19 Episode results for "Cameron Diaz"

The Truth Has No Temperature #1201

Trent365

01:20 min | 2 months ago

The Truth Has No Temperature #1201

"Gay the truth has no temperature interesting movie last night. The counselor i think it was cold. All star cast bit of a weird movie to be honest but there was a great line. In where cameron diaz was talking about death and someone said to her. Gee that's called the way you're talking about it. And her ansa. The truth has no temperature. And i think that's a really good way to think about the truth. Because oftentimes we hear the truth and we just aren't like the way it sounds and so our responses to kind of go on the defensive whether we do it openly not and we get the perception that someone telling us. The truth is gonna be cold being a bit harsh. But his cameron diaz has carried to sit in this movie. The truth has no temperature it. Just ease watered ease and so as hot as it may be too here. Sometimes you just have to accept it is and except that it easy in fact the truth and it's not meant to be had it's not meant to be hard. She's not meant to be cold. It's not meant to be hated. Even it just is what it is. The truth has no temperature or heidi. That is it for today. I do thank you for your time. And i will be back again tomorrow see.

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MINDSET MINUTE MONDAY: A Quick Life Design Hack

Building Psychological Strength

02:15 min | 6 months ago

MINDSET MINUTE MONDAY: A Quick Life Design Hack

"You're listening to the building psychological strength. Podcast brought to you by peak. Mind the center for psychological strength. This is mindset minute monday question. What is your favourite film. What's the film you watch when you need to be distracted comforted or when you need to feel calm. Allow an image of that film to come to mind right now. What exactly is it about the film that you enjoy. Is it the location or the setting. Is it a particular relationship between the characters is it. The artistic look feel maybe something else. What specifically is it once. You have that very specific list in mind. Ask yourself whether there are ways that you can incorporate elements of that film into your own day to day life. I'll give you a concrete example. Don't laugh my favourite film is the holiday specifically. I love cameron diaz as characters home in that film google quickly look at an image of it and then compare the feel of that home to the look and feel of my own personal website april seifert dot com pretty similar That's what i'm talking about. I'm modeled that website. After cameron diaz his home and movie hot the holiday try to infuse elements of your favourite film into your own life. Try it out. See how you feel. Dms on instagram at peak. Line psychology. To let us know how it went and if you want even more click the link in the description for a free gift from us and if you benefit from our content please drop is a rating in a review on itunes and do share this with others who might find it valuable and we'll see next week for another mindset minute.

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Trendercaster 8/6: Thailand, Mike DeWine, NBA, Mulan x Tenet, Cameron Diaz

The Daily Zeitgeist

14:14 min | 10 months ago

Trendercaster 8/6: Thailand, Mike DeWine, NBA, Mulan x Tenet, Cameron Diaz

"Sometimes food is more than just food it's part of our community. So this year discover is giving five million dollars to support black owned restaurants to places like Rodney, Scott Barbecue post office pies, and hundreds more learn how you can show your support at discover dot Com Xfinity X. Y. is more than just fast. It's Internet that gives you peace of mind security because it's connected. It's protected. Yeah. Even your robot vacuum. Can Your Internet do that learn more at xfinity dot com slash X. Y. Hello the Internet and welcome to this special episode of The trend or castor. That's something. On Jack O'Brien isn't that like the fender. Okay. So what do you do like a telecaster? Yeah Sent. Don't play any stairway to have. This is why we on? Watching. The sketch with Will Farrell is the devil on huge. Fender referred to like if add odd constantly. I had to for tomorrow. We'll tease for y'all. Yeah. It's a fender guitar is out of tune. It's a trendier. It's ARA trendier. All right. That's talked about. All right guys trench. Let's tell tell the people miles. That's miles. I'm Jack this is what's trending. Thiland is trending backout. excited. because. That's what you change. Your address to is this or semi Milta- Brian Thiland USA they know what to do every day when my wife gets home from the hospital welcome to land. Ties and get into a defensive position. I slapped by I give up a really bad bruise. Thailand trending though who could it be now? School. Production to Thiland? anti-vietnam shift shifting production. To. Land. Dom Thailand and Vietnam. Nice. Good Save Generalissimo way to pull that one out. Poppy was touching. Go there was touch and go there people almost ignorant. Awesome. Yeah. That is something else that was at a rally in Missouri I believe so that no Ohio Ohio speech he gave in Ohio and people are just you know it's one of the great. I don't know whatever. Yeah. He said he's reading out. Loud. Okay. That's what happens. I'll be interested to see if. Any of this shit like the just the wild interview with Suon that he gave earlier. Leg, if that does anything because his polling numbers according to fivethirtyeight who takes the broad average of all polls have stabilized and started actually moving in the approval direction. So. I'm just wondering if that that might have been like last week when he had the. Conference was like, Hey, masks work and people were like Oh thank God he's finally turned a corner. Like regard the the the the the thing we always say like, yes, that gives us an idea where people are at and it's so funny how many headlines I see from the media being like a man like now like trump's trump's odds just keep getting lower and lower and lower like how can he save this sinking ship stop writing shit like that because it has an effect on people to really think that they're like, oh, it's over it's done. It's yeah. President other like Senile Guy No. People slow got to pull up and vote. Because that is really Tough. God. Can. You imagine some fucking lame turn out again and Ready for it. There's that there's also the fact that the media still has at least one maybe two more new cycles that they have to do where it's like is trump staging. A comeback is Biden in trouble like that's the only way to keep this story interesting. Yeah. So they didn't they should just be like saying trump's in trouble the whole time. Yeah. I just get emotional and I think. Subject Mike. Dewine. The governor of Ohio Republican gotten very positive feedback for his performance during the pandemic. Yeah. Because he's been extremely aggressive when it comes to how he deals with the pandemic, he just tested positive for covid nineteen. So he was supposed to meet with the President El Presidente at point fairly soon and that that had to be canceled. Hopefully. Yeah I mean. I had to do you know by my house Louie Gohmert doing I looked into that he apparently he's a symptomatic although his daughter had a lot to say on social media like my dad's an idiot, please just don't really. Yeah she's like A. Great Trend, the, conway daughter, the Louis Gaz daughter she and but she doesn't even go by her and Silica stage name that she goes by and there's like some lyric apparently one of the song she had written recently she's like you do everything wrong and still get away with it. You're just like my father was like one. Of these people were like writing it up and like. The smoke for her dad. So we issue a country singer or something I have no idea I mean she had one like whimsical name. So I mean she maybe she's doing like A. Bit of a like multi-talented thing on I just want to pull up her name because it was something. It's that she goes by Carolina. Brooks. But she's actually Caroline Gohmert and bell saint is the other one so. Got It. Senior writer man country. That sounds like a good country bell saint. It's got the it was kind of alternate. Apparently, she considers alternative Indie Wow. Look at her let's Talk Nba Shit Ben Simmons out indefinitely for the four my Philadelphia Seventy sixers. Just a very like mysterious suddenly he was limping injury. Sixers don't look great but they're now to in one inside the bubble. The, the one loss came at the hands of the Pacers who have. I. Always, this is one of my favorite things that happened in sports when a dude just goes like full Robert Redford and the natural just like comes out of nowhere and just like playing out of his mind. So this Guy Tj Ward who's like. It's like his sixth season in the League. He's always been like somebody who likes scores in the teens. He's just a wing player. He's fine and then out of nowhere first game in the bubble, he dropped fifty four on the sixers and I was like well, defense looks a little suspect but he's been like putting up thirty every game. Let's. That was like that sort of answered my cousin because I'm always curious I'm like you know for some. Like. Type, playing your game in that atmosphere might actually help you tremendously I'm curious if like we do just see like bubble freaks come out and TJ ward row. You Warren. Warren. I Apologize. Yeah. One thing they're seeing them a is that like defense is actually worse Like the just people's performances on defense, and that actually makes sense when you think about the fact that first of all like offense is all about execution and also it just like has its own natural inherent reward of seeing the ball go through the hoop right. Whereas defense like I can totally see like people needing the crowd to get like amped up to play defense because it's all about like hustle and effort So that's something to kind of keep an eye on. Team is averaging under a hundred points other than your. Los. Angeles Lakers well, you know. We already. People are like dude like Selah everybody in a fucking Tupperware put Lebron idiots upper wear and doesn't open put them in a bubble with a bubble and let's just get to the postseason like unless it's get there but you know Either way it's there's something to watch at least that isn't me watching like another know terrible hallmark Christmas. Film in the middle of August. Yeah I am enjoying it more than I think I've ever enjoyed NBA basketball. So I might be a tiger effect where I'm like this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. But I don't know if that's just you know a core brain or if if I mean the level play is not bad. It's not like one concern Heddon in was are they going to be out of shape? Is this just going to be like there's that strike shortened season that happened in the early nineties that was like kind of bad. I think it was also also lined up with the moving three point line in so it just was bad the whole year. anyways Mulan Tenant those are both trending because Disney is coming out and you know trolling the this is something they've been known to do in the past with their release schedule. So the only two big budget blockbusters that were very close to release at when the country shutdown. Were Milan and tenant and tenant has scheduled Labor Day for their release of in theaters they're hoping theaters are open they're going to limited release if it plays well, they'll expand its a lot of in there but you know nobody's expecting things to go smoothly. It is the pandemic So you know they get to be underdogs all that stuff even though. They're two hundred, million dollar movie. Well, Disney was like, yes. So we have the other big blockbuster that is just ready to roll and sitting in our burning a hole in our pocket Milan we're going to release it on Disney plus that same weekend. So even though it would be easy and probably get more eyeballs on it if they released between. Any time between now and when it comes out there like Nah Fuck your tenant. This full because some of y'all got kids right and you really gonNa try and try and get to a movie theater right now we're putting on streaming at home. Yeah, HA welcome. Yeah. Well, Giresse new world that yeah that part. That part. An interesting, a geeky entertainment story That's the only way they can get excited. There's like. We get some competition going right been Cameron Diaz is trending because she had a conversation with Gwyneth, paltrow about why? Vaccines are dangerous. So Why even hired acting? Yes yes. Yeah I mean it makes sense. It's sort of like you don't have time with. Like they're they're your onset all the time, and then you have to do marketing stuff, and then you gotta go the Golden Globes and this that the other. So I think. It just seemed like she was like I want to live a normal human life. Yeah. Rather than being battered around by the industry she called it. Infanta leising is seems like a very kind of aware. Way To. Describe the life of a celebrity. People treating me like I needed everything done for me yet cameron who's your therapist because serious like that realization it's almost like cameron from what you're saying like you're you're regressing into an almost infanta last point, right? Anyway shot to her. She's a new mother and all right her and Benji? Madden. Right which. Was Charlie. Brad Charlotte. anyways shadow tabet did for them. With. With Richie, they're still together. I was GONNA say. All. Right. Guys, that's what's trending this afternoon. We hope you guys are staying home stand save washing your hands wear masks. 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Cameron Diaz and Katherine Power: Co-founders of Avaline Wine | #ThePlaybook 279

The Playbook

25:04 min | 9 months ago

Cameron Diaz and Katherine Power: Co-founders of Avaline Wine | #ThePlaybook 279

"On this episode of the playbook, I have Cameron Diaz and Catherine power, the coup founders of Abilene wine and we're GONNA. Talk about how to partners can find the superpowers in each other and what a traditional wine brands are missing when communicating with younger consumers. Join me for all of this in more on the playbook. This is entrepreneurs the playbook. Each week, I bring you some of the greatest athletes, celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field and in the boardroom. I'm your host David Meltzer. This Day meltzer with entrepreneurs the playbook in. I am so excited I have two wonderful co boundaries of Abilene wine may no one of them? That's right. Capital. Catherine. Powers this year he's one of the CO founders with her less known partner Cambodia's welcome to the playbook. Thank you David thanks for having us. Guys are awesome. Well, I love having entrepreneurs who. Have No reason to be an entrepreneur. And you know 'cause to me being an entrepreneur, almost my entire career after law school I. Think about people who are hyper successful what they do like, why would you torture yourself? So my first question to both of you is you know it's hard enough to be on why are you torturing yourself by creating business? I look at it as sort of an a creative endeavor actually. So I think that that's why Katherine and I matched up. So well as because you know I think that we both at this opportunity in this white space as an opportunity to do something really fun with our friends and I'm just I'm along for the ride day. But like I did a master class with Catherine who obviously has two very successful or three very successful. Ventures. Already, she has who what? Where I clean scandal skincare line She has her click media. You know she's a she's a boss. So I just kind of learned from her and and took a master course as we went along and learned so much from her but I think we just really did it because we were having a good time doing it which I think is really important. Yeah I often ask. Businesses start from personal made. So you know everything that I've developed that that has turned into a success is something that I needed personally and then was able to see that others needed that as well as just about having follow through will kind of bring that to market and bring that to life and you know I think. This partnership has been so great because Cameron and I. Just, so passionate about this mission, which is really to champion a new standard in wine and wine drinking We learned so much over the last couple of years as wine consumers in students of this craft and. We we felt compelled to share that with. The world and to offer a solution. And that's really what led us to create offline. You know I spend all of my time focused on this millennial and Gen Z. Consumer and saw her habits changing quite a bit when it came to. You know wellness from trading in groceries for organic has hold products, skin care personal care, and Cameron you know who outside of her career in film? Has, written, two books on the body. She's very deep into the wellness space and we were just sitting there honestly drinking wine and we started to think about like God. There's no ingredients on this label are these is this just grapes like wait? Are they organic because everything we put in our bodies organic nascar of what started it cameras such a curious very detail oriented person that you know we just kind of Lake set her loose on that and and I sat up the the the sort of infrastructure that would ultimately become the offering business and we went through it day to day together, just really learning and figuring it out. Some. Interesting. One thing about adding a need and being creative Villian idea it's also a danger I work with so many different. Will come to me with a great idea and it is I will tell you see so many great ideas. But what makes you bow? So unique is the ability you mentioned the word follow through and it's really execute people love the actor and kind of picked up on the back that you will the boss like your situational knowledge experience. I'm sure the dummy tax paid in order to silicate so many successes, and once you've been able to have walls through. Successive great idea enhances immensely exponentially in fact, I believe. Good ideas with great entrepreneurs like you cap him. Will be successful then you combine what I call a bud light. I'm blessed to have all been quarterback. By partner, Iran be Steinberg the sports agency and I really elevated or escalated the products and services that we work with by using this bug light and people think it's easy to attract someone like cameron to your product service back we all know how many. Alcohol it came. Just endorsed by product it Kim Kardashian hosted by post I would be a billionaire it's really not that simple. More importantly come on what are the Skills and the knowledge at outdoor. That attracted you because obviously the only opportunities to endorse into partner multiple people what were some of those skills and capabilities that you saw in Contra? Well, you know. It is funny. It's not an endorser I don't really do endorsements I haven't really had any I've always just sold my own product which was movies for the longest time and then books that I did and then this product is you know because it's Catherine and wind together she didn't bring me onto it. It was really borne completely out of our the two of US connecting on something and then finding that we were both passionate about it because you know it's it's one of those things and I think that this is what Katherine so wonderful at is that she does. She sees not only was it just a personal need for us but her her experiences, an entrepreneur went wait a second. Nobody's thinking about this right now you know nobody's addressing this exact. For this exact consumer and we should we should be us because we really understand as consumer with what I bring to the table with what she brings to the table. We both understood who this consumer was and she had this tools toolbox that she's been Really. You know collecting these tools and and. Upgrading them as weak, she's gone with her career and really making use of you know all of the technologies engagement and you know the community driven aspects of her her her other you know businesses. I just saw how Hedin lockton she was to those communities and how fantastic it was and how she as she as a consumer but her as an entrepreneur, she really really cared about the products that she was bringing her Her consumers and you can look at them. They're not you know. They're so inclusive who, what, where is a zero to plus plus size you know affordable clothing at target totally accessible for all women, all shapes and sizes really beautiful trendy designs that women want but can't afford otherwise. She her skin care line is you know her her no ingredients list is like you know. More than is usually what is on the list of for everybody else's you know products that are going to market and they do it. They're they're create they're taking care of the issues with that's needed in the skin care, but it's clean and it's affordable at a drugstore price. So when you look at somebody who? Goes after or wants to provide for a large swath consumers in his non-exclusive and wants to be inclusive for me. That's like everything I don't want to be exclusive. I don't WanNa tell I don't WanNA create a product that's only for one person I want it to be for everyone So that was really where I think we kind of are the spirit was part of the spirit of this so that we every conversation we were talking about, how can we make this inclusive? How can we create a community around this product that people are going to understand it's for them and it's there's Believe it, is. Affordable. Cabinet it's interesting to you know it's always remarkable. Not Cure like you where huge companies billion, dollar industry, how do they miss you know having? Know, it seems to me cbd they have tried to. Infuse. Every single product and seeing opposites spilled was samples of people try and. I give thank goodness I get you Kinda all the time as well. Some great celebrities endorsing boxing wind had Dan ackroyd with this. Great. But it's When? I sit there and think come on youtube or a glass of wine in somehow you figure figured out nobody has organic wine in. This extraordinary idea. Yes I mean I think. There are organic wines out there right are organic vineyards and I think the disconnect has been around Parenti and the connection and understanding of the consumer. So when we set out on this journey, we did not know about why did not know about the winemaking process where the first to admit that but you know what we've lack in expertise in that area we we know the consumer we know the consumer really well, and I think that you know traditional wind bran have not been able to keep up with this consumer in the way that you know a lot of other categories of business frankly have like beauty or fashion. and. So we saw that as a real opportunity because it's not you know just something where you can go hire a big consulting firm out to help you figure it out. It starts you know you have to integrate it into your culture on this idea of having this always on conversation with your community having one on one conversations with them to truly understand their needs. I mean something as simple as you know the when we went to create offline, which you is clean, a wine made from organic grapes with no added sugars colors concentrates says you know it is often added to to commercial line You know we did a big research project around the onset from. Online surveys to shop alongs at retailers, focus groups and something simple that we understood was that the consumer, this modern consumer who's spending the majority of money around wine and continues to become the biggest part of the market. Is really looking for different things than that on the label than what the tradition, why brands are giving her. So you know she's she doesn't need to know that you know the vintage or that on. You know about tear are she really wants to know is this made from organic grapes you know is it doesn't have any headed sugar she wants to know does it fit in with her lifestyle? Is this a brand I can connect with and? I. Think Aesthetically. When you look at our brand, oddly you'll see the difference in how we're speaking to the consumer. So. That that's really I, think where the disconnect was for the industry. Have such great. These Muslims do what I call owning the customer on the companies I looked verd- heart is yours are. Really own that community and every time you have answered specific to community your. Customer and both of you through the various careers in successes you've had that audience synergistic but yet you know partner. Whole rate saying about partnerships outdoor always told me a rules of partnership. No one ever going to a partnership to if you WANNA partner to make sure your partner has more than you. Don't listen to rule letter to go back to rule number. I feel the energy tween you to yacht really sometimes what you? Almost, feel the tension between the two partners that are the symbiotic synergy in supplemental thoughts that you're having and Co Promotion I. Love The back when I asked capital questions do promoting cameron. Captured. Like. A marriage is a purpose. For advice with the entrepreneurs out there, what are some of either the mindset or the challenges with any partnership eating when you to look you know circles at it together you know what are some of the great as you can give for that mindset? I. Think you know first of all, having a partner is so much better than not having a partner. You if you can find your match you. I. Guess like marriage right so you know it is much easier and much more fun to a lot of this together the good times the bad times I've had a very successful partnership with a co founder in who what wear over the last fourteen years who incidentally has a birthday one day away from Cameron's I don't think it's a coincidence. To work with Virgo. I think the key really when it comes to partnership is being aligned on the mission, but having a very different skill set so. You know what Cameron is really strong at. which is you know that the actual process of the winemaking she's a great. You know educator in a great student. She's incredibly detail oriented. She gets granular she doesn't miss a single thing. The storytelling telling you know obviously she's. You know everyone loves a lovable person where I'm kind of like, okay. What's The gross margin? How can we improve at end? What's the cheapest way to get the product even the United States so it's it's very different skill sets yet were very aligned on this mission to to bring cleaner wine out into the world. Reunite. Business are. People kind of overlooked how involved educated. Like Syria like he is my mask. Or Milanese Majesty of columnist lessons because to be the best in the world is something you know not to suck up to year one of the greatest actors of all time lear you're the bath and. Over. This. Count it. Right. It's like when Brad Pitt was on Letterman and you're so good looking that's why you're successful and Brad Pitt said you'll be good looking people there are in the world I'm an actor. I find is people have. Is. Spirit of excellence, which obviously captured is proven announcer northern world that it really carries over into every single thing that they did that they're hyper de Ville that the kid sleep at night because they have to get all. What I call a commentator that you must be what you can't be What do you find is your most complementaries said to Catherine's obviously ill experience. Knowledge he has in owning this community in distributing it to. I think that we both have the same mindset. That, there's never a problem. There's always a solution. Whatever challenges? And we came up against when we when we say we knew nothing about this. Process and the alcohol industry of you have any knowledge of how the alcohol industry works. It's very, very challenging. There's all you come up against a lot of regulations on a federal level on a state level and so we. Really kind of learned as we went, we took meetings with every person who would sit down with us whether they were in the wine or the spirit world and We really just tried to understand how to bring this product to market, and there was a lot of challenges and we continue to go through fine newlyweds I can I can't even imagine how there's more. There are. But took him right or each every time we just gotta go. Okay. So how are we GONNA? How are we going to make this work and we I think we have respect for one another's instincts. We both have the same instincts. There's never a time. I can't think of a time where you know I we tried to overrule one another with our year. What we thought was the right. Thing to do, we can always see each other side and I respect so much her experience and her her gut, and I think she respects mine and so we are always talking about these things as a solution. There's no ego involved. There is no like I to be right in this. It's like what's the best thing off lane? Do we this work and what is it that we both have to understand? New to both of us, and then for me, a lot of times was to just go like to Virtue Catherine's experiences an entrepreneur to say you know what what should what's the best result? How do we get the best result What do we do for the best outcome and? You know that's just get to learn where I just get to go like, oh, I understand and. Watch her do her her magic So I don't have any ego and this I don't really have to be where you know I I don't know I'm just trying to you know I think also like when we went on our trip to Europe You know I'm sort of like the logistics person you know Catherine's like we get there. You know it's like I'm a logistics person and she's like the you know the scheduling this is what we're going to do. This is how we're GonNa do it, and then I this is how we're going to get there and then when we're there fairly carrying my bag city airport to get the door. Is Unlike. I was. kind of like a pack mule. Am I gave Riggan Sherpa I can just carry as many bags. It doesn't matter. It's like if there's thirty I gotTA. Bag is I'm I'm like your time. Bring me bags I know these are just like we're in Europe for like four days and we've just got what we can throw on our bag but we did EasyJet EasyJet was not easy at all. Tournament Hall we run across like but entire airports plus get through security plus run fourteen gates. It was just like almost barely made our flight but. That's being said We you know when we're act the vineyards and were there with you know our our potential partners. Are you know I'm like she that I'm connecting with the the soil with the great. So the farming and the forming process and the winemaking process, and you know the storage and the cavs and all of the things that you know the wine itself, the process of it and she's going. Okay. So. What's your acceler? Get to that, what is include all the things that were she needs and then and literally just doing the math wherever we're at I'm going we gotta get on this freeway. We gotta get on that how we got to take this exit. She's like on the back of an envelope like doing like four. So but we need to do is or like north. Exactly, you know so. We're we're we're getting. We're both getting US their. Way. Different skill sets you know. So this bit to finish up I would be missing ask. Your Best Worl of Ice Catherine, I was great successes could share especially three teenage daughters that I love more as a female perspective is vying with me. You're speaking to buy three teenage daughters. What advice would you give out your vice and then Kevin will finish with you? Yeah. I, mean I think you know find something you love to do and then figure out a way to get paid for it. So I think when you when you come at it from that direction you you will be set up for a very fulfilling career. I think that's the perfect advice. Honestly I would give that same advice. You should never feel like you're working in should never feel like you're getting paid for what you love. You'll never feel like you're working. So when I'm making a movie, I'm not getting paid to act I'll spend months on end working doing. Twelve hour days, eighteen hour days. But what they pay me for is the press. Naming a lot of money to do that press. Daily. Hubadoo that. My Activities I get paid or an activity I don't learn to love because you both extraordinary success and I've been blessed as Wyoming I think my biggest minds lasting is the ability to find the light, the love and the lessons that sock that exists in everybody's careers. So you you and I both know that they look where you have been single. Oh I want to be catherine I want to be Dave I WANNA be in, but they don't realize how much all the same percentage of sock exists in our lives is really good at finding the light love and the lessons and figuring out how to get as much activity get paid for as we can. Yes. That's why. Find that balance you know making the movies is the joy. The is the hard part in this so far you know we've I think the joy has been to have a finished product and had received by our community that we made it for and have them really appreciate it. You know. And know that we made it for them and we understood them and we took the time to create this for them because it didn't exist before in this way are the way that we're giving it to them. The way that we are speaking to them they understand and that's very gratifying. ADS available in over forty three days. Think now. So they go out, grab it, give it a try closed his goods eastern extraordinary people. You can't go wrong and it's avoidable by the way I believe wind. Thank you Cameron. Thank you Catherine. Supply. His. Bouncer. Entrepreneur. By, hope you enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note I, just wanted to thank everyone for making the playbook such a success. 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The Holiday With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Kari Simmons

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The Holiday With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Kari Simmons

"When the Santa Anna's blow all bets are off anything can happen in Washington this spring miles on finding love can be complicated complicated? I'm leaving and nine days. Losing yourself in it. I'm in love with you can be wonderful from the director of something's gotTa give the holiday on. Dvd Blu Ray March thirteenth through obstacles. I'm Julie I live in. I'm joined by Amanda the Dobbins. Hello and making her re watchable debut the One and only carry him and everybody Kerry welcome. Thank you you'll truly. This is my favorite movie movie of all time really of all time. Come okay. I'm done. Harry met Sally Right Below. Sure you've so you put the holiday. But when Harry met Sally in two thousand and six yes yes it did okay. So what is it about the movie that use love so much I always loved holiday can share in love. There's also sadness And this has both in happy. Ending always helps. But I think it's the way it flows in the music. The music is very every moment it together. You feel like you're you're sucked into like when Kate winslet is in the newsroom and it gets really sad and you know everybody's these are breaking down. You know you could just see her breakdown about to happen in the music makes that happen well. The music essential part as Jack Black Jack Black's character and at Burns's characters are both movie score composers which I really enjoy and we'll discuss more but I think that's attention to your point. The music is very important. I mean it's about ten minutes into the movie where we get the first mention of Enrico more. Yeah any more which Jack Black says a like a weird Italian accent. I Love Nancy Myers movies. This is probably my favorite. Nancy Meyers movie. It's it's because of everything that was it but I I love them all she's also John I mean you know as good as it gets Something's gotTa Give It's complicated the parent trap. What else oh father of the bride she wrote does she wrote? Andrew acted this. She has like twenty writing credits and then seven movies. She's written and directed the intern. Which I also love I love the house. They asked all of her house. So now fires houses are icon ick. Yes these we're going to talk about it. This is not my favorite. Nancy Meyers movie. which is just a way of saying that Nancy Meyers is really really important to me and I have? I just have an investment in a lot of her films but the thing that I like about this Nancy Meyers movie is that it's literally about the houses they are honestly literally exchanging houses in the houses are their characters and our major focus. And you know it's become kind of a running joke doc that you watch. Nancy Meyers movies like the kitchens. By the way it's not just the kitchen. She has an amazing I for details throughout the home and often landscaping experience experience. Check out the landscaping and it's complicated stuff. Why but I do? You liked it. This literal is is it. Yeah I also. It doesn't funny because I think it's like two of the worst kitchens in the Nancy buyers. What we're going to have to talk about the decor? It's it's great. We'll get into it this six in between something's gotTa give two thousand three the and it's complicated in two thousand nine And just absolutely all-star cast just absolutely star Cameron the editor. Kate winslet Jude Law. Jack Black Cameos from Ed Burns Lindsay Lohan. James Franco John Krasinski. Kathryn Hahn and dust office. Absolutely it's kind of in that way almost put Nancy Meyers movies into different stratosphere. I feel they became more star studded with this movie and since then it's complicated it had Alec Baldwin Meryl Streep and seed Martin and John Quincy yes and then The intern had Anne hathaway Robert. Deniro I feel like she leveled up with the holiday. Yeah it's a perfect storm of where movies are in this particular moment like they're still making Rom coms in two thousand six and most of them. I don't know Carrie. What's your favorite? The era of romantic comedy. Do you have one. I don't know I feel like I've probably like in the ninety S I. I don't want to speak for Giuliani but I think we agree that it's like from when Harry met Sally through all of the Nora Ephron ones and you know you're my best friend's wedding gets thrown in which actually Juliette hates. But I really like I'm talking. I like it. We'll be live for weddings and a funeral on ninety four. Thank you that is one of my justice reform. No no one else on the staff will do that. We Watch. He's the best I mean. I said he met and I was thinking of few sure. Fresher Curtis is the best to read all that happens and then like the two thousands. When you get into the Kate Hudson era or Jessica Parker era with all respect to both of those actresses like not as great and so this one comes through in two thousand six and still can? There's so making those movies so they can get major actors. But it's also in comparison so much better hyphen. Everything's being is being released at the time. I think that's a good point when you get to the two thousands. The formula is so familiar to us and there's a lot of like just offensive offensive tropes in the early two thousands Rom coms and actually when she was doing press for this movie. They weren't really hard on pressing the UK. It seems like for the holidays all day unless Oh in the. US It's kind of weird but she didn't want to interview with coming soon dot net and they ask ask. Anthony Myers. which remains a romantic comedies? Do you think that you can ever Tampa at the conventions or do you know in the beginning. We need the characters that you'd better have them walk away hand in hand in the end and this is rude question which she handled really wonderfully by saying I like when they end up together but there are conventions in every genre as you know when you go to see James the James Bond movie you appreciate. He's GonNa be alive in the end. They are conventions every genre. It's just how well you do it. You try not to leave a trail you try I to be inventive with it and that is a really condescending question to someone who's Bread and butter butter is Ri- is Rom coms and the reason why she's so good asking you doesn't really deft hand with how she like. reinvents it each time and everything and I thought that was a really good number obvious with her feel well. It's obvious but it's like such a cliche ashamed. But how they get to. The end is really fun and pleasant and enjoyable and distinct like she has her own style weaves into the genre and I just I. Oh I think actually astonishing. How many rude questions she gets like that that are just like why Rom coms or like what is it about Cameron Diaz? And she's like she's really pretty but and you could just sort of talent I think in this press store. She was kind of sick of it and she just sort of like just kind of like taking names and giving her the answers and It's kind of funny one thing. I really like about this movie as well. And it is into the idea of the genre and there by the way every genre has a very set formula. And you know what's going to happen. What does your department of course and then it's kind of it's an eye you had the template allows you to kind of go in different directions and one of the things in the holidays and I had forgotten this? Watch it. It's a lot about like how the movie industry were. Yeah especially between Jack's character and Kate winslet's and the Arthur character who I love who has just given a lot of speeches about like box office numbers and you know how it used to work in the old days. But it's interesting 'cause it's like it's Nancy Meyers working through a lot of those assumptions and all of the the the kind of attitude that surfaces in those interviews like in real time in the least in the movie itself. It's pretty interesting nine movies. He's a Rhode Today. I remember what nine movies would open a month now. A picture has to make a killing first weekend. Or they're dead. This is supposed to be conducive to great work. Yeah I think another thing about her. That's cool is that like doctors like Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino are often referenced. Wrote working at the same group of actors over and over again and it really does too and I I really like it like Lindsay Lohan. James Franco end up in this movie because Lindsay Z.. Lo Han And she worked together on the parent traffic. She's like called in a favor to Lindsay Lohan. She was like I'm on board and then jonker since e and is like Repeat Repeat Nancy Meyers offender and she was like she cycles through a lot of the same people in Iowa. I always liked that in director when they have the kind of like the reps that they work with who else does like with all the stars and one movie this well. It's it's hard to make a cast. That's this big everyone. Everyone was at the height of their careers during this right totally and also usually a bomb when movies like were they do like the ensemble saying he's just not that into you or the love actually which we should talk about a little because I think it comes if years before this movie but it's like you can get everyone famous for like three scenes right and then they all come together at the end and this comes together at the end but it's like two separate story really fully based yeah mostly as baked as you wouldn't around com romantic plotlines and like four real characters does seem like basically there's to release. They're not particularly connected outside of the houses. The themes aren't even then like that deeply tied is kind of weird and then the weirdest the weirdest part is how the fake trailers the trailer voice only appear in cameras. Whistler and Karen Cameron Diaz is story. Yes I find that really odd. I do wonder did she write two separate movies among splice them together in in interviews she made it seem like she did not do that. Scher director's commentary. No I didn't listen. No she didn't. She didn't say that she did that. It's just it's I was just curious if you listened because there were some little nuggets that maybe as we go along I can like them. I'm an just telling us telling you like where some of the homes were. Yeah no she didn't say anything about that though interplay please much director's commentaries. Okay okay okay. Okay Sri into the categories. Let's do it most watchable seen I would say there's quite a few options and also many extended scenes. I I think the most obvious nominee which I know Amanda certainly hated. Is the video store seeing. I kind of didn't love that either so it's not watchable. That's where I thought we Jack Locks in the movie where he and Kate winslet are at blockbuster it looks like we're on the west side and the he's explaining Movies to her based on their scores essentially and then Dustin Hoffman is in the same row as them and he's like a very annoyed it. Have you gone Jodie Marsh. A bet you didn't know it was all written for the movie was a score technically. I can't conclude this one. You have to check your explaining the movie scores. That does really glossed over Josh Jackson. which is that? He's singing them. He's doing badly that no other human has ever made before upgrade. Oh Great. It was rudely. Didn't Dudin screws. Gruden didn't Sassa Zeta. I'm GonNa wait till it got pretty weighing okay. I was just thinking like if I were on that date or like not quite date yet. I would be just like driven. Have you like this is an absolute icon exceeded the movie nonetheless. Okay but I know likes it. GRANDMA AMANDA Jude Law. Aw and Cameron Diaz is first morning after so Amanda I just listen. You don't have to worry about a thing here. Okay okay. I mean it was great meeting you and everything definitely also for the record. You're ex-boyfriend is in my opinion extremely mistaken about you. Well yeah you drunk nor drunk. uh-huh about I think Cameron Diaz absolute absolutely shines in that she does she a little bit awkward and I absolutely love it yeah. Let's her do the screw thing. which is which is what? She's good at yes. I found the the the the cadence of their banter a little bit odd in that scene though I felt like she was always trying to like not Baotou into him and they asked like she wasn't too into him and I feel like I've been in that position before sure we're like you've been attracted someone really like them but you don't want them to know because because then they might give too much. They might not like you or reject you and I felt like that was her her role in this whole thing like I know it was her not being like like getting jolted and then having to share get back with WANNA jump right. Some detention in that for me is that Cameron Diaz is power is actually in that very physical Kinda goofy yeah. She's like an extraordinarily beautiful person. Who then is sort of silly in her humor humor and when she's supposed to be playing like a very together control-freak type type of person? I don't know that's not what I associate with. Funny Cameron Diaz us so when they finally let her let her let loose and be weird and it's like feel slightly more natural. Sure I think I think also. It's just so uncomfortable. Because did you lost so hot so she really becomes. He's wearing his glasses which pop up throughout the movie and it's just like glasses ever by the greatest lover. He was kind of early. The plastic glasses in two thousand phillies. Two hundred. Five wasn't a full on worby parker time yet. That's true so shout out to them. It's just like an elephant in the room when I'm watching an elephant in the room or is it just the tax so she uh-huh I appreciate just sort of like how. How is this real like how? So how is this guy actually real. I mean it's just an incredible. I'd really a magic. He's so handsome comes out of nowhere door in the middle of the night. And all of a sudden you're having sex with this you don't know with the death she doesn't know yet but just like absolutely just overwhelming autism. The movie distraction every scene. He's in I think I think that one. I I particularly like because They're operating on different frequencies really like she awkwardness. Yeah I think I love a good story. You know like like that so I think it's a great Dane Some other nominees. This scene where she finally goes to jude. Law's cameras goes through loss house and Soon finds out that Sofi Anna Livia are his daughters and not other women. You won the daughters really shine through one. They care to cutest little. I mean they couldn't have found two more beautiful little kids British. It really does show if you did see we could push skimmer it also they. They call both of them out on. Thanks which kids really true-to-life. They seem. They seem a little bit too. Well adjusted for having. Their mother just have died a year ago. Yeah they did. Yeah that's in my nitpicks action. If I I just want to have this scene. Written Down Jude Law's Adad. Which Kinda sums up the appeal when he's doing the Glass Nascar Fan lower than that so so high yeah? You're so nice to his two daughters. I was just like okay. This was crafted in a lab to be able to a certain person. That person's made all women. I know it's really. It's just like every single primal signal that it can send is sending house like this incredible and he also has a really nice house even you see him like in his own the environment. Yeah it's even it's even more like Holy Shit this guy i. I can't believe it are any of other scenes between Jack Black and Kate winslet and Eli Wallach even worth mentioning. I like this scene when Kate winslet IRIS IRIS PICKS UP Arthur Arthur to go to the W. and then his little w j just say it's sweet. I like when she helps them in the pool when he's the only had to walk but that part of the movie dinner scene which one with. It's like all of his other. The Hanukkah who are slum love agreed Hannukah meal is a great eight hundred a meal. I actually I like that plotline. Perhaps more than other plotlines that he's a part of I'm defending. I'm defending that. I had that the the last thing on awesome. It gives her the last time. I had a date. This is what we do. So if it's going it's going to ruin your own. You don't have to wait. I Gone I'm looking for Corny in my life. Yeah Lady I know it's so fast I was like a real. La Story to befriend your taber sweet person event of any age. Or you know wherever they're from very sweet but I don't know that you can't. You can't contend with that you'd like Cameron Diaz in my opinion what about the scene when Cameron Diaz as driving to the town. Oh she's like so scared that just GonNa hit all the car and then she liked comes uh-huh around that corner and the downtown in like just misses hitting Jude Law on the bike and pulls right in front of the little grocery store and then she's drinking the wine and my favorite funny. I had camera alone in the cottage when she's just like trying to figure out what to do and is swinging the wide instead instead of beanie hat on the bed yeah yeah just Solo Solo. Funny Cameron Diaz. I think as I was watching Cameron Diaz moves and they came out. I didn't appreciate her for being a great comedian physically and and otherwise but she really is like a great comedic actress. And I WANNA make sense if you look at her movies. The mask something about Mary Mary. My best friend's wedding. I mean body comedy. Yes she is. She like owns her height in a way that gives to her comedy right through. Hello well. It's just unfair that now you can just wear those long coats and make them look like those bragging on the floor to me. I know but like she made his coats hosts look good. She did that very very thousand five also very west side of La. Yes yes. Yeah you're right definitely going to a type that I recognize now that I live here. Yes yes absolutely. And I believe that Myers was in Brentwood where Her house is supposed to be media south so it all makes sense all right. It's a carrier going with that kennedy-esque yes driving. Yeah Amanda do bad issued Lock Cameron Diaz morning after great so we all we all agreed it's Jude Law and Cameron Diaz movie movie next. What's the best? So I think we have to just began talking about exchange dot com says. Your hair I think you could make the case for both best and worst but I'm going best on this one. The concept of just living someone else's home was not mainstream. It you can baby. You would like rent for two weeks. Yes that would happen but then it's just a thing that people do on a whim which the timeline in this movie is something I'd like to discuss. That's later on but is totally validated by the last five years absolutely and also it is as seamless now as they made. It seem you show and you go in and you see what you find and your other really excited or really bummed out. You're like fuck. I should have picked a hotel but it really does age it does. I was pretty impressed. Los Angeles at Christmas. I think truly underrated times to be in Los Angeles an absolutely wonderful time here and it looked great in the movie it did they did that. Justice isn't like I think people understand how quiet again and how it's like. There's no traffic when she pulled on. This is going to be a nit-pick for later. But when she pulled onto sunset off of the P. C. H.. From here our you know you just you got that VI- no cars were around. And it was a happy and they were playing of course Christmas music. Yeah but it is kind of Nice to get to wear a coat at night and feel chilly and then like the warm sun during the a day and sell listen to Christmas. Music December. Great Time visit Los Angeles. She made a good choice but also as the best celebrating the art of movie trailers. Yes I feel like in two thousand six. We were still making the corny movie trailers the voice over as evidenced in cameras trailer work but the movie does show that there's an art to it and now we spend all our time just talking about how great trailers are and literally. The ringer did a trailer racket about the best trailers of the decade. This ruby in two thousand six new. The trailers were imported. There's also that great moment where she's watching the Lindsay Lohan Ron. I think yes little little o'hanlon where she was like. Yup that's seems like a good movie and that's why the big box and it's like yeah like you can do a lot of work through a good trailer to mask. The fact that a movie socks yes and I like that was sort of like the cynical. All side of the movie appreciation comes through that funny line when she's I think she's with Catherine hot and John Coogan John Krasinski and she's like now looks like a hit. Yeah Make It red. It's it's a really good point. Yeah it's like very invested in in the changing landscape and like athlete. The right moment probably in two thousand six I also like while while they're invested musical scores. I did think the score was very lovely. That's that was mine. I was about to say like. That's what age the best. Yeah that Hans Zimmer. Yeah he makes a lot of good scores really does but then they added like the white stripes when she's like dancing on the bed and they had like I don't know there was like James Taylor Yeah Merry Little Christmas and I mean every saw. Every Christmas song was raised kind of cute up perfect. Yeah they have. The Phil Spector album and they do. There's a well I guess you send me an referring cover which is not Chris Music. It has good taste in music as well as the score I agree. I picked up Zoe from the train last night and I I had the music on and I wanted to see if she knew what movie it was and she did all right. It's just it's driving me crazy. What is this what is this? I'm like come on give it a second. And I like moved another soundtrack like and whatever and she was she knew. Because it's so funny definitely in Italy a recognizable soundtrack. Yeah and conveys like a feeling that is very Nancy Meyers and very the holiday. What else to handsomeness? Yeah I put that up blasting. It's unbelievable timeless. I also say he. Dresses is very much timeless as well as just like hot guy. It's also hot British guy. It's taught tweeting British guy and if every man we knew started wearing those blazers I think it would be a problem. It just won't happen here and there you have no chance of being attracted to anybody because all the same good. It's at least worth considering England. Did you because you can up your probability of meeting guide a tweed jacket like one hundred over Kroger. Are you taking notes okay too you can get it sure Boston professors maybe go for square by feel like most professors aren't actually hot. But whatever they were they'd be actors like Jude Law consume it really is unreal. Like when I think about this movie which I really love the first thing I think about how hot he isn't in like that's I can't think of another movie that except maybe once time. Hollywood which is quite as defined by one person's hotness. I agree one hundred percent. It's just outrage any. When and I was thinking about who like what made this movie? That's what it is. It's the like I look forward to seeing. You love my boyfriend's from this movie. I fascinating to me though I I understand that July is just objectively hotter than Hugh grant like. I get that I acknowledge that there was room for boats in the world and in my heart but wait he is giving you the same kind of tweedy British appeal. That hugh grant is though less less. He's you grants. France got little or sanded off. Also I like a pretty person like both to Hugh Grant. He's pretty handsome. He is banned. He was I look at him. and I feel like Jude. Law's mine if I've never been interested in new ground. Okay all righty. That's let's you know everyone agree to disagree. I don't know he just just never. I never believed it like a true heart hearthrob. Carry them really. Glad you're here. Thank you for being with me. What isn't a funeral? Hugh grant like the hottest rants ever worked my brain to impressionable age to be quite looseness and four funeral. I well I think that also works right brain. Julie wasn't that's comcast or maybe there'll be session Well I think I think we all agree definitely inches. Yeah Yeah What is the worst? I mean the newspaper the newspaper blockbuster Mr there's also like all the the DVD collection. Yeah the blackberry. See although I will say I really miss my blackberry. My favorite phone I ever had was blackberry curve in two thousand nine. Just an incredible found great communications not good for the inter-napoli who who cares texting email can bring it back. I know I couldn't I couldn't anymore. You you know. So you Smith iphone but I do go blackberry and it was kind of ahead of its time to actually blackberries peach and dozen eight six was slightly early. I had some questions about and how their phones worked internationally though. Yeah they did not seem concerned with international dialing rates like especially in the you know the C was pretty bad right kate. winslet is going between Cameron Diaz and Jude Law and listen. These are all unbelievably wealthy. People who have no concerns for finances evidenced by the fact they live in perfect mansions chains and just fly off on a whim all the time but I did also have thought about the international phone. Call Plan Yeah I. I was confused about that. And that's something that now. It seem less but was certainly not thirteen years ago. I also think One of the best moments was Jack. Black candidate her a handed Kate winslet a Frappuccino from coffee tea leaf and said this is the best drink in town and they're in the blockbuster that was so so funny because I had never been to. La when in this movie came out. And so I only read about coffee and tea leaf and us because Mary Kate Nationally went there all the time and so it was. It's such like a hallmark of two thousand three two thousand four like in the tabloids but I had never actually experienced it and seeing it. Now's was really funny Kinda sad because they're not around as much. I've kind of pulled out of a lot. Yeah I think also like just those drinks people are health conscious now. It'd be like I'm having an in La although the chocolate one is not really the one that they had him she's like he wants to dollops of one. That was sweet Tachilek. That was about it. I was just showing how she doesn't care either. I love that about her character and I've seen like a little more less health J.. That was actually in the Nancy. Meyers commentary. Oh what'd she say. He said they when they judged up her house in it. Cuts walls that they made sure to put like lots of candy and things that you wouldn't see in a lot of women's homes out to make it seem like she was more warm Less of a less caring about being assigned to sure and yeah and I mean. She proved that when she was with all the front beyond that she. I wish I for what's actually the Elliot House is very well. I think that is still a house that you'd be happy to live. Yeah it's in San Marino it's by famous Probably architect Wallace Nath. It's right by Pasadena. Essentially that's the exterior newsy her throwing Cameras throwing talking to Ed Burns when he's outside and she's unlike like the balcony. That's that's the exterior house and it is like a really lovely classic Spanish architecture. La Him I one hundred percent agree with this dream. La Home for me now. May I talked about the decor in terms of the worst. Sure why they're literally. I honest to God. I don't think they're pine cones. I really think that they are dried. artichokes jokes like spray painted in bulls around the exterior interior cameron. Diaz is either. I mean amandas home. I didn't either until the rewatch and I was like the couches. Are once you want. It's it's a little more and maybe this is supposed to reflect the character. It's kind of like office hotel. She he was more stuff sterile. Yeah Yeah exactly. But then there are actual artichokes in bulls in in the home. And I don't know what that is but that's not what I watching the. NC Myers before as really really bad about that. It is kind of weird. It's almost like a the kind of decor you'd find in a pure one but you shouldn't have in your home this year but you but you don't have to else I was just like the inside was kind of other than that. Like in some ways. Unremarkable like you have a lot of built in Zain then at like how much was like nice but it didn't have like a distinct. It wasn't wasn't rich enough it wasn't wasn't didn't have enough like wasn't like luxuria. Yeah it in the House and it's complicated like feels so lived in and and Yeah that's yeah it's amazing Carey. Do they talk about it. All on the director's commentary that it's a set that the interior earier. Yeah the yeah. Yeah they were complaining that I think there was one scene when Kate winslet was the part where she comes into the house and she's so excited and then she goes and jumps on the bed. Yeah and I guess that was her idea to jump on the bed but it was. That scene was supposed to end in the bathroom which they apparently built. Oh God and then they never. And that's got to be a bummer. Right Oh my God. The budget was eighty five million dollars. Which is insane to make worldwide two hundred million okay so back pretty? Well not like gangbusters but I did pretty well for Tom and I just felt like General Cameron Diaz is like the spaces cases in her home. Just didn't really feel remarkable. The England houses so much more memorable staircase. Yeah it's cute calming down the little staircase and you think you're gonNA hit your head like I just like those cozy little places and then there's like a fire little mini fireplace. Yeah it's very true. We are also three people living in La something cozy which is very true. I also thought it was funding. Has she was cameras like wear her like hat and mittens inside. I feel like that is also very. La Things sounds like no places actually very well Heated so you're always cold in. She probably just like us to do that at night and it was. It was pretty funny. In general I think aged twelve. Oh what can I just nominate one metro bomb in the middle of a Jack. Black as romantic address is just not that does not in two thousand in nineteen. That's a great. That's a great like he was having a moment. Maybe I know like school of rock was a thing. Yeah you know that. He was a comedian he was popular. It makes sense. It's like a softer like jude law. And you've got Jack Black. Got Something for everybody but I know in two thousand nineteen. I don't know I don't know what's what's going on. Well this is a great transition into casting. What if okay not a lot of casting? What after this movie because Nancy Meyers insists that she wrote it with Kate? winslet and Cameron Diaz in mind in very early on Jack Black and here's what she had to say about it. I thought he was someone. I'd like to write a poem apart for and I'm aware he's not Clark Gable. He's not tall dark and handsome but he's adorable. He's lovable. It's my way of saying this is the right kind of guy. This is what most guys look like if they're lucky. He sowed horrible and why not everybody has a heart and serves fall in love and he she. You got a great girl so I fixed mode Kate winslet. I think all of that is true. Yeah except UAE or you making him sing weird scores blocked by an error goofy faces. Yeah just the horn off. I liked. This movie is about movies like I'm a nerd. I think that's cool or whatever but when he's just like wandering wandering around singing random scores from like driving miss daisy like no thank you know live eating there is there is the every man and then there is just lower extent. I probably coming off of tenacious. D In School of rock. Maybe maybe a little bit different. I feel yes persona at the time was just a guy who sings in movies and like has the worst thing that's ever been said the little overacting we land like he he's going he's kind of annoying like I. I'd be friends with him. I just wouldn't ever want to kiss him. I wouldn't I just don't see that connect with one point. Mr Watch where. I was rooting for Kate. winslet together with Arthur. Because I'm just like this is an interesting person who's lived a life and who respects you. And who gets you a corsage Josh. And who isn't like all other thing about this character is that he's in like thinks he's in a relationship with some dumb actors for the whole time. Yeah and he only realizes this is the kate. Winslet is the person for him like with five minutes to go in the movie beyond what Kate winslet. Anyone deserves. True it's better than that. It is true although although I like that actress she was in forty days and four. Nine saatsmen yeah. No disrespect to her ashes. Playing apart. Sure I've said my piece I agree. I agree with you but I think that's the point. That's that's how she wanted it. All right. Does it might not track but I think that was the intention. Okay I mean right now. I think that that's true. So you know. That's that's that's where the movie Kinda hits hits. The Wall I the Cameron Diaz Movies Way Out in the Kate winslet movie. But you don't feel that Kate winslet I like it makes you like her more have already invested in her and now she liked. You can tell that she has a thing for Jack in the sometimes when a very pretty free beautiful girl. That's smart and funny lakes the guy that Kinda seems like he has no business dating her. I'd like them. Were yeah that yeah yeah a little four. It's four love it's a share. I think that's really true and let me be clear that my objection to Jack Black is not in any way Jack Black looks like or even that you would date a funny guy but this character is really annoying ink and they don't have any cash. They seem like nice friends. Yeah they seem like people like like she has made some friends in L. A.. And that's nice character who i. I actually think that is very good in the got a great she makes acting within. It's basically like this character is spoke to settle for the friend. She's more totally. That's that's that's my objection with ice. I support it. Okay it could have recast him. Yeah but I had the whole idea of who I thought could. Let's go. I thought maybe Matt Dillon Because he had just this come. I think wasn't deal in question. I he's he's very good looking. Yeah and he was slightly older at the stager Ren he's funny. It was funny in something about. Mary was a jerk though. I know but I feel like it's his chance to not be a jerk. Lazy Rom Com beautiful girls. Yeah great movie right. He could have been that character a little bit but with. I don't know the only thing I might not have bought it and was him playing piano as he doesn't seem to call to me. I think Jason Segel would be perfect. Remake Oh oh also another guy. That's probably not good enough. Good looking enough I maybe under him. Yes I remember saw spot for Jason Segel and also things like dramatic. I feel actually would have been a really good knocked up. I liked that he was knocked up and forgetting right. Sarah Marshall Okay. That's what it was like that character would totally fit. Yeah yeah I I don't know I just I love Jason Segel personal pet PET INTERESTS Like I said there's not a lot of cats this like every every interview is like insisting that she had it with those two in mind uh-huh the two event in that July that then she like wanted to write a character for someone like Jack Black and jude law like she said they had like chase up change some things for him. And the way that both Cameron Diaz and Nancy Meyers talk about Jude Law. Taking on this role is just sort of like the subtext is can jude law. Play a good guy. I like a lot of questions about can. He be appealing and endearing. We're just we're just pretty fighting and I will also say I realize jude law is does not seem like a particularly wonderful human to me. Don't have don't have a lot to base except for The tabloid stories but his various relationships I once saw him at the high with Arc. Light just how rakishly leaning over the counter. You're having a very engaged enthusiastic. Conversation with the staff of the ARC. Light about how the assigned seating work now angry or no. No no this is so I can choose any seat okay. Like a year and a half ago. The movies years I'd Arkley and his pants crop. I just want to let you know oh was like five inches above the ankle was great. It was a turn off. Sorry Craig also crappy. You've got a little July one right thanks. That's really funny. So that make you like more more so much I was just like wow I wanna be a part of this. He because he was just he was there to experience cinema. And Yeah people and was so excited that you can have assigned seats and really confidently confidently rock in that crap. Incredible Ankle. So I'm gonna I kind of talented Mister Ripley book totally. Has He ever not had a confident day in his life. It's like probably not may not that's great. It's just like how he lives his life. See Mary to Sienna Miller. Gi well he would. They never got married okay. They were dating the the scandal. Yeah and I think he has like six kids now like forty four women. Oh Jeez recently remarried. Yeah Yeah and they had like a tasteful age appropriate wedding that I read about in the daily problems age both I think yeah. She's younger though. Essentially Twenty six. I think she can't why what is going on. I did a podcast great. You'd lie but it's not it's not on here is I. Don't think he's great. I just think he's extremely high. That's fair can I say one thing about the casting before go which is just the fact that Nancy Meyers was just like I will write a script for Cameron Diaz Kate Winslet and Jack Black and we'll get them them and I don't even have to worry about not getting them is like that says a lot about her and her power and her authority and like not many directors at all. Get to do that. Let it alone. Women Directors so shadow Nancy Meyers. That's what I have to say. or She's really good at controlling the narrative around movie. Either way either way good job. Yeah 'cause I was was like she really want anyone else answer this question otherwise which I thought was kind of interesting too. Because she didn't say she wrote for Jack Black and jude law which wouldn't let any other names into the conversation. I thought it was pretty fascinating too. All right we're going to move on to the Dion waiters award but first let's talk about the sponsors. The Google assistant is ready to help you get more done with just your voice in the car at home and everywhere you take your phone when you're driving and want to listen to your favorite podcast hands-free just say hey Google Taylor latest episode of the podcast. Sure here's the latest episode of the watch confusion about what the morning show and Apple Agudo Pas the podcast a little help hands-free just say hey google to get started all right. There's so many choices for the dion waiters ward so many people doing a lot in very little the screen time we got Lindsay Lohan. James Franko Kathryn Hahn Jonkers Eddie. Dustin Hoffman it. Should we put you walk in here. I was GONNA say she capacity more roles too big but but you know maybe not. She's not on the movie poster. I if you're not on the movie poster friends at the in the what was. I don't know who she was her friends in the newsroom. Who's just like you need to? Yeah no one is friends with extra cheese. Yeah Yeah Yeah No. That was I don't know who it is either. Is Ed Burns on the list. Oh I forgot admits he is he. That's camera media. I guess I would say he wins it. I love Ed Burns. Yeah I agree with you. I I think he's so great and therefore stars of this movie. Everyone is what question person who comes in because guy for a short time and and just like but even goes off. He's Ettelaat sort of yeah queuing. It has three men in her life because she has rufus sewell. Who is the ex staffer? Jasper I mean. I don't even know wasting I have. I have some nitpicks. Then she's got Arthur and then she's also got Jack Black so they're all doing but Jack Black is billed as is the star right and awhile is not on the poster so that's my new definition for the post eligible for dion waiters is. They're not valid. I mean he is obviously not like the focal point of the movie but he does contribute so much. Yeah I I think I probably would i. I think I was going to have to go with I. I don't know it's hard I mean also does does doesn't often even count. I mean he comes in her. I I mean it's hard because these people are for so short but I don't know I kind of enjoy the low hand also saw spot for her. Okay I'm going Lo Han Carey. I just loved Kathryn. Hahn Yeah so her character's name is Bristol stole incredible and that is such an L. A.. But I I just now I see her and all this other stuff and I'm like God that was such a small all perfect back then but I just liked her her vibe so I I go for her all right. Let's great great. And then there's a lot of worthy candidates and this new. Yeah a lot of small small roles for extremely famous people Apex Mountain. This is really just a contentious conversation. I think we have to we. We have to go through all four stars so also NC Myers and Nancy buyers. Yeah Okay Definitely Cameron Diaz is Apex Mountain Dew. We also do. We need you to define. Yeah because you know this gets argued every single time Craig. Correct me if I'm wrong. Apex down when someone has the most objective power in career. Not like if it's your personal favorite. But if it's the peak of their career like just like the absolute best they're gonNA do both like given the context of the movie movie and the movie itself so with all that in mind. Let's go through the four stars and Nancy Meyers First Up Cameron Diaz. Since two thousand sex I would say this is the very beginning of the slowing down of Cameron the ASS. I agree with that I was going to say no. It's not the apex career. I would put that somewhere between honestly. This is so weird is it. Charlie's angels it's like somewhere. There's something about Mary. And then Charlie's angels Joel's because after Charlie's angels Shida Shrek. She does sky. She does gangs of New York which doesn't turn out well but she's Yeah I think it's earlier yeah. I think so too because to say something about Mary that was was earlier that could be because it's like one she becomes that's saying he comes a thing thing and for her future. Potential is highest at that moment probably and that was a ninety eight eight years past peak India's but I agree with you. I think she hits like a really early high plateau from basic basically. It's something about something about Mary. Through Shrek in two thousand one yeah and then from there she very slowly sort of begins to like now. She says she's retired from acting. And I think it begins. Essentially what this movie where she really slows down and in fact during the press for this movie she talks about how she had gone like moving moving to move you that stopping shopping for a long time and she had reached the point where she didn't want to do that anymore. And you want to know watch out to her. She stopped doing it. Yeah so Cameron Diaz firm now next Jack Block. I think this is Jack Blocks Apex Mountain. Wow it comes right after. I think this is the time. Where he's I do? I the youngest laughing at the idea of this. Actually being the best it gets four Jack Black. I think it does because it's coming in the same range range so school of rock two thousand three and then after that he has King Kong which is like also didn't go great but it was like a big splashy movie because people thought he could carry one he has two nations de sprinkled in there and then he goes to the holiday and I don't think it's been as good for him. I'm since he's done a lot of voice acting work sense that I think he becomes like an actor. That's like more oriented towards like Steph. His kids can enjoy but I do think that Jack lack really Peter's heaters off after this movie goosebumps movies. I didn't even know about that. Yeah no that's those are his. I would still argue that his apex at School of Rock. That's when he's in the consciousness is that also likes sets him up for this thing. I think I guess what I'm learning. Is that my definition of APEX. Mountain is the person's like best or most popular movie unless unless they have several of those share and really just has school of rock. I mean he has other things obviously but that is that's the one thing that you associate with him. That's sure sure I agree and also obviously wanted to be a musical like school raucous much equity but I think that you can put like that run from three Dosa. Oh Two zero six together. That's like Jack Doc Black. Okay Yeah I agree with that next. Kate winslet mean. Obviously that's a really hard one to evaluate because she's had so many so many me like peaks essentially. I don't think anyone things the holidays. Her best work our she is very good. And as you said. Titanic no or as I think that catapulted into new level. Yeah Apex though. I don't know Apex Mountain even though she won for terrible movie. Yeah she did win an Oscar for into thousand eight which is after this so but like objectively winning an Oscar as a pretty big deal in terms of being. What are you crying for the reader? Oh I don't even know that move I think I yeah. I've seen the reader and it said during World War Two and I believe that she plays and Nazi who teaches a young tutor. Sounds awful and then I like some weird like sexual definite to yeah and then I do believe they have an affair. Yeah it's like it's like it's not so much she gets she's she's very willing to do nudity. They has yeah yes and I just think that she is really kind of unparalleled she. I think she does make acting seem very easy. Like four. And she's like she sounds like a fun hang she probably is not a fun. Hang but I think she she plays Fund Hang. Well like titanic row. Seems Fun when she's loosens up when she goes dancing downstairs. Yeah remember that she married Richard Branson's narrowing Rolla Nedra a man named Ad Rock and roll and they made their names their some bear and then she was asked whether his name would be bare rock and roll and she was very like no. I'm not insane. His name is bare. winslet's AH good good so good I also I love actress. Who acknowledges like their there on screen husband with their actual husband in the same breath is just very complicated but when she was always like the two men in my life? Sandy's Leonardo di Caprio. I was really really. It was a rough stretch that I thoroughly enjoyed. I think the two men in my life is my favourite kate winslet and may align with the reader. I believe yeah. I think that's true. That was really tough. I forgot about that. So funny her APEC Mountain. I think it's around the time. She won an Oscar in the middle of the odds. Even though that movie's pretty bad yeah the road that year that same year and she is like working up to that at this moment so yes it's all. Yeah it's on the rise. Okay Nats Jude Law. I A lot of conversation about you'd laws Apex Mountain and what that means so in writing. or We've already talked about his Iraq. hotness apex of hotness certainly this movie okay eh no disrespect to Dickie Greenleaf. Yeah I wanted to say this conversation with you. Apex of Honda's I kinda have to go without and Mister Ripley. My man's just in a row. Oh boat in Italy wearing linen like very up. Yeah I I loved. I loved Dad Graham Simpkins or whatever his name is this movie. I think he's really really attractive. Here see the obviously really intelligent Mister Ripley as well. Well I would say Mister Ripley is his pack mountain. Now Yeah because it's just went downhill from there. It was a gradual decline. But nothing was as good as any did I just I was looking at. IMDB and his closer closer was one of his probably one of his most notable movies. He's in a bunch of good movies but he's not. He narrowly carries one. I I mean he's in cold mountain which was really well received is in Iheart Huckabee's but he's like he can't carry a movie like his biggest solo movies. Alfie and like that was not ahead. No that was part of the that was during this Shannon Miller scandal. I think he has talented Mister Ripley. I believe he gets nominated for an Oscar for talented Mister Ripley and then all of kind of the the cool project that he's doing to try to spend his capital also are happening at the same time as she's Indulging in our personal life that at the tabloids are covering is the British tabloids are really intense. There's I think it sounds miserably but there is an argument that right now July sort of in his apex mountain because he can do whatever he wants. He's in the young pope. which is that? HBO that all the Kids Love. Yeah I think they're doing a kids. Love it well. I don't know whether he's in the second season by right kids. She means like twenty twenty. Yeah I mean maybe maybe your children will love the young pope. They are sophisticated. They have you know. Maybe other tastes Beloved Craig there it is and then he's in. He has like the Harry Potter. Spin offense change. He's in like the weird marvel movies and then he's doing all he does all these movies on the side. Rage pops up to be like Jude Law and have sort of a fun on supporting role for awhile. He's living well as evidenced by his late movie career. And also that time I saw him at the arclight in terms of actual power. It is probably Charles Mister Ripley. I agree and also hotness Ripley. That's a really important movie. It's a great. I mean it's just incredible movie great movie incredible talent. That wasn't been Dunya not yet. 'cause it's twenty years in December twenty years ago. It's a great great great great movie. I watch it every time me too. It's it's so expertly really done and part of that. Is Lobbying Dickie Greenleaf Nancy. Meyers this. Hurry packs now Dan you know. What is your Apex Mountain? Then that's a great question. It's not something's gotta get. It might be. That is both like a critical breakthrough through and she gets Keaton and Jack Nicholson and cowdery of kind of kind of the wilderness for a little while. Yeah and you know it's not coming home No no that's her daughters movie isn't it. No she didn't know her show host produce it. My daughter story absolutely horrible movie. I gotta say I had a fantastic time watching it. I enjoyed watching it but I'd still I just didn't that I. I think it's probably. It's probably the house the House it's like the best cast. It's very good and it's like two thousand three when the movie's still make money and people still went to Z.. Like studio comedies in the theater and then from there I I really love both. It's complicated on the intern. You know they just aren't impacted last us. Yeah yeah I I agree with that. Also something's gotTa give Amanda Pizza as well as mcdormand. Isn't it it's also a really good good cat John in it. It's it's a really good movie. I watched that one a lot too so the only person could potentially say it's our Apex Mountain and probably not even Jack Block yet and yet all these starpower incredible. Oh Man Okay moving on the Joey Pants award for that guy I mean and I just WanNa say I'm giving US Dustin Hoffman. Okay it's the great guy of all heights it's using the the it's sort of like a reverse that guy but it's pretty good Let's jump to half ass Internet research because earned doing some have fast Internet research that their feelings movie at blockbuster and Dustin Hoffman was like walking down on the street saw a movie shoot. Happening went over to it is friends Nancy Meyers and they just put them in the scene. I don't think I made it to that part of the drums Eh. Yeah apparently that's just like how it happened and it was just really quick. I think it happened in Larchmont too. Because there's a coffee bean and tea leaf right next door. Oh interesting there was. Let's not anymore but With this movie was made Qila at definitely possible. I always obsessed trying to figure out where they're filming things. A lot of stuff was seem like it was I know the one thing. They filmed the scene when they were in the That beautiful chateau where they were eating lunch. It was in the Greystone Mansion. Here your it was like a home. Oh interesting We alluded to this but they built so the House that Kate winslet's character has in England and that was completely built in a field in England for the shoot basically exteriors and everything like that and that was also in Surrey and then allows downstate sound stage action for the interiors of the homes but building. The exterior is like stealing. Now I know where a lot of eighty five million made a brick and yeah yeah totally and then apparently it snow during the shoe which is actually a rare but added to the vibe which which is wonderful and as you mentioned the exterior of Camry has house is near the Huntington Gardens in San Marino. Which is right near Pasadena Beautiful? Pretty I couldn't verify this truly fast. That's Internet research but IRS is the name of Kate winslet's character also the name of wanted you'd laws daughters and that's either a funny coincidence or one. Website website suggested that the character's name for his daughter but I actually couldn't confirm mansell who knows it could be incorrect. Sam Yeah Yeah Very Nice. Yeah it's lovely Iranian Graham. Those go together. I believe that Iron Grammar siblings totally great staff Jeez episodes also brought to you by luminary. PODCAST subscription service with some of the best content around. I'm excited about luminary. Because it's the only place I can. 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I found this scene between her and Ed Burns. When they're fighting at the beginning is like maybe you should be a shared award shared winner for this award? That whole thing where they're just yelling alley each other and you never. You don't believe anything what's happening and that either of them care. Yeah they're just kinda shrieking and then she does. You mentioned the asaf ago whatever. Yeah I don't know I mean you're the only woman on the face of the earth who breaks up with her boyfriend doesn't even shed a tear. It's going to mean something right. Does it bug you so much that I can't Cry Sausages Spasm Gossiping. It's okay I'll be all right. I know I know I'm thinking about me. Ethan definitely always reminded that she was acting weren't like oh it just slipped into this part or whatever just very very much felt like she was acting but maybe also part of that is because she was supposed to be out of her element in in England. I don't know just trying to be kind. Yeah who knows recasting couch. So I'm GonNa Jason Segel Okay for uh the miles role. I think you swayed me. Thank Yeah Yeah I tried did that. Whole like the weird vampire? And now now I I can buy it. What about Emilia Alia Clark as irs? Yes should be fantastic as I bet. That's my best suggestion. DNR's chariot kate. Hudson have been Cameron Cameron Diaz yes. It's good contemporary initially accurate. And also she has the she has put the L. A. S. and also the ROM com chops right. She might even be slightly better at the emotional aspects of it. Because let's be real. This movie's pretty sappy and I feel like that's the cameras. Yes like gets a little uncomfortable. This happiness I know where character is supposed to be uncomfortable with this happiness but the giving into it. Maybe Kate Hudson could do it a bit better but then he right when she did like how to lose a guy. Yeah Yeah. Yeah when she did all the McConnell I was like but then you gotta put my hand over like you could have put mcconaughey in there too. Yeah you need the British accent. uh-huh mccartin hey would have been a good fit. Though love. Love that character I other British doctors could any red main player character. No no no one does. Hot Krant can't do it because it's too sappy. Yeah definitely not yeah. It's like he's too. I mean the thing. That's Colin I. If he wasn't oh yeah my take it. Oh he totally has the aloof he has the aloofness that Like Hugh grant basically because the thing is the characters like so direct. He's like I I love you. I'm sorry Ray said convert. Did the love actually really messed up plot line but where he is just kinda helpless and I like I love you so he could do it. Yeah that's a good one tail thing is just no one does hot. So it's a part of that it's just it just realise without Judah. Yeah I actually he really does bring it all together picking that there's so many I mean okay. Thank you so much okay. And this is like a and Rom COM tro forever. But we would be remiss. We did point out a wedding reporter for the Telegraph is owning this picturesque cottage. That's on par with The mansion in in Brentwood they even though. It's in Pasadena Right I. I don't know she can't afford this cottage commute like how she get into it. Fourteen minutes I actually really appreciated that is the description is is just Mike just forty minutes outside of but yeah. I don't know I'm not buying okay. Maybe it's the family home because Judah also lives in the area. British people have a lot of family money though that was the only reason and I might have bought into it as earth. Yeah it's that's true great set for my next question okay. Where were these people's families you're right family okay? Everyone is just like I'm going to go away for Christmas. No Oslo and care have no parents no siblings knowing to keep in touch with jude law didn't even know Kate winslet. It was gone but she did. Just make the plan the night for the moment but yeah issue did try to tell him. He said that she called. They have no holiday obligations to friends friends or family or any life outside like the people that are shown in the movie. I just hurry confused. You know even like Wallich just like don't you have grandkids or or a nephew or a niece rate. I mean you know I guess when you are getting older he does have some friends but you know but there's there's no one okay. Another another related thing. This is a Christmas movie right. It's called the holiday Christmas music. There is a major scene like that happens on Christmas Eve. When when Jack Black finds out that his girlfriend it is dating someone else right and she's like? Do you want some Christmas Fettuccini. So we know it's Christmas Eve Christmas Day just totally. Yeah they just don't even mention. The whole movie has risen music and it's called the holiday actual holiday is just not acknowledged college. I have no idea how any of them spent their Christmases and also in England boxing day not discussed either just total fast forward two years it is. It's it's super weird and also like that. No one's like sad or like there's no. There's no Christmas trees. There's like a house. Oh you're right that's the only place I did wonder whether they we're trying to make it like broader holiday appeal that there's a reason I mean the holiday is a nice idea to have a Hanukkah dinner I it yeah that's what British people call vacations. So it's a word play but it is also. It's not got Christmas the holiday right but but still. If you're going to have like a Christmas Eve I don't know what Christmas Day right right. Got A couple more okay. What is the vetting process for home? Swapping you're right. It was like oh I'm free it's all in one thousand nine hundred nine. It reminded me a lot of the lovely. You've got males Tom. Hanks Meg Ryan. Are you know so and they speak. Cute I thought it was very sweet. They seem to have a great relationship but there is like no other vetting or checks or even how are we going to swap key too soon into that because they were both on this house what race I know neither one of them was going to rip the other person's yeah there and there's none of the kind of the behind the scenes like there's no house cleaning. There's no preparation preparation. There's whatever okay. I have another one. Yeah I really. Truly don't understand Cameron Diaz his sex life and why that's a plot line in this movie. She suddenly like. I'm bad at sex. Well what is that like. We're your long term boyfriends like. You're bad at Saks. And then you stay together like what is that and and then also what if he said that why she surprised that he was cheating. Like no offense by it's confusing. I don't understand why it's involved and also understand why Jude Law's confirming her several times afterwards. I mean that's nice if you have someone and even the other really good great aside as a as a rebuke to the other guys. Not just like the really talking about a follow up on her comments I just they say David. They haven't had sex in a year. Okay which I guess sometimes happens in bad relationships. I agree that the then the infidelity. It doesn't really seem to come as much of a surprise Sir as you might think but it all flows but then for her to introduce the fact that for her to believe him even though number one she had they haven't had sex in the air and number two for her to introduce it just before they're having sex and she's otherwise I think she's supposed to be a confident person and they have to give for like a thing to make her relatable you know like they used to make all the ROM com people fall down or whatever the number one that sexist and number two picking. I'm really bad at sex as the the thing to make her related so weird. I don't understand it's just. It's a really weird plot point. They didn't need to be a movie. It also just like it's just just strange. It's just so out of left field and just really super straight you. Just don't say that to someone know when she's the one who's like I think we should have sachs like just like if you're saying that don't like head you'll be like sorry might be bad also if you're not planning on seeing him ever again like don't even say anything just X. just go for that. It's really baffling to me into. I don't get it. Also women in her position in La even in two thousand and six if she wants you were bad at sex would've taken multiple classes done a lot of meeting. This is a solutions solutions oriented person. She would found solutions for it. I totally agree with. Okay Yeah I have one more is great. The only adjective that Cameron Cameron Diaz his character does literally the kids are like looking are magical ten and she's like it's so great. What a great day? It's only there's only one word that she knows and it's it's great and it drives me insane. I think I think part of that is bad. Writing Sorry Ansi I think the other part of it is. She's like bad at her emotion so she doesn't have have like words to put against clearly not been around children either right so she's just her vapid. La Person Yeah Okay but they don't lean into that they they did if she were evacuated. La Person. I would get it. But you're supposed to empathize with her anymore. Bad writing I agree. I think those are. Those are my major issues. I have a few more in two thousand six. Why do Jude Law's daughters? Who are both under five? I think five or less have their own cell phones. They shouldn't carry. Yeah I guess you can speak to. This is to ex. And they're under five. No that would bill gates eleven or something under five I think they I started playing club sports. That's when they got their phone. Okay then I could communicate with them throughout the field or whatever but that's way too young I mean they'd have ipads at that age. Yeah not phone. Maybe one of them as like. Let's say she's at Max seven still too young in two thousand six was l.. Phones have only been mainstream for five years point. It's really weird to me. Maybe it's because because this is one of my nitpicks he was. He just could randomly be out and stay out all night and his kids will be calling the next day and it's like wait a minute like so you just is left and you decide to have a late night and stay at Cameron Diaz this house. You're so weird. Kids are home. Parents are with them his parents but oh yeah he did the they say that the grandparents ever see definitely available though life emotionally logistically to available cameras. Yeah I I do wonder if the kids having cell phone things actually just they introduced a basic area. I think you're supposed to think that they would just be calling from home but you have to have the the names in the phone to make this AFIA. Olivia reveal actually work right so they just you know it's a reality because the woman I just didn't mark another one that crag pointed out Jude Law Very Tan in this movie for a man who lives in England that's always in the middle of December in Italy filming talented gate years forever. Way To ten and on the cotton on the topic of the Color Tan. CAITLYN's with carrier. Where's too many Tan Hans Waitz and creams like she? You just took Diane Keaton's Roy Moore drove something's gotTa give and just put it on and made it yes. It didn't fit her well and again. I wasn't sure if that was like defrays. E body. Kate winslet yes hot. Yeah when they when she's in the pool in the one piece you're just like Oh. Wow this glamour. Of course pretty weird. They make her look so bad in her. Wardrobe is terrible. That feels like just really bad studio notes of like this woman needs to be quote relatable to everybody body and so you can't do anything threatening and so you have to make her look like normal. Yeah which is lame. It's like the I don't know like this give affiliation. But that's like she literally. Dresses is like my mother's eighty eighty and like she would wear that some of the outfits her like. I don't know it didn't look at none of rain in this movie. Didn't it didn't rain. Once all the time in England it snowed. It snowed which they did say in the UH commentary commentary that snowden never even sticks ending right in England wind so they were they had to keep making it stick right and it. It's not common right. It's not at all like last year's and there's been snow like in London like the city's like paralyzed warm because it's damp and it's just like give us the England rain where Jude Law still be hot. If it's raining make him. What no problem with that like I don't understand it? Does it rains fog. Can I ask another weather related. Question do the Santa Anna's really lasted December. We're in peaks in right now and it's November and I do. They often go Christmas. I don't think so. I think they can happen. It can happen just using his people. Don't yeah yeah and I also. I don't know whether this is true. True or whether they talked about this on the commentary but they added that in because they had Santa. Anna's while filming Oh interesting and the wind was blowing. Wasn't created wind up there. We go so much weather. Yeah Kerry anymore nets to pick mine. Were like kind of more specifically. Let's hear it bothered me. When Jasper was like growing up red pick the one on ties back? Wait a minute. All all little bikinis have tie in the back was like what a great point agreed. Weird one also dish you have to read bikinis one. That's a front class but one does tie the back. Yeah any sense the the drive already breath drive from the airport that somehow ended up on the P. C. H.. I didn't make and I think even going north so she ended up on the PCH. And then she's on ocean. I think and she turns onto sandy but yeah sunset sign there they may add. Look like Belair uh-huh yeah that's true ocean dishonesty and like that could have tracked but they like they messed it up. Yes something was wrong there. I think they wanted like. Oh Beverly Hills does looking or Bel Air looking sign but it was but it was Santa Monica. She is also from the airport. I think she's like driving south which is not how you got in which you know. Then she's looking at the ocean. I mean it's a great view. Awful over there but I got one to the driver when she gets to. The the caught swells will not drive down to the house. It's just bizarre like you pay a driver was a black car. They'll take you all the way they never. They don't say Oh yeah lady and your high heels you down the mile and a half path and she dies on the way like that doesn't happen related to this carry. Can you confirm this. This is from. This is really half ass trivia but apparently on the director's commentary or on one of the behind the scenes commentaries Cameron Diaz says. This is her most physical physical film because of all the running. She has to do which I think just means like up and down at that Suitca unless they must have fun like twenty times. Those that was really funny. I I'm sure that was true. A lot of interviews a lot of focusing on cameras hitting her head on the beam in side the house as like. Oh Oh my God. What a funny moment that she handled so well and it's like okay? Sure even think about that and more than one so no no big deal. I had some other notes like this like borderline unanswerable questions just out now. Does Jude. Law Leave has glasses and his sister's house or does he just travel them anytime he he has a big night out like assuming he could end up wherever and we'll have to take out his contacts and glasses the next morning. I sort of assumed that he was like the low-grade glasses where where he's not going from contacts to glasses either reading glasses or a little bit of help he can get away with dad. Dad Forty. Yeah they're in the the supermarket. Joe Carrington Blazer right now that no one could see but yeah I assume he has them on them because they're like it's an off situation. Just look so hot and then my other thing is i. Don't I don't think I would let like a complete stranger just through through my door. No no well that either but this. I'm thinking back to Jack Black when he shows up oh and he. He liked the Santa Anna Windsor blowing. And he goes to take something out of Kate winslet's eyelash And he's like literally like right on her and breathing in her face. Yeah like trying to get something out never eyelash and I would be happy comfortable. Do Really Big Cameron Diaz has two suitcases was enough. After all the clothes. We see her wearing keeping no she unlike back. It's a lot lot shoes. A lot of warm weather stuff that's bulky but also a lot of light layers though. She is really during a lot of like a mirror and that stuff can be pretty compact. I wasn't sure I was like I. I was like this looks like a lot. But then she has these codes and shoes shoes you're so bulky and she had like boots and stuff so I was worried she just by the clothes that she wore over to his house that day because she said there's no men there right so she wasn't planning on a a big night. He only knows that address formerly either like Super Super Low key like in her pajamas or like dressed up like structure clothing which honestly good way to Alpha Nine holiday outfit like. She was wearing a long pencil skirt with like this. Big Thick Black Bell rang stones. It was a beautiful talk like that didn't seem like something I'd bring along on vacation if I wasn't planning it didn't make sense now on the other hand. She clearly had weird expectations for what she was going to be. Getting in England. Go whatever maybe she packed everything shields I also was wondering how. IRS gets up to her home. The cabdriver wouldn't drive her like how does she drive out there but whatever smaller car. She has a mini because Cameron yes. She's using her car because they say they exchange cars. I know it just like you didn't track with the whole cab thing. I think I think that driver is not a five star is what we've come down to what it is Best quote. I'm going to be honest. I know it Oh go you. I don't think there is one no I have a lot of. That's the one where he says where Arthur says in the movies we are leading ladies and we have the best friend you I can tell her leading lady but for some reason. You're behaving best friend Surroi soon. I think the runner up when the abl Santana's pardon the wind is what makes it so warm. This legend has it Senate is blow. All bets are off. Anything can happen. I also liked when comedy as as we should probably have sachs if you want to and jude law says is that a trick question and we actually funny and I feel like it's like a weird to say. Yeah but you're care that's definitely at. Could this be remains the ten episode. Netflix show yes. What right now? I'm in a completely. I want to know what happens. I WANNA see her inject lack break-up 'cause you know that's that's GonNa totally how long they last like two months five months all right. Oh so you guys think they're the ones that break up. Jude Lime Cameron Diaz. Has It have a a future together. This was one of my questions. Cameron Diaz his character. Amanda as a step mom go. Oh I can't imagine really cute clothes. She would. I really wouldn't work out. This is great. Yeah really really tough and the other unanswerable questions and but that would be part of it. Though then. She'd be her like getting over the Hump of being tried to move to England and she. What the facts as I do? And then she'd have to work through it. Okay Okay and you think she would work through it. Rather than getting on the first plane home and Living back in her beautiful house with her extremely profile so so that was the point. Okay ready to have the chance. Wants to leave and she came back right. We didn't talk another nitpick was how they all they have like pretty involved jobs and I understand. It's the the holidays but they just drop everything. And you never hear from Catherine Honnor John Brzezinski or any of the trailer people ever again. She's like I really business until I don't okay. I think it's like a quasi believable dish. It is very true but for for a reporter. It's definitely harder. Yeah four versus. This is the freshest society especially with all the people get married on Christmas staff. Yeah Christmas parties New Year's parties. That's definitely less believable to me. Okay who who on the movie you which is a resounding man guy so hot areas of the movie. I mean it's it's tough but true it is as you said. This movie doesn't work without him no other answer. He's just so great and yet it still has apex bounded. How wild Just a great holiday movie. I certainly feel like I'm in the holiday spirit now need to Christmas music. It's getting chilly here. Thank you so much for listening I'm Juliet Lipman. I'm Kerry Simmons Back next week well three of us will be will be

