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1A Across America: Mass Incarceration in the Deep South

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1A Across America: Mass Incarceration in the Deep South

"This message comes from. NPR sponsor. Xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like Xfinity X.. By get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make WIFI simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply. This is one A.. I'm Joshua Johnson visiting visiting WBZ HMO in Birmingham Alabama Alabama's prison system is by some accounts. The deadliest in the nation. Fifteen inmates died by suicide. VR In fifteen months from December. Twenty seventeen to this March. The homicide rate inside the system is six times the national average. This is all according adding to a recent report by the Equal Justice Initiative a nonprofit based here in Alabama that helps the wrongfully convicted Devon Hill spent. Two decades in. This state's is prison. He was released this year. Here's how he described his time in prison verse. You know because when you live in you don't even really understand like like between a week's time might've been eight stabbings you know only when you see it on paper do you realize wow you know because it looked so bad on paper when you realize the. US Justice Department has repeatedly condemned the conditions in Alabama's prison system. This April a new report on the men's ends section of the system condemned it for widespread violence sexual assault overcrowding and understaffing. How did things get so bad and what what can be done about it? Let's discuss it as part of our special project one across America collaboration with six. NPR stations to highlight more local and regional perspectives Theresa homes is the Mother of Matthew homes in Alabama prison inmate. Who killed himself in February? He was incarcerated at Limestone Correctional Facility ability in harvest Alabama. That's the same place where prisoners went on a hunger strike this summer to protest inhumane conditions to reseal welcome to the program. Thanks for having me first of all. I'm very sorry about the loss of your son. How are you doing these days? You're right yeah I I I can only imagine can you. Can you take us back to how you found out that your son Matt had taken his life actually found out the morning after Another inmates wife had contacted me and told me I never found out from the prison itself. The prison never contacted you. Lost are they did not take us back to the conversation. What exactly were you told about that? It happened or even the circumstances. I had gotten a text from another inmates wise asking me how the prison contacted got it. Me and this was the morning of the fifteenth and Had told her no and she asked me to call her. I called her and when she again asked me. Are you sure the prison hasn't called you and I told her no why what was going on. And she told me that she said I. I I hate to be the one to tell you this but but matt killed himself. Last night I went from there contacted the prison and they phone bounce me from person to person to person and I finally got in touch with the warden and all he could say to me was all I can tell you. Son took his own life last night. And that was it. He said it just like that. Just like that and said That's all he could tell me because it was under investigation then. He did say that he put me on hold and came back and did say that they tried to contact me. They didn't have a phone number. which is definitely not true? My phone number hasn't changed in twenty years. Tell us about Matt and what his life was like before and during in prison. Why why was he? Incarcerate Matt was incarcerated for a robbery conviction in two thousand ten That was a good kid with a good heart. He did get mixed up with some kids. The instant things outside of home that took him down the wrong wrong road Inside Prison Matt Grue- unfortunately inside prison but he had made a lot of a lot of accomplishments he had recently gotten a electrical tech degree He was on President's list. Danes list and he was enrolled in for a special program at University of North Alabama. Emma when he passed away were there any signs theresa any clues that might might have been considering taking his own life. I talked to Matt Five days before he passed away and he was he was quiet. Act I I don't I don't know what was going on. I didn't know what was going on. And he's kind of quiet and within a five minute call. My Son told me six times that he loved me and the last time he told me he said you remember that and I ask issue was he okay and he told me yes but something settlements Avi knew something wasn't right but from past experiences. I knew that if I called up there to ask somebody they would. Just tell me my son's a grown man. They can't talk to me about it. I'm sorry what does that mean when they say your son's a grown man like he should be able to suck it up and and handle it more or less or you know he. He had a medical thing going on a few months before and I had made a phone call to ask why he hadn't gotten medical attention. And that's more or less what I was told. Oh that they can't discuss that with me. That he has a grown man. Had He ever talked to anyone within the prison about out the possibility of him killing himself I understand he spent some time in solitary confinement. Is that right. Yes and he had discussed. That Matt has tried suicide before and they knew this Matt had matt was a mentally ill patient. He was placed on mental health observation before they. I put him in segregation. He was in south compounded when he took his life. Can you point to. In retrospect theresa any maybe one or two main factors that played the biggest role in your son taking his life. Either something that was done not done done wrong done too late. What do you point to the biggest biggest factors in all this? They do not take into consideration that the middle will in the prison system. They need treatment. They need attention and they're not getting it. My son was on mental health observation and was taken out of there and placed into segregation. And him telling them that what he was going to do. And from me talking to other people that that were in there. He was begging for help and I refused needs to give it and from what I'm told. He was told to go on and do what he was going to say. He quit kicking the door. I'm sorry wait till he would quit kicking the door. Explain that hey was kick in the door begging somebody to come help him. He was telling Harun what he was going to do. And they allowed it to happen just kind of shut him up. Yeah I guess Theresa we we want to talk with our panel about what can be done to improve. What's going on in Alabama's department of Corrections? It seems like more and more Americans are more compassionate passionate these days to the plight of people behind bars that more people are saying. Yeah we we need to do something about. This doesn't make sense to people on any side of the political spectrum. What would you say to the Alabama Department of Corrections to Alabamians? Who are listening to this about what needs to change? What message do you have for them? Well I can say you know my son like many others fall and still fight daily to to be treated humanely. They denied proper medical and mental health care but unfortunately they lost that battle. They need to put more effort into making sure that these inmates. Let's get the proper medical and mental health care and I made a promise to my son on after he passed away and not in to keep my promise that I will do everything in my power to make. These changes happen so that this doesn't happen to another inmate so that another Mama don't have to go through the pain of losing her son or daughter threes. I know this is really hard to talk about. It's hard to hear certainly not as hard to hear as as it's been hard art feuded deal with. We are really grateful that you're willing to tell your story. Theresa homes is the mother of Matthew Holmes who took his life in February while incarcerated at an Alabama prison his and theresa. All the best you take care of yourself and thanks very much for sharing your story with us. Thank you thank you. Let's continue the conversation here at WBZ HMO in Birmingham arming hand. Joining us in studio is health and science reporter. Mary Scott Hodgson Mary. Scott Welcome. Thank you Senator Cam Ward as a Republican in Alabama state Senate where he chairs the Judiciary Committee Senator Ward Welcome. Thank you and Karl. crowder is the executive director of the Alabama appleseed center for Law and Justice. She spent more more than a decade representing people incarcerated in Alabama's prisons caller. Thanks for making time force. Good to be here with you Karl and just your reaction to Teresa's story. Is Her story unusual usual in any way. Her story is tragically not unusual. Just this year there have been twenty two deaths either by suicide overdose host or homicide. The deaths continue unabated even despite the Department of Justice findings at Alabama's prisons are unconstitutional We you have to look back forty years because that's when this started The federal government. I had to take over our prisons from nineteen seventy ninety six to nineteen eighty nine are state officials have known our prisons were underfunded overcrowded understaffed and dangerous for decades and that's led to the lack of services and mental health care of medical care Lack of staff that pay attention for To to the cries is that that people like Matt They cried out for help and they were ignored. And we hear that that is happening every day. it's it is. It is really hard for the federal government to find a prison system unconstitutional. The standard is not real high but an Alabama. We've been subjecting prisoners to conditions that pose a substantial risk of of harm as our regular practice since the nineteen seventies senator war. What was your reaction to this report from the Department of Justice? Did it surprise you at all when I was first elected to the Senate two thousand and one of the issues taking on cheer dish room was the prison system correction system and it does anything but correct. There's nothing correct about the correction systems. It's reactive agency. It's not proactive. In a as Carl said you you mentioned that maybe it's one of the most dangerous prison systems in the country. I I would say the statute is the most dangerous. And it's heartbreaking. Because you hear those stories all the time in addition to the high suicide rate which unfortunately I think goes under reported as well as the violence inmate on inmate officer on inmate violence which definitely goes under under reporter. Those stories have become so common and I think sometimes what is a little scary is that we may desensitize ourselves to it and think well this is just the norm so it should be but it's it's hard not to hear that and not have some sort of emotion about it at the same time other stories like that including Parents and families being extorted from other inmates you know threatening violence on another inmate are threatened to harm their loved. One if you don't send money so multiple stories of death. Breath suicide violence. It's it really is throughout the entire system. Mary Scott could use zoom out a bit and talk about the the larger reputation of the prison system. We've been talking mostly about the men's prison system. Doj is also had a fair about to see about the women's prison system so this problem seems to be pretty global as it relates to the corrections support in Alabama. Yeah well the this recent. DOJ report was strictly about the mail facilities but is true that in two thousand fourteen there was another DOJ report specifically about the the large female facility that we have in the state called Tut wiler And that specifically detailed acts of sexual abuse and harassment specifically staff half on inmate and in two thousand fifteen the state came to a settlement with the DOJ AB- about that report And worked through it too. I think now now. They've complied with they said forty one forty four Orders from the DOJ And you know one thing to note though is that that report about Taylor was about one facility whereas this most recent one is about systemic issues within all the male prisons so it's much much larger animals animal so to speak but certainly these issues have been around for a very long time and noted by by the DOJ for for a while. I should know we did invite the Alabama Department of corrections just to make someone available for this conversation. They told us that no one was available but they did provide a statement. The whole statement is on our website. The one eight dot org but it reads in part heart quote we remain in a difficult position with limited resources which impacts both the speed and intensity for addressing longstanding issues unquote. Before I get your response to that Senator Ward. Let's listen to one of the voicemails that landed in our inbox. My name is Mona. I am an outside organizer with unheard voices of the Concrete Crete jungle. An organization led by inside organizers. Right now these organizers are pushing against false narratives such as the one Senator Cam Ward is attempting to sell to the public. The new prisons are necessary for rehabilitation programming. The guys inside know exactly the failures of the current programming and assert the infrastructure or prisons. Aren't going to magically adjective bring the true rehabilitative programming which adm politicians have always neglected and failed to invest in organizing to stop the new private prisons. That would only be built with the intention of having our children and grandchildren Mona. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Worth noting that Alabama's governor Kay Ivey proposed building three new prisons to address overcrowding or crowding at a cost of about nine hundred million dollars. Senator Ward the state. Government has a direct connection to the prison systems resources. And how they're spent. What would you say to me? Well first of all. I don't think construction by itself is the answer and if anyone who says let's just build our way out but that's the false narrative now I will say I've been to every prison in this state advice. Recent tour of Holman I think some of the reports that Some groups have released showing the conditions inside those facilities. You wouldn't put your dog in their at a wires hanging from the ceiling and home and prison sprinkler systems and fire alarm systems. That don't work so that people just have to our fire down the hall because the building so old and outdated wiler which was built during World War Two. I think the key though is on construction that you're building for better conditions to house mental health staff healthcare staff. But you're not trying to build your way out of capacity. I'm sorry before we got a positive but I don't WanNa believe specimen you said you said that the this system is so bad that if there's a fire in whole alarm it goes off so they yelled down the hall each other because the building is in such bad repair so my argument would be not that. We need to build our way out of this problem. My argument would eh bill to the current capacity if we have to but make sure we have. Buildings have functioning sewer and water functioning electricity and at the same time provides facilities. Were mental health can be treated. I mean mental health. Is the driving issue our prison system and if we don't have that treatment opportunities you're never gonNA solve this. I WANNA talk more. We're about solutions. When we continue with Alabama state? Senator Cam Ward Carla Crowder of the Alabama appleseed center for Law and Justice and WB. Mary Scott Hodges stay clips support for this podcast Anna following message come from the real real. The leading reseller of authenticated luxury consignment consignment shop luxury clothing accessories and fine art at unreal prices from your favorite designers like Louis Vuitton Gucci Cartier and hundreds more and and the real real authenticates each item to ensure its guaranteed authentic shop in store on the APP or at the real real dot Com and receive twenty percent off select items with Promo Code Real. 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Executive Director of the Alabama appleseed center for Law and Justice. Glad to hear some of you shared your stories about dealing with the prison system including clued here in the state of Alabama Robin emailed. I am an attorney. WHO's represented prisoners on Alabama's death row? The living conditions were absolutely deplorable horrible and the staffing was nearly non existent. When I visited with my clients we would be locked in a visiting room? It would often take hours to be released after the visit. I I recall once having to use the bathroom so badly that my client started yelling at the garden to open the doors. It took forty five minutes for me to be. LET GET OUT CARLA. I can't hear these stories without thinking of the Shawshank redemption. This feels insanely insanely cruel. It doesn't just feel neglectful. It feels mean-spirited and it feels nasty and it feels damnable. What the hell happened in Alabama Alabama? How did it get this bad? It got this bad because the perfect storm of high poverty low taxes structural racism and impermanent punishment. We have not invested in services outside the prison in mental health care. We've not expanded Medicaid. We have grossly inadequate substance abuse treatment. We have not expanded drug courts or diversion programs except for the ones paid for by people who need them most so our jails and prisons have become the defacto. Oh solution to Alabama's historic lack of investment in people in services and programs. I understand that I but the that's the problem in a lot of states and they don't have it as bad as what we're hearing in Alabama. This feels unique even among states. You have all of these exact same problems. Well I think the DOJ pointed out some reasons why it's unique in that is within the Alabama Department of Corrections you have a culture of corruption and ability inability to weed out the bad actors wardens who have overseen mismanagement higher rates of homicide and suicide in their prisons sexual abuse abuse of prisoners. We don't get rid of them. We just moved them around from one prison to another And also I can't emphasize enough. The lack of funding for prisons are our prisons have been funded. The lowest in the country and yet our incarceration rate is the fifth highest and has been for decades. So we're just are have refused to pay for humane safe housing and we've refuse to hold the public officials accountable that perpetuates a culture of violence and inhumanity. Any idea. Want to note by the way. I know that we're talking about the corrections department. If you work for the Alabama Department of Corrections or have worked we really want to hear your thoughts. What's about this? I don't want this to just be a chance to beat up on. People aren't sharing their voices because we have heard from some eight employees. Here's what Monica left in our inbox. My my name is Monica. Man's house a former employee of Alabama Department of Corrections and my opinion as far as prison formation is that report Mason begins against the top. FDIC allow me to be harassed bullied. And I suffered a disabling injury because I was a licensed for Dan Evangelist. uh-huh who actually cared about the mission statement. I was very very very pro corrections. I was team player but that seems to be not what they want Mary. Scott could you respond to what we heard for Monica in terms of the steps that the Department of Corrections has taken. I mean I'm sure the department it hasn't been doing absolutely nothing well Since the DOD report was released what what we've kind of seen as this most recent legislative session there was is an increase to the budget for the. Do See and a lot of that was to pay for a an increase in salaries for correctional officers. I'm into hire more correctional staff. Keep in mind that they're under a court order as well With a separate class action lawsuit to hire over two thousand correctional channel staff and then in these coming years so they have a lot of room to go with that and Salary increase still keeps like starting correctional officer maybe in the upper thirty thousand thousands around forty thousand dollars a year so the position itself. If we're talking about correctional staff You know those are tough positions to fill And then if we look at what the is doing they have this four part strategic plan Something that they've emphasized in recent months. Is this increase in. Contraband rates at the State Facilities Some folks have pushed back on that kind of saying what happens. After these rate you know they they go they they do get a lot of contraband But once those rates are done there are reports that the contraband comes right back in so and then the OC is also supporting this plan to build three new prisons to address infrastructure issues. Senator with regards to what else might be going on inside the prison system Nicholas asked what are the contributing factors to this problem. Are there more violent than usual prisoners lack of resources. A culture of violence against amongst I guards senator what about the culture inside the prison system into terrible culture and I think going back to what my colleagues just said one of the biggest driving driving factors in that is a lack of public policy support. You know if you're going to address the problems DMC there's laws to be changed but at the end of the day you're gonNA spend money ages. There's just no way around not spending more money on treatment and also talked about the hiring more officers. You GotTa pay more. We passed a bill L.. This past session that would actually increase their pay. But it's the lowest paid law enforcement officer in the state of Alabama is a corrections officer and it's guaranteed to be the most dangerous job you go due to every single day so a lot of time. You're going to have some bad apples to get those jobs. But I will say this we have to do more on the transparency of reporting and these abuses. Does that take place. Do you think senator that Alabamians really care about the people who are in prison. It doesn't campaign well to say let's be nicer to prisoners tough on on crime law and order three strikes near out that's built a lot of political careers and I just don't know if the political will exist not just in Alabama but in a lot of places to say you know maybe we were too hard on drug dealers. Murderers rapists gang members and we should treat them a little more humanely. That's a hard political political salary. Should go on my social media page. I get that Hartselle. Every day I was in North Alabama they talk and and had and all of a sudden. I really WANNA get down to fix this. You're you'RE GONNA have to rally public support. And yesterday. Someone told me they said. Why do you keep Talkin about this prison stuff? Lock them up the way to key. They deserve what they get. You know the same lines and I try to echo why you should care you know. The Eighth Amendment is still. The Eighth Amendment equals every other constitutional amendment. The bill right. You can't support the second intent that ignore the eighth and so we try to sell that public support is what's going to drive changing this. If you don't have public support your liquid fficials are going to go along with it. So it's a continuing education process. I've seen senator. There is increasingly a bipartisan argument around prison reform where Progressives and conservatives are both able to kind of attack the same problem from different different perspectives with different sets of solutions. That seem to interlock rather neatly. Does that kind of does that exist here in Alabama. Only way. The only way you'll ever fix. Yes this is through bipartisan support. There's no way to do at one. Part of the Republic can't do it by themselves. Democrats can't do it by themselves. The issue is I think there's a lot of common goals olds. The question is how you get there. We did that in Twenty fifteen when we did our part of the Senate's reform we have now however it's going to take both parties and we've had those conversations have been going. Well I just don't want to get overly politicized because again obey ever becomes Democrat versus Republican. The whole issue goes away and that's unfair caller. One real challenge is that there's this narrative that exist a false narrative that the majority of people in Alabama prisons are violent people who should not get out the parole board recently has clamped down on paroles. They stop paroling people for several months But what folks don't know unless you have spent time with incarcerated did people is our prisons are full of folks probably like Matthew who got in trouble when they were teens. Got Cents for twenty thirty forty years for robbery I have a client who I worked with. Who was severely injured in Saint Clair prison? He was in a what was called a therapeutic community his name was Antonio and and he had his ear partially bitten off because he was assaulted in prison He ended up taking programs. Doing well got parole. He probably wouldn't have. I've been paroled but for that injury. Because that made him more sympathetic to the Parole Board. He's been out for four years he's working his doing fine. If not for my advocacy he would have been stuck in prison. Because he would have been labeled a violent offender. There are thousands of Antonio's in Alabama's prisons and we are not giving them the chance that they deserve and Carla. Could you just compare what the typical path would be safe for. A convict behind bars in Alabama. Who does not have an advocate? WHO's trying to get better treatment trying to get parole trying to get to advocate for themselves as opposed to having someone help advocate for them? How big is that difference? There's a huge gap because the guards have up so much power they will write people up for disciplinary Incarcerate individuals cannot challenge their disciplinary. So they often have to fight to save their lives or to have food to eat or a place to live. There are homeless people in Alabama's prisons because someone else is living in their assigned bunk. And there's no guard or staff to help them find place to live so people are trying to survive in those conditions their institutional records look bad. They go up for Parole and the Parole Board says Oh my goodness they got into a fight look they had some contraband. Food Parole is denied without advocacy and their setback. Four or five years and stuck in those prisons there has got I think I mean I was actually at the the first day of Parole hearings that the parole board had Last week after two months delay. And you know it's it is really interesting to sort of look at the questions that come up like who who is paroled. A Lotta Times families and inmates they try to present you know. I've have participated in this program or I've gotten this certificate But also you know you have to remember that. Our system doesn't have a lot of we lack programming and we lack mental health treatment. We like doc drug treatment so we don't have the services on the inside to prepare folks to reenter and then once you know if if they are released I think they get what ten dollars a bus taken. A set of clothes when they leave prison. And we don't have a lot of programs on the outside at that point. Can we play another clip from Devon Hill. You met him at a meeting to discuss prison reform Mary Scott. He served twenty years in Alabama's prisons and was released this year. Me personally like I used to be real critical people who get out and don't possible you know because I feel like you should succeed on your wheel alone but I've realized it ain't that easy. You need support system. I went to the Kristen in at least twenty six times so I mean what about the people that don't have transportation you understand so understand why it ain't that easy to just get out it access services you know you take money and support for everything so for for those. Who Don't have the Niro will be much harder? Mary Mary Scott. Where does that stand in terms of the state giving released inmates more help in terms of reentering society? Well not my we. We have a very disjointed system as far as I understand of of any kind of community reentry programs the basically nonexistent what we have some some programs like here locally. The Offender Alumni Association helps with re entry and that's really a grassroots organization started by formerly incarcerated people so it's sort of like their groups that have kind of come together to fill in these gaps But we definitely lack re entry programs and then I think on the note of mental health and drug treatment. That's something system wide in Alabama we. We don't have whether you've been in the prison system or not so for a lot of people you know you think about spending ten twenty years in this prison system that you've just heard all these. He's horrific accounts in. And then you leave think about the mental impact that has on someone whether or not they had mental issues. In to begin with you know Senator Ward what would ideal we'll re entry program look like to you. Well I tell everybody this. I said look at a person's day before they're released and they're gonNA look that exact same way today after they're released you treat someone like an animal in a cage when they get out they're probably not going to be a nice person I think reentry we do not think that is a huge key part of what we have to do in addition to mental health treatment treatment. We have to help. These people reenter society and I think something Progressives and Conservatives can agree on is what do you want someone to look like what they will get a job had the skills else to be successful tax paying citizen that means job training that means life skills that a lot of folks take for granted that also means any kind of mental health or drug addiction treatment. It's a it's a complex system but those reentry skills can greatly reduced the potential for recidivism Carla. Everybody agrees on that. So it's really confusing choosing to advocates. That the governor's office is just saying we have nine hundred million dollars for new prisons and she's not saying anything about re entry. We can look to Texas X.'s. We can look to Oklahoma. Both southern states with high incarceration rates that have greatly reduced their prison populations by rehabilitative programs by making sure people people have the tools Something as simple as a driver's license Amazon identification when they get out and Alabama hasn't even started that process Mary. I got one detailed question. I forgot to ask earlier but Chris. One of our listeners was smart enough to throw it in. Chris asked how many of these prisons are privately owned prisons. And how can the state regulate them with limited funding. How much is this private prisons versus state prison? So correct me if I'm wrong but our system is we don't have any privately owned prisons Right now there is a facility shelby county that I think is education reentry prison so but that has been a criticism schism. I believe of the plan because one of the options. I don't believe it's been finalized. Yet is the funding system but That has been thrown out is to pay for these prisons. The three prisons that have been proposed is to build lease program where a company would build them and then the state would just lease them from that from that company. The state says that would not be privatization advocation because they would continue operating the prisons. But that's been a criticism I would fight to the death if we tried to privatize prison system doesn't work. It's never worked now. As far construction side goes building a prison private companies going to build it either way. The question is do you do it through a bond issue or do you do it through a leaseback but I think as long always they're run by pro about a public citizens by the Department of Corrections That's the way to go but I would not want to turn it over to private company to manage and run it. Senator Cam Ward Republican in Alabama State Senate and the chair of the Alabama Senate Judiciary Committee. Senator we really appreciate your time. Thanks for talking to thank you for having on this panel. WBZ ATM health and science reporter Porter. Mary Scott Hodgin thanks Mary Scott. Thank you and Carla crowder. The Executive Director of the Alabama appleseed center for Law and Justice. Karl thank you thank you. This conversation was produced just by Avery Kleinman and edited by Miranda full more thanks to WBZ gem one of our one A.. ACROSS AMERICA PARTNER STATIONS FOR HOSTING US here in Birmingham this week. One a across cross America is funded in part by the corporation for public broadcasting. 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We've gone from Monday to Ria being like I love show so much and I did not watch yet to then me immediately watching it and now I just I completely understand. It's it really. It really really gets you adjust. Does I watch six episodes on Monday and four on Tuesday. I'm done I've I've finished and was like I guess I gotTa Watch again. I'd probably going to start it all over again. Yeah we will talk about it. More in the Outer Banks Recap We do have them coming on the show next Monday. They'll be interviewing them on Friday very exciting stuff. I mean France the calendar invite invite to me into. This is the most excited I've been for calendar by and I had to remind her we have jobs others and yes Jones brothers. They were huge but right now in our minds and in our hearts yeah madeline and chase are the ones we want on the show and they're coming and the the amount of which wasn't person so bad yeah But yeah the amount tweets I set out to these people and we were interviewing Bob. Saga and I check my phone. And I had all these tweets from them. I miss some of them that I found last night that I was just dying laughing that I couldn't. I'm just like Oh my God. I forgot these people would actually be reading and listening to me and whatnot But they were very excited and really wants to come on the show and they seem to be fans. Barstool talked multiple them now. And I think that we're all best friends. There's just there's something that is very funny about this scenario and I'm sure we'll talk about it with them because this show has obviously been like a big break for a lot of them and like. I'm sure it's also crazy to them. And people are paying so much attention to them and their followers are going up and everybody loves a show and we watch a show on TV and we just see like and we're like wow actors so famous so we're like well untouchable actors and and then you actually realize that freaking out about their show being such huge such a huge success in there's like more in common and you you're freaking out about who's probably very regular person and they're all so freaking out because they follow barstool men it's like a vice versa type. A it just feels good. I feel like it's going to be a great interview. I feel like we're all GonNa get along great and hopefully some friendships come out of this. So we'll talk more about that. I want to talk about this quickly. Because if you have a story the other day about my endometriosis which I'll get into I feel like a one actually do a segment on it and I'll do that. I think at a different time. Not This episode like Bob Sagging Song this episode we're Talking Outer Banks and it just doesn't feel like it just doesn't feel like it fits here but I want everyone to know that I will talk about it in episode where I think that I could do. A segment in fits into the show I talked about it and simply I'm saying a friend like a common thing that I kept seeing. Will I saw? I don't even really know how to explain. What endometriosis exactly is because it's so hard to explain it's like a tissue that is host to be in your uterus. That just grows out into all different places in your body. It could be anywhere it could be in your intestines. It some people even go to their brains. It's it's honestly crazy But it only happens if women and my mom realized she had it when she was like forty years old because she's just like throwing up all day one day. She went to the hospital and they were like. Oh it's food poisoning centreback home and then the next day Easter Sunday they were like. I still don't really feel like this. Is Anything the doctor? He went home to eat his Easter dinner and when he was home called up my parents I was like I need to do. Emergency surgery on this woman Something doesn't feel right. And when they did surgery they realized that this thing called enemy troops is that my mom had never heard of before literally wrapped around her intestines will suffocated her to death like they said like a balloon. That's how hard it was strangling her. So if she didn't get that emergency surgery they said that she could have died because it would just literally strangled her to death. Us thankfully they were able to get that out but when I was fifteen years old I started getting extreme way bad pains at all times like not even just around my period just like all the time extreme cramps pains in my but that Fran has witnessed me like in the middle of nowhere might how it feels like a knife stabbing me it. So strange Just like tired out time. Just weird things happening to my body and then I got surgery in like two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen because I told my gynecologist that my mom had it in there. You have it and then they found it when they were stopped surgery and now. I just feel like shit again so I put on my story and so many women reach out to me like three hundred plus women. I was not expecting that many people to reach out and talk to so many of them and it honestly broke my heart that not only were they like feeling the way I was feeling but there were also just feeling extremely hopeless as well. Just in extreme pain. There's nothing to do. Everyone's doing the same thing heating pad. Cb We'd advil like all of the basic things you can do and also so many people mentioning how because it is such a like invisible. Illness it hurts. You show fucking bad. I can't even explain the pain but because it's not something people know about that. Well people just think. Oh you're being dramatic and so many people were all. I've lost friends because of this because they think I'm being dramatic in that. I'm complaining all the time I've lost boyfriends because my boyfriend doesn't believe them in pain all the time that they can be matic and I talked about this and I was like. It's so crazy that people can't just understand that this stuff is out there. 'cause Fran deals with me complaining all the time and she's like yeah I get it. You don't feel well and she's nice about it she's not like ovary. I don't believe you look is so crazy because I think that now hopefully more and more people are able to talk about it but it's it's people are still so uncomfortable speaking about women's issues like this and I feel like I one. I'm very proud of you because I think you not. You have a you have a platform you can talk about it. You can help other girls who have these problems. Because I've had this conversation with you wherever you have been in so much pain and you're like there is literally nothing I can do and for other girls who may be felt this ordeal at this to know that you also go through also can can be comforting and it's it's crazy if you look it up. I mean it affects so many women like one. It's they say one in ten women which is ridiculous that is so many people right and and so many doctors are still not aware of it. And they're not they don't have knowledge about it like there are endometriosis specialists and things like that that are good to go to define the gynecologist. Who is well versed in it? If your doctor doesn't really know about this then you're fucked. I've read so many. Where like people say their doctors telling them they can help them unless they want to get pregnant. Just not true like I was. How a role twenty nineteen surgery and some people who are my age being like they said I was too young type surgery on my client. This is just. It's so crazy in your right like I text you all the time. I'm in so much pain. I don't know what to do now. Something happened the other night. I was just in so much pain and I was like. I can't fucking take anymore. I'm just going to ask people if they also do save thing because I feel like I'm I talked myself into thinking that I'm going to die because I had some underlying illness that wasn't just to realize that that is what endometriosis is like just makes you feel like shit all the time unexplained and so many other people are down with it. I just WanNa say girls I see you. I read all your. Dm's appreciated all the lovely woman. I talked to about this kind of like sharing. Tmi back and forth but al it's comforting and if you do have Endometriosis struggled it. Hit me out because I will read. Your Damn. I will respond to you and I'll probably talk about a little more some other time. Get more in detail about it like symptoms and what because it just goes way deeper than people realize definitely and if you're somebody that has a friend or your boyfriend that has a girlfriend that struggles with it? You gotta be patient like there's you. There's just no reason to like. I think underestimate like how bad that person's pain his like. You just gotTa believe them like when you text min you're like this is a horrible horrible pain. I need to like chill and do nothing. I'm like okay. Do it like this. You know right have to like you have to understand that we don't like I don't know what the pain is that you're feeling but boy does it. Sound fucking awful. So I'm just GONNA support you in the best way that I can exactly and you do a great job at it and that's what I said to you when I text you about it. I was like feel like people need to hear US talk about it because people probably don't have it nate here. Their friends complain about it. And they're like what are you even talking about? What does that even mean exactly? That's Kinda like I feel like how my friends acted to when I was younger. I mean who really knows what that means when you're like fifteen years old and even for the people who do have it and like I was saying to myself like you're crazy. You're being dramatic. You're not just listen to yourself. If something really hurts it definitely just really hurts because yeah it is painful as far so yeah. I wanted to touch on that a little bit and we also have some great topics for this episode. This episode I am really excited about Like is the most excited. I've been about an episode. I think in quarantine. I don't know if that makes sense while. Actually maybe maybe the next one the one with that one I was talking about but I feel like our interview with Bob. Funny as always you said. He's like our dirty uncle. He's earn dirty uncle. He is as just alkyl. Bob Is really just. He's taken over that role It is it is very funny. There are two things I wanNA mention before we get into the topics to one. The giants brothers have a big announcement coming today. We don't know what it is They sent out a tax. That's happiness continues. There is an IMDB PAGE. Four happiness continues and has all them as cast members. I think it's a tour documentary shadowed to this girl. I know that. Hopefully she's listening and maybe she'll message me again. I don't want to say her name but she had message me. Maybe a month or so ago being like Fran draws brothers are releasing a tour documentary and I remember seeing it and being like. Wow that's gonna be awesome and an kind of going on with my day and not thinking about it again until this week and I tweeted about it and the girl had tweeted abby again it was like I told you I liked it. It was like no. I know I saw the DM. But there's so many times when like if I got that. Gm on like okay information downloaded into my brain. Now I know but like I don't know if she wants me telling the world that there's a tour documentary coming Fran. I think you bring up a great point with that. I feel like people need this message out there. If you'RE GONNA dias with information please be clear if we are allowed to share it or not because via Fran are usually under the impression that we are not allowed to share it so we don't. We always go that route. I'd rather be safe than sorry and say something that somebody didn't want us to say so. If you do demos with information that you feel like hey use this. Don't say my name. Yeah let us know in. La. We'll be happy to share. And I was also share the news and also happy to not share. I was very happy to receive the tour documentary. Dm because when this news came out on Tuesday are and the the they sent out this. I was like Oh shit. This is definitely the tour documentary. I felt like I was in on something so know exactly who should. Also we were trustworthy people when somebody. Dm's nothing and says don't share it. We don't share it. Why would we share it? They said don't share A friend I'm excited for you. I'm excited for the Jonas brothers. I feel like hey. Will we be seen in the documentary probably not? I didn't see any around us but one can hope we went to enough shows that maybe if they show the crowd a couple of times won't be around cross our fingers. Yeah it's quite possible and then the other thing that I wanted to mention was the pillow. Challenge is something that's going viral right now and I don't really get it. I just I feel like maybe a lot of other people feel the same way. The challenge is basically wearing nothing but a pillow and putting a belt around it and posting a picture saying Hashtag pillow challenge. There's no there's no like a charity. The challenges right now in quarantine a lot have to do with raising money or charities or whatnot and I tried to find the origin of the pillow challenge and Hype Bay had posted about it a couple of days ago and they had just written. The trend seems to have originated from sweeter style account. My foretaste fashion influencer duo style by Nelly. Both of whom post itself is of their pillowcase. Looks on April fifth? Since then countless instagram users have gone creative with the prompt accessorising pills with statement belts in coordinating purses off-white even made a look what they're saying but now all these levers are doing it and it's just it's just them and pull up so I keep seeing this too. I don't get it. I won't participate. I'll look at it and I'll laugh but I said I don't understand I think it's it's one of those things. People do challenges randomly and they mean nothing yet. This is challenged people saw. Oh the Harlem shake. I was a child at one point right Dan Challenges. There's really like this is a challenge. It's like here you put on. You can wear a pillow and that's that's about it but I mean maitre celebrities are doing it like an hathaway just did one and she recreated her like Princess. Diaries movie poster. She's got the tiny glasses and the big headphones and she made her. The caption was quote for Princess. Diaries so people are getting very creative with it. Just cracks me up because I'm like. Where did this come from of all the challenges that people think of this is this is the one that stuck everyone was like? This is the one we're going to do the pillow challenge for and we can make up any challenge at any point and have people do it. Yeah I guess that's probably true but it's I feel like it's harder than people think till I really get the traction going on something like this when there isn't a deeper point. Yeah maybe we need just like we should wrap blankets around ourselves. Blanket Challenge Toga Challenge. Everyone back whereas a sheet. It can literally be anything. Yeah could it definitely could. I mean that seems to be what the pill challenges. I'M NOT GONNA complain about. Its people are getting very creative but it just made me laugh because I was like where this come from and it was just nothing really. Of course I mean. Celebrities are born right now so yeah it makes sense all right. Well let's get into the topics for today's show. Of course we have our outer banks recap which we're very excited about. We told you guys we'd be talking about to handle. We're not doing it this episode and probably won't do it next episode because we have and Madeleine on and I'm not going to disrespect With that so now one after that maybe we also will be talking about Madison verse. Peter Oh my goodness hello. I wish that that wasn't that didn't happen but happens. Sorry for people stocks. Were going crazy right now. If you thought your doorbell rang. Yeah sorry if you jump and he thought somebody was there by the way. Nobody's coming over to my house. It's just packages Madison and Peter there shading each other all over the Internet. And of course we have our feel-good segment we have our listen your heart recap with Trent and we have an interview with the always lovely op sagging. So let's get into it. Starting off with the Outer Banks Recap Zone ALMAC cheap and three hundred like the Rome three hundred bitches where Detroit. Maybe living in the moment. But I'm not about to go hunting. I'm outta control but there's no way to go and there's no way. I knew I would be in black that on your way if you haven't watched outer banks and you don't want it spoiled. Don't listen to this segment because we're gonNA talk about the show and why humans thank you for that. Psa Fran let's get into it. Yeah let's talk about the show that is outer banks that has swept the nation sweeties nation has swept the entire world. Our hearts our minds included now leg up. He as a less creepy as possible. Because I'm realized why that they may or may not listen to this because I did not think listen to the recap with Robbie although I much appreciate that they did and I understand why they would listen. I loved the show. So if they want to recap gladly it kind of reminds me. I said a friend When we would talk about like tyler and then became our friend and then we had to act up a little bit to reign it in the rain at in. We'd be like Oh my God. We'VE DIE FOR TYLER. And now tyler is a good friend of ours so I mean I guess it works out in the end saying that you would die for people you become friends or just talk about how hot they are. I guess that yeah. I mean who's GonNa get mad at that? They're not going to be like you mean they're just gonNA quite a compliment. Your right so outer. Banks is a new show on Netflix. It is a team drama. I've been describing it as a mixture of one tree hill mixed with the OC mix national treasure mixed Riverdell. Summer saying it has really a little bit of everything which is why we have completely fallen in love with it. And it's a nice change of pace because Fran and I watch a lot of reality. Tv We usually have reality TV Recaps WE DO SCRIPTED TV show as well But there just hasn't been a really good one like this in housing goddess like this. It's that's very true. I haven't felt this passionate about a like this in quite some time that both of us have felt this way so that we can talk about it there are there have been other netflix shows teen dramas that. I have loved the society. Rea- get on that. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA love. But this was something that obviously Kaposvar attentions mostly because Congress attention and then she told me to watch it but yeah I would I would also say like it's like riverdale meets the. Oc meets bloodline. Did you ever watch bloodline? No a bloodline and that kind of has the dark murder drug situation that that bloodline has I was unaware. How much of a like treasure hunt mystery? Murders drug situation. This was going to be like I. I did not know that all one I was seeing like. Oh it's like winter hill the OC and Riverdale. Mike Okay and I'm saying Outer Banks and there's the pogues and the Kooks and and I'm thinking like I don't know summer drama. Just I was. I was really not expecting it to go. Full treasure hunt like my diety was just peaking the entire time watching the show because I was like Holy Shit. This is way more intense than I thought it was going to be. I agree with you. I did not expect it to go that route except at the end of the first episode of kind of expected it. I S I write down. But either way it was caught our attention through through ten episodes. Now everybody is damning me like Oh my God thank you ria for recommending the show. I almost feel like Netflix. Needs to cut me a check of some sort and the amount of Diaz. I have received saying that people are watching the show because of me is I feel honored. Although I know that they're not just watching it because it may WanNa make me feel good because they heard us talk about it. Let's start off with the first episode I think if you're listening to this by now you have watched the show. You understand the premise of the show. It's about a core group of friends. The pogues Kooks and John Be our main character. Our Star of our live We would die for Dr of the show. His Dad has gone missing and there is a treasure to be found. He knows that yes. And so it's hard because honestly the entire show is in episodes but it all is just like one continuous episode. Like the way Netflix did it was. It was truly impossible to find a time to stop watching like you the way each episode ended. You had to at least watch the first ten minutes of the next episode before you could pause it like maybe thinking about taking a break. It's the way they did. It was it was gray and also now. We've talked about this next episode button. When he finished net net Flix episode. It moves so fast now. Like there's no you don't even have a second think about watching the next episode because it starts to play like. I would be watching and if I was maybe texting you or something like because I literally texted you. Shrimp of consciousness. The entire time watching the show asking to say if you did text me the entire time. I texted you the entire time. Like just text made no sense half the time too and they go back and read some of them. I would go through it and then it would just be like there'd be a pause and I wouldn't even realize that the next episode was already playing like it was like a FARC. What just happened. So the next is replayed but yes John is the main character He's got his core group poems. It's JJ Pope and Kiara Ki. Ki Is sneaky. Aku 'cause she her parents. Are you know what well off? Have a restaurant. And she got to go to the Kook Kademi but she hates all them and is friends with with the boys and right away you knew that her dynamic with the group was going to be very interesting because I think at first everyone thought. Oh obviously she's going to end up with GIAMBI. I thought that I thought that as well although I wasn't necessarily rooting for that because it was not either there was foreshadowing that Jon. Benet was going to end up with Sarah because he was staring at Sarah. So lusting Lee. Is that a word I don't know I don't think so but I don't know. But in this case shirt lessening yes not the word I'm looking for at all. It doesn't sound right but that's fine. He had lost in his eyes. Yes there was new law soon as is for Sarah From across the way during their character and You knew that that was going to happen. Although when I was watching John Being Kiara I was shocked. Backyard was pushing him away. I know I know. And that's why I was saying again that this is hard for me to like stink about this episode episode. Because I forget what happened in what episode. It's almost like one. Big Thing by Wilson my initial reaction to. Jj was this kid's Bat News. I mean the gun at the Beach Party and I know things had escalated and Sarah so like we said Sarah Cameron. She's Kook Beautiful. Has Her dushi boyfriend topper. Great name for him. Topper just fantastic Douche name and punishable as so punishable and they're all the they're all this party and the fight and topper like has John be under the water like basically drowning him and. Jj where did jj even find the gun? Remember the scooter. Who died and they went. Tell Yes yes yes and the reason me and Robbie talked about this. We were like the motel was useless. The only reason I'm gonNA tell was in there was because Jj had to get a gun somehow right correct correct they yes well because Oh God this is I should. We should have written this down. They go on a boat. They're on their boat and they. It was after storm after hurricane and they saw a sunken boat in the marsh and they dove down to find what was in the marsh. The that was in the boat and they've found a motel key. They took that motel key to the motel went to the room. There is a safe gun money. Jj took the gun. That's how that's how changing the gun and then topper is basically drowning. John be screaming. Tv His job. You're going to die in the first fucking episode you serious and then. Jj Blah Blah. She's they stop people who are not happy including myself. I was so pissed at JJ But you know when we move on through the season you learn to love. Jj you learn that you would also died for JJ. Because I know I would end. Fran had a good point that I was thinking to myself that I was afraid to say. I didn't want to sound too crazy. But why don't you present it? I don't know what I don't know what it is about him. Being a Blonde Harry styles. Oh he is a blond hair styles at checkout his instagram. If you spend some time on there I'm not saying I did but if you do. There is one specific photo that really sells it black and white. It's like the whole James Dean. Kinda kind of vibe and they have very similar faces. He's like a blonde hair styles. You're welcome for that compliment. Yeah calls crazy Yup just Felt that deeply but it just it immediately was so fast paced. You had them obviously trying to figure out what was going on because scooter. Who was the man driving the boat? That sunk worked for Ward Cameron. Who is Sarah Cameron's father absolutely? I am Ward Kimball. Have I called him? Being Cam Ward the entire time in the PODCAST Robbie and then afterwards I realized that fuck I call them can wear the old time. Who's a hockey player by the way up Chase plays Johnny a tweeted like we'll come on the show of you admit that you called poor. Cameron Cam Ward the entire time. Which hand up. I do admit I did do that. And I laugh about it. I think Cam Ward it. Just Rozov Cam. Lord is a name war cameron his name right. They Cam Ward just. It sounded right down. It makes sense. That sound right to me is already a person ward is a last name. Cameron is a first name and those were flipped. Cameron is also a lasting. Yes it is. We do know that way the way that they combine. I don't know maybe just because war. I don't know like give him a game. I real real game argument. John No don't with John Lewis already person. George George Cameron. Yeah well you know what? They're you're cameron. I'm now thinking of so many Cameron's Tyler Cameron Tie that Ryan brand. There's tons tons of people the last name Cameron and then I was GONNA use. Tyler is example that his first name is in the last name. But Tyler can be a last name also so there should even tyler. I know I that was my first thought as well. So we're just completely wrong on that one but anyway scooter. Scooter was working for Ward Wards Big House Big Boat. Jambi works on his boat and he. He's he seems like he's got everything he is his children. Sarah is the Middle Child Rafe. The oldest the youngest daughter. There's really no there's really no mom explanation like rose is obviously not their mom. Step mom but there's no like mom who's their real mom conversation right. We don't find that out. I I'd also say we either a baller name or it sounds like you have asthma. It goes evily totally and I really thought at the beginning I was GONNA hate wheezy. She kinda push through at the end but there she was just she tattling. I mean she's thirteen thirteen so mad. I was like Keep John. B's name out of your fucking mouth. Yeah no she was tattling all over the place and things things just like you said escalated so quickly they're trying to piece together how scooters involved all of a sudden there are two very scary men who come out of fucking nowhere and they're ready to kill all of them here does. There's no explanation. There's just absolutely fucking henchman that come in and they're like. Oh Sheriff will help you search for the boat and and they're the everyone in town. They're searching for this sunken boat. That scooter was on 'cause they found spheres bodies. Now they're looking for the boat and these guys are just getting on their cigarette boat. They're like no problem. Sheriff we got this will find him and then he just killed the pogues pull up. They got a shotgun. I will say amazing racing by the pogues in the boat sat out to their driving. These guys right. They came out of nowhere. We never even got an explanation. Really about them did end up now. Dying later on in the show and they didn't really mean much besides the fact that they were also out for the Royal Merchant. End The gold We also need to remind everybody that Giambi found a compass in scooters yell when they went down the search to end the compass. It was his dad's and he knows it was his dad's in the open it up and there's a note written redfield gives Giambi clued. Go to this place and get this last voice message from his father. Which made me cry a lot. I will say it made me cry a lot and I also want to go back to the point where you mentioned that job works on Ward Cameron's boat and he bumps into into. Sarah tells her that he used the scuba gear. Yeah and that is when we tells on Sarah and John B and then you texted me and said that Sarah would have been great role for me and it was the nicest thing you've ever said to me. I will hold that to my heart forever. I mean ten out of ten. That's a role. You're dishing for like you get that script and you are auditioning for the role of Sarah Cameron. I will say I was really beating myself up with the fact the fact that I gave up acting for this have if I would have just stuck with it. I probably would have gotten this audition like about the amount of TV shows and movies. I auditioned for that are like big. Tv movies. I mean this would have been right up there because oh absolutely because they also they cast a lot of young actors and actresses who haven't been in other stuff really. Yeah I'm twenty two. She's twenty two could have been although I love. Madeline clock and I'm rooting for her. And I'm glad she got the part but I did as a huge compliment. You're welcome I have. I really meant it. I felt like as soon as she popped on the screen. I was like a God. This could have been real tennis. Just this is it but the connections honestly I will say I think it did get a little. There are some predictable. Things were the end but at the beginning with the treasurer and searching for this the Royal Merchant Gold I really had no idea what was what was going to happen. Who is connected to and you know. Sarah. He takes a Scuba Gear Jami Gear from the boat brings it back. Sarah's there and she promises that she's not going to say anything but obviously like you said we see titled so that he confronts. Sarah unlike really yells at her and it was very convincing. And you kind of thought like Oh this is not really going to work out but this could be skipping over a bunch of things but I is. I think episode four was my favorite episode one. Because I'm a sucker for love and you know that and sucker for a good teen drama rain moments. It was perfect. A Great Rain Seen Day. The neighbor getting dressed in the store. I think that is the moment I realized I would die for jumpy. I think that was it. I truly I looked at him and I needed to see him in some seersucker. Well here's the thing. No because you know I'm usually a person who would go for the way the pogues dress rather than because I have not like into the preppy nece yet but he looked he looked damn good and I was like I would die for this man right here. Right now is what it's all about bring on On but then. This is where I also fell in love with Sarah too. I was like I love them together. They belong together Thuc topper. I hope John Takes him down and I hope he cries in his bed at night thinking about them kissing on the dock in the rain. Yep I'm with you on that. They had to go to the mainland. Because Sarah had revealed that they had found artifacts in their home from the from the merchant. I honestly this is all going to get mixed up. And I'm probably going to explain this in the worst way possible. And I also forget the name of the guy. But they had the artifact said Golick the library of you're listening this recap you watched the show. You know what I'm talking about and so they're at UNC. They're in the library. They had to dress up. They spend the whole day together. They're flirting the whole time. You could tell it was super q and then they had code names for each other and everything and they get back. And obviously it's raining and Sarah's like look this is this is it back to our back to regular life where we're not friends and you know you're you're you and I mean and this is at and she starts to walk away hours like wow. That's really going to be it but then you know. He stops at yells. He she turns around they kiss. It was magical. The fireworks went off. I'm neglecting Donnie out. It yeah look every iconic show has a moment like this that you look back and you're like yes I. Th I think. Hill with Nathan and Haley and the rain at like. There's there's always good rain seen this was it for them. I felt oh I also want to say that there is a tidal. Want Your Hill because if you watch one tree hill junk and Fergie are you know. Part part of the show Second Tier Characters. I would say but Johnke is a policeman on the show. He's he's a cop and I was very happy to see him back in the game. A dirty cop one might say a cop that won't rust trust him. Let's hug with sheriff. Peter King by the way also ended up calling her Peter. Oh Man I just was named their hard yet. Hard to remember it. I did not know how to feel about this chair because I couldn't tell what side she was on. I was like if she bad she good and and they stay played very ominous music. Every time she talked and just the way she talked. It'd be really short sentences and it would just end with like dot dot dot and then cut ever seen like. It's just like well John. If you don't tell me where your friends are we're gonNA have a problem and they're just and custody and the music is in the back of Thunder John. Every time I was like why do I? I like hives every time. It was just a very unwell feeling at all times. When she spoke other she did turn out to be a good cop. Not Bad cop. The other cops were bad. Yeah I WANNA go back and talk about the Kooks and pokes fighting each other resod in the beginning when topper almost drown Giambi and that was ridiculous and then we see it constantly throughout the show. Where the Kooks are always on the verge of murdering the pokes. I just was like okay. Let's take a chill pill on the almost murdering every single time. They get into a fight. How is this possible? But one of the Times. It's so true there was no late. Low level couple punches. Maybe a Black Guy. You walk away. It was the verge of suffocation every time every single day was strangled and killed every time. The anxiety was pumping but one of the times They get into an altercation. They beat up poked with golf clubs and a the anger inside of me wanted to punch lease boys and in the face for him and then pope tells. Jj engages like we gotTA retaliate. Which this is when I really started to love. Jj I was like you know what this guy is a ride or fucking die for his friends and I'm with that. Even though he has his gun he takes out. I started to Robbie. It's like this is the end. When he's like Bang. Bang Jonah Hill in the gallon conflict or tweet me when she takes the gun He just always almost uses this gun but he tells Jj and they're like we need to go retail retaliate. And they go sink one of toppers boats. Now topper and Rafe. They figure out. Oh of course. This was pope. Jj and stay. Tell the COPS They try and arrest. Pope and JJ stands up. He's like no it was me. I'm GonNa tell the truth. Once in my life it was me takes the fall for Cope in front of Popes Dad. That's why. Jj is a real one. And that is when I decided I would to die for him because he just took a beating from his dad basically for pope because he got arrested he got bailed and then his dad beat the shit out of him in the car. It was absurd. I was screaming at my TV J. Paul J. J. has just a tough life. His Dad is absolutely disgusting. Beats HIM UP? He's an addict and just terrible but this kid would still do anything for his friends pope. They know he's got a lot on the line with his merit scholarship and can't get into any trouble so. Jj like you said took the fall for him. Jj Impo have very cute friendship. And I I like you said it went up and down for me. Jj throughout the season. There is times when I was like how. Jj that was really really stupid and timezone like okay. Good for you jj now. The Times. When I was saying good for your jj basic as it was Jj's fault to begin with it was his idea to sink the boat. But you know that's just that's obviously just the kind of care the kind of kid he is but still still definitely have have love for. Jj things also really interesting. When obviously John and Sarah started to become a couple and were hanging out more and Sarah was still have this topper situation she had figure out An job brings her around the first couple times. Because now Sarah knows about the treasurer and she's in on it and jars like it's me are her like if she's in. I'm out because they have this history where they were friends. Freshman Year High School We don't know what happened at. I just had some big falling out now. Kiara hates guts and they really really do not like each other until the boys forced them onto a boat left them stranded on the boat all night. Just Sarah and Kiara where they had to make up and they kinda hope for the best and it did work. We found out the story. She wasn't invited to Sarah's birthday and she called the cops on the party. They were like best best friends. But Sarah's got a problem we've seen it she p somebody gets too close to her. She pushes them away. She did with topper when they were about to have sex and she did it with Kiara I guess like when their friendship became you know very serious in pushed her out of her life now. I texted you a theory. That boy I wish was real because in this moment I was like Oh shit. Kiara definitely has secret feelings for Sarah and Sarah didn't reciprocate and this explains why Kiara keeps turning down all these super hot bullets and this will come out that like something happened between them. Nope not the case. She just wasn't invited to the party so a friend. I loved that theory from you and I would have been shocked at all. I actually was Kinda rooting for that situation as well as other people online saying the same thing. I thought that was going to happen. That would have added a whole other element to the show. I voted for that. Maybe Sarah would have left Giambi as well in Kiara and Sarah. They did make up and they bombed over a blunt and they were talking about nipples rise in is from nipples. I saw decided which I would choose. I've been thinking about after awhile but it was a great scene and then they're all together now. They're in a pack and everything's Great. We forgot to mention when topper fucking pushes Giambi off the water tower and we think doggies dead and he held that Gossiping. I mean that that happened after they all made up but Orlando. It happened before that happened before they all made up because this was at the midsummer saying when. Jj delivered the note to Sarah and we. Are Dan know yet. That was a part of it and then yet they told them that after and Kiara was so bad. That Sara job were together because he wouldn't have fallen off the water tower in the first place. Now there are some obviously stretches in the in the dash is what happens with these kinds of shows like if you watch you're a fan of Riverdale like you understand that sometimes absolutely absurd. Things happened that you know could not happen in real life but this is a TV show show. Yeah and one of them was John be getting pushed off this fucking thing and getting a concussion and a broken wrist that a concussion and a broken wrist is like if you fall six feet like he was fifty feet up. Could've been more like he was so high. I ONCE AGAIN DODGE. Omni died and was shot. Of course you know. They wouldn't just kill him off then But he ends up in the hospital and this is when a war cameron becomes his legal guardian. That's an idea too right. But you have a parent. Yeah that's why they all become friends and he needs. Karen Sauer to get along is because now war cameron is in charge of Jon Benet. Yeah yes zoster. Yes he's tried. He's avoided being put into foster care at this point. That's the last thing you want to do. Obviously his dad was missing him and his. He's supposed to be legal. Go Guardians supposed to be his uncle but he's nowhere to be found so ward who sneaky now at this point. We're starting to figure out that he also wants the treasurer looking for the treasure and realizes that these kids know what's going on and like you said. Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. He forgiven adopts John Closer and he is now living in living in their house. And you just tell that word was really really also wanted this gold at this point. They a at this point. The pogues have also located the goal. They know where it is like they. They found the map. They found the plot where I'm going to skip skip over a lot of the logistics here. Yeah they found the gold. It was in a well with a really scary old lady living in the house. She was absolutely terrifying. She reminded me of I'M GONNA forget there's like another really scary old blind lady from something that can and I don't remember what it is shoot. You're thinking of either but I like it could be any. Oh Harry Potter this is yeah. Yeah if you know what? I'm talking about six movie when when Harry and harmony they yes. You'll you'll know what I'm talking about very scary Old Lady. She's she's blind. They're stuck in the house. They chase her out but they find the golden well. It's all there And then ward basically over. Here's them talking about it and then puts two and two together because that house put on sale and he puts two and two together. That must be where it was. Kids had rob the house and now the owner had to move because they were scared of this woman. Living their loan kids robbed a house puts together. That's where the gold is and he takes off. Girl takes it takes all of it this son of a bitch but he didn't take the gold until he brought. Jami on a boat. Any said they're gonNa have a nice day fishing any gets John be drunk. That son of a bitch brings a bottle of fucking. Tito's or whatever and he's trying to get John Drunk and he thinks Johnny's GonNa Spill about the gold that I was so proud of John in this moment holding his ground and being like I'm not going to tell you Shit I don't know any and then this is me find out that aboard. Cameron had basically murdered John. His father and Jami has to get away from ward because wards acting like a crazy person and he's trying to kill John just like he did to his dad and Johnny escapes on a Jet Ski. Got Up to jet skis and you also see that clearly ward also killed the other henchmen with his with his giant Hook tore them apart and throw them in the in the ocean hoping they would be eaten by sharks or something and the trail is getting longer and longer of people. That war is killed at this point and it is absolutely ridiculous. He gets away finally he does also talk with scooters wife who they have been trying to talk to this whole time who finally reveals to him. What Ward had confessed to scooter about everything going wrong with him and John vs on the boat and killing him and then we find out this is like I said things really get and then we find out jobbies. Dad Wasn't really ridiculous jobbies. Dad survived getting his head bashed in in the middle of the ocean and landed on an island castaway style where he was able to survive as long as he could. He had the COP as he was able to sketch the last clue into into the compass before dying. Because you know the sheriff had found his glasses on the island and went to the island. Gazette swear they knew. Scooter was going to the island so now John B knows for sure that his dad is dead and that ward is just absolutely horrifying person and also. The sheriff is putting two and two together. That Ward is the bad guy. And that Shit's going down. War Did all this and at this point. I'm trying to think I'm now. I feel like I am skipping over stuff. 'cause now I'm immediately thinking plane ward has the gold he say guest over HAMAS. Yeah so at this point has all the gold because Giambi went to the house. Get the golden he realizes award-winning God it. As soon as he came back he stabbed himself in the arm to make. It seem like John. Be Hurt him on the way back. A word comes back and he tells Sarah that he she can't be John B and he's making it seem like Giambi's crazy giambi's like hey sour. Your Dad killed my dad. And she's like no. That can't be possible. It's my dad and now ward and John B are in an all out war where GIAMBI now feels like. He's got a takedown Ward Cameron. He finds out that Sarah is going to go to the Bahamas with war. They're going work on his business. Ward is trying to get Sarah out of there so that she can't figure out what's going on and he drives to. They don't drive there. They end up at the place where the plane is about to take off. He sees the gold being put into the plane and then he gets in the van any derives through any derives in front of the planes. The word has to stop and write magic the play to to Sarah definitely put into that. That was the gold in the right. She started started panicking. Yeah she started. Panicking pope actually is the one who was like. Hey guys. My Dad said that you know the plane was heavy in. They need help and he was like we. GotTa get there fast. He has all the gold in the plane. We gotta get it and he left the Mary Scott for left in the interview. Yeah so we have left in the middle of his interview for the Merit Scholarship. Yeah they WANNA rider his future down the toilet they would ride him die for their friends and John B Sarah Struggling. And he's like Oh no. He's he's forced ground to the plane. I gotta get in there. The plane stops of course Sarah once we would be like. Oh my God job he like Sarah like fuck you ward and then finally the sheriff shows up and she's like ward. You are under arrest for the murder of John Rutledge. He's getting in handcuffs. This is a cheering moment. And then that asshole. Rafe comes out of nowhere and shoots sheriff. Sheriff Peterson and they place the blame. All on B and War Cameron locks his daughter Sarah Cameron in her room. So that you can't tell the truth I you know we didn't talk enough about raping an asshole throughout this entire thing. He sucks so much in the shell. Juries a great person outside the show but he sucks so much in the show. I fucking hate his character and then he fucking killed the sheriff and blamed it on John I. I have not felt hatred for a fictional character. As as much as I do for Rafe in a long time like there he just throughout the show is just the privileged kid who is total dickhead. He's doing drugs. He's selling drugs. He's absolute disaster. He you know. He's whatever feels unloved by his dad. Give me a break and is just makes these horrible decisions. He's beating people up some. He is just like really. He's just so messed up. And the newseum shoot the sheriff and I was like this fucking Kid Oh my God and continues to be a piece of shit lying to everyone talking about how it's all John. John Bees like the most wanted man in the world. This point is faces everywhere. They haven't been hiding Is just absolutely insane. Sarah finally figures out. What's what's happening. Because They Kiara snuck up to her window. She was locked into shower the poster that they've been lying in. Everyone said that John. Be that you know the ward and Rafe. Everyone saying that it was John B. Who did it and it was just. It's just ridiculous words. All you'll learn that US it's family the lines blur right and wrong. You just gotTa stick to tribe whole lot of bullshit so much bullshit and so you know. We'll skip through the all the basics John B was on the run he was going to tell The sheriff's Office that it was rape who killed. Sheriff Peterson. High couponing say Peterson Peterson. Whatever Peterson that it was rape but he has blood on his hands. Any here's the radio say. We are looking for suspects In they say his name and they describe him and then he runs out of there. The police don't move. Don't move. Any fucking sprints Eh. He's just on the run until the end of the show. Basically I mean. We can go through things that happened. He ran away ended up in one of the one of the kooks houses. Vanya was locked in. The bathroom may ended up in the church where him in Sarah. I think had sex for the first time. I'm not exactly sure up. That's what happened. Had I think it was? Yeah and then. Somehow topper ends up there because this is just that show as lost his mind talk or loses his mind and takes. The blame went out the blame. He puts on John Sweatshirt and walks out of the tournament his first to prove his love for Sarah. As IF SARAH IS GONNA fucking end up with top or at the end of this. No you know topper. Really talk about your. I love making crazy. He absolutely lost it for for her. Pretty much Yeah when he was on the run things really were insane. Islands aided voided John. B Make the Police Force look like big chumps. These can write. These guys couldn't catch him all season. Long there's no they just looked like pretty Pretty bad police and then things got crazy too because like you said he was locked in the laundry room of of the Kids House is I forget his name but he has topper guarding the door as he runs off to get the the cops and the whole time. You're like Oh us though. Just an adorable John be moment when topper was like. Oh to fucker and he was like Oh man like why. Why did you gotTA use that worse? Yeah probably John Yeah. Houses do make loud Dataman but would that is very lisette unbelievable again that he topper without hearing anything. John was like able to move the dryer or washing received like like anymore. That's obviously the dryer vent that connects to the outside air and he just he moved APP. Dryer didn't make one sale. This guy is superman. Yeah it was. It was fantastic. He escaped again. There continued to be on the run. Were I'll just say finally they come up with a plan to fix up. Jj His dad's boats they're gonNA meet at three PM. He and Sarah GonNa get on that boat. They have a plan. They're gonNA ride away. They'll stay in stay on the boat. Standard replaces end up in Mexico. But things like things don't totally workout. They ended up the Herman's they are on the run. There on Powell boards. Sarah gets caught by friends while John went back to the house. Because you wanted the the gold which one goal they had that one is gold they had also powerful moment when he stood up talking to the cops in their car and steals their car in the cops. Be like a pack is driving gay sheriff's car and like that has made them look real dumb. He had made the most terrible. And then obviously we saw Sarah go and try to tell the people that Rafe killed. The Sheriff but award. Is there obviously being a monster as usual nonsense Runaway and now these two are on the boat and there's a storm Bruin and things are getting a little crazy Kiara pope. Jj were all taken in by. The cops are questioning because they were obviously seen with the cop car in the spot where John had taken off in the boat and now John and Sarah are on this boat. There spotted they send out other boats to chase after them and there is an extremely large storm. A Tornado may be even that they're going into and they're not turning around and they're like all right. We need one last hope. Let's get bored Cameron on the radio the John B. If you love my daughter take a look at her and turn around for her. You guys are going to die. In that storm please turn around and choppy just goes. He's like word. Are you listening to me? I'm coming for you. And he's in this moment when he did not turn around for. Sarah I was like fuck yeah. He hates ward so much that he now is going to kill himself and Sarah and his daughter because he really really hates him and rightfully so he was like you killed my father. Your Son Kill the Sheriff. And now you're framing framing and the cops were listening they're like oh boy. Got a question or it after this. Yeah they're like. Ooh maybe we. Maybe we got this one wrong Missouri's on the boat. She's like I'd rather die than live without you like they're ready to risk it all. This is this final. Mo- these final moments like I just hide my palm on my forehead because first of all all powers out. So they're like oh we can sneak by they go the gut like the Goddamn FBI. The SWAT like every everybody is in this one spot and that you're telling me they have to take that boat right past that spot like they were like Loaded the tile take us. There was no other route out of there than right past the obviously have to go right past the lights. Turn on. They get caught like you said they're chasing after him. John is basically like fuck you. If we're dying we're dying together and you don't get your daughter back They go. They have to turn into the storm. The storm absolutely takes them down the the boat flips. You're like Oh shit are these two bucking dead luggage. That is that it in my head. I know they can't be dead like this. The whole thing. There's no way and of course because this is this is television folks. They they survive. You know next Morning Robert. However many hours they've been in this water they survive. They're still together and they spot. A huge tanker ship cargo ship out in the distance. Sarah uses a one last piece of gold to reflect the sun to try and be like a signal to the boat. The boat sees them. They FLASH THE LIGHT THEY PICK THEM UP. And what do you now? The boat is going straight to the Bahamas. We're all the Golden Glow. Just like you. I was like Oh no. They did not die. I was yelling at my TV. I was like ice where to God if I do not see Sarah Giambi's faces at the end of this finale on going to lose it. I'm going to lose my shit but thankfully they're on their way to the Bahamas now You know I'm obviously. We want a second season but at this point time they sell them a second season now. Netflix has approved a second season. Which obviously will I mean? They're not dumb and yeah that actually Yup so that will happen I. I don't know what I'm rooting for. But I'm visiting Sarah in Jambi lounging by their fucking mansion pool in the Bahamas with all the way up in the first shot of season one. That will be great. I feel like I feel. I won't happen. I I feel like they're going to be chasing this gold for multiple seasons and is just GonNa be just out of their grass Waitress every time out of their grasp. I'm hoping that Ray Ward Fuckin- justice is served. I I don't know how but something's some is going to have something better happen but it was a pretty insane final episode. I think if you've got the OH. Wow that is far fetched. Yeah that's the whole point. That's that's the point yes. They survived that horrible storm and they were rescued by giant cargo ship. That just so happens to be going to the same exact place where Ward Kohl's I shop. We are for them and like I said I cannot wait until we ABC's into I hope it's average or battle. Ask and the first one like it was already so traumatic. Give me even more. I'm with you on that. And it was fantastic and I'm so excited to. I'm so excited to interview battle and chase. I mean we didn't even really we were. We kept a pretty cool. I will say as far as the love for John. He goes throughout this this recap but there are so many things. I want to say that I did not say. Do we love him? Oh of course like we said the shirts are on sale. We would die or John B. He also very much appreciate appreciates. The shirts on he reports on his story. He seem so really appreciate us. Being fans of the show and Madeleine as well An pope talked as well and they just are excited and they're excited. We'd like to show and I'm excited. They are coming on this show so that will be a lot of fun will get them to answer a lot of questions that I'm sure we all have Diaz if you have specific questions for them. Don't make them like weird. Don't be like Oh Giambi would you marry me? Because yeah you know micro say As you say John. Would you marry me because we're already going to ask him about us because we all want him to? And it's just not hang is lurking funny. No you're very right. Look I said about race. I didn't feel that much hatred toward a fictional character. Ivan felt the love for fictional character like this in quite some time. Maybe since since Lucas Scott Scott got was really like one of the first fictional characters that I really loved so much it. It's it's close to that. Really is yeah. I'm trying to think about what kind of character I like. Just as much as him. Maybe Tim Bargains Tim Tim you. Yeah that's I would think that's a good one for you. Tim Reagan's though it was kind of like. Yeah I loved him organs but you also now banging your best friend who is in a wheelchairs ex girlfriend so i. I don't necessarily think you're the best person job is to pure to two parties precious. He means a great life Yup end. He's not bad on the is not at all not even a little bit. I mean let's talk about it. It's insane it's insane. Yep exactly at ladies. You know. We're talking about friends we got. We have to reel it in. I know That's the dominant say. All right I'm done thank you. I don't know I'm trying to be done but I don't know if I could stop so by the shirts I would die for drumbeat if you would die for him because I think yeah every of pogue. Life Stephen sweatshirts on sales. Well yeah by the way people from the Outer Banks. Not Happy with me not happy with me at all about my shirts. But they don't understand talking about the show not actually the outer banks. Siam decided that it's like I mean obviously because it's this is different too. 'cause it's fiction all but like feels like when you would ask people who are really from the Jersey shore about your sure and they about the show and they just were filled with absolute hatred and I feel like people could feel that way about bank said that the actual location was not shown truthfully enough in the show but TV faith. Exactly and I think that wraps it up for the recap. I hope you guys enjoyed it and you listen to US longer than I expected. I am pretty sure that was an hour. I'm not. 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And let them know that we sent you. That's function of beauty dot com slash C. I. T. Oh we got some bachelor drama behind the scenes Madison. Happy Eater Yeah. They can't stop shading each other. And honestly that's give us the entertainment we need during this time. It seems like Madison went on Kaitlyn Bristowe. It's off the vine Pod cash-out in Brazil. We love her And she spilled some stuff about Peter and she said that she didn't you know she shaving him but she did it in a respectful way recycle shading for sure it was very nice shading like the shares there but it was like the way it was communicated. It still sounded. Nice now is like if you say an insult but in a really nice own exactly is like less of an insults and she said that Peter had been texting her just two days before he was spotted with Kelly in Chicago. Tea It is insane so first of all. She says that she also talks about how she and Kelly were like. Best friends on the show. And how obviously things are different now but that you know Peter was texting her seem like maybe he wanted to reconcile or see if they could work things out so she just she just communicated that she kind of obviously felt really weird about this really torn about it because ban two days later. There's the pictures of him in Chicago on her birthday. No less end. Wow I now and so she just continue to talk about that and obviously that got picked up. That got picked up on everything that was on. That was ever signed by Madison. Tell all interview the whole thing. She's talking about Peter. Lu- Peter did and then Peter commented on not even like off the vine post Bachelor nation scoop the Instagram mccaw posted a just off the vine recap basically and they posted clips from her on the show and they written caption Madison. Really dish. The T. Today on Oh TV. She opened up about Peter texting her two days before respond. Chicago Kelly emojis. What are your thoughts at all? She spilled Pie. Pete commented on hide. I was about to say pile peak is. I'm reading his INSTAGRAM NAME. But needs call. Pete commented on that post the bathroom agent scoop post tagging. Natty in saying you'd think you'd have a little more respect for the situation given we both know there's more to the story dot so once again here. We go like the wheel keeps spinning. It's just fucking never ending with this guy. And all of his women going on and we knew something was going on because all the girls made that tick tock all the girl tons of does appear season made that tick tock. Kelly clearly wasn't in it. Somebody commented whereas Kelly Man Matty said with our ex. Ll Yeah you could tell. They're not happy but the thing is it's hard. Obviously we know what happened with Madison and Peter. It's hard for Madison to pull the. She was my best friend card. Because you guys were both on the show competing for the same Matt. Yeah so yeah you guys were best friends but you also were competing for the same guy in the first place you know. It's not like Kelly just took Madison's man. Kelly also was competing for the same reason. It is Kinda strange that after everything. Kelly is with Peter. But you know what are you GonNa do? At that point. There is nothing. They're not going to be friends. Kelly would rather be with Peter clearly and there's just there's never been so much. He said she said I feel like in post show in a in a long time because it's just madison side of the story. It's peters out of the story. It's barb side of the story. It's Kelly side of the story like everybody has their own version of what is going on like. Madison went on talking about the texts. She received what texted Madison sent back to Peter. If she send any back obviously she's not talk about those. But maybe that's what Peter was alluding to but also Peter Maybe maybe just bite it like maybe to swallow your pride on this one. You're with the girl you like. You clearly have a crush on Kelly. Madison you guys broke broke up again on national. Tv after your mom tried to absolutely eviscerate her like maybe maybe this letter win this one letter. Just let me just take. This weight is the word of this rate. Yeah she eviscerated Barb of Viscera did her am. I not saying that read. No you probably are. I probably have been saying you're wrong this whole time. Would you say I don't I don't want to eviscerate to to disembowel somewhat deprive visser rate eviscerate. Sorry I'm just sounding it out. Yeah I guess that's the correct way to say it this serrated let's just I don't WanNa make my styles of sound even dumber let song okay. Anyway this might have been one that Peter could adjust let it slide. You know and then like the cycle would have ended. Maybe that maybe that would have been it. Now it's like us Peter going to say anything else is Madison GonNa say anything else. Is Kelly going to jump in and say something? Hopefully not just never actually never ending drama with with this group. And I'm fine with that. We are back with our listen to your heart recap. It's week two. We have Trent with us. Hey trend you're welcome of. We are excited to talk about a another episode of listen to your heart. It's GonNa. It's getting interesting. I feel like were pulling into Paradise territory and we got some good. We got some good dirt. I do want to say one thing right off the bat that I gotTA learn these names. I. I'm usually pretty good about picking the names up within the first two weeks but now we're headed in week three and they're still a couple of people who I don't know who they are so I'm having a little trouble with that otherwise I'm still on the show. I'm just having a little trouble getting to know these characters as opposed to other seasons. I feel you try and it kind of feels like we don't have to get to know these characters. It feels like this is gonNA sound me. It just feels like we're not gonNA get attached to them like we would with the other seasons so we feel as if we don't even have to remember their names. Although that's not true we will end up remembering them. I'm sure we'll get attached to them. That's just kind of what it feels like right. Now was a strange part of it. Too was the first time we saw Chris Harrison this week. He was in a different outfit that we're used to seeing and not that. He's not taking the season seriously he definitely is but something about that outfit. Was sort of like yeah. I guess I'll stop by the mansion and I'll give them a descartes and then I'm GonNa get the hell out of Ya. I thought it was like his cool music outfit. Like let's you know like oh I'm chill. I'm hip like let's all sing a song together guys. It was like it looked like neo from the Matrix yet. The jacket didn't really have a collar. I think also that was a little weird point to it but yeah it seemed like a like a Chris Harrison. Cool Guy Outfit I like and I also think that with the names thing. It's because we're seeing so much of certain people and then like none of others like we're we have gotten so much. Jamie and trevor that Lake. Somebody like Becca. Who's BECCA BEKKA? There's Louis searcy whose job really is on the show like she her. Beckon Danny back. Danny Danny days the Dylan. Danny's how I tweeted about Danny so much before I knew who it was. That people were tagging him under my tweet and he was like dude. That's meat unlike your Danny. This is a good way to introduce yourself on the show he would be in conversations with like the Jamie's and the trevor's but I would be. They would never give him like this is Dan. They got no Airtime navid guy date or anything so it's fair that we don't know these people because they've spoken for two seconds on our. Tv's we don't know them. But like you said Chris Harrison was the first to Compton he had his Alpha Don. He Added Day card. It seems like as always listen to your heart is just going to be his catch phrase for the whole season. It is the name of the show. Yeah as always very excited when he says it for some reason. I don't know it is the job. They don't yeah but on the Bachelor and the Bachelorette the not like all right here comes the Bachelorette right. Yes you but there's more not really as I was saying I was like I don't think that's right. But there's they have their own catchphrase. Chris Harrison has his own set of lines that he does for the Bachelor and the Bachelorette that he had to mix it up for this one so this is his listen to. Your heart is just him saying? Listen to your heart. It's like ladies and gentlemen final rose or ladies. The final rose. John Finals for the evening you know is just he just has to. Yes go by the books But Jamie got a day car the first day card and seem kind unfair. I mean she just had a date just like we don't want to see any of the other. People obviously shade took trevor. I was so pissed about that because why she just had a date. There's a million other people show. Give them a date card. Oh you're doing this so we have to watch Trevor Jamie together. I Know Sand Trevor. I could just see right through him. I'm like off in what I said. Last week to still stands like people were like always so hot mic. You can't see that this so-called hotman is actually extremely devious. Yeah what what are you? Waiting for? Rias rage tweets about trevor. I would just like waiting for them to happen and they happen all in a row like they were just exclamation points. Capital letters you. I LIKE TRUMP. Either either he clearly. He's not like a great person. Which we we find out but like rea- really doesn't like Dr we'll end to top it off his ex-girlfriend Sierra we discovered that she follows us on instagram and follows chicks in the office so like there has been interaction with her and Trevor Socks. Trevor Sucks Yeah. I think that I don't think he's great. And I think that I've seen that from the beginning and I worry about people genuinely. This is why I'm yelling about how much he sucks is because I worry about people who can't see through people like that. It scares me that people could just like Jamie Ball. Yes just fall under the trap get manipulated. It's like be a little more aware of the people you're surrounding yourself with. That's devious person. You could tell yeah. Yeah She's twenty one and she. She says that ever relationship. She's ever been she's been cheated on so of course she's attracted to this guy. Trevor who has a history of cheating? Yeah Jamie just like has these blinders on where she thinks. He's so good looking and he's going to be such a good musician. They should hang out all the time. He was even sound as good as Ryan like. It's so clear to them sing together and reaches American idol. Who Yeah Yeah. I'm with you on that real because they so it was obviously like a classic bachelor setup they brought in Natasha. Who's a new girl and basically had Natasha say like oh I know Scroll Friends Shady. Shit happened the whole thing and then it cuts to Jamie Trevor. On their day in Jamie's like oh. I've been cheated on in every relationship I've ever been in and it's like a slow zoom on trevor. They might as well have just put the curb music in there as it zoomed in on on Trevor. Because he was he was toast and they also set up. Poor Jamie like just makes her look bad because she's like how is he single? Oh my God every all these other girls. Their loss is my gain. I guess like she's so happy and Giddy about it when it's all just a disaster and they really don't sound good together which I feel like is going to be a huge part of this show later on is like how they actually sing together and they sang girl crush on outside. They were busing. Whatever and knock it was just. It was just not good. I got a couple of things I got one. The first is. These dates are hilarious. That like on a bachelor and Bachelorette season. Let's get in a helicopter and let's look at this beautiful scenery overlooking the water. And listen to your heart. You'RE GONNA go play on a street corner for dollar. Bill changed which is amazing to what was my other point. What was I gonNA say shoot? I lost it. Oh I on them singing my other ones. I don't know who sounds good. And who sounds bad? I hear people saying and I'm like you sound amazing. They're not good. In my personal opinion. Just girl crush is just a song that lake you can get away with kind of whisper singing like Rian. I could sing a girl crush together and it wouldn't sound that bad and we stink at second really really a great thing and no no no the whole time. When I was watching I was like Damn I could be on this show because you don't need to be a good singer like it or not. Mark Good Singer. You need to fake it yes. Some of them are definitely really talented. I think rudy has an awesome voice. We haven't really got to hear her like belt yet but I feel like she has a great voice. Blake Jamie who sings kind of? It seems like she sings the lighter pop country stuff and it's just. It's not doing it for me. I'm just like you know when you sing Aga- like it's very easy to pull off as you're just kind of talking but I just don't sounded better better with Ryan. I don't think that Jamie has the right now. Because she doesn't you can't be running around thinking you and trevor from American idol are GonNa make it and also think that you are going to succeed as a singer. You need to drop the other one and just focus on your singing because if you focus on Trevor. I feel like giving the skull pep talk about her career. But she's focusing on all these bad boys cheating on her which I guess would be good for lyrics purposes if you had to write some break up songs but she surrounding herself with were singers then she would sing with Ryan they could only our and trevor would absolutely used just jump like stopping Obama. Her he would eighty like if he knew that he could grow his career and she would be left in the dust he would do it in a second in on a millisecond. Yeah so that's that's going to be really interesting to watch obviously Natasha's friends with Sierra. She doesn't really know. Trevor should never met Trevor. And they meet they meet on the. Shell and he's super awkward because he's like you look familiar but I don't know who you are and Natasha's like I know you're acts and I know that you've been doing so. Obviously Natasha tells everybody else. It's this whole big thing and she confronts Trevor and Trevor Trevor. And Jamie eventually talk about it and Trevor said that he was emotionally cheating not physically emotionally. I like to say when Natasha came in and she said that she was from the East Coast New York. I thought I walk through the door. I did I show up there But I feel like. She was intimidated intimidate. Not She's not intimidated intimidating the end not that. I like necessarily really like her. She was needed to come in and serve shit with trevor and friend like you said the emotional cheating thing. It's just cheating is cheating. Cheated on her in. Nossa in no scenario is a guy going to be like. Oh you know it was just emotional cheating and the person on the other side of conversation be like Oh okay all right all right. That's cool almost argue. That like emotionally emotional. Cheating could be worse because like emotional. No no no but listen emotional cheating to me like if trevor has spent months and months texting some girl being like I love you so much like this has been going on and they had all these deep text messages were they were sharing their lives instead of like him getting drunk and like making out of the Girls Club and coming home and being like fucking made out with somebody in the club. Like both stink go. They're awful and terrible but like I don't know I like I feel like the long term texts with another girl behind. Their back is like a little bit more. Backstabbing either way This conversation and Trevor makes me mad about situations that having been happened to me yet like. I'm already mad at Hank for something. He did not do because these are getting planted into my brain like I just I it take it. I can't take cheaters emotionally physically. I think you're a pussy like just leave. Just leave. The he said he was this guy. Supposedly interrelationship be single. I really don't understand how hard it is for some people. It's it's mind boggling really I mean I guess people don't have the willpower like I possess and like we all do but it's just it's incredible. You just know that. Trevor was like how can? I say that I cheated but try to make it sound like I didn't and he thought of emotional cheating and he was like that's it. That's the ticket that's GONNA get me out of this. When like France? It's just cheating cheating like you still look like an ass either way. There's no way around that. So but in return worked trump. Would you say if you had to pick? Sides now emotionally physically. Which one do you think is worse? I will say the scenario. The friend laid out makes me want to lean towards emotional but there is something about physical cheated her way more. The image is in your head right like cheating you picture. Someone just like texting. That doesn't physical cheating. It's like Holy Shit. Got there naked. That's not that's not great. That's all that's very true. They both are really really shitty and they both counters cheating and trevor laid this all out to Jamie and Jamie. I bought it all. I guess she's still in on Trevor. She doesn't really seem like she's GonNa be Ending that relationship or trying to talk to anybody else. So we'll see how that goes. I don't think it's GonNa go well And then we had a few other. We had a few other dates. Chris embry went to a guitar center where they got to sit and play guitars until the end of these. I'm telling you these dates are amazing. They're amazing go player street corner all right. Let's Google Little Nearest Guitar Center. And we'll have them walk around in there in a dark closed guitar center that had to cost like fifty dollars and it was funny because they were like. Ooh Guitar Center. I would look at these all these different kinds of guitars I do. There is a certain level of fraudulent on this show. Like for instance when the First Episode Win Jamie and Ryan went to Capitol Records. They walked in. And there's these world famous like music and to Ryan's credit he knew Peja News. Like Oh these are just people these are to play for so I think these people do love music and they want to become musicians. But I'm not sure all of them are all that well versed in like the music world. That's interesting that's I mean it's also like insane because there were getting such different dates. That is so funny like you. Said Capitol records recording with with a man who has produced John. Mayer's music and then they you said. Kristen breed you could to Qatar Center to have a sing conversation like they had a conversation with singing. Donahue was Hamilton did it was very Hamilton. Like like if that's all writing music is than anybody could do it. I do it every day around my house. Is I sing to Hank. And he sings to me. We talk like this constantly your show Bam. That was the data does day do that in a Guitar Center? And you're on the shows. Spit something right now. If I could sing I would and knock but I can't but it sounds like I am right now to do to Fred. Drop something you Gotta. Change something you've got to be like an because then they started. It was like well. You know as we're talking like musical theatre Broadway. I don't know how you're feeling but I think of Bali you. I want my my singing scrub from the record. That was really tough but whatever I mean th that's it's tough for them. It's time for us. We do it all they do. I literally sang a song before about in my apartment about a pouring hot wax super giant of the first time I went to the Strip God and I was just singing about it and it was fire so it can be anything it really could and they they just did it about their feelings and that Thankfully breed did not sing the story of her fiance dumping her as she was buying her wedding dress. Because that would have been even more depressing somehow but what does he worry? I think I bought a DM from somebody saying they had something. That wasn't true. Who knows but I'm just going to go with it being true. Because that's what she's saying. And if that's the case like she had the dress in her hand and her freon don't buy imagine calling up your fiance. Honey honey. I guess we're doing it and he's like put it down. Yeah we are back at your married right. It's like it's like when you're in the store as a as a kid with your mom and you're like so excited you grab something off the shelf and you run to her and your mom just like put that back right now. I'm willing to believe it because it is like a crazy story and it's an interesting thing to hear on a show like this but there is no chance those times actually matched up like that like whoever I don't know if you've zip up the back of wedding dresses but like someone gets done zipping up your phone rings and it's like Oh shit too much like a movies. Yeah yeah these taken it. Probably she probably found. It went home told her told her husband or fiance and he was like you. Don't get it because realistically who's saying that over the phone unless he really is douchebag than I guess he is. It's possible but of course there on the fast track. They both said that they were like falling in. Love was crazy stunning. That's never even happened on like on a regular bachelor show. I feel like it's been a couple of days and both of them were like this is it. We're in love. Yeah I mean they definitely have chemistry and they've been together since the beginning which is one episode but like at no point week. I mean we kinda get the vibe that they were gonNA maybe hunker down and be the couple that just kind of rides this thing out but I did not see them sitting in the Guitar Center professing their love. One another that came out of nowhere. No definitely not and then let's see what else we had a bunch of other dates mel. I'll mention this because it ties in with the other day. It's Mel Somehow is like deeply in love with Brandon. Last week we saw Malpensa Gabe. That meant nothing because I guess she is. She loves brandon. She's like crying brands whole thing. The Flint Tom Holt on she was crying over Brandon. The thought that had was who is brandon. Who is Brandon okay? Brandon was a big character on like everybody wants Brandon. Okay all right. I know him now. I definitely knew him by the end of the episode Mel was having a full-fledged meltdown that brandon was hanging out with someone else. I couldn't get your brand in my head. Julia once Brandon Sh Savannah Brandon Mel WanNa Brandon but there is another day to other tumour dates. Sharon got day card to Julia. They went to iheartradio Valentine in the morning and they got to do a very uncomfortable interview where Sheridan said that he has kissed anybody else but Jewish kiss other people and then they saying the bones together which was nice. I actually did enjoy their duet. Cia thought they sounded great to like. That's going to be my musical opinion. This all season like they sounded really good. I remember their performance rea- They were now. It's it's not gonna come back to me. Let me try many no no friend. I'm telling you there are moments in this episode. I was not thinking about the show and pay attention to it yet. Okay well that was. That was a moment. They sang the bones mayor. Morris and it's her song but hosier also does a duet with Erin on the song and I just feel like I wonder what the Song selection processes because I feel like maybe producers are like. Here's this on your singing practice and they just pick the bones because Sheridan Kinda has like Hosur vibes sort of and they were like this'll work. You gave Sheridan like a little too much credit there. No not voice wise. Maybe like just long hair tied to be nicer about this. Show something coming over me when we talk about the show and I think it's my hatred for Trevor. I think this kind of goes on everybody. It is it's polluted your entire opinion of the show. Yeah it is. But that's okay. Because he is bad person. Yeah but you can go ahead trump. Well I was GONNA say my favorite one thing that I did remember about this. Iheartradio thing was once shared. An and Julia got done the radio. Dj on the side was like yes he was. That was awesome. That was I love. That guy he loved it loved the perform. I need more of that enthusiasm in my life. That's the only thing I remember. Yes so they had this date which was it was a good day but you can kind of tell. The Julia is like on the fence about Sheridan. And we saw that happened before the ceremony to Savannah also got a day cards. She took Brandon. They went to a jazz club. They sang fever. These two definitely have chemistry. I can I can see that but like their date with other than that was fairly uneventful. Jazz go they went to a jazz club. And they sang fever There's really nothing else more to discuss about said date and that yes. Oh everybody comes back before the Rose ceremony? Everybody's making moves. Julia had told Sheridan that she still wants to be able to talk to other. People and shared seemed very sad mel. I respect now because mel she likes Brandon. She wants Brandon way on a conversation and just fucking planted one on him and he didn't he didn't pull back or anything like you did. He kissed her but he just one for it. Let for it and also to other girl showed up at the house. Yeah you're right it happened at Marianna and Ruby. Remember Marianna because it's just my last name with an a at the end super ton remember easy green and remember a new person. Are they going to have people dropping in all season or is that just going to be that? I didn't think that could potentially be the only time who knows but ruby came in Ruby also has colored hair which was tough because mel has purple hair and be kind has purple hair pink purple Very similar so that was a hard way to to tell because you could just be like. Oh Mel zone with the purple hair. But now there's another one. Purple Hair Mel smacks pulling on a put on Brandon. It should be noted and this might be what's also feeling reas. Anger is that Ryan was nowhere to be found during the whole Trevor Jamie thing earlier in the episode. He just wasn't around which was very strange. She got so much play in the first episode and then we were an hour and twenty minutes in and he just hadn't appeared whatsoever trying to read my mind. I was going to say that there wasn't nearly enough Ryan and then I tweeted that there wasn't nearly enough Ryan and tyler quote tweeted may wrote fix this at ABC Evans. Somebody put it up on their instagram. And mentioned Ryan and Ryan was not happy with me and Tyler. He was settled down. Guys everyone deserves. Love was like Oh Shit God all right and I I was like why. Are you telling Tyler settle down like maybe you could tell me to settle down but you know that? Also it'd be like all right Ryan Camman Pal. Yeah you're not getting much like you and you're also on a reality TV show like don't don't preach about how like we're all in this for lunch. Like come on. Yeah he was like we all need love. Y'All it's like Whoa. Yeah I'm watching TV. You're like an interesting character on the show I want to see. Can I get a thank you or do you want me to now? Boot you off the show Ryan because right. Watch watch what you say. I'll say in fully a week ago. I thought that Ryan was like it and I don't know how you're threatening to sue the nozzle return the faucet off not mention. Well he doesn't want it clearly doesn't want it. It's true. Down was very similar to settle down. He did. It's probably very very funny. So let's finish off the episode. Julia told I. Can't we told Brandon that She had feelings for him still. He was pretty floored he was like. Oh I totally wrote off. Thought shared worth thing and that he had been His focus had gone to Savannah and Julia got a little look caddy she. She calls van odd and was like. I'm surprised you even like her. Which was I like Julia a lot and I think she just had a moment of weakness there but it wasn't wasn't a good luck yet. Julia that moment for Julia was that moment? I thought Savannah was going to have on this show but it turns out. Julia is a little bit but eventually like it would have boil down to is like I'm here for myself like I don't want to worry about anybody else so I'm just GonNa do me but yeah that was. That was an interesting moment from jewelry. Yeah I as. I'm just confused. Obviously Julia is confused as well. But I don't the thing is i. I like her with Sheridan but I don't necessarily blame her for wanting to play the field a little bit but she also has to see that you know brandon. He's a hot commodity. I don't really know if you could just swoop in at this time right. No you're right. Everybody wants Brandon but I guess that shows that she's not like playing it safe. She knows it. Sheridan really likes her and she could just roll with that. I also think Sheridan is maybe like not her usual type and Brandon's probably more like the guy she goes for in that that's tough for her. We did get sick. So Brandon and Julia also kissed. That's another brandon guessing. Everybody and then Ryan got his airtime for the episode and it basically was just to really uncomfortable kisses. Natasha was one of them where she was like digging his nerdy vibe and the whole the whole conversation. I was just thinking like this woman will chew him up and spit him out like Ryan cannot handle woman like role. Now I just all I could picture my hurdles like was waiting out into the ocean. I can handle this. I'm still okay. I'm still okay and then it's just going to pull him under at some point. He was like he played it cool. I will say he was like. Oh Yeah I'm kind of Nerdy. You're you don't seem to be the type of enemy. And then he got a kiss out. It was a Raunchy awkward kiss but she got her entire head in his mouth. I'm noticing that Ryan goes for the all in make out every time and I respect it because like I said in the last season of the bachelor we saw a lot of uncomfortable pecking. Yeah and I feel like it's somewhere in the middle between the pecking and the extreme makeovers where people lie. Yeah but I think these people know the inside of each other's mouths way better than past seasons like they're really going in there. Natasha went in and then rudy also was just like hey. Let me make out Ryan just to see if anything's there it was just like wish like one hundred miles. An Hour. It was like there was no easing into it. Like you gotta you gotTa ease into a make out like that when you're kissing someone for the first time and they just literally lying so fast cringing out of my body right now thinking about just making out with people for the first time. It's never ever ever not awkward. We'll that's what I'm saying like I you couldn't tell if it was maybe Ryan who went really fast or rudy. Who went really fast. But if you're on the other side of that in like somebody goes in all your brain is just like Oh God no. There's just y what you're like. Why are they moving so fast? Now I'm gonNA move so fast. This whole kisses awful. I think it's it was tough a lot in this case with Rudy and Ryan. I think it's Kinda Rudy Rudy. All is a little untethered. Sometimes I like Rudy. I think I didn't hurt Matt. I think they might be my favorite couple on the show right now. Just because it's so strange and their chemistry is bordering on like fighting and kissing and laughing but I think she could have a tendency to gonNA make outs a little like. Let's go. Yeah you're right. I could definitely see that Rudy Rudy foot. Yeah really back to Matt. They had a conversation that was just. It's just wild because rudy goes through so many emotions so fast she's like like Rudy's like Kinda hit you but ha- don't know like I love you and you're like Whoa. That was such a perfect representation of for every conversation. She has yeah. It's it's and it works like Matt is just seems to be kind of taken by the wildness I would say because the thing in the first week where there was miscommunication about matt making her on the date as opposed to. I believe he took Mel and then made up at the beginning of this episode. Which I thought was nice and then it ended and they might be the strongest couple on the show. Yeah it's too. I'm ready for those two like I don't even know what I like. I just can't tell where they're like. Singing could go or whatever but it'll be very interesting The rose ceremony. Chris and the men were giving out roses so women were going home. Chris gave his rose debris trevor to Jamie Matt to Rudy Ryan Picked Natasha. Which I I kinda thought Ryan in Mariana. Had something but you know she didn't seem to really break through any anything so he picked Natasha. Danny and Becca like I said Dan Becker have gotten zero. Airtime absolute known history couple. Yes I keep getting back exactly Brandon. Pick SAVANNAH NOT Julia. A gay picked. Ruby haven't really seen any GABE either. Rubio was new and then shared in was last and it was pretty sad to watch because like obviously Sheridan likes Julia. It would be weird if he picked one of the other girls but he knows that Julia like isn't really that into him anymore so he had to like go through the process of picking Julia and he picked Julia and then as soon as they got everybody else. Brandon pulled her aside and was later. Yeah that was. I didn't approve that that was shooting not good. You try to do that in a way that he didn't want the cameras. Delight catching very much caught it and it was seems a little scummy definitely. Yeah I feel like it's awkward now because Julia doesn't really WanNa be with jared charity shared. It had to pick her. Because who else was he gonNA pick? He didn't really talk to anybody else. But I think that's Savannah and brandon fit better than Julia and branded but now that Brandon is acting Sketchy House Savannah GonNa feel about that. Yeah you're right it's it's it'll be interesting to see. Obviously that meant that meant. Three Girls Went Home Mel and Cheyenne. Who are from the beginning and new. Girl Mariana. So they're they're sia and who knows what happens next week. I don't know if more people come in or now. They're they're even so they just had these couples may be. This is when we started to get into more of the the singing situation which I think it is because it looked like they were like the couples have their first on stage performance. You had joe telling them that. They didn't have chemistry. Yeah I mean this is A. It's a six week show. We gotta get into the music thing at some point. I mean we're two weeks exactly and I think Chris Ayres Denise say like tomorrow everything changes so yeah. I think this might be the couples. These might be the people that were going forward with. And it's GonNa get more musical as we go to the final weeks. I just love that. It seems like we're just GonNa get past bachelor and Bachelorette people to come in and judge these people on their singing. What grounds do Joe Joe and Jordan have to should judge these people on their musical talents? Maybe it won't be musical. Maybe just be more like chemistry wise. But it'll be funny. It'll definitely be funny. Oh before we end Wanna say that RIA tweeted at Mills Robert Mills and said rob if you ever WanNa get if you ever want to set up one of these dates you know. Sheridan Julia went to the radio station. You're going to set up one of these dates where they come on chicks the office. You know we're we're ready to go. And he had a very firm response that that will happen in the future and he said the F. Word. I feel like he doesn't do that. He said. Mark My fucking words you know what Rob I am marking your fucking mind. I am living proof that Robert Mills you know. He may he what he promises he delivers on. He said I could do the luggage. I was the luggage guy. So he's one for one with me and if he did like yeah like where they bring a day. Two chicks hoarding dates. I would lose my mind. That would be a credible. It would be amazing. I would ask. We would ask the most uncomfortable questions I would tell us what to say. Which is you you tell me what to do. Just put me on the damn show anything anything really YEP. I'm very excited. It would. Hopefully I mean he said Mark my words so we'll see but okay. Thank you very much for joining us for our. Listen to your heart. Recap and we'll be back doing week three next week. A few what you are Thursday feel-good segment. We have a couple stories. We WanNa talk about some great things first off. Tom Holland spider man. Peter Parker really video. He surprised bill Bill Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel's son for his birthday. He was turning three and it really. Doesn't that make you laugh a little bit? Billy Kim. All Billy Kimmel should be like a seventy eight year old man. It just sounds like a fake name like Billy. Kimmel should not be three years. I really is a grown ass man. Yeah yeah as a full nine to five job totally totally and but billy super super cute. He loves spider man and Tom Holland was on Jimmy. Show and after speaking with Tom he said L. could use you know. Surprise my son. He loves spider man and he put on a little red mask and whatever and spoke to bill it was really cute because he's emmys turning three like he's still very small beauge just see on his face and he got really excited. Shy and Jimmy's older daughter who seems like a picture like she was like that Spiderman so ready to fuck in own the show and it was. It was very cute and Tom Super Sweet. What what I also have about this is Tom like. I mean. This is really a stupid thought. But he did the whole interview in his British Accent Right. And then you know he puts on the thing he spiderman. Happy Birthday is like. Hey happy birthday billy. It's me part. Peter Parker like and his his his Peter Parker Voice. I'm like wow seamless. Well Yes Fred. He is an actor. Meanwhile it's just that's just a skill I don't have like I mean y you're not doing that correct correct but I just I really enjoyed it and the video is really really cute. And it'll just one of those barricades videos that you'll enjoy watching Number two McDonald's is giving out free meals to healthcare workers. Now I know. Obviously people say McDonald's not the healthiest choice. But sometimes you just want. Mcdonald's like eat healthy for many. Sometimes you just want McDonalds. So the McDonald's CEO announced that they will be doing thank you meals which are special happy meals to first responders healthcare workers and police officers. Which is they already did it. It's come sane is like it's going to happen tomorrow but it started today for the next two weeks. We're going to be thinking first responders and giving them a free meal at McDonald's CEO said on breakfast lunch dinner coming up. Mcdonald's if you're a first responder show your ID or work badge or whatever and we'll give you a free meal we're going to put it in a happy meal box but instead of a toy. You won't get the trolls toy you'll get a thank you note from us who maybe somebody would want the trolls twain. But that's very nice. It's a nice gesture for McDonald's sometimes and I could see it if these people have a long day at work. Obviously it's crazy crazy. What's happening right now? And maybe they're just craving a mcchicken and they'll get it for free right shouts McDonald's. Yeah whatever happens to be able maybe not get delivered here. Somebody tell me please Raw we are here with a very special guest Bob Saggy. He has been on the show before we are very excited to have him back. I gotta say it feels comforting having you in my home right now. I don't know if that sounds weird but I feel comfortable. I'm appreciative of that. And it's in your home near that poster of Boehner Dogs. Yes listening Boehner dogs if you listen to. Pmt then you know. Owner dogs is Hopefully you know. Listen Adam Sandler He. He said he would think about it. Maybe it will be a movie. One day I don't know suppose is bound to be a movie poster right. They've already first steps already done. Make the poster and attach actors names to it. That don't know what it is. And maybe they'll just do it because they see their name on the poster and pocketbook over your shoulder so that'll be exactly. It's just like the no quote but it's the pocket book. Yes Rwangabo. Welcome to these to our homes. Bobby had spent about like a one year since the last time you were on our show so it's almost to exact debt one year so it's crazy that we're here now doing this from our homes to weird. It's weird but it's wonderful. I mean you know I I get to see a bed behind you. Really subjectively scary. Is that like motel? You're you're at a family home. Yes and I'm on exactly my man cave if that's what you WANNA call. I don't know I don't have a maintain that this might might. What is this is that you're you're you're Dan. It's no Dan's over this study. This is this is. This is not a big house so he has multiple radically Daddy. Dan Bathrooms which is really hard. Because I like to use all of them when I go and of course you don't want to leave one of them out. No it's a religious alpha. You asked us if we were with our boyfriend. I live with my boyfriend. So we're in our apartment together. That's going fine. Fran is with her boyfriend at his house. Long Island and you said your with your wife Obviously so how's that going? It's it you know it's been amazing and then I acted like a jerk a couple nights ago so then I you know couple couple hours of apology and we don't end up sleeping apart. Some couples I know like I was on the couch last night or I went to another bed. Rumor whatever or I stopped in my trunk And I know we're we're good. It's a good test this thing for. I think a lot of people are going to get out of this and getting split up or a lot of people are gonNA go. Oh my God. Let's renew our vows or where let's have a baby or something really google or great but now we're getting along good. We figured out our our what our duties are which. I never thought I'd be that. We're have to outline okay. I'll do the trash. I'll do laundry. I'll do the cooking and you do. The energy does the cooking in the You cleaned up really you know what's your experience with that honestly Since my boyfriend works at the same company and he does the same thing I do. Except he's a producer he produces podcast on talent. No big deal. But he but he he understands like we understand our schedules in like what we need to be working may in content. We can help each other out with that and also I think just like knowing when to spend time together in also spend time apart. Because I feel like if you're spending every second together then you obviously are gonna WanNa kill each other like hey. I'm going to watch this show in there. You Watch your show in there. It's all good. Yeah and that's what we've been doing. We were both were still binging together. Which is good. Because you kinda stopped talking you sit there. Watch things so everything I. It's a good way to. It's a good way to do it. I mean I'm in a house so it's Nice 'cause we do have that also. We can young go into separate rooms and during the day. We're working on different things but we started Sopranos at the beginning of locked down. And now we're already at season five just season five but yeah it's like you know you come together at the end of the day and you're like all right. Let's watch a couple episodes and then we'll go to right. We did the pandemic viewing which is a tiger king. This shows are shows that that might have broken through no matter what but I- he and really helped tiger king and also love is blind which I didn't WanNa Watch. I said I'm not watching. This is not my kind of show. I couldn't stop a Kelly was freaked out. She was like what I gotta finish watching this horrifically. How do you propose through a wall and now in real luck ran? I watched every episode as well so right and then I went okay. I need something sophisticated. We've been binging the crown which is not about a dentist. It's about it's actually the queen. It's actually the queen's ninety four th birthday today wow yeah that'd be birthday to the clean ninety four I don't know how into a teen dramas you are or like murder mystery lesson. I've been working the show into every conversation. I have 'cause they can't stop thinking about it. Show Outer Banks on net flicks if if you WANNA bench teen drama murder. Has It all a plus watched all ten episodes in one day? Just to reality. Show no show okay. So it's not like a. Is it a lighter? Version OF EUPHORIA. Kind of but like. I mean just eight. It's it's it's in the Outer Banks. It's very like more rustic more beach town you four years like city in gritty yet it's bt but there's also like like. I said like murder involved says hunt. Yeah and it tries to hunt. They're mixed with national treasurer at the same time. Yeah awesome okay. I want about think about it. Just who the liars that you read a little memes on that say. I finished Netflix snow. You didn't impossible if you made me. You're not smart enough to finish net flicks right right. If there's it's there's absolutely no way entirely impossible. Actually you don't have. Nobody could ever head. No it has to be the matrix that has to be checked but the back of the head. Oh I got major I got I got you know Netflix. Sorry I'll be over. Yeah last night. Start you guys. I was like exhausted in bloated and sitting there at sea turtle. I don't know what I was doing now. I'm already a knowledge shape where things are going. Good you know you have amputated. That's that's we don't have to see him exactly. I'm sitting on a broomstick you you. You're obviously doing this. Press two are right now for your new podcast which is clearly different than every press tour you've done in the past. Do you prefer getting to just call in from your own home instead of actually traveling everywhere as you guys know there's advantages and disadvantages of pandemic is. It's a nightmare and that we're losing people and then I have friends affected and do you guys have people affected. Do you know people just your heart just drops and you WANNA go album. I have a daughter Brooklyn daughter in downtown New York and the one downtown. Deers teaches yoga. Online's walking around the other one charter mood because I had the legs him on a room. Stick number my uncle that of but my other does in Brooklyn and people in Brooklyn still partying and night. You know. Social distancing doesn't show them on the news 'cause just did not and then of course Jacksonville's now open the beaches. Are you know which is like in jaws? It's like the mayor telling Roy Scheider get those people in the ocean. This is a tourist Occasion is our time Sir and then everybody gets eaten so I don't think that's GonNa Happen. I think it says weird but doing it from home for me. I mean I've got here. I've got the board here you know I've got I've got like my podcast board and I'm very nice. Harry a special. Yeah it's it's very it's official. That's that's what I am. I WANNA be official so badly. But it's what what's great about it is. I'm still getting to talk to people care by. Turn it up. Hold Up. I'm recording. That's great on your show. That's fine are what are what Jason the office on my podcast. To be on your podcast. It seems like it's going to happen. I mean if you're of course okay done but it's weird because I wanted to do this before the end of the year. I didn't want to podcasts forever. 'cause every kid across the street's got one you know everybody has where ups guys got one. The box about melodrama. Oh My God is a dad joke of soap. Rowdy myself honestly. You didn't even know you were saying that. Right now honestly. I just thought about how my brother like texted me. Once he want to create a podcast about the drama his Jim I was. Nobody cares for you. Isn't it crazy? Oh my God you you've got. We do a Sitcom about where I work. I'm an accountant. And it's really good and it cites Office and they got it just had people talk about spreadsheets or a hard drive. I don't know what the how do you break the Arca that season but but back to this whole thing I wanted to do. I've been doing standup. I was ready to do a whole tour. Right now That would have been and I was going to do a special my new special which is really different than anything I've ever done. It's kind of sometimes bluish but it's more of a software arts were. I don't know it has more feeling to it because there's been so much division and I don't like math number. They'd been so many. That are just so angry and I'm sick of it. You know and as got really tired of it so I was going on tour and then I was going to go podcasts because it went I wanNA do some of the people together so I- titled Bob Sagi- here for you. Isn't that horrible to say your name? Title Your Yeah so I was confused. I was like do. I say it's called here for you or do I save colleague Bob Exile fires fan like. Hey guys. Don't worry Bob Savage here for you exactly. The first episode is why. I think that I haven't Batman Complex because I'd try to help Eddie but try to help my core group. You know my family. My my drug dealer on my doctors minorities same runs that I can remember but celebrate for twenty years yesterday. Well that was the launching thing so I did but I'm not a pot one. I just I GET NEUROTIC DOOR. But then they said no man. This is strains that are good for you. I see yeah but they're called strains and and there are pots named after me That's named after you pods marijuana's named after as little plants all scattered. They all have little are all named Bob. No if Google is sagging sativa his actual probe and I get no merge and Leonardo dark this knew about it and I was upset. And he's like it don't matter he's happy you know so huge but no and I don't do edibles because that keeps me locked in syndrome has all the whole pie. I Don Hung so yeah. How about you guys? Is that mood soon? I partake I would say often friend not as much not as Yeah I don't know it's just been something I've been doing since I was fifteen and it. It doesn't make me doesn't make me feel anxious. It makes me feel the opposite. I feel calm. I feel happy. It also like this is crazy to people but when I smoke I like WANNA go out. I WANNA dance and people get the opposite reaction where they're like when they smoke. They want to sit on their couch and not do anything. Where like I can go both ways with it. I'm like that from the past. I mean in my early twenties. Spur few years of smoking all the time And I do something I do all the time. So that's why it's good that not also London for even for me because I had asthma as a kid that makes real popular walking around with your inhaler a running the wrong way on the football team. 'cause you can't breathe you know. Megan Megan a scoring for your for the opposition. That's wrong team. Seems like good memories are coming back for you Bob. It's really bringing a pot but but the but the Ford Twenty launch was fun and I'm doing three shows a week right for the first two weeks. I'm doing Monday Wednesday Friday and Friday's a special guest That you guys the no and I. I can't say who it is name is John and but and I know I'm a really long time because we didn't share together but I can't promoted or K. But we'll just have to take a guess we'll have Esau that WHO that is definitely not John stamos somebody God I sure somebody else. Well that's coming up also so I mean I've got the shows interesting. Had done something. That happened organically soon as we started. We did two episodes. We could do in studio studio seventy one is doing it and and then I couldn't do it there anymore. Just happen and the head of the whole division brings the whole kit for me. That's how crazy it got. 'cause we had launched and I started recording and I started putting up a number on instagram twitter. And it's in the menu where people can call you know it's on. What are we supposed to say? Is you can download for free at apple podcasts. Is that what you say? Yes Yup and you can string on stream on spotify while I believe yes. I think Friday spotify in a big way and you have. Everybody has an embargo but apple has been good to me because I really love getting music on their love apples of Yup so I ended up calling people have them leave a message and say hey between one and four tomorrow call people and they sit around weighty Anima Block numbers and some people. Don't answer so it's really embarrassing. Excuse rain but I'm leaving it in the podcast. Because that's what you do and I don't want to end it once we rea- but I called him. I called one guy last week. And he was so stoned all old time and he told me a heart is life was because he was from Iraq. From seven years ago we moved to the United States and house parents did give them a better life and their citizens and who scary going to be a war and then but he's laughing the entire time for thirty five minutes. He's telling me this stuff and then I talked to like nurses that lost a patient and one woman said our sons autistic. And I'm like. Oh my God where I'm not gonNA find. This is not a joke moment right. Then I'll be there phillip. I mean I'm trying to listen. I'm not a therapist but I've had a lot of it and I'm not any of these fake TV doctors. If I had a degree I wouldn't be doing what they're doing coming up a lot of trying to help. I don't know who don't know who to believe right. Look right now Fran looks like she's a prostitute. She's being out captives. I and she's got the bed. Go Hail record the whole thing. Let's go baby. Leave your money in the in the mailbox on the way out any anything you can do to make a buck nowadays right. Hey I'll do it one time. I did did I. What did I do as something for something? I can't remember longtime ago hot movie. I was a kid but But so I call people and then other episodes I got people like John Stamos John. Mayer Tiffany Haddish MacAulay. Culkin Howie Mandel. And I've been talking to. How Am Bill Burr over? Say how is how is. How are we handling all this right now? He's been? Ocd His whole life. Yes wrote a book about it and it gets we go deep on it. I mean I think it was like a ninety ninety ninety minute minute. Nineteen hid cast. We did a Piss pot together. He didn't touch himself because he can't 'cause he's got that thing but he was talking about his dilemmas in his life and I told him he's a pioneer that he's a prophet. I mean he's the one that started doing this when he touched people. But that's still dangerous. Can't do that this year face after you do that. Yeah NO NO NO POUNDS. No pound all over test bumper over. But that's that's a guy thing pretty not always. Well it's Kinda like and I feel like people have been saying this to you all the time. Now Danny Tanner was kind of the model for this. Just A NOTCH ASLI cleaning at all times we are now all Danny Tanner. That's what I and I even posted it away with kind of blew up and winds up all over the news. That's the world. Is You know it's over so people want to? That's the news but got nothing else to talk about. Sorry or is absurd get admits. He's Danny Danon Pass. We did that video that went viral. You can't say Enviro it went back to. Wow I'd never even thought about that now. Yeah of course Danny. Tanner would think that I would it read. That even sounds dangerous. No yeah the wind bacterial because you can cure but stamos it was. Jeff Franklin's idea created the show and then he had the whole cast. It was the funny part was texture out and then I made a video. We read the credits with John. Have like a big group chat. You all discuss these time. Yeah Dave has some book you wanted to promote long group chat. It's it's just a lot of people that are doing this. I know other people from casts of shows that have been John Krasinski been doing some amazing stuff of different people from the office and he's been amazed. This thing that thing he did with the Hamilton cast was like. Yeah you know we have been talking about. His showers been has been great and he did again to and yet in my podcast is like it's the same thing I've never been. It has to do output a more working person but I have. I WanNa make people feel better. Which sounds really weird. Because I'm not a licensed Masud's but it's a nice thing to do. I had my daughter. She called me and I can't put you on the podcast. And she went okay and we just talked about how like the New York is for her and I'm sure it may it. It's the same rea- you're in New York proper right. Yeah I'm in New York City right now in downtown Tribeca area And I mean I don't either balcony. Go out there but I try not to go on the streets at all honestly terrified a guy really. Don't even want to go to the store. And even if they lift it all and they say hey stage one stage two. I don't care I'm not going out there and I might be able to get the test the tells you if you had it already but then you watch Chris Cuomo and he tells you he had it any got tested positive so positive. Negative so wrong. You know it's it's really crazy how it's affecting so many people so differently. I know two of my friends have it and my cousin had it and my cousin came back positive and then now she's negative and it was like you know what I mean. Click she was sick for like a week. Now it's over Back negative this time around so i. It's really mind boggling. How it's affecting so many different people where it's like okay. This person was positive. And then when you check them again they're supposed to be like negative but yet they're still positive they don't know what's going on right. Yeah Yeah and that's the scary part and I don't even think I think right now we're in pandemic two point zero because one day it'll be like cloverfield a cup that's terrifying. What what a great reference. Though I am Cloverfield is a movie that my actually my dad watched all the I. It's actually a great movie and Abrahams. It really started the whole thing with his amazing career over John Goodman Cloverfield Lane. Yup I mean is something about it. There's somebody out there but yeah I thought it was germ warfare. I I just thought somebody attackers and then people try to suit a lot of people that are famous. Try to soon. Did the amazing video and a lot of people. I know are angry that they weren't in it so they try and then like like friend. Jim Norton Comedian. He Jim Been On. Your show has not now Jim. Jim said that video really choked me up because after I saw hug myself I was GonNa ask what you actually thought about that video because obviously was brutal we got his brutal and our company made like a parody of it. I don't know if you saw that but we all just huge barstool fan across the board. It's when you run funny I just have to check. Something is supposed to talk to your compadres that I don't want to but I have to. Which one's the AFC wait five minutes? What are they at one one PM Literal Heaven You now? Kevin doesn't have any kids to watch after right now but good for the kids Yeah I I think it's came from sincerity and from people that genuinely care and it doesn't really matter what anybody Zaentz just you know. Everybody wants to bash. I hate the word celebrity to begin with people. You got celebrities. It's like what are they gonna cut the ribbon at the market you know. Are you an actor you writer or are you a artist or what are you? You know. You're famous okay. So you're a celebrity. I you're like I'm not. That's the C word to me. I would rather be always comedian. Use an act aries director. So I've been working more now than I've got a movie. Were developing right now. That people would be very excited about a Canon announced. But if you'll have me back when it when we I'll probably be in person by the time the damn thing gets done yeah wait. I can't wait to be able to. We can't wait to be able to get back to normal but it's never. I don't think it's ever going to be normal. I know we've had that conversation of bunch to that. This is just something that will truly just change. The course of of everyone's lives down. Think anybody will really go back to living the way they did. I know myself like out in New York City in a bar or whatnot my brain. I'm always going to go to like. Oh God what am I touching touch other people and and I think that's going to be stuck with us for a very long time what you know. I know my wife's like that. She she really get an airplane when we have a Whiteson wife every everything because now they're doing it professionals. They're coming in and doing what they should've been doing. Becau- cats at cold just by holding the bathroom door in the airplane. But I've a friend George Wallace. He's a comedian. He's been around a long time and he tweeted that he was upset. Because he now he's GonNa lose all the Great Bat recipes that he had you could grill deep fry. Made is all the different ways to prepare them. Then he goes and what not and that regula laugh. It suggests it's real tough time even more division people. Don't believe Real Bob. I do want to say that. Obviously people are staying occupied during this time and a lot of people have turned to tick tock for that and I was on tick tock and I was scrolling. My for you page. And there's your wife and she's doing her famous relative check. I you when you got a a hot tub or something was I was like. Wow that was the last person I expected to see on on. Tick Tock right now. I've been enjoying it. I'd see they're doing so. Yeah thank you Bob. Well honestly the fact that you notice. That makes me feel amazing. Our thank you honestly. People people have been living. But the fact that Bob just said that he watches it. I'M GONNA keep working Danson when I go to Dance Caravan. Del Looks like the best dancer in the world. Compared to me but I do step on there. I actually did a thing for the challenge. Where you WANNA shake your head and I I just last thing was posted my wife posted and cutting your hair and I did. A angle was real like four inches off and she said I thought six inches of the punchline is glad she thinks more inches six inches wonderful. It's best you can never get tired of those jokes. Get in over again so I can do nothing but those jokes exactly. Oh Man. Well you're going to keep making talks. I hope yeah I like it. I got a million people so somebody said Oh you should announce that no. I'm a man of a certain aides. This thirty five but they can't help that but Yeah I'm not GonNa hit this ball you know. Sit here so there you go. That's your announcement that oh I did it. Online soups federal right. But the thing. I'm doing what you're doing. You try to make people feel better you doing it your mom. Wow this is kind of a Downer but it gives you somebody look forward to but also people are loving that you're doing so that's Kinda where I'm coming from with this thing. I'm trying to be funny. I'm not trying I are funny. I think so. I mean that's one of the things I'm really secure in but as you should be right. I mean a done a long enough. Somebody will dig it. They're like some rate. I've never I don't like to look at though it's different when I got a podcast. Those as having negative. But you know they haven't seen it. It is Lana Go. Hey and then they write fx Q. MG L. K. They have a seizure as they're hating you. Yes it's just the Internet like if you think about it before the Internet was around who you weren't getting reviews all the time from people you were never supposed to have access to this. Many people giving their opinion. I A bad reviews from fifty year-old man that needed full house and the video show and there was no there were no. There was no youtube but I did the video shows. So I'm like I don't like thinking how old I am. It's really weird. I was your outlet Crotchet S- or and Barciela nothing but crotchet since constant and I am so hooked on still president say on Daves pizza frozen pizza. I mean it's insane. It's so funny and gold mid suicide. He cut his thumb on. It's like I mean he's a purist in this medium which is gonna be so there's a whole new world coming and yeah zoom. The makes a whole lot out of nothing and it's quite impressive. It's really funny. It's like a microwave. Import only cared about pizza and didn't talk politics but Michael rambles in the same angry way but days really angry and he's got nothing box boom Shaka rappaport because Michael rapaport nice sauce. That's not right. Barstool employees more simply and then we had to fire him. I never knew there. I've always liked like it was really good actor. And he's got a niche for what he does but it definitely is. Is that one place. Yeah it was Dave and David Michael under one roof seem like a good idea but in actuality it was not right just fair you could see them having a similar kind of a New York. Kind of angry tab thing but Dave is. Dave really good at this and and really get this thank you. Who've I think the podcast almost two years almost two years in July yeah and then the just chicks often in general I think almost three years now but yeah feels crazy. The two years of meals like it was way sooner than that. But Damn Yeah you put out good. Thank you all really played you bob and where can you let everyone know to check out your podcast and everything you're doing right now? It's here for you Bob Segments here for you is on you know it's free You can subscribe on Apple podcasts. And it's really easy to do. It's right on your phone. It's crazy and then it'll be it's everywhere else too. It's where all podcasts are doing. Three Week Monday Wednesday Friday a for two weeks and then I'll go to money Thursday until the end of time and we don't want it now so that's the same as our schedule so everyone listening. You know you can listen to the office on Mondays and Thursdays at nine. Make sure to listen to Bob. Sabatier for you on the same day is backed back. Then I think you guys I they. They've issue because you guys and then they need more content or over to the The weird it's not like I'm giving out dad advice you know it's undisputed me and that's what you guys do. We usually have that ability and not be obnoxious. I'd like that people can call you so if anybody a all our listeners. If you WANNA talk to Bob. There's a phone number you can call and you could be on his show having a nice conversation with him and I'll call them. Sometimes people have to wait around but right now it's perfect 'cause they are. Yeah so what else you have to do. Besides call Bob guys and get a good laugh. Clean a toilet. That's about it anybody any my listeners. Do Not Clinton toilets so probably not hours. Either to be. Honest will thank you guys. Thank thank you Bob. The take care of everything. I'll see you next time I see it. It's GonNa be impersonal definitely. So that'll be really really fun. All right thanks Dave. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks all right. That wraps up. Today's episode of chicks in the office. We thank you guys for listening. We hope that we keep entertaining you during these hard times once again. 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107: KOBE THINKS SHAQ'S WEIGHT HELD HIM BACK, SPORTSNET HOST CUTS, CAM WARD RETIRES A "JERK"

