35 Burst results for "Candice"

Inspiration4 Crew Returns to Earth After Historic Flight

NBC Nightly News

01:50 min | 2 months ago

Inspiration4 Crew Returns to Earth After Historic Flight

"Historic journey to spaces on the books tonight. The spacex dragon capsule the splashdown in the atlantic ocean. Off the coast of florida with the world's first all civilian four member crew give is in port canaveral candice. This adventure has been ground. Baking in so many ways it hasn't been groundbreaking and shows that the sky is really no limit for civilians. And i'll tell you. We heard this gigantic thud here in port. Canaveral as dragon capsule made its way through the atmosphere. And then that just beautiful landing in the atlantic ocean wrapping up this beautiful journey tonight. The return to earth the first all civilian space crew to orbit the earth wrapping their history-making three day mission. We're giving all of our time right now to you science research and some ukulele playing and trying to raise awareness for an important cause for us back on earth the inspiration for billionaire jared isaac men. Who's bankrolling the trip bone cancer survivor. Haley arsenault scien- proctor. The first black woman to pilot spacecraft and chris brown sqi who won his ticket through sweepstakes there last hours in space spent taking in the views snapping photos in the specially designed capsule dome even chatting with bano the blasted off from cape canaveral. Wednesday evening on a spacex rocket their capsule the dragon measuring thirteen feet wide. Their home as they whizzed around earth at seventeen thousand miles an hour. It's been really interesting to see how fluid shifts with my gravity environment mission part science to determine the effects of space on the human body and park charity more than one hundred fifty billion dollars raised for saint jude's children's hospital where arsenal works patients. They're getting a rare treat. Thursday

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Vanderbilt AD Condemns 'Unacceptable' Racist Slurs Directed Toward Parents at CWS

The Paul Finebaum Show

01:31 min | 5 months ago

Vanderbilt AD Condemns 'Unacceptable' Racist Slurs Directed Toward Parents at CWS

"Was the athletic director at vanderbilt candice story lee when she issued a public statement which we shared with you earlier which brought this to light for. The first time. Clinton had tweeted something. But there's a big difference between a reporter tweeting something in the athletic director of the university in question making a public statement so i. I don't know the answer to this. But i'm assuming is not a very very good thing. I have spoken to john cone of mississippi state and the statement that kansas issued is this. I am deeply troubled that some of our student athlete. Parents were subjected to racist slurs. During last night's game this is. This is absolutely unacceptable and disgraceful behavior and such hateful. Language has no place anywhere in our society to the family members who were impacted. Please know that you have my full support. So i was taught as a young journalist never to to make assumptions. Let me finish with john cone statement. We joined vanderbilt in declaring such behaviour unacceptable and indirect conflict with evaluating both institutions and our fan base. The college world series serves as a celebration of the entire sport of college. Baseball highly inappropriate advancements must neither be tolerated allowed to detract from the on the field accomplishments of the student athletes and their teams who have earned the right to participate on this national stage.

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Producer Candice Madsen Discusses Her Investigation Into the Joyce Yost Murder

Cold

02:33 min | 5 months ago

Producer Candice Madsen Discusses Her Investigation Into the Joyce Yost Murder

"Probably as mentioned in the episode. I received this letter from doug level. And i his name just did not ring a bell back to thousand fifteen. I was actually a news producer. A show producer for ksl. So i had produced countless newscasts where he was featured but the name didn't ring a bell. I was flattered. Obviously when you get reaction to this time out you were flattered by getting a letter from an intermittent. She didn't know know. Okay yeah so. I mean it was a very nice you know. The written the written letter didn't really even. I don't even think it mentioned the murder. The the pamphlet did but the actual handwritten letter was just an inmate. That said you know. Thank you so much for raising awareness about suicide prevention. And so i think hey you know. I'm glad that this message is reaching anyone that needs help so i actually had. I think i put it on my private instagram account or was telling a friend about it and she said. Don't you know who that is. And she's an attorney. And i said no and then i googled the name and i admit i was horrified Because i mean the crime is horrific. But then i thought how come i don't know about this crime and i knew you know once it's like okay. I know the name. He's on death. Row he to the crime. It's kind of you know end of story but then at the time. So i'm you know there's the news coverage because he's in the news because he's trying to get all these witnesses appeal and the appeals and everything but i thought where's the story about what he did and then i couldn't find anything about joyce i mean there was when i'm google. Lean his name pulls up. But i think i may be found one or two articles that told the story of joyce and that really bothered me and i think also i felt a connection with joyce i mean. We're about the same age. We're both single. This horrible crime happens to her. And i kind of felt like she was forgotten. And then you know when i start diving into the case and when i got when i put in the request to get the records right and i started reading the accounts and the testimonies and rhonda's involvement in olive that was just equally kind of horrifying to me. And so that's what i thought. Gosh you know this. When i start having a conversation about what is this and i had the same reaction as you i. I couldn't boot up joyce or remember what level had

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An Indigenous Long Distance Live Story

Unreserved

02:21 min | 6 months ago

An Indigenous Long Distance Live Story

"One of my favorite stories of this past season has to be the story of candidates. And richard scott more i had been following the almost operatic relationship of candace and richard during the pandemic the married couple normally split their time between canada and australia but cove it kept them a world apart. I watched a couple bond over social media staying connected even through the most difficult of circumstances. Richard from the union wadi wadi nation on the southeast coast of australia and candice is from kettle point in southern ontario. I spoke with the couple in february to see how they made their long distance. Love story work. I started by welcoming them to the show. Thank you so. I can you tell me where you are and what time. It is well arm in australia at the moment. It's nine thirty seven in the morning or just finished work but it's a beautiful morning and for me. It's thursday evening five thirty and we're not only. Are we in a different time zone. Currently run a different day. Alright so canvas you to our earth from different indigenous communities literally a world apart. So how did you meet. How did that happen. Do you remember the moment that you i saw richard. Oh that is a moment. i will never forget I it was actually during planet indigenous festival in toronto. Back in two thousand nine and i remember the opening of the festival and just hearing the digital you. I was like just something. I had never really heard before. And when i went out to the to where the red path stages i remember seeing strong amazing. Powerful group of men That carry their traditions and songs. And and so i had to get closer. I had to go and just be a part of it and just go and see and so i wa. I remember walking closer to the stage. And then i seen richard and hearing him sing in his voice and i was just totally blown away by what i was witnessing and seeing and literally like literally knocked off my feet like i literally just sat down right mice bought like i need to be here to see this and little. Did i know that. I would be spending the rest of my with him.

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Brazil’s Amazon Deforestation Reaches Record Level for May

BBC Assignment

01:45 min | 6 months ago

Brazil’s Amazon Deforestation Reaches Record Level for May

"Says deforestation in the Amazon region increased by 40% in the year to me, 1180 square kilometres of rainforest were lost. Meanwhile, a separate report is warning that illegal logging is set to get worse. As the Amazon enters the dry season. I got more details from our Americas editor Candice Pet Well, this is the third consecutive months of these record figures of deforestation in the Amazon is really raising serious questions about President Jair Bolsonaro's commitments to fighting deforestation. Environmentalists argue that the deforestation levels have been increasing because his policies and his environment minister have been slowly dismantling the legal protection measures. That police and control deforestation in the Amazon. The minister himself is under investigation by prosecutors for alleged involvement in the export of illegal would, for example, to be sold to the European Union and the United States. The Environment Ministry is also frozen funding to the environmental policing body and frozen their normal ability to patrol and monitor deforestation. President Bolsonaro has promised to eradicate illegal deforestation in the Amazon by 2030. Is that even realistic? Well, it's certainly contradicts a lot of what he's been saying. So far since he got into office in 2019. He's repeatedly advocated to develop Mentalist policy for the Amazon has argued the region needs economic development, not protection as some kind of giant reserve as he puts it. So these latest statements have been seen with great skepticism in Brazil. A by his opponents. There's been

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"candice" Discussed on Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

04:24 min | 9 months ago

"candice" Discussed on Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

"I don't understand why they did it this way. I don't work anymore. So it doesn't matter but like they. It was my first director. And i'd like been told she was a little bit intense and they had me. I'm very very pale. And they had me in an all white house in like a red outfit like look awful like my skin. They were all of the there was no white balance. It looked fucking terrible. The worst pictures of me. I hate them like. I didn't even re tweet them. And i like literally. My agent was like why. Aren't you promoting the scene owes like have you seen the pictures from the scene. And then he's on he's like oh i'm really sorry i was like yo. You're all in wide against red backdrop. I mean i'm wearing red. All everything in the house is white. Like bright white. So kim kardashian jaundice like i hall. It's awful that other ruin your day..

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"candice" Discussed on Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

05:49 min | 9 months ago

"candice" Discussed on Two Girls One Mic: The Porncast

"Porn. Welcome to the show. That's willing to ask the hard questions like are you okay. I know that's illegal. But kate are. You k- man where to start. I'm adequate. I know no one's really supposed to ask that nowadays. I think it's important especially we're all holed up or not whatever you're doing but that said we do have a guest on the show and i know you're doing the show today but i do want to make a quick announcement before we dive right in. Which is that if that's still longer part of teaching lamb. Summit this awkward say something. Just silence of moment of silence. That is respectful alice. I'm sorry my twenty one gun. Salute is in the shop rate now. Kate owning guns is an a personality. I know that's why you don't have any Also because frankly if anyone knows anything about me there should know that. I am not responsible enough to do that. I do. you really need to get a taser like just for like protection purposes because they live in hollywood but you can't like order them on the internet. If you live in california so i have to like go to a store that sells pepper spray and tasers. And i don't know what store that would be so just not. I've just been risking my life for the last two years instead of googling this i've got nothing the bear store right like huntings door in hollywood which is so known for people that love to hunt. It's a different kind of predator here so long story. Short event is going to continue pursuing cyber. We love her. We want to support her in all she's doing but we're still going to have an awesome show. Nothing has clearly changed on here but we do have a third voice here. And that is candice candice. I'm butchering your last name. Horovitz horseback well. It's technically batch. If you want to polish way but that's awful and i just don't so hornbeck married a pole so i was gonna say as a polish person you do not look polish also part polish now married one although our audience might know you buy a slightly different name which is your stage name. Evil avena low via well we. We went over this in the beginning. Good lord alice. You're both culturally and porn insensitive. It's fine. I mean it difficult. I myself by trying to create a name that wasn't in existence before. And now everyone will have ever butchers. So it's fine so you have not only one but two last names people can butcher your well. I know i didn't think that at all. You're still an adult or not really nowadays. So i do like an only vans and i still have an site so both of those things update but i stopped shooting mainstream. I wanna say like four years ago. I watched you a porn..

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Seattle Storm sign perennial WNBA All-Star forward Candice Dupree

Noon Report with Rick Van Cise

00:23 sec | 10 months ago

Seattle Storm sign perennial WNBA All-Star forward Candice Dupree

"Storm lost All star Alicia Clark to the Mystics last week after she signed a free agent deal. Now the storm filled her spot on the roster with another all star, Candice debris. I knew that teams were interested, but for me, it was like money and winning. Those were my my two big things, so it was pretty easy to help narrow down a lot of the teams and Seattle was the best fit to pre average is a little more than 14 points a

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"candice" Discussed on Untangle

Untangle

04:48 min | 11 months ago

"candice" Discussed on Untangle

"So i guess. Kansas is an entrepreneur that is passionate about creativity and lifelong learning. She's the co founder of mastermind. A new live learning platform for creators. And she's the creator of game. Changer sessions a community passionate people who want to create the future we want and who are interested in designing mental models to thrive rather than just survive. So i'm absolutely delighted to have my friend. Candace factor with us today. Hello and welcome kansas. It is so amazing to be here. Thank you so much for me. And i'm particularly excited to be talking with you right now when there is a palpable shift in the world and there's a palpable sensation amongst us that the future in the possibility of the future has changed. The twenty twenty. One may actually be different than twenty twenty. You can feel this. You certainly can and i love that. Our conversation is on the week that we welcome such a light and such brightness into the world certainly in terms of leadership in america but just in general i think the notion of collective consciousness being focused on a reset is very very powerful so much so that even more powerful than our own individual markers. I hosted a phenomenal guests. This week canal. Who said the new year is actually more important to him than his very unbirthday. And i think what he means by god is when we all are focused on a reset. There's the power of the collectives in being in the same place at the same time. That's where we are in january. Yeah there's definitely sensation with on the horizon with the new year here was a new change of leadership that there's a new horizon new possibility that many of us are feeling simultaneously. And they're right. There's a palpable power to that. That were all making your new year's resolutions. We're all looking ahead for brief moments. None of us wanted to look ahead and now we're like oh we can do that now. Absolutely although wedding. I will say is i like to acknowledge the past. I feel as if we don't actually spend the time reflecting on the past. We sort of bring the baggage of the past with us. The very first thing. I would like to do around setting intentions for a new year and celebrating. The new is actually making peace with the old. I'm really interested in giving people some prompts in some exercises to really have deep reflections around with the past be the past few months the pasture but spending that time to kind of say. Hey what ally noticing about what was what. Don't i want to karen with me as we entered this new time. What do i need to make peace with in order to allow all of this abundance. That future has to really now fast. It's interesting one speaks to the audience from. Oh my intention with this episode is to actually give you a foundation or framework guideposts that you can use for your own to vision. Twenty twenty one and so candice. If you were going to frame this as an exercise for the audience what would you recommend doing. Yeah by. I would say the first thing to do is to actually spend the time looking deeply to twenty and there's so many interesting ways you can do one of the things i love to do is actually just to scroll back through my photos and just create the markers of what were those milestone events and the milestone events are both some of the highs and also sung the lows and that may show up in photos that it also made show happen just going through each month than remembering although i find personally that very hard so maybe it scrolling through your calendar and using some those markers as reminders for what actually happened. And what did i feel in those different months and just creating some space for us to started. Has some data is really really powerful. And then once. You're looking at the highs and lows whenever the prompts word that you used your calendar your photos the next thing i like to do is actually instead of just looking at data plebiscites and do some real reflections around. What is the seems. What are the actual lessons learned from. I think for most of us are really really difficult here