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039. Charlie's Angels (2000)

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039. Charlie's Angels (2000)

"Hello and welcome to spy. Hards forecast for your hosts go deep undercover into the well to spy movies to decide which films makes the noc list remember this information. It's strictly for your is only. I made I'm cam the provocateur. Aka scotties angel. Good morning scott. I was writing to sorta very good morning at jokes was thinking. You're more of the bosley of this won't really fair enough. Yeah i'll take fool. Yeah scenes basically just by himself locked in a room. that's me. Yeah yeah. I can see you whittling away and making it a gun yourself. Yeah yeah reenacting scenes from the great escape Talking to buds classic with one of my favorite pastimes is to find not hatches have conversations on my windowsill. It's just a bizarre thing that that poke us in takeoff night. I know right now you know may maybe my next bird venture will take off overweight. I had another bird venture. It was called condor man. Oh god don't take me back to that. I still to this comic book you found. Yeah that's right. I have purchased the condor sequel comic. I paid like twenty five dollars for hang on. Hang on hang on hang on hang on so when when is like oh have to spend five dollars to rent a film like do i have to condo man prequel comic twenty five bucks. Let's go baby It's a collector's item. Scott i see. I see well For me to question the the wisdom of the genius is cam. It's true plus twenty five dollars. Canadian is about a dollar fifteen. Us so there you have it. It's about twenty p in the uk. okay Well i. I think we're kind of spoiled it. But what are we doing this weekend. We are going back to the year. Two thousand when wire food was all the rage. And we're gonna talk about charlie's angels. Oh my ladies. Can you fill me. Throw your hands off me No kidding well for those the aunt in the no. This is the letterbox dot com synopsis. Charlie's angels get some action. Three women detectives a mysterious boss retrieve stolen voice. Id software using martial-arts tech scale and sex appeal guitar solo. Yeah maybe a corner or something in the background. Yeah right yeah. That's pretty perfect. So i mean. I feel like you have a really strong advantage when you are writing a synopsis for a movie based on a tv show where the pitch the show you just kind of. Translate that over. Pretty much summed up the movie to Maybe something maybe. I think there are some differences but will may touch on that later. Down the line. Yeah because we're going to do with this episode. What we did with our man from rhode back in the day in that. We're gonna talk about the movie but we're also later in the show gonna talk about the pilot episode of the show that spun it so we will talk about the very first episode the hour and fifteen minute pilot for charlie's angels from nineteen seventy six. You'll nervousness. I watched the film twice. So i've had to watch this film twice and the pilot twice you watch the pilot twice. Yes sir holy smokes awhile. Okay well let's fascinating. What what are you saying canton. You'll love it. I watched it once and then broke your tv. That's right okay. Well before i i know there's going to be a bit of a genesis this film. It wasn't tv show. But did you have any experience with this film. Back in two thousand Yeah okay so. I remember when it was coming out. The marketing was everywhere that destiny's child song independent woman was everywhere. You could not avoid it. No matter how much you try you could curl up in a bunker underground and it would still be piping into the pa system So i was very much aware. The movie is coming out I didn't see it in theaters. I just i remember having just not a lot of interest in seeing it whatsoever. And i don't think my friends did either. Which makes all the difference when you're nineteen years old if all your friends are like you're like okay. Well yeah. I don't care either. So i did watch it as soon as it hit video and i remember thinking like man that was kind of fun like it wasn't i didn't think it was bad. I thought it was just kind of like goofy and silly and i to be completely honest. Have not thought about this movie. I hadn't thought about this movie since seeing it back. I guess probably two thousand one to this very day like it wasn't until last night watching the movie that i was like. Wow you. I never would have thought that would be re watching this movie. Like twenty something years later. It's funny you should talk about revisiting it in your experience too because i also didn't see in the cinema but i was the age of thirteen time so i'm not too sure what the racing was in the uk. But i i think it was one of those. Vhs is that my house just had polka. So yeah. I just think it just got played low in my house because i didn't know anything about coming into it often. I fly in the annual with the creepy thin man. Ty crispin glover. I remembered a lot of moments from it. Like there was a lot of just like shots or comedic situations that had really kind of stuck in my head. So it's interesting that you know. I did see the sequels or you know the second and the third charlie's angels films. And i don't really have memories of those whereas like this one a lot of did kind of just lodge itself into my brain and i look forward to examining why exactly that was all. I think i know well. It's a weird movie. And i think i'm really looking forward to talking about this one because of you know we've talked about a lot of different moods but this one really does feel like a cultural artifact from the year two thousand and i found it very interesting in that regard yet. I i'm not gonna talk about my feelings on on it now but i think it was definitely just as the rotation. I had at the time of vhs in my house and so i've just absorbed in and Again just remember beats jokes and scenes. So when i was watching i was just amazed at how much older clicked back in my head. Yeah but some as of alluded to this film as no used to be a tv show From smokescreen to big screen well. That's quite a journey but Basically back in the day. I don't know if you remember in the nineteen nineties. They were obsessed with turning. Tv shows into movies. I mean. I guess they would still do that now but nonetheless. This was like the big craze where you had like the brady bunch you the flintstones the fugitive do you remember this era. Scott i think i i remember things like the flintstones and this the brady bunch was never really thing in the uk. An didn't even know the fugitive wasn't tv show. Yeah it was actually a really popular show in the sixties. I think made them in the late fifties. I'm i'd have to look that one up but Yeah they made like movies even off stuff. Like car fifty. Four where are you. The beverly hillbillies there was like all these All the navy all these movies were in cranked out based on tv shows and this one feels towards the end of the trend that trained that trend kicks off in like around ninety three ish or so and then carries into the later nineties but nonetheless. Charlie's angels was on sony pictures to do list. They very much stop in rebooting this. Tv show which had run from seventy six to eighty one for the big screen now drew. Barrymore was a big fan of the show growing up her and her producing partner. Nancy juvonen Went to sony to try to convince them to hand the reins over now drew barrymore's production companies called flower films. They produced actually a lot of films including whippet the The roller derby film a handful years ago. A lot of her tv work is done through flower films by. She saw this movie as a really interesting chance to do a female driven action franchise so she went to sony and she pitched with a sizzle reel she'd put together putting together clips from countless films including enter. The dragon used cars foul. Play the great escape tons of movies essentially presenting tone piece of the kind of vibe she wanted to achieve in. Sony was like okay i guess. And they handed over the reins the franchise to her so drew barrymore and a producing partner oversaw dozens of writers dozens of scripts like there was a lot of work being put into trying to develop a story based on this show. It's always interesting. When i hear things like that because i always thought the central concept of the show is quite simple. Would you thought the same scott see. I can understand if she was quite precious about the night the conversion from tv to movie but yet as a as a tv show. It's it's pretty Wash basic in terms of cloth. I just wonder if maybe there was. Also we'd seen a lot of tv to film adaptations fail and so i wonder if it was very much. How do we make this cinematic. How do we make this big event. So i can kind of understand some of the exiled these there plus. There's not a lot of female driven action franchises at this point. Really there's none. You can look at female action. Heroes like ripley Linda hamilton in terminator films or going back pam grier and like the blaxploitation films. But not a lot of blockbuster franchises. And i think that's why this movie is actually somewhat interesting but i can understand. There may have been a little more pressure on barrymore and her team to make this movie something. That really worked while quick question before you move on a off. See i can understand his son. You quite precious about having this. Because if this is the era of converting tv shows because it's a people know it people who invested in the brand is charlie's angels who is drew barrymore to come in a give it to me. It is quite high at this point. Identify she released in her career. Yeah right that's actually a really good point so yes drew. Barrymore has had a real resurgence. So she's done. Movies like never been kissed The wedding singer. She's definitely has a pretty high profile at this point and she was a very big draw for youth audiences and i would have to imagine. That's incredibly appealing to sony's that she could draw in that. You know teenage and twentysomething crowd. And i think not foreshadow but i think that was maybe the target audience. I would have to think so judging from the movie but so the script that was put together the i would say temporary script was by ryan rowe who had done the cult film tape heads with john cusack as well as some disney tv adaptations of the love. Bug and computer were tennis shoes. It was also written by ed. Solomon who had done men in black and the bill and ted franchise so the script was pretty much unused by enough. I guess to get the go-ahead If that makes sense to this wasn't a scripted show. This is just now letting this was the credited script but no so what happened. Was that at this point. They start looking at casting drew. Barrymore brought in cameron diaz who had turned it down a few times but very more personally got cameron diaz to sign on Then they were looking to cast the alex role and they really wanted angelina. Jolie and joey was not interested at all. She ended up doing tomb. Raider i think the same year or maybe the following year they also talked to catherine zeta jones. Jada pinkett smith tandy newton ashley judd angie harmon ultimately. They went with lucy. Liu who at this point was actually quite popular on the show. Ally mcbeal But llc lou was not. I guess a proven quantity at the box office. So and i think that was very much reflected if you look up. The disparity between the drew barrymore and cameron diaz vs lucy. Liu it's quite evident when might just telling everyone won't that was one of my research was the the pay disparity in it's quite big Yeah what was it's got while. I haven't got cameron diaz drew barrymore's to the number but i know cameras had the most in the drew. Barrymore has a little bit less but she also had a producer credit so she paid a bit more on top from the grocery bill. Yeah but we're talking like tens of millions. Yeah whereas yet. Lucy liu one million dollas. Yeah i mean cameron diaz. Was you know a lot of actors at this point If you're a top draw your mail top dry should say you're getting about twenty million. Which is like the schwarzenegger. Jim carey money. And then the female. Top rate i think was like julia roberts and demi moore. We're getting like twelve point five It's very telling of course that You know a decade plus later up patricia arquette calls out the pay disparity when wins the oscar and people are like what it's like up. Yes it was very clear back. Even in the nineteen nineties and early two thousands that there was a very significant difference between top-selling stars of the day between male and female but Yeah cameron diaz got the twelve point five because this really was a big arrow for her. It's interesting to think that this is kind of lucy. Lose big moment. yeah i. I didn't want jolly mcbeal rethink. It was a show. That was for me when i was studying and british but yeah i guess this was my experience lucy. Liu probably was for me to well. She did appear in episode of the x files back in the day so i would have seen her in that. Let's at yeah. I was on the same but i. Yeah i definitely the first appearance on the big screen Yeah very much. A star moment for her yet totally. And then she does kill bill couple years later and charlie's angels sequel so she definitely did some stuff of note but this was probably the big coming out party on the big screen. Yeah whoa whoa hold it. Hold it hold. And she did stall in shanghai noon this very year as princess pay. Oh that's right. Yeah yeah to be fair. This is still the big movie star bowen because that role it's fine but it's also comes very much behind the owen wilson. Jackie chan perrin. Yes absolutely it's not it's not taught billion whereas this is which is why the disparities is so strange because it's not like she plays second fiddle to as unbearable. It's just that era though where they also looked at tv actors as somewhat lesser. So if you were like a star on as ally mcbeal was a big deal you were still not worth as much. As a proven movie star like a drew. Barrymore cameron diaz show done stand up and things have changed over time We don't tend to give out the huge Dollar amounts that They did in this era. And so unless you have like a real back end deal like robert downey junior on the avengers films or something like that. So i think the disparity between tv and film has shrunk for sure. Okay that makes sense. Yeah so they approached a few directors to do this frank karachi with drew. Barrymore on the wedding singer turned it down. Alexander payne who did election turned it down and baas luhrman who did moulin rouge turned it down as well ultimately was mc g a music video director. Who won barrymore. He's most known for having a major role in shaping music videos in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s. It's pretty crazy when you look down his credits but he. I got into the industry doing corn videos so he did almost all the videos off their first album. The self titled korn album in nineteen ninety-four. He also did the got life video from follow the leader. Some of the other ones he did offspring's pretty fly for a white guy smash mouth all star and bare naked ladies one week just to give credit to Mike canadian pride and joy. Okay well Junge from cohen to the offspring. I guess but they're all kind of new metal. Did he do the frequent at least one or less animate it isn't there is there is live accident at to isn't the i know he didn't do freak on a leash. That was todd mcfarlane. So this is his first film. Then yeah it is and his full name. Is joseph mcginty nichol for those confused. The g. is what he goes under professionally but yeah he want very moreover over with his visual concepts for the movie and i mean drew barrymore looking forward to talking because this is a move very much run by barrymore through her producing power And i think there's an interesting We could say clashing of concepts between what barrymore's doing versus. What makes often seems to be doing. So that's gonna be interesting to talk about at this point even after hiring mckee they still don't really have a script for this movie whatsoever. So they hire john august. Who had done. Doug limon's go. He did tighten the e and he would go on to do a lot of tim. Burton movies like big fish. Corpse bride dark shadows charlie and the chocolate factory. He came in last minute to try to put something together. They began production on this movie. With just a concept and an opening like that's all they had which is crazy. Whoa so they started shooting things before they even knew the first thing the angels are going to be in yes right. Hollywood is bizarre man. It truly is and i saw an interview with mc from the era. He said basically they did most of the movie without a script he would get together with the three actresses in hamra what they were gonna do This was very much shot on the fly. One thing i thought was interesting. Was they talked. About how despite all the plotting being very much up in the air all of the actresses had a very firm lock on what their characters were and what the tone of the movie was so. I think it's going to be interesting to talk about the tone of the movie and the characters. Because i think they're pretty consistent. It seems like they knew what movie they were making. Even if they didn't know what that story was. That's why you surprise you when you said it was quite free flowing because i didn't really get that impression from the film. Yeah so we'll talk about that in a bit Couple of other notes. All mention the The three leads trained a lot for this movie. They trade eight hours a day for five days a week for three months in new And i think the evidence is fairly strong onscreen. They did a lot of work. This is also that post matrix era. Where martial arts films is like really getting exciting in their training actors. A lot to do the stuff they hired. Un chewing yen who is the brother of un whooping. Who did the choreography on the matrix. So he he did The fight choreography on this film. And he's a longtime martial artist actor for decades does stunts. He worked on the matrix sequels. So like you have some real pedigree in the action choreography. You've got the three leads doing a lot of kung-fu training. They desperately wanted an authenticity to the martial arts and action onscreen. I had a question about the matrix. I remember dyson head. So you'll tell me came out before this yet. Nineteen ninety nine right. So the whole like why of flu season had begun. Basically yeah i mean it had existed in Asian films for quite a long time but it very much crossed over to the us around the time of the matrix okay. I can definitely see the influences. Then that that was something i picked up on my own. My washing. I just wasn't strong timeline. Yeah because you remember the first x. men movie comes out the same year and it has a lot of wire phoo action as well. Yeah that bit wolverine does that sort of a jump kick in the air was was quite interesting thing to say. There's some really clunky wire fu in that one. I of kind of things to save the wire fu in this movie the x. men stuff is really aged formerly. i honestly don't remember. I told of huffman every obscene of like the bad guy. Melting down side of the building Right and somebody do a statue of liberty. That's where the awkward is really comes into play as that statue of liberty fight. I will be googling that directly off this recording out so they wanted the original angels to do cameos in this movie. Ultimately they all turned it down minus john forsythe who came back to reprise the role of the voice of charlie. Apparently farah fawcett. Wanted to be with charlie in the film And that wasn't really working with what they wanted to do. And kate jackson wanted to play the kelly lynch villain role. So that didn't work out either Kind of a bummer. I was kind of fun when they work in. These cameos organically. But i guess this wasn't to be Now this will be did it on top of the script issues. There was some other drama going on. And it seems to swirl around coast. Are bill murray now bill. Murray pretty exciting to have him on a movie like this. He's a presence. It's very reliable but it doesn't sound like he had a good time doing this. One at all human mc g did not get along whatsoever. There was rumors at the time. That bill murray at headbutted him. It seems like that was not the case. But bill murray has since said that mckee deserves to parish and should be pierced to the lance not headbutted. I'm glad he clarified that point I don't think you really go. He's intended message across with the head. But yeah i'll bilberries known to be pretty prickly and it seems like this set was not his friend he also had some sort of blow up with lucy liu during the shooting it apparently caused a shutdown for one day. I don't really know what happened. The details on that seemed to be scarce bill. Murray has said he was ridiculing some of the dialogue. She had to say as in like one actor to another and it was not taken that way and it seems like that was something to do with it. It was Definitely tense. Though and bill murray it should be noted is not back in the in the next film. Say this to problems say and yet have the same person involved. I'm tending to think. It might be in the because it seems like this was not his set. This was not his vibe. And we'll talk about bill murray's contributions to the film but i don't think this was a set plank. His strengths i. It's just bizarre to wish death upon someone. well bill. Maher is a very strange man. Yeah i'm still waiting to turn off. And just join his paw randomly. That would be actually pretty fun so maybe on when we do the man who knew too little we can get him on the show. Give us a call bill. I don't think he wants to talk about this movie. Now he's coming back on for the second one. Yeah that's a twist forever awed. Yeah the no one wanted but generally elsewhere scandal about the box office. Yeah so the budget for this movie was ninety. Three million domestic made one hundred twenty five million international hundred and thirty nine for a worldwide total of two hundred and sixty four million dollars. This was a big hit Landed at number twelve for the year between scary movie and brock vich number one was mission impossible to number two is gladiator and number three castaway. That's a heavy ear Yeah as a hell of a year. Hey lease it made. His money helps. It pays the sequel. Yeah i mean this was a big hit and there was obviously a lot of marketing. And i think a lot of it was done through. I mean here in canada. We have much music. Which is the same thing as mtv. Nowadays it doesn't really play music videos anymore. I don't even know if it exists anymore. Actually i'm old. What do i know but Back in the mtv yes same. Mtv back in the day though like you could not escape that destiny's child song the marketing was ever. This was very much a movie that a lot of young people had to go see like this was a big opening weekend. People had to see this movie. Which is why you didn't sign up. Yeah i just have to imagine. I have really no memory as to why we didn't go. Because you know i was nineteen. We went to tons of movies. I think it was just like friends. Didn't wanna go. Plus i have to feel like we were playing goldeneye all the time. To be honest there is that. I think i know why goes eight and cinema. That was the age issue is my family but definitely by the time it was released on home video i it just felt like it was such a of the moment film especially with that. Charlie's angels song that that destiny show was on the radio all the damn time And still is it is. Yeah for sure and i was also like just really big until like heavy metal music of course at that time and i just feel like a lot of the marketing wouldn't have appealed to my so medal sensibilities while i think we will gains this. I think we will probably talking audience. I guess i don't know. And i yeah. Let's get into that so that kind of wraps up the behind the scenes on this movie okay. Well cam i think this one is going to be long hard and rough. But i want you to really stick your opinion my slot. Oh jesus and that was just some of the one line is this film has i no longer want to be one of scotties. Angels said voiced memory morning. Good morning like okay. Well you first buddy you you did catch this around the time but what do you think now so. I sat down to watch this last night. And i'm not gonna lie. There is a certain amount of dread with this one. Because i just thought okay. This movie didn't exactly me that much. When i saw it in two thousand what is it gonna be like revisiting a two thousand year. Blockbuster you know the age of wire fu bad. Cg like is this going to be great for me to watch. I didn't find that to be the experience i actually. You know you. And i talked about reema williams fairly recently and that's a movie where we went back and forth like. What is this movie trying to do. This movie's tone all over the place. Here actually kind of admired. How close they stuck to their tone. They knew what movie they were making. All three leads are on the same page. It's very poppy. i remember roger. Ebert hated this movie and called it. Something like I candy for the blind but it is like pure sugar. It is just like a bubble gum movie that it's entirely disposable but it's so committed to just being over the top silly ridiculous and it moves at very quick pace which i really want to emphasize was my favorite thing. This movie's ninety eight minutes. It speeds through. I think it could maybe cut a couple of minutes in the back half or something gets a little bit. I got a little bit worn out by the end a little I will say. But ultimately i found it. It's look it's not a movie that's really that much for me. It's not the sort of thing. I don't think i'll be revisiting in the future. But i kind of appreciated as a artifact of the year two thousand an example of what happened when you had a very strong female producer working with a male director of music videos. Which is a clash that i think comes across in the movie. That's gonna be interesting to talk about. But overall i thought this was more interesting to watch. I expected i. I think i resonate that almost perfectly one thing to solve give give the listeners. Love with the behind the scenes is my watching. I tend to watch these films before cameras. I was really concerned about Just the tone. And so of the sexualization this film You can test my worries about that. And and mazing we have another voice on this and i think ultimately is it's a punchy little film the knows what it is it is albany there is there is nothing beneath the surface but i think understands and acknowledges it that enough that you just kind of go with it and everyone is as you said playing that will it feels like pure comic book filmmaking. In the era. I'm talking about where comic book filmmaking men just really like. Hyperactive action packed. Colorful goofy I'm not talking the marvel era where they're much more grounded character. It's much more of that. We are just making pop entertainment. And i think so much of this will be depends on whether it's a static is interesting or funny to you or fun too. Engrossed yourself in this world for me. I kind of a little bit removed from it. I don't have the It's not something that draws me in that much. It's not something that i find particularly compelling to watch but i can totally admit that this is something that works on its own terms and i can completely understand why does have despite the fact. That's a big hit. I think a lot of people will actually hate this movie E see a lot of negative opinions on this movie you go online. It does not have a high. Imdb score for example or you know you look at general user reviews of this movie not great but you do see it. Has a cult audience. Very much appreciates what it was trying to do. I think that's probably it. Is you have to look at it. As as a film that knows. It is just schlock. Yeah in can't be in cash. But in the right way like it is exactly nailing itself understands what it wants to be and delivers i. Don't i don't watch. Charlie's angels and expected to be a john. Licari destination waited. Isn't i'm afraid not. No the the pilot was of course yes. Of course imploding ensler. I mean lovely great watch. I enjoyed it so much but what we started this focus. One thing i said was. I'm a lot more of a pub cone all view. I like my big action. Set pieces and schlaug and messiness and that fun feeling if guidance in the mall we'd have to sink too much about the film's This is the perfect example. This is it. this is called cinema. Oh it is pure popcorn cinema yet like it's just aimed to entertain and it's it's specific in its choices. And i think that specificity is what makes fans of the movie really love it. And what makes people who aren't vibing with it really annoyed and i'm as demographics might not like this film but i think as a general opinion you gotta count me as one of the ones it does. That's that's awesome to hear. Yeah yeah i mean by to my my thoughts about it is a kid. I think a lot of this film is targeted at that. Solve teenage boy in As i mentioned the sexualization of it kung fu heavy metal takeout food and goes in scantily clad outfits. Yeah i mean. I was actually pretty shocked when the movie started with a q. From the corn song blind. I was like really. They were kicking off with corn music. That's bizarre yeah. I i soon as i heard. Oh wow this is like it reminded me of a triple x. Recently oh yeah and that film starts out with again. A new model soundtrack i thought. Oh wow they're really it's really of it's time so dated itself straight away but somehow works because then you make like heaven must be michigan angel in two scenes on. Its winking at the camera the whole time. There are a lot of songs with the word angel in them in this movie. I including two songs made for this film won by destiny's charlotte. I think yeah okay. The arrowsmith one was actually made for this movie. I think so. I hadn't heard it before. And so i had this and i do. Listen to a bit arrowsmith. If i'm wrong guys. There's a lot of aerosmith purist. That are very angry. Right now Yeah the the the the three fans have left. Yeah i mean it's kind of hard for me to like. I can pick this vilma pau as soon as like our post vice level that so many problems with it. Surprises me when you say do. They didn't have a script going into it. Because it feels complete phil. I think that has a lot to do with. I mean mckee is a music video director and this movie is like almost comprised of music video moments. And i think it's a plot through moments I don't think the overall story really it's pretty threadbare where it's this like. Voice recognition technology that has been Potentially stolen by avila played by tim curry. But it's actually the tech mastermind who created it that is behind it and it's he's played by sam rockwell and i did love that they You know the villain wants to use cellphones. As a homing device like boy. How innocent we were back in two thousand yet. That did make me. Kind of giggle ashley. How the world has changed but ultimately like the plot to me is just kinda rushed through it and so it's a little convoluted and confusing but it just barrels on through through all these montages and video moments and a lot of what i would Made a note here sitcom situations. It's like introduce moment. Have something comedic. Go on cut the scene after like two minutes or something. Move on like this movie It does not waste time. It just picks endless moments does what it wants to do with that individual moment and moves on like it doesn't dwell and we'll talk about the pilot for this the original charlie's angels which does a lot of dwelling this movie. Doesn't i this will be does no You know it does not rest at any point in barrels forward. I would agree with you. I would say the end battle. Maybe outside sizes welcome. I agree that's where i said. They could shop a couple of minutes out of the back half of this movie. That's where my you know. It's the sort of movie that. I think you want to stick to that ninety minute runtime because it gets a little bit grading and exhausting after a certain point and i was feeling a bit when we got to those final action moments but you know Ninety minutes is tough to complain about. I'm a little concerned that the next one is longer. That is something that fills me with a little bit of apprehension. But i'll have to judge that movie on. Its own terms when we get to it but this i thought was a pretty good ninety eight minutes. The move quickly. Hopefully it's more like the the snyder slowing march stuff. We can only hope the seventy things. I like about this film. I kind of want to highlight them. I mean even from the start the film you said that. They had the script for the opening scene as they had. Yeah that is a massive bond. Montage is it's a bond opening. If i have a disease one. Well this also feels like the era. Where a lot of More you fulfil makers were looking at james bond. Being like this franchise is getting old. You know the year before you had world is not enough which may be feels a little a little Dusty compared to what you know. A lot of young audiences are into. This is like the britney spears era spice girls arab. You know all the boy bands like there's an energy going on in pop culture that i don't think they were seeing reflected in the james bond franchise and so you have this movie very much embracing that sort of pop aesthetic triple x. Doing that but also some of the new metal or hip hop statics like it feels music videos at this point in time so many music video directors were crossing into hollywood and it feels like that generation of filmmakers coming in and saying like these classics spy movies. Like the pretty old timey the for our parents. We wanna make things our own mold. Charlie's angels feels like part of that. I mean drew. Barrymore was twenty four when she produced this movie. This is someone who would have their finger on the pulse. twenty four. yeah that actually makes a lot of sense And i totally one thing. I was talking to someone else recently. About was how. I felt that was period where music videos were fantastic. And now i just feel it don't matter anymore which is actually around about this time. Two thousand two thousand one. This is like the era of. I think i don't remember which music video was whether it was like a brittany spears wine or something. It was like really expensive. It was like one point five million for a music video or something like that like they were putting huge money into these videos. I think it was a pretty fly for a white guy by the offspring who it was. No no no. I might have about five bucks. That was it might be oops. I did it again video or something rarely possibly a fair enough. But i mean with the music videos. They were a big part of my childhood. So obviously having this guy who could create the visual those intense three minutes and then he's he knows he can. He has to leave. He knows he has no more energy in the scene. And i really appreciate that as a director. He's not trying to drag anything out. No i mean he's a guy who's you know driven to design like three or four minute little narratives and if you actually watch like the corn. Got the life video. A lot of the energy of that video feels like the same things. He's doing here like that. Vibe is pretty similar so what do you think if we just so hypothesizing for a second because there's other stuff i like but i'm curious to how this music video director has met with this producer. And she's she's quite young knows what is going on in the in the of the pulse of the nation and how it created this film i it just seems such a contrast of styles but to create is major motion. Picture just walks. I think drew must really just have loved. Charlie's angels while she was a huge fan of the seventies show. As i mentioned upfront so like i think she knew the kind of the bubble gum james bond type of movie. She wanted to make And you know the fact that she put together. This is a real. She knew the tone she wanted me to be. And i think he was able to deliver that and she probably saw something in his music video work. That translated to the vision of the movie is i. I didn't think about any of this when i was watching it a couple of times a so fascinating to think about this whole music videos. Say because i really didn't know about this but you're right. The film is just little interludes The i will get to my criticisms. Now i feel like one of the things bumps on is it. Has these subplots for our angels about their love interests. Yeah i mean. They completely ancillary sure. But are they any different than like james bond meeting with sylvia. Trench at the start of a bond movie. I kind of like that all the male roles whether they're played by matt leblanc or Luke wilson they are secondary just kind of like a glimpse into their personal life It's type of subplots that if in a male driven action hero you would have had a female character that was basically nothing role. See i see that i understand. That gives them some sort of carrot developments plots not necessarily giving them. But i also feel like it's why did we have to talk about love. Lives yeah drew. Barrymore actually address this so she said that originally there wasn't these sort of side plots she said. Why can't we have it all. Why can't we have the careers and the happy home lives. Let's do it all. I mean my ladies. Can you hear me fair enough. Yeah there you have it connacht. I kind of love the casting when you have. These guys played by these other actor. Matt leblanc's the luke wilson's autom- green in a very brief cameo role. These are not like the Dominant male actor types. You would see in a lot of action movies. Like i like that. They feel more like a little more passive in their representation on screen. It's different and it gives them. It doesn't take away any of the spotlight then off. The three female leads like they are very much the dominant personalities in all of those relationships and that feels pretty ahead of its time at least for that era. They ought definitely centerstage anew. I appreciate that these. These ancillary love interest is so of orbit around the angels and they are on the back for every time is always are quite like does never seen what really the angels are surprise particularly. They seem to always be in the know which i think is don't say progressive. Think film should be doing this now. And then anyway but it was refreshing. Imagine time yeah. I mean it did get definitely Called out a lot for that that it did feel like a kind of a different idea like it felt like a breath of fresh air at time where you know a lot of the youth of the one thousand nine. Thousands were very appreciative of what this movie was trying to do. I think it's also just really interesting to look at the three lead to this movie. You look at what. Cameron diaz drew. Barrymore lucy lured. Doing i have to just say like watching it. Last night was amazed at how much they were locked in on these characters. Like there's not really much dimension to any of them they're all playing cartoon characters but all three actresses are going broke. Like many cameron diaz. Most of all. She's an actress. Who i think is often gotten some pretty bad rules over the years. It feels like a lot of directors. Don't know what to do with her. Don't give her very good material She is going for broke here in a performance that it's fearless like she is doing things that would make her look really ridiculous if you know presented badly in the movie but it is like a full comedic performance and it's pretty big. I tend to agree. I think she's really. She is trying. I would say though. I think drew barrymore's one for me in this film. A just feels like she's having an absolute blast the entire time. I mean she. Yeah i mean she gets to play it. As kind of the edgy one. But you have like moments where. She's like dancing to michael jackson. After a fight scene and things like that like there's a lot of goofy moments with her. It feels like with cameron diaz though they just gave her like we'll it cameron diaz in the mask right with jim carey in one thousand nine hundred four. That's her big breakthrough and it feels like she internalized some of the almost jim carey light performance style. It feels like what he's doing here is big comedy performance stuff and i was kind of thrown at just how like it feels like type of comedic performance that a lot of actresses kind of shy away from especially in this erin. She's just going nuts with it. See i saw her performance as kind of like. I don't because i loved it before. Listen this film. But i had already seen that with the something about mary Yeah that's all clots like not quite sure what's going on Likable way. Yeah like they player here as a genius whose total goofball i think. That's why probably drew barrymore what to move. Because i am edgy. Of course and it said i thi- four resonates with a sure. sure right. yeah. I will allergy. What one thing is is this a little bit. But that whole scene was her being Tied up at the end just before. She moved walks. Which you mentioned. Didn't that feel just like the scene with black widow in one of the cats in america films. I know it's the first avengers movie. Yeah that went through my head as well. Yeah i think she did it better. I think i think drew. Barrymore is the true black widow for me. Well scarlett johansson. Didn't moon walk out of the scene so arrigo that is inferior to what drew barrymore did. Sorry scott barrymore's in lieu was one. I had the grasp on like she plays the more serious grounded character. And i enjoyed the Secret identity Anxiety going on with her and her boyfriend played by matt long. Apparently playing joey from friends. It seems the actor who's like working on set i. I think that's what we were meant to do. I mean he's kept. His name is even cool. Jason yeah yeah. So the lucy liu and like they give her a lot of the really cool action stuff but she doesn't get the broad comedy stuff the other to get. I'm curious to see if they develop that more in the second one. She does seem so of the more reserved. One of the three. I mean she's also their. It specialist shows a little bit of happening in the film but then again cameron diaz. She does the old the old the assuming enhance but I on i think as a kid. I probably do more bit more. I think i also quite like lacy louis. I think i would agree with you to that. Drew barrymore was the one that i walked out. The first time thinking the star really was like i was the most drawn to that character. I think but watching it last night. I just had to admire what we so often give. Male actors huge amounts of praise for going wacky unscreened. You know whether it's like a joaquin phoenix and the joker earl a lot of the nick cage performances. When i was watching cameron diaz just go for it last night. I on the in this movie. I was like how i feel like. We probably owe her a lot more praise than she got at the time. It's hard to really criticize any of them. I think they all just nailed it. And i think that's probably the reason why the film walks because you're leads and the film's named off the east walk and apparently the three of got along really well and had a lot of fun filming it so i think that sort of enthusiasm among the three of them really does come across on screen and you buy them as friends onscreen. That's going to be a little bit of trust involved. I think as well Because drew obviously brought cameron. He's what he said. Yep an am Together they will maybe drew lucian as well said. They probably felt quite protected with drew. Because if if g is this the first film i imagine. He was probably leaning on his peers quite law and drew being the producer survive. Cameron and lucy felt kind of protected by that they wouldn't have given anything stupidity Right yeah and also it's pretty unusual to have a blockbuster fronted by three women as you know an an action film. That's not really something that happens in this era and so i would think that the three of them would feel somewhat bonded together and like. Let's pull this off. Like this is important and i think it's weird when you watched the movie now in two thousand. I think it had a lot of strength. Students seen a lot of movies of this era watching it. Last night was interesting. And i feel like a lot of what drew barrymore doing is really effective. Like you can tell it was important to her that these people feel like friends that they each of them have their own little worlds. Their own stories You know they have up front. You know like Character quirks but at the same time. You know you're working with g. And i feel like a lot of the aesthetics of movie are where the movie runs into issues like. There's a difference between i think berry more wants to do versus. How mc frequently shoots the women and this is a guy who works in music videos and music of this era they are all about the male gaze and this movie very frequently is all about male gaze on film yet the central scenes where they will just hang on show zooming particular areas unfortunately and maybe linger a little bit too long. I'm like crop out like the head like that's something that like a lot of mayo gays will makers will do where they'll focus on a female by and like literally cropped the actresses had out of the you know the shot and this movie does that sort of thing. There's a lot of weird moments like you know there's Cameron diaz has a whole kind of like mission impossible style seen breaking into a vault and doing gymnastics across this pressure sensitive floor but how does the scene start with her like bending over and just like mooning the camera and that's the sort of decision that like a male director would make but is far less likely to be seen in a female Are under the under the supervision of a female director and. I think it's actually going to be really interesting to compare this movie to the elizabeth banks. Charlie's angels movie will do a little bit further down the road. Yeah i agree. Actually i haven't seen that one salvaged Film guards the parents all in the same continuity Also i've been told but is interesting. You talk about this whole the mayo gays issue with this film because obviously we've got this director and he seems to be leaning on drew on the other time. I'm surprised she allowed of the shots to go on. Well is it just. It's the style of the time the fact is like there's like no female directors. There's not very many at this point. Working in film. Much less blockbusters. Like kathryn bigelow is around at this point. There's a couple. There's mimi leder. Who does like deep impact. But there's not very many and so most movies are filtered through the same sensibility. And so is that just like well. That's the style of the time is maybe that or maybe it's just that whole you know some some you like. She had to make concessions on shots to get some of her comedy. But also like you look at a lot of music of this era. That i think was influential and probably the making of this. You know a lot of the brittany stopped spice girls. It's very much about like owning sexuality in showing like. Hey i can you know we could put this on screen. And it's empowering and i think that's shifted in the year since so like i feel like maybe that's part of it. I really don't know to be honest with you. I'm going to put an article. That i came across called the complicated legacy of charlie's angels which was vanity fair article that it's actually really interesting. I'm gonna put a link to that in the show notes that maybe talk a little bit more about that. But it does feel like something that was progressive. Maybe in two thousand is now seen as somewhat fly but maybe at the time had strengths. That now are kind of lost to us which happens a low films. They seem progressive the time but then a couple years just removed at like what were they doing. Yeah like you can look at a lot of the cultural appropriation in this movie. And be like what the hell was in the water. Yeah it does have a set amount of issue that one in particular having lucy. Liu give Tim curry massa age others that and did you notice the closest of feet too. It's like oh boy. This is kind of awkward. And then you have like scenes where the other angels are dressed as gate like similar like Fits or something and it's like okay. That's a little weird but then later in the movie there's like a belly dancing and drew. Barrymore is in full brown. Face yet is so sort of hidden in shadows. but she's definitely in brownfield. Unfortunately yeah and even look at that opening where you have. Ll cool j. shop a cameo and then you know. Pull off a mascot. It's drew barrymore underneath. And you're like oh okay Boy okay sure. That was the only person of color basically in the film. you know. there's not many. Are there well other than the. Obviously lucy lose the lead which is very notable. But the yeah. Yeah yeah that's very true. But yeah a certain lack in the fallen. Although i do believe that changes in the sequel yes so a lot of the racial stuff in this movie is very very if i was actually kind of shocked watching it last night. It seems like i'm just continually shocked. Now revisiting some of these movies from the eighties nineties thousands. How long some of these You know Racially insensitive Approaches to filmmaking were continuing into years that are fairly recent. It really does shopping. It's bizarre right like you think of when i was watching films at this time in thirteen fourteen and you would see something made in the sixties narron in black face or in the fifties and regard that so of his time even in the year two thousand and now twenty years removed. Apparently they were still doing it. Yeah we didn't. We didn't say anything about it now. Now and i'm sure you know if you dig deep. There's probably reviews of this movie at the time. That would call that out but it feels like a lot of what he wants to do is just be like silly popcorn without actually thinking about some of the more problematic aspects like. It's just like don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Just barely through never mind. There's a scene of the three angels engage outfits scored to the song turning japanese. Yeah and you think about like thing about tenant for instance the attendance phrases. Don't think about it just feel it now. Tenant actually wants you to think about it. Unfortunately this film genuine doesn't want you to think about it. I think if you actually stop and think about a lot of it it becomes a lot more problematic and this is what happens to our po- costs about this film. Yeah no kidding. I think we should probably move on to some of the other characters. Because we've got some big names that we barely spoken about we some bill murray of playing the role of bosley which was from the original. Tv shows kind of like the middle man between the angels. And charlie. I think he's just playing bill. Murray although it lacks that sort of spark of genius often get from bill. Murray appearances even in cameos his appearance. Zombie land which is like legendary. Here he's fine. I kind of like when he gives a speech about like weightlifting as if anyone should be giving a speech about weightlifting who looks like bill. Murray like i kind of love that aspect but a lot of this movie is just like him locked in a room muggy and just doing silly things and i'm like okay like it's fine but he feels pretty in essential to the movie. It just reminds me of the old. The old men in black two thing which is too often. I think but that where they just got. Hey will smith vamp oh yeah and this is just hey bill just make stuff up. We'll if there's no script on this movie really. Are you know very loose you know Assemblage of pages. They are following. I can kind of by a lot of it was hey bill. Murray do something funny. Yeah i think he does deliver some funny. One liners get moment. But it's not exactly going to go on the highlight reel nine two. I nev- we have sam rockwell. Who starts out as meant to be. He's captured. I believe Allegedly captured that. He is the overarching bad guy and apart from a very bizarre dancing scene. I didn't really feel samra on the show. I felt like he wasn't really particularly here. Will present okay. That dancing scene is amazing. I think that dancing is one of the greatest moments in fill in film. History has has horrible like circular camera thing that hate when they do that in films Pans around him like he's he's a good guy beginning of the scene in it pans round drew. Barrymore he's instantly like sunglasses on smoking a cigarette and danzig seventies song. Like a high got ya. I got ya and that was funny. But then i denied the rest of that. Just did it for me. I don't know. I really like sam rockwell. In this i kind of agree. He's not the most fine early on music playing she kind of nerdy dude but once he likes like breaks out in the supervillain dancing and camping. It up. I think he's so much fun and He has that. Yeah in the castle at the end I don't know what song is playing. It's sort of like techno song and he's just like dancing Typing on a computer like this is pure rockwell. I wanna get a gif of the when he turns on drew barrymore annette. I saw him dancing in the vest with sunglasses on that that i feel that's got really good gift potential but Yeah i to me much. I was more focused on what the angel that was more interesting. These movies often depend on the strength of their villain. I think san rocco pretty memorable and we've talked about someone's like remo williams is fairly recently who are just like black holes of charisma To me sam. Rocco is just like he's just like a star ready to burst into flame in this movie. It's really interesting. Because i actually caught. Remember the bad guy in remo williams who could who could walk worked for me but he clearly worked for you obviously his his hench woman for the film is a vivian. Would play by kelly lynch and she gets out of the fu scene at the end as well. Yeah i like seeing the fight scene there with her at the end. that was pretty cool to see Not the personality like of some like this is a movie where everyone's personality is turned up to a hundred except for like her character is played as more of a grounded character on so she does her job she's the villain but she does take kind of the you know the passenger seat to Sam rockwell's more can't be character at a certain point. But i thought she was pretty solid and i believe during the fight scenes. Yeah absolutely i. She must have done some training. To and i mean until her demise at the end of question more question mafia but she's not really the heavy of the film. The heavy is plagued by one crispin. Glover who you might remember from back to the future who is great and apparently his character actually had dialogue in the original scripted pages and he was like take it out. I don't wanna do that and so he wanted to play. This is an entirely silent character and he is really weird like if you want weird higher crispin glover and he will deliver. I think he's pretty great. This movie he pulls off some of the really ridiculous martial arts sequences really. Well the weird stuff with him light smelling hair is a very effective in establishing what a creep this guy is. He is the type of bond henchman character. You see a lot of movies. Wanna try to recreate. But he really does pull it off. And it's notable that his father. Bruce glover was one of the villains out one of the henchmen. Mr boy was it mr winter mr kit. I don't i think it's mr went in. Diamonds are forever. I think you're right. Now thank you all right. I he was one of the his. His character of creepy thin man was one of the things. I remember distinctly from watching it as a as a kid. I just thought he was. The whole thing was super cool. If not a bad guy. I thought he was cool. I also had his hair a time. Yes oh there's a reason. They brought him back in the sequel. Yeah absolutely and i. I will tell you a funny story so i have once had an ex. Give me a lock of their hair. Wow that's the actually is a thing. Apparently people enjoy it. Okay well there you have it. I wasn't sniffing it every night. Though i i that was not happening. Okay well i'll sleep better knowing that. Luckily i'm bold. Now see you call and get mine camp. The there goes my master plan for when i visit the uk. There is some happy. You want to carry that around with you. Right right barring that tim curry. Of course. yeah. I mean tim. Curry is totally playing. Tim curry in this movie and he's pretty fun. I thought it was really strange to see. Melissa mccarthy pop up in a very small role as doris at the tech firm run by Decrease character that was kind of crazy. Obviously she has a future in spy films. But where was she around the time. 'cause gilmore girls that was on the air this point that. Yeah that's around this era Melissa mccarthy is definitely not a star this point. She was one of those. I didn't expect to see and i was like. Oh ms mccarthy and it's just gone again but she get funding yup. She did and this movie's pretty notable for having those kind of like blink. And you'll miss it kind of moments where you have like most of mccarthy appearance you have a lot of like film movements that are paying tribute to classic films. You had like the house from. Et shows up at a certain point where two kids are in the house and drew. Barrymore comes up to the sliding glass window. They have a racist pieces in a bowl in the shot. You also have house from. Ut it is. Yeah oh wow yeah. There's yeah there's all these weird moments they also have a. There's a scene where Cameron diaz does like a hair flip in front of luke wilson and in the camera does the jaws shot of these zooming into luke. Wilson is the background pulls away As i referenced earlier you have bill. Murray doing the great escape scene where he's throwing the ball against the wall You have a matrix bullet at one point with the The the rippling effect coming off the bullets flying through the air. This movie has a lot of references to popular movies and also. Ll cool j. During the mission impossible face removal yet. Yeah and also that whole volt seen felt very mission impossible. Well i always remember. That seemed being rift. On jayjay and silent bob strike back of all films. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah ended differently. But there's also a A reference to harry potter drew. Barrymore is dressed like harry potter in a moment and this was before the movies come out. She was just a big fan of the books. Apparently calm you're picking up a lot more things than i did might. It's a very blink and you'll miss it kind of Cameo with that harry potter thing for sure what seems to be talking around about the same time period in the film. What did you think about the whole like fake naked. Drew barrymore or fake. It as i write down as do you mean when she's hanging from the house thing lead to the drop in it's like and she's clearly not she's wearing a suit or whatever but that was a really weird choice for the film. That's not the way. I would have shot it because yeah it's one of the The tan bodysuits. You see them all the time Arsenal andrews has one is well in dr know when they're going through the the disaffected shower kind of area of doctor knows layer pretty common but yeah it was a weird choice. Actually shoot that from a ball of where it's like very obvious I would probably obscured it a little more in played it more for comedy i think in that moment yeah i give me one of the great scenes of all time with drew barrymore coming up on a bicycle in his stone. Cold steve austin teasha. Oh yeah yeah good goal. I felt like. I was back in two thousand by that point because i was wearing those sacked. Close right okay well. Is there any of things you didn't like about the plot that we haven't touched on yet. I mean the plot is just such a like when we're talking about on this podcast about spy plots. This was not the most involving one. It is just a clothesline. For a lot of goofy situations like how does cameron diaz dancing at soul train thai into the spy. It doesn't it's just like let's just throw a wacky moment in there and You know the the spy plot stuff is very disposable. Yeah i it's one thing i'd like try and do when with dealing with these may be spy adjacent films not justify its choice but maybe point out some of the spice stuff now. There are people going to cover this film. They are private detective agency. Basically are they. That's what i was so baffled. By because yes that is the entire concept of the tv show which will talk about a minute a but they don't really seem to do detective jobs. It seems like they're more like super spies. Espn more like superheroes by the film. But i say. I got the idea that they were more like detectives because they are figuring out clues. They do end up infiltrating. Tim curry business. Which is for the whole Lucy liu as a dominatrix scene comes from. But yeah i see. I see him as private detectives with this by work. That's where i come down on. okay. Yeah i mean. I felt like they really blurred the line. Because that's something to show doesn't do i think the really establishes that they're detectives go undercover this movie just off the opening where they're like diving out of planes and all that sorta stuff. I'm like this is definitely not detective work. I feel that whole thing in the beginning. Was there to make you go like this. Ain't your daddy's charlie's angels. Oh totally. yeah. Yeah that's gotta be what i said. Well i think we're kind of at the point before we join talk about the tv show. Yeah let's go for it scott. I'm first of all curious. Sorry buddy sorry talk. Yeah okay god god. Had you ever watched. The charlie's angels showed. Does it have any sort of reputation over in the uk No i imagine it was a thing here in the uk. 'cause this film was pushed really heavily. So that must have been some sort of knowledge vice for charlie's angels but it's not something i your replayed on daytime tv here it doesn't exist. Yeah like it's fairly iconic. In north america. The music the pose of the three women doing the guns. You know holding We've all seen that silhouette shot but it was definitely not something that i was exposed to at all But it is a thing but scott. I'm curious did you find watching the. I think you gave it away. But watching the pilot for the charlie's angels tv show from nineteen seventy-six. Hot dog that was rough. I was a. I mean if that was the pilot they were selling to. Tv channels to get it picked up. I have no idea how this film might is such a departure from each other so different diametrically different. Yeah because when you watch the man from uncle pilot. I think you can see that. It's a fairly straight line from that to the movie. They've definitely taken some liberties and the iliad character wasn't set up very well in the pilot. That's something that came later as the show develops but in terms of energy invive go pretty hand in hand versus the charlie's angels pilot. It's very slow and we really are just set up the concept i you know. I don't think that like even the three leads have very strong characteristics at all. Maybe that comes with the ensuing episodes but off the bat. I was like okay. I understand the roles are playing. But i understand what really differentiates them as characters. So i found that kind of weird and it's really just about a A a man's ex wife is trying to claim his Money and a state with her new boyfriend after they have murdered him. And so the angels are brought in to expose this woman and her boyfriend and return the estate to the daughter who is the rightful heir to the property. And that's all well and good. As a case to investigate. It has some twists and turns but like seventy five minutes of characters like wandering around a house. They really distracted out. It could have been a fifty minute story in the middle. Some interesting scenes the beginning in the back end is the the interesting and so of juicy stuff is whenever they're talking to charlie oh talking to bosley or the other catch common name o. Or he's talking about Yes scott woodville. Play by david ogden. Stiers who was actually the conductor in the man with one red shoe that character was actually cut after the pilot. 'cause they decided it didn't make sense to have these two male liaisons characters. They just cut it down to bosley that makes sense But that's not quite energetic but as soon as it's actually doing the quote unquote investigation luck the whole show just grinds to a halt and it's go people like dianne doreen and people will know where big star trek fans as well and she was in second season next generation as main cost an author has a spy haden's alumni told me jones Yeah as as a love interest. But there's just no energy to it. Although there was done and i can appreciate that like. I thought like kate jackson was actually. She stood out the most to me having the early scenes where she's going in and selling this whole ruse of she's trying to Present herself as this long. Lost daughter to these to this conniving couple. And i thought she was pretty effective. The movie had a shot where they were going to poison her with milk. And that shot where they're carrying the milk up. The stairs is actually a reference to the hitchcock movie suspicion. That actually jumped out to me. I was the most excited about that of anything in this pilot when they're trying to do something that isn't this makes sense. Yeah like when they're carrying the milk and it's doing the close up of the milk. I'm like oh my god. This is the exact shot from suspicion. That's really cool. But by the end when wander around the louisiana swamps i was like holy smokes like this is a very drawn out show and that is sort of a i find to be a seventies tv thing. I tend to respond better. I think to sixty tv which the man from uncle had a really good pace like it. Move right Yeah it was quite enjoyable. You would lead. Who's very engaging and it was fun. I talked about any of the things. Maybe the leaves were engaging the angels were fine. Yeah but i find like a lot of seventies. Tv has much more of that laid back hanging out vibe and if you're enjoying the characters that's all well and good but there's not a lot of actual character work going on in the show and so it's just like really leisurely pace well. I can't speak for the rest of the show but this won't felt very much like a modem mystery who done it kind of thing because they are locked in this house more or less nadu powell but then mostly inhabiting this house right and so it's it's people you don't care about talking to other people you don't know don't care about and so you care you think of a so you think you have a film like knives out the rian johnson recently with some fantastic costs and you care about all of the main characters So you actually invested to find out in the end. Who did right. I didn't care. Yeah and i was actually really interested. I talked to my friend. Parv about this. 'cause she grew up watching Charlie's angels a lot. And i said like i watched the pilot. I was kind of struck at how different it was from the movie version. And she said that actually the later episodes of the show got much more into the what you see in the movie. More of this like scantily clad kind of cheesecake style stuff. But that's not really there in the pilot. The pilot was played much more self serious. That was my suspicion. I had read like a review of this film. We're talking about but whether they referenced. Tv shar. i just said that the like the shriver's biologically scantily clad women gain out of situations right like mcgivering. Their way out which this movie feels more. Like so i can. I can see that line. But i just think maybe the pilot was unfortunate point in this shows development where they hadn't found their the tyrone sure or at least found what people would enjoy the most about the show. I guess yeah because it's not it's not like lightly comedic either like it does really just kind of drag so. It's the type of thing when i was done. I was like well. This is not a journey. I'm gonna continue. I don't have any plans to watch more. Charlie's angels episodes but man from uncle really did grab me. Yeah i won't be picking up that box unfortunately no no. I'm okay cam. Did you have any final thoughts or comments about charlie's angels. I thought it was kind of funny when they had the moment on the plane. The start where the t j hooker movie was being advertised and then they joke about. Tv shows being turned into movies. That kind of made me smile. It did make me smile. It turns out that was in the trailer. Okay so that was the beginning of one of the trade. Is i watch the film and so i guess they use that as kind of like a hook. The hallway fruit But i i guess it was a fun judge. The other thing. I wanted to touch on to was the wire fu which i found only less grading than i expected like. I thought it would be really awkward looking but i thought most of it was done. Well like the fight in the alley with crispin. Glover was pretty strong. That fight at the castle at the end. Though is i think the most glaring example of it where it does feel pretty It just kind of lax. All impacted feels like being swung through the air on cables much more than it should. Yeah i think the the drew barrymore fight as she's in the chair and then she's bound Feels very weird. Uncanny valley feeling. You know it's not physically possible for her to get headache that way without a wire. And she's like she's jumping swinging across the seating from indiana jones. But like she's making leaps that you know she's just being pulled toward she's she's even grabbing stuff. Yeah and you'll also see like there's one fight where like cameron diaz is like flying through the air and she's like kicking her legs multiple times through the air. And you're like this feels strange to be fat cam. Neither a martial arts experts. That's true that is true. Maybe we just have an unlocked power. Yeah i mean. We didn't train for like months on end eight hour days. So maybe that is all achievable. And we're just too lazy to achieve it. We certainly lazy okay. I have two questions for econ okay. Firstly from like your review of memory of watching as a kid coming now. Do you remember the film being the sole of sexual year. Yeah that you were happy with it will like he didn't surprise you know it didn't surprise me at all revisiting it last night now i. I honestly don't know whether thirteen fourteen year old just wasn't paying attention particularly at the time. Because i was completely baldo with some of the choices. Well i will say like a lot of choices would never be made in the movie. Nowadays it feels very much of that era by. It didn't shock me at all that that's what they were doing in two thousand. I mean this. The same weather a driveway like a formula one race. Track something like that. And you've got drew barrymore The steering wheel the guy and the guy's basically climaxing in the seat next to her. Yeah what this was made for kids will. It does a lot of that where it's kind of like the gag is the angels. Do something hyper sexualize and guys are were like they just kind of do you know it's the classic you know dudes are dumb kind of thing which we've tackled in other movies and it does a lot of that for its comedy and it didn't shock me but it is the again the way that mckee is shooting the actresses and this is something that i just. Don't think a studio with do now. I'm glad for that. It's interesting you talk about. The whole a minority is thing. Because that's that's that's what i noted down was matahari. Yeah she was. She was a fan fa towel and she used her womanly prowess win mantova. But it's nowhere near the sexual and it doesn't need to be. Yeah we're going to be looking at some more serious examples of that sort of trope as well in movies. Like red sparrow with jennifer lawrence at some point in the future There's quite a number of them but This one is like going for that. That sort of cheesecake kind of silliness that you saw so much in that era i mean it is there in like you know the pre spears music videos the the spice girls music videos. It just feels like it's a little more amped up here but it also feels very recognizable to me from that era. Yeah i is always time certainly site with candles in charlie's angels. Maybe it's all just part of getting old though scott let you're supposed to be outraged at the entertainment aimed at youth at a certain point. And maybe we've hit that That age limit where it suddenly like all this youth. Culture stop is terrifying to us. Why do you need to remind me of my eighteen. Can time is the fired which bird unfortunately is like well. I have one last question for you before we get to the end. And you know you look at things like sex in the city and people are always talking about like way person sections the eu. A us samantha. I dunno anymore names but yeah you get the idea so my questions you cam which angel you. Oh my god okay Maybe we should choose for each other. Like which would do you think. Is we all choose for you. Maybe that's more of the The appropriate choice. Okay i used to think about your onto cab. I kind of am Okay i can talk about mind first and then in use yeah go Cam is the guy who puts these episodes together. I talk a lot of nonsense. He makes me sound moderately. Good okay. I am so. He's a genius with that but he's also choir cool calm and collected guy. I've never seen cam get particularly irate. Excited animated or feel anything. Really just numb. He's dead inside exactly except for that one time. He shook hobos hand. But we'll we'll talk about that another time so for me. I think i'm going to go with lucy liu in her dominatrix character. Oh my god that that is you or just loosened his character. Alex sure at it's cool. I think that think that's you. I think that's like cool calm and collected cool calm and collected. Oh i do have a lot of secret identity anxiety that does make sense. Okay so okay. So that takes her off the board. Then i think for you. god this is really tough. Definitely not cameron diaz. I guess by default. I would have to say the drew barrymore one S i like you know your history of enjoying like Like sort of edgier music. You had your goth period and what have you. I think that ties more into the drew. Barrymore angel you're big wrestling fan for a long time. I think this character would be too. She's wearing a stone cold shirt. So i think the drew barrymore character is definitely the one. You are Dylan dylan i think. I'm moonwalking out this one as the best at least at least you have matt leblanc. Have tom green. Chad is never enough. No no poor. Tom green is diagnosed with testicular cancer. While shooting this movie. So jas yeah. He had a rough go with this production. He was doing treatment during the shoot. So pretty pretty good tough story. Wasn't he married to revive. And i don't remember if they were married or if they were just together for handful years but yeah they wear a couple for a while. I have no complaints about him in this film. He's a bizarre character. Panettone greens known for that and he's best in small doses and you only get a couple of minutes of him here and that's just perfect. I say the same thing about again. Thank you thank you okay. I think it's question time. I think this could be interesting. Cam is charlie's angels making the noc list. It's a no for me Like i thought this was a movie. That was energetic. It had some fun. But i just don't think it's i don't think it's a particularly great spy movie like i could say the leads are fun. the movie has energy but as i said like it kind of wears out. Its welcome The plot is not much there. And there's a lot of material that is kinda cringe inducing now So for me. It's kind of like. I would recommend people watch it. I think it actually has some value. But it's not a movie that i would say belongs so you know on the alzheimer list. I am in two minds about this film. I really really enjoy it. I think it's a really fun film to watch i. If there's a group of people that defend this film stick me in that group. There are dozens of us. I think it's really fun. I think he doesn't take himself too seriously. I really appreciate that in a in a genre field of really serious films take deep analysis in every watching especially after about ten at recently having the rewards that so many times is so nice to just pick up a film like yeah. This is fun but unlike a cinematic level as a film i would recommend people go back and watch this again. I think it really is worth revisiting. Yeah i mean we talked about you. Know with men in black. That's a movie that knows what it is gets a concept across. But that doesn't mean when we don't put something on the nocholas it doesn't mean we don't like the movie it just means that it doesn't belong. In the pantheon of the all time greats. I recommend people watch us movie. I just you know like men in black it gets its concept across. But it's not an all time or movie for me. I will correct you cam. Sometimes it means that it's a bad movie to that too. I mean remo. Williams did not make the list and it was a bad movie. So there was no discussion with remo williams but yeah i think you're right though as a spy film. There is a spy thread and it stronger than some other films. We've tackled fall thoughts. I feel like it's just not very strong so for me. It's an but you know what we also said no to The man from uncle which was a fun movie as well like. I think you could do a lot worse than doing an evening. Watching movies like man from uncle. Charlie's angels you know men in black like some of these more light fun ones. And you know. I don't know that charlie's angels had like the cultural impact that say like our man flint had But it is a noteworthy movie with some value behind it and i think it Opened the door to a lot of better movies. And it's nice to see a female lead female driven film walk and is successful and it gets a sequel and everything's great about it. I like that. I wanna see more of that. Please but yeah i just i know if it holds up against west sure. I am genuinely excited. Though end some franchises we know it's diminishing returns like i can't say when we finished men in black that i thought boy can't wait to see where men in black two or three rigo whereas i really am genuinely curious to see how this franchise evolves going from this will be into the msci directed second one and then see how little bit banks takes us material and reformats it because when i saw the You know the elizabeth banks film you know a year or so ago. I had very little memories of this movie other than specific scenes. But now actually examining the style of this movie. I'm really excited to see how it's changed up in the In the reboot. I as usual. Haven't seen it so that will be fun. I it does. This does remind me of law in a lot of ways of the man from uncle like stylistically really enjoyed the film. I think he did the things right. It was fun punchy. It just sort fell flat in a couple of key areas to make the norquist but it gets a recommendation for me nonetheless to watch it. I think this. I think if you've just finished listening to this well done for making it way for each treat yourself with charlie's angels two thousand listen to that soundtrack. Great great acting Just a fun phil and that's exactly what it is. Although that's it. I could see a lot of people hating it. So it's it's an acquired taste. I would also say quite strongly while if you don't like it at me and tell me why well that you have it folks. Charlie's angels is not making the klis. And that's kick in your oss. Welcome before we talk about what we're doing next week. I pitt from three angels to three spooked girls and a quick message from them. Hey there i'm tara. And i'm just got together. We co hosts the podcasts three spooked girls if you love the paranormal or merger. Join us on mondays for full length episodes where we discuss our favorite paranormal stories and true crime cases and join us again thursdays for our minnie's called stabby snippets. We tell you all about true crimes happening in the news. You can find us on apple. Podcasts pod bean spotify wherever the hell elsie listen to your pods at. You can also find us on twitter. Instagram and facebook by using the handle at three spooked girls. Come and hang out with us and get your spooky on while we scare the hell out of you go three spooked girls available on all major podcast apps. Check them out. I love her normal stuff. And i'm going to check out this podcast for sure looking forward to it. Well cam. what do we have lined up for next week. Well we are going into the vaults the disney volts. No less to talk about a. I think Maybe not quite so remembered. Disney gem perhaps From nine hundred and seventy-five called one of our dinosaurs is missing. Starring. peter ustinov. Who was a disney player of the arab very popular in the various productions. So i'ma very curious to see what this will be is. Because i know next to nothing about it. Yeah i this is actually a scott. Pick so apologies ahead of time of is not very good. I was looking at like lesser-known spy films. I saw dinosaur in the title. Okay yeah. I thought that's the one for me. I mean condor. Men was a lot of fun so we'll see how our dinosaurs is missing. Turns out heartfully we are. Hopefully we find it. Were they guy folks your mission. Should you choose to accept. It is to check out. One of our dinosaurs is missing. Join us next week at. You can of course fun. Updates on the nautilus on letterbox com for slash spy hearts and for social media that i forget to follow us discreetly at spy haden's sp y h a r d s on facebook twitter instagram. But until next week listeners. Let's see if i can win the teddy bear.

