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The Wayno Interview
"No Jumper coolest podcasts on the world today. I'm with the one only way no I feel a man I feel. I'm honored to be here. I'm excited. I was looking up. Ueno interview today. NFL like there's still a lot of room for us to produce like the the ultimate breakdown who I know is as Christopher the people out there is a lot of people who watch all the time and they don't really know anything about it background background. I'm a little limited in my knowledge or background so things will be very valuable. Not Absolutely there's a Lotta people that only know me for certain things so they might know me. It is but then no I did that. They know me it. It is but didn't know I was attached to that. supposedly was dive right into this to start things off. You hang out with academics four days a week at four o'clock in the morning. Well now you get up. I get like five. Will I get up at five forty five in a car to my crib at five forty five so that's my long black. I get up at like six six twenty six fifteen most by six thirty is that the most rich you feel in an average week is when that car picks you up the life they I feel after my kids and my kids make me you know what I mean forever but I'm trying to get rich for going to try and get on my shit. Was it hard to get into tha that mindset of getting up super early to do that job though now not really because I always had like I always like I grew up my mom's was a job developer so like I learnt to get up in. Even though I didn't finish school in Shit like I learned getting up responsibility. I had many jobs I've done a lot of Shit and let me gotten up for good reasons in batteries and so aalto problem getting up in the morning so as long as we're staying on this topic though let's just talk about like you getting the everyday struggle. Gig what it was like because you know it's just weird to think there was that period of turmoil. There was a lot of guests hosts. You were doing it for a while before you official for low second star had his period. When did you even start having the conversation but becoming the coast well let me say it is Adam like I never in my life ever imagined being on camera for nothing. I like the way I came up. I wanted it'd be a behind. The scenes guy and I wasn't behind the scenes. I was being successful as behind. The scenes guy was interesting because nobody ever wants to be the behind scenes guy. Everybody wanted to be in a rapper. As soon as I hear kids say say they WANNA be the behind the scenes guy very optimistic about their career well. I wanted to be a rapper when I was a kid. I grew up around a lot of a lot of my home is our global was wrappers in like once once. They started having success. I didn't want that and then like when I was a teenager. I was like I was at Rockefeller like my late teenage early twenties years so that was my time to you kind of try to jump on camera being people videos and Shit in and I didn't get then make anything out of his so I was like you know what maybe I just need to fall back. You know focus on getting one thing right engines do that but like how I got on. I don't know like I mean I do know. It's funny because everybody was telling me you'll after Joe. I want to watch the show them while I was like me who I mean like honestly like Joe men in like when he left the show I just like the fuck is going to happen. That's big shoes to fill because he's like arguably one of the best dudes talking about rap in the game actually i. I definitely give him that but like I didn't. I see because it wasn't something I was trying to do. I didn't look at it and shoes to fill like I literally I got it like in the desk. We got a really good relationship ship because like when I was managing like certain artists and shit shoes of she interview with them so you know one always had the same issue Adams good how you you don't she like I'm good. She's like you should come through the debate. I'm like all right cool go through do the first day of the show and they were like yeah. That's the most fun we had an alone time and I was like I'll know that's supposed to be home and then she hit me in shops the producer he hit me. They both hit me like. Yo- would you come back and I'm like come back for what and then they lay your. We want you to come back and I'm like I we did the guest hosting in and I think Joe was Joe was was was having conversations with them about potentially coming back and it was around the time when he's figuring out his revolt shit and this was already on the show when this happened. I WanNa read the show which was star and then they told me like Oh. You know a chance that Joe Mike Comeback if he doesn't know we explore some things I'm like cool is Essa Larry for me because I never the one to do this. In Life and you know the first pull up ever that Joe did joe asked me to come in his crib and I did that. We had a conversation and he was like Yo. I ain't GonNa lie like like I like seeing you. One and I think you're doing good. I think you should go with it. I'm GonNa go do this revolt thing. I'm like Shit like to get the blessing from that's my dog so like to get that from him is just. Kinda lifted a weight off my shoulders like I didn't have no shoes to fill. That's actually really cool to hear because I always wasn't really sure what note that was left on because I think in the past I heard joe say that he hadn't seen episode everyday struggles he left and I was wondering if that was some sort of low key shade as in that. He didn't even care enough to check out you mean he was like what's funny was when I first got this. He said I can't show COPS V. 'cause you doug you on there so we got. We've had a good report like when I was working rockefellers when Joe is at Jim so I've known him for years and then like through twitter as we really got more cool and then like we just started being around him a little bit more I mean. He was like he said he was. You'll you doing good on that Shit like and I think you should stick with it so it was kind of don't get that from and it's just so interesting stressing because everybody is out here just having conversations about rab like everybody you know there's public fucking one hundred dues that in your life you said down ended up talking about rat for an hour then just the idea of doing it on camera with that just like Kinda weird to you to even be considered somebody that was good enough at talking about rab that they wanted you to do it or camera and get paid for it. You'll I swear at him like I ain't GonNa Front so that should kind of came right on time for me. 'cause it was like. I was transitioning out of Managing Day. Please let me and I was transitioning out of that and like I was good but like I needed to figure out what my next thing was going to be an like right around when that came right on time I didn't even it came so fast and me. I couldn't even think of that Shit. I just like I will. I don't really know I'm GONNA barbershop talking with my Nigga for years. We talked shit about rap. Music is to get on instagram live and do this thing called free throws wise like talk with everybody and just talk about how they could get on a game and get into the game and I used to talk about music on there too and it kind of like just instagram live. She kind of built a little platform for me for the people that follow me so. I didn't have a problem like just speaking. I don't have a problem speaking but like to do it on a level where now when I walk outside. focuses stopped me like okay. I'll take a picture. I never imagined it so I kinda got thrown in the middle of the ocean swim to shore so you're telling me that you think I'm that much better at talking about rap at the barber shop and all these other guys on the shot overwhelming idea I but I didn't need it because that's just what I do like you know what I mean like we from hall. I'm from the Bronx and I'm from Harlem. I mean we we argue. We argue about fucking rat. We argue about sports on shirts. No you're not a cut. The shirt look stupid. Colored Shirt your sneakers jagged. GET WHATEVER WE I've been doing that shift high school so it's like second nature to just debate. My mom used to tell me when I was a kid like Oh. You should join the team because once I became a teenager I started questioning everyday every day so me and my mom used to have back for like you should join a fucking debate team. You WanNa talk so much sign to that would be arguing. My mom always goes wide. You always want to argue view of me about religion at six in the morning and you know that's a really good time when your question and everything you want to have conversations like did you consider yourself a smart kid like your whole whole childhood or something you kind of blossomed into it a certain fuck no dog so I I didn't I thought I was you know what it was. I released that think I was stupid because I thought I was stupid because like I was in as good as everybody else academically so I thought that I really believe for a long time like if you excel academically Damaclean than your smart I really believe that because I had self esteem issues when I was younger running only because like certain shit that teacher said to me like I always joke about it but I feel like I should have. I've been a special ed re only only because like especially when it was a more condense class. I couldn't focus in a room with thirty five kids. I wanted to play daydream. Shit but everything you're saying that sounds pretty conducive to you eventually going on getting a job doing something creative that weren't necessarily comfortable being constrained and in this box felt the same exact. Were you know bullshit. I used to draw when I was a kid so like constantly. y'All I wake up. I would take all my comic books wake of nine o'clock in the morning on Saturdays seven eight nine nine ten years old and I dro- I'm talking about from nine in the morning till ten at night just draw and they wanted to put me in like schools to draw shit but then my mom's telling me I'M GONNA go to school for drawing. I was like I want to do it because I didn't want it. I was doing it for my leisure. I didn't WANNA do it to make nobody else like happy like I wanted to draw fucking x-men day vitamin vitamin once they start telling me draw shitting geometric shapes and yeah I only draw drawing comic book characters but then I got a book that that show you how to like draw all the shapes before you actually start on and it was so offensive to me to think that I had to learn the technical thing. That's why I'm not that's why I don't work for the MCI like if I did that Shit. Maybe I could have went on to do something like never lie so I I had. I didn't think I was smart but you know it was showing me while smart was when I was like a teenager and I started trying to get into the streets and like I would be around like forty forty niggers in like I'm smarter than all of them and I'm not the leader so he used to like. I'm I'm around all these people that is telling me to do stupid shit and we're doing stupid shit together and I'm smarter than them but I'm not even a person leading eating them so that's what kind of like the streets like being in the streets in like joint gangs and Shit when I was younger and that took me structured ironically like not supposed learn structure but he told me a lot about order in like protocol in how to deal with she was your idea the streets though destroyed up there. You'RE GONNA be selling small amounts. The drugs on the street or was it more about just having much homeys around the house. I went gangs in the streets because I was pussy. Keep it on like as a man. I could say that like now. I like. I'm not but when I was younger I moved like when I moved to Harlem how to grow up in a place in the bronx where it wasn't like. It wasn't really bad like it bad should happen but it wasn't really bad and then like I was a kid so when I moved to Harlem gangster really heavy in drugs is really heavy and I gotta go like now I could open up the door and go outside so I gotta figure out like Homs survive in this so my my thing was like I got attached myself to certain things to certain people in order for me to make it make it home because that's what was happening and people who is getting hurt so I kinda joined in the shit that I wanted to just to kind of get by but like the crazy thing about that is when I started hanging around all these dudes they liked me for me. They didn't like me because I was a part of it. There was a part of me that kind of helped me in a sense to when I was transitioning out related issue okay. I got the personality just sorta shine through. I couldn't stand them all to like. I didn't really have a lot of stability like for five years. Is I lived in five different places in what the five different schools so. Your family was moving around year but not for bad reasons like I grew up in the Bronx. I was like the descent when I was born on. I lived in the same building from where I was born too. I was like graduated from Fifth Grade Fifth Grade. My mom like got a better job. We moved like a mile down like two other side. Outta town then sixth grade. She well Fifth Grade Sixth Grade. Hummel's is the father like we're GONNA move to Maryland Maryland for you. Seventh grade through sound. I'm grateful to Maryland. They break up. We gotTA move back to New York. Comeback Eighth Grade Greg and we went through the shelter system going to shelter system. NATIA was tough in graduating from eighth grade going to ninth grade. We out the shelter system now. It's time for us to move somewhere else so just a whole lot of instability so you didn't really feel too secure safe in your surrounding now not really because I don't I got out of kids like my dad got eight kids. I'm number six out of eight and I don't really know like my oldest siblings shit like I just I just got cool. One of my older siblings Lund's this year that I only met at one time. I mean so I didn't really I didn't have nobody against a fight. I couldn't call no big brother couldn't call no so I mean you say Percy like so you're pussy but at the same time I mean in that environment in New York especially when you haven't been around all these dudes one hundred percent of the grown up there and everything it's very understandable. There's a lot to be scared Korea. Let me not say put I just I want. I want to say pussy cause. I don't WanNa kid to see this. Thank you just like you just like you. You I just wasn't confrontation now. My thing was I would fight but I was in the instigator like I just wanted to have fun and draw draw fucking cartoons and play video games and ride bikes. I I didn't want to get into no no problems but the thing was it was like I will also win run from a problem but and I was just was like you know what if I'm thinking like this also Oh. I'm going to shoot my mom becoming a teenager. I think I'm a man I think I know everything because my Dick Gephardt like you know what I mean like. Shit is like you start getting a you. Start getting a little bit pussy as a teenager now you don't match the world so like. I was just a little bit confusing. I was like I'm a man like and I did want to sell drugs because like a lot of my friends is like when I moved to that neighbor I grew up on the east side hall and when I moved over a thirteen year old they also crack they all by Jordan's. They really really liked that. I know this from Harlem like my Era Hong so like my I moved to Harlem in ninety six but I was going in a lot when I was a kid as my grandfather lived there but my era Harlem Eva go to school you play basketball or you sell drugs. That's it. There is no nothing else like everybody you get. You get money or you playing ball. If you don't succeed in bowl then you end up selling drugs if you don't end up like nobody I was around went to college college. I'm I'm like the most accessible person in my family. I'm a high school dropout. Yeah I mean like crazy but that's what I was around so like I'm around the kid I and think about this. I come home from school and got money my man twin right. I mean it's when he was like a it was like three sets of black but this one says twenty he's sunk. PRAC- I'm like oh I'm hungry. He likes to Hungary on my go to Burger King My. I ain't got no money like don't worry about it. We go to Burger King some chick. Come bring us bunch of big as bag of fucking Burger King. Give it to us. I'm like how you get that. He like. I'd be selling her crow's life. That's crazy. You know what I mean. Then you ain't no friend I seen I seen a do on my block away do block and sell Alexis for sixty dollars. I got I kid you not because he was so strung out. He's Seoul Alexis a es three hundred for sixty dollars to a bunch of fifteen-year-olds what they're just because he knew the drugs. I bet yeah so my man. We look in the car he liked. He liked cars. Does he likes my wife. Call we look at at junior mafia. CD Hyphen Listening Oh fuck mafia my mans like fuck fuck it. They bought the car they joy road around in issue for they crashes Levy Water for me but that's that's how growing up in Harlem was and I grew up on a block with that blush. It hit heavy so it was like you got to figure out what you do. When you come out what year did was it was in dips. It can't cam wasn't even out Irap at that time ninety six months to ninety one to ninety nine two thousand nine hundred ninety eight from you on the East Coast. Cameron happened in two thousand two. Hey Ma what's it's. We didn't really know about before that if I'd been paying a little more attention to me I mean Kim dropped his first album ninety eight. I just wasn't but yes so like now isn't making it cool like the gang shit in New York started in prison so like is dues. Come from out of prison into the the streets and implement in that mentality on a young and so like it's really roofless like where I grew up at it was crazy. I didn't even know what fucking I didn't even know a trauma until like four four years ago. I'm thirty six years old so mash. It is seen as a kid I can only now identifies trauma yeah. I didn't even know because it's like stuff. That bothered me. Every day I think about shit and and it'd be like like I can just be having a good day and I might I walk past. I go somewhere and I walked past it. It triggers me some that I've seen when I was a kid and just be like damn. That's kind of like I. I see it but I didn't know that like I should have talked about a talk to a person about the things I've seen when I was a kid. You just go on with it like you know. It's like not a thing when I think about Manhattan the most cops of anywhere I've ever been in my life visit crazy being low level criminal in Harlem trying to get your fucking rocks off every day and you get this much level of surveillance especially. I mean this is years ago. But still I mean I ain't GonNa lie on my block like I seen a lot of people like get crazy money on black but they also crazy indictments. It's like it goes hand in hand. It's like like selling drugs is like getting fouled playing basketball. You know what's going to happen. You just don't know to the degree that level and you don't know the repercussions of it you might get found and get knocked the fuck out on catch a concussion or you might get fouled and be able to choose free throws and still play. That's how that shit is like. I seen a lot a lot of my friends like they was going to do in high school like they're going to jail for selling crack going to do a month inspired for coming home in all gone like eventually end up going to write this come home. You know what I mean like so it was it was like a revolving door. The place that I grew up in Harlem is nicknamed named Convict Ali because in all of New York like a certain parameter of proximity is the most repeat offenders in New York's grew up in a place where you more likely to go to jail. Oh come home is six months or come home and go back to jail for whatever you did something worse in six months and I had to figure out how GonNa live like you know what I mean like. How am I gonNA to get past this right now so so when you start to think that this wasn't for you and how long did it take before you started fucking music shit was that the first legit stuff started to do no I was. I was always like I was. I was working like low regular jobs even with me like I I wasn't I would never sit here and proclaim that I was like. I was on my block moving this and moving that the most I did on my block was look out. I looked out for people a couple of times. Get a couple of hours doing that. You know what I mean and then I started selling like low Weeden Louisville Davalos Shit like that and later on tried to fuck with other stuff but that was kind of rebellion like I I really got into histories to as a rebellion my dad because my dad is like one of the most respect industry dues in the Bronx but he kept he never like he told me not to do some but why not like he never told me. Don't do it because it is. He just said don't do it because I'm your father and I didn't live with him right so I was like. I'm not listening to you while so perspective on street. Shit because you knew the dad was kind of famous for the idea at the time like my dad. I didn't know my dad. My Dad was a number runner so my dad used run numbers and shit but then I found out that my dad was known for all types of Shit but like when I'm finding this out he's still trying to hide from me. I'm thirteen years old that you you. You can't hide ship kids smarter than the parents thinking. I'm a parent like his smarter smarter than you think and he was trying to hide certain shift from me and I was like fuck. I'M GONNA listen to you and you're doing everything you tell me not to do. You know what I mean so it was kind of a rebellion and my dad got kids. You have to give them the full argument. You GotTa really try to explain to them because then someday somebody's going to try to get them to go the other either way you want to give them the full tool chest if possible for them to understand why they should make the right decision but I understand why don't like now that I'm a man understand why my dad didn't because like I view. My Dad is like like even though we didn't. I didn't live with him. He was like the most he meant. The moat demand meant the most to me in my life so I didn't he didn't want to tell me Shit because I guess he didn't want me to a certain way. You know what I mean so I respect it now but it's just confusing when you're a teenager and you're trying to figure out I saw every year. I only had like one friend. I only have one best friend. I didn't have a crew of friends I was around until I started fucking around with gang shit so it was like I didn't. I'd had no stability so I'm looking for you to like Yo. You know what I mean and I'm not getting that so I did it as a rebellion but I started the transition doing other stuff when I got a like seventeen eighteen but my mom like she helped me get some jobs and shit so I did some jobs and stuff like that and so who who in the music side of things so it was the first opportunity you got to the first thing you shit. I mean working in the mailroom at the rock will not at the right. I I worked in the mailroom at Rockefeller was so I worked in the mirror. I didn't even Rockefeller was eating my Florida delivered to so you had nothing to do Rockefeller. I was just working in the mailroom coincidentally. So Oh year like ISO look. You've seen the movie backstage before can't remember so backstage is is is Jay Z. Gone on a hard lifestyle he takes. BMX and God Redman and method man do big ass tour for these crazy dates and all that shit and that movie came out in two thousand. I was seventeen at the time I seen that movie and when I seen that movie I said I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm getting shit and I had dropped out of high school and my mom was like listen. I don't mind if you like if you're not going to go to school right now. Oh cool but you gotta do something. I'm not going to be coming home cooking cleaning and you just sit on the ass all day so I got a job interview. I ended up getting a job the two places I I was supposed to give the I had to pick from what it was like three places. It was eight twenty five eight avenue. I ended up going some place in fucking World Trade Center and this is two thousand holy shit so I'm seventeen so I get beer absolutely absolutely because I absolutely could've went. It was people that we all took the test. They was oh you're going it World Trade Center. You know what I'm saying so I I get the job my first day. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just deliver mail need. They take me up on a Florida showing me. The ropes and I come around floor and I see like the whole corner floor is read. This is red and all these posts and it says murdering and I'm like I'm like I'm like why I'm a kid. I'm seventy my water. Fog is always murder INC stuff in here this a building unlike so they like we we do that and then we go to another floor and then I'll go to the twenty seventh floor in murdering was on twentieth floor in in August twenty seventh floor and his DEF JAM and I'm like and I'm like what is all of this stuff here. I just love Jam logo. I'm like what is this. I still don't know where I'm at and then the guy's like Oh this is we'll all record tables. I'm like what the fuck like. Serious is so that was like working in the mailroom the wagon I I start with starsailor. MEMPHIS BELIEFS CHECKS REX. I wish bleak was getting back but not only early Macintosh. She worked for Jay. Z's fan club called Fan Fan and her and Dr. R&R worked at Rockefeller only Ranji fan club fan fame and like they were shipped by you know there's no internet at this time so this is like kids is writing in lettuce and I love Jay Z. Semi U. T. Shirt is some shit and I'm helping them pack t shirts after work because I was a kid I was the youngest person everybody else is like an eight twenty the youngest person in there so they would let me help out the work and getting fired from the mailroom of year later before it was a box that was supposed to go to the gym that he left on the floor for me and the freight area and Dan. I forgot that it was. Did you know whatever's left. The free area gets thrown out and it was contracts in sheet so all that she got thrown out in like the hammer came down. They like what was involved. You gotTA fight. It was his fault. You know what I mean. He got fired and I got fired but when I got fired I on I worked in sneaker store around my block of for like a couple of months and then I hit my mom mahomed girl who now Sherry Bryant the president in Iraq nation. She was an assistant to an assistant at Rockefeller and I just asked that like we rent as I'm like. Can I help you come in to help every day. I am not internship was I just cannot help. She come through so that was my start. Wow Oh that's crazy start. Doing a lot of people wouldn't want to just go. How about free but you saw the benefit. I don't know what the I didn't ask could've got around this time on this one. I'm like nineteen. Now like this is like one of my friends I've had in my life. He got murdered. You know what I mean so he got killed in an like like just a lot of friends I had was going to jail and and I was like I want to do something because I knew that if I didn't find something something to do then I was gonna be back into what I was trying to get away from the streets so I just wanted to do something I wanted to do anything. I didn't give a fuck like my first three three months of being a Rockefeller used to give people food. I didn't do anything like and again. A sustained opposition like six months in them really prove yourself. I got how cool with Chris from young guns so we all the same age so you know the young guys at a time we like. Dan was we seventeen. I think I might have been eighteen at this time now eighteen at the time not when he died but like eighteen so I just was like one day I found beanie Sigel's mother's name on a piece of paper and I just I like the younger and I like all the Philly artists so much and I felt like it was in doing enough and so I called I just I could got fucking expelled from everything during this but I picked up the phone and I called any single moms as a hey michelle. My name is Wayne. Oh you know I'm interning at Rockefeller and I just wanted to call you because I like all the guys in Philly and not like I feel like they could be doing more and I want to know if I can help and she was like I feel like they could be doing more to every every every wherever I feel like they doing what to so I just took a shot and call the and we sat on the phone for maybe twenty minutes and she said I want you to go to the studio and you tell them that I essence you did and I'm like I I went to studio and then like Algebra sitting around in like your mom's told me to pull up and I got in trouble for that. Shit too good year because I'm going to the studio and like I'm just pulling up the studio and like Jason. They're fucking Kayak and they're doing beats the young guns they're playing pool beanie. Siegel Room and just blazing room and I'm just a kid sitting there with nothing to do so everybody's I would've fucked toll is kid like like I know it was used to be as I come in and like J. or big they we'd like look