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Lost Boy, Part 2: Pastor Greg Recounts His Start in Ministry

Greg Laurie Podcast

25:30 min | 4 months ago

Lost Boy, Part 2: Pastor Greg Recounts His Start in Ministry

"Hey everybody greg laurie here. You're listening to the greg. Laurie podcast and my objective is to deliver hopefully compelling rocktile insights and faith culture and current events from a biblical perspective to find out more about our ministry. Just go to our website harvest dot org. So thanks for joining me for this podcast. Great pick up this riveting story just after his decision to become a follower of jesus at first i was very uncomfortable. And i didn't feel like i fit in and i didn't think this was is going to work but my life started to change and it started to make more sense to me and hanging out with my old friends was making a whole lot. Less sense to me and in things were happening in my life little prayers. I was praying. Were being answered. I went down to the bible bookstore. And i saw this bible. It was scofield. Cross reference greg's recollection from a radio interview. Nearly twenty years ago and i pray and i said god if you're really there for me please provide me with that bible and i didn't tell anybody about it and i called my grandmother and i told her mama stella guess what i become a christian as jesus christ in my life and the first thing she said was well. I want to buy you a bible. The bible that you'd like to get all god answered my prayer and sell the lord use my grandmother to To enter their first prayer. In on i still use the scofield bible the thing and so that was You know. I would just excited. Because i wanted to tell her. Because that was a part of it it helped to plant the seed that was harvested much later so those seeds that you plant it all those many years ago Those seeds blossom. Didn't they mama stela great before about thank the lord everyday my prayers i could see god was changing me in this anger that i have for the whole world was gone and it was actually feeling a love for people i used to hate and i thought this is really radical. I knew that christ was changing my life when we heard that someone had told him about. Jesus way just shouted pastor greg willy willy jordan. It was so exciting that charlene son had come to jesus and what was almost more wonderful than that was the fact that his feet didn't seem to hit the ground he was off and running in telling other people about jesus and you know i wanted to reach my mother in so i remember one day i went home and she had a couple of drinks and and i decided to just blast her with both barrels by newly-acquired gospel gun. I just like told her. You know you're this is sin and you've got to stop doing you go to hell and i remember that conversation going well at all. She was an amazing person. It evading the subject can it and she was very pleasant and she was a very nice person and we we had nice conversations but it only went to a certain depth. And i think my mom she probably thought. Oh this is great. You know. I spend my whole life trying to get away from my parents and i raised my son in a home. Where there's no you know church and there's no bible now. My own son is trying to preach to me. And so it's kinda humorous when you look realize my mom. She was corner. There was no getting away for well. Let me ask you something When you council new believers now do you tell them thinking back about your experience. what do you tell. New believers about Whether they should go back right away and sheer christ with their old unsafe friends. Or do you counsel them more like they need to separate from them until they grow a little bit in their faith. What council people to do is to get grounded and thankfully the lord brought a guy in my. His name was mark and I was having a hard time connecting with christians. I didn't really know anybody all that. Well and and they had a language. I didn't understand you know they talked about you. Know things like the body and the blood of christ in sanctification and discipleship. What did these words mean. It was learning a whole new language. It was a whole new world you know. I had no real foundation in these things but my life was beginning to change. But i was having a hard time. Connecting the dots and a guy comes along named mark never met him before said hi. My name is mark. I saw that you went forward the other day at school and pray to receive christ. I'm kind of defensive. Yeah and he says well. I wanna help you and we'll what do you mean he goes. I wanna take you to church. Wh what church where place called calvary chapel and and i was resistant but to mark's credit he was persistent he came. He picked me up on my house. He drove me to calvary chapel. That's when i first heard. Chuck smith teach the bible. That's when i was first in a church setting this was just a little bible. Study was the i was in high school so i was just immersing myself in it at this point and now i couldn't get enough. I couldn't get an bible study. I couldn't hear enough. I couldn't learn enough. I just was filled with questions so my life was changing so i think with every new believer needs to do is is they need a guy like mark on their life or you need to be a guy like mark in someone else's life you need to find a new believer and take him under your wing and help them get up on their feet spiritually he certainly see this pattern in scripture. You see aquilla. And priscilla taking an amend name apollo's and helping him get a stab in this space there as the bible says learned the word of god more the way of god more perfectly. You see paul doing it with timothy it. This pattern is throughout scripture. Helping someone out be that someone for someone else. And if you are a new believer find someone that's mature and the fate that can help you learn the ropes if you will because there's just a lot of crazy things you can say and do as a young christian you need to get a good foundation. I and i'd recommend that you not hang around a bunch of your old friends who are still living in the way of the world but instead find people that love the lord the bible says flee youthful loss and follow righteousness and peace along with those call on the lord out of a pure heart. Well there's so much more of your story at to combat. I wanna ask you right here at this juncture The past experiences in your life and the way you wrestled with these issues The way you dabbled with drugs you faced violence in the home. A how do those affect your ability now to relate to unbelievers as you're preaching the gospel. It's very easy for me to put myself in the shoes of a non believer even to this day. Even though i've been a christian for a lot longer than i was a number lever. I still can understand the mindset of a non-christian at sometimes i'm preaching. I'll be in the middle of a message. And i might see something you might be sitting there thinking and then i'll describe what a person is thinking in more than one occasion i've had people who are number believers who accepted christ that particular time. Say when you describe what a person might be thinking you describe me to a t. How did you know that it's not that hard for me to put myself in my old shoes again and almost be the guy speaking and then almost put myself in the shoes of the person listening with the kind of questions they might have in any given moment and i try to use that to my advantage when i'm speaking because i try to anticipate questions and answer them as i speak instead of just giving out a bunch of rhetoric that people are not going to necessarily even grasp all right well. We're we've just crossed a bridge now. You've you've accepted. Christ she become a believer and we're moving into the season of your life when the lord starts to use you you analogy in your book between the position in your life. Now and in fact you're the chapter title is called something about seeing a turtle on a fence post. Describe what you mean by seeing a turtle on a fencepost. Well if you're walking down a little country road say and you see a turtle sitting on a fence post you know. He didn't get there by himself. Someone must have put him there. And when i looked back on my life and i see what god has done with me and through me. It's clear that i didn't get through my own designs or calculations or scheming of the lord. Put me where i am. There's no way. I could have gone from where i was to worry 'em today without god intervening in my life. All right so you've come to christ your brand new believer and Marcus taking to calvary chapel You're familiar with this This preacher named pastor chuck smith and somehow year graphic arts talents. Bring you into contact with this man. Who will eventually proved to be one of the most prominent prominent spiritual mentors in your life. Yes you know. I've been a cartoon my whole life. My goal in life was to be a professional cartoonist. I i actually had been corresponding with charles schultz. The the creator of it to very graciously would write me letters. And i remember when i was a little boy getting a letter from him and it was like a letter from heaven you know and and i would ask him the most ridiculous questions and he would always right back and answer and one time i said. Can i have a piece of original art. And he sent me old comic strip that he had done which i have since lost like an idiot and but you know he was very gracious man and he himself had a faith in christ early on in his life. I read a biography about him recently. That talked about that but so you know. This was my whole goal in life. I want to be a professional cartoonist. And now that. I'm a christian. I don't really know what this all means. I'm processing this information. And i'm sitting in church hearing things i've never heard before. Okay well back. In those days the little tracks or the religious literature that was handed out in those days i thought were were really ineffective and there was some that were put out there. Little cartoon drawings about people ending up in helen the double laughing at them and i remember actually reading one of those before. I was a christian when i was stoned and laughing at it. That's impacted out on me may have impacted others differently. But i thought. I need something that would relate to people like i used to be at. I could give out. And so i was thinking about this well while i'm going to calvary chapel. Ame is still in high school. Emma senior now and my art class. The assignment was due a comic strip. Well comic strip been doing comic strips my whole life. That's easy but of a typical comic strip that i do which usually is a series of panels at build up to a punchline. I thought maybe. I'll i'll take what i heard a church and input that in cartoon form and chuck had given a message on the woman at the well where jesus told her if she drank of the water of that wealthy thirst again but if she drink the water that he gave me with never thirst again because this would be like living water so i decided to call this little cartoon story living water. And it's just a picture of a guy with a big old hole in his heart. And i drew a little hole in his heart and it starts off You know we've all been born with this hole in our heart. And then i begin to talk about. Jesus and i took chunks message in effect illustrated it. Then i was all done there. It was living water. And i didn't know what to do with it so i thought i go over to chuck smith's house and show this to him and see what he thought. First time i met greg he was had come to the front door of our house and he showed me a little cartoon that he had drawn. That was sort of followed after the sermon that i preach the previous sunday. He pastor chuck. I go to calvary. And i heard your sermon the other day and i do this little track. That sort of illustrates what you had said. And and i remember as he looked over to a smile came on his space in. He seemed to be enjoying it. And he said greg this very clever We should put this in a little booklet form for others to read so he showed me what the dimensions ought to be in. Oughta be done so i went back and redo it again. Redesigned it to fit this format and that resulted in the little booklet. That was called the living water. Track and calvary chapel distributed. A few of those didn't they. Yeah the the fringe up a few thousand and they were gone than they printed up more and they were gone. And i think oh was when it was all said and done something like three million of them were were distributed we really became quite a phenomena and that was my first taste of being used by the lord so at that point that well. That's it now now. I'm going to be a christian cartoonist. A christian designer. I'll just pursue my career and art. But what i will do is i'll use it to glorify god okay. So he started going to bible studies at calvary chapel costa mesa and even Hanging around there at the church during the we are helping out. Yeah and set up a little drawing board in one of the offices there and there were some pastors on staff. They were all about eight nine years older than i was and they were doing the work of ministry they were like interns at calvary at that time and i'm around eighteen years old and i'm doing my art work and i know that i want to serve god but my frustration was that was only so much i could do with art. I spent a lot of time sitting at a drafting table looking at a blank. Piece of paper trying to think of some clever way to communicate the gospel. I've done some album covers at that point for various christian groups and some flyers and posters and things for events that were happening. But you know. I was still feeling a sense of frustration wanting to do more but not knowing what to do and and watching these guys serving the lord i was beginning to think that maybe god was calling me to more than just being a cartoonist. And maybe god was calling me to be a preacher. He would come out during the day and just sit around especially waiting for lunchtime when the pastors would go to lunch and even have then the secretary of put all the calls coming in through to him and he would start counseling people and of course people who called in and looking for council didn't know they've done to some nineteen year old kid. They basically gave me the jobs that nobody else wanted to do. You know if there was some convalescent home that nobody wanted to go to. Greg got to do it. And i went to a mental institution and preached one time. I would do a bible study three hours away because someone said. Can you come to a bible study and our house. I would go anywhere any place and do what the others didn't wanna do. And actually it was a great crash course on learning how to minister in different situations now. I know that you were leading a bible study in long beach at one time and Young girl sitting up near the front named kathy caught your attention. In fact i wrote my notes Kathy martin and the sisters of ubiquity. So you got to know this kathy martin who would later become kathy. Laurie but Her sisters were always there. Yeah they were all fixed at the hip for something you know. They went everywhere as a trio and in. This is okay fast forward a little bit. I'm actually getting into ministry. And i'm doing a little mid week. Bible study down in long beach and so one day. When i'm doing my study. I noticed these girls sitting out there. It's not like. I was scoping girls when i was giving bible studies but i wasn't blind either. You know and i'm a single guy and i see this girl that catches my eye. There was something special about her. She was very pretty but there was something different about her. That that intrigued me. And so i thought i'm gonna go introduce myself to her after the little bible study so i walked up to her and said hi. I'm greg or you. And you know. Honestly dave thought you would be kind of impressed by me because i just done the bible study and the thing was. She wasn't impressed at all. And i said so. Are you going to keep coming back to this. Little bible study. She said. I might but we might go to another one instead. Thanks a lot. And i noticed that her sisters and did everything together so i invited them all out to coffee afterwards and then we went out to coffee and then they said hey. We should all go do this sometime. We did this and we did a number of things together and then one day. I mustered up the courage to say he kathy. Why don't you go with me over to this place. Oh and my sisters. i said no. Not your sisters. Just you. And i think she started. I don't really want the sisters come on him. Interested in you and that was sort of develop or the beginning of our courtship so the courtship is kind of developing as your ministry calling is developing now at one point There is a bible study out in riverside which is now forty five minutes away from our chapel. Costa mesa that Nobody else wants to take right and So it gets handed off to the new guy. Yeah that's right coming back to my days at calvary you know. I'm just kind of doing whatever i can do. I'm doing everything and anything. I'm doing cartooning. I'm drawing and designing to try to make ends meet. I'm speaking anywhere. People will have me speak and this opportunity opens up in riverside. Ironically lonnie frisbee coming back to him from moment he had started. This bible study up in riverside at an episcopalian church had actually grown quite large and was doing very well about three hundred people but lonnie left that bible study and moved off to florida and it was handed off to various pastors as one could understand when there's not a stable person there it just got smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and by the time it came my direction it was around eighty people and in various guys at calvary were doing and you know why did it last week. You know i'm doing it next week. All i don't wanna do it. And then they finally turned into great. Do you want to go to that. Bible study and riverside. I said sure you know. So i go to my car and drove out to riverside and it's kind of funny because the people were there and i walked up and said hi. I'm supposed to do the bible study tonight. And the guy who was in charge was an older man. He said who are you. I said i'm from calvary chapel. He says well. I don't know you. Nobody told me you're coming. I said well i'm supposed to do. The bible study goes little. You're not gonna do it. Okay now the older billion starts coming back. And i'm looking at this adult guy. You're not gonna tell me what i'm not gonna do it. But then but see. I changed a lot and i thought no. That's not what god would have me to do. I need to humble myself. And i said okay. Well whatever you want. i'll just be here and if you need me i'll be here to speak and if you don't want me i won't speak and just humbled myself and shut up where normally i would've given him a lot of talk. Might just walked up there and done it. I thought no. That's not the way i should do this. And well. the other guy didn't come because he wasn't coming. That guy realized i wasn't the guy. Yeah all right you can speak this one time but only once said okay and i got up nice spoke and real. Vote a confidence. Vote of confidence. You know went well. I gave an imitation in a number of kids came forward and gave their life to the lord and apparently that did not happen in a long time and he said well. Why don't you come back next week and do it again. And that became the beginning of. What is our church today. but at one point Some of the officials from that church actually drove out to calvary chapel. Costa mesa you saw come into the chance to meet with pastor chuck and you You throw whether they're coming to pat on the back. Right we'll see with a about a year is combined. This little bible study is now exploded running over three four hundred people. The local newspaper has come out done an article on it. I started a mid week. Bible study and we're teaching to the bible together. It's becoming a church in a church and we actually drew a little bulletin and in this little bulletin over in the corner. Very small type. Words minister greg. Laurie not even passages minister. They didn't like that. You're not the minister. You're not the pastor here and they kind of wanted to control it and they wanted to get rid of me. So i'm still hanging around calvary and living in orange county at this time and I'm down there at the office. And one day i see like the pastor of the church and a couple of the elders come in and and i said guys. What are you doing here. We're here to meet with pastor. Chuck can said all great. Can i come. They said no. I said why they said well. We're here to get rid of you. So that was that was pretty low blow and they went into his office and i was devastated by that. And i thought why you know and and i prayed in in the lord spoke to my heart again and i felt the lord saying to me. I'm gonna. I'm gonna move you to whole new place a whole only thing's going to happen and i waited in the office praying and then i. I was in one of the other pastors offices just sitting there in the little intercom ring and it was a secretary. She said. Pastor chuck wants you to come into his office right now now. I'm flashing back in elementary school again. I'm going to see the vice principal in trouble. And i go and sit down and chuck's office and he has a big smile on his face. And he says. Greg we gotta find you a new place and so instead of wanting to get rid of me. He understood what was going on and he wanted to help me get established as a real church. So what happened after that. Did you find a church. Well it just so happened. That around that time someone had discovered an abandoned church building on arlington avenue and used to be a baptist church. They had a split and literally. These people had come in and taken up hughes of the pulpit was gone literally carried furniture out of their church. It was a bitter split and there was this building sitting on a hill abandoned. It had been that way for some time and someone said maybe we could use that building for our church. And so i remember one night. We went there into the parking lot. We stood outside and we prayed and you have to understand how impossible that seemed. I mean we're just a little group of you know a few hundred kids. I mean literally. We're all kids. The oldest one among us is twenty two tops twenty three. Maybe even younger than that. And we're we're trying to figure out how to do. There's an understanding also nowadays start up. Churches are common in we see churches everywhere with contemporary music. At this time there were no little start up churches. there were no churches of young people. There was not contemporary christian music as the norm. This had not been done. There was county chuckled. Costa mesa that it was going to at the time but this was a whole new frontier. And i'd never known of anyone who had done this before but it was clear that the lord had raised up a church. Now what so. This property is available so we found out the real representing the property. I called chuck. Chuck would you come up with this realtor and he came out and and i remember that we're looking at now at the building. It's daytime we're walking around. The places is so thrashed and carpets coming up and paint chipping off walls but hey it was a building and needed a lot of work but it was a building and i'm sort of looking around with this building and chuck in this. Realtor deepened discussion. And i see chuck palahniuk checkbook. Write out a check. Give it to the realtor shake his hand and he walks over to me says well great he just got yourself a church. He shook my hand he got in his car. Offi went. and what are you done was. He had put down the payment of for our lease for our first few months but we had to come up with the rest so he gave us her start and then i had to go back to these guys at this other church and say we're leaving. We're going to go to our own church. And i remember the pastor saying you're gonna fail greg. This is not gonna work. He said the reason that these young people are being allowed to come as their parents know. There are dull chaperones around. They care of this and with us gone. The parents will never let their kids come. This is all going to collapse. You'll see and i felt bad like well. what am i doing. I am out of my mind. So i know that sunday. This is my last sunday here. And we're going to this place and had a little map drawn up. And i said i hope you'll come with me and we left there with three hundred people in the next sunday. Five hundred people shown up so we picked up two hundred people. I don't know where they came from. Well that's failure. That's a good failure. Got up on the platform. There's a great excitement in the room. It's worked to know the lord blessed it and there's a buzz in the room. And i look out and sitting a few rows out is the very pastor that had told me it wouldn't work and i felt really vindicated and almost a sense of pride. Like i was right. You know and again. It's his thing with adults and he's an older man. And i'm thinking i see i showed you but then i thought now that's not right. What were the lord want me to do. I go ask them to come up here and thank him for all he did get this church started and i swallowed my pride in inviting him up and he was shocked when i did so and i think in publicly and i didn't mention the things he said to me discourage me and i and he said a few words and i thought that was the right thing to do. Under the circumstances automatically the birth of what's now known as harvest christian fellowship in riverside california church of some fifteen thousand people. Everybody greg laurie here. For listening to our podcast and to learn more about harvest ministries please subscribing consider supporting this. Show just go to harvest dot. Org and by the way if you wanna find out how to come into a personal relationship with god go to know. God dot org. That's keno w. g. o. d. dot org.

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10 Reasons Christians Should Vote for President Trump

The Charlie Kirk Show

57:13 min | 10 months ago

10 Reasons Christians Should Vote for President Trump

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I, am honored to be able to share this episode with you at has been widely remarked as a very positive sequence of speeches. You're going to hear the best of that also listen to our sister ask me anything episode, and as of today we are live radio stations across the country. So check us out at Charlie, Kirk Dot, com and as always e mail us your. QUESTIONS FOR TO METALLIC DOT COM, we tackle the key issues and news of the day and so much more here in the Charlie Kirk show, and also if you guys want to win a signed copy of the Maga- doctrine type in Charlie Kirk show to your podcast provider hit subscribe and leave us a five star review very important topics here disgust people really have been enjoying the sequence of speeches air to exclusively here on the. Charlie. Kirk show buckle up everybody here. We don't generally what you've done is incredible. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. To know we are lucky to have. Charlie. Charlie coach running the White House. I want thank Joe. He's an incredible guy, his spirit his love of this country's done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point USA, he will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Well. We talk about. You say I would just if I had my mission in simple is to see young people love our country again. But why would that matter the church? Why? Why should that be something that how much time g we'RE GOING TO GO? We're going to go till nine thirty. So. Perfect just about enough. You just get started. Yeah I mean wha- boy I mean this country first and foremost was founded after the first grade awakening in our country when activists pastors were rising up against widespread debauchery drunkenness and moral disorder an out of the first great awakening of Whitfield and Jonathon Edwards and if you want to just read a very, let's just say strongly-worded sermon read centers in the hands of an angry God Jonathan Edwards and you might reconsider some life decisions you've been doing. Definitely Old Testament Cetera than New Testament centric of of God. But no out of the great awakening all the sudden the kind of the religious underpinning of our country was reawakened, which this started. You know very about one hundred and thirty years before that as separate religious colonies and the question started to be posed especially in seventeen, sixty three as the French Indian or ended where to rights come from like who are we? Who are we in the state of nature and these questions really hadn't been struggled with very much. Yet, on the planet, the Greeks wrestled with it a little bit Socrates Plato, and Aristotle. They had briefed democracy that ended within a couple of generations after Alexander, the great and just turned into a bunch of city states and they had seen democracy but idea like where do rights come from and self-governance and being able to create a government that first and foremost recognizes rights come from God not from the government was just so incredibly transformational and John locked a lot of that work for us and so here's the. One thing why should Christians care about anything outside of the church and not every Christian, holds this view and I this is my view is that I do not believe in compartmentalized Christianity I believe in comprehensive. Christianity. I believe who you marry how you act where you shop and yes. Whether or not you're involved in politics should all be a reflection of the most important thing in your life which is your relationship with Jesus Christ and I don't think there should be anything that can be unlocked by the Gospel. Amen Let's jump right in. Evidently there's an election here soon, I didn't know that and. You were you unaware yeah. Thanks. Thanks for reminding. Good. So. Here we come and it is a common sort of position as you speak at churches you. As you said with the leadership there that you deal with this sort of push back of I, I can't believe that they're bringing politics to the you've defiled the pulpit because you're GonNa, talk about something other than twelve verses tonight and so what place does politics have within the context of the church or vice versa I mean this is something that you go. Well, yeah, Bu. Let me state the obvious which is the question. Every person should ask especially anyone over the age of forty or recent mothers out there and fathers is am I leaving a better country or a better place for my kids than? I had, and that should just be a very simple question right and if the answer is no, then what are you doing about it? The it or the answer is you don't care. Then I mean come on, you might be you might be giving something that might have almost assured suffering or difficulty for the loved ones that you have that are younger and so and if some people say well, it doesn't matter at all whatsoever who cares it's no different. Oh No it it matters. Let me tell you why what you're doing right now. You would all be arrested if you did this in California right now. Politics matter everybody. Like your governor in Tennessee is different than the governor in California Cavalry Chapel Thousand Oaks. Right now rob McCoy. My Pastor is under Criminal Prosecution EPA criminal prosecution because he's doing exactly what you get to enjoy right now you think politics matter. Go to California and go try to go to church service right now you'll be in criminal defiance of what's happening right now because they say it's not safe. Meanwhile, they keep abortion factories open we dispensaries opened home improvement stores, open liquor stores, opening march in the streets no mass, no social distancing if you have a sign that the agrees with the Los Angeles mayor on certain certain. Issues. So yeah I mean if you don't think it matters I mean come on. I. Mean. What? What more evidence do we need right now because for example, in Calvert Calvary Chapels, the perfect place to be talking about this and so calvary chapel startling California, the Calvary Chapel Crusade by Chuck Smith. There are three hundred and fifty calvary chapel. South van is in California three, hundred fifty. There's more calva chapels and Dunkin donuts and California. Okay True and that one part of area in fact they said you are not allowed to anymore new calvary. Chapel. They said, you can't have more than one in every ten square miles everywhere. What are they have to show for it? California's aborted more babies in the entire population Canada the authors a no fault divorce transgender bathrooms they have their lead nation poverty homelessness divorce and discord social unrest inequality you name it and so as the church exploded to the country or The culture around them improving now, when it comes to a head to church dots to reopen John Macarthur Jack Kim's pass around McCoy are all under criminal prosecution right now because they're doing what you're enjoying right now, what's the difference? Same Country Different state different politics Tennessee has made better not perfect choices that say, hey, maybe church is more important than a casino. California doesn't have that belief. So for Christians better dive right into this political discussion right now because it is impacting the body in this country right now, pastors in your Calvary Chapel community right now in California from Pastor James Cadiz. The Pastor Jack Kids to past rob McCoy three calvary chapel pastors right now are dealing with criminal prosecutions, court hearings and judges because they're doing all of you take for granted. Right. Now, I'm not saying you take for granted but I'm sure someone in this room then probably recognize how unique just in this state to be able to enjoy. You're doing right now where your your amazing pastor had the boldness to reopen the church other calvary chapels doing and there met with that kind of backlash. Why? What's difference? Tennessee in California Tennessee your income rate is what income tax rate is zero. You vote for hopefully leaders that want you to look quiet and peaceful lives, and in California they are now decriminalizing pedophilia sp one forty-five where an elvis son pedophile no longer have to register in the sex registry database, John California, you could be living next to a pedophile and they don't have to do that any longer. So why is that? The case was because this amazing costume republic that we've been given? Is A participatory government? It's not a spectator government and you might think it's messy. So it's the church. What's the point might say that Oh both sides are awfulness less Jesus Christ himself as running for office you're always voting for the lesser of two evils. The questions are you going to contest for the good the right and the moral in every single vertical of your life and people say well, again, they say it's the I can't move the dial demonstrated. There's a difference in Tennessee and California justice something that you're enjoying, right? Now, so I think all those arguments are fickle and fragile and kind of fall apart upon cross examination every single time, and I'm not arguing that there is perfection their arguing is better. That's a big difference and I also think that we have a moral obligation as believers in Christ followers to, of course first and foremost spread the Gospel. Most important thing we can do second things nick sure you can spread the Gospel immense. You can't right now in California it is illegal to do what you're doing right now. So, you started with a good start with a good point just as we look at this next election, you look at. The reality is. It should be an unmistakable rally seemingly still little foggy as to just. On whose chest is the bullseye as relates to a conflict struggle between right wrong life death, darkness, light truth, and error. So you start off by saying there is a certain liberty that we're enjoying here right now tonight did somewhere else another political environment, our country guys this is not Korean that's not North Korea. China. Our. country. And so her son. Jeez. Yeah You know what? Pastor Rob McCoy would give to be able to have the local government that you guys have right now. He would give jail time literally because that's what he's facing. And so for Christians and believers out there I think you can just cash it in your brothers in Cava Chapel. Church could go to jail because of bad politics. and. So let me just build this out even further. How did we get here? Right I how do we get to a point where cannabis dispensaries are value more than churches where casinos are valid more than churches were abortion is deemed essential but the body of Christ is not in salvation is somehow been put to be debatable. How did how did we get here? Well, the Calvary Chapel is actually the perfect example of this because cal calvary chapels heavy emphasis on an escapade logical belief that Jesus Christ will return I hold that bullies however every scatology comes with a liability and an asset, every single eschaton. So big belief in the calvary family is at the House on fire gotta get kids out. To Jesus coming next Thursday, always joke around you. Sure. It's not next Friday because. Our is unknown, but there's this belief that there's an eminence collapse times of no are here that Varel might be right. I, think none of that warrants an excuse for not engagement in the public square none of it, and so I think in some ways, the Kapala breeded apathy and a lot of churches just kind of said, it's all awful. It's all falling apart I don't have to get involved. It's all messy. We're just going to focus on kind of this myopic view, and now you're starting all of a sudden consequences of this where people that were secular atheistic a hedonistic. Nature they cared much more about the public square than those of us that had truth those that actually were investors alight and the word of God, and that never should have happened to be perfectly honest with you is never should have happened that those people that are the ambassadors of darkness are contending more in the public square than those of us that are the ambassadors of lights in them, and so that kind of collision right now should be happening. You're always going to have conversation of good versus evil and I don't think I really have to make it more clear like California sp one, forty-five cuties on net flicks. They're teaching ten year olds. The most graphic sexual education things you could possibly imagine I could go on but I'm GONNA, keep it PG, and so if that does not elevate your sense of awareness. I challenge you ask what what exactly would and again I understand. It's Messiaen our second. Make you uncomfortable people say I don't like it it's this I just kind of vote I kind of cash it in but I make the. Inter Inter Generational. Argument Right I'm twenty six so I can I can look at this kind of. Kind of from a younger and older perspective right? So I look at it where I want to start a family just ten years ago as a teenager right and I could tell you right now there's a mess being handed a young people. Where we are, we are really kind of for the first time in our country's history handing over a country that will be less free, less prosperous and further from a moral center and so that should that should take every person that has the has been reborn. Jesus. Christ should pause concern and say what are we doing about that and then some people say this favorite things I'm just kinda playing devil's advocate throughout all this kind of dismiss can get into the meat of it. Where people say well, it doesn't matter what I do doesn't actually make a difference of that's an Unchristian view. Everything you do matters to God everything you do. To how you act to what you say to who you marry. If you have a son believe that God gives you a hall pass for certain actions and kind of tell me where the parameters of God's providence doesn't shine. Please inform that to me. That's compartmentalize Christianity. What I do in this specific remedies and Kfi lie really. So all of a sudden what part does God's Almighty you Know Dominion Over Earth Not Touch, and whether we whether you signed up for this or not well, guess what you're part of it politics is a huge part of now the country that you live you don't like it. You're free to leave but if you're gonNA stay, then you should engage in double down because now everything is touched by politics and if you don't get involved other people will and those other. People probably don't share the same world do that you do they probably don't believe that God is real. Most of them don't they probably don't believe that exploitation of children is wrong. They don't believe that there's something wrong with showing cuties on. Netflix. Do I need to give you more cultural red flags or fire alarms that there's some need for engagement because even five years ago I wouldn't stop the things that I'm listening right now and that's just the beginning starting point where in Georgia should have been the number one news story. The Federal Bureau of Investigation working with other agencies they rescued forty seven children from being sex trafficked Georgia. Lot of you probably don't even know that you can look up the story that would be national news get covered under the activists meet who sex trafficking, our children our country. You know that people say we abolish slavery say a former slavery. Yes. There's more slaves on the planet now than there were when slavery existed legally in America we are we have legal sex slaves coming across the southern border every day and some of them the Hartsfield Jackson International Airport the number one hub sex trafficking in the North American continent so that women that are innocent are being. I'M GONNA, use mortgage. You know PG terms you guys know exactly what I mean by that and it's not even worthy of saying. But what what, what are you doing to contend to try to fix that? Right? So I, I. Think the reawakening is so important right and so I will not stand idly by when some of these things that are so incredibly urgent. To immoral society even more than that. Has the world become a better place because of American, the answer's absolutely yes. Not even a question America's made mistakes but America's not a mistake. America set the standard for Western society, which is one that respects speech respects the rights of the innocent respects. The rights of minorities allows family formation to succeed in thrive America not only was. The first and flight the first of the Moon Brain Surgery Open heart surgery. That's absolute expansion of life expectancy. However, not only not all those things are absolute. Sure. But it's America that gives five hundred billion dollars away to charity every single year when there's a natural disaster flood hurricane or earthquake, they don't say let's call the Belgians I say where the Americans South Korea. Exists, because thirty two, thousand Americans went and died when they call the forgotten war in the Korean Peninsula and we push back the evil Chinese. Communist Party forces North Korea. Now one, hundred, million people live free and South Korea guess what one of the most Christian nations on earth so the kingdom has because the United States of? America. Again on the first one to admit. I'm the first one to admit we've made plenty of mistakes, Vietnam, war mistake Iraq, war mistake. We have the Senate slavery. We're still trying to be able to move forward of all sorts of things, but I will not tolerate. A professional well-rehearsed pathological narrative that this country is an awful place. It's true. There's a waiting list to get into this country. There's a reason why there's thirty six million people trying to come right in the seat that you're in right now. There's a reason why three million legal black immigrants came to this country since one thousand, nine, hundred years despite challenges and difficulties. Legitimate prejudices that existed. It's still the best place for people of any skin color. Any language culture build exist in this country, and what ends up happening is that valid critiques quickly turned into Pathological Resistance, which then translates into hatred. So all of a sudden would turn into valid critiques which I. Share many in this country all of a sudden next thing I know five years. Later, the very same people that were offering valid critiques about the country where all of a sudden saying is places off said hold on a second five years ago you were just critiquing now you're trying to debase in disintegrate and that's that is a no go zone for me because if you do not have appreciation for gratitude for this beautiful. Gift that we have been given, which is this country which was divinely inspired by the way and Dodd was mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence four times laws in nature laws of nature and nature's God. We had four great awakenings in this country the first founded the second continued at the third borderline almost loudest to almost saved us from total disintegration a fourth at all of you are most familiar with the. Billy Graham great awakening a six, hundred, sixty seventies and eighties, which led so many people to Christ, which was the international waking which made that one so unique and so look the failure to acknowledge understand appreciate, defend this gift. I'm afraid we'll be one of the most regrettable suicides ever of country to exist has never before have so many people had it so good that wanted to stop. It's amazing do so when you look At this particular juncture, you know everything so. SORT OF POLAR POLAR POLARIZED What do you say to the to the to the sun or the to the Christian says I'm just GonNa sit this one out. I just. Yeah I mean. I got the there I just exercise my right to sit this one out i. mean you absolutely have a right to do something foolish? No doubt. That is. Constitutionally protected right in this country it is now and that's what's so beautiful out liberty is you can make a fool of yourself right as long as you're not harming somebody else. Right which is what was always the number one case for reopening the church from us like you're not going to force people to come could still live stream it allow the people that want to come they build a dot come right? That's the whole idea of liberty is you cannot have liberty without responsibility liberty without responsibilities called indulgence. Okay. Just, basically, I'm going to do whatever feels good and not actually take responsibility for everything in life has a cost everything does. So what what do I say about that? I would just challenge it. I'd say look first of all if you're. People say I don't want to vote and I just kind of laugh. I'm like have you waited ten minutes in a Dunkin donuts or starbucks line and you're willing to do that. You're not allowed to just go and mark a couple boxes that better reflect your worldview and say Every single person running as a center let me just be very clear. The person running from. Dogcatcher to city council the State Rep the Senate to the president like one hundred percent centers. One hundred percent depraved. One hundred percent need Jesus. Not all of them reflect the biblical, world? Doodo. and. So find one that best fit. Some of them will be like Oh kind of a tough federal, incongruent. Okay and ask advice. So he got pastors, Right. So why you have elders while you've mentor, you're confused awesome. You should be because it's kind of confusing out there. So, why do to podcasts they want Saturday one on? Sunday and soon to be a national radio show, I tried to make clarity out of the clouds try to have some people make sense of all the incoming and. I don't do a perfect job, but we do a pretty good job right and so I guess I guess the argument the only argument you could be to have to not vote is you really have no care whatsoever about what happens next. and. So if you're here, you're probably not a nihilist and if you are welcomed the church. Seriously and so that's fine by the way but don't do that. I mean come on every single person here should vote and I'm going to make suggestion of how to vote if you want that's fine but I'm not gonNA say. No. It's very personal thing you might have your own reason say you're wrong condemn you're all those sorts of things. But if you're a little uncomfortable and I don't like it, that's just evidence that we gotta talk about these things more. You have to have more of these dialogues more of these discourses right and if there's only one issue for a Christian you should vote on and this is the one that I just think is just so obvious is just like when does life begin? Like when does life begin right and? There's so I mean, I believe that if you cannot agree that life begins at a specific moment of the fertilization of the egg and that maybe there's something wrong with sixty one, million abortion since ROE versus Wade. Then I'll just. You're right and I say look. What do you do for those? That can't defend themselves. And that's kind of the whole Christian doctrine right which is that we're supposed to stand up for the innocent and I get a lot of the other issues can be messing up and try to make sense of those some of those issues because they take nuance and take data. This one I don't think is actually that complicated. I understand it could be very emotive. I didn't think it could be very personal I. Think the Church has to do a much better job of adoption much better job of counseling people who made that decision and a much better job of not making that decision the enemy at all because I believe they were deceived by people that knew a lot better saw the first one to say that however. I I think it's an awful thing that sixty million souls never got the chance to experience birthdays. Breath is beautiful air that we have. And I think that we should do something about that. In fact, I think we as Christians now have an opportunity to do something like that and whether you came tonight, you're like I didn't really WanNa hear about this tonight while you are and Amy conybeare. It is now nominated the Supreme Court so for the first time in anyone's lifetime in this room there, no one old enough that can say you had an opportunity to do something about the end termination of innocent life in this country have an opportunity to do it, and if it's not your DNA quite honestly it's not your choice it's not just it's a, it's a sovereign. Being that will never happy created again or those unique former deoxyribonucleic acid that is created at that moment that still science can explain put the Bible can we are made in his image I? Knew you before you're in the wound that that is made for a specific purpose and reason, and we as believers have a moral obligation to do everything. We can to protect those that cannot protect themselves. Real, quick on that point you what you just described as, but is getting a little bit confused today. The Difference Between Biblical, Justice Like the real defense of the defenseless and social justice. Social justice sounds great. In, the same way that. You sound great in the same way that women's rights sounds great and just for me to even touch on any of those automatically these days puts me in a position of will you don't? You don't champion women's rights you you don't like your your against black lives you. Look on go. What you just described would be the micro six eight. What does God require of you to do justice to do? Justly, we have a unique opportunity right now as the church in this particular issue of abortion. But what about? So you got this social justice. And Justice, which are really really murky in the minds of a lot of church people in Church leaders talk. I'll be happy to build that out and I will just on the women's rights thing half of all abortions statistically where women. So thirty million women are not on this earth because of what we did with Roe versus Wade. So let's just be honest that if you're for women's rights than wealth thirty, million women aren't living because of rovers is white. So I don't understand that you be on the side of women with that secondly just kind of building out that. Kind of idea of justice in what we do about it look justice is supposed to be blind and that's what at least earthly justice and that's the idea of Lady Liberty having a cloth over her eyes or the idea of justice is supposed to be deliberative with the idea of cross examination of witnesses with the idea that you must have done something that you must have done something worthy of being cross examined impossibly. Being held accountable for that. So the there is a very interesting thing, social justice, environmental justice in racial justice, none of which are biblical they're not. There's just justice in the is of immense. Let me just be very clear that when you start to pick and choose these different types of justice none of that is supported at all by the Gospel. Now, let me be very clear though that we are all called individually. To go forth into the world and to feed the hungry and to take care of the sick and to nurture the disadvantaged and I think we sometimes inflates an individual mandate to do that and governmental and civic one. In fact, I would go further and say. Some of the well intentioned public policy programs that have been passed over the last sixty five years have hurt. The very people that were designed. It was actually trying to help. And let's just go back to the issue of abortion. The black birth rate stagnated as soon as roe versus Wade was passed. Blacks are about fourteen percent of the population in our country, and they still were back when Roe versus Wade was passed. In New York City. If you see a black woman on the subway, it's a higher likelihood she's heading for the abortion clinic than for the delivery room the black abortion rate is higher than the black birth rate. It's kind of stunning. Truly the black population in this country is about fourteen percent half of that a seven percent half of that is infant. Bearing age about three three and a half percent at the black community comprises forty eight percent of all abortions in this country. The idea of planned parenthood Margaret Sanger the original. Author of abortion was EUGENICIST. He was in avowed racist is look it up yourself. She wanted to have population control against black and brown communities. So I grow fatigued with this argument somehow you're perfectly okay with five hundred, million dollars of our taxpayer dollars going to plan parented every single year. Meanwhile, the black birth rate remains stagnant. The black follows snus rate is at seventy seven percent. So I guess the question is, what do we do to try to help people because we should we wanNA help people right what's the best way to help people? Thankful. We actually have some data right God gave us a heart and a brain reason and revelation together. Let's look at the data. We did a lot through taxpayer funding to try to help disadvantaged communities. Post the Great Society at passed in the nineteen sixties over twenty trillion dollars have been spent in the urban cities of our country trying to abolish the war on poverty. Did we win no poverty one in fact, we subsidize bad behavior and we reinforced bad incentives. The follows the fatherless-ness rate in the black community of the passage of the Great Society Act was twenty, two percent out seventy, seven, percent seventy, seven percent of black children in this country will will be. Raised, without a stable father in the home that means gang membership increase crime rates will increase prison recidivism will increase literacy rates will go down in that cycle that all of us understand and know will only explode. It wasn't just the black community and the white communities across the country follow us now about above forty percent the divorce rate is plus fifty percent. It's not just one group that this is focused on but urban areas in particular, it was more it's been more. So the question is, what do we do to help people? Will I truly believe the best way to help people, and this is a biblical principle as empowerment education is being able to give people the idea that you're actually a lot tougher than you think. That you can actually endure a lot more suffering. Than you might have convinced yourself of that with the proper empowerment, the proper values, the proper. Character that you can achieve a lot on this earth and yeah, it's GonNa be hard. It's going to take a lot of difficulty you're gonNA you're going to encounter a lot of. Opposition also actually don't think that continually getting another twenty trillion dollars in stuff, which is what we did since the nineteen sixties is GonNa make anyone richer in fact, it hasn't. The black community per average per capita is poorer today than it was before we spent twenty trillion dollars in the urban city. What are we? What are we spend the money on Mount? We spent the money by subsidizing Bad Behavior Single Motherhood is subsidized by federal government or if you're a single mother, you get more, you get you get more money from the federal might sound like a good idea. We want to help single mothers but only incentivizes bad behavior even further, the things that we should focus on more is, are we able to educate children properly in this country and the answer is absolutely no are public sector the public? Sector? System in our country's in absolute outrage destroy disgrace. Our public schools are moral travesty and a lot of it is because the public sector teacher unions that all of it is because of that, but plays a huge role in the second is the disintegration of the family. So we should say we WANNA cut follow this rate in half in the next five years Nigga Moonshot goal what is it GonNa take? Well, it's GONNA take. I'll. I'll handle this side for young fathers out there. You impregnated a woman you abandoned your coward, you take responsibility for your life. And you don't all of a sudden abandoned, the woman that has a child and you act as if that's okay because they'll get government benefits young men need to learn to take responsibility for their actions. In this country, they need to be able to control themselves need to teach our children self control not self esteem when you mean much more clear with young men that. and. So the idea of social justice I think actually has. Kind of a tender heartedness in the approach I think some people watch some good in the world is see some good in the world first of all you? You in body exact who want to see happen in the world. I I laugh because I deal with this a lot on college campuses and this is just a stereotype. It's absolutely true where these guys that are completely disheveled haven't showered in a couple of weeks. They're coming up telling me that everything's wrong in the world first of all. First of all, it is a biblical concept starts to the South and Family Been Church Community State Federal Nation, right? It goes from that progression, and finally if we can get our act together enough, we can deal with the world my goodness. However. I think that was kind of lost this idea of what does the Individual Journey look like? What does it mean especially for young men and we've hyper feminist our country and there's a war on men in this country which does not good for men. It's not good for women. It's bad for everybody and it's resulting in many unintended consequences and I'm happy to build that out even further. But basically it's our retry school system. We have a culture that tries to create young people that are more likely to be able to endure suffering and become tougher people or more likely to point out the injustices and be better at complaining. So we've creating better complainers or tougher people. The answer should always be tougher people. Because life is a really. Suffering filled place just as the Buddhist principle is life is suffering I think that's probably not exactly biblical, but it's close that no, it's that's the first universal Buddhist principle. And Probably First Time Buddhism got mentioned this church quite a time. It is actually yeah. Yeah. Very clear. I'm not a Buddhist. Progression. That's the first universal Buddhist principles that life is suffering. Things are awful. Okay. What are you? GonNa do about it you kind of have two choices you can engage in this kind of Nihilistic self-indulgent. Awful way of thinking or you can say, yeah, I'm actually a center. I'm not enough no matter how tried Kinky to Get I can't check enough boxes. I need Jesus. Christ onboard new and then you also say my goodness that also means I. GotTa Start Taking Responsibility for my I am bore in new I've that connection to Christ what I do matters how I act matters every word that I say is a reflection of the gift I've been given, which is Jesus Christ, and then that's why and tell the truth because Christ is truth right I'm GonNa embody that and I think we've kind of lost this and especially with young people that are living in this very. Missile leading kind of pool of just just your just keep on doing whatever substances you want just keep staring at the screen and kind of keep your digital pacify right next to you, and somehow you're going to find happiness, which is what I call smartphones, digital PASA fires by the way they are. I can't get away from it. I can't get away from it and happy to build that out services at. And by the way if you're interested in every service is different, I have to say this is completely different. Right which is fun right. But what? kind of what it gets back to in I can't remember the question why we're we're talking. That's I. Know We're having fun. Yeah exactly. All right. We'll come back. You left us a lot of great things there. Let's go. That's come back. So I have I have. We kind of started with just the why would why should we talked about abortion? There are some issues right now that are sort of pressing that should matter to every child of God and he may are on the line in this particular they're always but in this particular election so build out a couple more and then you are a bit of A. You are a supporter of our president. Yes. and. A whole bunch of people or not. But I would like to. Our No. I'm doing what you do. Typically go all over the place. Just. When my question, this is my question. Because I want to I want to talk about some of the issues that should matter to us then I'd like to talk about. Your particular. Perspective on what it is that we've actually seen like to talk about what it is that we've seen with this current president, the difference between intention. Intention like this. Versus, an actual you've got intention versus versus actually there's a track record. Now we can take a look at it and go. Well, what can we expect? As we go forward. I know what you're going to be much more blunt. So Look and just. I'm GONNA give you all trigger warning. Just. Permission be provocative if you're offended like your awful located in just whatever your church, right? Okay. So I'm GONNA give you. I'm GonNa give you ten things. A friend of the president please pray for him regardless or political affiliation. He's fighting a virus right now that is a very real thing and you might hate him. You might think he's the worst thing in the world. I've had the opportunity him the last four years and I do publicly support him I'm GonNa give you ten things though that every Christian should know about president trump and what he's done that reflect the biblical Worldview and many of which you might not know. So start with number one most pro-life President American history, right I, president. I president to speak at the march for life slash planned parenthood funding rescinded the Mexico City policy, which is no more international funding of abortion. has been outspoken about life beginning at conception has also appointed Gorsuch cavenaugh. We'll get to that in an a second and also amy conybeare most pro-life present American history number to Israel every Bible believing Christian should care about the state of Israel. President trump. Has just signed one of the most unbelievable miraculous peace deals and the history how geopolitics between Israel and the you know you might hate him but you gotTa love this deal. You might not like his style, but you better love this deal because he has brought the minorities and the Arab world to the table, and they signed a peace deal with God's chosen people which. We are told them the word of God, the Jews the State of Israel. Move the embassy to Jerusalem recognized Golan Heights kept the Palestinian Authority and check rescinded the Iran deal and finally for the first time in a couple of decades, we now have the most peaceful atmosphere between the state of Israel and the Arab world which was told to be impossible it's something where the. Number three judges. Whole book about judges don't we we believe that fair and correct interpretation of the law is a biblical principle mount. You want it to say that what you it should say but what does the law say that we find that in the Bible Right Two hundred circuit court judges the most ever since George Washington has been confirmed to the Federal Bench under President Donald Trump many of these people are God fearing many of these people will defend life and they do defend the right for religious liberty and for Christians to assemble. Also, gorsuch cabin on on a third, the trifecta Amy Coney Barrett that will contest for first principles and yes the fight for life. Four thing we believe in second chances, right? That's part of the whole idea of redemption. President Donald Trump signed the most historic and transformed a prison reform in our country's history called the first step back a lot of people don't know this happen, but it wasn't the Democrats. It wasn't Barack Obama. He signed the first step back a year and a half ago sang. People that have these very long life sentences not life sentence but multi decade sentences and they've proven good behavior good credit system. They've earned the goodwill of the prison guards and it's obvious that they are ready for re entry there should be a way to do that eighteen hundred prisoners that were never given a second chance at life have been successfully rendered into society using the first step back under president trump, many of whom are black and Brown people in our country. That's president trump many people. Don't know that for fifty. We love our veterans and those people that have served in our military and we should it is something the ultimate sacrifice to bleed in to die for America President Trump signed the VA accountability act to give better health care to our veterans forty years they talked about it. He finally delivered it. It was historic being able to fire bad people the Veterans Affairs, and finally the the the delivery of care is going up tremendously number six the right to try out with. That terminal disease is one of the hardest things for us to be able to reconcile as believers. A lot of things that we just struggle with right and like how could a child be given a tumor that is just not able to be treated for years. The pharmaceutical companies were trying to Washington DC to be able to pass something called. The right to try out were people that have terminal diseases. They've been given a death certificate are able to try drugs that would be deemed more risky. What's a better patient to try it on an actual human being before president trump's someone was not able to use these drugs. You got everyone in a room together got rid of the liability measure and people real life stories that I have met by their lives saved due to the right to triax pass under. President, trump pretty extraordinarily believable number seven the tax reform act the biggest middle class tax cut in American history which include an expansion of the working mothers, tax cut and yes. Paid family leave. I think that we as conservatives and Christian I. Don't know if you're conservative we as Christians make it easier to have children in our country. It's a biblical principle. It wasn't. Obama. Wasn't a Democrats who was President Trump that signed paid family leave for eight weeks that you can borrow or take from your Social Security Memphis money, which is a very, fiscally sound way to do it and say I, want to be able to have children. I want to be able to be with my children for a couple of months paid family leave. A lot of people even know this exists life was i. didn't know that that's interesting. Number eight probably one of the least appreciated things that happens on the landscape but president trump has reasserted American sovereignty. For decades we have eroded America's wrote a role in the world kowtowing to international organizations such as NATO, such as the United Nations such as the World Trade Organization, and basically eroding America's role in the world retreating from those reasserting first principles and the Constitution has resulted in a lot of these sinister and secular internationalist globalist forces being confounded that all the sudden America next choices for America number nine prior to the shutdown, we experienced the greatest economy in world history and I don't care. I don't care about finance might care about this six million black people got off food stamps and into meaningful work under president trump is that's a good thing off of government assistance onto self-reliance mutiple. That all of a sudden that they didn't have to look for governments for their next paycheck but they had a paycheck or for some form of government or financial assistance the fifth and the tenth thing I should say ten things that Christians should care about is, of course, he has gone out of his way to surround himself with people of faith. He's unapologetic to speak at churches. He serves with an outspoken faith Mike Pence. He has people pray over him every single day. I acquaint him and a lot of different ways sentence can be confusing for people. How can a three times married twice divorced playboy from New York Sunshine says things like I don't like that be the most pro-life president surrounding the people of faith stand with Israel. How does that work? Of course, God is going to work in a way that confuses you that's called Samson Cyrus King David. Like let's just get used to this right. And I will say this. Let's use the Sampson example. He's favorite I can't. I can't go to your children's ministry number. Right next door. And teach the story of Samson without some sort of edits. God came. To Samson twice while he was with a prostitute other stop there. Samson could tested. For Truth. And eventually God. Came to him in the later Forman's life and he earned a part in the hall of faith that we all know in Hebrews. So this idea that he's a bad guy I don't like him say. So what does what does he contending for? He's contending for the rights of the unborn for Israel he's continuing its child sex trafficking, which would be a nice eleventh on that list doing more to end the scourge of child sex trafficking in our country than any other president in our history hundred million dollars has got reallocated ending child sex trafficking on our southern border. So look I, get it as Christians and might be a very blunt thing. I'm not trying to turn this into a political rally. But under stand those are eleven very clear differences right there and I don't act I'm not saying that puzzle piece should fit perfectly but does it fit better? Does that align better with your worldview with what you WanNa see that happens right in the world and finally I'll say this I'm evangelical Christian from the suburbs of Chicago. then. Go to college. There's no reason why someone like president trump would take me seriously but I've been with them on Air Force One. I've been with him in the Oval Office and every human being that comes up to him as a subject matter expert. He, I'll never forget someone was coming up with a diet coke to him and he turns any says. So what are you hearing? And I started. Say Not you you? Guys. Bring the DIKO. Said, what do you mean? What are you hearing on the ground? What's big? What's happening today like Mr President I don't know how to answer is like tell me? I. WanNa know and say, well, it's healthcare's the biggest issue and they had this discussion. And I saw this repeated time and time again I saw this a man who lived his entire life or he believed every person out there possesses one piece of wisdom that he needs to know. And they say he's the least Tumblr, all these things whatever you can accuse him for Braggadocio and all that I'm not getting into it. But. This is a guy that I've seen personally firsthand. That has learned more from carpenters, electricians, and welders than the ruling class in this country has gotten so much. So wrong the last couple of decades. I think he gets so missed portrayed in our media I think he gets so misrepresented. And this is a man that has just been persecuted and assailed and is now obviously going through a health trial that none of us would have possibly expected and so he's my friend. I'm honored to call him a friend and I'm also able to say that this man has done more for the priority list of evangelicals are for Christians more so than any other president in my lifetime. True. Any other issue there that you'd say those ten you've got the eleven with the eleven. Yeah. The other you say. A. Sort of sort of yet can I can I add like a twelfth sure which is more like a opposing right? which is I mean there's a growing socialist movement in this country and socialism violence out of the Ten Commandments Thou shall not steal now shall not covet. And Look Socialism has only been tried one hundred times in the last hundred years resulting at one hundred million people dead. If only, we had more of a test case name a continent, any cotton accent article I could tell you how it sailed right everywhere. It's been tried it failed because it it goes it goes completely at odds with how God made us. God made us. In a certain way. And then we fell from that we've original sin. So we believe human beings in the state of nature where nasty brutish and short to each other Thomas Hobbes articulated. It's the best in a book called the Leviathan where you saw the English civil war, he agreed with John. Calvin. On this, it's where you get the cartoon Calvin and Hobbes from where it's kind of kind of dark humor almost throughout the entire cartoon question is this is Should one person have a lot of power? Without any sort of checks and balances. No we said that's obvious right? It's not so obvious to a lot of other people. It's not because the idea of socialism. Is Not is not the workers own means of production that never actually happens we operate in hierarchies. Right we know this the ultimate hierarchy is God over humanity and gave us a chance to be able to connect to him through his son but also there's hierarchies of brute force. That happened here in the earthly domain. And if it if you end up with a socialist example, you're like well I think grace healthcare should be run by government. Who exactly would you trust with that decision? Can you give a name and face to that and what if the abuse that power? And the question in Malta skew talked about this, the best one of the top architects of the American system of governance use a French judge only good guy ever Frangieh some good ideas. Almost all bad ideas pumped from France except not Stewart and he he said it so well, he said. If. You wouldn't trust a random person on the side of the street with absolute power than decentralize it. That's a great way to put it to see you know government. You should have checks and balances the first one to say that. In a socialist type example where you say we're gonNA take the weapons. We're going to nationalize the healthcare. We're going to administer all educational decisions. Of course, that power is going to be abused. It's one of the most obvious things for both of us that know how human beings are hardwired and Lord Acton said at the best absolute power corrupts absolutely and. So what President Trump? He's firewall against that kind of governmental totalitarian power grab and if you're a Christian, you say that doesn't affect me the churches always primary target number one choice. They will always go after the church and if you just want to talk about it from spiritual plan, do you notice how they almost have a pathological obsession with the church? That it's no other data ring. It's nothing else is always the church, the believers at bother them the most right. It's the most like provocative. That's always making fun of arsim biology, right? It's always the rap songs or the curse words that always must make our savior be condemned notice that it's not ever Allah it's always Jesus. It's because that is just that struggle that we know is going to exist of good versus evil of light versus dark, and so if you give power to these people, the church is on the chopping block. Leave us with a bit of a slam when Fast Yeah we did. Good. Leave us. You did at the last service and I've heard you talk about this before and it just it's it's an appropriate high note. Mike conviction. Instead, what we face isn't just political isn't just ideological it's darkness. It's sinful evil and that there is a particular role that only the church can play because we happen to be those that are actually filled with one greater than that evil filled with God Almighty filled with the Holy Spirit so we are that deterrent. Or not. But as you look on, you travel the country, you're on college campuses you are beginning to have more meetings like this, and you've said something you're recently that I, I it sort of resonates with my heart in that is to you as it relates to what's happening in our culture, the churches, a sleeping giant yesterday's if we can wake up if we can play our part then a great tide. Of Evil can be turned back and another generation and generations behind us, those of us that are raising little ones may have may see extraordinary extraordinary things. What kind of just baby steps towards like growing a little spiritual backbone standing up right now in the stark edge gives us a couple of just sure practical things to go. I can go with this again go. Yes. So first of all I just want to. Kinda, just thank you guys for allowing this discussion. Happen just happened a lot of churches you guys might have disagreed everything I said, but at least you guys allowed it to happen to you internalize them process it, and that's what civil dialogue is all about. We are the speaking beings humanity is all about and that there's two ways to govern people you can cover them by speaking persuasion and talking or by force you can organize. Every government in one of those two buckets, and this is all about is trying to find the best ideas and a reason ourselves into being able to make good choices. So here's just kind of thought experiment some pastor say I don't like politics I don't WanNa get involved in all this. We talked about that earlier but some Christians say the same and so then the question that is needs to be asked is what is your lineman? What is your? Line. If you don't have a line that you will not get involved in politics, then just openly admit it. But you should have a line if not. Now, when will you speak out against something like what? What when will it bother you enough Because? Good is really hard to find in the world. Evil is not. And there's a lot of it. And so I guess the question is if you're born new in Christ and you are a Bible believing Christian. When will you speak out against some of the moral decay you see around you need to say you know what? Not Right now but I'll speak out when the railcar show. Late So. Okay. That's your line. Right got because that's happening in other countries across the world just you know. And not I don't deal in hyperbole. We have a whole track record of this or all all speak out when they say I can't own a gun. Okay got. The idea like if not now then I ask wine and of course, the reason I really ask is I'm challenging you right because you all know the moment is now. You know it deep down you know in your heart of heart that no matter what kind of small reasoning you might have been giving you know that this is actually the moment. And what's so troubling if you guys want to see how dark human beings can go when good people do nothing read the Gulag Archipelago. Every young person in America should read the Gulag. Archipelago. It is one of the most horrifying. Indictments of humanity. Now, we kind of have this feel-good Christianity movement in the country where like everyone's actually a good person deep down I don't have that view I. Don't I don't mean to be like dark about it actually think it's a really good thing because that shows the necessity for Christ, right but we can do awful things to each other. We can and I I am traveling the country speaking at churches from Maine to Signal Hill California all across the country saying this is that moment where? As Alexander Solzhenitsyn set in the Gulag archipelago the pastor is in the Soviet Union said it's okay if they put those. Ten percent of people away we don't mind. And You saw exactly what having only forty two million people were murdered and killed and look it. It really is a question of what does the Church at Cassia the gathering of believers. What do you do when you see something wrong That's the question, and so I know the answer for me right up dedicate my whole life to this. And I'm traveling the country speaking of persuading were communicating. We're doing I'm trying to trying to get people to dive deeper. So people say, what can you do? Can I give some application? The most important thing you can do. is to learn. Learning is always a precedent for an awaken always. So, if there's something that confuses you you live in the greatest time in human history to learn it. So few people choose to do it and you have a supercomputer and your right hand pocket with every answer to some sort of like philosophical question. You know make sure your sources are good but there's plenty of good ones out there but also. Make sure it's rooted in Biblical wisdom. No kind of you know if it may be, I, don't believe freedom of speech should matter like okay. Then I can recommend five things that you can go look at learn every Christian needs to heighten their sense of knowledge about the world around them because sometimes churches are steeped in Biblical literacy but they are vacated any sort of philosophical understanding of what we're contesting against of civil government and you guys are doing this. You're civics class, which is awesome. And Christians should be unafraid to be kind of masters and understanding of all sorts of different pieces and how because it can be very confusing for the second thing is activity. For young parents out there I highly encourage home schooling. I'm a huge fan of home schooling. We should support our home schooling parents there. In future services, we're going to talk about college and Higher Education because I. Think we're running out of time. Sorry. You're likely to deduct. The final thing is this is that we are a sleeping giant and if The. If the church woke up, only half of churchgoing Joel Christians in this country are registered vote only half of them actually vote. So one fourth of all Evangelical Church going Christians actually vote in presidential elections even lower that midterm elections. So every single person there should vote and you should vote most aligned with your biblical world. I've made it clear what that actually is but more than that, it's a republic. It. This country is disintegrating around. You guys. It is do something about it get engaged run for office get petitions contest for truth challenge deceitfulness when you see it, right do it with love compassion but nevertheless find find the people that might be misinformed and lead them to the ultimate source of remember it's liberty is not man's idea. It's God's idea in the final final thing will say is this is Take the education of your children very seriously Because right now, they are the primary target of deceitfulness and of darkness. Educate the children in the ways of truth, and I'll tell you I'm dedicated my life to this visiting churches across the country and campuses would a beautiful opportunity we have everybody we live in very interesting times. Rise up engage and do something about it man. Thank you guys so much for listening. If you want to support turning point USA Teepee USA, DOT, com teepee USA DOT COM to get engaged, get involved. We play off into the sense of urgency to win America's culture war. 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'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills with Jack Hibbs

