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September 3, Hr 1  COVIDpocricy and Buffs vs Bears

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September 3, Hr 1 COVIDpocricy and Buffs vs Bears

"S. is mornings with kale and northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k. And let's see our outlandish dish outrageous news segment. We kicked yesterday off with one. This as in san francisco they're offering to pay the bad guys the ones that wanna shoot people three hundred dollars not to do just that will not to be outdone. The aspen cova cartel apparently suffering from yet another bout of cranial rectal disease as they denied admittedly outspoken. Conservative firebrand appoved nineteen test. I kid you not. You cannot make this stuff up six. Oh nine now. One of three one thirteen ten gay gay northern colorado's voice mornings with gail from the auto collision specialists studios hate so much for aspens concerns at least from a public health standpoint about public safety as the delta variant continues to spread or maybe in aspen. Those covered nineteen tests are reserved for those of a political stripe a very definitive political stripe. Those who tow the progressive political line. And now the all of the politically correct platitudes. Well the overarching message. There seems to be that when it comes to covert nineteen and getting covered nineteen tests than aspen conservatives. Will you go check rocks yup believe it or not conservative. Pundit candice owens said that the owner of a facility a cove nineteen testing facility and aspen reviews to give her a cove in nineteen tasks. Wait for it. Due to her political beliefs owens took to twitter wednesday night saying i was banned from taking cover test because of my politics now she linked to these redacted images of an email exchange with someone she identified as the owner of an aspen lab that performs several types of rapid kovic nineteen tests now for her part. Yeah she boasts that sheet very proud of the fact that she has not been vaccinated against corona virus but regularly takes cove nineteen tasks. Well is she said in an instagram post that she received the email from this aspen lab after her assistant booked attesting appointment now. Apparently owens cheese quite peripatetic. She travels all over the country all the time. Stirring things up stirring the political potus. Only candice owens can do and what she does is before she travels and when she arrives in her destination city she gets covered. Nineteen test all right now. We can argue about vaccines until the cows come home. Not the topic of this particular conversation. But she's being tested to make sure that she yourself isn't a public health risk so her assistant comes to her. And these are kansas owens words. Her face is drained. white her face. The assistant is absolutely in shock. And she's like you're not going to believe this. We just received an email from the covert facility that they are declining to give you a test because of who you are now owens said the facility must have looked her up online because she registered for the test not under cantu sahlins but under her married name. Apparently here's what the email went on to say from the aspen literati. We cannot support anyone who has proactively work to make this pandemic worse by spreading misinformation politicizing and discouraging the wearing of mass and actively dissuading people from lifesaving. Vaccinations said the email which appeared to be from someone named susanna lea. My team and myself susannah went on to say have worked overtime to exhaustion unpaid and underpaid. The past year and i will concede the point that i'm sure that they have and my heart goes out to them but denies someone a covert nineteen tasks because of their political beliefs is absolutely inconceivable and a preposterous. And then they wonder why so many of us as nineteen obviously at least an aspen continues to be weaponized politicized and the narrative relative to cover nineteen. Well it changes every time. The wind blows why so many of us are reluctant rather reticent on the fence when it comes to getting vaccine scene or buying into anything that comes out of our public. Health officials are government the world health organization. Please you look up an entity that has no credibility at all in the dictionary. There it is the world health organization caring water for the chinese government. Cdc not that much better but that all oh my gosh the heat is on an urging us all. You have to get the vaccine. You must get the vaccine. Well unfortunately if you look back at. The past election cycle as chaotic. Raucous as it was well. They have no one but themselves to blame. Those that are dow enjoying power and control. Because you you remember. It was then Candidate kamala harris who said Referencing president trump's warp speed operation. And say what you will about trump but it is thanks to president trump and no one can deny this that we even have the vaccines to begin with. But you're a member kamala harris saying well. I'll certainly get the vaccine. But not of trump tells me to and then they wonder why it is that well we look at all of these nanday guidelines these ever revolving doors of covert nineteen restrictions with a bit of skepticism. If not a jaded. I knew while back to susanna lee who denied kansas owen cove nineteen test. It would be unfair to them. Referencing a line from her. Email to kansas owens. Again my team and myself said susanna lea have worked overtime to exhaustion unpaid and underpaid the past year spending our own capital to ensure that our community remains protected. It would be unfair to them. And the sacrifices we have made all this year to serve you. Wait a minute. You just contradicted yourself beautifully. Susannah old how hot chrissy all right. Let's just focus in on these words spending our own capital to ensure that our community remains protected. It would be unfair to them to serve you. Now wait a minute. isn't it. Unfair to the community not to cirque and disowns by providing her with covert nineteen. The glaring hypocrisy emails suggested owens visit the only other local testing option. And i'm sure susannah got in touch with that facility which said it sends it samples to tag says tax. Says oh i see so if you are a conservative than you must have your testing results calculated in a more conservative state. Is that the message year. Yes sends it samples to texas and well also conveniently has inconsistent inconsistent result times meaning. Well you may or may not get the results. you're looking for relative to that. Cova nineteen test By the time you get to aspen. This is absolutely ludicrous. When you have in her own words this. Suzanne lee at this cove nineteen testing facility in aspen absolutely undermining any credibility whatsoever when it comes to apparently her concern for her own community. I don't care if you're imb libertarian. If you're a member of the green party if you're a democrat if you're a republican hey susannah guess what. Cove nineteen doesn't recognized political affiliation. It doesn't care and so if you are such a steward of public health then why aren't you continuing to protect public health. Well owens never one to mince. Words sent out a rather scathing scorched-earth response but she does have a sense of humor. She wrote truly. I'm never laughed harder nothing screams. This virus isn't political. Quite like googling the names of the people who booked tests with you and determining on a case by case basis whether or not you will let them comply with your community. Covert nineteen measures calling the email literally the biggest keep of virtual signal signalling trap. I've ever seen in my life. Owens added the last time. A white person refused a black person services. Because i don't like your thoughts and ideas. Guess what we were in the jim crow era. Now owens who admittedly just two weeks ago tweeted the vaccine will never never in all caps and our my arm and claimed there was quote something purely evil involved right now in terms of these vaccines her opinion and she's welcome to it said the email's author got it wrong insisting she has decided not to be vaccinated but hasn't urged anyone else not too and has tons close quote a family and friends who have been vaccinated. Owen said in a video that she posted instagram. Which by the way had been viewed More than one million times by yesterday morning. I'm a personal freedom. person she added. I still don't have the vaccine. And she has no intention of get susanna. It's just and she's talking specifically rather pointedly To this health care worker at this lab in aspen who refused because of her political bent to give her the covered. Nineteen so addressing susannah directly zuzana. Zana it's just not what i want to do. I will unfortunately find someone else to administer a cova test. You absolute free. I wasn't done yet on thursday. Owens tweeted if you don't want conservatives and is this really. What is at the crux of the matter. If you don't want conservatives to be able to test because of our viewpoints then stock mandating the test you imbeciles by the way crickets from aspen laboratories apparently this facility the denied candice owens Her cova nineteen tasked prior to arriving in aspen. Neither lee nor the staff at aspen laboratories responded to a request for comment. So if you don't think that this entire scenario has been thoroughly weaponized politicize. Perhaps this might change your viewpoint your thoughts this morning. Nine seven three five three thirteen ten dropped me attacks on our thirteen ten. Kfi a text. Line i mean this absolutely boggles my mind. I don't know about you. But i think it pretty much provide some clarification of something that we've suspected pretty much all along six twenty two now. Northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Hey fda this time. Check sponsored by the candlelight dinner playhouse in johnstown bringing you an amazing production of footloose. The musical taking center stage september tenth through november fourteen th for tickets and show information just jump online visit colorado candlelight dot com candlelight dinner playhouse in johnstown broadway in your backyard football toward from someone in the trenches catch. The ellison hubbert show mondays at one in northern colorado's voice one zero three point one and thirteen ten. Kfi airs bus mixing it up this evening at folsom field in boulder. Of course you can catch all the excitement right here on northern colorado's voice three one thirteen ten. Kf gay pregame kicking off at six four to be precise with kick off at seven o'clock of course So proud to welcome. In the voice of the unc bears jerry schimmel and aaron wrath will be doing all of the color commentary as well. But how do you think the bears are going to do tonight. Let's get into that. I'm all excited. How about you six thirty now. Northern colorado's voice one or three one. Thirteen ten kfi k. We are voice of the unc bears. Northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi bears out of excitement in the air as the bears and the buffs again mixing it up Seeping pat of boulder's folsom field. And of course you can catch all the action right here on northern colorado's voice one or three one thirteen ten f. k. A. pregame at six. Oh four this evening. Kick off at seven o'clock with the voice of the unc. Bears jerry shemmel. So do you think the bears can make a stand against the buffs. Might kilpatrick at the time this morning. Thank you for stepping up in ryan. Kelly's absence certainly appreciate you doing that. So are you excited for the game tonight. Let's just say that since. I'm producing your show. Yes and i'm producing that at six o'clock normally i'd say yes but no. It's a long day for you. Yes actually i believe i. I may have a reprieve in the middle of the day. Some of my normal work which i have been putting on the back burner. You've got some reinforcements coming in right. Yes yes i do okay. And that's a good thing you see. Do you think the bears have a fighting chance. Well i i like to thank the thank you for that question. It is very good question. You know my fellow americans. This is just a great time to talk about freedom. I and god bless america and this upcoming holiday. Don't wear white. we've got a lot of. That's right a lot of college football this week. And i'm very proud to be a part of The unc bears official radio station. I northern colorado's voice one or three one thirteen ten k. J. my gosh You should throw your proverbial hats into the political ring. Sounding suspiciously like a politician. Although that's not necessarily through. I haven't promised to pay off the national debt and then added three trillion dollars to it right three point five joe mansion west virginia senator. Joe manchin actually Remains true to his word. I mean he's folded before. But yes and you are not a promising a chicken in every pot and you're not kissing babies on the head and then stealing their candy more like kissing them on the head and then putting them across the road. I basically what they're doing is promising. Oh well you know. Yeah we're going to give you stuff but then you know once it's time to vote. They're like here's my middle finger. That's why i'm giving you but you know you make a very good point because with all of the spend a palooza going on these days. It's the babies are going to be paying for it not us. I mean we'll be dust who else is gonna pay for it. The players and coaches in the game tonight go bring her pay for it with their tax dollars. That's right that's right. Well i pulled this piece out of the denver post. It was a piece by sean keillor. I think he he sums it up. Pretty darn well. Saying ed mccracken mccaffrey's college coaching debut. My gosh it's been a long time coming at unc. Well it could be beautiful. It could be a disaster but one thing for sure it. Sure as heck won't be boring. Healer goes on to say ed mccaffrey. Honeymoon and counting has already lasted. Longer than three of elizabeth taylor's marriage the former bronco's wide out and valor christian boss said with a grin when he was asked about his long awaited and we're talking seriously long awaited debut as the football coach of the bear said. A lot of my teammates went to see you so i have to hear from them leading up to the game. Hopefully i don't hear from them. After the game he went on to say bots in with the glass half full. I'm not you know. I'm not drawing any conclusions here. I think it'd be great. I would love to see the unc. Bears just roll over the buffs. But mccaffrey exuding confidence saying that. Our team as a whole expects to win this football game courts talking about this evening's bears twenty one opener against the cu buffs. Now mccaffrey by the way has lost a tilt officially since the twenty nine thousand nine hundred class five quarterfinals against columbine. That was the last game of his second season valor. Only his second setback in twenty-six contest. That was just a few weeks after that. In early december of twenty nine thousand. Nine hundred eddie mack. Pretty much shocked the world by jumping to greeley to take the northern colorado head coaching gig. And we're so glad he did. Meanwhile a virus one that you're pretty familiar with by this point in time dubbed cova nineteen was starting to get a bit frisky and well. You know the rest of that particular story already. Mccaffrey said of his bears. Honestly we're not through the woods yet. Of course the bears took a rona timeouts. In twenty twenty. He went on to say. I don't know how it's gonna play out the season with corona virus. I do know that the players are suiting. That are suiting up in practicing. The ones that will play are just really excited to play football once again. And we're really excited to watch them now. The buffs once again who are hosting mccaffrey's bears this evening and the season opener out for both schools. Well they turned us all last. Fall and fun throwback sort of way stephen das- rams only playing four times in two thousand eight hundred eighty to cap off what could be well referred to as the strangest five months in recent program history and yet among the college football narratives cranking up along the front range this fall none are more fascinating potentially than the fate of the u. n. c. mayors says keillor in the post. This could be spectacular. Then again it could be a disaster. It could be a stroke of inspiration or complete insanity. Think about this. The coach is a mccaffrey. The offensive coordinator is a mccaffrey. That's max at sun. The starting quarterback is expected to be a mccaffrey dylan. Another of ed's kids a michigan transfer now in early august twenty nine thousand nine hundred future head coach and defensive coordinator. Were tutoring high school kids at the same time. The future offensive coordinator was grinding at the san francisco. Forty niners training camp as a wide receiver coach. Mccaffrey said max was blessed. Play for several different. Nfl teams that. He's got a lot good experiences with some great coaches and great teammates. He brings a level of experience that we wouldn't otherwise have to our coaching staff. Oh he's also twenty seven and pushing big boy buttons for the first time for the mccaffrey's for unc. It's one massive shared leap of faith. I share that leap faith. How about you. The experts think they're all destined to land on their collective backsides. Big sky coaches pegged the bears to finish thirteen out of a thirteen league. Squads pretty much in the basement. Right media picked him twelfth of the twenty three signees. Mccaffrey added during the twenty twenty. Twenty one recruiting cycle eight were transfers. The bears preseason roster features eighteen guys who used to play at at bs schools and even the staff is somewhat influx. Unc this past spring parted ways with veteran offensive coordinator day baldwin and recruiting coordinator. Lau moi vo don't think i'm saying his name correctly my apologies before they even coached in a regular season contest You had lyle eventually. Joining san jose state as a defensive analysts. Mccaffrey rather pragmatic about the turnover. Yeah well he sat. I'm excited that. I already have coaching tree of coaches. That went on and got promotions. At other schools. We had a coach. The took a head coaching job. We had another the gun offense line job at a bigger school and he gets paid a whole lot more cash and i can't them. They're taking care of their families taking advantage of opportunities every year. Coaching staffs change. Well he's absolutely correct on that point. I mean hardly any stay the same he said whether you play games or not and well no honeymoon lasts forever opine keeler on paper. See you should should being the operative word. They're able to pick the score then again. Remember montana state in two thousand six. Dan hawkins debut to forget buffs. Qb james cox completed. Just eight passes on twenty two attempts. See you lost. Nine thousand nine hundred ten to the fcs. Bob cats a day that would portend a two and ten campaign concludes Giller the buffs are better. But how much better remains to be seen for c. you. Unc is more of a mental tests than a physical one. Now mccaffrey said a lot of our guys referring to his bears. Roster lot of our guys grew up in colorado didn't receive offers from c. you. They know that they're going against some of the kids. They played against in high school and some of their teams beat the other players teams in high school. But this isn't high school anymore. Dorothy it's college. The buffs are epi s. And we're at c. s. Buddy said we have some really really talented players on our team that expect to perform well on this stage and our team as a whole expects to win this football game reiterates keillor genius or insanity football just like love. It's kind of a funny business and some marriages are so crazy. Well they just might work. Go bears once again. You can catch all the excitement right here on northern colorado's voice one zero three one thirteen ten. Kfi gay bears buff Bob said folsom field pre game at six. O four kickoff ion seven o'clock again right here. Northern colorado's voice one of three one thirteen ten kfi and welcoming in the voice of the unc bears the new voice of the unc. Bears jerry and shemmel six fifty now. Thirteen ten kfi k. This is kevin car with faculties is at the movies. And you're listening to mornings with gail on northern colorado's voice one. Oh three point one and thirteen ten kfi k. Six fifty three now on your friday morning hoping you're looking forward to a nice long weekend ahead seems as though once we get through this Monsoonal system and again You know raising the specter of additional flooding particularly in those burn scar areas as a result of last. Summer's fires. something. We need to be aware and concerned about. Should be pretty nice weekend and hope you get a chance to get out get away from it all and just put all the politics in the rear view for at least the weekend following along for you so we can get all caught up on tuesday morning but Yeah get out and enjoy yourself and you know find your happy space and do something that makes you feel good kind of listening to the c. You bob sanday. Unc bears game this evening. Right here on northern colorado's voice one or three one thirteen ten k pre-game at six o four kickoff at seven o'clock. I know i'm you know. Call me pollyannaish. But i have hope for the little team that could. I think you've got ed. Mccaffrey at the top. Eddie mack and mike. And i were just talking over the break and it's interesting because mike you brought up some really really good points to which i countered but you have to wonder i mean certainly if anybody knows the game like the back of his hand it's ed mccaffrey. But your question was. Will that knowledge be able to translate into coaching kids at this level. And i think you brought up a very good point. Well i just. I think they've they've lost coach. I don't think. Ed mccaffrey is the bad coach. I i'm just hoping that they have a really really good season. I i want them to go out and surprise some people not just because i think it's funny when a lot of experts are wrong and i like the last two i i it would be great. I think it's really dumb for people to say. Oh they're going to be at the in the basement. I i don't see that they have some athletes. They've had the time to prepare. They've got some serious talent. Yeah i just. I just you know i don't know i. I have my own doubts. I just think people have way too many doubts like i. I think people have looked at the old bears and they see all the bad decisions of the past and they out another bad decision. Let's just assume yeah and you know what happens if we assume right. Of course you do and this is the new bears under new leadership. Said you think. Oh i hate to use this word. Do you think it's going to be a blow out. Well gilly appreciate the. I'm seeing in america. And that's all he has to say about that. Six fifty seven now. northern colorado's voice when three one thirteen ten kfi k. northern colorado's voice and the leader and prep. Sports is one zero three point one and thirteen tain. Kf six fifty nine northern colorado's voice. One three one thirteen ten. Kfi a mornings with gail from the auto collision specialists studios roof. They're very busy. Friday got a lot going on this morning. it's kind of interesting piece by sherry pipe in colorado page to just jump online to complete colorado dot com and click on that page to link Colorado teachers signing a pledge to teach critical race theory even if it is banned in the classroom. Cherry pie joins us at seven. Oh five kfi greeley closing in on seven o'clock.

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The Dude With The Crackhead Face

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14:32 min | Last month

The Dude With The Crackhead Face

"Welcome to another episode of more content. Talk that's the only show that cuts through the glamour glitz and all the bullshit to bring you. The truth is news that we can find if if you can take the wifi and You know injected intravenously. Perhaps would you do it is. That was your only option. Would you do that would you do. Would you get chipped. Melissa which you get checked. Think so why. I'm just curious that sounded so acute. Why not the champ anyway. such injected. Yeah i know but you still got your vaccine. Didn't you see all you punk bitches. Who are afraid to get that vaccine. I swear to god if she can do it you can do it. Get out there right now. I'm i'm gonna come to your house anyway Now will make them really paranoid. That's what says satisfy that to be that. Because i've ever be paranoid like these folks watching the helicopter. That's like it's spiracy. Here's you're so angry all the time this guy there was this guy that i'll never forget it. It was the night kovin head. Really i did. It was like march sixteenth. I got home late from performing. They said something about well. you know. we'll see what happens or whatever you know like they were trying to remain optimistic. They already knew. We were gonna reopen fuckers. We will we'll jet. I mind trick. Gotcha you're fired anyway. You gotta love it. You gotta love the cold this there but yeah. I'm sitting in the uber which you already know. It's going to be bad because it's an uber. And something about uber. Just like there's something about amazon bad just follows it everywhere you know. This is something about these tech. Companies and uber is tech company. But it doesn't get thought of in that light. A lot of people say this is transportation. This is a computer driving you around. Basically you know with a guy like looking at the phone. That's all it really. You know like. I mean that's as close to computerize driving his people get for a while but it's geo location the geo location geo location. You could call something else that you know talking about chiel. Location g g o. Face oh and if you don't oh no you. oh anyway. So yeah. I mean. I'm sitting in the back of the hoover and this this conspiracy there to conspiracy theorist in front of me but i don't know he's a conspiracy theorist so you because anyone can be a conspiracy theorist there's no look to these guys. It's not like it's like schizophrenia. Where you're like. Oh should run away. And i'm not talking about like medicated schizophrenia. Obviously but you know the people you see downtown in big cities and every every big city knows what i'm talking about. People leave their poor relatives out there to rod. They don't give a shit out there walking around talking to themselves but And you just suppose it's weird. You're supposed to look away. People don't look at them. Don't make eye contact. Don't look at them. You pretend they're not there go away. It's like they're not gonna go away. I don't but yeah you. It's this black guy right. So i'm thinking okay. My chances are pretty good that this is not a conspiracy here because it's not that popular in the black community is really not most black. People like christians who believe in evolution and who think that christianity is supposed to be like anti-racist and things like that that's what black peop- most black i'd say probably like eighty eighty five percent of black people. Think that way. Who i've met in my life and it's not a bad. It's not a bad personality trait at all like it's actually quite endearing. It's not a harsh brand of religion. And that's always nice. It's always refreshing. But then there's other subset of black people and this is what i call the crazy ass. Candice owens Subset of black people there on crack. They're literally and sometimes actually on crack like not figuratively at all You know larry elder to crack. He has to be a crack head. I mean there's no way that you could be black in america and think that you're crackhead ass to become governor of the most liberal state in the union while at the same time you're out of here talking about oh you got antibac- sers on your radio show what what's and he didn't. He didn't say anything he didn't say. Oh by the way. This is just his opinion. He didn't ask him any tough questions. Let this motherfucker cameron about how vaccines don't work. Live live live onto lions radio broadcasts. He has popular radio broadcast. You have any idea. How many idiots he's influencing right now that's nuts in this guy wants to be. The governor has to be on crack. The there has to be crack involved somewhere. I don't know if it came From a crack dealer or from a crackhead but this crack this crack involved okay. That's what i'm saying that and so this we're just sitting in the uber and whatever we're getting to our location and all of sudden you know you ever give this bad feeling about people you know you get a particular look for. I look at this guy. And he's got this very concerned look on his face. And i'm like and he's and he's kind of like panting and i'm like is this. Is this full trip balls. That's literally what i thought in my head. I was like it's my driver on acid or some shit or like you know what's going on. No that's not what it was. This motherfucker was a conspiracy theories and so the night that shit shut down. He was freaking out. He was like. Hey man you know you know i i mean i'm just i'm just letting you know i'm letting you know that this whole thing trump does that he kind of sound. He sounded like Chris rock but like on crack this this this. This is not the real thing. This is not the real thing. There's other things going on behind behind closed doors. All right this is not the thing and he. I mean he was basically repeating themselves. He's of muttering hammering on and on and on and he was like sweaty is like like he was so terrible sitting there like the fuck is wrong with you. You know what i mean like. What's your black. Knock it off not get off. Stop acting like an idiot you to black for that. Don't act like you don't do that. It's so stupid you're not even getting paid to do it and you're doing it. I understand busta rhymes. You know acting like an idiot because he's probably getting paid to do it. What the fuck is this idiot. This guy is getting paid. It works through for fuck sake. He doesn't need any endorsement deals going on anyway He's like freaking out. He freaked out on me because he thought it was Like the end of the world or some shit all because of i don't know the pandemic. yeah this this guy was probably involved in cunanan. He was probably A hardcore conspiracy theorists and who knows he may have even been one of the people who went to the riot now. I have no way of knowing that and Therefore i can't inform police about it because i would just blowing smoke up their ass but i'll tell you this it's a possibility These people are just kind of amongst you. These people who tend to over exaggerate circumstances do not be one of these people Do not validate and recognize their Primal urges because they're too they don't have a robust enough Rationale our capability for Rational thought that will actually lead to good outcomes They have capability for rational thought. That leads bad outcomes And you know this kind of repetition of repeating the same mistake in different different ways Which at least you know Looks good on television. it's funny but That's about it. it's not useful and so don't allow if one of these crises do do occur to you. Don't allow it to make you panic to the point of where it becomes worse and where you know you become so bored that you you. I don't know Become like jack. Nicholson in the shining. And you know like never a see. That face always love pretty amusing. Some horror movies are funny like it's not even like that scene isn't scary hilarious. Because the kid is. I don't know kids screaming. Wow wow which is funny anyway. Don't be like those people. Were just like stay. The people standing there screaming waiting die. Like do something proactive. And like and don't horrid. That's not gonna do anything either. Don't like download all the porn on the internet. And like you know. Like i mean it's unnecessary like don't do it not all of it anyway. But Yeah i mean apart from that like it's something to be concerned about But as always how concerned you are about it and to what extent you should be concerned about it or not really clear because Who knows if it will happen or not. But it's also a reason to perhaps Push for the larger infrastructure bill to pass. There's nothing in the little one that's going to benefit you in any way. But if you pass the three point five trillion won then you'll actually have things like this getting addressed and potentially fixed so it's up to you as always the people But you know the the slimmer. Your expectations are this limited. Your result is gonna be so to say that and leave it at that. The everything had for we signed off all right. everyone While you can always follow us on twitter more underscore content p. s you can also Check us out on instagram to talk and youtube at all. Were all one word All lower case more content talk and That's about it. You support us on anchor. If you want you can also Find us on. You know out there man in the ether. Okay out there man out there man all right. Everyone have a phenomenal day evening afternoon. Fiestas downtime chill time lunchtime party. Time naptime whatever. It may be an remember when life gets you down can laugh at something else. Farewell folks yes.

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Hearing on White Nationalism Gives Platform to Extreme Views

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30:44 min | 2 years ago

Hearing on White Nationalism Gives Platform to Extreme Views

"The. April ten twenty nine thousand nine hundred. And this is the takeaway with me Tanzi Vega. A house hearing on the rise of white nationalism. Turns into a debate over whether the problem even exists. We break down the hearing and how both parties are approaching white supremacy. Also on the show a Bill in Georgia targets journalists. We'll talk about it. We have had in journalism a code of ethics since nineteen twenty six. It's a terrific code of ethics, and I don't know a single journalist in Georgia or beyond who doesn't try to follow the tenets of that code of ethics at New York. Islanders broadcast host Shannon, HOGAN, talks about the barriers women face in pro hockey commentary when I walk into room, I kind of have to prove that I do know hockey a little more than maybe a man walking in a room. Let's get started. White nationalism. It's a live in the United States, but not everyone agrees white nationalism and its proliferation. Online have real consequences. There isn't a single adult today that in good conscience would make the argument that America's they more white nationalist society than it was when my grandfather was growing up hate crimes increased for the third consecutive year. FBI reports white supremacy racism Nash white nationalism words that once held real meaning have now become nothing more than election strategies, Berrigan's have died because as language changes. That's important for us to be able to understand dog with all the myth of things like the southern switch and the southern strategy, which never happened counties hosted a twenty sixteen Trump rally so a two hundred and twenty six percent increase in hate crimes. They actually concerned about white nationalism. It'd be holding hearings on teeth off do not call this series of that summit promote the very messages we need to come back. The House Judiciary committee held a hearing on Tuesday that was supposed to. Tackle the rise of hate crimes, and the spreading of white supremacy and hate speech on platforms like Facebook and YouTube. It was the Democrats chance to shine a light on a very real problem. According to the F B I reported hate crimes surge nearly twenty percent in two thousand seventeen and because police departments don't have to send this data to the federal government. The human rights campaign says that that number is likely and undercount, but after more than four hours of questioning and testimony no solutions emerged instead, it became clear, just how partisan various you of hate has become and we turn now to to people who can help us parse through some of what was said, and what solutions could be on the horizon. Heidi by Rick is the director of the southern poverty law center's intelligence project and Andy Campbell is a senior reporter at huffpost covering extremism. Welcome to you both. Thank you so much for having us. Yes. Thanks for having me Heidi. Let's start with you this hearing. I mean, I know people are saying this is happening in two thousand nineteen. Yes. It's twenty nineteen. Why are we discussing this? Now, Heidi remind us. Well, sadly, even though it's twenty nineteen. We are now at a point where white nationalism has sort of spread like wildfire through the web, and frankly across the western world. And it's a movement that is growing both. If you count the number of hate groups, if you look at the kind of material you find online, and of course, it's creating mass violence like the horror that we saw in Christ's church New Zealand few weeks ago. So it's a pretty serious topic. This was supposed to be congress sitting across the table from a panel of experts on hate and white nationalism, which is super exciting. Because finally, this is a fountain of knowledge for congress to draw from you also had to executives from Facebook and Google sitting there platforms where white supremacy has run rampant. And so we have all of these people in the same room ready to take questions and talk to each other about this huge problem. Then they introduce far-right conservative Candice Owens who Republicans invited Canas Owens became famous for her appearances on info wars, which is a conspiracy theory show by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, she kind of skyrocketed after Trump tweeted her last year, she was at CPAC earlier this year, and she's a regular on Fox News. But she's also consistently the loudest person in the room. And I think that's a good guess as to why she was invited here because she completely derailed the entire day. She's also a black American who the GOP brought to talk about something very specific here. Tell us a little bit about how that went down. She says that she was the victim of a hate crime herself. But really what the conversation turned to was she immediately said that white supremacy wasn't a big deal. She said that hate crimes or not on the rise that that was fake. She immediately with her opening statements said that this entire meeting was a farce white supremacy, racism Nash white nationalism words that once held real meaning have now become nothing more than election strategies, every four years. The black community is offered handouts and fear handouts and fear. I wanna lay out a couple of things here Charlottesville. Pittsburgh black lives matter. I mean, we can go on and on with real data. And real incidences that show that white supremacy and nationalism are on the rise. Heidi your response to what Owens's comments were. Well, I'm in her comments or dodge, just wrong. They're outrageous. And they're not tempt to act as though a very very serious problem doesn't exist. I mean, it's really unfortunate. The Republicans would bring someone like her to talk about, you know, a an ideology a way of thinking that has led to several mass shooting incidents, and I might add that Candice. Oh and was also listed as an inspiration in. In the manifesto of the New Zealand shooter. So that makes it even more of a mockery. I mean, look she's just flat out wrong, and she's trying to minimize something. That's really serious needs to be dealt with them serious manner. Andy, there was also someone else there. Mohammed Abu Salah and his children were killed in a hate crime. Tell us about Dr Abu Salah who brought him. And what's his story of the the Democrats? I believe invited him but his two daughters and son in law were killed in a racist shooting at UNC Chapel Hill very attend two thousand fifteen those a day on laws changed forever. When my two daughters in my son-in-law DEA where shot to death execution style. We arrived at the scene Ila Tabin, flashing lights frozen. Londono veins. We waited although six hours before police officers confirmed the the was on what all. A little bit shot to death. Or we never heard in the media that the murder hated them troubled began when this man observed my two daughters appearing on the scene adorned with their jobs, this condescending man, told her he hated how she looked dressed, and he has been inactive est ever since. And so these these are the types of of stories that that we wanted to hear and and what we wanted congress to here so to have Candice Owens sitting at the same table as him saying that what he experienced isn't real. It was it was devastating. And and then, you know, Republican congressman Representative Ken buck of Colorado jokes with Candace at one point saying that she triggers the libs and said, you should come shoot guns in Colorado with me some time to have that exchange happen when Mr. Salah was sitting a few chairs away. I mean, it is. It's insensitive and it's wrong. They were also lots of comments during the testimony during the hearing in YouTube who that was live streaming the hearing Heidi tell us a little bit about YouTube response, and what they felt that they had to do and the nature of those comments. Yeah. Will the YouTube live stream of the hearing was just filled with racist anti semitic sort of the ugliest sentiments, you can imagine in YouTube eventually had to cut that off because it was so out of control. And if anything demonstrates how serious this problem is in the United States and around the world that was the fact that that kind of vitriol could be thrown so quickly. At youtube. And frankly, it also shows the role that technology plays in spreading these beliefs. I mean, this is the main way that white supremacist get their ideas out there. They don't have any other platforms other than the web to say what they have to say. And it's unfortunate that that dimension was also balked by. At least one of the Republican congressman there, Heidi I want to pick up on what you just said about technology Alexandria Walden. Who's Google's public policy council responded yesterday to a question about how Google is addressing white nationalist? And let's take a listen internally. We have an Intel desk that looks to see and track trends of what we're seeing on our platform. But also, we engage with external experts. So that we can understand what others are seeing Heidi. Is that enough? It's not enough. I mean, frankly, the mainstream platforms like YouTube like Facebook Twitter did not really wake up to this problem or take it seriously enough until after the. Horrible events in Charlottesville in August of twenty seventeen. And so they're really behind the eight ball in terms of getting this kind of material off of their sites. I'm assuming that they will get better at this in the future. But it's been kind of a mess for the last couple of years, Andy, I wanna go a little further here because there's a lot of attention on Google and Facebook and YouTube, and whether these companies are doing enough to prevent this. These messages from being spread did the issue of where this is even coming from come up at all in this hearing in other words, you know, we're talking about preventing it, but that feels like a game of whack-a-mole to be honest with you what about the root causes in this country that are leading to this increase in white nationalism. Was that even addressed in this hearing, I would say that they didn't have much more time with the Facebook and Google exact to do anything more than let them read off of a press release. However, Facebook has shown the inability to to find and deal with the root cause here. After the New Zealand shooting Facebook came out with new expanded rules saying extremism, white nationalism. White supremacy are not allowed on our platform anymore. They're just done a week later after they came out with these rules. I gave them an easy test a softball saying here is a prominent white nationalist whose name is faith Goldie. She's one of the most prominent white nationalist in North America. She has videos on here saying that Jews and black people are invaders who should pay white Europeans to live in their countries. They responded by saying despite their new rules that this wasn't white nationalist at all and is fine on our platform. There was outcry and they finally deleted faith, goalies, Facebook, one of the representatives at this hearing read some of that story and offered it to the Facebook exotic who just responded and said, you know, this is a game of wacko mobile. Take him down when we see him. It's obvious that they don't have the ability. To find things before we out them as the media Heidi. What about the the root causes here? I'd love to hear your your thoughts on this. Also, there's one thing to control the messages that are coming out. But what does this tell us about the state of the United States today in terms of? I mean, we've never had an easy history. When it comes to race, we even struggle to call things racist when they clearly are. But this this rise in white nationalism. I think is pointing to a deeper issue in our society. Yeah. Well, there is there is a segment of the American society in this is rooted in our history that is not very happy with the changing demographics that we're facing. You could actually say this about the entire western world. Where immigration is changing the demographic makeup of countries. And they're reacting in very ugly way to those changes. And that's one of the things that's been driving the number of hate groups up. But there are other factors that fuel that negative behavior. This the amount of sort of sewage on on. Line the recruiting that goes on there and to hate groups, and frankly, the actions of prominent political figures who played to those fears Donald Trump is played to anti-immigrant sentiment. Anti-muslim sentiment, and that's true of other politicians in the United States and far right populists abroad. And those people when they do that they sanctioned those beliefs which makes people feel more comfortable sort of putting out extremist ideas being racist being anti semitic. So we have a dynamic where the online worlds fuelling this changing demographics are making some people insecure and politicians of the highest levels are also sanctioning, those kinds of thoughts and ideas, and this is all turned into a very combustible mix that results in things like what happened at the Pittsburgh synagogue or at the mosques in Christ Church. Heidi by rake of the southern poverty Law Center and Andy Campbell of huffpost have been with us. Thanks to you. Both so good to be here. Thank you. All right, everybody. We're heading down to Georgia for this next. One six Republican lawmakers in Georgia are sponsoring a Bill to create a state ethics board to oversee journalist under the Bill. Journalists would have to turn over interview tapes and notes at the board's request, and if they refuse journalists would face fines of one hundred dollars a day and possible lawsuits Representative Andrew Welsh who introduced the Bill said he had a problem with certain kinds of media coverage news stories, which tell only part of the story in which cloak opinions and eroneous conclusions as factual even if constructed on false premises. Georgia speaker of the house, David Ralston put it a little differently is very difficult to discern or the public as to what is an editorial commentary on something. And what is the facts? Smith artifice based on blending. The two seems to be what has become more prevalent in the media than a separate analysis of facts versus commentary journalists and press associations across the state and the country have balked at. The proposal saying it would violate the first amendment and hamper the presses ability to scrutinize Georgia's elected officials Stephen Fowler is a political reporter for Georgia public broadcasting and he joins us now. And he wrote about the Bill for the Columbia journalism review. Steven, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me before we even begin. I mean you and I are both journalists this sent a chill down my spine. I think a lot of our listeners may not quite understand. Why this is so concerning as journalists can you help us understand? Well, when the Bill was I read on the house floor those of us in the house press gallery, kind of laughed at it. When we heard it in passing because it was the last day of the session, and it was busy. But then we got our hands on the text of the Bill, and that's. Win the concern kind of happened. What this Bill does is regulating. How we as journalists? Do our job in a way that is not previously done before. And is not something that is allowed under the constitution under the first amendment. And it would put a lot of restrictions and restraints on the freedom of the press and on the potential for the press to report on things or to be able to report on things freely and independently, and that's what a lot of the concerns. I've heard from my colleagues here in Georgia. Now, what prompted this legislation is it was this legislators who were peaked about coverage about something. Well, the Republican lawmaker who filed this isn't talking much now he actually said he was resigning from his seat after the end of the session. But we think it has something to do with a TV reporter asking him a question about another Bill that he filed, but we're really unclear about what specifically led to this Bill. Will being dropped. The Bill sponsor did say that it also maybe had something to do with some national news media instead of local what are the chances of this Bill moving forward. I mean how much support does it have? Because if that's the case, it sounds like this is a personal dispute with the media as we know that's not that's not a new thing at least for the past couple of years. But does this have broader institutional support? Well, Republican Andy Welsh from McDonnell. The bill's sponsor put it on the last day of the session. So it can't be discussed until the next session begins in January. And he also said he's resigning from a seat. We've seen reaction from all parts of the ideological spectrum here in Georgia journalist, non journalist politicians say this Bill does not seem a good idea doesn't seem like it would jive with the first amendment. So the chances of this actually moving I would say are slim to none. But it's the message that it sends that may resonate a little bit longer. Stephen. We know my former employer CNN has. Their headquarters in Atlanta. Did you get a sense that this might be aimed at them? We sort of talked about the national media outlets that might be the target of this. Well, you know, Representative Welch in an interview with reporters after he filed a Bill later in the hallway said that part of this was a desire to kind of call out, the national media outlets. He mentioned newspapers and cable TV shows and other things that he says don't clearly label, what is fact based reporting versus what's an opinion on an issue. And they kind of blur the lines between the two so CNN being headquartered in Atlanta, perhaps he's talking about CNN or other cable outlets. But there is this level of the national media being conflicted with what we do at the local state house or the state level or regional papers and radio and things like that that I think these lawmakers and members of the public tend to conflict what? What they see with the New York Times. And what they see with CNN that they may or may not like with what the, you know, local state government reporter does covering things in and out for the local community. And one of the things that comes up often when we talk about the media is exactly what you said sort of parsing that apart and making sure that there's more media literacy, we spoke to Janice Hume as journalism professor who teaches a class called credibility, the news media and public trust. And she told us that in order to win back some of this trust that apparently the public has lost in the media that we journalists need to do a better job of showing our work. Let's take a listen to what she had to say. I would like to see sidebars in the digital products or in the print products. Were we explain why you know, why did we use anonymous source? Why did we make this particular choice in terms of a visual to us with the story? I think it could be done with the articles. And I also think we could do a better. Job of just going out there and talking to the public and explaining to them why we do what we do in. Why what we do is critically important. Stephen were both reporters, I understand the need to clearly show our listeners or our audiences. What's opinion versus what's not right? And I think a lot of us already do that. But this idea of explaining to that extent the extent that professor Hume is talking about what's your thought on that? I am wholeheartedly a fan of showing your work as a journalist of media literacy of media ethics and explaining these things because I think a it's almost as important as the actual story being told for this Columbia journalism review piece. There's no sidebar saying how I got this story, but you can see in an interview with this person in an interview with this reporter in an interview with this. So it's not making up quotes out of thin air and things like that. There are certain newspapers around the country that are putting these side bars of how we. Got this story how we decided to report this story. And I think one of the things that I like doing is engaging with people on social media and kind of showing my work of how I report on things are where I got things from or what I'm doing on social media. So that people can see the pictures and the video and the conversations that I'm having, and if there's a voice that I missing, you know, somebody will say you haven't talked to this person. And I think, you know, opening up the doors of journalism will only help what we do and help the public's understanding of what we do of, you know, maybe not sharing the entire thought process of giving everyone an open, Google, doc of your script. But I, you know, showing the work of what we do. I think is so important because it builds that trust, and it shows that we're not making things up, and these are real people doing jobs talking to real people about these issues and also should be noted that we can't make things up like you said we have codes of ethics and legal. Constitutional duties here as journalists so we have to make sure that we abide by those Stephen Fowler is a political reporter for Georgia public broadcasting Steven thanks for joining us. Thank you. Hey, everyone. It's Tanzania Vega. And we're back with the takeaway the NHL playoffs start this week. And if you're not watching hockey, well, this is a pretty good time to jump in on the action here New York the islanders facing off against the Pittsburgh Penguins. In a first round matchup that didn't seem likely at the beginning of the season. I think the islanders. I don't think a lot of people pick them as a team that would make the playoffs. Let alone one that would make a run at the top spot in the division. So the fact that the islanders are in the playoffs. If you told people that in October, they would have been surprised, but the fans really are expecting a lot from them and looking forward to them having a really good first round against the Pittsburgh Penguins. That Shannon HOGAN the broadcast host for the islanders on the MSG network right now he's playing like an all star. And speaking of the all star game, which is coming up in a couple of days map bars. All going of the Representative for the New York Islanders his first time with an all-star experience. It was interesting because all the. The team on the ice are turning heads for their unexpected winning record this year. They've also attracted notice for their efforts to include more women in broadcast roles that have traditionally been held down by men this season. Shannon was joined in the broadcast booth by two former pro hockey players AJ Melesio and Jennifer Botterill, I spoke with Shannon about what it was like being paired with a team of all women analysts and also just some hockey talk. She's a busy woman. So we got her on FaceTime. It feels great. I mean when when the conversation came up that we might have one female analyst, let alone two I was thrilled. I also was very familiar with what Jennifer an H A would be able to bring AJ molest go was part of the first US women's team to compete in the Olympics in Nagano. They won the gold medal and then Jennifer box role and AJ were teammates at Harvard. They won the NC double A tournament. And Jennifer went on to compete for Team Canada for many many years and has. Three gold medals for Team Canada as well. So these aren't just women who know the sport they've played the sport and the right personalities and for me as a woman, you don't see a ton of female analysts. It was interesting that there are times when I've been as journalists myself, I've been on panels talking about issues that have nothing to do with women, for example, things like, you know, politics, or what have you, and you notice when you're at a table with all other women journalists there's still it's still sort of a surprise what's the reception been like for you all from the fans and viewers. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that about being on a panel. I will never forget my first season covering the islanders. They have like the broadcast meetings here, they usually be either New York or Toronto in that year. They happen to meet in New York, and it's not just the host and analyst, but it's also people behind the scenes and they had a reception after it. I remember walking in this very fancy restaurant in New York City and looking around and realizing there were probably one hundred fifty to two hundred. People there and there were four women, and I just remember thinking. Wow. I mean, I knew that we were kind of a rarity. But I wasn't thinking this many. And there there are more reporters and hosts around the league, but for the analyst role that is something that has been new, and I think just being a part of that has been exciting. And I think the basic thing with islanders fans, they're smart passionate fans. And if you know your hockey, they want to hear from you. I mean, it's been a wonderful exciting season for them as well. And they feel very welcomed by the islanders fans. And we know the tide is certainly changing at least when it comes to having more representation of like, you said women in traditionally male-dominated spaces people of color and traditionally white spaces and on and on. But there are still some issues. I think in in being some of the first are there challenges that you still have to deal with in working and operating in such a traditionally male. Oil industry, and male sport while for most of my professional career. I've been in sports in it's not just hockey. I've covered baseball basketball. But within the league now that I've personally been around for several years. I feel like that respect is earned and then given and the players especially that I've had the pleasure of dealing with have always treated me with respect. You'll see your social media. You know, why she talking about this? Or why do we have three women? You do see a little bit of that. But I think the vast majority just one great content. The other important thing Tanzania is that women have to help other women. I mean, we have to be each other's champion. Just because there's one woman on a broadcast doesn't mean there can't be another. And I think sometimes when you look around at the sports space, you'll see a panel or you'll see, you know, teams coverage they might just have one female host. And what I loved that MSG is done is. I don't have to be the token. Female, you know, we have two other smart women that know what they're talking about. And the three of us put together a strong show the one in done scenario, which often plays out with your the only one or one of few. And it's like, okay. Well, we have a woman check you have a person of color check. And then I think what happens is that you end up losing the the emphasis on your expertise. Right. The reason why you're there is because you're a hockey expert, right? Not not just because we're lady journals. Right. So I think that that's a really important point about supporting women and supporting each other in this in this space, what kind of opportunities are you seeing opening up for women in professional sports. Whether it be behind the scenes or front of the camera like you are there are more and more roles for quote, unquote, sideline or rinkside reporters. Maybe ten years ago, if you tuned in, and you watch to broadcast you were like all right will maybe I can be the person that just ask questions during intermission reading. I could be a sideline reporter and. I think over the last ten to fifteen years you've seen more and more women in a quote unquote studio role or in a hosting role on the analyst's role, which Jennifer an AJ have stepped into for us. I think other networks are taking notice that it's been successful. And I think we're going to continue to see that as the NHL is has a great initiative right now for gender equality and a push for if you can play you can play in encouraging young women to to play the sport. And it's interesting hearing from AJ and Jennifer their experience growing up playing hockey is very different than what their daughters are going to experience. We've even just this year. The number of parents that have come up and said daughter loves you guys. It's so important that they see women. They know that one day they wanted that job deck that could be there's and also I mean, you're also about to become a mom, so congratulations to you on that in this career. You're on the road. Lot your sort of dealing with this the demands of a production schedule. How are you feeling? And are you feeling supported by the league during this process? I've been very supported from the gecko by embassy networks, I think is a woman in any professional capacity. There's always this like you said what if what if you know, they're not going to really be excited about it. Everybody was so excited. My, you know, the crew that I get to work with day in and day out on all of our games have been so helpful. I have been also very fortunate that I have other working moms women that are working in sports around the league and other leagues that are trying to do the balance and they've been very candid about it. And I think for me hearing what they're doing in their emotions has been helpful that I'm not going in blindfolded thinking that it's not gonna I'm not gonna have hard days. I know that I will. And I know that if I'm away from the baby traveling it will be hard sometimes. But I also think there are some great benefits to being a working mom. And showing your son or daughter that that you can add that part to your life. And that's a part of who you are as well. We wish you all the best Shannon HOGAN broadcast host for the New York. Islanders on the MS G network, Shannon. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, and you can watch Shannon and the rest of the New York Islanders coverage for game one against the Pittsburgh Penguins tonight on the MS G network. And I just got this note from my control room. Go islanders. And that's our show for today. We appreciate you listening. I'm tansy Vega. This is the takeaway, and we'll see you tomorrow.