"The steve worn project. Hey everybody welcome to the project. It's our daily audio blast of sports and whatever were so pumped that you went ahead and clicked that play button today every day and thanks for sharing and liking the show as well and <hes>. My name is steve worn longtime t._s._n. Radio host mile colleague. Jim rome the same and today from hawaii how you doing jimmy. I'm very good steve. Yes i'm just came back from our us. I'm great. Thank you for listening right so steve spent today on the ian. We did the snorkeling thing. I told they'll do that. Did the bodies the boogie board thing yesterday you know the blue bar is like a surfboard at like a little surfer would know riders little wide thing you just jump on it and you try and catch a wave so me and my my two boys are going to do it or think my daughter i i forget whose who went first so we started just angle towards the water steve we don't walk straight across crossed the front of the beach and then down into the water and we sort of forty five it out to the beach and <hes> we get in there and it's dangerously okay to me and as i'm walking with this stupid board under by hand i'm thinking of if someone came back after buoy boarding and ripped their shoulders apart or something and the guy was fifty seven years old. I probably say what what businesses a fifty seven year old. I have doing of going to the ocean in in these heavy serves and do this all the time. It's just stupid. I'm walking out with the board. I'm watching guys got up so mauled. I'm stepping on iraq's steve all over the place that that seemed right right under where the waves break and i'm walking a little further and and a destroyed absolutely destroyed every time i try gets that's the way and serve exhausted pound it. You know i didn't hit my face. In iraq came close a few times. I finally pile out are there will walk straight out onto the beach turnaround. Watch other people do it and look at the to sign steve that are up riptides. Don't go in you can drown so any age shouldn't be there. That's right that's right. The people you are or just local guys and <hes> so there was that one and if the waves break really costa shore. That's really dangerous right seats because you're you're you can't walk anywhere now and walk anywhere so that's right so i just took my life in my hand and then i came home steve <hes> to make a little lunch lunch for everyone and when i cook bacon steve i grill it like i put on one of those broiler pans okay so instead of because you've got to cook like twenty strips of bacon. You've got to cook bacon because you're feeding so many people so i just laid all on the on the bra and i- broil it okay but the broiler on you know the broiler. It's my dorm norm. Young man you know the brother there were so i put it in this great idea area and then i reach into pull it out steve and and place my thumb okay. No you know if you touch that pan steve if you touch that pants it's going to burn you okay. It'll it'll burn off your thumb. If you touch that pant you linked your thumb bacon grease. No no i didn't do that steve. I reached out to grab the pen steve and my both thumbs hooked onto the broiler element yeah i had. I didn't have full oven mitts. I just i just have these little little little little square pads and then both thumb tom steve both of them hit the glowing hot broiler element to end my day in your defense. Everybody uses those as their oven mitts. Everybody everybody literally everybody. I can't find the mets. The ones that safely will keep my my thumbs in check. Oh there's little square guys it. Protect the counter top with. There's a good enough. We'll go with those terrible idea press. You put a little hot cup of coffee on a daily. You know like a little thick. It's a magical time. If you're a bacon eater isn't it because there's so many people now telling you that bacon is good like this whole kito thing. That's happening in the world. This kito diet bacon is a big part of that like in people are like you know not only eating bacon but they're saving the grizzly or your mom did the drain the grease owed into a cop and then it just turn into this congealed beige mass that you thought that's the most disgusting thing ever while people are using that to cook with slap. A little bacon can greece in there and give everything a nice bacon flavour according to kito it's pretty healthy lart when people used to cook with lard in the fifties or whatever it was <hes> so those those are these bad injuries that gets you know sort of weird outside injuries but one time steve. Wouldn't we had two we. We had to hire a nanny thousands working. I was doing the show and we interviewed this nanny. She was like mrs doubtfire. Okay the first nanny that that we heart and like really that's right. She was british and loved the kids and all this stuff and we said well. Let's let's hire her. You know so we hired her and she was in the kitchen when i arrived home after the show one day and she said you know sit down. I'm gonna make beautiful nausea lovely breakfast. You know the kids find all this. I'm sitting on my like king you know waiting and she whips down this play the bacon and eggs in a in a hot cup of tea steve super nice beauty and i said this is fantastic. You know and <hes> picked up my cup of tea. Stephen took a big surp- slur took a big slurp but it wasn't t- steve it was hot bacon grease. She had dumped into the cup out of the pan. You don't do that so so you think of that one stephen boy that's some it's delicious and everything it just skuld you forever over by the way how your hands are you like. Do you have to go to the hospital or anything. Now i wanna step away from the podcast and gonna get that taken care of. I'm like i'm like thirsty. Nothing bothers me second hole. One of those you know an amazing number of things. I find bother you. We're just off off the air and we're just firing up. There and i was kinda reading something and i went and i just mumbled while i was reading it and you just went. That's like one of your peeves isn't it. You just absolutely hate that it totally one of my peeves totally totally one of my piece when you phone someone and you say listen do you have do you have what's. What's your reservations. Look like for this weekend. If can i come down there and book a room at the hotel and the girls will let me just check for you. Go thanks a lot and then she doesn't put you on hold and she's going like this reservation for saturday we can. Hey don't need to hear you read aloud. Don't need that saturday. When it comes from two o'clock. Click knoll don't work. Let's even get a minutes. Just abs- apps just shut up so a few things do then bug you don't they thar that gets right under my skin and dried rather burn my thumb on a broiler elements than it would listen to someone reading out loud to themselves in my defense. I don't do it anywhere else except for the moments before i started radio show. I figure if i'm going to read it in a few moments in a you know in a live setting scenario. I guess not live anymore but doing a radio show. I'm going to read it here here to make sure i sometimes mumble through it so that i don't trip up later on. That's the method you could do that. In your hands show's brought to you by king for it. All and show show is presented by rb computing jim kaye ford and all insurance ontario and this it is episode one zero seven and get to the rb computing web poll right out of the gate because this is an interesting thing in sl. Yes i and it goes to what the right of the fan is when they buy season tickets or they buy tickets to a game <hes>. What is their expectation tation level. What can they expect to receive in return for their money and the whole thing with andrew lock kind of a sideline thing sl today. Thanks for pointing. This went out by the way andrew. Luck retires basically on the eve of the season you know we're we're about a week away from the start of it and he unexpectedly retires here's so the majority of all fans who bought their season tickets and some who may be bought for you know opening week or whatever <hes> what about the concept except of and colts fans are doing this some of them anyway. They're asking for refunds at the ticket office. Do they have a right to refund is the question and that's our web poll today brought to you by rb computing simple yes or no answer. What say you james yeah. I read that article so so a bunch of it's on the legal side of whether the colts if they sued the colts who would win in court and the guts of it is the colts would on every issue cultures went on every issue the big one the big one that seems when you read the law the big one is if you who have misled the ticket holder if you've misled the ticket buyer intentionally than they would be entitled to this refund right and by that would have to be even though andrew luck quit it would half to be agile lock when they started announcing that he was you know going to start this year and he'd be there number one guy where you know you buy tickets because evangelist doc which they did which they did. They might be entitled to it. If andrew luck knew it was an entire ploy that he was never gonna play k okay if they could if they could figure that out the guy said well no. We're just doing this so we can sell tickets but we're gonna play so that would be the closest thing that do it have a right to do it but it's nowhere near that andrew luck yeah but if you throw up the legal battle <hes> through your lawyers out in front of a fan who's looking you know 'cause little timmy and ah you know <hes> got a ticket and saved his <hes> his newspaper route allowance <hes> and saved up for opening day tickets and his favourite andrew luck unexpectedly italy retires and he would like his he would like to get his money back. I don't know if you wanna throw a bunch of lawyers in front of that so let's examine it from the p._r. Standpoint from the the standpoint standpoint of you know good business practice. <hes> from the standpoint of the customer is always right so let's leave the legalities out of it. We've established that legally the coulter in good tape but what about from a p._r. Standpoint might you for those who want their money back would you. Maybe say okay but that's <hes>. If that's how you feel it's unfortunate tonight. Andrew luck fan so here's your money back yeah i. That's my gut reaction to it as well. She okay your money back. Okay lanna fight fight over this thing we don't want to do that. It doesn't sound like it's thousands of fans that want their money back. You know one of the more interesting takes was a guy who who tried to sue the team because he went to watch his favourite players and the coach sat them that night so no one's never sued a team because of injury right that they they even on the field or away from the field that no one's ever come forward and said okay. I want my money back because the guy got injured or got injured away from the game or something like that but some have tried to sue teams when they go to watch connor mcdavid play which they would never make him a healthy scratch but but say they do <hes> that they don't wanna play one arrest them arrest that player those people people in it never it never held water any of that stuff but <hes> i. I do what you wanna do sure cheryl. Give me your money back because it's not no. I don't know how many people again are want to do it. Go ahead so let's put perspective on this in that you know the i don't know the colts are are in fact lining up their lawyers to say no way. We're not doing this in fact. I'd be shocked if they did because clearly they buy into the court of public opinion -pinion n._p._r. And all that because you have a scenario where okay when andrew luck unexpectedly retired. They decided you know what we're going to be good about this. This year old twenty four million in bonuses that legally we could fire are lawyers and six them on you and get that money back but you know what because you're a good guy because you laid out for the colts franchise you go ahead and keep that money so if this is an organization willing to turn the page on twenty four million that legally they might be owed. I have no problem thinking that if there's enough of these fans that are disgruntled at they got kinda screwed over on the tickets thing with you know not getting to see andrew luck. I i feel like the colts would probably say yeah okay fine. Last you want great hope you come back later because i know you will yeah you know the the other thing was the the fans were booing. Apparently because of the way it was leaked after you know that there was some guy who you floated this story and then ended up on social media while at this preseason game and they're all upset that well it was. It was actually not just floated. It was actually reported by adam schefter who would be in your top three among n._f._l. Insiders he's actually talked about it. He's got a family a function at a barbecue and somebody texted and then that started the ball rolling and so he eventually got to the bottom of it and put it out there. He had no idea that the game was going on. He he was like you say at a family function and so that's kind of how it went it wasn't floated out as a rumor. He basically reported that this is happening yeah so there's no way there's no good way to to announce a retirement when it comes to be a fan. You know you're you're pissed. <hes> i look at it this way steve nor never kicked up a fuss guy retires because of injury or can't come back and i i really think this guy <hes> you know was like a lot of people when they inquire a lot of the press inquires about a guy who's been off because of injury when they interview the coach or whoever and say when when can we expect them back and most times the coaches will say well. It's a it's a day to day deal. It's a wait-and-see process where we're not sure we can't tell you it's up to the doctors. We gotta. We gotta keep doing that. <hes> i looked at the andrew. Luck thing the same way but just over a longer process so you know as and and you're gonna play. He's probably gonna them say i. I'm not sure you know. I'm not sure the guy you see the injuries. The guys had their. You know tough tough injuries that he's had so. I look at it like that. I'm not sure sure whether announced it three weeks before four weeks before what does that make to the fan. I don't think much i don't think much i think they're all going to renew <hes>. I understand where fans would feel entitled because it's such a different thing usually when something like this happens it's due to injury exclusively and this was played played a part in it like you talked about. He's had a history of tough injuries that he's rallied through and <hes> but it was more this one had more of a feel of he opted did out versus someone who is for the season with a broken leg that he got in preseason well as a fan. You're not really entitled to refunds after that like every fan knows that it was just that this one and seemed to carry with it a personal decision like he could have. Maybe play this year but decided not to. That's where fans rule into that mode of like hey hey hey has not right but seventy nine percent of our voters say no fans should not be entitled to refunds and <hes> so they're kind of on the same bandwagon that you are a couple of couple of <hes> bits of responses carson writes jeez. That's a bit of an insult to the rest of the team team. You're supposedly a fan of good point and ottawa b._t. Rights i view it as though you bought concert tickets to see your favorite red band then last minute they decide they can't play in a cover band will be in their place. I believe they absolutely deserve a refund yet. It's funny. He brings that that up because they use that as an example. If you want to you you bought your ticket based on. Justin timberlake was gonna perform. He doesn't and they put it in a b. Cluber yes you. You get your money back right so especially. If it's a decision if it's a a and even if a even if they broke their leg backstage back stage before they are about to go on. I'm pretty sure fans would still get a refund with yacht if he had to cancel because a sore throat and all that shit about differences because that ticket to a concert this is not me make it up. I read the ticket to a concert. Specifically says who you're going to see the ticket to the football. Game doesn't say the players that you're going to see it. Just says the teams right. You're going to see pittsburgh versus. This is miami. That's all it says so. That's that's why that's there. They would lose in the n._f._l. They tried to sue the league or whatever so you know i can't think of how many times can you think of out there reason why someone didn't renew their season tickets you know where i remember when we did the show and that people email when the teams really shitty and they can't believe the stupid trade trade they made or how trades didn't work out there. All you know what i'm not renewing next year because of this right you hear that from time to time here in ottawa ottawa yeah sure you sure you're doing you heard a lot in edmonton for years but i can't think of other outside reasons why why people haven't renewed their tickets ever. You know like if you don't do this then. I'm not going to renew my tickets. Well the ultimatum of of a fan presenting that to a team at ain't workin okay it doesn't that doesn't you know team. Teams don't base most of their decisions on what the fans thing. They do some of it some of it they do. I've seen that before in fact. I think it was the fans were screaming about john muckler at one time and then ultimately leaving i think they got rid of them with the fans freaking out about in ottawa so most n._f._l. Teams i would say though you know they're in good shape. You know the n._f._l. His king and so many. I don't know whether coulter out with their season ticket numbers but you know they could probably go about this and say you know what a <hes> hey. Everybody wants the money back. Come and get it. 'cause i got a pile of people that are waiting for season tickets right now that you look at the chicago bears green bay packers you're like in this. We're waiting lists. If you want season tickets rob who <hes> who lives here in ottawa he he showed me he's like. I don't know six thousand something something on the waiting list to get bear season tickets quarries yeah. It's not so they don't have to worry about like teams like the ottawa senators meanwhile every pretty much every season ticket ticket holder counts and so that's why a team like that is a good deal more sensitive to the optics of matters compared to san n._f._l. Team when remind the web pool is brought to you by rb computing. 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They paid well over five billion dollars for a lot of people said at the time i don't know if you can make that work and i wonder if we're not seeing the residual of that where you see both nick kip rios and doug maclean today as we broadcast cast this on a wednesday announced on twitter that they would not be back at sports net for the coming season kind of interesting stuff were darren malarde. Who was the host of that panel. He was let go within the last couple of years so some <hes> some big overhaul happening at sports net right now where was mccowan when he was with the same family yeah on on radio of course at that <hes> that being with rogers you know if if it's a cost cutter it must be the ratings can't can't be very good or not to not to where they want them. As you know state you know you were you work in that business you can do if the ratings are up or they reached their achieved thing. Most of those things have a contract of a bonus if the ratings get to a certain level and i know this personally in radio if if the ratings are good you can do anything you want. You know you're going to get more money. You're gonna you could you could say and do anything you you want virtually and if the rates go down you're done. You're yesterday's news. That's just that's just part of the deal so i gotta think it's it's purely a ratings thing yeah i mean it could be. It could also be a sales thing because something's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it so your ratings could be. I'm not sure where the ratings are at honestly one way or the other but if you don't parlay that into sales well then too bad so sad because the ratings that's what allows you to charge more for your advertising with the cost of this t._v. package that they bought to have n._h._l. Rights they would have to be charging up the wazoo to make that package work and so the the average advertisers going okay well. Yeah show me where your ratings are at because i need that jive with what you're charging me yeah. That's where things break down and that's where maybe advertisers balk or maybe broadcasters say. We need to have a cheaper on air staff to make this thing balanced. It's one thing to go out and you know win this this. You know basically a bidding hitting war for the n._h._l. Writes in wrestlemania from t._s._n. And bell media but eventually the chartered accountants will start wandering the halls going he. Hey this isn't working right need to do something and but my guess would be. That's what's happening here but as you said <hes> when we were talking about this just before we started taping if you've got a company spent five billion even between the two of them nick kibria's and doug maclean clean even if we go hi. Let's say those guys are chewing up. A million bucks a year that they're each making five hundred grand which i doubt that would seem like a lot of money but let's say they. You're so that's twelve million bucks over the twelve years okay but like you said they paid five billion so twelve meals at drop in the bucket yet. Yeah i think so i need to say i need to tell folks speaking of advertising that <hes> we have some great ones really great ones powered by all insurance ontario. Don't waste time shopping around for insurance on your own just extol insurance ontario there at six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight. They will hook you up with the best insurance rates every time they've got your back visit. All ends dot sierra techs six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight all insurance ontario your modern boutique broker. You need a new car while ford employee pricing is back for a limited time jim k. ford you pay what ford employees pay on select new vehicles. Now's the time with the best selection to get the ford you've had your eye on ford employee pricing and the new ad home test drive now on jim kaye ford you vill drive in orleans or jim kaye ford dot com and if you're you're about to buy or sell your home. You're going to need some help. So i highly recommend the glenn walton real estate team. Glenn is going to help you find your dream home or help. You sell your current one fast for the most money money if you have questions about affordability credit legal matters or income trust glenn his team to find you what you need fast contact glendale glen walton dot com some interesting that cam ward has decided that he is going to call it a career at the age of thirty five. He signed on for one day. I want my moneyline her prick exactly no he signed a one year deal with carolina hurricanes so i don't imagine there's a bunch of canes pains. Fans are going to say. I demand play this season. I paid my good money for his one day <hes> but he signed one day so that he could retire a member member of the hurricanes and of course that's team that he won a stanley cup with way back in two thousand and six they beat your edmonton oilers that year and hasn't been a rough friday for the oilers since interesting head space right. You're hoisting the cup. You're the playoff m._v._p. <unk> winner. You're probably thinking you know. This is going to be a great career. I'll probably think you need to win. Another stanley cup and <hes> nope never really <hes> came knocking again they'd one good run where they went to the conference final but that would be it just as it was theo fleury and his first year in the league woman the calgary flames in eighty nine and would never win another one but pretty good goalie and he calls it a day and cam ward yeah. You know i don't mind. I like that idea of signing the one day contractor whatever and it's probably unnecessary okay. It's probably unnecessary you. Don't you don't need to do that. We just show up at the arena. We know what it's all about okay but i wonder if they actually file it with the league or anything stupid like that like just a nicety. They got sailing system where i didn't like it and people people might be really pissed really pissed because mr hockey gordie howe when he came back to play a game or play a couple of shifts that they dress awesome for so he could set the record for a player in consecutive decades. That's kind of cheating on the record there. You know that that one. I never i never liked so even though argue that his final leg is final real game where he still considered <music> somewhat of an asset to an n._h._l. Club he came at the age of fifty or something like that right nineteen eighty playing for the hartford whalers and i would defy anybody on to jump on youtube and say that gordy howe at age fifty in one of those highlights had n._h._l. Level game at that stage right. I'm sorry right. I mean he's a legend he is. You know he's everything. People says he is <hes> but i felt like that was just a a token spot at the end they always he's played into his fifties. What a great story. Well yeah but watch him as he is. He belong in the n._h._l. At age fifty right now and my answer watching some of the highlights is new yeah here. Here's how i gauge the record steve or hall of fame induction or all that stuff okay what you don't want when your name comes up attached to that record is here's a plaque of gordie howe and he was the first player ever to play in v five five decades. What you don't want is someone reading that go yeah yeah yeah but the but the last decade was an exhibition daily played thirty seconds on the is off the you don't want that you don't want that. You don't wanna be tagged with that. You know what i mean. He's got he's got enough great records. He doesn't need another record yeah. It's sort of like this guy scored more points in one season than anybody else and they go walk with crazy what oh yeah but there was a lockout. You know the only played two months jeff asterix there so you don't you don't want you don't want. I don't want that record. Steve am am. I take it if i'm john scott or something right like john. Scott got to play the n._h._l. All star game as an enforcer who had very very limited hockey skills else he'd be one of those guys like i watched chris neal skate around and a warm up. He doesn't look at a place to me. I watched john scott in warm up before an n._h._l. Game and i said i said that's not a very good hockey player right there. That does not look like n._h._l. Caliber just watching him mucking around with a park doing the skate around shooting nepad that does not look n._h._l. Player to me so if you're some guy like that will of course you're gonna take on that all star invitation and run lineup because you don't have much else gordie howe and his legacy with the number of records that he does hold doesn't need to prove anything to anyone as far as his longevity <hes> went back in the day the absolute best thing i've ever heard about guys who would not qualify to being a game but otherwise are because of outside reasons or something like that in there you gotta check it out on youtube in high school game that one of the and i'm sure i know you've seen this because it's you just can't believe it actually happened that on a high school team. There was an autistic kid. Who was there ballboy a high school basketball team and he was kind of their trainer and waterboy on this team and people loved them. It was an unbelievable kid engaging and <hes> you know he was he was relatively high functioning sixty anyway they they let them dress for a game and they put them on and the crowd went crazy. You know i was crying. I was crying when i saw the guy goes on steve. I don't to make six or seven three-pointers and and maybe the game winning bucket i it was just it was unbelievable unbelievable. I have you ever seen it. Oh yeah yeah it's <hes> i saw some of the news accounts of it like they interviewed the kid and <hes> he's very high functioning for sure but he's still got that kind of <hes> monotone sound boat him right that that a lot of autistic eight people tend to have <hes> inflection doesn't make a whole lot of sense to them in some cases but he was like yeah. I was hotter than a pistol that way said that because like awesome god oh my god yup <hes> and and you know what even more than the story itself just to to see the joy that others got from it at a time when you know you're so self centered when you're in high school and you're so india stuff and you you know there's some probably some bullies that you know probably wouldn't be down with that. The way that that student body universally embraced this moment the way they were all going crazy. That's that's that's a at least half of why that video is so special in terms of guys that <hes> like the john scott story. I think of the movie rudy is well like like that was a tale of a guy that you know they just gave them a shot in the last game kinda thing right as i can you make a whole movie guy gets one play ima- matt they managed to do it. Hollywood's great that way but <hes> end of the day was like okay. I was a he made a tackle and you got to play one and but yet still one my favorite movies yeah. Let's absolutely absolutely. I was like five two or something. No he's not gonna go play for notre dame or whatever big ten school was gonna play play for michigan not going to happen anyway. Great movie loved in this life you you don't have to prove nothin offended and nobody but yourself and if you ain't learned that by now it ain't going to never happen. Wow wow that's a hell of a quote you remember is quotes deliver his second remember try who said what aw try so. I can remember steve from try. Try your best. Try your best okay so so you're not like a caddyshack guy up. All there's a lot of guys caddyshack and slap shot and they know the entire movie. I'll not even close no not even close bigheaded allama. You don't know the truth. You don't know the truth is is that your jack nicholson from few good men yeah. It's not what he says. You don't know that you don't know the truth. Fellas is no no you. You can't handle the truth. Oh oh okay. I thought it was okay. No don't do you lying right. You can't handle the truth all right listen. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to the likes of you well. You went sort of a trojan at the end but the first was bang on dammit. I don't have the time that was good time. I'd love to be able to do a jack nicholson coolest guy ever well. I was looking at the other day jack nicholson and do it. You know what you mean good. Jimmy was that pretty good. That was pretty good. You know what you need. He was at lunch with shirley maclaine and <hes> the one where the daughter died of cancer. Oh yeah that was he lived terms of terms of endearment yeah and he's trying to put the moves on shirley maclaine and and she's just giving him the heisman the whole movie and then he gets her takes her for lunch. She finally agrees to go for lunch and she's all uptight and on wild and he goes. You know what you need. You need a lot of drinks to kill that bug. You've got up your ass rice. That might be your best impression. Ever steve put mcdonnell up on on twitter. Okay it's killing. It's killing steve. It's not it's not a some guy wrote boy. When i close my eyes they just wanna khloe uh-huh put so many top picture yourself on twitter this week that people just want to close their eyes regardless of what you're doing. I'm getting mauled. I'm getting absolutely maltin maltin. It and i also don't know how to handle. We had some some something from yesterday where you made some ten foot pole joke about your daughter. I was like what hey this this. How can you what kinda hit my mute button here. Stevie steve hang on clearly a bigger mute button. No no it's kind of a daughter sydney in eireann to having a savage contest. I really savage really you're really savage against against people you know right at she ever come up so so you come up with the most vicious chirp yeah no this isn't. This isn't things like hey steve. Hi steve good to see again. Betcha love getting that senior citizen discount right which is a little hall. You got me there for a little shot the guy but you know my my daughter's so having this this guy i said look at it's all you know gloves her off. If you want to do this because i love this shit i love this and but she's pretty she's pretty good data and they were they. Were talking about <hes>. You know it's it's cocaine. You and i think we're talking about is cocaine a performance enhancing drug <hes> mhm. I said well. I'll tell you what what does cocaine is. It increases your speed you know because their speed speed in it and my daughter goes yeah or makes you neglect your children for ten years ago my god oh no oh you oh boy. Oh right that that that's a haymaker. Jungles doubt juggles down. Oh yeah oh yeah so. She's winning there. She's like that's just lickety-split okay so now your video makes a little more sense after i heard that light that was savage light did to her mood. There's more coming in or your kids for ten years. Fuck tuck your marriage holy cow yeah right to that all right. When we come back on the show that's that he's hardcore. <hes> when we come back we're gonna talk a little bit about <hes> kobe bryant's and he's been a bit nasty shaquille o'neal's directions sir. We're going to hear some really interesting. Direct commentary from kobe bryant lincoln employee pricing is back. Jim lincoln where you pay with. Lincoln employees pay on select new lincoln vehicles. Now is the time to get the lincoln. You've had your eye on lincoln employee pricing and the new ad home test drive all now at jim k. lincoln. You'll drive in orleans or jim. Okay lincoln dot com. The year was eighty five nineteen eighty five michael jordan was your rookie of the year coca cola introduced new coke and and the first dot com domain name was registered. Well you doing in nineteen. Eighty five nine hundred eighty five steve very significant in my life. I was on my way as a twenty three year old to edmonton for my job with wolves yeah cool ooh yeah and there wasn't much else going on out there. Oh yeah right oilers stanley cups now lot of stanley causes. Nanny stanley company and stanley headed aw here in ottawa sends. Were still seven years away. I was just <hes> first year. Last year of high school and all insurance ontario first opens its open doors a lot's changed since nineteen eighty five but great services not visit all ins dossier you can text them at six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight. How convenient is that just text them. I love that it's all insurance ontario your modern boutique broker so kobe the bryant in the news today. I guess he's at some kind of a thing where he was the guest of honor. She's wearing like a might have been talks. It's this one on one he's being interviewed by some guy and all of a sudden he's basically asked to wait shaquille o'neal and maybe his work ethic and let's play back with kobe kobe. He had to say who would shack. If you had your work ethic be be the greatest of all time if shack had your it'd be degradable audible time by four. He'd be the first to tell you that for sure. I mean this guy was a force. I have never seen it was crazy a guy that size generally guys at that size or a little timid and they don't want to be tall. They don't wanna be big. Man man. This dude was he did not care. He was mean. He was nasty competitive. He was vindictive. I mean he was yeah. I wish he would have twelve rings. I just see i. I don't know why you would ever do that. You know i don't know why ah if if if if if if if you know i could have one well thanks tips. Thanks a lot you know. We would have had a better better coach steve if we would if if if the rest of the team scored more goals we would've won more games would have you. That's how i look at that thing. That's how i look at. That thing. I think shock was pretty dedicated guy. You know i don't even know how a guy that big of that big could could even work out you you know more than more than twenty minutes a day before he would collapse but but can we agree though that he let himself go like by by the by the midway point of his career. Shaquille o'neal was too fat yeah but a single guys by n._b._a. A standard that's n._b._a. Standards like as compared to a guy on the street no no of course not but you're making insane money in the greatest basketball league in the world. You're blessed with all this talent and they kobe bryant is sitting there going well. He had a fabulous hall of fame career butts. I mean just look at the guy yeah i well. I don't know steve. I think that'd be a lotta shit. Go right man has got to be a lot of stuff. Go right to for a team team to win a championship and for this guy to lay it out to a single cause and and that being shaq was out of shape. I just think he's retarded. I couldn't i couldn't use the our word. Don't use the our hate the arwood mckay anyway but i understand what you're saying for sure. I think think that you know whether you agree with that. Taker not shut up. You don't bother articulating it like i think of the past radio shows i've done some some people have liked and some people i could take or leave but i'd never jumped on anywhere publicly and and just bury them. Let's say you know my co host. Were better. We might have made ratings a few more times over the years <hes> that's not in me the gift of a special kind of arrogance to jump in front of them public audience like that and say things like that. There's no doubt about it. Steve so when you say certain kind of arrogance you know someone told me one the gossiping about someone in this case publicly gossiping is just another way of bragging ragging about yourself right right so it all it's saying is i'm better. That's what i take away from that just like you said you know just reeks reeks of arrogance in narcissism and all that stuff and yes some of that makes a great player but but there's a lot of great players in in a lot of sports who don't ever ever or ever call out a guy you know fact the coolest guys in the world go. You know it was a team thing we. There's no one to blame here. We can look a million different directions. We want but we you know we'd never ever able. We never point fingers at guys so a colin. That's that's bullying and it's hard you know. It's you know when you talk about gossip. That's generally a a negative thing and <hes> people do it because something wrong in their lives they feel shitty or whatever and by gossiping which is usually a negative give up the outcome of that. Is you know by comparison. Things are going pretty well with even though i'm not very happy and it's the same with bullying it's why bullies bullied because things going crap in their lives and empowers them and make them feel better to make other people feel like crap yeah. Here's the other risk steve. Here's that you're taking glasshouses man. I think there was a pretty pretty juicy story back in the day. That kobe cheated on his wife right. You're pretty sure there was a big headline their girlfriend or wife or something like that so now you come and say this about shack. That may be the wrong guy. I steve who's pretty pretty. Well adjusted right now to to having some good quotes shaq's been on t._v. For a long time he's very funny is got lots to say. He's he's witty. He's intelligent and wait. I'm really really anxious and excited to hear what shack is going to say back in this guy because he just might come on. You know what kobe maybe if you you know. Maybe a kept it in your hog when we're on road trips. You know we could have won a few more games. Kept it in your hog but i kept you're talking. I got i got what you're trying to sue. If it were only just cheated if it were only just cheating that would be that would be one thing but there were allegations that went away in regards to his cheating and we'll leave it at that right right okay. I know what you're talking to. Some sort of nefarious shit right so you better be careful kobe. You better be damn careful because some of this stuff is going to come back and bite in the asman yup and and on the topic of asses. I know that this guy is gonna come back at him because this this is not the first sort of volley it was about five years ago. I think where shaquille o'neal's at a nightclub and did some impromptu rap and the chorus was hey kobe. Tell me how my ass tastes kobe. How my ass tastes everybody kobe. You couldn't do it out being you can't do it. You can't do it out. Everybody kobe. Tell me how my ass tastes few would have given it a little more stevie on the radio show. You know we would add by better ratings than i could've got my job really jim okay. Here's a list of one hundred fucking thinks okay here. That's if you did you know what i mean. You just don't do it right right so i think everyone gets point. We'll call it a day there my friend we usually hit them at the our mark year or so and we say that actually show good to go day. <hes> what's it's wednesday when we we leave saturday night some some some red eye action back to edmonton so we'll get wednesday thursday friday saturday former days. That's about the extent steve of what i know on this holiday of while i'm doing from one hour to the next. That's all right pretty loose well again. Go have an adventure all right down to the pool again. Turn a bunch of head steve all the women as you do. I'd say that's my what what time is it and she goes. It's quarter after don't be a douchebag <hes> anyway steve boy. You have a good day good night ever to we'll see ya.

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Preds primed for another run?

Hockey Today

25:01 min | 3 years ago

Preds primed for another run?

