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"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"The skin than will form around that shape and kind of seal too that whatever You know because it's skin that basically right yeah exactly and a piece of molded plastic. That's under heat and pressure is. It's never going to take another shape. It is going to fight taking another shape. No matter what you do. It's you could take a two liter bottle and you can squeeze it in crush it in. It's just gonna pop right back out into original shape internet in a sense. That's what the drum heads are doing. And when when the head. I got infected. You had these guys who were very excited about the possibility of of not having to deal with all the issues involved in in in cath heads and also the increase in volume and resonance as the amplifiers are getting bigger. You know people are trying to figure out how to get the same volume and compete audible in these arenas and and so you have these guys. They they go down to the head factory and measure the shape that the heads are being molded at and go back to their drum building factories and start cutting that shape Into the edge of the drugs knowing full. Well that you're you're not going to make plastic Reshat maybe at jazz tensions at a snare. Drums can get away with it. Because you're getting enough tension to start pulling all of that out but for the most part aplastic has never gonna take another shape. And so you've got somebody you know bradsher camco were rogers and these guys create different bearing edges that are similarly shaped for the time and that shape is very similar to how reema was molding. The heads in how evans was falling the heads in their factories. In and and then they they. They put these into their brands. This this shape and it's usually rounded on the outside and a as companies get bought and as the original designer engineer is is long gone and efficiency expert says well why are we doing. Double the work on this When we can just do this. Single cut.
"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"So you do see those for camco and gretch. I've never seen a fleet foot one. So that i'm i'm led to believe that that's a camco invention. So they produce them for awhile without changes in the in the mid sixties Maybe at this point they're producing drums their bigger company. They probably have bigger budgets. They have are indeed department. I'm sure they start making changes. So the leather strap would stretch out so they made a nice lawn strap which turns out also stretches out but at the time they they may have thought that it was better and it probably was better in terms of long term durability but they also changed the rocker cam so it's a pressed steel plate chrome plated instead of the the cast or machined aluminum piece and they there's a period where they weren't producing the one for the one piece flipboard they start producing that again.
"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"Yeah it was a big one Dave Save Houston and But a lot of people feel a lot of people the first endorsers were bill broussard. Who has a big fan of Billy COBHAM and Call Palmer when we went with When I went with pro mark and then from there a Lotta people? Ringo used them there and I don't know it's endless. Some people call just endless of people who use them so yeah so now everybody. Wh what I think it really did was. It opened up that whole field before people were making drums. You're on that whole field of what you hit the drums with now. It's like mind boggling with their make and what they're making what you can hit a drum with and that's really Open just really opened it up. You know drummers have all these different utensils to work with we live in a very cool era What just kind of always been that way of innovative things Coming out with drums. It's kind of in the the The George Way you know these these new things popping up and inventions and all that stuff and some of them go away some of them stay and the really good ones stick around forever right right. Yeah you want to think of that mall tyrod type drumsticks. They'd probably go back hundreds of years. Well I did an episode about the history of Drumsticks and we were talking about how I think there was a Mozart piece piece that called for. What is it right routine yet? Exactly and and that kind of was mind blowing because I was thinking I was GonNa say oh Joe Luma and hot rods odds and And then he was like well. They go back to To Mozart's time so what's old is new. Yeah Yeah Cool. Now they're everywhere. Yeah Everywhere Joe. Where can where can people find you? I mean if they want to get in touch. And maybe see. If you're selling any CAMCO sets or get some advice as far as finding Camco code drums I generally bring et Cetera to to Chicago. I sold the last year. I actually Steve Steve. Maximum about that kicked up that charcoal Maury set from me last year. the Chicago jumped show. There's usually a couple sets. They're for sale Online of course everybody is Ebay or or reverb you know. Oh Yeah and But CAMCO is hard to find. They just didn't make many drums and One thing great about it is the price stays consistent. They're never gonNA. I don't think they're ever going to go down in value. So it's a good investment right right like kind of like gretch round badge. Eighteen inch kits you. I know there're always but there's a lot of those there's quite a few eighteen inch round baskets CAMCO sets like I said if you go on Ebay right now. I don't doubt there was a there was a maple set on their. Yeah pretty low double Bass and Mabel said I think that went just went so once in a while they show up they're pricey but it just it's supply and demand You know I I paid more for some of the most of get quite a few kids and they're meant can mow all almost mint condition now and I paid. I've always paid the most and this goes way back before Ebay and Where we had to deal by phone and you had to ask? What conditioning is somebody? Somebody would say well. It's a six hundred ten. I have no idea what that means is excellent mint condition excellent meant. Is there anything wrong with it. No nothing at don't zero no script. Okay I I want it and I would pay more just because there were no problems when I would get it and it's like okay. There's no extra holes no scratches milk CNO Russ no kidding. It's meant and so and I always knew that Mitt kids people will pay more for meant. Eventually it's just people. So trump kits take a lot of room. You have two dozen drum kits. You gotta take a Lotta space to guitars. Not so not so much no. Yeah so drummer are a lot fussier about their stuff. Deter collectors say you drummers or so fussy wanted yet we have put put two thousand two dozen trump sits in the closet really see why yeah each one is two thousand dollars or something I mean you WanNa be. Yeah he went to be right. Well they get tired you just move the decimal point older one. Because They don't flinch thirty thousand. Okay okay sure here you go. Yeah awesome well Joe I Appreciate you being on the show and telling us about CAMCO because honestly honestly like I said. It's this company that has like a like a mystique about it like there's there's just not everyone knows about it everyone knows. Dwi everyone knows. Tomah people. A lot of people know George Way. But I'd say George Way and Camco and just a cool kind of Part of history that that is not talked about a lot so I appreciate you being there. Well I appreciate you having me bar you expend pong absolutely and I will definitely see you at the next Chicago drums. I'm show which is the thirtieth anniversary. Joe Is sand before To me that he has been to every single one except the first one and There's no plan on stop-and even maybe the second one to my forget forgetting. Maybe I've only been at next next thirty. Maybe I've only been to twenty seven out of twenty eight That's still go back and feet of a missile. The thirty year anniversary next year rob cooked puts on this show. It's phenomenal for anybody. Who has not seen it? There's people from I'm all over the world there the clinics all all everybody's phenomenal at the show and everything and next year is going to be the big one third year anniversary. I'm gonNA bring him really. I'm going to bring a real special billy. Gladstone's near Jim the show Among other things so We're we're going all in so anybody who hears this. Get your tickets for tickets for the Chicago show next. May It's in Mesa. May that'll be a lot of fun and can't wait fun. You'll be there bark right. Yeah I'll be there and we'll be hanging out and talking. I got a cool picture of Mike. CARATTO and Mark Cooper sitting at your booth Giving a thumbs up with a drum history sticker. So that's that's pretty neat or they're sitting by tall my nice Nice tall director's chair director's chairs. Yeah all right Joe. I'll let you go man. Thanks for being on the show and I'll see you in May okay. We'll see may thank you all right. Bye Joe Okay. bye-bye the if you like this podcast find me on social media at drum history and please share rate Lever Review and let me know topics that you would like to learn about the future until next time keep on learning this Gwynne sound podcast..