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My perspective on values,family, and morals

Daily Perspective By Ben Holley

05:22 min | 8 months ago

My perspective on values,family, and morals

"If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. If everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor FM to get started. Thanks for listening. So if everybody took em to the Daily perspective podcast, my name is Benjamin Holly. You were listening to my perspective on all things books TV movies life related. I appreciate you listening and let's get started with today's today's session So we're back welcome again to the Daily perspective podcast. So my podcast today is talking about just bought this movie that just got me and and this movie is very I think it's going to be my my new favorite movie and that is it's called honey, boy was written by Sheila buff and not you know, everybody talks about this movie and you know talks about movies that that move them now. I'm a big I'm a somewhat like a sensitive birth, but you know teddy bear but I might my favorite movies are Nicholas Sparks movies and everybody talks about, you know, you know, everybody's like them chick flicks had a hamster like, you know, when I was a kid little story when I was a kid my mom. I'm I'm like the first child of the family and my mom had taught me these chick flicks and make me you know, Go watch them with her and you know, I watched all the Charlie's Angels movies with Cameron Diaz, you know song Drew Barrymore Lucy Liu all those I wouldn't seen those and I like them and you know, my mom kind of just got me into the whole thing with them and you know, I see all kinds of movies. That's what this podcast is going to be. So interesting is as you know, man's you know view of this and I you know, I've watched all the Nicholas Sparks movies. Like I said, I watched the choice the last song The Notebook I've seen Yeah, not all of them. But most of I think there's two of them that I haven't seen but that's my biggest. You know, my biggest thing I like to do is I like Nicholas Berg kinds of shows masculinity with feminism and you know and talks about how you know vulnerability and you know off and in an interview that I read watch with them talking about the gifts and the romantic things that he's ever done. He can write a good story, you know are good and love notes to pass some some people. I think that's another big thing I can do is, you know, I I myself do have a A remains against myself and a romantic V. I really do. I'm I'm am I guess you get a whole book hopeless romantic, you know, that's my biggest. you know, my biggest thing that being said, you know, honey boy is probably one of the most Inspirational movies that I've watched in probably the last five years it is probably it'd be that and then it'd be blind wage which is my second favorite inspirational movie. And yeah, this podcast is only about five minutes long years can just a random get-go type of thing. So with that being said, I hope everybody has a great night and thanks for listening to the Daily perspective. Thanks for listening to me rant. There's nothing really going on. This is off and I'm the next my next podcast. I hope to be more organized and be more more yeah more organized, but everybody has a great day and look forward to to working with you and seeing and not put more product and more podcast out there. All right, everybody. Have a great one.

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Who Is Your Celebrity "Saltmate"?

On Air with Ryan Seacrest: The Post Show

05:37 min | 6 months ago

Who Is Your Celebrity "Saltmate"?

"Want breakfast guys. let's go. I'm leaving for mcdonald's and five seconds. Why the breakfast emptied meal. It's only at mcdonald's where there's some veal for every morning and nothing says morning like a classic sausage mcmuffin with egg right. Now get this all time favorite for just two bucks on the three dollar menu. Price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal vodka. Bcs in dynamite one or two point. Seven kiss fm. We are going to pay another bill just a few more days left and we announce the grand prize winner for. Pay your bills for a year. That happens this month so patty and i we call each other. Sultanate's why is that patty because we have a lot of things in common that are not typical to have for example. What that's a good question. I think it's more like inside. Us can really describe it. We just know and especially food. Let's talk marriage. You and i don't feel pressure to be buried right. We like we like to be with somebody and committed but we don't need feel the pressure to marry like everybody else trying to push us to do around here all. Yeah exactly you know who you are. Have who you are. So that's an example me or it's mere tanya if both of you did i are not going to succumb to the pressure. That's right you stay underground. I don't feel. I need the title. I don't need okay. Well the weekend could could be. Both of your soul mates. I feel like i need that. Why okay what can i tell you. Okay so he the weekend and more luma. They teamed up for this track they did. It's hawaii they say a lot sexier in the song but The weekend things and spangler by way and it's so good have a clip. If you wanna play that. Toyota christmas spangling. The beginning of it is an english. But i'm gonna doubt planet wasn't it at the beginning of the song. Yeah it was. Just i want to read that too because this is where it comes in so i'm listening to the song and i'm reading the lyrics and the weekend says this at the top of the song says all this because i said i don't want marriage i'd rather go half on a baby because at least i know that it's not temporary and at least will share something that's real. I was like holy shook when i heard these lyrics because i was like. Oh my gosh. I wonder if he heard ryan talking about it on the air and he was just like i feel the exact same way and then he wrote these lyrics because he feels the exact same way. I never really said. I'd go half on a baby. Those words didn't quite come out of my mouth but what he's essentially saying he would rather have a have a baby then get married is essentially what he's saying the song and so i didn't really say but when did you say i said i don't necessarily subscribe to the all the conventional ways that people pressure you to do things in life with relationship and kits kind of which is what he's wanting a child. Here's what i decided you want kids. But i don't know how that's going to happen yet. Now select child's the top of the list. Yeah probably more important than marriage to me. Whoever going about the weekend actually so anyways. I just thought it was like it was crazy. Eureka moment and then it led me down this path and wanting to find like oliver celebrities all mates. So i did a little digging and i think that mine is cameron diaz and albert einstein because they were big believers in zodiac these felt mates with albert einstein on. This report really needed that laugh this morning. Check on anyone else. I just just a thought. She knows much. She knew that she was somehow related. Albert einstein it was over that was it. It was kind of drop the mic moment. You know. I wonder the weekends ever seen that series. My two dads. I don't think i've seen it. I haven't heard of it just picture yours. Truly and the weekend as the two debts. I love it. We could bring it back. We can make it a hulu. Sirius describe the weekend. I raising a baby living together. People might watch on hulu. Yeah and he'd be down to what we're not playing ourselves. We were actors a even better. So it's really like the weekdays coming out her coming up. We're gonna pay bill torrance. Zanny breakfast guys. let's go. I'm leaving for mcdonald's and five seconds the breakfast stampede meal. It's only at mcdonald's where there's a meal for every morning and nothing says morning like a classic sausage mcmuffin with egg right. Now get this all time favorite for just two bucks on the one. Two three dollar menu price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer or combo meal vodka.

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Winslet Wellness Check

Absolutely Not

59:59 hr | 4 months ago

Winslet Wellness Check

"The phone rang. Podcast is a deer media. Production welcomed the absolutely not podcast. Where we do the most in the lease at the same damn time. I'm your host. Heather mcmahon ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of the absolutely not might. I'm your host. Heather mcmahon. I am thrilled to be here. This is our year in review. Our last podcast. The year i can't believe it. I mean we've all said it wears this year gone. Where did it go. I'm not trying to sound cliche or cheesy. But isn't it wild. I think it's almost like an entire year was just completely thrown out the window but in a weird weights and entire year that i think is brought everybody together or more divided than ever. I dunno haven't been to a protest in a while. But you know what i'm saying. It's been a fucking wild roller coaster of emotions. We did it together. Listen i was looking at some year end. Stats this podcast. Grooving like four hundred and twenty five percent in australia shat. All my ozzy's thrilled to becoming. They ought wayne on my way to do a strenuous accent. You just have to make everything sound like a question. So like say a statement like oh. I love all of christmas but if you make it sound like a question you do nosy accent. Now really truly. If it means like the the viewership the listenership grew four hundred twenty five percent. That just means i had zero listeners. Now have four hundred twenty-five ozzy's who listen to me. I think that's how stats work. Big crown the uk out. I love you mean it. I can't believe. I was looking at some of those people in brazil peru. Listen to this. I in kate wake to visit. I just feel that as a collective as this world together. We're i really think it's like a once in a lifetime. Thing where everybody in the entire world has experienced some sort of similar thing like everybody went through this. You have like fucking plagues droughts and shit in africa. And you got this country overhears fucked up. We got a war over there. Everybody went through this weather. They took it seriously or not. Everybody went through this. Which means and i quote next year. People are getting fucked up yameen. It's going to be kind of a cool thing instead of all remember when all the celebrities like colin singing magin. Oh that people. Give a gale godot and like ryan fully bay for some fucking reason singing together and it's like what this is not what we need. We need a giant universal keg party at the end of this sometime next summer preferably after my wedding and we have one day where it's like universal. Just everybody kick your feet up whether you're sober you drink whatever. Sit down make yourself a mock tail. Everybody just sits and as a fucking cocktail together and goes what the fac and we all go. God a collective sigh if you will. We're in this together. I have so many boys to get to. But i just want to break something down real quick because i think we've had all his extra time to sit at home and really kind of inward and also look outward like what do we want from our life. And how can we change. But it's also made me hypercritical. I watched the movie. The holiday which love actually is more my cup of tea in the elf the elves. You know what. I mean the alphabet the will ferrell's was watching the holiday with my mom in bed. And ricky tony just fart and his face off and he's snore and being adorable and watching the holiday and listen. I couldn't say it on instagram. Because i do like cameron diaz as new wine alva- lean and. I think she's great. She's cool. she has street cred. She married one of the man brothers from good charlotte charlotte. I've been to many of their concerts. When i went through my vans warped toward as if you know what i'm talking about you know what i'm talking about but i was a kid who still went to the war torn. I had like an outfit from hollister on. I wasn't like hot topic doubt. Do you know what i'm saying. Fuck i didn't even own a pair of hands till about maybe a year and a half ago in that the most comfortable if you have a high arch but regardless watching the holiday cameron diaz is acting is so atrocious. She's making high choices. Energy's high out the gate. And i'm like yeah. This guy grounded like jude line. You got camera di as bouncing all over the place. But there were so many nancy meyers who wrote and directed and created and all the things this movie. She can do no wrong. I mean nancy. Meyers is the queen of romantic comedy. She's the queen of a holiday movie. She is iconic for the kitchens in the homes. She puts in her movies. And if you know what. I'm talking about you fucking no but i was sitting watching the holiday me. I can usually just say all right cameras being lambing but this is a great movie and i sat and watches movie and said i and burma's jack black whom i love actually kind of fucking creepy in this movie like kate winslet one also where she been anybody senior. She's not on instagram. You can't find her anywhere. One of the best actresses of all time. I couldn't even tell you where to go to find her. It's one of my goals for two thousand twenty one fineness winslett. Hey sis if you hear this. I know i of listeners in the uk if anybody has like four degrees of separation from his windsor please let her know that. I love her. And i miss her. It is a wellness. Check on winslet. A winslow wellness jack in that movie. Her character crushed it. You know she's got the sweet relationship with the old man. Put a win back and watch. I was like jack black. Was i mean. He lingered a little too long with some of the stairs in his body language. I love jack. Black great guy seems like a good good man when you really sat back and took a look at the holiday. I'm like jude law. Wouldn't ever fucking del. Cameron diaz scott perky tits or not. You know what. I mean. What i had fought jack. Black one hundred percent. If i was in kate winslet's position. I would have a little bit more into the beefy men but regardless there were so many flaws in this damn movie. One also spoiler alert if you've never seen the holiday and also if you're listening to my pockets of course using the holiday your basic veg in. It is what it is. And i love you for it but cameron diaz keeps looking jew laws phone and he gets his phone calls from sofi in libya and she's like oh other women and then she shows up at his house and then sophia libya shopping like zippy on libya where its doors. And she's like. Oh the phone calls. First of all that makes don't fucking sense 'cause on his fuck and motorola flip phone and said sofiane olivia which means they would have had separate numbers calling him from. He only had one else phone. These kids are four years old. They didn't have a fucking cellphone so that whole caller. Id thing that was supposed to be a you know. A surprise didn't even can make sense. I screamed out loud is that this is a bamboozle moment. Kids don't have cell phones. You know what i'm saying. I'm just sitting here. Just fuming and then got jack black of neil low bit too much of a creepy energy and i thought couple flaws in his movie. Also someone pointed out to me. You know the driver won't go all the way down that snowy country winding road in front of her house. The one that you came deanza saying at however in like two scenes in the movie he pulls up right in front of the house and collector luggage. Where's the continuity check and that one and nancy meyers movie. That should bring joy and take my mind off is sat there and criticized and judged it so i want you to know there's one thing going into twenty twenty one is i gotta take a step back. I gotta just say you know what. Let it be magin. Well not judging less send drinking. Let those britney spears an and try and do. I'm trying to it at this point. We gotta get out. We gotta live in the positivity. We lived in the negative this year. We gotta live in the positive. I don't give a shit. I know a lot of y'all saw the announcement. I'm developing show with peacock which is so frigging exciting. And i'm just beyond words thrilled to be able to share it. Also we still have to get the show on air so there's still like fifty five steps would if you have a vision board and you're gonna make it for the new year. Please write it down. Write it down. Say that heather show gets picked up and she gets make like six seasons of it because this is my love story. My story to the world is a story for my dad. It's it's what we lived through and it's going to be really funny comedy but you know it's been five years in the making to get this show for it to get bought night hitched it this summer and and then people were bidding on it and doing that cool shit which was wild. Think that anybody gives a fuck about what i'm doing now developing it so that means they buy a pilot script and we gotta do all that but we have to hope that they buy more. I feel like i'm in this very weird artistic vulnerable moment where i'm like okay. I'm putting everything out on the line. This is my love child. This is a story about what i went through. And i want to share this. And it's so much an extension of what i've been seeing on the podcast and you guys know every square inch and i'm a ding. Dong in is what it is. I love sharing with you. And i'm just so thrilled that that i had this opportunity and i and i'm scared and nervous and hope we do it and we are going to do it because i spoke it into existence in the name of jesus were making the show but it's exciting to have this kind of at the tail. End of just a cluster. Fuck of a year. I see a light at the end of the tunnel and even if it's me writing fuck scripted my basement and just semi being positive about the future. I gotta do it. And we're about to get into some fucking crazy boys meals because jolla one. But i want us to listen to these crazy voicemails and we're going to leave it there and we're gonna leave this at twenty twenty and in twenty twenty one. I know gonna have more shit to bitch about. And i'm gonna have absolutely nuts but absolutely yes to us all being there for each other in some sort of way and absolutely yes to as giggling this shit out some of these voicemails 'cause when i started going through these is we've hit rock bottom but we're going out. We got options. We've got opportunity. We got to see the line at the end of the tunnel. Imagine naral people at shopping malls and tchepone may who we're all gonna be a aaa together. We're all going to be a food court. I'm going to see you at a charlotte. Russe come fall at twenty twenty one are surely reuss is still around god. I hope so. We'll make this show may get back on the road to the tour. I'm still going to bitch and complain at the dumb shit. The all semi on the voicemails. But that's okay because we all know where it together and we got this right. I love each and every one of you. I want to get to these voicemails. Because they're just so ridiculous. But i want to say. Thank you for all the support this year. Thank you for the kind words and things were giggling with me. Because that's all we got but we're gonna do it. 'cause we're on this do gab. They're definitely not selling record and twenty twenty one. Thanks for putting up with my weird song. -i jams i wanna be a popstar and i got severe as sex and it hasn't worked out all right. I love each and everyone of you. Now let's get into these ridiculous county bitchy over the tom. Just self-indulgent voicemails. I love you guys. Have their lauren online. Dating story crazy here. We go best friend one out. Would they did. Who took her back to his house and took her into a library where he proceeded to read the canterbury tales hoped her show her all these medals and plaques telling her he was an fbi agent turned out another nurse that she works with had also gone on a date with him as some point and heard through the grapevine that he was now been arrested for impersonating a police officer fbi agent. I mean naval air fighter. How what have you. What the crowd. But the canterbury tales. Also what was like first of all. Why did you let him read you. Why didn't you just shag out of there. I started reading canterbury tales. This guy is gonna make you a skin suit anyway. Ridiculous so weird up went up. Okay this is such a great voice mail a lot of things to dissect here one. Thank you for calling in your great friend for sharing this. Also this is how a lot of these stories have started so many the voicemails were. Hey this is my friend and then we found out it happened to six other people which is the most fucking alarming thing out of all of this. These guys are just trying there as you said. They're canterbury tales bullshit on one gal. It's happening to multiple people so let me break this down. You said your girlfriend went on a date with this guy. then he went took. Her backed is hit a library. Which it. I is impressive. I mean if you have a big enough home or enough fuck just decorating skill to have anything in your house. You can actually call a library like it's one thing to have a bookshelf. There's a big difference between a bookshelf. And you've got a actual fucking library like a library is what you see when you walk into a sophisticated home. I feel like all of our parents at some point. How to live rory or you're like rich uncle had a library. So i'm just letting you know if i would have been on the date with this guy and he would brought me back to his library. All sock your deck else like your debt for you to do right now. Great do an arrest the canterbury tales on my head while suck your dick. I'll do it. You clearly have money. But i'm like that or a but wait. let's get into it. So he read her canterbury tales. Now clearly. I don't know if anything sexual happened did he you know. Ask her to take off her shoes and socks. He wanted to stare at her feet while he read the canterbury tales. Also what is the specific choice with the canterbury tales. Visit like medieval poems. Right old english poems or some bullshit. The tales from canterbury. You know it is what it is. So you're telling me he reads a riddles. Basically and then he sends her on her way but he lied to her told her he was in the. Fbi showed the metals the medals and having the awards up in the libraries also a heart. Flex i need you to know if i was single. I would've gotten got by this guy easy. I walked into the home. wow okay. he's got a nice leather count clearly from restoration hardware. He's got a full library nice oak desk. Oh he's got medallions and medals on the fucking wall. Okay dropped trout lesko doggy. What's your name jordan. Alright what were did you serve in iraq. Afghanistan doesn't matter. I'll suck your dick and that's not me being slutty but listen my love. Language is words of affirmation. I like to build people up. So if i come into your home and i see that you're doing the damn thing much make you feel good about it but the crazy thing is this guy lied swan saying i would have gotten gotten the situation. You're telling me he's going around town tell people he's an fbi agent fuck and yet doggy. I do think and we talked about this on the by gas months ago years ago. Maybe you know if you're gonna lie about something it's very easy to lie about being a cia agent or an fbi agent. You know. i'm not actually gonna like press you would but i would also be afraid. He's like oh okay. You're in the fbi yet. I can't talk about it. It's so easy to just say. I can't really talk about it. So you want wanna dick dale's interest and i'd be like yeah jordan lescoe always a fucking jordan to you know it i know at jordan's are always. They're always the first one to lie. It is what it is. Jordan's are liars. I've never met a jordan. Who did not lie. If you've got even a girl jordan if you got a girl jordan in your group of friends she'll tell you she went to subway for lunch. She didn't tomato tuna sandwich at home. And that's called habitual lying and they lie about the little things if you're lying about what you had for lunch. Did you get a journalism degree from iowa state. We don't know my guess guesses probably not so back to the guy lies about being an fbi agent and then you said another nurse friend also said yo. Guess what found out. I went on a day with them to he got arrested for impersonating a cop. An fbi agent. Listen if i'm on you know any of these apps and it just says fbi agent but they don't even have to fake lie about it like they put fbi agent again. I'd say also deck. I love a little mystery. You know what if he had a panic room. Oh god if you have a library and a panic room then you can put it in my. But i'm easy like that very easy. I've told you this before. Something about home. Security and education gets me randy arou- you know you gotta humidor in this library game now again. The canterbury tales. I need some more details with this. We're gonna have to circle back on this one. It's an odd choice of something to read. And he just wanted to reduce our which is a weird flex like proving he's not dyslexic. You know what is that what what is going on there. I dunno canterbury tales. If you don't canterbury tales it's kind of like the books of narnia not anything like it but also basically the same stories. A short summary. It's just google this the tails mostly written in verse. Although summer and pros are presented as part of a storytelling contest by group of pilgrims as they travelled together from london to canterbury to visit the shrine of saint. Thomas becket at canterbury cathedral. Okay you know what this is some freaky shit. Anytime there's a story about pilgrims you know pilgrims are like. Fbi agents buttoned up. Chris by the very modest black dress weird hats. you know. they're in a freaky shit. She should have seen this comment. Who read the books narnia. I did you know what i'm saying. Great great book. Cs lewis a christian author. That didn't get enough credit. The lord's the lion. And if you know what. I'm talking about if you know you know but yeah canterbury tells us freaky you never one thing if you pulled up. Fifty shades of grey. Then you just know. He's got kinks. But he wants you to dress up as a pilgrim. Did he ever shrine of. Saint thomas becket. Maybe back of panic room. You friend didn't get the panic room. Although she would have gone to the panic group yes he would have. Skin turn warned her. You know there's people dress up like flurries. You don't own a furry is it's basically be dressed up like full almost kind of like mascot costumes where it's like a full bunny costume full cat and they fuck. I don't know what the knee sh-sh-she what you call somebody's into pilgrim sex. But i guarantee gets freaky real quick but this is an absolutely not. I mean the whole story is absolutely not. And it's an absolutely not on me. Because i probably would have very easily put this man's pain in my mouth. Why 'cause his name's jordan. Why because he's a liar and he would have manipulated. Because i'm a pisces. And i'm very easy to say yes to things that i don't feel comfortable with. 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Ceo today and use good absolutely ten for an additional ten percents off at checkout. Trust me your skin and your sinuses will thank you. Hey heather i just wanna say absolutely not too nosy drugstore cashiers. I know this ever happened to you. But this is happened to me a solid three times where i go to a cvs. I buy them. You know personal ship because that's tvs and four and the cashier just wants to talk about it so anyway. This happened before we're cold. Medicine is creepy. Little guys says. Oh i'm assuming either you or your roommates are sick and just like rushing off. Because i'm like dude. I don't wanna talk to you about this in the you're just praying second time this weird girl. She judges the price mine. And so i get thir- tech ninety pills she's like. Oh that's expensive for those two items. Unlike the ninety five though. Yeah time i go into by pregnancies and i'm not pregnant but i put them on the counter and she goes. Oh are you hoping for yes is the same girl. Are you hoping for a yes. Or you're just making sure. And i just laughed and said that's that is personal. Feel the need to ask about my personal life. I'm not telling you. what am i gonna say. Oh no I'm late so you know i'm i am okay with the yes but whatever i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna play my whole life to you shannon anyway. This is from texas. Love you so much just wanted to share that absolutely not thank five okay sister. Let me tell you what this is absolutely happened to me. I'm going to the same. Cvs down the street from my mom's house for fuck we've lived in this house for twenty something years. The same guy worked there. I don't know if you know this but pharmacists who worked at cvs. I mean that's a cush job now. You have to work a lot of holidays. i mean. i've had full-blown conversations with the entire staff there. They know me but it is. I mean far pharmacies. Good money so they're already making. They're making good money now. The pharmacist is also different than cashier. But my thing is at my. Cvs mike cashier at the front is chill. You know what i mean. They're doing the more ten dollar an hour gig. They you know we have a twenty four hour. cvs it is what it is but it's a pharmacist. who also can check you out at the register. Who has the fucking attitude. Do you know how many times i've gone in there for like zanex refill. Oh i don't know my birth control refill. And i got a cop a tude and this guy who works down the street. I'm not even kidding. You and this is not me being mean about a physical feature. But i can i say this. His eyes are so crossed. It makes me think. How can you look at the pills. Is anybody fact checking his pill count. I mean if your eyes are that cross you could think you're putting in a dozen zanies. You could be putting in six. It's all you see in double. I'm not getting the necessary. Pill them out. The pill count than i need. And i know that's a handicap so i'm not trying to say anything about the handicap but i am saying he also has an attitude. I'll never forget my mom went in there. On new year's day i was so hung over. And i'm like i'm not proud about being hung over but i had a wild night at store co. fresco and i got home at like seven. Am my mom. The next day goes into. Cvs made the mistake of asking. This guy she was. My kids are hung over. What do i get them and he just said to her dead. I'd maybe they should drink so much and be irresponsible. This was like a year ago and he was like pedialyte. I four and she came home and she goes with an astle and said yeah. He's judgmental nice and yet they should inquire. I mean the pregnancy test thing. You said year it's insane. Are you expecting a baby i know. Are you expecting a kick in teeth. What's your name tiffany tiffany. I'll kick in the teeth. It's like when people always tell me you're pregnant. You're pregnant that's all anybody ever wants his as you're pregnant. Ooh are you pregnant. Damn ooh i a mole in my back. I need to get checked out. Ooh you pregnant. Now quit wishing that on me right now. I got shit to do. Y'all will be the first ones to know. But right now. I don't need you to chime in on my ovulation. I know ninety percent of y'all wanna see me pregnant. 'cause you know in a bitch and complain and it's gonna be great content. Because what do i do i swell. Why my body doesn't release water weight. Well but my pain and suffering should not be your entertainment willoughby you bet your ass. This has got to stop the inquisitive getting condoms. So do you have a boyfriend. No i actually liked. Put them on house plants. I like to put this. I like to put a condom at the bottom of like a history just so the soil stays moist so when i go out of town i don't have water my plants. None of your business. You know what i'm saying. Now listen if you're working at cvs. So i know you're seeing some crazy shit you're seeing you know the teens coming in at midnight looking for something sketchy somebody trying to buy cigarettes with a fake. Id i swear to god real story. I was in the back of cvs literally picking up birth control. I heard my dad at the front of cbs. Buying six. now mind you. We were not allowing my dad to smoke six. And i heard there were like our. He's a i. Let me get a pack of marble. Latched did it. A you know the twenty four. I don't know what kind of pack cigarettes come in. I used to smoke six in college when i drank. And every now. And then i'll have a loose long. Capri am not a smoker anymore. And if you smoke do you. Y'all are the only ones who feared fucking cova. 'cause you already had the scar tissue on your lungs. Anyways i digress. And i screamed in the back of. Cvs don't sell on the sakes. My dad was so pissed and people saw my dad. And i get an actual fighting. Cbs and i go. He doesn't need him. And the poor girl tiffany working at. Cvs didn't know what to do. I mean my dad heavyset intimidating guy. And i said don't sound doom tiff and he goes got him. Heather don't be disrespectful. And i was like. Don't sell them to him. If this happened what. He died five years ago this having like six and a half years ago and mind you did not die of lung cancer. It was pancreatic wearing your cell phone on your hip can kill you. I'm not trying to be rude to the cross eyed man. He is such a sassy. He's so rude and so sure of everything that there are days where i'm like. Hey bra you know what lose a a little bit. Because i can't handle this right now shannon anybody who is you know vision problems or just extra vision or just. Maybe you've gotta loose. I you know accepts having one either. Cross's can be a little fun. It is a little intimidating to the person trying to talk to you but that's my own projection and that's not fair to that guy but he's rude he's made he's a mean. Cvs guy it is what it is. So he's made. I feel bad. God damn it. Down spiralling in sandra from california. I'm just wondering like what is the drop off aides to leave a tip of the fire solution. Lake is there. I like there may be an age where you could like. Get in trouble for abandonment. Bar station should be safely in. Think if you wanna act like a jerk like a fire station down the street breath we can handle this. Oh cassandra this. Voicemail is just to me the epitome of twenty twenty the nutshell. You a sound intoxicated. Be sound like you're at your wit's end what is too old to drop your kids off at a fire station. I think after. You've had one kid like i think it was your first kid and you're like a weekend. You're like oh do you drop to get off but now you say kids in it's plural. I don't think you can drop off more than one child at the fire station. You know what. I mean even if you were just sitting at home. We got a little brand lay's coloring on the white wall you know brax lee is opening every lacroix in the garage and just pouring them all over your mitsubishi. That could very well be happening in your home right now. Does that mean they. You can drop them off at the fire station. I don't think so again. Not a parent as a law-abiding tax-paying citizen who kind of trying to figure out where to hide money but can't figure that out just yet. I don't think you can do that now. I used to do improv. And the rule of improvisation s and so in this situation. I should be saying. Cassandra yes you can drop your kids off at the fire station and there won't be any consequences. Unfortunately this might be a moment where i have to say. I don't think they'll take him. But cassandra what. I can tell you what you can do at home. If you've got the space my mom used to have a thing called a scream closet. It was our pantry and she's to go into it with the pillow and scream sometimes she wouldn't even put the pillow over her to muzzle the scream. And that's why. I still see there to this day. I remember my mom hating being a mother so much. There were days where she would just scream bloody murder and i remember my sister and i now talk about it and we're like i know with mom enjoyed being a mom now when we say that she tells us to go fuck ourselves and says reading to us in the library was her favorite thing and she had door being mother however looking back. She was stressed percent of the time. Now she end me late. I came out of her vagina forty so she was a grown ass. Adult was young mom in it and frustrated she had fully lived like an lives by the time sis had but she went in that scream closet probably five times a day. And don't get me wrong. I had a great childhood. But i also think the fact that you are willing to call into the absolutely not line and admit that you're thinking about dropping the kids off at the fire station means you're doing something right you talking through. I don't hear you buckle in them up and taken dropping him off. also i would save about thirteen. That's probably you could drop them off at thirteen at least because they could scrub a floor in there maybe learn a lesson. You know what i mean. You have young kids. Unfortunately i don't know i don't know what you do. You know. this is where my improv skills. Come in i should be saying. Yes and cassandra. They have a program there for young children at the firehouse. They will hound greece epa poll. Clean the tires on the fire truck. But again i think a fire station is actually quite a dangerous place. You can't have an alarm. Go off in the middle of the night. you know. Rudy's got to hop in the truck. And then he didn't see brackley on the ground crawl and playing with lego done. Seem like a safe place and if you don't even understand what we're talking about you're too young to understand that most people. When they abandoned a child they drop them off at a fire station. They yuejin xeres. I don't know maybe you drop them off at a fucking tiktok. High palce irritant mom. That's okay but don't drop them off at tiktok hype house. Go to the fire station police station too. Dangerous policemen are usually you know. They got their own beef right now. Have you ever met a nasty firemen. I haven't lovely. Individuals really signed up to save lives. Have you seen the movie backdraft. Watch it a fuck you up. People sign up to go into fires. Can you imagine what kind of father a firefighter is a good one. I'd added fucking credit report great father credit reporting firefighting awesome. Dads anyways. cassandra check back in with this. Twenty twenty one. I hope you cool down. Had a glass of chardonnay. Went into your screen. Closet may be gotten the toyota corolla but the windows down listened to a little taylor. Swift's new album evermore calmed yourself. I'm here for you. Thank you for calling in. But i definitely want to do well on his check. Cassandra goddamn your spiraling. let's get to the next one. I need a detox from this year. But you know what as i continue to drink my chris. Glasses chardonnay had five. I'm gonna continue using that d. h. md detox which is a vitamin for people who liked to enjoy their drinks. Enjoy your holiday drinks as your get back to doing. We love the next day without feeling awful. Forget the sunday scares and feeling like garbage. All you gotta do is take two capsules. If your first couple of drinks and it goes to work it breaks down those pesky toxins in your body that creep up. 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And i'm from nashville. Tn see the good old south and my absolutely not when parents don't dress their babies like babies so like i'll be throwing instagram and a five year old has on like one of those flats which i love but i'm twenty four and she's five and she's wearing like skinny jeans and like a cheetah shirt and i'm like she's five years old. She needs to be mock stress and the big bow or like when actual incident babies are wearing jeans. I don't know why. I'm just so passionate about infants in jeans. Maybe when they're a little older like a three month old does not need to be jeans and converse like they need to be in that cute baby moment out that that makes you just go all my gosh and i just Parents babies are only babies once what them be babies all right. That's all i you know. They're very few phone calls. That i one hundred percent disagree with. This is the most absolutely not fucking voicemail. At the century. First and foremost there is nothing that is more joyful adorable enlightening loving tender. Just want to put them in your pocket than a baby jeans. And if you think that these fuck and kids want to be smart you absolutely not the southern smocking and we've talked about it do you fucking sorority sisters. I have that have smocked. Kids clothing companies shout to my girls. Lovey delta gama's but still. I'm not buying that. Why does your baby have to look like. They're going to a christening every thirty five minutes at the week you buy one christening gown baptism gown bar mitzvah gown whatever. That's it other than that if your child isn't head to toe animal print if your child isn't an a little tracksuit looking like a russian drug dealer. What are we even doing here. The audacity of this voicemail babies should be babies first of all babies. Don't even know where the fuck they are. Babies don't know jack shit. They know two things where to find a titty impa patrol honestly. Sounds like a good life. The babies need to be babies. You know what. You're clearly not a mother. And as a french bulldog mother. If i wanna put rigatoni and a pair of denim jeans by little baby converse for dogs. Watch him uncomfortably. Walk around the kitchen in them for thirty seconds. That's the most amount of time that he will actually lead those on his paws and he walks like he's got velcro stuck to the bottom of them and i put a little fedora on him. And maybe a jingle jangle chain around his neck. That's my prerogative. The kind of bench who only keeps her kittens smock close is also the kind of edge who shows up to target wants to return forty five items and doesn't wear a mask. She's the kind of bit goes to the starbucks in the target and then complains when she doesn't get a good white moke allante. Guess what. It's not the same if you go to starbucks in a movie theater in a target in a ross dress for less. They're probably more of a caribou coffee kind of conglomeration. Regardless it's not gonna be good. I think the only reason. I'm even considering having children is to put them in. Denham is to put them in knee. High boots is to put them in. I don't know a komo. No so they look adorable and cultured. Baby clothes are not smart. In fact hear ye hear ye the day. I have a child if bring me smocked clothing and little white knee high socks and saddle shoes. I'll keep your white lexus. i will. I will leave my own baby shower. Walk out into the street and key your lexus and right on the passenger door and then i will alert the atlanta journal constitution. Which is our local town newspaper and i will say here. Ye hear ye caitlyn. Don't even remember. Big caitlyn brought me smocked clothing and people will put their babies and bonnets shouldn't be allowed about now camp boat kaz somebody who makes that poor decision. The person who literally has ever said out loud into the world. I don't like to see babies in denham. That securities fucking thing. I've ever seen now. You should not be allowed to participate in our democracy. And i feel very strongly about that. And that's on gone period the audacity you know it's absolutely yes. S you bringing this to our attention. So now i have a list of things that my security guard. My future baby shower has to look out for your welcome. Thank u next voicemail. Any other high other Just a couple fans eight years. Three of us from indiana for so kind zero show in indianapolis of fine so couple of virgin fear wondering what was the sex. We just need advice like we don't know what the before and after like the actual doing it makes sense like we've known about that forever because fifty shades of grey. But i mean like i need to know like the basic lake before and after things that nobody tells you Yeah yeah okay. I love you okay. Did i hear that correct. A couple virgins calling in now one. I don't know. Are you old enough to call into this voicemail hotline or i need to make sure that like chris hansen from to catch predators. Not gonna show up. I'm sure you're just lovely college girls. I don't know but virgins. I mean you could be thirty five year old virgin and i commend you for holding onto your your purity for holding onto your self confidence dignity a sense of self pride and worth. I gotta be honest with you. I'll tell you about the first time i had sex. It was terrible. And i know a lot of people say that but honestly this is a large number i would say. The percentage of women who had terrible for sex's it least eighty seven percent. That's a very specific number. But i think it's accurate at least eighty seven. Maybe there's a freakish two percent that had a good time. It was terrible. I was eighteen. I was a freshman in college. Because i thought it was going to wait. I had sex with the sky and ironically enough his little sister message me i mean. She's in her thirties. Messaged me about say nine months ago. And said hey. Do you know my brother. You had to college with them. And i go. I did. I think i told her i slept with them and it was terrible. It was terrible. Here's the thing. Don't be too drunk. I would say maybe wait. Do with somebody that you care about. This seems like very cliche in something. A wise old aunt would tell you but it's not going to be great. You know. I'll tell you what nowadays i mean i tell jeff jeff just slapped my pussy three times and you know scotto bet. I like sex but if you haven't already got in there and beaten up just ease into it. This is what i'll tell you one. Do not be embarrassed. You tell your partner you communicate you. Look them in is if you feel like they're cute looking in the is if they're not cute just roll out and right into a new pool. You know what i mean. I don't know. I could go both ways with his advice. I feel like either. Just you know what actually I'm gonna go low prettier because of the amount of std's as ti's just weird dick's that are out there. Take your time. You know use protection. Listen i got a girlfriend. Who's out dayton. She got gonorrhea three days ago in a fucking pandemic. She called me. She said something right. And i said something's definitely wrong. She's a grown woman. She has stocks and bonds. Do you know what i mean. She's got a cd now. Not like mix tape cd like a cd. Which is some sort of investment thing bitch. A cd and she got gonorrhea. What user thinking cap didn't have on her breast play. Righteousness when she was getting freaky. So when i would say is whatever you do wrap it up. Because the first time it's going to suck no matter what it's going to be a little uncomfortable. Lots of pressure. I mean five. Maybe it'll be great also use protection. Make sure he wraps it up. Then you don't have to worry. And also the cleanup is i had to be bulger. But if he comes in the in the condom you just slide it off you throw it in the trash can. And then don't let that thing get near you. There was a couple one time in high school they got it was like a teen pregnancy situation and they told everybody that she had jacked him off at her house. They drove back to his house and then he finger and that's why she got pregnant and i looked at them and i go. That's not how that works a forty five minute crews and you know you're nissan exterior a will not get you pregnant. That's just personally. You know something that kids say they do. If you have a condom at all stay clean if it breaks you drive. You're asking me leave. Cvs you see the judgmental pharmacists. Say i need a plan. B but also take your time trust and believe you're going to get into like i don't know maybe your thirties. You've had sex with so many terrible people you're gonna regret so many decisions by good go back and eliminate like a quarter of the people got up so sorry to anyone listening i. Would you know what i mean you and i both though you it any grown as adult listening to this is like oh yeah lots of mistakes and that's okay. It's a part of the learning process. But if i could go back and tell my younger more energetic self what to do say pump the breaks. You know what i mean and then i had sex with a man one time in auburn alabama and his trailer. Well no we almost had saxon. I said like. Do you have a condom. And he said. I'm waiting on my wife. I jumped out of bed. Almost hit my head on a fucking racoon-skin that was hanging off the walls swear to god. It's a thing in auburn alabama. I didn't even go to school there. I was visiting. And i thought he met his wife like she was coming home. He's no you know he was like a k a. It's a weird thing even like the cool guys live in trailers. The guy had a fucking mercedes but it was weird. He's like no. I'm wayne off. I'm waiting to get married. And then i said in that moment i felt so bad about the people that i hadn't slept with is again me to you're right and i fooled this kind of thinking that i had also never had sex and the next morning. I woke up in a trailer. This is actually pretty smart on me. And i was like fuck. I don't know where the fuck i am. I'm in the middle of the woods and a very high end double wide and i could see the mercedes parked out francaise like all right. We're gucci eye. Went into the kitchen. The nook whatever it was. I saw a piece of mail. My razor motorola phone was barely charged. Texts and my girlfriend and he has at any gotta come get me. Here's the address. Genius looked at a piece of mail. And i had to walk about a mile through the woods to get to the main road and it was across from a church and i could see anne marie barreling down the road and her jetta and everybody else is going to church. And she pulled up. And i literally hopped out of bush on the side of the highway and auburn alabama. And i looked at her. And i go. I'll never come to this town. Am i proud of that moment. I'm sure not actually. I am proud. Because i didn't have sex with the man. It was a lot of heavy petting but in that moment i realized he's a better man because he's white now wife saw suggests you know do what makes you feel comfortable. Always make sure there's consent but just use protection. Because i trust no one and also not attender. Date nodded gambles you. I want at least six states in. You need to know their social. You need to know where they work and you need to have their mother's address because guess what it's twenty twenty trust. No one next voicemail. 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And he's not thomas so i thought it would go well about you know he's got maybe he's got stuff together. I don't know so. He invited me to go to my favorite restaurant. Which has the most wonderful roles. It's like this sorted kind with like different flavors of better that you can put on it. It's amazing and then this great famines. I'm super pumped. I can't wait. I get to the restaurant first thing he does. He sticks his hand under my arm pitch because he wants to see if i'm perspiring. The of i'm nervous a guy. I can't believe i stayed after that but i did. Cause salmon's out good and the bread is fire so after that he then held the waitress that we are going to share our meal so we have to share the salmon now on one plate. No thank you. He also then tells her that. We don't want the bread because he's not thomas and he says that we will go blind because we'll get diabetes. I didn't even know that was the thing. And after that i was pretty pissed off you then shows me through his phone like he's trying to show off i guess. He showed me a surgery that he did on an eyeball. That had syphilis. And i'm a hairdresser. I no blood no grossness. I just love hair. It's my favorite thing in the world then. Takes me to my car and tries to kiss me. I say this didn't go well and that's absolutely not. There's a ton in there so you will love my rosa. This shakes me to my core. Absolutely fucking not first and foremost okay. You got bamboozled. I can see the whole setup. You're doing their you know you've got the scissors in your hand. You're really in the in the powerful position but you know he's as the doctor he's like or i can we. You know you want to go to dinner. Really sure okay. you want. Plays with good roles. And i fought with good role. I'll tell you what there's a place in atlantic called the optimists and they come out with the sexually. It's like a pretzel roll. And it's got soft cell gre- up top and it's just drenched in butter. So grease a fancy word for salt but like real thick see sont. It's a fancy fucking roles. It's not like any potato pretzel roll. I can't even really describe it. All i know is it's fucking delicious. I would go with an optometrist. To the optimists. You know what i mean i would say for the fucking role. Sure you know. I go on a date with the guy from canterbury tales intervene. So you get to dinner. He tells you then. You can't have the assorted roles. That's when you just. I mean you punch him in the dick and you walk out but i get it. You like okay. I'm trying to be nice. They wanna throw the diabetes. Nothing worse than when you have a fucking dr sir. You're looking at is. You're not even looking at the overall health and wellbeing. If you don't check my weight before. I go in for an eye exam that you can't tell me what i can. I can't put my mouth. I didn't know that glaucoma was caused from casseroles the audacity and then you get a split osaman. Listen i've been trying to watch my figure. I two salmon's for myself. 'cause salmon's alight fish you get a split it. And then he wants to pull out his phone in. Show you syphilis. I you report him to the police i would. I'd also report them on. Yelp you know what you should do. Call back the restaurant and say listen. It should girl rosa. I'd like vip service for the rest of my life at this establishment. Because i had to sit through that awful situation. I'd also like four hundred and fifty. Five assorted roles was soft. Butter was celery on top to go. I think you should sit alone in your apartment. Anita minute join them to the girls in the voicemail before this in the virgins this is another thing. make sure they wear protection. Because you could get syphilis in your i. I a girlfriend who went to the show in vegas called thunder from down under. She was sitting on the front. A guy sweat fell off the tip of his dick gone awry. She got crabs. Maybe it happened to a friend of her friend either way. I've heard that story before and it didn't end well bitches blind. Then he went in for the kiss. You know the audacity. Some of these fuckers think that that was a great night. Are you that out of touch. Apparently you know what you're definitely not touching my body my crate and barrel sofa. You're not putting your soft ass on it. Listen if we've learned anything from this year it is to guard your loins. not gird your loins. You know. I think it's guard guard. Your loins protect yourself. Steak focus. i on the prize. I want you to go through. I want you to go through this. Why won't you do. We're going to do a vision board. Podcast top of the year. But it's the last one for the. I want you to go through and i want you to find the quality of dream and i want you to put him on the vision board. I believe it works. But what's so sad. Is this entire podcasts. He's voicemails it's a nutshell of how we all handled this year. Poorly got one lady wanted to leave her kids at a fire station. Another lady telling me. I can't put my baby jeans. We've got the virgins calling up scared to death. One ladies getting grilled at cbs. Another woman's locked in this bucket. Fbi agents library getting rid canterbury tales. We get sweet rosa. Not being allowed to have a fuck in assorted roles. Because she's on a date with an optometrist. Oh for god's sake if we've learned anything from this episode is that we got to take a step back. We got a refocus our a twenty twenty one. I see the light at the end of the tunnel. And i want to know it is coming. And we're gonna be okay and we are going to be able to get out and we're gonna be able to do our damn thing and we're going to make the vision boards together top of the year because want you to start planning go on. The interwebs pronounce them photos of john. Claude van damme. Kevin hart if you like them and write down the key words. I need a man to allow many eat brand. I want a man without i. Don't know a fucking panic room. I like someone who would allow our baby to wear cheetah print turtlenecks. You're not asking for a lot but when you are asking is to set yourself up for success and we gotta take steps personally to get their rosa. I love you. I hope you ban this man from your salon. And i hope you never get you know astigmatism. And to go see him. Go to the next town over. It's not worth it. Also optometrist's really. I gotta be honest. Anybody wants like deal with is wolf. Voca weird seems like a safe job as a dermatologists. Like i would probably do germ 'cause i like to pick it things but you really wanna look at the ranch but you get a heat rash and take a sample of it looking. Something's wrong there. You feel me. Listen i don't know what the fuck is going on. And i'm hoping that we can figure it out in the next coming months but i do want you to feel hopeful and grateful because listen it can only go up from. He famous last words. I love you guys. Thank you so much for making this year. Just honestly and truly this podcast has been the only ray of sunshine in my life and i am so grateful for all the love and support. I want to hear what you got into the holidays. I want to hear your new year's was call into the hotline. Eight hundred two one. Three seven five zero three. Let's recap. I'm gonna continue to get on the line. And i promise you will bring some more solo episodes. We could really dive deep into what what's happening. The let's figure out. I wanted to your goals. Your aspirations what are we adding to the vision board. Let's manifest it. Let's talk it out loud. Let's get it on the books baby because we're going to do in twenty twenty one. This year was roth but we made it through and we did it together. And thank you for giggling with me and sharing your stories sharing your heart ache sharing your triumphs. I am so glad that we have this community together. I really mean that for the bottom of my heart. I love you. I mean it. And i'll see you in the new year. Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. Don't forget to subscribe in libra review and as always follow me on instagram. Heather kay mcmahon see guy soon sander.

