20 Episode results for "Cal Academy"

E996: Clearbit CEO & Co-founder Alex MacCaw is creating god-mode for marketers with Clearbit X, gives insights on dynamic customer targeting, prioritizing profitability over valuation, GDPRs adverse effect on Facebook & Google, value of aggregated data & benefits of CEO coaching

This Week in Startups

1:01:53 hr | 1 year ago

E996: Clearbit CEO & Co-founder Alex MacCaw is creating god-mode for marketers with Clearbit X, gives insights on dynamic customer targeting, prioritizing profitability over valuation, GDPRs adverse effect on Facebook & Google, value of aggregated data & benefits of CEO coaching

"This week in startups brought to you by squarespace purchase of a website or domain calm seas the day and sleep I'm slash twist that C. A. L. M. dot com slash twist refer one hundred days at eight sleep dot com slash twist apply for the next I'm your host Jason Cal Academy so we've been talking a lot about the Pegasus movement what is the Pegasus we didn't anticipate this we're skipping rounds of funding how to skip around a funding as a startup a series a. a series as a bridge series be well it turns out that if that you can then pour into growth and if you skip around to funding Lo and behold and boy does that make all the difference in the world and we've been finding these Pegasus founders dot com that's C. L. E. A. R. B. I. T. Dot Com and we actually use clear bet. NYU started it. Well thank you so much for having me so Clifford as essentially base better that's a very basic level these days we have a use inside it's worked out pretty well for us we can basically when somebody signs zone dot com or maybe you just have their g mail you're able to paying from what I understand so you could if I put Jason at Cal Kansas you might know that's my email and CEO of inside dot com correct correct so when it comes to people with basically just automating a Google nations that Cambridge Cambridge analytica scandal I would suspect yeah you don't have to have in the database and actually that's something you should know from this because we're B. Two B. Data only right you know we're not selling consumer Kerry with don't you care it's just publicly available data that something like your Anthony size location company but a cool that kind of thing and get into proprietary stuff is actually let you look up companies by Ip address right and identifies your web browser hitting a server somewhere well pennies were visiting it was just a known so with our API people coming but they didn't do that step of resolving who owned that Ip address did you build that database then so we have free Tulsa we we is we clear Bacon Act and what does that do that free extension so that's do you guys remember I'm to go do a reverse look up tell you about the person yes and so if you use that assist you have to give access to your contacts Upload Your address book from g mail yeah somebody's named Jason Columnists and they work at the launch investment company you will try to so that's cool that you know okay Microsoft any level and you're absolutely correct is less useful for a company the size of Microsoft much more useful for smaller companies it's if you see some SMP looking looking or evaluating us to invest in them. How does one use that data without right whippersnapper AF means yes you say Alex I notice you were surfing my webpage today do you want me to invest money creepy yeah you Kinda you donahue companies visiting but you can use healthcare company and I'm visiting a website now you can display healthcare testimonials dynamically tell me your from a company that has one hundred to two hundred fifty employees a healthcare works with companies with under five hundred right and we bet you can have it all be done dynamically all dynamic dynamically and we had a company acne they added a half million dollars in annual run raid reoccurring revenue yet we don't show the Individual Pricey we just show the enterprise breath we just show context sales Gli a caterer customer Got It okay when we get back from so as an individual do I get to know what you have on me I clear dot com and this way you can do things like blog published content sell products may be self-services Gorgeous beautiful websites and had these amazing customizable templates and powerful university so you get great out on the Knicks you're going to get search engine optimization and you see them browsing templates squarespace to create a site he chooses a photography he just did that for fun and you can see how quick and easy it is here's what I want you to I checked your offense use the offer code twist twit and you'll save I really love it let's get back to this amazing all right Alex mccaw is with us he's CEO and billion dollar seed round in two thousand fifteen so you had four years between the two rounds Castro I always very 'em cash positive because we found we were compromising on various things we wanted to do but we at least we made that decision million dollar valuation ex exactly yeah it was a little high but yeah it was big dilation for fifteen million but originally you deluded let's say twenty percent for the two million as you didn't get to have whatever another five million dollars or four million dollars to screw now was there an internal discussion pressure on you to raise another more money Oh yeah how did you business people who wanted to invest in the company were like hey take my ten ends where they're coming from what where they're coming from how would you interpret that the existing they won signaling and they want you to succeed this slightly maybe words still says the companies were ten million and they invested a two and doe Rae me show me the Dow yeah let's Talk Doe Ray me in my Alex Alex to he would just send me this update Jake Alex and just like I just put you might click it it opens yeah I can see why you do this you show up doray dopamine and I don't care raised you're an English guy I am so do you know Alex from back in his idea I and no one had any idea was going to be a business like that I had ten thousand revenue I knew there were at least three of regular basis this is the number one issue in Europe right now thousand data being even though people put in publicly feels a little weird people when they see yeah because I didn't I don't use facebook but I had the APP on my phone and it was tracking we can change it how does that all work so to be clear consumer we didn't have your location of into twitter other people can find you that email address people do know that I mean people google themselves Eh. Pr Pr and how did that impact your business if at all Ravin wise I can't even point on the graph so so we had no how will we look back on what the e U created I believe it was you it's had on the industry if any have you heard the phrase the take the privacy of the citizens okay and the past to hell that we wound up on they've office the existing incumbents so in this case how did you do that it's much to start a company but also these advertising networks that didn't have an use the data right only Google and facebook have that relationship because they have services all this data because they use it to make the services better yeah whereas an ad services that valuable to them but the rest of the advertising companies didn't have that relationship so less important market for clear bit we have less but we still have a few less than ten percent not really a great market yeah not a focus for us I think we targeted ads better we're pretty upfront about that we're also doing surveys with our data so we know you opened it we know you clicked a link we might ask you what's your exact title right or the data what's interesting is the we have found marketing companies it their title or they don't want to be contacted for whatever reason therefore they cleats forms so you have a form and you have an email field assume if we don't then it's lengthened and we ask that person to fill in the missing blanks it's Nice wpro low anxiety producing Did you see a change in culture in and sleep at night it definitely helped me sleep at night no more grinding your teeth or that has really helped my mental health but it's here break you were anti coaching no bias and said I need a coach and then I wanna tell you to tell everybody about that actually happened when we get back on the are listen think about it like learning and problem solving and decision making all these things we do we get that great night's sleep you know what I'm talking about then you're more focused and relaxed and help you get the sleep your brain and body needs like soundscape hand over and he goes through it and he finds some nonfiction and he's and then he looks at sleep he does Lullaby to the stars so relaxing uh-huh slash twist dot com slash TWA forty I love the company and I'm so proud of the work team over there is doing it's just such an amazing APP and such a great story the thing is where you talk very quietly and then I get the email from worry we were app of the year and we did ten million ask Mr does she eat something that sounds like really interesting when you ego thing yeah something must have happened to you yeah will you realized help or the company was actually doing very well which is why I didn't think I needed any help right I was like why do I need had seven accuracy and maybe some EXC- but Luckily I had set up this Up this feedback safe environment that and so I was giving and receiving feedback let me guess you too hard on your team will you too critical read the company's very successful here you are on this week in startups two hundred fifty million dollar valuation You sucked out that they told you well it came to time whereas it too painful I'd given up and I had replaced it with nothing and I was really depressed aw and read a crossroad I was at a crossroads with free time yeah and mission and values and everything's dialed in and you find yourself all of a sudden with nothing have it the honestly because I find that CEO's hero better than other people and they having set up the right systems they haven't hide and it typically comes from high performers in my experience like yourself with the coding ask I'm going to show you how it's done right the truth is what it's a recognition as the founder and I think founders should really and the boat is just selling perfectly everything is in order we're headed in the right direction fratton anymore then you could set a bigger challenge for yourself right right and you can also a bigger vision while horrid you go back to coding because they were just like this guy's really annoying when he's not coach Matt Massari and he showed me the love of Company building I seems then you stop doing that and now you're like well why am I here I I like chatting to computers rather than people so you think you're going into a lot of different perceptions in my mind never had an explicit coach myself so the first the first thing huffing person I think he's the best coach in the World Scott Matt Mishari and he and I read this book and I thought it was incredible I wish yeah he basically he was about to start get coin base but he has some time and in the sat down with me every day for a couple of weeks and book it's details at all what what would you have your summarize this Mo- Shari all over again well there's a few different aspects to and the ones that I would particularly at at the first one is feedback about you know I like I was the bees company look yeah you back is the key to personal growth and instituting back previously you didn't encourage it no I did not and if people give you feedback gno below the line you are not curious your defensive ask and now you've learned to do what so now I've learned to I try and seek the truth rather than my personal right got it and jerk what did they tell you I I had some feedback about a year ago from my it's heading us having this is not gonna it's not gonNA scale chicken articulate that's because I go to speech coach he did yeah well because they news true I they just teach you how to not panic when you're onstage or so he annunciation and sentenced formation and then he'll also off what is the emotion that I want people to come away from this with you know probably not happens after a tedtalk is that people feel something yeah as opposed to like they got some you provide coaching now to all of your mm-hmm so yes everyone everyone club it has a therapist we the the they have I think monthly in persons sessions possession yeah three hundred four hundred bucks yeah