at me like who the fuck kit or dame late they Blau who let me and I used to do dumb shit like say shit like y'all so and they just look at me like refunded kid. They get a lot of the kids to understand that when you're in that environment you start asking some fan ask questions so weird when especially like a studio where there's rapper feels like he's just working like center the fucking universe right now and for someone to bring in that weird energy by so did you piss. Is anyone off or we'll have of course I remember one night. I went there and like like the next day I go to the office and Sherry was like do not go go to the studio again. Don't go. She just kept telling you like do not go to studio. Don't go to studio. She kept telling me that I am. I so I'm like I'm not going to go and then one day somebody somebody my is like Christmas going on Prom. As Mijo. We need you to go to a Louis Vuitton and pick up a jacket. We brought phone so when I picked up the jacket and I brought it back and then me and him just Chilin talking that day and then like I said he's all around the same age and then he was like heavy industries like crazy and I was like was kind of getting off of that trying to get offer that so I'm like fuck. I started hanging around them and then once I got in with that was it I started working on tape started working. The state property albums and in Beanie Siegel took a liking me me beanie. Sigel got really really tight. You know what I mean he I became Muslim being around them real yeah so it was like it was it was a learning experience but if I hung around being single enough. I'll probably Muslim to manage because real serious. Nagla live man. It's so funny like I remember but like I was. I think I did Charlotte as podcast. He asked me because you're like bubby. Siegel as he said well he had this I say in like his his day he did some come in. Nobody would have helped you bro yeah he was. I ain't GonNa Front. I watch men trumbull when his presence really terrifying. I mean that's how drugs the time when you're hanging out onto like you know what's crazy is like they all smoke and drink they drink Serapin Schaffler. Selena was a very early guy on east coast lean talking about it but nobody knew he is talk Emma. I didn't even know what he's talking about until I started seeing do but it was like you see now it could be a bunch of I'd like chicks in a room by pulling up they didn't do. It was like a private thing so it was like I gotta go out the room like the definition of Gosh stuff for. No girls allowed still well. Now you gotta get out the room. Somehow some girls pull up to my crib and they had lean a Mike Brown. That is the most wretched thing I supposed to do. You're a killer. Deadline is a motherfucker broiler tried fucking with that shit too in that shit like just being curious fucking around and is not nothing to play with now but yeah he's like. Lease doubted that Tom Beans was like a he's a force to be reckoned. One on every level on a music level on the street level. We confirm for me 'cause Beanie Sigel and we'll talk longways. One of the best rap isn't that far actually is it true that jj saw him on a stoop in Philly or some shit and just walked up zoom just kind of knew that he was who's GonNa be that he could be a dope rapper not well. I wasn't around at that time. I always way younger than that when eight when he got around but the story is that is his brother names d.c from Philly and he knew John. Whatever he brought beans up you know I mean he brought beans and beans rapper Jay Flake our some shit and then he was like any put him on reservoir watt dogs just like that because somebody told me that j just knew that he could be a great rapper before even harm wrap and I might seem so improbable that he then would actually would be as good as he was. I don't know I know beans like man. He's a young adult. He's the telling me that he used to write Easter wrapping his sleep and I believe I I. I live with him like when he was a house. Arrest fighting his attempted murder charge like I lived I lived with him and he really do wrapping asleep while like he he'd be sleet and he'd be saying like certain words and he walked around the House Santa and in like one day he record and he just say Shit. You heard him saying mainly easy especially with when you look at somebody like beings career. How how do you feel you about him. Not really having made it or never really got to the level that it was supposed to right like yes huge amount of respect but it was never really able to translate that into like record sales and should've we so records like that's the thing he did is he. was you know he might have been Richard in majority people around in his class that was on the record because I don't know how Rockefeller had set up you sell a certain amount and you is good and he was yet fucking to Bentley's big ass. He was living in he gold on every album he ever put out. He wasn't a platinum selling on the artist book gold. I mean now go new artists like Cheka. Whoever go go we like. Oh Shit a kiss so sixty five thousand records the first week that's big jaded kiss. This was selling fucking two hundred forty three hundred thousand the first week in people because it was an error. Nobody don't give nobody like look at it that way like a nation in streaming or project though to a quarter million actual gotta be crazy but beans. I just I'm not disappointed form I I. I wish I could have been better. You know what I mean but he did accomplish a lot. You know what I mean. He accomplished a lot but I think a lot that didn't go right with him was because he he was a knowledgeable. In certain current things like certain levels like he did know a lot of stuff but just when it came to business. I think he was a little bit late. Learning business and I didn't learn that until I got older because I thought he knew everything. When I was his low. Oh Ms Abundant. You know what I mean but once he once I got older and started learning business owners didn't know that well he didn't know that or he might have just been a little bit reckless with this but knows learn occur so you're an Iraq Rockefeller and you're mostly doing Chris and Nathan beanie or like what what are your roles at. That time are you. How are you making yourself useful well. I'm I'm doing at this time. I'm just doing whatever's asking me but like I'm I started going so the way I got really good in with the phillies. News is my main Ryan impress. Ryan is like right now. He's the fucking president of Warner Chappell publishing but at the time like he had his crib was a studio and he managed a producer by the name of chat that was and they produced all right like there was the guys in Philly so like if you was upcoming rapid in Philly you went over there to do records so I got I I liked befriended them and I became like they little Homie so I'm making sure would at some synergy between you know skiing on sparks like or orthopedic tracking all of them which Chad Western Ryan and when it's time for us to pick songs for the album I'm picking songs like Biggs and beanie seagoing. They let me pick songs for the for the young they let me pick songs for the for the state property so it's like that's what my influence but because I was the young guy like now I'm fucking. I'm about to be thirty thirty seven in December but never would have guessed. You were probably twenty seven now thirty seven. December your aging well thank you. They don't smoke cigarettes. Gross Montana Scott I was I was a young guy so like now. Keep young people around me so I'm ahead of the curve is as a starting. It's starting Shit. I'm not fucking with I mean but they let me know what it is like. My son is like Myanmar wasn't fucking with Joseph but not really liking like he likes his favorite rappers meet like his favorite rappers meek drake young thug fucking dirt bomb will he fucked with Toco. Od Heavy yeah he loves LA EE folks were he was the one like we get in the car and go on some basketball game. He won't little. Oh pumping shit and I'd be like man. I don't WanNa hear that Shit. He published five bugging off pump really listen to pump because he was like oh he like. My son like pump pump never really made a lot of music that he got into outside of the single so but he knows he no more little than I do right I mean he listened to as she the business crazy when you gotta like a young kid like I start seeing them getting excited about wrap it. It's crazy just watching it sort of play out and just and just knowing there's nothing that you could do to like shape their tastes that they're they're just blossoming into really not actually like my son. He helped meet Osama artist. TJ Puerto he sounded dubbed Jam because of my son. My son put me on his music really is so like my son was like every day like we go to his basketball play ball so let me listen to TJ Puerto. Let me listen to C. J. Put what I'm like. I and then one day I was taking him in a few of his friends to a game like five of them they in a car and they all ask him to listen to put like either. Put the song they sing an issue were for word. I'm looking at the time twelve at the time he was ten. I'm like if you got ten year old kids singing issue word for word. You got something new already. How even find out about I think they said that they like because TJ played basketball too so there was there was at a basketball game. Somebody say he plays he rat or he told somebody soundcloud so they just look them up and they start listening to his music and his sharing it amongst friends but when I met him he had a song that had like seven hundred thousand streams when soundcloud all he's doing is playing basketball and going to school right. Let me so. I'm like Shit. Come over here. I mean them for you and then he got sounded crazy my son my son. I credit So what happened with the Rockefeller. Shit like how how did did you continue to grow their. Did you just abruptly leave as I mean when Jan Dame broke up. That was here what changed their. What was your perspective on that. I was fucked up. You thought I wouldn't have never got fucking. Harlem tattooed on my hand like at the time I'm thinking I'm going to be at Rockefeller forever. I'm twenty years old. I'm going to J. Birthday parties beyond sated eight air fucking every actor hanging in this loop and I'm a young kid. I'm think initiatives never gonNA end and then one day that she just was like bone so you didn't know the J. It was totally unhappy with dame or Russian. I well I like when I look back now. I kinda did but then 'cause it was it was like it came aim to appoint when all the Cameron Shit was happening and like J. stopped coming to the office and Jason always coming in office he would come to office and he will go to twenty eight but he won't come up to twenty. We now where Rockefeller was at so but I never thought of it. I'm just thinking. OJ's busy but then I will go. I will go to the studio with Chris and Nathan C. J. We'd be around Jay but then I'll go somewhere. Elsa we around Dane around dame lot but dame never spoke badly about Jay. When we were randomly. He never said nothing about what was going on and that was an epicenter of that she they never like we didn't know just happened foam one day just and it was like go at your mother your father. I really was like who go with. I didn't know what to do. I went and got a regular job again. Really Tis disillusioned by didn't try to saddle up with either camp. Now because you know is another thing too. I didn't know I didn't like really know how to build relationships so like Rockefeller. We didn't really use the fucking everything. We did a young kid that works for overall right now. I'm pretty sure like relations but they thinking that that's never gonna end like you never think cash money's GonNa end in it at the peak of the levellers on your first time being associated with something because say it's like the third label that you've been associated with then then you start to realize like Oh. This should all going to change. They ushered me and I didn't know nothing else like I didn't. I was like that's why started. That's what I was at this time. I started there eighteen at this time twenty two twenty twenty one twenty two so it's like with the fuck else. I'M GONNA do. I don't know what to do. I'm just is like let me go get a regular job. I mean that was like that. She was so where did you go to work. JUMBA juice fucking freshdirect fresh resort. It's like this place in New York. Fill orders for fucking groceries. Brian did that for four days our bed bath and beyond. I worked at a a lot of girls and there was a lot of girls. They're aiming girls. There are more girls and guys. I was doing overnight shift overnight stock in a grocery. It's closed. It probably will not the way you want your lawyer but I did it I did. I worked back in the mail room again. I was even embarrassed to tell people I was a part of that she because it was no instagram where the fuck is going to believe me. I'm telling people like Yeah Bianca for Year right here was your pitcher pitches in it as shit so I just you know and I I did that for a few years worked at channel eleven which is focused channel Lebanon and with the fuck is WFL WFL whatever it is I remember even watch cable well yeah. I did I did that for. I got laid off from that job rehired in and got laid off again and last time I got laid off like I had a kid on another kid on the way and in while let's go put pressure on my third was on the way to him and and I was twenty nine thousand dollars name and I said I'm never getting in a regular job of it again. I mean like I'm not. I'm just trying my shit. A Moon turned into like what did you start pursuing at that point. I started my management company. I started my company already had ideas for but I try to do street wear those career I was doing. I tried to do strip for a little bit like crazy like nipsy world one of my hat's. It's one time 'cause yeah 'cause I met nipsy smoke desert. O'Connor smoke doesn't mean his childhood friends. We grew up to get really yeah. We know I know this is thirteen fourteen kicked it with him and Duke the Garden Fucking Hell Relevance Ship Harlem one time fucking projects they sent me an address showed up as big as brick buildings right. I up so desert introduce me to NICCI. You Cameron like cameras working with him. At the time he did the breakfast club and then like she was like the brings him hats and I brought a hat. He took pitches in it but my street where she didn't workout in fucking. I started the management company did that forbid hasn't produces in like that led me to meet in like Davies. Your story is crazy because you've got a lot of like fucking horseshoe up your ass moments where you just got crazy lucky but then you also have so many things that are just sorta like the standard like the thing that you have to go through. If you WANNA be dude culture you might have to have a fucking call them brand that don't really go anywhere just to learn your lesson. I mean roll it. All I did tons of shit bro like I mean like even being at Rockefeller almost went to jail or Cyprus. We was reckless showed a young guns. We was the young guns. We was young guns carrying guns everywhere. We was wiling yeah. I mean like quota gun. Charge me was together. You quote a gunshot. That was another eye opener for me now when you've got a gun charging and Jake to compensate that's the first conversation I had with J. J. One another conversation precision without him having a gun year with me like as in the guy can't be letting them run around like year because we use that yes. We got caught on where traffic film festival are marked have a metal detector or something yeah. I mean fucking Robert. Di Nero is pulling up. Sundance should all everybody playing they films. We went there like you notice. The police pulled up on us and like we tried to get about it and they they locked me up and then they gave me the money to bail them out and then the next day. I bail them out and then I get it. That's when two ways remember two ways I ah get a two way and it's like Jay wants to see both the other baseline right now. WHO's your heart sing going. Absolutely mushy drops to the bottom of my feet but it wasn't a bad conversation. We get there and J. E. Fast some words bad words he acts was up with him and then he walked out the room in a J. asked me did I know my role and he's you know your role and I'm like I. I didn't know he knew who what was the second one he liked. Do you know your role mate and he's like you'll know your own. I'm like what you mean. I don't take the gunshots he just he said you from up here right. I'm like yeah. He was like you know where they from. Different places like them carrying guns everyday like that's how they live. He was like you know. He said you see Tatham like yeah. He liked. I'm the reason why mother never have to work again. Her Life uh-huh he's like Chris and Neef could be the reason why your mother never have to work again her life. If if you know that they in putting themselves in bad situations like having guns doing dumb shit you gotta pull them inside and beat irrationality for them because if not then you won't be in a position where you're moving you've gotTa Work Life Right and I and at that time I think I was twenty. I just like I never thought of it like that. You know what I mean but yeah I mean all along my journey. I went to a Lotta Bullshit man. That's crazy shit about being Jay z's just that he could pull you aside and I have that quick conversation with you and just hit you with substrate fax ax and he knows that you really are probably gonNA listen on a level that you're not. GonNa Listen to your parents or whoever because they're not Jay Z. That's that's crazy. That's like because that's a real last conversation but it's also the kind of conversation that you might hesitate to have with a lot of people because you feel mother. fuckers ain't gonNA listen you crazy and it's like I learned the importance of like your voice like like for me. I have a voice like even in my neighborhood. I mean I'm respected in Harlem. I'm and I say that to say this as a man and got nothing to do with no street shit. You Ain't GonNa go to Harlem Yeah. Wayne was blaming him. He was doing this and he would like you know what I mean I had had I had fights. I had all types of Bush but that's not why I'm respect the former specter as a man hall like from old people to little kids too in between so it's like a lot of people in my neighborhood they look at me like like a shining example of a person that they knew that actually made it or Diso. Would they think of making it because I don't think there's no oh room making it like you know what I mean like you made it in a whether it's a little bit more attainable this guy who comes on and becomes a rabbit because most people sort of know deep down inside the Dang Amir rapper right exactly exactly but you kind of have that dream of being a media personality in our like all these different things that people who are really paying attention to the industry are starting to realize like those are passed that actually make sense to go yeah. I mean like for me so I'm really careful about how I speak. You know what I mean. Because I know like the same way I took when I I watch IRV Gotti when I was a kid I watch dame my wife Kevin Allows fucking tons of people speak and I just used to always like idolize how spoken with there was about so it was like for me. I'm very condescending by how I handle myself. How articulate myself because I don't want. Nobody getting wrong impression. It's like I'm not I'm also not gonNa tell you everything sweet because it ain't having autocratic the my head tons of crack. Something's naess too but it's like that's not what my life is about. My life is about like piven and figuring rush it out so that you don't have to be in a bad position and I got respect for that. No so I take issue with pride started management company and then yeah you meet Davies right away not not right away. Now you know what it was. I was managing my producers of Buddha in grants. You know what I mean. Buddha like do Amadeus and then like me and Buddha. We was trying to Beatson assets of game so it was just like your weekend. Get One artists that we could get all I- beats on and we get them signed and maybe we make some money so it was like that and then I the way I met Davies. These was I was at a I was. I was host along this way. I'm hosting shows. I always hosting shows like SOB's get like little hundred dollars extra day 'cause you. You say that you're not going to get a regular job. You better figure out a feed them fucking kids to pay them bills right so I'm doing that and then like he was one of the artists on the showcase and it was a few artists on it that I knew but he just the way he ran it. Nobody wrapped like him and then like we just got coo over year and then one day. I just hit him up. I was I was you always telling people like you. I want to really get this kid and I was like Oh. I hit them up like what you're doing. I came cinema. Yo- would you anybody managing you. He like Nah he like. I just been doing a show myself. I said my Osama make rich. I promise you I'm GonNa make you rich and I was like Watch what we're GONNA do like as long as you follow like the game plan of what it is I WANNA do we won't be good and like be made it into some. Did you start actually doing with them at that point because I've had a lot of different situations where I'm having a conversation. Shen with young artists feel like damn they could use a manager but I never really had it in me to really actually bite it off because it seems like so much work and I'm so consumed with this shit. It's Kinda hard to imagine. What did you start to develop this shit. Well like sort of I think he was working on a tape called black rose so he was like Oh. I WANNA get a feature so so I got like I say you. You know smoke disease. I know of them. I'm like all right. I told this I'm like you. I've got this kid. You know what I mean. He Dope. I brought I brought visit do a spot. They sat smoke one hundred blunts. Let's and he was like you. I like them do diverse did that and then my produces they did like the last track that end up being his intro on black rose so and I use my resources like along the way like along the way of me doing all his Rockefeller shot. I met meek mill like when I was six. We'll meet with sixteen. I was like twenty twenty one uh-huh so I met meek mill so I had a relationship. I've had a relationship with meet Milton's for like over Shit. Oh before. He caught his charge. Wow you know what I mean so I knew that day. Okay was a rapper as rapper so I had to put them around us so I introduced them to meet built. That's energy. Do I had a report with styles P. Put Him Round Styles P. You put him around. Jd Kiss put him around the lots that value in an around this time when like mass-appeal is reaching out and now is and all that so once the NYS Kasan came. It was like all right. Let's get him my ideologies like let me just get them around like other people that could understand that he was because I thought he was super. Dope as a rapper uh-huh so I got him around of a rap is that he was doping. We learned along the way and I mean I didn't know shit about management. I just like let me take shot so we we learned along the way and then like we we we did tons of gray work and we both got out the hood where you really work on the studio lot to where you were you getting directly involved in the music not nine not too much well. I are. We give suggestions like so I would like. Sometimes I put my head on. I never told him to change. No words like I never say oh. Don't say that say it is but whoa like shit like It will be certain songs. I'd be like Oh we should put this person on that. Why get him beats like I built a relationship with him. Ajello beats so I got him. Jallow allo beats. They did a record. I'm like yeah. Let's put this person on it and he had his own ideas so we used to work together. Bounce ideas off each other in like I will give them suggestions to make certain type that was song so he had to songs. That's on carbon should know that I hope like I didn't write these songs. I gave him the concept. You know what I mean so it was on a genie a song that was listening to every day every day. 'cause cinema love and I was like we should do during over so we did it over and it was like I said but though you should talk about people that listen Joe I send you love them and he did that. And then we got seventh street on and then we did another record where as called don't shoot while told them it was a I think it was around like right after the Mike you know black men is always getting fucking killed by police so it was like one of those so many yeah it was one of them. I can't remember which one but it was something and I sat one day and I thought about how when I was a kid. I wanted to be caught by watching TV watching police academy watching fucking chips. You know what I mean like watching. I'm watching comedy thinking that copses coup. That's actually really interesting. I can't remember a time that I thought it was okay to like cops because as I knew about rap from like eight years old I always felt like that was the first rule of rab is a cop Sunni but I see I'm talking like kindergarten. I agree but I'm I'm thinking about like as I got the first the first time I've seen a copy. Some foul shit is around like eight or nine years old is it was on my my my cousin. Who's going to the store. He was taking me to the store. He's my thirteen or fourteen and I was like eight and they jumped out. Push them up on the wall. I was a kid so they do not me but then like he put coke in my cousin pocket and he took it out but I was standing right there in Washington. Do it and he looked like this. You know what I mean and then we took the cook is it's probably like look what he got and started beating him up. Dan even lock them up. They just beat him up. Ho should I mean so it's like I seen that when I was little kids so that's what changed how I felt about police as a kid if you see that younger age it's like there's no going back. You never trusted so as I got older so I told Dave I'm like Yo I said you're GonNa Song where I want you to do. A song where like you you you wrap immature a little kid and you talking about how cops ain't that bad and then as a teenager Asia. They start fucking with you. You're not mean a bit in your voice changes and then when you become a man they pulling over and you just trying to get home and you get shot at the end of the song I gave. I just told them the concept and he was like Oh my guy he he he took like a day. I think he brought his father to the studio and he sat and talked okay follow for a long time and he called me the next day. I got the record and he did it so that's the kind of stuff that I kinda helped out with Dave I never like you know. I never vote no bars to set. You'll oh you should say. It is a change the hook like that. I just give suggestions from any type of point of view with him when he got signed yet. I got him signed. How did I go. I mean I got like yeah. I was a part of it was not like the biggest payday the bikes payday for both of us I mean the thing was like a lot of people don't know but we was trying to work out. The situation would've been like rock nation in mass appeal and it was going to be Jay Z. In is Dave Whoa. We almost made it happen but like it just business it didn't it didn't work out oh but yeah man. I never forget. Yo like I no. We we had the first conversation and then we did when it was time to do the deal. I sat in a room like it was his birthday me his lawyers set in depth jammed from nine pm on a Friday to foyer him. I called them like he was at the Club Party and it now call my men like they'll bring him to the office right now. It was like three o'clock in the morning and his contract was done any side that shit and it was like the biggest moment we ever ever had and then you run the office that long ago shoot in different points on the contract yeah me not me. Dave's lawyer and Doug Jones lawyers who shall yeah. We argued for all night. I mean we all love each other but like reading contracts is so crazy I sat there. I was like there's no way possible focused books. The sentences capital letters all means some different ships right but yeah we did that and then like that's what got us out. That's got got us out to her. You know what I mean. That was the biggest Taytay. I remember like when I got that check. I just I woke up looked at my bank account. Seen that bread I was like moving girl that we had crazy actually went ran hard and moved out of the area where I was living in the projects at the time where you move Jersey assumption. Wow that must've felt liberated as fuck me it. Did I like you know. It's crazy. I always get myself a new bar like it's like that's all I wanted to do is move at her so I had to find a new motivation after that it can be Kinda depressing when you get that that you've had in your head I that's how I felt when I wanted to open a store for so long finally opened a store and not only was it like holy. Shit is way more work for me to do now but then it was also like now I can't think of like Oh. I'm going to be happier once. I have a store. You know you'd be happy like 'cause you just have to store nobody until you logistics because now you gotTa to figure out your next goal yeah. He's APP oppressing yeah man so it was like you know we did that in an you know we couple next year like we split. We split after that third. These stop working out or senator. It just wasn't like we just wasn't in the same. We wasn't thinking the same like you know what the the ways that we was thinking. He was thanking you know a certain way how he wanted to do things and I didn't want to do things he wanted to do. Things and he didn't want to do things. I wanted to do things so we just we separate it. I mean we separated and I just went on to like keep doing my thing and then I ended up every struggle you know what I mean and then signed a few more artists artists signed to epic on Daniels. You like pop star. I met this kid and Walmart Walmart Yemen and Walmart Saddam like hey what's up. I'm Jim Jim. I don't cut it. You're saying you like the way somebody who's like like their style and attitude or something. That's just as white people from the fifties the conference but now we just walked up to me. Just ask me for the semi some music. Shit and I was like I cou ooh I mean and then Geico Him Vova Yin and ended up doing this deal to do. Triglav epic has been weird for you to go from somebody who you know. Even if the only thing the you could save yourself was I worked Rockefeller for awhile our under these dues and then I got davies-san like if that's your whole rap sheet does a pretty solid rap sheet in the music game is not a a lot of people haven't done that much but then you go and you do. Have you struggle now famously. Everybody knows who you are now like how how does that. How does that work. We like to have you already had a rap sheet of like industry work that you had done in ship and then all of a sudden now. Everybody knows if we're talking yet. It was kinda crazy. You know because like I'm not used to I'm not used to people stopped me like one and take pictures with me. You know just want to talk to me. It's so funny because whenever a person like gets five seconds with me they try try to get like their version of everyday struggle. I mean like maybe like your Ueno. What's your take about that. I'M A dog. I'm just trying to Piss me. Go to the movies like ain't that type of party but it's Kinda. It's Kinda oh man. I mean I appreciate it. Though you know what I mean because I never I adam like. I didn't think I'd be Shit of I. I didn't think I'd be anything and my mom always told me I'd be some but the Dan I really believe they would like to be. Something is Sarah. Thanks so like whenever people approach me like like I I give him my time. I mean if you respectful now. I give them my time in and save up to him and all that L. but I I love it man. I love my life. I want to trade if enough nose. Was it hard for you to build rapport with academics. It's very challenging to create that sort of chemistry on camera. How hard is it to build that it was kind of it was it was kind of funny is still so like you know when I get there you know there was star and you note in the starship stops the non one near in Phnom deaths in the middle of the whole Takashi Shit and I got my reservations about like how I feel about a lot of Shit. I I mean he was doing and I wasn't jacking a lot of that shit. You know what I mean and I was home. I was telling you about that and then I also had a perception of him but I I was was like I was a fan of his work. 