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2021 Golden Crappies

Watch What Crappens

05:11 min | 11 months ago

2021 Golden Crappies

"Birdie a welcome to the crappy awards twenty twenty one inc warranty Virtual crappy this is where the crappies began. Wow y- tonight just like the old days you guys. Twenty twenty one has been quite a year. I'd like to congratulate everybody. I mean twenty twenty with quite a year. Twenty twenty one. You know. it's had some shit to already. Twenty twenty was quite a year. So congratulations to everybody for making it through so much has happened in one year. I just think to what it was like before. The whole corona virus thing. I mean things were so great. I was just like sitting alone in my house eating too much. Playing mario talking to no one watching housewives way. Yeah still pretty much. Do that but seriously This year a virus spread across america causing illness. Sadness and loss but enough about kim zolciak. Okay i know. Just think the biggest plague facing this country before this. Jack's taylor guys you know. I spent a good amount of twenty twenty just playing animal crossing. Which as you it's a game about a bunch of animals stuck on an island up. Some of you may not original named the real house. Believe sorry they laugh to sued new york city already. The punchline about to land and the country has gone through a lot you know. I mean besides the corona virus. We've had political upheaval. I mean america's now even more trillions of dollars in debt. I mean no one in government watches housewives. And if they did they'd get fifty girlfriends and force them all to give america hundred bucks on your birthday. I mean we'd still be in debt but lady liberty would have a gucci bag to show for it. You know the on a serious note. The nation was very shocked a few weeks ago when an angry mob raided the capital. And all you gave them was a pizza. Jennifer eight in and we finally got a new president this week and the nation breathes a sigh of relief. Now look i know all of you have different political opinions and that's fine. My personal opinion is thank god that the orange thing left on my. Tv's ram be read mid no but you know the thing is i mean current events were one thing but so much actually happened in the world but it seemed like so much more happened on bravo. Yeah i mean house was getting fired. So many housewives got fired a record amount. I mean it was a slaughterhouse and it was not the organic kind either. there was a lot of botulism in that meet. Okay housewives caster transforming faster than derek kinsley space. Have you seen that thing. It looks like an elbow anyo on below deck mid hannah. Ferrier was fired for smuggling valium onto the boat and then on vanderpump rules jackson brittany were fired for smuggling food via onto bravo and then we have of course. Our trustee good old friend alcoholism. Okay got real outside of new york trying to convince that she's alcoholic then you've got the real housewives of orange county trying to convince bronwyn that she's not an alcoholic and you got the rest of us sitting over here like what. What are you idiots fighting over k. Do you try and tell the mailman. He's a mailman. You're alcoholics okay. Do your jobs less talking more. Drank he here here here here if we had if we had like a good old fashioned like golden girls mom's earthy monologue clap would be right there and when i can figure this thing out i will move to that button so another thing that happened. So the massive fight between candice amani that sent to'mix ratings through the roof which just goes to show that audiences crave conflict so as a result bravo will now be rebranding top chef as the gail simmons thunderdome of ham my head teddy mellon campus fired in public. Outrage breakout over her diet. I mean people were really furious when they found out that customers were getting thin with starvation. Lots of exercise in a crazy woman bullying them day and night. Berating them for their food choices. They called it all in with teddy. I called it my child head

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Lebanese judge charges caretaker PM in August port explosion

AP News Radio

00:48 sec | 1 year ago

Lebanese judge charges caretaker PM in August port explosion

"The Lebanese prosecutor probing last summer's politics plays number read file charges against the caretaker prime minister and three former ministers the full of the most senior individuals to be indicted so far in the investigation which is being conducted in secrecy judge buddy someone filed the charges against her seventy up and former finance minister Ali Hassan Khalil as well as two former ministers of public works old fool which touch with Candice this negligence leading to death over the August fourth explosion at Beirut's pulls the incident led to more than two hundred deaths and injured thousands the explosion was caused by the ignition of a large stockpile of explosive material that had been stored at the port for six years near a heavily populated area top security officials and politicians knew about the stockpile and its whereabouts and did nothing about it I'm Karen Thomas

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The Trump vote is rising among Blacks and Hispanics, despite the conventional wisdom

Morning Edition

04:38 min | 1 year ago

The Trump vote is rising among Blacks and Hispanics, despite the conventional wisdom

"That President Trump did better than some people expected with black and Latino voters. We say it appears because votes were still being counted. The election results looked very different on Tuesday night than they do right now, and they may look different again, but we can say The president made a bid for black and Latino voters, and some responded, including in the very closely fought state of Nevada. NPR's Leila Fadel reports This year was the first time 29 year old Amanda Sandoval voted. I woke up early. I arranged for my mom to take my kids to school, and I got there half an hour early, and I waited in line and I voted, and it was a huge moment in my life because this election is so important, it's more important than any other election. In history because it's going to dictate so much of our future. She's a trump supporter. So is her husband, and neither of them voted in 2016. But this year, the self described conservative Mexican Americans chose the president because of their anti abortion stance as devout Christians as well as trump supporter of school choice and promises of a better economy. Part of what may be a record turnout in Nevada. And in this purple State. Latino voters have been the backbone to every single democratic presidential win here. Black and Asian voters are also key. And while Biden will win black and Latino voters by landslides across the country, which could deliver him the election and Nevada Trump appears to be getting more not less support in black and Latino communities. Both campaigns have heavily invested in courting communities of color and Latino communities, in particular in Nevada. Musil Harvey is a fellow at Columbia University's sociology department. It's a glaring indictment of the Democratic Party than in the midst of Ah recession and the major pandemic that a lot of minority voters. I did not believe that their lives would necessarily be better off under Joe Biden that Donald Trump Despite the outsized economic devastation, death illness is in the midst of this pandemic for Latino and black communities. There's hardly a better indication of Democrats. Inability to speak toe ordinary people about things. They care about this that in midst of the milieu we find ourselves in they still lost minority voters, Garvey says. Minority voters need to be treated as individuals. They are some conservative, some more liberal, some who want limits on immigration. People are less concerned at the end of the day when they're casting their ballots. Whether or not a politician likes them or with it or gets it or if they're woke or not, versus this person going to make my life my life going to be better or worse in the next sort of four years. We really are not a monolithic group that Sander Dixon she heads empower 3 60. It engages and mobilizes black voters in Nevada. She's hoping for a record turnout. She's a Democrat that runs a nonpartisan nonprofit and believes Nevada will go to Biden because of black and Latino voters. But she says she's a little disappointed that her party hasn't fully figured out how to really engage black voters on issues beyond identity. And so because of that, you can get all of the turn out that you want, but you're seeing the results. Of not putting in the work to engage them when it's off cycle to inform them and educate them about issues to make sure that you're actually connecting to the pain that they're having at the time and you're able to turn that into Democratic results, she says. Voters she engaged said racial justice was important because it's been a fight every generation battles a given, but most important to the voters, she spoke to you on Election Day. We're healthcare education jobs, So the political parties need to engage voters early and often on the issues that matter to them. On Wednesday, she was waiting for election results and paying poll workers in Candice's. You're so welcome. Thank you so much for everything. Among them was Dante Walker. Thie 21 year old almost didn't vote. He jokes that he was like the people he end up trying to convince to cast their ballots. Like I don't think I will have a voice or my wish would be heard if I did vote or it mattered if I voted, so that's one. He describes himself as very churchy his work to engage voters the Lord's work. I came to my decision because I passed in my church, she said. Whoever spoke unity at the election is the one who's supposed to vote for Bytom was the first person who was said immunity, so he chose Biden, his cousin, just six months older shows trump his family, not a monolith and political parties need to understand that because even if Democrats take the overwhelming majority of black and Latino voters, thes elections come down to a few 1000 votes in places like Nevada. Leila Fadel.

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Cardi B SLAMS Candace Owens After She Calls Her an 'Illiterate Rapper'

The Rubin Report

04:28 min | 1 year ago

Cardi B SLAMS Candace Owens After She Calls Her an 'Illiterate Rapper'

"It's blowing up right now. So this is candace owens versus Cardi B. and not just doing this to be silly I. Did they actually got into something kinda substantive here it started when. Canvas was on Ben Shapiro's Sunday special. Let's take look the clip. I completely agree with your assessment about Cardi B. It is one of the biggest insult if Black Americans are not insulted by the fact that Joe Biden who has been hiding in his basement you know for the entire year maiden appear to come up because he was going to do an interview with Cardi B.. We we have nothing better to offer. I. Mean this be tend to. Donald Trump saying I'm going to give no. Interviews, but he came up and he decided to give an interview to Justin Bieber right I mean I wish I actually just be I'm sorry. I know you are a Christian Man I. Don't want to put you in the same boat as Cardi B. but it it would be absurd white America would go what what is this why? Why are you being interviewed by Justin Bieber and it's because you're pandering right? You're pandering you look at Cardi's instagram easy. She has millions of followers and you think. Okay. This is an illiterate person, and if I if I appeal to this a person and she does a group like she literally did in the middle of this interview, they think she's cool. She's hip just by sitting here and and taking this interview walking will vote for me. It's basically saying black people you are stupid. You are dumb and you're so foolish I mean do you think what if she just said in the middle of the interview Joe Biden? Can you name one Cardi B. Album? Not Jimmy favor just one Cardi B. Lyric. He couldn't do it. Of course he's not because he's being handled and they're saying black people like this person this is what they're into, and so here you go talk to her. Okay. So Cardi, b. e. then heard what candy said and she hit back she did a couple of videos I think four videos on instagram shows on camera, but you could hear her talking in the exact quote that she said she's talking about. Canvas she says, she has an identity crisis just because she is black doesn't mean she gives a F- about blacks and you can hear also saying the candidates owns husband George. as part of a group that she like into an upper-class kkk of the UK now first off. I was at Atkinson in Georgia's wedding George a great guy they are a fantastic couple. The wedding was one of the most spectacular weddings I've ever been to and it was just filled. With love and there were black people and white people and there were straight people and gay people and there were Republicans and Democrats, it was it was a truly just a just an absolutely wonderful wedding with with a meeting of Families George comes from an upper class family in the UK. Candice comes from Philly from mostly lower middle class family and that everybody was just dancing and having a great time. So this nonsense from Cardi, B. But anyway, that's what her. Take on what candy said was, and then you know candidates. So she's not just going to sit there and take it. So campus followed up with a couple tweets and I'm going to read to you she said Malcolm X. warned us years ago about the puppetry of interviews like Cardi B. and Joe Biden, he always spoke out against the White Liberal game of using entertainers pawns. This isn't really about you Cardi B. This is about black America Waking Up to Democrat racism. She went on and another tweet to say never listened to a person that has private security but once the public police defended never listened to a millionaire that made it here in America but trashes our country. These Hollywood idols are frauds leading sheep down paths they never took when they discovered success. So so candidates makes what I think are pretty cogent salient points and Cardi B. Then jumps back in. Cardi visas well, paying taxes is something that as much as I hate, it's a reality I will always have to pay but I rather might tax money go to free education than police funding use my money on something useful your president us our tax money to fund is empty camp in ruts. So trump uses his campaign a. Uses the tax money to fund his campaign is that is that right? Well, can't jump back in and said one your tax dollars or ready to go already go to free education. Jesus. That is true to know campaign uses tax dollars for funding. That is illegal that is also true and three defunding police initiatives has led to two hundred percent increases in black men getting shot in inner cities stop supporting black people dying.

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Starting Zocdoc with Oliver Kharraz