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1:32:21 hr | 6 months ago

'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills with Jack Hibbs

"Hey everybody just a couple of days ago. I was in calvary chapel chino hills speaking with the great jabs about a lot of stuff happening in our country. Including where do we go from here. What are the action steps. We need to take the boxes. I need to check. We go through that. Including what does the bible say about times like this. My friend jack. Hibs one of the most courageous clear an amazing pastors in the country hosted me generously again at his church chapel chino hills. Thank you guys for allowing our staff and our team to be able to do what they do. Charlie kirk dot com slash support jakobsen. I chat about a lot buckle up. Everybody action packed episode. Here we go charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe charlie kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have charlie. Charlie kirks running the white house folks. I wanna thank joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building. 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A Biblical Case Against BLM with Pastor James Kaddis

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43:33 min | 10 months ago

A Biblical Case Against BLM with Pastor James Kaddis

"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Hey everybody happy Sunday today with a special treat for you pastor Calvary Chapel. Signal. Hill James Qadis, very good. Friend of mine that I spoke church about a month ago is here on the Charlie Kirk Show James's family is originally from Egypt he has some very important takes on. BLM. Incorporated critical race theory and president trump you are gonNA love The Sunday episode if you guys really enjoy keeping these Episodes advertiser free and you enjoy the twelve episodes plus that we give you guys a week. Please consider supporting us at Charlie Kirk Dot com slash support, and on this Sunday please continue to pray for president trump and his family as he fights the Chinese corona virus again. Thank you guys for supporting us at Charlie Kirk. Dot Com slash support please e mail us your questions freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com Freedom Charlie Kirk Dot com. If you guys want to win a signed copy, The New York Times bestseller the Maga- doctrine type in Charlie Kirk show to your podcast provider hit subscribe and give us a five star review. James says he everybody with our special Sunday episode made possible by supporters. Charlie Kirk Dot com slash support buckle up everybody. Here we go. Charlie what you've done is incredible here maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have charlie. Charlie run the White House. I want to thank Charlie's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA, not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey everybody. Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk. Show so thrilled to be joined by a dear friend of Mine Pastor James. Cadiz. Pastor I've only known you for a couple of months now and an awesome. I met you at Pastor Jacob's Church Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, and you're you're you're just awesome. You have a great energy about yourself and you invited me to come speak at Signal Hill Calvary Chapel Signal Hill. We did three services together. We spent the whole day together. It was so much fun and we. Immediately connected, and then I started to really listen to what you're saying I love this guy and you you were saying what I have been wanting more pastors say my pastor rob McCoy has been leading the charge up in thousand oaks you're also under attack. So Pastor James Introduce yourself first to the audience you are the Pastor Calvary Chapel Signal Hill, but you've a pretty awesome testimony. Yeah you know God is so faithful. So as you said, my name's James on the senior pastor of Cava Chapel Signal Hill my mom and my dad were both born and raised in Egypt. Have quite a heritage behind me because my grandfather. So my dad's father was a pastor in Egypt for sixty five years and not a Coptic pastor. We're talking a Presbyterian pastor. So he knows what persecution looks like. My Mom's father was in the same boat thirty, five years as a Baptist pastor in Egypt. So neither of them were the traditional. Christians at tend to be in that neutral position in Egypt, I'm first generation born in this country. Obviously. I was born being able to speak my parents native language. I was always taught to love the United States of America, my mom and my dad. Loved has always had a love for America and and they raised me up in the ways of the Lord and so you know I, wasn't one of these guys. It had some crazy pass or anything like that. But I can tell you that when God got a hold of my heart. He Changed Pretty radically and very much like you Charlie I got involved serving. Lord at a really young age and I consider what you do a great ministry. You travel around and in many of the same circles that I do. But the difference here with you is at God has blessed you on a national level and actually on an international level where you're doing a lot of things and at a very young age you started you started my goodness what are you twenty six now you started. Going, you're probably even fifteen fourteen years old you started earlier than me and when I got saved I got saved at sixteen years old I've been teaching the Bible now for twenty seven years and It's it's been a tremendous blessing. It's been an honor and we have a national radio show where we're all over the country and God has been able to for whatever reason, and I still will never understand it used this platform to be able to teach people to love God first right love their families, and of course, I've always had a great love for our country, which is why I absolutely love you and I've been. So that's why I think we've become very kindred. For that very reason why you speak out boldly unapologetically, I love your Youtube Channel by the Also, and so let's get right into it and that was a phenomenal introduction. You're under accusations by some people saying pastor should not be involved in politics. What do you have to say about that? I think it's actually immoral I. I'll go as far as to say, it's actually disgusting. Let me just simply say this to any pastor who would say that those of us that are Christians and especially church leaders pastors should not be involved in politics. Let me ask you this question. What other areas of my life do you want me to compartmentalize away from? God, what other area of my life do you want them to create an exclusionary clause with respect to how I carry myself? What other areas of my life do I not apply my Christian worldview and I think that that's those are questions they need to be held to answer because those don't answer that question truth be told honestly they need to really consider. Whether or not they should be in the ministry because my view is this. If you choose not to get involved in the political arena especially in an environment like the one that we're in today, you forgive me for saying this, you are complicit you are complicit in the evil that chooses to propagate itself and make no mistake about it the evil that is in. On this earth and in this country right now is a nefarious absolutely calculated attempt to destroy that which belongs to God and human beings who are walking. With God we are guardians of freedom. We have an obligation to speak up about these things and we have an obligation to stand up for righteousness it staggering to me that the same people that will condemn me. For this are the same people that will stand for things like critical race theory and will actually say, Hey, listen black lives matter. I don't believe in Black Lives Matter Inc but I believe in the statement will if you believed the statement, why aren't you defending the fifteen hundred black babies that are being killed every day? Why aren't you defending the blatant racism? that. Exists every single day with respect to the fact that we have a system that continues to propagate the mindset within the Democratic Party of continuing to say, Hey, listen black people you have no responsibility. It's okay. Let's think for you. Let us take care for you. Let let us take care of you. Let us speak for you. We don't care about the fact. That the family is is falling apart as a matter of fact, we'll stand behind infrastructures that say we want to dismantle things like the nuclear family or I don't even know what they mean when they say the Western prescribed nuclear family and what Western prescribed means but anyway, it's it's it's pretty offensive if you ask me so pastor your outspoken and a lot of. Our listeners right now, they tune into our Sunday episodes as this is being aired and they have a lot of pastors that are afraid right now, your church is fully open no social distancing no masks you still offered on the radio people want it right livestream. That's right. So you offer that with Liberty Responsibility, right? You Trust your congregation and make the right choices. You have a little bit of a tussle with the LA health. Department. We have to get into that if you don't want to but you're standing you're speaking out and so what do you say though to Apac, some pastors are saying and get these messages all the time they say Christians right now must stay out of the political realm. It's messy. It is dirty. It is not biblical get these messages pastor and again I I am not a pastor I'm a political guy and author and all these things that is a Christian and then I go into the Christian world dot com and kind of say, Hey, guys. Can you help us out over here? You know because we're fighting and contesting for you and I have to say about that because so many Christians out there are being misled by their pastors. What we're shepherds as pastors, we are called by God to be under shepherds and is under shepherds. We get our hands dirty for our sheep. You know one of the things that we're called to do. His work called step in front of an stepped forward so that our sheep will not only be fed. Be Educated understand but we're called the put our necks out for them and the problem is this. We talk about the stats and I've I've heard you say this many times I'm a believer in the facts I'm a believer in the truth, necessarily a believer in the emotions and so on and so forth and this is a biblical principle emotions lie to US they lie to US every single time for the most part and what ends up happening when we adapt a philosophy in a mindset that says, I will be governing ruled by my. You see kind of nonsense that you're seeing in the streets right now, and so this is this is an absolute truth but one of the things that I think we've got to go back to is the fact that we as pastors need to put our faith into action. You see one of the things that I told my board and I made this clear to them A. Long. Time ago as I said, listen guys if I don't open up the doors to the church sooner than later and you know we never really closed our doors in the sense of, yes. We didn't allow people in the sanctuary for the first few weeks because we didn't really know what we were dealing with. It'd be the first four weeks or so but we did have service. In the parking lot. So and it was amazing I mean I gotTa tell you especially our Easter Sunday it was it was a sight to behold but the thing that I would say is this I would say that I and this is what I told my board I told my board I said look if I get to the point where I continue to keep my doors Closed my word will become mud to the people that I serve it. Here's the reason why because I have spent my whole life teaching them to trust in the Lord I, spent my whole life teaching them to not think about what it is that I can do in my own strength but to lean on the strength of God God gives us his word sometimes it does not. Completely check in with our emotional state at the time. But if we learn to ignore the emotions and seek out that which is good then we begin to see the hand of God come into fruition and a great way. Now, here's the question I would ask the pastors who continue to close the doors of their church. How in the world will you ever expect your people to trust? You late, right. How will you ever expect people to say, Hey, my pastor, he's a manifesto, he trusts in the Lord and for those that are going to churches were the doors are still being close I would simply say this I would beg you too fast. Pray sit down and make an appeal to your pastor if your pastor doesn't want to receive. Let me quote Rob McCoy vote. With your feet walkaway, go to a church that is open go to a church where things are happening because here's the problem right now, the greater problem that exists in society has absolutely nothing to do with the threat of Covet. Okay we already know that the CDC has has already told us this. We have six percent of the people that they say have died of covert actually died. Of covert alone. Everything else has been something else and I'm not even going to talk about the scientific merits of this because the meritorious value of what I'm saying is something that really is undisputed with anybody that speaks the truth. The issue that I would much rather visit here centers around what really is going on in society listen Charlie fifteen hundred percent increase in suicidal ideation twenty five. percent of the kids that are out there are either thinking about suicide or actually committing suicide for the first time in the last three months listen. This is crazy in the last three months we have more kids that are dying of suicide that are under age thirty five. Then we'll die of the coronavirus virus and it's the same kind of nonsense that we choose to believe we're watching. A public health disaster. But that public health disaster has to do with the mental and and spiritual condition of the people that are out there and it goes along with the same lies that are being told right now in the age of what's going on with our law enforcement officers, all the the black man in the minority is being hunted right now. Oh, nationally, we're all being hunted. Let me tell you something. We lost way more black people in. Let me let me take this even further. Okay. I mean you've heard this you've heard the statistics. You don't even have to repeat this, but we lose way more black people in one day one day to abortion one day we lose more black people one day. Then we've lost in the last twenty, five years to law. Enforcement Interactions So what are we doing what what is it that I mean why is it that we are not being a proud to take a stand for the truth because people are suffering and suffering dramatically and tremendously we need to speak up concerning those things and and you're totally right. So pastor you are actually Egyptian descent. So therefore someone could call you African American is that is that's What is your stance on? INC The. Okay. So not that I believe identity politics. So I hate it. I hate everything that I am forty two but let me just simply say when you look at the black population, they are at best thirteen percent of this country. If you WANNA talk about minority okay I am less than one percent anybody who has any friendship with anybody who comes from? Egyptian. Descent understands the fact that it would be greatly offensive for you to go to. Somebody who's from Egypt and say, Oh, you're an audible. No, I'm not an Arab actually born in Egypt when my mom and dad are born in Egypt I come from a North African country. So everybody says I don't count because I'm from the Middle East or from our no. Actually I count because I, speak the truth. Okay. But putting all of that aside when when you talk about that Black Lives Matter Inc, they are perhaps one of. The most racist organizations alive besides the Democratic, party forgive me for saying that I know I'm going to get myself in big trouble by lots of people for saying that but they are extremely crude. These are people that stand for the destruction of the nuclear family listening they take it a step further. Here's something a lot of people don't hear about Lemme. Right you know how they make this big thing of Sagar. Name the person who dialed. Say their name say their name listen there are recordings you can find them out there know they're trying to erase their nasty history, but there are recordings out there of the founders I think it was patrice who said this one I don't remember which one of them but one of the founders actually saying that we say the dead people's name because it's a spiritual chant we are calling out their spiritual I forgot exactly how she couldn't it. Talked about the biblical definition of witchcraft. So we're we're saying, well, I don't believe in the I believe in the organization, but I believe in the name will give let me give you a piece of advice for those of you that don't believe in the organization and you. But yet you believe in the saying come up with different saying that expresses the value of all human allies black lives matter white lives matter everybody's lives matter, and it's something that we need to grasp as human beings because the very moment in this nation, we get to the point where we value one life over the other is the very moment we begin to see the furtherance of the kind. Of mechanisms that were deployed by Hitler to destroy a whole people and that's the same thing that we're seeing it in Beedi s I mean the members of the there's so many members of the House that believe in the boy cost the boycott divest sanctioned movement I. Mean we're seeing it everywhere and the racism is extraordinary and it's especially a joke when you see people that come from Moslem nations that are in the house right now and I can think a few of these girls that coming from a man who understands Islam very well, if they were to live in the countries in which they came from believing what they believe and even being a simple as putting. On their face and representing men in their country, they'd be murdered immediately immediately under the same Sharia law in. Islam, that they claim to defend in say is superior to our Constitution. It's a it's a fence and so. So much there. What do you have to say to churches that are engaging in this blm nonsense right now they say it's scriptural once they see its theological the southern baptist. Convention is embracing critical race theory. There are pastors that are telling their congregation I got an email right here pastor and I'll paraphrase it that they're telling their congregation that systemic racism is the greatest issue in America this is happening in our church's pastor make sense of this for us. It's evil. So it's again it's them embracing a culture in which they are seeking to become like the culture and feel relevant because they don't have enough faith in the true and living God a to establish what? Relevance should be in this culture, and that's a that we've got to go back and reiterate. As Christians, we have the obligation to shape the culture instead of allowing the culture to shape us and the whole a whole mindset in which people can get away with doing this spiritual leaders can get away with doing this comes from their desire to be accepted and to be relevant instead of to actually tell the truth because oftentimes, as you know when we tell the truth, there is a consequence for telling the truth and the consequence often. Times is yes. People will reject US people don't like us but here's the thing I want to be on the right side of history and so for people like the Southern Baptist Convention and by the way I'll say this right now I can I can tell you this from experience when big organizations like the Southern Baptist Convention make a statement like that they don't represent their constituency a good majority of their constituency disagree with those ridiculous assertions. Few, influential people that are in those circles. We'll do it so that they can create some kind of a weird adaptation to their to their political friends that they have where they can kind of keep their status quo. The problem is this the problem is, is they have to deny the truth completely they have become modern day and. That's exactly what they've become. They are they are walking away from the truth because the truth is this, our country didn't starting in sixteen nineteen our country was established in seventeen seventy six. The truth is that the constitution was a literal referendum. It was a little referendum on slavery. When we talked about the Democratic Party in the Republican Party goodness, the Republican Party was in essence an abolitionist movement. And when we talk about the purveyors of slavery, Let's talk about the sin of slavery for a second. How about we do this? I'll be able to get away I probably won't get it. They'll get mad at me for saying but it's true the number one purveyors of slaves back then were the same amount of purveyors of slaves that exist today it's the same group of people and it is. In many cases the Arab Muslim and people are not they're not they're not accepting at they're not looking about that. Go Go do some reading on the barbary coast spent some time looking at what reality is. Let's talk about what it is. Is Slavery a heinous sin our nation had to face and deal with absolute horse did it come at a great price? Yes. We lost more Americans over the. Issue of slavery almost a million Americans we lost so many Americans over the issue of slavery. Fighting. Brothers against brothers sisters against sisters, mothers against daughters and I mean, it was a horrible horrible period in our history but it was also a time that's reflective of an of an amazing group of people that wanted to see equality for all and yet we choose to deny it because we are becoming. History revisionists, and the reason why the far left is getting away with it is because the churches allowing in the church never allowed I promise you it would never happen I completely. Agree. So Pastor, can you dive into the theology of it gets scriptural for us because there's a lot of dealers into the center searching and at the end I do WanNa talk about the need for people to give their life to Christ we talk we try to do that at least once a week with different people belisce can you just debunk? When people say that the no, no Jesus Christ would be marching in the streets of Blm I hear this all the time. No? No I. Hear this. Tell US feel logically why B. L. AM critical race theory are anti biblical. Yet so it would be ally. Okay. First of all, be LMS anti-biblical at the core of what of what the Bible teaches us be starts becoming anti-biblical right at Genesis right? Because we hear. Read Genesis in the beginning. God. Created the heavens and the earth the earth was without form and void, and then he goes on to describe this beautiful manifestation of the artistic rendering of hand when he created the world. Okay. Then we get into God's construction of the family. Okay. He puts husband and wife together he tells husband and wife Hey be fruitful and multiply he creates the infrastructure of the family and the core values of. Ink is to tear it apart. Okay. The the. The function. One of the greatest functions of mankind that God built into them is to build up is to actually be be people who take something and imitate him. Right we were made in his like likeness image God created he molded and shaped listen. There's a reason why genesis one one says in the beginning concrete heavens and the earth, and then there's another reason why The declaration was made in verse two, and the Earth was without form and void. When you look at it in the Hebrew language, it's making a very simple declaration saying listen God is the one who created the heavens earth, and then in verse two, it says he then went onto artistically render his beauty with his hands molding and shaping creation into existence now that means. That God modeled for us what it looked like to actually create and to build and to be fruitful and to have dignity in our work and so black lives Matter Inc. their whole stated objective is to destroy that so that single mothers can be trained to fight as activists to destroy that which gets built. So their their core value comes against the scriptures right from. The get and for people who say that Jesus would if marched in the streets, it's an absolutely obscene an absurd thing to say the mechanism that drove Jesus was his understanding of mankind heart when Jesus responded to somebody when he spoke to somebody, Jesus never spoke to the circumstance see this is the thing that you got to understand when you go out right in the streets. The rioting in the streets seeks to speak to a particular circumstance as a matter of fact, it capitalizes on a particular circumstances. Something happens thus I go respond to Jesus never did that when Jesus went and spoke to somebody he had a circumstance be unveiled before he was watching something happened. But what he did was he analyzed the condition of the hearts of the people he was spoken spoke to and he ignored the circumstance and spoke straight to the heart. It was a model of truth think about the woman at the well, the woman wells asking them all kinds of questions who what do you think about this? What do you think about that and Jesus says go get your husband. Now. What in the world would? That didn't even make sense that where did that come from? Well, that woman would have known where that came from. She goes on to say well I. I really don't have a husband. Yeah you're right lady you don't have one you've had many in the one that you have right now is it your husband and then he begins to speak to the longing in her heart for a desire for something deeper that she's thirsty for that no man could ever be able to to address and as he spoke to that Her life was changed and you know what she did. She went forth and went to other people and didn't seek to destroy those people who lived the lifestyle that she used to live. That's not what she did. She didn't go to a far left tactic. You know what she did. She went to tell people about what Jesus did in her life. She went to tell people they were not obstacles to. Her they were opportunities for God to do something substantial in there. She said, Hey, look at what God did in my life and this is the story of what Jesus did. Jesus. Even did this while he was hanging on the cross if Jesus was a protester and a marcher why in the world would he allowed himself to be crucified on the Cross and while he was being crucified on the Cross? He looks over he tells a thief on the cross who is begging for some kind of semblance of peace in his heart. He says, Hey, today you're going to be with being paradise, and here's the thing that people don't understand, and this goes back to the to the mentality of Black Lives Matter Inc, and the mindset of Christianity as it relates to the Scriptures think this concept through for just a second. When Christ died on the cross for us, it was considered the ultimate sacrifice but here's the thing that people don't realize. He didn't go to the cross willingly. The fact that he went to the cross willingly is patently on Biblical. The Bible says that Jesus said Hey look my will be done but died will be done. Got It. There's anyway. Cup can pass. Let it pass. He clearly didn't want to go to the cross willingly clearly didn't want to go to the cross, but you know what? He didn't go to the cross willingly. Went to the cross obediently see, and that's the thing that we have to understand. Christ himself was the epitome of a man who demonstrate a not capitulating to the emotions of a human being and yet yielding to the obedience given to us stipulated in the scriptures by the father and he had senlis nature. Now he modeled us what that means. So if we want to listen to our emotions, what do we do black lives matter inc we got the streets we burn things down if we want to be obedient to our father we. Look at those things as opportunities and we seek to build Musique to build the only time. We're ever told TEAR ANYTHING DOWN AS CHRISTIANS is to tear down the evil flesh that dwells within us because we are born in a condition of total depravity, right? The old man died was crucified with Christ were reconciled again, unto him in newness of life, and that's why this whole movement is. So Patently Biblical and that's why it is so evil to see these pastors capitulating to this wicked mindset and that's a great way to put it that. tells us to create on Earth not tear down on earth that's very inside. Right. Point to theologically can you break part some of this new left movement that's trying to intersect with Christianity were say Jesus would have been a Marxist Jesus was a socialist where where are they wrong there Okay. Well I can. I can end it with just one simple statement. Okay. If Jesus was a socialist and Jesus would have been a Marxist Jesus would have never said, render unto Caesar's what is Caesar's and give unto Dods, which is God's there's no way he would have done that. There is no way that Jesus would have submitted to the governing authorities as they subjected him to everything that led him to the cross. So Right away we can throw that mindset right to the curb. There's absolutely no room for making an argument like that because Jesus himself spoke against those types of things. Completely, right. The tenets of Marxism and the tenants of socialism completely void ourselves of any kind of dependency upon God or any religious infrastructure as a matter of fact I think it was marks who said that religion is the opium of the people and if you really think about it, you you look at the tenants by which Christ taught us to live. Everything that Christ taught us to live was completely antiseptically opposed to that which Marxism stands for Marxism separates us from accountability with our Creator Marquesa separates us from any desire to want to work honourably, you can even go back to the Old Testament and you think about the way the Old Testament system work you go and you Look at the farms that people owned gone told those farmers he said, listen leave the outside edges of your formed untouched. We don't want you to reap anything from when it's time for you to reap your harvest. Don't touch the outside edges of your farm. Why? Because those that are poor those that have no money those that have no ability to be able to have their own farm in their welfare system is to go out to the farm themselves and to actually reap that which was leftover. Now, that did several things number one it taught those that were wealthy to take responsibility on a social level for those did not have that kind of wealth number one, but number two. And more importantly, it gave honor and gave here's a, here's a word ready dignity to those who were without. They didn't just sit there and collect a paycheck from the government. They didn't sit there and demand to be on an equal level they worked with their hands and it created dignity with them and you know what's really interesting about that. It always left room for those that were poor because you had to develop a skill set to be able to harvest from anybody's farm whether or not it was your farm, and as you develop that skill set, you would eventually be able to have what you need to actually create your own industry to create your own skill set and. This is something that we learned today. You have a guy who's a repairman he works for a large company. He develops a skill set with his hand. He gets really really good at it. He starts inside edition. What does he do? He starts his own business. He walks away from that business and we see that kind of thing, and this is something that's inspired by what we read in the Scriptures and certainly not what we read in the writings of Marx Neon. That's that's well put. So Pastor, can you answer some wide just kind of emails we get here people say Charlie Christianity's nothing but mythology it's been debunked. It's an old book it's disproven what is Your Best Response Talbot So my best responses, those are statements that are not founded in fact, and my response would be you need to show me that those statements are true. You need to prove those things to me and most of the time they can't prove those things and there's a lot of statements we can make with respect to the Bible itself the Bible itself presents. Yes. Many problems in the minds. Of Most people that initially approach it simply because of the issues with respect to original language and so on and so forth. But what's really interesting when we look at the evidence of the accuracy of the Bible right as well as the evidence of the existing accuracy of the manuscripts themselves, we have more manuscript evidence to establish not only the history risky of the Bible, but the accuracy of. The Bible, then we do to establish the accuracy and even the history city of Shakespeare. Okay and people don't get that based on the rules that we use to approach this. There is a forensic to this. We have an establishment to be able to determine that the Bible is actually true and the other thing that's really amazing is the Bible is the only book there is no other. Book. That makes claim to prophetic things that can be established as truly fulfilled by an examination of history and fulfilled with some remarkable remarkable remarkable accuracy right down to the point where things even to the day in some respects have been accurately predicted in the Bible and so for somebody to say that there's no way in the world that that can be true. It just comes from the fact. That they sit in the same mindset that many people on the left sit every I've never had a conversation with anybody on the left including liberal-leaning pastors right where I said they hate trump he's evil. He's wicked. He's he's a racist he's this I ask him the same question every single time. GimMe one thing. One thing that establishes your statement. I. Just fact one fact don't give me. Any emotion don't tell me you don't like the way. He says just give me one fact I've never had a person that could give me one back not a single one, and it's the same thing with the Bible people go back and they listen to the rhetoric that people share but they never want to take the time to even establish its accuracy and one of the questions that I. Often Times ask as I say we'll have you even read the Bible from cover to cover most of the time they'll say, no most of the time they. So again, it goes back to will give me some solid insight as to why it's inaccurate or it has a fallacy and will come down and we'll deal with it because there are answers to virtually everything I've been doing this. For Twenty seven years and I'm telling you there's virtually an answer for every single fallacy that exists concerning the Bible or claim that's made concerning the Bible because the truth is the truth and that's why we're not scared of the truth. So what some people say, well, all religions are the same they all believe in mysticism all this you came from your culture, the culture, your family came from. Christian lineage but was in Islamic culture. You know you speak eight languages right? Or something like that. Seventy I speak I speak a few languages. Somebody, said you spoke eight languages. What makes Christianity different than any other religion especially a slum. Okay. So what makes Christianity different than any other religion is because every claim that Christianity makes is different than any other religion as a matter of fact, it's really interesting when you look at the many other religions that are out there and you look at the claims that they make, they are oftentimes some kind of a perversion of the original claims of the Bible. So the Bible. Makes him very unique claims that no other religion does claim. For example, the Bible makes claims about Jesus Christ being God Jesus Christ actually being crucified, buried, and resurrected. Right. The history of that statement alone is easily identifiable. It's easily establish -able I mean it's there's so many pieces of evidence that sit around the resurrection of Christ alone, which makes Christianity. So unique Christianity holds human beings. Christiani you look at all the philosophers that existed out there. If you look at every single philosopher that had anything credible to say about the human condition, you can go back and you can look at those statements and you can track them back to the Bible. You can look at them I mean even John He makes a declaration about Jesus that was so. Unique you gotta understand the Greek mindset when John wrote his book. The Greek mindset when John wrote is because there's one hundred million gods out there right? I mean there's this that God here God that God here you know and they had they worshiped every kind of God and then John He writes he pins down this phrase he says Inaki and how logos. Postal tail cal sales. Sinha. Logos in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and then he goes on to say and the word became flesh. So he identifies every questionable God that they have and he says any fake or fictitious God that you can think of it reconciled in the true and living God and that's Jesus Christ who manifested himself here on this earth became. A man and suffered so that we could experience salvation and it's very interesting because I don't know of any other religion that speaks of the story of redemption. Christianity does I don't know of any other claim any other. Mindset and it's interesting. You look at Islam. Islam is the epitome of Destruction I. Mean you think about this look when those nine eleven terrorists gun in those airplanes and they flew those airplanes into our building they weren't screaming they weren't going. They were saying y'all Eli Hilo Mohamed Alaa they were. They were literally praising the name of their fake God a law, and it's interesting because even though code on itself listen I'm a biblical fundamentalist I believe in the fundamentals of the Bible, if you are a fundamentalist of the code on, then you believe in death destruction and you believe in taking over by force why in the world do you think these girls in the house right now who are Islamic are literally encouraging? People to go out into the streets and take things by force. It's inspired by the Celtic Demand Nick Construction that you find in Islam and it's so amazing to me because there's so many variations in cults of it that people continue to buy the black Islamic Movement for example, is a great example. You've a lot of black Americans right now that are that are really embracing the black Islamic movement when it by the way Islam at its core does not like black people. Think about it but it's tolerated in the United States the black Islamic movement is tolerated in the United States by those that are in the Middle East because it is a motion for awareness. Of a law and so it's a it's a further opportunity to propagate this fake religion. But again, it goes right back to it and you go back. I mean I think of Islam alone it demands that you give your sons. To, kill. For the glory of Allah. When the says Jesus, the son of God was sacrificed God, gave his son for us that we wouldn't have to die. He think about that and so it's a it's a sad reality. But unfortunately, it's a truth that a lot of people don't even know about and if they really did understood, understand the tenants of it they probably change their mind to be honest. That's really well said last question. Why should Christians vote for? Donald Trump. Oh my goodness. If you'd asked me that question at the beginning of this podcast I would take the rest of the podcast. First of all, let me just make this statement. I think president trump is going to go down as the greatest president and US history and I know that there's a lot of Christians get mad at me when I say that because they say president trump's a bad guy he's a playboy crazy dirty businessmen. The guy's been divorced two times Mary three times. And I just tell them all the same thing I I say look at the man's actions. Let's look at President Bush. Okay. Let's just talk about President Bush for a second because a lot of Christians led President Bush, and I gotTa tell you I love the man I love is I. I've loved every President we've ever had in the sense that I've always prayed for them but you like president. Bush. Reasons all. Yeah. Like President Bush's a really good guys classic guy or whatever. Did. President. Bush ever do for antiabortion president. Trump has ever done and you know what? They all tell me they say, Oh yeah, he did. Okay it did he ever appeared march for life did he ever right more executive orders than you can shake a stick at to make abortion hard in this country? Did he ever push for legislation to come against abortion? Did he ever seek to appoint Supreme Court justices that would come against abortion? You could easily say no on that one right yet. Most people don't realize it. His own wife was an activist for pro abortion and that's harsh statement to make but it's absolutely true and I'm going to stop to just simply say president trump has done everything humanly possible to prevent abortion in this country president trump has done everything that he can't a president to fight against abortion that alone would be enough of a reason for me to take a stand for him to vote for him. But I'm voting for him for lots of other things I'm voting for him because he is the friendliest president we have ever had towards free speech towards religion towards freedom of religion. He's been very friendly towards pastors. He's been very, very friendly towards every kind. Of 'cause Israel that stands up for righteousness. He is the best president that we have ever had for the family. He's the best president we've ever had for education. He's the best present. Listen you know this I've talked about this my wife and I are really really seeking to adopt children we're looking we're asking God to bring little babies in our lives that we can adopt people don't know this president trump has actually been very friendly for people wanting to adopt children including him pushing to make more tax credits for people who spend a lot of money to adopt children our president, my president I'm proud of my president has done everything that he can possible and let me just say this. He is the epitome of hard working man. He's not lazy. He's up all the time he's going on everywhere. I mean. You've got this guy who's running for president who's literally hiding in the basement he comes out to say, hi, every twenty some odd days when our president is going from two to three to four to five states every single day and he's working hard and you don't. Listen I have been in the business of people for a very, very long time and I can tell when a man loves people and that man less people say, oh, evidence about how can you tell people? He just wants more power wants more power wait hold on he came into office worth six, billion dollars six, billion dollars everybody loved him I. Think I actually think Barack Obama at one point before all the controversies says the dream was realized. That's right. this is a guy who had the best life that anybody could and yet he gave it all up for the sake of serving the American people you know what that sounds like to me that sounds like somebody that I know that I love and worship and that's Jesus Christ. He acts in the same way he behaves selfless way he gave up everything right so that he could do for our nation how many people are doing that right now even these people that are riding in the streets, they're not giving up anything they're not giving up anything for this nation they're tearing this nation down these people that are. Serving in the Senate they have no idea what it means to be independently wealthy their wealth comes from they're lying or cheating and stealing, and that's just reality and I think it's something that oftentimes we dismiss we don't really look at it for what it is. He truly is the greatest. If not be best president, we've ever had in this nation. I'm so thankful to the Lord for him and I think every single Christian should not be ashamed to say. So listen if we're not ashamed to say Jesus Christ is Lord and it's acceptable for us to be ridiculed over standing for Christ. Why wouldn't we stand for? Righteousness. Crisis Fog or Supreme Donald Trump will ever be. He's the one that's really going to save this world. He's the one where we truly have our hoping right if we're willing to take a stand for righteousness on his behalf, why wouldn't we be able to speak up when we see a man who is standing up for contesting for what we believe in and what we care about Amen it's so important we'll pastor James. How can people stay in touch with you? How can they follow you on social media and we're GONNA have to have you back sometime. Soon. I offered Bro I really would be honored well on my instagram. I met it's at Jane's Cadiz and A. Yes Yes. Okay. A DIS, right. So at Jane's case, and then my youtube is Calvary Chapels Signal Hill. 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Taking Every Thought Captive

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Taking Every Thought Captive

"Welcome to raising christian kids. Your host lee end. Manzini is extremely passionate that children build a strong foundational relationship with jesus before the of ten children need head and heart knowledge in order to stand strong against a world's ever increasing rejection of christianity. You will be equipped with methods and techniques to help to solidify a relationship between your child. And jesus so let's dig deep and help the next generation to love jesus with all their heart soul and mind hello and welcome back to raising christian kids before we start today's show. I want to highlight for a moment here. An article i read recently in the title of the article is social media for six year olds. I cringed when i read that. Facebook has announced that. It's developing a newer safer instagram for children. Starting at age six six year old need to be outside playing they to be reading books. They need to read their bible. They don't need to be on instagram. We don't want encourage children at a young age to be on their screens. That can cause an addiction later in life even not later in life but in teenage years they'll be wanting to do computer games. I think it's not a good idea to have a six year. Old being on social media to begin with. We never know when. Someone's going to hack into the computer or hack into that instagram account. It's just not safe and don't you think children need to stay children for while i do. And we need to be teaching them about the things of the lord and screen time should be extremely limited. So no thank you facebook. We don't need an instagram for children. Who are six years of age. And i hope you feel the same way and i just want to add one more thing. Please make sure to share our podcast with other parents or like minded people who are raising small children because we want to get this information out there. We want to change the trajectory of the way. We're raising our children. And we want to equip and empower all who arrays in the next generation to help their children to love jesus with all their heart soul and mind so please. If you can rate us leave a review subscribe to the podcast and tell others. We greatly appreciate it and also join our community facebook group. We have some great information that we share in that group. We just started this group. We're going to golden give away some really great prizes and we're just a wonderful community all working together. Raise strong christian children now on with today's show today is i'm recording. I had the wonderful opportunity of attending my church. Calvary chapel in boca raton in speaking to the moms there about how they can raise their children to have a strong foundation and be happy to bring this information to your church. If you're in south florida let me know. But today we're gonna talk about how we can take every thought captive and that mean and how can we teach our children to do. The same. god's word tells us that we are to take every thought captive. It doesn't say some thoughts. It says every thought so experts say that we have between sixty thousand to eighty thousand thoughts day. That's about three thousand thoughts per hour. So how can we are. Chilin take every thought captive. Think about the thoughts we have. We think of things that we would never ever do but doesn't stop us from having those thoughts pop into our mind right. And then in the beatitudes lord says if you think about adultery you've already committed adultery and so we have a lot of thoughts that we don't even want to have in our minds that pop into our minds that's the sinful nature flesh that dwells in us. Second corinthians ten five states we demolish arguments in every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god and we take every thought captive to make it obedient to christ so when we have thought say like perhaps you're going to tell a lie. And that thought sets itself up against the knowledge of god because god's word clearly says that line is a sin and in that moment before we tell a lie the holy spirit does quicken us. In god's word states in one corinthians ten thirteen that gobble provide a way out when we are tempted to sin and we need to teach our children this to cue to listen to at little inner voice the holy spirit in that tells them before they do something wrong. Temp to listen to it. Okay pay attention to it. Don't overlook it. This is when we should take that sinful thought captive moment the word capped of means to take the prisoner to confine and in doing so we are to take our sinful thoughts and imprison them as we do in a war right where we capture an enemy. Let us remember. We are engaged in spiritual warfare and so's our children. Let's not forget that another thing we can do is write down our thoughts that go against god and pull our bibles out and look bible. Verse says and right the bible verses down that you know adhere or guide us as we should do when we have that specific negative thought for example. Your child expresses verbally. What they're thinking they say. I don't want to read my bible first of all remember. It's a hard issue. They need to want to read their bible. Not because they're told to do so. So you can ask your child will. How would you feel if you wrote me a letter. And i said i don't wanna read it. Would that make your heart sad. Well it makes. Jesus in god's heart said when you don't wanna read the words he has written for us so let's look up a bible verse that you can remember when you feel like you don't wanna read your bible. You will recall this bible verse and it will help you to know what is the right thing to do you know. Our thoughts are hard to control. But did you know that our behavior can affect our genes are behaviors. Come from our thoughts. What we choose to do or not to do. Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors in environment can cause changes that affect the way your genes work just because gene has been passed down through. The generations does not mean it has to be activated and it can be activated or deactivated by your decisions by your environment and your experiences. Now your thoughts are what form your actions okay. So that's where it all starts now. We can't deactivate the genes that determine our hair color but there are genes that we can actually turn on and turn off engine know i think about my own situation. My mother was a very loving mother and she loved jesus but she was very negative and pessimistic. She thought everyone had an angle and so she did not trust. Many people and i chose to make sure that i would not become a negative. I chose to think differently and as a child. This is as a child. I chose to think positive. I took those negative thoughts captive. After all god's word and efficiency four thirty one states to put away bitterness wrath and anger. and that's what i wanted to do. Perhaps this is what ezekiel eighteen to means. When he said the parents eat sour grapes. And the children's teeth are set on edge some of our genes. Our iniquities passed down from generation to generation. And they can be stopped exchanging negative words for positive. Words helps to change our thought process remember. Negative liberty is from the devil. And i'm gonna just read a few instead of saying this. Say this type thing for you and we'll have more in our show notes for you to choose from so if you say to your child. Don't interrupt me. Wouldn't it be better to say wait one minute. Don't interrupt me as such a negative thought. Wait one minute please is. The way should say or how about. I wish she were more like whoever instead of saying that. Say can you do this like and then tell them how you would like it done. My mom used to say. Because i said so instead of saying that. Can you say this is why i want you to do it this way. So they'll be other ones listed in the show notes. Another one i like is don't be rude or mean instead of saying that. Just say please use kind words so training our thoughts to be positive. Ok an and that can turn off any genes that you have. That's passed down from generation. Your family where maybe the grandmother or whoever is a very negative pessimistic person in remember. When i talk about show notes you should go to raising christian kids dot com and that will bring you to our podcast where you can access all these show notes and the links so this week right down any negative thought you or your child may half you will know their thoughts by what they say to you or others. Listen to what they're saying and listen to what you're saying because again they repeat what we say help to train their thoughts after all their thoughts become their actions. Let us have the mind of christ the sooner the better doing all this is how we will raise strong christian kids. This podcast is part of the edified podcast network. Edify is a faith inspiring app that brings together thousands of the best christian. Podcasts in one place for your listening enjoyment cut through the noise and grow your faith by diving into the world's top christian podcast today. Download the edify app for free from the app store. Google play or by going to edify dot app. That's i f. I dot tap.

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Charlie's 'Non-Essential' Speech Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills

The Charlie Kirk Show

14:12 min | 9 months ago

Charlie's 'Non-Essential' Speech Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills

"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Hey everybody I just gave a speech to a packed house at Calvary Chapel Chino. Hills at non-essential it is a quick important speech about why we must elect president trump and the stakes we are up against. It is a short summary I. Encourage you to send this to all of your friends non-essential, my speech, a Calvary Chapel Chino hills. And it pertains to this election emails, your questions freedom at Charlie Kirk, dot com support, our crusade as we go across the country to get president trump elected. We are traveling like crazy as you guys are listening to this episode we're probably in a plane somewhere to Florida or to Arizona or to Minnesota anywhere across the country you name it were there Charlie Kirk Dot com slash support time the reelect president trump here's why buckle up everybody here we go Charlie what you've done is incredible here maybe Charlie, Kirk is on the college campus won't you didn't know we are lucky to have Charlie Charlie comes running the White House. I WANNA thank jollies, incredible guy, his spirit his love of this country's done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning-point USA. Not Embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Thank you. Great to be here feel like I'm returning home. We are crisscrossing the country we have been in Florida Maine Minnesota Georgia Arizona now here in California and I got a call from my my pastor rob McCoy dear friend Kirk Cameron. And they said Charlie can you add a stop in Chino California said? The little bit going on in the country right now. But as soon as they said, this is a gathering. Around the idea that church is essential. I said when where I'll be there immediately because. We are seeing happening in our country. All you know this is that the church founded this country activists Christians but understood that our rights came from God not from King George that our rights came from God not from government in the first grade awakening in our country founded the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world around two big ideas, freedom and equality. Now. Where do those words come from in the Bible? There's freedom is mentioned many times but Jesus, Christ said something very interesting and we would we didn't actually discover this. Until tindale started to translate the Bible from Latin to English. Now understand that was the peasant language, the common man's language. Prior the common man was not able to read the Bible and dive into the living word of God, and Tindale realized that when Jesus Christ said on this rock, some people say build my church. He said ECHINACEA an idea was a secular term. You didn't say on this rock build my synagogue gay or temple you dive into actually when I. was at the time it was this was a gathering of people concerned about their community in a Greek city state that were exchanging ideas because they said, they had a duty and responsibility to make the world around them better. Now, why would Jesus choose that term? Do you know the two words that in secular Greek Times they use? That were the most important words to describe ECHINACEA Freedom and equality. Jesus knew exactly what he was saying when he said on this rock build. Akl Assia because Jesus never wanted compartmentalized Christianity, you wanted Comprehensive Christianity where we're going to be in politics we're going to be in the arts we're going to be in science we are going to be in government we are going to be in the streets we're going to be in schools. What we have seen right now. In the last six months, we've made the worst mistake in the history of our country. Locking Down America will go down as one of the worst decisions ever made by the political. To try to keep you down. Now, mind you. Who benefited from the lockdowns? Some people say, oh no, it's everyone paid an equal price. We're all in this together. That's not true. The average billionaire has seen their net worth increased by twenty to thirty percent. Jeff bezos added forty five billion dollars net worth Amazon is more valuable than it ever has been in America's billionaires are six, hundred, seventy, five, billion dollars richer. Yet most of you had to borrow money to pay medical debt borrow money keep just things together. Maybe put things borrow money from a friend for payroll. It's harder than ever be a middle-class American yet the ruling class in this country. Were able to have the luxury of surviving the lockdown and people say we're divided in America. It's not untrue and it's not necessarily a bad thing and this is where I think the election is headed. I think the election is headed between one side of the country that has the luxury to say, they can survive another lockdown. I think the divide in this country is one side of the country that says, I'm part of the zoom in skype class and I can rule roll out of bed and get on a zoom call NBA. Another draconian one-size-fits-all government order, and then there's the muscular class one, hundred million people that wake up every single day they have to wear a mask eight hours to drive uber fulfilling. Amazon order work in our restaurants, a backbone of our country by the way. They finally have a voice. They finally have a voice in a albeit on likely spokesperson billionaire from New York who came down gold escalator and he started to do something you are not supposed to do. He did something you're not supposed to do. He started to say you've been lied to you've been misled. And he went up against Sixteen Republicans, the Bush Dynasty, the Clinton Dynasty to social media tech companies the mainstream media outspent ten to one, and he won but once he won and we all remember that night he did something you're really not supposed to do you started the fulfill his promises he actually move the embassy to Jerusalem actually recognize the Golan Heights. And then he did even further than that. He said I made a list for Supreme Court justices and people said, who are you going to pick because the political elite in DC? They say no no, you don't actually do what you tell your constituents. Like that's called electioneering. We then do our own thing when we go to DC and the president said hold on a second. In business. If you don't do what you're say you're going to do you lose a contract and it turns out that the person that they say is the most immoral person ever has operated with more integrity fulfilling the promise of the people that voted for him than anyone that we send to see in the last forty years. Gorsuch Cavenaugh Amy Conybeare Most pro-life President American history most pro Israel president cancelling the Iran deal finally taking illegal immigration seriously before we lockdown our country, the greatest economy in American history for blacks Hispanics. Latinos. Disabled women the lowest income brackets in our country. The highest income gains the largest middle class tax cut in American history finally taking child sex trafficking seriously peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates I could go on believable. And yet. We all know this when someone pursues the good. Don't expect the enemy to lay still. What do they do they spy on him through an Inter Inter governmental coup and they think they could get away with it They win back to house on a lie. Then they impeach him on another lie. Then we shut down the country because of an epidemiological Pearl Harbor that China's sent us two, hundred, thousand Americans dead hundred, thousand small businesses closed one out of four of young people have contemplated suicide in the last ninety days alcoholism drug use social isolation, school closures, Young Adolescent Depression everything's on the way up and despite all of that. Despite everything they've thrown at the sky leaking his tax returns spying on the first lady's private conversations. Every single person in the White House that you could possibly find throw a little bit of money for a nice lucrative book deal. There's this is going to be the big one that's going to destroy Donald. Trump despite all of that, it's true. We don't troll the companies. We don't control the universities. We don't control the government we control the presidency, but we I think we're starting to realize there's a whole nother level beneath it. We don't control the governor's mansion here in California we don't control the corporate side of our country. Some our churches have you been disappointed US lately, but there's one thing. The has the Biden campaign very nervous. There's one thing they really haven't figured out how to control. They've taken over everything we know it and feel it. You feel like they've taken over all the institutions but there's a reason why the founding fathers put three words at the beginning of the constitution because the one thing they haven't figured out how to control his youth. That's what this election is about who's in charge is that Peter Struck is at the people at Google. Is it Hillary Clinton Joe Biden, her Hunter Biden, and all that. The. Answer is so simple. WHO's the sovereign this country's at the ruling class or is it the people? Is it us? because. The last six months we have endured lies about the lockdowns lies about the virus lies about the school closing lies about businesses lies about everything you could possibly imagine, and despite all of it, the one guy that they shouldn't run won't run won't win win. The primary won't win any of these states still wins the presidency fulfills his promises despite everything they've thrown at him seventeen days out. Can you even imagine the type of individual that God has his hand on this man? So what do we do? We are so blessed to live in the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world because. Despite all that power consolidation despite the nonsense say teacher kids in schools despite the social media companies trying to prevent things from being heard despite all of that. You still have the power to be able to express your voice and here's what I believe is going to happen if we do our job and every person listening to this right now they get ten people to the polls. They make phone calls knock on doors you communicate to your friends. You vote your other friends to do that. I truly believed that the ruling class in this country Teheran for a reckoning like they've never seen before. And that's why we're here today. If Biden wins. It'll be because the church. Let it happen. If Biden wins. It'll be because the church decided to pander to be lm not the fight for life. If in wins, it'll be because the church said embassy in Jerusalem doesn't mean anything despite that being the place that our Savior Jesus Christ walked talks died and rose again after three days. It's in your hands. It's an a church is in this area and across the country and everyone watching on the live stream right now I could tell you this race has tightened can't believe it's a coin toss it's a margin of error race in Arizona in Pennsylvania in Florida. Who shows up who's going to make those compelling arguments? I'm traveling the country working harder than I ever have in anything in my entire lives for this one election. and. I am able to go to college campuses and get young people excited about our country. The churches of this country can wake up and can rise up and could talk to their congregation around these incredibly important times. Benjamin, Franklin was asked after the constitutional convention. So what kind of country do we have? And Ben Franklin smiled, and he said we have a republic if you can keep it. And in a way that only God could possibly work. You have a man that everyone said shouldn't be president who's done more for the the body of Christ defending religious liberty, pro-life Israel the entire list, and that that's not even an exhaustive list what he's done for our country. And so this guy needs your help I'm telling you right now he's being outspent he's being outdone. He's being absolutely massacred in the media and the media decides that they don't want to cover the fact that the son of the opposition candidate handed over three of his laptops. And by the way, no weapon against China because I'll tell you. There's no other explanation. For how the son of Joe Biden just handover his laptops and just decide to tell us that is entire family's been doing this. What kind of country do you want live in? and WHO's in charge? I'm dedicating my next seventeen days of my life to sleep three hours a night crisscrossing the country red eye flights to speak anywhere that'll have me to podcast today to radio shows a day because I truly believe that this election is the turning point election. Is. The election that will determine the future of our country. People ask me all the time. They say, what's your political philosophy? Say It's very simple. On, November third my political philosophy is this we win they lose. Thank you guys so much God bless you. Thanks so much for listening everybody make sure to send this episode to your. Friends. Email us your questions freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com. Thanks so much for listening goblins.