'cause I watched I tuned into like all his blog shit. Just listen to all my stuff. Not I just like like hearing them talk about like the one shy rack all that shit and in like working with him was kind of like I didn't know who he was a he know why was so we never standoffish but I was collar already fuck this Nigga like when I first got there but like acas really cool. Do you know what I mean like aside from what everybody may think about him and he do a lot of Shit that tons the people question but what I have to deal with him for oppose. Everybody don't have to deal with him for what I did with him for so like he's really a cool dude and I fuck with him. You know what I mean but I we had our moments. You know what I mean like when we had when I hold Takashi she came down. We had an episode that got Kinda like like I kinda went hard on him but the reason why we went hard on him because he was doing shit saying Shit about my name when I was in Iraq did the the pull up shit with Joe. He I remember. He did a video radio and he was here. He was like cazenove was dead. Wayne always did you know Takashi. All Nigga suck his Dick and I'm like first of all on New York like this whole my diction some new Shit in New York like uh people from south always laugh at us because they'd be like man people. Take that so serious. I remember mm-hmm when I was fourteen. I told somebody suck my Dick. Ado said don't don't ever say that unless you you you're. GonNa kill somebody you ready to die and I mean that's how serious that is. That's the ultimate level of respect in New York. I don't know what it might be. It might be whacking out. Somebody Hood is some shit like that. You know what I mean so when he said that on my damn act like I'd be on the show what you say so when the technology should came to a head like I kinda went hard at him. You know what I mean but by that we got past that we have a fun only shall this kind of weird when you think about academic position just because he sort of like manage to build this giant platform off of presenting himself as the number one on go to stop for fuck. Ary In the rap game absolutely and a lot of people can't separate him from that platform like they can't look at academics and and not think about the fact that academics is the first one the post a fight if they get beat up or gets the shit smacked out of him against the chain whatever it was like a one man Worldstar a world worldstar used to kind of be weight whereas I always said that he's like Worldstar and it's like it's it's weird because a lot of people really hate him for that and will never be able to just consider him as like just a dude you know what he said to me and I asked him one time like. Oh why there's some about like the posting of content and they say oh it. Dangle budget is all outdoors reposted shit that they pose. I'm not I'm not making none of this like. I'm not putting them together. I always equated act to like to do who if you're in the lunchroom and somebody say somebody your mom's but you'll really hit and he'd be like Yo. You Ain't here with this like you'll you three o'clock. You got fight like he'll say. He said that you're going to take that. He's that Nigga and like that's the person that like no no. Everybody is like cool whip because they should up but you'll really bother him. You know what I'm saying like because his position is really out of the space like for for me like I like even with everything going on with. I'll be telling him socially you'll now. I don't think you should do that. I don't think you say ended the day here. Man He got stand on his words and it's funny go to because academics and that's a big part of what Piss people off of him is that he's always done shit that he couldn't do if he was just around talking about other Chicago's Shit if he was just a dude that you could catch chilling the barbershop talk about this shit because somebody literally would have him. Dvd I smoke in academics. Packs hacks still to this day. If that happened man no we wouldn't. We're not going to talk about that. I mean it's just that's the crazy part about as he has always been smart enough to keep himself. Separate it from all the bullshit so it's kind of like you know if if nobody catches him slipping then it is what it is you might not like them but y'all ain't done nothing to him. So it is what it is I mean the thing is is like what people gotta take. An account to is that academics is a civilian. He's a fucking civilian. He not against the but there's a lot of people who wanted to smack your man McMillan. The Dream Chase kill him at one point right absolutely not now meet with. I'd say I sadism the nobody to play with because I know I didn't meet Meek Ono music sheet. I met him as a kid in the street. They used to ride dirt bikes that uh-huh because he one of his close friends at the time was a dude that he was one of them. Young he was young he was sixteen but was given it up in the streets and that's how I knew them him. Wrapping was just like extra. You know what I mean but yeah they definitely wanted to catch him and shit at the end of the day. You do something to him. He sued them what area yeah you're not going to like. You don't WanNa have to pay a million dollars in probably I don't know if he's GonNa fucking go hard with charges to his extended law. You know what I mean. You'll want to catch no charge. Josh fucking with this due to Macmillan probably right. I mean ain't going like meek ain't even on that man like McCain. Even meek is in a whole new place. I'm proud from our guy man now wow yeah but he was. He was mad couple years ago. He was but I was always happy form though because I know he come from like you know what I mean like I i. I used to be in the studio with meat when he had the Ankle Monitor on. It'd it'd be like I it's eight o'clock. I gotTA fucking go. I can't finish this verse Miana Seen Him do that a few times him o'meley all of them. You know what I mean so it was like to see what he's been enable like shit when he got 'em was a fucking big thing for me right now. I mean just to see a dude that like I know that he will he come from and I know his people to see him. Make some of yourself on a level yeah yeah. That's why a lot of people on the show all Ueno's Meek Mill Dick Rod like a dog. If you knew somebody who is when I met me he was industry. He was in like he was he had no money was hustling industries and he became something. You went celebrate that I'm not. GonNa wait for him to die. I'm not waiting for nothing. The happened to meet for me to say I love him and for me to say he's one of the best out there. That's my dog always things that the fans want you to default to a position of NOG giving a fucking and not having any empathy and not being proud of a guy made it and that's weird because we should be happy to see anybody. Make it out of this situation anatomy and people you know the fans. Do they want you. They hype you up to do some stupid. Because you're stupid they veru they love the fans. Do they'd be like aw man like like I remember when I had to load the whole soldier boy shit when he was on the show. Everybody was like Oh soldier but he didn't threaten me. He was upset and not like one thing. I respect soldier boy yeah. I mean I respect them. I think that he's very misunderstood. I think that a lot like he made a lot of money at a young age. I can't imagine having that being the head of household making that amount of money we're having a whole people down people probably stealing from he'd been to a lot of shit. He lost. I think he lost his brother all types of Shit. He's frustrated. I mean he's frustrated. So when this happened people was like Y'all you should afford him. You should this you pussy you this you that. I'm like okay. You got to be a real knucklehead to have the opinion that you should fight somebody on camera at Porno your parking. There's this exactly this is the thing right so all. I'm saying people let's say I jump up me and soldier boy gets a scuffle. It goes viral. Everything goes crazy when all Monday the fuck Wendy. We're not come in and they say you know they everybody for complex semi down like your way no you no this is dope. This is not the type of stuff we need here man like you have to let you go and I lose out on my check that I'm getting you know what they're gonNA. Call me stupid through through prefer so they're gonna be like you tell me. I should have did something stupid to get a stupa result. Just a call me stupid. I'm not crazy. My Dodge prison like for real like my friends. I got somebody to like even here. I fucked with a lot of people that know what side to she so like I mean i. I'm one of the ones that dodged a lot of the bush. I'm I'M NOT GONNA buy it. Shook me out of my freedom right yeah. has there been any was that the time that you felt the most disrespected on the show many other guests that kind of set some shit the denser sir. I would not feel disrespected because I didn't feel threatened like all he did but he was talking he was taught I would I got mad at is when when he said Y'all is stupid now. Look keeping calling he didn't he would call academics. Fuck Nigga stupid everything for our academics men. If he comfortable with that that's fine he was like it's one thing to watch it on camera an onset. It's a different thing. He was giving me the energy when he said Y'all stupid stupid niggers and we got a woman sitting here. Let's not forget that is a woman in a black woman and I don't give a fuck if someone ended Urvashi a black woman and a tough as any woman a black woman specifically in a tough position. I'm going to defend that. I mean that seemed pretty crazy when he was saying. I was just like soldier. Nobody he he was just he was more more mad at academic. He didn't even know me on the show he say. I'm sorry I'm not mad at that. I'm the Nigga from the behind the scenes that ain't supposed does the being so so when it happened. I was like oh come on brother as men Clinton up because we you know and that was the first time where I seen how media will flip things because everybody's showed that when he got up he was trying to walk out with his stuff and nobody show when he was the human part of him. They wanted to show the bullshit. Nobody nobody shows soldier boy and I'm not saying this down him. He say Bravo. I apologize for calling off stupid. Nobody showed that and I didn't want nobody to say look oh he he he's not really no he. He noticed his false right then and there and media ran with just a bullshit. I'm like all K now. See what I mean. That's the first time I was getting Um I go. It's a weird thing to see for the first time and especially like academics had to go through those growing pains like member when the fucking migos should happen with him and then complex exactly and that was probably like a learning moment for complex as well because complex fully turned him into a meme and just highlighted the fuck out of it put out their own highlight clips not in the basket ascalon slow motion one. Oh my God I could be like Yo I'm working for. You can't just make me look like a just like go viral on instagram yeah man. I mean I mean like I just I'd be like this man with this. When it comes to this this music shit because all these guys think they took just take something man take Ju Jitsu some do shitting Your Spirit Thompson. If if you do get into something you get it over with fast. You know what I mean like. I'm not in it for that like I'm not in it to get into altercations and none of that. Shit I mean but it just was complex. I fuck with complex I mean with my perspective of the brand was different at that moment when that Shit went down right. I mean because it's like but I guess they had to look at it like like Shit. Let's make the best of it right. I think academics had a problem with it. People look at him as that type of person as a mean all day every day. okay is that we're for you because it seems like you're more intent on being and taken as a straight person and respect for your work and stuff academics as much as he wants to be respected for his work and everything that is a certain extent to which which he's willing to make himself the butt of the joke yeah. I kind of liked that about. I'm not I'm not with that because I just I represent a certain type of place like I represent certain types of people when when I'm not with that like the thing is just respectful I didn't I didn't have conversations with all types of artists that did not know me that that had met me in respect your perspective on the show. This is down at their. I I'm a man of integrity like ended the day I don't represent myself. I represent a woman when I walk outside. I represent my children. When I walk outside. I represent my mother my father. I'm not just out here for me. I don't live music and I mean a lot of people depend on me so the thing is like when I when I deal with people I'm GonNa deal with you at the. I'm not a journalist. You know what I mean like. I don't I just deal with people human beings like I don't like if it's something as Barbie and I guess that's good journalism when you when it's something that's fucking with a person you get them to talk about the worst part of it but I know that I'm if I'm not that type of report which I'm not gonNA mention the Bullshit Bullshit that you do in your life 'cause I don't like artists. I'm not gonNA excellent artists about women fucking woman. She's a woman she fucking. I'm not concerned with that. I'm concerned the music how you make it should come up. How can you know what can others learn. You know what I mean what you're doing to to not to put up a people on but what you're doing to keep your so fresh in a game or there's some perverse incentives in the game just in the sense that if you have somebody in the show and you ask him the Big Dickhead question and you get him to walk out or something that could be the moment that everybody on you know if you look at a lot of Charlemagne's biggest moments and this is after all these years of doing just high quality interviews a lot of his biggest moments that went viral and everybody everybody knows them with just the one time that he sorta Kinda crossed the line was each and that's the thing though I can't Chrissy line because I never I never wanted to be here to to establish a line of begin with so it's like for me. I'm trying to I'm trying to create more new content. Shit like twenty twenty. I'm trying to roll out new things and do things but I wanna based on like me and the type of people who think like me and I not 'cause I watch everything I watch you know when when I was here I mean and all of that Shit I watched all types the stuff that that goes viral increase your hit you about. TJ X. fucking best interview about the Doug was amazing. I was like like this motherfucker talking talking like he's never heard of beyond for like he's talking crazy but it made for great contest so I'll watch but I you know what it is to. Adam like a lot of people not chew specifically but I say like certain people that look for certain rises out of people. That's they money making our from Harlem me. I'M GONNA give money regardless godless name. I'm GONNA give him money with Music Shit with some. Whatever if I got again a sports I figure that shit out gotta get into like selling juices. I've already what is so. What if I gotTA GET INTO ANY GAME I will. I always say you bring me the United States. You can't you bring a horse to water but you can't make a drink. Bring me to fucking. Would I'M GONNA make waterpark ain't getting fucking making a slide from the top of the sky down fuck. I'm GONNA show you how to get it so let's say I'm on when you were right there front center. Dr This whole fucking insane drama happened between the desk and star and clearly. You're pretty tight with her. What was your perspective on that. Because I was from outsider perspective. I was so fascinated by it because here you have complex and you know they have this woman working here and it's a very male charged environment right but they're they're tested on more talent and everything and and the last position they want to be in is hiring somebody who has a history of sexually harassing the one woman who said. Oh well he said the sniffing Sniffen chair or something. I can't remember he said I saw the funny. I am GONNA lie. When I was a kid. I used to wake up early to his star in the morning ice. I E loves. I'm talking about He. I even after working with him out tremendously respect them and this is how men that this ended up. Why won't say this ended up on his show. What happened was was the desk they had the interview when he was apologizing for whatever was he has said to the desk broker so she says shits and I texted like in the dust could talk your shit and then she hit me a week later and was like Oh you should come through. That's what made her think of you as a potential co host. I don't know I don't know but you know me and got her good report but it was because of that I was watching it and I was like talk shit which I didn't think stall was going to be put off the show but yes star does have a history but the thing is like star for May. That's the type of content he makes. I don't know if the people I don't know who hired him on there but I don't I I. I know that like you have to know who you dealing with lesson. Star mayor is the fucking listen star satiate. The people like men fuck you in your black people call up. He's he's the blaze Starr Man. We're trying to get out of China. Eastern studies black man get pistol. Fiji fans and I used to fuck in eastern. Keep arouse clowns like I'm used to be a fan of stars is a kid growing up so I was looking at it from a fan perspective and I may yet that was a a moment there. I wasn't there at the time. It was crazy because you know think about it from in her perspective. Is that if she had said No. I don't WanNa work with them. You've got to get rid of them that they almost definitely would have done it but then at the same time it's like this is hip hop. She doesn't want to be the one who's kind of getting somebody five or something that was like kind of on Air Joke and Shit so she did that. You agree with her decision to say Nah. Fuck it. He can still come on the show and for her just sorta one. I wasn't even I wasn't even privy to information of him being still on the show they just was like some shit like Yo. We really liked you on hair so we you WanNa have you as a fourth guest. I mean I was started and then like when it went in like when he was taking a break it was like you know this. May Or may not happen that I like. I was saying before but but like I didn't. I was even thinking that I was just GonNa pay me to talk shit. y'All have to pay me to shut up. I mean it was good like I'm like complex. She's me well yeah. I have ballpark idea and it's definitely like from doing anything else. Outside the sort of industry they probably felt like a fucking upgrade absolutely absolutely and I mean it it. It also opened me up to a new audience of people. You know what I mean plus. I you know I just took this position. You know at asylum in our shit so it's it's a lot of a kid that they might see me on the show and be all. That's the guy I might be. If you watch me on the morning I might be fucking in your email elated potentially sign you. you know what I mean so it's like it's it's open me up to new avenues ideas and you know another thing was like this game is built off. Comebacks man is built off for like stories is and when when me and east had split it was like what's going to do next you know what I mean and it's like that game. I mean when that came one thing. I say about about being in his music industry. I got a lot of people that route for me like I know that genuinely people that that roof for me now Latin as everybody my best friend no but I got a lot of people but I do WanNa see me do good. It's probably want to do bad. I don't know I don't know them and I'll give a fuck about them but for the people that do WanNa see me do good. I'm on it. You know what I mean so it makes sense to me to do that. Positions are going to take that so what is the actual day. Did you just expected to bring X. amount of artists in average week. Hey check these out. Are you more or like your finest. Pacific artists that you're really excited about trying to actually make shit happen well. You know I got it team up there. So you know what I mean like my men Nico. You know what I mean. He's another an Nahda works in me. He handles research and Shit. I mean that's how I found out about. TJ Six told us about T J X Sixty with super early I think tj might have had like five thousand followers Graham Yeah so I was watching shift for like you know I mean I was watching it for like one. I was listening to songs and I just thought it was like I don't i. I don't want to disrespect him. I didn't take them like as no supreme lyricists and Shit like that. I just thought that he had a different. Take were rat and it was he had waived. I mean I was I don't. There's does so excuse me like my my typical. Day is come into the office it might be. Everybody got artists now. Everybody has already people. Send Me Shit all day every day. So that's your schedule. You go do everyday struggle in the neo straight there so I do. I do everyday struggle at a shall. We start at seven. Am I'm done by like thirty nine o'clock clock most days and it's forty thirsty asylum on fiftieth street so I walk up the block walk at the black going office. Go to the gym. I mean come. I'm back in office. Get my shit right start going over emails and stuff from artists that have already signed and they just see what's out there and I mean an flop places like I flew to Chicago to meet with in case of China work. They're trying to sign may we. We did a few things you know what I mean so it's interesting because when you get that job it's like you. You'RE GONNA be judged on the success of the Shit that you actually sign that you work the same time. It's like you probably are going to be able to escape by for however long without necessarily putting in the full work. It's it's like I feel like when people get positions. Labels is so much on you like if you WANNA be the fucking president of that company in ten years work your ass off and sign all the important acts for that company company and you might be able to get there but if you just kind of do the bare minimum open. You're GONNA kinda slowly. Let me tell you this so like even with that like I'll. I'll feel no pressure man. You know what I told somebody as you for your precious precious selling drugs pay bills pressures fucking trying to figure out how to get out the projects not mean rushes rushes having beef with a small fucker that that's like that and you can't go to sleep until you figure out what's going to happen next day. That's pressure they should I know pressure for me and I mean like this. This should is actually fun so for me like this is all a dream but like I'm trying to make the best of it and what I mean by that is like when I when I am signing artists. I'm trying to develop artists like I'm not into the whole fucking numbers game. Oh his numbers is this. Let's it streaming that give him whatever he was. I'm not into that Shit. 