How I Built This

1:03:33 hr | 1 year ago

Starting Zocdoc with Oliver Kharraz

"Oliver Karaz was born and raised in Germany mostly in rural parts of the country his mother was German and his father was from Iran in came from a long line of doctors. For me, it really starts in some ways with my dad and. The timing rapidly had every reason to become a social activist and and so he came to Germany from the Middle East when he was very young around twenty with no money in his pocket no language skills. And you personally then worked on of odd jobs, but he eventually became a psychiatrist but what has really shaped me much more than being born in Berlin is. Social. Active. Isn't that I that I saw him live and that he really made our family mattress we always talked about talent responsibility and the need to use. Whatever telling behind to help those. Around us that we can make a difference. Given that your father was Iranian and your mother was was sort of. German. An Uber even though you were born in Germany, did you feel did you feel as Germany everybody else? So I didn't have a second identity. We only used spoke German at home and yet. As you say I was also a not always fully accepted. So if I give you an example, my school twelve hundred students and you could pick out to the didn't look like everyone else and I was one of them right and even an enlightened country like Germany. That is notable. So I had what I call a visual accent would people would see me on the street and they would ask me how to speak German. So well and But they also school the skipped my name when reading out scores because they weren't sure how to pronounce my last name and opportunities taken away and even at was physically threatened so i. I think that really shaping in many ways because I realized. Very early that in order to be as successful as everyone around me I would have to be dramatically better in really work much much harder than anyone else and so that used to be strong work ethic in me. For the record Oliver is somewhat down playing his work ethic. Because just out of high school, he actually started his first successful company. It was the early clunky days of the Internet, and he designed a way to help people send emails more easily and he wound up selling that business not for a ton of money, but enough to get him through medical school. But. After practicing medicine for a couple years Oliver realized he couldn't stop thinking about that first business he'd started and how he wanted to start another. So he quit his job in medicine and consulting job with Mackenzie and eventually moved to New York. That was my goal was actually to start another company that that's A. Healthcare, but I I'd also realized at the time that I sold my first company and far too cheaply in that I should learn more about business I and at McKinsey God exposure to balance sheets and panels and hit a lot of very practical experience and what it means to manage business. And I think they fondly of my time at McKinsey was one of my better decisions. McKinsey GonNa Mackenzie is a little bit like going to business school. A lot of people at McKinsey have come from business, schools. In that. Many people go to business school thinking they will find a co-founder. Did you were you actively looking around at your colleagues to think maybe I can do something with him or her you know maybe that person. Absolutely and were you just thinking about different business ideas all the time? Well, it is actually very hard to find good ideas and my definition of a good idea was that it needed to have a great mission I. wanted to make sure that we actually do something good in that. We stayed true to sort of talent breaks responsibility, but also wanted to be a large market and to have a great motor rounded and also I wanted to be based on contrarian inside. Because I thought that all of the best companies have that at its core. While she wanted mission, you wanted a company that could kind of dominate its field by building a motor around it, but was also contrary and that's that's that's those are some interesting. Criteria. And that's why I screen for several years rejected pretty much every idea that that I came across And meanwhile. While you're going through all that I guess you meet this guy Cyrus Masumi. WHO's another McKenzie consultant and and just you just. Become friends like he's like somebody like in and you guys start hanging out. While we got put on study together that required us to travel globally and you've ever done that it meant frost were sixteen eighteen hour days together for three four, five months on end and we really. Got To become great partners in that and and what we realized that we had some. Very complementary skills. Cyrus is one of the most charismatic and gregarious individuals. You'd ever meet his very passionate. He could be more forceful, which sometimes was needed to be effective with clients. And you've talked to me now for a little bit as you can probably tell. More dispassionate and logical and more measuring. German? More, German in many ways, right. also was effective with clients by by. and Cyrus is American right? He's American this but that That close listened and how we work together that really started friendship and we stayed close for the study and be caught up over lunch pretty regularly denounce different business ideas off one another and. I think we connected because we had similar interests because. On. Some levels We were equally passionate about what we're doing higher says, passion was more visible to others than mine but we. Were close enough together that we both accepted. The other as. individual that that we could learn a lot from. Was it was it clear pretty soon after you start hanging out, Sarah's that this was the guy because you were. You're on the lookout for a partner. They I think it was was absolutely an option I know reality is that. With. Both founded companies before Mckinsey and we both knew that we wanna do it again and as I. was always great about being. Very honest. Rather than just nice and and I value that a lot. Yeah. All, right. So So this guy, Cyrus Super Charismatic, really smart clearly, the two of you start to to work together. And what what kind of business ideas are are you coming up with? While we kind of fell in love with a new idea that came about a one of these launches were Cyrus. Told me about how he recently ruptured his eardrum by flying with a cold and then found it very difficult to actually find a doctor and he had asked for recommendations and called down his insurance directory listing started with the as. Doctors weren't accepting new patients some no longer accepted two centurions one provider Pasta Way and so he said, well, why does it take four days to the doctor when I'm in pain right? And why can't this much easier? And we. Both very quickly. realized the potential of this idea from. Working at project be new helps us the for actually spending millions of dollars for marketing to grow their patient base because they had wasted inventory, right they had something that I like to call hidden supply, which is these last minute cancellations no-shows reschedules. That the that go to waste, and then on the other, there are the patients who had a hard time accessing this. You thought it immediately clicked with these my God. Yes. Doctor's appointments connect patients to doctors. Yeah. Well, look if you go through the forfeiture that I had read, it's a great mission right? We're making one of the most personal needs more accessible for for patients we can help patients to get in fast we can help the doctors become more efficient. We can make the entire health care system more cost effective people out of the emergency room things like that, and it's a marketplace. So there is a strong mode and clearly anything in healthcare is a large market and I think the contrary and inside that we had. was. The fact that. Most people thought it's normal that people have to wait twenty four days to a doctor because there's a doctor shortage in read our inside was really no doctors have asthma debate ability because of these last minute cancellations, no-shows reschedules and so I felt very about this idea. So. So you member like how long between the time that the you had that first conversation To the time were both you said, let's start this business was like monster or weeks or days. was was weeks. We what we what we started doing is actually. Mocking up the side in how imagine back then in powerpoint pointing just the wire. Website. Yeah. Wire frame. Exactly. We would. We'd go into starbucks and we'll chat up strangers and say, Hey, here's a five dollar gift card. Give me your thoughts. Sorry I'm GonNa. Go back. You just go to people in starbucks Gift Card and say, can you give me your thoughts? Random Person? The absolutely that's that was sort of our market testing. They wouldn't. They would be like excuse me this is a little weird. You're my space. Might also happen from time to time but you know there's lots of people on starbucks is very in German of you. That's debris because usually he would be to report tentative about doing that. Well, you know I think there was a lot less rejection than you think people actually quite open I. Suggest you try this out but if you If you're unthreatening in Luke harmless as we probably dead and then they'll be pretty open. You went up to and starbucks and you'd say, Hey, we're thinking about a company here. Can you just look at his powerpoint give you five dollars Gift Card and what was in the powerpoint, the popcorn and was just what we thought. This website would look like and we would ask them is the set service that resonates with you would you use it and and we got an incredibly valuable feedback here and really set us in many ways on the on the right track right? So and what pointed to the two of you decide let's quit McKinsey. Let's. Let's pursue this. Probably a month or two after we initially discussed idea did anybody say you were crazy for quitting? Everyone. Everyone told us. Crazy and got a lot of negative feedback on the idea to write people would say this is Bloomberg out I would never pick my doctor on the internet or I already have a doctor or you know doctors wouldn't accept patients that that are looking on the Internet of all kinds of protections that people had when they were thinking about their own situation by. When when you talk to people and starbucks, they actually thought about it much more positively. So we were encouraged enough to say, well, this is going to work as long as we get out of our circle and don't ask McKinsey consultants doctors. The responsible be better. All right. So you are in your thirties at this point. And presumably were making pretty good cash at McKinsey because you were probably you'd know expenses you're on the road all the time so. When you quit, I'm assuming you had some money to launch the business and probably live off for a while. Yeah. So I very deliberately had never raised my living standard to the money that the paying McKinsey and I had saved every dime so that I could. No be in a position where can fund this embraced can afford not to take a salary for a couple of years. Wow. So so a couple of hundred thousand and you saved. You know. Maybe. I'm to Germany to discuss personal finances but. I had. Built this. Radio, you can tell the. Story Yeah I I had I had enough money to live off for for several years but I also Saturday night both finance the company early out of our own savings so that clearly diminish We had leftover after that. So now, you both decided to quit. and. You have some technical expertise because you had. You had done some coding but this is next level stuff. Were you able to be that technology founder and Cyrus was going to be the the sort of the business founder? Absolutely not as I add coated but at that point, I had not touched a computer for a long time We knew we need to have a technical co founder and so Sarah's knew a guy named Nick Guanzhou from the time together, trophy software, and this is another company that they would both worked at the that's the company that they're both previously worked together and Nick just brought a totally different perspective and really educated Addison me on a lot of things and and he was really the one who understood a building a seamless experience for the consumer and ends May. Zach Docs. Early Genius, did you did you have the name dock from the beginning? Not, not initially we we went to several phases on on what the right name could be for for while we wanted to have a descriptive name. So we looked at physicians, dot Com Doctors Dot Com, and we actually tracked down the owners of one of these domains and they wanted several million dollars for the domain name. And and we were finding the company ourselves. So that was out of the question. So then we just sat in a room and we brainstorm a list of fifty or one hundred names, and then started eliminating names until we arrived at Dr. What does it mean? or it doesn't mean anything which was the WTO bit we could. There were zero search results. Okay. There's no meaning behind his ACH. There's no meaning behind and and in hindsight it was precisely the right thing to do because it really was a blank slate for us to fill with with meaning and really build a brand around. Zero such as October we started. It address nate the right lake once you know that it takes more than three weeks from picking up the phone and dialing for doctors till you actually see someone you realize Oh, this really not much else that we have to wait so long for to get. And this is more important than most of these other things you already have. Fantastic access View Magin. If air travel way that healthcare workers that wouldn't be an expedia that wouldn't even be Delta Dot Com that would be individual phone numbers for every plane. Imagine. If that happened, you know a half the planes would fly empty it would be a massive pain and that was actually the state of health care before sock. Is Amazing that that the nothing like this was out there in two thousand seven. I look at I. Think. In many ways you couldn't build it a much earlier. In the early days. When we went out there, we were the ones installing Internet of the doctor's offices. We. They they were a many times just migrating from a paper books to scheduling systems. We were at the cusp of digitisation for healthcare. We were just lucky in our timing to get this right in and start offering the service when that also happened. All right. So you decide to pursue Zach dock and it's the three of you. I'm assuming really just at the beginning and were you working out of out of one of your apartments? Did you guys rent space? No, we worked out of respect for. Many. Times we came to make yet the nicest apartment and and we could bring breakfast Burrito and bake him up and you know the the reality is that we originally had a pretty ambitious launch plan right so we got together around July. We wanted to launch by December of two, thousand seven. Something interesting happened were nick send an email suggesting to look at what was then called techcrunch forty. Take is is now a household name but the draw for us back then was there was a fifty thousand dollar prize now it's called tech crunch disrupt think. So it's a major a startup competition. It's a startup competition and we were the first class of this was much less known be budgeted two hours to fill in the application in really which will send it off. He didn't think about it anymore that there was an early July and early August we've heard that we had been accepted, but there was a complication we'd have to be ready by September eighteenth or. That was three months sooner than we had originally planned to launch. So you'd have a live website by September that is right that is right with doctors with doctors, right So we actually debated for a few hours whether we should even tried to go for that but we ultimately said, yes, we can get the website working and we wanted to have enough doctors just a bars wouldn't look pathetic. Brayden. Coded Night Neither Day and nick really busted his but he did the patient facing side of the website and that was the programs. What was potentially even harder because we're tried to launch a marketplace was to actually get the initial supply on there and remember the website wasn't there yet so. Tires ended up going door to door for doctors offices. Excuse telling them a powerpoint page, and this is really a testament to cyrus sheer willing determination if you think about what it means to really start a company early on, there's nothing to show right you may be a powerpoint but there's no website there's no patience. There's no other doctors no social proof and it has to run on passion and very clear that that is Cyrus superpower. He just went to random doctors offices or he had like a list of doctors offices and he started kind of walking block by block. Well, there's a lot of walking involved a we launched in Manhattan so you can literally go down the street and you see. The signs and you walk in. And he was basically saying look, it's a way to connect you to patients. How was how many by the way? What was your objective? How many doctors do you need to sign up to have this website look okay by September Between six and ten was our goal. Okay. So just doable it is a was extremely hard really. Is telling doctors is one of the hardest things to do why were they saying? Well, first of all, it is baby very hard to even speak to a doctor they are being shielded. Their time is very valuable. Office managers are trained not to let anyone talk to them to protect the doctor from people walking in selling them stuff shirt them. Secondly, they many didn't want to give up control over their calendar which has to write. We ask them to post times that a patient could book into it and it was just a far fetched idea for many of them the patients would actually do this. So he got a lot of knows he got a lot of knows. He'd go there and he just simply not leave until he got a chance to speak to the doctor and a few times. It was even escorted out by security. I really think one in a million could have put this off. I mean was he going to particular kinds of doctors or was he generally focused on an Internet general? Practitioners Ob sobe began with dentists Okay. Because our thinking was that. People go to dentists most often, and we wanted to make sure that we have an offering that is relevant for patients as often as possible. I. Got you so so eventually unassuming, you do get what six to ten or how many did you get by September of two thousand seven Eight. In the meantime, you inequity doing the back end stuff you were doing the coding and building the website does right and as you were building it. How did it look? So. The bit that Nick Build looked awesome for the time I think. It was impressive. We were. Very. Satisfied that we had a scroll bar that we had a map that we had back then already the insurance selector and a lot of feature that. Weren't to be found really anywhere else. All right. So September two, thousand, seven, you are ready to reveal. This service at. Tech. Crunch. And Doth Review present or did did Cyrus kind of wishy the spokesperson? Cyrus. I presented Nick stayed behind in New York to make sure that the less the website was actually up and running This is in San Francisco that you went to the we flew out to San Francisco and So we lost sock talk in front of Eight, nine, hundred people. A lot of them were journalists when the judges opened up with feedback guy covers ocoee who we newnan in valued. As embezzles forever apple he came out to said he he didn't get it. He would never use this in front of everyone right and. His direct load something like honestly Oh, it just never occurred to me to go to any doctor that's really burned in in my brain and what was worse is that he seemed to be right we didn't get a single booking. We were hoping that this PR would get us out of our initial batch of users, right because your other. So many tech journalists there. So you know the publicity may be would would would lead to bookings and that was the hope but. It actually took three days before regard our first legitimate a patient, and and in the entire first month, we only got five bookings. You come back from San Francisco and. You know you had Guy Kawasaki. Say I don't I would never use this service? I'm sure he feels differently today but man maybe then Ezio said that but did did you come back feeling like like dejected like losers or or were you excited like how did you feel coming back? While you know I think we obviously hoping we would eventually get more bookings and In the beginning you probably refreshed. The Bookings Report Hundred Times a day by as we were thinking through what we realized. It was really a typical two sided marketplace challenge It's just a classic chicken and egg problem. You need the supply to get the demand and you need the demand to entice them supply and for dark was even trickier. Right when you think about it, healthcare is hyper local. Very complicated. So you have to match. Supply and demand on a Zip code specialty level, and then we have thousands of insurances take. Until we realized that our odds of actually finding a patient that wanted. An offer there. Quite low, and so the best path forward was to methodically build up supply, and so we just kept going put up a huge map of Manhattan on the wall, and then a sleep put little flags on of where the doctor's brother we're on the website in which insurance is accepted and we just we knew the perseverance. Is the name of the game. Back in just a moment how oliver and Cyrus Begin to drum up interest in stock and how they even start to raise some money at figure out how to dress differently, stay with us guy rows and you're listening to how I built this from NPR. Hey everyone. Just a quick thanks to our sponsors who helped make this podcast possible I to epic provision maker of epic bar beef was nature's idea the epic bar was. 