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Eric at Calvary Chapel (continued)

The Eric Metaxas Show

41:05 min | 5 months ago

Eric at Calvary Chapel (continued)

"Is podcast is a production of the salem podcast network for more podcast like this. From courageous of conservative reason visit salem. Podcast network dot com folks. Welcome to the program. I believe it's tuesday. I really wouldn't know. I'm off the calendar alvin. I've decided to go off the grid when i say off the grid. I don't just mean physically in terms of geographical location. But i'm going off the calendar i ranking is days of the week. I don't recognize anything anymore. It's just today okay. Well you're big enough now to do whatever you want with the exactly. I said when. I get big going off the grid off all off the calandra grid and that's gregorian and julian. Because i don't care that's the kind of power i have right now. A mad drunk with power. Okay alvin we tell people. Today we are playing I- i preached at calvary chapel chino hills a week and a half ago. Seems like can be just a week and a half. It's amazing i was when my folks in connecticut. this past weekend the previous weekend i was at calvary chapel chino hills california jacobs church. We're going to play that sermon. This weekend i fly to sonko. Say which is near suffered a cisco san francisco california which is now i believe Reclining by mexico. Am i getting that right. I think so. Or can't we can't out like nicaragua. Oh francisco san francisco was saying who was the francis animals and so some franscisco. Some say san diego. Those places are all named it. It's obvious that mexico really owns california. They're gonna take over released gavin. Newsom listen to this drawn and quartered. Isn't that interesting. Yeah yeah that's that's the first thing you're going do listen. People still want to hear about about. You wrote something up about coucil culture. The muppets. i'll okay. Yeah in fact. You sound like a muppet right. There and it reminded me that. I think it was over the weekend. Disney put out this whole thing about how the muppets now have to come with a warning. Okay so it's kind of like a little bit of censorship there on the muppets and instantly. It reminded me of the mccarthy hearings. It was like the mccarthy hearings all over again. I mean. Think about it for i. They came charlie mccarthy and edgar. Bergen did not speak out because he was not a puppet. We'll rope oh alvin. I'm sorry this is too good to just jump in. This is what martin niemoeller who was friends with dietrich baja hoffer he wrote the famous poem and you are now applying this to what is going on with the muppets. This is really important folks. Listen up go ahead. yeah okay. And then then they came for lamb chop and sherry lewis did not speak up because she was not a puppet then they came for cucolo and france and only did not speak up even though he was a puppet. No no no. Oh you're right eight because fran Friend did not speak up but she was she was. She was a human being hookah. Fran and ollie ollie. Did not speak up. Please continue yes. And now of course they've come for kermit the frog miss piggy and all the muppets and jim henson. He can't speak up because he passed away in nineteen ninety so there you have it now. They're gonna come for the rest of us dummies. So you've got to be you know that was funny. That was good. That was good. Let's keep head in the show okay. They're gonna come for guns. Oh they're gonna come from z. The bear They're gonna come for all of them up. It's gonna say because. I tweeted this out the other day. And it got a zillion re tweets if you think things are going crazy folks. That's because they are but here's the point. They're not really going crazy because most of us see that things are going crazy when they're canceling the muppets when they're canceling mike lindell when they're canceling me. When the you just know something ridiculous happening it cannot happen in america because we still have a voice and we will use our voice while we have our voice I have this program. I have social media. But you've got to use your voices. This is part of what i talk about. In the sermon at chino hills. So we're going to run that today. Both hours was the long a sermon. We already have it on our youtube. Paid if you wanted to just go there and watch me deliver it Rather than listen to it but we're gonna play it in both hours today. It is a kind of real madness album that we are are experiencing this. I said yesterday amazon is longer carrying my friend. Ryan anderson's book became sally's about the transgender craziness right. Well they think they banned abigail schreier book we had. We had her on this program or some other store. Bandit when people are doing this we need to stand up. Stand up ladies and gentlemen. You are part of the problem. You are part of the problem. You must speak. You must act. Silence in the face of evil is itself. Evil not to speak is to speak not to act is to act. God will not let hold us guilt lists. We are obliged to do something when we see this madinat so in anybody tried to cancel someone else number one. You need to support the person whom they're trying to cancel so they've tried to do that to mean a number of ways. They tried to do that. Horrified to mike lindell l. So i will say on almost every program please go to mypillow dot com and my store dot com and use the code. Eric we need your support on this program. Mike lindell really needs to support. Please go to mypillow dot com and my store dot com and use the code. eric Most of the book store dot com. And i want to say that because amazon is now getting involved in the cancel culture. We need to find alternative venues For how we can Get our books and other things. So that's why. I want to say my book Many of my books are available at my store. dot com. use the code. Eric get a big discount. Also stock redes in the city. Dot com has many of my books available signed copies. And let's not forget album my the this this program we can. Oh galvin's books. Mike and books. We're what's the website it's called shop. Metaxas dot com. But if you go to metaxas radio dot com right no no no way. You're the. I think you need to know the website it's taxes. Talk dot com. I just had a brain freeze. Its metaxas talk dot com. It's been that way and producer. Can you imagine them better. It is for the rest of the world. This is all. i know. Metaxas dot com where people just fatigue but folks listen. There's no we're not asking much Please take take take control of where your dollars go. I've spent like zillions at amazon and stuff and probably will continue to spend money there because there aren't great alternatives but when we find other alternatives may be we need to send a message to amazon And do whatever we can so again. I will say most of my books are available at mypillow dot com. You go to my store dot com. Use the code eric You can go to socrates in the city dot com if you go to attack us dot com which is just this radio website Metaxas talk dot com and you can click through mature metaxas dot com honestly. You can get hats mugs t shirt and my books and albums books. You can get them there. We need to speak up so today. If listen my sermon at chino hills which were running in both hours today. You'll hear me talk a little bit about this kind of thing tomorrow. Alvin were running My socrates in the city. Conversation with peter thiel one of the geniuses entrepreneurs of our time spoke to him about like about a year and a half ago at sakis in the city and We're going to be running that tomorrow. Because i will be out of pocket as they say. I'm going to be down at the tbn studios recording a ton of stuff. So i won't be able to do the program tomorrow thursday. We hope to have john. Zamir ac zamira on the program just to just real quick about drawn a our friend reverend john rankin if you go to rev john rankin dot com. You can go and you could contribute to to help his ministry as well. He's passed away and they're looking for raising funds there as well. He's a great his his wife and daughter. Need our help and so. I wanted to publicize that. It's our ev. Rev john rankin dot com rev. john rankin dot com. We'll be talking to his sons on this program in the weeks ahead. His sons chattan stewart As we know. Jeremy passed away a year. John did really tragic but god is on his throne. Rev john rankin dot com so in both our today. We are airing my Sermon at chino hills The first hour is obviously the first half and the second hour is the second half and this is just the intro. Were try to make its own days. God damn deep gone known was at home okay. What can you do with an english degree by the way. What can you do that from yale. Like nothing okay. So i got a job as a proofreader. At union carbide in danbury connecticut. This is all in the book. And i promise you this was the biblical word. Gehenna familiar with that idea. This was so miserable. Because i'm like poet. I write humor at no. You're gonna go to a chemical international conglomerate. You're going to sit in a cubicle. A quarter mile from the nearest window. And you're going to proofread chemical manuals on. Yeah exactly. I did this eight hours a day and it was. It was horrible. But i had to do something. And this is god in the middle of that hell that misery that depression which was at the time i mean i've struggled with depression and stuff my whole life seriously. This was really bad. This was like you know. I joke around but it was bad and in the middle of this. What does god do. He sends somebody into my life graphic designer. Read about them in the book ed tuttle. He's befriends me. And whatever needs to talk to me about the bible and this and that now of course my first instinct is like. Don't get too close with that weird stuff. But he was a born again. Charismatic spirit filled bible believing christian but he attended an episcopal church. And i figured he's safe they they don't believe any of this stuff so come on down so so i got into these conversations with him and whenever you say the bible study at the no baba said he went to church with me. I want to go to church so it was like keep. Keep your distance. But i was in enough pain that it was like keep keep talking because i'm in pain so we kept talking over the months and months and months and the lord spoke to me in a dream about a year into this. I'm not going to tell that because it's a whole dramatic story. But the lord got me where he wanted me for his purposes and when i came to know him it just it just changed everything and i i first of all i prayed. Okay lord i have not been doing to the career thing so why don't you take a shot at it. I'm gonna just. Do you want me to do what do you say. And the lord lead me on the strangest path to working colson writing for veggietales voice of the narrator on the video by the way have said that a front because now you listen to what i have to say. You're like oh oh yale veggie tip. Whoa yes if you pop in the veggietales video. I am still the narrator to this day to this day. I'm still on video so so planning plotting shame on you. What is wrong with you. People i talked about communism. And they applauded. Bob the tomato. That's when they applauded. Suzanne seriously. that's the kind of a group dealing with so by the way. I know bob the tomato personally and he's broken. He's a bitter bitter agnostic. Pray for bob and when the cameras come on. He's like christian tomato but behind the scenes. It's great yeah. So i'm sorry. I know the kids in the room. I shouldn't share that. But it's so so the lord took me on this bizarre journey. But here's the thing once you know. Jesus he's the source of truth source of goodness and love and everything and you can follow him. You don't be afraid. In fact my friend tuttle shared with me a scripture before i was really ready to be shared scriptures with but he says i just wrote this down on a note card and he gives me tack it up in my cubicle and it was a jeremiah twenty nine eleven i guess it says i know the plans i have for. You says the lord plants not to harm you plans to give you hope and a future and i remember reading that and thinking. I'm not sure. I believe god exists. I hope he does. But i don't know. But if he does exist and he says. I know plans. I have you planned not to harm you not to embarrass you and make you into some religious freak that is not you know that checks brain the door with it you can trust me. God i have plans for you to turn you into something that i created you to be from before time and you can trust me and i remember that that ministered to me. It's kinda like the magic of the word of god right. It just minister to me. Even though i wasn't sure and it opened up and that's after some time i was able really to receive the lord in this dream and he kind of set me up but i say this also to be really clear about this in the dream. I was literally unconscious. I was sleeping. Have i made that clear. I can't take any credit like intellectual credit reason my way to god now. No i didn't. And i say it's just like lazarus like lazarus if you wanna if you wanna be raised up off of the slab where you're currently rotting need to exercise. Your faith lazarus come on. Lazarus had no faith. Lazarus wasn't even there. We need to be spiritually and theologically. Clear it is all god. He doesn't say come on. You can do it. This is like you're dead and he raised us up. We're not sick were dead. I was spiritually dead. I was unconscious and the lord spoke to me in my spiritual death and raised me to life. That's what it is to believe in him so we need to understand. We cannot take any credit for faith. Can't walk around an proud. I'm a christian. Because you know. I'm better than the non-christians because that's the whole point. That's the whole point and that's what we'll give you compassion for people. Who aren't where we are is to say that's me apart from the fact right so it in all of this stuff i just i get saving. Lord starts steering the around. Next thing i know. He guides me to write these biographies. I promise you. i had zero intention. Ever of writing the biography in my life. But the lord lead me. May i say miraculously. I never use the word miraculous loosely. There are certain things that are blessing. But it's not really a miracle. The lord miraculously led me in several. I'm still gonna write that book. What happened after. I get saved at the end of this book. I want to tell the stories of all these miracles. But the lord lead me to write my book. And william wilberforce who battled the slave trade and the british empire incredible hero because of his faith. Jesus stood up against racism slavery because his fate and jesus all the good people who went to church then lift a finger. It was the born again. Jesus freaks the methodist evangelical is the bible bangers those people in the eighteenth century. Those were the ones who knew that. God is the enemy of slavery or racism or whatever so if anybody says you racism wrong and he said yes. I know that but do you know why it's wrong. And they're gonna look at you like what do you mean. You can even ask that question. That's embarrassing. yeah nobody knows why it's wrong. I know why it's wrong. Because god says it's wrong in his word. God declares that we're all equal in his sight. God declares it. You don't believe in the bible you tell me why it's wrong. Go all good things. Come from god. slavery is wrong. That's from the bible. Jesus freaks like william wilberforce. He gets saved and dedicates himself for the abolition of the slave trade bond hoffer. That was the next book i wrote. Why did he speak up for the jews. He's a christian. He spoke up because he was a real christian. He was not a church going christian. He was a real christian new. Jesus who knew jesus parentheses was a jew and that these are god's people and it doesn't that doesn't even matter if god's people because the weaker muslims suffering in china today god demands that we speak up for them that we use our voices to speak up for anybody that is being oppressed in this world. We have an opportunity. We have a duty. So i write these books and the bompard kind of broke through in a way that i didn't anticipate but part of the reason broke through is because it was a prophetic story. I didn't know it at the time as i was writing. I got a sense. That god is saying something here because as as i'm writing it i said this reminds me of what's happening in america. How can this be what's going on. What are we not seeing. And just as bonn hoffer was prophetic voice in the church that they try to get them wet. Wake them up. I feel like my bond hoffer book. It's his story again. Trying to say the church. Hey you think you're different than the germans and the nineteen thirties. You're not you're exactly like them. Are you gonna make the same mistake. God gives us warning after warning. And i really feel like in america today. We're drifting in the way that the germans were drifting and these were good people many of them christian people so we can't act like. Oh they were. Anti semitic hitler loving monsters. No no no no. No many of them didn't really know what they thought and bond offering others tried to wake them up and saying if you the church. Do not stand and speak loudly now tomorrow. You won't have an voice you will not have the ability to speak tomorrow and we're gonna we're going to give it another day we're gonna let it ride a couple more days we're not gonna. We're not ready to speak yet folks. That's where we are in america right now when you talk about not being one hundred percent sure that a president eventual election was on the up and up and people so if you bring that up your your your violent insurrectionist and we're not gonna let you speak. You can say well. You can't stop me from speaking. This is the united states of america. And i don't even need to be right. I have the right. I have the right to say anything that i want to say if i feel like saying this is the united states of america and we need to honor each other and to talk to each other. And if somebody's doubt you know you need to. Maybe help them get beyond doubt otherwise. Maybe you're hiding something right. And the thing is we have every right to bring these things up with the cancel culture experiencing now. I'm telling you that's exactly what happened in germany. How do you take freedom away from people without guns. Well you use their own culture against them in america. Everybody wants to be nice. We believe in tolerance were nice even bond hoffer when he came american nineteen thirty noticed. That union theological seminary. Everybody was like kind of getting along. Make like a mister milquetoast. Get shot out now. Hard to believe but the he culture was at union theological seminary one thousand nine hundred thirty. It was already a very theologically liberal place and they had taken this idea in that we don't really want to you know we don't want to butt heads over truth and out for like what. Are you talking to us german. They're all about truth right. What are you talking about. I'll argue until i have no voice. Well he noticed that in america. I'm telling you folks that in america today. We are very similar. We want to get along with everybody so when somebody says you can't say that that's racist you gotta say excuse me. I think i'm not a racist. And if i am by the way i don't wanna be but don't use that label because you're trying to communicate. Hey shut up. I don't like what you're saying. But that's where we are right now and if we don't speak up against this we have ourselves to blame when somebody says you you're violent insurrectionist because you you question this question that you have to stand up and say listen folks. I'm not. I'm not that and the very fact that you're saying that tells me what i need to know about where you're coming from. You're not interested in truth or you would say keep talking. Maybe misunderstanding something. You're not saying that you're telling me shut up. shut up. Shut up because you seem to be afraid of where the conversation might go and that tips me off. That's a red flag that you might be hiding something when people try that folks ray now if you go to china. That's why they do. If you say the wrong thing you get in big trouble. They don't have freedom there. They don't believe in anything. They're an atheist. Marxist regime that oppresses its people. But the point is that in america. We have responsibilities because we're a free people. We have a responsibility to speak the truth and god says to us. I got your back. I have defeated death. You have nothing to be afraid of. If you don't speak the truth cool speak the truth. I've already paid your debts. I've already taken care of you on every level. The're not be of good courage. God says that to us and it's not like we're doing it on our own. He is behind us. And so when you speak the truth in love when you when you speak boldly god can use you but if we are silent we have already become part of the problem and that is precisely what happened in germany. Chuck colson talks about it. He says there was a spiral of silence in germany. If you brought something up or if let's say you didn't say heil hitler loud enough people would look at you like what's wrong with you. What are you racist. Violent trump got what who are. What's the matter with you got you have a problem. Right is named them. He has a problem. He doesn't love hitler enough wants to culture starts. Doing that starts looking at you. You didn't say this the right way. You didn't say that the right way we don't know about you. We're going to put you on a list. That's the end of freedom so when that happens you need to raise your voice you need you raise your voice as an american to raise your voice as a christian. Say that's not gonna fly here. I will fight to the last drop of blood because there are people who have died people that have died for freedom. And i'm willing to die for freedom and of course people have quoted me and said. Oh last triple blood. Eric's calling for violence. No no no. That's my blood. i'm talking about right. I'm talking to my nathan hale died. He said my only regret is that i have but one life to give for my country. Okay is that a man who has made an adl of nationalism. He was a christian who understood that the values that washington was fighting for he would be glad to die for those values and he did die for those values folks. Those are stories of beautiful patriotism and we have denigrated them for fifty years. We need to understand. We are there now. And god is looking at us now and he is saying you have to demand of your leaders all the right things and by the way. It's not for you and for america. If america goes down as it is doing you know who will suffer. People in china will suffer the horrors of the damned if you do not speak with one voice because you have enabled that nation to get rich to get powerful. What do they do with the power. We've given them naively use it to oppress their own people. If you are a serious christian if you are a weaker muslim you suffer in that culture folks. God created us to care about those people. He gave us freedom for those who have no freedom when we speak up in this nation. We know we want to make this nation stronger. And why for the sake of those who have nothing that we've ever had. We been given freedom for god's purposes. it's not just so we can get more freedom. We can enjoy our freedom. No there are people around the world looking to us when reagan said to gorbachev. Mister gorbachev tear down this wall. Do you know what the deep state told him. They took that out of the speech literally seven times. You can read about this. They said you can't say that you can't say that you don't say that. And he said. I'm going to say ed and i think when he spoke those words. Mr gorbachev tear down this wall. It was a prophetic word. And that the demons trembled when he said that. You can't say that. Don't say that he said i'm going to say it. And when he said it folks there were people in the gulag people suffering people who had no food people were suffering in the soviet gulag word. Got back to them. That america has a leader who's willing to stand up to communist leaders. There's hope for us. Some of you know what i'm talking about. We don't deserve our freedom. It's a gift from god. We don't deserve our salvation. It's a gift from god. If you know who the lord is who has given you these things you know you want to do something to try to pay him back. You'll never pay him back. But you want to spend the rest of your life living to his glory because you could live in eternity. You'll never be able to give him back but he says. I just want you to understand that what i've given you as a gift for those who don't yet have that gift. People around the world has never heard the gospel there people around the world who can never tasted freedom. You need to know what you have and you need to use your voice for my purposes in history and if you don't what will happen to your nation is the same thing has happened to other nations and it happened to germany story. A bond hoffer is kind of funny. I noticed amazon. You know they ranked the books on how they're selling like in the last six months. The hav rank has gone up. And i thought why would that be because people understand. It's like a handbook for where we are. Now the reichstag fire some of you familiar in the book. I'll never forget this the right dog. Which is the german meant was burned. Somebody set fire to it. What did they do instantly before. They knew what had really happened because they didn't care. They said we're going to blame this on our political enemies and they rounded up the political enemies. They put the heat on their political enemies. They had a wonderful excuse. There was the reichstag fire. Well unfortunately and i gotta tell you. I've been talking about on offer for eleven years right now to see what happened in my country when that whatever happened the capital. Nobody really knows. Obviously none of us knows what the heck actually happened. Which tells you something but the fact is that it wasn't five minutes before they had the guns out blaming everyone who voted for president trump. And i think. I don't care who anyone voted for in america. We don't behave that way. We don't start demonizing people for how they voted. That is satanic. We don't do that in america and when people start doing that you know where they're coming from because we have not done that in this nation and to this day we still don't know exactly what happened and they keep saying if you even question what happened. You're guilty. well let me tell you. I'm smart enough to know by the grace of god. No that's not how it works here. Here we're allowed to ask questions will out to get the truth and by the way he tell me no. You're not then. I know you're hiding something so we have to be aware of the hour in which we live when that happened. I have to tell you it did. Because i said i didn't realize we were at this level. In this nation the church has to wake up the church s to speak loudly this church and by the way. You're not wearing masks. Say that we know right from wrong and you don't really need to be christian in many ways to know right from wrong. What is happening right now. The patriots all over this country. Who don't have the faith we do. They see they can smell truth because god who is truth created them in his image and we can see these things and actually believe a lot of people are being led to god through these times because people see what is happening. What i would say is vaughn hoffer. When you say oh. I would never have gone along with things back. Then folks many american christians in fact literally most american christians are drifting along just as the germans drifted along dot needs a remnant to stand to speak up if that had happened in germany that the holocaust never would have happened but they tomorrow not yet. We're not there yet. We don't wanna be political. We just want to preach the gospel. What dead gospel. You preaching that. You're not willing to stand up for the jews and boxcars being taken to the death camps and i'll say the same thing if you care about the religious liberty the wieger. Muslims are suffering the torture in chinese camps and people say well china's not our enemy if you are doing that to people because of their fate you are my are my enemy and i'm going to do anything i can to free those people because why am i not behind those barbed wire. I'm no different than they are. We all want freedom. If we do not fight for things at the church of jesus christ is not fight for these things. Tell the people outside our church. Hey you know what's going on in china. You know what is happening giving stand that we play a role in this that for twenty years. We've looked the other way. Democrats and republicans have looked the other way and this is a human rights issue. We need to confront them on this. You want to trade with us. No trade unless you change your human rights policy. Says you know what i care about the poor. That's why i have been be painted on my helicopter folks. You need to tell people and you tell them however you want depending on the context say listen. Because i'm a christian mandate to care for the poor. And because i'm commanded by god to care for the poor i condemn anything socialist or marxist and you'll be olym- they're not what they say they're a marxist organization that is dedicated to destroying the nuclear family. And that is going to do everything they can which will hurt urban poor and mostly blacks. Did you know that if you care about the urban poor you better speak up against black. lives matter. i'm looking to you if you're not speaking up against black lives matter because i know what i know. I'm not making this up. This is not mike politics. Forget politics this is about people who are suffering. And we're being kept in a state of suffering because you and you're guilty white friends are throwing money at a marxist organization destroying families and that basically is antithetical to what most black communities believe. Did you know that he didn't know that you're not hearing that on the news right. If we don't speak up against marxism if we don't speak up against it domestically if we don't speak up against it. What's happening in china folks. God is looking to his people now and people say how the bono for be so courageous. I don't you know. I came up with a line this morning. It reminds me of when somebody like tony. Evans's preaching they're amazing creatures and they come up with these lines that you'll remember. I normally don't come up with lines like that but i came up with one. Today is a courage. Courage is just faith in a crisis. That's all it. Is you know everything you need to know by faith when you come into a crisis it looks like courage to everybody else. Like wow how do you do that. How do i do that. I serve a god who defeated death. And i'm not afraid i'm not afraid of dying. I'm not afraid of my neighbors. Hassling me i'm gonna do. What i think is right because i know people looking at me. And they get strength from my courage. It helps them to be courageous. And if i am cowardly it leads to the spiral of silence that shuts up even more people. So i- everybody's looking at me. God is looking at me. The devil is going to be. My friends are looking at me and my family is looking at me. My enemies are looking at me. They can tell what. I believe by how i act. They don't need to see the statement of faith and my churches website. They look at me and my willing to speak when somebody else's not willing to speak in my willing to do the thing that might bring me. You know some people looking at me funny because it might not on the right page folks. We were born for this hour. If the church will stand in this hour. I promise you if you and those you know will stand in this hour and speak boldly what you know. I promise you. God will continue to have his hand on this nation and guess what lincoln called a new birth of freedom to god's glory. We're the church. We are privileged to stand in this hour. People have prayed and prayed and prayed. We are stan. To god's glory in jesus name. Hallelujah amen jagan either folks another segment of ask metaxas playing the role of metaxas. I feel qualified to do that since my last name is metaxas and i'm the host of this radio program. The jackson show alvin. You play the role of the acting. Man you asked me and you ask metaxas and metaxas answers okay. I'm getting a little nervous here. But i've got a good question for you. Sir hello eric metaxas and crew thank you for all you do to deliver excellent content. I really enjoyed your recent conversation with an graham watts about prior reading her new book with will be joy i was it was refreshing to hear you talk about writing down your prayers. Through the years. I have felt a little lacking due to this practice to ensure my concentration during my quiet times. Hope you're genuine conversation. Won't courage many of us to pursue praying with consistency and journaling prayers to help. Our wandering mind stays focused blessings from susan p. Oh i love these questions. Well yeah the conversation with an graham lots obviously you can watch it on youtube channel or you can go to metaxas talk dot com and listen to it but she was talking about writing down her prayers thought to myself. There's certain strains in evangelical ism where people like all prayer must be spontaneous. And if i write it down. That's bad well. I'm here to say that's not right Sometimes a written prayer whether it's in the a piscopo prayer book or whether it is in another book of prayers. Or whether it's the lord's prayer which is written down in the bible That can serve as a template and there's nothing wrong with a written prayer now if you read it really quickly like you don't care what it means like it's a magic spell and just go be anything that's not a prayer that's nonsense but if you pray it our father who art in heaven That's written down but you you make your own when you pray it. I think that that's really an important thing Bond hoffer wrote prayers by the way. That's a good opportunity to mention my bon hoffer book. It's ten years Anniversary edition. it's gotta kind of funky cover to it but Bond hoffer in in his life. He wrote prayers out for prisoners. When he was at table prison. They would ask him. Would you write a prayer from me pastor. He was really a pastor in the prison while he was there. And i think that there's nothing wrong with writing down a prayer if it helps you to focus or using someone else's written prayer there are devotional books of prayers that you can buy a. I really think that we have to be really careful. Just because it's written down doesn't mean you need to read like the heathen you know like read it like just bub-bubba bob. I mean i've seen people do that. My whole life where they just. Whether in in the greek church and other churches you know But the these these is like they're not praying they're just reciting and people do the same thing with With with that with any prayer. That's written down. You can just do it to do it. You know with a hail. Mary or the our father. But you can take those same prayers and pray them specifically and personally to god and And i recommend To those of you who struggle with with prayer. I think i said in my interview and graham lots that you know the lord's prayer. Imagine imagine if somebody as jesus how do you pray. Wouldn't it be great if we knew his answer. Will they did. And we know. His answer is called the lord's prayer and you can use that as a template it's written down but you make it your own and you can you can noodle off on on on some of the sentences you can say you know are they will be done the kingdom come and you can. You can ruminate on that in your own words and say what does that mean thy will be done father. I pray that you would bring peace to our city's father. I pray that you would bring you. Pray his will but you use the written text of of the our father. The lord's prayer as a template so those are just a few thoughts. Thanks for listening folks. It is our joy to be with you. Tell your friends about this program. Please subscribe to us on youtube. Don't forget see you later.

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The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For February 16th 2021

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The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For February 16th 2021

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Goodwin and crusaders. Welcome to tuesday february. The sixteenth twenty twenty one. I'm ron stafford reporting from crusade. Shown news desk at stafford studios in beautiful saint michaels maryland. Those support is brought to you by mcclure tables using miskin hardwoods in michigan to make the best made in the usa shuffleboard on the market shuffled out over to mcclure tables dot com. That's m. c. c. l. u. r. e. tables dot com. Here's what to listen for this. Hour republicans go up against nancy. Pelosi school sports and students participation at a church in maine petitions. The supreme court's several republican congressman. Sonny let him bundy to house speaker. Nancy pelosi demanding answers to what she knew concerning security decisions leading up to and including the day of the siege on the capital on january the sixth the letter to pelosi sent by representatives rodney davis of illinois. Jim jordan of ohio. James comber of kentucky and devin nunes of california said quote. Many important questions about your responsibility for the security of the capital remained unanswered as you are aware of the speaker of the house is not only the leader of the majority party but also is responsible for all operational decisions made within the house and other news. Several state legislatures are considering requirements. That student athletes public schools only participate in sports according to their biological sex not according to their gender identity north dakota's house of representatives. Last week passed a bill that would prohibit public schools from allowing minor to participate in an exclusively girls or boys activity opposite their biological sex. The bill would allow girls to participate in school sports for boys or girls teams. Do not exist. Save representative cathy. Squawk a proponent of the bill said quote upholds fifty years of progress and protecting women against discrimination and advocates for the preservation of the biological base standards for females sports competition. Finally a main church is asking the supreme court to put main governors. Janet mills strict pandemic related restrictions on places of worship on hold while it appeals and unfavorable ruling. From a lower court agreeing. The high court has already forced some lower courts to comply with its recent rulings loosening such restrictions emergency application in the case known as calvary chapel of banker versus mills asks the high court to stop the democratic governors clamp down on churches which the churches lawyers described as quote the most severe restrictions in the nation on places of worship delay december. Twenty second twenty twenty ruling against the church by the us court of appeals for the first circuit cavaliers suffering additional hardship because the operational restrictions on the church have had an adverse impact on its calvary residential discipleship program a biblical based ministry that helps men and women who are seeking a way of escape from drugs alcohol or other life controlling issues. A quote comes from saint. Easy to own a of seville prayer purifies us reading instructs us both are good when both possible. Otherwise prayer is better than reading. Coming up are saying today. He wasn't influential man who had been converted by saint paul. You're listening to crusade shadow. New smell that just say the name stake. A mouse begin to water. While chops are being linked Good no one loves steak more than me folks and address stumbling upon a stake cookie secret. I spent the last year perfecting my signature king dudes. Acadian steak rob and cookie system. 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He then met saint paul while paul was in a room in prison shortly after a nissim. Ass- was baptized. Paul then set a letter to fight lehman for onasa freedom so psomas would become one of his own following letters. The epistle to fi- lehman and intrigues vitamin to accept sms. Quote no longer as a slave but more than a slave a brother beloved especially to me filan part of hummus and he returned to faithfully serve. Paul we know that saint paul made him with the barrel of his epistle to the colossians. See colossians chapter four versus seven through nine later saint jerome and other fathers testify. He became an ardent preacher of the gospel and succeeded. Saint timothy as bishop of ephesus. He was cruelly tortured in room for eighteen days by governor who was infuriated by his preaching on the merit of celibacy anonymous. His legs and thighs were broken with bludgeons before he was stoned to death. His martyrdom occurred under domitian in the year. Ninety the only biting allowed at restaurants is the kind that involves food. A canadian restaurant patron allegedly assaulted a staff member and a fellow diner on tuesday night over an apparent mask dispute. According to witnesses the suspect did not appear to be sober during the altercation. Incident happened around seven in the evening at a restaurant in victoria canada. The suspect allegedly entered the restaurant without a mask and appeared to be intoxicated. Witnesses said the man appeared to have been using drugs. A staff reportedly told the man to put on a mask which resulted in the suspect punching the restaurant worker. According to reports civil authorities in customers help to restrain the man until authorities arrived during the scuffle. The suspect allegedly bit another customer. The victim only suffered minor. Injuries said your news tips. 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Bob Lonsberry Show Hr 1 Monday 7-27-20

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Bob Lonsberry Show Hr 1 Monday 7-27-20

"Tom Now for Bob Laws Berry on newsradio WAM eliminate hanks. Great Show Good Morning Rochester. Did they got these things in America called courts. You're right mcclay. Some of them are grass bill now with those hot Williams sisters, I'm talking about courts like with the long black dresses, saying like here you hear ye cancer on country, but like where they gavel and such like that ordering the court like Judge Judy. That obviously so we got courts in America. And thanks to a guy named Marbury who didn't get his job way back in the day we have. This thing called a judicial review. Which means that judges sit there, and as opposed to frigging hosing you on speeding tickets. Okay, 'cause you know they do. Oh, did I tell you about the court vase and he's gotta get his piece, but anyway when they're not busy hosing you on traffic tickets. They got this thing. Thanks to old man Marbury called judicial review, which says like if there's a law or something like that say the legislature comes up with Tom Piece of legislation, or the executive comes up with some rule or regulation, and you make the. Assertion that hey that violates my rights and rights are not just what you think like rights, or what are written down, and maybe someplace real special like the Constitution your your theoretically able to go before a court and get a a a quarter to this thing judicial review. Wherein the court will be the adjudicator. The decider your last place for hope wherein they might gavel down and say no. Get back you nasty, legislation or regulation. You have overstepped their bounds. You have tried upon the sacred ground individual individual liberty so it it courts are good. and not just for the generating revenues for the state courts or good so. and. We looked to them. To interpret. And protect, and so it is it towards the end of last week, couple of rulings on the First Amendment. You've heard of the First Amendment It was written. And created to protect the Gannett a corporation from any sort of liability or responsibility, they write on walls belongs to them Maybe if you sign up, get a subscription You'll be able to read it yourself the the first amendment. Anyway, the point is. That! The First Amendment was cited in two cases towards the end of last week. One involving a a strip club in buffalo or thereabouts, and the other involving a church in Nevada. You ever go to the airport in Buffalo, and you usually do because the fares are lower, but if you go to the airport in Buffalo and you get on the throughway that one exit where you get off, you kinda come around and then you go. There's those guys like sitting on a girder. What to friends with that? You turn right, and then you turn right again and you go down ways and there's the airport well at that second right. By there. There's a strip club with very big signs, and I'll tell you what the bigger signs of the better. I'm talking about boys, but there's a strip club there, right? It turns out. That the First Amendment Rights really likes that Strip club. Because like? The Strip club. was there saying hold it now? Can't keep us from shaking our ties right. No, I don't i. don't care what your covert is. We're going to have lap dances. We're going to I'm right damn now and so I've stopped for break. Okay back to the ties in the moment time for traffic and weather on the ten now on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Radio Whammy Levin. Eighty weather brought to you by William. Muhtar hurt in a car. Call William Muhtar says here on the report from the weather. Place. Hotter than Hell so today we'll be hotter than hell. It will be a maybe storm in the afternoon. Isolated storms could be tense. high in the low nineties is anticipated seventy eight at eight eleven, and you're listening to newsradio eleven eighty. So where I was I own, that's right. buffalo boobs so. I, it turns out that whatever that strip. Club there is called It went to court and it said listen. You're covert. Restrictions can apply to us because when. Lulu Belle, gets up there and shakes her. WHO WHO's She's engaged in First Amendment. Free Expression Right. That's freedom of speech. It's the talking Tatas rules an important part of New York. Law It's why most of us live here to be honest with you. Know, they can talk and let them shout my name, according to what these lawyers say, but the deal is that the Strip club up in Buffalo. It went to court and a judge said by. Gosh, yes. Talking ties is thing the first amendment freedom of expression protects the right to take your clothes off and Gigolo about, and so it is that covid cannot shut down or put undue restriction on this bar, and so it is probably right now. Certain people with alcohol problems and all sorts of personal disorders are sitting there with a whole stack of one dollar bills waiting for the place to open. Thanks to Mr Marbury in the concept of judicial review so beautiful thing this America so that's the case out of buffalo okay. Now got this case out of Nevada just a little bit to the east of Carson City. Calvary Chapel. In Nevada they got this a covert rule. Where if you are a casino bar or something like that? You may sit or allow people in two fifty percent of your capacity, and of course capacity is determined by the fire. Code right so if you're a casino, you can allow in fifty percent of your maximum legal crowd. Did if you're a bar, whatever else like that? If, you are a church or a mask or synagogue, or a whole gone or wherever you might be having to worship in out in the silver state. You are a capped at fifty total people right. It doesn't matter how cavernous I it. Your a sacred Really space may be. it does not matter what capacity is. You May for the purpose of public worship in Nevada under Kovin. Under no circumstances have more than fifty people gathered together, and so these folks Calvary Chapel. They said I. Don't seem right right. Particularly given the fact that the very first specifically numer enumerated right in the United States. Constitution is Congress shall make no law, concerning and establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, even before the founding fathers who were all racists before they got to the point where you have a constitutional right to get the cops face, and call him a mother effort right even before they got to that sacred peaceful search right, they said you you you you. Congress government can't interfere with the free exercise of your religion so these. Folks. Up at Calvary Chapel, they said well, telling us we can't come to church Any. More than fifty of US seems like that's interfering with the free exercise of religion. Because if we were freely exercising hell, we might have sixty two or sixty three in here all shout glory Alleluia. And so the Calvary Chapel people thinking we got a case, right we this. This is not right right I. mean if we put in a slot machine. Can then everybody come to church? So they go to court. It hopscotches up to the supreme. Court And the Supreme Court says go F. Yourself. No the the Supreme Court five to four says No. You do not have a constitutional right. To Congregate. For religious purposes, the power of government is greater than your interest in gathering together to public worship. It was the four Democrats in the one dish. That was the vote. And that's that's America today so again. The Marbury and his concept of judicial, review. The bright people and black dresses. Coats have told us in recent days the first amendment. Absolutely protect your right to take off your shirt. Hike up your G. String and goal a wiggle yourself. For a the people with the sexual dysfunctions, right? That's Sacred First Amendment right. But fifty one people in a chapel where Spin God you can. That's bad. No, you can see your stripper, but you can't see your priest. That's America Twenty Twenty back with you in just a moment on newsradio cam eleven eighty. Eighty weather brought to you by William. Muhtar hurt in a car. Call William Muhtar. Going to be a hot sultry day perfect summer day, many ways, but like many summer days there's the potential this afternoon for some locally significant storms watch out for those a high in the low nineties. Nineteen, ninety one is possible seventy-nine at eight, twenty two and you're listening to Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Thinking about public urination lately. for me, personally public urination has always been something of a punchline. there was a very brief time in my late teens and early twenties where I had it in my head that I was going to take a leak in the middle of Main Street every place I lived not a good thing. it it and it came about when I was about sixteen seventeen years of age walking back from a dance up at the high school in Kansas deal and It was the dark of the night. It was me and my friend Ronnie And Castio has like one in intersection main street there and we stopped and we stood, and we talked, and we in one of those kind of what will life bring us conversations. Where do we live now? Kind things talking about a future switch neither one of his turned out would ever have the one I thought I would have did not come, and sadly Ronnie died as a young man, but any rate. For whatever reason we went out in the middle of mainstream took league right there, it pure audacity and stupidity. Anyway, this isn't the point, but for a while that was I thought stuff like that was funny, not to be indecent. Whatever else like that? No one ever saw, but just to say I took a league out there. Well Anyway, I've been thinking more about public urination lately. because something I saw a week or so ago at the universalist UNITARIAN church over here I was coming. I was running back towards a broadcast central. I've been out over the the noon hour on on a run, and there was a man who was sort of up along side of the church behind a pillar in in an alcove area, and he was taken a leak a espn against the church. And when I first saw than an end cliques in your mind and I'm thinking man how disrespectful to go pee on a church right particularly one like that which I think has a pretty long strong record of like doing outreach and caring and feeding people and stuff like that. But as as I took another couple of strides, and I thought well, why is he right there? And as I looked at the geography of the deal, it occurred to me that what he had done was found the place. where there was no line of sight where he could have a privacy and where he would not a scandal is a or offend anybody else. And it occurred to me that as opposed to an act of disrespect, he pete against a church sort of an act of of modesty in that he found that place where he could do what had to be done without giving offense to anyone else, and as to the church and stuff like that. It does rain around here in. This wasn't exposed area and it'll wash away fine. At any rate that's triggered something in my head, and as I've run over the week or so since. I have noticed where people urinate in public because you can smell it, and here's the deal it's. It's almost always just that. In a place of visual seclusion, there is a biological reality. People have kidneys and bladders. There also is a a a social, and maybe even spiritual reality, people don't want to be modest or unduly offensive, and so there might be some guy out there. Taking a leak It is because he has to go, and there's no place else to go and my observation. Than I is overwhelmingly, folks try politely to find someplace where for just a half a second. They won't offend you, but can relieve themselves. With Todd how they then you on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Well come back. What I'm barely recovered I and if I today sound a little off, if like a Bob, there's not as much wind in your sails, or if I sound emotionally fragile. just a second I had to click click. CAPE CAME by. Very, emotional man, and you know it. A horrible trauma I saw Friday. And then that big protests in shut down four ninety. No it was Oh, it was. All that's right. It didn't happen. Okay, nevermind, hey turns out. I'm not emotionally damaged at all. In fact, I think that that did you see that Friday? It was Mikey in the misfits I. think that's that they had an album one time. Didn't they gray almost hit? But it was Mike in the misfits, and they got together and. They said. You know we're not GONNA know we're not going to have a protest because police. The police did not talk to us the troopers. They got home rough like like they might give it a. Something and so we're not GONNA do it. We're going to. Here's the thing. My Mother Taught Me when people do what you want them to do to say. Thank you and so whatever happened to call off the ill-conceived protested Friday. Thank you whether it was Mikey in the misfits come to their senses, or whether was a police or the troopers, saying how we're not going to go for that crap this time and leaning. Leaning in and whispering in somebody's ears You're going to meet the FLEXICUFFS. Whatever took place where it'd be? It might it might have been the mayor in might have been the the protesters in might have been the troopers. It might have been I. Don't know, but the right thing happened and I am grateful for that and so Thank you. of course then. Mikey and the message thing if you saw some of the photos that came out of that, but you had like three or four or five protesters quote unquote fist in the air people and it looked like seven or eight gazillion reporters. It may merely. But the. The. Dangerous Wings Zoe that was was that hold it. Is this the frigging Gong Show? Have I just been gone off. The Am I. where where's Chuck Berry's? Sam I. Just Been Gone off the air. I'm sorry I was sending an email and the somebody wrote back in the pot was up and it's still a lot of things sorry. Sorry about attention. one that you've got time during the show right email. Don't worry about it. You actually I. Tell Them I, said Hi. Even more surprising that anyone would write back. Roseanne I am glad that your social life is developing I told you hygiene is the place to start. So I if the. When you get an email, it makes that sound. Yeah, the because I do not recognize that sound. Yeah, when I see my company outlook email when it pops up. Okay, we'll hold on just a second pod data backup. Right? Okay second now you're sending it to me right now. If I could make my computer work, Hey, that wasn't a complaint. saying second here now, subject line you suck. I might get filtered out prints the ovarian. Take. You blow. Because that's. Only kidding. Okay now push okay now. We're oil set. Yup I. Want I might run a stop. Watch on, see how long it takes. You know, relate for traffic and weather. Yeah, well, let's do the experiment after that. Then die for traffic weather on the tens on Newsradio whammo Lebanon. newsradio Cami Levin Eighty weather brought to you by William Muhtar. Hurt in a car. Call William Muhtar. Be Some thunderstorms this afternoon. There'll be. Localized meaning, you probably won't see one, but if you do, it could be a heck of a deal. Humid today high in the low nineties, heat index rather significantly higher than that even eighty degrees at eight, forty two and you're listening to Newsradio wham eleven eighty. We're going to temporarily not talk about Mike in the misfits and their terroristic threat, and a for a second conduct a you're familiar with the the the interweb in the concept of emails, saying absolutely swear by the way Voice of section fine I'm going to send an email to your work account. And I'm going to push. Stop Watch, and we'll see how long it takes for the sound it apparently, if someone accidentally leaves something on, it makes a sound on the air. Yes, disrupting I don't know could be sixty seventy thousand listeners right now. Alternate, what was that? What was that saying? several people thinking it was their co worker being flatulent. Okay, I'm going to send it now. Takes. Wow. We're at five seconds. Sits it To to ten seconds. Mind Gosh. That's we should get the premium air. We go seventeen seconds seventeen seconds for media you. It'd be. It'd be lot more efficient for me to say hey, Sam but no communicated latronic right or I could just put the pot down so you don't have here that. Yeah well one thing I'd like to do. We communicate electronically that just a preserves us all from a lot of interpersonal. Perfect perfect. Oh my gosh. That's a Sam Schreier there, but here's the deal relative to Mike in the misfits. You know what I'm talking about. They're the ones. There are so many different groups of angry fists in the air. telling you how you suck I don't have them all straight, but they're really good. Really good at talking to television, cameras and television cameras are really good at finding them I mean. Mean can't find any other news most the time, but they're really really good at finding protest and protest organizers. Okay so a Mike in the misfits, the Friday afternoon group we're GonNa shut down for ninety And then they decided not to I half think I think somebody with a gun. The bad said really sorry. It's not play day anymore, so you don't WanNa do this all right. NO WE'RE GONNA defunding. Okay but I'm to arrest your ass I. Okay. Is that all right So anyway after. Capitulating saying we'RE NOT GONNA do it again, they we didn't want them to do it. They didn't do it, so thank you very much folks. I appreciate that it was thoughtful. You go to city council have a demonstration. That doesn't block the road. He's a write letters petite. newsradio whammy Levin Eighty weather brought to you by William Muhtar hurt in a car. Call William Muhtar to be a wonderfully hot humid summer day again. The heat index will be in the mid to upper nineties. The temperature will be eighty ninety ninety one, so it could tax you much. Be careful in. There could be some locally significant thunderstorms this afternoon It's a grease at eight fifty two and you're listening to Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Sam Schreier. Desert you. You Killed Regis Philbin. Is that there's some something you did. No. Yeah, so so two thousand and. Three I'm going to say maybe two thousand to two thousand three. I worked for ADT security services down Henrietta. Yeah Nice Yeah. Call Center Guy Very Nice Yeah and. In fact, I had just gotten promoted to be a I was doing inbound calls, so someone had the lar-. There was an alarm that went off at one of his houses. I think by the water is being regis villains houses, YEP and so he was returning a phone call that has alarm had gone off at that location. Okay, and when he called up, he's I didn't know it was him on the phone because there was no caller ID and I didn't I didn't realize until after I was verifying all the information, and then once he realized that I, knew who he was. He was kind of going real. Quick through the call. And, he said that his wife was staying at that. House and he asked me if I could call her to make sure she's okay because she's alone. So I called. Nobody answered the phone. I left a message. You Know Adt security Just just you know just verifying. Everyone's the calls back and let us know. So The next day on his show. He the Kathy Lee was talking to him about You know what happened. How everything going and he goes had a really bad and that ain't told the whole story elaborate story any mention me by name. He said I I called it the security company T. he's talked to a very nice guy named Sam and told the whole story about how I helped. Hope I hope he called the call my wife to make sure she's okay he's like. Do you know if you called and I remember I? Remember him saying say well. No, he didn't call me back to tell the fuse okay or not. So, so they called around the air to make sure she will. Be Yeah Yeah, but he remember your name the next morning. Remember my name the next Mornings I. I'm not sure your name right now. I got the I actually got. I called Channel Ten at the time. Just because I didn't actually, I wanted a copy of it because I told people to story. Nobody believe me I've been known stories in my day right so people. But thanks for giving us a heads up there. So. I got a copy of the got a copy of the the video they actually sent the they sent it to me to my to my house got it, so it was. It was kind of cool. That's very very nice. How was he on the phone very nice, some very nice. That's good. I'm so glad I'm sorry. His passing he was away the eighty nine or eight hundred. Eighty eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably on television more than any other human being ever has been. He was at so many different shows. It's funny I probably haven't seen them on TV and quite. It's quite some time. Though right I mean the last time I remember while ago he he set up this the lady who's on there now. the Kelly Ripa up when I'm not a fan of her yet, but but he added. I think that was his last on their okay for. Was a kathy. Lee Gifford. They were such a team I thought. Yeah, but the thing is show. His show did so well for a long time and I remember I, remember he he. They used to be the daytime slot. If you WANNA watch before they, they came up with all these other shows that were coming on in the in the morning time. There remember that was always A. If you wanted to go, see a good. Good show live That was his his show to do. Have you ever gone to a live TV show? have not ahead a chance to see Conan O'Brien back when he was working for NBC at the time but we went to the baseball game instead the was quieting with the time. No, but I I've heard that taping person pretty cool. To See I went to one once, but it was. It was the brother we show at Channel Eight. They did alive. They did that for a very briefly many years ago. brother. We's did a Saturday night late. TV Show in the wonderful auditorium there. WOW, channel eight. Yeah, I, I've been to channel eight to watch the news like I've seen like the local news live and stuff so I I remember. Yeah, the bigs yeah, that's cool. Yeah, but that's as good as Chit Chat. It is at Sam Schreier right. They're also voices section five. We'll be back after Todd Halliday's newscast find out how covert street and genesee county coming up on newsradio eleven eighty.

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Eric at Calvary Chapel

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Eric at Calvary Chapel

"Twelve to the program. I believe it's tuesday. I really wouldn't know off the calendar albin. I've decided to go off the grid. What am i off the grid. Iron just mean physically in terms of geographical location. But i'm going off the calendar. I ranking ice days of the week. I don't recognize anything anymore. It's just today okay. Well you're big enough now to do whatever you want with the we exactly. I said when. I get big. I'm going off the grid off all off the calandra rid and that's gregorian and julian. Because i don't care. That's the kind of power i have right now. A mad drunk with power. Okay alvin we gotta tell people. Today we are playing I preached at calvary chapel chino hills a week and a half ago. Seems like can be just a week and a half. It's amazing I was one of my folks in connecticut This past weekend the previous weekend. i was at calvary chapel. Chino hills california jacobs church. We're going to play that sermon. This weekend i fly to sonko. Say which is near suffered a cisco san francisco california which is now i believe Reclining by mexico. Am i getting that right. I think so. Or can't we can't out like nicaragua francisco. San francisco was saying who was the francis animals. And so san francisco san jose san diego. Those places are all named it. It's obvious that mexico really owns california. They're gonna take it over. Released gavin newsom. Listen to this drawn and quartered. Isn't that interesting. Yeah yeah that's that's the first thing you're going do listen. This'll wanna hear about about. You wrote something about so culture. The muppets i'll tell okay. Yeah in fact. You sound like a muppet right there and it reminded me that i think it was over the weekend. Disney put out this whole thing about how the muppets now have to come with a warning okay. So it's kind of like a little bit of censorship there on the muppets and instantly. It reminded me of the mccarthy hearings. It was like the mccarthy hearings all over again. i mean. Think about it for i. They came for charlie mccarthy and edgar. Bergen did not speak out because he was not a puppet. We'll woke oh alvin. I'm sorry this is too good to just jump in. This is what martin niemoeller who was friends with dietrich hoffer. He wrote the famous poem. And you are now applying this to what is going on with the muppets. This is really important folks. Listen up go ahead. yeah okay. And then then they came for lamb chop and jerry lewis did not speak up because she was not a puppet then they came for cucolo and france and only did not speak up even though he was a pop it. No no no. Oh you're right eight because fran ais friend did not speak up but she was she was she was a human being. Who cla fran. and ollie. Speak up please continue. Yes and now. Of course they've come for kermit. The frog miss piggy and all the muppets and jim henson. He can't speak up because he passed away in nineteen ninety. So there you have it while the and now they're gonna come for the rest of us dummies. So you've got gotta be you know. That was funny. That was good album that was. Let's keep head in the show okay. They're gonna come for guns. Oh they're gonna come from fuzzy the bear. they're gonna come for all of them up. It's gonna say because. I tweeted this out the other day and got zillion re tweets if you think things are going crazy folks. That's because they are but here's the point. They're not really going crazy because most of us see that things are going crazy when they're canceling the muppets. When the cancelling mike lindell when they're canceling me when the you just know something ridiculous is happening. It cannot happen in america because we still have a voice and we will use our voice while we have. Our voice I have this program. I have social media. But you've gotta use your voices. This is part what. I talk about in the sermon at chino hills. So we're going to run that today both hours. It was the long a sermon. We already have it on our youtube. Pay if you wanted to just go there and watch me deliver it Rather than listen to it but we're gonna play it in both hours today. It is a kind of real madness album that we are experiencing this. I said yesterday amazon is no longer carrying my friend. Ryan anderson's book when harry became sally's about transgender craziness. Right well they think they banned abigail shriners book. We had we had her on this program or some other store. Bandit when people are doing this we need to stand up. If you don't stand up ladies and gentlemen you are part of the problem. You are part of the problem. You must speak. You must act. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not speak is to speak not to act is to act. God will not let hold us guilt lists. We are obliged to do something when we see this madness so in anybody tried to cancel someone else number one. You need to support the person whom they're trying to cancel so they've tried to do that to mean a number of ways. They tried to do that. Horrified to mike lindau. I will say on almost every program please go to mypillow dot com and my store dot com and use the code. Eric we need your support on this program. Del really needs your support. Please go to mypillow dot com and my store dot com and use the code eric Most although at my store dot com. And i wanna that because amazon is now getting involved in the cancel culture. We need to find alternative venues For how we can Get our books and other things. So that's why. I want to say my book Many books are available at my store. dot com. use the code. Eric get a big discount. Also stock redes in the city. Dot com has many of my books available signed copies. And let's not forget. Alvin my the this this program. Yeah we can. Oh you can get albums books. And mike and books where what's the website it's called us shop metaxas dot com but if you go to metaxas radio dot com right. Not what a whoa wait. You're the producer. I think you need to know the website. It's metaxas talk dot com. I just had a brain freeze. Its metaxas talk dot com. It's been that way and producer. Can you imagine how bad it is for the rest of the world. This is i know challenge taxes dot com where people just fatigue but folks. Listen there's no we're not asking much a please take take take control of where your dollars go. I spent like zillions at amazon and stuff and probably will continue to spend money there because there aren't great alternatives but when we find other alternatives may be we need to send a message to amazon And do whatever we can so again. I will say most of my books are available at mypillow dot com. You gonna my store dot com. Use the code eric You can go to socrates in the city dot com if you go to taxes us dot com which is just this radio website Metaxas talk dot com and you can click through mature metaxas dot com but honestly you can get hats mugs t shirts and my books and albums books. You can get them there. We need to speak up so today if you listen my sermon at mills which were running in both hours today. You'll hear me talk a little bit about this kind of thing tomorrow. Alvin were running My socrates in the city. Conversation with peter thiel one of the geniuses entrepreneurs of our time spoke to him about i guess about a year and a half ago at socrates in the city. And we're going to be running that tomorrow. Because i will be out of pocket as they say. I'm going to be down at the tbn studios recording a ton of stuff. So i won't be able to do the program tomorrow. Thursday we hope to have john zamira act zamira on the program. Just just mentioned real quick about drawn a friend reverend john rankin if you go to rev john rankin dot com. You can go and you can contribute to to help his ministry as well. He's passed away and they're looking for raising funds there as well. He's great need his wife and daughter need our help and so i wanted to publicize that it's our rev john. Rankin dot com rev. John rankin dot com. We'll be talking to his sons on this program In the weeks ahead. His sons chattan stewart As we jeremy passed away a year for john did really tragic. But god is on his throne rev john rankin dot com so in both hours. Today we are airing my Sermon at chino hills. The first hour is obviously the first half and the second hour is the second half and this is just the intro. I try to make its own days. God damn depress said please give a warm welcome to a tremendous man of god and a wonderful friend and a great great speaker. As you'll know in a moment eric metaxas. what's happening. Praise the lord. Hallelujah thank you. Jesus god bless you sit down because this will go to my head. I'm telling you you don't want that to happen. I'm insufferable as it is so what a blessing. Why are there so many of you here. I'm really uncomfortable with this. What's happening now. I love the idea that somebody's going to try to sign. I talked very quickly. It's going to be very difficult. I'm very sorry. I'm going to speak way too fast. Even just to watch what happens over there. I'm going to watch this. I'm a new yorker. So new yorkers speak too fast. And i just apologize in advance. There's nothing i can do about it. There's a few of you here. This morning i've noticed. And i my wife is She's going to be at the third service because why get up. If you don't have to which which brings me to the question. Why were there so many people at seven fifteen am service. Do you guys understand that they said to me. When you see the when you see the next service you'll see why we went to the seven fifteen like what what it's too crowded and it makes you uncomfortable so you need more room. I don't know but i was fascinated but people would get up for seven fifteen. Am service and so. Thank you for being here. I feel at home. I would come to this service. I would never go to a seven fifteen service. If i was required to by passenger jack and they got a pay pl services. But i'm just amazed at the number of people here. And i know there are people beyond this room someplace watching. God bless you guys and you're lucky you didn't come in your because the stench. I don't know what's going on right. Why it's bad god has spirit you. Something's going on now. I'm just saying that. I could say anything. What do they know. what are they know. It's unbelievable listen. I always want to start out the most important thing if i leave you with. Just one thought as deliver god's word it would be that if you go to mypillow dot com. You know. I said if you go if you go you want to support a violent insurrectionist you go there free country and the most important thing. I can feel the anointing when i say this. Use the code eric. that's the most. That's the most important thing if i don't get struck by lightning it's because the lord is sense of humor also means that he invented people. I talked about this a lot lately. The part of what we're facing in the wo- culture and by the way the cultures not woke. It's just the cultural leaders. Who gave you the impression that they're more of them than there are. Most americans are not insane. You gotta understand that. Which is why we know it's right but but a big part of it is the lack of the sense of humor. And because i'm always joking around even when i'm not joking around. I got this kind of humorous edge of half joking and stuff and so now that i'm the enemy of like this is. I knew it would happen eventually. But but if they come after you they quo you even when you're joking like he was serious right like i will say outrageous things as a joke but they don't have a sense of humor. They're like oh really okay. So we're going to quote ed. We're gonna quit. We're living in crazy time. did you know that. Did you know that the times. We're living in utterly unprecedented but the good news is the lord. He kind of knows what's going on. It's not like we're alone. We have the lord with us and if we didn't we'd be in big trouble but we do so we're not so i want to tell you i wanna talk a little bit about where we are in the culture. I also want to tell you a little bit about myself The myself part. I wrote a book which just came out. And i think that's the one that they have here but it's called fish out of water a search for the meaning of life and i want to say that i wrote this book because i wanted something that we can give to people who are not on the same page as we are the logically or politically just something that we can. We can share something with them without feel like we're gunning for their head. You know what. I mean like his christian sometimes like they come at you with both barrels and they want to talk about jesus every second and there are many people in the world. Who if you have that attitude. They're going to run now. People are running from you in running from jesus and you're part of the reason the running from jesus that's bed we don't we don't want to be that. We want to be sensitive to god. And so i just wanna say that i wrote the. It's really the story of my life until i had my conversion dramatic experience around my twenty fifth birthday. The lord spoke to me in a dream in a way that was utterly miraculous absolutely utterly miraculous. It completely blew my mind. And i knew jesus as lord and it's game over i'm done. I found the meaning of life. I found the meaning of truth. And the but you know what before that i was there. Were times where you're looking for it and you but you don't know if it even exists. I i wanna. I wanna help us understand. There are many people a lot of times in our minds as believers. We act like either. You're saved where you're an eight this atheist marxist right most people are not most people in america for example. They're just working hard and they just haven't bumped into what you by god's grace alone you happen to bump into and so they're not hostile to it. They don't even know what they think. And we play a big role in what they think. And how we deal with them and so on and so forth but part of my story of growing up is that my parents were really good people. And they had a respect for god but they didn't know him the way i know him now and i thought to myself. It's interesting because you get the impression. Sometimes that people are are out and it's black and white and whatever now we know if you're not in heaven you're out okay but that doesn't mean that everyone who's not exactly where we are working for the devil. Now that gets complicated but the reason i say this because i want to say that i grew up in a community. That was a wonderful community. I can actually tell you. My father is greek from greece. My mom is german from germany. They came over here in the fifties. They met in an english class in new york city and english class chaucer. I'm talking about like learn how to speak english. And if you're raised greek and german. As i was that means by definition you will be raised. Greek the a scoring at home greeks no. They can't help but they know that they're the best ethnishity. What are they supposed to do. Apologize for it. They know they're better like they invented democracy and their languages better in and look the bible. You know the new testaments written in greek. God knows his the best that. Why would he use greek. Why because this is at the greek no this and that's bad that they know that because they walk around like yeah we we. We were there. I we are the ones that are so. I grew up in the in that world. Okay now the problem of course. Is that if you raise the community. You go to the greek church. I went to the greek parochial school. When i was in queens new york and the problem was my mother was german so i was not hundred percent greek. And you feel that you're hanging out with the greeks and they're all they speak at home. We spoke english at home because my mother didn't speak greek my father and speak german. We spoke english so we felt a little bit. Like i didn't belong that much. And i was trying to be more greek to fit in right so when you are growing up in the. It's actually to larry us when you think this was not some horribly scarring thing okay. I'm not gonna pretend like my book is about you know. I defeated this horrible wound. I was my father. Beat me down no. I was blessed by my mother and father but it is true that i felt like a fish out of water. And that's why the title book is fish out of water. Because you feel like you're not you don't really belong quite. you're trying to get in. But i had that experience throughout my life mention a couple of the cases but the lord in the dream that i talked about at the end of the book reveals himself to me in a way where the term fish out of water has a different meaning and it was so mind blowing i. I don't think i'm going to really tell that to you. But it's just it was a dream where you just know this god. This was got. He knows me. He knows the details of my life. He knows the greek party knows that he knows each of us. In a way that we don't know ourselves even our spouses our parents that you know they know us sometimes better than we know ourselves but god knows us infinitely better than that and that's an important thought for us just to think for a second that is true. Sometimes we think theoretically it's true but it's actually true the lord in this dream which is at the end of my book he reveals this to me. And that's what blew. My mind was like boom over. I have no doubt this god. He's real but growing up. I grew up in the greek orthodox church and they didn't really give you the gospel. They kind of assume. You're greek your christian boom. That's it you're not a turkey and a muslim. You're not an atheist. Come on you know your greek. that's it now. There's a lot of people around the world like that. In my book. I read about the germans. They felt the same thing. We're lutherans invented protestantism. Come on all you have to do is be german. Your lutheran you're done you don't eat. You're going to do anything about it. And it's all about grades right not exactly in some ways it is but so the point is that there are a lot of people that they carry around this ethnic pride and they proud but it can go too far and so growing up in the greek church. It was like we're greek word. That's it we're done like you know you got baptized and you. You go to church all right. What do you want. When i was going up in school. And when you bump into kind of the born again world and this is why. I tell this story. 'cause i want people who are not where i am in terms of faith to identify with the character who was me that i remember looking at the born again believers who are going talking about jesus is their problem. I go to church. Like i don't have to talk about it do i. Yes you should talk about it if you really believe it. It's not a bad idea to talk about a once in a while it's only about eternity so but there a lot of people like that you may know some. You've probably have relatives and neighbors. Like they believe. They say they believe but come on. They don't wanna be a fanatic like you and and that's a realistic point of view. Sometimes we can be very unattractive and how we live or how we portray things and there are plenty christians. We've all met them. And i'm sure some of if that would raise your hand. I'm just curious but there are christians that they're about their christianity. The way my father and others are about being greek like it's their. it's their hobby they. They're wearing their wearing. First century sandals biblical. Living in that. You're like can we like just watch the football game and you could shut up and like we could focus on the play or do we have talked about. Had jesus related to that play. Some people get really religious. And that's not the same as living at your faith. We have to understand. There's there's a line there was a time to be talking about. Jesus and then there's another time when you can kind of assume jesus right if you look at a tree you know that. That tree was invented by the lord. He invented that tree the atoms in that tree the molecules in that tree are doing what they're doing because the lord is there okay. The electrons would not be going around the nuclei unless the lord. We're making that happen. The lord is involved in every aspect of that tree. But you don't say a christian tree you don't say that when you eat an apple. The apple was god's idea right heating up christian apple too. So you know he's got saved in the sixties you don't you don't get into that because we sometimes we get very religious and we forget i actually took colson. Who was my hero. And then i worked for him and then he became my friend he always like in. Every speech would quote abraham kuyper. He was this dutch theologian and statesman. And abraham kuyper said famously. I only know this. Because chuck's at every speech he said khyber said that there is not one square inch over all creation over which jesus christ who is sovereign does not say mine every part of creation belongs to the lord not just the religious part. We got to think about that. Everything belongs to him every good thing. All love is god's love if it's real love. It's god's love even if you don't know it so i say that because i think about their many people that we know and there's a lot of god in their lives even if they don't acknowledge it even if they don't know it and we can still acknowledge it as god if you see a husband who is faithful to his wife and showing her kind of love even if he doesn't know it. That's from god. If you see a woman who is beautiful you say that's beauty is created by god. Whatever you see that is good is from the lord and we as the church meet to reclaim those things. Stop saying like everything's of the devil except my religious corner that's not true. That's a lie. The devil actually everything that is good as we've got so the parents of the my parents had for me growing up. They weren't talking about jesus. They weren't reading the bible. But i now know looking back. Why did god use them to bless me. He did that. He loved me through them in a way that was beautiful but they didn't say like yeah it's guy love. Let me tell you about. The new testament got they. They didn't know that. Actually it's not true. My father knows greek words and he'll beat you over the head because it's not because his new testament it's great i've got they got so but the point is i look back and i realize that a big part of my life had to do with the way. My parents raised me. Who were not officially venture locales right. But what did they know. They knew for example good and evil because they grew up in europe. Which was they lived through the hell of the war they had seen evil they had seen communism they. They raised me to hate communism or socialism. Whatever it's called. They knew it was evil and consequently they knew that freedom in america is wonderful. They knew that now. What's interesting is a lot of the american kids. I grew up with had american parents. They didn't really get that they can like what. What's the big deal. This is normal. But if you're coming from the other side this is not normal. This is far from normal. What you had this freedom. You have here this opportunity. What no no. There's a reason people are fighting to come here because this is very abnormal so my mom and dad came here from dark places germany. My mother came from not only was war torn germany but after the war where she lost her father at age ten. She lost her father. My father lost his father at age. Ten they they had suffered through these things and my mother after the war germany part of germany where she lived. My family still lives there was taken over. By the soviets became east. germany became communist. My mother had this propaganda in her high school classes. She said i couldn't take it. It was was was horrible. None of us lived through that so in america we think well how bad could it be. How could socialism be. How bad could government control be it can be very evil and we need to know that and that's why we need to speak up very loudly and very courageously now. But i didn't really need to know that my parents they just told me that because they lived it. I know there's some people probably from cuba here. I mean if you are from those places. You don't need any tutorial on the evil of communism or socialism or government control. You know that is the enemy of freedom and it will crush you. It has no respect for you as a human being. Communism is also by definition atheism. Okay and when. I say atheism atheists because it's a free country you don't have to believe in god but i wanna tell you apiarists mentality says there's no god therefore what is there's no power there's been good at st freedom is a gift from god. He wants us to be free so we can serve him so we can preach the gospel so we can make a lot of money and give money to people who are suffering and struggling. God god wants to use us and wants to bless us so we can be a blessing. And that's that's part of what god has done in america. So that doesn't mean america is by definition a great because we're great we're centers just like everybody else but the ideas that we've been bequeathed by god through the founders have enabled us to send the gospel around the world to send missionaries to send medicine to send all kinds of stuff around the world. Now why would we even do that. Because we have an idea. As a nation that the idea of john winthrop who is who is preaching in sixteen. Thirty when he gave the sermon. He's quoting jesus he says we want this colony massachusetts to be a shining city on a hill. He's quoting jesus is saying. I want people to look at what we have an essay. I want that. Who are those people. How do they get that. What is that. Jesus has shining city on a hill winthrop. Preaches that sermon. And that has gone through or history. Sometimes people don't get it but generally we have gotten that idea. Many presidents have ordered that idea that we ought to be a shining city on a hill. Think about it. we're supposed to exist for others. that's like the church it's a it's a it's a biblical value right that we want people to look at what we have at our at our greatness at our freedom and our wealth at all these things and say i want that. Can i get that. Can i go. There can we. Can we bring some of that over here. That's the idea. We're we're blessed to be a blessing and just as the church who said it. The famous idea that the church is the only organization in the world that is primarily existence for those who are not yet members. Right that's evangelism. We're here to reach beyond ourselves and america in many ways has been blessed with that. That's why the statue of liberty is facing outward. Think about it. There's the shining torch of liberty facing outward and saying. Bring me your your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. We've said to the world if we can accommodate you. We want you to come. We want you to take our ideas and make them your own ideas. We want you to come here. And you can become as americans george washington and other the color of your skin ethnicity. It's not about anything you buy into the set of ideas so my mother and father with their accents my dad's ninety-three praise the lord. My mom little younger. She doesn't give out her age. But i think she's in her fifties my parents you know. I didn't really realize this until later in life but my parents buying into these ideas and they learned the english language and they want to be americans at the became citizens and so forth and you realize that they are as american as george washington. That's what america is about a city of course nuts about ideas and these ideas are beautiful ideas and these kinds of ideas are not normal for the world. I wanna say that again so growing up. I learned that my father and mother they would hear the stories of their growing up what they went through and i knew like i don't know why i get to be in america but i am blessed and so many of my friends. They didn't get that now. When i went to yale university in case you didn't know yale was woke in one thousand nine hundred a two. Okay these places have led the world in these bad ideas and so people say you proud. You went to yell absolutely. Not it's like. It's like paul. You know talking about his credentials and he says these things are done. These things are horrible. But if i can use these credentials to impress some people so maybe they'll listen to what i have to say. That's great but i know that those things are nothing that jesus is everything in these. Things are nothing in the case of he'll way less than nothing because places like that now. I didn't say. I grow up in this environment. In middle america went to danbury connecticut move from new york to danbury. And by the time i went to to yell i had no idea what i'm walking into walking into a buzzsaw right because i'm race. I'm working class kid. My parents worked hard love. America appreciate things work hard and suddenly. I'm among the cultural elites okay. Who already have a globalist socialist mentality operating right. So get yale. And i noticed. There's real anti-americanism here. I've ever encountered that. You know this was during reagan. And i thought this is interesting. This is what the movers and shakers. I grew up in a working class. Home this is. This is what they think. And that's where it starts and that's always where it started but it was really far along in the eighties already so being somebody who didn't really know what he believed because i didn't really get the gospel in the bible and all that stuff in church very much was a cultural experience. By the time. I get to this place. I don't know what's coming and it really affected me and i'm sure some of you have kids that you understand what i'm talking about right. You get affected by your environment. And i was one of them. I just i didn't become like a marxist but i definitely lost whatever my parents had given me in kind of drifted over into believing that you know america is maybe a force for bad probably and probably communism is not really a bad idea who knows and definitely christians are crazy and they think they've cornered the market on truth and they're obnoxious and whatever you know all those ideas that are among the elite culture right now which is why you hear it so much because those are the talking heads on tv and in different places the culturally and they really believe these things and so. I'm among these people without really knowing exactly what i believed to. I believe personality. I dunno these really rise from the dead. I don't know i never thought about that. Is the bible really. What about this. And this and this and this i gosh. I don't know well by the time i graduate you can. I was extremely confused. I was you know a marxist easiest but neither was i any kind of serious christian with american values. I understood the eddie. I was just kinda like everybody else and now. Here's where the problem comes in at a place like yale. They've already determined that if you the title. The book is fish out of water. A search for the meaning of life. Right if you're searching for the meaning of life the first question is is there such a thing right. Is there such a thing. I remember being there and even wondering is there. Such a thing as truth is even such a thing. Is god now. if you know. There's god god reveal yourself to me whatever. But what if you don't even know if there is a god. What have you been told that people believe that stuff. They're kind of crazy and they pretend that they know. But you know if you're intellectually actually honest. There's no way you can know. Well that's the idea. And so i didn't even know what i was thinking and what i didn't know that i know now. Is that in the olden days. A long time ago education was answering the big questions. Who am i. Who is god. What is my purpose on this earth. What is the meaning of life. The answers are in the scripture and people would would teach those things in various ways. But when you get to the twentieth century and then he gets a nine hundred eighty the elites had already figured it all out there is no meaning of life. There is no god. It's very depressing. So we're not going to talk about. So what would they do. They kind of say well. First of all the background is we now. We know that we evolved the primordial soup. There's no god so we just kind of came into being through random mutations and accidents and we just got here by accident. Survival of the fittest. Your life really has no intrinsic value. You're just an accident and you're really no different than a bug or a stone or whatever you just happen to be here so life has no meaning and places no meaning. There's no god it really means that there's no such thing as good or evil. These are constructs that we have come up with. And if that's true in life literally has no meaning there's no good and evil and there's no god and we're alone in the universe who can really face how bleak that is it's beyond horrifying but almost no one ever has the courage to face that they talk about it a little bit but they cannot face the bleakness of life. They can't they're cowards. In a way now there are few people who would people like move or start. Not that i'm really familiar with the writings. But the point is they were not happy about their atheism. They felt like this is not good. What do we do about this right. Woody allen is actually like that of the privilege actually not a privilege of meeting him a few times. But there's people that they've kind of figured this out they believe what i just said. And they're looking at it straight and they're not happy the only thing they think about as well. I'm glad i'm not like you crazy. People who believe there is a meaning in life because you're really nuts but they're not happy about it. They know that it's like a nightmare and they've got just deal with it. Well that's not a bad place to be because most of us aren't like that. So when i was at yale they didn't say you have primordial soup. And there's there's nothing right and then for darwin then freud says oh and by the way the sexual impulse that's behind everything because the species just wants to continue the species so all those feelings you have like your love for your spouse. That's just chemicals that through evolution steering around so that you can continue the species. There's there's no such thing as love. That's just that transcendent idea. that's just chemicals. This is so depressing. Nobody can faces so at a place like what they do. They say. Listen we're not gonna get into that meaning a lifestyle. That's the crazy. People talk about that. The christians or whatever here we're gonna talk about just get a good job. Don't think about those big because you're depressing. Don't think put it out of your mind. Get a good job. Work hard and distract yourself on the weekends like sports and alcohol and in a few decades. They'll be over so just don't think about it right. They don't say that but that's the clear message. Here's where i went wrong. I was an english major. Wanted the a writer. So obviously i did not get a good job i graduated and a it was not good. I was floundering and floating and drifting plenty of time to think about the meaning of life very bad. And if you graduate college and you float in drift it's like euclidean theorem. There is no way out of this. This has to happen. You will move back in with your parents that's it. There's no escape you float you drift. Move back with your parents. There's no there's no other way now. That wouldn't be so bad but if your parents are working working class european immigrants now you've got a problem because they're not going to say eric or sonny's writer. He's finding himself no eric. We need to find a job. You need to get out of here and by the way you know. My parents are thinking we worked. Menial jobs horrible jobs two jobs to send you to yale. We didn't get to go to college or live in america. What is happening here so in that year living with my parents. We'd have told you that it's no fun. Did i tell you that. I mentioned that they'll eat you alive like you'd be like i don't know what to do with my life will like we know what to do with your life. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna hook you up a friend who's a painter. He needs some help. And when we're lost god he might be doing something behind the scenes because he loves us right. Maneuvered me away from my yellow friends to move in with my parents to have time to think. And if time to be miserable enough that i would be open to thinking. Maybe he's the solution. Have you ever been that miserable that you're open to. Jesus that is terrible. You don't wanna go there.