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Charlie's Angels (2000) with Sasheer Zamata

The Bechdel Cast

1:31:05 hr | 1 year ago

Charlie's Angels (2000) with Sasheer Zamata

"Hey Everyone Jamie Loftus here queen of Christmas and I'm here to tell you about a little something called. It's a wonderful lifetime. The best way to get into onto the holiday spirit on lifetime. Twenty four seven all day every day. All season long holiday movies with some of your faves. Melissa Joan Hart Kelly Rowland Kisha Knight Polio. Just to start. And you'RE GONNA WANNA watch on Thanksgiving week because there's even more premieres treat every day like it's Christmas or whatever holiday a day you celebrate and make a lifetime your destination for new holiday movies. Twenty four seven on the dog cast. The questions asked movies. He's have women and all their discussions boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism Patriarchy's FM vast. Start Changing. Ed Wood the deck of DEL. Hello Hello Charlie Joe. Yes it's me Charlie. Oh Hi I'm hot girl. What do you want me to do? I want you to do a mission. But you'll never meet me and that's the kind of that's kind of hot about. It doesn't here an old man that I can't see I can never meet and that's kind of what gets me going same with all my friends and Bill Murray Tim what hi welcome to the Bechtel cast is with these so weird. Okay well into the bachelor. Cast of Miami Loftus. My name is Caitlin Caitlyn Toronto. This is a feminist movie podcast and as you can tell. We're going to discuss a very feminist movie today. Feminist Tech. I've I mean I've truly built myself from the building blocks of these various Bikini People Yeah I also learned who Sam Rockwell was from this movie. Oh sure what does this podcast we talk about. This is our first time recording in quite some time which is a big gap in like a month. Maybe even more I is it weird that I've been keeping count and like I haven't seen you for twenty nine days. Well all right live episodes. Oh my goodness okay yes anyway. So we're all out of sorts but we're back and better than ever and we talk about the representation of women in film and how it's usually you know. Not The best. And we use specially in the year. Two thousand I think this is maybe a low who indeed yeah And we use the back door. Test sometimes known as the Bechtel. Wallace test which requires that two female identifying characters with names must must speak to each other about something other than a man? Laurie hoops. It already failed By our standards it must just be a two line exchange right so were set. We're starting by setting the bar real low and seeing if If any movies can crest it and that the test cemented by cartoonist Alison Bechtel. Ensure is oh boy we're back. We're back twenty nine days. I feel like I haven't spoken so And we also have a guest with us as per usual. Yes Our guest today. She's a comedian a writer you've seen her on SNL and she's the Co Oh host of the podcast best friends with Pasquas to the show. Nicole buyer it's shears Mehta. Yes Hi Hello Charlie. Oh what a what do do you know who plays Charlie in the movies the actual Charlie from the TV show. Oh the back the back of the head guy at the end not despoil. None of that actor that we saw physically in the movies the same person but the voice is the the same as the guy who played this day the TV show. And I'm looking up his name yet as we speak. Yeah and he's not I build so let me you give me a second. Well that's part of why he has such an icon as he doesn't take up Spin John foresights is his name and this is not passing back to test so they're not all going to pass but So share thank you so much for being here Tell us about your history your relationship with this smoothie this maybe franchise as it were and and such that we're talking about the two thousand movie version your Amer Diaz Drew Barrymore. Lucy Liu yes Yes I watched. This movie came out. I'm pretty sure I saw full throttles well And I remember liking. It is fun to see women. I'm in do stuff that's like actiony. Yeah Arab thing that was fun and this is my first time seeing it probably since it came out. That's probably hardly the case for a lot of people. Yeah this isn't a movie that people seem to revisit a lot. We're we're we're discussing it. Because the reboot is about out to come out because legally you have to everything. So that's why we're I mean otherwise. I truly don't know if I ever would've would've seen or thought about this movie again and I'm sure that that's true for maybe everyone who is in the name of the. I got really stuck on this when I was like doing. The background research for this movie. The name of the director is just Mickey. Yes is that he. You didn't now that I'm not familiar with mccheese work. I guess I feel like he was a music video director. He was which makes sense. Okay that makes more sense. Yeah to me. It's just like how this is his first feature but he also he comes back for a full throttle he does family exact he was a success is the first time Nikki. And then the movie is of course written by three men including John August who I think people may be better off but it was. It was It was two thousand. I do remember noticing that Drew Barrymore produced this movie like when it came out. Yeah and early. She's one of the producers. Good for her. Because she's had a life you know like twelve year old addict to still alive even really like creating her own shit. I think that's really great and awesome. So and she made a ton of money off this franchise. Oh Yeah Yeah. And she's when this movie came out she's like still only twenty five which is crazy. Yeah Yeah I mean. She's lived several live Jamie. What's your history relationship with this? I don't pretty similar. I remember seeing this movie at like asleep over at some point thinking it was really funny onion cool and like I don't know I was probably like eleven so I was like. Oh I understand this sexy joke and like just everyone just faking their way through it. Yeah I mean I think I thought once maybe twice haven't seen it in at least fifteen years and also it was kind of fun on Swatch to like when I saw for the first time I didn't know who Sam Rockwell was. I didn't know who tim curry was like. All these actors that are in this movie that I just was like when I was ten I was leased. News awesome There's a ton of people and there's a ton of people made a ton of money and at the end of the day don't we just want a bunch of random people to have a lot of money. This movie also looks so expensive. Yeah there was just whole scenes that could be cut. That ours is so expensive. Spend right yeah. It's like really early odds decadence for no reason Yeah what's your history with it. I had never seen any of this. Charlie's angels content knife hadn't watched the show at all. Never watched these movies. not this one nor full-throttle I I have I've seen both of them now Except for the last twenty minutes of full throttle which. I didn't have time to finish before we start you on your toes. You don't get to the end. You're dying to turn out as soon as we hit. Stop on this record I will return to it. You have to run. Don't walk yeah I just. I don't know why I didn't ever see these but I think I was like maybe like you know two thousand i. I was a freshman in high school so I was like am too cool for girl movies. I'm a guys Gal. That whole thing was kind of person right and so but I gathered some information and I realized a lot of it now is Misinformation from these movies like I thought. Yeah I thought Bernie. Mac was Charlie but he's just Bosley but only in the second movie like I said I was all I'm all mixed up but now I've said everything anything straight late bill. Murray is in the second movie correct. There's apparently he had There was between him and Mckee and then also apparently between him. I hate that sentence. That's brutal over yet we're using blue. The other person he had yes. I also remember hearing that when I heard this was like. That's a weird thing but then didn't realized was watching the movie. Oh It's probably from Diz movie because I like win. Would they have talked to each other. I just didn't right. No Yeah but yeah I guess really. That sucks well because also I have never met. Actually I met. Let's see once very pleasant. Also we're at a show. So why would why would she but it was like what does she was really mean for. Yeah in my mind I'm like who would ever be mad at her Should I dive in to the recap. Yeah recap away all alright. So Charlie's angels two thousand directed by Mick G FEMINIST ICON. Tells the story okay. So there's an opening opening sequence so crazy that I think we just need to dedicate like a full hour to talk about that separately. Quick I I know. This is a feminist pockets. Uh I'm just going to be sprinkling in some big first. He directed the smashmouth all-star music video. Wow He's coming in an hot. Hey Hey now. And then he then. He directed documentaries for both corn and sugar ray because their stories must be told and then he got Charlie Harley saying how interesting yeah they're like this is the guy like voice clearly is mall teens. Love Him mm-hmm the opening sequence there on a plane and ll cool J.. Is there and we'll talk about the whole thing a little later on. But but we're introduced to the angels. This trio of crime-fighting private investigators. They are all women. Would the twins twist is. They're women this time and they all work for this guy named Charlie who they've never met they've only ever heard his voice right which is a carry over from the show is well I believe. Yeah the angels are Natalie. That's Cameron Diaz. She's really good at driving. And James also are jeopardy very unclear their characters perhaps clear not defined very. Well No. Oh they're they're they're they marry. Sue like scene by scene. They're like oh no she's also a scientist. I'm like Oh I saw her at a cop academy they're like whatever up Jesus scientists. Then we've got Alex Lucy Liu. She is a horseback rider but but then they also an astronaut or not neither of which come into play at any other point. She's dating Matla blank. who also plays an actor right and who has a very bad haircut wet all the time? Another wet haired was like the early two thousands. Yeah just like guys is it. Looks like they needed to be towels off and then Dylan Drew Barrymore's character. She's kind of like a bad ass rocker check and I guess also. She's the slutty one because she has sex with Chad Aka. Tom Green Aka her husband. Spend hard pill the swallow. Yes and then we also maybe. He's great I duNNo. Oh sure yeah. We don't know maybe he's then we also meet Bosley that's Bill Murray's character and he is the liaison between Charlie and the angels They get their next assignment. which is to find Eric? Knox a tech Bro. Who was kidnapped? And whose voice recognition software was stolen. His business partner Vivian would has hired the angels to find him and as they're looking at this surveillance footage of Knox's kidnapping they spot this like thin man in the reflection shen of a window that's his character's name man which is like another that's like another reference to this show. Yeah yeah or is it a show or movie. I'm like I'm pretending it seems so Charlie Angels TV series on I forget which network Some broadcast network in the seventies and early eighties. So yes I have not seen any but I think it lasted like four or five seasons. That was like we're Farah. Fawcett became famous right. That was Sure where to young diving mentioned stupid idiots on the watch a show from nineteen seventy six. I think that's right. I'm ready I think it was. Yeah it was like yeah faucets. Yeah Exciting Papa. Yeah Yeah there's also a lot of remakes tribes his angels I typed in Charlie's angels two DB and there's like the ones coming onto the nineteen the two thousand one nineteen seventy six TV series two thousand eleven. TV series three video game called. Charlie's angels. That came up to seventy uh-huh Charlie is. I mean this is a popular property. Everyone wants to adapt it. which I think is like weirdly telling in its own way to just like why are we still trying with this thing fascinating about women who are high but also good at spy stuff also just subservient to a god-like boy there's a TV show Grief The ten ten minutes is a famous nineteen thirty detective movie. Oh yes that's that was called the thin man Yeah the the thin man Okay so they spot the thin man in the reflection of a car window and they say okay we gotta figure out who this guy is. We have to find him. And then they know of an enemy of Eric Knox this guy named Corwin. That's Tim Curry's character. Who owns a satellite company and into at one point tried to buy knocks enterprises but Knox refuse to sell? Did any of you get like confused with the various various villainous plots that were I kept. I was trying really hard to find. I was like this is like I did like many like spy. A detective espionage type stories I think they're purposefully convoluted so that you just don't realize how many like plot holes there are stuff like that. I'm getting like insecure and I was like I'm going to get there and they're gonNA know exactly with him not really sure sure what happened to do step. Why are they at a racetrack? Doesn't matter racing full-throttle all is far more confusing. So if you think this one's like just wait till you see full throttle McConnell events. I was worried that I personally personally was stupid. Didn't understand no it's it's for sure overly complicated. Pretty nonsensical cool okay. So the Angels Crash Rush Corwin Party to try to get some Intel and Luke Wilson is there and he and Natalie are flirting coming sure and at the party they spot the thin man who is played by Crispin Glover and they all chase chase after him and he inadvertently leads them to Eric. Knox all tied up and kidnapped. Who Jamie as you pointed out is played by Sam Sam Rockwell? An All star cast is what we're saying glasses Sam Rockwell wild so they rescue him but his voice recognition technology is still gone and they realized that Corwin wants this voice technology because it can turn any cell phone into a homing device so they have to get back to protect people's privacy I mean isn't that what we're going through right now. I mean yes. They knew they knew back in two. It hasn't there'll be a problem. We should have listened to MC gee when we had the chance so then they plant a camera on core bruins briefcase at the race track which is a scene that we need to have so that they can surveilled the inside of his like corporate headquarters and and then they figure out what they need to do to infiltrate core wins security volt There's these two security director guys whose fingerprints and retinal scans they need. So they go and gather that stuff and they break into the vault and hack into core wins mainframe they do have they have. And that's sponsor pretty hard you gotta hand it and also Melissa McCarthy's McCarthy is there yeah this is like has to be a really early role for her right. She's great she calls Lucy Liu a bitch. In a scene at spoiler alerts does pass. Tobacco town does pass. Yeah when it is full of love four hundred men four hundred Horny men Lanqing Lucy live. And somehow it's still Bechtel. Test a limited metric. They're not perfect. Meanwhile Knox and drew Barry Moore's character Dylan are flirting. And then Cameron d says is going on her date with Luke Wilson. Vivian would Knox's partner seems kind of suspicious. And then she he is also seducing Bill Murray shortly because everyone has to be seducing someone if you're a woman in this movie you must be seductive. Yes Yup yeah. We'll talk all the body is your only weapon in most scenes and then Crispin Glover's the thin man who has crispin glover. Should I know Played judgment fly in back to the future. That's probably his biggest role to date eight. Okay that's how I know him. All right. He kills core win. Tim Curry's character and then other people are trying to kill the angels. And then Vivian the in drugs and kidnaps Bosley because surprise Vivienne and Knox are the bad Guy Osama swell yes yes Mhm Yup and then the angels figure out that Knox was using them to tap into corwin satellite technology so that knocks could use in his voice recognition software to track down Charlie. Their boss Because he thinks that Charlie killed his father so sir sure why he's after him. This is honestly. I'm like I'm totally gone at this point. No idea okay. Now the angels figure you're out where Bosley is being held and go after him to rescue him so they all arrive at this place. This like fortress knocks captured Dylan and ties her up. Not early rescues Bosley and then fights with Vivian for a bit Alex tries to interfere with Knox's like phone trace to figure out where Charlie it is while she's also fighting Crispin Glover and then finally all these all these fights are happening then knocks finally pinpoints surcharges. Location and then leaves a helicopter to go not far not far down the beach extremely. Close the Jet Ski away and then the angels are fighting off the bad guys and then I go to stop Knox. They blow up his helicopter and then they that's a great shot where the missile hits Oh yeah Sam Rockwell and explode dies he could he is. He's in pieces. Shredded shredded intense. Then they wash up on the beach right in front of Charlie's house which is right there at the edge of the not even go deep in a forest. No He's in hiding all right but he's not there and he just missed him as you can only ever hear. His voice always are so horny before they go into the house like do you. Do you think he's GonNa relationship. Drives me nuts. They're all soaking. They're like he's going to do and that's pretty much the end of the movie. They're drunk on the beach after that. And then and that's the end it turns out Charlie's actually watching them from afar show chooses to not introduce himself realize but leagues framed aimed pictures of them in his house. It's so weird and that is the movie. Hey Jamie yeah you know how the angels are always traveling Oakland around jet-setting zip going to all manner of places. Yes and you also know how we do a fair amount of traveling for our podcast and other other comedy stuff. Well our travels just got a lot easier with away. It's genuinely true. Away creates thoughtful travel products designed and to change how you see the world so we now have a way carry on suitcase which have a lightweight and durable shell. That's made to last for a lifetime of travel. 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Oh boy can we start with I. I wanted to compliment this movie movie on exact like on on one thing that I thought was in. There's moments where you're like but I. I was kind of expecting the fight choreography. In this this movie to be Super Lame and like the way that we see female action heroes especially like a little earlier on a really like they're only allowed to fight other women they don't really have weapons they're pulling hair and kicking each other literally their vagina press. What is the mood they've Vagina Presi each other in the face in your mom? I mean there are dozens of movies. Where a woman wraps her legs Slash Regina around usually a man's face but exactly exactly it could be any gender and then like slant pussies slams them into the ground? That's what I meant when China Press Canasta. Sorry that sounds like some merch. We will need to make Machina Hugh pussies press against. That's why I thought I was like what movie is this. We'll make a list but but an not in every example but the fight choreography was way better cooler than I thought. Thought I was going to be. There was like the whole I fight sequence where the three of them are fighting. That guy you can tell it's the actual actors that are doing the fight choreography. They're really good at it. It seemed like there like it was exciting. I duNNO I. There is a lot of the fight choreography that I thought was like way better than I was expecting from this kind of movie. It did seem like with their legs in the air for a long time that they were being held up by strings or simply for sure sure there was is at one point where you can see. Drew Carey Moorland in a harness and sort of be like hooked and she liked balances down. All Right MC G didn't get the shot. Well well this movie comes out a year after the Matrix comes out in this movie and desperately needed. Have you've fight scenes that look a lot like the fight scenes. There's kind of like there are elements of this movie. That are so campy silly that I'm like the obvious obvious harnesses. I thought were kind of fun because they could afford to. Not I mean this. They added ninety three million dollar budget to make this movie. Wow which in two thousand who even knows. It's like ridiculous. They were just blowing up raise cars because it was allowed to like fuck again in a scene it really has has no bearing on the plot whatsoever. No right okay. I was just checking because I was like maybe every time I would get confused. I'm like it's probably because I didn't understand the race car scene. Yeah it really is. That scene does something happened that I think the point was to plant a camera on this guy so they can figure out the entry way to the bolt vaults. But there's no the reason that needs to happen out of the race car track thing. I guess it's just what that guy was doing that day. Right guy that had the Tuft of Drew Barrymore's hair that he couldn't stop stop smelling was the thin man. That's been glover. They weren't looking for head. Tim Curry Crispin Glover. Honestly couldn't pick them up out of a lineup. But he's like one of the minions Harrison Sniffing Minion nutro when he started when he jumped in the race car. Because because I guess he's also Tim Curry's hired racecar driver right and then came into his drew carey more straight. It was like H- you don't have to chase Jason. He's in a circle but like yes. Why is this happening? He's not going anywhere he's practicing for the big race right but then they do go off off the track into traffic which vary a bridge. That looks like it's a bridge in San Francisco but they're all in La. I don't know what I would originally this would be. And why there's no traffic on it right car. Well to your point Jamie another thing. I really like about this movie. especially as it pertains to like kind of the action the fighting and all that is that We get to see a woman participate in a chase scene being the driver and and then she plays essentially a game of chicken with this bad guy and she wins and he flipping over your car unaffected. She does win I'm basically magic. But she wins nonetheless. Yeah I guess. Let's just get out where we like to talk about. Learn there was. Ah but it is. I mean it is cool that it's kind of like baked into the premise. That they're all like they're gonNA win and that's like not always like you know it's it's rare for women to get to be an action movie that all much less be the winners with the main characters. I mean it's right. We can count on one on maybe two hands. The action franchises that have women as protagonists that also like performed super well at the box office in like This this feels like us sort of like like weird to revisit step of sort of progress sometimes in some ways round but the other third thing that I liked because I was worried at the end where they're all fighting in the climactic battle sequence where there's too many fights to keep track of and I can't tell a lot of like Crispin Glover and Sam Rockwell. I honestly was having trouble at some point on the WHO's But Drew Barrymore Dylan she gets kind of Damsel old called for a little bit but then she frees herself and kills them all with a chair and so like that they like kind of dodged the Damsel one of the heroes at the end. So I thought that was cool too. She also gets a Nice Cathartic moment where she was wronged and lied to and used by is Sam Rockwell glasses and then she gets a nice moment of being able to like beat the shit out of him before he explodes and dies the helicopter. Yeah she really does get her revenge. And then she's like well back to Tom Green and then the character who is actually the the most dams old is Bosley a man so that was nice change of pace and then they yeah and he doesn't and it's like it's nice because I feel like that's another like like thing that I don't even know how consciously they're doing it but I think we've been very easy to write that character of like I can't believe I'm being saved by ladies this is so emasculating Elaine. Both the bill. Murray thank you clearly more skilled than. IMD's help me. So I was like all right. That's you know there are. There are like kernels annals of of good stuff going on here yeah and it is fun to watch as fucking confusing and misogynist as and like you know like current problematic on every every single level. It's just there's just so there's so much happening that you can't even when I don't know what's going on. I can't look away right. Yeah it is fun yeah it just looked fun. It's silly there's a lot of like ton of explosions like jokey like sexual innuendo. The jokes were Cameron. Diaz is like oh I signed that waiver so you can stick it in my slot any time which you know brings us to some of the things that perhaps are not great about this okay. We're getting into it. Is there anything else that anyone thought was particularly really well done. I liked the soundtrack. Sabotage is fun because they're just in these trialed song written for this movie as independent woman part one but also there is a song during the fight scene in the alleyway with the thin man The lyrics of which are smack. My Bitch up. I think that might be the name of the song so pitch. Maybe I didn't think of that. We'll take it it's a fun song. untung okay okay. So where do we dive in. I don't know The the beginning where drew barrymore's in disguise L J. Yes yeah that's let's start at the beginning saying how do we. I definitely didn't remember that didn't see it coming and was like slack jaw the way a these. Three characters are introduced. It's like gets progressively worse. Where it's like Cameron Diaz is? She's in a bikini. All right great right and then Lucy Liu gets this comically long. She's like shaking her hair out for one takes off her helmet so long. Whips our hair back and forth. And then you're like where's Drew Barrymore at and then you're no role. I actually did remember this from when I watched the movie as having Ashley. Oh Damn I guess I was okay with it when I first saw this and now I'm like this is really crazy. Yeah Yeah and not only the local j. a black man but also an African man with like yes right to take law and then even his parachute is matching. His African African guard. Everything every inch of fabric on this was quote Unquote African garb. And I don't even think he tried to do do an accent because why it's already he did already already disguise. Yeah the the disguises are just I mean there's not a good one one in the bunch that was that was alarming. I'm like what yeah. What so yes? And that's not the last time that Drew Barrymore specifically typically Jeez later in Brown Brown face yes there so yeah. We'll we'll get to that in a moment just to close a conversation on the extremely bizarre. Ll Cool J. Mask disguise scenario. The way that reveal happens is that like drew Barrymore as L. Cool Cool J has like grabbed this guy in. They've jumped out of a plane together because he has a bomb strapped to him this guy and he just shows the a bomb. Yeah and then. The bag is like this very luxurious couches in the in First Flask first-class that. I've never seen a plane like that next level. There's also that racist flight attendant cool J. There's no way you could be in first class us just like thank God you know progress here. They're trying to show like even though this is a white woman inside of a black body. This person's still deserves rights right so so many same flight attendant. A few minutes earlier was like it's not the seats that have gotten smaller. It's your ass has gotten gotten bigger. He's like making fun of fat shaming. This woman. Who I guess yeah? It's like one of the first lines at spoken in the he had blown up and he never it comes back I was like maybe he'll come back and he'll you know after blown-up but this bad guy who has a bomb strapped to him. He's like who are you people people you crazy bastard and then. Ll Cool J.. Takes out the voice modifying device and then it's Drew Barrymore's voice and she says I think you mean crazy bitch won't eggs on an because he's not a bastard she's a bitch this. This is like the movie totally. We've talked about this on the show before but just like that very bizarre late nineties early two thousands like catchphrase. He's based feminism that is based in nothing it stands for nothing. It's so jarring to see now. Actually I'm a crazy badge judge and then she takes off L. O.. Cool his face phase. You're also I used to one of my favorite movies. troublingly used to be the master of disguise. Dana carvey vehicle two thousand to his last starring vehicle. Yes and that is like the rubber face masks of celebrities was just like a very strong trend. During this you're the first Bush administration. It was just scary. Free Open season season so so then a few scenes after this we have the massage parlor guys ing where Lucy Salou is massaging. Tim Curry hate. That don't like it. And then drew and cameron come in an and the way they are dressed and the music cue that happens when they show up is like just like full-blown Japanese culture appropriation. Right and there's also a song that happens after the music. Cue The lyrics of which are turning. I think I'm turning Japanese. He's which not to not to like ring a Ding a little belen. Anyone but Kirsten Dunst weirdly did a cover of that horrible song like it was like ten years but still that song has a weird troubled legacy of being sung by white people constantly that yeah that's let's of the and this is Jamie as you pointed out not the only time that these white women cameron and drew. Yeah Dress in very appropriate to give garb because in a later scene. Lucy and cameron are like belly dancing in a scene appropriating Indian Indian culture and then knowing in this Indian no and then drew barrymore in Brown face. Yeah walks into the scene. Picks up up a bottle with the dudes fingerprints on it. Why why it was her face actually brown or does yes? She's has brown makeup Vich. It's only her. It's it's it's very busy like and I think it is also telling that no one talked about it or cared right when this movie came out that there's just like drew carey very more very famous actor producer of the movie in full on Brown face for a whole scene. And just everyone's like I think they probably have like a board of like what environments can these girls look hot and then they like went backwards from there right they reverse engineered from there. 'cause like yeah when they showed up to to one of the scientists house who had us guys yeah they had access to the vault or something. They're like we're now a yodeling telegram and we'll say Yadel's to this guy to get his eyeballs scant information. It did seem like yeah like it was all a ploy to get them into different like revealing outfits with no consideration given to like the culture at our absolutely because it was like. That's the only way you can get this information. You can't can't like yeah let's see. Let's astronaut wrote it. Can Armentieres is a jeopardy genius. Like they're smart or at least. That's how vindictive we don't really see that ways that they're like getting information or advancing this story and their mission is truly like de activity of eighty men by their looks. Yes it's a appropriating other cultures and extremely racist way most of the time and or it is seduction. Yeah so yeah I mean even the fact that like Lucy Liu I think like written into that massage parlor scene in the first place is very lazy as Ian telling like it's a movie written by three white guys and it's super show like perfect right masseuse crazy parlors. Yeah let's let's do through the laziest thing we can think of. And then it's not it's not good not more on the seduction aspect of the art. Are you know attempts to get what they want where to begin. Oh there's a lot is every Oh yes all of them and we have talked about this a lot on the podcast. Where on one hand? If women can use their sexuality to get things that they want particularly from straight men great because because for a long time the way the world was set up. That was pretty much one of the only tools women had at their disposal to get results right on the other hand This movie had the opportunity to show women doing other things and using other tactics besides her sexuality to get what they want like their brains and their fighting skills skills and things like that our ability to fly into Spain super genius powers. And we'll see a little bit of it throughout the movie but I was truly shocked by how often they use their sexuality to get what they want. Because it's which doesn't like it from what I know of it that's also so like a staple of the Teasha that this movie just elects to not update in any way and possibly make worse. Yeah like that that that whole. It's bizarre because we are giving these kind of cool facts about these very underwritten characters and then instead of ever finding Out like for example. Why they worked for Charlie while qualifies them to work for Charlie? How did they get in touch with Charlie Bill? Murray fit into all of this like what exactly are their job qualifications and like but they just derail the plot of a movie regularly to show a series of dates that they're on like yeah every twenty minutes to see all three of them on a date. Yeah it was like why this is like if they're working. They shouldn't have time for that right right. I've time to be going on a date or making dinner for their band or whatever you like making dinner for Matla blank between seen like yes. That's like that's the identity you chose. This is our secret identity is being a bikini. Yeah we're all friends to actor actor and she lives on set with him in a trailer in a trailer affecting genius. So why hasn't glad you brought this up because the movie for some reason Sets aside time for all three of the angels to have a romantic storyline. I think I know the reason Well it might interest you to know that when this movie was originally pitched. Apparently there were no romantic. subplots bud drew. Barrymore one of the producers of the film decided that she wanted to include love interest for all three of the angels And that they were added so that the women watching this movie could live vicariously through who these characters who were having it all true. It's a bummer. You underestimated us. Yeah I understand these kick ass women if they're having having boy problems. I'm having boy problems so if they're not having boy problems who are then. That's such A. That's such a bummer. I mean I would imagine drew. You feels differently these days. That's always a bummer. To hear where you're like it wasn't even make g insisted not like it's so easy to throw gender the bus now. I'll play devil's advocate for just a moment in in that when we see female protagonists in movies with demanding demanding jobs like the ones that the interest have we often see like their romantic and personal lives suffering as a result so the fact that they do have. It's like I'm not saying I'm for it but the fact that we see them on screen I guess having it all but like it bugged me. Yes but I was also like like okay. It's two thousand. Yeah I get what you're saying. It is also nice to see that it's not interfering with their work because Saturday other than the like the same rockwell relationship thing but they're still able to have a personal life right and be really good at their jobs at the same time yes the fact that it is three Hetero Romances. That for the most part don't have anything to do with the main storyline except for the Sam Rockwell Drew Barrymore one on yes. It's perhaps not the best writing. It's guys it's really bad writing. Now hold on. This is very. I wouldn't be as annoyed at the constant derailing to go see Matla blank on yet another date with his girlfriend. He knows nothing about we knew anything about Lucy. Liu's character you don't know anything about and then it's so like back so lazy where it's like. Yeah technically we see them do stuff but it's like in montage where you're like. Oh I guess. Cameron Diaz knows how to clone people. Oh I thought she was just on jeopardy but I guess she's knows how to clone people and they're just clones a hand or something or like Three D.. Printers turn a hand. Three D. Printer manhandled before three D.. Printers Ryun events right. She's again ahead of the curve and then it just like cut to a scene of her being. Like how do I call Luke Wilson. You're like man I like. I know much time used to like. Is She gonNA fuck this waiter like choices and men are also like. I mean Tom Green especially on again. Maybe he's a Nice Person House. He's a great guy. I don't know he won an award for this movie but it was for worst person in a move it was bad bad. It was clearly like. Oh they're fucking so that's why he's in this movie. No they met onset. Yeah oh I thought he was in the movie like as a a favor like she was like. Oh we can't do this. What my boyfriend interrogated like Carson Daly's and Josie and the push oh yeah No it's They met on this open. Then why was it seen even there. He was so weird knows Ohio so long he's a comedian let them improvise. But it was like you just onto the water and then and then when he comes back I was like I was extremely enraged. When he came back I was like how dare this? And then it's implied like they're gonNA GONNA end up together. Your boat guys. You'RE GONNA end up with the guy okay like I. I found the romantic subplots. Bee like fairy very frustrating. Because there's like the ingredients to so much cool stuff and it just constantly just distraction from the hard enough to understand what's going on and then I was like is Luke Wilson involved. No He's just taking up room in this. He takes her to a soul train intro. Where there's another weird racially charged scene? Where Cameron Diaz is dancing to baby? Got Back the rest of the crowd. How is predominantly black? And they're just like all staring at her being. Like what the fuck is this white girl doing. And then they like for no reason at all start start to like get on board with her minds and then she like wins the crowd over. And it's like what are you trying to say with this what's happened it's white white. Women can end racism by shaking their ass. Yes that's got the message that we can all be brought together. The enthusiasm of a the blonde am I who insisted on that scene being there. That was so unless they go onto dinner. Yeah well this is like all the dates Except for the Sam Rockwell dates nothing. There's no that I guess and hey hey off of a scene. It's planted earlier. Were Cameron Diaz has a dream that she's like dancing yes she wakes up and she okay. So there's no reason reason to have Cameron Diaz without pants at the beginning of absolutely none of that is justified and it's horribly written but this is the movies justification. Why but yeah? I mean I think that speaks a lot to again. These these characters being so underwritten because we the things we do know about them are or like usually told in montage like you mentioned and or they're just inconsistent and weird and don't pay off in any meaningful way. I still don't have a grasp on like what each of their specialty is. Like a all sing their own Cameron Diaz seems to be the one who drives if there's a driving Vinko she's the driver and she flips but then she she flips but then she also sometimes like does sound like tech photo enhancement stuff and she's a computer Louis but Lucy Liu also does a bunch of that too and then she also does some like bomb wires really wires. That's all that almost made sense wants to make my go. 'cause space technology has space. 'cause she's I could be and and then mason horses. Oh also back in Matt Leblanc relationship. Even Matt Leblanc. Didn't WanNa know more information about her. No and she was like look. I'm not who I say I am. I'm not actually a bikini wax. And he's like. Oh bummer. Thought that was pretty high and then and then the energy in this. She's like now I have to go and then there's no follow up questions. He's not like way are you going. He's like Oh. I guess you're going to Charlie. So it's like he knew about Charlie. The whole time but didn't know who he was is leaving. Charlie was managing the I think so I was like Important Bikini Wax Business. I gotTa go meet up with Charlie. Okay also thinks like he also gets. It's weirdly threatened at the beginning like trolley. That's right that's chick she's like. I don't know what this is not a good relationship Asia for either of you bad there. There's just so much and like Lucille Lulu. She nags herself in the for like it just the way. They're written in his bananas like the that she nags herself in the opening scene because she accidentally slips up and said something. Smart in front of Matt Leblanc I. Did you know that that. And she's like it's crazy what you can learn on the Internet and the smarter have any information about my backstory at all and he is relieved by that radio and he's like okay. Cool Kiss Kiss. Oh Oh can I okay. I'm just my notes are chaotic for this one. The the like the movie the scene where okay so this is a scene with Sam Rockwell and not Crispin Glover may be okay. I'll let you know it's the it's the date that Dylan goes on where they talk about her daddy issues. That is similar. Okay that makes sense so that was does So what happens in this scene. It's one of the date scenes but the twist as it has bearing on the plot What happens is they're like on a date and then he asks her shockingly a little about herself and she says well? My mom died when I was young. I never met my dad and he immediately is like. Oh so that's probably wii worked for an old man that you've never seen which is so aggressive and she doesn't and she's a responded is it react to it yeah at all and then he knocks over scrabble board Lord and she's like wow. This is cool then she tries to leave. She's like I am to go. I had to go work for my like just like Oh daddy issues awesome Hookup Cup like He. He confirmed she has daddy issues and then like cool clear for landing for Sam Rockwell but then she has to go and then he kind of like baby. It's cold outside her and like wait. What about the Shaken Bake Shaken Beg product placement? God knows how much money they spend that the I hope that like there. Because he's like Oh we gotta make the shake and bake and then she's like what if we just did shake don't don't forget. He suggests that she is the one who does the baking because young women be big the add to get every everything thing in in this. Yeah it was so I wonder if shaken big hide to like pay more because they end up fucking as a result of the product. This make you shake off. We gotta take a quick break. But we'll be back for more discussion Hey Jamie how we call each other all the time time on our phone well. The Future of phone service is here and it is called visible amazing for forty bucks a month. You get unlimited data ETA messages. On minutes on Veritas Four G.. Lt Network incredible goose. What what they don't do annual contract so you're not going to be stuck in a contract and when they they say unlimited data they mean unlimited data Caitlyn so visible? Won't charge you. By how much data you use. It's unlimited wow guess what they also don't have physical phones stores is good because I hate to go to those lines. Suck Boo if you're ready to learn more or switch to visible than head divisible dot com slash. Tb See to get twenty dollars off your first month service. When you sign up and exclusive special offer Jesper Bechtel Kastner's that's visible dot com slash? TC who tirelessly are you. Speaking of Charlie just a little bit more about him. The angels relationship with Charlie like. They've never met him. He's always watching them. And Yeah. It's like this weird voyeuristic God like like I'm GonNa Control you. You're never allowed to meet me. We can only communicate through this other man who is a liaison between us who will also treat. You've you've weird. Yes who will treat you. Because they're all cuddling in that first yes on his shoulder like lady trying on them putting his hands is on their knees and stuff like that also not a good look for bill. Murray who already has I mean just look up as domestic abuse record on no. I'm not a fan. I also just think he should not go to people's weddings and he's a fucking weird l.. But that's just me you weren't invited. Don't go my favorite thing. Better disruptive paid a lot of money for each custody here this is my day shows here. I'm the Bill Murray of my wedding but anyway these characters are written to be obsessed with Charlie like there in what the dynamic of this relationship. It's it feels. Like vaguely gas lady. Borderlines I don't know that something was very weird about this dynamic. But they're like we love you. Charlie your Biz. Charlie's like you don't even know him as one of the qualifications that why they were chosen they all of daddy issues. Learn about druce it so the daddy issues like it's so annoying. I like but the the thing. Uh I think makes me like the was the weirdest or felt the weirdest is like yes. Charlie is like this old mysterious guy who's addicted to controlling rolling young hot women. He has framed photos of them in his home. Feeling very safe about all of this but the fact that they don't question it at all and they I just don't like they don't they're just horny. They're just like a low simmering horny for the predicament. It seems like like I. I don't know which I know is a carryover from the seventies but it's just I don't know any time they're like well that's what the show is like. It's a bowl but why patient like do stuff well that show was damaging and Yeah you can update stuff. Y- The show was was I think often criticized for being Jiggle Jiggle TV which was basically just emphasizing the sex appeal of the female leads. which a reason for them to run their tits Flex Baywatch is a later version of it which is not an issue? That's corrected in this movie. Not at all. There's like I mean in the in the the weird soul train seen. There's a ton of slow Mo Cameron Diaz who was just. I made a list of all unnecessary. Necessary usually male gaze shots in the beginning. We already talked about this. A little bit blue taking off her helmet and whipping her hair around around in slow motion and then another completely. Random and unnecessary shot a few moments later where she takes off a fencing helmet one of the flashbacks and and whipped hair around again and then later she tells Cameron Diaz to do it. She's like your Goddamn here. which is another time? They interrupt the scene to flirt. Yeah it's so annoying Wilson get your shit out work This one we already touched on his well but Cameron Diaz is dancing around in her underwear in her house and then opening up the door for a package delivery in her underwear Fiat stupid. Yeah and then saying You can feel free to stick things in my slot and not supposed to be. You know a hilarious joke. And then she runs into her own door. Yes yes in that House unaware of the warehouses in relation to where she's standing yes makes little wariness ernest goes all out the door because of the CPS man which would Make her probably a bad spy fighter person but she's really good at it so I don't okay now. Lip Do backflips. And not just the floor for a two point five seconds or whatever it is I go into that vault. Why why? Can't you walk into her house. The with with these just they try to get especially Cameron Diaz naked as much as possible as early as possible. Yes although there's a scene where like drew. Barrymore is like needlessly naked as she's like dangling from. Oh yeah she's still laugh well yeah She walks into that house with those little boys. I hate scenes like that where they're like. Oh now the kids are horny to interesting like no I. Don't I think if it was also like still people are like little boys. Seeing adult women bodies is funny and not traumatic. They were like. Oh that's like a hilarious. Boys would love that as opposed to like this is actually maybe we affect them their older very good grief Here's a few more on my list. Jason Dont Jiggle TV baby Shot of Lucy lose ASS is. She crawls over drew in the car to fix the intercom at the drive through. Yeah there's a shot of Lucy was ass again in a lab. Leather skirt is sound effect on that. If Sick Oh yeah. She's it's like square. This isn't even achieving the intended effect which brings me to the list of all the times where the angels. Israel's use seduction as technique to get what they want. which again I feel? It's every far too often. It's always like immediately the after they've just done something that you're like. Oh that was pretty cool like right after that huge fight scene. We're like wow this is awesome and then it's a dating seduction montage right right right right. Because there's the one where Lucy Liu pretends to be an efficiency expert She's dressed as a dominatrix with a whip. And then she comes in and smacks her whip around and it makes all the computer programmer dudes all horny. And then she like plays kind of a ditz at the end of that scene where she's like ABC. Can anyone like show me was. You're talking about destroying and then that leaves drew and Cameron who are dressed as men in this scene. which like that worked for me? Okay Yeah but then they Then that's when Cameron Diaz You know gets disrobes completely yeah and you know flips around in the vault which was also funny. 'cause they're like she needs to be invisible and she puts on this white suit with but but you can still see. Her is the flesh on her face and she is. The camera looks directly in the camera. The one part of skin that is on her that you you can see. Look at that right in the lens of the camera. And it's like Dude Dude. It just keeps going defeats the whole purpose of what you were doing doing. The whoever's watching I see floating is I guess and then the bolt opened by itself. We should probably investigate so bizarre and then there's the scene where Drew Barrymore's character distracts the man who's in Corwin car while Lucy breaks into the trunk but like very Moore's there's like she's like in a fully unzipped race car suit like she's like. Oh my God ladies like what what you you went to the police academy or something. I don't know if she looked the steering wheel which is so jaded because that's like so many Hanjour engines. He's not the only driver of that car. Probably not didn't seem like a clean. I'd grow like like bye-bye so weird. Yeah and then the costuming also so like they are private investigators detective spot. I don't even know what their role is exactly. Yeah but they're doing a lot of like covert operations. They are like fighting and flipping around a lot and yet they're in outfits outfits most of the time where almost their entire chest is exploited. And it's like if you flip your tits are out there right now and just say what if they cut cutoff where they're like scuba diving where they were like swimming. Up to whatever the island was where Sam Rockwell had Bosley Cameron Diaz is scuba scuba gear was like open to her mom's like so. How do they keep you mess? Seems inefficient same thing when she's undercover as as a waitress and every other like every other person working there is wearing a normal outfit and she's got again all the way down and and then she's like Haha I'm really blending in. You're not you look foolish. Yeah I mean like if you want to expose your skin. Dan Embrace your sexuality beautiful. We're all for that but to do that when you're also trying to accomplish a covert spy mission Shen and you're fighting a bunch and your boobs are GonNa get in the way doesn't track. I just want to see action movie. Where whatever woman is in charge is like AAC modify let me get my ponytail holder out? Put my hair back right on my face. 'cause it's GonNa take these heels off because that's not gonNa make me run faster zip but Mike my two close but not my fight mode as opposed to like let me be the sexiest thing ever and then get to it. The twenty second hair hair whippings. Just exhausting was it was there more I think we've already covered everything else. In terms of the lake male gaze seduction there was there was one line that Drew Barrymore's has been she is when Sam Rockwell first betrays her which is also a very funny any scene to me because I think that may be at some point in the production or writing process. They realized that maybe the movie was really confusing. Because there's that whole shot where the camera is circling circling Drew Barrymore. And she's basically like explaining what has happened. She's like so that person wasn't who I thought was was it and Sam Rockwell is like no oh and I guess that other person who I thought they were and he's like no she's like and then I would deduce that you are also not who I thought were. He's he's like no like the camera makes three full revolution but in that scene she is on a in quote unquote date with him but then she makes this bizarre joke about. She's like well. I'm a full-service per implying that anytime. She's a spy she's also having sex x with the people she spying on it was weird. Joke Yeah Can we talk about Vivian. I have mixed feelings on. Vivian Levian I on one hand was kind of expecting Vivian. To just kind of be left there to just kind of not do anything. I like that she at least turned out to be relevant. Yeah sure plot But she is also I mean. The seduction trope is alive and well shows a roof bill. Murray Yeah which is very villainous? Yeah Yeah I don't know it was I'm still. I think I'm still confused. I don't know exactly what she wanted but I'm glad she turned out to be important yet. Her motivations were not clear but depending on the circumstances I usually appreciate a female villain. You know her character was not necessarily well developed but nor was anyone nor will. She wasn't singled out. She was Sam's business partner and also lover or girlfriend or wife they can be like like my lady or my girl in reference the Vivian Relationship Alison show and then he kissed him back but then she also fully let him flex somebody else. So they're both sure and we don't yeah they chose not to defined for the movie doesn't either finish. Yeah that's Just Ping normally do you think then. Maybe so this is kind of thinking through this in real time. But do you think drew Barrymore's character is sort of like subtly subtly inadvertently slut shamed because she does have sex Avila and then that puts her in a position where she's like oops. I didn't notice that he was the bad guy because I I was too busy like sucking dig the villains. Definitely sled shame her. You like you silly girl I happen. Of course you can just like yeah. At least you're or a good lay. Now I'm GonNa Kill Your friends and your daddy and I saw understand how drew barrymore didn't die when he shot her in the head. But whatever I wasn't the head they went reversed and went to slow Mo.. She fell backwards and then the bullet missed her head. Hit the window behind her shoes and it and then she got naked children. She got for the children. Yes look but That's what we're supposed to think. I bet she yeah. She choreographed it so that she because she wanted them to think that she was hit by the bullet. There she implant yeah she was orchestrating. This whole thing and I think that like kind of the villains definitely sledgehammer but it seems like kind of like the story does is to Because they make her out to be like. Oh she's like the more sexually open I don't know how to like correctly phrase it but yeah like they make her her out to be silly for being sexually active and then they punish her in the story like for having sex right the direct consequence of her having Sex is that she almost gets shot in the head. Yeah all of her friends almost die like well she's she does get to redeem deem herself though she does. Yeah so yeah. I don't know I think the movie doesn't really know how it feels about it. But then she she also. It's implied that she. She has sex with Tom. Green at the beginning of the million on his boat. Yes so why. Why did they talk? They have a conversation that low. No don't know but I guess I'd I like that. Yeah I suppose posed. She is framed as being as having multiple sexual partners. The movie I think punishers hurt to some degree. I agree but like at least her friends like you silly slut. Look what you've got us into or anything like that that's true so they're all actively encouraging each other to you have as much sex as possible like stop what you're doing keep flirting stop them. And we're in the middle of the mission right now. But go and try to fuck Luke Wilson now now and she's like I'm nervous. You say fuck him here like ask Dick. Oh what a strange Molina. Yeah I do want to bring to everyone's attention That Lucy Liu was paid millions less than her white. co-stars has both movies I don't know the exact numbers for the first movie. But for the sequel full-throttle Cameron Diaz was paid twenty million dollars. Lucy Liu paid only four million. Dan didn't know it was. That's all. Well it's so sad and if you're putting performance next two performances I mean zero is terrible. Lose Amazing Yeah. Aw that's so there some you know standard Hollywood racism for you in addition to the very weird ways in in which the narrative handles race also behind the scenes. It's also handled horribly. Oh Jesus Christ but I yeah well I guess I wanted to before we before we wrap up. I guess I just wanted to take the tamp of like. Is it necessary to do. I mean I'm I'm in the grand sense my cool Elizabeth thanks is directing a movie. It's got a diverse cast like that's exciting. Dang that's cool but Do we want this again. Is there a way. I guess it's just. This seems like one of the franchises prizes and I feel like the most reboots where they're like. I know that women were done a wild disservice by this franchise multiple times. But we're going to give it another shot. I can't think of an example of that ever going particularly well and I don't know I think it's just like it's it's frustrating I wonder uh if studios and DUB is are afraid. People won't see female lead action movies. If it's not already the thing we are familiar with like if it's now already attached to a superhero franchise or a reboot of something. I mean some things have have done really well but like the things that I'm like recently are like wonder woman in Marble Like these are things that are already stors female. Yeah exactly so it's like if it's a thing that's like it's its own thing like the Shirley's thron when they came. What was it called again that one? Oh this is more recent one. or She's fighting. Everybody and she is like really cool. Oh Atomic Lon yes which I watched and is also also very confusing but action is fucking killer. That is great but I don't know if they did that. Well I don't think it did Shirley's the Ron and her peak. You know I I so I feel like there are probably people who are like I mean we could try but we WANNA make money. Here's the remake. Yes I here's my theory on all of this and this. This is something a trend that we've noticed on the podcast is that the trajectory usually goes from there being no representation Shen to an attempt at representation which is usually bad And not nuanced at all and then as years progress better more nuanced representations. I think the same thing applies to just like stories overall. Where like for the longest time? Women didn't get to be at the helm home of action franchises and then they did get to be their uncanny valley like this movie. Yeah we're like tomb raider which we talked about and win which is like likes agree. Just you know. Same Era sexualize. D- woman the movie Right and then and down. The road we are getting slash will probably get more nuanced. Like Original Action Franchises starring women. So I think we're still in the stage of like we're not used to blonde women are allowed to direct now right. I've taken away from recent years is now it's like. We can have several blonde directors actors working at any given time as long as they were already famous when they direct and eventually brunettes. Then we'll have people of color. Jeez I hate I hate that probably tracks. It's it is where I. I hope the movie is good. I'm glad it exists. It does already though it it strikes me as feeling like a weird like a couple years from now people will be like. Oh Yeah I guess that that was just like a a little shove in the right direction action but I hope that there is a you know like dislike is GonNa take one of those out of nowhere breakout movies that is like oh you can tell an original story starring diverse cast of women. That isn't like it like movies. That are rebooted like feel so genetically engineered do well that they kind of just even the people In front and in back camera or very talented it just feels like it feels like a science experiment it does. Yeah but I think we need a few of those that are going to be box office. Hits to show Mr Hollywood that yes pete weak- Mister Charlie Charlie himself like. I don't know how to the to to show that like doc women female lead action franchises can be box office successes. That women can direct those and still be box office success. So we're still in this stage of like we on the back door cast or like yes we're were you know. Let's move on but I think the general movie going population isn't quite there. I mean even the fact that we that it's like we have to explain like this math problem about like. When are we going to have a really good movie take well? It's doesn't seem likely we'll have a very good movie for at least ten years because men aren't ready and they're like I mean yeah I I I don't know it it is. I feel weirdly like weary of it but I also yeah but also just for the sake of a good movie i WanNa see some day I I hope it does. Well yeah same. I think it'll be far more feminist than what you would think would be more of a feminist text in this in two thousand. Charlie's angels sure it is still quite regressive as we have pointed out for many reasons but there are some like moments of like two thousands thousands feminism catchphrases such. Oh I never send a man to do a woman's job I would says. Yeah you're like WHOA. There's a moment at the beginning where Drew Barrymore is like. Well if he is threatened by a strong woman then you shouldn't be with them and talk for another five minutes about like. How could I be with him? How can I make this work? There's those were the two that I had plus Lucy Liu talking to tim curry being like my hands aren't going anywhere near your staff. And she also keeps rejecting this man at Korman's Orleans party being like no it's like we're supposed to be like feminist icon. And then you have one of those weird slippy moments where Vivian Dan when she's heading on bill. Murray whose character I other than the weird like my girls. They're like vibe. You get at the top but his character was generally like pretty chill by like it was in fact I would call him mostly doofus. Yeah he was more likely wasn't like lecherous character. But then when Vivian comes and she's like she kind of comes in like fuck consent like she and he's like I don't know about this we're co workers and she's like fuck you and you're like Whoa doesn't tell her to leave. You like starts a fire and pours wine like we shouldn't be doing this. But do you want wind wind. Yeah that's I so like so much of this era of movies it's constantly is just like the way people interact is so uncanny valley the and not I mean it's a movie but it's also like there's no criticism put on the guys that are like constantly Ogling Charlie's angels because they're framed rammed their characters are written so that it seems like that's what they want they want to be started because there's an and then also that like thing that the worst kind the guy will bring up of assuming that a woman's sexuality is some sort of plot against them this movie place to those stereotypes go yeah heart well if issued seems attracted to you if she's GonNa kill you like remember in your life your money. Yeah Well Gee Eh yeah. This is all to say that I think this twenty nine thousand nine reboot of Charlie's angels. It's coming out just based on on the more diverse cast alone I think will hopefully be a more like inclusive intersectional actional text. Then we've seen so far. Yeah it seems like it will be as seems like that's a priority which is great. Yes because I think a lot the people will see it. I think it'll do. My guess is that it'll do fairly well at the box office hoping I'll go I'll go. I'll see it twice no in but yeah those were all my thoughts. Does anyone have any other final thoughts about the movie. Oh did you. They were in a band. The angels during the credits. Oh yes. They're all playing in a band together and we don't know why just address like Green David. What Song Honesty shut it off? The second movie ended. I didn't know what happened during the. Yeah I got some Josie and the pussycats five productivity boom. That was after. Yeah those oh well but the I mean the the comic book who knows what came first. We'll never yeah. Yeah they're in a band so good for them for them and women in rock and roll and and then finally yes Does movie pass. The Bechtel passed yet does. Yeah I forgot to pay close attention as I should have. Because we've been on a break. I forgot how to do my job that it's hard to not here being very toxic for the last one I I mean women definitely talk to each other a lot I got I got a few different. I mean there's a lot of two to three line. Exchanges between the three angels and usually it will divert pretty quickly. There's not full scenes. My favorite one is the scene between Melissa McCarthy and Lucy Liu yes Melissa McCarthy's in this movie Yes she's done a huge disservice because it's two thousand and she is playing the only female employee at the place where Lucius pretending to be a dominatrix for reasons. I I couldn't tell you. And she lucy walks in and Melissa McCarthy gets a name or names Doris. She's like yeah I have that baton I I have the one female coworker name and she's like Hi. I'm Doris I'm so excited that you're here and lose fuck you like is I am not quoting it. But I'm only interested talking to the man right and then and then Melissa McCarthy's left in the dust and she calls after like you bitch and the whole whole exchange passes like I heard that and she said she liked that she called her a bitch. I was planning and it'd be she. He was being dominatrix. Just being bombed saw it does pass not as much as it should also a lot of the conversations conversations are them talking about men but as it relates to like the job and the mission so like it's not men in the romantic context. It's it just happens to be about men but they're actually talking about the mission so I don't know when they're talking about dating for ten of which does happen a lot. Yes yes but there are times. Yeah whereas they're technically they're talking about work but there weren't always pertains to the men men which by the way the men in this movie are either villains wins or Bosley who is doofus and doesn't seem to be very competent at really anything except for chewing some object into the shape of of a gun or or dyan is okay as long as that was to everybody just really a gun out of Iraq or something and then never used it never came back checking. The only other man is Offscreen we never see him voice except for the back of his head at the end so yeah I guess the men are generally the enemies in this film. Get to the point that we can do what we do to women to men in this Yeah that's true. So now yesterday the Bechtel test I but the nipple this is actually kind of challenge I know so Zero to five nipples is our scale. We read it based on its representation of women so taking into account everything that we've discussed Including the bizarre end up setting offensive ways in which this movie handles things like race and cultural appropriation. The excessive use of Male Gaze cinematography graffiti the underwritten female characters the far too much emphasis on the romantic relationships. Also just in terms of the three renew main characters. There's just absolutely not diversity. In terms of body shape and size they are all extremely thin conventionally only attractive women and it'd be nice to see more inclusion in terms of body size and shape by diversity and especially especially the early two thousands of such a particularly brutal time for policing women's bodies yes way which just makes it all the more frustrating trading? This movie didn't do anything to support for. Sure I would say this only gets like one and a half nipples leg ingrate that it is like a female driven action franchise. It was a box office. Hit Ninety three million budget it and a two hundred sixty three million. It was very successful so people saw it and while it is not necessarily an inclusive use of progressive feminist. Tex It is I know I know here we I suppose it was a stepping stone for for stuff to come later. So I'm going to give it one and a half nipples and I'll give one half to each of my gals Actually no I'm GONNA give all one and a half to Lucy Liu who was drastically underpaid fide idea by that much. That's absurd okay I'm GONNA go one. I think I it's like it's a fun movie but I wouldn't never recommend it to anyone not even as really really a hate watch it is like very of its time. I respect that it. You know just a female lead project doing well at the box office us even if it was written directed and everything else besides two female producers has everything to do with men male gaze and horny girls I love horny girls but not when written by men so yeah I don't know and I roller is describing. I give it one fun. Romp Hate Bill Murray and you know MC gee I checked it I checked in and I'll make G. We'll take him but I checked in to see what he's up to and he just produced tall girl on net flicks okay so still unto female lead thing. I'm just like maybe I would hope that the the men who are responsible for writing and directing this movie have since tried to move on and it seems like that is sort of the case. I WANNA give people room. For Growth Growth Mick Jagger is now producing tall girl having seen it. I'll I'm tall. I'm interested John. August wrote the Aladdin Aladdin reboot that came out this year and I think he tried to write a song about women in it right. He was like I should have a job like that was an adjustment is given some political aspirations in that movie and a female friend. Okay so so you know. Everyone's were all but it gets one nipple obviously and it goes to Lucille Mhm I guess I'd say I give it a whole to two nipples. Because they try you know they made they worked and with the tools they were given in the year. Two thousand say didn't know no better and also it was really cool. Seeing women kick gas. I did think the action scenes really fun. I did have fun watching the movie their lab points whereas I rolling because I was like God. This is nuts but also when it came out AH. I don't think I felt that way. We just didn't know better. Harness action is what I've learned really like it cool. Yeah I think it is a net in the right direction and that hopefully they're a bunch of girls who saw that when they were young. And we're like cool. Maybe I could be an astronaut. Who Rides Horses and disarms bombs and also dates? 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Charlie's Angels (2000)

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Charlie's Angels (2000)