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A lot of their offices especially back in two, thousand, seven or sort of technologically in the Stone Age. There was incredibly complicated to sink the doctors calendars with ours. Because none of the software was actually made to sink. Were even in the places where we had syncs up and running, we would frequently get. Feedback while the punishment didn't happen because the doctor wasn't available and we really couldn't figure out why this was the case because when we did screen chairs with the office to their calendar and and our calendar, it was identical right and couldn't figure out why that's happening. So I decided to sit next to the office manager I went there and got to know him and his family photos of his dog. I fixed the printer taught a better strategies to play minesweeper still couldn't figure it out. Until one day, the doctor would come out and she'd say, Hey David I'm out next Friday. And then what does David do does he go into the calendar and block out next Friday or does he take a post? It note On a doctor out next Friday and sticks this too is monitor. In the real world. These post it notes, of course happen and but once you know that Matthew Friend, you can start filtering this out and that's one example they were literally a thousand point, one percent solutions that we had to figure out to make this work. Wow. That sounds I'm getting exhausted. Just hearing about that because this is like even like Google calendars, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was that was early days and what we were extremely focused around were making show the experience was fantastic. If something went wrong, we fix it. Right. So I was our customer service I personally would call the doctor and and confirmed the appointment was all said if it wasn't I, personally contact the patient to let them know and then I would offer them. Amazon Gift Card alongside with an apology those actually one case where it didn't catch a patient in time. and. The were in the subway to the doctor, and so I raised them to the doctor's office and picked up a bouquet of flowers on the way there and met them in person to apologize. And that was really a turning point burs. The service has to work and we need to be have this patients I attitude in in terms of how it works completely ingrained in the company. All right. So you clearly need to kind of grow this Were you offering this service doctors for free at the time? Initially. We for free by we eventually started charging fifty dollars per month. But Sam doctor you come into my office and you say, Hey, if you pay me I can bring you more customers. I would be skeptical I would've said to you you who whose, who even knows about you. You'RE GONNA you're asking me to pay you money for Phantom bookings for maybe no customers I mean did some of the doctors say Many. The US summarize our sales challenge. Right? It was very hard because even if you wanted to, we couldn't easily share how many patients their competitors are down the road God like that was something that was confidential. All right. So you are you got this chicken and egg problem. Not, enough people signing up and he gets skeptical doctors but you know that the service could really benefit the doctors, but you also need them to pay for because otherwise you know but business. Meantime at a certain point I'm assuming you guys start to think we'd better go out and look for money if we're going to really make this thing work. Yeah. Yeah. That that happened in the spring of two, thousand, eight we decided we raise series. And we we make the rounds we get in front of a number of the big name, BC New York the also go to Sandhill road in impel. Toho Santo Road we leads and road initially were very successful at all we got Polite knows. and. Ray No feedback control someone took us as I told us you know what the idea seems. Good. But you're consultants I'd and the perspective of its consultants can't get anything done and what realized is that even though we had both founded companies before our Mackenzie Pedigree in our keys and button down shirts, they were really hurting us, and so we wait rank Khakis and button down shirts. It sounds crazy. Were they pleaded pants or were they at least nine pleaded please. Yeah Yeah. Yeah we after hearing that feedback We very quickly just went to the next gap and bought jeans and t-shirts and from that on the combos with VC's when but a lot better. So you went from McKinsey consultant look to this are the tech casual uniform of jeans and t-shirts that that's exactly right and we introduced ourselves not as NBA's and McKinsey Consultants but we introduce ourselves previous entrepreneurs that are starting their next company. was was anyone biting? Were there people who were like? Yeah there's a great idea I'm in. So interesting enough we had raised some money from. Friends and colleagues, and many of those they invested in US business plan unseen just based on the fact that we. Were giving up our careers at McKinsey to pursue talks. So that felt really a great. and. As we started changing how we appeared in how we introduced ourselves to venture capitalists L., we started to get offers and so in August of two thousand eight, we ended up raising five million from KHOSLA ventures expeditions mark. Wow Mark Banya Jeff bezos, and Venus is. All their. Funds are in which sounds like a lot before you WanNa do it's actually. Kinda limited because you still it seems to me in two thousand eight even though you have five million dollars a lot of money you still have this problem which is you've gotta get. Customers, and then to get customers, you need lots of doctors had lots of options but to get doctors, you need lots of customers booking through the site to you do that precisely D- These five million dollars per lily earmarked for making New, York, work, right, Miguel, I market work but. immediately after raising the money the financial crisis hit. And You may remember there was rest in peace a memo that went around about startups, right? Yes. About start ups, never being able to raise money arrested in peace good times. So we got this job is to make the money stretch in. We probably learn not during this time This was really our first go round making hard choices and what I want to be frugal and not to do things we can't afford and We learned to not let money replace critical, thinking and creativity. But now we continued to grind away at New York and at some point felt while if you want to get. To the next level we have to prove. Dr Isn't just a New York City phenomenon. Right? We had to prove that it would work in a second city But at that point, we didn't have the money to do this anymore, and by the way you're still your approach was still the same. It was door to door. That's right door to door and how how you building awareness about the about the fact Zach existed with customers with potential customers. So we it was day very difficult to get someone. To the website. Yeah but when they did. They loved it because it was such a step change from how healthcare used to work for him. Right they used to have to pick up the phone and wait on hold and then plays scheduling. tetris. With the office manager, can you do Wednesday morning about Thursday noon? Friday afternoon, and now they could do the same thing in a minute and have complete overview about the ability patients loved it and they told their friends. So we we started to get word of mouth. Going, and so we saw New York really taking up and we felt like, okay, this does this go into work in New York. At a minimum rate, but we also realized that it took us a fair bit of time. And money to get it going. In New, York and do we couldn't with the money we had left from the five million easily expanded into a new city at the same time. Raising money was going to be difficult because the next generation of investors wanted to see that it works and other cities as Walter. So we were a little bit in this catch twenty, two we ended up. Applying to. Force boost Your Business Competition Four. Forbes has his competition as sell to where they give away money right to they were promising a hundred thousand dollar prize. And at this time. We won. And Yeah what did is they gave us one of these large publishers. Clearinghouse is sex and very useful actually used to cover a hole in one in our only conference room. There was a hole in the wall and we covered it with that. At, this point you are, you are working out of an office, not not an apartment at this point we were working out of A. Shared Office space we work. Yeah. So they had given us publisher clearing house is is check but they fail to give us the small check for three months and we were getting really nervous, but it would still get it but. But ultimately, we got that one hundred thousand dollars and that's what we used to launch and our second market in DC in Washington DC and would did it require you guys to move down there or were you did you hire because I'm assuming you had to? A lot of your early capital was going into sales. Business Development hiring sales reps, is that right? Right, we had a couple of sales reps at the time. A. Very first employee ever was a sales rep is still with the company today and He was great. He figured out how to. Really charm his way. To the doctor. So there were no more security guards escorting anyone out. When did you? I'm assuming that even in two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, and beyond we're not yet profitable. Far From It? Yeah. Far from it right because it's a capital intensive business. Yes. We obviously invested heavily in customer service wanted patients to have a great experience. And we had a quite sizable engineering team because that was actually a major engineering effort. So what started to happen when did you start to kind of see? A real turning point. Yeah. So we we we had launched New, York successfully with. Years. Of hardwork, we've gotten it off the ground is transported that to DC at work well, in DC, and now he said, well, why are we not in more cities and so we actually we raised serious be with fouled respond and We used to expand off the East Coast Francisco then Chicago and we just got better better at it. So we then ended up raising serious and two thousand eleven from Goldman NTSC, and we primarily use this to grow our sales team and sign up more more doctors in from two thousand eleven till two thousand, thirteen, we launched roughly thirty new cities I read that by by two thousand, fourteen would covered. Like forty percent of markets in the US, which is huge I mean that's right I mean that's a huge number of cities. And in that year evaluation. Of tzakda. Past Billion Dollars I mean that's That's pretty remarkable i. mean you were kind of on this like really rapid trajectory and you a pretty straightforward model right and you were charging doctors a flat fee every year and then. They could take all the bookings they wanted and I think that by that point like by two thousand, fourteen knew it was not cheap. It was expensive viewed really raised the price it was like three thousand dollars a year, right? Something like that. Yes recharged Dr Three thousand dollars a year and and there was a flat fee. No matter. How many bookings Actually facilitated for them and and the reality was for some doctors that got a lot of bookings that was a great deal. Yeah. But but there were also doctors that God a lot fewer bookings and for them that fixed cost was actually too expensive and some of them were starting to leave the service, and so we got into a situation that required us to invest a lot to stay where we are and then invest even more to continually grow our overall provider base, which means we had to build out a massive sales team to always sign up more doctors right and. Some point during this time L. Nick actually ran an analysis showed that it would take several years if ever fries to make our money back on on many of the doctors we signed up because you would have to sign up. X number of hundreds of thousands of doctors paying that amount every year. To make your money back to to make sort of our the cost of the sales team back. Wow and L. it. This was pure that would make us dependent on external capital for our very long time, and now it's a clearly there are many companies that have taken. Grow fast at all costs approach. And They Held onto this forty extended period of time by L., it clearly puts talking to a dependency to. Investors in their mind says, yeah. So. Meantime. You know I I from what I understand. There's disagreements I mean there there are you know the leadership team including Cyrus he he's I. Think he's he's sort of his position as the flat fee model is actually the best way to go is that a fair assessment of of his position? Yeah. I think that's right. I. Mean there were two fundamentally divergent ways held the business could go forward right. One way was to continue to work on optimizing the unit economics of our subscription model and the other way was to think about how to make it more transformative leap and then find a new more profitable. And more sustainable model and. Their. Look I can certainly understand The reluctance and taking this leap if companies rechange their underlying business model once they have a certain scale and then live to tell about it, right. We know the names of the companies that have done this net flicks, but from DVD's to streaming adobe. From box software to the cloud, but there's not a lot of companies that do that. and. Needed to make a choice which which direction I wanted to go. And and I should say over that. Became intensely personal for you because hugh and Cyrus really disagreed on on on the direction of the company should take. Steps down he he left the company and you moved into the role of CEO. Those right and what ask you about this neo. Beauty's in the flies of this show is its simplicity and we talked to one person or sometimes too. It's a single narrative, and so we don't have cyrus with us to tell us what happened but I wanna ask you about this time because. This was your co founder. This was your partner This is your friend and he was leaving the company. How did you feel at that time? I all I can say was a very hard and very emotional period for everyone involved and It was certainly a departure But how was through that given these two divergent choices you you couldn't. note, both of us could be useful to talk and. I have to imagine that for for period. China. was sort of the friendship. Look been we were very close we. Were not only friends we had worked for eight years believe together fourteen hours a day, and we probably talked more to each other than to anyone else in our lives but you know. Still touch from time to time and. I think he's joining us on from sideline. He still at prison million owner of the company Yeah, he's still. Here's the thing I mean we've we've told stories about breakups we've had we've had episodes were there were married couples who split divorced but continued the business e O products. Susan Griffin Black and an her husband Brad They continued the business stacy's pita chips continue the business after the divorce sold it for a quarter billion dollars. You guys were worth value to one point eight billion dollars at this point. was was ever party that just thought you know, God look at what we're doing on the core we're going and. I mean did you in service it down and say you know this thing is just growing and? Let's just figure this out. I think the challenge is that it's not as if there was an article way to decide what the right path forward is. As long as investors wanted to give us money growing all costs was yeah. Fine Strategy. The question was just how dependent you wanted to be on the continued goodwill of investors. It sounds like you were tired of going out raising money. You didn't want to do that anymore. Oh, not at all but I think you want to raise money from a position where you know what your turn to is and and. It wasn't clear that the business model would work in in a way that that we could just flip a switch and be profitable. Yeah. So. That was a tough year for you. Two, thousand fifteen. There was an article in business I think business insider, and it was about the sales team. It's October that year and it was. It was some allegations that you know Pete member sales team using adderall even cocaine they were under immense pressure. They were working all the time when you saw that article. And I'm not saying you even aware of any of this. You may not even aware of it but I. have to think that that article really alarmed you and and maybe even embarrassed you. Look A. There were a number of articles in two thousand fourteen fifteen. Didn't absolutely get everything, right but Budweiser I can say is that At. The time doctor had their sales team and we're. Getting very quickly and Your maybe maybe. Too focused on. L. Hitting targets and. Not. Focus enough on creating a strong culture the I hear these stories from six years ago from from time to time and from from now from candidates and and really every time. This happens like a Gut Punch. Because, this we know we're completely different company now. On on so many levels, but clearly, you saw that in new that you had to change something. While yes, I look I l there's a there's a couple of things about this. Right? We are a technology company, but we had said ourselves up too much about. Instead of writing wins and really too little about being adaptable and darning and and building the trust required to try things that now pet the risk of failure. and. So one of the first things I did is to change core values. You know to emphasize those behaviors each one of our values adaptable, not comfortable and other one is progress before perfection learners before masters right and. We only kept really one DIA CONSTANT DEL patients I. Personally that. That was more of the culture that I thought was right for Doc to succeed on many dimensions. So, you take over the company it's got high valuation, but you're still not making money and you know that you've gotta change the underlying business model you're never gonNA make money. And from what I understand this is the beginning of what you have internally described as the second founding of the company. That is right. That is right and that basically happens in in two thousand, eighteen you you launch this new business model where instead of the the dollar membership fee. Basically, you would charge doctors a lot less like two hundred or three hundred bucks, but then every booking you, you would take a cut from that booking. So like a travel agency. A little bit charge for new patient booking. So the existing patients to practice we made free but yes, there was the fundamental idea and. It sounds like such an obvious thing to do but but here's the problem with it and why why are we thought it was incredibly risky to try this. Our best customers that had been on for a long time. They got lots of pockets right and if we start charging them per bookings, their prices go up very significantly in some cases ten times more and that seemed. Competing, insane to us. In. Particular because when we talked to other companies that were at gone through similar changes and even pricing experts, they're number one advisor was make sure whatever you do never charged your best customers more and frost would be precisely. The opposite. In the thing that was counter-balancing this in our mind was well, maybe we'd be able to bring on a lot more doctors because the barrier to entry is now much lower that was there was the back and forth in the team to figure out whether that's the path we want to want to go. So, this is still a risky strategy because you're depending really on new bookings because the two hundred dollar annual fees dramatically lower and I have to imagine in year one, you actually saw drop in your revenue in the year one of of this curve. Second founding. Right. Well, it's from a risk profile worth at that. Right the warriors that you lose all your best customers in with it, all the bookings day used to be getting. and. So we needed to be ready for a very significant drop in bookings and revenue and the second Challenge was here that. The beauty of this approach modest and we got all this money upfront right and Sharon. Now to bond, we're getting paid after the booking with with a thirty day payment periods, we had a huge working capital requirement to make that happen. So did you see a drop and revenue in two thousand eighteen when you rolled this out? No we didn't because we actually didn't see the doctors leave the way that we hit on -ticipant did in fact, you know while we had very much worried that they would be upset and some of them certainly were upset. We were providing so much value to them that. You know what? What took you. So long I knew as getting a great deal all along. So that worked really well, and we had piloted in Georgia initially in April. Two thousand eighteen and then that had worked. So we we then all allowed in Colorado a few weeks later that work to, and from there we went to Washington state and again, very positive results and after these three days. Okay Great. We know this works does it out in our largest most important market? Let's go to New York and that and terribly horribly wrong. They the doctors in New York. Not only were so pissed off they actually I read. mounted a change dot org. Petition I. Don't know what to to to end this practice or something. They were really mad. They were really really mad and I guess you guys responded you said, are we won't we won't roll this out in New York for a while. Yeah look in New York. We. Facilitate Roughly, one in five new patient doctor relationship in the entire city on dock and so. The economic impact for the providers in. was much greater than for the providers in Georgia Colorado Washington. So yes, to give you one example, there's a dermatologist and so and he paid under the ultimate model ten doctor say paid thirty thousand dollars and under the new pricing model, his cost was going to go up from thirty thousand dollars to roughly three hundred, forty, thousand dollars. Wow. So what was your response to that? I? Mean it seems like a pretty reasonable. Concern. Yeah. So look after the conversation with the Dermatologists I. Actually. Put down the phone and I thought you know what? He's right. And so I pause and we regrouped and. We did a couple. Of things during this time, like the first one is we just went on a listening tour. You know we talked to provide their feedback and we just adjusted our this plan to give providers a much longer grace period to decide whether the wants to addition to the new model or not, and then. So then we read on New York six months later and and when dramatically better. So the strategy works and you see results from the strategy pretty quickly like within a year. Within a year, we had we finally at some incredible momentum was really going better than we had expected in our wildest dreams. Our existing client went down to essentially zero. I mean people still retire and and move jobs by no one really left the service and we were adding more and more providers because the barrier to entry was low and So in two thousand, nineteen we began growing profitably. It sounds like two thousand and nineteen was really the banner year. Two thousand nine hundred was a was a fantastic year and honestly we had so much momentum coming into twenty twenty and feel like, Hey, we worked really hard for three years and profitable and now the sky was the limit until. Tells Sam until March of two thousand twenty. Two Marjo twenty twenty and that's. That's really maybe the third founding DOC right? Well, I want to ask you about March twenty twenty because. Your Business is based on people booking with doctors and going to the doctor I have to imagine your revenues must have plummeted like every other industry like I mean doctors offices are still in most of the country. Slow or are trickle of patients coming in. With the lockdown started happening we saw impersonal bookings declining anywhere between fifty to ninety percent by the end of March I'm not surprised and lot of that buys I was getting was to. Lay off people and make sure that we hunker down to weather the storm but I saw an opportunity to build windmills, right so I thought well, we need to be there for our patients. We should be expanding into telehealth and I need every team member to help me do that and so we. Really went all important and supporting video visits and I'll probably June eighteen began redesigning the tire marketplace support virtual care, and so we actually released. Doctor Video Service and we made this available to. Any. Physician whether they are on soccer. for free. And by the way head, you plan to do this. How long would would I mean I'm imagining if you said in in February district I really want to focus on telehealth Would you have expected that by May would have been ready to go. Absolutely. Not I think what has been really fantastic to see is how? We really finished two years of roadmap in two months. Wow, and it's great because it's just gives us a window on what the next phase of doctor will be and really looking forward to that in my mind were the point were Amazon started from going. Books to also adding CDs. We have just gone from doing only in person to also A. Doing telehealth and I can't wait to see how this unfolds. It sounds like you. Might be reading between the lines but. You. Really, admire and respect your co-founders particularly. Cyrus and the work that he did to to build this company but I wonder if do you think that you will a I dunno, rekindle your friendship i. Is it something that is in the cards because a break is? Is Emotionally, it's hard Mesa really hard. Yeah, look I Do I think we'll work fourteen hours together again maybe not but you know I I've gotten through tougher breakups and reconciled in my past, and so I think we are we're in good shape and honestly know we are meeting were talking from time to time Yeah. We both have things to do and places to be so we're. Not, hanging out all the time. But it's now also five years ago So We are we're merch focused on making our join the baby successful. When you think about your journey and All Its happen to you how much do you think this has to do with? with luck and how much do you think it has to do with with the hard work you put in your your skills. Well I'm going look I I believe that there's really three ingredients to success. In order importance there are lock the talent, then hard work and. The only one. That's comedian. You control his how hard you work right and Now working hard to gives you more shots on goal It helps his day on the top of what you your talent allows and absolutely restarted at the right time the right place. So What what I'm proud of an all that journey has only that yet when we were wrong and when be had to revise and. When we needed the grit to actually make it work. I L we lived up to that and and that's really The all that anyone can ask themselves to. Oliver Karaz co-founder of Zach Braff by the way, remember how they originally wanted to call it physicians dot com or doctors dot. com. COULDN'T AFFORD THE MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG to buy the domain name. DOC DOT COM wasn't only available the price they paid for that domain name. Six Bucks. and. Thanks so much for listening to this show this week, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You could also write to us at H. I. T. at NPR DOT Org. If you want to send a tweet, it's at how I felt this or at Cairo's can also follow me on instagram that's at Guy Dot Roz. Our show was produced this week by Jet Anderson with music composed by Tina. Bluey. Thanks also to Julia Carney Candice Limb Neva grant and Jeff Rodgers I'm guy. Roz even listening to how I built this. This is NPR. Black voters play a crucial role for any Democrat who seeks to win the White House but some big devise amongst that block and some serious influence