"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don la- Greco and welcome to the Friday edition of game is conduct. I am Don McGregor lots to go over tons of games. We'll get to your tweets in just a little bit. I called the game in Madison Square Garden between the Rangers and the predators, and I gotta tell you, Nashville looks as good as they've ever been just so loaded with talent and that Arvidsson Johannesen enforce Berg line or as good as it gets really. I mean, there's a bunch of lines that I think are close, but they may be the best and they they, they can log a ton of ice time. They can win faceoffs and we're starting to see Forsberg really emerge into, I think, superstar. He had already shot the beat lung quiz for the first goal in the second period that was Joe Sacic like, so that team looks like every bit as good as they were last year when they won the presidents trophy. It's a shame that they're probably destined to take on Winnipeg in the second round. Again, I was talking to Pete Weber their play by play voice. He said, hey, that's just the way it goes Pittsburgh out of the play Washington second round. And I said, well. You know what that doesn't mean? I have to like it. That's a conference. Final match up, not a second round matchup, but listen, we got a long way to go before we get there, but natural look really good game to see the ranger system for the first time live in and you could see that they're aggressive, but they're also showing a lot of support for each other. I thought there was a lot more structure. I think things looked a little crisper now they lost the game, but I think they have to be pretty happy with the effort. David Quinn wasn't necessarily happy after the game said they need to play a lot better. I suspect that coaches are always going to lean more towards that, not wanting their players to be complacent with losing. But when you're going up against a really good team, you fall behind you fight back, you tie the game right away on a great feed by will, too fast for the tying goal and Bush. Never got a goal late with the goaltender pulled the draw them within one after the empty netter by citizens. But last year I called a lot of games for the Rangers where it was just jecklin high. They couldn't get out of their own end. A lot of turnovers. You can see them. Quaid is legit. Defenseman Smith looks like a completely turned around player after being sent down last year. That's a nice pairing Brady shea starting to grow into his own. So we'll take a look at this ranger team. They're competitive. They got a couple of very winnable games over the weekend in buffalo in Carolina. So we'll see if they can get four points here and get off to a good start. But I, I really liked what I saw from both teams in the three, two victory for Nashville. Congratulations to honors Lee. We didn't touch on it very much yesterday, but he's the captain of the New York Islanders, and they had a nice win in Carolina Hurricanes talking to some people around Madison Square Garden last night, some scouts in different people to cover the sport about Carolina about how they really believe they're improved. They lost Hannifin during the off season, they believe Dougie. Hamilton can turn it around after his career in Boston in Calgary, and finally find himself Mirage. Maybe he can be the goaltender certainly would be better than darling last year in the combination between ward darling last year. No Skinner obviously, but you still have some nice players there. I'll be calling the game on Sunday firsthand. They had over eighteen thousand people in the building last night for opening day. We'll see if that's the case on Sunday. When the Rangers are there, is there going to be ten thousand and eight thousand of them ranger fans will see, but we'll see would Brodmann Brodmann damore can do. They threw a ton of shots at Greis forty six shots on goal for the game, and that was really the difference. But you know, give the islanders credit. They hung in there and they took advantage of the opportunities that they saw. So this is kind of reminiscent now of Carolina, not getting the great goaltending giving up two goals on ten shots. Newly-acquired Val FILA gets a goal stole ties zip, and then Bailey wins it. And over time for the islanders Carolina gets appoint the Anders get too important for the islanders to get off to a good start after the j. t. loss and Bailey gets to goal lease the captain Greis look very good and the islanders get off on the right foot and you knew Boston was gonna, bounce back the combination. Of they're not as bad as a seven, nothing loss. And also they're taking on the Buffalo Sabres that's still a work in progress there. And buffalo gets the win four to nothing over the Buffalo Sabres I'll be in buffalo on Saturday, some looking forward to that, so they know chara the ageless one gets a goal Marsh, and I, it gets the assist with McEvoy as all three of those players get their first points. Marshon ended up batting two more assists in the game. He's got four points. Now on the year pasternack lights, the lamp the Nata, who I could have a real chance of being a a big time player this year for Boston also gets his first goal of the season how the Washington Capitals, thirteen goals in the first two games of the season and their one own one. And the reason for that is because they lost in overtime to the Pittsburgh Penguins seven to six, just an absolutely wild affair. What I took from this game is, you know, obviously the back and forth of it, but it's six, four Pittsburgh looks like they're well on their way to get. Deregulation victory after you have Guinea Malcolm goal his first of the season, but then we get late in the third period. TJ yo see, get Joshi gets his first second goal of the season with less than a seven minutes to play. And then he scores twenty one seconds later, the tie the game at six. So he's got three goals now to start the season. So they are loaded offensively for sure, but it would be Tang who's just been, you know, unreal. He ends up having a two goals on the night, including the game winner. Just a slew appoints now when he's healthy, obviously, we're talking about one of the most dynamic, offensive defencemen in the league finishes with three points. He was a plus three on the night, Sola Tangiers being the hero for Pittsburgh and what is the best rivalry right now in the National Hockey League and just a wild star to the capital season, a seven, six overtime loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins tons of shots on goal. Not one crazy stuff, a battle of two rebuilding teams, Ottawa, and the Chicago black. Hawks and it looked like Ottawa might actually come out of this thing with a chance to at least get a win and they get to overtime, and it would be the game. Winning goal would come in OT by a by Kane, just a great individual effort. They had the review the see if it had gone off over the crossbar into the net, but Patrick Kane from tapes in overtime turns out to be the the game winner. Ottawa took the lead into the third period, but Seabrook scores of the twelve eighteen Mark to give the Chicago, the victory on either of these two teams are playoff teams, but which interesting about Ottawa is there clearly in rebuild mode, right? So anything they can get, they're gonna take it home opener. They steal a point Chicago in that rebuilding mode. But you know what Kane, Taves Seabrook, Keith. They've got a lot of good young players. I mean, a lot of good players. They threw a ton of shots on goal. Forty three shots on goal in the game, Chicago out, shoots out of a forty. Three to twenty five Crawford? Okay, not great in this one and obviously Cam ward now getting a chance to play with the Chicago Blackhawks. I should say Cam ward was the starting goaltender for Chicago as he gave up three goals in the game and ends up picking up the win kind of odd. The see Cam ward in a uniform other than the Carolina Hurricanes in Anderson I thought was great after bowed down your last year and a making thirty nine saves is Ottawa gets a point at home Columbus with an overtime victory over the Detroit Red Wings and the game winner for the. For the blue jackets, as it was. N- who all the conversation about him and his contract ends up getting the game winning goal in overtime at the two eleven Mark after a Tuesday tied the game up too late in the second period and also Atkinson with a goal as well as nice win for the blue jackets in Detroit, and I suffered by Detroit as well. But again, another example of just grossly out shooting the opposition as the blue jackets, almost doubled up the Red Wings and shots. Columbus had thirty nine shots to Detroit twenty Winnipeg Jets flexing their muscle in the conversation is the best team in the NHL at a one, nothing lead after two periods of play, and then bang four on four big goals to make a five to one victory. So five goals in the third period in the game and only one for the Saint Louis blues. And that would obviously come very early on as it would be a five. One victory for Winnipeg line gets his first of the year. Lowery gets his first a wheel. Gets his first of the year to make it three, nothing. Connor mated four, nothing tan makes it five, nothing. And then finally, you would see done for O'Reilly in Bosak late to just stave off the possibility of a shutout, but five unanswered goals for Winnipeg four and a third period is they really are showing you just how well rounded they are and how they are and national could be two of the teams to beat along with San Jose, making it three that could win in the Western Conference. Dallas with nice Dave in the three, nothing victory over the Arizona coyotes Dallas that forgotten team in the Western Conference, right? Everybody talking about San Jose. We just talked about Nashville and win a pay, but there's a lot of really good players on this Dallas Stars team Klingberg gets a goal, gets an assist from Ben wind up having to assist in the game, rational off who was so good for them. Last year gets goal as well. So a nice three, nothing victory for the Dallas Stars in this one as they get the shutout from Bishop who made thirty saves EJ Radic talked about it earlier in the week if you're able to get good quality goaltending from Bishop, if he's able to stay healthy is a guy that's got a ton of playoff experience obviously with Tampa. So Dallas can be one of those teams you circle right better goaltending than Saint Louis bowl. Teams are very, very talented, but maybe we're talking about Dallas instead of Saint Louis being the team in the central division that might be able to challenge Nashville and Winnipeg for. To make the playoffs. They're nice statement for Colorado as well. A lot of people assume myself included the Colorado might be one of those teams to take that step back made the playoffs. Last year might struggle this year while you know they spot the Winnipeg. Excuse me, they bought Minnesota a goal on Zach Parisi. But then of course the line that working so well for this avalanche team gets it done Landis Gog ranson and McKinnon. All contribute. McKinnon gets a goal ranted and gets a goal land. Scott gets an assist in the game. So the avalanche starting to show that they are a team with healthy goaltending and Varlamov didn't face a ton of shots. Just Twenty-one, made twenty saves to get the victory four to one keep an eye on Minnesota. Again, we Mnuchin general manager, Bruce Boudreau might be fighting for his job. I think it's important for Minnesota get off to a good start didn't last night as Colorado roles, and this was a little bit of a surprise how Philadelphia beating up on the Vegas Golden, Knights five. Five to two. This thing got away from Vegas real quick. Marsha show gets the goal early in the first period to big a one. Nothing, right. Everything's great. And then it was just all Philadelphia, five unanswered goals. Lindblom who we got a chance to see last year Simmons with his contract. Obviously, trying to make a statement with a couple of goals, Hague, Loudon. And next thing you know, bang, we're barely into the second period. It's five one Belmar gets unassisted goal. Midway through the third period cosmetically to make it five two. So keep an eye on Vegas as well. Will they be able to maintain what they did last year and Philadelphia. Another one those teams that's kinda easy to forget right, Pittsburgh because they won back to back championships two years ago. Obviously, the defending Stanley Cup champions of the Washington Capitals. Many people myself included very high on Columbus. It's easy to forget. The Philadelphia can be a player. They're starting on the Western Conference. They get the huge win against Vegas if they can get the goaltending. And if they can get Simmons to play at the level that he played last night, there's every reason to believe the Philadelphia can be a legitimate contender in metropolitan division. So as I said before, the NHL didn't give him any favors getting start out west, but maybe that could be something that can galvanize this team and they go up and beat up the defending Western Conference champions, the Vegas Golden Knights by the final score of five to two flurry got pulled in this one excuse me. Sube ban comes in tobacco up. Sue ban had not played in a game going back to last April. Hadn't started a game since last March. So listening to that game when I was driving home from the ranger game, they were talking about how they were desperate to try to get consumed some time. Well, he certainly got the time and played well did not allow goal the rest of the way. So remember all the problems they had in golden Vegas last year. Well, Malcolm sue ban did a decent job filling in for flurry after he had gotten pulled. All right. Let's close out the week with your tweets. You can get in touch with me. He always at down the Greco hashtag game has conduct, and let's start with Courtney our friend and she says, hi, Don loved how the Rangers bounced back last night and didn't roll over and play dead. After the two predators goals, I'd call it a win even though they didn't get two points. So glad to see VC having a monster game. He was the number one star to me. I should add Hank looked at the top form last night and even played the puck. Well, so VC's my number one star besides Hank because Hank was at the other worldly level. Again, last night caveat to what you said Courtney, I didn't like the SU ban goal and we should've mentioned. Now we recap in it that ended up being a backbreaker the to one lead four Nashville. In the third period. Early upon further review, he had a clean lane. It was not deflected. He was not screened. That was a goal he'd like to have back. So you're right. I thought Hank made some bell ringing saves especially early. He stopped Arvidsson on two on one. He had a couple of great saves on Craig Smith. But at one one early in the third period that's save that Hank has to make as the Rangers are transitioning here. The one thing they need to rely upon. Great. Goaltending. I'm not sure that Hank is going to be able to win games giving up goals like that. So I do agree overall. He played a very good game. He probably wants that su- ban goal back and considering lost by goal. And that gave Nashville lead in the third period. That was a tough break for the Rangers Zach says, is there is there players that you were able to see play in person? But you wish you had. Excuse me. I was born in ninety five and never got to see. Gretzky play in person wish I could. Okay. Oh, I've, I always go back to the marine Rashard and my wife being a Canadians fan, me being a hockey a story, and you hear the stories. I read the books. I saw the movie. He is somebody I would have loved to have seen for sure. I never got a chance to see gala floor. I saw him on television when he made his comeback. Obviously, it was a little bit older when he made the comeback with the Rangers in the Nordiques, but didn't get a chance to really understand hockey and see him live in his prime. So certainly the old guys, the Doug Harvey's and you go back to, you know, the real old days of the NHL Gordy house. Obviously somebody that's going to jump to mind. I was fortunate enough to see the Gretzky's the messy as the Lemieux's. So I got to see in the eighties, some of the great hockey players never got to see Bobby Hall would have loved to have seen him play. So I'm a little bit older than you. I was born in sixty eight. You were born in ninety five. So. Certainly I've got a little bit more of a breath of opportunity to see some of these players that you didn't get a chance to see. But those are some of the ones to pop into my head Phillips says, Ken, Philip heat will be a nominee for the Calder. Well, it's gonna be tough considering that he's probably not going to get the ice time that a lot of the guys are going to get. But hey, if he plays like he did last night, that was an incredible pacifist for the Rangers goal that tied the game at one in the second period. But I think it'll be tough. Just the way the Rangers are structured for him to be able to get major consideration. Travis says it just hit me, Mike commit, oh, you need to be on game his conduct with Donald Gregg. I think that would be a solid podcast. Okay. Let me find out who this person is. So I can look and see if I need to be on his podcast and he's a hockey historian, author of hockey, three sixty five. You know what reach out to me. I would love to be able to be on other people's podcast. I have a podcast I liked to also be on other people's podcasts m. k. says, nice, bounce. Back win by the Bruins last night after horrible game against the Cavs. I really have no confidence in Rask. So glad podcast is back. I missed it. Well, Rask is still a very good goaltender, but I will tell you this. I don't know if I start started ever against the Washington Capitals. He just cannot beat them on a bet, but I'm not sure you should lose confidence in him. Overall, Timoteo says with so many recent draft picks making opening night, rosters playing a significant amount of minutes. Is this the youngest league you've seen before don't have the exact numbers, but I feel like there are a lot of players under the age of twenty two right now. Well, that's where the league is right in a cap sport. You're gonna wanna try to get value for your players. So you want wanna do is get them at a young age, get them the play, establish themselves before you have to pay them. So I think you seem more than ever in all sports. You look at baseball with the number of nineteen twenty year olds that are making an impact football's a little different because you have to stay in college for three years, but in the NBA where you only have to play the one year. In college, you're seeing a lot of younger players, hey, I got a draft pick right, and it's not like the old days rhino. I'm going to have that guy for as long as he's gonna play. I wanna make sure that I have him at his prime before I have to start paying them a lot of money. So when I have a high draft pick and I believe this guy's ready to play and I'm on a team that maybe isn't ready to compete right now. 'cause you look at some of the younger players in the league? Darlene in buffalo is an example where you know I can play him because I don't think Buffalo's trying to compete for a Stanley Cup so I can give him minutes. So I think that's where all sports are going specially in the National Hockey League with these guys get drafted at song such a young age where they're not relying on college players the way the basketball and football are forever t. eight says, hey, Don by starter backup prospect who has the best. And worst goaltending situation in the NHL of the moment. I gotta think about that because the season just started on, I'm not in love with the Saint Louis goaltending. I'm certainly not in love with the Carolina goaltending I think marasmus and nice goaltender Dr. Ruling was awful. Last year, Curtis mcelhinney to me is always going to be just a perennial backup player. I mean, those are some of the guys kind of hop to mind when you look at the bad teams right? Either Marcus in played very well for Vancouver. Not sure he's got much of a future there, but you look at a bad team like Arizona, they've got a quality goaltender and Anderson. Right. So those are the ones that kind of hop to mind to me the goaltending situation being where it's at Crawford right now, not playing not in love which ACOG goes goaltending either. But the some of the teams not having to get an not having a chance to see everybody right now, but just kind of looking at rosters and going off a past experiences, those are two of the teams that kind of hop into my mind. Andrew Steele Davis. Again, love the name, Don loved the show, huge fan of you in general, what? What to be a want to be a sports journalist in the states and you are someone I look up to. So thank you. What did you make. Rangers opening week thoughts pretty good. So far, I would say lots of action. Talking points. Yeah. Overall, I, I just sensed structure. I brought it up in the broadcast today. It was it was like a fire drill. A lot of times last year, especially with the younger defenseman. But like I said, Smith back healthy seems engaged. Mcquaid good, solid defense been Shays kinda rounding into shape. I like their blue line now I, they're, they're getting outlet passes. They're getting out of the zone last year. I just saw a lack of structure guy scrambling around everybody, kinda working for themselves, turning the puck over trying to do too much. Now I see there's a system, there's a plan they support each other. So I think you'll start to see it as it goes on that they, they're not going to have a lot of breakdowns. They're not going to be giving up a lot of odd man rushes, and they're going to look a lot different than they did last year now, will they have the talent and the consistency to be a playoff team. The wait and see, but through the first sixty minutes of the season going up against maybe the best team in the National Hockey League. I think you have to be very encouraged by the performance five a major. I know it's early in the season, but what are the chances Columbus decides to move Panara in at the trade deadline in order to avoid losing him for nothing come July first or do they hold onto him and go for it this year? It's a calculated risk either way. I'll tell you this. Columbus is teetering. You're seeing it in Carolina by Carolina, least got a Cup early and they went to the Stanley Cup. Final in two thousand and two one a Cup in two thousand six, but they've gone ten years without making the playoffs. And you're starting to see where down the fan base that's a non traditional hockey market. There's other things to do you go ten years without making the playoffs. It discourages people. Same thing with Columbus nontraditional hockey town. They're thinking about the Ohio State buckeyes. Okay. But they liked the blue jackets, they want to be engaged in the blue jackets, but they have not been out of the first round. They've had talent, but they haven't made a run of Benchley. It's gonna wear on the fan base. It's got a, they got a great building. They got a great man base. It's a great area, but how much longer can you go without getting out of the first round? How much longer can you go and expect this nontraditional hockey market to support you? If you're not giving them something back? They haven't had a Ron. They've had good teams, but not great first round. Exits every time they've been to the playoffs. So eventually the fan base is going to start to look away. The fan base is going to start to lose faith. So with that said, it might be a good idea of this team is performing well, even if it means losing Brodsky, m Perrin if they're playing well and the teams going to go to the play offs you how you might have to ride that out. If you have a history of winning. If you have a fan base that you know that it's not gonna go away the maybe you can trade them so you don't lose them for nothing, but can you afford to risk maybe losing talented players that can help you make a run in the infancy of this franchise? I think you have to hold onto those guys. Zach says Rangers, look, good last night plays close game against one of the NHL's best teams a couple of mental mistakes and reluctance to shoot the puck cost the blue shirts Lundquist had a stellar game as well. We talked about the goal to PK sue Bamut. Another moment Rangers had a chance to tie it at two zoo. Gorilla passes a shot and passes days. Zouk got to be a little bit more on selfish there and shoot the puck on net get some goals. That was not the idea there. I think they, they gotta tie that game very easily and they could have maybe one that game. So these are little things that need to change. The Rangers are going to be competitive. Okay. We've got only a couple of games tonight, so nothing crazy, huge weekend of games, so we'll go over. Everything should be a lot of fun on Saturday where everybody is going to be back in action. Devils play their first game of the year with Edmund ten, three games on Sunday, including the Rangers in Carolina to take on hurricanes for a five o'clock start. And I'll be there for that one Maple Leafs in the Blackhawks and the Red Wings and the kings on Sunday. So we back with the on Monday to recap the weekend's zero rearm. Everybody would have played getting be able to assess everybody in what they're doing. So we'll be looking forward to that. So next Friday will be when we begin the top five. But I think it's a little too early in the season, not everybody has played to do it, so that'd be. Unfair. So wait till next Friday. When a load of on the questions and comments at Donald Gregg hashtag game has conduct have a great weekend. Everybody will talk to you again on Monday. 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St. Louis one win from Cup

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St. Louis one win from Cup

"The leaks. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don la- Greco and welcome to the Friday edition of game is conduct. I Don the Greco the scene. Louis Blues are one win away from capturing their first Stanley Cup championship with two one victory in game five last night in Boston to take three to seriously. Now we can recap the game. But everybody listening to the sound of my voice right now watch the game. So let's just get to it. Everybody's thinking about gilts get to with everybody is talking about today. And that, of course, is the non call. If you watch the game certainly we know we're talking about third period. The Saint Louis blues are up to two up one nothing. And the series is tied at two games apiece. Wonderful game a game that saw so many opportunities for the Boston. Bruins in the first period where they just had a commanding shot lead ended up out shooting, the blues, thirty nine to twenty one we'll get to that in a second. But midway through the third period. Peron scores. The goal to make it to nothing. But in this league nothing is simple. And of course you go back to the controversial non coal in this game. Chari gets taken down. Clearly gets taken down on the play should have been a penalty on Bosak now. There's a bunch of different directions that we can go into. Let's start from the beginning. Everybody sees a Chari godown fans react announcers react fans watching on television react to him being taken down. And you assume there's going to be a call because Bosak throws his hands in the air just like any guilty player. Would he committed the penalty? There's no question. He took a Chari down should have been a two minute penalty. Okay. Obviously with Charlie down, not being able to get up and because the blues possess the puck the official does not blow the whistle. That's the right call there. So affectively on the passing plays that lead to the Peron goal act to a Riley O'Reilly to Peron perran scores the goal, and it's to nothing and now it all starts because they're technically shorthanded a Chari can't defend Bosak. The play is completed to arrive early finds Peron goal scored obviously two plus two equals four the takedown leads to the goal instead of one nothing with half a period of play. Now the Bruins have to score twice. Bruins, of course score the Debrosse goal three minutes later to make it to one the fallacy of the predetermined outcome that should have been the tying score. And we could still be playing out the determine who wins game five. All right. Let's unpack this. It's a bad coal. But you have to put yourself in the perspective of Kelly Sutherland. All right. Television at least NBC showed. I did watch a little bit of the CBC feed on Twitter to get their reaction. Craig Simpson, of course. Agree just non-call everybody agrees with that. But on NBC they show Sutherland looking at the play. He's got a clear view of the play and they show the animation of where his sight lines are uninterrupted between himself and the play. But we don't see. And when no one can see, but Kelly Sutherland, unless you've got seats right behind the goal, and behind Sutherland is the angle in which the official sees the call and the distance in which he sees and the depth perception that he sees it from he sees a charger getting taken down. But because of the mecha- players where he was situated near the goal line. The play is at the circle. Is it possible that he just saw in inadvertent collision, and didn't blow the whistle? Now he's wrong. But he's wrong from the television angles that we see he's wrong from slow motion, but in real time when you know that these officials are encouraged to not blow the whistle when they can't it's so much easier for an official to swallow his whistle on a questionable play than the blow the whistle. And call a penalty on a questionable play because if it turned out that Chari fell down on his own or accentuated the fall down took a dive, and he blows the whistle. Then we're talking about how egregious call it was the non-call is frustrating as it is you clearly see and Bruce Cassidy brought this up after the game that since the blues complaints after game three that clearly are calling penalties and I would not be surprised that that's been the edict from the league. But I do think it all sports and official does not want to in the third period make a call that can affect the game. I think it's easier for him to bake the non-call on an air onto the. Side of let them play which most fans all want in the first place. So after every replay, none of which could actually show the angle that Sutherland had it looks agreed. Now Anson Carter, who by the way played for the Boston Bruins in his career in the post game show on NBC sports net. I flipped over to that to get the reaction. Course Mike Milbury. He's going crazy saying that it was such an awful call. And they blew it and clearly they did and, and certainly Jones E agreed. But Anson Carter he was honest and said, you know, when I saw live, I thought it was a good, call looking at the replays, clearly, it was an egregious non call the agreed is part of it all comes from the fact that you see it in slow motion under several angles something that the official does not get the benefit to see now we can go back and say after every goal we should go back and see if there are any penalties weaken unpack all of that during the off season, but that call. I'm just trying to give you the angle of Sutherland that may be his angle, looking at it, it could have been an inadvertent. Trip. It could have been a collision. It could have been him just losing his balance. And that's why he did not blow the whistle. Now that he's in the bag for the officials for the league now because they want the Saint Louis blues to win not because they're trying to force a game set. Whatever. All right. That's all silliness. Okay. There been a lot of bad calls, and clearly the league has to address it in some way, shape or form. But I do think a lot of these penalties that we flip out about we are going apoplectic after we get to see the review something the official who makes the call or doesn't make the call doesn't get the benefit of the doubt of all right. I thought the Bruins handled it. Well, I think they really killed two birds one stone, by the way, they reacted where they clearly expressed their regret on the non coal, and how bad it was. So they sent the message that listen, I think if you breathe on anybody wrong, and you're in a blue uniform in game six, you're probably going to get called, but they weren't over the top about it. And then they spun it back to hey, we gotta do. Better job, which is where I'm going to go right now. And it's easy to say that it should've stayed one nothing to the broth would tie the game. And that maybe the Bruins would have won the game. But you don't know the fallacy the predetermined outcome to nothing is completely different than one nothing. We don't know if the brushwood scored we don't know of the blues wouldn't have scored after Debrosse scored once it was tied at one as opposed to the protecting lead and even went into overtime, there's no guarantee the Bruins would won the game. Anyway. How about the fact that there were seventeen shots on goal in the first period for the Bruins. They out shot the blue seventeen to eight Boston's got to at least come out of that first period or the lead. And then they give up the goal early in the second period. So it's one nothing Saint Louis, but the blues the Bruins were clearly the better team. They just could not be Bennington, and he deserved to be one of the stars of the game because he was absolutely terrific. In the game making thirty eight saves we could also go back to the goal that was scored by Peron, probably one Rask would wanna have back. And we could also talk about the fact that there's still a series left. Okay. We go back to game three of the conference final when clearly the Saint Louis blues were jogged in overtime on the ham pass that wasn't called the blues. Do they still went out and won the series because they still a time to win the series? And the Bruins still have the ability to do that. They've been good on the road in these playoffs. Win the game on Sunday tie the series up at three then you get home ice advantage in game seven. So as much as we feel bad for the Bruins, and it stinks that we're all hockey fans, we've got to go through this, because it doesn't happen in other leagues does it you know what happened in the championship game between the saints and the Rams awful. Call you're killing the officiating leagues. Got to do something about it, but it's not like the league is a joke or if they travel in the NBA, or there's bad angel Hernandez behind home plate and his strike zone as awful. Well, then angel angel Hernandez, awful. We gotta get him outta there, but it's not baseball's a joke. But what happens in hockey as well. Hawk. He's a joke. Why will I will say this? And we debate this. If you want. I think it's the toughest sport through officiated the four major ones because even those a lot going on football. They've got way more officials. He'll the NBA the same thing. There's not the physicality, you have to worry about you gotta call the fouls but I think it's a little bit more in front of you. The space is a lot smaller than it is on the ice baseball. They've got what seven on Pires especially for the postseason, you know? So they have it all kind of scaled down there, but in the NHL you've got to two referees, you've got to linesmen that cannot make a call. They could be asked for help, just like a first third base umpire could be asked for help on a check. Swing in baseball. But in hockey, you've got two sets of eyes that can call the penalties with guys flying around faster than they ever flown around in the history of this sport, turn on any game from the seventies and eighties and looks like it's in slow motion compared to what's happening here and the differentiation in size. She get to that too, because Barbara Chev is going to get a hearing for his hit head head to the hit of Joe of the game last night, but we lived in a league back in the seventies and eighties where a guy five eight didn't survive in this league now. You got five eight defensemen. So even though there's not the physicality and we're trying to get rid of the headshots. It's tough for a guy six two to hit a guy that's five aid and avoid his head at times. Plus, these players sometimes bend over to play for the puck. They turn around the boards. So even though there's not as much hitting it's probably harder to be able to call penalties and differentiate between legal and illegal with the heads more. So now than it was back in the day because seemed like everybody was the same size back in the day or at least the same height. Now you can get a guy like Johnny Joe that can excel in the sport being diminutive in size. Heck it looks like the first overall pick in the NHL draft is gonna be Jack Hugh, is he's he's under six feet tall. But he could survive the league because of his speed, but. When he gets hit by Dana chara, who seven foot on skates is a very good possibility that the hit is going to be above the shoulder, even if he doesn't attend it to be. So we'll see if the Bruins can come back by back they're still alive. They still have a pulse. I still think they can win this series because the blues better be careful. Because game six it's going to be a party in Saint Louis. I've seen it firsthand myself when a team comes home with a chance to clinch all the family comes into town. People are asking for tickets, the media, if you thought it was big there for games three and four. You can imagine what it's going to be like for game six it's going to be a party atmosphere. There could be talking about scheduling a parade in downtown Saint Louis. If they win the game all that can be a distraction for a team that has never been in this situation before the Boston Bruins they've been there and they've done that before their veteran-laden team, they can take advantage of that. So if you think this series is over. I think you're sorely mistaken. I think the Bruins can use what happened to them last night to their advantage in games. Mix. I do think the officials will have the radar up for anything that's happening. Barbara chef Meg suspended which obviously can disrupt things for the Saint Louis blues, and I think still can be a seven game series that the Bruins can win are the other topic of conversation is today. No. Chara. If you're not as a Dana chara fan now, then you'll never going to be, and I understand he's a Bruin. And I understand that he sometimes he's very unlikable in his career, because he's been around for so long and the longer you're in the league, more enemies you make. But he's playing with a broken jaw and the fact that he played last night is both believable and unbelievable. It's unbelievable in the sports world that a guy can play with a broken jaw was suffrage as forty eight hours before. Okay. And actually play pretty effectively, and he played almost seventeen minutes of the game. The Bruins played with seven defensemen because they wanted to have that insurance. So camper got a chance to play for the first time in a while. And Bacchus was the was the scratch, so they gave him a little protection there. But it's also kind of believable because if you know hockey players, you know, you almost have to kill them. They're like zombies. You've gotta shoot him in the head in order for them not be able to play. So it's surprising and unsurprising. But what I also found interesting too, because we've been talking about this on the Michael Keisha. Clinch. Frazier. In case you have been listening to the Michael cash, or don't care about baseball is a outfielder for the New York Yankees who's really struggled defensively. And he's had a poor relationship with the media made a bunch of errors on Sunday against the Red Sox. And refused to talk to the media has a grudge against the media, staring them down, just being really a denial for lack of a better word, and I was taking I don't know if you guys thought this, if you if you were following the Enke's or following Clint Frazier, Sodano char cannot speak because of the broken jaw. So when he meets with the media, they ask him questions, and he writes, the answers down. I mean, the KYW's got a perfect excuse. Not to talk to the media, sorry, sedan does not available. He literally cannot speak because he's got a pro can joy no. He's still meets with the media. So Clint Frazier. How does that make you feel you're upset because you think you've been wronged by the media, you're a kid, and for the most part, people love you because you've actually? Formed offensively very well. I don't wanna talk to the media. I don't think I have to talk to the media. Meanwhile, today, no, char who's forty two years old. He's gonna waltz into the hall of fame already a Stanley Cup champion. He's got a broken John can't speak and still deals with the media. So another denial for sure in Clint Frazier, and I thought it was kinda rubbed in his face by today. No, char. If anybody happens to care about that. So we've got barbershop possibly getting suspended, which can disrupt things. I wonder if the seven defensemen had anything to do with the Bruins lack of finish last night. Now they got plenty of opportunity. So I don't think they have a kick coming necessarily but covering the Rangers the Rangers quite a few times played with seven defensemen. And when, when you play with seven defensemen, that means you play light one forward and for a team that's got a role four lines. That means someone has got to play more minutes that means lines are being disrupted because you're playing with eleven boards instead of twelve I wonder if that is a. Mistry issue. I found it to be with the Rangers this year. I don't know if you guys having followed the teams that you follow during the course of the year, since the same thing I think it's the right thing, the Bruins did because you wanted to have some insurance in case charred got hit again or char couldn't go, you don't want to go with five defense. Again, that's the reason why I think the blues won the previous two games in the series because of the lack of depth that the Bruins had with the injuries that they had on the blue line. So they did what they had to do. I just wonder how much of a disruption it ended up being so great game five which really was hurt by the no call by Kelly Sutherland, because I think got lost in all the analysis afterward, which is how the nominal a game that was and how much credit you really need to give the Saint Louis blues that crushed the Bruins on face offs. Fifty nine to forty one which I think was a big play in this game. They were actually out hit, which is rare for the Saint Louis blues, but they, they were covered. They got the goals. They needed to Jordan bidding tin is becoming. A flat out star in this league. I really thought it was gonna be more Tarasenko earlier in the playoffs thought Jaden Schwartz would have a chance to win the concept. I think it's going to come down to the two goaltenders now I think Bennington has got a chance to win it because he stole the game last night. And I thought the blues overcame quite a bit as well even though they got the break in the third period on the non call. It does take away from what was a phenomenal road game for the sT Louis Blues and there one win away from taking that Stanley Cup but the Bruins they're, they're champions in their own. Right. A lot of guys on this team there on that team in twenty eleven the went game six with the Chicago Blackhawks back in two thousand thirteen. So I don't think they're going quietly into that good night by any stretch, I think game six going to be phenomenal extra day of rest again because travel. So we've got to possible games left in our twenty eighteen twenty nine thousand nine season. Sunday game six cups going to be in the building and saying Lewis and the possible game seven will not be until Wednesday of next week back in Boston. So chance for some guys to rest up. Up some of the injured players to possibly he'll, and we'll keep an eye on. What happens with Barbara Shelvin whether he actually gets to spend it for the game. Six coming up on Sunday. Let's hear from you at down the Greco hashtag game is conduct. Let's start with Troy. He says was last night's victory more of a result of Bennington playing great or the Bruins just falling short of a top effort while they had thirty nine shots on goal. I can't say that their effort was poor by any stretch of the imagination. Again, the out hit the Bruins. The Bruins out hit the blues, too. So I really think that Bennington stood on his head. It was maybe one of his best games in the postseason forever. Ta ta seems like the sympathy for Boston isn't there after that on-call last night. But are we really happy that a finals game is being talked about by officiating missed a crucial call no matter the team sad to see that be the case. Well, unfortunately, what's happening forever t h is this is becoming more and more prevalent. Right. It's happening in all sports, because we break it down, so fine. That there's gonna be some non call that's going to be talked about now. This one was agree. Just because it was in the middle of third period of a one nothing game. The resulted in a goal. The made it to nothing and the final score was was two to one. So that's a big deal. But really, I think you can look at every game there was a missed too many men on the ice penalty. I thought Patrick sharp mentioned it on the on the desk after the game that if there was no goal of Rask as to say, we're not even talking about this, so that it was just a unfortunate, a perfect storm of events that went to the blues favor and against the Boston Bruins. But hey, I think it's happening in all sports. I watch I cover football I do post game shows for sixteen years with the jets and more times than not after the game, especially a close game. Why was that holding penalty not called? Why was that pass interference call I it's going to happen all the time. It, it is only going to affect things if you allow it to affect things, and it's, it's shows like this. This did talk about how great the game is the need to really focus on that. Although we did open with it, because it was pretty agreed. Just but you know, as far as being damaging to the sport and ruining the sport. I just think that if the end of the day, this series is at least going six games, and I think what's really going to be focused on is just how well these teams have really played and will let the league sort out the officiating in the calls and the rule changes during the course of the off season. Matt says, yes, the trip leading to the Saint Louis. Second goal should have been a penalty. But remember the first two rounds when chara was allowed to clutch in grab and Marshon was breaking sticks behind officials backs the hockey gods. See all well, see they Matt. Thank you for bringing all of that up because over a long play offs. And, and when you sit here and we get toward the end of the season, we look back and go, oh my God. It feels like a hundred years ago. The Vegas San Jose series with the, the five minute major and you look back to the Bruins Columbus series which was just the last series. The Bruins played in if feels like it. Was months ago because it's such a long journey to the Stanley Cup. But you're right. I mean everybody looks through it to the colored glasses of their favorite teams colors. Right. So I'm sure there are seeing Louis fans who are saying, well, you missed this, you missed that we were do one. Look what happened in the San Jose series. You're right. Columbus fans are sitting watching last night's game saying Marcia stepped on this broke a steak and he, he punched who is it. Anderson in the back of the head. They never made a call. Everybody's gotten away with stuff. Everybody's caught breaks but, you know, the ones that we remember are the teams that take advantage of them because there are miss calls. There are bad penalties called. There's bad bounces of the puck all the time in this sport all the time and we don't talk about it, when nothing happens when there's no goal the last night, there was a goal scored. Birger Peron made that a story because he scored the goal if Rask makes the save. We're not talking about it. It just another one of the miscall that we would forget about thirty seconds after it had happened give credit to the blues retaken advantage of it give credit to the sharks for scoring four goals. On the five minute major give the Bruins the credit for committing those penalties getting away with it and taking advantage of it. We wouldn't be talking about them taking advantage of the of the Columbus blue jackets had they not come back from two one down in the series to win. So whether you will take advantage of the brain, whether you make the brakes, whether you have the brakes come to you. The fact is you have to take advantage of them. And the one thing, the Boston Bruins have going for them. The no longer can help the Columbus blue jackets, that it'll all no longer can help. The Vegas Golden Knights is the fact that they are still alive, the Bruins still alive. They can change it win a game on Sunday. Go back to Boston Garden for game seven win that. And it'll be just talked about how great this championship team. Overcame the bursary they have to take advantage of the fact that they're still alive. John. Michael says listening to you long enough to say the Bruins giving up on the play led to the goal more than the non coal when bit it with when Bennington stick was torn away, he still played it out and made a huge save. That's also a great point. John about when the when the stick was taken away play continued, and nobody gave up if not, we will be talking about that non call as well. So uh than I don't know how much the led up led to the goal. But I do think the to grasp certainly would have wanted to have that goal back for sure. So you're right. It's about taking advantage of the situations. And there's a lot of other things like Bennington losing his stick and not giving up the goal that definitely changed the narrative, curt chaplain, longtime friend of mine. Of course if you ever watched the people's court, you know, Kurt, he's the one that interviews everybody after the trial is over. He says bad calls and bad hops happen. Part of the game you've got to overcome. Mm them an enormous one win against the blues in the hand passed goal. It costs them a huge game of the sharks, but, but ruby immediately turned the page moved on and look where they are now absolutely could not have said it better myself Christmas high down the flyers came back against Boston. In two thousand ten I felt the key moments where the injuries to injury too crazy. And the return of Simone ganja therefore, do think the injuries to Gresley and chara are tipping the series in favor of the blues. Absolutely. I think the real story line about the blues is how they warned down this defense of the Boston. Bruins now you could say, well wait a minute regrets. Lake was Haiti legally and that led to a suspension, Sundquist got suspended for that hit chara was hit with a POC that had nothing to do with the physicality, but what they the blues have done to that blue line with the healthy guys. And when they've played with five defensemen would the exceptional last night, where the Bruins out hit the blues. It's been how physical Saint Louis has been that I think is really warned the players who were on the ice down. So I do think that is a great example. And we'll see if the extra day off gets grizzly back until the lineup and makes a char a little bit healthier. So they can go back to their six best defenceman and get back to what they were doing best earlier in the playoffs. Tony says Don I'm torn I can't stand the thought of another Boston sports title, but the series is too good. Not to go seven. It would be great for the sport. If it goes the distance thoughts PS, the Bruins of the only Boston franchise have any respect for interesting Tony. Of course. If you're a hockey fan you wanna see seven games we haven't seen a game seven since twenty eleven so I'm going to be rooting for the Bruins to force that game seven as much as I'd love to see the blues win their first Stanley Cup a game. Seven doesn't come around all that often A Roberts is. I think Bennington has a great chance to win the consummate the, you know how many rookies if any have won before I know Dryden, actually won it before his rookie. Season. Patrick wa did it in one thousand nine hundred eighty six I think I got a look back. I'm Cam ward might have been a rookie in two thousand and six I'm gonna look that up. Now Cam ward was rookie Cam ward, actually played he played twenty eight games in five zero six and of course, twenty three games to win the Stanley Cup. So Cam ward was a rookie. So that answers that question Victor says no called is going to be the biggest talking point. However, I can't believe chara played with his mouth wired shut you ever remember someone playing through a broken jaw or something like that. I know it's happened, but I am somebody doing it kind of does not pop into my head. I'm sure it has happened. But still, he's and let's not forget the fact he's forty two years old to I mean, how many forty two year olds are playing there's just one that's Matt colonies afford. Who doesn't play nearly as many minutes as a defenseman especially sedan chara James white says to legal hits to the head by Saint Louis. With no call wanted Johansen and want to Tori, krueg. I'm getting tired of the dirty play on wall. Certainly Barbara chef might not be able to get away with it. So we will see what happens there. And I thought that the head on crew was not as agreed to some people might think Sean says, is the no call defensible in any way. Maybe incidental, contact or something like that, even Bosak thought it was a penalty and it's not defensible. It's indefensible as I said earlier in the podcast, based on the fact that you see so many angles but live, it's guy falling down, and then you have to wait and see what the call is. And I'll give you a perfect example. And I think he's one of the best in the business. I work with Dave Maloney. When I do the ranger broadcasts. And I can't tell you how many times they'll be a call missed player. Arranger gets tripped. All my God. I can't believe they made that didn't make that call awful. And then you look at the replay and enable, you know what I take it back and looking at the replay, and he fell down on his own or it ended up tripping over one of his teammates sticks. So how you react. In real time, sometimes does not mean you're gonna react the same way. When you see the replay this one, clearly shows whatever your reaction was at the time was the right reaction. But the agree justness of the call did not come until replay. I mean that's the way I looked at it too, when I'm watching the game. And I see him go down. I'm like, oh, look like they miss something there. I got to see the replay, and then I see the replay. All right. Yeah. Look like was it? Did he run into them on? I got stuck his knee out there. You stick was there. We really got the analyzed it. And then in the more and more, analyze the more angry, you get in the more you feel like they missed the call. Not anything to Kelly Sutherland can benefit from. I just wonder now as we get to game six and then possibly a game seven on Wednesday whether we will see the same officiating crew at all in the next possible to games or as just the controversy enough where you know, we can't Kelly back into the game you figure he's not gonna he's not gonna officiate game six. They never go back to the same officials the very next game. Game. And then I think him going back the Boston would probably be a huge mistake. I actually feel bad for Kelly Sutherland, the next time he has to officiate a game in Boston. Because I don't think those fans are gonna forget anytime soon. All right Monday. We're going to try to get EJ. It's getting might be tough. I think it might be easier of Saint Louis wins because he's probably gonna hang around Saint Louis a little bit. And with the celebration and everything. So we're going to try to get EJ as we do every Monday, of course, EJ from the NFL network NHL, now, I don't know what his travel schedule is going to be because everybody's gonna jump and have to hurry back to Boston for the possible game seven, although there is the extra day off. So I don't know the answer is I don't know if he is going to join us on Monday. But you know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to try to we'll try to get a guest of some sort, even if not at TJ in Saint Louis win certainly will try to tap into the blues a little bit. Just got the reaction from the first ever Stanley Cup. And if nothing else we will be previewing the game seven coming up on Wednesday. So we will talk to you again on Monday need to get in touch with me during the course of the weekend or during game six. On Sunday at download brecca hashtag game. Conduct is the best way to do that. And you've always got to put hashtag game conduct. So it doesn't get lost in all the tweets that we get during the course of the day. So we'll be back with you get a Monday. This was the Friday edition of games conduct. Listening to the game misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb record? 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Up First

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Wednesday, May 15, 2019

"The situation between the US and Ron is getting more tense at the same time. Secretary of state Mike Pompeo said this yesterday, fundamentally do not see a war with Iran. So why is the Trump administration reportedly looking at plans that would send more than one hundred thousand US troops to the Middle East? I'm Rachel Martin with Noel king, and this is up. I from NPR news. Lawmakers Alabama has to Bill that would ban all abortions only exception is if the mother or the fetus are endanger to all. I'm sorry. This comes after a handful of other states passed restrictive abortion laws could this all be leading to a supreme court fight and Facebook says it will restrict to can use their live video features that move was prompted by an attack on Muslims in New Zealand two months ago. Could these new rules stop the spread of violent content? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from we transfer more than a file sharing service with products to capture collects presents and share ideas from anywhere on any device for bringing ideas to life and getting you back to yours. More ad leave dot by we transfer dot com. Support also comes from ZipRecruiter hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go where hiring is simple and smart that place is recruiter where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash up. I the US military is saying that American forces in Iraq could face quote credible and possibly imminent threats unquote from Iranian backed militias in the New York Times reported yesterday that there could be plans to send as many as one hundred and twenty thousand US troops to the Middle East if Iran attacks US four. Ses or American allies or accelerate its work on nuclear weapons. Here's what President Trump said. When asked if that option was on the table would I do that? Absolutely. But we have pledged for that. Hopefully, we're not gonna have to plan for that. And if we did that which send a hell of a lot more troops than that Fritz part. Iran says it doesn't want war, but it won't renegotiate a nuclear deal already negotiated. The Iranian government announced last week it might even restart some elements of its nuclear program NPR's national security correspondent Greg Myers with us in studio. Good morning, Greg. Good morning oil. So we are talking about the span of a week here in which things between the US in Iran seemed to have really deteriorated what happened. Well, the couple of incidents we've had with have been several oil tankers couple of belonging to the Saudis that were damaged relatively minor damage. There was a couple of tax on Saudi oil infrastructure again small scale attacks. But this is certainly adding to this this heightened sense of ten. The Pentagon is very wound up about this without explicitly saying where the threat might be coming from from Iran, but you know, what kind of potential attack we'd be looking at. And we really saw this yesterday. The there was a the British general who's the number two in the coalition in Iraq said he wasn't really seeing was asked several times, and we're not really seeing any increase threat from Iran or its forces, and he was immediately or within a couple of hours rebuked by US central command, which put out a statement saying there is something serious and secretary of state Mike Pompeo also made some remarks yesterday point to that. Let's listen states will continue to apply pressure to the regime in Tehran until its leadership is prepared to return to the ranks of responsible nations. The do not threaten their neighbours or spread, instability or tear, and Greg then the State Department announced that it would pull out non-emergency personnel from Baghdad is there a connection there? Don't know at this point really hard to say, certainly there's a lot of tension in the region. Iran has militias they are. But we don't know exactly what the relationship is there. What are the Iranian saying about all this? Well, it was in New York two weeks ago, where the Iranian Foreign Minister Muhamed divide Zaree was and he spoke with a small group of journalists, including myself now, he acknowledged these new US sanctions are going to have an impact the US really cut into Iran's oil exports last year when it ramped up sanctions another round has has come in just this month, and that's really hammering Iran. So they they're really worried about the economic impact here. What are you going to be watching for next a couple things? What is the exact nature of this threat? We still don't know Iran has militias in the region. But we don't know what the nature of the threat is and the US Iranian forces are in close proximity in the region, a small incident can be miscalculated or misinterpreted NPR's national security correspondent. Craig my thanks, Greg. Thanks will. All right. The state of Alabama is poised to put into place one of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the entire country. Yeah. The state Senate in Alabama overwhelmingly passed this Bill last night. It bans nearly all abortions at every stage of pregnancy to say the Bill is controversial is an understatement. The only exceptions to the ban is if the mother's life is at serious risk, or if there is a potentially fatal fetal anomaly NPR national correspondent, Debbie Elliott has been following all this from Alabama to be good morning. Good morning. Okay. So this would be one of the most restrictive laws in the country. What does it say, exactly? Well, it criminalizes abortion. It makes it a felony for doctors to perform one and they could face up to ninety nine years in prison. If they're convicted women, however would not be held criminally liable for having an abortion, this whole idea that there was no exception for rape. And incest was really a sticking point in last. Night's debate in the Alabama Senate and some Republicans even broke away with the party line vote to protect victims of rape, incest. Here's Senator Cam ward. Well, I've heard testimony from both a twelve year old and a fourteen year old who were both raped incessantly by a relative and have a father of daughters. And it just gives me Paul's gives me a lot of Paul's hearing those stories here they went through not had exceptions on there. And I know there's a legal argument, otherwise, but I personally believe that there should be exceptions now that legal argument, otherwise that he's talking about sponsors of this Bill say they wanted it clean. They want to try to establish legal human rights for a fetus in a direct challenge to Rovers his weight, which of course, is supreme court's landmark ruling that established a woman's right to abortion. Okay. So their gender is pretty clear now this Bill overwhelmingly passed through the state legislature. Now, it's up to governor Kay Ivey to sign it. Is there any chance that she will not? You know, she says she's going to review it before she says anything about it. But she's likely to sign it. She's a conservative politicians. She has a record against abortion and sponsors of the Bill say, they really expect her support Debbie other states have recently passed restrictive abortion laws. Not as restrictive is Alabama's but Georgia Mississippi, Ohio this part of a coordinated effort of some sort yet. You're seeing a way of these laws particularly in the south in the midwest. For example, laws that would ban abortion once fetal heartbeat could be detected courts of already found some of those to be unconstitutional, and now Allah bama's legislation is even more restrictive as you say at any stage of pregnancy. And it will be challenged the ACLU of Alabama has put the state on notice. It will sue. But Republican state Senator CLYDE Chambliss who sponsored the Bill says, that's the whole point. This Bill is designed to do is to go to the supreme court, and challenged that particular. Residents that said in nineteen Seventy-three that abortion is legal on demand. Essentially anytime anywhere for any reason antiabortion groups are saying they believe the makeup of the supreme court with two of President Trump's appointees. Now makes this the right time to take on row. Abortion providers. Meantime, say this is just playing politics with women's lives. Stacey FOX Planned Parenthood southeast says Alabama politicians will quote live in infamy for this vote. And they say they plan to make sure that every woman knows who to cold accountable should this become law. All right. So it sounds like it is shaping up at some point for legal fight. That's what they're hoping NPR's national correspondent tabby Eliot. Thanks so much. You welcome. Facebook has just announced a new restriction for its live streaming features. Yeah. They announced this change yesterday. And essentially it says that users of Facebook would be banned from posting on Facebook live just for a period of time. If they had violated the companies use a rules in some way, and this is coming, of course, after the horrendous attack in New Zealand, the attack on the mosques in Christ Church a couple of months ago, the gunman had live streamed that massacre speaking yesterday, New Zealand's, Prime minister are Dern issued a call to action they security risks that we've experienced main said, it is time for companies and governments to come to give to address the issues we experience on the fifteenth but match send Arden in Paris today where she is expected to push governments. And also these tech companies to commit to combating the spread of extremism on. On social media. Heather Kelly is CNN San Francisco technology editor she's been following this story carefully. Good morning. Heather good morning. Thanks having. So this is one change that Facebook is making. But it seems as though it may be significant walk us through what exactly is changing about their policy. Sure. Thank. So it's actually a very narrow and specific new goal that they're kind of an acting here. It is going to only apply to Facebook live, and they're also being a little vague about it. But anybody who violates certain policies will get kind of a one stripe will and immediately. They will be banned from Facebook live for that period of time. It sounds like they're gonna start with thirty days. A second strike could be longer. And eventually they could be kicked off a Facebook live or even Facebook itself. And what's interesting Facebook isn't actually saying which rules will will kind of fall into this. It does say that anybody violating it's dangerous organizations and individuals policy could be banned from Facebook live, and that's essentially. Anybody that is basically supporting a terrorist organization or posting linked to a terrorist organization perhaps without enough context to make it really clear where they stand Facebook is Rachel pointed out says they're doing this because of this massacre in Christchurch New Zealand the man who committed those attacks livestream to them on Facebook with these changes have stopped him or someone like him from being able to post to we know that Facebook told me yesterday that this this would have actually applied to the shooter. If these rules had been enacted before he had apparently violated some Facebook rules. We don't know which previously and he would have had a ban on his Facebook live streaming. What's interesting, though, is hypothetically if that did happen. He would have known that he was banned. You could have started a new account. He could have found a way around it. We don't really know how play out in that Facebook is often slammed for not taking responsibility. When things like this happen on its platforms. Does this policy seem to point to shift in taking responsibility? Again, it's such a narrow policy. It's really hard to read too much into it. It does a dress one kind of way that somebody might broadcast hate speech on the platform. But there are tons of other ways that that people are kind of using Facebook to spread hate speech conspiracy theories all sorts of what it kinda calls hateful speech, and I it's not really going to dress all those fix all those. It's just fixing this one situation that happened exactly two months ago that was CNN's Heather Kelly. Thank you so much Heather, and we should note that Facebook is a sponsor of NPR. And that is up. I for Wednesday may fifteenth. I'm too well king, and I'm Rachel Martin start your day with us here tomorrow. And because you know, this the news doesn't stop in this podcast is so follow us on Twitter at first for your daily roundup of the most important stories of the day. 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"The lease. That game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Monday edition of game has conduct down the Greco Monday means. E J Radic from the NHL network, NHL now, four to six PM eastern time. How are you, sir? I'm great. How you doing today? Good. I tweeted out we're going to recap the weekend, but we have not had you on, since the hand pass and figure, that's probably the best way to start. An and listen is anybody. Listen to this podcast. We've talked about a longtime my feelings on expanding replay. I think it's very dicey. I can't just have every bad call saying they should review that they should review that this one seems like a pretty easy fix EJ. You know, leads to a goal just include a hand pass the same way, you would a distinct kicking motion the same way you would and offside. I mean, I think this could be a very easy fix. Well, I mean, I think you know, like maybe just review all the goals, all scoring plays out of things that could happen in them. But I. There's no question about that. You know, Marquette was the referee. He was kind of blocked there. But, you know, I think he could've done better job getting out to the goal line again in front of that play more. But, you know, these are things that the officials is hard said, many times that it's very, very hard job and that was the midst. I don't know what else to say. I mean, there was I looked at it where the officials were the only other knowing guy who had really any chance of seeing it was the line's been on the, the close side, there Murray and even for him, it would have been you know, he might have been blocked by Schwartz so not easy. Now it's just one of those things in and I respect Larry Brooks of courses all Famer. And he suggested like what you suggested just making every goal reviewable and he, I don't know if he's suggested that he was talking about that. The idea is problematic, because, you know, you'd have to look at all these things I mean, I look at it this way review the things that lead up to a scoring plane. And you know you're not gonna go back like two and a half minutes. Well, see, that's the thing. He I mean he wasn't suggested. And he was suggesting that, that could be dicey. Just because as you said, what are we going to go back to an F minutes? What would I would say that is these video coaches for each team or outstanding where if there were an offside, they would have challenged it anyway, because if you say, like Jerry deneen I've gotten to know with the Rangers. He's, he's always right? They wouldn't now. Now with the penalty, there's no way they're going to challenge, unless they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that it's offside and they know every time it's cross every time the team enters zone. They looked to see if it's offside or not. So I, I really don't even think that's an issue because it would have been challenged anyway. But if there were a hand pass or or anything else then you'd be able to detect it. I think if you review the elements around scoring play gives you an opportunity to look at it gives you it gives you, it gives you an out to evaluate it because like the other night. In that game. There was no other was no way out. The officials they missed it. It's not reviewable. There's nothing they can do so by saying that you're going to review the goal, you know, all scoring plays like they do in the NFL you know fewer scoring plays. But you know really games. I guess the NFL more than anything else, right over scoring plays. And then fell gave just as there are you know in hockey? So I think that way you give yourself an out. You know, another idea. I heard from a friend of ours, Craig Button, these maybe just the coaches to challenges each and they could challenge anything they want and outside of judgment call, you know, a tripping penalty or something like that. But puck over glass which in that very same game. Puck over glass was missed. I think that's one of the easiest ones to review and get right? You know, the accidental, high stick where you hide stick the wrong guy or the U. Hi, stick yourself. And then somebody gets the Brian for it. You know, things like that. I think are easy to kind of look at video review. But, you know, we're not going backwards and the other issue too is that, you know, and I thought about it in that game is that they're, you know, the element of gambling in hockey is growing and because of that. And because the ability to review, I think we're gonna have to, you know, you're going to have to review and look at a lot of things just because there's, there's a lot of money at stake now and it's the integrity of the game is at stake, you know in those situations. So I don't think the genius going back in the bottle, I wouldn't if the league, you know, their leadership was strong enough to say, hey, you know, we are okay with the oxide being handled by the linesman. And, you know, basically, it's within the spirit of a wool to be offside by, like a quarter of an inch. Maybe they let that they decide to go on that. But again, that's something that has now when seeing that it's the number of cases when you know, it's the block and white rule. And, and it gets the it gets violated. So I mean it's a tough, I think it's a tough thing for all the sports that I think they're all dealing with their own ways. I mean I know I watched baseball games that I've constantly amazed at the strike zone and baseball with significant or hate. I mean, like ball, one strike, one in baseball at the start of a of account changes the whole of that. And so, you know, baseball is having to deal with that is, you know, over time and, you know, we'll hockey we have our challenges here and, you know, this is certainly one of them, but I think especially because of the advent of pro sports betting that you, you have to take all these things into account, and you have to be aware of the, the potential of, you know, the look the sniff the smell. All of rioting. Yeah, there's no question, and it comes right down to this again, as a as a grievous, call as it was the blues kind of let it happen by giving up the goal in the final minute. Otherwise, they would have won that game in regulation. And if you believe in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome would have clinched the series last yesterday afternoon with a win and then. All right. Let's say with the goal doesn't necessarily mean the blues win the game in overtime the shark four ten seconds later. But what has happened since, then he Jay is the blues of really flex their muscle on this was the concern that we had going into the series. It's why I picked the blues in seven. I just think the sharks are wearing down and you're starting to see what Carlson's injury now Pevez sqi takes a hit. I'm not sure if that should be a disciplinary action, not with the hit to the head and all that we can discuss that in a second, but you're starting to see a team that's played a lot of games. And I think the stronger maybe a little younger team is starting to show here in the latter stages of this Western Conference final. Well, I knew at the end of the day. At the. You know it's funny. They both play almost identical amount of games. Right. I mean San Jose is played one more game. Right. Louis. Saint Louis was coming off a seven game series as well. So, you know, that's one of the things I think, when I looked out at the shore of the series, I thought the charts higher guys will better, but the Saint Louis blues one twenty two roster deeper. And I think you're seeing that with the contributions that we're getting from the fourth line, just terrific. You know, Barbara shove and son quiz and seen I think those guys have been a difference maker. They've been much like the fourth line for the Bruins have been throughout the playoffs this year with the corral, and then company, there so of, of Louis have worn the sharks. Now, there's no question. There's a number of injuries now that we have to look out. I mean you know era from just look shot. I mean I don't know where they I mean doesn't have a full stride. He's obviously got some kind of groin or or core issue that has been a big problem for him. He's doing the best you can. But, you know, it's just, you know, I think tomorrow night, if you're playing, but all you gotta play seventy and you just have to play him on power plays. And that's it. So I don't know if that's possible. But I mean I just think it's going to be a struggle for him, Joe pavilion. If you have a hard time thinking that he's coming back after what he's been through. And then getting hit again looks like possibly can cost again yesterday I have a hard time thinking he's gonna play I have no idea. What's going to happen till Marshall, you know, he can't be played in the game for while after getting hit from Barbara shove. And then he he retired her locker room. So the only thing I will say, you know, for the San Jose, Sharks, and their defense here. Isn't they look at it? And buried after game four against the Vegas Golden Knights around one they've got some really high in players. They got the highest people their competitors. And, you know, I I I'm not gonna count him out after what I saw in that series against Vegas. 'cause they were general, it'd be in that one, but they are up against it right now because they are banged up at the Saint Louis blues are feeling now they're definitely feeling it. And if they win that game, or when there any of the next two or either the next two, then we'd have a rematch in nineteen seventy with Bobby ORR flying through the air with the game winning goal in game four and overtime. And, and honestly, I don't want to disrespect those three teams the went to the Stanley Cup final. But this is almost be like their first trip. Right. I mean an expansion team was going to go back, then they put all the expansion teams in the same conference. So that meant an expansion team was going to go and the Scotty Bowman led blues, just we're a little ahead of everybody else. But you know so many near misses and so many great regular season teams so many disappointments in the postseason. It would be a tremendous story and even being indep. I'd last January third of this season able to go to the Stanley Cup final would be a heck of a story. Yeah, it just goes to show you that things can come together in a season for team and the arrival of Bennington, but a difference maker, you know, over the weekend, I spent the weekend in Allentown, Pennsylvania, with the USA hockey level, four coaching conference, which, you know, I was able to get my level four certificate now. So that's really good for me in terms of nice doing my youth hockey things, but through the weekend, Ryan Walter was there, the former capital and Canadian and cannot get played fifteen or so years in the league and won the Stanley Cup with the eighty six Canadians, and he told the story of that team and he said, really February of that year we said we were dysfunctional. And he said, for sure, we thought there was going to be a trade or a coaching change. And then the, the general manager of that team at the time search warrant he goes to the end we he. Opted not to do anything, and he goes between February and may, you know, all of a sudden, at the end of the run, and we are the Stanley Cup champions, that, you know, and that's was Patrick, wow, was or young goalie that kind of came out of nowhere, and let the way for the Canadians in this case, you know, years and years later, it's it's your bidding and who's kind of, you know, come onto the scene in January, then the blues taken off. So the hockey seasons are interesting and the ebbs and flows and how teams can find their way, and particularly now that it's so close there that the Saint Louis blues we've, you know, we've done the math. They've been the best team in hockey since January, the third, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they are one game away from going to the family. So the message is just don't fall too far out of it. I mean if you hang in there, then you have a chance, it's a long as you said a long long season January third. So like seems like your deep into the season because the calendar, you know, had flipped over. So they're still alive. Lot of hockey to be played after that. And the blues took advantage of it, and now are five wins away from winning their first ever Stanley Cup and their weights. Boston similar to all these other teams that had to wait, it probably is good for Boston to get some, some rest here, right? Because they get a lot older players chara looks like it'd be ready for the final, which now officially is gonna start next Monday a week from today. You know, crates he's been around for a while? Marcia has been around for a while. There were there were five players EJ, I think four or five players that were actually on that owned nine team that last played Carolina. So it just shows you there's a lot of length there. I mean there's guys like Carlo and McEvoy they've got younger players, but, you know, they've got a lot of older players that probably are gonna use this week plus off to their advantage. Well. A lot of time. A lot of time they're going to miss. I think eleven days between when they played lots and the Cup final. I think the last sixteen that have had a long lay-off for a longer lay off their opponent have all lost. So you know include the Bruins in two thousand thirteen they had a longer lay in the Blackhawks at your so we'll tell plays out. But I mean if indeed were to get a blues Bruins final, and then the teams are very similar their deep teams with experienced guys at the top of their clubs. And I mean, the biggest difference is that the Bruins haven't experienced goaltender that's been there in two carafe, and the, and the blues have rookie, Jordan Benneton, but, you know, he's played he's been anything like a rookie. And you know, a funny side note to that is if these teams play Jordan Bennington played some games for the providence. Bruins last year as part of being loaned out. I mean, that's how far off the depth chart. Right. Was with the blues. So I mean there is some familiarity with Jordan Bennington with some of those younger players probably in Boston. And, and some of that, Oregon. Station that stretches back, you know, in the providence. So they'll have a little bit of a book on, on Bennington, and they've played. May have earlier in the year. And you know, he was he was excellent against them, certainly in the game in Saint Louis. When the blues were able to win that one, I believe in a shootout to what that's what we're looking forward to it. And of course we got the game Tuesday for game six and we'll see if they'll be a game seven hope and they'll be just from a fan standpoint and, and all that plays into the that'd be. That'd be something if the sharks do come back. Right. I mean how many teams have you seen play twenty one games before they even get to the Stanley Cup final? I would just be an unbelievable story Rangers like I mean that's like the tour Torello ranger were has all those games ever liberally. Yeah. Just could not finish teams often it ended up costing them. It did cost him in two thousand twelve in the conference final. I thought the devils who had played less games. They had to go seven in the first round but just went five against Philadelphia and round two in those that doesn't sound like a lot. But those two extra games less, you know, it, it can definitely help. And let's not forget to you as you mentioned before just one just one extra game. For the sharks compared to the blues, but just the heavy lifting of coming back from three one down and all the overtime games that they played. I mean they probably played an extra game just from the amount of overtime that they had played just to be able to get through so, you know, so it's crazy. All right. Come other news notes before we get to the tweets John Davidson, I guess, no surprise, is the new president of. Of the New York Rangers. And I and I've been assured by my connections there that he he's fitting in naturally. He's not gonna come in here and start making changes. He's simpatico with what has already been planted in their recording and jewelry, and Sean feld steps down. So the era of Glen say there is now over and John Davidson, I've been a short is gonna fit in, I guess there was some concern that, you know, because he had some success in Columbus that he might want to do his own thing. But it sounds like he's on the same page. Well, I think John, you know, he knows the circumstance of, of the players because you know, he's had a milliards with the franchise going way back. Right. So he knows kind of what's going on. I think that he will come in he will evaluate you know, and see how this rebuild is continuing to go. And I think if there's any bumps in the road or any concerns, you know, he, he will. I think, you know, guys you like to put their imprint or their stamp on things in some way. And I'm sure that there are there will be a, you know, a couple of people that might be out there that he thinks are good fits to be within the range organization, some capacity. So I guess we'll see how that plays out. But I think he you know, he's a smart enough guy to know that you gotta come in and evaluate the situation up close. He hasn't had the ability to evaluated up close now on a while. So you know, but I think it was no surprise. They've got the guy they wanted I think that targeted him and, you know, for a long time, and I know these things you know, who knows what gets discussed. With who there's always, you know, backchannel things that happened. That's just the, the real world. We live in, and I'm not surprised. He's coming in, and, you know, we wish him all the best. I mean, John Davidson has been a he's been a, you know, a franchise you know, a big figure in their franchise's history back to what he was the Rangers on a great run in nineteen seventy nine with some terrific goaltending. And then, you know afterwards for several what a couple of two two and a half decades. The play is the color guy, along with Sam Rosen on their TV. So fans are very, very familiar with them. And I think you'll come in and he's got some good experience. Now he was in Saint Louis Columbus. Oh. He's experienced executive coming into the situation in New York, and there's nothing wrong with having someone that the fans absolutely adore to kinda forward your message. Right. And you know, Jeff Gordon's a hockey guy, and he's not bad on the air at all. Chris jury. They've kind of kept I somewhat protected. He, he hasn't really been out there since taking over, you know, as part of their regime, there with the rain. Injures. But, you know, Jay deal go on the shows you'll handle the press conferences, because, you know, I do think that you can turn things over fairly quickly in sports now EJ I think the five year plan those don't exist anymore. Even to three year plan is starting to go away. I mean you hit the reset button, you're expected to win, you know within the next couple of years. But if this does end up being a little bit slower and it doesn't sound like they're going to go and dive directly into big name, reagents, although, Pinera, and maybe something to falls into their lap. You know, if you are going to go a couple more years of missing the ploughs, this isn't a bad face to put on that, you know, to kind of sell your fans on. Hey, we're moving in the right direction. I think that's also very much a part of sports nowadays. Right. Yeah, that's the part of it. But, you know, he is someone that is, as you mentioned, I think, pretty beloved by the fan here, and if things go, well, he'll continue to be beloved if things go less than well then I guess, we'll have to play now exactly. I guess they seem like they're very much on the, on the right page what they're doing with all the draft picks the prospects. Now they gotta make turn those draft picks into into guys that can help them win on the ice. And certainly having the second overall pick is going to go a long way to doing that. Sounds like Patrick wa is going to be a candidate for these senators head coaching job, your thoughts on that. Well, I mean, it'd be interesting, right. Because you have an owner there and Eugene Melvin who's kind of, you know, I guess, to be kind just as, as a character and, you know, financially, I've, I've always, I've wondered last couple of years if he has the wherewithal to really to run that thing as, as you like I think he's been holding on until the franchise can get a. A new facility maybe built in the downtown Ottawa area, which has been the talk over the last couple of years of a possibility of that happening. And if if it did, it would certainly raise the value of the team in any kind of sale, but you know, as for Patrick wa I mean Patrick likes to be in control and the your meek guy himself. So you know that's the way it goes. I mean, the I'll be curious to see you know how if that happens. I mean, how it'll work Patrick had success in his first year was a coach in, in Colorado. He's have a lot of young players, certainly in in Ottawa's to, to work with but you know, he's a big name. And, you know, the Ottawa Senators, I mean, the way things have gone, there, the last couple of years, they could certainly, you know, maybe, you know, a big name who was willing to go, there would be helpful in their in their quest to get over the next couple of years. And for people that don't know their Canadian geography, you know, there's so much about the, the rivalry between the Canadians and the Maple Leafs. And really, that's just because their original sixteens Ottawa and Montreal or like an hour and a half apart. I mean they're very, very close. So I'm sure there's a lot of people in Ottawa that might have grew up Canadians fans the kind of converted to Senator fans because it was in their community. I think he'd have a lot of cachet there in Ottawa because it's been stale there for a while. Right. EJ. Mean they've, I've always kind of they kind of reminded me of the New Jersey Devils of Canada, right? They're, they're a little too close to Montreal and Toronto. And, you know they're not quite the, you know, the have the following of the other big Canadian cities, they've been good, but not, he'll not great for a while and the to get a little shot in the arm probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get the fans. Go in there a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would make them a little more relevant. You know with having Patrick there. I don't know if it would, you know make them necessarily a better team on the ice and help their rebuilding. But I would certainly make them more relevant in the conversation. Patrick wellbeing. Man, if you're trying to get a new building and stir fans. Listen he likes to run the show. So you're going to bring Patrick is they're going to have to be willing to pay them, and they're going to have to be willing to allow him. The autonomy to be involved in a lot of different things. So we'll see if that anything comes to go to your, the tweets sat down the Greco hashtag game conduct and a couple of people Andrew mareo still kinda gravitating towards with J D being the president. Does this give the Rangers of better chance to get Erin? Well. It's hard to say I mean really the team that has the best chance to get Aaron is the place where he wants to go right? Yeah. Well, the Rangers have been rumored before. So I mean if he wants to come to New York, which is highly possible, I don't think the John. I don't think there's any like, you know, I think he's familiar with Davidson, so that's good. I think Davidson's familiar what, you know, the agent is looking for. So that's good some, you know, familiarity certainly helps but if the player is got a place that his mind that he'd like to go that I don't know if any of that matters. Now, the Rangers have some cap room. They have you know it's attractive place to play. Obviously certainly for someone like banana and who's already talked about the idea of maybe playing in a bigger market. So he played in Chicago to start starters career there's been some talk about, you know, the jolt one Ville connection in Florida would that be a place? I think that's more of a likely place for broths than Canarian. Are these? Is still tied to each other. I don't I don't necessarily think that's true. I think they've got to do both. I think find the best deals for for themselves and whatever market it is there are represented by the same guy now. So that. You know, that's part of the equation as well. That's the way of sports, right? Look. What's happening with the jets? Right. You find out that, that gay says the same agent as the quarterback and the quarterback has the same agent as who's rumored to be the next GM. It's like you. So that seems to be the way of the world now. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. So. But we'll see. I mean, again, I think that those connections to Panara and I don't think will hurt. I don't know if they help if the Rangers are going to be a suit or I don't know if there are any huge health, either, I think that your familiarity, but all the managers have already with the different agents, you know, and I'm have, you know, really good relationships with the different guys. So, but it seems like he's going to market. I think the Rangers are an attractive place and they have the wherewithal to make it happen. But it just depends upon if they want to celebrate that rebuild that stage or or they feel like they're comfortable moving, you know, two different pace. Chris wants to know what a second Stanley Cup championships cement. Patrice Berge Ron for a hall of Famer I think he's kind of he's a hall of Famer now but, you know, I think, yeah, I guess you wanna say would cement and sure I have a second Stanley Cup. I just think it sends such a really terrific player for such a long time. I mean you gotta go back to the two thousand three draft when he came into the league and what some concussion issues. Remember some pretty significant ones Williams. Here and he's just going on to have an unbelievable career. So, you know, for me, I would I see him as a hall of Famer now but certainly winning a second Stanley Cup would go a long way to moving him forward in that regard now, Brad has an interesting tweet because it was thrown out to me. I don't know if it was Brad or somebody else last week to give my mount Rushmore of hockey play by play announcers. And I couldn't come up with a fourth right eye. Doc Emmer to me, definitely I put Gary Thorne there because growing up devil fan. But also he called some big games when he SPN ABC had the, the rights, and I thought, he and Bill Clement made a great team. And there's a lot of fans that's still that's still resonates with them. And I put Bob Cole, you know, the longtime announcer him in Harry Neale were great doing hockey night in Canada. Any problem with those three anybody else would add? Or could you could you think of a fourth? I would absolutely have as my first guy, Dan Kelly Viggo. I mean, then Kelly to me and I mean I'm a little older than you. But that I missed. He was the voice of hockey in the US for for a bunch of years there in the in the seventies and eighties. And, and obviously prior to that in Saint Louis. So, you know, Dan, Kelly was, I mean like I said growing up when I grew up Dan Kelly was the guy. So I mean doc Emrick than it would be certainly. On that list. I don't really have a big problem with, with Gary Thorne or Bob Cole. I mean, there's been a lot of guys that are great. I mean, I think you'd have to consider, maybe for sure you it just because of the herreid at fall there before our time for sure. Yeah. Maybe not you, but definitely me. Johnny. But, you know, he is a legendary figure in play by play broadcasting and hockey night in Canada. So I mean a there's a number of guys who do a great job. I mean as I said to you many times, I think you do a terrific job called again. So, you know, and just keep getting better off. Thank you. And I I just felt uncomfortable giving like current announcers it kills a Kenny Kenny span. Tastic I've always been a big fan of John Wiedeman. I think he does a great job too. So anyway, Brett tweeted, would I consider Chuck Keeton, and do I have any good Chuck eight and stories? And as much as I really love the Carolina. Ron it bothered me that Chuck wasn't involved in it. And I really thought he was done dirty by what happened there in, in Carolina. But I I've said that, you know, while ago so we could forget that, but any good, Chuck ain't stories, other than the fact that John Forslund does an amazing impression of Chuck as which is great. Chuck Chuck, I've got a few but the one that I remember the most is for me was in the Nick you with my twins. And I spent a lot of time. They're trying to watch as much hockey as I could my ipad because, but unfortunately, you know, you got to have a real strong signal to watch otherwise, so I listened to a lot and the, the Oilers and, and Kirk Hanes were in Edmonton. So I was listening to the Chuck's call. So I just kind of text explained my situation, you know, hey I just had twins. And I'm listening to you and he immediately got back to me, wasn't even like after the game was like during play homos. Then it's tough for a guy that does games by himself, you know, in just so happy for me and anytime I went out there, he was the go-to interview, and I know he was the one that got inducted Sam Rosen. And just a couple of years ago because he's the guy that puts all that stuff together for the hall of fame, but my memories of Chuck E. As it announced just, just salt of the earth guy, always helpful, always fun to talk to, and it's really a shame. He couldn't have been a part of that hurricanes run this year. Yeah, and Trump is a terrific guy doing that broadcast all along. You know it's funny. You mentioned that game. I think I remember that game. They like Cam ward like still has. And, and got the reason. I remember it is that we, we don't we pick the games every day. Right. On the NHL, and that would be what we call the shootout. And there was eleven games on the schedule that day and I had gotten all ten right. Leading that game and I had. So I'm watching it intently that night. And I guess I think I must've liked the Oilers to win and Cam ward was the difference. I mean it made like fifty something saves of the game. And the Oilers ended up losing, we're we're canes on that particular night. But that's odd that, that would be the game that, that you were listening to on the reassess stuff. But Chuck guy, he's, he's been a great was a great broadcaster for a long time, and who knows maybe he'll turn up again somewhere else. I know he's still interested in doing it if the right opportunity comes on now about this just to show you that hockey and game is conduct can bring people together, at least from a friendship standpoint. Tom, Tom piece sports who always tweets about the Blackhawks got together at a Yankee game recently with Courtney, the ranger fan and they. Oh, yeah. And they went to a Yankee game and watch it together. So I don't know if something's going there. Air or whether they're just friends or you know. I don't know. I mean we can help that along, but they they they're they sit. They looked pretty cozy in the picture know all re tweet it for everybody right now, if you want to look at it, and that would be something if game is conduct were to lead to people getting together, maybe we can go the wedding, if it had downfall. I would hope that, that would be I would think an invitation would be a foregone conclusion. Yeah. Yeah. Almost think we should be in the wedding, when you think about it. I don't know how many friends Tom has or how big a party wants to put together, but come on. Or what about what about Courtney's friends bombing to be in the wedding amount? I don't want to be a bridesmaid. I. Okay. All right. Thanks. You do a lot better to be honest with you. Dave the goat cheese. Just Tom informed. If this is just a friendship, we won't push it. But, you know, if there's a chance for them we like to people do that. Listen, fred. We liked friendship. They're wrong with friendship. But if it would develop beyond that, you know, the it'd be like, just interesting to know about it just keep us invites all ask, and the whole thing may be named future children after us, that'd be lovely well, Courtney keep us informed. Ok more more to come. They're limited and they're going. I mean I just went to the game. Oh, I can just we'll find out believe me. They'll be a tweet tomorrow. Jay text me. I'll let you know forward all the information for sure, right? I will know the matchup by next Monday, Monday, actually starts game once I know you'll be traveling so you'll be in Boston. Can you carve out a little time for us Monday in Boston? I think I can okay. I will definitely figure it out. All right. Oaklawn buddy. I'll talk to you later. Got it. All right. That's the great EJ Radic NHL now. And of course, they'll be traveling for the Stanley follows. Well, so keep it tuned to the NHL network for everything EJ over the next couple of weeks is the Stanley Cup final will begin Monday from Boston. Either against the blues or the sharks either way, it will begin on in Boston on Monday, so no no game tonight. This would have been a game between the Bruins and hurricanes. But that's over. So tomorrow, we'll get you a nice preview for that game. Get a little information about that. Just get you get you started out for, for what is going to be a game six where the blues of a chance to go to the final of the first time since nineteen seventy and the sharks trying to force a game of back in San Jose on Wednesday on Thursday. So we'll see how it all works out back with again tomorrow. Thanks for everybody, tweeting, always great. If you wanna get in touch them easy way to do it at Donald brecca hashtag game has conduct talk to you game tomorrow. This is or this was the Monday edition of game his conduct. Listening to gain misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb record? Hear him on the Michael case show, weekdays from three to seven PM on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. Don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Weekend Recap