"Once upon a time three movie fans went to college and took film classes after graduating they were each each hired for very boring day jobs but I took away from all that and now they podcast for me. My name is Charlie. PODCAST will contain detailed plot spoilers and mild language. This is going to be long sometimes when the throat just been fast listener discretion is advised. We get started this millennium today. We're discussing Charlie's angels. It's starring Cameron Diaz Drew Barrymore Lucy Liu Bill Murray Sam Rockwell Tim Curry Kelly Lynch directed by Mick Gene Gene. This is the now plan goes always ready to get some action Arnie. This is Marjorie and this is the host is either crazy bastard or a crazy bitch Jacob yeah. That was this film's Tagline. Get some action giant flaming a with three hot women on the poster you mean maybe like too hot women at Lucy Liu. I don't like cameras. I just don't like her. As a person I have at it interactions with her living out here in Hollywood or at least her mom Cameron Diaz. Don't say anything her mom who who was handler not a pleasant woman really I always enjoy unpleasant celebrity encounters. They are Super Fun but I didn't really have this movie on on my radar. I remember fall two thousand. I knew it was coming out already. You are the music guy I mean. I know destiny child's fan but this song was everywhere. It was associated with this film. I feel like I remember that Song More than this movie Oh yeah. I don't think it was a hit until after this movie came out I mean before this movie came out. I'm I'm huge into destiny's child but let me tell you I did have the CD the music soundtrack after seeing this. I just remember fall of two thousand thousand Marjorie and I were dating and Marjorie is like let's go see. Charlie's angels like really why we went to our theater at the mall when that was still open and saw this movie I did see this one in theaters as well look up when he came out because I'm like this is either a colladay release or summary released lease because is dragged to it with my family when the family together we always like to go to the movies. That's unfortunate what we get stuck because it's usually gotta be more family friendly and so this is what I got dragged to. I'm guessing around. It came out in early November so this was our thanksgiving moving. I'm guessing you would see a lot of crap and a lot of crap some shots that you weren't really into this yeah with the three allegedly sexy ladies and all that I do feel like this is geared more for men than women yeah. I looking at it on paper. I mean I am a fan the NF Cameron Diaz. I've never met her mother so don't wait. You're Cameron Diaz Fan. That's Kinda weird. I certainly was back then. I'm sorry but there's there's something about. Mary just had me fall in love yeah. That was huge. I we're supposed to all fall in love with her. I just never did even before I met her mother. She's exact same character and there's something about Mary as she is in Charlie's angels. I there were a number of films that I'd seen her in and liked my best friends wedding very very bad things the mask well. I'd seen her in it. I can't say I liked her in it but it is funny to me how she became a star because I'm looking for the breakout film. I think that had to be. There's something about Mary. She was working before then but there's something about Mary. Thrust into the spotlight with that spiky hair drew drew barrymore. I'd had a crush on ever since she flashed David Letterman in the nineties. Yeah I guess she had her comeback with scream. Even though she's barely isn't that movie it's probably the best seen in that old franchise it is. I guess she was a working actress again by this point yeah and she had started to do things with her own production company which is flower films. She actually owns the rights. The Charlie's angels TV series. That's how this actually got made drew. Carey more optioned the rights and got a script and was starting her own production auction company. I mean she was popular again. You mentioned scream. I do think that was a big comeback for her. I mean you probably remember her. As one of two faces women women in Batman forever Oh yeah barely that's not a comeback anyone but after scream the wedding singer was a huge hit never never been kissed. Didn't she do some Cinderella movie to ever after so she started her own production company which is why we got. Donnie Darko by the way Okay Ed all is forgiven drew. She was Donnie Darko. She was one of the teachers that's right. She's still producing movies far more than she starring in them and she got this movie Meiji. She even handpicked Director Mick G now mic. G is one who I can't take seriously because he likes to call himself Mickey. Gee Not really into my birthday in two thousand nine. Did you meet his mother to know I met thermometer salvation which I was so excited for came came out the weekend of my birthday. I would've vegas for my birthday. I'm like no. I don't care if I'm in Vegas. I'm want to see Terminator Salvation and that is a pile all the never forgive Msci for that. I had to travel through time to give that red hair. I know and it really deserves. That red Arrow ruined by birthday. I will never forget that. This is his first film. I now know him more as a producer of television shows like chuck lethal weapon that I know him from film. Although I understand he's still making films for net flicks but casting you know when you talk about this Cameron D as Big Star Drew Barrymore more a producer be big star on the rise Mea. That's bigger get to meet and Cameron Diaz Lee though I get Cameron Diaz big at the time and then I I was always confused. Lucy Liu the mean one from ally mcbeal. I had no idea she was an ally mcbeal. Though I only watched an episode or two but yeah I know her. Mostly I think from the kill bill movies in that came out three years after this. was she anything at this time. I mean anything now well now. She's he's doing that. Sherlock TV series on television elementary. I think it's coming to its end but she's done that for seven years. At the time time I knew her because she was brought in the second season of ally mcbeal. If you look her up she did mostly television stuff and she was briefly briefly in Jerry Maguire but no this would I think a big movie role for her and one that very briefly set her up to be a film star then ballistic experts sever and that center right back down to television. You never heard about that. was there alternate casting. We always talk. There's there's always some fun. What if with a lot of films were there other people considered. Oh yes I guess he drew Barrymore was always going to be in it because she's producing well actually not necessarily on she was talking about just producing but not being in it but they did lock those two pretty soon but with Lucy Liu I always felt like one. Are these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong to name yeah so ice did some research into this and they tried everybody in Hollywood Hollywood. The first person offered it Angelina Jolie okay that makes sense. That would have been a big yet. You Notice Drew Barrymore dyed her hair red. They were going back to the original conception. We want on a Brunette redhead and a blonde. Yes I complained about that with the pilot makes it so much easier here especially since they're. GonNa use different names but Angelina Jolie said no did a movie that I considered to be a spiritual twin of this one she went and did Laura Croft Tomb Raider instead then they tried to get Jada Pinkett Smith. Who decided did she would do bamboozled instead okay but then they got somebody who didn't sign the contract. That's not going to be Lucy. Liu Tandy Newton Rutin she was signed. She was ready to do everything and then what screwed that up John Woo. If you remember mission impossible to was the film that Made Doug Ray Scott I'm not able to be wondering because he had to go back and do filming pick ups so they had to bring in someone else you Jackman got the role. It worked out for him. Well Tandy Newton was signed to do the third one until the mission impossible to pick ups interfered and they began a major hunt. Now who's going to be as your Gento Okay Ashley Judd Posh Spice Victoria Beckham out there boy Halle Berry Elena Bonham Carter new okay jodie Foster Jennifer Jason Leigh Gwyneth Paltrow tiffany amber thesis and Emma Thurman Case was lit everyone in Hollywood every female in Hollywood. I don't think that this is an accurate list. I think this is hey wouldn't it be cool of so and so played it. I don't think that these people were actually doing screens S. or anything like that. I think this is just somebody's wishlists. I think this is somebody called an agent. An agent might have said no or the agent passed it onto the actress and the actress said no awesome guy just sat around and said Hey. It'd be cool if someone play days it just. I can't imagine you would approach somebody like Kate. winslet with this at all. I can't either Robin Wright Penn then Catherine Zeta Jones none of these real Catherine Zeta Jones might make sense she done Zoro okay really part of the reason. Some of these didn't get it is drew through and Cameron went to MC. Gee said listen. We want these angels to be friends. We want to have a third actress who can be our friend not a third actress who will steal our boyfriend enter. Lucy Liu whatever they wanted someone like ugly that wasn't so not a girl power movie they. They just wanted someone. I guess they felt they had good chemistry with and so- Lucy Liu is brought in and that answers my question she was not the first pick because I couldn't imagine unless she andrew like hung out at after parties with alley mcbeal tapings I couldn't imagine how she got this Gig but she was cheap. She was cameron. Cameron Diaz got twelve million dollars for this movie. Drew Barrymore got nine million dollars although because she was a producer forty million yeah she got those points it's on the back end yeah eighty million for the sequel. Lucy Liu one million dollars which is still a lot of money for Lucy Liu. I got imagine like Bill Murray GonNa show up in this. He got paid more than Lou right. Yes although we're GONNA be talking about Bill Murray versus Lucy okay I mean but this cast does seem tailored third for now play or you specifically already. Tim Curry Sam Rockwell Crispin Glover like these are exciting names now playing well first of all. Sam Rockwell is chameleon. He deserve his Oscar. He finally got Oh. He's amazing. I agree yeah and I'm sorry you can't disrespect Crispin Glover. I'm not disrespecting. I'm just saying no podcast. Didn't I don't know maybe there's a crispin glover fan podcast but no podcast gets more excited for gover the now play. Let's finish the rest of this Phil. I interviewed mute. Him and he was interesting very nice when met him in person but I agree. This is a cast of character actors that I do love I wanted that's a look up Sam Rockwell because I tried to figure out when did Sam Rockwell Become Sam Rockwell teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. Always Been Sam Rockwell. You know what I'm saying although yes but does have a name that is just fit for a movie starring. Sam Rockwell sounds like fifty star but I looked him him up and he would done a lot of different roles but I do think this was one of his first bigger roles even by the time he was doing ironman too I don't I don't think he was a huge star. He was just somebody that I guess I was a fan of the year before this he had I think two memorable roles he was guy in Galaxy lexi quest he was also one of the prison guards in the Green Mile will eventually get to that film. I don't remember him in that okay. I think that Sam Rockwell L. was always the bridesmaid. In a lot of movies or other people gave stellar performances and I'm not talking about iron man to or cowboys and aliens. I'm just saying that he's always in the background impose really great character and it wasn't until he had the right vehicle where people knew who he was when he showed up in vice as George W Bush for like two minute's like I don't even know if it's that long he's amazing. He was the best part of that movie. Choke not a great movie but he's great in it. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy again not a great movie. He's great deals seem to me. Here's a great movie that he's Great in. Everybody should see three billboards outside ebbing Missouri. Yes that's what he won the Oscar for and every one of his performances are as good as three boards though he was nominated the year after for his role in vice whereas two minutes is George W Bush. That's how great he is yeah. I I mean he is an amazing actor and then Yeah Tim Curry always a fun presence when he showed up. I mean admittedly what I could most recently remember him. From before. This movie was Mikhail's navy. He made the film watch but then there are some really like to thousands choices here like Matt. LEBLANC IS GONNA show up Yeah Aubrey. I haven't thought about Tom Green since the year two thousand Tom Green was sleeping with the producer. Yeah I get that literally in this movie he's sleeping with her and I guess in real life. Do they were married for a few months after this film that's right remember. When Tom Green was a thing that was so brief I remember he had the Tom Green. Show on MTV. Here's the number one hit on MTV with that but song and then he had Freddy got fingered and road trip and this I still haven't seen Freddy got got fingered I either it's the worst movie ever or a genius piece of subversive depending on who you talk to. I'm going to say yes to that. The both yes. That's my feeling on it. Yeah still to this day every once in a while. Well like bust out one line from it. Daddy wants them sausage so so why Charlie's angels in the year two thousand I associate around the ninety S and we're getting the Brady bunch movie the Beverly Hillbillies redacting adopting TV so was it just a matter of time until we got to this property yeah. I definitely think that's part of it is TV was coming around again. We had beverly hillbillies and Brady. Bunch was a mild hit. That got a sequel right. There was some kind of hit yes sequel was not very good. The first one was really good and I wouldn't say a mild hit. I think that was like the one that ushered in a lot of this issue the comedies they even make a joke in this they we're going to have a fake. TJ Hooker the movie off a flight and be like another movie from an old TV show. They acknowledge what they're doing here but I I also think it was just kind of the time if you think back to the late nineties early two thousands the popular women's images in media related Brittany Brittany Spears in the schoolgirl dress Christina Aguilera. Rub Me the right way genie in a bottle I mean that was dominating media and Drew Barrymore. I had a vision she wanted to bring the angels back in the same spirit of the TV show. She didn't WanNa make it hard nosed action. She didn't want to try to be serious. Yes she wanted a fun. escapist jiggle fest and no matter what you can say about this film and we will. I think she achieved her goal. Yeah I'll just say I am shocked at the number of ass shots in the film look. I don't think they have great asses the only one with an asset drew barrymore if you want this. MINNEA- shots they're gonNA play. White Baby. Got Back get back. I think they played baby. Got Back Ironically though why I got questions about that scene but we'll get there well already. Why don't we see if we can answer some of the questions for Jake about asses and want you give us a plot summary. You calling me an ass. He's calling you at an ASS expert. If you're an answer my questions Charlie's angels are three smart tough bad ass sexy women Natalie Cook played by Cameron Diaz Dylan Sanders played by Drew Barrymore and Alex Munro played by Lucy Liu. They were brought together by the faceless Charlie Townsend to work for him as private is managed by John Bosley played by Bill Murray. They're hired by Kelly Lynch's character. Vivian would vivians business. Partner is software genius. Eric Knox played by Sam Rockwell Knox's gone missing possibly kidnapped by business rival rival Roger Corwin played by Tim Curry Vivian hires the angels to Find Knox going undercover the angels are attacked by a creepy thin guy with a hair fetish play Crispin Glover he leads the angels to Knox who was kidnapped possibly by Corwin so the angels hack core with system to see if he stole knocks voice recognition software but this was all a ruse knocks believes his father was killed by Charlie during the Vietnam War he used the angels so he could take control of Charlie satellite system which combined signed with Knox's voice recognition software could trace Charlie to any location Knox was partnered with Vivian and the thin man they kill Corwin and try to kill all the angels Joel's even Dylan who knocks just bedded they kidnap not kill Bosley to use his laptop to control four wins satellites the angels infiltrate Knox's Oxes Base Natalie rescues Bosley and Fights Vivian Alex Fights and beats the thin man and Dylan serves as a distraction but then kicks a bunch of henchmen ass knocks escapes the helicopter ready to fire a heat-seeking missile at Charlie but the angels catch up by boat and rewire the missile to kill knocks mission accomplished the girls sit on a beach with a recovering recovering Bosley and is congratulated by Charlie as credits roll and before credit start. We get a cold opening starring someone I he did not remember in this movie at all. Ll Cool J. Yeah. I don't remember a whole lot about this film. Remember Crispin Glover. He's GonNa drive a race car and there's a scene that I remembered because of my mom's reaction we saw this but one thing I do remember is this really did feel like a mission. Impossible parody will get the whole scene going into the server server room and all that so as soon as L. Cool Janet. Remember him being here. I'm like okay. That's one of the angels in a mass yeah. I just remember that mission impossible by on this film it had the same Makeup Cup guide to. I think there was some fun playfulness with those masks off the Tom Cruise film and it might have been reinforced by the fact that they lost their actress attending Newton mission impossible to yeah. We're GONNA find out that. Ll Cool J. is really one of the angels and what this guy's got. A bomb strapped to them so they got to get him out of the plane but if feels like there's way more effort at times. I we'll talk about some of the green screen in this but at times feels like make g's working real hard to do something really scorsese up this film. We'll get this opening shot following. Ll Cool J. around the plane and it's like a single. Take and you're seeing like you know all these little. I guess maybe funny funny moments going on on the side like a couple of the bathroom and the joined the Mile Club but putting way more effort than I would expect to see Charlie's angels film. It's cool that they do that. Single shot out of the plane they jump out of the plane. They still having cut presumably. There's actually two cuts did a breakdown of this on the DVD. There's a couple couple of camera tricks but it does make it look like a complete shot that was mccheese vision his first film yeah. He's GonNa have delusions of Scorsese. I guess at the beginning if they really did that that plane crash with the jump out the window yeah well. They opened the door. You don't open the door. midflight people get sucked out anything that wasn't like strapped strapped in. We get sucked out and it would probably create a fluid hammer. This is a fun opening. I mean L. O. J. Jumping out of a plane and then somebody else jumping out of a helicopter. You come down to Cameron Diaz in a tiny bikini on speedboats in front of a blue screen. It is the worst blues creed and at the end. They're going to be on the beach. I'm going to see him run into the ocean. I'm like Nice. Don't think Greenspan. I pay are not really on the beach. It looks so bad at times even when they're in real locations and is that intentional because when we watched the pilot last week some of the set backdrops were real bad oh yeah there's obviously painted backdrops in that pilot episode like embarrassingly looking baited sets so I wonder is this green screen stuff. That just didn't translate well video or is this intentionally the fake looking because they wanted to bring some of that humor of the original show. I mean this is a first time director TV property yeah I mean. I bet it was a hard. It sell it to say well. I need the tits to Jiggle in front of this screen. This was almost one hundred million dollar production really yeah wow okay so they. I had the money now I already put what twenty five million dollars of it towards salaries of actresses yeah that's where it seems most of it when but yeah we get this cold the open it reminds me of James. Bond films because this bomb never matters is just to show us these women kick some ass and save the day but you know what should matter sadder that mask. You don't bring this mission impossible style mask. You don't introduce that even the cold open to not bring it back at some point. I was shocked that they never wear a mask. Ask again to fool someone the one place they could have used it now that you're bringing it up. It's never bothered me but when they break into the place and Cameron Diaz and Drew Barrymore pretending to be men with some obvious. It's PAT facial hair. YES NASCAR would've been more believable for that than what they had going on but it's never bothered there'd be because this is called. Opening does have very little to do with what comes later I agree. It's just weird like that movie logic. Though you introduce a mask in the first act you gotta to bring that back and especially because they are going to do so much mission impossible stuff. Is there really a place where no it's just a gag. I guess at the beginning that this big black man is really dylan. Drew Barrymore little white girl more important to me than the mask is the stilts that had to have been involved for that wash bodysuit. He's a big guy like look. I got a lot complaints about the wire at work and the green screen but I'll give him drew barrymore could be. Ll Cool J. my question. Is this a parody. Is this a parody of mission impossible and the action films of the dime the wire food that was becoming popular and the John Woo style. Do we judge this as an action filmed. The tagline was get some action or is this just supposed to be a comedy of fun comedy where taking it seriously and wondering about. Chekhov's mask is over analyzing yeah. I would never say to take this film seriously. I don't think the film wants the audience to do that. Do think this is more. It's an action comedy. I we'll be talking about Jackie. Chan later with rush hour for platinum level donors but I do feel like you watch Jackie Chan like his best Hong Kong films. They are comedies like you think think of it as doing crazy stunts and Phuc but they're action comedies. You're supposed to laugh a lot of the time. Adam and I feel this movie is working in that same realm where it's supposed to be more funny me than adrenaline charging but I think the Adrenalin is there when they jump out of the window and Motley crews livewire starts playing there really the bringing in a lot of heavy metal glam metal dance music fast paced UPTEMPO stuff to get your adrenaline going yeah. We're going to get project. Smack your bitch up. I'm like wow that's taking me back to the turn of the millennium but so much of this music just because we're talking about it like it does feel like they had a database database of songs and they just type in keyword angel at Angel in the title. They probably used it in this of course. Why wouldn't you do it repeatedly repeatedly when prodigy does come on. I'm like wait. This doesn't have the word angel in it. I'm shocked. They're easy song. Wake me up before you go. I love rock and roll. I want money I I did. They're kind of building off. What Drew Barrymore had with the wedding singer. Aren't they going back to a lot of eighties hits. Yeah we're GONNA get Barracuda and this it's all over the place at from this cold hold open we then have the TV opening with Charlie giving his monologue of three bright talented young women and we get to see how different they Dr Drew Barrymore was a punk rebel with a broken arm smoking in the bathroom and flipping off the camera and Cameron Diaz was adore with braces who drove onto wheels than one a bunch of money on jeopardy and Lucy Liu. I can't figure out she's an equestrian astronauts. She's rich. Yes she was. She's a rich spoiled pampered person. Yeah and I'm thinking specialties like each girl's. GotTa have her specialty. I'm kind of thinking. This is telling me okay the stunt driver. I Dunno someone that's good with horses and a rebel. They don't really go into specialty territory here which is weird because Alex Lucy lose characters. It seems to be the computer demo expert. She's the one cut and all the wires and acting. I think that they have specialties. That just aren't all that well defined they. They all can fight. They all can go undercover. They can all showoff their bodies to distract the enemy men but I do think Alex is more. The techie and Natalie is more driver and Drew Barrymore is maybe it's because she's the producer but I kind of feel she's the leader to she's the one planning the ops yeah and I also thought she was more into the different logistics of things to you know. She's also the tomboy though we'll see them. Go to a drive drive-thru. She'll be like three burgers three five three shakes. What do you want you know. I think she's supposed to have that kind of energy. Whatever woman you like whatever fetish you have above one of these three should fit yeah blonde. Brunette redhead White Cameron Diaz Hispanics. You've got that last name. She's actually Cuban okay Latin. I'll put it that way Asian yeah. It's got it all like leather core sets US everything but I do wonder about Dylan's story arc in this like we'll see Natalie Adderley. She's dreaming of being a dancer and she's really kind of a Klutz in real life and Alex has issues with her boyfriend Matt. Leblanc is a struggling actor. I guess you'll always play Joey a struggling actor and she's having a hard time like revealing who she really is. I don't really know Dylan. Story ARC is here like she sleeps with Sam Rockwell Rockwell. We get a little bit more her backstory in part two and I got the feeling like she just didn't get one either. Drew wanted to focus on the others or they're saving something back. I didn't know if they knew they were getting a sequel but we do get more of hers in the Second One. You have blown my mind that you remember the second one I do not. I'm like what what I've never seen the second. What do you guys want to know about it I can. I haven't even seen it recently. I it's probably been US sometime. This year comes to Charlie's. Angels recent is much different. We measurement for Marjorie. It's a matter of weeks. I think the ARC is very vague but it has something to do with Tom. Green or as he calls himself here the Chad Chad which would be so in the news. We would be when this movie came out about three weeks before a hanging. Chad was all over the news. I was wondering Yeah Weird this lined up with the has this election joke but I guess it was right before that spoiler. I think there are divorced by the time the second one came out and there's no Chad in the second one just just like there'd be no. Tom Green career in three years but at the beginning she's like makeup smeared waking up in the chads boats and he's like was it the food was a at the was it the Chad and I think it might be the checks. He keeps calling her starfish and she goes yeah. It was the Chad later on going to say the Chad is wonderful after sleeping with Knox and realizing she's attracted to the wrong guy. Maybe maybe okay maybe she realizing she used to settle down with a nice guy who cooks her breakfast not the kind of hot guy who shoots her out a window but none of them have arc's per se the character development here seems to be around them much like the TV series you're supposed to. I think be able to come in in part to and not have a lot of questions about part one John. I mean Cameron. Diaz loves to dance around her apartment and boy pants in the first scene and loves to dance in front of People Midway through the movie. Let me ask you a question about that scene because yes. She's dancing around in her underwear. She dreams about being a seventies. Do the Hustle Type Dancer Weird. I think she just wants to be in big dance numbers. I mean she did that in the mass. She had a big swing number but maybe she's pining for those dish. She's a dancer that's right. She is a dancer in that one. She's a dancer in real life. I think that helps with a lot of the wires yeah yeah. She's a dance. She's a train dancer. Okay I was not aware that this film when it comes to its level of Julius or sexiness and I feel like it's going to really work for thirteen year old boy or thirteen year old girl who's into girls. I don't want to exclude anyone in this day and age. It worked very well for certain twenty five year old boy. Okay okay see that working for a twenty year old. I just watching it now. I'm like when I think about and look these are just weird false memories. I have with the original. Charlie's angels talked about it. Last time I watched that pilot and I watched a couple episodes. When I was a kid but my impression it was just had a little bit more sophistication sophisticated Decatur sexiness and this is like hey stick something in my slot anytime and it's like this is the kind of humor we're doing. This was like a really weird time where we had. There's something about Mary which I think brought women into acceptable body humor and this was an extension of that just happened to be Cameron Diaz but it was this time period period where it was like oh it's okay girls can make Dick Jokes and still be funny and cute and sexy and that's where it gets with hers because she's body. She's allegedly sexy and she's completely oblivious to saying things like that. She's supposed to be the dumb one also in this yeah no. I get that like she doesn't realize she's making these sexual innuendo. She's not dumb per se because she won jeopardy and she is described as brilliant by Charlie in the opening but she's dumb. She's the blonde when it comes to men. She's not articulate. Yes she's unaware that she's turning men on and she's unaware of what to do when she finds a guy and wants turn him on. She does not know how to use her sexiness as well as the other two whereas Lucy Liu apparently knows how to use her sexiness but doesn't know how to use her oven. As the've repeated joke here is that she can't cook to the point where she's going to be making a souffle and my wife is just like when's it. GonNa Fall into the joke but yeah she's making rock-hard. Muffins like we see this muffing toss through a wall and she's disappointed. People won't eat them. Have a little self awareness like if you're muffin is going through drywall. You should be eating eating that and that's what I'm saying like okay. These are jokes but they're not very sophisticated. They're aiming very young. It feels like Oh there's not sophisticated humor or anything in this movie absolutely not I think a lot of the humor comes from bringing in a comedic actor while all of our actresses have done comedy before they've also done some drama and things things but bringing in Bill Murray here who is known for his comedy to me. He's the biggest star in this film. I mean Cameron. Diaz has made a lot of money but she she was an up and comer drew barrymore had been famous than wasn't and was coming back. We've already discussed Lucy Liu but bill. Murray is a huge star to play Bosco awesome yeah. I don't know where he was at this point in his career. I hear now. He just has a phone line and you have to know a secret number to call him. If you want them to do a role that has always been the case. They didn't even know if he was. GonNa show up on stripes. Oh really okay. He's always been a Prima Donna then unreliable. He'll say he'll do your movie but leave you hanging and when you start filming you're just crossing your fingers. He's GonNa the show up. That's hilarious. That was the case here too. They like had somebody else in the wings in case Murray didn't show up to play Bosley. Who Do you hire it as has the standby for Bill Murray in case he doesn't show up Joel Murray Brian Doyle Murray now. I can't remember who they had but I do remember Mickey discussing sweating sweating it out at this time and he was doing a bit more posh films rushmore had come out by this point and that was seen as a big career return for him. Yeah Rushmore was I think a big one and before that the last thing I think really paid attention to amend was ninety six kingpin the fairly brothers I know. Are you guys love that one. I do love that movie but it was after this. He gets more artsy next year. Royal Tenenbaums and then couple years later lost in translation he he gets tricked into doing Garfield but here I was most excited going into theaters to see him. Oh yeah he's always consistently gently good in everything he does a here. I kind of like his blase attitude. He's the one man in this movie who does not care how attractive or sexy or scantily clad these three women are. He's like a father figure yeah I do that. He plays it that way like we'll get the three girls and high charlie like they're doing doing that. Sex Appeal thing I guess that's actually straight from the TV series all the way angels every episode yeah. I know again it just when these three do it. It just sounds more valley girl to me than anything. It's their delivery but yeah. I like that Bill Murray's version of Bosley and then maybe it was like the TV show. I don't see Bosley hooking up with Arafat's at that actor that he's kind of aloof to like their looks and one thing you may not notice I didn't until I was seeing the bonus features. This is intended to be a continuation of the Charlie's angels TV series. Is that why no one has the same name because that confused me. I'm like okay which one is. Drew Barrymore supposed to be fair Faucet. I can't be camera. Di Yeah she doesn't have the hair. She barely has any here. Luke Wilson got more eerie this bill would they tell cameras to do hair flip. I'm like here to here but yeah none of them have the same name so this is the next generation yeah there's a photo behind Bosley of the original angels there and they even did this set to be just like Bosley office from the TV show with the thinking of Charlie sent down a decorator and said modernize it even still have a television that comes down from the ceiling the way that slide projector did in the pilot speaker box so they really look at this as continuing the story and that's why they get John forsythe eight back as the voice of Charlie giving them their mission just like he did week after week on the TV show and this mission seems pretty straightforward. We talked with that pilot. We weren't quite sure what the mission was note. This time Software Guy Eric Knox's missing the angels immediately think it's his business partner Vivian. No she's their client. She's worried about Eric and they think the bad guy is tim curry and why wouldn't Tim Curry. Be Your bad guy. I mean he was it it and he was the bad guy in Mikhail's navy. He kind of gotten a reputation for playing bad guy roles yeah. He plays a good slide all right. We'll see you at the beginning here. He's going to Madame Wong's to get some massages. Either Madame Wong's happy ending kind of place yes because that's what he alluded detail. Tim Curry's going there. Definitely I just confused why Madam Long Look. I don't want to get into stereotypes. That's probably a Chinese name and then we got Lucy Liu yelling Banzai which is a Japanese knees word or getting their cultures mixed up here good point. I didn't put that together. I don't think this film really cares about that. We'll see lots of cultural appropriation going on at Ed. Lucy Liu is American. I mean so she's a guest doing her culture no favors or just having fun with it but yes she dresses like a geisha to to give this massage but she's certainly not going to play to the Asian sexy stereotype he wants her hands on him as she's going to jump on his back and twister heels so that he passes out and I do like the Innuendo. I could use someone like you on my staff. My hands aren't going anywhere near your staff made me laugh. It's groner owner yeah. I feel like everything that should be sexy or titillating here. Just doesn't do anything for me. It skews a little too young. I think this all goes into. There's a fetish for everybody in this movie. I'm waiting for my fetish than to show up for me. Also I can be propelled by a great soundtrack. I'M GONNA put a capital g gray soundtrack because seeing all three of them dressed as geishas which is hysterical to see Whiter Than White Cameron Diaz and Drew Barrymore in that that garb while turning Japanese is playing. I know exactly what they're doing there. I'm having fun. Each song is something that's making me smile because us most of it is I haven't heard in a while now they are going to bring in some nineties dance pop later on but here it does seem like they're pulling deep cuts from the jukebox and through this. I'm not quite sure how it happens but they go from stealing a copy of core wins key eh to being in a car with the printer that prints and enhanced photo of Crispin Glover. I wish this felt more tongue in cheek than just lazy at times. I'm because they're like look. There's a reflection in the rear view mirror computer enhance. I'm just like really we're doing this. We're doing the computer. That's going to enhance the image that would be so pixelated plated but it's GonNa come out crystal clear. It's crispin. Glover reminded Arnie that when this movie came out it was a big F in deal that we'd have four megapixel camera uh-huh. I remember that when you can get up to four megapixel yeah almost photo quality but isn't this giving you what you want. Jacob you complained in the pilot that there weren't enough spy gadgets a car printer that can enhance pixelated yeah no. I don't mind like the car printer. It's just the enhanced computer enhance I go back to that. Blade runner seen gene that goes on for about fifteen minutes per keeps enhancing. I if this is just going to be mission impossible parody then that's fine not another mission impossible movie. I don't like like those kind of movies. If it's GonNa have some fun and a sense of style of its own but also you know poking fun at cruised it then I get on with that. I just feel like there's a very very inconsistent tone and style throughout Phil. I hate to agree because by cars on the table. I love this movie and so it's killing me to see its flaws but these kinds of movies. I expect there to be things oh come on. It's stupid fun if it wasn't skewing for such a young age the humor than I could get on board with it. There's plenty of times times where it's tongue in cheek. It's poking fun at the Genre Conventions Iky. Get on board with that. It's that this one feels like a mad magazine. Parody and I love mad magazine exist. I loved it when I was twelve though and I've tried reading a while. It's not around anymore but I tried reading it in my later years and it just never came off his funny. Yeah I mean I agree with you. On mad magazine Kazini Ear they go to this party core wins having and they take Bosley along as a self help guru who's rich enough to get into the Bardi. There are subplots in this this movie that I enjoy watching but yet narrative -Ly I don't see why they're why is Luke Wilson at this party as a bartender tender and we're going to see Cameron Diaz Smitten and then follow them on their first day to go nowhere yeah. I don't understand why this whole scene turns into into a Rom. com all the sudden with a joke about Bill Murray and Tim Curry putting on inflatable sumo wrestler suits. I think the Luke Wilson thing was there because they're trying to show you. They're still girls are still feminine. They still have their lives. Even though there are these worldwide spies and everything their shirts are always unzipped to their belly button. I'm well aware that they're women okay fair enough but yeah I agree. It's just each of them has a relationship story but we said that the characters I just don't have an arc but of the three it's Dylan's relationship. That's going to matter to their mission. I think what they're trying to say is that Dylan sleeps around. Yes okay. I think so too you and here we're just going to have scenes of Cameron Diaz with Luke Wilson. We mentioned that Natalie Cameron Diaz is the one who doesn't know how to use her sexuality. The women have to tell her to do the hair flip there and she makes a date with him but the sumo wrestling is again. What tells me this film is a comedy think about what Drew Barrymore had been primarily merrily making never been kissed the wedding singer pretty broad comedies which is fine to make this a comedy but is this a funny joke. They cut the less funny one before the sumo wrestler. The contest they had was a game of Marco Polo in a swimming pool where they splashed each other with water bill Murray and Tim Curry. Wow Okay Eh. I'm glad they're having fun on set. It did look like the actors enjoyed it but it also was pretty silly. No everyone is smiling. Throughout this film I think Mckee through a great party Casper and it is onscreen. I will not deny them that. Bill Murray you can't keep him to script. He's going to do his own thing. Tim Curry's able to keep up with them and yet the action does continue here lest. We have too many jokes before we get to the action. All of a sudden Natalie is going to see Crispin Crispin Glover smoking a cigarette with his hair looking like he walked right out of the fifties back to the future seen. Let's Kinda just what his hair looks like. Crispin Glover is great like the way he just stands when he's smoking a cigarette. Just let me watch him for ninety minutes. He is a fantastic villain because I think he takes the script and pisses on it and does whatever he wants. He doesn't say anything in this whole film right. That's his whole thing is. He got the part then went to. GM was like I don't want my character to talk. I WANNA cut all his lines. I want him to be recycle. Yes that he's like and I want them to have a hair fetish. I want them to rip women's hair and sniff it see I love all that stuff. Yeah Makes G. and Drew Barrymore anymore. We're both like go with it. Crispin just go with it and honestly I think he is one of the reasons. This movie is very memorable to me and this movie is one of the reasons I like Crispin Glover as much as I do is because he is so weird and he is so ironic and action star. I mean you would never expect to see crispin. Glover do wire wire Fu and flipping over fences. We're going to get a big chase and then they're going to face off the thin man I guess as he's called never gets a name either. No lines no name crepe piece in man yes. He's going to face off against the angels and we're we're going to get some wire Fu. I think he looks pretty good doing a and look. I don't want to blame any of the actors I think this is on the director making taking this wire. Fu Look good. Maybe that wasn't the point though maybe they wanted this to look like wire Fu but it's pretty amateur looking to me but it wasn't that kind of the style of fighting fighting yeah like Jackie Chan will use wires when I'm watching the scene. I'm like okay that was probably a wire but there's a way to sell it and these are actors who are not martial show artists. They probably spent a day training to do this choreography so they spent three months three months. Okay what doing this wire work. I kind of think the wires do all the work. I'm actually impressed with how much they still have to do. The wireless them up. Oh no you have to do a lot yeah. They still have to activate their core and be able to do flips on their own and things the wire just suspends them but they have to do a Lotta the moving and things and I think they do pretty well now. John Woo hates. It's this movie because he said there's no doves. There is a dove. I actually think they parody John. Woo later on during the car race. There is a dove. Oh that's right. There is there but he said that this movie had obvious wire work which made audiences laugh at wire work and unable to take it seriously yes. That's exactly it. This whole whole movie is responsible for that. This is coming after where I consider the American breakthrough of wire work the matrix. I think the Matrix looks better. I mean we had Crouching Tiger Hidden in Dragon. I think around this time that is known for it so I work because it just people flying around on the trees. There's a way to shoot it. There's a way to bring that physicality about and look these are not martial martial artists and Mickey. This is first thing not an action director. There's a way to go about doing this. I guess it's fine as possible but it is funny like I do laugh at this because it's not Napa Greatest Work Mick would go on to make the show chuck a show. I really enjoyed and it would employ the same kind of thing there where you have this nerdy guy who would would go onto places. Am Zachary Levi and he would be doing wire work and all of these stunts but constantly he had this look on his face of. Oh my God I'm able to do this and it was supposed to be silly here. I think it's along that same vein supposed to be a bit of a joke that these women who have seen so far to be very feminine imminent they all have their relationships one of them's trying to bake their flirting with guys. This is our first time seeing that they can kick ass and I think it is supposed to be highly stylized dialyzers. I think this is what he intended to do now. Whether you wanted what he gave you is the second question yeah. It does not engage me on an action level. All all say that because I feel it's like a little part and like Cameron Diaz I know I'm hating on her la but like every time she stops to do this pose at so exaggerated on my they had to have like a series series of Bruce Lee poses and she'd pick once. You've got those like legs spread apart doing these stance it it just it feels a bit to pose a bit too on the nose like music at times. I enjoy watching the choreography again. I'm going to just admit my bias. The music's carrying me a lot. It feels well choreographed. You're grafted feels flu. Yes smack your bitch up. I like that song so despite the wire work it's got crispin. Glover has got the G so I'm going with it. Crispin Glover with a cane sword. Thank you saving the scene for me. He is really an underrated actor and I think he gets a bad rap a lot. We were like ooh weird weird guy but that's what makes him fabulous yeah. No I agree but we're at the end of Act One somehow the thin guy lead them to a locked door and behind it was Eric Knox Knox all tied up and they wonder did corwin steal his software so we're going to put on half buttoned race car outfits show off offer cleavage liquor steering wheel. Thank you so gross when they find Eric Knox doesn't that give the whole plot away again. I don't I've seen this but I don't remember much of that and was soon as they found Sam Rockwell Mike Okay so he's the bad guy and he setting the angels up to get this from. Tim Curry's character Corwin. It just tells me everything oh it blew my mind that plot Rubio in the theater. I was like Whoa I couldn't believe that they twisted it because I was so convinced. Tim Curry was the bad guy. Tim Curry's always the bad guy. Jim Carey's a great bad guy. They've been investigating for so long. I was convinced insist that it was going to be him all along. I guess I wasn't thinking about it very critically. I mean I'll be honest when Drew Barrymore is sitting in that car with the air conditioning blowing honor. I'm not really thinking I'm just enjoying yeah. Somehow they get on a pit crew like that seems like it'd be very hard to do than they have their hair down. Put that stuff up. You're going to get cotton. Cotonou spoke. That's an Osha hazard there. They all got their jumpsuits unzipped to their navels. I'm surprised they didn't fall out when she's in that scene with talking to the Bentley driver. There had to be tape right. There just had to be yes. That's how you keep that the way it is and there's these little invisible adhesive things that you put underneath your boobs to keep them up. It's it's like an invisible bra and then you have the fabric tape to keep it there so you just like give a peak of it. This is why we needed a woman on the show. Is it wrong that I like it when she likes the steering wheel. It's Kinda. It is Kinda Gross. It's gross. I just like the drivers not even do. He wipes that thing off because it's Corwin car. He's afraid of getting fired right but yeah. They plant a camera with car again. Not entirely sure how that helps the plot but we get another action scene here. Everytime Crispin Glover shows is up. It's my favorite scene in the movie. Here shows up. He's got the red hair because he ripped some off of Dylan earlier. He's rubbing it all over himself. uh-huh yeah. I would've never thought I'd see Crispin. Glover you know I expect him to be some creepy. Weirdo and with rats and Willard or whatever but to see Crispin Crispin Glover race car that does not seem like it is wheelhouse but yes pun intended but apparently it is it was very much an all around just kinda henchman you you know he could do many different things but again suspend reality. Just enjoy the movie. Oh No. I'm all for like whatever Crispin Glover wants to do. Let him do it. Yes yes. I love the lane patriotism. That Natalie is chasing him in an American flag formula. One racing car. I mean remember number. This is pre nine eleven freedom fries America yet just this all American Cuban girl chasing after the car with the Red Star on it. US versus Russia's certainly implied and like the editing they're where they go past the cars and cars passing but it's his car her car his car her car it again kind of fun and Yeah I think this is one of the better shot action scenes this car chase and this is where the dove comes in they face off on the bridge and the dove of flying away seems to be their moment to realize they need to play chicken at first. I thought I'm like Oh well the thin man he's dead right like he fell off that there's no way but he's GonNa come back like I guess it's just to get him out of the scene. It shows a victory and it makes you wonder if he's dead. When he comes back. It's supposed to be unshockable a shock but you think they lost their their lead here but they found out enough that they have to go undercover. They have to break into Red Star. Tim Curry's company to do that. They have to get a fingerprint and a retinal scan leading to one of the most head-scratching fun scenes. I've just laughing because it's ridiculous. Yeah I get the angels being belly dancers. I that's fine but the angels including Lucy Liu as these little German girls singing well Bosley there the fake moustache to again what they're going for. It's just not obviously it's not working for me at supposed to be silly. It's supposed to be sacked. See it just mostly silly to me. This is where it just yells out. Loud that we're GONNA GONNA do mission impossible like we're GONNA break in to get the NOC list. We're GONNA make it even more ridiculous. They gotta get out the ice scan and the fingerprints and if you stand on the ground more than a a quarter of a second you set off the alarm yeah something about you have to be invisible going through one room this. I remember chuckling at when I saw it in theaters because yes it is so over the top and I still think it works if you know especially that first mission impossible movie because that's what the riffing on I think this is a pretty good job. Well even have Vivian say when she hears this whole plot like that's impossible. Nothing's impossible if you put Lucy Liu and a dominatrix outfit in a room full of Geek programmers who want Free Co.. Oh apparently and apparently Melissa McCarthy has always played the same role like I saw her name in the opening credits. I'm like Oh this is before. She was anyone like if he wasn't on. SNL In two thousand I don't believe you guys would know better than me but she wasn't actually I told Arnie shoes in this movie and he didn't believe me until the scene and I might watch wait and see and it is Melissa. Listen McCarthy Melissa McCarthy thing. This is what she does absolutely although I think she was also attracted to Alex in that dress by the end of it. She starts by calling her a pitch at the end. She's following Alex around with all the guys. I think we're supposed to see these. Angels can seduce everybody anyone yeah maybe there yet. This is new to me but maybe we'll we'll get there by the end they do get into the room. We get to see not Cameron Diaz. Do some backflips puts on that white suit. I'm like that actress has a but all of a sudden unhappy cameras. Ah I'm sorry you can't touch it for more than a quarter of a second. Don't do handspring's like you got to balance yourself and put your weight in the push off like just just run really fast across it like do big leaps. It wouldn't be as impressive though you are right. It just comes off kind of silly yeah yeah it does when I think about it. I'm just not supposed was to think about it. I know you do not think during this bill what I find funny like they got a hack into the server because Red Star has voiced. DNA like you could identify edify anyone with just their voice. That's Knox's software that they wonder if Red Star has stolen but Knox did this voice. DNA that's unable to be faked. Knox made the software. I Guess Red Star has the satellite so they could actually use it. Yes that's exactly what happened so okay. They needed access. It was all ruse to get the angels they could get access to Red Star. Oh I know because the winds they say voiced. I'm like Oh. They want to find Charlie yeah. Here's where I should would have caught it though because Knox Vivian are together again they're like Oh. We want access to the system. Oh that would be unethical. Only Bosley has access to the system. Well Guess Bosley skating kidnap now. You wonder how many days Bill Murray was on the set with Lucy Liu but he doesn't have a huge part here but we get this interlude where they've gone undercover. I call this section where they go under the covers. It's all about their dating. We just stopped the plot and and we're GONNA see Natalie. Go out with Pete and I didn't even know soul train was still on. Is it still on now. I don't think so and I get that they want females on the stage dance but she's the only one and she's white. I associate soul train. More with African Americans like I'm thinking back to when I was a kid I didn't watch that it was not a whole lot of white people now and it ended in two thousand six all right so it was going on at this time but that's the Joke Jacob is that I love it when she gets up there here. She has no ass. She's dancing to baby got back. The irony is dripping and in her mind everybody is enjoying it but then you get to see the third heard personnel cut where just see all of the African Americans. The music has stopped and they're all staring like what is she it. Doing that is my question. What is the joke here that she's a white girl dancing on soul train that she someone with no but dancing to baby got back. I thought the joke going to cut away and she's dancing like Elaine. Benes on Seinfeld should keeps dancing the way she's dancing and then they get into it. I don't even know what the joke is. A joke joke is and it's not really a joke. It's that she's likable. She's lovable. She likes to have fun. She has no shame she's having the best time of her life and wins everyone else over which which is. I think we're supposed to get out of the character because she's goofy. She does lack self awareness. That's what we see in every single scene whether she's answering for the ups driver in underwear underwear or dancing on soul train she lack self awareness but she's so pure that nobody's going to judge her for they're. GonNa Start Chanting. Go white a girl go white girl. She's lovable allegedly and then the scene that is less impactful is Alex baking the souffle getting ready to tell Jason that she is a spy revealed her true identity that she is not a sexy bikini wax. Yeah you get the scene where at at the same time they're all with their men. They're also having assassinations attempts. Put onto them and some guys are. GonNa drive up to that trailer how they know she's there. I don't know but they shoot it up and she does that move where she spreads her legs and arms out so she could stick to the ceiling and not get shot. They try to fake us out because we see the scene scene with Jason with a woman at a table having a conversation and then somebody does a drive by shooting and the woman dies and Jason Screams up to the sky like Wolverine No once he does that you know it's a movie set guarantee you if they were GonNa Shoot Lucy Liu in this movie you would see her face la banks but they they wanNA fake us out and here's my problem okay. We're GONNA shoot up the trailer and the souffles GonNa fall and then the trailer is GonNa. Fall in have nothing seems fresher. I get that that they're going for this humor this cheeky tone but it just feels like jokes from the seventies like. I don't know what's fresh grasp onto with this film to me what was fresh. Although spoiler alert for the movie scream scream did do this I but I was very shocked that we find out. Knox is a bad a guy because they're going to have romance there and it shocked me when they did it in scream. It shocked me when they did it here that the woman slept with the guy who was evil and it was. It's all a false pretense thing well. She's got to sleep with them because we got more data dump to go. Regatta Expand Knox's motivation a little bit more something about his dad being shot in a war four and in a photo. You can't see his dad's partners face who supposedly shot him. I'm like well okay. Obviously it's Charlie because we're not showing the face yeah I figured that one out to even even the first time because of the face but says he worked military intelligence and he was killed by someone there yet here pretty much if you're thinking thinking about it. You know what's really going to happen before. Vivian even shows up Vivian had been off seducing Bosley. I mean even Bosley getting some play which I think is. It's funny. You have vivians trying to Bosley like something about a glow in the dark dress. I don't maybe that's a fetish. Maybe that's sexy. I don't know I don't WanNa see a glow in the dark address. That'd be weird just a floating towards to me. I think she's fulfilling the milk Fetish but Bill Murray like guilt at this point. I get that but I'm saying if you WANNA see a sexy. The older woman versus the sexy stars of the film but she shows up and knocks. I Love Rockwell in this film because his acting there her he just transforms from nerdy programmer to completely cool suave bad guy whenever rockwell does a little dance. I'm like that's movie. Ever I mean to the Marvin Gaye Song. It is perfect him crispin. Glover make this movie. This is the best scenes I think ever in a movie where he just does his dance. He puts on jacket. The right music plan the way he takes that drag off the cigarette. There's just I mean and yeah he does. The splits the character turn turn and his performance wowed me. I'm GonNa say wowed me as much as any cleavage when I saw this film in two thousand and then the thin man just comes comes out of nowhere to they're all in on it together or they watching them or something because they've obviously had sex because drew's going to walk out with the most elaborate averitt bedsheet. Moga tie up like well. That's basically just like address. At this point. You can't do that with the sheet and she's the one who we think actually gets it. We see that at the same time. Natalie is attacked in the bathroom at soul train as she fights him off and puts boot to his neck and he says Vivian told him to do it and Alex you said she hidden the roof and escaped the bullets but Natalie gets shot and falls out that window will this scene I remember because in the theater not when she gets shot but like when we see our hang in there naked my mom just lost control laughing like where she almost fell out of her seat zt embarrassing she was laughing so loud like the whole time drew's hanging there and then falls down and rose down the hill and then grabs the inflatable pool toys to cover for upper naughty bits to go talk to those boys playing like my mom lost it so whatever I think of this film. I'll always have good memories because it brought my mom just some incredible joy for the scene and a bit of Trivia the house she goes up to where the two boys are playing video games and having the perfect conversation for this movie. I've seen a lot of boobs have I have not have to that is the same house where they shot E. T. as so they put an et poster up on the wall so you have drew barrymore knocking on the House that she acted in as a little girl only now. She's all grown up naked. That's fun gag and in case anybody thinks Marjorie and I were talking when we watched this movie is that Tony Stark's house that is the Hollywood hills yeah well. If you take a Hollywood bus tour. There is a house that the point at you and say it's the Tony Stark House or they'll. I'll say it's the house that Sam Rockwell used in Charlie's angels. Neither of those houses are real. I hate to shatter illusion. Those are all. CGI houses man. There's a house similar similar in the Hollywood hills that inspired both of these yeah. There's a famous house like that that I've seen so I just assumed they I'm sure it's rented out all the time for movies so I assumed assumed it was that yeah. It's probably cheaper just build. CGI If we're going to have people fall out of it. Is it a cheat that they rewind the film and do it. I mean and isn't that what they did. In Funny Games yeah and Funny Games they just like straight up talked to the audience and rewind the movie this. It's just a stylish way again. Majia may because he's a first time director. We're going to take some Scorsese. We're just gonNA pull from everyone that he likes and do a lot of weird mishmash styles and this is one of them like let's go back and see how she's actually still alive and get some bullet time straight out of the Matrix including the shot of the bullet rippling the air around it as it travels towards her. Are we see she falls out the window but his hanging there. Nobody bothers to look for a body. Yes she falls down naked in your mother loses control uh-huh and the three women reunite at the agency it blows up to that same agency that had been in Houston seventy six. It's gone John but Bosley is just captured. The three women needs a knuckle up and go save the day and who do they need. They need the Chad because it needs boat. They're totally using I boat yeah. They need a boat but they can't use a speedboat because they gotta be undercover or something yeah. It doesn't make any sense 'cause speedboat would get there too fast. Whereas a big tugboat? Oh were they say they have to go and California is a six hour drive on land from La taking a boat boats unless you gotta speedboat not going. It's fast as a car but I guess time is not of the essence here no but this is where the whole plot is killed. Charlie Avenge Knox's Dad. I don't know how how much he spent to get Vivien onboard with this other. We're finding out Vivian is sleeping with him and the thin man he never speaks. We never know his motivation. He is just like odd Ajab from bond and we get in there and they break in. We get the showdowns. Alex goes to the roof to try to stop the transmission from the call from Charlie but she fails because she's attacked by the thin man and Dylan is I guess red herring because she allows herself to be captured and Knox reveals feels is evil plan before leaving her with Henchman Natalie's off to save Bosley and fight Vivian but she's a call from Pete and wants to see you're supposed to like we really excited. It's funny. It's fun to see in the middle of this. She considers Pete as important as rescuing Bosley and saving Charlie's life as she is the smart mart one. She's the one who knew the bird. She heard over the call from Bosley that tells them where they are. Yes and again another body because it was a nut hatch supposed to be funny. She got excited about a nut hatch because it's not yeah. I didn't even get that as funny truth is that's not a pygmy not hatchets at different kinds of bird out well. Now we know who the real bird watcher is. It wasn't a Bosley in that pilot film. It's Arnie to ever wrote the IMDB Trivia during all this action at the end. You know we got the three girls. They each have their action piece the one that gets me excited. I'll say I got titillated. A little bit is we got drew Barrymore Four. She's tied to that share you know she's got her legs spread out. She's been able to get those free. She got them spread out to hold the guys back then. She's like okay. I'm going to tell you exactly how this is going to go down on. I'm gonNA break your nose and do this and do that and then I'm gonNA moon walk out of here and then again. Not The greatest kung-fu wire work here but it's passable but the fact that she said she's GonNa Moon well yeah. She just walks backwards suck you. Maybe you can find someone that could moonwalk and just cut to their feet. This is awful. I could could not forgive the film for this. I think it's her shoes. I think the boot she's wearing you cannot moonwalk in as she just does this backward dance but yes it bothered me in theaters like like that ain't no moonwalk so upset about it the other thing. I find extremely annoying besides that Moonwalk is we're told that knocks has voiced. DNA So he's tracking Charlie. He's you know they got him on the phone. I again love. Sam Rockwell like Bosley not now still waiting all along long like he's sitting there 'cause they gotta track this call and Trace Charlie's voice to me voice. DNA means on the screen Okay Charlie. Is this person no it's. It's just going through the satellite system. It's just a phone trace basically and finding where the phone location is. I'm thinking which is a problem during this movie but Ah what this means is he is now got Charlie's. DNA and while he's tracing his current location if Charlie were to move that'd be able to use that DNA to track the satellite wherever he is without having him on a direct call be a here. You don't need voice. DNA when somebody calls up I'm Charlie okay hold on Charlie. I'm tracing the call. I mean I've I've seen that in a lot of police movies. They've never need voice. DNA software but it's a step away from what Nolan would do with the dark knight many steps but yes Steph is involved with a lot of other ones and what happens with Vivian and the thin man. We don't see them again. They are beaten by the angels and fall down at the castle and then knocks comes up and fires a missile right there. The angels live and we never see the others again. Okay that's why it's this movie so. Add because Z. Sam Rockwell show up in a helicopter with missiles. I don't look maybe Mark Zuckerberg. has this kind of military hardware because he's a super-rich tech guy. I don't know it seems kind of specialized but we'll see SAM. Rockwell's character shoot a missile and it's left ambiguous. They don't close the loop on that. I can't imagine Vivian whatever come back back but I guess they do. Wonder Maybe Crispin Glover was so good they might WanNa. Bring him back for something. Why wouldn't you because he is good and this gets us to the action shouldn't packed climax of the helicopter boat chase well. Maybe the action pack rescreen. It's taken me back to the beginning this film I tell when there's men with wigs hanging it on a cop trucks and Lucy Liu and drew barrymore in front of a green screen yeah. It was pretty bad in this and you know. I'd like to think that today. CGI would would really improve it but it's probably not going to. I feel like this is what he was going for MC. Gee I look when Tarantino does this kind of thing like pulp fiction with Bruce Willis in the back of that taxi and it's obviously rear screen projection like he's going for vibe doing bad green screen. That vibe going for now is an aesthetic. We're all pining for now to feel like we're back in the day for me. The best ending of this film comes in the tower fight where the bell falls in almost hits Vivian and thin man the thin man's my favorite villain so that's going to be my favorite fight yeah when the angels get on the Green Screen speedboat and Lucy lose scream and I'm GonNa win the Teddy Bear while shooting an Arrow to create eight some kind of rope. They can scale up to the helicopter. You know the movie has a benefit. It is only about ninety minutes long so it does not wear out. Its welcome but here at the end. I'm ready for the end. I just wanted to say that you said that line with as much conviction as Lucy Liu did a pretty good impression it was it was pretty good. Yeah it gets an arduous when they got to the Bell Tower or whatever you WanNa call that thing and then afterwards within rerouting the missile. That's the point point where gets a little long. I think because it's short on the comedy yeah it's Drew Carey Wore Punching Sam Rockwell while Lucy Liu what she does. She like activating its heat-seeking abilities abilities on this missile rerouting it so that it shoots the helicopter. I thought that's because she turned on the heat seeking she's ripping out some wires and it says there's something about heat-seeking that helicopters got more of a heat signature than Charlie doesn't as little bungalow on the beach. Even the last scene I think is one of the weakest weakest scenes in the movie with that after they get this all solved and yeah they all come out on the beach and they're laying there and I guess they just don't go anywhere because the next scene they put on bathing suits and are at the beach and having a phone call with Charlie just like the TV series but they want to know. When can we see you charlie just like the TV series Dylan is gonNA gotta look off in the distance and realizes hey the producer of this film. I'm the one who gets to see Charlie but she's not going to tell her friends. They didn't listen actor for that. I that I there's no way away as John Foresight. That's eighty something at this point walking down that beach I thought maybe they find out all the credited actor somehow and but I couldn't find any listing for who this actually was Aaron spelling. I don't know he's even older than John. I think but we get this and unseen and all I can think about was I know. Movies aren't usually shot in order but at what point did Lucy Liu and Bill Murray throw punches at each other yeah. I'm really curious about that. To what is the story here. You keep getting at it okay during the filming of this movie. They're doing a scene bill. Murray rakes character Sir looks at Drew Barrymore's. I get why you're oh it looks at Cameron. Diaz says and this one can act that looks at Lucy Liu but what is she doing here. She cannot read her lines right. That's really neat. I guess it gets on film because nobody yelled cut. It wasn't on on the blooper reel that will see during the credits and apparently people had to restrain Lucy. Liu was flying punches at him. They should the film that fight scene of the most realistic looking on and Drew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz propose. We're like we're getting the fuck Outta here and ran to their trailers. Well Lucy Liu went ballistic and Majia to deal with it. All that is one of the funniest things ever. I feel bad for laughing but she can't act he's right but I mean he he. He complimented Cameron Diaz as acting so. I don't know how right Bill Murray is that's true I guess yeah and also from rumors from the set Mickey. He himself claims Bill Murray headbutted him onset. I would do the same to g after watching this now Murray. His exact quote is that's bullshit. That's complete crap. I don't know why he made that story up. He has a very active imagination. Then then Marie continues no he deserves to die. He should be pierced with a lance headbutted double down on way too dumb bill. That's why we love you know Headbutt stab g with a lance. That's what Murray said as recently as nine still better yeah. He's still harboring that grudge icy and asked about Lucy Liu. All he'll say is he'll dismiss you completely if you're unprofessional and working with him so I guess he's implying. Lucy Lewis Unprofessional no yeah but apparently Bill Murray is is an asshole. We already talked about how he won't get an agents. He may not show up for your movie not to tell us tales out of school but what his wife said in divorce court was he allegedly beat beat her oh and that he's drunkard. I definitely like I love Bill Murray but there's a dark streak there. You could see it in this films. I do believe he's a drunkard she. He said he's an alcoholic and a marijuana addict. ooh. He smokes well. That would make you less likely to punch you that. I can't see those going hand in hand. I'm so stoned on weed. I'm GonNa Punch. You know that that might be crack. Cocaine not weed Weed GonNa make me. I'm so stoned. I'm just GonNa lay here crazy beyond the refer. Oh my God now. I have a whole different view of him yeah so I can't say who's right and WHO's wrong. What I can say is Bill Murray said during ringing after this film I will never work with Lucy Liu again. When it came time for the sequel he told McGee. It's her me next movie different Bosley. Yeah I did look up the cast list for the next one and to see if he was coming back then and no pit. We'll have a new Bosley. I guess the Asian boobs outweighed the man boobs on who came back for the ask but yeah when I see them playing in the beach there the helicopter shot of like she's keeping her distance from Murray. Oh Oh is she a good enough actress to play like she's having a good time with this guy who insulted earn front of everybody no no. She is not if so he's wrong but that was the big behind the scenes gossip. I watched several scenes like the scene with the Chinese throwing muffins where she snuggled under Bill Murray's arm and I'm I'm like Oh this had to be before he and right now the first day of shooting but before we start throwing things at each other Marjorie Jacob. Do you recommend Charlie's angels two thousand Marjorie. Hell Yeah I do. I mean this was a really great movie. It's stupid. It's fun the only difference between this and like something something like fast and furious or eighteen stars women instead of men if we don't get dumb action movies with women a lot at all. I don't think tomb raider the next year Erin Yeah. I didn't really care for Tomb Raider. It was so I'm not saying it says good. I'm saying Dumb Action Movie. They knew what kind of movie they are making and it worked it. It does get a little tedious at the end when they get to the bell tower but it's still a stupid fun movie. It's something to put on you know watching TV. Maybe have some popcorn with it or even when you're doing stuff around the house like vacuuming or cleaning. It's something to have on a good familiar movie. I really liked the Charlie's angels franchise and I think this is really good. I recommend it Jakup Jakup. I WanNa like this franchise. I really do and I know a lot of complaints in this one. I guess I'm just looking for. I don't know if more sophisticated is the right word but just more totally consistent and I do feel like big g through Great Party and that is on the screen you know despite fistfight between Lou and Bill Murray. It looks like everyone's having a great time but for me I guess it comes down to the humor in that is always very subjective and there's not enough camp here for me to buy into some some of the cheesiness with the bad blue screen effects and not enough sexiness to make these innuendos really fun to hear. They're just very obvious and that's where it just kind of breaks down on and fails for me. It does a lot of things but it doesn't really do any of them that great but I could see the entertainment value here for me. There are three angels in this film Crispin Glover Sam Rockwell Willem Bill Murray like they all have at least one great seen that I really enjoyed them in but that's a problem when this is supposed to be about girl power and the female action stars I just I don't find them very interesting. I don't think this film has a lot of ambitions. I can't get too upset at it but it is up week not recommend. This movie was a lot of fun for me as a young man and it's fun for different reasons for me now. Is it a great movie absolutely not but I can't deny it's infectious. Vaughn I every time now I see it and I do watch this not as often as Marjorie when I say I haven't seen it. Recently I mean a few years. It's a good music video for you right. It is actually I I did see. I was channelled living like a month and a half ago. The soul train scene was on and I'm like Oh yeah. I'm GonNa Watch the funny soul train scene and I'm going to watch some of the rest in the climax came and I'm like I. I actually turned it off after and that's kicking your ass. I've watched that part of the movie just for Pure Fun. I think movie is gone. I think the acting is exactly exactly what it needs to be for this movie with Crispin Glover Bill Murray and Sam Rockwell bringing even more than the film needed but man and if nothing else this movies worth watching Sam Rockwell's dance alone that scene right there shouldn't get into recommend if the steering wheel looking does not. It's a fun big budget. It film that surprisingly. I remember it being a hit. It barely broke even in the states. It costs ninety three million well yeah. They had a huge budget legit. That's seems like a lot of money for this kind of movie in the states. It made one hundred twenty five million so that's not a huge with marketing. That's break even been maybe but what country propelled. This is big international hit. I was it was all the countries together made one hundred fifty million for a combined total of two hundred and seventy million against against ninety three million. That's tripling the budget so yeah three years later. We'd be back with the angels again but we won't be back for another two weeks because Charlie's Charlie's angels cannot not be interrupted. We got men's movies to talk about last week. We had REIMB- less blood next week doc joker looking forward to that movie I'm so excited for it looks like the joker movie. I always wanted because it's dark. It looks bizarre. It's Joaquin Phoenix Yeah. I'm excited. I'm super excited about joker. I'm not only excited for the movie which looks like it's going to be really good. I'm excited because we we are going to see the movie in New York with some of our listeners. We are having a listener party in New York City where we're GONNA be getting together at L. Pub beforehand having a drink. Maybe a snack and then heading over to see this in seventy millimeter. All the details are on our facebook page. We have an event on the page for the joker screening. We hope anyone in town for New York. Comic con like we will be or who just lives in the area. I I hear there's a few people who do live in the New York area. Hopefully you can come out and watch joker with us in seventy millimeter so we'll be reviewing that next week and then the week after that we'll we'll be back full throttle with the Charlie's angels sequel and in between this Friday we are finishing the legend Bonus series for our silver donors with the review of the eponymous movie will Smith's. I am legend the third adaptation of Richard Matheson novel but the first one to actually used who's that title that review comes out Friday and then we jump into the last of the silver level of reviews as we lead up to Zombie land double tap so so Marjorie Jacob. 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Oh you're talking about your about the seas but it was after this he would really go a different way gear after this Royal Tenenbaum's speaking of sack couple years later Garfield and lost in translation wait. What did these things speaking of sexes at a movie or is the the Garfield movie. I'm confused. He did that because he thought it was the COEN brothers. I've never even heard of this movie Garfield now yeah. I thought you said speaking speaking of sex. Was that a movie. Should I say speaking of sex yes yeah. I just assumed that was a movie. I hadn't heard I haven't heard of it either. Then I then I'm like well. Maybe he was saying speaking of Sex Garfield. You WanNa fuck the cast. A different Garfield that I thought it was but I I have no idea why WII said speaking of sex that is a movie starring James Spader and Megan Mullaly. ooh that sounds like a really weird offerman. Well Okay Offerman. I and I get it now is it is it. Megan Nick just fucking onscreen because it seems like what that would be given those two. It's GONNA come out. Kris crystal clear spin clear urban Kevin Glover Yeah crispy clay. I got up on that long. Alex baking the souffle getting ready to tell P no getting ready to tell. I don't even know his name Joey. Yeah I central bland actor dirt anyway. I don't even know his name. I've seen this movie a hell of a lot of times getting ready to tell Gabe Jason that WHO's give it Jason Jason Gibbons given the three women needs a knuckle up and go save the day knuckle can't say man up no. It's just really funny. The truth is that's not a pygmy not hatchets a different kind of bird out well. Now we know who the real bird watcher is. It wasn't a Bosley the pilot film it's Arnie whoever wrote the IMDB Trivia if anyone's going to identify that bird its IMDB Trivia section. I really really ticked off about it too. I love going to trivia whenever I'm watching a period piece because those tires were invented for another three in nineteen sixty seven no sir. I love downloading the shit. That's like this person also started a movie with this person person who then started in a movie with another person who went back to this movie. It's like that is not trivia. That's bullshit. It's like Drew Barrymore starred in a film with Adam Sandler Bler at Adam Sandler. He's been in the film with everyone so that doesn't count Adam Sandler did a film with fifty cent and fifty cent did a movie with Cameron Diaz. I don't know if that's true. The the Trivia Kevin Bacon game is not good Trivia. No account vote all of it. I actually logged. IMDB just to say not helpful I got to say my favorite my climax. Thanks for this film that came out wrong. You've climax many times. I think by this point at the race track specifically. That's it's that steering wheel looking right there. 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11 Trivia Questions on Snow Movies

Trivia With Budds

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11 Trivia Questions on Snow Movies

"It's eleven trivia questions on movies featuring snow. This is trivia with buds. Burn what it'd be and and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out my shell now. This show usually comes out every single day but I am three days behind. We had an unfortunate death in my family. We lost my wife's GRANDPA are Papa Glenn on Friday. So you've missing the show for three days. We've been dealing with all all kinds of crazy stuff and I will be posting an episode sometime in the next week or two. Or whenever I get around to it about our papa. He was a really really brilliant guy. And I have some cool audio of just videos. We made together He was an author. He published six books. You can look them up. Glen Stopped L. E. N. S. T. O. T. and he was just a very accomplished guy and He will be very very missed in our family especially as a great Granddad Dad to our two kids so if you've been wondering where the shows at that's where I've been and I will try and post a bunch episodes in the next few days to catch up But that will happen from time to time do backed up because of a life and all the things that go with it but today's episode is going to be a fun one guys. It's about movies with snow. Snow movies with snow. How well do you know these Arctic flicks? This was a round. I used it my life Trivia nights last week. I thought it was kind of fun. They're not all Christmasy movies. Although a few of them might be so some of them are some of them are not You will get a kick out of trying to answer these movies that feature snow and snow related. Thanks so we're going to jump right into this episode. Not to long of an intro here for you. We're GONNA jump this episode. You'RE GONNA play along yell out the answers you could write them down. Enjoy the podcast as whereas you will hear our eleven questions on movies with snow here we go all right we are starting. This episode showed off with a Bang in the form of Liam Nason question number one movies with Snow Liam Neeson fights off a bunch of wolves. What movie would that be featuring a bunch just snow question number one Liam Niessen fights off a bunch of wolves question number two kate? winslet and Cameron Diaz swap houses number. Two Kate winslet Cameron Diaz swap houses. Number two question number three Sylvester Stallone as a mountain rescuer number three so vaster stallone as a mountain rescuer movies with snow number. Three question number. Four a nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman. One of my favorites number for nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman number. Four question number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog. What movie was snow? Is that number five number five question number six. Halfway through this quiz here is number six. A superstorm. Hits Jake Jalen Hall and Dennis Quaid Question Number. Six A superstorm. Hits Jig Jilin Hall and Dennis Quaid Question Number Seven Michael. Keaton is a snowman amber seven. Michael Keaton is a snowman question number. Eight Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton find four million dollars in the woods number eight. I had to watch this in high school. Sociology class. Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton find four million dollars in the woods questionable nine vampires terrorize barrow. Alaska number nine vampires terrorize Barrow. Alaska number. Nine question number ten Ryan Reynolds gets hot to try and get his high school crush rush. Number ten Ryan Reynolds gets hot to try and get his high school crush and question number eleven when the gang falls asleep in the poppy field and it starts snowing in the wizard of Oz. What harmful substance was used for the fake snow two to points if you get that one if you're playing along at home when the gang falls asleep and the wizard of Oz what harmful substance was used for the fake snow? Those are your questions for movies with snow. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. We are back everybody with movies with snow. No answers eleven questions eleven answers here's number one Liam Neeson fights off a bunch of wolves. That movie is called the gray the gray. I think this is one of his first movies. After the big taken movie came out and people were very excited and then it was like not that great kind of a boring movie. Ends kind of weird and I I don't remember much about it. To tell you the truth. It was called though and there were wolves number one the gray number two kate. winslet and Cameron Diaz swap houses. The holiday number two the holiday is that that movie one of my mom's favorites number three semesters stallone as a mountain. Rescuer is called cliffhanger. I never saw that movie cliffhanger thing Jon voight the villain sly stallone alone. Pretty ripped early nineties number four nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman. Late Ninety Snow Day was that movie. This is a great film if you've not seen at checkout snow day EH. Maybe on Netflix or on demand of some kind and Chevy Chase is kind of a really small part of it but I think they used him a lot of the advertisements to get people like some recognition of if somebody because there was a lot of Kid Actors I think Josh from Drake and Josh is in it when he was real hefty as a little kid but Chris Elliott. I think it's Chris. Elliot plays a tow truck driver and he's really funny and the whole movie is Great. I love the idea of like just being off. I knowed it really makes you feel like a kid number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog John. Carpenter's the thing the thing Kurt Russell and the thing number five number six a superstorm hits. Jake Jalen Jalen Hall Dennis Quaid. That's the day after tomorrow the day after tomorrow number seven Michael Keaton Snowman. He's been so many men Birdman Batman Snowman. Jack Frost was the the answer Jack for us not to be confused with Jack Frost about a killer Snowman and its Sequel Jack Frost to which I watched a lot from eighth grade to twelfth grade number eight Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxon find four million dollars in the woods. I mentioned had to watch it in school. Simple plan pretty good movie very depressing simple plan number nine vampires. Here's terrorized Barrow Alaska. Thirty days of night is vampire movie. Josh Hartnett one of the last things I remember seeing him in thirty days of night and then the Sin City. 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Mon. 1/6 - Rita Wilsons Golden Globes Hair and Makeup Artist Was 88 Minutes Late!