"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"We brought it into the studio and we put A. They had a Yamaha recording custom set. And let's put these up and we put them up everybody was it's pretty amazed at how good they sound now. I'M NOT GONNA say it sound better than a recording custom. They sound different. Everybody has their idea. Of what good is you know recording recording custom drum. Sort of you know nice sounding drums but I like I just like the camp goal. Oh you know these I this is the sound I like when I heard him mm-hmm I don't I collect everything. I collect LUDWIG ROGERS FL England. But I play Campbell. That's the only thing I play. Ground Batch love those numbs not doc crazy about the tall hoops Because if I use a superfund Gra different snare drum. Even an old twenties Ludwig sneer Jim. The hoops are lower and my Tom. hoops are higher. And I. You know it's like I ended up. I'd rather have the Tom hoops. The same height or even lower than the snare drum. And I an eight lug twelve inch drums hard to get another hoop on my CAMCO drums. I switched hoops. I don't use those tall roll over hoops. 'cause they stick up too high. I used the era they had where the brass hoop regular triple flange brass soup. That was from a short air before they went to a cheap cheaper hoop from overseas in cool. Now there's no there's no like sonic difference in using these round lugs. It's just kind of a George way being innovative and being different sort of thing right. Well I'd say you'd have to physically look at the drum you say that's a lot of hardware mounted on that Shell Sir and I know the twelve inch drum. I have to put on a rinse Mount Mount that directly fly mounted on the base gym. It seems to dead the it didn't drummers Jadan about almost every drum sounds better on rinse mount but especially CAMCO One of the minuses there. Heavy drums especially league the Bass Drum. Because they've got these big chrome this big washers lifting the lug higher so they'll Go over the a counter hoop the head to head. So fit onto the The clause so if they don't angle in you know they have to. They have to pull the lugs out father. If you take all those washers in your hand they're heavy So they're heavy drums Another the lugs aren't real. Strong inspect the old George Way. A lot of times. They'll be volcanoes or blown out cracked out. They want to pull out especially the old days. With calf skinheads people would tighten them and not loosen them. Forget about it. And when the casket wants to go back it's powerful and it would just blow them lugs right out so they had week lugs their throw offs had were known to break. There's a little Little partner that's A weak weak point and and You know they're they're Tom. Holders later went the best but you know so they had. They had their minuses. But they're pluses jasper shells nights bearing edges. It is wide. Tuning range and Microphones just love them drums. I just the way they sound so but back to the lugs I would I kinda liked that new. Look that drum workshop makes that on their performance series It's a lot. It's about two-thirds two thirds the size that it's it's just smaller and that yeah and it's less mass on the shell lighter weight cheaper to make If I if I I prefer that when I get it but you know they are what they you know. This is what you get on a Camco drum. They're very iconic and And so so now so now. I'm actually working on getting them on the show and I met him at the Chicago Drum show so ron dinette of dinette classrooms. He owns basically glee all of the George Way Trademark and a lot of his patents and stuff like that so I just think it's good to note and also people can check out. I forget the episode number. I think it was episode six or seven I had rob cook on the show talking about lady and the leeway book so so Joe was talking about earlier. You can refer back to that and Here a little bit more about George Way there but so question and for you if I were to want to get into collecting Cam Coz what is my best way to do that. Like how much money do you typically need to buy a nice Steve Drums set. That doesn't need A ton of work is this like a craigslist can a lucky find thing where they a little bit harder to come across yeah Camco. Drums are rare in the early days. I ended up with a lot of CAMCO drum sets because Well first of all Jim. Let's go back. John Aldridge opened up the floodgates for collectors with his not so modern drummer started out as a pamphlet and all of a sudden he created a community of people. I thought I was. I thought there were only a few people in the US with the same disease that I had to vintage drum thing thing and all of a sudden I get. His magazine. Was All this list of people who happen you know where are collectors and my my phone. Bill went through the roof back when you had to pay for long distance phone calls. But everybody's got and We listen before Ebay or craigslist or any of that stuff and it was just you know talking talking on the phone and So back then everybody I I I like camco drums. I just loved the way they sounded and people would have CAMCO set. They call me and I'd just to sell it to me and I'd ask them. Have you played in. And they said they usually say no. I play Rogers or I played. Ludwig I I play. I play around batch. I don't play camp. Goes you do you know. Most people don't even try them just would launch him and you know I'd end up so I ended up with a lot of sets and And then I had a business. I was selling bynum selling you know. Of course I collect a lot of different things to you. Know just It's it's all over the map of what I collect but I play CAMCO drums I had a business and all of a sudden my business took off. We got back ordered on a product addict that I made in All of a sudden all these camp goes everything else is coming in. It's just getting piled up because I can't I don't have time to get it out. You know and so I ended up with a lot of drums and I've sold a lot of camp goes says. In fact I see a lot of my camp goes sets out there Your baby either on Ebay or you know in fact I just saw this morning Steve. Maxwell has a video comparing the new drum workshop Santa Monica series which they tried tried to duplicate a CAMCO and compares it to one of my old sets that I played a lot of gigs on. It's an old Charcoal Moray which amaury is the satin finish scandals word percent and flame and Twenty inch base twelve fourteen with the matching snare and he compares that to a The new DWI field and Only thing on my kit That kit originally they came with straight legs straight legs on the floor. Tom They will shut it off. They will stop it from resonating. So you want the flared legs And also like I said with the twelve inch top town. It's a good idea to put it on a rim. Smiled or something. Hunting isolated a little bit. But but you get a good idea what CAMCO is sound like. It's a nice recording bolts drums and but the D. W. has a beautiful finish rush. Oh Man I love I love the colors. They do but But anyway you'll get an idea of what a Camco drum sounds like there's a good You know on Steve Maxwell a site and Yeah but it's funny. There's like I see my all set all the time I'd see my Was it How long ago two thousand twelve or I don't know I had two little CAMCO? Eighteen inch kipps red. They're both red sparkle. One was an Aristocrat round-lead kit and the other was the Tuxedo cigar shaped like kit. Both eighteen twelve fourteen times matching sneers both of them side by side. Lighten both of those left me. And I they pop up from time to time online or on the forums drum forms and So it's kind of funny to see my see my old my kids all over the place. Yeah well it makes me think of CAMCO was only around for seventeen years or whatever it is they it could have produced. It's not like Ludwig or even like Yamaha these companies that have been around forever. Do you know roughly. How many kits were actually produced? I in the war like that are actually out there in the world. No I knew but he knows that I was Speaking with Eddie night earlier today Eddie night night. Big Camp. Go Endorser Educator Has the night school music. He sold a lot of CAMCO drum sets and he put it withstand stamp. Eddie skips He also put swivel matic. Rogers amounts on them and a call bell holder on every kid and But I ask him that question. He had no idea no he. He didn't even know how many he sold But they did not sell a lot obviously because they're right right now. If you look online. I don't think you'll see a complete set by complete. I mean with a snare drum matching snare. That's how they usually came with a matching snare. They offered metal snare drums but the matching I'm I'm talking about Oakland era now Yeah and Because Oakland areas just You know basically in the sixties well in sixty to seventy one. Well there's a great FACEBOOK group that a lot of people are on. And you can I mean obviously I don't own a CAMCO except it's cool to go on there and see people share their sets and it's a really cool community And also Joe while I have you so you kind of mentioned it before you have an association or you brought a product to market. That's not CAMCO but is the hot rods. What's the story with that? I mean I know we. We're kind of running out of time here but what's the what happened there. Hot Rods Well they kind of The unplug creates. You know in fact when I was talking about I had a business that all of a sudden we're backward we're actually backward for three years Making I was back with her for three years making hot rods. drumsticks fix because of the unplugged craze. Steve Veroni used them on. Eric Clapton's unplugged album that year. With a ninety five I think I got that right That became the album of the year. All of a sudden opened the floodgates on unplugged gigs and almost every drummer used hot rods on their unplugged gig l.. And then Dave Grohl of Nirvana use them and that meant okay kids now you can use them another other cool. Yeah now even even the youngsters can use them and so it kind of It just it opened everything up and my we were and So that's what kind and made them famous They were chugging along. Pretty good back then. It'd be you know before that but and so I I. I continued making hot rods until enter two thousand twelve and had eight employees and younger fellow right in town here took it over and all employees are still there and they all all the hot rods are made in the Minneapolis area and now they go. Oh they were you originally went out to Houston WPRO mark. Now they go to dairy who bought pro mark celebrity Saudi ship out to New York City. Wow Okay so you guys manufacture them or now. They manufacture them and then they get labeled as remark or D Dario. Reo Now and pro-market that's still problem. Sure they bought from when they bought things are things changed and I. I had a buyer but seemed like a good time to move on. Well had a burden hand. That would that's what it was. It's it's not easy. Selling a musical instrument manufacturing business as you know especially when you want new employees to stay with it and that was part of the you know. He wasn't written in the deal but I knew he would keep that and that was very important. Important when you start a business realize after a while employees rely on you know think about in the beginning but all of a sudden you become responsible. Yeah but you must feel good kind of being Being the guy where where I think hot rods gets a name for you know a classic thing that you think Dave Grohl I mean honestly in my. I'm twenty nine. I think Dave Grohl on the unplugged So that's cool to get a little extra bit of bit of history. What's what's funny is Dave? GROHL has to be the softest player of hot Rod I've ever seen. He's barely hitting the drums. Actually there was a thing thing in rolling stone called the smoking section where Dave Grohl talks about it and I that the session and he said Kurt was basically he was gonNA walk out because Kurt kept telling him to play quieter and quieter and he couldn't and finding the producer came out with a set of pro mark hot rod so it was Kinda kind of Corny the way it's and Dave used them and he said Kurtz is lit up and then he goes under say hot Rod. Save that Gig and I'm thinking. Well where's my grammy. But anyways so but no he used them and that was a big deal..