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Weekend Recap

"The. Gained misconduct podcast with Don. League-record and welcome to the Monday edition of game is conduct. I am Don McGregor. It's great to have EJ back on a Monday from NHL now Monday through Friday from four to six eastern on NHL network. How are you buddy? I'm good Donny. How are you? Paul good. I made by flight back from Los Angeles. Everything is peachy nailbiter. Not good though for the Rangers. That's a bad loss. That's a really bad loss yesterday against the Los Angeles Kings team. The quite frankly is not very good a kings team that lost six consecutive games at king's team was outscored twenty nine to eight in those six games, and you blow a two goal lead. The coach was beside himself after the game. I know it's not about this year. But I think the disturbing thing for me is it's not like you're developing an entire roster of kids. You've got heat will you've got Houten you've got Bush in his third year. So it's not like you've got a bunch of kids on the roster this team that's still should be fairly competitive with a world class goaltender and we're talking about a team that's three seven and one. So I have to think that the Rangers are pretty disappointed. We're things all right now. Well, I mean, there's going to be paying right? When you flip over your roster, and you add new people to it. You're right. I mean, you know advantage out as a player that's been legal while zuccarello is obviously been here awhile and quieter. But he the veteran for sure by now. Yeah, you know, they've got, you know, a number of players, you know, marched all been around for a long time your goal. He's got a lot of experience. So yeah, you you're disappointed when you're not able to close out games like that. But. You know, this league is closed. It takes a little bit stake that couple of penalties. Give power play goal. You know, L A didn't get did get around back in the lineup. So that was good news for them. And they just found a way to win. I mean, I I know watching the kings that play the Minnesota wild a couple nights earlier Minnesota they got three consecutive power plays in the last seven minutes of the game. And couldn't sworn any of them including the last one when they had the goalie out and it was six on four. So LA has been really struggling. But. What goes around comes around sometimes LA found a way to win. And you know, the radio. That game. Now just to put it in perspective the kings came into that game against the Rangers. Thirty first on the power plate eight point eight percent. I know Brown coming back certainly helped. But that's to go two or three on the power play the way the kings. Did get back into the game on the power play. A bit of a problem talking to people around Los Angeles. There's legitimate concern around Jonathan quick this is his second lower body injury different than the one that he had earlier was not performing. Well, when he was in the lineup them is it on the table that he might be done. Well, I don't know about being done. I mean, but let's face it. He plays with a he plays different than a lot of goalies. And got that great explosion, you know, across the net and guys like that are subject to injury issues, and he's already had some significant one. And now it only apparently has another one. So I would think there's a lot. There would be a lot of concern there. I mean, he's an important piece of their team. He's on a long term deal know corporately Jack Campbell who didn't play great against the Rangers. But he's played. Okay. And the other game four claves dental. He's done. Okay. But clearly the LA kings. It's going to be a challenge of China. The quick is not going to be part of things. And I think there should be concerned. Just because the way he plays, and it's hard to sustain that when you have those different groin than lower body injuries over the time they take their toll. Now, the other big story. Austin Matthews going to be out for the next four weeks. I mean, how killer is this. And also, how do you attach this then the negotiations? With knee Lander, or do you do I don't I don't, you know, because I think that's certainly a money dowry recap issues that the team has knowing their long-term pitcher, and where they see him fitting in to things. So I mean, I don't think it really has anything to do with it. And how it could have you know, if the betrayal may police in the next month rattle off a bunch of losses. And there's a lot of roar in Toronto. Then I get public pressure plays a part and thing and that could impact. But I don't think it will. I think the what the the babies are lucky. They have they just lied nauseam Qadri up a slot. He's guys scored thirty goals in two seasons for that team. Jon Taveras that there. So he becomes the becomes the one Qadri becomes the two. And you know, they move forward in that regard. So obviously lose off the Matthew's great news, but their position with having Taveras and Qadri as your one two punch to still be very competitive and try to get through the next month. Yeah. That's all you can do. Right. And it just. Stinks. I think just in the hockey world. You just hate losing talented players and not being able to watch you know, that kind of thing that was fun on you. You're worrying for Matthews because. Yeah, he had a shoulder injury of some sort last year. I know going back to his time as a junior player he had a shoulder problem. Then now, he's got notice shoulder issue. I mean, I think they've been different sides different shoulders. So, but yeah, I'm sure, you know, it's not great for us. And I mean, he got off to a great start. This year is a big piece of what's going on in Toronto. You hate to see any player like that being out of the lineup. But they're definitely position to be to be okay at least for next month. Yeah. Because it just so much fun. Just seeing all these different matchups, and and just how much fun it is to see in the jets and how electric that was on Saturday. And of course, when they played each other in Winnipeg that game on NBC sports net back on Wednesday. I mean, it's really been a lot of fun and the the ratings weren't bad when you consider there was two Canadian teams. So it's no law local market to. To draw from so things women the right direction, but you want to keep these guys healthy. So hopefully Matthews his back sooner than later, and it doesn't affect them too much. But that was a great game on sad. Really? By both games that I thought were great the Wednesday game Winnipeg again spots a team a three goal lead. They fight back lose the game. And and then you saw another great game where the leaf squirrelly goal to beat the jets some maybe that can develop into a a little bit of rivalry again. They're not in the same conference. But still a lot of fun when they get together. Yeah. I mean, and that's you know, when you look at the big picture league. I mean, that's the potential Stanley Cup. Final up at some point. That's two years. You never know if you're gonna get it. But certainly there's potential for that the jets have, you know, they're loaded with talent there. I mean, I've been kind of scratching my head a little bit about you know, why they haven't been maybe even a little bit better to start the season. But it's a real good team. And we know the Toronto's loaded up front, they maybe a short that back end at some point. But yeah, those are good when good team. Get together. And you see that kind of really high end back and forth type of game makes for a really entertaining. Hockey at one point do we start taking the Canadian seriously or we beyond that point. Now, I think Nancy's onto something there. That's why why fan I know. And you know, I think she probably read the riot act. Listen, we can't have it. I just can't have this. I got two little ones here and to see, you know, the team, but it's going to be more competitive here. Baseball team's been lousy the last couple years. You're right. Maybe this is she. She might have something to do with this. She said that's enough with this stuff, but you know, closure usually in know. You know, they've come in with settlement us against the world mentality. Like a lot of teams, do you know who's been written off everybody written off the Montreal Canadians? This year look at the roster not going to be good enough. That's drawn down the middle. Weak on defense and. The line, but they made some changes in the off season or a little bit of playing much faster game close Yuli in this coachie a little bit to his to his roster as opposed to maybe the way that he's coached in the past. And these guys are really pushing. Opponents on their heels. And you know, you watch and watching the game against the Bruins the other night, this the Bruins hadn't been paying attention to what Montreal's do it. I mean, like if you watch the Montreal Canadians today's I ten or so games this year. I mean, they are playing with much more pace to their games. They're pushing defenders back, you know, they're sending defenceman zone. They are trying to you know, play a different way this year. And it's so far it's been very successful. I mean, they went into Boston and shut out the Bruins. And it wasn't one of those games where Carey price had to make like fifty great saves quite well. But you know, I it did a nice job of team played well in front of them. They really pushed them back to wins over the penguins this year, which are good wins. I think that seen the NBA was actually in gold for both those wins for the Canadian. So we'll see how long they can keep it going. I mean, max Domi is come out and playing great. He's already got five goals. He had nine in each of the last two seasons in Arizona. So he's been rejuvenated job and drooling with his speech. Pills been fun to watch the their cars come over from bagels. And he was kind of a guy that just didn't fit after going to Vegas from Detroit. Now, he's kinda got new life as well. Paul Byron as a perfect skater and kind of push your back on your heels, Brennan Gallagher's or paying the next painted extra play against and they're getting enough out of their defense and carry prices been very good when he's been in there. So I'll be curious to see the next ten games if they can continue to be a team that can continue to push forward. I just think it's tough in that division because. He's still got Boston. Toronto and Tampa that are clearly the top three teams that divisions. Are good news for them is that the Florida Panthers are off to a tough start. And you know, so that opened them a little bit. It'll be interesting to watch the Canadians over the next ten or so to kind of see where they fall in with everybody else. But right now, they've been fun to watch. And they're very very competitive. And like, I say you've closed you a lot of credits reach up you mentioned a Panthers and they got killed by the Rangers. They did come back and beat the islanders loss to the devils. And now they gotta go on this global series to play. Winnipeg this pro I don't know is that a good time or a bad time when you're struggling hockey team to get on a flight nine hours away and go play in Europe. Well, maybe if you were playing, you know, LA kings or somebody ogling, maybe not Winnipeg. But they'll play the Winnipeg Jets who have a lot of talent. I mean, I don't know if that's the best thing for you. But you know, the Panthers disappointing start. There's no other way to say the the goaltender the big problems right now with Lonzo being out with relying on James Ryan Ruth been inconsistent best. And then you have Michael really to be is H O both Ed or so, you know, this is a real challenge for this team. I watched against the Rangers that didn't think they had a lot of jam in the game. Just doesn't seem there. You know that the scratch and claw like they need to be at this point. Especially for team that started off slow last year it ended up costing them. And it's the blast at one point. But it's not been a good start for the pounds. And you know, hopefully, they get over there. And they they can they can kind of get things together. And they're gonna have a challenge let's face it. The one thing. A strong team. So you know, they could conceivably lose both of those games. And they're looking at a two six and three start. I don't think that's what they were over for their first eleven games man players. Do look forward sometimes to bond a little bit on the road. But it's not like Florida's been playing exclusively at home and they've been losing on the road as well. You've been on the road a lot. They were in New York for weakness. Devils and then off to off to Europe. So we're up to Scandinavia to go play in Finland. So not, you know, the they've had a chance to bond, maybe you get home who knows? But they need the thing. They need is Roberta Longo to be healthy and playing well right now, that's not. That's not happening. You know, a couple of things before we go to the tweet CJ. I struggled on Friday when I did the podcast analyzing John's IGLA certainly feel bad that he passed away. Very nice, man. I got to meet him. I want to say about maybe ten years ago at one of the all star games might have been Dallas where we saw him in the lobby of the hotel. But out reminiscing about his tenure, and I just don't think it was good. I know he orchestrated the merger with the WHAT. You make a case that that was not well done. He gave none of those four teams a chance to compete, and I realize that the owners are the ones that really save because they had Gretzky, but they really stripped Winnipeg down Quebec, I mean, those teams were stripped down considerably, and of course, Gretzky would they're able to hold on the Gretzky and Edmonton was able to excel. But my point is I look at those the dark ages of the NHL I remember him being away during the whole scandal between Boston and New Jersey in the conference final and eighty eighty was hunt vacation, I mean, I know it's difficult to analyse Commissioner slash presidents because they work for the owners, and there's only so much the owners can do and back in those days pre expansion the owners were very content with the way things were going. The cared about themselves. They weren't really as concerned about expanding the league unless it meant more money in their pocket, just like every other sport. But as much as everybody kills the current regime with with Gary Bettman, this sport exploded, once Gary to go over, you know, Gil Stein leaves Bettman comes in, and I'm not trying to be a chauffeur, Gary because I know him, but if you look at the past with Campbell and Ziegler there was dinosaurs prehistoric he'll and the refusal to expand and to grow. I think falls on the feet of those guys in when bet was able to come in. He came in with an MBA attitude to expand it, so I'm not spitting on the man's grave. I'm just saying that when we analyze his tenure I do not look at that is a great time in the history of the National Hockey League. Well, I mean, I think there was probably ups and downs in as part of his tenure as there would be with anyone I think that it was a different era for sure in sports. And in the world and television, and the way we view things, and I don't know if the NHL was really ready for too much expansion during that window from the late seventies to the early nineties. I would say you could criticize the league and the way they did things for the you know, the way they ran the the television of package, and I think that they were on it might have been on ESPN, and they went to sports channel America. I think was somewhere in that window, and then they came back ESPN. So I mean, those are things that you know, you would look at it. I think you're right. When you say, I mean, the owners are the ones that really at the end of the day, we're on the show. I mean, and the it's always it's always a different, you know, different Aaron different way just think he was president not the Commissioner rights. So that sells you something right there. He's been in insurance for many many years, but it will to kinda crew power over that time. And so it's just I think it's a different world. And you know, I think John Ziegler was the man at that time, and he was kind of a guardian for the owners, but I don't think he has nearly the the power that the Commissioner holds today in the National Hockey League. So I think that there's room for criticism to your point. And I think there's probably some things that he was able to help hold together at a time. When again things were different business was different the world is different. Now. You know, it's the thing about, you know, I I can remember that whole thing with the devils to when they were into in whole they have with Jim Schoenfeld. And and he was off in Europe. That was not a good look for the National Hockey League for sure, but there was other things that John Ziegler was a was a positive force in for hockey. And you know, when Gary Bettman came in it really just did did take off. And I think Gary deserves a lot of. Edit. More than people are willing to give them sometimes especially fans. They don't understand that. That's really the business and the way things I'm grown dramatically in the last twenty twenty five years. Now, speaking of that growth, the NHL announces today a partnership with MGM resorts. So you're starting to see these commissioners now embrace gambling the NFL not so much, but but the rest of the sports realizing that this is an avenue it's legalized now in Canada in New Jersey, different parts of the country. I mean, I think it's time to recognize this. I get that there are pitfalls. I never asked you how you felt about it. But I think this is a brave new world. And I think it's important for these sports to embrace it. Yeah. Hey, listen, stay out. Right. So it's I think you have two choices you can stick your head in the sand or you can try to get a piece of the action so to speak, and I think it's probably wise through the ladder. This is another potential, you know, big revenue stream for hockey. And you know, let's face it. The NFL one of the things that has made the NFL so popular over the years of a number of things. That kind kinda fall in their favor is the fact that people like the battle took ballgames and if now with legalize yeah, blowing if people are betting on hockey games. And that means they're going to have more interest in watching hockey games that could that could nothing but good well the National Hockey League. So, you know, this is the world we live in two thousand eighteen it is legal to do it in New Jersey. I could sit on my phone, and I gave tonight. No, I think it's only, you know, I think it's really smart for the league to be involved in that. And we'll see over time if they can grow that revenue stream into something pretty significant. All right. Let's do some tweets before we get the dodge ready. So let's go. All right. Let's go to Mike Lisa's great weekend for the islanders with back to back wins. Love the way Lee is playing with more of a playmaker role to start the season off. And it's paying off. Do you see this continuing with the points? He's producing with that top line of Nelson and Bailey, well has been the last couple of years just shown he can score goals writing. Among the top goals scores in the NHL for the last two or three seasons. So he's just doing what he's been doing. I said it last year done. You know, I said it a bunch of times are different discussions. We had the problem. Really? Shouldn't be scorned too many goals. They have guys that can that can provide off and the problem for the islanders keeping the puck out of that and goaltending and so far with very cross behind the bench. They've they've tightened up their system and the goaltenders were pretty good. So for me about a Robin Leonard. Or is it nine twenty nine and Thomas crisis at nine thirty four. I mean, those are really good safe percentages. So, you know, Andrew's Lee is the captain he's playing he's just continuing on. It's not wasn't the only because he was playing with John Devaras. He's a great athlete, and it'd really good hockey player and the capitalist team in the honors rewires the probably get him under contract on a long term deal, which I'm sure they will Phoenix jet says, Don EJ coyotes are looking good and got goals coming and amongst the least in shots goals against and shots at scored more shorties. Than powerplays given up. Do you think this team is starting to turn the corner? Thanks good. Luck buddies. Well, well, good luck to him as well. They Clayton Keller starting to play better and trying to score. So that's a plus. They just got killed check back in the lineup. That's a plus they're missing divorce still. So when they get him back that'll be helped that'd be helpful Dylan's dramas starting to be a helpful player not much production so far. But you know, he's starting to be a more helpful guy. The D is in bad. I got some veterans back there. Roth and Kemper played pretty well. They didn't they didn't score in the first five or six games. Now. They're starting to score goals. So they've got some good young players in their system in Arizona. You know, I think we're cock it and Johnny Mack. And Scotty, Al the coaching stuff down. There is a nice job. But you know, listen to competitively and they're going to have to prove it time and time and time again over the course of season for you know, if they're gonna make a push up the standings. But I think the bigger picture is that they've got some good young players in their group. They have a chance to get better. Jeff Dee says I want to say this is the best podcast out there and Hello to E J. And then after. Then after watching then after watching the highlights and the Oilers the last few games, even with the overtime loss to the pens. It seems as though they are finally finding themselves. What your thoughts? Well, they're six one in one of their last eight games. And I mean, there was a real nerves in that organization. After losing those first two games of the season. They lost the over in tweeden to the devils and they lost in Boston. And then they came into play into Madison Square Garden got a win there. They've really been finding ways to win games. I mean, they they beat Nashville in Nashville on Saturday. You gotta win in Chicago. But it's night and mcdavid has been great. As always the, you know, dry Seidel nugent-hopkins. Those are the guys that are leading the way that for that team. Together defense has been good enough. And Cam Talbot has been good enough so far so their power play. Which was like they were dead last last year is is is revived this year as you're thinking would be when you have the, you know, the. Dave is the dry side. So it's up in the top third in the league this year. So that's certainly better. Penalty killing still not great. But better than it was. So it will say the they've they've they're they're feeling good about things. I think a lot of it with the Oilers is like with a lot of things it's gonna come down to. To Cam Talbot and goal if he can continue to play well and give them a chance to win. That's great right now. Then this stretch they're running into a bunch of backup goalie, you know, in terms of, you know, Chicago played Cam ward and not Corey Crawford. Now Cam ward played well, but still you know, it was they didn't play their stored or you know, Soros is in now because of injury so against Nashville they got sorrows and that game. I mean, you know, they're they're taking advantage of those things and they're feeling good about their team. After last year. The fact that they could come up with a six one in one run at a really tough schedule. There's a lot of the way that they're feeling about their group. So we'll just have to keep an eye on over the next thing. I ten or eleven games they've had a nice scratch here. What can they do in the next ten games to really make us feel better about the? But they've got the best player in Connor mcdavid. I mean the most dynamic player and he's playing well wearing Jones says I've said it before. But I love the addition of Ryan rally to the blues do think that coach yo or yo excuse me is on the hot seat. Yeah. Well, he did it. You know, he said it as much I mean after losing to I think it was Columbus the other day that like, hey, I should be my job should be on the line. I think Ryan rallies played really well for the blues. They've got a number of problems. They're they're not defending. Well, they seem slow. They're not willing to commit to these younger guys in the lineup. Like, Robert Thomas, for example, a high end Jim prospecting a group and they've had him as a healthy scratch for a bunch of games watching them. And I think he got back in. But like they've got I think they've got to commit to these younger guys, which is tough for coaching staff because let's face it, Mike, yo and Craig ruby those guys in Saint Louis her behind the bench, and they're worried about keeping their own jobs. But now they're trying to win the game today. They're not worried about hey, the bigger picture. Let's play these younger guys. Let's start to get them as part of our team as important Porterbrook group. So I think they're a little bit Twix between in Saint Louis. Their some of their key players. Alex re-translates really struggling right now out of the gate chaebol Easter maybe coming to the end of the line. He was a healthy scratch. Last week. You know, coal break. Oh, it's not look really great on defense. And you know, it's been challenge so far. So there have been one of the more disappointing things. I thought they were going to be better on paper. But it just hasn't played out that one it's still early, but that's such a competitive division. You really dig yourself a hole with Chicago not really going away Nashville Winnipeg some outstanding teams there. So, you know, Colorado's playing they are. Golly. Even even coming off the loss over the weekend. They're just playing some terrific hockey that line of ranted, Atlanta's Scoggins McCann. And we've talked about it before has been threatening. You know, what's really coming down to? It's not quite close to the NBA yet. But you get need skill. He need those difference maker players systems are nice playing together as a team all those things are important. Don't get me wrong. But sometimes you just need a guy to just make a play. You know, and you just need stars. Somebody can score goals or you're absolutely right now, we're getting out we're getting out play tonight. But you know, Crosby went out there and picked up a hat trick for us, and you know, mask a lot of our problems. I mean, that's the that's that's how you win consistently in this league. When you have those types of players, you become very difficult to play against no question. I love you. Jay. I love you too. And thank you. That's a new there. No, no. We're not breaking any new ground for sure which we wish we had some more time. But you know, we both got a wrong. So I'll talk to next week, buddy. You got it buddy part. That's a great EJ Radic. If you want more of EJ, all you have to do is turn on the NHL network between the hours of four and six eastern on the NHL network. Get a little hankering for some j we have Mary Monday when we can just a couple of games tonight. Flames leaves is the Leafs now embark on the next four weeks without their best player. Austin Matthews and the wild will be at the Vancouver Canucks connects back to even ground at six and six after a couple of losses while the wild or starting to warm up here at six two and two. 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Lord Stanley's Cup belong to St. Louis

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Lord Stanley's Cup belong to St. Louis

"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don the Greco and welcome to the Thursday edition of game has conduct. I am down the Greg, congratulations to the Saint Louis blues they win game seven last night. In Boston four to one. Here's the way it sounded on KOMO X in Saint Louis. Chris Kerber with historical team, that was in last place on January third. The players on the bed, sir bouncing up history. We'll be tonight in Boston. Fifteen seconds ago is Shan, walks up to the quarter ten seconds remaining. Get up Saint Louis get on your feet presume high five seconds to go and the time down. They did it. It's over his over this series is over. The wait is over the Saint Louis blues are the Stanley Cup champions for the first time franchise history. So congratulations to the blues unbeliev-. Qabail. There were talking about a team. There was in last place on January third lifting the Stanley Cup and there's a lot of things to unpack here. So let's start with the game itself. Okay. Boston's home the place is going nuts. But Saint Louis is really thrived on the road. And the reason for that is they can play their game more. It's not as reliant on the power play. It's not as reliant on feeding off the crowd. They just know how to win on the road. They did it in Winnipeg. They did it in Dallas. They did it in San Jose. They did it three times here in Boston. So they were not going to blink with the two wins already in their back pocket in game two excuse me in game early in the series when they got the the big game two victory in overtime. And then the way they were able to win game five in the fashion in which they did maybe some controversy. But still, I think overall where the better team. So going into game seven trying to win a third game in Boston. They were not going to blink. All right. Boston comes out plays. Well early. And they're dominating the Saint Louis had a little bit of a spurt early Rask made a good save. But then Boston turns it on big save after big save by Bennington, but a five fifty seven of the first period, Perenco throws one over the glass in your thinking. If you're a blues fan here we go. Boston best power play. It's been achilles heel for the blues all these play offs. It's not even a call. It's not even a controversial want. It's not even a late hit a hit to the head of boarding penalty a trip slash it's a it's a delay game. But the blues kill it off. And it was a huge play. And it looked like we were headed to a scoreless first period, which definitely would have been to the advantage of Saint Louis, but then Ryan O'Reilly, who has just been so good in these playoffs there leading score. He scores for the sixth consecutive game point. He is the first player since Mark Messier of a six game point streak in the final scores. The first goal for the blues for the fourth consecutive game at sixteen forty seven so they're going. Take a lead. You figure by one goal going into the second period. But then I thought a huge turning point one of a couple of turning points in this game portraying Gelo gets his third and it comes with eight seconds remaining in the first period. So Boston's the better team in the first period, they think for a while, they're at least going to be in a scoreless tie going into the second get their bearings in the first intermission, Kip, get the pedal to the metal get the blues thinking. Oh, are they going to be able to cracked the code Rask and all that? And are they going to be able to figure out Bennington and then a second goal late in the period? Just had to be an absolute crusher. But you go into the second period. Boston's comeback before all right, scoreless. Second period, also huge to not allow Boston to score going into the third period. But you still felt Boston could still be heard from they're going to score. They're going to have to score. They're gonna have to figure out Bennington. They're gonna make it a two one game. All the pressure's gonna be on Saint Louis at that point. But then it stays through nothing deeper and deeper in. Deeper into third period, than finally Hsien gets a great feed from Tarasenko at eleven twenty five pretty much puts it away. But it was the big big save on Nordstrom earlier on in that sequence that kept it a to nothing game Hsien makes it three nothing Samford gets his first ever postseason goal. What a story. He's been right. I mean, here's a guy wasn't playing gets a chance to play because of the suspension. Well Sundquist place so well he gets bumped up to the second line plays on the first line of times. And he gets a huge, huge goal the feet from Peron Peron's also a great story is third stint with the Saint Louis blues. O'reilly gets another point makes it for nothing. And then grizzly scores his first game back from the concussion make it four one that was at seventeen fifty. So all it did was diminished a possible, shutout from bidding ten and Saint Louis is able to go away and party pretty much the entire last few minutes of the game. And just know that they're gonna win their first Stanley Cup in. Franchise history Bennington again. Thirty to save. Some of them just tremendous. You could gave him the cons might trophy for sure. I think maybe the reason you don't he had a few stinkers in the playoffs but he always bounce back. Eight wins coming off of losses for Bennington in the Saint Louis blues, but of O'Reilly was a great choice scoring the first goal again scoring the first goal eight in that first period, which was huge. So he ends up getting an and just so many different storylines. We'll start with Oreilly. Here's a guy in Colorado and a lousy team in buffalo with a lousy team. Finally gets traded to the Saint Louis blues and he's on the blues. They're struggling can't get any goaltending. He's having a great year seventy seven points as best season in the National Hockey League but early on. He's thinking, I'm getting traded to a team. That's underachieving. Meanwhile, if you remember buffalo early in the year at one ten in a row, so Riley's probably thinking to himself. My god. Can I catch a break here? But then he's a part of what the second half ended up being. The blues he ends up winning the cons might trophy. What a story there. What a trade to wanted important person in many different important players for the Saint Louis blues, you have that story. You have the Jordan Bennington story, which really coincides with him getting called up. He's a Boston Bruin castoff. He's a minor leager. They throw them into the into the mix on January. Seventh makes his National Hockey League debut on a lousy hockey team. And he ends up being really the straw that stirs the drink. Although not right away. I, I mentioned it on this podcast, many times before talking to Darren Pang when the blues were in Madison Square Garden late in the year. And I said, I guess Bennington the guy, right? He must have really turned it around. And he said, no, I think more times than not, these skaters are carrying Bennington allowing him to get his his game going in, and certainly he became a major factor. But we credit the blues for kind of carrying him early and giving him a little bit of a spot a soft LA. Ending to get his bearings and then become the player that he ended up becoming could very easily won the cons might trophy. They've not win the Stanley Cup without him. There's no question about that. Goaltending. It always been the problem. But at the same Louis Blues, and then it brings it back to Craig ba-, ruby somebody that Darren Pang told me was the major reason but early on. It wasn't a move that worked yogurts, fired incomes. The ba- ruby in November, but the team doesn't seem to gain any traction, but then this story comes out that a lot of the players, just didn't understand Craig Ruby's way didn't know who he was. Vladimir Tarasenko was in Russia. He never saw BA ruby play. So the assistant coaches put together video of all the fights that Craig Berube had gotten into in his National Hockey League career and all that he had accomplished in the NHL trying to let the players know this guy is honest, this guy's got credibility. He would never ask you to do something to wouldn't go out there and do himself. And that one all of the players that took a little while. But at one all those. Players over so they were able to connect with their new head coach and who I think, is gonna long-term head coach with the Saint Louis blues and put it together. So that was a major turning point for this franchise. It took some time but patients was the virtue both in goal and in the coaching change two major factors while this team was able to win. Let's not forget about two very important people that it's easy to forget about Dave Taylor his contributions to this team. The former Los Angeles king putting his fingerprints on building this team. How about Larry Robinson talk about a forgotten figure? There is a consultant for the defenseman a guy that wanna Cup as a player wanna cop as a head coach and now really helping that blue line come together. And a major reason why the Saint Louis blues were able to bounce back and win games. And really bringing guys like portraying Gelo together. Parang go back together. Again. Bom Easter who had never played for a chance to win a Stanley Cup almost the thirteen hundred games and his National Hockey League career finally gets the lift. The Stanley Cup. Larry Robinson deserves a lot of credit there. Now we go back to being the worst team in the National Hockey League on January third. All right. That is a bit of a misnomer because you can say what you want about the regular season being meaningless because the team could be the worst team in the league on January third and win the Cup. But let's not forget going back to the O'Reilly deal. The O'Reilly deal with buffalo was made because the blues believed that they could be a Cup contender their achilles heel all season long. And really all decade-long has been able to find that goal tender. And when they finally found it and bidding tin came together. So it's a little bit different than your average team. That is bad. And then they make the playoffs. This was supposed to be a Cup team that just needed the writing gradient and bidding ten ended up being the writing. Gradient also not dating. Go from the worst team in the National Hockey League to barely making the playoffs. This team made a significant enough run to me to really show. How amazing turnaround was it? What I believe is the best division in the National Hockey League. The central will you've got teams like Minnesota and Chicago who missed the plows, but teams that met made the playoffs like Colorado, like Dallas Nashville of Winnipeg two of the best teams in the NHL going into these playoffs. They were able to contend with those teams in that division in that tough schedule to be able to go from the worst team in the league all the way up to actually on the last day of the regular season having possession of first place. The blue set a day game the last day of the season they won that game and resided in first place in the best of vision in the league going into. The night games Nashville and Winnipeg won their games as well. And then you saw Nashville win the division Winnipeg peg finished in second place. But seeing Louis made that turn around remorse to I on the last day of the season, and then beat Winnipeg would great come come from behind victories. Be Dallas in really hard fought series beat San Jose pummel, San Jose into the ground when many people leave. They were the best team in the way and kind of an afterthought going against the big bad Boston. Bruins who are looked upon as the second best team in the league next to the Tampa Bay Lightning but was since Tampa anyone a game in the playoffs the Bruins became the team to beat certainly in the Eastern Conference if not all the National Hockey League and despite being down to one to Columbus ended up going rough shot the rest of the way winning the rest of the games against the blue jackets, sweeping narrow gains. So they went into the Stanley Cup final like a house on fire with one of the top lines of the National Hockey League with Berge. Ron Marsh, an impostor knock with to Iraq playing out of his head with a blue line that. I've been berry effective throughout the year, the hall of Famer chara McEvoy playing great Carlo playing great. And they lose to the Saint Louis blues. So this story is just an incredible one. And we've had a lot of questions about sustainability for the blues moving forward, which is something that's really kind of unfair to talk about. When you consider the fact that they just won the cop, but of Bennington surreal, and he's not like a Cam ward, or is not kind of a flash in the pan, like John Kerry, if this or Jim Carrey, excuse me, if he is going to be a really good goaltender in this league, then I think the Saint Louis blues or team to contend with tough division setting Chicago's on the come Colorado might be one of the best teams of the National Hockey League. Dallas doesn't look like it's going anywhere Winnipeg in Nashville all the teams they have to contend with incentive. But the same Louis Blues of the only team among those that could say that they've won the Stanley Cup in twenty nineteen and are the defending Stanley Cup champions ratings, tremendous, six point two nearly seven million people in the United States. Watch that game seven a terrific, terrific showing for for the national. Hockey League for sure. So all the controversy all the garbage that we went through. I think the right team won the championship because you can talk about how the blue the Bruins were job in game five and how maybe they should have had three to lead going into game six but they had a game seven in their building and they got blown out and they got blown out because they could not figure out Jordan bidding ten and that was a major story in this game. But the blue Bruins should hang their head. Pretty high too had a terrific playoff run for sure even today. No char were decide to retire. They're still very deep on the blue line. They pasternack emerged as a clear superstar in this league. Debrusk has a huge future as a player in this league marshawn Berge. Ron aren't going anywhere either. I think they're exceptionally well coached in Bruce Cassidy, so the Boston Bruins got to contend with Tampa team that's going to be back next year. And I think in the clearly Vegas has already shown the odds of five to one favorite to win the Stanley Cup, which are the best. Odds of any team in the National Hockey League. But you gotta feel pretty good about their futures. Well so what a great year for the National Hockey League upsets turmoil controversy, but some tremendous individual efforts in a great a great seven game series are I seven game series since twenty eleven and just an incredible incredible night in Saint Louis. Congratulations to those fans enjoy it. You never know if it's going to happen again, but of the other six of the original six and the other six to came in, in the sixty seven sixty eight season and putting the California golden seals aside, because they obviously folded before they're able to accomplish anything the other five teams. The blues were the one team that hadn't won the Cup yet build one there. Two cups in the mid seventies. And eventually the north stars became the Dallas Stars won their Cup in nineteen ninety nine the Los Angeles Kings back the of their first championship at twenty twelve by going out two years later and winning their second Stanley Cup. Championship the Pittsburgh Penguins of in the most dominant of all of the other six franchises, that came in, in sixty seven sixty eight and now the Saint Louis blues can finally call themselves a Stanley Cup champion a great game great effort. And just a lot of fun to be able to cover it and talk about it with you here on gay misconduct. Are let's hear from you at down the Greco. Hashtag game is conduct. I'm sure there's a lot of people who want to chime in about that game and just about what is was an incredible season. A Marriott says, hey, Don hope you're having a good day. The blues are victorious. Would you say that this game seven was very similar to the one Vancouver eight years ago, I would say it definitely was, of course, Boston winning that game on the road four nothing as opposed to four one. But again, it would they were just two minutes and ten seconds away from getting that exact same score. It's tough you go seven games. And, and you got the home ice advantage. But, you know, we had Kevin shattenkirk on the Michael can show yesterday. And I just asked them. Why is it that teams have success? It's in the postseason on the road as opposed to other sports. And he just said, it's, it's just a different vibe. You get the stick to hockey right. I mean you're more regimented on the road than you are when you're home when you're home, you're dealing with your kids. You're dealing with your family, but people bugging, you particulars and everything changes on the road. You're, you're the hotel, you're with the team everybody's together. You have your meal beforehand altogether. You go in. You don't have to worry about the fans jumping your own fans jumping, you. That's one thing that I think was a great advantage to the blues. Is that failing on a power play? They knew that they weren't disappointing. Their crowd. You wanna hear boos because that means you're doing well when you're on the road, so they were I think able to feed off the road crowd, and they just they're minded me a lot of the devils of ninety five the won all those games on the road, Saint Louis really became just road warriors throughout these playoffs. That's a major reason they won. But a good job by mareo last time we had a game seven similar result road team winning a going away. And as a matter of fact, the last three. Three game sevens. Two thousand nine twenty eleven in the last night. The road team has won game seven so clearly home-ice advantage, which we always thought meant having that advantage and a possible game seven. That's John Torello used to talk about is that home. Ice doesn't mean anything until you get to a game seven will there's three Stanley Cup final game sevens in a row. But the road team won Tony says I'm proud of my fellow hockey fans. Highest rated game in thousand five years. Great night for the sport people came together. It's a game seven there were great storylines here. I think it helped the little bit that the York no Mets no Yankees at the number one market in the country. Maybe a lot of people in New York able to drive of the rating, but really for sport that does get beat up a lot for just not being that great of a television sport. That was a tremendous night last night. David says now the Saint Louis finally has the Cup which franchise that has never wanted has the best chance to become the next blues Vancouver. Buffalo Florida Arizona. Minnesota Columbus Ottawa Winnipeg Nashville, San Jose. Or Vegas, those of the teams. Well Vancouver's kind of in a rebuild. So's. Buffalo florida. I think it'll be a quick one with Joel Quenneville. They've got a lot of talent there for sure arena. There's talent they almost made the playoffs last year. I think Minnesota's on bit of downcycle Ottawa's got a few years left to go. So I think kind of comes down to Columbus Nashville, San Jose in Vegas. Those are the four teams and I would say the teen that's got the best chance right now when you look at it, we'll see what happens with the Winnipeg Jets with Kevin Hayes is not coming back. Obviously, I think Winnipeg is still very much in the conversation, Columbus. It's hard to really say they're in the conversation when you don't know what's going to happen. We'll prophecy and Panara n-, so Nashville, still very good San Jose. They're likely gonna lose Carlson. Joe Thornton may, retire. They're getting a little long in the to there. So Vegas Nashville Winnipeg between those three I would say Winnipeg maybe has the best chance. But I think those are the three teams you narrow it down to of the list. That you gave there forever t h s thank you for all of the content and a great season on the podcast. Definitely one of my favorites. Also, where would you rank Bennington performance in game seven and all time lists of clutch goalie games while there's plenty of them for sure. That's gotta rank right up there, because some of those shots of the thirty three face were very very high quality. I know Cam ward, as a rookie tremendous job in two thousand and six I remember what a great game seven that he had at home. You go back to a Mike. Richter was able to accomplish in game seven against Vancouver and also stopping the penalty shot if you remember earlier in that series but you talk about game sevens Obrador. I thought played great, even though he was out shined in two thousand and three by j as she gear who won the Conn Smyth of Oprah door was so clutch in that game seven there, there's a lot of ones that rank up there, but considering where Bennington was before January. Seventh I'm sure if you were able to tell him. On January seventh making his NHL debut, not even getting a rookie camp with the Saint Louis blues that, hey, by the way, we're gonna fast forward, six months from now. You're going to be playing in a game seven and becoming the star of a game. And helping the blues win a Stanley Cup. Nobody would have believed that. So if you wanted to rank number one, I think that would be huge go back to Ken Dryden, back in seventy one that would be clutch for sure as a rookie. So there's quite a few of them, the kind of hop, the mind pucks, pugs haven't heard from him in a while. What a game feel sorry for Charro beyond happy for the blues, Saint Louis and Layla can't wait for next season and a great job by you bringing Leyla Leyla. Of course, the, the, the eleven year old girl who's got a tough disease that she's going through. And she was finally cleared to go to games in Saint Louis. I think it was in the San Jose series. And she was cleared to travel the Boston for last night. Ranko kind of took her under his wing. She was on the ice getting chance to lift the Cup after the. Game. So what a tremendous story that was for sure. And I think a great job by NBC really following that story because I think that was definitely something that tugged at the heartstrings for sure, Texas, Donna, no, this isn't the last game is conduct. But still wanted to thank you for another great season. It's great to listen to someone. So passionate about hockey keep up the good work. Well, I appreciate that. It's going to be kind of catchers catch can until we get to next season. We're going to have another podcast on Monday. Bring EJ back into the fold. Get his thoughts on everything that happened during the Stanley Cup. Follow Ron, and of course, we'll get you ready for the draft next week, we'll do a show leading into the draft next Friday. And then after that it'll just be who signs after July first, so it's certainly not going to be the last one, but it's going to be the last one as consistent. So thank you so much. For the kind words, Tom also a major follower game is conduct said what a season congrats to the blues. Leyla Anderson's story melted, my heart. However, I do expect the hawks to rebound in the central in two thousand nineteen. Twenty twenty got any way too early predictions for next season. See you at the beach. Bash says nice Tom's coming to the beach bash. I think Chicago is going to be better for sure. Wouldn't be surprised to Winnipeg in Nashville take a little bit of a step that the very difficult division Colorado. I would probably pick them as the team to beat in the central division, despite the fact that the blues won the Stanley Cup. I think Colorado is certainly on the come. They got the fourth overall pick as well. So I like Colorado in the west here early and the east, I think Boston's going to be back, I think Tampa has going to regroup and they're going to be back as well. I think Florida's going to be a playoff team, which you'll Quin Ville in the fold still have major the free agents to go through with the islanders devils and a rebuild Rangers in the rebuild. So to me, I look at the Atlantic Division, and I say Colorado's on the com-, but Pittsburgh is still there Washington still a very good team. But I still think Tampa would be my favorite in the east and look out for Colorado in the west Christina wanted to congratulate the blues on fire. Getting their Cup special. Congratulations today. Taylor for getting his first Cup as well. He played for the kings, then was with the organization has been working with the blues for years. Awesome. And that's what we did at the beginning of the show for sure. There's a lot of people that are behind the scenes without seeing Louis Blues team deserved a tremendous amount of credit. Zach wants to congratulate the blues this off season. Can we get some interviews since we won't have any games to recap? Always great to be part of my day. We'll thank you sack, and we will we will get. We'll get some stuff going during the course of the summer too and try to get some guests. I think I've explained it to you before that the when I tape this in relation to my travel to the studios of also preparing for the Michael Keisha. Sometimes it's tough to narrow down a guest when the such a small window in which I do the podcast, but we will have other guys besides EJ. We had Dan Rosen on yesterday Craig Button. We're going to have him on for the draft. But it's I would like to do more stories during the course of the summer and some sit downs with some play. Layers, so definitely make more of an effort to try to, to get some guests for you for sure. Robert Thayer says do you think the revs failure to call any penalties other than the automatic delay of game hurt? The Bruins I think it helped the blues more than a hurt. The Bruins we've talked about it a lot Robert throughout the Stanley Cup final that the blues benefit from lack of calls, they can play more physical. They can stay more in their game. Plus, with how poor their special teams have been. It was probably a good idea for them to stay out of the box. And, and they I wouldn't say they swallow the whistles, I really give credit to the players for not committing too many fouls in the game and making top on the officials to make calls. But the fact that there were not that many whistles, and not that many penalties. I certainly do believe benefited the Saint Louis blues more than the Boston Bruins chef says, hey, Don, which play was bigger, the two nothing goal late in the first or the pad save before the three nothing goal. Thanks. And thanks for another stellar season of game has conduct. It's great question because, you know, giving up a goal late is just so. Depicted debilitating? Right. And it it's a different game at one nothing going to the first intermission as opposed to, to nothing. But to nothing with forty minutes left to place, still very much doable for Boston. But now you're in the third period and that save it. If, if Nordstrom, scores that goal, it's to one. It's a completely different game. So if I had to give the turning point of the game, probably would be the pad save before the three nothing goal. Chris says, hey, Don graduations to the blues, it was reported the flyers meeting with Hayes went well, but they're not his first choice. What's the likelihood this report came from his age to leverage? More money also thoughts on Rutherford saying kessel will stay, I think the castle stuff is just kind of general manager, speak, everybody that I talked to it. Looks like he's definitely gone. So we'll see what happens there and clearly it's leverage. I mean he wants to stay on the east coast. So certainly the flyers are in, in the conversation for to stay, but. He is going to try to use it as leverage, for sure. Now. Leverage either get more money out of the flyers or that kind of guarantees you that the flyers wasted the trade because he's still gonna test free agency on July first. Which I think I thought he was going to do all along. Joseph said in two sentences where do you see the blues and the Bruins next year who has an easier path ahead of them versus harder? Hose, there's a couple of schools of thought here, and I'm fortunately, I have to give you more than two sentences because there's a lot to unpack here. You can say that the Atlantic is easier than the central and I would say that because I think there's a lot more better teams in the central. You look at the Atlantic Division, Detroit's and rebuild Ottawa's rebuild. Buffaloes and rebuild. But you have the you got the Tampa Bay Lightning overcome, but you don't and because of a first and second finish. You know, you're really looking having the play Tampa in the second round. So I think Boston's trip might be a lot harder just because I really do respect Tampa Bay as an obstacle, but a fan base gonna lose the first round again. Then it'd be active a lot easier for Boston than it would be for Saint Louis coming out of their division. However, you going to Bank on the lightning bag getting bounced in the first round two years in a row. I love both teams. I think both teams are deep, I think give Bennington is a legit goaltender. I think both teams are going to be very good moving. But as far as the easier path Tampa kind of plays into that, for sure. Jeff says really debunks the notion of needing a team full of superstars to win a Cup. That's a great point. Jeff, you do have some guys that are that. I think starred I mean Tarasenko I think is very good player. O'reilly is a very good player. Betraying. Gelo is a very good player. But right. Is there is there anybody on the Saint Louis blues that it's the level of Crosby or an Ovechkin? I think yeah. I think in all sports. I mean the NBA maybe aside because the NBA only has an eight or nine man rotation. Superstars are diverse much needed in that sport. I'd rather be very good everywhere than just top heavy. And certainly neither of these teams you can consider top heavy look how well both of their fourth lines played throughout the playoffs. So I'm kind of with you. I think he got a really take a good look at having depth on your team rather than having that one big superstar player James white sense of tweets pictures with him. And I guess his. Girlfriend and wife with EJ Radic. So always good to hang out with the J radical in Boston. Good for him. Chris wants to gradually portraying Gelo, the portray Angelo goal is better than the or goal. That was a good comment from him. Let's see. Let's get a couple more here before we say goodbye. Tim says with lose winning their first Stanley Cup which franchise is next in line to win their first Cup in their history. Or break the Cup drought. Well, it's now that you brought up Cup drought. I think Toronto's very much in the conversation too. We'll see if they hold on Mitch Monir and what happens if they let him go? But Toronto could be in the mixed avenue once in the nineteen sixty seven but as I mentioned before Winnipeg Nashville Vegas would be on the top of my list of teams to finally break the curse or win their first Stanley Cups. All right. Gave you the lay of the land. We're going to be back with you again on Monday. We'll have EJ Radic on his regular Monday spot recap the Stanley Cup final playoffs. Get a bit of a draft preview the drafts common man. It's coming in a week as I said, we'll do some pre draft stuff with Craig Button. We did it last year was very successful. So we'll do it again. And then what kinda give you the lay of land for the summer, of course, right after the draft July. First is going to be the big circle date to see where all these players go. And if history dictates usually these players within a twenty four hour period, the big ones. Anyway, get gobbled right up. So by January second third before we get to the fourth of July. I think all of the real pertinent players are already being up. So we'll definitely give you the lay of the land, once we get past the draft. So back with you again on Monday. Congratulations to the Saint Louis blues, not only on winning the Stanley company, thrilling play-off ride -gratulations in the National Hockey League. It's all the hockey fans to because it was a great year, a lot of fun, and it was great talking to you guys as well. So we back with you again on Monday. This was the Thursday edition of game has conduct listening to gain misconduct podcast. Looking for more on the Greco your him on the Michael weekdays from three to seven pm on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York worldwide on the ES. ESPN app. Don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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New direction for Ducks

"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don. League-record? At welcome to the ball game is conduct. I am down the Grech. It's monday. So we welcome in EJ Radic from the NFL network NHL now from four to six PM eastern time. What's up here? Oh, darling. Everything good. If Monday, I heard we got snow on the way down by me today in common not with that. I would like to make a declarative statement before we begin. Yes. Is that? Okay with you. Please feel floors yours. Okay. Thank you you. Are you have you are really good play by play guy? Oh. These two games now since you started gone them and like everybody with repetition gets better. But I really enjoy listening to you and Dave doing leaps and Rangers on Sunday night. And I just wanted to, you know, up in times, people don't say, these things take note of it, or whatever I wanna tell you. You're doing a hell of a job that means a lot because I know you consume a lot of hockey on the radio because of your job, you're in the car a lot. So that that is high praise. Thank you so much. I as you're saying that, well, here's here's what I was thinking about when you're saying that you would give me a call after the second game. I ever did. Okay. It was a game in Detroit at the old. Joe Rangers Red Wings, and you call the done. I listen to your call, and I sink it up with television. And I think you did a really good job. He's he said you didn't identify the players correctly at times. But that's okay. You'll get better. I was like all right. Well, you know, I said, you know, what it's my second game. Was it was it was eleven years ago. My second game. And I'm like, oh, well, you know, thanks diaper. I probably screwed up a few names or whatever. And and now, I think I told you was, you know, you're not in buffalo, right? Right. Would kept yelling out for the French connection. I was like what did he talking about? That's right. You know, it just got a couple of players passed away recently. But you know, once you get the names in the teams down, Don you're going to do a great job. You have. Thank you. Thank you very much. I really good job. Thank you. That means a lot to. Thank you. No surprise. Randy Carlyle out in Anaheim. They probably gave them a longer leash than most coaches because he did win the mccown and his first tenure listen his first tenure with the Cup. And and I guess they wanted to and and and you mentioned last week when we brought up an-and there were still mathematically very much alive for a playoff spot. Yeah. But now they've sunk to the bottom of the conference, and it's starting to slip away. The thing was watching them recently. There were noncompetitive. I mean, they were just getting blown out you you'd see the body language as much as they probably wanted to keep Randy you do get to a point where there's just nothing else left to do. Right. Yeah. I I think it's pretty obvious that they were trying to avoid that. I think that in Anaheim the ownership all the owners there like Randy closely. And I think the owners they're they don't spend just. Spend in Anaheim. I mean, they have a budget, and they don't like to pay guys not to be working. And I hit that plays into it as well. But I mean, you get to the point. I mean, they won two games than the middle of December. And I mean, correct me if I'm wrong on but it is like second week of February. That's right. And I mean, it is not been good. When you think about that road trip? I mean, nine three and Winnipeg's six one Toronto more one in Montreal for nothing and all the way after auto is playing the second back to back the team was sitting there, and they give it four goals in the first period of Philadelphia on Saturday and lose six two. So I think that there was just nothing left for them to do. And the interesting part is that Bob will go behind the bench. She never coach before I can tell you about very games gets a little worked up for lack of a better term or try to keep this conversation. Kind of GP g he gets worked up, and I'll be curious. Yeah. That's gonna work out within by the bench. But he'll get a I he'll get that bench view of the theme that he's basically put together and to see maybe up close what needs to be changed, and what could be fixed, and you know, Dallas Eakins has been there coaching their minor league team in San Diego. And I thought he'd be the next in line, and maybe he will be at some point. But it seems like they like the way they're Myrlie team is playing right now. So they are opting to keep him there with that group. So we'll see all plays out and they're gonna hire coach next year. But you know, the team good goal in John Gibson paper. They have a good group of defense men. But in the middle of their team, they're old up the middle. And they've got some contracts that I think are going to be really hard to. So it's gonna be interesting time to head on. All right. Let's go positive in the west, Jordan Bennington stories, just terrific and the blues completely turned it around. Actually a tremendous game on national television yesterday against Nashville in which. Alan ended up being the starting goaltender for the blues. But seven to one of their last ten there. Now the the first wildcard after it looked like after the firing of of their head coach their season was going to be over. I mean, how real in a wide open Western Conference. Does this blues team become now because of the goaltending? All right. This is how I felt start of the season. I really like with the blues in the offseason. I like the Riley trait. I like a wily I'd bring it in like Bosak is experienced enter who can kind of play number of gold and kill penalties and win face off. I thought was a plus I thought they were going move some of their younger guys into their lineup more. And you know, it wasn't. I've never been a big Jake gallon fan as you know. But you know, I liked what they did in the on season. They're going to be better. They stumble out of the gate. They were terrible. They were sold. They didn't move the younger guys in they fired their coach, even when they make the change takes a stretch for them kinda get going then in early January. They call up young bidding ten and they give him an opportunity and he comes. In and get the shut out, and he has really solidified that position in goal now, Jake Alvis, but a couple of games he played yesterday for sure and that game with a five four we're time game, but bidding come in and really been strong that good numbers and been solid and the team has kind of bought into Craig brew as style which is kind of shut it down in in the defensive zone. Move the puck quickly the open man, and it seems to me talking to people out in Saint Louis. That's the guys like the veteran guys. The eagles are kind of. I think they were Hubble little bit. By the way, the start was talk of guys get moved, and I think bidding came in and gave him goaltending. And everybody starting to feel better about themselves. And then the rest of the guys started to the performance started to get better Tarasenko who would that don't with off season surgeries complain way better. You know, portraying slow is a game has gone way up again, you know, Perico plan way better. So a lot of guys in that. Group of playing better than those younger guys. Like Robert Thomas has got a little bit of a roll now. And that's important. So they're moving some of the younger guys in well, though, I think it all starts with Bennington, and you know, right now in a conference where send kind of a wreck this year. I mean, they've moved right back into the playoffs spot. And you know, they're they're definitely pointing upwards right now. I mean this team they just went in and beat natural back to back games. Yeah. It does. And and the only other team that's hotter than them in the west is Chicago Seven straight wins right now, they find themselves four points. Back a Minnesota that final body. I mean is this doable for Chicago. Or is this going to Peter itself out usually when you have that long winning streak lose a couple in a row, and that probably something you can't afford this race right now. I think it's going to be hard still. I mean, but the reality is that they have now, you know, basically, they don't have all those games played more than everybody else. Everybody's in about the same fifty five or fifty six games Chicago's play fifty six. Remember like, you know, a couple of weeks ago, Chicago. Point three or four more games than everybody else. Now, they're sitting a handful of points back of that final playoff spot in the Western Conference, and they're even forty with just about everybody. So if laying great hockey right now, you know, the the combination goal of of Cam ward, and you know, in Dealey who got a new contract three or contract extension, which is perfect because all these backup goalies, you're getting three or contract extension. Because of the fact that teams wanna have a goalie to expose the expansion draft down the road, but the played well, then Cam ward, just good and also good news. Corey Crawford is back at practice. Seems like he's you know, looks like he's going to be able to play against that's great their power players clicking and their their top. Guys are just I mean Kane's got a fourteen game point streak. I think he's got more like thirty or thirty one point more than two point two game. And that stretch as it's been good debrincat, then good. And then how about a hand for Dylan Strom and give a little credit to the GM? Out and got billing Strom because I mean, I think there's a great example of a team losing patience with he was the third overall pick behind David Nyquil. They lost stations within the skating was good enough. He's gone to Chicago. And what does he done been lighting up for the hawks? So great trade for STAN Bowman down. So things are just so wide open right now, it's gonna make the trade deadline just so so interesting because we talked about it last week. I mean, everybody's kind of in a different situation on a sees value in making a Ron I'm sure Vancouver would like to just get in there. And just spit in the face of everybody thought they were going to be the worst team in the league had a great win against Calgary on Saturday. But you know, they're still two points back of Minnesota. I just think this deadline. I I don't think we're even to get to the deadline. I think deadline day. Everything's going to be done. I don't think anybody can really afford to wait. Right. I think if you see a chance to make a deal you probably make it sooner than later. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'll be curious plays out. You know, the next two week because. You really have to take a good hard look at your team and figure out what you what you wanna do going forward every every every came in every market, it's different pressures at different situation. So it'll be really interesting. I mean auto it's got those two big stars there. And do Shane Stone that could track a lot of tension. I mean, they're Reynolds. But certainly you could attach conditions on that if the players would resign that gives makes it a little bit more worthwhile way to move them. I mean, the Columbus thing we've talked about you know, to a blue in the face Qantas's one three in a row, by the way right now. I still think they're going to trade those those guys I think it's because of the situation they're going to be a package deal now. Well, I mean, they've made that trade they made that change with the Asian right there, and has now changed to you know, the same agent as Borowski. So you know, they both have it. I think in the offseason they they could do that. If they're both reagents. I think it's hard right now to trade for a guy prayed for two guys with the idea of, you know. Both finding their the like if you're a team like Florida, which has been really in the news about wanting both of those players. Why would you trade good players to get either guy when you can just wait until July. I I mean, I think that would be their plan, but you know, tried to get into the head certainly Canarian. And I think you know, when you're talking about those two the package, I mean, you know, Panetta's the more valuable commodity right now. Now, there's no question and they're sitting there third place in the metropolitan vision. Although right now, the Allens are starting to get some separation, right? They're winning games at huge clip now seven one and two in their last ten three straight wins. Now, five points ahead of Washington and seven points at Columbus. Yeah. I mean, I've watched the honors pretty closely the last three games. I I went to the game against the devils Thursday night, and the devils competed really well that game. And of course, Scheider played very well. It'd been his first game back in a while and played very very well. And that went to shoot out in the rebel to find a way to get the extra point and not has been they've been the show. They didn't find ways to get wins. They did it again on Saturday afternoon against Colorado. That went to overtime they were able to get a win one goal when against Minnesota on Sunday. And you know, there's locked in their hard to play again. You know, they're they're they're in your face all the time. And when you think your own you've got gotta break, they got three guys back. So I had a long talk Barry trot on Thursday night after the game. I Johnny boy truck. And you know, the guys are just, you know, check with me guys have bought in their dialed in. And they know this is the way they have to play to be successful. The you know, they're playing a little chip on their shoulder. I think and the goal is have been great and the guy's playing well, and you know pool. Walk and and telecom become a nice pair together to young players dot Mayfield, displayed played well and their toes is, you know, days played well, so you know, this is a team getting contributions from everybody right now. I really like I really enjoy watching them play. They remind me a lot of Egas last year. I enjoyed watching Vegas last year because they really worked hard to reunite and the all the same thing. Now, you look at the teams that I think have realistic shots making it in the East Carolina certainly that disappointing loss to the devils yesterday. But when playing well there one point back of Pittsburgh, but they played one more game. Buffalo's two points back Sam outta games. Played and Philadelphia. They did suffer their first loss at awhile. But still got a point out of it against this Los Angeles team that all of a sudden woke up when they came to the east coast. It's amazing. They're beating everybody. But where do you draw the line? Do you give the Rangers a shot? They sit seven points back with the same outta games. Played as pits. Berg Florida's played better as of late. I mean, where's that line? Is it is it Carolina and buffalo? Do you include Philadelphia to include the Rangers? We how wide open do. You wanna go with this Eastern Conference funny about it right here. The Rangers who are just one point behind Philly. But we talk about Philadelphia more because they've been on this run right there nine one one their last pen and the raiders played. Well, I mea writer has six three and one of their last week, by the way, the Rangers week somebody help me out with this with the last place came is come in on Monday against the raiders blow elite late at losing overtime right Wednesday, the backup goalie Gyorgy of ways against a good Bruins Pete. And the Rangers able to rally to goes down third and winning shoot out. Then on Friday. They honor the ninety four team the places that thrills right there. Barker's Carolina hasn't beaten the Rangers. Since like, you know, the civil war the garden and the ranger lose that one and don't play particularly. Well, and then in the game on Sunday they go back to your game. And he makes a hundred and thirty five saves and they. The journal team. So like help me out here. I don't know. I don't know what to make of the Rangers in terms of you know, how things go for them. Particularly the way they've things have gone this week. So I don't see them. I still PM as stellar. I still think they're going to trade Hayes, and they're going to trade zuccarello. I give Philidelphia maybe a little bit of a more edge because they've got this thing with Carter heart, and I think on paper I like group players, but I don't think it's a challenge. Buffalo seems to be kinda going in the other direction. I think they're just going to be a bubble team that maybe fall short Carolina tar to believe in Carolina. Just because you know, why they're playing better for sure. But like they find ways when it matters not to win like yesterday. So, you know, I think when I look at it, you know, Philadelphia and Carolina or the teams that are chasing. But then who's gonna fall out Montreal's playing? Well, Pittsburgh's just gonna track record of finding ways. When the time comes for them. To get going. They've had a couple of guys how. So if I'm betting it might be the teams that are in there right now. But you gotta say Carolina's got a shot. You gotta say Philadelphia if they can keep winning. He's got a shot you can't count because they're close. Trivia lot of fun. Can't wait. Everybody's got you know between twenty five and twenty eight games left in the season. So we're getting down the stretch. So should be a lot of fun. You ready for some tweets? Do it. All right, Kebbi, seventy forces two part question. Do you see your give as the future goal of the Rangers after last night's performance and others despite hang still playing at a high level for the most part and second question is how much longer is Hank a ranger given his age. Well, I mean first thing, you know, I think the key like Yorkie of question is and others. Right. Because this is not just a one off this kid has come in and point pretty well. Particularly at home this year. We had a company over shaky starts early in the year. But he's played pretty well. And I think there's definitely a future or not. I don't know if he's gonna be the franchise starting going for the New York Rangers. After Henry, Glenn Guth leaves. I mean, they have some other guys in their system. You know that they're looking at maybe it'd be guys to come in. I know they have the, you know, the Russian get I'm gonna I'm kind of can't remember his name right now. But like he's one of the guys that you know, that they liked down the road that point in the cage L, but he's quite well, that's where as for Hank. I mean, he's got you know, another two years on his contract. And I would think that there's every reason to believe he's gonna play both those years ago just keep yourself in tremendous shape. And I would think you know, he's thirty six thirty seven. I mean, we've seen goalies play up. The forty I think he's gonna be around. Now. I think they're going to have to support him more with maybe your year or whoever play more games. But I think hen Henrik going anywhere, and he's going gonna play out his deal. Yeah. There's no question from what I understand from what I can hear is. He's gonna get a lot of games down the stretch here. 'cause I'm with you the Rangers to inconsistent the believe that there are playoff team. And once they once they trade hazing zuccarello. It's going to be very difficult for them to be able to stay in this race. And you're gonna see a lot of your gift here. They've got twenty seven games left. I wouldn't be surprised if you see him maybe more than ten times down the stretch because they wanna know who the backup to Hank. His do they need to find one. Or is he the guy and then it'll be an audition over the next couple of years who's going to take over. But no Hank is the number. One goaltender does contract is up. And rightly so so right now just on audition for who back them up, and you take a look at this league EJ tell me the backup goaltender is not important. Right. I mean, these guys it's really I mean even sparks in Toronto. I mean. You know Anderson had a great year. But you don't wanna throw those games away. When your backup is playing. You wanna make sure that you've got a good chance to win when they're in there. And I don't think anybody's got an appetite to be grant fewer Marlboro door planes, seventy plus games every year. So the backup is going to get a look, and and it's not going to be a throw away. So that's what we're looking at here. You're give is he suited for the next two years to be hangs back up. That's all I think they're looking at right now. It was eager chefs Derek Bryant in the in the cage gel, and he was a two thousand fourteen draft picks. So he's the guy that I think they were looking at down the road, which makes sense. I mean, he's he's twenty two twenty three now and like two years twenty five twenty six we'll all that experience of plans a cave Chile. Probably would love to get him over here to play in the American League. And then maybe he's the guy down. But I mean, it's speculative at best on because when he we never hundred ready was a seventh round draft pick that nobody thought much about the range of thinking about, you know, Dan Blackburn. Autobahn joy. I think it'll war from not mistaken. So, you know, they didn't really I don't think they were thinking as in the lead up to reclaim quiz, come into New York that he was absolutely going to be the guy, but he came to work. They just took their took the league by storm. And he's been there goaltender over bent. So, you know, you just never know we could talk about all these different guys. But you know, when the time comes somebody will have the opportunity, and we'll see whoever that person is whether it's your gab. It's just Oregon someone else. Maybe they'll be able to step up and and get it done. You're just turned twenty three years old. So, you know, he's he's got a long way to go to Hank because of playing internationally. I don't think he made his debut until he was twenty four twenty five years old at that point. All these play that with that was the king firm. Yeah. So we've talked about before you know, there's a lot of youngsters in the league. But none of them are goaltenders. I mean, unless you get heart situation new most of these guys are, you know, deep into their twenties by the time they win a starting job. And. And then they can play much later and be effective Longo still plannings about turn forty you know, so and hangs going to be thirty thirty-seven coming March second. So he's got a couple more years left on his contract Dan asks which potential first round matchup. Would you rather? See islanders Toronto or Toronto. Montreal all of this one. I get your opinion. Jay after watching that game on Saturday who doesn't want Montreal Toronto. I mean, the building was up for grabs. The intensity was tremendous as much as outage Toronto. I think it'd be fun. Gimme a Canadians Maple Leafs matchup. I think it'd be terrific. I agree. And I mean think about this one was a lot of time Canadians in the Maple Leafs play in the postseason calls. Gotta go back original six, right? Yeah. Well, I think they played. I think they played after that. I mean, I know they played in like the late seventies. I know they played the late seventies. When I think when the lease beat the islanders. They went on to play against the Canadians and the Canadian that's a long time ago. Actually, they may have played in the eighty because remember Toronto for anybody any of the young guys out there they were in the Western Conference forever. So the only way they up with each other would have been in a Stanley Cup final and considering the lease haven't been there since sixty seven. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long time Bennelong gotta look outside you guess seventy nine I would say somewhere seventy six seventy seven. You know? So that's what I would tell you. Let's look it up here. I'm where there. Yeah. Let's take a look Donahue. The man wasn't wasn't seventy seven. I'd have to look let's see. And seventy eight oh, we can maybe do a fancy edit on our podcast here. If we get a little too crazy. Let's see Toronto Toronto Toronto play the islanders that was in seventy eight yet there it is seventy eight Leafs Canadians and nine and seventy nine so. Forty years Canadian swept the league so forty so it would be if they met it would be the fortieth anniversary of the last time they met that. That would be crazy. Yeah. And I'll tell you what that Toronto team. I mean, they're they're not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and maybe they can use a little bit more grit for sure but God they can fly. I mean, it is and nobody holds the puck long, and they just they're passes are just incredible. That is just and yet one eighteen on the power play go figure that but. Now, and you hear some rumblings that the money might be an issue there. I mean, what are they going to do a martyr? I mean, the guy is terrific player. But can they afford to pay them? Well, I think what you're looking at. There is like three or deal somewhere in the area of you know, somewhere in the area eight million dollars. I think and that's that's gonna be hard because I don't know if martyrs going to be that thrilled swallowing that because he views himself as of every bit worth every penny is not use me. I just don't I don't agree with that. But I think mobile love Martin I've talked to this year about how much I've been impressed with them. But when I look at their cap situation, sixty five million dollars already towards next year. And that's only with the fourteen players one goal goalie five DNA Fords. They add barter there. Let's say eight million conservatively eight million you're at seventy three seventy three four Bettman says the caps going to be at eighty three. So that gives you about ten million to work with and you've got to sign like six eight other players and also keep in mind, you're stuck with one point two million against the cap for Phil. Catholic so add that into the mix and then another five point three. I'm Nathan Horton's deal, which they own until you know in the summer that has to apply to their cap. You can go over the cap by ten percent, if they three million point three that takes you to what ninety one million there about so challenges. There's no question about it. And when I look at it, I don't think that they will want to have more on the same five your type of plan that Matthews on because we'd come up at the same time and eight year DR out of the question because the term because the cost would be too high. So I think at the end of the day, you're probably looking at about three or for victim. And it just depends on if they can come to agreement on the the money and not will be one of the more interesting than Goshi issues that you'll see because of the cap situation in Toronto. See we've got a Panara in question. I just lost it. What what what considering wanna give credit to the person who sent it? But now, I lost it. What is this trade value, considering he's, you know, he's dot going to most likely sign an extension and test free agency on July first, you would think so how much is that end up costing the cutting Columbus when they make the deal. Well, if they were to be if they were trade them, right? They would certainly attach some kind of commitment to the other team that if you do sign 'em this like, Sandra Cain, less. Your buffalo's. Cain to San Jose. And it was like the second round pick, plus whatever and that picked becomes the first round pick. If you sign them bayside him it became a first round pick. So I think when you think about you know, like Panara you'd have to attach those kind of those kind of commitments to it. But I just don't think it's a very difficult to do the blue jackets trade away. They're on three game winning streak right now, they're likely playoff team. Those guys are important players to them. They've never wanna playoff series. I just don't know if you get enough. Return core to make it worth your while. There's not a thing that means like a futures is needs players that can play and be effective right now. And why would you give away? Really good players right now on the hope that these guys wanna both these guys are gonna sign with the offseason. So it's it's a very very tricky one. And I'll be I'm really being treated how it plays out over the next two week. Scott says last year into sixty two games with Tampa domestic off at twenty goals twenty four assist plus eleven plane with stamkos in kucherov in seventy games with the Rangers six gold. Fourteen assist. Minus eighteen is being wasted. Not being on a line with Kreider in savannah jet. Well, I'll tell you this semester cost played with those guys. It just doesn't seem to work the same. You could blame the Rangers. And the Rangers are nearly as good a team Tampa. I don't care how good Kreider and Zabana Jeter playing it's not control stamkos. So that will explain the minus part of it. But I don't I I want to I think it's on the medical. I think he just. Leads to play better. But I can't kill the Rangers or the coach for not having them in the right spot. Well, I would probably agree. I think he needs to play better. But let's let's also be it for what it is. I mean, the keys drove is one of the top. Two or three or four best offense of players in hockey. So, you know, that's the first blocks. I mean, he makes everybody better with and even stamkos isn't far behind. So. I mean, he's playing he was playing with two you need guys that has they had a great chemistry and the work. Well, he leaves there. He comes to the Rangers. And they as you point out. They don't have nearly the talented team on the blue line or to play with despite the fact that the job has been really good and quite as been good. So we'll say I think he's one of those guys that maybe gets moved to the deadline maybe need to change of scenery. I think it was hard for him to boob over place, and he kinda grew up, and it was really having success and happy to come to a rebuilding Rangers team. So we'll see if you know if there's more if there's an interest if there's a market out there for them, and maybe a fresh start doesn't have good. But I don't think I agree with you. I don't think it really blame. You know, either lazy before for David Quinn now as to what's going on with the with the splinter J p fifty five says with. A return of Ladd and Hickey soon for the islanders where does that put players like del, Colle and tapes is del Colle of valuable or a viable trade peace around NHL circles. Well, I don't know why you wanna trade him was a high draft. He was kind of you to a little bit of a MAs. But you know, they've stuck with him. And he's playing the miners. And now he's come up. A helpful player. I mean, so I don't know why young good young player like that. You're not paying a lot of money. I don't know why you'd wanna move. I don't think they would. And let someone offer them something of real values that they think could help them. So I think that would probably be the only circumstance, and you know, in terms of where this leaves though, I mean, it gives them more options for Barry trots when guys come to the rink and don't meet expectations can make them out of the line. Make them out of the line dinner, put it or put a Hickey. And and I and I've been really impressed with with days as as as defenseman. I mean, the kid can skate, and he's doesn't seem to be overwhelmed and he's been with Mayfield. And those two been pretty good pair. So, you know, for me, I just think it's great having extra depth. It's like having trade deadline acquisition. I mean, both those guys. So that'll be helpful. If you know if Ladd come in and be affective play. And you know, what if life comes in the, you know, it's not gonna work, you know, he'll watch. I mean, I think that's where they all right now. This is wonderful. I really appreciate you taking time. Pleasure. Always good to be with you. And the kind words the start were tremendous true. Isn't there from is it with friends? So I mean, you know that plays into it. But I happen to be listening last night. And I'm in the car with my wife, and I say, you know, I said I said boy, Don is doing a great job. So I just want why not say it publicly when you have an opportunity I love, you know, that. All right. Well, it'd be hated it. I still love how about that. No. I didn't hate it. And just the fact that you have figured out what the right teams are the big that was a big. I wish somebody told me that before I started. You know, maybe maybe I would've would've been better sooner than I. You know? I mean, you know, what you need it. You didn't appear by or sit there like he did the other night and say here the penguin and here are the lightning. That's right. That would have been held for you. See what we did you brought that up over the trouble. Now, I get myself and you brought it up. But now that I could talk show host. I'll dig deeper what was your thought on that? It wasn't a good look. And I think that the right thing by apologizing or or explaining himself the next day. But it wasn't a good look sometimes, you know, I don't think it was necessarily intentional. But I think that, you know, listen, you're on national television. You gotta know better than that. I mean, this this is the woman that is played a lot of hockey her life. She's not obviously, she's not a man playing in the National Hockey League. But she's played a lot of hockey. And she just went through a terrific experience gold medal winner. And you know, what she's watching and she's paid attention. She knows who's playing and she knows what's going on out there. So that's just one. No. So I think it was handled. Well, I yeah. I think on the on the back end, it was, you know, in the world, we live in everybody goes crazy, right because Twitter goes wild. And you know, peer doesn't have the biggest fan club. Although I think, you know, at the end of the day, we can always we always talk about people on the air. People talk about you talk about me that you know, I liked this guy. I don't like that guy. That's the way it is. Right. We know this much about here. He does the work on a question. I'm wearing he's not. They're going like, you know, who's playing you know, what's going on. But I think that was one that you probably if he could take it back. I'm sure would. And you know, you get on with life after that wasn't a good. It wasn't a good look for sure. And I thought she hamlet. Well, and I thought everybody did the right thing there. So sometimes the right thing could be done after the wrong thing was done. We all make mistakes. That's yes. We do. Every day between four. Oh, and I'll make more on the case show and in buffalo on Friday when I'm there. So I'll talk to you next Monday, buddy. All right. That's the great EJ Radic. Check them out and Joel now Monday through Friday on the NHL network from four to six PM eastern time three games on the docket tonight penguins and the flyers Philadelphia's we mentioned Philadelphia's only loss was a loss in overtime to the Los Angeles Kings nine on one in their last ten creeping up to a playoff spot got a chance to pick up to with a regulation winning in Pittsburgh. So this huge game for Philadelphia they legitimately in. This thing is a game. They've got to win and win in regulation going head to head with a team that possesses the last spot in the Eastern Conference. That's a big game at seven also at seven the kings in Washington to take on the capital's, Los Angeles on this never ending eastern. Ron and they've won games. They then when they lose they lose overtime like the Boston game. I thought was terrific. They kill the devils. They beat the Rangers. They're playing tremendous hockey the kings probably too little too late taking on a capital team than it gets back on the horse. So that's an interesting one and the same that goes for Philadelphia goes for Vancouver. They've got a. Chance to gain some ground in the division as they're going to be home against the San Jose Sharks bowl teams play in wall. So that's a good one coming up at ten o'clock. So we got the three games to go over tomorrow. Plus a slew of games on Thursday. Just a jam packed schedule on Tuesdays we back with again tomorrow at dollar, Greg. Hashtag game conduct is the way to get in touch with me. Thanks again. The J Radic are Monday guests back with again tomorrow. This was the Monday edition of game has conduct listening to the game misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb? Greco? Hear him on the Mike. Okay. 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Another coronavirus vaccine trial shows promise

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Another coronavirus vaccine trial shows promise