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The DC Young Fly Interview

No Jumper

1:08:46 hr | 1 year ago

The DC Young Fly Interview

"No jabber coups podcast in the world and today. I'm in here with my friend d._c. Young fly how're you. Doing you know jumper wessel. Appreciate you say you'd coolest crews podcast all right you too bye games but eight five south show is the coldest podcast is supposed to know the name you go back to your home where we have a studio they do. We just go tour. Oh okay. I thought that was primarily. You're you're not allowed to primary nude. It just so happened as we started door at the we we still go back. Ah go do the podcast in labs but you know you got. The coolest is the coolest share has really use that phrasing the coldest no coat fucking podcast. It's fucking. Let me tell you my favorite. Now you've got the coolest didn't recall that cooling. Nobody really bud light it yeah. I don't know us calling us the coolest podcast because i don't look at myself and think i'm the coolest person but you know what i've been following for a longtime avalon hill. You ain't call my people falling so i could do an interview steelite deliver. We called you. Let how you got to have a great p._r. People people know semi publicist is the one dial the infamy. I'm like oh always wanted to meet that guy. Why do you think to ask him before that's right but we hear you know app allows them. I appreciate that but you're still you're still black on the inside. He got he got the movie fan yeah. The one that trust me yesterday was a lot fucking like this is a nice eighty-seven yesterday was rough ninety birds of i my won't fix the roof. Oh yeah yeah yeah. That's definitely part of probably the biggest problem right there. You gotta hammock tamika group then. I feel we wanna see i. I was wondering wait what what he on. That would be a little much okay but is we cover it because the sun will get a little direct. It'd be fucking right. I would really hit the are adequate word from our sponsor. 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Let's talk about the early days for days early days zero for atlanta website born and raised a._t._l. Whereas all of my day is not the most every day to you as a seven year old what percentage of the confidence and hilarity and humor that you have now. Did you have at that time or is this something that you just got goofy at saving yo. You gotta think about an hour to going to church living woo steer going outside. You know nineties baby. You know we still going outside going rocks at caused you know one or will not air by they probably wanted to. Maybe a playstation want. If dan on super nintendo ran out oh yeah yeah modell's my last son mortal kombat street fighter two now we have out here. We had to demo games demo mario pain. We played out a demo game. We'll run them. Kimmo gave up. They beat the shit. Oh yeah oh no way it turned soups and i'll in uh-huh dug in and out of there being a regular key really be key off saying ou gaining. She was doing keys. She won't do grown. It will probably want to who is so dope who were like twelve you didn't they got real. That's when you knew this day cocaine. What did you see for yourself as as potential possibilities that you could actually accomplish with yourself out of that as we were you in the mind state that you could be anything you wanted to do or you think i'm gonna is be a street guy. We have moore's values. You know they teach you like what do you call it like a i go oh and he had like a post-secondary ago. You had to have a first term go. Would you wanna do you wanna go to canada. I had that no were you gotta have a post secondary. Goals with jessica indicate drains going to school. I came up in arrow keys as being smart. You know what i'm saying it one night cool for you to be smart what it was a lot of bad smartphone when i will like nowadays or the oh jeez stop talking tools bro so easy about it to start doing what they wanna do nigga star in ami. We you know what to be honest. Magin racing is canada reason for the the flecha. I gotta put it that we was we started being about oji didn't give a shit about all right yeah we did. It was like i saw me what you're talking about neo g. o. c. You can't fight on boban on. We're we don't want to rent a neighborhood. We do like we. We had to beat again internet kind of did because it's all of a sudden like oh like everybody's being judged by how much clout you have in these old heads. You shot somebody but you ain't got no clout right now so shut up. We don't miss you up on the corner nanna. Ill really mean main hamlet family against the union our main liz you. You can meet somebody who have only shot worse birth. Somebody who's gonna kill thirty people who shot that one person. Don't give that you kill thirty. You don't scare me. You know what i came back respect. If you could respect the acura speak you go along with it. Tastes knock acie law dead on my moss. I got respect at on me mostly. That's all i live by. You respect somebody. Eh you ain't gotta be what i'm all long as you respect me. I'm not gonna take you a long way. You gonna take you a long way. Not this thing that's nat as the key. Don't get them in the young generation is to spit learn about what you're doing but a lot of dumb. It is not doing a lot of stupid shit. She did you do group in a damn. You know you talk to it so when you talk damage done the right i used is to be a dumb. You know what i'm saying so it's like we gotta go back started giving the wisdom to the young kid like i always even all throw it out. I'm i'm craving. You feel real. I get a real but at the end of the day. I'm not like look if you do it the way they will do they way. They will probably have lab you. If you're looking at me on t real out. I'd do it this way outta time zero saying like he gets a prado won't be about about t._d. He ki- prado god is rio. If you think i'm sticking to the assembly mega man i crazy the thing is crazy. I feel like he's almost everybody. I feel like i know my my girl most of my close friends. I feel like almost all of them right. Yeah we come. I feel like i've never seen any evidence of god. Our really have any reason to try to venture a guess like all the holy bibles are all the holy books that people base their the religious ideas on is really like a huge leap of faith that i don't big zinc logic behind career. Yeah i grew up on a church all the time. It's never made stuff. Gotta be like physical toll issue. Let's see i'm willing. I'm willing to believe in like adams and nucleus isn't electrons and others from energy. We don't need to come from anywhere evolution lucien big bang you mean you have to be taught. We could come from now. You don't need god for morality. I'll tell you what's right and wrong where no no no no no no no no no no. This is called heaven faith. Okay okay faith go. It's foolish. Faith is believing something not having any reasonably but that's that's. Let's just hope doesn't mean that you need to actually that it actually is real. Sorry was real then. What would make me feel good. That's the thing you don't know what's real if i believe you have to be proven to be very confident for me. It would be nice to know that. I know what's going to happen to me. After i applaud the point that that's the theme you wanna know. That's your problem lies out what you know when you wake up the mario football happen you wanna know that's that's why y'all let's stop faith in believe with. Nobody goes angle leak you. Are you ready for a logic bomb. Fuck luxemburger urinate theus to know yes because you you don't believe in all of the gods of i don't believe all of them. You just believe in one of them. No no no no no no no no no no don't. I don't believe you don't believe in allah. You don't believe in all these other ones right. There's only one god. There's only one guy but there's many prophets. That's not what the religion although these religions don't don't agree with each other. It's not it's not really about that. We have different people in this world. Everybody is different. Okay is really not about how you get. The message is all about. Did you get the message you see what i'm saying you. Are you black away yeah. I'm white okay so so obviously you raise different in your household. My parents wanted me to believe in god real bad. It just didn't work. They decided he's headed. I should have just took a little bit. Mole cages talk to you a little bit so was raised a little different as well so you gotta understand. You got muslim christian. It is time matter of fact it's tons of religion. These all it does is to religion. That's in debt. They quote unquote. Tell tell us as andre of different religions you go to a whole other country so she daylight elaine because we made it up three or four days ago because it's only us christian god. I believe there's one god there's one. There's many prophets. There's many prophets. It really doesn't matter how you get. The message is really about. Did you get the message you see. What i'm saying. Faith is not something physical that can be dropped pun you. You're not going to be able to see tomorrow. You won't be able to do my me what i'm doing well right now. I'm did it no pulsing bass the comedy. I didn't know where did that. Come from mccain from you. Sane tain listen a lot of nichols who think they self they self-destruct if you think he's seventy while self-destruct if i wanna do nigga i'm gonna be writing for you feel. Where would you be doing if you want to be. I am murky. Nick is doing a whole lot actually actually wanna do. That was something that i thought that abba supposed to do because i asked him as a notable because this way i quoted on. I have to see massive doing this every day. Because there's nothing else. No you unwanted out elites not learn unlearn. It and you realize that was a better way to live your life. Isn't that earning comedy making content. Johnson is a much better way to live your life. It's called having faith. You definitely need faith faith. You think you've got all of my family and friends. I hope from the culture that i was raised in shamas as i'm gonna tell you like you probably have a great life and you don't wail how you doing great new good also but i promise you your life will probably go a little bit better and be a little bit most peaceful. If you just find donald relationship with anybody say you got to be a christian and nobody say you gotta be a buddhist antibody. Got say you have to join a religion to find a relationship. Nobody says that jimbo but i'm not on my mind. I don't disregard what a muslim believe or what anybody else believe allah. If you believe in god in like kudos to you you see what i'm saying but as my job is not to tell you that you live wrong. I'm i'm. I'm not one of those trees. I have no interest in your living right right right right right so i would assume that your religion doesn't affect your live in any negative way aren't able to blow shit up because of the religious because of religious. I disagree with house tonight if it makes you feel good this. This is what i'm saying but this is what i'm saying as as as spiritually is my duty to tell you you know what i'm saying it won't be. I will feel wrong knowing that. I butani ones zip san jose flab oji duo smokeybear yea dave uh-huh cooler. It wasn't that bad bro bono. We're not we're not talking about. God now most definitely now. I'm here to tell you is. I'll be wrong if i add in a you before. I let you see what i'm saying. I'm not saying that you don't you you you you. You know what i'm saying. Just a tract track tribe leaving god thirteen or fourteen and then i kinda overlook child real shit. You'll you'll child right. How about our family. I did all that. I was twenty. One when i actually understood seon say out steel trying until i was twenty one zero uh-huh and they will not finally said you know what i wanna. I wanna be for real bro. Let show me the way you fame and if you seem back then you listening when you observe and you're going to see it grow even might be conscious. Minded man stopped listening to the chief brought lease tim uber. I'm going to be a real number rimas eternity. Finally she got it will be on t._d. Often about it. If i find a relationship with god is going to be some weird as god. I'm going to be into like hercules authorities or some shit. I'm gonna i can't go with jesus to each his own. I'm going to become the prophet. No no goes guys who handles snakes. You know the handle. Snakes snakes are buying their hands and shit. You remember most says lack from the bar and the simpsons hey hey it's easy zonal jump. That's why you ain't got no job. I know god didn't believe you'd had job but you you ever think about if he gave me that. Maybe i wouldn't be here today if you had been born a ridiculously gifted athlete than you probably wouldn't be a great athlete but not good enough to be an m._b._a. Right it just so happened that just life has different last thursday. You have to face it. You know what i'm saying. That was part. Oh me finding me a relationship one something so bad that i could have the fascinating thing about the wanna be a._p._i. Prayer so fucking think back and it was like no motherfucker do something else la la up sixty one up all the way no team. I never that may not greco. What how do you balance those two things normally when i think about the people i know who are the biggest criminals robbers etc. They're not the funniest people whatever extremists really okay. They are the most hilarious people like but they just have forty would gel with the cops. Ah man you know what it is like. I'll say it man. You just got to find the good in everybody. You know what i'm saying even even if they got the flowers and a guy whatever you feel like you just got to find the good in everybody man we had time now. Listen here at the end of the day you do. I do what i do but we could find blue. Hey man good. They don't disrespect me because i'm ma gave me a lot of screw. I'm tammy a mullah up tackle but when you business lead on my gosh there are all the way back man how long it was that now what is it that nineteen to thirteen before that this is when you had no success in the world of entertainment and shit you we know in time i just wasn't known to the world series you're pointing. This is when you were doing fine. You're doing internet stu- unalienable before like i started by satellite two thousand thirteen. I like you initiate. Patnow magic killed on right. You know what i'm saying so we take care moving but you are the rare exception normally when you see people in their funding on instagram shit. You're thinking that they're not in the streets streets. You're you're playing ball sized man. What about it this thing. There's not really plan both sides. You gotta understand you know real comedian. That'll you know what i'm saying putting them piles or that. Don't mean that they just against the doe cut. You'll beat somebody or you shoot. Some matinal make you against a dynasty is handling your been real man so matter who is making some matter who will say your name. You'll sheet is vanish when they speak upon you nigga. They speak highly of you bro. You feel them saying nigger when you leave nikki presence is still felt is can't right you you take care of your key. E you feel what i'm saying. That is a lot not saying that is being funny. I had donated now. We're having a real life like that's what i was indiscreet. It you just added god redirected my life and told me that i need to do comedy. I would leave. You don't want to do hit the wood or essentially that we he got. You let me get a swiss. I think it's great that we're both smoking because i'm calling you believe in god. You're gonna have a c. and you'd attache likely a whole lot. That's how you know. Influencers is because we both have smoking our own. We need to have our own logos on right. That's what i'll try to tell you. We are not we'd growers. I don't have a fucking grow grow up in the other room in my house. Although actually that would be a pretty good use of the raiders deeply if you mean one's flab oji is definitely in the building with them. We got a little seven grams of the last night jumper. We see that she didn't work and i don't believe in god. I'm not getting big kush. If you maintain she started changing the monkeys leaving and understand it opened. You'll have you just start bless l._s._u. Abundant in knowing she i run a run us through you talked about before but talk about it. I want to know about this incident. That was so traumatic that it made you wanna wanna leave behind the streets and be full on focus on the entertainment and all that dramatic is the stab you leave the streets mahad. Oh you know in life life you know this man. You just got understand. We're going all ideas with a time you know because i saw me little. We you know i would like look or parenting. I i know maybe out plug in a block of no. I fought the cubs crease up excrete discreet next over to the community screaming at me and my little community i live focused resell our putting out on the streets. You know what i'm saying. Fucking keno right there abby will meet but it will like man. I was telling my bidding but once i got stabbed built took my hands away so i had like twenty stitches now for me. Both my august stand on. My brother. Got stabbed her motor. Stat heat on brought. A battle scene came to light. We use find charges and shit. They were trying to blame for everything. We got chris. You know what i'm saying. It was just a whole lot and at that time i had a i had did audition while you're already be doing shit like that like auditioning for wanna. I'm still fighting their charts. We know it was done. That was two thousand fifteen but i was still doing the buying she just fighting net cello. Why did it happen but you know we finally beating and got it all the way down to some like probation attack. Let's say it was crave citizen. We'll try to you if you ain't got no money. You know what i'm saying so i handelman and they give me ten years ten to one of people's daily you all night what book like oh. Oh look i who what is out about who tending bars was charged with trying to put on you based on the fact that you had been managers alike burglary a whole bunch sheet like cruelty to june thirty because you know fighting jurors in his around june and it was like a battery to a certain degree light to three accounts on that she have. I two three counts man. It was like lamm charge bro. It will create like salt charge nina broadway dancing to miss uh-huh drop out of extra sheeting trying to give me and gave me four year probation three years probation. They'll you know that was just tidying away and i mean it makes everything when we're but and i'm better everything we welcome meet my brothers and everybody you know what i mean good soldiers. If i'm dave became at life him orebro scrape soon so you know the nicos take mexico get their books cars with me d. I was listening to utah that story on d._j. Last night and as soon as you said my brother died and then came back alive. Oh yeah that'd be a much more traumatic story. Yes issue <unk> yeah. They were they were going to try to charge to. We're gonna try to hide light. If you wit somebody in dog also will. I thought you should switch. The most was think i'll smoke. I smoke but you know what i'm saying some on if you need a wetlands will run through the sink and all that because the company they were a little drunk dri- she. I don't want smoke but yeah good on able we we live. We i work. Everybody roundly both united me see fig niggles. That's what we have wing playing. We die doing then air rams. Stay prayed. You dig what i'm saying could it have we moved it. How we rock dig on suffrage apple. We'll talk. We're all pray for you money about any primary protrude thank on practicing meaning of yourself but you know pray when hercules and thor and all that he sleep my sleep perk yalies england no saying okay but so who who actually were you looking at because you're such an innovator in this space of light young black creators on social. The media really made a name for themselves on that. Was there anybody on social media that you were even looking at that you were like. I want to be like this because now kids get the look you it'd be like i want to be like him. Then we'll the people that are went crazy on before me like like became bash today's dawn. You know what i'm saying. The boy had been planning type of work. You know table. Oh like them. Buying old like on the heaven meetings and follows already like emanuel has been on the internet. You know what i'm saying. It's just like i was. I got on tool and i'm just like okay. Is this you know what i'm saying. What is this inundate would <unk>. Come from speaking on the record. No video nowadays allies police. She always coys everyday puts thrown out. You know what i'm saying so let me get an imitator even today when i see people record and debbie people that'd be week meet and snapchat in the hood is a little bit of a feeling like man. I hope nobody feels some type of way. Whatever the folks going on here i mean could they ran out to be a bank here. Standard you feel real tau fabricio fab and play our that's known as the funniest dude about finding what wi calling from it ain't hard. I find somebody with a sense of humor. Everybody one thing living in hoodbhoy. Everybody got some type of talent us say they smart ahead a funny inada coming over to look for the ten kate quote uncle easter rough ear gala man. What is it about you that you had a different level of motivation than most like yeah. I know what you mean like. Yeah you go to the hood. This prayed up man me two thousand funny people but you're the borne by acceptance of the rue who actually the motivation annual able the work within the system where my wife had to pay. Put me on you see what i'm saying when he put me on. I didn't kill going my boy mafia. You wear two hundred five teen that we've been doing this sheet. You know what i'm saying but we stay. I prado killed female. Could prayer works no giampa. Doesn't you know what i'm saying. Definitely workman telling you got you got to believe. Even you got to stay down. How would you feel if i were to just be like fuck it. I'm dr jesus was doing and i wanna really work. I'm i found. This guy knows a muslim the other day. This white guy fell some way about that's that's that's saying i felt i found out that white guy now is muslim. The other day and i felt like it was kind of funny because i was trying to pitch awoke my my friends would say if i said that i was muslim. I feel you pretty obvious but i just feel like nobody would believe you could find line almost goddess. That's the rockies took user on you. Gotta pray for religious. Were like managed as opera aw it ain't inigo cover. That's gonna come in and curse. You have to understand right. You have to understand and try to figure out way what is what is he coming from and once you understand spiritual your spiritual beliefs. Don't let you know bro. You have a natural talent right you have you you have a natural born talent okay but your spiritual beliefs and if you believe in is going to lead you to your natural law. Do you think when the guy with the gun and put it in my face here are livestream trying to get my life together actually feel like i got live together without god over the past couple of years i mean hey you thank you thank you get it again d._c. I used to be running around cain up my nose. Fucking every random girl i met graduated pass out. I'm feeling good. I'm gonna tell you what it is. You got people around you who believe in that's why i don't think so thanks so much heathens lewis and he believe in got radio never really talked to me about god though so yeah to lose nigga look gerry cole road you gotta start. He need what we need to know about it. It's kind of a it's kind of weird being atheist and hip hop because you know this is a black art form and there's so many people that god is really important. You always kind of wonder you're actually one of the. I really have this conversation. We actually this is what j. j. cole had a conversation when i met him about religion believers even yes yours allow about what pad the top eight years okay yeah yeah. You sit and you know what i'm saying they can. We we came out a spiritual letter. Do not get a just take me where it might not change tamar. It might not change. Thank you today might not be going to be some sheet ignorant. Be you go sit. You'll feel like deja. Vu made us laugh h. E. over that full ou can live through that being a bali hora who went with that angel odor the colonel fucking know nick. When are you planning on going in to church. Are you sinning known when you're going to go into church and ask for forgiveness for the sins that you're doing this isn't that sin isn't asks in church or are you talking about sentence that that's that sit in his hand and that's your your do all that to go to the confederacy <unk> confessed. Oh i know what i'm saying you ask for forgiveness now. What am i asking for forgiveness for exactly eh inside out of your person that person you know what i'm saying it wrong when you when you could lead let emini. I'd do all they can. You know now too much sometime we have to be. You know what i'm saying. Pray to become better if everything has been told her like years dance dance right as long as ain't right. You know what i'm saying like to be like even out again to see that we probably do. We would living everyday so we thought it will right but not data cyber <unk>. There's less figures out before we take that route with what we smacked home waiting list. Can we talk at we ate. We was not talked to talk it out earth. Could you talk about beats. You ski with ravine skiing will do some you know they can skate and do some shopping so let me i thought it might and i need a big number. Could who's the room probably not going on. He did talk about obituary. He taught let me go sheriff as saddam la amen. How could we hannity's coming up with solutions instead of adamo problem. We need to fast and loose with jay z and cal academy. She our uh-huh damn topic right. Now is just dane dash here right before you. He had some fucking harsh words for everybody know jane shit ooh. I was like wow that's an spicy. Take right there. Who made it easy well. Dan dash is one person for sure okay but who who who manages nevada ebola medicine. Do you give me a lot of good music. Throughout my life probably wouldn't be merely rap if it wasn't for jay z is this is is my whole other discussion. Stay prayed up. No jump okay walter. You shouldn't be may a._j.'s e for no apparent reason okay. That's what's wrong with us. They need pick and make us tune interests. It's sheet. They don't even matter we always tend to chatto uproar problem or what we think is is a problem instead of paying attention to the key. You know what i'm saying the key problem and try to find a solution man j._c. Still he said he said without saying the nigga way he he would like. I came when they asked him when she puhl so. How did you feel about capital do see when he turned around. He won't call them nigger bitch. It didn't what did we talk. You thought he wanted to the table. What are we talking about. Okay we're gonna keep talking about cat. Bring awareness to the situation okay. Eh he brought awareness to the situation. He made a big uproar about the situation. We need somebody to make that sacrifice now because you can't just stay on the outside of the system and hope the change in anger they own outside yelling you could have more on the big yet. It carried me on outside cannon so some attic got to go in the chain niggles then when we get into a position that they act try there have us in in first <music> out because make out his uproar. 