"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"The other was an oakland that he recorded a along with and I know who has that but So it's kind of fun to see that Famous camp goes said there. Oh in another famous set. It was funny last winter we were in Phoenix. At the incredible place. Called to 'em. I am the Musical Instrument Museum Incredible Incredible Museum in fact you can spend two days there. It's new instruments from all over the world. But they had a there. One exhibit was the birth of the Electric Electric Guitar. And all these guitars famous guitars George Harrison. Eric Clapton all these famous guitars and Amplifiers and there's the only one drum set in the middle and that belonged to Doug Clifford. There was kids. CAMCO twenty two base thirteen and Sixteen Walnut Oakland set and It looked it looked. It has some use sure. Playing with credence was well you news about what a famous kit. Wow I've heard of that museum and seen videos of different exhibits and stuff and it looks awesome. So it's it's cool to know. There's there's a CAMCO set there yeah. It is awesome down museum. We were amazed and like I said you could spend two days there And and Yeah we just we. We had a blast. We just had a blast them so next time. We'll we'll definitely the whole this. Spend the whole day. Yeah now let me ask you too. So when you're talking about at the different eras and we're obviously not done with the company but so it seems like a lot of the oaklawn is pretty sought after right. That seems to be like an era. That people really really really like which would be the kind of early sixties. That's post Elkhart when it actually got bought and became. CAMCO is that kind of the most most-desired Iteration of CAMCO drums. Yeah for the vintage camco sound in the six Oakland when all in from probably about sixty Doodoo What sixty sixty two into into even Even the should note is still the same. Sound but that is The Oakland is Collectors seem to go for the Oakland although they did change quite a bit when they went to Los Angeles and that would be what nineteen seventy-three custody move from Chinook Kansas and The company moved to Los Angeles and they started using Keller shelves a different company. They had a whole different type of Shell. Undersized undersized the very niche very unique a lot of tiffany action ahead which is float on the drum As you go up the side of the Shell it was the edge start tapering toward the center and then come in so the edge was more toward the inner inner plies is the drums than than anybody else and Those trump's are are nice drums. Some people might say there are more modern sounding drum but they have over but they're loud. They got a big boom to him. I'VE GOT LA kits. And you know. Sometimes I like them too. But I prefer oaklawn Oakland's I can if if you wanna they have a wide tuning range. You want to crank them up of a really high or go really. Don't do anything you want but the L. A.'s are Nice Nice drums beautiful finishes and Yeah just beautiful. They had like four different stains for lacquer finishes and for covered finishes Che's and almost all the lacquer uncover where solid colors. They only offered a white marine Peru. That was the only Pearl Otherwise it was like a solid red shaw blue solid black. They had Alice Cooper blew in house. A scooper white cooper was a drummer. I mean. was there a reason that like doing that. Alice Cooper series yeah His drummer us. You know he really so you think. He's the Alice Cooper White. I suppose used both of them now. Yeah so anyway but they figured Alice Cooper was more more. Yeah Yeah Yeah it is Kinda funny now is Is Custom still the owner when we get into the the los this Angeles period they still own it or no no Beckman music odd The let's see yeah and Yeah they became owner. So as it's a whole just totally changed hands custom The owner accustom had his hands in a lot of different things boats and he just wanted out and So so They ended up in Los Angeles and beef and then that went till about nineteen seventy seven and Don Lombardi of with a drum workshop. took it or he took over L. Actually that company was split up between Hachinoe. Tomah aw and Don and don ended up with all the hardware in who she ended up with the name and Hershey no went on to make the last version of CAMCO drums. USA Made CAMCO drums. Those were made there was they were out of Bensalem Bensalem Salem Pennsylvania and Those shelves were made in the US. And they're either by Jasper or Keller. I I Nobody knows yet and they're beautiful trump's they have they're just precision. They even go on about the precision bearing edges ages in their catalog. How important it is for them? Finishes are just phenomenal. They had a renaissance series. That had in hand inlays in and They're beautiful drums but unfortunately after that Camco used the that name Tom I use the CAMCO name to put Out An entry level set in a lot of people associates those kind of common in the associated. Hachinoe name with Does entry the WHO she camco with those entry level sets saw and these sets. This was the Hershey No. USA Made Camco where from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen eighty and there were six ply shells and these shells did not have reinforcing rings. The the only camco drums. That did not have reinforcing rings and they had their they had one main endorse of and that was Elvin Jones. While it's a good one. In fact YEP Steve. Maxwell had or has Elvin Jones set. I don't know if he still has it or not. But if he doesn't it was beyond his US maxwell drums drums on our website at least pictures of it and And that was the end. In fact I did a nine hundred in two thousand some fifteen after Chicago drum show with Jim Zena. I did a video on. We called it the four seasons of Camco so we I have a set a George George way set a camel oaklawn a CAMCO. La and a CAMCO. Hoshino said all four of them set up and we go over all four of them and So if you go online you could easily dial that up and you can get an idea what they look Mike. That's great and now so this period of like when d-w sort of begins And Thomas is involved or Hoshi Chinos then The five thousand pedal. You WanNa talk a little bit about that. Because I know this sort of has to part of history I mean it's one of the most famous pedals in history three and that was originally a camco pedal correct originally it was Martin Fleet Foot and police. There were made Minneapolis Minnesota. And I'm in Saint Paul. ACTUALLY FROSTBITE FALLS MINNESOTA but There are some Minnesota Pedal and CAMCO bought the rights to with that pedal and also. That's the same sin basically the same pedals to Gretch floating action. And so that came from the Martin Fleet Foot turned turned into the CAMCO and the Floating Grudge Floating Action Pedal and then from there is d w ended up with All the hardware and They That pedal is still similar to the original. I think the upright piece is I don't know I haven't seen the the new ones that are getting so heavy duty. Maybe they beef that up to But phenomenal pedal your get an old Camco pedal and you know they added the chain to it. Yeah that's that was once we're strapped drive okay and that was like a sort of a Kind of a hack. That was going on a little bit where people were doing that and converting them and then obviously obviously caught on. And then there's also a Tomah Camco pedal that looks similar to it right. That would be in the same theyn because they had the the name Okay right yeah. Yeah they're pedal is in fact if you look and even in their their pedal in the it's identical except it has the chain drive but it's identical to the original camco pedal The Pacino CAMCO pedal So so Thomas started putting that out immediately They had beef all the other stands. Beefed up stands. Tom I did had stands. You could hold your car up with a stance cans. Yeah Heavy heavy duty but the pedal was still that little lightweight Campbell. Just a nice basic lightweight. Little Pedal title works great. Yeah it does. It's I mean so in that period of hardware and pedals and stuff. Why did it resonate so much with people? Was it just because of the ease in the smoothness of it I mean why is it. Why did it become such a iconic pedal because it works so well unlike speed king you could adjust it to speed? King Pedal Works Great. If you like that angle adjustable unless you would bend the raw your beater Rod. That's the only way you could adjust that angle the pedal of how far back it went But just the Nice simple little lightweight pedal. That worked great. So I'd still play today. No problem that's great. You know some good when it lasts that long. Yeah yeah that's one of those things. They designed right just like if. Go back to Ludwig supersonic four hundred snare drum. Yeah I mean it was designed right. Did done right. Yeah it was done right. There's if you can't make that sound good it's you you. Oh that's why it doesn't so Another thing that I think is really worth talking about in in a little more. Detail is is the George Way Turret lugs or the round lugs which like you said. Everyone thinks of d-w like I would think most drummers today who aren't really aware the CAMCO history who are listening to this and learning about this probably don't know the history behind that and that has been around for a very long time before for DWI existed. So I mean that's just a pretty pretty cool history in itself right so lug goes back to nineteen fifty seven when George Way designed it. And it's I'm still amazed when I I I I play in the Minneapolis. Saint Paul Area Never Rode Drummer. I I just I was able to I made a living for many years just playing in this area. Fortunately and I was always surprised when people saw my Camco sets and the ones who knew it was a CAMCO HAMCO set instead of a d. w. and You know but they'd see the badge that little cloud band maybe give it away. It definitely have that round. Dwi Badge on it but I know my first Camco set when I saw this way before. Dwi In seventies that was in a music store was a you you set. And they'll look kind of cartoonish with those big round. lugs reminded me of like a mind floating in the water. You know ships are trying Andrew. Avoid or something. They got this big round lugs on it so I bought it. This price was right. I bought this was a old George Way Camp Camco from George way shells the old four four ply shells i..