Celeb News Ride Home

19:26 min | 1 year ago

Mon. 1/6 - Rita Wilsons Golden Globes Hair and Makeup Artist Was 88 Minutes Late!

"Welcome to Celeb- news ride home for Monday January very six twenty twenty. I'm your host Kate Raft. And Wow oh my God. I don't know about you guys but I'm so exhausted from last night. What happened last site? Oh you know just one of the biggest nights and Showbiz he. Yeah I'm talking about the night. Gwyneth paltrow announced. She's doing Netflix. Google TV show. Who Oh yeah and I guess also the Golden Globes happened? Today's topics the Golden Globes happened Cameron Diaz named her child radic's and a Ferrari crashed into Lisa. Vander pumps pump restaurant. Here's what you missed today. In the world of celebrity news last night was the annual Golden Globe awards and I loved it. I love watching the Golden Globes Emmy. And what's not to love. Celebrities are looking great. They're acting very very intoxicated. And that is what Hollywood is all about my friends so I'm just going to dive into it. Let's talk about the most important headlines coming out of last night's Golden Globes. I mean number. One is obvious. Read a Wilson's hair and makeup person was over an hour and twenty minutes late. Okay so let's back up a little bit. I want to kind of set a tone here. I'm going to set it. Set you into a time and a place. Okay it's the morning of the Golden Globes and Rita Wilson Elson rolls out of bed. She so excited okay. She's glowing. She's a newly minted. Greek citizen and her husband. Tom Hanks is about to be honored with the Cecil. B Komo award at the Golden Globes. But wait something's not right. What time is it? And why isn't her hair and makeup person here. He's he's nowhere to be found. That's when Rita Wilson whips out her phone and starts firing off some nut too happy tweets. Okay the first one was posted and it said quote my hair and makeup person is one hour and twenty minutes late then exactly eight minutes later. She tweeted hair and makeup. Still not here. who trying to be then? She then added a third tweet saying book to this person in September hair and makeup. Still not here then. Apparently the makeup artist finally did show up so she posted a Selfie of her hair. In kind of like a beach you wave. She wrote an instagram caption. Saying quote. What you look Blake when your hair and makeup person for the at Golden Globes is one and a half hours late even though you booked him in September will leave one hour to do hair and makeup jakup and quote? Wow Rita's day was totally ruined. I mean can you imagine the stress of your hair and makeup Persson being an hour and twenty eight minutes minutes late to do your hair and makeup. I mean I can't imagine because I've never been in that position but it sounds really really hard and like I know there's a lot of bad things happening thing in the world right now but like this is something that we all need to feel sad about okay. We're we're here for you Rita we are here for you in your heart time and and it's not just me who's here for you okay. A lot of your celebrity friends chimed in on the instagram posts with solidarity as you struggle through this problem mm one such sola was Julianne Moore who commented. Omg I feel you on the Post Emily Hampshire from Shits Creek commented saying. OMG Hate your makeup artist right now. That's so not cool but you're cool without any of it. So F them. Kate Bosworth chimed in saying. Oh that's the craziest feeling. You look gorgeous anyway though. Kissy as Daisy Fuentes. Commented saying I can't stand with rude. Unprofessional inconsiderate crap. Like that luckier. You're gorgeous and have an epic main Hashtag and naturally beautiful and you know what Michelle Pfeiffer was there for Rita as well commenting with a simple red heart heart. Rita Wilson wasn't the only Tom Hanks family member to do some weird stuff on social media. Tom Hanks Rita Wilson's white rapper. Sunday an chat. Hanks posted something very odd to his instagram. You know what I'm just GonNa play the audio clip of it for you right here. Just imagine. He's filming himself himself. And he's standing on the red carpet for the Golden Globes. I'm just going to present this without comment and then immediately move on because truly I have no words to say about this very weird big up the whole on my suits tabloids stat constructed from that golden glow of your percents own in other fun things that happened at the Globes. Well Pierce Brosnan's gorgeous. Tall wispy else likes son. was Mr golden gloves so he was on stage helping ushering the celebs to whole Night Vale. Hater and Rachel bills in made their relationship red carpet official when they walked down the red carpet together. And guess what we stand. We Love we love the right. Another couple that made their red carpet appearance. Last last night was Rooney Mara and walking Phoenix. And I saw them together and I was like what have I just been like living under a rock Holland of how long have Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney me more than a couple. I mean shame on me for not knowing that. That's really that's quite a couple of right there. That's quite a double. I mean dear God. They've been together. Gather since at least two thousand seventeen I must have known about this and just like a raised it from my brain. Maybe I didn't want it to be true or something I have no idea but but now I know and now you know and now we can all try to remember going forward that Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara are a COUPLA okay. And they're not just just a couple they are engaged. They're engaged to be married. Just write that in your celebrity notebook. You know where you keep all your notes another big moment at the award show was ellen candid. Generous winning the Carol Burnett Award for achievement in Television Kate Mckinnon introduced her and got emotional about her own coming out and you know lesbian representation on television Tom. Hanks of course won the Cecil B Demille Award Charlene's thrown introduced him. Tom Got really choked up when he had to talk about his family and his speech they sat right in front of him. All his kids were there. It was sweet. It was very sweet. He almost cried. He like lost his words when he was talking about how wonderful his wife was and the luckily she was sitting there looking up at him from the audience and guess what she had a full face of makeup and her hair was done so looks like her story and did on a positive note and other big takeaway from the award show. was that a a lot of celebrities. Brought up the Australia Fires Russell. Crowe won his category but literally couldn't go to accept it because he was on the ground in his home country of Australia. Fighting those spires Phoebe Waller Bridge from fleabag is actually going to donate the auction profits from her suit that she wore to the Australian firefighting leading effort of. This was a fun moment. Okay so ansel elgort. He came up to introduce one of the awards and he did this. All the nominees. He's for fest over. Originally Martin Scorsese was there and he brought his young daughter. You know the one who told him by wrapping Christmas presents and Marvel wrapping paper. Yeah we I love. We love a fine young teen daughter. We love it. We love a trolley daughter. Michelle Williams of course showed up with her baby bump and fiance as expected. That's Thomas Kale sale in case you forgot they both have kind of some fuzzy timing when it comes to ending their previous relationships and starting this relationship she also brought best friend busy Phillips along as her other date which is great. We Love Them. They're great best friend goals. You know you and I have to mention that Jay Z and beyonce were there. They showed up in the middle of the ceremony. Fashionably late they. Didn't you know present anything or win any awards but they looked great. She were these big puffy sleeves. Which I guess is one of the big themes names of the night fashion wise and lastly one of my favorite headlines from last night's show is actress? Joey King I guess accidentally got hit in the face with Patricia. ARQUETTE's cats Golden Globe like the award physically smacked joey in the forehead anyway. Joey instagram's the big old bruise on her forehead and said it was a brag. Okay so those were my biggest moments from last night's show. I'm now going to get into the winners and losers in the upsets and the snubs and then we're GonNa talk some Fashion Sleep Doc. It's January twenty twenty which everyone knows means it's the future right right like twenty twenty is the most futures Sifi Ish Year of all time. And I'm pretty sure. A lot of people predicted that by now in in January array twenty twenty. We'd be teleporting to work or living on Mars and a lot of those predictions are actually devastatingly wrong. But the truth is no one can actually predict the future. Not even that psychic in Long Beach they went to that one time said I was in a past life. And that's why we need to get life insurance right. That's where policy genius can help policy genius makes finding the right life insurance a breeze. In minutes you can compare quotes from top insurers to find the best best price you can save fifteen hundred dollars or more a year by using policy genius to compare life insurance policies. I went to their site. And I've got to say it's gorgeous urges. It's really easy to figure out. took me no more than like two minutes to fill out a questionnaire and they don't hound you with phone calls afterwards. Once you apply the Policy Genius Team mm-hmm will handle all the paperwork and red tape. So you don't have to so if you're science-fiction dreams for twenty twenty still haven't become science fact. Don't get discouraged. Babe get life insurance. It only takes a few minutes. Read your best price and apply at policy. GENIUS DOT COM policy. Genius will always get the future wrong a better get life insurance right now. It's time to get into a quick rundown of the winners and and losers and surprises and snubs of the Golden Globe awards. Okay let's go starting with best performance by an actor and TV series musical or comedy. The winner of that. Juan went to Romney Yousef for his Hulu show Rami. I really liked his speech. He gave a nice speech the next award for best performance by an actress in a TV musical or comedy went to phoebe Waller Bridge for fleabag. FLEABAG also won for best comedy. TV show she actually addressed Obama watching her masturbate to his speech in her her speech when she accepted the award. Play the clip here. We go hasn't the I'd like to say thank Obama for putting us on his list. Some of you may know he's always been mine. Other winners owners include Brian Cox from succession. He won best actor in a TV. Drama Olivia Colman for her part. In the crown she won the best actress in a TV. The drama the award for Best Actor Limited series went to Russell Crowe for the loudest voice. He wasn't there. He was fighting the fires in Australia. Michelle Williams one for Fossey avert and she gave a very emotional speech about pro choice Patricia. arquette one for her part in the act which she was so good and I love the act so good Stellan skarsgard ars guard one for his part internal succession won for best TV series for drama. And like I said before fleabag for comedy best picture musical or comedy went went to once upon a time in Hollywood best motion picture drama went to nineteen seventeen best motion picture. Foreign Language. Went to parasite yes. I love beer site so good best screenplay went to Quentin Tarantino for once upon a time in Hollywood in his speech he thanked his pregnant wife. WHO's over in Israel right now? Best Song went to Elton. John and Bernie Tobin been for their original song. They wrote for rocket man and Brad Pitt won for best supporting actor in once upon a time in Hollywood and his speech was so good he said he wanted to thank his partner in crime l. d. c. and everyone was like who's LDC. And then. I think we all put them together when they cut to Leonardo DiCaprio Brio I love it. LDC Such a good nickname for a Leonardo DiCaprio. Why aren't we all using nut? Brad Pitt also said in his speech that he would have shared the raft like a reference Tannock personally as a lifelong titanic. Stan we call ourselves. Titanic's this might have been my favorite speech of the night. I gotta say like I love love their friendship but I love that. He made a titanic Reverend's also he seemed completely stoned out of his mind a allegedly. But like come on. It's Brad Pitt Laura dern won best actress in a supporting role for marriage story Taryn. Edgerton won the best actor in a musical or comedy for his Film Rocket Man. Walking Phoenix won. Best Actor in a motion picture drama for Joker and the best actress in a motion picture drama went to Renee Zellweger for Judy. Uh she was so good and Judy. If you haven't seen Judy I really recommend it. I mean it's just like two hours of Renee Zellweger diving into the character of an elder Judy Garland. And when I say elder I mean forty seven. But she's a rough forty seven anyway. It's such a good movie. I highly recommend it and I'm really happy. She won an lastly Aquafina one for her part in the farewell which was a historic win because This is the first time. A woman of Asian descent has won a Golden Golden Globe for lead actress in a comedy which is pretty cool in summary. The biggest snubs of the night definitely had to be the Irishman going home with no awards. Same with marriage story. They only got the Laura dern supporting award and also a lot of people are surprised to see nineteen seventeen win so big at also won for Best Directors Mendes Mendes left without award. I mean nineteen seventy-nine. Who knew sleeper? Hit I guess I don't know it. It seems really boring to me. I mean I've never seen it but every time I save one thousand nine hundred seventeen I like almost fall asleep so guess I'm GonNa have to see it though care about my thoughts on the Golden Globes Globes fashion. Oh I bet you do. Obviously you're not going to be able to see the clothing. I'm talking about but just head over to our instagram account at Celeb- ride home for a visual usual aid for the following segment. First of all everyone pretty much more colorful tinted sunglasses like not literally everyone but it felt like everyone were tinted sunglasses. So I guess that's the new thing in Hollywood. Maybe maybe 'cause weeds legal in California. Everyone just like showed up super baked. I have no idea media. J. Lo were a big bow on her dress. In my opinion the Bo is too big. I thought Joseph was GONNA pop out from behind it joey gang dressed cool like Kinda Looking like an optical illusion. Billy Porter showed up dressed. Like an angelic Centaur. Gwyneth Paltrow wore a controversial outfit. which I I would describe as a puppy Brown see-through weird roughly thing that most people hate it? Sorry Babe I love it though. She looks like she's wearing a weird eared. Roughly Bikini and it's like a see through curtain and I love it. Okay if he can't stand the heat get out of the Goo kitchen. My Girl Beanie Feldstein looked to be any PHINEAS Helsetine as she gave us some major giant headband vibes. and Jesus Joe Very Fabulous in like a Navy Ensemble. Lucy Boynton also looks really cool. She had like a hot metallic high fashion. Roughly robot thing going on I did not love Taylor Swift stressed us but I do think she should own. Her masters just wanted to throw that in their overall there was like way too many sequins. I think sequence need to be stopped sequencer becoming too powerful. All we need to stop the sequence from taking over best dressed in my opinion was definitely Cate Blanchett because she wore yellow my favorite color and she kind of looked like a sexy. The air conditioner to okay okay. I know I'm running out of time for this episode but I could not put out this Monday episode without mentioning Radic's if you don't know who radic's is you need to get your head screwed on straight because Roddick's is the hottest new CELEB- to make their way into Hollywood that's right right Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden welcomed. A baby girl and guess what they named her radic's like R. A. D. D. I X. Cameron Diaz posted posted about the baby's birth saying that she was Rad. Anyway go to Cameron Diaz His instagram for the full post. I just wanted to get that in there. Because we we I love Roddick's we stand radical Roddick's is one of the wildest and maybe most unhinged celebrity baby names I've ever heard but I'm fully here for it Roddick's this is the year of radical. Everybody and one more quickey little topic before recall it a Monday we savannah pumps restaurant pump. had a Ferrari derive right into it over the weekend destroying a window and the visual is really really wild. It's literally exactly what we think of. Ferrari very has smashed into the front of pump. Is this Promo for Vander pump rules which does come back tomorrow night. I Dunno maybe is this insurance fraud. which a lot of people on twitter saying I allegedly don't know but maybe I mean her restaurants have a weird pattern of catching on fire all the time and now her restaurant restaurant has had a Ferrari drive into it? I guess congrats on the The show making some headlines right thanks for tuning into another episode of Celeb- news ride home. I've been your host Kate Raft. You can follow me at right. Kate raft and hey go ahead and followed the show at celebrity at home on twitter and instagram. Thanks to ride home media and my co producer. Engineer Jack Allison and that's take the show. Thank you so much for listening subscribing love you bye bye see tomorrow uh-huh.

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042121 Total Recall

Ace and TJ

25:14 min | 3 weeks ago

042121 Total Recall

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Because they're celebrating their star on the hollywood walk of fame and justin splipped his panel saying yes that during the game of never had i ever been he in fact did hook up with spice girl which one it is. Ellen may have more details today with news you can follow me for more stories like these online at gwen. Radi baby baby. Dated cameron. Says jessica biel. We're maybe sporty now. Massport jessica biel fix forty to the max to always fit to the max finger. I was always gender earth. A girl i knew it was always what. What is this. The more you wanted to say which one were you space growing baby. Well i was always More into posh till Until they broke up and then they they've started their own individual celebrity things. And now i would be way way. Wouldn't even be close which one i would be into just looks wise. Who melle mel. But i agree. I think it's harsh knows with justin timberlake about because david beckham and timberlake or kind of similar posh was tall and thin kind of like cameron diaz and then jessica biel just bill posh or the same. Look to you well. Being tall thin fit fashion fan. I wouldn't put them in the same loop in category two. The mine is heavy. Makeup in one is not now. They just don't they don't look like the same type. Yeah me nyc Posh victoria is way more glamorous than agree yeah and then has to be dressed to the nines all the time whereas jessica biel is more like a can be cute but then she can turn around and be glamorous and beautiful and all that so then he had cameron diaz in the middle to kind of bridge the gap from one extreme where that was when he went through that phase of wanting to date someone with the lowest. I q possible because when he wanted this when he was with cameron diaz. She's not smart. If you've ever seen her saying her own words that weren't a script. I mean it's bad it's by twenty years ago. Yes that's when she said if you don't vote in your for rape that's yeah that's what she's i mean. It's not okay. i mean you've searched that clip. You could find it. you'll see. I'm not exaggerating this. she was a blithering moron. What is brittany fit into that whole thing where it was that was brittany before the spice girl. And do we know. We don't have time on that time for justin tim allen data by now but i still think that he's he's always searching for the next britney he never got over that. You thought britney spears on. Instagram can understand why because that clip that she just put out of her. Dancing stinky has never gotten over pinky. Ah kid have too much dim right. And they were showing that You know the clips of of the years passed on entertainment tonight last night. The the look back at memory lane of instinct and all in all the guys you buddies hanging out and then all of a sudden he started dating her and then it's interview the guys and brittany and you know they're sitting there thinking why can't bring a girl up in the middle of all this guy guys hanging out you know that one guy who can't hang with the guys without bringing his girlfriend around. Who are the guys. don't like that. I'm telling you that matter how cool your girlfriend is. If she's not a guy and his guys night or guys day don't bring your girl because it messes everybody up because you gotta watch which say got to be respectful yet to you know. Make sure you're not telling anything that's gonna make her mad that he said something one time or before he. She knew him he did this. And why didn't he tell me about that. And all those kinds of things so it goes the same way with women to the right. If you have a girls girls get together and one of them brings her boyfriend. Sure kate ruined the whole Yeah but that's okay. To say is not okay. A woman can't be somewhere where men are. Go anywhere i want. You're not going to tell me where i can go and can't go. Are you saying that if i go out to hide. That's what i wanna know. What are you trying to hide. What are you gonna be up to that. I can't go. What are you going to be up to that. i can't go. yeah they all love me. I know that so. This must be a u problem. What are you are. Are you going to be doing something that you don't want me to see that when he says and now it's fine come on this and then they walk in and the other guys go. Oh man hi. Thank goodness then. That's when he stops getting invited. The things we figured you with your girl we always are. What's supposed to nothing away. Here she comes out. Bathroom is the. Act tj total recall. Podcast stop. We'd give this a silly little try today. There are So many news stories that come out where they've done these studies and it's just patently obvious information that people have known forever but News people and Radio hosts some radio hosts will take the story as it being ground breaking news in present it as such so. This is an example holidays. Tj's obvious news. Hey did you guys here. Do you hear about this new survey. They've done these researchers. Did you hear about these researchers what they've done no okay. These researchers have have studied to find out which habits could lead to ten years being added to your live so if you wanna live ten years longer these groundbreaking things the habits that you need to be in number five. If you drink this contrary to most believe this says limit yourself to moderate drinking. Don't don't just go out and get as drunk as you possibly can every day of the week if you wanna live longer. That's not good for you. you know. that's the opposite of what we've always believed right number four in this one almost knocked me off my chair when i read it this morning. And that's why we had to bring it to the people. Number four is don't smoke. Don't smoke the cigarettes or so all of this time. you know. We've been thinking that they have vitamin c. n. them and thinking that it's filled with fiber. Yeah to keep us. Keep us regular and keep us Also our immune systems up with vitamin c. Turns out smoking is not good for you. The third thing that they found in this key study to help us live ten years longer maintain a healthy weight. So don't get too skinny and don't get too fat because that's not healthy on either side. You wanna maintain a healthy weight a moderate weight. And i think they said something that we've heard before it depends on your height as to what your ideal weight would be and again blown away over here but let me ask you this to jay. Is there such thing as being too skinny. Well i always thought a strain on your heart. I always thought no especially for women if they have fake boobs so i don't know whether they're doing the study on. That proved me wrong or not. But when i think maintain a healthy weight young people that go up and down a lot that puts the such a strain on your body even the cholesterol levels going up and down like that of course if you years gets the triglycerides to clog up in your heart and then you need to stints and you need all those things so that can prevent you rubbing along life now. You're taking this area. Well number of johnny three mean number two. The list is really understand when something is dripping with sarcasm. We'll help you relax and live ten years longer. Especially when you're on a radio show that is built around sarka some fun yes number two if you wanna live ten years longer. This groundbreaking study says exercise regularly. Regularly doesn't have to be a hard core cross fit routine or anything but it does need to be consistent is not a hardcore cross that routine your punk. Well it's regular exercise will help you be more healthy and and possibly extra years in the number one thing but let me point real quick. Do cross with the number one thing for maintaining a healthy life. That could lead to ten years of your living longer and not living longer suffering living longer in a healthy way and enjoying life. The number one thing. It says we should do that. I just hope the word gets out from this study. Eat healthy look at that. Does it breakdown. It just says Don't hit the drive through five times a week yet. There's a jeffrey opposite of what. I've always thought we were supposed to do. Don't eat a quote unquote healthy amount. Health healthy is. What do we do it. I would say that keeps this whole thing. From being one giant piece of brilliance is that they should have used an adverb on that last one. Eat healthily no. Oh can we even believe this study. now. I don't think we can. I think it's all bogus because as crazy as all that information was topsy turvy. World of what we've been led to believe all this time the fact they don't know the proper usage of an advert tells me that it's just a bunch of hooey as the kids. Call it just a bunch of hooey disabled as i read it online. This kim kardashian yesterday on the On the ellen she said travis scott is filled with a bunch of hooey cat. What she said travis. Scott there was some good news dot com. Whichever one whichever one drive in scott was so there you go. You could find this in usa today. Sure want to study more by the rediscovery for change. Your life cast why jodi jay's wife is banned from affiliate road trips and what happened when my girlfriend then girlfriend now wife got our first nasty comment via social media all next on total recall. Tj's total recall podcast. This is the and tj total recall. Podcast my wife's name is jody in our kids are older now so they can do their own thing and When it comes time for me to have to go somewhere for work or whatever we're going gonna be overnight or if it's just a it's a weekend thing whatever she last. Is that something you want me to go to is to say. Hey if you want me to go with you this weekend if you if you've if it's okay And so. I said sure sure. That'd be great Aces girlfriend. Amanda got out of school early friday and could go. So everything's fine It's it was about a four hour trip from our house. We left saturday more and got their saturday afternoon. Did the event. Saturday evening A lot of the drive was. Oh my god this is far. We have been on the road for ever. It seems like we could have already been. We could have been destined by now meaning where we go on vacation so we could have been going somewhere really fun with this much driving but in reality not even close i know but it feels like so we get there get checked into the room and they sent someone From the radio station to pick us up say to the event and his name's rob really cool and it was in a brand new minivan and the the women's got in the very back seat and then in the eighth. And i were in the two seats right behind the driver and passenger captain shares. Yeah and We get to the event and Rob says hang on a minute. Let me go and check to see if Where you guys are supposed to be. They have your passes. The you know all of this stuff. Just sit tight. And i'll be back as soon as he leaves. Jody starts going. We need to go see what's going on. This is where the concert stuff is over here. Y'all needed johnny. Go find somebody and see what's going on. Go look for the you know the the station tent or somebody. That's what he's doing. She didn't even hear me. Y'all need are we just gonna sit here. I mean you need to get out. You don't need to go find out what's going on in other words like you don't know what you and i said. Hey this is your first one of these. We know what we're doing right. We we wait here and they bring us stuff and we go where we're supposed to be been well. I'm starving. I need a beer. And i need something to eat and i'll be fine. You hear another thing out of me and so she gets up there and i. We're gonna walk out there and see if that if that truck over there. Selling food has beer beer. Yeah sure this is backstage. We're still trying to introduce ourselves to the guy who's running the thing and she's floating around out there where they don't have beer and he goes. Well what kind of beer do you on i just wanted to be. I am starving to that. He we're gonna have food here and just kind of like calm down. We're gonna have food here in just a minute. And but she was like. I'm gonna go hunt it down. I want to go find. She's hot dogs and stuff. You're gonna find hotdog beer. And because the big carnival atmosphere you know so he comes driving up on his golf cart. Just like i don't know five minutes later with a case of miller lite g diving in it like. She's bobbing for apples. I'm going into the tent. The tent set up the buffet backstage. And all of that. She's in there just tearing it up holding court course telling us what we need to be doing okay. The very first time one of these and you've got the blueprint for how it needs to be done. It was funny when she said can't believe y'all you know anything about what's going on. Well we do. What's going on. we wait here. We've done this a thousand dollars. We wait they come back over. And say hey. Y'all need to be here this time here this island here at this time. That's how it works when we get our run. Dads how it always works. Hand us a sheet. Every i think at one point she just goes do. Y'all even know if you're supposed to be here just waiting. This is what we do. We're we'll hang back here for you make your entrance up before making your entrance. We have done this exact same thing. One hundred literally a thousand times that our career. We know what we're doing. She's a little angry. No she was she wasn't in control of it and i doesn't understand something that means she's got to take control of you but although we seemed out of control we were in control of this. This is what we're going to be broken up very. We know they'll bring us her freshman. You just might have to wait a second more. Not just no one with her not knowing what the next step is just like in that limbo of what are we doing. What are we sitting here. What what's going on the fun part to me those things. I what time y'all go on. I know and you'd see the top of her head like it was gonna blow up. He don't even know what you're going to be going up there. No we'll find automated. She couldn't fathom organized and so step by step with her whole life. She just it was just blowing her go. You don't even know what time you're going to go on stage in front of all. These people are what you're gonna say everything. I don't think tj was trying to explain. We are organized. What we're doing does does she know. This was her last affiliate trip gear griped. All the way home apart was doesn't seem quite as far but it's still far. This is the and tj total recall. Podcast i've been divorced for a while now. And i have a girlfriend in her She's a little younger than me. Sorry she's twenty five. And so. I had waited a long time to post a picture of her until my kids were cool with it. You know when they say it's it's okay to post a picture that it was so after our big event of the night called second chance prom. I posted on my instagram. Which is ace at large. I posted the first photo of the two of us together and the feedback was really really nice. I got several thousand. Likes and over one hundred comments. And i'd give it any thought until i just happen to scroll through saturday and there was a comment which i can't find it the moment to get it exact but it said something to the effect of so this is what twenty five looks like. Ll that be looks like. She's in her late thirties. Dan and amanda my girlfriend thought she was very funny. I was like look. That's just was it. The one that was like with her dress. The backlist yup. Yeah house like that is that is just a little welcome to the cold harsh world of being public the public. Because we're used to. It happens to all of them all the time. Because that's what happens when you if thousands of people go and legs up the. Somebody's going to have something bad to say about you. That's messed up. Yeah she's unhappy. Who is the person who wrote that. That's twenty five thirty nine late thirties. Talk twenty-five looks like ll that be Is in her late late thirty. She's a day or something like that l. then was like that's what happens was the lady who made the comment she young. I don't know she older and could have possibly been not that you did this by any means because It was well after. Your divorce was done before you did any kinda dating or anything but you think she may have lost out to a younger woman in. that's why she's kind of bitter to that can't see her face in her picture. Because you know that that happened a lot of men women and get well. I mean the the naturally upset if they if they lose their guy to a younger woman. Yeah it's a traditional but but they usually don't blame it on every young woman they see but maybe every young woman they see with an old. Do i mean. That's what triggered if she just seeing a picture of a man by herself ourselves you know. She's as cute as she can be. Look how she's door -able yes theater with you. Then she's like ramones too young person the slightly older boyfriend That we're calling boy for. That's kind of weird down. She's she's my gif. I'm her behalf after being buried for so long and then not being married and then suddenly you end up in a relationship you say it. It is weird to say you have my girlfriend not weird but yet in a bad way just kind of odd referring to yourself as her dreamy boyfriend. I'm amanda dreamy boyfriend. Do that people there make people not even notice the difference because they'll think i'm weird and just say she's the bees as in tj total recall. Podcast is new at noon. every day subscribe now tunes.

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The Holiday "leftovers" - with Kim Renfro and Joanna Robinson

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The Holiday "leftovers" - with Kim Renfro and Joanna Robinson

"Hey everybody around here with another movie Podcast about the holiday it's going on prestige again. it's one of those Marginal prestige films but it doesn't ever robot some space ninjas and shit like that and it's it's bright white line if you did not know because perhaps you're not a club member or a patron We have a couple of christmas. Themed movies that we do podcasts. For kinda give gifts to the listeners. as premium podcast. We did one. This year was My my favorite Christmas romcom holiday starring jude law kate. Winslet's and cameron diaz and jack block directed by nancy. meyers jim. I did review on that That was my such as one of my suggestions. And i asked him before recorded. I said hey. Jim what is your level of interest in doing a deep dive like relationship mechanics in this film and like what it says about culture as a as a whole and how this fits into the history of lack rom coms and its totality and he said is there a quantity. That's less than zero. Because dad is my interest level in getting into any of that on this podcast so i said okay fair enough but that did free me up to ask my friends kim renfro enjoying a robinson from insider and vanity fair to come on and talk about s- my favorite romcom for the christmas the holiday. And you know that sounds like a fun conversation for you. Then you're more than welcome to listen to the next hour and a half of it. And if not i'll see on the new year merry christmas everybody. Here is the conversation already in progress. We are all. I was wanting to break for my podcast and i went on this website. That's a career swap and is type in dislike. Get away there. A there's a writer for vanity fair and reporter from her and we're all able to make this this three way rob and just get away from Welcome to the podcast. Kim renfro from insider. Thank you glad to be here for. What is truly probably gonna be my podcast magnum opus here. Because i don't think i can talk about anything the way i can talk about christmas movies to be like i said i think you really press people with the deep dark knowledge that you dropped on us this year so compared to the time he weiming interlocking stuff. The plot of the holiday is a little bit easier to understand. And then and also we've got joanna robinson from vanity fair joining the podcast as well. Maybe for the first time. Think so for the first time. And now i kind of want to create like a cork board wall Tracking of holidays storylines. Hala what i am sure. Kim has for dark. Because i agree with you. No one. no one explains better than kim renfro. So i'm excited to hear. Explain the holiday. It's now time for the nancy. Meyers cinematic universe. These were finding the holiday to that. Like jude law is actually also related to cameron diaz cameron diaz is grandmother from a different alternate reality version of hollywood The two little girls are actually also kate. Winslet and cameron diaz. Oh my god. I think the hair color lines for that. That's that's a that's a hot. That's a that's that's that's a that's a heartache and Crazy theory yeah. We're wanna talk about the holiday. I'm kind of double dipping on this podcast. Because jim i did this for like a gift for christmas for our our followers but then i saw kim kind of like talking about how much she loves the movie and mc this would be a lot of fun to talk about the holiday and do like a very special edition. Kinda gossipy holiday podcast. I'm assume you've both seen the movie and enjoy it very much. So i mean yes. I'm no. I'm no camera expert. Probably but no i mean the holiday is. I can't remember if i watched it in theaters. But it's definitely a movie that i re watched more times than i ever would have guessed. After the first time i saw it And like you know. At first i came back for eli wallach. Who's my favorite part. And then i started coming back for like stack. Lack and kate winslet and now he's loved the whole thing like a lake. Sort of a you know my heart grew to to allow space for all of the holiday and i love all its parts so i was thrilled to be asked to do. Yeah definitely. I definitely didn't see it in theaters. I think for the first time i watched it was like somewhere around. Like twenty eleven. And i was back home for christmas and i was helping my mom decorate the christmas tree and she just like threw it on in the background and it was one of those movies. Where like by like forty five minutes into it. nita Actually decorating the tree anymore. Like we just fully sat down and we were watching the movie. And now i watch it every single year my husband and i actually use it as our like holiday movie kickoff like film like we watch it on thanksgiving night usually together like and then that is like you know after thanksgiving full-fledged holiday movie season in our house. It's funny because i i grew up in. I grew up in a religion where we didn't do a christmas and i didn't get out of that until i was in my early thirties. So i came in to like my thirties is like babe in the woods when it comes to christmas. I didn't have a lot of favorite traditions and a friend of mine. Said well you've got to watch love. Actually it's the christmas romcom. And i watched it and i'm like okay but i kind of left me kind of cold and i'm like well the bomber and then that year like in just gotten is a recently divorced. Dad had a very small kid. And i watched the holiday and i dislike. This is way more relatable. I like this a lot more. This is actually happy and joyful. And i've always kind of hated on love actually and i really liked holiday. Do you guys do you guys feel are. I don't know maybe. I'm stepping on some love. Actually toes here no. It's so funny like i. There was a while where i felt like i found myself watching love actually rear christmas like other people wanna watch it And i liked the thing about the hall. Love actually is the thing that would never happened without is what happened with holiday where i love the whole thing but with actually still just have lake certain storylines that i do love to watch some and follow and then there's plenty of nonsense that i don't wanna watch Now i think. I've seen lot actually enough times that i can just like if i wanna visit those storylines like it. Just think about them. And i don't have to watch it again and i did resent the idea that like you have to watch it every year. i hate feeling like you have to watch them every year. Like that's that's some weird thing going on with hocus pocus now. We're like people like you have to watch every year at halloween lancaster focus. I don't ever year lake. It and i liked parslow. Actually but i'm looking forward to taking. I haven't watched it this year. I hope not to looking forward to taking a couple years off a love actually You know so that. I can enjoy it again when i watch it in the future. The other thing. I think is about. This movie is like a lot of stuff like as i go back and watch love. Actually there's other films led to like Bridget jones diary like these movies seem to be aging like someone who drank the false grail from the the indiana jones and the last crusade lacked withering into this age. Like like if you if you roll even halfway the way these relationships work in this movie you're going to get up and so much legal trouble it's going to it's going to end your career slash life whereas it's funny. Because i had this idea. When i was watching it for bald move halfway through the movie i pause and i'm like i want him enjoy. It would be into this. And then i sent back to follow up. It's like oh by the way. I'm gonna half with this movie so if something like there's some war crime committed in the third act. I apologize for suggesting this idea. But as i sometimes watch the. I've got a problem here. There but like nobody shaming themselves or the people who are shaming themselves are dastardly villains. Jasper is is the fucking worst. You know The cameron diaz is boyfriend beginning. He's kind of kind of a pig But all the heroes are fairly you know the and there's no like core ship misunderstanding. Like when there is they talk about it they result. Do you guys feel like this is kind of like. I had this thesis as a missing link between like the bad rom coms and like you know. Like some of the new state of the art winds pap season and it's it's rare. The romcom gets things really bad. Do you feel like this is kind of like the super white super-rich missing link between the old broadcom's and a new her. Yeah i think. I do think that that it's a testament to like nancy meyers. Nancy meyers his ability to write characters. That you root for like pretty much the hallway through even if they aren't making like the exact right decision every time And yes it like. It's it's coming from a very nancy meyers point of view. Like you said it's very like rich white group of folks that we're dealing with here but like the movie. I think handles itself well enough. That like you're willing to kind of overlook for the sake of just like enjoying the story for what it is which doesn't always happen in other very white very like you know upper class stories that they're trying to go for so yeah. Yeah there's you know there's a lot of discussion now. We don't necessarily took me. We're talking about a little bit before we started recording. We don't need to go fully into it. But the the idea of nancy. The legacy of nancy meyers right. And what is it. Mean and like I was thinking about it watching this like thinking about how we can talk about this home for the podcast because like as readings and reviews of the time some negative reviews the holiday on a perfect movie. It's fine if you have some critiques of it but like I was reading. How many people in their reviews dismissed it as a quote unquote chick flick. And i was like i. Yeah i feel like we've kind of retired at phrase for all thankfully But secondly yes. Nancy meyers is unabashedly. Interested in the things that a lot of women are interested in Including aspirational kitchens I love every news. Myers is in like her. Cinematic kitchens are amazing. I have to say Like but at the same time like that's all there and that's true and if you wanna box out in the same like really boring take category that people do like pumpkin. Spice latte days or taylor swift you can. But i think. What's interesting about. Nancy meyers and i think i i. Nancy meyers movie. That i loved was a baby. Boom which is as diane keaton movie where she like leaves. Her big business live in the city behind to move to the countryside. Raise his kid that like that has landed on her lap and she likes starts a baby food company in vermont and like falls in love with local handsome veterinarian. Sam shepherd. I love that movie. But like that's classic myers because it's like okay focusing too much on work as is the case with. Let's say cameron diaz character in movie. She's like that's bad but she's not here to give the messaging of like Oh one just has a career. She's not fulfilled. she needs a man. Newsy mired is like what if you can have its hall. That's what i suggest you have ladies. Is everything for it. Police the kitchen so law with a napkin over his head is out there waiting for your stop cutting movie trailers europe to give that up to move to necessarily they don't make us like hang around for the solution to the long distance issue but like let's assume it doesn't involve cameras retiring from her movie trailer cutting a business on the kids so i also like not to. I don't know over share about my teenage years but like in high school. I was in a very iris situation with an x for like a year. Where like. I had an ex who still very much hung up on. Who had a new girlfriend and me in him. Talk all the time in a way that she obviously didn't know about in like the way that she just like nails that dynamic between that character and like gets iris out of it. I think is just like so well executed. And even if you haven't been in that situation i think that the way that she wrote it was just like it was very well done that. Make sense to me that like that. It like you said like the the ways that she kind of like charts these pads for women that aren't tropy but instead like feel very much like a real life example of how you might navigate like struggling with work life balance or struggling with like self esteem. I think is. It feels very timeless. Which i think is why. It's remarkable in the way that other rahm comes aren't yeah i feel like that's that is the key to related because i've like you could make a political compass with the four protagonists of the film. And i feel like i've been all of their quadrants before and i can't relate to jet setting lifestyle. I can't relate to living in thomas. Kincaid painting or some of that stuff but like yeah the emotional like you know the the the soul crushing thing that irises into the camera alludes to and like the thing The blew my mind is when i was watching like jude. Law tried articulate. The things i was going through as a newly single parent. And it's like yeah. Just like batman bruce wayne dichotomy like i'm a single guy and then i have my i'm doing diapers and there's the scene of work Jude law's like laptop on a bed with the kids passed out all around. That would happen to me all the time i'd be sitting there. Writing code and jacket passed out in my bed. And it's just like yeah. There is some core kernel of relational truth that this movie gets to that. I really love. And i like that. You mentioned sort of the the old wrong common. The neuron com sister. And i were talk about this all the time because we were. We were up in the eighties and nineties in the nineties. Where a real solid time. I think for romcom tom. Hanks meg ryan goodness going on all as we already mentioned incredibly whites but like you know and currently waiting straight but still like some good witty stuff nora. Ephron like doing her her Good work in the nineties. And then the early odds i think we get into this like really weird place around calms where like like halley's a guy in ten days it becomes like really frustrating to me. What happened to the genre. And i feel like it It started really cutting. Its its female leads and also almost like like people were embarrassed to make romcom so they had to make them in a way where Like you hit every trope also Everything is kind of like silly and stupid an awful and that that misunderstanding that bullshit man standing that makes you doubt the intelligence of every single person involved. The film hate that though Though i agree. I think this movie especially the way in which interacts with like old screwball comedies of of hollywood and like makes direct allusions to those jobs it feel very timeless classic and of of just taking taking this genre. What if we took the genre seriously guests like the e undercutting is a little bit in there because she's got the troop of the trailer voice over into like inject some some Snark into it but I agree with you. I love to give this foam as as a bridge between A solid times in romcom and apache times around you. I the other thing i like is because the one thing that always kinda turned me off at ron comes because you know like comedy and romance is like the dudes and rom coms even when they're protagonist heroes are fools and i've always seen them such like how in the world can you know this this this guy who's just like i dunno. I could talk about the problems. In rom coms their legion third dumb. They do all the small stuff wrong. And they go for broke with these giant dramatic Displays the kind of wind. Things over demonstrate. They've changed and i was like okay. Six months later these people are broken. Broken up a divorce because he's reverted back. I actually if i had like nieces or nephews that were like hey you know what. What do i look for for for guys that. Actually kinda know what they're doing in iran calm. I'd be like jude. Law and jack black are two different types of guys you can be and be very successful two ladies. Although i think jack black needs a real it in about twenty percent jude law's a perfect angel. This movie i really watching them close like i. it's been twelve. It's been like fourteen years. Jude law you probably gonna fuck up. Here he really doesn't he commits no fouls Yeah you guys agree with jude. Law's like you know like did he. Does he community Party thousand this or consent is there as far as i can tell you know what i mean Yeah moment trump getting counters. Where you're like. I'm watching you. I did yeah. Yeah relation tweet. oh shit what. If this goes who is fine l. His character even go so far. It's like say like. I don't believe it's appropriate as the captain america pose. And but you know. I let that was. There was one part. Sorry there's a this most recent. I'm watching through and i don't recall. Redoing them before because they're part where she comes down after she is had like a very night and she finds her bra hanging out the chair and he goes like i had nothing to do with that. And she's like yeah. You're here and he goes. Yeah i was great deliver. I'm like you skate. The line of not being perverted. But just being like. I enjoy being here for that I sure yeah like perfect angel but like you know With with you know the the attractive amount of scam to him. You know what i mean. So and he gives no one thing. I was gonna say the one thing that you would like. Maybe ding him for is like not telling her upfront that he has children but then like as soon as you find that out and then his subsequent explanation for it like right hewlett. You're not going to hold that against. It makes sense why he didn't tell her so. Yeah that's actually. What i was going to jump into say is like like i think that the the movie stars the manufacturer that drama but again they sit and have a talk about it and they're like. Oh yeah that actually makes sense. You don't want a parade in those amount of women in and out of your kid's life but you also want to have a healthy relationship and you just go and be like children at the bar. I have just like yeah. It's it's it's good. Also jude law gives so many shades of daddy look. He's got the rumpled professor with glasses. He's got the hot doctor who with the scar. He's got you know man about town. Look he's got the actual daddy daddy in the princess. Bread bed with with that can face like jude. Law is a lotta a lotta masculine goals in this movie. I i'm depending. I mean i feel like it was the last you know i feel like every year holiday makes its rounds on twitter and i feel like last year the real moment. That made the rounds. Was you log going. I am daddy. And like i mean a lot on twitter last week that they're like yeah you are Yeah and i mean when i when i was. I'm sure you like. Kim said he was into the commentary central. She's a lot more insights. But i did a did some cursory interview readings. I just thought it was interesting. That like the characters. Kate winslet's character cambodia's character and jack lies characters. Were all written for them. Like for those actors and do the only one where like wasn't written for him though they lake a workshop. Sound like they worked the character a little bit as they were making the film And so i'm curious. Like cincinnati myers had other people those other three actors in mind lake. I was wondering i was like. Did you write this someone else in mind. And they pass on like was supposed to be hugh grant or something like that and like couldn't get hughes so they went for jude lake. And who else could i see in that role and like hugh grant when wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be right. So i don't know like i didn't know that. Yeah that's that's news to me and that is really interesting. Because like i only got through like i want to say the first thirty minutes of my my tunes extras commentary lodge and i got up to the scene where amanda and caught in the movie not jude. Grim grant graham random where they meet for the first time and she was like this was a really tricky scene. Because you have to sell that. She wants to have sex with him within like. It's like an eight minute scene or something and it goes from them like meeting for the first time to her propositioning him and she was like it was really tricky to pull off. And i'm like there are very few men that you could convince me of that. Easily with aside from jude law. Like being like drunken and charming in your living room by surprise like. I don't think that that would have worked as well. I mean maybe he maybe he grant. I don't know so. That is really fascinating. Because i don't know how many other actors i think nancy meyers real amazing. Things is though she's able to. She really thinks about the situations like i want this to happen. How can i engineer at the where. That's going to feel like a natural thing you know. He's iris's brother and they have this relationship and he's i i'm not sure does so does grim live in the same town. She does which case. What's that relationship. Like when i goes into the the pub's agai your brothers slapping around again this weekend. So i'm like you know like you come in the coming to her town. The kind of you know muddy up the waters and cause a bunch of drama but the foul. So he's got a cow. He's got a cow his backyard. Did you guys hear that in the movie. Just one cow or his parents watching the cow as well as the girls sacred. Cows don't i- cows don't take care of themselves. I do know that they have to be cared for on a daily basis in the commentary In the commentary. Nancy meyer said that they created this back story for like why. Iris doesn't live in london. Proper is because of graham's wife dying and that like she was living in london in like an apartment but she moved back to cut swells after his wife died so that she could help him like karen. Okay because i was like that is such a commute lake. It's it's like only like forty minutes but like in london by train. Like i was like. That's the one thing about them. Well i'm sure there's a few but like a smile exactly. But i'm like this this woman who seems like she burns them in oil lights in her journalism. Job then takes a forty minute train the countryside overnight but I like that. I like that back story. That's cute yeah that i love their chemistry to the my one of my favorite scenes. And it's funny because jim hated this. He didn't think it worked at all. But when they're having a three way conversation where. Amanda are kind of like trying to sniff each other out an iris kind catches up but then she keeps man. It's the third beat where she's like you know comes back. I can't believe she's still me. I love that so much and it's feels very much like what a brother and sister would do because that on the face of it seem like outrageous behavior on his on his part. Yeah well that's the thing about this care about the character. Graham who like regular shows up drunk to his sister's pottage sleeps around with women on the weekends and sleeps with the woman whose staying at his sister's cottage and you're still a more still all three of us sitting here agreeing that he's a perfect angel which he like is 'cause he's daddy i have you. He is thing like i maintained that like the the thing. Most dudes do wrong in being a man a man slut is you start telling lies as long as you don't tell me lies. E don't usually get a huge blow up vicious reaction. You can kind of like do that thing. And looking jude. Law doesn't hurt but like you know he he's. He's not trying to convince women that he loves them forever and ever and most beautiful. He's just like you know he's he's a good looking guy. They're good looking girl and they can do fun things together. It's complicated either way. Why not have the sex. You know that's can phone call scene because it's one of a few things that like i think makes watching it really fun. Which is like these little like technology quirks. That could only have happened in like two thousand six like mid-2000s era movie and it's like the phone like the three-way like you're not feeling like you press like the the fucking home and blind button in the correct way and then also just like the whole lake home exchange website like that little lake house shaped window that pops up when they're typing and i'm like every time i watch and i'm like i forgot. The airbnb has only been around for like what eight years. Maybe like seven years. And so i just love that like at the time it was so novel and like multiple characters comment on it within the movie Like do people really do that. It's like now like the idea of like renting out your home on airbnb is just like the home of on airbnb me. It's not just the like it's not just her cottage on airbnb. It's like watch my and can use my car if you wanna figure out how to drive on the other side of the road etc lake swap. Everything i'm like. That's a lot when you get to town. Just just start. Just start drinking wine out of the bottle and add that to your whole driving experience on the wrong side road like okay. Okay red flag. That's one red flag. We've got one pill flag on the movie endorse that that Drunken driving the dominion the wrong side of the road. That's fair that's fair. And then when you said jack needs to take like twenty percents off the top or whatever like yeah. I think well i mean they. They lampshade at least a little bit when he kisses her goodbye. Or whatever he's like. I made it weird like every years. He's like you're beautiful. And you're like okay and jack's seems like one of those capital in capital g. Nice guys it's working on it you know. Yeah he's aware that like. Oh this is actually the opposite of what i'm trying to do. Because the perfect the thing that makes me cringe. The most is when he's actually. I mean. this is like a home run by jack black standards. He's guy you know he. He wrote this theme for their older gentleman friend. And she's like charmed and then he's like also i wrote something that's a little bit like you and like he's charming the shit out of her but he's uncomfortable at that moment so he deflects it was screw to lithuania dislike. It's of not a man. Just you just wrote a song and you. You've had charmed or half out pants to seal the deal. You screwed early poo. And you're gonna be you're gonna wind up. She's going to think that you don't like her. You know and so yeah. That's the that's the one thing i think. He twenty percent less scrutiny. Poo in highly romantic situations he'd get off. That's the part of the movie that my husband like hates the most like every time that we get really close to the screw do topsy guy the guy crash and burn like that. You know the enforced errors. It's really it's really hard. I like so when i watched this movie. I was a little frustrated that it was like the cameron diaz jude law pairing and it felt like they were putting that that kate winslet in jack black felt like a mismatch. Like if felt like the movie was trying to say. Winslett is like the frumpy friend or something like that. When kate winslet is like a complete smoke show and And then you know as i've as i've watched it We should have to say that like hot. Women couldn't fall in love with jack black. Obviously but as just sort of like. I the hollywood like pairing off standards. Whatever but like you know you watch it more than you. Pay more attention to la while ex character. Arthur being like you're treating yourself like your best friend. You're not you're the leading lady and so it's not a movie about cameras and like frumpy english girl. It's like two ladies finding what is going to make them. Happy as in this life and For kate winslet's character for iras. It's being roussel. Who is you're so right. Both of behavior is just so identifiable the the person who keeps you on the back burner. I know that feeling like so well. And just sort of like cutting that out putting that toxicity out of your life and finding someone who's just gonna be like complicated -ly adoring of you in a way that you absolutely deserve Yeah that storyline is really grown on me a lot and the other than you kinda makes it all right in. My mind is like most likely. These are all rebound relationships. Like they're all getting out of long-term relationships jude law's wife just died jack. Black's girlfriend is brutally bro. So like these are nice. People that will help you feel better about themselves. Maybe it turns into something long-term no. I don't think anyone gets hurt at the you know like no one's gonna know it's going to know is going to hurt anybody in these relationships and that's that's okay. It doesn't have to be from this movie so much. And you also don't see this as a happily ever after. I kinda love that theory like happy new year enjoy. Your new year may or may lose forum. I'm just saying that like you know. It doesn't yeah it doesn't have to. It doesn't have to convince me that this is happily ever after beyond the fantasy kitchens and everything else. Let's talk about the most unrealistic aspect of this movie. Which is the two week timeline. My god kate winslet gets a you know offer. Yeah but irish. Get arthur to walk in a montage which i think consists of a day freight and then like july saying i love you like you know they. They've they've hooked up twice. She met the kids. Then i love you. And i'm like body. It's been not even two weeks yet. Like oh my goodness so I i have some questions about this kind of tried to track it. I was like how many days in are we. How many days do we have. She's like i'm leaving an eight days. I was like okay. I can do this. Math doesn't work I mean it's a it's a holiday fantasy. It's yeah which again i think is a is a nancy meyers testament to how she she is able to sell it. Despite like the logic break their of like will they know her for like four days but heave. He's a major. We couldn't get over it. I say that all too many times. That and god jack black's really the screwy. Do i do to my husband. And sometimes i just wanna show has worked. Its way into my brain with the compressed timeline. Iris is not a qualified physical therapist for ninety year. Old person like that scene where she like kicks his cane away and like what if he falls and breaks his hip. Iris like can she get. This guy rehabilitated to walk downstairs from his decrepit state in a week or two like who get sued if he breaks his hip or if he drowns in that pool. Is she strong enough to get him out of the pool. If that happens are their life preservers. I had a lot of. I had a lot of questions about The the nature of her unlicensed. Hell hell home health aid stuff. She's doing for this guy. When jack black is lake Great for the fiftieth time. Or whatever and she's like thanks have been working on with arthur for forty eight hours. Is this a forty eight hour glow of swimming with a ninety year old. That's awesome okay. yeah i i I wanted to talk a little bit about It's this film's treatment of hollywood. That's something that. Nancy meyers likes to put in if her Her romances like a critique of industry or something like that and how you guys feel like this movie treats like you know classic. Hollywood or like what cameron diaz does in terms of like the modern way to sela shit lindsay lohan dunes. Franko movie Like in what it. What is trying to say about that. I think that I've often remarked. It's really hard to show a competence like a really keen competence at something. When you are not in. Like i'm nancy meyers movie director right. She doesn't cut movie trailers like in lost. You know you're supposed to believe this guy's got a hit song in the hit. Song sucks or like men dare you are. Everybody is a jam. Are you gonna die on this hill. Joanna everybody's gonna die on the hill it doesn't have great versus but true unless you is fine are anyway. Go ahead like on madman. You've got to believe all these pitches are like world-class pitches. Even though it's like i think. I see some holes in this pledge. You know thing that you're putting up here done actually think that the movie trailer the fake movie trailer is like good bad in like a funny and clever kind of way and i don't know why but the conceit of her life being broken down into various genres movie trailer really works for me and in the thing that i thought it was an old high with new. Hollywood like I watched this in two thousand twenty. And what's the guy. The guy's name is arthur. Yeah okay when. Arthur climbs up there and i'm like a good for you arthur. And he immediately goes on angry. Get off my lawn. Movies are only about the money now and it's like wait a second. I've done some research on the golden age. Hollywood arthur and i'm pretty sure you're foolish it and you know it's but i don't know because like i kinda think we is there. Is there ever been a better time for film and just kind of like visual arts in general than the last decade and i don't know maybe that that's more a twenty twenty than a twenty two thousand six make hollywood grade again. No i 'cause like arthur. I think since the last time. I watched the holiday. I've spent more time like studying old hollywood listening to more episodes of congress. You must remember this and like knowing the state of affairs in old hollywood so when she's when ours was like tell me on. That was hollywood. Really like as wonderful. He's like better. And i'm like no come on dude. He was he was a very. It's always been a very toxic place You know I understand from your perspective. It was better because you were like king of of the scripts In your day. As i like that. But yeah i was like was it was it. Arthur was it was better then. I don't know he didn't see women he didn't see all of the casting couch stuck it. He's a one you know. You married his childhood sweetheart. Never never looked in any direction. Went went home at five o'clock after writing right his oscar winning scripts and just you know he saw was the glow and the glamour and glitz. Right yeah yeah. I super agree with with that point. I think i think the reason why his story works really like emotionally well on me is like the the idea of like like the one threat of that that i think might be. Accurate is under appreciation for writers. I think that like for me growing up watching movies. I was barely aware of like individual directors. Being a thing let alone like the people who are writing the movies that i love so much so that the way that irish like goes into his house and he has like a sad like microwave dinner tray and like his oscar getting like dusty in the corner of the room like literally. Nobody but this caregiver who's like giving like walking around the neighborhood with him every day like talks to any more is sad. And that's why like when the doors opened in a room full of people at giving him a standing ovation. I just like it makes me cry. Like almost every time that i watched it because the idea of somebody who like genuinely did have an impact on people's lives whether it was like writing an iconic line in a movie or something going most of his life a little like the radar and then having like a final moment of blink. Ono people are not only very aware for you are but they've put together this whole thing for you. I think still still hits. But the the larger message of yelich Great again is fit. Not it. I think it's the specific writer aspect. Maybe that were especially says. I feel like arthur catfish is the audience a little bit because he is this like you know this is a is this old guy and he's kind of in for and he's battling early stages of senility and he's all alone. No one appreciates him simultaneously. He lives in a mansion. He has a home health. Aide that lives with them. He has the old awesome jewish dude card card game nights. All they're like like when alesi. It's like wait. Arthur sandbagging s. I feel like you've had a pretty rock in life. And maybe you just say you know what i got. This young girl and maple improved both of ourselves esteems and does out dial up the old guy a little bit and we'll have a meet cute here because that's nothing after pulling the old lost in my own neighborhood con young woman in the neighborhood classes. The other thing that i just learned in the commentary was like straight out of nancy buyers life. Apparently like she said that the neighborhood she was living in like was populated with a lot of people who like lived in houses that their spouses had built in like the twenties and thirties or forties. And that there were these like old like writer early neighbors who she would like see around the block every once in a while so i think maybe that maybe like the incongruence there is that it was like that initial meeting was like nancy. Meyers kind of like romanticizing. A thing that existed in her life but she like actually wrote in this back story for like an old man that she didn't actually know in real life but she also said that she does that movie trailer thing in her head sometimes like that's why she wrote that in for cameron diaz as character because she was like and the same thing with every book that was like the books that cameron diaz his character brings with her on the plane that she likes still doesn't read. Those were all books that were actually on nancy. Meyers book list. That she had either like to read like never finish or just had never gotten around to damn so came. It's almost like there's a half a self insert of you know. She herself in half and made to heroines. Out of it Yeah that's i mean. That's what i was reading his interview. And she said that. Nancy sees herself as both an irs and a manda at lake shia. She split her two sides into the studio for women. Everything that i thought was interesting. In terms of like the character's being written for them like cameron diaz. Nancy meyers about the character. Manda like it being like a goldie hawn type and that she thought cameras is like the perfect Nancy meyers made pirate. Benjamin which is like goldie. Hawn's like one of her most iconic roles like that and so she was like i wanna goldie hawn type and kennedy is the perfect person for that may sense to me. And then she was like for kate. Winslet and jack black. She's reading a bit against hype for what they've done before. Like jack black with i. Guess sincerity of it and For kate winslet like up until then had done mostly period pieces etc And both of them. All three of them july caitlyn slid dot black express like extreme insecurity these roles because they were like not the kind of roles they done before whereas cameron diaz this all day. This is my house exactly. I think that's interesting amazing. I would've never thought they were felt that way about the maybe jack black. I could see all the that cast him coming and be like what the fuck of my doing here because you know just just because of how different experience was but was inspired to cast him after school of rock apparently like she saw a threat of that. Like sincerity like end. She said specifically the way that he interacted with kids felt like really like us like tender but like he liked clearly had like a like relationship with them. That felt really sincere that she thought meant that he could translate that into a relationship with a woman on screen that we had seen him. Try to do before I can see that. I watch school. Rock rock with year actually like a few months ago. I figured it would. I remember really liking the and the ad the relationship he has with the principal doesn't quite isn't quite leading man leading lady type type. That is even worse. Is it even a relationship. Kinda remember like not. I don't remember. I i feel like it's a hookup. This is more about her like learning to let go than it is about their like genuine connection or something. Yeah the only standout. I literally just rewatching only seen is like the bar scene where he gets her drunk and she likes things to stevie nicks and like yeah like gets her like let loose a little bit. But it's not really heavy on like he's actively trying to seduce her. It's more like you know. Let your hair down kind of thing. Because she's like she's like i've I've been really button-down all my life. I've never. I've never tried it with a guy who lives in a van. Why not why. And apparently created under review. I read that like kate. Winslet it nancy meyers gave gave bulk. It was in july a stack of like screwball. Nineteen thirty nineteen forties into comedies to like study like kate winslet. It was like his girlfriend and philadelphia story or For july actually. It was like a lot of kirk. Clark gable meets wasn't really screwball. Comedy guy like a lot of clark gable was what she was going forward. You lodge is interesting. I don't think he quite. God clark gable but like what he got was great so it doesn't matter but but yeah it's It feels like she was really trying. She's really trying in her way. To make a script that arthur the earth there would rates those kinds of characters within the exception being back blacks character where she was like little tired of all. The league is having to look like jude law. So like let's let's let a jack black type in here because this is a great guy. This is a great guy to love a date and like let's let's Let's bring that in here so I at more. I watch this movie the more i love this movie and i'm so glad that you liked it then. I'm so glad you want to talk to us about. It makes me really happy. It does. I feel like that. Like chick flick like assignment to movies. Like this so unfortunate. Because like like i said me and my husband watched every year and he has found so many things to lebanon. And it's like it would make me sad if a lot of men are missing out on genuinely lovely movie experience just because they think it's too i don't know lady oriented some of them. 'cause i've gotten some early feedback on the club offering that they Like I'd say like a good twenty. Five percents feedbacks come in watch the holiday and i it. It's okay but it's kinda just like he kind of and it's not. I'm not saying that this is great cinema. It's just like if you're looking for christmas rom coms that are fun. I there's there's there's there's this and there's love actually which two of the plotlines lines make me angry. Three of them make me sad and two of them are mike okay. This is kind of uplifting and it's got a heart or it's drek like the christmas prince which it's it's fun to get hammered and mystery science theater three thousand. The hallmark offering does your but but like there's not a lot where like you just like you and also this is a long ass movie this is like a two and a half hour fellowship of the ring kind of and it never kit. That's the i would say. It could lose like fifteen minutes probably something like that. But maybe that's around the fact that i washed it with hulu with ads and so i was like watching this movie a little bit the deficit glenn one like tried to pressure dancing buyers and trimming things again. I'm sorry that i keep going back to his commentary i. She said that she almost cut the scene. Where cameras a singing to the killers. Mr side and i'm like no. I need that sixty seconds in my life. That's the only way that i sing that song now. Like i have scream. Saying mr writes a wedding before like in the exact intonation cameron diaz does like really off key. And i'm like if you understand that reference. We are automatically best friends because it. She's everything did she say in her commentary that she sent cameron diaz and video of herself singing it i was reading an interview that cameron diaz gave a vulture. Just this like you know this. Last nancy meyers tribute cycle about how nancy meyers center. A video of that she's doing nancy meyers scene. And it's center a video of her singing into a bottle. Like thing of her clorox wipes taught my god and like is just doing exactly what nancy meyers it so I was going through with a fine tooth comb. And it's move. You wanna watch and cut here. And there's a couple of things that are superfluous. Like i guess her dancing and but like the staring contest with the dog. I like all that stuff like that. Scene should not work but cameron diaz is just super cute. And so is the dog and nancy meyers gets a little bit of a performance from this thing and it's a yeah it's like forty five seconds. I wouldn't wanna see out of the movie honestly Maybe i would cut them. Log india's in the garden lunch which is essentially a montage. It's very silly. And this most recent time. I had like a really fun time imagining. What the humans jude log cameron diaz did to like make each other laugh or whatever during this leg. Kind of silly thing that they had to do this you know. Well so it's it's because I find that this stuff. I love the most. What i really like dune is nitpicking. It you know like anything that really passionate like i love like and one of the big flaws. Well one of the small flaws in this movie is the three musketeers concept itself it strains my credit credibility that both of these people would have this three musketeers. Kind of like name for themselves. Maybe not but the thing that really. I do not believe one hundred percent. No way the torius sweep jude law. Here's her drop the three musketeers. The thing that him and his daughters have going on right now in the shadow of his dead wife and doesn't immediately lose it in the middle of a restaurant just fleas running big giant anime tears shooting out of his space. No way there's no way near yours. You're cheating your savings for a late reveal and there's no fucking way that situation would happen. You are totally correct. Completely right. want to go back to the chick flick thing for a second. If i can me i was. I was just having this conversation Another podcast is doing about the upcoming shawna. rhyme show. britain was going to be on netflix. Mus which is based on a romance novel and basically the door for basically the mcu romance novels on netflixif. She decides to do so. Because it's all interconnected this whole series and stuff like that and What chon rhymes is doing with that show and with her entire body work is i think legitimizing something that women have been made to feel. Ashamed of. Lay romance novels healing. My grandma used to read a romance novels. Like a slip. Cover over the like cover of the people couldn't see what she was reading. Women often keep those books like back before kindle Or whatever women would like keep those books like behind behind other books on their bookshelves and stuff. Like that. and sean arrives like guess. What enjoy it. It's fun and fine and you can enjoy it. And i think we're in a real space right now you know like similarly when harry styles says stuff like people are like keesing harry styles for the fact that he has so many young women who love him and he's like young women have great taste. I'm really honored to have a monte. Young women is my fans like they're awesome. That's great In so league. Eight when i think of people Dismissing this film or any other film that is sorted from a female point of view I think You know the business idea in hollywood. Is this idea. i'm no. I'm not telling you anything you don't really know. But this idea of like the four quadrant of like ages and genders. That and this idea in hollywood the prevailing idea in hollywood which has been true. Is that women will go see oems marketed to men but men won't go see films marketed to women and And as a result assure bed because women have been trained Over the decades to relate to the male point of view. Because that's what we've been served and so You know the safer bet in hollywood then is to create content. That's male point of view is then you can get a two you can get men and women and So you can get you can get women to go see you know. Marvel movies Before marvel movies had leads But you can't get managed to go see Bolaise cameras movie. I guess and In the fact that that is changing and shifting longest felt like. I find it very healing that you came to us with this for could actually was worried that it would seem like. Oh i'm going to review this romcom. Let me get the ladies of podcasting weirdly demeaning that way and i was. I'm so glad to hear you say that it was really lovely. I thought so. Yeah yeah agreed. I think that we should be long past the time. In which people assume that stories about women are specific versus universal. But we're not. And in the meantime grateful that like there are writers directors out there like nancy meyers God i think all the time about the line and gerwig 's little women adaptation where she specifically has her characters have the conversation about like our stories about women's lives important or like the like domesticity of women's lives like nobody cares about that. And then amy kind of comes back and she says well. I think that by writing about them. You make them important like you. Elevate them to that level. And it's very true. And i do think like even like little like to circle talking about like scenes that you could have turned from the spooky but like cameron diaz wandering around a house by herself. Getting drunk and being goofy is like a moment in a characters life that like. You don't always see in movies in that you don't always see with women in movies and it's like cut that out ensure the rest of the movie will make sense but like it adds a little bit of like of just like reliability and like fundus. I think to a character that could otherwise be taken as like a very like self serious like i own my own company. I worked too much character type of thing you know. I think i think the trick. That ac myers on this movie is like you're ruining ian like i'm rooting for each couple. I'm rooting for irs. And i can't remember lex characters name miles right. Socio irish the miles and ingraham. I'm rooting for them. I like i like them together. That's great. I just great great stuff but you know to. Your point is like if they don't end up together that's okay that doesn't mean this journey as a validated because his journey isn't about these two women the right guy who's going to fulfil them. It's about you know sorry to use a really or not for self actualize in great like figuring out what they want. What's healthiest for them. And even if it is not forever these dudes. They are on a path to make healthier choices and they were making it the start of the film nuts. That's the nancy meyers trick. That she does a lot of romances is like there's a romance. You're rooting for it. But it's not like the the characters future happiness is not inge on is person forever. That's a really good point the fact that it like these men don't come and fix them What happens is they have a. They have a realization about themselves or like a genuine moment of personal growth. Like her throwing off. Jasper is played like frodo ridding himself up the rain. I am no longer naked before the wheel of jasper like having this out of body experience and like that's what it really feels like when you finally realize this is horse shit. I've been gas this whole time. I've been used have an abused. And i'm just done with you. I've broken the spell and then they can go on to enjoy these. These these nice relationship to the jack black and jude law but yeah and and honestly. That's why i think it's kinda unique amongst rom coms that they you know they always. It's the girl completes the guy the guy completes the girl you have to make major changes in like your behavior and lifestyle rather than how you think in view things Whereas this thing is all about like yeah self respect perspective self-esteem and how loving yourself is the key to tavern positive relationships with other people. I love that photo comparison. That's so funny The the the the the thing that shot to my mind time watching it is one of my all time. Favorite cinematic moments When jennifer connelly sarah at the end of labyrinth turns to david bowie's jer je goes have no power over me and it's just like boom. Jasper he just like exploded to me. Visas take away their power. You have the power to take away their power over you and i love. I love that moment. The hot the hans zimmer score that kicks in when she raises her arms and then like there's like a moment of silence and it's like it's like i love. I love the spinners. This is it also like jasper shows. Like because i think jude law's got a positive like depiction of being kind of honest relationship. You know like you don't have to advertise your flaws and stuff especially in the beginning when everybody's gonna just banging until you defined relationship right. I think that's how most people operate but like jaspers shows like this toxic side of honesty. Where he tells her exactly what's going on. You know like he's like oh you know i'm just he. He describes everything in in terms of like orbiting around him like. Oh i'm just so confused about the situation. I want you to love you but i also want this and like that's i think mistaken for a lot of people when you hear that for the first time as like oh this person being real odyssey as being trustworthy when they're actually weaponising it they're like making. Yeah they're crazy state of mind your fucking problem right. Yeah the. I think you're the first one to use the term gas late in this and that's exactly it's like a classic gas lighting thing. Where like the facts are true. But he's not being emotionally honest with her and he certainly not being respectful of her emotions or considered of her emotions at all whatsoever and so just sort of about his active and then the the trick of the gas later is then they have like plausible deniability bay bird. I you know i. I never said that. I was going to like leave her. Like whatever you know. I i never said that i was honest from the start. You're just like sorry. I'm getting i'm getting like why are you trying to complicate it. Close complicated round hole. We need more. Kate winslet impersonations from kim renfro into like to recite the entire movie for my favorite. Irs line is definitely when she says like when he's like what's gotten into you and she's like i don't know but i think it's something resembling gumption. There's something i really find some slight cornelius to stay really find appealing like You know she like all that all that like Heroic stuff really speaks to her. You can tell. And i find that some of the best type of people that like really identify with the corner aspects of protagonist and heroes. I like i like kate. Winslet's comedy crying That like features through the beginning of the movie. She's like hey horrible life and she's just like crying in typing and it's that's some classic comedy from her. She wasn't she wasn't a comedian for this movie. I think after this is when she film that episode of says where she plays herself and she's so funny But i can she. She hadn't gotten a chance to be like really you know on non jane austen funny In before this movie so yeah that's more of a droll yeah What else do we want to. Because the before. I let you guys go. I want to get Everybody's holiday entertainment recommendations either an old favorites or something fresh. But also i don't want to hasten this conversation about the holiday do we have some more ammo and again. Unless we wanna talk about hans. Zimmer te spending havoc. I will say this. I wish this movie was twenty. Five percent more christmasy do not i mean like maybe one or two more christmas standards. Maybe a little bit more prominent christmas decoration. I mean don't get me wrong. We we're this isn't like a hanging on its fingernails christmas movie. But like i felt like i needed a couple. More jingle bell rock playing in the jukebox of the pump. Or just as something just like twenty five percent more christmasy. I hear you and i agree with you. He said it needs to be out there. I think especially when like half of it takes place in in los angeles any mean maybe the los angeles half is the hannukah movie and like the like the uk. Half as the christmas eve. But yeah like Yeah i agree with you. I'm trying to think of anything like that You like we're sharing like we're divorced. Parents were like you know trying to like. Hey you know. I'm a christian but your mom's and jewish i should say when you go to california you can do hanukkah and that's okay when you come back here we've got. Yeah i liked it. The movies just fifty fifty split that vacationing. I will say that. Yeah like a amandus. House decorated nor desirous decorated. And that seems right me. Maybe i would get a tree while she's there or something like that but like Dude laws house the amount of garlands and wreaths on that house bananas forgot there is like an olive centric wreath on made his front door because the win win door busters face. There is like a like an olive bay leaf wreath situation but yeah jude law's houses like christie's exploded in there so what you're saying is me to spend more time in july house and i agree with you is that tent is goals. The kitchen is goal like the most aspirational kitchen in. This movie does not actually belong in the la house which is amazing. It's dulas kitchen where you know hot cocoa with many marshmallows happen. I think that's the surprise kitchen of this. Nancy meyers phone. I got to say if i had to spend my time in just one I love irises house like that. Like everything's just like small and in cozy and like you. Can you can stir a pot in the kitchen while you're sitting on the couch with your dog watching television and everything's just kind of like almost like it's like living in it's living in house kinda love it. There's something about the coffee mugs like that. There are like exactly six coffee mugs hanging from like a little hook. The wind graham goes. I'm like i want. I want this life. If if for a little bit me it's The blankets in the cabin on top of the game. Or whatever like or extra blankets or in the cabinet on top of the perfect cosy moment. I think soya to a cottage in the cost the head to build that. When i was devastated when i found out that cottage wasn't real. I was like yeah. They built it. Oh wow peter. Jackson hobbiton. That makes a lot of sense actually. 'cause you almost don't believe there's a house that adorable still. In the twenty first century. They also apparently had to build in that. The grocery store. Amanda goes to in drinks illegally. The middle of walsh's shopping. Nancy was like we had to that was like a candle store and they had to convert it into a grocery store. She was like because the local was like a seven eleven. She's like those like cutesy little like looking small town stores. Were actually there. And she invented when i was like well. Thank you because it added greatly to my dream of what it would look like. If i moved to a remote now english village jesus is really really loved. Us chewed design an entire immunity somewhere or you can rent the houses. They all have amazing kitchens in them and then chile or chile. Create the downtown. So it's like you know it'll be like myers landers lake Lake dolly part. What is it call. Yeah yeah backyard. Last week nice nays. I've always wanted to go to dollywood. But like myers land also it would probably be by the ocean and every kitchen will be fabulous. You could read. Dow's then go shopping downtown. Fuck the star. Wars land gotta disney. We need a nancy meyers land. And you can. You can choose your own adventure. Do you wanna go with the cozy cottage or do you want to go to the sleek ultramodern self darkening windows with the intimidating. Soundsystem like yeah. I love her. Actually whoa that's intense When you read to house and you have no idea how to use it like ten remotes. Five screens i do. Her staff is just surreptitiously like there. The back like i. this is probably the for. I don't know speaks to me or whatever but the first time i noticed that Like her house like a mandate housekeepers there at the hanukkah. Cleaning up after the hanukkah. Dinner like i reason. I always imagined i always thought irish. Just like whip that together and then there's like a woman in the background dry. The glasses and i was like she had help with the briskets. I see i see the the last. Take on arming to share with you on the holiday. Is you know. It's a good movie when they toss away. Don krinsky and kathryn hahn at the beginning of the movie and they're just there. Yeah is here. I am very early on in kozinski. Work This is like i think i did the research and last podcast. This John on the office for season office in this movie simultaneously. So this is his career taking off and then husband and everything. Like first thing i remember. Is that like her hard-charging lawyer parks and rec. But like yeah. This is kind of like their launch pad for through those presents. He's in another nancy. Meyers movie Get out one with being sarcastic. No i say guys. Let's not get out a narrow meryl streep and alec baldwin steve martin which also features malia. Something's gotta give dunno. It's complicated. yes it's complicated. Something's gotta give his anc hedin. Jack nicholson and a great kitchen. This is meryl streep steve martin alec baldwin and a great kitchen and jonkers game pressure. Plays her unin law or her son. He's great in that movie. It's a great. I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that one right. Yeah we'll work our way through the The nancy. I yeah yeah yeah the in. Mu so did you have any last thoughts on holiday before we transitioned into holiday. Rechose kim okay. Who wants to go first. Who's got the dynamite christmas recommendation. For us i mean. You've seen claus on netflix x. Have seen claus. And i mean it means it's an amazing take on the santa santa mythos that is what's my favorite like most recent addition to my like holiday movie rotation for sure it's so beautifully animated and i do love that it's like it's just such a different take on the san origin story and it's not it doesn't it like leans into christmas but not too much and the score is really great. I just. I love that movie. I was gonna say. How do you feel about the christmas. Chronicles speaking of like netflix's contribution to santa claus. Like i didn't like love it but it was definitely. It's it's worth watching. If you just want like a new christmas movie to see i guess. I mike my calibrations are screwed up because i have the kids in my life that like it's kind of nice to have almost marvel cinema santa claus you know he's like big and brass and he's got like kevlar outfit armor on and he can do in the second. He's got magic spells. You can cast. I think it's it's cool and kurt russell goldie hawn's be gonna have so much fun in this like the sequels. Not as good as the first one. I did but i still like it. Because they're having so much fun and goldie hawn gets to be a really bad ass mrs claus. I just watched it for the first time. Like i watch both him for the first time last couple of weeks because a friend of mine works at netflix's lake. Oh for chris chronicles to like bro. I have not seen chris. Looks colonel. one chronicles lynch like you need to. I guess when i watched it. And i was like what but i loved. I loved russell in it. But like everything else i was like not super sold on but i i did. I love i. Love is look. I love everything about him. I like don't really love the cg l's and i'm also astonished by how much of gargoyles to he spent. Speaking elvis sh but i did love i love goldie hawn and the second one. I just love the two of them together. And you're right. They seem like they're having a lot of fun. I just don't want the kids. And maybe that's like bomba of me. I always i'm a sucker for that Like older kid kind of losing hope and that you try but still kind of keep it together for the younger kid because again my mom converted to the witnesses like when i was six so i remember like the first few christmases and then i had the big secret. That must because she came in. Santa claus isn't real. We're not doing this thing anymore. You know didn't find a life. Santa claus is in fact. Real and i was lied to my entire life c. Safe or anybody listening kids here. But i really identify with that like the kid. You know that kind of lost faith in but they still have to kind of keep together and then like how amazing would be if you get that that faith rekindled yeah excessively. She turns into like that cartoon wolf head. It's tongue rolling out and lake howling at the moon anytime kurt russell steps onstage especially when he starts seeing in yeah yeah. Yeah for me I i was tweeting about chris. Christmas content like hallmark net flicks christmas content. An hulu is getting the game now. Is that of lake. We gotta have dust stuff for you to watch right. And i was like complaining about it. And i was like there hasn't been good good holiday stuff along time and then someone brought up close and like i have to concede classes great as fantastic. That wasn't really like an ethics generated. We have to have content. That was like a beautiful artisanal. Spanish animated films. It's It's all part of it. I i tend to like go really old school with my holiday heartwarming preferences. My love it's a wonderful life and I love me and say louie. Which is the. Judy garland film So i tend to go like real and the on the old nostalgia. When i think about the holiday movies i usually watch. It's wonderful life every year. Also and i haven't watched it yet this year. Because i know i'm going to be like inconsolable for like it makes me cry all the time anyway. I feel like this year especially. It's probably going to just like unleash. Some serious emotions than me so i keep like gearing up for like a weekend where i don't have anything to do but the sad mostly devastated by. It's a wonderful life. That's weekend plans in my love that My recommendation is a very murray christmas. Have you guys seen this now. That netflix special. He did a couple of years ago. Yeah back in two thousand fifteen. The conceit is yeah. The conceit is that he's snowed in for the blizzard. They hit new york city and he had this whole celebrity star studded thing and no one could get there so he's got this whole you know he's got paul shaffer and a piano and he's in a tuxedo and the catered all this food and stuff and like he's stuck in his hotel and how's he going to a christmas special work and it is just like cheek stretching and how much it makes me grin because everybody like. I didn't even know before this. Like maya rudolph has like this really famous mariah carey kind of like four octaves singer mother and that she can legit belt meyer. She is amazing and they have so many celebrity cameos that are sometimes playing themselves and sometimes playing my character versions of this theirselves It's just really really cute and bill. It all revolves around bill. Murray's kind of likeable grumpiness surveillance in the face of disappointment. And i hadn't seen it since the first year it came out and i just watched it last week and i'm like this. Is this good. This is good. This feels like You know like like like bringing bringing in a sloppy terrible bad idea of a year in for a landing. And i enjoyed check those out. I think that's the thing that got me like really. Actually like and respect miley cyrus actually. Yeah she's not area she is. She's got she's got some some She does a really good job with it. Everybody does like even like I don't want to like there's there's so many great Celebrity cameos and also the introduced me to a lot of music that i had never heard of before like a lot of like. I kind of like christmas music. There's a little bit melancholy like you know. It's not like one every seven songs or so. You like a little bit of scary ghost stories to go with your tales of the glory right and there's a lot of like bill murray covers of some of that kind of stuff. And then there's like this really funky. Santa claus needs some lovin which is essentially the very grownup Bluesy version of. I saw mommy kissing santa claus Told from i guess dad's perspective i just. I just think it just really really exploded. My my christmas playlist i've given so it's a lot of faith and love that far into that then i need. I need more christmas music and rotation. Yeah yeah i wish man. I wish the i guess you can get the soundtrack if you buy it on a physical cd but it's not unlike any the popular music services because when i wanna watch the last week and i would like these particular versions of and i couldn't find it but well guys. I had a lot of fun talking about the holiday with y'all on this podcast and i wish you both very merry christmas and a very happy new year and i would like for you to take this opportunity to tell any you know the the shout out something. You're proud of from the past year or something really looking forward to a project that you're going to be doing in the new year. Whatever whatever you guys would like the bob move family know about or i'm putting you on the spot and you just went right. Let me to go to the aca. I could do that too. I got this Yeah i in general. i'm still cranking insider. I'm i am honestly proud. That i was able to get any work done this year. Let alone a couple of things. I got done. This year turned out while you can read. I i've been just in the last. I would say like six months. I've just veered until like trying to write about the things that i love as opposed to like before i was sometimes catering to like. What is everybody watching right now. We're like what. Should i be on top of like recently. I wrote a whole thing about like pride and prejudice. I just came out or the fifteen year. Anniversary was this year and i I got to interview the film editor about like specific scene. Where like mr darcy. Flexes his hand after he touches a us all. I saw that the the handwork doing now. A super fun. And so yes you can you can find my writings on. And then i i'm very much just thinking about the next like twenty four hours at a time these days so who knows what twenty twenty will be. But i'm i'm grateful for for this podcast and for both of you and that we get to do things like this and so hopefully we can do more of them. That would be my wish in two thousand twenty one is just more more more pod friends honestly in twenty one of my resolutions. Twenty twenty one. I want to try to reach out to some old buddies and and and bring him on for more covers. Figure out an outlet to have kind of like these one off conversations the about different subjects or whatever. because it's gets boring. would just be gem. What you guys joanna. I actually saw a big big exciting announcement from you today. Honestly i did today announced that for the past year and a half or so My friend and often podcast co host. Dave gonzales and i have been working on a marble history We've been interviewing a ton of people for that So that is something to look out for in like twenty twenty two so provided still in the oven bacon rich of you to assume we will be here and twenty two anyway. We've been working for a long time. We will be working on it for a long time after. But that is something that has been preoccupying me for a while But i'm slovenia fair Writing over there. I late maybe for your listeners. They'd be most interested in the fact that one of the pockets of for vanity fair's called still watching and starting in january. We're gonna be covering Marvel disney plus show wanda division which. I'm really excited for that. Looks really fun. And i'm bringing in two of my the f. colleagues richard lawson and anthony braxton to cover like old tv history angle. I think will be a really fun to talk about with one division and the comic book angle Both of them are welcome. If i talk about that. So we're gonna do like a fun sort of podcast. This pod crossover event for one division in january. Twenty twenty one. And i'm really looking forward. That's cool. I have no idea what to make of wanda vision. All gonna swing through together you know it. Looks like such a a wild project So is really interesting to me that they were supposed to launch marvel on disney plus with you know falcon winter soldier which is much more straightforward. We understand what that is And leonelli dudakovic but also actually do to from what i've heard. I the scenes issues with felt like trying to get your soldier right. He had to move on division. So i just kind of like love that they're launching of the wanna vision which looks so bonkers. You know what i mean and it's just sort of like it's a nice that that's going to be the debut so we're not going to be like okay. I get it. You're just doing like aptx america on tv. We've seen this kind of stuff. It's like no we're gonna do want vision if you're not if you've never read a comic book strap industry because it can get super weird Here we go. And i'm excited for that will cool. Are the those sound really really cool projects. And i'm definitely keep a myers to grand keep tabs on it. i do. we can do something in the in the new year. actually got. I really wanted to talk. I wanted to get with kim on mandalorian but like the because you know. She was the world's foremost expert on baby. Yoda all for the last season. There you guys should get. She's she's rapid on christmas sweater. My son has exact same sweater and he loves it. But i just got away from us like i feel like mando went from like he was just started last week and now. It's the finale episode this week. So you know. It's the year for all plans and expectations flying out the window sides. You know next season three. We'll figure it out. But yeah until the next time. Cam and joanna thank you so much for coming on the pod man. Leaves also a fruit impressed the doodle prodigy.