'cause i'm trying to have a base to too much. Apples will be oh. My sad live birth ball. He got signed with outside and if no one football goal got the negative got bought a million. He got no uproar main enough. You know what i'm saying the record really the main problem. Is we need to have a equality around the board. It was never about the flag none of that people. Just don't want to understand the real problem the i'm are we want to take their own meaning endured other way the man neil for police boots hannity that was it. We need equality. We always end info the flag in wouldn't talk about what's going on outside of america. We'll go s out of america. The month protecting a is canada okay as always saying yeah talking about advantage of ood top matinee. If i we salute our patriots you baby we we we police lieutenant gonna take as well and try to bad glad country. Okay say no now he made out at uproar we d- it out. It still needs solution people. We still needed solution. What we need is people who are of the culture like jay z working right in the corporate system and doing making things worth thing but this is name. We need a solution now. We got somebody in power in position to handle business within donning black. So what are you going to do about cap of your room a mercedes again. It wasn't even about <hes> deaths were needs field nine making it bow cap wine clean about it was about police brutality stopped making it about cat cap hannah. He binny's he halsted already. He didn't the as opposed to go in and finishing rubber. People see it as an injustice this as a cat situation instead of a police brutality and everybody's hanania in planning part. They make z. i. The job ain't done a t hide on the team brooke. Listen listen brooke list. Nobody is trying to have big out. We ow ow own team. The knicks played for the falcons. If i go on their asked them both please get cal academy. Okay colleague cabinet hammond. He been for the community bro. He may out at nor somebody somebody stand up. He did a poet somatic at going. Apnea may help y'all make beef is not a beef. You don't even know cattleman with the negative told him but you know what i'm saying. We'd say look at other. See everybody got on say ain't got and then going on in the world ain't got no bid and don't understand how being looks great. I hope you'll cut out about away. No no been find your l._l._c. Hamilton did and broke. Could we are trying mcgee trying to we try to get it back and we never had would you try to make you wish great okay that end of the day you know in about looking for brosseau you outcome <unk> like ourselves discussion. We always attendance. <unk> are saying we can in the plan before the plane even got now. Happy come on man. Let's figure out less help instead of being parted as you either going to be part of the progress. You won't be part of the problem you that you do like it. Okay that moment that you had where you were trying to offer while now this whole thing happened and then when you do get on while now right after that and how does that change your life and your mentor. I didn't really know until like a couple of weeks later. They already fly people in they are it'd be having they scheduled already repair manuals on the menu hustle on the same management team at one point he was already flown out there and they flew amihai probably a couple of days later today before they start shooting. You know what i'm saying so once they they did oh shit we owe while now and then you know they uneaten t._v. For you know what i'm saying so we kick off now. Are you still riding on. Those seems like most people only last a few seasons and you've been veteran. You're still using its you know what would change the culture of the game instead of actually being a show to just put people on which it really is we made it seem like sitcom outing eighteen to go go on and look for the justino hitman holland kalos. You know what i'm saying. They're going to look for certain people charlie clips with my. We turned into a sitcom instead of it. Being an agile put on show people need a platform to get on. We like air. We needed appreciate it with light. See anybody say we need to turn it by the you know what i'm saying so that's the kid like everybody on this show man. We do that kim's together. Why did you do that so it was a it was good relationship with the now i had a great relationship with her back near fossil comfortable fucking around with i mean it was pipeline. Was you know that that's the homie. She says i'm okay chiel. She says okay allow breakfast. It took it too far though that you offended her assays on my abrasiveness okay that was it but she took it as cholera strength and i don't know i don't think she said that she thought nah. I'll say that was like the literal actual quotes somebody call ugly and that she said that that was color because somebody compared to ah probably always leaguers. That's my lesson labor so that's how but i'll this each eat. They're not she was the greatest bar. This is a good time for me to talk to somebody like you about this is all right so there was an incident where comedian came out and made some jokes. The joke basically lee was she said something about excess entice you on our good friend of the show good friend of mine actually wearing his baby picture on my shirt right now but this comedian made a joke doc something about how you know him getting killed fifty thousand dollars cash was basically a really good commercial that issue speeco neck play okay but this is the thing that i'm interested in. It seemed like the whole comedy community was really having her back makeup code how pay attention to the island about a common community d._c. Do would d._c. Off ladders and at tell jokes and make people around the world and our spit on their but do you think that as a comedian you have the right to joke around about whatever you want on on we we could go to a next question and we ethic wasn't he's known a whole another level another big on well actually appreciate that because i do feel like that's kind of a hard time understanding how somebody can just laugh so soon era in general about somebody who lost their life also jumping me any beat will appreciate that okay so you know we had on here the other day. We had timothy kim again. That's my guy tam. Roast them real quick or not. How rose goes is gonna go rose s. They've got to be up in it. I feel like so what you're rose towards him. Just off tom. That's my that's my guy bad here. We've been doing rush hour. Sheets is russ. I wrestle dynamic van and then we really did a parody on you to a guy with a car but it's all pain went crave negotiate sheet. I doc works. That's all i know i mean that's the name of the youtube channel <hes> people come and wanting to just jump cajones e mail telling no you know they'll be like oh while and out of right now. We're doing our job yeah. It's not me you know. It's a pleasant umbro female comedy game like you know what i'm saying. You got a road parties like you know famous breath personally even like this that are tough to take the amount of attention that you get when you out and about now. Can you know have been you know what i'm saying like people know my name vote most popular grave from a neighborhood. I won't eat on three d. a coup chebbi chen. I like the cheese i like. I like to be row women. I like to be in a good environment. Domina and i'm still science financial. You'd be like why day about and i'm like you can be air about ad might be everybody ooh but you need to be that rat bright etc funny. Don't mean fuck out right now austin general but when you're in your position as you gotta worry about weird <hes> stalker type people who are fucking tracking you down right. I mean you know that come with the game and he did dubai being famous cray mom she goes talk your way down dany about being famous having been into buren bro. You know mainers metal a lot of west not takahashi by let him hey real trillion say real player with <hes>. Ah you got your way but we you'd be. You know what i don't even care. You know what we go get it. I'm going to be a real niggle. I'm analysis. That's my two more so yeah. That's my guy. You know what i'm saying. That's my guy from from back need schooling too because you really atlanta's not to produce a lotta irealand. You knew he was back then the wants to. It ain't great. I get punched in the mouth about world may never forget all team. A a middle school thug grew up in a a real rafael neighborhood call jumba soundman taking me it like bone home home on south side this she is frail. You dig what i'm saying. I forget some some headwinds. Seizure says some man got now could be one dot com from slow. I'm talking like dirt. You know so to see him. How he'd been got manages. She nick acid luke bryan because i know what a fucking come from and we all come from the dirt but at no from you you're going to school and you see she ladbroke. You have on your man. You know what i'm saying so but yeah and upgrade i forget the teacher says some though i think grabbed them you know there's like so he poppies as well out out at the room. The teacher walk leads. Are we seeing come back to work. Oh he ain't come into work. Kit have middle school for teaching age greater. Wow that's juicer greater about elaborate actually about a week ago which great back now thirty jab okay not was that trip to see somebody like him becomes massive rab god when you knew him when he was his regular s. kids. I mean now see hanalei being umbrella. We salute there she. Can you know not a lot of talent that she does that. She's rich. I want to school rich coin to you've that's best. Famine nephew is my godson as family house. They grapple apple. We all went to school together so it was like to see us come from they're saying john it'd be like okay. It was something there if all of us part you know there is something going on. We just stay prayed up because i work in roseau salute alpine as you. D you ever have a conversation with talk about it. We both came from. We always tell you know how we we. We make it attended it. We end up talking me. It felt like thirty minute compensates. She talking about like you know. He's obedient <unk>. We taught in the home. You know very interesting. I hit up first questions for you and they came through shit as yadi yada. That's by guy saluda yat melissa. I want salute my young gun america he me so so much on how had to bro ruler you feel so 'cause he's acting was superb he had or he's been to looks of delight. Be comedy person. That's interesting though because you've got more experience in but that's him not to the have as much experience. He came ready to play right. You see what i'm saying so it was just like man appreciate it but whatever i do. It's just gonna be you know what i'm saying so like we both carry that moving we handle and we had the highest ratings on m._t._v. on a saturday and sees so they got a top now nigga fuck we gotta talk smack on a saturday on m._t._v. nickelodeon as soon as i say who have rains on a saturday on m._t._v. algal all right now is how to nick right now stamp redman inheritance about the fact that you've left out of that maybe no i'll think about someone normal young. I want to be and how to win. Bradman the main she come white the hey but once they cut the check in going to be hacked. I got the key road. It ain't my job to be sitting there yelling at assad bright yeah. I got going here and continue to carry magazine. You see what i'm saying about it. We don't make gin have don't worry about it. We i still keep that legacy going and get wit now. Only was how one a mother fucking class but how to get a higher rating on m._t._v. on the saturday disappointed disappointed that it didn't end up being an official theatrical release in movie theaters you don't you don't take the gay personally like day and he really about out at right now. 'cause majority of everything langone digital anyway. It's going to scream got home with yourself and your opportunity is a blessing got to put up tunes in choke on in in in squeeze everything you can. I it was on t._v. Was on t._v. Guess what it was a high rate ends on m._t._v. saturday a sikh years and you got that got you soon what i'm saying so it's like the active as well the resume you'd probably be in there too because when i got on the i kosei that i can say have you got the highest ratings high as ratings on m._t._v. on a saturday in seek years emmy amen trying to find somebody to beat their sheet immediately. You gotta be dish. Let me one of the questions was he said. Ask him about acting high and i'm. I'm not sure if he means. Let me tell you like your higher modding. No you're no no osmo career. We doing move right like people. I will go to cover labra but he was smoking weed. No it was mobile. We gotta sit eddie. You know smoke weed at all. May you now general loses lab. You know but what he was asked asking was about. What was he asking about. You were acting while habit then. You also have to act like you're high. That's the thing i'm high for real and now you've got to act like you aso's like why. Are you know what if not that. You have to act a certain way. You know what i'm saying being half real and having because you got to think about you take you gotta have we'd rolled up mine own debt on it. That's come true for young boy from the hood. They man young young donna but you probably just like the idea again paid to just be in there smoking an act and higher than you actually are being another move man. You know what i'm saying so it's like to in your resume eddie different accolades. Me doesn't bless no double attleboro. Ask them what it was like onset and filming high and working with me also asking them about music bre who sets up these interviews right ask stove it really do foot woman music and he told me he had a holy shit pop no saying we knew she he got going on my blood's a magnificent writer he going crazy so we got some in the word that we've been trying to get emme put together mashhad trauma naming naming. They real moguls. I didn't aruna are you. How do you divide your focus when you got t._v. Projects movies fucking. You're working on your music which probably doesn't always agree schedule allies with russia topped in right now john now go what litvak alabama who do a lot of real big favor of what god and what we got it going on. They go oh but you know like last apple traps. All what's up team. You know what i'm saying so just like trying to capitalize on what i can do. You know what i'm saying. The potential debt reached united. I mean so it's like doing my team row now when when that can't be over there you know what i'm saying feel when i'm over here doing acting somebody's gotta be able to warn the grass on mute so when it's time to go out on my being on music you gotta make sure that i got t._v. Show that's on t._v. Right now doing comedy so i stabbed the moment you know what i'm saying so it's like i can juggle my schedule. You do how i got right now but right now may three different tools and if i south show of sarin ludovico park while now <hes> <hes> hip hop squares outright now two out of everywhere amazon <hes> i got hooked up to out right now shot masterpiece and fabulous amazon in a guy we we don't make things along real good with words man's as our i just agreements no badge out no first of all because i really from the dirt dirt shout on how to not like ain't got no pride. Ah with on the wrong went to have a proper week because exaggerate olympic. We feel like if i will theo s you wrong nigga to actually get a w like i'm tout. I got the w the rest of my life who didn't talk into. Do you ever w checks my nigga. Shut up like i can joke about it yeah. I'm abc keep dig when he had enough. I'm like now. I'll keep digging who i also like was. I did at mass frame like lead man you know but now the industry risk in all the way to work in the industry is not. They have a bad relationship. You know what i'm saying. We brought you feed them. Even we don't see at a at a was going on. I don't want to have a bam relationship with you. Even though you believe you believe to walk out of here blood flow no job for braun disagreements. The best thing that could possibly happen for a podcast like any kind of argument is the best shit right anything else. We're going to disagree about. Let's get into it and you don't want to agree out. It's happened hombre. You know what i'm saying like dealing with the engine. You don't want to have problem with more focus so that's how i just continue to work. Stay prayed up. Jim louisville tap for a possession respect looked like boo boo complaining talented and shit like oh get up like i'm so so could be around tillable and not feel about talent ellen who we got all saying rabble again right. Do you think you're too real for the industry has ever struggle to deal with so many fake. Ask people in hollywood when you're coming from such a humble you just have to you just have to you know what i'm saying. Play for high for what it is is not really just about got to understand this game this year a personal bro. That's why because they tell you what they wanna. I wanna take you because they need you. At the moment you know what i'm saying and when they don't need you know is only eighty what it is you thought it was just viss will be forever. You love me now. It's not like that. You had to take the opportunity in having been key gone. You feel what i'm saying everything on left elbow so that's why i look like it's fake but it's religious game but you got once you any is like your play baccarat baccarat louis roulette on what their boss wants bugged spinning and they spin ball she and what they do has moved movement like that and you can't beat number but you mean you in the gang. Yeah i know talent zero. Come on but why you gotta been on wwl to you got. I've been on our throws a little on there. I'll lay down your love it would he do you play with collec- wraps related absolutely jamie online poker professionally for years. How do you play also easy now. How girlfriends really talked. I don't see why i'm like okay. I win on that last one dating. Somebody else's company a royal flesh. You'll see a lot of royal flushes right so last year to this. Day are still understand really right. I i play chess. You play chess is just amuse to intimidate because all the information is out there on the table and you're playing poker. You're being secretive. The whole goal is that you have something and you don't want to. It'd be basketball. That's why i can't play poker. I'm not real good. A had a great hand is on my chest says just straight up whom my own hand but when i play chess it's more so over the pace magnus or you put us. All honest plan because it's more so is is really teach you by life. Is you gotta be. They've got robots that are better at poker than human beings. I don't even the best froze taught to be. That's scary. You gotta play online poker now. You might be planning a bunch robots but that's what you've been planning. It's a robot since before time even use playing solitaire in nineteen ninety eight and then the robot and they can never know what <hes> not solitaire free so free say. We'd never knew what was just clicking at allows again reaper deeper your minesweeper gas mask where you've got a little bombs and you just click on ads. No i played the minesweeper. I'm kind of g. Gee at that. I'm not gonna what is it like. How did you click click and there's there's numbers and those numbers tell you how many bombs are surrounding that square and so then you you're you're going to clear the entire field using the information that those numbers he's saying you just can't click on the rotman has a bomb. You definitely can't click on that and that's when you die right. That's the big like i was added and the number eight dean dean until i was like nineteen nineteen and then i got so obsessed with it for a couple of months that it really almost made me drop out college basically because i was so obsessed with it i got a real problem with video games but you know i gotta ask about the drought rice ah but in the meantime go smoke lab. Oh gee one zep so you're endorsing a lot of different products. You've got video games. We what else may now which is walking the streets bitches welcome to screw them all. I don't do hair air now but now i definitely have beautiful women and love me around the world that love what i do but now i'm definitely this is my new a up brand out right now. Fuck you me one zip. You guys want to zoom in on that flab. Oh gee is a hybrid. A hybrid mazar auburn is known to man but it's a hybrid. You gotta be smoking rid of flour gee. This is another bet woo. Pat will words we okay so we locked and loaded man. We got a lot of sheet going on own in amateur sean those for she. I guess i say the damn thing whatever the spouse that an email but say a week at a phase out it was career now that i got my own we'd strain. I'm supposed to be telling people to go to the store but my instinct is now like people pound in the trunk you about donald trump nichols. Who's listening blaming newly diagnosed with whatever if i if i get rougher to grant i can accept that for to what to grant or whatever pounds i could deal with it right coming in and put a gun. He'll say why they do that. They just winnie money into trouble. If you rob somebody for a pound you probably need it more than i do. Real talk because the pass would save a lot of people allowed back in the day pound pound with you may if you if you could say pound nova cavalier i brought to deal with the were pack desi dessus essiet essiet so heavy too nigga way got a pound you blow peng koen young what can a lot of winnable poundage coach got nickel bag. I wonder about damn sat on the obamas kibo gibo game monday guy. Hey original off batman. I'll stay down telling them they can go to. Dan dasgupta go to twenty twenty two houses your legendary for so artist right there. Hey man what about imagine like you know what i'm saying. Influence my people and make sure they have been mason is bad him. You know what i'm saying. It'd be a better person. Look you could smoke whatever date that bull hook your problems the way let me ask you some great when you do when you're shows what percentage of the audience is white man. You'll be surprised man. I go too much does and sometimes you don't take your room against now yards. Here's a real nigga depend on the market and then it now like i go to rochester rochester new york. It was a lot <hes> may be the ninety percent nager. Okay get it wrong but it always about skin tone saying we got mexican. You know we got some people like you but you know they. They grew up around roundings for me. Now are your friends. You need us free jimmy <hes> <hes> but now i have some some shows you know they come out. They've got support from everybody man. You know that's the thing you get a wider now version of me tv you get the eighty five south schober. That's what he calls. Go up there with rover. My brother's going crazy then. You actually get me being on state eight by myself where i do stand up by myself. That's a whole other. You know what i'm saying that as a group for everything could you naga got. We own a faster so we we that's another job but we ain't gonna clocking acids and nobody does we own as you. You're going to hear advice advice for all the white boys out there watching those wanna do something with themselves in hip hopper within the culture. I decide to stay true to yourself. Don't try to be some that you wait. You feed me. If you respect the culture. You understand the culture just getting the game because you like the craft you like culture. You know what i'm saying and you wanna understand. Why are we going to even us today. We don't really truly understand entirely all of hip hop. It's so many icons that started this. She wrote that we oversee. You know what i'm saying like the k. i. s. l. cool j mc laughs. You know home saying we need. I broke you know what i'm saying like. I know damn these these <unk> like we gotta studying in understanding in our coach as well but rap hip-hop is would it was bat near st louis today another saint way another gateway to speak on was going on in the black community. You know what i'm saying and that's what it was back in the day. 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TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES w/ Brian Fisher and Drew Miller