"camco" Discussed on Drum History
"I'm your host Bart van der Zee and today we were talking about Camco with our good friend. Joe Luma Joe Human. I'm doing great barred. How you doing good good? This is We this is really cool. We met at the Chicago drum show and And CAMCO is one of those companies that Kinda has like a mystique about him like. There's a a little bit of mystery and there's the George way stuff and And I know Ron to net is kind of involved with the new George way stuff. It's just it's honestly it's a big mystery to me so I'm really excited to have you here to to clarify some stuff okay. Well let's see. Let's see if I can do this and sure exactly I'll let you just take take it away and Why don't you start at the beginning of the history of CAMCO? Okay this is podcast right. This is a podcast pod and let's hit getting in your pod and we're off we're off the space off to the podcast okay First of all let me say on CAMCO. There is an excellent book walkout now called the Lady Way. It is by Rob Cook. And this is a biography of George Way. And it's also the history the leading drum company But Rob Cook doesn't great job on books. Also got an incredible grudge book and other books out so and anybody listening between please go and buy these books and support this guy. Anybody who writes a book like this is not making his not in it for the money so so all the support we can and That would be great so that will That covers a lot of stuff about George Away and you cannot talk about Camco without talking about George Way because they were basically his drums and George started out with one thousand nine hundred fifty seven and I just started selling telling snare drums and He had two lines. I think what were the they both have the round trip loved this way before d-w will and One line was called Aristocrat and the other was spartan and He just the snare drums aristocrat. Where the separate lugged drums uh-huh top and bottom and the Spartan where the center lug but both drums were those round turret lives and there's the earlier ones this was Let's Oh yeah. They were out of Elkhart Indiana in the first drums very thin three ply shells and then they went to a four ply shell And then later on in fifty seven they added Bass drums and Tom. Toms and What's funny in their catalogs? They only showed three piece sets and Back then twelve inch. Tom was on a twenty two inch bass drum. That's seemed to be normal for them instead of thirteen Tom. So you'll find these old George Way sets the of twenty two base. Sixteen floor Tom. But they'll have a twelve inch Tom Times to twelve on top and usually the match instagram And I've got a beautiful red sparkle kit in that configuration Yeah and then Let's see what They had their endorsers. I know this is kind of funny. A that's all. I have a Cadillac right here on the back at has this would be the early June. George wake catalog had has Anita Anita. Oh Days Drummer. His name is John Pool and he has a Roger Swivel. Matic Tom Mount holding his Tom. Tom This thing you'll see Robert. Rogers Swivel Matic mounts on quite a number of Camco Drum sets interesting. And we're not sure if the factory would put him on if they'd put him on afterwards but Eddie night at the United School Music and Camco endorser always put a Roger Swivel modern swivel matic. Mount to hold the Tom's up which is great great. You know let me let me ask you real quick though so starting out. Was this George way drums or was this Camco drums because I know there was the George Way Drum company they were George wage. Jill W away GIO was. She'll period period w way drums and wasn't yeah they went on until Oh like I know the nineteen sixty one catalog these. We're still in Georgia way drums. Now they had the added a little off four and a half by fourteen near Cassino. Aristocrats near Jim. That's a highly collectible drum and it's funny for their copy underneath he said the neatest and best looking narrow drum ever made. So you know I. Would you look any any further you know. And then they also added that little fourteen by twenty Bass Drum and the little fourteen by fourteen four times and And then I I sixty one. Also that's where the the new Tuxedo models replaced the spartan models and the Tuxedo model had something called the Tuxedo. Lug which is not around Turt- lug but a kind of a cigar shaped lug and endorsers actually endorsed throughout that time with sunny sending in Sonny greer dig on and Eddie night Also another endorser In that and after that George Way lost the company to John Rashawn of the CAMCO Camp Goal They were they haven't they manufactured hardware and screws and all kinds of things and But John rashawn owner of Camco took For over fifty one percent ownership and kind of and George Way left the company And then that's when they became Camco and that had yes sixty two nineteen eighteen sixty two. I believe not sixty sixty two I think and then John Rashawn moved the company to Oakland Illinois They made a few changes. The offer to eighteen inch bass drum They offered a parallel stringer snare drum. That was at that time uncalled seminole one super and they had and and if you actually see that catalog sixty two or sixty three catalog they have what I consider the holy grail. I don't ever made it. Even it is a three and a half by fourteen jazz model snare drum and it has miniature aristocrat the ground logs. You could get this in wood or metal. Now these SH- shallow. Shell jump show up but they have the full size lug on them. I've I've never seen one with that miniature lug and although it might not have worked well anyway because the rods would go directly into each other. So there's not much much room for the before those rods and start hitting each other staggered so maybe it was just a prototype or something like that. They just tried out in through on the catalog That could be yeah could have made it in the catalog and then in production. They realized that hoops. This might not work So cool and then also. So they're number. One endorser came on board for for a few years. That's Nick Sorolla from the Tijuana brass. They hit it. Big and Nick Sorolla used of Camco little twenty inch base twelve and fourteen times in a matching snare in Burgundy sparkle and CAMCO fortunately fortunately for me or an and people who like the sizes that twenty with twelve fourteen matching snare Camco made a lot of those sets. That was a big set for them so and that's the size I play. So that's why I'm pretty happy about that so now in this time. So we're in the sixties they were primarily one thing. Yeah I've kind of seen as they weren't exactly going after the rock market as much as the jazz kind of players right because a lot of guys using Ludwig and stuff the rock world. They seemed to be more like Jazz drums right Although they did have Dennis Wilson of the beach boys as an an endorser. Yeah that's cool and two gigantic drummers at the area play that era played camco drums one was Doug Doug Clifford of creedence clearwater auto revival. I mean listen to the drums on those recordings and the other is the great. Jim Gordon I mean who played with everybody you know Derek and the Dominos. I'm an OS Eric Clapton traffic. George Harrison John Lennon Jackson round. Got Frank Oh Carly Simon. Yeah Listen to the drums on your so vain. Those Camco Klein and so two the two big I think Doug Clifford may have endorsed him but he was never featured in the catalog. Ah I don't Jim. Jim Gordon ever did endorse him. But there's two big rock players who used Oakland Camco drums full and there were a studio drum to number studios would use the sets because they record well. Okay so they they kind of permeated into the into culture without You know being on the Ed Sullivan show. Oh or whatever. But they were still heard all overdue these studios right right Yeah that's Yeah and they seem for the studio Camco the oaklawn oaklawn drums jasper shells jasper shell companies and saying them. They'd crutch round badge and the early Rodgers Eagle batch. Drums are Jasper shelled shelled But the Jasper Shell. It seems those drums For some reason I think close Mike and the drums close Mike well And that's just my guess but they that's I know. Even my Camco Oakland's when I bring them in the studio we never have a problem. Getting sounded always instantly. And you know where in fact the engineer sometimes say wow that was painless. Just a backup to clarify so Camco mcco when the so CAMCO was an existing company said making screws and stuff. Was that a drum company. Were they literally making like hardware for hardware sake like screws and nuts and bolts like. What's the story with CAMCO? Before they became Camco that we know well. I think there were a CAMCO. Screw Company And I think they made nuts and bolts and They've made stands snare stand symbol stands. They made they got into the hardware. The business drum hardware and where John Rashawn. I guess just wanted eventually to you know to start making drums to and So that's how they ended up with it and Got It Yeah and also in that era I should say they went from four ply shell to a six ply shell shell. They're still jasper shells. Shell company making them but they went to six plies in mid in the mid sixties and Also in the mid sixty. They did some changes. They finally put flared out floor Tom legs and they came up with six sided. Spur bracket and but anyway Yeah and then they went into Yeah they then. Later Iran in the sixties they added the eighteen and twenty inch floor toms they came up with some lacquer finishes wonder like Ebony Walnut What they have clear? Maypole Moss Green stain and Knicks early was still remain endorser. He was the big guy in the sixties and a and then They went. Let's see they ended up Custom Amplifier Company bought them and in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy one to seventy seventy three. They moved to Kansas well. Customers ensure nuked anyway. I don't know how many drums they built and should note Quality went down a little. I bet they weren't as five feet still good drums. Nice Jasper Shell drums. But I've had Sets from this Air Kanoute era where the top bearing the very nice on the top. Tom was was either sharper or flatter than the floor. Tom Different bearing edge The reinforcing rings that are kind of crushed in and Jasper would have done that. But I think jeff maybe they did but they weren't fussy about them but they're still good sounding drums. Jim Gordon Haddish. It gets and nobody complained about the sound of that. In fact that one I see just sold on Ebay. His It's twenty two base twelve thirteen sixteen. I think it came to about four grand for those drums because they were Jim Gordon's cool and He only had to camp goes sets..