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Obesity Raises the Risk of Death From Covid-19 Among Men

WTOP 24 Hour News

00:27 sec | 1 year ago

Obesity Raises the Risk of Death From Covid-19 Among Men

"Obese men are more likely to die from the corona virus than overweight women KCBS TVs Candice Crone, researchers examined the health records of nearly 7000 patients at Kaiser hospitals across southern California who tested positive for the Corona virus between February and May. Obese men age 60 and under our atleast three times more likely to die from the virus. Woman had no increased risk of death associated with obesity. This is CBS News.

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Rapper Kanye West files documents with federal electoral commission

Tim Conway Jr.

03:34 min | 1 year ago

Rapper Kanye West files documents with federal electoral commission

"People have been hitting me some on Twitter at Mr Mo Kelly. Am R M o k E l L Y and some have been hitting me on instagram at Mr Mo Kelly. Saying that Hey, Mo. Because news broke today that Kanye West Air quote Filed a document with the Federal Election Commission today. Which makes the presidential campaign air quotes. Riel. And when you file your paperwork with the Federal Election Commission, you can then raise money. For your candidacy. But pay attention to the particulates in the details, and this is coming from Fox News. Fox News obtained the rapper statement of Candidacy Candidacy document which list his party affiliation, as you know. Either Republican or Democrat or Green Party. Libertarian. No enlisted as BT Y. Which stands for birthday party. And the committee's name is also listed on the document as Kanye 2020. In other words, it's a super PAC. It's not actually him and the document was filed one day after a statement of organization was submitted to the S E C with West name honor. We talked about that yesterday. Do you know how much money this presidential campaign air quotes has raised so far? $5000. Are you to suggest that if Kanye West were actually running for president He could only muster up $5000.5000 dollars. I'm quite sure they can get $5000 at a Kindle Jenner's piggy bank. They could get $5000 in the sofa at the Kardashian with household They can get $5000 just by sneezing. What you're saying that if this is an actual real campaign, they only have $5000 in this account. Don't even take my word for it. I always say, Look at the other indicators. If you were to go to Kanye West Twitter right now, and it's e why E. That is his Twitter account. You will notice that he has nothing to say about anything. He's not accommodating about politics. He's not commenting on anything going on in entertainment. He is not even really. Tweeting. He has no visible presence in a media sense at all anywhere. We could go back in speculators. Two reasons why, but it is indicative of someone who's not actually running for president. And I'm quite sure their political forces out there who would like to turn this into something to possibly siphon off votes from one or the other presidential Candice the legitimate ones. Sometimes on on General Election Day. It's not gonna happen. Maybe Kanye West gets on. Two or three states on the ballot. It's not going to impact anything, and I know people are are wishing this to be rial for whatever reasons maybe Europe Kanye West Music fan. Maybe you're just wanting for some sort of chaos. And you hopefully will have Kanye West in the midst of everything and make it difficult for either Joe Biden or President Trump. Maybe you're just rooting for that, because we live in a time where Chaos is the order of the day. Every single day. Something strange seems tto happen within our politics. And so this may be easy to root for is easy to root for the car record, the train wreck or something which you know, because it is 2020

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The Limits and Possibilities of Journalism

MEDIA INDIGENA : Indigenous current affairs

04:40 min | 1 year ago

The Limits and Possibilities of Journalism

"There's a convention in the world fiction known as the unreliable narrator, a character whose very much part of the story they're telling, and therefore, whose account cannot always be taken at face value because we know, they have interests at stake. It's a concept. One could fruitfully apply to journalism where interests and stakes like gender race, diginity or colonialism are rarely, if ever apparent and the reporting of news be that to audiences are even to reporters themselves. Would making those things explicit? Therefore make journalism unreliable given its long-standing complicity with the dominant social order. Maybe the better question to ask is how journalism can best grapple with its innate limitations. And yet as we see in the subtitle of Collison in Young's book, the possibilities of journalism also abound alternatives they argue have been largely generated outside the walls of mainstream outlets. Candice in Maryland. Thanks for sticking around for part two of this conversation. Amtrak at the pleasure to be here. Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks for having us. Yeah, yeah, well. Thanks for indulging me here in having this extended conversation. I do WanNa get to what can be done to repair remediate reform. Rehabilitate retrofit I. Don't know I don't know what the right word is. You'll tell me, but I still have some other questions to get into and as you know candice I'm want to ask odd questions, and so why stop now so? Let me, ask you. Candice is racism fact. Or Not An I'll tell you why ask because every time I. See it. It's slapped inside quotation marks whenever it's reported on as if it was opinion, not fact. Is Racism factor not and if it's treated as if it isn't how telling, is that on the part of those who do so and such an interesting question points observation about journalism. That e racism ends up being a claim that make as opposed to an observable experience documented. You know with much precision increasingly over the last you know I don't know century. Really it, but it comes back to you know. We talked a little bit about the National Geographic. Apology right they needed a historian to go through all of their coverage and say actually was racist. At documented. Analytical opinion from somebody who had gone through gone through all of their reporting. When in fact, right? I mean one of the interesting points. They actually make in the story that they do on themselves. Is that at time when they were reporting on the crowning of a King Ethiopia? Black. Men and women in the United States could not actually get into a an a lecture at national. Geographic place because everything was segregated still at that time right so. You know it's the same thing with objectivity. If you think about the way that the history of journalism has been told, we talk about the rise of objectivity, and how it emerged in the nineteen twenties, we'll in the nineteen twenties who had the vote who was able to fully participate in democracy? When you start asking those kinds of questions, it becomes untenable that the way that journalism has perceived itself as recording a story that gets better over time when you know the experience of many minority, visible minority populations marginalized populations. Indigenous populations have. Definitely had a really uneven experience with democracy with colonialism, and you know, have often suffered, and not have their stories told in anything like mainstream news, in fact, in most cases at least when it comes to indigenous people. We've had to start our own. Our own media right? If you look at the way that media has evolved e- you see the way that indigenous people have taken it up at every single turn including when it came to to digital media

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Millions of U.S. homeowners are behind on mortgage payments

Orlando's Morning News

00:23 sec | 1 year ago

Millions of U.S. homeowners are behind on mortgage payments

"Term homeowners like Haiti Fernandes stop up then her husband who's a catering company in Las Vegas or worried about their mortgage party is the mortgage to keep that up to keep the lights on by one count three point eight million American homeowners skip mortgage payments last month reporter Victor Candice's many lenders right now are offering forbearance which is basically if temporary grace period that lets borrowers pause your

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"candice" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio

Biz Talk Radio

08:37 min | 1 year ago

"candice" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio

"Candice you did it again today you what would you do for love to interfere that a sweet little bookstore guy from New York you might kill to get to the woman of your dreams right where you want or you know this if you did what millions of people died over the holidays they tune into this at you you too actually season to drop December twenty sixth it was trending because what else are we going to do but sit in front of Netflix right and but the other thing was training people are comparing him to Norman Bates and both the guy that that you see here here was Norman Bates and the Bates motel that's a series that came out a few years ago and also the original movie of course and people are saying No Way base is more of a psych out Dr John Huber is here to cast his vote welcome back Dr Huber he's with mainstream mental health and he's going to talk to us about psychopaths narcissists sociopaths who else to watch out for in twenty twenty mother in laws that kind of thing I'm gonna leave that with you doctor put it in your next holiday you know it's you started to watch you because I tried it before I save you I just finished season one using some of season one he watched all of it now not almost like I had the I like when I'm certainly okay so and we're not going to give you any spoilers for season two because we haven't seen it yet but what is this guy's deal narcissist and cycle paths and and maybe some other things that we don't really know what's his little alphabet soup of affordable well it's interesting you say that because within the psychopaths psychopathy you have narcissism that's part of the the complex the gives you that so he is very narcissistic he also really has no empathy for anybody else I mean it's all about him and what he wants and I think it's really ironic the way he goes through any points out well look at that you have a stalker but he's talking all these other people at the same time that's how he knows who's talking to who and it it it's almost hilarious I mean my my fourteen year old daughter is really you know she's about where I'm at and in the first season and she swears that all those people he supposedly killed who were actually suicides and things like that he didn't actually kill them I'm like I'm like you're fourteen come on you they they they they love to give us a little twist in this series and then dropped back in other ways so that's interesting she said that you heard it here first we'll see what season what happens in season three that's another thing trending pray for season three of you but this guy playing Joe Goldberg James Penn Badgley I think I just think he plays him brilliantly because you do sort of gain an affinity for him and he's got this internal monologue that that's cute and funny and a little durable for rom com lead he's sort of like dexter reminds me of dexter people that was was going to say you know the last time I really enjoyed that internal calm conversation was dexter yeah and it was interesting because with dexter I I had just started working with with psycho pass and and serial killers back at that point and that the ones I'd met had told me some of the same things that came out on the show when his self talk about why should he smiled during family pictures and things like that and I thought the writing was amazing for that and I'm getting the same feeling here the the writers know something probably more than they want everybody else to know about that not because they are when they do when exposed to them or or they've done their homework one of the other but they've done a really good job of that internal dialogue and what's going on in that dark side of human nature the cutest little us like a fast in American culture stern joked Goldberg when you say when he smiles in pictures we are talking about the internal dialogue these are the serial killers told you are the killers are psychopaths are patients were are you talking about people who say you know I didn't come naturally have this feeling I did teach myself to indicate I was feeling something so I would appear to be like normal people absolutely you know when when you go over to a friend's house or you know you're on the soccer team and the coach wants to take pictures to smile in the picture you know they had to be trained you know they have to learn why why would you do that I don't feel like smiling I'm not happy yeah will you want to look like you fit in like everything's normal and it's part of that brilliance of the successful psychopaths they're very intelligent superior intelligence in most cases because otherwise they get caught they don't become the human serial killers and things like that they may kill once or twice but they get caught because they don't have a mastery over that those human nuances like Ted Bundy like Jeffrey Dahmer like dexter did and now Joe the bookstore so tour guide it's interesting I was just looking here at the notes and in fact over forty million viewers did stream the first season of the year when it first came out so it is like I mean everyone's watching this thing it's one of the things that they do talk about also some of the things like black mirror making a murderer when they dropped during the holiday and people are home to watch and it really does catch on a becomes this whole part of culture that might not have as it were during back to work week or something like that so people probably thinking boy it's like one and how many people walking around our psycho pass but they don't not necessarily or killers stock what's the status on that well you know there's there's a lot of people out there who have a lot of the tendencies but we call this antisocial personality disorder that that's what we diagnosed him with to become the psychopath sociopath they have to have a definite police involvement there has to be some history of them actually committing criminal activity and what I'm thinking about that is for example you may work with attorneys who were amazing attorneys they never broke the law but they really didn't seem to have compassion or empathy for the people that they're going after ripping apart and they were staying within the guidelines of the law the parameters that we have for them but they don't ever break the law so you might say they have some antisocial traits or maybe even antisocial personality disorder they're doing what their clients want them to do but they never violate the the the law that we have so they don't become the cycle path the social path but they do fit in with that antisocial personality disorder and I use psychopath and sociopath as well one I'm just an older term but we use them interchangeably they mean essentially the same thing okay happened psychopath was my next question because in the past I have heard people try to make differentiation but basically the interchangeable you within the profession right and right now we we sat we call psychopathy right now and and there's some really great books out there on psychopathy if you got a few three four hundred dollars to blow you can pick one up at your local university graduate school and exercise on reddit you can really go down some rabbit holes we also got into a discussion over is Joe Goldberg going back to the lead character in you is he a narcissist and didn't want to say that all psycho pass our narcissist but all narcissists aren't necessarily set up cycle paths exactly being being a narcissist that's one of the components of that antisocial personality diagnosis you've gotta have that since that your superior over everybody else and you're more important than everybody else and that's one of the things we see with with antisocial personality disorder which is a prerequisite to have the the psychopathy and sociopathy and as you say the scene here back with Joe Joe as you said he's it's all about what he wants even though he thought he wanted to do what was best for back it was what he thought was best not what she said this is what I want he his feeling on what he thought was better for her overruled what she actually said so doc I love talking about this with you I want to hold you over and ask you what to watch out for the red flags about the Senate to pass an anti social people who walk among us if we worked with a narcissist or a psychopath or have them in our.