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Episode 1- the rise of an empire !!

Daily Perspective By Ben Holley

07:55 min | 9 months ago

Episode 1- the rise of an empire !!

"If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. If everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor FM to get started. Thanks for listening. Hey, what's up guys? Welcome to the Daily perspective podcast. My name is Benjamin Ali. I am a podcaster. This is my God. I tried to transfer all my podcast from my other platform and I'm trying anchor down. So yeah, I'm excited to really get into the office to the podcasting and I'm doing a daily podcast. Well actually be three days a week would be Monday Wednesday, Friday Thursday. And yeah, I just wanted to get on here really quick and just do a first podcast as I said previously. My name is Ben from Holly this podcast juicy called The Daily perspective. It's basically a movie on anything. They're still really there right? There's no really any podcast that this podcast is an about one specific topic. I put it in a daily news because news to me is not just wage just it's not it's not anything specific does that mean that makes any sense thinks it's like you noses, you know, there's not a lot, you know, and it's not like seeing in says CNN political news. It's or C or Fox political news, or you don't I have a lot of interest my interest devise from birth. Derives from a lot of topics in my life, but first you know love is is movies books. I'm writing a book you guys about that on here. I'm writing about running a a a a a series of books small novels. I watch mu new movies all the time and it will review those on here. And so, you know what to talk about all kinds of things to talk about my perspective on movies started off each perspective on books talk about the perspective on everything and I just think this podcast is really good because I've talked about, you know aren't CD and see you know, the ours is a Republican National Committee the Democratic National Committee are converging sorry, not committee convinced and I could I apologize and you know things along those lines, you know, we get into a lot of deep conversations and little bit of everything and I think that's really interesting. So I know it's only about three minutes into it, but I'm going to take a break real quick and I'll be right back. So we're back welcome again to the Daily perspective podcast soap my podcast today is talking about just off this movie that just got me and And this movie is very I think it's going to be my my new favorite movie and that is it's called honey, boy was written by Sheila buff off and you know, everybody talks about this movie and you don't talk about movies that that move them now. I'm a big of a sentence. Like I said the mayor but you know teddy bear but I my my favorite movies are Nicholas Sparks movies and everybody talks about, you know, you know life is like those are chick flicks yada yada home screen like, you know, when I was a kid little story when I was a kid my mom. I'm I'm like the first child of the family wage would take me these chick flicks and make me, you know, go watch them with her and You know, I watched all the Charlie's Angels movies with Cameron Diaz, you know Drew Barrymore Lucy Liu Kang all those I wouldn't seen those and I like them and you know, my mom kind of just got me into the whole thing with him. And you know, I see all kinds of movies. That's what this podcast is going to be. So interesting is is, you know, man's you know view of this and you know, I've watched all the Nicholas Sparks movies. Like I said, I watch the choice the last song The Notebook I've seen Yeah, not all of them. But most of I think there's two of them that I haven't seen but that's my biggest. You know, my biggest thing I like to do is I like Nicholas Berg kinds of shows masculinity with feminism and you know and talks about how you know vulnerability and you know wage and in an interview that I read watch with them talking about the gifts and the romantic things that he's ever done. He can write a good story, you know are good and love notes to pass some some people. I think that's another big thing I can do is, you know, I I myself do have a A romantic as to myself and a romantic V. I really do. I'm I'm am I guess you get a whole book hopeless romantic, you know, that's my biggest. You know, my biggest thing that being said, you know, honey boy is probably one of the most Inspirational movies that I've watched in probably the last five years it is probably it'd be that and then it'd be blinded by Rich is my second favorite inspirational movie. And yeah, this podcast is only about five minutes long years can just a random get off go type of thing. So with that being said, I hope everybody has a great night and thanks for listening to the Daily perspective. Thanks for listening to me rant. There's nothing really going on. This is off and I'm the next my next podcast. I hope to be more organized and be more more yeah more organized, but everybody has a great day and look forward to to working with you and seeing and not put more product and more podcast out there. All right, everybody. Have a great one.

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Juicy Scoop - Ep 278 - A Hollywood producer is convicted of murder with defense attorney Shannon McDonald Goldstein

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

1:18:15 hr | 2 years ago

Juicy Scoop - Ep 278 - A Hollywood producer is convicted of murder with defense attorney Shannon McDonald Goldstein

"Hey, juicy, scoopers the Boehner premium say mom is the next generation of hardwood floor care from bona. It's quick easy to use and leaves no dulling residue. The bona premium spray mop includes a microphone cleaning, Pat in full-size original formula. Hardwood floor cleaner all in one wonderful package. The bona premium spray mop is available at most retailers were floor cleaning products are sold and on Amazon and bona dot com. That's b. o. n. a. dot com. Check out dot com for coupons and exclusive offers had the McDonalds. Has got the chew six. When the when you're on the go, she Cisco is a show the no. She talks Holly when tales from real life business segment to see real data surreal citizens, and you'll be addicted to the number one, tap three pot -plicitly Lucile. Lucile panda McDonald. Hello and welcome to juicy scoop coming up. I've got your favorite. My sister, Shannon, we are going to get into the real juicy, murder, Hollywood murder that happened and was just this past Saturday, the forty eight hour mystery on that. But first, let's talk about Ben Affleck guys. Well, he left his rehab to get some aren't are out Montana with his twenty two year old former playmate girlfriend. Shauna Sexton greatest name of her. And you know, I was like, what does he need any more rest and relaxation for? He was just doing restroom realization and rehab, except for the times that he left the rehab and went to his home to work out in bone Sean Sexton, whose car was parked in front. I'm just been Aflac. I'm just annoyed of annoyed with your big back tattoo though. They did show Petrova them recently, and he looked real jacked up like his shoulders will so broad. It was bizarre, but I wanna talk to my girl, Jennifer garner he's just been through hell and back and through a Jack in the box drive thru listen girl. When are you? Gonna get with my green architect, imaginary boyfriend, it's time that you find a new love. You know, one of Paltrow just had a beautiful wedding. People reported it was in the Hamptons and chilly hit seventy five people Cameron Diaz was there as one of the celebrity guests. That's kind of it for like other actresses. Of course, her mom, Steven Spielberg, seventy five people in the Hamptons, and it was a beautiful farm to table food. They didn't say what it was. Normally they say what they Naushad. Oh, they notched on MAC and cheese and lobster. Tale, but no, they didn't say what they mean, but it was farm to table what if everyone just said from factory to table or just eating, it says like, it's from a cattle farm to table. I dunno good for her good for her for getting married again. And she didn't have a big wedding with Chris Martin. So she did have a beautiful wedding and it wasn't the Hamptons. And she also had a bachelorette party in Kabo none of which I was invited to. But one thing I do remember is that she was a smoker or is this Fokker? She's smoking but lease. I don't know five years ago when I was at a party with her, and that was when she was already doing goop and super healthy. So I hope she doesn't smoke anymore. I wonder if she wore her crystal eggs in her vagina to walk down the aisle that she sells on goop, but all at all, really happy for you girl. Speaking of weddings, the new trend to do in weddings, or maybe one person today it is instead of your bridesmaids carrying bouquets. They carry rescue puppies and then people at the wedding adopt them to take home. So this was in people magazine and everybody had a puppy, but they were like different sizes and different colors, and some of them were a little too big to be carried like a bouquet. So what I'd like to see is if someone did this, but I hate to be about getting a pure breed, but if you got like all like little king, Charles puppies and or you know, all little black labs or something. Actually, I think little like white labs. Is that such a thing or little golden retrievers? I don't know if they were all like from the same puppy family, and then they people carried those. But then I think. Then I, I don't know if people could bring them home or do they go into a home or or do you set up a little pup? You know what I would, you know, then you while you're eating and stuff and everybody goes and they drops the puppies often like little puppy area and you wash your hands before you have a past app, and then people didn't play with the puppies. And if someone wants to take what home they can, if not, it shouldn't be a problem because they're pure breeds and they're adorable, or if you are going to do rescue puppies. I just think they for the for the aesthetic look of the photos. I just think they have to be similar sized an aged puppies. That's my personal opinion. I'm not a wedding planner, though. I'd like to be lady Gaga you guys. I saw the movie stars born and I cried and had shelves throughout the whole thing Saad at the mall of America. If you watch me follow me, please on Instagram at Heather McDonald and either she did great and she is great and she's super talented, and I love. Moving Bradley. Cooper is just hot as hell. But anyway, somebody put this little Kabul of interviews of hers together and she says the same thing and every interview. And she says, if one hundred people aren't a room and ninety nine reject you Bradley Cooper, he was that one who believed in me and it was constantly how much rejection she's gotten. Nobody believed in her, but Bradley Cooper and it's like you better star for a decade. And you know, maybe a couple of people turned you down, but like really been really successful. So a lot of people have said yes, and it just you this constant like I'm just I'm just a middle class girl. I'm just a middle class to talion girl from New York. How did I make it? Well, actually the odds are pretty good of you making it because you're already in a big city. Italian is like a pretty respectful ethnic group. It's not like you're really, you're being discriminated against because you're a talion. I mean, they've been here for like two. Hundred years. It's like me saying, you know, I don't know how I made it. I was just an Irish Catholic American who was born here at Saint providence hospital in Burbank, living on the south side of internal of ARD going to a private Catholic high school. How did I make it? How. I mean, whatever I've made, it could enough. No, my mom wasn't a movie star. My dad wasn't a huge director, but I had pretty good opportunity. So I feel pretty good. It's not like I was living under like a troll living under a bridge in the middle of you know America where there were two hundred people in the town. Anyway, glady Gaga regardless. You're super talented, but I just don't like the, I can't believe, you know. Finally, someone saw me for who I was, you've been hitting and killing it and doing really well for a long time. I, I love that I kind of almost have my own little beehive. Okay. Because a couple of people were really annoyed when cash revealed that just team Bateman her people passed on coming on juicy, scoop something like, really, you passed. So I'm just saying, I don't wanna be like beyond, say an unleash, the juicy skippers. Like she unleashes the beehive in people if just embankment doesn't wanna do my show. I still wish her the best. Okay. It's okay. Everyone. Let's talk about making Markle's. Craziest sister. Well, she did it again. She showed up and I, I guess you brought some boyfriend or something. Unfortunately, she has MS so she's in a wheelchair, but she went to the palace, they would not let her in. She tried to say, I'm her sister. They have photos of it, the Daily Mail do of course. And then she went to the gift shop and bought like a bunch of things with her sister, Meghan Markle's face on it. And she's like, I'd really like to try to make a mansard really like to try to. You know, it's just been too long and I'm coming on behalf of my father. It's over sister, you're eighteen years age difference. You're basically an old babysitter that chosen talk to in a long time. I think there's one photo of usage. Megan was an adult at like either your graduation and her or hers, and then you did all that shit to her at the greatest time of her life. So it's over you thirsty bitch, it's over. You're not. You're not going to you genius wedding either. Whenever her name is that is. That is the daughter of Fergie? No, not for me from black eyed peas Fergie. The red head of Andrew's wife. They actually did have a very happy divorce. They've been like best friends ever since they got divorced a true best friend and they her daughter's getting married. And if you live in LA they say, set your alarm for four forty, five AM on Friday tomorrow. This hearing this Thursday tomorrow Friday, and you can watch Eugeniusz wedding. I don't know how great it's going to be an probably saying her name wrong. But ever that's the cuteness about me. Speaking of divorces you guys. Let's talk a little bit just a little about real housewives of OC. All right. Well, Gina's there, she's the new girl and you know, oh my God. I didn't know. You dogs. I, I love the lab. I grew up with the lab. I love a dog, you know? And she's from little blind Lind and even though she lives in no see, oh my God. I'm like a fish out of water. Like what is with these girls? Like, you know what? I wouldn't do it. I don't do it. You know, she talks like that and she's like, I say the truth, even at set. It sounds funny when I say it so she she's to little kids. She's new to the cast, and her husband has never appeared on the show. And now she's announced that they are divorcing their best friends. They still are tracked to each other, which is soon they still have sex, their best friends. They get along. They talk all the time. But they're getting divorced everyone around her, which is every person in the cast has been divorced says, don't you want to try a little harder and she's like, no, like I'm happy. I'm thirty three like I don't want to be married to him anymore. Like he's my best friend. I love him sexually tracked him. We've been together since we're twenty two. I love his. I love my sister-in-law. I love my parents in laws like associated that we're not going to go on vacation together. Like one of the things that we do is we go on vacation really well together and to think that we're not going to go on a thank ation together as a family anymore. Like makes me really sad and everyone's just perplex why the hell are getting divorced, and a lot of people have asked me how that, what do you think it is? Do you think it's that this is the only way it could get on the show? This is what I think she wanted to be on the show. Yes, she's thrilled to be on TV. She says several times I was in a bubble in Long Island, and now I see that the world is my voice ter- and when my husband is an LA working at his office, I don't really. Miss him am ready to do this. I think they definitely are getting divorced, but I think that essentially he's the one who wants to divorce whether he has a new Honey and she's accepted it or she. No, she he wants it and she doesn't want to beg and and try to hang onto something that he's not into anymore because that's the only thing that would make it appear why she so sad. And then also she wants to protect your children. So she doesn't want to bash her ex husband to be, which I think is good. But I think she's truly sad about it ending, but the flip side of it ending was now I get to be divorced and beyond TV and have a career in television. And so I'm okay with it. But then I think when she forgets the cameras are there and really opens up like she did it Shannon's house, then she gets very sad. So they go over to his house to celebrate that Shannon Vidor. So. Sold out of some salmon with grant Jays who doesn't love that come out in. So Shannon Vitor is I'm getting together. I'm real proud of myself. I went all the way to Philadelphia. I sold fish, right and a half minutes into show by belly. I wore too small jacket that was Kelly Dodds, but I feel great and all the girls supported her and they called in they watched and she did great celled out, sold out of the fish, and I'm happy for Shanna door to. I really am. She's a friend of mine, and we all saw that she and David were not end their days together, but here's where the part that sometimes I have to admit guys, I get jealous. Essentially, I'm the same age of these real housewives. Okay. And both. She and Kelly meet for coffee and they both talk about how tired they are and Shannon goes, I still haven't even unpacked from my trip to Philadelphia where Seoul the fish on QVC Aitchison, whatever it is and Kelly's like, I'm so sauced. I took a nap. I mean, let me just tell you guys. I travel at least three times a month with a three hour time change. Normally I get in to a place I go to bed. I wake up four hours later because the time change, I do press. I come back to force myself to try to take a nap before I do two shows of standup at a club in which I do meet and greets and meet everybody after and take photos and then do the same thing the next night possibly three nights in a row. Then I get on a plane and they come back and I'm on for my children, and then I wake up and make them eggs and pancakes. And then I tape a podcast the next day and. I don't mean to Pat myself on the back, but I don't. I like one trip to Philadelphia and an eight and a half minute stint on said, I guess I'm a little exhaust little jealous that you get to be exhausted while you feel your television show and have a million Instagram followers where I'm scraping at one fourteen are you following me? People? You follow me on Instagram, but, hey, extremely grateful for all of you, especially when you come see me live because I don't mind. I wanna go meet you after I want to perform actually love it. I'm just, I never, I never cancelled and I'm never tired. 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You get blamed even for choosing to have your baby two days early thinking that he didn't wanna share it on a holiday. You can never, you can never be right. So he is a good kid. He is getting ready to get a license and he has this truck that's ready for him to take over when he has his license. So Peter and I have been telling him that we are going to wrap it. You know, you see those cars that are wrapped with like an advertisement that we're going to wrap it with juicy scoop and my face in the red dress so far. He believes that he's a little question it, but I think he believes that we keep saying it and he doesn't want it. And I keep convincing him that it's cool and that he will just have to go to Calabasas high and go, look, I live in the hood of. Woodland Hills. Okay. I can't afford not to have my car wrapped with my mother's business. It's a family business, and I'm proud of her. Here's the thing you guys, I might want to just wrap it. I'm looking into it. I might want to just wrap it for two weeks just just to keep this going and just to see his reaction and like have some hidden cameras and film it and just to have the theme song going as he has to drive it around the neighborhood, or maybe I just drive it around. I don't know. Tell me what you guys think is the cruelest thing you've ever heard of or is this something that we should keep going for the next two weeks until it's his birthday. I think happy birthday. You don't have to wrap it. I don't know. I don't know. I guess it would be a little embarrassing. He said he doesn't wanna pink car. Sort of the background of juice group is pink. I said, it won't be pink, but it will be me in that red dress smiling slightly airbrushed. Anyway, guys now for my sister very excited. It was real juicy. It was on FaceTime, slash Skype call, but I think it sounds great. And you guys were asking for some juicy crime and she did. She answered a lot of questions that the forty hour mystery did not. So even if you didn't watch the show, we explain it all and get ready. It's a pretty disturbing juicy. Hello and welcome juicy, scoop crimes. I'm here with one of your favorites and mine. This is my sister, Shannon. McDonnell Goldstein also known as yellow flower, and I am Heather aka pumpkin. McDonald's. Hello, Heather. How are we today? We are good, so I was very, this was a murder that it's really, really gruesome an awful. So the gruesome -ness of it I we can touch upon, but obviously I don't want to touch on it too much because it's just so sad and weird. But this was on forty, eight hour mystery, and it's been out for a while wanted you just kind of do the the breakdown of this murder? Well, this is a true Hollywood story. Actually, this is the convict, well, I guess we don't have to say that, but ultimately just ended in a jury trial, this particular person has aim is Blake liable, and it was just done. I think I'm forty eight hours, but it's pretty interesting. So he was accused and ultimately convicted of murder mayhem and torture of his girlfriend slash fiancee mother of his new. Born baby and what makes us case kind of interesting, not only because in Hollywood, but because he comes from a very. Well to do wealthy trust fund background from Canada, actually a very beautiful area and Antero Canada. No, it's Toronto, Canada, and now's where and that is where cash is from who works with me. And she fortunately did not know this weirdo, but she was aware of their wealthy families because both his mother and his father came from extreme wealth. Correct? Right. And what's really sad about that? Part of it is, yes. She has an older brother named Cody who's who's a year older than him. But the parents were both came from very wealthy backgrounds. The father was wealthier in a little more scandalous stuff involved with him, kind of scandals kind of scum. He was one of the bird. He was an Olympic sailor and he was one of the first Olympia and to get snagged for being on steroid. Oh, propia drugs? Yeah. Can I just say something? I wouldn't think that sailing was a kind of sport that would require extreme strength that would come from steroids kind of weird. Don't you think. Yeah, it is. I mean, but that's what I read about. So, yeah, very scandalous at the time. But yeah, you would think, but, you know, actually remember on sale though. I like you sit back, you know, it's takes a lot of effort to, I think. I think those wins around. I think being on a sailboat is just an awful time. It just adjust when you start to relax the people, scream and say, watch your head and now have to lean on the other side so maybe wouldn't need maybe. So he was on. He was on steroids. Yes. So what I find interesting about that though, is that basically it's two kids to boys, you know that are already close in age and can be competitive. The parents never got divorced, but when were when he was blade was very young child, they were separated and each parent took a child. So he he went with his mother, so he's very close with his mother and his brother went with the father whose name is Loren Loren Loren Michaels, I guess l. o. r. any and. So he never had a really close relationship with his father. Like his older brother was kind of sporty type. He was more of the nerdy video game, comic con kind of kid. So I feel like I just feel like that split number one is always kind of tough because if you're trying to ingratiate yourself with your father, but that I just thought that was interesting. You know, I think that is. We're always sort of shocked by that when someone breaks up that the that the kids go to separate parents, but it happens more than you think, especially when they're a little bit older sometimes just because right there get along with better with a parent or maybe they felt the boys were fighting a lot at that age. I mean, with my sons, I'm like, oh my God, we just need to separate them. They're better now. But when they're like a little bit younger, sometimes there was more fighting. So I, I wonder if that was part of it, but it seems very unfortunate because or maybe the dad knew he was a little off and couldn't get close to him and wanted him to be with his mother so way, which ones older Cody, the non, the non murder, the non hurry. Okay. But so. Okay. So other interesting things about the background is the mother also who's very close to also came from a wealthy family her father. So his, his maternal grandfather, like was I ca- plastics tycoon or something like that. But his meeting Blake's maternal grandmother, meaning his mom's mom. She had a history of mental illness and a lot of difficulties, and they don't really a lot of detail of maybe bipolar. But I just find that interesting because the nature of this murder really screams mental illness because it's so horrific and so bizarre. So I just find that interesting also really came out of nowhere. ROY did or did it 'cause like or within or did no one share their stories like, so let's get, let's get onto his life. So he he and his brother both and up in Hollywood. When did they come to Hollywood ended? They get come together or separately. I think they are. They actually came to gather. I think that came around the same time and I think he went to school or college in in onto our on -tario Canada, and then came down to Hollywood, and I maybe followed his brother slightly, but his brother like twenty three kind of I think went into the, I want to say he was like a record producer, kind of went into that area, and then he went into more of the, you know, murders name is blink, right? Yeah, there's more laying and Cody Riley, Blake guide just give the name. Yeah. Blake libel kind of close to Blake, lively. I know. Probably not great. I think it's pronounced Blake liable. It's not actually spelled my Bill, but it could be label or libel l. e. IB else. And then Blake kind of came into to sort of in a creative way to he was sort of a a graphic. I think they wanna call. I call him a. He's a graphic novelist director in a graphic novelist, but was into sort of the comic con always would go every year sci-fi and worked on. I think, worked on kind of a weird little script call bald, the kind of I don't know what that was about, but it was more like a, you know, teenage boy kind of thing. And then we're also one point in time got to work on the animated spirits series space falls under Mel Brooks. So he was actually doing some stuff now was making any money. I don't know. He might also being someone of means, you know, that happens a lot to were just a rich, a royalty person. Wants to be a movie producer will how do you become a movie producer? If you're a wealthy person, your money, you give some money and your auto radically a producer, you know? And you can say you're a movie producer and a lot of people want to add that to the resume of things. I mean, this seemed to be his desire, but also it's like, you know where people his friend or ingratiating or letting him be part of something because he was footing the Bill of production or these things that the other people just didn't have the means to do you kind of really wonder how much. Yeah. How much was he really doing and what was he really making off of it? Or was this all trust fund money that he was living off of? Well, some of the articles I read because when you watch the show, it's great, but you know, it kind of gives you questions than you want to answer them. So some of the questions that I found out, you know, some because they say like nobody would speak about him or about this because I guess the crime was so horrific, but you kind of look through other jury audibles or. Other things they might say, things like, well, one of thought he was almost hyper intelligent way too intelligent for almost for his own good and other people thought he might have been a little bit more of a con artists. Some people call nerdy, some people call them. So he huge either be super smart in lots of personality and other people would call them maybe maybe all cut my scam artists real right though. It depends on, I guess, from your perspective in where you're at the other was somebody there was one person that said, I liked this quote was he had was full of amazing ideas, but he couldn't really execute. Right? Which if we really want to talk a little bit, I mean, if you buy just find that interesting because the crime itself was all about execution. I mean in this I mean literally like it was so it wasn't just like a gun or a knife. It was. Basically over two three day period. He basically there was mayhem in torture. It was scalping and literally draining the blood out of her body while she was still alive. It was a believe it got like a like a couple of days for her actually to die from the beginning of the wealthy. According to Pat baligian report, they don't sit. She was essentially missing for three days before anyone really discovered her. But according to how she died, they believe that would have taken her six to eight hours to die when though sixty eight hours occurred, whether it was right before they found her or a day earlier, I don't know. But it was a slow horrifically. Painful, really hard to describe death. And I think that's the hardest thing. 'cause even when you read this because it came. Out of nowhere. But even if he was like a serial killer, which obviously there's no evidence of that. The motivation there is the makes no sense. It doesn't make what's what's interesting too. So he lent, he's always in Hollywood working and he marries this one woman who's also gorgeous, and he's not a cute guy. No, he's not. He's pretty unattractive, really. He's got like weird cuter before before he killed this now. But even the photos that they showed of him with the girl, it was like, you know, like he's, you know, when a guy starts losing his hair, the best thing to do, especially now as I think cut it short, but he had kind of long. So it was like sort of long and like trends in his face, but then like a bald spot which I find really kinda creepy. And and he kind of like a goofy smile a lot, but faces weird faces like in the pictures, like even the pictures. Supposed to be spoiling. Yes, it's like almost like when you tell your child or son's like just smile please, and then they do a strange face, yes, what he's thirty instead and he's doing that same strange face like nothing's Raj waited for you commit. I think it was more mid thirties when he was with all these women with me. 'cause 'cause they'll thirty six. I think when thirty six or thirty seven when the when the murder happened or maybe maybe it was thirty seven when he went to trial, but something Rick. Okay. So the first wife who they showed photos of looked like a model like gorgeous tall brunette, and they got married and she had one baby. And then shortly after she got pregnant with their second baby, and while she was pregnant and about to give birth. He left her before the next woman who was the victim? When is her name? Lanna Kassian. Who was from Russia. Your crane? Oh Ukraine, and she was living here and. Does she? I think he brought out the mom or the moments to here. So the moms speaks very little English. I don't think she speaks any English actually. How long had had his girlfriend been here before they met? Do you know any of that? I think they met in two thousand fourteen. I mean, I think they were dating. I mean, I think it was cheating on his wife is basically what I'm saying. Because shortly after he actually files for divorce. The baby is born. The Kassian baby Lana Kassian. Babies is born. It's like within because he byles for divorce. Two thousand fifteen in the baby is born in may of two thousand sixteen with the with the girlfriend spe right? Literally like the board, the ex wife end, the girlfriend, the victim, they were pregnant almost at the same time, really just a different, maybe different times maybe a little bit or you know, I think the first is second child was born before with his first wife before his daughter was born, and that was the one thing we really have no information about this first wife. Was he weird to her? Was there any domestic violence? No. Was just a cheater how much was giving her a month like she happened to be rid of him like there's just nothing about this woman will. We actually have a little bit. Okay. Okay. So two thousand six. They meet and she's a party girl and winch, but he's hanging out in the same surp-. As Blake and his older brother Cody, so, but there's interesting when she saw when she started dating. Blake. The reason she data Blake was because she had just was disdaining a hedge fund manager that got convicted Ponzi scheme and then was later killed in two thousand ten. So she saw nerdy Blake and said, oh, he seemed shy stable. So all date him and also she wants today people with money. Clearly she went from a hedge fund guy that was doing Ponzi schemes to this trust fund rich kid will which when you said they're running around the same circles now that tells me were at one time. We're Blake and Cody again, close in Hollywood. Like did they ever worked together the brothers, he, no, I think they got along, but I, I want to say that there was more of knowing that got along. I mean, I don't know if they were actually worked on anything together, but I think big out a law, but I know in the forty eight hours, they talked a lot about how Blake was concerned that Cody was involved in all the scam. Bling and he was worried about his brother, and then it came out later that maybe gambling was really more of Blake, and that might have been a problem as his own. It was his own things that he was projecting and telling people, oh, it's my brother. My brother's getting involved with weird people that I'm worried about. It would seem that way, but you don't know if it was actually getting involved with these weird people or this was his own projection in his head because obviously he's crazy yet. We actually not crazy. He's actually deemed not crazy, but. We'll talk about that. Okay. So what else about the girl would did you find anything more about the first wife? Well, I thought that was kind of interesting, and people would always say like, oh, I can't understand what she's doing with them because you know, he's kind of nerdy, you know, but then she got married. They married two thousand eleven, and she was already pregnant with her first child Ed. So she's not saying a whole lot because I think she liked him up until the time that he just went sideways in what was somebody else? I don't think I know also she not saying anything now to one protector children, because what a horrible feeling to know that your two children, spa other is such a m- hormone murder monster. But then also, you know, is she still being provided by this wealthy family and part of that wealth and keeping the peace is not going on forty at our mystery and not. Discussing it and kind of just not wanting to draw more attention to herself, you know, and also just protecting the family and the one brother doesn't want to be associated. I mean how awful it would be, you know, to. The Trump in the trial. The only person that was there every day was the brother. The brother was there every day or close to every day. The wife only came after the verdict was read. And then there was this interesting friend of this entertainment lawyer from that worked at a lot of projects with Blake, that was they are. That's a fun story to that. I'll tell you about little lighter side story, but going onto a man. I think with the mon- I think what's interesting is the mother of the victim. Actually, after this case was over filed a loft, a wrongful death lawsuit understandably so. So she would have something to take care of the child really because now she's on the on to kick your daughter, and I guess she was trying to serve Amanda. So yes, there's no doubt in my mind that Amanda has either something possibly of the father. Lauren is providing the legs father the his. Yeah, I don't maybe cody's apart of that. And so that maybe because of of. Whatever Amanda might beginning. Maybe that's why she would be part of the lawsuit that the mother the that Lanta Cassius mother whose name is Olga, would wanna get some of that money to take care of another child of of legs. I'm not really sure, but that's certainly could be one of the reasons that she just doesn't want to get involved like. I want to say anything to incriminate herself or the family of the trust. I mean, it is very, it is very sad is so sad because the the mother of the victim was interviewed and she was watching what went on that day was. They so he, okay. The other thing is so he had the wife that he left that he was with this woman had the baby. The baby was only like two months old when the mom died any also weeks, three old, three weeks old. Any also had a whole nother girlfriend mistress luggage in another house that he was providing for a beautiful rental house in Beverly Hills that I mean, I'm looking at it. I'm guessing it's probably like fifteen grand a month or something like it looked really nice and, and that's where she lives and they did have a domestic violent thing happen to have info on that. Do you remember the details of that at all? I do remember from watching the show, but in all the other articles that I read, I couldn't find anything about that, but that was what kind of. So basically they're together. They have the baby. The mom Olga comes out to take care of the baby and like surely within a week after the baby is born. She discovers that Blake gets arrested for the sexual assault on a whole other woman. So she on his, yeah, on the mistress. And he puts the mom up in in a house. Right. And so even though he has his place that he's living with the, what's the girl's name? Lalla. What's her name? Lana, Lana. He's living there with Lana and the new baby. The mom lives like down the street. And so law was like there at the moms a lot because there was also something that he didn't really enjoy the baby around, like the baby was keeping them up. So it was like he wanted like the attention, right? He won't. Let's not even have the baby around. So it was like almost like the mom and the baby were living in a separate house. And then LaLa would like go and be with her child and then leave the child there and then go back to Blake and one of these days that she went back to Blake, it was like, okay, we're gonna go over to Blake's now watch the baby. Mom, and then that's when the mom didn't hear from her ever again? Well, I think I think probably what might happen because they really barely touch upon it. But I think probably what happened was yours guy pretty much whatever he wants to be very controlling and he wants all the attention. So then when he gets caught with the other person who is probably with for awhile during the pregnancy, he then probably tells Lanta lawn, I believe lawn LaLa, but Lana and goes, you know, I need you, and, and but I wanna be with you baby and all this kind of stuff. Well, then you get your mom take care of the baby and spend some quality time together, whatever, and for whatever is going on in this guy's brain or whatever. But then when they go bless day, like may twenty. Third, they go shopping for strollers Lana in her mom, Olga. And then she goes, you know, he's calling me. I guess we'd get upset when he would call. He wants me back now. I'm gonna go back now. And then then I think this, this is what really drives me crazy. The next three days. So the next three days is the mother goes hunt. Where are you aware? Are you the next day? It'd be the twenty four. Now she's really concerned now in her broken English and everything or knowingly, she calls the police and she does help me. You know, I go up there and I see, Blake, and he's there and his news close a sees me in close the window. Something is clearly going on. So the police still up in the knock on the door and they go, hey, are you there? And he doesn't answer and they go, well, we don't suspect ball pile place, so they don't do anything and then almost a day and a half two days later on the twenty six. She finally like, please, please help me now been almost three days, please. Can you go in? There will then by the time they finally do break the door. It's too late and what's worse is we don't know by how late was it? Could it? Could they have done this? This happened the very first day. Did this happen within all these days? Was their ability to to prevent it this? And I think that is just not really. Okay and actually quite not really typical. I'm actually surprised that they weren't able when they saw him. No, that they weren't able to break down the door anything. But I guess because there was no history. Of with your unit, but shouldn't there have been? Wouldn't you have? Okay, if you're doing the class action lawsuit, not class action, but the lawsuit wrongful death lawsuit would I believe she's also I think she might be suing the LAPD too because LAPD had to be very careful about what they said. Yes, we don't know, but shouldn't they have run a record and seen that he'd already been in trouble just recently hitting the mistress and been concerned. They already they did probably. And the only thing I can think of is that a they weren't concerned because she wasn't the victim of that particular sexual assault, but don't you think that's shitty LAPD work at the already have any record at all. And even just even just a mom saying, I'm concerned about my daughter that is not answering her phone and this is her her baby. Daddy. I just wonder if sometimes because it's a nice area, you know, our. Okay. Not so quick to be concerned. Well, I think the problem was was that in the beginning which she should have said was not that I believe with that really, no evidence at the sky is hurting my daughter, but that he's no, no, this the phone, but she may be in. She may be in trouble because she just had a baby three weeks ago, like Ida, I've not heard from her. She may be in trouble. She may be hemorrhaging out. She may be Jill clearly she was, but for a different reason. But she may be having post labor pains when there could have been so many other reasons. I don't know why. Maybe whoever was the deputy that came out, they didn't see any fell play that you know that got another call another call came in, right? They, you know they were. There could be so many other reasons, but I did find on the show that they were trying to hedge that and say, well, it shows that you know, maybe this was just happening right before hand. So really, you know, could have been dead already is I would. I felt the detectives were trying to to say, I would have had an apartment, you know, could have been dead the very first day. Right, right. Yeah, we'll obviously you're going to cover your ass. Excuse me, but on a, you know, on liability issues obviously. And when they break in there, from what I recall from the. Show not only is, are they sitting splatters of blood, but then afterwards when they went back into the crime scene one when it was gone when everybody was gone and they sprayed that Luminol stuff. I mean, it was so much massive blood everywhere that he obviously had attempted to clean up or like she was. It seemed like she was in every room dragged from every room bled in every room. Just three bedroom place will in the blood had to go somewhere because according to the pathology report, literally by the time they got there, there was a teaspoon of blood left in her body. So where would the blood of gone all go down in the eleven towels and trash bags and shoot, which by the way there was a little trash shoot outside the apartment and they found blood and DNA and skin and other parts hair in. I mean, I. What about the post mates? Let's talk about the post mates. Do you remember that now tell me about that. He ordered to post mates those three food younger e. Food delivery places in case they got everywhere. I just he just kept saying, leave the outside, but there was like three or four different guys that were giving, you know, coming with food and that he was getting hungry between the torturing. I guess a us getting very hungry and it's just it's it's hard just that because the only motivation they really gave was he was jealous of the baby. I'm sorry, that's like going from zero to three sixty in one second. I don't know how you think it's this. That's why it's so strange in y, you know, unfortunately this, the first wife can't give any insider choosing not to which it's her right. She's got a raise kids, but like you know, was this something of? Yeah, he was a cheater and yes, he was spoiled brat, but to, you know, it's one thing that if they, if she came and said, I know you have this mistress and you just, you know, she just called you for hitting her. And now I know that you have. Mistress and I'm done and I'm, I'm gonna take all your money and blah, blah, blah. And they get in some fight and he loses control and Hetzer, and you know, throws hits the wall and she dies. And then he tries to cover it up like the usual murders that happen to women by the men that they one time loved this one. It's like he, he got off on the torture. This was a torture was similar to the project that he was involved in that had a storyline that was like a scalping draining of blood of a victim. Which makes it so creepy when there's like a connection to someone's pass to the crime that they did. So it's like, I think that's what makes it so crazy. And then when they found when they broke into the place, he was there still right. And you're, you saw a picture. Do you so weird booking photo, how he's smiling yet? So I have a question for you actually. 'cause one of the defense, the public defender, that Representative, one of the defense was the timing of the book is obviously very prejudicial because he was involved in this project called syndrome block where it talks about sort of a doctor that is going to try to cure a basically a non more close schizophrenic, but somebody who has this desire to kill people in a certain way or torture people. So which is very similar. Right? And but there was a lot of talk about how the fact that he he just he was the producer. He just paid the people to ride it. He paid the people to think of the ideas. So he was really just the money, man really is what they're trying to say. Now, I guess the prosecutor obviously brought people in saying, no, he was part of the writing style, but one about that. What about I mean, because that's very prejudicial. What if you really wasn't involved in the idea or the writing? What if he was just really the money man. Pretty, I say, even if he was just the money, man, he worked on something that then he executed himself. So. The idea gave him the it was in his it makes sense. It gives them motivation. I mean, the Menendez brothers wrote the script. The one wrote the script with his friend from Calabasas about a about two brothers that killed their parents for money, right? I mean, I you even if it wasn't planned as you're writing at. Oh, and in two years from now, I'm going to do this. It goes along with your your story, your, you know, your narrative of Carole Radziwill would say it was his narrative like it makes sense that either he was attracted to this or because it was already sick and saw it got an his head. I mean, serial killers and murderers like horror films, they read things, you know, they like violent video games. I'm not saying it's everybody, but oftentimes you find like at a mass killer, a guy that goes and shoots up a school that they like. That type of violent star. Of course, it doesn't mean everyone that playing video games is going to be violent, but I think someone with a. You know an affinity to do that. They feed into that before they actually execute it themselves. Well, I agree with you. I mean, I thought I thought that was a nice stab at a defense, but I also felt like, well, yeah, but you're still this is your project this project that you know about the you're making money off of because here's the interesting thing this the book syndrome. I'm not sure when it was written, maybe two thousand ten, but in two thousand fourteen, they were trying to make it into a TV show and he had this friend named Jeremy Tanzer. He's another interesting person. So he's an entertainment lawyer that he went to school with Hanada, and he was also what probably one of his biggest supporters at the trial. And in that trial, they, the prosecutor was trying to keep him out or like he was really, he wanted to be part of the defense. The one of the jurors said she had to be dismissed because she thought he was following her. So he got what is the defense. Pence. I mean, truly, first of all, he got a public defender, which is interesting because doesn't didn't. He have his own money as a trust fund kid to have spent it on a non-public defend or a private defense attorney. Okay. So this is very interesting because it's another issue. What I think might have started his slow demise. So his mother was quitting demise actually. Demise in his head and then, yeah. So his mother, I guess he was very close to his mother and she in two thousand eleven right when he got married to the first, the wife, she got brain cancer, and I was just so interesting. This show brain cancer, and I guess as friends so that he was so despondent about it because they were so close, but he never made the funeral. So as he despondent or is just not that close with urban anyway, that I think took a lot out of him because he was really his only parent really because he wasn't close to his dad, what you're not that much. You know what you're the mom died. Two thousand eleven and when the murder, two thousand sixteen o kind of Bill five years. But I found that interesting. I'll tell you why, because what had happened is he because the mom was independently wealthy, he was supposed to get a majority or all of his mom's wealth, which was something like twelve million dollars. He got a house, but I guess the father said that there was another wheel that was put in where he was insured with his new wife, father and his new. I it trust that then would he would be able to dole out Cordingley to both? Blake and his brother Cody. One of the most important things we can do for a health everyday is brushing our teeth yet. Sadly, most of us don't do it properly. That's why I love. Quip quip is a better electric. Toothbrush created by dentists and designers. Quip was designed to make brushing your teeth, more simple affordable, and even enjoyable and. The built in two minute time repulses every thirty seconds to remind you when to switch sides and guide you to the full and even clean better. Yet quip does it require a clunky charger. 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I'm going to contest it, and he tried to say that he never got notice of this trust and other things, but he actually did. So we kinda got lazy on that, but he was trying. But you know, he was another idea of a competition or jealousy like code. You get all of dad's stuff. I don't get any adad stuff. I'm supposed to get mom stuff. Mom is in Iowa, the close one now I think that you're messing into my fortune. So basically he really wasn't. He, I don't know who making any money independently. So everything that he was making was his money. So that least that trust part, if there was still being controlled by his dad, he, he wouldn't have access to it if he was a right and he doesn't have to need an aces he's not the, he's not close to a Sunday's, not there. He doesn't have access to that money to pay for private. A journey. So maybe all he really had was non enough. Jay would qualify, I guess, for public defender. I mean, I knew I wonder if the dad was just like, look, our kid is a mass murderer, even if he's crazy. I don't even want to pay for the defense to try to get him in a, you know, an insane asylum that might be better care than regular jail. I wonder, you know, I don't know I, he may have just wiped his hands of it quite frankly. I don't know, and I don't know about how much Cody would have had or didn't have her. Maybe they're just and as far as Cody and the best friend attending the trial. Yeah, I don't know if necessary. Is that support? Is that straight up? Curiosity is just like, I don't want to read about it. I wanna know about it. I need to know about it to make sure that I have closure that this is my brother and I just, I just need to know because how it's not like you're just because he's there doesn't necessarily mean that he was supporting his brother and hoping. That he would get off because what was the defense? I mean, what kind of defense was she even giving when she ever trying to say that it was someone else and not him? Or was she just trying to prove that he was insane at the time? Well, clearly she started out with an insanity plea his in the beginning. There wasn't insanity plea, but then when you do it insanity plea, then you have to go through all the psycho evaluation in it's gotta back it up. So once they found that he was fit to stand trial because he knew the difference between right and wrong, the insanity plea didn't. He was held competent, so it really didn't hold up. So then you have to basically proceed. You could proceed on a hope. You wouldn't have full on insanity, but you could certainly talk about a mental illness you weren't on the right mind and she might have done that, but really wants sanity plea was out. She, it sounds to me like there was basically two big, you know, she kind of. Hacked the blunt x. for maybe the blood, you know, you want to attack the forensics, but you really their only thing that should really said was that apparently there was another. There was some unidentified male DNA on some of these trash bags, three of the eleven. So does that mean if somebody was working with him, but she doesn't seem to talk Russian mob or we should really didn't have that evidence. There was this attorney that would was strange. A friend attorney that then jumped in and said, I think my friends being framed and I wanna come in as being co-counsel, but the public defender was like, I don't want a part of him. I don't think I don't want to be part of this defense and he, you know, he basically was held in contempt. So he's a little bit of, but was interesting about the friend because they say he's the big support or the friend ultimately was held in contempt. He apparently went up to the writer of the book syndrome who testified for the prosecution. And someone heard of talking about, hey, I'd like to get a deal. We can reprint this book because now there's a heightened interest in the book. So you know, maybe not a great supporter. You know they're there to see was excited for the press around his project that hadn't really gone on gotten off the ground. Right? And I think he kinda wanted to make a big yet really, basically nothing to lose by almost acting like he'd at least the Trump more interesting and he probably thought, hey, you know if this guy was framed blitz, at least give the jury something to think about. So him just going up and down and going, hey, my clients, you know, the jury heard it. They would have been outside the presence with my clients been framed or Mike nyc NAMA climb, but my friends been framed than, you know, maybe they can put a nugget jurors have they been framed? But really, I think the public defender did what she had to do. She clearly went after a mental defense in all the discovery which is what anybody would do. And when that didn't materialize, unfortunately, then she poked holes in, that's all you can do. So she poked holes in the. Fact that book wasn't written by him. So therefore trying to put a motivation or a commonality with the book she said, was far stretch, and then she poked holes on missing DNA that there's obviously somebody else's DNA was involved in this. What does that mean? And. I think there might have been, oh, I think she only call one witness which had to do with, I think a not the path Allah just but maybe how something that might have mitigated the actual torture in mayhem. But really she didn't have a lot to work with, to be honest with you, probably her biggest win. And if that was what she did or just the prosecutor did was to not go for the death penalty. 'cause he didn't die and California does have death penalty now. Oh, sure. I thought we did it for a while came back. Well, I mean, it's it's, you can. You can still have a death penalty case. You're not necessarily being you're going death, rose. What I'm saying is whether they choose to actually, you know, execute. You're not might take a while. But yeah, I mean, right now where we are right now, I, I almost got duct Kelsey cases a juror needless to say, I couldn't. You know, I had to excuse myself 'cause I can't be on a death penalty case for three months. But yeah, the death penalty case going on. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, really those proceed with the death penalty and obviously and then outweigh if it ever gets changed where we do execute people in those people will be executed. So you still can be sentenced to death can be sentenced to death even if the state has a stay of no. Right. Okay. Secure. I just think it would be, you know, I felt bad for the girl and not just because her hair. I don't know anyone that saw it, but it should dark hair unlike the worst white roots and I just wanted to go and get that Lori Al color spray that I use sometimes when my phrase coming out and here she is on TV and she's got the worst job on earth. I mean, you have to defend this person your phone or you got assigned him. But as far as other DNA on those trash bags, I think that could be garbage man, a maintenance man, or maybe he did have some friend or lackey person that somehow fell upon it and helped him dispose of it. But I think to the jurors, they're like, look, he still did it. You know if there's someone else that touched that fine, but his DNA was on it too. So we didn't have any admission. He didn't make any statements, which I thought was always very interesting. He obviously looks pretty creepy in pretty weird. And you know, if you do have some other DNA you have something. But I think you had to make more, hey, with it, you had to have a witness or you had to make something with the Russian mafia, or you had to make something with the molly's game. Gamblers only in tweeted mentioned that that it was the brother who was part of Mali's game the real molly's game from the Oscar winning movie or nominated. Well, that was all these like young guys and she ran this private gambling group in Hollywood, and that was his brother was doing that right? Or as we said, clearly there, you know, there can always be other people involved. We don't know. She came from Ukraine. We don't know. She was involved in some monkey business. I mean, there's no evidence of that, but we don't know that so there can always, I think that was the only thing to do it. We try to play up that a little bit more, but I don't. But if you don't have the backing to do that and I don't know, you know if she really did. I mean, the best thing to do would be to keep. Him out, you know, give him the help. He needs really and try to do a mental defense or keep him out of, you know, death row, which essentially and I'm, I don't. He got he got life in prison, but not a thriving ever will let me hit torture mayhem. So that's why it's life without possibility of parole as it probably should be. I mean, it one hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, there's really I just, I guess I'm just still. I'm just still troubled as to. Is he just one of these really like he almost like, what was that movie with Anthony Hopkins. Oh, the cannibal Lecter. Yeah. Is it like it almost feels like that like he didn't like he was an intelligent man and he had a job and he was normal for a while and the Nejad it started. Yeah. Like because even when you look at like the baby on the syndrome book, it's like the brain is open, and that's what happened to her. He literally pulled her hair and scalp off. I mean, enter ear often eyebrows off, and it was really, really was. I mean, I'm like we have something in our legal system called mayhem. I mean, that is ma'am true Li like a pet polished. I'd never seen it before he goes unless you yearn war or something, you just don't see. You don't see this. It doesn't happen. And and I think about that. Sometimes, you know, with these heinous crimes, I'm always like. You know when something awful like that happens, it's like pray for the people that have to come in there in gather up for body, pray for people that have to clean up the place. I know it's just like, what is that? Like? You know, you're. I just can't imagine how hard of a of a life that must be for people emotionally. Exactly. I mean, and you think about even car accidents and how bad that can be. But when you think about this knowing before, I mean, it. It it just I don't know either it makes you just think of in your mind, like how do you get to that point. How do you get to that point? You know, I mean, I definitely think she had a mental crazy part of him that he was able to keep down or feed with these types of movies and things that interest him. And then he snapped. And sometimes these crazy people say I fantasized about it and he chose to do it and wanted to do it who I mean who who knows? But I mean, and then also who knows he could be crazy. I mean, who's someone's judging the fact if you're crazy or not? How does everybody know what what level of crazy is? No one can total. No one knows what's in your head or what you're faking or pretending to be okay or pretend right crazy. No one's ever going to really know. But someone that that gets off on doing something like that tells me you're really, really sick, whether that's technically insane from the psychology or psychiatrists, you know, of. American University. I don't know. You know, it's just like it's just, but as far as the lawsuit goes in this, you know her poor mother who has gone back to Russia with the baby and obviously would like some financial help or the person who killed her daughter was wealthy as a well. She this baby has wealthy grandparents and wealthy uncle and all of that. I feel sorry for her, but I also really empathize with the family because even if they wanted to help like I'm so sorry that we had a crazy sick brother who absolutely tortured your beautiful daughter. So I'd like to give you fifty grand a year for ten years, then you start to do that and it's like, well, that's not enough. You have twelve million dollars. So unfortunately, I think that's why people do completely retreat in situations like that and completely cut themselves off because they don't want to be. Then put in position by giving some that then they could give more. And the only way she's probably going to get it is through this lawsuit right away. And again, they may not have to give it to her. And then now that she sued now, they really don't want to give it to her possibly because then they're being tortured again, but you also can't blame her and you can't blame the attorneys that have approached her and said, you should try to get something you've been through the worst thing ever and you're raising this little girl. And meanwhile, his two other children might have means for the rest of their life. Right? And so I totally see it, but I also see how awful it must be to have your name on forty eight hours mystery to have your homes and your family's all be associated with one of the most tortuous, horrible, heinous crimes that's happened. You know. In LA for a long time. So it's want to distance yourself from the whole situation you were there you, unlike, for example, the mother are Amanda. You know she was with the met night. She didn't ask for a divorce. He divorced are the kids were not involved in that, like you really do want to distance and the father is he's a father, but he's just in some self already. The mother is passed. I've actually, it's like it has grown Ken, I'm he did a horrible thing, but why is it now my job, you know? And why? Now my responsibility. And like I said, you know, had maybe she felt because she was getting no response. She had to go the legal route. And then the other side of it is maybe his response was, will God if you you, you didn't Sumi and mention me all over. I would have given you a million dollars, but now how it gets so ugly, it's just really, it's tragic all the way round. But I see both sides. I don't think she. Really had a choice because if no one was coming to her and apologizing or if there was no contact if she and typically attorneys will say, no, you wanna contact the victim. You don't wanna do this. But then all people said originally how they're always saying that like whenever there's like an awful cartoon or something and you know, and someone in, they go, well, they never even called me. They never even apologized to me. I didn't even get some flowers or a card, therefore we're going to, you know, that's why we're angering. We're suing at the same time attorney say no, don't have any contact because it's like admitting guilt or it's putting you in this position. And it's just really sad because I'm sure they, they all feel horrible. But at the same time, it's like, this is a grown man. He's thirty seven years old. Yes, he was my child, but I stopped raising him at twelve and really had no relationship. And I don't want to be part of this awful thing, and I cry every night for this poor woman. I mean, it's just and then but now they're being portrayed as this rich preparing. That's just cutting off this poor little. Rough. You know, essentially our little Russian orphan. I think I think almost the best thing to do would be to settle. I mean, but because my I mean, that's maybe what's going to happen with a lawsuit. So now unfortunately, it's out there, but then they could do an out of court settlement and they could do a confidential nondisclosure that can do all of those agreements. They put it in. They could make it like almost like a pre-nup like, this is all you're gonna get up until this time you can't reopen. I mean, you can tighten things very, very tight, but sometimes the only way to do that is to unfortunately get the ball roll. Yeah. This point in time we have, you know, enemy is sad because a little girl lives in the Ukraine. Now in the whole idea was the mom wanted to be come to the United States, but maybe it's been a little girl is just with the one relative that she really needs to be with her family and she doesn't. Why does she have to be connected to the the liable family? I mean, I would hope in wrapping up. I mean, I would hope that this poor mother does get some money, and this daughter has some maybe not six million dollars. Maybe that didn't serve her dad. Well, right, maybe enough money that they could live a comfortable life and she could go and get hurt, you know, college paid for maybe even if not, maybe secret thing will come into play that when she's eighteen she has college money or whatever. It just very sad. But the thought that whole part is interesting because I do believe like, you know, siblings and parents should not be responsible for their child forever. And a grandchild is a grandchild, but it doesn't mean that you should give them money forever, but it's very sad and obviously she could use some aid, you know and they certainly have it. So we'll haven't seen the wrongful death complaint. But you know, one of the reasons could be one of the reasons may be that Amanda was actually a party to the lawsuit is because the first wife the first wife was maybe what they're saying is, you know, you had your with them for five years. You had an obligation to protect other people. If he was. Violent or abusive or or he was that type of person? I mean, there might be signed. Maybe they're trying to prove that and then now she's nervous. You know, I mean, it's very scary to be deposed or signed in a, or, you know, be served or anything else. I mean, it's like that chick has been that ones have been through a lot. You know, she married a horrible person who cheated on her and had a baby with someone else while he had another mistress on the side, and then he minded that person. So what's like, you know, I feel I feel badly that too. He wasn't shy or stable like she body vita bed in two thousand six. 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Repodcasting 40  Gangs of New York