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I'm carol hills new services that a top al-qaeda leader was killed on a street in tehran. This summer he was involved. Everything's don't that it's been doing. And china has brought together fifteen asian countries in one of the biggest free trade pacts ever now with china taking a lead in this organization it's clear it's going to really solidify their power the region where that leaves the us and other stories ahead on the world her. I'm carol hills. You're listening to the world on this monday. Promising news from the pharma company moderna today. They announced preliminary data showing their corona virus vaccine to be ninety four point. five percent. Effective pfizer announced some similar results last week. That means. there's an increased urgency in addressing. How and to whom vaccines will be distributed once. They're ready andrea. Taylor is with duke university's global health innovation center where she studying data on covid nineteen vaccines and therapeutics andrea. First of all. I wanna start with asking you about the pfizer and moderna announcements last week and today. What was your reaction when you heard about these results. So obviously they're really good news. I think the pfizer vaccine in particular is good news for high income countries and not really good news. For lower income countries that may lack the infrastructure to deal with an ultra. Cold storage vaccine. So the pfizer. Biontech vaccine candidate needs to be stored about negative seventy degrees celsius the same temperature as dry ice. So in that context that madonna is very welcome for countries that lack the ultra cold storage capacity and madonna vaccine. It's stable at refrigeration temperatures and can be frozen at standard freezer temperature up to six months. When should we be expecting the first vaccines to be distributed for public use. At this point it looks like the first vaccines will likely ship out about. Mid december and those will be going to the highest priority populations which will include frontline healthcare workers and those at the highest risk of mortality for covid nineteen and will those be going to basically rich countries or frontline workers those at most risk across the globe. That is the million dollar question. The majority of the doses that have been purchased through advance market commitments have been purchased by high income countries. What we don't know is of those first tranches of davis's they get manufactured where they will ship out so the kovacs facility is currently the only mechanism we have globally to ensure that vaccines go to all countries at the same time in the same proportion and remind us what kovacs facility is. What's that whole mechanism. Sure so the kovacs facility is an alliance with. Who gavi the vaccine alliance and seppi. It's a mechanism to ensure that there's global equity of access in vaccines so countries can join the kovacs facility and buy in. At a certain percentage of their population. The kovacs is reserving manufacturing capacity to ensure that successful candidates can be manufactured and then we'll ship them out to all participating countries proportional to the population so that all kovacs member countries will get up to twenty percent coverage and the country's at about in at a higher level can then receive additional population coverage but every country will receive at least twenty percent population coverage before any more. But the long and short of it is all depends on it's not going to preclude the high income countries who've already contract to get a whole bunch of vaccines from company x. or y. To go ahead and distribute those vaccines. Yeah that's exactly correct. And that's what our research is really looking at is that there are these competing incentives particularly for high income countries whereas these high income countries many of them have invested really generously in kovacs and in global equity and at the same time are reserving doses through advance market commitments and because of the manufacturing constraints reserving doses through chance market commitments. Actually takes off of the table so in some sense they are sort of giving with one hand through their investments in kovacs and taking away with the other through their advance market commitments. What are your chief concerns. When it comes to distribution the primary concerns that we're looking out for our certainly preparedness in terms of having trained providers in the right locations having the syringes that are needed. Because those need to ship ahead those need to go by sea whereas the vaccines can go by air but we're also very concerned about a couple issues that we're hearing more and more about from experts on the ground so one of those around vaccine hesitancy and misinformation and mistrust of the vaccines this sort of rise in anti vaccine campaigns globally. So we're seeing that pop up more and more even in lower income countries. There is a concern that there will be a lack of demand. Actually wants vaccines are available. And then another concern that we have is vaccine fraud potential issues of vaccines And fraudulent vaccines being offered on the black market. And i think when we are looking at the equity issues if we have low income countries that are struggling to reserve and receive enough vaccine doses to protect the population. They will be more vulnerable than to Vaccines lock market and potentially receiving vaccines. That are are fraudulent. Andrew taylor is with duke. University's global health innovation center. Thank you so much. Thank you the prospect of an effective covid. nineteen vaccine is exciting but a vaccine on won't end the pandemic. that's what the director of the world health organization. Dr tedros adhanom ghebreyesus stress. Today during the agency's daily briefing tedros said any vaccine must go hand in hand with other public health measures testing tracing isolating and supporting those who need to quarantine. My message is very clear. Act fast actor now. Opt decisively eliza faire attitude to the virus not using the full range of tools available leads to death suffering and hurts livelihoods and economies that message of taking a comprehensive approach has hit close to home for the agency itself. Tedros went into self quarantine this month after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for covid nineteen he was back at. Who headquarters in geneva for the first time today and said he feels fine. The organization also confirmed today that five of its on site staff members tested positive in the past week. Who emergency director. Dr mike ryan said that switzerland where the agency is based has been a hot spot for the krona virus in europe human beings and we live within the society. We're not entirely within a cocoon here. Who's technical director. Dr maria van kerckhove said it's reduced the number of staff on site and his tracing the path of infections. So what we do. Is we carry out contact. Tracing to see who they came in contact with to see if there are any further onward transmission As most countries are doing we also look back to see. What did they do in the previous fourteen days. For example kirkov said since the start of the pandemic three dozen staff based at the. Who have tested positive for covid but all are now fine. Worldwide more than fifty million cases have been reported and more than one point. Three million people have died for his johnson's first year as british. Prime minister has been a rocky one. There's the pandemic johnson's own battle with covid. Nineteen never ending. Brexit talks and political u turns on everything from free school meals to a lockdown through it all johnson has had his chief advisor dominant cummings by aside last friday that partnership ended abruptly leaving many wondering. What's next for the prime minister and for brexit from london. The world's orla berry has more dominic cummings achieved what few advisors to any uk. Prime minister have done. He's become a household name in britain. Coming did so as the chief architect behind the vote leave campaign persuading voters to say yes to brexit in twenty sixteen. We can say the decision taken in one thousand nine hundred seventy five by this country to join. The common market has been reversed by this referendum. The british people have spoken. And the answer is we're out. The news was a stunning political developments. That cummings largely orchestrated when the conservatives won a majority in last december's election he got credit for that too for the campaign slogan that secured boris johnson. This landslide victory. Everybody my friends we didn't. We pulled it off in weight and monday and this majority we will at last be able to do what. Tension johnson awarded commes with the top job as chief advisor and the move upset. A lot of people because cummings is notoriously abrasive figure with a knack for robbing people up. The wrong way for those who oppose brags cummings is despised but in johnson's own conservative party. Coming plenty of enemies to is stone was abrasive and combative and involved attacking institutions in a way. That was very own conservative. That's david goldberg. A former justice secretary with the party speaking to the bbc his colleague. Mp charles walker says cummings cut off access to the prime minister. We feel we've lost in for the last year. We want him back. he belongs to. She doesn't belong to the advisers. He belongs to the parliamentary party. That elected him but despite the descent from his party colleagues. Boris johnson remained fiercely loyal to his toes. Assayed most memorably when cummings flouted national lockdown rules by driving to his parents home in another part of england and then taking a day trip to local castle what suffering with covert symptoms. Cummings was forced to give a press conference to try and explain his actions. My wife was very worry. Particularly given my is cited c. Which seemed to have been affected by the disease. We agreed that we should go for short. Drive to see if i could drive safely. Who drove for roughly half an hour. An ended up on the outskirts of bond castletown. His explanation did not go down well with the british public or many conservative. mp's but despite all the outrage the prime minister refused to sack. Cummings matthew flinders professor of politics at sheffield university. Says it's not just loyalty. Boris as a kind to me somebody who needs to be loved and actually bought. You had reposting dominant. Cummings was the most strangest sort of good cop. Bad cop political partnership basically domain. Cummings was there to ruffle feathers to be disruptive often that had to happen to shake things up. But boris was never gonna do that which makes coming sudden departure from ten downing street on friday. All the more intriguing. Some are convinced. That johnson's trustee aid finally turned against him but apart from the intrigue many wonder what cummings departure will mean for. The brexit talks with this hard line. Brexit tear no long regicide. Boris johnson agreed to compromise and strike a deal with the eu. Not to flinders. Doesn't think so. Now there are so many big big areas where there is no agreement a tool. It's hard to see even with dominic cummings out of the way whether that could be any agreement and actually the person who is strongest and most of bitten into not negotiating is is boris. So no. I don't think there's going to be southern rapid shift in european policy but former prime minister gordon brown says a deal could be on the cards speaking on national television. He says it's less about dominic. Cummings and more about who's moving into the white house. I think the arrival of joe biden has made all the difference. Icy trade deal coming pretty soon. The government simply cannot afford to be at war with america on the one hand in europe and the other at the start of the new year with. Cummings gone there's an expectation that a new softer tone might emerge from ten downing. Street's more congenial less confrontational but water. Boris johnson himself without his right hand. Man he says future as prime minister on shaky ground matthew flinders says. This is a critical moment for johnson. Boris main weakness has always been himself. That's why every election. He's been into his advisors in the team around him of basically focus more highlighting. Boras away the promoting out. That indra says the prime minister now has to rebuild public trust with a new team of advisers today. Johnson his back in quarantine after fellow. Mp he matched with tested positive for the coronavirus. He has to satisfy late for fourteen days. Perhaps this would give boris johnson. The time he needs to plan his next move for the world. I'm mortuary in london coming up soon. China's new trade deal deepens. Its power across asia. You're listening to the world. I'm carol hills. This is the world. One of al-qaeda's top leaders was killed. Back in august gunned down on a street in tehran us. According to unnamed us intelligence officials in news reports over the weekend. He was known as double muhammed amasi and was number. Two al qaeda. According to reports israeli operatives killed elmasri and his daughter in iran's capital iranian officials are denying the reports. They also deny that the country gives safe harbor to al qaeda. Terrorists world syringe. Affari has the story it. Ron is not the first place you would expect. An al-qaeda leader to believing it. There's limit republic is a shia majority country. Al-qaeda is a sunni militant group and the to have long been bitter enemies. But according to american officials last august is really operatives carry out a brazen assassination in the heart of iran's capital saudi coming from west asia where al qaeda's second chief in command was killed in iran three months ago intelligence officials told the new york times. It happened around nine pm. Local type two men on a motorcycle approach decor of a man believed to be alcaide. The second-in-command abu al masri. The men fired five shots using guns fitted with silencers. Four of them hit a mystery and his daughter who was with him in the car. China china's not eating this with this told iranian news media that neighbors found the two buddies shortly after. Initially the victims were identified as lebanese history. Teacher happy donald and his twenty seven year old daughter maryam but reporters were never able to verify. those needs. American intelligence officials say iran was trying to cover up the assassination us intelligence officials took notice of abu mohammed muster. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. he helped plan the twin attacks on american embassies. In kenya and tanzania on mustard was born in egypt was a professional soccer player but later he was drawn into the fight against the soviets in afghanistan and to the type of extremes that osama bin laden was promoting barak. Medicine has studied jihadi movements for the past two decades. He was involved in. Everything has been doing. What i it's a is a trainer in somalia actually involved in a way in the black hawk downing's then and overtime is the title of bench emptied out. He found himself suddenly the position. All the number two guy mendelssohn says on muster has lived in iran since two thousand and two and the country's relationship with the group has been complicated after nine. Eleven members of al-qaeda showed up in iran. Initially it was unclear who letting them in but also moghaddam with a louder school of government. Diplomacy and strategy in hits. Israel says the connection between iran and al qaida grew into something transaction over time. It became a bit more clear and it really turned out that the iranians were holding the qaeda operatives to use them as as kind of cudgel so to speak. If high level officials were living in iran maybe the group would think twice before carrying out an attack on the country. Iran also alcott members as bargaining chips in tony levin for example it released members of the bin laden family in exchange for an iranian diplomat. Who was abducted in pakistan asaf. Mokattam says he wasn't surprised about the news of the israeli. Let assassination in iran. There have been others in the past. And he says the killing of alabama must re comes at a time when there are reports of the death of another top al-qaeda leader if this is true than than you basically have a one two punch against the al-qaeda leadership for which it will be very very difficult for the group to recover experts. Say al central has been in decline for a but it's affiliates continued to wreak havoc in parts of africa the middle east and south asia. They also point out that the killing of unless street took place twenty two years to the day of the bombings in kenya and tanzania for the world. I'm shooting for the. Us remains the world's largest economy but just barely during the next four years. China's gdp is expected to overtake the us within not far behind. One reason why is global trade. China is the world's most trading partner and that's a trend. That's received another boost this weekend. China brought together more than a dozen countries across the asia pacific region to sign a huge free trade. Deal here to tell us what that might mean. Is cara reynolds. She's a professor of economics at american university. Cara who is in this new trade group. And how important is it. Yes this partnership includes china. Japan south korea australia and new zealand and all ten members of the original association of southeast asian nations which includes indonesia thailand singapore malaysia philippines vietnam brunei cambodia myanmar and laos. It's the big deal between all the countries accounts for about a third of the world's population and about twenty nine percent of the world's gdp. Sounds like a megadeal still some have called its value more symbolic than actual. I mean india's not a member will this group dominate global trade. In the years to come. India was part of the initial negotiations for this so i think it is possible that they may join later on the asean nations that i mentioned already had free trade within them and they also had free trade agreements with australia and new zealand and china. But this is the first free trade agreement that is between china japan and south korea. What exactly is china's role in willett. Call the shots in the group or simply backup you know. Initially the united states and most of these countries were negotiating the trans-pacific partnership and that agreement with specifically designed to exclude china in some ways to give the country's bargaining power with china to encourage them to change some of their regulations and so now with china taking a lead in this organization. It's clear it's going to really solidify. Their power in the region certainly economically. But i think it could have political repercussions as well. What does this megadeal mean for the us economy. I mean it's used to being the eight hundred pound gorilla where trades concerned and. Now it's kind of on the sidelines. I agree and so what you would expect to see is exports from the united states to the area to actually fall as disagreement is solidified. I mean it's also unfortunate that the united states didn't have a seat at the table to talk about some of the issues that are part of this agreement other than just tariffs things like intellectual property rights financial services and e-commerce. These were all of the top issues. That were in the trans-pacific partnership actually that we had firm belief somewhat they should include and we weren't even part these discussions. I was just going to mention the trans-pacific partnership it was something. President obama tried to set up as a rival trade initiative and president trump withdrew the us from that effort. A president biden. Once he's in office could try to revive. What challenges would he face. I think even president obama had challenges getting support for the tpp domestically in congress. So present biden is going to face the same types of challenges. There is just not a lot of desire for new free trade initiatives in the united states. Right now why aren't trade deals popular right now in the us. How that is a million dollar question. I personally feel that it has a lot to do. With income inequality and people feeling that globalization has done certain segments of the us society wrong in terms of lowering wages particularly among certain skill levels in this country. Cara reynolds is a professor of economics at american university. Thanks a lot cara. you're welcome. This is the world. here's a reminder. 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As the us finds itself at a crossroads between one president and another the united nations happens to be conducting. Its regular review of the united states. Human rights record it does this every four and a half years with each of its one hundred ninety. Three member states this time around. The trump administration is using the review as a final platform to defend its america. First approach the world's ripper shenoy reports. We will now proceed with the review of the united states of america. This is the. Us's third universal periodic review. It's supposed to be a rare opportunity for member countries to evaluate each other on progress toward the global body's founding principles of human rights. The result is a set of recommendations by the evaluating countries and while those recommendations aren't enforced. Nicollet does that lays group did a study that shows their surprisingly effective she's with. Up are info in geneva over fifty percents of up mendacious traeger auctions sets. Are those declined dish afternoon. Thank you madam. President in his presentation to the un us ambassador andrew brent berg portrayed the trump administration as a human rights champion. He highlighted the steps. The trump administration has taken to protect religious liberty by creating an international religious freedom alliance with the joint declaration in support of defending life and protecting the family as we witness a time of unprecedented degradation of human rights by authoritarian governments around the world. It is more important than ever to stand up to defend human rights and fundamental freedoms rembert said the trump administration welcomes transparency and constructive criticism. Joanne cam ward says. That's how the trump administration would like to be remembered despite reality. She's director of the human rights in the us project at columbia law school. There has been this ongoing narrative by trump at the. Us remains a global human rights leader. While at the same time. We've seen the exact opposite which will now begin the interactive dial representatives from the evaluating countries. Talked fast. They only had a minute. Each and often said with all due respect before picking the trump administration's narrative apart listing the many ways the. Us doesn't live up to its human rights obligations. Russia mentioned the big one the trump administration's withdrawal from the un human rights council. The decision of the us to withdraw from the human rights council showed once again the us reluctance civilized dialogue with global community. Human rights countries also talked about the. Us's ongoing use of the death penalty and its failure to combat housing discrimination to sign international human rights agreements and to provide universal healthcare especially during the covid pandemic india recalled the need to address the gender pay disparity would be equal. You had places. Croatia talked about the us failure to combat gun violence and inventory relations with the aim over moving the so-called gun show loophole others suggested steps to address hate speech violence against lgbtq people and climate change. They asked the us to close guantanamo rejoin the paris climate agreement and lift sanctions on members of the international criminal court. Mexico highlighted the detention conditions for migrants ensure the conditions appropriate to detention centers prioritize family unity and safeguard the best interest of the child. Nearly all the countries recommended that the us take steps to investigate and punish police misconduct. Argentina mentioned george floyd by name including measures to prevent murders such as that of george floyd and to ensure that justice is brought when these occur conservatives see the recommendations as inherently flawed because they believe the un is biased and politicized says brent schaeffer at the heritage foundation he questions human rights council that includes members accused of gross human rights violations like china for countries with such serious human rights problems to be so easily elected to sit on the human rights. Council tells you a lot about how seriously other member states take the issue of human rights and the desire that they have to actually advance human rights standards and principles in an objective way. The trump administration responded to some of the recommendations saying that there are no plans to shut guantanamo and that unchecked migration is dangerous they said the george floyd protests the summer led to lawlessness. This was james mcammond. Deputy undersecretary at the us department of homeland security at the review. It was with alarm and disbelief this year that we saw violent anarchist's violent opportunists in criminals. Set fire to many. Us communities kill innocent people a sale private property and target our law enforcement officers. Joanne cam ward of columbia law. School's human rights institute says ultimately the trump administration's attempt to rewrite history won't matter because its successor. The biden administration will have to deal with reality. It will be really important when we have a new administration to be prepared with some really concrete and measurable action. That's aligned again. With a globally recognized norms. The biden administration will ultimately be the one to accept or reject the recommendations since the us has until march twenty twenty one to consider them and cam afford says they'll provide important roadmap for the new president as he plans to rejoin the human rights council and the global community for the world. I'm rupa shenoy. Fighting in the northern tegray region of continues to escalate and has now hit neighboring eritrea. Yesterday the leader of grace forces confirmed they had fired rockets at the airport and trias capital over the weekend and he threatened that more will come. The escalation raises fears of a wider war in the horn of africa. Region of med. Solomon is a research fellow on the horn of africa at the london-based chatham house. So i'm ed so far. We've seen the recent violence in northern ethiopia limited within the country's borders. How did air tree get involved. The eritrean government been accused by to grind leadership religion bred number michael all getting involved in the company of supporting the federal government military operations in the region at providing supports on voda Forces as well as shell linked into tig ri- and what have is a region which has seen cyclical conflict over a number of decades. And in some ways is still feeling the aftershocks. The war fight costly in nineteen ninety. Eight two thousand between ethiopia. Nara that really cemented the hatred between the current to grind leaders. And the a train leaders that continues today. I wanna take a step back. Remind us what caused the recent violence to erupt in the tegray region. So we've had a thirty for relations for some time between the regional administration into cry and and the federal government. I think since be adleman came into into power tensions worsened. Op-ed is the current president of ethiopia. Who famously won the nobel prize last year. Current prime minister of ethiopia who won the nobel peace prize in twenty nineteen for his efforts initiating peace between ethiopia Trier off the twenty years and also for the trying to initiate broad reforms and opening of freedoms space in the country since twenty eighty relations between federal government under ib and the to grind people's liberation front was and I think the tps had been pretty much within the ethnic of federal government the leading partner for over twenty seven years and really when abby came in on the back of widespread protests in the country for a number of years that change at the had to retreat to the regional capital and a new power dynamics code in a since that have been deterioration of relations between the two and since then really both parties were de-legitimize each other's show of conflict and we led to a situation where because of covid nineteen national elections the juice behold in august were postponed complicated that school tension that was resented in integral as they went ahead and how their own unilateral elections which were unconstitutional They refuse to recognize the federal government's legitimacy and in turn the prime minister and the the government denounced the to grind elections. They cut ties with the region administration and withheld federal budget. Subsidies to the region as well do you see how things have spiraled from your vantage point. What is needed here to avoid this conflict from gathering steam across the horn of africa. I think what we've seen is that from a regional security in diplomatic perspective. You're really is a bit too big to fail I think you know. We've had considerable international concern and statements in that regard but we need coordinated diplomatic efforts in demands for a truce. And i think the united states as well as the united kingdom a to either abused largest bilateral donors and a well position religious influence and put that concerns for winners as members of the international community. I think what is needed. Both sides to moderate their extreme demons in order to come to the negotiating able seeking on the us side. I know that there is a you know. There is a transition ongoing at the moment and a lot of internal focus in us politics. But i think by ipod san backing that we've that we've been seeing and a strong message ozone from Biden would be influential and could potentially reverse some of the damage done to us relations that we saw under president trump. I've met salomon is a research fellow on the horn of africa at the london. Based chatham house thank you very much. thank you. Brazilians voted in local elections in more than fifty five hundred municipalities across the country. This weekend the biggest takeaway. It was another setback for president. Gyro bolsonaro and it comes on the heels of the electoral loss of his top ally. Us president donald trump. Michael fox has more from brazil. Did a auberge did go. Bandidos does mealy seon or if the voice sounds a little familiar. It's because you've heard it before. Just not in portuguese. Monica been issue. That's pink floyd's roger waterest telling brazilians to quote free the country from the murderers and the thieves and vote for monica benicio. She's the widow of the late. Black city councilwoman mariella franco. Who's killing in two thousand. Eighteen sparked nationwide protests and black lives matter movement in brazil. Roger waters appeal may have helped benny city council seat in sunday's local elections receiving nearly twenty three thousand votes. She's considered the first openly lesbian rio de janeiro city council member. She's one of a series of lgbtq candidates one around brazil including to trans women who garnered some of the highest numbers of votes in sao paulo. The same time we have. This election was the largest numbers of our take running in brazil. That's martha della chiesa. She's the former president of the brazilian. Lgbt tourism association. She says it seems. Lgbt candidates did well despite both does openly homophobic slurs and rhetoric which the president was spouting even last week. I think we do have a bit more understanding the society that moved on from him. Despite his rhetoric it may be a sign of bolsonaro waning. influence do not is in alito. Police la Or donald on on president. That is both enough. During a facebook live event on november twelfth encouraging supporters to vote for numerous candidates most of those candidates lost in sao paulo. Boston guy came in a dismal fourth place after leading early polls one centrist party openly rejected bolsonaro support for a mayoral candidate in a city in northern brazil saying it was unwise considering what was happening to candidates identified with bolsonaro. That candidate also came in fourth jack. Mic is a political scientist at the federal university of something that i can much jock says it seems. Bolsonaro has lost his charismatic political power. Two thousand and twenty has squashed the popularity of the president which should increase the political difficulties for both for the coming years ahead of the two thousand twenty two presidential elections. It doesn't help that bolsonaro. No longer has a party. He left his social liberal party late last year with plans to form a new far right party which he called alliance for brazil but he couldn't get registered fast enough to compete in this year's elections. That didn't dissuade dozens of supporters from trying to cash in on his name. Saw boys you on saturday. A candidate named raffles are not all supporters. Held an hour long. Facebook live event from the back of a pickup truck. He was part of a caravan riding in support of his campaign for city council in a hillside town near rio de janeiro in the video. Who wears a blue shirt with the silhouette of boston. Outer space etched across the front was one of more than forty candidates registered to run in local elections with bolsonaro in their names. Brazilians are allowed to include their nicknames. On the ticket there was even a donald trump bolsonaro in a small town in southern brazil though. A local electoral court disqualified him from running because he couldn't prove that he was actually known by that name. A lot of these bolsonaro link candidates did not do well. Boston arrows own son. Carlos was re elected to rio city council but with thirty five thousand less votes in two thousand and sixteen. That however doesn't mean the country's political right is losing speed. here's political scientists. Jack's mic janetta. Present the apple citadel and says as sort of jesus he says even though the icon of the right president bush has been defeated or as candidates. Did not do well in general. The right is well position with even more robust compositions than the left at this moment. But the election wasn't a blowout for the right. The workers party held ground the progressive socialism and liberty party peso which grew out of the workers party in the early two thousands picked up important seats across the country and it tripled its city council members in sao paulo. Supporters cheered for pace soul. Mayoral candidate gary bowlers. The leader of the homeless workers movement after he voted on sunday. Bullets is headed for a runoff with center right incumbent mayor bruno kovas bolos has been on the receiving end of a campaign of attacks and fake news looking to smear his reputation so manuela davi them a young charismatic communist party candidate who was also headed for a mayoral run off election in portalegre. The southernmost state capital at xanthos does is overseen scholar mantle movement for all of your listeners. She told supporters last week. I'm so sorry that you've been victims of this campaign of so many attacks so many lies so much disqualification and so much. This is political gender violence. That's what us women call. I am subjected to manuela is fairly high profile. She was the vice presidential candidate for the left against bolsonaro in two thousand and eighteen last week. A regional court ordered that ninety one links to false claims about her be taken down from social media sites. It's a sign that even if bolsonaro influence is waning the smear tactics that were rolled out in his presidential campaign and used by. The far-right are still being employed. And they're likely to continue as brazilians look toward the runoff elections. Later this month and two two thousand and twenty two when bolsonaro will do his best to win a second term for the world. I'm michael fox. Imploding up to this. Brazil you rely on the world for a daily dose of global connection need just a little more sign up for our newsletter the top of the world. That's the world dot org slash newsletters. You're listening to the world if you've got a case of the monday blues this next story is for you. A group of left leaning politicians and labor organizations have sent an open letter to leaders of the eu as well as president elect. Joe biden their demand a four day workweek. They argue that switching to a four day workweek has environmental and mental health benefits and could potentially help countries recover from the economic impact of the coronavirus pandemic. Joe rile is a campaigner at four day week. Uk one of the signatories of the letter. First of all. Joe when we say a four day workweek what are we talking about. Is it people working forty hours but longer days just four days or fewer working hours overall. It's few canals. I've so we're campaigning. For four day working week which would be about thirty two hours. Men on average workers will in the us k. Walking around forty hours and which hasn't changed very much since about nineteen eighty so long overdue a change. And what we've seen. Is that this new. If grace automation and new technology of that was we were promised that we're gonna. It was gonna ask to have more free time as notchy happen. Says it's about time we will work. Less to share work equals the economy. But it would also involve less money. It wouldn't people have to take a pay cut campaigning for four day week of no pay for workers and where most organizations have been says. There have already made a switch before it is the model that they've used and how that's possible is that essentially put simply goes up when people are working. That's you know. I don't think many people will find it surprising to know that. When you're i've watched some bun out you become might divisive welcomed As job jobsites this huge business. Aquifer is that productivity will go off nut that allows people what less. Now it's interesting is your letter. That is arguing for a four day. Workweek it says it can help countries recover from the economic impacts of the coronavirus pandemic. How would that work so go at the moment is you've got millions of people being made unemployed but at the same time millions of people over employment and working t much what we found in the uk anyways that people seem to be working more hours of kite. Because there's not very many checks and balances when people working at home and so how. This works is the over history. In tons of procession and crisis shorts working has been influenced the share weekly of course the economy. And that's rebound insist economy. The job you're talking about are are mostly kind of white collar jobs and so much of at least the. Us economy service. How does it apply service economy. So it's definitely easier to implement white collar jobs but there's no reason why company implements months blue trump's. Let's take a stuff. My head wasn't service sites like a cafe or restaurant. We have work as their times. But that doesn't mean that it's not possible with just means that you have to be a bit. More clever with the ship passes the restaurant and cafes open but that workers are also give enough time off. So they're not over. What seems too good to be true. The working less could actually improve the economy. I mean critics say that reduced working hours would actually slow economies down and worker. Productivity would go down. Actually i mean. What is the evidence that wouldn't happen in japan where mike software dancer four-day working week and productivity by four percent. I know that buffa the social media organization. America's just gone a four day week. We speak to them and so far. It seems to work out very well. All of the work is still being done. The targets is still being met but yet work as much happier and healthier lives on so dominated by work joe. Riley is a campaigner for four day week uk. They recently signed onto an open letter to leaders of the you as well as president elect joe biden calling for a four day workweek. Thanks a lot joe. Thank you one of the most important telescopes in the world is on the brink of collapse after two. Supporting cables snapped the cbo observatory. Puerto rico is a popular tourist destination. An essential tool for hundreds of scientists around the world. The nine hundred tonne platform containing the telescope could crash down unless the cables are repaired or replaced above. The mendez is an astronomer at the university of puerto rico. He uses the telescope for his research. About how precarious is the situation at the observatory. Right now. i mean. Are you worried yes. Totally worry about the situation right now. When they're first cable fail. I was nuts dot worry because it was a smaller cable. I thought that he might take just a few months to repair. But now the second favor was the main tables and Now they wait the platform. Those cable have to withstand the way where. They're not bill for that much weight. So that's very critical right now. Why is the observatory so important for your research or we went to the stand. The impact of the radiation environment of star. Some stars are very stable like our sun. Other stars are very active constantly. In meeting those radiation. So i have been monitoring from data civil civil authority on these app. The stars in the last four years looking for the best start for habitable planets scientists from all over. The world rely on this telescope for their work. What would the impact be. If this telescope were lost a receivables still the biggest must powerful later in the war this feature used to study asteroids so therefore at a civil is the best east remains to study the properties of threat three of any potentially hazards estermann door after judy a new. Ask janine to learn the proper. It's like the change the size. So that tells you how much damage could cause. There's imbed into our atmosphere Thousands of tourists come to visit the odyssey observatory every year beyond its scientific significance. How important is the observatory to puerto ricans people about tori is say icon import the rico and he also helped many people to get a bold in science careers. For example for me my first was when i was ten years all to observatory. I had a wonderful experience because one of those scientists their took me around the servants already announced. Totally interests is evident picture. You talk about. He doesn't bear a been there because he's so huge. I know the observatory is asking the national science foundation for twelve and a half million dollars in repair funding. What is being done to stabilize the structure. And do you think at this point. It can be saved. Where are this moment with information that we have. This structure is not safe. Those cable are we standing more weight that they will bill saw. I know our engineer from puerto rico and the us are serving this situation trying to figure out how to stabilize the structure. But at this point. I don't think there's a he is not an issue of money no matter how much money you have latest. Is that even that if you dissolution just to build more cables. Those cables takes a lot of time to build so time. Now he's creepy call. I know they're trying to us again. About mendez is an astronomer at the university of puerto. Rico he's been speaking to us from cibo. Thank you so much. Thank you my pleasure. The world comes to from the nan. Bill harris studio at gbh in boston. 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Tuukka Rask Could Be On The Move & Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wants to Play in Boston | DJ Bean | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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Tuukka Rask Could Be On The Move & Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wants to Play in Boston | DJ Bean | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is October 6th. And this is the Brewers beat on Ceylon s media. And welcome into the Brewers being on ceiling ice media. My name is Evan Baranowski. Hope you guys are having a great week weird that it's October 6th, and we're not talking, you know, the start of the season. Oh my God. What do you guys think of opening night? What do you think? What do you think of the upcoming schedule? Obviously, none of that but instead this week is going to be very exciting. Very exciting is the draft free agency towards the end of that lots of particularly big moves. The Bruins could make given Bruins history and their lack of making big moves. They might not make any big moves. but there's always the chance they make that big move and Certainly feels like this. We could be the week. Yeah, Rask ekman-larsson Carlo debrusk, maybe krejci lot of moving pieces or a lot of pieces that could be moved or maybe won't be moved. So it'll be interesting to see what happens and then talk about all that. 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What is on nothing man? How are you? It's been a minute. It has been a minute but it's it's a lot of stuff happened in that minute. Then we've taken you know pandemic the Bruins lost a lot of stuff has happened since we last talked do we do Victory Laps on Bruins losing because we it's not exactly how we saw but before the season I'll tell you A two people who weren't super high on your Boston Bruins, that would be Evan marinov. Ski and DJ Bean it was awful. Yeah tell you what, We both said that they would lose to the the Maple Leafs in the first round which again not entirely true, but we were friends long till we moved. I felt kind of indicated as the season went on like I was I was I thought this was a very this was an awesome season for the Bruins up. This was a very fun season to watch the Bruins but there's ways to kill he's he'll was not going away be that the lack of wings was not just solving itself. And after I don't know pretty horrible trade deadline, I felt no better. I felt way better about the lightning like I thought that somebody was going to be way better than them in the East and I mean clearly it was a lightning. I never understood during the season the tenor from Bruins fans that some media that you know, all the Bruins are higher in the standings in the lightning. They're fine. They're good the Bruins, I think they have a chin and granted. I wanted that series all along under normal circumstances job. I wanted the Brewers for the lighting. I thought beings way more exciting series than it was granted. The Bruins didn't have Rask. I thought I was going to be so much better during the season if you do that back in May, but I still didn't really believe the Bruins were going to get past the lightning and if you look at the trade deadline, which has now been put under a microscope by you especially and at the time I said, I mean I said Nick Ritchie, you could have got so much more for getting behind it than you did with Nick Ritchie. And you're one of the first people to sound the alarm on Nick Ritchie. Like why why would you get him? Oh, yeah and that it's it's so funny that you say like, you could have gotten so much more for Danton Heinen like you want to talk about a depressed asset. That was Danton Heinen right like young player decent contract. But just having a bad year like you were selling low on him. But even when you're selling low on him, I was like Nick Ritchie, I honestly viewed that deal as a salary dump because you saved what I think one point three million something like that. It was someone that you seemed like a decent chunk of money in that trade and bow Bruins fans viewed it as like they were upgrading and I was like if this is an upgrade as a player then why didn't you have to give up more? How come why wouldn't you have to give up more if they're the same player in and supposedly the better player makes way less why what are the Ducks just stupid? Well, that's the thing and it's just like, you know that we knew that Nick Ritchie would take some sort of penalty in the postseason. I thought it would be a trip. I thought it would be a trip at a crucial moment a hook is a guy's going by I'm like, that's what I thought was going to be like being stuck in the mud penalties exactly. But instead he decides to just absolutely kill who was it on the light? I'm blanking on the name who he murdered. It wasn't it wasn't gored. Was it? It was bored was it were scored? Yes. It was I was thinking defenseman. Where was in the on the ice, but it was Yanni gourde cuz I think it was it was a third liner. So I think it was Gord Downie. They just decided you know, let's sit down about 5 minutes. It was in New York. So we were we were both right on them losing. We're both right you were very right on the deadline. I didn't think it would turn out as bad as it did but speaking of this speaking of Trades this week and you said this before we got we started recording and I was like DJ save it save it for the air cuz that's why I don't want you to get it all out in the Preamble before but this week has the potential to be like Monumental with this franchise. I think it's getting overlooked a little bit too. I mean could be traded could be now sweetie said this morning that you know, you still a part of the roster construction, but he doesn't say a lot to begin with what what's your take on this? I mean this could be like if we want to go there this could be the second most pivotal offseason. Don Sweeney's tenure is Jim Morrison would be I mean, yeah, we obviously know what the the first one was some hits some misses I'll defend on Thursday and say people forget the meal music trade was was very solid but should it be his want this could be kind of the offseason wear off he shakes it up and there's been there's been little shit shaking in the Don Sweeney tenure really other than that 2015 offseason where he kind of came in and moved Hamilton moved Lucic got the Draft Picks 6 in the first two rounds. We all know the story there but dead. This could be like the next kind of version of that obviously not as big but like if you look at where the Bruins are, I mean what happens with Krug? What happens with Chara those to move up itself are pretty franchised altering. And then from there there's obviously been the the Rask rumors. I I wouldn't be surprised if something happened with Rask because we we should never be surprised by anything that happens with Rask anymore. And this point that's the case. This was like a weird enough year and obviously with it happened in the the postseason like There's so much uncertainty surrounding that player that that nothing that happens with him with surprise me. So yeah between Krug we think departing who knows what happens with Chara. I think the flu tone made a really great point that was sort of an obvious point that we've all been kind of sleeping on like it is possible that Chara reaches free agency and who knows if the Bruins have or anything with him maybe a team jumps in and they're like, hey, man, you're the missing piece like this is your what what we need and maybe yeah, maybe he just maybe he departs so possibilities are plentiful and I haven't even gotten to the Do they make like a real hockey trade? Do they trade Jake debrusk? They trade Brandon Carlo. My pie-in-the-sky thing that will never happen is like they find a way to make Carlos the centerpiece of a Patrick line a deal which financially and for other reasons just does not seem like something they would do but oh my God, I have been banging the table to get more scores on this team and if they found a way even if it's losing Carlo in an offseason where you also lose Krug, like imagine if I thought they had Patrick lyonnet David pastrnak and like imagine having three of the best goal scorers in the planet on your team to counter that though line has a year left on his deal with Brandon if it's centered around Carlo then I'm okay with that your cup window is very short if it's not already closed, so maybe if you decide you know what we're throwing everything at this one year then go for it, but dead. A year left and he'd be on the second power play unit and I just feel like he might get wasted in a way like obviously you want as many stores as you want, but don't you think he might get little bit wasted? Yeah. So I I agree with that. I think that you're running the risk of burying him. And also, I mean there's a million reasons why I think that this this wouldn't happen another one being that if you feel like getting him with a year left on his deal before you have to really pay him is a short window type of move them and why aren't you also finding a way to bring Torey Krug back? Right like you know that so if it becomes tougher there where I mean, I apply toward crew to pretty much took all thinking with what the Bruins could do. Like, I don't think they would do something that would say, okay, we're going for it in this short window. I mean the fact they haven't brought Chara back already told you that like they're not necessarily thinking short window. I think that what they're probably trying to do now would be my guess like Buy a little more time like stretch it out become a good team that could get hot versus a world-beater, which is what you've been trying to be the last couple of years to to know success. You covered Sweeney when he first started you've covered you covered the Bruins for a long time or for a for a while. I mean I make it sound like it's covered them for like twenty years becoming for a while. Yeah, like you think that do you think that they're complacent in sitting on the fence between going all-in package and kind of having a i for the future that in some form or fashion? You have to pick one. Well, I think that the NHL is actually a league we're being just being a good team for a while vs. Took it down to the studs really rebuilding is actually smart like in the NBA that doesn't work. If you're just a good team, then that's getting you a 4 or 5 seed four or five six seed and short of this season with the heat. Not much playoff success, right like but in the NHL mean eight seeds go to the cup like any if you're a good team anything that can happen. So it's not a terrible strategy to want to be a good team that can have some great Seasons versus. Okay. We need to strip this thing down. We need to get x amount of great young players, which I mean the Bruins don't have a lot of Great young players. They they have them they have the pasta knocks and the mcavoy's of the world, but they don't have much of a next wave right now is how you stopped yourself after Mac boy. So you said pastrnak McEvoy debrusk? No debrusk no debrusk because in some ways, it feels like and and Carlos Fringe to like, I love Carlos defensive shutdown defenseman. He's you know, he's your next guy for the penalty kill for six on fives. But or we overvaluing Brandon Carlo in a sense. Like I I think this offseason's kind of exposed him or exposed to him and maybe debrusk to potentially being Expendable. You can give them up in a deal right? I think something better and I'm just going to keep like making this a a flute. Oh tribute show me. He he made the point. We are those guys good enough to usually when you have young good players. It's just assumed okay. This is how it works. You keep them then you dead. and you you try to build around them etcetera etcetera, but Does it benefit the Bruins where if Jake debrusk Sask is high to say? Okay fine, then let's let's move Jake debrusk. He's averaged 21 goals a year. Why am I missing? Decent amount of games over the course of his entry-level contract. So a key is totally within his rights to say I'm clearly a good goal scorer in the NHL and I deserve I don't know like at least five million a year if the Bruins aren't into that then okay, then you do your shopping and that it's wise of them to be doing that due diligence because he's so inconsistent and you wonder depending on who he's with like Krejci's got one more year. Do they maybe move him this offseason? Like what are you actually going to get out of Jake debrusk depending on who he's playing with? Like I like Jake debrusk a lot. But I I think the Bruins are are wise to be leaving. No stone unturned there. I agree. I think again, I think you could if he could package debrusk for a better top-four defenseman if you could package Brandon Carlo for a better top-six Winger who can score. Yes, like I like Kyle Palmieri in New Jersey. I like how primary a lot wage. I think he's someone who's you could get its New Jersey? I think you could get him but things like that. I also think freeing up, you know, you mentioned debrusk getting you know paid a ton. I don't need it should go above for for Nebraska at least right now. And again, I think it's that we talked about this laptop seized with McEvoy Carlo. Those short proved me deals right? Sometimes hurt teams into breast case so they can help both suck. That you can prove yourself and the Bruins get saved with the cap in the short term, but I do think though that if if you can get two breasts money off the books, you have more money to them. You already have kept flexible you more money to to maybe get a better more consistent proven older Winger, you know, and I think that that's something they're missing right now the Tuukka Rask stuff though long does this like, I don't know if you're getting a lot for rest. I think you could potentially get a first because he's got a year left and he's thirty-three. I think if a game like the Colorado Avalanche took out to me as a team who was her desperate to potentially win now, well not desperate but they could win right? Yeah. No, they're in a position where they could yeah cause they could so to me that's a team that makes sense to potentially get a first but you brought a fluid I'll bring up felger will bring up two F's in Boston felger always says birth. When you're when you're when you're trading a player you want to try to trade them for better or equal to what they were drafted at and Rask was a higher draft position that I think the ads are going to be this rear asked was Twenty-One. I believe and the ABS have to be I think they're under that figure. Yeah mid-late twenties. That's what I was thinking. So to me, I think the odds are fit if you you know, but it's also like if you're trading Rask, then you probably aren't going all-in next season unless you go out and get another legit goaltender, which I don't know if they're going to do something right and I I think that that's unrealistic right to trade Rask and replaces production. Like if you I don't know who do you go out and get you trade for money from Matt Murray do you sign? But one quick thing is just that's just ignorance the cigarettes. I think that's that's having to relax and I don't think that that does you boss like I love how much you hate like or like I love how much how cynical you are with like really Elite former elite players like Tom Brady Henrik Lundqvist. I think that is my favorite thing about you know, I love ljungquist. I I love lunkwitz, but I think that people see the name and they think oh well if you can replace Rask with ljungquist and save money you're in business. It's like, oh cool. You're just getting worse. And you haven't watched him play in like four years, right? So and and are you doing enough with that money to make that I mean there there's there's a planet where if you trade back to ask and replace him with Henrik Lundqvist, you can have a better team next year, but that's if what you do with the savings and who knows what ljungquist ends up getting ljungquist probably gets a decent contract based on his name like wasn't cam Ward getting paid for a while after the fact that his name was cam Ward and he sucked. So I think that one Quest is almost like a like a late-career Emmett Smith, like ticket sales type of gas. Although I don't know if ticket sales guys exist depending on where the world is in a a few months my point being he's a bigger name than he is a great player right now, but if you could take the savings of moving of replacing Rask with log West and turn it into you get a great top-four defenseman or you get two more Wingers like two more good Wingers Dependable Wingers then all right, the the argument can be made that that you've stood where you were or even improved but I don't think that's realistic because the the Bruins with money to spend typically they don't spend it super wisely like they don't hit home runs unless you're talking about. Good like fourth line signings, which God blessed on Sweeney. He's really good at that but Like when I I've been writing some things about like moves they should make guys guys they could trade like what their trade values maybe and I'll tell you I haven't written about 1/4 liner because when it really comes to you know what cut in time that's not what makes and breaks a hockey team with apologies to Sean kuraly who's a great fourth line player and has scored some big goals, but you know what I'm saying, like exactly when you're addressing what the Bruins need and what they need to do and their fourth line did suck last year. Like I need Middlesex help God, they need metal six helps there forever. This is like a problem that they had when you covered them like this has been forever this before everything and they bring in these facts Inge top six young guys too, Brusque Richie Kasha Bjork, like it's just like waiting for them to pan out at least cash of looked good and it's five-on-five numbers were good when he was with the Bruins but dead. It was no production is Oliver ekman-larsson indeed. I understand that. Do you understand this at all? I don't know. I I hate it and God and bless him. Apparently he gets to play for the Bruins cool. So do I but actually I don't think I would I would want to do it be kind of fun. I mean dead Hayes. Well good group of guys. Be cool expect you for sure bang out a memoir afterwards. Oh, yeah, like people would want the movie rights. How did this guy ended on the Bruins? It's like a guy who was like the the one the one that that for the Miami Marlins like yeah years ago. That's you or what was the there was like a Dennis Quaid movie the the rookie something like that. Yes. Yeah some something like that. But yeah, Morrison wants to play for the Bruins, but I've texted like my hockey friends with this about this constantly and haven't found an answer. Why does that make sense? Why would they why would it make sense to replace Torey Krug off with a more expensive player? Who's when I say more expensive? I don't just mean a v wise. I mean, you have to give up a lot of stuff to get him and not recommend Larson's a good player. Even if you may fear that he's going in the wrong direction. Why would you do that that that makes little sense to me? What if the Bruins were chained like three months of the of I mean the coyotes retained three million of it. So the Bruins would essentially pay between five and six. What is he? He's 8 to 5 a.m. I believe he's a 2-5. Yes. That's that's a different story than that's awesome. Because then you're going from paying Torey Krug 5.25 paying Oliver ekman-larsson wage. To 5 the only issue is you probably part with your 2021 first-round pick which would make it what three of four years that you don't select in the first round. Yep. The only time what did is you just sorted by height and took that guy? Although John becher I think is a good Prospect but usually which is like the most Bruins pick Evan. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, very very Bruins e but you're I think this does hinge on the how much does the coyotes retain. I don't think they I think the coyotes what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing is they want to just outright give up ekman-larsson and his full contract and get like a good haul and return it's like it's not more trades work like sorry. Sorry, you can't have both you have to offer you the retained some and get a little bit back in return, but you save the money or you give it up, you know in full and you don't get a lot back and I think it makes more sense for them to just keep him because you suck. Both those things aren't going to happen, especially with the flat cap. Like I only wants to go to two teams and the two teams can't really sort of like it is home using reverse Tom Brady. The player wants to teams. I think he saw what you were saying about Brady and said, you know what only like two teams going to want me. I'm going to pick those two teams as the destinations. I want to go to just like I thought like breadstick Brady came out and said I want to go to either the Chargers or the Buccaneers. Everyone's like wait what you said? Yeah. Just those two t those two that seven was like what about the Titans and the Raiders and all these team? He's like, oh no doubt and those those seems a man forget. I'm over those Saints. Yeah, welcome who cares but but it but I don't understand they have a lot of stuff. I never understood it. You'd have to give up a lot the first round pick stuff continuing to just give up your first and not have cops. I don't think I can largely get you that much closer to Stanley Cup. I'm your top floors solid. I mean, I guess if you don't give up any dog So that are currently on your roster. It would be what I, Larson and Carlo or acknowledged and McEvoy. I mean, I mean, it depends depends on how you want to balance it. I mean offensively the Bruins like going for broke and just loading up that one line. So I mean ekman-larsson McEvoy would be awesome. I would I mean but if if it were me I would probably go ekman-larsson Carlo and then have McEvoy carry whomever on the bulb is like Krista can actually be fine. I'm fine with that. Yeah, but that could happen. Anyway, I know I mean at Char comes back. He probably be on the third pairing. That's at least where he should be with Clifton or whoever just played defensive Zone minutes long sheltered, whatever last thing. I wanna talk about Bruins with you. Do they trade into the first round. Do you think they do it? I don't know. They're going all the way they be going all the way from 58th. And that's where they're just kind of stuck with not having a lot of Austin pieces. Like what do you give up you already? Traded your second round pick from a couple of years ago in the Bacchus salary dump. Which side note do you feel about What kausha is in that trade? Because I get mad every time someone says the Bruins don't have a first-round pick. They traded it for Andre Kasha and I think Kasia was like half a step up from a throw-in. He was more. Yeah, he was closer to a throwing than he was the centerpiece to that deal. Like that deal was the Bruins paying the wages ducks a first-round pick to take most of David Backes his money and then there's the Prospect and Akasha element. Well at the time I think it Kasha was the centerpiece thought people looked at it and I looked at the time it's like, oh are you serious think they're getting back but like I know but the primary like the the primary makeup of that deal was the Brewers are giving them a first-round pick to take David Backes as money. I love the thought that I think if Tasha gets a full year with the Bruins, I think you will see the production happen. I just look at it and I see more Fringe. Six guys again, it's more fish. Also. You've Jack studnicka next year where where she's sitting in is he going to be a top six players you're going to be I mean, he's not going to fit anywhere at Center unless you give up grade. She so it's like a unless you give up. Krejci. Which do you think that happens? I don't think it happens. But that's why I think this is a cool week. I wouldn't be surprised by it. Like he's he's going into last year of his life. He has said before and no no one. I haven't heard anyone follow up on this but I remember it from being the thousand years old back when I covered them when he signed his last deal. He talked about going home afterwards. Yep. He was every time maybe at the end of this deal if I brought some with you before I'm I'm always fascinated by it. No one really talks about it. I've written so every time I write it down creatures future. I referenced your report from 2016 with me. I about when Datsyuk retired and I reference back in when he signed in 2014 and I reference wage. No one talks about it. You know, there's anything it's like it's just weird forgotten thing that he'd like, that's a pretty big thing to say. Like did anyone check in on like that would have been a good breakup day long Tsum type of well, he was too busy getting mad at us for asking him. No questions after game 5 ended. So when game five all that create she was like I was mad at them reporters for not asking me any questions and just asking I think it was Marshawn it was with I forget what you know, if people were people were mad at him about that and I I get where he's coming from them not to be awkward. Like you're mad after a game really bad moment. And you're just and they're like, hey, this is your obligation. You have to sit up there and you're sitting up there for no reason just like kind of stewing I get that. I always feel good when like two players go up at once and only one player answers all the questions and it's like someone asked the other one a question to like just little bit. That's that's also where It's that that's just not a good setup. And that's where you get into the like. Hey team media relations people can we have a discussion here and maybe find a different way to do this because she's putting two people up there. One person's going to get more questions than the other and you're at least presenting the possibility that one person is going to get all the questions exactly. It's also tough in locker rooms back in the day when they put two wage people up at once we walk in locker room, you know, oh shit. What do we do? You're missing one. You're going to the other the players mad that more going to him or to them. And so it's like this whole big thing. But yep, krejci leaving as a greater retiring after next year going home is like probable it's probable. So I mean if you feel sad you feel like I just don't know like it's just been so long since that has been since the temperatures been taken there. Who knows maybe plays out the year and maybe he does the Char thing. He just he wants a stick around on forever like shorter cheaper deals, but maybe he wants to go home. So as is the case with Rask if you're the Bruins, you're probably looking at like, okay what is dead? What's our future with this guy? It's funny with the veterans. You have like the charas the Bergeron's from never want to feel like they always going to be there. They want to keep playing they want to keep getting kicked the can and you have like krejci and Rask would like you don't know what they're funny personalities. You don't know what to expect. You know, like you've Rascal leaving the bubble for a good reason but leaves the bubble and you have creates use kind of, you know can be a weird personality. So you don't really know what to expect with them. I don't know. I don't know weird person. I just think they're like he gets Like he's been a sort of Star Center who has spent his entire career on a team with essentially the mayor of Boston home. So his his relationship to like the media and attention is Pretty unique because I think that on a lot of other teams, he's probably like the guy and getting a lot of attention. Whereas with the Bruins that's not the case because Patrice Bergeron exists. So I think that we hear from him less often and there's less of I know like every month the the media that covers them is sort of less plugged into that I think because Patrice Bergeron exists, what seems like birds runs had more Resurgence over the past five years compared to krejci who was really their top-line Center up until I'd say probably twenty thirteen ish. Yeah. That's when I was Horton left. That was when he stopped being the top-line center, but that's when he was off before I let you go Vineyard Knights who how did that come together? I screw around with music stuff all the time anyway, but I just make like little I like incomplete songs and just send them to be friends and then don't do anything with them because I I I'm going to keep stealing this quote from my friend Wayne Whitaker. He said one time that he he likes music so much that he's afraid that sometimes he's afraid to make it because he doesn't want to like ruin music, you know, or he doesn't want to contribute music that doesn't live up to the standard that music like has in his heart and his mind so I very much get that when meanwhile is like an actual incredible professional musician, and I'm just a dope but the laptop, but I'd written a song. Vineyard nights because I myself and brunch had a weird little partnership going with a music festival on Martha's Vineyard off and I just I wrote a song called Vineyard nights about Martha's Vineyard and I'd never been to the vineyard before so it was a little tongue-in-cheek and it was a little weird and then the pants pocket and while I was like finishing that song and I just kept right for whatever reason I just kept writing songs called Vineyard nights because I thought the concept of project with everything is called the same thing is would be kind of funny and weird. So I made like I didn't finish all of them, but I made seven songs. And then Diane coffee who's an artist. I love I found and is also uh friend I sent the demos too. And he was like yo finish these put them out. I'll help you. So he helped me he played on some he saved on some and then he played and at least he sang on two of them played on all three and yeah, then this great mix engineer Tim Smiley mix them and put them and it was weird because it was the first time I've truly like seen any sort of musical project through and been like hey everybody. This is some music I made please listen to it, but yep. Felt good to put it out and everyone was super nice and not at all mean which is like I think the first time in Internet history that people were just so nice and receptive and and not not horrible. It's recording on History the first time in in Internet history that that's happened. There's three gangs. There's a 240 gang that you 48 gang and a 3:05 gang from you all to know that there's three Vin your nights. They're all those lights. I was a 240 guy, but we have a big in my my house. We I with a bunch of friends. We have a big boom box off and I said my friend made this these songs were going to listen to them and you're going to tell me what you think and they like 2:40, but it wasn't really their vibe to 2:48. I think there was a song we listened to 3:05 and we were like, oh shoot. That's the one I think I'm now part of the 305 gang. So I moved up I moved to 3:05 from 2:40. So 3:05 is the dog. CS number for sure. 2:40 is a bit Melancholy. It's nice and mellow I like it. Yeah, and a little sad 248 is dead. 248 is like I think best suit like sounds like something that I would have made because it's it's it's by far the weirdest of the three and my favorite of the three. I've not had a lot of people there. I do not believe there is a strong 248 gang but I will be the the only member of that if maybe but yeah, it's funny that the 240 gang it was happening for a little bit and now it's kind of subsided but people were making memes before this song came out there making memes throughout the week. And then once the songs came out they were able to make more specific memes and I found there was a subculture of the vineyard nights meme dead. That that aggressively liked to 40 and would make like anti other other Vineyard nights memes in public like support of 2:40. So be I don't know be like I can't even I'll get like the example of like the silly Drake meme or whatever, but it would be someone like ducking like the other ones so they can listen to 2:40. So just like wage obviously being only in support of too far you which you can like a mall you can like one of them you can do whatever but yeah. I'm glad I took em out I want to keep when I when I make stuff going forward. I actually want to see it through like I did like like I did with that so hopefully took down the road, but but we'll see we'll see you was I was a interesting weird-ass thing to do and I'm glad I did it must have been fun though. I mean to see that through still though not the best contribution to age are the internet you've given this year. The best was shity. NHL gifts everyone. Oh, yeah. That was the best. Yeah. She NHL gifts. That was me and Pete Blackburn just During exactly that making shity NHL gifts. We would we were like making horrible memes and just sending them to each other not even tweeting them because we were like we were like these are these are my thoughts from my Twitter. Not quite for Pete's. Yeah yours more than pizza. It's I I'm a little more unapologetically weird Pete is pretty accessible. I think that he beats not going to confuse a lot of people, you know, like true Pete Pete is far more capable to stick with the music analogy Pete's far more capable of making like a top forty hit then some weird Buchan chewy thing that only a few people will like I'm I'm more the I want to make something weird that like two people will find funny, but hopefully they'll find it real. It's it's niche versus appealing to the masses and subject. Right, right, right. So it's way better at that latter one than me. But yeah, we were making just weird weird memes and send them to each other and then Pete was like why don't we have an account that just puts these out. I was like that. Actually we were we were doing them for like days before he suggested it. So it was kind of funny that it took us that long to figure it out. But yeah, we've we slowed down a little bit but like the Only Rule we had was there has to be some weird John Tortorella Obsession off because that's a like greedy and Tortorella are like the cliche things for hockey people to be obsessed with for whatever reason so we were like, let's just leaned all the way in Palm to John Tortorella. And that's shity NHL gifts and it was perfect gifts know they aren't that's the best part. They really aren't gifts but should NHL gifts figured nights. NBC Sports Boston brunch. Oh, yeah. That is DJ B and DJ as always. Thank you for joining. Hopefully we had one more as time goes on. Yeah, but so of course, I'm a real party and who knows maybe this will be the most boring weekend Bruins history, but I'm afraid that's going to happen. I'll be I'll be I'll have my popcorn ready. That's all I'm saying. I'm I'm excited. I hope something big happens cuz then we can say we called that too. So we call it, no matter what if anything happens we call that like if the Bruins draft somebody the second round off a new and we called that yeah, that was our was our scoop, but DJ's always thank you for joining and for CLS me. I am Aronofsky you Bruce be listeners. Have a great rest of your week off. We created working it out for calling the fight. I just want to say a missing package. I saw you wrote me today. Just reply.

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Blue No More

"Kevin Durant has confirmed surgery on his torn achilles the way that millennials do with Instagram Killys came as a complete shock Irving is gonna hit the market. He said by his agent. You might be teammates next year but he wouldn't be playing with game six NBA finals two nights. Tight. Oh my goodness. Over the Saint Louis blues. I. Our goal is to make the ecosystem football better fill. We think that we fit that mold alliance. No more there is no sponsorships. There is no marketing, there are no football employees. What what you see change your perception of abbey sporting events? Get this. This is outside the lines Ryan Smith here. How unlikely is the blue Stanley Cup win that and the inside story of the AFC rise, and fall, including the answer to this question with their founder, do it all over again? Those stories are coming up. But first, this big one. The latest chapter in Kevin Durant injury saga sakes, could be higher for the warriors tonight in game six season on the line in their last game. At oracle, the NBA's oldest arena with the raptors at championship point. But at least one aspect of their lives as clear their time finals MVP is on the mend Durant, Instagram yesterday that, yes, he did rupture his achilles. Saying, quote, I'm okay basketball is my biggest love and I wanted to be out there that night because that's what I do. I wanted to help my teammates on our quest for three peat adding, I know my brother's can get this game six and his warrior brothers are focused on getting this one for him just thinking about enjoying this last week show. Oracle, we're about to give fans expect fans be last they've ever been, especially in the name of Kevin, bringing his type of spirit, he would bring to the fight, and in the competitiveness, nor fans will do that, because we deserve, more importantly, Kevin does what he gave this team organization. All right. So for the latest on the story, let's welcome in the host of who collected podcast. Bryant went horse. So Brian minutes before Durant posted that message Steve Kerr, basically, said, look, we don't have any news on Durant. So the question everybody's asking is did he not tell them? Well, they didn't have any news for the media under rant, but I can assure you that they were well aware what was happening with Kevin. I think they just wanted to give him space to make his own announcement. Obviously, they were well aware that Kevin went to New York to get the MRI and the surgery they were keeping in constant contact with his agent. This is not unusual. In the NBA players. Go off to see their own surgeons all the time. It usually doesn't happen in this kind of stage and these kind of timing, that's a window. Okay. Well, that's good and kind of falls in line with the warriors have been saying all along. We're trying to respect Kevin Durant, and his process as well. Okay. So let's talk about Kyrie Irving. Let's talk about the dominoes that are falling at least as we hear with respect to free agency, reportedly. He's thinking about putting out. He's now taking on rock nation as his management company. Parting with his longtime agent, reading the tea leaves here. How do you think all of this affects Kyrie's future? Right. This is one of those things where timing. Seems very strange kyri it out had actually been thinking about this plotting this for some period of time, only he knows when he made the actual decision this had been his agent since his rookie year, though. And Jeff Wexler is a guy who has only had a few clients, in focus specifically on kyri. So it was surprising but not completely unexpected. The interesting thing is rock nation has close ties to the Brooklyn. Nets thrown by Jay z who obviously at one time was was a team owner of the nets the, the guy who leads the nets is brother is the president of, of rock nation. So there's a lot of connections here and you could make certain leaps. That said, I don't think that an agent representation they will determine just work really gonna play. But certainly Ryan tea leaves, as you said show, Kyrie Irving is headed towards Brooklyn. Okay. And speaking of another big time, free agent Leonard. How does Durant injury situation affect him? Good question Kawai sort of operates in his own orbit. You know, there's been a lot of talk about Durant, and Kyrie Irving teaming up. There's been talk about LeBron teaming up with players. There's been speculation that a team may try to sign a big free agent, then trade for Anthony Davis, specifically the New York Knicks. There's been none of that with coli he operates independently. He has a very small circle doesn't communicate a lot with other players in the league. So I think Kawai is going to do his thing. No matter what, what is that going to be or all waiting to find out? Oh, can't wait until free agency season starts these. It's not over yet. And we're already jumping, Ed. We can't help ourselves Brian. Thank you. And unbelievable journey. That was in last place on January third kept fighting. They kept scratching they kept on more than a half, century of waiting over St Louis blues. Cup champions, back home to say, say can't be more better. It's really everything we love about. What a see that was an in the thick of it was ESPN senior NHL writer. Gregoire shinsegei. He's finally right here with us after being in Boston last night. So good to see you, my friend. Thank you. Thank you, so put it in perspective for us. House apprising was the Stanley Cup victory for the blues. We'll consider the fact that the Saint Louis blues were in last place. In the entire National Hockey League on January second surged back with a new coach with a rookie goalie and Jordan bidding ten to make the playoffs, and then just rolled I mean one couple series that they weren't favored in, and then against the Boston Bruins got it out. The thing about this team that I'll always remember is overcoming adversity whether it's the wacky hand pass and overtime against the sharks. Or the fact that Bennington is now fourteen into after losses in his career. In the National Hockey League. This team just new head to park it when there was a versity. So what was it like being among the C Bruins fans with the blues doing what they do. It was quiet. The blue head in Boston. Often they knew it was the blues played exactly the road game. They had to play, you know, they had to play five on five. Don't go on the penalty kill against Boston who had the best power play since nineteen Eighty-one in the NHL. Don't go on the power play themselves because they were one for eighteen. They were horrible. So the game was played at even strength and the only way they're going to win this Cup is if they're like no penalties. And guess what? There was one penalty. It was a guy putting the puck over the glass for delay of game calling the first period. The game was played even if that was going to be the case. The blues were probably gonna win the game. That's exactly what happened. Okay. So I, I normally hate to do this, but I can't help it with the story of worse. I can the blues actually repeat next year. Is this lightning in a bottle, or do they really have a chance to run the table next? Jay got something. They got something there players, whether it's rhino riles thin, but can they really do it? They can their players are mostly under the age of twenty eight the kid Jordan, bidding ten that's the real question. Was that lightning in Bali isn't going to be the next? Patrick wa or is going to be next Cam ward, we don't quite know. But I do know this that. Kids got ice water in his veins and overall the scene. The core of it is still very strong. I think we might be hearing from blues again next season. I'll tell you what we'll be hearing from you a lot. Everybody thinks Greg now goes home and takes a nap for the next couple of months. No draft everything else coming up, you're always a busy man. Thanks for spending time with. Thanks for having me. Three weeks ago, C C Telfer made history becoming the first publicly out, trans woman to win an NCAA track and field title taking the four hundred hurdles by a second and a half and the two thousand nine hundred ninety two championships, but her road to the top has been anything but easy tell for initially competed in the men's category at division to Franklin Pierce college, but after transitioning took part in the women's competition for her senior year, since that time she has had to withstand the heckling and withering criticism of those contest or gender. She's faced vitriol online, the president's son tweeted that her success was a quote, grave injustice to women, what few understand, is that she is undergoing hormone replacement therapy, just to participate in the women's competition per NCAA rules. Let's bring the NCAA division to four hundred hurdles champ CC tougher. How's it feel when you hear that? Oh, gosh. Honestly, I'm still getting used to it. So it's, it's honestly, very breathtaking comforting because I did work hard for it and you weren't hard. And you had to endure a lot some of we've read that's been said to you online heckling. You've had to face. I can't imagine what that's like talk about what it was like for you to have to endure that during this rush of the championship. So my coaches really did a very good job at tackling that and really getting me as soon as soon as that race was over coming off the track there. Like I need you to stay off social media for like forty eight hours. So they were really like on it, since since the start, they had security guards there that I didn't even know about. And they were really different protection. So I didn't really see all of the negative all of the negativity. All the bashing the backlash from it. I had friends who did see that. And they did message me and tell me what was going on. And they were like we're here for you. They're giving it was all positive energy. And that's what does feeding off of. So I didn't really get to see the negative bashing the negativity. So, you know, I think the criticism that has been levied at you is that here you are doing this. You've got an advantage people say over cisgenders women, you've actually said it's the opposite. Yes about confirmed. So if not anything me competing against fits, genders, females is a disadvantage, because my body is going on, on going through so many medical implications. Like it's going through biochemistry changes. So being on Homer and placement therapy, it, it gives you. So you're most of the pollution, your muscle tear. You're eating you lose a lot of strength because testosterone is where you get your strength, your Gilady all that athletic stuff. So I have to work twice as hard to keep that strength. And if I slack a day, that's like three days set behind. So I have to continue to keep up my workout to keep on top of mice thing I can't drink. I can't like eat unhealthy or else it's going to impact me harder and going into the blocks. And people don't know running go into the box training. I get lightheaded. I get on dizziness nausea, like when that gun goes off and I that I step out. I lose all leg. I lose all like focus basically. I the dizziness is so intense that I really have to together, but like being an indoor championships. I, I got used to it and working working out in practices, and going through those tedious aggressive workout days. I my body's gotten used to it, and like I've gotten used to like. Handling and focusing on like how to stay straight and upright and for the first thirty seconds. I'm breathing in my getting into it, it becomes numb. I have to ask you this a little bit of time left. What is your message to others out there who maybe facing criticism over their identities? O rien. My message to others out there who are facing criticism over there is that to ignore it and to live their best life and their authentic life. Because nobody else is going to do that for them. And they know their true selves. So these they know who they are, and they should just be themselves because at the end of the day, there's no, there's, there's no time there's no time to be flaunting over something that you can't control. And people are always going to have an image of other people are going to have something to say and you can't change it because of their egotistical mentality. So you can't change it. So might as well just move on to move forward. Well said happy for you. Congratulations. Again, you glad you joined us today. Thank you, having the. Here's more stuff that matter six men, including the alleged gunman are in custody and several other suspects are still at large in the Sunday shooting. Former Red Sox star David Ortiz, in the Dominican Republic police are alleging that the man who coordinated the shooting off to four hundred thousand Dominican pesos or about seven eight hundred dollars to carry out the crime, but they declined to identify who offered the money. Meanwhile, according to update some more teases wife, Tiffany. Big Papi is in guarded condition, but as able to sit up and take some steps he remains in the intensive care unit in Boston, Mass General hospital. Kicked off with big fanfare and strong ratings two months later, the af filed for bankruptcy. How did it all fall apart inside story with wicker sham? I can't believe it. Let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it get their loan to get there. I'll learn and get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button, do what's this button, do what's this? Believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Outside the lines is brought to you by WalMart. Discover more ways to shop at WalMart today. In today's be blocked the rise and fall of the alliance of American football. A new football league seems to pop up every few years, there was the world football league in nineteen seventy four the USFL nineteen Eighty-three the XFL in two thousand one and the eleven by the way in two thousand fourteen this year, the alliance of American football launch, but like the others before it, it crafts, spectacularly ESPN Sedgwick or sham and Michael Rothstein explore the toxic mix of ego mismanagement and blind ambition along with the lack of financing that led to the meteoric fall of the af. Charlie ever saw seem to have the right pedigree to do something. No one else had successfully launch a spring football league that would complement not compete with the NFL the son of former NBC, sports, executive dick Ebersol, Charlie believed. His league would be a true alliance between the fans the players and the game. Welcome to the alliance of American football better known as the af. It was the summer of twenty seventeen Charlie met with former NFL GM, and then ESPN analyst Bill Polian in Cape Cod diner, provided, you can get the capital and the television coverage. It's workable, pulling and said. On March twentieth. Two thousand eighteen ever saw officially announced the. All it needed was money. Lots more money. The af was already behind schedule on everything from practice facilities to stadium leases, ever saw told Polian we gotta get this thing moving. Or we won't make it Reggie Fowler. A former USF fell linebacker was the league's primary investor. He made a fortune business, but also carried a questionable financial reputation in two thousand fourteen Fowler. Lost limited ownership stake in the Minnesota Vikings after it was reported that he had defaulted on financial obligations. In the spring of twenty eight team the alliance at tens of millions of dollars in the Bank. Nothing to the hundred and fifty million in needed Fowler offered one hundred seventy million despite Fowler's checkered past ever sold took the deal. Fowlers promised millions were mostly. In late December Ebersol confronted Fowler. This is not effing acceptable. He said, if you don't start properly funding us, I will shut the company down. But at eight PM on Christmas a thirteen million dollar deposit from Fowler arrived in the af account. It's a Christmas miracle Ebersol told his wife, whatever didn't know was that just months before the government had frozen chunk of Fowler's money as part of a forthcoming fraud indictment. He was ultimately arrested and pled, not guilty. On February ninth. The first af game kicked off on CBS the San Antonio commanders against the San Diego fleet. Ever saw had done it. However, the good times we're short lived within days. The alliance would miss its first payroll. Tom Dondon billionaire, owner of the NFL's Carolina, Hurricanes about the AFC plight and wasn't treat a fast agreement came together. Over the phone publicly said he was in for the long haul at two hundred and fifty million dollars privately key only committed to keeping af open on a weekly basis on buying the option. On Dunton told a confidante. He immediately ordered tens of millions in cuts. We can operate this league fifty million we'll have a league and business done. Didn't try to renegotiate a new deal with CBS and to partner with the NFL neither effort was successful. By April didn't hit spent seventy million dollars. But the league was still hemorrhaging cash, shutting down at five pm today would have done dissociates told ever. So we're announcing we're shutting down ever saw last. No, everyone is fired at five pm today. Lawsuits. Bankruptcy outraged abandoned employees in players. That's the AFC legacy from kickoff to crash fifty two days, but ever saw says, he wouldn't have done anything differently what I do it all over again, knowing exactly how it was going to end. Yes. A thousand times over. That is my point right there, the story by Seth and Michael RAF seen called inside the short unhappy life of the alliance of American football on ESPN dot com. A must read folks trust me. We got set here with us right now. So look set let's talk about this. There was all this talk about when the league failed all the pointing fingers who was at fault. Take us inside that discussion. You talked to ever saw you talked to others of what that process was like. Yeah. The process was chaotic, but at the end of the day, you saw the information on there on Reggie Fowler. I don't think they ever recovered from it at the end of the day they had to go against with man reported five hundred million dollars putting behind the XFL. They had nowhere near that money. And so they had to take the deal that Reggie offered. Looked good at the time. Charlie Ebersol said that he vetted his lawyers vetted. He had Felder meet with board members executives, even his dad, but at the end of the day, he didn't come through with the money when he was supposed to and they were never really able to. Cover from that. And what did done didn't say to you about his business decision to get involved with this, we'll look the lore of spring football is one of those things as you said a couple minutes ago. It's one of those things that people can't resist right at it has this many knows how the league's work. I mean, he's got his due diligence, what have told a confidant that he was a stupid decision. He said he didn't do enough to diligence. And, you know again Charlie ever saw had done. He had it was miraculous that he got the league off the ground. And that's the hard part, I think Dunton was intrigued by this. And he thought, hey look, if we can get a partnership with the NFL to be a true developmental league or if we can get a broadcast deal that's not a time by which is what those were then this thing might have a shot. And it was only when he got into it that he realized that the finances were way out of whack. He thought that they spent too much money on coaches and players and he didn't see this thing, succeeding, now one thing you. Highlighted. Your article is some of the cultural differences between guys like Ebersol of guys like Bill Polian talk about that, specifically when example around the draft. So there at the NFL combine twenty eighteen and they are nervous because the league hasn't launched yet they're trying to keep it secret. So they have a Bill is working for us at the time doing drafts all day long. They go to a private room at a restaurant, the turns out the private room surrounded by glass, they threw a fit they go to a different place, so they sit down. And they start talking about ideas for the inaugural. A after after the first idea that Polian has is for it to be like the US, F L, which is where he worked where teams hold the territorial rights to players. So Rick new highs Charlie ever. So they'll have a different idea where they want the players who are in demand to be able to pick their teams and pulling tired, he's just like what do they say? It's like the voice, and he's just like. And. Did not over. Well, it's the greatest show these red chairs and they turn around when they hear the voice that they like. But the singers can pick who they want to coach them in pulling was tired. He was irritable, Rick Schafer, who is there, who is the senior counsel to the said you could see the steam coming out of his ears and wholly into says, I can't take any more of this, and the discussion ended there about, what kind of draft goodness couple of how close were they really to becoming a developmental league for the NFL not close. You know, I think they hoped they were closer than they were. But the end of the day they were talking about unprecedented language that would go into the collective bargaining agreement. The might have taken months or years to get in the NFL PA didn't wanna do it. They felt like look you're talking about playing during our off players to play in the spring. That's the off season that we fought so hard to get them for. And if they get hurt who's going to, you know that could hurt their NFL gonna be a tough and the NFL. Meanwhile, is like you know, this isn't something that we do often because we can't be seen favoring one of these leagues over another. Do you trust law? So you know what? I don't think we've seen allows Charlie ever saw. But this is a great piece. Thank you. Thanks. All right. We'll be right back. Don't forget game six tonight at or call catching on ABC covers starts at eight thirty eastern. NFL live is.

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Early Assessments

"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Monday digital game has conduct. I am down the Greco Monday always means EJ Radic from the NFL network. And you'll now Monday through Friday, four to six PM eastern time. How are you buddy. I'm good. How are you? Good, probably better than the Rangers probably better than the other flyers, blue jackets and kings with with all these injuries. Let's put the Rangers aside for a second, but you wake up this morning, find out van rims dyke out five to six weeks, lower body injury, Brandon, dubinsky out four to six weeks with a quad, Jonathan quick. It's injured in practice. I mean, you know, with things being so tight, right? And really, I think the regular season is so meaningful for a lot of these teams, especially like Philadelphia and Columbus were really nothing is promised to you. These are pretty significant injuries to have to deal with early in the season. Yeah. And remember that the jackets are also dealing with the loss of Steph Jones, who's out for a company that's another, you know, issue for them and with the other cloud kind of around their team in in Borowski and Pinera and as potential restrictive free ages July. So, yeah, I mean, it is so close and you know, you don't win the Cup in October November, but. You can play yourself out of it with a bad start. I mean, the coyotes wash your that they're a team that we expected to do well last year, but they had such a bad start to the season historically bad start to the season that they were done into November and the Oilers went through a similar thing. And you know, like Arizona played very well down the stretch, but it was, you know, they were so far out of it. They had absolutely no chance. So you know, you don't want to you you, you're not gonna win every game, but you'd like to, you know, win as often as you can't early and try to build up a little cushion. If you can't and you like this, they healthy and so forth. Some of these teams are being what some significant injuries. Yeah, they are and we'll see how they they deal with for sure, trying to learn a little bit more about the quick injury in practice. Remember he got hurt last year which obviously affected that were they were in the standing. So we'll keep an eye on all those things. Of course, a lot of our people that listen to this, listen to the Rangers lose their first three games of the season. I thought they were exceptionally competitive against Nashville. I thought they didn't get the breaks against buffalo forty four shots on Carter Hutton and just could not figure them out as made forty. Three saves last night's a mystery to me. I mean, really didn't play while defensively Gyorgy of was not good, and they end up losing eight five to a Carolina team EJ keep your eye on who's allotted could young players on that team and you see, was it seven, eight different players, new head, coach, new general manager. They're off to a great start at two. Oh, and one or two? Two. And why I gotta tell you that this this, this Carolina team was pretty impressive. They're one of those teams that if they're gonna make a push this year. It's gotta start. Now it had to read how to really start right on opening night. You know, I was, we'll choke about wells. It's a must win game on opening night. And you know, obviously it's not quite to that extent. But you know, teams like that if they're going to push through, they've gotta get points and they've got to start to believe early and gain some confidence. And you know, they've been able to do that. They had a really good performance against the islanders open opening night that over forty shot. They ended up losing it overtime. You know, just Greis played terrific for the honors not game. They bounced back on short rest. Columbus was on short rest as well. They went and then spoiled Columbus own old home opener on one. And now they have this, you know, come from behind victory over the Rangers and you know they gotta be feeling good about themselves right now. You're right. I mean they have a pretty good group of defense. They have some really some interesting young forwards, and you know the question will be, you know, how's the goaltending going to be between darling? And you know. And Peter Murata and you know, they mcelhinney nocco hang on labor. So I mean, you know, how are they gonna get through with the goal to have. But I guess when you score eight goals in a game, you don't have about your bowl done in too much, but you know, we'll see Carolina. You know, again, the islanders and the Rangers were pegged as non playoff teams to start the season in Columbus, dealing with some injuries. So you know, those winds are Goodwin's. You only can beat the team that your plan, but you know, let's the when they're playing some of these other teams very Montreal's. Another team that we had pegged to be for it to be another tough season for them and they've come out and they were very competitive and losing overtime to Toronto. And then they went in and really hammered Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. I believe it was five one now or nothing they got. Yeah, you know, these, these teams, they understand the circumstances. They get a lot of us against the world kind of talk and chatter in their in their dressing rooms in there in the build up to their season. You know that, hey, nobody believes in. It's not going to be a powerful thing particularly when the league is so close that usually the games are decided by one goal, and that's the coughs been good. He gets his first National Hockey League goal. Last night may cast who they drafted twelfth overall in twenty seventeen picked up a couple of points. So yeah, good young team for sure. And we'll keep an eye on Carolina. But you know, back to the Rangers before the game against Carolina, David Quinn said, I've got to make sure these guys don't get rattled. I mean, they played well, but you get judged on the scoreboard. They lost the first two games of the season. Now it's three in a row. The first time, the ranges of lost the first three games of a season regulation. Since ninety eight ninety nine, those are the dark days of the Rangers and with the sharks coming in on Thursday, albeit without Joe Thornton, still a huge test. So it's tough with it with a with a new coach first time in the National Hockey League, it'll be curious to see what direction this goes into because here's David Quinn, you know, barely weakened to the job and he's now face with his first. Real dilemma trying to end a long losing streak. Yeah, this is, you know, this is how it's going to be, you know, in some portions of the season for the Rangers they're, they're rebuilding. I mean, there's no other word to say. They have a lot of young players that they're trying to work into the lineup of their, you know, when you look at their group of the fence, men, not not awful, but not like the ranger defense that we're used to over the last several years. So they've got some young players they're working in back there, and you know, this is going to be a work in progress. This is, you know, this is kind of they've got the curtain up and and the working to kinda build this thing. So it's gonna be. There's gonna be some tough flooding along the way. It's, you know, back to back games, you go into the Carolina. Like I said, they're really hungry and year to go to a good start there. They've been. They haven't had the success. The Rangers have had that Carolina hasn't made the plow zone since two thousand nine. So right. You know. It's it's, it's gonna be a process for the Rangers. As I say, they're going to be nights like this, and that was one of them and we'll see now they got a couple of days off and get ready for percent of day, and you know, Henrik wider quits. They'll be back in goal on on Thursday night and that'll make a world of difference. I mean, he's going to be, you know, such a valuable piece in this part of this early rebuilding because he's going to be able to they hope, you know, keeping the games, maybe if he was in goal last night and it's Brian on Georgia, but I mean, let's face it. Henrik Lundquist is Ellie goaltender. Maybe if he's in there last night, he could settle things down for them, but you do have a couple of days to put it behind him and and get ready for a very a difficult challenge against the sharks. We do have a dilemma, right? Because if this is a full blown rebuil-, right, you're playing the kids, you're letting them get their feet wet. They're letting them get through their problems. But as you mentioned when you have Hanko world-class goaltender when you have, you know, shattenkirk in the second year of a long contract, you know, you bring back Kevin Hayes on a one year deal. So. Obviously, there's motivation to play him on that second line. So you're kind of in between, right? You've got the veterans you wanna serve so that you can be possibly a playoff team, but you don't want it to come at the expense of the kids in a perfect example of that and listen, this is coming from a place of a fan her. I 'cause I like Kevin shattenkirk a lot. I think he's a good guy. I think he's a good player, but does it make sense to play seven defensemen last night and cut into the time for the Angela? I think the Angelo deserves to play and maybe in a perfect world, you can have shattenkirk be healthy scratch. So the Angelo can play yet played the first two games of the season. Shattenkirk struggled a little bit, but you get that betwixt and between right where you want to be competitive, you have won the first two games you want shattenkirk in there, but does it make sense long term for it to come at the expense of the minutes for a Tony Dangelo? Yeah, those are the questions that David Quinn will have to answer questions about living Kevin shattenkirk to the second year. I believe a four year contract, and you know he was a particular type defensive and he's. Kind of an offense, defense, many, some of them hopes you're on the power play doesn't really defend all that well, but you know, he's played in big games and he's played them play big minutes and you're right. I think this is the women. I think really Kevin shattenkirk probably would be best served to be moving somewhere else where he could be a fit, the team that has a chance to be successful. I don't know if it makes sense for for Kevin to be here under these circumstances, but we know when he signing, you know, he's, he was a ranger fan growing up and you know they hit and dream to come into the Rangers. And I don't think he has any desire to leave. And you know, they just signed last year so they knew what they were kinda getting into there. So, but you're right at the end of the day, you gotta play, you know, you're, you have younger players there and their success. We have to give an opportunity to play. So that will be the dilemma for David Quinn moving forward. We've only played three games, so it is. It is really in this thing and maybe you know, they'll I'm sure that they will have better efforts moving forward. But you know, these are. Will be questions. And you know, again, I look at it and Kevin shattenkirk to me is a is a piece. He's somebody that can help eighteen. There's already a competitive team that has a good sturdy group of defenders that someone can come in and play on the power play and play in particular situations of the game. And I don't know if the Rangers were team that had deed right now, you were mentioning teams that were expected to be underachievers that got off the great starts, Montreal as looked very good, hot Chicago and boy takes his really bounceback. I know it's very early, but I, you can make a claim that his off season really put Takagi behind the eight ball last year. And now they come in and granted, they lost a wild game last night, but it will. It didn't come at the expense of what Kane and tapes Rabl to do just how about the star for Chicago? How much does it surprise you? Well, it's a surprise me a bit, but I mean, let's face it. We know they have high end guys there with the cane and as and I guess they didn't like finishing with seven less than any point. I season in those guys have come in and got no feel great start. I mean, they both have six points they days. I guess that's five goals. Kane has four. So those guys are driving the bus right now of Cam ward has come in and play. Okay. Early on the play back to back nights that wasn't so good last night in that kinda crazy game with Toronto, which is a lot of fun to watch a lot of goals back and forth all the white guys. We're all I mean, all the teams and Kane, and Austin Matthews and John Taveras. I mean, all the stars were shining in that one. But yeah, they've been on through good start. They've gotten five out of their first six points. They've been able to battle back and games. They rallied against all auto. They Raleigh didn't think Lewis and they were able to rally in this game at home against Toronto and get the thing to overtime and got a point there or so the top guys are playing well and. That's they've, they've got some new guys that have stepped in. There's Anri. I don't even know if I can pronounce his last name. You'll be Karu. You don't have to work on that one, but he's got five points and he's a plus five and three games on defense. So you know, maybe if this young guy can come in and being helpful player for MAC, you're just another piece to the puzzle. But when you're high end guys like those two at the top ks ks and and even Duncan, Keith has got three assists so far they're driving the bus that makes you that makes that team a lot more dangerous than you know, we'll see if Corey Crawford kid ever get back in the mix because if you can't, at some point that makes their team a little bit more dangerous certainly does. And you know, we mentioned Carolina hundred twenty one shots on goal. In the first three games of the season. You take a look at some of these scores and not just the scores EJ of the games because we have seen a lot of two one games. I'll give you an example. You know, Tampa wins to one and a shootout over the weekend against Florida. Florida had forty three shots on goal. You know. Vegas wins two to one in a shootout over Minnesota Vegas at forty two shots on goal. I mentioned the Rangers with forty four shots on goal against buffalo with one goal, Arizona who's yet to score so far this season still had floating one shots on goal against Anaheim. So what we're seeing is just a lot of opportunities. Does that make sense early that maybe the offense is the head of the defense? Yeah, I think so. I think we've seen this over the last several years as you see a lot more high scoring games really starts to things start to get dial back in the themes start to get into their defensive structure a little bit better. I, I'm hoping that it's not the case. I mean, I hope that it continues because I love these games. I think the fans really exciting when there's back and forth. I mean, that was exciting last night. Which auto in Chicago sport? Yeah, several times in the last like minute and a half of the game and going into overtime. And so I hope it's not the case, but I get the sense just my. Experience tells me that these kind of things we do see in early in the year and it kind of over time. It starts to draw back the other way, and the guys get more intense and you know, there is a more, you know, the teams are settled more and I say they're settled into their structures. One thing to keep in mind though, is they change. They worked on this goalie equipment a little bit and this year we're saying that leaner chest protector and you know, maybe that is something that contribute to that can contribute to if you goals this year because the puck might fly through guys a little bit easier or you know, just might, you know, Cam and go backwards instead of kind of kidding that those big kinda thick chest protectors and dead stop. I mean, a lot of the line we use I've used over the years. I'm sure I use it with you. Don is protected. The goal is not the goal right? Protect the person, the player on the the four by six. And so maybe that has is having something to do with it as well. We'll see. We're only you know, we're less than a week and this whole thing. But it's exciting to have a bunch of goals and have a bunch of scoring opportunities. And you know, I think that's what people come in and pay money to go see they, they wanna see exciting games and even if the game as low scoring, if they're seeing a lot of shots and chances and flow. I mean, that's a good product. You know what's interesting is like last night I had a ball calling that ranger hurricanes game because it was so much back and forth so many opportunities. But you know, the coaches are pulling their hair out, right? So more entertaining for the fans, the more the coaches are going to work trying to stop that from happening. So you have that dilemma of the coaches want a dumb it down, keep it low scoring, tighten it up. And meanwhile, with all these mistakes and all these chances, it makes for more exciting hockey. Yeah, that's exactly coke is we'll get to work on it and the videotape guys. We'll get to work on it and you know, but it is, you know, one of the things I find again, I don't know if this has been take place over the long. The long haul season, but we now have young players coming into league personal. Ours are as skilled that they've ever been just because of the the training and the way I know I'm at ranks with my son, and I see a lot of these kids doing all kinds of skill work and it's we, we don't know if we've ever had as much as we have now coming into this league. And we've seen a coal generation of kids now grow up with the idea of shooting against gold that do basically the same thing, which is they drop to their knees. They play that percentage butterfly game. And the area to shoot is is really under the bar. And if you watch them like an Austin Matthews is a young superstar in this league and and some of these other young stars. I mean, that's where that puck goes. There's no thinking about it. They get the puck, it that's blah areas that is the area they're shooting at because they know the goal is playing that percentage of taking away the low shot. And so maybe that's going to contribute to the ability to score a little bit more moving forward is that these young kids have grown up with that in mind. That's where to shoot. There's no reason to think about anything else. Just elevate the puck, get it under the bar. That area will be there for you. Almost all the time with the goal is playing the way they played. So I'll be curious to see if that is another thing that continues. You know, as we move forward, hopefully it will because we need more goals. I mean, I just think we need more. I know game as you know, this is this would be terrific if it would start to happen through the skill of the young players and maybe the whittling down a little bit of the goalie equipment, then we wouldn't have to do anything drastic like through, like maybe you know, make the net bigger. So mostly it's like if they it's a weekend on, there's so many things that are going to have to between now and then DJ and I are really up against it today time. Why? So if we don't get to your tweets today, we'll definitely get to them tomorrow and a little bit later in the week. Well, let's fire a few off before. Get a dodge here, and let's go to forever. THE says, should the leaps find a trade for knee Lander. Well, I think they have to consider what their options I think. You know, again, this is just me thinking is I find it hard to believe that they're going to be able to. They've signed to various big contract. They've got some other, you know, keep people like Morgan rod contract. Are they going to be able to have Matthews mourner and me land or all at the dollar figure these guys want? So that's gonna be the question. They do have some needs on defense. Maybe they take born or ordeal land or they move to try to get help on defense. So, but that said they have full control over knee land right now. He's not in a situation where he has many options the with all the services, and you know they're playing the long game right now. They have enough to get by and obviously he can score. We saw them put up seven last night they are that were sure they would like me Lander back on a contract that works for them, but they've been. Lot of considerations. They're called dubus Brennan Shanahan. When you think about their caps situation moving forward, Austin Matthews is twelve million dollar player, maybe more. I just think he is such an unbelievable player and he be rock. That's gonna make that team have an opportunity to win the Stanley Cup, their first of the franchises. I, it's nineteen sixty seven. So I guess for me what I'm saying and all this is that they've got a lot of things to consider there, and that would be probably one of them, but boy, William t. letters, talented player, and I think they'd love to have them there if they could figure out a way to do it. Ironically, this tweet comes just as the islanders or about the face off today. What are your expectations for the aisles this year according to Ricky or the question being asked by Ricky? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the honors will be, I think they'll be competitive. I think you know, we've talked about it already Donnie. I love the fact that they've got the really experienced a successful coaching staff there. Now with the with Barry trots you know, and again, it's no knocking anyone else. The reality is this, though that. You know, Barry trots has been doing this for a long time, and this leaves a lot of success. He just wanna Stanley Cup. So you know which when you know the Lou with Lewellen role with the way he wants to do things with Barry trots, having that kind of real experience and confidence behind the bench and knowing what needs to be fixed with this team, they need to be better in their own end. Their goal tender's needs to be more consistently good. You know, I think they'll be a competitive team. I don't think there were playoff team, but I think they will be better in their own end. And you know, I think there'll be a team that'll be we'll be hard to deal with night after night because they can score goals. There's no funding by by. They can still score goals. People without Taveras question will be will be able to play well enough defensively and keep pucks out of their net. They won their first game in large part because Greis by so well and stopped over for your shots that can't be the recipe for the islanders. They need to get those shot totals against down significantly able to do that. They're gonna. Maybe they have a chance to really hang around a long and be competitive. I like the bigger picture for the moving forward. I think with with Lou there and with Barry there, they have a chance to really move this franchise forward over the next couple of years. Jake wants us to assess what we think of illegal Kovalchuk so far in the NHL. Well, you know, it has only been a couple of games. They've got some some players injured there in LA, but you know, when you look at it, you know, point wise, these these contributed a couple of points ready to last night, right? Yeah, yes. To assistant two games plus choir. You know, he's got what five shots and says a two games. So, I mean, we'll have to watch more but so far it's it. It hasn't been bad. I mean, and I expected that you know, we only came in great shape from what I understand. You know, he's got a lot to prove and you know, again, my only concern would be it's a three year contract and you know, I don't know. You know, I think the best year you're gonna get coal truck is going to be this one and they got hope that you know that that COPA talk. Can use to play, like you mean to play like he played last year. I mean, that was the season the, you know, that might be the best season he'll ever give you. So could he get anywhere near that again, that would be terrific for them. And you know this whole thing with Jonathan quick being injured. I mean, it may make it all academic because Jonathan quick is injured and Alfred a significant amount of five. They're going to be trouble, but so far. So good for Coble chuckle watching them and we kind of touched a little bit on this, but KT wants to know any surprises. So far on the young NHL season. Well, I, you know, I mean, I think that's affected Montreal, always able to go into Pittsburg and just blasts them well against Toronto to. And they played very well against Toronto. And you know, I had very low expectations for for the Montreal Canadian. So I mean, that's one of those ones right away that you like. That's interesting, you know, carry price being good at be helpful to them. I don't even know if it's been all carry price. They've just really, you know, again, they've come out and they've, you know, they, you know these guys all know what's being said about them and they come out and really just work. Their rear ends off and Claude. Julien is an excellent coach, and you know he knows how to motivate team and have them play a good defensive kind of structure. So so far, so good, you know for Montreal. Okay. And even the Ottawa Senators come out and you know, they've had a, they had a win over the Leafs and overtime loss to Chicago where they had the lead. So that's been a competitive team. I mean, I think these early games, you know, these teams, they understand that they have to come out and play. You know, just play point there. Tails off to be successful. The question will be, you know, as we get through this first month and then the second month cannot continue. Can they continue to give you that kind of effort? What kind of injuries may they have, you know? So those are things to consider. You know, one of their team I wanna quickly mentioned the Dallas Stars. They've gotten off to start with zero, Jim Gumri. I mean, they had all kinds of trouble with Winnipeg over the last couple of years. Winnipeg is really had their number and yet Winnipeg came into Dallas and the stores they dust off pretty good. I think that was a five one game as well. So that was an impressive win for Dallas. And you know, again, we'll, it's going to be an interesting season because these teams are so close to one another and. You know time will tell, I mean, Saint Louis that's disappointing start. When you think about getting, you know, beat up by Winnipeg, but that's a good Winnipeg team and then losing, you know, blowing a lead and losing the Chicago on home ice. So that's a tough watch for them. So we'll see it's early and yeah, a lot of things that happened over the next several weeks that will change the dynamic of the things. We mentioned Carolina and I'm, I'm really surprised by them and their speed. They're really a terrific team. I think in the end of the day, whether it's Meraz darling or mcelhinney, they're probably going to be a little short on the goaltending side of things. But you know, the building was was alive and usually I do those ranger irking games. There's ten thousand people in the building and eight thousand ranger fans. I, you know, a lot of ranger fans in the building last night, but you know, on a Sunday, maybe they were all inspired by that sixty three yard Gano feel the giants decided to drive up the Raleigh and see the hurricanes play. Just want to touch on this to not surprised at all, but just an observation, the globe. Series out in Sweden, Edmonton and New Jersey, and it's only one game. But you know if the, if the devils are gonna get some production at his age, Jack, and he had two goals in that game that could be big for them. You know, because as we've talked about the devil's always seemed like short a goal unless halls just playing out of his head, but to be able to get a couple of goals from Paul, Mary and from Zajac and not reliant so much on hall, getting everything I thought was a nice step forward for the devils and boy that looked a lot like the Edmonton team that we saw last year EJ and wonder what kind of changes are going to be coming of this team again, gets off to a slow start. I think. Yeah, I think there are the potential for changes there. You know, we'll see. They gotta get back over to North America. I believe I got the Rangers on the schedule coming up Saturday afternoon before they had back out. I don't know what else they might have the islanders there as well. I'm not exactly sure. But the bottom line is they, they just need to be better and the goaltender needs to be better and they'd be better in front of them and you're absolutely right. If you know when I look at that roster, you know, we know what Connor mcdavid can do, but you know, there's still some real, some issues on the wing in terms of speed and some issues on the blue line and when their goalies and giving them this, the great performance that's going to be. You know, it's going to be a struggle, but a good win for the devils and a good little bonding experience for them over Europe. We'll see how that plays out for them moving forward. Calgary, a lot of expectations around that team Vancouver is supposed to look like an also ran, and yet they those two teams got a chance to play the start the season. And I didn't think Vancouver looked half. Bad, and I think Calgary can have an exciting season as well. Yeah, calories gotta clean up some of the plane their own end. I'm wasn't impressed with some of their defensive zone play, but I'll tell you one thing that Elias Pederson while he's gonna be fun to watch. Yeah, already piling up point out of the Vancouver Canucks and you know when blockbuster gets his game going again and you know war, they have some good young players. They're within their group and in Vancouver and I, I was really impressed with the way Travis screen had those guys working in its first year behind the bench. And you know, we'll we'll, I don't expect them to be a playoff team, but I expect, you know, they're like a couple of these rebuilding teams. They're moving forward and not Patterson. He's going to be anything like we've seen so far. I mean, that's the legit franchise type player in the middle year lineup. That's going to be a big, big loss. You draft these guys and you get them the chance to play and they're, they're all fast. And I guess we live in a world now where there's just there's a lot less physicality that maybe these coaches. Aren't that afraid to stick a young kid out there and and use the speed and utilize that quickness and not worried about them getting gobbled up too much? Well, it's the speed game. I mean, there's still some physical play involved, but at the speed game now, and if you, if you could skate and play at that, if you can do things at that pace, you got a chance to be successful in this league. So fun time I love it. I, like I said, I more offense and you know, these guys are so amazingly school. That's really unfortunate for fans that they all can't sit right along the glass every like, you know, take turns to really get close because when you sit really close, you could really see how just housing Gilman how fast and talented these guys on their skates. Yeah, and Dave Maloney was down ice level for the hurricanes game, and he's like my God. Just you really get a sense of just how quick and big physical players can be. You really get that sense. Unfortunately, you know, not everybody gets a chance to sit by the glass and see the game, air lose a little bit as far as the perspective of the open ice and the plays and all that. But if you. I really want to get a sense of the size of these guys species guy. That's yeah, right. Want be Columbus. AJ. Same you my friends. All right. And we got a lot of afternoon games going on now. That's why we didn't give you the schedule because by the time people are listening to this love of those games are going to be over. That's right. But I good luck to you want. Okay. I know you've got a lot of them as well, so. Well, not really. You know, it's like as you get older done, you know, you're not life and death with these things all when you're y'all, of course. But it would be nice to beat the Red Sox. Listen, there would there was there was a younger Don league-record that would have been in a fetal position last night after that loss to the Panthers. So, yeah, no question. But you have a couple of twins and you got work, and then you realize how easily you can bounce back that. That's right. Well, you know what I think for fans when you seen the ultimate success right. When you see and you saw the New York Giants when several Super Bowls. Now. The edge off. It does make the like when I was growing up as you know, it was a big islander fan. They won four consecutive Stanley Cups now at all the different circumstance for me because I got into the business, then I really, you know, I don't. I'm not. I view myself as kind of an honest broker for everybody, and I don't. You know, I try to give you my honest opinion about everybody. I don't really root for anybody, but you know, the Yankees had a lot of success. So it's, you know, you take the good with the bad, but it's it's when your team has never won and never won during your lifetime and you're sitting there and you're waiting your way that's when the frustration build and those losses become even more painful. So right. So we're tastes. You've seen a couple of Super Bowl sixty three yard field goal. What are you? Gonna do, right. So moral. The story is if you're a Blackhawks fan, hey, you won three times in a short period of time since two thousand teddy favored. But you know, if you're a connects fan, listen, he, you have no idea what he's talking about your bitterly. But he enjoy mount talk to you next week. All right. You got Donny lavar. That's the great EJ rat again, we had to make a quick here today tried to get more of your tweets tomorrow. I'll be back lots of games to recap. As I mentioned a lot of afternoon games, we'll get all into it tomorrow. Thanks again for listening. Enjoy Columbus Day. If you happen to be off. Great. 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Emptying Out The Notebook