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Pastor Rob McCoy, Part 1 | Why The Church Matters In Times Of Crisis

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Pastor Rob McCoy, Part 1 | Why The Church Matters In Times Of Crisis

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Hey everybody you guys are GonNa love this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. It is an exclusive and extensive interview with my Pastor Rob McCoy from Calvary Chapel. Thousand Oaks guys are GonNa really benefit from this. I pray that you guys are going to be blessed by this conversation. Rob has fought the authorities on the state and the local level with the Chinese down the Chinese virus shutdown down his push back and he continues to be a voice for Truth and liberty even when it is not easy. You'll be inspired by him. Email me your thoughts about our show and things you are reading things you are seeing articles you want me to mention it. Freedom Charlie Kirk Dot Com. Go Straight to me then to our team freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com. And if you guys are not yet subscribed to the Charlie Kirk show all you have to do is take out that podcast provider. Make sure it's subscribe. Those five star reviews keep this show thriving and help us beat Joe Biden and the charts. I know you're gonNA enjoy this episode. Everybody I pray that you benefit from it. Buckle up here we go charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know. We are lucky to have Charlie. Charlie kirks running the White House. I WANNA thank. Charlie's an incredible guy his spirit. His love of this country done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. Usa We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey everybody welcome to this episode of the Shark Show. I am so honored to be able to introduce to our subscribers listeners interviews right now my pastor my pastor rob McCoy from Calvary Chapel Thousand Oaks. California. I'm not a resident of California. I've never been a resident California. But you can still have a pastor in a state that you do not live in. Interestingly enough I spent a lot of time with you on the phone. We talk a lot so we have that pastororal communication connection but granted. You are not in the state very often I have to. I have actually haven't known rob that long first years. Yeah but it's been. We've done a lot we have and it's been really fun. We've met the president together. We did spoke all across the country together. We have done some really wild things. I spoke at your church a couple of times now shocked to hear. That was the first time you've ever spoken in a church while I was never asked to gifted. I still don't feel worthy of being able to speak at a church Charlie. One of my frustrations is that when I travel the country and speak to pastors and the misunderstanding. That somehow you aren't a fervent believer and folks in the in the Christian community pastors in particular. Don't know how to process you because you are political and the the pastoral communities adverse to politics for the most part. There's a lot of work to be done in that in that segment of our culture but when they come to realize the significance you've had with an entire group of young people that they have an inability to reach. I WanNa talk about that today. Because God is used you very specifically in a very unique way in in conjunction with relations three. So we'll talk talk on that tonight but today that's very kind of you rob. And what drew me to Rob's Church Madrid to rob differently than any other pastor? I've dealt with. I've had some great pastors very formative pastors that have been through great times of Prosperity Times. That are a little bit struggling getting any names but I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago. And why did it backwards? I did the terrible stuff first. And then I turn. Hero's journey guilty. Whatever true hero's journey not the boom at the Boston boom cycle? And when I went to rob's church and I spoke every congregate or petitioner what's the correct target congregate person who came to church new the constitution. Yeah they knew freedom the New Liberty. I gave a speech that was rooted in faith. Unapologetic about politics talking about action and everyone loved it absolutely adored it and I'd never been at a church like that and it was Bible based it was scripture filled. Everyone was loving and everything the Gospel tells you to be but it was also very firm about what we as Christians have to do in the world. Yeah they understand the role and in addition not only. I think you could probably testify to this but after you gave the very first message and you came back on sanctity of life Sunday. That's right and you gave one of the most amazing messages In in regards to the unborn that resonated with the congregation and they were so moved that the sign ups after that for action were phenomenal. That's very kind. We actually should put that whole speech up on Youtube. We haven't had a chance to do you need to do it. Yeah thank thank you for for saying that and it was such a blessing for me because it actually you gave me a platform to talk even more vocally about my faith. Because every time I would do that I would have pastors or people in the church ecosystem kind of send me notes or call me and say Charlie. You're not really qualified to talk about this. Some you don't understand the Bible. They won't be that explicit about it but like hey. Why don't you just leave us to the kind of Bible teaching stuff and do what were your thoughts on on that criticism. That sometimes it's thrown at me or people like me. It's not just me. I love hopes all things so I don't. I'm real cautious Picking on the Church and I'll tell you why the Bible says that the church is the bride of Christ and if you speak poorly about my wife you're going to be picking up your teeth with your broken arm right and and I don't like the bash the church but we do have to examine our lives and we do have to examine our fellowships in respects to that. God's given you a at the body of Christ as a multifaceted diamond and everyone has a facet and God has given you a facet on that diamond that is critical and one that is for for longtime underneath the setting but is now being called into the top for folks to start to realize. Wait a minute you say. The most important thing is the Gospel and I don't question that but when the second most important thing to be protecting the country that protects the preaching of that Gospel. And what is this term liberty and why is it that it is rooted completely in Christendom Judaism in Christendom and and we are the land of the free home of the brave and were based on liberty? We don't examine these enough anymore and our founders did and even the preachers our Constitution our declaration of independence. All of these amazing documents. Were I preach from pulpits in America? I've been doing a lot of reading and watching during this period as our just getting out of it As the country kind of just shut down and finally starting to see it reopen. There's so much there's so many ways I go with this whole piece of commentary. I'll start with us some of the people I've been reading. I've actually been on the other side atheists and left you understand the other side you understand how to approach them out a minister to them how to communicate with them more clearly more effectively. Someone why find just had the gift of persuasion but for all the wrong reasons was Christopher Hitchens And you're obviously aware of Christopher. Hitches one of the most just well-followed followed undocumented atheists of generation. Who probably brought more people away from the church on the intellectual basis and you watch videos his vocabularies extraordinary. His diction is second to none. Logic is questionable and then you get down to the rue the argument. He's very bitter and angry and he argues he says well. How could anyone possibly be believing in these institutions? Were so bad and so much. Awful has come and he was. He was in a debate with my friend. Frank Turek and there's a previous episode with Frank couric. You guys should check out. Is Christianity true on the Traffic Kirk? Show where he was in a debate with Franken. Christopher by the way printer unbelievable is he not great clips. In Sunday's the congregation moved in a tender heart but usually people in the apologetic swirled is different. There's a tenderness about him. But he he's relentless in a loving manner. He is the best apologetic speaker. I've come across and I think more people need to know about him. I think he needs to have a really big PLATTE fight. I WanNa meet that guy you and him together could really do some unbelievable stop but the kind of closed the point is that hitchens would argue that there is no God look at all the evil in the world. How could you possibly believe in a God? That's Redan redeeming and someone who created all this when you just have all the suffering you hear this all the time right You were mayor of a city. Thousand Oaks California right when what happened. Well I wasn't the mayor when it happened but I was mayor pro. Tem when this awful event occurred and I think it was November seventh in two thousand eighteen Homegrown young man from thousand Oaks California. Who had been in the Marine Corps? I don't know if he's dishonorably discharged but he had mental issues lived with his mother and he just went off. The rails went into the border. Line they call it the borderline bar dancehall but it it. It was really a place where all the youth would gather and it was college night that night and it was packed and all the kids would come out and do line dancing at this country dance place in addition they were having the reunion of all the folks would survive the shooting in Las Vegas. See PEOPLE IT survived. The shooting in Las Vegas came to the border line that night. This guy comes in and begins to shoot any killed twelve of of our citizens One person was The the bouncer so to speak he was older. But all the others were young people and that day we lost two of our congregants and then as soon as that occurred and we we went through that emergency and we're trying to process it all and I was with all the families is there waiting for notification of their loved ones and you can imagine there one hundred kids their windows broken they rabbit out and everyone dropped their phone so parents are calling wondering where their child is. There painting and seeing the phone is there and and the the officers who were on scene said the entire floor was ringing for hours and hours with these phones had been just left so eerie eerie and and then when we finally kind of got a handle on that and we're prepared to go into the next day we went and had a vigil that night with the city. We put that on ministered to the community and as soon as I left that vigil go home. Fires had encircled are our city and I had been evacuated from my home so we had been hit with a mass shooting and fires. That enveloped our community. It was a day from. Hell just absolutely awful and I was there that day. I was with the parents many of them not all but almost all when they're when they were notified that their child was one of the victims and I'd been telling him the entire night I turned around and came back three o'clock in the morning I'd come back and went to the Teen Center and sat with them and it wasn't too late the next morning early afternoon that they finally got notice and and I just told them hope for the best but prepare for the worst. And you can't prepare for that. The guttural screams and the the broken nece and just shattered lives of one person did and it was. It was awful and we'd actually lost an officer that day officer Louis. Brave man went in And the gunman psalm on the cameras and ambushed him. He didn't kill him and Tragically Officer. Hilo had radioed in and then a H. Officer came down and lay down some fire and it was around from his rifle that killed officer Helix which is even more heartache to at all. I was the mayor when it came time to heal because I was November. I became mayor in December. I I attended all of the memorial services and officiated two of them. So here I am as a pastor in the community also civic leader and playing both roles it was a very interesting time with all the uncertainty in the world. Feeling safe at home is never been more important. It's why I want to talk to you about simply safe home. Security their longtime friends of our show and for good reason simplisafe has made it easy to finally get comprehensive protection for your home. They're criminals on the loose. Breaks up seventy five percent. They are letting rapists out of prison. You want to protect your family. Do you WANNA protect your loved ones. Do you WanNa protect your home from the criminals that are on the loose. 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Interestingly enough though when you're in the heart of it most people whatever their their their their world view is when something like that happens and it knocks the knees right out from under you. You go running a relational connection and people who weren't churchgoers are even people of faith in a in a small community like that. They came looking for answers. There were some but not many the the lion share of them just came and said. I'm glad you're here. I don't I don't subscribe to what you believe but brought comfort and it opened up all kinds of conversations and and to be able to say to the media. We've been visited by evil today that that's not something you're going to hear from a civic leader. No and instead they'll say firearms her right and and to be able to articulate that and to do it in such manner unapologetic just just to say it. It gives some folks comfort and interestingly enough when I came back that night to be a part of being with the families well then all the news cameras starting show showing up and I wasn't the mayor mayor pro. Tem and I told the Mare. I'm here and the cameras are out here you want. They want to do an interview with you and he said no you take it so. I went out with a public information officer. The Piano of the sheriff's department was the two of us so the next day when this hit around the world it was my face. They were seeing. I didn't intend it that way. I was answering those questions. And I answered them candidly from Christian worldview but being respectful the office I held in a pluralistic community. So I I could questions all the time but faith in college campuses. Lot Jubal cut straight to the most difficult questions and they'll say well Charlie. How could God allow natural disasters? Tragedy that these tragedies to happen and there was a great quote that I came across wants. Which is we as Christians or D. ESTHER. People are theorists. Let's say theorists use. We have to explain away natural disasters. Birth defects is a very hard one for me to explain away. You guys have to explain everything else. Atheists you have explained love and beauty physics mathematics the creation of the world proximity to Sun how Jupiter is uniquely positioned to not have space garbage. Come to us all of that right. We got the burden that we have. You guys have a much bigger burden than we do and I would add to their burden that when they they say how could got do this and say do what. Is it evil to you? Because they're gonNA use metaphysical terms when they live only Ms Aerialist. Yay materialistic world. There's good and bad more than just Matt Adams. Yeah these are just vibrating. Atoms that got a lot of what you would consider to be good or bad. Where does that good or bad stemmed from and their face to face with the reality that wait? I'm feeling pain. This this is wrong now. Got a process that cause your materialistic world you. There's no absolutes for you So that's another time where people are drawn to a moment like that one. It's personal from a distance. People will say that to you to an event happens in New York and we're in California and we can say how can a God do that but if we're in New York? We are left with personal experiences where our hearts broken and we're mourning the loss of a friend. That's what happened in our community. That's that's why I. I didn't sense a lot of what you were describing of people denouncing the existence of God. Let's let's take a step back. What is the Christian? Worldview Christian worldview is. That man is an eight lethal. God is ordained government and the purpose for ordaining government in the new covenant. And it's fascinating. Because Abraham was saved by grace he believed God credited him as righteousness four hundred thirty years later gives the law and was through Moses and it and and how did this come about you. Have Abraham selected by the Lord? Yeah this generation of people the Israelites. They find themselves enslaved in Egypt. They cry out to God. God delivers them through the ten plagues comes into the wilderness after drowning pharaohs army. And you see all these miracles described in the wilderness with these Israelites. Not only the ten plagues in the Passover which a picture of Christ and and this whole thing but now as feral releases his slaves fearful that he's GonNa Destroy Economy pursues him and then loses his army and these three to five million Jews end up in the desert and in the desert God miraculously provides food everyday Mana. He provides water where there isn't any even when they wine about meat he blows quayle off course meet comes out of their nostrils their clothes. Don't wear out there for forty years. Moses GOES UP ON MOUNT SINAI IN. This is four hundred thirty years later. After Abraham Moses goes up Mount Sinai he gets downloaded moral lap the ten commandments. I Five Commandments. Our relationship with God Second Five Commandments. Our relationship with each other. Although the fifth is a flip because honor thy mother father goes with the Lord and with your parents. He comes down. The Israelites are in a deep in debauchery. They built the golden calf on and on and on he takes this law and makes it the center of the community. Don't covet you don't steal right and go through all that don't murder. And as a result the greatest miracle of all that is seldom discussed and evangelical world in the Christian world has abandoned. This understanding our founders. Got It but the greatest miracle of all three to five million people live for forty years without a police force or standing armies self-governance accountable to God and accountable. Do each other with the lobbying with the law being the thing that highest priority of moral arbitration. If if things are right with the Lord and there's a picture of the cross for Christians vertical horizontal. You see that that's life and with that if we remove God from the equation and we remove absolutes. And you've always heard me say this I people say I don't believe in absolutes. I said you believe that absolutely. Moral absolutes are critical and and this idea of the disappearance of moral knowledge We have we have got to return that culture. We have to an and then we get to this place and this is where Christians are today. Our founders understood it because six thousand years of recorded history. Every government was an oligarchy. The few ruled the mini and then this experiment happens with the Mayflower Compact self-governance accountable to God accountable each other and they established this. Preach from the pulpit. Understanding of liberty the Geneva Bible. That was no different than the. King James King James Bible but had had commentary on civil government that he wanted to remove. That's why did the King James Version and he wanted to change the word ECHINACEA from assembly. Which is it's a governmental term. Christ used it and he opted. He didn't use a he didn't use a spiritual term. He didn't say synagogue or or you know he he used he used ECHINACEA which means Assembly King Games translated that church. He didn't see that Christians needed to be involved in government because government is the ruling of one another. How do we get along? Aristotle said the highest form of politics community is the highest form of politics because it incorporates both morality and socio ability. We need to know how to get along. So community is political. And you say you're not political. Everyone's political I think what people are saying is I don't WANNA be partisan. I'm tired of the divide but we still have to figure out how to get along. And of course you're back logged on some of these podcasts. And and we don't know how all this that we're going through is going to transpire but currently what would happen in California which is fascinating to me. You've got these these skaters and you've got these. Surfers and governor. Newsom takes away their beach and their skate parks and they're rising and opposition to the governor. That you're taking away my liberty. All they loss was the ocean and their skate park but they see the value in it they may be liberal and as we sit in the protest. This isn't left Middle Right. This is American When people say Will Charlie. I don't like all the division we have to unite. I'll say are you okay with any form division and a foolish leftist the bets most of them will say I don't want any division so you WANNA division between us and child sex traffickers. We should definitely be divided from and that's where we will prisons. How about how about us in murderers? Yes okay how about us in thieves? Yeah okay sure so you do believe that there should be some division where we say we are right and they are wrong. Yes okay so maybe. It's not all about just unification. Maybe it's about boulder choices. Maybe it's about being able to better differentiate between correct and incorrect in one of the big frustrations. I have talked about a lot on. This program is giving the left the benefit of good intentions. Well they want the same thing that we want to have a different way of getting there in. Yeah they were okay with each being cancelled. That should never happen again. Ever you you have a you have a far more strategic mind than I do. In God's gifted you a I'm I'm a one trick pony in some respects and I'll give you an example when when the governor and our county health officer declared that churches are non essential in violation of the first amendment. We have two sacraments in in the Protestant realm baptism and communion thought the Catholic. So they got nine those seven nine years at seven and so with those sacraments. Those are essential to us and unlike the cannabis dispensaries and the liquor stores and the bicycle repair shops. That were all considered essential by the governor. The church wasn't so even if we followed CDC standards we were considered non essential and we couldn't have access to to that part of our faith. That's essential communion community. So we hosted that communion service and people came out in droves to protest. Interestingly enough they were protesting a non essential manner. They were practising social distancing but I was defending their right as well as ours and the press. That was covering it all entwined in that. First Amendment and. Here's where the simplicity of my mind comes. It had nothing to do with them. Being afraid we were going to kill people because we had taken greater precautions than any other essential organised sterilized every chair. Every I mean it was so outraged and they covered it well to to the press credit. I have to say the local news channel that a very fair job. Oh they did and we won a lot of folks over as a result of that because we did it wisely but for the folks that were really vehemently protesting. It had nothing to do with the danger to community. It's the fact they didn't want God represented because when you say there's absolutes. They're they're they're at war with God. There's two ideologies either man makes the rules or God makes the rooms and I don't have a problem with a liberal. I like liberals I have a problem with a secular progressive. God removed from every vestige. Because they think that that is the thing that's destroying culture more of a liberal. You're talking about. I like people who challenge stuff and want to look at things from a different perspective. I I I like that. God gave us that ability reason and to cross. Examine and our founders. Wanted it that way? The one is to dialogue. But they want us to recognize. We can do that under the realization that these rights that we're going to protect our endowed by creator not by man and the role of the government is to protect those alienable rights. They don't administer them they don't administer them the. Yeah they're they're not they're not permissions. They are rights that they are called to protect. I swore to defend that constitution. So when I put on that that communion service on Palm Sunday it hit all the news and I knew it was going to be an issue with the council and I knew that I'd be censured. I knew that I'd be violating a state and County Ordinance and a city ordinance and it would. It would be terrible so I resigned because I had sworn when I took that office elected leader to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. This was a direct violation of that constitution with this tough economy. I know there's lots of HR issues popping up. 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I don't question their faith. I don't question their loyalty or their bravery I think they're misguided and I I would love to deliberate with them and I have. But the one passage they use his out of Romans thirteen which has got a points all positions of authority and we're decimate those authorities and then I responded to them in a writing stating that. Let's not forget that. In the United States of America the Authority is clearly defined in the first three words. The preamble we the people and it goes on to say that they they have. They carry a sword because her ministers of just execute wrath on those who would do evil. That's the Second Amendment in relation if we want to put it into context for the American form of government and then secondly the leaders are there for our good not for our evil and so when they tell us that we're supposed to submit regardless of the form of government because when Paul wrote that Nero was empower. That doesn't work. They still contended. And you can see this in the book of acts throughout Paul's writings and I would just simply asked. The pastors will should Rosa parks have gone to the back of the bus in atheist would say while she was disobeying Christian doctrine by doing that but she did the right thing. I'm speaking to Christians. I'm asking them should Rosa parks go to the back of the bus or was she exercising. What God had called her to do that she was created in the image of God. Fearfully and wonderfully made that there is no division that we have been created equal endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. She was standing upon that promise. And Are you going to look at her and call her rebel in violation of Romans? Thirteen an an and I think it's a lot easier for us as to just roll over because granted. We don't like conflict but piece is not the absence of conflict pieces the presence of Christ in the midst of the conflict. Whoa danger isn't reduced. By circumstances we operate in the process of danger with the presence of Christ. That's why Christians. Do you know rescue missions in the inner city. That's why we were the ones who built hospitals. We were the ones who were bowled. But if we think that Christianity is he absence of conflict. And that's peaceful. That's not it and that's not. That's nowhere in Scriptures. Jesus had to bring peace but a sword. Jesus was also awfully confrontational. Yeah in John. Most of the dialogue of John is Jesus confronting the Pharisees absolutely directly about their own scriptural. Hypocrisy and one of my favorite parts of the entire Bible is in John Twice. Jesus commits miracle on the Sabbath performs is performance about commits commit. Sounds like a or something performance he he exhibits he perform and instead of he heals heels the blind man by putting mud on his eyes and he goes to the pool of silo. Siloam which is the city of David has now preserved that pretty amazing UNBELIEVEAB- Beck and it confirms your faith and you could really feel it and see its own puts the Bible in technicolor. And so the Pharisees. Start to see. 'cause I was at the bottom of the temple on these on the road up to the city up to the temple. So the Pharisees. Start to see this guy. They've known as a beggar for couple of decades walk around and they just can't believe that this guy could see again and instead of saying. Wow this guy has a site back maybe something to this they say basically to Jesus. How dare you do good things on Saturday on the Sabbath? Yeah on the Chabad. I think it's one of the most incredible examples of people of of me. So blind to God's amazing majestic works. Yeah and I use that as as Jesus was confronting the law and the Customs of the day but he was doing greatness and doing what was right despite what the costumes were proceeding right. Additionally Jesus time and time again and you can even go to Steven in the book of acts that you speak about wonderfully church. When Stephen gave his first sermon before he was stoned and his only sermon only personality sermon. It was a real barn burner. Yeah right it was real temple burner. I guess you could say right because the temple did fall. Not Too far enough. Second Jewish revolt by the Roman inquisition. I think of Jerusalem. Second Inquisition of drew on Titus. Yeah SPEZIA YEP SO. They stone him to death right. Paul's entire ministry was in defiance of Roman custom. So there's plenty of examples of Christians in early Christian standing up against ABS- what they deemed to be on just even having the apostles say are. We're to honor God. I'm not going to disobey God. In order to obey man and every every commandment given our primary our primary goal is especially when Jesus gives. Commandments their personal. There's governmental they're each broken down in separate conduct's bill fettered as a great study non. He's phenomenal but in this regard if you were given a command to kill little children and the Hebrew handmaid's they they save the children. Moses has saved the deliverer Jesus was ordered executed by Herod Herod and they had the fleet either Egypt Sinai Peninsula. I mean it doesn't add up and and you know that's are you going to dismiss folks like Dietrich Bond Hoffer and then to see that we would take Romans thirteen so far that we would say even our founders were rebellious because they should have submitted to the king and yet they laid it out and they appealed to heaven they declared God in four different areas of the Declaration of Independence. The Laws of Nature Nature's laws of Nature Nature's God divine providence. They laid out and the and the judge of the univer saying look here. Here's our case and it says when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for all ties but it wasn't that declaration wasn't for America it was all mankind because they had finally figured out a way that we can have a bottom up form of government thank you. John Locke Yeah. Yeah and and only immoral. People can Governor Republic. That's right and that's why they made it indispensable than you go to the what what the predecessor to this. What is moral and even Thomas Jefferson? Who struggled with the idea of a ubiquitous sovereign omniscient omnipotent God even he had unbelievable amounts respect for the Bible and re and every night and realize the significance in the formation of the government itself and he struggled with it very high intelligence he had the Jefferson Bible. He removed the miracles. Which is he was a classical liberal. He just wanted to. This is the way you're thinking. Let me just think outside the box a little bit. However he recognized the moral structure and he didn't lose his morning and what people don't and I would love to focus on this for a sector people realize about the founding fathers is there is not one piece of literature they could not recite from memory of significance. They read the cart. Marcus Aurelius CICERO. Our entire from government was basically taken from Cicero Socrates Plato Aristotle the Great Thinkers The enlightenment and the guy that was basically the fat beef. The foreign founding father of America was John Lock right when John Locke Basically said who are you naturally in the state of nature to government give that existence to you go and then if you believe in natural rights and you have to believe the natural rights giver and then it connected beautiful with these pilgrims who said we believe the stuff all along. We've just been under the thumb of tyrants. Yeah it's like saying I don't I don't i. I don't believe in a God because I don't see him won't I've never met the builder designer of of this building but I know exists because I can see the order of it. I can see the design of it and what I say to people and this might be too experiential people but what if I told you truly felt without any explicable evidence the Holy Spirit. Yeah am I wrong? Am I misguided? And my lying and people have different answers usually answers will. You're just confused. Your mind has a way of playing games with you. Okay that that that might justify explanation surely doesn't satisfy mine but I'm perfectly content with knowing that there is a supernatural explanation for why we're here stuck at home these days. 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I do every Sunday really well and then I'm about as good. You is receiving compliments. You're humble. I'm not homeboy. Just Kenniston. What would come on my way? Now look at this. You have this Gospel that they lay out and they say so. That's why I don't do politics. Well the Gospel Jesus said go and make disciples of all nations. He didn't say make converts and we think raising your hand. God bless you. I see your hand come forward. We'll give you a Bible and that's the beginning of a relationship but God designed in every vestige of Scripture Howard live together are the pastors and you were talking about our founders reading all these integrity with respect and with respect but don't forget they went through through the first and second grade awakening Whitfield. It was Benjamin Franklin who paid to have whitfield common preach up and down the eastern seaboard. They were moved by this awakening and return to the Scriptures. They were educated in the Bible. You look at the old Satan delude rack which was the very first public school act and it was the whole purpose was to teach the children to read. They couldn't be You know tr- tripped up by Satan himself so they could understand and this was the foundation of their lives. So when they tell me. I'm not preaching the Gospel. I respond by saying converts are not call stupid disciples and I do preach the Gospel but the gospels more than just raising your hand. You've truncated it. And you've made it my offic because I'll give you this. This example. Mccaffrey Chapel Pastor Calvary Chapel started in California in nineteen sixty eight with a guy named Chuck Smith he broke away from the foursquare church real simple proposition. He wanted to teach the Bible verse by Verse. Chapter by Chapter Book by Book. It's called exposition teaching. Keep the main thing the plane thing the plane thing the main thing and he had Kumar not the music where he brought in syncopated rhythms. Kinda hit music. I know that strange but it didn't exist back then but let me add this. It started in sixty in California now. Nineteen sixty eight in California. Reagan was governor. We had the fourth maybe governor before him and we had the fourth maybe fifth largest GDP gross domestic production of any nation in the world. We're the nation of of a the state of the future. You know all the space exploration all this stuff happening here. It was the Golden State. We had the California aqueduct. A feat of engineering bring water from the Sierra's into the San Joaquin Valley producing more cotton than the entire south combined. And and here's Reagan Governor and and Chuck Smith COMES ON THE SCENE. Well also nineteen sixty eight. We'd had the massacre the Ted Offensive. Your four years removed from JFK getting assassinated JFK. Getting assessing in sixty eight Bobby Kennedy was assassinated by Sharon Sharon Sirhan Sirhan. Yeah and then Reverend Dr Martin. Luther King was shot on the Balcony in Memphis. Sixty eight all these young people. Who'd been promised hoping change were disillusioned? They checked out of the church in droves and they started to explore eastern religions and drugs chuck and his wife case. You have been the best explanation of heard for how that happened. They were disillusioned and they come out and the and and Chuck and Casey all these hippies awash on the shores of California just how hard for them so they create a church. That's kind of accessible. Unlike all the STOIC churches burn them out. Nothing wrong ASTO NO I. It's all good maybe I meant sterile so so as they come in droves calvary chapel begins to grow by the simple model ten thousand percent ten thousand percent so from nineteen sixty eight to today. There's over eighteen hundred chapels around the world. Ten thousand percent growth. We have I think. Three of the ten largest churches in America Catholic chapels responsible for the harvest Crusades. Somebody loves you. Crusades in the lion's share of those churches are in California. I'm in I'm in north Thousand Oaks south of Van is which just below thousand oaks. There are over. Three hundred. And fifty calvary chapels down to San Diego. I mean they're everywhere so we've been doing this for fifty two years and it's conversion growth not transfer growth so what has been the impact that we've had on the culture of California we no longer have the fifth largest GDP. We now have the six maybe seventh. We have the highest gas tax sales tax income tax corporate tax. We lead the nation in debt. You combine the for the next states. Have the largest debt you combine. It doesn't equal California's debt. We lead in homelessness illegal. We have the highest homelessness. We have the highest poverty rate. We have the worst roads. We have the highest number of abortions. We've aborted more babies since nineteen seventy-three than the entire population of Canada. Thirty six million people thirty six million people. And you look at this and you think where's the power of the Gospel Because Chuck Preached The Gospel? But he deliberately and and I understand why they were so burned out on politics. That chuck did talking politics. But if it's if you don't show how this is to be integrated into life. There's a disconnect and in the later years of his life he started to realize it. Well now we're ready to do something about it. 'cause California is losing its ability to even proclaim that Gospel the churches non-essential. The governor has a four stage process to reopen California and churches are the last tithing is down thirty percents. Some churches have closed especially impoverished areas. That don't have the Internet. That can do a livestream this. This is unconstitutional. Our founders never intended this but unless the church defends it if I if I might WanNa add this when I had said earlier that the first three words of the preamble the Constitution we the people it designates who the king is in America the people and our founders understood that every kid needs a counselor and every president needs his cabinet so the founders gave the people the king a cabinet counselors in the first amendment freedom of the press freedom of religion freedom of speech and the freedom to peaceably assemble for right of redress of grievances. So that the press could hold those those people that were governed by consent our consent. That's our power on loan. We're GONNA hold them accountable. And then the Pope. It would rightly divide truth and infuse morality to hold them accountable to those moral strand standards of these inalienable rights and our Creator and then the people could peaceably assemble and then. They could redress their grievances. They could speak publicly. You stifle speech. When you can't contend with it logically and they protected that and the press is bought in the pulpits are silent and the king has no counselor and we're losing our freedoms when Paul wrote Romans thirteen no Romans thirteen. Yeah sorry either going. Glaciers that yeah Romans Thirteen when Paul wrote Romans. Thirteen a was the emperor It was not the Roman Republic form of Republic dictator which the Roman Empire Hip Julius. Caesar made sure of that after the Roman civil war so the the the rendering unto Caesar. What is Caesar's as Jesus said? The sovereign was the unitary executive. Yeah singular but now the sovereign in this experiment which is much more in the teachings and much more in the inspiration is us the people we the people and different and our pastors have to empower and educate the king. They're there to instruct them. How how does the scripture work in civil government? How does the Scripture Work in commerce? 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From the Archives: Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith on the Harvest Crusades

Greg Laurie Podcast

29:03 min | 1 year ago

From the Archives: Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith on the Harvest Crusades

"Everybody Greg Laurie here you're listening to the Greg Laurie podcast and my objective is to deliver hopefully compelling rocktile insights and faith culture and current events from a biblical perspective to find out more about our ministry just go to our website harvest dot org. So thanks for joining me for this podcast. Evangelism can happen neighbor to neighbor or Speaker to stadium God can touch hearts with his words set to music be stringed instruments or clanging cymbals, pipe organs, or fender stratocaster. Today. We want to focus on one slice of church history how Lord use those tools to touch hundreds of thousands of lives through a move of God called the Harvest Crusade and I'm happy to introduce a couple of gentlemen who know more about this move of God's hand than perhaps anybody else this side of eternity. Pastor Chuck Smith is senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, and pastor. Greg. Laurie is senior pastor of harvest Christian. Fellowship in Riverside, California and the Speaker of the harvest Crusades gentlemen thanks for talking with us today. Good to be here. It's a joy. We'll pastor chuck. Let me ask you about this idea came up with more than two hundred, sixty thousand people have made decisions for Christ through the Crusades. How did this idea come to you and a wanted Greg say when you suggested it to him well, Greg was doing the money night studies for the young people here average chapel and the church was just crowded packed to capacity and kids were outside and all. So I just was wondering, Noaa we took it to a larger venue just how many would come out and is just a curious kind of. Idea on my aunt side of just how many would come. So I talked to Greg about maybe getting the Pacific amphitheatre and just do a one week I never crusade to. Lord would do now contrast the size of calvary. Chapel Costa. Mesa with the size of the Pacific amphitheatre. Well, Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa weakened seat Would say there's probably three thousand kids coming a Monday night and Pacific amphitheatre is eighteen thousand. Capacity Tumbler. and My response was chuck. That's a pretty big place. Isn't it and Chuck replied well, Greg we serve a pretty big God. So I thought you have a point there. But it really was a bold step of faith to do something like that in chuck envisioned in this sort of a billy Graham style crusade But you know a contemporary type, not the billy Graham's crusades aren't contemporary but it can an idea that we would take sort of what was happening on the money nights reaching the younger people and then do it any crusade style you know larger scale and obviously inviting people to Christ and the Lord honored, and in fact, as I recall on the first week by the time we were done we had broken all attendance records at the Pacific amphitheatre in the final night. Place was overflowing the there would people that couldn't get in there was traffic backed up to the streets. It was pretty crazy. Firsthand in orange. County the traffic is backed up on the fifty five freeway near the fairgrounds and on most of the side streets around the fairgrounds says some kind of religious event going on there tonight. It is called the harvest crusade religion with a contemporary approach organized by a minister from Riverside California if there's a religious revival underway in America, this may well be the leading edge. The last night was just absolutely wild. You remember what was happening Oh? Yes. This up first Persian Gulf War. Yes. So there was a urgency people you know all know this might be the end of the year. And it was just really though exciting because they had to finally just locked the gate out people outside we set up speakers for them, and then people just couldn't get to the fairgrounds. The traffic was so heavy around the area that they just couldn't get in. So it was just really far more than anything we ever anticipated or expected, and that's why the second year we decided. We take the. Final night over the stadium and so that we would have more room for people on the final night. Go figure you you go from a three thousand seat venue to eighteen thousand seats and then you run out of Rome. Yeah. Go figure. Well, I guess we do serve a big. God. Pastor has right well Pastor Chuck Greg, Aman speaking for many years on on Monday nights at at. The church where your senior pastor when did you first start to notice that God was was using him in some kind of a unique way in bringing people to Christ? Well, of course, we were able to observe it out there in Riverside as God just had his hand upon Greg's life and the anointing of the spirit on the messages and the way the church in Riverside was growing so successful. And then, of course, when he came down to take the money nights, it was instant. It was just right at the beginning that was packed to capacity where we just couldn't get anymore and so what do you think makes his kind of a communication unique or effective? Well, I think that it is so relevant to the present day situation. In other words, it's very current and he uses great illustrations that. People. Understand. He uses the thoughts in the ideas of frustration that. Are expressed by worldly people all the time but. Famous people that you'd think these people really got it made and you know when you hear of their frustrations and and all, and he's very was very good at illustrating in just the need that is basic within every man to Reno and to have a understanding of what it is to be at peace with God and to have that security that is ours in Christ Jesus. Two. Thousand. Years Ago Jesus Christ the son of God went to the Cross and died for the sin of the world he was tortured. It's humiliated crude spikes were driven through his hands and feet and a crown of thorns placed around his head and a spear thrusting aside, and he bled and died there why? Because we are all separated from God by our sin? And it wasn't nails that held Jesus that cross two thousand years ago it was love for you and for me for God so loved the World He gave His only begotten Son and who believes in Kim should knock Peres but ever lasting life. On loves you. The last thing he wants to do is see you face judge. That is why he poured his judgment on his son who died in your place. But if you will turned from your sin and come to Jesus tonight, you can be forgiven. I was listening. Pretty intently to what God was saying when he was talking about Jesus dying on the Cross. For me and was very personal to me. and. I just knew that something was going to happen I was on the edge of my seat and when he made the altar call, I had already made up my mind. And when he made the altar call, I just looked at my sister and I was sobbing and I got up and I just ran down there. and. Hundreds of people were coming. I am. Greg Helpless Dupree, he helped me to pray. For Jesus to come into my life into be my savior. And I did that and I felt. Such a relief after I did it. And I knew I was saved. A pastor chuck more than two hundred, sixty thousand people have made decisions just like that. More. Than three point three million have walked through the turnstiles since you had that idea in one thousand nine hundred ninety is is that what you expected to happen? No. Curse, the Lord always does exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or even think, and so you take a step and then you just stand back and you have your mouth open. And you know you just in awe of what God is doing and how far God is able to take something like that and just expanded and reach so many people. well, Pastor Greg many of our listeners know that that you grew up spiritually under master teachers right he's your pastor. What is it about his example? Bet His influenced you the most Lena that's a hard question answer because there's a lot of things I could say, but just sort of tying to this topic of evangelism. I didn't come from a Christian background at all I came from a rural secular hedonistic kind of a home as people may know my Mama's burden and divorced seven times alcoholic, etc. So it was a completely godless environment and frankly even before I became a Christian, I was really sick and tired of what this world had to offer and I knew there had to be answered somewhere I just. Didn't know where and it was a youth pastor that Kenema high school campus named Lonnie from calvary. Chapel. That I I. Heard and I made that commitment to Christ will then when I started going to cover I remember I was sitting there and in Chuck came walking out, you know no Lonnie was I related Alani because at the time I, had long hair just had here and it was But. Related to him as more of a peer. Okay. He's cool. But Chuck came out and he was more like the AIDS at my father would be. So immediately that you know some adult I don't know if I want to hear this guy I I don't think I'm gonNA. Really relate to this etc. but what amazed me was shot had a way. Of just speaking in everyday terms but yet it was the Bible back. It was Bible Exposition. I didn't know what it was that never heard before all I knew was I wanted to hear more so I would go to basically every study every night at calvary at that time, chuck would speak on Sundays of course, Sunday nights and I think took your money. And, you may be. Thursdays. And then Ken Gullickson did Friday nights and Lonnie was doing Wednesday nights I. Think in that. That's right and I went to all of it. I mean every single one plus I listened to this new technology at the time called cassette tapes and is now outdated of course but that was very edgy for them. Because don't forget we came from eight tracks. But you know I just couldn't get enough of it and I just found that chuck. You know interestingly though he is a Bible teacher and people think of that way a lot of times people don't know that really many ways chuck also an evangelist. He felt initially that he might be called to be an advance us but the Lord redirected him to be a pastor. But Somebody Tom's I would here in his messages these great presentations of the Gospel in a way that I can understand and then us as I saw to share the. Gospel in fact, it was one of sermons on inspired me to make my first attempt to evangelism, which was not preaching, but it was using my abilities as a cartoonist and I do a little booklet called living water. So to me, it was always, it was biblical it was practical. It was understandable it was authentic and it impacted my life and I wanted to go and do the same for my generation, and now I'm older than a lot of the people I'm preaching to. So I'm trying to do the same thing for the next generation. Do you need God's touch the night, maybe your life is falling apart. Maybe, you're trapped in a lifestyle. You can't get out of maybe your marriage is hanging by a thread. Maybe you're an engaging lifestyle right now we had a guy come forward a member of a gang up to that point at least. But he accepted Christ in these turned away from that lifestyle God can change a man like that. Might say well, that's great. You guys reach those down in outer St Joe's gang members to that'll raw meat tomorrow we will. We WanNA reach you to. A good person. I'm a moral person. I play by the rules. Yes I recycle it for you. You know Christ because you'll be asked that same question on that final day. This is not about how good of a life you live or how bad a light that you live 'cause you'll always find someone worse off than you. This is about the sin that separates you from God, because every one of US assent every one of us have broken the commandments of God every one of his stint separated from perfect and flawless God but God, you so much at two thousand years ago he said his son Jesus Christ not just a good man but the God man to die for your sins and shut his blood for you so you could be forgiven go to heaven when you die True Pastor check. Do you remember the first time you met greg he mentioned a moment ago that he had drawn evangelistic tract and he showed short on your porch with that. I remember very well. We lived rexy right near the High School Newport Harbor High and I do remember that he came to the door and he said that he had drawn up this cartoon I think it was in one of the classes in high school and it was the previous Sunday morning message done sort of been a cartoon fashion we were speaking on out of his innermost being there will gush torrents of living water, and so the track was called living water and. The guy with a heart and out of a heart, here's his fountain of water shooting up and so I looked through the track and you know we were talking about how people are looking to find the answers find something that will fulfill the emptiness, the void that's within and how the kids got into drugs and got into sex, and these other things all with the idea of trying to fill the void and so he put that in the track, and then how that you know through Jesus Christ? This not only the void is filled, but there flows fourth than out of that Empty Area, a fountain of living. Water. And so I said, well, this is great and so I had Greg Redraw or drawn in such a way that we could fold the cartoons so that they are in order as far as turning pages now, and we went down to Kinkos or someone. One of those shops had ten thousand of them printed and we got a bunch of kids aren't the church we cut them and. stapling them and all, and we set them out for the kids. To take free pass out to their friends and that first night, all ten, thousand God, and so we had hundred thousand printed up and they were gone and you know five hundred thousand and they were gone and that track just really had a very powerful impact on just kids all over the world night just thinking has chuck was saying that in many ways what I was attempting to do then is not. Unlike what we're doing on the Crusades two, they're just using different tools. You know then I was taking cartoon, but the idea was to build a bridge to a listener ended doing the way that they can relate to. Because back in those days, you may remember chuck that the kind of popular tracks had you know there are a lot of Hellfire and brimstone type thing you can try the flames on the. I'd read a couple of those before I was a Christian and I just threw it aside and laughed at it was a joke to me. So I was trying to do something that a person would actually maybe stop and read maybe even charcoal out a little bit but then also would hear the word and you know in the Crusades that's essentially the same thing that we're doing with with from. You know if you go to if we could go back in time to nineteen ninety, the harvest crusade at the first Pacific amphitheatre would look. Different than the harvest crusade of today, it would be different in a number of ways. The the music would be different. The Look of the platform would be different, but the essence of it is absolutely the same as it was, and I expect God willing if we're doing these ten years today or twenty or something today, you know they'll be different musical styles that may be popular. There might be different tools or resources or technologies we might utilize, but it always comes down to just the the message of the Gospel and that's where you can't. With it, you can't monkey with it. You can't toy with it. You want to just keep it biblical. You want to keep it simple. You want to keep it in everyday language. And, then you want to give people an opportunity to respond to it. Greg Lloyd was amazing. Yeah little stories. You know normally know what it says to be a center. When he puts in a little stories, little visuals. He gets. What he said really really hit me i. mean it hit me hard some he said just clicked in my head and it just made me. Now, I had to give my life to Christ. I'm never accepted the Lord before never even hold the Gospel told that and it just absolutely blew me away. Blew me away. I think that if you would go to the churches here in Orange County, those that are really evangelical teaching the word that you would find every one of the churches here people who had been introduced to Christ in the harvest Crusades I can remember the one year that we had huge baptism down at Krona Donmar, right after one of the Crusades Third Crusader. So the tide was so high. Use the. The the pirates cove. So we had to go to the beach and we had our high don't know over a thousand people. Baptized Aaron of course, in the the surf was up and was just I got knocked over with a wave and. Voting into the Sherwood some lady sides. Surfing. That serving and it was it was really though very you know an in our church there are just so many people that made their commitment or introduced or brought to Christ through the Crusades and so because we've been going on year after year, and that's it has a long lasting effect throughout the churches in of so many of them, the people were first introduced to Christ in the crusade setting. So I think it's exciting. You know it's an interesting thing also dave is that I've met so many people now who are in ministry? Who came to Christ that the Crusades as in a church last week speaking and he was the youth pastor and he was introducing me he accepted Christ in nineteen ninety at our first crusade there at the theater and now is in full time ministry. Yeah this is Justin and I I did receive Christ in one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety at the first summer harvest Q. Sane and it was there that I for the very first time I. realized that it was because Jesus did on the Cross for me that made me right with God. After that got involved in local Youth Ministry and and today I'm one of the pastors on staff at Mariners Church in Irvine. California Hi this is Jack Hibs and I came to Christ way back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven on a Monday night as Greg. Laurie gave the message it was the first time. I had ever heard the Gospel and in responding I had no idea what God was going to do with my life. But some years later now, I'm now senior pastor of coverage Apple Chino Hills. And by the grace of, God, had been allowed to teach the Bible to thousands of people and I'm grateful to Pester Greg and all that the Lord is doing through his life and the evangelistic preaching of the word of God, one of the criticisms of large scale evangelism as well. Do you think all those people continue on with the Lord well? Of course they don't we don't say they do. That's why we describe those who have come forward over the years not as conversions but his professions of faith time will tell if they're conversions but our job so to speak is to proclaim the word you know when the Lord told us to go. So the seed, the way they sowed. Seeds in those days, they would just go and randomly throw the seat out into a field and then the soil essentially determine how you would react to the sowing of the seed. So I think our goal is to get the to as people as possible, and then leave the results in the hands of God. But you know when you do that sure people come forward and don't continue on. But there are those that come forward and only continue on but then they commit their lives to service, and now they're reaching people and then those people reach people and so the process continue. So that's what's really exciting to me with the passing of time TV able to see how that's happened. For some reason I was listening at one night and Greg was talking about this might be last opportunity you have. Come, little no one had ever put it to me like that. No one in the church I had been going to or in the church that I grew up in had ever said. You need to make a decision Greg was saying. No matter how good you are. You're never good enough. One of the scriptures he said was Bushel profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses a soul. And really strict on my heart because that's exactly where. When Pasture Greg. You know Florida's knocking is nothing your heart open up the door and let him in it just felt like my was just opening to him said, Hey, a few died tonight. Where would you go? And it was like pointed at the audience and it was almost like he was pointing directly at me it just the statement that hit hard at my heart. And it was not that point where I realize I didn't. WanNa. I didn't want. He without God. It was the way he was talking it was like me and him just sitting down with a cup of coffee talking about this is by the way. Jesus and this is what he can do for you. Guy Miller said it touched my heart. So deeply that when he gave the invitation, there wasn't anything else. I could do I had to go forward. Yes. I walked towards the field I almost like galloping down get down there quick enough. At literally ran. I was in the Marines six years. Father always trying to say men don't cry. That's all I did. I couldn't stop. Move. Pastor. Let me ask you after hearing that. What do you say to people who think that large-scale evangelism is outdated? Well, I do think that people don't really understand. So often of the Crusades and again in there are a lot of crusades that really don't produce long lasting results. You know the way the message is presented if it is an understandable and a logical way, it sticks with people. And and I think that emotions play a part but I think that so many evangelist sort of tend to play upon people's emotions. So that is a emotional kind of reaction rather than a true being persuaded intellectually this is the way to go. I mean this makes sense and and I think that's the gift that Greg has of making it makes sense. You've had a lot of years of experience and service in God's kingdom when Pastor Greg gets to that point many years from now, what is your wish for him when he gets to that stage in his era of service to Christ let me just say I just hope that he can have the same kind of satisfaction of realizing that I've played my part done what God has called me to do and have had the joy of seeing the fruit of the ministry and of course with Greg. Good. You know his success came much earlier in life than did I was actually. Thirty eight years old when we started calvary chapel and of course, I was in my forties and in mid forties and all before I really began to see any really positive results and fruit of the ministry, and so here's Greg you know in his twenties began to see the explosive growth of the church there in Riverside and So he's going to have a lot more years of of being able to see the fruit, the grandkids and the great grandkids spiritually. But I wonder how many generations you'll be able to see greg by the time you get to be seventy nine. Well, I know that a church Maury dedicating a children of children have dedicated yes. So first, it was amazing. Well, here's these adults sending before me. You dedicated me as a job now is m dedicating their children you know, and that's a glorious thing and really what better way is there to spend our lives and then in serving the Lord and you never feel as though you've wasted anything mean look back in my life and they go give my life to Christ and seventeen O g delay. Miss, some parties or some fun times you know whatever I missed what few fun times are worry even in the world are nothing compared to all that the Lord has done in an I I don't regret any of it. In fact, I was I'd started even earlier though I started quite young because you just look back and say man, that's a good use of my time in of my life and you know wanting to see fruit that remains an and frankly I was the beneficiary of Chuck's. Preparation years because he shared with US less than Ta'ed learned early in life things to watch out for things to avoid things not to do as well as things to do in to embrace, etc. So having built on that, we were able to kind of get what you would call a jump start in life and get it very early. I didn't have to unlearn anything I didn't have any weird theological training or strange experiences and the church I just came as a a non believer with a blank slate for a mind and. I was saying, okay. Tell me what to do. Unfortunately I, was under the teaching of one of the Greatest Bible teachers ever who was able to kind of frame my thinking and then I was able to move from there. He told me you know users some good books to read these things to do etc and pursued that and you know so it's it's fruit I've always believed. It's fruit to Chuck's account. You know it's the Lord that you know one sows another reaps a god gives the increase. So it's ultimately got him we. Recognize that but having said that even Paul would say writing to the church you know your speak of his children and Christ and and so these people that are coming to faith it really is to Chuck's account as well because he said the framework for the crusade in I heard the word of God taught him from the earliest years there from Chuck and so you know we just praise the Lord for it. It's all for his glory, but but it you know it's all interconnected. So in a very cool way the Lord. was setting it all up and I'm just one of many I mean you know there's so many others that God is using. That are doing crusades as well like role reese and Mike Macintosh and others from Calvi Chaplain. That's not to mention though we know thousand fifteen, hundred, two, thousand, Calvary Chapel pastors are and many others that have been impacted by chuck I'm just one of many well, pastor check before we close Would you lead us in prayer? Be Very happy to father what a joy it is to again enter into A. Crusade and with the expectation and the anticipation of watching the spirit of God, touch the lives of thousands of people drawing them into a understanding of your love and the great plan that you have for their lives. They will just but submit themselves to you Annoy Greg Father for this crusade given strength. Give. Him Wisdom Lord. We pray that those that will be doing the music and all that felt each one be so annoyed by your spirit that people will be touched in Jesus name. Amen. Everybody Greg Laurie here, thanks for listening to our PODCAST and to learn more about harvest ministries. Please subscribe in consider supporting this show just go to harvest dot org, and by the way if you want to find out how to come into a personal relationship, with God, go to know God dot Org. That's Keno W., W Gio D. Dot Org.