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"Is to be here. I am at the Camco for for young people on, on Trump preneurs of central Asia meeting over many years, thanks to the generosity and sponsorship of the Rumsfeld foundation and the central Asia caucuses institute, I am here. Thanks to scholar dot com sponsorship and I'm very pleased to speak in general of the conference with someone who was a veteran of attending without actually being an entrepreneur, who comes from central Asia, introduced enders wimbush of stratovarius. He has observed camc over many years. He's also been in and out of Tashkent since. The dark days of the nineteen seventies, which was a crisis for the first Cold War, and we will speak of these matters. In addition to the geo strategy of the reason region Anders a very good evening to. And thank you for joining me. I complicate south because you've attended many of these, and I've just discovered the matter, I find it exciting and dizzying because they're young people from states I could only find a map once upon a time and their ambitions and their networking. What is your experience of Camco over the years? How does it function in these in these different cultures reawakening from the Soviet creature? Good evening to. Thank you. John to you. Let me say first that the camp experience experience the experiment is probably one of the lesser known things of secretary Rumsfeld. So I see. But I would argue it's one of the most important secretary Rumsfeld. Gained particular affection for this region when he was the secretary of defense, the second time around, and working with them during the time of the, the Afghan war, and he realized how important this region was going to be to future strategy future. American thinking on the way the world is shaping and so he set out looking for ways to, to help shape shaping, and he realized that the future was the own people and not just young people who are going to go into government, but particularly young entre preneurs. And so he established the fellowship I have been working with the fellowship almost from the beginning. I'm one of the people that see, I think every class fellows, who comes through Washington, and we talked your politics. We talked business. We do all kinds of, of other things. Secretary Rumsfeld open. And his Rolodex for these young men and women who get an experience of a lifetime around the United States meeting with some of our most distinguished elite and business leaders and government leaders and, and cultural and artistic leaders, they leave the United States, one with a great appreciation of what the American experience can teach them and to a new network, which is you can see around. You've seen in the last couple of days is robust active formidable and productive Camco stands for central Asia. Mongolia caucuses, and I've ghanistan consider the map, I am ten thousand kilometers for my studio. However, once you're here, you recognize that the geography is profound to the east are Kirghistan Tadzhikistan dominated by very high mountains. None of which have been. Climbed. I mentioned to the adventures listening to us, and all of the hiking trails are free of trash and ready for you to the south of us have ghanistan deeply trouble. But at the same time, sending a young people to Cam met several of them looking for a future for their country to the north is Kazakhstan, which is vast place of resources and very few people compared to his Becca STAN, and to the east are the mysteries of Turkmenistan. They're different tribes, different people different traditions, but Cam cub brings them all together for the future. I wanna make a note here ambers, because what I've learned is that there. Thanks, Fred star. This is a rich civilization. We were not taught in my twentieth, century education, and I'm going to presume yours as well about twenty five hundred years ago when these city states are created a culture and art and science and philosophy and poetry that was a dominant. And rated by Alexander. The great and rated by the Tangs rated by the Persians. Okay. No time for that, because we're gonna come right to Tashkent embers. You've been here since the nineteen seventies, I promised myself, you're going to shock me to tell me how it's transformed because what I see today are building cranes. Keeping the building slow because this is quake-zone, lots of Chevrolet cars, because there's a plant here, and they're open for business. What was it like in the nineteen seventies I made my first trip here, John in nineteen seventy five or I spent two months here I was a Fulbright fellow at Moscow university. And I was given a two-month pass to come to Tosh Kent, the Moscow authorities didn't wanna give me this pass, and they tried to take it back several times, but they failed and because of the way the Soviet system worked everything broke down. I travel to touch Kent, and I was here without supervision for two months. So I had a chance to walk all over the place tasha canton. Nineteen seventy five. Nineteen seventy six was certainly not the city that you see today, it had recently survived the nineteen sixty six earthquake, which was a massive thing that reduced almost all of the old city and burned to the ground. It was recovering from that, and it had all of the all of the architectural, refinements, shall we say of a typical Soviet city awful apartment blocks restaurants that were dirty and not particularly interesting. But the culture the culture, which was so enticing, so attractive. So a learning was here. I spent most of my time walking the dirt streets. Most of them were dirt were the main streets were paved. But if you went in off the main drag into the into the courtyards the old city they all dirt. It looked like you were in, in the our condo, or, or cash car. Or one of the old central Asian cities. The markets were full of. Old men and old women and young men and young women with donkeys carts and wearing the most gorgeous national dress everywhere. It looked like a scene out of the late nineteen mid nineteenth century central Asia. It was McCartney and Kutch. Gar, that's what it looked like. And you mentioned the, the depth and the power of the civilization twenty five hundred years ago. I it's really important to underline this because com central Asia Caucasus Mongolia this, this whole region is really of one civilizational piece Mongolia's, a little bit on the on the edges of this Turkic or Taiji. That means it's either Turkic or Persian all the way across person from the west Turkic from the east Turkey, once in a, while the Tang, dynasty shows up and then. About seven hundred about the in the eighth century, the Arab show up, but they don't stay for a while. They keep coming back, all blend together all together the, the, the image that I think most Americans have of this of this region is the is the is the Soviet image, the post, Soviet Union. Those are the stands, and that's all they think of them as, as the stands, what they what they don't see and what they need to say is all the connective tissue that holds these five six seven eight new states together common history, common language culture common common interests. And those are the things which is established to try to bring to the surface and develop a new elite that can actually make those connections into reality. I mentioned ironically Emmers because we're going through this conversation at home. They also share their understanding that whatever socialism is we're not going back. We're not going back there. I mean, the, the, the experience out here as in most places that have experienced socialism of especially of the kind that the, the Russians were prepared to push. All these directions is not something they're ever going back to. Nobody wants to be it represents, deprivation and fear. We're talking about Tashkent, and it was back STAN, which is the most populous of these states, a more than thirty three million people. Meaning prosperity is right front of it. That's babies. Bring your money. That's what breaks you the other states understand that. And these they're not feeling divided by their borders. Now, they're feeling that there is in common purpose in collective action wealth, not just the silk road. But the creativity that was here once twenty five hundred years ago. So I'm speaking to embers wimbush. He's very generous to give me a history of calm cut the same time. Beca STAN, but we're going to speak to the region and its place in the Eurasia in the world island of your Asia, and what it means to the United States today for the Trump administration. Enders wimbush is a partner in stratovarius Inc, which is headquartered in Grand Rapids, beautiful city northern Michigan. We are at the camp conference, thanks to the rumps fundation, the central Asia caucuses institute..
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"I'm very pleased to speak in general of the conference with someone who is a veteran of attending without actually being an entrepreneur, who comes from central Asia, introduced enders wimbush of stratovarius. He has observed camc over many years. He's also been in and out of Tashkent since the dark days of the nineteen seventies, which was a crisis for the first Cold War, and we will speak of these matters. In addition to the geo-strategy of. The reason region. And there's a very good evening to. And thank you for joining me. First comic itself because you've attended many of these, and I've just discovered the matter, I find it exciting and dizzying because they're young people from states, I could only find on a map once upon a time and their embellishes and they're networking. What is your experience of Camco over the years? How does it function in these in these different cultures reawakening from the Soviet creature? Good evening to you. Thank you, John. Good evening to you. Let, let me say first that the camp experience experience the experiment is probably one of the lesser known things of secretary Rumsfeld. So I gue- see, but I would argue it's one of the most important secretary Rumsfeld. Gained particular affection for this region when he was the secretary of defense, the second time around. And working with them during the time of the, the Afghan war, and he realized how important this region was going to be to future strategy future. American thinking on the way the world is shaping. And so he set out looking for ways to, to help the shaping and he realized that the future was the own people and not just young people who are going to go into government, but particularly young entrepreneurs. And so he established Komkova fellowship. I have been working with the fellowship almost from the beginning. I'm one of the people that sees, I think every class of fellows, who comes through Washington. And we talked your politics. We talk business. We do all kinds of, of other things. Secretary Rumsfeld opens his Rolodex for these young men and women who get an experience of a lifetime around the United States meeting with. Some of our most distinguished elites and business leaders and government leaders and, and cultural and artistic leaders, they leave the United States one with a great appreciation of what the American experience, can teach them. And to a new network. Which, as you can see around your seen it in the last couple of days is robust active formidable and productive Concha stands for central Asia. Mongolia caucuses, and I've ghanistan consider the map, I am ten thousand kilometers for my studio. However, once you're here, you recognize that the geography is profound to the east are Kirghistan, touchy dominated by very high mountains. None of which have been climbed. I mentioned to the adventures listening to us, and all of the hiking trails are free of trash and ready for you to the south of Afghanistan deeply troubled, but at the same time, sending a young people to Cam cod, met several of them looking for a future for their country to the north is Kazakhstan, which is vast place of resources and very few people compared to his Becca STAN, and to the east are the mysteries of Turkmenistan. They're different. Tribes. They're different people different traditions. But Cam cub brings them all together for the future. I wanna make a note here ambers, because what I've learned is that there. Thanks, Fred star. This is a rich civilization. We were not taught in my twentieth, century education, and I'm going to presume yours as well about twenty five hundred years ago when these city states created a culture and art and science and philosophy and poetry, that was a dominant and raven by Alexander the great and raided by the Tangs and rated by the Persians. Okay. No time for that. Because we're gonna come right to Tashkent embers. You've been here since the nineteen seventies, I promised, myself, you're going to shock me to tell me how it's transformed because what I see today are building Craig's, keeping the building slow because this is quake zone, lots of Chevrolet cars, because there's a plant here and they're open for business. What was it like in the nineteen seventies? I made my first trip here, John in one thousand nine hundred seventy five or I, where I spent two months here, I was a Fulbright fellow at Moscow university, and I was given a two-month pass to come to Tosh can't the Moscow. Authorities didn't want to give me this pass, and they tried to take it back several times, but they failed and because of the way the Soviet system worked everything broke down. I traveled to touch Kent, and I was here without supervision for two months. So I had a chance to walk all over the place tasha canton. One thousand nine hundred seventy five early nineteen seventy six was certainly not the city that you see today, it had recently survived the nineteen sixty six earthquake, which was a massive thing that reduced almost all of the old city and burned to the ground. It was recovering from that. And it had all of the all of the architecture, refinements shall we say of a typical Soviet city awful apartment blocks restaurants that were dirty. And not particularly interesting. But the culture the culture, which was so enticing, so attractive. So a learning was here. I spent most of my time walking the dirt streets. Most of them were dirt. There were the main streets were paved. But if you went in off the main drag into the into the courtyards of the old city, it was all dirt. It looked like you were in, in your condo, or, or cash car, or one of the old of central Asian cities, the markets were full of. Old men and old women and young men and young women with donkey carts and wearing the most gorgeous national dress everywhere. It looked like a scene out of the late nineteen mid nineteenth century central Asia. It was McCartney and cash. Gar, that's what it looked like. And you mentioned the depth and the power of the civilization twenty five hundred years ago. It's really important to underline this because com central Asia, Caucasus Mongolia, this, this whole region is really of one civilizational piece Mongolia's, a little bit on the on the edges of this. Turkic or Taiji that means it's either Turkic or Persian all the way across personate from the west Turkic from the east Turkey, once in a, while the Tang dynasty shows up and then about seven hundred about the eighth century, the Arab show up, but they don't stay for a while. They keep coming back all blended together all together the image. I think most Americans have of this of this region is the is the is the Soviet image, the post-soviet image. It's those are the stands, and that's all they think of them as the stands, what they what they don't see and what they need to see is all the connective tissue that holds these five six seven eight new states together common history, common language and culture, common SPA, shins common interests. And those are the things which Comcast is established try to bring to the surface and develop a new elite. That can actually make those connections into reality. I mentioned ironically Emmers because we're going through this conversation at home. They also share their understanding that whatever socialism is we're not going back. We're not going back there. I mean, the, the, the experience out here as in most places that have experienced socialism of, especially of the kind that the, the Russians were prepared to push in all these directions is not something they're ever going back to nobody wants to be a represents, deprivation and fear. We're talking about Tashkent, and it was back STAN, which is the most populous of these states, a more than thirty three million people. Meaning prosperity is right in front of it. That's babies bring your money. That's what it breaks you the other states understand that. And these they're not feeling divided by their borders. Now, they're feeling that there is in common purpose in collective action wealth, not just the silk road. But the creativity that was here once twenty five hundred years ago. So I'm speaking to embers wimbush. He's very generous to give me a history of calm, cut the same time spec, but we're going to speak to. The region and its place in the Eurasia and the world island of your Asia, and what it means to the United States today for the Trump administration. Enders wimbush is a partner in stratovarius Inc, which is headquartered in Grand Rapids, a beautiful city in northern Michigan. We are at the camp conference, thanks to the rumps foundation, the central Asia caucuses institute. Also I am here. Thanks to scholar dot com. Sponsorship, we are on Sunday could be San Diego, except for San Diego. Doesn't have whether this good. And we're going to speak of geo-strategy come back. I'm John bachelor. Baseball is a game of surprises because they are hitting a round ball with a round back.