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Repodcasting 40 Gangs of New York

"Re podcasting is part of the berta podcast network locally grown community support it. Have you ever watched the movie and wondered why it casts that woman or that guy. Here's our chance to give it a try re podcasting. Hello and welcome to another episode of re podcasting. I'm lucia has going janet. Hi disclosure to our listeners. I might be a little bit drunk. And i cannot wait to see how that unfolds in this episode. I still have some good portuguese wine. Leftover from christmas. I decided to partake this evening before we got started stuff will welcome back. We missed you last month Yeah i enjoyed that episode yet. I mean we missed you. But also i think you dodged a bullet well. I enjoyed the episode. I thought you and morita did an excellent job. And i will not be watching is why shut could good good. While for this month we are recasting. The two thousand. Two martin scorsese movie. Gangs of new york suggested janet. This was your picked. You wanna tell us a little bit about your history with the movie. Sure so this is quite an old movie. Nineteen years ago. I thought at the movie theater. And i remember at the time enjoying it for sure. It was a big deal when it came out But one thing about this movie that has always fat wrong with me was but the two characters. The nardo dicaprio and cameron diaz. I thought that they were completely miscast for this movie. So and i feel like this was a movie that had been on my list to recast for quite some time. So i was excited that we finally we finally got to it. I you know. I was not exceeded. I had actually forgotten. This was a scorsese. And i went through quite a lot of his filmography over the past couple of years. I don't like scorsese. I think there's one of his movies that i like and even then i haven't seen a long time so we'll see if it holds up but anyway so i remember when it was coming out a lot of the talk around it was how gory it is and i guess. I'm gonna use the word realistic. I don't know if that's the right word. But i feel like that's what people were saying like they're realistically showing this gang. Violence and super gory. And that's never appealing for me. But i didn't find it that gory like yes. It's violent for sure. No doubt but i don't know maybe i'm getting desensitized. I'll admit wait. I suggested this movie. I completely forgot that. This was a scorsese movie completely and i also forgot how long of a movie so long But i mean this is a huge at the movie. You're sure i feel like there's so much that we're serving up to our listeners. There's so much to impact so let's get into it like right away you bet. What was the box office so the budget for this movie was a hundred million and it did hundred ninety three point eight million at the box office so like one hundred ninety four million you know. The budget was super blow. It sure in your research for the movie. Electors the backstory on this movie and they ran into a lot of production issues. So i think that's what caused the budget to continue to to increase in like super bloated. I mean it was a huge movie and accolades to be oscar. Nominations they did very well. Well it got a lot of nominations. Zero wins so that's interesting. One thing that i found interesting about the budget was like i didn't see what the budget was. But i saw that because it was like going over. Leonardo dicaprio took a salary cut. And scorsese got no salary for the picture. I imagine he got like whatever you call it points on the back end or whatever but he did not take a salary. It was impressive in scope. Also that it can epic movie like if it's one of those movies that definitely if fans out move in the archives. Yeah and so. I had never seen it before. Obviously i think i met said that and watching it. I feel like there are some actors who don't really fit into a period piece through no fault of their own they just don't buy them in another era and cameron diaz definitely is one of those people and leonardo dicaprio to a certain extent. I would say. I don't really buy him in this era. Either which is funny because this is probably around the same time as titanic. No like in terms of like when it's taking place while titanic owns you mean like the actual time periods of the movie takes place. Yeah click nineteen. Twelve win was this. I don't know if it's said. Oh okay oh okay. This is like fifty years before no okay. This is what kobe brain is. Okay well. I wrote up a little synopsis for this movie. This was a tough one just because like when you have a three hour film. It's hard to try and compress a story into a couple of sentences but here goes in civil war era new york. The xenophobic nativist gang fights against irish immigrants and black americans one irish-american named amsterdam who saw his father die at the hands of bill. The butcher tries to avenge his father's death twenty years later. I think it was twenty years. I'm not sure you said xenophobic well. When i was watching this movie i blake now. Not in two thousand and two watching it through the lens of twenty twenty one. I was like wow america's still like. I know that's a hundred percent. Would i was thinking like okay There's been some evolution. But i feel like we're still seeing the happening. Yeah modern time. Oh yeah and this is like a hundred and sixty years later. Yeah like those natives were therapy. Basically like the white supremacists of eighteen sixty three the eighteen sixties. Proud boys uh-huh. Yeah well any who on. That's fun no nothing note. We will take a quick break. Thank our sponsors before we get into the recasting. Re podcasting is brought to you by park. 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I guess it's 'cause new york used to be called new amsterdam but look silly ireland. Of course why. Would you name warring in ireland. Why would they have called him amsterdam. Okay let's not get into this. That's so funny. I didn't think we should. We could go on about this. And then we have. Cameron diaz plays jenny redeem now. What i found really interesting. I have gotten was at daniel day. Lewis was the first rule is she took on after a five year. Absence from the acting. World you'd like take a little career hiatus he's gone off to italy and being a caller what is currently did while he took his hiatus he was lived in like this italian village and he was a cobbler. That is so perfect for daniel. Day-lewis oh i believe you. Well i don't know it could be a legend like put out there himself but i believe it that this is the first rule that he had taken in five years and it was a big deal right. This was a huge rule. I mean this is like the kind of role that is like a career definer. I think because it's obviously you know what i mean daniel day. Lewis is an amazing prolific actress. You can see that almost about all of the characters that that he creates but this one really stands out so the problem that you have your you have this incredible actor john lewis and then you have being ordered dicaprio and cameron hang on because in the past and we have it on record. You have touted. Leonardo dicaprio's acting abilities for sure and i do think. Leonardo dicaprio has become doctor over the years. Absolutely i think at this point in two thousand and two sure he was a good actor. of course he'd been acting for years since he was a child. Do i think that he was at the level of daniel day. Lewis no way completely upstages. The both of them. Yeah fair enough. Like he's a great actor by. I think the problem with this casting is that there's a huge imbalance in we. And what i mean by that is that you've got daniel lewis who is a heavyweight and then you've got leo who is definitely between him and cameron diaz. She's the stronger of the two for sure. But then you have cameron diaz who had no business being in this role. Yeah at this point. She had done a couple of dramatic roles she had been in any given sunday and then she did a beep. John malkovich so. I suspect that like they thought she hides some dramatic thread. Even though like. I don't know i mean it's debatable. Whether you think she was good in either one those films to me cameron diaz is always best in comedic roles. That's how i think of her. Like that's where i think. Her skills fact is best used. It can meet a girl. So i think that's the problem right there is there's an imbalance of wheat. Your leave to agree. Yeah i agree. Definitely i'm curious to know who you feel was on the same level as daniel day lewis. I think you know. I really passing. I mean this is what our whole podcast is about right. We're always we talk about casting in cascading. It's like an alchemy. You know what. I mean what its precise and it's gone right. It's magic in movies. It could be like the magic but when it's wrong and it's sloppy you can have the best movie but the casting can like ruin completely it totally and i'm not saying that the casting ruined this movie not by any means series so i mean it's a huge movie and it's let's face it. It's a gorgeous movie likely art direction. Cinematography like it's a beautiful movie to look at. What the accomplished awesome in my opinion. But i think that the casting is definitely. It's like a detractor for sure. Because you've got like these these two actors die. I'm not saying they necessarily hype. Be his level but they definitely should have. There shouldn't have been such a week. Imbalanced there is all thing. Okay so for the rule of amsterdam vallon leonardo dicaprio i three casts him with colin farrell One of my biggest problems with the whole leo dicaprio thing was the access. A cameron diaz. Like i don't know where they were going. See what happened and they would be gone. I feel like that's a criticism that is often lobbed this movie. It's like their accents and how bad they were. Even when i went to see the movie at the theater in two thousand and two like that was definitely something that i found distracting. Never thinking that it was distracting. Their accents were joe. Yeah so. I don't know if you saw this when you were doing your research but the person who was the film's voice coach. Someone by the name of jim march. I don't know if i'm saying his name correctly. He said that he wanted to focus. On the distinctive dialects of ireland and great britain s life. I thought when i read that was like what dialects was like. I if there are any people sure any irish people listening to this like please let us know what dialect these were that they were using in this movie. Yeah we're going to have to promote this episode in ireland because yes i want that feedback as well. I need feedback. I have actually been ireland. But also i found interesting. I almost felt like this voice coach. Kim gentleman was almost fish sending the way he sort of styled this because he probably received so much criticism aware of it because he said that the character of amsterdam vallon was born in ireland raised in the us so it was designed to be a blend of oxen typical of being half americanize. Yeah i feel like. I feel like you're defending like that. Almost feels like his back is up. He's defending. Because i know i didn't understand what kind of bled not was like. I didn't know where that is going to accidents. Were definitely a distraction for me. And i found them and i don't think i'm alone in notch In that criticism. For sure i read that as well about the amsterdam character and i agree with you. I think it felt like a defense because the accent was not. How can i put it. It's not like certain words. He would say with an irish accent or you know it was like. Sometimes he had the accent. Sometimes he didn't. And i don't think that's how that works exactly. So anyway. i cast colin farrell. Because he is irish. I think he would have done. Certainly obviously A better job at the accent. Of course you know leo dicaprio. Of course he's either dramatic actor for sure but there was something about his performance. That still didn't feel great for the role. And i don't know i mean. This is a character that he's angry. He's seeking revenge and while he was really you know maybe it's obviously it's the way the characters ripped. He was quiet. I don't know. I feel like leonardo dicaprio is not one of those actors who is good. I quiet subtle performances okay. I don't think that that where his skillset flourishes quiet performances like to me. He's not one of those actors who like e-e-e-e-no how there are some actors who a evoked quietly and they're so intense that even sometimes it's just a look in the eye says so much. I don't feel like leonardo dicaprio is is one of those. I don't feel that. She falls into that category. Whereas i feel colin farrell. Does i've seen enough of colin farrell's work now that i think he definitely has that kind of strength and the ability to emote in a really quiet way. I also think colin farrell's a really good crier lake. I don't know if you've ever seen him cry. Cry cry higher like he really when you see him cry he really like you get that deep sense of empathy whereas when i see leonardo di caprio cry. I don't feel that. I just feel like he's being super extra pride. That's just. I don't know it's just me baby so i would have liked to have seen colin farrell in this role and what he would have done with it. And they're they're actually about the same age colin farrell and leo dicaprio colin farrell's like four years younger so age wise. I think he would been fined for the role. And you know he already had done a little bit of work in two thousand two so he he definitely was not an unknown like people knew who he was. Perhaps he didn't have sort of star. Power that leonardo dicaprio did of course. Because you know. Leonardo did titanic and he was still riding that wave. He's still riding up. Please thirty years probably more than twenty anyway. So yeah like he definitely didn't have the star power but people knew who he was. What i mean for sure yet. He had already starred in tiger land. By that point. I remember that being lake a kind of like a star making performance tiger land and while it minority report. Yes well and he had done that. Movie phone booths. Have you seen that for sure. Yeah he was quite good and not though the absolutely. And that's not an easy rule eight liked colin farrell. But i would say that. Ought like but nana's abo- colin farrell. But i think he's definitely solid and i would have loved to see what he would have done with this role. It would have been different for sure So in the role of jenny every oh sorry are we not going to go back and forth. That's okay that's okay. i actually thank you. I totally would have let it go. Except that i was so excited that we chose to do it this way because i also chose colin farrell virtual. Hi-fi f- yeah. I think it's so hilarious. Because initially when i picked him i was like i wonder gentle pick him to like he just feels so perfect for the role both like the time in his career and the type of actor he is and like i a hundred percent agree with what you're saying about that like quiet intensity he can brood like nobody else like. I think one of my favorite call and feral performances. And i think you'll agree with me. Is his performance in the movie in bruges. yes right. Yeah yeah he absolutely great night away. Anyone who's listening. If you have not seen in bruges you need to see this. You need to feed bruce like yes and then. That's with brendan gleeson right jeff. That's right so they would have been working together here in this movie. Yeah that's amazing. I think that's so funny because also like when you were saying that you wanted somebody to kind of not be on par with daniel day lewis but you know be closer to his skill level. I was like oh okay. There's no way she picked call farrell. And then i'm so excited that you did 'cause yelich. I think he absolutely would have been so much better than leonardo dicaprio. Leonardo dicaprio at this point. Especially like i'm saying now you have to be really careful. He's reached that point. He's a movie star right and so he's reached that point where you almost have to be careful of what you put them in because it can easily be too distracting. And so while he wasn't necessarily at that point Back then. I feel like there's just something off about him being cast in this movie like it's not right it's distracting. And so yes. Somebody like colin farrell. I wanted somebody more intense. That's the the person i was looking for. So yes nice now go. That hasn't happened since they are third episode. Yeah so please go ahead with jenny. Ever deano cameron diaz the accent happening. What a mess right. Yeah oh a mess. While i think i said wow like so many times watching her. Wow i laughed out loud at this movie a lot more than i should have your own too for sure agreed so her accent was the worst. We agree on that. She was completely completely wrong for this role. I don't know how this casting came about. But it was wrong. She was a big deal. I've backed it was because she was also considered a box office. Draw for sure. She had a lot of movies under her belt. She was a hot commodity in two thousand and two. That's the only reason that that i can see for having given her this role because she was completely out of her ralph in this role to see her acting opposite. Daniel day lewis. It's almost like it's like. I was out of my body. It was like why why. Why is this happening. What's happening This is wrong I just wasn't buying it. I also did not by the romantic chemistry between her and leonardo dicaprio agreed nothing. I wasn't feeling the heat. I wasn't feeling anything there. I don't know it just there's supposed to be passionately in. Love is supposed to be like this super intense. Romantic and i was not feeling not. Yeah it was like what do you say to wet. Fish like yeah. There was no chemistry whatsoever. The shoes or the animal to cross together all wrong So anyway watching the movie. Now the more i watched it the more i was resenting her almost role because i was like this is a serious role. All this is. This is a great rule again okay. Granted she's kind of a prop rate like she certainly don't give her much to do like she's like a prop there. She's there for the men. Whatever it's a score. Sunday movie doesn't focus on the female characters right. Yeah i feel pretty confident in saying that. This movie does not pass the bechtol test. No of course. Not but at the same time. It's a plum role it's a prestige role in score. Says he fell and it just. I resented the fact that cameron diaz got it so on that note i re cast the rule with rachel vice. Okay because i love her. So i mean let's face it. The she's in terms of her acting tool kit. She's got it she certainly has a a broader toolkit as an actress she certainly has the skill set for this role. And you know what i find really interesting is. It wouldn't have been completely unheard of to cast her in this role. I mean she was already somewhat of a name at this point. It's kind of like on the same level as colin farrell. right a couple of movies under their belt. Rachel vase when she did the money. In nineteen ninety eight that put her on the map in terms of like the movie ralph rate if people knew her then she did. The mummy returns in two thousand and one and then that savior into governor to. She was actually in about a boy so getting like she was getting good projects rate. She wasn't an unknown so she totally could have been cast in this lake. Yeah wouldn't have been unheard-of or you know what i mean. Yeah and she wouldn't have had book. Sorry i was just gonna say she'd be great. I think she would have been amazing in this role. She concert do a better accent than young and she could. Go there with the drama. You could definitely Go to a different place with the character of jennie. And i don't know. I just think she would've made the role a lot more memorable for the right reasons a lot. When people look at this movie criticism that is often lakes. Thrown at us is like cameron. Diaz was wrong in this movie. And i don't think it's fair to pan. All of it on cameron diaz not at all. She's definitely like i think she really was miscast. And it's something that people remember about the movie. And you know the thing about rachel base too is i think she has better screen. President yes if cameron diaz. And i think she would have been amazing with colin farrell. I mean they hadn't worked together yet at this point. But i mean we've now seen them work together if anyone has seemed lobster which i know you have yes. And they were pretty hot in the lobster. Together i was. I was feeling that she would have really liked to. I think they would have definitely had a more believable romance sure. Yeah it would have been a lot steamier. That's for sure absolutely like you would've believed that. She was laying abandoning bill. The butcher who she had like a romance with right. Yes you believe him. Out of the bed colin. Farrell would believe it anyway. So that's my recast for jenny aberdeen. Okay well i ended up having to. I just could not decide. So i'll go with the one i think is less good. I in a lead up to the one. That i think is the best pick so i was looking for somebody who i thought could do an irish accent as well. That was definitely one of my complaints about cameron diaz and this i think maybe because just going in and knowing that cameron diaz in this movie end like even before seeing her just knowing that she's not the right person for the role. I think maybe my bar was really low. Because i thought i didn't think she was. Great by any means and the accent was terrible but putting the accent aside. I thought she was fine. Clearly there are tons and tons of amazing actresses who could do much better and who probably deserved this meaty role. So one of them is isla fisher. She fisher doing those rates. Yes so so. She is scottish descent and age wise. She's the same age as colin farrell. And at this point in two thousand and two. She had only been in terms of like hollywood movies. She had only been in. Scooby doo in a small role and then her like maybe not breakout. But we're when people started to notice her moore was two years later. And i hurt huckabee's the i know. I didn't learn about isla fisher until she did the wedding crashers. I feel like that was when people started talking about island fisher definitely when she became more of a household name for show but yeah. So that's the thing like. I think she would have been good. But if we're gonna play this realistically she wouldn't have been cast because they wanted a big name in that role. Yeah so on that. My second choice is jennifer connelly and turns out. She is of irish descent. Not born there or anything yet at this point so this is two thousand and two she had already done requiem for a dream in two thousand and a beautiful mind in two thousand and one so i do feel like she had enough of a name that it wouldn't be so crazy that she would have been in this and i think i don't know if she is ever done anything with colin farrell. But i could definitely picture it. I could see accent trying to picture jennifer connelly doing an irish accent. You know what. I think is really interesting. I think an irish accent is one of the hardest accents to do really. Yeah like. I think it's actually harder to do than a british accent okay. I don't know if i agree. I feel like josh an actor. Because i want to ask someone now like what is the hardest accent you british. Irish scottish amish is hard to right. I think yeah i think scottish is harder personally. Yeah i don't know if i've ever seen her doing accent. I felt justified in it. Just knowing that she is of irish descent and so therefore i made an assumption that she at least has grown up around the accent or has heard it. You know maybe has family members feared that she would have done a better job. Yes i think it fair. Yeah and also just. I really like her. I've said it before on the podcast. But she's a talented actor and she could yeah and she could totally hold her own in a role like this opposite. Daniel day-lewis opposite helen. Farrell i think she would have been terrific. Yes i definitely agree with you there. I think colin share all. She guessed well. No college in the movie lives yet but he is in my movie. Okay i see what. You're yeah definitely and i think that's key like i think she definitely pulled her own against daniel day. Lewis in a scene right. I think that's really important that bow gesture that balanced alc- me. You have actors where you have one that is like heavyweight and then you have another one. That's not up to their level at all. It's it's rose the balance off. Yeah a movie for sure and it becomes distracting things. Yeah and i think for me to one of the things that i was looking for in this role was somebody with a little more edge than cameron diaz. Because this is somebody who you know. She's playing certain role in her own life. But then you see that like you know. She's sneaky in stealing. And you know she's a pickpocket and she's sneaking into people's houses and robbing them and stuff. So i just feel like i wanted somebody who could be a little edgier and i definitely think both isla fisher and jennifer. Connelly have that i agree. I liked jennifer connelly. I'm not sure. I look fisher is great. I mean i think you know. I really enjoy her in everything that i see her in and i think she definitely has become someone who could do. Comedy and drama. Yeah the cheese versatile for sure but jennifer. Connelly i would ya. I think she would have been definitely interesting. Racer the role in two thousand and two. I left To green but Yeah i love that. We matched up that lake. So rarely happens. So so Speaking of the pickpocketing scorsese. Somebody called the magician. An italian pickpocket are who was known for pickpocketing for thirty years to teach him into yes. How to convincingly rob somebody which if you look at the scene on like the trolley when she's trying to seal the guys watch there's nothing subtle about it that is if that's what resulted from her training with this guy so this movie is close to three hours long. The original cut of the movie was one hour longer. Yes harvey i. There's a very rich box story to this movie right and i think anyone who's listening. I mean we're not going to sit here and talk about it because we be here for another two hours but anyone who is interested like i would definitely encourage them to google it and check out the back story because it has a really. I mean martin. Scores says he started working on this like in nineteen seventy. He got the idea. And i thought this was like a real labor of love for him something that he wanted to do for like twenty years. Can you imagine working on something for twenty years. I can't i can't either and then finally like twenty years later. If it comes to fruition right. Yeah so i think you know when you've worked on something for that long. It's not surprising that they become so emotionally attached to it and i think he definitely had some. There was a lot of conflict there with harvey weinstein who produced the movie miramax. There was a lot going on there for sure well rested. Anyone is listening in. Wants to read the like the backstory of kinda good gossip. I think that's really generous view to save up. You know it's because it's a labor of love and everything. But also i do feel like we have seen time and time again that this man just does not like to add it. His movies are always just bloated. I don't know i just to me. That just kind of felt in line with him as a director as a person. Yeah yeah sure i mean. His movies are always really sure. It's a long movie for sure. Mean anyone who decides to watch it like buckle and gets surround yourself with snacks in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight was one of the earliest iterations of when he was potentially getting it. Ready to be on screen. And one of the first castings that i saw was this is wild. I don't know if you saw this but Dan ackroyd as an and and john belushi as bill. The butcher in nineteen seventy eight. Those two were on. Snl that's not to say that a comedic actor can't do dramatic roles because i think in fact oftentimes those turn out really great but if that was the casting in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight this would have been a comedy no like i just. I don't see how it wouldn't be. I don't know. I feel like this type of novi like of this grand gail among like this would never have been made the seventies. I don't know yeah or if it had been it wouldn't have been on the same scale like it would've been forgotten by now. It would have been the epic movie experience that it was. Because i said this already. It's a beautiful movie our direction. The costumes that that was the one thing that watching it now from the lens of twenty twenty one. I was really impressed with. I don't think i was. Maybe i take note of it as much when i initially watched it but watching it and i was like beautiful movie like they did an amazing job on these costumes art direction. Cinematography like wow. I thought it was impressive. Like i'm not. But i probably would need to watch it again. Like short attention span. Like i think while watching it first of all for me. The opening kind of ruined a lot for me in the sense. That i don't want i know you love daniel day-lewis so i don't wanna like bash him. But in that opening scene his accent is coming through all over the place when he first opened his mouth and he sounds like a new york. Got good like that. The that's what it sounds like at the beginning and it threw me. I don't know about the voice coach. I needed jerry butler butler on project. I feel that that is a future career for you and i. It's like coaching for for some hollywood productions. Because i really feel like we're on the pulse of etch. I would love it listening network both available. I do wanna go. Just a little further into like the various castings over the years. Because i think it was really interesting stroh After she died then the next pair that i saw was mel gibson as answered him and willem dafoe as bill. The butcher female well to fo. I think definitely have played this and i think he would have done a fine job as well. Return agreed gap mel gibson. Toss like we don't end not just because of whatever personal things i feel about him. I don't think he would have been good in it but been the next round of casting. That i saw was malcolm mcdowell as amsterdam in robert deniro as bill. The butcher which i think that would have been an interesting movie. I'd like to see that. A malcolm mcdowell proper janiro. Yeah i don't know. I mean he's a great actor. I'm sure this would have been probably in the early eighties. I'm guessing so. Yeah at that time he definitely had you know that gravitas and he totally. I think could have been a really good bill. The butcher he ended up recommending leonardo dicaprio to scorsese. And then lastly i wanted to mention various people who had addition been considered at some point for the role of jenny. So these are the options that we had and they chose to go with cameron diaz. So we have sarah michelle gellar. Sarah pauly yes sir showgoers kind of a weird one. But i'm sarah polley. I think would have been good. Ultimately she didn't have the star power that they were looking for. Pristina applegate kate beckon sale. Kirsten dunst elisa elisa dish cou. I'm not sure how to turning. Yeah that's kind of a weird one heather. Graham bryce dallas. I know that's not a great option. Bryce dallas howard elicit milano. Natalie portman chris. Well yeah i could see her christina ricci yes right yes i see that yeah and then when owner rider and municipal very you know. We've we've talked before about these kathy. It's like throwing spaghetti on a wall. Badly certainly feels like it. Yeah because you go okay. How did eliza milano no and like. I'm not dissing a listen milano by any means okay. But she belongs in a certain spot and it's not an escort says he moving. How do you taught a lonzo and christina ricci or alyssum. Milano and sarah pauly. I agree and even like i love heather graham. I think she's wonderful. But i think she would have been all wrong for this. I can't we didn't even consider rachel vice. Yeah i know. Janet forget voice coaching. We need to be casting directors right there to be. The keeper of these see would be so that. That's my dream job. Yeah out into the universe. I think what a lot of boils down to for me is when i'm doing this. I'm trying not to for example. I'm picking isla fisher. Because i'm trying not to focus on like if they have the right star power if politically. They're a good choice to me. It's like do they have the chops or don't they but that's not how it works in real life. No it's not. I mean it's like we have touched on before it. All comes down to money box office. Who is going to put those offices in the movie seats and at the time in two thousand and two. Let's face it. Leo dicaprio cameron diaz. They were box office draws and put it boils down to but there's always other options like there's never just one box office draw rate humane one person always more than one. Yeah yeah do it. Who can fulfill the commercial aspect of it but also the artistic and who's really good for because it's like when you have really good precise casting it is it's magic it's it makes for a movie this memorable and it makes for something they can also be a commercial success as well because i guess you could say this was a commercial success but it did a hundred and ninety four million but they spent one hundred million. Yeah yeah to me. it's yes it is technically a success but it didn't sound like enough. The boss and i was looking at this. And i was an executive. I would be like this. Didn't make enough money because you bet hundred million dollars on this you should have made more dot is what i would say agreed. I think the tough king of daniel day-lewis that's perfection absolutely. It's an electrifying performance. That he gave. I mean he ended up winning the bafta for his performance oscar but he won the bafta. She was exceptional but he's two. It was wrong. What i find interesting about that because yeah of course. You're totally right. What they want is to get the butts in seats. I get that. But this is a scorsese. Pick in the early two thousands. He was already. This was a prestige project so it is surprising to me not that they want to make money. Of course they do but it is surprising to me that there wasn't a little bit more focusing on the artistic value of it or the artistic merit because yet clearly the reason that cameron diaz leonardo to capture in. This movie is butts in seats. That's the only reason i can think of. Yeah well anyway. We can get into the ratings for this movie on. Imdb it has a seventy two percent from thirty nine critics and then from rotten tomatoes it has a seventy four percent from two hundred twelve reviewers so really really similar beget. Yeah feels fair where it's at. Yeah so if you don't have any other tidbits no okay. Then we will take our second break. This episode of re podcasting is brought to you by the calgary foundation. Proudly supporting community needs for sixty five years whether someone is battling depression fleeing domestic abuse or worried about putting food on the table. It's times like these that inspire people to help others during a period of unprecedented needs. The calgary foundation is here to help through generous support of donors. The foundation offers a wide range of funding opportunities for organizations. Who share a common goal of building a healthy giving caring and resilient community one where everyone thrives if you're part of a registered charity looking for grant discover a wealth resources at calgary foundation dot org and learn more about the calgary foundation on their facebook twitter instagram youtube channel and it is time for our final segment home. Close young tony danza. It's time for me. Close young tony danza. The segment for sure the segment where we cast tony danza into one of the rules in this movie. And i'm excited to hear your pick tony danza. I wanted to give him a media role the could sink his teeth into. So i cast tony as walter. Monk mcginn was played by brenton gleason. Okay that's a good one for tony for higher. Yeah but also you can tell. He's like he has a code. He has a moral code. And also you kind of get said that he has almost sort of paternal kind of relationship with amsterdam. He's definitely looking out for him definitely trying to help him and support him working. I really could see tony in that role. I am not sort of paternal kind of looking out for amsterdam. I could see tony really shining in that rule so nice i like that. I think that's really good. Pick mine is a little cheeky. I cast him as bill. The butcher okay. So hear me out as i already mentioned when daniel day lewis i start speaking. He sounds like this brooklyn italian guy and honestly when i was watching the movie and he first opened his mouth. I was like is he. Trying sound like tony danza. And also i would love to see tony danza. Give it his all and like take on this lead role tony would give one of his sweet smiles and it would be all over the accident for sure a and i'm just realizing that we i think we've wrapped up this. I think meet some terrific. Picks and next month will be a surprise. You and i don't even know what it is. But it'll be a doozy and i promise it will be under two hours. Sure it's not gonna be a three hour extravaganza lake gangs of new york we. Yeah i feel dear listener. We've kind of put you through the wringer over these last. What three or four months So it's time for a break. We'll do something on the shorter side. And i'll probably slap on a little recording at the end to let everybody know what we've chosen in the meantime. If you have any suggestions for movies we should recast. You can email us at re podcasting at djamil or you can find us on. The various social media stuff's at re podcasting so janet. This was fun. Thank you for picking gangs of new york. So i could finally see it lose young. I can't believe you never saw this. This is one of those movies that should be on your movie watching tv for sure. Yep and it is in that one thousand one movies to watch before you die kind of thing. It's in that list so now when closer who is listening to us and who has not watched this movie you need to watch it like. It's just one of those to me. This is a modern classic. Nice i'm pondering i'm pondering because wile it wasn't for me even so there's still a lot there i really appreciate it and thought was very good. Anyone who has watched this. Please watch it. It's definitely time. Yeah okay well. Thanks janet and we'll see you next. Month i i again lucia. Here just wanted to let you know that. The movie for next month's episode will be failure to launch starring matthew mcconaughey and sarah jessica parker. So hope you get a chance to watch it and recast along with us see next month.

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Gwyneth Paltrow x Cameron Diaz: What to Cut Loose

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Gwyneth Paltrow x Cameron Diaz: What to Cut Loose

"Thanks for listening to the group podcast made possible by our friends at cotton. With four beautiful, an exuberant kids in my life, a business to run and a household that needs to stay on track I lean heavily on one ubiquitous workhorse in just about every facet of my life cotton is natural breathable and naturally hypoallergenic. But most of all, I widely depend on it for its durability. And because I value what I put on my body as much as what I put into it, I check the label for products made with cotton. To learn more about the benefits of cotton head to the fabric of our lives dot com. When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture you get criticized you do. Yeah. Did you hear about that? I didn't find the one I found someone I respected in. We made it the one in the sort of longing. Kind of you love people understand each other as if by magic nothing itself is addictive on an and everything could be addictive if there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be held I now know that nobody changes until they changed their energy and when you change your energy, you change your life. I'M GONNA paltrow. This is the podcast bringing together thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, finders, and CEOS scientists, doctors, healers, and seekers here to start conversations because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world. Here we go. I'm pleased to introduce one of my dearest friends as a guest on the podcast. Cameron Diaz is actor a bestselling author of to Wellness Books and now an entrepreneur. Cameron has recently launched Alva lean in organic wine line with minimal intervention additives that puts transparency front and center. Today we did what we do report ourselves a glass of wine and spend an hour talking about Vino, the power of manifestation, the axiom of turning forty, and how we strive philosophically, and Karma Kely to be responsible souls in the World Cameron has achieved immense movie career yet continues to stoker curiosity every single day, and it's been a joy to watch her ascension. Let's get to my chat with Karen Diaz how are you? I'm just so happy to talk to you. I have so much I want to ask you about but I think I would love to start with the wine because I'm always so taken with that entrepreneurial spirit that bites people and we just tell me a little bit about the journey of like why did you decide that this was going to be an exciting project for you we had that moment where we like to be love wine what's in it? You. Can really drink this can how can we drink more of it and we started asking questions about you know about our wine, which is so crazy because I had never done that before I just assumed it was fermented grapes that was my assumption and I've been going with it for years. I was making at the decision the best decision for myself but when you really look at. Everything that we're consuming were all making a real effort to consume organic consumer getting groceries were meets were really making an effort in our lifestyle to put that in place even with our skin products were pushing all this organic and it never occurred to me that wine can be made from anything other than just a beautiful great. That was as it existed as its own perfection and we realized that this naievety that there. is in fact, commercial farming in every category and no exception with wine that with we were trying to consume something organic was our wine organic on top of that how is it made? We found that there were seventy three ingredients that can be used in the winemaking process that was something I have to tell you start at her up do but I was so surprised when you started to tell me about this venture that. Wine was allowed to have all of this stuff in it and you said that a lot of times, it's not even Vegan. So that was one of the bigger surprises for us as well because. Who would have ever thought that animal byproducts could be used in the in the process of making wine now, it doesn't mean that animal instead it's in your glass, but the wine is passed through an animal byproduct in its clarifier. All wines naturally are cloudy, but that's not the wine that we're normal. We're used to drinking, and so we wanted our wine also to represent the wine that we all drink. So we use a organic plant based binder protein like Pea protein, premature tar, bet night, which are all organic and. We'd but when we found out that it was animal by products that were widely used in the industry we thought wow, that's so crazy. Just the fact that. It's not it doesn't have to be disclosed to us, but the wine industry somehow has gotten away with not having to be transparent about what's in the bottle that was what our main goal was to do was to find the wine that was made with organic grapes. That had minimal intervention. So our wines if you go to our website, which is drink lean dot com. You can see everything that's in our wine four. If I do. I got RAV. Has. I do the white or the Rosa do white. I think you'll like the white. I love it. I've taught it before. It's so good. I it's right. We drink some. Carry on so. We stayed on the bottle what we? Know is important to our drinkers, which is no concentrates no added sugars no artificial coloring your to me about how much sugar is put into wine because that was another thing you taught me that I really. I didn't know which is embarrassing but I was noticing that I love the I love wine no comments not not Gallery Collins and I noticed that at a certain after a certain age. And I don't know if it had to do with my ability to metabolize sugar or not but I stopped sleeping at night if I was drinking. Wine and with this wine ice can sleep. At sugar is that from sugar I think personally when I drink a wine at a higher sugar content what I when I look back now I'm like I got I felt more drunk. Bike high and low but I feel mostly the most important thing for me in the way that I feel when I'm drinking a wine that is with organic groups like our wine is is that I don't feel that really knocked in had the from what I think is the pesticides organic farming practices are also by nature just cleaner. You're not getting a bunch of toxins and chemicals into the waterways the with the runoffs you're not putting it into the soil, the degrading of the soil, the water table, all of these things that commercial farming really we're all we've been trying to break. Free of this big commercial farming we feel really good about the fact that our arms are generational farms who've been farming this way for a long time forever, and that are winemakers have a real reverence for their land because they're all they've all grown up on that land, their fathers on that land. There's father's modern grew up on the and they've been making wine proper. It's a really we feel really happy and proud of our who we partnered with because it in wine is well. So if I had a vineyard for twenty years, I've only had twenty times to make a wine. You mean, you've always been a huge task of trying to democratize wellness and make it much more accessible practice for everybody. A lot of people organic price points are high I. Think one of the great things that you're doing with Alva lean that it's a very affordable bottle of wine and it's completely organic. So have you managed to do that it's it's hard to. We want to be able to bring this product to market at this price point because we don't, we know that it's this kind of a sweet spot. We know that a couple of dollars more makes it less a less accessible and we know that people are really trying to allocate the money to the things that they find her and we all know that why? Like lands onto that I really want it but I don't always I can't I'm not I don't need it I don't know some some days. Somedays Lama need. Momma needs. Me Need No. So little bit of how today. It wasn't you fall in love with it. When I was like twenties I had a really unique experience when I was in my twenties that I got to drink some really amazing wines. I had some people who I was in the circle with that were wine experts and I here. I am just like this twenty three year old girl just getting poured like these tours and like these amazing auctioned bottles of wine. Just like. It's happening. This were you in France when this happened. It was all over the world. But yes a lot of time in Paris. Lynn's Muir you. were. Always kind of well for how I saw you. Anyway, you were always this incredible actresses amazing movie star. And then at the same time you. Had this incredible curiosity and I think we're like in that we love to share good information that we learn and we want to bring that to our friends are wider circles in the world and. Where do you think that started when I look back at the body book and the longevity book talk about a science nerd you went so deep in that process and what do you think? Where do you think that spirit comes from in you? I think mind mom's very similar in that way. My Mom just is like that encyclopedia random shit like you just ask her something and she's football Blah Blah Blah and I. Guess I just kind of got it from her where in in some ways it's I love it because my brain just has these files that I have a lot of information about but I always think about saying a, what is it jack-of-all-trades master none? Yes I really wish and I i. have you add and Dyslexia and all these other things that I never knew really that how they that I did I just look now and see like reasons why I couldn't focus on things are the reasons why it's hard for me to. A Lot I have to listen to a lot of things get a of my information from listening. He'll. Love this this age of podcasts but I do obviously I've done a lot of reading in my life, but I'll go with the body book. It was so much more informative for me to go and meet with the. Doctors and the scientists I can gain much more information on that one on one experience in listening and asking the questions that all those end. So where does the urge to share come from I love when I when people like I love learning things. So when I learned something unlike so excited that I learned it, I might wow, that's I never even thought of as the same thing with the wing all I wanna do is tell other people so that they can. Go No way Oh my God, and then they get excited about it, and then I love that when people have that moment for themselves, the way that I've had it and then they tell somebody else and they get to have it in the information is spread I. I don't know there's just something that I really I love. I really want people's lives to be better. I think is what it comes down to I. Know that every bit of information that I've ever. Obtained whether it's about something that you know beautiful or something dark or something like progressive or something that's baseline. All of that knowledge I used to try to make my life better and I assume that's what everybody does. My presumption is that if you get this information, your life will be better because you now know something that you didn't know before and whenever we expand our minds our experience and will we get it takes us another. Path. I. Think that growing up where I grew up in. Long Beach really knowing that I didn't have any other options when I started to get to all I knew that I wanted to see the world because I knew that what if I left mom each and I got to see other things that it would just my journey would take me out and I would expand and that's all I wanted to ever do I just think. Wife as this ever evolving journey, and I'm not a stagnant person I'm not good at staying in one place. I'm doing the same thing all the time and I think when you you exemplify this. Oh, well, you manifester but you also I think. You convey so well, that anybody can be a manifest in their life, right like you grew up in a situation and you're like. I. Think I want to know more and go other places and I want more exposure and you just manifested of it and don't you think that everybody has that power within them to some degree. I. Think so I think what it takes though is we have to out go outside our comfort zone. So Dodd. Burst challenge is to go. I don't have. There's an unknown out there and. I have to go through that unknown to gain the knowledge. It's the other side to keep taking this. Johnny. Keep moving forward and I think that's when I was when you're young and you don't know any better and you don't really know. What it means, how far the fall is and how hard it's going to hurt when you land. You you just delete what feeling would you say needs to go with that feeling of manifestation. Her Age and I think also excitement, you really have to just try to find the thing that excites you passionate that you're passionate. Think everybody I always remember when I was a kid when I look back all the things that I was curious about when I was a kid, there's still all the things I was curious I'm curious about now they're exactly what like what are? The Earth, science animals that relationships with people why people do what they do. You think here. Or whatever that feeling is the curiosity with powered manifestation and Courage does that change from your twenty s as a woman to your forties? Thank you just build a life when you're in your twenties and thirties in your forties is you know it's a completely different different thing completely. But here I am I'm in my forties I'm completely starting over I decided at the beginning of my forties can. Start over after having a whole life that I did something very at a high level in does feel different I. think as we in our twenties were just trying to figure out where like I'm so messed up your realizing how like damaged you are in this way like where you're like wait a second, there might be an issue here and then in your thirties you're like, okay, I'm getting my flooding and then you're in your forties, you're like Oh my God I gotTa do something about this half better get my head out of my. Civil right away. This taking up, but you know it's Funny Funny Journey. But I got here for sure I think that what I realize is that. Where am I now don't like I just become comfortable. With the not knowing anything like not knowing what's going to happen that's sweet spot if I start to worry at all about anything. old faith that things are going to work out because. No matter what because I way I go. I know that all I can do is make the best decisions remind me and my family period whatever they may be I don't go I'm going to end up here I go I'm on a journey and I only want my half on this journey to. However. Slow or however quickly I want it to be always on an ascension like I wanted to ascend I wanted like steadily upwards of you. Ascended the more you let go. For sure like you cannot like holding onto anything is just like deadweight on your ankles you can't. You're not GONNA get anywhere. That's what I realized and I can't have too many. I have too many examples in my life where I held onto things for too long and whereas in I can just see where I was stuck. I was just in these really hard places when I was being dragged down and In my forties I just go. Everything's gotta just I. GotTa be quicker to identify the things that I've I'm holding onto and cut them loose my best to make the decisions that helped me move forward and upward. We'll get right back to the chat. And two, thousand eight. I started goop with a weekly email newsletter that contained simple healthy recipes and new to me modalities for wellness and mindfulness in short goups. Origin story is rooted in service, and we're still here to provide things that make our modern conscientious and busy lives feel friction lists to this day. That's why we depend on cotton for households and workplaces from batting to clothing. Cotton is durable, natural, hypoallergenic, and breathable, and moreover works in a myriad of course. That helps make life. Feel a little softer. So when we purchase are towels, sheets and sweatshirts, we make sure to check the label to ensure we are purchasing one hundred percent cotton. To learn more about the benefits of cotton head to the fabric of our lives dot com. Okay. Let's get back to the conversation. Is it part of the axiom of turning forty and beyond like I often wonder people say, Oh, what would you tell your younger self and it's like self would've listen to any bullshit I said but then something happens I always had felt around forty where there's this shift I we say to my colleagues it's young than I am you get this involuntary software upgrade when you're forty and then you can do with it. What you will so I'm sure that was part of it seems to be just a natural demarcation or like chapter in our lives. But when you turned forty, you really had or soon thereafter you you really had a big. Life. Change you just referred to it as starting over. So what do you mean by that? Starting over when you're forty? I just decided that I wanted different things out of my life gone so hard for so long working making films and it's such a grind and I didn't really make any space for my personal life, and then I decided not to to stop making movies and really focus on my personal life my personal relationships with my family, my friends, and then Benjamin that each other and we got married pretty much immediately because we both knew that we had to be both had to do. It we needed to have this. You guys are like the show that I'm watching on Netflix married at first sight or you get married right away and then you like work it all out like through the process. So good. We really did went hard for a few years where we just ironed out in hacked it out and it was it was a lot of work but it was really we had Jim I'm older than him but not such older but he's he was at the place in his life to where he wanted to do that. Well, you can't do it if the other person isn't. No and you have such a great willing partner in him in terms of commitment to work. And that's really at the end of the day. All you can ask from a partner right is that they're committed to the process and committed to the work. And you both have to be one, hundred, percent, one, hundred, one, hundred percent of the time. Was it scary to walk away from maybe not because I'm sure you could go back whenever you wanted but was it. What did it feel like to walk away from a movie career of that magnitude? That's that much success a piece I got a piece in my soul. Because I finally was taking care of myself like even when you're saying that I was like. Did and it's a strange thing to say I know a lot of people understand that I know you understand it but it's such a an it's so intense to work at that level and be public and put yourself out there. There's a lot of energy coming at you at all times when you're really visible as a as an actor in doing press and putting yourself out there. In you really energetic I am sensitive to energy some energies and not others but I it does. I. Do get the overwhelming energy of the attention that's being put towards me and also I really when I stopped I. Really. Looked at my life and I saw what I had been because when you're making a movie. It's a perfect excuse. They own you. You're there twelve hours a day for months on hand you have no time for anything else and I realized I had it off parts of my life to all these other people. And they were they took it and some people did I had to basically take it back and take responsibility for my own life. That's my job. There's a lot of things that I had to iron out and a lot of relationships and I had to repair a Lotta relationships I had to build that I was absent in my life and let go of to you you had. Like. Go recalibration. Yeah. It was like a very like a cleansing Nj and what would you say like the thesis of that was to get It was like operation get closer to yourself or what would thesis of that time be. Actors Infanta. We're put in a position where everything's taken care of for us you go to set everybody wants to carry your bag and puts you in. You're not allowed to do anything God forbid something happens to you then it can't finish. and. You're already on film and. Insurance days in life all of these things, and then you're responsible for all these multimillion dollar picture that you have to go out and your press for market and all these things in his just overwhelmingly your life just become. So narrow and people everybody's doing things for you and your catered around and I never felt really truly comfortable that wasn't my. Comfort zone the taking care of on what I understood was part of the job, and for me I needed to become self sufficient. Again, I really needed to know that I could take care of myself and that I how to be an adult and I knew how to. Navigate the world of the complexity of being an adult and having responsibility and putting all the pieces of my life together the way that I wanted it to be put together not how other people thought it should go and really dig in and through the weeds and say like all these little pieces of the machine, these mechanisms that were functioning, they were off functioning they just I was out of touch. With. All of them and I didn't really I just I felt got too comfortable with everything just the wheels turning and the fact that it was they were working and we're moving board but then I said, okay. So where do I want how do I want my life to function? Where do I go and I'm the architect that I am the person on the captain I need to look at how? I'm going to get there and be responsible for that like more philosophically responsible or for yourself. KARMIC Lee responsible for yourself not only I can carry my own bag. But just really taking accountability and understanding the responsibility of who you are as a soul in the world as opposed to a movie star. And did you come to? Knowing yourself in a different way. Absolutely I do I learned a lot about myself. It's angel. It hurts Gary and I actually Credit Benji lot for that. He was like a real I broke that mirror about a thousand times when he put it up to me and I was. Encouraged. John Show me that news like look bitch. was like. Okay Yeah you WANNA see a there. Look at that. and. It was not. We both knew it was necessary I could. Thank God. Thank God do you think when you were in? Kind of movie star Mode and I just WANNA. Say just everybody knows like you've always been even when you were full into people carrying your bags movie star mode like so down to earth such a good person. So caring everybody around you. So that's important to note but I wonder if that. Level of cocooning tension energy. And really objectification. If you feel that maybe it had a detrimental impact on. Your Ability Your capacity for intimacy or. Thousand percent there was a lot of things that impact in my capacity to. Go back to nineteen seventy two. I was actually thinking about it last night and I was thinking like self esteem is such a weird thing. People really think I the so for so long I thought I had like really great self esteem like I was like I really know I'm I have great self esteem. I just realized I have shit something. Terrible. South Estate. and. It was shocking. I. Didn't realize how it manifests itself and how it like it crippled me in certain areas of my life and I think that my self esteem when you don't. Now, I think that I think self esteem is one of those things that you carry your whole life. It's not just like all the sudden something happens and you get the glades opt out from underneath because people get their legs up knocked out from underneath them all the time and really good at self esteem they get back up. Walking but like it's something that is a really, it's really challenging to be aware of it and identify at when it's working against you and to do the work that you need internally to help yourself move past like the feeling of by that you're not kidding what self low self esteem does, which make you different decisions whether it's to try to get attention someplace or to sabotage yourself or just talk to yourself in a certain way that isn't loving deeping. Self self-esteem. Get Sat when you're young and then what you build on top of it and around it or do you think that it grows and heals as you go through life? I think it's definitely happens when you're a child and gets layered upon we do we start making all these decisions at a young age off of our self esteem and we find things that work for us so we keep doing it. And we do it until we realized that it, we don't need to do it that way anymore it's actually working against us because as we evolve when you're a child certain things work for you. But when you come a teenager or young adult those things, you're not a child anymore. So you don't need to use those mechanisms as a young adult and when you're young adults and you become a grown woman. The things you do at twenty five are not the same things that were functionally. Functions in your life in the same way, you don't get the same results at forty that you did at twenty five with those defenses or those the way that you react or. Navigate, a certain situation based off of what we're twenty or twenty five. As the mother of a girl. Are There Certain strategies you have laid out or certain things that we want to have her avoid or to teach our like how. I always think it's a fascinating when we have a girl right because there's so much. Yeah I just. I. Her and I know it's impossible. But I really just want her to be free of objectification. Way Shape or form. So like when people are like, she's so cute or she's so pretty people just she's appreciate actually some cute kind of have to breathe through that mummy. She's a baby right now but I don't want her to identify with those. I don't want her to be like. I'm pretty cute. I want her to be like I'm me when I look at her, all I wanna do is help her be her period. That's it. That's all I'm just learning every day. She's Revealing she's able to reveal more and more every day who she is and I'm just trying to keep up with her until I. Go you want this you want that you want to go here whether it's me facilitating it or me helping her to understand that she can't do that yet until she learns what it means in the most gentle way so that she understands that when she when I say you're going to get hurt doing that like her she has no concept of that yet. Thank God she has nothing's touched her yet would. But when she's going for an edge, just keep telling her that's an edge. You don't know what that means yet. You're GONNA fall and you're gonNA get hurt and then it's interesting because at this age it's really easy and then All of a sudden they're older and they do things that might be out of alignment with your opinions about things that you're not even aware of so much of it as conditioning in patterning from our parents and transpiration stuff, and then you're like, you have to catch yourself. And can't believe Apple's sixteen at. that. I know and so that you know I read this quote I. Think it was attributed to bank see the painter and it said something like children will do no. Sorry it said member parents really parents will do absolutely anything for their children these days except let them be exactly who they are. I love that and it's true and you fall into the trap but it's so nice that you're going into the consciousness of parenting from that place and not lack of judgement. And expansiveness I. Think. It's part of being a an older mother. I mean being a mother at the age that I am I don't think I could have been the spare twenty five would not have been a bit become a mother if it wasn't for you you. To talk like I'm having kids and you are having kids, you're getting married having children. WHO's like? You're like you have to do it. You have to, and I was like I'm not going to do. On me all the time you like you have to you don't understand if you don't do this, you will be so sad that you didn't do it, and so I, credit you so much with the fact that you never let up on me I would say encouraging and also. But you're. I think I could see an I knew. But And Natural Mother you are some women aren't. But you I was born to do it. And all of my I'm not going to do this fear yeah. I was just scare I was afraid I was afraid I wouldn't. Find a partner had no locked. In my life. Yeah. You had some real humdinger and they're. Like I said Lo. De Railed on per. person you know what I want to ask you gene you have. I've never asked you this question but do you have regrets about your life? I don't think that you can regret anything everything's where it should be if I didn't do all the shit that I did like all the stuff I wish so many times in my high. That out soon. Why didn't that? We like. Oh. You're right where you need to be. Right where I need to begin just goes back to making the best decision that you can in the moment that you may end up where you're meant to be just trust your gut and what do you think the factors are for making a good decision. I always believe that little anytime but I, didn't listen to that little voice inside that was screaming at me to do something like. This and I was shot up. Like I whenever I don't listen to that voice I end up in the wrong place in a place that I had to dig myself out. It's all you. Hopefully, you'll be OK, but like I've made some pretty bad decisions like. That Voice Listening, to the little voice was cheered, gut. And you can't. You never know for me the way I think about things is that. We're not. In control. There's no guarantee that the that we make will yield the result we think it will even if we think it's a guarantee that it will something anything can happen at any time and that there is no control like we don't have control over this verse. Though I just think that I for when I make decisions, I always remembered what and I don't get to hold onto tightly to what I hope. The end result is I'm ready to be Agile Bob and weave and disease as coming at me. I look at it and I go. I try to scan really which one just jumps out at me as like the right one right now for everything it's problem solving mentality. Bench bench is the same way and we're just like, what's the issue? How do we solve it? Nothing's. GonNa Crush share this. Absolute like well, we're I guess we don't do it or that was now. Okay. So how do we get around this? How do we make this work again commitment to the process beautiful. What else do you do? You're going to drink wine what you're GONNA do to make the process on a long way. Thanks for listening to my conversation with Karen D.. I'm happy to share this nourishing conversation between two friends. You can find Ahleen wine at drink offline DOT com. That's a wrap on today's episode. 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