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Keep it high and tight, and my brother high and tight when you start going that weird crazy wildebeest like you know out there in castaway type of beard. We ain't about that. Life is not becoming on your brother. No fence keep behind tight. Trust me. Got Another. He got nothing nothing to say nothing to say and that's fine. And that's fine, real, quick, good morning John Harrison Good Morning Wood grain. What a Guangguo grain! How you doing my brother Peace! Peace My. Say Lord Peace Lord. Let's see Steve Richards Good Morning. Thank you for coming onto the show. He says. Thanks for your show. Thank you for enjoying our show I. really appreciate it. And, Chris Larose shot out the Chris main. That's a that's a brother from from from from high school. That's another throwback right there. He says looking good Tom Oh thank you Chris! Yes. Yes, Oh, Chris doing well this morning. Yes, of course he is. If he's able to stand up and type on his phone. That he pays for. He's doing okay. You see what I'm saying. You know. But. Sarah says wildebeest with laffy face. John says pass cow got upside down head, you have. Hey just because I led the what I lack in hair, I gain in talent and intelligence. That the reason, why have no hair is because I think so damn much. That's what's going on. There's so much knowledge locked in this. I'm just full ish I'm not that you're. Actually! Just burned all your hair. Yeah, just Mahad head and it just burned all my hair. That's a good one to Jack. Thank you, thank you, thank you, that's. When you're when you're talking. You know what that's not fair. That's not fair man. You know what I'm saying. Hey, I speak with passion. I'm Haitian it my blood. You know what I mean. I got Haas in my blood swag. You know what I'm saying. That's all. I like the John Benjamin quote on Balding, he says you know this isn't a bald spot. This is a solar panel for a sex machine. Right, that's a good one. No, no, that's a good one I said. That's pretty good. That's a good one. I don't know Viagra I. Don't need no blue pill. Hell you talking about I. Don't need no blue pill. Yes the the LAROSA. Family is watching right now as we speak. That's crazy. Must Really Nice, Hey larose family. Chris and his sister are watching right now. In different places at the same depth, top Bait larose family. Thank you so much for. Being on and supporting that really really does mean a lot anyway, so I'm glad everybody's OK. We're all above this ground again breathing another day breathing in another day and dealing with all this bs, but the fact that we could do with all the bs that gets thrown to us. Today is a blessing less remember that all right so moving on. Let's go into our top story of the day or one of our top stories of the day Candice Owens. If you if you don't already know, just did a video couple of days ago, responding, it was kind of a reaction video. And a response to. Candice Owens video about her saying I do not support George Floyd, and here are my reasons, and of course I'm getting a lot of hate. I got a lot of hate for that so far in. That's fine. That video ain't going down the video ain't going nowhere. It is what it is. You know what I'm saying. Haters hate and there's a lot of people out here. That believe what she thinks which is. Terrible? Terrible. But She's entitled to Her opinion. Just like everybody else's entitled to their opinion, so let's get into this part. It's about. Is About Candice Owens and her go fund me account, and she was raising money for a restaurant in Alabama and suddenly the go fund me. A company would gofundme. The organization turned down. Her Account, which was raising up to got up past two hundred thousand dollars for this. For this particular restaurant Tommy, boy speak on it. Yeah this part. This restaurant in Birmingham Alabama had caught some backlash after one of the CO owners guy named Michael Dykes Put out there. He said the people that are protesting the death of George Floyd, or He called George. Floyd a thug. Easy said that any employees that work for them that are involved in the protests should resign immediately. So Kansas Oh and set up. You know after after this guy, face some backlash. Candice Owens set up a go fund me account, which raised bound two hundred thousand dollars. For the parkside cafe before it was shut down for go fund me. gofundme you said that. They shut it down because it's a broken the company's prohibition on user content that they deem in their sole discretion to be in support of hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism or intolerance of any kind. The funds will still be the funds that have already been collected will be distributed to the bark side cafe, but the gofundme account is shutdown going forward now. Let me ask you this real quick Tom since you have the information in front of you. So this the the owner of the restaurant sent out that that text message calling George Florida Thug right then. The people were boycotting. The restaurant, but what spawned what inspired candice? Owens, to start a go fund me account specifically for them restaurant. That's what I WANNA try to understand a little bit. Yeah well after this guy posted this I, guess he tweeted it out. Three staff members that worked at the restaurant resigned. And you know he's he's faced. These face some backlash So I mean, he was saying that he should increase as prices for protesters. Yeah! So anyway, so he wanted to raise his price. I think he was saying that. It is like tongue in cheek like yeah. If they're going to be here, we should raise prices on them. I mean maybe wasn't saying at tongue in cheek. No, it doesn't sound like you were saying tongue tongue-in-cheek. So why would she try to support? Why would she try to raise money like that's what I'm saying. They looted was the place destroyed. Where why would she want to raise money on a restaurant? If the restaurants up functioning doing fine, that's that's my question. You see what I'm saying. I'm not doing anything. Destroyed by looters, and if it was destroyed by route, looters and rioters then I completely understand that piece, but if it was just like her. Raising money to support. that. Then, that starts bringing up some question marks. Anything. I mean I don't understand. Like why again why? Why raise them? Make any sense to me either I mean. That's exactly my thought I mean. I don't unders- I mean we're just GONNA start raising fundraisers for people that hold troubling, political and racial. Now I don't understand. Yes, so, and that's the thing. It's like all right so she. says. He calls her. He calls. George Floyd A. Suck in a text message. Somehow gets leaked. People find out. He says something about raising money or that raising money start raising his prices against black lives matter protesters. But then it's like. How do you know who is who? There's straight up wearing a t shirt that says black lives matter. So that so then that's discriminatory, discriminatory discriminatory. Yeah sure sure. Discriminatory within. You. See what I'm saying so then. Why why? Why would she go out of her way? To raise the money okay to raise money. For a company for a place an establishment. That is. Literally. a holding onto and harboring discrimination. And using. Racist, racial slurs. Against the black lives matter movement. I don't why her and why a gofundme me account. Jack Okay so she wrote an important exclamation point exclamation point dear patriots after watching my viral video, a cafe owner in Birmingham Alabama Senate private text message in agreement of my sentiments, that George Floyd was not an innocent man, and at the corresponding protests are now further blazing burden on business owners, still reeling from Corona virus, and now must contend with riots and looting. Some leftist wage waitress decided to leak this private exchange onto her facebook page deeming her. Her employer, the quote unquote, most hateful man. She has ever met now. The HASHTAG L. mob is after his business. The local press is demanding an apology. When people are telling others to boycott, his already struggling business, I am sick of the mob behavior. Have put together. Go Fund Me Campaign to help this man out, please please give what you can. It's okay to have a conservative opinion. It's okay to follow Candice Owens on facebook. This is America. Interesting Park parkside cafe. We won't let this happen to you. Okay wait so so here's the thing. Why was she support that? Now. Here's the thing here here here. It is okay that was. She's got a point there, she she is state facts. I'm not I will never sit here and say something where. Were the facts are. You don't mean she's putting out facts. Yes, it was a private text message had nothing to do with anything public. It wasn't like he put that out on on a on a tweet tweets, not like he did a youtube video or facebook video saying you know George, floyd was a thug or anything like that so I. Understand that that part. Should the guy get like? Should he get punished for for saying something like that, or should he? His business get smacked in the face for something like that? I'm a leave that up to everybody. WHO's watching and listening right now? Let me know what you think comet down below. But, because I'm going to try to stay on the fence on this one as much as I can, because as much as I want to I I am so. Motivated and so compelled to jump. On specific cited the fence and I think you hear what I'm. How and where I want to jump? But. Her starting a gofundme you account. For that restaurant and Them raising two hundred thousand dollars well over two hundred thousand dollars. And then suddenly, gofundme meet turns it. Off. Does it fall under the guidelines like under the policies. That go fund me has. Is it violating any of the policies by her raising money for the restaurant? She's not raising money for the owner. She's raising money for the restaurant. vesicles I leave up to everybody I'm leaving it up to you guys as well top go. They said that they have. They have rules against antidiscrimination. If he's saying that people that are protesting George Floyd should resign last discrimination. Plus I mean, do you. If you're the owner of go, fund me, you really want your platform to turn into a site where any mouth breathing. Out there that makes a racist statement can get a go fund me. Set up and become you know hundreds of thousands of dollars richer every time. He says something racist. You want that to be your company. Thank you. I mean they're a private company. They should be able to remove anything that they think is. You know of low moral character which I'd say this owner of the Guy, the cafe and Alabama is so yeah. They should take it off Tom and. Different. Different parkside cafe raise money for parkside cafe to support the workers, but instead the title of her. Campaign is mob. Rule has no place in America. So repeat that again calling. Matter as a mob. Repeat that again. What she? What was her tweet? Say That one more time well, the name of her go fund me like campaign was called. Mob Rule has no place in America. So, it wasn't like. Raise money for parkside cafe. Support Parkside cafe. It's you know furthering her stance were so it's a political campaign. As opposed to like a physical emotional support for the people that worked there. Word. Wasn't it meant to offset the the hit? They've taken from corona buyers now the ensuing boycott. Probably Yeah. I can't read the I can't find. Anything has a screen shot of her actual text from her. Go Fund me was go fund me. Statement has taken it down. Yes, I'm trying to find something that actually list out what she had on there. 'cause I don't know, said exactly, and that could be a big part of it. Well. Keep looking it up I. Do have some comments that I'm going to read real quick, okay. Sarah on facebook. Thank you so much for commenting Sarah Candice is supporting someone WHO's trying to divide people even more, and it's promoting hate speech. He doesn't deserve the money. She mentioned mob mentality. Have they seen the military unmarked men in riot gear in DC? Hardcore FACS. That's facts to. You can't be mad about those facts. You know what I'm saying. Now. Of course I'm trying my hardest to stay on the fence I. Really Want to jump off I. Really wanted to impose. But you can have a gate that you walk through for a little bit and go back. Yes yes, yes, you're right, so I can't say a little bit of something. In no way shape or form, does this make sense in no way shape or form doesn't make any sense for candidates to be supporting or supportive of this particular restaurant unless. They must have amazing Flap Jacks. That's just my personal opinion. There is. She is just really surprising me in so many different ways like I said her video, she her video about a why she doesn't support the George Floyd thing and all that she has have a fax has Halifax in. There doesn't mean that she's right does not mean that she's right, but at the same time when you have somebody who is an owner of a restaurant saying. Saying things like Oh calling George. Floyd Thug ostracizing a group of people, the black lives matter movements, protesters and all that. Those are things that. For her to go oh yeah, let me. Let me help this person out. Lewis looks suspect is all get out in my personal opinion. Look suspect as hell. What What I find really interesting. I'm going to say this to really quick, really quick then I'm going to jump back on this fence. Because she is a black woman. I feel like she was able to get away with a little bit. Because of it if this was a white man that was supporting that started to go fund me account, that thing would have been shut down so damn fast so damn fast. But she's a black woman. Therefore, so it's somewhat okay. So they jump on it like hey. We got candice own on our back behind us. She's got our back. She's starting to go to account because she's black. It's OK. Now she's now. She's basically saying that that type of talk. Though that type of rhetoric him sitting there, saying we should raise the prices on on food on our customers that we have in the in the black lives matter protesters customers that come in. We raise the prices. That's Kinda. A little bit racist tastes a little racist to me. But of course blacks okay. She's basically. She's she's condoning. Their behavior. That shouldn't be happening at all. But if it was a white guy. That thing would have been shut down real quick. Just saying it. I'm. GonNa. Go back on the fence now. Tell me what you guys think. Sorry, it's soon. It's too much. It's too easy not to say it. It's so hard not to say something. This so hard, not to say something when it comes to this. And because she is. Because, she is black because she is conservative because she is Republican. It's almost if. She is opened up this door where it's okay to think these things she's condoning. That type of Discriminatory. Rhetoric. That's ridiculous. Guys. I. I I WANNA try really carefully on this because. I'm very well aware of the fact that candace Owens's an African American woman, and I am a very very pasty white man. So, so I just want to preface it with that, but I mean. What is Candice Owens's brand? What? What is her role in the conservative movement and for me and I want to tread very carefully on this It seems like she's there to ensure white racists that she is a black woman condones their. Troubling Racist Behavior That, she's there Oh. Hey, a black person said it's okay that I did this. It seems to me. You know every time her name comes up. She seems to be defending people that are disparaging. Minorities. And I? Just can't help but see her role in the conservative movement as someone who's like Oh okay. It's okay that I say that because. Kenneth It's okay and she's black Scapegoat. Escaping. Scapegoat is Goat Goethe's. When you throw the blame on somebody else and there that's that's a scapegoat but crutch. Well. To say this. Word that describes what you're talking about I because I can say it. You guys probably can't. No, you guys can't. But I know we can't. A token. She's being used as a token. She is in this vacuum. Because like I said before and say a million times over I. do not care can't Izzo is was a hard core liberal. Before any of this is happening, then she. She ate the red pill. Does. She literally had a show called. The red pill or something like that? She was a hard core liberal. She ate the red pill. Suddenly! She got thrown in sucked into the vacuum of of Republican and. Just read, all she sees is red now. She's just read for life. She's. She's used as a puppet. She's being used as something it. There's something. Right in that situation now here's the thing doesn't mean that you cannot be black conservative. It is okay that's fine. I have plenty of black conservative friends. There are plenty of black conservatives that watched the show, but at the same time. There is. Fully take out. Certain things like racism. Out of your. Black Psych. PSYCH PSYCHOL- psychology. You can't take. Being black in this in America or being black in general, comes with a couple of things. that. You have to deal with on on mostly a daily basis. Which is one of them racism? Sorry, as much as some people say that doesn't exist in certain areas, does for her to sit there and say those things. Seems like she got brainwashed in a way, but that's just my personal opinion. Like I said not every black person I. Guess doesn't get the doesn't see. In their face racism. Or experience, racism man. You lucky as hell. You lucky is hell if that's the case, but with her. Through the hardcore liberal. She dealt with racism. N. Double ACP had her back, and got her helped her out on certain situations when she was in high school then she went back on. C., p., and said that it was a tarnished and messed up organization same group that helped her. In the in the situation that she had in highschool. There's something about it. That just isn't right for her to sit here and go the fact that he's saying thugs and he wants to raise money. Raise the prices on black lives matter. Protesters. That's fine. Let's raise some money for him because his. He has freedom of speech. He has the right to say all those things. Oh, he doesn't. He yes, there is freedom of speech, but he doesn't have the right. He should not be able to say those things and still be able to. Let's say he does try to raise money. Raise the prices on on items in a restaurant. Is that fair? What if you're a black conservative? What candace owens walks in. She's not Kansas since she's just a black woman. Walking in say she's a hardcore black conservative, still same person just different. Different lifestyle, just different life. He's going to raise the money to raise the prices on you. Why 'cause you're black? He's going to automatically assume that you're part of the black lives. Matter Movement, so you're going to endorse that. That's okay. Anyway. So she's used as a puppet. She's used. She's being used as the symbol whatever they gave her whatever they said. Hey, we want to come over here. You're really great at debating. You're really well-spoken. You're Willie. Really well. Read you know what we need on this side or whatever? Maybe she was just like. Hey, let me go over to the Republican convention and see what's going on. Felt some type away on certain points. And then to sit career. You're pretty. You're black and you're female. We need more of you on our side. Come here. This. May sound crazy, but that's what it does feel like fellas. So. I found that. Go Fund me like texting and things that she hasn't here I. Go Fund me still release the money. After the canceled the campaign, they still release the money that was raised to do the restaurant. but they are making sure like they're getting a list of like how the money's going to be used and like Kinda putting additional oversight onto it. and it's not going directly to the honor they said. But It was the same type of That, she wrote in there, but like so the first thing that the owner had written in the Texas chain the got shared was we should go up one or two dollars on everything until June tenth, call it a protest tax because of all the idiots that went to the protest responsible for us, not being open, being able to open normal hours. Any employees that went are still going should resign Mr. Floyd was getting deserve to die, but I don't know responsible and I think that's so shortsighted. and I think obviously what happened to George Floyd was unacceptable. But His incident is not what the overall protests and everything in else is about. It's about the systems specific race racism. It happened in our country, and this is a tipping point that you know has allowed for more people to voice their opinion and show their support for a change, so it's. When you just look at the one incident and then assume that all worldwide protests are over the one incident, and not the larger issue at hand. It's super, just shortsighted and the go fund me that she wrote up. and it lists out. Pull this here. Basically the same text that she wrote she just liberated a little bit more to it. and let me see. Lost my spot there are. Coach. Okay so Nobody I have lost that page. It has refreshed on me. Up here in a second, but basically WHO's asking him to saying that the mob mentality can happen that support of George. Floyd you know and put in the media the way that they're spending it to make him look like a you know a societal Benefit or something like that I'm trying to find her wording that she used. Sorry, it's all good la here. Okay As an employee of of his decided to leak, these private text messages quit her. Job is now encourage people to boycott. The park said cafe. Local media is adding further fuel to the condemnation demanding. He answered for his private text message exchange. I'm sick. The mob ruining people's lives. People are allowed to have different opinions. The left specializes in mobs of hate and destruction. Let's create a reciprocal movement Patriot love and support the parkside cafe. and she goes. This is the parkside FAA. Restaurant and bar in Birmingham Alabama does operated by a man named Michael Dykes. This meant this week. Michael Dykes Watch my video, which one hundred million views in forty two hours about the irresponsibility that George Floyd protests and riots Michael agreed with me and frustration wrote a private text to one of his colleagues, but how destructive. Destructive the protests were and how they are placing further burden on small business owners I stay alive after the coronavirus lockdowns, and now cannot open because of the riots Michael also agree with my sentiment that George Floyd did not deserve to die, but also that he had a criminal record, there was not worthy of the heroic characterizations media spending. Today Blah Blah Blah. You exactly Blah Blah Blah Blah people that are actually donating money and stuff, and they leave comments like I'm sticking left canceling what they don't agree with. I hope it's huge adamant Middle Finger 'cause. I wanted because Kennison's top since. And I am fed up with the left to attack others simply because they have a different point of view than their woke woke ideas. Putting this together for him, can I just checked the question? Can I interject one second? Why not if that's the case if she's like? Go Fund me. Account obviously is cancelled. Obviously, it's being suspended now but. Why not just make a gofundme account for all restaurants that are getting hit by the riots? Why only that restaurant in particular in particular? Why that one? If they had any other guys? There are plenty of other restaurants. That think the same ish as that man does. What were you saying Jack? What were you saying if they were having private text message exchanges? That means that she knows him. Word facts see what I'm saying. See what I'm saying. It smells fishy. Smells fishy. Like I could turn this into a song man, I should turn this into a song for crying out loud. It doesn't make any sense. Why would she support homeboy then not any other person that's been hit. By the looting and the rioting, then there are plenty of other places have been smashed. You know what I'm saying. This Kathy's kitchen in Ferguson Missouri. One of the biggest supporters of the black lives matter movement. Obviously, she wouldn't want to raise money for them. Of course not. But Alabama because he's, he says thugs in a text message, and that's okay. What about everybody else, two hundred thousand dollars. Two hundred thousand dollars. You know much. You can do with that with Arab in just one city. For like a couple restaurants in Alabama how about a couple restaurants just them watch US damned Oh why? Smells Fiche. Admit what a moron! This Michael! Dykes sky is if you're running a business, maybe you don't send incendiary text messages to your employees threatening them that they should resign if they're involved in the protests and you know saying extremely divisive stuff about George Floyd and the protesters I mean you can. You can crack open recent polls and see where the public. You know where the public stands on George Floyd's death and the protests. This guy's in the minority of people saying that there shouldn't be protests. So if he's going to go out there and antagonize the majority of people in the country. Should he expect a boycott? A boycott is fours. If you go out and say some ignorant stuff and tick off a bunch of customers, those customers. In this country called America can take their wallet and go anywhere the Hell they want. owens comes in with their little racist angels and raises two hundred thousand dollars for this scumbag. Right is it's just amazing. See what I'm saying. Okay okay, I'm glad that we talked it out. Because at this smells really ripe. Smells Raunchy domain is smells not right, but that's just me. That's me. There's other people that are going to be oh. This like a disagree. In there in the in the chat in the comments down below. have at it. Enjoy yourself, but at the same time doesn't seem like it makes any sense. Maybe she got some money behind it. Maybe she's financially backing them. Maybe she's a part owner or a private silent investor. You never know, but it doesn't make any sense. Still doesn't make any sense. You know what I WANNA do right now. Guys I want to open up the opened up the phones. Let's get the phone lines open. Give us a call at three, one, four, seven, six, six, four, five, eight one. Let me know what you think because you know. What do you think her go? Fund me account should have been. suspended. Should her go fund me. Account have been suspended. Give me a call. Three, one, four, seven, six, six, four, five, eight one drop a dime. Let me know what you think because I'd love to hear what your thoughts are real talk. Yogi, fish real quick. Thank you so much for the tip. I really appreciate it. He just tipped US ten ten bucks. He says I. I'm a true conservative. It's not about politics. Candice is just an opportunist actress. Very, good job very nice. I couldn't agree more. She is definitely riding on the fact of what's going on. And what's funny. Is that even in her tweet? That Jack was just reading to us. She even has to mention Oh this video that I put out about George Floyd and his his criminal record has well over a hundred million views in forty eight hours. Gives a damn. Get said some stuff. Some people agreed with you and there's a lot of other people that disagree with you to. Whether you got five us on IT, no! Man. Man Oh man give us a call three one. Seven, six, six, four, five, eight one. Let me know what you think. Should. Her account be suspended or Nah. She went on to Fox News. I guess back after she became a conservative. and talked about how the NRA was based as a civil rights movement to help out. african-americans defend against the KKK. Pure Lie and then she has a website called blacks it. Yeah, yeah and. There is a couple of historians of went on in like basically fact checked her entire upset and you're like. Why is everything on your side alive? And, then if you go back a few years before that she starts talking about the Republican Tea Party, and this and that and like they just break down over the last. Ten years about her switch on stance and they're like. Yeah. She basically is literally following the money. In WAC helped her out with that case she wanted like thirty seven thousand dollars, and settled down out of food, and then she went, and she lived at a place of US thirty five dollars a month rent the different six months in a dime and then. Claimed that. She got toxic Mold Syndrome. and. Before moving out talks like. She is a weird past. Sorry, wait, say that again. Toxic Mold Syndrome. Excuse me, yeah! Learn Mold all up in the house or whatever and then you get sick from it word. First month's rent. Live there for another five months after. If you knew you had that knew that is really new. I didn't know I didn't know about about all that stuff I just knew about. Her upbringing high school the whole nine. You know like I said. Anybody people can change I get that. Everyone has the right to change their minds or. Be One thing, and then suddenly you know, be all about blue, and then all of a sudden go read or all about red and go blue. I mean it's all good. People who ride the fence and stay in the middle pretty much for the most part, but at the same time. Wow, that's wild stuff, man! That's wild man. That's wild. My question is who is donating to this thing I mean. We're like in a recession like lockdown. Still in place, people really have that much disposable income. Be Like racist cafe owner in Alabama. That's. I'll separate with my money that way. I mean. How? How do they find people that are willing to pay for these causes and I get you know the only thing I can think is must be the same people that are donating to trump's campaign when trump's already a billionaire. That said he's going to fund this own. Facts or were they dumb? Do you have to be two separate with your money like that? Right or the the you know, there's certain people that fund her. Like, there's no way like if you really think about it. How long girl? How does this girl makes some money's? How does he make them? Think about it. Think about it, she does. Special engagements should still do some special. Speaking engagements, she's a keynote speaker places. She's got a book. That's been out for like a year or something like that actually I'm compelled to pick up the book and read it for myself because I just WanNa. See what's in this book, but other than that. Where does he maker money? It's not like she's office is not like she. She's not. She's just a she might make. She makes money off of youtube she's she's got her exit. Events. And all that and her website and all that. Where does he make her money? You know she's not making the money just off of Youtube views. You see what I'm saying. She's not just some glorified youtuber. She's out here. People are endorsing her in some sort of way. So. Of course, she gotTa keep securing the bags so that. To live so. It makes you wonder. WHO's really like I said I. Keep saying puppet. Puppet but. kind of coming out in that way. Did you know in April twenty twenty that she announced her intention either run for office in the US Senate or to be governor? Yeah And that she would only run against incumbent Democrat and Republican. Told you. I told you that they're they are literally. They're grooming her for office whether it's for the future president. Senate representative. What have you governor whatever whatever it is? They're grooming her for something big. Just wait for it. He's already well trained. She's well trained. Her. Her Blacks Movement movement her in the Donald Trump. Presidential campaign are the ones that launched it. So if you wonder who she being paid by, it's the Donald Trump presidential campaign and then she, basically that movement is to encourage African Americans ben in the Democratic Party and Register as Republicans, and then the. On the launch, said that her dear friend and fellow Superhero Kanye West designer merchandise from the movement. But the following day less than being the designer disavowed the effort, saying I never wanted an association with Alexa. been used to spread messages. I don't believe that. That's very. And shortly after the launch, the daily beast found the approximately sixteen percent of the total tweets using the blacks. Hashtag, we're twitter accounts associated with the promotion of Russian disinformation. Berwick. Word. Word for fear, SOCIETAS WITH THE DONALD TRUMP presidential campaign I mean look how many of the tweets were shown to be pushed during that time, too, so if you're associated with that, they already have Russian. bots that are going after those whether bats that are focusing on or about Saddam inclusion with it That's what's up for grabs I guess wow okay. Interesting everything's everything goes back to Russia. It's hilarious. You know if he does he dies. And and meanwhile all this is going on, and while the FBI saying that Russia's actively trying to interfere with the twenty twenty election trump is out there. Trying to get Russia reinstated the G. Seven, and basically being laughed out of the room by other members G. Seven, saying. We're not going to let Russia in. It's crazy. So and it really doesn't nineteen three weeks after she met her current husband. She became engaged him on a facetime call. George farmer of England he's an Oxford University graduate works in a Hedge Fund and is set son of Lord farmer. British peer Conservative Party member of the House of Lords and businessmen. I'm sure there's no influence there. Yeah, that's. Things that make you real talk. There's this too many questionable things, too. Many question marks all the time. Real talk. Tanu vein just said and thank you so much for the five dollar tip. Thank you so much, Tanto Vein. Said, too many people are just trying to make profit off tragedy, and then that's very true she is. She's definitely one of them, but there's a lot of people that are I mean. Let's be completely straight funky on both sides of the fence. Hate to say it like that, but is true. People are making t-shirts all day long with George Floyd's face in name all over it. I can't breathe. T shirts that are being sold the whole nine so I'm both sides of the fence. People are trying to profit off of this whole movement right now. Pretty much. 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If I'm correct, we were just having this conversation. Right before right during our commercial break. Yesterday was A. A. George Floyd. They had a George George Floyd memorial service with an open casket. Correct guys. Hip It was an open casket. Believe so so just in just so everybody knows the man is really dead. His body was in a casket. It was an open casket y'all so you saw his body. There's a lot of people that still think that this man ain't dead. The man is dead. The man has passed. He is gone. There are so many theories out there. It's crazy. But. Just so you guys know. They had an open casket. Service. With him yesterday now for my understanding, today is the funeral. Of George Floyd! But also today. Former police officer Derek Shaaban is supposed to be going into court today. Excuse me. And he went, and he wanted to see oh. My bad shoe. My Bet, so he went into court yesterday. So do we have any information in regards to that? It regards to his testimony. His first court hearing yesterday he appeared via live video feed from the jail cell lease in right now. And his bail. Was Set at one point two five million dollars. WHOA. Is that enough. How quickly this money was raised for this. Little Tiny restaurant and four hours eighty. Grandma's raised so we. So you can disowns is going to be up soon. Certain a gun, go fund me Dick Shelf, and no kidding way for. His bail his his his bail. One point you said one point two five. Point two five million dollars million dollars. They should just lock him up and throw away the key. That's my personal opinion. Because he only they only need to post ten percent of that bail. Correct so yeah, they could raise that money real quick. Second murder, he could be free in seconds. Wow? Almost, nothing an eleven, minute hearing, and which she appeared before Hennepin County Judge Denise Riley. And on a closed circuit television for the states, maximum security prison in Oak Park Heights. So. Yeah his his attorney or Nelson did not contest the bail. Raise from the five hundred thousand initially sent in the case, and they didn't address the substance of the charges, which also include degree, murder and second degree manslaughter. A his conditions for supervised release include cannot lead the state without permission they must be must keep all appointments. Ten hearings is other conditions include that he did not work in a security capacity, and then carry new firearms, and cannot have a firearms permit is still a licensed police. A peace officer not employed at the moment and and released. He must have no contact with the victim anyway, and he would need to waive extradition upon his release. So, he can still get out oh. Yeah, he still he's still go home. You know, enjoy himself a coke and a burger. You know what I'm saying, but at the same time. He won't be able to do a damn thing. Of course as he shouldn't be able to do a damn thing, man I'm GonNa. Be Real with you straight up and down. If this was if I was him, which I'd never would want to be an issue and I would never do that so. This is a hypothetical idea. This is a fantasy, a horrid horrid fantasy, but If I were him, stay locked up. Our stay straight up locked up. I would not go anywhere brand I'd stay locked up. Call the day shoot. I really enjoyed those hot pockets in those those heat breakfast meals that they dislike into the into the cell and all that stuff man. I'd be done. I wouldn't wanNA. Step out free as a bird shoot. You would have to have twenty four seven security. There's so many people go out for you. You Basically Got Faatoia twelve on your head man, hell Nah I'm good. I'm good on all that. Help plenty of Patriots that be willing to stand guard Brent Oh yeah. They got the Ar Fifteen. Out Being American, and that's fine. That's fine, but at the same time like. They better be ready for the thunder. They. They better be ready for that swarm of people. He's going to be hiding big little if he ever does post bail which he most likely will. He's going to have to be in hiding. Real talk. Like Syria is protection witness literally took the words out of my Mouth Jack Witness Protection Program like a move like real talk. He's not going to be. WHO IF HE GETS OUT? He won't be around for very long if they play stupid with him. That's all I'm saying. I'm in agreement with you there I, if I if I'm Derek traveling I I'm definitely staying in that prison I don't want to be out where the. But then again today same time look at George Zimmerman. Everybody was like well George. Zimmerman was found. You know wasn't charged now. He's going to be able. You know people are going to be gone in for George. Zimmerman is doing just fine well. He's crazy because he sitting there trying to. Auction off his the weapon that killed Trayvon Martin and all that crazy stuff i. mean he's a piece of trash Oh. Yeah, and of course. You know. which is wild like no one touched him. He hasn't been touched at all. At least that has been reported, so I don't know you know. He could be getting some serious protection, but that's the thing on the other side of things with Derek Shaaban I mean there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people that are angry. Latin. Literally tearing an entire country apart right now. So. I don't know he's No. No no, because he. Dare shelving or show van, or whatever you? However you pronounce his last name. He is literally the face. Of every everything. That's wrong in this country right now. At this moment right now, it is not Zimmerman right now. It's Derek Shaw Vigne. So. In, the whole world is angry. The whole world's on fire. If he was to post bail. And not have the proper amount of protection behind him. You, he could literally kisses ascot by he's going to. He's going to end up missing. No one's GonNa know where he went. Looks like we got a phone call. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA, get this real quick. You're on the Mike with the Pascal show. What's your name where you call them from? A US colleges. and. It was Mang how you doing brother. was going, on. Vacation about the. Don't talk to Jack. Yeah you don't. I don't want you guys to get it twisted making it seem like you only can talk to me. All the time and everything is just. I don't have the software as of yet. It's almost as if I got a buy a whole other rig to be able to do phone calls so that we can all be a part of the conversation, but they're also listening as well. You know what I mean so they might be on after the fact, but still they're part of the Combo. So, what's on your mind? Real? Quick? What's going on? Wanted to ask you a question to. The you believe in Communism? or capitalism. Well I. believe in capitalism a you know. I live in that world right now. Green means go. so just on a very basic bef- so that we don't go dive in all the way into that conversation capitalism for sure. Okay well. That's what that's what we're. That's book. This is all about that's what American politics has been about were. Last hundred or so years, probably even before that Brian it's been about communism versus capitalism now and I heard Jacqui told ragging on. Kansas talk to your. P.. N. Double ACP started out. As a communist organization. And, William, all the founders were Communists K and it was the vessel. Stoke Communist Right. So William W. William e the boy, the wise with the bose. He started his own party. and. Double ACP. All you started his own Communist Party. Okay so. We went to read it now. The fight Communist. You know we had issue with Cuba. Because the Communist Yup, you know the Russia, Washer, and the reason why is because of come live communism? China so the war that have been fought. Over the last twenty years even North Korea. Communism versus capitalism. So you can. Count You could talk about George Floyd is or protest. You can talk about everything once. You bought it now. It's always gonNA come back to communism versus folks who live. Okay, so if you look at things from those lenses as you, we'll how how? How is this? Related to come or House related to capitalists. That's what that's what that's what you're saying. So, the protests, the defending the police. The police all communist I did brand to police the funding the military Anti. Anti Second Amendment all that. That's all come you. Did. But the average person. Take the time to. do their own research. And so they just look at what the news cycle spin twenty, four seven seven major evidence, great war. In America. Post. Post reconstruction at elites. I had the as far as a before that. Stoked by the newspapers. The Greenwood remember that movie. Greenwood. Within Wayne! Joe. Would I'm sorry. Oh Yeah Rosewood. where? Okay, I'LL I! Race war, coca race, Moore all were stoked I buy newspapers They say they will say something like okay. Where they just arrested a black man. They the go hang up and then black people go they go. You know they want to the courthouse. Okay, well now. Okay? Black people are trying to run for the courthouse and shoot judges and cops now who come to white people every race war. Post reconstruction. had been started by. Rumors from either. Outlet. Or newspapers, They saw when you look at when you look at his joy slowing situation. Okay. Everybody saw the video. Everybody from from from the Democrats to Republicans all agreed that Haley Bass that's agreed. Shouldn't be happening. But somehow fit for. bad cops to. All White, and black lives matter gets into it. The narrative gets lost because of the new. Because every. That you can find for black man. Some rise trail more. Ongoing, you can find the exact example. And matter of fact grabbing water you can find to. Of. Whites didn't like that because. The police, the police got up shooting. Killing on black people is twice as high when it comes to white people. Now. I understand that. When you're talking about sixty five percent of whites versus thirteen percent. Okay that that's a big thing. That is a bigger. That's a bigger percentage A black worship. Right. But there other underlying factors thing about systemic racism. Okay well, why do Jamaica And Haitians. Bentley with Everydollar, black immigrants that come to this country does better than native born black. Slave. Every one of Brought to public slave ancestry with immigration in their family and I'm. I I have several generations There's been this country and I think place. My durations at least four were slaves. Them So. We've been doing my my parents got. Limited because that's why slated asset, because my my last name is actually Chris. So. My family were British slaves before there was therefore they were before there was the American revolution. So, saying so. Why is that? All these these other African or African ancestry immigrant from different countries and come over to the United States. And and do well and the system. But then there's there's the black native that can't do well, and then they say well. You know if the racist. because. The black family, the black economic milk and stuff like that didn't start. Until nineteen days. So long this a factor. Going the Jim Crow era. or the order or reconstruction era that was no wealth gaslight like we see now. There's a huge will will wrap now. As far as made it four foreign blacks you. Use the like I said when he used immigrant rights. You don't see that you don't see that that that as high of they're not at the bottom there actually at the top percentile when you talk about all blacks in American. Perfect? So like I said I mean that's a lot to digest. Right. To judge that that's a lot of questions. That's a lot of questions a lot a lot to digest and big. Jack Goo-. Come in on that. Yeah! I'm actually going to jump them. Bring them back on, and and you know of course. See what their two cents are in regards to this. Enemy, thank you so much for calling I'm GonNa Throw them I'm gonNA. Throw the question over to them, okay? Okay thank you brother base. All right, let's get back into it real. Quick. See what their thoughts are. Hey, guys. Hopefully. Hopefully. You guys were able to hear that conversation. I wanted to get you guys as two cents on that before. I, jump in and say anything for myself. So you know He. He really wanted to hear from. You guys so to speak on it. So it's a couple of different like. US videos and stuff that had. Had come out and and same thing where. A black man was same in A. There's no racism in America. There's no situation set up to where like the African Americans in America and they can't succeed It's kind of going around the whole idea of systemic. You know Hold back basically and saying that if you work hard, they you can succeed now if someone's going to as an immigrant from another country over here and then can try to set themselves up. You know. That hard work ethic. country on your own and current date situation and coming over. there. You're already with that plan of probably coming over here at nothing. In you plan to work hard to get where you WANNA, go. I don't. Think that argument that is not now just hard. Work is enough for most Americans. They will work hard, white black Asian every anybody. If you work hard, luckily work hard all their life and they have nothing to show for it right. So, but if there is a system that set up and you're put into this cog in wheel that has constantly holding you back in his constantly, not giving you the same opportunities in his constantly telling you that you're not good enough, as is setting you up for US mentality that. You know that White, America's better than everybody else. It makes it that much harder to succeed. It's. People that are. Wealthy families that have left and come over. They don't necessarily have the means you know here to you know to do. You might be a doctor in another country and come here in your doctor doesn't apply anymore night. Start all over. It doesn't mean that you're going to be successful. Know. There are the occasional. Success stories come out, but I don't think that it's a overwhelming thing. Look at all the immigrants that are coming now that don't have jobs that don't have a social life, but they have left out of an area that is were torn and is in A. It's it's it's safer here, but it's not necessarily the success in American dream that everyone was up to believe they could have. I don't know what the right answer is. I don't know why some. Individuals succeed out of out of any type of thing you get. You are pushed. The stories heard the stories of and especially the media to bring up. Oh, well, you know. They were raised in the in the Bronx in the worst part of the neighborhood, and they succeeded Brazo. Why can't you and but there are so many different elements that go into someone's upbringing, and whether or not their family had both parents whether they had a successful job whether those parents talk to their kids about certain things whether they gave them the the means to be able to think on their own to be able to be successful. Because, obviously schooling doesn't do it and I don't know. I. Don't Know Jack Tom What do you think? Yeah! It's I was interested that he was mentioning the history of socialism or communism with. CPI and. There's a lot of history there But I don't know I mean. It just. I'm not really sure what to say about it I. Don't know. The. You know the the long history of socialism and within double ACP I mean taking account back. Then you living under Jim Crow era capitalism Socialism which is all about lifting up the underclass and I could see where that would be a very appealing ideology. To African Americans living under Jim Crow in. You know the early twentieth century. Be a very very appealing. Very appealing form of economics if I mean we're still at that point. WHAT FIFTY YEARS! Out of Outside of vendor slavery. I don't know I. I I'm not exactly sure that they're. The media, stoking flames of this. I don't really know that I I I don't I don't I. Don't buy that. Can I can I, can I jump on here real quick because I. Know that Tom Trust me. I feel you on what your? Thoughts are going through your mind right now. And, I feel I feel all both of you guys feel what's going on in the room because I feel what what enemy nation saying and I feel what you are saying is well. It's a very slippery slippery slope. When it comes to talking about communism, capitalism, socialism, the ACP or the NRA. What what sprouted it? What started the whole nine in regards to the the the the media Stoking the flames of of this whole thing of systemic racism and the whole nine. To everything from a covering all those things so real. Quick I just want to say a few things now one. All right, there's not really a list of things, but the things that really popped up. You were just talking about that Tom About. About media. Covering, stoking the flames, and this is what he mentioned in of course I wanted to kind of tap on it really quick so here it is. The media. The media is a very funny thing. Of course. Like I talked about last night. And I've said a million times before. If it bleeds, it leads so of course. They're going after all the things that they see. Would bring eyeballs to their channel to their news station the whole night. Unfortunately, del Mar the brakes. That's just how it is. But at the same time. The media is not really the only place that stoking the flames or putting the awareness of the systemic racism. Out there. Social media is another factor into this thing. I feel like there's a lot of things. Let. Let's just say this thing about this for a second. My brothers and sisters. You have a video. Where a man has his knee on another man's neck? Throw out race throughout cop throughout black white doesn't matter. Put that out for second just a video about that. Okay? Where are you seeing that video? Ninety five percent of the time. You've seen this on your phone where you seeing that on your phone. Social Media. Now that is something that the people that you were talking everyone you're talking about. The general public is re sharing sharing sharing sharing sharing sharing re tweeting retweeting. Commenting sharing sharing sharing, and it goes all over the place to the point where the media sees it as well because they are saying Oh. This is this. This is this thing that's blowing up? Then they start bringing awareness to it. Then they start talking about it, but the flames were already stoked way before the media even got the hands on, said video. For me. What I found out about George Fluid to death. I saw it online. I didn't see it on. TV I didn't turn on Fox Fox News CNN. MSNBC, or the local news I opened up my phone and there it was. Social media so when you talk about the media stoking the flames no. This is what social media is therefore in a way. It they are sometimes social media is. More on the pulse of what's really going on then media media kind of regular media, traditional media lists say seems to ride on the band. Right on the on the seems to piggyback off of what's going on social media shoot. I got so many friends that are in that are TV journalists and all that stuff that are working for local local news stations and. And all that and they tell me to my face that they have rooms that are basically just an entire huge social media office where they just watch everything that's going on on social media to find out what's popping off so that they can be on top of what's going on social media. That's really putting out the stuff out there. The regular news is just. Trying to catch up. So I. Don't enemy. I don't agree with you in regards to the media. Stoking the flames. I don't think so. Those videos were viral before they even start talking about, said thing. They're talking about it. 'cause everybody else's and they wanna be able to be the person that they want to be the first place, so the first station debris out and talk about what's going on on social media, so why so that they can get more eyeballs on their on their channel on their station I mean that's the that's the real truth of it all. So I don't I don't fully agree with that now. Let's go into the NRA and. So on and so forth. We even talk about Democrat Republican. All these groups started in some sort of way. They all are of something. Whether it's good or not. You know shoot man. You could talk about bloods and crips. The bloods and CRIPS will created because they wanted to protect their own community. It morphed into something else, but it started as something and turned into something else so you can say the same thing about N. double ACP. You can say the same thing about. You could say the same thing about being a Republican or Democrat. They all sprout from something. Whether it's good or not. They sprout from something, but then morph into something else. So. I think I covered all those questions. I think oh The other thing is. Is that somebody said something? Enemy, nation did say something about. Why immigrants come to this country, and seemed to do seem to be able to work or be better or t t t to thrive more than than. Actual. Americans Black Americans that are here okay. I am a first generation Haitian so born and raised here. My parents are immigrants I am I am a a son of an immigrant of immigrant parents. First Generation American came here. Same story is everybody's. I've heard a million times you know. Parents came over here. My father came over here with basically nothing in his pocket worked his tail off, and was was able to grow a thriving business and do well for himself. We we all had we never wanted for nothing. Was a lucky kid in that in that in that regard, but at the same time. I think that there's certain things. That are holding. The black community down. Instantly that I think that a lot of black immigrants aren't seeing right off the bat. So maybe there's generations as enemies said he has. If I'm correct, has seven seven generations of a goes all the way back to slavery. and. I hate to say this, but maybe it's it's. Part of this. Mentality, that's been instilled. In the black community. that. Instantly keeps pushing them down whereas instead of this being the land country of opportunity. Is the land the land of you can't do it because you're black. But then you have the Jamaicans and Haitians and Africans and all that that come over here. And are able to build something because we see America as the land of opportunity. We see the yellow brick road and it's like hey, if you work hard, and you work your tail off that maybe something good can come of it but I think that. Maybe there is a bit of the. There maybe there is a bit of a of a mentality that is being like a defeatist mentality that is instilled in some sort of way, but I don't know I can't really speak for the whole black community. I am just one voice, and I am just one person. But I know that. I grew up with a lot of Haitians a lot of Haitians Jamaicans. And they all came here. Realizing that from in comparison to where they came from, this was a much better situation than where they were. Where they were were at. And that they just utilize the opportunities as much as they could, and they worked their tails off. There it is. Think I answered everything. I think. I didn't want him to think that I'm going to. Shy Away from answering anything. Any of his questions but that's. That's what I think about your your question there. And Nation, so thank you so much for. Calling in and putting in your two cents. FELLAS. For calling and I. I noted in on the comments. Here noting. These a Bayton switch. I don't know if he was saying that I was beaten switching. I'm not sure where. That comment was I. Guess aimed towards our what statement I made. The might have been that so I apologize if I pull the Bayton switch. Didn't intend that. And so. Hopefully, you know, we can all find A. Some. Clarity And Education? Along the way from As. We go over the next. You know several months and see what what happens from everything. Yeah, and hopefully there is some actual movement than happens yeah. I'm afraid that now that there's indictments and stuff that you know change. May Happen in a couple of cities, but I again I'm. Very wary of Thinking and I'm trying not to be naive and think that there'll be an instant change. This is going to be something that happens over the next. You know next generation is really what it's going to going to actually see big important change. But in the say that something's going to happen in the next month or two months. SESTAK don't see it happening. Yeah! We're real. Quick Real quick. A Rodney King the Rodney. King riots and everything was in what year. And the ninety two, that was ninety two okay. Check it really quick because enemy nation. Just as he said, where was social media in one thousand, nine hundred during the race riots, then the Tulsa riots and the the nine hundred ninety two race riots and I'll ninety. One was when Rodney King the Rodney. King video came out. Okay, March, third ninety one. Okay, so the race riots happened a year or so afterwards because obviously. Because of the the. The, you know how people felt in regards to the. In regards to Rodney King the Rodney King beating now Rodney King was the very first social media video. If you think about it, he was the first social like the the first black. Police brutality video that had gone viral in that time. Ever. So I can't sit here and say. The social media was around. Nineteen hundred eight hell, no, and also in the with the Tulsa riot riots, of course not, but I can say that at least during that time you have a video that's being seen over and over and over again. And yes, I get that media in general is out there to tell the stories and put the. Out there how the general public takes, it is another thing, too. You gotta remember that as well. You know but then again you know. Like I said we can. We can talk about this. We're blue in the face which we can't unfortunately. We gotta go to a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. We're GONNA be talking about the next thing we got talking about is Tucker. Carlson on his show goes on a racist rant. Stick around. We'll be right back. This is the Pascal show back. Hey, we'll go back. Guys, thank you guys so much for tuning the first time checking out there, so please go crush de-subscribe button on our youtube channel. That would really mean a lot of course. Keep the conversation still going on down below. Really do appreciate it and hit that like button down below. Let us know that you're enjoying the conversation. We're having some. grab some very interesting conversations today I. appreciate everybody who is coming. You know shutout to enemy nation for bringing up very very good. loaded. How do I say that? Not loaded because that sounds. Complex question. It's a very good question. You know what I mean making us. Use Our brain matter today. Literally he's making us think. And I really do appreciate that for sure, but anyway we gotta get into the other things that are going on the world and some other news pieces especially one of our top news stories. Tucker Carlson. Okay. Let's say Fox News Pundit Tucker Carlson. was on his show just yesterday if I'm correct and had quite an interesting. Rant. that. Kind of. Popped up a few red flags, a few racist flags and tops got the story, Tommy Boy, what a Gwan. Professional Wide Tucker Carlson. And A. Kind of. I mean we all know what Fox News. Is this a place that stokes fear and outrage among right wing people well. A lot of people are saying Tucker. Carlson sold at a little hard yesterday. He was. I'll just quote here. talking about the black lives matter movement. He said that you know the black lives matter. Movement is not about He says definitely not about black lives. He says this may be a lot of things this moment we're living through, but it is definitely not about black lives, and he says remember that when they come for you and at this rate right will I got. He says anyone who has ever been subjected to the rage of the mob nose, the feeling he continued its like being swarmed by Hornets. You cannot think clearly, and the temptation is to panic, but you can't panic. You've got to keep your head and tell the truth. If you show weakness of any kind, they will crush you. Yeah, so basically you're saying black lives. Matter is coming into your home and say. Yeah and I was just saying I got the video right here. I just quoted it all, but we're just going to play the video anyway, curious. Is Central. To life prospects of. They tried to make black neighborhoods as safe as their own neighborhoods, he would close the payday lenders that had so much misery to the lives of poor people of all colors. But they don't even consider doing any of us. Don't even try. Instead the encourage theft, and may as if that will help, it will not help. This may be a lot of things. This moment we're living through, but it is definitely not about black lives and remember that when they come for you and at this rate they will. Never been subjected to the rage of the mob nose the feeling it's like being swarmed by Hornets, you cannot think clearly, and the temptation is to panic, but you can't panic. You've got to keep your head and tell the truth. Tell the truth. If you show weakness of any kind, they will crush you. Ask drew brees by some accounts. Poor drew. BREES is on his fourth apology for the crime of defending the American flack. He decided to apologize another using him as a propaganda work in hostage tape after hostage tape. And a moment like this. There is no advantage in cowardice in being Mitt. Romney you think you're saving yourself? You're just empowering the worst people people who hate you. Before you know what you're confessing to crimes. You didn't commit. Don't start. Tell the truth and the truth is. This is a good country. Wow. So yeah. So, yeah. That's Tucker Carlson for yes. Now. They. He kept saying they they they they. They say they. He. Did he did. He compared the black lives. Movement the Black Lives Matter Movement to. Hornets. Did he just. Did the hello. Hell is wrong with this dude man like he is like. FEARMONGERING! He's literally trying to sit there and go wait for them. They're coming for you. The bogeyman is coming for come on Y'all. GET, out of here and then he's sitting there talking about. DREW BREES! He's on his fourth apology Blah Blah Blah well. I mean you know. Drew. Brees should've just said something that he needed to say in a in a more diplomatic banner. Realized the climate of what's going on right now and kept his mouth shut. He could have just kept his mouth shut if he's on his fourth apology video shoot man that's on him if he wants the decide to pick up his phone and make another apology video, no offense but you made that bed drew line it. That's what I think. Mitt Romney. MEMIS. Feels like he's if he feels, he wants to go and be a part of the black lab. Black lives matter black lives matter movement or protest and be there in solidarity shoot. This is Brogden admit. In fact, I salute you Mitt. Thank you. We need more people over there. That's so ridiculous. Tucker Carlson is on crack. He's smoking some good as crack cocaine. That's what I think guys. I'll say upper Carlson. Bread and butter, stoking fear among mostly white older conservatives. That's his bread and butter so. Getting mad at Tucker, Carlson for stoking fear is like getting mad at Tony Hawk for writing skateboard. It's what he does. That's his. All reason for being is to stoke. I just sold it a little hard. I would say on the show when he said black lives matters coming for you literally your overselling it a bit at that point, kinds of kids. has handled in this forever. This is what made Tucker. Carlson is stoking white fear and angst so I. It's just another in a long list if you want if you WanNa, do yourself a favor today? Go Watch the old video of John Stewart, being a guest on crossfire back from two thousand and four, where he just rips that show apart that show was canceled within months of John Stewart being on it, because he just called Tucker Carlson out on his BS and same thing, he does today so. What does that Video Jack I wish that the cable companies would be like twitter and put like a little warning. Below certain shows. Say like all Fox News and You know if they can do a little bit of A. Back checking. Hate mongering checks and that would be. That'd be good. But I don't see that happening. Anytime soon, I I. Would I would I would see? That's the thing like we need more Jon Stewart types to go onto Tucker Carlson show and just annihilate them right there on camera. On his own show, the fact that he has the audacity to go and sit there and try to make it seem like the black lives matter. Movement is like the boogeyman coming to invade white America. Suburban White America is messed up. It's repugnant. Seeing that video. Makes me sick to my stomach. And I know that sounds a little dramatic. I don't give a damn. That's the kind of stuff that Y suburbia sees. They put it into their brains, and then they automatically our fear. Fear. Black people they fear anybody. That's they see. Where's a? I can't breathe shirt or a black lives matter t, shirt or anything holding assign the automatically think that they are the enemy, and that's the thing you are creating a rift. You are creating a divide. You are helping with the divide instead of helping merge. You cannot tell me. That like this is Tucker Yoyo Tuk? Tuk Iota Dog TC was good. Let me ask you something man. You can't tell me. That the things that you saw in that viral video. You can't tell me that that stuff was okay. You can't tell me that what's going on outside. Where people are. Protesting is unjust. Not every place. Not every city is out here. Burning buildings and looting and rioting. You're making it sound like we're trying to. You're making it sound like the black lives matter. Movement is out here, trying to rape and pillage. That is far from the truth. If you see somebody like Mitt Romney and other white people that are standing standing with us in solidarity. That's showing that there's something going on. It's not about violence and mayhem. You're basically having people. Go outside or stare out their windows. Fear feared for their lives holding their ar fifteen in white suburbia. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. That's not how it's supposed to be period. Period. You have no right to say what you're saying. Man. You should not be using your platform like this man. You are fear. You are a fear monger. How dare you meant? That stupid. Tom. I mean again I mean. It's Tucker Carlson's bread and butter. It's what he's always done. He's always been a fear monger. That's why he's on Fox. News which is a fearmongering channel word I mean you WanNa talk about black lives. Matters is coming into suburbia. Black lives matter protesters Saint Charles over the weekend, I think white people are still okay in Saint Charles. Today, I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure that protested and. Say I mean. I if you want to warn people that black lives matters come to their community. Yeah, maybe it does come into your community and it should be peaceful. But This idea that you know they're coming for you is just. That's old school old school racism right there. That's the old school. Black people are coming for you. They're coming into your lily white neighborhood. A look out I mean that's the old school. That's old school racism. That's the stuff that you that's the quiet part. You don't say out loud anymore. Tucker Carlson. She's. That stuff that is the stuff that really exists. He said those things, but the funny thing is the sad thing is. Is that there's a lot of people here. That are thinking exactly what he's thinking right now. Candice Owens Anyway. Teamwork makes the dream work. Son Fortunate. But if you're if you're looking to see Chris Tucker crawls, get put in his place. seriously. Do yourself a favor? Find that video of John Stewart on crossfire with Tucker Carlson. Watch set today. It's one of the most beautiful. Beautiful videos ever put out yet. I saw this morning. It was crazy. It was absolutely crazy man. And, it was great. It was hilarious. It was definitely needed. Definitely definitely needed, so let's go onto some other news. Real quick I know that there is across fits. owner. The creator of Cross fit just lost a huge endorsement. From Reebok because of a tweet a very very. INSENSITIVE INSENSITIVE tweet. Thank you for so much Jack. I needed that I needed to find the word. Not Everything can be racist all the time, right? Insensitive tweet. He went to his instagram, he went to his twitter. I forget his name. What the what the Hell's that man's name? Greg Glassman Gray glassman, so grey Gla- Gregg or Greg, Greg. Glassman Greg glassman was on his twitter. He tweeted something very simple just to just basically one word two words if you will is said Floyd nineteen. And twitter win ablaze so much that people reported obviously sent a tweet out to reebok to basically say hey, you guys need to investigate this. Because this is some racist racist stuff. There's a racist tweet and Reebok ended up. Walking away from cross fit, and if you don't know if you've been living under a rock, or if you just don't work out, you don't lift any dumbbells. Crawford has been a huge movement all throughout the country all throughout the world. I mean there's cross games. There is some serious cross fitters out there. That are across for life all day every day and one of their main sponsors for all their clothing. All that is Reebok. It's like. It's like Nike saying goodbye to Jordan's. It's crazy. Reebok literally backs the cross fit. Games cross fits genre in the cross. It movement now that they are splitting up with cross fit. This very big news Tom. Yeah. Tweet came out there. He was responding to a tweet from the Institute for Health Metrics and evaluation. Their twitter account. said that they classified racism and discrimination as a public health issue. And that's when glassman in response. CL-. It's Floyd nineteen. You know obviously a reference to covid nineteen. So obviously very insensitive upset, a lot of people in yeah. Reebok has ended its ten year partnership with. Cross ten. Years Y'all sorry ten years. SAR for ten years. Okay, but you could see in with cross fit. You can see across it. I'm not surprised that glassman said this, not at all cross is very. I'm sorry, but it gives off that Monica vibe. It's all day America all day all day every day, so I'm not surprised. glassman made that tweet real talk I'm not surprised you. And would you be surprised at? glassman issued an apology. Would you like? Baby, did he make an apology sure? This is great. Man? Seems like we do this every day. was somebody something really dumb and saying Oh i? Didn't mean that thing. I said twelve minutes ago and it's. Funny like every day. There's some sort of white person sitting there going. I'm sorry I love black people. We. Look my is. You can see him sincere. I'm so bizarre drew brees I'm I'm I'm channeling. Some drew brees sorry. But. Anyway go ahead this hilarious. I, Cross headquarters and across fit community will not stand for racism. I made a mistake by the words I chose yesterday. My heart is deeply saddened by the pain. It has caused. It was a mistake, not racist but a mistake. I don't know for him to say it's not racist racist. Not Racist but I still want secure the bags. I'm not a racist, but I have to say sorry because I wanNa make sure I secure the bags. Sorry. But I need secured the bags. And I, don't WANNA lose Reebok. It's all good new balanced looking for some people to endorse. That'd be safe. He imagined all cross-fitters running around in and dad's shoes. Dad's numbers. I'm just saying you know what I'm saying. You know for a fact. It's the new balance that are the ones that are are standing grass. You know what I'm saying that the grass stains shoes that you use only when you're cutting the grass. You know you don't really rock new balance when you're going out trying to get laid to San. I'm just saying. Keep them fresh and clean, and you know you might be able to accomplish anything in pair of new balance. Hey, man, anything's possible. You can do anything if magic made it, but I'll say this to. Though no one or I would I would love to see what sneaker company. Backs Cross it from this point on. I can feel this one. Go ahead. It'll be new Fox News shoe the. New Fair and balanced that. Is, something. I love you. But but at the same time they're. They're untouchable right now at least for a little bit. You know unless they get an endorsement or a workout. Some partnership deal with somebody and they fly under the radar. They do arrive when some other catastrophe happens. The go guest sign real quick. We now got deeds. You know what I mean on. We now got. To get what I did. US Yes, addidas. Interesting. It's funny how he's quick to go I'm so sorry. Don't don't defend that it was it racist. When a company leaves you ass because they believed it was racist to say what I said was wrong and I'm sorry. And then hopefully you can go back to secure the bags, but there's a lot how. Fake apology and come back and start spending more money with exactly, but there's a lot of cross fit boxes as they call them. They're basically gyms. That have now try now trying to disassociate themselves with cross fit altogether. Because of this particular tweet, he destroyed his entire organism, his entire company and everything that he's been building for for ten years. In one small little tweet. How dumb do you have to be to do that? I can answer that real time. Any. Candice, Owens might set up a go fund me for him. Exactly, but then it would be suspended because an. Only. Hate mongering and and being behind all this the racism in anti-bullying Lola. You know what I mean. You know what she can do is go to fund anything DOT COM. The trump backed. Campaign Fund. Who are you can find anything? She liked turning into the Santa clause of racist this like. You said some races. Here's a whole bunch of money, but here here's here's some funny though. Santa Claus Real. She is, there's a difference. Hang on San. Vessels already ruined. Santa Claus for my kids, so don't worry about it. A man? Oh, A ten of the! I'm done with you. Man Tanto Vein just said I wonder if the military will stop supporting, cross it now, and that's a very good question, too, because I know that there's a lot of military branches a lot of. Armed. Forces branches that are starting to get behind. The black lives matter movement. The whole nine so I'm interested to see that, too. You know that's a good question because a lot of their all of their. Not all, but a good portion of their exercises in their workouts and stuff are. Named after fallen soldiers, you know like the Murph so on and so forth. You know there's a lot of. I've done them billions billions of them. Building those exercises. But, yeah apparently. Yeah. I'd love to see what they say. I would wear. Somebody said lacks paint set. Out where the new balance Bounces, just give my friends a chance. I bet the owner is going to be like. We're just going to rename everything's GonNa. Be Criss Cross fit. To be right incident the black humor. Criss crossed it so then all their clothing is backwards, and they're just the jump. Jump the Daddy Meko. Mak- you know what I'm saying. I missed the bus. We're talking about a deep cut son, you know what I'm saying. You know. It's the Bob. I bombed Hiroshima come on now. You Crisscross Komo in that everything's Criss Cross applesauce. All the buildings backwards. Yeah, yeah, everything has a hip hop theme. Instead of every exercise has named after a soldier. Omit those and replace them with fallen. RAP ICONS! that. Be Genius actually if you think about it. The elected to park. Like that the biggie. You see what I'm saying. No, yeah, he'll. He'll just do it for black history month though. Jesus. See now. That's racist. If it's only just for one month has got to be every every single month. Can't only be just one month. You know what I'm saying. Come on now. You gotta be fair up in this piece man. Don't get it twisted. Anyway. Let's move onto the next conversation. I'M GONNA throw it over to Tom. Yes. Well We've got a few few more stories here. Yeah we WANNA. Talk about. Florida that one's crazy Florida Florida yeah, let's talk about the Florida. Yet Florida is offering the Florida police. Florida Police Union is offering to hire cops who were fired or resigned over police misconduct. What's The F.? Is this breath? Come on and speak on. The brevard county fraternal order of police, twitter. Account tweeted out yesterday I. Think it was yesterday. That was on June. Sixth I said Hey Buffalo fifty-seven in Atlanta six. We are hiring in Florida lower taxes, no spineless leadership or dumb mayors rambling on press conferences, plus we got your back Hashtag. Law and order Florida Hashtag moved to where you are. Heart. Hashtag Sunshine. Florida's basically saying. Hey, if you're cop has been fired for misconduct, come on down to Brevard County and We'll be pleased as punch to have you. So you know. Again it's Fedex not like a conservative unions view of providing sanctuary. Say. May. Let me let me let me let me ask you guys something. Lou messed up. Got Into. Here. That's that's really want to say I. WanNa Curse Right now. It's really. Up? It's really mucked up. That's mucked up. Joe That is really mucked up, so you're telling me. All the bad cops can come to Florida. Because a safe down there. That don't make no sense man. This is they can stand their ground down there and not have to worry about it Florida police to show, they ass. They. They totally exposed but both but cheeks. They expose the hell out of there s. you can't tell me that that's okay. Nobody go to Florida. I ain't going to Florida anytime soon F that I. Don't WanNa die shoot. It is probably the majority that here in the EMS sunning going on. Account. Right! You know a lot of vitamin D E. But at the same time, no Florida No, no Florida. You don't say that stuff. You just expose yourself as much as they say. Oh, racism! Is it real and we don't do that kind of stuff? Why why would you go and bring all the bad cops over to you? Why are you? Why are you inviting dead? That's terrible. Wow Man. Yeah. It kind of blows a giant hole in the argument that what we're seeing with police is a few bad apples when you have the head of the brevard county for Colonel Order. Police the the union, saying hey, if you had ocsar misconduct charges that have. Ended your career and other cities come on down here and work for us. I mean. You, WANNA be able to say any situations that Derek Calvin and the other officers involved in that case are an aberration are an anomaly. But when you have. You know entire police department saying that they condone it when you have fifty seven. Buffalo police officers. Saying they're going to resign from the riot response unit. Because two guys that roughed up old man. We're rightfully disciplined. It really blows in our a hole in that argument. That we're dealing with just a few bad cops and that there's not a larger systemic rot going on there. Has Trump tweeted it. He sees he's tweeted a lot of different things a as of late. He did. He did say something in regards to the seventy five year old man. But They said that they say that he was. He says that he he was pushed, but then he he tripped him on himself. He tripped on himself and he said that. He said this in a tweet that. The man was trying to scan an. Their stuff. So that he can have like surveillance or something crazy like that, it was it was some wild, but he was saying that. The seventy five year old man was trying to do some. Something technical. Yeah. I'm actually going to look this up because it was really it was my blowing. Hold on I'M GONNA I'm GONNA find it. I'm pulling up a thing from the Florida. Impress right now. For the Democrats. Funding. the police are supports defunding police. DISENTIS stocks have hurricane season of. Trying to see the thing, there's something about looking up to see if he retreated about Florida. Union. I do have the tweet about the seventy five year old man real quick. Okay, so this is the tweet that he said he said Buffalo protesters shoved by police could be an ANTIFA provocateur seventy five year old Martin. Gooch Gino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. I watched I guess own. He watched. He fell harder than he was pushed was aiming scanner. Could be a setup. You gotta be kidding me. Yeah I haven't seen that. I mean. If you watch that video. That guy's pushed very clearly by the guy the night stick. Oh Yeah because the seventy five year old beanpole. Fall exactly he's. He's GonNa. Fight hard. He's GonNa fall hard and he's seventy five years old. Let's say that again. The man is seventy five years old. He's seventy five years old. Breath why? Why would you tweet this literally? He was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. Where was he? Scanning? Said equipment with what he had a phone in his hand. I mean it looked to me like and this is the what people are saying is that he was trying to return one of the helmets that was dropped by one of the cops. You can see when he goes up there. He's got one of the cops helmets and his hands. I mean. Have you think that guy is a threat to you? The point where you got to be physical with him at all. Guess what you shouldn't be a cop at all. If, you're a seventy five year old man that looks like you're about one hundred and ten pounds wet. And you think that guy's a threat to you with your you know. How many weapons do they have on their belt between tasers and guns and billy clubs and bulletproof vests and. You'RE GONNA. Tell me this geriatric old man that was working with like a Catholic charity. That's that's your threat. Get Real. Unbelievable, man? Yeah, it's you. I have nothing to say upon that Thompson beautifully. A, real talk, get real. Also mourners gathered to pay tribute to George Floyd's funeral. They are. Live they are streaming. Live right now as we speak on on twitter. So the funeral is has commenced and is already inaction as we speak. Just a quick quick thing real quick for so anybody who's interested in paying their respects or being a part of the the funeral is streaming. Live on twitter right now. I'm sure it's streaming all over everywhere right now to be completely honest. So yeah. What were you saying Jack? You were looking at a tweet. Re tweeted about the police. You couldn't find anything on there. But. He's been going on a little rant on. What else new? He's angry like I. said his his approval ratings ratings have gone down, so he is. He's philandering philandering. He's. What's the word. What's the word? Why am I forgetting worse today down? A piece floundering. Trying to say like he's he's. He's desperate. Basically, saying is that he's desperate right now. He is basically trying. He's trying to grab onto anything. And and try to get re regain some of his popularity back, you know. Now, there's also speculation that he might take out to speaking of trump real quick. There's speculation that he might put out the vaccine early. Without actually getting it properly tested just so that he can get his approval rating back up as well so remember there was cove it remember those Kobe nineteen out here and. There's a lot of people. Thank you enemy flailing. Thank you. That's what I was trying to say. Flailing lacks thank you. Thank you. The, he's fleas flailing. But at the same time he there's speculation that he might put out the vaccine early. Just so he can make. Just before election so that he can get. Some of the his approval ratings back up so he can get the love back. Which is? Him Flailing Can he legally do that. I don't know I, I would. I would imagine any vaccine would have to pass through rigorous FDA. You know. I just don't think he, can he? Does this a lot real say I'm going to do this or I'm going to do that as you don't have any legal ability to do that whatsoever he. Frequently will go out and say things that make them sound like a dictator, and then like five minutes later people were like hey, calm down. He can't actually do that. Doesn't have a legal avenue to do that like well. Actually. No, you can't do that at all. What are you talking about? Actually. Tapped on the shoulder. He can't do that, too, so you? Can you tell him because I don't want to get fired. Tell them really quick. No, you tell. We remember how we're. GonNa leave the WHO. And the World Health Organization and now. But it's actually talked about. But because we didn't have the ability to pull out like. At his own discretion. There's limits to what our president can do. Who Knew? The idea though I, mean I'm seeing I. You know I hadn't heard about this conspiracy theory that trump's pushing a against that seventy five year old protester. In Buffalo and I don't mean to laugh because that guy is still in critical condition, and what happened to him is absolutely sickening. He's not trying to jam their police communication I mean get. Real. They're just saying that. This guy was like heading up the vandalism. He works with a Catholic charity. He's a seventy five year old peaceful. UH-HUH I mean. It looked to me like he's trying to return an officer's helmet and he. Looked like at one point. He may be tapped one of the cops with his cell phone. And, then basically eight just went ballistic. He's a seventy-five look at the guy here. Look at him. How do you think that guy's GonNa fall if you push them with a night, stick? And he looks like he's on frigging still my guests hard. Yeah, he's GonNa fall, hard. Yeah and he's ready to break. because. He's seventy five years old and timber. You'RE GONNA. Be like. Fall. which which timber you talking about cash timber? Yeah, I had a feeling you were going to go to for that. She's e Ish. But. Yes, moving on. Something a little bit more lighthearted magazines Legend Out Jeff Jaffe. Retires at age ninety nine. Let's talk about that really quick. That's crazy nine years old. Ninety nine. And if you've if you've seen, you grew up on mad magazine I certainly. Did you know I'm most? Bre Is my consolation prize for going to the grocery store with my mother. She by me a mad magazine. But. If you remember mad, Magazine's. They had the the final phase of it was the fold in where it'd be like one image, and then you'd fold the paper and. A different image that would answer a question. He was the artist that did those. If you've ever enjoyed those fold INS in mad magazine. That was Al Jaffee. Best Oh that that's incredible. Yeah so I mean he's obviously a legend in the cartoon world. I mean. Just as a person, myself would get mad magazine if it was a you know a dud of an issue. You always had that back page to go to. There was always something interesting and that was like. You know for me. When I was ten or twelve, that was high art. That was like how did how did he make it do that I? Mean that was the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to me was like those back pages of bad magazine, yeah? He's retiring ninety nine after fifty six years nine, zero nine I. Mean What what blows my mind is that he was able to keep a steady hand for that long. You know up until his. The Ripe Age of ninety nine. That's amazing. You know and what he did. What he contributed to the mad magazine to Mag- magazine, and that whole thing I, mean man. I grew up with that stuff too so huge. Thank you. I mean shoot I love that stuff I loved Magma mad magazine shoot. My my parents were not cool with it because they thought it was too risque growing up, so it was like I had to hide to read that and cracked cracked magazine member cracks. Yeah, man. I used to read that stuff like crazy. He used to love that stuff man. So yeah, huge shot to Al Jaffee. Ninety nine years old retiring. The longest working. Comic Book Artists Ever. That's incredible. That's so dope. All right moving on to the next thing real quick. IBM! Exits facial recognition business. Calls for police perform. What's dismaying? Yeah, I guess. IBM had been involved in some facial recognition software. But they are now saying that they are exiting that part of their business, which admittedly was not it was? It was not really performing for them, but they're shutting that down. Saying that, they don't. That they oppose using any of that such a software for purposes of mass surveillance and racial profiling, so they're. They're afraid that it's going to be used for mass surveillance racial profiling I. think initially they set up their businesses you know the facial recognition thing for more professional back end stuff for security reasons. Scan your face. You get in the door or whatever? But. I think they're seeing the way. It's being implemented. Maybe not so much here in the United States yet, but certainly in China. You can see you know. They've got their social credit system and they've been using facial recognition. To you know, pinpoint who some of the protesters are in Hong Kong. So Ibm? You know granted. This wasn't a very profitable profitable department for them. But they are going to shut down their facial recognition industry. Wow Abbott statement here that letter that wrote to Congress so the responsible technology policies, technology, increase, transparency and help police protect communities. A must not promote discrimination or racial injustice IBM no longer offers general purpose IBM, facial recognition or Hausa software IBM firmly opposes, will not condone uses of any technology glean facial recognition technology offered by other vendors for mass surveillance, racial profiling violations of basic human rights and freedoms or any purpose, which is not consistent with our values and principles of trust and transparency, who believe now is the time to begin a national dialogue on whether and how facial recognition technology should be employed by domestic law enforcement agencies. Well said. Well said so yeah, you know I've heard things to that There's been a lot of issues with the. Actual facial recognition stuff because it works very very well and white people. Does not work very well and people of Color. And that that was has been a concern that's been brought up to the graders of them saying that they that the people using it want to be able to have a better overall You know individual recognition software. And, so which sounds like it would lead to profiling. Man. Well you know I think that. Facial recognition is. I can see the good and the bad on both sides. Of course like I always say I. Try to stay I try. To stay on the fence on certain matters. But I could see. Invasion of privacy, but then at the same time that could stop. Certain things from certain people from doing bad things, or you can catch people so on and so forth, but at the same time then nobody's safe. No one is safe and that sucks. You know no one is. The freedom of life freedom being able to go anywhere you want is. Taken away completely. If you're just facial recognition everywhere, that's terrible. So yeah. But I like I do really do. I really do appreciate their their statement. You know I think it was a very good and well thought out statement for sure. You know. Yeah it's it's good to see. It's good to see a corporation like this. Take a positive stance. Right I mean it seems like so like. Hey, if the money's there, we'll do anything no matter how immoral by. Ibm I mean, and they didn't just shut it down. That's the other good thing about this. You know I I don't know. What IBM. The rest of their corporate policy is but. It was nice to see them say we're not just shutting this down. We're going to say that you know. We're going to say that this shouldn't be used you know we're going to. Draw a line in the sand and say here's. We don't. because. I mean look what's happened in China facial recognition I mean. It's full on one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty four over there. So it's good to see him, not just shut down their own thing, but say hey. Nobody else should be doing this either. That's. Above and beyond at least far as corporations go. Yeah, Razor Razor Ramon said malls and public transport will use it for racial profiling for sure. Absolutely like I said it would just be like I said there would be goods and bads. There'd be some good, and there may be some. And see more Hella. Bad than I do see good for sure. You know. So yeah. So short crazy apparently. What? Sorry I'm looking at this I'm reading some comments down here the. Thing that yes, something like the NYPD press conference is going on. They're doing a press conference talking about the The police officer that had shoved one of the peaceful protesters, and she. Shoved the ground into I guess I don't know if you hit her head or not. Getting having a seizure and had some other medical things happen but they're talking in this press conference about the Brooklyn district. Attorney said in a statement, I fully support the long-held American tradition of non violent protests I cannot tolerate the use of excessive force against anyone exercising constitutionally guaranteed right this especially true of those who are sworn to protect and uphold the law I'm deeply troubled by his unnecessary salt will now seek to hold this dependent accountable. I'd so I think he has been charged with assault. And Mayor De, Blasio and NYPD BRASS ARE SACRIFICING COPS to save their own skin the police union, said they created the failed strategy for managing these demonstrations. They simply out to do the job with no support, no clear plan that should be the ones facing this mob rule justice. We'll say it again. New York City a police. Officers will have been abandoned by her own leadership. So it sounds like there is a clash going on between the Police Union there and the rest of the government. Interesting in New York City in New York City interesting. Interesting. Yet we did. Did we see one of the chief of police? Take a knee. In New York City. Interesting the to step. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about you talking about the Kansas City Shuffle Kansas City Shuffle. Which I say all the time. Yes, that is very interesting. Ahead go go ahead. Go ahead. I mean again. This is I mean. This woman was pushed to the ground hard. Jude suspect concussion. She got hit. Sorry me. Say you thing in the second. She got hit so hard. That dude sent her sailing. She was she went sailing. Hit the back of her head. She fell hard man. She had a seizure. GO I. Keep hearing an our police union in in Saint Louis has a frigging nightmare also, but still looking at where there's actually a separate black policemen's union because the white, the regular one is so darn racist, but anyway yeah. Yeah, but these police unions I mean between Brevard county saying they're gonNa hire all the fired cops, and then this police union and Nypd saying you know trying to defend this this cop that. Broke. A woman's had opened gave her a seizure. It really undercuts the argument that we're dealing with a few bad apples. There is real wrought in the American police in most cities it seems like. There's this rock. That needs to be cleared out and Minneapolis for their part is gonNA rebuild it from the ground up? Obviously is pretty controversial, but it's not without precedent happened in Camden New Jersey crime rates in Camden New Jersey of fallen by like half. Restructured their police department. So. What. makes my blood boil every time I see. These police unions come out and defend this sort of behaviour, because it just blows a Canon size hole in the argument that it's a few bad eggs. It's leadership structures from the top down. Trickled Down Academy Hey. Interesting. I think. The fact that they're saying. That? One I'm happy that the the. The COP is being like obviously is going to. Face charges. But I think is interesting that where I think it's very interesting where they try to find. Any excuse under the sun to throw the blame somebody else. To scapegoat. Rather than to take full responsibility. Of what's going on now that they're saying? Oh de Blasio's is trying to throw the you know the officers in the police department, The New York, the NYPD under the bus when it's like no the. You guys are the bus yourselves. You guys driving over yourselves yourselves. But! Yeah I'm just I'm sorry. I'm. I'm a little. I'm a little surprised. that. There's such A. Such an issue in New York. Of all places. With this when I feel like it. I would expect Miami and I guess you know. Maybe it's me being me living in New, York for so long, and and having the love half four New York in general. I guess I was expected New York to be a little different. Their response to be different you know, and and be one of the people not saying to fund the police, but saying hey, we need change we need to reform. So. It's very interesting to see that they. Are are different. Do you know what happened that whole. The Blue Lives Matter that started in new. York it became a nonprofit called blue better NYC very starting, I forgot so to be honest I forgot about it. and. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely absolutely right. stop forget they head. Stop and Frisk. They're also. Yes, they did. Yes they did. Thank you Bloomberg. Now. Interesting, it is very interesting. Long Story Short, just a very interesting turn of events when it comes to that kind of stuff, and we're going to leave it at that right now and see what happens when the as things develop. 'cause that is interesting news obviously with the. NYPD and with their Prince Press, conference and everything and to John Harrison, who? Brought that up, so thank you and he's in. He's in Malaysia right now. So for him to sit here, give us that information. Damn son does on his stuff, man. I'm not. I'm not playing the John Harrison. He's he's on his stuff. Man and he just said NYPD have a long dark history, and you're absolutely right I keep thinking that you know I. Keep Associating New York with the NYPD and I've heard so many stories about the NYPD being so corrupt. I don't know why I keep putting myself in. Keep throwing them under a different belt or under a different. Category, but yeah you know I'm changed. My mind has been changed now. so there goes. Alex said police unions are the same all over. They will never accept responsibility no different in the UK. That's what's up, man. Yet you're you guys in UK. Your police officers don't have guns. That's the only difference. What's unfortunate? You guys have batons and. That's it really. I don't know how many other things you guys. The cops have in the UK. Definitely calmed down below lesson. Oh, do you guys have tasers? Is there more things mace? Do you guys have other things? Except or is it just batons. I'd love to know that. Mr T. twelve. What up man said NYPD along with the LAPD are two of the biggest legal gangs. On the or in the country, and that is very very true. You're right. I knew that about LAPD like I said I've never I never really put? I never really put nypd in that category, but I need to put them in that category now for sure you know. I've never really certainly I seen one eleven. They certainly garnered a lot of goodwill and right I'm rightfully so I mean, but but here's the thing I've seen more issues in Saint Louis with SEO PD than I've seen with the NYPD personally I'm just talking about personally. So. I don't know, but then again you know it's not like. It's not like I was sticking my nose into trouble in in New York City. You know so. I don't know you know what I mean. You're only doing that saint. Louis Oh, yeah mounds of cocaine. Nothing hookers and blow. You know what I'm saying. Stuff the Democrat great. You know what I'm saying. Surprise I still have all my teeth because of that meth man. That's sweet, sweet meth. Anyway, you. Let's go to this game. It's time for a little bit of a little thing. called. Cold Dust. going. Double Double Sorry Boo Boo. Hold on. I Will Pascal as a double fantasy a. you're welcome sweetheart anyway. It is definitely time for a little bit of this action camp. You, don't don't ruin the thing. Quiz. What is it ducts now? Okay Anyway, it is not for a little bit of pop quiz hotshot. We're GONNA. Play a game. We tried to do this yesterday but it. Wasn't working out. Unfortunately. Things kind of hit the fan, but hey, here's a little bit some fun a little bit of lightheartedness. Jack what is the game again? Real quick. All right, so we're going to do some famous scenes from from horror or scary movies. And you guys just got to look at the image and see if you can tell me what movie is from. Right on so and if you guys are watching, please play along common down below and see if you can beat me and Tom. Let's go. Away in a best I can be a good idea or I'll just be like. Oh, that's the greatest horror movie ever just Jackie. And then there you go frozen again. Did freezing in Yup. Hold on now. You're good now. You're good. You're good. Now's your alien. Yes! got that. That looks familiar, okay? All right and here comes the second one. Donna, the debt. Iraq. Remake sorry. On up the third. A chance or music that's. Slowing everything down. I could turn it down a little bit. Thing I am Met Computers being slimming image, and then too big or something yeah. That's what she said. Hey. Come on Amazon competitor. Is it really the music? Let me let me try. Let me let me turn it off. Let me see. Let me see if that that's what it is hold on. Images I got. They might think they'd be are too large. Damn near. That's making my whole. My whole thing can just in a freezer to course well, it wasn't on for a second hold on loan. Unless you! Do it like you describe the like you give us the Synopsis Of the movie and we get to blood in a girl's three mood. Pretty. From. Friday the thirteenth? Nightmare on ELM street. Halloween. No. You almost got him. Oh! Let's see here so near. It's finally opening up to me and put a new one. I'm going to see I. Don't know this is the missile okay. Right here comes. Okay comes see. Let's see, let's see. Might be the longest game. We've ever played no kidding seventeen hours later. It's like Oh my God. This game is the real heart movie. Let's see the pop up yet. No okay. Yeah you gotTa, Talk Got Exorcist. UNBEAR- here this Birkenau back. Okay, let's go. Let's go gonNA. Get this one. You might want to discuss it over to the side, so we can actually see the photos oh. That's disgusting. Thank you. Oh the exorcists and and. I know I'm playing. You were in the way he saw legs and he was like air their answers. That was a women a prayer. Hail Mira. Is Out. I should be out of the get out already, said it. Tom, Oh, you did. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay I'm GonNa get really aggressive now. Are you holding up a drawer? What do you do? What is good mood? I'm not in the way that was the ceiling. Think zealand-bred. GonNa shut down I'M NOT GONNA to see it in the so I'm GonNa shut down my chrome so that I don't have multiple things running okay, nobody cares see nobody cares. Let's play the. Nobody Cares Jack. Just play the game. Damage Jack Damn You Jack. Guy Come on. That one. Here is the next one. Okay. hellraiser rates hell raiser. Yes. Okay. Very quick. Faster now ahead of my chrome down all hereditary. Good job correct. What's good, L. Enemy? There was the worst ending though. It. One. Jaw. And I mean, that was both of us same time. You're saying there's delay. Misery Good Job Missouri Hey Thank you bye shining? Yeah, the shining. Sorry. Shining, we're not playing articles here. Shut your face Tom. Friday shoot. Soga. The first one. Is that the first one? Blue that that's a good one man good job. Jack. It's like we're looking at a porno. I don't know. Normal. That's paranormal activity. I don't know if I can just paranormal. Never heard of that one. Onto the next. Oh. Poltergeist wreck. That is good job man. That was a good one I didn't know. Wait hold a psycho psycho. Mr T. Twelve said he's never heard of Hereditary Homey Mr. Mr T. twelve pause for a second. You need to go see hereditary. It is a really good messed up creepy ass movie. Go Watch it. It's worth the watch. Trust me okay hereditary and block out like a couple of hours after it. Kinda get your stomach settled again. And and also also when you get done with it, go out into the sun. Just go outside into somewhere bright, because it gets really really creepy, but is a damn good movie anyway. Really really dark been good. Oh, I should've said dad but. This is not good with words. Sometimes anyway go. Psycho. The the thing the ring? Ring The ring no that's garage. Rosemary's baby could job Tom. Rosemary's baby. And See. I got seven more here. We'll loop through. Let's knock them out. Three? ooh! Me Same time down. Shimon. Chapter One! Well. It's it should be more specific chapter one. No be more specifically. What's the actual name of the original film? Stephen King's it correct. Oh, get the OUTTA here and other. It was like Oh. That's stupid. Shut Your Face Jack Yeah, yeah yeah, that's not the no, no, that's not the for whatever Texas chainsaw massacre. Whatever whatever that was that was that was the remake Bra. Yeah the. Very first one. That! I showed you this last one was Stephen King's it. No, it wasn't. Or was that was. Oh, wow, okay, my bad! I was wrong. Damn. Oh six cents. NOPE, no, not at all That is a throwback. They what? Three Little Pigs, three little pigs, three little pigs, three little pigs. Three Little Pigs. Somebody helped me. Baba Duke That was such a good movie. Oh, you need to see that movie. Breath so good Blair witch project. The Blair witch project. Last to. Annabel. No The conjuring yes down! But that is Annabel. Right! Okay! I'm wrong. Was the last one okay? l., the descent correct. I've never seen the descent. I have not either I've heard it's. Good. I think that's from like the actual like. Film cover so. Okay, you did it. Yeah, go. Yes, God is. Amazing you're amazing. Jack Thank you so much for that game was fun. We need like we don't do much lighthearted stuff. As of late because of all this crazy ish. That's been going on so I mean you know everybody needs to get on point? You know that the show has parts to only just talk about. Clashing political things that are going on in the world I'm you know we'd like to have fun too damn it. We like to laugh, too. We can wrap it up and birthdays and got some good ones. Up, here. If, we got some good ones, let's do it. Why not? Let's do it quickly. Though can we blaze? Six. Thank you. Let's do top six. Okay, then it is time for some birthdays. Some birthdays. We're out here in the world. You guys can hear that music right. Good, good. God is good anyway, so. Definitely calmed down below. He's going to be reading off some of the names on the Some of these describe some of these people who are celebrating their birthdays today celebrities, and so let's see if you guys can beat us. Let's go got calmed down below. We have this fifty seven year old from Owensboro. Kentucky is a movie actor who owns his own island He was Captain Jack Sparrow. Oh Johnny Depp correct. We have thirty nine years old today from Jerusalem Israel and this movie actress received an Academy Award for best actress for her role as Nina Sayers on the two thousand ten thriller Black Swan Now deportment. Oh, yeah! Today's birthday Oh. Yeah, turning fifty nine years old today from Edmonton Canada This movie actor is best known starring as Marty MC, block. Oh Michael J. Fox correct. Enjoy playing this game with you Tom I know. Sorry. Thirty. I'm reading some comments here. That are in We got address. These things really quick, so go go okay. I turned thirty two years old from Los Angeles. TV actress. As best known for Playing Amber Fulton NBC Series Parenthood. Or and veal in arrested development. O! Don't know. Is Mae Whitman. Yeah I don't know who that is. If he's face. You would okay. Last you here, we have fifty four years old today from Fort Worth Texas, this movie, actress and singer known for her role as Chorus Simmons Tyler Perry's film and Television series. Cheese has been in kingdom come and diary of a mad black. Does not help this Tamala man. Okay Middleman. Then the last night from Atlanta Georgia, turning thirty one years old today, this movie actress as known as a role to Sasha in Brats, the movie Brianna in Tyler Perry's meet the browns and Trina and brotherly love. She. Was Samantha White Netflix's dear white people. Oh I, know who she is I. Just don't know her name. She's the main character. I know exactly what it is, but at Logan Browning there we go. Thank you happy birthday to album celebrities out there and happy birthday everybody else. Getting some drive-by people singing happy birthday to out from the cars. or or you break the social distancing rules and he just. meet. Party anyway. You know spitting each other's mouths and eyes and stuff lick each. You know what I'm saying anyway. Real quick before you go before we head off. Enemy nation did put something up and I guess he feels like you, didn't you guys did not answer this question. Fully so I'm GonNa. Throw it out because I. don't want him thinking or I. Don't want anybody thinking that the questions on. Under the chats are not addressed or that. We're going to avoid them as much as we can. So I'm going to read this really quick. Please ask Jack and Tom to answer my question of why the disparity in income levels between native blacks, an immigrant blacks, Jamaicans, Hatians Nigerians, Ethiopians and Dominicans I guarantee. They can't answer it truthfully without being racist by their own definition of racist. So I'm leaving it up to you guys. Go? Well I mean it's a little above. My pay grade here is to. Figure out why there's Why that if that disparity exists why it exists? I. Don't know I a white guy I don't really know I. Don't know what the full black experiences of black Americans as opposed to immigrants of African descent I couldn't begin to answer that I have no idea. I would imagine. I have no idea. Okay. Everybody's different maybe. I maybe growing up in some of those countries. A different experience than growing up in America I have no idea. Maybe the people that are coming from those countries. Maybe, they are people that have the means to immigrant to immigrate, maybe already have the financial means to leave their home country and go to another I. really don't know it. It's not. A. I. I really couldn't tell you I don't know. I mean everybody's experiences different. Yeah. And that's as good as answer. I can give I really. Hey, I know that what he's saying is true. I don't know that African you know immigrants of African descent to financially outperform. African Americans that were born in America I have no idea I I don't really know how to answer though. Yeah like the only thing that I can think of is. That's gotta be. Based off of schooling and the school opportunities that have been changed, and then also the familial setup so like again. I kind of mentioned that before about whether or not. You're raising a one family. Situation, or to you know system. I. Again I don't know I don't know what I right answer is. Exactly the time I got on no. Extent of it. but I'm sure that you know if there's a system that's been set up in place here that and furthers the in the poverty level levels of people and. If someone more setup financially to come over here to immigrate. I maybe that gives them a heads up. I don't. I don't want to be racist to answer the question. I'm not trying to be racist. Answer question. I don't know My own definition of racism is I think it's the same as everybody else's. The. I hope that you know there's chances and opportunities to everybody, but obviously that's not how it is You know so I I. Don't know why there's such a disparity level doing it. You gotta look at everything else. It's not I don't think it's a one. Easy answer there. It's the entire upbringing of who you are and your family, and what has been brought down upon your family for generations, and then what situation currently in where you raise the how the the laws leading are in affect you directly, and there's an the entire society and societal cultural changes is how it affects everybody, but there's going to be your coming from one culture to this culture, I imagine there's differences and whether it's financial or family, family or education. That GonNa add into all that. I did go ahead go ahead. Did you see where enemy nation you know then said, but you have no problem explaining systemic racism just about the. Yeah well. Yeah, because there are definitely things you can point to Jim Crow era power structures that are still in place today. I can't speak to the black experience. I can't do that. That's well outside of my ability to say. Here's what black experiences for black people born in America and here's what it is for immigrants of African descent. I can't speak to that. I don't know that experience. But what I can do is say okay. Well there, these power structures that were put up after the end of slavery that are still in place today that a lot of people don't even realize started with Jim Crow. So. Yeah I'll talk about systemic racism. Because is something I can look at and read about in. Inform myself on. But, you know what the what is like growing. UP BLACK IN AMERICA I. I don't know what that's like, right. No. Is there a difference of comparing the to who the poor whites versus European immigrants that come over and are successful I mean. Is there any kind of a line that can be drawn there to? Show, the same thing that immigrants have some difference of opportunities or anything like that I I I don't know. I mean an. Enemy nation is trying to make. Is that systemic racism doesn't exist I? Don't really know where to begin with that argument because it does. I don't know where to begin with that. Arguing right and it's like saying the sky isn't blue right. Right and that's the thing I think that. It is a very good question, or it's a very good very good topic to bring into a discussion. A little bit later on I. think that you guys answered in the best of your abilities right now like on the on the spot. That kind of thing, but the thing is is that I also feel that no offense to enemy. You know love your brother that I feel like he's trying to get you guys to squirm a little bit. And that's totally fine. That's totally fine I. mean shoot. That's what happens on on this show all the time you know. I squirm a lot. But it is. He? He does pose a lot of really good questions. That I think that we can talk about on the next show. You know we can definitely talk about this more in more depth, the next show for sure. So anyway. Hopefully, we were able to answer some of the questions is still throwing out questions after question. There's nothing wrong with that. We encourage it all day long. We're here to have the debates and have the conversations, but unfortunately we got gotta wrap the show up it is that time unfortunately. But we have got to get going. I WANNA. Say A big. Thank you to my my my boys, thank you. John John. Thank you, Jack, and Tom Yum. Jacket Tom Thank you so much for being on the so today. Guys as always you guys. My brothers I love you guys, so thank you so much for being on, thank you. and of course I will be on a little bit later on this evening. Seven PM Central Standard. Time, of course, thank you, everybody who came on to check out the show and all that stuff enemy. Thank you so much for the questions. Thank you so much for calling in and throwing two cents. I will be on at seven PM Central. 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Twitter Targets Dave Plus a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT & OFFER | DIRECT MESSAGE

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Twitter Targets Dave Plus a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT & OFFER | DIRECT MESSAGE