'cause I might not fucking like you know what I mean and you might be a fucking like. You know what I mean like. They real shit like I. I'm a I'm a science. Somebody give them a life changing opportunity because they got a bunch of numbers but they're fucking bad person there dickhead they come in the room. Don't look people in the item shake. Everybody for Goleta is going to be more artists out there so I do my shit with integrity. I mean don't get me wrong. It's a lot of artists. You know what I mean out the ship. I'm not just trying to grab anything like my time. At asylum I want to be defined by sound and each artist signed has their own sound. I haven't signed to artists. That sounded like so. It's like I want my time to be there like you'll you know he had this kid and that kid made this or he had that kid and that kid me that you know what I mean and we we running numbers up when we do great perfect but I just wanted my shit did 'cause it's not forever. I want might sound be defined by me giving opportunities to the people that deserve it and putting them in a position to be initiative ten years yeah I mean Davies is an interesting one because you had to have been looking at him like this is a duty talented on the Mike Him as good music and he's got the look. He looks good on camera so that's kind of an easy sell a lot of times. When I'm looking at artists it kind of feels like they got one like. There's a whole bunch of different characteristics but they'll have a few of them but not the you're always hear artists who've got really amazing voice and ship and then they'll look terrible on camera. I mean that's the thing with east it was like he grabbed his ass off but like I likeable and he like an all bitches like and it was like like the first challenges we had that was meet him and take his hat off. He used to come every with it was like this news to street and I used to be like taking fucking doglike is well. You take your head off like I'm like like women want to look at your face like like people. He told Shit you walk in the room. He's the Senate essentially because he's saw that we used to argue about that because he used to want to take his hat. I take you add August. I looked at it like that. Thing him was like because I looked at it. I look at I look at artists is like a businesses so they remember he said that should about how Travis Scott Travis Scott have like three business owners managing him instead of just a manager some shit like that right which I'm not taking it from his manager because managers do but like I look at artists artists as a building and you have different flows like you got the the artist rapper floor right. You have the fuck in on the philanthropy floor if they WANNA get into that she you got the the look look you know what I mean the brand inside like I look at all of that when I try to Sol artists so it's like I'm super picky with Shit. You know what I mean but I also understand that Meson an artist. This is not always about me. I mean like I pay attention to the kids like every time I get an artist. I played that shift from my kids which I think they'd be like. I already felt like they will say focused Taylor but does that. Is that enough for you to be turned off when the kids don't fuck with because a lot of times you might be looking at something something that they're they're going to have to warm up to do you if my mind is made up. My mind is made up but I look at what they say. You know what I mean. I look at like certain things that they into certain things they say because I was the same kid when I was when I was fifteen fifteen. You cannot tell me nothing about the locks. That was fucking saved. My life like their music was my soundtrack to my everyday so when a dude is telling me about and don't get me wrong. I was young enough to see big Daddy Kane but when you telling me JD KISS is not bettered in him or even rock him like me personally rock Jada Kiss and styles how's P. and Sheikh. They've music meant more to me. Rock comes music so the same way. How A kid. It'd be like a kid who say you advocate. That's a fucking fan or you act like y'all so. How do you feel about Jay z's music daisies fuck you talk about he's seventeen. Do you expect them to know what would jay Z'S I. I'm not saying that he shouldn't do homework. That's one thing I'm not. GonNa say like as far as homework but would means something to him as chief Kief Little Wayne and if you'll take a told me that he had gone back and listen to reasonable doubt and ill matic and shit and that he respected and appreciate it. I would think that was so fucking dope yeah but I'm not expecting this fifty fucking years. IRAP wrap history to go through. I hear I'm not expecting that is so I started listening to public enemy when I was like twenty one for row because all I knew was the singles I knew like fight the power on nine one one is a joke like certain Shit. That was the video. I was listening and I was a little kid when she came out with. I wasn't listening the public enemy albums. I couldn't understand the words that they was articulate nor the subject matter newstalk my even Nwea. I didn't like I didn't listen today. She when I got like twenty years old I went and being around being see. He told me that you go get America's. Most wanted ice cube. Go listen to death certificate. Listen fucking of favor black planet listening strategy comte. He tells me go listenership so I'm tuning in nineteen twenty years old and like Oh shit they say and stuff but that's but I wasn't like I you know nobody told me if you ask me a question like yours. Chuck d one of the best rap he not better than method out because because Wu Tang clan men everything to me so I wouldn't have been like I said some shit that if I'm a rap is GonNa make headlines. He doesn't think this he not born in that era. They everybody buddy now going to feel the same way yeah definitely I wanted us this the two very different sides of of the business you're a manager you sign saina artists restart recommend the artists and then you're with them so much you're constantly around him and then when you're with a label the whole goals signed a bunch of artists and you don't really spend that much time with anyone in in particular. Is this a strange thing for you to get used to the idea of investing in somebody's career and then being sort of hand off not so I mean away I rushing now is like like when I was with Dave I was everyday well not everyday but like when we own the role we together every day when we gotta do shit together every day. We didn't hang in between Tom too much but like we used to give all the time now now that I didn't know that there was a difference between a day to day in a tour manager and a business manager in this managed like I didn't know all the differences so so what I do now is like I have people that work for my company because academics gave me the gym. I AIN'T GONNA lie. He was like Oh my company named strong offense. He said you'll you. You GotTa get people to want triangle. Offense Management Not Ueno's management because when people say they want you to manage them they're not thinking about the company with the company can do they just thinking about you and you being with them and I was like Damn I didn't and that's why I didn't understand that. So what I do now is like my artists. Today's I handle their business so I ended date IANNUCCI A business. I talked to them. You know what I mean. We stay in contact but I'm not with them on a day to day so it was like I I've been I've gotten used to that now. You can't artists a fucking crazy animal day. I mean just the responsibility to run around with artists all the time. I do you feel like you're officially too old to like the fuck no no six years old but to be running around until I feel too old to be to find a rapper into WanNa be in the studio with him. All you want to be running around the different shows and clubs now. I'm over that. I don't think so. It's two. It's two ways like lake. I don't think I'm too old for I just feel like I paid my dues. In Iran I did I've done. I've slept in studio for two days. Wash my as I've watched my as today's out the whole week before in the sink all types of Shit so I'm past that part like as you as you grow as as you grow as a businessman you what you gotta elevate. I mean you're not you're not handling things the same way used to so like I'm too old for the bullshit. Now I'd be too old for the Asana an artist and you want fucking Gang Bang and all this stupid shit and I need to make phone calls to get you out of trouble. I am with none of that shit but that's kind of what it is to be a label right like I long conversation when she keeps manager a few times and I'm just realizing like Holy Shit you got the patience of a fuck insane like I would have been out there and like I would have been out in two weeks but that depends on who you WanNa do it. Maybe I just don't do it the bullshit I mean for me I'm not I'm not a fucking I mean I don't care about that she because she don't get you good come on the street so I don't care about about chilling on Oh. This is such and such block. Let's go chill over there like I don't give a fuck about that. If I'm in the hood somewhere it is because I'm going to see somebody. I got love with that standing on the corner so I like when it comes to artists. I don't do all of that so artists that if you might think is this you want. I WANNA be a tough guy joined the fucking. UFC because you ain't none of them know what I'm saying or you. WanNa be artists and business me. Stay over here and do this so you can't blurred lines. You know what I'm saying. I'm not with that blurred line. Shit like people be one. They don't know who the fuck they wanna be and you know what a big thing about just back to the conversation conversation. We had initially not just that. I was scared when I moved there. I didn't know who I was. I define myself. I know why in I'm comfortable ever met but you understand and why kids join gangs because the world is so scary and to have that idea of to have a bunch of people who have your bag is one thing one person to have you. Back is one thing to have an idea. I disagree group that thousands of people across the country theoretically or at the very least dozens of people in your neighborhood. That's irresistible to a young kid. I mean it is but I saw Bush it see. That's the thing everybody looks at the. I'M NOT GONNA lie. If you view initiate from that knowing anything that she looks cool right right it looks cool. You get to wear this color cool shit in the world and it looks cool. You get the weirdest color you get the duty special handshake. You Got Certain Code Words so so you got put some work in that's where you're going to see where your heart is. You got to shoot somebody. You don't know for for a reason you don't really you. GotTa you. GotTa put you put working. You put working in an easy to go to sleep after that's the part that don't know by. Tell you about when you got heart. Somebody and will you hurt somebody not just getting away with it but mentally when you go to sleep and you think about what the fuck you had to do to somebody that shit is not easy to get away with it and what happens with that medication you so so certain ways and then you medicate yourself so much that you don't give fuck and then you start doing all types of. Shit and it's a fucking rabble hole that you go down that you can't get out of that leads to what so why it may look attractive is not and I understand wanting to be a partisan specifically. I speak for black people. We we tribal. We WanNA fill and that's why we got fraternities as we got certain types of groups. That is why we got little cliques. Gangs types of Shit army is everybody you want to feel like they're part of something to some extent weather's religion or politics or whatever I'm a Democrat I'm this. I'm that I'm I'm you know. I'm a hot boy hot girl everybody you want to feel like they partisanship so. I get that but my thing is don't do nothing. That's going to be detrimental like. What is it worth. Is it worth your mother fucking crying. I'm not I don't want to be the person. Ma focused got to get a goal for me to put your ass in dirt. Shit is crazy. You more focused. They're beefing. Streets ain't got life insurance so you are beefing. Even you want problems and you get killed. You get murdered. Your mother came to do shit. She got to go you. Mal Focus be dying. You know it's crazy. I noticed this by working to corporate America. When I work in corporate America and people that I work with white people they lost a family member. The more focused dial on Wednesday. They asked us in the ground by Saturday. That quick black people died. He's my focus is chilling for three weeks for it should Israel. He's more focused channel for three weeks. He died on Monday or we got to bury him next next month whoa because they can't afford to fucking bury how gangsters against harsh harsh ain't cool. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying with these kids. I mean but I'd be telling kids. I'd be like listen. You know you go to high school and you had you had that guy to come in and say hey y'all you know I grew up in. This neighborhood. Niger stayed in house. I I didn't get anything in college and I'm all right. I'm adopted net first of all none of that. She seems fun. None of this seems cool kids one of his stories about experience. They WANNA see somebody. I'm a person that could say here. I was out here. I was outside at this shit and I had some shit done to me and guess what I ended up trying to do the right thing because because in a fun doing the wrong thing so that's what pushing on these kids because you're an interest in position where you've been through a lot in relatively recent memory and you probably meet a Shitload a young people install in terms of artists and everything. How do you talk to them about the risks that they should be taken beekeeping hunting with the meal like all? These kids want a may now for a deal. I want a million dollars. I want a million dollars for way. which will do you want a million dollars like okay do so? I'll I'll be looking at it like I'd be telling people like this. Even when companies with somebody you a deal. It's not a deal for you to deal for both parties right so you you want the money you know what I'll give you the money but I wanNA know how I'm getting my money back and then and somebody who's like I said listen if you're fucking cousin as you for two hundred dollars right and Jason down on their luck no matter how tough it is if you ain't really got to you want to say I'm GonNa give it to you. But how do I get it back. You think labels this thinking any different so you want this money for this investment. This is an investment when you go to the bank and you asked for it. You go to the bank for along with the extra for business credit credit but what else a business plan they say. What's Your Business Plan. What's the cash flow. Was the portfolio like how are we quantifying Wiz. The you could do that wherever light that's how you get in business and anything else music everybody just WANNA walk in and get a check and then when you get the check and you get fucked over because his is what happens we give it is million dollars or I'm not going to say we 'cause I well. I'm saying this I'm not pro label. I mean I'm pro success. I'm not pro label. Success comes out you get it so Judas bread. They put out some music. Don't hit how to last year cool. We took that shot put out some more music that don't hit how to lash but now union ran through that whole million dollars we gave you so you start panicking Yoga some like Oh. I need another of events I need. No you can't get enough events to fuck. We just gave you a million dollars. What you do man I well. You can take the rights to this and let me get that. Now you fucking yourself. All you're going to do is keep fucking yourself over and over and over so I just be telling kids. It's not my business to teach you business. It's nobody's he's business to teach your business but learned the business. If you're going to get into music learn fucking business because these kids these deals yeah you get four million dollars of front in China Front eleven times out of ten. I might take but at the same time you might be given up or you're publishing rights on it back off the rip. You might be giving up all your royalty. She writes will be getting crazy. Royalty raise ten years down the line. Your mom gets sick or some shit. You Ain't got the money you've got. A fucking song is on Eminem's commercial and I saw a you didn't get to check you. WanNa know how you took that fucking money early on. You have a four million dollars. Probably that's a lot more than you probably gonNA. Make the vast majority of the time from your actual career me independence when you go for the massive upfront dance. You're really kinda betting against yourself you are. You're betting that you're gonNA have a short burst of a career in the nothing's going to happen and afterwards case you're killing but they don't know that think Oh. I'm batting killed like four million. I'm out and I'm going to do this. Then we all know number no taxes none of that shit no multiple different artists that are basically like just pretty unpopular like not relevant like underground type artists the sign for over a million dollars within the last couple of years. The fans have no fucking clue and if I told them that there's random guy was a video on elevator fucking million dollars from a label and then continued to nothin' even popped up after they'd be like I seen a kid to get a million dollar deal name and put it out name and put it in put out into the project got enough and he got a million dollars. They tried to get me. I'm like live with the only this like. It's like this right. It's like Shit Right. It's like this. I'll be looking at the holiday court. These artists artists the same way. How a chick that you never met is would try to set you up bright light. Okay you pop in his standard third. You just met her on Monday. Wednesday she in love with you. She loved you at you. The best smartest you the funniest you'll ever meet you. Don't find nothing wrong with that like you. Just just let me I ain't solar fucking ready. I got some potential. I'm doing okay. I might but I could get a labor deal. I could get the big check. I could get all all this money invested in me. Why is that so you think that they give you this money without knowing what they're gonNA make their raid. The projections the the the the fight is fixed after you get what you get out of your which you got the next 'cause if you ain't got none next okay piece. These kids don't even understand the amount of money that a labor could fucking spend and it don't affect their bottom line and they think that they special because they got this money. Let me tell you if you took a million dollars for a deal. You Ain't special because a million and I don't even have a million dollars. Dollars is not a lot of money entertainment as nothing others. There's people that you're signing two months. They got many many millions of fortune five hundred companies and I didn't see that with dudes that work in television at raise twenty million foot some shit that never happened grow. I worked in television. He's like yeah. We raised twenty million dollars for this new channel. The Shit never happened and they raise as the brand new like yeah I had him. Give Me Brad Him in him and you sitting here trying to figure out how you're going to stop Burger King Linda. Right now what I'm saying so it's like shit don't just just and I know it's tough. Ah You're going to get into the music business. Try to learn charter. Learn how you can. When you look at your potential career path. It's like do you find yourself veering more towards being on air personality or being behind the scenes label guy because you could be Charlemagne or you could be the Guy Label. Let me tell you this might be able to make some pretty pretty good man. I'm doing every day doing everything doing everything well good. I'm doing everything because like you know front. This media spaces fire and I mean it should it's dope. nope is lucrative is money in it especially in creating content. If you got shit that's distinctive Dang. That's ill. I you play both off each other because like you're saying you you become a more famous through everyday struggle boom that could help you like crazy and absolutely absolutely. I've been kids. Take you serious. We knew on sign them and shows actually doing. I'm doing both because it's like I mean I've worked worked. Let me say I'd done so many jobs. I had so many I don't apply for so many jobs that I didn't get that. Put Time and apply for jobs that I took the two years trying to get that. I never got and for me to be doing this right now. I'm only thirty six show. fucking mark became a billionaire at forty three or some shit like doc. He's fifty something and I'm not like one. Another thing. Too is like the whole billionaires in order to be a billionaire. You gotta be doing real distinctive shit but I'm learning. I mean I'm I'm learning. I feel like my people like black people. We don't only ones that. Put these unfit as expected on ourselves like if by the time I'm thirty if I married got the house a dog and a kid my life shit keeps put out album called finally Richard Eighteen finally rich. I got fucking sneakers older than chief eighteen donovan like sixteen or seventeen either way finally finally rich. Finally what's the. I finally did it but that's what I'm saying. I just I feel like but you know what that's that's due to the conditions that we live in because we fucking dying every day because we're not appreciate ourselves. You know what I mean. I said I was talking talking on my home. He's early. I say you'll listen kind of fucked up but you got angry as racist police killing black people. You got mashed shooters. What is woken in places killing black people and then we got black people killing black people like we s exhausting being me sometimes but the thing about batted is is like I'm not giving up men and I know that like a desert that pocket about sparking mines like I really believe that because there's so many things that that I've seen is like how nipsy right Nipsy Gone Nece- bent taught like you could go to every interview. He never said nothing crazy. He never was talking crazy as far as like even when it came to him talking about being done with the sixties he was like yeah we bang in the week he never talked said nothing out of pocket he always articulated itself to a certain degree but it took him to pass for people to appreciate that he always had that type of narrative. That's sentiment that's hype ideology type of smart but it's took this man and lose his life so for me. I'm just trying to wake as many people as up as I can. Tell them like Yo. You know unfortunately what happened to my man. NIP happened but like it's so many Yala Biala and that's what he was trying to do show that got something in Y'all even when you don't feel like we do like that. That's what got me to where I'm at today 'cause I felt like even when I didn't even window world. Fa- I was like what the fuck else am. I GonNa do what else I'm GONNA do. I gotTa do this shit so I'm doing everything for the worst day of your life like the worst times the worst level impression I ever had in my life. All I had to do is think to myself all right so you're gonNA kill yourself because you definitely not gonNa kill yourself and the only other option is to keep fucking going yeah yea like if you're not gonna give up then you gotta keep going and not just like was enough to just put it in perspective. I just tweeted this the other day like my broker's. Tom's is what came up with my best. I did numbers broke. His tongue is like I I one time I was around some people and I was like coming up with ideas trying to help them out with shit because it's like I just feel like I'm walking out. There like my brain will turn and also go to sleep and my man was like how to fuck you coming up like coming up with all this shit. I say if you see in the building. I live in a row of you. If you got to walk walk into building think about this item would the building. I was living in a walk in the building at the time my daughter's like two years old. I gotTa pick up so she don't step on pissing elevator. She got smaller. I go on my house. I gotTa See roaches not me. I'd had bedbugs and I'm saying I'd come outside. You walk down a staircase and seeing the people saint people taking the shit in staircase humans taking shit in this case. This is how I'm living on a day-to-day basis that shit put that something in me that said if you don't you better get your family deserve better than this so that's why I met with it and that's when a person when a person come to me blade. You got an artist. I got this. I got that if you ain't trying to be great. I don't WanNa hear that Shit. If you just try and get money you fucking trip than full in brick ankle and get money. That's why I told somebody the other day like Bro. I think they got the Lotto. They got a lot of all this fucking money. You can make money ninety ninety five percent of people that had a lot of lose lose lose a lot. I mean lose the money WanNa why because there was never trained for it it was never built for it just happened. It's tougher to maintain bread so like I just I built myself. I conditioned myself light on bill for this shit like once more. She started happening for me as media Waza. I'm bill for this shit. I know what I'm doing. I know why am I know what I'm about about to do and I just be trying to encourage the youth that 'cause I've been you've. I know what it's like to be eighteen. Everybody's everything you're saying a stupid or people saying you seventeen the fuck. Do you ain't going no nineteen twenty one. You Ain't did shit by the time you twenty five. You know what it is and I learned. I know what is twenty five and look back at your eighteen. I notice it'd be thirty and look back about eight months sixteen sixteen year old so so now. I'm just telling him you filling in here like you'll. It ain't working in it. You'll get back on horsemen for real. I think I think the thing that's separating you. Is this the amount of practice that you have the amount of work that you put when you actually like like if you're somebody who feels like you ain't made it yet like like my advice to somebody who wants to be a musician is not like make a couple of songs and then just go crazy trying to promote them. It's like no you need to spend years and years where Yo- young music years ears of nothing of strengthening yourself from socializing from a from staying in from not going to the bar all the a lot of the work that I did did to mega where I'm at now is because I didn't go out and have fun with my friends. y'All listen and people don't like to talk about that. It's kind of a harsh reality but the reality is if you make something of yourself. You'RE GONNA have to give up a lot. My pops omission with him. I was like he said he was fucked up for you. He was like he said for one year. I I kept like my pops the street a street. Do I still do my part sixty nine years old street due to the corps he was like I just hustle for a whole. Oh you straight to get myself right. I mean like hustled took a whole year. Just not doing nothing just just get money and then once I did that I was able to do everything I have one but that discipline that's the thing we'll talk about in his hip. Hop coaches disciplined. Mufflers ain't got disciplined. Put a mile record a hit record and don't even want to come talk to you and nobody I radio to promote it like you gotta mix tape while new jumbo. They WanNa talk about would they. I I know that they do that. I've been around do man I gotta do. I'm trying to go smoking. I'm trying to focus this bitch. That's how that's how mentality the is is like. You don't really want it. You're really want I want me listen in Kobe Kobe. Mike is my favorite players ever because and you think Kobe like Mike. Wasn't isn't chasing money. He was chasing greatness. Might Joel was not chasing no fucking bread he had brad. He's just like he wanted to be better than everybody to. The point was obsessive. I'd be like I'm obsessed with. Would I do because I'll be missing shoot with my kids and all that and I feel bad. Sometimes I was talking about kids before I got here and by the time I call them they back home like is going to be late. They might I be sleep but I'd be like guess what when when Tom Coming money I'm focused coal. You know what I mean any hungry so it's like if I gotta take this sacrifice now to it's it to be in a random at certain times gotta do that said I could build something. Sustainable Gerald skew seventeen so what's his perspective on her. What's her perspective effective on you. Make yourself especially over the last year's I league college really in the Ivy League College. Before academic scholarship to fucking can brainiac. We work in my career. I mean she she. I mean she loves it. She think is cool. It'd be funny like every time we'd be out so when people WANNA take pigmeat a laugh I got three. They all laugh and I mean they just be cracking up like that's crazy but I also be having put them make them be aware because everybody's not friendly one day as I was dropping him off the camp summer camp and we in the call and some do he walking by he must notice me so the Marquez getting out the door and he's walking up to the car. I looked look the myself now right now. It's eight o'clock in the morning. I'm not right now not right now but I'm telling my kids. I don't know what the fuck this could be better. Pay The fuck attention. 