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Emptying Out The Notebook

"Boom. Bang we done we done. Elliott last week. You said Gimme yellow laces. So Mike at skywalker zero, nine, two, eight. This week gives you yellow lace. Word Association. All right. I'm ready to be to ask myself why did I do this and just be mad? This is good. I like this one this is really smart. We'll start with Lilo line. You know the funniest Lilo, line story I remember first of all, you hope he's okay because he went through some real health concerns. So the first thing I think of when I think of his name is I hope he's doing all right and I hope everything's okay with them. But the best loyal Lilo line story I was ever told was when he was in Montreal they were playing Ottawa and. He was Lilo load line was a very tough guy and Ottawa had a guy who was a fighter named bill hewer. And Odor Line was Chirping and Hewitt on the bench said something along the lines of the he objected and he came at him and he's like I'm GonNa, get you You know all I wanNA fight you and apparently the line turn to him and said Yeah I've already beaten you. I'm not doing that again and that was the end of that. I'm looking at up now and I, guess he broke his nose in a previous fight. But the story I heard was he told him I've already beaten you. I'M NOT GONNA bother end of story, and apparently the Canadians all thought it was hilarious. Yet the was tough to, yes. He was we whenever we talk about tough hockey players from wellingborough talk about like Matt Johnston and Paul. And we should probably throw throw Hewitt in there as well. Damon Lonzo. This is not another September twenty seven thing, right? No because he's also got that birthday. That's why we mentioned him. Last week's is two weeks in a row. Trade from Tampa to Philadelphia Chris Gratton. And not, long after that trade, I can't remember now off the top of my head if it was same day right after but really keen to Toronto and Bob Clark Interviewing Bob Clark about the deal. I can't remember how it all went. But Clark, was like we're talking about everybody in that deal and he said you haven't asked me about Damon Elliott and I go I was going to get to it and he goes well good because he's a really good player. It was typical Bob Clark Lake. And I loved interviewing. Bob Clark. Have you ever asked him a question? He gave you an honest answer. He like snapped at me because it took me too long to ask them about Langkow's deal. I think I asked him well, Randburg Asthma Grant and I asked him what cylinder because they were the three other guys that dealers like you're going to ask you a land cal right and I was like, yes. And it was just really funny. That's the moment I remember about Demon Landco a thousand games and came back from a really serious. What was it neck injury to get there like that was a guy who got it through play the law hard hockey and gutted through a lot of pain to get to the end of his career. Pretty impressive. Robert. Reichel Robert Reich, okay. So the story of a Robert Reichel always remember was told to me by Eric Do Hachik. And so Robert Reichel scored the big goal over Canada in shootout in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, in Nagano remember. Of course. Okay I'm sure that's a pleasant memory for a lot of Canadian fans. But when he played in Calgary and you I came over from the former Czechoslovakia to play in Calgary. There were people in the flames organization who hated the sticky used. They couldn't stand it. They said it was a bad stick and as talented is a guy he is, and he had a ninety point season. They felt that his stick limited him from being even better. Forty goal score is a forty goal scorer from, but they didn't like his stick. They didn't like it. They said he could have been even better if he had a better stick. So Ninety eight Olympics, Reichel scores, the goal Eric too hot chicks there to hodge space in Calgary rankles a Calgary flame beforehand wasn't then he was with the islanders then but they knew each other they had a good relationship. And Reichel apparently walked up to the Hachik, put his stick out and said, ask Calgary how they feel about this stick now oh nice. Nice Robert Reichel? I remember when I worked with bill waters doing the old leafs lunch show on six forty Toronto I remember asking him you know, why did you? Because he was a markup was part of the deal with Travis Green? For Danny Markov Yup from Phoenix I. Remember I really liked mark off a lot of people like Markov and raise one of those big three rookie defenseman. The made the maple leaves out of Camp With Cavalry and tremblay I remember asking like, why did you move mark off? And he said we did it to save him trust me He was always kind of vague about it, but it sounds like that was a solid that they did for that player. To make sure that he still had a career that always member Reichel that way. But that was that was really opened my eyes. You Know Markov was a really interesting guy. You Know Marco came to Canada, north? America really young, right? Yeah and I think he was married young and. I've learned to think about this a lot. So he's born in Nineteen, seventy six he comes over to north. American nineteen twenty seven in nineteen. Ninety seven, nine, hundred, twenty, seven that would be really neat trick I think this bringing in Russians at that money you. Know. So you know he comes over he's twenty years old. He's still really young and I remember he made the Maple leafs pretty quickly pick you spent half a year in Saint John's, and then he started the next year and Saint John's and by the end of the season he was in the H. L. With the Maple leafs as a player they loved him. He just had a lot of growing up to do you know he was he was a twenty one year old kid who didn't speak English he comes from Russia he goes to Newfoundland then he's in Toronto. Thousand nine series how he battled John Leclair in front of the Philadelphia Toronto Nets, just battled him all series. Long was a big part of the reason Toronto won that series it was their first playoff win in a few years and I think he was just young needed to grow up and you know the players talked about how he'd smoke in the intermissions and stuff like that and into the drier into the drier into the drier the maple leafs. The intermissions a decade later, and you know he played a really physical game and he got hurt a lot. He was he was very reckless with his body but you know I think later in his career like people just really respected how hard he played and the one thing I remember was when Washington won the COP. He sent out some tweets about how much it meant to him to see. Ovechkin a Russian lift the Stanley Cup and I communicate with him over direct message and he answered a few questions for me about how meaningful it was and I just I remember that conversation but we talk a lot about you know guys who have difficulty making the transition and things like that. Imagine you're twenty years old you don't speak English and suddenly you're plopped in North America like it's a real challenge although friendly people in Saint John's though if you're going to go anywhere not not knocking the people there just that you're in a foreign environment theft. Okay. Sort of deter Danny Markov back to it Geoff. Sanderson. First of all good luck to the Sanderson family because Jake. Yes. Jake is going in the NHL draft pretty high pick coming up next week. You Know Brian Burke for a guy who doesn't like cheating in the CBA he like teams. Now he doesn't believe in salary cap avoidance and things like that. Burke's the biggest cheater of all time and so him and and Doug Maclean. First of all, they cooked up that todd marchant Sergei Federov deal, right? Yeah Marsha wouldn't waive his no trade. So Doug, put him on waivers to get around the trade, which is why that was the beginning of the no move clause the NHL. Yes. That trait specifically. So he traded Federov to Doug. Maclean in Columbus and the whole point was it was supposed to be marshawn but marshawn didn't WANNA be traded. So they put him on waivers and then first burkey didn't claim right correct and then doug called him in yelled atom day later these guys. Are the biggest Liars Alive Oregon McLean like if we would've ask them that when they were. DMZ. No, you guys are making stuff up reporters can't be trusted, and now they're writing books telling these stories. Yeah. Well, Geoff Sanderson had one like that in two thousand and four he was traded from Columbus to Vancouver and I guess this Anderson Start asking well buying a house in Vancouver and I guess Burkey had made a deal that he was being sent back to Columbus next season. And Burke's like I don't think you should do that and Sanderson's like why and he couldn't come right out and tell them so burke had to light am. or at least sort of fake advise them not to buy the house. You know estate is really good. They're the area's really gonNa pop I think it's a good investment for you if you just hang onto your property. Unbelievable. Can't go W cook deal for him to go back to see bj. So the other thing about Sanderson is and this is more up your alley 'cause I don't remember the story behind it, but he had one of those strange superstitions where he used a different stick every period right? Different lengths. Yeah. Yes. You know why? Why was that? Because he felt that he wanted to have something that helped them force himself, bend his knees later into the later into the game that he was going to be more tired in the third period didn't WanNa give himself an excuse to straighten up his legs. So if he had a shorter steak, he'd have to bend over bend his legs more. Yeah I never would have gotten that Geoff Sanderson Baby. Does this I know this. So zoom call we've had a couple of different zoom calls with a lot of the prospects and one of my first questions, Jacob Did your dad ever tell you this and he said no but the minute after I'm GonNa, go and ask him about it. So I've got a follow up with Jake Sanderson to see how that conversation went with his dad but it is one. Of those great stories about Geoff Sanderson I mean he's and listen Jake told me like his dad is very specific about a lot of things and really meticulous. So that story is very much on brand for for Geoff Sanderson. So I'm curious how the conversation went between the father and son but as of last week on our zoom call. Jeff told Jake that story us. Pretty Hilarious Okay Ilya Kovalchuk. Chuck Awhile Ago did we not? Of course we did a lot of he's GonNa Recur. Theme though. Cove, which is going to play next year. Montreal so going back don't you? I mean he loved it there. He was successful there they loved him. I don't know it's kind of hand to glove. I would think so but I don't know but. Kind of look. into. That a little bit actually was that like a doug. Maclean Brian Burke Geoff. Sanderson deal. But if you ask mark version of a Crazy reporters making up stuff. Okay. Let's move onto her final one here because we got a lot to get you on the podcast. Jordan? Stall. First of all I wonder if you call Don Waddell this week and said, Hey, mark are traded eric trays or anything I have to worry about here. The other thing I think of when I think of Jordan Staal is just the power back when they were in the old arena before they went into pg paints I remember walking in there one day for a practice the day before a game and seeing. Mike Kedar who was the strength coach in Pittsburgh at the time there was a long hallway and he had stall strapped to. Harness that has sled on the back end of it and there was as much weight. On that thing is you know is in my entire body and probably more and stall was just dragging it dragging it and I was looking at this saying holy smokes and. They kit our Sadie was the strongest guy on that team by a mile like that's what Jordan Staal was known for his power I also the other story or remember remember about Jordan Staal was. You know his first NHL season when he was a rookie, he had a really good year. He scored twenty nine goals. His second season he ended up I think with twelve byte for the first half of the season. It was really low. He got off to a really slow start and he could still play juniors and Pittsburgh came into Toronto for a Saturday night game and I asked ratio who's the GM of the time if there was any chance that he was GonNa Loan Jordan stall to the Canadian world junior team and Shiro looked at me like I was nuts. and. He said Jordan stall is an NHL player. and. He's not going to the World Juniors and I always remembered that conversation. All right. There we go. Lilo to line Damon, land cow, Robert Reichel Geoff Sanderson, Ilya Kovalchuk, and Jordan stall. You wanted yellow laces fridge. You got its courtesy of Mike at skywalker zero, nine, two eight. Burger. I could give you one clue that gives it all away fast. But I don't think you want that lifeline. No I was totally psyched out before I even started this. Like I was looking at some of these guys played like in Phoenix Some of these guys had seasons where they played less than ten games. Jordan stall is the one who is. Completely different than that Okay Gimme the hint I'm not good at these really crazy once. I'll give you six hints prochet. Now five hundred Damian. Rhodes Martin Hamburger Meka Noren Chris Mason Cam Ward. Those again. Damian Rhodes Martin Dur Meka in Chris Mason. Cam Work. Jordan install. Broader Line. Norton and Sanderson. Mason Coal Chuck Ward Stall Who's the other one? Damian Rhodes. That one doesn't fit. Are these. Is this something to do with these guys I H L goals nope. Well. Hang on. which list. These guys gave up their first NHL goals to these guys. Let me ask you that question again because you asked about first NHL goals, which lists. The guys that the goalies gave up their first angel goals to. I'll ask you again. which lists. Players of the goalies. Oh. So close by. Surprise. You got there. You're so close. I'm right aroused I can tolerate their. Land the plane for each land, the plane. Brodeur Roads Northern Nason award. Like happy Gilmour talking the ball and. You want to go home. Like your home. Go to like your home. Are you too good for your home? Damian Rhodes Marty Obrador Meakin and Chris Mason. Cam. Ward. All done what They've all scored goals. So. Did they get assists on these goals. They must have been all on the ice when they scored. Going keep going. Were they the guys who on other teams who put the puck on their sticks or something like that? You're so close just say it. People were screaming right now listening to this, the gave away the puck the led to the goal this shot in on the Goalie Bengo Okay own-goal players and those goalies credited with. That's what I meant that they were the ones who put on the goalie's stick. That's what I meant. Why how what's the name of the guy? WHO said this? Okay. So a little bio action here about Mike Aska Walker Zero, nine, two, eight. Here's what he submits about himself. Longtime listener been watching listening to you both since the I desk days in hockey night in Canada radio. Plus you Mike. Saw the, last home opener in the Montreal Forum when I won tickets to the game from a baseball ticket. Fundraiser Nice, my dad and I are both die hard cubs fans or having a father son trip to that game was amazing. Even though they lost seven three affiliate I believe it was an amazing experience. My name is Mike Lukman from Corner Brook Newfoundland. There originally now calling fort, mcmurray homes is two thousand and eight Mike. Thanks so much for submitting another yellow lace addition of were association Skywalker did you go back and look at watch all these videos to get it I found with is the list. I did all search online for wanted to find out who did want to find out who the goal tender's were because he gave me the list of the players and then what they're responsible for it. So I went back into one to find who the goaltenders were and I kind of felt like you might need a clue so better have some standing by so I wouldn't have found all the goaltenders. So it's Oberlin Roads Lancaster door stalbur door boy. Shuffleboard is a game I didn't master. George Stall must've on that shot. Reichel, Noren. Geoff Sanderson Chris Mason. Eight might be it might be masons. Ilya Kovalchuk Cam more. believably into the devils goal. We can't give you the goal scorer. Steve whichever, Cain touched laugh on. Believable. I gotTA. Tell you without that hint. There was no chance I was getting that. No chance tough one. Good one yellow. Ya. You know like I said I'll say this a thousand times everybody who submits these I am hugely I. Think we are hugely appreciative. Yep. That was a lot of fun. Okay. We're all warmed up now. Coming in to start the game congratulations to the Tampa Bay lightning and congratulations the two thousand eight draft where draft pick number, one, three, and five. All won the Stanley Cup on the same day, Stamkos but goes in and Hsien without will pick up thirty one. About this circle shoot wide right twenty three seconds left rebound Ben, right corner right point. clayborn muscle couples capable shoot savory rebound is loose zagan shoots wide lap fifteen seconds left rebound ranch a lot. Right Hey. It's GonNa Right Point Clinton shoot. down. Wide. Open. down. Go off. The top. Off. The very as always understated DIV Michigan with the call, their congratulations, Tampa, Bay, lightning you are the. Winners of the Stanley Cup in the most interesting Stanley Cup perhaps ever handed out. The. You're there to documented every single night on television on radio on on this podcast. What did we just see what just happened in your estimation? Jeff the number one thing I think of when I think of lightning this year is last year's NHL awards first of all, typically understated call by Dave Mishkin yes, and I'm happy for anybody who gets to call the Stanley Cup. Yeah it's an honor fantastic for him but I think back to the NHL awards last year and you'll remember we had Steve Mayor the same week. We interviewed him at the draft. It was a special podcast. We did the entertainments guru and we talked about how Keenan Thompson we both agreed an excellent job, roasted the lightning and how it sent a really different tone. And how he had to kind of warn the lightning in advance that it was coming but they decided they were going to go through with it and Vasilevskiy who won the ads done Kucherov won the heart and John Cooper who was up there for the Jack Adams, they had to sit in the crowd and listen to this and they're just sit stone faced and just eat it. Yup and they came back and they won the next year the number one thing it makes me think of that if you have a team that is really talented. And you have those guys signed for term, which Tampa does you have to bet on it it's the same thing that Washington did Saint Louis was a bit of an outlier because they didn't have the long term success that those two teams did but. Doug Armstrong was considering blowing up that team when he decided to bet on it. and. When you have talent, you have to bet on it you have to keep them together. You have to encourage them to get better have to demand them to get better and Edgier you have to support them with the right people. That's the lesson to me of the last three, Stanley Cups, and Tampa to. Everybody called them soft look at the teams they just beat Columbus tough team. Yeah Boston I they're not the you know the nineteen seventies, Bruins I. Mean who is hard team to play against? That's team man not easy to play against and the islanders really tough team Dallas really tough team. They beat four really tough teams to win the Stanley Cup and maybe they didn't have to travel. But that was not while it travelled once but that was not an easy. Road and the other thing too is they didn't win it getting pushed around. They gave as good as they got they set the tone physically a lot of the time that coleman good row gourd line was incredible headman sets of physical tone. It's a reminder to me that if I ever ran a team, you have to bet on your talent, you have to challenge them to get better and you have to find the right pieces around them. That's what I think of. WanNa get your thoughts on the Dallas Stars Humor Second. But the theme of today's Podcast is GonNa be what's next for all thirty one teams in the NHL. We're GONNA fly through the entire entire thirty one of them before we get to Dallas what is next for Tampa because much like Chicago previously starting with the coupling in two thousand ten this is a snake that's going to have to shed some skin like they're going to have to get rid of some players to make way for new contracts. What's next? I believe that Julian breeze by started to do that sort of planning before the return to play began you know there's a bunch of guys there that have no trade in no move clauses colognes got the partial meal. Pilots got a full gourds got a full Johnson's got a full obviously stamkos headman Kucherov kicks in I. Think one of the things he started to do is see some of these guys and say, would anyone be willing to move and I've heard that the early answer a lot was no, you know a lot of these guys took below market deals at the time they did it because they liked it in. Tampa and because of the tax situation. It was preferable to stay in Tampa. It's the incident vantage that they use and I get it like players will say we agreed to a deal and we don't want to be moved especially if it's to a place I'm not going to enjoy as much and it's going to hurt me financially with the tax situation. So you have to massage it. You have to look around it. I do think teams are going to ask them. About Circuit Chef, they're loaded on the left side of their D.. They've got headman mcdonagh and him there I mean he's still does play twenty minutes a night a lot of power play time not as much five on five. I would suggest that teams might go and say, Hey, does does he wanNA bigger role? Does he wanNA play more and see if in any way that is something that he would consider or Tampa Bay considers? I. Know There's the whole offer she thing we had this conversation last week I I don't know how eager teams are going to be do offer sheets especially with bonuses but we'll see those are good players and the other thing too is, do you have to do tough things with a championship team a team that just won together we just saw Pittsburgh you know honk fist he knew that there was a chance he was going on waivers if he didn't take the trade to Florida He. Might go there because of waivers. So you have to do something like that and say look is we're going to have no choice. Now the other thing to Jeff people are convinced that breeze blind eyes, men are GonNa Cook up something where they trade someone to Detroit with a sweetener. One of the RFA's Detroit signs them and then they trade them back a few months later at a reduced rate with troy keeping some of the salary. Now, I have no idea that's going to happen but. The Cunanan's of the NHL are already worried about this kind of thing. Alright right. So we'll leave Tampa there. So that's again more like this throughout the podcast of for all the thirty one NHL teams. Let's go to Dallas You made the point earlier this summer that this would be the worst Stanley Cup to lose but you have to give it to Dallas for getting there. I think the a large portion of the NHL Universe even though they might not have been cheering for the Dallas Stars were certainly cheering for Rick Bowness, you have a thought or two on the stars. Bonus. First of all, do they work out a deal where he keeps the job It sounds like they want him and I think he's interested we talked about a jeff and he kind of confirmed it. was there any personal lifestyle reason why he wouldn't want to do it with their ever be any contract issue that you wouldn't want to do it I think it's definitely trending in the direction of he'll be back as coach and I'm I'm happy for him because he wanted one more shot and he got it and he did a great job with it. But while things definitely appear they're going to be back. It's not done until it's done. Jamie Ben. His post after they lost first of all. I. Remember when the return to play happen someone said to me, this is going to be the worst Stanley Cup final ever to lose. Likes new guys right now. And me Ben. War that. Sucks Go through a lot with that group and. Not the Franks dowse morning news. No it's probably tough right now. But what you remember about this group of guys. Use of the athletic. Jamie Just when you are you able to even kind of think about the run that you guys had or or is this just too much for you right now at this moment. It's exactly how you would think that a person that really cares would react after they lost. I also wondered too if it was Kinda look of a player who was thinking, we had such a great run here and who knows if we're going to be together again As, a good run Tough your two games away from. Stanley Cups so It'll be interesting in Dallas. You know you take a look at a coup tobin had the greatest run of his career. I. Think he's price themselves out of there but is there any chance that they would trade ben Bishop and keep Khuda Open? Bishops Contract is now basically three times three and a half it was front loaded. So my guess is no but I'm sure these are things that they're going to consider. They were disappointed in the performance of some of their highest paid players I know Sagan was injured. Ben Was a physical presence. Raghav went in and out you know they've got assigned Heiskanen next year they've got sign Alexia next year who's a really improve player they've got among their Ara fees this year are. Of hints and Fox. Fox has got our bright's. I it's a challenging financial puzzle and their owners in the hospitality business which has just been hammered. Right now by everything that's going on with Cova. But I'll tell you this with that defense they're going to be good for a long time. A long time. This Perry, comeback? I gotta think that they're going to try to bring him back. I mean the interesting thing about Perry scored five goals in the season had five in the playoffs and he was a presence every night. Yeah. JOEP Belsky had fourteen in the regular season here thirteen in the playoffs and was a presence every night. And shortened season two for Perry. You gotta think I would I mean if you think you've got a chance to win, you want that guy. Elliott before we address the other twenty, nine teams, let's touch on rated salaries. You discuss this in the thirty one thoughts blog this week. I didn't think this would be gentle one for you and I guess it's not Well I, got some push on it and It just shows you how complicated this issue is obviously because it's pay, which is a big deal to everybody. It's a passion issue like first of all, I think the League wants to start on January first God only knows if it's going to happen. I don't think there'll be a winner classic. It's a waste of a good event if he can't have full fans, don't waste it, move it back a year or two whenever we can do it. But I, you know January I kind of like the NHL Day and I like it. It's Oh twenty twenty s over that. You're socked. Let's drop the puck and let's have a great new year I get the symbolism for society. The players believe that they've taken all the cuts they're going to take. They agreed to a ten percent hold back and twenty percent escrow, which if you do the math properly is they collect seventy two percent of their salaries gross. They believe if they and this has been communicated to all the agents in the players. If they play just one game next year, they get everything all the rest of their gross. Salary. Now the league negotiated that on behalf of the teams but there are teams who believe there's no way that can be true if they play a pro rated, which everybody thinks is going to happen even if the League hasn't said it yet then the salaries prorated to the players association believes it's black and white simple. Memorandum of Understanding that's it. There are some teams and the League cl should say, has not said anything about this. There are some teams who believe differently and they interpreted differently because of the way section seventeen see of the player contract the standard player contract is written. They believe that they interpreted as well. That means what it, what happens if. One team plays eighty two games. One team can only play seventy one, one team can only play fifty five whatever I don't know the right answer here but I just wanted to stay that the players association. Believes one game they get everything that's owed to them, and I'm not saying they're wrong I just don't know how this is all GonNa work out. Safe to say, then this is other headed to more negotiation or arbitration. I mean this is an enormous issue from that point of view. Then if both sides will dig in their heels on it to me, that says if I'm the NHL him saying eighty two games or bust. If they're getting all their money. Well that's I think what the NHL would want, but we also know the league isn't crazy about summer hockey and there's also the issue of the Olympics next year which you know their rights holder in the states. NBC Airs The Olympics and we use CBC to Air Hockey night in Canada, which airs the Olympics. So I don't know what the answers are all there. I just know that this is a really complicated situation. I'm not smart enough right now to know the answers. With, that we'll go through the teams We'll go. Atlantic. Metropolitan Central Pacific. So will kick off the Atlantic Alphabetically and start with the Boston Bruins Tori crew of course, Front Center there. Yes I heard the last offered a crew was like six times six point six. I think Boston is slipping around Ackman Larson. I think they're in there and I think he's interested in going there. Boston to me is a team that's trying to figure out. Kind of where we going here. Are, we re loading or are we? Kind of starting over a bit. debrosse name has been out there a lot. I think they're trying on Oem L. and that could determine. A lot of what their future is. Because it sounds like they're not gonNA sign crew maybe they come back one more time and take another shot. But if they acquire Oh yell I can't see how they can keep Krueg. It sounds to me like that's kind of move there weighing right now and seeing. All right this could determine what direction we go. Buffalo Sabres. Everyone kind of threw cold water. On the ACL thing, they've paid him a seven point five million dollar bonus. There's no sense and trading him. It's a story to watch in a year though if this season doesn't go well for Buffalo, then believe me this is going to be everywhere. I liked the stall trade for them. I think it's the kind of move aigle would like to. Gives them center that can really help the I'm curious about some of the other decisions that they're going to make. They've got some flexibility, but also a lot of contracts got clear up they got some extra D I don't think they're done but I just think right now the number one thing that they had to sort out was getting Eichel some help to give them some reason to believe and I think the stall situation accomplished that you know we talked about menteur earlier about. His and everything like that. I don't think he's getting non-qualified or anything like that. But I think they are scared a little bit by Arb- number. So I think they're going to try to see if they can avoid that in terms of either making a deal with them or seeing what else is out there and I do think the sabres are looking at trying to see if they can add a goalie i. Think, they'd like to strengthen themselves in that position I gonNa Going GonNa get you there and actually I would think that if I'm Kevin Adams right now and it's a as we've talked about countless times it's a huge golden market they have to be trying to fish out here I think they are maybe the most interesting team right now is you bison seems all too willing to weaponize cap space the Detroit Red Wings The stall move I think is really interesting. I thought it was a smart move by them. They're look alike one of the guys I heard they were interested to was Andy Green. And that would make a lot of sense Andy Greens a really good veteran with attitude and I could see Detroit having some interest in him. I think they've got some interest in Marxism to like they've let Jimmy Howard no that he won't be back. I think they see you're the big draft guide. What are you thinking for Detroit at for? Are they moving down or taking coal perfetti? What are they doing I? Keep going back on either coal perfetti at for for some of those associations talked to Sam causing Juno Boat. Countless Times or even Jamie Drysdale as well. if you looking at building this thing out from the back end than I've heard Jimmy Drysdale's name mentioned there. But the one thing about Steverman and this listen to started when he was with Tam, not telling anybody as not going to tell anybody and don't be surprised. If once again last year was more at cider his first drafted Tampa Bay lightning was was Brett Connolly would only played a few games with PG at that point Steve is women's is own man. Steve Eisman just shuts out noise and makes his own decision whether it adheres to other people's logic or not. So do you think they're in on the goalie at all? Man. I've heard so many crazy things about Oscar off and how high he he may end up going I. Mean He's the most highest rated goalie prospects since Carey? Price. I don't know that they're in salmon primarily give you a better indication there but I've stopped saying Askarov can't go hi because I've just heard too many teams say yeah, we've we've been talking about the goaltender. Because I wrote a bunch of teams I thought around the golden add a couple of guys were jobs, and so they think Detroit's on it too because they don't have a lot of goaltender depth though, and that's why I think they might be in on Marxism and we'll see does the Tampa Detroit connection actually happen. That would be a heck of a story Florida Panthers, those does not sleep and he's getting things done. There have been a number of reports that Minnesota and San Jose or talking about a Dube Nick Denardo deal and it may happen I've heard Florida's in on Denardo Paul Fenton who's now the GM acquired him in Minnesota I think Florida's there too. I've had some guys telling me to they wouldn't be surprised if bill zito tries to bring Ryan Murray and from Columbus they just traded Matheson, right? Yeah. I've heard they're. Also interested Mark Bora wietskede like they're a team that is on that too. We've mentioned that before I, think they're just trying to change their identity. I think anyone not named Barkov they'll listen on and Zito told me for thirty thoughts the blog a couple of weeks ago he'll listen on anything he may just not do a time I do think Florida's got a lot of balls in the air ally I, heard they recently talked Dad Nov, about a return I don't know if it's GonNa happen I expected Hoffman will test the market. Quenneville to Seattle interesting spitballing in the blog. Luck it's just you know sometimes I kind of overthink things by you know I just wonder you know he's got the tight association with Ron Francis Right Francis told US and other people. He wants an experienced coach like I'm just thinking. If you know if there's any chance new year, they don't think this is working and Quenneville. Got A big ticket. It's discussed. It's just something that popped into my head just because you know Joel Quenneville went under one regime and I'm not saying that there's a problem or they don't like each other but you just never know how things work right? And you know maybe in a year, I don't know it's just my mind working overtime Montreal Canadian's. So I'M GONNA, give credit to a radio guy in Montreal. Tony Marinara who's Pretty Funny Guy he did a really good interview with Mark Berge even this the other day were burs of in you know basically saying I'm willing to trade first rounders and prospects right now I just need a partner Mark, Berge. To me is a guy who says I gotta make the playoffs next year. That's the way it looks to me. He was telling everybody he went he wanNA left handy. He wanted to get that done and he got it on right away. He went out and he got Edmonson and he signed him. I know he said that he's not in on Line A. To me that says like, why wouldn't he being online that says that he probably doesn't think he can make the deal for line I look at Montreal and I don't see the match. I don't see the match that you know if you're Winnipeg, you're asking for Nick Suzuki and if you're Montreal, you're not doing that right and do they have a right hand shot defensemen that Winnipeg would say okay, that's our guy. I think he's going to try to add something on the wings I. Wonder if he would try a short term thing with Taylor Hall or something like that you know like to me like all the wings who can score that are kind of available. Those are the kinds of guys I I could see brave and on, but he's to me he's acting like a guy that knows he has to make the playoffs next year he had one target, he filled it, and now I think he's GonNa look for scoring on the wing. Ottawa senators there'll be big players come Tuesday. It'll be interesting. You know what do they do at that second pick? The first one's pretty clear. They're going for stood solar by field whichever one doesn't go right in front of them but the second one will see where it goes the other thing I kind of here there is that they're starting to try to do their business they're looking at. Okay I. Don't think they've gotten around to Brady could chalk yet but they've made it very clear. He's a guy they WANNA sign. And they did extend Chabad early. So I'm sure they're going to get to CA- chuck at some point I think they're trying to sign connor. Brown. I would guess they're trying to sign Chris Tierney I. Think they want to avoid arbitration with all these guys right So the first thing is I think they want to see if they can kinda get these guys done same with Duke Lehrer I would bet they wanna get all these guys signed so that they don't have to worry about arbitration I'm curious to see what they're gonNA do in goal if they're going to bring someone in. In. A one of the things they did that was really interesting was they got a bunch of prospects that went and going to play overseas the goaltender God is I think Brannstrom is and one of the things that Ottawa did was you can take out like a temporary disability insurance plan. And normally the player is the beneficiary of it. Ottawa asked that the team be the beneficiary. So let's say if a player gets hurt and can't play this season whenever it starts the team is the one that collects the insurance, and that's kind of unprecedented like I asked a bunch of agents if this was ever happened before and were like, no, like that's really weird and Ottawa was unapologetic about it. They just said look like we are protecting our asset and it was. It, didn't go over very well but Ottawa's position was kind of like. To protect ourselves, and this is what we're going to do, and they said it was smart business sense for them and so I think that's exactly what these players are going to do. So I think it shows that the sanders are knocking be afraid to negotiate and grind and I think that's kind of what's GonNa Happen in some of these contract talks I I would guess they're going to do whatever they can to make sure that they can try to sign brady could shock for as long as possible. But they're one of the teams that's told people you know the world's Kinda changed a bit. So we've got a reflect that in our conversations we right did Chabad that had calling white. It seems as if the MO is identify at lock in long-term for Ottawa the other Ontario team always a headline around Toronto what about the Maple leafs? Are they looking at? Two or three of the defensemen that can play right side. All the talk is about portrayal right or number one I still think portray Angeles choices to go back to Saint Louis. I. Don't know if it's going to happen and they'll try again but I don't know. My guess is this is my personal opinion is next Choices Vegas. That's personal opinion and I could be wrong. It's just my opinion. I think. TORONTO. I just don't know if it's going to be possible. So. Let's just say it's not possible. Then I think what they're GONNA do is they're gonNA go up and down this list of right hand shot defensemen Dylan to Mellow Trevor Van. Dyke? TJ. Brody's a guy they've liked in the past I know he's a left shot, but he prefers to play the right side just you in the cadre deal wasn't he? Yes. Yes. He was I mean just take a look at. The guys who play right side radcow Gouda. We've talked a bogus you and I before right Obviously. Dustin Buffalo and isn't gonNA play I. Don't think the lease will be in. Tyson Berry. You Know Sami Vatanen. Is that a guy that? Toronto looks that we should mention Christine of because of Tan of hits the market I absolutely think Toronto is going to look at that. I think that's what the maple leafs are. GonNa do I think they're going to look at two or three fixes on the right side probably to and see if they can say you know if it's not portraying Gelo two? Of, those guys to play and I think they're also going to look for some edge up front and I think also they're going to see where everybody lands and then see. Okay. Are there trade opportunities for us now I could see them going after two of those right side defensemen instead of one big one assuming that they don't go all in on. Portrayal. You see them with the their first round, their newly acquired first round, pick and play. Come. Tuesday. I think they will. But I think it's got to be a deal that makes us say oh. Okay. I get that. Right. That's the Atlantic. Consumer already covered off the Tampa Bay lightning had now the Metropolitan Division and start with the Carolina Hurricanes Hey, what's happening with specialty cough and contract? So the hurricanes offered special coffee time seven and a half, and you know it's not a bad deal by any stretch of the imagination like to me. That's not you know the player is going to bet on himself and things he could do better to me. That's not like Carolina in salted him with an offer. That's their them coming in hot and and saying we can do this right now and I think the player chose to ban themselves. So I'm hearing it's going to be a short-term bridge deal and they'll go from there but I'll tell you this like I've heard that. They love the player. I think the player really likes it there. The player just believes he should bet on himself and I got no problem with that What else with Carolina. You know I think they're in online any I don't know if it's deal that went up paying really wants to do I think it's kind of like A. Net cash and? Maybe a defenseman bite. Higher level that. That Winnipeg wants their creative. The hurricanes you know one of the questions is, are they going to get Dougie Hamilton sign? No, he's coming up on his unrestricted free agency. He was on a lot of norris ballots and that's team were a lot of guys have taken team friendly deals. And we'll see I mean it's Dougie Hamilton's choice to make right. But to me, I can't see Winnipeg going for Dougie Hamilton the deal signed for one more year. pegues Mo but I think they're going to upgrade in goal if they can. They definitely had interest in Anderson. If the leaves decide to do that, as you said, nobody thinks a scar off getting beyond them in the draft if he drops to them no chance you know, I, I think they're going to be a team to watch I think they will look out there to try to add stuff columbus blue jackets speaking of Patrick Line. We talked about him last week and drew the line between Winnipeg in Columbus. What's the latest with Your Mayo? Kick Leinen I think they talked to Calgary about something probably a goalie. And I heard that's not going anywhere. Airports Line had a story the other day where you're trying to get his Ara done Dubois and Josh Anderson. So he knows what kind of Cap Room he's got. Anderson. Interesting I've heard lots of varying terms there. I. Think the player wanted real long-term and I'm not sure the team wanted to do that. They're happy to sign him but I don't think they wanted to sign him for like Max Max Max terms. So I think they're discussing some different ideas. Same thing with Dubai I like I. Think the tough thing for teams and players now is how many players are going to say I wanNA short term deal. So I can wait until we see if hockey comes out of this and the cap goes up a bit right. So I think that's going to be a challenge for teams but I definitely think he's online a I could see the jets asking for our inskeep type in Columbus saying we're not doing that I think Ryan Murray's out there like I said I think Florida has some interest in him. I think they're a really interesting team to watch I. Just don't know yet where the matches are. That's all. What about the New Jersey devils let's Let's get to them next and by the way just as an aside. Would there be a juicier place for Henrik Lundquist. To end up than the New Jersey devils what's happening with with new In Thomas Gerald, they're going to be a team to watch I. Don't think they're moving that seven pick, but they've got eighteen and twenty in. They're prepared to do what they've. Let people know they're prepared to do a lot of things with that. They're willing to go up. They're willing to go down there willing to trade it for players I. think that they've told teams. If it's for a player, it's for a player a younger player like. Six term team control that's what they want. You know I can see New Jersey taken a being interested in someone like Sergeyeva if he's available and like just on paper if you're Tampa and you've traded first rounders. In theory search for a first rounder deal at the minimum everybody else can fill in what they want is that enough is that not enough just in my brain that kind of a deal makes sense. Now, both sides have to want to do it. But New Jersey's look for de Tampa's needs cap room and you know it gets them a first round or I don't know that just might be in my head but it's the kind of thing I think about because I do think teams are going to ask Tampa search of playing behind headman in McDonalds is you WANNA play more But I think New Jersey is going to be very active I think they've got a lot of balls in the Air New York islanders big success this season certainly for the islanders were where next does that answer begin with? Matthew Barzel. Oh Wait Lula Morello calling the tell me everything's Okay Matthew Bars. Then what's the up to with him first of all I? Think they think they're really good close and he's not going to tell me but I do think the islanders the way that Lula Morello thinks. They're going to be involved in stuff this summer. The biggest question is their cap. You know Barzel again same thing with Barzel. I've heard the issue is all going to be term What is the term going to be on bars? Barzel is he going to be long or short, and again I think the only reason it's short is because a lot of these teams and these players are saying, let's see where we let's maybe punt the ball a couple of years. They've got to sort out PALIKHE. They've gotTA. SORTA pool lock. These are all valuable players whose contracts they they have to deal with. I'm really curious about all this. How are they going to navigate their caps situation but I've Seen Lulu? Morello around enough to know that when he thinks his team is good he goes for it and I think they like their team. So like if you told me that they were gonNA. Try to see if they could find ways to do a Tory crew Gra a Taylor. Hall or Crew for their power play or anything like that or a Patrick Line like that's his mo I don't know how easy it is or isn't to do like I said they got a lot of cap issues I just nobody is history that I always think he's in the middle of these things when he thinks this team is good he's told me that before when you think your team is good, you take your swings. it in the right now has twenty three, million dollars worth of cap space although there are some pretty big contracts that are on the horizon for them not just right away. The New York Rangers and let's pause quickly in say a couple of things about Henrik Lundquist who the team just bought out a couple of days ago he leaves The New York Rangers holding all the records holding the hearts of New York Rangers fans dear your thoughts on Henrik Lundquist and I guess fridge, this was probably the only way it was gonNA end. Well, I don't think he was willing to retire. You. Know at least not yet they couldn't trade 'em not at that cap hit not at that number. and. It just got to the point where there were no other options and you know the day will come where you know they put up his number and he goes to the hockey hall of fame and he will be honored and I thought the thing that was really interesting was tried to ask some people in around the Rangers you know what do you think Henrik dies and their answer was it's up to him to say and I thought that was a really nice classy way of dealing with it. Just let him do the talking. And now, what I think is going to happen is I think he's GonNa look around and he's going to see what the interest is. And kind of go from there I've heard that. If Vegas Trades flurry or doesn't keep lanner I wonder if they might have some interest in him. I heard that he'd had some interest in Arizona. I don't know if that would be the same because that team is going in a different direction now but I had heard from just a quality of life point of view He had some interest in Arizona but again, things are different there now. You you you mentioned new. Jersey I don't know it's like Josh Josh? Georgia's we're GonNa go to the leaves right I just think he's GonNa, look at what his options are and kind of decide from there. So The day they bought him out a thought about the story of Ed Johnson the last goal tender that there have been some goaltenders at Rangers fans certainly hold dear Mike Richter comes to mind. But jockan held a special spot and Rangers fans hearts and you know you talked about this on the podcast a few weeks ago you know going back and looking at that Rangers team like from the late sixties to the early seventies and they had the Stanley Cup final against the Boston bruins that team should have wanna cop like that team was that good. You pointed that out a couple of weeks ago and Eddie, Johnson, started to get injured and the team started to fall apart in nineteen seventy five. I mean Eddie's like the most popular player on the team they have to move on and they put him on waivers and the Detroit Wings claim him. I think it's like the next night or a couple of nights after Detroit is at Madison. Square garden playing the Rangers and the whole crowd chanting Eddie Eddie. You know they're doing the New York Rangers on their home ice every time anyone took a shot on Giacomo and he was getting booed players were scared to shoot on the Red Wings for fear of getting booed. That's how beloved Eshaq Amon was and the interesting way that that relates to this story right now. They waved at Jock Amon. To make room for this young hot shot goalie, they were going to rebuild around and it worked to some extent because he took the rangers, the Stanley Cup. Final in Nineteen, seventy nine, and that's now the president of the New York Rangers John Davidson. Tie that one altogether. All right. The rest of the New York Rangers. What happens? Well they've got a big cap situation for one year right now. You take a look at their buyout situation. and. For, this one year, the NHL salary cap is eighty one, million dollars for the New York Rangers it's under seventy. Because they've got lundquist buyout they've got shattenkirk's buyout. They've got spooners by out and they've got Gerardi's by Brad Richards doesn't count his was compliance. So they've got about thirteen million in buyout money there and it just shows you you know they didn't think they were going to be good yet and they get Panara N- other guys improve and ca boom things change. So the biggest questions are gonna be what are they thinking with? Ryan Strong One year away from unrestricted free agency are bright's. Anthony Di Angelo Albright's big number because he had a really good year I think those are the two kind of questions. You heard the Eichel Ranger. Things I. Think they checked in I think were one of the teams checked in. I wouldn't be surprised at all is when knows name was out there they checked in on that. You teams are always looking to get better at center. They're no different than anyone else. Philadelphia flyers we continue through the Metro. See the flyers are fascinating to me because chuck. Fletcher has kind said that he's going to be patient. He thinks this team needs to grow. They learn some valuable lessons and he wants to see where they take it and I think it's probably the right answer. It's because of who they've got and they're young talent the you're going to hear the mentioned in a lot of trae rumors and I'm not convinced they're going to do anything but I think because they have like they have young. They have young Ford's people are going to approach them. Like for example, they could do a line a deal. They could do Johnny Goudie deal easy. Easy. Kevin Hayes is there and him and good roll like that family. Tight. To Me Philly could make any trade the any trade they wanted to make because they have what other teams want. The biggest question is will the And Fletcher seems to indicate that he's willing to be patient but I do think other teams that have things. They WANNA move are calling Philly to see if they're interested. Philip. Myers is a restricted free agents does not I believe have Rates but there's someone that we've talked about him. Countless Times you on the podcast and you really saw in the playoffs there is someone that you can say, yes, you can see him playing on the right side with Ivan Provorov as a first pairing defenceman he's restricted the summer. Yeah. He does not have our rights Myers. You look at all those guys teams would want San Heim teams would want Myers like they got an costas bear. I think they're at a point now where that probably could happen but you know they've got guys people wine and Philly, knows that in their light if other people want it, why don't we just keep it? All right from the Philadelphia. Flyers, we head to the Pittsburgh Penguins where we know that Jim Rutherford does not sleep will thank God for Jim Rutherford. Righty makes all of our lives interesting. Yeah. You know the top thing I've heard with the goalies is that an and they they're trying to move one of them is that there's teams out there saying. There's so many free agent goalies. Why would I give up something for a goalie? So think what could happen is you know Toronto had kind of indicated to Anderson that. You're being asked about you were not looking to pursue this, but we're being asked about you and if the right trade comes along, you know we consider it i. think one of the things that Toronto kind of looks at is we're not dealing them unless we get something better but we're going to check and see what kind of happens after free agency has done. So I think Pittsburgh could be in that position. Jim. Rutherford, talk to Josh Yo from the athletic any kind of hinted. Well, maybe they might try to move Johnson or play on his offside. So I mean the one thing you know about the penguins is he's liable to do anything. So we'll see what he tries like he's he's unafraid. He's got the big brass ones and. I'm just fascinated to see it but the one tough thing I've heard is that. The issue with the goal is that Teams were trying to trade They may have to wait until the free agency set up kind of finishes. Talk, Peter Bill at a couple of weeks ago here on the podcast let's get to the Washington capitals. They WANNA keep Dylan. They'd like to keep Dylan I've heard that if it gets done, it's probably going to be somewhere in the three and a half to four million range. If they can get it done, they're trying to move money to me. That's probably someone like. I don't know what the market is forum, but I think they'd like to keep them if they can. I mean the other thing now is you know who's GonNa be the Goalie Combo with Samsonov next year it looks like he's going to go to free agency in they're gonNa see and I think the other question they've got is is what's Ovechkin number GonNa be how what's his number going to be an? Is He at a point in his career and I don't I don't know he's thirty five years old like at what point do you start to see Alex veteran just going on evergreen deals like Chara or mats Sundin before a just one year one year one year one, I I don't see it. You know I think him and Backstrom do WANNA tie each other end till we to each other I know that in business sometimes you've got to be ruthless by. It as long as Lovie doesn't go in there and ask for eight years at eleven thirty, billion dollars. You know he deserves every penny. He gets he saved that team. Yeah How much of the value of that team is tied up in everything's done they're total like as far as I'm you know even if he asked for eleven billion dollars like to me that guy deserves every penny he's GonNa get. And maybe he might not live up to it because you might you know might get older but you know the fact is like first of all who's betting against him and how much money are the capitals gonna make in the chase for Gretzky think of all the merger GonNa sell absolutely and the the attention gonNA create like as far as I'm concerned whatever he gets. He earned it. All right that's east flip over the western conference. Now, we'll kick it off with the central and the Chicago Blackhawks are they going to tear it down to rebuild or are they going to ask a couple of and say we still have nineteen eighty eight here and what's happening with Chicago? One of the things I think we were all kind of wondering about is they made some front office changes John McDonnell above Stan Bowman, and we were kind of wondering what that would mean in right now as we do this, it doesn't look like anything. So I assume it's business as usual. You know Kubelik Dylan's Strom. Golden decision is Crawford, I wonder about Colorado and Crawford. I know JOE SACK said they're not going to change their goaltending I. Don't like to call Joe Sacco. Liar. It seems kind of sacrilege and Anti Canadian but I've heard some rumblings about Colorado potentially being interested him. Initially the Crawford Chicago talks didn't go as well as anyone hoped they got some decisions to make here I. Think Chicago is going to be a fascinating team because you know Saad d keep them for one more year before as a Ufa or do you sort of move them. And see what you can get for him if Crawford's back or or are they going with sue ban call and Delia or they look elsewhere lake. They've got some really fascinating tough decisions to make and. I don't have a huge read on where they're going yet but I heard there was some interest in Crawford and I think that's kind of the first decision they have to make, and then a lot of other decisions will probably come from their. Thought. I'm Brent Seabrook and his future there, and if he comes back at six point eight, million, well, the one thing I heard Seabrook wise is he was looking at it like he finally gets a chance to heal and if you know anything about Brent Seabrook. He will refuse to give up you just won't it's and that's why I have a ton of respect for the guy and. It's a tough contract to move in this thing, any age and probably the best solution for does he comes back healthy and plays better. You mentioned your soccer second ago avalanche the next team here on the list and I can remember when it was. But on one of the podcast that we did this summer, you said watch Colorado yeah they're pushing it all in. I mean, look at their window, is there currently constructed? Gabriel Landis COG is up at a year McKinnon's up in three years and also I just look at the way they handled. Pinera and last summer they offer them four years at massive money. So they're creative. They think about things I know they said they're coming back with the same goal as I don't know how they can That's why. I. Think there's some interest in what potentially could be out there They've gotta get Ryan Grave Sign. I assume they will. They've gotTA GET Berkovsky sign. These are bright guys. The door off the door of I think is probably GonNa get moved hang on how many years have we been saying that now? I know. It's like people saying the Toronto, Housing Bubble's GONNA burst. They've been saying it for ten years in one of these days they're going to be right things. Right I. told you. I wonder if joe gets moved, that was the situation that was worth watching. Last winter they were thinking about it, but I still believe that I think these are they're all in years this year and next and I think they're going to operate accordingly. We talked about the Dallas, stars and the openness go to the Minnesota wild bill guarantee been anything but silent and no one thinks for a second that Minnesota wild are done making moves. Well, you know obviously I I'm a big believer in Michael Russo I. Think he's really plugged into White Minnesota dies and he's talked about this Dubrovnik and do not. Oh, the oldest San Jose. So it sounds like there's some legs to it. I think like I said, I, think Florida's looking around it. Then auto to they're trying assign Susie, and they had made some progress I know when it began both sides were optimistic they would get done but I think there's interest in him and that obviously can complicate things but I think they're going to try. You know they got a Lotta di they got a lot of the and he wants to change the mix and I think he's got a lot of balls in the air. I i. really do nothing that these guys would do right now would surprise me. I heard Florida had some interesting Luke Kuhn to but again, I'm not sure that Minnesota's GonNa do that I think he kind of wants to keep his eric's XS greenaway's cannons and kind of let them grow a bit to see you know what he's got in to me. That's probably the prudent move. Nashville predators a disappointing end of the season. I think Nashville could. Be Sneaky. And when I say, I, think they could be one of the busy teams out there. First of all David Toil has got no fear to make big moves and secondly I think he's got a lot of his guys and not so much. The I think those guys are his guys but I think the fords he's got a lot of them kind out there. And that doesn't mean he's GonNa trade any of them or be able to trading in them but I think he just wants to know what the value of his forwards are. There's been a lot of talk about the tourist buyout. They've considered it. I don't think they want to do it but I think other than that. He's Kinda thrown a lot of his forwards out there and. What's my market on these guys? And he's got only one no move clause well. Rene has got a modified no trade, but he's got only one no move clause on his team in that the Norris Trophy Guy who we all know isn't going anywhere anyone. Yeah. I I wonder how many contingencies about salary retention if they want to move any of their big forwards 'cause there's some there's some big tickets in his you know right now it's tough to move any big tickets but one thing we've learned about him as he's not afraid. So I I think he's got a lot of his forwards out there just to say hey. What's the market on these guys? Saint Louis Blues we talk so much about the future of Alex Putra Angelo and I guess in in some ways. Maybe, the future of Alex. Portray Angela with the Saint Louis Blues ties right into what does or does not happen with someone like Vince done who's a restricted free agent what's happening with Saint Louis? Well. I think the the portray Angelo thing. Obviously Lords over everything. You know why is he gonNa do I think the blues believed that portray Angelo wants to stay. I think portraying slow wants to stay but obviously, he's got his backup and he's not happy about all of this. There's a lot of tough negotiators here like people that you would want to send in on your behalf like saying. I've got a tough the old negotiate here. I need to send someone in there while the guys were rubbing portraying slow in the guy who's negotiated for Saint Louis, you would send those guys in there on your behalf and. I. I don't think they're going to bend on the bonuses at least not. To. What He might necessarily want so. Obviously. When it comes to free agency this is the number one storyline in the NHL. Elsewhere. You know I think they wanNA, find a spot for Cairo. Obviously Cinco isn't gonNA play probably the start of next year I. THINK THEY WANNA. Find a spot for Cairo I agree with you on done. I. Think that's going to be an interesting one to watch and see kind of where that goes pending. You know what happens around the rest of their roster I. Think they believe that their team is still good and next year could be the last kick at the can for Some of their guys steen Bosak you know they've got a big you FAA year gene. Schwartz. Who they think is a big part of their team to translate decision obviously overseas at all. And then kind of go from there once they figure out where that gets done or doesn't get done. From the Saint. Louis. Blues. Headed out of the Winnipeg jets and we've talked plenty about Patrick Line and where he may land is a chance that he just as in Winnipeg. Though we every couple of days we're talk about Lyonnaise going here and he's going there at the end of it. Can you just see him remaining? Winnipeg jet. I can but I don't think it's what anybody Kinda wants like. One of the things that I asked was did line A. Asked for a trade. And I didn't get any yes or no answers. But what I got was it's ambiguous. It's Kinda like he's not one hundred percent happy and they're not one hundred percent happy and they know they've got one more year to there's a big negotiations at six seven five now. And we better sort this before that negotiation is staring at us in the face. So I think there's a better than decent chance at happens because I think everybody realizes here that maybe it's this is the right answer and you don't want to faster or you know you you to run out of any kind of leverage or all the sudden now, we really have to deal him. I think there's a guy said a better than decent chance. It happens you know Brian Little. He's probably not gonNA play again unfortunately in in you wish for his health and he does what's best for his health they need a Sanur. We all know about their issues on the the right side of their D. although. That's a real credit to their scouting staff how well peon played for them. You know they got a lot of holes on they've only got one defenseman Morrissey signed after next year. So they got a lot of prospects but no, they don't really have anyone sign long-term. So I think it's a a situation there where. They're looking at it and they're saying this could solve some problems for us but you know I think they're swinging for the fences they're aiming high they don't WanNa, give them away and I think they kind of look at it. That Way Dylan Danilo was a nice fit coming over at deadline is he stay? He's an unrestricted well. I just think there's going to be a lot of interest in him right now because he's a good player is not going to cost you a time. And you know this is the mellows best chance after a lot of years trying to find a spot of really knowing he's confined to spot. So that's the challenge. All right. That's the central. When we return, we go over the Pacific as we're running down all thirty one teams and what's next thirty thoughts podcast. The. Past. took. Me To. Before the break you Heard Electric Fantasy by Logan Ledger off his self titled Album and Elia Fat let's get to the team that you say is open for business. Come draft day the Anaheim Ducks I've heard Anaheim's got a group of around. It's in the early tens. I think that's their ledge the draft drops a little bit. So I think they're ready to move down a couple of spots if the offer makes sense to them and they're really good at finding and draft players. So I generally put a lot of faith. In what they do if they think that's the case then I tend to believe. That's the case I think Anaheim looks at a lot of guys improving internally like Raquel had a rough year last year signed to a good contract. They're going to believe in him continuing to improve I think they look at their defense? I think they like their defense a lot. They like their goalie allied Gibson I. Don't expect them to do a ton. Of course, now, they'll surprise me and pull some big deal. But you know it's interesting Andy Strickland reported that they expect. David. Back is to play. Yes and there's another guy you wish all the best for his health. So I look at it like they're going to try to improve mostly from within and I haven't heard anything yet of them necessarily taking any big swings. Of course I could be totally wrong happens. They've done a wonderful job drafting in developing and players like maxim comtois a Isaac Lindstrom are like a real lot We've talked plenty about Sam Steele Max Jones. You've mentioned Troy Terry a few different times. Josh Mahara like this is an Anaheim ducks team that's loaded with kids. They've picked off from the draft and have helped develop in. San. Diego at the h they've done a real good job Elliott I. Guess the Big Story Around Arizona is Oliver Ackermann Larsen and it sounds more and more correct me if I'm wrong Blake a matter of where he lands. More. So than are the Arizona coyotes GonNa, move him how accurate is that? I think that one of the things that's going on is Ackman Larson would like some finality you to the situation I don't think there's any doubt that he would like to know if he's GonNa move that could happen pretty quick and I think the coyotes look at it to like if they're going to be able to do it, they would like to see if they. Can Add some picks for this particular draft. So I think this has added to the overall stress. If that's the right word of this situation you know as we reported on Thursday. ACKMAN. Larson had listed two teams that he was willing to go to one was Boston, and the other was Vancouver, and this can always change more teams can be added to it but at this point. In time That's all he's willing to do the problem of this for Arizona, is that neither one of those teams as a first round this year Boston's went in the cost of trade with Anaheim Vancouver's went in the J. T. Miller trade with Tampa Bay, and which is now belongs to. New. Jersey. So they don't really have a situation either one of these two teams. Were Arizona can add it's also complicated deal especially with Vancouver because of the cap situation you know Boston really clears up a year Vancouver they have some that will come off their books but they've got some big extensions coming in Paterson Hughes but I do think both of these teams have tried I think Boston tried and you've been on the Boston trained for a while Jeff. This can change in any second but I've gotten the sense they'd kind of backed off. I think Vancouver came in late. And because I don't think they really realize until later they were one of the teams he was considering and I think there's real interest there. I just don't know if they can do it. I gotta think that Eriksson would be part of the deal because his cash is below cap and that would appeal to Arizona. Bite Vancouver doesn't have a first or second round or this year. So what picks? Would they have to give up and what prospects but I do think Vancouver from a pure hockey point of view is interested in the deal. The question is if they can do it, the Boston thing just goes back to before he signed this most recent contract and if he was gonna go to market, it was widely believed that Boston had a whopper of an offer ready but they never got there. What about the oilers? In all of this we keep hearing the oilers name married to Olive Rachman Larson Fridge. There was a lot of talk that it was going to be a player, the fourteenth overall pick and Bouchard. I don't think Edmonton was going to do that. I really don't think it was to could it be one or the other when it comes to the prospect and the pig maybe but I don't think they were gonNA do prospect and fourteenth overall pick I. I engine was interested at this point in time he's not willing to waive but I don't think they were going to do all that I heard that's not what the orders were willing to consider too much. For living and the Calgary flames what are the decisions here? What's next? There's some GM's in this league that kind of make the league goal when it comes to trades and stuff and tree living is one of those guys. He's kind of one of those guys who's in the middle of everything and and I think he's got a lot going on I. mean we're wondering about Guerrero and tree living has made it clear. He's not making trade just to make a trade if he's GonNa do that deal then it's going to make sense to all of us when we see what it is I, think he's really looking at his defense Hamernicks a free agent Brody's of free. Agent? I checked a couple of times and I heard as we record this I heard there was still a chance that brody comes back although I wouldn't WanNa, put it on a percentage, but I think it's safe to say that Hamernicks going elsewhere I've heard some rumblings about hathen. I've heard he's in on just about every goalie their paws on. Hannifin there for a SEC, Shir? That's a name. It's been out there for a while. This isn't recent. It goes back to the Jersey deal when they were talking about Taylor Hall Right? Because I think that deal when they were talking about it was Taylor Hall and Batman for Bennett and Hannifin. Now I don't think benefits going anywhere now I think he's starting to cement himself as. A real big part of what Calgary dies and he signed for another year at a good number and he's a senator who can also play the wing but I do think he's got his hands in a lot of things goaltending defense the whole thing. I, don't know what to say about that. He's been linked to them before I think Calgary's in the middle of a lot of stuff Edmonton oilers. There's another team that's kind of in the middle of a lot of stuff start with a cleft bomb. That's kind big news. I haven't been told it's the shoulder I assume it's the shoulder. Think it is but nobody will exactly confirm it. When Oscar cleft bomb came back to the return to play this year some of the people around the organization including players said, he just didn't seem like himself. Like cleft bomb is like he's a pretty popular teammate I know the media loves dealing with them. The enthusiasm that he normally has for the game just wasn't there and they were all kind of wondering what's going on here and now I think we know the answer I don't think he was healthy I don't think he was comfortable and it really affected his game. He wasn't himself, and so I think he's considering some surgery that could knock him out for a chunk if not all of next season. So that's kind of what's going on here. He's GonNa make that decision and the oilers are going away what's going to happen around that? First of all my limited dealings with cleft bomb I've really enjoyed dealing with them I wish him the best. But all of a sudden, they could have a big hole and they're kind of figuring out what they're gonNA do with that. They started talking about an extension with Ryan nugent Hopkins. He wants to stay I think they know that this is a guy who's really loyal to the oilers I. Think they want to get that done. What's happening with yesterday? I have heard this rumor that coming back and signing for a month now and hasn't happened. So that leads me to believe that he's coming back at some point. They're just trying to work it all out, and also I think teams have talked about trading forum. My biggest question is, does he want to come back to Edmonson? and. I think he would prefer a fresh start but Edmonton doesn't like the value they're getting out there. You know my biggest question is, what's that not so much to the oilers WanNa back the other players want him back. That's one thing that's kind of never discussed here with the oilers or never discussed with a lot of teams. We've heard this in players go to coaches management I don't WanNa play with this guy, I. Don't want this guy it's never been talked about with Jesse Palmer V. so what are you saying that they don't want him back I don't know I just think as we also reach for answers why it hasn't worked out and he kind of says the right things publicly. Could this just be a case where? Some guys on the team just flat out said to play with this guy. and. Why would that be the case? Well he does have a certain reputation of being challenging to play with his difficult player to play with. I don't know I just wonder where that hasn't been more of a source of conversation and I may be way off on it but those whispers have been out there for a while. I mean, maybe we'll find out. You are the one thing I always say is don't give up on young people. Unless there's a real reason to give a I'm not in that room. I. Don't know but I always put myself in the shoes of what I was like nineteen, twenty five like I. Think it's such a mistake sometimes to give up on young people but they know better than I do. From Edmonton we the Los Angeles Kings second pick overall on Tuesday. So. Here's what I hear about La. And this is mostly other teams talking about them. The Los. Angeles. Kings can do anything they want to do. They have cap room. They have talented players, younger and older. They have centers, especially young ones member rob, Blake telling us can never have too many centers. That's the word I get on La. They can do anything they want to do they WANNA trade for Patrick Lane. Patrick Lane they wanna can't really just call him Patrick Lane I should fired for that. They wanted to trade for Patrick Line a they can do it. They want to trade Johnny Guterro they can do they want WanNa trade for anybody, they can do it. The question is do they think it's the right time for them? And at times over the past year, they have told teams it's not the right time for us But if they decide, it's the right time or there's something out there they want they can do whatever. San Jose Sharks. Disappointing last. season. Plenty of question marks a team that looks this good on paper should not be this bad on the Ice San Jose. Will first of all, we're all wondering what the lobont contract that's wrong with my pronunciation today pronouncing all these names wrong. I'm tired the we're all wanting to bank contract is going to be right? Yeah. One of the things that you know. Obviously, we've mentioned the Dube Nick Denardo. Things that happened they're definitely looking for a goalie. There's no question about that. They're looking for someone to back up Martin Jones and somebody who will give them minutes. F- like one of the things I heard they might do is, will they move some of the guys like down at the bottom of their roster? They maybe like a Marcus Sorenson or something like that to clear some room to do some other things. Like that's one of the things I'm wondering that they're going to do because I heard they're looking for wingers some scoring, and we're kinda going to go from there I think further to Kevin, the bank that's North American pronunciation of the name remember John Bartlett asked him but because he has a Slovakian background and if you WANNA be technical, it's levels. Johnny was told you sound like, James, bond. Sean Connery James. Bond Circa nineteen sixty five we are curious about that deal cup more squads here. Vancouver connects for each. You know like I said, I think Dave had conversations about all recommend Larson I don't know if they can make that fit. But I think they've tried at least a see what the talk would be. I. Don't think they WANNA trade besser I i. really don't I think they'd prefer to keep them in kind of see where that goes. Virtanen. I think they'd like to try to keep them but they realized that may not happen but they've told teams, they WANNA make a hockey deal. Mark, their number one priority but they know they're betting against They're they're going up against a pretty hot market for him. I think they'd like to keep Tan of, but again, they're thinking that they might not be able to beat with the market is I think stature is going to end up going. It all depends in online. Just what can they do at the bottom of their roster? Can they move anyone? Are they going to buy out anyone? Finish up with the Vegas Golden Knights. You've talked with Alex transload to them. What other business I e goaltending has Kelly mccrum have in front of them. Number one is what he's GonNa do in goal and number two is what happens. If portray Angelo is available what do they have to do I think Vegas is a lot going on and I think they are active in saying what our options. If we have to do something here, you'll also got assigned Chandler Stevenson who has arbitrates. And he played really well for them. One of the things I think teams are kind of looking at is, can they trade guys two teams like Detroit and Ottawa, and then have those teams flip guys elsewhere lasorda using them as a landing pad to eat some salary. Now you have to sweeten it for those teams. But like that's what I wonder. If team like Vegas is considering that they can move some of the salaries that they might need to move I. Think they've got a lot of balls in the air between the goaltending and the fit they want to add a right shotty. Only have white cloud who shoots rate and that kind of got them a bit in the playoffs. So I think whether it's portray Angelo or somebody else. That's very much on their raider. that's right and let's talk a lot about Nick Egg big defense prospect coming in. There's another left hand shot on the horizon for for Vegas looking for the right He's good points. I think probably call this edition of three hundred thoughts empty the notebook anything else you think we should be. Apprised of this week fridge. I. Think the other thing that someone said to me that I left out on my blog that I thought made a lot of sense is that you have to look at all trades with the expansion draft in mind absolutely everything now is is to Seattle every move under the umbrella of Seattle is coming. That's a great point. Also Elliott, we do need to give credit where there's excellence and that was this year's your end montage is always one of my favorite thing. It's always bittersweet, right? It's the end of the season, but the montages always great oil Ryan Smith produce it this year good job Smitty Jason McKinnon did the editing Carson Village handled the music licensing that was a to billy Irish tracks that were featured and if you WANNA check it out, the link is in our show description you'll love it. It's great. well-done gentlemen take a bow. Okay. So that's busy podcast with a lot of information. We hope you enjoyed. It also WanNa let you know Rogers Sports in media has committed to giving ten million dollars over the next five years in free advertising and creative services for equity seeking charities and by pock, lgbtq plus P wd and female owned local businesses visit all in for equity dossier to find out more. Taking us out today at Nashville based Bay area bread artists. Logan leasure recently released his debut self titled Album Produced By t-bone Burnett and featuring an all star band of players. 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Episode 411: The Open Market

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Episode 411: The Open Market