"The all right people this is it. This is my last livestream before officially going off the grid for all of august. It is true that tomorrow is technically. The last day of july tomorrow is july thirty first but it is a saturday. So i'm getting a bonus day tonight at midnight. That will be it. I'm wrapping up a couple things today. Obviously some livestream doing some stuff on an later on fox on newsmax. Couple other media hits. It's a big bay. And then i disappear off the grid. No phone no tv news. No current events bill. Twitter trolls no buts. No nothing in many ways. This is the very moment right. Now that i sort of plan for the entire year we bust our butts. Obviously not only here. At the ruben report but everything we're doing with locals dot com. We work real hard throughout the year to do this. And by the way not just me go and fully off the grid. Obviously david's coming off agreed with me but my team gets to relax and unwind. We've got some projects that everybody is going to be doing. But i try to do this. So that all the people that i work with and who work for me are able to relax to enjoy life to enjoy the summer to get a little mental space a little little physical restoration. So i'm incredibly excited. You know this is obviously a very weird year to be doing it because the news of the last few days and now with impending seemingly impending lockdown coming in so much more. It's like who the hell knows what's going to happen. By the time. I get back in september but i want a couple announcements. We are going to do a two hour livestream today. We're not doing any news. We're going to do some qna. I wanna talk to you about my new book. Which really is. That's the real thing of the day and some locals announcements That i've been teasing but something absolutely insane happened last night. I suspect most of you know about it already. But i got into the news accidentally because i told the truth and the thing is if you tell the truth in time of lies the powers that be. Don't like that very much so last night. I was on Hannity although judge janine was guest hosting for sean i was on it about halfway through the show and we were actually talking about the southern border. And what's going on down there. And i said something to the effect of you know bowl basically because we have a democratic administration. It's like what was bad under. Trump is now good under them but the bigger issue is that the media just won't cover it right because we see now if you're online you're seeing it all of these people just wandering through our southern border. Some of them have masks some of them. Don't they're not even from mexico which it's obviously are mexican american border. Many of them are from haiti and all sorts of other countries. They're not social distancing. It turns out that lots of them actually do have cove. There was another report yesterday. That about fifty thousand people have all been sent into the country. They're going all over the place and they're supposed to report back to ice but guys you're not going to believe this they're not doing it. Only about twelve percent or so are actually reporting back dies so anyway i was saying that you know in in effect because we have a democratic administration with the mainstream media. That's all lefties and democrats liberals whatever you wanna say Fueled by big tech that we just can't get anything. True true information cannot get out there. That's in effect. What i said when i was on air with judge gene and then when we got off air connor my director. Here handy my phone. And i looked down and i was locked out of twitter so the adventure began. So why was. I locked out of twitter. Well why don't we pull up the first image here twitter. Here's the yeah okay. So we're going to do it that way. So here's the message that i got from. Twitter is what you're seeing on the left. We've temporarily limited some of your account features what happened. We've determined that. This account violated the twitter rules specifically for. And here's the key part violating the policy on spreading misleading and potentially harmful information related to kobe. Nineteen okay so come back to me real quick so before i read you the tweet. Obviously what i was talking about. Judging wasn't specifically related to code it was ansel early related to covert right. Because we're letting all of these people and they don't have mass does social distancing. We're told that there's a pandemic and we're sending throughout the country. So maybe that's spreading a little bit of covert. I'm not a scientist. And i'm just a regular guy i don't know But then they linked to the tweet that i had sent out earlier in the day. And i'm going to read the tweet for you and you tell me if i'm spreading misinformation with this tweet they want a federal vaccine mandate for vaccines which are clearly not working as promised just weeks ago. People are getting in transmitting cova despite the vaccination plus now they're prepping for booster shots a same society would take a pause. We do not live in a sane society. When i saw that message. Then you have two options. Twitter gives you two options. One option is you can just delete the tweet and then you're in twitter timeout for twelve hours and they actually give you a countdown clock like you're about to launch a nuclear weapon. You can do that or they say you can fight it. You can submit another form to fight it but they don't give you a timeframe on when that might happen now. Because i knew the today was obviously a huge day for us. Because i'm debuting my new book which we're gonna get to in just a moment and because it's my author livestream. I didn't want to risk just being in twitter. Purgatory because these companies have extraordinary power over us our ability to communicate with each other So i clicked the delete tweet. But i was not happy about it because what i said in. That tweet was absolutely true. So how do i know it's true. Or how do i know it's acceptable narrative at the very least. I'll put aside true for a moment. Well i went back in. I went back into the internet. And i got headlines from usa today and from cnn and from washington post all saying the exact same things that i said in that tweet yesterday. So i what i said was they wanna federal vaccine mandate for vaccines which are clearly not working as promised a few weeks ago. Usa today yesterday. An american tragedy biden offers incentives mandates to get ninety million holdouts to vaccine and there is video yesterday of biden talking about whether the justice department is gonna have to look into. Whether you could do a federal mandate federal vaccine mandate. Okay so number one. My first point absolutely true. The second point was that vaccines are not working as promised just a few weeks ago. Washington post yesterday. Walter ornstein associate director of the emory vaccine center said he was struck by data showing that vaccinated people who became infected with delta. Shed just as much virus as those who are not vaccinated so the vaccine not working as promised. That's all i said. We've got a scientific saying in the washington post and then finally i said they're prepping us for booster shots. Now we notice. Everyone's talking about this now that in a few months after you get your second jeb. They're gonna want you to get another people are even talking about. Would they wanted to get monthly jabs. Or what else is going to happen. We'll cnn pfizer. Data suggests third dose of covert one thousand nine hundred vaccine strongly boosts protection against the delta various. Yes so they want you to get booster shots. Not only was everything that i said in that tweet true but the end of what i said we pull my original tweeting for just a sec. The end of what i said was a same society would take a pause. We do not live in a society. The reason i wrote it that way was. I am trying to deescalate the madness. I think you guys see what i do on this show. I've actually basically at this point. Devoted my entire life to is de escalating. The madness trying to clarify some of the confusion trying to sift through the lies etc etc. That is what i am trying to do here. I'm not trying to do much more than that. I could get that done. That would be pretty good. I think that would be retirement. Where right So the idea that. I was spreading misinformation. If i'm spreading misinformation. Well then you gotta ban cnn you gotta ban washington post and you've got banned usa today. I'm not really against those things But that's what you would have to do now. A beautiful thing happened when i got that Email saying that. I was suspended. I created a tech company. Did you guys know about that. I created this company called locals dot com and we have several hundred thousand people. In the ruben report community. That are that are not all paying members. You obviously have to pay a couple of bucks if you want to interact with all of our content. We have many thousands of people that are doing that. But i was able to them livestream directly from my phone i was able to send push notifications to people. I was able to live chat with people. And that's what. I've been talking about this entire time that we need off-ramps they could take any of us out. You watching this on youtube right now. They could take on my account. They can take down your account you tweeting about. This can take you out. They can shadow ban you they can silence you etcetera etcetera so in many ways. What happened last night leading into today. Which is my big day of. The year is exactly sort of my life just kind of lining up in a in a sort of perfectly sweet and oddly perverse way i would say so i was able to communicate with all of my people which was really great or anyone that joins us at locals. Obviously then. I want to give a special shout at actually to some of the people. I started texting people that are still on twitter insane guys. Can you amplify this. I've been suspended. So i want to get a shadow to jack. The soviet who is huge. And kyle cashew and bridget fed izzy. And ron coleman and a bunch of the people that post millennial and melissa chan and a whole bunch of people that you know from this show that did actually promote what was happening to me that the that risk themselves putting screen shots out there because it's a risk to themselves. I appreciate people that. Stick their neck out for other people. I do for other people all the time. And it's nice to see when it's reciprocated Anyway i went to bed. I was banned from twitter. And i thought boy. This is sort of ironic. I'm about to go off the grid for a month that i'm getting banned from twitter the day before suspended from twitter the day before like this is kind of kind of fitting and by the way it also felt sort of like pleasant. I was like twitter's horrible. I talk about how horrible it is all the time. Like maybe the maybe maybe the good lord is sending me a sign. You know like maybe something's going on here then about an hour ago. You're not gonna believe this guy. So i was reinstated this morning. The twelve hours expired. The countdown hit zero. No no bombs went off. And then you're not gonna believe it pull up the image got this email from the twitter people and i'll read it for you. Hello we have restored your account and we apologize for any inconvenience. This may have caused. Twitter takes reports of violations of the twitter rules very seriously after reviewing your account. It looks like we made an error. Thanks twitter support. Wait a minute. Let me get that other piece of paper here before. Can we put up the original thing. That they said that i did i was it was misinformation. Could've been killing people but then we get the apology again. Well gosh darted. Looks like they made an error and not only did they make an error. But i've got the receipts to prove it. Cnn washington post usa. Today i'm gonna go off agreed with the terrible paper. That's what's gonna happen here today Anyway this is exactly why i created locals and this is just a special shout out to those of you that support me there This is just the beginning. I'm gonna make some announcements to local about locals in just a second but putting all of that aside because that is not why intended on doing this big livestream today and it was just a little wrinkle in time that that occurred right before our big day here The main reason. I'm doing this big livestream. Today is that because i'm going off the grid. Today we planned and plotted and arrange everything that my new book could be announced for pre sale today. So my new book are we gonna show. I'm gonna. I'm gonna there we go. There's an image my new book. Don't burn this. Country is available for presell. Now yesterday we were on locals. We had a couple people guessing what the title might be. We said don't burn than people at gas people. Thought this constitution some other stuff this youtuber etcetera etcetera. But my new book don't burn this country surviving and thriving in our woke. Dystopia is up for sale today. So what i'm doing today. The book will be out on april. Twelve twenty twenty two. The publishing world is just sort of a slow slog. We still have a little bit of editing. We're going do i actually. I'm going to change the intro to the book to talk about what happened on twitter. Because it's it's a perfect example of exactly what this book is about But what we're doing today. Is i want to sign book. Plates for every single copy bought today. If i have to go off the grid with a crippled hand if my hand at the end of the day. I got like the claw hand the i will be happy to do it. If we sell ten thousand copies. Today i will spend the rest of my day going through my sharpies and signing booklet. So you can buy the book right now for presell at don't burn this country dot com. That's going to direct you. To the penguin site where you can pick which retailer so you can do amazon barnes and noble et cetera et cetera. And then we've got a little form which is in this youtube description right now and all you gotta do is fill that out. Show that you bought the book. And i will sign the book plate for you today and are locals members as you guys know because i did a livestream exclusive to you guys this morning locals members are getting signed and numbered copies so anyone that joins locals today. I will also. I can do a signed and numbered copies. So this is the book plate. These are numbered down here. But if you don't wanna join us on locals your loss however don't burn this book Doper this country. You go to bring this book dot com. Do i think there's something going on over there by that one's pretty good but don't burn this country dot com by the book and then i want to sign as many as i can today and i'm i'm incredibly excited to be sharing this book with you guys. And as i said i'll i'll make a few little changes. I wanna change something at the at the top right now just because of what happened here But it really is the next step in some ways. I now see. Don't burn this thing as a trilogy right so we don't burn this book. Don't burn this country. What could be the next one. But i really am seeing it as a trilogy. Now because don't burn this book. What i did was layout with my beliefs are i. I believe i still believe this to this day. That might classically liberal principles the idea of individual rights and logic and reason and limited government and lazy ferrick what are thought of really as modern conservative principles because i also talk about Why belief is important as as an under guard for all of those things That is the right lens to look at a free society through and to build a free society. This book is about the things that you can do to make. Sure as the as the subtitle says that you can not only survive but thrive. I want people to survive. And thrive not just survived these lockdowns mask mandates and getting jabbed and being lied to all the time i want you to thrive in it because i've managed to thrive thankfully But it's not by accident. Maybe it's a little bit of luck but it's because i navigated this thing properly. I i made the right business decisions. I took risks and that really is what. This book is about being less. Reliant on the system being less reliant on big tech on big government on big pharma all of those things. That really is what this is all about. And speaking of being less reliant on big tech. I've also been teasing that. We have a couple big announcements related to local. So all of you guys know this. I started locals about two years ago because it was very obvious that big tech was coming for all of us it. What happened to me yesterday on twitter. The only reason they're sending me that email and retracting it is because i am popular enough. I have enough of a voice in essence to make a headache for them. Otherwise if i was just a random person i'm sure my account just would have been blown up period. They wouldn't have even done the twelve hours suspension. They would have just blown it up. We know that if you talk about certain things on youtube they can just blow up your channel immediately we had to censor part of our interview with president trump. I put up over at locals dot com so we all know that there are these huge problems and the problems are getting worse because mainstream corporate media and big tech. We know they're colluding with each other right. We know sakis own words not mine they. The administration is flagging posts for facebook violation of the first amendment. And i hope they get sued into oblivion sake also said that if you get banned on one thing you should be banned on also had twitter banned me yesterday instead of done this temporary suspension. Should i have been banned on youtube and facebook and everywhere else so it was obvious. Just obvious to me that i had to build something for myself and it's been a lot of work we've built absolutely everything ourselves. We own everything we wrote the code. It's all ours. We are working on all sorts of stuff related to decentralized storage payments. And all of the issues that you guys know about and no we have not solved everything but we have solved a lot of them and we are working on all of the other stuff. I promise you so that all being said i'm thrilled to finally be able to announce to you guys a couple of things right now so number one and this is this is the most important one you guys all know about rumble at this point. So rumble is really the only youtube competitor at this point. Okay this is where a lot of people are now posting their videos so that they aren't under the thumb of youtube censorship. Well we've been talking to for a long time. I really loved the team over there. Chris who's running the thing is just absolutely spectacular fully gets it at an idea level and a technology level and we've been working with him and the team there for quite some time. I'm putting a partnership together. And i am thrilled. I'm truly thrilled to announce that locals will be the official subscription partner of rumble so rumble. Which is where you put all your videos and it's got great search and they're not manipulating stuff and it is much more in line with my free speech values and i'm sure you are free speech values as well. Every single rumble creator will have a button so that they can create a local community so we are the subscription partner. So the goal. I'm telling you right now. We are coming for you. Big tech the goal is rumble will replace youtube. The goal is locals will replace patriotic and this is just the beginning. Rumble also has the infrastructure to allow locals to scale in the way that we want to scale. Because you wanna scale you want to just keep growing and growing and growing and growing and we've done a great job on our own but we're gonna we're going to tie those knots a little bit more and It's gonna be a beautiful thing. I have no doubt about it and just a couple of other things on the locals front we have. Tv apps coming soon apple tv roku tv. We're in beta testing my locals community right now. We've several members in there that are helping us beta tested but tv apps coming soon again to make less reliant on just oh if we get kicked off youtube earn a lot of trouble now. We can be on these. Tv apps as well. There could be more related to that. Stay tuned perhaps live streaming. Those things. My god is that doable holy cow. Also charlie kirk. You guys know charlie kirk turning point usa. He launched his local community this morning. And just in the last half hour or so. I've been given clearance on this one. Candice owens who changed the world probably like if you look at the top ten people from an american perspective who've changed the world they'll ask five years. Candice is in that group somewhere candice. Owens is now launching her locals community. I believe it will be up today. Maybe up in the next couple of days they were just working on some technical stuff but we are growing. We are growing fast. We're going to announce some other acquisitions. Just a lotta cool stuff. And i just thank you guys for helping me helping me just beyond this road to do this thing. We've got the right investors right now. We've got the right team. We built a team ourselves. It's awesome as we move the company down to down to miami so lots of things happening. Oh and i am told mad. Bad guys don't burn. This country is now number. Two in amazon's movers and shakers category. Can we get this thing to number one while. I'm doing a live stream. The book isn't even out till april. Let's show the powers that be. What is what okay. Let's get this thing to number one in movers and shakers already at number two. That's awesome the book that not even out for six months. Everybody everybody else that selling books that are out we pre self books are out here. Okay all right. So i'm going to do a bunch of qna right now taking questions. From ruben report dot locals dot com. You can jump in right now. You can download our ios app. You can download our android app at the google. Play store or you can just go on. Desktops ruben report. Dot logos dot com. I will answer all your questions. Happy to talk about the book. Happy to talk about locals. Happening to talk about the twitter nonsense happened to talk about going off the grid. Happy talk about the form on shooting ice. Three whatever you wanna talk about. That's what we're gonna talk about. So here we go guys. Bradford says i'm guessing that liberty's crown is what's burning on the cover of the book. How did you come up with that cover. So yes that is true. Can we wanna we throw the image right there that is liberties crowd and we had a couple different versions of this. That we were we were going for. The funny thing about the book is that. I actually originally wanted. Don't burn this country. Like when i when i fully agreed with penguin that i was gonna do another book immediately. I was like well. it was. Don't burn this country and then for a second and it was more of a joke. I was like well. Why don't we call it. Don't burn the store that this book is in because obviously the targets were burning and everything else but it was obviously a little wordy so then the next version was all right. Don't burn this book. Now don't burn this country. And as i said if this is the middle one if this is the empire strikes back of the trilogy probably figure out perhaps what the what. The final one will most likely be called. But then you know when you're when you're working with the big publishing house and the people that penguins have been great to us and a special shout out to my editor. Helen who as i said on the locals livestream. This morning probably knows me. Better than i know myself at some level and has really been instrumental. I can't overstate in in helping me. Piece this together and getting the ideas right and understanding understanding my voice. Even at times. When i'm writing something and i'm not even totally Totally sure where it's going. She can always kind of bought me in the right direction. But there's a big team there and you go back and forth you go back and forth about title you go back and forth about what the flames are going to look like and we had one version without the statue of liberty. We had one version where it was. The statue of liberty's torch in the flame was coming out of that. We had other versions all together. You know i really wanted the word dystopia or dystopia in the subtitle so it surviving and thriving in our woke dystopia i really liked the word thriving too because it's not just that i want you guys to survive. It's i don't want you to just get by right now. Too many people are just getting by. Just wake up and it's another day and you didn't do anything yesterday and you're not gonna do anything tomorrow. You didn't take any of that power back to yourself. You didn't go for that purpose. See that star in the distance. And and somehow i've done it kinda right. That's all. I would say on that kind of right. So those are the tools. I wanted to give you. I want you to. I want you to thrive in this freaking thing. But i wanted to word dystopia or dystopia in there because that's what it feels like like what would a dystopia in future feel like just in future would feel like tech companies. They can control what you say and when you say it and who you say to an administration that lies about absolutely everything the destruction of language right the erasure of history we remove aunt. Jemima we get rid of. Tv shows all of these things are exactly what dystopia and futures all any philip k dick movie book or watch any philip k dick movie. So that was that would really was the idea behind this. And and then we had a couple of other versions where it was going to be a little more of a dystopia and landscape and we were going to do a little sort of wave kind of the future. That never quite arrived kind of thing. But i just love this i i really. I really really love it there. It is and as i said guys it is up for presell little radio reset for you. I was a radio guy back in the day on the siriusxm go. Don't burn this country dot com. You can order from your favorite retailer whether it's amazon or barnes and noble whatever it might be and then we've got a link right down there. I want to sign book plates for you today. We've got them right here. Look at this. I'm signing while of live. Someone's going to get that and if you are a member of locals you're getting the the number ones everyone else is getting the non number but still good. It's still pretty pretty good okay Quick shoutout to ruben community member craig agents. You're fifty eight birthday. Happy birthday brother appreciate the support caroline says. When does the bookstore start. The book is coming out on april twelfth and my right april twelfth of two thousand twenty two. I wanna start the book tour that day that day. I want a tour. And i wanna start here in los angeles. Maybe we'll do it at the orpheum theatre which is where we did the shows with jordan. Although it was downtown downtown los angeles is basically like a war zone So not downtown. Can we put on the list somewhere else besides downtown. I don't like walking dead down there. I wanna go to other. Something added downtown. But what i'd love to do actually is is start the tour in los angeles and the tour new york. I mean basically. Just go across america and we'll have to bounce up to the pacific northwest and we'll have to go down to florida at the end but really just go across the country. I you guys know this. I freakin loved every single minute of that tour. With jordan peterson. I love being on the road. I love being in the cars. I love flying. I love saying how do people i love doing. The signings i doing the meet and greets. I just want to get back out there. i miss it. I really miss it so much. Just in the last couple of days in south dakota for freedom fest and to just get out there and do a book signing and i gave a big talk a couple thousand people. We did a special luncheon for about eighty people. Like i like you guys. I i really do. I like meeting people. I human beings i like seeing people with smiles on their faces and usually people say nice things to me he had. That's nice most people like get nice things to them so the book tour will start. I hope we're working on now. But i hope it will start on april twelfth. Two thousand twenty two and by the way you know. I didn't get to tour the first book. So the fact that don't burn this book did so well. I was supposed to be on a book tour. And that's really where you sell a lot of books because then all the people come and you can sign and handshake and a picture but we crushed it. Despite that but i really did miss that would love someone to consider. The ruben report t shirts. We definitely by them. We've got a report store. If i'm not mistaken we're doing a little revamp of it. In september is the source of open right now or did we. It's fifty fifty. There might be a ruben reports store. There is but we're doing a revamp in september. Found a lot of that a lot going on. Check the store today. You might be able to find the store online but if not we're going to relaunch it in in september hang on. I knew the liquid cassie says how can the far left not see the end result of the path that they are trying to force us down when a book like nineteen eighty-four exists. We are practically mirroring it in this time. Your thoughts please. Well first off if you want my full thoughts on nineteen eighty-four and exactly how How prescient was relative to. What's happening right now. I did prager you. Book club with michael knows all about nineteen eighty-four so you can find that on the prager you channel but yes all the things that i talked about before the double speak the destruction of language. No one saying anything honest. People working meaning meaningless jobs and just going from day to day. It's all here the state looking down on all of us right knowing history or truth. It's all here. it is in our face. It is happening right now and i would say we have a limited window a shrinking window to stop it. I actually believe that that's where we're at at this moment. And don't take my word for it. Take twitter's word for twitter which suspended me last night for misinformation to admit this morning that it was a mistake but we know that they obviously wouldn't have done that if i was just a random person. Plenty of people get booted off twitter and have no recourse. Fortunately i have some level of an ability to get my voice out there. Mostly thanks to locals but thanks to a couple of other good people who. I gave shout outs to before. But yeah we are entering a very weird nineteen eighty-four time the collusion. The collusion between big tech between corporate media and the democratic party has become v most important thing to fight period. I don't care what our political differences are. I genuinely don't you could. You could be progressive and really think you wanna tax everybody into oblivion or regulate everybody into oblivion or whatever it might be whatever i disagree with you on for nine month abortions some of the crazy stuff that the left is or now fifteen dollars. Minimum wage free pre k. And pre college. For everybody. Like i want to send people the state schools to learn. Like you're gonna learn anything. You'll you'll learn to be a bernie brainwashed buffoon but bernie brainwash buffoon. Let's use that for something else. But whatever our political differences are that is completely at this point secondary to our inability to feel like we're communicating fairly and honestly to making sure that algorithms aren't manipulating us. We just don't know how we're being manipulated. We don't we. Don't we have no idea when you watch this video when youtube shows you suggested videos. Are they trying to completely change your opinion. Or are they trying to strengthen your opinion when you tweet something out. And i see this all the time. Now i tweet something out of gets thousands of tweets that thousands of people agree then. I have to look in the first fifty comments rural horrible things by all anonymous accounting. You know awful stuff to me. And then i always have to click more than suddenly. There's hundreds of people saying nice things. So are they reordering things to make more controversy up top. Are they hiding tweets in the first place like we just don't know so we're we're in nineteen eighty four. Okay we're in it now But we've got hope we always got a chance. Humans have been through far worse than this and this is what the human experience is about like. Maybe we were all sleepwalking before january. Twenty twenty maybe. We're all just like too comfortable in. In what the world was and it was slowly slipping away and we didn't realize it and now we're all seeing it so this is sort of like you know your red pill that you see reality reality as it is and we've got major problems and then the question from reality is. Are you going to be white. Pilled or black billed. Black bill this. Oh i give up like there's no way we can defeat this big tacking and all of this stuff and they're going to kick us off payment processors and it's all terrible or there's the white pill which is that humans have fix things before and we will fix things again and we will build better things and we will build better. Schools were bill better institutions. And all of those things and. i think we're going to do it. And i'm going to do it and i hope you'll do it. And that's all. I've got to say about that. Kathleen says what positions in a room administration with these people. Hold greg gut felt michael. Knowles ben shapiro. Rick and glenn beck had a little lead time on this one. Because i got this question in our local exclusive. But we thought he'd thought he'd do it again because it's just fun so press secretary. I'm going knowles. Knowles has just become an absolute all star of idea is his last book speechless. Speechless was just fantastic. And he would know how to fight with the press people and he would do it in a fun in a fun way greg gut felt he's like me. He likes getting out on the road. I think transportation secretary now. I know you have to be gay for it. If you're in the biden administration. Kp got it. I don't know why the greg's not gay. Maybe he was by curious. Along time ago we'd have to find out to see if he's fully qualify to be transportation secretary that would be one Let's see education secretary of education We're gonna throw that to shapiro right. Facts don't care about your feelings. That's all he would have to do. They'd be like Mister secretary Do you want to teach the children. Critical razor cab regularly Let's see What would you do here secretary of defense. You know what glenn beck glenn beck. He's sort of a small l libertarian. Very much in line with me. He wants a strong proud prepared military. Like i do. I absolutely believe in in funding the military and making it so strong that nobody's gonna mess with us but at the same time we don't want a nation build we don't want to do these crazy wars and gallivant around the world and pretend we're the police but we do know that we have a special place in this world. I think glen would be absolutely fantastic on that one. And let's see foreign minister or secretary of state something like that. I throw that to recruit in germany pissed off all of the right people. And he's just a he's just a great guy and you know to have such a high level person also be gay would cause heads to explode. Not that anyone cares. Nobody cares what you're sexualities except the lefties patrick says. Do you already have a candidate for the third. Don't burn title. My suggestion is don't burn this tomahawk. I love it so i do have an idea. I actually really love that. One and i should tell you that david's working on a cookbook. We're actually kind of working on it together. So don't burn this time because pretty spectacular actually. But if you don't know what patrick's talking about. I've been making these. Well we we make a lot of different stakes but my favorite state to make is like a three or three and a half pound tomahawk with the big fred flintstone style. You throw it over the shoulder and walk to wilma and get in the car the car flips over and dino and bam bam the whole thing but we've been making some great tomahawks. I posted some pictures and locals last week. I got a big green egg for my birthday. This awesome smoker. I'm sure many of you have seen it or used it. So you basically slow cook right indirect heat for a couple of hours on that thing and then you take the plate off to the so. The heat is now. The coles are coming the heat's coming and you caveman style. You just throw the tomahawk that whatever the piece of meat you have is directly on the coils for about a minute minute and a half on each side to get that awesome chart. You will get the most beautiful delicious steak ever. By the way you can go to david's cookbook dot com. I'm in major promotion mood today. You can go to david cookbook dot com to see some of the recipes that we're eating and see some of the things that david is making and Yes i said cookbook. On the way reminder guys go to dumper in this country dot com. Let's get to number one on movers and shakers are. We're there yet. are we there yet. Don't make me attack these people. Go to doper in this country dot com. You can buy it on amazon. You can buy it on barnes and noble bunch of other retailers. And i'm signing every single. Copy that we sell today book plates for all of you people there you are here. I'll even sign one right now. The ruben extra ones. They're all here. They're ready to go. Boxer says we'll cli- be joining you guys on your beach. Getaway congrats on the book and have a great time. We will miss you so we are going. We're doing a beach situation for a little bit. We're going to escape. And i just really. I want to catch up on a little reading but more than anything else. Wanna do some exercise in the morning. I wanna eat right. I want to enjoy some good tequila and wine at night. I wanna get a good sweat on. I wanna get you know some vitamin d and the skin. And i want to stay out at the ocean. That's really what i wanna do for. Good bulk of this off the grid time. I mean it's truly. This is about restoration. this is about reset. Oh and speaking of that. We are putting content right here on youtube throughout the month. I didn't wanna do. It actually might my gut feeling was you know. I'm taking the month then. I'd love to give my guys the month. And i and i don't want to overload everybody with politics in the madness and the current events and the craziness of the day throughout the month however if we really went dark on youtube it could completely destroy the channel because the algorithm always want new content and more and more and more and more so all. We're doing throughout the month. we felt. We had to do something but we're not doing anything. Political we are doing shows about health and digital detox and restoration and all that stuff so next week we already taped it. I've got eckhart tolley. Who have had on the show before who was. There's almost no words to describe this guy. He is one of the most enlightened decent evolved human beings on the planet obviously wrote the power of now which is one of the best selling books of all time really all about being in the moment we talk about digital detox. I've got ben greenfield. Who's a lifestyle expert. We talk all about diet and exercise matthew walker an entire episode about sleep and why it's important in some of the habits that you can get into and how to break some of your bad habits so just like a little bit of stuff to hopefully help you enjoy the summer and then enjoy the fall after that. We're going to go to josh. Hey dave just curious. If there's been a local community started by someone that you didn't expect or that surprised you. Well i can tell you. There's a bunch of lefty communities on locals and that's just fine. I didn't build locals. We didn't build locals to just say okay. These are communities built by people. Who have ruben likes. Or who like dave rubin. That's like they're left. These on there. Who i know have political opinions. That are complete polar opposite of mine. But what. we're doing the best way. I would describe. Locals is we are building digital homed. You can disagree with me. And i think you have a right to have a home a place where you can have your stuff your close your shoes your toys in this case your video your audio your data etc etc. So we're just building homes. Where a home builder. What somebody built this house. That i'm sitting in right now in my office and then what i do. This house has nothing to do with them. So that's really what we're trying to do with locals and it's a bottom up way of looking at the internet and i think the right way to look at look at all of these things and that's another reason why i'm so thrilled to partnering with rumble as i said before we will be the official subscription partner of rumble so everyone that is a crater on rumble. We'll have a button to connect their local community. And you'll be able to take questions from your local community. You will be able to be supported and funded by your local community. It's it's exactly what we built for me. It was like well can we. Can we copy that and spin it off for other people and the answer is yes. Joe says when. I sat down to write this book. What did you want most people to know after reading. Did that change. Ooh that's a good one. That's a good one. I the way it started was. I talked to the penguin guys because the number and this book did so well and they were like you know. We'd love you to do another one and i was kind of like you know the world was in a very weird because of code lockdowns and i had just done you know a digital book tour. Basically every day from eight. Am to eight pm for two months. I was pretty much sitting in my garage talking to people about the book. And i sort of wanted a little bit of a break so we had like a semi break in august of last year. We didn't go away or anything. We did move. Which moving is quite stressful. Actually but i had a little bit of a break just to kind of reset. Then when i came back in the fall i was like all right. I think i can do this. And my feeling was. I didn't wanna do my greatest hits. You know one of the things that i find to be somewhat tough about doing a daily show that i do for you guys is. I don't want to just be doing my daily. My my greatest hits you know. I left the left. You know what i think about bernie. Nasa you know about that I don't wanna just repeat those things and sometimes in the daily show it's like you kind of have to repeat some stuff like it just. It's just sort of what it is but i thought what would be. What would be the new ideas if you took. Don't burn this book. And the ideas. I believe in well. That's one thing. Okay now. I hopefully i armed with some stats in that book. I i hopefully allowed you to think for yourself right. That was the subtitle book thinking for yourself. In an age of unreason we went from an age of unreason into awoke dystopia. Which is the subtitle of this book. I thought well all right if if let's say you think that don't burn this book in the ideas in there pretty decent well. What are the things that you can now do in your life and that's really what this book is about so i think the first book is really about ideas and the second book really is about action. Whether it's what you can do to make yourself less relying on big tech what you can do to make yourself less. Reliant on on big pharma big food garden know how to change a tire know how to do some basic electronics basic wiring things like that and then and then really well. You know. i don't wanna do it. I've got. I've got all the chapters right here. I wanna give them away. I was going to give them away and and everybody said but here. I'll just randomly pick one. You know. I think what i do in. This book is give a really great defensive capitalism which is on the ropes. I gave a little bit of a defensive capitalism obviously in the first book and then and then there's a lot about the digital stuff there really is a lot about the digital stuff because it's not just the data. They're taking that. All of us could be booted. It's also what this whole thing has done to us. We're all very different. Borough very different than we were twenty years ago the way we react to each other the way we stare at the devices all the time. That's obviously deeply connected to why i get off the grid So your question was was easier to write than your. I not really in the first one. I didn't even know how to do it wrong. Sort of so. I was just writing writing writing writing. And i've told you this. I be start by day. Basically at seven. Am i go into my office. I'd be writing then. It would literally be three. Pm and david would've liked. Like i was in solitary confinement. He would throw a plate with eggs on it. And i would eat real quick and then and then when i was done i was done so i don't even know how to make mistakes on that one. This one is a little more technical research heavy. there's a little more anecdotal stuff So it's just a different thing. And what did you want people to know after reading and did that change no didn't change. I want you to be more. Reliance on yourself. I want you to be less. Reliant on the government and less reliant big tech and i think i i'm pretty sure we accomplish that here reminder guys go don't burn this country dot com pick up the book getting amazon barnes and noble wherever you want signing every single copy. Today you will get booked plate today. The link for the book plate once you buy. The book is in the youtube description. How we doing on amazon right now. Do we get to number one. come on. we did not yet. we're still a number two. What do you people do. Help me out here. We're getting there and by the way if we get to number one that's great if we stay number two. That's my by the book where you want to get the book. I know some people don't want to buy on amazon. It's all good no matter what we already know that this very successful. We saw some numbers this morning. All good all good greg. Was this book. We did that one. That's greg we did that one. Give me something else over there Oh crystal we need some baby updates. So unfortunately i don't have great news in that department. We are surrogate actually ended up having to miscarriages which really after the second miscarriage Our fertility doctor wants to use another surrogate and it's really unfortunate because the the girl who is she's a great girl and i hope we'll remain friends forever and all that stuff but we've had to get a new surrogate and then the whole process is just long and it's slow and covert has really complicated. It will happen. I appreciate the question and we're kinda ready. I'm forty five. I'm going to be an old dad one way or another david's a little a little younger but i want to be able to play catch with that kid you know and i want to be able to to do all the things that Father should do with the son or daughter or a well. We'll let the kid pick their gender but the point is you know it's funny on the pick their gender thing. It's like when you're doing in vitro. You know what they do is basically you know they take the sperm. I went into a room. And i had to take care of business. So that's how they get the sperm. Okay i did that on the first day of have i told this story before. I don't know if i've ever fully told the story publicly on the first day of lockdown last year i had. Oh i haven't told the story. I think we actually cut this out of the book because it was getting a little long. I'll give it to you real quick. I lock down last year. We were we were in the process of the surrogacy thing and we were like. Oh we're going to do the sperm in like a week or two but then our doctor called us. And he's like there's these lockdowns coming we don't know when we're gonna open up again like you gotta get here so we jump in the car we had about a twenty twenty five minute drive to the sperm to the fertility clinic. Sperm bank. Whatever you wanna call it last berm over there and and you could feel the tension on the street like people were driving like crazy. It was like an odd windy day in los angeles and it was just like there was just tension lockdowns. What's going to happen to you. Have food in your fridge. Everyone speaking out we get. I opened up the door when we park. And my look at my phone. My phone rings. It's donald trump junior. He was talking to me. Wanted to talk to me. What what. I thought about lockdowns so now. I'm on the phone with the president. We're walking david's. Like get off the phone. Get off the mon- we gotta give sperm. And i'm like it's the president. Saw gotta talk. We're walking we. Get to the door of the fertility clinic and dennis rodman is standing there. Dennis rodman on a scooter is stand outside the door of the i don't know if he was given sperm hanging out by the sperm bank. Or whatever but i like. This is a moment i will always remember. We're in lockdowns. Whatever the hell that is. I'm about to give sperm. I'm talking to the president's son. Dennis rodman standing right there. Yada yada yada. I took care of business. It all worked out so we've got plenty of sperm but joking aside we're We're we're trying to it's going to happen. It's going to happen. That's really the best. I can give you owe but on the on the gender part you know. It's interesting because you know once they have the sperm and then we have an egg donor. So we've been egg-donor who separate from the surrogate right. The surrogate carries the baby at someone else's egg and we have the sperm. Okay our hope is to have two kids one from david at one for me the interesting thing where you really just learn what. The obvious truths are about. Biology is sperm. They get the they put those things together. It's a blast assists for a couple of days but within about three days you know the sex you know the sex they go okay. It's a male. We got eight males. We got four females. We've got one and one. We got all males we got all females. They don't say oh. There's no difference between these things like there's obvious biological difference. So that's another one of the reasons when i hear all these crazy debates. It's like i'm going through something right now. I know very. I know very intimately. What reality is Okay matthew says what do you think about. Federal employees vacs mandate announcement made by president biden. Yesterday i i mean i'm completely one hundred percent absolutely against it. It's a little unclear to me whether it's constitutional and it's a little unclear whether he actually was saying they're going to do it for sure. But this is what they do with everything they lead with some authoritarian thing and then they just wait for people to get dumb and tired enough to go ahead and do it. I don't i just my personal belief for as long as we live in a free country. Which is tenuous at best. My personal belief is that the government especially the federal government should not be allowed to force you to get an injection of any kind. That's just what i believe. I think you have to make decisions. That are best for yourself. I have a feeling if they do this. Federal employees mandate that. There's going to be a lot of pushback. And i think a lot of people might quit or retire and they'll just get unemployment and maybe that's what the government wants. It's putting everyone else on unemployment. But i think it's deeply dangerous. I also think what's really happening here is. We're just seeing an endless move of what the goal posts are right. So it was two weeks to flatten the curve that it was. Oh maybe we'll have a vaccine and by the way many of the people who are now all pro vaccine against boxes when trump was the one that was actually making it happen with project warp speed and we did a story a couple of days ago. All the host on msnbc old tweets joy. Reid is the all star of that basically saying who could ever trust the cdc again and trump is evil. And all that stuff. And chris chris. Hayes also had tweets like that and maddow. She still not even talking about her anymore. She's still going so it's like they just moved the goalpost where it's like. Oh we were at four something when it was this guy. Now we're for it. I don't think you can do a federal ask. Federal facts mandate like. That just seems like a crazy thing and it's also did we flat in the curve or not. Why does whatever bring that up is. That is co vid. Roughly ninety eight to ninety nine percent of people will survive kobe. The answer to that is yes. Don't take my ford doolittle searching for yourself. Then we were told. The vaccines were ninety. Five percent effective now. We're finding out studies that significantly less than that or maybe that they weren't supposed to prevent colds. The new one is. They weren't supposed to prevent kobe. They were supposed to prevent you from getting a worse type of kobe or less symptoms. That's not what we were promised so foul cheese saying masks. Do everything then saying masks. Don't do anything then saying we played the video the other day. Oh mask could make it much worse because you fiddle with your face. Much more now for mass mandate again. It's like well wait a minute. Were you lying or not whether you touch your face. A lot like that doesn't change based on science like come on man that's my biden impression. Man meghan what books will you read off the grid so we have a list. We actually have a stack of books. I don't even know what's in the stack. So i had asked The local community to send me nonfiction books. I didn't wanna do. I didn't want to do sorry. It's a semi fiction books. I didn't wanna do nonfiction. Biographies and history and that kind of stuff. I really wanted to fiction. And i mostly like sci-fi people a bunch of recommendations we. We went out and we bought a whole bunch of stuff. They're all they're all in the other room right now. But i think what i'm gonna do is for the first couple of days. I'm just going to do nothing. Do some cardio. I lift a little bit. Relax and then. I'll i'll get into some reading probably in the middle of the month reminder guys. Don't burn this country dot com. You can pick your retailer. You can get assigned book plate of my new book which is really part to and what. I'm now i'm now promising to be a trilogy. I am george of burning. okay you the link is down below. Once you buy the book you can just submit your information or sign in book plates. Don't burn this country. They're right here and there you go tall says what are you most looking forward to during your time off. I mean it really. It's the easy answer is just like the general. Relax ation like just the generalist but i would say at a different level. It's like i know that those last couple of days. What has happened in the four years that i've done this thing. Is that those last few days. When i have to come back i start thinking about like all the craziness of the world again and they start thinking about tech again in the news all lockdowns and like all the nuttiness even before last year. Just whatever the craziness of the day was. And i really feel i can. You could probably go back. And look if you want to see some of my september shows where i come back last year we did it with michael knowles. I think we did with glenn beck the year before two years. I think twice. We did it with ben shapiro phony mistaken i feel refresh. I feel like oh. I have fresh eyes to look at the world. That's why this thing feels important to me. Because i think we could all use some fresh eyes right now like we all had a problem with big tech and social media addiction and being and was he stuck in the fight. We all have a problem with that before coded but in kobe. I mean think about it this way since cobra. Are you online more or less every single person more and if they had been asked before coded would you like to be online more or less everyone would have said less so we knew we had a problem. Then the problem got worse and no one's getting out of the problem. So that's why i do this and just have what i mean by. Fresh eyes are just a little space a little space to allow new thoughts to come in one of the things that i talk about with cartilage. You'll see it next week is that it's not just that we're being slammed with informational time. It's that back in the day. Remember we need used to meet a friend at the bar. Let's say and what you do. It was before cellphones. You'd be like okay. I'll meet at the bar me at the corner at eight o'clock right neon twenty third and fifth at eight o'clock we'll show up. You didn't have a phone back in the old days and then if your friend was late you would just kind of stand there. Stand there and you kind of look around and you'd see people wanted for me one of the great things including in new york city people watching right. You can stand there and you or you'd think or you'd stare stare at the sky. You're stare at your shoes. We used to have built in space to our day to day lives. We no longer have that because everywhere you go. I if you're texting with the people you're going to meet the entire time. If somebody's late you're tweeting you're distracted. You're watching youtube videos. We never give ourselves. When's the last time you did it really like just some time to just not be doing any of that stuff to just stare out into the abyss to stare at the ocean to look interview. Whatever it might be to drink a glass of wine and not be talking about politics or whatever. It's getting harder and harder. And i think those giving yourself that space is as important as not being on the things like just that that ability to just be like. Oh maybe maybe The brain needs a little breathing room. Maybe there's some new thoughts that are trying to get in but they're constantly blocked out by algorithms and the day to day doom scrolling. Think it's possible. Let's see who it locals should write the check to jack. Twitter all the free p. r. o. Jack dorsey jack dorsey. You would agree to be interviewed by me many times over the years and it never happened. I suspect it ain't gonna happen at all at this point. Although my buddy and locals investor anthony poblano has said he will try to set it up. Look i'd love to talk to jack. I you know i look. I have harsh words for the guy at some level but at another level. And i would say this for for mark zuckerberg any of the people that run these tech companies in some ways. They're just all over their head. Mark zuckerberg i mean if any of you saw the facebook movie from what was that fifteen years ago. It's like he was a kid who was basically trying to get laid and then figured out a way to create this little college website to get laid next thing you know. He's like the most powerful man on earth so i don't have sympathy like he's got an obviously like an extraordinary life. In every resource known to man and wealth that is beyond on unimaginable. And all of those things little sympathy for creating something that sort of losing control of that creation. And that's not to say he's made all the decisions. Although i think zuckerberg in this case has been much better on some free speech stuff. Basically saying we're not here to police everything. Ao tried when he was under oath to basically be like you know have to do what we want and he was like. Well that's actually unconstitutional. Because you're the government. And i can't more sympathies with zuckerberg than i do with jack dorsey but my gut feeling is. He's probably not fully evil human. Being how about that. And i would like to talk about some of these inconsistencies and how you can flag me for misinformation suspend me and then the next day basically say oh that was a mistake and why all the mistakes always are on conservative right-leaning people and never the other way around and how many people have been unjustly banned from these things and by the way i can also say that from starting locals like none of these questions are easy. How you're gonna deal with free speech and how you're going to deal with harassment and how you're going to deal with if people start putting porn or whatever whatever it is whatever it is. I believe that companies are allowed to make decisions on their own. So there's there's just so many things that we could actually talk about. I suspect he won't in one of the reasons he doesn't really do press anymore. Because remember. he was on rogan with tim pool and he really came off as as not really knowing what was going on at the company he also was the ceo of another company. What's other company that square. I think i'm pretty sure. He's the ceo of square as well. Try to imagine what the day to day operations of the guy. That's running twitter is and he's also the ceo of another company. How does that make any sense. Like i know for me. I'm running. I'm doing the ruben report. And i'm you know. I'm co founder of locals. I'm not running locals. I'm not the ceo of my partner partners running the company. I know what kind of wherewithal at work that takes but running to companies. Seems like really weird so yeah. He's the ceo ceo of both locals and of square which is a payment. They're a payment processor. I suppose yeah Okay let's see. Oh i got a whole bunch of tv hits today case. You're not sick of hearing me talk. I will be on an with natalie harp at one forty pm. Pacific i will be on newsmax with sean spicer in lindsay keith. At three ten pacific. And then i will be on fox news primetime at four thirty pacific and then to end my day. I am busting out that big green egg and we got a porterhouse. We got a juicy juicy porterhouse that we are going to slow cook. And then we're going to do caveman. Sal i said before and then and then tomorrow although by public life will end online tonight until september. I i will have my phone tomorrow just to not for news or anything like that but just i got some travel plans and i gotta coordinate some things and you know things like that. But but sunday sunday. It fully begins in earnest. Karen says what author has inspired. You're writing the most who that's a good one. I haven't gotten that before. Well of course the easy answer is jordan at some level because i will give you another answer jordan easy one because he gave me advice right at the beginning i was. I was in We were in oslo. When i got the book offer we were about to go on stage. It was one of the biggest shows we were doing. It was about two minutes to showtime. And i got the call we got the offer and you know one of jordan's rules in the original twelve rules in effect. Is you know have friends. That are happy for you. Basically i'm paraphrasing here and i walked into jordan's green room and his wife was in there and david was with me jordan. I just got the book deal. We just closed it and he lit up his huge smile. He slapped his hands. He spun around in his chair. He got up he hugged me was so happy and then he immediately and just the perfect jordan style immediately it was like here's how you here's the you have to write. You have to write each sentence four times. You have to have two monitors about so. He gave me some technically vice. It was. I tried to do the to the brightest engines. Couple of times thing. It was not for me at all so everyone has to figure out your way to do it. But i think he. He inspired me in that he got to really it and it was partly being toward that. Got the deal in the first place but in terms of let me see. I really want to get this question right. I really want to get this right. I'm gonna peak over here. You're saying it. I could probably give you a couple of answers on this. But i i'll say this glenn beck from reading a couple of his books you know. There's a sort of whimsical nature in some of them. That i really have liked even when you're talking about serious topics. So his last book. How is it how to fight with socialists. Arguing with socialists. That one's really sort of almost like an over the top sort of humorous sort of light book. But what i've always felt. And i think it's why i try to do this. Show the way i do is that. There's a way to talk about serious about censorship about assault on freedom encroaching authoritarianism. There's a way to do it. I think i just did it. Where you can talk about it in a somewhat amusing way somewhat fun where you can still realize that you have to live. And that's what i really tried to do with. Don't bring this book. We had to remove a lot of jokes. Because i had way more jokey than it was. But i loved hearing from people that they were laughing while they were reading it. I was a little more control. They think with the jokes in this book. And i will tell you that. I don't burn this country which you can get right now. Don't burn this country dot com. There is only one star wars reference. There is only one i only had to. We only cut one. You know my feelings about star wars. It has been butchered horribly. I didn't wanna do too many. There's one star wars reference. That's it devon says. Have you ever had withdrawals during your off the grid. There's that weird tension the first couple of days like. oh man. did i make a mistake. What's going to happen. I can imagine this year. It's gonna fuel really weird like suddenly in the last day or so we're talking about lockdowns again blocked downs which we know don't work. So am i gonna come back on the grid in california. We'll have been locked down for the month. Will businesses be opener. People are going to be outside You know we are going away for a little bit. So it's like when i get back if i'm able to avoid everything while i'm away. What happens when i come back. Bought a plane. I get in the car and there's no cars on the street. I might be able to do that. You know the lockdown to have begun or that were in the middle of a lockdown zombie. Apocalypse is here. Or there's been the mp search. I mean who the hell does but yeah. There's always a little bit attention those first few days because we're just so used to it. We're so used to grabbing our phone. We're so used to eating lunch while we're reading this stuff. So there's a little bit of that but after it's usually about three or four days then then like the space starts coming in and it feels good and there's a communist and Decency and you know. We're all running around this. This hamster cage doing this to our brains all the time right. That's what we're all doing all the time. Somebody else thought. Oh my god. Somebody had a thought another. i mean. that's what twitter is thought. Thought thought thought you can't believe how many idiots there are there. They're always a lot of idiots. We just didn't follow them now. We follow all these eightieth thought. Thought thought i'm more on your more on. If you can get past that part of it then it starts becoming fun and then there's a moment there's always a moment around day sixteen day eighteen. Something like that where it's like. Should i go back at all. Should i just go. John galt right now. That's it. I'm out i'm out. I'm done but then i do come back and we'll come back this year and as i said. I do think this is going to be the craziest of all of them because because the first couple of years that i did it there was it was crazy politics stuff but it was like america's is going to be fine like one way or another but now it feels like everything is just on like this like hairline fracture. That could just like just erupt into a giant chasm so that that does feel different this year. It's like what. What would surprise me as i said it would be. Biden's step down. Would that surprise me. No if they if all the blue states were locked down that surprise me no if they told us that china was actually it was exposed that china has been running a giant misinformation campaign in america. And it's been fueled by twitter and all the things that surprise me no like nothing would surprise me so that that's a weird thing to come back to this year which feels bigger than other years past where there was like basic parameters where now we have sort of no rules anymore. Chad says who is his front runner in the california governor recall election. And who will you be endorsing. One hundred percent without question if i say anything crystal clear larryelder. One hundred percent has my endorsement. he is my friend. I interviewed him here last week. I saw him up at Freedom best in south dakota. He is a good man. He has lived his life for this very moment. He did not want to do this. I assure you larry's got a great gig. He's got a great life his girlfriend's awesome. He's funny he's happy. There's so many other things he could be doing. He's successful on other fronts. Right with with his radio show and everything else. He's doing this by pure by calling. Likes like somebody got to fix it. I've got to be the guy. I really believe if every if those other candidates over the next couple of weeks and of course this is one of the things. I'm gonna miss in the next month. But if if over the course of august a bunch of those people caitlyn jenner thing is. Caitlin jenner is in freaking australia. Right now shooting big brother it's a sham and a pr stunt and she should be embarrassed. Okay and everyone. Everyone involved in campaign should be absolutely embarrassed. All right but if other people running against newsome can just be like you know what. L- elders got the momentum and there is a much bigger fish to fry here. We've got to get rid of newsom if they can all coalesced behind him and if he can get one debate if they'll even agree to a debate and larry can get on stage with that evil disney cartoon villain that is gavin. Newsom larry can make some moves. I also think the california as crazy as it is. The average person in california is more in line with larry's political beliefs. That are very much in line with wine. He described himself as a small l libertarian. Obviously he was a trump supporter. He doesn't want lockdowns. he wants to lower taxes. It's going to be a big slog even if he becomes governor because we've got a one party state here but anything will be better than gavin newsom. So my hope is that that larry can bring the fight to gavin. And then as. I said if if it doesn't happen if larry loses if if newsome is reinstated or or wins the recall whatever it is I'll make some decisions at that point Ken says how long did it take for you to write the new book Well it's a little hard to say like the chunk of the writing. It was about three months so pretty much from where then to july. That is pretty much like february march april but the editing process like we still just sort of finish the editing last week and i still have actually till september fifteenth to do my like final final final edits. So what i'm gonna do. While i'm gone is i'm taking the the digital copy. Obviously that i have now and it's going to be the first time we're actually going to print it. I've always. I've been reading it off my computer. Which is not the best way to read these things. But we're gonna print it out. I'm going to take a sharpie and a highlighter. And i'm really going to go through for those last couple edits and then i'll come back and i'll talk to my editor and we'll we'll get it sort of fully fully lined up. I still have to write a little bit of the interest. As i said i want to change because of what happened with twitter and then i have to write the acknowledgments and a few other things like that guys. What are we doing here. Well it's my last day on the internet until september first twenty twenty one My new book don't burn this country surviving and thriving in our woke dystopia. And i assure you that's what we're in is up for presell right now and if you buy it today. I am signing book plates for every single person that buys today. All you gotta do go to burn. Country dot com the links for your favorite retailer are right there. And then we have a lincoln this youtube description right down below. You submit your information so that we will mail you the book plate. You will then place the book plate in your book and life will be patty says. Are you leaving your staff. Guacamole fund for their aaa. When you're gone for a month. Enjoy your time what you know what you guys have been busting your butts for the last couple of weeks aaa on me for the month. Not just the dot just the glock. I'm not kidding. Every cipolla you order for this month and connor. All he eats is aaa. It's going to be a lot cheaper for you michael. Because he do you eat other things. But he's like ninety nine percent the guys after police at this point. I will pay for all your polling for this month. Unlimited lay on me. God storm says what hobby are you picking up during off the grid. Well one thing. I can tell you you know i've told you about my tornadoes. Yellen my niece so i got prp when they spend your blood around they get the plasma out they inject it back into you. It's really good for your cells and regeneration. So i did it about two months ago. My knee is feeling better than it's felt in years and years so i'm playing basketball again. Which is really nice. I can't fully play in like a five on five. Like really all out game. But i can do some half court kind of stuff to move around a little bit. I'm thinking about the surgery. I know a lot of people are telling me to just go get it and i have a great doctor. Who is who's worked on a lot of nba players and he assures me that. If i got the surgery. And i did the rehab right. I'd be better better than before. Even though i'm a couple of years older but it's it's a long recovery and it's like i'm fairly busy at if i was going to do what it was gonna be august and i was like wait a minute. Am i gonna lead up to all of this just to be basically incapacitated for the month. So we're trying to figure out what to do so basketball and hobby-wise what else hobby-wise you know what i really. I'm not gonna do much of this or no. maybe. I will You guys know. I've been doing a lot of gardening lately we've got this really cool rooftop planters situation. It can be tough here in la when it gets you know we could up days in a row where it's like high nineties and you know you need a little shade and got a water stuff a lot. But we're growing tomatoes and peppers and cucumbers and we got some lettuces and we got some herbs and all sorts of stuff up there So i think. I'm going to refresh the entire thing. Actually because we've got some bernie. I was just up there this morning. And it's been it's been hot lately. Doug says is locals looking to alternative payment methods. I wanna dump. Yes i promise you whatever. Your concerns are on the tech side of locals. Nobody has solved all of this stuff. Yet what i mean by that. Nobody is fully solve. Decentralized storage yet. Nobody has solved fully the payment processor stuff. And by the way you know when you say okay well. Everything should be decentralised. Meaning all of the data should live on a million people's computers so it's exists forever. It's like do you really want that. What if somebody puts child porn up there. Do we really want that. So there's all sorts of. That's why i say it's like there's legal issues there's philosophical issues. There's technical and technological issues and we have to figure out all of those things and we're working on it so yes we're working on more payment processors we're working on the storage stuff I can't lead too much about what we're doing with rumble. But this partnership that. I mentioned before this is just the beginning. The idea that we're the official subscription partner of locals the idea being locals. is you know the youtube replacement. The patriots replacement were now tied together. And it's just the beginning. But i kinda can't say more than that at the moment. It's like we will do this. We will fight these guys and they will rue. The day that they ban dave rubin on the twitter alley says are you recording an audio version of your book. Yes absolutely obviously. It's not scheduled yet. 'cause we got to put the final final touches on the editing but i loved loved loved. Loved doing the audiobook. It was so fun we did it. In of course about four days. I had to go across town. And you go into a booth and you've got somebody in your ear making sure you pronounce the words rider and make sure the names are fully right. Make sure you don't you know slur something or Stammer whatever it might be. You've got the engineer with you. Right in there. But i loved it because i was able to give a little more personality to it. I think i was able to hit the punch lines in the right way. I don't know that i'm supposed to say this. But i did change a couple words over the course of doing the audiobook that i thought felt red. You know red one way and verbally once you're saying them we're a little bit different but i love doing it. And i can't wait to do it again. Courtney are you going to college campuses again. I hope so. I mean i don't know what's going on on college campuses and only knows where things will be at in the fall. My main goal is to tore. Tore the book. As i said starting in april but what i really want to do is i want to start doing. Some big theater shows do less kind of. I saw that a lot of stand up clubs over the last couple of years. And for those of you that have seen me do stand up. Because i got like three jokes but i get. I have fun with you. Guys and people have the ball But i want to do more theater stuff like really kind of big theater event. So we're gonna look into that. We'll probably start some stuff in florida hopefully in the fall. Just a moment. Kim says o'reilly has the killing series. Do you wanna create a burns ears. Yeah i mean. It's happening whether i wanted or not right so don't burn this book. Don't burn this country. We have an idea for the third one as i said. I got a cookbook. Come in so you can kinda read into that what you will. I shouldn't say it's my cookbook. David's got a cookbook. I'll have a little something to do with it. and then i think there's all sorts of other things related to the name of a tour and all sorts of that stuff ian. This is a good one. If larry elder wins and he offers you a job in his administration would take it. Let me say this. If larryelder wins first off. I will be the happiest guy and all of california i will be happier the larryelder i assure you that if he offered me a job i would consider doing some sort of part time. Maybe press job dealing with some of the bullshit nonsensical borderline evil press that he would have to put up with the liars in the newsrooms and dealing with become then a mainstream story. Interesting thing right now. is that even though. The governor of the largest state in the union is being recalled. Nobody's covering it in national media They are getting a little nervous though. Because there are more and more stories being written about larry But you know once. Cnn starts going. after him. Once washington post new york times et cetera starts going after then. We'll know that there's really a move being made which which will be a nice moment. I would maybe at a i. I hope i wouldn't want money for it. I do not want money. I don't want money from the people. And i don't want money from larry but just out of pure like i'm in this with you man. Let's fix this rican place. I would maybe do some kind of part time. Press secretary thing if he wanted But we shall see. I hope i presented with that with that problem. Why is there such as amy. Why is there such a fuss about people choosing to be unvaccinated. Shouldn't they have the same legal right to refuse treatment. Of course they should. We've been told for the last couple of years by body choice and now we're being told my body your choice. None of this makes any sense right. None of it is is logical or consistent with things that we were told we had to believe otherwise we were right wing racist maniacs a year ago when trump was in office again. And i and. I'm not a scientist and i. I'm not pretending to be anything other than i am. But we do know basic things about kobe. This ninety eight to ninety nine percent recovery rate especially if you are in eighty years old and don't have other co morbidity other sicknesses and things like that that virtually everyone Survives perfectly fine plenty of people in my family and friends that got cova that all were sick for a couple of days. Some were barely six on with a little bit of a sniffle. Some a little bit more sore throat. no one presented really excruciating headache for a couple of days. But they all got better. Now that's not to say everyone does but the point is why would every single person. This is never what we were promised. And that's what. I mean about the moving goalposts. We were never promised. Oh we'll never open up again or we will constantly be threatening you with masks and lockdowns until everybody is vaccinated. Every federal employee is vaccinated and every member of the military's in back he's vaccinated. We're gonna make sure that your job knows about your vaccination status. It's like these guys lied us out everything every big story. In the last couple of years you know at cavanaugh and covington and russia hoax and jesse smell they lie about absolutely everything and then this is the thing that we have to have absolute trust in them and we can't question anything like does that makes sense. I don't mean that. As a conspiracy theorist in a traditional sense of conspiracy theory. I mean it has just as like a logical decent person. Why are we being told. We're not allowed to make decisions for ourselves and our why is that. Why do you really think that they care about you so much. The same people who you know rector job who locked you in your house who lied to you all the time they care about your health so much they care your host and they just wanna keep you safe like. Does that make sense to anybody to anybody. Let me know the comments. Right down below Jesus or hey sues says. I found about you recently on. Tim cast tim pools podcast and just ordered your book. Any plans to have tim pull back on the show. Yeah tunes been on a couple of times. Tim is as close. I would say to to a real journalist as possible. He used to be out in the field a lot more. He was tracking antifa and he used to do more as far as i know like out on the ground reporting so i don't know if he calls himself a conventional journalist anymore. He's doing a little more of what i do. It's a little more of like a daily. Like here's what i think about the world. Here's here's my lens and hopefully you can glean some information about that. But tim is good guy He's welcome back any time I know he's wanted to do more in person so usually on his show. When everybody's in person i think see in connecticut if i'm not mistaken or maybe he's in dc. Now i know he's somewhere east coast but maximum back there. Maybe i can jump on his show and he's he's absolutely welcome back anytime vic. Says can you sell prints of the book. Cover art statue of liberty on fire. Ou can we talk to somebody. We got a guy we can talk to all right. We got a guy we could talk to see. What would do on that one meredith says. Are there any movies that you plan on watching. While off the grid so i should clarify. I will be avoiding news and current events. And all that stuff. But i i am okay watching movies right like this isn't about. I can't see anything digital or electronic whatsoever. Like i will get in my car. There will be gps there. There's no point in me having a month off only to get lost going to the supermarket They'll have gps in that regard and all yes at night will probably watch the movies. We've been trying to quiet place. And we've been so busy the last little while but i really enjoyed the first one. So we'll we'll probably get to that. Maybe maybe even on saturday night as our first night off. Is there anything else that i really want to see. Or i'm looking forward to right now. I don't know. David's got a note in his iphone about all the movies that we've been trying to catch up on But i can tell you again. It's sort of like on the book front. It's not going to be political stuff like it'll be fi stuff where some some kind of light stuff. But that'll be absolutely it earl says have you read ben. Shapiro's new book yet his new book the authoritarian moment while i just interviewed ben went up this week. I will be truth. Be told i read about half of the first chapter and then i skimmed around before the interview As you can imagine this week has just been completely crazy on all fronts And you know. I've said i tried to always be upfront about this when i started the show. If i was interviewing somebody about a book. I really tried to always read the book. And i always did probably the first year or so since then because my life and my businesses and everything will become much more hectic. It's rare that. I can read the full book occasionally i can. I did with Douglas mars last book. But it's but it's pretty rare that i fully can so i usually have my guys try to give me some sort of a synopsis of the book or i will bounce around figure out what i think is best but i also think as an interviewer sometimes knowing a little bit less is actually better. Because then you can add. You can ask less leading questions. You can ask more broad questions and and let the author kind of fill in the blanks for you. So you know it's fifty fifty and i think there's probably some cases where knowing more is better in some cases knowing lessons better bet says what retailer should we preorder the book. I don't want to support amazon and visas. I think that's totally fine. If you don't wanna wherever whatever makes you comfortable can you read me the list or can you give me the list of If you go to don't burn this country dot com. It's going to redirect you to the penguin random house website and they've got links there to a bunch of different retailers amazon is on there. I know that barnes and noble is on their mind giving me a couple couple of them right now Book shop is on their apple. Books is on audible is on there and then you know one of the things that we're going to do. I don't think we're doing it right now. He's bookshop the day the conglomerate of the small bookstores. So i think if i'm not mistaken so doing some of this on the fly obviously bookshop. If i'm not mistaken they're like a conglomerate of small local bookstores and i i try to support small. Local bookstore is as much as possible. So i get it. The amazon is great. But we'd like to keep some small businesses operating as well Ben says does the book address faith in any aspect or is this book more secular advice. You know one of the interesting things i think about the first book is that i did address faith and i said that liberalism does not work without belief. That star is more of a conservative belief in. Perhaps that's why. Maybe i'm more conservative at this point and i don't mind if someone says that i'm conservative. I actually think that shows the why tent of conservatism but a lot of sort of traditional liberals were not happy about that. I know that even even some of my friends were not happy about that. Because what do you mean. Dave if if you're talking about belief that's conservative. What are you saying that religion has some value. that's conservative you're saying time-tested eternal beliefs have some value. The stories of the bible have some value that got a certain amount of liberal people upset. Not everybody but a certain amount but to me what's happening in our society right now is a purely secular society on series where we worship science and i believe in science. Of course i believe in the science when the scientists properly communicated to us. Everything we're doing is through science looking at a camera. How'd that get there. You're watching me on the internet. How bad happened science cool stuff. But we're at the end of worshiping science. Where any given day. There's a study that says this. We better do this. There's studies that says that we better do that. That things wrong this things right and then and by the way the same science people. Also there's no biological differences between males and females. I mean it's all become sort of crazy. So i absolutely do believe that belief. I believe that belief is a key part of a of a functioning society. That by the way is what most of the founders believed even though they were trying to separate church and state and they all had their own different struggles with religion. Was thomas jefferson. I think was writing a version of the bible where he was removing references to god. If i'm not mistaken. So i think that there's all there's all of these ways we can look at this but your question. The question was actually there. Is there stuff about belief in here. Just quickly run through the chapters right. Yeah yeah yeah. There's there's a little bit but it's not. It's not to tell you what to believe or that. You have to believe this religion specifically. But i do get into why i think tradition is important. Why i think that you know time-tested ideals are important and that is really nod to religion. Oh just to be clear. Thomas jefferson wrote a bible. Without jesus not god pretty close considering that a lot going on guys. What are we doing here. Radio reset for you. My new book. Don't burn this. Country is out for pre sale today surviving thriving in our woke dystopia. You go burn. This country dot com. You can get your favorite retailer. And i am signing book plates for every single copy. Sold today this. Us only we're going to have some other promotions for our international readers viewers later but that was the only thing we could pull off for today and then i go off the grid in just a few hours from now. Holy moly my throat. Starting to get right. I can feel it. When's the last date and time we can get signed copy. It's today only midnight pacific today. only that's it. If you want to sign a number copy that's what we're doing for the locals people so that's locals exclusive but yeah signed number. It's anyone that watches it today. Not just not just during this livestream. It's anyone that Buys it and submits the form today so as long as the form. That's in our youtube description Youtube description down below as long as you submit that by midnight tonight pacific you'll get the sign number copy and then by the way I'm not going to be doing like crazy. Promotions for the book. Like this really is a one time thing When the book comes out in april that day will do some fun stuff with with some signature stuff and all that. But if you do it if you buy the book the day the book comes out obviously you're not getting it that day this way you're ensuring that you got the book that day sam says what's your take on leaving big cities and moving to small towns man. Tell you this my family is had. Actually there is a little bit about this in the new book. My family at time since one thousand nine hundred ten has had dozens of family members in new york city in the boroughs. I was born in brooklyn. My dad grew up in brooklyn. My mom grew up in the suburbs of new york city. But my grandparents lived in in manhattan and brooklyn for the most part I go into a little bit of that in the previous book as well but dozens of family members new york city lower east side like the the the eastern immigrant story that so many of us know inexperienced whether you're italian or irish jewish or whatever it is a greek does matter or some other thing. All doesn't matter what that what that true american story is all about like coming here with nothing and then living in tenement houses and then eventually living in maybe a nicer walkup apartment but then eventually getting out to the suburbs and all that that is what my family story is. It's one of the reasons. I'm so appreciative for this country But we have one cousin left. That's it my sister and her husband and two kids lived in new york city. They left during the lockdowns. They're down in florida now. We got one cousin left. I may have to call the eighteen airlifter out What but that's it. That's messed up But i got one cousin left. Yeah that's it because So to your point like it doesn't seem like the city thing is going to work at least cities that are run by democrats because as long as they're going to fund the police as long as long as they're going to give a nod to crime as long as they're going to also be teaching all of the worst things and we're gonna critical theory and all of these schools and all those things like how. How can you rely on that. How could you you want to open a pizza shop in new york city. How would you open a pizza shop and have a big glass window in the front of your pizza shop. Knowing that some antifa guy could come and punch it or throw a brick through and break the window and no one's going to do anything like the cost benefit of living in new york city doesn't work anymore and i say that with great sadness actually like my formative adult life was in new york city from around. I moved to new york city in in the end of ninety nine and i lived in new york city to till two thousand thirteen. I was in new york city for nine eleven. Like i loved love that city the endless or all the stuff that i hated about the city. In retrospect i love the the smells and the heat and the subway the groceries and the the people in the anger the love and is all nuts. New york city. But if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. And i think that that stuff got into me and helped me do what i do right now and living in a city that is a truly international city. I think maybe. I didn't even realize it at the time but i think maybe it's helped me come to some of the ideas that i believe in now because i believe that we can be a multicultural society in the best sense. That's what we are and it's only it's only the identity politics people that are now trying to turn us against each other because of skin color and all of that stuff where if you live in new york city and nobody cares nobody. Oh there's a black guy. Walking down the street nobody cares a gay guy. Walking down the street nobody cares. There's a lesbian with a lazy limp. Nobody cares she's latino who who cares. And that's what that's what. America is all about So i but broadly speaking i would say yeah get outta cities it sucks. It really sucks like the great to go back to lincoln center and hear an opera. Maybe a huge opera guy. But i did that once. It was awesome You know to go back to central park like these would all be awesome things but is it going to be safe. Who's gonna really run this thing like. You've got to get rid of every democrat and then maybe it would be time to go back Congratulations on the new book. How many copies of don't burn this book sold out launch you cancel. It's having a friendly wager. I don't know that i'm fully at at privy to say what the answer to that is i will say a man. My word candice did sell more books week. Wanted i am completely completely fine with that. There was a little tension there at one time because canada's book we had announced my book i but then it looked like hands was gonna come out the week before and i was like. Oh because how many people are going to buy two books from similar. World's obviously and i absolutely adore candice. I love candace doing such great stuff. And i'm so thrilled for horizon and i think she can do unimaginable. Things going forward but book was gonna come report. I was like oh that kinda sucks like why they do that. But then they ended up pushing her book. She did do. She did sell more copies for sure. I'm not. I'm not denying it but we did great. We did great. And i love competition. I really do like. I love the fact that around the time my book came out. Glenn beck's last book that i referenced earlier came back a little bit before that. Douglas murray's book came out a little bit before that the fact that i mean this game where people that i know are doing good things and i just believe they will all rise together. It's not about michael jordan. Was michael jordan scottie. Pippen still pretty good. You know bill wedding to not so good but he was on the team he did some good stuff too and got a couple of rings figure out your place in the wider world. And i like the idea of thinking about things sort of through a team. A team aspect. James ron says colonial to really save california. I think we've addressed already. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. Like if i didn't think it was possible. That what the hell would i be doing with my life. Why would be interviewing him. Why would i be talking about the ideas. I believe in like even a crazy state. Anything can happen and remember this. Just think back to election night. Two thousand sixteen. I was on air with the daily wire. Guys and andrew klavan said something to me. That really has stuck with me since then and credited him with this many times since when it was happening when we started realizing trump was gonna win and suddenly some of the states started rolling in it was like holy shit. The thing that nobody thought could happen is about to happen. Orangemen is going to be president. Hillary who is being handed. Everything is not going to be president. And at that time. I had voted for gary johnson. I wasn't happy with either one of those candidates. Obviously my feelings on trump change but like we were watching. It happened in real time and waited fully. Got announced even though if you if you remember. Hillary didn't concede that night remember that. She didn't concede till the next morning. I guess she's a conspiracy. There is or something like that. She also sent out a tweet a little bit later. Saying trump was an illegitimate president. But then you were allowed to do that stuff you know. But cleveland said something that really stuck with me he said and i don't think he was really for trump either at that point he definitely wasn't for clinton but he said you he looked and it was me and shapiro. Jeremy boring was in their knowles was in there and he looked at all this and he said hey. Do you guys realize that. Only in america could this happen. The thing that nobody thought could happen just happen. That shows you the flexibility and the beauty of a free system really is because there's always a chance so to like larry elder. There's always a chance and by the way these things do happen. In free societies. You know what. Even though cleveland said only in america. It's like brexit happened. Everyone said it couldn't happen. Free societies as long as there's a little air for freedom can do some pretty extraordinary things. James says well the book tour be just in the states would love to see you in spain. I would absolutely love love. Love love to go to spain. I've never to spain. David actually spent a semester in spain. And and just absolutely loved it We were gonna do a stop with jordan on tour in spain and then some travel. Things got a little screwy as i said before. I didn't get to do any book tour for doberman this book i will go basically everywhere basically anywhere. They'll take me except portland. Who wants to go to portland. That's a pretty big shit I'll go to portland will lead more security for that show But i'll pretty much go anywhere. And i would love to go to spain. I haven't done much of western europe. I really also want to go back to italy. I haven't done italy since one thousand nine hundred seventy. When i was a poor college student and i was eating big macs the whole time. I didn't appreciate food. I didn't have any. I didn't appreciate good wines. I really want to go back to italy. I really want to go to greece. I wanna go to poland. Hungary like i want to get out there and i have a bookstore as an excuse that would that'd be pretty sweet. Quick radio reset guys. My book don't burn. This country is out for presale. Right now i want to sign every single copy. Even if i ended up with the claw by the end of the day remember the claw by ended up with that claw. Its okay. That's what i wanna do. Don't burn this country dot com. Pick your favorite retailer by the book today. We're signing place every single person. Us only the link where you can submit for the book plate is right down in the description keep talking keep going. You can do it. Jan says how did society get to this place where the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many education a couple of years back when i started talking about what was wrong with the left then i started going to college events and i was showing up to talk about basic liberal stuff and i was being called a white supremacist and a nazi homophobic. A whole bunch of other stuff. I started noticing the trend the trend that now everybody sees and i remember very specifically the first event that it really hit me how rotten something was we. Were up at Well portland state. No surprise and my friend. Peter goes ian. Who's obviously been on the show. Many times He is. I believe that the time was an associate professor of psychology philosophy at the school and i was doing an event with pete christina christina hop summers. Who's the original factual feminist. She's been fighting for. I first wave feminism. True equality your whole life. So you have pete who is. He wrote a book at that. Time called manual creating atheists. We have this atheist philosophy professor left. You have christina unoriginal feminist in essence an old school lefty and old school liberal. And you have dave rubin who was a year off the turks still calling myself a lefty and all that you've a bunch of us come to this talk about free speech we go to the event there's tons of antifa. They're they're calling in bomb threats there blocking people from going in. There's a ton of security i remember. They had to keep us in a room. Offsite before and there were security standing outside the door and christina is is just a lovely lovely lovely woman and i just adore her and she's very dainty if you ever meet christina. She's very dainty her wrists. Or like this and i remember. We were being shuffled from the room with security to the event and i was holding her hand and thinking how small her hand was. And i was like. This is nuts like. We're the good guys what what's going on here. Why are these people. They're calling us. Nazis like this is insane and they're calling us homophobes and and christina hates women. You know all of this insanity and we gave a talk. I think it was interrupted once or twice but not too terrible in the room itself. But i remember. They shuffle us out after they didn't want us to go out to eat but they didn't want us to go out to eat near campus. After it was a whole thing by the way at that event. That was the first night i met a guy by the name of andy. No yeah that andy. No andy no was was. I think he might have even been a student at portland state. If i'm not mistaken at time. But in essence he was a student journalist who again. He was lefty himself and he started doing. Some journalism. Actually saying there's something going on with this antique thing like. What is this socialist thing. What is happening here. And we all started seeing it from that point forward and i would talk about it on the show and then obviously i brought on people like brett weinstein. Who was a lefty at evergreen state. And because he said that we shouldn't have a day where we tell white people not to come to campus he was called a racist basically he and his wife wife heather were basically chased off campus and had to lose their jobs over this james damore incident at google Lindsay shepherd up at wilfrid. Laurie university fighting. She tried to as student. Ta tried to show a class a. Jordan peterson video and she was basically suspended for it. Even though she made no commentary about video she just wanted people to watch it So there were all these things that a whole bunch of us so wrong. And they're directly correlated to the marxist quote that you gave me they're like college and now we're seeing it actually that it's leaked into high school and its leaked into junior high and in some ways it's even leaked into into elementary school in preschool. These ridiculous awful. The worst time tested ideas of equity instead of equality and taking from some and and being embarrassed by success. Jealousy is a virtue and all of these things. We've decided to make these things. Could i would lay a lotta this blame on bernie. He somehow tricked an entire generation of young people to think that if just the system does everything for you whatever you wanted to do for you and if the system just gives you everything that things will be good. And that's why liberalism has nothing to do with modern progressivism Jfk asked not with the country can do for you what you can do for your country. He was a liberal democrat. President that's completely the opposite of bernie sanders free college free for everybody. We would've told you that the minimum wage is fifty dollars. Even though everybody is going to be replaced by peds okay. Free this free that he doesn't it's not because he wants things to be free because he's such a great guy. He knows in his heart apart. I have no doubt that if we had free actual universal healthcare the way he wanted that service would go down which is why people still come to the united states right now to take part in our evil capitalist system that is by the way it could be better for sure but people still come here because they're on long asked lines in canada for all sorts of services in their socialized medicine system. And if you don't believe me on that Talked to lauren chen. Who's a friend and a former guest. On the ruben report whose father developed cancer could not for months. Get the appointments he wanted. I was able to connect him with a fan of mine Who is a longtime supporter. Not going to give him a mention his name right now just in case he doesn't want to but who worked at one of the best cancer institutes in the united states and we were able to get her father here and he's doing much better from what i understand. So why did he want to come here instead of canada's socialized medicine system so so these people have all their own ideas. But they've tricked. They've tricked young people into thinking the all the wrong ideas or the right ideas. I gave a talk right before the two thousand sixteen election at crossroads school here in los angeles. This is like the most elite high school in los angeles it pro- if we can find a price on it and it probably cost fifty grand a year to get students to school. It's insane this is where all the hollywood moguls and their kids. All the hollywood elite all the super rich people send their kids and right before the election they wanted to do. They want to have a liberal libertarian. A conservative socialist all come debate and talk about who they gonna vote for and things like that they brought me on a liberal and i of course ended up agreeing. Mostly with the libertarian. But they had this socialist there. I don't even remember his name. It was a socialist. Who was a socialist who actually ended up running on the socialist ticket and a lot of the kids were applauding him. A lot of the kids were putting him. And then i went all in and and had to rip apart and then by the end. I had a lot of the teachers nodding with me. And everything else Crossroads school in la harvard high school in l. a. which i'm getting some numbers on right now is forty two thousand dollars a year for high school. I'm looking for crossroads. I think it's maybe in santa monica. We'll check on that so we have to fight these bad ideas and by the way. These bad ideas aren't going anywhere. This is why we have to fund students instead of schools. Right we have to be able to give people more school choice. Why does elizabeth warren hate school choice. And hey charter schools. While she sends her own kids to private school. This is the woman who also pretended to be a native american to get a job to get a professorship right. We know that she did this. They lie about everything crossroads. School is thirty eight thousand dollars a year. So it's deal because harvard high school is forty two thousand. We've an updated number quotas. Forty five thousand dollars. The deal disappeared. So much of that. Deal okay Oh my god. Is that right. The first number that i read thirty eight thousand for elementary school at crossroads elementary across roads. Can you imagine thirty eight thousand dollars a year to send your children to. Somebody lied school. Where they're going to be brainwashed by so may sexual marxist. What's wrong with you. Kathleen says signed book plates. What about pawprint of clyde available for extra. That would be fun. That will fun. Maybe we'll do something around that We get closer to to actual lodge Let's see Dave does your book cover the subtlety. The left is using to lull people into the collectivist mindset. It's less about that. Honestly i mean that's sort of what i was just talking about for the last few minutes. It's less about that because that's really more what don't burn. This book was about like exposing the left for what it is why. The ideas are wrong y. Funneling money endlessly programs like affirmative action. Don't work and keep people in a cycle of poverty. All of that so i. I think i did that. That job there again. This book is more about the action that you can do to be more reliant on yourself to be more reliant on your local community to understand clearly about your relationship with big tech things of that nature more than like. I'm trying to move past the why i left. The last i left the left. And then i lit the match. And that's it no more left. Okay vince says. Do you think the universal mail in ballot will affect the california recall forcing basically a male invalid. And from what i understand. Rick grenell is doing a lot of work on this. There is deep deep corruption with the voter rolls here in california. Lots of dead people a out of people that have moved a lot of people who are ineligible to vote for one way or another so that right there is so broken and corrupt that. That's one of the reasons i said before it's like larry elder has a massive hill to climb here. Because it's not just. Oh i got better ideas. I have to get more people to vote for me. It's likely voter. Rolls are all screwed up. And then we do all this stuff with with mail in ballots. And you have to show your. Id which you don't have to do in california although strangely if you were to get on a plane to leave california you have to show your id. So is that racist. By the way do you have to show on. Id to get a covert vaccine. You probably you probably do. They put your name on a piece of paper racist fox that they are that woman. Cbs racist as for your. I d would you got the covert vaccine. all right. we got about twenty minutes left guys man. I am talking today. sally says is this book to book good to give on the fence liberals like the last one. Yes it is because my hope is if you gave the last book to an fence liberal and i know a lot of you did. We got a lot of emails like that. Like people saying you know. I gave this to my cousin. I gave to my wife. I had one guy. He kept saying. I kept putting it on my wife's nightstand for like six months that she kept removing it and finally one night. He woke up one morning. And it was actually. It was flipped over it. It was open a couple of pages in Yes it is because it's the next extension of that because my hope would be that if you if you gave this to a sort of self hostage liberal or on the fence liberal whatever you wanna call that that they would have woken up to some of the ideas and then if they have. This is the next step. Partout empire strikes back where we're putting on solo and carbonate don't burn this country dot com guys. You can get the books at amazon. Barnes and noble couple of other places if you just go to that website number in this country dot com. We've got the links right there. The link right down below you just submit some information that you confirmed that you that you purchase the book and we're gonna send you a signed book late ellie says. What do you say to friends who were still afraid to leave their home. My friend who's vaccinated told me that she's terrified because ellsbury stop watching the news. I mean i try to tell this to people but it's hard once they're in that mindset when you're in that mindset. We're like you're just watching and cnn. They're showing you a death. Tallies which remember cnn like a rolling death valley throughout the trump administration. Then bite him became president. They don't have the debt sally. Now they're trying to scare us again. So i'm guessing that any day now they're gonna have charts. They won't show numbers because the numbers are actually quite low. But they'll show percentage increases. Which as i say if you go from one to two. It's one hundred percent increase. You gotta try to wake them up however you know how literally be like. Do you want to take a walk like start with that. Do you wanna take a walk. And let's just take our masks often go for a walk or you keep your mask on and let's go for like we. I'm sure that the rates of gora phobia the fear of leaving the house. The rates of being afraid of just basic social interactions. One of the things. I really really noticed. In the last couple of months where i've traveled more. Is that airline stewardesses. It's there's tension on planes right now. There's a rudeness I saw a flight attendant. Get into a fight with a guy and it was not the passengers fault and they actually kicked all of us off the plane. And i had to leave. Take a flight back from miami to drive to fort lauderdale. Get on another plane altogether So i think sort of basic social stuff is breaking down again. That's why i go off the grid. I'm gonna see real humans for a month. I'm going to talk to real human beings. I'm gonna talk to cashiers. I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk to waiters or maybe i won't talk to anybody but it'll be better than the other thing Kurt how about we disband the department of education. Yeah i'd have absolutely no problem. What is it doing what is it doing. Other than brainwashing people. Brainwashing young people to turn on. America disbanded destroy it disband. The teacher's union randi weingarten. That woman is a complete maniac. Disbanding sorry you have no control or influence over anyone's life again. I don't have kids yet. So maybe at some level. It's it's easy for me to say And when we do have kids god willing. We'll have the resources to be able to send our kids to to private schools or charter schools or whatever it is but that's why you gotta push for funding students instead of systems. Because then it'll give the parents flexibility. And that's as i said before it's exactly why the left doesn't want it. They hate choice because they want brainwashing that that is as simple as that. It is as simple as that all right. Four questions left and then i was eighteen media periods. Do but. I think i'm going to not talking to sit in a dark room for a little while Johnny can you implement a no suit jacket rule for you. When you're chatting with us on the private livestream on locals. Yeah we could do that. No suit. I don't think i've done the jacket on well this morning. I did because we did it from the studio. If i'm out of studio you gotta deal man if i'm out of the studio. No suit jacket. Usually in a t shirt. Last night i was wearing regular shirt but down but the policy has been instated. Can we make note of that. Make note of that the report mc how will you know if new lockdowns imposed. If you're off the grid. I won't no i won't my goal is to not know. It is very possible that for a week i will be in my house and everyone else will be in their house and i will be in my house by choice and they will not be in their house by choice. I don't want to know as i said we're going to wait for a little bit. So when i get back and i get off the plane. If the airport is like completely empty. I think i will have glean something out of that but i'm going to try to avoid as many of those interactions as possible. I'm gonna work out here at home instead of going to the gym. Because i want to avoid the. Tv's anyway i'm going to do as much as i can to. Just make sure. I don't get any of that stuff and we've a very short list of way where we have a very simple way of that people can get in touch with us meaning family of things and it's a very short list related mostly to health related things if people absolutely need to get in touch with us but it's not. I mean really like if biden announces his retirement. I don't want to know. Or if barack obama slips and accidentally says oh we gotta get rid of joe kamala. You're in. I don't wanna know i'll find out on september first. The world will continue. Connors has best guests on what was on biden's chin in that video and then putting a if you didn't see this like five minutes before we started this livestream. There's a video going viral right. Now we're biting is giving. He's sitting at a desk and they hand him a note his people hand him a note and you can actually see their close ups of the screen shot where they it says something like sir. There's something on your face. And it looks like he has like a little goo over here and he wipes it off and he sort of eats it like. I don't know what it was. Maybe it's faced was melting. What's going on there. It's just also ridiculous All right guys got one more question for you Michael says give us a little hope before signing off for august. Look we have hope. Andy do frame. Shawshank redemption hope like. That's the most human thing that there is hope the belief that we can change things and make things for the better and that you have some capacity over your life and that you can fight for a world that you wanna live in. We have to have hope because guess what all the people coming to take that away. They believe they believe that that they can destroy this thing. So how about the rest of us decide. Hey we're not just going to sit back and take it anymore. That would be my hope to you over the next month whether you take a couple days off the grid or whether you're as engaged as you ever were or whatever it might be Fight a little bit more And i don't mean violently. And i don't mean what the democrats get in their faces and don't give them any peace or any of that stuff. That maxine waters so many of the democrats have said but in your own life show up to those student council meetings the parent teacher meetings. Show up say what you believe. Cody when you're when you're in a whatever your job is and they're pushing some sort of racist diversity inclusion program down your say something say something. It will not get better unless you say something. No one is coming to save us. You know like they ain't come in like twenty guys on horses ain't come into town to save us. You've got a chance to save yourself and and i truly i swear i believe this. Well everything i've said here. I believe but i really really like in my bones believe this. If enough of us stood up within three days we could reset this entire. I actually believe that if enough people said no no more. I'm not participating in this anymore. And then whatever that means to you and your life whether it's taking your kid out of school whether it's deleting your social media accounts whether it's doing something new and business whether it's moving your family but if enough people said that's it we live in a time of lies and dishonesty and authoritarian bullshit and i will not play any longer. I will not be part of this any longer three days. That's really what i think it would take. I honestly believe that That of course is where a lot of my energy is going to be spent over the next month. Or when i'm when i'm trying to reset some of my thinking and and get those fresh eyes on things as i said before an open up mental space to get so some new ideas in there and it's not even new ideas really get some just a fresh perspective on what's going on. That's that's where i'm going to be. That's where i'm going to be. How can i help you know. I think i think in the last year. I've helped a lot an awful lot of you. Say dave debut. Help keep me saying the best thing someone can say to me. You guys have help. Keep saying at the exact same time especially those of you on locals. Because i communicate with you directly all the time and i get to see what your lives are all about and it ain't all about politics we can. We can fix this but we gotta do it together. It's really simple. As that guy's quick recap on the media hits today. Although you've got to be sick maybe get out there and take a walk yourself but if you're stuck at home and you really just want if you're sitting there going i want more dave more dave please. For god's sakes give me more more. Dave more clip that n beyond with natalie harp at one forty pacific newsmax. I'll be on with sean. Spicer and lindsey keith. Spicer inchoate three ten pacific and then my last hit the last hit till september i. I'll be on fox news primetime at four thirty pacific. All right one more time. And i'm going to go by Don't burn this country dot com. You can buy the book at your favorite retailer. Their links right there and then our description right down below has the link where you can submit your information so that i can sign book plate for you. You can put in your book and send it and if you do that if you're in our local community to do it there's a separate link there and you'll then you'll get a number and copy as well All right let me take one more symptom than i'm going to give you some final thoughts. We can fix this. I'm a piece of it. You're a piece of it. We're all a piece of it. I hope that this summer whether you take a day off or a week off for a month off or no time awful. I hope that You give yourself a little space to a human in all of this madness. I hope that i'm able to come back with those fresh is. I was just talking about and continue to help. Give you guys a little perspective on some of this stuff that That is okay. It is okay and what sits next all. This is that for me in the last year and a half like it's crazy crazy times. We're in some sort of cultural revolution. There's no doubt about it but life has been pretty good for me. My life is pretty good. And and i want to show you or not even show you. That sounds too. I just want to be part of of you realizing that life can be good within this thing too because it can be and maybe the best way for us to win. This thing is just being a little better than those guys while they're burning building and while they're complaining we can be showing people that there's a better way to do all this stuff and be appreciative of this country And be appreciative of the people that came before us and the ideas that allowed us to succeed all of those things so on that note guys. I am saying goodbye. I'm a few hours away from getting off the grid. As i said i'd do it. A little little smoked porterhouse tonight. We're going to crack. Open a nice bottle of wine. And then i've got a little bit of travels ahead of me and then i'll just be hunkered down at home. Avoid in the machine. And i wish you guys a great end of the summer. We're in the middle of it now. I hope you have a great month in august I hope you take a little time off yourself. As i said we'll have some content here And for those of you. That are in the Ruben report local community. I know you'll still be interacting and talking and all that good stuff. And i'll catch up on all that. When i get back to more than anything else i just thank you guys for being on this adventure with me helping me build something that allows me to do something crazy as what it is that i'm about to do which shouldn't be that crazy at all yet. In our modern times it is quite crazy. So i thank you guys and joy the rest of your summer and i will see you on september first. Thanks for tuning in everybody. Be sure to subscribe and rate this podcast. And don't forget you can watch my direct messages live on blaze. Tv and youtube every weekday at eleven am pacific two pm eastern. And of course if you want to connect with me personally and get early access to my sit down interviews. Join ruben report. Dot locals dot com.

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9-03-21 The Mike Gallagher Show Hour 2

Mike Gallagher Podcast

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9-03-21 The Mike Gallagher Show Hour 2

"Is podcast is a production of the salem podcast network for more podcast like this from courageous voices of conservative reason visit salem podcast network dot com portions of the following program. May contain prerecorded material. This is your source for breaking news and what to make this. He's the mike gallagher show. We want to know who is still out there and how they plan to get them home to the american people want the truth. My mind's going blind now president biden had no plan had a reactionary evacuation that failed the american people and as left but disastrous amount of equipment in the hands of our enemies. That's going to hurt us for years to come. From the relief factor dot com studios years. mike gallagher. There was a miserable jobs. Report out today. Way below expectations. America's jobs recovery hit a brick wall in august. of course it's all going to be attributed to the delta variant. I've got an idea. Maybe the beast oughta stop terrifying everybody over variants. 'cause we're going to be living with variants probably the rest of our lives. This is going to be like the flu. I think it's going to be around forever. And you got one of two ways to decide how you're gonna respond to the delta variant and the alpha verion and the beta vary and the who go vary and the variant either live your life and live with virus or you just shut down. Don't go don't go to work curl up in a ball and wither and die. I think that's i think those are our options. Only two hundred and thirty five thousand jobs were added back to the economy so lowest numbers january. I saw a report this morning on the today. Show on nbc. Oh travels expected to be down. Over the labor day holiday weekend because of the delta variant delta variant and then fouled she was asked king foul. She was asked over yesterday about the new. What is it the move variant of the varian or the m- coup vary is another variant. There's never going to be an end to variants. And i got to do something last night. I'm gonna let me geek out for a minute. And i'll get to my point after i share with you. The joy of going to a broadway theater for the first time. Since march of twenty twenty broadway has been shut roadway. Starting to reopen last night. I went to the walter kerr theatre on forty eighth street. And so haiti's town was the first broadway show is actually two productions that opened last night haiti's town and waitress too big hit musicals on broadway theater geek that i am. I'm gonna see waitress this weekend before. Heading back to florida and it was a glorious feeling to be back in the theater again to be with a bunch of people who appreciate theater and it was a little bit different mask sir required in the theater you had to show your proof of vaccination at the door which incidentally is total performance. It's it's completely performance. Art all they need to do is see what looks like a vaccination card on your phone. And they're letting. In you think a broadway theater usher is going to be able to validate the authenticity of your vacs card. Come on you know anybody could show a picture of vacs card and say there's my accent. Okay go on and enjoy the show. It's really the honor system. But that's okay because the people in that theater made a decision to live their life and take a risk. There are people that would never go to a crowded theatre in this case of theater building. Nine thousand nine hundred twenty one your elbow to elbow with a couple of thousand people. There are people who would never ever right. Now choose to do that. And that's okay but for those of us who did that ought to be okay to that'll be okay too. I don't like vaccine mandates. I don't like the way the beast has tried to control and manipulate people's lives. I don't like a pharmacist. Telling me she's not going to dispense ivermectin because she's got some political agenda. Incidentally i've been doing some homework. A number of a number of you pointed me to the national institutes of health website. Do you know what the national institutes of health website says about ivermectin. I mean rachel. Maddow says it's just a horse de warmer. Don't take a horse de wermer. Well it's not a horse de wermer as prescribed for humans. It's an anti parasite drug drug. That's been around for forty years. But what does dr francis collins organization and fau ci and all the rest of them all the smart kids. What is the national institutes of health. Say about ivermectin something. I've been taking for months. I've been taking it all throughout the pandemic even after i got vaccinated because my doctor prescribes it for me. You know what the nih website says. This is quote. I'm citing directly from the national institutes of health website. And you can look it up yourself go to f h dot gov that dot gov it is the authentic actual national institutes of health website which says ivermectin for prevention and treatment of cogan nineteen infection. The findings indicate with moderate certainty that ivermectin treatment in cogan nineteen provides a significant survival benefit. Wow that must be news to rachel maddow. What else does would say at the nih and you can look it up. You can absolutely see all of the all of the things that are written about. Ivermectin you can. You can put put as a search word. Put it in the search box. Ivermectin over their study after study which attests to the efficacy of ivermectin. It's at the nih website. Now wait a minute. They said it was just a horse de wermer. Let me read from the nih website. Moderate certainty evidence finds that large reductions in covert nineteen deaths are possible using ivermectin using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. Oh is that a horse de warmer. Rachel what did you read the nih. You're so smart. Rachel maddow what did you look at the nih site. My gosh. i mean here's another one. Three studies involving seven hundred and thirty participants evaluated ivermectin for in nineteen prophylaxis among healthcare workers. Found that ivermectin ivermectin prophylaxis. That means as a preventative. Among healthcare workers and covert nineteen contacts probably reduces the risk of covert nineteen infection by an average of eighty six percent. These are actual clinical trials and studies. This garbage this left politicization of medicine that many doctors won't prescribe is lunacy and this was the pharmacist call. My doctor accidentally sends in my ivermectin prescription to an out of state pharmacist in a major national chain. And i get this voicemail this week back from the pharmacist. Calling from this message is for michael. Just letting you know that we received a prescription from your doctor. But unfortunately i am unable to fill this prescription. If you have any questions are phone numbers but just letting you know there aren't going to be. There are very few pharmacies that are going to be willing to fill the prescription. So it's just a head back again. Tiffany questions thinking. I wonder if she's gone to the nih website. Why would a pharmacist. Be unwilling to prescribe something that according to the national institute of health institutes of health own website says evidence finds that large reductions in cova. Nineteen deaths are possible using ivermectin. Why would a pharmacist be opposed to dispensing a medicine. A drug that shows that meta analysis of three trials indicates that ivermectin prophylaxis among healthcare workers probably reduces the risk of cove in nineteen infection bite average of eighty six percent. Why would a pharmacist be unwilling to dispense a medicine that shows according to the nih website that with moderate certainty ivermectin treatment in cova nineteen provides a significant survival benefit. Now you don't believe me go to. Nih dot gove and type in the search word. I've ivermectin and you'll see all of this information. That i just read directly from the national institute institutes of health own website in fact the nobel prize in medicine in two thousand fifteen went to two scientists whose experiments type of bacteria and subsequent modifications produced compound that led to a new class of drugs with extraordinary efficacy against parasitic diseases. That compound is ivermectin. Us doctors right more than one. Hundred thousand prescriptions. A year for ivermectin. It comes tablets. It comes in a lotion. According to tim carney over the washington examiner. Why does the major media want you to believe that ivermectin simply a horse paste the answer's probably because the media are more interested in scoring cheap points in the game of culture wars by mocking rednecks conservatives than they are and inform their readers. The situation is this. Many people believe that ivermectin is an effective treatment of koga nineteen the but the drug is not proven to treat cove in nineteen nor is it approved by the fda for that matter. It isn't anti parasitic drug. Corvette corona virus. Do not a parasite but here we go. And when when. Joe rogan announces. He's taken ivermectin. Joe rogan one of the country's most popular podcasters and he's mocked for taking a drug. That's you know exclusive to farm animals. There's no evidence. The major media presented no evidence that joe rogan is taking horse formulated ivermectin. That's a deliberate misleading distraction and it has misled the public read. What the nih has written about. I've ever met bottom line. Is they're lying to you in pretending to that. Ivermectin is some kind of a horseshoe and when it goes to the pharmacist level. Where some smarmy sing song. Chirpy officious little twit. Like that woman who called me in refusing to to dispense either becton and ominously telling me. I'll i will likely not get it anywhere else. Their minds poison. These people are brainwashed. They are blinded by a stupid agenda and that agenda frankly could cost lives. Where do you hear what candace owens experienced. When she wanted to get tested for kovac they wouldn't even tell term. because she's candice owens. I'll tell you about that in a whole lot. More coming up in one thousand nine past the hour numbers. Eight hundred six. Five five mike. After the devastating storms here in the northeast over forty dead sunshine blue skies. Today there is always sunshine daylight and clarity after a. Let's hope that's our country's headed one. Eight hundred six five five mike. Your voice your perspective coming up. Be sure to get the mike gallagher. Show podcast at mike. Online dot com. Bet you've seen peyton sheth talbot on the tv. The father and son owners of relief factor. Boyer they great guys. They have a heart for the hurting. They just want to get you out of pain. They also do a whole lot of things behind the scenes that you'll never hear of in fact let me share with you a little secret. The nine hundred. Ninety five quickstart. That i always tell you about where you could try the product. The one hundred percent drugfree relieffactor for three weeks for nine hundred ninety five. They lose money on that deal. But they know you're probably gonna keep ordering because it does work and they want to prove it to you. Relief factor is made from wild caught fish oils and botanical. 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I just received an email from a cova testing facility that they're refusing to administer a test to me because they don't like my politics insane. I'm banned from making sure. I don't accidentally spread cova. She posted the email that she got from a woman named susanna who works at the kovic testing facility. Sure enough susannah told candice owens. She's refusing to book an appointment for candice to be tested for cova because quote. She cannot support anyone who has proactively worked to make this pandemic worse by spreading misinformation politicizing and discouraging. The wearing of masks susannah suggested owens go to a different establishment located quote in a back alley. Owens of course emailed a response has only candice owens would telling the woman that her refusal makes a to give a covert test. Somebody on the basis of her politics makes this very political nothing screams. This virus isn't political. Quite like googling the names of the people who book test with you and determining on a case by case basis whether or not you'll let them comply with your community cova measures road candice owens in response nothing screams i my community quite like refusing to test people who are going to a local event and wished to ensure their negative and therefore do not spread the virus. Here's candice is trying to be responsible. Making sure she's negative before she goes to an event and this woman won't test her because she's candice owens on conservative. These people are crazy you understand. Covert has pulled. The curtain back has lifted the veil off the truly certifiable bitter miserable unhappy lunatics among us. Am i wrong Mike gallagher show. It's pretty clear at this point that nancy pelosi our chief. Cove enforcer doesn't believe a word she says about the virus now pelosi's eating one years old deepen the risk range for krona vires. He's standing eddie. Crowded event in napa and yet pelosi is not social distancing. She's not wearing a face shield. She doesn't even have a mask. On in the relief factor dot com studios. Here's mike who said that broadway theatre last night and listen there. People mad at me. Go onto the broadway show. I like broadway. I like movie theaters. I like to go places. I like to do things. I'm gonna live my life and if you are going to say you're going to stay home because you're objecting to these parameters i understand that i respect it and i'm never going to find fault with somebody who feels that way. You want to find fault with me. knock yourself out. But it dawned on me that here were a couple thousand people willing to live their life. I guess you could say take a chance. It's like getting on an airplane. You guess you're taking a chance and you're saying that you're going to be free and many people say we're not free of i've got to wear a bash run not free if i've got to produce the proof producer proof of vaccination and i get that i understand that this is the country we're living in and people are making tough decisions about how to live their life and a lot of people having to change and alter and pivot but to hear about a pharmacist refusing to dispense a legitimate medicine or a cova testing center refusing to test a conservative commentator. Like candice owens. You realize how far off the rails we've got and this is going to. I mean mac has a good point about cova. I wanna play for. I gotta play fao cheesy. Because mac your point i see on the screen is that covert has been around as long as we've been around right basically mike. Thank you for taking my call. Sure goes like this. This isn't opinions. If it's fact checkable just if you A couple of rain kiss. Scientists go very fascinated about mroz south west nile. They investigated them. It's the corvina virus. That's what gives you the spiky thing which is why this kobe. Which has he is called. It's probably covina family. These researchers on their own dime essentially. We're researching found just changes. It keeps coming back. It's being around as long as we have. It will keep coming back. You can come up with vaccine. But they curate. It's not curable the next one kinda already on the only coming away. He's already here. just wait. i'm so glad you brought this up. Because lord fao she weighed in on this listen to emperor fao g and the only be noticed. He hasn't been around much lately. They've kind of kept him. Sorta it's really been were shell walinsky more than fallacy. I think he's vouchers. Getting tired of it or maybe the bite administration is saying. Hey why don't you sit this out for a while but he has weighed in on the new corona virus variant mu. I don't know if this is darryl mu or mmu or maybe you. I mean of course vouch. -i they bring him out a out from under wraps to weigh in on the mmu variant and whether or not we are going to be having to deal with a new variant because you understand according to the smart kids ninety nine percent of all new kovin cases in america are because of the delta variant. What of them. What about the mu variant. This very has a constellation of mutations that suggests that would evade certain. Antibodies not only monoclonal antibodies but vaccine in convalescent serum induced antibodies. But there isn't a lot of clinical data to suggest that it is mostly laboratory in vitro data not to downplay. We take very seriously but remember even when you have variants that do diminish somewhat the efficacy of a vaccines. The vaccine still are quite effective against variance of that type. Bottomline were paying attention to it. We take everything like that seriously but we don't consider it an immediate threat right now you have any idea what the hell he just said. You have any idea whatsoever what the man just said. I like the fake count about. She better i think this guy's you can't tell the difference. I say even if you live alone. I would wear a mask in house especially in the shower because frankly droplets can make the way through the drain and come up through somebody else's toilet infecting them with covert through the anus ballpark in two to five to twenty years. We can start thinking about considering the idea of pondering the thought of conceptualizing the possibility of maybe perhaps reopening but probably not. I would avoid having any fun whatsoever in the near future. That's what he sounds like mu variants that we the clinical montoc loma. We don't know if there's going to be a risk at this point in this juncture. We think that perhaps the clinical trials. We don't think we take everything serious. We're going to be living with this crap forever. You know that right. It's not going away talking to somebody this week about having to maybe make a move across the country and i know what he's thinking he's thinking well this is gonna blow over. It's not it's not gonna blow over. We're going to have to live with this virus. And i'm tired of talking about it. Maybe as you are listening to it. And i promise we're going to move on to some other things but i wonder if you truly agree with me or disagree you think this we're gonna have another couple months. This is all going to go away fifteen days to slow the spread. It's been a year and a half. And i don't see an end to this thing that you look at. Every headline numbers are rising. I texted pictures to a friend of mine in south carolina. Who's a theater person. I was excited. I thought she'd be and i figured she'd be excited. About seeing me at a broadway play and she texted back glumly and yet. South carolina leads the nation in new corona virus cases. It's it's depressing in a in a way but then there i was last night at this show with thousands of people people in the streets. It was it was like broadway's coming back and people even in new york city are willing to say we're gonna roll the dice and we're gonna live our life. We're going to go to a show yet. We're gonna wear a mask because that's what they required to do. And if you don't like that requirement then by all means you wouldn't go and you shouldn't go and you're going to show a picture of your vaccine card on the phone a and i'm not encouraging anybody to cheat but trust me. That is not a scientific process. I mean it's it's it was like an awakening for me. Not only was i really ecstatic three back at a at a show again but also seen some normalcy a return to living life. And i know there's been parts of the country that have been open all along but there have been many parts of the country that have not. And it's more than just it's more than just geographic. We have got to have a return to life about half the country's vaccinated right now. The vaccine isn't going to be the answer to this or like officials deciding whether or not they're going to relinquish the power that they crave. That's gonna be the determining factor. Let's use you. Think about all of it just a few more minutes and we gotta get on to got biden addressing the country over these terrible jobs numbers out this morning just two hundred thirty five thousand way way below what they expected. Eight hundred six five five mike. Eight hundred six five five six four five three. Here's rick a rick. Welcome here in the relieffactor dot com studios. How are you. i'm doing great good. Just one thing. I want debate. Besides the pharmacist being able to overrule what your doctors are telling you you. Should you had insurance companies now for years telling you went and who can get a test and not and it's been done by non medical personnel. I mean we being taken over by Ridiculous sister you imagine. Not you're right. A non medical person telling candice owns. Well i don't like your politics. I don't like your position on the vaccine. So we're not gonna test you cova. Vid go to a back alley. I i'm not a big litigious person candice on a sue dummy into oblivion shot a file loss and i'll bet she will. She's no in case. You haven't noticed. Candice's no wilting wallflower. But think about that. I mean i know how mad i was at the snotty pharmacist. Telling me she's not gonna fill ivermectin and unlikely not gonna get it anywhere else or many places. Imagine trying to be responsible and getting a cova test because you're going to do an event and the covert tester doesn't wanna test you because you're a conservative named candidate zones. John you're on the mike gallagher show. Hello john afternoon. Why don't we start. Treating the corona virus president buys treating afghanistan assist. ignore it. maybe it'll go no. Maybe maybe it'll go away all right and good evening. All right more coming up about. Try to outsmart the please. Don't say good morning. please okay. i'll say good afternoon. Please don't say good afternoon. good evening. Hello hello i was watching the ushers at this broadway theatre last i think and they must just dread receiver vaccine card and of course only in new york. Does hypocrisy abound. You don't have to show your driver's license devote no ide- required to vote. But you better have your idea to go to a broadway. Show along with vaccination card so that oh you know you are who you say you are. What a crazy idea you. Smile amazon and support the mike gallagher. Show charitable foundation support the blue. Oh mike gallagher you know these variants aren't gonna and now we're coming up on an election year in twenty twenty two. They got to come up with new ones. Thanks mike do know that the virus will continue it. Leaves through the election in twenty twenty two in columbus just wanted to know if the democrats are gonna make people show their passport of the vaccine to vote. Yeah that'd be great. You had to show your vaccine proof to vote but not your ide- what a crazy world we're in and of course we've got a president who doesn't seem to know exactly where he is much of the time it just very. Did you hear him yesterday. Say he's lost his train of what he's lost his train of thought. My mind's going blank here he was and this is of course in response to the supreme court upholding the texas antiabortion law which is great news. Abc news reports that abortions are already rapidly declining in the state of texas. And they're reported like that's a negative thing here was biden's response lou. Listen to this doozy. We as we head into labor day weekend we have more evidence of the progress of our economy from last year's economic calamities. Today we learn the economy created two hundred thirty five s cut. Here's cut nine sarg at the wrong. We'll get to the other one here in just a moment that was biden on the economy. Here's cut nine him. Losing his train of thought his mind is going blank and and so i asked him That him and the catholic church and says may lift you up on eagle's wings and bury on the breath of dawn let the dice china upon you etc and hold you in the palm of his hand and they played on. My mind is going blank. Now what's the song that is played where everybody is on the chair. Everybody you know what. I can't remember it anyway. And that's the song that was played. Man's got the nuclear coach. Great news i just somebody checks to be a very funny billboard one of those ambler things that you see on the bridges and the highways of america amber alert white male. Seventy eight wandering around. Dc thinks he's president. Yup that's what we're up against. That's the commander in chief. And you know america's jobs recovery hit a major roadblock only two hundred thirty five thousand jobs were added in august. They had predicted seven hundred. Twenty eight thousand here was biden's reaction holding an address moments ago trying to spin it as positive news. We as we head into labor day weekend. We have more evidence of the progress of our economy in from last year's economic calamity. Today we learn the economy created two hundred thirty five new thousand new jobs in august and unemployment rate fell to five point two percent the lowest it has been in eighteen months but despite the impact of the delta variant and i'll talk more about that minute what we're seeing is an economic recovery. This durable and strong i. The biden plan is working. We're getting results. America is on the move again. Today's revision of previous month. Job gains with revision of july numbers This report means that we have been adding an average of seven hundred fifty thousand jobs per month on average during the past three months. So there you go joe biden. Leave it to him spinning some bad news into into good. Let's go back to this conversation about the nation changing and having to to sort of adjuster adapt and what sacrifices you're able to gave apparently made a big sacrifice in losing his job over the vaccine is that true. Is that true gate. Guess it is my day. Was this morning what happened. The mandate came out about a month ago. I had and my wife also works for the same. Healthcare organization is headed a standing religious exemption for three years apparently religious beliefs change depending on what vaccine it is So as a leader in the organization. I i am mandated by monday to get the vaccine. As i stated in the beginning i will not get the vaccine. I'm not ready for it. It is against my beliefs which are protected by the state that i live in but they still basically said well. That's too bad there tonight. Everybody and my wife was a nurse in the same organization will lose her job in a month and basically about three hundred. Nurses will walk from that organization when the mandate comes down to them. Well do all. Those nurses are they. Are they refusing the vaccine. All of them based on a religious exemption status there are there are some religious or what they consider in. The state strongly held belief interesting. All right gabe thank you. Thanks for sharing. That i mean it's heartbreaking and this these are tough decisions. The people are making all over the country. Conversation that we're going to have. We need to have a conversation about this. Texas anti-abortion law though the media is flipping out. The beast is angry. Tell you all about the great news for america. Coming up