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46:32 min | 1 year ago

TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES w/ Brian Fisher and Drew Miller

"Are you looking for your next? Listen Weird thing to say right looking for your next listen. Are you listening for your next thing? Listen to I guess that makes less sense anyways tune into surprisingly brilliant new podcast from iheartradio and seeker. For centuries. Science has given US breakthroughs. That have changed how we view our planet or universe or even our own bodies but achieving these breakers didn't come easy. This podcast will tell you the stories of the Bizarre Journeys Wild Experiments and strange ideas that leads the discovery of important medicine. The invention of life saving technology and evidence about the beginnings of life as we know it find surprisingly brilliant on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay everybody I'm so excited because today we're talking about teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. One of my all time favorites. And I've got a huge guests for this intro. It's master splinter Cowabunga to you Ethan. Cowabunga her no. I'm getting low. So what was it like making this movie? I would like my own broadcast. Okay I mean maybe we can talk about that after I would like it to be called the wise and spiritual teachings of Masters Splendor on tape these. Insurers are usually about a minute. I don't know if we're GONNA have after one or you're just going to jump right into it. Okay Meditation. Close Your eyes. You are in a sewer with me. A big rat by whiskers are touching your face. We are sitting very close. It reeks stone year. It reeks of arches by the turtles to regular be bullish. We we gotta get into the episode but but thanks for joining splinter. Okay I get it. You don't like my podcast. What if I change it? What if it's a food podcast? A food podcast. What does that mean like splendors dinners? I could review. How GARBAGE TASTES? Yeah maybe I'll talk to seeker. Let's just get into the episode. He then what's your address. I'd like to come show. You did the movie right. We have to fight hi. Everybody went to bed science. I'm your host Ethan Edinburgh. And today we are talking about something that. I was absolutely obsessed with when I was little I would demand. My parents took a sword into the back of my underwear and call me. Leonardo it's the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. this is the first movie from. Nineteen Ninety which I remember very very differently. I don't think I've seen it since I was a little kid and I think I'm scarred because I watched it as an adult but let me interview my two guests who I forced to watch this movie. First of all a good buddy of mine. He is the head of comedy content and programming Pandora. It's drew Miller low. Ethan how are you? I'm doing quite well drew. Thank you for joining me today. Thanks for having me. I assume you're also in Los Angeles. I am in Los Angeles also wash film last night and I have a lot of things to say about it so I'm excited to do this podcast with you. Oh fantastic I'm excited to talk to you about it. Man Just choosing even where to start is going to be tough. This movie was all over the place but joining a Drouin. I is the California Academy of Sciences Renowned entomologist and Patterson scholar Dr Brian Fischer greetings. And I must admit I did enjoy the movie to. Oh all right. Had you seen it before I had never seen it I missed most of what normal people do in life than. It's good to catch up on feel like I'm catching up. And is that because you were in places like Madagascar finding different species of insects? Yes I spent a Lotta time traveling and exploring the biological world and somehow this did not show up on my radar as a must see during the nineties. I guess you guys didn't bring like a VHS player and in television and a VHS copy of teenage mutant Ninja Turtles when you're traveling the world. No I didn't even know existed. So thank you for letting me to this very important part of our American culture. Hey listen that's my job man. Yours is to discover new species and probably find who knows cures for diseases based on brand new animals and blood and guts and stuff and I introduced people to movies that barely make sense and must have come from somebody who was like smoking meth. I'm not sure how they invented this this movie and they tried to explain it with like this. I don't even know how to describe it but like the origin story that they do in. This movie is probably the most disturbing part. Would you guys agree with that? That's the best thing. Basically just like a recreation of like a planet earth done by Children Essentially. Yes for obviously the most well done seen in the film next to the rat splinter during the cross estimates master scenes Nazis. Yeah okay. I don't want to dive into the movie too quickly. I have so much I wanNA break down about it but we hold on for one second. Please I love I. I'm just reading Dr Ryan Fisher. Wikipedia near Dr Fisher. Did you know that you have discovered over one thousand species all well? Maybe in the nineties. That might be true but it's a little bit out of date so was covering species in in in my world in. Saxon actually not surprising. So Hammer's wishes I'm just. I've discovered thousands of new species of pants but now we distinguish between discovery. You go out and collect them like I go to the Congo Basin ormat gas garin collected new species versus describing them. And that's actually a much longer more painful process in the secret world of taxonomy a whole field of science. It's been forgotten but practice for over two hundred fifty years and that is very slow. In fact I've only descried dislike less than eight hundred species of ants so I have to go to describe all the new species I've discovered. Wow what is your top three species. Oh great question all the lands. There's just so cool. And they're endemic to Madagascar this one genus Adema and the really hard to find one of the dudes. They're like the Ninja hands of GLOB woke. See Normal stocks. Most ants going. Just give you a two minute via lesson on Ant Hell. Yeah you see. Ants are the collective intelligence they only survived by working together. In fact when you talk about an aunt it's not the individual and that's not the organism. The organism is the colony. And that's the only way to look at a an aunt is through. Its calling in fact if your aunt imagine if you're out in your hungry and it's La it's very very hot and then all of a sudden you see this juicy caterpillar. What would you do. Are you the type that would like say? Hey let's bring some home for the colony all the Gbi that type and I know they're type like this in La that would say hey. I'm hungry by the bill. Collect even more to come. You probably eat it yourself right. I would do a little bit of both right. Yeah I'd take a bite or two and be like okay now I've now I'm full. Let me take back to my people. Were guess what answering food back to the nest. Not because they're like does Buddha on this splinter no because they can't eat food in fact they have to bring it to their stomach. The stomach of an ant colony is actually in the nest. They can't eat solid food adult an today. Empty walking around can't eat solid food. They can only drink de little tiny constriction. The back of their head only allows liquids into their body so they kicked her food back to the nest and feed it to their larva. And this is the point of the story. The larva art fed the solid food. The larva headman will eat it. Digest it and then in almost all aunts. They regurgitated ants. Walk up to it in the colony drink that liquid that's full of all the nutrients which colony needs and they walk around asking all the other ants which were all their sisters and their mom the Queen if they're hungry and if they're hungry they regurgitate from their social stomach and feed the other workers. It's called social food transfer prophylaxis try it at home. I'm not going to try and all right. I'll try with you drew. But that's it so what you're saying. Is that these larva can eat solid food but a normal adult aunt loses the capability to do that. They just can't they. Can't they. Have a construction. Only liquid can get into their bodies so they can drink food and actually have to stomachs that take liquid the social stomach which is what they used to walk around and then regurgitate it and give it to other ants. That are hungry. It's just like our blood system right. How energy through our bodies don't how we get our food from stores to stores across a city. It's the same way they actually have. Transport system social organisms have to have a transport system for energy. In this case. It's the social stomach in ans- take this to the extreme. There's honeypot ants. That actually gets so big and falling with their social stomach that they've become like refrigerators for the colony they hang from the ceiling during that time of like right now when there's not much you can get anything in the covert prime and other ants can come up to it and go. Hey I'm hungry. And they can tap into that refrigerator and get all this nice juice and honey in fact you can actually dig them up in California Arizona where you find them and actually pop them into your mouth. Little bursts of delicious. That is crazy and speaking by the way of how insects eat you. I read a proponent of US. Eating insects is that correct. Oh yes this is kind of taken over my life. Right now because. I just think it's something we have to do. We have to fine new systems for producing food sustain. Were our world are growing world and present you mean just crickets or other Creepy crawlies as well. I think all insects. I think we have to really start imagining new ways of farming insects Efficient ways to produce protein another micronutrients. They don't take much water. They are crudely compact efficient in terms of energy put to to energy output. And you get more product by creating food from crickets than you would from chicken. A pig or cow just make sense especially for places that are experiencing famine Said you get more product so yes so for every kilo or pound of food you give a cow to give same amount of food to cricket or other insect your get six times amount of food that you could eat so you get basically six times the amount of protein crazy by harvesting from crooked than you would from a cow in about three times if it was a pig for example so if I I'm sorry but if I went through your refrigerator and your cabinets are you telling me that I would find today a bunch of insects that you put on a piece of bread or how does this work. I'm farming crickets right now and I actually eat the cricket every morning with yogurt so I actually have ground cricket powder and I mix of yogurt in. Look just like such tele. It's actually delicious. And you can add Muesli to it. And that's how I it's delicious. It's delicious people eat it because it's good tasting. Wow well I think it has a little bit of a chocolate flavor to it. And that's why I think a lot of people like it with yogurt. My God I love chocolate. I've been doing this research recently on the history of edible insect recipes in and a lot of travelers in Africa and Madagascar and like they're sixteen seventeen and later even remarked about the importance of eating insects on the Diet so the local people especially during the Times of drought for example. And they also surprised. Hunger wasn't present in these countries and they saw the Drek wink the fact that they would actually harvest lots of insects like a locust outbreak grind to fall and sex into a powder and it's like stored it doesn't go bad and they can add it to food during that time of stress so they can suit those periods. And that's all been almost lost now that we've come so modern and civilized that we've lost his really important aspect. I WANNA jump back into this because I'm very very curious about it. I could totally see myself putting chocolate cricket powder into a bunch of my stuff but let's jump into these turtles because like I said no I just have to interrupt one second to finish. This storyline unacceptable unacceptable story. I start with the draft land and I'm and I'm so close to finishing own. That's my that's my fault. So this doesn't do that. It doesn't have triple axis doesn't have social food transfer so it has to take food to the nest but the larva when they eat it. Don't regurgitate it so to get food. Through the colony each ant has to come along with the Queen to the Larva fight the larvae until it bleeds and the adults have to drink the blood of their own young WHOA. I'm very glad I let you finish. That's totally disturbing fiction. Movie in and of itself. That's crazy. Yes we've made it so sanitized by calling it non destructive cannibalism. So doesn't sound so crazy when you see it that way. But let's leave the back to the Okay okay. We're hopping into the shell here. Can we can. We have Dr Fisher back and do the movie and smokes not. Yeah Yeah I'm down with that and movies always make the same mistake but they always give them boys names and as the little either said they're all females. They're all sisters working together. I the males are a temporary trivial part of the an story. Yeah similar to humans useless so let us three beings talk about this ridiculous film for a second. I was surprised to learn how much of a humongous success it was. I thought Ninja Turtles were just famous for. I guess as like a animated show. Because I think that's what I used to watch. I knew these movies were out and I knew the comic book comic segment of this or whatever but this movie was humongous. They totally took over. The budget was thirteen point. Five million in May two hundred and two million at the time it was the highest grossing independent film of All time and a bunch of major studios passed on it Walt Disney Columbia Mgm Orion Paramount Warner Brothers all turned down the film for distribution. And I'm sure somewhat regretted that decision. A new line cinema was the one that ended up distributing it and at the time just made like B. Movies and stuff so this I think was a gigantic help for them. Okay secondly I wanted your guy's take on this because something about the plot didn't make sense to me and I know what you're thinking. How is that possible turtles? The plot doesn't check out. Okay follow me on this in case you haven't seen the movie they do like. I mentioned before. This flashback sequence. Right where we see in the sewer like a rat and these little turtles interacting with this radioactive Goo and splinter like saves them. The rat puts them into a jar or can I think he said and they all grow physically and they grow intellectually but then splinter is talking about how before. All of this happened that he learned how to be a Ninja. He learned some sort of Ju Jitsu because he was trapped in a cage with like a jujitsu master. This guy named Yoshi. So can you guys explain to me how he was able to know? That guy's name how he was able to learn karate moves because that was all prior to radioactive goo pollution. That's a great point because that would be my question to Dr Fisher can a rat mimic human movements as in Ninja fighting or any other human movements while this great question and it actually forces I think humans to think about what is intelligence and in what types of forms in life can intelligence take. So I think we're beginning to accept that maybe dolphins elephants Our intelligence and Definitely maybe in. We think also rats to learn thing okay. They've been trained to go through mazes right. So what extent do we say? They're not intelligent enough to learn karate guest or martial arts I don't think there are bad smart but what could imagine if we accept that intelligence is something that we haven't really understood yet the maybe before the glue or the splinter was very careful. Study of this master okay. Great so that checks out Aston answered. I'd be careful saying ou because I think the second movie is all about some sort of. Who's which is different. Okay so what is the extent of that? I don't know I don't remember that movie. And maybe we'll do another bad science about that one. I personally love the third one. I know this is probably GONNA upset everybody but for some reason as a kid I remember watching the third one where they go to like ancient Japan. I think but anyways everyone hated it. I looked it up online and I was like what everyone hate this movie but whatever I remember that one. It's just based on watching this movie. I think there's a lot about it. That would not lie today. Just like there was a few moments in this one was like. I don't know if this would be okay anymore and I think definitely in the third one having not watched. I assume there's a bunch of problems but Speaking of things that are probably not okay. There's like a weird. Did you guys feel weird watching the love story stuff between like Rafael and April and that guy. Casey Jones April interest spaces love triangle. The interspecies love triangle. I thought was not. You're not not for me. I don't know how did you. How did you guys fall on that? They actually following how humans may do it but they didn't follow the way turtle. A turtle approach to the love scene would have been quite differently. Right know what turtles species there mckean. But it's probably a US species in the nineties. I think a lot of people had box turtles are slider turtles in the slider. Turtle would actually The male swims in front of the other of the female and kind of waves. Their hands in head in front of it before Mateen. I didn't see any of that so I would have liked just a little bit of the turtle behavior coming out in this scene of loved. Their April will go for that or a much bigger thing but she seemed very open to new things. Right I mean she was already prancing. Turtle Love I wanNA bring up another weird thing in the movie you just touch touched on with these sort of insensitive to perhaps Japanese culture. So what's a couple? Maybe I was wrong with a couple of liberal sneaky racist jokes here. Yeah and I could be of of being this moment when April getting jumped by the foot the foot gang in the Clinton the subway And they started talking to her and then she responds with behind on my Sony pigments again and they were talking to a Japanese accent. Was that a call out to the jeopardy's and Sony. I didn't really get. I thought it might have been a racist. What was that? I'm I'm with you on that one I don't know how the dock feels about it but I definitely felt like. Ooh That was one of those moments that would would not be cool. Weren't didn't age. Well let's say yes not expecting that. Yeah it's pretty much everything from this time period. There's GonNa be some weird like. Oh Jesus why say that was a kids movie? I joke for the adults or something. Yeah I think there were a few parts that were like jokes for adults. Just didn't make any sense really. I mean not that it was a joke but that whole obviously the Inter species love stuff is just weird overall. We can all agree but even just the human human weird loves. I don't even know if I WANNA call it love story but just like sexual tension between Casey and April. I was like what is this. Why do we need this? We don't So I have a bunch of science questions here doc I got. I got a lot of turtle questions so I know. It's not your super expertise but if you could weigh in I know you have a passion for turtles first off. I feel like I had a few friends when I was little. I don't know drew viewed it also. They had turtles as pets. So do turtles make good pets? I mean I know they're endangered. Should we not have them as pets because they are adorable? So how does that work? Well Yeah I think one bad or downside of this movie was that the kind of trade turtles As these lovely little things that we should all have and I did see some information that it did cause a lot of people go out and buy turtles and then they got tired of them and they tried to flush the toilet on my good guess. What TURTLES ARE NOT ISSUE? They have to breathe. Air questioned him down. The toilet isn't really the right thing to do. Are you saying people in Mastro's drown a bunch of turtles because of this movie? How can you flesh by baby once? And then they got like. I don't want this thing. That's crazy but turtles are endangered. So the idea of going out and collecting a turtle and bring them inside and do they make very friendly competitors is I guess as much as maybe even more than a crocodile does alligator. But you know in terms of as a long term companion. It's popping up the best pet together. I think cats would probably be better. Yeah I have two cats and I wouldn't trade them for a million turtles. No offense to the turtle species I did you have you. You know what I'm talking about though right drew didn't people have like I don't know if it just because we were kids or something but I feel like everyone had turtles. I had a pit verbal. My friends were cool so turtles but you guys have had some interesting but you had a pet turtle you said duck. I had a pet turtle and a pet came and pet. Caiman alligator And I've had it was crazy for like fifteen years until I got giant and then became very problematic to feed it got loose in the house. And what get's giant came would disappear in our house for weeks and we didn't know where when hang out and then I'd hear my mother screaming in the in the shower in the morning when she walks into the shower and she greets a came in. They're trying to get some water. My God you're a wild man. That's insane you back. Then it was combined for fifty cents at a pet shop in Arkansas. If you wanted to know the good old days yeah backman you can buy flour cool their local pet shop or give bad fish and we'd all the kids would come over and watch me feed it actually brought at the high school and then use it as an excuse me out of class all the time. I would come to the door and knock on the door and say you're came and got loose and I'm GonNa have to leave the class. Dammit I can't do this math test right now came in in the cafeteria and what came home. I WanNa tie something back to you. Said flushed down the toilet. Maybe that's how the turtles ended up in the sewer because I never said how they ended up there. Oh so perhaps that is the sort of resolve. People flashing their The turtles that'd be my guess. I'm not sure. How do they end up in the sewer? Dr Fisher in the movie. Explain it right. I guess I'm guessing the same thing that was a very common thing to flush your pets down on the toilet. I guess we're the hell did that. Start why would anyone flush alive thing down the toilet if you go up? You'll see lots of interesting things Oh my gosh yes people do it. We're GONNA take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey bed scientists Ethan here and I'm going to tell you about a new podcast. I'm super excited about called surprisingly brilliant. It's another secret podcast. So if you like this podcast you're GonNa love surprisingly brilliant. It's hosted by Greg Foot and Merrin Huns Burger. It's a podcast that tells you the Bazaar Journeys Wild Experiments and strange ideas that led to the discovery of important medicine. The invention of life saving technology and evidence about the beginnings of life as we know it. There's an episode about Eighteenth Century American scientists who subjects himself to grim and grotesque experiments in order to try to find a cure for yellow fever. They have episode about Nikola Tesla. That's amazing the involved in gambling. There's big walls of electricity anyways. Don't forget listen to surprisingly brilliant on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast and surprise yourself with what a brilliant decision that was. That's not their tagline. I just said that to try to conclude this whole thing and I'm GonNa give myself a C. Minus THE BRIDGES OVER HERE. We go about science. What about what they eat? I mean this is the big question on everybody's mind right. Can TURTLES EAT PIZZA? I think in their stomach. They can actually absorb anything boots turtles. I mean other turtles say. They're investigating anything. Do they like pizza? Okay well that's a different question. They definitely like pizza. Oh they definitely like pizza. So that's we don't even have to think about to be honest. I mean turtles. They can eat vegetables like fruits but they kind of walking around all day long but they also can eat meat so if you had like a fish so get like an showbiz pizza. Think that'd be great. I think wow okay and you said they might eat other turtles. Is that a common thing. Why would they do that? Well I just remember having a bunch of snapping turtles and then one day there was one less imagined. Somebody ate my little snapping turtle. What about the show? The eat no way well. I think like alligators crocodiles. You can just stop anything into their stomachs and part of it will get digested not but these were maybe a snapping turtles so their shelves. We're not conclude as hard as a giant. You Know Galumph is turtle so let's talk about the show then for a second. I read a little bit about it. I know there's like an upper shell. The carapace or carapace in the lower shelves is the plaster on I. I hope that we can come up with pneumonic to remember that because I do love both of those terms and I didn't know that there's like two pieces to every shell but I also read that they have like nerves embedded into them and blood vessels so like they can actually feel pain from their shell and they'll end the shell will bleed. Which I thought was really interesting. But so you're saying also that it grows with them. There's like some sort of myth or people just believe they find new shells like snails. Do but that's not the case right now and that's not the case and it's a bone right so it's growing just like our bones grow In Our lifetime. It's just that their bones mostly on the outside on the skin over the bones and that during the bone and the skin there can be nerves and blood vessels for example. Wow and they just grow the same way. Our bones grow against. Yes and it's it's an amazing feature right. That's has its limitations. They're they're approaching the style of evidence. Right where you have a giant beetle and the great thing about Beatles that they can lift amazing amount of weight because they're insects because they're they're skeleton is on the outside in all the juicy parts muscle suffer inside in. This is basically the kind of vertebrate equivalent of insects pitting a shell the skeleton on the outside but the limitation of insects way. Don't find giant insects. Is that because it gets heavy after awhile. And there's some danger you know Of Rolling over never getting back up because it's just so heavy and that can happen turtles too. Yeah Okay I wrote that down also that is a joke and I think that third movie the one that I like weirdly worse one of them falls and he says like fallen and I can't get up so you're saying that that is legitimate. Turtles can't flip themselves over. Well at certain size they can't do that. The young ones Canada more flexible in their skeletons. Not so they're not so. Why can we get his growing with time? So maybe in the third movie aged have gotten bigger and it's harder for them to turn over but the movie we saw looked like they were still nimble enough that they could turn themselves over. Okay so there's still somewhat young in this their teens. They definitely teams. Yeah I don't turtle do in the real world. If it was on his facts it would just have to be like that for Dis may die or or Jesus is intelligent Wednesday could probably talk to each other and help but in the real world now. They're stuck wow sounds. Yeah that is super annoying. Like what a terrible part of the shell which seems so cool but then man is up by you in the butt you end up on it. Which is one of the reasons. Why sadly Multiple eight these things you can distort them quite easily You just have to go out into the you know. They're they're not all turtles tortoises which are are related group of animals on and they can just take those and turn them over and then the basically stationary stack them up on your ship as your sailing around the world and just kind of pull went on and as you go along. Oh my sadly that's how a lot of the large tortoises disappeared and continue to disappear like Madagascar people just today still eat turtles and tortoises. Yes it's it's a huge problem. It's going to be why a lot of these uniform tortoises of Madagascar disappear because You can just now with cars driving around these roads and just every time you see when crossing stop to get thrown back and do they blake. I. This is a terrible question. Probably but they eat them raw or cook them or the COOKHAM also upset trade which allows him also to be shipped easily to Sammy's but not in Madagascar. It's the pet trade in eating them. That's driving them to extinction another reason to eat cricket. Exactly the turtles alone we always have in Madagascar biodiversity focus for our edible insect projects in the south. It will mean to try to also save the tortoises there by farming edible insects to give an alternative food source and income to these people. And is this the main reason that they're so endangered because it's like all species of turtles and tortoises are like endangered? Right I guess probably some of the more common ones like the sliders. I'll be odd. But almost every tortoise in Madagascar's endangered may really can't run away from the third just so easy to collect visit mostly due to people eating them or is there other. I don't know other reasons that they're hunted or has like climate change screwed them as far as you know in and Predator that each turtles there are but I think that's a major threat habit. At transformation growing human populations combined with the pet. Trade is driving choices in turtles extinction. Okay so stop having pet turtles everybody now and if you do have on right now don't flush it down the toilet like an idiot. You know this movie came out today. You would hope that one of the producers would have gotten on board with preserving tortoises or some of the funding toward that. You know the the Madagascar movie that came out of Madagascar. They did donate some money to support some Lemur research and Medical Oscar. But that's cool. You would think they're still obliged in a sense you'd think The Ninja Turtle Industry. If they should also you know have an offshoot. That's actually saving turtles. Maybe twenty fourteen the remake. On an your anything about donating to the turtle 'cause but perhaps a wo- Michael Bay should we get him on the Horn or was Michael Berry? I think all yep drew just google it and figure out how to get him on the on the line here. Please no problem okay. Expect at any minute now because I have some deep questions for him They haven't evolved much right. They've been here for like forever. It's like some species have been here for over two hundred fifty million years. I read and I assume that they're pretty much the same so if the becoming endangered like why haven't they evolve to Spitfire? It's it's an amazing thing this concept of time with evolution and in the morphological appearance of things. So you're right at this kind of form. Charl just like the alligator crocodile hasn't really changed much while other things are kind of quickly adapted involving in their lineages quite short because they'd devolved into something different but we keep calling turtles turtles in cardinals crocodiles because they look the same but they're still evolving. They're adapting all the time but not just Morphological and wide. Some lineages or or groups of organisms evolve faster morphological than others is a huge mystery in science. And we're just now beginning to get a glimpse of how natural selection is linked toward morphology and duration of lineage through time. So but it's it's a fabulous question. Hey thanks I don't know who listen to the soundtrack those vanilla ice and actually deuce Spitfire on that. So Oh I need to listen to that. No I mean maybe I would recognize it but no I do not know works eibar that soundtrack actually had it when I was a kid who was a red tape and we listened to all the plan. That is a actually a time soundtrack. Really good stuff and C. Hammer. How of Nila is of a lot of good defense on man? Everybody jumped in to help the turtle. I saw some videos of turtles making noises. You guys have experienced listening to a Turtle. Sound like it's really weird like when they're mating. Oh my gosh. That's incredible recreate themselves. I'll leave that to the I don't know what the mating of tortoises in particular go on a very long time and there's a lot of grunting going on and goes on for days and days. Yeah it's it's quite disturbing when you're in the forest in Madagascar for example in the south in this habitat called spiny Bush and all day all night. You hear this kind of granting going on and you know what's happening there breakfast there at lunch there. They stay awake for days. Mating on and it's like the they. I'm sure to expert will provide some more background on this in my censor their basically Trying really hard of course but also guarding against other males from coming over and made it so well some of them sound like they're like a dog some of them. I heard they were kind of like wolfing and embarking and then some of them sound like a chicken also they're like clucking but I just had no clue you know. Before I was looking it up I was like yeah. I wonder what turtle sounds are and I couldn't think of even how to start but they differ there's like all different sorts of Of sounds really but what I what I have fixed it in my head though is watching the strain on the on the heads you know. The male is completely extended their head and stretching and and and try and it makes the mail of very old nail when they're doing that so it's time for them to observe. I don't WanNa get graphic on the potty but it takes them daily basically Jackie late. Is that what we're saying. I'll have to look. I assumed that with multiple times within the couple so I imagine that Iran. So there's some sort of weird tortoise turtle tantric sex going on in the wilderness. Is that what you're saying? Let's heard when I'm in the forest and find at times disturbing when you go to look at them you watch them you like. Oh my gosh. The male tortoise always looks much older in that position than team. Probably really is Sounds really hot. There's no segue here so I read that they can turtles the leatherback sea turtle which can weigh up to two thousand pounds and that some species can live to be one hundred fifty years or older so is that real and also why can they live longer than us. What are they doing that? We're not is it the days of sex yet. Maybe turtle that's usually just a minute of sex in their life span of one hundred years. It's everything's slowed down. Should we just eat boots and turtles like they do in? That'll that's the secret to longevity of life yet. It isn't impressive to see these large. You know ocean turtle or a land tortoise like Galapagos Tortoise And they can live super long Days they're often given as gifts to that island or that prince so that president does gifts live on forever. Often go to the zoo in Cedar. Glop is tortoise. Zoar Madaba or from Orissa given this tortoise was given gift seventy years ago. It's still alive. Impressive other the animal that lives the longest. Probably not but that does seem like a long time. Which would be you know sharp. No I know how old ants can run in How long can ans- let you chime in? How old can answer live? I feel it can't be a very long time. I I'M GONNA say three weeks in sixteen years they up to like forty years. Wow how clean years holy crap. It's like a tree. That workers are expendable like leaves. They live maybe two years at most but the Queen is in the colony pressing more and more eggs all the time More lease incense can live like forty forty five for certain kinds of reading here. That a whale is the longest living thing but then there's like a jellyfish but they call the immortal jellyfish that doesn't count so sharks and whales then number five. It says is the tortoise so Galapagos Tortoise that you were talking about which was given as a gift which I think is probably a terrible idea and bad for their habitat. I also if you guys want to see a picture of a really scary turtle. There's an alligator snapping turtle which is like the opposite of what I think about in my head when I say turtle which is like a small cute turtle and then these guys are like that on bath salts. It's like huge and scary and I couldn't look at it for more than fifteen seconds. I just found a turtles fact or fiction quiz of line. Maybe we can do ten point. You guys got it okay. So basically instances on non MECHANICA DOT COM and. Start the clears. It might be for children. But we have thirty seconds. Each of six to answer each question. I will read the question out and Ethan you WanNa Give Your answer Dr Fisher Yeah and it's basically just factor fiction events have questioned one. All turtles have hard shells fact or fiction fiction outside either through a second okay. I was leaning towards fixing just out of the way it was written fiction and that is correct. Next question. Turtles can catch the cold. Wow Topical Oh my God I I wanna say no well. It's it's a virus of you. Exemplify a lot of viruses. Could they be kept by a turtle? Why not go with that? Yeah Baptist correct sorry Tim. Smallest Turtle lives in Africa factor fiction. Oh Oh okay. I thought that was like detail about the smallest turtle lives in Africa after ten seconds. Shirt fact False it was fact Ethan doctor on this one Bam NBA degree. There are about twenty species of turtles factor fiction out man. I WANNA say fiction and hope that there's a lot more I would say fiction too. Yeah that feels like fiction. Correct next question. A turtles have very sharp teeth. I mean it's kind of subjective but whatever yeah very short typic- yeah fact. They don't have to question. Well yes trick questions. You got smoked. Ethan that's dammit hurdles cannot run factor fiction man. This is another one where I wanNA guess fact but I wanNA root for turtles and give them the opportunity to run in my mind. So I'm going to say fiction fiction the ever put a box turtle outside instead said hey go get into run faster than you can is correct awesome. The oldest turtle is about fifteen years old back fiction no. I now know that that it's fiction fictional. Does all hell. This is an interesting one. The first turtles evolved about two hundred million years ago Florida. Yeah that's a pretty Internet fact. Yeah correct this is the perfect time to do a quiz because we just for bugging half hour. We got one wrong. That's question last question here. We go knee last question. Turtles can see in color fact or fiction. I'm GONNA say fact. I think that they would need good site. that's ten seconds. Fake seven hours. All okay there is like I is. I said they say color color. It was fiction. Oh with black and white what are we talking about vigilant not follow the black and white man okay. That's a bummer. A bonus question. Can I ask one bonus question? Yeah Yeah Bonus. The rotten tomatoes score for this movie was higher or lower than fifty percent. This is the tomato meter not the audience score. What's the difference? What does that mean? I think that's the critics consensus mixed with. The audience was higher lower than fifty fifty tomato meter. I'M GONNA say low below fifty. I'm going to say lower to give me. I guess it was forty. Forty two DR. Okay thirty nine but the audience must spend like ninety. Wow via real answer was forty percent on the tomato. Meter wins by one percent. Got Me Audience. Score eighty one percent critics consensus. Okay go ahead. Teenage mutant Ninja. Turtles is exactly as advertised. One liners brawls and general silliness. Good for the young at heart irritating for everyone else. Wow I mean that's pretty accurate so I mean especially experiencing it now both ways like loved it when I was young at heart which is young and then now as an adult. It was like there were there were. It was tough. It was tough to get through. I felt bad being such a fan. I had Ninja Turtles. Everything Man. I had Ninja turtles clothes and underwear and lunch boxes in the toy. I had it all same. Salmon dressed up for Halloween Action dressed up as the player. I saw the from the from the movie while Casey Casey Jones exactly wasn't that his name okay. Anyway we're running out of time here. We got to wrap it up. I can't thank you guys enough for being on the program. Drew what would you? What would you like to tell people about working? They find you know what's going on with Pandora. Thanks Ethan You can find me all over the Internet and places but more importantly If you're a standup comedy fan you should be listening to stand up comedy radio on. Pandora you any artist you liked Thompson. Garay Schumer Kevin. Hart you name it. You start a comedy radio station on Pandora and we will play joke after joke after joke based upon that artist It's a great way to stay light to last of to waste time in these times. Such a foreign teen so download Pandora. If you don't have it and start a comedy station. That sounds great. Can people also look forward to hearing like comedy music on that Station because a lot of people really love funny songs right? Yeah that's great. You ask actually this comedy man and recommend called the Kuti's have you heard of them. No no that sounds super cool. Pandora I would go on. Pandora just started hootie station. You'll get a bunch of other songs they have. I think they have potential. I don't love their personalities of the people in the band have potential man. He's a huge entertained. Yeah that sounds really cool really hipped. Okay Dr Brian Fisher. What's going on at the CAL Academy well? The Cal Academy is closed. So that's a good place to go right now. But in this time of social distancing I think based on our discussion today would be great to think about nature embracing time That we often forget that we are part of nature we are animals and we are connected and there is no US versus nature. Were part of the same. So what happens out? There happens to us so let's not forget about that connection during this period of relation. Wow that is beautifully. Said could not agree with it more and yeah just to review. I guess stop flushing stuff down the toilet alive and be sure to eat insects. That's like the new cool thing that all the smart people are doing drew told me he's going to start doing that right. Yeah of course now. I'm doing that for lunch. Ended to help you get jacked up. Because they have a bunch of protein right right well and we can eat ants. Doctor is that okay you can eat. Ants insects are great. No matter what they're great for the Gut microbiome the great for the micronutrients. They're great for the planet. Greg Okay there you go. Don't watch this movie and eat a bunch of insects. Thank you guys for joining me on the show and we'll see you next time later by bad signs is hosted and produced by meet Edinburgh. Our associate producer is. Emily felt. Our engineer is Jeremy Schmidt. Bats is is edited by Lucas Bolinger and our social media is managed by blue whale media. Shout out to Jane. Kate and the executive pizza did do. Sir Is Kushner follows on instagram. At bad science show. 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S2E2: How I Became CMO of Sequoia Capital with Blair Shane