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'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills with Jack Hibbs

The Charlie Kirk Show

1:32:21 hr | 6 months ago

'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' Live from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills with Jack Hibbs

"Hey everybody just a couple of days ago. I was in calvary chapel chino hills speaking with the great jabs about a lot of stuff happening in our country. Including where do we go from here. What are the action steps. We need to take the boxes. I need to check. We go through that. Including what does the bible say about times like this. My friend jack. Hibs one of the most courageous clear an amazing pastors in the country hosted me generously again at his church chapel chino hills. Thank you guys for allowing our staff and our team to be able to do what they do. Charlie kirk dot com slash support jakobsen. I chat about a lot buckle up. Everybody action packed episode. Here we go charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe charlie kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have charlie. Charlie kirks running the white house folks. I wanna thank joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building. 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That's ahead of us. Probably more than ever certainly more than and my lifetime is the fact that with what we've gone through and where we're heading the church and finally a just the church but americans need to hear encouragement truth and a lot of people are feeling kind of low. And yet they need to actually be encouraged. Why should they be encouraged boy. There's a lot of reasons. And i do want to start with just kind of taking a damage report of how awful things are and i actually think it's healthy and i think it's helpful and then we can build up from there and kind of what were the contributing factors because my goodness. It was hard to watch yesterday. It was and i know a lot of people here in this church did their part. I can't say that for every church across the country quite honestly but this church did their part. This church registered voters this church mobilize. This church was aware was alert. Was informed hosted the right gatherings. And you'll be blessed by that you will and you made an impact in this community and yes even the state will talk about that but yeah it's lost. The georgia runoffs the capital tragedy. The nra declared bankruptcy. President trump has access to note social media at all whatsoever. They took off of tiktok. What did they think he was gonna do. Tiktok spotify instagram twitter. Tiktok a stunning turn of events. I would have loved to have seen president trump transition to tiktok. All other options were exhausted. The very company he was trying to kick out of the country it's felt felt as if to hits have just kept coming and yet i refuse to do anything but be committed to good. Cheer positivity and optimism and some people have deb have been charlier. Are you delirious. I understand completely. What's going on in our country but let's also take a step back. Ask ourselves the question jack. Is it as bad as it feels. The answer is no the democrats. Don't not have sixty seats in the united states. Senate they have fifty coupla going to be up in two thousand and twenty two in very tough races in arizona georgia. They have one blue dog democrat. Joe manchin nancy. Pelosi did not get two hundred and forty four seats in the house of representatives. She only enjoys a seven seat majority at most on certain days depending on who shows up and the incoming administration has pledged and promised unity and they were not and we'll get to exactly what they mean by unity. It's actually something very specific and it's important that we all know because it's not the unity that you might think because their definition of unity is the absence of opposition. That's what they think of as unity but he gave no mandate to govern with a far left wing agenda. The only reason well. There's a couple of reasons that they've got an even from a policy perspective was that i am not the other guy and of course there's a let's say shenanigans and tomfoolery and gamesmanship which we can dive into here that obviously played a role in all of that not to mention the fact that social media was a completely corrupted enterprise throughout the entire election where you could not even talk about joe biden son without losing your twitter account. The month of october they do not have a mandate to govern with the iron fists that they're preparing to govern with they control our government barely but they're acting as if that they have sixty six seat majorities and so we also take a step back and say in a year where we supposed to get blown out of the us senate. I mean loose seats that we've never lost before we advanced in the house of representatives. We want california and you guys deserve credit for them young l. steel mike garcia. Four total flips. Right yes i yeah. We flipped three state legislatures and governors across the country and lost zero state legislatures. We have the most diverse and youngest group republicans probably ever including the youngest representative medicine coughlan ratio show by the way. Thank you does he. Twenty four twenty five. He is as young as you can be to be. A us congressman. Have you guys heard him speak. Yes awesome we have elvira salazar who speaks fluent spanish. Who wanted a democrat seat in downtown miami florida. We have burgess owens former. Nfl player american from utah. We have byron douglas. We have some amazing success stories. Happen florida used to be something called a battleground states. Now we might as well call it. Alabama i mean it is like we win by four hundred thousand votes. It's not moving to florida's short a mixed theory on that. Because i'm totally supportive of iso maxing out beat battleground states but don't forsake the battle in front of you so i kind. If there's any good people out there california's a great place to move to now. I mean things are turning around. It happened in this last election. It's through we'll talk about later. But i think california's going to surprise people and i completely agree and you looked at. We can actually learn something from the left. If you would've told me ten years ago. Arizona would have to democrats senators and electric to a democrat. President said what state of arizona you talking about the left was relentless. Had a battle plan. They implemented it. They had faith even when things did not look good and they were perseverance in their persistent same is going to happen in california. You will win the state back eventually but it's going to take a dedication it's gonna take ten years fifteen years it might even happen quicker than but also let's go even just across the country. Ohio trump won eight and a half points iowa. We won by eight points. We across the country. This is the first time since one thousand nine hundred seven but the incoming president has less seats in the house of representatives meaning. He had no coat-tails whatsoever. Joe biden you may not know this about me but i'm kind of an undercover. Some people call it a nerd when it comes the studying the global economy. I love seeking out financial wisdom when it comes to my own portfolio. I always value precious metals. Noble gold is the firm. I trust buy gold and silver. From which conserves they had to protection in your ira. i reason. They are united states based company. Supporting american businesses is so incredibly important. Second reason noble gold as impeccable online reviews a great online reputation is a must if you're going to trust teams financial council third reason. Noble gold has an experienced staff who works hard to make life easy for you any paperwork that might pop up takes less than five minutes to complete. Maybe it's an old 401k. That needs a home. 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They have republican governors. And they have to start taking marching orders from their constituents where georgia had at. Its most two hundred and twenty five thousand mail in ballots back in two thousand sixteen. They had one point two million mail in ballots this last november now just from an economy of scale. Imagine jack if six tunnel you actually know what this is like six times. The amount of people show up for a sunday service than you anticipated so bad example but if anyone else out. There doesn't have booming wonderfully flourishing. Churches doesn't know what that's like. The point is that you don't have the infrastructure to be able to facilitate that. So they do. We'll because stacey. Abrams believed she never gave up. She was well-funded. She changed the way elections. Were done in georgia less convinced about persuasion and more convinced about actually the mechanics of how elections are done so the signature verification threshold has changed. Where kind of scribble is more acceptable than actually what exactly it says. In your driver's license these sort of kind of boring inconsequential. more legal. Fights never concerned us as conservatives. Because i is i mean what exact. It's in the courts all of a sudden realized and our election on the margins when you have twenty thousand votes being rejected when ninety seven thousand votes rejected back in two thousand sixteen. That's the difference between winning and losing georgia and with it. The united states senate and that has to be one of the top marching orders there. But here's the other thing. That i think is really promising is that the democrats did not win anywhere on any of their ideas or policies. Think about this. The only places that they won was pretend just pathologically hating donald trump and running on moderate policies. They did not win any of the things that they are now. Espousing in the united states senate nowhere to people show up and say you know. I want a democrat so we can have a robust debate on gender pronouns in the united states senate no one showed up and they said you know i want a democrat. Because i think it's about time we say a woman after we say a prayer in the united states congress. You're talking about right man okay. Just in case. She knows that they're just getting started right. And and that's that's one of the reasons. I have hope. And we'll get into that but it's the if conservatives play there we do things the right way and if we don't allow them to break our will here's one promise. I have for you tonight. More than anything else guarantee. So we know the laws of gravity. We know the laws of nature. We know the laws of thermodynamics. and there's the laws of the left the left screws up everything they touch everything. Everything force equals mass times. Acceleration an object at rest will stay at rest and everything. The left touches will get to utter and complete ruin and so they. They are unable to govern now. You might say charles over exaggeration. No it's absolutely true in. Here's why because every one of their policies run contrary to god's laws head god's nature every one of them and so this happens in california illinois new york so there's a collision point. We're all of a sudden. They spend money they don't have they fight against biology. They try to program human beings natural incentives and then people say something and this is gonna take like one hundred days. I want the republicans back in charge police. What is going on. You've got chuck schumer arguing to add. Puerto rico as a state. Anc screaming and then there's going to be an opportunity. I guarantee you this slim. Majorities the democrats will mess this up. They will and they're in control of everything jet they're terribly divided and they are there s each other and and that's the other takeaway in the hope that i have right now and i pray we can be more in lockstep than the democrats because now they're gonna fight over the feast and they don't have a lot of margins to fight over the feast we're talking about fifty fifty tie that would require calling in the vice president to break that tie which is no small feat to just go through that and the filibuster still intact and that would take mansion and more kelly and tester to all agree to vote on that. Which is it's easier said than done and the democrats are now actually going to have to demonstrate to the american people. What exactly they believe in why they believe in you. Have the keys to the kingdom. Joe biden. what are you going to do. What do they do on day. One kill thousands of jobs. Keystone excel pipeline dakota access pipeline mask mandate that. He doesn't even honor himself when he goes to. The lincoln monument took them like an hour to violate that the us the us israel embassy twitter account got changed and changed back from us embassy to israel to the us embassy to israel gaza and the west bank. Okay so it's just like an five hours so i got. I got criticized for putting up fake news. When i put that up about the embassy because they changed it back. Do you know what happened. My news was true. It was true but they got so much flack on the first day on the job they got so much flack from people seeing that and responding in gone ballistic on the fact that they diluted that office from being the ambassador to israel to the ambassador of bean israel-palestinian gaza west bank west bank and then they quickly changed it the first day on your job you wind up flipping and so then people started saying this is big news. I can't find this anywhere because they flipped. I put it up there when they did it. And i lifted up there as a point of history but now you go look and they say pose. You're wrong didn't do that just because you're about five hours too late to that moment. Got such a backlash and everybody. They're messing twitter accounts in the first couple of hours. They're gonna screw this thing up. Okay trust me they can. They can't get nations correct in the first couple hours. Let alone run a governments and this is only going to replicate itself in every single agency every single briefing. There's some good news this just kinda sweet. I know as christians. We shouldn't revel in the misfortune of others but the nation of uganda band twitter from their time free freedom. You mentioned you guys. It's kind of strange because the canadian government was was all what's his name should chewed up. Jason jacob justin justin trudeau endorsed and was excited about biden. Now he was the canadians were but he was. And then what happens the first keystone excellent. I saw biden's going to stop the keystone oil. And and now. He's he's freaking out. Can candidates freaking out because they're looking at seen incredible amounts of money. What was said today. Is that with this decision. There's there's a new number in the front end but there's an immediate eight or nine thousand jobs lost and then very very soon because of keystone forty three thousand jobs are going to be immediately dissolved in the united states immediately. It's just about of those jobs where people that moved across the country specifically for that work but the agenda aerated is going to is going to supersede reality forty. Nine percent of americans say they're top new year's resolution is to save money in the next year. Let's check that box right now when your family switches appear talk from. At and t. verizon t mobile you could save over eight hundred dollars a year. That's real money every single month. Right back in your pocket and you don't have to sacrifice coverage. 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Is the birthplace of the constitution. One one one feeds the other one defends the other. The bible doesn't need defense. it's a sword it functions by itself but it is sure nice to have the bible and the first amendment we don't have to have the first amendment but we have it. So what's interesting. Is that when you look at chapter. Two that god sets up kings and he takes kingsdown. God never does that by sending or doing evil. He cannot do evil. The remarkable thing is that there's obviously at least on paper. I don't know. I cannot speak for heaven. The dynamic of what america is in right now is as epic as even as the birth of this nation in the sense that. What's up when the station was born. We were asking what what's hub. How could we defeat the greatest military power on earth but we did the nations of the began to look at us because things just started happening. We're all surprised by god's blessing two hundred years ago now. We're at this moment where people are saying. What's up rather than be discouraged because you can't figure it out you know everyone likes to put everything and that's a little proper sly god's doing something i don't understand it but he is doing something and i gotta tell you this is. My opinion is my opinion. Twenty twenty was a time where we obviously had a supernatural. Almost vetting of the church in america every church had the same bible but churches did different things. History will write that report card. But now we're in twenty one and what's we don't notice that we stand everyday. We're talking about this before we. This church stands everyday by god's grace because the powers that be out there would shut us down in the second and they're sharpening their swords as we speak. We stay open by the grace of god every day. Here's and here's the truth. And gods god's been so big. The truth of the matter is worse. Bygrave we stood. Were standing if you if you as a church out there in america if you didn't make the cross over into the new year standing i don't know if you're going get a chance to stand again. Think about this. Something's going on in our world. Something's going on an america. God's doing something. And i just wanna put a cry out to churches. You really need to open up now. Because there's a high probability that you may never be granted the freedom to do that from the government again. And you're if you're waiting for the government to give you permission to open up. I don't think it's going to come from this current administration. I just don't think it's going to come. And i plead with christians and churches if everyone opened up right now as as it were if we believe in the last moment in the last days we could take our last stand and it could be epoch for the kingdom of god if we. The church rallied in america to preach the gospel one more time. I think it'd be. I couldn't agree more. And i mean there's there's an honest assessment that needs to be done as i mentioned this church did everything right and if every church was as prayerful and alert as an involved this church especially in this last election things would have looked a lot differently especially look at the state of georgia state of georgia where you have pastors that are coming out and they are saying. We don't like the whole culture war christianity thing. We're not going to get involved in this election. When we know the stakes in all of a sudden you see the stakes. What happened where you have. The christian rapper mcrae who comes out and campaigns for raphael. Warnock the pro-abortion advocate. That's the guy who were listening to on kayla mcrae who were supposed to look up to in my personal opinion should never be allowed to perform at another church after advocating for rafael mcrae. Who's a christian rapper. He wanted to be loved and accepted by the democrat. Power establishment. more than standing up for truth. The pro-abortion raphael warnock. So you're exactly right when it happens the church in america there's three categories of churches right now in the country. There's those that are apathetic and scared refuse to open and they remain disengaged. There are churches that still remain somewhat closed. But they're almost become left-wing instruments of activism. And those are. I wish they were apathetic. Because they're misapplying the tax for something. That is quite. I believe dangerous for the country. And then there's churches like yours. Check and like rob mccoy. And james case and pastor again from san diego and john randall and greg denham analyst goes on there some fighters here in california everybody and across the country. And it's it's a list that hopefully will continue to grow. But here's the question. And it was just illustrating beautifully by pastor. Greg and it was this is do. We want cruise ship christianity or battleship christianity. And that's if we're honest with ourselves the way that the gospel has been missed taught or taught incorrectly is a better way to say it to congregants across the country and christians. Is the gospel will free you of all earthly responsibility. you know. take a vacation endlessly on a cruise ship. And you're never going to have to worry about anything again when in reality it's like once you give your life to jesus now you buckle up and you go into the conflict now you go into the difficult situations now. You're going to contest for the people that do not have a voice for the people that need salvation for the churches that need to open and some pastors are saying well. I don't want the church to get involved in politics. They must be reading or ignoring different parts of the bible than i am. How are they supposed to reconcile of the heroes in the old testament that are portrayed as heroes that got involved in secular government for god's will such as daniel esther mordecai jeremiah nehemiah just to begin the list or all of them got involved for god's purpose in secular government. How are they supposed to reconcile. What jesus christ said accessory philip when in the original coinate greek jesus christ said on this rock build my we say church but the actual greek term is at cassia. Cassia was a secular greek term. That literally was what we're doing tonight talking about what's happening around us. Finding a way to try and make sense of the chaos as active citizens. You know what the greeks used to have is the two big words when they gathered in an equatoria fairy and nome which means freedom and equality. Jesus knew what word he was using when he was when. That was in god's word. He didn't use the secular word synagogue gay he didn't use temple. Why is that. Because jesus wanted comprehensive christianity compartmentalized christianity. You wanted us to be everywhere. I guess what that means. That means you're in the tough situations that means you're going to open the church that you're contesting in every scenario imaginable. Here's just a newsflash. Everyone watching at home not as much here. You grown way too comfortable as a christian in this country you've been way to part of the mainstream culture way to part of it. You should be always swimming against that. Stream and people's and jackie made a great point. We were chatting in your studio. I ought to be relevant. I wanna be the you want to be. Relevant preached the word of god. If you wanna be relevant so thank you the temptation that is coming up against your heart and your head is to allow yourself. Listen the temptation. You're you're facing is to yourself to be intimidated by the mob. I'll call it the mob. Jesus tells us we just heard. God's word to joshua don't be afraid be of good courage be strong. I'm with you in christianity. That is the norm. Many people today will say. I wish i lived in the days of jesus. Are you sure. Listen they were up against the roman empire. I told you earlier. A new york times asked me in an interview. What are you going to do now with trump. Not being the president i said. Are you serious. That's the best question. I told the guy insult him. I think you'll never call me back. i said. are you serious. That's the best question you have. I said how about this. We survived niro. We've been around for two thousand years leaders come and go. Our leader died on the cross and rose again from the dead. Are you kidding me. I said it was never. It was never about people hoping you. Can you endorse someone who's womanizer knows. It had nothing to do with the person it had to do with this policies. If a candidate. I don't care what color they are. I don't tell her what. I don't care what what status they are. I don't care what party. They're with if they have policies that honor god in the word they're going to vote and that's that's just and so as believers listen. There is a real movement now being engineered. Charlie can talk about a better than i can. The cana juicy those war or two movies where there cranking the canon. The guy's going like crazy in the kennan in the canons. Go on like this. He's gonna this. They're moving their cannon right now toward the christian community in america right now. Why because they know that something happened in this last election among the christian community. Why what was it. It wasn't trump ism trump called. It was and they're not gonna get it. They just don't get it. We're in the face telling them it was because they were. The trump in many of the red candidates were pro-life. It's the pro-life issue. And but they don't get it and so they're going to lower their weapon at us so to speak. I like what our friend. Ben shapiro says. I refuse to be intimidated. Is it a great line. I refuse to be intimidated. Listen no one should be more able to deflect attacks than the christian we know what our mission is and that is to bring every man woman boy and girl into the love of god and forgiveness of christ in heaven. that's our mission and go all around doing good that means blessing all of those including our enemies and we are to let the light so shine one more thing before charlie jumps in here he mentioned about being a light or shining and i thought how precious candle when you're walking around and you need when you're power's out. Do i need to tell you that in california the next time your power goes out and if you have a candle have you noticed how much you protect. Can you candle when you're walking down the hallway or wherever you're at in the kitchen you protect it. The church today needs to protect its witness which is candle jesus i walked to the midst of the seven lamps stance and how many times the book of revelation did. He warned those churches. You better shape up to lose your witness. He says you better watch out or us going to remove your candle. Wow we need to enshrine for christ and ensure our witness for jesus lest we find ourselves right not eliminate any light at all not being a light in a dark place at all. We need to protect that light and protecting that. Light is exactly what we talked about opening not being bold in the lord being strong in him but by all means christian. Find your voice and this is where you find your voice frame here. Okay and to the point. Jack of what you're saying if you think about it the the left which is just a filler term for the current power structure and it's different than liberals at a lotta respect for liberals. They're really really hard to find classical. Liberals people that value freedom of speech that are okay with differences of opinion that the way liberals would be the way they used to be where they might be more socially liberal on certain issues but they will fight tooth and nail to make sure you're able to still assemble and speak. We now have left this running our government which is a completely different philosophical right at the world and if you think about it what what is the one thing they do not control. Currently they control academia they control all of the companies that control our tech companies. They control our media. They control our civil service. They control our government. They control our military. They control our intelligence indians. They control our unions. I could go on and on and on the only thing. They've never really been able to get their hands around. But they're trying comes is the church and they're trying where now you have an openly pro abortion senator from georgia. Who's a reverend calls himself. A reverend and he's now going to be going on the united states. Senate invoking the name of god using scripture to justify one million abortions every single year and so for pastors that. Say oh i don't like getting involved in politics. Well hold on. Politics is coming to your church whether you like it or not and the reason they say that i'm gonna say this is lovingly as i can the reason they say that could be for a couple reasons. The first reason. I'll give them the most benefit for the benefit they don't know politics and they're a little intimidated by passers fall into this category. I think some pastors are like. Aw i don't quite get it. I don't like excuse. Ask questions find people that do understand it. Because we're more than willing to pour in knowledge about something quite honestly. Isn't that hard to wrap your hands around okay with. They're really saying when they say that though is it's a little too controversial for me. I kind of liked the whole expanding our budgets and big building bigger buildings while we're not a political church as some churches in this thirty mile radius will say and yet. They're the first ones to say that. America's systemically racist country that we have to go march the blm incorporated march and they go and without any basis whatsoever start to apologize for their whiteness. And which is something that happened in a church. Not too far from here and so they. They don't want the controversy. And so jack. And i think that everyone here recognizes in realizes this if the left gets the church. We're done and guess what they are working harder to infiltrate the church. The american church is just trying to influence not even infiltrates american government. They are doing everything they can. Through false teaching in seminaries they're getting christian rappers like mccray just completely and totally just hypnotized by this rafael warnick. Nonsense and garbage. You said it perfectly just the life issue. You wanna talk about an issue. That is pretty simple to articulate. Raphael warnock new. Senator from giorgio calls himself a christian. He's perfectly okay with one million abortions a year and three hundred and forty thousand of them are black children every single year. Joe biden calls himself a catholic and he's perfectly okay with that happened. I don't even have to get into the other issues. Such as israel border security child sex trafficking. I can happen to get an album. That's a pretty easy way to be able to differentiate it and so the american church right. Now here's the irony of it to jack which i think you've kind of demonstrated. Is that americans right. Now are are inundated with politics everywhere. We go everywhere and whether it's politics in social media politics at work politics and sports right you can't you can't watch a football game anymore. Who someone without someone saying you know. You're a racist right like okay. I got that part. Okay thank you. It's over top national basketball all that and yet so people go to church to try to get clarity. They go for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes they get clarity for things that they're confused about you. Think about it we have marriage ministries we've prison ministries we youth ministries with summer camp ministries. We have we have ministries that help clothe and feed the poor yet. The one thing that is dominating the american conversation which is politics most turkish. no no. we don't do that so are we supposed to trust you with anything you say. If you're not trying to make sense of the political arena and jack that's why your church is flourishing. Because you've had the courage to stand up and say i will tell you what's going on in the world. You deserve to be rewarded for them. Bless you will be blessed but i want you to understand this that this man right here and this church is going to make itself on a list very soon because we fool ourselves we say they wanna get rid of the church wrong. That's right. I see where you're goin'. They wanna get rid of the churches. They don't like they would love to have state run church. They have loved to have people that have religious authority justify tyranny in fact the church starts working for them. You're just listen. He's he's just speaking history. It's exactly what. Hitler can you live with her. Can't see hey are you know. Don't wanna break this. It's nice but they're good. Here's the deal. Hitler did that perfectly. romania poland. The soviets did that they didn't abolish church. They went in and they looked at what churches were state compatible. They offered the church in those nations. Money will increase your pay as a pastor. I'm not kidding. And there were some rebels that stood out. And i think. Richard brandt i think of dietrich von hoffer and knee mueller and others who stood. And they didn't last very long. They were murdered by the regimes. But churches flourished. I always found it bizarre knowing. I grew up in a marine corps home so i heard about soviet union constantly. You remember when the alarms would. You're too young but the alarm would go off in school in weed weed duck and cover because of a nuclear attack number of that stuff duck and cover drills you guys growing up with the soviet threat. I remember standing in red square in moscow. And i was shocked that there was a church there. There's a church in red square beautiful church. It was a state controlled. That's why it stood in red square and so we're moving toward. Don't be surprised if you hear more. And more in the next four years about state compliance churches churches. That don't speak about anything that gets the states attention. It's coming it's coming and in fact this is some of the language that's already being used if you talk about and this is the this is one of the biggest things i want to try to get everyone in an active posture about because we got way too much to worry about to just kind of go through the whole self. Pity thing and trust me. I did that for like ten minutes. And i cut it out. Okay so i understand it because we got some real serious things that we have to make sure do not get implemented and let me tell and i've been talking about this at length of my podcast and very few conservative. Commentators are actually talking about this right now. tucker carlson's one of the few. That has really been phenomenal on this. But if you listen to. Joe biden's inaugura inaugural address and you listen to even how msnbc responded to it they said. I heard him declare war. That's right. He's declaring new war a domestic war on terror but it's incredibly unspecified and big use. It would be one thing if he said there are these groups of people that are living in this part of the country and this is the threat that they pose and this is why we must do something about it instead. The language that he uses is political extremism. Whoa and the other words he uses are probably more easily defined but still those words get thrown around. but let's just start and stop on political extremism. What does that mean exactly and so bills that are already being introduced in congress. I want you guys listen very carefully about this. Are almost carbon copies of the post. Nine eleven patriot act where now they want a new domestic war on terror that could be an endless war here in the country. They love endless wars but this one will not take the the kind of positioning the cantu har valley. Now this one can happen right here in cameo california and we have the fourth amendment for a reason so that government has get a warrants before they spy on you or they kick down your door and so what is beginning to be proposed because of the tragic events on january six that no one in this church supports philosophically or morally is now grouping seventy five million people into an event and saying because of that we must now have increased power by the two domestic terrorism laws on the books in this country fifty two but they they want a new law. That's primarily being pushed by congressman. Brad schneider from the tenth congressional district of illinois that would give increased power for monitoring surveilling and potentially infiltrating groups. You had a person that to run an intelligence agency use this term that the problem amongst other things are libertarians and religious fundamentalists they could categorize every person that is in this room as a religious fundamentalist. Why are they doing. It's because they actually know they're really really bad governing and their ideas are going to kind of fail so they need a reason to stay in power every body and the reason that they are going to give now is our policies might be unpopular and terrible awful but we're not then therefore give us more power to spicer vail infiltrate and fort when in reality. We know this that we were disgusted by those events that we knew that there was people that got caught up in it that said they made the biggest mistake of their life. They were professional agitators. There were people that were and yes. There were people that are not in any trump movement. I've ever been that call themselves trump's supporters. i'm like. I don't know if that's your you're part of any trump's support ever seen at the other thirty rallies up gone through. They're using this now as an excuse. So what does that mean for us. This means that we are now going to have the most consequential civil liberty fight sense nine eleven for christians and conservatives or we have to say guess what you want to go spine. Americans go get a warrant. Okay go to a judge and say you're going to do you wanna go infiltrate christner conservative group. Go us one of the past that already exists that by the way we know they can be abused because they use it to spy on president trump that we now have to understand the nuts and bolts of the us constitution. 'cause i'm telling you right now. Everybody what they're trying to do is use. The united states security apparatus to try and end disagreeable christians and conservatives. Don't take my word for it. They're saying out loud. So let me let me just put a huge wet blanket overall this. I've and i want to be wrong about this. I'm really do. So i'm watching. I'm watching what's happened. This last four years watching i mean. Let's be honest. And i'm sorry to say this because i know agents here at this church who are incredibly precious diligent fantastic christian men and women who are federal agents and do not include you in this. But isn't it sad these last four years with what we've found out most recently when you hear the acronyms. Fbi now fbi followed by a laugh. It's f. b. i. what a joke. Why because james comey's fbi violated so much of the us constitution and probably will never be held accountable for it. There are in the previous administration violations of the us constitution. We've got issues in this last election where there's violations of the constitution and i'm a little concerned for for this when president trump said we're going to drain the swamp. None of us knew at first. What in the world is he talking about. Then we begin to find out then. We didn't realize how deep it went and now we realize how global it is and i'm wondering now when you have corporations like twitter and google and all these guys who believe they are so big and powerful that the constitution no longer applies to them because they're a bigger tree then the united states. Here's here's here's my wet blanket. I'm wondering if we are just waking up to the realization that the constitution actually bled out and died maybe five six seven eight years ago and we're just now realizing that the body's cold you've got to believe in the constitution you've got to not be lawless but submit to it. I'm not talking christianity. Forget about christianity. I'm talking about being an american citizen. You've got to believe in the cost of a if you don't believe in it. Honestly what are you doing here now. I don't mean that'd be rude. The us constitution is your governing document. It's the guardrails to your highway. And when you don't have a court or a law enforcement that obeys it then. I don't think i have a first amendment anymore. Living on fumes right now are you with me. I don't think i actually have a second amendment and and it's it's just a piece of paper and if you don't understand what it stands for and what it means and where those rights come from and the importance of it and i want to reinforce something there. There are thousands and tens of thousands of heroic federal agents in our country that are the boots and not the suits that go after the worst types of people in our country and actually saddens me because they've been smeared by a small subset of people in washington that decided to abuse our security apparatus. There are people right now in this community in this neighborhood in la where they wake up every day and they go to work for the bureau and they're like how do i get child sex traffickers in prison detroit narcotic dealers in prison and unfortunately they've got looped in to that and that's wrong because those people are doing more work and good work for our country and they deserve to be applauded praise and lifted up for the great work that they're doing and because a couple of bad actors smeared good work. That has happened in the bureau with going after these sorts of people jack wanna go to the social media thing for a second. If that's okay. I i think it is and i hate this existential threat because everything's existential threat to the left but actually is an existential threat. So that's the tragic thing and so if you guys follow my podcast. First of all thank you. I get more emails from calvary chapel. Chino hills people than any other place. So thank you for that. It's awesome so wave you guys. i surely knows. How many times do i text you sent just listened to inject i actually really looks lifts me up. It really does. And so it blesses me thank you. I'm listening. Please get his podcast. Please subscribe pitch. Click here is that okay. Please okay. I it blesses me and i would love nothing more than to wake up and see the charlie kirk show ahead of the new york times tomorrow. Yeah so that's of fun right. If everyone took out their phone everyone has a podcast. Now do it. This is one way to hear me where they can't censor me yet. You type in charlie. Kirk showed if you don't know what the podcast app is. Find a fourteen or fifteen year old near us on the apple iphone purple purple thing. And you just type in charlie kirk show you hit. That subscribe button every every person did it. It catapults us in the door. It doing it blesses. We've been talking about this. Now thank you. It really helps me. Thank you guys. I helps us and helps us. Reach millions of young people every game on and our numbers have been phenomenal. And guess what jack. This church help build the foundation. I remember which we built our show. I mean that and so thank you. And so we've been talking about the tech issue for quite some time. And what good is the first amendment if you do not have the capacity actually spread these ideas and so we need to take a step back here. And i'm so glad you mentioned the soviet union because there is a couple takeaways here. You guys remember. Ronald reagan thousand nine hundred eighty when he said that the phenomenal president from this wonderful state and he said that really. He posed big government and the soviet union as threats to our country and that was correct. Now we kind of have a new power system that has been created in our country. We have two governments we have. The government is silicon valley and menlo park and the government of washington. Dc we have a federal government and we have a tech government we got to reteach civics and our country is right and this is a whole new phenomenon has not happened. Since the early nineteen hundreds where so few controlled so much and computer processing power was non existent when j. p. morgan chase existed right when he when he lived in rockefeller and carnegie. They had a lot of industrial power but they didn't really have the power to shut up. Someone on the side of the street goes think of andrew carnegie. He didn't have the power to say. I don't like what that guy's opinion is. It's i'm sorry. Go first amendment in this country now. You've jack dorsey who has less money than carnegie ever had. And he says i don't like that opinion make him disappear and so i want to just go through a thought exercise with you guys for a second. We have two governments. One that is private and i put that in air quotes one that controls communication and one that you have elections. And you're gonna have some voice which one is more powerful and there's not necessarily a right or wrong answer that some people say the federal government is absolutely more powerful. The federal government can audit. You true it's the federal government can put you in prison one hundred percent. You're right but do you know the one thing that the federal government you can do that. You can't do these tech companies. You can have a lawyer present when you get accused you've due process. You could sue your government. You could find out what you're being charged for like basic rights of knowing why you're going to jail silicon valley government menlo park government. No no no no. Your whole digital existence can disappear instantaneously without explanation your whole digital capacity to exist. I'm talking about who you are. Y'all looking your screen time you. There's people that spent six eight ten hours on your phones today. You're a cyborg and that's okay we can get into that a different time but insofar that we have now basically surrendered to these devices. That's a troubling thing again at different speech. Whatever time your existence is now part of these tech companies and some people like they used to say jack start a competitor. Okay parlor. we tried. What do we do with the competitor. Right great guy. John mates or mazzi. Great i've met with a couple of times as one of the first parlor accounts. I love competition. I want to believe in the ideal of entrepreneurship and in one day. One day one day three one trillion dollar companies that have really nothing to do with the social media space one in hardware primarily one in search engine optimization and one that control servers colluded together and said you shall not exist and they basically wiped off parlor from the face of the universe different than star wars. Getting rid of a plan. It's absolutely true. No that's dead serious. Think the power of that. That's why i'm telling you the big tech companies that we feed boys. Is this going to get knocked off the air. Well now. jackie. Talk about it. How i did. I'm just talking. And their have companies that exists with certain iconic logos that do not believe the constitution applies to them. So they can do that. But my question is why didn't some legal entity. Why didn't some legal power to protect us. Say to if you censor one more american citizen to get your license to be able to function in this country and why not let let me tell you why lease so one of the main reasons that we allow these tech companies to get so powerful is and this is just an honest assessment that we have to take in the conservative movement is we were handcuffed for this. False idea of free market principles. I'm a milton. Friedman guy. I love it however we also have to say what's the best thing for the country and is this actually a free market have we given them. Section two thirty immunity are they operating as a free market so every time anyone popped up their head in there like we should probably not let facebook do this all of a sudden they said. I thought you were for the free market. And they stopped all conversation as if they were reading the ten commandments. And there is no dogmatic there should be no dogmatic driving belief where it's like thou shall never challenge the tech companies like okay. That's insane and it's bad for the country and so what it's ended up being that we've hid behind these free market principles and now not having a free market. You have three one trillion dollar companies that control everything and so here. And here's the other part of it. That's the grim reality is that these massive companies started to staff all of them. There are companies with graduates from college. Campuses that learn to hate the country and we're well equipped to be able to use that newfound power only going to think about it. You just graduated from caltech great school. You've been taught america's terrible. Christianity is false that christian americans are the problem and all of a sudden. You've been given the night shift at google. You're gonna seriously think about this. You're earning four hundred thousand dollars a year and your job is now you've been given the task and the capacity button where you can make calvary chapel chino hills disappear instantaneously and we're supposed to believe they're not going to abuse that power that's why we're conservatives after all right. We think government's going to do that to us. Of course silicon. Valley's going to do that to us and so we're in this new environment and i'll tell you the positive of it jack. Where the only positive after what happened. Because amazon hosted the servers they took parlor down. Google said you're no longer in the android store apple said you're long android store three different. Ceo's three different formation documents three different ticker symbols simultaneously. Said you're done. Here's the one thing they did wrong. And i think they realize it they. Did this way too fast. Where i used to have to go around the and persuade people around the threat of big tech. Now i have to tell you what to do about big difference now. You guys are already convinced the problem you're like so now what do we do. That's already a win. Where now they overplayed their hand. Everyone is now alert to the sex essential threat. In fact they have lost billions in dollars which is a beautiful beautiful. But you guys know if you attend this church. We often talk about how a sin has sin doesn't have self control. I should say evil. Doesn't have self control when it gets. Its hands on something. It goes all out fast. And that's exactly what happened but we live in a remarkable age. And what's the nice thing is is a lot of powerful people who love freedom and for america or god and they are meeting up and they're getting together discussing and talking about so. This is a good thing. Developing companies corporations to go up against. And don't don't be full if somebody if a group gets together and invent something to compete with google or whoever twitter the moment that's out that they are a constitutional loving company it will decimate twitter and all those other guys it will decimate them in short order and i'm just hoping that that expedites and it will because they've just created a seventy five million person consumer market that that that is pretty loyal in their habits and also has above average median income right and so probably a bad sequence of decisions. Here plus you're going to get some civil libertarians in some honest liberals over there you're talking about one hundred million people that are kind of saying wait a second by everything from three companies. Something's not right here. And all those companies represent my values in the other thing. Jack is that you're exactly right. It's genesis eleven truth. Which is that anything that is built without. God's blessing to try to challenge authority. God will scatter and crumble the tower of babel. They are going. They're trying to build something so big. It's so great that it will be. They'll get confused and scattered and they don't know what direction they're in and you know you're sorry but what you're saying segues perfectly into what the bible talks about. In the last days the world is going to have a need a drive for a global governing empire. The bible talks about that in great detail and it is it is the medium by which it envelops the world through a one economic system and the bible tells us that it's not cash it's not currencies. The bible tells us about a two thousand year. Old documents is in the last days. The world will do its buying and selling through new merrick's numbers not currency numbers that no one will be able to buy or sell revelation chapter thirteen in those days unless they have the number of that governing world leader and kind of little bit of a segue to. This is an interesting right now. The world and i really feel sorry for part of the world right now. That's just shaking boots. Because they looked to the united states to protect them against china's encroachment upon taiwan taiwan taiwan to sit duck right now south korea japan singapore that part of the world the leader the one standing leader for freedom is now gone in the person of trump and those nations are terrified but the bible look around the world. Where's where's their in leaders. What names pot up. Trump's gone doesn't matter what your opinion is of them. he was a global. He was the global leader nations. Look damn he's gone so check this out. What an amazing moment. we're in where the world is going to start crying out for leader and daniel tells us that the world will cry out for a leader who will bring them peace and prosperity. That's what the bible says and that guy comes on the scene he's going to give seven year peace treaty with israel. And he's going to dupe the world. The bible says by prosperity and that the way they do it is new merrick's everyone will have to sign up to buy or sell with his number six six six. The bible says number. What an amazing time. We're because you know we've got high tech which i personally believe that. That trinity of companies. You just mentioned a moment ago. They could pick up the phone and call the white house now and say you will do what we say because we can make you go away or we block your communication just like we bought the other guy that's right and it's quite a remarkable moment. If you're not a christian tonight. I would love to know why you're not i can promise you this. You got a really bad excuse for why. You're not a christian tonight. But this bible talks about the god who loves you and he wants to give you meaning and purpose and he sure answer. Are you fearful. You don't need to be careful. God will come in by his power. Give you comfort. You don't be afraid of this in fact everything's falling apart. Well my bible says everything's fallen together. You really need to know that. So it's awesome words and in this time we receive a lot of feedback from people across the country. Guys know the email freedom at charlie kirk dot com. You want to reach me. We read every single email and i liked. I really enjoy doing it. I get a pulse of tens of thousands of people of where they're at and what they're thinking and there's a lot of people that are depressed and upset and that's okay but if that translates into apathy and disconnection then that is not okay. The enemy would like nothing more than for you to be tempted to do nothing. Understand that inaction is a temptation so it's it's a sin of sloth of being sedentary being stationary and so at this moment. What is the hard thing to do. That is also the right thing to do to stand for righteousness the contest for truth to go take new terrain to build new. That's hard because guess. What if you do those things i have promised for. I promise you you'll have more opposition than anyone before you. And you will be persecuted. So my pastor pastor rob mccoy. I met with them over the weekend. Amazing guy from calvary chapel. God speak and he's been awesome. I want to get to mike mcclure in a second. Because i want. I don't wanna forget that. But i was meeting with him. I said rob. I got i got to ask you and i was kind of in just this. I don't want to say snarky mood. But i was just kind of upset right. Everything seemed just be falling apart. Anyone been there lately. It's just everything's terrible. It's awful even just everything's tariff. I get it and so i was like rob. Are you sure it says this in james one to rejoice be thankful in persecution. I don't like anything about this. Like where's the part of playing the oppression olympics and self pity and self loathing and you kind of take a couple of weeks. Off and rob chuckled. Of course we're supposed to rejoice in these trials. ask for wisdom. God will give generously. It's one of the things god tells us that he'll give generously and so then you have to make the conscious act of. Am i going to resist this temptation right now of just kind of being just unpleasant to be around and i go into to submit to this temptation. It says it. James one that god will never attempt to you but the trial will only make your faith stronger. So what if all the sudden this trial for us to really test our faith these muscles right. We've given our life to christ. We worship and god says let's. Let's let's test out those muscles right now. Can you go through this marathon this race. That's an endurance. And i want to say is it's not a sprint. Some of you guys. This last election that i've been talking to it's like iran this through and it's one hundred meter dash. I'm like whoa. Whoa whoa we got one hundred mile marathon to run like i know you went to the trump thing and is your first time getting involved in elections. But i've been part of winning elections and losing elections. Let me tell you what. And i'm only twenty seven years old. I've been part of the greatest political comeback and upset in american history in two thousand sixteen and most disappointing moment. When i realized that donald trump won't serve more four more years. This is a marathon race that we're in right now right and it's not just like oh trump lost. They did this in georgia. I'm i'm never voting again like really. That's your commitment to the cost. Is that you're disconnecting because you didn't get what you want. And but go ahead. We have a mutual friend. Bob mcewen congressman at ohio. Bob nominal precious amazing people. Bob said something years ago. He said that conservatives fight until they lose and progressives fight until they winds right think that for a moment those are diametrically opposed philosophies. The the other team has the tenacity to keep going. They believe in their god little g sometimes more than we do. And i'm not saying by the way. Charlie and i do not believe that by our good efforts. We're going to bring about the kingdom that ain't gonna happen. You'll understand that that if you if you think that we can make america so sweet that jesus has got to come back. That's really messed up. That's not the case we're talking about fighting for what's right and nobody knows that they are the our again. I hope jesus comes back tonight. But i am fighting and i always have been fighting for my kids and then now i got grandchildren. And i'm fighting for them. Because i don't know when he's coming back so we need. The bible says occupied till he comes. Okay it's very very important. This is not the time is charlie. Just said the pullback especially california we should be radically encouraged by what happened in california okay. That's exactly right. Was that ben senator. Is that you then. I love that guy. He does that all the time sauce. That's exactly right. Listen dlt because you know the tendency is. Have you ever seen an abused animal or when somebody's hand does by them. The doug flinches both situations tragic. Don't feel like that. Don't allow that to who we can lost. So what so what you get up and you fight for what's right. This is the cool thing about it. You could lose a thousand times in worldly or earthly courts or the social media trend. You could lose. But if you're standing for the right thing that honors god when the wars are all over the battles decided isn't interesting that your bible talks about for you. And i going all the way through to the end. He who endures the end when the battle is all done then. The war is determined. But the bible tells us god is already determined the outcome of the war. That's why we fight for the life of the unborn. Are we fight to abolish human trafficking. Because it's an affront to god and what happens in our culture around us see if you believe that in. Somebody says you're jury. You should sit down shut up. You can't because your cause is greater than your feelings. Your mission is greater than your likes. All of that stuff that is fluff disappears. You must keep fighting for its right and imagined. Someday we may lose every battle on this earth and stand before god and he just might say awesome. You used you got punched and look at you. You're all scarred up and beat up and look at you lost. And you're like that dump clown at toys r us. She kept punching back. He's back and i wanted to tell you right now. You may have lost every battle on nerve but won the war. Welcome to the kingdom of god. Come on remarkable. it's remarkable. Charlie wanted to question questions. Okay you guys i questioned. Should we as christians leave social media because of the censorship or should we stand our ground. Charlie so i think that we have to. We have to create everything that we have to have new servers new phones all sorts of different. We have new hardware. And it's going to take a while i'm not. I do not recommend social media martyrs people that intentionally try to violate these ridiculous rules to prove a point. I don't think that anyone any good with that. Being said i think that you should try and occupy the current social media channels for as long as possible. Wile alternatives are developed. That's my personal opinion. I don't think. I think there's an another point of view of people say deactivate twitter account. That's it that actually might be the right move for us. Not the right move for me. I'm not saying that everyone should go to twitter and consumer information but i know that there are hundreds of thousands of people that are still on twitter that i think need to hear what we have to set and so it's a different. It's a different dynamic for whether you are a consumer of information or if you are publishing information is that makes sense so if you're out there and you're in charge of the publication side you should occupy all of it if you're just consuming though i by all means recommend in some ways divesting from some of these platforms. Does that make sense and so for me. I'm going to stay on until they just take me off. And i'm not going to go. I'm not going to provoke. I am not going to try and say go make a case out of me. I'm going to follow their rules as ridiculous as they are to try and get as many people converted and also get them to other platforms right and try to get so that we can have that kind of pass way through you know what is beautiful about what he what he just answered. Apparently what's happened in the world is exactly what he just said. There's there's the right amount of people. Like charlie still on but clearly enough people got off to shake them up. So there's a good balance and we'll see what happens with that. I now coming from the. We do need to stay on on the other side of the year. Because you're the producer. And i'm the consumer on my end what i would like to do if i ever go back to twitter. I want them to earn my love. I agree with that. No i want to say. We're sorry we'll never do that again. And we were going to sign the declaration of independence and devotion to the constitution. All right the maybe. I'll go out with you. Well we've already seen an invisible hand and it's totally clumsy but it's working telegram which people just use to use to kind of talk now is kind of become as a replacement social media platform. And they're doing a pretty good job of it and the media is trying to slander. Slander telegram because of some people that do some unseemly things on there. But they don't do that for the other tech companies. Interestingly enough and all the nonsense they allowed to happen on facebook and instagram but telegram we we. Now the charlie kirk telegram we have two hundred and ten thousand subscribers are telegram all the same content that you would get through all of our aggregated feeds. So you would get all of our youtube podcasting and twitter posts. Two hundred ten thousand people subscribe to it. It comes to you like text message and you can you. Could you could decide. Do you want it on notifications or not you could scroll through at your liking. You don't have to go through other comments to deal throw the censorship. it's it is user to use it so if there's a couple people you like to follow every conservative has now started a new telegram channel. Is it a little clumsy. Yeah but is it working pretty well kind of this. And that goes to show that that's where the left screwed up right. What they did with parlor obliterating it and all of this all of a sudden you had seventy five million people at once looking for alternatives and they have felt the market hit and all of a sudden new alternatives are getting created. They overplayed their hand way too quickly. So good real quick. This is such an important question. What can we do to ensure election integrity. Statewide and nash and national levels or at national level. So i have a slide that i want to put up. That's called check the boxes. And i'm gonna be doing this podcast and my radio and everywhere i speak. I'm going to ask people. They say what do i do. I'm going to ask. Have you checked the boxes. And it's just three boxes and so if we could get the reason light up okay. It's somewhat to do with election integrity. But people say what do i do. What do i do charley. What do i do. Check these three boxes. Let's walk through them all right number one list every one of your school board members tonight and put them put the names on your refrigerator. Your reminder listen you pray for them daily you try to get personal contact with them and you make a plan with other church members or friends and you try to influence local government. I guarantee you very people. Tell me every single one of their school board members and what they're dealing with. Just check the box right it. Sally sue murray. It's david smith. And it's you know john jones and they're dealing with whether or not they put sixteen thousand nine project at chino hills and i took them up for coughing. I took him out here. That's that's one of the boxes to check it's easy. are you. currently doing the second thing. Is this what people say. This is weird. Why would i want to do that. Which is learn something new every single day about this beautiful country living. Remember this that making yourself more aware of where we came from the wisdom that preceded. You will make you stronger and better informed how to deal with today. Guess what we're not the first people ever deal with tyranny. I know it's amazing. There have been unbelievably thoughtful people. So maybe it's i'm gonna listen to a podcast every day. Maybe it's i'm going to read the gulag archipelago. Maybe i'm going to read socially maybe any one of those things but you're going to make a commitment like you're running on the treadmill them to learn and that's the thing that we don't talk about enough because if every person here every day dedicated themselves to ten minutes of learning all the sudden unbelievable are going to pop up and then guess what you're going to turn to. Your friends are going to be like you know what's really happening here. This liberal fascism and fascism came from. It's really cultural marxism. It's came from antonio graham she and all of a sudden you're gonna be educating everyone in your local area and they're becoming alert and the left will be kind of walking in the walls and learn something new every day unit. I love about what he's saying. You guys find something you love regarding this challenge. Find something that you love and go for in this in this genre and you'll love it because you're learning something you want to know and you'll retain it and you come your passion and it would become convincing and that is something that each of you have a slice of which is so vitally important and one thing regarding a the list at the top is the fact that local government mattress so much so you look at what's happening in san jose versus what's happening here. What's the difference i want to talk about. Difference is a local government. You need to as a believer you need to groom yourself get yourself ready to run for the school board when that time comes to run for congressman or whatever it might be this is so vitally important and when you look back at our founding fathers so many of them were believers you look at noah webster and those guys they loved god and they ran for office. It's remarkable and so. I run an activist organisation turning point. Usa educational activist organisation. And thank you. And i think we have some turning point. Usa leader somewhere. Raise your hand or somewhere. Awesome here and so i tell our student leaders this all the time. The best activists we have are the most informed and most well read. Activists are the ones that they're like. What do i do on a saturday night. I'm losing my country. You know what i'm going to go. Reread the federalist papers. You might like well. That's kind of nerdy. Exactly you go back into the core roots of who we are and then guess what the spirit will speak to you when you go through these other believers writings. You're like oh my gosh. This is what we do. I didn't realize this. And then then all of a sudden the plan will formulate and so that's why learning is so important and to the listing. Your school board members. I wanna make sure we get to this as we're having the service right now. A fellow cavalry chapel pastor pastor. Mike mcclure in calvary chapel san jose for just opening his church and worshipping jesus facing one point five million dollars in fines potential jail time. Local government matters and mike. Mike mcclure is one of the guys that staying open. I think the only one in all of san jose fellow calvary guy. Yeah why not. Every calvary church in the country is standing by him. I don't understand but this guy is total hero. Pray for mike mcclure tonight because he is standing strong and they are talking about. Potentially i don't want to say anything confidential that he shared with us but really aggressive measures against him. I think that's a fair way to say the reason they're not doing that. To jack is because jackson charismatic. But also it's because that's that works against. That's right but because jack and you guys took local chino government seriously years ago. That's what is because you're exactly correct. There was an interview taking place. And the interviewer asked john. Macarthur has had to fight for every moment since the open duck. How is it that you guys have been open and have been just gotten through this time boy. Are you lucky. And i said excuse me but luck had nothing to do with it. With all due. Respect to grace. Church in pastor john macarthur. He never taught his congregation to engage in culture and civic light our responsibility it was just something he just didn't want to do. And unfortunately now they're coping with a very hostile local government. Where on the other side for thirty years. This church has been praying for contacting local government and county government. What how can we pray for you and getting involved in the elections and letting them know we appreciate a judeo christian worldview value on this next vote or on this next issue. There's a relationship there and it's it's the way that it is and we can become winsome as believers to the world. That's around us. And god will grant disgrace and favorites. Vitally important amen. And the last box. I encourage everyone to check and this one might be a little bit open ended for a lot of you but one of the left strategies right now is to break our will and take strategic chesapeake off the chessboard. Certain people that have been a little bit too disagreeable a little bit too effective a little bit too bold and a little bit too. They were going to try. Remember the left. They're in the business of the personalization of american politics so wanted to be very clear before they go after calvary chapel hills. They're going to try to go after jackets. Because they're gonna think if we can just get rid of him. They're going to try to replace it or they might do it. Simultaneously this is part of their playbook. And so that's why. The i encourage all of you tonight or in the coming days. Just take out a list take out a piece of paper and write a list of the human beings that you have seen above and beyond work their tail off and if sacrifice something people. I can disowns dennis prager jack. Kids rob mccoy people like that. Have they've really. They've really decided that they're going to expose themselves. Because now here's the moment right. Because when they do their big push when all of a sudden the big news agencies and all their power sources say. We want to take that one out now. Because i don't like that there'd be effective in the black community or to effective here. Get them because we control everything. The question is will there be a support structure behind them. The say no no no and so you say well. How do i do that. Well first of all you pray for them by name every night you list them and then all of a and you say pump support it. Maybe a turning point usa. It's getting to know the local turning point. Usa chapter leaders and hosting a dinner for them once a month. Whatever it is you guys know at the spirit will speak to you on. That will give you wisdom. But we're in a moment now. We're not everyone's going to be able to fight everyday like jack i do. But that's okay be someone that helps the fighters because without the people that helped the fighters none of this is going to be made possible. I really appreciate what charlie said a moment ago. And let me say this in front of this route and live rights. What they do is they go after. And they're going to target the charlie kirks and the dennis prager in the ben shapiro's and you know that and so let's do this. I think one of the ways and in fact the word of god. I believe tells us when. Paul says inefficient six. Put it on the whole armor of god. Apparently he has no time in his exhortation to talk to people who put on the armor of or just want to walk around with all of it. We need all of it. And so it's proactive. Because when you talk about the sort of the spirit all of the weaponry that the christian soldier is equipped with evasion. Six is defensive except the sort of the which is advanced the sober advances the shield protects everything protects the sword. The word of god moves ahead having said that. I wanna take intensity to say publicly because i've already been told by friends who are attorneys that you need to get ready now that the way this thing has gone the last few days jack you personally now you me. You need to make sure that you're ready for the irs. Ready for false statements being posted. So i wanna say something right now. Lisa and i've always paid our taxes. No laugh. it's my life. I don't want you to laugh them pretty serious about this. We owe the government. Nothing we pay our taxes every year. We don't make much money to be very honest with you. Everything about us as public most of you if not all of you know where i live I've been married forty three years. I think okay. I sleep with one woman. I have sex with one woman and it's been forty three years and so would you do what you saying that because because with what's coming the way the other team works is that they throw stuff out there. That's part of their game. They're going to put out there. Kirk is actually a girl and everyone's gonna go nuts. Oh my goodness and you're getting an email but didn't really work. they're all. Does that works. Well i want you to your right now before. Anything gets crazy if the irs. And i've been told you know she's done. I owe them nothing crystal clear and i only sleep with my wife. I don't do drugs. I don't drink. What else do you want to know. I love charlie. And jack is talking about is is funny nature at times but i think we're all laughing because we don't know how else to react to. How serious this action. Because we precisely and so. But that's where all of you come in and the hundreds of thousands of people watching is that we're going to show the strength of that support network we're going to show the strength of staying engaged in saying involved. Okay well just so enclosing with this. They're going to screw this up. They're gonna mess it up so we have two choices one choice. Is we do a pity party. And we disengaged and then i guarantee you six months from now nine months from now there will be millions of people that want to come back into the republican conservative movement and we will not have done our job for six months and we'll just be sitting there being like. I thought it was over. I felt terrible in january. And unsubscribe to all the emails. And i told them to stop texting me and i told them. I'm not going to buy another pillow and i'm done no no by the pillow by the pillow. So that's one option or the other option. Is we say the more they throw at us are will will only strengthen our resolve will only strengthen the more that they try to break our will the more that they try to metaphorically blitz conservative christian movements. We are going to rebuild by day. And i will only rededicate ourselves more because then in six or nine months from now when this entrepreneurial genius is just exploding which i can already feel it. We're gonna new servers. Well have new phones. Left's new social media and it's gonna be messy at first you're gonna have like. What was that telegraph. What was that like. I have to do a podcasting. Yeah it's gonna get hard. Okay you're not gonna have one place to go for everything and then all of a sudden things will start to make sense again. Because that's the way that there's there's a rhythm to this stuff and then nine months we do our job. The democrats will have messed everything up. They're going to. They're going to be responsible for all that. I do hope they succeed. I do. I want the country to succeed. I'm not going to be like them like bill. Maher i hope for a session. I actually want what's best for the country. I just know what their policies actually ended up resulting. But here's what's going to happen if we do our job nine months from it'll happen like this. We're going to be so prepared with great candidates so enthused precinct committeeman positions filled. All those three boxes. There will be two thousand twenty two that will make twenty sixteen looked like a ripple and the democrats will get back into substantial power again and churches will be frame listen. Christians will be turning back to the bible. churches will be on fire. That used to be on fire. I think they'll be walking around trying to get churches on fire and listen. We need every church that teaches the word of god and everyone church. That doesn't stay closed but the listen there is going to be. There's going to be a move of the holy spirit. Because i don't think god's done this i don't think that's done with america in its spiritual covenant with god. There could be an amazing last moment of great revival great awakening. I pray for that. You should prepare your heart for that and church. Listen finally this and we didn't rehearse this do you want to tell them. About what a possible turning point. Usa oh well we will tease it. A little bit teaser. Very very big ideas to bring the model and we think we can do this through our expertise at turning point two churches all across the country to get more people more pastors to give them the organizational to give them the leaders. And the mentors like jack to start. Calvary chapel chino hills revolution across the country where pastors doing this through turning-point and throughout organizing capacity. I want you. If by two thousand twenty two there are hundreds of pastors that are preaching with the bold conviction of jackets. Because you imagine and and we we believe that we are able to bring a lot of the organizational expertise and capacity and they'll be some really really big announcements and we might wanna start a turning point chapter here at this church the good. I think it's waiting waiting because want we want the church to get involved in the accuracy. Alert aware what's going on around me. How do i bring the teachings of the bible to local civic government and so and here's the final final thing thank you for subscribing to the podcast. I do appreciate it because it's an over the top way to stay in touch. But here's here's the way. I'm gonna keep on doing this every day on my radio show. And here's how a really really gonna win if you do not show sadness or somber and you remain a happy for your. You want to drive the left nuts. Do you know how they they're still angry. They control everything. I'm watching msnbc and they're still screaming and yelling. Y they're angry. We know why they're angry. We are the happy warriors everybody. We have joy. We know how this works and more the more good cheer. Cheer the more that kindness that we have the more and that's tolerate injustice never. Should you tolerate injustice. But you should be compassionate. Veba will not know how to deal with us. Still say they don't control any government. We control the companies. I'm so angry precisely. Maybe there's something we have that you don't and precisely she's and so be of good. Cheer everybody. I know that feels like the walls are closing in. But i'm telling you right now. This is going to be our finest thanks so much for listening everybody. If you wanna support us. Go to charlie kirk dot com slash support e. Mail us your questions as always freedom at charlie kirk dot com. Thank you guys so much for listening. God bless you and if you want to get involved turning-point usa please go to teepee usa dot com. Thanks so much talk to ship.