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"Thanks for listening to the atom and Dr drew show on podcast. One. All right. We talk about Dennis Rodman in this episode has how many brothers and sisters all my God. His dad has many brothers and sisters. You're gonna find out Candice Owens and tacky Jerry Nadler, who I discovered this episode is not half. The man I thought he was. He was big. So we'll cover all that first butcher box delivers healthy one percent, grass-fed and finish beef free range or Ganic chicken heritage breed, pork and wild Alaskan salmon directly to your door, your mouth watering, drew. It is so good. The same. It's a game changer, man. Choose from four curated boxes. Or you can customize your box each box comes with between nine and eleven pounds of meat enough for twenty four individual meals, free shipping, anywhere, in the US, no Alaska, and Hawaii, also, no commitment. You can cancel anytime and free bacon for life with your subscription. 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And then anybody I say whatever I want everyone just laugh and not the whole time sit around. Hey butter. Yeah. And I could impregnate anyone at one judgment free. They go he died at seventy seven kids, this is the reason he didn't know any them. Here's a great blues player. No one ever go, what the flock at seventy seven kids. No judgment. I say, whatever one people wouldn't understand me, but they'd all agree that a head of kind of a wisdom. I mean I'm marks, but it kind of just thinking I could get anyone want pregnant, then never have to do anything about it, and it would be quite considered quaint, Gary look this up for me. But I think Dennis Rodman told me he's got like thirty brothers and sisters or forty or something easy like that. Well, call me old fashioned his dad was Philippino remember, right. Call me old fashioned, but it is certain point it becomes abuse in nickel act. Do you know what I mean dangerous? Thirteen of us living in a one bedroom in. It's like okay that's abuse. We cannot take care of everybody somebody using their penis. Like that is public enemy. Absolutely. Yeah. Look that. It's funny because we have no thoughts about that. We have tons of thoughts about the same guy. He was vaping in a park, right? Yes. Super. We have many thoughts about if that guy was ever vaping on a commercial airline, we'd have to have federal marshalls waiting for him, by the way, we would have to detour to, to Huysman to fix and land get that plane down before we got the Denver. But if he had one hundred thirty five kids, have no problem. We finding I'm sorry who has Rodman Dennis Rodman. I got him, confused runner test. I. There's nothing you could do to get me to care more about vaping than I do about dad's having multiple kids that they don't take care of right? 'cause I'm normal. I'm logical and fucking think clear-headedly I do not. I do not know I do know it's a chick think, and I do know we've convinced dudes to head over to the chick think there used to be a line in the sand a pink line. And it's like you cross that line. You start thinking like a chick, and then we're in trouble. Many dudes many dudes have crossed over that chick line. Like many many times. It's, it's fine. You know, when you're hanging out with the kids, it's not good when you're trying to solve problems, and it's not it's not good in terms of our society. If getting rid of vaping, job one and deadbeat dads, who have twenty five kids is neither here, nor there. That is not a good wiring for, for a society. And you gotta remember I was the one advocating for this. Right. For what you're calling chick thing in. And I guess because I thought at the time that we needed more relational quality to our lives. Oh. Oh, I got a thought for you. Drew the all right. I clark. Did you know there's? Black market for frequent flyer miles. It's right at least half dozen online. Markets have been list having listings from criminals trying to resell stolen frequent flyer miles make sense as usual. They're lazy and they're going after with low hanging fruit can go undetected for much because people aren't checking their account. I know I never take my flag that say that I don't want people to go after Mike out, and there's so many ways, of course, cybercriminals to take advantage and take with yours. And when person formation is exposed someone could use it to commit identity theft. Good thing, lifelock identity theft protection as the power north carried to help protect you against threats your, your devices that you can't easily fix on your own. Of course it is. Always lifelock. Just costume business in today's world when you use that internet. Right, man. That's right. Ellen can prevent all identity theft or cybercrime or monitor transactions at all businesses. But lifelock with Norton security can see threats you might miss on your own. Go to lifelock dot com or call one eight hundred lifelock and use promo code Adam for ten percent off your first year. That's promo code adamant. Lifelock dot com or one eight hundred lifelock for ten percent off Dennis Rodman's father claims that he has between twenty six and twenty eight Dennis himself has said that he's the oldest of forty seven forty seven forty seven. Well, it's child abuse, and I know we can't judge, but I'm fucking judging number one. Number two. We have an have had this theory, the theory is a flawed theory. The theory goes if we can take this town of Baltimore or New Orleans, or wherever if we can get a black mayor elected, then that will be much better for the black people in the town, because that black mayor understands those black people. And by the way, he's going to be compelled to help them. So if you're black, and you're living in Baltimore or Saint Louis or wherever, and we get a mayor. That shares the same skin colors. You then your problems. They might not be over. But they're going to get better fast. Okay. Nothing's further from the fucking truth. We also have this theory that women are kinder, gentler, the better, the clear there, whatever if we can get more women in positions of power, we will have a better world, which is what you thought I am in our corruptible, and blacks are corruptible and women. Don't treat women any better because they're women and black zone. Treat blacks, Don King fucked over more black fighters, and Bob Arum ever dreamt off. So the little Jewish devil, never did shit or or not nearly what Don King does, so this notion of like we gotta get a female thing because a female understands she's not going to wage war, and she's not gonna whatever and her thoughts are more. Volvo guys are out trying to fuck everything and they're making snap decisions. And there half drunk and half-cocked, or whatever it is. I'm not signing off on. That I think we did. I think there's a time when people went. Yeah. We just get a woman, there things better better decision. Calmer whatever now and I wasn't even so much so much looking for a position of power so much as generally developing our way of being in that direction, which even worse if your perspective. Yes. Yes, listen. My wife's nice, but you would not want her running this business. Your wife's nice, but you would not want her running your business doesn't mean they're flawed or wrong. It just means they're certainly not better, just because they're women, they have different qualities, and those quality seem kind of like nice. It'd be nice people like being a better mood over here for three weeks. And then with close down, but for those three weeks, you guys would be in a better mood. So this notion of like this group or that group. I mean, look, again, same week in a black mayor, then the black constituency will be. No. They won't that guy's not going to do anything for them or certainly not more or less than a white mare, or not more or less than a woman. It just really doesn't. It doesn't matter. Plus we're also pretty fluid because like. Margaret Thatcher was a woman. She, she ran a pretty big place, but we didn't really like her because she's conservative. So we shouldn't really, she's a woman, but not really woman that guys black, but that's clear Thomas black. That's not black black in. So we have also weird fluid definitions of who's really woman who's really black, depending on how they whether the conservative or liberal, or whatever it is. So how we ever gonna figure that one out? Right. I do like the fact that you can know you could see speaking black or woman, because you're conservative Candice. Not the either. She's not a woman over black because she crossed the line she she dared to argue. I do like the fact that she's like, how's this working for everybody and might you want to try to alter the course a little bit, and she's like heretic? Yeah. And Tom or whatever, whatever calling. And it's like. You can say what you want about Candice Owens, but I think her posing the question of the black community houses been working for the last fifty years. I think that's a fair question. Maybe maybe it's been going along swimmingly. Maybe that's the answer. But I think it's a fair enough. Question oppose say it sounds like a fair question drew fair. Stop stocking. I like Candice owns two and. I loved it when she was dressing-down Jerry Nadler. Oh, did she? Oh, oh, that was Nadler. That was. He is there a like like Buzek expo miss using improper language in the Senate chambers collie. Right. What's your name listening to me? It was crazy. God, I don't know that we play that carries you can find that I don't know what happened with so many people, but I thought I would find myself thinking to myself all the time. What if I had to? Make that deal with the devil that so many politicians of had to make where they have to saying things that are. Clearly untrue and insane. And whatever, because the half the support their party side, and it's an obviously with sound. I don't think you and I have that ability because. You sound too difficult. Like, here's what I'm taking care juice again. What I'm saying is this. When, when I get brought out on stage people will say, how would you like to be brought out on stage? And there's only one answer, which is what everyone I don't say whatever, say pearls here. Whatever whatever that is. I could never have a presentation here, read this and talk about what a great comedian. I was and have changed culture and everything like that. It never hundred million years. Could you do that could I do? Right. You just couldn't do it. Right. So by the same token, could you say? This guy's taken infants ripping it out of the arms of their mothers and throwing them in cages cages to die. Right. Did you say that you couldn't say that not with a straight face? You could talk about nuance or parts of that you disagreed with or ways to fix it. You could never just make those statements. Right. Right. Because, you know, you're lying, and then it would be weird. It'd be weird saying it and I can move towards. My exotic you know, like with the homeless thing, I, I will say, stop. That's intense because I when I know it's for real when I know things are really happening, right? But couldn't say things that you knew were untrue, it, especially not with intensity. No way. Well, also stuff where you just kind of. He got the context of it new. What it you knew, you know, enough about the subject to know what's going on. And you choose to spin it a weird way. Right. All right. Sorry. We got kennison's talking to Nadler. Yeah. Does. Does. We started recording would you like time to respond to that? Yes. I think it's pretty apparent that Mr. loop believes that black, people are stupid and will not pursue the full clip in its entirety. He purposely presented an xtrac, Nick strategy clip. Suspend from oment. It is not proper to refer disparagingly to a member of the committee. The witness will not do that, again, witness may continue. Sure, even though I was called despicable witness may not refer to a member of the committee is stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's what I said. That's not what I said at all. You didn't listen to what I said. May I continue? As I said, he's a sumo but to be fair to him, the Nadler, I think he's poisons brain with Grecian formula. My theory about guys who call her there with their, the route. The rue brain doctor, aren't you? Why did he hears gray physiology class? Crate that knows better. Do never dye, my hair. What's the okay through come out of when you? Okay. When the grass is poisoned, down into the water table. That's your brain. Okay. When you take this toxic, it's a toxin hoisin. Okay. Your brain is a bomb in your hair's diffuse. Hey so what happens when I lied? If you sit there, I like when people get you to sign off on nothing and then they move forward. Now light a fuse, it doesn't just sit there goes in where what, what direction does it go into the air toward the stick of dynamite that metaphor? Just blew my mind at Serai. So that's your brain, and this is the fuse, and you liked that fuse with Grecian form of. That's what happened drew tonight, drew. Yeah. What if okay Matt? What if I took a shoelace? Okay. Follow. Okay. I think shoelace, and I take a tall glass of grape juice. And I pour it. I pour the grape juice into the into the glass and you take that shoelace cut off, and you slowly lower it down until it breaks the surface of the grape juice. Would you not see the grape juice start to wick up the shoelace? Yes, you would. And that's exactly what's going on with Nadler's brain when he puts the Grecian formula. And so it's not his fault that didn't hear Kansas. Owens. True. It's the Grecian formula. That's right. Okay. He is saturated his brain with die. See line six Tom. Pennsylvania. Hello. What's the question Tom? What's going on, for some want to say, thanks, thanks for taking my call and longtime listener to this podcast as well as your your podcast as I appreciate it. Thanks, because listen, listen to everyday then saw that, by the way you take back and take a look at the old pictures Jerry Nadler back when during the Clinton, the Clinton scandals back in the nineties. Jerry Naylor was about twice the mandate used to be, or he's right. Oh, he was a various man sometime. His was massive. Oh, well, yeah. It's the where he was not Jerry Nadler, should shut up. And I'll tell you why. Because every single time this impeachment and Clinton, whatever stuff comes up, they pull up footage of him from nineteen Ninety-two like talking and his head. This unbelievably. You you're gonna freak out when you see how he's really, he's really old though he most guys morbidly obese. And if poisoner brain don't live to see their eightieth birthday, passed out the other day when to Blasi was talking next to all of a sudden, he's, he's just yet a syncopal episode. It's not good. Not know that no sorry, Tom go ahead, Carol, find up picture. That's okay. I appreciate appreciate it. But I guess the thing that the reason I'm calling is huge head. You got. I mean I'm not gonna make fun of it. But I'm surprised at drew doesn't know, massive, well, sorry, Thom gut. That's okay. He my questions about dealing with grief, and it's basically back in September. My mom passed away, and it's I guess the thing that I'm trying to figure out his I'm doing doing, but I can, you know, right now, I'm actually talking to you guys. I'm walking my dog doing I can to get out and waiting. From the back in September. So we're coming up on a year. Yeah it'll be a year in September. How old is your mind? She was. I was sixty eight oh, let's you, yeah. Yeah. Well, that, that she, actually she was young when, when she had me, my mom and dad got married. When they were nineteen we did them quietly. Wow. Oh my we're looking at Jerry Nadler. I mean he was massing. Wow. Now. Did you say like it's weird to drop that much weight at age fifty or something? I don't know. But he was a huge Falah. And I don't know. Bypass bills easy, right? Well, I don't know. I off the it says under wanna stomach surgery to aid the weight loss. Now that makes sense to me. Sorry, go ahead. No. That's okay. You know. I've just trying to figure out like you know, I'm doing what I can for myself. I mean, I you know, I work fulltime I got a family got two daughters, which, you know, they're beginning to ignore me already. Because eleven. You know, and we're just, you know, I'm just trying to figure out like, I, I guess the thing is I you know, I'm concerned about myself, you know, I can't even think about this stuff anymore with with, you know how to deal with it. And we just, you know, just had a, a friend of ours just passed away at forty seven and I guess the thing that I'm, I'm most concerned about. I think it's probably, I think ways on the most heavily like my dad, you know, he's, he's also sixty eight and I'm just trying to like I do what I can't like keeping that. You're. True. What is it with certain people that are like, oh, man? I'm at five and he died and James Dean died at thirty one and then Margot Gorshenin died at eighty two and then might mom is sixty eight and she died. And we had a friend of well not our friend, but a friend of a friend of one when at forty four like it's it seems. It seems like a bit of a bad wiring, because it's all around us. It that does exist many, many examples of it generalizing also many Tampa people living to- ninety and having a full rich life. You know what I mean? So it's there, there's a lot of examples wouldn't knows I knew couple guys, it didn't get to their nineteenth twentieth birthday, motorcycle accident car accident like it it's all out there. But in, you know, people if you make it to near fifty and when your parents are still alive and the other one just died. That's, that's not a bad adult run with your your parents. So Tom, right. So what I'm what I'm asking you to do is take care of your health. Get your screenings and your checkups. You know, each your eat your vegetables, and your vitamins, and do what you have to do the part, we have to process this happening. Ng allot or gonna happen or Wednesday going to happen that I don't feel like that's a, that's a good use of your time. It's no, no, you're right. It's like you're, you're issues around, death, and dying or for some reason overwhelming you right now. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no. I. No, that's, that's I guess the thing is, is that I'm just trying to like, what can I do to help a dad? You know, obviously I and I understand what you're saying, I'm focusing on, you know, brought up those other people and that's I guess it's just for me. It's there's, there's a new lens on it. Okay. I'm seeing, you know, I notice it a lot more. What is it? I just my concern is is that he, he doesn't do much. You know, he's, you know, he's retired. And he just, you know, he takes care of my kids, when you know, when it comes time it comes out, he walked dog, I'm for me, because he just lives down the street. And, you know, he's, he's looking telling me is like, you know, like, the, you know, maybe go, you know, get a buy a house in Ireland and I'm like, well, that's fine. If you wanna do that. And but it's like that's common, it's a comes and goes and I'm just trying to like, you know, I do what I can't like he him, you know, focused, which also helps keep me focused and credit life going. Yeah. There's a little bit of a scatter. Shun. Nece. Yeah. Over an over thinking that's going on take this in the spirit in which it's intended, I'm allowed to Jesus. You're doing a blue collar version of overthinking, and you shouldn't be over thinking your regular dude. You're good dude. You're young ish. Everything's fine. So in terms of your dad, you do what you do to help your dad, but don't examine it from every angle. You know what I mean? You dad your dad if he wants something from you. He he'll ask you be a good father. You'd be a good husband. You be good parent. It's on in a good pet owner in a good son and good employees and not, not examine everything from his many angles as you're examining things there's a little bit of cast, again excited. I think I can over think I'm a genius, which you have no crime, if I didn't over think things we think we be a waste of thinking. But you think there's all the scattered all those all anxiety that, that isn't anxious guy? And so he's worrying about that worrying about this controlling and you're right. Just to lead a good life. Well, should a guy like that? Try meditating should a guy like that? What should a guy like that do stuff Bill ship? In a bottle guy should go running or something? You know what I mean? That, that kind of thing. Okay. And, and try to discharge your anxiety and realize you've got a lot on your plate right now. You do you've lost your mom taking care of your dad, he saying crazy stuff. It will be Arlen put him to work as grants. The move to hire. 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Candace Owens is Bad

The Young Turks

59:47 min | 3 months ago

Candace Owens is Bad

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Thank you and stay tuned for the rest of the show. Welcome to typ. I'm your host casts burian and it's going to be an awesome awesome show. Listen i was honest with you guys yesterday okay. The stories slim pickens not a lot of news going on yesterday. It was really frustrating. Today though is a completely different story. We've got a bonanza for you. Okay in the words of jenky. Who isn't here but we'll be back next week. A bonanza so in the first hour today. Candace owens begging for a lesson on economics and you know what. I'm a good person. I want to provide that lesson. So all explained to kansas owens and anyone else who might be confused about why. The healthcare system in america sucks. Why does it. That's the case so we'll do a deep dive into that. Also later in this like an hour. John is roll. It will be joining me to talk about rideshare. Drivers workers taking to the streets. They're protesting their striking and they want to basically call out a prop twenty two in california which has been incredibly disastrous while also calling attention to the necessity for the pro act. So i'll give you those details as well and marjorie taylor green. Of course i mean how could we not talk about her. She is the most attention loving person on the planet but she also as a member of congress seems to have a complete misunderstanding of what hip regulations indicate. So we'll debunk. Some of her lies as well. But before we get to all of it as always just want occurs you guys to like and share the stream to smash that like button if you're not a member smash that Joined button if you're watching us on youtube or go to ty dot com slash joined to become a member. Today's bonus episode is going to be great because i experienced something at the dodgers game yesterday. That enraged me and it has nothing to do with sports but everything to do with capitalist incentives so definitely check that if you remember if you're not a member maybe you should joy just think about it. Think about it all right well with that sad. Let's get to our first story. Which i've been really excited to share with you guys today in an effort to spread anti corona virus vaccine messaging. Candice owens accidentally asked a pretty good question about healthcare in the united states. She did so through tweet. Which i'll share with you right now. She wrote quote. The covert vaccine saves lives. Which is why the government is making it free. Now she's quoted people who make that argument and her response to it is k. So explain to me why insulin. Asthma inhalers cost so much money. If the vaccines are really about the government trying to save your life why do lifesaving. Medicines cost so much. Well you know. That's actually a really great question candidates. I mean she's a member of the media. She's supposed to have some obligation to be an informed individual who then informs our audience but of course. That's not the case especially when it comes to important bread and butter issues like health care and other commodified institutions in the united states. Which really should be thought of as a human right but just to give her short one word answer. The reason is capitalism in both cases capitalism is what fuels the vaccine for corona virus being free capitalism also fuels this disgusting incredibly corrupt healthcare system in america that unfortunately doesn't really serve the best interests of americans so first let's start off with why the corona virus vaccine happens to be free. Is it because the american government wants to do the right thing and they want to take care of their citizens and that's that's just. It was all about morality and doing the right thing. No there is a real financial incentive ensuring that americans get vaccinated and the spread of corona virus either slows down or stops. Because guess what when you have incredibly contagious. Virus the so-called human capital. That's necessary meaning the labor that gets exploited by corporations to help them earn revenue intern prophets. Well that's jeopardized and we can't have that. In fact we gotta do a little bit of a rewind to understand what. I'm saying here so before i do that though. I think this is a perfect opportunity to take a little visit in the bunker. Didn't see republicans control the senate try to rig the game how the green new deal would be a deadly built for the united states of america. Our systems are not racist. The chronic virus vaccine is free. Because of the chart that i'm about to show you. This is the chart showing what happened to the stock market as the corona virus pandemic lead to closures in the united states. Of course i'm talking about business closures. Which hurt the bottom line for. Corporations throughout the country with the exception of course of corporations that allow people to work from home like zoom for instance did incredibly well during the pandemic but the stock market took a plunge to a massive plunge. Okay they call them dumps big dumps as donald trump would say and so corporations are freaking out there like were. The closures are awful. We need to slow the spread slow the spread and then once they realized he can't slow the spread. It's too hard. Let's start urging lawmakers to open businesses backup prematurely and get people back to work and the conversations that were taking place in early twenty twenty in the beginning of this pandemic. we're just so transparent. In fact people like kevin hassard were overt in their rhetoric regarding labor and how corporations and the us government really viewed workers take a look. We don't have our capital stock. Hasn't been destroyed. Our human capital stock Is ready to get back to work. And so that there are lots of reasons to believe that we can get going way faster than we have in previous crises are capital. Stock is totally fine. Human capital is totally fine. Let's get them back to work. Now mind you. This was early on. In the pandemic there was no vaccine There was still a lack of clarity regarding masks. And there was all sorts of disinformation about the pandemic but you have republican members of trump's administration urging for americans to prematurely go back to work and put their lives in danger in order to ensure that the stock portfolios of the elites in. This country aren't harmed by this global pandemic now that was followed by the way With various Right wing governor's the lieutenant governor of texas attend governor dan patrick of course urging even elderly people to get back to work which was absolutely hideous and disgusting now. Luckily most states continued with the shutdown. Some states did open prematurely. Like texas and florida for instance And there was a price to pay We have now over six hundred thousand americans who have died as a result of this pandemic. Now why was the trump administration and now the biden administration. Doing whatever it takes to develop a vaccine and get as many people vaccinated as possible. Well because they want people to get back to work guys and in order to get people back to work in order incentivise getting the vaccine. You should make it free right. I mean you don't want to provide some sort of obstacle to people getting vaccinated. Now let's get to the next video. Because i think that's also telling i'm also pleased to report. Today that a vaccine candidate has begun the phase one clinical trial. This is one. The fastest vaccine development launches in history. Not even close. We're also racing to develop antiviral therapies and other treatments and we've had some promising results early results promising to reduce the severity and the duration of the center of the symptoms. And i have to say that. Our government is prepared to do whatever it takes. Our government is willing to do whatever it takes. Donald trump didn't really care about the well. Being of the american people when he cared about was getting a vaccine making sure that people get vaccinated so they get back to work. That's about now to the second part of candice owens's question. Why is the corona virus vaccine free. Remember we're talking about a contagious virus. That has killed. Hundreds of thousands of americans while other medications are not free and she mentions insulin diabetes and all that well diabetes is a big problem in the united states. But it's not part of the pandemic. It's not a contagious virus. And so when it comes to other illnesses that americans are suffering from that's when capitalism also plays a role in incentivizing price-gouging to ensure that the healthcare industry and the private pharmaceutical companies. Make as much money as humanly possible Off of the pain and suffering of americans and we see that happening over and over again. so why. don't we take a quick look at how much americans pay for pharmaceutical drugs compared to other countries. So get five of the top selling prescription drugs in the world advair a branding. Asthma inhaler more expensive in the us. Lantis type of insulin. More expensive in the us savoldi for hepatitis c. Yup cost more in the. Us humira forthrightness crest or for cholesterol. More expensive in the us. So here's an unsurprising. Americans spend more on prescription drugs than anyone else in the world. Now why is that. Why do americans spend so much more on pharmaceutical drugs and other developed countries. I thought america was number one. I thought we were the best. I thought we had the best economic model ever ever. Capitalism reigned supreme except when it comes to commodifying things that we need for survival maybe capitalism. Isn't such a great idea. In fact that vox video continues on to express why it is. Americans end up spending more on pharmaceutical drugs compared to other countries the uk. The government buys the stock of medicine for the country. That means they're usually able to get a lower rate kind of like a bulk discount which keeps prescription drugs cheaper for uk citizens in almost every developed country. Besides the us. This is what the system looks like. Safety evaluation assessment of whether the country needs it price to go stations sold to patients. Now let's look at the system in the united states i. The drug is evaluated for safety. But that's it. If it safe they can sell it end of story. Drugs are sold by drug companies to patients usually through insurance and since the us system lets them sell it for any price. Gilead the company that makes a volley charged americans more for it when it first came to market the entire treatment cost eighty four thousand dollars in the us in the uk just about fifty eight thousand dollars. That's still a lot of money but it's a full thirty percent less now. There's an important caveat to the figures that were just shared in that video it doesn't take into account health insurance which works very differently in the united states versus the uk as we know privatized model here in the united states with some exceptions for elderly or disabled people Medicare is something that luckily elderly americans can take advantage of. But outside of that and statewide medicaid programs americans unfortunately have to resort to private insurers. And what do private. Insurers want. More than anything to turn a profit. It is a model. That incentivizes prophet and that means cutting costs to increase profits. How do you cut costs. You deny coverage for things like pharmaceutical drugs or coverage for procedures that need to be done medical procedures. Of course. The model in the uk is actually very different. And i would. Argue is a far better model because the figures that were shared in that video Do not indicate what patients in the uk. Actually have to pay out of pocket for that. Particular drug at the center of the uk system sits the national health service founded in one thousand nine hundred forty eight. The nhs goes beyond single payer healthcare into truly socialized medicine. The government doesn't just pay for services it also runs hospitals and employs doctors. The system is financed through taxes. Everyone is covered in supplemental. Private insurance is rare. Meaning that the care that individuals in the uk need is free at the point of service whereas in the united states americans literally skip their yearly physicals or even seeing a doctor when something ails them. Because they're worried about going bankrupt if it turns out that they're actually very sick. I mean we live in a six system and candice owens to credit wants to learn about it so i'm glad that she's giving me the opportunity to explain it to her now. Why is it that we maintain this awful awful system especially when we've had proposals from wonderful lawmakers like senator bernie sanders to switch over to a single payer healthcare system which of course gives us more power to negotiate lower drug prices. Well we also have a system of legalized bribery here in the united states. And i want to just give you a little taste little taste of how much pharmaceutical companies and private insurers lobbied in recent years so spending on pharmaceutical industry lobbying reached a record amount in twenty twenty more than three hundred and six million dollars compared to just two hundred ninety nine million dollars in two thousand nine thousand nine hundred. There were one thousand five hundred to pharmaceutical lobbyists in two thousand nine hundred sixty three point. Five eight percent of whom were former government employees. Because not only. Do we have a system of legalized bribery. We also have that revolving door where lawmakers lead washington to lobby for various corporations. And you know they've got the connections. They can hit up their former colleagues in congress. And be like yo. Let's defeat that bill. Let's ensure that we don't have a healthcare system in america that actually works in the best interest of the american people now. I'm not done yet. As i mentioned in the uk they have the national health. Service is certainly much better than what we have here. In the united states now in twenty sixteen the commonwealth fund actually surveyed eleven high income countries about costs related barriers to care and americans were actually the most likely to skip needed care because of costs. Which thirty three percent have done so over the past year. That's what they found in the study. They also found this residents of the united kingdom. Were among the least likely with only seven percent saying the same. The same was true notably of dental care. Which isn't covered by private health insurance. You have to buy dental care separately. America thirty two percent of americans said they skip needed dental care services due to cost well. Only eleven percent of britons. Did the same by the way we also happen to spend a lot more for the crappy healthcare model that we get here in the united states compared to the uk. I mean a huge argument is will. How're you gonna pay for single payer healthcare system. It sounds real expensive. No it's actually not the case. That's a lot of propaganda misinformation in fact in twenty sixteen healthcare spending in the united states equalled more than seventeen percent of the country's gdp that's gross domestic product while the share of health. Spending in britain was only nine point. Seven percent Pretty fascinating and when adds insult to injury. Miss owens is the fact that americans are not only price gouged by these pharmaceutical companies. Americans pay more for these pharmaceutical drugs than any other developed country. We also spend money on the research and development of the very drugs that then turn around and we get price gouged on so Actually address this during a house oversight committee hearing about two years ago because she wanted to talk about. Rnd spending but also what. These pharmaceutical companies tend to do with their profits. Less watch a lot has been made about how much money has been spent on research development between two thousand and six and two thousand fifteen about four hundred and sixty five billion dollars was invested. In research and development i think everydollar put into research and development of pharmaceuticals is a good dollar spent. But let me see mr mitchell. Are you familiar with stock buybacks. I know what they are. And what is a stock buyback. It's when a company decides to purchase shares of its stock in order to drive up its stock price. So between those roughly ten years four hundred and sixty five billion was spent on research and development. The amount that pharmaceutical spent on that same time to dry to buy their own stock for the sole purpose of driving up the price was five hundred. Sixteen billion dollars so they spent more than their entire budget on research and development on on a tactic to drive up their own stock and of course executive pay is tied to the performance of the stock so if the stock does well the executives get paid more. And that's part of the reason why so much gets invested in buying shares of the company stock. And when you want actual figures in regard to how much americans spend in the research and development of the drugs that we need but can't afford i want to give you those numbers a center for integration of science and industry The study under underwritten by the national biomedical research foundation. Map the relationship between h funded research and every new drug approved by the fda between twenty ten and two thousand sixteen. Here's what they found. The authors found that each of the two hundred ten medicines approved for market came out of research supported by the nih. Meaning the tax payers of the one hundred billion. It spent nationally during this period. More than half of its sixty. Four billion ended up helping the development of eighty four first in class drugs so taxpayers fund research and development for these pharmaceutical drugs. And then we can't afford them because we have a model in america a capitalistic model that calls for privatizing the gains meaning the prophets and socializing the losses so there is socialism in america. It's just corporate socialism. It's socialism that takes money from all the workers who are already exploited and it floats up to the top. We redistribute redistribute that wealth all the way to the top of the very people who don't need it because if you need money if you're someone who's strapped liquidity and cash you're not going to be buying shares of your own stock but pharmaceutical companies get to do that. That's legal in america. Used to be illegal and they're also able to charge. Americans whatever the hell they want for these drugs so that's why this system is broken candidates. Hopefully she watches this video and has a better understanding of how capitalism really works. My guess is based on previous statements that she's made that were just not so smart. I'll be generous. She's probably not going to absorb this information but hopefully anyone who questioned this model and thought that we were number one in healthcare in the united states. Maybe you change your mind a little bit. Maybe you read into it. A little more and understand that americans are needlessly dying. Because of capitalism americans get the vaccine for free because of capitalism because to corporations americans workers are nothing more than human capital to be exploited to help them earn a profit. That's it that's all it is. We gotta take a break. We'll be right back. Welcome back to ty t. anna catharine with you. Let's get right to our next story. Kansas owens who tends to mock the left as people who engage in the oppression olympics people who love to make themselves. The victims is now making herself and conservatives victims. But she's doing so in. What are the most ignorant ways imaginable. Let's watch dehumanisation. During the holocaust the nazis referred to jewish people as rats. Another haunting humanization. Because what has to happen before the massive affliction of any atrocity is the treatment of individuals as subhuman. Bring us up because right now in. This country in america and serves are being dehumanized. I'm gonna say that again. Conservatives right now in. The united states of america are being dehumanized. That is not up for debate over the weekend on twitter. I saw a hashtag. Maggots trending magassa spelled m. a. g. a. t. s. Obviously a play off of mega and served as that support. Trump are now being called maggots. That trend is allowed on twitter. The idea is to make millions of people leave that conservatives are vermin and of course berman asked to be dealt with right. That is why the biden regime stepping to the plate and deal with us. So why is she calling for censorship of speech on twitter. Because she doesn't like that maggots are trending. And look i mean. I don't condone that type of rhetoric. I think that it is extremely toxic. And i don't think it's helpful. Were already incredibly divided. But i would argue that candace. Oh and should probably take a little bit of responsibility for how her rhetorical takes on controversial issues have also been incredibly divisive and dehumanizing. Now i get to all of that. I do want to go to an older video. Featuring candice owens because while she. I think rightly points to the horrendous barbarism and mass slaughter That was carried out by nazis earlier. She seemed to have a much lighter. Take on who. Hitler was and what his objectives were. I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism. I think that it gets The definition gets poisoned By elitist had actually want globalism. Globalism is what. I what i don't want so when you think about whenever we say nationalism the first thing people think about in at least and america's hitler you know he was a national socialist. But if hitler just wanted to make germany great and have things run. well okay. Fine problem is is that he wanted. He had dreams outside of germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be german everybody to speaking german everybody to look a different way. That's not to me that's not nationalism. I mean if you wanted to just slaughter. Jewish people in germany. It'd be totally fine. But the problem is he wanted to go global. You know what i'm saying. He didn't want to keep it within. Its borders was the real problem now. She walked those statements back a little later because they were insane and deeply deeply offensive ignorant and embarrassing but i would argue that the statement she made today were just as deeply ignorant and embarrassing because to argue that the treatment of conservatives in america can be equated to the persecution and slaughter of jewish people. Under hitler's rule is just look. What world is she living in. I mean six million. Jews were slaughtered by hitler. The nazis six million. We're living in a situation in the united states where conservatives. I mean we can't even get republican lawmakers to agree to an investigation into what took place on january six in our nation's capital as a group of trump's supporters stormed the capital violently. I mean just use brutality toward capital police who were outmanned. you can't even get republican lawmakers to investigate them. They don't wanna do it then. I wanna do it. Republicans in the senate blocked legislation to form a january six commission to investigate what happened in the nation's capital that day but you know conservatives are really persecuted because sometimes people say mean things on twitter and that's the same as as being persecuted like the jews were from the nazis. How stupid is that. How stupid how who would allow her like who works with her and says no. That's what candace nailed it nailed it. This is going to be a good segment nailed it. Come on man. you're producer doing dirty girl. They need to sit you down and take a look at what you're planning on saying. Because that was horrendous now in terms of dehumanizing people candice owens has engaged in her fair share of dehumanizing behavior in fact to minimize just absolutely minimize racism in the country. bigotry in the country. You know situations in which systemic racism and discrimination fundamentally impacts the lives of people of color in this country. Yes black people but not just black people muslims. We're talking about Hispanics latinos it is a. It is a problem but she thinks it's not a problem at all. She in fact Thinks that they need to stop seeing themselves as victims. Now here's one of her statements from two thousand seventeen. She said quote. I don't care about charlottesville the k. k. k. or white supremacy. I mean there are what six thousand klansmen left in our nation. You want me to actually process. That is a legitimate fear. Every day when i wake up okay. Here's another one again. From twenty seventeen there was only one version of black person that these platforms are willing to help propel toward fame and notoriety and that is an angry black victim schwantz. You know black people to stop complaining. Stop with the victimhood. While she turns herself into a victim today on the same level as jews who were persecuted and slaughtered by the nazis and she of course loves to dehumanize anyone who doesn't fit a very traditional conservative. Mauled for instance. Remember when harry styles did that photo. Shoot for vogue. Where you know. He was wearing a dress and everyone thought it was great. Because who cares. Express yourself has no negative impact on anyone's life. Well she had to weigh in on that and she felt that it was. It was a huge problem. There's no society that can survive without strongmen. She says the knows this in the west. The steady feminization of our men at the same time. That marxism is being taught. Marxism is not being taught to our children. But that's what she claimed is not a coincidence. It is an outright attack. Bring back manly men. Of course she doesn't think the transgender people deserve the same rights as everyone else and we also can't forget the fact that she works for a guy who has no problem dehumanizing others including palestinians. Go to ben shapiro tweet from twenty ten where he said israelis like to build arabs. He's referring the palestinians here like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue. Yeah lot of dehumanizing rhetoric going around the thing is when you make yourself a victim of dehumanizing rhetoric maybe take a moment for self reflection maybe take a good hard. Look at that glass mansion. You're living in before you start throwing stones. Because again while i might agree that the you know trending topic that she was referring to is not helpful. I don't like it. And i wish that we didn't have that kind of discourse on twitter. She also needs to take responsibility for being a huge part of how political discourse is completely devolved in this country leading to more division more hatred. More hate crimes. She's wanted to any responsibility for any of that. And i think it's about time she does it all right. Let's move on to our next story We've had enough. Kansas update on infrastructure senate. Republicans have blocked a procedural. Vote on the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill because of course they have of course they half but this might actually be a good thing. According to david day from the american prospect. We'll get to him in just a minute. But first some important details on what occurred today so senate majority leader chuck schumer pushed for a procedural vote in order to begin. Debate on the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill which as you guys know. I have huge problems with It appears that the bill isn't even written but the whole point was to begin the debates on What will be in the final version of the bipartisan. Bill but senator rob portman a republican Said no we're not ready. We're just not ready. And we're going to block this effort now in order for the procedural vote to pass You need at least sixty senators in the senate to vote in favor of it. of course we didn't have enough republican lawmakers to do it. And so here's senator portman explaining why it is that republicans blocked this bill. Burr gonna go ahead with reconciliation joe. They always were and then we understand this to vote today. They wanted to be able to say that. You didn't vote for it so they had to go ahead with budget reconciliation. Yeah i mean what what they'd like to be able to say today that we're we're not supporting it we are. We just want time to get it right. it's too important for us to russia. Vote here for an arbitrary deadline. So today we're not going to be able to support moving forward. We won't be able to on monday. And i hope that's what the majority leader decides to do is to but this photo until monday if he doesn't he'll offer the again on monday i believe and we'll be ready to go. I mean what our senate republicans and senate democrats going to work real hard throughout the weekend and then they can vote on this on monday like what i was confused like what is going on. Well david dain did a good job breaking this down and remember guys bipartisan infrastructure. Bill is different from the reconciliation. Bill the reconciliation bill Will spend about three point five trillion a trillion dollars assuming that passes and it is expected to pass. I mean. I'm being very generous. And the way i'm describing it. But the intention is to pass the more robust infrastructure bill as a separate standalone bill through reconciliation which just requires a simple simple majority in the senate rather than the sixty senators necessary under the legislative filibuster. So schumer on monday You know pushed the legislative process forward. Even though the bill has yet to be written by filing a motion to proceed with a show bill that he can later swap. The infrastructure text into on tuesday schumer rejected republican calls to slow down the process. Now to invoke cloture just to reiterate again to invoke cloture and trigger hours of debate in the senate schumer needs the support of sixty senators in a chamber that is divided fifty fifty between republicans and democrats so since we didn't have enough republicans. Vote in favor of this They blocked it right now. Why is this like what is the tactic. David day and explains writing that scene from one angle. The schumer gambit of calling a vote while met with seething anger from republicans absolutely worked how negotiations over the final pieces of the portman cinema bill. And that's the Bipartisan bill weren't going anywhere until schumer called the vote and the bluff of republican senators. Were now on a path where senators are talking about wrapping up next monday. That wasn't going to happen without a deadline. So essentially what day and is arguing here. Is that chuck schumer smartly pushed for a tactic that would actually lead to a deadline on on this on the negotiation process or the debate on this bill right. So they're going to do this. Vote on monday. it's likely that they'll get the republicans to play along And that's good news because we need to figure out what the final and this is important. Reconciliation bill will entail and remember. These are two bills that are supposed to kind of work together so let me explain. That schumer also needed to get clarity on portman cinema again. That's the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill before crafting the vehicle for the reconciliation package right now. The package stands at three point. Five trillion but the expectation is that if portman cinema falls apart which is still likely to happen by the way the new spending in the reconciliation bill would be folded in pushing the figure to four point one trillion so in other words if republicans are gonna stall if republicans are going to block the bipartisan effort to pass an infrastructure bill. Democrats are getting ready to bake in parts of the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill into the final reconciliation. Bill which i think is smart. And i think it's necessary in fact if it were up to me i probably wouldn't have even bothered with republicans to begin with but my guess is that democrats want to show a good faith effort in working with republicans reaching across the aisle and this is their effort maybe to show americans that it's nearly impossible to work with republicans they have no interest now. It is important to drill down the spending for the reconciliation. Bill and this tactic does just. That is david dain. Explains you have to make the head space for that. In the budget resolution which instructs the reconciliation process with top line numbers that set the limit for spending if the senate passed a three point five trillion dollar budget resolution. They couldn't fold in. They couldn't fold in the outstanding money from the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill so it's fate needs to be clear ahead of the budget vote. You guys see what's happening here so it's already it's gotten to a point. Democrats are like either. They're going to work with us or they're not and this is their last chance if they're not going to work with us. We're moving on and we're drafting this. Reconciliation bill with everything we need including provisions from the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill that we'd like to include in the final reconciliation bill now I do also want to give you a little more detail into how unlikely bipartisan. Bill is gonna pass because they can't agree on the so called pay fors. How are you going to pay for now. Biden said listen. Why don't we spend about eighty million dollars on funding the irs. To ensure that they catch these high income earners tax evaders and cheats and that is supposed to bring a pretty significant return on the investment. At least one hundred billion dollars but republicans don't want that on substance putin's portman cinema. The bipartisan bill has gotten worse with each passing day. I there was the inevitable. Republican pullout of the investment. Irs enforcement a political party that has dedicated itself to starving. The irs of revenue was highly unlikely to green light. Forty billion dollars for that agency. So biden in the democrats caved a little bit and said okay. Fine said of eighty million. Can we do. Forty million and republicans are now now now now. Our corporate donors don't want that they don't wanna have to worry about being audited. If they're you know dodging their taxes or evading taxes and as always conservative. Democrats are serving as an obstacle because democratic moderates are apparently so focused on getting a deal that they're allowing the gop to chip away at the substance again. We're talking about the bipartisan deal. And even that hasn't guaranteed passage so if this is a real sign that democrats are finally on their way to passing one robust reconciliation. Bill that includes the private infrastructure. Not private Includes the Physical infrastructure along with the human infrastructure. Fantastic but. Dan asks another question. That i think is incredibly important are they also gonna bake. In assuming the bipartisan infrastructure bill fails the pretty toxic and awful provisions of that bill into the reconciliation bill. Because remember one of the things that's been floating around is the idea of selling off a hundred billion dollars worth of public infrastructure to private companies in order to raise money to pay for other infrastructure projects. I think that that's horsecrap. And i don't think that they should sign onto that under any circumstance and of course i'm talking about democrats. Are they should reject that at any and all costs. We don't know what the final reconciliation bill is gonna look like. We don't know if the final reconciliation bill is gonna pass even with all the provisions that we want because we still have to deal with the mansions and the cinemas and the warriors in the senate the corporate democrats who are bought off by the corporate donors as the republican senators. So while this might be smart strategy by schumer and maybe democrats in the senate are headed in the right direction. There are still obstacles in the way and the remaining question for me is what are democrats going to do to strategize. What strategy are they gonna use to apply pressure to the corporate democrats in the senate to ensure that every single one of them is on board to vote. Yes on the reconciliation bill until they answer that question. Everything else is just fun talk. They need to get it done and the way to do that is to ensure that mansion cinema warner all the other corporate democrats go along with what we need and that is a robust robust infrastructure. Bill that focuses on public You know physical infrastructure along with human infrastructure like funding for healthcare expansion of medicare You know you have money and funding for elder care child care. These are things that we need and if democrats get it done i promise you. That's going to have a far larger impact on unity. Then anything else. That biden can do so. We'll see how it all plays out and of course we'll fill you guys in as we get the updates for now though. Let's take a quick break when we come back. We will talk a little bit about the state of texas and its efforts to erase history. Welcome back to. Typ anna cast burien with you. Wanna read a quick a quick. Ty t. live comment from twitter. Michael napen good friend of the show. Rights wednesdays are not only amicus berry and solo It's also and this is my favorite part. Edm break music by our very own bark. Kyle so on the ones in to just make magic happen so if you're hearing that music it's because i love it so thank you all. Well let's get to our next story Because the anti education brigade Is going even further in regard to banning educators from teaching things that they should be teaching so the texas state senate has just voted in favor of one of governor. Greg abbott's agenda items and yes. It has to do with critical race theory and how it should be banned from public schools but it goes even further. It goes a step further. And i wanna tell you exactly what this is. Well senate bill. Three states that a teacher may not be compelled to discuss a particular current event or widely debated and currently controversial issue of public policy or social affairs. Oh it's fascinating So what does that include. Well the bill is a follow up to an already passed house. Bill that abbott signed in may now among the changes in sb three is the removal of a reference to the kkk. Being morally wrong from the house. Bill thirty seven seventy-nine which is set to become law in september so they want to ban teachers from teaching about the kkk. Candice owens just wants everyone to know that conservatives in america are being you know condemned and dehumanize the same way that jews were by the nazis they have no power you guys they have no power i mean they run state legislatures You have right wing. Governors across the country Essentially signing laws that not only suppressed voting rights but also suppressed educators from being able to do their jobs. but you know conservatives. They're the real victims here. They're you know very very sad. Now here's what else senate bill three in texas bands. An individual bears responsibility. The teachers are not allowed to teach this an individual bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of their racer sex. An individuals should feel discomfort guilt anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of their race or sex. So let's stop right there because understand what that is what that entails so don't make any students feel anguish about this country's awful history of racism of slavery i mean. I don't think that students should feel personally responsible but to say that teaching any type of content that leads to anguish among students to ban. That is we know what they're doing. It's just abundantly clear. And by the way i know i've said this a billion times before i'm going to say it again. It's important to reiterate it critical race. Theory is typically curriculum. That's taught at a graduate level so the critical race theory debates and censorship. That's taking place right. Now is honestly based on fear mongering regarding a non-issue like they're worried and they're they're pretending to be worried that like elementary students like middle school students and maybe even high school students like they're learning critical race theory and the whole point of critical race theories for them to hate their country and to hate the white man. That's not happening and that's critical race. Theory is but you know. Let's deflect from the fact that texas still has a broken down. Privatize deregulated power grid. That left texans dead during the last winter storm. We'd want to talk about that. We're talking about real problems. Okay let's not talk about how infrastructure and whole condos are collapsing and killing. Hundreds of people in places like florida where critical race theory critical race. Theory is a real problem. Okay also The bill bans Discussion of slavery and racism As anything other than deviations from betrayals of failures to live to live up to the authentic authentic found principals of the united states. Now there's a different angle that i want to focus on in in regard to the motivations behind what abbott is doing in the state of texas. I mentioned the deflections i mean. They don't wanna talk about the bread and butter issues right. Wingers love the culture wars. The culture wars like their warm blanket at night. They can't get enough of it but abbott even as he's you know doing hideous things and proving himself to be a good conservative for the republican party is being challenged from the right from the right. He's not conservative enough because of course not of course not so apparently he has a primary challenger and that could be motivating fueling his objectives with some of the horrendous stuff. He's been doing in the state of texas in texas. Gop governor abbot who faces a contested. Re-election primary next year is pushing looser gun laws than he ever previously embraced and also proposing unprecedented state actions including promises to build more walls on the mexican border and also While abbott echoed trump's partisan positions and has banked fifty five million dollars in campaign funds more than any sitting governor in history. It's just not enough. He's drawn a challenge from allen west. Who until recently was the chairman of the texas. Gop west tea party firebrand and former florida congressman has attacked abbots leadership after democrats temporarily thwarted a gop voting bill by decamping to washington so allen west is providing primary challenge to abbott. And what's amazing is that abbott is being held accountable for democrats in the state fleeing the state in order to block the passage of voter suppression bill and so abbott has threatened to arrest the democrats who fled the state and once you understand that self preservation and just pure political motivation is behind these decisions. You get a sense of just how disgusting and deplorable people like greg. Abbott really are because there are no guiding principles right. There's there's really nothing here about doing right by abbots constituents doing right by the voters texas you know fundamentally improving their lives finding ways to provide material improvements to their lives. Maybe you know maybe a little bit of regulation for that power grid. That's been such a disaster. Maybe just a little little tiny bit. No no no. He's going to go and do the things that provide conservative fodder right but also it's political theater. It's right wing political theater. That doesn't serve any purpose. Other than self preservation for governor. Greg abbott who wants to remain in power these power-hungry goons don't even care about the people in their own state much less anyone else in the us. So let's loosen up the already. Lax gun laws. Let's pass voter suppression bills. Let's do the most unhinged things we can imagine just to hold onto that power that's what adds up to. It's pretty gross. All right final story. Before we bring john i'd rolla in. This is one of my favorite stories of the day. Let's do it. He must sees them. Stop it blad. You know the rule if you want to regulate something. Go regulate the mess in your own. What exactly was that dumpster fire. Well it turns out that there is this new ad for anti-socialist books for children. It's floating around internet drawer attention today and we wanted to share it for you. The company is called turtle twins and their marketing. Apparently is not sitting well with youtube watchers. Because if you look at the like to dislike ratio. It did not do well. Let's take a look at this graphic ratio pre hard pretty decent view count though almost one hundred forty thousand last time. I checked now. Let's watch another clip from this incredibly dorky ad and then punt packet now. My kids are being told by the media and even the school system that socialism is great. He just get rid of all these before. We'll finally be happy. No honey that just means. We'll pour. I want to teach my kids right but it is so hard to find age appropriate material to teach them about the principles of freedom. The blocks are the supply and when people want them. That's demand is that what that meant when he said you demanding some great acting. They're really good stuff No i mean they're right there so right you know. You look a communist country socialist countries and they're just really struggling and everything you know. They're having a tough time whereas here in the united states were prospering. All right we wake up and we hustle we rise and grind. We work real hard. We're producing more than ever before and you know what we're living the good life right right right. I dunno Look across the city that ten stretch everywhere from hollywood to venice beach scenes from what could be a disaster movie now a seemingly permanent fixture on the streets of los angeles. If you're not shocked by what you see then i. I don't know what you cast powers the world's best podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend this is kenya. Director and co founder of domino sound and this is alexander pomme executive producer and co founder of domino. Sam and we're a queer. Disabled black woman owned podcast production company and network creating authentic inclusive provocative content. We just launched domino presents which is a new series of special audio projects the premiere episode features the founders of poppy juice the queer art collective during the hottest parties in new york city and around the world. We also recommend that she code are hit ten episode audio soap operas rounding love affair think seven hip hop meets the affair. Sopranos follow us on. I g at domino sound ceo to keep up and listen to our shows on the app or wherever you get your podcast just search domino sound. Can't be recommends be shocked by. I mean i'm shocked. I thought i thought that our economic model was wonderful. And i thought that no one lives in poverty and everyone's like doing really really well Looks like that's not really the case. Also i mean look. That was a video from los angeles. It's just these corporate democrats and their lack of leadership. That's led to this but i don't know maybe we should look at the bigger picture What's going on with inequality in the united states especially during a pandemic right well over the last sixteen months since the formal beginning of the pandemic lockdown the combined wealth of seven hundred thirteen. Us billionaires has surged by one point eight trillion dollars a gain of almost sixty percent the total combined wealth of us billionaires increase from two point nine trillion on march eighteenth. Two thousand twenty two four point seven trillion on july ninth of twenty twenty one. I'm not done yet. I have just a little more statistics. Because you know a dorky video where you're pretending to be a good mom by indoctrinating your kid about socialism and all of its evil ways Isn't really great in debunking. The facts that i'm about to share with you. So for instance the wealthiest one percent health thirty two point one percent of the total Up twenty three point. Four percent in nineteen eighty nine. The top ten percent of households owned seventy dollars of every one hundred dollars in household wealth up from sixty one dollars in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine all looks like a wealth. Gap is growing. It's weird the bottom. Half who share never exceeded five percent now holds just two percent of household wealth in the united states. But i'm sure all those corporate executives just worked harder right. They work so hard one more clip from that stupid ad. I now have the tuttle toilets to help us the title. Twins is a series of books written for freedom loving parents that teach correct principles about free markets in clear and relatable stories. You know clear and relatable so opposite of socialists. Yeah except socialism actually pretty relatable even here in the united states where most things unfortunately are commodified. So let me give you. I think the most obvious examples social security is a socialist program. It's a government run pension system that cuts out private money. Managers medicare a single payer government. Run health insurance program for those over. Sixty five is also a socialist program. Now do americans like it i mean. Are they familiar with it. And if they are familiar with it do they like it. Well in its eighty fifth year social security enjoys over ninety percent support among democrats republicans and independence according to an aarp survey of fourteen. A little over fourteen hundred people ages eighteen and older So ninety six percent of those polled regardless of affiliation meeting political affiliation said social security was either the most important government program or an important one compared with other government programs and two and five of those surveyed said they will rely on social security as a substantial source of income in retirement more than sixty nine million people almost and almost nine out of ten of those sixty five and older get social security benefits according to the social security administration fascinating so it looks like it looks like that pro capitalist antisocial. Ism ad was full of lies. Wow who could have saw that coming. Maybe that's what explains the like to dislike ratio one more graphic for you. The minimum wage maximum our and child labor laws that go back more than a century are likewise socialist programs in that the government intervenes in the capitalist market to require employers to meet minimum standards that might not be met in a pure unregulated free market agricultural and energy subsidies meaning corporate welfare are likewise socialist programs. So let me just know that. Arab love socialism k. People who unfortunately don't get enough of it in the form of social security and medicare love it so much that every time. Republicans are in charge can actually cut these programs. They never do it. they never do it. Because there's a political price to pay if they actually go through with it but the people in this country who love socialism the most or corporations the ones who get tax subsidies the pharmaceutical companies. That love taxpayer. Funded research and development. Because they don't want to take the risk. How the american taxpayer take the risk. They love to socialize. The costs privatize the prophets. So that ad was stupid and there's really nothing else to say about it. We're gonna take a break when we come back. Johnny rolla joins me for more of this. Bonanza don't miss it we'll be right back.

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I've never seen rain like that in new york. At least not in recent memory. And i know folks in new orleans thinking about you too and and easy anna still dealing with power outages and flooding and all those issues after ida. So we're we're thinking about you and trying to get the word out also for people to donate to relief. Efforts majority of afghan interpreters were left behind We'll get to that today for sure because that begs the question. The forces the question. What exactly were we doing. Who are we getting out. And we of course leftover one hundred americans behind the supreme court in a five four move allows texas's abortion restriction to stand although it's not decided on the merits or anything will break that down a lawyer hat. Clay is here. We're going to get into it. All the statutes and legal interpretations of it florida's gonna find businesses and schools that require vaccine proved five thousand dollars. And there's that leak of the biden phone call those that's all coming up but let's start with something else today. Joe rogan who plan. I both agree now. We really got to have him on clayton now. The joe rogan. We're putting out the bat symbol. But it's the the joe symbol. Or i guess the rogan symbol. Because we don't people think it's biden. You gotta come on and talk to us about this. He came down with With cove it. Which i've had and clay his hat and i'm sure a lot of you have had but the media is using this as an opportunity to push the whole fao shiite narrative into overdrive. And there's a lot of hysteria exaggeration. Dishonesty around this. And we wanna break down what's real. What's not what you should know. And what is just flatly untrue. But let's just get to. Here's here's very famous. Podcast think is probably the biggest podcast by listens in the united states. Right now which i suppose. The world Here he is saying yeah he got cove it turns out i got covert so we immediately through the kitchen sink out of all kinds of meds monoclonal. Antibodies ivermectin z. Pack prednisone zone. Everything And i also got an any drip and vitamin drip. And i did that three days in a row and so here. We are on wednesday. And i feel great. Clay everything that he has said. There you could say is entirely within the protocol of normal indefensible. Plenty people the point though that that. The media's freaking out about is specifically ivermectin which i took when i had cove it not because i thought it was some miracle cure but because a dock that i was working said look. It's very safe and may help klay. They're acting like ivermectin. Is some crazy horse st wermer that no one should ever take for any reason. It's reckless. that's what all of the headlines in fact are saying buck and look when i had co vid. I had a very mild case. I didn't take anything. I one day. I had nine degree fever. It was a sunday. I kicked up and watched even more. Nfl football than i. Ordinarily would the next day. I didn't have a fever anymore. I have all the home studios. So i was able to continue to work. I didn't miss a day of work. But i didn't need to have any treatment other than what i would normally do if i got a virus. Twenty four hour virus didn't feel great but didn't feel awful for one day but the headlines for joe rogan. They are treating this like he is a madman for what he is giving himself and also and this is what i think is the biggest story. Because we're also gonna talk about canto and we've had on the show. She wanted to get a cova test in aspen. We'll get to that in a moment. But the underlying story here and we didn't talk about him but it was a big story in conservative. Talk radio on certain level philvalentine who does a show in the nashville area. Dot co fitted ended up dying of it. The amount of people out there who are think of themselves as empathetic think of themselves as the as the elite of the american media who react with glee anytime somebody gets cove it. I mean there are a lot of people out there. That would be very happy. If joe rogan geico vid one and two they want him to get deathly ill and door even die because they don't think he's been sufficiently alarmist as it pertains to cova but we haven't even addressed yet. What his original sin was in the eyes of the media which is that. He said young hell low risk. People shouldn't be forced to get rain. Which is true. But also enrages the foul shiite fascist. That's so much. So i mean this is just one example of clay. Msnbc which we know lunatic stuff over there all the time hard to parody msnbc headline here podcast host. Joe rogan says he has covert nineteen and used ivermectin a drug typically used on livestock. That health experts have urged the public to avoid. Let's just dig into that for one. Second that's the head live or mechta and that was the word for word. Headline ivermectin is a drug that is on a par with with things like penicillin with anti-malarial drugs has saved millions of lives likely over the last fifty years. It is an anti parasitic medication. That the discoverer of got the nobel peace nobel prize not peace science prize for. That's how much of a monumental discovery. But they're telling people the experts say avoided. No that's actually. There's a lot of very good reasons to take ivermectin and it's an incredibly safe drug so if people wanted to just clay take a shot with it. The chance of having any ill effect is very very very small and maybe maybe because of in vitro testing it might be helpful against the viruses replication of some level. That's the theory. They're talking about some crazy horse. Drug that only maniacs take. Yeah and they're talking about it like he's got a syringe that went into a horse stall right and talk and it was like oh we were going to inject secretariat with this ivermectin instead. Joe rogan win grabbed it. He injected himself. This goes to the essence of the way that experts are treated. And i'm putting experts in quotation marks. Here because i don't know that there's ever been a time where you can read more headlines bach. And you and i'll text back. And forth and legitimately roll your. Is that anyone could have ever written a headline for an article like this. Because what it's about in tempting to do is make you and me and other people who i think are actually in the mainstream right. We have a lot more in common with most people in america right now as we are dealing with covert then the people out there who are going to ask for the rest of their lives. The people who are terrified that they're going to die and what's going to really make them upset is joe. Rogan is back to normal already. He's fine like almost everybody who gets covert and his otherwise healthy will be are. they're exceptions. Yes but the vast majority of healthy people are fine if they get kovin. But there's also a recklessness in the way they'll talk about joe rogan's protocol. They did the same thing when they were coming blonde disentis in florida. They act like monoclonal. Antibodies or something. Why are you pushing those on because it works really well because it actually helps people get better a lot faster and you will not even get the little fascist lab coat tyrants ouchi to go on tv and say otherwise but they always downpl the on a downplay. The monoclonal antibodies. because clay. you take that. What are you get natural immunity. And if you believe that your at low risk and you can get monoclonal. Antibodies maybe your risk parameters for whether you want to get the vaccine or not change and we know. This is the one-size-fits-all you must get the shot forever. By the way continuously or else everything else falls by the wayside and this is just a fundamental level of dishonesty. You're talking joe rogan's getting attacked like crazy. Which honestly i think is going to work in favor of people like you and me because joe rogan's got a big audience. We've got a big audience. Every time we get attacked unfairly our audience grows. It's great advertising right because people are like some people don't know we exist. Some people don't know. Joe rogan exists. There are people listening to us right now. That would have had no idea. Joe rogan existed. We played that clip and they think that's a reasonable response to an adult getting cova. I'm gonna go check out some of the other things that guy saying and ultimately this is how we win buck why we have this discussion a lot and there's different ideas of how you win but we live in a country where forty percent of people are going to believe that white supremacy is the biggest threat to american life in america today. They're just going to believe it you. It's hard to persuade those forty percent. Wrong forty percent are going to be smart in my opinion and agree with a lot of what we say. We gotta win the other twenty and this to is how we win the other twenty and start to kick ass. It's essential and i completely agree with you. And it's essential to continue to show everybody that the so-called consensus on kovic from the apparatus of the democrat corporate media the democrat party that cdc the federal bureaucracy. They say things that are wrong and do not own up to it. They mislead people constantly and never admitted these are areas. When you see people who are lying to you take note of it when you see people who do not admit mistakes that's important that's a data point all on its own. They've been completely unwilling to do that. And the the crazy and hysterical attacks on rogin show you how important narrative is over instead of saying joe rogan sick. Hey everybody notice how. He's taking monoclonal. Antibodies that's really effective and could probably save the lives of a lot of people hearing this if they get that early treatment which is also eireann. Disentis wants people in florida to know about it. Everybody knows about the vaccine. not everybody knows. Mon- monoclonal antibodies no clay. They pushed the narrative and the mindset. Which i know you wanna talk to us about your second manifests itself. Not only in do this or else but now it's turning into ju what we say or we won't treat you. Don't get medical assistance candy. Which is a fantastic teas. And that is what we are gonna talk about in the next segment because ultimately this is about taking away your freedom and trying to punish you for whatever you are doing that goes against the mainstream. That's probably the wrong word. But the elite left wing idea. And i gotta tell you sometimes in life. The simplest words make the biggest impact. Heather from georgia shared a short note with us telling us. Relief factor works for heather. It's the first pain relief product. She's comfortable taking daily without concern for her health. Long term header is one more person we've heard from you hear about my wife. How much of a difference it's making for her. She's fantastic shape but she trains people spin class pilates all of that oftentimes. She wants to recover. That's why she is taking relief. Factor buck your dad. You said played thirty six holes of golf the other day. He's gotta be in shape to go after par stephanie. 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You can bet five dollars win back one hundred and fifty dollars. That's thirty two one payoff. Fan duel dot com slash. Klay all you gotta do is pick a side. Have you decided on your side back. Georgia are clemson. Who are going whichever whichever one has more people that listen to this show. That's the root. For but i will tell you that every person that's heard this and a bunch of friends of mine just in the media who listened to our show and you know we like to be show. Prep for the rest of the media. So that's cool. I'm good with it. I'm like please listen to our show every day. I hope that. I see it reflected in all the broadcast that are happening at night But they say. I'm going to absolutely love it first of all. They're shocked they're like have you never been to a college football game. 'cause i went to college with sixteen hundred people. Yes even though i mean. I saw that but that didn't really count but they all say it's going to be amazing. So thank you for letting you know buck on. The bus is going to be a fun thing. It's gonna be a fun thing. This is not a fun thing so we were talking to start the show about this desire to make anyone who's not terrified of cova or looks at the data and says something other than never leave your home hide in the basement you are done for anytime. Those people have any kind of issue with cova said that blue checkmark brigade on twitter goes into overdrive. And so candice owens who we've had on the show daily wire. She's fantastic friend of mine. She and box. She put out a email that she got. She is a right now. Evidently in aspen colorado vacationing with her family and She asked if she could get a kovic tests because she was worried that she might have covert and she posted an email from a woman in Vail or is it valer aspen colorado and it says this This is from this. Woman named susanna lea appointment cancellation notice is the is the subject of this email. I've just learned of this testing request. And as the owner of this business am going to refuse this booking and deny service we cannot support anyone who has proactively worked to make this pandemic worse by spreading misinformation politicizing and discouraging all caps. The wearing of masks and actively dissuading people from receiving lifesaving. Vaccinations the only other woeckel. Testing option is the free kiosk. By city hall. They mail their test to texas and have inconsistent result times. Do not take appointments. So it's walking only midday weekdays in their back alley. My team and myself have worked overtime to exhaustion unpaid and underpaid this past year spending our own capital to ensure our community remains protected. It would be unfair to them. And to the sacrifices we have all made this year to serve you clay. This is the ultimate liberal sanctimony on covert on display. I'm wondering if dr fao she is going to make this testing site owner a senior adviser now because this is the mentality. People that don't agree need to be punished even at the expense of the hippocratic oath. You know there's some doctors. Now who are saying i will not treat you unless you are vaccinated or not allowed to come in it's disgusting. It's unethical. I am so fired up about this. I wanna keep talking about it when we come back in the next segment. We'll read you. What candace said And we can open up the phone lines to. Because i'm curious what the reaction out there would be among our listening audience. I bet people are fired up about this. It's the very antithesis of what medical support and services should be doing. We'll talk a bit more about that. When we come back. And i appreciate all of you and i want to let you know mike lindell and his team you know they take a lot of slings and arrows for being willing to stand up for exactly what they believe in. 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Candice owens Tv and podcast host author who has been denied testing services in a very fancy very fancy ski resort town out. Either vail or i think you have to wear a top hat and monocle while you ski and you have to refer to refer to the plebs. It's a very nice. I gotta tell you those places colorado. I'm not a cold weather guy. Buck colorado in the summer is amazing. Right like i some people are like. Oh i wanna go to colorado. I want to ski. Whatever that's you're right. My wife loves to ski. I understand some people like she's from michigan being outside in the cold. I'm a shorts flipflops sunny weather kind of guy but colorado in the summer is exquisite amazing trip out there because the weather's great mountains. You know you can hike. You can hang out and so it's a great place to be. I love colorado because specifically the whole state but also in and around the denver area we have a tremendous and very loyal and brilliant listeners. Ships inver is ask setting. We love our denver. Clan buck peeps. That's for sure but okay. We were just telling you a second ago about what's going on here in in the world of media narrative. They're they're all now trying to crush drank to crush Joe rogan with all these stories. And i told you they're calling it a horse. Ivermectin a horse de worming medicine. And i just want to give you some examples of this and it's hard to find a better if you're looking for a toady of the democrat corporate media complex. It's tough to do better than mr stelter over at cnn. Here he is. He seems to admitted he has been. Because it's hurting him in the pocket book he had to. Can't have you had to postpone or reschedule. One of his upcoming stage shows see you think the economic consequences might get people's attention and make people think may make his fans think differently about the threat of cova but he's trying to portray this as if he is feeling better now. He's doing better now because of this cocktail of drugs and medications that he has taken. Of course these are. Some of these are under emergency youth authorizations of there's been discouraged by the cdc and fda but when you have a horse de worming medication that's disturbed by the government that actually causes some people in this crazy environment wherein to actually want to try. That's the upside down where we're in with figures like jobs. High st lenny. Medication is really reports clay. The cocktail crazy cocktail. He's taking includes medicine like the monoclonal. Antibodies not really medicine treatment but that everyone knows is highly effective. And very good but cnn is willing to because people are going to hear what they just said and they're going to think. Oh wait. But joe rogan took the monoclonal. Antibodies and those are the vaccine was emergency use authorization. This is propaganda. This is the foul chief. Fascism on display. It's it's so true and this is why we are trying to constantly tell you guys. Hey let's talk about natural immunity. Which joe rogan is going to have now which we have talked a great deal about on this show which almost no one will discuss. Even though in israeli study has shown that the best protection you can have up to twenty seven times. Israeli study showed twenty seven times as valuable is natural immunity compared to vaccinated immunity. But the goal. Here balk is to try to make people like you and me. And joe rogan. They're trying to de-legitimize anything that we say. This is your right propaganda but it's also an attack. This happens to us every single day. Biggest radio show in the country. We're trying to be as honest with this audience can be because we entrust you guys. And i think that's the best thing anybody can do is be one hundred percent honest every day. That's where joe rogan does. They're trying to go after us because they are scared. They're scared buck that if they are something other than sheep that they are going to have to worry about data not supporting everything that they said and so they have to attack us. Because you can't attack the data. But it's not even just and i know where you're gonna tell us candice's rejoinder here in a second but i think that's important for us to understand that they wanna say brad style tare could say whatever he wants us all the i don't care and you know it looked media. We say things about them. They say things about us. The things we say are true. But that's a whole other thing but they're actually taking action now. Clay that harms people. They're abusing children in an anti-science fashioned by masking them up. They're rushing through there. Those two fda resignations yesterday remember that. There's ask for saying wait. Hold on we're gonna we're gonna say is fine for kids are we. Are we doing this because the politics because of the science. There's so much going on here that needs to get honest treatment but instead what they wanna do is co worse and threaten and not give tests people like candice and people can say. How do you win. I think we win. Buck by pointing out the absurdity of the other side and so here is candice owens's response so if you're just getting in your car our friend. Kansas owens is out in colorado. Wanted to get a vid test requested it. The owner of the clinic refused to give her a test and said because of politics she wouldn't allow her to get a test. All right here is candice. Owens's response this is great. A brace yourself folks. it's going to be good dear susannah. I wanted to let you know. This might objectively be the most hilarious email i've ever received in my life truly. I've never laughed harder. Nothing screams quote. This virus isn't political. Quite like googling the names of the people who book test with you and determining on a case by case basis whether or not you will let them comply with your community cove measures. Nothing screams quote. I wa- my local community. Quite like refusing the test people who are going to a local event and wished to ensure they are negative and therefore do not spread the virus that nobody stopped you from hitting send on such an emotionally unstable and hysterical. Email leads me to believe the people who work for you must love me and would therefore never deny me this entertainment. It's hard to pick just one. But i think the best part of your virtue. Signaling rant is the arrogant assumption that you're the only person who can administer a kovic test from here to texas. Ll cheers candice owens. That's how you win. Bought that's classic candice right to buy ridiculing the absurdity and mocking this is what good late night tv host used to do buck. They would take advantage and mock people in positions of power to try to hold them accountable and it is what now the left has become so anti humor and so unable to see because they're so focused on their strident virtue signaling. They don't realize how ridiculous they look to the rest of us. Now you have doctors in florida who did not walk off the job but did a ceremonial or a. You know a Making a a symbolic that's embolic walkout from from that but people have in private practice and people in other places across the country medical doctors who know the hippocratic oath and do no harm. And all those things you think. That's pretty important. They're saying can't come to my practice unless you're vaccinated. They're saying you know and you have people like don lemon on. Cnn is either. Is he the most absurd cnn host. It's tough to and we will get to the taliban white supremacy cnn headline later on folks. Because that was an amazing moment. Cnn's history but don lemon is out there saying that you know you shouldn't you shouldn't be allowed in the hospital if you stick with cova and you're not vaccinated to which first of all they make no exceptions for any of this. They don't actually talk about people who there are. Some people who truly medically everyone agrees. It's risky for them to get this vaccination but that's they won't talk about that. They don't care about religious exemptions and of course the vast majority of people listening this right now freedom exempt exemptions as in i don't want the government jabbing something into my arm or making me do it so i can live my life especially given all the considerations of what's the risk profile. How many shots do i have to do. You know they're just they're so dug into this clay and we're not gonna stop till we beat them. I agree with that. Doctors treat people buck who awful health decisions all the time. Obesity is the number one controllable aspect of cova that we have seen from all the data people who are wildly overweight get in hospitals people who are drug addicts get treated in hospitals people who shoot someone and our shot themselves. Felons who are committing crimes are treated in hospitals. The job of a doctor in a hospital is to treat people who who are sick regardless of the morality of how they got sick. The idea that you would be a doctor and say oh i would treat this person who has odeen but they used illegal drugs and so therefore i am morally opposed to drug use. So i'm not going to do it. No when people are sick or ill or injured as a doctor. Your obligation is to try to get them well regardless of how they got to you and the choices is why when there's a shootout with police and there's a suspect who's been head was bleeding out. The ems creates him like they would treat. That's a priest who got hit by a car. they're rushing treatment. They're doing everything that they can. They're trying to help them out We got a lot of people fired up. I could tell about this and some folks even have their own stories about the insanity and absurdity of the fao. She is that they are having to suffer through. We'll bring you up to speed on Also the latest in afghanistan and the next hour claes gonna take us through some of what's happening there Andy supreme court decision. It's not even really decision. it's just. They're not jumping into stop. The texas law libs are freaking out about that. We'll talk about it in just a moment. Oh the lines are open. Eight hundred two eight two two eighty two if you're with. At and t. Verizon t mobile. It's very straightforward. You're paying too much for your self service. You're basically wasting money because you're paying more money than you have to. I know they got big fancy stadiums and arenas and all that named after them. 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At cnn has actually argued that doctors and hospitals should be doing this which is a radical ridiculous outside of the mainstream idea. That is being popularized on cnn. Msnbc new york times washington post listened to don lemon here making that argument to his audience on cnn. If you're not to get vaccinated you don't wanna social distance. You don't want to wear a mask the maybe don't want to go to the hospital when you get sick. I know that sounds harsh. But you're taking up the space for people who are doing things the right way you and i both agree on this is going to be between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated moving forward in this country. And i just think if you don't wanna play by any of those rules and then all of a sudden you end up in the hospital. I feel bad that you but maybe you shouldn't go and take up the resources from someone else. that's it. Imagine if he says that book except he saying it too fat people if he said to fat people hey you decided to eat and get obese and the reason why you are sick now because the data reflects that of cova people. Seventy eight percent of them are significantly obese. Imagine if he had gone on. And said hey. I don't think fat people deserve to be able to go to the hospital because their obesity is causing a lot of their health related conditions and so doctors should refuse to treat fat. People people would be like august so there's also an issue of causality here as in. Oh you didn't social distance enough so it's your social distancing is bullcrap. They're asking there is not rang near sick. People being near sick people six feet three feet ten feet we have no idea and the actual indoor data suggests that if you're in poorly ventilated. It could be ten feet. It could be three feet. You're getting exposed to cove it so it's not even as you know. Yeah if you're if you're somebody that was you know drinking two bottles of scotch a day for thirty years you get psoriasis. Deliver that probably a function of that excessive drinking right. It's not even a function of whether you're doing the things that you say they don't know but they still wanna punish you for it. Oh you didn't mask. I'm sorry i didn't ask between bites. So now i'm sick. I will say. I remember what i got. Cova people asking me. Oh man like what you do. As if i robbed a bank. I was like i do the same thing. Full twelve months of cova didn't get sick which was live my life to the most normal extent possible. We got some folks that are fired up about this. Too and nita in california. Tell us what happened to you. Or maybe she maybe she man she's to hello. I'm here what's up hearing. Oh hey so. I went to my local bronco Prop care with. Bronchitis told him it was bronchitis have like five year history of bronchitis and it was during the you know wildfires and they sit me down. Stick me in a cova room. And then say well. We can't see you unless i have to take. The test comes back negative. They are very very angry. it came back negative. Give me a second one and then call me back later. Did not give me a breathing treatment. Nothing like that. They sent me prescriptions on. I go and then. I get the call back at home. You don't have covert and they're still freaking out about it and then they tried the will you need to take the vaccine because of your health that data and then i said well. I'm not going to on ground religious grounds and she was. Oh my gosh so mad. And i was just like so. What would have happened if i had decided to do exactly what they wanted. I don't know what if i decided not to hospitalize me against my will. I don't have a clue and so it was just the people get to go to the doctor by the way. Here's your calling it. I thought you know i've had horror. I had terrible flu like What maybe was Five six years ago. I got rocked by the flu. Clay went into an urgent care clinic to get a flu tests. Everything they didn't get iran like jump through windows of aid. Because i happen to have the flu. And it's amazing to aren't all these doctors vaccinated with their wonderful and ninety five. Mass that we're told are so good at blocking the virus. Or what's the big deal. It's it's the idea that you can moralize based on a virus. This has never happened before. I mean our kids get strep throat occasional. Nobody's ever like what did your kids do. I mean they were kids and they were around other kids who had strep throat. And that's how viruses spread. I had some friends who got mono in high school. But you know there might. There might have been some spin the bottle involved. I had mono tough. I had a college older. You get mono the worse it is. It's like chicken pox now. Yeah yeah to get my tonsils out is a big mess it. Oh there's a transcript out. Clay of a coal joe biden had with the flea the fled to not even fleeing president afghanistan. We should dive into that. Plus also how is it that we didn't even get out half of the actual interpreters in afghanistan. We're sourcing not even half that vic rama swamy who is going to be with us next. His book woke inc number two new york times bestseller. It is fantastic. Gonna talk about all that with him. The corporate insanity it's next you're listening to clay travis and buck sexton funding eib network Battling your bed every night. Why because you like tossing and turning on that old lumpy mattress. You've had since graduation. No get purple mattress. Only purple has the grid. It's amazingly supportive and kushner curves no matter how you sleep plus purples. One hundred nights rile guarantees a great night's sleep every night or your money back. Stop battling your bed. Give purple for a limited time. 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The Human Condition  Episode 36

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The Human Condition Episode 36