The New School with Christine Hong

36:20 min | 1 year ago

S2E2: How I Became CMO of Sequoia Capital with Blair Shane

"I advise people to say well. You regret not trying this next job. If you work hard and have done a good job you can typically go back to your old job or employer. You can always go backwards that the only way to go forward is too weak new school. This is the new school with your host Christine Welcome to new kinds of school where we talk about career paths. You don't normally get to hear about in the classroom every episode. I talked to someone with an interesting life path and learn about how they got to where they are today. Hey guys happy Monday. I'm your host Christine Hong in gun. Amazing guests for you today. I'm so honored. She agreed to be on our show. Blair Shane has been the CMO of sequoia capital want a top venture capital firms. Sandra Business School and Cal Academy of Science. I've always wondered what it's like to be on top of the career ladder a C. Suite executive a large successful company and today she explains what that's like episode Blair goes over. What you think's a good her path to becoming a CMO and gives advice on how to grow brands for we start. I just wanted to drop a note at his interview was recorded before the outbreak of nineteen in the US and does reflect pre quarantine conditions Blair. Thank you so much for being on the show. I really appreciate you taking the time today. It's an honor. I think that this podcast team will be so helpful to so many people. I guess I am interested in how you even got into marketing. A career what about appeal to when you started you know. It's a really good question. And to be honest. I was just drawn to running and growing businesses. My first marketing job after graduate school was in package goods. I was actually trained at General Mills. That's the place that does all of the kids cereals so I was. I put on the team running total cereal and then I moved to developing a Yo play yogurt products and then I actually help. Start our vending and convenience store business or things like checks Maksim bugles and fruit snacks and marketing. General Mills was defined as running a fifty million dollar business or brand like total and so my core responsibilities included everything from advertising to packaging to product development even nutrition and then forecasting and pricing and so given that start. I think of marketing as go to market. Not just with I think a lot of people think of as just branding or PR or even demand. Gen in the valley. How did you end up at General Mills where you just looking for a marketing position at the time? You know. It's really a question I wasn't I was looking to run a business. So when I was at Stanford Business School I thought about leaving to start my own business. I interviewed there before I graduated and what I loved about it. Is You had the ability to run a business within with the safety net of a big company it literally just happened that at general mills running. Business was quintessential marketing. That's how I ended up doing marketing. Oh okay in. That became your focus. It did exactly. Why did you leave? General How did you decide what to do next as a really good question so my husband and I went to different graduate schools and so we ended up in Minneapolis. Which is what General Mills is. He's also from the East Coast and I'm from the West Coast and we wanted to start our lives together and kind of a neutral place but about three years. Rick Who's an investment banker? He was working at a company called Piper. Jaffray got a great opportunity to do banking and research and San Francisco and my family is from San Francisco and Rick's families from Hartford Connecticut. And Talk to tell you the truth. There's just a lot more opportunity in the bay area for dual career couple and we do that at some point. We wanted to have kids and it would be really nice if we were both working to have family nearby help out that makes a Lotta said. Why did you decide to stay in marketing? Instead of doing your own business at the time I have to admit I was just risk averse. I actually regret it's the one thing my business career that I regret. Not Training for kids was starting my own business. I just decided to stay because after running those brands I got so much great opportunities to when I came back to the Valley I was able to get great very big marketing jobs at a couple of startups and then from there I was able to get a great job at Charles Schwab so it just fed on each other and I think maybe you know at the point where I wanted to become a mom being co founder and a new mom at the same time as just a heavy left. What do you think makes a good marketer? So at the end of the day marketing is it a go to market. It's about how you acquire customers and then build loyalty so a few things can really help. Make you a good marketer. I think the first and most important thing is understanding the customer Mitt sound so basic but market research and really honing in to that customer. Pain point the first thing that every marketer should understand the second thing is building a product that meets that customer pain and believe in it with all your soul. Go to the ends of the Earth to improve your product. So listening and empathy skills and then have a balance of creative and analytical skills to both improve that product for organic growth and then when you market meaning you promote or you share messaging to try to attract new customers. It's important that you both try novel methods at the creative skill but then you also analyze the results so that you can hone that strategy and put more dollars towards the things that are working. I'm the last thing I'll say for any rules. Being really good manager and leader so the end of the day marketing like every other business function as about leading teams and helping to set direction and then recruiting and hiring. The best people are also critical skulls. Yet find the work are skills. Needed differ for different types of businesses. Or is it pretty similar? I think it does different. Some people believe that you use the same playbook over again. I believe the best marketers are passionate about connecting the product or service with their target audience and every product conservatives in every target audience differ. So I believe that that playbook should vary you know there's a few skills that span both B. to B. and B. Two C. You like brand and positioning NPR. But the weight of the other things should various differ B2b requires better content marketing and analysts relation skills or things like account based marketing. Where if you're running a consumer business or product you're gonNA heavy up on brand and social. The list of the levers is I would probably say seventy percent the same but depending on where you are in the stage of Your Business and what your audience is. You may play them up or down. I'm actually kind of curious. So based on these things you look. You have certain interview questions you prefer. It's so funny. I actually didn't article about this. I acquire so I always like to ask someone. They failed and what they did about it. Or you know. What's Your Development Area? What's your biggest weakness mostly because everybody's human has a strength. I think the other thing is what you WANNA do. And five or ten years and seeing how people answer that I think is really compelling as well just to see what the job you're offering is aligned. In some way to helping them achieve their dream I always ask the question of. What do you need from a manager to help make you successful? What do you look for and then I just asked him to describe something. They're most proud of and why? Yeah those are really good questions. Was there any answers over to the best? Interviewees are those who are willing to share with the person hiring them what they most want in the world's what could help them get there and maybe what they're afraid of because we spend eighty percent of our days at the office with our co workers and trying to achieve really big meaningful work and so getting to that level is pretty important if you choose to have a lean team of star is all working together to achieve a common goal will lose the path the Cmo like you always think you would become chief exact one day you know. I never really if people ask me what I would want to do in my life. It's still the same three things it's to be a CEO or actually to be a peace negotiator so CMO is not anymore there but CMO is a way to achieve actually all three of those things so in many of my roles in involved significant amount of influence management. Both with the people that I worked with and the various targeted audiences that I was trying to approach. You're always teaching as a manager or the best managers teach and like I said my approach to marketing is the more traditional product price promotion placement ones. It's just how you run a business. But in general I followed my passion and my husband gave me some of the best work advice about you know my career. Probably about fifteen years ago when he was saying you're gonNA regret not trying and so basically now. I advise people to say. Will you regret not trying this next job if you work hard and have done a good job can typically go back to your old job or employer right? Rarely will they not hire you in so just never regret not trying because typically if you've done a good job you can always go backwards but the only way to go forward is to leak? I was wondering if to jump to chief executives if you own any different than a normal promotion. It didn't because I think I've always been driven to Kinda change the world and make it better. I mean even my essays to Business School were actually about reforming the Department of Education. I just thought I'd always work my way up for a for profit company and then lateral over. I tried to do the best job that I could. I mean I think as you progress in your career you should always listen more. It's kind of counter intuitive. But listen more coach more. Tell people less what to do and really inspire greatness within your team. I think those were the biggest things and I think the other things that really matters is chief EXAC helping your team set a clear vision and then focus to achieve it cool next year kind of like to dive into like the peculiar brands. You've built from scratch or rebooted. How did you figure out the strategy for these brands? So it's interesting in the last fifteen years or so of my career. I've spent my time helping great brands. Not Rest on their laurels and to modernize them. So somehow I've been identified as a change agent who could help move the California Academy of Sciences which is the Museum of Natural History in San Francisco or Stanford or even sequoia push forward so the number one thing to do in those rules is to really understand what is essential to the culture to the brand the business that you must hold onto for dear life and protected. The second thing is to figure out what you need to cut off. What is no longer serving business or brand? Well and really be clear about what those things are literally cut it off like you would appendage and then the third part of that is being super creative and brainstorm what you need to do a modernized the brand and then add that to it. So it's really a three prong process of holding on for dear life to what matters letting go of what doesn't serve you and then make the leap to try some new things to modernize brand early in my career when I worked on New Products Like Yo Pay Yogurt. Key Lime Pie flavor or the fruit snacks variation. It was more of traditional. Identifying customer needs building the product and then building advertising and marketing to support it and each case different each and every time like I said earlier on. There's not one playbook. Yeah that's what I figured. Surely curious about when you join cowed Kademi Science. Yeah I'll did you decide what to do when you join. So I joined about fourteen months before the relaunch and we didn't have anything in place and so lot had to do with building the basics of the brand and the way finding and the pricing and things of that nature and then the number one kind of innovative thing that we did as a lot of people said Oh people will just come and I took the approach is saying no the first moment the first day that first year of this new museum needs to signal that it's new and also need to signal that there's more demand than supply because then that will create a halo so that people will want to come to the museum for years after the opening so I think the biggest innovation was looking at the opening like a true commercial product launch and served the museum really. Well it was hard to manage the crowds but it definitely helps drive membership and utilization of museum for a very long time which was great. We held on to things like the penguins are the steinhardt aquarium but we also really reinforce new features like the rainforest or instead of doing fixed pricing we did variable pricing for the first time for museum and created things like nightlife which was the program for people. Twenty one to thirty who typically are museums target but it was able to cultivate the next generation. I museum goers yeah I really wanted to talk to you about nightlife. Actually how did you think of? It are designed it was really a business metric. Most of the is business was from membership which was typically parents with kids. And that's great and all but you really need to cultivate those people well before their parents with children and so also nightlife was a way to leverage the museums footprints and capital in the evening which typically wasn't used and so we just created a model and a product operating that would attract people to come with their friends every Thursday night. And the Nice thing is that now. That's been in place for well over ten years now. All of this folks at that age are now parents with kids. Do now are coming. So it's a nice full life cycle at the museum now offers yeah. I'm honestly so impressed by that. Because I remember interning in San Francisco in two thousand fourteen and it was like the ultimate date spot on Aga ever thought of to go and be like Oh chicken night live. The new seemed like kind of lake sophisticated. Twenty-one close and there's alcohol the brand that we worked on there we were combining the words hip and intellect. There weren't really anything in the city. Where if you were kind of a doric like me. You could go and have fun. We called it this hip intellect and it worked which is nice. Yeah so my friends were twenty at the time so we really literally talking about using fake. Id's to get into nightlife another. GonNa work though. But anyways how did you approach when you join Stanford Business School when you're seem what was your Shijie there? I'm curious you know it's really not that different Stanford's brand a school is to change lives. Change organizations changed the world and what we were doing things. That's actually pretty modern and novel for our business school but the manifestation of it was sometimes old kind of Fuddy duddy so we updated the brand and actually we had the opportunity to launch. They'll night had given money to launch. The new buildings called the Knight Management Center and much like the Academy we use that opening launch to also launched the brand and in doing so that actually became the trigger to do things like update the alumni magazine and launched new entrepreneurial offerings and other markets. How do you decide how to split the budget? Or what the focus on like what will make the most impact you know. I would say in every great marketing strategy. You have to be able to really measure. Are you getting new customers? I think that's the first thing. So how do you measure your customer acquisition? And before that it's how do you measure your awareness? And so certainly having a keen understanding of what you are based awareness. Metric is and then how it's evolving. I think secondly. How do you acquire new customers? But then thirdly is there turn in your customer base in your experience your product experiences service experience. Are you able to keep them? And then I think for man. It's how do you drive loyalty? So you may have heard of things like net promoter score because in general you WanNa Leverage your customer base to drive new customers to refer them and I think the last two things that I would look at our reputation management because that will be your baseline awareness inbetween product news and the last thing that people rarely think of is. Do people want to come work for you? A lot of companies don't think of marketing to their employees or marketing to prospective employees in the world of technology. The number one competitive advantage advantages that people who work for you and it also helps lead to speed to market and so if you don't have a strong employer brand it ends up being very hard to have a strong customer rant. Yeah that makes sense because you wanNA future employees in the PR right. I mean there's so much competition for talent. You need to find a way to distinctively attract talent who want to help build your business were. They'll just go somewhere else. I guess for Cal Academy of Science. You can see initiatives bring in people buying tickets I imagine for Stanford Business School you can save. Initiative gets more people apply to business school there yet. How did you measure success for Sequoia capital? It's a quietly probably only make about thirty investments a year but at the end of the day we don't want to miss looking at a single founder or new company and so the key there was twofold. I think I at least for me. My focus was on our existing founders. How do I make them? And their companies most successful and the reason for that. Is there the best referral source? So that's an example. Where taking care of your customers is still important. Because at the end of the day you know from the work you do. If you're going to look for funding for your New Business. Who are you going to ask for their advice? Fellow founders so. I really focused on products and programming. That would help our founders in their succeed and in doing so at that would lead to new business. Russ I think the second thing is making sure to modernize the brand and the messaging of sequoia so that we would get a chance to look at every new company. I feel like I would fail if there was a great new company aware. Our investors didn't get chance to talk to the founders. So making us feel approachable and also helpful to really. Early stage founders. 'cause sequoia prides itself of always being in what we call the pre seed and seed business. And then working with those super. Early Company is all the way through IPO and beyond so we measured it on the number of seed stage companies that wanted to talk to us even before they may be even needed funding. How did you achieve goal once making sure? The existing founders were supported. I mean it was actually two very different ways. One is in what I would call the spoke help. How could me or the investors helped them and their companies with individual problem solving or growth opportunities. So that could be helping them with. Launched helping them in a crisis situation helping them higher. That was first and that's obviously very specialized to each and company and then the other way was how am I eighteen? Much more scalable ways that had to do with connecting founders with founders and building community. There's a few as sequoias done that. One is through events so we have an event called base camp where we take all of our founders camping or it really gives founders and opportunity to reflect in connect with each other and certainly we bring in great speakers and deliver great content and then from there. We started what I would call founder boot camps. A program called aunt with stands for amplify mobilize and propel it's like a ten week intensive where our founders really young companies that seed and series as companies come together and they meet every Thursday for four hours in the evening going through critical business building concept and then they get to connect with each other at the end of the day. Most founders have the skills that need they just need the support of a great network to help them solve problems in the moment to those were a couple of ways that we built loyalty either very specific or building community interesting. Is that how you try to stand out from other brands? Those are two ways that we really do. Try to stand out. I think the other way is just. We have a very small dedicated team. That's all in we think of ourselves partner versus an investor and will stand by you through each stage of the journey and we also have expertise at each stage of the journey as it really does vary depending on where you're at for goal to. You're saying you want to make sure no companies that were awesome like didn't apply to quite. You're like one atop the companies. Do you actually have trouble with? I would say we have trouble in that. People may not want to come meet with us before they feel like. They're ready because they really in many cases. May WanNa work with US. But they feel like they want to be perfect and that in fact is the worst thing because we can actually be most helpful when companies are still rough around the edges. And I don't think it had anything to do with us. Sides the fact that a founder sees brands like airbnb or dropbox or Google. And they think Oh. I'm not done yet. But those companies. Were you know two or three people in our offices when they first started so. I think it's telling those stories that it's never too soon to start with sequoia and then also being helpful to them even prior to going into business with those companies that makes sense. I don't think I would even think of talking to sequoia unless I had at least a million users or something and that's detrimental to our business to because we don't want you to wait that long because we can probably help you get to those million users. So when's a good time? So what stage? I think. Obviously it depends. You don't have to have product market fit yet. You have to have a compelling market size and a great team ambition and so that's all important but know that we can help with product market fit and know that we can help with early scaling. Well my podcast is a very new breads any marketing advice for me. That's such a good question. I think the first thing that I was noticing his get all your guests to promote their episodes. I think that that's a really important thing. Because if you think of the podcast world there's so many right it's competing and so I would make a specific ask of your guests to share it with the people who would find the new school valuable and I think the last thing is I would just get on the list. So when I google best podcast for creative elements or college students or up and comers so I would identify the managers of some of those lists and get on them and then just make sure that you're not shy about asking those of us who want you to be successful to to sing. Your praises does such a great idea. I would just make sure that people know you exist. And that they're advocating for you back to being CMO you've been a three companies now. We're curious days. You know what I love about. Marketing is every day is so different in varied -ness of it is the thing that makes it so fun. At Sequoia it could have been the beginning of the day I could be working with founders. At Our boot Camp I could be advising them on go to market or I could be working with coil limited partner or a member of my team helping them with their career so no day was the same but I think every day tied to our business schools whether it was attracting the next generation of founders helping them be most successful serving our limited partners or growing our employees so I think every executive should take a look at how they're spending their time and it should somehow be tied to the primary business objectives built specially if something like marketing. It's pretty subjective and unpredictable. What will work some time? So how do you evaluate what you want to go with yeah? I think you're reinforcing that marketing planning you have to approach in a disciplined way. And if you do it makes these choices pretty easy. It works the majority of the time. I think the key is one to be clear on what your business objectives are to focus on a few things that matter and then three making sure that at least this is gonNA sound counterintuitive. That twenty percent of Your Plan. Initiatives and dollars are net new ideas. Which means that you actually have to cut twenty percent out of the existing because you can't make a hundred twenty so eighty percent can be things that are tried and true that are working but twenty to thirty percent half to be net new ideas and then you can measure each one of them. I think people fail when they have too many objectives and doing too many things. I love that when I read that I forget which article but you're saying every year yesterday team mate twenty percent of their budget and project on your own or were the come from. I don't know where it came up with that I must've learned it from a mentor. Along the way I think you know it may have been in my days at Charles Schwab. We had to do some cost cutting and there was just a forced cost cutting of twenty percent or thirty percent and carry that forward to the good years where it wasn't forced and I thought Oh this would be a really good exercise to just trim even things that are working well but they're not working as well as the other things to make room for new ideas. Otherwise you're just piling new ideas on top of old lines and people don't have infinite bandwidth so I think it probably came from just pure cost cutting and I figured out a way to turn it in to create new ideas. Could you kind of walk? Through example of a business call and then the eighty percent you kept may be that was working at twenty percent you added. That was new. The immediate one that comes to mind is the academy went from fixed pricing variable pricing. A little bit less of what you're asking for but I think it was a big monumental mindshift for museum to go to variable pricing based on just changing prices. That's maybe more scary. One versus the eighty twenty was the goal increase revenue. The goal was increased revenue and to make sure we were capturing the right price the right time for the customer versus having this set price for all the same people on the same day in time at the museum it makes sense right. The reason why no ticket pricing work so well or you have different prices for movies at different times. I mean I love Dr Plans in every organization that I mentioned that you just aren't pushing organization forward. If you don't allow the team to dream on what could be better. I was wondering what's like managing a team like that. Because you have all these people are using new ideas at you. And how do you even pick which creative strategy to go visit instinct? And how do you make the people who are like Kinda rejected? Feel better. Yeah I mean I think it's two different questions in terms of like how you manage the entire team. That's easier question from a creative strategy standpoint. It always has to start with your objective. Does it tie to it? And then is the message. Relevant but even more than relevant isn't compelling in the last thing is is it different? Is it differentiated and I learned these three things awhile back from. There's a really good firm called Astro partners that works in the Consumer Space. But the different one is really important. When you evaluate at creative strategy again does it tied at the business objective and is it relevant compelling and then different and then to answer your question about what's a strategy for managing entire team? I would say the first thing is you have to spend time on hiring well recruiting and hiring takes time. The second thing is having really clear roles and responsibilities so that people can and drive for impact without stepping on each other on the last thing is just providing clear direction but then that coaching versus micromanaging is also super important. Very separate roles. I've been there where the roles were not define clearly nothing. You just WANNA do both. If it's the fine for you backley. Anybody who's ambitious working but it's not always the best thing for the team. I never the best thing for the team. There aren't clear roles and responsibilities established unique particularly advice for others who wanted to become a CMO. One day we'll just in general even if you don't want to be a CMO but even founding your own business just don't ever regret not trying that's the first one you can tell that core precept the second thing related to becoming CMO have fun with it. You Know Flex your creativity Andrew Analytical skills you can do both and then. The third thing is do your homework and be disciplined. I think that is important because the chief marketing officer is meant to drive revenue than so that disciplined approach is really important in the last thing I would say is. Make sure it's what you want. And how do you do that by inviting a few people like me a coffee and I would say that's with any job that you do especially for the new school podcast? I would say the number one thing for your listeners is known also should ever regret inviting someone with job that they may want some day out for coffee. What's next for you now that you just a quick? Yeah you know. That is very very good question in general. I want a big job. That makes a difference so probably a big operator job. I don't know exactly what yet but it will somehow be tied to being a CEO. Being teacher being a peace negotiator being job making a difference. What's the most difficult decision? You had to make to fulfill your destiny. Oh probably delaying being with wreck my husband for two years so we decided to go to business. School part wasn't the original plan but it worked out in the end. Oh then you both had a chance to go to business school okay. Yeah didn't end up going where he was. Because I decided to go to Stanford that was a really really hard choice but I was really young and didn't feel like as much as I loved. Rick I could just move for him at twenty four so it was a hard decision but we figured it out and he believes in me a ton I believe in him. We're a good team so it all worked out. Did you find business? Hopeful to find your Makino from me. I did because I was a history major and I had worked in finance after and I also kind of fueled my entrepreneurial spirit by starting a nonprofit but business. School did a couple things for me. It gave me all the base skills that I didn't. Have you know the operations the financial analysis even the marketing skills but also is to so many other career possibilities much like your podcast does folks so it was definitely worth it for. Me Is their biggest mistake. You feel like you've made in your career actually would think I would learn from my mistakes that I've made it a couple of times. It may sound general. But I'm sure many of you can relate to it which is my biggest mistake is taking too much accountability for an interpersonal dynamic at work and then not being political off to fix it if that makes sense so my number one advice for folks who are political situation is similar to the clear roles and responsibilities certainly be self aware and be accountable for European but also be mindful of the other dynamics at play. So do you wish your lesson moment or more? I think I wish that I realized that it was not mind. Solve that. In difficult work dynamics it requires all the people involved to be accountable to help solve and sometimes that's just tough. Yes harder they both report to you. Yeah or you know. If peers aren't working out many of us who are solvers problem solvers when you face it interpersonal situation. That is a struggle to resolve. Sometimes we feel like we can work harder to solve it but sometimes working harder isn't the answer so when I've learned from that as to step back and be creative about how to either work around or to invite others into help jointly solve it versus taking it on yourself. What do you think is the best thing you did for your so number one thing which is sometimes hard for all of us just being myself anytime? I was the beat myself and come to work. As my whole self I totally thrived sometimes at hard to be yourself. That would be my first thing and I think the second thing is taking risks to do. What's right for the business or from me versus what the market or friends like bought? I should deal to taking those smart risks that I knew in my core where the right thing to do for the business and probably I was thinking about this in preparation. My first job was at a place called Swan waster depot. I don't know if you've ever been to it is in San Francisco and it's very old fashioned fish market. It's literally one marble counter and you go in and you get the best cracked crab and chuck wasters and you can also get fresh fish to take home and Cook for dinner. And I started working there when I was fourteen because I was trying to save money to buy a car and that actually is probably the best thing I ever did for my career because it taught me. I mean everybody sits at that counter from you know a garbage man to the richest people in San Francisco and so it taught me to treat everybody as equals. It taught me that high quality product comes. I just the power of working really hard day so yeah. I'm very grateful for that first job. Also I guess we're at the end so I was wondering if there's any you wanNA sell pitch Okay so I have a few things so the first one is. I have a good friend named Diana cap who just wrote a book called girls who run the world. Okay is great story as female. Ceo Journeys and. It's a kids book so my first thing is go out and buy girls who run the world for every third through eighth grade girl you know it will completely inspire them. The second one is pay it forward no matter how junior you are in your career. Pay It forward to a new colleague. Go volunteer to just pay it forward. And the my last one which is so pertinent today is get out in boat. Don't leave our democracy up to anyone else so go out and vote. Hey Guts I hope you enjoy our interview with the mazing. Wise Blair Shane. I personally think she gave some of the best people management advice. I've heard from anyone definitely tips. I'll be taking for lear down the road also personally. Just find her voice very soothing. Stick around to the end to hear a sneak peek of next week's episode. You can find more information about. Blair's Shane on our website. The new school podcasts dot com to stay up day on content. Make sure to follow us on instagram and facebook. At the new school podcasts please rate review and subscribe wherever you guys get. Your podcast will be really appreciated if you do. You could find your review on a future. The new school episode. If you or anyone else you know thank. You haven't amazing guests beyond our show definitely no contact us in reach out on our website. The new school podcasts Dot com new school of Christine. Hong is produced by shoshee. Beyond Jenny. Snyder and Keefer negree adding by Sydney Sulk John. Simpson and video editing by Josh Stanley special. Thanks to our marketing team. Who Help US spread our mission and get the new school name out there so stressful shutout Katya Sake Amer borgerding. Giovanni Cortez Cynthia Xiao Dina Che and Marissa Will Shammar next week. Look out for an interview with one of the men who started John Z kitchen which has been dubbed by vogue as the sweet green of Chinese. Louison who was featured on Forbes. Thirty under thirty last year is Giannis head. Culinary director chef end designs during tire menu. I remember just going back to bed and I may or may not have been offered a job. Not really sure. In three months later the first restaurant is open end. I'm cooking their come back next Monday to hear how Lucas Cut Star in food how he started multiple restaurants and look at a snapshot. What a day to day is like as a culinary director right. Have a great day guys. Try something new.