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"I am a Camco the central Asian Mongolian caucuses in Afghanistan forum in Tashkent, expect to stay. Christopher Nixon Cox. My colleague and co-host, and friend is here with me, and we're very pleased to speak with hick of the Iraq Manav, who is an entrepreneur a graduate. And a colleague of the forum, however, he has established businesses that Chris, and I have very much admired because we're at the beginning of a boom cycle for central Asia, and that begins in the city, the ancient city states that are re awakening their understanding of prosperity and ambition hickok. It's a pleasure to speak with you. Thank you very much. In a good evening to you. Please understand that America understands entrepreneurship. How is it that, that is heard here in Tashkent? How do the. Young people respond to your high highly successful business of services for in all directions for the people of Tashkent. Good evening to you. Good evening, Mr. bachelor. Thank you very much. Well, this invitation historically entrepreneurship was part of our living and part of what we do for centuries. Unfortunately, during the Soviet time we work quite isolated to this wonderful. Let's say profession, which United a lot of people unites the countries of the region that we today are discussing gladly with, with this year's with these reforms. Now, we can see that a lot of entrepreneurs, they became, again role models for young generation because they travel around the world they seek for new opportunities, and they bring these opportunities to their home country, hick Mont. It's great to see you again. I really. Enjoyed visiting different businesses. It was great. Having tea with you. Your stores are immaculate and your workspaces are just incredible. Tell us a little bit about some of your businesses. I think Americans would love to hear about what businesses like here in. Toshka. Sure. You know, when I was studying in UK, I did my masters in international business. I thought for myself, it was back fifteen years ago that if I'm coming back to his biggest fan I need to bring something very ambitious. And when I came back, I started to convince my friends to start a business, interestingly half of my group, where from China. So for some reason, I thought that China is a place where I can seek for new opportunities. And that, that's what happened in two thousand and six we started to bridge Chinese businesspeople factories with SME's in his biggest done. We sell equipment machinery, we are one of the largest suppliers. Equipment these days besides we decided that it's not just trade that we want to do, we also started to Philip co working spaces suddenly that became very, very popular among young generation. Now, we have five it's a chain of co working spaces, and now we're expanding through the region says, well, I wanted to describe what I saw visiting your establishment Hickam out has a full service for say your builder. He has heavy equipment, and deliver equipment and say, you're a builder who wants to build a factory, he can show you the best prices and how you can finance it. However, in the first floor the basement floor of his establishment. There's an open space. That's unlike anything else that she was in the building. And it very much remem- reminds me of the we space, the we work that we have in New York, where younger people, especially can bring in their computers or their max or. There and have online and communicate and learn from each other, and it's what, what he's established is a magnet for tracking the next generation of entrepreneurs. Yes, thank you, John. Yet, actually, you and Chris, you were in different locations. That's why you had this guy in a bit different way. But exactly, we try to create a very convenient trusted platform where young generation, they can come where they value equality where they don't have this Cairo keys of bosses and managers, and employees, we want everyone to feel very equal. Because when you bring people together, they start they start to brainstorm, they start to look for new opportunities and the location that John visited is, is a one stop shop for business that we created the idea is that if you are a young businessman, if or if you are expanding, and developing enterprise, you can come to us with an idea. And with. With a specific request. And we would be sourcing. These beat equipment be a business proposal globally in different locations because we have a very strong database. Thanks to travel. Thanks to our connections through the business associations etcetera. And at one place, you get the idea, you get support and the advice on the implementation be the business plan or physicality study. And you name it. And then we would also bring out financial arm to finance these projects. And then we will connect you with other potential investors. He would go through a special acceleration program, and we would be helping you and guide you through this journey of entrepreneurship. Take my, I know the Horatio Alger story in the United States, and I think when people think of central Asia, they may think, well connections matter. Government support might matter, you are not that way you have succeeded because you work hard. You deliver a product that your clients want. I think your personal story is so important, and I was so impressed when he told me that you started your company with just really a few dollars in your pocket. Maybe you could talk a little bit about the origins of your company. When there's a big difference, help people achieve something in their lives in different parts of the world. But I'm the true believer of the meritocracy when you get an appropriate education when you try heart you can really succeed, and thanks to the emerging up a -tunities me and this two of my partners, we whom I studied together, by the way, we, we decided that we want to start something from scratch, we don't want these social connections. We don't want a big, you know, kind of a phone call from, from some influential people we started from scratch from Guangzhou when we didn't even have an office and one small office here in the beginning actually work from the NFL without any office, even. But then all of the sudden, we saw we that we are connecting the gap between on one site among the entrepreneurs who are looking for opportunities. And then established enterprises abroad that can bring their opportunities to his biggest done and within a very short beard of time each year, we were adding a stuff, our team was growing. And yes, exactly. We started from three partners. And.
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"Thing about this. We had like our first summer weekend, you can go swimming in the pool. You could go to the beach. You could go to go to the park, you can play golf. And then you start thinking why the hell did we put up with this six months of winter, where we can't use any of this stuff. Maybe we should go where it's beautiful year round. But what happens when you're down there with warm weather year round, you get take it for granted? You get bored of no your active. That's the key. You're active. It's almost sunny every day. You don't sit in the house and the biggest thing down here is pickle ball, pickle ball, wait a minute. This is the world capital and pick a bowl. We just had to world championships here for representatives players from forty nine states thirty countries and twenty five hundred players. It's huge. This sport is going to take over the country. Participating sport is half the size of a tennis court, so old people like myself can play. All right. But Warner will you got the nice weather all year? But on the other hand, you're fighting off. Alligators you got seven foot lizards in your house. It's not all it's cracked up to be, they're not that baby six AM feel lizard, chronic wall, every, but I'll tell you there is one drawback apparently this is this is not an isolated. I read in one of the New York papers about sandy, the insurance company, they're trying to shortchange the people who had insurance policy. I will you gotta have your urine hurricane city there. Yes. Well, Irma wiped really wiped out my whole block, and we need a new roof replacement. There's no there's no question about it. And this company we had federal national insurance company. They they denied the claim they said. Oh, yeah. You do need a new roof, but we don't know that hurricane Irma caused it. Whoa. What else caused who else was here, and they're giving us a tough time? Well, sometimes they do that with that insurance like the wind and claim. It wasn't the win that did the damage. It was the water and you're only covered for wind or vice versa. They do that kind of stuff to the win blew the tiles loose, and they don't make the same tiles. So that's why we need a new roof but they're trying to weasel out of it. It's bragging about this weather. What do you want to root for? We don't have to go out. All right. So the PGA was, I don't know if you watch the golf this weekend, but it was here in Long Island and bring it all excited, Bethpage. I've watched some of it, I thought it was great. I was afraid Camco was going to blow it, especially after Dustin Johnson cut it to one stroke. I said, you know, it's too bad for this guy Brooks camp because he's going to go down as a choke artist and they would have sent. Oh, come on the guy at a seven stroke lead in the list, you know, eighteen holes and, or you know, oh man, buddy held on that was good. I was glad to see that, you know what I like about this, Bethpage. It's so big so.