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Nashville: Vanderbilt AD Malcolm Turner resigns; Candice Lee to be interim

The Paul Finebaum Show

12:15 min | 1 year ago

Nashville: Vanderbilt AD Malcolm Turner resigns; Candice Lee to be interim

"Couple of days ago. We heard the news from Nashville. The now come. Turner was moving on and Candice Story. Leave was taking his place as the interim athletic director and we're delighted to welcome to the program in her first interview with us. I can't thank you and I know difficult time but you certainly have to take on the responsibility. You certainly have had an exemplary record. As a former player and captain and obviously as a top assistant in that athletic department. Thanks for being here and Great to have you on. Thank you so much. I'm I'm glad to be here. Thank you very much. So let me ask you. You're basically In operating position in this Athletic Department of key a key role and this happens and you are tasked now with with with being in charge. I know you're prepared for it but it's still had to. How did it feel to suddenly be handed the keys to the store so to speak? Well certainly It was unexpected but when presented with the opportunity. I was excited to step up and serve in this way. You know. I think we all are student. Athletes all the time that they have to be ready. Expect the unexpected and be Nimble and be flexible so it gave me an opportunity to demonstrate that I know having experienced the student athlete Role at vanderbilt playing such a prominent role there and then being in this athletic department for so long For the most part under David Williams leadership You learned a great deal that That would help you be prepared for this day. But but what do you lean on? Because it's a tough role not that there's anyone that doesn't think you're capable of it but it's it's a little bit lonelier of at the top isn't it now. I understand exactly what you're saying and David. I had the the opportunity to learn under him for several years and Had the opportunity to work with Malcolm and and just have built up very fortunate enough to have built up a great network across campus and this conference but also across the country Have have relied on that pretty heavily even prior to getting into this position. But certainly now understand that. I've got great resources at my disposal and I'm I'm not afraid to tell rely on folks and lean on people and just Do everything I can to be prepared for this challenge and I guess I would rather call it an opportunity rather than a challenge but I do know it's a big job and I've got great resources at my disposal. Kansas I'm talk show host. I don't know all the machinations of how schools operate in terms of Interim Your interim assistant chancellor as well as athletics director Where are we going to forget me? Where are you right now? In terms of the process for when this job changes from interim to to permanent at this point I can tell you. I am just focused on doing the job. It's not ultimately up to me What will happen with that interim title? I think that the part that I can control is just showing that as an athletics department and as a university we're moving forward and I'm happy to be at the helm and do everything. I can to support our staff. Our student athletes are coaches and and be what Commodore Nation expects us to be. But it's a great question. I know I understand why you're asking. I just know that I have to control what I can control. I think you could also I guess my next question. Because in in the press release it talked about the significance of your higher As the first African American and I I know we live in a world when when when that is not made as big of a deal as it used to be. Thank goodness but it's still part of The description and the school put it out. We didn't we didn't say it. They did Your reaction to that. I'm humbled I'm humbled by Just their reaction. The divers see from so many people who you know in some ways. It's unfortunate that we're still talking about the first and I Kind of to your point. But I've said this before and I will continue to say it. There's not a lack of talented people out there whether we're talking about women or men or people of color it's just been a lack of opportunity and so if if if this by just being in this interim role even provide more access and more opportunity for people who know are qualified and. I'm very thankful to be a part of that. You don't want to ask you about about that part of it Because I'm struggling to to be frank about asking this in terms of being the first woman because it. It is fairly shocking. And I know you. You're living and I'm just describing in twenty twenty to have that description and I'll just my wife who happens to be a vanderbilt person. I hear every day so if it had been if it had been a woman You know what I'm talking about there and talk about that responsibility because I know when you are the first you represent a lot of people who probably should have been there earlier but didn't give that didn't get that opportunity. Yeah I consider it a very big responsibility and I it's a privilege to sit in the role but with the role with the privilege comes great responsibility and and I think that again until we start talking about. So it's it's certainly wonderful to be the first but until you start talking about the second and the third and the fourth and the fifth. It's just it's just clear we have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. But you know I think that I feel humbled and honored to be in the space but I just WanNa do a great job so that people understand again. It is not the lack of people who are prepared to excel. It's just the lack of opportunity. Well let's get all the All the titles out of the way and talk about what we're going to do which is which is the reason why you're in this position and I think we're we're all interested in. I realize you're you're just you're just moving into it but but we we'd all like to hear about your thoughts and plans and visions as much as you've been able to put them together. Sure sure as much as I can put them together on in nine days. I I would say that you know. We've we've been really clear that we're not pushing the pause button and we had some great momentum coming into this academic year and even into this semester and that is continuing so our most immediate focus is on our strategic plan which we've been working on for several months now and are preparing to roll out publicly in the next probably couple of weeks. Certainly I expect. It will be out by the end of the month and that is going to Allow our fans and everybody to see what our priorities will be for roughly the next four or five years And then all of our decisions will flow from that. And I'm really proud to have been part of that process because it included just a a wide range of stakeholders so from alums to current student. Athletes Coaches administrators to board members to Central Administration. We it involved a lot of people and I think that that's really indicative of the fact that argument adversity understands the value that athletics can bring and I hope that it will allow people to raise their expectations of us. We're not afraid of those expectations and quite frankly we need to be a little more communicative and transparent about them. So this will be a great first steps first step towards that and I stress first step. Because it's going to outline priorities but that's when the work really begins and so- facilities will be a part of that and as we as we begin to codify those things will roll them out but I think what people can expect to see in the next couple of is okay. Here's the here's at least high level here. Are The priorities finally Kansas? You're in a unique position your your letter for years. You're captain of the basketball program. You have three degrees from Vanderbilt. You know everything that is said outside of that bubble all the noise about the commitment to athletics at a at a just a truly remarkable academic institution your doctor. You can testify to better than I can so so if you could try to answer some of that because the noise never ends about Vanderbilt's commitment to intercollegiate athletics. Now you're correct and you know I I I I hear it. As as as you've said and we know that we know what that commentary is I would say that I appreciate the passion that everybody has about us. There are high expectations of Vanderbilt Athletics. And I share that same passion and I. It has been made very clear to me that as a university we are moving forward and we are moving forward with the understanding that athletics has a great platform to unite all of us. You know we think if you walk around our building you'll see on some of our walls this mantra of the city the degree in the SEC. And we think that that's a proposition that is unique to us that that not only that we can sell but we believe in so in the backdrop of this fantastic city with a academically selective institution that second to none in the best conference in the country. I understand why everybody is interested and they just want reassurance that we're rowing in the you know we're going in the same direction and by all accounts every indication that I've received in this role is that's exactly what we're doing so I feel very confident about that. I'm sorry Paul no no I just. I'm inspired listening to you. I just can't wait to hear more so what I want. I want to close by asking you about what you referred to a minute ago. In terms of of of a reveal of of of of a vision plans. How how does that come together when you are you and your team. I mean it's not There are a lot of people that they're at. They're at work and putting this together. What is the process? So at this point we have gotten. We've gathered all the Intel. We've had all the interviews we've put structure around this and now it's a matter of of rolling it out and What will be a branded campaign and we will slowly start to tease out pieces. So that that's Kinda. We're just working on some internal details now. But that's what combination and everybody can expect to see in the next couple weeks that will actually start to articulate this and they public way and you said it involves Just like it did at the beginning. It's now involving several people to to conclude what is just a first step in the process. It's just a first step to get an announced in minutes a matter of US meeting those expectations which were really excited to do. Can destroy the joining us the interim vice chancellor for athletics at Vanderbilt. I hope you'll come back. We certainly appreciate your time today. Kansas thank you so much and I I really appreciate you and thanks for everything you do and I look forward to coming back. Thanks a lot. I can't wait all the best to you What a remarkable remarkable conversation there and I I don't really know what their next move is. But it's hard for me as just an observer to imagine that She will not be in that position permanently in fairly short period of time. What an incredible woman and we thank you for being with

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Kobe Bryant Merchandise Increases In Value But Not Everyone Is Cashing In

NPR's Business Story of the Day

03:38 min | 1 year ago

Kobe Bryant Merchandise Increases In Value But Not Everyone Is Cashing In

"Just may not be the most important aspect of the death of basketball star. Kobe Bryant but after the helicopter crash that killed him some sports fans are buying or selling Kobe Bryant Memorabilia. They face a choice. Try to profit from tragedy or try to honor his memory for member station K.. PCC in Los Angeles Austin Cross reports just minutes after news of his death. Kobe Bryant related merchandise started moving fast especially the sneaker pretty much the the same day that he passed everything that we had available was just gone. Candice Grey Works at Shoe Palace on Melrose Avenue in mid city Los Angeles that the following morning we got hit. Very hard with a lot of people will Hoping to be able to grab whatever they could as far as remembrance but while some shoppers were in it for the sentiment others were just looking to make a quick buck by flipping the shoes online on one website. Shoes made famous by Bryant began selling for well over double what they were just hours hours before. Not Uncommon says robbed at the Wharton School. Well when a celebrity dies there are certainly a lot of human sentiment involved nettle spike demand. Demand in the market isn't necessarily ready for that leading to higher prices on a range of items. But did you see says the spike is just that prices level out over time that means dealers and fans must choose whether to sell now or hold on. Kobe's were here put away scattered everywhere at secondhand sneaker shop cool kicks also in mid city co owners deal Shannon based on artists chose to hold onto them. The store stocks several models released over Brian's career but man it's after news of his death the to pull them from the shelves. We felt like all the resellers Sakaria Sakari store and take all of the items. Try to make money off of his name and we were opposed to that. Everyone wants to come in either looking for an item or they want to sell the item they have you know the profit because you know they see a market gets going increasingly crazy right now to over one hundred pairs now. Sit in a bathroom kind of has this almost like a church like feel in a way because it's like these are the last of the last is that yeah as I look because while we're doing this interview I'm just looking around at the difficulties because you remember the games. He played in wider release. You know it's hard to deal with. You know not having this. The the shoe released known why that person because Kobe. Bryant's Gone Ryan's fan base. In China and Europe made him an international figure translates to a world of collectors and fans hoping to get their hands on a dwindling number of relics. Now now priced out of reach for the average sneaker had for instance. GM says pointing to a pair of Kobe ones. We had a reselling seven hundred fifty dollars and now that I'm looking at it. This shoe who is not even an existing. You find this on line. The closest shoot in this is is the nine half palm for twelve thousand dollars this is. This is my first time. Actually seeing this champs and artists don't plan to sal anytime soon and they're not the only ones putting passion over Prophet Candice Gray who we met earlier doesn't just sell Kobe gear gear. She collects it herself number. Eight Jersey Number Twenty Four Jersey. I have the og pros. I have the pros. That just came out and she doesn't plan to sell they are. You're going to go and glass. They were going to be idolized by my children's children. I I don't want to have to worry about not having something that my kids can have tangible manageable to be able to explain the magnitude of who Kobe. Bryant was though prices may sore for fans like gray memories are

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Prosecutors order arrest of Bolivian ex-President Morales

All Of It

02:46 min | 2 years ago

Prosecutors order arrest of Bolivian ex-President Morales

"An arrest warrant has been issued for Bolivia's former president evo Morales he's wanted by the country's public prosecutor Mister Morales is currently in Argentina seeking asylum after he lost the support of the ministry and resigned in November a Latin America's at its kind these pants told me more about the charges everyone else is being accused of sedition and terrorism by the interim government in Bolivia ministers made public last month and audio recording of a phone call with the voice of a man appeared to be talking and he was talking to a cocoa union leader instructing him to organize blockades of a town to stop food supplies going in and of course the soldier hasn't been independently verified and Mister Morris has denied these charges and he said he's saying that he was set top forced to leave when the minute you make created lost the support after the presidential elections and and this Ole is a right wing coup but this does seem to look like a surgeon to sideline him and keep him out of the country at this very key time when they try to set up a new election so the time to sideline has got any support in Bolivia he retains a very strong following and particularly with his own supporters which is very large he was in power for some fourteen years and his party the moss has a majority in the Congress of Mister Mullis has said he won't be a candidate in the next elections which are being organize possibly and probably in the coming months but he has been invited to run the come the election campaign and it does look like a vote will put his weight behind it and you can do that so he will play question important role when is election dates do you come is going to be going to controversial in Chile if he's in the sidelines as will have power and be directed from the back a very difficult situation for the interim government tonight's hits president Shinin on yes has not been behaving like as an interim president which are normally that to organize election she has been engaged in the diplomatic and foreign policy issues spoken relations within a suite on Cuba which are too old allies of ever more now this is established relations with the US which is not being in place between Bolivia for at least over a decade and also there's been a campaign out to paint a room around this is a power crazed authoritarian and this is a time when she or the any opposition would have to tread very carefully with this big majority of massing Congress at the moment so there's a question there about where this interim government sees itself in the coming months Candice