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Who The Hell Is Larry?

Mojo In The Morning

07:41 min | 8 months ago

Who The Hell Is Larry?

"Hey it's Mojo in the morning whether kids are going back to school or learning from home gift cards make it easier to get everything you need plus with this special offer, you can earn two hundred fuel points with every gift card that you buy at Kroger and a plus idea for students kroger a smart way to shop for back to school see digital coupon terms and conditions for additional details. and morning. Hello. I gotTa Trente size drink today. Trenton. Joey thought it was a mistake but I did it on purpose because I think I'm GonNa need some extra caffeine on a Monday hair. I'll tell you what would be your caffeine a chance to win ten thousand dollars. We'll have that for you coming up here in just a little bit. It's Mojo in the morning Mojo Spike Shannon Megan and Mike Joey Kirby Allen could have you guys with us. We're broadcasting live on one zero, four point, five s and x ninety, two, five, Kiss FM Channel Nine, five five. In the heart of America and this weekend, I had a little like envy agreed call it. Instagram envy when I was following Kirby from the show. Your. Hanging out at parties like party centrally at birthday parties Galore I saw that and then I I saw. Was Birthday Party on Friday night, and then there was a birthday party on. Saturday. Night and including a birthday party for our friend ever ride. Ever, CAL Academy from Channel Four celebrated a birthday in. and. reveal. On his birthday. He he's going to be a girl dad. Yeah. Frame. He's his by the way his wife is so beautiful. and. His kids are just beautiful Os. This isn't as I third. Oh. Maybe. The I watched on local four on Friday in Detroit I. saw that they did a surprise just happy birthday greeting where they had the kids all wish happy birthday and the kids are so cute. especially his baby his baby was like stole the show the entire time and actually had me crying. adorable like Yob most well behaved and sweet children. And I hear their talent to to hear they can sing too. Can they sang in? Training to be in training. So birthdays birthdays are good. Typos are bad. Are Really. Really bad. So shout out to my girl Kerry cars. You made me realize I know a lot of virgo host. But she didn't give carry as big of a breeding. Don't know who carry is. Happy Birthday. -Til. Building actually you probably do curious. The Matrix Senhao Matrix Human Services I've known them. I only know like three people that work in this building. Last name I'm not gonNA Mitchell Carey Carey. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Happy Birthday. Right. We'll cram. In care. What does she look like describe describing beautiful garate want to give you look down on the radio and a heart of gold. Even. More so than her and loves her birthday, too so Kirby go ahead. Okay. So a beautiful birthday celebration. Very meticulous decor. Cake was marble and like the place settings chargers are. What are we? What's that? You Plug your phone play like oh Off. It's just for decoration. They actually have a name for that. I. Did not know that they have names for that adds fancy. That's what I'm saying that's how you understand the level of. A Harry Ternan. You think you slick now i. was like, is it monumental like because? That's a big celebration I will say. Okay. Kerry she had a phenomenal like birthday celebration and then outcomes the cake. Happy Birthday leary. She she was a trooper though like she was just happy to have this celebration but that was the best joey. Right. Are we had a restaurant. Actually, this was of one of her friends homes. He had a nice big space. So it's nice lot of guys fixed before they brought it out to where they got. It was funny. Oh Happy Birthday leary and Just, Oh God, don't you disrespect my girl if she has a man, she wouldn't even be like leary though that's the thing. Yeah you gotta be a certain type to. Go to Kroger, really quick that we have to of thing fact, scrape it off. Cut. It off I'm sorry she did scrape it off and then everybody was like Oh my God. You might miss the case that's not my name and we Kinda went on but she did have to cakes so on just didn't have a name I. Just like she had two dishes. To, Cagey, to dishes cakes. It was a good time. That's funny. Happy Birthday Happy Birthday. The way you're not supposed to recognize the listeners supposed to just hear that, and then I'm going to move to solicit for something right now it's a radio thing that we do sometimes. Yes. So right now, hold on. Let me start all over again hearing. Hey has anybody ever had a I. Don't even know what I was limited to. Like when you see the memes online or the mess of online win someone will call like the bakery and say, just just write something nice and literally right something Nice. Yeah I by the way I will Chelsea's birthday last week I've had that happen where there was a misspelling because Chelsea is C. H. E. L. S. E. A. and I've had people put the Y. At the end of it and then Shannon you said, did they look at the thing? I didn't look at it because I just thought okay great. I opened up the KEG and I look down there don't even realize it and Chelsea's like. Great. I. S. E. Y. Yeah. Yeah I know exactly sound like you sound like my Chelsea that's the wrong way to. Never picked up a cake and the handwriting is so bad. who had a stroke while they were decorated? Meghan have you had your name misspell then cakes before fleas. It's nice. A tax with my name spelled right Meg Megan spells her name different than most which I love. It's M. A.. G. H. A. N.. All the vowels you don't get motivated. SCRABBLE y'all call up. Scott MEC and ask him. Over. Father. Some parents? It's a beautiful unique name does not thinking of childhood when you have to go through school and a whole world getting it wrong for twenty years but that lends itself to not being able to find the license plate when you're up at mackinac It's like the worst isn't it when you're a little kid and you can't find your name Kirby I Betcha, there's Kirby's. Ever ever. You Know How many times I went to Cedar Point and was disappointed like all. Right my whole life like what's the deal? The kids who could never find their name on a souvenir keychain or license plate. He is a good luck with that one. It's Mojo in the morning.

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Best of This Week in Startups: Week of November 9th, 2020

This Week in Startups

19:14 min | 6 months ago

Best of This Week in Startups: Week of November 9th, 2020

"On episode eleven. Thirty six sec. Commissioner hester purse responded to jason's proposal to have his university course be part of a test to become an accredited investor. Yeah i mean. I think raised a couple of really interesting points one. I think is important to emphasize which is diversification is is a way to protect yourself and and so People who even may have opportunities to invest need to think about the diversification of their whole portfolio including where you work so sometimes you'll get opportunities to invest in the company. You work in which you have to remember. You don't want to have all your eggs including your career and your investments necessarily in the same basket. So ray good good things to think about And you also want to think about how much money you can afford to lose. I'm not giving anyone investment advice. I'm not recommending any kind of investments to anyone but you do to think about how much you can afford to lose any always wanna ask a lot of questions of whoever is asking you for that money so i think your idea of a test is one that others have thought of an and i have had some initial inquiries about that. I do urge people to come in and talk to the sec. Sec has opened the door for people. Come in with ideas like this. The notion of having some sort of kept investment amount is not something entirely foreign and that is what we do in the crowdfunding space there are limitations on the amount that people can put in again as a person who comes to this With the with the idea that people should be able to invest their money as they choose. I get very uncomfortable when we're trying to micromanage people's finances but i can see that you know. I have to work with colleagues. Who have who have who are maybe more conservative than than i am in that regard and they would like to put some breaks in place so i can see that kind of thing being attractive to people that gives you a little chance to practice maybe investing small amounts. I would say even if the government doesn't tell you that that's how you should approach things. It's really good. I really good idea to be cautious in how you approach things. Don't jump in with. Don't empty out your bank account and jump in with both feet to invest in something unless you really sure what you're doing you. You really need to be careful. And there are a lot of people out there who are just waiting eagerly to steal your money so that brings me to the the final concern that i would have about your proposal which i think we will see something like a test develop at some point but you have to be careful if you're gonna be the consumer of one of those tests then you've got to make sure that the person who's selling you that test is not just trying to sell you on a an investment opportunity. Which means that she wants to run away with your money. So you got to do your due. Diligence part of what i believe in is certainly freedom to invest as you want but with that comes responsibility. Ask a lot of questions if your gut is telling you. You don't trust this person than you've got to run the other direction. And so i think that's part of the the the course material that that would need to be covered which is be careful. Be aware of some of the red flags for or what a scam could be But with that. Said i think i i would welcome you jason. To come in to the sec. With its with with the idea that you're thinking about Come in and talk to our division of corporation finance which is part of the sec that that is thinking about how maybe we could further expand this definition and and share your ideas. And i welcome anyone. Who's listening who has other ideas to to do the same thing. I think it's only collectively that we can really approach this problem. And i think it's it's right for you to point out that we need to think about this as a country. It's not just us the regulators trying to figure out what the right answer is here. We need to draw on the wisdom of of everyone out there people who have been in the investing world and you know the kinds of information that that people need to know before they invest on episode eleven. Thirty seven replica. Ceo amjad massad explained is immediate impact on developers. And if it could ever replace them entirely. I think The most immediate thing. Today i will do is. We'll make programmers more effective more efficient and will continue to increase the access to program it kind of in the same way. The replid does that. We continue to look at it and an investment in at some point where We're probably going to build something there. But i don't see it So if you replace programming programmers. That's the last job you have to replace because think about it. The if the machine can program itself then you get into what. Ai researchers call intelligence explosion. Because you have an ai. That is programming itself to get better. So maybe i ne- i programs. It's sort of the the next virgin. That's good south of itself and the next version is programming version. And then you have a runaway explosion and then we invented it so it is if programming gets automated. It's the last job was going to get automated human species basically sky right. I mean basically you would be kind. So i mean i hope program doesn't get automated because i think it's it's it's gonna it's gonna be a very different in risky world because it ends up centralizing power into the hands of the people who end up from that because you had your mind blow by gp three right. The kind of blew your mind and that was unexpected. It blew my mind. But i still could see its limitations very clearly and i could still. It's it's still not reasoning like. I don't think there's any reasoning there were decades away. I think we're definitely decades away. I think it might go by pretty quickly based on experience. Felt like i was in the nineties. Yesterday and three decades for three decades later two decades later from the ninety s. Okay it does go by quick years. You could see that. Gpt three being pretty darn good. Yeah i think there's still something missing a neural networks work in a kind of liked the fashion. Like you said you throw more data at it. Throw more compute at it. It's it becomes this very resource intensive thing that are just the more grows the better it gets but i think there's a limit to that and i think the next avalanche has to be some kind of reasoning and has to be some kind of different thing i think neural networks will hit their limits at some point and so the question will become. Okay when do we. When do we get to the next to the next innovation in an episode eleven thirty eight jason answered listener question about the stigma around solo founders. My name is andrea mar. I wanted to partners and co founders insect digital marketing firm specializing with startups scale growth and so teams all ex facebook. But the question. I have for you today is because we were working with a lot of venture capitalist and a lot of feedback that we get is that they are wary of investing and single founder teams. Want to see like a group of founders. So together is that a consideration for you. Are you open to investing in single founder teams and if so what kind of action today have to have a certain verticals. That just won't touch if it's a single founder of so. I love to hear feedback. Thanks great question. You're asking specifically about me. Here's what i care about. I care about making money being successful and dunking on everybody in the world. Because i got to a startup before they did to me. That's delightful. I love that I'm i'm kidding. But not so. Let me give you a little history on the single versus as a dual versus three or four or five founders. And i'll give you some examples because everybody loves a good example. I met a gentleman named raul. He had like five co-founders for a really brilliant little app and he Got to the point where this little app called reporting live was gaining steam and lincoln came along and said we want to buy your company. I i don't even know the other. Four founders of. I literally couldn't tell you the other. Four founders of report of because it's been ten years the company only existed for a couple of years before they sell to lincoln and they sold for what would be the equivalent of like for me as an investor getting a single getting on base because it got hit on the head with the ball. I put twenty five fifty k. And i got back like honey. It's four act semi fifty seventy five grand. It's not gonna change my life. I know it sounds obnoxious but that to me. That's the worst possible situation but there was a great thing. There's five co founder. So if you lose two you got three spares. That was something that paul graham realized early on with why comedy y combinator had a massive influence on the startup ecosystem. Give paul graham. So much credit. I know people find polarizing. The overton window now is so tight that paul graham's tweets trigger people and i mean that's a whole nother episode i. He's a brilliant person who has made such an amazing impact on the technology industry It really more. He's more for the tech industry in the last twenty years. I think definitely top ten. Maybe five putting that aside. He realized when he was giving people money in the early days he had no money so he give a he would think he gave aka profound. Or so you've had two hundred team like read. It would give them sixteen k. You had three people he would give you twenty four k and you've had one person give you aka at. You can look it up and it was something in that sort of broad strokes and the idea was. You're going to work on it for three or four months. You can have three k each. It was rahman they be. He called it rahman funding i. I'll i'll pay for your rahman and partier rent. You guys worked for three or four months of it works and it works out great. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. So that's why you have this addiction to the multi founder approach. I don't care because there are maniacal people who are exceptional founders. Who are so good that for them to have a co founder. Would only slow them down. What cofounder in the world is going to be able to keep up with mark zuckerberg come on what founder and the co founders may be able to keep up with elon. Musk you know. Like steve jobs had was that was actually true co because he needed a technical person at that time and so in some cases. It's just much better for the to to not have co-founders when it is it is good because it creates redundancy. It is bad because sometimes it creates A conflict and you know problems the the number one killer of these multi founder companies is infighting between the founders. You don't see that. Typically in a solo founder but with founder the solar founder loses their mind jumps the fence. Now you got a problem because who's going to run the company. So i don't over optimize for. I think it's stupid over optimized. Msa program stupid for doing it. He had a reason to do it. It was like a mechanical technical reason. He was doing one hundred startups. It makes total sense there. What i'm trying to say here is. What i there's so many more there's so many more important things to think about the startup. How good is the idea. How good is the execution of that idea in other words. How good is the product. How much did the customers love. That product will the customers be absolutely distraught if the class if the product goes away like if tessa went away tomorrow. I don't know what cry drive. I back to driving a corvette. I mean i it'd be. It'd be heartbroken if i could drive my tesla right. And a lot of people feel that way about their iphones or their uber or their postmates or their airbnb. Like that's how good the product has to be so focused on that. I don't care you want to be one of the only problem i do have is when there's five because then who's in charge. And then how much equities left said then that becomes a math problem. Solo founder gets diluted twenty percent twenty percent twenty percent twenty percent. Okay somewhere along the line. They own twenty percent of the company when it goes public right or something in that range you get. Five co-founders okay. Vc's come annotate thirty percent five co they give ten percent of the employees five co of twelve percent each than they get diluted twenty percent so they're down to ten percent they're down to seven percent and you know when you start getting founders into the low single digits. You know what they start thinking. If i start over a number solo founder i can have eighty five percent of this leap in company and i seen it happen. And it's a real bummer. So you got a top off those founders. I have a little secret for that. Because i'm usually early in the early advocate. I'll just say the latest aged founders the latest stage investors. Listen this founder is at. I don't know in one case it was like eleven percent. I'm like this kids killing himself. He's got eleven percent of the company. The company had to raise money was a pretty hard situation. He doesn't have a co founder. But i wanna give this founder five points over five years people were like. Oh my lord. I'm like well. He's almost fully vested. You want to run the company and we'll put the five points tie to to something like performance or whatever and i got everybody to do it. Then i was in another situation happened to be a female founder. She was down below twenty percent. She wasn't as cute as the ten percent situation. She was fifteen. She wants to do the top off. she says. I want ten percent where i went on twenty five percent. She had just taken come billion dollars. I'm blurring some of the details here so it's not identifiable and i said okay. I support you. But there's a there's two other board members you have to win over with this thing and so she said well. You talked to the board member. I talked to the board member. He's like no no Hit your numbers for year and then make a request. You still have a eighteen months left on your best when this investment when you're through this vesting schedule and you've had this millions of dollars in revenue then. I think you can make that request. An hasegawa k. For me. I'm like i just wanna lock the founder and i don't want them looking over their shoulder so great question. I gave you a little more information than ask for But no jason at cal academy dot com doesn't care if you're solo or two or three and my point about the rahul story is lo and behold he started another company called superhuman. There are other partners there. But he's running the show basically and i think he's kind of a solo founder Well there might be some folks who consider themselves like on the founding team so there's a lot of like nuance to this as well. The way you know who the founder is. 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RafaOutSystems Podcast  #09 -Miguel Vilhena

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RafaOutSystems Podcast #09 -Miguel Vilhena

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Are Coaches and Course Creators Scammy? Biz Ops #1698

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Are Coaches and Course Creators Scammy? Biz Ops #1698