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Chapter 4: Samson

O.C. Swingers

30:47 min | 3 months ago

Chapter 4: Samson

"L. listeners note. This series includes descriptions of violence sexual assault and grooming. It is not recommended for young audiences. The people i wrote a show and riley is ongoing case. At the time of this episode's original air date the defendants had not been convicted of any of the crimes alleged against them last week. We learned all about grant rogue shows rise from good old boy too big man on campus. I'm sure you're wondering. How exactly does the school teacher named theresa riley fit into the picture. Allow me to turn the clock back about ten years from justin harman and audio check. This is oh see. Swingers chapter four samson on the bench. Shanna pa she made some passes at man in the dark. They may running alone through the night when she began loving the put out now five. Welcome to your official wedding invitation to i. I'm chad and and believe it or not but after five and a half long long long but wonderful years we are finally getting back. In two thousand and eleven while grant was finishing his residency at uc irvine. Gilligan was engaged to an entirely different man. Her longtime boyfriend in highschool friend chad. Riley chad has bright blue eyes blond hair. Which you're buzzed short back. Then and huckabee physique. He loves watching friends and going to theme parks and busting a move. He's basically a human liberal. What you just listen to was a small snippet from saracen. Chad's nearly ten minute wedding invitation. Which was sent to friends and family in dvd format in the video. The couple dances in the streets cruises in a convertible rides. The tea cups at disneyland and recreate the if you're a bird. I'm a bird moment from the notebook. Bird samuel too. Yeah the whole thing is completely totally almost unbelievably ernest. Souissa who was twenty four had just graduated from chapman university with a degree in dance and had dreams of one day becoming a teacher. In the meantime she was working as an administrative assistant at a charter. Bus company called tes and teaching dance classes to middle and high school students on the side and in what free time she had. She and chad were active members of the calvary chapel of east anaheim's young adult ministry program. Cca is just one of the nearly two thousand churches by the influential pastor. Chuck smith when smith died in two thousand thirteen the los angeles times described him as a biblical littoralis te who believed staunchly and hell armageddon and the sinfulness of homosexuality but from the pulpit and in person the obituary continued. He had disarming warmth in the same piece donald e miller. A professor of religion at usc describes smith as theologically conservative but simultaneously culturally avant-garde. The calvary origin story is hotly contested. Back in the sixties and seventies during a period of religious awakening often referred to as the jesus movement or the rise of the jesus freak a calvary follower named lonnie frisbee introduced smith to a demographic previously ignored by christianity all of a sudden drug addicts inmates and lost. Souls began showing up for sunday. Mass asking for salvation. God is blowing. Everybody's mind because he's saving he saving that the hippies no women. Nobody thought it could be. That's lonnie in a clip from two thousand. Five documentary called frisbee. The life and death of a hippie preacher. The film contends that frisbee helped grow the church and then was promptly scrubbed from its history. Lonnie was not wise enough to understand that people constantly wanted to use him for his anointing and throw him away. As a human being frisbee who openly used drugs and had sex with men died as the result of aids in nineteen ninety-three at his funeral. Smith like tim to samson the doomed biblical figure who succumbed to his own temptations these days. The calvary chapel of anaheim's ethos could still be described as the illogically conservative yet culturally avant-garde it's one of those congregations with the slick instagram presence. Stylish merch and handsome guys in trendy button-up singing catchy songs but back in two thousand eleven. When sarrasin chad were heavily involved. It was still a pretty low fi operation. I found a video called. Don't waste your life in which a young scrawny pastor named tony stands in front of a carpeted stage and calls on his congregation all right so what share with one another here. What did you want to be when you were little and are doing that. Why or why not corey. What did you wanna be a congregate named corey says. He used to dream of becoming a mailman. Rachel says she wanted a job at disneyland. Lorenzo had his designs on the blue power ranger. Then tony calls on sarasota. Who says she always wanted to be a teacher. Tony is pleased with the answer. He says and you were going for teaching the wire and they're and they're right on the exercise continues anybody also. You're doing what you wanted to do or you're moving towards that what you wanted to do. When you're little finally around the thirty minute mark. Tony gets to his point. Don't get distracted from your true purpose. It's a fool's errand to be seduced by things like money parties and popularity in less you. Use them in the service of god at the end of the day. You just can't take that stuff with you. Can i say that if that our funeral all that is spoken of us is a description of how much money we will close. We were how we eat every day. That's all that said. And then there's just winston the room that's it. That's what happens at our funeral. Can i say we wasted our life on saturday. July sixteenth two thousand eleven surrounded by members of the church. Chat orissa exchanged vows at the casino san clemente an event hallward. Judy garland reportedly wants performed. The bride wore a rushed strapless gown and something blue heels and clutched bouquet. Chad in his groomsmen matched tidy heather gray vests and they fastened burlap bucaneers to their lapels. There was a dessert table. Decorated like vintage carnival and piled high with cookies pies and cupcakes in pictures from that day chat. Select like the wholesome happy couple. They used to move empty. Picture frames off a shelf. But the fairy tale didn't last chat was gay and had been all along in two thousand thirteen against fierce protestations. The couple separated for decades. Women have had two options for colouring. Their hair outdated at hong color or the time and expense of a traditional salon. And i have tried it all. So i get why madison reed fancy that the product has improved their lives. 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Newport surgeon breaks bad. Sure but former evangelist. Divorce say dance. Teacher turns sexual deviant. Now that's a story at the arraignment back in october. Two thousand eighteen services. Sister taylor addressed the press. She has been nothing but a wonderful sister niece daughter to our whole entire family. She's a loving and kind person. She's a christian. She loves god. Cerise stayed quiet during early proceedings. She looked miserable. Her choline eyes welling with tears. Her pretty mouth turned almost comically downward in the press she was portrayed as a fem fatale. A beard vixen a temptress outside of court. She was a resolute unreadable. The best we could do is photographed. Them probably arm's length shouted questions. They never responded. Never responded and that was about as close of an interaction. I could ever get from them. Vikki vargas is the orange county bureau chief for nbc. Four news nbc la. She's been covering cases like this one for thirty seven years and is one of the most celebrated veteran tv news reporters in the area. She estimates that she did about a dozen stories on robichaud and riley and always felt like she was chasing after a ghost. You have this incredibly beautiful couple. Who look like they could own the world and are needing for nothing and now the backdrop of how they lived their lifestyle. I think is what got everyone's attention if this were a couple of people who didn't look like this act like this who didn't come from newport beach. It's a terrible thing. But because they are and because he was this bachelor with his persona. I think that's what people perceive to make it newsworthy. We did a very good job at trying to get some background and truly those who might defend them to talk to us. We were told serie was some sort of substitute teacher. Could never find out where found an address for her. Imbera knocked on doors had curtains drawn. Nobody answers so. I thought republi have the right address and really not narrow down what she detroit living with a she lived with him or not if these were roommate which the neighbors claim they were of hers. So there are a lot of disconnects in the beginning As we were trying to do our own background us we was difficult to get a true sense of who they were before this average. Isn't that weird. Perhaps but some people are pretty smart and don't want to be out on social media and other public places though. I've spoken to several people with intimate knowledge of the relationship between grant and sarah fewer willing to go on the record with me for fear of repercussions one person. Told me that quote a lot of people don't want to say anything because they've been around something they've seen something. They partook in something. Some responded to questions and then sent legal language clearly provided by lawyers. Others would only speak to me. In exchange for anonymity grant and services digital presence appears to have been impressively scrubbed from the internet at the time of this recording both the civil and criminal cases against grant and saracen have yet to be resolved. So here's what. I was able to find out after months of deep research the help of private investigators public and sealed documents and more than a few unanswered. Dm's cerise laura. Gilligan was born march. Ninth nineteen eighty-seven to laura lee irwin. Who goes by laurie. Laurie was twenty three years old when she had sarasota recess. Dad is a guy named jeff. Forcus who was once the drummer in a new wave. Rock band called the chumps. The chums were actually kind of a deal for a minute in nineteen eighty five. The los angeles times wrote about the group which went from beloved jam band to finding some rotation on orange county radio stations. Jeff has stayed in the picture but was never a real love interest for laurie. They were best friends. Who hooked up someone. Close family told me her. Dad's very much in our life. He's a great guy and he loves theresa allot says. She has no daddy issues or anything on february sixth national ninety three. Laurie married a guy named michael irwin. While pregnant with their daughter taylor the following year the couple welcomed a son. They named tanner sarasin or half siblings. Share the same wide set eyes and chestnut hair. A friend told me her family is a good normal family christian. But that union didn't last either a decade of marriage. Michael and laurie separated whence orissa was sixteen a year later when sarah was a junior in high school michael filed for divorce and requested custody of their two children saying that he had grave concerns about the children's welfare and safety at the time lori was living with her boyfriend scott and thanks were rocky in a petition. For a restraining order filed september sixteenth. Two thousand four. Laurie accused scott of pushing over box and a large suitcase and causing injuries. Tore neck back wrists right breast and ribs. She said he'd stolen her. Atm card on multiple occasions and was planning to purchase an ak47. I am afraid of scott. Laurie wrote he is involved in the use of methamphetamine and his drinking more and more alcohol. His behavior has become very hostile and unpredictable. I do not feel safe. And i want protection for me and my children after mediation. Laurie her ex husband. Michael settled on joint custody with scott. Laurie fourth child a son named jake. One friend remarked kind of crazy christian family Despite the turbulence at home service to continue to work hard in school she likes to do things right at the same friend said. She was involved in student government drama and on the cheerleading squad. After graduation she attended chapman a private university located about four minutes from childhood home. According to the same friend she was a great student. She was a great dance teacher. She was a great dancer. She was a good bible student. She would get it done. Teresa also deftly toggled between the religious and secular worlds for twenty first birthday services. Parents teamed up to take her to vegas in matching pink t shirts. She and two friends from high school. Drove down to sin city with vegas or bust written on the back windshield okay. So it wasn't exactly girls gone wild. They weren't boas danced on bars. Play the slots and drink irish car-bombs scott the boyfriend against whom her mom. Laurie had taken out a restraining order. A few years earlier came along for the fun through it all her commitment guide and the calvary church was resolute together. The group through elaborate theme parties and went on trips to the county fair and a please call bass lake where participated in a group baptism packing list for these trips often. Included things like quarters for showers spending money and modest swimwear when i clicked through what seems like hundreds of facebook photos of chad and sarasota and their friends diligently practicing choreography and religious scenes praying with their heads. Dramatically bowed or taking group naps on a hostile bed. I can practically feel that giddy buzz. That comes from sleep deprivation prolonged intimacy and a singular shared goal. Chattanooga also became involved with hook outreach. A performance ministry that lord in onlookers the spectacle before switching the messaging to christ the group's biblical motto came from romans five eight but god demonstrates his own love for us in this while we were still sinners. Christ died for us in two thousand and nineteen chad's told the daily beast that the idea was to have something odd happening so people who were down out like homeless people would stop by and they have a chance to evangelize a former member of the ministry who did not wish to be named sent me a link to one of the pieces. The group liked to perform called everything in the skit woman. T shirt and leggings goes through the motions of life. While a jesus like figure nurtures her and provides food then from stage right a figure dressed in all black and hers the scene. He grabs the woman's hand and dances with her. Jesus looks territorial. pissed then. Other suitors entered the scene flinging cash at the women which she crouches to collect another comes around with an invisible bottle. The woman tilts her head back and drinks than two women. Jews your hair and measure waist. The woman makes herself vomit two more figures ride and show her how to cut herself so she slashes her arms one by one each figure appears and then deserts her. The woman puts a gun to her head but right before she pulls the trigger she throws it aside and lunges across the stage toward jesus as the dark forces literally off her shirt at the very last moment jesus throws himself over her like a cape and vanquishes the others the woman stands up. He brushes her off and they hug and leave the stage in each other's arms. Cerita and chad traveled to budapest to perform everything and other skits multiple times in a two thousand ten story that appeared in calvary chapel magazine. Serena's picture performing in a crowded town square. She's playing the role of that young lost woman and dressed casually in a blue slip up sweatshirt. A yellow t. shirt and kneeling in front of her friend. Andrew who is wearing a sign that reads couderc or failure hungarian around his neck serena's hands clasped and her mouth is stretched into a grimace. She was super passionate about redemption. A church friend told me when chad came out in two thousand thirteen just two years after their fairytale wedding. The news sent shockwaves through the ministry. The couple waited so long to get and had committed to staying pure until they did. She was in a relationship with someone who didn't know how to love her. As a woman a friend told me rumours began to circulate. Church leaders offered counseling and orissa prayed for a miracle. A friend said but after the arrest in two thousand eighteen. Chad told the new york post. She fought hard to win me back. I told her. I cannot be your husband anymore. After cheb laughed francis. Orissa became disenfranchised with the church. She was so wounded. One friend said she was disappointed in god so when she matched with a q. Doctor over tinder. Her friends were happy for her. They bit their tongues. As orissa's facebook feed more from goofy youth ministry group shots bikini clad boat rides and dusty neon-lit festival selfies. She just disappeared in that world for about a year and a half or so one said. When i met him they went off his family and his life in his house she quickly became a regular plus one at work dinners. Events lavish weddings were grant and his expansive network of friends were often front and center. If teresa felt out of her depth trying to keep up with her new boyfriend and his group of dr friends. she wasn't copping to it. Obviously it was a little scary. A friend told me he was a party boy which was different for her. He was a little rough around the edges with that. That was a little red flag that i received in the beginning. It wasn't a red flag that he was bad just that she was fearful a little and then i never heard anything ever again and it didn't always feel like she'd succumbed to some sort of temptation not in the over way. It was depicted in the skits. she'd performed anyway. Grant loved her physically. Something she'd never had a male companion and he pushed her to follow through on her childhood dream of becoming a teacher. I know grant has expectations. The same friend told me i remember. He said you can't move in with me until you get this degree or you have your own career. And she was working very much toward that as recently as two thousand. Seventeen theresa was taking classes at cal state university fullerton toward her goal of becoming a high school dance. Teacher is chris. Riley and i am pursuing a teaching credential in physical education. I have very little experience in teaching eels a couple of years ago. I substituted for the fullerton school district. Which is a kindergarten through eighth grade district in two thousand four and two thousand fifteen suicide found part time work as a substitute teacher in the fullerton school district where her aunt robin is a special education director. In two thousand fourteen. She made one thousand five hundred seventy seven dollars teaching and in two thousand fifteen only one hundred ninety nine dollars more than anything. She was interested in sharing her love for dance. With young people. I have been teaching dance to adolescents for seven years now and i absolutely love this age group. She wrote for class presentation in two thousand seventeen. This is the age were they not their parents. Choose to try dance. Start dance or staying dance. I also love the adolescent age group. Because they are still moldable discovering who they are and what they like when she danced cerita became a different person in a video posted to the vixen shows official youtube channel in two thousand seventeen services practicing choreography to christina aguilera song vanity wearing black yoga pants and a sports bra. She combs her hands through her long dark hair. Shimi's her shoulders and smiles widely into the camera. In rehearsals. she was always full out. We always noticed that when we did our broadway show. I noticed that could she was next me in the song. We did all that jazz. This is kia says sesamoid. He created the vixen. Show an ensemble group that regularly performs at gay restaurant and nightclub in santa ana called velvet lounge kia. Mets threw her ex. Husband chad charleston. I have a dance. Group called the victims and boxes. Do like sal shows visits how much minnesota i. I've been doing it for years. When chad was in it a few years later he had me if i'd be okay with bringing at that. Time is hex to join the group to perform. And i was like. Oh she's a singer she's a dancer she's just like me and i'm like are you okay with bringing in your ex because you know how emit chad chad is gay but was married theresa. Before i went in with trusting chad in having her join. I loved her voice. I loved house. She commanded the stage. Sorrento was a triple threat. She could dance. She could sing and though she wasn't exactly alpha in her day to day life. She didn't feel like she had to be big. Kia told me she had major stage presence. There something else that kia noticed. Even though in exchange for weeks of rehearsals performance only received a stipend and pulled cash tips rather than kind of leaving a dollar for our performers. Because we don't have time to grab money. We had a fun game late shower. Your performance with cash like the audience would like roll dollar bills. It's like little balls in kind of just throw it on stage whenever they felt like it and then we all side stage manager that kind of just collected them all david former for that show. Cerita took the job seriously during rehearsals. We don't necessarily ever really go one full out and so we have to record it to film it for to review later or at home but when we're just learning at running it over and over and over for hours hour trying to save energy. What was not the case. She was always going full out. And i took that as someone who was like in it. Make sure that she was great but also was in. The work ethic was incredible. You know the last show perform with the victims fox's was a lady gaga tribute show on june twenty first two thousand seventeen around the forty. Two minute mark serreze takes the stage. And what looks like. Jean shorts blazer kia sent me the show. She doesn't have any choreography. Props. it's just her. And the mike and a lady gaga song about a sexy bartender nebraska. She knows it wrong. New recent may not have been as outwardly outgoing as some of the other women in grants social group. She was weird. A former doctor colleague told me she didn't really talk much and she kept herself but her ability as a performer gave her an edge. She knows she's attractive. Friend told me mentally for little naive thing. You jump into this world where everyone's hot you go mike god i must be hot too and in a competitive social environment largely dictated by men with money. Keeping people interested is half the battle. According to prosecutors seriously used her feminine wiles to her advantage. She would flirt with girls. Dance with them and make them drinks one friend. I spoke to said grant would often go home with a woman and leaves rosetta bar to play the field on the outside. Then try to bring more girls home for him in his first. Press conference former. Da tony were caucus implicated sarasota as skillful recruiter. Women who've encountered these two might've felt false sense of security due to the fact that both venison cleancut good looking. We tend to trust doctors. Who taken out to do. No harm second defendant. Being female is cave the woman purporting to be his girlfriend clearly played a significant role in disarming victims and making them feel comfortable and say this portrait didn't sit right with sarah's friends and loved ones. She's not a sex weirdo. she's not a drug addict. She partied like a normal person. Probably would a friend told me before conceding. I mean being in the christian world your whole life and then may be getting into the party life or the newport beach grant life. I don't know if that excited her or changed her for a little bit either way. On december twenty eighth two thousand seventeen life was officially behind her sarrasin. Chad finally got their divorce paperwork. In in documents filed with the orange county superior court the same court currently tasked with the criminal case against her serena asked to be rewarded from their marriage. Five hundred dollars worth kitchenware. A queen size bed a least mazda. Cx five and eighteen thousand six hundred and twelve dollars held in schools. I federal credit union account. Just the day before deputy da. Michael carol had reviewed an affidavit. In support of searching grant and sarah's newport home the report now included testimony from a third victim a woman who said she blacked out after sarah's served her a single drink and woke up to find a naked gramps crooning her. This woman told investigators. The girl is the worst one. She dragged me for him. She drugs women. They've done this to other people and he is going to do it a lot more next time on. Oc swingers the orange county district attorney says videos found on robot shows phone suggest. The couple could have assaulted several other women together. Do you see this case thousand victims. Good lookin' dr good-looking girlfriend as being a potential publicity vehicle for you. I certainly expected it to get a lotta publicity. Yes there is a deep beyond grudge. I think there's a hatred between those two men and it wasn't enough to be tony. I think todd wanted to bury. Oc swingers is an audio chuck original executive produced by ashley flowers and created written and reported by knee justin harman. It was produced by josh mclaughlin. Editing and sound design by david flowers with additional research. And fact checking by barbara kean special. Thanks to michael carey and and anna hendrick of quest investigates and oren rosenbaum at uta. So chuck. do you approve.

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Pastor Jack Hibbs

The Michael Berry Show

08:36 min | 9 months ago

Pastor Jack Hibbs

"Have you heard about propane. Taxi propane tanks. Propane grill tank. Home delivery service and it's ridiculously easy to order a propane grill. Tanked delivered right to your door. Now's the perfect time of year to get outside and grill with family and close friends or heat up the patio. Make sure you've got propane for any occasion. Go to propane. Tanks dot com. Use promo code tank ten and your first tank exchanges just ten dollars promo code tank. Ten for ten dollars tank exchange. No delivery fees no commitment and no contact propane tax dot com propane grill tank home delivery promo code tank tan in you pastor. Jack hibs is the pastor of calvary chapel in chino hills. California is part of a documentary entitled after trump a warning to america pastor. What is that warning to america. Well thank you so much for having me that warning to america's something that perhaps maybe a lot of americans are not aware of and they may be thinking that it's just about donald trump the documentaries actually issuing this warning that once president trump is off the scene. Be it In this next election or four years from now the documentary reveals the threat of globalism. That's really what it's about. There's there is a march a global march Regarding globalism global government global currency global anthem global world as as it would be and The interesting thing about donald trump is that this guy gets elected in two thousand sixteen and winds up put in a great pause button on the agenda of the globalist. And so it's a fascinating documentary. I think people who watch it and listen to. It will really be enlightened over the fact that We have this amazing little window right now. Where trump is very pro american obviously but pro democracy for any country in the world. One of those of course being israel and it's been It's been something where we as americans need to sit up and take notice But the documentaries quite revealing. I think people get a lot out of it interesting. Why should folks be concerned about globalism for people who don't know what that term means and you do but wh what should worry people about that. Yeah to be honest with you There's only a few countries in the world that are really really concerned about globalism again. One of them's israel canada to some degree. America's leading the way. But why you ask a great question. What's wrong with globalism. Globalism is is the The thought child of of of people powerbrokers the super elite that believe that the nations of the world have failed. There's there they don't have any leadership they don't have any vision and that they need this infusion of unity and it's the unity sounds fantastic but it's unity at the expense of individual rights and freedoms. Now this is. America with all of our warts and olive are imperfections as a nation. America's still the greatest place on earth for personal individual freedoms and most importantly liberties when it comes to religious freedom. globalism is really a dressed up version and type presentation of socialism. It's it's the unification of all but all are the same all have the same status and you might say well that's utopian that's fantastic. It's never worked before. It's not going to work. But you know i'm a bible believing christian and so. I understand that the bible speaks about eventually a day coming when there's going to be a global governance of the world for now we're talking about the united states talking about england. Brazil countries that are loving their independence loving their freedom and Globalism is the answer to disenfranchise nations nations. That perhaps have lost their way and It's it's pretty remarkable when you see these trends moving in and once again twenty sixteen in that election really through some sand into the advancement of that. But you know listen. We're starting to see resurrection. Thoughts of that stuff where In the in the name of globalism let's get a global vaccination. Let's get global numeric currency now. Nobody wants to handle dollars and sense because it could spread viruses and all of these things sound good. We wanna put an end to human trafficking. Of course we do but what they do is come along and say but we need to unite as as a world and come together as one nation and that's just diametrically opposed to our constitution to our three hundred years of history as a nation and So it's fascinating to see again. The documentary reveals this in great detail with a great lineup of a presenters In this documentary documentary is called after trump a warning to america and in the promo materials i read. Let me see if i can find. It was designed to make it easier for christians to use the film as a tool to share with their friends. Neighbors and fellow church members. And you say our vision was to make it possible for concerned christians across the country to host home watch parties and get the word out about what's really at stake in this election. It may be too late for home. Watch party but if someone wants to share that with a family member who's going to cast a vote tomorrow. How do they do that. They can do that several ways. They can actually simply just google after trump The movie they could actually go to my website and obtain their at jack. Kids dot com. That's simple jack. Hibs hiv bbs dot com And they can take take a look or get a copy there The interesting thing about this is that it's it's pretty evergreen. Meaning that even after the election the truth that is presented documentary. People are going to wanna watch it To really see what's coming up next on the global scene so it's not it doesn't expire Once the election's over it's very very needful information. So thank you for that all right. Let's hope folks will go and watch it and cast informed votes pastor jack hips. Thank you very much for being our guest. Come back and see us. It is after trump a warning to america. Mike huckabee's in dennis prager paula. White alvidi kim. Tony perkins Mike lindell was our guest last week. Jack graham franklin. Graham san maria stephen strang and many more all right. We're gonna take your calls coming up seven one three two two five eight seven four. There is an ad that the trump campaign put together. That is my favorite of everything. 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Should God have done it differently?

Cross Examined Official Podcast

50:03 min | 2 years ago

Should God have done it differently?

"Yeah. Does truth exist because you have faith does that make this does God exist? So when someone says there is no true. If you apply the claim to it self, what should you say? Is true. They don't think Christianity through their talked out of it. You know, why they're talked out of it because they've never been talked into it. Cross examining skeptical and ABM view, welcome to cross examine with Dr. Brag doric. Should God have done it differently? Often. Have you heard people say to you? Well, I can't believe we're God. Because God would do things differently. If he really existed. I mean, look the bible too complex to contradictory. They'll say, and if God did exist he would have sent Jesus a lot sooner than than he did. And what isn't God just appeared everyone? I mean, he's too hidden appeared everyone everyone would believe he won't appear to me won't write his name in the stars. Or right in the stars. I am here. What does he do that? What about those that have never heard? If I was got I do things differently. Why does God heal amputees? And by the way, God didn't design our bodies as good as human engineers could. So there really is. No god. Because if there was a God, he would do these things that I mentioned right here differently. Well, I got a letter from gentleman by Nima, Chris he says. An Email our Email addresses slow at cross exam dot org. You're listening by the way to cross examine with Frank Turk. And the American family radio network. He says my name is Chris, and I'm a big follow of your work because apologetic I've grown on my faith, and it will to provide many answers to objections. I was not able to answer growing up in my whole life. Sadly, he says a question, I have it regards. The question of former pastor now claimed non theorist and author post to me on Twitter. Well, there's the first mistake. You can't argue on Twitter. What do you got two hundred eighty characters now? But anyway, he says. He's taking issue with the fact that if God is the God of the universe and the proposed author of the bible he would have been better at communicating and not producing book that in his terms is quote complex and requires quote experts to understand. When I asked him how those objections disqualify disqualify the bible from being true here is his response. He says, quote, a test of authorship is whether the writing displays characteristics known to be true in the name writer. The argument is simple and easy to understand. The God of the universe would not produce such an air ridden. Confusing self-contradictory and hard to read book on quote. Now, Chris writing again, he says my first thought is that confusing hard to read or subjective opinions and not ultimate standards for everyone. They don't disqualify something from being true, but backing up we know God us humans to author the bible, so minor errors in copying manuscripts could be expected characteristics of the writer so ever. I believe this argument is more along the lines at a perfect. God would make a simple perfect easy understand book. And ultimately, he would not have allowed humans to make those heirs. God would have kept it air free. I asked him what airs and self contradictions. He found that affected significant theological doctrine. And he he referred me to his book. I'm not gonna name the book skies in apostate pastor, anyway, he said, I watched some of your YouTube videos than this. But I think he's going into bit of a different direction. He's thinking perfection show ultimately result in perfection. And since he doesn't see it. He denies it. My question is I feel like he's using a fallacious argument. But I'm not quite sure how to respond to him other than read his book and see the errors that he's found. I'm not sure it's I wanna pay twenty dollars for that. Thanks, chris. Now say one thing about I've noticed about former Christians, and I'd never met this guy who's writing to this gentleman, Chris or so I could be wrong about this. I'm just talking about the people that I've run into her former Christians I've noticed that former Christians the ones that I've encountered in any way appear to be the most strident against Christianity. It seems to me they protest a bit too much. It seems to me that they're trying to validate their decision to leave Christianity and Christ and they'll grasp it any argument. No matter how weak in order to do that. Now, again, I can't say this is true of everyone against I'm just basing it on the observations I've had, but it really seems they're doing whatever they can to validate their decision. Now. Why is this not a good argument against the bible or against Christianity? Well, there's there's two reasons I think I think a non theater an atheist in order to make claims like this task to assume a standard God's should do it my way, we'll look if you're an atheist or you're a non theorist, I think you have two problems when you think God isn't doing something according to your wishes number one, what's your standard to make such judgements. I mean is it just yourself? Just your feelings your preferences. And number two why trust what you think about anything much less? What God is or isn't doing. Now, I'm gonna unpack those through the course of this program. But those seems to me to be the two main problems, you're assuming standard. To make these judgments, and Secondly, if you're an atheist, why should you assume anything you think is true? Especially what you think about what God's should. And shouldn't be doing. Why are you trusting your intuitions at all? Let's start with the first one. The standard by what? Standard are you claiming that God has set up his revelation wrongly that his revelation is inadequate. And that you have a better way. How do you know that God is in a cheering his goals with the bible? Just the way it is. How do you know, he's not doing that? And by the way, this is true of other complaints about the way God's running the universe. If you notice most atheists don't provide a number of arguments is to how reality can be explained. If there is no God. In fact, that's one of the reasons when I debate I never debate does God exist. I debate. What best explains reality is at the ISM Raytheon because it puts the burden of proof on both of us. You have to explain how the universe could exist and how objective moral values could exist, and how life could exist, and how consciousness could exist, and and how this fine tuned universe. Could exist. If there is no God. You can't just say. Well, I don't think you're God is right God. And you don't have any burden of proof at all. I mean, it's easy to smell a rotten egg. It's hard to lay better one. Okay. You say my is rotten. Well, what are you going to lay to tell me that? Here's how the universe is. And this is one of the biggest oversight. See when it comes to Christian debates is that somehow just think they don't have any burden of proof at all. They can just shoot down Christianity or attempt to do. So anyway, and they have no burden of proof at all for atheism as well. It's just a lack of belief. No, we've been through this on this program before and it's not just a lack of belief. It's the it's the claim that there is no God that reality can be explained. Best by saying there is no God. And in fact, I like it to to say to detectives, let's borrow my friend. Jay, water wells, say J one or Wallace goes, and he sees a dead body. And he's trying to figure out what caused this body to be dead. He's pointed out there's only four possibilities that it was a natural death. It was a homicide. It was an accidental death. Or it was a suicide. Those are the only four choices you got right? And say another detective gets there and they both look at the evidence. Jim looks at the evidence and the other detective looks at the evidence. And Jim says, okay, I think I have a suspect. Here's my suspect. And the other detective says now, I don't think you're suspect is the right suspect. And here's why I think you got the wrong guy. And then Jim turns to the other detectives. Okay. Well, who do you think did? And he goes, oh, I don't have to give any reason to give any suspect. I just don't think your guy is the right guy. Well, you can just say. I mean, you can do that. You can say what your guy isn't a right guy. Okay. That's fine. But you just can't stop there and say I don't have to do anymore research. I don't have to. I don't have to do any more detective work. My job is done here. I've just shot down your suspect. But I as a detective don't have to come up with a suspect. No, you're a detective you have just as much burden of proof to try and come up with a suspect for that dead body as Jim Wallace does just because you don't like his suspect doesn't mean your job is over. And the same is true. When it comes to eight Theisen Christians Christmas gonna come forth and say, okay, here's why I think the God of the bible is the best explanation for all these aspects of reality. Now, the eighth you can try and shoot those things down that's his Baraga tive, but he can't say at that point. Well, my job's done here. I just lack of belief in God. I mean, if he's doing that then he's not really being a detective, he's not really being someone. Who is trying to explain reality. He's just saying I don't think your explanation of reality is good. Now, we're going to get back to this question. If the God-given it adequate judgment. What are the problems was saying and it sorry inadequate revelation? You're listening to cross examine Frank Turk. Family radio network. We're back in just two minutes. Don't go. Thank you for listening to cross exhibit podcast, this material is made available to you for free country, Regis listeners like you. If you wish to support future podcast, just go to cross examine dot org and click on and donate or simply use the donate feature directly at our app. Thanks. Welcome back to cross examine with Frank Turk on the American family radio network. Our website cross examined dot org. That's cross examined with the end of dot org. And our apples words the app store cross examined. You don't have the F. You ought to download it. It's free. It's a lot of great stuff on it. Clued this radio program this podcast. And you can also see TV show streaming live there. So check all that out. Let's get back to our topic today. We're talking about this question. I got that. This former pastor says the Bible's inadequate if I was got it would I would I would put forth a different more perfect revelation. And we said he has a couple of problems one is he's making a standard without or he's making a judgment without a standard. If he's an atheist, and Secondly, why should you trust anything? You think if you're an atheist much less what God is or isn't doing. And we're talking about the first one now, the standard and. The question is what standard is this gentleman using to say that the bible is inadequate. Now. He didn't he didn't give us any specific contradictions. Maybe maybe he thinks there are contradictions and he has the minutes book. He didn't highlight any of these. But you can't fault somebody for a particular design, unless you know, what the intentions of the designer are maybe God is getting his will done through the revelation that we currently have. This is one of the problems that atheists have when they try and claim say, well, God didn't assign our bodies, for example as good as human engineers. Would you know, why didn't God give us Teflon, coated, arteries, and and titanium bones? Engineer would do that. Why didn't God do that? Well, you can't fault God. Because maybe the reason eating do it that way is because he doesn't want our bodies to last that long or maybe because there's a tradeoff whenever you're in a world with physical constraints. There's no such thing as perfect design. There's only optimum designed based upon the intentions of the design. Maybe a titanium bones would be too heavy and we couldn't move as easily. There could be a number of reasons for it. You can't fault a designer unless you know, what his intentions are. You can't fault the maker of the Volkswagen beetle because it doesn't carry fifty three passengers passengers like a passenger bus. Does you can't say well? You know, if I was designing this thing I'd make carry fifty Fifty-three passengers. Well, the Volkswagen beetle designer didn't want it to carry fifty three passengers and they traded off the number of passengers that could carry for fuel economy and maneuverability same thing is true with your iphone. I wish my iphone battery lasted longer than thirty seven minutes at last now. But if it did, the iphone designers would probably have to make it a lot bigger they can make it the size of a briefcase, and it would last a week, but it wouldn't be very portable then. So they traded battery power for portability. They had an optimum design rather than design of my preference. Perhaps. And so again, you can't fault someone unless you know, what their intentions are. And by the way. It would be foolhardy to say that because the iphone doesn't have the design characteristics. I desire that the the iphone therefore is not designed now even bad design is still design, even if you think it's bad. It's still design. So these these arguments at the spring forth are based on their their own preferences that they wish God did things differently. Well, you know, half the time I wish that too. But that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. Just like it doesn't mean the iphone designers don't exist because I don't like the way they designed the IFO. And by the way, some of the objections that are brought up our moral because if you if you uncover this objection that, you know, it's too complex only experts can understand the bible first of all. That's not true. Yeah. There are areas you need to be an expert understand. But other areas, you don't like for God's love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have Turner life. You don't need to be an expert to know that. Your need to be an expert to know that you're saved by grace and not by works. So that none should boast. You don't need to be at expert for that your need to be an expert that Jesus died in rose from the dead. And he came as a ransom. There's no expert necessary. You don't need to be an expert to know that somebody who is dead isn't coming back to life unless there's a God who can rise him from the dead or raise him from the dead. You don't need to be an expert for that. But there are some aspects of this objection which turn out to be moral. If you if you uncover this objection, he's basically saying that if there was a loving God he'd have a better revelation that more people could understand so more people could become save. That's really where this is going. Well, again, how do you know that if the revelation wasn't based on your preferences that fewer people would be saved? You don't know that? In fact. This is all speculation. And you don't have a moral standard. If you're an atheist or not least to say that God is immoral for doing something a certain way. Now, an atheist could say if your God is loving. Why didn't he do it differently? And we can investigate that speculating perhaps come up with some possible or definite answers. But you can't say is there is no God. And the God of the bible is immoral because you don't have any moral standard by which to judge that. We don't know what the world would be like if they're either was a different bible or no bible at all. Because it's a counterfactual claim and this idea that we can judge. God's divine psychology is a very dangerous enterprise to think that we these fallen creatures who have a very small window of. Of time in which to observe reality. And have a very small window of of experience, given where we live, and what we can experience that we're going to judge the entire creator of the universe with the creator of the entire universe as to how he should do things. That's very dangerous. It appears to me. And again, it presupposes that are standard that we might have is automatically better than an objective. Standard that comes from God's nature. And by the way. I think that the bible is a blend of complex and simple revelation. But I think that makes sense for an infinite God. In fact, it would be strange if an infinite God wasn't strange to us. It would also wouldn't be. Wouldn't be very deep just to have say book of. I just a book statements or book approximations when you have prophecy parables and poetry. I mean, you have a complete the bible is a complete literary masterpiece. It's literary catalogue of all sorts of different genres of literature that are so deep. I mean, I can read a passage that I've read one hundred times and stop. And say I never saw that about this. Or I never saw this passage related to this passage or how this story relates to that story or how this character in the Old Testament is actually a type of Christ. I never saw that before. It's an amazing tapestry. God is the only perpetual novelty and to think that this infinite being should write a basic kids book, see socks run. And if he doesn't do that. Then it's not a perfect revelation. I don't think that necessarily follows. And by the way, being clear doesn't automatically mean. People will accept it. People suppress the truth all the time. There are people today that are denying the earth is round there. Flatter Thor's out there. Now could the evidence be more clear that a trend? There are people today denying that. A man is a man in a woman is a woman and they're adamant about it. And they will shout you down and call you. All sorts of names if you don't want to live in their fantasy. There are people today who are using to acknowledge that a nine month term baby is a human being who deserves protection forty four members of the US Senate this week said that that's not a human being deserves protection. It's clear as day. Everybody knows this. But they suppressed the truth the glued her own way. So it's not a matter the clarity the revelation. It's a matter of the darkness of the heart. The bible is clear on the plane things and the main things are the plain things, and the plain things are the main things, but it is a deep robust revelation a forty different authors over fifteen hundred years. And even within its pages, you have people who illustrate the fact that it doesn't it doesn't matter. How clear something people are going to suppress it and rejected the girl to go their own way. As with raises Lazarus from the dead in front of people. And the Pharisees or the high priests wanna kill him. Want to kill him. And they wanna kill as Rhys. They know he's innocent man, even say, so. But. Jesus is getting in the way business. So we're going to suppress the truth. There you see. It's not the evidence. That's the problem. It's the heart. That's the problem men loved darkness rather than light. And so I think the evidence is quite clear and the revelation is quite clear while I do knowledge their areas of the bible that I don't even understand in many people don't understand there's even disputes in some areas, but they're not the main things they don't have much to do with salvation. And the purpose of the bible stated itself is to make you wise, unto salvation, that's the purpose. Second Timothy chapter three. It's not to tell you everything about everything is to make you wise into salvation. So when atheist bring up, well, you know, if I was God, I do it a different way. Okay. Maybe would. But you're not God. You don't have the perspective. God has and why should we why should we trust your intuitions and your standard when you don't even have standard? In order to judge God that he's doing it wrong. By the way. If you notice some of these objections, I brought up God's revelations to complex and contradictory. God's waited too long to send Jesus God. Why doesn't God appeared? Everyone won't got up here to me. Why does God heal amputees? What about those who have never heard? Why didn't God designer bodies as good as you engineers could notice that most atheists don't really have arguments. As to why eighth theism is true, or how this universe could exist. In the absence of God. They have a few things they point to they'll say evolution or quantum vacuums or multi verses the speculative theories. They don't really have arguments, whoever they just have complaints about the way God's running the universe. Well, again, you need to Stanford. And when we come back. We'll talk about the fact that why should we trust an atheist or why shouldn't atheist trust is own intuitions and his own conclusions about this if atheism his true, then we're going to try and get to a couple of other questions, including the blockbuster video just put out that's getting two thousand. Well, I'll tell you about right every break up. Frank turf, don't go college campuses are hostile to the Christian faith and three out of four young people walk away from the church once they go to college. That's why we go to college campuses and present I don't have enough faith to being in the United States even all over the world when we do this. We don't charge students a dime. That's why we need your financial support. In fact, over the past couple of years, we've been able to grow dramatically because if your generous support and one hundred percent of your donations go to ministry zero percent Goethe. A building. So when you give the cross examined you'll be giving to help us go reach young people where they are legit consider giving today. Thank you so much and thank you so much what you've done already. Ladies and gentlemen. That not only Donald Trump, but a porn star by the name of Jenna Jameson is Goldie. The Democrats or allowing babies to be butchered for not standing up and saying we won't stand for full term babies coming out of the womb surviving in abortion. We will not say that they need to be protected by federal law. Forty four US senators just voted this past week to not protect. Babies born alive as the result of an abortion and Donald Trump. I mean. When you're getting lectured on morality from Donald Trump and a porn star. You know, your moral position must be totally in the gutter. Okay. And. The President Trump to his credit. A few weeks ago was in the presence of Senator coons from Delaware may have been at the prayer meeting or somewhere near the prayer meeting. And he's a democrat. He claims to be a Christian and Trump went after him and said, how could you? Not protect innocent babies who are born. How could you how could you not protect them? I mean, he scolded the guy. And now you've got a porn star scold in the Democrats for this. I mean, they're literally supporting infanticide friends. I'm sorry. I can't talk about this. I know we've talked about it in previous shows. But I mean, this is I can't even believe we're here in our culture day that you would have to have forty four US senators, and by the way, you can find the list of these senators every one of them's a democrat. And as you know, we don't get into endorsing candidates on this program, but we will tell you the moral issues of the day, and how people are voting and every democrat in the United States Senate with the exception of three Casey from Pennsylvania. The Senator from West Virginia I'm trying to think of his name right now. It's on I can see the guys on the tip of my tongue and one other Senator. Otherwise, all the Democrats voted to not protect babies who are being born. I I don't know what to say other than this is madness. Now, look being prolife does not qualify you for public office. But in my opinion, being pro-abortion disqualifies you from public office, especially a nine month old baby. Now governor Cuomo from New York when he celebrated the fact that he had made this legal in New York. He said any argument against this is a religious argument. Excuse me governor, thou shalt not murder is a religious argument. Does that mean we can't have shall not murder in our laws? Please. Just because it's in the bible doesn't mean you can't legislate it. And by the way, we don't legislate it just because it's in the bible, thou shall not murder as part of the natural laws, well, which comes from the same sources the bible. And now, it's not just a religious argument. We're not legislating religion. We're not telling people where when or how or if to worship that would be legislating religion, but we are legislating morality, and that's what everybody's trying to do. It's a moral position to say, you ought not murder babies in the womb, especially those that are born full term. And they're outside the womb. It's not just a religious argument. It is for religious people in Oregon, but it's also a moral argument. And by the way, you're trying to make a moral argument. When you say woman has more right to abort a child at nine months, you're saying she has a moral right to choose look. Everybody's trying to legislate morality the only question is whose morality, and when people say don't impose your morality on me. I say this isn't my morality. I didn't make this stuff up. I didn't make up the fact that murders wrong that abortions wrong that is wrong. That men were made for women and women were made for men in the best way to perpetuate in stabilize society. Which is why the government's involved in marriage to begin with is to legally recognize the man woman marriage over any other sexual relationship. I didn't make any of this stuff up. This is not my morality. This is the morality. This is the one Thomas Jefferson said was self evident. This is the one the apostle Paul said, the gentiles don't have the law the law written on their hearts, you don't even need religion to know, this you need God to justify it. But you don't need God to know it because everybody knows this. Whether they're eighth ius or not. So I don't buy into this idea that the separation of church and state or the religious argument has anything to do with. It has zip zero NADA. This is a moral situation and every law declares one. You're right in the opposite, babe, you're wrong. And unfortunately, and tragically an entire political party appears to be bought in to the idea that you can murder full term babies sorry. That's just the way. It is. You don't like it. You don't have a problem with me. You've got a problem with the Democratic Party. And by the way, the Republicans haven't been all that much better on this either they claim they're all pro-life. But when they have a chance to to to do something about it rarely do they do it. Every once in a while, they do they got the partial birth abortion Bill a band through George W Bush, but that's just that's just banned a a method of abortion, it didn't band a time of abortion. You can still abort babies up to nine months, just by a different method. So this is ludicrous. Ladies, gentlemen. And whose fault is it? Yeah. It's our fault that you're because the church hasn't been engaged enough in society. We haven't been able to explain this. We haven't been able to advocate for it without sound in obnoxious and without sounded like we're THEO Kratz. You don't even need to bring the bible into any of this. All you need to do is point out. That's a human being deserves protection atheists know that everybody knows that the question is are you going to suppress it you want clear revelation. Well, it's clear as a bell. But you don't want it. Yeah. You don't want it. That's the problem. It's not a matter of the mind. It's a matter of the will it's not about God's existence is my friend. Andy Stanley said it's about your resistance. You don't want it to be true. By the way. I gotta mentioned is coming up again. It's going to be in Brooklyn New York this time at the Christian cultural center, we're going to the Big Apple in August. David would is added to the teaching team there as well. As a Lisa chillers. Check all the details out on our website cross examined dot org. If you want to be a part of the cross examine instructor kademi CIA. You gotta sign up soon. It's not cheap. You gotta apply, but we always fill it up. It's great training, soap you can be there, by the way this Wednesday night, March six will be at Calvary chapel. Lexington. South carolina. That's columbia. South Carolina, basically right near there. And the next night. I'll be at the university of southern. Not southern not southern California. I'm not gonna say it USC is South Carolina at the university of South Carolina. The next night March seventh all my sons went to South Carolina. So I'm looking forward to doing. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist there. It'll be streamed as well. Then the university of Memphis Monday, March eighteenth UT, Dallas March twenty eighth UT Arlington March twenty nine three think with our friends at. At standard reason Friday night and Saturday night that entire weekend. And then caught would creek church on that Sunday morning. Check all the details on our website cross examined dot org for more. Now. I mentioned before the break we had this video that just went I hate using the word viral. But this one did had a lady asked me a question. At when I was at Tyson university. Why would God make me a lesbian? Well, the first day. We put this out. It got two thousand almost two thousand views at our and it's still going strong. Check that out. And maybe I'll talk about that. If I get any time toward the end of this program a little bit more. But I wanna go back to our issue here when atheists claim or non Theus claim that God should do things differently. The first problem is they don't have a standard by which they should judge. God, they don't even know what God's intentions are. So how do they know that the way he's doing it isn't the way he ought to be doing it? But the second problem they have is this. Why trust your thoughts or your intuitions about how things should be done? If you're an atheist or non. Because you see this is the fatal flaw. It's universal asset of materialism on one hand these atheists claimed that day, including their brains are the result of mindless purposeless unguided processes on the other hand, they are trusting that those very undesired brains should be trusted not only for the little truce about how the world actually works. But the big cosmic truce about how the world should work. Ladies and gentlemen, why? Trust your thoughts. Why trust your intuitions? Why trust your judgments about anything? If your brain is the result of thoughtlessness, if your brain is merely the result of mindless processes, why would anyone trust the computer that wasn't designed? Why why would you do that? Then why would you trust your brain? It wasn't designed either. According to your worldview now, I think the brain is evidence of designer so I have grounds to trust my brain and its corresponding mine, but eight Theus don't have that in their worldview atheists have destroyed the very apparatus they need to criticize God if you can't trust your brain. You can't trust your atheist conclusions or your intuitions that if there was a God he would do things differently. Look you've neutered your ability to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist because there is no intellect to be fulfilled. If you're an atheist, if you're a moist robot, you're just dancing to your DNA. Then there is no right and wrong. There is no should or shouldn't. There is no better or best way of doing anything. If everything is just blind physics. And that's what you have to believe if you're materialised. So you have to steal from God. In order to criticize the way God's doing things you have to steal your brain from God, a designer who designed your brain to know truth and to have a standard into to make these judgments about the way the world is working you'd have to steal that from God in order to claim the way God's doing. It doesn't is in the right way. I mean, it would be like like me saying my computer wasn't designed. Then you ask me. Well, how do you know your computers not designed well because I fed some raw data into it and told me it wasn't designed. Come on. I trust it. Then. And as I've said before so many times in this show. And you know, some people say Frank talk about same things all the time. But sometimes I do because repetition is the mother of skill. I need to hear things five times for I got it. But it's the same problem with atheism over and over again the same questions you guys send me have the same answers. If an atheist is making any claim about anything, you ought to stop and say time out, how do you know that claim is true? Why should you even trust your mind? Why should even trust your claim the claim you're making now was reason to and you freely followed the evidence if a if you're just a moist robot that doesn't have free will? You're just a molecular machine it's the same answer every time. Because any any attempt to criticize God or any attempt to say, God doesn't exist has to use the very brain. You say isn't designed if you're an eight. So why trust? By the way, also wanna mention that. We've got some new courses coming up. Gary Habur mass of the resurrection course, the best guy in the world on the resurrection will be online live with UV video of you take the premium version of the resurrection. Course it starts in a couple of weeks. I think it's March eleven go to cross examine dot org. Click on online courses to be a part of it. Do it soon run out of room back into? If you find value into condo despite cast. Don't forget to follow us on Facebook Twitter Instagram where you can find just I've cross examined or Frank Djuric on the search. Also, visit our website where we add videos articles of resources. Welcome back to process Annan with Frank Turk in the American family radio network. I got another nail by where Email addresses, a low across examined dot org. I try and get to any as I can't forgive me. If I don't get to yours, but not doing the best. I can this is comes from Kenneth marple. He says I enjoy listening and reading your material a precursor my comment is I do have a master's in apologetic deal. And I typically look to guys like you'd around out my knowledge, and I was listening on February second February second podcast, and I noticed how you responded to the question about 'cause -ality only being in the physical realm. That's when we were talking about Lawrence Krauss saying that all all causes must be physical. We were pointing out how that that can't be. Anyway, he goes on to say your positions where we'll stated in true. But I had a thought to round out a different angle. If a person supposes that only things within the material world can have caused an effect relationships. Then that person would have to believe that the universe is a turn all the reason is for causing affect to happen at all then everything material has to be attornal or there would be nothing. I think this would then cause them to face the overwhelming evidence against the beginning list universe from a scientific angle, and they would have to believe against the evidence or or submit that causing affect relationship transcends, the material just thought I wanted to share with you blessed for all you do for the Christian cause in him can a marble good point can yes because you can't go on an infinite regress of material causes. Because if you did then the universe would have to be a attornal, but be if it was the universe was attorney than the cause and effect relationship. You're witnessing right now, you wouldn't be able to witness why because there's an infinite number of cause and effect relationships prior to this one, and if there's an infinite number of cause and effect relationship prior to this one then the one you're trying to observe now you would never observe because it never would have gotten here you'd always have to observe another one before you got this one. It's the column cosmological argument all over again friends that there can't be an infinite number of days before today because there were if there were an infant number of days before today that they were in right now never would have gotten here. Why because you'd always have another day to live before you got to this one why because there's an infinite number of them. Yes. This can't give you intellectual constipation, especially here on radio because I can't show you a graphic which. But the point areas is Ken is making the proper point that there can't be an infinite number of anything in the past. There can't be an infinite number of seconds, days, minutes, whatever you wanna call it. There can't be an infinite number of material things either. If at number of atoms or marbles. Your has to be only a finite number of these things. And the evidence shows that all material things had a beginning. And if all material things had a beginning than the ultimate cause wasn't material the ultimate cause was immature. Oh that brought the material into existence. Look at the end of the day. You've got two options. Either matter gave rise to mind or mind gave rise to matter. All the matter. How to begin including the argument, we just mentioned here. If matter how to beginning than ultimate reality is a mind ultimate reality is immaterial, and this makes sense to just from our basic understanding of cause and effect everything. That's made of matter is composed. And if it's composed it's puts it's made of parts, which means someone had to compose it. But you can't an infinite regress of composers. Ultimately, you've got to get back to an uncompleted composer who created the first material and composed it I. Odd. So good insight from Ken marple thanks for sending that in. And if you think about this long enough, you realize you do get back to a space Lewis timeless immaterial powerful, personal intelligent, moral creator who created all things and sustains all things who's every attribute is infinite. You arguments for God together. That's where that's where you wind up. Now, if you want to deny basic 'cause -ality you might as well give up all science and just call yourself somebody who is just somebody who decides that he's going to believe things on no evidence. Because if you give away cause and effect, then you can't even believe. Your own experience because you don't know if the cause of your experience actually caused your experience. Cause and effect is just one of the fundamental laws of the universe. Every effect has a cause doesn't mean everything is caused there has to be something that's uncalled, but every effect ause. In any event. Let's go back to this. Question that came up at Chausson university. Young lady asked me would God make me a lesbian now we put this up earlier in the week as I mentioned this. I guess people would expect this to be controversial Q and A. And maybe there might be some conflict going on here. We have very cordial discussion you can watch it for yourself. You go to our YouTube channel, you'll see it there. Why we God make me a lesbian? I gave a four minute answer. And some of it was in response to some follow on questions. She had if I had more time, I would make some other points. I'll make a couple of points right now that enough time to make and much of this is spelled out in my updated book called correct, not politically correct how same sex marriage or it's everyone we updated after the supreme court decision. And so if you want more on this get that little book called correct, not politically, correct? But when someone says God made me this way notice that's a design argument. It's saying that God has designed me in a certain way. And therefore he wants me to act that way. Well, when people say that first of all there presupposing designer. But Secondly, there also forgetting that if you're going to say that God, designed your desires, why would you forget that? He also designed your body. And it's quite clear that God designed your body. But it might not be clear that God designed your desires because your environment your nurture, rather than your nature can sometimes result in a particular sexual orientation or sexual preference. You might have been researched on on this. Okay. So God certainly gave you your body. You're not sure if he gave you your desires, but why would God give you a body that is designed to act heterosexually, but your desires for you to act homosexually. It doesn't seem like God would do that. And that's why it might be more of a. Nurture an environmental issue with the feelings, then it would be certainly with the body. There's your environment doesn't give you your body. God gave your body, but your environment could give you your feelings. And there's a difference between attractions in actions. Well, have attraction to out we not act on it. In fact, I mentioned that in the video every one of us is born with an orientation toward bad behavior. So being born a certain way, even if you are born that way, even if even if due to this fall in world, you were born with some sort of genetic predisposition to a particular behavior that would not necessarily make that behavior something you ought to do. I mean, people are born with all sorts of potentially genetic influences, whether it's two alkyl alcoholism or drugs or tragically. There are some are claiming that pedophilia is has a genetic component. That's what some of the pedophile will say we're born this way. Well, you can't use that argument just like someone who who. Claimed to have an antipathy toward homosexuals. If they said, I was born with anti gay, gene. You wouldn't say that that person was therefore justified in treating homosexuals unkindly or bashing them being born a certain way with regard to feelings is not does not give you just a justification to act that way, we all have struggles with our attractions, but those struggles don't justify our or those attractions don't justify the actions that we might want to engage in. So that's something that can be impact further in this delegate discussion. Look, we ought to have compassion for people who have these attractions, no matter where they come from especially if they don't want them. Because they didn't choose to have these attractions. They just have them. Now. Don't get me wrong. You can't feed your attractions by going down that road. Just like you can feed can feed lost by looking at pornography or gazing at people your attracted to. So there are things you can do to. Dr things you can do to ensure that you don't feed the attraction to already have. But some of the attractions, we have we have little control over. We can only control what we do with them. And in fact, the principled restraint of desires, particularly destructive desires is something we call civilization because we did not restrain are destructive desires, we wouldn't have civilization because every single one of us may included you included. Everyone listening to me right now. Probably every day. We have desires to do something destructive. If we don't restrain those desires. Then we're not going to have civilization see us Lewis famously said for any success in this world, quite a lot of restraint is going to be necessary. So why we can have compassion for people that struggle sexually in many different ways. We should never move from compassion to fault compassion, which is since you're struggling with it. I'm going to condone the behavior that you want to engage us a result of it. That's not true compassion, that's faults compassion true. Compassion is I will stand in the way of behavior that's going to hurt you and hurt others, and is against God's will even if you hate me for it. As Paul says love always protects the way to protect people. Just like if you're a parent, you don't you don't tolerate everything your child wants to do if you're a parent you're not loving if you do that you only can love somebody if you're willing to protect them. And sometimes you got to protect them against themselves. By the way, I spoke a lot more on the transgender issue in last week's podcast. And also the last two segments of the December twenty eighth twenty eighteen podcast called true for you. But not for me that podcast. So if you want more on that issue, go back to that podcast and listen to it. I have a final question here. I need to get very quickly. Someone asked me about. 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Why Young People Are Turning to Cultural Marxism  And How To Fix It

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Why Young People Are Turning to Cultural Marxism And How To Fix It