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot pastor, troy dot com before information. We're live is the human condition. Here with Derek Denim again. In. Rebecca talking about same type stuff. Let me. Let me go to the PODCAST DETROIT WANNA grab this share it on a couple of pages people sue people near. They got turned it down. Just. Real quick though while I'm while I'm doing this technical thing Your thoughts in just spill him on a on on. What what we've seen in you know the thing that prompted me to really jump on this is. The thing that happened right after with this this this guy who should murders people. So what are your thoughts? I mean Vince, unfortunately. Man. I hate to say, but we may have compensation few more times. Course of the year. Knock on wood. But I I'm tired. I'm tired. And you know I don't know if you've made if you're aware but the NBA there was supposed to be some games today I think they canceled the players decided to boycott. and. It's it's really just a sad situation Vince I mean. We're all on social media with debating with people and we're debate debating with people that. I know they have common sense. My know that if it was other way around that, they would have compassion. And remorse for what's going on to. Minorities. Such as myself in this country. And it just makes me sad it makes me angry quite quite honestly. I mean. It makes me angry too. You know and I'm not. It's just sad to. To sit back and watch you know I'll. I'll put a post out there that I think has all the common sense in the world because I. Really I check my facts you know and I do I know what happened beyond shadow of adopt outside that car? No, I don't. But what I do know is a man was shot in the back and rage. Seven times and So I'm talking to a guy last night on zoom call with them in these trained technical. Use of force is for big version of his life. been copies entire life corrections officer in. So I'm going to ask people I. I'm not GonNa Force an opinion obvious that see the video. I know better than to just dropping opinion then even though it looks fairly obvious was happening and I said, I said, what do you think of that because I know you saw that and I you teach that he said he's like. He sent me the use of force continuum we're. And he said you're going to see word reasonable used consistently throughout he's like there's not a reasonable person on the face of the planet that's going to be able to say that. That man with his back turned to him reaching in vehicle was was an imminent threat in that he couldn't have been handled with the amount of officers around him. He couldn't have been handled taken to the ground you know what I mean so Some of the comments that that I'm seeing. From people that are used to consider friends. Like when your? Mentality is that hateful? Regardless of whether you're blocked or not I can't be around you know. Be Your I mean I'm open to conversation that surging right. But if you're stuck in that mindset that some hate that I can't be of artem. Get something to that. Hey Nothing gets solved there. You know we talked about the I for you know. That's how it's. Got Me feeling like everything lately from the pedophilia people using that as political positioning, and then this which looks like start Zil war possible. Well, let's hope it doesn't get to the case for the to the point. Is. Again, I can only speak from my perspective. being a fifty-three-year-old black men in America Who obviously like I said to you before another pack podcast I, I've come from rape. So. And I don't need to expand upon that. I mean again I'm I'm a out Afro American. So that means I'm of mixed heritage so to speak and. Again it you know we don't WanNA is for I that's not what anybody wants. You know back in the day you had a brother named Malcolm X. who before he was enlightened on certain things. He was all about I. and. Again it's. It's it's not I have children. They go know go to different schools in suburbs. I was raised in a diverse community. And Would you say you know I and I'm to the point where it's like? I I don't WANNA keep debating. With people that I know that no better. You Know Rodney King was beaten by fifteen officers on video. In the the defense attorneys, they broke each frame down of video to try to show what really happened. We're putting too much thought into this is common sense. Common sense the brother that was just shot in the back. He could have been tackled. They, could grab doom. Did grab by his. Thing nothing. You'RE GONNA. Public. Anytime sorry anytime these things happen. What's the first thing that people the naysayers say they wanna dig into his past. What what what what what did he do or you know he did this in the past? Does that mean that he should be martyred? Or kicked someone attempted murder him. Then, justify that. No it. It doesn't justify at all. You know that people were bringing up he's been known to be aggressive with police. What was he? Right? Then you know what I mean like the police are trained to act in the moment like. Every situation, their first priority is to de-escalate. Right. So if if there was no imminent threat and look, I don't know what happened in the carbon, he didn't get to a glovebox or anything. He barely got inside that car and again. Look I don't know all the facts but I it it appeared pretty obvious in your. Shoot a man in the back point by range of close enough to do something else to. Hell shoot them in a leg. You know his back is turned tour you this kids are in the car. I don't need to know anything else my eyes tell me what I need to know. At the end of the day George Ward when he was murdered Outta need anybody of the show me other video. I think by. Anyone else. Talked about as to the point that. Is Ridiculous. It's really the I sent to. Some snoop on instagram. Video. Else. And it was a white gentleman. I mean taunting police. Just leave his ear attack dome. attack. From what problems to take the caps car? Look look down in in Wisconsin. The gentleman discount arrested the the the young just white white kid just got arrested for. Killing two protesters now we. Just got arrested. Not On. The. Spot. They decided he's walking Rowbotham with salt rifle and everyone's saying he just shot somebody. Walk out on his lot it's raised. He's allowed to walk away walk down the street with a a weapon salt rice assault rifle can you imagine if that was me bitch? A ball headed intimidating individual and. You're done. I'm done. And this is The problems that we have in the black community visits with this whole issue because we know people understand. We know they understand it. You know they try to act like or you know again when he was dead or when he was dead or if he would adjust complied. Are you kidding me. Are you kidding was gotten killed complying But I mean Leno. Polit, exactly. Reports Wallet. One gentleman that was killed his wife was in a back seat and she felt good on facebook live and he told the police hey, I have authorized. Weapon. Hey. Hey, he got killed. What else are we supposed to do? At one point and I'm asking people that are watching right now at what point do we say? Enough is, enough. You know at what point do we do that? That's the point it stealing like new roots. That's the question I wanNA. Ask. Abby. I know we you know what? I'm talking about. America's hall. What do you want us to do? What do they want us to do vents? That's the question that needs to be asked what we we begged. We've. cried. We've hollered. We shouted we've smiled we've laughed. What else do we need to do to say, Hey, treat me like the police dog. The Dog just got killed by the police dog in Detroit. There's people on there has so much empathy for that dog which I do. But treat me like you were treated or common and. That lives in a house or cat. Nasty problem in like I said I can talk about this milder black can talk about this but it's people like you vents believe it or not. That will make the difference because the more white Americans that speak up and speak out against these cowardly acts. That's what it's going to take. We can go we can go march till till my feet catch on fire. But. It's not GonNa make a difference economics. We gotta do things with Kim hit him in the pockets. And we've got to get more white folks like you my brother to speak out in a stop stop ignoring these things stop ignored because. At some point again, people are GonNA get tired man. And I don't want to get to a point where because you have a lot of committee challenged people already in this world with everything that's going. On you know what I mean. were bashing yards exactly exactly and you got snipers debate back in the day was the DC sniper who people are tired mad and it's only so much that people are going. To the point you got to tell you kids don't don't go outside. Don't don't go to the store is I mean it's really you know it's The five year old kid got shot by the guy that was on drugs that they tried to turn that into a political. but but that's speaks to the mental illness in society because that, Guy From what I understand was was having drug induced solutions Ryan. I don't know that they had anything to do with race at I think you've gone. There's a lot of people in society like that. Yeah. A The they're just not. They're gone bits and even the craziest person. Wants compassion. Think about that. You know what I mean even the person as. People may deem the the worthless or the or the homeless or what have you even those folks want compassion in inhale they got enough commonsense to see what's going on out here. Won't of course in miracles said, it says that everything is a cry for love doesn't matter what is like it's So. So if you're a jihadist, you're cutting off somebody's head. Cave there's some love. You're you'RE GONNA. Get from that right and the. Idea of the seventy, two virgins like people just want to feel connected in. Environment has alienated. In the solution of separateness led the solution of on different your different this allusion of black and limitation because they're not enough for me I have to I have to get I can't let this person in all that bullshit we become disconnected from our environment. These these ways to try to to try to feel good about ourselves. In society teach us what those ways are. That's where my traumatized in a different way than black people by racism of this generation they didn't agree to it but they're perpetuating by denying now a there's no doubt about it. Thing Nikki. Haley. Said, what did she say at the Republican? National Convention. Some about racism in America doesn't exist. Is that what she said, I don't want to misquote her. But this is Dick euless. It's crazy it really. Got Our political leaders You know you look at the Republican convention there propping up black folks. To say these things and you know there's another lady out there that she's going to be speaking she's A. She's. She's the White Lady. She has I guess, I. Don't know she adopted a black child or. You know that's our natural or not but she was making the contrast between her black or brown son in her white son in how it's the legitimate reason for. Police officers to treat the Brown kid or have be more leery of him than than her why child She was just. Justifying it. Now, this is this. She's the parent. Think about what I just said they let her talk says she's GonNa talk at the Convention. Yes I. have to check that out. Just think about that. If you got someone parent. White parents. Said about this child that they either adopted or hat I mean what? How can we win man non she what she has to talk with the One? You do what you want the other. Like? It's my. Mind blown it's it's beyond mind blowing and again I don't know the answers. And I'm like I said I'm really tired of crap to try to even address it there because at some point and it's not let's let's call it what it is. It's not just white folks doing certain things This even black folks you got people like candice tonight candidates. Her. Say Her name but they there. It. Is just mind blowing man it is mind blowing. So that's glad you got black cops the feel you know I. Got Francis Black Cops and they feel like they're being attacked and were. Questioning to them I say, Hey, if you're one of the good ones, we're not talking about you. Why are you taking his personal? One that that goes back to the. To The I. Don't. WanNa. Let me. Alexis wants to chime in case please. Now I'm GonNa get to this point that you were just talking about great Dave I'm GonNa, send you Alexis or do still have lexus email. We talking about So this was going to be on A. White privilege because I have wife friends that don't believe that it it exists right? It's bits I hate to do the different with you. They believe it but they ignored. And I've said that before it you you gotta be. I gotTA believe a lot of people that follow you you grew up with. They're educated folks They're professional folks data get where they're at. By being dummies or Bolivia's look. Well. Here's the thing with Donald Trump and this is just monitor pink. Donald trump before he ran for president. Donald Trump. Was a Democrat and now saying that makes them better than anyone else. But we do know that most Democrats in Republicans have different ideals. Let's call it what it is. And I think I think. In this is just my honest belief I think once he got elected. Hell they were surprised. That he said, you know what I am in here a minute to win it. Now I've got appeal to my base. He's got appeal to his base and I'm not saying he doesn't believe in things that he puts out there. But I think with the people around him since can. he knows again, he knows who loses basis he knows what they wanna hear and what they're interested, and that's why you see these brown kids locked up in cages. You know he knows what they want to hear. So You know. Hey I'm into the stock market. But guess what I'm not. So money hungry where I wanNA make money at the expense of other people it's more to it than just about making money or or the stock market market rise in where you know hey, everybody it's not about that to me it's about compassion. Your fellow man. Round Black, white, whatever they are. Let's go ahead I'm sorry us how you doing. I'm well well. Form. Well Is. It's IT'S A. It's A. It's time. I don't even know how to describe it. You know like some of the shit that's being spewed online and used his logic is got me in a different frame of of you know. Is just it's not the only reason you will have different frank this because you want to see the best in people that quick reminder offenses part of the process. Data does the mayor body of the can set them for what they are. I'm. Career, I am very very raw audience insure probably we can be near. This is the right place to be because It's Places like this and I put a nearby out there for people to send in inbox message and I didn't expect too many. To WanNA on right like. If you're not if you're not ingrained with compassion. I would feel afraid to get on this zoom gall in that in public because I I'd rather sit behind a keyboard and take my shit. They're scared just here. You're not gonNA last long and we're GONNA attack anybody but you're not gonna be able to fire back with anything that makes any sense but also why would way? What is the benefit. Is because there probably is some benefit or lease the my mind I liked to believe there's some beneficial. But if I just go on in my raging in silence or whatever it is in be a part of the dominant culture happenings go in my favor what is the point unless I just want to be a better person Bob Nolan he can be in a better person why would I even risk myself? Did he publicly attacked right you that makes sense. There is no benefit. Those those people are they're they're keyboard gangsters. Wells. You know in in it's just like the lady that I said that has the the black child. You know she's a white lady. You know she deleted that though that video that she said those things off. Know. Most people once they get in a public. Forum. They're going to unless you're donald trump or someone and guess what at the end of the day I respect someone who has the? The nerve of the courage to say what they're gonNA say Sara. Lee All be proud you. Know warm dealing with. Ariza ed but you know. Also don't expect that from the type of person that has this problem i. Best, the Parker has made the most engraved. I'm not surprised at the way. So I do the seventeen year old with the AARP. Team. A hard of is. Not, a murderer, you know what I'm saying like these dishes include business so predictable. Yachts the enraging parts home and slept in care he's not a terrorist. All right. Like. I. The reason I'm so mad I'm so not surprise. All like I can predict the next steps even your face will friends when I like I'm. Not Because, you've ms but already the Frederick on April. Straw word in English now moment I mean. Because there's some dumb shit. Not Walton because I'm out surprise. Is it as one guy comes on, he says. He says start he's he's like Oh you're gonNA GONNA defend a A sex offender starts going into. Sex offender in non. There's just assist place for that. So whatever justice needed to be served it's or is going to be served not your place Ryan does well, i. think he got what he deserved might that's not your place to say that I'm like if you feel so strongly about about sex offenders you out there and do it yourself dude you're dams off in in prison right? He's been out of respect them right. But is this really an excuse for that sentiment that you really got buried? Right I mean. The, there's a fine line. It's becoming less and less fine is becoming more and more obvious what people protecting with that bullshit because you're not that DOPP. Lead the things you're saying, you're happy that dom. I put someone your page. When when the person made that comment about being a sex offender I said, well, Donald trump publicly said publicly always being recorded, but he grabs women hey they. They. Love it. Leslie Bowling's. Boys will be boys. Hey. Locker. Look that loves bringing a complexity to the issue right because as a woman as a person, a black woman who fifty with all the predatory. get is a part of media says it is a sex offender. I'm not mad that something bad happened to him. However, this isn't about him. He's a lie I got A. Six over six foot tall fifteen year old nephew at another one coming right behind them in a six foot tall big black male brother right like I don't. Like is. Rumor. Being having a human experience right now for like fuck that right we're Alexis here's a, here's the piece. In and this is you know in people can take this. You know how they wanNA take it but. Everybody has rights I mean. Everybody has rights. So you know someone I mean even as the gentleman you know Sexton I, mean whatever I mean he he's wrong held and he's GonNa pray his players pay his price inhale for that. But at the end of the day is due process music. So I, don't think I've possible thus what I mean by this. Know adult ask them what they'd be because not there yet so. What he'd be I wanted to be here to love on you. That's what. Are you go. Definitely, not the COPS like you're held to a higher standard so The cops exactly what was on view of definitely. There's there's matters through to that but other. You know what? Bench appear I actually made a valid point when he was trying to refute systemic racism he was actually. He was actually supporting. It was saying he said, well, you know you are right. You starting to Joe Rogan he said you are the rules. The rules have changed but nothing has been done to remedy a cats right? So on the surface, it looks like cheating all these rules in mears's program, your news program years, and we the change the name of the fucking Redskins and all that you know all the stupid shit but really what's been done to to repair his anybody there still so many people out there that aren't acknowledging that trump that that are just trying to brush it under the Broadens Yeah You're not gonNA move on China ago just go away it not that it doesn't work like that. It stays for generations and generations and generations until somebody acknowledges it not it's not just a family. Now, we're dealing with a collective consciousness of human beings three, hundred, million of us, and the kids had problems with knowledge in it. You tell this This is like. That's crazy that happened in. There's denial in it. You know what I mean. It's Real I. Whoa. That's stupid. You know kind of thing and they move on but it's the adults that had the ability to change things that keep denying ship. That's where it starts. Racism, you're not born racist. That's better than you when you at birth when you're not at birth but as you grow up and your talk, your taught to be racist just doesn't happen. In if you have, you talked to any young kids in middle school or younger or and you talk about these issues. A lot of them think there's like, Hey, you know. There's GonNa come where this is going to change in there. So this tick. And I think being older. And being more privy to thing I'm not saying they're not Yien. Privy to certain things that they haven't been privy to yet. It. Just kind of shake your hair you you hope they're right but. I don't know with these. These keep happening to just makes you wonder will this will things change? What will it So I feel like what it takes people collectively gambling contact with their own cultural heritage. As separating from this whole black and white. That's just what I feel like. So, even it out conversation with a friend earlier in like it being so black and white. There are many other people connor in between that are conscious existing in not being black in not being white. Awning Safety in bet right leg this you noticed I did live at the idea of colony racism instead of wide-body preference. Like the system is designed to prefer to have a preference for white people. In a less me teach that is a white gravel. Black people won't leave suffer in everybody's GonNa WanNa not have. To live right. If we're being two people are having to choose between their mental health. Security of their children and the courage of their own convictions base most humans don't have that right like. Or Safety Whiteness gives you safety. Safety from anything did not been back. Gus The safety because it's acknowledged somewhere people's might is that being black is dangerous. Of. Well what will agree which he said, but on the same token? Bit. They're going to be more upset about the NBA being. The in the Games. You know they'll go to the games. They, all listen to You know music I entertainment. Love. Michael Jackson. No prints brought here for consumption of course. No will. You know what? I mean leather NFL. Football were how dare we need? Me Do that we here's here's a look making this point earlier. About the white privilege thing and what you just said Alex's the white body thing you'll have to be white to be you know what I mean like like there's there's plenty of black people with white privilege. Would what's her name? We were just talking about Candice Candice Owens. Well Biscuit. Energetic. She has hasn't to a point. To point because he every now and then a black person has to be reminded. Every now and then. Oj Simpson, you gotta get reminded and I hate to I hate to say like that. But. It just is what it is and candice you know she didn't get invited to the inner city convention. You know the Republican convention and people have been you know joking about that but. As soon as you think that your Accept it every now and then it takes you to get reminded and when I say that I mean as a whole I, don't mean just I mean as a whole. Wide Surveys of negotions tokens. Exactly. The allusion of white privilege but agrees those white people lose That I bet is a he has internalized oppression. has found a safety in agreeing with the oppressor. Rice. Stereotypical. So in fight or flight, there's fight flight freeze collapse she's frozen. Rose Mode, she just like a deer in the headlights. An and I know Alexis being a light skinned person like myself. You Yours sometimes more accepted than say, one a docker counterparts in s evening to black. Human. So you know it's it's sad because. The white body preference that's caller isn't. The problem is that the system is designed for. People with white bodies who have preferential treatment or is not as might so. You. Trade trading your culture will meaning with. German. Irish. Italian that practice for Whiteness, you'll give safety from. Friendship. Comedy. Whatever else I can't go right now but you just get to not be black in BEMIS. needs to be in a suburb beneath somebody else's chain. Act White in. That's the thing because I was talking to some of my my friends from from from the hood in a they never they never. They never used that privilege they. You know they dress in a way to where they still get hemmed up by police. He's like I never experienced. When I cross eight Mile I. talked I was from Detroit I got made fun of or add fighting all the time on my junior year if I'm sick of fighting. Start. Acting White. On White. People I think you know what I mean like I didn't relate to them. I was used to be in poor in a Ni- got made fun for the Shit that I wore their shifted by people make fun of other weather people for that I didn't get made fun of when I lived in Detroit like we didn't think like that. So I had a problem I had to adjust to that. Around. My junior year whereas on start acting white start talking real by I'm not gonNA get any tattoos because I like committing crimes. started. So I created a character in in a in I used my white privilege. I didn't really know what that was. This is all hindsight looking back. I didn't know what I was doing I was trying to make my life easier but I had to I had to reach out to Graham that white privilege because otherwise I was treated now the the the thing that we would be called me. About really the white religion is not long is so you got to use that you saw pans out of poverty. Hardy. White be white privilege doesn't keep you from having poverty. It makes it easier to have a pass out I think earnings white privilege to get out of Auburn. North. Right. Is Not like your friends that have used they wait. They just happen to stay poverty. against. Police last week was big. I. Mean. Everybody. So they're just being sacrifice. I don't have a better with best e. Is still a thank to Mike. Arsenal intersection intersectional. Right layers. Were RELIG- for being this gender, female. Right. Like there privileged privileged depends on the context will feel. Society If you have waste. You'll life is not not guaranteed to be easy. It doesn't save you from things it just leave. Being a different race is not something else you have to deal where? You can't. You can't turn that off. A set say You said. About. You you wanted to at some point you had to just say you know what I'm act white. Yeah. I mean, because at the end of the day, what does that mean? Does that mean clothes you wear because? People would you say well, here's the thing. Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO and owner of facebook book one of the richest men in the in the world. What does he know if wearing all the time? A hoodie. The same thing by Martin War. When he got shot for looking like a hood. So, what I'm saying is you could wear the same clothes. You can wear could wear some timberland boots untie was some jeans are your Hoodie you can do same thing. You'll have like a construction worker exactly not the. You can you can ride listen to? Your car. I could do the same thing. Look look differently than me. I mean I'm just being I'm this being one you get. You could be smoking we walk into a Meyer and I do the same thing. Is is a double standard. Huge Standard. When those kids got pulled out of the CAR IN A. Ain't happening to me. And I know that like. Fuck you. You don't point your get the Fuck Outta here gone. Mantra supervisor. I'm not getting out of my car you're scaring my kids. Off. And I would live. There would be no fear of death. It would be I would be so appalled that you would think to do that too. But then you know and that's what I used for one of my friends that. Guy Actually has a friend and. You think white privilege means were given something. It doesn't. It just means. You don't have to tolerate that shit but that doesn't have to be a part of your life now you don't have to ever. You'll never have to get pulled out of a car for suspicion of driving a stolen car and yet you're fucking kids land on the ground faced out crying traumatized for the rest of their life on a mistake in somebody say that's just the cops who state. Privilege. That is. Or people will year like so people be like all big if the cloud let him away but they just walked up with a hand on the trigger like having a gun. Is a dramatic fucking bit. On The face my death because. You feel safer. I was a lifelong criminal like like I said, I used I used my whiteness to get back to the drake that I should be. I the things I walked away from I. Know What White Privilege is I know what it is. Every time that I've been pulled over in my entire life except for the one time where they were actually looking for me and it was undercovers, box me and then they. Hit. Their car I smash the car trying to get away from him, and I still got pull out of the car and put on my knees a little off the fucking door on my head but that was it. Just snatched the cops talk but never once has a cop come up to me at any point at night knowing that we were probably doing some dirt route doing whatever we're doing. Car loaded up with a bunch of lawman fuckers in. Never Watch. A gun drawn on me in a traffic stop it's never happened in done. Some dumb shit I would nine. either. But that also doesn't mean that I don't have my camera mole right there brought. US Air will and when I get pulled over which I have pulled over in Corey. I'm compliant but I'm also terrified and that's the thing I expected to handle my fear in the way this is I need to defer to authority and authority problems right I. Don't fucking like this don't do. It yet if I WANNA live guess who gets the tell me what to do. Whether I'm right or wrong and I used thing, it's not just murder worried about out worried about the race. He people like teach defy women like me lesson. All the survey cavity search to seventeen year old. Child on the side of the fucking role. You got to choose between a cavity search or dying. But. Here's the thing we're saying all of this if people will still had a chance to precarious as will you gotta do is comply Audet gotta do. It yet that's not a thing that's not something that comes up. So these are people that are wanting to become capacity they're wanting to defend their opinions. They are in the AFL today and I might not feel this way off. To evolve icon, down, it's Fogle. Alexis is there's a reason why? There's a term called and I said this. Before duct DWP, there's no, there's no no term call WWF driving while white. is driving while black. So the fact that that even exists should tell someone sample and that's all that's on a minimum level. Identified it's Neri's why we will have to think about this at all. All. Right. Not. The terms that exists the fact that this exists needs not existed they don't give a listing. Like. This is. Just. So frustrated with the big care about some other than themselves the same trauma get storage you'll DNA solace the preference for Comfort Riley why you can get to be so what the fuck making so special. 'cause. You're an American in Europe individual and you never had the thing is, is Dr dating you from the the way that you were raised the society whether you ever encounter black person or not? The society has it set up that there's a fear to be built in with the way that the media before out though wait like if you choose engage in black center or not in Black Center Promo for programs, even with a token person. Right there. Is Societal programming. So it takes people willing to deprogrammed society. Feel hopeless. Was Do I live in all? My life will raise this. Why am I trying to fight this fight? That's the way I feel that would eight know how to find my happy place no know why because I had I had to learn I'm sitting sketching right now. You don't say that's something I like to do. I'll think that's okay. I don't think people should have lived that way. I don't either but soon in what is different things? Thanks you know. Events. I would love for you to get someone on the show with the different view I would love to see some you. Know what I mean I would really love to see some of those folks that debate with on your page. Will come on and know that they'll have the courage there watching you're watching. Then talking to them right now. In challenging them to come on but they don't have the courage. They don't have because again as common sense. Yeah. When you're talking amongst yourselves you know and that's the beauty of social media now. It can be that's the beauty of it. Because now, the white sheets, you can't hide under the white sheets. Because you have these conversations among yourselves in the you know, hey, guess what they forgot. There was a friend of business. Or Hugh Gall one in our personal France or stand saying bridges they forgot that we're all connected. That's the beauty of the social media thing. I can peek in and see these conversations is the best thing that ever happened for us, and that's that's why A. Talking to trick. About the protests new. Buckles. Street, he's like they're mostly from the suburbs anyway. and. I was telling him about a we got going on with with our group men with a Alexis. You should you get in on this dirt but from. I was telling them about that. He's like he's like He's like really like they're not cowboys down in the city. We got a relationship down near we kind of understand each other. What really needs to happen is you need to take it back to the suburbs might well, we are. We you know we're dealing things more. Guys actually the county executive right now, and he's of the same sentiment audit unity thinking not I mean so. That's what I'm talking about now that that's how change happens. He's like when we cross eight mile, it's different. It's different show. You know what I mean I. Might I get that but you know it was us to hear that perspective to I'm getting him on because he's got a real raw for special. Yeah. Detroit Like protests does some. Different, I'm the kind of person can protests but I do feel like protests does something because aware conscious awareness is not as awareness and. About what we do with those thought meter who are making but that's the time to give give people's attention best when you might have hope insert some capacity or expose the name. Matrix. Down there at first and it is over over time when it's peaceful, right is peaceful and any just didn't understand what seventy five percent of the people from the suburbs or laying in traffic, and it really wasn't doing anything. So they're they're like this ain't doing nothing. Let's. Change policies. You know what? I mean. We weren't the city where we're at and that's GONNA be proud like. When it's all policies, look bake aid without give him. I I was WANNA to take off heat right that noise dad. Just happen to be a different kind of city word. The these things were already to be worked out in the city right now. Suburb tross eight mile that the by it's still exists not in not a McColl township black couple lives in the neighborhood and they have a sign up says black lives matter and they're all. And the. I guess where they live the association says, Hey, you gotta put that down but guess what? There's other sides. There's other sides. You know. I like I said. I. Know Somebody. Personally. he's in the group with us this that in her neighborhood someone had signed in, they were told to take down the. Day abyss alike their signs that they all everything else but the little. Is Suitable to save black lives matter break about that. Alexis. Make about that. You know people want to misconstrue it and talk about where who founded black lives matter or what hell I don't care if who founded the slogan the slogan. It means the same thing at the end of the day. Black lives matter and see what happens with White folks you know. Try to tear down or will well, who well, who started black lives matter who funded it? Where's the money going? I. Don't know but guess what I black lives matter, but you know what my mobile is. Only me and changing these policies bucket. All is matter. Let's go make sure they all matter. You're definitely gives you take you to get on board retaining the policy. So the black lives could be a part of all. That's though I don't need this. But let's. Yeah, what's he shouldn't have you shouldn't have to dumb yourself down or or. Or. You know distort or or the message. So to speak because we all know all lives matter but we also know why people say or they can't say black lives matter. You don't mean it's it's it's not about your life not mattering or vis life not matter nor order or a Hispanic persons not live not matter is because we are the ones getting killed I don't think any any person who has a problem with the words black lives matter would have a problem with somebody say a native of native American lives matter you know what I mean they're going to have that problem. I I don't think I see a problem with that. I don't know maybe delusional probably matter. You know we talked about. But I. noticed. Late of Americans. I know the history. History would use even being favored. I just don't think there'd be a problem I. Don't think he will hear. American life. There I. Think. I I gotTA agree with a little bit on that because I'm part native American. So, but the point being is. At the end of the day everybody knows we talk about black lives matter and we just like with the kneeling peace they WanNa talk about it's about the flag this and that knows bringing attention to police killing us. There unfortunately, not kill a lot of Indian posts. All, they just talk reservation without enough resources. You're. A razor native Americans is skyrocketing. Out. That are surrounding a reservations then why people don't like them. I disagree native Americans just the they get the worst erasure, right? Like it was near genocide in. All he okay. With them having no people those reservations don't have enough resource be is always backs out on a treaty doesn't do what they say Pussy White folks on look at them as a threat Alexis because they feel like they have them under. Control now right? He didn't regard why why. The MAR to. The march backyard whatever on a on A. When you call the pipeline, the white people was not okay when. was talking about. All sending the troops we meet our oil. Unbelievable. He's my people. I have loving relationships arriving when I know it's not all of them but. I'm talking about. Don't give a fuck about nobody but themselves, you don't even care enough about other people to actively late them. He's not even a proper disrespect unless they feel threatened for their comfort unbelievable right like that, and that is even more able. I rather you have. You need to see me in order to really properly inspect me, but you don't need to see me. Is like I don't exist. Alexis how can you argue how can you would when Obama was president? This guy is never his family have one. negative I mean just just being black. They just hated it'll be a black. People tell me I used to work a job with some guys in a we were cool. You all these I thought we were cool in an election was coming up With. Trump. And I said, well, you know we got to talking about it and the guy was like, well, I'm voting for trump and I'm like what he's like yeah man he said, Obama man he's G he's raising my taxes with free healthcare. I said Man, do you realize I said where you live up in the hills? You Guys GonNa meet that healthcare to. Emphasise light. What are people thinking I don't get it. Get it. You don't want to be able to get it either. I'm assuming. But If you care about people like you said, you thought you always cool. That means that you don't have them saying kind of problems that they have. So. Why would you want to understand what their faith? Other than to try to disassemble it. I I want to understand I can't ally about but I do. I think we saying in where we're we're being rhetorical where we all we understand it unfortunately is just. Just people that just they're like you said, they are afraid that someone's GonNa take something from them even though they took it from other folks as Tag Indians. So they're afraid that this country they took from someone else we're on the rise and we're going to take away something from them. What we built this country S. slaves. Labor Eagle. But. The part that I have the issue is that I understand that people who are alive today did not enslave people. But, when you look at the disproportionate effects of of history on certain sects of society. I think the reason they go straight to defensive is because they know somewhere inside they not willing to do what it takes to make a change. If I'm out if I don't have the chance to make the and I don't even know if there's a quick thought like you know how to talk speak. Slowly figure out. If you now willing to do the work than I'm going to defend I mean that's just human nature. Will defend opposition if I believe I'm right in sometimes it's easier to just go to on right rather than a check to see. I hate the people like that. You know if someone brings a good argument. So there you know they they bring something to table that makes me rethink sub. Hey, guess what I want to say you know what you're right but you can't argue a debate with someone even changed someone's mind is not open minded not. Trying to be they're not it's not about reasoning anymore. Out that because we're not looked at AS PEOPLE I. I. I'm a white Dude I looked white and I talked quite. I honored Soma perhaps in a way not. So I like I can't get a good argument out of people and I'm trying I'm like just give me something and then I got a guy who's just like there's so much nonsense. It's just block block block block. I know when people shutdown right? There's nothing I can get sort of your fans really it's gotTa stop. Your laid out there. There's nothing like we can't talk about love or compassion keep going back the dumps it doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. You're caught in this world of semantics in all it is is a defense mechanism what because you might get your ego her like that. That's your ego is so fucking fragile that that you've got a protected, but the truth is. This when I went into survival mode is somebody with PTSD, I was fighting for survival men somebody cut me off. pull out. What, kind of sickness with that, you know what I mean in the trauma it jostle needs where I went into evaluate myself. So I could be a better father, right like took that. I can't take that as a whole like this is what's happening because it's taken. I I would love this is love to happen for the folks out there they're. White. Folks that don't agree with what I'm saying. I would love for one time just one time. that. Something happens on knock on wood to someone that looks like me just one time they they find compassion with. One time. When candice talks about these certain situations. Is Always our fault, you now want give me this one time. Say You know? Dammit, the Black Guy did everything he's supposed to do. He's still got killed. You'd be one time. One. Time. With. The Landau Seals. De. Como. By that, they don't have anything stay out it. was wrong but that doesn't make them care chains it. There I want. To. It. Now you think if enough people who care changing get together elected people who are like a ben overtime. What is popular will prevail because the ego is being driven. So like if it becomes unpopular, be able, then people won't be hateful. Over time, you can hope that maybe your children. Well, I'll tell you this. You'll save when I leave my house. I said this before. I think what's going to happen eventually in? Fact. The United States is going to start to look like more like people that are of mixed race. It's GONNA is happening. As so at some point I mean, you're talking about, they feel like they're being some taken. Now you wait about another twenty years because people are going to look more and more of mixed race this call it what it is. and. When what are they going to do? That is still In South Africa. Holler is will be paying both like this business, a wool that needs to be addressed a healed and. There's difference is like everybody's not going to be bathed. Everybody will be varying shades they'll be less and less White Zachary naked automatically myth automatically needed the system won't be further automobiles lying. We're getting. We're getting the IT's seven o'clock. So Got Anything you want to close with I'm. In a we go on forever about this we'll go onto more. We'll continue doing I'm continue. My grown up in this world. This what else as real quick is that I appreciate you man. Brother from another mother. And I appreciate and we need more people like you man to help with this plight because to your to your point, I don't know. What's going to happen? Do I keep going? So that's why I want to say I appreciate you know what among so whatever happens outside of at least I know that my kids know you know what I mean so I'm with. Best what I WANNA. Close. Raise anti were if you're an anti raises or if you don't believe in preference to white bodies, racial kids to be woke in, that's the whole. Would if you? Only buy their fight to. But if we more they'll be ready. Be Ready in they'll be more. Good talking to you guys in we have to talk under these circumstances but keep going. Live. About. Have a good night. All right take care.

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Prisoners of the Right

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26:26 min | Last month

Prisoners of the Right

"Much like who was. Prince explores the life of prince and his influences remmy. Martin joins with international music star. Usher in team up for excellence. The film exploring the history of music culture. Koniak see the film at team up for excellence. Dot com remmy. Martin koniak forty percent alcohol by volume imported by remy-cointreau usa. New york new york please drink responsibly. Good morning and welcome to okay. F daily with meet your girl. Danielle moody recording live from our podge stream studios here in times square. You know folks every week right at the end of the week. It is friday and this is going to be a mix of fuck it friday and feel good friday but there isn't really a to feel good about if you've been paying attention you have celebrities that are spouting some of the most ridiculous and false. Medical information as our country is spiking from kobe. Nineteen looking at you nicki. Minaj wished that you would spend some time. Maybe a little bit of time in between trying to keep your husband out of jail and maybe potentially trying to do your quote unquote research on cove in nineteen vaccines instead of spreading bullshit to twenty two million people right. Somebody told me essentially that i needed to provide quote unquote grace for black women. That mess up. I provide grace for a lot of people but what. I don't provide grace for for people that decide to double down on their foolishness and potentially risk right. Having twenty two million people decide that they're not going to get vaccinated because nikki manashe and the barbies told them not to write based on some false premise. That three countries had to come out and smackdown. I'm outdone by the fucking stupidity at this point and people quote unquote doing your own research. Meanwhile i would love to see what your grades look like in science. You know when you were in high school and probably skip those classes. What kind of fucking research are these people actually really doing. Are you googling. Are you going to the cdc or you going to the who or you going to nikki. Menages page or you know. Buster rhymes is page or ice cubes. Page to figure out what kind of fuck ary they decided to spread today understand folks that you now you people you nikki massages and busta. Rhymes and ice cubes have become a tool of the right. So when the likes of tucker. Carlson and candice owens are singing your praises and re tweeting. You know that you are on the wrong fucking side of history and on the wrong fucking side of literally everything when they decide to lift you up you should fucking run and suspend your own goddamn accounts. So that's that on that here. We are once again folks with the potential right to do something right around voting rights to do something that is going to change america's slip re slippery sliding slope into fascism. Right right now. I just saw pitchers on msnbc of our capitol building surrounded by essentially you know seven foot high fences barbed wire all of these things. And i wonder is this what democracy looks like. Is this what it looks like to live free. When our capitol building is behind bars like is this so recognize that we have become prisoners of the right and i don't think that folks are really wrapping. Their is around. What has happened whether or not you're living in a red state but you actually have blue sensibilities meaning that you believe in vaccines. You believe in science. You believe in facts and now you're being held hostage whether it be in your home or in your school by governor who is choosing to not follow any science do not follow any rules and to essentially become the executioner for the citizens of their state. And so as i look around right now at our country in shambles every which way that you look and pick an issue. It's fucked right now. I think about joe mansion. And i think about the fact that this attention whore is the one who now we are. Essentially pandering to our entire democracy and the health of it is on the shoulders of a man from west. Virginia who is the king of coal who has no black or brown constituents and could give a fuck so long as he remains the king of his small fiefdom. I am so sick to death of hearing his fucking name and kirsten cinemas name and recognizing that we have three branches of government. If somebody had said to me on twitter. And i said damn you know this is really the god damn truth. They said the three branches of government is say sit. Right now is biden mcconnell's courts and joe mansion so essentially three white men are controlling every direction that this country takes the only direction that it's moving in right now is backwards and joe. Manchin has signaled that he wants to move on. Voting rights. Bill that he's decided to endorse. Guess what takes out. Every single ethics rule that was put into the other pieces of voting rights legislation to make sure that trump like figure cannot emerge right and cannot take over this country so he's removed those things. He's removed a lot of things that have to do with ethics in our friend who joins the show often eilly. Missile wrote this in the atlantic. And i tell you friends if you have not read the piece you should. It is both depressing but also necessary. And he said this. And i gotta tell you you know whenever ellie rights. I am both extremely excited and also very depressed. He says this at the end of his piece entitled joe manchin giveth on voting rights. And joe manchin take it the way he says. This america isn't a democracy right now. It's a hostage scenario. Mansion is just toying with the democrats who insist on negotiating with him and that is the absolute truth. Here folks you see joe. Manchin is having the time of his fucking life he is on everybody's lips and he is at the center of every conversation. I've never seen an attention whore like this other than maybe a nikki manashe. But i've never seen anything like this in a politician. Usually they really want to go to the table. At least maybe in my you know very delightful. Lovely memories from back in the day. When i worked on capitol hill and i believed in democracy and i believed in the people. Maybe it's that memory that is being conjured and that often times proving not to have been the truth right. You know folks when you think about this right. And i just again. We don't need to present hypotheticals on this issue. We need only to look at the last four years under donald trump and the fucking gripped that his entire family put together in order to squeeze much money away from the american people away from agencies away from social safety nets and into his fucking pocket. So how is it that joe manchin who on his own is a fucking sellout because he has more money from coal than anywhere else right as well as the fucking cope brothers decides that after witnessing donald trump and all of his family's fucking gripped over the last four years that we don't need to put in writing the things that we expect from our fucking president and vice president. How is that right. Because here's the thing that you are essentially asking burglars to watch the fucking beck. That's what we are doing right now with our politicians right. We can't get shit done with regard to big pharma and how they fry their prescriptions. Right that they create for the american public you know why because three of the biggest right dem's quote unquote middle of the roaders. Take close to two million dollars from big fucking pharma. All of this is a god. Damn sham and i wonder how we make it through each and every week without going out of our front doors and just screaming that primal scream and waiting for something to fucking change in happen because what i am starting to recognize is that it does not matter who the fuck we vote for because at some way form shape and down the road they will turn into a grip. They're just like everybody fucking house right. You know i remember. There is an episode of sex in the city that i love so much. It was very funny. Where carrie bradshaw says that squirrels or essentially racks just in better costumes. That's how the fuck. I feel about the democrats right now. Essentially many of those centrists right are just what republicans in different fucking clothing with different mantras. But they're doing the same type of underhanded gripping shit that republicans just due to your face right because they say their work is who gonna fuck and check me eight not a goddamn person because everybody is trying to get on or get off with money in their pockets in their packs right in their businesses. Or what have you. They could give a fuck about the rest of us and this is why i continue to say that revolution to me. Looks like the only direction that we are headed in. Because i'm not quite sure how you continue to try and reform system that was based on grip and racists capitalism. I don't know coming up next. Folks is my conversation with a really dynamic duo who put out a very thoughtful book that i think that this conversation is one. That should be happening a lot more. But doesn't i get to talk with k with lock and nancy heights egg. Who wrote the book car several con the deceptive terrain of criminal justice reform and. I really enjoyed this conversation. It was about thirty five minutes of just listening to these women. Talk about the ways in. Which we've all been duped right by the prison industrial complex that they talk about how it's tentacles reach into every part of our society so i hope that you enjoy that conversation. Let me know what you think about the ideas around. Abolition restoration reform and reimagining. This broken system remmy. Martin joins with international music star. Usher in team up for excellence. The film exploring the history of music culture koniak from blues to hip up. Swing dancing to break dancing usher and ready. Martin travel through the decades in france in the us honoring cultural figures both rooted in shared philosophy of aiming for the stars. See the film at team up for excellence. Dot com remmy. Martin koniak forty percent alcohol by volume imported by remy-cointreau usa. New york new york please drink responsibly. Folks i am so happy to be joined for the first time on woke af daily with k. Wit lock and nancy heights. Egg authors of carcelle silcon the deceptive terrain of criminal justice reform. Thank you to the both of you for one for your work in a topic that i think doesn't get enough attention when you highlight the fact that the united states has four percent of the world's population and yet twenty percent making up of those that are incarcerated. Those are numbers that i think are really difficult to run from and they're really shocking and the premise. I think of your work is we have people organizations administrations that always wanna talk about how we reform this system and the both of you are saying. How do you reform a system that was built on injustice to begin with one of many big conversations that came out of the uprisings over the summer in twenty twenty was abolished. The police right. We had you know multiple very high profile and then many very low profile murders of unarmed black people by police and the conversation got stuck on language right about abolition and not necessarily what that means and so decay. I'll give this to you. I which is you know. How important is language here right when we're talking about we're talking about reform or we're talking about reimagining a system or we're talking about abolition. How important is the language that we're using versus the impact that is needed to change or shrink. I should say this octopus that you're talking about that. Is the prison industrial complex well. The language the rhetorical devices That are used especially to frame. Reform are very important in the sense. That people really need to know how they're being used and misused. Abolition has a long history in this country. And it comes out of a black radical tradition and there are many streams and currents and threats of abolition. Is that have fed this country when we start to see the the gathering of what nancy and i call reform inc. That is the coalescence of an emergent industry. That's going to. It's a public private industry. That's going to manage a reform and it starts to really gain momentum in the brokering of certain kinds of agreements between governments and it's philanthropy driven and agreements between a public and private partners and the rhetoric. They used to fashion some Some of the responses is is really kind of important because they pick rhetoric that they believe will respond to most people and that will actually blunt protests. It seems to be responsive protested seems to be responsive you know we have in in in two thousand nine. We have the oscar grant killings. We have ferguson. We have this unending series of of of killings and the rising of of of of protests and fury about that and actually that starts to gain a lot of public support over the years you can just chart an upward interest in in in abolition things. So when we talk about the rhetoric we can talk about the concepts. Abolition issues and how they get coopted by reformer and how they get undermined so that You know de-fund the police is a slogan that comes out in it means exactly but it says de fund the police by defending the police you reduce contact. The amount of contact people have in communities. And that's going to matter and you free up more resources that should be spent on human needs on social goods on environmental needs completely outside of the criminal justice system but suddenly you have this reform that this backlash from the reform movement saying they don't really mean defend the police. Yes we did. And yes we do they. Don't they're saying all or nothing that that isn't that isn't viable. That isn't viable. Then we start to see the emergence to of people who call themselves abolitionists. But say we're abolitionist. But we believe i you have to build more humane new. Jails we're abolitionist but you know the way to have public. Safety is to have a smaller better. Run jails better trained police so There's a whole rhetoric of reform. That's incredibly deceptive. It masquerades in such phrases as public safety as smaller fairer kinder for jails the hull reimagining rhetoric. It's really interesting. Because i've been working in this particular area and considered myself in abolitionist. Since at least two thousand at late nineteen nineties and a number of abolitionist. Who'd been in it longer than i had. We're already using the reimagining kind of language. Now the vera institute for justice wants to quote reimagined prisons not reduce some. Let's let's make them nicer. Let's make them better. Let's make them an institution of democracy. So we don't let the cooperation of rhetoric get in the way of of saying what we really mean. Yes we do really mean def- defend the police. Yes we do. Mean abolition which is as much about creating the social and economic and ecological conditions in which both individuals and communities especially those who have been marginalized can thrive outside of the criminal legal status of long rhetoric. It's going to be evidence based reform. It's going to be just will not structure. Racism will not touch structural poverty but dressing up reform in certain words that are so compelling that we don't often understand how effective a vehicle so called criminal legal justice just criminal justice system reform is for advancing broader processes of criminalization expansion of police forces literally as a substitute for civil rights. Yet were voting rights for real justice. So it's it's a dark little wonderland of sorts in the rhetoric win Nancy and are talking for example. We're trying to be real specific. About helping people understand. Peel away The co op tation or the or just the deception or the incompleteness. That's in the rhetoric and start to think about the concepts of structural wattage. I think that that makes so much sense right for us to move past the rhetoric and into the concepts but it's the rhetoric that turns into the hashtags that turns into the protests that turns in to all of these different things that i wonder you know i. I wonder nancy to we see our politicians consistently get caught up in this right because if we have conversations about what it means to abolish police really conceptually have conversations about what it means to abolish the prison. Industrial complex on then democrats right. Get the the moniker as being soft on crime. Right and then. Republicans are able to co-opt the mantra law and order. And so i'm wondering from your from your vantage point. you know how. how how. How do we negate those things from happening. Because it's where we get caught up in this vicious cycle where progress really is not made. The progress is really only made so much as we change the language and adapt to the times that we're in but it doesn't actually change the system in and of itself you know i'm sitting here in minneapolis You know when the aftermath of the george floyd mirror and donte right murderer and many murderers many protests earn on the third precinct You know when and thinking about language. And i think how important it is to for abolitionist. To not compromise the language or not try to us ways various political parties i mean. Minneapolis is a very democratic city. Very blue city You know one of the Results of the george floyd murder were some efforts. On the part of the city council and various activist groups like reclaim the block and black visions collective now. Yes for minneapolis to organize and push for some changes to the language of the city charter which mandates you know x. amount of police officers have to You know serve here in in lots of conversation in for more than a year now about Changing the charter about creating a new department of public safety. The police might be powered of You know city council was for this You know it's about potentially defunding police replacing some police fund son's like mental health crisis calls at such a with with You know public health options. Lots of support for this You know twenty two thousand minneapolis residents in signed a petition to get the sun the balance. The backlash has been stunning. You know even in a democratic city backlash from the mayor. You know Backlash from other so-called democrat former politicians. You know the minnesota supreme court now is hearing Whether or not this will even be on the ballot so bottom line i guess and then this is related to everything. That case said I think abolitionist should be real clear. We wanted to fund the police who to abolish the police who abolish the prison industrial complex We might be interested in and certainly supportive of reforms. That immediately mitigate the suffering of those in the system without expanding it. But i don't know i guess. My my view increasingly over time is that so much energy after this energy is spent on trying to play. Kate elected political figure that that that we should just say what we want. Say what would mean. Move forward Working community as as much as we can to you know create an ambition You know another world. This episode is brought to you by federal. Football is back and the best bet you can make is downloading the fan duel sportsbook app. It doesn't matter if you're new gambling or an old pro fan duel has something for everyone and as an official sports betting partner of the nfl. You know your pets are safe. 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The Truth About Christianity and Racism (Part 2)

Lightning Bolts and Leather Jackets

23:01 min | 1 year ago

The Truth About Christianity and Racism (Part 2)

"What's up everybody welcome to lightning bolts and other jackets where we take our concerns and questions about Christianity and figure out a kick in the teeth. I'm victories Asano your host. Here we go. I, saw a really quick before we get started. I just wanted to put another reminder out there that there might be some things in this episode or the previous one that you don't agree with and that's okay. If you get it somewhere in the middle I, encourage you listen to the end. And know that? No matter what my heart is unity. We are one people. God created us, and if we're saved than were one body, no matter what skin color or culture were. From or possess. But if you're offended, you need to ask the Holy Spirit for clarification as to why that is. I remember my heart is not to divide anyone just to speak truth and truth in love. Courage listen to the end and here we go. Okay. Welcome to part two of why it's hard to be Christian without being racist. Now, like we talked about in the first episode, this does not mean that you have to be a Christian else be racist or that it's hard to be actually a Christian without being racist that's not what I'm saying what I'm saying is it's hard to be Christian without being viewed. As. Being racist especially, if you stand up for truth instead of just instead of just popular viewpoint, I ended it last week with story about the local newspaper reaching out to my dad who's pastor of life. Asked me. He would sign. A press release that a bunch of had signed. Admitting that they been complicit in cowardly in the treatment of black. People. Both in their own church and in the history of the church is a whole. And why that spoke to me that there was a different underlying theme being played besides it. Black. Lives matter. Okay I think people that for the police people that are for them. People that engage in discussing general. Of this of this matter are all being played we're all being played. And have a point to this next part. So just bear with me to explain it. Now, some of it, you can look at more info on your own. I think it's important that we hear both sides of. The Story All right. So let's start with statistics. There are an estimated three, hundred, seventy, five, million annual police interactions with citizens. In two, thousand nineteen, nine, hundred, ninety, nine ended in shooting fatalities by the. Fourteen of those. Nine Hundred Ninety Nine Or unarmed black people. One of those was not attempting to resist or evade. Arrest. One. that. One is so important. Right does not mean that police brutality doesn't exist. Doesn't mean that. Ethnic. Prejudice does not exist. I'm saying is those are things that we don't talk about. Also. I'd encourage people want to listen to both sides of the story to listen to Candice Owens. They very powerful voice for Black Conservatives. Who tells both sides of the story? She covers everything she's nine she's not some sort of like. Pandering to the right person she. Asks hard questions on both sides. As if that's the statistics. Okay. Let's go over the shootings like the extra info on the shootings like George. Floyd again did not have to die should not have died it was murder. If you look at the rest of the facts which one he was high on both Meth and Sentinel. Are Going to kill you e-. Eventually, he had previously years before threatened a pregnant black woman at gunpoint. Right and if he wants the entire was resisting arrest and saying I can't breathe from the moment they tried to get him in the car again not saying he needed to die you should not have died. It is a tragedy whenever someone dies. Who is not a believer? Try to die period but it's definitely a tragedy when someone dies and we're not sure where they're going. Okay. And that's just one and if you waited to see the rest of the other shootings as well, you'd find that. The police and the person who was injured or killed. had. Another reason for being there. What about? Cannon. Hit. A five year old boy. was killed. By Darius sessoms. Now I believe this is racially motivated. However. Immediately. decided to ignore this tragedy because it didn't fit their narrative of racism being a problem in the country because I was a white kid who died the hands of a black person nobody cared. because. It didn't fit the story. All right. Also talking about unconscious racism, which is something that I learned a couple weeks ago unconscious racism if you're not familiar. Is. Something that. I'm consciously keeps you from being vulnerable or friendly to people of Color. More than you would to a person of your own culture. Okay. So first of all, it seems that it's only something that white people are responsible for because why people the only people who are talked about being constantly racist as far as my experience is dictated, I haven't called unconsciously racist. And obviously, by a person doesn't know me. But You've got that. All right. Unconscious racism and being on constantly complicit. Let's talk about the clothes that we wear because a good majority of these clothes or shoes or whatever it is that we. By potties are made in sweatshops by Asians. Technically. We're perpetuating sweatshop society in a country that people of a different color than us and we're perpetuating that unconscious because we're being constantly racist against Asian people and all that doesn't count. Because it's not okay. This one. Let's go to the democratic point. Democrats. By and large are supported by black people not A. Not a assumption as a fact most African. Americans vote in the Democrat side of things probably without realizing this but most Democratic candidate support abortion if you are a Christian. And you are voting Democrat. Maybe because everything else you just decide to vote Democrat. Because you're tired of Republicans whatever to our Democrat you are. Realizing or not voting to keep abortion legal. And to make it more legal and more standard. which kills children unborn children, most of which are black because planned parenthood, the abortion clinic company in the world. Has Most of their clinics in. Neighborhoods populated by mostly black people and planned parenthood was established with their founder to eliminate. People. To, eliminate black people. So you have been unconsciously or consciously complicit in murder of more. Children and Hitler had killed. Regular people. Everybody has a reason to have an abortion. I'm not telling you that there's no forgiveness. I'm not telling you that you're a bad person. When I'm trying to tell you. Is that there's a different reason. That society is pushing the race card because it doesn't fit their narrative. Lightning bolts in leather jackets is sponsored by anchor. If you haven't heard about anchor, it's the easiest way to make podcast. It's free their creation tools that allow you record and at your podcast right from your phone or computer anger will distribute your podcast for you. So can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place you can download the free Ankara or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. So I want to establish why the narrative has being perpetuated in a different way and why it's not about. Skin color and racism, issues But I. GOING TO OFFER CLIP AUDIO CLIP RECORDING For Morgan Freeman who know who is a very no well known very well respected black actor is done plenty of other things but. Most people know him as an actor. This isn't an interview sixty minutes several years ago. But even if he did gene just mind which I don't believe he has but even if he did change his mind, it still holds true. How are we going to get rid of racism on started talking about it? I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm to ask you to stop calling me. A black man. So. I would like to point out that he did offer this past year a platform for those to raise two for those to voice their experiences of racism. But that's not what he means by stop talking about it. And another conversation years later with CNN, he talks about don't talk about it. It doesn't exist but stop talking about sin. Stop making it about race. Right. You can compare it to. Three Twenty eight where it says neither neither June or gentile nor slave nor free we are all. If we're believers, we are all united under Christ and even if we're not believers you, we are united under the human race if you want to believe in Adam and Eve right which I do believe in Adam and Eve. We all came from. From one set of parents. Thousands of years ago right All came from the same race human race even if you wanted to take an evolutionary stance. And we all came from the same cell that allegedly evolved into what would now be the human race. It's still the same cell. were, all one. So why are we still talking about it? Right. Why are we still talking about racism like it's diviners us why is half third quarter of the truth or the story being held back when when it doesn't paint the picture of racism being the true problem I'll tell you why and I'll tell you why it's getting worse and I believe it's spiritual. Oh you do in behind every Bush veterans not true. There are plenty of reasons for in or not spiritual. Right. High, blood pressure high cholesterol public you had too much bacon sandwiches. Okay. Not. A demon can fat, but this is spiritual because Satan. Hates unity he from the very beginning of his fall he cultivated on offense against God and divided himself and other angels away from God. Then he divided man against God with tempting in the garden then he divided man against man or man against woman. Right man against each other when Adam blames eve. For him eating the fruit does by causing offense defense breeds, impulsive reactions instead of listening to the whole story or waiting to find out and being slow to speak quick to listen we react and we overreact the biggest example of this right now about this narrative being pushed is the Smithsonian and I the video were talked about whiteness perpetuating America and before that before the example that I gave in the first episode. Right, that was their fixed version, their original version, which you can find if you count line is way worse it talks about whiteness basically perpetuating the narrative of monotheism and Christianity and a nuclear family that touch respecting authority and hard work all these different things that are allegedly for only white people. that. Are. Hard core values of Christianity how are you gonNA tribute monotheism to White People. That is just so inaccurate and the reason they did that is not because they're drinking the Cooley. The reason they're doing is because they want you and me to drink the KOOL, aid? And the more we let the narrative lead us by the hand and bend the knee to whatever it is. They say that we need to been the need you because we're afraid that by not that by resisting, we're not showing the love of Christ. That's what's complicit and cowardly, but I have a solution. Don't talk about it after the break. It's story time. So if you don't know what storytime is, we stop this heavy conversation that we're having in the podcast and break it up with a light hilarious story from my life or childhood or or whatever is GonNa make you laugh. So we're talking about one time when I was around nineteen I was asleep. There's not a story about like another dream that I had. This is real life I was asleep. And woke up in the middle of the night I felt a couch fell barely. Well up in the middle of the night. Went up to my room. Fell Asleep and then we'll up woke up in the morning. Houses deadly quiet like like there's no sounds. Okay. And for a split second I, think that the rapture happened, we don't know what the rapture is. It's basically Like Jesus comes back and takes all the believers up. Into heaven any leaves all the nonbelievers here so that the rest of the stuff that needs to happen for him to completely return happens, right? Hell. Panel, after it happened and I waited. Waited and I. Hear a faint like snicker. Everybody's they're still. Family comes out of their bedrooms and like we like wanted you to believe that the rapture happen like we thought it would be hilarious and they're led me downstairs. and. I didn't see it when I woke up the first time. But they lived there close like in sitting positions. So that looked like. The rapture happened right there in the living room couch. It's mean that's funny if you know that. Generally the assumption is. You're going to be taking just your body's going to be taken. New Body Soul said, the clothes are GONNA left there. So when their APPS does happen, it's going to be a pile of clothes. For All the believers and people are going to be left scratching their heads, you know sometimes family got like a second set of clothes and laid them out on the couch. In anticipation that I, look around, see all the clothes and things that the rapture happened that I was left behind for Armageddon. So, funny like in retrospect it's funny in the. News like in the moment to but if I had seen it like in the middle of the night, it really freaked me out would have been like. Oh. So. That's the story about how my family faith rapture. This has been storytime. Own. All right I know I'm getting animated. I'm getting back I. You can tell probably that I'm I'm passionate and somewhat frustrated about what's going on and honestly I don't apologize for that. It's a volatile issue and the fact that the was being pulled over. So many people's eyes makes me legitimate loop set. And I'm passionate about it because I want people to see the truth and I want unity to be promoted instead of division. This is not something that's going to be able to be fixed easily or on a large scale without divine intervention. But we can. Individually, as we're led by the spirit, right, you can still treat people. Their regular people? Without showing favoritism and without seeming like you are a racist or like you're not a racist. Speaking truth is not a crime. And if you get canceled quote unquote because you're speaking truth guess what So Jesus he was canceled all the way up to crucifixion. I'd rather be cancelled culture and canceled by Christ. Okay. So even if you don't agree with what I'm saying, that's fine. I can still be friendly towards you doesn't bother me I'm sad. That, you're not giving the other side of the viewpoint chance when I won't be. intimidated. By. The fact that if I don't say something. That I'm being violent against black people or that my opinion doesn't matter because. I'm not fully educated on the subject 'cause I didn't watch like. A sermon series. I. Didn't listen to enough black people telling their story this it's not about that. The about intentionally dividing the nation and the people inside of it. So they don't get along division. Breeds, chaos and chaos in division neither of those things are from. God. Can Listen we can empathize. Just. Don't be bullied. and. If you love God and love other people like he said, right leather neighbor as yourself treat other people where you want to be treated. Then you're not gonNA end up treating people in a racist manner even when he told him the truth. And we treat other people better better than certain other people because of their skin color when we treat black people better than white people. Guess what that's prejudice to and you say, Oh, well, they earned it. They were they deserve it because of reparations or whatever I think the Jews would have a lot to say about that about reparations for one thing, there are people that have been bullied. And terrorized from Linnea and they claim no operations. They are very proud people hold their head high claim. Justice for anything you want to know why? Because they already know that God gave it to them when he set them free. and. They live their free. They don't live like they're victimized and because our hardest to please God and not people that speak the truth and standing for unity instead of what's right? Allegedly what's right? What's touted his right by the mass majority? Who May I remind? You doesn't believe the way that Christians do if we stand for unity and what's truly right and what's truly true. That's what's going to be honored in the end. Not Bending the knee. To serve societies. Viewpoints. I understand meeting people where they're at. You know I'm not saying you. GotTa. Go to every person who's struggling with the idea of racism say it's all a narrative global black. I don't I'm not saying to do that. You know the people are. The can take the truth from the Holy Spirit and cultivated into. Honest conviction where they are truly inspired to change their viewpoint in their lives. Ended with two things. Ns. With. Verse. Romans twelve eighteen do all you can to live in peace with everyone other version says. It depends. On you, you don't have to cause people to stumble. You don't have to get in their face. Piece, is not the absence of conflict just like joy Is Not, the absence of sadness happiness is dependent. On happenings. Joy is the ability to live. Free. Because we know that we're free in Christ. Peace is ability to live. At peace in conflict because we know the battle is lords than we know where we stand in the site of truth. So you can still speak truth. Without fear. Of being labeled as a racist or a victim or or whatever. You're afraid of some, you were focusing on notice. For people that it's not the same. Racism against black people is not the same as abortion or Jews or Latinos or whatever it is you WANNA phase not the same. were focusing on this because of a personal experience or inexperience of someone close to you in you're carrying offense and offense is something that the enemy will use to keep you divided and it's a lot easier to keep fighting for that. Admit that you were wrong where he meant that you need to think about some things. And Change Your viewpoint because just because you wrong doesn't make you a bad person doesn't make you bet Christian it just makes you an imperfect human being my whole life has been based on the trying to learn to be teachable and others justice. Needs to be justice. Can Get so caught up in the justice of things that we missed the part about truth and mercy and fact that justice is not necessarily unilateral and human justice while. At least slightly important because it does come from right just desire to have justice from God right? It's not the same God's justice. God's justice was sacrifice. Truth. Love and sacrifice. Nephew don't listen. That's fine. I did my part, but I feel led. To pray for you I, am not the prophet son of a prophet, but I can tell you that prayer. Powerful, and I want to speak this prayer. Or anyone who is willing to listen. I pray that the Holy Spirit Will. cause. You to question the narrative not just from this side, but from either side. From whatever side tries to push an agenda for you a question it. Pray the Holy Spirit will cause on easing until it is dealt with in the more courtly, you will ask yourself why you're doing it. Because you're offended because you want justice. Or is it because you're afraid or you feel uneducated? Feel like you're not going to be a a good Christian. If you don't agree with the majority, vote my pray that you will have clarity. You will have peace and conflict. And Joy and sadness. Pray. That the truth will be revealed. No matter what. You allow the spirit to lead you. Instead of alleged facts and until you do. That, it will pick and pick and pick you until you allow the spirit to do its rightful work. Choose his name Amen and remember just because you don't immediately react or feel founded doesn't mean you have to answer. Anyone. Who Does I'll see you guys in the next episode hopefully a little bit lighter of one before I dive back into something a little more controversial. We'll see you guys next time. Until. Then this is Victor Suzano encouraging you to be a bolt of fresh air.

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Sebi-Mania- Molecules & Shit #39

"Good afternoon good morning good evening. Whenever you're listening to this this is molecules and shit and this is the science podcast? I'm your co host P funk at going around on twitter and this is your host cookie Negra Dr Sir. How are you enjoying spring? It's already too hot. It's been a man I saw where my jacket no. It's I was out this morning already at the Post Office of course and <hes> yeah it's it's like almost like a sauna. I mean it's not as hot as a sauna but it's completely saturated air and it's like above sixty already or at least it was at nine o'clock so because it was raining last night okay. I haven't been outside the house yet so I have the idea but last few the last few days it was kind of funny but then the wind was kicking up felt like it was forty five what is happening. What season is this? That's okay with me. I like the seasons where I don't have to run the heat or the air conditioning guess when I could just open a window. It's like it's too cold or hot in here. I was hoping to window better save money because I know Virginia these electric bills garbage life the Old Dominion. What can you say yeah? It's <hes> especially in two thousand nineteen when you have to keep your governor who kept on black facie. Your options are very unlimited. Yeah Yeah 'cause it's either the governor black-faced our governor rapist. I mean has governing black governor rapist or governor black bar to or Republicans like the governor black face. What do they say they're small choice in rotten apple just messed up that's true but what does that? Tell you about your own party like I don't know if I was a Republican. I'd be thinking good God if the black people don't like is when they have two races and us to choose from what the fuck does that say they don't care about us so they're nothing about US anyway. Of course it is to push their own agenda of something whatever it is we're were named Candice Owens. Please don't I you know what offends me about her. Not Her views which are offensive enough not even even her dry ends which everyone twitter's crispy ends it but no it's the fact that I have prepared people to speak in front of the Senate. I have written briefs for Lorde the senator so he was ready for hearing. This woman has absolutely no expertise. How did she get to be a witness? Someone called her. I don't know but who is working that. This is what they called for an expert in something. That's what bothers me I feel like Ted lieu ask for her just when bears her because I feel special kind of guy that because setback with his temple fingers like Mr Mr Mr Perkins he played that recording Hitler wasn't so bad and you just sat there tipple fingers like mission accomplished and just let it explode on the Mike he he definitely has an agenda. He has an approach. I'll say that he has an approach to doing what he does but he had this isn't a politics and shit. I might be an offshoot. We do one day just go full board because in two thousand eighteen and nineteen. It's hard to avoid but actually this is the science show so we're going to jump right into the science because someone has plans today has plans <hes> all right so oh I saw this today and I figured everyone was freaking out and it was something that we should address because it's super super important. We should all panic right. There is a new fungal superbug and it's probably humanities fault. Wait a minute. Wait a minute wait. Something's going on here yeah so if you were anywhere near the Internet this week you probably saw story about a deadly fungus. That's been spreading around since the early twenty tens that fungus can deed oris undeniably has public health officials on edge but it story also contains some important lessons for the public so back in two thousand nine seven year old Japanese woman got an ear infection which puzzled doctors <hes> the fungus kills more than one in three people who get an infection that spreads their blood or organs hits people with weakened immune systems and most likely most often found in places like care homes and hospitals and there was the other <hes> widely circulated story in the New York Times. I think we mentioned this. I think we saw this on twitter. This is what I saw on twitter with the New York Times article and described this fungus that killed a man in the New York City Hospital and tests showed it was everywhere in his room so invasive that the hospital needed needed special cleaning equipment and had to rip out some of the ceiling and floor tiles to eradicate it so that sounds super dangerous and we should be running around in a panic right no and I actually if view follow me on twitter. You'll see that are different June from Harlem was running in circles and I had this lower down and I even called in some of the experts that I know because I kind of know about this but I've never worked with it because it it didn't show up until after I left laboratory but Candida R._S.. <hes> as a rule it really only infects people who have some other kind of underlying problem so as you can see they're talk about people who have weakened immune systems people who are in nursing homes and hospitals okay so they're older or their sicker. You know this is not something that most people have to worry about <hes> it is hard to get rid of but also also there are an awful lot of surfaces in hospitals that really shouldn't be there like if you look up and see the ceiling tiles and they have all kinds of ribbing and stuff you you you should have flat surfaces hospital. Boars pours like Styrofoam right healing the idea <hes> so there is that and then the problem with some of these is that they are resistant to one antibiotic. That's just one yeah but it's the one usually will use okay but they they mentioned anti bungles. Is that different from Anti Bot. I mean it's okay so antibiotics antifungal antivirals they're all anti-microbials Sir and each one of them usually works on some aspect of the the <hes> bacteria or fungus or virus that the human cells do not have okay. It's always a little bit harder to treat a fungus than it is to treat it bacteria because <hes> fungi are eukaryotic cells like mammalian cells are eukaryotic cells so so you really have to target them and typically if you are an Antifungal you have to take it for a lot longer than you do. <hes> <hes> an antibiotic like if you've ever had athlete's foot you know how long it takes to get rid of it whereas if you have like a urinary urinary tract infection by the time you take three doses you feel better so what is it about funguses that is so resistant to ourselves natural defenses. They clearly can recognize that. It's a foreign matter right so what makes them so resilient difficult. I don't think they're they're so resilient or difficult. I think it's just that the drugs that you wind up having against them. Just are not as fast they also don't Rome white as fast as bacteria so you know for bacteria literally you target the cell wall or you target you know one of the enzymes or something and in forty eight hours. It's pretty much cleared out whereas you know but that's not all bacteria. I mean something like to Burke. Yellow says you wind up having to beyond the Anti T._B.. Drugs or something like nine months because they grow so slowly so it's not a question of bacteria versus fungi. It's really a question of each one of these organisms and how they behave the FBI cuddly progressing slowly drugs work slowly. Is that fair to say that's part of it and also it's just a little bit more difficult to get them to work. What you're trying to do is kill a eukaryotic inside of a eukaryotic as opposed to care to try to kill a pro carry out inside of a eukaryotic those two don't overlap at all basically so it's really easy to clear out some of those infections <unk> particularly if they're not resistant to any of the drugs yet okay so it sounds kind of like a it's what we call an emerging infectious disease? We haven't seen this before okay so yeah. That is something else that they mentioned in the article. They said scientists his aren't sure where the fungus lives in nature in other words. There's no sample on record of what candied orange look like before it mutated into the four distinct types that are causing problems in hospitals so I guess that's it's unnatural. It's not natural or not normal to run into an infection that hasn't been observed somewhere else in nature before is that unusual but that that's what the whole field of emerging infectious diseases are we don't know until we meet them and so this is one of those I think you know for what for what is known obviously the Microbiology Society is already published quite a bit on this <hes> which is why I knew where to go exactly for the experts and I pulled two of them real quick 'cause I know them <hes> but you know the the New York Times article made it look like it's running through the world and it's going to kill us all and it's resistant to everything and you can't clean it and you know basically ugly. They told me calm down bleach will clean it kills one in three people. It says right here in this popular science article it kills one in three people that it infects not one in three people and as I said at the beginning there's usually already already something wrong with you. You know as I said weakened immune system nursing homes hospitals already something problem. If you're in one of those place you no okay so in emerging fungal infection. This is basically par for the course. There's nothing is it is it is unusual because it did pop out of nowhere but you know that happens fairly often. It's just it doesn't doesn't usually happen in developing nations and it doesn't <unk>. It's usually not something brand new usually what you find is. This is a fungus and it picked up a bunch of violence genes from somewhere else and so we've seen this before but we haven't seen it behave this way but we know what the organism is. Ours is is Kinda knew we have not seen that before and yes there are some of them that are resistant to the the first line of Defense Antifungal drugs <hes> and the problem is once you realize that how fast can you switch to something else. Before this poor patient who sick already <hes> you switch it so that they can survive. I mean at this point one in three who get it will not survive but that means two and three will so again then what we really need is really good diagnostics quick to make sure you know if treating with this antibiotic I mean this Antifungal will work or not and then you just go to the second thing but the problem is the twenty four hours when you realize this is not changing at all <hes> we're not real happy with this. Let's check and make sure that it's not resistant to someone so well. That's too late. How quickly can they you walk into an emergency room or a doctor's office? How quickly can they identified that? This particular fungal infection is candied orange. How long does it take? It depends on where you go. If you're in a very large area like we are wearing the d._m._v.. There are a lot of tertiary hospitals here there. This is an academic medical <music> center <hes> City so you know if you walk into someplace that's associated with Georgetown or George Washington or Howard you know the these are really good laboratory areas even if it's the children's hospital or something if you walk into an emergency room in my hometown. It's probably GonNa take a day or two longer depending on how sick you are that day. Hey you're too. Maybe too long right. 'cause I figure a doctor can identify pretty quickly that you have a fungal infection but it would take an extra day or two longer from the figure out what kind of infection right well. It's not really the doctor. It's the laboratory. Diagnosed like doctor can look at your symptoms and look at the patient go okay. You have some kind of fungal infection infection. It's not always easy to tell like so this this the first case it was an ear infection fungi. Don't usually affect your ear you know so you'd say Oh otitis media and you give him an antibiotic and you send them home well. If it's a fungus the antibiotics not going to help and they'll be back in two or three days later much more like in this case. The lady died the one in New York. I believe it was a respiratory infection. I think and so you know that's not the first thing you think you think you know viral viral bacterial. Maybe the person has T._B.. You're not thinking about Candida like it. I guess what they say in medical school is if you hear hoof beats you think horses not zebras drew this Zebra Okay and I think also I wonder if that <hes> that saying it's still so holds true because of the amount of travel and how transient people are nowadays in how probably still is you know if somebody comes in with a urinary tract infection. It's still probably eight times out of ten. It's going to be E.. Coli but you still have to be aware of the other two <hes> but yeah so so what will happen in his you know they'll see if they take a blood sample or you know a respiratory sample or whatever the it goes down into the laboratory. If it's a respiratory sample once you do a gram stain you should be able to see oh these these these are fungi and <hes> almost everything is automated. Now I mean they'll certainly probably try to grow it up but a lot of a lot of these especially if it's a blood infection election goes on a machine and after a couple of hours they can say there's some growth in it you gram stain and you look at it and you can you at least have some idea okay. This looks like it could be candidate. Okay <hes> and then if you're lucky and you're in a widely populated area with a whole bunch of medical schools and large clinical laboratories somebody might figure this out in you know five six hours okay so it sandwiches a hell of a lot faster than it used to be which used to be three days so it sounds like we we shouldn't be worried. Get this is just a it's not a pandemic. It's not on the rise. It's just something that we need to be aware of this. I guess I think you know these are the kinds of things you have to think about if you are like I am in regular contact with older. People parents are definitely over seventy <hes> if you've had a or someone in your life is on <hes> some sort of drug that suppresses their immune system you know are they on some sort of steroids to to deal with their rheumatoid arthritis or you know l.. Have they had a transplant. Are They H._I._V.. Positive are they diabetic. You know so those are the kinds of things you think about an are they going into the hospital like my biggest fear is that you go into the hospital and you get something in you. Don't come out so like when one of my parents hostile or somebody I know who's in the hospital I'm in there with Lysol and bleach and just because whatever they came in there with I want them to leave without. It and I don't want to bring in anything else home. Wow so you you'd feel the need. You have to do that yourself I do but I'm a microbiologist okay so you but that's not really paranoia then. That's just no. It's not it's I know I know so like when I come in. I have either the Lysol spray or the or you know I don't I try not to come in with plane bleach but I would like to the door and and the bed rails and the telephone own in the remote control and the nurse call button and all that kind of stuff wash your hands going in wash your hands coming out. Let me just say that's a little bit shady if you went to someone's House with a bucket of bleach in hand. Excuse me that's right. I know but I mean they do have cleaning crews. I presume still but you know it's like cleaning in a hotel you do you gotta get it done fast and the fact fact of the matter is in most hotels. There aren't people who were deathly ill with everything shrew you know and so what happens in in hospitals is that the patient down the hall may have something and no matter how are when you touch something on their way to elevate okay so you know that is the one place where it is okay to be Germaphobe. <hes> you know and I just I'm not kidding around about that. I don't care who's feelings a hurt now and I've had nurses come in. I'm like please wash your hands. Well I just want I didn't see you just do it. That is that you kind of have to you would think that would be a sterile environment or as close to a sterile environment. You know in a city that you would see would be in a hospital hospital. People in the hospital are sick <hes> that that might be another topic that we talk about is like how how can they mitigate those risks like how can they keep infections contain to the patients or the seasons room. There's a whole like career track for people who do that. Oh okay there's a whole thing you know. I think hospital acquired infections are on their way down finally because I heard they were on the rise for a long time. They're much better than they were hospital. Acquired infections became a big thing about ten years ago like stop this but now they're much better but there's something called infection prevention ists and they're like the Special C._S._i.. Squad in to make sure you don't give patient as infection the patient see okay yeah. I'M GONNA look for articles on that might be a good topic to talk about on the show. Okay well speaks on the microbiology slant. We're talking about superbugs and unique ways to treat them. You sent me this article on the way it's not a super bowl. Can we can reach SORTA get rid of that. It's not a superbug would antibiotic an antifungal resistant organisms are not super. They're not different than the other ones they don't don't get on legs and walk around and kill people they don't they just don't respond to the drugs. We think they should respond to. That's it right. They don't dig holes in your insides. You know they don't bust out through your stomach. Stomach like like alien. They're just bacteria and fungi that are not responding to the drugs we normally use sometimes you just switched to the next drug and they're fine. Would you say they're like the term superbug is misguided. It'd be misleading because they're not any more dangerous or lethal. They're just resistant it right okay. That's exactly it now. The only time I agree with the use of something like superbug is if it it contains all of the various factors in it can make you just as sick and then it's not resistant to that and then it's resistant to everything extended resistant organisms like there's a T._b.. That there is no drug that will kill it. Oh you're in bad shape. If you get that one they put you in quarantine and just hope that your body takes care of it because there's not much they can do so there is something that scientists and professionals would refer to as superbug just not what we're calling it in the general okay. There are some organisms at there was a whole series of the this is a whole `nother topic that we probably should talk about but I think we might have mentioned it some time ago that there were scientists that were looking for ways that that <hes> influenza could either become make you sicker or infect more people can be more virulent or more infectious. We mentioned that before we talk about that a good thing or bad thing well it depends on where you are standing on it but the thing is if you had an organism that is now more infectious and more virulent that would be a superbug okay but just just resistance to one or one kind of Antifungal drug or antiviral or antibacterial drug doesn't make you a superbug got it okay all right so that that's sounds like it's just the language of the people you want to sell newspapers. That's like an editorializing of sorts okay all right that makes sense all right so another tiny killer. Well not really a killer but sickle sickle cell disease. There is now significant progress on work to using crisper to treat sickle cell so let's see recently on C._B._S.. Sixty minutes there was a story of a woman in General L.. Stevenson she has sickle cell disease and she now appears potentially cured banks to an experimental gene therapy being tested at the N._I._H.. Clinical Center and but that's the groundbreaking research may be it's among a variety of innovative strategies now being tried to cure CD and other genetic diseases that have long seemed out of reach so basically they're using the <hes> they they did some research in the observed that some people have increased levels of what they call fetal hemoglobin. Yes that basically stem cells for hemoglobin. That's the first type of hemoglobin that's produced in the body while you're still in Utero. That's why it's called Fetal Hemoglobin once once you're born basically you switch over to what ever your real blood type is going to be okay so oh <hes> typically hemoglobin A. But <hes> it'll switch over and they've shown for many years now that people with sickle cell disorder who do better they tend to have higher higher levels of hemoglobin f the Fetal Hemoglobin Hemoglobin so I'm not surprised that this is one of the first things they've reached for because they've known this for some meantime I'd say at least twenty years <hes> so they said basically since researchers observed that those who do have the sickle cell trait and also high levels of fetal hemoglobin like you said do much better and have almost no symptoms they are looking at they were they were testing out in increasing the levels of fetal hemoglobin and other sickle cell patients to see that had any effect. Yes the the thing that I think we want to make clear that there are some people who do the fetal hemoglobin and don't have sickle cell is something that occurs naturally it has nothing to do with sickle villages. Sometimes it happens together right and so what they what they did was they looked at the the persistence of fetal hemoglobin in people without sickle cell. I okay so it wasn't one of those things like hey. Let's just experiment on people who have sickle also I know our listeners will start thinking about bad things right right okay and so they they had success with this one patient and it looks like they're going to figure out ways to repeat it in other patients GonNa try yeah okay so I mean it just seems like a good example of science and going in the right direction potentially being permanent you or permanent regular treatment well the other thing about it. which I think is really important too to note is that they are working on non? <hes> what's the way to put this non reproductive cells okay okay so when they mess around with this particular gene so that they increase the amount of fetal hemoglobin. It's not in the germline so this is not cloning is not something within. You're gonNA pass onto your children. <hes> it's just somatic cells so that gets around the whole coning argument <hes> gene editing research as a rule the the practitioners they have an opposition to germline gene editing <hes> <hes> and that's in response to that Chinese guy who claims he used crisper on embryos embryo's yeah so we just a leash to take one step back for listeners where like me don't quite understand. What can you talk a little bit about the mechanics of how this trip would actually work like what what physically are they doing to the patient to to? To get this result well I haven't read the paper concur. I assume what they're doing is taking <hes> bone marrow cells that will become red cells and editing those so they take those out of the patient their own bone marrow cells they do something they changed them in the lab with crisper okay and then they reintroduced that into their bone marrow I not sure as I said I didn't read taper but that that seems the clearest way to do it. Does those blast cells will then produce lots of other redbook red blood cells because I think a lot of times when they talk about these things like in the news they don't really get into into the nitty gritty of what's happening like people probably imagine like you just stick them in a big machine happens you know so. I think it's it's helpful to kind of be able to visualize what that treatment would look like for the patient yeah. It looks probably like they a draw some sells out they manipulate them. They grow them in culture. They put him back okay all right and then the body kind of does the rest yeah and this this one particular gene is the thing that date it's called B._C.. L. Eleven eight and that is the that's the switch that tells the blood cells to go from fetal to adult hemoglobin so I guess they break the switch and it stays fetal which is fine and it's actually kind of better because in Utero you gotta snatch you gotTa snatch oxygen from the mother so it's sort of a more active hemoglobin okay and so just off the top of your head. If you were just to spit ball and think about it what would be the next condition or disease with test this owner try this on what else would be susceptible to this kind of treatment yeah. I don't know I'm not a hematologist in sickle cell is probably the thing I know best. <HES> <hes> probably the next step would be other Hemoglobin Odyssey's Beta fallacy ziemia <hes> Hemoglobin C disorder. Maybe the leukemia's but you know I'm not I'm not well versed enough to know where the where the research is on those I mean sickle cell was the first sort of molecular disorder that we understood. There's a single nucleotides changed in sickle cell that goes from healthy hemoglobin to sickle hemoglobin Goldman so it's a very straightforward disease. One gene is it's not even one gene. It's one nuclear tied. That's different so this is just to clarify for everyone. This is a very specific targeted a treatment and he gets it uses crisper but it's not something that could just be universalize in the crisper treatments for everything not at this time because you don't know you don't know exactly the mechanism of action for many other diseases some you do so but I think probably the reason why sickle cell is the first one chosen is because we understand it so well okay well. That's a good news story story kind of a feel good. Yes it is especially if it works in other people besides the first person right and then is that something that <hes> if it doesn't take the first time you could try again without risk to the patient well anytime time you've gone into somebody's blood bone marrow. There's going to be risk. Oh really it's not something you can safely be extracted. It's it's a dangerous procedure sure it is you take a bone saw and go into your thighbone. Oh Oh I did I really did I thought it was a great big needle and they just kind of stick it in and they pull out themselves. They hit a bone saw and cut through alone is in your bowl yeah but hints the big needle through and pull out a little bit and he'll. It's a pretty big needle dull. Oh I mean it's not like when you go in and get your flu shot that kind of needle. It's a a big need okay did not understand that part of the process so they literally have to put you under and cut through your put you under I've definitely done bone marrow tat before okay. Maybe just talk about that a little bit. What are they look? Look like so. It's like it's a really big needle and there's almost like it's been a long time so they may have a better way to do it but you sort of have to screw it laid it kind of reminds me of a corkscrew to Israel so they drill into your own listen. You're five on is the biggest hardest bone in your whole body everything rest on it. That's a big ASS buffum. Don't get in that with a little needle okay so you drill into the bone and then once it's exposed the Merrill you then you put the needle and pull it out and then you suck then you suck the marrow out. I forget what we were doing but we are looking for specials and we had to I. I don't even remember the case now. It was a long time ago uh-huh but yeah so it's not like and what if you get an infection you know it's. It's not worry free so it's somewhat traumatic okay so it's a little invasive somewhat traumatic. It's not do sample than having sickle cell sure okay do that often. If you can avoid God it okay all right so no cure without pain. I guess Jesus there's nothing without pain in this world they will you know what the causing a lot of pain recently what conspiracy theories cheese your favorite king conspiracy theory has returned. The Ghost of Dr Savvy has risen so it was so it was so weird how quickly this happen in how quickly they can because okay so nipsy hustle I wanted to say was it a couple of weeks ago like two weeks ago roughly flee when you shot and killed when he was killed it was I want to say maybe forty eight hours before people started saying or referencing the fact that he wanted to create a Doctor City Debbie documentary in that the reason he was killed was to silence him and prevent this documentary. Now it turns out the real reason he was killed because he had some sort of dispute within thint a specific individual in that specific individuals decided that he didn't WanNa talk about it and shot and killed him tragic in and of itself but now everyone is trying to hold them up as a martyr for the doctor said he 'cause and for you all don't remember we talked about him. Honor Hotel Nutrition way back in the day. No I thought it was when we discussed the naming of the show because I think Craig from Virginia was with. I talked about it. Oh No we talked about Oh yeah. We talked about him then and we talked about on hood nutrition so we talked about him. Because there was the there are products that were being sold on the guy with the burn of head. Yes Oh my God and like literally his entire Scalp scabbed up using the supposed- natural remedy for I believe it was hair loss or something like that and beyond that because that's stuff was outweigh after he was dead so it might have been somebody just using his name however exactly equiping if the brand right is the brand so people you know hold that so just quickly refresh doctor said he was a physician. No He's not a scientist. He was not a nutritionist. He was a Charlotte so south called doctor said he was a holistic charlatan. Basically who would used who claim to be able to use natural remedies to cure all sorts of conditions and diseases including in most famously H._i._V. Aids and so people in the whole tip culture and people in the you know who truly believe that holistic medicine is better or superior to modern medicine or Western medicine held him up as like a a martyr who has taken before his time so when who had the you know the keys to all these diseases and if only we had listened to him and now he was taken away from us and Nipsy Russell went on the breakfast club and was talking about how he wanted to do a documentary about the court case that was brought against doctor semi which supposedly he was victorious in and that was why he was killed according to some so it says in the late nineteen eighties Dr Sabahi whose given name was Alfredo Barrington Bowman was at the center of several criminal proceedings for practicing medicine without a license in nineteen eighty gate the state of New York sued Dr Welby for making unsubstantiated therapeutic claims after he paid for ads in the Amsterdam news the village voice and New York Post thing that AIDS has been cured the state attorney told doctor said we'd take down the ADS or face is legal ramifications for initial fee of five hundred dollars and eighty dollars for each additional visit patients were told they could be cured of AIDS and other diseases to cure consisted of various herbal products for each of which U. S. H._A.. Made Therapeutic claims the state said in its lawsuit against the medical practitioner at a time when practice right that quote unquote medical quote unquote at a time when people were dying from AIDS at record numbers doctor said he was a leader in the natural remedies movement as part of darker cities practice he prescribed a strict Vegan diet that cut out alcohol sugar and iodized salt to help the body regenerate and heal itself so he wasn't even really offering a cure he was saying if you eat healthy your body will do it yeah yeah and the thing with these charlatans is there's always a grain of truth. Yes you are much better. If you follow a vegetarian diet the Vegan Diet exercise you don't drink and you don't smoke. Yes you will be better off and you feel better yeah however <hes> there's nothing in his so-called Diet that works for infectious diseases so you know if you get a candidate hours and you decide. I'm just GONNA eat vegan. It's not going to cure you now. This is where the conspiracy part comes in. It's always when there's the gap in information in it allows people to fill it in with whatever they want so doctor said he took his findings to trial in New York where the medical practitioner provided examples of seventy seven patients he claimed to have cured and he won the case but information about his treatment was never popularized so hence people believe well if he won the case the judge or the jury wherever it was must have decided that he cured these people or they couldn't prove that he didn't incur- those people yeah no no. No none of this is no lot. The lots of people win the case and are still guilty as Hell <hes> O. J. O. J. was the dude in Florida she killed Trayvon. Oh Yeah Yeah that guy too so there's that but the thing is if this let me tell you something. If this man had a cure for AIDS there is no way on earth that he is not lionised. Some pharmaceutical company buys his information or whatever he has for like a gazillion zillion dollars. You don't kill him. You get what he has. That's thank you because big Pharma works. Remember was telling you about my do something. That's really remarkable by the company right. Remember what I was telling you about my colleagues who believed that sticking Manuka honey and you're GonNa hold on yes there are they are big proponents of Dr Savvy so they believe that you know he did cure aids and that was the first thing I told him like look. People <unk> are inherently greedy. If he had the cure for aids it would not take long before I don't Philip Morris or whoever the fuck would be on his doorsteps buying whatever it is. He's doing or outright stealing it. They don't make they say well. They make more money me from treatment. That may do the cure. I'm like no you don't make a lot more money from the cure because you can also presumably learn a lot more from the cure than you would from treatment. They're not entirely wrong about that and that is the reason why we don't have as many new antibiotics as we should talk about that because all right imagine that you have hypertension. You have to take the pill for hypertension the pretension every day for the rest of your life until you you know the other things you're doing to lower your blood. Pressure picks effect so you work. Oh some of us. Have you know hypertension in the family. And no matter what you do it doesn't help so you have to be on it or you have high cholesterol. I know somebody who has familial high cholesterol. He had to go on cholesterol drugs when he was in his thirties and he's very healthy he ran and <music> ate no meat and all that stuff but if you've got the jeans for genes for it so they'd rather keep you on lipitor forever because they make more money than we're going to spend it costs the same amount of money to develop a drug. I bet everybody uses as nobody uses cost the same. You have to have the trials. You have to have the F._D._A.. Say It's okay sometimes between the beginning and the time it winds up on the shelf could that'd be five hundred million dollars could be billion dollars okay and so they're only. I don't know fifty blockbuster drugs. Maybe you know you've got the Boehner pills and the lymph tour and the all the stuff for you know when you get old and you become an old fart and you need all of the gastric pills that sort of stuff those are your on it forever the diabetes drugs. Have you noticed how many diabetes commercial there are aunt because that's blockbusters. You gotta take it every day. Sometimes twice a day so those are the drugs that make money if you can think of it the same way as you do like <hes> blockbuster movies all of the the emcee you stuff they just ad after ad after ad after because they want you to go see it and that pays for all the movies that we don't see 'cause they really weren't that great or they no one wants to pay a twenty dollars ticket to go see yeah so so with with big Pharma I mean it is a business which is why we're sort of in trouble because we want twenty years ago. We wanted everything run by business. Why why would we have the government pay to develop drugs? This is why so now we just talked about some some fungal infection that we don't have the drug to treat and the reason why we don't have a lot of drugs in the pipeline is because antifungal antibiotics even antivirals except for for you know HIV which is another. This is the kind of <hes> long term condition. You have to take the pill everyday so the company is going to invest in that because they get a return you have to take the drug everyday for an ear infection or I have skin infection or have this fungal infection. We talked about you. Take the course of treatment either for for most bacteria at seven days. No more maybe fourteen for fungal infection. It might be two months and that's it. You don't take it anymore. So if I'M GONNA invest a billion dollars into bringing a drug to market. It's not going to be an antibiotic once you take for two weeks and that's it so then I wonder is it such that that for example let's say I I have this drug this HIV drug and I'm able to treat HIV and they take it every day for the rest of their life and then I discover someone who's already found a drug or some treatment that cures HIV we do. I not want anyone to know about that. What I buy it to squash it or would I buy it to sell it? You buy it to sell it but then doesn't that harm your revenue from this other drug that you will take for life. It depends on what kind of cure and I'm using air quotes that that actually is so lots of times. What you hear is this is a cure is not a cure? It's like <hes> <hes> <hes> prep- It will decrease the the possibility that you get it. Of course that's not really a cure right but why women company by that and besides with H._I._V.. V There are so many cases in the world no company is going broke even if a pure shows up but yeah the the idea that and somebody will crush it because none of that is right I mean companies companies are supposed to make money. I get it which is why I firmly stand for government labs like like all of these breakthroughs that so we talked about today you see. They all start with N._I._H.. N._I._H. Funding or the N._I._H.. Center there's a hospital on a N._I._H.. Is Campus where people get retreated and all that kind of stuff all of that federal. That's all the United States money and that's who always starts this stuff because companies don't start anything. It's all too much. It's too much of of a risk for them. They wait till a real scientist figure something out and then they take it from there. Okay do you think <hes> the incentives would change if people go ahead to pay out of pocket for drugs or if only the government purchaser like there was a single payer that is policy that I cannot discuss one way or the other you know not because I'm not allowed to but I don't. I don't know the health economics well enough to say one way or the other <hes>. Here's here's what I know until you have the government involved for for some of these necessary drugs. You will never get them done. So one of the things I do is antimicrobial resistance right and so we've been talking about how anti microbial parochial resistant organisms are are on the rise and if we don't do something soon none of the drugs we have will work and we'll be back to the nineteen hundreds when you know a pimple could kill you because there was no way to to get rid of it and so under Obama Obama he he put together basically a group that advises the Secretary of Health and Human Services on antimicrobial resistance in what should happen and so I spent maybe three years go. Oh into these meetings seem like there was one every two months and one of the things that they talk about is basically what I just explained to you. How companies do not want to invest in these so for you to get a company to to do a new drug? You have to pay them so you basically the the government has to take on the the the burden economically to get them to do it. Instead of US actually actually having government labs where we could do this ourselves but you know twenty five thirty years ago we shouldn't be doing that. The government should not be involved. It should only be the companies and this is what happens when the companies make their decisions. They don't care about the welfare of the American in public they care about their bottom line and I think also I think sometimes I I have to do a little bit more reading on it but I believe if you are on a board or if you already over Major Corporation a publicly traded corporation you are kind of tied hi to what you can do that as counter to the benefits of you shareholders because you are league. I think you are legally bound to do was in the interest of your shareholders and I think that kind of gets you know left out of the discussion. Discussion is not so much that they're just greedy grimy parasites that just want to take money. Sometimes it's like I think they're thinking about their own legal jeopardy. I cannot do that because it's clearly anti the benefit of my shareholders news and that is exactly why I think some of these things should be handled by the government exactly and you know I. I'm really firmly on that side having been sort of public sector my whole life. I'm with that uh-huh but now we're in the physician we are like Ou. Will the companies won't do it because it's bad for their bottom line. I guess everybody will just die of these infections but that's not really the answer right but the other thing I was thinking about just policy Elsia side too strict economics and incentives. It seems like the reason why some of these drugs are priced. The way they are is because they know that insurance companies are kind of buttressing the overall price because I don't think that's that's entirely it but as I told you it might take a billion dollars to bring a drug to market <hes> you've got to recoup that money somehow yes but I'm saying if you have a drug and you price it at three hundred dollars a dose and it's supposed to take every day. That's a very slim market your marketing to if people are paying out of pocket. I suppose you're not going to recoup. That might be the one who says to your mother or father well. Well you know the drug. That's GonNa keep you alive is really expensive so by coup through but at the same time you you're going to either either go broke or be. They'll die trying to make the money you loot. You're actually losing out people will start to go without at a at a certain point. It's not even about economics about how much I care about my parents. It's just I just don't have it. I ain't got it. You know what I mean and so I see more of like people breaking in other people's houses. Oh 'cause if I'm broke and my mom needs a drug. I got illegal shit I can do that's true. I told you I dabble in biochemistry. I would be a crack making meth. Make that's free it will actually people might start doing it in their own labs. Fuck it. I'll just build a lab trailer and start making whatever the treatment is well. Everybody can't do that but I got some pharmacists. That's what I'm saying. He might have a black market okay. That's just a little bit of a thought experiment but yet but back to Dr Seb Doctors Ibn Charlatan so that's why it was trending again on on twitter and it goes back again to what we talked about you know people having this mistrust of institutions and expertise and leaning on these conspiracy theories to kind of you know. I don't know I guess to make them feel feel more empowered. I guess that's the only thing I can think of because there's no actual proof is no documentation of what his actual treatment was that cured aids or that the actually cured aids but for some reason it's easy for a lot of people to believe yeah and I just I want my people to actually think critically I really do. You just can't believe everything somebody sent you. On the Internet a whole lot of my friends and family have stopped sending me crazy stuff because I will turn right back around and embarrass them in front of their friends on facebook so I keep I wind up getting followed a lot but the you know the sad part. Is that just not sitting to you yeah no. I understand that everybody else now you can't you can't do this in front of me fair fair. Maybe you can do it elsewhere. You not in front of me we know so but the thing is and I really mean this from my heart. You have to be smarter about things. You can't just by the first story that comes. I think no matter how good it feels to you. I don't think that's what it is. I don't think they're buying the first story that comes Cherry picking this particular story because it allows them to feel just as smart and not <unk> as vulnerable and helpless. You know what I mean. If I can take control of my health fight doing vegan dieting I feel empowered as opposed to you know I got you on that but I think that goes for the people who start the story. I think there are way more people down the line who just pass it on reading sounds right to me and keeps going. I think there are two different kinds of people. It's like the person who's like the guy who who is the chief Antibac- ser who basically talked about a study that had six people in it they already had autism and he linked it to the the M._R. Vaccine because he had money on this so he comes up with a crazy story. He has a very different reason for it. Then which is now thirty years later where we still have people go vaccines are going to kill my kid. Those are two different sets of motivation Asian and I think we have to deal with those separately. One guy is a criminal and he lost his license. He still peddling this bullshit all over the place and we have a president who was also an anti vaccine so it's back again but I think I think you know the other people who were now frightened to death that their kid is going to get measles but they didn't vaccinate yeah. That's a different person and I think we have to deal with them differently and I think there are so many people they just don't think they read it. It fits with their mindset that the government is trying to keep us down which is not wrong. You just can't buy everything and it's all neatly wrapped up so that must be the truth. No I got an investigator. Vested He. I'm trying to also think too like what is it about not to say like we're special but what is it about us that makes us more inoculated to that and I think part of it is when the actual answer there is so complicated that you can't really wrap your head around it but what you believe is simple. It's it's more persuasive when it's simple. That's why Democrats always lose two Republicans I think is because the the message of actual solutions more complicated in his more steps in his more long-term and then Republicans are always snappy mottos and one liners and I would argue that that is the fault of the voters and we have to teach them to be more discerning but I agree with you. I think you're probably right about that but I also think I don't know that we're more susceptible to this sort of thing. I think we just run in circles with more black people and we see it but you know anybody who comes charging into a pizza place that they are absolutely sure with a gun that Hillary's got child sex slaves in the basement where not more susceptible to conspiracy theories than anybody else we just don't usually come armed with it and then also the introducing you know other mental health issues just get mixed into the Gumbo. You know there's there's that as well people who may have paranoia or <hes> bipolar. Polar is a more other issues that just I dunno in like I said it's Kinda hard to put the genie back in the bottle. There's not really a solution once. A Charlatan gets a good run and starts getting a lot of eyeballs in a large audience. It's hard it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle because the science that would counter it is it's not something that can be digested in a quick two paragraphs well but you know I think the explanation may be able to. That's what we try to do here but I think a lot a lot of this. We we really need to push people with large platforms to push back on this nonsense. It may not work but at least we'll know we tried it you know and then but you know a a lot of people they will dismiss this. Oh Google now in the pocket of big farm now. They're they're saying that such and such blog that I read you know health. Nut News is in no viable news anymore there but that never was news but I can already see that's the argument is just like oh now. They got bombed Google so now Goule. I can't trust them anymore because they haven't flagged health nut news as viable new source economically here but so. Why are we doing this podcast again if we can't win? What are we doing here? You got to rage rage against the dying of the light. You can't just sit back up just saying rage rate tickets the dying of the light don't go silently into that dark night. That's what it is. Basically we hopefully we keep talking and then enough people you know here this and then they're inoculated against it when they encounter it online that that's kind of the best we can hope for because I think the people people who are really deep into it. One or two episodes of us isn't really going to change their mind but maybe if someone hears us first and then they read is like well. You know that's kind of like what I heard on that episode. Well let me go check out what C._D._C. says. Johns Hopkins says about that maybe and then and hopefully in the long run. It's a net positive yeah. You still got me feeling like I need to call it really up to say we I think we need to be we need to be realistic about what our impact is and how quickly our impact will yield fruit. I think I think art belonging share the show. We need help share the show. I think we're playing the long game where in the end game now. We've taken a lot of hits that we gotta hit back at Dino's. It's a long it's a long game but yeah okay so we just wanted to address that because it was in the news again and we didn't want to get too much traction because I was surprised at how quickly it was trending on twitter and I was like really Dr Savvy I kind of wanted to go and find that picture of the dude with the flaky scout and put it out there again. It's like our remember this this. Is this your show or not. We should make sure that's in the show as your kings. Is this your king. Is this your king but yeah disappointing but I don't know hopefully we change a few people's minds well. Here's the field good part of the show. Well no not so much now with this story what it was supposed to be feel good in a sense but lately it's been people getting knocked in the head by science because they ignore so in our last segment science always wins Hashtag science always wins. Can I talk about the fruit recall. Oh yeah yeah okay so Kato Foods Foods. This is Hot News as of April thirteenth is voluntarily recalling pre cut watermelon honeydew melon cantaloupe and fruit medley products that has one of those melons in it 'cause they're Salmonella Linux and is there some in there cutting or facilities. Is that what it is. They don't know yet. They spied pre cut right. Yes then I don't know if my guess would be it's the same as as it was last time. Cantaloupe has a incredibly surface area kinda grind and replace for bacteria to hide and people don't wash cantaloupes generally well you also if you buy something from the store. Do you usually usually wash it off. If it's all cut already you saw it in your mouth but anyway so those of you who live in Alabama Illinois Indiana Kentucky Michigan Minnesota Missouri Ohio in Wisconsin pretty much the whole Midwest. They're hurts twenty. Three people have been hospitalized already. Do you have a link to that because I can. We can put that on on the show twitter actually yeah I'll do it right now. We'll send that out and then we'll both re tweet that just to kind of get the word it out so <hes> yeah and it was whole foods and Kroger so yeah that so let's that's the major retailers are vegetables and fruit at home at that might be it is a little little juicy and messy in it takes an extra ten minutes but in the long run it seems worth that you probably don't have seminole on your knife at home. Most people do not know most people do not and if you do you should probably should him knives and your hands Jesus yeah pretty much washing cures. Almost everything prevents almost everything with soap we should we should throw that caveat with soap and hot water because maybe people aren't clear. Maybe we're not being clear. When we say wash your hands wash hands? We're not just talking about sprinkling water you some damn soap and in hot water. You'll have depends on it. Literally it really can I don't I I don't know and make sure you have like cook food and a raw food cutting board and also I wanted to tell you the story because it's kind of related so this week I didn't even know what to make of it. My brain kind of skipped in frozen like what is happening so the director of of our office. She thought it would be fun as a healthy treat to hand out to all of the staff a stalk of celery and carrot stick in a little ziplock block bag why it's a healthy treat as opposed to like you know some people handout like candy or like you know Mentzer you know sugary treats and so I guess she was trying to be healthy but the first thing I thought what is a who the fuck cut this and did they watch the Damn and because it wasn't like it wasn't like he was the groceries it was like she someone had cut a small stock of celery and a small carrot stick and put it in a little plastic baggy and labeled it delicious healthy treat from your director. I was like what the fuck is this and who cut it where they handle been so they sell little lunch box sized baby carrot Eric Things <hes> she should just bought those what about the celery stick that was clearly cut in someone's kitchen and handled to put it in the back of the bag had a little label on it was someone had to handle the celery and carrots they can put it in the back. Yes see I would've just rinsed it off in the sink in gone ahead and ate it but now here's the thing I'm sorry I did not know why do that. I don't why would I throw it away. You know why wouldn't somebody do that. Why don't you just bring in the tray that you can get at the grocery laid out in the break room and say hey everybody here's some here's a fork into Napkins and get? I don't know the rain was so confused. I'm like who it was better if you did nothing remember that saying it's better if you just said nothing better. If you just did nothing just don't even give me anything. It's like. I'm actually board voted by. I would prefer to come to work and not have vinnie delicious treats from my director. Thank you see she was trying and that's why I was like. Where was your mind at because that's a long I always call it? The the the lag time of stupid like yes you had a stupid idea but actually followed through and I know it took you a long time of stoop. It took you a long time to do it at no point to go you know what on the thirtieth carrot stick where you just like. Maybe maybe this isn't worth it. They should just do this instead of your time and money but what do I do. I'm sorry I feel bad. I feel bad for him. Yeah it's one thing to happen stupid epiphany but to not realize it in the midst of why why you're carrying it out. I don't know I feel like your brain should kick in say. Hey hold up there now. I'm sure the bubble over your head was just visible yeah. I was just like what the fuck is this. But of course I can have that on my face but that was Louis. My Bob was like what the fuck is this. I had to sit up by the entire day and right before I left and garbage should've taken it out with you. Put the garbage on the street I guess but they empty the trash every day so I figured it's not GonNa be there tomorrow anyway. So put yeah what for you. I'm sorry this is this is what we get in the public sector. We we can get some Goddamn. You know decent store bought treats for us. We get like celery sticks and someone's kitchen but yeah sorry about that. I really forgotten but yes okay yeah. We'll we'll put that on twitter and people you know will be hopefully mindful when they buy their pet melons or just buy a whole melon. They're cheap enough season. If you have to do it wash it off but oh the cut Mellon a lot of people rush wash it off. Just you know but actually matter of yourself you kind of makes it slimy. When you wash off Mellon? It's better than it's better than getting Salmonella but the other thing is if if you really like there are people who who gives you have carpal tunnel or you know you're disabled in some way and you can't cut up the stuff yourself. Try to buy the stuff that's cut in the store so there's no two or three days shipping from wherever it was that they centrally located cut it aw so at least try for the stuff that was cut in your local store and it will usually say on the package cut in the store or might have I think it has a different label on it to just has like the you know. The store printed label sometimes times but sometimes they in Safeway for sure they say cut cut right here in the store or something like that <hes> anchor we'll p._S._A.. Speaking of P._S._A.. Science Always Wins C._D._C. shows that creighton them the sounds like a superhero bill and Creighton overdose deaths so the plant substance is turned to buy some for pain relief leave anxiety control but has been banned in multiple states so here's a plant substance called CREIGHTON. Maybe emerging as a small but dangerous piece of the nation's ongoing drug crisis made from plant native native to Southeast Asia Freedom can be used as a stimulant in low doses while at higher doses it can act as a depressant and painkiller. It's awesome sold at corner stores smoke shops and online and has become increasingly popular in the U._S.. In recent years federal agencies considered creating a drug of concern and research on its effects is limited so basically like we talked about way way back on the episode. So to about how when you buy things like this like in corner stores that aren't f._D._A.. Or U._S._D._A. approved or screened. You really don't know what you're getting. Yes I think that is the biggest part of the problem that you don't know what you're getting. I mean this is worse than vitamins. I mean at least some vitamins have the U._S.. P Seal so if they say it's vitamin C. Vitamin Z.. Although if you take vitamin C. You should know it was vitamin C. Because you'll have Dayglo p but I think the their stock is taking a hit because people are are starting to get hip to the fact like I don't know what's in this pill. Yeah I mean people have been talking about that. But at least you know those are like if I go in and I buy a one a day. I'm reasonably sure that when one a day tells me is in this vitamin is in this vitamin right if you go to the smoke shop where people people are vaping. I mean it's the same as if you go and buy marijuana. You don't know what's right. You can hope you know you may have a dealer that you trust or whatever but you know when when you're buying stuff that is not uh-huh f._D._A.. Approved for anything. It's you're taking a risk. I mean you just literally are taking a risk lily unless you grow it yourself or you see where the person who sold it to you growing it. You don't know what it is. Even if you grow it yourself like I can. I'm I got a pretty green thumb but I don't know that I can grow cray Tom and somehow make it into a drug. That's not gonNA kill you and I'm a halfway decent scientists and also the dosage. How do you know for fact that this is a safe dosage and this is a lethal dose because there are no studies to tell you yeah? Among the fatal overdoses create them was listed as the cause of death of ninety one people including seven who tested positive for no other substance although researchers caution that the presence of additional substances cannot be ruled out so it may have been mixed with other things that killed the person. We don't have a test for rest basically and toxicology. I know for a fact they chase the drugs right Dayton so I mean there's a reason why if you're an athlete you start using different kinds of substances because then they learn how to test for the new thing so then you have to switch to something else and this and so it takes a while for talks labs to catch up so yes they see they have now have a test for Creighton but whatever the new drug is they probably have a test for well. Actually this is the scary part for the majority of deaths. The ultra potent opioid sentinel and its analogues were the most commonly co-occuring drugs listed as the caused death followed by heroin and been Zo Diet zipping Z- Zip N._S.. I don't even know what that is. Yes so that means that they're probably lacing the shit with these other things in small quantities narrowly. The person is probably taking both drugs. I hope that's actually a better case scenario than they're lacing the shit with other things well. If you're self medicating you probably self medicate with more than one thing you know so it could be that it's just they now have. They have a test for Craig Tom so now they're using it well. It sounds like it's not white established researcher said the number of deaths in which people tested positive for greater. Maybe underestimated due to differences in toxicology not testing so it doesn't sound like it's the same standard at all of these labs. Well no lab all there's no lab in the world where all the labs used the same test for anything. Okay right so you know your your lab may use a certain companies Japanese platform so you have to use the testicles with that platform and then you know the lab so at at at Howard maybe they use one platform but at Georgetown they might use something else so like for example Georgetown use a Siemens machine while Howard uses uses some other brand or whatever and so there's Beckmann possible yes so and that usually doesn't make a difference except for when these are new drugs and it takes a little while to work out the kinks of new new the drugs and people who do drugs of abuse. We'll tell you that you know every six months. There's a new there's a new drug. Wow so you just a quick little P._S._A.. Wanted to give you guys that it may always always seem like oh natural holistic plant based science always wins. There's things in here that are potentially lethal the tests have not done. We don't know for certain how it's going to impact you and what does institute should be taking it in even though it make her out of the ground yeah and you know there's a lot of things in the ground. You don't necessarily want in your body. Just because it's natural I mean I remember when everybody lost their shit. A few years ago. We one all natural. We don't want artificial dyes so then they were using Beatles deny things read. I don't WANNA eat beetles. Will you can't have it both ways you either want it natural. Do you remember that I do remember that and then I also remember long long long long long time ago that most a lot of honey has be parts in it already eating bees shut the fuck up like eat a little bug. It's fine but those natural people love them some honey. You're eating. You're eating bees so yes. If if it's died with Beatles that's fine you're eating and you're eating like <hes> bacteria in his yeah. Even says in the article last line is like more research is needed to define the human response to create him individuals who choose to use create them should be educated about its potential risk including the dangers of using it in combination with other substances service that whole other aspect of it where you're not a chemist. You don't know how this plant will respond onto whatever medication you'll be me taking or other foods. You may be eating in that could be dangerous so sure could be yep but yeah so I always win. Science always wins in the end and sometimes it means you know people die from their mistakes so you try to prevent that. It's better to be a little bit educated in you. Know stay alive and kicking have a drink and always works. We no almost for certain was going to happen if you drink alcohol that that pretty pretty safe and reliable. We also know what it looks like when you're overdosing so you know we we know how to respond to that. You just get just get get a bottle. Scotch is going to be okay twenty twenty almost here the nightmares almost over. Hopefully you don't sound confident. I'm not confident I'm not but is is there anyone that is not science. Is there anyone in the vast vast line of people who was running that you're kind of interested in or favorable towards. I'll be honest with you. This is far too early for me to fall in love with anybody Eddie. I need them to do the nine hundred million debates for I fall for anybody like at this point I will vote for any of them. Who get to the top and I you know against trump? Even if it's Bernie and I do not like Bernie I will vote for Bernie against trump. Yes I will also call up that yeah. There are so many people and I just I need to hear more from all. It's just too early. It's too early for me. Okay I will say that I I would also vote for whoever comes out on top but I do think there is some value and just saying how people are doing so far and so far I'm most intrigued by Elizabeth Warren so I'll be keeping an eye on her and see how how she handles managing her campaign. How convincing she is on the stump and can she actually put together coalitions and things like that so but I like her policy so far? That's what I'm looking at right now but yes whoever wins if she's out in Ohio Iowa and it's you know some other person. I'm that's my person. It doesn't really matter I mean I think she she has. She's very policy driven. I'm afraid that sexism is going to get her like got Hillary isn't that isn't that a shame that I almost shame that I'm not even pulling for Kamala Harris going. I don't want to watch the fuck ARY that would happen with the combination of black Indian and woman aw that is exactly my feeling and I'm ashamed yet but I've been living in this country for a long time. I know how this is going to go. That isn't that sad like I feel like she's imminently qualified. I like her as a candidate. I would love to see either at the top of take it or the second on the ticket but I'm like the fuck that would ensue. I don't even she's married to a guy. WHO's neither like it's just she's Wyoming? I feel I feel real bad about that because I she would be like Oh. I like her but I'm like. That's a lot happening in one a lot of stuff happening at one time and I'm afraid everybody who voted for trump. They did it because they hate it Obama so much I know how is this GonNa so she's going to have sexism racism and he was half white. Anna man got all that he's a half white man and still he got it so I'm like I like you. I like you Kamala Harris. I just don't I don't know about signing up for that. If you win you get my vote but at this point I just wanted to be beto or I know I fucked as the O._C.. Nuggets smacked in the face with racism the whole time I feel sick to my stomach that I almost don't want to vote. I want to vote for the white man so I don't have to deal with that ship. I feel it feels grows friends because we're here on on this. I'm just like I can yeah. We're not gonNA just going to be so horrible and that's why binds in the lead. I think a lot of people even black people are thinking like us just like at least by at least buydell do right by Diana's and maybe he'll pick like a black person second other ticket. 'cause you know I I like Uncle Joe. I'm from Pennsylvania. He's from Scranton. It's not that far away. I understand him. He's been in my life my whole life because he was in Wilmington and we're in the Philadelphia area like I'm fine with him but he's getting kind of old and he's run several times and it's like come on Joe. Just just don't don't I mean ideally what Joe Biden should be doing is probably secretary of state. We need like some steady. Hand you know at that agency once you know there's a Democrat in office. I don't see him. Yes I think he'd do an excellent job and I think we need that experienced -perienced hand you know ear of the President like imminently respected vice president to Secretary of state never happened before if you care about your country. You'll do whatever it is. I don't know if this ever happened before for true but I just again. We've never had trump before so I know it bothers me every day because I would like to see Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren on a ticket but I'm just like ain't no way that's that's what I want though but I I just know that I mean I would like Hooghly on that would be fine but you're in this climate of a Mexican American yeah. I just haven't heard enough from Hooghly into. Let's see whether I like them or not but I'm open to him so like if we had Kamala Hooghly on ticket don't Republicans would explode. I know like he's going to let all the Mexicans in just like it's going to that and that is what I don't. Oh my God it's just it's going to be a long eighteen months yeah and also I think we do ourselves a disservice if you vote for the white man just so. We don't have to talk about race for the next eighteen months but that looks like where we're headed added. Unfortunately I don't it's too early to early yeah yeah to be contained but yeah tell the people where they can find you again. You can always find me a cookie talks trash and for some the reason I have been particularly loquacious lately to catch a lot of fucker online to respond to so yeah and you can always find me <hes> at people and going around on twitter and you can always follow the show at not at you know molecules capital U._k.. W Molecules and I think that's another show in the bag. I know you've got places to go okay survive. I'll see you next time you can hold your liquor. Well like it's the jury is I don. I caught myself ruling. Will actually I think about better restrict yourself at three drinks. I need to get home. You got a long way to go back to the farm all right and just show by yourself will yeah if you're if you're hung over probably to say but hopefully we will see you next week in free of alcohol maybe possibly.