"Welcome to marketing school. The only podcast that provides daily top level marketing tips and strategies from entrepreneurs that practice what they preach and live what they teach. Let's start leveling up your marketing knowledge with your instructors. Neil patel and eric. Su alright marketing school listeners. Have a special message from our sponsor dream hosts if you want to rank higher on google. You wanna make sure website load super bass. Checkout greenhouse. natalie's their solution super affordable. Ill make your website look faster. And they have amazing tools and support for business to ensure that you grow and succeed today. We are going to talk about. If we believe that coaches and course creators are scammy and really this topic kind of came up. Because i've been observing clubhouse in last couple of weeks we do know that jason cal academy angel investor. I remember watching him in a room. Going up against a couple of coaches in there right and so his argument is that the coaching and the course creator community is mostly. Scans right and so neil kinda give feedback on it and then you know you can decide what you want do with it but this is like glamour here is. This is what neil knife think. That doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Okay are doesn't mean it's right is just kind of our worldviews of neil gopher it so there's both scammy craters coaches and there's legitimate ones and here's what i mean by that. What people don't realize is in the united states our education system. I know people have gripes with it but compared to some other countries it's actually not that bad of course there's room for improvement and it could be better and there's some other countries have better education systems than us. But there's a lot of places in the world The expert zil where. They're not getting an. I know people there were. They don't get the knowledge that they're looking for from colleges so they go to places like hot with have tons of courses and there's courses on literally every single topic that you can think whether it's from medical or legal or marketing and for them they rely on courses because it helps them with their daily life getting jobs in succeeding and to me. That's all legitimate. And i think that's great because it's helping these people and also works out better when they can't afford forty fifty thousand dollars or their currency s something equivalent to paper private colleges but on the flip side. There's a lot of course creators and there's a lot of practitioners out there that are saying. Hey i'll teach you how to make money or quit your job and make a living off of amazon just by this course and you can be a millionaire will if it was easy and there were that successful why would they critic course on it. Why would they just go and do it themselves instead of creating the course so i think what's causing the issue is a large chunk of the people. Maybe majority i don't know. The percentage are legitimate ethical. They have courses on the sarah or whether the selling on facebook and these course rachi helping people in their lives and letting people accomplish their goals without having to pay massive cost tuitions or they may be in a country where they don't have that option so the courses help but then on the flip side. There's also a lot of people out there that are just selling quote unquote get rich quick schemes and to me. A lot of those are scams if not all of them are scams. Yep so here's the thing. There's actually a youtube channel and there's actually a couple of people that have built significant youtube following. The one that comes to mind is coffee zillow. So you know it's good entertainment and he does call out some of these. The scammy courses out there i think if you have any inkling of this feels weird and the messaging get rich quick and there's pressure to buy things quickly in general this is known as kind of business biz ops right or business opportunities for me even though there's a software there's all the other stuff that we have we do have actually have a program called consulting school but it's really for people that have done that right. Been there done that. They've started right. We wanna go for people that have actually started to build something versus some people that are just kind of starting out kind of preying on those people right so i think whenever some type of pressure and something feels off. That's probably more biz ops. And that's were scammy connotations. Come from and you can see a lot of that stuff from coffees villa. And what i would say is neil now. We actually know some of the best horse creators in the world and you know sam above. He's done really well. And actually kneeling. We've met him in person. He's a great thinker and he's just managed to build a nice mechanism for him. That kicks out a ton of cash flow right. But it's not like a high pressure type of scenario and even has a free trial and what's even crazier is. I think he has a testimonies page with like three thousand video. Testimonials of purchasers who are like this is great. This is amazing and we have a mutual friend. Brian deane from back linko. Who believe released a course on how to create courses and generate a business like it not scammy. He puts in so much time to create content and teach people how to do it. It works but you know. He's not the average person nor sam because neither of are promising that hey download this course. Pay me and you'll be a millionaire. People are typically promising. That kind of stuff are usually just off your money. If you're seeing a lot of stuff. Your messaging has a lot to do about becoming a millionaire. I think that's when it's worth doing a double take. I will say. I pay for a coach. I have a business coach. And i'm actually going to have him on clubhouse and a couple of weeks or so but his name's jerry colona and he coached zeos of twi- leo at sea and a lot of these companies right and so i'm very proud to call him a coach but the pricing is nothing. Like what. I've seen with other coaches where it might be a couple hundred grand or so or you're taking equity in and i'm not saying those prices would be wrong in some cases that might make a lot of sense right but i think know trying to charge someone that is trying to figure out their life a couple hundred grand. That's kinda tough to stomach. So i think when you look at the top of silicon valley coaches in the world. The legendary coaches. They do it for much and some of them do it for free or might they might do it for a little bit of equity or so. But they're also well vetted. And i think definitely checking your references checking the reviews as walking. Neal's point i mean a lot of these should have trust pilots. You can check type in the course name or whoever's teaching a course just typing in their name and put scam at the end of type in review at the end of it and you'll be able to do your own research and make a decision from there so i think there's a time and place for courses and coaches as well. There's also people that are kind of turned into bad actors as well. Neil you close it out and make sure your rate review the podcast marking school dot. io slash pro. We appreciate you joining us for this session of marketing school. Be sure to rate review and subscribe to the show and visit marketing school dot. Co for more resources based on today's topic as well as access to more episodes that will help you find true marketing. success that's marketing school dot l. until next time class dismissed.

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08 January, 2020  Episode 753  2020 Science Vision!

This Week in Science

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08 January, 2020 Episode 753 2020 Science Vision!