"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Hey everybody this weekend I'd the Amazing Opportunity Speaking Calvary Chapel Chattanooga I'm honored to be able to share this episode with you, and as of today, we are live on radio stations across the country. So check us out at Charlie Kirk Dot com and has always email us your questions free metallic dot com we tackle the key issues and news of the day and so much more here in the Charlie Kirk show. And also, if you guys want to win a signed copy of the Maga- doctrine type in trolley Kirk, show to your podcast provider hit subscribe and leave us a five star review very important topic here disgust people really having enjoying this sequence of speeches air to exclusively here on the Charlie Kirk show buckle up everybody. Here we go. Charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. To know, we are lucky to have charlie. Charlie cuts running the White House. I WANNA. Thank Joe. He's an incredible guy, his spirit. His love of this country's done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point USA will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Brazil awesome beer. Thank you have a great pastor here by the way. Back. Past. And love this weekend that we had a chance to spend together. Yeah. One of these services has been different. So if you missed the prior three. I think each one has its own unique flavor and I said I wanted one to be kind of dedicated to what's going on with young people in this country specifically in education some of the struggles and I just call it a crisis I'm just being as clear as I possibly can because there's a crisis with. People under the age of twenty five in this country and I think that almost everyone in a position of political and cultural leadership is completely missing it and so addition to being on two thousand and high school campuses I also run a podcast. We get about six thousand emails a week from young people across the country of what they're struggling with what they're dealing with and so I really kind of wanted to build this out of what's going. On and I think there's an interest. There's a lot of agreement that there's something wrong i. think a lot of adults think that there's something just not right and there's misaligned and I think that if we look at the landscape of young people in this country, let's just tell it as it is one of four young people in this country in the last ninety days of seriously contemplated suicide. Let's just stop there that should be the number one number. Forget about employment statistics. One of four of our young people are contemplating killing themselves. That's the Center for Disease Control, what are we doing and so not to mention antidepressant medications up three hundred percent alcoholism. Drug use sexual abuse, social isolation, every number we could possibly imagine. And all the end and you couple that together with run verge of a population collapse in this country. Again, another number that should be kind of on the headline news we're on pace to have five hundred, thousand less children next year than this year it's the most dramatic drop off in the population that we've ever seen in our country's history. So so what exactly is going on and there's a lot of contributing factors last three services I focused primarily on the philosophical theological and ideological problems that are happening in our country I'll touch on that briefly I just think reteaching and gratitude to our children are not properly teaching our history where teaching people to be angry that they live. In America, not thankful that they live in America and I've focused on that quite a lot. But I don't think that's the complete picture I. think that's definitely one of the input variables in formulas but there's something a lot deeper going on and there's a material side of this that people have to recognize realize and so if you've grown exhausted seeing Portland Seattle Los Angeles Louisville kind of being burning burning and rioting and looting, it's very easy to attribute some of that. When it goes on for days all the kids, the young people don't quite understand you know their history which is true or they don't understand what's going on. It's all. It's all correct the something that I think we. Have to get honest about that despite a lot of young people working very hard and playing by the rules, their lives are not getting materially better and a lot of young people borrowed money. They didn't have to study things that didn't matter go find jobs I didn't exist, and we carted off a huge portion of our younger population highly inflated degree mills, with class, sizes that are bigger than this church attendance where learning is sparse, wisdom is non-existent and skills are not being taught and we acted as if that's gonNA. Make us a wealthier and happier country now, ten years. Later when we've doubled our college population, we recognize that only fifty nine percent of kids that go to college. Graduate forty-one percent dropout the average college graduate in this country graduating the thirty eight thousand dollars in student loan debt, and we them in our major metropolitan cities such as Portland Seattle Los Angeles and New York. We're not building equity you're not buying property you're renting you're barely making enough money to survive, and after ten years we look at the data we say, wow, out of all the people that borrowed money and went to college forty, four percent of them are employed in jobs that don't require college degrees. So why did they go to college in the first place and so all of a sudden we're seeing this very understandable outrage that when a kid when a young person's twenty eight. Thirty, two, their material net worth is almost unchanged. They're still maybe forty fifty, seventy, thousand dollars in the hole they're working hard. They are maybe sometimes working minimum wage jobs, and so the trick the traditional kind of center right conservative response is like well work harder I agree with that I think that some people should work harder. How are they supposed to work hard in the last nine months you shut down the entire country. For a virus for young people at a point, zero, zero, zero, zero, five death rate for people our age you took away Spring Sports Summer Sports Prom graduation commencement social gatherings any sort of social connectivity church gatherings across the country. Trying to stop the spread we knew that was a lie it was never gonNA happen slow the spread may be stop the spread stop saying honest with us don't treat us like infants and our generation paying a disproportionate price here when you have bad trends that are happening when you shut everything down, you have a crisis trans- only continue and they accelerate, and so now we need to take a timeout and we say what exactly is happening with people under the age of twenty five and are we creating a? Are we actually being able to handle country to the next generation where they're gonNA have family formation? Have Record. Robust Church attendance, are they going to have agree upon morals and values and will they want to accept the country in the prior state? I'm telling you right now when you have thirty million young people that don't believe the system works for them when they're working hard and their net worth is not improving at all where their debt burdens are unsustainable medical debt personal that credit card debt student loan debt, not even talking about home mortgage debt by the way. At, some point the people at the most energy. They're going to topple the system that you live in and part of that is an awful idea. I spent the last three services talking about how none of that is warranted but we have to get a lot better at recognizing that it's harder than ever in this country to be a twenty six year old financially materially, and we made it really hard the last six months. A great example is the airlines. So we tell young people just work hard go get a skill I. Agree that I'm GonNa talk about that in a little bit. We just let off thirteen thousand pilots from working. I mean we're people that have incredible technical skill that are now being laid off and a lot of it was preventable. This kind of mass blanket shutdown. We're trying to kill a mouse with a missile where we should've had people shelter in place trust people to make good decisions and by the way despite the attacks despite the misrepresentations fund page of the New York. Times five days ago Sweden outpacing European countries in death rates, infection rates, mortality rates, and then the sub head is still unsure exactly what Sweden did correctly well, I don't know they didn't shut down the entire country. They treated people like adults and they also said our young people are gonNA inherit whatever mess we create maybe we should be very slow the shutting everything down. And it turns out that there suicide rates remained basically unchanged. The businesses weren't catastrophically destroyed and we shut by the one hundred thousand businesses went bankrupt in just the last ninety days one, hundred, thousand small businesses, and so here's what ends up happening, which needs to be recognized. WHO's the shutdown good for? People say no one that's not true. It's been really good for rich people. And I'm a capitalist saying this. And I'm telling you right now when people that Jeff Bezos when his net worth has gone up by sixty, five, billion dollars, all of your net worth went down. There's a problem here. And the problem is that working people are gonNA lose faith in the system. And people shower before work in shower after work that work with their hands. These are the people that whether you like it or not the backbone of this country and I think that sometimes some of that anger is misaligned sometimes mis attributed, but it's real. Nonetheless, you can try to convince people that you're you're wrong stop doing this. But when Bazo sexy sixty, five, billion dollars richer Zuckerberg is fifty billion dollars richer and normal working families are seeing Medica-, medical debt student loan debt unchanged their mortgage almost on they're saying is this system really in the best interest of myself. So what do we do about this? A lot of things we can impact with the first thing is we have to. We have to basically have a full fledged prosecution of higher education in this country is it's a disaster. What we have done to young people is we have we have asked high school seniors and that's why I wanted to do with. The high schoolers out here and with young people is we asked the same question over and over again. Hey. Where are you going to school? Where are you going to school? Where are you going to school rarely? Do we ask him? Why are you going to school? Why are you borrowing eighty thousand dollars? Why are you studying? Number, one reason I got when I asked that question is my parents are making me go to school. It's really bad reason. Go borrow eighty thousand dollars. Second reason to be perfectly honest is they say, well, it's what everyone else does in my community is what do you have to succeed little? Do they know that they only have a fifty nine percent chance of graduating on average national? Rate Every college could I ask say can you list name at least five kids that started with the freshman in graduate? Every hand goes up everyone knows people that drop out of school. You know what happens to drop outs their statistically the most likely be addicted to drugs. Perpetually in debt and least likely to succeed. So that forty one percent that doesn't graduate, it's not like they have six successful re entry into society there. Morales. Diminished their entire their whole path or their career path is completely disrupted and sometimes it takes a decade for them to get back. So. If I butlers I can't. We have way too many people going to four year college in this country way too many people we need more plumbers, electricians, Hvac police officers, entrepreneurs, gap year people in serving our United States military people at work with their hands. And I find a lot more wisdom in the plumbing community then in the Ivy League intellectual. So. I get it. It's hard. I came from the suburbs of Chicago. I understand that if you didn't go to college, you're considered to be a dumb person. I didn't go to college. Okay. By the way, college is the right choice for some people I completely say that. So for parents out there that want to throw whatever object is next to you at me. Let me be very clear that it might be the right choice for your child might or might not. So don't think of this pathologically please don't because I find that all the time sometimes parents come up to anger like how dare you say my kid? Ever said that I said proved me why they should. Make the argument the case. And also, by the way, you're going to play Russian roulette with your kids values by the way if you send them to college. They are gonNA come across evangelistic atheism. They were gonNA come across an anti American Anti Western belief system of which we don't have to completely talk about again but it's highly effective, very persuasive and it creates unhappy people just does. So I, think that the disruption that needs to happen is we need ask ourselves the question what is the goal of college? That's the first question we have to ask is it about ideological exploration or is it about skill development? So we we employ one hundred, sixty people at turning point. USA mostly young people and I enjoy doing interviews still and I come into some of these interviews and we some phenomenal workers, the best employees in the entire space I really believe. And I asked the question I say what's your skill? They say, well, I went to University of Tennessee. I said, what's your skill? They said, well, I have a degree in political science. What's your skill? And they said, what do you mean? What can you do that high school kid? CANTU. They said, well, I have a political science degree. So yeah, I got that point. What can you do that a high school kid can't do? And there is expand these I. Don't know I was GONNA go. And the answers usually I don't know. Or my parents maimings I wanted to get the piece of paper now. When we hire in the IT Department I said, what's your skill? They say I can code. I understand computers my great. You know what I mean. Or. When I'm hiring a plumber, it's like what's your skill? It's been doing this for thirty years. God bless our plumbers plumbers. The whole world would be at this aspect think about it. There's some of the most under appreciated people on the planet now seriously owed. I'll tell a funny story about plumbers and a little bit about how society views them, which is just so awful. and. So the question should be, is it about ideological development? Some people just understand parents out there have a complete misimpression colleges. Like whatever you think colleges or what it used to be. It's not anymore. Okay. I visited one, hundred, fifty, five campuses. Two thousand of them in our organization I've met more college kids talk more college professors. College should be in the ideal and again I buy into the idea of college completely but it's not the idea is not happening to create tougher people for uncertain world. That's a good idea. Right? Doesn't happen. It creates weaker people that are better at complaining. That's what it does a college seniors far more mature than a high school senior. No doubt I interview them for a living. And I can tell you that employers across the country and wide agreement wide is a high school senior far more mature than a college senior because their parents around. That's why. Because there is a accountability measure. In College, some colleges or the exception to the College of the ozarks liberty, you got hillsdale. You've got some good colleges out there the exception not the rule most colleges do not challenge students to become a better version of themselves they don't. Instead they challenged students to become activists to try to tear down the system around them. And so the question is so if you WANNA become a lawyer, Doctor Elicits Things College absolutely right reason for you. But if you're like, I'm going to figure it out when I get there. That's a really bad reason to go to college. I'M GONNA figure it out. If you'll save I need degree to get the job. No, you don't you don't. You think you do. That's what people have. Told you. What's the people say? Well, the none of these corporations will hire me if I don't have a degree. That's that's a prejudice that you've built in yourself. We don't we hire more high school graduates in college graduates, and there are best employs that we have turning point. I, know limitless entrepreneurs that do the same in fact. Business owners across the country demanding less people that have come from the academy and more people that have come from real world work military veterans, for example, people that worked their hands, entrepreneurs, community, college graduates, and so applicable. What is look like I think that we need to encourage more young men in particular and I'm going to build this out to take gap years. I'm a huge fan of yours for a lot of different reasons because the college system and by the way if you have. A Biblical worldview used to be very careful sending your kid to college because everything that you've tried to tell your kid not to encounter is not just there it is encouraged. You know that most university campuses have men's dorms, girls, dorms right next to each other right most campuses, and that horrifies parents and they hear about it just like what what they're. Right next to the right next to each other and some some of them have even more shared communal spaces that we don't get into. The drinking culture, all the sorts of things and so. I think that our best asset in our countries, our young people I really do. And We send our young people to. A system that has been proven to put them into debt, lower their aspirations, and just kind of give them. The only option is to kind of go work for kind of a less than desirable fortune five, hundred company. You know how many entrepreneurial ideas that just disappeared because kids get student debt that next generation of business owners number one reason I hear from kids I have this idea I want to do this why don't you do it? I got fifty five thousand dollars student loan debt. Eighty thousand dollars in student loan. And so for high schoolers out there and high school parents, it's a very serious thing. So. I can keep going but I just WANNA. Make sure you get a little bit of A. Oughta make sure that. This is a little bit of a discussion, not a lecture so. There's really no reason. To Mess No. Mess it up and I'm not trying I. Mean if you have a kid in college I'm not trying to say you're doing the wrong thing or condemning or any of those that's not what I'm saying I'm simply elite and I know I know exactly what I'm doing I'm trying to be intentionally a little bit more provocative than I need to be to start a conversation I know will help you your family your kids in the country. That's what I'm trying to do because you systems need to be challenged. and. It's really interesting. You have a whole entire activist media that challenges our current government. That's fine. We challenges corporations. But like the one thing we're not allowed to talk about is higher education. You think about that right who out there is repeatedly critiquing the fact that most colleges offer tuition adjustments now that our kids are basically taking classes. Right. I mean wouldn't like a nice a little bit of a price adjustment would be nice for working families right there just looking at a screen. And the reason they didn't adjust tuition is because they'd realize because they would admit immediately they're charging way too much go to college. That's why. And so. We look into this right now. So a lot of a lot of lot of the kind of calamity of what's happening with young people and it's planning out in every single way the birth rates the alcoholism rates the suicide rates depression rates. A serious crisis right and so that kind of framework is perfect for kind of want to be socialist revolution because we have a lot of young people that are suffering materially. Of course, it's tempting to want to steal other people's stuff to alleviate your own financial suffering. I mean, it's my arguments really hard I. Get it. I say all the time. My argument stop complaining go find someone to marry be loyal that person stop doing drugs and drinking and go work hard. That's a really hard argument, right but the the actually it's more of an opportunity than you might believe because I meet eighteen year olds that have lived in a world where they nothing but hedonistic indulgence culture by the time they reach eighteen years old. And It's the most miserable generation American history understand that right the. Generation American history. Barnum. And so but. It's really it's really fascinating to me is all the things we spend our time talking about this country and the people who are about to inherit. It are on pace to have less babies than any other generation, less happiness, less wisdom and more debt, and that somehow an issue that we don't even discuss openly and honestly and. Political. By the way I doubt. And so here's another a couple things that we have to get very serious about, and it's here's more of the parent directed way. It's how we raise our children and so I I'm meet thousands and thousands of kids every single year and some parents do a phenomenal job. Some parents need a little feedback. and. And we need to be much more firm about teaching our kids self control rather than self esteem. The Self Esteem Movement has done so much damage to our country and even tell you. This idea that you're perfect. The way you are when you're eleven years old is so incredibly abusive to children. I can't even tell you why they're like wait a second I'm perfect. I don't feel perfect I don't have to better myself or I can do whatever I want. It quickly turns into hedonistic nihilism almost immediately instead teaching self controls way more important. Here's how to control your impulses. Here's how to become a master of yourself. Here's how to mature. And here's what ends up happening is the education systems hyper feminized than our country, which is which is a total disaster and third fourth and fifth grade boys should not be sitting for eight hours a day. It's just an awful idea whoever came up with, it should be fired. You got completely disrupt the system three third fourth and fifth grade boys are hyperactive. They can't focus and that's the way God hardwired them. They should be much more involvement learning and even the literature that we teach on average and fifth grade classes doesn't resonate with young boys teaching little house on the prairie. Okay. That's rate for young women. Young boys should be given a biography about Teddy Roosevelt or. Young. Boys loved Biographies Young Women Like More Narrative literature form, and that's that's how hardwired what ends up happening for a lot of different reasons is we have a crisis of men in this country and it's bad for women. It's bad for it's bad for the families bad for the country. Let me be very clear where now you have more single thirty year old men than married thirty year old man. Can you can you let me just reinforce that and so what does that? What does that mean you guys know Peter Pan we have the lost boys in our country where we have grown infants basically and I don't mean any insult to any men here, but that's just that's just what it is where you have a generation of men that have no responsibility whatsoever. And whether it's subsidized by somebody else or they didn't take responsibility for themselves, that's the way it is and so when I go and speak to audiences and I challenge young men to take responsibility for their life, which is exactly what is needed. All of a sudden kind of a light turns on like no one's really challenged me to do that. I've always been told everything from kind of a kind of a victim complaining like the problem I have to change. and that that over time creates a very sad. Set of circumstances where men are twenty times more likely to commit suicide far more likely to die at work farmer like liquor bankruptcy unemployment for men is much higher college graduation from ended much lower master's doctorate degrees all these sorts of things we tell these young men from the time they enter college you understand a patriarch horrible person they're like, all right I'm going to cash out. You'RE GONNA keep screaming in my face that I'm the worst person in the world wanted two things happen they just completely exit from any sort of responsibility and sometimes kill themselves in suicide rates should alarm all of you because it's beyond anything of comprehension or they Feminist themselves. And that's basic or they end up taking responsibility. Those are the three things and you kind of play that out it's really really bad for for the country and for the culture we live and so what are we actually do about it? Young men need to be challenged at fourteen fifteen and sixteen year old by their parents by their pastors by the leaders in their community. The best thing that ever happened to me was first of all I didn't have a smartphone I. think they're destroying our country and I think that parents should not give kids smartphones until you're ready to give them a weapon, it's that simple. seriously. If, you're not ready to give your kid a firearm don't give them a smartphone. These smartphones are designed. Through the social media companies to be more addicting than cigarettes. Young women. In particular, it's even more dangerous than with young young men I cannot convey I I deleted all social media apps off my phone I have seven million followers on these combined platforms I know the people that of divine design, these companies, these things are doing more damage to your children than if they were smoking cigarettes from from how to communicate how they interface with the world, how they have do not pantic relationships. We are seeing driver's licenses go down by twenty percent. We are seeing dating down marriage rates you name it because we have these digital pacifier that are supposed to give us some sort of comfort. Where all of a sudden you interface through the prism of some sort of box that's supposed to give you the next dopamine rush. It's actually possible to be raised in this country that one I pray. I. Thank God. Every day that I grew up in highschool without a digital pacifier was awesome and we had like one of those flip phones where if I needed my I could call one. So if you if you're like I need to be in touch with my kid. Snapchat in your kid. Okay. Like crazy. And it's actually possible to communicate with people outside of that little box that supercomputer that they give you. We need to be more human in our country less cyborg and it's a very important thing that we need to do and I think the other thing that and I'm happy to. Just kind of stop when we can dialogue more on this which is. Actually doing. This is the Best I've done so far. You just keep going. My best interview yet. As you could tell done a little bit of thinking about these issues right I mean. I deal with this every day I get this picture when I get these emails from these young people and see what they're dealing with and I wanna be I wanna say this as a side note before I get back to the social media aspect of this somebody in this room is dealing with mental health and depression and two things. Tough for than you think. Understand that you're a lot tougher than you think you might not be convinced of it and you might not think that your worthy but somebody else actually needs you believe it or not. You might not have that person yet. You might not have communicated with that person and. You might think I'm worthless. You might think that somebody else doesn't. So understand that know that and talk to somebody with through what you're going for communication is everything self harm always happens when dialogue stops always we are speaking beings. One of the reasons why suicide is up one, hundred, seventy, five percent in our country in the last eighteen months is because we stopped talking to each other stop seeing each other we shut everything down we acted like there be no social costs to this, and by the way we are going to be paying the classes lockdowns for the next decade. And young people are going to have to decouple from this horrific decision that we made that. I will never do again and so back to the kind of the social media technology piece I mean there's good and bad things I mean some people say well, it's great. I met my high school classmates in touch with them. I know birthdays. That's pretty bad reason why to have the social media platforms anyway. I guess there's some good things to these things and I mean one. Of. The good things is that we have millions of people that listen to our content, praise God, and we've brought people the Gospel through it and we are able to reach them. However, if we never look at the other side of the coin and we don't look at a wow, these tech companies are actually designing the feed after what gives you the highest rush of outrage addiction. I mean they're designing it and they changed the feed constantly and they say all the Algorithm is neutral. Algorithms are opinions written in Code, what they are there's somebody out there that is designing your child to think differently about the world you know the average kid spent seven and a half hours on their smartphone every single day seven and a half hours we don't have humanity anymore. We are now adjoined to some sort tech oligarch of small group of people that don't share your values by the way just so you understand. That are impacting your kid more than the church more than you are, and so that should give everyone kind of a out and I. It's happening quicker than I. Think we can even understand these APPS are more addictive. They're more engaging than ever, and so what do we do about it? I already made the suggestion. Phone until you're ready to give them a firearm I think that maturity is very important. You turn off push notifications on your phone. So very important thing. And we I've done that it's played a very big role but even more than that I think that there needs to be a recalibration and kind of a reassertion of what is a human being right and a human being is of course, first and foremost broken and depraved by nature in the state of sin, and we need Jesus Christ as our ultimate and only salvation and. The Path that we are on right now in this country in this generation is is is one where we're going to encounter problems and difficulties that very well could put the entire system in jeopardy and could leave our country less free, disintegrate our country, and is dealing with very real material, financial, cultural, and social costs around. And what are you as you're traveling? What are you beginning to see in terms of an uptick? Some signs of hope, some pockets of change and transformation you go that gives me hope where the rest is deeply concerning. What are you seeing the that there is a bit hopeful. Well, I think that the hopeful piece is that the solutions we have work and so. When you have a married lists depressed generation, the solution is will go get married and stay loyal to that person and go have lots of children that's worked for a couple of thousand years like if you think you've cracked the code is being like this really like hip feminist and like I don't I don't need to get married well, maybe it's going to work. For you but like generally, the rule is to get married and have children and that works really well, and it's worked for a couple of thousand years and in fact, I, highly recommend it like it's something that every human being should especially in a biblical context but I also think that the the positives in the optimistic part of what we're seeing out there is. That people are yearning for learning right now and we've seen this in the last couple of services where people are asking really questions they're coming with the reason for a reason because when you see chaos and calamity, the response should not be outrage. It should not be tearing things down it should be dive deeper into the understanding of exactly what is going on understanding. What who Marcona is in critical race theory understanding who Milton Friedman was and what the market is just always dive deeper. When you're confused that's a really really good rule and I'm seeing that and I see a reengagement of the church on these sorts of issues. which which is terrific and thank you for having to be able to communicate this to you because it's not exactly a typical church service but I, think we all agree like, wow, we don't get this thing with the next generation right? A lot of things are going to start to fall apart and crumble right and so for the young people out there everything I mentioned is legitimate and I just want to tailor it to the twenty five, twenty, six, twenty, seven year olds eighteen, twenty, six year olds or even highschoolers. The country got shut down necessarily there's a few job opportunities. We're all experiencing some sort of difficulty. None of that is an excuse for you to play the victim though me be very clear none of it. I'M GONNA, go communicate with the adults and continue try to solve these problems but take responsibility for your life in this country because now it's our country. It is and whether you're happy about it or whether uneasy about it now you have to start making a sequence of decisions. So at this life will be a little bit better for yourself and for future generations and so for to be perfectly blunt possibly can. Stop, complaining and start taking responsibility for every single action you make in your life. What is responsibility look like? It's easy. We throw that word around a lot. Here's the definition of responsibility. If you don't have responsibility and you just take tomorrow off without telling anybody. No one will care. If you do have responsibility, take tomorrow off. Somebody's life will be harder tomorrow. That's responsibility. If no one's life will be made harder tomorrow by your absence, you're responsible for nothing. If somebody's life will be made harder tomorrow by your absence, you're responsible for something it could be a small group could be a business it'd be a family, it could be a family member. So responsibilities the interconnectedness of human beings and loving your neighbor as yourself biblical idea. When you're just in your basement sipping you know. Energy drinks endlessly to three a m not caring about your appearance like the lost boys that we let happen far too often in our country if no responsibility at all whatsoever. So as Jordan Peterson says, sit up straight with your shoulders back. Look at people in the is make your goal sharpen clear and stopped doing one thing in your life. You know that's bad for you. Everybody in this room is doing one thing you know that it's bad for you. Maybe it's drinking maybe it's too much of a TV show maybe it's a relationship. Addition sometimes happens through subtraction, and if you drop one thing in your life, that's bad for you'd be amazed at how you could liberate from that addiction from that focus and I think a much more fulfilled life because of it you might have heard this reminds me of something that John Maxwell said he said you'll never change your life until you change some thing that you do daily. Just one thing just one simple thing and you can see some really profound. Broader Nice Change. What else would you say to this next culture as? We sort. Of head forward. Yup How much time you got there's a lot to cover. So for anyone over the age of fifty five, if you're not mentoring somebody under the age twenty five, you're doing it wrong. What are you doing with that wisdom that you have? To third and you have wisdom go find mnt right now because they need you and they do not have the confidence to ask for it. So don't wait to ask you. Stop It. Don't do that. I meet these people that were fortune five hundred CEOS. Incredible Wealth of knowledge there steeped in the Bible and I just like are you mentoring anyone? No one's ever asked like really. Like go for the sixteen year, olds are not taught to go ask for mentors. So go find a sixteen year old church and be like, Hey, what are you interested and they will talk to you because they're going through a lot right now. And so the other thing I encourages if you're young, go ask for a minute or so that's not an excuse. It's an amazing the kind of intergenerational wisdom that can be communicated in non family members being mentors very important. There's an inherent rebellion when you're seventeen, my parents don't know it but all the sudden kind of a semi father figure comes into picture or a semi mother figure comes into the picture that's non-family related. That's rooted in Biblical wisdom that has has a skill in something you care about it could be technology computing or carpentry. I can't communicate you how effective that is to the stewardship of young Christians and necessary and it happens. So rarely it stuns me. And it shows people that you care shows that you're one phone call away from being able to walk you through what you want to do, and so the kind of back to the education piece and kind of asking the question of what should we do with young people and how should we prepare them for this ever chaotic world of course, ask the question hey, why are you going to college not where you go into college and also just the thought experiment and every family should do this Tally up the entire cumulative cost of college will cost your family financially could be one, hundred, thousand it could be two, hundred, thousand, two, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars and ask yourself the question if I put this in a very conservative money market account over four years what would that look like and if my kid went and worked for four years and acted ethically and did the right thing would they were they being four years versus four years of going to this university and all that money disappearing? And a lot of families when I communicate, they're like Oh. Wow. Two fifty would turn into three, hundred, the four years they'd have a job pay rent be debt free and they still went to church I'd be proud of them and I'd be okay with that. And I to speak as honestly as I possibly can here and I mean no offense by this. But parents, you need to hear this the number. One reason why kids go to college is because of you. And it's because you're. Egos. And I mean this is lovingly I can. It's because parents are unwilling to turn their neighbor and tell their neighbor. Yeah. My Kid's not going to college and I'm okay with that. It's a conversation that is like a no fly zone. Instead it's like, no I'm proud Stanford Mung. Okay well, how's that working? Well, my kid hates the country and he changes gender besides that everything's great. That's It's it is. It's sad though isn't it? Sad? Except for especially, if you're talking about someone who has. You've got you've got a lifetime invested in these little lives. especially. If you're a child of God follower of Christ, you've done the best. You can though imperfectly to try to instill ideas that are eternal ideas that out long after you're gone, they're still going to work in the lives of your children. And then you you know again, we succumbing to pressure from the outside as a parent you go like I couldn't stomach the fact that we would be. One of those that are kid didn't go so not only is it. To school but where specifically is it to school and then only to have your kid just completely scrambled in that way and say I kind of there was a stewardship granted to me and my child, my children and A. At the end because of Pressures Not Divine I have a I have great regret. Great great regret, and some some cases some terrible loss you've shared in times some very specific practical I mean super practical details for the young kid as it relates to the gap year. Yes. So specifically, they show up here. Adjustments. That's a great. Share a few of those because I think they're they're super practical. Very, important very helpful. So here's a fan of a gap year is that you only have that kind of useful energy and excitement once and no it's true I mean and you might have it again. I mean tell me how that happens but. But when you're eight, thousand, nine, hundred and twenty year old, there really is kind of the I can conquer the world. And some of that is not good. Some of it's awesome. Actually some of the greatest companies and greatest innovations that we all enjoy today we're from people in their early twenties that took massive risks and I can sympathize with that because I had an idea when I was eighteen and I didn't go to college and I took the risk and it's grown into something bigger than ever. Could have imagined if I would have went to college, it never would've had would never would have happened and so here's the thing that encouraged for gap years. So just unison I originally took a gap year and it's been eight and a half gap years right and people say you're going to go back to school I'm like, yeah, maybe sure I don't know I mean probably not but. If you're if you're like, yeah, maybe a gap your sounds right for me. Find something that you really care about. Find Somebody in your church or community. That's really good at that. Dress. Nice. Go to bed before the next the night before early look at them straight in the eyes and say take a chance on me. I will work harder than any person you have working for me. I'll work below minimum wage please give me a chance and I'm telling you right now adults it'll be like a hurricane it'll be like of course I'll hire you have never met someone like this. and. They will give you a job that would have taken you for years and a million interviews to get. Out, telling you it's so rare to have that kind of confidence where Young Person Dresses Nice you look in the eye and they'll say all sweep the floors I will do whatever it takes and any entrepreneur out there can sympathize with that kind of greedy attitude I've done this recently where a young man from thousand Oaks California, who is the son of my pastor rob McCoy eighteen years old was being. Told by everyone, he has to go to college and God bless parents for believing in him. He's eighteen years old doing the Mr Miyagi US Attorney Point USA kind of stuff and shirts, but he's earning a good wage. No debt has zone apartment meeting. Amazing people listen to Jordan Peterson podcast and our podcast every day the kid has more wisdom than any other college professor I've ever met at eighteen years old. He's And he has found out what he wants to do and doesn't want to do in his life. You never wants to work on shipping dock ever again, and now why is that important because if you're if you're working at a young age all the sudden, you'll figure out quickly if you love it or you don't love it college just kind of insulates you from that at like immune immunizes you from any sort of idea because when you go on find that job or that internship or that you please give me a chance. Please take a risk on me because I want to be a computer it I WANNA be a doctor whatever it is. You'll see the workflow you'll see the culture and you'll either lean and disengaging. I, don't know if I want to do that. That's the best thing that would have saved you. So time and energy I can't tell you how many kids that graduate from college I go to places like I'd found out the hard way I didn't like this and the that that could have been an easier way to go about it and the other thing is this, which is so the most important thing that kind of in the marketplace that I have found that is the differentiator, which is what if you are willing to work harder than the person next. To you and act ethically with integrity. Those two things are so hard to find and it's really interesting. The kids don't go to college and being always having approved themselves and I'm in that boat by the way everywhere I go people are like you didn't go to college I shouldn't list you I'm like I'm GonNa prove you on. That's why give three, hundred, thirty speeches a year it's I was speak I sleep for hours a night I do it because everyone tells me I can't do it and I'm like, okay fine. But if I went to Stanford I probably wouldn't have that kind of grip to be honest with you or Harvard. I. Went to Stanford Harvard go listen to how Great. I. Am there's elements to kind of grittiness that's created there that sometimes I think gets kind of insulated but also applicable steps which is and this is just the rule and the Bible talks about the so cleared to be so careful taking debt guys I mean debt is the slavery of the free verse after verse in proverbs about the danger of indebtedness. And we kinda sign away the debt with young people. That is so horrifying when it's hundred, thousand, hundred, Fifty, hundred, seventy, five, thousand dollars in debt before they're even twenty two years old, they can comprehend these numbers and so. Just, go through the same sort of financial management. You would getting a car or a home when you kind of take those applicable steps and maybe community colleges the answer maybe more AP classes that is the answer maybe a state school versus out of State School is the answer you know maybe I'm going to go to a technical school and get A. Skill for eighteen months by the way, just there is such a massive gap right now in the skills in our country computer engineers it. In fact, there's such a skill gap that politicians like we have to continue to import people from India that actually have these skills. Meanwhile, Fifty seven percent of our college graduates are studying psychology or the soft social sciences. which is which is fine but it's not. It's a great way to get a job at starbucks. It's a really bad way to get. A high paying, you know job that actually has a scan. It's actually about kind of skill development and the other thing is I want to kind of comment on the church vein here, which is kind of in the college landscape. The fastest growing religion is eight theism. And I approach by more atheists on college campuses that tried to persuade me to believe in nothing than Christians that approach me the try to persuade the they don't know me tried to tell me about the good news that Jesus, Christ so you send your kid to college. There's a chance that all of a sudden you will never recognized their value system or them again, and everyone needs to understand that that truth I talk I get thousands of emails appearance and it pains me. Charlie I sent my kids to school and they won't talk to me anymore because I'm a Christian conservative. And I'm like, I'm sorry and because that kind of ingratitude is taught quite often at these university campuses and so anyway. I just want to be very clear about this. The goal should be, how do we create a country where young people can live quite and peaceful lives like tells us in I timothy and so. We have to challenge our young men. To marry earlier and Mary women have loyal to those women, which is a rarity landscape make good choices and have many children and for young women, we should be very clear whatever you want to do. You have the freedom to do but. To get married before the age of thirty like it's okay and I mean so many young women they're like I'll get after I have a really successful career. Okay. and. All of a sudden they realize thirty and all the good men are done. I hear this all the time all the time like you wouldn't believe. Okay I mean I think that there's something that Kinda worked in the nineteen fifties where all of a sudden the birth rates were going up and families were flourishing and we valued the nuclear family and fatherless-ness wasn't seventy seven percent as it is in the black community and so. There's a responsibility crisis in this country there is. Where people are are saying, other people should be responsible for me. One of the things that has driven just driven nuts. The last couple of weeks and months is where they say well, everything is about being safe drives me out of control. and. I. Say I'm all for safety for recklessness. But there's a balance in all things. If we were just about safety speed limit should be ten miles an hour they should be. There should be right. We have high speed limits because we want the liberty to get places quickly so that we can live more efficient lives. Or forty thousand people die in the on the road every single year because a high speed limits. A lot of that could be mitigated with ten mile an hour speed limits. Instead what's always made our country different it's not safety in prison. You're safe right? You got three meals a day. No Liberty. It's about being brave being wise. That's what the Bible tells us to be right being safe. Okay. Make choices that are you know for yourself but this idea that all of a sudden we are going to micromanage every single decision and you're going to be comfortable and safe is so unbelieving misleading and it's dangerous because what is always made decent western. Civilization. Is a commitment to the brave a commitment to the wise and a commitment to the reason, not a commitment to the automatic that we're just going to. Say. That, we keep you safe like maybe you can. There's a lot of other ways to die them besides this virus. There's a lot of other ways heart disease I'm not diminishing the virus trust me I've lost a dear friend to it. Okay. But this idea that all of a sudden we're GONNA micromanage people's behaviors at the expense of so many other people is just foolish in wrong and backwards, and so the other kind of points to this young people out there that I highly encourage every student out there out and is. The amount of. Afforded you at this period of time is incredible. It really is we have a whole generation that goes around playing the victim. It's the oppression Olympics. Feel sorry for me because of all these sorts of things. Okay. Whatever it's actually your country to dominate. Like it is easier than ever because there are so many people that just kind of in the Professional Complaining Industry Colin Kaepernick, he does it professionally right? His whole thing is just complaining. Everything right. If you take risks and you apply yourself it's incredible. You're able to achieve in this country. It really is, and I want to challenge you to that because it optimistic message it's a message that whatever you think you can whatever your dream is you have for yourself do so in the pursuit with embiid values and for the good of the Kingdom. But only and I'll give I'm look I'm living I'm living proof of us. On the kid that didn't go to college. Chicago was twenty six years old two, thousand campuses hundred sixty people on staff. We've been blessed to have thirty one, million dollar operating budget to podcast today's national radio show and friends of the present a United States only in America story like Pasta. Credible. We we've We've closed each of our services in prayer and I would love if you would close the service and prayer and would you pray know for this next generation and just as you know he spoke back and you you get these emails about kids that say look if it weren't for your podcasts for what you just said, I would have taken my life i. don't feel completely hopeless. Those. So, what would you just close our our by the way as we mentioned? We've got We'll have four or five almost hours of content. This is one specific thing that Charlie really wanted to talk about and we kept it for this audience because we felt like we might have the broadest sorta reach of the young people in the parent but we've talked about all kinds of things that matter right now for the church in this day and age, and we'll have it all available for you but So would you just close are closer weekend in prayer over this next generation and those even maybe struggling right now in sort of that depressive state of say one thing yes sir, which is if anyone is dealing with that sort of self harm problem. My emails always available for Charlie Kirk Dot Com and remember you're a lot tougher than you think. And there's a reason why you're here amen and don't try to convince yourself or somebody else convince you that that is not true and there is an epidemic right now of suicide and every parent has to recognize us in every grandparent has a very serious about it and everything I, talk about contributes to it. So please take that very seriously I've lost seven friends to suicide in just the last three years. and. That should take everyone pause and say, that's no longer acceptable. You say that in California we've lost more more more young people to suicide than from the virus. Yeah. In California. So okay let's do some things so. Dear Lord thank you for this incredible country that we live in. Thank you for this church service and your incredible pastor, and thank you for this congregation for. Welcoming us this weekend we pray young people are experiencing a lot of difficulty in struggle. We pray for those people that are. Just, thinking in the in the terrain of self harm that might give them comfort and that you might give them direction and that they might find a mentorship that they need and we pray for the adults out there that they may make informed in wise choices for their children and with their children and they may take education seriously, and we thank you for the gifts that have been given to us and afforded to us that we might acknowledge those every single day and we thank you for sending your son, Jesus ultimate salvation and we pray that we might be A. Brave church in this moment in our country in Jesus name Amen Amen Thank you so much. You guys want to support us at turning point. USA. The hundreds of thousands of freedom fighters on high school and college campuses across the country. GO TO T P USA dot. COM TEEPEE USA DOT COM. E mail US your questions freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot com freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com. 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Why You Need the Church & the Church Needs You: A Blessing to Believers

Greg Laurie Podcast

28:57 min | 5 months ago

Why You Need the Church & the Church Needs You: A Blessing to Believers

"The following message from pastor greg. Laurie is made possible by some special friends of this ministry pastor. Greg i wanted to say a special word of thanks to the harvest partners. Who make this ministry possible next time. Your online checkout pastor greg's personal blog at blog dot greg. Laurie dot com today on a new beginning pastor. Greg laurie points out. Church isn't so much something we attend. It's something we're a part of you. Don't come to church like the consumer going to the theater which had come to the church like the congregants wanting to glorify. God you come to the church because you have something to bring to the table gifts that god has given you. You discover the joy of serving. Listen you were blessed to be a blessing. Think of your last family gathering. Did you watch from a distance or were you part of the conversation seated at the table or did you observe from the next room. Did you stay for dessert or sneak out early. Family gatherings aren't spectator sports. Everyone is apart. And today. On a new beginning pastor greg. Laurie points out. Church is a family gathering of believers and everyone has a part to play. We'll see how we need the church and the church needs. Let's turn over now to acts chapter two and we're going to look at what god says about the church and the purpose of it says of those for century believers. This is after the pentecostal happened. In three thousand people believed and they continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine and fellowship and the breaking of bread and prayers in fear came upon every soul many signs and wonders. We're done to the apostles now. All who believe were together and had all things in common and they sold their possessions and goods and divided them among all as anyone had knee so continuing daily with gordon. The temple and breaking bread from house to house. They ate their food with gladness and simplicity apart praising god and having favor with all the people and the lord added to the church daily those that were being saved. We'll stop there. This church was healthy. In fact you could sum it up in this acronym. Well they were well. W e l l w for they were a worshiping church e for they were an evangelistic church. L. number one. They were a learning church and all number two. They were a loving church. They were well. Worshiping evangelistic learning than loving. Let's start with that first. Principle number one they were worshiping church. Look at verse. Forty-seven praising god in favor with all the people and the lord added to the church daily. Those that were being saved. You know something wonderful happens. When god's people come together for corporate worship it's just amazing. The bible says god inhabits the praises of people. Haven't you sent to lord's presence during worship. It's a wonderful time number two. They weren't evangelistic e our acronym of well worshiping and evangelistic there was a constant flow of new believers coming into the church. You show me a church does not have new believers coming in and i will show you a stagnating church. Why because new believers are the lifeblood of the church so if we are not evangelize ing soon be fossilising okay so now l. number one. They were learning church so there were worshiping the evangelizing and they were learning. They were learning. And you look at that early church. And they were. Into god's word. I forty to look at it. They continued steadfastly in the apostles doctor. Underlying those two words continued steadfastly. Those words mean they did it with the real passionate. A and there was an excitement. I think we need more anointed preaching today. Don't you think more anointed preachy. But i also think we need more anointed listening. You should listen to. The word of god is though your life depends on it because it ties. Do you realize that your life depends on it. Not only your afterlife. You wanna make sure you're right with god and you know you're going to heaven because you put your faith in christ but then just life in general life before you how to live as a follower of jesus christ. That's how the early church. Listen and that's how we ought to listen in our final point. They were a loving church. Birds forty two they continued steadfastly in fellowship. I love that word. Fellowship comes from the greek word coin india and it's translated many ways. It's actually kind of a hardware to translate. There's not a specific. English word that correlates with it so we translated fellowship. We translated communion. It talks about that something special. That happens when god's people get together you know in malachi three sixteen it says those that feared the lord talk with each other and the lord listen and hurt and that's a fascinating statement because that phrase listened and heard means to prick the year or to bend down so as not to miss a single word in other words. God says well. My people talk to me. I like to eat job. Well my people speak my name. I like to hear what they're saying. I'm really interested. You know i'm talking to you and we're having an interesting conversation. I gotta just tell you if one of my grandchildren come up to me and grab me on the leg and say papa your conversation with me. It's effectively over because it grandchild is calling that's relationship. I'm sorry see. They have their relationship guts. I listened when my children talk to me. I've been down. I pay attention and when we've fellowship in and by that i mean after the service and we're talking of the things of the lord of were sharing things that god has done in our life and versus at are meaningful and even joking and having fun all of it can be a wonderful thing that god will bless. That's why you should not rush out. A church see because they were a learning church and they were a loving church. And and i can hear it but this is in a classroom and we're not just here to absorb x amount of data and walkout. We're here to learn but then we're here to encourage one another. You might have just the right word for someone who needs to hear it after church today or they might have just the right word for you but when you find yourself out fellowship with god you'll find that you're out of fellowship with other believers as well so we'll see well i. I don't know you know the church so full of hypocrites. I'm so sick of that please. Hypocrites okay hypocrites in the church but as a often said it still who cares. There's always room for one more but you understand there are hypocrites and that's not good but sometimes people will say i feel judged when i go to church. People are judging me. Let me see respond to that. That will surprise you and even offend a few. Maybe you need to be judged jeffer- think about that who should be judged. You didn't say fast. We love to quote that bursts that we don't understand we use. That has soared to keep people away that means condemn lest you be condemned. I'm no position to condemn any person. Listen i'll tell you something. I am to judge and you are to judge. The bible says must begin at the house of god. If i see something in your life that i think is dragging you down spiritually. I love you enough to tell you the truth and if you see something in my life that's hurting me and you come and bring it to my attention. I recognize you do that because you care about me. That's not judging that's loving and that's evaluating and we have to be looking at each other and looking out for each other. That's called accountability. And this is why people church hop church hop you know what i mean by church hop. They all kinds of churches. Oh on sunday mornings. We go to this church and other sunday mornings to go to the church. And then mid week we go to this thing and then then send the united states sometimes go to that thing and they think that's so wonderful and i'm telling you that that's a bad thing for you spiritually and you might be surprised to know. The most pastors would agree with me on this. I would rather you be a part of another church. Actively involved attending serving giving and all the rest then come here and go there and go to another place. Then go to another place because really what you're saying is i don't want to be accountable to anyone anywhere. I don't want people to know me well enough to see how you doing. Haven't seen you in church. Well i was at for other churches. Don't judge me maybe you ought to be in one church and maybe you need a pasture and maybe you need a consistent theology and maybe you need a group of friends that you meet with on a regular basis and it's not a bad thing to visit a church. I'm just saying you need a home church. You need your own church. Any your own pastor and he needed a place where you belong a place where you can grow and learn and serve and develop your spiritual jets. That's what the churches for astor greg. Laurie will have the second half of his message in just a moment hearing about listeners. Who found jesus through pastor greeks. Teaching is so encouraging high. Passer greg early last year. I found the lord in accepted him there at harvest christian fellowship before that. If someone had told me that. I'd be a believer in christ. I wouldn't believe god is so good my best to you and your family. If you've had your life changed through pasture greg's teaching. Would you let them know. Just drop them in. Email at greg at harvest. Dot org again. That's greg at harvest dot. Org pastor great continues now with his message why you need the church and the church needs you. We wanna get to the place where we discover the joy of serving. I touched on this earlier. But i think a real mark of spiritual maturity as you. Don't come to church like the consumer going to the theater but you come to the church like the congregants wanting to glorify. God you come to the church like a member of the body of christ biblical verbiage. You come to the church because you have something to bring to the table gifts that god has given you and you discover the joy of serving. Jesus said if you wanna be. I you need to be a slave in the senate band. Did not come to be served but to serve and then you start realizing it's it's a blessing to serve. It's a joy to help other people out. Listen you were blessed to be a blessing and we recognize that. God has given us spiritual gifts. Romans twelve five. Paul says we being many are one body and christ everyone members one of another having. Then give differing. According to the grace at is given to us every believer has a gift or gifts plural. That have been instilled in their life. You say well. Greg how do i discover my spiritual get. This answer. Might surprise you because it might sound unspiritual but it actually will work. Sometimes it's process of elimination sometimes finding out what i'm good at begins with finding out what i'm not good at. So here's what. I would say volunteer for everything you know. We need help over here in sunday. School all help. We need help over here on the short when convert counselors crusade. I'm in we need in here. Is there then. He's doing a very good at that. The kids tied me up and set me on fire. Just didn't respect me okay out on the parking lot. I was hit by three cars. That i ran into. I don't know why do that. Okay probably shouldn't use you there. I tried to help on the worst ministry. But actually i don't don't know how to sing and i found out what i was not called to do by doing it once. This is in the very early days of the jesus movement Nine hundred seventy one probably and all. These bands are forming christian bands for me and you'd see him over at calvary chapel and chuck would come out this band just form one week ago. They're going to come sing for us now. And that's amazing. So i was at a home bible. Study once and we're seeing in some song and one of the guys. There was a good musician and wrote a song and another gentleman that was with. This was an amazing flou- test someone who plays the flute. i founded. it's a flattest and so he goes amazing so he's playing the flute. My friends singing the song. Rojas kenneth singing along and we thought we sounded pretty good. So i started like can a pound. The table beat can beat in the table and they said let's form a band before you knew we had a name so we go over to calvary chapel and we say we wanna play tonight. I forgot what her name was idiocy. Something like that and so we were told it was okay and so i couldn't take a coffee table up there on the stage with me so someone gimme a conga drum. So i'm up there with this band. Guitarist flattest singers and me with a conga drum so the band starts and realizing i have no rhythm really can't do this at all and this may be the most embarrassing moment of my life and this song is like a year long just went on and you can begin. I walked up there. And i knew i'm not called to music. Well strike that one off. The list and i was really shocked when i first called too. Preachy is that was the last thing i ever expect it. But i've found that god gave me an ability. Some would question. This usually my wife after every sermon. No i'm kidding. It's not every sermon. It's most sermons occasionally. No but the point is is you never know who would have ever thought that. I would have never volunteered this week. I'll speak no way i would. No one wants to speak. But when i did it i realized. Oh this is a gift see. It's not a natural ability was a gift. And that's i'm not talking about natural ability. Some people artistic. Some people are more technical in their thinking. Others have this. And that's i'm not talking about that. I'm talking about spiritual gifts from heaven planted in your life by the holy spirit. Say well what. K- here's a list. Here's romans twelve from the new living translation. Just listen just as got his given our body. Different parts and each part of our body has a function. The same is true of the church of giving you the ability to prophesy that means that you would share a word given to you from god and inspired word it could be preaching. It could be one on one. Just some like revelation from heaven about something recall a prophesy speak out when you have faith in god is speaking through you. If you're serving others serve them well service call the serve servewell whatever it is doing well if that means preparing a meal to the best job preparing the meal if that means cleaning up after do the best job cleaning up if that means setting the chirp tearing down praying for someone whatever it is to serve them. Well if you're a teacher. Do a good job of teaching teachers should prepare. A preacher. should know is taxed. If you're call to encourage others do it if you have money shared generously so if god has blessed you with money and and he's called you to give and they're actually as a gift of giving every christian should give every christian to give financially every christian. I believe shit time but then there are those that have an actual spiritual gift of giving the lord is just blessing their way. Do a generously. Paul says if you forgive showing kindness to others do it. Gladly don't show kindness reluctantly i-love-you gift for showing kindness doing gladly. Don't pretend you love others. Love them hate what is wrong. Stand on the site of good love. Each other genuine affection and take delight in honoring each other. I like that take light in honoring each other. It doesn't always have to be about you. You know somebody else has used by god and in instead of sulking or saying well. That should have been me. You should say. I'm so glad. God bless you and and i just want to thank the lord for how is using you and i'll tell you what you want or others. The lord will honor you. Don't worry about it lipped. Others we lift each other up as we all live. The lord up. That's the way to do it. So if you wanna be a growing and successful christian read the bible pray inactive part of the church. We'll let me close by asking this. You know maybe you need god tonight. We've talked about nonbelievers joining us. And maybe you're that person you've come here checking this out. Maybe a friend invited you. Maybe they bribed you with food after the service which you would hope would end. Release soon. you're gonna take in this all in. You're contemplating it but you can't say right now the you know that you're going to heaven. Maybe come here with a problem with addiction to something drugs or alcohol. Maybe come here with a problem with your wife. Your husband or your kids are your parents. Are you having problem over here. A problem in your worker. Whatever your problem is. I'll tell you what the solution is unique. Jesus christ in your life. that's unique. He's he will forgive you of your sin and he will come and take residents in your heart and transform you man when you have the big things taking care of other things managed to sort themselves out when you know you're going to heaven whatever pressure you're under our stretcher facing it kind of puts it in perspective. Do you know you're going to heaven. Are you sure right. Now that if you were to die you would go to heaven. I hate to break this to you. But the only other alternative is hell and the last thing god wants us for any man or woman made in his image to end up in hell and that's why he sent. Jesus christ his own son to die on the cross for our send. The paid the price for every sin. We've committed and if will turn from our sin and put our faith in jesus god will forgive us and we can have the guaranteed assurance of heaven and then we have christ living in us. Have you done that yet. In a moment. We're going to pray. And i will extend an invitation for you to believe in jesus listen becoming a christian doesn't take years it doesn't take months it doesn't take weeks it doesn't take days it doesn't even take hours. It can happen just like that for you. Jesus stands at the door of your life and he knocks and he says if you'll hear his voice and opened the door he will come in. He'll come into your life but you must ask him in. I'll give you an opportunity to do that. Let's all our heads father. Thank you for your word to us. Tonight lord jesus thank you for coming to this earth on a rescue operation to die on the cross for our sins. Now i pray for any who do not know you help them to see their need for you to help them to come to you. We pray pastor. Greg laurie with an important prayer. And if you'd like to make a change today in your relationship with the lord pastor. Greg will help you do that in just a moment before. Today's edition of a new beginning concludes. Did you hear all of today's study here on a new beginning. If not you can catch up by going online to harvest dot org look for the title. Why you need the church and the church needs you or to get a cd. Caller twenty four hour phone number one eight hundred eighty two one. Thirty three hundred. That's one eight hundred. Eighty two one three three zero zero. And then what a privilege. It is to have baseball. Great daryl strawberry with us today has just released. A new book called. Turn your season around. The subtitle is how god transforms your life. You know darryl. You've made a u-turn from so many issues in your life what council you have for others who need to turn their back on drugs. Erred drinking or immorality but they just find themselves being pulled back into all that stuff especially during this pandemic if they were sitting across the table from you. What would you say to them. I would say to them That they really should be able to accept the help from someone who truly loves him. You know i think of my life hi may determine it was because of my wife tracy like eighteen years ago i was in dope houses south florida shooting dope smoking crack and she was banging on doors kicking him down coming pulling me out and she actually was love me through the whole process. When i couldn't myself. And i would just say to someone that's struggling with that when you see someone loving you through the process when you can't love yourself allow that help to to to help you and that period of time i mean. There's a lot of confusing going on you. You feel hopeless at that time. But one thing i've learned through this process of change of life life didn't change by myself. God us people to help people and when we can understand the importance of other people encouraging you and walking with you and not tolerating which tracy didn't she didn't tolerate. I'm my madness. But she's still encouraged me to help me. That god had a plan for me. You don't have to accept you know what the person is going through. But at the same time you still show love and compassion. So i would just courage anyone. That's struggling if somebody showing you some love and compassion trust. The process is not overnight. Miracle it just doesn't happen like that nisa a process and once i went through the process and accepted the help from somebody else i start to get on the other side because when you think about everybody that got used in the bible they all had struggles in issues too just like all the rest of us and you know those. Don't struggle the issues. They only get on the side with other people helping you and encouraging you do your faith so if you want to get a copy of strawberries brand new book. That he feels is the most important book he's ever written. You can get it from us here to new beginning again. 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Who wants to make a change today in their relationship with the lord. I'd be happy to dave. You know as you've been listening to this today. Maybe you've heard another voice by that. I mean you heard me say a few things. But you heard god's voice speak to you deep in the recesses of your heart and it suddenly dawned on you. This is what i need or to state at more accurately. This is who i need. I need jesus. And i want jesus but maybe you don't know how to make that connection. Let me help you. Pray this after me right now. If you want jesus christ to come into your life lord jesus i know i m center and i am sorry for my sin and i need your forgiveness right now. Would you come into my heart. My life as savior as god as friend. I choose to follow you from this moment forward. Thank you for calling me and accepting me and forgiving me and jesus name. I pray amen. I know there was a relatively short prayer. Maybe you felt something as you prayed it. Maybe you felt nothing. That doesn't really matter. Because god's word says these things we write to you that believe on the name of the son of god that you may know that you have eternal life. It doesn't say so. You may think you have it or you may hope you have it. If god's in a good mood no that you can know it. And i want you to know if you pray. Their prayer in minute. Jesus christ the son of god has come into your life so congratulations. You're now a christian now. Continue to follow the lord and to help you. We'd like to send you some resource materials. We call our new believers growth packet. It lasts for many of the questions you might have and get you started off right in your new relationship with the lord so get in touch and ask for it. We'll send it free of charge right a new beginning box. Four thousand riverside california nine to five one four or call one eight hundred eighty to one thirty three hundred. We're here to talk with you around the clock so call now one. 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Best of 2020: Pastor Greg Laurie Then & Now: Getting on Our Level

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Best of 2020: Pastor Greg Laurie Then & Now: Getting on Our Level