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"It's thursday september sixteenth. I'm getting resnick. And i'm travel anderson and this is what a day the only podcast guaranteed to get you through your fast for yom kippur. Yes his guests is basically like food for your brain so it's gonna make you less hungry. That's not my religious tradition. So i'm just going to have to believe you. It's been a long time since i've been to temple but i think that's still the rule on today's show we break down the revelations from the wall street journal's report on instagram plus the story about nikki manashian. Vaccines unfortunately keeps on giving yet. Do you ever want to hear the term ball gates stick around. I guess but first. Despite the grumbling by some over pandemic safety measures voters in california. Tuesday night appeared to send the message to governor avenue. Sim that his policies were the right way to go but no is not the only thing that was expressed tonight. I want to focus on what we said. Yes to as a statement we said yes to science we said yes to vaccines they said yes to ending this pandemic. Oh yes we did. That was newsom late. Tuesday night after easily beating back a recall effort by a margin as wide as the four zero. Five freeway gideon. It seems like how he handled the pandemic where he was. One of the most proactive governors early on and the state's current trajectory was a major factor in his victory. Yeah long gone. I guess is the memory of french laundry etc so forth So right as it stands over. Sixty percent of the state voted against the recall. According to some exit polling and more on the ground reporting the pandemic was the number one issue on voters minds. And if that's accurate it sends a pretty strong political message for democrats. Even those who are outside of california in terms of how they can and likely will continue to present their handling of the pandemic mandates etc to drive the point home in president. Biden's statement about the victory. He said in part quote this vote is a resounding win for the approach. That newsom and i share to beating the pandemic. Yes we all want to leave our homes for real. This time to that point biden was also focused on the issue of vaccine mandates yesterday. What was going on at the federal level. He was He met with the top executives of microsoft's disney kaiser permanente and others these are all companies that have at least voice support for the administration's mandate plan. Which has a reminder requires companies with one hundred or more employees to have everybody vaccinated or have employees do weekly testing if they don't get vaccinated is actually still being formally put together by the labor department so that is only a plan for now and the idea of this biden meeting with the executives was to demonstrate success in uptake among employees of these companies after the respective announcements were made and to also encourage other workplaces to pursue the same strategies the vaccine requirements work more companies or instituting. Them even at fox news require. And i'm not being facetious when i say that. But it's interesting that they've stepped forward and done that as well interesting is right at. This meeting happened. After a poll released from monmouth university found that about sixty percent of respondents said they support vaccination requirements for people like teachers federal employees healthcare workers etc. But there are still some questions about the specifics of the order coming from the executive branch that we are waiting to see and vaccine. Mandates are coming for even more people other than just private businesses and their employees. What's new there. Yes so on. Tuesday the us citizenship and immigration services said that new immigrants to the country needs to be fully vaccinated as of october first and then army officials put out a more extensive plan about what they're doing on tuesday. They said that all active duty units have to be vaccinated by december fifteenth. And those who refuse to do so without an exemption could actually end up being dismissed and even with all the encouragements and requirements. There is still some resistance in various sectors. Of course what's going on with those folks. Okay so for one. The la times has been reporting that over twenty six hundred lapd. Employees have indicated that they are going to try to get religious exemptions for new rules requiring vaccinations and then there are hundreds more doing so for medical reasons and that in total could be something. Like a quarter of the workforce believe it. I mean it is interesting that follows a federal lawsuit filed this past weekend by six. Lapd employees against the city saying that vaccine mass mandates violate rights to privacy and due process. These are folks who are quite familiar with violations of due process. So maybe it's to be believed. And as of tuesday. Something like fifty. Four percent of lapd staff have allegedly been at least partially vaccinated which is quite a bit below the city in states overall levels that also yesterday. Espn reported that the players association of the nba has not budged from its demand that players not be faced with a vaccine requirement. Something like eighty five percent are said to be back soon already though that also in that report was something else that job doubts me local requirements in places like san francisco in new york. Say that players for franchises that are based there will need to be vaccinated. Apparently we're just about a month away from the new season starting so we'll keep an eye on that and where we with. Vaccinations countrywide now. I mean we are speaking on a day. Where the latest mind. Boggling statistic is that one in five hundred americans have died from cova nineteen and according to the cdc we are still averaging well over twelve hundred deaths per day. Yeah mind. boggling is right in infuriating honestly so. Cdc data indicates that about fifty four percent of the us population is fully vaccinated at this point. Unfortunately it does seem that the uptick. Vaccinations we saw in august might have been fleeting for now at least because those rates appear to have slowed down. That's according to a bloomberg article that we can link to and this is all happening before tomorrow's meeting by the fda with an advisory board where officials are expected to vote on whether to approve a booster of the pfizer shot more on that and everything else soon but let's turn to a series of developing stories about facebook and instagram. Oh yes a few days ago. We mentioned a headline about a recent wall street journal. Report that said. The company gave almost six million high profile users protection from the company's content. Moderation rules folks like elizabeth warren candice owens brazilian soccer player neymar and obviously donald and younger donald. It seems like this plan was well intentioned at one point but as my granny always said the road to false stories about democrats eating babies and hell is paved with good intentions. She really did always but now we have even more information that basically says contrary to how zuckerberg has portrayed things publicly. facebook knows in quote acute detail that it's platforms are full of flaws that cause harm and often lacks the will or ability to address them. That checks out for me and where and how are we actually getting all these new details so all of the reporting on what i'm sharing today comes from the street journal. They have an ongoing series of articles. Podcast episodes that we can lead to our show. Notes called the facebook files. It's an investigative project in which they reviewed a host of internal facebook communications including research reports online employee discussions in drafts of presentations to senior management and interviewed dozens of current and former employees. It's not clear how the publication got access to the files but they say at least some of the documents they reviewed have been turned over to the securities and exchange commission and to congress by someone seeking federal whistleblower protection. What i've shared is just from part one of the series okay so that is quite a tease for everything else. Hit us with the newest revelations. So part two focuses on instagram which facebook owns for the past three years. The company has been conducting studies into how instagram affects. Its millions of young users. According to the those studies say the app is harmful for a sizeable chunk of them especially teen girls a notable quote from the internal documents that stood out to me. We make body image issues worse for one in three teen girls. And here's a stat from a study of us and uk teens conducted by facebook more than forty percent of instagram users. Who reported feeling quote unquote unattractive said the feeling began on the ab and about a quarter of the teens who reported feeling quote unquote. Not good enough said. The feeling also started on the app. Yeah i mean. That is a significant amount of stats. We have for this all pointing in the wrong direction. Geez that's awful the thing to keep in mind though and the reason why this is all interesting because kubrick has publicly downplayed the health effects of social media and especially facebook and instagram. But his only internal research says that some of the issues we all know to be true with social media are specific to instagram. Like an explorer page for example who's algorithm only shows me absurdly fit half naked men while stuffing my face full of cold stone creamery and jumping to put my jeans as a result of all this reporting senators richard blumenthal and marsha blackburn of the commerce committee announced yesterday an investigation into facebook's awareness of the harm that instagram can cause. Yeah they are trying to break the guinness book of world records for how many investigations they're facing at once. Okay then there is actually a part three of the journals report. What did that piece focus on that. Facebook did try at one point to make itself a healthier platform for users but instead it became an angrier place internal company documents. Show that a major shift. In facebook's news feed algorithm in twenty. Eighteen basically backfired. The goal was to boost what they call meaningful social interactions between friends and family but it ended up being a system that rewarded outrage sensationalism which publishers and political parties worldwide exploited the facebook employees. Alerting your managers to these concerns early on in the process of change was only made in the spring of twenty twenty and only specifically regarding civic and health content when employees made an appeal to zuckerberg to extend such changes. He said he didn't want to pursue it if it reduced user engagement because obviously that's how they keep the lights on over there now. I'm sure there will be more revelations as the wall street continues. Its reporting but that's the latest for now. It's thursday watt squad and today we've got a new segment called no context bad vibes new context bad vibes. I knew that's what it was going to be and it delivered. Take a listen to today's wild clip as we stand now there is absolutely no reported such side effect or adverse event of testicular in trinidad or softer. Hang anywhere else. None that we know of anywhere else and you will. He is very serious about what he is telling us. Okay nicki minaj. Yes okay so for for those who are fortunately initiated here. That was of course the health minister of trinidad and tobago holding a press conference yesterday to dismiss rumors about a set of swollen cousins friends balls. Yes resulting from a cova vaccine. Those rumors were spread by nicki massage. Who continues to defend her position on social media. She has not been vaccinated at uc anecdote about her cousin's friend. In trinidad to explain. why travel. What are your thoughts on this clip. All i know is that man is very tired of having to take his time. Okay to dispel this particular rumor. And i want to note. He let us know that. There is not one case of testicular swelling in the entire world. Not just treated at okay. So he's doing work for all of us. Yeah i i really do want to see the conversations that led to this moment of them saying like sorry. You've got to bite the bullet on this one and get up there and do a press conference nip this the bud say it was people. Stop ask you questions He certainly did not sound thrilled to be there. Dear he's like. I did not go to school for this when i thought i would be doing with my time but i still love it nonetheless. That was no context. Bad vibes. New context bad vibes. We'll be back after some ads. What today is brought to you by beta brand starting to get back into the new work routine and want to be comfortable but also look polished and professional. I know you do a right. Beta brand is your answer. Their dress pant yoga pants. Have the perfect balance of style. Polish and comfort made brands dress. 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MyPillow Presents Woodstock 21 w/Steven Monacelli

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MyPillow Presents Woodstock 21 w/Steven Monacelli

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All right here on fever dreams. we're gonna take you on plunges sometimes larry's and sometimes scary world of the american right as they continue to influence our politics even in the aftermath of the trump administration the energy of these conspiracy theorists descriptors and these influencers is still pushing mainstream political landscape closer and closer to eight breaking point. Okay well it's been a couple of few weeks now. Have you finally got an account. On jason miller's yetter i always out to get her account i was original guy. Og what's your dinner handle. Well i can't reveal that because in my daughter will be trolled. So we'll since your nowadays a habitual user on the social media network getter. Have you encountered any isis militants on the cellphone network yet yeah get her has been overrun by isis as a member of getter. I'm about to make my bayat to the islamic state. Basically what's happening as getter which longtime listeners may remember is the social media network twitter slash parlor knockoff created by trump advisor. Jason miller jeter has been overrun by adherence to the islamic state. They're saying things like in cha la all the mujahedeen will exploit getter. It's been overrun by isis propaganda. And when this was first reported in politico earlier this week and win. Click a reach common jason miller. He got a little bit saucy about about trump world crushing isis. And this isn't actually a problem. Well he says. The only isis members still alive are keyboard. Warriors hiding in caves and eating dirt. Cookies i don't know if dirt cookies is some kind of like operator slang but but i do think it's funny to say like the only guys still around our keyboard warriors and it's like well jason. I mean the fight is right now on the keyboard over your website. And you're losing you'd need some keyboard warrior jason. I do also kind of funny. That getter is supposed to be like no. This is supposed to be a safe space for a different kind of extremist. Like not those guys so yes get her has been overrun by isis and tried to root them out but someone unsuccessfully thus far ryan jason miller did bring up the point light after the story came out the other day. He kept tweeting out old stories. About how twitter had an isis problem from like a couple or a few years ago and he was i. I only saw him doing this on twitter. I did not check out his guitar account on this but that is kind of a hilarious. Move when someone says. Oh is your social media network being infected by islamist militants and then you just continue talking about like how much of a big problem is for twitter dot com. Yeah exactly i mean. I think there's little misdirection here for mold. Jason miller but i don't think this is the last we've heard from getter even if the site is currently being overrun with pictures of isis people. Taking trump hostage. I mean obviously that's not ideal for cantors image. I kind of get the deeper issue of of these social media networks launching and just having like zero moderation apparatus in place. You read these stories about facebook and twitter. Just having like warehouses full of people constantly doing moderation and these new sized get caught flat-footed. Okay well moving. On for a second will cross country in various places in cities in the united states. We've been seeing more kovic related restrictions being imposed by local and federal authorities obviously with the delta varian raging and the other issues that still going on with the pandemic you have been lurking on a lot of anti vaccine forums online. And can you give us a flavor of what the specificities of the response to this are. i mean obviously. These guys are not happy. That goes without saying it's sort of lurking by necessity because i was banned from kind of red. Its main vaccine. Forum are anti vaccine forum. I was sort of mixing it up with people a bit too much so as a result i've sort of been working at the of my own i've been hanging out a lot on these forums and so they censored you right exactly one guy was like my boss. He's bullying us into getting the vaccine. And i said sounds like there's a reason he's the boss and your employees so that about that but you gotta get ugly on the internet but anyway so people are kind of closing in. Why did you do this to yourself. I mean that's a larger topic right so there is this sense. Both of the united states and in europe that the more restrictions are being imposed on the unvaccinated. Obviously we just on new york. Put some in france in particular. They really been cracking down. And so i've been watching these people on these forums. Sort of deal with what it could start to mean to be unvaccinated. What struck me as interesting. Is that from for most of them. Not all of them but most of them and and you know we're already talking about a pretty hard core group of the unvaccinated if they're on this forum for most of them. It's pretty much like as soon as there's any inconvenience they're like. Oh well you know. I put up a good fight time to get my job. But what are some things you're seeing. I imagine it's getting rather to use a diplomatic term spicy. So funny is like so most attitude on these forums is like it's crazy out quickly escalates to like i will do a mass shooting right and then everyone's like up do do they actually say that and do they get. Yeah oh yeah. Oh i can't go to the grocery store you're going to see it on the news. I'm going to die on. A bed of brass is seemed to be like a gun cartridges. Do they get suspended or banned for that. Typically on these resume up voted man they get treated as heroes so anyways so all right but then something like well. My job is mandating. The vaccine or my university is and people are like well. You got to transfer schools and which is a hassle but not like the greatest hassle in history and the guys like I think i'll just give in. This is so what you're seeing are tons of. Bees wanna be evac extremists. Who the moment like push comes to shove like tiny little shove. They're just like yeah. Okay fuck it. We'll just just wrong comedians. We'll take the shot. Yeah until like. I mean there was one person who said you know. My job is going to require it. And i think all my industry is gonna require it so i'm just going to do it. And basically all people can say is like well. I would just say move to the woods and learn to grow your own food and maybe become sort of like an itinerant mountain man and there's early well no thanks. I think i'll just do this little lousy day or two so this is a recurring theme when people are like trying to confess to this online safe-space okay. I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is actually for me and my family. It's not worth it. Tell with it. We're getting the shots win. Those moments happened to all these different people is there like dissension by all of their online friends like cyber bullying them. Yeah you're whipping out. I mean they are right to an extent though baylor whipping out right. Exactly i mean they really are like it's sort of like you know if you've been play acting with your buddies and then suddenly all right it's time to go home guys and it's like hey we're having fun. I'm glad they're winning out. This is a good thing to win out on. Get the vaccine. Well a big part has been a big fallback. People has been. I'm going to get a commercial driver's license. I'm going to become a trucker but there was sort of a cautionary tale of the gentleman. Who said don't get a commercial driver's license. It's a pain in the neck. I don't like being a trucker and then he said you'll be across the country when the feds come to vaccinate your family. Whatever solution for everyone was he said as for me. I'm moving to africa to walk across the continent and learn to exist entirely on faith. You guys could maybe join me. People say during the spring semester of their sophomore year. As for me. I'm taking a gap year. I've sixty so with the people who talking about getting commercials driver's licenses and becoming truckers. Is that their first recourse to not being mandated to get the corona virus. Vaccine there. other things you can do. You don't have to be like being. A trucker is a hard job. They're easier dodges you could make. I do think there's a lot of kind of like watching repeats of that dirty jobs and being like which one of these could be me sort of in practice. And i think the larger import of this is that we're seeing basically a little shove goes a long way in terms of getting people vaccinated. There was a poll out yesterday. That said forty one percent of some of these vaccine hesitant. People said they'd get it if it was required to fly in a plane and so it has been interesting. Seeing this facades crumble in my internet hangouts so recording this on august third is being of argus a month where a bunch of pro-trump partisans and conspiracy theories have been claiming for months. We'll be or could very well be that. Trump is directly restored to the presidency and biden is thrown out his ass right. Now we're welcoming on the podcast. Our colleague daily beast reporter kelly who just popped the story about how these conspiracy theories are getting zanier just at the moment where it looks like. They're going to implode themselves because donald trump is not going to be back in office this month. Kelly welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. Can you tell us a little bit more about your reporting for a story headlined my pillow guy punts kind line for trump retaking power as august conspiracy theories get wackier who's conspiracy theories are getting wackier where they coming from. And what are they sure thing so even before by was inaugurated there were all these cunanan conspiracy theories saying this is the date. That trump will be reinstalled. These are the dates that the election will be overturned and they come out with a new one of these every couple months or so. They had to back to back ones that failed in march. They needed to have another date. They pushed to august. You know just a little breathing room. What was the reason that they stated or reasons that march ended up not worth. I'd trump just need more time to like redecorate mar-a-lago bedminster so these people aren't really focused on the reason for the failure. They're looking ahead. They glass half full. They're pivoting no they. The reason for their march predictions were that thought that there was an alternate inauguration day that was pegged to old laws before the phony government took over by vet clearly. Didn't pan out so they're not dwelling on it. The august state came about it was actually a lot of it was via our friend. Mike lindell the my pillow guy. Coup predicted august. Because he said that he wanted to get some lawsuits in front of the supreme court. He thought that would be rolling in july. And then by august they would have gone to their natural conclusion. And trump will be reinstated. So mike lindell. Who is a staunch trump ally and friend and also the joe and creator of my pillow or recurring character on the show and in our national consciousness yes and in our national consciousness. Of course he is one of the biggest drivers if not the biggest driver behind august august august. Can you tell our listeners. How much has been hedging on this for the past few months and he told the daily beast yesterday share so mike lindell has been promoting. August is like the probable probable timeline right. He's almost certainly the one who got it in trump's ear indirectly first and got to believe it right. Yeah and then in turn now. There's reporting that you and we'll have done that. Trump is going around telling folks that he thinks august is going to be the month for him so straight from the my pillow man to the shadow presidency. Mar-a-lago you've got this weird conspiracy theory that you want to dismiss but unfortunately people with power millions of fans are they follow it. So that's how the my pillow guy got. It started and recently. He has been hugging a lot of the august. Theory to this. cyber symposium. he's holding. That's going to reveal the true fraud behind the election. Bear in mind flees. he is already made. Three full length documentaries that about the election that have all been debunked. So i wouldn't hold your breath. I gotta talk about the cyber symposium. I mean this is for me the event of the year. Obviously there's a lot of talk about woodstock ninety nine if you like. This is kind of shaping up to be a similar event it is in what sioux falls south dakota this is gonna be mike lindell's inviting everybody. I mean it sounds like a like it's going to be a real crazy time. He's a friend of the pods. Actress over at salon says that according to the king of restful sleep will feature a mock election every two hours in which a hacker quote flips the votes on qualley quote. Cyber guy and quote goes into a soundproof room with headphones on and reappears moments later to decipher the meaning of packet capture. Now if that means anything to you you're not because it doesn't mean it's it's just craziness and it's gonna be mike lindell's inviting like every reporter. He talks to. It's going to be a great party. I think in possibly the end of american democracy. Kelly what do you think of the cyber symposium. oh man. it's so funny. A while ago. I wrote his mad at her possibly trying to cover a burning man in the cova era. And i'm not doing that. But i i think this is better right. This is like this is fire fast. No that sounds just absolutely insane. It started these prophetic events. That have been really churning this queue adjacent movement along when they've got very little to To go by their profit is gone and so they're just going out for successive woodstock events in big conferences. Were every couple hours. Somebody big has a website and calls for a myanmar style coup. Apparently mike lindell has bought out is supposedly every hotel room sioux fall so for this weekend sioux falls will be a my pillow company town. I mean it is going to be everywhere. I can't imagine. I think it is going to be like heightened levels of american delirium. I dunno sturgis for the election. fraud set. Maybe that's redundant and so. I think it's going to be a great experience on sad to visit. But i truly believe it will be some of the craziest news. We've seen this year. It sounds insane and it sounds worse than the to flatter conferences attended. Well that would certainly be something kelly. Additionally the ron watkins famously. The young man pegged as being q. The cuban cuban on. He's in this kind of stuff and he's getting in with lyndale. What's going on there. Oh yeah so ron. Watkins may or may not be cuba. He has been posting a lot of conspiracy theories contingent on mike. Lindell's cyber symposium saying look at all these things that are going to align in mid august we got the cyber symposium which is over multiple days. Saying something aligns with it. Let's let's take that with a grain of salt but also saying that there is an emergency broadcast system test on that day. And if you remember back in. I think two thousand eighteen will you wrote about. There is emergency broadcast system testing. Everyone thought thick trump was going to go on and announce the arrest of hillary clinton or whatever lo and behold didn't happen. But those two things are aligning again. And then just yesterday ron. Watkins was uploading what he said. Were on barnstorm new whistleblower. Papers from someone inside dominion immediately noted that those papers are publicly available online and it looks like somebody just printed them out and scan the back to telegram so ron is using his very few connected following. And just linking it right back up with dell. He'll i think you're underplaying your house serious. Ron made these leaks out. He said he literally gave the admiral akbar thing from where he's like. A lot of people died to get information you know and then it is as you said i mean it is just like you can go on the california secretaries as website and find these election machine manuals and he's just like like people really risk their lives to get this stuff out. There are whistle blower risked his life. He risked his family. And i'm like damn like. I don't even know if it has. Hp t. t. s. secure code the url. He got a raise the standards for whistle blower or a little. I think you said this was a publicly available. Yeah so that would be like one of us. Risking our lives like going through the jungle with machine-gun for a court transcript. That is correct. Except sometimes you have to pay for a court transcript. So it's hard okay. Yeah this is like going through the jungle with machine gun for like an arby's menu you know. I don't think the larger purpose here is going on with in terms of the date keeping getting moved. I mean it strikes me that you you kind of just need to keep the fires burning up until the mid terms and then you can kind of keep just bouncing down the road. I mean what do you think absolutely. There's this book let called. One prophecy fails and basically they studied this. Ufo cult and had a firm apocalypse day. Incite on that came pass. This was in the sixties. None of the cult members really left said. Oh you know. We just didn't believe hard enough or we misinterpreted the prophecy and some loan double down in their belief to avoid embarrassment. So having these missed dates doesn't actually necessarily spell failure for the movement. Some people will get frustrated and leave but a lot of people just stick around and it's concerning for two reasons it's concerning because as some researchers in the department of homeland security have noted. Sometimes you get really frustrated. People who will this is taking too long screw it. I'm going to force the end up gonna storm a government building. I'm going to make pipebombs whatever but it also does just keep people engaged enough to get mobilized around midterms or two so enough doubt in the election system that there is support for these new bills that erode voting rights vote the basic tenants of democracy so these conspiracy theories are funny but the outcome is like really genuinely quite graham fever dreams like all daily beast journalism exists because of the generous support of beasts inside members the people who pay to access daily beast reporting and who are quite frankly our favorite people on the face of the planet want to get in on all the action join now and get unlimited access to beats reporting plus access to members only podcast episodes events and much more hit to fever dreams dot the daily beast dot com today to see what you've been missing all right today on fever dreams were joined by reporter steven monicelli who's here to discuss one of the more nefarious and obviously fake bits of right-wing we'd call garbage floating around on the internet lately. Stephen monicelli is a freelance reporter in dallas. Who's written for both the dallas observer and our own daily beast. he's also the publisher at left-leaning literary magazine protein mag and notably. Stephen and i were both cute. Build together at the dallas cunard conference. Stephen joins us today to talk about some very shady astra chirping. That went around the right. Wing internet steven. Thanks for coming on the pod. Thanks for having me. Awesome now set up for our listeners. What this bid of this all starts with a flyer circulating in some of dallas's tony neighborhoods. And what did this wire set. So this supplier was extensively. Sent by a black lives matter. Organization based in dallas called dallas justice. Now the pitch was that they wanted these wealthy liberal parents in this ritzy enclave of highland park to not send their children to the ivy leagues or top tier colleges to save room for black shell. So the idea being that they have enough privilege as it is in that they don't need to solidify that by going to harvard but some of the people that receive these immediately smelled a rat and they thought this was something that no legitimate organization here in dallas. That's been involved with the black lives matter. Movement would decide to do and so they started poking around and let me just read a bit from this pledge they were asking people to do and now if anyone believes this is a real big that would be put out. I mean. i don't know what to tell you. Okay here's the pledge they wanna know these white parents. I understand that access. The top schools is a key component economic and social advancement. Therefore i commit the. My children will not apply to or attend any ivy league school or us news and world report fifty school so that businesses are that school is available for people of color. This strikes me as very much obviously the creation of a twitter twelve. What did you find as you started digging into so this organization. One in dallas that i had spoken to that's involved in the protest movement which i've covered extensively. They'd never heard of these people they'd never heard of this organization. No one knew of the names behind the organization that were associated with it on facebook or in press releases and so we started digging in. We noticed that they had backdated posts to february. Despite the site only having appeared itself in june some internet sluice found a bit of code in a wordpress template in a test site that shared the name with this website. That linked. Back to a republican. Pr firm based in salt lake city. They had made multiple test sites. According to internet certificate records for dallas justice. Now i mean. I gotta say the footprints here are not exactly are defined. I mean i think the thing we should establish while all this thing is going on always people in the right wing. Media are taking this ostensibly at face value. They're like the radical group now. Finally these wealthy liberals are going to get. What's coming to them. I mean where was this getting picked all. It made it all the way to fox news. Candice owens described it as the bigotry of low expectations. Talk about irony. I really though got picked up by the post millennial big surprise that was one of the big first boosts which is sort of like a garbage news site. They really just pumps all this kind of stuff out. That's correct. I think that's an accurate representation of it but it first came out in this little tiny paper. That's not really a paper. It's a digital new site called dallas city wire. This is an interesting website because it's a part of what's been described by new york times in the columbia journalism review as part of the pink slime network which basically is a mix of algorithm generated drunk content and intermixed with mostly right wing propaganda often pay for play sort of stuff. So this article. I appears on this website. That's linked back to a certain man named brian. Tim tone and just has lingered there ever since. There's been no new articles on that website since that article was first broken so it started this. Shane reaction that we trace back to i there. And then these pay for play press release news websites that are just junk city. Think what's interesting. What you're laying out here is how much of the right wing media ecosystem and particularly on the internet is all you need to do is have the barest glimmer of credibility so that the person repeating it can say well. I don't know it looked real to me. You can have these. Pr news wire sites where you can put up whatever you can have a website that sort of looked like the news website and then it goes from there. To someplace like tucker. Carlson show the most popular cable news. Show in the country and there's a big thing on twitter where these right wing characters will take something. That's obviously fake at the level of the classic. You know the woman who carved the be for obama in her cheek backwards or the guy who graffitied his own house with blacks rule. There's just no sense of commitment to like you're promoting you should know that it's real these guys often will screen out something and say is this real and put it out there and it's like no it's obviously not real anyway. That's of my rant about these guys. I mean i think that's exactly right. And furthermore i mean in terms of the black lives matter movement. It's been the target of this exact sort of designed misinformation or hoax sending whether it's the allegations that they bought luxury buses or the paid protester tropes or the idea that Blm donations went to democratic party. Candice owens herself pump this stuff out and then it just gets repeated in the echo chamber. There's no real basis for any of the claims of course but the veneer of legitimacy allows for it to be repeated as such and then very few of these organizations will ever issue a correction or ever issue the follow up of. Oh hey funny thing about these test sites that have the same damn james baldwin icon that the facebook page uses. Its sloppy work. It's really sloppy work here and regardless of you believe the company's denial that they had anything to do with this particular hoax. They've been linked to another network of dark money operations including several in wisconsin. One in portland. When in michigan i can go on so they accidentally revealed their whole back list of clients effectively. Through this misstep and you were flicking this earlier but in terms of how far this traveled. This wasn't just like a fringe. Bubble thing this bubbled up to the most watched show on fox news cable news on tucker carlson show on fox mark stein was the fill in host for tucker that day but he described this thing as quote one of those stories that would have been a rather dull satire a decade ago. But these days it is just standard operating procedure and quote and like you said earlier. These guys almost never correct this shit in the next broadcast with an oopsy daisy or a pending the article. Or anything like that. Because they're just ease no consequence for it whatsoever as much. They rail about like the fake news. Washington post new york times or whatever. The time has got something wrong on this level like an exact one to one in terms of substance it would be a humiliating like black i that would result corrections. Apologies to the reader here. They just move on. They almost always pretend like it. Never happened and it just festers. It never goes away. We're going to be hearing about this. Don't send your white kids to brown is brown in the ivy league. I don't know what's in the ivy league anyway. Probably until the day we die like this is just not getting out of the conservative bloodstream. At this point right. I think exactly the sort of thing that we've heard in the aftermath of it being exposed as a hoax. It's either some equivocation of all well. That's not definitive evidence that it's a hoax. I think it's ridiculous regardless of whether it's real or not or we hear some things like well. This is so believable that i'm not surprised i was fooled. But that's just someone telling on themselves in my view in terms of how far down this sort of junk diet of media they've gone to actually believe something like this with none of the people being quoted ever actually showing their face or being accessible to any other journalists other than this particular person who broke the story all the way back in october that this group existed and yet will refuse to confirm that they ever spoke to a real person. It's just such a strange saga that that links so many aspects of the unhealthy right wing media sphere together. I felt like charlie from always sunny when i was looking into this thing with the ray politicians on capitol hill or anywhere or in the republican party. Who were trying to act as the senator definitely retweeted tweeted this story. She actually went on to delete that tweet. Which i think is the progress of some kind. That's a move. In the right direction and surprisingly the federalist issued a correction although it was very at the bottom of the article has to go back and look at the tweets big figures were pushing this out of me and it made it all the way to the daily mail for christ sakes so it had an international implications and yet there are even british stories. That sort of echo. What happened here. In terms of one. I recall reading about manufactured outrage regarding hypothetical proposals to remove statues across england. Kind of echoing. The sort of thing that's happening with confederate statues in the united states. All of england's ugly shit. It's okay right removed all of them and the thing is though. Those proposals were fake. It was all ginned up john james. Yeah right wing outrage. So that's my point. It's this is a tried and true strategy. I don't think it's a surly new either an. Npr article recently quoted a great scholar on this to meco brown I may be saying that last name wrong. And if i am my apologies but basically comparing this to the anti civil rights playbook in the nineteen sixties just disinformation discredit and try in. Throw whatever you can until it sticks out movement like this but this incident. I think is is probably particularly pernicious in the sense that it's almost like digital black face for an organization to be created like this without any authenticity just for political point. It's shameful in reporting on this story for the dallas observer. All touches on how this is illustrative of these much larger networks beyond this one incident. I mean what do you think this tells us about. What's going on in general on the internet and particularly in these kind of right wing content factories. Well i think that there are deliberate strategies that people are considering and putting into play as demonstrated by the hiring of a republican pr firm. I think there's a whole playbook effectively you know. People like steve. Bannon have essentially promoted these sorts of tactics as ways to create disruption and. These things are all tied in to a network of interacting forces. So let's look at this specific example and drought a few of the others. The gender hoax story that gets put through the pr. Newswires gets picked up by the right wing. Web of junk sites gets amplified by the likes of fox news and the daily mail. And then whenever it's debunks guess what happened next a right wing youtube video that got spread on botnets describing the video as true while also strangely bringing up the issue of school vouchers and school choice. So there's obviously some set of forces with money at play. That are putting out disinformation in junk in a very highly organized fashion and we only catch it. Sometimes i don't want to make people conspiracy theorists or you know on a put foil on their heads and be paranoid all the time but these are sort of like active measures that are being deployed in the suburbs. Just for the sake of fuelling culture war right and it really does underscore house so much of the organizing principle behind so much of mainstream right-wing news media in this country is that you can't prove a negative even if they get it wrong. It's like well. You can't prove that this wasn't somehow actually happening. And this isn't just people covering their asses so why not writes. The damage is done. You know once it's out there and it stuck in people's heads in it's been put in front of millions of people. It's really hard to do. Any sort of corrective action cnn. I'd lived as open as well. What are some of your favorite right wing hoaxes. that have blown up. I think of the whole thing we had for two years running where like antifa was going to desecrate the grave at gettysburg people came guy accidentally shot himself personally. Not fatally that turned out to be the creation of a left-wing troll but plenty of right wing blogs were happy to seize on it and the other classic hoaxes. Jump out at you. Oh yeah i mean. It's not a great one in terms of the outcomes but probably my favorite that comes to mind is that people were disbelieving the reality of forest fires because of antifa and their alleged involvement in creating them to loot their homes. It's just tragic. What people were willing to believe on the internet while quite literally the fire department was saying. Stop listening to facebook and get the fuck out of your house. It's mind going crazy stuff. Okay my absolute favorite all-time great. It could in october twenty sixteen during the height of the general election. And we actually wrote about at the daily beast with headline drudge and limbaugh fall for twitter joke about paul store or destroying trump. Ballots this was something where randy g dub a hilarious left wing comedy count on. Twitter tweeted something defective. How he loves working. At at ohio post office help rig. The election for hillary clinton and tearing of ballot vote for donald trump. Clearly just a joke. About this voter fraud fiction and hysteria. Those going around on the right. So drudge picked it up rush. Limbaugh talked about it as if it was factual on his show and this became a thing for a while. To the point where government organs start having to put out actual statement saying this is not happening in this ohio post office and this was all about them falling for something. That was clearly a joke. If you click on his twitter account you can see that. He is is just this left-wing online comic and he was not working post office. He lives in california blame. Example of how low the bar is for so many of these guys in terms of how much they're going to buy it. This wasn't something is based on a phony press. Release or something. It was just a really funny joke okay. Well hey steven thank you so much. For coming on the podcast. Your article for the dallas observer is called flyers threatening white. Hp parents who send their kids to the ivy league rica fakeness. Where else can people find you. The you can find me on twitter at s. t. v. a. n. z. e. t. t. i. That stevens eddie. Sometimes in the daily beast as well do you have get recount. I do not not yet not yet. Okay well steve. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you all right. So we've been seeing a lot of reporting on the aftermath of the trump administration on the ways that donald trump tried to affect the election results. Who get the election overturn including recent new york times report that included the indelible. Line of trump saying you guys may not be following the internet. The way i do which. I think all of us ten find some use for in our everyday lives. We tried to explain the internet but twin. You've been doing some reporting on what was going on with the former presidents internet habits. What's going on there the line. You just referenced with something. Those jotted down in document during trump era doj by justice department official who was writing down. What trump was telling his justice department when they were on conference calls with him or different meetings and trying to tell him that we do not see this evidence of widespread pro biden fraud. That you're seeing. We don't have the authority to overturn the election. You're just asking us for things that we cannot do. So trump is like essentially badgering his own doj during this tumultuous presenter transition and among the things that he hounded them with according to these doj notes that were publicly released recently was that his dod officials weren't following internet the same way trump was so they weren't seeing all the quote unquote evidence that he was obviously. This is a big donald trump. Move and it has been for years for instance during the two thousand sixteen campaign and following it if he said or claim something that was absolutely bat shit or completely fabricated. He just say it was something he saw on the internet. Or i only know what i read online about it so out of pure morbid curiosity i wanted to figure out what trump net by quote unquote the internet when he was hounding his justice department. About this so we start calling up sources who worked very closely with trump in the white house during this presidential transition and during his anti-democratic sade and we found out that among the sources of information that trump was referring to specifically when he was telling his justice department about the internet was articles on gateway pundit will. Can you tell our listeners for a second about the gateway pundit because this is a website that you are intimately familiar with and have been for years. And i'm sure some of our listeners are as well yeah the gateway pundit and i have a pair of social relationship i love reading it but i often get in trouble. It's founder often ignores my emails. Jim hoff right jim hoff. Jim often self joined by his twin brother. Joe hof it's the gateway pundit is so is a blog that in traditional times you would hope would not be playing a role in a potential overthrow of american democracy. But this is the times we live in. So the gateway pundit is so named because it's based out of saint louis gateway arch and jim hav blogging from within the gateway arch while appealing is not the case. I actually do know that. That was the reason. I thought it was just like a gateway to like truth or something well because it's a gateway to right wing lunacy and that's really what it should be the gateway pundit is really like pretty crazy site that constantly post is but is enormously popular on the right and is just like sort of a fascinating glimpse. I mean it's a pretty interesting site. it's like very zany. In a way that a lot of other right wing sites are a little more controlled they get a lotta crazy stuff going on there. So trump you say he was getting very into the gateway pundit he was getting some juicy intel from the gateway pundit officials who were working in the trump administration at the time who we spoke to actually saw the then president during those few months carrying around printed out pages of the gateway pundit he was bringing these around the white house literally into the oval office in one instance that we documented a veteran senior official mentioned that trump actually handed them a page or two from that website. Does an article nonsensically alleging this massive pro biden election fraud and then president trump told this visual to find out more and to get on it. We need to do something about this. We need to get on it. And when this person looked at the page it was just the gateway pundit is this idiot lunacy that should just be relegated to chain e mails that. You're like deranged. Uncle might one day. Bcc you on places you will get a copy of print copy the gateway pundit handed out to you like a library lobby maybe or the white house exactly the most powerful office on the face of the planet a lot of national pride points on that one. And just to digress for a moment. Will you mentioned that. The gateway pundit has recently become obsessed with monkey ownership. Does this have anything to do with. Its role in attempts to overthrow democracy in america. Or is this entirely unrelated. Well this is a new thing. Like i said. I mean i'm probably the biggest fan of the gateway pundit. I love this i. And it's so weird it's weird it's writers neurosis our broadcasts onto the site in a way that you don't get from a lot of sites and so cassandra fairbanks writer for the gateway pundit has recently decided to adopt a monkey which you know whatever but as a result the gateway pundit has now become obsessed with monkey ownership and so this is kind of like the tiger king. I guess except for monkeys. And so like there's this one case that involves is very hot button monkey ownership case in missouri another gateway pundit connection there but normally right wing blogs. Don't really care about who's allowed to own primates but usually only do right so now the gateway pundit has become obsessed with this case it's making it into a right wing 'cause celeb- and the reason this comes up is because there's this lawyer named john pierce who people who read new yorkers cow. Rittenhouse story may remember. This is a guy who attaches himself to a lot of right wing cases and he's now become he's a king. He's an incredible character he's enormously or at least was as of two years ago. Nearly a million dollars in debt to the irs all these other debts he had a very tempestuous relationship with his ex wife but in so he keeps attaching himself to these cases most importantly he's super close. He represents moore january six defendants than anyone else despite having nearly no history as a criminal defense attorney. And so now you might say. Oh yikes january. Sixth pretty important case you might want to focus on that people potentially going away for decades. But he's also now become the monkey lawyer because of the gateway pundit inspired by the the attention this was getting and so you see the ways that the gateway pundit really successfully forefronts things in the right wing immagination to the extent that whether it's the monkey case or donald trump walking around with he's really kinda the hidden power behind the throne and this websites level of influence is both sad and perversely hilarious in a way because if you actually log onto and spend like five and a half seconds scrolling through you'll understand why it is one of the absolute dumbest corners of the internet not just right wing internet but basically any internet whatsoever just how wrenched did is in conspiracy theories and just making shit up. I remember that. During the obama years it was considered on par with like twitter egg accounts with seven followers. That were just spewing out nonsense and this was something that if you referenced it in story to sort of do like i don't know like a trend piece where the american right wing was going. You might get laughed at because it's like oh what. Why are you doing that instead of quoting. Someone like mitch. Mcconnell or paul ryan or john bainer but the level of influence that is gained over the years not just the trump era but before that and then particularly during donald trump's presidency it reached a point where it helped bring the country to the brink of rupturing the democratic order. And that's all because some guy like donald trump is just an extremely online old guy who reads the stuff seems to take it seriously at least and who binge watches. Tv all the time that entertains him or upsets him. Well you know. They said the new republican the clinton administration was the in flight magazine of air force. One i think the gateway pundit is the in house blog of mar-a-lago on that note. 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The Media Desperately Wants This Story to go Away (Ep 1073)

The Dan Bongino Show

48:51 min | 2 years ago

The Media Desperately Wants This Story to go Away (Ep 1073)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino on June. Oh all right gene-o show roadshow after the book launch by the way on a on a personal note. I know these roadshows always a little different right ordinary in the past. It did make a difference. We were in audio only podcast because I would travel with the equipment. That's right here in front of me and I would you outside of the camera create an audio file L. and send it over to Joe. I like video shows even when the background is a hotel room in New York City because I like to give you the visual so I forgive me for that I could would just send an audio file a youtube and I think it's important for the visuals and the videos and all that other stuff too for the youtube body and says well thank you. I mean it from the bottom of my heart my new book. I have a copy here. Are you. All I'm listening. I'm sorry at a loss for words here because you're just the greatest audience in this business. I don't mean that hyperbolic or like some kind of Kisii way. I mean it because it's true you just the best. You are so ferociously loyal to the show. Oh Paul and I thought that if the book cracked the top ten on Amazon it would be a big success. We were number two which when we woke up this morning after doing us some life liberty and Levin and the other stuff and watching it we were just I can't even tell you I'm just just so overwhelmed by your support and I love you guys and ladies to death and you mean the world to me so I wanna get emotional but thank you very much please. If you have an odor my book look yet. Check it out exonerated. We not sure if we get by the time of this recording if we'll be at number one on Amazon but there you go policy nice little graphic there so I appreciate that all right right. I've got a lot to get to today including some updates on and listen. I don't like beating stories to death but this is important. This whistle blower gate thing is turning into an morphing into a bunch of different things. I've got some new angles on this some new information and a connection to shockingly again the whole spy gate thing that unworthy the federalists doesn't cover that's amazing. I've gotTA Candice Owens Video. That's terrific. I've got another video of NBC MSNBC owning themselves and taking the complete opposite zip positions as if they haven't seen anything so don't go anywhere all right. Today's show brought to you by our buddies at net sweet sweet. If you don't know your numbers you don't Know Your Business Ladies and gentlemen. No you business with net sweet the problem growing businesses have that keeps them from knowing your numbers. Just they have a hodgepodge of business systems that you know they mix and match stuff in. It doesn't work together. 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Many of you already know but it's in the book then I talked about before but the book lays out in intricate detail that I don't believe a lot of people are talking about outside of couple reporters folks they had done this before this attack on on Donald Trump to attach him to Russians implicate him in a Russian collusion scandal. I want to be clear on this has been done and before. They tried this with John. McCain's campaign now hat tip my buddy. Two seven nine knowledge in my book was always a great source for me of information. We have to remember the implication that John McCain was colluding with the Russians to in the two thousand seven presidential campaign against Barack Obama. There are two key takeaways here number one ladies and gentlemen what you think about this who was running in the two thousand and seven campaign. They saying Oh Barack Obama he goes. I I don not up until the end at the end it was Barack Obama who won the Democrat nomination for President and subsequently the presidency where we already know that right eight point stipulated. Hillary Clinton was involved in that race up into the end that thought she was GonNa win. Do you think it's a coincidence that the same charges of Russian collusion leveled against John McCain with the exact same players in the movie script. The two thousand seven Glenn Simpson article appeared against John McCain when Hillary's team was around. They just rehash the same thing. I go after this extensively in the book. It's really important now. I'M GONNA move on quick but I just want to hammer one more point the difference here and what one of my sources reminded find me up to bring out and also in the book is the McCain team was warned. There was a defensive briefing given to John McCain's campaign after they had associated with some people that they thought were Russians. That could give them a problem. They were given a defensive briefing saying hey listen. You may want to get away with these. Get away from these guys. These guys could could be big trouble ladies and gentlemen that same defensive briefing by the way was never given was never given to the trump team ever why because they wanted to set up the trump team it's different when you read the book and you read the Chronology of events. I lay it out like a spy story. You're going to see that they were clearly from the start looking for these. Russians wins to make contact with the trump team in an effort to entrap them. They had tried this before. Glenn Simpson wrote this story in a two thousand seven Wall Street Journal Article Ladies and Gentlemen. There it is is how lobbyists help ex-soviets will Washington. He already wrote this. That's him and his wife it is it reads almost exactly like the dossier. They tried tried it against McCain. They tried it against trump. It was a movie script. They just inserted new actors in all right. I got so much stuff to get to today so it's going to be a stock show. I know everybody he loves that word. Stack of course Dan Bongino show inside humor for your loyal fans. Get the number two so back to whistle blower gate which is a big scam. There's no whistle blower. There is just a another basically government swamp rat deep state insider that states donald trump is leaking information out about him to a compliant a Sycophantic Doc you know boot-licking but kissing media. That's eager to take this president down now. I don't have any problems with this guy like this. Guy Jimgeraghty at national review really. I'm not doing this to be a jerk but I think he tweeted. I'm going to show you is tweet in a second. He sent out a tweet which was confusing. Let's just say I'm not taking a Potshot Jim. He's actually a nice guy but I think he's a little confused here. he sent out this tweet. I wanted a put up for you to check out because it's strange talking about using in foreign governments to investigate people so here's a tweet by Jim Gary talking about whistleblower gate remember where trump allegedly was on the phone with Ukrainians and asked them to investigate uh Joe Biden and the and one hundred Biden scandal over there so guarantees tweet reads this way if the public decides that trump pushing Ukraine to investigate the Biden's is fine and dandy some some future Democratic president will urge another country's government to investigate his potential. GOP rivals why again I like Jeb trying to be a jerk but that already happened it is absolutely crystal clear to anybody who's followed the whole spy drama that the Obama the administration and the DNC were getting information from foreign governments through their subordinate officers the FBI was getting information from steal who openly claimed credit to getting information from Russian sources I again. I'm not knocking. Maybe Jim is talking about something else but I just want to show you how the there is a sense in the media and even in the conservative space where they're not where I think they're not giving trump the benefit of the doubt here that no it's not acceptable but that's not what happened here. The difference is trump is not asking them to investigate. The investigations already happened. He's asking them to disclose the information about a potential the president of future in Joe Biden. That's potentially devastating stuff because what happened could be potentially criminal. That's different than going to the Russians and ask him to gin up a fake dossier don't he. He already happened all right now. I want to go to this. This is from the trump war room so the hat tip to them. They have some good stuff on twitter encouraging follow them. I WANNA play this quick video this is MSNBC. What does it Ari she or I don't even know his name but he's not. MSNBC EH amazingly again this is a total conspiracy theory like nut channel now that that just doesn't say and stuff but here's MSNBC owning themselves suggesting that trump trump has no evidence of by trying to interfere in a foreign governments matters when the video server out there for everyone to see check this out. President trump has repeatedly suggested without without evidence that Joe Biden used his VP position to pressure Ukraine to fire the country's top prosecutor Victor Shokhin all right who's Viktorsson pursued. I'm telling you not getting a billion dollars. I said you're not getting the billionaire. That'd be leaving here. I think it was what six hours I look. I leaving six hours and the prosecutors not fired. You're not getting the money or son of a bitch got fired. Sorry can a pall over there. It's GonNa give me the bat signal that the go roadshows what you saw the clip right. I can hear what's going on there. What are they talking about. Biden is on tape with talking about what a quid pro. Quo Quid pro quo something for something suggesting on tape we've all seen no one denies the authenticity authenticity of it it's clearly biden at the council foreign relations suggesting that the prosecutor investigating his son Hunter for his involvement with this natural gas company charisma and Ukraine under a deal that was shady at best potential pay for play operation that investigation the guy who was investigating it. Biden's on tape suggesting they're not getting money unless unless he shuts that investigation down and it's fired or unless he's far with that tapes has to be precise UNLIKE MSNBC folks. That's what they're accusing trump trump of. You understand how crazy this is. They're accusing trump of something. Biden is on tape actually doing and yet M- Belsey or whatever his name is. This is a positive melchior say on that those Bel Mel. She is on tape. I don't know his name sorry to be a jerk east trying to he's trying to insinuate that. Donald Donald Trump has has no evidence that Biden this and he's making a charge that trump is trying to influence U. Cratia politics. Do you understand like the Bat Guano crazy world world. We live in right now. Biden is on tape with an actual an actual quid pro quo demanding a prosecute investigators kid be fired and in exchange for US aid while while the Democrats were alleging trump wants that in fact investigated the potential expansion of a crime overseas with Biden and they're saying trump did the same thing although they don't have any the evidence but they're saying trump doesn't have any evidence ragent gentlemen. I'm telling you we live in Bizarro Superman by the way this hotel room is a little hot. The air conditioners issue was loud so we had to shut it down a little bit. Get a little st be right even for you. Even Paul is always always cold always no matter hi to what I put the AC on seventy three. I put it on sixty eight at night because I'm that you put on seventy three. She's dying she. She's always always always called. Freeze all right. I want to get to more on this because I've got some more devastating information to show you how far crazy the left has gone listen. We've got a few sponsors have special sponsor at the end to the first time I think you're I don't like a lot fits into a prior thing we did with the show so stay tuned. Oko Anyway. Hey today show also brought to you by lawshield. Hey you carry. Don't carry your firearm naked. I don't mean without how close of course you're not going to carry it without clothes on. I mean naked without protection. US lawshield I use them you use him sign for twelve months. Now get two months for hey. You've heard me talking about my membership. 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I don't WanNa keep hammering this ladies and gentlemen but we keep hearing about how trump engaged in this alleged quid pro quo when Biden's on tape actually doing it. That's that's the scandal we need to focus every bit of our energies on buying because that's the real scandal trump could talk over he wants with only a promise anything with the United States in violation of us why he can duck foreign policy. Oh he sees fit. He's the president United States Joe Biden. Right now is not obviously and we hope he isn't going to be either. Here's is it political two thousand seven seventeen showing you how bad this Ukrainian scandal really is this is by Kenneth Vogel and David Stern January eleven two thousand seventeen politico Ukrainian. Just Ladies Gentlemen just listened to the headline Ukrainian efforts to sabotage trump backfire. Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect talking about trump after quietly working to boost Clinton folks. I didn't manipulate that apologize. How did you mess with that now right. That's the headline. Thank you shaking her head. No that's the headline this has already been reported on by political a left leaning group of activists who have already acknowledged that Ukrainians tried to help Hillary Clinton get elected. This is a this is outside of. This is in the book by the way exonerated. Did I hate to keep plugging it but I put a lot of work into it. I appreciate you guys helped me out now. Ladies out there. They already do a two separate Ukrainian scandals involving the Democrats okay and I was telling a bunch of people this today. Don't get the Biden when we already know very simple. Biden fire the Guy Investigating my son or you're not getting the money you've heard that now. I've played it a few times on the show. There's there's another scandal ladies and gentlemen the one in this political pieces critical the Ukrainians key Ukrainian political figures we now know this from the record were giving information to DNC this former DNC official Alexandra Chalupa was sharing it with Michael Isikoff and some reporters about Paul Manafort in an effort to impact and destroy the trump campaign we know that it's detailed out in the book to a left the DNC to work work on this anti Paul manafort operation with Ukrainians who who gave by by the way he's Ukrainians who gave the United States government fake information about a blackledge or a series of payments to Paul Manafort that nobody can verify the authenticity of the alleged cash payments. This is important stuff. That is a huge enormous scandal bill with Ukrainians. We know that trump needs to keep the heat on them. Now from the politico piece folks this them report. This is not me again. I didn't write this article a left leaning out that wrote this in two thousand seventeen quote Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine trump publicly questioning his fitness for office they they also disseminated documents implicating top trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter only to back away after the election and they listen to this listen and they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on trump and his advisors. A political investigation found folks. What does that sound like to you it. It sounds to me like collusion again when your friends keep bringing up this collusion with Ukrainians and trump. It's already been reported by politico that the Democrats did this. Maybe maybe we'll crack when they are one more final angle on this so just to set up where we've been. We know about the Biden scandal. Now we know Biden is on tape with the quid pro quo. They're alleging trump. Put quid pro. Quo Remember that quote Tucker Carlson Virtue is the sin right virtue signaling but they're doing. They're accusing trump of the exact exact same thing they did. The second takeaway from this the Ukrainians Unquestionably Helped Hillary Clinton tried to get elected colluded with the Clinton team. There's no doubt about that. There's no dispute amongst rational people people okay. We need to look into this media answers and IT'S TIME TO DOUBLE O. GonNa say something. I don't want to say try to keep it family for signing doubled down. Cut The crap with this this giving these people a break all the time now from the federalist now the piece the show notes today definitely worth your time Sean Davis piece of the federalist. This is worth your time here okay. This is Sean. Davis federalists like Russian collusion Ukraine his theory pure projection by the media and the Democrats. It's now. There's an interesting takeaway in this federalist piece. I told you in the beginning of the show that there's of course there's always a connection angle to spy gate every single time because these people were devious. Yes they all know each other. These law communities these insiders you swamp rats. It's all one big vote. That's what they feed off each other in a in a symbiotic AK- maybe I can argue parasitic Kinda way but they love it. They all know each other so remember. There was a law firm fusion. GPS that was hired but there's a law affirm- outside she's me it was a law firm that hired fusion. GPS let me be precise. What's interesting. Is there appears to be a law firm at the center owner of all this. Let's go to the piece by Sean. Davis explains it pretty well in in the federal again. This is up in the show notes. CHECK IT OUT BUNGEE DOT COM to answer sir all of those questions. The answer is a resounding yes despite being case talking about hundred near despite being kicked out of the navy for cocaine abuse and having no demonstrable Business Acumen Acumen Hunter Biden nonetheless twenty fourteen landed a fifty thousand dollar per month Gig on the board of Barack Obama or Ukrainian oil and gas. Ask concern coincidentally the law firm that helped the range the Senate. You're Bo Schiller previously hired. Oh fusion. GPS APS isn't that cute to shady opposition research firm retained by the Clinton campaign the Democratic National Committee to Concoct the Russian collusion hoax to run interference appearance for theranos also the infamous fake blood testing company whose founder was charged with wire fraud. Isn't that fascinating how both Schiller was involved in all of this ladies and gentlemen. They all know each other again. It's one big circle where there all patting each other on the back and doing other stuff do these maniacs. They're all involved with each other. They all know each other. This is what the one big Kabbalah Idiots. They don't even cover their tracks. Well good piece definitely definitely worth your time all right what else we got coming up next okay. Sheila jackson-lee. That's next I'll get to that famous and amusing the famous very loosely congresswoman Sheila jackson-lee talking about guns. There's a point that this is not just to mock There's a strategic point to it. I promise promise you get to that. I've got reverse identity politics to an amazing trump appearance of let me just knock these atoms. Sorry because it's important these companies want to be here and I really appreciate them. SPONSORING ASPIRIN SHOW THEY WANNA talk to you. I've got a special at the end to stay tuned all right ladies and Gentlemen Chamonix Xiaomi. Only one week left for the summer inventory clearance sale from shamanee right now when you order genucell new cell the joy line treatment we use at my house. 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US Dan thirty at checkout all right This is a good one Paul. How do you rank this on a one to ten scale of of of of a doping with the speed like a this is about an eight point five when you say that about right. She's like the Dave Norrie Barstool when he does the pizza things. You don't want to go to high right and this is about an eight point five. Maybe maybe a little high but she would. Here's a video Sheila jackson-lee talking about how her problem with the fifteen platform and I want you to pay particularly close attention when she talks about the weight of the firearm the era fifteen rifle apparently they she handled one recently sh okay sure and she talks about the caliber rounds and how big and scary dangerous check this out this great my building builder of introducing dealing with with caliber weapon. I've held. Ar Fifteen in my hand had it it is as heavy as ten bucks that you might be moving and the bullet that utilize a fifty caliber these kinds of bullets needs to be lifers and do not need to be on the street hat tip by the way Jim Hansen and Jason Howard than I found that on their twitter feeds I go through twitter sometimes so some of the best content. That's out there twitter. Just Click. I'd videos you can see some of the greatest stuff ever folks. Sheila jackson-lee obviously has no idea what she's talking about. Any fifteen doesn't way the equivalent of ten boxes. I don't know what Ar fifteen she's dealing with. is it made out of. Have you ever have any of you ever handled gold. No I mean real gold. I I had a friend the secret service agent friend of Mine and his dad used to be security represented for the Federal Reserve and they took us down Federal Reserve one. This is true story and they make you wear like these magnesium easiest shoes or something because gold is so dense kinda like lead. I believe it's even denser. I could be wrong a check. The periodic table on that but gold is so dense that your brain has a hard time processing how heavy that that piece of mass is. I'm serious. It's like it's heavy. It's so dense that when you see it like this you go that weighs five six pounds and always weighs like twenty bucks. Moore and people drop it in a crush their toes so you have to wear these booties so you don't crush your toes because that's true story. I'm not making it up. If you've ever been to Federal Reserve you've probably seen it. You know they put the booties ladies on. Sheila jackson-lee apparently thinks they are fifteen are made of lead or gold or whatever I don't know what she thinks they're made of but but but I don't know fifteen she's handling that has the ways the equipment equipment of ten moving boxes. I mean this is utter. Complete Ridiculous Insanity notice the caliber she said to fifteen handles two to three and five five six. I'm some not all you can you can rotate back and forth on most rifles right they do not and they are fifteen on handled fifty caliber rounds. There's not an I don't know what she's talking about. here's the thing though folks we laugh at this and we mocked this stuff and we should and I know a lot of us says as as moral and ethical people you have a hard time mocking people people but folks. I if you're going to go out and make a fool out of yourself by suggesting people's firearms should be confiscated or innocent people have done nothing wrong should somehow how be subjected to legal obstacles before they can protect themselves with a firearm and their families like Sheila jackson-lee who proposes and supports all this stuff. Don't you think it's just a simple ask to ask that. You actually know what the heck. You're talking about before. You suggest that obstacles should be put in my way before I acquire that item if you don't know anything thing about the item and you're obviously lying. It's not way with ten boxes way. It doesn't shoot fifty caliber Ron's. You just don't know what you're talking about. It is important for us to use this stuff stuff and the highlight the pure utter stupidity of it to show you that we stand on principle knowledge and facts while the leftist makes this stuff up. They have no knowledge base to work on whatsoever about about what they even want to ban. A fifty caliber round is immensely larger than a two to three or a five five six. She just doesn't know what she's talking about again. I don't like to waste your time with silliness. I just like to highlight for others who will watching this. Show how this debate is fielded one side conservatives who understand understand the constitution and the need for big our God given rights in the real right to self protection and people on the other side who have no idea what they're talking about out speaking of which have you seen this. This is absolutely classic. This is is one of the best videos I've seen in a long time. Now disclosure not to name drop but don't do name dropping don't care for those of you know me just don't care but I know candace Owen. She's she's very nice canvas and I go back to when she had the red pill black twitter feed and it was terrific. She do these videos. Were just amazing. Well can't this takes exactly exactly zero from people to does and I love that about Kansas because I feel the same way and you know having said that some people don't like candice or don't like me for that I too because they think we should constantly sit back and take a bunch of stuff from people because you know good conservatives. We should sit back and take it. That's what we do now. I'm not interested in that. I'm I'm interested in the fight. I'm interested in taking it to these people big time every single day and making them out to be the fools that they really. Are you want to attack US game. On new rules we win you lose and the story full stop period. Here's Kansas saw was up on Capitol Hill and a hearing about white supremacy a PhD who's up there testifying who clearly hates Kansas owns candace makes a comment about something being hilarious that they're trying to impugn her integra. She's not talking about that white supremacy terrorism being hilarious the woman the PhD trying to attack her up at this capitol. Hill hearing makes big big league bakes a huge mistake going after canvas attacking her here watch Kansas this by the way hat tip prager you at prager. US twitter they're awesome. They put this little thing together here. This is candace you'll hear the PhD first and then you'll see canvas at the end. It's about bear with me. It's a little more than a minute or herself. Canvas just lighting this woman on fire. This is how you own the LIBS. Check this out. I just have to say that I object strenuously to your use of the worst I who were hilarious to me. This feels a lot like your reaction to being named in one of these manifestos now you're of course not responsible support for the words of somebody writing that document but I do think that laughing at it is a real problem because these are real families that are impacted by the silence since and I think our efforts towards talking about this have to start from a place of mutual respect mutual respect mutual respect you you just tried to do live what the media does all the time to Republicans to our president into conservatives which you tried to manipulate what I said to fit your narrative and the audacity the city of you to bring up the Christ's church shooting manifesto and make it seem as if I laughed at people that were slaughtered by a homicidal media maniac is in my opinion absolutely despicable and I think that we should be above that to try to assign reality or any meaning to a homicide homicide maniac in writing a manifesto which by the way let the record show also seeded Spyro the dragon the child's cartoon as a source of inspiration he also cited Nelson Mandela Adela as a source of information I don't I don't think that Nelson Mandela has inspired mosque shootings. You can correct me. If you think I'm wrong. You would rather assign meaning to a homicidal Maniac Ania then to actually address that I said to the things that I said today that are actually harming black America number one father absence number to the education system and the illiteracy rate illegal immigration ranks high abortion ranks high white supremacy and white nationalism. If I had to make a list again of one hundred things would not be the on it. This hearing in my opinion is a farce and it is ironic that you're sitting here and you're having three testify and tell you what their expertise are due. I know my expertise lar- blackened America. I've been black in America my whole life all thirty years and I can tell you that you guys have done the exact same thing every four years ahead of an election cycle and it needs to stop folks folks. This is how it's done all wine glasses at the end by the way I was home. I put Oh my oh glasses on my own own. The Lips glasses folks. This is how it's done you know as I've said repeatedly there is. I may be careful here because I want to I want to why what are you laughing at the I know him on the street. Oh you got the on the lips thing. Oh thank you. I didn't know you had that in a road show. I WANNA be careful how he phrases listen. I'm a sinner I get it. I get a lot of emails. Stop saying you were sitter crises. I know always saves up but I am. I'm a sinner. I try my best but you know I feel like I was a religion matters. Ma'am I'm preaching to you. You all do your own thing. That's fine if freedom of religion in this country and I love that and we should do the right thing and we should be morally and ethically upstanding individuals all the time. The problem is morals and ethics. Ethics is a gray area when you're on a battlefield. I use this analogy a battlefield morality all the time things it may have mattered in more peaceful non on end of times. MANICHEAN terms don't necessarily matter in trench warfare when you're sitting there next to a guy in battle and he's you know whatever he sends you. You know nasty tweets to his girlfriend on the weekends. That may bother you when you're at home and he's your friend. You don't send that's gross. You know what when he sending hot lead down range if he's a good soldier all of a sudden you're like all right. I need this guy with me. I brought this up about trump often. I think this is where the left and the anti-trump Brigade misinterprets where we are right now and why the people like Kansas Owens are necessary people like I think my show too and I don't mean to put us in the same box but because I get sometimes I get negative feedback back from the old school bow-tie-wearing Republicans who are like Dad. You know you're a little grasp on the air. Maybe took a little bit of a calmer cooler report. I'm not interested Ladies and gentlemen the other side is looking to crush US politically right now. They are looking to impugn. People's character destroy their lives. Look what they're doing to Brad Kavanagh Break Cabanillas knows a choirboy. Two guys have boy scout. The guy's been nothing but a decent good man is entire life and they not only want to. They don't really want to hurt him. They want to destroy him. They WANNA reckon. They WanNa make sure he can never work that. He did for the rest of his life. That requires us to fight back that requires us to fight back on twitter that requires us to fight back on facebook that requires us to go out there and make these videos and do these things and not to take any crap already got from these leftists who want to mess around with US Ladies and gentlemen. This is the time and when I say fight back by the way I hope you understand understand. I'm talking about rhetorically the violence for the left. That's their thing the anti FA crowd the Anti First Amendment Group. That's their thing but I'm talking about rhetorically this whole idea. Yeah you know I get nice feedback from you about Fox appearances with Chris Han and her although I'm not taking any crap anymore I'm sorry you say something stupid on the clinical you out about it and two story. I'm I'm not gonNA sit there and try to smoke the peace pipe with you because I'm not interested. People like candice. Owens are necessary. When this stuff happens that is the way you fight fight back. You don't sit there and try to play Patty cake with these people that lady tried to attach her to a white supremacist label and you see what Kansas Oh and said she was trying to attach it this manifesto this killer robot candice into someone's his name came up so did what she say Dragon Guy. She's like Kansas is also mentioned like a dragon cartoon clearly. The Guy was psychotic. They I will not give you a pass folks. This is a different time. We need to fight back if you subscribe to the Old Republican bow-tie-wearing. Oh we need to engage in civil discourse not says yeah. This is time for that when the left wants to be civil. I am more than happy to go there. I welcome it I cannot wait for the day when we can start to engage in a civil conversation again that day is now and I don't know who told you otherwise but they lied to you because it's not true that day is not today. The people want to do serious damage to our political prospects our country and our constitutional republic they have spied on the president. They bankrupted our country. They have gone after innocent people. They have targeted conservative creative groups. These are not rational people anymore. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you fight back rhetorically the right way all right final sponsor today this is important. You know I've quite often I've. 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I read this and I thought even if it's quick like I just want to tell you about what happened especially if you WANNA companies may not be a bad idea for you to do. How do we keep hackers out right. This is the big thing title of the article is French dummies foil. Russian hackers deceptive tactics can counter online criminals by Brian Finch September twenty second twenty nineteen so the big questions ban ever since you know spy gate the hacking of the emails all the stuff. How are we keep the hackers out folks. You can't keep the hackers out all right. Good accuracy are going to get in eventually. Get an everywhere. They hacked the Government Accountability Office my records or the opium ember records my secret service records were out there. I got an email from the office of Personnel Management. Hey Body by the way all your stuff. The Chinese have agreed. Okay thank you so what if you don't try to keep him out. What if you let him in. So what did the French do. I just heard this by reading his pete. Democracy macron campaign pain annual monochrome when they were running what they did was they created a separate set of email addresses fake documents documents about his campaign and I guess they lodged it on their server server assuming they would eventually be hacked. They probably labeled it. Something like hackers. Come look here. This is sensitive stomach. I mean I'm joking but something that would incentivize a hacker to open that file and try to Stella. What was the problem not for the macron campaign but for the hackers it it wasn't real it was all BS. It was all artificial fake news stuff. They made up so when the hackers got an broadcast stuff that macron campaign without egg is Good Luck Nice job and get in but unfortunately that stuff's all fake now. I say that because if you're running for office you're one of these Congress of Representatives state senators whatever the US US Senate running. I've run a few times myself. It may not be a bad idea for you to do something like that yourself and there's a twofold benefit to this think about it and it's in the piece by the way if you choose to read at the Wall Street Street Journal the two fold the takeaway was this now but what it makes the hackers look like idiots because documents are obviously false. They put up a bunch of fake documents that were so ridiculous us that when the hackers who were so proud of themselves Russian hackers outed them they look like fools themselves because they were publishing essentially fake manifestos about like Mickey Mouse and all of a sudden people read it like wow what a bunch of dope like. They didn't know this stuff was fake. So that's benefit number one. He made the hackers look like fools but secondly the secondary benefit of this. Is that if they get you real all stuff. Nobody knows what's real awards fakes who everybody just discounts what the hackers put out there anyway and I thought to myself this is this is what it was brilliant and Bro Really Joe for this out. Drop as brick this brilliant the greatest idea you hear that by the way you hear that sound we were up in. New York in the UN's is going on is goes on all night the cops I remember I used to do this for a living. This is what you get. The police sirens all night. How bad did you sleep last night. Paul Battery my Gosh folks this between like I can't even go into it. I love this hotel the greatest but we're in the the middle of Times Square and it is just loud all right last one so. Did you see this prime minister mody in India but the they had a it was a couple of days ago. Forgive me for not getting to it right away but you know the shows have been pretty loaded. It's been a shockingly busy. Newsweek whistle blower gate and everything else going on. It's really important so the Prime Minister of India mody he was out in Texas for this joint indian-american kind of coalition event they do. It's an important event and ladies and gentlemen. I just wanted to play the end. I don't WanNA play a lot but I've got to tell you. I watched it on the plane. You Watch the two right. You loved it. It was great wasn't it. The Prime Minister of India gave one of the most rousing speeches about president trump. I've heard in a long time I meet it. I mean I eight. I've heard a lot of these again haven't done this in a prior line of work. We protect foreign heads of state. I was actually shocked at how a few sieve is praised. The president trump was and he said at the end this powerful powerful line mody about introducing you to my family and it was fifty thousand Indian Americans Taxes Ladies and gentlemen. This is an important voting block of American patriots are indian-american France. There are four point four million Indian Americans in the United States. We are not and have never been and I refuse to participate any conversation about people being anti immigrant. We're not anti immigrant anti illegal immigration you. WanNa come to the United States being a patriotic American citizen who produces value for this country in in your family. You will always be welcome here. That has never been don't give a crap. The Democrats are the party of open borders. We don't care about any of that stuff. That's not us there. Indian American friends have always it's always added value to the United States value. This country's four point four million. I want you at the end of this. I'M GONNA play about thirty seconds of the end. As mody the Prime Minister of India Introducing Trump Rob Ladies Gentlemen the applause at the end of these fifty. This is not a partisan event. It's not a trump rally. This was a bipartisan at the applause at the end. It doesn't come through as much. The clip was deafening. Check this out and then demand I present my my friends are are good American president. Mr Mister Donut folks. This is important this important stuff this is not. This is not a small thing that happened there. This was fifty thousand Indian Americans in a nonpartisan by or should say bipartisan event. There were Republicans Democrats. They're hearing from a foreign leader the importance of doing business with a president like Donald Trump. This is huge. You have to build coalitions to win. You have to cobble together a coalition of people to win an election right now. We have to just be candid and honest about where we stand right. Donald Trump performs very well amongst middle class working class white voters. I don't like categorizing people but that's a leftist thing. Unfortunately the rest of the world does it and because the worst the rest of the world the liberals and everyone talk about people like that and silo them like that and we've covered that the reason they do that is for a very simple reason the left wants you categorize in a box they choose black. Americans White Americans Hispanic Americans indian-americans for one reason one reason only they don't like the idea of collective American spirit because then everybody thinks in terms of values in God given rights and they don't want that they want to sick people against each other black versus White Hispanic Panik versus black because what do they do the Democrats come in and fill that void that by the pain of the scar of of people against each other in one country and the Democrats. Let's say this group wherever it may be. If it's black versus white look we're going to protect you when they come for you and your education and your money and Donald Trump comes as for your rights you either so they're taking our rights away and the Democrats do this whole time. They pretend to be the savior for people. It's nonsense. We shouldn't be doing any that. We shouldn't be dividing carving up America. These are these are brothers. These are sisters of ours. They these are American patriots in this country rousing round of applause Donald Trump. You have to cobble together a coalition. If we can break down these these racial and nonsensical lines Democrats have set up between us and these individual silos of people they sick against each other and we can get people people to think in terms of of values and not in terms of the Melanin content to your skin what country you were born or what religion you practice and we can get them to think about the things things that really matter school choice education policy for kids health care healthcare options patient control the health care of the any the taxes economic growth low taxes pro business environment. We can get people to think about those things mody. The Prime Minister and trump wartime simonis not perfect mode. He's got some issues too but he did a fantastic fantastic job and he serves a round of applause. If we can get people to think in terms of collective values this is the one time collectivism works when it comes to values if we all believe even prosperity economic growth educational opportunity for off and we don't start thinking in terms of well. What box do I fit in well. I happen to be Italian American while Italian American who supports us as well as the Democrats they support us against the Irish American Center Company. Get no one's coming to get you. This is all leftist conspiracy theory nonsense. You are always welcome here. The Republican Party will always welcome you here. Black Americans Hispanic Americans Indian Americans. This is the week hair about your prosperity but your kids about your school choice about your healthcare options your business that matters to us that matters deeply and I can't say this enough personally. I'm a conservative with some libertarian Syrian leanings. I don't care whatever box you WANNA put me. I'm not interested I just. I know what I believe in you matter to me on this show. I mean it. I don't care air what religion you practice with. The color of your skin is where you were born or anything. If you believe in big our God given rights if you believe this country should respect act in value individual liberty. You are welcome here always always former. I don't care if you've been in jail. You're a former Febru- repented. You're you're all welcome here. Everybody's well that the Republican Party is the one that does not the Democrats and I just WanNa play that I took a little note on my cheat sheet for the show did I. I did a little note on the the the hotel stationary here. Let's do reverse identity politics. The Democrats identity identity politics is what putting people in these boxes and sticking them against one each against each other in this big national battle where we can just keep each other alive live like cannibals. Let's do reverse identity politics in other words. Let's not focus at all on what they tell us makes us different but what makes us the same and I'm not preaching tm he. I'm just telling you there are specific values. That's Kinda like pollyannish nonsense the Individual Liberty health-care Liberty school choice educational economic growth but this is the kind of stuff that matters and with trump talks language. He does a fantastic job. He doesn't like no one else and I think he made a big big enormous stand in the Indian American community with that fantastic intro by molding all right folks. Thanks again for tuning in and I really appreciate it please. If you wouldn't mind out drives up in my book exonerated. I put a ton of work into it again. You can read about the July twenty seventeen civil war. I call it where they've muller. Team finds out about all the tax and doubles down. You're also going to read about the movie script. Tau They tried this before and John McCain the reviews on the book the earlier views. 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Michael Knowles