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:24 min | 2 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"I kept saying if I don't remind myself to breathe I'm not going to breathe going to die. And I was like I'm gonna forget to remind myself, and I'm going to die, and I never did a four foot or ever terrible thing. You know, we used to do that. I was a huge fan of his I to this day. I don't like the taste of beer. I'm not a beer drinker. All this a bunch of friends that are like and. Yeah. But I was a huge Beerbaum guy with the funnel at the top. That's good. I love that was favorite way to take down to Imbaba beer because it was less. It was like brute force instead of having to actually taste would it not ninety ice taste like that ninety is is so good. Oh god. But it's even better in a ball. Although I could shot gonna beer if anybody wanted to challenge me to shotgun contest, I would win. How long have you known me? Over eighteen years seventeen years in how how many times have you seen me in a civil way order a beard a restaurant or ever ever ever? For fact, either say to the waitress or waiter. I'll take the most girly drink. You have with Subodh Hinna usually say, and or you'll say Jack on the rocks, and that drink will sit there until we get dessert, you'll pull the ice out and chug the whole thing. So I'm not a drinker ever. I typically only drink out of guilt because I feel like I need to drink with Candace. I definitely don't like beer, but I am a fan of super girly drinks. I liked the umbrella and the pineapple and the cherry in life is in as decorative Cup as humanly possible or I like Jack Daniels with a little bit of water in it. Yes. That's what I do. You know, pretty civilized guy. Not a drinker. It's too bad. Although it's probably good that you're not attracted to it. I can't I used to drink a little bit. When I was a kid Austria used to drink a lot. We were single men hitting the town. But like we went out the other night, and I had two or three drinks. And then what happened? Over the entire next. What happened between the two or three drinks? And the next day. I had a stomach ache before that. Got lucky? With who me I noticed. He's. Sometimes it's good to loosen up. I feel like I was because you were drinking because I was thinking understand how it works. Okay. Thanks, everybody. For tuned into this week's podcast. Are we doing questions this week? I didn't prepare or if it means either. If you think kinder's should start her YouTube channel, give her hell on Twitter to push her to do it. Also, if you're a youtuber or someone who makes videos helped me explain to Candace the values and virtues, and what's to be gained by actually forcing yourself to tell their own stories by editing her own videos. That's what it is think of it as telling a story, the only trouble is I agree. I believe you. I believe you, and I agree with you. And you're right when the fuck him, I going to do it for civil when I have my alone time in the mornings, and we're gonna spend doing you to do it without do profanity swearing. I think it's. You have to prioritize Honey you'll figure it's not that hard, and it doesn't take that much time. But if it were a priority of yours, also, it's YouTube. So it means you post one of these videos a week or once every three days and they're substantive, and they last forever can point to them and the same video that you make you can put it Instagram Twitter in and. Youtube the same video. All right. Practice in Miami. Did you download garage band? Yeah. Twitter face with. Did you? I'm movie I have I move. It. Looks very scary to me tonight. How to use it like I said, I'm just going to get a camcorder and an edit in camera not do that. What do you need to? Verve. Video humor. Do you want to just use your phone, which is fine? I'll use my phone you need moment lenses..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:27 min | 2 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"And I have like a very different sized waist and hips in everything from you. I'm not trying to look like you and these pant. Exactly, I'm trying to look like me in boys pants in near not. I think in your head. You have this vision of like cute girl, wearing guys old pants, and that such a cute thing that I saw to J crew catalog in nineteen ninety six the reality of it is it's much closer to like. It's just so far from cute. They don't look right on you. They don't fit your on top of that. These genes aren't meant to be washed. And they went through the washing machine. So shrunk all the wrong places. And they're all like, they look like kind of like old navy jeans from two. To where you're so pretty don't just tell me what you would like me to wear. I don't know. Do you want me to wear like name somebody who's style? You like that? You wish I could dress like. And don't say Kate beckons, Dale, I know you have the hot door. Yes. Who's the one that's platform me high swayed? That's her. She's a big not dressing like that. Okay. Every day. Are you joking? What for some context here? So I don't have to people don't think I'm a monster. Although I'm definitely definitely wrong in this argument. And there's no there's no Katie that. What does your mother say about your style? Dress hit give us some give us some specifics there Candice color in those color in that picture for us. Do you know something she said that I don't know your mother said the same thing to you about the way you dress since I've met you fifteen years ago care put on some makeup. She says you don't dress like a boy, and she says you dressed like a slob. So my mom won't leave the house without makeup. She blow dry your hair twice a week in. I would I'm not nails done in her feet done. I think the cutest thing about you is that you don't look in the mirror, and you don't give a shit. Okay. And I totally mean that like, you know, that like I teach his own. And I think everyone boys girls everyone in the world, should do whatever they feel like they wanna do to make themselves feel good when they leave the house, but different people have different tastes and different strokes for different for different, folks. Candice likes funny looking guys with huge noses. That's her thing. I do sunglasses all the time. But what I find myself most attracted to in a woman or are women who don't wear make up or a lot of makeup or any makeup. And I just think you're like the prettiest thing, you're also God-given won the lottery when it came to like, you know, you're not a big fitness person. But you have a really most amazing body ever. And the way you dress is like how did I say this morning? It's like you go out of your way to make yourself as not pretty as possible. It's not it's like you have that girlfriend who wears that red puffy jacket. That's so cute on her. She's so cute, and you go out and you buy a men's lumberjack round. I'm serious Brown coat that if I were people be like, well, I guess if keeps you warm Casey, it looks fine on you. It's such a warm coat. Okay. So we're a blanket. You looked like a you look like a coal miner when you wear that non acute charming way. And you can get whatever clothes you on. If like, you have all this beautiful handbags in your closet. I know 'cause I bought you have them as presents and you walk around with literally a burlap sack. It's a burlap sack. Then you have cute girl jeans. They're uncomfortable. They're tight pink sneakers. Our door -able wearing right now. Does Q long-sleeved shirt? You have on is adorable. What is this by the way, Billy really oh. But what's the cut? Who's who makes the blank, I'm telling you, you always find the best custom is it now just trying to confuse you. It looks good. But in any event, you you get it. But you only took those genes throw them out, and you said don't waste those and you put them on..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:17 min | 2 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"And I wanna make like south dulas into part. Yes now God. God his on every podcast player. There's an option where you can make it go faster or slower like someone talking slow some podcast. I listened to it like one point two five speed. So it's a little bit faster, and you had that vape pen, and it's as if someone pushed the button on Candice that turned you down two point seven five you're speaking yet seventy five percent, your normal marks shell gosh doing that for started this so kennison I spent a lot of time talking about her business Billy and where I've landed. And I don't think this is like some sort of genius astute observation I just think this is a very objective statement is that the magic of your company Billy is not in its products. But is in the brand as in at up all of the things that Billy represent. So you're amazing products like your aspirin ones like necklaces, and the jewelry, and then you're acceptable. Ones like your person, your assessories in your sweat shirts. And then you add up awesome your logo is. And how you've how you've implemented on the logo. And you add up like the personality that your brand has with social media and everything else all of that collectively equals the brand generically. And I think that the value of the brand exceeds the value of those products having sense like if you sell the products, he make X X amount of dollars a year that is not as valuable as what that brand represents. And so we've been talking about that. And then talking about how do you further that brand instead of just felt the products? Didn't make more products. That's definitely part of it. But where I was going with. This was the discussion we had the other night about you starting something. Oh, yeah. My we'd line. No, not your we'd line. Oh, what your YouTube channel? Yeah. He stony. I'm not gonna let you talk any. I'm not gonna use cotton. Into it. I don't know that I have time literally don't have time or the brain bandwith to edit them, even if they're a minute long. It's true. It's a lot Blake. Can I hire someone to edit them and pay them per per? Maybe the hard part is finding somebody who can like it goes like this through the process of editing. You would find your voice not to speak like like a dope. But you would find like would is that makes it clever and special and that such a nuanced thing, you know, that to give somebody else that responsibility. I think would mean you would never find that voice. You'd have this third party trying to figure it out. But we literally talking one minute info. I nobody's you're going to marginalize it like that. I'm not marginalized marginalizing it. I see the potential, and I see the bigger picture, and I wanna do it mostly because like it's very hard for me to get. It's more fun than than a Instagram story last longer and more interactive. And like, I don't know. I just like the idea of it. But. I don't I I know what I want. I have to tell somebody. This is what I want here is all record even on my own cell phone and give him the footage and be like cut it. But it's not a fifteen minute story. Do you think canvas starting YouTube channel is it? Good title for this podcast. Oh, yeah. People love that one funny. I think you're selling yourself short. And then I also think do you understand the metaphor analogy metaphor there like the monster under your bed? It's like you're laying in bed, and you're terrified because you think there's this huge scary evil monster under your bed, and you're so scared though, when you finally get off the bed, and you look under there, you realize it's like it's nothing to be afraid of. If I took the time I spent doing Instagram stories and put it towards YouTube, even Morgan could help me 'cause she. I think that if you were to look at the monster under the bed and teach yourself how to edit with really basic software. It would be so empowering and you get so every time you do it you'd like get a little bit better than you'd think of new idea..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

01:45 min | 2 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"We get into grammar doesn't buy me just liquids or does it mean like. Anything in your body? I don't know. But I will sit the last time. I used a word that you corrected me on. And then we looked it up. I was correct you're wrong. I wasn't wrong. We were both correct. You might be right about this. No, okay. Okay. Okay. So imbibe means to drink alcohol. That's the first meeting, that's the verb. But then it goes further where it says to absorb or assimilate that has nothing to do. And it goes further. You might right. You can't im- by a cigarette or cigarette smoke. Sure. But I guess I derive the term from alcohol the difference between drinking water, you don't imbibe water, but you buy alcohol s because the subtext for the definition of the word imbibe is to absorb. So your body is absorbing the alcohol for your imbibing alcohol, but you're not imbibing water because your body's not absorbing the chemical effects of water. This is making sort of making this are making this up. So by smoking of tiny vape pen, I feel like your body is absorbing the chemical affects of that vape pen abstractly God started. But I really wanna get into making CBD Steph. But I don't want to because I can't stand it where he will say CBD in the car on the way over here is thinking of cutaways to say CBD like Beedi what if it's like Beedi or Bidi, Honey..

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:22 min | 2 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"And like, that's it. And that sounds nice. But there's not a lot of depth that I have in. There's not a lot of depth there. And I guess I'm bringing this up now not to turn the conversation on me. But because you're forty seven Helder you forty one thirty eight something like that years old and all the damage that's been done between you and your mom. No, more damage can be done. But it's mostly you're mostly reflecting on what happened in your past. Right. No. I mean if passed is like four days ago. I'm just saying and on that note like on that idea. It's never too late to mend relationship. I truly believe that like you can have tabulation ship and all somebody has to do is say. I'm sorry. I'm going to try harder. And then it's like, that's all I that's all you want from your parents is for them to like show, you that they can be a better person than you are because their the parents, okay, then so determine this into something's something constructive. How can your learnings help him for me to be a better parent to my twenty? He's gonna be twenty one holy shit to my twenty one year old. Because he's wonderful. He's a greatest boy ever a love him to death. But especially since he went to college, I feel we don't have much relationship anymore. Well, this four I talk about you and your son. Can I just talk about me and my daughter? Oh, yeah. This is the same thing that entire question. But how what have it's the same thing. Go. Well. Recently. I lost my temper because she was being really bad. What did you do to her what she's much how to what did you gone half the time so partially because you're got no, she's a fighter. But what do you do to her when I'm not there nothing? I just said you're being really bad and like yelled at her kin, and then she got upset and she went to her room, and I went into the room after her, and I and I apologized for calling her bad. And I said I was really upset. You weren't listening to me. And I'm really sorry that I raised my voice, but next time can you try to try harder to listen to me and pay attention. It's really important if at any time when my parents lost their temper at me and called me names, beyond belief and insulted me beyond belief things that still burn to this day if any time they came to me and put their hand on my shoulder and said, I'm sorry. I just I just lost my temper, I don't really feel that way about you. I don't really think you are. X y and z. I don't really think you will become x y and z in the future like anything bad. They said they could just people make mistakes, and the hardest thing is when it's your own parent. And they lose their temper or they say things, they don't mean or. They spank you or whatever like I didn't speak for any. But like anything like, they lose their mind. They do something wrong as a parent as a child even at forty one. You still hope their parents will set a good example and be the better person and say put their arm on your shoulder and say, I'm sorry, I've had a really bad few months. But you know, I love you. That's all I want, and I won't get it. I will not get it. Both of our parents are kind of fucked up aren't there? It's just but don't you agree? Like, even if your mom came back to you today and said, I'm sorry for what I did as wouldn't happen. But what is she did never what I agree with you. I'm saying hypothetically, it would have a huge huge impact. It would change the way you think about our would change the way you think about Mandy. My mother has never assumed guilt or fault for a single thing in her entire life. And I think a lot of people would say that about their parents too. Because I don't know what it is what their generation the pride or like, they think I'm your parents. Therefore, I am right. No matter what. So. You're going to Miami with your on a girl's trip this weekend. Yeah..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:36 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"It's just like, it's relentless. And I realized like I have no alone time in my whole life in any event. In part of the reason why I got excited about this idea of driving spending four days alone in my cars. It's just like what a magical thing. Like listen to podcast and books on tape. And thank. Go for it. And I to finish all this off. Now that successfully convinced you to finish this off if you were to come to me, and I challenge is in say aversion to me of any version of what I just said to you about something that you need that involves you leaving me leaving the kids for your own personal well-being. I can assure you matter what it is you get nothing but support from them. I do know that I do know that it's so excited when you go away or even when you go to dinner with your girlfriends, but then you do throw that back in my face. It didn't are thing to do. Why do you do that? 'cause like when I'm an hour late for work. You you like raise the red flies wage war for me, not giving you notice. And then you do all the time. Like, it's no big deal. It's not a big deal. I just get mad at you. 'cause you get mad at me. That's healthy. I mad at the hypocrisy. Not the action that is healthy not healthy. That's part of the process. Well, I'm just telling you Vance that I probably will be home late tomorrow. What's tomorrow? It's Friday shit. What are you doing? It's a Friday. I didn't notice I'm giving you notice. What are you doing though? I'm Michael get some limbers go with who Morgan and Hannah, I don't want this to happen. He needs to be home. You're welcome to come. No, no. I don't want you going out. Just joking. Funny. Right. That you didn't joking seriously. You did. Yes. So shebab dinner for the going out there. Shebab dinner is a thing that ju- Jewish people. Do we're not super Jewish. But every Friday night, we try to have a family dinner. And when we're in South Africa who at candice's cousins right there kind kinda cousins. Yeah. Basically, and it was mixed company. And we're having Chabad dinner there. Okay. I've no idea under the conversation. But I mean, truly mixed company and a lot of older people at this dinner and something came up where somebody asked me about something else. And I was like, yeah. Of course back in high school. You know, we were on the wrestling team. Big open showers and me and the guys used to love wrestling around. And you know, we we dress in a lot of leathers and there were ball gags. And there's a lot of touching and. Kid is just shake your head because she does some just making a bad joke. But the older South African Jewish women in the room had no idea that I was joking in the looks of horror. Horror on their faces them, volunteering this information at Chabad dinner. That was one of the highlights the trip for me. No, no seemed in was seen doing down. There was a little sad. Right. He's the best poor guy. Shame. Know because he wants to come back to New York. But he's still like they're still a couple more delays. It has to deal with like some bureaucratic stuff. It's very hard. If all you have is a South African passport, but I'm happy Jay, married. Yeah. She's a she's a dear. I know what how K question. How are they? How's he going to be here when fiesta do all that paperwork to how do you do a long distance relationship? That's sixteen thousand miles apart. How many miles Capetown? I don't know eight. Eight miles is eight miles from here uptown. If you ask Francine, she'd say one hundred million PM. Oh one. Is what she said. Wake you up tomorrow morning says nine seven four O M. When she weighs one two eight two nine eight. Kids to nine eight. All right. So it was good. It's good to be back. We appreciate being back. I hope that I hope that some aspect of our sussing out of our marital problems was helpful today. It's to be back. I like doing this podcast we need to be much more diligent about doing it. Every week change w e to I even when we were in Cape Town, South Africa, the people coming up to us saying, I love your podcast. Please your podcast..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