'cause everybody's not our friend. Um You know what I mean and not and I don't. I don't live life. I'm looking over my shoulder. Now live a life where like I'm beef from will other artists of media personalities of people. I gotTa Watch my back and worry about my kids but you you you never people fucking insane. I mean so they they all good though they love this shit because they all get the stuff that they want. They are happy. They don't want much. They ages want me and did a day. Do you ever is it a challenge to think of something interesting to say on TV every day now 'cause. I don't even think you guys got to put them in a lot of work to come up with concepts and Shit because a lot of times people don't realize this is not something to really talk about enwrap every day so you haven't met. Gambino Gambino and I'd like I walked up to him and I said to him shit now. I just wanted to Tuck my youngest daughter. She seven she loves showers again beano and I just wanted. It's almost like you're. My daughter loves you and all that he was like wait a minute. You're that guy off that show right and I'm like you. I'm like Oh shit. It's like yeah so he was like you said I think he's so ill he said. I think which I do is so ill because he said it like everything like that. He does and he's telling me everything. I'll do. My words like scripted. We write it out Noladaye today. We acted out he's a I can't imagine like having to get up in talk every day about shit. You know what I mean. I in that put a different perspective on like I never thought of it like that but I can talk as a problem with that but it's like we get. We get you know topics tonight. I go over them and I know I know. Academics going to be on this so I just be thinking like I'm I'm just take this perspective on it because I know where he had with it. You know what I mean like we don't we don't even like when we sit in the morning. I'll be like the act which you're GONNA say. I'm GONNA say that we don't do none of that most most of the time I get there. There's going to be sleep. I mean it was just couch. They're not doubt that like this. You know what I'm saying well he he he wake up. That's one thing I know about acting cameras come on that should he turned east good with that really near so we got like we built over the past year. We built that shit the way like we both understand like how we are aw he knows like same thing with me like he knows like how hot think about things and I know how I think about certain things so. It's like even with us like we'd debate but I- debates is not me overbearingly yelling N. just telling him he's an idiot. Everyone all star on them. I said you were bathing in the tears of Chicago dog no youth so fucking because to star. That's what this was going for blood now but I know I love data when he was like he said he said don't he told him don't don't Slough because he called the demon or something like that recipes fatal crazy. I was home and I never got a chance to meet and we always talk shit yeah. I talked to a couple times. I like shows and stuff but I don't know if he was all there ever at one of the Times. He was always like the last couple of years man he was uh-huh. You know what's crazy so when we asked I was talking about him on twitter follow me and we talk and then we gave we exchanged numbers and we used to facetime from time to time and then like I know the last one of the last conversation you had when you had to get a seizure. I text my CEO Bro. I hope you I hope you okay. I mean I think we've I text them. facetime and I was like Bro. You got. It's your son. You know what I mean like. We gotta be can't be playing with that healthy men and then one day. I hit him again. As a how you feeling he's like sobers motherfucker but yeah may he was. I think that you know and like I said man like in Chicago. They go through a lot of trauma. They go through a Lotta. Shit and you know that she starts you. Start Medicating yourself and you go into a whole man. It's it's tough to get out of but you know mark. Dolan says you know his lady in in his child and his family he. I never got a chance to meet face to face but we we had a good report. Each of okay last question. Academics has like his own platform. You guys do the show together as they're part of you. That wants to start your own thing like your own podcast outcasts or you're on video series youtube thing yeah man. I actually like I've been I've been working on a few things man been working on a few things I've been trying to it's crazy because because I was kinda thrust into it and I was part of a show is like I'm on a team. It's not. I don't know what it really is to be. The Star player my own thing. I mean so it's like I've been learning like I learned from academics alert from watching platform. You know I pay attention to like we say cheese. That's no one drinks out like a lot a lot of different people doing i. Just you know I pay attention. I've been writing down a lot ideas but like twenty twenty is going to be good for me man. I'm working shit. I mean I'm working on my own stuff. A lot of people want me to write a book. A lot of people want me to write I mean. They want me to write a book. They want me to do different. Things toppy one of my partners. We work in doing like a master class where we're GONNA go around and do like toil we had the same type of conversations teach like the youth and just people who WanNa learn about business you know the business and give them some. You know well-wishers so it's GonNa be a lot of stuff coming in twenty twenty. I feel like the fans are GonNa really appreciate. It is two hours twenty two and weight gain deep May I really appreciate this. Jammer Arrows funds for real happy. She should team for appreciate anybody doing. Dope Shit for for Culture Megan advanced and Shit you know having those conversations and stuff and a Lotta Times. It goes like the work that you guys do. Sometimes I think it goes underappreciated. When I think about it. I think about how much I like watching Joe Biden Sonoma man him at Akwa on camera every day for like a year. I wasn't watching it every every day for granted. I feel that way when I think about a lot of the good content out. There's like damn. I'm not yeah and I see this man. I'm not competing with nobody body like I feel like so many people is just trying to compete is like everybody wants to start did thing and they want to and I mean we are competing in a sense but I mean like I don't look at Joe. Joe Is like May. I can't watch stated coach because he was on everyday struggling today and I don't look at it like you know you added twenty two when you look like you're listening. I'm a person listen. I love hip hop. I love hip hop coach like the sub things set around it and I'm into what I'm into and I'm a support anybody who builds any any type of content that I meant to and I'm a fuck with it so it was like me. I'm just on A. I'm on a wave in a vibe. I'm just want some shit like man. I'm almost worldly shit man. I'm I'm happy. I'm the happiest I've been in. My life and I didn't even give rich got richer richer been average yet. I'm really have to finally rich album like added. Got The back album cover as lilly there you go home and hey. I appreciate you coming through gets. No you absolutely connect on this level and I think the fans are really going to appreciate it. Man Yeah Man Thank you Ueno. No Jumper coolest podcasts the world's on Youtube sound cloud. I tunes like comment. Subscribe have no dot Com. If you want to support the Jabber cushion stores appreciate y'all ace.
Ep 161: Sucio Boys
"Corning. Don't pick it up. Hello. Hey, how you doing? Who's come out Brown combined. Browse, bro. First of all, you and sell to me. Fucking compare me to that guy. Well, established I'm a celebrity Stanton island, bro. You know it is brought him on. Give me a break. Do you show all the time? But you forget about me Davidson, wow. You meet another fucking Italian guy from fucking island. And you forget all about me. I'm trying to get on the show brow, like told me that they five hundred dollars. If you're going to show. Do you want to be on the show? Like if you pay me, you know what I'm saying? You'll get a couple of bags you know what I'm saying. Right packages being being being, you know what I'm saying. Like that's what I'm trying to do this. That's all. I'm trying to do bro. All by the way, I. I did it song would shame the rugged child. And I'm trying to promote it. Good. Single doesn't sound track for the Showtime thing that you guys that was a great job of playing risen documentary was amazing. Okay. Listen, we have the no more show late night. These Merrill, and we have nothing less ale Seon there. She's a cooled slightly should. She's Puerto Rican. Why would why should you be on there? What do you what would you promote fucking? I saw John tower on the subway one time, he was doing the right thing in Spike Lee direct debt. So it's like six degrees separation. You know what I'm saying? Like I go on the shell boom then Bambang billion. They start to happen. You know what I'm saying, like, I'm blowing up right now, bro? I don't know if you check my Instagram I got three hundred thirty eight followers at three hundred thirty seven last night. You know what I'm saying? I got another one brand blown up, huge social media route come on. Give me. You're going to be wrong. Brow, but I don't wanna do this, please I'm on the phone, but I still suck your dick, put on gotta go just I'll face on the phone. And now sucker. I'm hanging, please brow. Please just need to beg. I'm hanging talked to Tommy. Fuck fucking guy. Pro Merrill, boys gonna fuck and pick up the phone for kids chip row. Maybe. Maybe I could blow mount own fuck shit. I don't even know fucking episode. This is pro. I wouldn't. Fucking web. So one, sixty one stadium addition spec memories, when used to go over there and come from he was actually time it picked up his phone do. The job probably find this guy. Dammit. I will be these American Showtime. You will see me day. That's my dream. My never give up on my dreams. I'm never to New York do the fuck and drop. Let's go fucking guts. Gotcha. We're not Jesus Christ. To the audio art, the most dangerous podcast in the universe live from milk studios. Do good drop. Stadium addition or bookings addition, dependent on how you. If you take that four trading, you like either going to lose your kids go to jail, the Yankees win or maybe should've McDonalds. We're white people next door. Doubles in their poppy going Yankee Stadium because the price at the hard rock, I -rageous outrageous. Talk to the mirrow Pronk site. In the building aside, Bronx, I say to Brown site to fucking get married and courthouse. You know what I'm saying? Same court house, things don't been booked in. You know what I'm saying saying fucking filthy as McDonald's fucking numbers on wall talk about call this. Don't for good time. I didn't even know. They did that in this fucking millennium. They still doing it. They do like Instagram. Hashtag, now, south one, sixty one once I you know, if you from the Bronx, you have memories of that as little tunnel, right there to a game court, you got married, right there. Right. Saying one of those movie theaters, so billionaire. Yup. And slide down the band stuff. You if you've got balls Belene there with my at the time her name was Damani. She was the next to a guy at every time they showed a gun on the screen. He would say what the gun wasn't with the bullet capacity was as she was, like, tell them to shut up, and I was like. That's not might be also you told me to tell a gun expert. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Forty rolled down down from the back. It was that thing on me. So let's get into things. Do you know we came into podcast, people want from us joy? Not that be dick as we're basically Jimmy. I've seen Dr dre we don't need to do this. We do the goodness of our heart was shopping for a house in Calabasas. I was looking, I'm gonna buy, Greenland what? You know what I'm saying stuff in a weed out this shit? I'm gonna turn Greenland just a while we dispensary pal. I'm saying look at the vision. Be one of the pockets is giving you visualize this. Nobody nobody say pay tension ally. Joe? Know what I'm saying had turtle on my man key sweat. God clearly still has a cocaine flow a Harlem hell you fooling us keeps wet for him. He got the I'm the nigga, that's pop the fever outfit on that all time. Oh. He's only Nagorski happy because he was so rich. He's negative make you driving a cab and turn three times. Go your house issues. So you get confused. Keeps way, that's how they used to do it now. You've got these new guys. They got the they got the cracking the. Oh. Out. Problematically. Show. Extracted. Learn that three hundred billion you smoke the crows what I'm saying. What I'm saying. Stop that. Ona. Hold up. What are you stop doing, you know night, 'cause I remember two thousand nine vividly. I was like, bras stop doing like actual like. Apparently everyone did. But crack I was gonna crash. There's a there's a stigma to crack yet. Nego-. Crackhead fuck. Bro fucking random day and they come out and be like, but anyhow, loading up your car. I'm like, no, I don't need help. Hold on. You're not gonna find out. Why live you're saying he's going to scuttle into the projects? I know you tricks, people didn't crack is good. The only thing crack is good for helping you do it front, flips and completely unrelated to that shockers round. The his new album is like forty tracks just doing that out. Naiad tracks. Madge. Right. That's, that's correct. Like forty tracks our dog sweating like the sound edge. It was like Joe. You'll gotta stop. I've got a good long pro to session, and it was. Most of the co pays like oh shit like man. What shit be showed them? Oh, it looks like yo what the fuck. I nNcholas lay come off as I'll predict what is your forty hours long? The fuck is KOMO breezy. Say he, he does have the energy. Crackhead edgy could be good. It could be. It could be. It's W sort sure, it'll kill you or make you stronger. Yeah. Don't seem to be more about like this. This enemy was someone who smokes trap, before they fight people crock Ubon keep on. Oh. Giant lizard appears over the franc's who stopped him crikey, Bon, Chris, you I'm here now. Cranky on his powers. You you into. He could never magic classic cranky bond. Reside in the majesty of data. After they close as origin stories like they close TV crack, you know, where to go. I wondered for them road. And third have just me. He's carrying one crack rock in my goodness. I studied that many crack Joe's to learn the different crack weighs less farms, twin parks. You know what I'm saying Mitchell houses, Millbrook wall? He's meditating over a cracker. Negative cracker letter like a million should be like. V. Greg. Walk. Ripcord. On the Hoover, yo Di Linda do with the fight, once Uber have I am. You. To the villain, fast. Like, as you say. Like. These are the marrow do not help the black or Brown community. They're making the anime based on crack which decimated, the black community in the eighties in the nineties, why they socially irresponsible ever since I got money don't care about the community. More get these guys outta hand terrible. Oh, what? Because what we're gonna flip it on pal or the credit from fucking, the Irish from Edgewater park. Wrong. Oh, wow. Irish people smoking crack on the potato. Imagine like cracking. Leprechauns. Because I went over the next several times. Also, the person that causes to Edward on Bedford avenue. Justice bighorn. You're saying we got real money. Now. Joe find that motherfucker bro. Trois is still in a family farm. He's still wearing that. Hollister Sherwood, Charles v neck with this site. With the toes out. You know, when they walk walking they told us not flat on the flip up. They raised up a little bit rage that shit. You. Fucker. You what are you gonna do? Just stand. Why did you say Nichols? Look at Broadway. Please additioning also why did you crafts it to Kars escape where we right? You. What you go. Ranarriddh. If you're scared. Get a dog. Dog stupid. Gain pride, Jerry. Very aggressive, y'all feel the energy respected, south, y'all know what I'm saying with the Blue Jays today and the Blue Jays have little rainbow. There was a controversy. We have their advertising ads Trinidad or some shit, but it was right next to the rainbow and some people to. If we all got all of all of us. Different countries that are different paints. Okay. So let us live. We don't have the resources in the West Indies that we have. Right now over to be whimsical you like Jamaica Hayes gay people. That was Henry. Now is like all right. Enough is enough to also show as always Jamaica every wants to be a first world power to legalize weed. And they can't do they can't like Saint Thomas and make all their economy off a tourism. But like listen go dogs. White House and we bro. We got Joe get in front of this ship from Chad, bro. Come on, like, I want to go in there and talk to fucking Tyler foot constrains. Okay. This is really good. A good night's sleep. This is it. Very well. So I'm hitting the product is not appropriate for your weed man to be a woman. Oh. Towers was no proper for do cop from woman. Oh, is that problems problematic? I feel like I feel like it's my feelings. Those extend to commercial airline pilots. People music. Yeah. I'm on the operator table. Like, woah, maybe. Who is this broad? Cut me open. Geeze. Leads every month. Going on. Eight voice. Pressure take you. All right. What are we going to do, when the WNBA eventually merged with NBA, she's going to be so wild? Because I do know I can't I don't wanna be don't wanna be, you know, a cash grabbing Griffin. But listen that first of his daughter to WNBA never thought this could takes a selfie were her, and while he tag daddy daughter first game and it was like, oh, maybe we're still touching of in the back wrote. My has. One, one. Baggage it that he gets. It's not like like sir. Why are you smoking a cigar book? I'm rich bitch. That's gonna be wild and it's going to be wilder. Somebody lebrons is Yam Email on fucking like. Fucking we'll short his name, Diana Torahs shoe. Shoe? Oh, yeah. To see my. The court here. No, I mean, but you know what I can say that 'cause I feel I'm prediction. I feel like basketball is going to merge women's basketball way before baseball those. Oh, yeah. Baseball. We will just stop playing their NFL's. We'll just turn shuttle. The lights turn off lights. I will say, though, that the only sport that, that like is almost like it's the same is correctly for soccer. God football is women's soccer immense done. She's like I'll watch football no footie footie, footie, footie fan. They're not really advertising, but the for women's World Cup. I'm too. And then people just about to start favorites. Are they like underdogs or they middle of the pack? How you doing? It's been US for a while now crushing. I feel like because I remember being mass smack to be let y'all Meg rapier. No. I was like I was. I was saying. A case watch I have no idea. How remember it was a long time ago that time the women's soccer one and short he put a shirt? Deals. I believe it was the same year. Not as no way that was ninety. Chastain. Throw that was back in the day that was she's commentary now, though. And I think she wasn't even married to Nomar yet. I watched her standard different this year. Yes. If you go back and watch it the standard definition. I'm just like how could we tell can sketch? Took over jerseys, another jersey, whatever. Why Guana comes different Ambro and she's actually complaining that she has not complaining? It's not a complaint. She believes yes. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Had to get Darfur second. Yeah. From collisions, or the bowl or what does from heading the ball because they do it from age. And also a lot of the older like England team players on the record as saying because they used to play with the while heavy leather soccer Boeing and it's always raining England's that used to soak up water. You can't bash your head against the ball for twenty years. Would you look preach victims? No. Say all of this. Please. Say you need to. Out to the victim saying 'cause it was Victor. We're not the broadcast very true. Let's keep it true. Can I get it right here? There wasn't for cash app. Wouldn't have the podcast ha. Can't have market is so good at this. You know what is that part of the podcast? We gotta do Dixon solo. What mazing thing has the oh, checkers on the cover a high bee's. Oh, yes. Cover hiep's. He's dressing say nigga just bought all the clue like Audrey. I'm dressing, like the wall, credit cards. Cameron shit. He's dressed like he's like yo fuck you Woody, Allen. Give me all your shape. I have I have on a Yankee jersey Brooks. Brothers shirt, and trenchcoat. Yes, I look like I'm about to drop the wildest dead prez acoustic album by God to play a sex. You guys like Khuttan. He's just pulled out the. He pulls out the guitar fit nigga and flying in just in. I'm tired of doing because right now, you know, do the Bronx, matchy matchy, whatever the sure is matches Niekerk simple, who guys, we're forever. Mike, my switched up. Awesome. Campbell shorts. No more like that from now on, I'm dressing, like a pedophile. Speaking out that. I like Alexander Wang swag, all black by peds. The cat hair is, and I can't do the back of it after find just a signature style. And I think maybe I might just do one outfit Bart. Simpson flow rock. Rocco? You remember remember, your joke on these Mero, your Tom Wolfe, joke. Oh, yeah. He's got to keep it. Tom wolfing guys, I see I made a Tom moved joking up for three episodes. You know what I'm saying? Vero. I clearly see camera, I will never be on video with this guy. You woke up America. We have with Montenegro. Best off election fucker with us. This is like a long documentary. This is gonna pull the plug. It blue. View joe. It's none of this real thirty for thirty like what would you do? If you had to show late night in it all came crashing down. We played all the numbers. Victims office faces Nevins. Like. Wow. This. Girly? Jassem issue, boys. Boys. What is he made it that way like we say early on? It's just Hollywood this. A new cool me magin. The problem went to college. Imagine if the woulda went to Cal, as Faca interject and say four. What are they gonna dump saying exactly what it was telling us when we was there? They will let yo you to go to college. I and learn the game I was like you know what we fucking superstars Generoso. Narrators royse married voice. Who was the person in a conference room that advocated for the brand and look crazy, who was the person that stood up with chess who's over the one yelling at niggers congregate? But I don't the foot we bring. Yeah. I know it. Right. Okay. Our show. I said where the fuck are so. Like I was crazy. Okay. My head. I was like, if I do this everyone is gonna jump up behind me have my back. Did they? We spend all day together just give me a heads up. Eleven thousand dollars that year shaky. Silence. To get it that lane this Louis. No silence. Silence of you book a network exact. Because I already for show yard for showed. It was like. I was I'm a. Play both sides of the fence here. But man is correct the natural Tyler was there was evident it was it was it was using out of but also side. Poverty life. Bro cold. Erica bodu. I have artist. Saying, so you know, I'm serious. Develop an that meeting, by the way, that's created that. Remember where they cut the, Chris Tucker was talk. Listen, I am. I. No me. I'm passing. Because I remember we I remember my mother was in the living room and it was the meeting, our first meal MTV to have a shirt and I said, I was like, oh, we haven't Meteo MTV too, and she was like. You're gonna wear that. It worked out. I've Yoda a lot of people about my level of talent over the course of my life. I know what we take cores saying. Angle is people. Shop. The Dan Le petard not to drop name Lee said that we exude confidence doesn't people do not true. Because we survived the Bronx. What else? What else this you say, we, we, we, we do. We are the John McCain's rox. I mean, let's see except we live the aims you'd be like. Oh, wow. Meghan, McCain that. I thought it was bad. Work. This. Out to doubt, the top me who CDs. Meryl getting dragged around the habitat by your griller and you tell me you concerned about the welfare to guerrilla. What is wrong with you people why these data poise the plane taste supernova little go compete? How dare you? How gutless smoke? Maryland been working on a new single. We will reworking a classic news. Don't h? Eight ball make cook. I got the Glock, I am crook. The through to the chappie. Gary beach. Shirts off. Victor got no shoes, gassing fucking coke on the floor. We've been humble, but me lack dumble. That bundle on taking. Due due to, to trapping normal, every beach abbey. The obstacle man, we were not in like it. Get on me, but you know what it is? You know, I saw seen as they walk in, and they're like, oh, we're here to save the day. And if we came in if I came in writing on your back and I was like it was awesome. It was shaky. Good good. You'll free wobbles, say symbol shake shake say. Pussy poor the mic you'll ride on. Free rowdy. It is. Gang shits. Recipes, jaw say we ride, and you know what? I mean you figure the burn up stage, she'd nigger right out your mind. If you are smoke on his grow fuck, Getty sailors, draft do rat by what I'm saying just beat the shit out of the. Over the. Symbol you want on every jumping this end. Yeah, he's like, yeah, thanks for not eating me, appreciate a gang now saying you aging, let's do Lion King, but it's a pit bull. His hold him on top before. These with symbol. Cool. Entity holding Anthony. Y'all got just pit bull for sale, brow, blue nose pin bro- pure bred, brow, you come on browsed. Beautiful dog look at it can walk. I'm gonna put it down. She told us. Felix symbol Felix wondered van Cortlandt park after being banished from each tree. Point because it's still doing animal sacrifices out there, of course, saying, hang to my Irish homegirl Maeve who lived in. Fable carry. You bet. I guess it worse. She was like one of the top river dancers in the country. Oh shit. She was not this, she was well, so I went to her birthday party in woodland Irish, then we went to van Cortlandt park but because I was trying to do the flex. I wrote my BMX biker up there, and I caught a flat and catching a flat on your bike, as a kid is deficit because now you gotta carry this fucking fifty thousand pound objects kid, a bike feels like it's a thousand pounds, especially the BMX lake tricky. Join 'cause I had the Dino you know what I'm saying. Why those shot the more keys who stole it from a kid in scarsdale? So we go and like, I'm all set because I had the flat tire shit, we go to her house, and she's like, oh, my party in the park, go to the park, and home was like, y'all don't go by the cycle ward. And I was like. The what the what cycle ward in the middle of the park is sometimes patients come out. I don't know if this is true or not. Jay Kula park whatsoever. It's so big. You know, and also about Vincent because on, like east is on west to forty second street. I live on each to thirty thirty. Now I'm not a math major Yuga, but I know to forty second to learn his. Just got a call. Golf course. Next thing I know I'm in Connecticut, bra like zoo. Dating Wallabies fee will hurt and it was I. You know, for heaven. Okay. In a two two west phones, and it gets nine all the way down. Okay, player kitchen one. Okay. The robber Moore's Robert Moses for fucking up. The Bronx maybe low key foot to the Bronx econo- made not unjustifiable but in excess. Well, here's a problem every time, people say the bras unjustifiable I look at the house from my house. They have two million dollar lofts. It's called Riverview, 'cause you can see that little dirty river between the Bronx and broke Harlem and houses departments of pre trash, but I mean the jets Vacation's coming the thing. The thing you can't stop gentrification. It just comes. It's, it's this happens is that just got survive. Drought. If you're a drug dealer, but I feel like Krugman from wrong also, if you have any formation on the subject, also you also you. The South Bronx is getting pushed north. You fill me so like, well, see here's the problem in order for that to be true. That would mean that people in the north we're leaving people want to leaving the north. They're comfortable means people are not going to north, they're going to, like, Allentown. They're going to, like, the, the Poconos and shit like that. Don't get pushed out, because worlds, can you afford it, and you can get like a house in, like fucking the Poconos for two hundred? Through like as got Nick is like upstate is being you'll proce exactly get while heroin Allentown. Okay. Once that let's say everybody used to work at that fucking JC Penney years or Macy's. They move in ask three eighths of able to happen in the highest bro. That's fucking reading Pennsylvania's and his mitigating is up there. Yup. I pay. I'm like fuck. Maker voluntary. Don't find the factory outlets. You're gonna find some dope. I say this as a person that used to go to reading Pennsylvania, because why they have timberland this, right? All right. I used to do trips to bring it back. Bustard. Jacob always Bush trips. Got sex bookie. Entertainment party bushes. He lounge. DJ Hassan in Friday night. No Saturday night for the big girls laundry. Nardi. What's up, you know what I'm saying? Shoot. What's up on name Sinisa our the DMV you'll kid grandkid? Mommy has a life yoyo. You know what I'm saying? Yoda's kill a black. You know what I'm saying for one six seven? Monday on saying, big black. Monday to might remind you know what I'm saying. Word of peace love love saying about you. Well what the outcome in school ups quote, kill the interface. You know what I'm saying? Positive yoga selling merchandise. You know what I'm saying with the killer nigga, logo Gunstone bus all your very. No nobody no say we keep we listening. I stay ready. So I ain't got to get ready. That's right. I'm saying you'll see peace. John say a word up, yo peace. Ms johnson. We laugh for Bentley's, one man sex book, holy dare you know what I'm saying? It's God right there. You know what I'm saying? The same Joe book in the Bill, you know, Deka has signed on the one the two we have a good topic to the video right now right now we got Ray, j just won't whiz. Bentleys. Just talking about that pitch. And he was just like. I think we need. They don't have washed parties. No more. What was the last? I mean they already do you know what it is the last wash party that I saw, but didn't attend was when we did the cruise joint, and they had all white party. And it was all white linen. All DNV workers, we gotta do some shit. We have. A big party for the coach is working on it say. Say. Play for like yakking to enjoy that middle ground as we live the experience for fans of. So you say we got we got some things, we'll I kinda but like less. You know what I'm saying? Like we're gonna do Sunday service. It's going to be Saturday like four I'm not getting them while shoot. And everyone's going to be wearing the same outfit. On a Nike jersey, someone got Nick jersey. Got peralta. Sure. Say song. I like about. We all say is as well. Fucking participate got map people. On a hill east. You are like, oh. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Laser for Ray, j white. Hey, y'all is right. J saying king are saying nobody else say. Say guess what? Say benediction. Yeah. What y'all listen? But before I will I'll be glad to appleaday. But before I do that I would like to introduce you to my scooter buying. No, no, no. What I'm saying. Like, hey, right now, give me one second. Also, have we got the bunny is, you know what I'm saying classes? Michael flip Mike off. You could flip cut. Me get him out of his security. Scaredy. No. I do this going to happen. So I have a backup. I have mims Mems is here. This is why he's hot. Hey. While. This is why I'm sorry. I'm in. If you realize hotel room, I don't know how to work Dermot staff. Hi. Because I'm I'm hackers watch good day. New York, walk outside with a jacket, and I'm high because I had a pathetic sex penises very ha. No. What I'm saying out here. Shop. Shout. I was at the Barbary are crazy. I the while the to come out of that weird, sidebar tangent was members remember Sicario. Yeah. Everybody says I'm Jay Z. Yes, he had beef with hymns because he was just like, you know, you're not really high hi-his get the fuck outta here because, you know, here's a line, like I watch the money in the Bank. And he's trying to claim watch. I'm out here making moved. Because as someone not from Washington heights, I did not give shit. I was gonna go. I was just like what man like you, Canadian. I'm sorry. DJ fact tech, I'll be researching these things. Research, the slapper not his last name is actually mims. That's not made up. Okay. But it saying he's an American rapper from New York City. Wow. Wow. This is we compete early life origin, Washington heights. Wabe bigger, this also the thing went into it's you're making America family. What? Heights that us hybrid. But here's the question. When did we become authority that? That's another thing, and that was those things that we trust in our life, our TMZ competing. Wow. When did that happen, no one's dead until TMZ says they're dead at wherever we compete says about you as a fat and, and. And you explain to me something because I caught the tail end of this could cause or maybe the TI for TMZ. What is that about because his sister died, but she like, oh, deed on coq au instead of just being like, oh TI sister pass TMZ was like this Mitchell's. Do coke Russia all shit. So TI was like, why did you why she was like every now and then she'd be on the show. But she was on the show. So I go he saying, you know, saying, so it's like you know if you find out like, if I die from, like, audio, it's fixation like these died. Like, oh, this it was in a course at with, like fucking leggings on. He had a built round his nationally already. Got it on. I'm like. I have some. Jarring news. One share with. Ten pm. Almost dead. It was. Crossdressing. He was you, stop those vicious live. He had filled. The lives he had fifty. He was a good Christian man. He wrote his mirror before he died. I have a white man's war. No, that is a lie. That was all planted by by by AA from HBO try to sabotage us that was John Oliver staff. That did that had nothing to do with us. He had a choke a ball, gag on that. He did that, that was a sleep apnea machine, you know, his pay he had a Showtime marrow promotional anal. Plug in his. That, that was because he had a very severe traumatic experience riding on a horse. Where we did the little house. Exiting this clip. Right. 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Just want to cry. What you just want to cloud when I do time when I. Hip hop retrospective. Forty people on your production staff died making this shit. Oh fuck. Fuck it worked at. We're going to call it. The kings of Ron right? Right, here, Nick is gonna smoke right by green. Boots. I forgot. Your body couldn't be me sorry scene even. Bless you. Every shoot them. They don't have both Muros on side. Dahbi boots agreeable. We gotta go five who died on my Everest. And because unites with dick, take the wall tack on ever. This is kgo their tag. A Buddha boys. Viral marketing my dick. How a how, how would that be in the graffiti world? If you tag on Everest God, I'll do what you be. Would you be the would you be the ultimate graffiti is probably probably this? And there's a lot of there's a lot of four four fathers to she. But my I is my with let's start small this tag on wave hill. Riverdale all let's get it. Let's get I wrote down on a class trip while nauseous. To wave one day because it was raining OD, and we're going back to school and scoop was stopped. And Chris Hayes is hot dog fueling, I live right here by can you think? Also because I was a kid. I heard overdose. I assume he lived in Venice mad rivers. Chris as. Boots. I wanna know chef boyardee backstory. Let's go was the poverty because he, he clearly raised to the top his ranks tagging, chef who was his rival, and I wanna see him like cook office for Julius wool eight, what were you going boy, RD? I'm going to make mitt knows pollen in. Listen to this innovation. I put it in a can now and get out of here are d-. No, no. Listen. To me, it's going to be no. No one ever put spaghetti O's and a candy thing. Talking guy, you study forever. No, no fuck you fuck, you know, fly for you. You know. Fucking guy. I'm going to take this anymore. I'm going to go to America. You know what, I'll see you it sixteen o'clock because we're using world time your ass mind, bro. Kill spill. Let me check my son dial. Okay. In five hours, I will do that. Well, you don't want to get out of here, and go to America, give everybody that I beat this fuck you out of our need this, I'm gonna throw away, Mike model Gondolo month two. The big pizza. Guy right there and Perello towards is all we know about strip data's and shots. John Gotti, junior, my four month lawyer, you know what we know. So, you know, that's it. That's it. And if you don't know much, but we know we're loud Diego. Yeah. There we go. That's one of my ex's mother said he doesn't know a lot but he's loud. Yeah. Wow. How you feel Maryland money. Goal that I know you watch that show top show, sick tight daughter, still America. Anyway. Yeah. You got it live United Nations. Gotta get that modern warfare. Get that out there, people who trae are or sledgehammer whoever's making a new modern warfare. Forget about. I sound like you ask actually that we try to fight car as bodyguard we were fucking wall in. Not a game. Risk. What could we are Suseya boys? We do. We know who's gain. We don't care. We'll turn kind of inside. I. First thing right? Just turn issue. Princeton. I'm gonna pee in. You'll see. Mites. She oh, the VCR that's destructive. The VCR in two thousand eighteen going through things. You might might you definitely got a stack fucking venture. They want to Jada Pinkett Smith was saying she was addicted to porn, but at the time, she says she was the like that was like VHS shit. And you gotta be the wash combat cassettes in to all too. Two shoes like pre dating Terry. Crews. We what? Which she she's married. We'll. Lone light predating meaning like before Terry crews came out and said that he was. Oh, no. She said, now she's just okay. Red tape mess. That's messy a fuck your Chelsea. You forget, an EMMY nam off of a digital only talk show. Yeah. Let's see. Also. Okay. This time for some Hollywood talk, Hollywood, boys. Hollywood. It is June seven. Emmy voting starting how guys. So are you about the first bronc show nominated for EMMY late night greatness, are you gonna lose your fucking mind? If we are nominated gonna leave your fucking mind for not nominated you saying, how's the rule fielding? Are you going to feel the victim? You feel in. I'm cautiously optimistic. Okay. Okay. I'm feeling like I'm go up there we go up to Pelly levies. Fucking dunk on Ryan guy feel in Steph curry coming out the tunnel before the game saying, cocky unnecessary shot. He teams say shimmy. Yeah, the, the, the full court three Victoria, you got this. You don't even know about. Guy. She's we got this because on, we got this. Yeah. Won the EMMY nominations come out all the all if we don't have we don't win burn, everything down burn America down. Also, if you are an EMMY voter for us, and you're racist true. True facts. If you vote for any show, where you're racist, while the show, Trump show vigneault. I love you. But you know what I'm saying? You know, kosher res she'll tell you this Luther. Lower case. We got. That we such a great moment for the wrongs. Low key? I deduct care about like being on, like big chat like CNN. No, I just want Bronx net. I want used Bronx twelve to be like the Bodega boys did it, I won't fuck and just. News. Twelve. Really? Awesome to be like, yes. Big the pudding. We when we come into the news box twelve actual EMMY with the actual yoga, as we go get some Emmys, link up Emmys, linka, also shot. The new the newest beer garden, import more OSHA Ricksen hops. Which listen, we've got a bear garden in the Bronx, bricks and hops, hops. And they didn't. They didn't do some wild ship. Hip hop. A little misleading there's like bricks and hops. You know what I'm saying? It's not very. We'd be we'd be in the bag. Balls talk. Also, and listen this I'm showing my age here, Jake whole did averse where he was just like verse by me costs, brick or some shit like that. And breaking down how much that would mean relief and everyone on Twitter was like twenty one k and I was like twenty one k rows will what happened. That to me. And I'm like, what, what? No bricks or not twenty one to twenty one turns the Mario me, like click it, this thing twenty one what's Twenty-one maybe. Twenty one was maybe nine ninety two fem mighty four. If you would've told my dad twenty one in nineteen eighty two he would have been like if us get it, Gregory Hines all over his shit. If a brick was twenty one thousand would be no podcast right now, there would not on God on everything. Brooke Amy and mirror will be in jail if we killed the connect everything, bro Taylor. The cheapest one point thirty eight. Absolute cheapest wrote that was a good deal and you walk that line thirty eight thirty. And I'm fucking I'm Dominican and go up there and hit hit me over the for forty. And we're not bullshit. We talked about it. We're taxed on, you know, real do real things homie. 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Jordan Morris on Point Break
"This is the zodiac speaking. I am the motor the taxi driver over by Washington street and maple street last night to prove this. Here's a bloodstained piece of his shirt, the thing that makes it interesting is this guy was the ethical. He could be anybody. He could be your goal. He could be guy living next door. Whatever I think we're fifty years. It's time to solve the case. The entire season of monster. Zodiac killer is available now. Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. Welcome to movie crush Friday interview dish in Charles w Chuck Bryant here doing the intro tro in our home studio city market, but this one was recorded at our Hollywood studios in Hollywood, California. Everyone had Jordan Morris on to talk about point break. Jordan is an old pal that I met through max fun. Con our friends Jesse thorn mutual friend that Jordan has known since college. They actually started out in college together doing comedy, you get to hear this backstory to which is really fun doing college radio together, and they are still working together on Jordan, Jesse go the great podcast on the maximum network. Jordan is also the creator and head writer and show runner for bubble. The wonderful comedy fi. Kind of Bonzo fine scripted podcast that came out last year, hopefully bubble to will be coming out sometime soon. Really, really good stuff. Check it out if you haven't. But Jordan's a great guy, and it was a lot of fun sitting down and talking point break with him such a fun fun movie. So without any delay everyone. Here is Jordan Morris on point break. Where do you live right now? What's hollywood? Yeah. Not a hard drive it all and it's good a stay. When I come here at this place like right around the corner. So it's really cool. Cool. That's. That's dumb glitzy hotel. But it's like five hundred feet away. Nothing wrong with that. Let's again, that's awesome. Gotten to know the Hollywood Boulevard. Well. Are you guessing on anybody show while you're here now? Cool now, I didn't put the word out. Yeah. But still to do JJ go at some. Yeah. Next time. You're you're in town while definitely becoming back in June for max fun. Oh, cool. Yeah. Let's definitely do it. And I usually come out Thursday when you guys record weezer record Sunday. But I think we could we could make an exemption. Be our guest at max, fun con. If we do the tape live. Oh, goodness. Anyway. Well, hey, we'll let's park that to decide of course. No, no needs to get our calendar's out. Now want you to write checks that? That's true. Jesse doesn't wanna cash it's funny man, all these eighties movies this week. It's weird. Interesting. Well, technically point break his nineties ninety one. Yeah. Where are you from originally, Orange County? Oh, semi local. Yeah. I mean as born in Beaumont, Texas, but we we moved to Orange County California when I was like three consider that to be where I was born and raised. So you're you don't relate to Texans. Not really I mean, we went out there for like our family vacation on the stuff in my like, my mom's sisters still live out there. My sisters my cousins live out there. So I like have fondness for Texas, and certainly, you know, love excuse to go to Austin for. Work because it is the world's funnest place. It is fun. But yeah, no, I consider myself a chill. So Cal local agilis. And then the OC local hanging ten do. Do you know the OC way baby? You don't do weirdly religious? You might as well be one of the ex-president's. Yeah. Do you have siblings and stuff? I have a little sister. Who is now thirty thirty year old little weird to call a thirty year old your little sister, thirty six. Oh, yeah. So yes, she is. She's a lawyer. So we are the kind of archetypal sensible one in creative one, right? Her being the sensible one being the creative one. So. Yeah, she's she's a hoot. She's a hoot and anytime I need to legal advice. He's always there. Yeah. That's always nice. Yeah. She back in Texas or not is an Orange County. She lived up here for a little bit. But moved back there to work for the county. So gotcha. Yeah. That's cool. How what was it? Like growing up in your household. Always like to get a read on shirt. Because I had not super unique. But I had parents that weren't that super into movies and right, pop culture. And it's not like they shut it. But I didn't definitely didn't have the parents like oh God. You gotta watch this or you should listen to this. Yeah. I did not have that either. My my parents were not that you know, they they're not hip people, right? You know, we, you know, saw movies at the mall and watched a lot of network TV. You know, didn't you know, didn't have HBO to be growing up? That was the Mark of a family who was really cultured if they had HBO we even that HBO. Oh nice. Okay. So you know, we. Yeah. Might my my mother's very nice woman. She's a she's a nurse. She's been a nurse for entire life. Oh, that's great denier entire life. But you know, you're adult when she was wasn't a baby nurse. Which would be pretty cute. That's a premise. Yeah. It's a it's a companion piece to boss, babe. More working class, boss baby Lil nurse. Yes. So she. She does not understand entertainment stuff has a hard time. Wrapping her head around it, but has always been very supportive. Like, I, you know, I have I I have a fucking boring ass childhood. Where my mom was nice. And wanted me to do what I wanted to do. I know it's fucking sucks. I wanna come in I want. I want to come on these and talk about how I came home with green hair and then had to sleep in the tree house and smash megastar against the wall. But no, they were always really nice, even when I wanted to do kind of dorky staff, you know, when I wanted to wear Cape to high school for a couple of weeks and carry all my books in a bowling bag and do all that dumb. Did you do? Yeah. I was I was I was a quintessential drama dork. Like, so I discovered you know, again, what a fucking boring aspects story. I have so basic this boring. Yeah. Standard for these kinds of things. I think well, I mean, it makes you stand out a bit in the world of comedians because you're you're not tortured. That's true. Yeah. Most not most. But but yeah, no. I definitely I mean, I have my ups and downs. Of course, I struggle with various things. But yeah, I definitely don't consider myself. A sad clown. Right. You know, I'm a I'm a content clown who certainly has moments of darkness and self doubt rice. But essentially is is pretty happy to be where he's at. Yeah. You're doing drama and high school I'm doing drama in highschool. See I discovered drama, and we had a little improv group, which was huge for me, which was like mind blowing. Yeah. Because I think I was always kind of, you know, a goof off type, so I think the idea of being able to like goof off while people watched you was great. Yeah. We didn't have anything like that in our school. Oh, yeah. Not improv. I didn't even know. That was the thing. Did you? What's there a drama club in in school plays and stuff like that? Yeah. But I wasn't. I mean, I've never been a performer. Which is funny now that you know, can get on stage right for for ton of people. Yeah. But I've gotten used to that. But I'm still don't consider myself an performer like an actor. I'm terrible at that. Interesting. But it seems it seems like, you know, drama club, you know, draws in the like look at me kids, which I was one of. But I think it also draws in general kind of I'm artsy. And haven't found my people yet. I think you know. Yeah. I think like, you know, drama club. The tech crew is filled with punk kids. Yeah. The like orchestras filled with like band, Keith. I don't know it seems to be this kind of like nerd unifier. At least it wasn't my high school. So you have the kind of like look at me. I know what rent is right heads. Yeah. But then, you know, the productions kind of poll in all these other kind of. Nino not jock types right anyway. Other types of John Hughes archetype, yes. Yeah. Exactly. Other other breakfast club members all kind of band together where you popular. I mean. Well, here's that that's complicated. So I was I was homecoming king oh elected homecoming king, and I found out later like after I graduated college. I found out on my space. I got in touch with this kid. Then Justin Reynolds, he was the punk kid who hang hung the lights. Right. So, you know, he always had like a leather jacket and a vice squad but flap, right? So Justin Reynolds was the like crew kid, and I friend him on my space, and that would you call back then for ended. Yes. What did you call it? I don't know. I don't I don't think. L interest to my space. So anyway, he sent me a message on the my space after I had fronted him. Saying that. Hey, remember, when you want homecoming, can I was I was working in the office, and I rigged the ballots would win. So I am a false false homecoming king of Capela valley. Wow. I thought I thought you were going to say I just had a pit in my stomach. I thought you were going to say that it was like Keri got carried that it was just a joke. So no, I mean, I got again again boring backstory. I, you know, Orange County is a pretty conservative place up until very very recently up until this election. I think it always goes red. It's swing. It's like the one little pocket of California. That was read until very recently, which is nice good on good Anya, Orange County. So, you know, so yes, it was pretty conservative. You know, there is a like Jok culture for a lot of surfer guys turned water polo guys. Like, those were kind of our jocks. Okay. We're kind of a bleached blond, you know, maybe much like some of the characters in today's movie point break. So that culture is very prevalent in Orange County. But I was able to go to high school sometimes in a Cape sometimes for hearing my books in a bowling bag, and I didn't get hassled too much. I had a little bit of teasing. But I kind of got to just be a little weirdo and experiment, and I'm really grateful for that. You know, you hear stories from other creative people about how it was like a struggle and people didn't want them to do that. And everybody wanted them to straighten up and put on a tie and and stuff like that. But yeah, I kind of I I was very very lucky to grow up, you know, being able to like. Experiment and be a goofball and find myself, so yeah, I I'm really really thankful that that was my upgrade upbringing for. Sure. Well, I mean, you're funny. And that's always a secret weapon. I think. Yeah. So even if you are at risk of being bullied, if you're that helps I think. Yeah. And I think I can I think I can code switch between nerd in bro. Maybe not nerd and jock. But nerd and bro. Which is the bridge. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I think I can you know because. Yeah, I think I can I think I kind of learned how to like talk to that sort of person and not come off like a artsy Guber. And then what time away from them? I can turn back into an artsy. Guber? I haven't heard Guber. No while. Yeah. Bring that back. Sure. I know. Hey, I'm proud. I'm proud Guber. Hey, if you're out there, and you're proud Guber hit me up hashtag kube squad. Goup troop. When did you like where you legit acting and stuff in the plays? And yeah, I think that's not necessarily because I was a good actor, but just because because I think the drama club needed boys. I think that's the curse of many high school drama departments as they just need boys. So yes, I think I I got up on stage pretty regularly not not because of because I'm I'm super talented at performing. But because I was just enthusiastic and wanted to be there and up and was a boy. So what about the the improv is that was that through the school? Like, it was a we did a thing called comedy sports with z. And it I think comedy sports with Z is still active in LA. I think they still have a performance space. I'm not positive, but they take they have teachers people who are part of their troop goes you high schools and kind of teach them rudimentary improv game stuff you'd see on whose line is in any way. A lot of like, you know. All right. Like, we're going to give you a weird hat, and you guys have to make up a scene right stuff. Like that. And so yes, a we these these people from comedy sports would come come to the high school and teach us these games and help us put on these little shows, and we were very thrilled because our coach was had played a helicopter pilot on. That's my Bush the comedy central show about George W Bush. Remember that it was the south park. Guys. Did it and it was like in the? Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so he was on the Joe though. Yes, he was nice. Ice. And yes, so know like it was my first time meeting a professional creative person. I did not grow up around. I think a lot of people think that, you know, Orange County is close to allay. So you probably knew a lot of show business people. Like, I did not like, I do the only grownups. I knew were like real estate people and jet ski salesman that is who lives in Orange County. So like meeting creative person a professional creative person pretty big deal. Yeah. And then and then because we met the comedy sports guy. We would like pile in my mom's van and drive up to LA to see improv shows. Wow. So yeah. That was kind of like, my my childhood adventures were like piling advantage going to see improv shows and punk shows. That was kind of like, my first little glimpse it. Yeah. The grownup world that's cool though. That's great access. Yeah. It's really nice really nice to have this stuff around. If I didn't have a lot of that going on around me and Atlanta. That's where you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you know, the suburbs of Atlanta. It was just ahead. No idea that you could do this as a job. Yeah. Yeah. Not podcasting. Obviously that was sure. Yeah. Out of thing and just deliver a glimmer in the eye of. Yeah. Look on valley. I didn't know I didn't know you could do that. I don't know. I never thought about movies in that way. Like the job. You can do. Right. I always thought. I would be a fun drama teacher. Right. Which is still still time for that could could very well still happen. No shame in that. Either. Course not. Yeah. No, absolutely. I if you're a fun drama teacher out there. Good on. Yeah. Giving giving the artsy Googlers of the world like express themselves. No. That is a very important very important noble job for sure. Yeah. We'll both my parents were teachers. So I know that a bit. Oh, that's right. Your dad was like your English teacher. Right. My principle your principle mad. That's cool. Yeah. It was fine. Yeah. Elementary school that is high school prior would have been little tougher. I think now, I don't know. I don't know the geography of Georgia that well. But I mean, you know, I think Athens has that like legendary music scene. Did you pile on a station wagon? Go see bands in Athens, or was that not possible? No, I did not Athens is an hour away went to school there. Yeah. So when I was eighteen I didn't you Hollidge like rent videos to Michael Stipe or something? Yeah. He came by the video store cool feather in your cap. Yeah. I mean college was really where I blossomed into like a complete normal human, especially in Athens, plenty of opportunity, but I didn't. I mean, I was going to concerts and stuff from the time. I was like thirteen. Yeah. But it was you know, the big shows that the big arena. Yeah. I was not nearly cool enough to know about like the Kula shit. I was listening to the cure and the Smiths and REM and stuff. Okay. I was pretty cool. But yeah, not not on the punk scene. Those not privy to that though that was kind of like on the radio at that point. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But this is about you. This is true. This is about me. I'm yeah. I'm naturally inquisitive. I'm sorry. When did you start like? Well, tell me about meeting Jesse in college. Yeah. Pretty big deal. So yeah. So I mean, I think based you know, so I kind of like had started thinking about. Oh, okay. Like, yeah. I like TV, and I like comedy, and that has to get there somehow, maybe people right it, where do they, you know? So I, but it was still kind of baffling to me. I went to college at UC Santa Cruz, northern California. What's it like there Jesse jokes about it so much, but yeah, the truth is it is a it is a it is a hilarious ridiculous beautiful place, really really really special kind of magical place. It is you know, it is very very hippy dippy. It is pretty pretty stuck in the nineties. I went back a couple years ago. And you know, people are still wearing flannel shirts tied around their way. We're still like posters for bands on telephone poles. Yeah. Little bit. Maybe a little less sublime. I'm in a little more. Let's let me. Yeah. I mean, I think supplies not quite right. But I mean, I'm very sensitive to California musical geography. Yeah. That was more San Diego. I guess I mean, it's like sublime famously from Long Beach. But I think definitely probably their core fan base was in San Diego. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, Whitestone owners, white dreadlocks. Sure a lot of white dreadlocks at UC Santa Cruz. But I think they probably listen to actual rake and really let you know about it really let you know that their shit was the real shit was really I Ray. Yeah. It is. It's a little hippie paradise. It's a little, you know, there's a little Berkeley spice in there. There's a little like Venice beach, you know, peppered in and it's of just this little enclave. It is very very, you know, radically liberal. How big is it? It is boy, I don't know. I think I think it is definitely one of those places where the biggest part of the town is the university. So I think that like university students are pretty big portion of the population. Right. So yeah. But then you had, you know, the locals were a lot of like surf burnouts and people who sold candles. And you know, stuff like that. Although I have maybe heard that some of Silicon Valley has started to down there creeping in. Yeah. How far is that from San Francisco? It's an hour and some chain. Okay. Yeah. I guess that's the people will drive that. Yeah. Sure. I think. Yeah. And I think maybe, you know, you are you are a little bit of a a crunchier granola one of those ten guys you probably like the, you know, the. Salt air access to surfing and stuff like that. Yeah. So yeah, it was it was great. I mean, I it's a silly place. It you know, it definitely is its own little reality. And definitely, you know. It did not. They did not provide any kind of resources to have a career in show business. I think I went into the career counseling person when I was about to graduate and asked about any like, internships or entry level PA type jobs and show biz. And I think they had one one listing for an assistant camera operator for a local news station in San Jose. Right. So, you know, and I think I think, you know, the like performance in writing programs were preparing you to be like an agitprop street clown. I think that's probably the like the the the highest calling of the UC Santa Cruz performance graduates. Can you can you create some sort of challenging street art right to freak out squares. Right. Like, you're going to need a trunk that you can fit a lot of props and can also carry it under your arm. Yes. Exactly. You're running down the street. Right. Exactly. When the cops are chasing you away for fuck. Speak in the curious and freaking. The anyway. So so Jesse thorn owner and and head head haunch over at maximum fund. So we met he was my RA before south and the porter porter dorms. So. Yeah. So I thought he was a cool, dude. Because he you know, he was a comedy nerd kids in the hall. Poster depot Stor. Yeah. Kind of some of that, you know, fringy comedy stuff that you always felt like someone was a kindred spirit if they liked remember that I remember that dorm thing where the posters were such a. Such a signifier. Holy like a lot of thought went into what you put on your wall. Really like set a lot about you. Or what you? Yeah. It was like the person you wanted to be kind of. Yeah. At least if you feel like I did which was like, maybe a little nervous in your own skin. Totally. I wasn't like, yeah. I'm gonna put this poster up 'cause it's just fucking what? Like like. Oh. Well, if I put this Jane's addiction poster, right? Do love them. But boy, that's cool. Yeah. Exactly. I'm gonna I'm going to pick the things I like, very the ones. I would the ones I display, right? Exactly. Yeah. Maybe keep some of the other stuff, quiet. Yes. So we met and he was on. He was on the like UC Santa Cruz, improv group called humor force five. A bad embarrassing improv team name if there ever was pretty bad. I know. I know that's always a fun thing to do when you're meeting another. You know, comedy person them the name of their embarrassing college group, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were far patrol. Okay. Yeah. Sure. We were satellite of love. Yeah. Okay. I know. Right. So yes. So so, you know, he so we so I started doing the improv group over there Moore's five, and then Jesse also was a DJ on the college radio station, Casey SEA, eight point one FM heavyweight eighty eight and he yes, he he had me come in and do little bits on his college radio show. And then I started co hosting it with him and. Yeah. And that was kind of the you know, that was kind of the the Z zenith. Genesis what word about looking start the beginning. The xenon xenon. Yeah. Boy that sounds like a rush album zinn adjust. And and so we so. Yeah. And it was kind of the start of our podcast. So we did that college radio show together. What was the name of it was called the sound of Young America? Okay. Which became his NPR show. Right change the name of two bulls. Pit bulls. I used to love that name names. Like, man. So I'm gonna be on America's so good. I know I think it was. I think it was like. It was some record label slogan that might have sued him. Oh, really? Yeah. I think it was like the that make sense dapper tone slogan at one okay, anyway, so we see when he moved to LA. So after college I moved to L A and started doing jobs, he moved here shortly after and then we he's just like do you wanna start doing our old college radio show, but on the internet, whereas called a podcast? Yeah. So we're still doing it today. Yeah. How many years now think twelve years? Yeah. Because you guys got it in about a year before. I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think you know, us and knew Jimmy Pardo. And some of those early Ricky Gervais podcasts. Yeah. Of the. And of course, the Mark merit. I was a little bit later a little later. Didn't like Jesse set him up. I think so. Yeah, I think there's that's part of it. Yes. He kind of helped him get his gear together. So. Yeah. Definitely like, you know, we we we were here before you kids. I know when you're cereals near makings murderers. Well, it's funny to lessen Netflix show. I'm sorry. But you like murder on podcast you guys like murder. Yes. Anyway when. When serial hit it big and all the articles started flooding in New York timeshare New Yorker about, you know, the this new thing, and I know a lot of us had sort of half smirk about it. All yeah. Yeah. But also like I was smart enough to know like this is great totally Lutely enroll my is a little bit. But I love cereal. Yeah. Total cereal cereal is great. Yeah. I mean it. Yeah. It was a little silly. How it's like there's this new thing called a podcast. Yeah. And it's also a serial, right? Then they're like media was a little dumb with that. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's been huge for the industry and definitely like so nice that you know, we can this thing that we do we can a keep doing it. We can put it out every week without it being a financial burden on us. Right. And also maybe turn into something else. It's great to see podcasters, you know, turning their shows into books and TV shows comics. Kind of all this other stuff. So it's really great that not only can this be a little job. But also it could maybe turn into something else. So that's like awesome. And I think that's you know, Syria was part of that Frazier. Yeah. What a someone who has done the same show for a long time as well. Like, what do you? How do you approach it after twelve years? Well, I mean, Jordan Jesse go the show with Jesse is a kind of its own. It's a special case because it is not about anything. It's just a chatting with a guest each week. Yeah. We have some kind of recurring segments stuff like that. But it's you know for better or for worse. It is the two white guys. Chatting podcasts writes the joke about podcasts. Yeah. It's just two white guys. You know? But it wasn't a joke when you start. No, no, no. Of course. And I think the you know that that was its own little genre for a while. And you know, but so, you know, I don't think. You know, we have a we have a really great loyal nice. Nice fan base. They're not God. It's so nice to do something on the internet for not assholes. Yeah. Same here, man. We've got good, folks. Yeah. So we have this kind of great little pocket. It's not a giant audience, but they're, you know, they're strong, and they're loyal and they like the show. So. Yeah. And you know, they donate to max fund. So we make a little bit of money each month from their nice donations. And so, you know, it's not a it's not a financial suck on us to do the podcast. Right. So yeah. I mean, I I don't think I don't think either of us thinks that, you know, twelve years in Jordan, Jesse go is going to become, you know, a TV show or something like that. But I think it's it's fun. We get to see which is nice, you know, part of it. Yeah. Kind of I think just in our very different in that. He he is married with three kids. Right. And you know, doesn't get out to hang a lot. So I think the kind of the podcast is our hang or we get to kind of catch up and like other friends too. You know, we, you know, the comics we have on the show or the people we have on our show are usually buds. Right. So it's kind of a fun little chance to catch up. And. Yeah. And and the audience is kind of nice, and they kind of kindly donate. So. It's like, okay, we can still do this. And it's worth doing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I think we, you know, we do it because we love it. And we do it because our fans are so nice. I don't think we are looking to take any other kind of level. So yeah, I think Jordan Jessica was just kind of a nice part of my life. That has always been that will always be a pleasure. Like, it's not. Yeah. It's it's it's rarely stressful. And it's rarely you know, warning thing. But yeah, yeah. It's it definitely does not feel like work. Yeah. So is it the kind of thing you want to do prever? I think so I mean, I can't think of a reason that we would stop doing Jordan Jesse go. I mean, it'd be there would be some sort of like hiatus, if you know, if there was family stuff, or if I you know, who knows maybe one of us would get a job in New York or something and they'd have to put it on hold for a while. But yeah, I mean, I think it's something we want to do for the for the foreseeable future. There's any reason to cool. Yeah. My wife. It's funny about two months ago. She heard a snippet of your theme song by the free design. Yes on maybe a TV show. There's an Amazon show was the Fred arms in my off Amazon show. Yes, we want a lot of tweets because of that. Yeah. And she freaked out because she was I know that song. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. And she doesn't listen to podcasts show like well. No, you don't know it from that. Right. And I was like, wait a minute. I know that's on I figured out very quickly that was JJ go, but she did a deep dive on the internet in realize it was a song that her babysitter saying for her really when she would go to sleep when she was a little kid. It does have lullaby qualities. So she like had this big moment of like all the sweat of memories. Coming back with the song hadn't heard it since she was like four. Yeah. And heard it again. Like, oh my God. And I was like, yeah. This Jordan Jesse goes theme song, really funny and learned all the words and now things that to my daughter in bed. That's really cute, and I do a little background like bam. Bam. Bam. That's great. I can't commit the words memory because I'm terrible like that. Yeah. But yeah, it's kind of become a fun little thing. And like now every night when my daughter to bed like weirdly in the back of my brain. I'm thinking of you guys. That's funny. Yeah. I mean, you should just complete the complete the experience after you sing the song to your daughter. Just put make a bunch of say make a bunch of dick jokes. Remember old Sega Genesis games? Which is the bulk of the podcast pretty much talking about our balls, remembering Sega Genesis. Let's talk about bubble before we get on break though. That is the scripted comedy shows that you put out last year with max fun and was how did that come about? Was that your baby? Yes. So I mean, I for years worked on the TV show at midnight. That's right on comedy central. Yeah. That was a blast. That was a really fun writer's room. And, you know, just like the guests that they brought in through that place were amazing. So was like, you know, getting a cool new co worker every day kind of your first big professional writing gig wasn't or wasn't it. Yeah. I mean, I had had other. I had a lot of other jobs in like deep cable and deep cable. I was on. I've I did a lot of writing for Shannon, six hundred twelve. So a lot of like, real obscure cable stuff and like internet stuff. But at was my first w job, certainly, well, and yeah, definitely my first, you know, thing that was kind of high profile more than people who watched channel six hundred twelve at heard about. So yes, kind of that show was kind of approaching the end. And I think we all kind of knew it was the end. Yeah. And you know, everybody kind of started getting their they're writing samples in order to look for jobs, this pack. It's gotta get those packets ready. So yeah, I was thinking about the kind of thing I wanted to do after at midnight. And you know, I think I was like, okay. Well, boy late night is sure a lot of Trump, you know. So I guess, you know, the idea of doing more kind of news joke seemed a little exhausting. So yeah. But I'm gonna say, well, what do I like I like Saifi like, John or stuff? I like, you know, I love it. When that stuff has a sense of humor like, you know, so yes. So maybe I will try and write a funny Sifi things have had this vague idea of a of a hipster city that was kind of like a silver lake or a Portland or Berlin that you know, that was really great and had all this cool coffee in all these bike lanes dog parks. And also it had these space monsters that killed you. When you went for your morning jog. And I think it's part of the joke of that being that like to live in one of these cool places is very nice, but it's also hard expensive, and you know, cities can be nightmarish. And now that people are relying on the gig economy more, how do you make your rent in one of these places? Right. So, you know, kind of taking the struggle of that, and you know, and just adding Sifi element to it. So yes. Had this idea of a hipster city where you had to fight monsters and kind of you know, kind of slowly just kind of in my notes app, kind of jotted down little ideas for characters or what the world would be like or the back story, and yeah. And then just kind of sat down to write it one day. And we think in TV I was thinking TV, I didn't necessarily think it was something people would make because it's crazy. But I thought this could be a good sample. This is a good sample to you know, that would get people from, you know, the flash or whatever to interview me. So I wrote I said I wrote the sample, and we did a little staged reading of it here at in a at a little comedy theater, and you know, just recorded that and put out the audio and I'm like, okay. Well, that's something. I've kind of got on other people with writing samples is that I know podcast people can make a little podcast like thing out of this. Right. And that's that's that's little set it apart from the other fucking pile of scripts people. Yes. So we, you know, we so I s we made that and then I had a couple of meetings about bubble, and you know. Kind of the tone of them. All was like, this is this is cool. We like this. We will never make you know. So yeah, there's a lot of like that kind of frustrating. And I'm like, boy, I mean, a lot of people seem to responding to this thing. But nobody wants to do anything with it. That's the weird disconnect. So yes. So then I think Jesse and max fun. We're thinking about trying something scripted. You know? So I think that was kind of a natural choice for them because it already had a little fan base from the stage treating so. Yes, I think then then you know, they they. Yeah. They just kind of invested some money into hiring editors writers actors and kind of. Yeah. Tried to do it as legit as possible tried to make it as a TV like an experience. Possible. Yeah. Did eight episodes soon to be nine episodes. And. Yeah. And it's it's it it it it really it really took off in a way that was surprising and delightful. Yeah. I think you guys you see. I mean, you're groundbreaker. An don't think you know that. You know with Jordan Jessica starting out years ago and then with bubble. I think is I mean, it's got to be the probably the biggest scripted comedy show. That's been out. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's a lot of other. There's a lot of other really great scripted John r- things out there. Welcome to night Vale comes to mind. Well, sure, and the bright sessions is another great one. Yeah. Heard of them and. Yeah. And they've they've all been doing this sort of thing for a while with great success. And they they all have a lot fans. But yeah, I mean, I think you know, I think bubble was notable just because it was such a production. It. We didn't want it to be like found audio bridge. I think a lot of things for mostly for production reasons are all kind of liberty. This is found audio which is which is a very cool way to do it. But I think I just kind of felt like that had been done. So yes, I think bubble was just notable because it is a, you know, it is a TV like product for your ears, and it had a continuity, and you know, it had an arc and stuff like that. So yeah, I think I think it was cool. I think we were definitely trying to do something new ish. And. Yeah. And I think we did. I think it's pretty it's great. It definitely is it. Yeah. I think it does feel unique in the world of scripted podcasts. Yeah. And I think the timing of it too was pretty pretty great like five years ago. It may not have registered like it did now. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you know, podcasts have been going on for a long enough. And I think there's a certain I mean, I'm sure you. Counter this when you're you know. Sitting next to some strangers at a wedding trying to explain what a podcast is. And I think that now people who've caught on to the to the technology, and they're they are willing to try some stuff that is a little more out. There are typically, which is great, you know. And I think yes, I think that you know, there are enough chat podcast. And there are enough news podcast. I think people plenty of true crime. There's plenty of crime. If you wanna yes, if you want to hear about a murder there are now podcast devoted exclusively to I trauma, any kind of murder you like you can get patik podcasts four. Yeah. Right. Do you like choking? There's a hold choking section of I tunes of apple podcast just type in murder dot choking. And get. Anyway. So yeah, I don't know. I think I think people are just like cool. I got this podcast part of my life, and they're part of my commute part of my intake. But let's try something new. Yeah. I think we're all interested to see where that goes. Yeah. Definitely. And it's definitely nice. I think you know, being in a town that is full of people who have scripts that they love who that don't go anywhere. It's nice that there's options you can do podcasts or comment holier web series or. Yeah. So it it it. It is cool that some of these great ideas that are are great. But you know, you know, TV can still be very conservative not politically necessarily, but just like today chances creatively. Yeah. Totally. So it's nice that you know. Just feeling like just because something is too out there for NBC. Right. That it would never find an audience. Yeah. I mean, it's a cool time to be a creator in a writer. I think because gone are the days where you're just sort of sitting around waiting for your phone during you can be much more proactive totally and how you get yourself out there. Yeah. Exactly. It's really nice to it's nice to live in a world where you don't have to like rely on other. You don't have to get permission to work. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if you want to do this, you can do it. Uh-huh. You know? And you know, obviously, we all would like to make some money. Sure, we'd all like to be paid and have health insurance and stuff. But as far as the creative part of it. It's like, you can create your thing, and you can have people who like your thing. And hopefully, the the the money in the health insurance comes later, but yeah, but it's nice to know that. Yeah. It's nice to know that you can do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Hey, everyone in movie crush land. Let me talk to you about interest rates on credit cards. They are no good. The average interest rate on credit card debt is over eighteen percent. APR have your even looked at your interest rate lately, it's probably pretty bad everyone. So right now, I can encourage you to refinance your high interest credit card balance and save with a credit card consolidation loan. 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This movie came out when I was a the summer before my sophomore year in college. And for some reason that summer me and my two friends, Chris Jerry saw a bunch of movies together. We I think we're just in the same town. Yeah. And board and point break was one of the big ones that year for us. Okay. Cool. Like, very distinct memories. Yeah. Of going to see this. And I even remember it rained very very hard after we saw it in my friend getting out of the movie, and you're like the fifty years store, we're in it that was it. And we were in my friends Jeep who had the top down. It was raining when we went in. Yeah. And I remember this great drive in the pouring rain. You know, and we were making all the jokes about point break. Fifty. Or storm, and it's just one of those movies that really like the actual viewing of the movies. Still stands out to me. That's awesome. All these years later. Yeah. I mean, it's the great movie to see with a big group. It isn't movie about groups and tribes of made families. So it's nice. It's nice to see that with your kind of like friend family. Yeah. What was your deal in? I mean, you you probably saw this on VHS later. Right. Yes. So this was I don't specifically. Remember the first time I saw this. But I remember it being a sleepover movie like a movie that people had on VHS, and maybe kind of later DVD, and it would be something you would put on at a sleepover kind of watched the first couple of minutes and then just sleep over shit. What start sure you know, you'll start talking and fucking with each other and sleep over shit. So so, you know, it was a movie that I had seen. But like not like I had fond memories of obviously, everything stopped all the sleepover. Shits? Stopped. When yo Lori petty was towel changing by her car. Yeah. So, you know, there was there was kind of like parts that we love. But it was something that I had fun memories of but rarely sat down to watch the whole thing. Yeah. And of course, you knew the lines your FICO India's who are you going to jump or jerk off? I'm young dumb and full of cum, man. I mean, there's so many many lines in this. So yeah, it was kind of a movie that existed in little chunks and. Yeah. And then I remember like in college actually sitting down and like watching it in a dark room and paying attention going like, this is kind of a great movie. This is kind of a food. Boy, I might get some shit for this. This is a diehard caliber action movie that is cool and thoughtful and very funny. It is very funny. Like watching it. It's I mean, it's corny as hell. Yes. But like that's because that's the kind of movies that they were making then the DNA of Kathryn Bigelow 's career, right? Was all there. But they she just wasn't allowed to make movies. Like the hurt locker totally at that point. Yeah. It does feel like this movie is is a commentary, and maybe even a little bit of a satire on those kinds of movies. It's definitely a turned up to eleven version of those you know, van Damme. Steven Seagal, you know, Bruce, Willis Silvester Stallone movies. Yeah. And it does as chief. Yeah. Just totally making that up. I don't think. So. And I think that's that's a big question about breaking funny on purpose. Right. And it's a fun thing to puzzle out. Do Jamie winless think that? The crazy stuff. They know is crazy and they're doing it for fun. I mean, I I think that, you know, a great example of that is there's this awesome foot chase where. Chasing one of the best foot chasing. So yeah. Really well put together and sometimes, you know, go back and watch all these action movies. The action doesn't hold up because action has changed so much. Yeah. It's like, how do you watch? How do you watch kickboxer in a world where you've also seen the raid? Right. It's like it just looks so fucking. But this movie is is is is done by a pretty brilliant. Filmmaker the action's really terrific only hold up. But there's this moment in that case. I know what you're gonna say. Yes, sir. It's conic. It's like conic Bruce Willis walking over the glass. Patrick swayze. Throws a dog at Kiana Reno's a fitful at canneries catches it. And it like football. They know. That's funny. They know that. Oh, and it's so funny. I as I watched it for this. I let it let the credits play because I was enjoying the rat. The rat song. What is that song called? I don't know. Nobody writes for free. Yeah. Yeah. It was and enjoying the music, and it just kind of noticed. The the department says animals were not harmed in the making of this. So I had never seen this before in the credit says, and there is a scene of an animal being harmed. But the, but a decoy of the animal was usually. Yeah. Wow. So yeah, I think I've pretty good confines punting a false dog. Another rush album punching. You're gonna have to move one more. You know? Okay. I will rule of threes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know I'm comedy professional rule threes. For the listener. So yeah. So yeah. But I do think there there moments like that, you know, kind of kind of let you know that they get how crazy some of the stuff is there's no way you're going on Pro Bowl at a guy in a fight because that means if you think about what's going on. He would have had to have if you're if your body your sways. Yes, you would have had to run out of the front of that house with him right behind you. See this pit bull. Yeah. And decide I'm going to pick this dog up wait until he gets here. Adam. It's so great is awesome. Moment. And it's one of the like one of the great great moments, and it is in the middle of a really well put together cool chase. It's like you. Have you have this like cool filmmaking on display just with these? I don't know with these crazy moments that that that are kind of jokes. There's so much impossible stuff in this movie. You know that is played really seriously. So the jumping back to the beginning and that first bit of exposition from John C McGinley is really like something else. He so good in this like, you know, the whole deal of writing those exposition scenes at the beginning to set everything up there. So so many clever ways of doing that where it doesn't appear like you're doing exposition, and they just flat out like he's walking into the hall. And he's like, so you're Johnny Utah. First day on the job first day in the new city. Yeah. Like, he literally is like LA Bank robbery capital of the world. He just lays it all out there in like, thirty seconds. It's so great. Yeah. An exactly and then, you know, he's he makes us like joke about diet. He's like he's like, oh, you got you know, my guys don't drink. They don't and they and they sure as hell don't smoke. Yeah. Candles. I take the skin off chicken. And then later in the middle of that conversation Kano picks up a Donut and he's eating outta. Yeah. And then Johnny begin says like, you know, he says something about like what Dicky isn't. He's like, it's like do they call you because we had an asshole shortage. There are a lot of great ones. I know. And I think he is definitely a heightened kind of comic version of the like hard ass police chief, I think they definitely he's kind of a sketch comedy version of that archetype. Well, it's full of good actors. I mean, this been this could have been different movie if it would have been Vandamme surrounded by nameless, right hacks Scher, but like Johnny McGinley in a very small role. He's a great actor totally and kind of across the board. I mean canneries cannery he's Kiana win. He's he's Kiana in hard in this. Yeah, I used to make fun of him. And then I had a friend who worked with him in. He said, a the nicest dude, ever meet, and he said be he he beats himself up so much about the job that he's doing really, and I instantly like felt bad as a person. Yeah. We're making fun of his acting. I know he's really trying. I think he is trying. I think he's doing it again. It's like how much of Kiana was on purpose. Yeah. I think a lot of it. I mean, like if you look at like Bill and Ted like crazy version of valley stone our guy, and then kind of like walk that back for subsequent movies. I don't know. I do I do think he he knows what Kiana who is supposed to do. And I think he's gotten better over the years as an actor. Yeah. It's the tone the voice of his. Yeah. It's sort of hard to leap past that right sometimes because he does sound like Ted or Bill. Wait shit tap. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to get Ted Theodore Logan. That's right. I forget sometime. But yeah, he's a good actor though ES. Yeah. And he's been he'd been great and stuff since then. And he definitely like, yeah. Definitely like plays with his persona in fun ways. I think so the ex-president's I think is a brilliant sort of conceit awesome for Bank robbers. Yeah. Because you know, you you get the moment with like Ronald Reagan in his tuxedo. Yeah. Braying this gas toward is there a cooler shot movie. I don't know enough about like Reagan's presidency to like unpacked, the simple ISM of that. Oh, sure. Like OPEC in right? Yeah. I don't know how much political commentaries in that image. But it's so it like, it's it. Yeah. It's it's like it's so powerful just like a guy in a Reagan mask. You know, launching fire all over the station. It's really beautiful to anyway. So yeah, definitely one of my great bad guys. And then abuse e you know, Beauce e having recently won an Oscar what? Yeah. Didn't he win for the buddy Holly movie? Oh, recently, then. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yes. No not now. Yeah. He wasn't there. You might now. It's like dude I do. Minutes. Okay. So he was coming off of an Oscar win in ninety one. Then I think so or close to it. Yeah. I think so for the buddy Holly movie, so yeah. But yeah, definitely like being this is a a kind of a harbinger of things to come for UC. Yes. Kind of kooky out there. Yeah. Madman role. But yeah, maybe this is the first time he could've played this way. Yeah. I like the first that scene where there's just so many ridiculous things in it. It's great like there in the office after that scene over Mulholland Drive, which is great. Oh, yeah. And cana- Reeves is like drinking a beer like, okay? These drinking a beer, then Gary just. Just. At whole bottle of Jack Daniels. It kind of comes from offscreen to know. Yeah. It's kind of like, they're working. Yeah. Drinking whisky out of the bottle shirt. It is. Yeah. It's hilarious. Yeah. Definitely like I feel like they definitely let him run wild in this. There's definitely lot of little. I think there's this point where he's like pointing a gun at this thug and he's like speak into the microphone squid for brain. Yeah. That could not have been in the scripts. Lori petty. Like, you mentioned the the clothes changing seeing lighter, man. I mean if you were a kid back then. Yeah. Like, Lori petty was super cool. Yeah. And like pretty but like not like this. She seems somewhat attainable. And the way she carried herself onscreen. Yeah. I mean, she was a pretty I mean, a pretty I mean, you know, I mean, I think looking back like, you know, all of these action movies had pretty pretty flimsy female characters. And I think that you know, in a lot of ways, she is, you know, she is kind of underwritten, and you know, kind of there as a. You know, it's kind of a plot convenience. She gets kidnapped has to get saved like, you know. But for the time, I do think she was a really like a pretty amazing female character that I think these types of movies did not have. I mean, she. Yeah. I mean, I do love I do love how much shit she gives Keanu when he wants her to teach him how to surf there's a scrape part where she kind of saves him. She pulls him out of the water when he's trying to surf on his own and as she's kind of running off. He's like my name is Johnny Utah and she'd use U offscreen dope. Who cares? And I think the movie was called Johnny Utah. I yeah, that's true. So I think they I think that was a joke on the fact that that was supposed to be the title of the movie, right? Could not give less of a fuck about him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's she's great. And I love how she's you know. She's the most competent surfer, you know, in that scene where they're all playing touch football. She's the one who scores the touchdown, right? Yeah. They really like, you know, they really try to round her out in ways that maybe she would not have been if the movie was made by a man. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Again, with that such I think she's still a little bit a little bit flimsy. And I think he would you would not make a movie with a underdeveloped female character. Like that now. But I mean, I think for the time she was nineteen Ninety-one nineteen Ninety-one. So yeah, obviously, like, you know, definitely like if you were you know, if you were if you were a little little punk kid. She was she was the she was the as as as babies you could get. Yeah. So Lori petty gave many special feelings. Sure. Yeah. Even as a sophomore in college. And then you know, then league their own. Yes. Another anyway. Yeah. She's I looked her up to actually she's she still around. Yeah. Still doing it out there grinding thing. I imagine. She still gets tired of being called Billie Jean on the streets. Now. Sure, I bet she got that a lot. Yeah. Who said actress Helen, something legibility Jean? I know you mean, I even thought it was Lori petty. And I was like, no, of course. It's not. Yeah. During the surfing school seen? I'm going to point out some of the cornball things along the way. I know but during the scene where she's teaching them to serve. I don't know. If you noticed the lyrics of the song. No, I don't think I did. I will not fall. It is like the nose so on the nose. It's graha. It's really wonderful. I'm learning to serve. The comes on. But then she tells him about boating. This is one of the great lines of the movie boaty. They call him a body Sada. He's a modern savage a real searcher. Yeah. Great. Great. But it's character. You know? Sure does. Yeah. And he's he is he is a really great character. Really like great complicated. Weird villain and. Yeah, that is kind of a funny clumsy intro to him. Hundred savage, and you imagine that looked like on the page, Lori petty. But swayze's great. I mean, I was awesome. I was not ashamed to stick up for roadhouse. Fuck man. Yeah. Roadhouse rules. Yeah. It's like one of the one of the great movies of the time. And you know, we're talking about fun movies. Not obviously, not Oscar winner share. Yeah. But roadhouse, great, and you know, thirty dancing. I saw enough to appreciate and he was just sort of like in this movie to see him. We saw him like we had never seen him with that sort of blonde hair, and you know, all tanned up and stuff. Yeah. And I it was like the coolest ways I'd seen it. I know in the movie definitely like the movie definitely like Ogle him. You know, definitely in a, you know, if if you know, if we if we definitely Ogle Lori petty a little bit when she is chained close like really let ya let you drink Swayze and a lot of this. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Which I which I think is kind of cool that he's objectify. Guide that much. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Just just a great character. And I love I love how how spiritual he is compared to the rest of the dufuses and the gang. It's interesting. He talks a lot about it. And it's even like bullshit in a way because he talks about like how much he hates violence like in the midst of committing acts of violence. Yeah. I mean, they really like to make a meal out of the moment in the foiled Bank robbery where he has to shoot the cover top. Sure, they definitely linger on that as you know, and you can kind of see his eyes through the mass. Yes, he is is you know. You could see him realizing that he's turned a corner that shit's falling apart. It's a really cool little moment for sure. Yeah. I think it works. Yeah. But I mean, obviously like there is a. You know, there is a there is a disconnect about how what a peaceful chill, dude. He is. And how much shit he kicks throughout the movie during that one great Seaney? He talks about the purpose of the whole thing is like it's not about money, man. Yeah. Oh, yes. People in their fucking coffins on three way often metal coffins. He's he's literally saying that they are keeping the human spirit alive right by robbing banks like violent, mayhem, sure. Like showing all these people like the human spirit still alive. Everybody. I know that very flimsy ES that point could have been better illustrated. It would have been nice to see I dunno like, oh people are dressing up like the ex-president's. Right. You know, it wasn't a flash mob though. No, it does seem like you're just robbing banks and masks, although maybe that's maybe that's part of the movie that was just what they were telling themselves. Right. They were like, oh, this is inspiring people. We get Anthony Kiedis and. A little cameo as one of the there's like, yeah, they're the. Yeah. Like Swayze in his gang the good thugs. And we have this group of bad thugs. And those guys scary. I remember like when I saw that movie. Totally pretty pre CT out. Yeah. There's some severe looking burnouts. Yeah. Well cast everybody there is really well cast. I think. Yeah. In the raid seen on their house was really great. Yeah. That's an awesome scene. Yeah. A lot of funny little like visual jokes in that. Right. It is funny. How you know? There's, you know, the this kind of movie of the time always had a moment where there was just a nude woman. Hey, this part of as a teenager. Why we liked them so much or they they would find any reason to have just nakedness? Yeah. Exactly. Like, I think there's a commando. There's the shot were Arnold is fighting someone at a motel and he throws someone through the door. And there's just a nude woman in the hotel being nude or this this. Raid scene has women who is just in the shower, but she beats up like three people stabs the guy in the back. So I liked it. They're bad us in that scene. Yeah. I liked it. They are you know, it again, I think it's part of part of the argument for this movie being a kind of commentary on these kinds of movies. The gratuitous nude woman actually hurts bunch of people, and is she kicks skin. And she doesn't just she doesn't just you know. I mean, obviously, we're we're we're trying to intellectualize moment. Tina, which is you know, there's some there's some intellectual gymnastics going on here. But I do I do think that was a conscious decision. Do you think them saying that, you know, can we can give can give a little more agency to these right to these nude women? I mean, she does she kicks more acid randomly, grabs a knife and stabs somebody. Yeah. So yeah. Very cool. And I love it winning anti accidentally shoots himself in the foot. So great. Yeah. Yeah. That one really stood out to me is something that stuck with me. And also, I love these scenes in these kinds of like movies win just random dirtbags have crazy automatic weapons. Yeah. Their weapons arsenal is insane drug dealers. But they have seem to have grenade launchers. Yeah. Yeah. No. They do that guy that one dude had that whatever that was that weird. Tommy gun shotgun. Yeah. Hybrid or whatever. I know. It's like how do these guys get? I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's a that's a commentary on gun culture. I don't know. But well, I had friends to like this. So I was a sophomore college. My best friend from high school was one of these suburban. Inland suburban kids who was still way into the skater and self surf culture. So he went to college in Florida. So he could serve and I went down there. A couple of times in like, I knew these dudes. Yeah. Like, this this everyone the ex-president's I felt like I met at Flagler college. Yeah. And I I knew those surf in. Of course, I'm sure you did growing up. Totally. Yeah. Like, these were real people. They they didn't seem like they were like forty years old like these guys did. Yeah. But it was it was a culture that. Yeah. There's a guy in this. Who's like I'm gonna die before I'm thirty thirty five years ago. Go back in time and commit suicide. If that's going to happen over that far. Remember that far from thirty man. Okay. But I kind of knew who these guys were in the whole like violent surf culture is like a real thing. Yeah. I mean, I think they're you know, you do here. It's funny. There's that documentary about about Venice skateboard culture dog town Zibo. Yeah. Yeah. I remember sure. And you know, it really wreck romanticize is kind of late seventies skate culture. And the idea is that it started with surfing, you know, it started with surfing. And then you know, when they couldn't go out in the water because it was too polluted or whatever they would skateboard. So it starts out with all these like seventies skaters talking about their time as surfers and they're like. And you know, and this is supposed to be a fun part of the movie. Yeah. There's part. We're one of the guys like Tony alva- or something. Like that goes. It's like, yeah. You know, we were pretty protective of our breaks. It was locals only if we saw a guy on the water. We didn't recognize we would stand up on the pier and drop a cinderblock on him. I'm like what? Fun. You. You're probably a murderer. Right. Probably that would kill someone. He's talking about it like childhood antics. Cinderblocks people from peers, we didn't recognize them. And I it's like supposed to be a fun culture. But like, yeah, you guys were kind of psychos, you know, and maybe, you know, maybe people's brains were kind of fried from drugs. I think that that world of of extreme sports definitely has like a little dark side that I think this thing played with in a way. Yeah. And like I'm glad that they made sense out of what they were doing. Because when you first thing that movie while when you're first thing when you're twenty or whatever you just believe whatever better when I was watching yesterday, I kind of forgotten the detail that they were running meth. Yeah. And I was like what are these guys have all these guns and what's going on? But they were truly bad dudes, of course, like running drugs, and what's his name, Tom Sizemore. Oh, yeah. He was the guy. Oh, yeah. Got all pissed off. Sure. It's kind of an early Sizemore appearance again this movie filled with the better actors needs much better actors than it needs. I haven't note here that just says, I'm fucking surfing. During midnight, sir. Yeah. Can't who actually yell right? He's like when this becomes. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the day or that's the night rather. When it goes from being an undercover job to like, I'm into deep. Yeah. I love these guys. Yeah. That's when he Lori petty have sex on the beach, right? The kiss out in the water on the boards. Yeah. Those beautiful moment. Great. Yes. I think that's the that's kind of turning point for him. Yeah. Oh, just one more quick note before we move on from the meth house. It starts with people are staking them out. And you see one of the meth guys. Oregon pouring beer on cereal. Anyway. It's funny. Great great little like a little visual joke. Well, and that's like this does have James Cameron's fingerprints on it share for better for worse. Yeah. I think he the, you know, lease according to I m d trivia, he and Kathryn Bigelow kind of rewrote an existing script. Yeah. That there was dating. Right. I think they were married at this point. I don't know for certain. But I think they were married at this point. Yeah. So I think they rewrote it together. And yeah, there's definitely some Cameron shit in this. Yeah. There's definitely I mean. Yeah. Definitely some of the, you know, some of the more awkward dialogue. I would go ahead and probably a tribute to him, you know, he's managed a mazing films. Yeah. Where do you stand on him? Boy. I mean, you know, camera movies are always they're always a blast. And they always look cool. Yeah. I mean, definitely the man is not a master of dialogue. Or maybe he's doing it on purpose. Maybe he's trying to make things more like a fairy tale or simplistic or something like that. But I mean, yeah, I mean. I think that I always I always liked them. But yeah, but they always have some they always have some kind of cornball I roll stuff that you gotta get past to enjoy the spectacle. I agree writing is not as strong suit. No, let somebody else ride them. Exactly. I'm sure he's going to write them. The Bank stakeout seen kills me. Because they they're staking out this Bank. And just they're the they're the worst stakeout guys ever. Yeah. He's like, oh, give me a sandwich. Yeah. And this it's all happening behind them. You talk give me to he's reading the comics. He's reading. Yeah. You're literally in their robbing the Bank. You see is like laughing at laughing at Calvin high newspaper. He makes Kiana go get a Meatball sandwiches to Meatball sandwiches. Yeah. And the whole thing is going on right behind them. I know they gets back and he's okay. You know that that continental how long's up in there? It's like what continental. That's what are you doing? You know? Yeah. Foods. Good seen the Bank robbery scene. Yeah. It's neat is pretty cool. In like, I think the I mean, listen, it is what it is. It's point break. But there really is something going on with the last half hour of that film. Where new like the coolest thing that happened in the movie, I think is when after the he was outed with after the big foot chase with Swayze Swayze in the gang show up at his house and are just like what's up, man? I know. Yeah. There was your face cut. Yeah. That really ramps up the tension. Totally definitely shows. You know, definitely like is a good example of these guys. You know, this gang will just take that adrenaline rush wherever they can get it and how they live their lives. I mean, do they are kind of junkies. Like at that point. They could leave town they successfully robbed at the Bank. But they like go to fucking tante Keanu. You know, it's like, yeah. It's like, wow. These guys, you know, these guys are just, you know, living on the edge at all times. Yeah. That is a neat moment. The like who who's going to say, we know? I right. You know, someone's going to blink right? And that sequences good. The skydiving skydiving is awesome. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. I think squeezy did his own skydiving. He did. And he he got into it Intel when you're watching it. Yeah. You can see some of those dirty, dancing moods, train dancer. He does have like beautiful arches back in ways. Nice aerial move. Yeah. So yeah, he's so graceful he's yeah. He's a really really beautiful performer even win skydiving. Yeah. Definitely that like who packed. My chute moment. Cool is really a cool moment of tension. Totally. Yeah. And yeah, there's definitely a lot of skydiving in this movie. Yeah. But then they like ramp it up even further by forcing him to take part. I thought like thought this movie got really good in that third act. Yeah. Like, it was fun. But that third act was some legit poker. Playing in Oakland chess matching I think to like force him to go and rob the Bank. They have Lori petty with with the one metalhead who all he does is like spit and kick his name is rosy rosy. Yeah. But that was a good move. Like, all of a sudden can't it was part part of the gang. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I've really liked that part of like you kind of see Kiana enjoying this stuff. You know, he had led this kind of button up life. They talk about him going to Quantico, right? Yeah. You kind of like see him enjoy robbing the Bank. And it was this moment of like. Yeah. It's like it's Swayze trying to convince him that this is the way to live. Yeah. Like I felt like that for sure Swayze wanted him to be on the team. Yeah. Totally do you want. You turn him. Yeah. I mean that was. Yeah. That seemed to be like, you know, it right? It's like this is not this is not helping you rob the Bank. But it is part of your MO to see if you can absorb more people into this gang. He and you could definitely tell that. They were like, you know connection. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the other love story of the movie. It really is the tween between Johnny Utah boaty. Yeah. Yeah. So it's definitely a yes there is there is that love story going onto. Yeah. It's interesting because I never really put that all together until watching it last night, and they like, and they spare each other so much in this like there are so many chances where one could have killed the other one. But they stop at the last second. Yeah. Keno not shooting him in the alley at the end. It's like he you know, bodies drowning him and lets him up. But there's this about likely just can't end it. You know, they just have to keep keep themselves in this cycle. He. Well, you know, they have the the great shootout at the at the airport. Yes. Where basically everybody dies. But. Yeah. Boy, this is a real bloodbath. I really forgot how many main characters just eat it in the end of this movie. Yeah. And even James gross. They you know, he doesn't quite die yet. But his plan, you know, buddies plan is all right. You've got two bullets to the chest. But we're gonna parachute you down into Mexico with a bag full of money any hands big gun to. It's like you're gonna be just fine. Yeah. So this this plan is solid the guy just kind of flops out of the plane to that was a funny part. I know I'm sure skydivers take issue with some stuff in this movie. Yeah. But you know, it's a cool moment that all in all in the service of fun. Yeah. Without a shoot without a shoot as fuck it. Yeah. It's one of the great moments. I know. Yeah. He just say fuck it says fuck it. And you know, they have that one, you know, part of the whole one up in ship of like who's more extreme, right? Like that carries to its final conclusion there with the parachuting like they literally have a conversation while they're falling to their death. And then. Yeah. And then I think at the at the end Petra traces your one radical son of a bitch. It's great. And then here's a weird part of net though. I think they keep going back to trick. Ni. Right. Because that's what kept him out of football. Right. And then later on in the movie, he injures it. Uh-huh. Yeah. And after they skydive with two men one parachute and hit the ground. Yeah. Patrick Swayze gets up to get away. Kanter's nee- X up. Like, that's like you have so many other injuries at this point like, right? But he's like, no sealed my knee. But it ends like in the only way it could end. Yeah. That that great final seen with at the fifty year storm. Yeah. I finally finds that finds that wave. He's been chasing all his life and counter, let's go to have one last ride. Yeah. And it's cool when he catches up to him. And he tells them I was like a week behind you and Sumatra. I just missed you hear like his hairs long now. Yeah. So like, you get this real sense that he's been you know, on this mission. There's a whole other movie there there is of like Keanu tailing. Yes. Ways to surf spots. Uh-huh. Yeah. They should have made that movie. I know right. There's so much more point break to be explored. I think it's I mean, you know, obviously, I will have the cold take that there are too many sequels and reboots but come on. Let's let's let's this shit. It's rich. Did you see the remake? And it just the worst boring. Really boring. There's a remaking twenty fifteen right. And I think it has the it has the dubious honor of being one of the lowest grossing movies of that year, really think it really really sit on Christmas day. Even I watched on HBO when it came out later. And the like the extreme sports stuff is really beautifully shot. I think it was all shot, you know, with max in mind, right wing suit stuff. Yeah. All that is really cool to look at. But it seems like just a, you know, a demo for a flat screen TV in best buy, you know, it's just like look at this. And then the story is so boring. Everybody is such a nothing all the actors such. Nothing's and I think, you know, like we were saying part of part of part of what makes this movie. So great is that like, there's all these cool fund actors acting in this, you know? In this kind of corny action movie. So yeah, they really like just pick good-looking zeros to play all the characters. Right. Is not funny. It's not funny. That's what people like about point break. They don't sure aren't. I mean, the action is cool skydiving cool. But they're not the reason it's a classic movies. Not that, you know. So I think they really just missed the point of point break. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't. If it didn't have a sense of humor about itself then. It's just. Yeah. I know it's. Yeah. Just completely. Yeah. Just completely did not know what people like about nurse one. So. All right. You got anything else on PB, man? I dunno. It's great. I don't know. If there's a nice criterion. Blu Ray of it out there somewhere. But it seems like yeah. Criterion. Get on that. I would like to see some behind the scenes should me too. Yeah. Do have one more line in here place when when Bodey is face with Canada at the end in the airplane. He said, I know you want me so bad. It's like acid. Yes. I know very Arana. About my my kind of playing with that dynamic where Swayze is so much more articulate than his gang. Just great moment in the van on the way to the last jump which has like five classic lines that van ride is so full of great dial. It has I am an FBI agent. Yeah. Swayze says why be a servant to the law when you can be it's fuck and master. And then his skin turns around and just goes fucking. So could I love it, man. Yeah. Definitely some James Cameron going on. Of course. Earlier this year in an interview. With Breitbart news, President Donald Trump said that in the event of a civil conflict in the United States. He believed the military and the police as well as civilian groups like the bikers for Trump would be on his side. 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You remember and the first one I saw a loan was Honey, I blew up the kid. Oh, yeah. First movie. I saw without parents. Okay. Was it just you? Or was it? They dropped me off at the mall think mom shop, and then came back to get me when it was over. Nice. I are rated movie RoboCop Q. Oh, yeah. There's a I've not seen it since. There's the scary image of a brain in a jar. That's just burned into my brain. And I think it really scared me the brain and the jar anyway, no, I've been meaning to go back and rewatch robocup too because I like RoboCop one a lot. That's great. I've seen that. That was Joe Rendez pick really when. Yeah. We did this year ago. Nice. Listen to that. Yeah. Robocops great. And again, just a great movie that is at once a cool action movie and kind of commentary on them. I think it's called take since of humor. Yeah. It's very funny. Yeah. I should revisit to see if that brain is a scary as I remember. Will you walk out of a bad movie? I've walked out of two movies, usually, no, I usually kind of like growing up with mystery science theater as I did watching a bad movies kind of fun. I even kind of like it, especially if you're with people, and you can kind of goof on it, it's. Yeah. Sometimes a bad movies fun. They can be interesting. What went wrong, but I think if the people I'm with are having a bad time. I am more likely to walk out the q I remember walking out of is one in high school. It is a Gabriel Byrne horror movie called stigmata, and is about the concept of stigmata election. Yeah. People people, you know, kind of through miracles get Christ's wounds. And I think it was very scary. But I think the people I with I was with were very religious and we're insulted by. So we left and got our money back because God. Yes. Because of God, I think we can remember the friends I was with. Going up to the ticket counter and saying that the movie was blasphemous needed our money back. Well, again, something else I've been meaning to revisit I shall we watch stigmata and see actually. Actually, blasphemous probably was. There's a necessarily something wrong with making a blast from movie. Sure. And then the other one, and I know this will this will make me either a hero or a villain to the listeners. I realize this is a loaded one to talk about but I walked out of tiny furniture, the Lena Dunham. Yeah. I don't know if it was the first movie, I think says kind of the progenitor girls the Esau that I saw I saw it on a date. And I think I was not liking it and my date hated it. So I think we left tiny furniture before the third act. I did go onto really like girls. I watched girls to the end. So I don't I loved girls. Yeah. I don't I don't I do not hate the output of Lena Dunham unless you hate her. Then I also hate it. Don't yell at me online. I know lead. It was supposed to loaded celebrity to talk about. Yeah. Maybe loaded two years ago. But yeah, I know it's so it's it's tough to talk about her because she claims passions in both direction. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Tiny furniture. I did not like, but but have liked some of her subsequent work. Yeah. For sure I tabled at this to the guess what movie? Let me see here. All right. How about this? What what movie? If movies had a writer's room like a lot of TV does what what movie would you have loved to have been a writer for that's a fun one really fun one. Boy, recently, another cold take coming your way. Sure that spider verse movie was good, right, man. That was a really fun movie. So great, and it felt like that had a real brain trust behind it. Uh-huh. You know, I think you had, you know, Lord Miller of the LEGO movie, but definitely there's so much marvel comics in there and think Dan slot. The Spiderman writer had some input on that. Or at least based on his some of his Spiderman stories, so. Yeah, that was such a fun movie. And it definitely felt like they were throwing the kitchen sink in there. So yeah. And I think the best. You know, the the best case scenario of a writer's room. You do feel like it's things are packed with ideas. You know, so. Yeah, that's definitely one. Were it got it just felt like that was probably such a pleasure to just, you know, spew out all of your ideas and see how you can make it work on screen. Great answer and finally moviegoing one. What's your movie ritual where you sit? What do you get? Yeah. Actually, I think I heard I'm gonna I'm gonna copy if a former guests answer probably something you get a lot is I like sitting by that bar. You know, the boom vote railing or the two sections. Yeah. Put my feet up on that bar. So I try and get a get a seat next to the railing. Yeah. You know, nothing nothing to nothing to bunkers. I like like popcorn with just a dab of butter. That's. That that movie theater butter has the ability to ruin your day, stomach wise. But if you can just if the if the if you can get just the right amount. It's you know, it's a razor's edge. Right much like the characters in point break. Walk the edge between life and death. I will walk the edge with movie theater butter trying to put exactly the right amount on. Yeah. Popcorn cherry coke. If they got it. It's the only time the only time I drink a surgery. Sodas, and when I'm gonna movie, and yeah, I don't go to many movies by myself. I will like watch movies at home. But as far as going to the theater, usually try and get somebody to go with me. I don't know why I usually have fun when I go by myself, but it's not something I do a lot. Fans it. All right. Thanks, jordan. All right. Everyone had a good time talking to Jordan. He so much fun. What a good guy. Glad we are pals and glad he agreed to give up some of his time to come in the studio there in Hollywood and talk point break with me what a fun movie you can follow Jordan on Twitter. He's a great follow. 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