"The economy is made up of real people doing real stuff and it affects everything which you obviously know. Since you're a real person doing real stuff marketplace's here to help you get smart about everything beyond the what of the day's business and economic news we dig into the how and the why with the real people driving our economy from big tech and interest rates to small businesses and what's happening at the fed marketplace breaks it all down so you don't have to listen to the marketplace where ever you get your pockets pressing to the means since twenty fifty. It's the hockey pedia. Cast with your host dimitri philipovich. Welcome to hockey pedia. Cast my name's matrix Kovic in joining me is my good buddy ryan lambert ryan was gonna. What's happening a lot. Tap were according wednesday early evening. We just saw a million signings. I think cap friendly at this point has it approaching. Eight hundred million dollars in terms of contract dollars over. I have kept friendly opened. Seven seventy two nine twenty five here. We go by the time people listen. I have no. I think they're still uploading some of the some of the signings that have already been finalized back logging but also joining us is good buddy. Jack razor jack. What's going on a quite a lot. It's very long day. I am if. I never see another hockey data viz for the rest of my life. I think right now. I feel pretty happy. At least it was exciting. It wasn't like last year where we were just of sitting around awkwardly for a in our time without assigning happening so i guess i'm grateful for that certainly Even though we still reside in a flat cap environment teams had no such limitations in terms of the money. They're in spending in. We're gonna work our way through we. The three of us did a show last week which feels like months ago now. Talking about the expansion draft was seattle. Jobs do and it was fun and people enjoyed it so i figured we'd bring back the team together for this one and so the plan for today as we're going to work our way through genuinely insane deo signings can try to sort through the biggest themes best and worst moves whatever it is. We think those notable and because so much happened. It's pretty easy to stop. So i think it'll be a good exercise even for us and so let's get right into it. Brian let you start what. Give me your biggest story whether it's a theme or whether it's a team or player you can take it any way one. Yeah i think the thing that is truly truly amazing to be. It's funny because i i actually wrote about it for libra strikes over the weekend. I i don't know how. Nhl defenseman are valued anymore. Like i do. It just doesn't make any kind of sense to me I mean you know the people are saying would say that. This is an apples and oranges comparison. But like the fact that seth jones got a eight years nine and a half and Camel car got six years. Nine is wild dougie hamilton. Just got seven years nine And i look you know i. I don't think we need to explain to the listeners of this show Where we are as a group where. All three of us are at Seth jones wise or dougie hamilton and cameras. Honestly but like you said jones is a guy that's like the number is eight him but here's the one weird trick That he that he uses to get nhl people to think he's good at his job And i guess it's being tall probably playing lot in. Maybe that's too weird trips. But the thing i was just saying this to dmitry before we started recording To tell you how insane. Nhl defenseman valuation has gotten The boston bruins. The i think yesterday announced they resigned. Mike riley three years three million dollars and then today mike riley berry good middle pair. Defenseman really shined after being traded to the bruins of the deadline. Today they give derek forber a bad bottom paired offensive defense only offense of black hole Couldn't cut it on The winnipeg jets And they give him three years three million dollars the exact same contract. And i don't know how they i don't know how if you're done sweetie you're saying these two blair's worth exactly the same to me. Yeah well i just talked a lot. Sorry i was listening to. It was certainly i think that is the biggest theme. It certainly was a good database defenseman especially if you are over six foot tall especially if you're over six two and if you shoot right like oh my god you were. You're laughing today. I think he's a sampling of contracts. We saw Variety defenseman codes e four years dean mowing derek forward three years nine million tucker pullman four years ten million travis hamic two year six million david savard voyeurs fourteen million ryan suter four years. Fourteen point six million. That obviously doesn't include the seventy six million dollars extension set jones god contract for three years ten point. Five or so of the brendan mantra. Got the day before from panthers. The premium the flyers traded to acquire razzmatazz. The line and And so i guess in one sense. I'm surprised that that much money was given out to to defense of varying levels. And obviously i think all those guys should have been paid as much especially in the term they got i but i guess we should have seen it coming just because it feels like this has been a perfect storm right. We just had a postseason where any broadcasts you turned on regardless of who was playing. They're talking about. How montreal had four. Chris pronger's who are these big defense men who were carried postseason all the way down the final you had then. We entered the andrew draft or the expansion draft you had seattle taking guys like carson sushi in germany lows on over objectively better candidates from their own teams. You had the leafs protecting justin holdover. Jared mccann We saw the trade sunday on with this as jones and the rest of the salon and stuff so it seems like teams. Just talk themselves kind of back themselves at this coroner of thinking like all right we. We need to fill a quota of this certain type of player. Because that's been proven to be successful in the league. And that's why you have off seasons like this when so far where where it just seems like the valuations are sold off from what you typically expect. Based on what the players have actually provided in terms of their on-ice results. There was a lot of is that per year or over the entire contract This time around. Which i we hadn't seen for a while but i i totally agree to. I think it's definitely part of a larger thing that we've been seeing you know. We obviously saw it a lot. This loss You know like. I think actually predicted during our Second round preview. You know as soon as vegas beat. Colorado and sam's yard had a bad series. You know that basically confirmed to thirty one or thirty two. Gm's that the answer to your defense is problem is that they aren't big enough. In a basically gave them kind of carte blanche to go to any death defensemen that was available especially for right handed and give them a contract. That seems totally out of whack with whether actual ability is so. I think that was definitely the biggest thing for me was was not only you know we knew that jones was going to get a giant pile of money. You know we knew teams were gonna value essence the line in you know the the minute munchers are always going to get a piles of money. Because that's how they're getting evaluated is. It's the the trust that okay. If these guys are getting trusted in these big minutes then presumably they must deserve it there. We can you know project. Their physical gifts onto our line up and and dismiss any issues that they had with it was their system but it was the the deaths guys. That really kind of surprised me of these guys that you haven't really heard of before or you know you you see them in a third payroll and then. Suddenly they're getting paid is though the these guys that needed to be locked up so that was definitely stretch and it seems like the common defense of it. He typically from fans of the teams that designed he's players is well that's the market. What can you do right. And i always find that to be such a strange argument because at the obvious answer seems to be. What's the what's the rush to design at that market price. Then like if that's the case just just hang out go on vacation for a couple of days Wait for it to change. The market always changes for better. For worse. there will be better buying opportunities at some point. You don't need to build your team for tober. Thirteenth on opening night or whatever it is in july on july twenty twenty seven twenty eight th whatever it is today. I've lost track of the days but you basically like you just admitting all right well other people. My friends are making mistakes. So i'm just gonna make mistakes too because hey whatever everyone's doing it's kind of fit in it. It's so bizarre kind of such an ass backwards logic especially in a competitive setting like the nhl in a hard cap system where you really can't afford to make dumb mistakes on the depth players like this and teams just time and time again basically others doing it and they all just kind of have this pack mentality about it. Yeah i mean i. I'm looking at it right now. Definitely there not. There's nobody that where you look at. You go oh my god how to how this guy slipped through free agency. You know like the first day of free agency. But like i don't know. Can you get ryan murray for less than three years. Three million dollars is a much better men than derek forward. Just yeah. you're not right. Shot i guess but You know you. He's a good. He's a good player Sammy vaatainen is a player. I think that we all agree have has some lower end of the lineup value. You know again. Nobody's calling these guys can. Have you seen anything quite like the connects defensive depth shot on the right side where it seems like right. Now it's tyler myers travis. Avonex tucker pullman in luke shanna guests. I think madison bowie might also still be there about sheriff as a free agent. Yeah it's i. It's not making me timmy. Friends in conduct land right. Now i can tell you the truth. I i i mean honestly you know i guess a good gauge of how much it seems like the attitude towards cat space and contracts has changed in the course of seemingly two weeks. Is you know if you If you look down this list of contracts how many of them if they pass through waivers on january twelfth twenty twenty one would have been claimed. You know i think there's a double then that would be. I think there's quite a few of them that wouldn't be. You know there were there. Were good players all season long. Who were on contracts that just so happen. You know that it was two years. Instead of one year three years instead of two years it was three million instead of two million and there were passenger waivers seemingly on a weekly basis and then suddenly it seems like you know. I don't know if if the owners jams got all excited because they started. Espn logo in the corner of the screen for the first time but suddenly it seemed like the pursestrings were open and every team i guess just completely reverted to a you know i guess. In retrospect probably what they were dying to do last for which is get back to normal and and start giving out seven hundred seventy million dollars much of it as usual gonna get regretted. I think that is certainly true art. I'm going to give you guys my. Take away the seattle cracking. Yeah so i have to admit. I've spent a large chunk of the past week trying to come up with potential theories Talking to as many people as i can elite trying to sort of piece together what the vision and plan was here and sort of the sequence of events that led to all the decisions seattle's made in terms of personnel. They've acquired in various ways so far. What their vision was for this roster year one and i was hoping you know leading the expansion draft which the three of us talked about at length on podcasts. We are kinda came to a agreement that it made sense that they valued cap space in flexibility as much as they did. They didn't wanna take on anyone else's bad contracts really for the most part and we figured that either via some sort of trades down the road they would acquire assets for the future or maybe disgruntled players or players that other teams just couldn't afford anymore or they were going to go big game hunting agency with either dougie hamilton. Or gabriel landau scott or whoever else and they were going to really bolster their team. Which would have actually made sense. I think normally you'd say building through. Free agency is an ideal but just based on the personnel. They'd acquired in the expansion draft. They had this interesting complimentary group of low event defensive players and if you added a couples of linchpin offensive threats could really make them an interesting team especially in the pacific division and i guess technically like they certainly spent Here in day one. They got some interesting pieces depending on your mileage on them. But i can't. I can't reasonably say. It was an optimal use of their bill resources. And it doesn't make me feel doesn't do anything to make me feel more confident in what their plan is moving forward because it feels like something weird happened in the meantime and they sort of have to readjust because this couldn't have been their number one game plan heading into it. It just seems so bizarre case. The thing that i don't understand is they. You know i. I think sensibly kinda went cheap on goalies in the expansion draft. They they got a check and they got a treasure and one other. I'm forgetting to corey exam. So they send him up and down. Yes and li- joy to You know his track record even before he got pro. Hockey is is solid and and so it was like okay. they have waco of. They're getting their ducks in a row in the crease. And then they were like what if we gave a twenty nine year old six years and and almost six million dollars and then traded a one of the goalies redrafted back to the team that gave him up. What have we did that. And what if we let gavin beyreuther the only guy we took from the guy we took from columbus. What did we let him just sign with columbus. After all this like what was the point then would like just. I don't know say pass. We're good we're not gonna take these guys you know it's kind of belaboring the point a little bit but like when you go all man look at how much cam space they have. They could go hog wild they could. They could offer sheet Allies patterson they could they could offer sheet Any any number of guys and then they were like yeah. We're going to give jaden schwartz five and a half million dollars in leg. I don't have anything against any of these players that i'm about to say but going to give alexander number four and a half million dollars are gonna give jamie alexia. Four and a half. We're going to give adam larsson. Four were And then i said group are already. It's like oh okay so you're just gonna spend money like a normal gm that feels like they're like for you know quote unquote going for it Okay because you know the thing. The thing i and i wrote about again i wrote about this. Like a whatever Right before the expansion draft. But i think i said you know they. There's no pressure on them to be like actually good because their division stinks right. Les they could. We set it last week. They totally back into the third place in the pacific with the roster. They they had at the end of the expansion. We like you know that was totally a reasonable expectation and they said what if we barely improved but spent twenty million dollars to do it. It's a plan. yeah it none of it made any sense to me at all i was. I was blown away when that alex winberg contract came through. I mean you know you gotta remember like winberg is a guy who got bought out of a contract that was essentially just this contract like fleet. Last year he was on four point. Nine until twenty twenty three and now he's at four point three until two thousand twenty four and the only difference between then and now is that he shot twenty percent this season. Which as always you know we know is a perfectly good measure of a player's talent especially a guy like alex weinberg. The amazing thing is from two thousand seventeen to twenty twenty and then obviously got bought out by the end of that run. He's scored fifteen goals in one hundred ninety games combined last year. He scored seventeen goals in just fifty six games. He shot twenty point seven percent as you said he played four hundred plus minutes with jonathan gruber toe which i'm sure helped offense at totals quite a bit the closest comp by by don's model is twenty eleven twelve billion in his first year with the buffalo sabres. Talk under. what's what's what's remember it. As a great contract that lived up to all the hype and certainly provide value for for his team. That one's wild. I think the schwartz love his game while the player. No no. i'm not trying to slight is game. I don't think he's a five happily dollar me for five for five years. He's a twenty nine year old. Who's missed extended periods of time for the past six years and whose shot rates have been cratering progressively over the past three years and his by one of the close cons is louie erickson when he signed. Hiscox the alleged. I just struggling to to come to terms of the rationality because we just we praise them for understandably passing on bad contracts that other teams had signed and they just use that puts ability to go ahead and sign their own bad contracts. A weak leader. Is i mean you know will use the same waivers test. I mean if these three contracts were available to seattle in the expansion draft would we have sat down last week and said that they should've taken them. I think probably not group hours like a one liner octave out and yell would've had argument about money and goaltending at it could have been interesting. But i mean you know james schwartz. You know like you said like he fits this team like he is exactly the kind of like low event. Defensive minded layer that they need and they don't have any twix like i'd like considering this year amount of cast based they had if they're big move today was just we're gonna sign jane schwartz risk around others rosser. We're going to keep your identity going. That would've been one thing but again like this seemed kind of setup to be either a we're gonna go through the go for the big dogs and if we don't get the big dogs number basically gonna do arizona's doing like we're gonna you know maybe get some captains that actually improve our team like arizona did with gossip bear and stroman. We're going to pick up a eggs on the process and we're gonna lose respectively and maybe we ended up in the laundry. Maybe we compete for playoff spot. But we're not gonna have sacrificed any potential assets cap space for that and then they kind of carved out this middle ground which i feel like limits their options in both directions and probably cements them as potential ninety five point team next year. That right side is going to be competing with the more dysfunctional teams in the division. But i i really don't see how this team is with the additions made you know as i don't think they're going to be competing or his data cup exterior. Everyone seems to be agreement that the coaches are basically having the summer that seattle should have had ideally right. Like they like the coyotes. I think basically spent twenty two million dollars in terms of future salary and they bought the ninth overall. Pick obviously those complicated because oil's contract. Connor garland in there as well but five seconds. One third one seven. And it's not even like they took on these albatross contracts because pretty much all of that cap. Money is coming off the books after this one year. Except for i guess. One more year andrew ladd and one more year of gaza's bear who could conceivably become a positive asset at that point and instead they're basically left watching over the past week as players. They could have taken for free and flipped to other destinations. Gopher legitimate assets in akitas zadora of going third brennan dough and going to seconds and jake being going for a second draft instead they either just punt it by taking gavin beyreuther in john quenneville and and i think the washington just the wild example to me. I understand that. They probably didn't think that they were going to get philip group hours. So that's why they took advantage check. And then their plans got changed but optically for them to take that a check and then send them back to washington for a second while they could have just taken dylan and flipped him. Beg for two seconds is like just a classic example of not on either not understanding the market or not doing due diligence or just playing your hand i. It's one of those for sure that's disappointing. Yeah i mean the thing. That's wild is a they're now spending expansion team spending nine and a half million dollars uncle tending Nobody should do that. Just shouldn't a unless unless it's a situation where you have a carey price in your like will he's attending a half million dollar goal and we also have to have the student million dollar backup because katie price can't play a full season. Or you know. I kinda get that. Obviously i would Worn cautioned against that But the other thing is like they had what a How long have they had their full or almost their full front office together like a year. Plus right so for them to go yet no idea it will fill a group our and like completely changed course a week after the franchise started. What do you believe as as an organization and and you know to your to your point earlier about arizona. I just see it. It's official now. darcy countered colorado for connor ten minutes and eight first round. Pick and a third round. Pick you know. Obviously seattle's not in the may to trade a trade or now for nothing but like You know if they if they keep band. If it's advantage group our than you know. Like i i just they. They won't put this. They gave up their position of power so easily. You know like the the the power to be like. Oh we can take any player from any team. Almost you know Atwell and they were like. We're not actually gonna do that but we could've and boy wasn't that a scary week or two for you guys. Yeah i just intellectual ages. it's it's bugging me so much. I i wanna know so badly. What happened over the past week or leading up to the expansion draft and and how they played out this way but it. Can't i refuse to believe that this was like they're sitting right now and like yeah. We nail the past week. It went exactly according to plan nothing ever does. Of course there's thirty two teams now a changes your kind of subject to the whims of of other gm's but it's you're right like the gruyere thing kind of came out of nowhere right like they weren't even link to him heading into the day and then all of a sudden it's like ooh watch over seattle here in the know seattle's getting close group our and then they clearly giving him the sixth year helped quite a bit and we i think all three of us like robot like like goalie but it. Just it's kind of you have to lump it in with the bigger picture of sort of how they came came around to getting all these players and what they value why they went throughout the. Did ya the other thing to say again. I'm talking too much. i apologize But you know. I think back to. When ron francis was running the hurricanes what was the what was the problem. All those teams have a cam ward. They don't doesn't seem like they have cam ward situation for now. Two years from now they very could and be a no high end. Talent that can put the puck in the net. They still don't have high end. Talent that can put the puck in the net. And and so like. Let's put it this way you know jordan. Everley he wasn't even a first line player on the new york. Islanders a team that we think collectively as a as a analytics community or whatever. We don't think they're really You know that even offensive team. Let's say and even they were like kinda iffy on jordan everley up on the top line. Allow no no. He was playing with bars. Al boredom saying is like in their late scenario. Yeah yeah yeah area they. They wouldn't have been comfortable with like okay. Well mean one last thing. That kind of seems strange to me is that you see winberg go three years four point three and then about an hour later by costs on goes to montreal three years for five if you're looking at seattle roster and saying who is the guy that they should probably as in terms of what their needs. Are you probably say. Mike often like you know in terms of ican actually but the puck in the net and if actor on our plate which isn't something that they really have a yellow by. It's just kind of a kind of a weird thing you know and maybe you're from now. It's all going played itself out perfectly. They'll have set themselves up perfectly for next year's free agency or something like that but yeah it's it's it's strange. It's definitely a lot weird. I think you know even vegas was when they were putting that together. The the frustrating for me. I guess it's president. I think they're going to be good like in terms of the both divisional so defensive identity. I think they're going to win. A fair number of games But like a one satisfying argument at the direction they went would be if they were positioning themselves. For the next two drafts which are by all accounts loaded. And we're like all right we're gonna get top picks and try to get franchise players and build offensively through that route and these moves made them better Obviously not to a to a degree that lines up with how much they paid. And how much future term. They took on. But they now. They're kind of forcing themselves more towards the middle and as a team building philosophy. I hate that so not ideal Let's take a quick break here and then we're going to pick up with with more themes and notable signings all that after the break. What's the worst thing about selling your home. Probably all the time. You'll have to scramble for a last minute showing in somehow clean the dishes. Pick up your kids toys. Make all the beds and get out of the house and then our sounds exhausting. That's not the case when you buy and sell the home with orchard they'll help you by moving to your new place first and then orchard will take care of all the showings on your old house. 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The coroner's data pucks recover them. And i think that this free agent class is pretty big on on that kind of player and they got some some long contracts that i think that we can predict are probably not gonna look to caught the second half talking a specifically Blake holman economics line. Zakheim being another. And i i think you can even talk yourself into gave her atlanta skog being a third guy now list in terms of three guys who play the type of game that we have learned in the past ten to age too well across the players thirties. Who nonetheless. I think managed to get themselves pretty long term deals that that teams are probably thinking at a pretty win now perspective about. Yeah i mean. The oilers gave hyman five point. Five over seven Reportedly were trying to get the eighth year. By trading with the leafs in a sign and trade ad leaves returned down a fifth and a seven to make that happen and bring the down a little. Bit I think there is an important distinction because on hyman in terms of i think he's gonna be really good on next year's oilers and he's actually going to help them quite a bit and he's sort of the right type of player. I wish that they would prioritize Finding their own zakheim before he gets paid and developing him. The ways ronald data in terms of clearly improved every year added new skills. Got this point rather than You know just going and paying a premium for the finnish. Finnish made product when he is twenty nine years old. And the other thing. Is you know investing in the way they did. I don't think anyone listening to this. Podcast to tell them the issues with investing pricey seven year deal on a twenty nine year old. That's gonna take them into his mid thirties. But i do think that in this particular case with highlands playing style even more so than than i'd say cold than atlanta skog We sort of saw in the postseason when he was a step slower because injury that he was coming back from he was less effective now. He was hurt probably still so. I don't want to hold that against him too much. But it was kind of a red flag in terms of what this player could potentially look like as a contributor an impact player as he gets into further into today aging process and slows down ever so slightly because he is so reliant on just causing havoc and getting the puck faster than everyone else in so you know. Those are obviously legitimate concerns. But i think if you're edmund jan you're probably can can holland and they dettori doesn't care about this. I mean just look at the offseason. They had so far in terms of the ages of the players they brought in but they're probably thinking we've got dreidel on his deal for four more years we've got a david on his deal for five more years They're both in their mid twenties. We can't afford to have any more ways season. So heck if we can get a couple productive years out of high in play with either of those guys i five one five will worry about the rest later and i imagined that was. It's pretty simple as that. They're the rationale for the deal. They gave out those players. Are you know like in the case of david and try seidel the thing that always gets me about the talk about you know the window is now we have to maximize the window as kind of justification for these contracts that we know are not gonna particularly. Well is that you know. I think that one thing that we can take away from the past couple of years is that is how important it is to make sure that your window as long as possible like is that you have as many of the can as you possibly. Can you know we saw cosby and malkin win backups. In their late twenties early thirties ovechkin obviously yet away quite a while. He was thirty one when he got his anthony stamkos at a big reason that they were kind of able to have so many of the can is. Because i don't think any of those teams really made the kind of big july first acquisitions. They weren't the ones who signed. The lucia's are clarkston or anything like that. They gave themselves the flexibility that they could essentially have a ten year window. And i think one of the issues that i have with what edmonton did. Especially and you know you could theoretically make the argument that that even colorado kind of this is that they emphasized so much. The next couple years like the short-term than maximizing the statistical prime that i feel like maybe they are limiting the chances that they're stars are going to be able to have to actually continue to contend for a cup. If you don't the bucks just don't ask their way and ages turnover falsehood. Their own aren't able to to win a cup in the first couple of years. Also i think anecdotally ryan it feels like these deals where you sign it knowing that the latter half of it is probably knocked. Look pretty but you're hoping that the first couple of years are going to give your team. They added boost. They need it like these deals at an alarming rate. Become much quicker than we probably anticipate like. It's like within a couple of years or maybe even right out of the all of a sudden it becomes clear that it was a mistake. Not that i think. I think hyman assuming health is going to be awesome. Either writing shoko mcdavid or playing with dry seidl and kind of capitalizing on his passing and trying to sort of help them defensively and improve their metrics there but he does feel like in general with these deals where they they seem very. Ill advised on the service they wind. You wind up regretting much. Sooner than you probably think that the day you sign them yes sure The with the oilers. And hyman specifically like you know woah the knock on the oilers for one hundred years You know you going back to even when taylor hall was there. It's like they like four. Nhl wingers on the roster at any one time right. That's not the case anymore. Their problem is very clearly on defense. I think they probably have a bottom. Three bottom five defense in the league A with how everything is set up right now obviously Were not done With the free agency period there can be more traits that sort of thing but it seems like this is the group they're gonna go with and it's bad with that having been said you know I think that this is the thing we talk about on puck soup. A lot is what is can hog care like year four of the Of the hammond deal sucks. Ease going to not have a job anymore. Mcdavid and drizzle might might've asked for trade by them. You know like if they can't they can't like kinda put something together with this like duct tape and chewing gum approach To to adding talent upfront front and and adding maybe the perception of talent. You would say on the back end. it's not gonna it's not gonna matter. It's it's the same principle that you're seeing now in chicago. Where stan bowman's like i'm going to get fired four shore if we don't make the playoffs and maybe even if they do l. a. where they're doing will we go to accelerate the the rebuilding power out of it. We got to sign a filipino. We got we gotta trade for an arvidsson. Because if we don't do that drew doughty announcing colbert aren't gonna want out and you know lake at least with chicago and Oh in vancouver is the other team. That's like this Where it's like. Oh yeah we're destroying. Sign everybody we possibly can. We gotta get aggressive blah blah. You can't leave on the flames out of this conversation. You're you're right like honestly. I feel like the flames are like this shit. Will we do every summer. We just kinda sign like the seventh best guided the seventh biggest contract. And we hope that it's going to sort out all our problems and it never will but like this is this is just. Gm's kinda go. And i need to protect my job here And if these contracts don't work out well you know that's fine because they only need to work once. I yeah i think you know i mean obviously i monitor percent agree with you on on the motivations here i think that they're pretty clear in edmonton the only thing i would push back on. A little bit is on the highland piece. You know i. I agree with you. I think hyman is complimentary player. I especially like to seem dry seidel. I think that that would be a really good. I think he could probably improve recitals defense quite a bit because i think we already saw mcdavid. Take a couple leaps this year but the thing for me is that you know the problem with admit in hasn't necessarily been that they haven't had complimentary pieces on davis line like they've had hopkins and yemen goto and pull in even rv. This year. i think basically played zakheim broil and he did a job of it. The problem with Oilers offensively is that they can't score when connor Andrei aren't on the ice. And i would question but zach. Hyman does to solve that. You know the key. That's a great health and be a little bit better when those two players are on the ice which is great. But you know again. There are two of the players to be his connor. Mcdavid score one hundred and thirty points next year instead of one. Hundred twenty five And meanwhile you know that bottom the lineup. I i really like some of the acquisitions that they made at forward. I think that they actually it went about it. The right way and and i think that they that they've gone about it the wrong way in the past. You know i like worn fogel quite a did you even derek ryan. I think was a very savvy. Acquisition for for the fourth line center role. But you know those aren't guys who are going to go out and score twenty goals for you you know. And and i just i really liked sack highland but i just feel like he's kind of a luxury in terms of what they actually need and he says themselves up he sets them up in a physician like you alluded to dmitry. Where if that thing does go south super quickly if the knee injuries start to pile up if he slows down you know he's he's expanded. His skill set quite a bit like they developed really well in toronto. But you know in. This applies to coleman as while like if the legs start to go. He's not exactly the most kind of cerebral player out there like he. I feel like is gonna lose quite a bit of his value when and if that happens and they might find themselves in a position where you know this kind of once in a window opportunity to really reset the team with a giant pile cap space might come and go without them. Having really addressed their biggest needed forward. Which is you know tertiary scoring. i guess you could say and the crazy part is you. Don't even have to spend a lot of money to get those players. You just have to get them. You know stars right there you know. He's probably gonna million bucks because he was scratching to play off runs for having it on. I shooting percentage of six percent. Yup so but but now they're now they're full up on forwards as it was going to say i. I think four actually projects very well. Yeah i like the way. They're constructed the bottom. Six obviously needs more of a scoring punch but it makes sense as much of your holes. The blue line for me. Like jack when you davidson oilers and i thought you're going to bring up that like i think for me I just find what they did genuinely mind-blowing like i think the opportunity cost of everything they did on the blue line was showed a stunning lack of business. Abby right like cody c. Is a meme deservedly. So because he does funny stuff and i think the unintentional comedy factor of his game is is uncharted but he provided value to penguins last year defensively because he was making one point two five million and because they basically use them as like their fifth most frequently used defense against other teams bottom six and they got respectable numbers out of them. And that's great now the lawyers are basically signing him. And i i assume based on how their depth start shaking out right now will use him. And duncan keith. As essentially their shutdown pair against other teams best players and that brings up a variety of issues. From the fact that they're gonna get eaten alive off the rush. To how many times are we gonna see. Just possessions and the offensive zone for the oilers because mcdavid orders had passed back to one of these guys and they just fired into other teams shin pads or the net wildly like it just in terms of constructing complementary players to how team should be playing. They should be doing. I can't come up with the justification for. Why did they did on a blue. Yeah and this is the thing. I've been saying about karmic davidson's maybe his second or third season. Which is like they. Don't have any defenseman who go and get the life. We love watching karma. David get the puck and go two hundred feet but if a team Was actually supporting him. They would have defenseman. Who get them. Maybe like one hundred twenty feet of the way. Maybe maybe eight feet of the way something like that. But the fact that connor mcdavid has to go off down the ice up and down the ice up and down the ice like he's gonna run out of steam. You know he he could do it for fifty six games this year. Look really good doing it and you know i'm not saying like he's he is out of shape or anything like that but like it's just it takes a physical toll and you and you can't. You can't do a karmic david. Did this season every single night in eighty two game. This is just impossible so you know like to your point about okay you know. I think we all like darnell nurse pretty good. He's a good player interested to see who they put next to him. I think he himself is a good player. Who who kind of does that thing. That i was just talking about now when dario nurses off the ice what happens well. Here's what they're gonna do. They're gonna give tyson barrie premium offensive minutes because he scored a lot of points last year. Which is in. Turn gonna block evan bouchard. Who probably could do a very similar academic for a fraction of the price and then because they signed cody. Ebay bayfield empower the trade ethan bear. Who's also a good player making peanuts. Who was a good asset moving forward. And so that's what. I want to see the opportunity. They basically the players they acquired or the players. They signed here just like it was like a domino effect of all. We're gonna make one questionable of your and it's gonna lead to a series of bad ones and and now they come out of this with this blue line where jacqueline as thirty second ranked blue line in terms of your roster builder. Yeah it's it's not pretty and it's like a sub replacement of a blue line which is not something that was a thing last year like even with the worst team. Scott i mean it's it's a nightmare and and ryan like what you're alluding to the the mcdavid going up and down the ice and dry sauna going down the ice like that's why they're defensive. Numbers have always been so bad is because they are carrying the puck into end because they have so much speed. They end up behind the net. The rush goes the other way. And who are they facing. It's tyson berry darnell nurse and et cetera et cetera. And so and and they get paid on that way and if if the oilers were going to do an expensive renovation of their blue line this year it would've made sense for them to specifically target players who can defend the rush in in recognition of this is the way that mcdavid dry seidel score points by counterattacking. We need to make sure that when the puck goes the other way we're gonna all side and instead of thinking towards that you know. Now they have. I think demetri. You're you're right to say that at ccn. Keith are going to be the shutdown para because you know we saw nursing berry get fed essentially all the minutes with mcdavid last year like that was like i think berry literally played something like eighty four percent of his minutes with mcdavid or dry side last year i think he scored one point without either of them on the ice so i i think it's unrealistic to suggest that they're going to be used in the ups which means that you end up with duncan keith. Who can't defend this blinders. Savers life anymore. And cody c. c. Who maybe has taken some positive steps in that regard. But i wouldn't really wanna see things going downhill towards him too often. And that's i think a recipe for disaster and like you said with the opportunity cost can you confidently say that. The oilers would are better off right now than they would be. If they're top for was are known nursing youth. Bear and caleb jones and evan bouchard. That's fifty million dollars cheaper. And if you say you know that probably doesn't look too good the blue line there much better racist than fifteen million dollars than on the collection of guys that they got so it is baffling. And i hate that. We have to keep ragging on the oilers. Because like every time i wanted to podcasts. That always lines up with some inexplicable transaction. They've made but right they can on one easy. Yep and the other thing to say is on top of everything. We just said about their defense Other goalies are still mike smith. Go coskun like How you defend that as as a gm where it's like. Oh get look. Nobody's saying mike. Smith didn't have a good season last year. But this guy is what he's thirty nine now. This guy is older than me. No lucky if we if we don't if he doesn't work with him who by the way he signed for two more years We can just always fall back on migo coskun in the guy that everybody in ten is like. Oh this guy's a bomb like you know how bad you have to be for the edmonton media to rightfully land on the idea that you're no good like it's amazing. Yeah it happens. Very rarely very rarely. They're usually like i'm furious. With how badly Ryan nugent hopkins is playing. It's like he's not the problem here. You know that. That's the case. All right well ryan. It's it's your turn give other team or or a theme the on talk about i alluded to it earlier. what should bending doing exactly I you know. I i made. I made a a couple of passing references to it on twitter today in a few nuts fans. were like. we'll look. You can't say the forward groups not better in it's like you got me the defense though. Somehow it's worse. I i don't know arena are are we going to be in your ten of the rebuilt like Come next march or april. Yeah down there. Yeah i mean i thought. They had a series of logical moves in terms of shedding the salary that they did. I like the bed on. Halack was very low risk even though you had a bad year last year sherwin hot backup for that price. Yes holt be too. Yeah yeah and then they turn around into just spend a good chunk of those savings on hamilton pullman and just like whiteley conscious book white. Their hands are like all right. We're set on the right side here. And i just i yeah. It's it's mystifying. I did a podcast reasonable. Harming dial about it's i don't i don't have any other connects thoughts. Do you do jack or do you want to move onto a different parallel. The oil is very interesting because like waited to like like the. The projection has the oilers for group at six in the league and their defense at thirty second as the conducted at nights. Best forward group in thirty first defense corps like it really is kind of an interesting parallel with how the conducts made interesting acquisitions like dickinson in garland that i think plug and really nicely and then just matched by taking defense. That was already you know arguably the worst in the league last year and and somehow making it project worse in the sense that i'm getting from every single angry connects fan. Who bombards me with messages. Whenever i pointed this out is that They have hired a new assistant coach to focus on the defense next year. bradshaw from columbus. Who from what. I've been informed as going to wave the magic wand in vancouver in turn all of their bad defense indika defenseman again so i i mean it is possible i i i would certainly hope that clinton is going to have a forty three percent expected goal. Share it this year but it just seemed like a weird decision to go such a route of okay. We're gonna bring the band back together. In terms of having a ham and accuse pairing again. And there were also gonna have ackman larsen and myers pairing and then pullman is the guy that we're gonna put on broad impair lane. Just none of it makes any sense to me Late to two things. Brad hunt coming out. Columbus bradshaw or bradshaw hunters hunt did sign with a them. Yes that's why. I'm literally at their cap friendly page and i saw his name as i was saying that Bradshaw a okay. He's coming he's gonna fix the defense that word out for columbus last year steph. Jones was just doing the media rounds going. Oh i was terrible. I was really bad this year. I don't know what happened. You know like everybody in columbus had like a a career worst year last year. It so that guy's gonna that guy's gonna fix this group and then the other thing and this really. I mean if you need if you ever needed a quote to sum up the jim benning experience right when they say you know what's the plan for all recommend lars. Whoa you know you just you just acquired this. The gave up quite a bit to acquire this defenseman. What do you think his his quote. I don't have it in front of me. But paraphrasing was. yeah. I don't really know why his plus minus was so bad last year but i think we'll figure it out and it's like that that to me is just exactly what jim benning is all about where it's like. You know what i have. These preconceived notions something doesn't line up with them. Is mystifying have an answer. But hey it's all going to work for me baby. I'm jim benning and they're like well. You're not getting fired. So i guess on some level it is all working out for. You can make a quick comment on the bachelor just because we because we brought it up. I just had to look it up really quickly. I it just occurred to me that like while. He was the assistant coach of the blue jackets. They had exactly one season where they were in. Above average expected goals against him and it was the last season like the nineteen twenty year. So yeah you know that really is not a you know and you know. Maybe he's a really great tomato coach. Obviously not evidence of itself but if you're expecting him to turn around you know i think it's fair to say see fences. I think you could fairly say the word have been the worst events in the league at least last year and arguably the before in terms of just the sheer amount quality they allowed and the rush chances in a high danger opportunities and everything. And you know if you're going to turn this thing around at a year with no substantial difference in personnel except the added a guy ecm larson who the entire prayer on turning around is that. He's going to be happier in vancouver than he was in arizona because none of physical you know indicators of of somebody turning around their game are really present. That's that's a lot of hope to depit on a guy. And i feel like we could see a lot of six five seven. Six games between the oilers conducts unless the connects goaltending. Coach is able to continue to work the miracles that he has for the past few seasons and then during mccracken. And it's going to be like negative to to to one is going to be such a wild disparity between the defensive metrics highway All right we've been. We've been pretty pretty negative for the most part and i feel like this is the first day of free agency typically to those reactions because a lot of nonsensical decisions are made in panic moves. I wanna give the lightning and love because i joked on twitter about how the salary gap is kind of. Just like it's mostly suggestion was obviously parlaying jest. But i do believe that it only really limits you as much as your own sort of creativity. Ambition does and so the lightning just every year. It seems like we're wondering what's going to happen. No they're going to be up against it this time and all the times it is for whatever reason then finding away to talk a team into helping them out and most recently they get the blackhawks. Take tyler johnson's five million dollars over the next three years off. Their hands are going to be fine now. Pretty comfortable and also go. You know they go. Whatever they add period. Edward they add. Brian elliott the anzac. Or whatever offer. Cheap nice little pieces but also kind of somewhat quietly. I guess just turn around and one year ahead of time to sign britain point to a massive extension matches kucherov in basle obscure like all right. Well this isn't going to be an issue for us moving forward because we now we have them on a great value. Deal all of a sudden. We'll always they had the entire time but in terms of not worrying about What's going to happen with him in the future and so just in terms of the way they conduct their business. I feel like we just spend an hour talking about mistakes. And that's more interesting purposes to talk about but the lightning are a team that really seems to take advantage of all these available to them and just get it done through creative ways and i wanted to give them some some love your because it feels like we have been very negative so yeah i'll go ahead right. Oh well i was just gonna say like For them a team that is going to spend above the cap because they get to Like for them to have an almost twelve million dollar a swing in cap space by trading by training for seabrook deal and trading away. Tyler johnson masterstroke Like if you're the tampa bay. Lightning giving away player for nothing of a good player. A solid middle of the lineup forward Giving him waiver nothing except a dead contract. One of the worst contracts signed in recent memory That all works out great for you. That's incredible to me and they. They're they're just doing it every year. I would be shocked if they figured out how to get somebody else. Who's who's just like lt are retired. 'cause why not and then and then they can go out and they can get thomas guitar or whoever thought. They're going to get thomas to me. I think it's to me the tyler. Johnson i understand it was a season ago so he had an extra year term and it was a different different time in terms of how teams or spending. But we just like the jack. Your you're waivers straight. We just talked about how pilot johnson literally passed away and then because they're a really good team they wanna cup. He performed well himself a fourth line role scores from geeky goals. But now all of a sudden they're able to flip him without retaining any salary all they give up as a second so they get to keep their first for future use as well and it's just yeah once again they just regular out of it. The blackhawks were all too willing to help them out. And it's it's a good piece of work and so Yeah it's lower. You'd say about them check. Yeah i guess that the the two things. I it's always amusing with With the tampa cap stuff is that every time they make transaction that's related to cap space. There's always the immediate reaction of okay. This shouldn't be allowed. And i'm not saying that that's like a bitter thing writing that i'm just saying it's always the entertaining thing to me. Is that they. They are able to kind of bend but not break the rules so much that when they do the thing you know. It's totally eliades That's other rules go. They're able to do the trough thing you know. Then you know this time they acquire a player who has fallen tens of services retired and now they have them on their books and they're able to do the swing that way you know both situations where people can make arguments that it shouldn't be allowed but you know tampa doesn't care about that. They just they make it work at the second. Quick thing was that i just thought it was using that you know according to the projection model that breaking point contract projects the including the last year on his current deal projects to be the best contract in the league like it just goes through his entire prime. He's an excellent player. He's making less than ten million bucks and he's not really going to decline that much over the course of it at all. I just found it amusing. That is assigned a couple of days. Later in is the exact same term and As but is protected as the worst contract in the league which is the set jones contract so a lot of respect to tampa bay for having such a quick turnaround on that one. All right well Is there any other any other teams or players or Or themes that either. You wanted to get to so i did. I did want to talk about The bruins a little bit. I alluded to it earlier. With with the fort riley compares but like I should say they've done a really good job of of adding talent that without breaking the bank or anything like lindahl market is gonna cost them a bit of money and they just created damn wash for a third round pick. I think it was But taylor hall six million bucks and only four years. Seems like it's going to be a really good value for them. I am so sorry. I was just gonna say i'm gonna get to this but i i agree with you. The riley one in the in the hall extensions or both fantastic. I i wish they would have just. Maybe this wasn't an option. Maybe the operative forever in blake. Goldman picked calgary but they were the other team linked to him. And i understand the risk involved in this six year deal or whatever. You're the bruins. whatever. I would have taken that money. They gave they gave what three point. Eight to one point. Seven five to know zach. Two point three seven five two holler like would have been such a good player on this team the perfect winger and and maybe wasn't available to them or maybe they were too scared off by the six year term. But i wish they like gone that route instead Than i would have said it was like the best off-season yeah like that. That's that's the thing right where it's like i. I made a joke onto a really awry. Said like how many bottom six ford is one team need because they also have It should be said like a fair number of pretty good bottom six forwards already on the roster and so you know like pollino helps knows the kelps alps and and don sweeney said was that he likes. They can all play multiple positions. They can all play upper down in the lineup. As as need be and a lot of this kind of seems like david crazy doesn't resign insurance. I saw that there was a rumor around that that was gonna happen at some point. It hasn't happened yet. i'm sure that if he does sign somewhere. Boston will be the only team he really considered. It won't be for a lot of money 'cause he he just made a whole lot of money on this last contract so if we're if we're looking at what boston needed to do to shore up the defense we talked about Edmonton's problem was always that they didn't do anything good when mcdavid and And dry side were off. The is also the knock on the bruins Up until the the hall trade with When the when the bergeroo online came off the ice they were terrible So this settles that problem for them And i guess now the only thing you say is like boy. They use that four money a little bit better. Like if you're using it as a bottom pair guy. And he's going to be the the kevin miller punching people replacement. I guess that's fine. But i just think that The the bruins really solidified their spot for me like right near the top of that vision. Yeah i i would. I agree with tomato. I really would like to see coleman go there or even like i had the islanders. This kind of an interesting fit for him. I thought he would really really well there. I think it is kind of. I just disappointing to see coleman. Go to calgary. I think just you know. He's such kind of a playoff type player. We saw him kind of excel in that situation where he was. You know a. I think arguably the missing piece on those tampa teams. That really kind of helped. Like in place and i am a little disappointed that he's not going to be you know filling that role whether it was on the hall line or or in new york if he was kind of adding some scoring depth to that team that he's going to be kind of on on his calgary team. That is kind of innocent alluded to where we just kinda don't really know what they're doing I i agree with ryan you know. I like some of the some of the pieces that boss nat in the bottom six some of them. I thought were were a bit of a stretch that that fully knows second year might be a little dicey but you know overall. I think boston did what they had to. To keep up with pack 'cause they were at risk of being left behind and even if baby that ullmark deal is a little risky. I think that considering what florida's done and obviously tampa bay in toronto are still kind of trying to be strong contenders. Boston really had a choice but to to push all their chips wall while the marsin bergeron Pasternack line is is still the best mullaly. Yeah no. I agree with that on the whole thing. It's funny like everyone. The flames added Has good like defensive backs. But it's such a darryl sutter thing that just laying down on it and i guess like the ones as i really interested if they do play like coleman back on or something like that that's going to be one buzzsaw alliance. I'm i love when the player but yeah you're right but we'll see on islanders. They would have been an interesting bit for them. They've been in very lateral fashion. Very very quiet just lurking in the shadows and it seems like they're gonna bring back paul area and probably do a bunch of other stuff so we will see on that all right. Let's let's get out here. I need to. I need to lay down to have a couple of beers. It's been a very very long day over here. we don't have to do. The the modesty were like oh people should go go. Check out ep. Rinkside people have to check out if it. They're listening to this podcast. They should do so. We have an unreal amount of great content up there and if you're interested in signing up you wanna promo code for it. feel free to hit any of us up and we'll We'll help get you started on that. So guys oblast. I'm glad we've got to do this. Thanks for taking the time at the end of a a very crazy and we're gonna check back in at some point. We're both all right. That was good too about all right. That's going to be for today's episode. Occupied your guests. Thanks as always for listening. 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Kristin Cavallari & Jay Cutler Split + Interview w/ Outer Banks Stars Chase Stokes & Madelyn Cline

Chicks in the Office

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Kristin Cavallari & Jay Cutler Split + Interview w/ Outer Banks Stars Chase Stokes & Madelyn Cline