"Welcome to the eric metaxas. Show with your host. Eric taxes didn't see sneak in. Welcome to the irc metaxas show. I'll be eric metaxas And i'll be talking to a guest a my guest today. For example is michael knowles k. n. o. w. l. e. s. He's written a book called speechless. Controlling words controlling minds. Candice owens writes. Every single. American needs to read michael knowles book speechless. I don't mean read it eventually. I mean stop what you're doing and pick up this book. Candice owens now kennison's has never said anything like that about any my books so candice. If you're listening you dead to me. You understand you dead to me. Michael knowles welcome. Thank you for having me. Eric i will say the message to candidate you tell her and but you know i don't even bother because she's dead to me that's it. I'm done. I'm done you understand. I'm done a fair. You and i were together in tampa at the turning point. Usa gathering And i was under the impression. I was gonna interview you there in. The maelstrom like people talking and white just crazy. So i'm actually glad that didn't work out and i can interview in your home in nashville. It is pure chaos down there at those events. I have to tell you charlie kirk. That guy deserves credit. For putting on the greatest show in conservatism. He brings During the pandemic and all the lockdowns he has brought now twice in the last six months. Something like five thousand conservative students all in place all these conservative leaders. Commentators hosts authors politicians. And just they're saying no sorry thao she sorry progressive liberal bureaucracy. We're not gonna let you shut us up so as the i is that it's a it's a super spreader event and half dead. Let's be honest. they're dead. It's sick at as as candy says to you. Yeah exactly equally dead equally bad ten percent more okay so seriously though you i wanna talk about your book. Speechless controlling words controlling minds. Were serious people. We have serious conversations but sometimes we goof around. I was told by a little birdie in the other room. Be sure to ask. Michael knowles About his book but be sure to ask him about his anthony. Foul chee impression. Can anybody really. I can't even. I can't even think of what he sounds like. Maybe 'cause i block it out of my mind to be mentally healthy after block these things out but do you. Can you say anything in the voice of You know the the public enemy number one. Anthony she gladly because you see if it dr. She is such an adept politician in part. Because he has these very elitist views but he couches them in this good old new york brooklyn. Now listen you you pigs you slobs put your mask on unless i tell you nuts away you mask and do whatever deck devergie says. He's hurt. Eric i am channeling. This is not a joke. A friend of the family A jewish woman from queens. That i am. I am channeling these kinds of voices because the italians and jews in new york. They have a certain way of talking kind of like this. And that's why when when thao. She has extremely elitist globalist point of view. Everyone thinks dr fouled. She sure we can trust them right. Exactly and and here's the irony not only can't you trust him but don't even think about trusting him or you're insane Yeah i wanted to To end that segment on a positive note. And i think i succeeded while so the book speechless. First of all michael before we get into your book. 'cause you write books but you have a podcast. You call it a podcast. What do you call it. Yes it is a podcast. It's now it's actually syndicated. Now to terrestrial radio case the show. So you like me. It's your michael knowles. And it's the michael knowles show zurich wire the daily wear. That's ben shapiro. Isn't it if ben shapiro along with andrew. Claybin jeremy boring matt walsh candice. Now who is. We'll kick off now that you've declared his head fatwa she's gone hitting and as the fact that she praised your book and she didn't say one thing about about my book. I know hannah's. I'm just telling you don't. Don't ask me favors all right. Don't enough enough enough okay. So you you have a podcast. You've been doing this for a while. You do the book club at prager you You kind of wonderful stuff. So what led you to write this book. Speechless controlling words controlling minds. Well before i had any of the podcasts daily wire with senator cruz or prager anything. Before i had the book with words it all began. Because i had a book without any words which was called reasons to vote for democrats a comprehensive guide. Two hundred fifty blank pages and unexpectedly. I only wrote it. Or i didn't write anything but only published it irritate my democrat friends and relatives but it became a number one bestseller on amazon. So now this is so crazy. I just want to say. I'm a writer. I'm an author. I've written a lot of books. I think i have five new york times. Bestsellers the idea that you wrote. A book had no words and it became a bestseller hard for me to like you michael knowles. It's a good thing. I love you as as my brother in the faith because the idea. I mean it's hilarious but this is true. When did that come out. So that book came out in twenty seventeen and very shortly thereafter. I had a publishing companies. Say okay we want you to write another book. And i said hold on the word. Another is a little strange using that word a little liberally. Nothing about what. I've done should give you any indication that i could write a book with words but i thought it would be ironic for my first book with words to make it about words themselves and also because i think that the manipulation of language to redefine reality is the primary tool by which leftist radicals have up ended society more than by immigration more than by various sorts of economic policies for instance the manipulation of language. Does it because if you can control the speech then as good old uncle aristotle tells us you're controlling politics particularly in a self-governing republic so it's good for book sales that this issue of censorship in free speech is the number one issue right now. It's very bad for the country. But it's good for book sales and i think the problem that i saw was that for thirty years. We've been fighting against pc. It's been going on. I think for more like one hundred years as i detail in the book. But what's strange about. Pc is that the harder we fight against it. The more ground. We seem to lose. And i think it's because political correctness laser trapped for conservatives whereby you got some conservatives who react to it by going squish and just going along with the new words and calling bruce jenner. She and pretending that babies aren't babies or whatever they do obviously that advances political correctness but then even the more stalwart conservatives. The ones who say. I'm not going to go along with your new standard very often. They will abandon standards entirely and they might do this in the name of free speech absolutism or whatever find principle they have but the the problem is either way. The traditional standards are abandoned. The new woke standard takes its place and we keep losing ground. You michael knowles your bright guy. It's not like they say Honestly i have thought about this a lot. I've not thought about it as deeply as you. And i've written not written a book about it. But i've thought about this a lot because i'm all about words being actual author of books with words in them several books not just the most recent one and but i have thought about this whenever anyone uses a word a neil legitimate new word i cringe because i know that this is george orwell talking about newspeak in one thousand nine hundred four you do control. I mean the only way that we can perceive reality is through words through the that. That's just who we are as human beings so when somebody says he was one person or d platforms or trigger. These are all words literally five years ago. No one heard of these words. They're made up the idea of being trans phobic. I remember when homophobic was coined. And i thought that stupid homophobic homo means the same phobic. In other words somebody is sort of making this awkward What what are these words. What are they called portmanteau words. They're just ugly and they're made but they're used as cudgels to shut people up so if somebody says something you can just say you're you're homophobic you are transphobic your this. You're racist in other words. You don't have an argument so you use words as cudgels and that's basically we wear and it works people if they call you something you like what i'm not a. I'm not a racist. I'm not like it sort of becomes Well it it is a form of violence in a sense. You know what lucky for you were at a time in this segment. Because i was going to take you to task of writing a book without words. But i run out of time. We'll be right back. We're talking to michael nolls. K n o w l es. The book is speechless. Hey folks memory loss for you or a loved one. Viva lords founder. Prayed that god would show her the solution to memory loss because her mother had dementia after many divining counters combining faith inner background as a pharmacist. 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They certainly have and there. Is this one advantage that can come from being educated in a very very leftist atheist. Sort of place. Which is you encounter all the best arguments from their side. Either they completely transform you or you kind of knocked them down and get deeper and your own beliefs. So that is that might be an evidence of You know god's providence. Using difficult things for for good and so i and i have a great debt of gratitude to yale for that. They did the same thing to bill. Buckley who wrote god and man at yale is first book you know obviously about those same problems but but you've really hit on it. I mean you mentioned earlier. This this word transphobic or homophobic and and He's kind of silly words. Because what they've done by by coining redefining homophobia is. They've redefined a sort of traditional religious moral opprobrium for certain sexual acts as an irrational fear that's bigoted and terrible and with trans-phobia they've redefined the plane observation that men are not women as an irrational fear and bigoted hatred of of somebody. I mean it's a magnificent li- like it's it's magnificent lie. It's it's extraordinary thing. And that the the normal repulsion one fields for for something. That's deeply confusing to to any of us as a human being is is labeled you know some kind of a neurosis right and there's there's irony in that because i would argue that many people Who are having these gender issues. They are deeply wounded And mentally Motionlessly deeply deeply wounded and confused. And i don't say that To make light of it. I it my my heart breaks. Frankly for somebody struggling with that but yeah the idea that suddenly you're you're called your transphobic like really like that's the best thing to do. You made up a word and now you're beat me over the head with that and a lot of people will say. Oh oh. i didn't realize. I'm sorry i'll i'll take it back well. Of course there's something that's going a little haywire if if you're a man who thinks that he's a woman but now you know we. We can't say that. And i think it's important for conservatives to recognize that political correctness is not just a battle between pure free speech on the one hand and peer censorship on the other. It's it's really about competing sets of standards in many ways. So even when pc uses euphemisms they'll they'll you know they'll say we can say some things they'll say we can't say other things. So does chivalry does. Every society every society has taboos. But when pc use euphemisms they'll say you know rather than calling a woman of a certain age a woman of a certain age instead of an old hag just to be polite right. I mean that that that is softening the reality but it's not undermining the reality. It's just how we how we are polite. What the left will do is. They'll they'll call a criminal justice involved person now. That's not just watering down. The that is inverting. The re the one thing you cannot call a criminal is a justice involves person because what defines the criminals that he's involved in injustice and so i think it's this way to manipulate language not to soften reality or be a little polite. It's to invert reality just tuning in. It's called lying and misrepresenting truth and we have to be clear about that. Because i think sometimes people think it's cute or something well it can be cute It can also be part of a very very dark destructive project to harm people and that's often the case. We know what's happening today but we know similar. Things happened in germany in the thirties. If you hear often enough a certain term winter mention that they are under men loud superman but the they are beneath where men and they are the intervention it becomes a thing it becomes a thing and you go. Yeah all. I get it now the slobs and the jews there that category. Because you've heard it it's completely made up but it's a term and if it's used often enough and that's the power of words and in in in the bible the power of words is clear. God speaks a word in the universe comes into existence. This is very powerful. So what you're talking about is kind of a deep spiritual reality. We're talking about it. You know a linguistic level but there's a reason that people are using words To accomplish horrifying things on mass. Because it's way words powerful right. We know from old uncle bristol. That speech is politics and politics. Speech in a self-governing republic. So the idea of our our society is that words refer to reality. And you and i we speak roughly the same language and we can use those words to discuss our perceptions of and figure out how to get along in this political society but what the left seem to have adopted in the middle of the twentieth century. Was the idea that words. Don't refer to reality. Actually reality will be transformed simply by the words that we use. You know when when hamlet is asked by polonius. What are you reading my lord. Hamlet says words words words. When he's pretending to be insane now our culture actually has gone insane you have a radical thinkers like dairy other other thinkers of the radical left in the sixties and seventies. Who said no. There's nothing outside the text there is no. It's all just words everything socially constructed your sex your relationships your whole society and and that isn't true so you're seeing this now in critical race theory. You're seeing this and transgenderism which is just an old nonstick heresy. It's the same same old thing we've seen many times in civilization if we do not stand and defend the idea that some things are true. Others are false. Some are good other bad. If we don't have something to say in practice then free speech in the abstract isn't going to mean very much. And so i think those procedural defenses manifestly failed and they've given the left the whole game you know. Michael knows your sharp guy. It's not like they say. I'm here to say some of those people they're wrong you. You're talking about some deep stuff. I just want to underscore this is. This is deep stuff. What dairy die. And the deconstructionist's did is. I would argue ultimately a satanic project. It is a very sophisticated way to deconstruct god's reality To say this isn't true is it and we're gonna we're gonna sort of We're going to deconstruct it into nothingness. Words don't meet rich you know nothing means anything ultimately that's what we're talking about. Nothing means anything. There's no such thing as transcendent meaning were truth It's all just words. You just said that you know referring to two hamlets response. But i think we have to be clear that we're talking about insanity when when somebody says when a man says i am a woman. It's very arsenic and old lace when you know so. And so thinks he's president teddy roosevelt and they all humor him. Because it's the polite thing to do in a way. And i feel that way. I feel sorry for people that they're convinced. I'm napoleon bonaparte. I am jesus. There people like that and for amanda believe he is a woman. I don't know how the culture can allow that or encourage that that's to me where we become complicit in this but it's it is a really a hard thing and you do want at least to be gracious in a sense that if i were to meet bruce jenner i'll go along and i'll call him caitlyn because i i don't want to freak him out. I want to be polite but amongst us chickens here. I think we have to be clear. This is In in almost all cases this is this is a deep issue. And we're refusing to look at it we are because we've adopted a radical radical skepticism. That the left. Actually foisted on us. I think is just a tactic in the middle of the twentieth century. Now the the right believes that to be true. I mean the great example of this. I think is the debate over drag queens story. Our you know there's an author self-styled conservative came out and said that drag queen story. Our is one of the blessings of liberty that that sound area is who james madison said that that would be i hate. I hate to name. But it'd be david french. So david french who lost gra- drag queen story our one of the blessings of liberty. Yeah yeah this wouldn't be the only thing that he's gotten wrong. He and i have debated other issues. But i see where he's coming from by think he's wrong there but i understand where he's coming from and it's okay to at least understand how he how he gets there but there are times when when lines are crossed and in the case of drag queens story. Are i would say to david french and anybody that it does cross the line. There's something deeply violating About the way some of these drag queens dress and present stuff and children because children are so innocent Yeah we can steal ourselves against all kinds of things but children cannot there. You know even to use the madison's live i. I don't think any of the founding fathers would recognize this as a blessing of liberty. Liberty is licentious but even beyond david's point on drag queen story specifically my issue is with the radical skepticism because to be as charitable to his argument. Is i can be what he's saying is if we tell perverts. They can't jiggle for kids at the library. Why they'll tell us that we can't go to church on sunday and the simple fact is they're already telling us we can't go to church deep folks. We're gonna hit a pause. We'll be right back with the author of speechless michael. No i'm talking to the author of speech controlling words controlling minds. michael knowles. We were just talking. Michael about the issue of david. French talked about Drag queen story our any sort of couched it in the idea that this is part of liberty or or something and Revisit that how is he mistaken. So i i want to be as charitable as i as i can to david's view because i think a lot of people share that view and it's that if we tell perverts that they can't twerk for toddlers in schools or at the public library well then turn around and tell us that we can't go to church on saturday that makes no sense and everybody knows that makes no sense. And you've only you've got to be a reader of national review or some kind of intellectual to even entertain this preposterous notion in my mind because everybody else. That's silly but go ahead. Yeah under so. I think intuitively. We all know that these things are in no way comparable but i think it has become a part of the conservative sensibility over the last fifteen or twenty years to get rid of all standards entirely and embrace a sort of radical autonomy and embrace liberty as licentious. And so you get very confused about these things way. We doesn't all come from people being unable to think beyond free market. Good no no. There's a point at which free market. Not good if i am getting cheaper Cheaper goods from somebody who's using slave labor suddenly. That's the end of the free market. If you have any morality and humanity you have to say The best thing in the world is not getting cheaper goods and making more money. I have to say no because slave labor is being used if somebody is being exploited in another way Sexually i have a moral obligation to take these things seriously. I can't simply think about the free market and freedom in such a incredibly sloppy almost binary way i mean. Isn't that at the heart of this issue. Well the the moral obligation is the real key here. Because i think what we we need to redefine. We need to define our terms as they properly are understood. Namely what is liberty. The modern liberal idea of liberty is that liberty is the ability to do whatever you want and so the the example of this would be the heroine addict who's got a couple of bucks in his pocket he goes and buys dope and he shoots off. Gosh isn't he free. no i think. That's that's what we would terry -tarian view and there's a reason that you and i don't agree with that. It's not because we're anti liberty. I would say because we're actually pro liberty that we disagree with that right because the classical understanding of liberty as articulated by. Oh i don't know The the pagan greek philosopher. Jesus christ and lord acton. So you've got a broad base-year what they would say is that liberty is the right to do what you ought to do. So this is why in the american free speech tradition. there's no first amendment protection for obscenity. Obscenity i guess you. Could you try to make an argument that it's speech but it's not really speech. It's just an appeal to the peran. Interested actually undermines liberty by racing By rousing the base passions and so true liberty requires limits. Our founding fathers were extraordinarily clear about this and if we as conservatives do not recognize there will be some limits. there will be some standards. There is a good that we are actually aiming toward then we're going to descend into the same kind of knee holistic. Skeptical licentious. Okay but you you. And i were just at turning point. Usa in tampa And some woman who is a porn star and even when we use the word porn star. What is sadder than a woman doing that There's nothing sicker sadder. So calling her a star. I wanna cry But this sad woman wanted to show up there and say like hey. I'm pro america and so patriotic porn. Whatever of and ben dominant. How do we say his name. Been dominant dominant now. He's somebody that that i i know. And i value his thinking but he was deeply troubled that turning point. usa said No thank you. There's like you know this is. This is for young people and our ten is not big enough for a patriotic porn star to show up and we act like. Hey who are we to judge. I mean obviously most people say like yeah. What's the big deal. But there are people like ben dominic dominic. Forgive me Who seem like david. French somehow disagree with drawing that line in that case. I mean this happened a couple days ago. Well i think there's kind of a position to be had here. Because i get i get ben's impulse which is we want more voters and we want to be nice and welcoming to people and then i get the Obviously the traditional opprobrium on this and say no porn stores have no place in the conservative big tent. But i think the third position here is the way that you can kind of reconcile these things. Which is if this lady's going up. And she's using her porn name and she's trying to get people to subscribe to her channel. Then that's really bad and that woman obviously needs to be led off the premises immediately. If and when we don't really know the details of a lot of these things if she were going incognito she were not promoting herself. And we're just trying to go and listen because she was interested in even dream of of of of telling her she can come in. Anybody can come in. Nobody knows who you are. But yeah if you're you're coming there to promote your really vile thing. I mean it's vile rock because i think it's it's vile to all women. Frankly why why would you think you'd be welcomed for that. But there are people making a case. I there are people making that case and so misguided because the key to the big tent is not that you you get rid of all of your standards and you have borne and also could transvestites leading your party and and guiding things. The idea of the big tent. Is you bring people in and then persuade them to adopt your principles your standards. You know the the idea of the standard is that you use it to elevate people's political views and so yeah of course this. The radical libertarian view that we need to be led by Porn stars which you know. There are some people who hold that view. That's madness but how we want we want racists. We want kkk. Come on in. we're big tent. Suddenly you have standards. We'll be right back talking to the author of speechless. Michael knowles talking to michael knowles. The book is speechless. Controlling words controlling minds. so michael. How do we get ahead of this. I mean this. We've framed the problem. But so what is your solution to you. Know how do we deal with the situation in which we find ourselves. well eric. You made a great point in that last segment right is there wishing is there was just one all the rest of his total fluff but the there was this one really good point. The point was the big tent. Part of people are talking about a big tent. Party are not inviting in nazis inviting and terrorists hypocritical. And now accept this. What is wrong with the rianne. Nazis come on in the so. This is the point. That bill buckley made in god and man at yale. He said all this talk about a perfect total academic freedom. It's bs yale would never hire a nazi to teach sociology nor should it. Yale has appointed view it as a mission. There is good the to in the beautiful. And we're going to orient ourselves toward that and so obviously we need to acknowledge these things. And i i really believe that the porn example is a pretty good. I think there's broad agreement here that we need to curtail. The spread of ubiquitous hot high-speed pornography in our culture. There were two laws passed for this in the nineteen ninety s with a republican house and a democrat senate democrat president the communications decency act which we actually argue a lot about now because of its section to thirty provision for big tech and the child online protection act. The cd was gutted by the supreme court and the copa. The child online protection act was held up in the courts as well but there was overwhelming support for this. I talked to a lot of young conservatives. As do you young conservatives in particular really want to curtail this stuff. And i i think. Beginning with obscenity as a way to kind of sh- finally have some limits. Some standards here is a great way to begin. There's no first amendment protection for it. And it's a recognition that liberty requires the suppression of of certain appetites and liberal education requires the cultivation of certain virtues and a conservative society needs prudence. We need to be able to say yeah. Words means something we can kind of know things in and we can kind of guide how we're going to govern ourselves and we really can't tell the difference between drag wing story our in church on sunday or a porn star and political speech than we can't tell the difference between between anything and we can't govern ourselves but just fascinated that really sharp people whether david french ben dominic That they would fall for this. I mean it seems to be kind of pure libertarianism. that in in seconds falls apart. I mean we just said it right. You know if you wanna bring. Let's bring in the racist. We wanted to be a big ten. I don't have to agree with them. But bring them in. No listen speaking of buckley when he founded national review in the fifties He specifically said that we're not going to let the john birch irs in. He understood that there are. We wanted to be as big a tent as can be but we have to draw the line. If pita can't do that everything falls apart. And we're we're seeing conservatives. I guess who who don't i don't know why they would be uncomfortable with this is that they may maybe there. They afraid of being perceived as uncomfortable. I just can't really figure out why somebody goes to that length. They're always afraid of that and they also don't they don't have a substantive moral vision so the only thing conservatives have been able to agree upon for the last quarter century is to cut taxes a little bit temporarily but but on the other issues. They really don't don't have a solid foundation. The left is in an advantage here. Because they following a karl. Marx's famous phrase are aiming at the ruthless criticism of exists from which we get critical theory critical race theory and all the rest of it but for conservatives. We need to actually stand for something we need to be willing to say. This is good and we do it to enforce that standard but the adoption of of this kind of radical skepticism. That is i think defensive because we don't want the left two-wheeled government against us but the simple fact is they are doing that. All society is going to have some standards and so i'd prefer it unhappy occasion when the people give us political power that we wheeled it for the good well again. I when. I was writing my book. If you can keep it about america. It's when i stumbled on some of these ideas that i hadn't thought of before but you know for example if somebody makes an idol of the free market i mean if you're just a sloppy conservative and you can't really be bothered to think carefully so you go free market good you say hey. Free trade great so we're just gonna trade with china. And how long does it take. It's like about another half a sentence that yes. But if they're oppressing their people in grotesque ways i mean should we trade with nazi germany. Listen should we build the ovens to burn the jews. Somebody's going to do it. Who who are you to judge. Let the free market decide. We all make those decisions. We say no. We won't do that. No we won't do that because you're human being and you always have standards so this idea that well if there's enough money to be made we'll relax our standards and we're gonna get cheaper nike and cheaper apple and we're going to do whatever we need to do nba. We're gonna make a lot of money and by the way we'll use the money for something good so if you're torturing and murdering we muslims. We'll look the other way because we'll do something even better than that is bad. How can we not be having this conversation in america today we have given china the store we we have and again. This is republicans who have made the left. Got sucked into you. Know most favored nation status in china. Because they are naive about evil conservatives are typically not naive about evil but they're naive about what the free market can do and we've had twenty plus years to say that oh by the way. China didn't turn into the fifty first state. So maybe we got it wrong. But for the past half century both the left and the right have embraced deregulation and individualism. The the left has done that on the social side with regard to who you can sleep with or whatever and the right has done that on the economic side and the problem is neither of those or a sufficient political vision ultimately. We do need to live together. We do need to state that some things are true and others are false. I the romantic poet on the supreme court. Anthony kennedy famously said in planned. Parenthood v casey that you have a constitutional right to define your own concept of existence. And the thing is you. Don't there is a reality and it will assert itself upon you and we. We need to make decisions of how we're all gonna live together. Isn't it fascinating. I mean it's fascinating to me. That one of the finest legal minds theoretically in the nation could be that sloppy could be so sloppy. You and i could see the preposterousness of what he has said. It's it's it's horrifying actually and it's a reason for americans to take really seriously of being involved in your culture in your government Because some of these people can get it very wrong. That's a classic example. La keep talking to michael knowles. The book folks is speechless. Controlling words controlling minds as the taxes. Show please go to eric. Metaxas dot com sign up for the newsletter or else. I'm not kidding. A don't you know what alvin i decided. We should do. Another segment right now. He did ask him taxes. Okay we should do. A mister postman What's that song. Let's just call it. Let's just call it A listener rights ladies and gentlemen now a segment of a listener writes a listener. What alvin. I just got a letter from a listener. Give his name no well. Iran's with jack conley. I'm not gonna i'm not gonna say it don't care it's i'll just say the initials j. c. kojak and we use which is not even true but it says this is incredible. I get stuff in sometimes. It's very funny. The next letter is very funny. This letter is really serious and it really moved me to tears. It says dear. Eric just completed your biography of bonn. Hoffer thank you for such a provocative inspiring challenging read. I'm a catholic priest and so deeply appreciative of your work. I assure you writing and preaching will be different now. You have opened my eyes. Thanks john. I'm not gonna say the last name but it's a see i. I wanna tell you folks when i get something like this. You know you write books. I prayed so hard. When i was writing the bond hoffer book that god would use the book for his purposes but eleven years later to get a letter like this that this is a priest saying that his writing in his preaching will be different as a result of reading this book. Now i know it's not my book is the life of bonn hoffer but the idea that i had the privilege of writing the book so If you're looking for good book let me recommend my bag bone off or not. Because i wrote it because it's It's kind of the best summation book. If you're gonna read a book you want his whole life and just to be clear you don't have to be a priest or minister to read it. It helps but okay. Here's here's a letter now. This letter is serious. But i found it so funny i said i gotta read this on the air. I'm not gonna mention the guy's name but let's say it's l. This is a real letter. It the title in the email was your selection of only men is short-sighted. And then it's eric. After enjoying your seven men book graduates addition i had misgivings about approving recommending or gifting it and wondered why your picks lacked diversity as the number of women is zero. It's unlikely seven men will inspire female graduates. Your selection of only men is short sighted. Man that hurts. yeah so. I had to respond to joe l. and i wrote this. I'm not joking. That's the letter i got. And this is my response. Dear sir perhaps you will find my seven women book more diverse. Here's a link for you to purchase that book. But i must warn you up front that seven women does not include any men. I'm not sure what can be done at this point. But i thought you should know. Thanks for your email sincerely. Eric metaxas author. That's a real. That's a real letter. Somebody was upset that my book seven men graduates edition didn't include women and i don't really know how to respond to that because it hurts it stings because seven men. It's a fact folks. I'm not going to deny when you're when you're when you're wrong. you're wrong. Seven men has no women in it. I'm guilty. You are and seven women to to double down on my non diversity. Seven women has no men in it. Oh what are you gonna do. Books are printed their published. How people buying reading them and being blessed by them. I'm sorry but you know big man to admit all this. I must thank you. Thank you my next book coming out. Seven drag icons joan collins We got share. It's unbelievable all right. Let me be clear. New dramatic dot com thirty percent off. Use the code eric. That's this week only. They extended it this week. Not joking jump on at neutral dot com thirty percent. Use the code. Eric we're done.

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Dave Chappelle's New Netflix Special?! Tulsa Police Arrest 2 Black Teens For Jaywalking?!

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Dave Chappelle's New Netflix Special?! Tulsa Police Arrest 2 Black Teens For Jaywalking?!

"FC. Would now? Be. In the buildings. Written and now that, Ben. Taylor's. Feeling Is Just talk. Pascal ask show. Yes, welcome, welcome, I'll be having a fantastic Friday. It is Friday Friday y'all beautiful beautiful Friday where I'm at where I'm sitting. It's always beautiful why 'cause I get to do this ish every single day. It is a beautiful thing, so every day is beautiful, but regardless the sun is out. Dem Birds Chirpin. And guess what. We still alive. Your, we're listening. If you're listening to US right now. Just Pat Yourself on the back. Jump back. And Kiss yourself one time because he was still on this planet all right another day to go out there and kick some serious boo. Okay. And you know what the Pascal Show is very appreciative and very happy that you guys are still here on this planet with US listening to US rocking with US arguing with US agreeing with us. Crying with US sometimes laughing with us, it's a beautiful thing so I have to say that real quick, but of course I got my boys in the House we Jack and Tom Jackie Tommy boy what's gone guys going on. Friday, happy Friday mother loves. Yes Hey! Are you doing? Tom I'm exhausted I feel. I really been A. Lasting last few weeks I, you know this is somebody that has to talk about three hours a day and I can't imagine how exhausting it is. For people that have to live. Live this reality day in and day out. It's kind of where my mindset today. I'm exhausted talking about this I'm exhausted just living in this kind of quickly evolving thing i. You Know I. I'm sure we'll get to it today. chapelle special, but. Oh I mean we're going straight to the we're going. We're going straight to it here at the top of the show to be straight Funky, but Of course you know we're going to be talking about all kinds of things. We're going to be talking about all the stuff that's going on. Unfortunately, this is the world that we live in. Remember the time when we were talking about corona virus. Remember that yeah, remember like about a week ago like we were just talking about about two weeks ago and yeah, there was this thing that was infiltrating in. Invading our homes. You know, hide your kids. Hide your wives. It's called covid nineteen and then Dow. That doesn't exist them. Oh i. get it does, but it doesn't. The media and the focus has now gone straight over. To? Black lives matter police brutality, the whole Nizara nine. Okay, and we are going to be talking about that for sure because we gotta talk about the corona virus stuff, but yes, man I mean trust me I feel you on. At Tom It is a lot. It is allowed to consume. There's so much bs that's going on in the world. And there's so much. There's so many reminders of how crappy the world can be. But. We also gotTA remember. That There is a wonderful side of this life. There is a wonderful side of this world and through these really bad moments. Sometimes the best stuff does come out. We start to see what human nature really is. And, sometimes we get to see that human beings are innately good. And so sometimes we need these dark days so that we can see those bright moments, so we're right now going through that right now. We're going through that ISH. Which is trash? It sucks. We've had we had pandemic now. We have pandemonium going on. It's like it. Just keep this wave. This crazy negatively wave is a crazy one, but we gotta ride through it. We're going to be okay. Shoot Man. But I do feel right, but we to be all right exactly Jack but I'm going to say this Tom I do feel you though. And I, I don't want to come off. But it. That's kind of my point is. Is a white man. You know I don't really this isn't something my live day to day. I'll be honest with you when these kind of things pop up. Usually, it's something I'm outraged about and sad about. And then. We're all very add you know. Something else happens or mind kind of goes off of it. But you know being being. Being in being here in talking about it. And you know. Being forced to confront. This in a in a prolonged way I think is good for America. I think it's good. For. I don't know. It. It certainly exhausting. It is exhausting, and I. Don't I don't mean like all God. When can this be over I? Mean Oh. My emotions are frayed by. You know it's just. But again I I'm not saying. You know. This isn't something I have to live every day. Right in here. It is though is. Living every day. You know you're talking about it with me. You're going through the emotional roller coaster ride with my ass, but then at the same time it's like I. Guess you know. I agree you're. You're not coming off any type of my brother? Not at all. You know what you're saying is completely understandable. I feel you want hundred and fifteen thousand percent with the feelings. This is something that you, but you obviously already. No, I'm not saying this to make it sound like anything towards you this is this is just on a rhetorical reason. I'm going to say this. This is what we need to go through. Because we cannot let up right now. If we do let up, we'll just go back to the same O.. B. S. than another kid is going to get killed or another man's going to get killed. Another person is going to get killed, and then we're going to sit there and go. Why didn't we do something before you know and then next thing you know we're coming out with videos. Like that Aaron Paul I take responsibility video, and then it's kind of like well. Where were you before why you suddenly come through in the cut you soon? I'm saying now now you care so. Yes, it's tough right now, but we're going to get through it. It's GonNa be tough for a while. But at the same time. You know there's a lot of people that have been dealing with this kind of stuff for very long time. And is about that damn time that. We shake some trees. Man, you know, but like I said, but here's the other thing. We're very lucky. We're extremely extremely lucky. that. We have this platform. Y- US US three. I'm talking about you me, Jack. Sometimes Lydia I miss her? I do too, but at the same time. Yeah Yeah Lydia watching I. Hope she is how she just goes boop. What these guys with these crazy fellas doing anyway, we have this platform. And everybody is watching right now. Everybody who's listening to US everybody WHO's a part of this conversation, all the new friends that we start gaining all the new people that are part of the family. You know we're all in this together. You are feeling. Tom Exactly how everyone else's feeling, but what's so dope is that we are all here talking about it together. Imagine if you didn't have this show right now. Tom And you just turn on the TV every day. And you're like Oh. This is so oh, so wrong in so messed up and this is always in my face. At least we have a platform in which we can get it out of our systems, you know prevent BS. Laugh about it. Poke Fun at it. Cry About it. Laugh Body! Yell about it everything you know. Confront it really exactly exactly I I don't I mean I. Don't think I would do this if I didn't have this show, but I could see where it'd be easier for some people to just tune all of this out. Just be like oh I'm GonNa Power Watch the office again until this is over hell yeah. I'm GonNa Power Watch all of family guy. And Smoke Hella weed or drink myself ridiculous. You know what I'm saying like. It's so easy to just tune off. Turn your brain off and just walk away piece of King So. You know I'm thankful for this and I'm thankful for you to you know to. No. Not, you to you see what I'm saying though I'm thankful for you, guys and I'm thankful for. That was my dad's joke for the day night. Anyway This week. Tracy at-bat Anyway. Anyway I'm the same and I'm thankful for all the people that are listening and tuning in and being a part of the show because we are all in this together. We're going to get through this like I said in the very very beginning and I love that Jack Jack through that back when we first started when I didn't even have a microphone yet. Been, we were doing this whole home quarantine thing. And I'm playing that. We won't to be all right and we're GONNA. Get through this. Same thing right now. We're going to be all right. We don't get through this. You know what I'm saying. Let's Party on. All right good morning, everybody you know Good Morning Stephen Good Morning James Good Morning Jack. I'm reading the chats so good Morning Jack Buck. You're hearing. You're here and you're here and you're hear what the Hell! The Good Morning Enemy Dacia. Good Morning. Enemy nation crystal rose. WHAT'S UP FAM-? Let's see who else Roberto Mr Super. Michelle what is up good morning? Good Morning. We have so much. We gotTA TALK ABOUT WE'RE GONNA get through it I. We're going to get through all this stuff. Obviously, there's a lot to talk about first and foremost. Sorry to go into this, but before we go into the. Conversation before we go into that I just noticed some people were talking right when we were doing the countdown and I missed a lot of the a lot of the chat, but between Roberto and Mr Suber. Apparently they were talking about some interesting information. Some new developing news officers Shaaban may still receive his pension worth over one million dollars, even being fired and charged with murder. And that was just from Roberto shot up the Roberto Ortiz. classiest. Goss yes I really do appreciate that now. That has some interesting news man. Real talk. What I mean I don't mean to laugh, but that is a little bit of a surprise so you so he could still get his money's. He could still get paid. Whilst. Being charged. After, means fired after being fired and being and being charged with mayor. What the what's Jack? The Minnesota public. Employees Retirement Association. says. That shelvin would remain eligible to file for his pension as early as age fifty. Though! He's forty four now. Though not provide details on this specific amount he would receive. People are estimates of up to one point five million dollars right now. retirement plan officials said that employees terminated voluntarily for cause are eligible for future benefits unless they choose a forfeit their future benefit, which he's not going to do that and receive a refund of all their contributions made during their employment. They say neither are board. Our staff have the discussion to increase decrease in naira. Revoke benefits, and he changes to current law would need to be done through the legislature legislator legislative process. Waking up my mouth. The? That sounds so wrong. There's a double meaning in that love. Roy. Okay Jack didn't get his usual morning mouth exercise. The. Wife must be really upset right now. Anyway, going on. Your mouth. Go keep going yeah. Basically I mean he's still eligible. They can't change it And public pensions are paid for combination contributions from the tax payer funded local governments and workers themselves. And as well as investment returns so I guess he's been working. He's been putting money into a pension fund. in basically would be able to get paid back out. So it's a public employment contract but I. Guess you know. Maybe that's one of the things that goes to legislation to go get changed. But I don't know if it would happen in the next six years to make make them not eligible any more interested. Even an get all the money back that he put in while he was working. Which is up two? Thousand dollars a year or something like that, so let me ask you guys. This I mean and I'm GonNa put this out. someone's getting loud over there. So. Let me ask you. Is this the question? Is I'M GONNA I'm? GonNa put this out to everybody right now. My question goes out to you, guys. What do you think? Do you think deal and should be able to get his pension which is well over? A million dollars, even after being fired and charged with second degree murder. Please most definitely calmed down below. Let me know you think for sure I would love to know about that. Do you think he deserves it? Let me know. Enemy. Nation just said something that I thought was very very true or I hope that they do this The Floyd family will sue for that's what an enemy nation said, and I'm going to say this I hope that they do i. hope that they take every single penny every red cent from that man real talk if he does get his pension. If, it's well over million dollars. Desk going to the family real talk. Man Died. George. Floyd died. What the hell. You know what I'm saying. That's what I think Suam. Take them to take him to court. Take him to civil court. Take every dial of the that. He has every single dollar. Essay. Person Willing he won't be able to spend it when he spends the rest of his life in prison anyway but. Yeah Yeah I'd his wife probably wishes her. Ex Wife for probably wishes that she would stay with them for another six years until he got it right. there. They'll eat part of the divorce proceedings. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I'm. Sorry, sorry about that. I'm I'm getting distracted over here. So, anyway. Yes, so definitely calmed down below. Let me know what you think about all that because I'd like to know. Let's go onto the next thing. Something that. The rose just said Chris. larose said and I. Don't know what this is and I know. This is where kind of a shooting from the hip right now and I'm writing off just the comments right now, but I'm GonNa ask this really quick. Bill Willie for Bill Wylie. For President Twenty, twenty one. Is Anybody know what this is? Baby stepping into two thousand twenty one. What what the heck is this? I don't because I coulda sworn. I saw a name. So widely trending. That name. Trending on Google. Just just last night, but I didn't know what it was. You know what I'm saying so I just kept going I kept. Is An actor known for each to the next day. That thing you do in punching the clown. Okay so he's. In I'm not seeing any political well here we go. Oh here we go. Completely different person. There's a guy that can fill in the county assessor. This was from thousand nineteen I guess he is A. and counting flint. Mana Copa County. I'm not saying anything at here and I'll do research where you're talking. Okay. Yeah, because I want to know what the heck that is. I mean that just doesn't make that kind of came out of nowhere. Maybe Chris is GonNa come down below and let us know what the heck that is to. You know. The. Enemy nation did say something else here and I'm just trying to find a really quick. Oh, so this is something interesting. This is something completely different. Complete left turn, but enemy nation. Put out a quote that Joe Biden had recently said. And quoting what an enemy nation! tweeted or text? He, said even this is from Joe Biden's mouth. Even Dr King's assassination did not have the worldwide impact that George Floyd's death did. That's from Joe Biden's mouth. What do you guys think on that? It's hard to say without context I. Don't really know true. That is very true I. Want to shoot from the hip and get it wrong. So having not seen the quote context I'M NOT GONNA. Comment on, you know what? Go ahead. I mean. Imagine back then there wasn't as big of a The technology wasn't. Wasn't there right? So newspapers spread there was some new stations and things. I would cover stuff, but the ability now for these types of movements to have a bigger impact is just that much amplified by technology I mean the fact that everybody around the world can view these cell phone videos. and. There wasn't cell phone videos of the assassination if that was present. I imagined that it would have been that much more impactful. Political climate the. Overall climate of people talking about race is is that much more amplified now, too? So I think that. Of course it would have to have a bigger impact you know just because of the the how he has picked up and you see that worldwide protests happen plea police brutality doesn't just happen in America. So you know in racism isn't just an America right, and so you know I think it just it makes sense that that's probably true statement. I got the full quote here. Go for it all right. Says even Dr. King's assassination did not have the worldwide impact. At George, Floyd's death did is just like it's just like television change. The Civil Rights Movement for the better when they saw bull connor and his dogs, ripping the clothes off elderly black women, going to church and firehoses, ripping the skin off of young kids, what happened to George Floyd? Now you got how many people around the country millions of cell phones? It's changed the way everybody's at this look at the millions of people marching around the world. Interesting. I was pretty spot on what he was saying without even what he's. You KINDA GOTTA check. Yeah. But you know obviously you got to play with play with the confines of everything that's going on. The technology you know what what? Jack, in Joe, say said is basically the same combination, but at the same time I think that if mlk was mlk junior was around today. and was to be assassinated now. Be a completely different reaction. I think it would be the same, if not more if not more. Vicious, if not more. Of An uproar. You. See what I'm saying. Because of with the technologies and all that you know. The back then there was no social media. There were no cellphones. Everything was on their new everything was in newspapers and on television and radio, and that's about it so. Interesting. It's an interesting. Interesting Says interesting quote for sure for sure. So we gotta go into some of this top news information and all that. Real quick time. Did you find out the the time spot for that at all? Yeah, for the goes in on Candice Oh, and starts almost exactly at the twenty two minute mark. Okay, I'm going to. We're going to. We're GONNA. Pull that up here in a second, but before we go into it this part of our top news, all right I don't know if you guys know by this. The I didn't even know about this real talk, but Dave Chapelle has a Netflix. A new netflix special right now. Streaming and it came out last night if I'm correct. I didn't even know about this. This is came out, but it is a very interesting once I'm reading something straight off a variety. Dish Appel speaks out on George. Floyd's death blasts Candice Owens in searing netflix special so David Appel does not hold back in a new netflix special entitled. Eight forty-six. The streaming platforms. Surprise debuted for for free on its use tube comedy channel late last night. In a in a set. Set with his signature searing social commentary. The the comedian touches on everything from George Fluids Death to being unable to accept a Grammy Award on the day Kobe Bryant died to the hypocrisy of conservative t of the conservative TV host Laura Ingram. And even throws a signature bit about John. Rule for levity so the thing is, he goes in. He has a special now. I don't know if you know I haven't seen it yet, but TOM has so I need to hear from you, Tom, what did you think of it? Is it any good? Was it funny? What before we show any clips because we're gonNA, talk about we're. GonNa get into candice. Own here owns here in a second, but oh, yeah, of course we can't. We can't go talk about it, so I want to know what. What was your first impression of the stand up? Special? It's raw. It's really raw really. Yeah and he's very emotional. As you would imagine. Certainly, more emotional than I've ever seen Dave Chapelle really. Yeah interesting emotional. This emotional. Like I don't you know this Dave Chapelle Show I. Don't think I've ever seen Dave. chapelle emotional. Does that make sense? You know what I'm saying like? He's you when you say emotional like you see in like tear going down his cheek type. No, but there were several times during it where I felt like Oh Dave is going GonNa start crying like you know. Times was like. You know. I don't think he does cry, but you can hear. You can hear the emotion in his voice. Is Pretty Clear? It's so. I don't know how I'd qualified and I don't know that I should I. It's not a don't know that it's really a comedy special, although Chapelle. They're definitely funny moments in it, but it's. It's more him just talking. About. You know it's a raw. Just just Dave talking about what he sees going on how he's feeling about it his past experiences and what this means to him and. There there are a few jokes peppered in there, but I I mean I wouldn't necessarily call it a comedy special. It's more of a oratory I. Don't know how I would put it, but it is good I not. I would say it's essential. But it's. Most, of the time, Egypt's talks about. He talks a little bit about Don. Lemon talks a little bit about Kansas. Owens talks a little bit about Laura Ingraham, but mostly talks about. Just Kinda, you know. How this made him feel. Gotcha. You know I, and then the name of the special is eight, forty six, or what is it? Six. You know and. So! Yeah, it's. It's called a forty-six obviously The special was filmed on June sixth in Yellow Springs Ohio with a corona virus era, social, distancing guidelines in place for ten dis, including face masks and temperature checks. So this was June six today is what the twelfth, so he literally did this and it premiered in five days. That's incredible now I know that he also had. He has a deal. He had a deal multimillion dollar deal with Netflix's that he had to. You know basically. Do you had to uphold his side of the contract he has. He was supposed to put out three specials. He put out so far he had put out to. Right so now he's put his third one. And this one you know like Tom said. I'm very interested to see it for myself, so that I can put in my own take on it as well but. We're about to check out a small snippet. We're about to check out a small snippet of this of this A. Stand up where he is basically going in on the people that we all love knowing love. Candice owns yeah. I'm sorry. But? Sorry, not sorry. We're going to do this. Hold Up, guys. Now the thing is that. So crazy. The thing is is I understand that he had to. You know obviously had to put out a special the whole nine, but I keep wondering is this. Was this the right time? To put something out. Yeah. I'm not saying like I ain't trying to be no jerk. Here is just an ongoing question of is this is. Was this the right time? To do this because? There is jokes, but then there is also an I understand for him. Stand up is a some sort of Catharsis. Some sort of platform to you know it's, it's a sanctuary for him to get his his emotions and his thoughts out, and he's a very deep thinker. This dude is hell a deep. You know. He smokes the so of course he's going to be deep thinker and he's and he's an incredible speaker. And Storyteller. Wonder, is this the right time? But I leave that up to you guys. You know you're going to have to check it out for yourselves, but first we're GONNA show a little bit of a clip in regards to his take on Candice Owens and I'm giving you guys a fair warning right now. This is raw as raw can be so viewer discretion is advised. Aka earmuffs like a Mug. Okay He curses a lot. Just so you guys don't if you guys didn't catch that old school saying. He curses a lot. Just so you know okay here we go. Quick. We're going to do a very quickly. Bitch there we go. She's works. I can't think of worst. Way To make money. Smokes articulate? Idiot! I've ever seen in my fucking life. She's so articulate. She tell you how stupid she is precisely. and. She told George Floyd's rap record. On the Internet. Oh, he was this back levers. He's Chug at it, and he's not a hero. And why does the black community make him a hero? Why did you choose him as a hero? We didn't choose them you did they killed him and that wasn't right, so he's the guy. I'M GONNA. Stop right there. That's enough before we get kicked off. Copyright Issues Y'all unfortunately. But you can see. He's very passionate. As you can see, he's very upset. Understandably. To me. To me. That! Don't look like no comedy special. That looks like A. I don't know what the word is. Seems a little bit more like a speech. For. Like for just about all the way down. Where he's going to get up there and say what he needs to say, because he's angry understandably. Understandably angry, but I'm going okay. Does this need to be? Sorry Does it need to be? Doesn't need to be a special. Doesn't need to be a special. There you go you know like. Does that need to absolutely be a special? Could, that be something that is solely for netflix or or not. Netflix's I'm sorry for Youtube. You know what I'm saying. Whereas some other special piece that he put on the side, you see what I'm saying, but then I understand like. I, don't know it's like, is it? The right climate is the right time to talk about those things like to joke about those, and then he's not really joking about it. He's going in about candice. Owens and I understand that piece trust me well I'm with you, my brother, but at the same time. It makes you wonder. Why he decided to use this as a special, you see what I'm saying. I mean. The word out I mean if there's all these news articles and news stations that are going out there and not providing that commentary and he's saying you know what. This is what will have. People Are Thinking Ryan. You know if he's got to be that voice of reason that goes out there and use net and then and youtube to be able to reach millions of people. I. Everything that he's done in his past I. think that he is a very smart individuals. Incredibly you know and he takes. The stance, everybody needs to take a stance and I i. think that he is He's doing the right thing I think that he went out there. He saw the opportunity for it, and he wanted to voices opinion, and he has opinion matches up with a lot of people. So. And I. Don't think it's the wrong time for it. I don't either and I keep in mind. This is not a comedy. This is not killing them softly. Okay, this is not. This is not A. Twenty jokes per minute standup special. This is Dave Chapelle processing stuff on June six in real time. And Jim Davidson comic. Comic since he was a kid. I mean he was a kid when he started doing this stuff. This is how processes information is getting out on stage. And doing his. You know. An speaking his mind. So. I I don't want you to think like this whole special going on Republicans and Kansas Owens, and all that if he goes off on Don, lemon to about don lemon calling out celebrities saying you know. Why aren't you protesting out in the streets? Why aren't you lending your voice and he says? The streets are doing just fine from cells. They don't need me your jar rule coming out and given our piece on it. The streets are doing just fine by themselves. I mean he's it basically use you. Basically, no one is safe. Obviously, no one is safe. It is an open forum. Because obviously he has very. He has very. Open views about things you know what I'm saying. He has very open ideas. You know not everything that he has you know. He's sometimes right there in the middle. Sometimes, he's all the way on one side and then the next minute he's. Sometimes. He has conservative ideas, and then in conservative thoughts, and then suddenly he goes over, and he's. He's pretty goes hell a liberal, so he's all over the place. So I understand that and and the thing is that yeah, I mean it's. It's something that. I do feel like yes, at the end of the day. It is something that is good for for everyone to hear. Absolutely I wouldn't call it a comedy special. But I think it's something that was good for everybody to hear you see what I'm saying because we all look to. The black community does look to actually the community you know that has grown to love and appreciate Dave. Chapelle I. Mean You know one of the best sketch comedy shows of all time you know. We all looked to him to hear his. His take on things or just because he's going to do a comedic spin on it. This one was not so much on a comedic comedic spin from my understanding but at the same time you WanNa. Hear him because he's one of the best stand ups of all time. Period so in a way. It's like you know what. I would hear this I would want to hear this you know. Let this beyond on Netflix. Let, this be a special but I think he needs to give us one more. One more where we get to actually laugh, but at the same time you know. Put this deflects. Have this they're. You know. Put It on that platform, so that people here you because he has a different take, he has a totally different. VIBE with stand up. You know his thing is completely different. I mean he's you. Take Him and you put him next to. Kevin Hart. Their delivery the way they story tell the way they talk about. Things are to drastically different styles. But if you really want to think about things, you listen to Dave Chapelle. You know? So I give him mad props, you know. After throwing out that question and thinking about it. It's like no man. You put this out here. Because the people need to hear it. The people definitely need to hear it now. It might not be. It might not be comedy, but it's still is stand up. You know it might be a little bit of A. You know a different type of comedy. For different types of stand up. Let's say you know like Lenny. Bruce for example you know not the I wouldn't say. He's the best example and Tom. You could probably correct me when I'm saying this. Because you know your, stand up more than me. Stand up comedians more than me, but I mean Lenny Bruce would go on stage and read. Definitions out of the dictionary. Protesting about freedom of speech, and so on and so forth. It wasn't standup. I mean it was stand up, but it wasn't comedy. It was just a different form, and I can see that same thing in this video in that in that small clip you know with with Dave Chapelle you know. Yeah. It's raw and. Dave is one of those guys that like it's hard to you know for for people of our generation. I can't think of a comic that. More. You know the influenced I mean Chapelle show was appointment viewing the college I went to. That was largely white. And you know that we sent every week we sit down and watch it. And sometimes it was hilarious and deal with social commentary other times it did. But Tobel he's he's done for the culture. Is it for people in my generation what he's for the culture and as far as getting? The black point of view out to white people that might not have never heard. I mean he's. He's the Titan. Yeah, and and the thing is you know he's. He's a crossover. You know he's across over comedian he's. He was somebody who was still keeping it real. But for some odd reason was able to translate to. The white community is well not only to the black community, but the white community and the white community like He's hilarious and he speaking so many truths, and then even within his comedy. There was so much even in this. In his show, his sketch comedy show that was so much social commentary buried in the comedy that was it was deep is hell, and you're going damn, you know this guy's is a genius. Disguise hilarious, and he's a genius, and so he's now forming into something different. or at least the last few comedy specials like there was the two that just that were just put out like last year. One of them was. Straight comedy and another one was talking like sitting on a like exactly the same format. He was a sitting there on a stool, just talking. Just speaking his mind about certain things talking about the the book pimp in in all this stuff in the definition of a bottom be in all this stuff. You know what I mean and it was fascinating. Because people want to hear him speak so. This is a different form. You know so I. Give Him props for putting this out, and it's crazy that it was only shot. You know five days ago you could tell. It's not perfect. It's no way shape or form perfect. You hear like the the sound isn't patched into the camera. You know it's just real raw, and like you said Tom. It's really really raw. So huge shout out to him, man you know he he. You. He needs to do more stuff like that I think you know. Like I, said it's just I. Think people just need to be prepared for the new? Dave chapelle approach. So. I looked up I was like this is more like a dark humor right? Yeah so. And then we could. Actually, put down! It says it's called black comedy which is. A historical term that is used, but I think it's an interesting play on words for this right. But it's black, calming, Black Humor, dark comedy, dark humor gallows, humor It's a subject matter that is generally considered taboo. Subjects that normally considered serious or painful to discuss I. think it fits into that. If you going to call it comedy. I. Don't know that I would call it comedy I. Mean I watched it this morning? And I'd say it's essential viewing. Say it. It's a very important persons perspective on it. person WHO's perspective on race and culture brought home. We kind of grew up on I think it's definitely worth watching I'd say. People should watch it but I I don't know that I I don't know that I call it a comedy special, and that's not a dig at it. It's just. Why should it be a comedy? Special Guy got killed right? It's more Dave just speaking his mind. And processing this with everybody else, right? Are People laughing in a an audience during it all. There are moments in it where people laugh, but more people taking in what he's saying right now on. Remind everybody in the audience wearing masks, too, so it's kind of hard to gauge. People's emotions are where all you see is there is but. You know there are a few moments in there where there's some Cathartic laughing where they'll throw in a joke. When things start to get really really serious, and then it's like you'll laugh like five times is hard. To break. Say maybe in the special there might be. Three things that qualifies a joke. You Know Yeah Yeah. I see what you're saying. I want to read some of these comments real quick Michelle. Smell said. gives it gives more exposure that way. She's responding to it being on Netflix, it gives more exposure that way and he. He owed Netflix's a special If you have to do one and you don't feel like making jokes, why not? Sarah Sarah's wrote a love song because her record required one interesting. And that's that's a good argument you know. And that's a good point. You know, but like I. said I think that maybe he said. Let's put this one out because this is what's going on. This is the sign of the times we need to talk about these things and I want to put these things out. It's fine will put this out and I'll do another special. I'll do another specimen. You never know you never know he might have been like Yo I know this is not comedy, but I need to put this out. It was debut. That was the worst day of the Davis ever. You. Know what I'm saying that was. That was the worst one ever shuttered setup setup Jack Shut up. You do Dave Chapelle impersonation. I. Will Not no Nope, not GonNa hear me to ask. Little, but anyway but I see I. See Michelle's point. You know most definitely something that you cannot. You can't just. I could see him going. Hey, I'm GONNA put this out. I need to put this out, you know. Let's put this out. Man. Like just put it out. I will do another. Maybe he's like I'm GonNa. Put this out because we people need to hear this and then I'm GonNa. Put out another one, and that's going to be a full on comedy special, but at the same time I really do appreciate him taking the platform that he has and using using that piece. To put out there. But like I, said you know. It'll be interesting, you know. Any munitions they get Dave on the show. Pascal I would love that to happen maybe body year. Give it a year. Let's see where let's see where the numbers go. You know what I'm saying. As far as subscribers are follower base, and all that stuff, go first, and then you know we can. We could definitely most definitely talk. They do ANALII I. Don't think I've ever seen. Dave do panel before be interviewed on. That's a good question I'd I'd I? Honestly he has done a few. He's done a few, but you know. He's on like Breakfast Club in the morning. Why does it's one of the biggest radio shows and one of the biggest shows out there? It's huge. You know what I'm saying, but it took them years to get him on the show years. So you know we gotta just keep pushing. Keep getting things going enemy. Nation just said Joe Rogan same thing. Joe Rogan does not do interviews. He's like if you WanNa, know me just watch my show. With Dave laundromat. No I. Don't think so actually I. Don't think so. I think he's still hasn't been on that show yet yet. Yeah, give it time. Give it time. Kevin Hart has been on it. I mean there's a little duval's been on it. There's been other comedians and artists on that show, but we'll we'll see. We'll see he if he's willing to do those kind of things anyway. Go into a quick commercial break will be right back when we come back. We're going to be talking about the two black teens that were arrested in Tulsa for Jaywalking. We'll be right back. This is the Pascal show back. Hey Welcome, welcome back I think you've got so much for tuning in and like I. Always say this is your first time checking out the show. Please go hit that like button underneath this feed right now if you're enjoying the conversation, and of course as always crush the subscribe button on our Youtube Channel, that would really really means a lot anyway. We gotta go into this next top story. Because this is some really interesting stuff, I don't know what the heck is going on with the world today, but. Two black teens in Tulsa were arrested. For Jaywalking Yeah. FELLAS. Speak on it. Yeah! Tulsa police released video footage this week, two black teens, getting handcuffed and one of them taken into custody for Jaywalking, sparking criticism of the incident from the city's mayor and the head of a coalition of black officers So this is from this happened on June four. There's video out there. I got it right here. Yeah, let's let's take. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Take a look at this video. And of course they're saying a warning. There could be some graphic images. ETC, so viewer discretion is advised here we go. What are you? This relaxed. Road. WHOA. which you got, why are you trying to? Pick Matt. What the Hell Hey? Hey. Why are you putting your hands on? Why you put. because. Why are you putting in because why? Hollywood? All, he was doing with Jay which talk with him. Like that Sir. I'm just trying to tell you. He has on I have nothing on. This relaxed. What? You're saying. Oh. Let them turn them over. For no reason. That doesn't make any sense. Coming. Oh. Oh. Here commissioned. Him To. Not Going. Here in. The car. Is handcuffed and. He does. What is he? What is he going to base. My goodness me checking me foreign got. With the! Why are you acting like a crazy man? What you want to check me because I'm black. I'm black. You see a criminal you're get. Wow. Oh. Button me ago, guys! Do you ever say. I'm not playing around. Hey thank you for being cool. All right. Appreciate it. Thanks for being. Compliance. So. That's his treat. Wow Walk on. The opposite side of traffic. and. Don't be in the Middle Street to. Coming at you, excuse me. Were there, but you guys moving into the Middle Street. Following my mind. He was walking behind. Yeah. Wow! Wow. CD's sidewalks there either. They'd probably rest of walking on private property if they're on grass. Wow! Guys what the heck did. I just see. What the hell was! Abuse of power that was hello abuse of power man. The first off. Like what were they doing wrong? They were just walking. You're going to arrest do for Jaywalking. How was that a a? arrestable offence. How is that what? Didn't even do anything man. Unbelievable that was that just what? Then then the one of The guy that was standing the one the one that was standing not in the Hoodie, but the one in the black. t-shirt wasn't doing anything. He was just chilling. He was trying to tell his friend the chill. Why would you arrest? Why would you put handcuffs on the dude? That isn't start wasn't even starting anything first off. Let me go back. rewind real quick. Why would you do that to the kid in the Hoodie in the first place? He just ran up and grabbed him like that why? Why you you see, there's nothing on the do. The the two kids are just walking. What the hell was that what the hell was that y'all. Yeah. And They say that there's no. There's those things police brutality. Those are things racist police brutality, those things, racial tensions between black and police, black and blue, and you see something like this. Come on, guys, man. This is so insane, wow! Sorry Thom. We're GONNA say. As? This makes me think back when I was a kid about those guys age and like. The stuff I got up to that was way worse than Jaywalking. I never was treated like that at the for. Those guys are just walking in the street I mean. Does No. I've been. I mean I've given cops more reasons to give me a hard time. Those two were and it didn't happen so. Do you have a quote here. Let's see. I have the mayor. The mayor of Tulsa came out with a quote about it. He said I want every kid and tell so to feel safe to walk down the street and their neighborhood. He continued I know the officers in that unit focus on removal of illegal guns from the streets, but the goal of that work should be families feel safe in their neighborhood. This instance accomplish the opposite. He said we can do better now. Can I ask you something Tom Jack? was there any real reason why they were getting followed and getting arrested or getting detained? Were there any reports anywhere else that somebody was saying? Hey, these kids are walking around. Was it like another amount Aubrey type of situation where you know to some some people see to black kids. Walking, down the street type of thing, and they just got a little nervous. You know what I'm saying. Getting a few phone calls from some Kerins out there that are just kind of doing their neighborhood watch type of fish like where? Where does this? Where does this sprout from? You see what I'm saying. It just seems like it came out of nowhere. You know whether those kids are walking on private property or not. Their mind, their own damn business. They weren't doing anything as you see. There was nothing on those kids. There were just chilling. There were just walking together. Now you now you get arrested for walking while black. What the Hell's this? Is there. Like, he just went up and grabbed him to. We don't see anything from beforehand. Like had they talk doing the car? And then they didn't stop walking, and they just kept on going or something like and so they is mad that they didn't like comply with them. Like getting out of the car and then ran up behind me grabbing. I'm like that like. I knew here any rights being read. I didn't hear like any due process in there, yeah! And then something on twitter, somebody just said. A little boxes. What's up little boxes? Thank you so much for for commenting. He said they said sorry. They weren't there weren't even sidewalks on that street. Exactly it's like where the Hell Ed the damn sidewalks. I don't see no sidewalks, and then and then the COP. What are the COPS has the audacity to go? Make sure whenever you're walking. You're on the opposite going against traffic instead of going with the traffic. Wait a second, so you're telling me that if I walk with the traffic on a particular side of the street on a sidewalk. I'm at my breaking the law now. Now, I'm breaking the law. If I'm not on the side of the street. That's going against the traffic I'm confused. That was your excuse. That was your reason. Just be sure to do that. Thank you for complying. Buddy here's a treat you? We're going on unrest you now. We're GONNA unrest you. complied. Why would you arrest? The do the second dude in the first place you already got the first guy homeboys is trying to say breath. Chill chill. Chill. That's always doing. He's not waving his hands. He's not losing his mind. He's not doing anything crazy. He's just trying to tell his friend. Chill out so that he doesn't die. So that he doesn't get his neon neon his neck. And they and they arrest the guy the black shirt for no reason. Why would you do with that? They only took the one man into custody. They handcuff the guy in the black shirt. They did not bring him into custody. Why would you hand? Man, but you see what I'm saying why we handcuff him in the first place. Why absolutely whereas the reason behind that? That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. That guy was as he said complying so if you're complying why arrest the guy and put them on the side of the street if he's complying if he's sitting there going? Hey, buddy, chill, breath, chill, chill, chill, bre chill. If he's really. grabbed him from behind without giving them morning. So he was resisting arrest you. Remember. This is coming from the same department. That major Travis Yates is coming on backlash because he went on public radio and Tulsa on Tuesday and they and he referenced that police are shooting black Americans about twenty four percent less than they probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed. He says that system racism policing just doesn't exist. But then you got somebody you show footage of a man of two young men to teens walking. Ones wearing a Hoodie so. Forbid. Another trayvon Martin situations about to happen in a way. You, go you run over? You grab him from behind. What is he going to do? Instantly you're going to do that to how you doing what what is this? What you do doing, Bro? He even he didn't even start acting a fool until. He was face down in the dirt with handcuffs on. That's the only time that he started. That's when he really started to freak out. Getting arrested is a scary thing. Especially when you're getting arrested for no reason. Your face down in the dirt and you just you're walking while black. You know it's so funny. I don't mean to make this a personal thing. But I am. So. I went to one of the protests right. And I'm walking. I'm walking with with my family and walking with my my my nephew, my my sister, my brother-in-law, a girl like we're all together were holding. They're holding signs. Were all there in solidarity we go and we protest, but then after we protests, there was a moment like I said before because you know like about an hour after we had left some do try to drive through the protesters shooting a gun in the air. Out there just like literally forty-five minutes about after we left the protest and like I said I have this weird sixth sense of when I feel like in a in a crowd things about to start popping off and ninety nine point nine percent I'm right so. I felt this so I left. I'm walking down. We're all walking back to where our cars are, and it's quite a bit of a walk right. We're walking. Across major streets were walking. Over a highway, the whole nine right, we're on the sidewalks by the way. But there was one moment and because every single. Intersection. There are cops at every single intersection. Some are in riot gear hiding behind buildings, just waiting for things to start popping off right. So each. Each in every single intersection. That I walk I walk by I. See all these cops now. I'm like all right I'm already getting nervous because I'm. These guys would like you know the froth at the mouth, you know. They look like rabid dogs ready. They're ready to go. You know what I mean. They're ready to pounce. My family's like Hey let's cross the street now. This is not at an intersection. They want us. My family and my group of people that I was with wanted us to Jay walk across the street and I. Kid you not in the back of my head I'm like man. I really don't want to walk. Oh I. DON'T WANNA Jay walk. I'm worried that they're going to do something to me just for Jaywalking and then Lo and behold this happens. Of video like this happens. And you're going man, see. I'm not crazy. Because the stuff like this does happen. Jay Walking while black. Gets. You Ass, arrested Y'all apparently, that's what happens. Jay Walking while black. People wonder why. If people wonder why there's so much anger going on in the world. For All y'all think that this does not exist. You on some really good, really good drugs. Crazy. FELLAS. I. Think back on all the stuff I did when I was these kids age. You know all the Bumpkins I had with cops whether it be for Evan. Liquor underage whether it be for having a little bit of pot or a pipe or whatever the hell. And many times in my life, I could have been arrested and the cops because I i. don't know if it's because I'm white I. Don't know why it is but. You I've never been arrested. But I guarantee you. If our black in about three of those incidences, I would definitely been arrested and charged. I mean. These guys are walking down the street and I. Don't know I haven't watched the video too many times, but I mean it looks like by the time. The cops are even out of the car. They're walking over towards the grass anyway. Angle, they weren't like. I, said they. They hurt nobody. They ain't hurting nobody. They weren't doing anything. It reminds me of. When I was like I know fourteen. Fifteen had sleepover at one of my friends, houses and We stayed up all night, and we went out at like five thirty in the morning or something. We're just like walking around the suburbs. And a cop pulled up. And, he's you know, say hey. You guys doing out here. You're not old enough to be out of this time. You need to go back home. And I remember US walking back and kind of blow, an awesome steam and trash-talking. That cop cop never got out of his car. COP never searched us. The COP never did any of that. I mean very similar circumstances. And we were treated like young gentlemen and just eight. Can you go home? You're not supposed to be out here. It wasn't you got anything in your pockets. Let me let me search you down. To America's. Yup. The reason the mayor said that there's illegal guns. They're trying to crack down on illegal guns. So that's just an assumption that you can make now nec anybody doing anything that they have an illegal gun anything. Oh, there's there's something protruding out of You know on the side of his pants. They think it's a gun. It's a fanny pack. You know. Oh, it's got to be a gun. Let's, let's go and get him. Let's go? Guys sprinkled some crack on. Be Fine, you don't. Shout the Dave Chappelle. Seriously you know what I'm saying is like. That's that's okay. That apparently, is i. you know and then the fact that. Man Like those kinds of things are are wrong and I hope. I hope those officers were. I hope something something must have happened to the to the. Something does happen with those officers. At some point now, I'll say this though to. Kid The kids shouldn't have spat on him. I'll say that two straight up because isn't that assault? On an officer! Now with the covert now it's terrorism, right? Oh right. But see now gives more reason for him to be detained. Now. That's the reason why he's arrested. He shouldn't have done that. That's the part where he he messed up. Understandably. He's angry and if I was getting arrested for no reason, yeah, that would be one. I can't put my hands on anything like that shoe. Spit for sure, but at the same time thinking about your in a losing battle right now. We're all things. All the odds are against you real. Talk all odds against you. You? You Try I. I would just be like. Still. Calm as a Hindu cow real talk just. Chill. You know. Marie saying this isn't this. Is this incident took place? Incident took place June fourth. I mean George Floyd have may twenty fifth I mean. People are still feeling a certain way towards cops and understandably so. You're getting hassled for walking down the street. I could see where you'd be a little pissed off. Like yeah, get off Me Valley doing yeah frigging car I'm walking down the street. Let me be let me let me live man. Can a man live? Ten Aman Jaywalk. Can't imagine Jaywalk. Just let in, just let them walk. Now, you can't even do that. Shoe. Now here's some other stuff. We gotta go. We a switch gears here. That was some trash, but definitely calmed down below and let us know what you think about all of that you know. I know. Some people were responding and were very very surprised. Seeing this. Tulsa of all places. We gotta go into the next thing so apparently, and this is also has to do with cops. So. Apparently officer. Officers. Who Knelt with George Floyd? Protesters is being accused of Insubordination insubordination. A day later, I can't speak anymore. So Tom Exercise Yeah those mouth, ex- exercise so Tommy speak on it. Yeah I'll a San. Francisco police officer took a knee with George Floyd protesters during a massive demonstration in San Francisco's mission district. The next day is supervisor sent him home early for insubordination. The reason he was sent home for insubordination is because the officer officer Ruben Roads. Where's earrings to work every day e? Identifies as non binary. And interesting. So, I guess technically police policy is and don't WanNa. Make sure I get this right. But. I guess technically. Police policy is male officers are forbidden from wearing earrings on duty. However, officer Rhode says that he has worn these earrings every day. He's been on the job and it was only the day after he took a knee with protesters that he was disciplined per insubordination. Now, so. Just so everybody understands. Can you explain to to us? What exactly insubordination? Means and stands for. I mean it's just not following police proceed police policy. Yes least. For not obeying the rules for Male, not to wear earrings. Basically already basically orders, so he didn't. He was not willing to apparently from what his. You know from what his? His Department thought. He wasn't willing to obey. The the laws. or I mean sorry obeyed the rules within. The, police force that. Just because out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. They. Have a problem with him wearing earrings were they like low dangling. Were they chandeliers on his ears? I'm confused. Like you know what I'm saying like. Why does that suddenly matter? Matters because he took a knee I mean obviously is says here. He wears these earrings to work people nearly every day, and has so as done so without issue. I mean keeping my San Francisco. They're not really out there trying to. Stamp out people that are non binary. On the books that males aren't going to be able to wear earrings, but it's not like they're. They clearly weren't enforcing it. They're a liberal city. But apparently what they don't like is when you take a knee with protesters so solidarity. That that's that's what did it for him. They they use this year and BS is their excuse, but. Well they're gonNA. Say The San Francisco Police Force is going to. Revise their transphobic dress code. Is What is coming out now? Oh, great that'll it. That's what the problem was. Probably Did you not know that the fact that they're seeking retribution for COP. That's you know showing some humanity and kneeling with protesters. That's not the problem. The problem is there's transphobia against his earrings. Sure Absolutely I. I thought you knew this I thought you knew that Tom. You know clearly clearly because of the dress code. And nothing to do with Blm. Absolutely, not absolutely not I don't know we mentioned and I know that really matters opposite. Reuben roads is an African American so. Yeah doubly. Doubly despicable that they would discipline him for taking a knee with protesters and come up with is stupid, excuse of always wearing earrings like he did all last week and all last month in all last year for the past few years. It seems like. That's a big problem. Interesting. Yeah, they'll try to you somehow. They'll try to get you somehow. Ain't that a shame. Again this. I mean. Could you run a worse PR came campaign for police. Then, so many of these police departments in police unions are doing right now. You're under intense scrutiny. For the way you treat minorities and you send home. A black officer. Ostensibly for wearing earrings, but really because he was kneeling with protesters. I mean. It really hurts the argument that it's a few bad eggs. I'm starting to think it might be there a few good eggs, right and a lot. Because I'm also looking here. At the fraternal order police in Chicago. Say Chicago officers who kneel with protesters could be kicked out of the Police Union. I'm this is not a few bad eggs. This is national rot of American policing. is just crazy. In the fact, Jack What do you think? I mean. For the that individual and he. Obviously was being reprimanded for nearly. And most of the most of the police officers should be for the people right so they should be able to sympathize she. They should be able to show support. And finding reason to have him go home. And be disciplined. You know that was a i. i WanNa see who is the person that decided to discipline them. Right known to see who that person was, and what their reasoning is, and it's like. Can you even like if they're out in about? Aren't Delaware in riot gear, so aren't. His ears covered up by a helmet. So. It's like that's why I feel like. It's a super stretch to be able to find. That is the reason that they were sent home now. Because if you're heads covered. Guess what you can't see your ears like. Crazy best up, I again. Yeah, it's really hard I. Mean I want to find the inherent good and people I think it's really. In the world's going to go down real quick. If everyone's looking around and just sees everyone as bad, there has got to be good people that are in the police force There's you know there are. Good in bed all over the place but I'm hoping that there is more good than bad. But yes, with the spotlight that has been shown on a whole bunch of people right now in issuing a lot of bad. And It is hard to say because people don't want to be in subordinate. They don't want to be fired from their job. So there is that you know power from the top down thing of like. Don't get out of line and you know you can't express your individual. You have to be what the force tells you to be done, and that's part of it. You're part of the police force here, not just an individual policeman or policewoman. Yeah, IT'S A. Better fall in line or else you know the other fifty people there behind. You are GonNa find a reason for you to be you know thrown out. Yeah, just like the army, if you're. The person behind you has your back and whether or not you have personal differences like there's an overall agenda that has kept in place. You, know I understand. It's hard for people to take a stand. Hopefully in coming years, it will be easier for people to do so yeah I mean. What were you GonNa? Say Tom Go. Okay! We're talking about the SAN. Francisco off on him being disciplined for supposedly earrings, but really is because he took a knee. Related to the story is. This. Fraternal Order Police in Chicago basically saying. If you take protesters, you could be kicked out of police, union. So so that we get the opposite side of you know we're GonNa both sides this thing hang on. Not that I agree with this at all, but I just want you to hear the argument from the other side from police officer that is against police officers neely. This is a quote from fraternal order of Police President John Cat. Zara of Chicago. He says I don't believe it's the time or place to be doing that meaning taking a knee with protesters. If you neal, you'll be risking being brought up on charges thrown out of the lodge. Let's see, he says here. It's essential. He says essentially an act of treason for police, because these protesters are pushing for policies that would hurt the police. Says specifically this weekend? This was about defunding and abolishing the police officers, and you're going to take a knee for that. It's ridiculous. So that that's the other side. That's what police are saying Oh this is an act of treason. With, these protesters because. Some of them are asking to defend the police. Yeah. And and that's the thing I mean. Obviously, there's this ongoing thing of defunding the police to defend the police or not to defend the police. That is the question. Obviously, there's the pro and con of both sides. There's a lot of questions. And there's no real full on answer to that at all, but what I'm GonNa. Do Right now is it's time to open up the phones time to do a little bit of speak on it, but here's the thing. There's some guidelines now. y'All because the thing is is I can't be on the phone with everybody for twenty minutes each okay, so unfortunately I'm going to give you guys a certain allotted amount of. Of Time you say what you need to say and I'm going to hang up if you guys have a problem with that. I'm sorry, but at the same time them other breaks. I know that everybody wants to put in their two cents, and they have a lot to say, but I need you guys. If you guys call in, I need to get you guys to see your point. I love you all. But then I'm going to hang up and I'm going to open up the conversation for all of us to talk about this. because. It's been an ongoing thing. And the nighttime shows have a little bit more leniency in a little bit more time to you know. Chop it up and talk and make it more lax and relaxed, but the show. Unfortunately in the morning we gotta keep it Kinda Straight Funky, and to the point, so give us a call at three, one, four, seven, six, six, four, five, eight, one. Okay, and let us know what you think about any of the conversations any of the topics that we have been talking about thus far okay. Definitely, let us know three, one, four, seven, six, six, four, five, eight one. So, we are going to go into the next piece. Of Information next piece of Combo. Where was it? Let me see here. Trump's rally. This is something interesting. Trump's rally is GONNA be on June teeth in Tulsa. How fitting we just talked about Tulsa now. We're talking about Tulsa again. Now June the TR- The rally. Trump's rally is gonNA. BE ON JUNE, teen in Tulsa and people are saying that this is a racist slap in the face. Tommy, boy, speak on it. Black immunity. The black community and political leaders are calling on President Donald Trump to at least change the date of an Oklahoma. Rally. kick-starting his return to public campaigning, saying that holding the event on June eighteen, the day that marks the end of slavery in America is a slap in the face. Trump campaign officials discussed in advance the possible reaction to the June eighteenth date, but there are no plans to change it despite fierce blowback. Kamla. And Tulsa, civic leaders were among the black leaders who said it was offensive for trump to pick that day June nineteenth, and that place Tulsa and Oklahoma City then in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one was the site of a fiery and orchestrated white on black attack. ferring to the Black Wall Street massacre that happened in Tulsa. So. COMAL Harris said. This isn't just a wink to white supremacists. He's throwing them a welcome home party. No kidding. full-on region, it's a full on red carpet event. He's pulling out the red carpet. There's going to be `Paparazzi the whole night. I mean this is like he's pulling it out like this is the Oscars for real talk on a day. That shouldn't be. He shouldn't even be doing something like this at all, and he's not changing it at all, you know. What were you saying Jack? He, put a thing on twitter, and said look at this as a celebration. skews me as is like row. What's as a celebration of the? Jesus. You gotTA. Be Kidding me. Find it? This is. This is a president. See the thing is that there are people out here. That consists consistently will sit here and tell us to our face all day long like I said I. Just don't get it. You're saying that he does all these great things revived bleep out. A Hughes in. This Thursday. Oh, he did this to exonerate these people. Because of the one thousand, nine, hundred, four criminal build and Blah Blah Blah and it's like I i. Get all that you know and and I. Get you know. Business is helping with businesses and black business, but then he does things like. He does things like this? You know if it was like another day June teats stood for like. I! Dunno something that had to do with something serious in and. Had to do something for for white people, you know what one? He'd still do it anyway I think. because. He would just capitalize on that as much as he could. But it's like why why is he? I don't know it's to me. It doesn't make. I'm trying to process this and see. That's the thing more and more. More and more. It, all roads are pointing towards him being racist. Period. If, he was somebody who was trying to do something we're out. Go Out of his way to show that he is not a racist human being. He would not of all days soon, teeth. y'All. You don't think he'd been like. We'll wait a second. Actually, that's not a good. Can we do the day after the? Coup we do the day before. No. I'll read here I've got a quote from Katrina. Pearson she's a senior adviser to the trump campaign. She says as the Party of Lincoln Republicans are proud of the history of June team. President trump has built a record of success for black Americans including unprecedented low unemployment prior to the global pandemic all time, high funding for historically black colleges and universities and criminal justice reform boy. They love pulling out those three facts, don't they? Every time he does something racist well. Hey, but there's a record low unemployment, se use and. Criminal Justice reform every time he gets called out for being racist. He points those three things one of which was bipartisan lettuce legislation that had been in the works for like a decade that'd being criminal justice reform. And you're GONNA talk about unprecedented low unemployment. Look at that trend line. Go find that trend line of black unemployment. You'll see. It started in two thousand nine, and just continued through the Obama Administration into the trump. He didn't do that. He didn't do any of that. Now, historically black colleges and universities. Yeah, he did do that, and that's good, but damn. He seems to bring that up every time. He gets called out for racism. He loves that Cardi can whip out and be like. Oh, no, but I did that. Age. All Day long what I did see what I did see what I did. But then George Brown. Floyd happens, and then it's like. Now. I'm not even bat an eye to that y'all terrorists. It's all in ANTIFA. It's all this other stuff. Then now. June, TNT this happening. And he has the audacity to put to do his like he can't even pay respect to that day. He has to put his stuff on top of that. As basically a middle finger. To the black lives matter movement. No one seeing this I mean we're seeing this, you know all three of us are seeing this, you know we all seen this, but I'm talking about. Is everybody else seeing this? Just put the two and two together. Put the math together. You cannot tell me that this is not. Kinda messed up. Video. The from the White House press secretary, responding to why. It's going to happen on June team. Oh, you sent me a video. Yeah, okay, hold up! We're going to do this. Reading that quote from that was. Katrina, Pearson? This is from the White House press, Secretary Kaley Kaley. Kaley, Manama Nana what's her name Caitlyn. Kate, McKinnon right. Now it's A. Kaley MIC. Any. WHY MACARONI! Trouble with ago yesterday. mckinney mckanie. mckinney mckanie mckinney model. Mega, Mega Mega Same Kasama. Someone Mecca a hi Mecca Hiney. Okay messing the press secretary should. Right. Yeah, I'm trying to pull this up. Guy Sorry. I gotta I gotTA. Meet yes real quick. This is going to be good a feeling. We got a little bit of an ad. We gotTA gotTa love. These ads gotTa love. These ads y'all but anyway. Like I, said they're trying to find any excuse. Like. They're trying to do the artist's spin. It's the art of Spin Y'all he they are. They are literally going out of their way to try to see what they can do in regards to spinning this as many ways as they can. This is trash. This is trifling y'all like I said. This is some this is some B S. This is true. BS. Hold Up, guys. I'm Q- ended up. It's finally done. Here. Is this woman in all her glory? mcinerney Mecca Lecca Hi Mecca Hiney. Ho. Here we go. Do. President. Around we don't. Look President trump is. The African American community is very near and dear heart as as rallies. He often shares the gray work. He has done for minority communities. When you look at the fact that this president got criminal justice reform done that this president brought us the lowest. Unemployment numbers and history of our country that this president made HBO fee. Funding Permanent He's working on rectify. Injustices justice that go back to the very beginning of this country's history so it's a meaningful data him It's a day where he wants to share some of the progress that's been made as we look forward and more. That needs to be done especially as we're looking at this police reform. Okay! Kaisei SOCK I. I know. Hold up hold up neal decide. Power Politics? This thing is losing its mind. Hold up! Trying to have control of this thing is not being my friend and I was trying to pull that back. See this this. This is what I wish. It was youtube because it it. Is? There's no control over it. All Man. So! Anyway sorry guys! You find it on youtube w really really great. Jack. If. You're going to hear me. Sorry. So because the thing is because I i. didn't hear anything you guys just said I was trying to throw up the try to run it back again, but it's. It's being a big pain in the ASS. Especially one is in those embedded websites and stuff. Man like that stuff gets really really aggravating, but it's basically like every single time that. Anybody who represents trump anybody? They always throw out those three bullets. Tom Just said, but also is almost like that is his equivalent of. Three black friends I can't be racist. It's literally what it is. See what I did. See what I did there. Though you know what I'm saying, the by Black Black Friends I'm not racist. I got bright people my phone. That I call. None of them are named tyrone. Hey, look at that. See See I got diverse France. That's all he's doing every single time. See the three things that they did. Oh, you know this and this and. ABC using and then and then shut up. You were just making excuses, and it just looks bad. quit using those excuses. If you had a longer laundry list of things that you've done, you wouldn't have to say anything. You wouldn't have to consistently prove yourself that you've done things for the black community period. We would. It'd be like we salute you breath. We got you. Yes trump is trump for the black people that was not. Oh. Video starts. Thank you. Let me let me use both you guys are like. Know what I'm saying you. You missed us. When muted, I said and q the black person walking behind during the conflict. and Go yes. Guys thinking none to see here, just some Lionel, white woman. Yeah nothing to see here. Sprinkle some crack on her. Hold on one second. Man! So. Let me is thirty seconds in, you said. Let me find this. Okay hold on. Queue this up again like I said it's just. She is sitting there going I'm going to try to make as many excuses I can. Because, it's what I'm paid to do. These are the excuses, but here we go. President trump is. African, American community is very near and dear to his heart. At these rallies often shares the gray work. He has done for minority communities. When you look at the fact that this president got justice before Stein. What does he do? What does he do for the President? I wonder what he's doing what he does, because no way, shape or form. Would he be able to walk behind? Her like that. You don't have saying. He would not have any. Day would literally there's no way he would not be able to break through security and just walk right behind her, so he. He would. He would have gotten tackled so hard. So what does he do for the President? Or what is? What does he do at the White House? That is the question you know what I mean. Man That is that is. That is trash that is trash, but like I said you know. The. There is only so much that you can sit here and say all day long. About about trump and like I said. If there's more information out there. Please let me. Know? Let me. Know Gary O'Neil what the F. She's out of there. You know what I mean. There's a lot of people just going. WHAT THE HECK! Trump is trip and again Yala completely right? Thank you, you know. Shanta said. He's shown no concern whatsoever especially since the protesting has started. Yes, that's why I'm trying to say Nikki on Youtube said. Being racist is not how many black friends you have. To me, it's the way you think and talk to black human beings, it absolutely I. It's just A. It's just an ongoing joke that I have. About the whole I got three black friends, but it's it's kind of an ongoing joke that the black community does have that. White people will instantly say I'm just going to educate some people real quick why people will instantly say Oh, I can't be racist I. Have Black Friends, and it's almost like that is there Goto or they'll say? I'm not racist. I would have voted for Obama. Third Time I voted for Obama. I can't be racist yet. They'll be in a car driving in their in. In their ride and say a black person cuts off in the on the highway, and they'll be the first one to say the n word screaming at that person that just cut them off, but they're in the confines of their own car. So that's all I'm saying is. There's this double standard of Oh. I'm not racist I'm not racist got black friends and it's like. See the fact that you have to throw that out there. Says, something and then the other thing is is when people have to sit there and feel like they're obligated to let you know if they have to prove. They are not racist, ninety five percent of the time they as. Just so you know. Because they did something that was. Just. That caused them to actually say that they are not racist. and. Then the floodgates opened of I, would vote for Obama a third time, or Oh, you know I. I watched Friday fifteen hundred times. I know every single word to gangster's paradise. Is something like that? You know what I'm saying. It's like Whoa who cares doesn't matter. So. It's just an ongoing thing. Can we just talk about? To. Her G. beforehand in two thousand fifteen. called. Trump's comments about Mexican immigrants racist. Instead. It's an authentic unfortunate call, trump and republican, but now she's hired in her whole her spend her entire life. That's like. To me, a racist statement is a racist statement. I don't like Donald Trump said. Like. Wait! I'm sorry. That's what she said about trump's statements in two thousand fifteen. Really now now she's the press secretary, and now she and now she's secure in the bags sounds like. Now. She's trying to secure the bags. That's all she's trying to do. She's trying to secure. The bags. Interesting ten vein have a great day. Thank you so much for watching. She said they said great show today. But they got ahead out, so thank you thank you. Just said something he's. He's been repeating it because he wants to make sure that it's been seen so I'm seeing it I'm going to read it out loud for you. Okay enemy said the greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge. Because obviously I said some things in regards to. In regards to we all, said the same things about the here's these three bullet points that he has the only three bullet points that he has. The only so. I don't know. Unless. There's some other things that you don't know that we don't know. then. Send it to us, but as far as I'm concerned. have yet to see anything else. I've yet to see other things. You know. Secondhand biker said. Can you be white and not racist? That's a very good question secondhand biker. I? Think okay, you know what I'm GonNa. Say this and I'm going to keep a straight funky I. think everybody's a little racist. I think everybody is even. Black, people! You know there's a that ongoing argument that that black people cannot be racist. I think black people can be racist to. You know their type of impounded into people's. Xactly, so no matter what. You know. If you get cut off by some Asian person, you're automatically probably thinking. Yup, well, there is perpetuating stereotype like seriously. You might be thinking that. Just because it was ingrained in your brain. You Know I. Feel like racism is something that has been instilled in our brains since day one, or since the moment we have witnessed or heard, or you know seen racism. Firsthand. But yes, I think everybody's a little racist. Everybody! Shoot even issue. I be racist sometimes to shoot. I'm not going to see here. I'm going to say that I'm perfect. Even. Though I. Yes yes, yes, so there you go! You're white person impersonation. That White Hick you. That Mirka. America Kerala now. Yeah America we're going to go down and. Gets US Moonshine? Play a song with Piccadilly. Anyway. or or or is the white girl the the Valley Girl Wacko? Can't I mean God? I got the greatness, Dr. So I do have those you know what I'm saying, so yeah, everybody's a little racist. Everybody. And I think it's a matter of just acknowledging that and knowing that you have that in the back of your mind, but you're also learning that racism. Does that make sense? You know if you acknowledge okay. I fully see that I'm not fully one hundred and ten percent. All the way woke. You know that I am I. AM human and that I'm learning as I'm going because that's what life is all about? In a consistently trying to unlearn certain things. Then I think that's okay. As long as you acknowledged that you have a bit of ignorance in your brain. If you don't acknowledge that then. That's when you are seriously a racist. A racist. So what I'm saying. You are a full on absolutely fluent in the language of racism. You're not trying to dumb it down or unlearn eight or push it over to the side and learn a new language. You're only learning the language of hate so therefore you are fluent. Therefore, you are a racist. But I think everybody knows a little bit of Spanish. Does that make sense? Everybody's a little bit. You know, don't they? Start you know what I mean Agua everybody knows the racial slurs out there. You know what I'm saying. Everybody knows him. But doesn't mean that we start going learning more. And trying to expand our vernacular in racism, trying to learn the vocabulary in all the B. S. rhetoric and racist rhetoric. That's out there. If you start doing that. That is a problem. Therefore, you are fluent in the language of racism, therefore you are. Racist so what I'm saying. But other than that? Everybody has a little bit of racism in this is what it is. I've been thinking about this over the last week and. You know you hear all the time you know. We aren't born into this world. Being Racist, we aren't. Children aren't racist and I get where they're coming. Where people say that are coming from with that argument. I think it's a little bit of an over. You could have the best I mean speaking a white guy. You can have the best most woke non-racist parents in the world, but if you grow up in America. America is a racist country. Just straight up founded on genocide built by slavery racist country. if you grow up here and you, you're part of the social conditioning in America. You can easily fall into the trap of racism beautifully, said Tom and. Trying to deprogrammed from that. Is Not easy. It's not easy like oh I can just go back to being a kid and everybody's people know you have to d program and get that idea. Learn and empathize empathy is hard. Really hard. Yeah. Not like leaving America, which is a racist country, not being racist here is. Can Be a difficult thing. To put yourself in the shoes of someone, who's life experience, you have no. Idea what it I mean, it's hard. Now absolutely, it's something you have to work on every day. So I if I. Sometimes, when I'm like when I see people who are like Oh, kids aren't racist. Look! Yeah, they haven't been conditioned yet by America. D program is tough. Empathy tough. Trying to see everybody as a human being a country that wants you to do anything, but that is hard. Yes. And I'll say this to. You know. Unless Jackie you wanted to say, did you want to? Go before I, if the. If you turn on the news. Everything in the news is negative. Imagine if the news stations only put up positive news about people otherwise when you look on turn on the news, this person was shot. This person was robbed. This person was killed. This person did this. This person did that like it's highlighting the negativity of our society. If the news only highlighted all the good. I think that one that would be programming the differently. Otherwise. It just makes us look at society as Oh my gosh. I'm para. Evil in the world, and that's what really perpetuate all those stereotypes, because it's like look. Another person did this and other black person to this and other white person to this. Look what happened here like it is a it is. The news is the divider. And that's been proven in the last several months where all these new stations are owned by one main larger corporation or another, and they put out blanket statements, and you can go and go from news station news station. They're saying the exact same thing is a propaganda machine, but it's made to seem like everyone is getting a fair side. But it's not in the if you look at the news like when the parents have to turn the news off because it's too violent for the kids. Five o'clock and then repeated again and then repeat in the morning, and then if you open up the newspaper and everything it's everything has to be headline catcher. Everything has to be that has to be jabbing has to be eye catching I. Don't know it's It's I mean it's hard to make a change. And When everything is made not to be changed, so it's funny. It's like I would love to see just just you know. piggy backing off of what you just said Jack. I would love to see instead of being in this this is. Just pulling this out of my, but right now, so please just please work with me here, but. Instead of it if it bleeds, it leads. If it if it heals. than. A has appeal. Or something like that. Does that make any sense. If it heals at appeals. You know what I mean there you go. ooh, thank you, thank you, Jack, if a huge the yeah, if a heels, there's appeal or it appeals. You know what I mean, but we don't really have those you notice the. Stuff that they throw on the news. That is like the happy-go-lucky stuff. Is Kinda done in passing the go moving onto the next thing you know it's another bleeding harder. It's another you know somebody who's dying or somebody who's dead or this injustice or something like that? They always go. Oh, yeah, you know baby! Shamu was born today moving on. You know three minute bit bad. Three black men have been shot and killed today. You know what I'm saying. This is like they just kind of saved in passing. They move on or they go. Oh, look at this cute little thing, cute little girl dancing to twenty four karat magic all moving out. There's another person who died today. You know what I'm saying this. It's this done, and they move on. You know or like the girl who changed the the. Of Racism in the in the dictionary like. They don't really talk about those things they just kinda. Jump on it and then move on because it's the next thing that's bleeding out there if it bleeds, it leads. In go maybe if there was more of a balance that would be. Amazing. You know in this. What Tom was saying just a second ago. Yes, there is a certain level racism that exists on all platforms on all in all races you know. Shoot. You know I'll let me say two different stories real quick. You know there's. Black, the say a white guy who is. He's got plenty of black friends the whole nine. You know what I mean. He's he's. He's he's. You know he is not. At. The surface level racist in the slightest bit you know. He's got his black friends. He's he's got. He's got a very integrated lifestyle. He's got a very integrated group of friends the whole nine. They're all people from all walks of life, the whole nine, okay? And looking like a damn like. Gap Commercial for crying out loud is just multi multi multiracial multicultural, the whole nine, but then he goes into a seven eleven. and. He's getting some food. And he standing in line in all of a sudden, some dudes that some black guys that come in, and it's Kinda late at night. They look a little shady. Just because of maybe just how they're dressed demeanor. Suddenly homeboy. Why guy that is so cool with his multicultural friends in all that. Gets a little nervous. Why? Because of all the things that are ingrained in his brain from what he is consumed on social media. What are you seeing on TV, and what society is instilled in his brain as well. These are the same people they look exactly like his friends and. Jacob and Jingle Hammerschmidt. His name is my name to but apparently. These guys look exactly. Like his best friends. Getty still nervous. Because he sees. At face value. What they present themselves as. Stereotype Bang instantly Oh. They probably want to rob the place. Oh, they're probably going to beat me up. I might get my I might get Blah Blah. Blah how much money you were having my wallet, but isn't it really Oh, man? I got my black card in there and got my I got my Amex. Like. You know what I mean instantly. Instantly happens. Instantly happens, but then you also got. You also got the other side. You could say the same thing. Black. Guy, he's a black guy instead. Multicultural friends. Maybe he has more predominantly black friends as well. Right. He's with it. He's the culture the whole nine, but he's an upstanding individual. He's an upstanding citizen of the world. Right pays his taxes ain't got no baby. Mamas has a good job. Good car, good credit the whole nine. He's in the same seven eleven. Those same dudes walk in and guess what. He's going to be nervous to. Why because what is instilled out there in society, no matter what. There's Inter racism inside of each races well. You could sit here and say is a white guy at the seven eleven and three. White guys that Look Shady's hell. Walk in, and you know the real like you know the coming from the wrong side side of the tracks and white. That White Guy. His bottles going to pucker up to. Because of what's been instilled as well. So this racism all over the place. I mean you can go into different. Categories that we can go. You know what I mean. We can keep it going and go like the list goes on and on and on and on this turns into like a soap opera, so the point where you find out that you have. A twin evil twin that you'd never knew that that even existed on the other side of the world. You just never know it's. It's so crazy. It gets so deep. It can go, so we can go so deep with this conversation. But yes, it all exists. In most definitely all exists. Does the matter of how we unlearn it in how we keep pressing forward. You know what I mean. Gary Degree more Gary just said Damn. What kind of world do we live in when all this still happens shaking my head, you know, and that's the thing man I don't know I. Don't know. You know like it's not like we see a lot of movies. Where or TV shows or News, where we see people getting together and doing great wonderful things you know aside from the black lives matter movement you know, but that's what one of the that they're fighting against is has something to do with racism. But it's not like we're all coming together. Hands across the world type of thing like we are all human beings, and we are all one you know we don't. We're not. We're not. Putting positive things in putting those things on a pedestal where we're constantly throwing. We're not showing those things. Like Jackass said. We don't show. People trying to heal the world. We, don't. News Network Yeah Yeah. Yeah some some good news. You know what I mean absolutely now if there was some. If, there was more diversity like that outside of this place. Outside of just some good news. That'd be amazing. But. Unfortunately we don't have that. So, yeah, shaking my head! We need to be on a different world we need. We need to be creating a different world right now. Yes. We need to put protest and all that we need needs to get ugly before it gets beautiful again, but I'm hoping that when we get on the other side of this stuff. The world can actually start looking at each other as human. Not just a race, not just as Oh. He's black and he's this and. Here's his, you know. Like some kind of caste system you know what I'm saying like. Push all that issue cy on the side and just be like Yo. We are all living human beings. We are all breathing. We all have a heart that beats. We all bleed red. We are human. But, he only happened. When we actually make that effort, but we are lazy. And we have crazy adhd. are focused goes everywhere. So. We'll see what happens with this whole. Black lives matter protests and the movements, and all that and I hope that it does move. Towards a something more positive for sure. And you know we all agree on that. Obviously, you know so here it is. I'm saying this out. Loud enemy nation was to call in I'm going to say this enemy, please. The phone lines are open gives a call three, one, four, seven, six, four, five, eight, one I just didn't want to jump I knew that was an important piece. He was commenting in the comments section and I was like listen. We need to talk about this racism piece, but hold on. Because you know. We got. We stop at eleven thirty today. Unfortunately but You know if you. WanNa call in and you have some thoughts. Please give us a call. I got the call right now. Let me jump on here right now. Enemy what's up, man? How you doing brother? I'm doing my brother. You Won't pay I'm blessed. I'm blessed enemy. What's on your mind? Man? Speak on it. Okay. I! Jack Incomes probably listening. So I, hope they they fact. And and start you know talking. Am I going to make it long. But fat check. The. Okay, yeah, absolutely they're. They're listening so I'm sure the fact, and and in order to explain trump's chess moves. In Tulsa. You have to understand at least. The black history told the. Wall Street. And in order to understand Black Wall Street. You have to understand a whole. Understand history all the way from Greece to Rome now this to the average person. Hey, man, if. You, you know he's on some other stuff. But. It just all out in democracy versus. A Republic. and boils down to. Shop. Versus Socialism. People all Black Law Street, they they idolize booker. T. Washington was the black capitalist as opposed to W E. The boys. who were? A black. Social. Okay right so. To Pulsa. On June. Which? Also was arguably the most influential of fluid lack. Neighborhoods in the United States. Will actually in the world. As Con. Okay By him by him going there. Appealing to. The blacks coastal it. He's not a call to black social. Obama follow it. Obama was associated his father was posted to. Study Marxism. Father of socialism or He's making a call to black socialist and people that are on the list these making a call to black. People that have been ostracized and they're going to their to the whole, we're the following. Black. We talk about. stuff like. Mugging the United States and stuff like that because. Everybody's going out. And criticize US and and we'll be shouted down. Look bad on your show everybody's. Got Three Dollars And you know Paul Anytime I. Say something y'All. I'm the only. Right, so we we. We'd be quiet, but that's what he's going to. So the the mainstream media who unapologetically left wing. They'll say he's ready. They'll you you say well. They can only say he did Black College. You didn't say nothing about black for chief, and he just nominated in March. He didn't say nothing about this, but you. Because you don't want, you don't all day. Oh No no, no, no I'm saying like. Hold Up, hold up, hold up to enemy. Hold Up. Okay, because this is the thing you know because here's the thing. I love you mad. Respect for you enemy okay and I. Don't want ever want you to feel like we're piling on you, but at the same time when we're not piling on you, you call in you. Give us all these all this information, but when I tried to talk back and at least rebuttal with response. You jumped down my throat. That I can't get a word in edgewise. Then I. Get off the off the phone with you and there's a lot that you say so. You have to be respectful in that regard now when it comes to the the man that was the chief that was a that was dominated. No I'm not, but that's only that is only one man. Yes, that is amazing situation. That is an amazing piece that is amazing piece of information, but at the same time. That is one thing that he's. He's that he's done. Since this whole thing has happened, there's all these other things that are going on outside that he's not acknowledging, and that is a huge problem, then on top of that to answer to the June teeth thing and I'm I'm just posing this up as a question, which of course I want to jump off here so I can get the guys back in here and we're going to talk about Black Wall Street. We're going to talk about the Tulsa and all that, but but when you say. that. He's that he's doing this for a bigger reason. Why isn't he saying those things? Why is his press secretary only throwing out those three things that you mentioned last? On the last show you mrs those three things that that woman regurgitated out of her own damn mouth so. That's why it's like. Wait a second if he has more things. Why aren't they being put out there and then especially during this time? Why? Why is he coming off at least? Like he's ignoring the general people and what they need. Okay? US Will. Go ahead. The Lotto bomb ahead ninety five percent of the vote. By Hey I don't never hear nobody rather off the stuff that he did for Black Americans. Yes black-americans did start to fall latin-american unemployment. Did Start Fall. Under his administration. But at the same time. White. And Black, the black unemployment shell, but the Black Welchel even. started. Now white wealth on the other hand. Fifty percent. So. It took. It took a lock Obama. Seven years eight year term to to get black unemployment. Ida, tinkers up OUTTA OUTTA double digits. It took him the US now. Why unemployment on the other hand? Low. Grew. Fifty percent there so. It's food. And I answered is something that's into a whole side track, but what I'm saying is. Barack Obama had ninety five percent of the black vote. Hillary Clinton had eight percent. Only had eight percent of the black vote and it's like people are saying. Hey Donald trump do this for black students. The black seeds for blocks right voter base. Out of all the the the the five major race categories, he stopped the lowest support from the block to weird, but now all of the sudden. The black community is demand and trump. Do this for them. When they need to support him in his his presidential campaign, only eight percent so the people that they should be saying do this and do that for black people should have been an a ministration where he had ninety five percent. Lower. The mainstream lewd didn't criticize to walk Obama from the time he got into office and. That's a very. edified note you know if you're if you were running for office and you only got. Ankle Senate of something, but the same eight percent. People depend you to do something before you probably know, but. Here's my only only my this is my only opposing. Part of it real quick. Wouldn't you want your approval rating or your percentage of black voters to grow? If you were just like if you were to say? Is We're going to do something about this. Because you gotta say, you got to remember I understand Obama had ninety five percent of the black vote, which is yes, that's true and it was amazing thing, but at the same time and I understand you know we could argue all day tower blue in the face whether or not he did anything for the black community, but when it comes to trump and. And him only having eight percent, and how badly he wants that black vote the last the first thing he needs to be doing is be listening to the black lives. Matter of movement. Listening to let's let's let's put out. Black lives matter moving to push it to the side. Just the protesters, the general public that is sitting there saying we want changing. We want change now if he was to. A whole lot if he wasn't a lesson happening if he was. If you sit there and listen to those people and actually say I'm willing to listen. I'm willing to talk about these things. I'm willing to try to make things change. Do you realize that his black vote percentage would go up so in fact I would help him for his next election. You see what I'm saying. So I know what you're saying like. If he's going to sit there and go, I don't give a damn about the ninety two percent voters that chose what kind of leader he is. Out. That's what I what I said He. Asked to that would be what you would do now. Yes, completely on the complete opposite now the thing about the third, the the the black lives all these bleached up. This stuff happens Democrat city. That's what black people rely on that. Black people majority ANC percent of black people living. City. RUN BY DEMOCRAT? Though the people that you need to be forces of black lives down their throat is Democrat, any New York Minneapolis. Democrat run cities. Don't have no power, no cities. They'll have nothing to do with those. Folks if you're gonNa cry, and you vote for police fleeing mayor, and all this other stuff that affect your community and your community disaffected negatively. Then you blaming all. GonNa do that sounds right. That's the definition of insanity. Bill that one Republican that was don't buy this. You know what I'm saying here. That are black people, but then. Phone House. And and so so visit the delusion that Democrat. Kebob. It's projection. If you you you blame people for what you got to say, yes, so that's that's that's my point is like the is the all trump pumpkin. Reversed that when you talk about criminal justice reform took those those racist. If you WANNA call it races. Because it's easy, it would be racist, but if he took does disparaging. policies and he. Obliterated them. Okay, but people tell us all. You can say what you what else you want him to do. For eight percent of about what else do you want him to do? He's got. He's got ninety two. percent of essential there you gotta deal with. It. Is. Forum yesterday he added my people on it, but y'all probably watch it I'll probably think they were talking about capitalism. In that form every time, he has a four with black people. All they do is talk about capitalism. He's. been on the news so many times in the United States will not in his. Address, he said the United States will not become a socialist country. Ever they put the camera all Bernie Sanders. Tom. Will his about ready to oh? This is real. This stuff is going on AOL. She's Alson and the reason why. I'm not thinking angrily yet. The reason why I speak like that just because there's so much information historically. Yes, but the thing I do that. You guys do not know and I'm trying to. CARE OF V. Ten or fifteen minutes home hall. I'm trying to get you. Do do the research for yourself. I'm not fair believes move. And I understand that. Enemy. Wrong. Enemy I understand that, but here it is known in this. It's fine here. It is though you know this is the whole point like you have your drastically different opinions than me or or Tom or anyone else, but we're not patronizing. We're not trying to talk down not trying to punch down at you or anyone else, so we try to keep. These phone lines open with positively. You know that's that's my dog right there. You Know I. Don't like you trying to mimic my my boy here. Tom Like that's that's my boy and second I'm always here. To listen doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with you and that's. That's the whole point you know, but I appreciate you giving us information and talking about those things because that's what we need. We need to have those conversations and we want. Want to be have our. Our minds opened up at least mine. You know I'm all aren't going. Hey, I need more stuff, but I'm going to open I'm going to get off the phone now because we need to get need to get these guys back on to talk about all of this that we just talked about okay and thank you so much. I appreciate it. I'M GONNA. Hang up right now. Real quick it. Make it ver ten seconds go. Hey sit out by my to channel I got through stuff on there that that I'll start posting, but I got a couple things that that might be of interest to you. Okay, it's under the same thing thing mogul. Just check it out. Because? It's really. You know for information that I'll. Play and Bam. You know. FIGURED OUT, enemy! Thank you talk to you soon piece. Look. Right guys back at it. Anyway. All, right guys so. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts I'm throwing it over to you guys because I've already said my piece so go. Well with all due respect, we disagree. We have a different world view on some of this stuff. I don't think socialism is all that bad and me. Nation seems to think it's the end all be all of everything. I. I don't know. I. I. I don't know I'm white. I. I! Don't know what to tell you. We have a disagreement. We're we're probably not. GonNa! You're not GonNa get me over on your side I'm not going to get your on your side. So. that. That's kind of where I am on that. I do think. It's no accident. That trump has to keep coming out and showing his bona fides on how he's not a racist I mean I just want to reiterate the guy's. History he made his. He made his made his money. In the seventies, discriminating against black people in housing, he bandied about the the. The conspiracy theory that Barack, Obama the first black president, United States wasn't even an American and he was born in Kenya. There's a track record here that shows Donald. Trump has some troubling views on race. And if he's a capitalist if he wants to help, black people lift them up by their bootstraps. Through capitalism fine I. You know I don't know. I don't I. Don't know what to make of that, but. Personally I think socialism and we were talking yesterday about Martin Luther King his views on capitalism vs socialism. Since from Sixteen nineteen until the present day, there have been systemic roadblocks. That have been put up to keep black people from accruing wealth, and that's something that's happened on both sides of the aisle. Democrats have done that Republicans have done that. I tend to agree a little bit with Martin Luther King Socialism should be something we look at. That, redistribution of wealth should be something we look at because thirteen percent of this population's ancestors weren't allowed to accrue. And I think there. And I-. Capitalism isn't going to do that. Form Socialism all. Enemy nation is wrong or isn't entitled to. His opinion is saying I have a different viewpoint on this. But you're my boy and I. Don't think we're going to come to an agreement. Right and that's okay I don't think he's a bad guy. No No, and that's the thing. No one is a bad for speaking their minds, and here it is. He's challenging us. He's challenging the show so I embrace it as much as I possibly can. because. Honestly there's a lot of times. He says things and I'm like Oh. Let me look this up. Let me take a look at it myself and to see in assess for myself, but at the same time. It still doesn't sway me. You know it's still hasn't swayed my opinions about certain things. If I if I in my heart or hearts feel that trump is no way shape or form trying to show that he is literally here for the black people. For the black community, and trying to help with this whole situation of trying to restructure this systemic racism that exists right now. Or has been existing I'm sorry. Then I'll signs and all roads point to one thing and one thing only. Is Not a president. For me. He's not and I don't care what he's done. You know maybe he. He had some things that he had some quotas to do so he can show to the black community. Hey, I'm with you guys someone to do all these things for real quick, but as soon as the everybody's going well, these people have died. Innocent people died. This is the world is on fire. Everyone's angry. He's still looking the other way then. He's also doing this thing on June eighteenth I. Don't get it to me. It just doesn't make any sense. We gotta talk about this black. Wall, Street real quick, you know. Do you. Did you guys happen to look that up at all? A little bit of a explanation or a little bit backstory behind that as well. I was listening to enemy nation. I didn't get a chance to. No worries, no worries. No worries we'll, we'll get into it. I I mean. I know! Interest rate. You got what say that I mean we could have a whole. Conversation about Black Wall. Street for an entire show. Right exactly right? It's dividend. Got On the show here today I don't think that we can dive into it. We've got ten minutes. It's five I mean. We got four minutes one to. Know anything about the race. Massacre and Black Wall Street right I, just don't. You know I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be able to summarize it in ten minutes and be four minute dive into the whole, capitalist versus socialist thing that enemy was on. You know. I don't know how much that really enters into these these were. Your black people in America, trying to make an honest go of it through capitalism, and they were killed, and add their homes and businesses. Burn for doing so so imagine you know when that happens to you. When you try playing a game of capitalism, I can see why socialism would be an enticing alternative. Right so anyway. You know. Okay, so here it is you know we. We will most definitely. Look up those things you know. And obviously he put in a lot of questions. And I guess it was bad timing, because obviously, the show is going to have to wrap up the show here in about three minutes literally. But At the same time we can definitely talk about this as a full on discussion. In the next. On the next show for sure. But the. Saints some stoop. So, anyway. I think that's like all the same account. Different person that multiple accounts. Coming in here and just rolling on the comments. Paying. Your your your viewpoint, who but enemy nation I appreciate his point, absolutely no and bring it up. He didn't say he doesn't want us to. You know he's not asking us to change our opinion. He's trying to bring some facts and just more stuff to the table i. do hope that if he's trying to plug. Is You do, but he's plugging us on his. Go there. and all. These brought up the percentage of black votes multiple times when he's called in. And I didn't know that you know just because if you get a small percentage of a black votes for a president that that you're still not allowed to demand or wanting to demand change from that president. I didn't know that the now still supposed to support the entire American community That's what I feel like. It's like when he's saying there shouldn't be. Able to demand from the people that were the lowest percentage of voters for the President that that feels weird to say I mean that's I don't know. But we can dive and all that stuff on the next show. I mean there's plenty of stuff to go into a Black Wall Street. I mean there's a lot of people were killed. A lot of people are injured and for supporting. was purely the community going in killing over three hundred people injuring eight hundred people because there was a report that a black man tried to rape, somebody, a white woman, and so the entire we went in, and then burned down by blocks the so there's a lot talk about their. The whole thing. It is a very deep deep thing. That can go on and on and on and on, and of course we will definitely be talking about this. Either in tonight show or on the next. Morning show that we have. For sure because like I said you know there is. There's a lot to talk about in regards to that, and then you know you talked about black. Wall Street, but then, of course it's like. June eighteenth. Having the trump going in to Tulsa. Doing his whole. Campaign rally there onto nineteenth to me. Does. Not seem like he cares. To me. It seems like he's trying to give us. Trying to give the black community. And Black Lives Matter Movement. The Middle Finger. That's what I personally think. But. That's the thing you know what I mean. And here it is enemy, said something, and I just wanted to read this really quick before we end up. Wrapping up here because it is eleven thirty, he said I never once asked you guys to change your opinion about anything I just fact. Check what I said. What I say and that's absolutely right. We get we get what you're saying. We're going to fact check. We're GONNA. Look those things up, and like I said you know here it is. We are learning on this show. You know like I understand that you guys. There's a lot of guys out there. That are Rolodex of information that they are encyclopedia Britannica deep cut of of just. Information in regards to politics and history, and all that you know personally I'm not sitting here. Saying than I am a prolific in the world of you know history of of all levels I know I. Know My my I know a good portion of black history, but there's still some black history that I still am learning every single day about. Like I, said I'm just not a walking. Time Capsule of information, and that's the same thing I say to the guys as well. You know I could I could speak on behalf of the the to the other two but like I, said we're learning about these things, and talking about these things and tapping on these things as we go, and yes, there are times when we're on the show that my opinion has changed because of fact, checking fact, checking or looking certain things up and we will continue to do so. You know that's what this show. Show is all about, but anyway we gotta get going guys. Unfortunately, it's eleven thirty one and it's. We're a little bit going a little bit over time so I. Really appreciate everybody being on the show today I really appreciate it. You know everybody who has been commenting. Being a part of the conversation was up lacks paint was up Chris Collins on on facebook I. appreciate everybody. Tuning in you know now now starting to. Get. We we're. We're starting to get. More. People coming in and commenting, but we gotta get going. And of course you know that's the thing you know people. There's always going to be heated debates. No matter what doesn't matter out is is just what it is. Secondhand biker! Thank you so much with grain. What up, man, thank you so much for being on the show and passionately. Commenting down below, appreciate it, but anyway we got to get going Tom Jack. Thank you so much for being on the show I. Really really appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, you know like I said. We are in this world where we are. Learning as we go there are some things that we don't know that we learn what we do. The show live, and that's the whole point of this show so appreciate everybody. y'All stay safe I will be on a later on this evening. Friday nights so be sure to tune in. We'll be continuing the conversations and having more good times, and all that stuff. I love everybody love all your faces be good yourselves. Be Good at one another have a safe and wonderful weekend if I don't see you guys, but be sure to tune in, be as albion throughout the weekend. 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ConservaKids, Feat. Alex Pareene