03:19 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"Christmases happy and healthy as can be. I saw pictures pictures Starbust starburst all over the kitchen counter. You wonder why she won't eat real food remitted gingerbread house, and I hate Vermaak Ronin. She's she didn't even need to read house cheeses like so. Could not good. People all the people that say like, okay and Nisa so lucky to have Casey and she's just using him. I hope they listen to this and understand why have to put up with. Why is see now Kansas? Let's exam. See, I I I mean, I spend a lot of time thinking about this. I want understand why it bothers you in where keeps coming back to me. Is it bothers you because it's something that you feel like you could never do. If deals something you feel like you could never do. And I want to understand why you feel like you couldn't do it. You can't understand because you're a man that's a convenient excuse. It's not an excuse me. I'm very open minded it. Just for the same reason. You can't understand why not feeding. Francine candy is important. Shit. Casey. A we have a very cookies you bake cookies for breakfast. You're laughing right now. I know this is something that only a woman would understand I think that it's like biological, and it has to do with how our brains work just like guys always think about sex and girls always think about chocolate. Different thinking about sex Hannah's, right? I think it's much deeper. I think that we can talk about your parents. I think your dad's always on what he wants to do in your mother's never fell. She's had a sense of control. That's year issue. You have this thing. Where like you think? My dad is completely awesome muddy. There was something else. You personally said Rudd, no cool shit defeated is not you did say that. So you have this thing where you don't want to ever feel like I have defeat you feel defeated because of my control. Well, you have to you have to assert your. That's not totally untrue. Right. It's a pretty astute observation I think that your mother works, very hard to your mother is without a doubt sort of the alpha the decision maker in your parent's relationship is on a fair thing to say, yeah. And. I think that that sort of your default that you feel like you should be the decision maker. In some in some instances. Yes. And I think it should be a democracy. Wait now. No, no redact. I don't think that's true. I think that I get. I get frustrated when you disagree with me. I don't think it has less with has nothing to do with control. It's like in some cases, I'm I know, I'm right? And I know you're wrong. And those are the those are the time we butt heads..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:14 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"Sundance next week is confirmed. So next Saturday, I have to be they're going for will. Let's say I wanna drive what. Yeah. Why see that's just selfish shit? Like, you got a family here. We're not going with you. You can't just be like, oh, well, this is something. I wanna do. I'm going to take an extra three days away from my family, and my wife, and my responsibility is because I want to drive to Sundance. That's bullshit. Why do you wanna do that? Because I don't I wanna leave the car in California. And I don't want to have to pay to park it in New York City anymore. So there's companies the you put on the back of a truck, and they take it where you're going because five hundred dollars to do that I'll pay the five hundred dollars in. Yeah. See I wanna do a lot of stuff to all support. You. I notice that you're moving on from. Sundance. Well, because I know you'll do the right thing. Great thirty made the booking know, what's the right thing and your brain. You don't do it. You don't go for five days away from your family? They do for days. No five days. No. Talk about this. After the podcast. We're gonna talk about with Dr p next week. This is fucking bullshit thing is I might have already left before next. Actual therapy appointment, so I feel like this is our shot to really suss this out. And I've been thinking about my position. And I think that I I really think that I don't think what are you so stress out for your hand over your face. You're crying. No. I'm literally sitting here thinking what can I do that? You can't say no to right now. Because something to let you go. What can I do? What are we what are we examine this Candice? Why does it bother you? Because I think it just bothers you because you're jealous control. I don't think it's a lack of it's that. I think that you're upset because you don't feel like you could do something like this. But I can do something like this. Yeah. I I think that, but that's because I'm a better person than you. 'cause I would never ask to do something like that because I'm considerate. Like, I'm going on a reunion trip with my girls from college. And instead of taking off Thursday Tuesday. I'm only gonna leave you on Friday because that's the nice thing to do. Yes. I'd rather if you took five days away from our life, it was so that you and I could go away together for five days any time. But not in addition to. See I think what's going on here is that you harbor all this guilt. And then you project that guilt onto me, for example. I have encouraged you to go away with your girlfriends for like the last three years of offer like book a trip and do something special like the Miami and saying hotel because girls don't girls don't up and leave their family like that like for me to organize with three or four of my girlfriends that have kids it wouldn't happen. But because women don't do that those fuck off for the girls who were doing kids. I'm not talking about them. What are we talking about me just upping and going away with girls? And plus I wanna go on seige those girls, and you said, no, I encourage you to of. I've always encouraged you to go away. See I think you going away and doing something for yourself would be really healthy. There's this like math equation. It's like what's best for me. Is what's best for you? And me, and I think you taking some time to yourself would be great for you. But I think it would better me because it would be it's good for both of us. Let me and sense. So I encourage that. And I don't think it's any burden. I'm more than happy to take the girls by myself I to Christmas by myself. Oh, so happy. But then, but then there then it does become a control thing because you taking the girls by yourself means all of a sudden Franny is eating candy at two in the morning and not brushing her teeth about I brought about from.

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

02:45 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"Till eight pm. Right. Seven forty five. I'm like you can go. It's funny because it's true. But last night was date night. And my idea was to go for a walk. But that was a little too crazy for canvas. On a walk walked out of the street out of our door into the mall back from the ball. Kansas idea. This is not a joke. It's not even funny Kansas idea for what we should do in our date is sit in the count in the lobby of our apartment with our with our home upstairs. You wanted to sit there. There's a doorman building. Like, it's very public kid even talk down there. A in hear what you're saying. That was the best we could come up with remember this kids. This is this is your fate. This is what's coming. This is what you can expect marry your sweetheart maybe someday, if you're real lucky the to you can walk around the neighborhood once and then sit in the couch of your apartment building and that is date night. I know I was talking to Christina, my friend down the street. Who has three kids? Her third kid was born the same day Franny and her oldest kid is the same age as frantic. I asked her as like, do you? You know? With your husband. What is out? Is that a euphemism? It might be she's like it's really hard to figure out like, we're so tired all the time kids all over the house. She's like that's what we have to go away on holiday. So I think that you and I should go away somewhere. I will say a little credit to Kim as pool that on our in our thanksgiving in our Christmas in our holiday trip to South Africa. Kennedy said the foresight to pick one night where she booked a place a hotel in the like the countryside, and we and her sister and her sister's husband, the four of us with no kids had one night away at a wind farm. It was called Babylon store on an anybody goes to South Africa to Cape Town and wants to stay on a wind farm for night. Holy cannoli was that place gorgeous. So the foresight to book the in the four of us tonight away without the kids, and we drove we drink wine. We drink a lot of wine. We did a lot of exploring in our gumboots and boots. Big rubber boots, and they gave him to you at that place as part of your hotel room gumboots that I was dealing with them on. No Scotty out him on. But I was the only person they look good on. And I have something that to talk to you about what?.

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

05:22 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"That's why we're married. The yin in the Yang. I think I might have converted from info extrovert introvert. I'm much more conscious of the fact that I don't like being around people should try to get lunch to the grocery store years is a different thing. Mine's like super crazy, the strangers and the people coming up to you and just at home to some qualified that I never mind somebody comes up and asks for selfie or says, hi, like that's like such a flattering kind thing to get to experience what a privilege, it's when you're at these sort of social settings that is a stencil about commod ary in kinship and being around friends and being around people who are interested in you. And I think since like the U2. kind of fame thing when I'm in those environments, I don't feel like people are being genuine to me. People treat me different Lee Lee and that different that difference differ. And that difference I interpret as disingenuous. Well, it's really funny because you know, how we went to that conference every year that I absolutely love, but I'm not gonna need it. And I was devastated that we weren't going this last year. But I completely understand why didn't wanna go because all these people are there to network, but it's almost like they weren't trying to network with you. They just wanted to selfie for their kids. And that was so gross. It's. It's difficult because it's like why do people want to be near me start thinking his very weird kinda thoughts that don't make a lot of sense. And the other thing that's hard about is. Nobody from really empathize with that. You know? Well, that's what gets me so mad when when my mother is like, no. But that's what he signed up for like, not really. Actually thinking about this morning on the car tour. Year in it's not in your mother's, totally empathetic person. But that's just something she could never identify with. So to her. I think she it's it's it's you can't expect her to understand what that's like for me. You know? I had a death in the family. I haven't talked about that. It's not really your family, though, is my family. No, it's not he's not my family. But they have course keys, you know, relationship with him. I'm not trying to to minimize views seriousness. This is like literally we would have lunch with your mom, and he would sit in the car stepfather, right? She's still my mom is still your mom. My mother's husband passed away this weekend. It's still SOX. Help me understand that. Well. I mean one easy human beings. That's always charging because it's like. I can only see it as how it impacts my mother, and my mom, you know, similar seventy years old, and that was her partner, and I think it's hard to find new partner in life at that age. And she doesn't find a new partner that sad. You don't think you really rolling? It's very touchy subject. I think it said. Whole thing said disown. Couples therapy therapy me I'm not your therapist, who's the therapist here. Microphone. So the reason why I had the naked picture of you in today's video is because I you know, my dad had to get all the stuff out of his attic. Yeah. So I went to Connecticut picked up three milk cartons milk crates of his of my old pictures, and I still can't find her. I'm still missing like whole bunch. I don't know where they are. But in those milk crates where some really gnarly photos in my dad was like helping me rifle through them. So I was like anything it's not a photo throw it away. It was like a bunch of random paper stuff in there and the poor old, man. Now, he didn't see did like all naked. There wasn't like there wasn't any X. Rated R rated. There wasn't anything like. There was nothing. There are a lot of Jonah. No kids crowd. You know, how uncomfortable that word makes me that's why I said. Budge? I but my dad was like any like Henry as Dacca photos in the top. Tough one. Just like a stack if you running around the house naked. Oh, God poor guy. Not who I'd want to see me pictures of me naked who would you to see pictures? I don't think my mom would care. I don't think Owen would care. It's you know, that I found naked picture of your mom once in the house in South Africa. How old was she twenty. Oh, no naked topless..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

01:42 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"So there's a whole monologue at the beginning of that where he's saying the only way that you'll get your girlfriend back is if you stop thinking about her because they know if you care, and if you care, then they're not going to think about you. So you just have to stop carrying the minute. You stop carrying you become more peeling them. And I think there's a parallel between that and what you're describing. Yeah. If you come across as desperate who wants about someone. I want somebody to to. I don't wanna show up that party and people be like Candice is here. What's she doing here? I would they think that I don't know. This is what goes on in my mind. I think this is why I ended up being. Like a introvert. I thought it was an extrovert when I was younger. I thought I was like let's go wherever and I'm not I just wanna stay at home with people trust. Through my head show, but the parties what Racine hawk Hogan's WWF entrance in the nineteen sixties. Yes. Where it's like the lights turn off send his music starts playing. It's like, I am a real man Ricken that was his entrance music and fireworks goes off. And he comes in. Bear bear 'bout barren out there, and he'd tears off his shirt, and everybody's screaming his name when I go to like a black tie event. That's what I feel like everyone's thinking. I walked to the door. The horse race in South Africa. That's what I felt like in the room with all those all the Cartier executives, and I would have been like to even know that my grandfather was part of this club. How do I let them know that I definitely belong here. And I was just ending on the table flexing..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:05 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"I thought it was like maybe twenty five thirty people who are on the board of the Hudson river park, like they they raise money for the playgrounds and stuff. Great. 'cause I was supposed to be a guest at someone's table that had bought a table. And I was like, okay. Yeah. Sure. I'll go. And then I got online started searching for like old pictures, like what am I supposed to wear to this like jeans skirt, and it's women decked out from head to toe with their like fifty thousand dollar handbags, and I was just like panicking. I was really bothered by the I called and cancelled that night because then I spoke to my friend, Christina. Who's like, oh, yeah. I'm like. No. 'cause I was a guest of somebody at their table is the food free. Yes. But the point is it's like six hundred woman lunch of like fancy fancy women. Right. And I do not belong in that group. The point is why was I so scared to go to something like this. Why did I feel like I didn't belong is it just the clothes because I could go just by outfit. But like, I was all I thought about from the minute. I said, yes until I canceled those people don't like you. They probably don't like me. Because because my roots are showing I still have gray that need to cover up because I don't have a manicure because I don't I don't know. Anyway, I was talking to her about why that made me so nervous in what was the inclusion Candice. It was a combination of things it was a combination of me being okay with not actually wanting to be part of that world. And then me being scared of being part of that world that I won't be accepted. But she's like, that's okay. Doesn't mean. There's anything wrong with you. You're so fun near the opposite. You can go anywhere and act like you belong not. It's. What's the opposite of inferiority complex superior airy superiority? You just think you're better than everyone in every situation. Not true. I only think I'm I only feel emboldened when I'm around people that are more. Fancy than I am like when we were younger, and we used to go to those like events at the Whitney or whatever and those parties where you get fought photographed. I was always always felt like I didn't belong. I'd have to like do drugs before it went just like a talk. Yeah. It's true. Men. I just learn to stay away those parties she's referring to so like my social life in in. My twenties is like pre social media. There's always a party in New York City, at least there was I was younger. So all you have to do is know what the party is. And then to know how to get in. And then once you're in all the booze is free, and the food is free, and this socializing, it's like, it's like a way to hack New York City, social, but then you're a hack. Yeah. I mean, if if there's one word that would be engraved on my tombstone, it'd be case his. See, and I'm the opposite. And like if I don't really really absolutely belong there. Then I don't wanna be there. But who really belongs anywhere? I don't know. Do you think those fancy people think they belong there? Just looking around me like shit her dresses nicer than mine. Like damn I wish I had those Finci's. Hearings. Nobody belongs in those environment. It's just how you it's how you what you bring to. Okay. Let me put it in a different perspective. So you know, when you have like, a brand you wanna be an magazines. We will learn about you. That's kind of how it is. Or you want to be spoken about or whatever. I was never okay with like pitching myself to people and like hoping they'd write about me. Do they like me like my stuff, and then I stopped caring. I felt much better about what I was doing. Last time. You saw the movie swingers is this like a detour. No, this is keeping the train right on the tracks. Yeah. I saw it maybe ten years ago..

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"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

04:29 min | 3 years ago

"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey

"K I have a question for you about the trip to South Africa. Yes, I mean ask you this. Were you deliberately on your best behavior? No, do I ever do that. Yes. When someone's you were hard to be nice. There's a difference between working hard at it comes from like a deep deep place versus like. Lottie da. I'm gonna pretend nothing bothers me. I was being very natural. I was very happy. So in forgetting Capetown, that's where Kim this was born there's Kansas family's house house grandfather built eight years ago, or whatever. And we all go down there when I say, we all like her family and the kids in a family reunion almost every year every other year around the holidays, and I think in the last whatever twelve years of going there. It's always sort of panned out the same way, which is half with the trip. You start to get frustrated. Usually, maybe even there's a fight family argument in there that I'm not involved with. And then I'm starting to leave the house more and have fun with my South African friends, and you'll surfing, then you start to get angry at me for doing my own thing. And then it sort of boils over and the trip ends with you being we shouldn't have come here for so long. And you're not spending time with me don't even know why we blah, blah, blah, and the sort of pout remember? The waiting a few things one getting the extra car. Buying that Jeep last year made a huge difference because there were like twelve people in the house at all times and one person at the car, and you'd always fuck off at eight o'clock and not come back ten because you had to go work out this year. It wasn't so bad because you know, your own car was there, and it was a full house. So it was better. But like you didn't even get mad at me those days. I said I'm going to get lunch with Dan. And then I came back nine hours later because you know, why? No, you know, why? Because you didn't make me feel bad about not wanting to go normally every year, you're like so tough on me about not going out every night, not doing adventures. I mean going to Cape Town since I was one I've done it. All I'm not interested. I'm also like not twenty years old when I was twenty I used to abseil off the mountain and go sand boarding with snowboards and hike through the forests and like used to do all that stuff. I just don't do it anymore. We twenty video. Today. No, I show a picture of, you know, close on it when you're twenty what picture do you have a muse close on? Can I thought we got rid of us? Didn't we get rid of that where where was the picture taken? Don't remember. But you're holding your dog. Anyway, we didn't fight this trip in South Africa. It was kind of great. Oh, you were also entertained Scotty. Was there yet? And I also think that. Kansas thing where she it's jet, and like so this year, whatever like twelve days, it takes her eleven full days to get over the jet lag says like anybody's ever jet like you have to fight it and don't go to sleep present asleep. All the next day. That's what I do. I'm fine twenty four hours later kennison braces it so she goes to bed at four in the afternoon. She wakes up at eleven at night. She's from eleven at night until six in the morning, then she sleeps from six in the morning till four in the afternoon. And does that for the entire trip, and that's pretty annoying when like your only friend is Candice. But this year, I had my brother-in-law, and I had Dan and I had my boxing trainer. I went to the horse track. Ceo's a good trip because he just kind of left me alone. I known instant you did. Well, I was there this morning. You know? As very disappointed in myself for not making it. It's fine. No, no. I wanted to go for me. Not for you. Cool. It was good. I don't remember what we talked about. Oh, I know what we talked about spirit. It's not juicy at all. But I got invited to be guest at a luncheon on Friday that mean, okay. A luncheon ladies who lunch like xactly what I'm not like four women going to arrest people organize. What I didn't know..

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