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Fran disgust macys dot com slash chicks in the office shop. Our looks brand. How're you doing on this lovely Sunday afternoon? Which feels like the morning. Because I only woke up an hour ago. How are you feeling today I'm I'm good. I feel good this. You know it's really just a simple things. Joe made a amazing Bacon Egg and cheese this morning. That just like set the mood for the day like it was like. Wow this is a report. Good Sandwich that's Now I feel good. The weather's Kinda grow so it's like a good lazy Sunday for sure. Not that the days of the week really even matter but it has that lazy Sunday vibe. I don't we just got the news that Kristin Cavallari and Jay Cutler divorced like just happened. We'll talk about it but we've we just saw. That's really all that I'm thinking about but really how are you doing? I'm doing good. I'm chilling I feel like you know it is what it is. At this point. There was a time where like every time we started the show. We talked about corona. And what's going on and of course we're still reminded of that every day but at this point in time I just wake up and I have accepted the fact that I can't go anywhere and I just live. My apartment is today made brownies for the first time ever so. That was surprised that that was the first time you've ever done. It was weird. Hank randomly which is why. Don't you try? Make we'd Brownies okay. And I realize that my Mara given me a box of Brownie. Mix at the beginning of quarantine when she drop some stuff off for me so shallots down that thank you. Mama made meet Brownies with your one full. Mix You and Yeah it was my first time and I was kind of nervous because there's so much work that goes into their I. It's way harder than people think like you become a scientist at the beginning like you're literally you're doing lab work. I felt like I was in breaking bad. Like I got separating things you look up stuff but I ended up just asking my cousin who is basically a chef slash hotheads. So I feel like that was the best by the to buy material. Felt like I knew what I was doing and yet I felt like it worked. I mean I was pretty high. Hank was like on another planet which was hilarious to watch. The girls were damning. Neither like this is what I did to make them. And they didn't work and the amount of work. These people were putting into their brownies and it just never worked for them in mind. It only took like I say it took a lot of work. I don't need it only two hours. Some people were doing it for eight hours and it didn't work. I think you re point where it you just did too much now. Now there's nothing left. There's no thc left to give about. I don't know I don't know science behind it but I know yeah it's if you've never done it and you think that your dislike going to bake we'd insist Brownie. It's just not what you have to know. You don't just throw the wheat and mixed it's gathering throat and the up like that. Were but I didn't do that. I did. You know you do the whole process in a whole process. Yeah I think I have a whole batch now I have been having to avoid I keep going the regular brownies and I'm like no. No no stop yourself. Zeon WANNA go down this path. Yeah causing gave me strict instructions. He was like never eat more than one as much as you think you want to do. Which obviously I had grounded before. It was not my own so yeah. It's a dilemma. When the actual Brownie is really good like just tastes really good. Because then you the we'd Brownie makes you want to have more brownies. But you don't have any you have to make regular brownies on top of like the way. Brown is an NS separate them. Yeah I thought that was too much work so I'm just GONNA. I'm GonNa make crunch wraps again today. Feel like that's blue. That is a good idea activity to a at this point. I'm just hungry like that's it at all times. I am hungry all on but it is what it is we got like. I mean I don't want to say how much time we have left. Because they think that. I think that this is the thing that we're going to be doing for a long time in the summer. Right while it's crazy because for those listening who maybe aren't in New York or in different places. A lot of the restrictions and every like a lot of things are being lifted in the next week or so in a lot of different states. New York is not going to be like that. Obviously because New York is the worst place. So it's GonNa be a while for US PROMO SLIGHT EGLI. So even the people other people who kind of do go back to normal life in in different places For us it'd probably you're right is going to be into the summer would be would be my guess as well. So we'll see we're we're will keep keep doing what we're doing or just pushing along chugging along keeping this train going of adding new the entertainment that you need to get through this I've seen a lot of really nice messages from people to both my account checks in the office. I'm sure that you've got a lot of Nice messages as well sorts. WanNa say thank you to those people who are sending us love and I just want to send you love back because it makes us feel good it makes us want to keep doing this entertaining guys and you know the people who are at work right. Now they say that we're keeping them distracted and keeping them entertain. That is the highest compliment that you can get to us by far. You know what I mean like are going through a hard time and then you come to us new say. Hey you are really providing you with this laughter entertainment. I love you. Thank you for that Ion. It's definitely really really nice. We have a bunch of topics to get into. Of course we are going to be talking about. Kristen Cavalieri Jay Cutler's divorce announcement a just announced it about an hour ago. We're recording now. The Jones spellers new documentary. Happiness continues on Amazon. Taylor swift is calling out. Scooter Braun once. Again Clara Crawley sent out a cryptic tweet about some Bachelorette contestants and of course we have our feel good segment and our interview with chase. Oaks embattled You have to reduce us. I can't hours nervous and of course we have our interview with chase. Stokes and Madeleine Kline Aka John. B Excited at this point keeps us in. Just keep it no got it out. Cut John Ambien Sarah Cavern from We are so excited to have them on the show. We talked to them for about an hour. We'RE GONNA be talking to Rudy in Jonathan Davis as well this week. So that's really exciting to make sure you listen to this day are amazing people. So let's get into it starting off with pricing capillary and Jacob the blank page before you open up the sun style so close talk so in very sad and devastating news on this dreary Sunday law. We're recording kristen. Cavalary Jay Cutler have announced that they are getting a divorce in quarantine. No less like people. D- This is just the news that people do not need right now and I. I was shocked. I think a lot of people were shocked. This is definitely something I didn't see coming. I mean they were just in the Bahamas for like a month on on vacation. That seemed like they were having a grand old time but maybe not i. It relationships are complicated. Who knows what's been going on but Kristen Post on instagram and wrote with great sadness. After ten years together we have come to a loving conclusion to get a divorce. We have nothing but love and respect for one another and are deeply grateful for the year shared memories made and the children. We are so proud of this just a situation of two people growing apart. We ask everyone to respect our privacy as navigate this difficult time within our family so I see this L. upset but looking back now on Kristen Cavalieri Jay Cutler's more Christian capillary. 'cause she posts frequently. Jay Cutler Post that frequently when they were in the Bahamas. Kristen Caballero did not post one picture Jay Cutler. Every picture she posted a couple picture was actually just with her hairdresser. So anytime I saw Chris in capillary with a guy recently Jay Cutler scroll bypassed it it was not it was her and this is something maybe that was going on for a while. I mean they were in the Bahamas together. stuck there with their kids but maybe it was like a last effort. Go on vacation if things get better. I mean Yeah. Imagine getting a divorce during quarantine. I can't think of anything worse than that beside actually getting corona. Like you are going through a divorce while you're stuck in the same house and then you decide to announce that to the public right now. My thoughts are why 'cause I feel really bad for them obviously y now like. Why are you announcing this right now? Like this is just. It's it feels strange to not like go through private privately. And then maybe they just had a have been. Maybe maybe there's so done with each other that they're that's it. I'm telling the world that I'm done with you because I'm so fucking sick of you. Or maybe they dislike quarantine. They've had so much alone time. Granted not really because they just came the Baha. They coming back from the Bahamas. Wasn't that long ago but I don't know it makes me think however was kind of joking about how during this time. It's like make or break for couples. Couples will thrive couples will bend break like having to be forced to spend this much time together. And you know laughing about Marriages DIVORCES MARRIAGES ARE GONNA end. People can't be in the same house with each other for the long U. C. Christina Jane. It's like oh I guess. That's maybe a slimmer situation. They were in the same house too long and they were like this is. We're not really a great couple anymore. Maybe they realized that they're just better as parents and they just like kind of parent and like the love within. That relationship isn't isn't really there anymore. Who knows that That could totally be possible. But in my opinion now this could not be. You know the case rapper one but I feel like if you weren't having problems Pre Quarantine and then you go into quarantine and then you start having problems right. I like data time. We need to sit down to like okay. We are just fighting right now because stuck in the same place. We weren't like this before in a regular day to day lives. We need to take it easy. Yeah I feel like if you were already having problems than it makes so much sense by the time you get right. You're like all right. I'm done with you. We have to get a divorce because I can't even live with you anymore. So maybe that was the case. Maybe it's been going on for longer than we know. I'm sure that is probably the case. We don't know these people they don't tell us everything about our lives and like we were talking about before we have seen some drama happened. Yeah relationship because of one of Christine's friends claim yet lottery numbers a hurry in J. Were sleeping together and let me tell you it would not be easy for me to get over like if I was married and then all of a sudden my friend was saying she slept with my husband. I really know how well well. We'd get through it she. She didn't say that they were together but she didn't say that they weren't. You know with the rumors. The rumors started that there is something going on. And she like didn't step up in totally deny what was going on and I think that really pissed off. Kristen so it's definitely not a good sign when those rumors even exist in the first place. But I don't know the Kristen J you hope that they have figured it out because you know when they first got together There they did have a break up before they had gotten married and they had worked out and got back together and everything so at Sox at the yeah they weren't able to to make it work and it's sad because that probably means no more J. on very cavalry and I think he's a lot of people's favorite part of the show to I was thinking that as well that was everyone's I thought they were like no J. B. on on cavalier but I also thought and this is just fucked up with me for loving the reality. Tv show game. I was like what? If Kristen goes back in time she starts dating Brody Jenner Gun all of a sudden. She's back on the hills and then we have like the full hills cast together. Yeah decided I'M NOT GONNA lie. That thought also popped into my head. I can't I can't deny that I didn't think that either and I saw that and I was like. Oh maybe she could go back in the hills but like there's the opportunity town. Yeah is that that is crazy. I just and it's sad because they do have three small kids so hopefully they they make it work and give that the you know co-parenting life. They they crushed that so that these kids don't suffer at all and it'll be. I'm sure they'll figure it out she. They're both very strong. But it's very zad and like you said super unfortunate timing shit don't even though this shit like Wolf. We have some more drama in Bachelor nation not shocking because the offseason does not quit these people. They're not messing around. They keep us filled with the drama all year. Round and now Claire is stepping into the ring To share her thought. I love about contestants going on Cameo and Doing Interviews Aka. This was a direct shot at matching. You went who we like. We like a lot. Matt is a great guy and he just got caught in the Clare. Crossfire here. Yes Claire this this tweet shows what kind of. Bashar at Claire is going to be and this is what I said to. From the beginning that she was she will not be afraid to like give. These guys abused for mind if if that needs to happen So she tweeted. If you were doing interviews and creating cameo accounts with four you are even on my season dot dot dot. You are in it for the wrong reasons. Dot Dot Hashtag. Don't waste your time so yeah like you said. Obviously this is about Matt. James Matt is Tyler Cameron's best friend they are in quarantine together. We've got a lot of content from them Matt's in all the tick tock all the Docs dot crew. It seems like he in Hannah. Brown got really really close. Basically my best friends. And it's it's an it's such because T- Matt has really kind of been doing a lot of this stuff for charities donating the money from Cameo. He's trying to support these kids doing these interviews talking about the ABC Food Tours. Right but Claire Does Not Care. It's it's kind of a sticky situation because also if you think about the other contestants that are going on the season like maybe bear also making dachshund whatnot. You're not seeing them because they're not well known like Matt James. Not James Right is well known because in this. I don't know if the sound wrong or not. But it's Kinda true because he's best friends with Tyler. He's always with tyler yet. They are always together. They are in quarantine together so we see them together every single day and people have learned to really like him from getting to know him through Tyler in ABC Food Tours last year and just like everything making him known. You know what I mean so I feel like they kind of had to expect that with him any way that he was going to be out there because he already was out. There wasn't like a no-name person beforehand in Bachelor Or knew who he was before he was cast on the show so rights. It's tough situation now. Do I think that they're like meant to be together? No so get franchise moving her head back and forth. No no but I do think that he would be great in the bachelor franchise but like. Yeah. Maybe not this season now. Who knows what's GonNa Happen because I'm sure they're gonNA keep him on. Still because Claire is GONNA yell at him face to face kind of drama. We need on this yet but I did not expect James to be the one with the problems going on this show. You know I thought maxium so totally. We're going to be like. Oh my God. We Love Matt. James Matt for Bachelor in now. I feel like he's going to be painted in a different white. But meanwhile what? You're saying with the charities. He's doing a good thing he's not. Yeah isn't seem to be doing it for her like selfish reasons if he's a charity and whatnot trying to spread the news about that so kind of a messy situation. It definitely is and the reality. Is this show. The Claire cannot be selfish enough to think that every person cast on this show at this point is like dying to mirror a her. I I know that that is the premise of the entire thing. And you're supposed to be there for the right reasons but the show is just evolved. That's just not the way it goes anymore. They totally cast people who they think. Could be good bachelor's or who could be good on Bachelor in paradise the day they are looking at all those things now and even from the beginning when we saw the first Group of guys that were cast on the season Matt was on the list. Both of us were like well. That's probably not gonNA work out with Claire. But he would be on paradise who'd be great as a bachelor. I still think that I still think you'd be a great bachelor. And so I'm still gonNA be team I'd like you said we've we've met him. We've hung out with him. He's a great guy. And if he if he gets out of the LIMO and Claire just Threads right away and sends him home all right. He said home but he's technically in the world so maybe he'll just packed his bags to paradise. Right I agree with you. I am also going to be on Matt side but I feel like. He's probably not going to last as long as a initially expected. In the next the making on paradise he could still be part of the franchise. I mean he's still best friends tyler. That's not going to change so still going to land and I think all in all he's a good guy. I don't think he had bad intentions. And well. He's doing this so no I don't think I don't think it is grounds for him. Not Being on the show. I think that would be unfair. And that he should content like unless unless. Abc Does on there. But I don't think they would like I think he you know he'll stay cast and have Claire Really. Is that pissed off and you just immediately sends him home then so be it. He becomes like grocery store. Joe I don't think he can. 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Hey Guys I wanNA thank my fans for making me aware that my former record label is putting out a album of live performances of mind tonight. This recording from two thousand eight radio show performance. I did when I was eighteen. Big Machine has listed the date as twenty seventeen release but they're actually releasing it tonight at midnight. I'm always honest with you guys about this stuff so I just wanted to tell you that. This release is not approved by me. It looks to me like scooter. Braun his financial backers twenty-three capital Aozora Family and the Carlisle Group have seen the latest balance sheets and realized that Pang three hundred thirty million for music wasn't exactly a wise choice and they need money laugh Vase EMOJI IN MY OPINION. Just another case of shameless greed in the time of virus so tasteless but very transparent. So here we have more drama unfolding between Taylor Swift's and scooter. Braun and the Big Machine Label Company Group. Whatever suck. It's called name like don't you agree? There's something yeah I was thinking about this name. Of course. We have more drama with that and it seems like Scooter Braun now is grasping at anything. Make money off Taylor swift while he can and we're not really seeing him talk about it as much seen Taylor swift kind of shed light on it for fans are obviously super detectives where I don't even think any of us would have known this was happening in Klay Swift. Told everyone was happening. Because they're super fans found it but I do understand why she needs to address something like this when her super fans are the ones Finding it out because when you think about it like those are the people you turn to to find out information about yourself and other people you know what I mean totally so I get why she address it and yeah it just seems like such a another shaving move on their part. I don't know why they can't just leave it alone. They have Ariana Grande Day Justin Bieber Demi levato right. He has all these great clients. Why is this still a thing that he needs to be making money off Taylor swift well honestly well big machine is its own separate thing and big machine is a smaller label? But because of Taylor swift that was really what catapulted them and so he like really like Taylor said he really spent all that money to have Taylor songs. And I'll be in charge of this label that obviously is not thriving without Taylor Swift. Because she was the star of the show they are. Now she's gone and they what she what it seems to be trying to Make sure that they're still using Taylor's masters to to keep the label alive and to keep doing stuff at at big machine now. I read this variety article. That was also interesting. Just kind of explaining A lot of this stuff so they had wrote that while there has been no official comment for big machine insiders say the material was made available. Do Oh my goodness pop up ad. Okay was made available. Dsp's after a license for the live show was expired and got renewed and that the label has no expectation of a windfall from the album but is likely to make sixty thousand eighty thousand dollars in a year from being available for streaming insiders with knowledge of the thinking at the Labor camp says this was considered a routine release a material that had already been out publicly and that despite swift's well-known feelings about the handling of her catalog there was no deliberate intention of antagonizing the singer And says the label is known to have a library of Swiss Tracks that have never been a never released out in any form which it maintains it has the right to release although there are not known Known to be any plans to do so so and it's weird because this live from clear channel. Strip two thousand eight. Which is the album that Taylor is referring to has never been released in album form but three of the songs have gotten limited official releases in years past two tracks. Were on video on a bonus. Dvd FOR ATAR. Target exclusive for fearless. And then the third was the B side of a record. That was last year or so. It just seems like this was. I really think they have something that they sneaky. Vega just put out nobody would really notre care and like you said sixty thousand eight thousand is not a an insane amount but if they're making money from people streaming these songs then great. That's that's the point so I feel like they just put it out. Maybe hoping no one will notice and then people would stream it and they could just continue to to go on their way. I don't know how at this point they would think they can get get anything. Bhai Taylor Swift without her noticing. Without letting her know I mean she has spies all over the place Which is clear because every time something is about to be released she knows about it and gets in front of it so you know. I don't know if this feud or whatever it is ever going to end up like always going to be back and forth thing until that contract is officially or while I mean now not now until she Maybe records her stuff. Because it's it's tough because you also think we probably would have never seen this being released. I had not seen anything about it until Taylor posted about it. And I'm like you said I feel like a lot of people are probably the same way. So it makes me think Taylor addressing it puts even more attention behind it like I wouldn't have gone to search it on apple music if I didn't see it now I know that it's there and I'm sure a lot of other people. Maybe did that as well. And we'll actually listen to it. It could potentially help them get more streams so maybe Taylor's better off not letting go but she does clearly does not feel that way she will. She's GonNa take every opportunity she can to say something about scooter Braun dots. I think that's confirmed Masuku. Full you league taking off sucks full you. The Jonas Brothers officially released their new documentary. Happiness continues on Amazon prime. Obviously this was a great surprise to every Jonas Fellers Fan out there we do not know. A second documentary was coming. They announced it on Wednesday or Thursday. And then all of a sudden it was out early so it's very exciting friend. How did you feel about this documentary? I thought it was great. It's a great tour documentary you sometimes. I think people go into the tour documentaries with really high expectations of tons of behind the scenes stuff and there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff but the majority of a tour. Documentary is the tour and watching them perform so it was great. I think to relive those moments and to reload the whole tour because the happiness begins tour was just so awesome but it was great. I mean I watched Thursday. Thursday night was the draft so I had to wait after after the two and I felt so bad because I was watching with my Jonas friends on zoom and and they made them all wait for me like it came out way earlier in the night and I made them away but they are all amazing ladies and they waited and we got together and then Talk about it but I look. Obviously I loved it. I kinda wish maybe you know could have just a little spotting little Rian France bonding somewhere. None absolutely zero and like I wouldn't even be mad if if just you weren't at me like I'm just shocked that you weren't even in one stop because even though we went to five shows together you went to like eight Intel et so I am confused how you got no camera time whatsoever is what's going on. Can you hear me hold on Helen? An ad started playing on my on my thing. Okay I was like. Let me tell you something. I was confused. Just in general why. You weren't even spotted. Not once you or your. Jonas friends like I was looking very frustrating. Although you know the Jones Brothers we still love you and appreciate you. Thank you for coming on the show but just a little sneak peak out next to Priyanka at one of the shows and and it's funny because we are really joking guys. It's like there the whole comes from on the whole yes because the the whole thing was but I think kind of in the trailer sort of in the beginning it made. It seem like they were using footage from so many shows when I think they used footage from like four shows like it doesn't really seem like it. Was that different like they used. I would say a majority Mexico City against. That's like you would change. I think the crowd and then when they reforming you could see the signs and their Rena and the signs are in Spanish. So case they use these Mex- Mexico City for a for a lot of it. But I was curious. I love seeing them. Build the tour. They're still like so mean to Kevin sometimes just like what they were in the Coliseum and there there were looking out and the the they're studying the stage everything and Kevin tried to get like sentimental being like you know I. I didn't know if I was ever going to be doing this again in being here with you guys in Nickel Joe or like goal story Kevin. It's it just opens up the gates for everybody to act like that to Kevon and now I'm on we have hank. And what sets him? Apart of my take is because Joe and nick are influencing the Kevin bullying which is fine. Because there his brother's yes the end of the day right at the end of the day. They're all brothers. Like the oldest. I'm the oldest in my family and my two younger siblings. Like Shit on me all the time that I am Kevin Jonas like day. I'll tell a story or you know. Say whatever it is and literally my to my siblings will be like six story. Friend like tells again like I. It's usually eyewitnesses Florida. I felt like when you're younger. Siblings like I was kind of joining in with GE and every time like I am Kevin. Jonas and Nick is literally my sister Jia and was just like cool Kevin and every time you're himself get out of the shop lease goodbye goodbye housing but no Sabbath is Kevin Again. Brought up being left out of the shows is a and it. Kinda got serious again where they were talking about that a little bit but then I would say the majority of the documentary was very happy. They all seem like so so happy to be all together and do the tour and have the girls there Joe Joe talking about when he sings hesitate and his. He'll hours like he wrote his vows before actually writing vows and he closes his eyes for half the song when he sings it because he pictures Sophie walking down the aisle again. It's just hours crying. Big It's so beautiful and then they're also just so funny like seeing Sovi slapped him in the face for the his pre show rituals in Soviet Rocking out to the songs and all them having so much fun at the shows is just great and I was very jealous of that Chicago. Show like an which is so unfair. Because we've had so many cool shows opportunities that we've where we've gotten to see them but they played that small club in Chicago and they use a lot of footage from it a lot and it just it was great because it seemed like they were all just so happy to be to be together with the gang. Yeah it honestly it was. It made me feel good that we went to as many shows as we did because washing that back. If we didn't I would be so jealous. Followed people at these shows because it looked so awesome on the TV. It was even better in person and it just made me think about like the Jonas brothers era that we had in the summer. Because it's Kinda pass now especially Amien concerts at this point in time. We got our fair share in while we could. We sure did we sure did twenty nineteen was just the you're the Jonas and it was just fantastic Friday night. They jumped in people's zooms so you could send their meeting. Id and whatever and it was so funny because my friends we were in a zoom and two of the girls were in another zoom and they are. I mean next like next level like I am crazy but I love him to death they are next level and they two of them were part of the group that were flown to La when they first announced that they were getting back together and it was like a surprise gone all their fans and you can watch video on Youtube. Two of them are in the video and so they are in a separate zoom and we went into that zoom and so my friends were on their zoom like what the John's brothers but then on their phones with ours zoom and just like we're filming the zoom on their phones and we all we were all just dead silent. Listen to them talk to You. Decided to not tell me this and use. I'm telling you right now that but that sounds Joe Dad's I feel like we're not being friends at this point that you didn't even text me. That one happened Noah. Don't you feel a little off about that no I sometimes? I like to keep things you know. The thing is though when they were and we ask each other it was. I'm very offering out but it's working out. They weren't in mind Zuma's like if I if I physically talk to them I would have. I would have obviously said something but I was like super quiet and couldn't even really understand what they were saying the whole time and it was really quick. That's that's fair but they still popped up kind of in your zoom. It was We zoomed in the. We were watching another zoom. That they that they were yes. Yes so yeah. I don't know how to describe that and like we're getting a new album. I thought that the new album will be coming sooner than later. But it seems like it's done and there's a new song at the end of the documentary. X. is what it's called. Yeah I don't know what a new album would becoming because it's not like I feel with artists. Now it's promoting. It is way different although I think. Yeah New Music is Great. While we're all inside in everyone would appreciate new music. I also feel like artists want to be able to like go sing their new music as well. We'll say in their own different places too so I'm sure it's hard with everybody in different homes and different locations but documentary was a was a nice a nice gift. It was very kind of them. Become best you guys know that we absolutely love coors light. 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It has to do with beyond say beyond say announced that she will be donating six million dollars to mental health facilities during Corona virus. She announced that her bay. Good B. Y. G. O. D. Initiative will donate six million dollars to support mental health organizations in a statement her website she announced she's partnering with Ucla. And Twitter's CEO Jack Dorsey start small to add to aid organizations that provide mental wellness services She's supporting organizations out on the ground. Twenty four seven including United Medical Center bread of Life Matthew. Twenty five and others to address these dire needs in some. The hardest hit hit areas providing basic necessities including food water cleaning supplies. Medicine's face masks in personal hygiene items. Would these basic necessities mental burdens are also accelerated She's also partnering with the National Alliance Mental Mental Illness to provide local support in Houston New York New Orleans and Detroit. And she's just doing a ton a ton of great things. The donation will not only combat the mental health toll on essential workers but aid communities of color that are suffering at higher rates due to the chronic virus. Pandemic say yes very very proud to be onto here. I mean that sounds strange. Like I'm proud beyond say she's fucking beyond but yes. Isis see celebrities doing great things with the money that they have a better fortune. Fortunate enough to have in. They understand that and they just want to help other people. It's great to see and every time we see some Something like this. It just reminds me of Ellen on Mike Allen onto a little bit. I know I know and I love that you know. She has been a part of these things she did. The stood Disney. Sing along. She she's been popping up here and they are making sure that her voice is heard and making sure that she is highlighting D- saying that these topics that some people aren't discussing are aren't as prevalent in the mainstream media so that unlike set at amazing announcement from beyond say The other story is Tom. Hanks I mean honestly at this point anything Tom Hanks just slap feel good on it. Like it's there's it's normally going to be something positive but Tom. Hanks donated this typewriter to this Australian boy. Local eight year old boy who was being bullied because his first name is corona. And he wrote to Tom Rita Wilson after. They were diagnosed. Apparently I heard on the news. You and your wife had caught the corona buyers. Are you okay? I love my name but at school people call me the Chroma virus. I get very sad and angry when people call me this an eight year old time so sad lo and behold the outlive reporter that. Tom Saw the letter and replied with a special gift. Your letter may my wife and I feel so wonderful. Tom wrote thank you for being such a good friend. Friends make their friends feel good when they are down. I saw I saw you on TV even though I was back in the USA already and all healthy. Even though I was no longer sick getting your letter made me feel even better And then he sent him a corona brand typewriter that he has posted on His instagram before it. Has You know the corona name written on it and it said that he. I guess you know Tom Later. Wrote his personal Leonard Corona Acid grownup. How it works and use it to write me back. You've got a friend in me. Tom Kid first of all now. All those kids at school that were making fun of poor. Corona are jealous that bear name is not corona. Because he got to give from Tom Hanks he got noticed by Tom. Hanks and now they're all going to want to be his friend and he's GonNa tell them. Hey you know what too bad Tom? Hanks is my friend in your. Yeah Yeah and just Tom Hanks rights. He just writes the best notes the best letters the best replies. They're always the sign off is always fantastic. I don't even obviously. It might not be as clear to this eight year old boy but getting a letter from Tom. Hanks with the last line being. You've got a friend in me is just I could show I I know is just unbelievable and such a nice gesture and Just Tom Hanks what a guy continues Immonen ALMAC cheaper three hundred like the romance going on and maybe living living in the moment but lonely finish could about the go talk about hunting but it's nowhere to go and there's no way to slow. I would have been like that on your way. We are here with to a very special guest. Madeleine Kline and chase stokes. They play John and Sarah Cameron in Netflix is new show Outer Banks. We are pumped to have you guys here. Welcome to the show for us. Guys are like you said so where we've done nothing but talk about this show for a week straight plus amazing go to throw her under the bus man. Oh Oh by the way. I didn't even talk about this. Other recaps have actually two things to mention one in the last episode there was Viva stool sticker of arsenal sticker in Iraq. Which I just found out the other day and I don't think you guys would know that but I was very excited and number two number two I did call Ward Cameron Cam Ward. I'm tired I grew up playing hockey but that was my jam. Full lives when I heard that at first I was like looking for the Carolina hurricanes right in the Carolinas. I was replaced funding. I think I just like had heard the name before in is already names are just kept saying it and afterwards. I was dying laughing when I saw the tweet like. We'll come on the show. If you admit a you said Cam ward the entire time I wanNA talk about how you guys even got in with the show in the first place because I think most for me when I listened to you know actors talk about new shows such I like to hear about the auditioning process. I feel like that's something that goes on talked about often so I wanna know what that was like for both you short it was. I auditioned in Charleston on so I flew home see my parents and then went to the production office and I was there like all day and Jonas only aside and he's basically hey so we don't want to say no so we're GONNA do this. All different types of ways can't say now and that's when it was like I was like Oh okay after that it was basically like I really connected with Jonas and his daughter Lila Who is dead body and sewer and then after that I like I flew back to La and he called me. He is like what the Fuck Are you. Why aren't you here? We need to hear so often immediately flew back a packed up all my stuff and it was pretty much like you know signed sealed delivered and so but because it happened so fast as I'm GonNa get fired like this is not real like they've got wrong girl for surly they don't. I think it really is us but never got fired. And so that was that was my process. It was definitely the shortest fastest Additional Process I've ever been through. Never mind I so. I got the audition for John. B February like mid February. And when it comes through as an actor you get an email and it's the character name with the supposed be like enemy gives you a little break gun show and then that's pretty much it and the first time I got the audition it was the most land eamonn ever got a four friends on a treasure hunt. Nepal's John be like now. I don't want to touch a piece of iconic cinema and destroy. It adds my worst nightmares. Doing a bad reboot so I was like no not doing as he pushed me to do it so I said no and then you know obviously in. La It's expensive and you know. Money goes quick so quickly after that I was on the role of topper in through and I was like. I don't even care at this point. At least I'm not one of the main kids in the show. I can be like the stereotypical asshole on the outskirts. So I read for and It was like a really shitty a it was a lot going on and I got parking ticket as I was at the audition. Forgotten my lines like apologize. The massacre before eight read on the walked out of there. Oh Okay I'm for sure. GonNa get Miami Florida. And the casting enact community in southeast is very small so the casting director who actually put me. Matt I really unique and one soon. Vh1 series called the Humvee bus which are up on. She called me and was like. Hey I have this project called Outer Banks. And they can't find their guy. Would you be interested in reinforced housing? I don't really want to do it. Because I know goonies reboot and I'm pretty sure butchered every relationship in this show because I just bond auditions topper and she's like I've known Jonas my whole life. We're really good friends. I'll send you the first episode. Read it also materials and this is in April so whatever she sends it and I read a violent. And I'm like Oh my God like this is not the music I screw this up so bad so I immediately called her back and I was like yes. Yeah I I definitely read the that was on Wednesday. So she's a weird eye Friday for interested on. It's GONNA be quick turn because they're really starting to ramp up production so I read and I sent it in that night and Friday came. That didn't hear anything because like kids. Easter week go to Brunch. Drink rush limbaugh says my sorrows away and so I'm sitting at Brunch with a bunch of friends my age. It cost me on a Sunday. And he's like what are you doing her. My Vote Happy Easter for the Lord State in. And he's like are you available on employees and I'm like this is either going to go on a is this is really not cool and some sitting at Brunch with quits long. Keep walking away. Because I'm getting flat Monday Tuesday next week. Whatever he's like tonight ten fifty five and taking a Redeye to Charleston sending nine hundred pages of dialogue. The first four episodes you need to get to the airport now and it's three thirty afternoon. I'm in Pasadena which is nowhere close to lax. And so I just kind of looked at everybody around me. And I'm like I gotta go like Ashley. I'm going to Charleston so I went to the airport. Got On the plane I sat. I'll never forget it. Awesome thirty three very laughter of the plane in the middle on red eye and I was reading the entire night all the way through the airport. My credit card payment had gone through my car and ended overdraft accounts. I couldn't even get an uber from the airport to office so I call my mom and I was like mom. This is really bad. Why now like it's a long story? I am here for like maybe a job. I don't know if I'm GONNA get it. Probably not but like in a barrel under butts and she's like just go do the right thing now. Okay so I went from the airport to the production office walked in house like show on because of everything that Slept literally literally forty eight hours and walking away sitting on the couch. Like my on a hat and was like. Hey I know this is probably the weirdest question ever asked but I read. I walk on my back and like Sore so swapping back and says like I probably should vote for him. But I'm Matt I'm playing Syracuse. Okay at that Moment Josh. Join us in the guys who created the show. They walk out of the conference room and they see this happen gate where we should probably overdoing accounts. You read all right sweet so matty night. That are read everything with Great Jones. Kinda tells me about their idea for the show is like why don't you come back tomorrow? We'll go over the materials. The network will be Wednesday Mike. Okay so at least I have more than four hours dishes so I go back to the hotel or whatever. Come back to the reduction office the next day thinking you know we're just GONNA go over material such as jeans. T shirt like not prepare for anything he walks out surprise doing never test. And I'm like oh I'm not getting this job in other news reading for Giannis like this. Drop Dead Gorgeous Australian Dude who has a beautiful accent? And I'm like I'm done. You can fly like it's been real thanks for climbing out still broke whatever and so i. I got really frustrated at just like everything that happened. So like had a full like a giant mental breakdown and I was sitting in front of the production office. Just kind of freak out and Doing this walk out. And he happened to like Seaney on anything and he was like. This is your job and I was like. I don't understand these like this job to go fucking get it and I was like all right so we went in. We did the reads. All this stuff's rooting I read together. together it's just like kind of this combination of doing different stocks. And so then we we get an uber or relieving. I didn't had like twenty five dollars at this point out so I look back on my he. Give me an Uber. Something that out money. I'm trying to eat dinner. Bats on sorry. Jonas just kind of laughed at me because I had nothing at this point. And so rudy was like I'll I'll go on their own rudy sitting in the front seat. I'm sitting behind Rudy and this other kid reading for John via sitting next to me and I see rudy on his own. We'd live overdrive really. Yeah we're here you know jeopardy taping full of ourselves and Rudy's Goodman really quiet up there and this other kid is asset and content and My phone rings and I didn't recognize number and pick up on my face Jay. Would you got the job to go get Tan like I just panicked so I like shit in the news like to get the job and I was like no no no right and then I see rudy go house knowing my long and rudy and I'd like immediately rains each other and that's where it started now is exactly one year ago today to wow happy anniversary. Mass Jonas sent is some of our first audition and our chemistry reads. And it's funny because This was before we had all been out in the end. Like I. my natural hair colors theory around and so I saw the meals like oh. These are for all the actress. Okay 'cause we Kinda look similar to is. It is like preteen creating like chemically dependent hair. So that was that was exactly. You're which is kind of wild to think about. That is yeah. That's insane and the fact that you were in the car with the other person auditioning for Jambi like kind of crawling out of my skin thinking about that. Getting second hand embarrassment. It was the worst best experience of Allah. Because I just wanted to be on the phone and be like lowing up but I'm just like okay. We that six months after Uber. Yeah Faster Yeah. Yeah no it was it was really surreal and then. I never went back to La. So I didn't get to go home and pack clothes. I had a small suitcase with pair jeans. Shorts and three t shirts and the jacket and that was it so any who's head of our wardrobe department juice. Oh great and she knew about everything because I kind of opened up that they have anything. Choose I just come in. Who Give you some clothes? I showed up to the Netflix like dinner that they do for their new shows as they launch she gazing Charleston County Jail Shirt and so I shall up. I'd had a couple of weeks before it's all year to party number on the and it's like this really. Nice restaurant and they're like like we were. They had us in voting lessons than everything. Which just won't but we had. We went straight from like doing that and swimming lessons just sitting could make sure we weren't lying about her swimming abilities And we showed up from from bear to this dinner. Inches has Charleston County jail shirt on in on Marty like a couple of glasses of wine. The Jonas is like this is emily. She usefully inexact conflicts and I was like Oh God I need to be more sober. Not GonNa work out for me so I proceeded to drink more wine. That's my solution solution. That's honestly the answer 'cause when you feel like you're too drunk. There's nothing you can do at that point. You can't take back Hebron take it back and you just have to keep drinking my contract signs over. House and the point you made up about Brought up about the close so first episode. I saw you wearing do vent shot to our friends. At Du Vin I also worry Austin new started doing is a friend of mine so I grew up in Orlando so meaning Austin overdue even are like buddy buddy and we have a very close relationship. Murphy raid package so could show up in a second. No I didn't even know at the time so I walked into my fitting and they have a budget shirts and I actually even a couple of times show and I immediately do like blood the hell out of your stuff. This is crazy. He's talking about okay. I know most of the time I broke down on my luck but like now. I'm doing a Netflix series. Going to be in it. And he's like what so it's cool like to to come in and do it actually out. Yeah Yeah I see it so club. The Yeah No. It's really cool. To kinda like have this journey with a buddy from Orlando and hats him kind of get a little success off of what he's done in the Basle years this company until I cavit sort of combined into this weird things really cool. Yeah I get excited when I wear stuff from Duval and people are like what? What is that from? I can't get real excited to shout them out. People ask us on the PODCAST. I talked about it. I was like thinking about wearing some of my like dubin stuff now because I'm really feeling this outer banks. Energy had so many people being like. What's the name of the brand now? All those who are checking out which is awesome crazy a staple john staple so perfect to. Yeah I mean we didn't really like I didn't have any idea. What the wardrobe. I've just kind of wanted it to be a little bit out there because you know this character does do a little bit ridiculous shit throughout the entire show so we kinda tried to take pieces that obviously were aged up that you would probably in you just saw on a thrift store like a good loan in like after seeing a dude insured since a thrift store. Time yeah right so it's cool. It is The shirts are awesome. I rea- was wearing one the other day and I was like that Bunn downs. Really Cool it kind of reminds me of John. Beaches like yet Stephen. He wears during so like okay. Maybe this is starting to get kind of weird. I had it before the show. So I Madeleine you said that you guys were in like boating lessons and swimming south like you guys do pretty crazy things throughout the show and I know more for the boys to with all the fight scenes like reunite joke that there isn't a fight scene that doesn't end with the possibility of someone dying. So how like? How did you guys prepare to learn all those all those things because they're kind of like very extremely the we had an amazing son -partment Shot up to toby and Robin. Wolves like they were they. Were right about making sure we were safe. But it's funny like everything about the show just like it Process was kind of just like foreshadowing. How the rest of the show would be issues. Like we're GONNA throw this at you and make it were And so we. We had voting lessons that we had swimming lessons. And that was all fine in for obviously had reversal. Kind of like the Anti choreograph in every day But what's really all about? You know our sun heart. They were so good about making sure. Everything was choreographing. A lot of the shots in the fight scenes are actually US doing choreography. I mean we try. We try to prepare. I think a few times I think rudy Drew got clocks h other tiny as Newsday. Somebody had to accidentally get punched at least once Wine I think it was was at the movie one time. I think like he drew went a little too. Hard actually did get really a little bit and there was exp- it kind of flu and you could just hear all our camera operator sitting right behind bogue because on the days I didn't work. I might the Super Camera. Nuruddin directing the future. So I was on so I'm like literally this from Bos- back and he's like doings cameras to really sell the punches and then one of them's like your own Using that shot might not but like. Yeah that's the most legitimate show. It's souls day to we were sneaking around so we weren't honest that obviously 'cause it was votes in the twos like kind of going at it and so we were like why don't we go set dress up as background and try to sneak around and get shot for as long as possible without being recognized and we think we're there for like two and a half three hours like just running. We were rating the many at the country club so we got almost literally two feet in front of the camera in jade turns around and then we look like they had. They had their spidey senses early. The y'all we met Sutton For the shot had to get everybody else in. I felt I felt really bad. Because they didn't have our like our core camera operators so they were like socrates kid late. What what do you do? You aren't a bunch of extra time. I feel like that's the best though because you know being serious all the time onset. Nobody's going to have a good time doing that. But having the chemistry that it seems like you all have is amazing. It seems like you guys are also close right. Yeah it's pretty strange how quick we clicked and Tonko Sir but we all moved into the same apartment complex routing. I've lived together in the same place the entire time. In every weekend we were just all at mining rubies place and it was just yeah. There's so much to do in Charleston. There's so many great restaurants ours. You know little clubs that we would go out to so we just. It was almost like summer camp tour. You're forced to this little thing. And then it's Netflix. Is going to sponsor it and we. Let's just have the best time ever so while you're working on this show which scripted so good in it so funding itself do with people that you actually enjoy being around. It just made made for like this instant long-term family friendship that you have that's translated outside the show too. Yeah for Easter. Jd's mom cooked assault dinner and brought it over to our place pointing together and we did that. And then we've gone over their mobile for dinner just sitting around the table with his family. So it's just really cool to kind of have this experience in. Bro In that weird bubble of Charleston for the first season. We're like we didn't really know we knew. We had a really cool project but with Netflix. And how our them works for like it could not work like it could just all under the radar. Nobody ever see it. So we're like let's just take this experience enrollment at a good time and we'll always look back and say this was a lot of fun outside of work as well as getting word and I think the big thing for me you know kind of been really surprised by but in the best possible is like when you're on a set especially when you're on location you're working together you're together ally and you might have this friendship but then when you move back home sometimes. I translate Are which is totally fine. But it's so it's interesting because with this cast in particular we came back lane. It's just like we just like uprooted every all the debauchery anxious Matt Planted BACK IN LA like nothing. Change which is really cool. Because it's like I think we all have a really great core group of friends. We also have the showing off into so it's like the friendship because It's great because I think it comes through on the shell like at a you can tell when people have real chemistry like yes. You are playing friends but when there is that friendship in real life I think it's so transparent so easy to see you talked about. The you mentioned the Netflix. Obviously the algorithm people could have watched people couldn't watch it. When when was the moment you guys realized like okay people are actually really watching this show in really loving? I think the trailer was the first notification that we were honest. Something because I don't know if I would say this but on state anyways so netflix. Our marketing team was like okay. You know if the trailer gets you know half made us twenty four hours than we'll know where on something and so we kinda got that information and then the next day when the trailer came out we had hit over a million views in the first four hours so we were like. Yeah okay. Let people actually dig this and the worst part about it was Netflix? Does this like what to watch video that they released the beginning of the month to show you. But the HUGH DISLIKE CONSISTENT ELEVATOR. Themed Music Going undertone on all of the shows for the same thing the entire time so it was this weird elevator. Music of my friends on a boat by tackling each other it looked. Ibm cheesy. We all just like all right. Well and people were literally in the comments. Just we'll shit like God. Yeah all. Trolling was added. The trailer came out and now it really well and then people sort of started to aggressively dig into the show and be like. Oh my gosh. This seems really sick. Yeah in an early reviews came out on the day before the show came out and I got dragged. There were like ages. Took this Abercrombie looking kid not show and whatever one of my really good friends lead and Ryan. Murphy's enough Hollywood and he and I would high school together back in Florida. And he's got the whole Eric Broadway successes multiple Tony. Nominations Grammy nominated and he gave me the biggest pep talk. Just let it ride like my first reviews when I was on Broadway where he sucks. His voice doesn't have emotion tied to it and five months later on nominated for a ton so I was like okay. That's good but still you know subconsciously. Reading these use your it just exploded like there was no Strange time land. Everything should hit the fan. Like zero to sixty immediately had social media got super weird. Really quick that I think when we got to La. I'd like three thousand followers in the show's been out for a little over seven days now in my closing the night in my brand yet doesn't especially especially right now during orientation to like. I mean obviously the show is on social media. It's it's crazy Crazy right now but I think because we're kind of just all hunkered down. It doesn't feel like anything changed. Your if feels it's right from this last night. It's like it's like when you have a birthday in the next day. Someone's having feel. I don't feel you haven't had that like outside moment. Where people write their light job. Did we love you and two is insane? That's a ways that they work so I was walking to in my conflicts that we have a little area where you can take on stuff and so is going to pick it up and back to my hands and schlumpy compromise saving zagged through buildings and then go back up to minds. Didn't you follow and then I was Because we're quarantining matty's withdrew rudy and Lane and so we were like I was out front is when my buddies was coming by to get lost on me and so we were talking just offering the building and I go through my hands young because I tried to respond to people every now and again just stupid shit back and forth and I look in Tara. Reid had message me from American Pie and all those movies too. She's like. Hey I saw you in your Blue Hoodie in Hollywood like so excited what Terry. And so that was kind of weird and rick slips out the big one for me. Rick Flair the nature. Roy Yeah that just so. I sent him a video yesterday so ric flair and that's insane. I mean I was GonNa ask you feel like you described it just like the overnight success especially with the Internet. I mean we see it all the time like just rolls are out of control and also seeing all the people who like just become obsessed with you at the same time. How do you guys separate those two in your brand because this is something that's new to you guys dealing with haight verse love and you have to drown out the hate? It's so funny because sometimes we'll just go on like we're not in the beginning like where people are driving the show chase now gone and just kind of troll back at people Because I think sometimes we. We can't shut up. Yeah because there are a lot of people that we're we're sitting on it because it wasn't shot in Outer Banks which obviously we have a very valid reason for not doing Because the bathroom. Bill but Back but rose going with this trolls. Joel's your anyway with the biggest like after. It's funny because the people of the some of the people who were like trolling on us after the trailer came out after the show came out with. Come back to me late. I take it back like shows actually really fucking cool. It like people with you know some people that come to my page may be like we passive aggressive comments like why wasn't a shot in North Carolina. Like if you're GONNA come to my page I'm going to educate you And so it's interesting because the amount of people that will like the passive aggressive comments versus the people that support the reasons. We have for doing what we did is exponentially higher so it's like it's been overwhelmingly positive in so. I think because of that it's easier to keep her mouth shut just because people have been so supported but it's so hard because sometimes you get that one negative comment in you really want for every twelve good comments again. You see one should have him so socks in the AD. I'm GonNa just moving right around. We talked about it all the time where we always like right back me in comments and then we just screen shot it and send it to each other. But don't actually click. Send this once you click send. There's there's no coming back from it. And now they think they want and also the same people who will hate on. You are also the same people if they see you out there. He's like Oh my God. Can I get a picture you just need to remember? They just want the attention this rant. It's a lot of it has to do with cloud got engaged in certain things that I mentioned aims. WanNa give him the time of day but like you engage in certain things and you realize afterwards it's like Oh okay. This is totally. Because you realized that you can gain some sort of engine for your own personal brand. And I've just given you that allegation sir. I'm learning progressively as going that. Sometimes it's totally fine. We gauge in Santa for yourself. And I think that's something that I'm trying to kind of Trae in especially in art. Degeneration such assholes g the specific images such a narrative that is being driven to the younger generation. So I've talked a lot about. It's totally fine and yourself and not feel like you have to post you know the most glamorous shit that you can find that's totally fine and Sometimes if there's somebody completely rolling you then I only but I'm learning because you know growing up. An athletic unity of like is such a masculine thing to like Standard Brown community. To ask Lenny tone it back a little bit and learn like Hey I don't have to threaten people don't have to act everybody because yeah now the ratio situation it's like it's like a ninety ten percent with the feedback. Which is crazy. It's crazy it's really. It's really encouraging because like when you put something out there it's like you're just kind of taking your heart and your soul and you're just like yeah me please please be nice and you also you created something that you spent months doing and people watch and literally a day like Ria Watch I. She watched so fast. Told me like you have to watch it. I had to cut myself off because I watched six episodes in a day and then I was like I'm just GonNa stay awake for twenty hours like I have to take a break and then I watched four. It was in twenty four hours and then the end it was done like we had finished the whole thing. And it's crazy like being Zaidi ride during. This show was fantastic. It made your heart Tom. In in the best way we had a ton of people ask us what the most like intense emotional scene was for. You guys to film for me It was the scene where I come back to the House and I've just gone and seen Lana and I've found out like the reality of my fathers. You know situation. Yeah Hong expecting my friends to be there because we're always there and then nobody's there and then I do the Viking funeral for my dad. That was a rough day. Because we literally shot at in sequence. So did Lana. So they're having walking through like shit bluff mud in the middle of summer in Charleston. Which is Ruutel smells now in. Its Hoist your shelves everywhere. So I was. I was crying all morning and then I got a little bit of break for lunch. And then they shot sequences of the back with her board and scooter and then they jumped into the evening stuff for the house. And I see my friends and we shoot a lot. Like you've never believed in like a retake type of thing it's like you're gonNA shoot every seat and why we're GonNa push in and then we're going to go into coverage we're GONNA do everything at least like eight or nine times so that we can really get into the grid of it and kind of lose track of actually being so So you know when you're doing a take total you know thirty plus irons and you're just crying entirely for that long lost. I need to sleep for seventeen days. But I've gotta get a five hundred do it again so yeah not from you. It's show the Roth. Yeah I mean especially towards the end Sarah goes through quite a bit so I think I think the way the most distressing scene was the one at the playstation or the s with Sti and then also the tarmac with the tarmac was currently the most exhausting three days for me on side Just because like we have the stuff in the plain words driving plane and she hits her head in you know like in the confrontation outside of the plane with warning John be an ratios up and then she sees someone he murdered by her brother like. Yeah outwit US. My Eyes for the next after the three days. My eyes were swollen for today's strategy of all crying in a class like it was like midsummer in in Charleston and the it was like hundred degrees plice in retirement and tarmac. No The Sun's bouncing off the heat so high emotional in was absolutely exhausting. I mean those are some I think eight nine and ten are my favorite episodes and I really really proudly turn out but I I watched them and I'm like a for ten minutes and it was three days Offsetting like the most exhausting shoot schedule on the shoot and I'm just like she's thank you thank you so much vicks taper of for helping because you can only cry so much in this. Yeah we obviously beat me to go. Why the mid in close up and so you know like when you're being when you're faced with those kinds of scenes it's not when you have such a group of actors. It's not hard to get there because of late taking what's going on nearly holy shit regular like if the motion is real And that'll last. But once you get because we shoot some once you get into the Actually I I'm dehydrated because of all the water in my body and so shaun ought to holly for being like Genius Vicks. Put It on your evolve. You'll you'll cry for the next three hours and that actually worked Yeah speaking of Vicks. Where in one of the later episodes when I meet up with the codes and blood is on my hands and I have been. That was another day. Rows like mushrooms distraught. Shot Scene The police station earlier that day and And so I had like this. It's a Like a stick and you blow into the stick in as the Alabama with yes got meant on. Minnaso- it Kinda like nature is water up but I had it had been left out in the Sun. And so it's like okay. Just giving a quick little shot of it is to be read and I have no tears left again so five days in a row room just crying and upset at the world and so she goes to blow into my eyes. Who was my fault because I cast share and she blew it in my eyes in the medical had melted. The crystal melted shot liquid in my eyes. Oh Mike impre on steroids. I was literally Ott See like a stock because I was completely blinded. Dry Man Rula summers sweating my ass off. Frustrated as all get out concede Jones. Good Raider on my like it was. It was cool that like an accuracy challenges especially in show. You know to go the distance that we did a lot of circumstances like that. Make it Theo. Real I mean. I'm super out of everybody for idiot. Feels Authentic Hersher. Yeah it was well worth it. Everything you guys did it to issue right Obviously we've very much enjoyed it How much input did you guys have in your own? Seen so like you received the script and you read it as it is. Do you guys think you change a lot? That was in it or do you kind of stay the same from the first time you read it to who we didn't. A. ROD OF INVALID. We Day glove improvise moments like for example one of my favorite improvise moments was outside the Crane House and then Sarah goes inside with he and it'd be careful and. Jj pieces improvised like none of that was one of my favorite moments are. Yeah that was great. But I'm GonNa tell you both and yeah so it was cool but the character choices nuances are. Writers are are so cool about tackling. They'd give us the world and are so gifted in our actual writing team so even a lot of although there was written problems a lot of really funds really did but we did have a lot of Yeah I think think that. What's really great is I mean. I was in Charleston with jd really from the beginning and the banter that JJ and hope have is the same on the show as it is in real life if not watered down laid up in our that when you see them kind of go back and forth. That's that's who they are to attune fair so funny together and I think what's great about our writers is that they saw that and they're like let's capitalize on this. Y'All like just keep it going like doesn't matter because the state and each each team just heat going with those two every state is different in. They're coming up with things on the spot. They're incredible And I think what's also really great about the casting processes Lisa Mason Cannon. Shoes amazing draw And Jonas as well like they both have such a great sense of people in character and in the process. They were being specific because they're looking for being a wanted that people had that were near inner characters. So when you have people that kind of have their characters in a little bit they were able to trust us with the script and so we have quite a bit. They died as he has certain out but it was really cool to be a part of a young adult show. Where is pretty flexible? Yeah there was one scene in particular that cut that Rudy in JD at some of the funniest banter in. It's in the twinkie and we're going to the graveyard. Where my grandmother's Berry and there was one bit in particular where Rudy and JD? Going back and forth fully end Bra like this was just a conversation that turned into a Hetero Amazon and it was a conversation about. Who'd winner fight would it be? Clifford the big red dog or Godzilla and it went on what straight and bore cabinets stuck in the I cannot keep my shit yet. It was the funniest thing and then after that split They were like going back and forth. Are you and how they believe the response. Eytan and union tire show and I literally had to look. You are all tears listening to them in me. G are sitting in the stairs at this and they're just back way back for ninety four funded didn't make the cut. I can't wait for the BLUEGRASS too. Kamala just GonNa say now deleted scenes shit. It's it's obnoxious yes I was not it. It's funny too because it would be like three four A. M. N. J. D. End Jaydee Rudy would be going back and forth and it's so funny and they don't stop your aunt ever Worrying I'm you're laughing. You're also crying. Logan traditionally gather like I WANNA go. Yeah please shut the fuck up all the areas dating. I had this inside joke. It was so it was on the porch where late John in Sierra to the phones for the first time and I I was trying to be like Moody. And it's really hard to be Moody New Guy Rudy. Mgd just going back and forth looked over. And I didn't mean have an attitude as you saw. Do you like oh their cameras here. And so now. It's this inside joke between jd in. Iowa just like do you stop debris but yet no. They're they are like two energizer bunnies they're just like. Bb's freight cars. They they just. Yeah you get get to talk to them next week to Patty's we yeah I mean we. There is no way we can talk to them without talking to the other two. So we're we want we want everybody. We want everything I think. The fans want to see. All those videos has obviously left on as much as we also yet and you guys have been great with posting behind the scenes stuff have been really cool to watch. And but I mean the show ended on a major cliffhanger. And if you guys don't get a season to reenact at all will protest I'm GonNa protest and so are the chicks in the office listeners. Because yeah the amount of DM's I have gotten like my God. I watched the show. Because you couldn't stop talking about it and I'm like Netflix. Alot BRAND SEASON. We could just be extras like. We'll be in the drinking. That's all we have. You know. There's a big party scene. Just toss us were great. We'll serve impasse for TV's sixteen could yeah. I'm twenty two. I feel like I can. You're twenty two modern. Us Right I. I'm I'm twenty five and we got an alcohol delivery here the other day at the House and the man looked at me and was like a Ma'am how old are you. I was like I'm twenty five. I swear like I'm not certain. Damages dropping off alcohol for someone. Underage is no. I'm twenty five like out. Can I can show you my ID. But I did want to ask you guys. Yeah I wanted to ask you guys about the end because obviously it's such a cliffhanger but I wanna know like what is your dream scenario for where Sarah Giambi are right now I mean obviously I are for selfish purposes. I want to go to the tropics or the Bahamas I don. I mean I would love to do that by also like I talk about this with Jonathan. We kinda see this lagoon castaway tie you know love story in. Ob Ex world. Which I think would be really really cool to shoe that he even have Sarah and John Bailey Howell. Breathe in this really beautiful Situation Antennas I kind of Hunting Vase. Before all the things that they've been running from catch up to them and then we just go back we we just do a deep dive into the rabbit. Hole again The I would I would love. Yeah there's so many loose ends in the show and it's frustrating but also the most exciting part of it Because like what happens with four like threw him under the bus The cops do they prosecute him. I'M GONNA prosecuted. Like is she going to get prosecuted because besides being framed for murder like stole a cop car? I salted people I have breaking and entering. So you know you lay of the land workout in the circumstance. So I think for me. It's like I wanna see the cultural elements of the end the bombs because there's so many dark secrets of the bond that people don't realize for surface values like Oh. Let's go on a Royal Caribbean cruise and go to their braided in Nassau. Go IS AT SENIOR FROGS. But like what is the reality of the underbelly of displaced? And how quick are we gonNA get consumed by it? Had escape you know by the seat of our again but I think it's exciting because Josh and Jonas are like the master of cliffhangers this sticking our hands on materials I think is going to be exciting Hopefully we ought to go right wrong. I don't think we will have to. Yeah I think you guys got it locked in. Unfortunately we're being told we need to wrap up Netflix IS GONNA get mad at us. Yeah One last question. They're gonNA get mad at me for asking what has be quick but to wrap it up. How do you feel about the? I would die for Giambi movement that the girls at Arsenal sports X. Who is one hundred percent behind it? Either I literally almost pants. When I saw this year I was in the back that it's tied. I I was like you do yeah Listen I I told you. I shopped there before I was like thinking about ideas. What would fit that fit together and listen shots you guys because it helped us. Our bosses were happy. They were like but thank you guys. Were so much for joining us. Everybody go stream outer banks on Netflix. If you haven't already please do it season two. We need you. Thank you James and Madeline so much for joining. You guys were talking to us. Oh till next time. Please Robin Rowdy. You guys will be there. And the problem is all lay. Tuxedo suits with talk. Hats in canes effect effect. Well we'll figure that out pick themed outfits. Thanks guys I all right. 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"Tomorrow night is fight night on ESPN top rank boxing, the main event at junior welterweight battle between thirty, one and two Jose is a paid up and seventeen and one Kendo cast anita. That's coverage tomorrow night eight eastern on ESPN ESPN this and the ESPN. APP and we are approaching the top of the hour retentive nine in the morning eastern time here in. In Bristol Connecticut I Mike Greenberg this, get up on ESPN. Our normal slot today with I take to come your way in its entirety a full two hours coming up at ten o'clock eastern time this morning, and we are very busy. Our conversation will begin with football and fashion, and not necessarily in that order. We're going to get up with Sartorial Splendor Cam. Cam Dressed for success upon his arrival, but our former Patriot says you like what he's GonNa Find, plus we've got the inside scoop on what the playbook looks like for Tampa. You may be surprised by the plane's for Brady's bunch and then happy birthday design on twenty twenty. We'll tell you exactly what the future holds for the Crown Prince of the NBA as. As. We get up with you starting right now. Cam Newton is in foxborough days after agreeing to a one year contract and very is getting out of his car in style as only he can getting set to begin this new tenure with his new team. The possibilities feel endless. The war drove. Choices certainly are to say the least remarkable. Here's Mike Reese. Who covers the Patriot and has been covering them since nineteen ninety-seven? So you've seen so many players in so many press conferences and Cam of course is known for his acute sense of fashion. One should not be reading too much into that I would assume. How can we expect him to fit in with this team? Green here. Here's the way I look at it. We've spent a lot of time over the last week talking about the Onfield fit between Bill Belichick Patriots and Cam Newton. Let's take. It's been fun. Let's take the fun to a different level and asked these questions. What will it look like when you combine bill? Belichick's really and Cam, Newton fashionable wardrobe, and what will it look like when you combine bill? BELICHICK's press conference approach with Cam. Newton's can't wait to find out. In my twenty four years on the Patriots beat. I've sat through at least one thousand press conferences with Bill Belichick Fun Times. In the Super Bowl in the past. You guys haven't scored in the first quarter is five. Sorry to remind you. To someplace better scoring every game, another priority understand. Now. We get Cam Newton to. What a gift for us, patriots reporters. Size fifty fifty. Fifty. How would you assess David covers? injured. Despite his usual press conference flair Newton can be surly like he was after a loss in super bowl fifty. Got Up play. Of course when it comes to press conferences surly is. Natural State Look I get it. Bella chicks news conferences are for everyone. Around US tonight we're on. Cincinnati, we're getting ready for Cincinnati. Question I answered. It I don't know how else I can put. I can't answer that question. Sarava can't connect. But come on, guys now. We've got bill and CAM. Double the fun I think. Score touchdown Oh. There's really nothing higher on my. Story. I can't wait to read it more. Greeny, we're having fun here. Right and I don't have a lot of style. I asked my eight year old son Nathan. I say give me your best hat so I think I might just put this one right on and say what are we got? Nothing says being a Patriot support like wearing eight-year-olds hat. That's very well done. Mike. Stay with me because I want I want to have a little onfield field conversation. We'll bring a guys back in here. I also want everyone to see and all kidding. Aside. The CAM posted another workout video on social media and the message you put an at this time was I'm tired of being humble, and here's some of the video, and obviously he. What can you say guys? He looks phenomenal. If we all looked like that working out, if I looked like that, I wouldn't own shirt so so both put that to the side for the moment, but I'm tired of being humble is a really interesting thing to say because Rodney. You played for that team for a long time. And you understand that his his. You were telling US earlier, his introduction to the Patriots. There might be some humility that goes along with that. I'd love you to explain that for just joining us. Yeah I just don't think that they're going to give Cam the keys to run this thing just right off the bat without coming into that building, earning the respect of his teammates, and showing that he could still play at the level that we have seen him play in the past I mean two thousand fifteen was a long time ago. I was still in the League in two thousand fifteen, and now I play. Plus thirty six men softball so again. I'm just saying that you have to go out there and earn it because the NFL is about what you do tomorrow. Not what you did yesterday, so he's going to have to go into. That building improved to everybody that he still has it that he can still earn that starting spot because his contract reflects him coming in as just a League minimum veteran player. Yes yes, what five hundred and fifty thousand of guaranteed money, but the Patriots have cut second round players before that had guaranteed a million dollars, so I don't. Don't think the contract track necessarily shows that they're going to go in and say he's our number one instantly he's GonNa have to go in there, and maybe have a little humble pie and earned that starting spot, and he hasn't had to go into a position and earn a spot in a long time Mike microscopically. Cookley just WANNA come back to you. Is that your expectation as well that even if invalid mind, he is anticipating him being the starter for week. One that will start whatever it is, they're actually on the field. The Way Nick riches describing. One hundred percent greeny and the one thing that I would add to the video that Cam Newton posted is the remarks. He made right before that comment about that. He's tired being humble. He made reference to that. Everyone was picking these other quarterbacks him. Greenie that to me speaks to his motivation, so they know that he's going to be motivated to have to try to win that job. Though neak I always like talking to you about the psychological piece of this, we all understand that if cam is healthy, he has the physical piece of it. And sort of running over, but how about the psychological piece of it? Benefits him I watched the video and I got hype watching a video when I read quotes I had some similar concerns that rob was saying about being humble in the situation, but I don't think that all about Bill Belichick at all about the quarterbacks in his quarterback room or his team I think he will arrive. Understanding has to work his way up, but is about proven everybody wrong and at the end of the video he started talking about everyone else's antelopes, zebras elephants, but he is the only lie in ease about Roy I know that I can no longer do those things physically than i. once was able to do. Do but CAM. Newton can still do an understand rob that two thousand, fourteen or fifteen was a long time ago, but you Cam Newton Cam Newton is a different type of his body's different. His mind is different. His athleticism is different. His desire is different I'm the video made me excited for Cam Newton noon? It didn't make me worry about him. Being in in the Patriot way, yeah, he also couldn't rob fit into your over thirty six all because he isn't even close to that, he's only thirty one people forget anything sometimes. How Young Cam Newton still is and so the motivation is there. I agree we may. May. Be Talking Neak, not about him being humbled by playing with the second team where the thirteen the humbled piece of this might be an according to almost all of our reporting, no other team in the NFL wanted them, and that I think is where that motivation. We always hear about Aaron Rodgers being angry about being drafted passed on by all these teams nick, maybe cam comes back for one of those scorched earth tours. We're talking about right I mean it was a slap in the face I understand that going into the Patriots building, and maybe not being the number one quarterback on day one could feel like a slap. Slap in the face, but it's not gonNA feel any worse than your phone ringing for months on months on end and watching other quarterbacks including guys like Joe. FLACCO get contracts when you're looking around at these guys who are getting bigger projects, you getting offers and getting calls, even though you know that you are much better than them, so I can understand why he has already been humbled I. Don't think this would. He meets when he gets to the Patriots. It's GonNa hurt. His feelings set setback back anymore. I think he's ready to go out there and beat a killer. He said he that he said that he is. If. Cam Newton is healthy and demonstrates that the fact that we are in an unprecedentedly strange time in the NFL when there were no off-season stuff and we don't know what training camp is going to look like, and they were going to be a maximum of two, and maybe no preseason games. Do you think those make it more or less likely that he wants up to starting quarterback week one? Well. I could see both sides of it, Greenie. The resume to me trumps everything. We're talking about a former most valuable player who played in the super bowl before to me. That's just something that jared stood him in Brian Hoyer the other two quarterbacks just haven't done so to me. You gotta sort of fall back on the resume and the pure talent alone, which is at another level so I think it actually. Actually helps him and one more thing before we let this conversation go. Nicovic microbes has been covering this team long enough that he covered you as a player. And I am told that there is a photo that we need to show everybody, who are the question is who Dominika let you chime in who wore it better as we see the the fashionable hat? Eveque shop if you will from Nicovic, cheer, who wore it better. I think it goes without question. I Mike Reese needs to put on. His baby had again, and it goes without question. They work better. Obviously. Cam Ward better. Ham Wears everything better. That's Cam Newton. Leave the head on recently. I'm enjoying our streets. Look like like Jimmy Olsen. What do you think they give us? What was? What were you wearing here? So the differences I I only own one hat like that. I'm sure has a closet full of hats like that so I give the Cam I would say that the my beard wins. That's all of the beard is better, but the had itself I. Think Cam, probably this is why if selection of has this completely makes it clear why cam war better because you're explaining it in a way, you're not leaning in with confidence. You don't believe in your. Believes one half. One half one hat. That's it. Let me just say this. When I asked to or at better, it was a rhetorical question. Well. Thank you very much Mike Reese. I love the hat in fact from now on I'd like to request it. Here. As we go on to a wanted to different subject. A source told our Adam schefter that the Washington redskins are likely to change their name. After the team announced Friday, it will undergo thorough review of the nickname amid renewed pressure. The new head coach in Washington is Ron Rivera says he's talked with the owner Dan Snyder about new team nicknames in recent weeks on the quarterback Dwayne Haskins as weighed in as well on twitter, replying to some name, suggestions by tweeting I liked to. To read tales, which would be an Omar's to Tuskegee airmen, and he then tweeted a few minutes later. That's if we have to change the name. Now out of my mentions so I. Bring my insider here. Jeff Darlington back into the conversation and I. See that there's a lot of economic pressure that is be involved here from Nike from Fedex and from other places. How do we expect to play out here? Reasonably Quickly Jeff? Is your money not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze you're spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money you deserve ally. visit a wide dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member FDIC. Is your money, not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze you're spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money. You deserve an ally. Visit A. L. L. Y. dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member FDIC. Whoa what's interesting greenies? You just mentioned Fedex. Frederick Smith CEO is also a minority partner with the team. He and two others, also a forty percent stake in the redskins along with Dan Snyder, the, Washington Post and others now reporting that those three are unhappy, unhappy with their relationship, Snyder and are seeking potential sale of the organization now what could change in the next month? I mean what an a fascinating crossroads the Dan Snyder finds himself as not only. Only on the field as he tries to transition from Bruce Allin to one of the more popular figures in football and Ron Rivera, but also off the field as is minority, partners seek a potential sale if he could change the name of the organization, certainly, that seemingly would go far away in terms of social justice, whether it's enough to also remedy the other issues involved with these partners will have to wait and see Ron Rivera though I should. Should. I cannot overstate this enough Ron. Rivera is a wonderfully popular person in the NFL, he is the type of guy that potentially if Dan, Snyder can lean on him. There could fix things not only on the field, but also off the field for this organization nitrous clung to this namely those of us who've following fears have seen it. He has been quoted at different times as saying I will never change the name now. I think the perception amount. Amount of what happens is going to be that. He was forced to do it that he was dragged along into it kicking and screaming. If you will so, how do you expect that to play out I, mean the league will get involved in this thing here if you were to look at this thing and guests. Do you think that if there was a kickoff to the NFL season the second week of September? They will have a different name. I think they will, but to your point I think you're also exactly right. Look. In two thousand thirteen Dan Snyder penned a letter to fans that made it very clear how he felt about the name I don't necessarily see that perception changing for Dan Snyder but to your point when Nike when Fedex when you're minority owners when your head coach all come at you and basically say it's time to change the name. It's time to change the name. It feels like it's. It's no question. It's moving in that direction and quickly all right. Jeff. Stay close by because we have more football to go as we continue, we have the inside scoop on what the playoff a me on what the playbook looks like for Tampa Tom. You may be surprised by the plans for Brady's bunch, and you'll see them and then happy birthday design. He's twenty. We will tell you exactly what the future holds for the Crown Prince of the NBA as we continue. On ESPN. Back on, let's get up and go through some headlines, and they include two more NBA teams, shutting down their practice facilities. The Bucks and the Kings decided to close after receiving results from recent corona virus tests neither plans on reopening before they leave for Orlando later this week. We're going live into the bubble in just fifteen minutes here on ESPN. Meanwhile or HEY MAZDA DAHLAN KAMARA WHO's mon- both agreed to terms to compete in the new main event UFC, two, fifty, one and Abu Dhabi next Saturday Mas Vidal, stepping in for Gilbert Burns who was forced to withdraw on Friday night. Baseball Yankees manager Aaron Boone says they dodged. A bullet is words after Masahiro Tanaka was hit in the head by one hundred and twelve mile an hour line. Drive off the Bat Giancarlo Stanton Tanaka. Diagnosed with a mild concussion was back a Yankee stadium yesterday. Clearly, that could have been much worse. The NBA making preparations for teams to begin arriving in Orlando the bubble starting tomorrow. The Nets Garrett temple is vice president for the Players Association. He'll be making the trip, but says he doesn't expect it to be a comfortable experience for players. It's no way to be comfortable when you think about. How far are you? Where are you going to be for the amount of time? You're going to be there and the restrictions that you have there. We will have to adapt and. WE'RE GONNA GET TIRED OF But in no way shape or form will will anybody honestly be comfortable whether it be on the corner off the court during leisure, time and not. Andrews joins us from inside. The bobble in jail is back with us here, Emily. Let's start with you. Use spoke with Garrett temple high. Let's talk a little bit more about his feelings, and those of maybe others you've talked to who are approaching this with some trepidation. Yeah I mean. When I spoke to Garrett temple on Sunday, he told me that a nervous anxiousness sums up how he's feeling about going into the bubble, and that's just because he wants to see what it's like. There is so much unknown here for these players Green and he did say that he thought very briefly about potentially not playing, but ultimately decided both from a basketball, just career standpoint, and then also from a magnifying social justice issues going on in the country standpoint, the best decision for him was to go to Orlando and play, but he was very clear. He didn't want conflict that confidence. Confidence in his decision to go to Orlando with some sort of comfort in being in the bubble, and this is very similar to what we heard Jj. Rettig say the other day just about he's competent in his decision to play, but also there is so much going on from a health standpoint from a social justice standpoint, an election coming up the he just doesn't feel a sense of calm heading into the bubble, J. will for the players that you have talking to, and obviously of so many relationships around the league. What are you hearing from? Players get set to go down there this week. Exactly that green that Melinda said. People are anxious. There is a lot of unknowns here and look in reality and I know that people say hey. They go their everything their jobs every single day, and they're forced to being that. We are sending. One. Hundred of our top athletes down to a spot that has gone up one hundred and seventy eight percent in the last two weeks in Florida. So you know people are concerned with that and obviously I. think that that changes depending upon what? You heard about my trial I, having his kid, that's obviously in baseball, but all sports. I think you have all these athletes that are trying to way out. You know with all these things with social justice with playing in earning potential. With respective leagues, but also what they're leaving at home. And how do you balance that? I think it's a decision. Everybody, not just athletes people in general are struggling with of course a me. If there's one question that I feel like I get a lot just from people. In the street, or whatever it might be is what is life like in the bubble? What is going to be like for these places where you can actually answer that you are in the bubble? Can you give us a sense of what it is like for you right now? So I've been in the bubble officially since Thursday, in Orlando, since last Monday, and now that I have registered seven negative corona virus tests I've been tested every day. My quarantine is supposed to be lifted a little bit later today, and essentially what it's been like for me the last couple of days since I've actually gotten to the bubble campus is I. Haven't left my hotel room. Save for the one time of day. I get to go and get tested, so my meals actually delivered to my door every day at eight am noon and six PM. Someone knocks on the door. Wait a couple of seconds to open it so everything is hands-free contact free and that's how I get my. My food every day, and so I've been wearing this green bracelet since I got officially into the bubble and today now that my Corentin is scheduled to be lifted I will trade in that bracelet for an aura ring, which is the ring that detects early symptoms of Corona virus that players are also going to be wearing, and I will also get a device that beeps, if I get within six feet of another person in the bubble to maintain that social distance so so far I really been confined to the room, but it's been an interesting experience, and is that similar to the experience? The players are going to have when they get there. They have that similar quarantine to begin. Yeah! That's exactly what players are going to go through now because I flew commercially Mike Quarantine lasted for a total of a week. There quarantine will last two days while they register to negative tests, but yes, they will also be subject to room quarantine. Their meals will also be delivered to their door in a similar fashion they will also be given all the same gear that detects early symptoms. Symptoms so it's very similar to what players are going to be going through and just a couple of days, and so j world, the expectations are players are going to adhere to this closely as Maliki is and many will. Would you expect all of the play? Look if this thing is going to work, it is GonNa require everyone being on board with it. Would you expect that from the players? I would hope so, but I also would say this play devil's advocate. Your personal data Greenie is the biggest currency there is on this planet, so by wearing or a ring I hear what the overall concept is, and it does work, but you're also relinquishing all that data to teams and to the NBA. Ultimately that's GONNA. Be a major question that we're gonNA. Have to talk about down line. How could this ultimately affect contracts a? Of contracts, there's a deeper dive here. That's going to be significant conversation as it relates to data in these rings that the NBA is going to collect over the span of time at. They're going to be in the bubble. This might be a new thing as well. Yes, I've read about that at and clearly that's something an issue that they will have to deal with the players association. We will see, but for the time being. That's what we're doing Melita so great. Thank you. Let's do this regularly because I think. Fans are fascinated to hear what it is likely of that bubble, and then obviously the players will get. We'll see outstanding work is thank you both very much. Let me take a break here. When we come back to football Dez Bryant, says tyreek. Hill is the second best player in the League. Rob Fitch has a serious disagreement. That's where the conversation begins next. Get up! On ESPN. We're just getting started. What will be a busy full day of sports coverage here on ESPN we're with you for the next half hour on, get up and then I take. is comes your way for two hours, then sports, center, and the jump you see the four o'clock hour there. Jalen and Jacoby highly questionable, and around the Horn sportscenter comes you wait five. The PTA guys jump in at five thirty. Thirty Eastern, and cap it off with another sportscenter eleven eastern tonight, and with that thought in mind, we approach the bottom of the hour nine thirty, a. m.. Eastern time on Mike Greenberg were Bristol today this, get up on ESPN again. We have a half hour to come your way until I take stars. Today's July sixth, so it's an opportunity for us to say happy. Birthday Zion Williamson. He's twenty twenty. I own clothing older than Zion Williamson. Where we've been looking at some of his great moments here in honor of his birthday, and here from NBA. This was his sort of coming out party. In some relief, just ripping the ball away, Jay will from Kevin. Knox how about that. I mean. He looks like Anthony. Mason out there greeny. That's a strength that he has. It just shows you the difference between Williamson and a lot of the players in the league. He's built exactly like Anthony Mason, but he has the athleticism of a guard. It is remarkable. Meanwhile here was his NBA debut, January twenty second racing all doubts scoring seventeen consecutive points in the fourth quarter, including knocking down threes, J. Will. That night was magic. Bringing in, he showed his ability to shoot from the outside, and that's always been the biggest question around I on his touch and his forum on that set shot, but if he's making shots like that, you can forget about this guy that can average over twenty points, and over fifteen rebounds every single night, and it probably shoot over sixty percent from the field I, will disagree with you slightly because to me. The biggest question about him has actually been about his. His ability to stay healthy, and so the most important part about that moment we just showed you was that it was his NBA debut and the little date, and the top right of your screen, said January twenty second, the question Jay will is what are we going to see from Zion over the next month? If he comes back, the Pelicans have a lot to play for if they decide to make this important. What do you expect to see from Zion? Zion, the bees I on a look. This kid is different, and I also expect David Griffin. Who is the GM and also Alvin? Gentry the head coach of the New Orleans Pelicans to monitor his minutes to a degree. The this is going to be a series of simple flows Zion, and it's going to be this way until he's able to sustain being healthy for a long period of time. Greenie, it has to be in the back of your mind. You're always going to be conscious of. Of the minute said he's playing especially when you play eight games and fifteen days now you're gonNA. Make a push for the playoffs, but you still have to monitor that so some games he might play over forty minutes depending upon how good he builds in a game. If a back to back, you might have to give him a little bit rest considering that you might have a game a day later, so look I. Think you're take. Take your foot off the gas for a second. If you're out injury and then put your foot on the gas. You have to be willing to change it up. Shift Gears Ziya Williams, and all the time you know it's funny for all of us. WHO WATCHED LAST DANCE? We were all reminded of when this happened. With Michael I mean when Jordan came back from the foot, I've into the driver of the circumstances were different, but when Jordan came back from the foot, and they were limiting his minutes, and it made him crazy, but he managed to play those minutes, and he got this team his team then into the playoffs. 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For Bundling made easy go to GEICO DOT COM today. I was GONNA say one thing. Not Jordan was six six. Yeah. I, mean what two hundred and ten pound or yeah. You're talking about a guy. That's you know to forty to fifty. Over that, so, Anne six six, so in his game that breakfasts abandoned is meant for attacking the Ram, so it increases his chances percentage of having those kind of issues so different style of game hundred, so that I will go back to something. You said an hour ago when we were talking about him again. His twentieth birthday and that is I. Agree with you. He's been better than I expected I. We knew he'd. He'd be a good player coming into the NBA what he showed on the floor, and the time that he did it I fully grant was better than I was expecting. He projects to be a spectacular player. What's the upside for this guy? If this guy is able to stay healthy if he is able to play something in the neighborhood of seventy games a season, you know full minutes and has a full career. At his best, what is he? Is He capable of being one of two or three best players in the League? I think he has a shot at it I. Mean I know if he's able to stay healthy. He's a hall of Famer, even if he doesn't stay healthy in his minutes get limited somewhat throughout the course of his career. He's going to pull up hall of fame numbers just off this year. Effort that he plays with every single night combined with his ability, and that's the saying that his game stay stagnant. His game continues to improve. It could definitely be one of the best player in the league, as it relates to championship, Greenie, which ultimately we like to compare to greatness that's going to be depending upon who has GM. GM is and who is coaches surrounding with the right talent, but I do want to say this. I Ziya Williams's birthday for everything being said Ziya Williamson has had an incredible year, but I don't want people to forget John. Rant is going to be your rookie of the year and he's had a spectacular year as well and it's GonNa be great to see how these two teams battle in Orlando down the stretch who gets eighth-seed incredible to watch a lot of great young talent in the NBA, but clearly the star. The spotlight has been on Zion. He's handled it really well. Twenty years old today. He is a physical. Marvel unlike anything that we've ever seen before, and his prime is probably still five years away, so we will see all right J. will outstanding. Thank you, my friend. Go back to the NFL here. Where over the weekend, former wide receiver, Dez, Bryant posted some very interesting thoughts about tyreek Hill on twitter and he wrote. You can't have these conversations it was. It was part of a bigger. Topic that he was getting into essentially, the most important part of it is at the very end he says I, think he meaning tyree killed is the best player in the league outside of Mahal. Now. We talked about this a little bit earlier in Dominique and Rodney ritual with me here and let let's just put aside the notion that he might be the second best player in the League, is he? Dominique is a person who made your living covering wide receivers. Is he in your opinion, the best wide receiver in the NFL. It's hard to find somebody to. That's better damn I will go. Probably, Julio is a little bit more threatening of a player because he has the size, but Julio doesn't have the quickness that tyreek has and our expe- man that is, that's that breaks defense. That's earlier in the show. It's not football spe- he's fast for a track athlete and that changes everything put on top of it the fact that. That, you can't really press him. He change directions quickly. He's a dangerous guy. treks the ball well all the things that you want to receive the have with the exception of maybe height tyreek. Hill has and you pair them with possibly the best quarterback we've ever seen I know that I lose more sleep. Prepare Tire Hill than any other receiver in the League. Maybe Julio Jones, but that's it. When we make a list of the best receivers in the sport over the last two or three years, it feels like the usual suspects are names like Julio. Jones Odell Beckham De'andre Hopkins tyree kills name does not usually wind up on that list. Has That Dominique been an oversight in your mind, is he? Is He guy who's should be talked about in exactly the same way we talk about? About those guys. I absolutely think so I think he's one of the keys to that. Often they have a lot of talented players which I think he gets overshadowed, but he might quite possibly even including, would they haven't Kelsey? He might be the most unique player because that ability to get off a press coverage, and then also outrun the defenders. It's something that requires the attention to defensive. Defensive backs and that opens up a lot of other things for other guys, and it's not just that he's a deep threat. You can get him the ball on reverse. You can get them on a quick screen and he might take back to the crib. He's a dangerous dangerous player that I think when you are sitting in your meeting room preparing to stop the chiefs that might be. Be The first player that I'm looking at trying to figure out how to how to slow down and take that deep credibility away from that often rob. Thank of if you were starting a team. Having played defense in the NFL all those years. If you were starting team could pick any one wide receiver to be your lead guy on your team current player. Which would you take? Going Julio Jones and that's because look the guy six three and he's fast and talk about longevity. How Long Tyreek Hill play at a high level if he loses a step I remember back to the Super Bowl this catch on the sideline I was literally standing right there and I thought it was overthrown the last game. I played it and I thought man. This game because of this catch puts them in field goal position. We all know what happens next. They throw the ball twice to get sacked after put it back to us, but just. that. He's able to make with his size as you get older in the NFL. You're not going to be as fast as you were when you were in your mid twenties. That's just not going to happen so a guy that can play ten plus years that at six three can go up and get. The ball runs great routes I'm going Julio Jones I love Tyreek I think he's a game changer and he is very fast, but with the size if he loses a step I, I don't think it's A. It's a problem when you have a guy. That's not six three so again. Need your job was to cover these guys if we were to sort of define them. Say tyreek. Hill is defined by his speed. Odell is defined by his hands. Julio is defined by his size and athleticism. Deandre Hopkins is kind of a little bit of all of them, which is the most difficult thing to deal with from a quarterback's perspective when the guy has that one ability? I think it's probably the speed I think. The speed is the most difficult thing because if you can. If you feel comfortable enough with your speed versus the receiver speed, you feel fine sitting all routes. You can't sit on any route. That tyreek hill is going to run. You can take your chances if you want. Try To stop a third down out or around crossing route, but that might he might run past you and you won't. Won't be able to catch. These guys are very good and very talented fast in their own right, but I think there are plenty of corners that feel comfortable with getting aggressive in in short yardage situations third down situations. Nobody does that tyreek Hill you see people getting up the press tyreek Hill. It's either Jalen Ramsey or you got safe the overtop. No one is getting up there. I know you can't see it in a TV. TV copy, but when you go, watch the coaches film, nobody getting up and tyreek hill, no tire hills face. Nobody is sitting on Tyreek Hill on third down in less than safety is rolling over the top, and that is terrifying. Understand what rob saying. If he loses a step, then maybe he'll be the second fastest person in the league. He's still gonNA be blazing eye. Shame on me. I left. Michael Thomas out of the conversation every. Every thought of him when I was doing that the top of my head Michael Thomas, who last year had one of the great receiving seasons in the history of the Sport Niche, which which guy keeps you guys worried all week long when when you and your defensive coordinators together and your meetings all week long and you're getting ready for the game on Sunday. Which guy is it? That makes you the most nervous all week long. You'd have to go with the guy that could. At any point in the game score touchdown, you gotta go with tyreek in that situation when you could just run, go route, and your quarterback just stole it up. Underneath it and catch that thing so when you have a guy, that's that fast. It lets everybody else in the intermediate routes like your. Travis Kelsey because he's one on one with with a linebacker. And you have your safeties worried about somebody stretching the field. So that's what makes Kansas. City's offense worked so well. They have a receiver that can stretch vertically all the defensive coverage. Yes, they have a quarterback that can throw it to at any moment i. think we might be having a different conversation if tyreek hill wasn't in Kansas City and had a guy who can throw it sixty yards across his body, because there's also situations where you'll cut receiver loose because you know the. The quarterback can throw that far. You don't have that situation in Kansas. City I've been saying for years that if I would have picked one guy, it would be De'andre Hopkins, and now he finds himself when he had to sean healthy. Their numbers were spectacular. Watch what deandre hopkins does this year in Arizona, sneaky pick to have one of the best seasons in the NFL meanwhile one of the best moments of the weekend. One of the best moments you've seen in a long time, always love these steelers running back. James Connor surprising his mom Kelly bibs with a new house. Connors brothers helped pull off the surprise. He also surprised his dad with a new truck last month dominique. Thoughts on an awesome I always love seeing this. I never get tired of it. I was fortunate when I signed my deal with Baltimore. I I was in a position where I could buy a new house for my parents, and and then subsequently by cars right now they're waiting for their Peleton come on back order so I. Love being able to treat my parents. They did a great job taking care of me, so it feels great to see other people be able to do it and I. IT feels great to continue to be able to do it. I got three kids, so they better get to work. Somebody better. Take care of me. Negative edge that experience? Dhamma huge James Connor. Fan. I think it's awesome. The guys and they can give back to their parents. I gave. My Daddy used truck modem on my trucks. That was nice. A Nice gift helped out with some landscaping. I think that was very nice of me. Wasn't in the position of buy a home I mean I played for the Patriots so this down involved there so. It's not to. Keep working now now. So again I think it's awesome. I love the guys. You work really hard to put yourself in a position to give back to your your parents. You wouldn't be in the position that you're at if it wasn't for your parents, so you know my mom's house right now. Well, Hey, Ma. She's up there making some breakfast for me. Very good, they have it. Self I was never anything more than a financial liability to my family when I was that age. I never had that particular experience all right as we continue in a moment if Tom. Brady is going to win. A seven title is GonNa have to do with a new offense and a new coach. We now know what the offense is GonNa look like you'll hear it next. We are back on. Get up and in V move of the NFL off-season. Tom Brady left New England joined the Tampa. Bay, buccaneers and play for that man Bruce Arians the sixth time Super Bowl champion, joining a team that's one just one championship in its franchise history, and the pairing of the forty three year old Brady and Bruce Arians will be interesting to follow and Brady may have to change approach playing under areas. WHO WAS ONCE QUARTER? Saying no risk it. No Biscuit. Brady is not one who risks it much and doesn't air it out a lot. He ranked twenty six in. Per Pass attempt last season, Arians quarterbacks of generally finished among the league leaders again to be clear. He likes to throw it down the field. That's not necessarily been Brady's forte lately general. Lane covers the buccaneers for us. China, what are you hearing about? How the bucks and Brady May fit together? Greenie we talk about collaboration so much with Arians and Brady and there's there's two ways that they really can do this. One is in the play calling right. Now Brady. He likes those three step drops right and we know Bruce. Arians is all about taking those five and seven step drops, but what I'm hearing is that there's going to be more of those three step drops. There's going to be more elements that are going to be taken from what they're doing in New England that are going to be incorporated into this offense, because that's really where Brady's comfort level is I'm. I'm also hearing that they're going to be getting. The tight end involved a lot more in doing so vertically, but then you're also going to see the marriage between the to really take off when it comes to gain planning before games on Friday in those meetings. If there is a play that Brady doesn't like, and this is the same with all of areas as quarterbacks if he does not like a play, they. They will. It'll be vetoed if he likes doesn't like a play on first down. It's out of there and so the quarterback has a very active role in gain planning in this, not just in play calling Bruce Arians Byron left, which say they designed plays quarterback in mind, but it's also about what's the plays that are actually being called as well. It's all about his comfort. Level areas has been traditionally a coach. Coach that quarterbacks love Byron left which the offensive coordinator is a former quarterback and he's definitely viewed I think is someone who is rising in the profession which leads the question. What input does Tom Brady have as far as I think a lot of us look at it, and said Oh brady just bring whatever he wants offensively anywhere he goes. What do you think it actually looks like as far as the collaboration? Well, it won't be that because this is a team that doesn't have a full off season together. Because of covid nineteen, it's going to be much easier to teach one player, a new system versus an entire roster, but with that being said Byron Left, which understands his job. He views this. Ship and these two have spent a lot of time talking a lot of time together. Even though it's virtually, they have spent a lot of time together talking about ideas. They played in the same area. One thing that I think will really help Brady is the fact that not only has left, which played quarterback in this system under areas. He's also played in three other systems, so he knows what. What it's like to step into a new offense for the first time to do it as a veteran, so we can act as a translator. It's a copycat league. There's only so many offenses that have been created, and they're often variations of other ones, so we can act as a translator when it comes to the learning phase of all this, but also you're looking at a coach and a quarterback. The quarterback understands very much. What's happening with the quarterback emotionally the night before games? He's going to be checking in with him to see. How are you feeling? Are you comfortable with what's being run here they will very much be on the same page on on Game Day. Well done gentlemen. Thank you very much. Let me bring you guys back in here. Nique and rob, Ninkovic of course. Course you played with Tom and all of that and now Byron is a guy that most of us. No one have known for why Guy I. Think is projecting to be a head coach at some point in the NFL. How do you expect Rob Nicovic this marriage to work out with Brady going down there with as little official preparation time as they will have based upon the circumstances. Well I can tell you this. They're not going to be my way or the highway type attitudes. You can't work that way, so they have to be able to come together. Agree on what they want to run. It's going to be a back and forth. You Have Tom Brady who played twenty years in the NFL. You trust him to go out there on the field in put your offense in the best possible play. With what the defense gives you and if you're Bruce Arians, Byron left which you give Tom Brady to plays, and he doesn't want to run. Those plays does defense looks like they're weak in one area and he wants to run a differ. Play you. Let Tom Brady changed the offense and make run a play that he thinks is best to win the football game. I think there's going to be trust there. He's earned it through his twenty year career and the things he's been able to do, and I think that, Bruce. Arians gotta give him the freedom to do that. He doesn't seem like the type of guy that's. That's saying. It's my way. It's my. My offense is the way we're going to run it. You'RE GONNA. Let Tom Brady. Go out there and do things that he does best. And that's win and manage the game appropriately to put the team in the best position to win, not only that but dominique last week on this show Marcus Spears said, putting Tom Brady in a position where he's going to get hit. A lot is a fireable offense, and generally speaking I know it's an oversimplification, but it makes sense. Three staff drops. You get hit a lot less than you do. When that guy's dropping seven steps and looking to throw the ball down the field, but they're not really built for that. That understand that they have some playmakers, which seems better than what he had in new. England but they did have the type of guys that have three step drop offense would be would would work for so like Evans and God winner kind of deep down the field guys. They both had a thousand yards last year. Because their quarterback, Jameis Winston was willing to stand in the pocket. Get hit and also willing to take chances and throw up some fifty fifty balls on occasion. That's not Tom Brady, so they're everyone's GonNa. Have to get used to each other, and I'm not sure that Tom Brady is. I'm not sure that they what Tom Brady I'm. I'm absolutely sure that Tom. Brady is going to get hit more to this season than he has in the past because I think some of those deeper five to seven step drops is was best for the playmakers. They have on this often, so they're going to have to risk it if they plan on getting deep into the playoffs, yeah, I know that no risk it, no biscuit thing, but we always associate brady first of all with the tight ends down the middle of the field. He's got those and then with the the the little slot receiver. You know whether it's your. Wes Welker your Julian his Godwin. A Guy who can be that Guy Dominique. Well he doesn't. He doesn't look like those guys necessarily for a number of reasons, but he has some quickness I think potentially he can make it work into flat, but that hasn't been primarily focused but I could see Godwin. Being having a better season than Mike Evans this year, and being more integral to the offense than even Mike Evans because my absolutely is not a quick change, Direction Guy, right? That's what I would not putting Evans in that slot at his size. Outstanding Dominic is getting set to do I. Take. That's coming up in just a few minutes here on ESPN. He and Stephen with much more on Cam Newton's arrivals New England I take property our five minutes away right here. On ESPN. Coverage of MLS continues Wednesday with a double header I. Eight PM Eastern Time Orlando City faces. 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"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don la- Greco and welcome to the Monday edition of games conduct. I am down the Greco, of course. Monday rose joined by EJ Radic from NHL now on the NFL network from four pm to six PM eastern time. How are you buddy? I Don I I'd be better. If it didn't disqualify my horse in the derby 'cause they would have had a couple of hundred bucks. But you know, that's the way it goes some some people know thumper other people benefit don't ended up winning a lot of money. No. Apparently, that's not the way it goes. Because it's never happened in the hundred and forty five years of the race. I mean, listen, I'm not gonna pretend to be a horse racing fan. I'm not I didn't see the race. Obviously heard about it. I heard about it because people are over Twitter apoplectic. Where's where's the Bruins black a black blue jackets game because it's getting moved off NBC and all that stuff. But here's the thing. All right because we can kind of relate it to hockey we go through the goaltender interference. And all that. It was at a goal was it was he offside was not. Side was a goaltender appearance. Wasn't. But if that if there was a goaltender Fearance in the game tonight, and it was the first ever in the hundred and forty five years of the event, I think people would be a little nuts. I mean, so I get I get a literally did not have a horse in the race. But explain to me how something can happen for the first time ever. Now, we have a lot more cameras and a lot more technology. And that that's what happens. I mean. I know I can only say this. I mean twenty horse because people were saying, well if this was a raise that Belmont on a Tuesday. This would be would be no question the horse, it'd be taken down but on Tuesday at Belmont. You don't have a twenty four field with it with a hundred and eighty thousand people like screaming from all angles. So it's a different environment. And I would dare say that there's been fouls in every Kentucky Derby race, ever run. That's concluded a field of more than a few. And you know, this was something that you could see, and you know, and I think it impacted the winter the eventual winner of the of the race who was the queued maximum security. He didn't packed at him in a negative way. And he still went on to win the race. So I thought the best horse finished the across the finish line. I did. Impact to other horses, the number one horse and the number eighteen hours. It did not in my view impact the twentieth horse who was named the winner. Right. Yeah. This is you know, there was there was something amiss in the top of the stretch there where they were making the turn the horse did come out a little bit. But again as I say, I mean, it's a it's a crowded field. And these sources are banging into each other all the time. So the students did what they did the people who had the tickets like I did for the seven horse, you know, ripped him up and the people had tickets for the twenty horse are still celebrating probably days later because it's sixty five to one you probably made a little bit of a bundle. Where yourself? We move on. And we've got a lot to get before the one of the quick thing on is that they have now opened up a little bit of a Pandora's box that we know something about that from hockey from the oxide challenges, and from some of the other things that we thought would be oh, it also just once in a while the agreed just play, and as we learned that it it was actually being challenged. Or there were a lot more plays that we're actually off side than we even imagined. Sure. And I would think going forward in the in the future history of the Kentucky Derby, I would imagine. There might be more claims of thousands in the future. So we will see how that plays out down the road with so much to get to even before we get to the playoffs because we get a lot of news. Breaking here, Ken, Holland apparently on the verge becoming the Edmonton Oilers next general manager after obviously moved out with Detroit with the entrance of of Steve is Herman from as. Time of this recording noth- no ink to paper yet. But the reports are that he will be the next general manager of the Oilers. What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, they made him a really good financial offer five years times five million per season. So it's five million dollar offer is the I think in terrific off. Sure, the discussion was that Kenny is going to have as much on Connie as general manager can have within the process. I mean, you're not going to get people say get full on Tommy. Well, if the owner decides you want to do something, I mean, you're you're not doing it. That's just the way that goes. But I'm sure Kenny was promised quite a bit of the ability to to make decisions on on all things with the organization, and you know, as we talked about, I think when we talk about Steve is meant thing coming on. This is another case of allu- Lovro, lower your brother for who was kind of decide for someone else in those particular spots and guys who really still enjoy really having their hands on things than so Kenny how and got offered was a very good offer. And given probably be idea that he's. To be able to do things the way he wants to. He's a western Canadian kiddie inherits the best player in the game are mcdavid or at least the most offensively productive. And he inherits another good player there as well. Leon dry Seidl. So they got a lot of work to do. But you know, somebody obviously Kenny want it to work, and it was a very good financial offer form. So he goes to likely going to go to Edwardson. And you know, we'll see how plays out for him. Yeah. I think it's the right move when you consider who's available, and they certainly were a rudderless ship there for a long time as far as trying to find the right person to direct this franchise. Even though we can question some of the talent and some of the areas, they they have way too much talent the miss the playoffs back to back years the way they did especially not feeding off of going, you know, going to the second round of the playoffs. Just a couple of years ago. They have high end talent certainly something Ryan and dry Seidel. And you know, but the yearly went to the playoffs. I think it was largely on the back of Cam Calvin. I mean, he was so good that you're could've easily been a a vessel Hart trophy winner. I mean, he was. Really good. He played a lot of games for that year. If you number Donny, I think he played seventy games though. Yeah, easily. Yeah. Don't see which we don't see that much anymore. So that was really the biggest reason why they got the postseason that season Calvin hasn't been really as good the last couple of years now they've made change their eventually traded, and and then only have cost and who really hasn't been the answer either. So there's a lot of work to be done there for sure with that roster. They're hoping that some of these younger players that they have and their Myrlie Caleb Jones, for example, Steph Jones younger brother defenseman, you know, Yamamoto they drafted a couple of years ago was the first round pick with some of these kind of guys can come in and help their roster. But they haven't drafted and developed very well outside of the first picks that they've had and that is in large part why they're the choice in the rent man credible. Yes. Seventy three appearances retaliated at sixteen seventeen season one forty two teams. So pretty incredible. Yeah. He had a great year. He said he could've easily been. A cow a winner or the visited trophy and could have easily been a candidate for the Hart trophy. He was so valuable then also Elaine, yo he knows the head coach of Philadelphia Flyers. And he got himself a couple of nice lieutenants, Mike, yo, and and shall -tarian. So it's not too often. You see a coach go out and get former head coach assistance, but I guess he signed a long term contract. So I guess the biggest negative of bringing on guys with head coaching experiences. You basically hire guys that could possibly take your job. But at this stage video with first year of a long term contract. I guess just wants to have the best people around him. Yeah. And there's a connection for Chuck Fletcher. Who's a general manager in Philadelphia? Now, I mean, Michael -tarian was in conspiracy was, you know, working under ratio and Pittsburgh before he went to Minnesota. So there's a connection there lane venial and v show Terry and have, you know, I'm sure that they are well acquainted by Joe also was in Pittsburgh at that round that same time and Chuck went also had Mike. Keo with a coach in in Minnesota. So I think there's a lot of film familiarity there with those guys apparently they're eating uperior on as well. So, you know, good for him because we he's a good guy and it hard working instant coach. So you know, we'll see what happens with Philly. But it's odd the Philadelphia Flyers. Now have a very have a pretty large influence from teams that are. So there's I mean, the penguin certainly with Fletcher's background and Tehran's background and ios background. And from the Rangers with Elaine beam. You know, so we'll see I'll play down in Philly. They've got they've got a pretty good roster. When you're going to have a goalie going forward Carter hard so interesting times, and I feel bad for for Ricky Wilson there who was let go today was a good. He's been a very good assistant coach for many many years going back to his time in Dallas when they wanna Stanley Cup. They're really good with young defenseman. So we'll see if he turns up somewhere else. So the theme throughout the second round of the playoffs is oh my God. We could see. All four wildcard teams make it to the conference final. And when it's all said and done, we might only see one right at the Carolina and the completeness sweep, but the islanders, and we'll get to them in a second because the story is just been magical. But right now, San Jose's up three to Detroit DAL, Detroit and Saint Louis tied at three Boston. Allison St Louis tied at three. And then of course, we've got Boston on the verge of of disposing of Columbus. Although John Tyrrell vows they'll be a game seven back in Boston. And that was pretty entertaining over the weekend. But really when so you look at the upsets, and how crazy things are. You know, if we get a Boston, San Jose final EJ, I it you kind of have chalk. But you also have the upset you could have like the best of both worlds here. Because if you get San Jose in Boston, I think a lot of people probably at the beginning of the year wouldn't Vince prize by that. I agree. I mean, I said that, you know, the San Jose shorts where that certainly on my radar at the very start of the season. And you know, the Boston Bruins are or one of you know, one of the better teams in the league this year. So yeah, I mean, if it ends up that way, it'll be it'll be kind of an odd climax to to a playoff run where there were a lot about sets. But again, I go back to the same thing. The league is so darn close right now. And it doesn't take much to to get the edge on on a team in a in a in a four to seven game series when you really drill down on all their weaknesses, and what how you match up against them. But we have a long way to go for all those teams because yeah, they all have to win one game. But you know, those games can be hard to win as we still at round, for example. How to how they three to lead on home ice in game? Six couldn't nail it down. They had a big three nothing lead game seven on the road and the third period and couldn't nail it down. So it's it's tight, and we'll see what happens the rest of the way. With these with these three series that have gone, very deep. We got three game sevens. In the first round. We might get three game sevens in the second round here. So let's say we definitely have one with Dallas in Saint Louis, and I'm not surprised by this at all. I do feel bad not that they would won the game. Anyway, EJ 'cause they were trailing at the time. But that third goal was just a killer. Right. It kinda catches Bishop on the shoulder. And I don't know what you can really do about it. Right. I mean, he's hurt. Clearly, he's down. He made no effort to get back up. But usually let it play out. I don't I don't really think that Dallas has a kick coming though, you do feel bad that that goal was literally scored because you had a goaltender just could not get up. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Dallas has made a case. No, no. I'm just really. Yeah. But you're listening for me. I can only say this don't for me. I would say two things if I was the referee. I would have blown the whistle because I think there's enough discretion in there. When a guy is seriously when you think there might be a serious injury to blow the whistle. He. Was hit with a shot up high? I, you know, I don't know if I Moni maybe his vision is way better than mine from the corner that I was on television. But I wasn't sure if he got hit in the neck I wasn't in show where he got hit until I saw the replay. All I know is he got hit very high near his head. And it went down. He was and he was kind of, you know, rolling and pain. So it was pretty obvious that he was defeated discomfort or distress. And when the goal is down that thought it's different than one of the players is down when the goal is down. If you don't blow the whistle there guys could somebody could have teed up another slap and hit him in the back of the head right on the ice. So, you know, I don't know. I thought you know, Dave read who's my colleague here at NHL network made a made a good I thought had a good thought on it. He you know, and he's playing it almost two thousand and then show games regular season games plus playoffs and his whole life. He's playing hockey. And he said, you know, I've never seen a situation where the goalie went down like that where the whistle wasn't blown. So you know, the end of the day it happened. It was only four seconds between when he got hit. I think it was the puck ends up on the net and really smart of Tomas. Steam to throw it back through the great play by Jaden Schwartz. Stick on it. All I can really say in that spot is I haven't like they read I have never seen the situation where the goal was down and looked to be in in distress or the whistle wasn't blown. And speaking for myself is that whistle would have been in my hand. I would have blown it right there based on what I saw. But that's not to say that the, you know, I it didn't get blown and they Lewis scored and that's life. I think that Dallas has taken the right approach here. Jim Montgomery is taken. I think the absolute right approach because he's got to get focused on getting his team ready for a game seven the St Louis blues. You know, they started on gangbusters and game six they didn't play well for the second part of the first crew in the second period. But once they got the lead, they really didn't give Dallas much. So I think Jim is handling it right by just getting focused on on the next game. And you know, what if? It goes at the other end and Jordan Bennington gets it with a shot, and he's laying there. I'm sure your company's gonna want them not the ball with that. Right. I it's great points by read, and and you look at how sensitive they are two goaltenders possibly getting injured. I mean, the traffic in front of the net. If if a mask is lost during the course of play, the the whistle is instantaneously blown doesn't matter. What's going on? Because obviously the goaltender would imperil without a mask on. But I don't really see how it would have benefited Bishop to fake the injury. Yeah. I think you have to use. You said use your judgement of in that case. I don't see where he would have faked the injury. What how that would have benefited because he would have put himself in position to be able to make the save. So. He could have he could have been like he was laying there in pain. Yeah. He was not able to spend or another shot when it come in. I mean, he could have been in draw the foul absolute want once you see him go 'cause goaltenders will go down. Because when I first saw the angle I thought maybe could've trying to draw a goaltender Fearance. Maybe he had gotten clipped by. Then you saw the one angle that nobody was even close to him. But there was the one angle from the shot from the blue line rethought. Maybe he could have gotten clipped by a player or maybe somebody on the blues, and he was trying to sell a goaltender interference. But clearly from the other angle is I really don't know how it would have benefited the fake it. So I do think they got it wrong. But at the same time as you said Dallas is not complaining it happens. And not sure they would have won the game. Anyway, although it could have been a little bit more of an interesting close. Now, you got a game seven there, which is no surprise because those teams are just so even let's get to the islanders. They get swept. Joe was it just the the fifth time since. Expansion. I think it was or nighttime overall that a team is swept a series only to get swept in the very next round in a best of seven which is crazy, but we talked about last week it this is a machine right now. This is a team that's on a roll. And it doesn't seem to matter who it doesn't seem to matter where I don't know when it's going to all come to get on. I don't want to take anything away from their talent EJ 'cause they do have talent. But you can't tell me it's conference final talent. Especially when they lose Baraza going through some of the injuries that they've gone through. There are just a cohesive unit knows how to play not to protect the lead. You know, they'll fall into that almost sometimes a one Ford is to be able to protect that lead. But you know, I don't want to sit here and talk about what happened to the islanders though. It'd be disrespectful to Carolina because I do think they deserve to win the series. But does this ever come to an end? Because at this point. They just seem like a scary team. Nafta play in Columbus in Boston. Whoever wins that series is going to have their hands full. Yeah. I would say so I mean the Carolina Hurricanes really believe in one another right now. And when guys get hurt the next man up mentality and other guys step up. And I mean, the bottom line is that whether it's been Morales occur mcilhenny. They've had good goal coming. So the good goal is have kept them in the games and giving them chances to win. So that's the first thing we look at right? Then you look at that group defenseman. I mean, slaving seven and unbelievable. You know playoff running eleven games. He's got eleven points is a plus eight. He's playing you know almost twenty seven minutes at night. So I mean, he's been a force out. There. Brett peci was New York kid is playing really, well, you know, he's another guy up over twenty three minutes. He's got the six assists. Plus aid is a player. So you know, he's been at the great local story to a kid from Tarrytown New York who played his youth hockey in New Jersey. And now he's found his way into the National Hockey League and playing well on defense, and you have Justin Faulk back there. You know, you have Callahan or they picked up from the islanders last year as a back end defender. Dougie hamilton. It's kind of a back end the vendor who was higher up another lineups and his his career. They lost over van like like injury. But they've added Hayden. Lori was a high draft pick. They're not using him all that much. But you know, so they've got good goaltending and good defense. And then when you look at through the middle of their team, I mean, Jordan, stall and the bastion auto is centers. I mean stall is a big strong hard to play against guy who's got Stanley Cup when he experience and all those terrific young player with a lot of upside his game and and skill and, you know, this is a pretty good group. And they really believe in one another. They really take care of all the details and the game the back checking the short shifts everything that takes the win. They're trying to nail down. My concern for them would be my thing concern that I had for the islanders after they swept in round number one. Is you know, will there will be a little bit of rough that changes things for them. If we Boston and Columbus go to a game seven that wouldn't take place to win. You probably don't start till Friday. So it's probably a week of idle time for the hurricanes. If you know, Boston and Columbus goes seven so outside of that. This is a really good story. And the team that's playing really well, it really believes it one another NAN the whole jerk story, I think is kind of been fun, and, you know, bunch of jerks from Don cherry, so they've been able to feed off of that too. So it's just a really interesting story. It's been fun. We've seen this from Carolina before it seems like whenever they make the playoffs. They may corron right? It's just incredible. I o to six oh nine and now making back to conference final here in two thousand nine thousand nine ten years after the last time they made a playoff appearance, and we talked about the change in venue with the islanders and a lot of islander fans are trying to make a stink out of that. The only scored the what the one goal in the two games in Brooklyn. It's so rare if ever I think I saw nineteen fifty one the Knicks had the change from the garden to the armory. Because the circus was in town during the course of a series. It's it's so rare to see a team change their home venue in the middle of a series. Do you think it played any kind of factor at all? Well, I mean, I'm not gonna say the islanders lost the series and got swept because the team moves. But I will say this. I mean, not that kind of thing directly impacted each and every player, I mean, these guys all were used to one routine, and you know, now they had to settle back into another routine which they with, but is a little bit more time consuming and taxing as you go day to have to you know, plan your day differently. I mean, when they were at the at the Coliseum they all live out there if they wanted to skate in the morning, they could skate if acidity, and then, you know, again, it was their day was pretty easy the day of going and playing in Brooklyn. It's just added things to worry about it added things in the day of each at every player. And so I mean. In southern packed and the honors. You know, let's face it. They were close to the series. I mean gave one is scoreless into overtime. They make a Calcutta book bakes bad turnover at the at his own blue line and the puck goes the other way, it all of a sudden a good bounce off the dash around. It's one nothing and Carolina wins the first game. They got a couple of quick goals. A game two, you know, they hang on for two one win in that game. And you know, even in game three and Carolina was basically a one goal game as well. So, you know, for me, I mean, these games were the first three games were certainly close. And you know, the just couldn't find a way to be opportunity, opportunistic and Carolina Hurricanes were able to. All right avalanche up against tonight along with the blue jackets and any thoughts on who's got the best chance to close out the series tonight, the sharks. So the Bruins. Well, I mean, I think they're both. It's going to be a struggle bowl of the series have been tight. I mean, the shorts have that experience advantage. I would say over the over the avalanche. But and it's really matchup game there. It looked like Peter Deboer was able to get was able to get Vlasic and burns on the eighth a lot against McKinnon and game number five. And I think that they probably the one of the better games in the in the theories, and they still ended up winning two to one and you know, the avalanche Hudson chances late in the game. So I would imagine the matchups it'll be a little different than. In Colorado with Joe bedroom having that last change, and you know as far as Boston Columbus goes. I mean that's been a nasty award series. And the goal is that both been good, but gift Kuka rascal lot of credit. He's been playing terrific. And he's made the big saves when need be and so that's why they have the leave. But you know, I would suspect tonight Columbus in that building. If they can get the lead in that building kind of, you know, push Bausch on their heels a little bit. They've they'd be in a better position to force game seven, so I guess fancier questions. I'd probably feel like Columbus a little bit better chance. But I think both the whole he's been good chance to win. Right. All right. You ready for some tweets? That's go. All right. Chris. Hey guys to follow up on last podcast with Moslem Qadri. Does it make sense for the flyers to pursue a trade in exchange for gossip spare for the flyers Qadri has the same cap it fits a need at to center and can be replaced in three years with a development of? Patrick frost? Yeah. I mean, I think that that's you know, let's face it. Toronto be looking for help on the blind. I think Toronto would prefer right shot. And I think Toronto would probably prefer someone that's a little bit more well rounded to their game as opposed to do Goss, despair who was more of a, you know, he's like a really power play specialists that are really good offensive defense. I think with with Riley there in Toronto, you know, he's somebody that can fill a lot of that stuff for the for the Leafs. I think they're looking for more of a right shot guy. But you know, that's I think you're in the ballpark with that kind of idea. I think rose gonna move Qadri, and I've already on the record as saying I would then I would be looking to get some help on the blue on David says for someone that didn't watch the hurricanes make their runs to the finals out to six how these teams compared to the current crop of jerks that just find ways to overcome the odds and keep moving and keep winning. Well, those those previous regains teams. They had some really high in players. I mean, the coach. Of of the team now rally Brindamour with all those teams, and you know, the sixteen their stall is in his young crime at that point. And that under twelve points that year. I mean, it was they weren't as good as buffalo. I think they took advantage of the buffalo injuries. But you know, they had a hundred and twelve points that was a good team. Yes. It wasn't good team. And they had a lot of that was coming out of the out of the work stoppage to where I think the rules had changed, and I think Carolina appear love you let that year think their game really fit into what the league was in that particular season. And you know, they got member if you go back, and it was sick. They lost the first two games against Montreal round. Number one at home in the you know, at the jerk store, they lost both of those with their we're both wild games. I think and then lobby I think at that point made the move to Cam ward cause Morty Gerber had bent the starter. Chambord was a rookie that year and the rest as they say is history because they were able to get some footing in Montreal and ended up winning that series and. And I agree with you. Buffalo really got dinged up on the blue on that impacted them. I remember I think it was Brian Campbell through on over the glass out of his killing penalty that ended up being a power play goal for Carolina to game that game that they had the crazy final with the Oilers with Chris Pronger, the Oilers and that particular season. So yeah, that was I thought, you know, those teams had some more veteran players more established players will high players a little bit of a different group. But but this group here as I mentioned earlier that defense is really good. It is for the league that we have now. So, you know, they're they're finding ways, but I'm not going to sit here and say, they don't have talented players. They got some good players on the eve and rod Brindamour has been able to destroy the drink just correctly. And that oh to team. I just looked it up. They won their division. But they had ninety one point. So it was kind of an upset. Of course, Paul MAURICE was the head coach of that team. They had the CBC line. If you remember Archer survey had basically mattresses for goalie. Pads and played well. They kind of split for a while. I think we played well over that. And then urban came in. And he was there guy for much of the playoffs. But you know, they had a they Ron Francis. I believe was on that. And I never they wanted to short at one game one in overtime. And that was a shocker 'cause the Redwings had such a great team that year. I think that was the team that had the nine hall of famers on it something along those lines. I mean, it was all kinds of high in talent and Carolina where they will feel game one. And then I think gave three went to double over did. Yeah. Before the Red Wings were able to win, and you know Carolina had found a way to win that one know gone just taking a look at their roster. You know, they had some pretty decent players Martin. Jalen, I was on that team. But here's a little trivia question might blow you away who led the playoffs in goals. Two two different players who led the playoffs in goals for Carolina that year and points that year in the postseason oh to hurricanes. Okay. Let's see with Brindamour have been one of them or L Brindamour would not be one of them. Okay. Well, you're gonna have to Iran Francis. That Eric Cole thing I think, you know, I'm trying to think of the CBC. Yeah. I was just looking I remember the CBC line. But I can't I don't forget. I forget it was on because I thought it was Brindamour Battaglia and coal. But that doesn't make sense for CBC. So I'm trying to remember how to how that matched up. But yeah points was was would playoff points was drawn Francis. Went sixteen points. A goals was Jeff O'Neill Jeff Jeff O'Neill had eight goals yo- star. And you know, what Bates Battaglia had fourteen points. He was second on the team and postseason points. So he had to be on CBC line then. Yeah. Yes. Listen to what the heck of a run to look back on it at at season's like that where you know. And think about the players that were on those things because it's people. You didn't expect, you know, in some of those circumstances dab -solutely. So you never know what kind of runs you can be on. But this canes team is going to be among one of the biggest surprised as all time. Brian g says will the islanders re-sign all of their UFA's. Well, I don't think they're going to sign all of them. I mean, I think that they'll I think you know, Lou ever those spoke today at their break-up day, and he spoke in glowing terms about Andrew's lease. So I think that the she certainly there captain is very very high on their list. And I soon he's gonna get resigned. You liked it there they like him. And I'm sure they'll work something out Brock Nelson. I think is probably on their list to try to keep as well. Although, you know, I don't know if he's going to be patting anybody on the head next year during games and one of the weirder stories I've seen and then they Joe playoff where we're guy past the goalie out ahead after a goal is scored by his excuse either. They want to run into that was. Yeah. No. That was just a weird play. But you know, what I didn't really like either Doug, and you have been patting brought Nelson on the head during blind. Because I, you know, especially in this is the thing they had a game, and they had four more periods that I believe we played in that series after that play by now. Happened. I believe late in the second period play happening three. And if w Hamilton was that upset by it. There was plenty of time for Dougie Hamilton to let those rock Nelson know how he felt and when you think about game for you had a full twenty minutes of play where the series was basically over at that point. And, you know, not to say Dougie Hamilton news do anything crazy. But if he wanted to confront Brock Nelson physically he had every opportunity to do it. But instead he probably them on the head in the handshake line. So I don't know why Brock Nelson did it to begin with. I thought it was kind of silly. I've interviewed blocked Elston before he seems like a pretty, you know, Minnesota kid doesn't say too much. So I mean, I have no idea what was going on the ice. And why he did that? But I think if Deng Hamilton had such a big problem with it. He's probably because he had many he had a lot of opportunity over the next eighty minutes of of series time to make those feelings known during this Nelson, and he didn't do it. So that you. This is a guy that was basically cowering away from Alex Ovechkin and round number one. So for me, I was the, you know, the act itself was kind of silly by by Brock Nelson. But I thought Dougie Hamilton response with equally strange, and you know, in my view, Cowan be honest with you, but any rate that's that. All right. We got a couple of nights. So I think Nelson's gonna sign after that Leonard they're going to probably try to sign Leonard too. But I think, you know, Louis probably look at it a lot of things when it comes to goaltenders. And you know, I think he's probably high on their list. But if you know, so gay Brisky is someone that has shown an interest in there. I in coming to the island. I think they would entertain that as well. So we'll see. But I would think those guys for sure I don't think George W will be coming back, and I'm not sure about about Falco pay. And I'm glad you brought brought up Abroskin. We'll close it out with this. And I mean, no disrespect to their goaltending. They paired for Jennings. Okay. I'm just not sure if either of those two guys are like Cup championship goalies. Honestly, I have Leonard. A great stories up for the Vezina. But I'm not sure that somebody you build around and Greis the same thing. I think they're nice goal tender's and they could pops possibly win a Cup with the right team in front of them. But if you've got a chance to upgrade, I still look at that as an area that you can upgrade, and if a ski wants to sign with you, I am not going to shy away because of how well Greis Leonard played this year. Yeah. I think that's the proper approach, and I would say the one of the things is I think what we learned in the second round. Is that that that that right is the clear number two death because if there was ever an opportunity to make gold cutting change in a playoff series? It was after game three. It wasn't a knock on lender. I think just to change up your team, and the fact that Greis had played so well against Carolina not only hash here, but he had a winning record in his career against the hurricanes. Whereas I don't think lobban letter has ever beaten hurricanes. I thought that was the time to do it. So it really tell told me they started that game. But lender. That that Robin. Leonard was the clear number one. Despite the fact that they had basically split the games almost down the middle during the regular season. I mean, let her play forty six grace played forty three. There's the fisticuffs were almost identical and yet when push came to show after three games of the series. There was an unwillingness to go to rice. So, you know, if you're wondering, you know, moving forward, I would think tells you that they viewed while been Leonard with the clear number one. And right says the number two despite the games played situations. I still would have done it. Anyway, I think I would have done it too. I would've I would've gone to I said the other day I would have gone to grace in game four just shake things up no reflection of of the way, let her plate. And maybe because I can remember, you know, and I heard team that was down three nothing against the Pittsburgh Penguins in nineteen seventy five when our decided to go to Chico rushing game for as opposed to Billy Smith, and she responded with a one with a winning game four and they ended up winning the series and. Seven one now thinking game seven, so you know, maybe that's just me being around for too long to remember such a thing. But you know, I thought it was probably time to today has what in the end the ended up having to come in any way. But by then it was too late. Now is way too late or I tonight a couple of games sixes, blue, jackets and Bruins sharks and the avalanche. So a lot to go over tomorrow. We'll talk to you again on Monday when we'll have everything set for the conference finals tonight down be I I'm gonna go with towards believing in his team. I think the blue jackets will force a game seven. I think the sharks finish it off tonight. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, that's good. That's interesting because it's gets tight. So we'll see how it goes. All right. We'll talk to you next week. All right. All right. That's the great EJ Radic. So seven o'clock the first game in Columbus. Ten o'clock relate game eastern time from Colorado Avalanche and the sharks avalanche and the blue jackets both facing elimination. Hopefully, we can get three games sevens out of the four here in the second round and set things up as Carolina twiddle their thumbs and waits for their opponent. Which may not come until later on this week. Definitely won't come to later on this week is Wednesday would be the potential game seven if Columbus doesn't need win tonight back with the tomorrow. Thanks for all the tweets at download Greco hashtag game misconduct. The way to get in touch him in the back with you again tomorrow. This is the Monday edition of game Escada. Terms need to gain misconduct podcast looking for more done. League-record? 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