"camco" Discussed on KTRH
"East loop south at I ten it's over on that shoulder and could you London in the Gulf Coast windows dot com twenty four hour traffic center. Roll another quiet day here in south east Texas where the numbers up into the mid eighties or low tonight, seventy degrees, and then finishing things out for the workweek tomorrow with eighty six degrees, and we do have some active weather, that's advertise Saturday night early Sunday morning could be some rough weather. Severe potential for us so heads up. Late Saturday night. Early Sunday morning. Potential for some bumpy weather this weekend. I'm Scott Lawrimore. The Weather Channel eighty on the island eighty-seven now at the KTAR, h top tax defenders twenty four hour weather center, one, oh to our top story. Police are investigating a possible road rage shooting on beech-nut in southwest Houston this morning. This father was taking his two children to school. A black Mercedes pulled up someone inside opened fire on their car. Fortunately, no one was hit in that is Barack given that one of those bullets flew through the front passenger seat, headrest wear. One of the man's children was sitting at tot again. No one was hurt. There was some shattered glass in the car, but they were able to get away right now. The only description police have of the gunman's par is a black Mercedes with a white put beyond that they're still trying to piece it all together. Twos. Robert Arnold, nearly three dozen employees Crosby chemical plant or now out a work about six weeks after a deadly explosion and fire at that facility, Wednesday Camco eliminated thirty five jobs along its workforce of about two hundred the Camco plan on Ramsey road at Crosby Dayton head a fire. April second killed a Twenty-seven-year-old known as Bubba the man James Mangum was a Sam Houston state grad, who had worked at a chemical plant in liberty before taking the job. At Ken co plant men had been said there, streamlining their operations Katie rate, time one, oh, three reports of the death of brick and mortar stores may have been greatly exaggerated international council of shopping centers. CEO Tom MaGee says in store shopping is making a comeback. Traditional shopping is.
"camco" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"The w but it gets better than that. John Lester now has the number one ERA in baseball one one six and moat. Christopher Camco the great Chris camp who you should follow at sea Cam Twitter. He's our NBC sports, Chicago researcher, most starts of six or more innings and one zero earned runs allowed from twenty fifteen to the present. Here's a three way tie at the top. Jacob degrom. Justin Verlander, John Lester. Then at fifty that's fifty seven fifty five. He got sherzer fifty four area to fifty three Kershaw fifty Chris sale. So my point is John Lester is getting better with age guy has just been sensational hundred sixteen pitch outing last night after a fifteen inning game. That saw the cubs. Go eight innings of one hit no run baseball. The bullpen on Saturday. We'll get Tyler chat winning a minute. John. Lester did what they needed last night. And when Schwarzer Buddha dead ball in left field. I know it was raining and windy, but he's got to make that play. They were able to wriggle out of a big big inning. And then Kinzler came in and was sensational and the cubs win. That is a really good win. It is John Lester has been the workhorse. He is not missed a step since he came back from the hamstring injury goes out there. And again, these guys are playing tough conditions. These are not ideal. That all God bless cubs fans for sitting through like Saturdays fifteen inning marathon and last night's miserable weather to watch their beloved team a pick up another victory. But he was great k b is hot as can be looks like MVP Chris Brian about him playing first base yesterday with Rizzo out with a back ailment. We'll find out the severity of that. When we talked to Anthony Rizzo for his weekly visit later here on capitol company this week. But look they go eight and two on the homestand. They've twelve of fourteen they've got the best record win percentage. Wise in the National League. They got an out to game cushion over the brewers, and they book ended this home stain against their two. Biggest rivals a sweep the cardinals. And they take two of three from the brewers phenomenal eight and two homestand. They had on the road after. A day off today and this was their second consecutive Sunday night game. They'll play their third consecutive Sunday night game at Washington next Sunday night. Kyle Hendricks is going to pitch in that game. Watched him. Do a really interesting interview with the guys with Jessica Mendoza, Memphis Gershon and era, and then they have been announced now for the June sixteenth Sunday night baseball game against the dodgers. That'll be fun. Can't get enough. They run on a Sunday night. Apparently. But no, it's I like the way things were spread up. Danny was saying an appreciation meeting that there was almost too much sports to to consume yesterday with the two game sevens in the NBA. And with the cubs playing at six I loved it. I thought everything's spread out nicely. And for those that needed to watch game of thrones or billions, or whatever you're liking is it kinda worked out in your favor. You're able to kind of see it all if you you work the remote on. Yep. Dive over to see Kawhi Leonard hit the most insane shot. We'll get into that. But I want to play some audio from last night's festivities at Wrigley field. Joe madden. Post-game said John Lester was able to just get through the. A few difficulties in that game. The wind knocked the ball Donald Schwab a couple of ground balls in the wrong spot. And but he kept battling through it. He's been so good at pitching through adversity making pitches when he needs to he's really slow the game down as as well as you possibly can. And was at one sixteen we needed all that. Here's John Lester post-game ongoing, one sixteen try to save him as best. I could. I mean, we all know coming in. Washy game today before you know, what what you need to do to was trying to get as many quick outsi- could early on. I was able to do that for the most part. So lucky made the big pitches he had to make and then when they yanked him and Kinzler command any froze Hayes Zeus Aguilar with a two seamer that ran back on the outside edge. And it was a strike absolute a hell of a pitch man that was a cow Hendrix style to seamer that runs back and clip the corner, and they get the strikeout in a huge huge moment. John Lester was exceptionally. What's the right word, not emotional? Exceptionally pumped up as he came off the mound on one play. You see him pumping his fist and yelling to the sky. And then when kids got the strikeout. Yeah, he's still. So it was cool. The see some great defensive plays. How by as with the great throw home to cut down a runner earlier game sensational sensational. That was a big time player get Aguilar. And then I thought Kris Bryant playing I in relief of Rizzo who didn't start because of the bulky back thought he was really good over. Although he was dressed like it was a nuke of the north. He had hid these from the Starling Castro collection member when Castro used always. Yeah. He had that Iraq the race car driver. I mean, hey, whatever works for you. But I don't see him. Usually does he usually wear that. When he plays third just seem maybe the winds will different there. I guess maybe here's Joe Manton Kris Bryant at the top of his game. D looks really sharp is confidence is way up. He played a great space to play where he turned a double play. Really smart. But that one ball was hit hard that he had to pick two aside. He got side. Which was the right thing to do on that just playing with a lot of confidence playing everywhere. People always wonder whether they could hit or not by playing variety of different positions. I think he actually thrives when he does that. He also talked about why Brian excels at those other positions as just keeps it fresh for him. I think he likes the freshness of it. I think it also probably takes something off the hitting expense. More time thinking about his defense is able to utilize athleticism. I think it keeps it fresh. That's probably the best way to describe it. I don't know if there'd be a lot of stars that would agree to go play first base. If if they're manager walked up to him. Like, I mean, obviously he goes out to the corner outfield. Plays left occasionally write a big deal right field as well. But you know to go up and say, hey, Brazil back tightened up yesterday. And that crazy fifteen inning marathon. Can you give it a go at first? That's your problem. I got an employee as well as he did. He was really really good. Chris was asked about playing first base after the ballgame. I knew his wasn't feeling great yesterday. So I kinda.
"camco" Discussed on KNST AM 790
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"camco" Discussed on KTRH
"Hardy in the Gulf Coast. Does dot com. Twenty four hour traffic center, like high pressure moves onto the east of the area opens up south wind from the Gulf of Mexico and here comes some eighties in the forecast. Spring in the air now with mid seventies here for this afternoon. I was kind of a cool start to the week yesterday. Fifty four degrees. Our low tonight Wednesday, mostly cloudy, seventy five and the chance for some thunderstorms. Eighty five on Thursday, I'm Scott Lawrimore at the Weather Channel sunny in sixty four at the KTAR, h Westside northside Lexus weather center. Twelve thirty one our top story beautiful day, but ugly and Crosby where that explosion. At the Ken coal plant has reportedly killed one worker and sent to others to a hospital. It's led to shelters in place orders for Crosby, Sheldon channel view and other ISD's in that area. Everyone within a one mile radius of the Camco plant is under a shelter in place. Order a thick black plume of smoke can be seen rising from the plant off. Highway ninety Harris County sued Kim co. In two thousand eight for spills and fumes facility has had dozens of OSHA violations since two thousand ten explosion in two thousand eleven sent workers to a hospital. House speaker Nancy Pelosi says allegations of inappropriate behavior against former vice president Joe Biden are not disqualifying Biden is considering a presidential run in two thousand twenty but Pelosi told politico, I'm sorry that you were offended is not an apology to women have come forward accusing creepy old uncle Joe Biden of unwelcome physical contact right now, the Dow is down one hundred four, but the NASDAQ is up a dozen s and p five hundred down to now more rush. Scott Crowder, Usery of sudden, forty KTAR h. Seventy seven percent of rural counties lack sufficient primary healthcare. Blue Cross Blue shield is working to fill that gap. I placing former military medics and communities.