Fever Dreams

54:17 min | 3 months ago

ConservaKids, Feat. Alex Pareene

"Hi welcome to fever dreams My name's will summer political reporter at the daily beast and the author of an upcoming book on cunanan for harpercollins. And i must win to tang but please swin. I'm a senior political reporter at the daily beast and co author of the book sinking in the swamp. All right here on fever dreams. we're gonna take you on plunges. Into the sometimes larry and sometimes scary world of the american rights as they continue to influence politics. Even in the aftermath of the trump administration the energy of these conspiracy theorists griff tres and these influencers is still pushing or mainstream political landscape closer and closer to a breaking point. So will i think you have found a new investment opportunity for us and our listeners parody. that's a joke. Don't invest in. This will help a little bit of it. Well i wouldn't be so quick to say that's when okay so the deal you know it depends on your risk tolerance okay so the back story here is that i just consume just massive amounts of right wing media in particularly telegram which is where all the real action goes down now. This is kind of this. Is off brand social media network and so just like huge funnel right in my brain. I was recently. I said to my wife recently. I was watching some olympians. Get excited and they're doing the soy face and she said you know they've really messed up your brain anyways so i noticed there's basically there's this new thing now called the cunanan coin and this is not the i q and non branded coin in fact not the person i reported on. Isn't there like a cunanan bitcoin as well. That's a great question. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a cute on crypto currency. And if so if you know about a contact me on twitter but in this case there's this cunanan coin and it has a q. Over an american flag and it says where we go on we go all. But what i think is interesting here. Let me just read description for you. Finally the forbidden and coin is released on market. And it's not known for how long this made democrats angry lie because the coins price is expected to skyrocket over two thousand dollars when trump is back in office so this is like an investment opportunity right or being pitched that way. Something i enjoy about. This description is basically what they're saying whether intentionally not as people who support democracy are going to hate this coin. This one fascist trick infuriates democracy supporters. Okay so it's like ha ha so the cunanan corden cells right thirty bucks. It's impossible to know if anyone how people are buying the on coin. Whatever but i think what's interesting here is that we're seeing the continuation of the the ancient craft. Now that we saw originally with iraqi dinars of something that is practically worthless and only selling it to people at a markup and saying well actually this is going to be worth. Show much money in the future and we're all going to be fabulously wealthy and obviously this is. There's just so many so much. Rift like this going on on telegram in particular because all the cunanan people were kicked off twitter and facebook and are now on telegram. And it is like. I don't know if it's like baby. Turtles getting picked off by vultures on the but like they've been pushed out into this world and they're totally defenseless and the drifters are swooping in. Because i mean the cunanan believers have already shown that there are huge marks right. So there's the guy who's like send me all your money and invest in bitcoin for us posing as jfk junior. and obviously. He's just taking the money. There's a trump coin that will also exploded in value. So so i think the cunard. The forbidden queuing on coins sort of gives us a glimpse into this This crypt market. So who's behind this. do we know. Oh we'll never know i mean it's some brave financier. I would assume so. Is there any intersection between cunanan coin market and the iraqi dinar scan market. Either a major nexus between the two. I mean for for those who aren't familiar of really one of the touchstones of this podcast and one of one of our origin stories. I mean iraqi dinar after the gulf first gulf war was totally worthless currency and the idea has been outside of iraq and so basically you sell it to americans for a huge markup and say well actually what's going to happen is trump in this case is going to revalue the iraqi diener and if you were smart enough to invest in this currency that was worth a fraction of a penny thousands dollars into it for example. You'll get one hundred million dollars in return when this happens and so you have these communities of people who are sort of obsessed with this moment known as the revalue and they get very focused on it and obviously you know they're waiting for nothing is not going to happen and so people get indicted over this scam all this kind of stuff. I just think it's interesting. The griff that really under that fuel so much on the right is a theme of our podcast. And so i just think the cunanan coin is the latest example of that. And so maybe someday someone will tip you and cunanan coin and you can hang onto that. I'm looking at the photo of it right now. I gotta admit it kind of looks cool and it has a gigantic q. On it superimposed. On sort of an american flag and i just think that if that were the original design of the quarter that'd be much cooler. Just be out. Well it will be out the storm i mean. I think this is a great thing that you can pay for. You can use to buy your freedom phone and then you can really just sort of enter this whole separate. Realm are at swin. You've been out west. You've been out with the little doggies even wearing your cowboy hat you've been hanging out with the libertarians. What have you been up to in south dakota okay. Well as some of our listeners may know my wife is an editor and reporter at reason magazine and co founder of this. Nonprofit group called feminists for liberty so she was speaking at this annual conference called freedom. Fest which is usually held in las vegas but this year it was moved to south dakota specifically in rapid city which is about thirty minutes from out rushmore. And as you can probably guess this had to do with the state's incredibly lax or virtually nonexistent this rocks. They're like nevada. Tried to keep people from dying. That's not libertarian. We're outta here. Credibly lackluster kovic restrictions and response of among other people governor christie gnome. This libertarian slash. Conservative conference was moved there for this year. So i being someone who really knows how to invest in his free time took some vacation days from the daily beast. So i could follow my. Es fever dreams. Freedom fest correspondent exactly and i was mostly just to hang out and just be cheerleader for my wife and her work just won't be very clear to our listeners that my wife is not a does not share the views of a lot people at this conference. She's not an antibiotic baxter or a kovin skeptic. She certainly not a supporter of anybody. Like governor. no more anything like that so needs to tweet at me about this but anyway even though it does emphasize the libertarian streak of the attendees and of the speakers of the conference organizers they of course do cater to the conservative element that does at annually attend this. As if they're like freedom fest groupies which means you're going to have speakers and honored guests including people like james o'keefe obviously governor christie gnomes fan favorites like senator. Mike lee dave rubin. Because of course. And why. Not and dennis quaid whose politics i think a little bit harder to nail down than that of his brother. Randy quaid who is just like an aggressively pro-trump conspiracy theorist dennis quaid sent something akin to a welcome video. So thank you mr quaid. I think he's more of a libertarian of sorts and so when you roaming the halls and the exhibit halls of a place like freedom fest. It's a little bit different than when we send someone like will summer out into the wild because the conferences you frequent at the most left wing something like cpi and then and then to the right of that cunanan conferences that you go to. It is very clear. What kind of attendee. You're going to get there. There's no mystery about it whatsoever but here a little bit different you. You have a mixed of more left. Libertarians and more heart right ones and different atheist groups different gold as currency groups. And i could go on and on and on. But i think what really underscored it for me. The most is more people you spoke to a lot of them seem like aggressively normally at first. They they seem like your parents or grandparents who would own like a really nice mobile home but then as you get more and more conversation there's too many people who are enthusiastic of pivoting objects of gas start buying up arms. because yeah we're gonna hopefully. We're going to beat them ballot box. But they they're not defining exactly who they are. Maybe one day we're going to have to quash them in a civil war you have people who were even just chatting with me about attendance of libertarian. Feminism and then all of a sudden other talking about how the feds come to my door to try to get my unvaccinated ass. I know exactly what i'm gonna do. Just gonna tell him to fuck off and don't let the alligator bite you on the way out. Yeah i mean what is the mood there in the post trump era. Well that's the thing. During the trump era there were moments where some conference organizers and people who regularly attended didn't like some of the direction they were going in. I think a year or two ago. Candice owens was invited as marquee speaker. There's nothing libertarian. About someone like candice owens at all. This was just like a sop to the pro-trump right. That was obviously incorporated into conferences. Like this over the past four years or so but the mood was trump's name was not plastered over it. Nearly as much as you'd see at a place like cpac it wasn't absent but the was sort of this error about like okay. What do we do now. Who is our shining star into libertarian. Conservative nexus and one of them was of course governor christie nome who has been sort of batted bad as a name in perspective. Twenty twenty four republican circles. She was one of the key speakers at the conference and she was self aware enough to make the point to tell. The crowd of mostly libertarian or libertarian-leaning republicans that basically nobody at this conference. Knew who the hell she was until the quote unquote liberal media started attacking her for her. You guessed it corona virus policies and response over the past year and a half or so. You know obviously got moved to south dakota because kovic rules i mean. Would you say like the main thing going on right now with the libertarians is cove itself. It certainly was a major part of the conference. Which i don't think is going to surprise too much of our audience known when she is onstage. She said quote were kind of a laid back crew. Here in south dakota. Have you noticed that we're just normal. Everyday people who appreciate a wonderful way of life and quote this is coming from a governor who has presided over a corona virus death rate interstate which has a much smaller population as compared to other states in the union. That has been. I think what many of us would call dismal. So i think having a laid back crew even in the context of national national emergency was certainly part of the ethos there. I have two questions about libertarians. Right number one. did you see. They're known for their style. Did you see any cool outfits. Any leather fidora's that kind of stuff surprisingly no if you went to a party hosted by the cato institute in washington dc. I think there would have been more of that. But this is disturbing to me the norfolk ation of of libertarian. This is more disturbing to me than like the mainstream of cunanan or something. This is ominous. Well the thing is if you're in a place like new york city. Washington dc libertarian. Especially a small l libertarian. Is going to be a lot different than in other parts of the country. I'll never forget those. This one person who works in libertarian media politics who told me that years ago when he was at a major. A multi-state libertarian organization. He was getting his training in washington. Dc this guy who you're in washington dc is exactly what you'd expect of someone who is in that kind of libertarians. Do antidrug war criminal. Justice reform wants to end all the wars that the us involved with like very very normal libertarian. Stuff if i recall his story correctly. He said that his supervisor specifically told him okay. You're going to go out into the wild into different states. Like south dakota to raise money and when you're doing that to speak the language of a libertarian who is not based in washington dc. You gotta watch. Alex jones like that might sound crazy. And far out you but takes time solo down with some popcorn or cocktail at your laptop and fire up at least an hour or so of alex jones day for a period of time just so you can internalize the principles and the rhetoric of what you own counter when you see libertarians as they truly are in the vast middle and elsewhere in the united states. They are not going to sound like justin amash. So my other question for libertarians are known for their love of consuming colloidal. Silver a substance that among other things turns your skin blue. Did you see any any people with blue skin except for myself. Who is a big fan of that regimen. No absolutely not. As i said there were a lot of families and older and elderly people there who again just seem like they just don't want to be told what vaccines to take and want their taxes low. I have to say. I was expecting a wild or crowd. It was not nearly the kind of like raging lustful crew that you would expect at a place like a cpac so obviously. Libertarians are also known for their comedy. Swin did you see any great comics there. And what is passing through. Libertarian comedy these days okay. Are you familiar with this guy named comic dave smith you know what was the comic. Dave smith is guy who fancies himself. A premier libertarian comic. I have to be honest. i've heard about him. I've heard other libertarians. Complain about him online but he's not someone who's comedy i've ever taken time to sit down and consume or checkout is set on youtube. He had a few different sets at freedom fast. Twenty twenty one. But the one i saw was that this gala style dinner on the closing saturday night event where he took to the stage was kind of warming up crowd. Four among other people senator. Mike lee so he gets up there and he does something. I've never seen a comedian. Doodoo crowd before he confesses something to the effect of. He hasn't actually prepare that much because he's been doing so many events here so he's not really sure what he wants to talk about so he goes off on this tangent about how there was this one time where he was freaking out because he got a hotel room and he wasn't sure if he was going to have to share a bed with his male colleague. So there's a little bit of like homoerotic panic to his alleged humor here and then the whole bit was about requesting a cut from the front desk so they wouldn't have to like spoon together in the same bed and he kept referring to the people who brought the cot to his room as the mexican or the mexican shoots and weird thing was i was sitting there with my wife and other people at the table and we expected that to be set up to something. Okay like there has to be a reason. He's mentioning the nationality or the alleged nationality of this hotel employees. And no you just said like several different times. Oh yeah and then the mexicans said oh and then and then the here's the thing about the he's like i gotta get this frigging hot. I can't share with this guy. I crosses lavon the proud which would be prime for. This was not having it. They were like why is this guy talking about cots and mexicans. This libertarian dan nine yes yes absolutely except dan. Nina is way funnier than this. Because i kept thinking okay. This has to be a setup for a punchline even if the punchline is racist or it sucks that'd be something it just did not go like like wasn't an actual joke and then he pivoted from that as soon after talking about joe biden. I was like okay. Okay here we go here we go. He's a libertarian. Or conservative comedian. You're talking about joe biden. He's gonna make a bunch of sleepy joe type jokes. It's like shooting fish barrel. This is going to be incredibly easy. There's probably gonna be some like ablest or ages stuff in there about joe biden's brain. Maybe he can get a laugh or two of the this. He just doesn't stick the landing he just says yeah. The way he talks it's It's kind of weird. And i'm so glad you brought the name in comparison because for listeners. Listen to a clip of him next sedan. Nine it's actually a very similar halting and kind of like. I'm not sure where the exits are in this room kind of delivery to this comedy and it's just baffling. I started just racking up at the table because it was just so morbidly non funny that i just couldn't help but start laughing hysterically which i started to think to myself. Maybe that's the magic to his art. And maybe i'm the sucker here. Maybe it's just brilliant anti comedy. The joke is on. You know this is stuff man. Well thank you for the libertarian. Comedy scene report so we'll as the january six mission on capitol hill actually kind of starts get underway. You've been tracking very closely the canonization of january six riders. This happening a lot on the right and not in the fringes. Not just in the fever swamps quite a bit close to or directly in the conservative mainstream. Can you tell us a little bit of some of the tricks that some of these republicans on capitol hill or trying to pool to try to hold these people up as a mortars and as democrats as the desecrators of their sacrifice. Yes so this is kind of our january six update. Obviously the january six commissioners kicking off republicans are trying to counter program. That matt gaetz and marjorie taylor. Green protests outside the justice department. And so what's going on. Here is something that struck me as interesting while the vast majority of the riot suspects have been released from jail pending trial. Some of the worst of the worst people who facing the most serious charges are still in jail. And they've kind of taken on this sainthood on the right and are becoming reminded me nothing like as much as like the irish republican army sanctifying. Its people in prison. They're calling them like the one sixers and this kind of stuff. And so we're seeing this kind of coordinated effort to make these guys out to be innocent patriots who were simply who've been kind of taken on you know who are being unfairly prosecuted by the justice department simply because they love trump and free elections. Okay so obviously. Matt gaetz is having a prominent role in this. What is he been up to this week. What is he spearheading. Yes so he's he's rallying with marga green and paul gosar louie gohmert kind of the arose gallery and these guys becoming very fixated on how the prisoners being treated in dc jail. Now obviously not gonna come out and tell you the jail is the nicest place. Spend your time these tales. These defense attorneys have been telling very lurid tales of what's going on in the jail. They're claiming that guards are taking the january six prisoners out one by one and beating them up sometimes with help from other prisoners. That one guy was like my clients hands fell down and everyone was laughing at him while he was getting beaten up and the line. That's coming out especially on one. America news newsmax is. They're saying this is worse than guantanamo bay. Which is odd. Because like these guys were like puerto guantanamo. It's a little odd to to be like that place is messed up and either. This is worse than abu ghraib as well. This idea that these guys are being subjected to these like medieval tortures and that this is becoming really like a very animating. 'cause i'm we're the abuses at gitmo and abu ghraib were meticulously document. There is a lot of evidence you can have slammed down. If you want to make the claim that there were horrific abuses. There are these defense. Attorney is providing any Photos indirect evidence Like evidence of bruising or bleeding like is there anything like no have. They said why they haven't providing evidence because if this is going on it is a horrific abuse that whatever the prisoners did. You can't do that right. Yeah they really haven't offered any evidence of that. i mean. i asked the attorneys. Who was kind of this interview with newsmax in podcast favorite. Greg kelly where a lot of these came out these allegations of like basically torture chambers inside the jail and the attorney did not get back to me. He hasn't entered this. And the court record making this claim and so but nevertheless i mean this has been embraced by congressional republicans and a lot of right wing media at the same time they're also having these rallies and the rally they had a rally outside the d. c. jail two weeks ago they're having another rally and a lot of these rallies are kind of feature the flotsam leftover from the election fraud movement. And so like. There's guys who like sydney powell is now pivoting to being a rescue the prisoners person and so they had this rally and they read out letters from the inmates and they're really liked boys. Like how do we end up here. And so the one guy had his letter that i loved and he said we're just regular freedom loving americans with a tendency towards humorous shenanigans Humor shenanigans. did they stipulate what they defined as humorous shenanigans the ultimate should and again. You know beating up cops or whatever and obviously this is part of the same kind of martyrdom candidates thing. We're seeing with ashley babbitt and really part of this whole effort to really rewrite the history of january six and so i should mention. We're getting there almost taking like little relics or little bits of their new saints and so the latest thing is this audio that came out that purports to be the prisoners singing the national anthem every night at nine pm. And it's this really scratchy audio. I was listening to in my wife and then another room asked if i was listening to footage of an extra system because it was it was just like screaming and obviously like a jailhouse recording is going to be best quality but it sounds terrible but people. I mean amy kremer. This republican activists who is involved in the rally that preceded the riot. She's at oh this is so sad. Broken heart emoji. So we're seeing kind of all these personality aspects. Come out about the prisoner and this idea that they are political. Prisoners is the phrase that keeps being repeated over and over as anybody made the nelson mandela comparison yet like is there a particular quote unquote political prisoner. Here they're holding up as the nelson mandela of the january sixth movement. There's a gentleman who was supposedly had his eye injured during one of these beatings again. That hasn't been made clear and yet the idea that his i was injured has now transformed into his. I popped out. This is a guy who supposedly can if female police officer by throwing her down the downstairs. This guy's a history of beating up women allegedly in the past. And so this guy. Ryan sam soul is becoming one of the main characters. But but really i mean all of these inmates obviously the q. Shaman is a big one the q. And on people in particular have embraced him. Although i can tell you that when i was out in arizona cunanan people were getting a little irritated with his lawyer. Who famously said that. These are short bus people and they were saying that his lawyer is sort of getting in the way of the making him. This smarter because they're getting a little irritated with the lawyers saying that they're short bus. People fever dreams like all daily beast. Journalism exists because of the generous support of beasts inside members the people who pay to access daily beast reporting and who are quite frankly our favorite people in the face of the planet want to get in on all the action join now and get unlimited access to be supporting plus access to members only podcast episodes events and much more head to fever dreams dot the daily beast dot com today to see what you've been missing. This week's guest is alex. Kareem staff writer at the new republic in his years opining and blogging at various new sites including salon. Dot com and dr. Alex's emerge is one of the absolute funniest opinion writers on the left at times. he's also proven to be one of the most scarily prophetic. You didn't find alex on twitter at parite. Alex welcome to fever drains. Thank you so much for having me anytime. One thing we want to ask you about was. Dig into some of your. Most recent writing new republic word seems over the voice of at least three articles. Recently there's been a similar thing. The theme being the democrats and the centre-left today in this country are particularly atrocious at propaganda. Especially when you compare it to the mainstream and trumpian right in modern american politics. Can you explain to our listeners. Why you think that is and how big a problem. Yeah sure and you know. I like to use the word propaganda intentionally. A bit provocative. Right and i use it because there's always a lot of discussion about how democrats are bad at messaging. I find messaging to be not a particularly useful way of looking at the issue of how americans receive political information who they're hearing from what arguments they're hearing. If you focus a lot on the right wing in this country you know that. The right wing. Messaging apparatus is a giant propaganda oregon. It's not necessarily entirely top down driven but to a large extent. It is organized. In a lot of money goes into sending out these right wing narratives on the other side of it we when we talked about democratic messaging. A lot of it is like are they saying the right thing starting basically after the two thousand twenty election it seemed to me. Are they saying the right thing seemed to the wrong question to ask. And it's a question of of doesn't matter what they're saying if it's mediated through either on the one hand the right wing propaganda machine or on the other hand the corporate media and for a long time democrats. I think have relied on the mainstream media primarily television news but obviously also you know the new york times and the washington post. They've relied on them to be the faithful carriers of their message. But that's not the that's not the mainstream news job and being in the media and being in the liberal media. The sort of ideologically left of center media. You know i've seen a lot of right wing or spend a lot of money supporting right wing media that doesn't make a profit on its own and i've seen a lot of left of centre. Rich people only decide to support journalism. If if they believe it can stand on its own as a profitable business. So that's sort of what has led me to this recent discussion of liberal propaganda or the lack thereof. This is what was been called the hack gap right you know. I was struck recently. I don't know if y'all are deep enough in this this mess to see this but the big thing over the weekend in the past couple of days has been taking this audio of biden where it's a little unclear what he said and then they say he said i wiped but and like distasteful stuff but like this is like all over this was on dan. Bongino show You know i was hearing about it from conservatives my own life and this is obviously just fake nonsense but that you have this whole apparatus just pushing just like absolute crap out all the time. Yeah oh exactly like it was floating around on twitter but there was basically a chart of like media mentions of antifa and it was like it peaked and then it went away. It was like clearly like this. This stuff is just like it's not even just that it's a top down directive but it's just that like their machine is a jain echo chamber that amplifies whatever message they want to talk about at any given moment absolutely and speaking one of those topics that they really really really want to amplify right now not just as a conservative movement and media but as a political party you've written at tr recently a piece headlined avoiding unpopular issues. Doesn't make them go away. And then you write how. It's politically savvy for democrats to avoid waiting into the critical race theory culture war. It's also a dereliction of duty. Tell us more about what you mean by that. And the distinction between how it's politically savvy but also a detriment to why there are supposed to be there. Yes sure and it's my response to i think a sort of vulgar version of the popularism argument which is sort of the the liberal side has been arguing about this for a while the david shore his version of it is a little bit more complex but basically like vulgar version is like only talk about things that are already popular that poll well and so what that doesn't take into account is at the other side has the ability to create issues from essentially nothing and make them unpopular and so if your political strategy is i will simply not talk about things that are controversial. You have to account for the fact that your opponents can make anything controversial. They can create controversy. That is what is that is what they have been doing to you for decades now and where that leads you can say all right. Here's the savvy part of it. Yeah it's probably best of joe biden is not going on tv every day and saying look. I love critical race. Theory come on cut the crap that would be awesome. It would be awesome. I would be thrilled if you did that. If came out and was like recent kimberly crenshaw all right man. I would enjoy that quite a bit but we know we know he's not going to do that. And we know that part of the reason he's been politically successful recently is that he doesn't the white house. And joe biden. Don't wait into what they see as cultural issues very often but on the ground what does it look like on the ground on the ground. That looks like states passing bills that are attacking the freedom of speech of educators. Both in the sort of under though college level and the elementary and high school level bills saying what can and can't be taught to students bill saying what arguments kids are allowed to hear. And then ended also has been organizing. You know the right has been organizing again. They as they have been doing for many decades. Now they've been organizing hyper local level to take over school boards and things like that to abandon. The unpopular cultural issue is to abandon the political fight at that level at the local level at the ground level. So we can say yes when you're running an election campaign focus on the kitchen table issues. Sure if that's a political winner but at some point you have to actually fight back when these things go from simply a a talk radio controversy to actually a political things happening on the ground. That's an interesting point when you bring up like the conservative media propaganda organs and ground zero that even now in so many ways talk radio and extensions of it. Why do you think it was that liberals were so bad at getting in on that market. They tried there was a period of time or a decade or so where they tried to get the air. America's and that ilk into that game it just fell completely flat like the tens of millions of listeners and potential dr knees that are hyper focused in that market. Just did not go for it. Yeah i have a lot of theories about that. None of them are i will. I will not claiming either meticularly. Well thought out right there. You're just sort of like off the top of my head. I think on the one hand like who went talk. Radio becomes a right wing thing. You have to understand that like it's not. I don't think we're just getting the sort of pure revealed preferences of the people i think. To some extent it's station owners wanted to put on the air. What messages they wanted to highlight and they didn't want on the air. And also you know liberals this has been especially true more and more as the sort of education gap has widened over the last few decades liberals want to listen to college educated white liberal. Who are the affluent audience. That i think a prophet seeking talk radio station would want they want npr. They don't they didn't want air america. I mean there was an audience for some of air. America fell apart for lots of other reasons. When you have college educated well off liberals they want to listen to the sort of biased and objective news and when you have the conservative audience with money to spend like they wanted rush limbaugh for years and years and now they now they wanted this other stuff. So i think it's it's sort of in that sort of demographic part of it and then pretty hard to get left wing messages through and this is my you know i'm gonna i'm just gonna go chomsky here. It's like it is legitimately hard to get left-wing messages through corporate media. The extent of it. You can get msnbc liberalism. Which is pretty damn inconsistent. That's one part of it. But you can talk about the the form of talk radio itself sort of being inviting that sort of feeding on like tv news feeding on like making people upset making people outrage of identifying an enemy in rallying your audience around the enemy like all those things are sort of inherent in the medium. Perhaps but i think that there's some vulgar marxist reasons for it as well do you have any current favorite talk. Radio hosts guys because obviously in the aftermath of russia's death. The whole scene has been kind of up ended. I who are the top guys right now. I don't even get mark. Levin man number one bestseller say i listen mark levin kind of the afternoon and i love this stuff but mark levin. I'm like why such a bad mood. And i'm just driving around and i'm listening to the mark levin just like that guy is just like rush. Limbaugh was like a nice of flute. Oh just nice to hear. He had such a rich voice. Mark levin not because i think the the medium like so many others become degraded i wrote a little bit about russia three died but that was a remarkable thing about him was that like i saw the first time i heard rush i had pretty liberal parents but not particularly liberal grandparents and i was like in driving around my grandpa put on rush and i was like what the hell is this but you had to give the man credit for like his ability as a broadcaster right he had the voice he could keep you occupied for three hours or however long show was and i i don't even know how people listen to the new crop of guys like the new crop of guys are like just whiny and annoying in a way he wasn't yeah i mean he truly did have talent on loan from god so one years i keep going back to something you wrote for splinter in the aftermath of charlottesville which was that what people need to under you know if i can paraphrase your argument here it was that people need to understand that the guys in charlottesville in these kind of like alright or alright verging young people with basically the future of the republican party because every normal young person wanted nothing to do with the gop. How do you think that is played out in the years since then madison. Cawthorn congress I i wrote a follow for tr. After some of the reporting but catherine's background came out and basically may follow. Up was i was right. See for our audience who may not remember this piece. We didn't read it. Can you explain to them. What you meant by charlottesville was a preview of the future of the republican party because there there might be some of our listeners. Who think to themselves well yeah. Trump's bungling response in the aftermath was atrocity. But there is a difference between him and someone who holds a tiki torch and does scream about the jews. Not replacing us. Yeah sure so. What happened was if you don't remember some of the reporting after that there was looking into the The all writers marching in charlottesville. You know a bunch of them happened to be identified as members of or even leaders of college republican chapters at colleges around the country. So you had a bunch of college. Republicans air and including some. Who were feuding with this sort of establishment. Republicans other colleges and things like that but my argument was that basically the youth recruitment arm of the conservative movement. Right now years ago the college republicans were pretty nasty bunch but they were like the sort of they were still sort of like the business clashes party right. They all became lyod waters and koro rose. Yeah exactly yeah but like at this point like four young people because the republican brand and conservativism. I think we're so discredited. There's such an age gap in our politics. That people Some maybe not your smart listeners. Some people think that's a natural fact of politics but it really isn't. It's in american politics. This is a pretty new development does massive age gap in our politics. So who are the young people who are still trying to conservatism. And what draws them to it in the era of donald trump. Why would a young person say the republican party. I wanna get involved in that. There's really only one reason and it's trumpism and in particular it's this the internet version of it. Which is entirely this toxic. The fortune based often crypto nazi like white nationalism and winking ironic white nationalism. That's the only appealing thing about conservatives to young people these days not the nice young people the polite way to put it is like the cultural war stuff and the politically incorrect stuff. Is what motivates them. Especially if you're in the mind of like an eighteen year old kid. Yeah and so my larger point was was that like what that means is and i'm not saying that this does not mean that like every young conservative is is that but the people who are most engaged in the people who will fill these roles in the conservative political pipeline. That will eventually feed the party. That was their entry into it. And that's going to be true now for years to come their entry into it. During the trump years was that world and these are the people who will be republican operatives and republican politicians for years to come because those are the ones who entered the formal party organizations during the trump years. And i think that like we're we are only beginning to grapple with that. And i think people think people think republicans there are people who think the republican party will return to normal. But it's hard to imagine that happening when like who we're going to be the future. Republicans what pool of people are they draw. Are they drawing from alex. You made the point. Or i should say you've made the point repeatedly that in terms of this not being something that can easily be diagnosed or brushed aside as liberal hysteria or wind paintings with a broad. Brush when you look at the youth part of this movement and you look at things like college. Republican organizations in the mainstream at major or ivy league institutions in america. Look at who. They are inviting to speak at their major or minor events. They're not going out of the way to give people like mary. Katharine ham the vip treatment. They're inviting people like milo. Yannopoulos is of the world. Maybe not so much anymore but that was a big thing for a while. They're going out of their way to show you what they're rhetorical and policy priorities are and what extreme sides taking in these sort of campus culture wars. I think that's exactly right and you can paint it in part as the impulse to trigger. The libs is in some sense. The very real driving factor for all of these things. But it's also a bit of a figleaf for like actually saying you know what we like. These guys and we endorse their views. As i as. I said when i wrote that piece a few years ago there was a national review writer who had actually made this point that i highlighted which is a college republicans kept doing this columbia college. Republicans columbia which is sort of place where we imagine the college republicans are literally just like wherever the modern day. Rockefeller republicans would end up. Like you would think it would be somewhere like. They're these are these are like rich kids with respectable parents and you know who were they like. Who are they do. Who are they giving speaking invites to mike sur. Which you know. That's the kind of person they were like. At peak pizza gate it was arnovitz with who the columbia college republicans wanted to hear from. They're telling you who they are with those kinds of things and a lot of the a lot of the entire sort of college speaker debate which is many speech debate cycles ago at this point was about people like as you said about people like milo but it was this game of saying who's the most horrid person we can think of with most objectionable views who can we invite to campus purely for the purpose of annoying the other side and i think it was pretty unintentionally revealing of why these people chose conservativism as sort of calling to begin with td january six in its aftermath Anytime during the twentieth election beyond guy like mattison cawthorn really underscore to you. It's like okay. This thesis has legs. My bleak worldview his tragically being vindicated over and over again Yeah i mean. I think what has been almost the thing that really showed. It has been the failure of the bipartisan commission. In a sense. Because i think that shows how unwilling sort of the establishment democrats are to accept my premise right. I think that there's this divide. And i've written about it a little bit but but like if you're a senator or an ex-senator and the republican you deal with on a daily basis are republican senators for the most part except for ted cruz. You're dealing with like the most professional people remaining in the republican party. Even if they're impossible to work with an extreme ideologically and and obstructing your entire agenda they still sound like the sort of reasonable republican senators that you would have dealt with twenty twenty five years ago just a few years ago. They were saying man. We got marco rubio the republican standard-bearer because at least for that time being he was saying we shouldn't throw every immigrant in america into a dungeon. Yeah exactly. There's an interesting contractor. Because i think house democrats have a much clearer idea of who dealing with because they have more of this new breed of republican there in the house. I mean you have house. Democrats like like aoc who were harassed and threatened by fellow members of the house. And i think that gives you a clearer idea. I think that some senior democrats want to imagine that the ones in the the crazy house nuts are the outliers and to me. They're just representative. Where the party is. Headed like marjorie taylor. Green and people like that alex to move on to something. That's at least a little bit less depressing to end the interview on that note. I'm assuming we have at least some listeners. Who are of the gaming rights contingent in america society. And you wrote aiming america. Exactly you wrote an illuminating. He's four the new republic recently headlined video games or a labor disaster teller audience. Why and why. This matters to them even if they don't game. Oh yes sure. So the piece i want to make sure that the pieces and party discussion of my former gawker media colleague jason trier's new book press reset which is a great well reported story of video game studio closures. And i found it very interesting read and especially. I tried to make peace accessible for people who are not gaining americans. So i do hope that you. I do hope you read it. You are really successful industry. They're so much of the american economy is built on. Ip video they're like a huge part of this ip based entertainment industry. They make billions of dollars a year. It's also great indicator of where the society in politics ahead of gamer gate. You could argue for basically everything that came after it exactly. Yeah can sort of test run for a lot of other extremely online culture wars. I that would come in the next few years. It's a rich topic. And i think one that is if anything sort of under disgust in the in the non game media right but i i wanted to look at it from the sort of labor angle because one of the interesting things about it and i don't think people really know this unless they follow. The industry is that although very successful industry and one in which most of the people working at are fairly well paid. It's still a labor disaster and the reasons for that there's a lot of them and but basically like people who develop games who work on game so people who do the actual work of creating the game are at the lowest rung of these entertainment conglomerate ladders and are treated as disposable. Even though they're doing this highly technical. Work that i mean. Learn to code that sort of a buzzword and a joke for a reason. There's a lot of demand for that work and it's often well compensated but It's incredibly disruptive industry to be in oftentimes when a when a large game studio ships a game there are mass layoffs prior to shipping the game. There's a period of crunch where everyone is sort of institutional tradition of incredible overwork and when people lose jobs in the industry they usually have to completely pack up their lives. Move across the country because there isn't a sort of games industry town it's spread not just nationally but internationally so jason's book he'll write about someone who like in the course of their career in the games industry like moved from phoenix to boston to providence rhode island to australia to california like just to sort of keep in the same industry And there's all these other things and my thesis of my piece was that like it doesn't have to be this way and the reason it is this way is because it's a creative industry. That is not unionized. At all unlike for example the movie industry which also creates these giant expensive entertainment projects but which is one of the most densely unionized industries in american society. Left and in movies basically what unionization did in addition to providing protections for workers. It actually allowed them. It allowed a pro version of the gig economy to come into place that actually a made it work for the people who do the job in the sense that people who work in hollywood both the actors and writers but also the people who operate the cameras and to make up and costuming. They're independent contractors. Essentially they go from project to project but they get to keep their health benefits. They get to set the terms of their employment. They get to keep their pensions with them. Because they're all union. All of them are union right and that sort of like intense level. Unionization is another reason. Why bunch of seemingly out of actors can live off of their residuals. Like they won't necessarily go hungry even if they haven't been able to get work or find work for an extended period of time and you're saying there's nothing resembling anything like that in the gaming mystery no and there are. There are efforts to organize it and there are some Including the entertainment. Unions have been working on the problem. But no it's so far away from that system couldn't be further away and for a long time. There was a sort of cultural resistance to the idea among games workers because of the sort of vestigial silicon valley maybe libertarianism. But i actually think that's culturally changing. And i think more and more people who actually work in the industry are fed up with the working conditions there and i do hope that begins to change soon. Well not to be reductive about it. But alex or you yourself a gamer. I think a hardcore gamer would consider me a filthy casual. But i am a gamer. Yes i enjoy gaming. I must confess the only video game console. Besides like a gameboy or something. Like that. I've ever owned and i stopped after sixty four. Oh yeah. I took a break as what happened for me is like i took a sort of games are not for me break after like college years and then nintendo kind of sucked me back in. But now now i'm like i'm inching towards like i'm inching towards hardcore. Pc gaming so probably no hope for me. Is there anything that comes. Close to the artistic majesty of a perfect dark or a goldeneye for and sixty four. I think you play what i recommend. Free of yakuza zero. I think it should give that one shot. Oh man okay okay. I think i will have to look at and on that note. Alex keep doing what you're doing. Thank you so much for joining us on the program. You're welcome back anytime all right. It was a lot of fun. Thank you will you ready for some fresh. Let's go into the deepest pit of the fresh hell this week. Folks i gotta bruiser for you so you reading a new batch of conservative children's books how frumpy or these. How transphobic oh these how anti crt for the answer is berry on. All of them. And i should say. I haven't been able to get my hands on copy yet but but i've been studying the lower in the expanded universe so you know people on the left right you have children's books like anti-racist baby that kind of stuff and now on the right we're getting sort of a reaction to that in a new series of children's books that are meant to make sure you have an upright one america news watching child so excellent there's this new series of books and they're called brave books and what's fascinating to me about these children's books. They all star animals sort of anthropomorphic. Animals and each of the books teaches a lesson in each of the books has a sort of conservative like see tear conservative pundit attached to them but they all work into this larger universe called freedom island. And so like you know there is. I think they're kind of building up to an avengers kind of thing because there's like a foot. These islands are populated by animal. That's right but they have cities and stuff. I mean like cute little critters. Yeah i mean they have issues right. I mean like some of the animals are communists. some of the animals are libertarian. I should say of freedom fast. This is interesting to me the moles there's a whole taxonomy of the animals moles hate authority in every form of rules. They wanna see the downfall of regulations and laws so that all animals can be truly free but really they just want to create chaos. So this to me is kind of an anti libertarian book as well but so here's the setup so the first book that's coming out and i think it's interesting that this is the first one. It's called something like elephants or not birds supposedly written by a lady named ashley saint clair who is sort of pundit figure until she was seen hanging out with white nationalist. Nick says she got the boot from that and now she's writing this book but the gist of elephants are not birds is that there's an elephant. Who sings very well and a vulture named culture. The vulture convinces the elephant that he should be a bird because he seems so well but he does not have a very good time. And if you think that there are some sort of anti trans insinuations here. That's no accident Tell us a little bit more about that books coming out. The new york post had a very interesting article with the the gentleman who founded this upcoming books. Include the island a free ice cream from frequent pod mentioned guy. They're trying to get children to hate free ice cream. Well here's the deal. They have a very industrious island. Until i believe wolves arrived with free ice cream. Communism right it's kind of a cuba kinda big. Maybe and only this fox can save them and this is curious to me. In the new york post thing they say the company is also courting dan crenshaw to write fame blame and the raft of shame about cancelled cultures upcoming book on cancel culture. That's how you know you're an ultra successful publishing house when you have to get it written in the new york post that. Oh we're quoting an author to do this thing. Well to be clear yes number one dan crenshaw definitely not doing this but number two like it's funny to say he's going to write it when the book is clearly already been written and titled like basically. We're getting into endorse it. you know. there's so much going on with this series. I mean so. They have upcoming books on the right to bear arms law and order capitalism critical race theory. And i think we can. We can play them audio from these guys. Are you confident. Your children's foundational values grounded in truth. I'm not i'm trent. Talbot founder of brave books. When my daughter was born i realized i couldn't rely on the culture around me to teach my children good values these values. They need to work hard care for the week to appreciate the freedom. We adore in america. That's why we have brave books ever written stories with timeless virtues for the next generation these stories take place in our brave universe where our heroes of freedom island are facing the same villainous ideologies that our children face our culture today but so freedom island comes with a map. And so you give this map to your kids and as they read each one. They put their sticker on which part of freedom island they've discovered but there's one part of rita violet in particular i say freedom islands more like an archipelago because there's a lot of different islands around it but there's one part in particular that i'm quite intrigued by Which island is that well. I'm pretty sure they put jeffrey epstein's little saint james in this book series. Because tell me this is not about epstein island okay. It's called could ball island right and it has a temple on it. Just like jeffrey epstein's island and here's the description of kabbalah island cobol island. Maybe the most mysterious of them. All freedom ireland's wealthiest animals vacation at the temple of the serpent. Which makes everyone quite curious right. Am i wrong. That's about little saint james right. Yeah and there's also a gigantic serpent in circling the temple. With a big old red apple in it's just like guzzling the red apple. Okay so this is clearly meant to be It's mark of sin and like the destruction of man. Adam and eve stuff so i guess the ball. That is doing these horrible things to children. Okay yeah i get that connection a nefarious of all named glain. I mean it's not exactly like the most subtle stuff. But i would not put jeffrey epstein references. The children's book but then again. That's why i don't have an entire series. What a terrible thing to try to teach children do not mean to save as horrible to teach your children. That's sick panic child. Murder calls are bad. I mean but like to try to beat them anti epstein stuff at whatever age. They're supposed to be when they consume this like five years old. This is going to rot their brain. They're not going to know what's going on. I love everything else. Is like an allegory. Right like everything else is okay. The ice cream is communism hugging. Teach these two kids and then there's a cabal and the rich go to his iowa would lose all the all the idea of symbols and subtlety. I mean it's all feels like a direct mirror image of what they accuse alleged. Crt people trying to do too young children like this the indoctrination that they keep whining about. But it's just coming from like a far-right perspective. That fit. yes i mean. Well you're allowed to indoctrinate your own kids with a charming story about ice cream and communism. This reminds me a lot of the conservative coloring books. You remember these kind of a me and kind of thing during the obama era. I didn't have the pleasure they promoted. I think from time to time on fox news. They were these adorable coloring books. That would paint people like trump or ted cruz heroes. Obviously you could call her all the different pages in yourself as much as you like. I think they were branded as allegedly for all ages but then they would have really graphic ones like anti isis coloring books were members of isis would be seen in iraq or syria crucifying people and color. It in this seems at least a little bit friendlier than those. I mean you have little foxes. Were representing like far right liberty. So i guess. This is a step in the right direction for america's children i win for the book about the in arco capitalist moles. I'm not giving in to it until then on that note. Let's wrap up this episode of fever. Dreams from the daily beast in view. Installments will also be speaking to some awesome reporters and other colleagues of the daily beast and beyond from politics popular culture and other over fed underdeveloped institutions. We hope you'll subscribe to us on your preferred podcasting app and shared the show on social media or at your family dinner table. If you'd like follow us on twitter. I'm at will summer and swim his at swin. Twenty four come say hello. This podcast is produced by jesse cannon with music by brian to make leah. Thanks so much for listening and we'll see you next time.

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