"The following message from pastor greg. Laurie is made possible by harvest. Partners helping people everywhere. No god to find out how to know god personally go to know. God dot org k. N. o. w. no god dot org. Hey would you do me a favor. Share this message was someone who needs to hear it. God comes to each one of us on our own level. Even at the age of twenty four pastor greg. Laurie was preaching the gospel. He was eager to tell people. He had an emptiness in his life. But god filled. You have an emptiness inside of you to the only difference is i tried to fill my maybe a little differently than you. Try to feel yours but you know the far out thing about the lord. No matter what our age is old. We are how young we are everything from eight year. Old child to a rock musician. He the each one of us says. Hey i love you. Were you around in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven back then. The miniseries roots premiered on tv. A postage stamp was thirteen sense. Gas was sixty. Two cents and snow fell in miami florida in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy seven pastor greg. Laurie was standing at a pulpit of entrepreneur message to give his testimony today on a new beginning. We'll hear that recording twenty four year old breaks voice was higher but his passion for the gospel was already deep and infectious. I started getting into smoking. Grass in the sixties and. It was when the so-called hippy movement started gaining popularity. You know tune in. Turn on dropout. I started hanging around with a bunch of friends that were really into getting loaded. And i started growing my hair long. Doing the whole thing and really becoming hippie and so we had an english class and we were supposed to go. Watch romeo and juliet for class. So i love that movie and i went and my friends. Hey let's take lsd. Oh hey that really be good so we took acid and sat in the movie. Now is sitting there watching the movie here. I have been watching the wall for that back and this girl was sitting in front of us and she turned around for a minute and turn back and i just looked at the girl. I was stoned watching romeo and juliet. And i see this girl and i started going. There she is. I've met her. Finally you know. And i looked at and and she looked at me again. Oh wow all. I got a meter and so it was weird. Because the next day i've friend of mine's. I went over to his house and the ad the latest beatles album and the beatles had just broken up and that was funny because i followed the career of the beatles maybe a little more aggressively than most people. The beatles really can't impact on my life. They helped me get into drugs and i followed their careers and when i watched them break up it was had a strange impact on me because i was just coming off a psychedelic trip and i sat there and thought wow the beatles broke up you know and i thought something's happening and i knew in my life. A change was coming soon. And so i really wanted to meet this girl so the next day monday at school i was walking across the campus and i saw all right. She was talking to a friend of mine. I'll just walk right up there. And i looked down and she had a black book with gold edges on it and i went. Oh no she's a jesus freak now if you want to be popular in school you don't become a jesus freak. Because i looked at her and thought what a waste man. 'cause i used to avoid christians. I didn't like to talk to them. We'd be on the beach and we'd see christians coming. We literally go out and hide in the water to get away from them. Because christians never went in the water because they didn't want to get their bibles wet. So here is this beautiful young girl and at that time i was very disappointed because she had wasted her life on. Jesus and so. I saw this girl and one day. I was sitting on the front lawn and a friend said. Hey there's a guy on campus many selling orange sunshine. That's lsd says. Why don't you go get them. I said all right you know for the weekend and so i went walking across the campus looking for this guy and i started hearing this g i looked over. And here's about fifty of these. Christians sitting love love love. Is that the way christians dance. You know then they all point up to this guy. What are they pointing at. So i just looked at him and i saw that girl. Her name was chris. I saw them. And i went there. She is man. And then i saw this guy talking. He was sitting down and he had long hair and a beard. And i said well he kind of looks like sort of a turned on gun. Maybe yes some good things to say. Maybe i'll listen to this guy. Sat down close enough to hear what they were saying but not too close so people think become one. 'cause i don't wanna do that. I sat down and listened. And i kept looking at chris and i'd like to get the north and i started listening to this guy. Any said something that just shook me off. He said jesus said you either for me or against me. So what does that mean that. These christian that i'm against god and i thought i'm not against god man. God got me out of a lot of jams. I believe in god. I've called upon him and he's helped me out but yet i'm not like one of these people and then began to realize that either. I was four chrysler against him. I was always considered to be neutral to myself in between. But i realized that to be undecided at that point was to be decided it really touched my heart and so the guy said now. There's some of you that want to give your lives christ today. I want you to stand up right now right in the front of a high school. I mean there's hundreds of kids sitting run eating sandwiches and you know to stand up there and go. Jesus i mean that just is crazy and people got up and started going up there and i looked out the ground and i started feeling this station inside something i'd never known before and that was the very early and sensation and it was something just drawing me and calling me now. I know what was the holy spirit and i looked at the ground. I said i'd like to do and i really would. I'd like to see if it's real. I've tried everything else. Why couldn't they try that. But i just can't do it and in about a moment later i was up there. I don't know what happened. But i got up there and they prayed a prayer. I don't even remember what i prayed. I don't even remember what happened. But i remember it was after we were done. Praying that girl running up to me and said praise. The lord brother that girl chris i like and threw her arms around me and hugged me know it thought. Hey maybe this christian stuff isn't too bad of an idea again. My motivation for going in and hearing the meeting time was totally wrong. I wanted to meet a girl but the holy spirit had different plans for me a lot of reasons. Why you even here tonight. I've heard people say let's go to the music's really find this or that and all sorts of weird reasons you know. Whatever gets you here. Once you hear you begin to hear the word in praise the lord because you may have one idea but god is another anyway so i prayed and i said i'm just gonna be loaded christian smoke grass take read. The bible sounds good was all set. So i went off and that weekend. We went off into the mountains and a friend of mine. Said hey greg you want drop acid and i always took it whenever drugs offered. I eat them. You know right there on the spot. And i said no mean i don't want it i don't know why just don't i'd just feel like getting loaded on grass and so i want to go off by myself. I'll see you guys later. And i walked off and i took up my pipe and started fill it with some grass and i was gonna smoke it and that feeling came to me again. The one i got the day before and the spirit of the lord spoke to me and said you don't need that anymore and i want what you don't need that anymore. And he spoke me again. It wasn't like a preacher jumped out of the bushes with the black bible. The lord god. I wouldn't listen to him but god spoke to me. The beautiful thing is god comes each one of us on our own level. You know you know what i'm saying. It's going well. He was a mixed up kid that was taking drugs. He needed religion. But i'm different. You're not different. You have an emptiness inside of you to the only difference is i tried to fill my maybe a little differently than you. Try to fill yours but you know the thing about the lord. No matter what our ages how old we are how young we are everything from eight year old child to a sixty five year old successful businessmen to a person that used to be a mr universe to a rock musician to a normal guy he comes to each one of us and says hey i love you and their own way in comes on our own level anyway. He started to speak to me. And i realized that was god speaking again. I said all right. God i'm gonna give you a chance now. You gotta remember it to me. Smoking grass was not just a pastime. It was my life. I had actually formed my life around. It was everything to me. There was nothing more important to me than my drugs. I love them. They were like the rich man had his money. I had my drug. That was my thing and for me to give up. Drugs was a pretty big deal. And i said all right god if you're real if you really exist and i've seen all these christians with their happy faces. Few real changed my life. I'm gonna give you a chance. And i took it ripped it up. Threw it down and said all right. So i went back to school. The christians came up to me and just welcoming in the fellowship. And all god bless you brother greg. I didn't like can come brother. Greg but i put up with it. Praise the lord all those words. I had a hard time. Praise the lord you know and so they said hey man you know you've got gotta really watch out. You're going to get tempted by the devil tempted by the devil. You believe in a devil all yelm. Satan's real you gotta watch out for him. He's really subtle. He's gonna come to you and give you all the things that you want just resistant. I thought all mind. And i went to my next class and this girl that was in the class a really attractive girl who i had been wanting to meet for a year but i was just totally afraid to talk to a really good-looking girl. Non-christian girl came up to me and said. Hey what's your name. I said greg. Hey i've never met you before you know i kinda like you. Oh wow she goes. Why don't you come up to the mountains with me for the weekend. And i went. It's it's the devil and it was. It was and i realize satan was tempting me and i said no and i was saying to myself. What are you doing. I said no no i believe in god now and then she just. Oh wow you know and got away from me the same way. I reacted to christians a few days before and so after classes over was thinking that over. And i walked up my old buddy gregg. You want to smoke a little aqua poco gold right now. I'm getting tempted to can. And that was really a temptation for me. Because i really wanted to do it. And i started to realize this whole thing and it was starting to make sense. And i was seeing the whole spiritual around. That's when i started to enjoy resisting temptation. I said you know all right. I figured something's going on you know someone's trying to rip me off. There must be something to this thunderstorms likely because things were happening. It wasn't something i had to make up. It was really existing. So i started reading the bible and feeling i don't like to compare god the drugs and i don't like it when people say jesus better than getting loan it because i don't think you can compare the creator of the universe to some stupid drug but when i would read his word in pray i had such a presence of peace never known before that i never got from anything and i just said. Wow this is great. What deal you know. And i became very excited about it aster greg. Laurie will have the second half of this message. From nineteen seventy seven in. Just a moment. We send pastor great studies out via the radio. Email satellite and even are harvested home online services. And it's encouraging when we hear that these messages are impacting lives. After greg i have been a true believer for six decades have been receiving daily devotions for a couple of months. Now they are my favorite devotional. And i look forward to getting them every day. In addition about one month ago. I started tune into your life sermons on harvest at home. You inspire me. And i get all your jokes. Thank you for your ministry and to bring people to relationship with god. I'm happy to partner with you. In your mission. I pray god continues to bless you exceedingly abundantly more than you could ask or think it's a privilege to bring these studies your way and we're thankful for our harvest partners. Who make them possible. Would you partner with us. You could make a donation at harvest dot org. And you'll find pasture greg's harvest at home services at the same web address harvest dot org. We'll today a unique message from pastor. Greg we're listening to a sermon preached when he was just twenty four years old and he spoke of his journey to christ. Let's continue with this presentation now. One of the most requested programs of the past year got back to school. And i had a hard time relating to the christian because they were the questions on this campus especially they love the lord and they didn't care if anyone knew it and they would walk down the middle of the campus like i said singing out loud at the top of their vocal chords. Praise the lord. You know and and i couldn't relate to that and i said well i'm going to kind of be a loner christian i'll believe in god but i won't hang out with them but then when they want him said come onto christian meeting. I said all right so they were at lunch time. We went into a room. i sat down. Everyone was looking to behave and that guy used to get loaded. He's a christian now. Wow you know there's just sitting there and this guy. He was kind of a strange brother. He was very fervent. He preached like old fashioned preacher. And jesus said you know he storming around the room. And i'd never seen anybody talk like this before. You know throwing their arms around and then god the fluctuations and. I didn't know why person would want to speak so weird you know. I still really don't know why people talk like that. And so i got out of the class and this guy comes up and he goes brother. Greg i wanna give you a bible and he gave me the bible with popsicle sticks glued together to make a cross on it. You know and i thought that was kinda knew. Wow thanks a lot you know. Can i pay for no. No you just take this and read it man. It's god's awareness that thank you of the room and thought oh man. I can't carry a bible around. Don't they make little ones. You can hide your pockets or something. And so i had this jacket with big pockets on it and i said well just stuff the bible down the pocket pull the flap over and no one will know so i stuck it down in there and i walked along and i hadn't seen my friends for like a week. My old lady buddies. You know so i said hey i'll go over and visit them so i walked over and looked around and open the bushes up stuff. The bible and hid in the bushes walked in pay man. You guys done this. Said hey greg man all know where and the lord you know with that feeling came back and i started feeling what was conviction to witness. I wasn't going to witness. Didn't wanna do that so i sat down greg. We haven't seen you for a week. Where have you been. I haven't been anywhere. And i just kept evading the subject. They kept cross examining me. Hey wanted to go smoke a joint. No no. i don't wanna do that. Where have you been man. What's happening to your different all. Nothing and no way. Was i going to witness. Suddenly the front door comes bursting open and it was my friend's mother and i don't know how she did it. She found my bible in the bush. She says who does this belong to. That's mine. I took it in every i in the room went to the book with a black cover and the gold edges and the ribbons. You know then. Many books have ribbons in them. In gold edges. You must remember and they said greg. What is that spinal greg. A bible and then this one guy goes all grey. Are you going to be a good christian boy. Now praise the lord. Thank you jesus. And i said you know what i'm going to slug you right in the mouth. I didn't know what it meant to be persecuted and to endure it for the lord. I just wanna hit that guy. I didn't like it here. These are the guys that told me no matter. Whatever happened to each one of us would stick together where your friends. And i said i believed in god and they were really giving me a hassle over and my friend. My best friend who i'd grown up with that i said. Hey man are you gonna shine me onto and he goes. Naw still be your finish. That that's neat go. Listen don't worry. I'm not gonna get into it. Same praise the lord and carry in the bible. I'm still gonna be like everyone else is just going to believe in god. Well you know what happens. The lord began work in my life and pretty soon i started saying praise the lord. I remember the first time i said it. It was hard getting those words out. Praise the lord. What an alien set of words to say when you've never known them and then suddenly to start saying praise god and thank you. Jesus in hollywood and things like that. I started saying it in my life started changing and again. I started really identifying with the christians. And i started realizing they really were my brothers and sisters now see back in the old drug culture. People called each other brother. Hey brother but they'd rip you off. A guy will look go. Hey sister and what he really wants us. I wanna go to bed with you. And that was the only reason and it was just a big facade. So i was really paranoid about calling people brother in love because everything the hippie movement offered. If didn't have everything. The hippie movement offered christians had they had love they had teeth they had brotherhood. They really loved each other. They really put down the walls that they now you know odin the guy mustard seed faith. He tells me he's a completed hippie. Now you know because everything. The hippie movement offered jesus christ gave all the facade limitation that satan put in it is fulfilled in him and much more besides that. And so i started getting into it and we had a little bible shut down in newport beach and i'd go down there and hang out there after school and one day. I saw my old buddy who. I told you a little bit earlier. I told him. I'd never become like the rest of him here. I had a cross around my neck. A bible under my arm and i started witnessing him and i was so excited. I'd been a christian for like two weeks now. I was telling him everything. I knew the lord this and the lord down and i was telling him in all of us sydney. Was this kind of head shop. That was right next to our bible shoplift. You know drug paraphernalia shop. The guy comes walking out and he'd been listening to a you a christian. I said ya i am. He goes well. Let me tell you something about your god. And apparently he'd studied the bible. A little bit knew how to make contradictions. That didn't really exist. But i didn't know better and he just totally put me down totally put down my faith totally. Put down everything. I believe in right in front of my friend that i was talking to. I went back up. Bible store and i was mad and i started to cry. I said you know. I just tried to share. Jesus with somebody in this guy came out and just totally ruined began. This show with me about being a christian in the kind of attitude that people have torch you and i thought well why are people so hostile. Y you know what is their trip. Go man don't you remember what you used to feel before you were and go. Yeah i used to feel the same way. And now i am one and i'm going back to people just like i used to be and i'm trying to tell them and they're doing the same thing i used to do. And you say to them. I used to think that we're the goal. No you did. You were never liked me but you were just like them. You know people think christians are odd. Specimens brought up religious homes. How many of you were involved in drugs before you are christians. Raise looking at god's change your life so many of you you know you look at you never know it. People think that we're all brought up in christian homes and taught the bible sense a little kids and and so many of us just had wretched lives men out there in the world. Anyway i began to change in my life began to change before my very eyes and the lord began to make himself real to me later. Someone told me about this place called calvary chapel. Not that there were only about one hundred christians and all california and when they took me to calvary chapel and i saw two thousand people crammed into a building. I freaked out. I couldn't believe it. And i was a little afraid because that's a lot of christians in one place you know and i was still adjusting to this whole thing and i was kinda glad we got there late because there were no seats available but suddenly someone left out of the second row and there was a seat. There's a steed over here at brother. Greg and i went walking in and sitting down and i was sitting there surrounded. Happy happy happy. There's just couldn't oh man you know. Suddenly this man comes out with a bald head. East starts talking about the lord and i really had a hard time with adults because after that point i was a real rebel with the adult world. Been through so many things. I just felt like. I didn't wanna even get involved with him and here. This guy was an adult sharing. The things of god. And i just liked him. I liked them right off the bat. That guy. I really take this guy you know. And it wasn't things he said he didn't relate to me like talk and heavy terms are dressed like a young kid and try to youthful. He just was himself but of course we know why he has that attraction. I know why anybody does. It's a holy spirit. And i thought you know how to get his head to shine so much the lord at gifted him and so the changes that happen to people that give their lives to christ began to happen to me and i became a new person. Jesus christ in my life began to change. People come tell me to go. We used psych yourself into that. I just cut that jive right now. I tried to psych myself into a lot of things. I tried to psych myself out of a lot of things. But the thing. When i came to jesus christ i had wasted myself so bad all i did was just throw myself down and say okay. God start working. I didn't even have the ability to psych myself anymore. And i know at the same with many of you. We haven't site ourself into this. We have a thought ourself into an emotional high because christianity is an emotional high there are times where emotionally i feel absolutely nothing as a christian. But that's not what christianity is about. It's about reality. People accused of escaping from reality when an essence we found reality because we come to grips. with attorney. we've come to grips with live and quit playing little games like little children trying to cover it over and pretend that emptiness is in there and we've approached it in embraced it and found the one that said i am the way that truth and the life. No men comes to the father but by me as the words that i heard that one day changed my life changers tonight the words in which jesus said either for me or against me. Are you for christ tonight. i don't mean to you. Just believe he exists and say your prayers once in a while. are you born again. Is your name written in the book of life. Are you going to heaven if your answer. Those questions to any of them has been no. I doubt if you know him or are you against him are you. Violently opposed to him. Do you want to reject him. Do you wanna turn your back on him. Do you want to be well. I want to be neutral. I don't want to be formed. But i don't wanna be against them. Well you're either one or the other and if you walk out if you're a tonight not for jesus christ you are just as much opposition to him as the atheist marching down the street corner with god is dead on a sign whole no. I'm not like that. Yes you are because he the your former against and he the you're walking with the lord. You're actually working in opposition against them tonight. That the words of him. Not the words of greg laurie. Not the words of calvary chapel. The words of jesus and that's what he said that famed jesus that has changed our lives is knocking on the door of your heart. He says behold i stand at the door not fitting men will hear my voice and open the door. I will come in well. I'm too old to accept. Christ now you want to younger. Accept christ no you want. you're not too old. You're not too young. You're ready if you want to open your hindsight yes. Jesus i see my need for you. I see that emptiness that i need feel. I want to know. Come into my life and changed me pastor greg. Laurie from a message recorded way. Back in nineteen seventy seven talking about the importance of coming to the lord to have our sins forgiven. And if you'd like to do that today. A pastor greg will help you before. Today's edition of a new beginning can clues and he also has a closing comment about what we've heard today so stay with us. The title of today's presentation. One of our most requested of the past year is pastor greg laurie then and now look for that title at harvest dot org. If you'd like an instant replay again just go to harvest dot. Org or for a cd copy call one eight hundred eight to one thirty three hundred again. That's one eight hundred eight two one three three zero zero. And then we're so. Pleased to mention that pastor. Greg new film. A rush of hope watched by over one point. Eight million people over day is now on. Dvd by popular demand. It's a powerful presentation of the gospel along with some outstanding music performances. Still in your faithfulness. That's for king and country. Mercy me and jeremy camp all featured in a rush of hope pastor greg. Oiseaux highlight moving moments of several recent films. Important films you know. that's right dave. I don't just mean showing film clips. I've written a narrative. Taking what i think are key moments from three films produced by the erwin brothers. John and the irwin and the films are woodland. I can only imagine. And i still believe that. Present the gospel in a compelling artistic and powerful way and there's some other resources included with this russia hope. Dvd including a booklet. That i wrote called. 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We can take your call anytime around the clock and again dial one eight hundred eighty two one. Three three zero zero or go online to harvest dot org well. Greg spoke today about having a relationship with the lord. That's right someone can enter into that kind of relationship with god right now. can't take. Yeah they really can. That's the amazing thing. I think people are surprised that it doesn't take years to become a christian. It doesn't take months. Hit doesn't take weeks. It doesn't take days it doesn't even take hours. You can believe on the spot. And i would like to lead you in a prayer where you can ask for his forgiveness approach. You can receive. Jesus christ into your life as your savior and lord so if you want to come into your life if you want him to forgive you of your sin if you want a second chance in life if you wanna go to heaven when you die. Stop what you're doing impre after me. These words lord. Jesus i know. I am a center and i'm sorry for my sin and i turn from it now and i choose to follow you from this moment forward as savior and lord as god in friend. Thank you for loving me and calling me forgiving me in jesus name. I pray amen. Amen listen if you have just prayed. Those words with pastor greg and meant them sincerely. The bible assures us that your sins have been forgiven. We're told in first. John one nine. The lord is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanses from all unrighteousness and we want to send some resource materials to you. That will help you in your new relationship with god we call it our new believers growth packet. And we'll send it without charge if you prayed for the first time today with pastor. Greg just ask for it when you write a new beginning fox. Four thousand riverside california nine to five one four or call one eight hundred eighty to one thirty three hundred. We're here to take your call anytime. Twenty four hours a day seven days a week. 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Your church closing again should really bother you.

Reformgelical

59:40 min | 1 year ago

Your church closing again should really bother you.

"Yeah the third wheel is really not a third wheel on podcast. It's got a nice avenue that a third person to bounce around. That man! I was just talking with a pastor that I knew from Calvary Chapel. He was actually one of the forty pastors when I was going to cover Costa Mesa. Trying to get him to come on here actually because it's interesting. That my past world I don't think they really think about things. The way that the reform folk don't have that methodology. It's simple each viable. And I wanted to talk to him. About what do you about this? The plays that are being run with the krona virus and things like that because I got into discussion with him on facebook a little bit. and. I said it's not about the virus and he said maybe. And I was like Oh. You gotta totally come on the show. And then Gavin newsom lay down the hammer hoof. Yeah, we'll talk about that and the second, but I gotta say welcome to Reform Jellicoe worthy reformed and evangelical meet. I am Matt. Williams co hosted by the reasonable rational Latino. That's true I am. Both things are very much so how you doing. I'm doing great. How are you? Fantastic? Videos have been fairly really appreciate those. Thank you well. Hey I appreciate it. I've been getting a little aggressive, but you know I. Think I think the time warrants it to be honest. Things have gotten crazy I. I can't tell you how many emails I get from people that are like. I don't know what happened like my church went woke overnight. What do I do and it's just like they don't have much for you besides. Pray your butt off and you know. Find a church that that won't not. I don't know. Yeah. It's two battles that we're fighting right now and trying to find a church. It's the woke crowd, and then it's hourly crowd. That's right. The crowd detaches, and those are two very serious. Things yeah, and and the thing is like they don't lineup completely evenly like yeah. Every woke churches. They're obviously not going to be I. Mean That's the given obviously, but there are a lot of churches that are otherwise good that are just. Just not meeting. What do you do I don't know? Yeah. We'll talk about that more in a second from a personal perspective but I i. just wanted to say thank you for everyone who supports is on Petri on Petri on dot com slash reform juggle and the big like Hook for you to come support US decides. Just you know because you like us. Was that you could watch us live, but the last couple of weeks the new format the new platform. Platform we notice that we were not getting the same amount of people attending, and so the last two weeks kind of just blasted it to our social media sites, so it's a big. Thank you for those supporting but I welcome to all those who maybe don't usually listen to live. You can chat wherever you're listening on facebook. Youtube twitter and we will see your questions, so feel free to jump in on the conversation and we might. Stop, talking about an answer, your questions who knows? Yeah I love to do that, we we. I don't know if we ever like I. Don't know if we always sit every question, but we definitely answered a bunch. Yeah, it's definitely a great part of the show that we love. Sometimes you guys just go at it so much and your conversations. We just can't keep up while we're talking till very hard skill. But you're more than welcome, Sean. Hello, how you doing. Thanks for in high. Watch on Youtube. We can see that that's pretty cool. Yeah, there are like they're like livestream. Is that you know they have those super chat? Things like they do a great job just keeping up some I. Don't know if I could do that. Yeah, it's like reading a book and talking on the phone at the same time. Right right, you're like. And at the same time, keeping an eye on the chat, it makes no sense to me, but good for you. Good for them good for them. So I have some good news for you or some news. At least that's GonNa make you happy. That's good man. My family and I are going to go to our crm. CRC Presbyterian Reformed Church next Sunday. That sounds pretty federal vision to me, but tell me about it. Yeah! I got my federal vision suit. Vision Tinfoil hat and I'm GONNA take it. I hope they know what I'm talking about can be really weird I first introduction. But. My family since we moved to Florida, Jorgo been going to a church that has been reformed tendencies. They were part of. Is called Something Covenant Grace. It was some kind of denomination or something like that, but then they became nondenominational. Shortly before we came. And they they were seemed to be pretty solid. Really liked what they were saying. no social justice stuff like we were talking about in the intro. But. They shut down even without requirements. No Casio. I'm not going to baptize those babies. Yes, and we also get sidetracked by common student just to let you know that. They haven't said anything social justice, and so when the coronavirus thing came, they closed down like a lot of churches did even though our State Ryan date it right, understandable. Okay, and they started to reopen about a month and a half ago and the reason we weren't going when it reopened was because my baby girl was just born. We usually wait two months right so it's been. been around that time, and we go to come back and they closed down again from this new wave quote, unquote cases yeah, and I have to say like even though that they're closed indefinitely. Even if they closed for a week, it still would almost make me want to go to a new church just because it feels like they're not fighting the same battles. That right I'm seeing. Is that. What do you think rug? It's it's. It's so hard to know what to say to you about this or to anybody because. Because! On the one hand. You can kind of understand. Someone who's believing the narrative because the narrative is literally everywhere, it's like put. It's being pushed everywhere. It's your your grocery store. It's Walmart. It's every celebrity ever every newspaper. It's everyone so it's like. You know I feel like I'm not like that. I'm not like that in tune with the news so like if I know that there are some discrepancies in what's going on here I feel like most people should know that by now, but on the other hand you want to have a lot of grace, because like well, you know this is this is this Zeitgeist is what everyone sane. But at the end of the day like you know at a hate to take it away from your situation, but I'm going to for a second because I think this is helpful. Andy Stanley's like well. We're not going to have church until twenty. Two Twenty, twenty, one I saw that and it's like. It's okay. Okay fine so. What is the logic between Andy Stanley which everyone at right now, saying as crazy. And pastors that are close right now, like where's the logical wine? There is none there is no logical line the only difference is that Andy Stanley's gone out in front of it 'cause because any church that's closed at this point could be closed until twenty would forever. For All for all we know right. Yeah, why not I mean if the virus never leaves and there's always the risk like what is the justification to reopen and bright, and what about the new viruses? And what about you know what I mean, so? It's just it's just. So so, why are honestly to me? What I've been telling people's. I. Don't blame you for looking for a new church because there is no reason to expect that this church will ever reopen ever. Yeah and I've been thinking about it even more than just like I want a place to worship it's. Like if my leadership and that I'm supposed to submit to, and gladly do I don't have a problem with submitting to leadership. But, if you're not going to do the due diligence to actually do the research and actually take a deep dive. This serious. It's one thing to just agree like Oh. Yeah, the corona virus is out there. It's a big deal like okay, but if you're going to shutdown church, you're gonNA take away worship. You're not going to assemble together. You better have all your ducks in a row. You have better done all of your due diligence, and just knowing that they haven't and knowing that you're making these decisions out of very least a superficial study of it is a. how am I going to trust you in any battles going forward? How am I going to trust you to lead me and my family going forward so just even that thought is making me think it's time to move on Yeah. It's it's so true at anything is like. The other thing about it is that there's a difference between submission and letting someone make your decisions before God for you, so it's like so like they've made it impossible for someone who's like look i. see the statistics I. don't agree or even or even people that say I do agree. This is the bubonic plague, but God commands me to worship like you're making their choice for them. You know what I mean. It's like they don't even have an option right now if unless they find another. Another church, so like the only option. Really that's that's a middle ground option is to stay open, and to be open-handed about whether 'cause because in a normal situation. If you had a church member if you're a good church. If you had a church member that didn't show up for a year, you probably kick him out of the church in a normal situation, but in this situation you can at least understand that, so the only middle ground here is to stay open and not require attendance. Yeah that's IT and if you're not willing to do that, you're not willing to serve your entire congregation. It's really just that simple, and I think again. That's respecting the spheres of authority to yet you're respecting the headship of the families right, and not undermining them which today we need more than ever to be affirming the head of the household, and that whole sphere of authority, because it's under attack in pretty much been decimated. That's right, and this is another good reason to have a a do a plurality plurality of elders, because if you have an elderly elder that you know. Know? Is that risk? He's got a demean. Immunodeficiency ordered disorder. Okay, Great. Maybe he shouldn't be at the church, but you've got other elders that are young and strong, and if they get the coronavirus, it's no big deal. They can go to the judge and they can handle things at at the time, so like there's there's things that can be done so to me. Shutting down is is just not acceptable at this point at all like there are other things that can be done before you just shut down, it just isn't acceptable anymore I i. just don't get it. Definitely indefinitely, especially, considering all the data. That's not only was the data. Bizarre from the beginning and incomplete, but now there's all this data of like fake. Cases that you know like like it's just so confirmed that there's been so many cases so many fake positives and even the real positive. We don't even really know if they are positive. Because the test is only a certain percentage, accurate or whatever it is, that's awesome studies that were saying. It's like almost a coin flip whether if you test positive if you really have it or not. It's like what's going on here I know. There's an sturge, but like all the data is inaccurate. And the thing is just from data perspective, and we're not going to get into this too much. Because data, super boring right, but even if the data was hundred percent accurate, it doesn't matter it. It doesn't matter and it's getting better. The more cases in the less deaths mean the death rate is shrinking more and more. Isn't that the whole point, Matt Matt I'll never I'll never forget this from the whole life, because I have a vision of you and me speaking here and saying look. But the death rate, we don't know what it is, and by the end of this, it's GonNa. Look very similar to the flu, perhaps even less than the flu and the best part is, it doesn't kill the kids, so that's great, because I like to protect my kids. You know what I mean. That's fantastic, but the flu kills the kids, so it's like the flu is way worse way worse than this. I remember saying this months ago. And people you're crazy. You're just not your sides denier, and now that it's coming out that you know. The death rates are pretty low, very low, very comparable and people are like still closed down so I guess I remember I made a stupid video I was being a moron I thought I thought I was being an idiot I. had my stupid glasses on i. I had that stupid mask on and I was like Whoa. We should have church season every flu season we shut down church for four wants, and then we'll come back. It'll be a season just like in baseball. You know what I mean. I'll never forget this affinity that I spouted out, but now could you deny that that what we all have to do now? Because this thing is not as bad as we thought it was, and we're still shut down. So how can we ever reopen during flu season again unless we hate our neighbor unless we're GONNA disregard the Ten Commandments, so if we're going to disregard the ten commandments and then you know when it's not the for the corona when it comes to the flu, then we're just all bunch of Heathens. We have no idea what we're. Talking about. Opening the door for the victory of the next battle, and although the woke in the woke battles and social justice woke battles, and this is different. They're not really the same. The plays and the strategies are the same so similar. Yeah, and just like I R. I saw an article yesterday. Where said the statues are not enough? Oh, it was about Ashville reparations bill passed in. Asheville North Carolina. They voted seven zero for reparations to act people. Yeah, and the reasoning was that tearing down statues wasn't enough. We needed to do more and I just think that is such a giveaway line for the play. Choose, where everything was symbolic. It's you know it's the middle finger to the black community. They all need to come down and it was the biggest thing in the world, and if you didn't support it, you are a racist and if you didn't support it, you're part of the problem, and then it's like. Oh, now that we got that, we won that victory. That's not enough now it's we need reparations in the whole thing again just like with masks Damascus. Damascus the whole thing you're eating your grandma. You don't wear it, will you? Do you're hating? You're not being loving or not loving your neighbor, and then it's church, and then it's not singing. So what's next? It could be the flu. Next are all the same logic, right? Why wouldn't it be? Why wouldn't it be the fluids extra scary? The FLU SPREADS EASIER THAN CORONA virus. It kills children, which is way scarier than corona, virus and death rates are comparable. The. You know what I mean like the this is. This is the reality, so of course, that's the next play. Why wouldn't it be? The the whole point? Is these people want you all like like you don't understand. These people are sick twisted. They want you all that you start supporting universal basic income, right? You don't need me like they want you not to have job. They want you not to have to to to have restaurants to go to and stuff like that. They don't want that because they don't have it and I want anyone to have. These people have degrees in like FEM studies. They don't make any money. They want you to be just as miserable's they are. That's what they want. The sick people are absolutely sick and we're just going well. You love your neighbor. Like a bunch of morons like honestly, it's just. It's just so sad. Honestly I today. I went out to the grocery store. Right before dinner had to pick up a couple items and I've been bragging about my my fellow New Hampshire brethren about how most people don't wear masks Oh, shocked today I saw. Everyone had a mask except for me. In this one girl, we looked at each other we were. Know what I mean. You. Know what I mean. Yeah, that's. Me and this one girl, we were not wearing masks house, looking around like. WHAT IS GONNA? What has happened I thought we were lift rear. Dice state. What is going on here? Guy Bring. A I've seen the separate is I. Bring a mask everywhere i. go because you know, look if I'm in somebody's store. And they insist that were masks, and I want to buy something from them. That's their property. They can whoever they want. You know what I mean so go walk into the store no mask and if they say hey, you need to wear masks near I. Put it on if I need the store. You know what I mean, but but it's like. I, just don't get it I. Just don't get it after everything we've been through after everything we've seen after everything we've heard and found out was Eliah. They you know that one that one medicine doesn't work and turns out it's it really does work everything that they told. US ally and we're and now we're submitting more than ever. I haven't looked at I. Haven't looked at like like the fear porn in a long time like I haven't looked at a map. I haven't looked at any of the curves. the you know the disinfection curve I. IT looked drudge report in a long time. I looked the other day just like a week ago or something. I was shocked. People are still talking about Oh yeah! The big death wave is still coming that for four months. For All the big death wave is it's GonNa? Come trust distrust us. And it's like my people are saying this is going to end November third when the election's over. No, it's not. No No, it's definitely not going to end then. No, it's not. That's what your hope is. I finally when trump doesn't get elected that it's going to end. No, it is not. They know that this works. They know that this gives them more power, and it will not end then definitely. Yeah! They've been indyk victorious this whole time now. Right. Like? How have they lost? Why would you stop if you like I'm so tired of winning trump line? You'RE GONNA win so much. You'RE GONNA get tired of winning. Back in the day. Trump actually doing it and so if Biden wins. The government is just going to full-scale. Grab even more. It's GonNa. Be Like the supermarket sweeps back. When you had like a minute to grab anything you wanted in the aisle. They're just GONNA be grabbing. Our Rights left and right or trump wins. He's going to be impeached over crowbars. It's not going to stop. I'll take that one. Just dump it into your. Id Three Turkeys. Yeah, no, why would they stop? There's no reason to because there's a democrat. They're going to want to stop another not. I don't care about that stuff. They don't care because they know that they haven't lost a single thing. If anything people are getting more scared as the danger subsides like I'll tell you like met I. Don't think that I'm not ashamed of this like in the beginning there was a lot of unknowns, and I wasn't like I was never paralyzed with fear, but I was nervous at go to the store and stuff like that I was washing my hands a little more you know. I was I was being a little more careful because there was everything was unknown. It was new. You don't and then the data start rolling in I'm like yeah. This is maybe like a week later does and then and then everything that's come out since has told us that there is no reason to worry. This is this is. It's less worry every day. Every piece of data that comes out you see from Sweden from everywhere. Every piece of data that comes out tells us. Yes, totally find for kids who go back to school. Everything's going to be fine. And Somehow. People are more wracked with your now than they've ever been. So why would they stop? They got you man. It's so demonic. The narratives that are just being portrayed and advocated for and the what the results are for the public. It's so sad so some I was looking at actually the data between Sweden and New York and it's funny. You remember back in the day like in the beginning when they were talking about the two week. Shut down. We're only GONNA shut down for two weeks fifteen days to slow the curve, slow sweaty curve because the healthcare industry would be overwhelmed, and they gave us two bar charts and remember I. Remember this because I'm a data nerd, I'm a data guy. The first curve was if we do nothing receiving, get on camera, and it was a very steep high bell curve, and then with the two weeks shutdown was a longer like kind of a hill curve yet I remember, and so we had to shut down or the big steep curve was going to happen. Well, it turns out when you compare the and curve in New York versus the curve in Sweden where New York did everything they went to the extreme. They shut down everyone. They put the COVID patients in the retirement homes. They did everything the status you do. And they ended up having exactly what they were trying to avoid. Then you go over and look at Sweden's curve. They did the opposite of what everyone was trying to get them to do. They didn't shut down. They left it to individuals to do what they thought was best in social social distancing, and it was the almost exactly the same curve that they thought was going to be achieved from two weeks. And so when you see this data coming out now that the status I can't achieve what they're trying to. And when we actually respect people's rights like Sweden did it is doing what they hoped for. How can you take anything seriously anymore? Honestly data is just not there and I'm not the Kinda. Guy Who says you know that likes to trot out scientists and to prove my point. 'cause scientists are a bunch of liars. Most of the time, but but I saw I saw a a meme, or or tweet the other day that just it blew my mind because it just put it so well. It's like you either believe this is or you don't like if you're GONNA if you're gonNA throw the science in my face all day because in end to get me to do what you want to do, the minute that the science doesn't agree with you. You still have to believe it either believe it or you don't believe it otherwise. You're just an idiot. And that's what's going on right now. All the scientists saying yeah, you know, we should go back to school was I don't want you to go back to school ever. But what? I'm saying is like all sides of saying. You know the students to go back to school and we're still here. No, it's way too dangerous way too dangerous. So, what's the deal here? It's all ideologies, the same thing with the social justice words. It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter what Bible verse you show them. It doesn't matter anything. It's just it's. It's the narrative, and that's it they they've been told what to believe. They're going to believe it. Everything else be damned everything else be damned. That's why you can tell you could say Bible verse to an Egalitarian or a sexual or or social justice, where you can tell the Bible verse that literally directly contradicts just old. You and it has no effect on them. They don't care yeah. That's frustrating. Eighty. We're getting called out here. Oh! Berry wants to know what our solutions are. We're light on solutions right now, so let's just go down the list. What is that look? What I! Don't know Raleigh all the things we talked about so. Where's the difference with forty? Yeah, I think so I'd. Comment from seven fifty zero. Ten minutes ago. We've been on this ran for ten minutes. Hey, hey, hey, berry solutions are what they've always been, and we talk about this all the time, and that was about to say it's sphere, sovereignty, and so God gives the the family, the individual, the church, and the state, different areas of authority, and so if the government doesn't have the authority to do something from the scripture, it doesn't have it at all, and that means you. The Church has it or Or the family, and so here's the solution. Everyone mind your own business, and if I want to wear a mask, oh, where a freaking mask, and if I don't want to wear a mask, I won't wear a mask. It's just that simple. That's the that's. That's the solution. It's very very simple. Respect the sphere authority, because if the if if if you start giving the government powers to do all kinds of things like canceling worship services like saying you can't sing at church like all this kind of stuff the minute you do that, the whole applecart is upset and they will never ever ever be satisfied with little in you know. You know. Things that you give them. They'll take it all. They'll do the newsome. They'll pull the newsome. It's like the minute you say who can use them. We won't meet for two weeks to slow the spread the next second. He's like indefinitely. And once go back. You definitely can't do communion and also wants to go back. You definitely can't sing. It's way too dangerous because he got to love your neighbor as yourself. Instead the solution is mind your own damn business. newsom mind your own business because this is not your business. That's the solution, so it's it's. It's not the kind of solution that status would like to hear because a state of solution is will, what does the state do? The state doesn't do anything. That's the solution they stay out of it. And it frustrates me to no end where it's like what's the solution it because you know the answer they want is what should the government do? And, that's not that's. That's thinking the wrong way. There is no actual solution it's. It's it's. It's just respecting what God tells you to take responsibility for your own look. When my kids were sick during regular time before corona. Virus made everyone all insane. When my kids were sick during the flu season, we didn't go to church because we're responsible adults and we respect sphere sovereignty, and we're not idiots so okay. My kids are sick I don't WanNa make people at Church sick so I. don't go to Church by the way if my kids are sick and I'm not sick, I go to church and my kids don't. This is not complicated. It's like we all knew what to do before corona virus when people were sick. If you're sick, you stay home. If you're not sick. You go about Your Business. You don't need the government to tell you what to do. You don't need your pastor to tell you what to do. My pastor never ever once told me. Here's the thing Adam if your kids are sick, you're not allowed to come to church. It, never had to be said why, because he respects your spirit to. He knows that I can manage my own family, and if I if he thought, I couldn't manage. My own family would've had talk a long time ago and I'm sorry. I'm getting heated actually. I'm not sorry. I'm getting heated because this is so simple and we're acting like we don't know how to do this and yet six months ago. Everyone knew how to do this everyone. We didn't need the government to tell us you know it's. It's flu season. Season and you know so if you have if you have symptoms of flu cold like flu like symptoms. That's what they always called. It flu like symptoms. If you have flu like symptoms, then because you're an adult, and we recognize that you are an adult, and you have your own sovereignty, then take responsibility for yourself and your family like an adult when I go to church I wasn't worried about people coming in having a bowl. You know why, because if somebody had a bola symptoms, they probably wouldn't come to church. I, don't I don't know I mean. Those. Those kinds of those kinds of well. What's the solution? It's just like. I'm sorry, but you just don't get it right. The solution is to mind Your Business Your Business and I. Don't mean that in like A. Spicy way, but like literally. That's what everyone should do. Mind Your Business if you're a pastor. Mind your pastoring business if you're if you're a family man, mind your family. If YOU'RE A civil governing authority mine, what God gave for you to do what he gave for you to do is to punish evildoers and to promote what is good. That's it. End of Rent Amen and it's just is weird as any one of us in a church as the head of our families, telling the church what to do and having the Church listen to us. It's like the pastor isn't going to come into our sphere and tell us how to do things, and it's mind your own business, and it you know, let the spheres do. What is their responsibility according to scripture and we've? We've been very consistent on this. From the beginning. We were all saying we should shut down the economy because that's not their business. The government has no right to tell a business to tell a family what they can buy and sell, and what they can do with their property or what they should do from a health perspective. As long as it's not quarantine the sick, we would said hey, there is biblical press. But you have no authority to quarantine healthy people because God didn't give you that authority and it solutions are really simple and easy to us, because we read our bibles, and we've looked to the Bible's our foundation. It gets complicated when we're going through the whims of what should the government do? And how should they do it? It's it's like this weird. Should they be socialist or fascist? Problems be solved. Retina solutions and the thing is like this like that. That's that's not an acceptable answer to a lot of people, but you gotta realize that some things have no solutions like ultimately like like okay, so we might not be able to a radical corona virus from the earth. Okay. That's a fact of life I mean we haven't. We've dealt with flu for decades way more than decades, but you know I've only been alive for a few decades. We've dealt with it for a few decades. We haven't been able to eradicate it, and somehow life goes on somehow. We knew that we you know we. We didn't have the right to to to force our our friend to wear a a stupid piece of cloth over their face. You know what I mean like somehow we remembered that before, but now all of a sudden. It's like it's a mystery. Well, what do we do and the only reason? It's a mystery. The solutions are mystery to anybody is. Is Because you've been told that. The solutions are mystery even toll that it's super complicated and like Welwyn, but I don't know. Maybe we can go back to work unless it's the vaccine I I don't know. Maybe it can't go to church until there's a vaccine like like the fact that the that's even being talked about is completely insane to me. That's insane you. Why don't you mind your own business and I'll go to church if I decide that it's time to go to church about that. And and that's the whole point, so it's like you know there might not be a solution that ends up with the right like like the the right answer, doesn't it's like a video game where you either winner you lose like? We might have to just deal with this. Wherever. Forever you mean yeah I was thinking about where was it David had the option between three different judgments by God is that David and then he picked the one where God was actually the one implementing it, but there wasn't like a solution to get rid of it right still had to endure, and there's things in our lives that we're just going to have to endure and tolerate, but it's a pro, but we also at the same time, even though we might not have a solution to get rid of it. There's still a proper way to respond to God and. Men and and and and ironically like that's what God says he'll bless so God will bless when you obey him. The solution is to obey God and that's what sphere sovereignty is all about. It's not like a political ideology, although it ends up being that it comes from it comes from the Bible like just. Don't look if you're a governor. Don't do God, says you do and do what God says you should do if your family has same thing you know so so so. God promises in his in his in. In his book in the book, it says you do these things and things will go well with you. You know I won't like like. He lists a bunch of plagues and pestilence and stuff like that when you disobey him, but he also lists a whole bunch of blessings. That'll happen to you when you obey him. That's the solution. That's it all you gotTa do is is our business before God mine are authority that God gave us and stop worrying about everybody else like I have you seen these videos Matt where? Where someone will, will reward you wearing a mask. We're. It, and the like fit film and put online. Videos are so pathetic. Is there so sad and so pathetic? But like that's that's exa-. That's the opposite of what I'm advocating for what I'm advocating. Hordes mind your own business. That's an as a solution, and it's more than just a pride thing to and I just WanNa say Berry, said, thanks for engaging love the passion, no know we called him out on his pushback, and he's a appreciates it, so thanks for listening appreciate it actually question I and it's not personal. I just I hear that a lot and it's just like we'll. 'cause I know you're looking for, but it's. It's not the right. It's not in my opinion. It's not the right question. You know what I mean. Yeah, and the importance to of mind your own business and the respecting of the spheres. Is that it? It's not just us saying you know like. Leave US alone, but there's actual consequences to not doing it where peace. `Star acting in ways they shouldn't. They start getting rid of responsibility. You think of like the Stanford prison experiment where they had the college kids, some were prisoners somewhere prison guards, and they took on those roles without even being told they ended up acting just like prisoners, or just like prison guards so to in business they teach us like if you don't give your direct reports for employees autonomy. Autonomy and the ability to make the right decisions. Well, then they're always gonNA, look you to make decisions for them, and you're always going to have to micromanage them right road to if the state is always supplying your every need and making your health decisions making your health decision, making your food choices, and all of these things will then your muscles of independence and responsibility in headship. We're GONNA. GonNa Shrink and shrink and shrink, which does damage. This is a very real problem, and there's really very real consequences of the spheres, not staying in their proper place. Will that we have. We have an example directly related to Kuroda that that is is a good lesson for this, because basically everyone at this point and I'm not listen. I'm not if you're this. Is You understand this was everyone? Everyone, we're all basically looking to the government to tell us how dangerous wants to do and how to respond to it, and there were I don't know hundreds, or maybe even thousands of souls in New York that were looking for doing that exact thing, and what the governor said was another. Go to go to go to the nursing home. That's the solution. That's what you do with science. And they lost their lives because of that. They lost their lives because of that and so. These, it's not like hypothetical, right? The there's real world consequences here when you're constantly looking to the government trusting the government to tell you what's what they're going to make mistakes because they're humans right, and who knows what other agendas they have that play I don't know, but the point is like. Like they're they're really not responsible for those kinds of decisions for you. And they're not good at it. They're not good at it right with. There's like this fallacy that we have and I don't know where it came from. It should never have been American. Perception that the government is supreme that they have all the brightest minds that they have all the answers and they don't. Even if they did th th, this is the other thing, because even if they did have the brightest minds, they still would be terrible at it. Because everyone's situation is different. Everyone's purse everyone. So this is the example I was using back in the beginning of Varsovie thinking to myself. Okay, someone was trying to Zing me. There were like what did you say? It really on a bull virus. Would you say the same thing and I'm saying? Yeah, I would and here's why. Because if I'm if I'm in my own life I have stores of food in my house. I could probably survive for a few months. Right just without leaving my house and all that so I'd be fine, and if we had a bulla outside I probably wouldn't go outside too much, because it's too dangerous and I'm not psychotic. I don't want to die. I don't my kids to die, so I'd take reasonable precautions. I wouldn't go to the stores because I have food. Myself and I'd be fine. But. That's very different from saying because I'm in that situation, the government should ban going outside. Because here's the thing, there are people that aren't like me and weren't prepared for it, and so they might have to risk it because it becomes the difference between okay, my family's going to starve if I don't risk going outside and contracting a bowl up because I got to get to the store and get some food, so my family might star so all of a sudden. We make our own decision. We were like. Risky but I need food. And so when the government decides, it's too dangerous to go outside. And, so you. You are banned from going outside like many governments did. They're they're they're they're. It's not that they're stupid. It's it's impossible for them to know what's right for you. It's impossible, no matter how smart they are, they can't know it, and so it just so happens that they're also not smart. But even if it were matter because they have to, they would have to know godlike information information about everyone situation at all times, and it's not possible for anyone except for God. And so that's why you and me say this is why you obey. God because he actually does know everything. Knows about everyone's situation. And he commanded certain things right, and it's interesting, too. That's a really good point. I was thinking about is like no matter what you do at the presidential level or congressional level federal level, even state level to some extent, no matter what decree you say, if everyone followed it, some some people will be harmed by some people will be hurt by it and others. Not that's right. But when you think about going decrees, that is not the case. That, if we as a people would just obey him, it would work out well for everybody. Yeah. Definitely that that that's that's a very interesting way to put it, and and you're right I. mean when we start making up our own laws. You know it's it's very difficult and I would say impossible to make up your own law without referencing scripture. That's going to actually be good for everyone Yeah absolutely so I thought I saw this story. It was my very own Florida speaking of the incompetent incompetence of the government. That there are labs reporting one hundred percent positive rates for the corona virus, and there was another one with the report showed Orlando Health, which is when the hospital's down here had a ninety eight percent, positive rate and the local news. Thankfully, the local news isn't as crazy as the national news. I don't know why, but they actually still do some reporting. They questioned that and it turns out. The positive rates were nine point four percent. So that is like that is the competency of government where we can't even get testing, right. We talked about it. What's amazing? What's amazing about that is that it's not? It's not a number like seventy seventy six percent thirty three percent. It's ninety eight. Point something so over ninety eight percent positive rape. Nobody in the government was like. That has a sound right. Like maybe we should before we publish this. Maybe we should. Maybe you should check. Yes, and no bills are the minds making decisions for everybody, the minds making decisions right. It it beggars belief that nobody was thinking not it can't be. And and it goes back to the point that you were just saying to is like the consequences. You can't really know everyone situation. And that's where why like don't need hypotheticals about this. That's why suicide rates are skyrocketing. That's right. That's why we have such high unemployment is right because we're listening to. The Government Supersedes Authority, and over extended itself doing things that should not. While if we just listen to biblical. Authority and we just listened to the biblical principles on hand how to handle these things. We know what we would get. We actually see it. In Japan. They had eight hundred and fifty deaths, and they just ended their national crisis national emergency over it eight hundred and fifty deaths Sweden. has a positive GDP growth for the first quarter positive GDP growth, and see even though that even now like death rates are higher in some they neighbors. Neighboring countries. The overall destruction is so minimal when you take into effect, everything else the second and third effects. And if we would just learn the lesson I mean this is a great opportunity for us to sit back and examine ourselves and think through how we need to handle these things in the future because we have the contrast, we have people listening to the biblical way of doing things and the ones who didn't even if they didn't know, they were doing the biblical approach. And we have the perfect examples were seen how incompetent our government is! We see the rights. They're taking away and we need more than just podcasters talking about this. We need every single pastor preaching. We need every pastor asking these questions talking about congregation getting the Church educated so that we have a response because it's been lackluster at best. I think yeah I. Your present right and I I just I just. It just really boggles the mind. At this point like we were started the conversation where it's like at this point. You know knowing everything we know seen seen all the stories from around the world, and all the discrepancies in the data, and all the lies that we've heard at this point to still have pastors not doing that. And instead well, maybe they are doing it on zoom. But probably not if they're on zoom, you know what I mean Hong. And I. Honestly like one reason that I you know will walk into a store without a mask at I'll be honest. It's like. I want to be the guy that's not. Projecting the same fear as everybody else I want I want people to understand that it is okay to just walk into the store. And not be scared for your life. Right did not not be not be doing what everyone else is doing. You don't even look if this is a Bulla or this was something else you know. I wear a mask I'm not a moron. You know what I? I'm not stupid I. DON'T WANNA die. But it's not that. I live in freaky. New, Hampshire, where which you know, barely ever had. I don't even know how many. Infections that we had in our peak, but it wasn't a lot. That curve that said this is. This is the day that you're going to have no more ICU beds that came and went and we didn't even get the half that. You don't even. Know, of course it did of course. And so like I knowing that I want people to know that like it's okay to look at that emperor and say you don't have any clothes on. It's just so. It's so insane at this point, so yeah, that's part of it. That's part of its you. People will call it a rebellious streak. No, I think I think it encourages people to see. Oh, yeah, don't have to be that scared of this plus there's a lot of camaraderie when you see someone else that Matthew really is. It's like when you're driving a motorcycle. You see someone else's motorcycle. You always wave. On you always wave absolutely or like boats, sir, boaters and stuff. And it's and it's not like we're even denying science sciences. Even on our side, it turns out that it's up to ninety nine percent ineffective to wear cloth masks, but somehow that's appropriate, but. I was listening to one doctor I. Forgot where I heard this from the equivalent of wearing a cloth masks to keep a virus like out from spreading to you or spreading to someone else is like trying to trap mosquitoes with chain link fence. That's the difference in size between a virus and the threads in cloth masks. More, litigious person might be able to make some money because they've heard all this class Mass GonNa save you and and really doesn't catch coronavirus Mike like soul, neither I know seriously, and then also with the hydrochloric win. We talked about earlier. The death rate actually spiked from Dr Stopping to prescribe it because they were listening to the narratives. Turns out OH. You know. Trump was actually getting that from medical science. And was helping people, and so when they went back to it. The death rates went down again. There's some lawsuits for you absolutely. I'll tell you what that hydroxy cut thing so I heard. Trump say trump's is a lot of things so I. Never I never take what he says for face value bit of. When I saw the response about it. I knew that was insane. I was like Oh. That drug probably works that drug probably works because there's no reason for these idiot governors to to ban it. You know what I mean. They just th. They're like that makes no sense so that drug probably does work and sure enough. It does an and to this day. People are going to deny that drug works to this day though the night and I just don't understand why, at and even if and even if even if Even if it turns out that the drug doesn't work as well as trump was saying or something like that. All I needed to know was that these people were against at this point. You know what I mean like. That's all I really need to know, but the point is. Hydroxy cut aside. Is that. Is that Christians ought to be willing to be matter of fact about a lot of this stuff and and the problem. Is that that that so many passers in our country have? Instead of really doing the work and thinking about what they're responsible for, versus what the governments responsible for what the got actually says about that instead. They've bought this lie essentially that love your neighbor as yourself. Is Whatever progressives say it is. With a few minor exceptions. abortion and lgbt stuff barely barely. Those are the exceptions. But but don't you dare call LGBT ISM. What the Bible calls it? That's not loving your neighbor as yourself. Don't you dare actually say that that that abortion is what the Bible says it is in the penalty should be what the Bible says it is. That's not loving your neighbor and yourself, so it's like they're barely right on those things. Yeah, but but right now i. mean let's just face it. So many passers are basically exchanging what the Bible says about love your neighbor for whatever progressives are pushing at the moment All of a sudden be hurts. A Christian, literally told me that the hydroxy cut thing. This is why I was thinking about this. If if we I supported hydroxy cut for corona virus that I wasn't loving my neighbor as myself because people that have lupus need that disease I have lupus. How dare you reduce the supply? I need that to live. And I'm just I'm I'm? I was just shocked like, are you, are you? Are you insane? Yes! Absolutely. And this is one of those liberal Christian and he's. He's been a little a long time of course but. You know whatever whatever you know. Whatever Pelosi same. That's love your neighbor as yourself I guarantee you. Without fail whatever Pelosi says. You can find a hot take on Gospel coalition about how that's loving your neighbor as yourself. Yeah, they'll probably sends poor intern. Right about it, or maybe that's the see that does that. Do you remember that was the first thing we ever did on Corona virus? Do you remember? That insurance Chinese food yeah that they they abandoned that narrow narrative a long time ago, that was the initial narrative like you can't be racist against Chinese people that they abandoned. That dropped out like a hot potato. you know you were bringing up the soft on abortion and soft on Lgbtq things and it's just funny, because if thinking back of just the churches I've attended You don't really hear sermons about it that much you don't hear sermons against the cultural accepted like principles idols. Whatever you WANNA. Call these things, and that really gives way for them to do. The things are doing today. It's like if the church have stood firm and preached out against those things back in the nineties eighties whenever that hot debate was happening, I guess it's been happening for a while, but there was like really a time where it was, and it seems like the church kind of. Gave into society into culture and say Oh. We're not supposed to talk about those things Oh. We can't do too much about politics. We might lose our five. Oh, one C. Three status, and we Kinda just tamed are preaching down to make the culture happy which kind of just set the foundation for them to tell us stop stop singing worship. Those. Things aren't connected. Graph definitely connective about right. which makes it even more like just infuriating to see just the progression and where we are today, it's like we need to get back to You know standing for something. I. Look at this. This picture met Oh no. It's what pitcher. I sent you the link to it in the chat. Oh Do you send me into private chat. Okay? Oh, I can't. I can never I can never. I can never posted the in the live chat. Why can't you do that? Look at that shirt. They're selling that. Listen lament in legislate. Jude three project. That's a that's a that's. A woke EXP-. By this guy looks so happy, he's like he's just living the good life man. They cropped it off, but he's actually running over. White people. You said it I did. Lament legislate three. Dow. Order your shirt. That I get one of the it's. You should wear it on one of your shows. That'd be hilarious. Lament lands end up buying this. He's gotTa be great. You gotta get him it. started. Sorry to distract you know. They got a whole line. They got mugs. They got it all. Get your memorabilia while you can. This is actually a good one. This is the same the same organization as a shirt that says viral does not equal valid. Which is so ironic coming from a social justice. Oh goodness! Obviously, they don't have a blue checkmark. What are the things all this week? With the fighting against the facemask things as the OC school board, which is my hometown. I don't know if you knew this. I grew up in. Orange County California. Okay Yeah, well. How did for everyone else? I grew up in Orange County California which used to be pretty conservative county. Actually it was. It was where all the La Conservatives had to work, but wanted to live somewhere. That was not in crazy, so they would live in orange, county and commute up to La. the school board approved a four one vote where the schools are going to reopen without requiring social distancing or wearing masks, which shouldn't be surprising because all the science says that kids aren't at risk. But there they are in the most liberal of States, impressive host school board, and I was doing. I actually did a show on this for how to build a tent. Whereas encouraging people that if you feel overwhelmed about you, know not being able to influence politics, you don't have billions of dollars to be a mega donor in the national level. Like you can do. You can have an impact on the school board level. You can have impact on a mayor's race, and you could stand up for sanity even in a crazy place like California. But the second thought I, had there was really depressing to me. Is there are there are governments that are standing up to the government better than the churches. Like the Orange County, school board is standing up the Gavin newsom more than most churches are in California. Yeah? That's pretty rough and then what is Romans? Thirteen crowds do in orange, county. Do they send their kids to school? Social distancing or face mask, or do they submit to the governor? Which Authority do you obey I guess he kinda. Do both somehow. Otherwise, through face. Other otherwise, you are just a scofflaw. You're just a rebel. You're breaking the fifth commandment. You're not loving your neighbor. That's for sure. And I. Bring this up simply because it gets so confusing. When you are obained things that you ought not to when you don't have a foundation in the Bible, but for us it's clear. That we don't submit to the government in these cases that we don't need to, yet is not there. And so when we see this, we don't have a problem with it because we know Gavin newsom insane. In Bay in any ways we're. GonNa Sing in Church. Because God commanded it, we're going to meet in church because God commanded it, and if we for some reason, have our kids in public school I don't know why we would, but when they say, don't wear a mask like good. They weren't anyways listen I. let me encourage anyone who's listening to this and and is worried about what could happen. I'll you? I've been arrested before? It's not the end of the world. It's not fun. Nobody wants to get in trouble coming from a minority new. Orleans, it's not the end of the world and you know what. Like if you were arrested for singing in church. And you were put in jail for the night for singing for church. That would be epic. Her honestly that that would be something. So. Don't don't worry about that stuff, man. Don't worry about that stuff you know, do your due diligence. Maybe lift a few extra weights. Weeks also. You can bulk up a little bit. But but But seriously, though man like like this is. Like don't don't worry about. There's lots of worse things that can happen to you. Sing sing to the Lord, man the way he's commanded you to do and newsome is. Would he arrest them one for singing at Church? It's possible. I don't think he would. But as possible, and it's not the end of the world. Pitcher be working out and I was like. Why are you starting to work out I'm like I'm getting ready for jail baby. Yeah, well, it'd be funny to. One, of the things that happens to you when you go to jails, you'll get asked like wh. What are you in for? Because you know, there's a few reasons for that number one. They WANNA size you up a little bit and number two. We want to make sure you're not a child, molester or something, because if your child molester going to beat you up, you know what they're gonNA. They're GONNA get you. But, if you were if Syria, what are you in for and you say? I was singing the Lord man like governor. newsom said that I wasn't supposed to sing and I was like. Not I'm not doing that. Like, I. Don't listen. I'm not I'm not hardened criminal, but I think you'd get some respect. And I'm pretty sure you get getting crown in heaven for that you'll get. You'll get definitely. Man GotTa get one for that, but in all seriousness I. Hear this all the time and I'm actually even seen it in the chat. The chats that you could get find. It gets expensive. You could go to jail. And it's like that's exactly what the Bible told us going to happen like don't like. Why are you surprised when the world hates you? Like, isn't that when the we take divers out of context, I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me when I have everything or nothing like we should be willing to give everything that we have from an earthly perspective to glorify God. We should be giving everything. We have to be following in obeying him, and if that means, we get fined for all the money in our bank account like. Don't you think that God's pleased with that? The. Don't you think that is honoring him? If you go to jail and you lose your job because you were obeying God and worshipping God in giving Him Glory. Don't you think he's pleased with that? And like? We just need to get our mindsets right and so much so many of us don't have that foundation where we are kind of living for the world in some ways where we are bank account is important to us. Our 401K's important do as our careers important to us where those things are really hard to let go of. But we gotta hold onto Jesus and not this world, and you can't hold on the both at the same time. You know I think now I wanna read one of these comments before we end but But yeah. No look at your bank account is important. You know you gotTA. Take care of your family. You got to do these things that we're not saying they're not important, but what we're saying is this is not your life. You know this is not. This is not what you're living for. You know so like I don't want my life to be more difficult. I want my life to be as easy as possible, but at the same time like I. Don't get to choose the battles. I don't get to choose what's going on like I. I didn't I didn't pick that that social justice was gonNA infect the church, and I was going to have these mix of experiences in my life. I was going to grow up Puerto Rican, but with a with a level headed father i. take all this stuff. Got This for me. You know what I mean. I didn't pick the fact that I would very politely disagree one day on a friend's. Facebook, comment and post very polite. Video and I was going to get ridiculous backlash. And I was going to think to myself. Oh, there's something here. I got to be something here because of that. I didn't pick all this stuff like this. Is this God? Pick the battles that we're in right now right now. The battle is. The government's telling you not to meet for Church. And and everyone's getting woke. Those are the battles right now and so so you just fight you listen God God God. Made You alive today? He put you here today. People in the United States here and you don't get to pick where you're born. You don't get to pick who your parents are. You don't get to pick any of this stuff. But you do get to pick the you know who you serve and in and you should choose God. You know what I mean. You should choose to serve the Lord and and do it. That's what my whole no despair thing is. Do it with all you have and do it. You know minding your own business. We're going to bring it back to that, but that's what notice bears all about like. Just mind what God said for you and don't worry about the rest of it, you know. Newson will do what he has to do, but you need to do what you have to do and I want to read this comment. Sorry, sorry I'm talking for a bit but please. We got a comment in from Youtube. It looks like it's as a D.. I May Have Church discipline against me for singing in church. The session meets next week. So. Don't know the circumstances here, but what he says. The session is meeting next week to decide whether to church. Discipline this guy for singing church. If that is as stupid as it sounds, and I'm not saying I. Don't believe you, but like it's just one sentence. If that if that is really what it sounds like, that's insane and the whole APP, the whole thing of no despair for you for this commenter is. All you have to do is do your duty before God and this. Let the session do their duty. You can't control the session. You can control yourself. And, so they excommunicate you or discipline, you or whatever it is that they choose to do. They're going to have to respond an answer for that. That's not your decision. You do your duty before God. That's all you can do man. That's all you can do, and if newsom decides to arrest you, find you or whatever the church wants to kick you out or whatever it is like. Let them. Go let them go at it because they're going to have to respond to that. You can only answer for yourself and your family. Yeah, and we're not responsible for the results, the good or the bad right come from Amen, where responsible for the faithfulness don't even worry. Don't even think about what may or may not happen from it. You just serve the Lord you choose today to serve. The Lord put away the idols from over the river. Put away the idols that our father served. And faithfully serve him. That's your job. That's your role. That's your duty and obligation is. That, same commenter you put on the screen, Berry. He said very well. This is good stuff. Bury the duty is ours. The results are God that reminds me of the proverb that says you know. We make our plans, or we plan our course, but the Lord establishes our steps, so we decide what to do, but the Lord is the one who decides what happens. You know what I mean and that's that's that's. That's really well. Put. That's that's. That's a truth that we need to take with US everywhere. We go, because because we've got duties. That's it we've got duties and everyone else has duties, and just because they're a breaking their duties. Does it mean that we can break ours? Hayman we'll with that. Thank you for listening for those live with the podcast comes out Friday. Tomorrow and you can join US next week Thursday. Seven thirty PM eastern love to have you part of the show saying goodbye for eighty and myself have a good night and God bless.

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