"camco" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"We've got a good panel on today. We got ten minutes left in the shell pick back up with Stevie Camco talk about manufacturer specs it could take it away. Steve banks Bill. I mean, you are absolutely right. I mean when we talk about specs it is very important to take a look at what the manufactures recommending right that takes away. Most of the headache your following rules and regulations already that are in place that has gone through certification process nationwide. Certification most cases, so. You know that that's a great hurdle to jump over quickly by following directions. And we've seen that many times if you go out to inspection, and we see why was it done this way or we see shingles failing. Sometimes it's like immediately go back and see what what the issue is. You can quite mostly ninety nine percent of the time relation installation issues poison. Exactly, the you know, not all not all installers are equal, especially when these hailstorms common. There is a big demand for the roof. Oh, yeah. You know, there's new people coming out into the industry. The really don't know what they're doing. And you fill said it earlier, it's your product when it's done the insurance company does not warrant the work for you. It's also your responsibility to prove that. Right. So I get into communication with the insurance companies rather saying, hey, I want three or five different manufacturer's specs showing that you know, we have a space issue. There has to be eligible surface and stuff. So it's not just one they make us go out and really search it and get it. And they want it from all the menu, and they are different to Stevie Wright, equal Owens. Corning is not go were west versa. And we do our own testing. It starts from the beginning. Like, you said the policyholder, right? I was looking to buy a house earlier this year, and we went through some the policy, and you know, good thing I'm in industry. So I was able to look at it and ask questions and found out that I wasn't probably covered for hail. In colorado. And it's like about. Yes. And and immediately I was like why not covered for this. Right. So it is it is our responsibility to take a look at the policy began really like Ed mentioned. Hey, get an attorney because these guys are watching your back. Right. They're going to take care of you guys. Like, Phil I've been the office while they've gone through you know, taking care of their clients. And I see how much hard work they put into a claim it is their livelihood. And they are they're taking care of their clients. So which is refreshing to see when I've worked with over three thousand contractors here in the Denver area. And when you know fill the top that they're they stand above the rest of which is awesome to see, you know, one of the things is all point out about seventy years ago has gone through my policy. Wait a little bit better price with a policy in effect for about three months that I'm carrying five million dollars liability insurance. Most roofers carry three hundred ten million. We said you'll we're gonna just so we start about ten years. Karen, maybe nine years ago came five million. And I got a little bit of a discounted price. When you're like. Oh, wow. This is great. So I'm gonna juster right? I've been trained as villas to trained on Gulf Coast. Policies and I decided I'm going to read my policy, which is like even moment. Adjuster? I don't want to read my own policy right cycle through and read it and we have an open roof. Exclusion. So people out there, not all contractors not all policies in the same. I want him trying. What is an open roof? Exclusion. Nope. Andrew physicals and says that will you roof is open unless you took basically extreme measures to waterproof, it you have no coverage as the contractor. So people are getting have as many roofers out that many roofers out to that have this. And they don't even know it though. Because also a lot of the roofers are are different races different education levels. That's not there four eight to be reading policy. So I am a roofer. But I'm unique because I was an adjuster, and we do many other things, but when you have an open roof exclusion, the people think that the roofers coverage, but what are you gonna do? If you save a little bit of money, and you hire this for at a thunderstorm hits. And they fled your whole house. Guess what is going on your policy? It's your deductible. You might have a battle insurance company. The contrivance subrogate against the roofer, but the SOL because there's a limit of zero because the roof was open. So I actually had that coverage for a few months in a policy didn't even know. And I'm pretty smart guy. I said I'd better read through all this white cut this discount, and they don't really, you know, everyone's signing off the paperwork. It's just like we're hitting the buttons. So you're not paying attention. So it is really important. Let me tell commercial property owners out there. Commercial property owners warehouses condominiums, you really need to have qualified people review your policies. You have a hailstorm come by. And maybe have limited lawn ordinance. Coverage limited at ten thousand dollars just had one of these in a multi-million dollar claim. But yet space stacking, and you have maybe one hundred eighty thousand dollars, a sheeting gotta redo the ten thousand dollars coverage you're paying for that little bit of a discount when you ordinance and law, you're paying one hundred seventy grand hundred fifty grand hundred grand out of pocket is pretty significant where that's where a a an adjustment. The proper adjustment really can make a difference because you could be limited on the law and ordinance and the truth of the matter is some of that money can be pushed off into the regular repair. It doesn't necessarily all have to be part of the law and ordinance coverage. So it is really important to understand the policy and a adjusting is both a science and an art your takes years of experience to know how you. You can move some of these monies around and use other buckets of coverage. So that you're not out of pocket. Hey jane's. Maybe you could explain to the public went ordinance of law is basically code improvements, but it could be that you're in a gated community and all houses have to be the color pink. And you know, you want to go back and pink expensive color that year. So that you would have to be. You would be required to meet that. And in some time, it's an HOA. I mean, I was dealing with a a residential customer in Castle Rock, and they had paint colors. Right. The roof couldn't be darker colored. Then they're the house of the pain. So the bottom line is is that I mean, they made this roofing contractor and the owner take the roof completely off put on a right color from the HOA. So it's all in there. Well, another interesting things had clam, buddy. You're gonna prominent church in Denver. And we've got the claim from nine hundred thousand up two million one in the tourney. Call me one not add another trees like oh feel. I can't believe it. We're almost at your number. I said, okay. Looked at it and said, yeah, we're right at my number. Okay. Great. Okay. We're going to wrap this up as well. Hold on. Let me review at night. I reviewed it. With a two hundred fifty limited coverage on Hornets. Lots of big church an shifted over to about four hundred and change for a tapered installation on this giant flat roof and some other roofs on the property, and I was like hold on. Can you bought a week with an I went back? And I started testing said, you know, let's go test that flat roof, we just cut at the edges. I started cutting it up doing my tests cuts to the middle. I found that the tapered installation was existing was able to take one hundred forty three thousand were just moved experience comes in play. Like, I said earlier, and this is where we were great with the attorneys and can help them this. I took my contracting. Ingesting spares shifted the hundred and forty-three thousand over showed the pictures had my engineer run out there documented cost me about a grand, and we shifted a hundred and three over. So we fifty we only ended up seven thousand over our to fifty which saved our client hundred and forty-three thousand so we did it's the same number. But we would have been limited on that one coverage which bucket of coverage you put it in. And it takes experience to know that and and you know, the insurance companies want to do the right thing. I'm not saying they don't. But you know, if you don't know this. You could be on the hook for that money. No. Yeah. Absolutely beyond for that money, and the insurance company may not know it so when David. And the three my attorney into time. Didn't know it. That's where the expertise the multi brains comes in. It's really a huge deal. So we're.
"camco" Discussed on What We Said
"So I I like kind of go through phases. Like, I'll go through like unfaltering sprees on follow like all the celebrities in the reformed them. Sorry, g hit. Yeah. And fall. Oh, that's new of Kylie Jenner, right? And follow her than a week later. Like, okay, we're back. What did? I miss. Yeah. Catch up. Yeah. Right now, I'm really into fashion. I mean, I've always really liked fashion. And I feel like I kinda already follow everyone. I like, no. And like, and so if I meet new people follow them, but I think I don't I won't really follow like new people unless I think they've six style. Like, I'm kind of into that. Like if that. My entire explore pages. Just like slime, videos, and like fashion. Yeah. So if I see someone like a sick I'll fail like check him out if they've really cool style. All them the skyline spo-. Yeah. Like like, do you guys watch the San cutting videos? Yes. Hi, don't JC and interleague is it like the soap cutting. Yes. So cuttings lit to have a whole folder like a collection on Instagram like my favorite. So there's like I don't on my explore page. Yeah. The soap the sand and be like glitter in slime her folded hours at home. It's like seeing the phone. Oh, go watch it. It's a whole thing. Oh my God. That's basically what he's in for this area's style and slime seen the video on Twitter. Like, I was like the knives and the blow by guys tonight Clinton get not deal. I have but I don't remember show too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no explanation. His. Okay. So why did you decide to move to LA? What sparked that when did you move here? How long had he been thinking about it all that good stuff? I I moved here. So you guys with me on your podcast over? So I can I can call my mom now and be like Camco. Nope. They worked it worked. No. I I always wanted to. I mean, I just wanted to move could have gone to New York. I love New York to LA seemed like an easier transition because it's super close to home, and I know people out here. And I mean, you know, it's like every time I talked to you in like living LA three years later finally happened. Yeah. So I mean, I've really like I've been trying to get out here for so long. And I don't know why it just seemed so the tasks him so like daunting so intimidating. I didn't like I didn't push to offer years seriously like in early two thousand seventeen I almost had an apartment here fell through like in. Then things just kept getting in the way, I kept traveling was like this isn't like it's going to be hard from traveling so much. Yeah. And then. I would say like September of last year. I can HUD like a existential crisis. Like, what am I doing with my life? And I kinda just wrote down a bunch of things that I wanted like what like I'm really good at like living a life that I want and I was traveling a lot, but I feel like I wasn't progressing towards anything..