"This is twiss this week in science episode number seven hundred fifty three recorded on Wednesday January eighth two thousand twenty twenty twenty science vision. Hey there I'm Dr Kiki in tonight on this week in science we are going to fill your head with predictions past predictions. Future and science but first twists is supported by listeners. Like you we thank you for your support. We really couldn't do it without you. Does Julia Hammer this disclaimer. There are few things upon which you can always rely. Change is one of those steady friend throughout life changes always there with the birth of a New Year. The death of an old the idea the steady ticking off of moments that make up a dull day a new job a new love when he paired multi pocketed cargo shorts brand new car new obstacles new challenges new new insights and new discoveries and even old and familiar. The routine in the run of the mill might begin to To a different drum there there are so many ways in which we encounter change. That is often much more difficult to identify the things that have stayed the same one thing that has not changed much over the past ask ten years is the passionate persistence of scientists shaking shadows DC. What secrets shake loose? Providing with plenty of non fiction pulp upon which to present a podcast full of unpredictable changes. Your steady friend throughout life this week in science is coming up next got kind of mine on a learn. Everything on Bill is all up with new. Discover happen every day. There's only one place in the pilot knowledge science and good science to you to just in. I'm Blair and everyone out there. Welcome to another episode of this week in Science Happy New Year. Happy New Year to ooh. It's a new decade. It is a new day. New Don a new decade new tens column and under happy new tens column to you. It is a big one. It's hard to imagine that This year marks the twentieth year of twists would get does might is right. We are in our our twenties now people since our inception this is. This is a big big year big decade for us. I hope it our is our best best ever. We have a long past and I hope we have a brilliant future with you. Yes yes yes oh my goodness what do we have in the show this evening. Well we have oh well science because we we have to bring the science. But that's GONNA be in the second half of the show. This is our predictions show. This is the show of prognostication for the first little bit. We will go into the the past. We predicted what would happen in two thousand nineteen. How did we do? I don't know we'll find out in just a moment and then we'll predict what will happen in in the future. What's going to happen in two thousand twenty? We are going to place our bets if you have pets and you are watching live but yours in In the chat room in in the chat and we'll see if we can grab them and throw them in with the predictions that we're talking about while we're going through that in the first half of the show that's right second half after the show. It's a science. I've got fast. Radio Bursts and Brain Oregon aides. Because that's awesome. What else do we have? Justin what did you bring for science. I got of course more ancient human news as well as some viral insects viral insects. Okay one here about that one. That sounds interesting and Blair. You've got some animal coronary stuff for us. Oh Yeah I have let's see bear muscles and I have a bird and bat guts in your hands. Fat Diet for Twenty Twenty and burn fat guts of Newt. Yeah it's like a witches recipe for sure. Yeah got to bring out the cauldron but it's the wrong season. Oh we're never the wrong season. Aw All right. We're going to keep it going if you have not subscribed to us before would love to know why you haven't coming back to us. We'll you let us know what who what are we doing. Why aren't you listening to this? Have all they're out of here. What's up with that? You can find us all places that podcasts are found the apple podcast directory. Google play podcast directory. Although spotify spreaker tune in radio DOT COM Pandora all over the place. That's right we are everywhere. Tell your friends. And you can find US lurching lurching this week in science on Youtube and facebook and you can also find us at our website twist dot org. Okay let's jump into under the show with our magic. Oh I was gonNA also reminded people. That's right San Francisco Bay area people or if you're in the bay area next week where are we going to be Blair. Oh we're going to be at the most wonderful time of the year. SF SKETCH FEST at the CAL Academy Nightlife. So it's like all of the things in one. The the amazing sketch comedy and stand up comedy and the Science and the Science Museum and the Nightlife and the drinking and the dancing. It's all going to be in one place. It's going to be so amazing and I hope to see we some wonderful faces. They're come say hi. Blaire will sign your calendars. I won't I'll just kidding. Just rip Ovid half like right away right away. Cackling no love designs of calendars as well Justin. Will you sign calendars you have they handle that. It's about something much copy of you had today Blair courtesy of signing somebody else's. Oh yeah others beautiful arrogant we just put my autograph right there. Visiting scientist big names for the animals. It'll be great we can. Yeah we can we can. We can on science the thing on the calendars all right. Well we we'll be there next Thursday January sixteenth. You can find a link to buy tickets at our facebook page. You've gotten a facebook event up there or you can just go to Sketch Fest Dot Com I think is what their what their website is to look for the CAL Academy Nightlife event. All right now. Let's let's jump into the show. Oh my goodness all sorts of business. He things get through the first show of the year very exciting though last year. I predicted I predicted that the Chinese mission to the moon would be successful and would stoke the fire of the race back to the moon and on to Mars for the United States. And was I right. Yes China Roving the moon. They've got a rover over on the moon. They just actually sent back sent a released a whole bunch of images high resolution resolution images from the surface of the moon on the far side. If the moon. So we're getting all sorts of really interesting data from the Chinese mission to the moon. It's very exciting and there is a little bit of a race. What's going on at this point? Maybe not to the moon necessarily. Yeah but I actually saw a headline on Ars Technica this week about The United States having to really work hard to be able to have launched supremacy over China that currently Lee China holds launch supremacy over the United States. So I feel like there's a little bit of this this space race heating up their. It isn't going to be the US or is the US is going to be rooting for like Elon. Musk I know it's back to the moon. I mean this is a more more accurate. It depends on how you could backseat to space exploration row as a nation Let's see speaking of other space predictions. I predicted the Indian Moon mission would launch successfully. And because I was an optimistic I said it would suck for the mission to fail after so many delays and so that it would have to work the launch went fine the Shandra Mission Shandor Sakar mission got into the orbit around the Moon. Everything was going ingrate until they deployed their lander which the software glitched and they crashed into the surface of the moon when they later found it they determined that it had been growing rather quickly when it reached the surface of the moon. So there wasn't really anything left to to salvage but they're they're gonNA try again so we'll see what happens there this year. Who knows third? Time's a charm Let's see Li- go virgo. Oh I predicted what discover many more black hole mergers from big ones two little ones and yes. The LEGO Burger Virgo. Collaboration has continued to detect black holes mergers but also neutrons star mergers which I did not predict so there's a combination of things I said we would see a successful spacex sex test of its crew capsule and docking with the International Space Station. Yes that happened. It's all systems are go there. I predicted stem cell. Therapy companies companies would make a lot of noise as the FDA regulations began to kick in and caused some growing pains for the treatment the rehabilitation regenerative medicine treatment treatment industry. And Yeah there hasn't it has definitely Caused a little bit of a stir in the stem cell industry. There was a legal battle last year that the FDA one against a stem cell company that was basically lying about treatments that it was giving. So there's a lot going on on that regulation of stem cell treatments at the moment It's just an ongoing story. There will be. I predicted a kerfuffle awful between China and the rest of the world regarding crisper use in humans. I don't know if there was a kerfuffle that was like two thousand eighteen when he Zheng Cui announced his crisper babies but it's been a year since over a year now and the conversation is ongoing. But I don't think there's really like a oh Chinese or allowing this kind of medicine to take place I think uh. Isn't that Christopher baby guy in prison and Jamie exact he yeah. Yeah seems awful behind bars absolutely. It seems as though their efforts for global conversation and regulation -regulation of this stuff that everyone's trying to play nicely together. Let's eat mosquitoes. I predicted with gene. Drive would To limit reproduction would be released. In the wild and mass hysteria would ensue. There was no Gene drive edited Miskito released into the into the wild only into into laboratories but genetically modified Mosquitos were released and I think people in not mass hysteria necessarily but people are places or concerned concerned. People have concerns no mass hysteria. All is good and then the last two I predicted carbon capture would see a major development element and excite more people about helping reduce greenhouse gas emissions. No that didn't really happen There were no major carbon dioxide capture captured developments. It's again ongoing but two thousand. Nineteen I think was a really big year for general enthusiasm or AH the growth of people's of people's awareness of climate change so it was a big year in that way and then I said that we would have another great year ear of twists. And I think we did. I think two thousand nineteen was one of our best years yet. It was We had live shows. Does it was A year with more interviews on the show than ever before and more people have become minions twist minions means. I think it's it's just been a great year and I look forward to more Justin. None of my predictions came even close. No now now. I predicted that The synthetic biological circuitry would become so popular that we would be sharing our lunch with our computers. I we're not quite there. I predicted that we would discover a solar system that was made up entirely of black holes circling each other with big supermassive black hole in the middle or like the sun would be and then smaller ones was satellites. And we haven't seen it yet it's We have improving that we might. It might not exist it just not last year. We just haven't seen it yet. Also the wrong here to predict that time travel would be discovered for it now that one that one was the year that we actually discovered how to travel in time. It's you discover the evidence of of a time traveler from about a AH five years from now which is interesting because the time traveller is the scientists Lisa Randall and she has to figure out how in because she hadn't even been working on time travel and yet she's the one that gets discovered an ancient tomb despite all the evidence contrary I was going to be here that we discovered that all sharks are primarily Vegetarians just little fish on the site. And I don't think we We illustrated that quite yet for many the game. Maybe just not the year for it. Maybe it hasn't been studies broadly enough. Yeah just a different year remember. I'm really soon like hits like. Ah Yeah that one was really close. We were far. You did go for it. You went for the your. I'm just GONNA go for this this homerun and it's either GonNa make it or not as guy this year. When when it gets to the predictions part I might be like scientists? Discover something important that they hadn't known number four. That's it then. I can wind the thing that that is later but the more work now you can just type. Ben Did was time travel discovered. Nope no hits done whether or not they made it gritty mine. I found were too. Ooh squishy that's ever further so I I predicted that Tara grades of beef out in space and we would not be sure if it was from contamination earth. They started out there yet We did in fact find I charter grades on the Moon. But that's because Israel crash-landed degrades. I really yeah yeah I think that's perhaps I also predicted the dinosaurs would be reclassified as warm blooded. This did not happen. But it got darn close because Tara sores were theorized this year to potentially have been warm blooded but still jury's out and we found out that whole thing about the t rex thermo regulation in their head. So I feel like it's getting close but nobody stepped up to the plate and said okay. There warm-blooded now so it didn't quite happen. A national state of emergency will be declared in regards to climate change just not in the US. Yes that happened all over it particular very recently Australia but actually about eight hundred million people are currently living in places that have declared global warming as an emergency as of today. Wow so that definitely happened. Just not here. Tesla semi trucks will go to market and start popping up across the country. Nope instead we saw a cyber truck gets window broken but still not on To market either the semi is supposed to hit the market this year. Now in twenty twenty twenty spiders will do something or be discovered doing something crazy and unexpected Yes and we did discover catapulting catapulting spiders this year so I would say that is that is a big ten for humans. Learn vent a new truck trucking. They can four good buddy or overblown food allergy. No that didn't happen A CGI human character. Her will star in a film alongside real actors. And we won't be able to tell the difference. I do think this is a yes. Because of the Star Wars release where there is real footage of Carrie Fisher and CGI and you. It's really hard to tell which is which they did a really good job. It's like the networks has is the Irishman which stars one in the first part a very young Robert Deniro the younger? It's looking quite good foldable smartphones. Things will hit the shelves and be short lived. I would say I was so accurate. I heard about this that they got pre released. An immediately pulls that did happen in twenty nine hundred a couple people got their hands on on them and they were immediately pulled off the market. They're supposed to come back out this year again and then I predicted that this completely. Why do they kept bringing thank you you know when you fold them? Greens broke oops. Oh yeah anyway. And then my last prediction was that twists will do an amazing life show somewhere new in the world with the great audience. Yes Santa Fe. We had not been in New Mexico as as of two thousand eighteen so that was a big yes. That was a great location. That was so much fun so much. Fun unloved doing live shows if anybody is in a location and wants to bring us out to do a lot of show yes just to that phrases this is bring us out to bring us out. That's right okay I this is this week in science. I think it is time. I'm to turn our attention now to the future time to confer with our crystal balls. Justin would you start absolutely twenty twenty predictions twenty twenty year. An object in space will be discovered hurtling towards the earth and and while we are absolutely powerless to stop it. It's fine it's okay This sort of thing actually happens every day but this'll not the first time we've been able to discover object and track it. That is small. Very small. Optic has this small. What's this small firms can't hangers twenty twenty year that everybody begins saying saying that hindsight is thirty twenty. That's what it means Justin Twenty twenty twenty twenty year. We finally agreed to eliminate the word therefore from the English language further Moore. We'll actually become a criminal offence. Twenty twenty we'll be referred to as deuce not exactly once that was it. That was one time. You said it AK twenty twenty the wealthiest world warm up to the idea that climate change might only be a poor people problem but the idea quickly roads along with most beach. Front Property Yeah Vinod Khosla. He's GonNa be pretty upset about that and Twenty twenty people become aware that Google can stubborn developing the EH wearable computer glasses the google. They've still been working on this whole time. And they realize it when tens of thousands of people are forced to start wearing these things as part of the new GIG economy jobs where instead of receiving any form of training you put on the glasses and they dictate take what you are doing step by step throughout your day. There's only last part of Twenty twenty as constant pop up ads. Keep referring people to to find better jobs based on with been watching twenty twenty people who watch. That's the show. Ancient aliens will become slightly more informed about actual ancient history by watching cooking show instead and twenty twenty last one last one. Twenty twenty will go down in history as long as we make in twenty twenty one or that one right now. We don't know just do. Do you have any science. News Related Science News tracking the smallest object. Okay where is it hurdles towards the earth and is not right at all. That's GonNa be twenty twenty. You'll see were where you want. Science prediction is that what I didn't know nobody's I. Nobody was bats. Civic is it will be the year that we discover a cure to that disease that we have been fighting against against for so long License squishy originally science science will continue to to find the things that we didn't know we could. We should even be predicting those are the really fight. We will The unpredictable things that science will discover. Are The really the exciting thing so yeah I think you're right Blair. Yes when I'm predictions. I want to add a anyone right at the top. Some soft and squishy. Yeah someone will turn Justin's predictions into a short story Maybe here. My other prediction. microscopic life in outer space. I'm not saying charters. Necessarily I think we might actually find something. A single celled organism bacteria or something in outer space. I think it's time we keep seeing water and other clues maybe twenty twenty year. We'll find life. I also predict that. We'll find out we are treating lab mice wrong again. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I bet you that when one of them tells us so I predict that we will cure a third patient of HIV twenty. That would make my prediction rate. Also again when I said we'll be cured disease. That's you're stealing the mind but it's okay. Yeah sure of. I predict that climate change will finally be discussed. In the presidential debates. The conversation will be somewhat one sided. When I ninety I predict that uh more species will be found to be shrinking from climate change? I predict that a new cephalopod species will be discovered. That would be fun. Yes I predict that we will reach the two thousand dollar a month goal on Patriae on. That would be amazing. We're not far off. Come on on everybody make my prediction come true. I also predict just for fun that Baby Yoga will be at least temporarily evil who ooh and I predict that scientists will attempt to create a black hole in a lab and destroy a life life oops all. IBM VAT lab of it. Everyone yeah the valley near the prediction comes true. We won't be able to talk about it but you still. You still want everybody to know. Even though they don't they're I'm not here. All things will have have ceased to exist. I just want to be on record. Say You won't have told you. Yeah but I told you so did I sure did. Just as you're being sucked in to a Passed the event horizon into the singularity like. Oh Man I told you clearly called this one. You'll you'll think to yourself and it will be the thought that lasts forever. I called this but then you know maybe there'll be another big bang and then we'll be like where was twenty twenty. It's going to be big. You were around around for you to tell us in which case is get in line so did so. I didn't listen to uh-huh oh my goodness okay. Let me let me dive into my predictions. Here I predict in twenty twenty dark matter experiments in Japan and the United States will successfully go live but they will report no evidence of the weakly interacting massive particles wimps that they seek within twenty twenty. Maybe sometime later but not in twenty any twenty. They won't report it but they will start looking for wimps. The Japanese gravitational wave detector is going to also go online and and it will add to the resolution of the current Lego Virgo collaboration allowing detection of even smaller merger events in the universe. I'm thinking in just in. This is how we're going to find your black hole solar system. It's everything's out there it's got to be. I'm I'm excited though. Three gravitational wave detectors going online on earth this year. It it's GONNA be cool. SPACEX and and Boeing are both going to successfully launch crude miss it missions space in two thousand twenty. We will be privately putting people in space in twenty twenty so when you say we though not we privately humans. I think it's I take. I take it as a humanity kind of thing I I hear the next twist live show from space. That's that would be great very Eh. I hope the connection is can still talk to. We'll be able to do a live show but you know live well low-earth-orbit and then right back in you know these superfund okay okay. So that's going to be successful. It's very exciting. I think India is going to return to the moon again for another attempt at landing on the surface land on the surface but not just real hard way really hard. Yes yes so softly. They'll land on the moon softly. Artificial intell- intelligence is going to beat humans at at the game of life. That's Kinda joke. Not The board game kind of the board game nothing. It is challenging that game DR Congo College route. You tough hard gang there no self driving. Driving cars are going to take over more roads leading to many taxi selfies on the Internet Wacko Wacko America. I have lots of little funny little jokes. My jokes my little brain jokes or my goodness more. Robots will leave earth heading to Mars leaving behind millions of jealous humans into twenty twenty. It's all messed up down here. It is the thing this is what you know. Robots are better built for space. They can travel further have less requirements though they'll do better as space-traveller space travel is that humans will we are designed where planet we are evolving billions of years. Well we're evolved over billions years to survive on one planet. Robot can go where no man has gone before moving away from robots into squishy he stuff or crisper and gene drive will be in the news more in two thousand twenty due to sensationalist scaremongering than to research research advances. Twist is going to have to calm things down except for the gene drive. I'm always gonNA excite that further. We'll sorry Blair. The gene drive hype girl so regret the transplantation involving Crisper is going to be successful and lead to a pig to human organ transplantation in Dom stem cell trials. We'll see successes in two thousand twenty. Four macular degeneration retinopathy Parkinson's Parkinson's and other diseases. I think stem cells will be big this year and then following on that in November at the ballot. California's What is it serm? That is is council on Something regenerative medicine it's serm. They manage the the stem cell research. In the state of California they will succeed in renewing their funding mandate by getting funded by the people of California To pursue do more stem cell research efforts. They're going to get money. It's GONNA happen more stem cell research. I think also in the end of the year pressured by their constituents countries around the world are to increase their efforts to combat climate change by reducing promising to reduce emissions even further than they have currently promised so right now the amounts that they've promised are barely enough. Have to keep get us where we want to be and so I think people by think countries are going to listen to all of the marchers the activists and the people who are asking to do something the people who are living in the emergency areas. And it's doable. Maybe the United States but more countries. It's it's aw pretty doable efforts. Yeah Yeah I am hoping I I think that. By the end of the year in December when The the goals for the Paris Agreement are revisited. Unfortunately the United States may will be out of the Paris agreement by then but at that point in disaster countries. What are hostile began? November is in November is when we are Are officially out of the Paris. Agreement and in December is the deadline for countries to renew their promises or to update their promises. Says and I think at the end of the year even though the United States itself will be out I will be heartened by the efforts of countries around the globe about climate change. And there's still in cities all over the United States. Who are they can't formally sign on but they're they're kind of pseudo signing which is it's still good? I guess I was misunderstood because I guess I thought that we still have like it was going to be technically. We weren't out until after the election and then it would be just a matter of lack. Here's new goals list if we wanted to to rejoin wasn't going to be hard like a week later if there's a different Will we're in unprecedented in a territory and as a pretty big player in this depending on how this all goes down. I'm sure that there is going to be ways for the United States to sign on in whatever way they can dan if that becomes a thing that people are interested in at that time point if we change if we change our mind. I'm I'm I have a feeling. It's not the kind of thing that they go. Oh no you too late. You're a superpower. Who wants to help out with this year like okay and let's see Roman isn't for school and I have four more predictions shins? The climate will continue warming even as the grand solar minimum occurs this year which is the massive reduction in and solar activity which would usually bring cooling trends to the earth. But we're GONNA continue to see warming and it will Further further disprove claims of solar influence in current climatic trends. That one's already right ready rate. I know I just saying further. It's the way no but that's the word we're getting rid of. That's almost crime has now. My prediction is next year. 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Sometimes they're very hard to track down because they're unpredictable in nature in that they don't repeat we see something it's a flash of radio waves saves one time or maybe a couple of times the been at some weird radio signal. It's like what was that and then it never happens again. What what is probably happened? Is that something released. A lot of energy and that it was done and we missed it. All we saw was the release of the radio. The radio radio waves millions of years after it actually occurred but every once in a while we get fast radio bursts that repeat where they are a signal that occurs more than once. And we're able to use that predictability ability or at least the fact that they're happening over and over again to track them down and researchers this last year saw an F. R. B. In two thousand thousand nineteen that they at hadn't quite figured out where it came from as of their reporting of it last year they have now they've they've called it. It has a a wonderful wonderful name F. R. B. One eight zero nine one. Six his rolls off the Tung. This fast radio burst they Discovered it and then over the course of five hours there were four more bursts from the same The same source so they were able to figure out where it came from. It came from nowhere special. You'd think that it would be something at the edge of a black hole like a black hole eating a son or Or even a galaxy you know. There's all the energy that it would be. Released would be released in a massive burst but now nothing near a black hole it was just on the edge. Not even in the middle toward the center of a black hole in the center under of a spiral galaxy just on the edge of a run-of-the-mill spiral galaxy kind of like the Milky Way. Approximately five hundred million light years away from us so very far away very very distant in time this something occurred word in the suburbs of a spiral galaxy very similar to where we are in the Milky Way Galaxy and the question is what could be causing something like this because previously the idea has been. Okay it's happening at this star forming region a star eating region. We've got blazers. We've got quasars we've got all sorts of ours ours ours is not Dr Seuss. Books now should be. Oh my goodness. That's a great idea. The the astronomy the astronomy these amazing stars in the universe so looking at other fast radio radio bursts now suffices suffice it to say we have not studied a lot of them we have only identified a few and had not identified many many that we've been able to track back to their source but the ones that we have have been at these very extreme environments where it's like Oh of course something's releasing a lot of energy energy there that makes sense but this one the question is what's going on there. What's happening in this normal among ordinary spiral galaxy but would lead to the release of energy on the On the level I love about five hundred million sons. The amount of energy that is being released is astronomical in Phraya area. How many million? Five hundred million sons worth of energy. I mean it's massive energy discharge massive that is contributing to these radio bursts. So something big had to have happened but it's not in a place whereas something big would be to have. Yeah so that is the interesting question. And so the more steady these fast radio bursts are of interest to a lot of people they may tell some interesting stories about our universe. Is it possible. The half of lenzing effect around entire galaxy happening behind the Galaxy Z.. And the entire Galaxy I'm how gravitational lenses to. This appears to be coming from this region could be coming from instead of five. Hundred million is though a couple of hundred million light years behind that or you know because that's interesting. That's an interesting idea universal mysteries who knows we have so no I know so little. I mean you'd like we can fill. We can fill an internet with all the things we know but we know so little in about four percent of the universe and even that four percent. We don't have all the answers about. There's still a lot of question marks question marks. It's awesome the really exciting thing about it. Though is that the universe is so big and so what we what we can see in things like this is is a bit of universe archaeology innocence. Because we're looking at something five hundred million years ago in this event that took place than shit so it's having all of history three and a half. A Universe away laid out in front of us at once a different time periods depending on how things are we are seeing different Different time points in the evolution of our universe receiving multitudes of defense that may be be rare even to happen But we still get the spot when we're looking in the right direction So so that it is. It's going to be an ongoing fascinating field for as long as they're humans to observe. Yeah absolutely Kevin. Unique in the chat room says in answer to your your question about lenzing around a solar system or galaxy says Yes it is possible but then it would not be a focused beam of radio energy as we are seeing it would show up as a ring which is interesting. That's what he's saying very interesting. Just do you have any science. ooh I do Have something along the lines of science pop quiz pop quiz for clothes books but Dan your phones grabbing number twos get ready to. I answer the following question what player. What was the first type of science commonly practiced by early hominids so ocean science science? Because as I said really mean this discipline science early hominids animal. Animal Behavior Medicine both good. The answer. Geo Engineering was not going. When are they beavers? They were they were okay so this is early Stone Age people in the study between one point. Eight to one point. Two million years ago were engineering stone tools now this is different than just crafting and manufacturing a sharp object from a stone. According to this study they weren't just picking up the rocks that were handy in transforming. They were transforming specific types of stones stones in complex ways for optimized cutting tools and. We're choosing different rocks with different edge types and different stones based on how long they would be useful and sort of pairing that against how hard it was to acquire these stones. How far they would travel? We'll have to travel to get them. This is a study that is by University of Kent University College. London in his published in the the Royal Society interface just that pay with the almonds Materials for different types of stone tools for their different uses based on how sharp durable inefficient those materials were they selected stones based on the length of time will be used the force with which they could be applied Reveals a apparently a very complex system of understanding what stones what purposes Zuma's and how to craft them properly to make the tools that they need it and this is one of those one of those things that just the sort of as as more and more study of ancient not even ancient humans ancient hominids this very pre what we would call a modern modern current human or non human. But this is this is what are those things that continues to remind us that regardless of how far are back in time we go. We keep finding humans to be clever intelligent and able to do very complex lacks tasks and understand the world that they're in and it and it sort of was one of my predictions about making fun of the people who watch ancient aliens the premise the entire premise of that show seems to be at one point. People were stupid and could not have built anything. Anything could not have crafted could have moved. Heavy objects could not have cut with precision. Could not have preplanned design and carried out such a design Because people of ancient days were just too stupid to have done so anti went in. Yeah and more. And more when you actual- actually study It the the innovation and understanding cleverness of humans in Hominids before humans going way way back millions of years you start to wonder why it took so long to do the come. I put a lot of these things because we were pretty darn clever right away hominids Ebay may though animals are also really clever. So I feel like this is part of the conversation where I'm with you I'm with you. I'm with you and then I kind of remember Erlich Weight but they're crows can pick appropriate materials for their tools and adjust shapes and sizes and store their tools and all sorts of so it even beyond just assuming humans are stupid. It's also the issue of assuming a stupid Basal Seoul relative when we now know that vertebrates in general are much smarter than we thought so even just recognizing thing if you came if the ancient hominids started out with what just relative vertebrates had. It's not that far to get here not as far. Yeah yeah absolutely I mean. Crocodiles climb trees for Sake. They use tools. Hockey tells us tools and then if crocodiles use tools that goes back to ancient reptilians. They work together in teams Ames Iowa sors strings play with the strikes Speaking of strengths many of us like to think think that our our brains are strong. They are durable They keep us doing what we want to do. And need to do to survive every once in a while however something goes wrong in the brain and globalist stomas conform globalist. DOMAS are the most aggressive form arm of brain cancer they They grow and spread wrapped rapidly and are really hard to eradicate because of the way that they growth through in and through the brain tissue. It's not a simple solid tumor that can be operated on removed and And we can move on there there. There are often many tendrils within the brain that make it almost impossible to get all of the tumor tissue so it's a really important important question to understand how global blasts DOMAS are formed. What they're made of what cell types are likely to become globe cleo blasts domoling in nature and how they even get their start to begin with and it's been a goal of researchers to try and study globe last Domas in the lab? But it's really hard to do so in living animals. They haven't been able to get tumor tissue the globe last Doma tissue taken from human brains to last very long wind transplanted into other animals like mice so they take Leo Blessed Oma Tissue You they put it into mice brains. It doesn't last very long so they don't have much time and it's not the right system for it to exist in so if it's in a system that's not maintaining it and in fact it's dying off that is not the activated form of Doma so researchers at at UCSF use Brain Oregon. Wade's little tiny clumps of brain tissue in dishes in the laboratory to be able to create globe last Doma cultures in the laboratory and so now they have been able to develop ulla system in which they are able to get brain Oregon. Wade's to grow from brain tissue. You taken from human stem cells and the tumors went implanted into the organizations Take to it. Almost one hundred percent of the time. According to the researchers they've published their research in cell stem cell to describe it And they have a an a now. They've discovered covered some really interesting things about glebe leftovers in in their work such as globe less domas unlike a lot of other cancer types don't appear due to originate from one kind of cell. They seem to doesn't seem to be a global blasphemous stem cell for To put it simply but there are lots of different kinds of of seed cells that seem to be involved in one that looks and behaves a lot like neuronal stem cell and these cells. These neuronal stem cells that are actually called outer radio. Gloria sell an org sell these. Org cells are more numerous in humans and primates mate's than any other mammals and this might be why they're not maintained well the the tumors aren't maintained well in mouse sprains because those org cells. Aren't there in the numbers to support the tumor cells normally disappear as brains mature. But what this suggest is the org cells are there during development and then they're supposed to go away but something happens to jump start them again. In adulthood the cells show up and globe last Domas are able to perform so there. There's something going on That has is led to a number of new questions which is always good for research but as lead to a pathway for potentially discovering What makes glebelands dome as tick and potentially leading to a real treatments for a devastating devastating deadly disease so so next to cocktail party hardy and somebody says you know scientists have created tiny brains and the dishes and somebody else says? Why would they do that? The new way this so we can study brain tumors but not in brains because then you have to chop chop brains and stuff living brain little living brains in cells. Yeah this is great. This is great work go go. UCSF woohoo the good news. Is We figured out what you have a brain tumor. The bad news is you're already dead because we have to cut open your head to figure it out or or or we we actually Find a cure for cancer in dead tissue that that point. It's it do it while they're still alive. Living Tissue Justin. Do you have another piece of science force out. Yeah I did. It's one that keeps vanishing from ice cream There's a new round of virus collection attention that just took place. They went and pulled virus genome out of twelve hundred something an insect species so these researchers they have been discovering and pooling collecting Through next generation sequencing viruses and classifying them From insects. That it's just sort of this is just sort of a beginning of wipe. This is going to be a really interesting story but we get a lot of disease is from viruses that are communicated by animals that we know of A- and if somebody is ill you can put them through a type of screening. That will look to see what if there's a virus that's affecting them but the virus itself is like a little bit of irony kind of a thing it's like it's really hard to identify if you don't know what you're looking for so the screenings that we have identify gentrify things from known of viruses. That are out there. This is going to be. What they are doing is cataloging these viruses services that they not seen before the day not known existed that they're discovering in all these different insects Will then be able to later. Be Put into the system so that if you go to your doctor with your mystery illness of one of these might pop up. So there's this is the very beginning stage of being able to perhaps discover illnesses that people get from insects that we didn't know came from insects. So this is pretty fascinating fastening. The other thing is too vague there. They've got all these different classes. I think they said twenty different categories stories of family of a virus from this hundreds and hundreds of new viruses that were discovered in are being added added to the database. Now so we are in. It's this is. This is still scratching the surface of our understanding international database of viruses. That are out there but this is pretty fascinating stuff last. Where who's doing this? The study is really interesting. But this is This is at the University of Berlin due to put this together published in an close pathogens public library of science online pageants. This is A. I love this I there are so many pathogens that we're aware of so there's the you know the Amoeba Malaria kind of pathogen. And then there's viruses like Zeka or no so many emerging diseases shaggy disease. I Guess Shaggy Disease Is. There's so many different diseases rabies infections. This is all virus based stuff and measles. I mean there are some that we we know. It's like if you go to mosquito area. You might get Zeka. These are viruses. Things that we know can get transmitted yellow fever or the all sorts of things stuff. Like men's roles is okay. That's person to person contact. And you think of certain diseases certain viruses in certain ways and I think the what you said really hit it on the head is how many diseases either unidentified diseases emerging diseases or even things that I have been around for awhile actually are virus or insect spread as those two person to person or but how did I get that disease. I haven't been around anyone well. There was a mosquito on an airplane that came over and Gotcha in their port. Who knows and we have done a pretty good job? Job of looking for ticket looking like ticks and mosquitoes and the blood transferring ones. We've been but yeah there's there's all kinds of little nats swallow or end up on our food or something like this. Why never even noticed that we'd have ingested there's a lot of insects that you would counter after that you may not be as aware of those opportunities those when you're writing your bicycle in Union hail of fly call you got a week later could have been actually that but but the point is we have to? We have to do the part where we identify them. I have avenue the minuted database so when you get screened It can pop up as a match. Otherwise it's not going to fight you're not gonna go to your doctor's office in they're going to screen out. We discovered discovered an unknown virus. That you have. It's not going to happen. It has to already be known and discovered and figured out before the screening process takes place otherwise it will just be noise to machine. I'm looking at this though. The in a total of what twelve hundred almost twelve to twenty one thousand two hundred five typed two hundred fifty insect species such a small number compared to how many insects there on the planet. There's somewhere on the order of just around thirty four thirty five hundred mosquito species around the globe. We worry about one mosquito species for for malaria we were. There are thirty four hundred mosquito species globally. Here they're looking at twelve hundred insect species at this database fully under a the West Nile virus In in yeah exactly and it. So this is the next generation sequencing though They were able to do twelve hundred species relatively typically quickly. I think it takes much longer to collect the bodies Does do the sequencing and bioinformatics afterwards words to see what was in there so we studied bud clusters at the mall. Just get out there and start. Start sending samples the University of Berlin. But let them know you're GonNa do do it. Don't Bug pacalypse happening. So even as we're worried about the insects we don't have to be worried about the insects. Well let's so you say this is the funny thing is that insects might need to move where they have been living and they might have to move move someplace like your house. Yes whatever mirus is outside our that. We're missing outing. The bubble as smile is in North America is because of climate change allowed for. I'm pretty sure it's allowed for the mosquitoes survive in places they didn't before so absolutely survive in spread. Oh Joy happy joy joy but anyway. That's passenger seating. Study you know what I think. There's a special time in the show that we're at right now. We haven't done it in so long. I kind of players animal coordinator with Blair yet and tab animal except oh well as a bit of a change. I have nothing but good news for you today from the corner. Yes the first is some amazing news that we have learned from grizzly bears. So we've talked on the show many times about whether or not bears truly hibernate but they go through a bodily change. That is very unusual usual. And we're not going to contest that grizzly bears. They are active starting around March through may around September. They start to load load up on food. The lots and lots and lots of food build up a good layer of fat and then sometime between November January they go into hibernate or go all through winter sleep or torpor or whatever you WanNa call it and during that time their metabolism their heart rate drop. They do do not go to the bathroom. They don't pee or poo they actually develop a fecal plug so they don't go to the bathroom at all so they can kind of recycle nutrients the amount of nitrogen nitrogen in their blood increases drastically and they become too. They become resistant to the hormone insulin. So as all this is going on they are sleeping for months. If a human did nothing but lay in one position for months and months they would have some problems there. It would be a lot of problems. one of them in particular is the atrophying of muscles so if anyone's ever had an arm or a leg in a cast cast for a few weeks or been bedridden for any substantial amount of time you may have experienced atrophy when you're muscles don't work the way that they did. You lose kind of muscle muscle mass. So who team of researchers from the neuro muscular and cardiovascular cell biology group at Max Delbrueck Center for Molecular Medicine in Berlin looked at how bear muscles managed to survive. I hibernate virtually unharmed. They might be a little wobbly when they first come out but other than that. Their muscles have not degraded and they do not show signs of atrophy. So so how is this happening and which genes are transcribed in the muscle. Cells converted into proteins. And what what effect this does this have on those muscle cells and can this be applied to Hubert's that's really the ultimate question. If they can better understand that what's happening in these bear muscles. They could potentially develop non intuitive methods some new methods to better prevent and treat muscle atrophy in human patients so they examined muscle samples from grizzly bears during and between the Times of hibernation so not during hibernation and they were are all from Washington State University. They looked at sequencing techniques with Max mass spectrometry and they wanted to see which genes and proteins are up regulated or shutdown during in between the Times of hibernation. So what's going on in proteins and what's going on in the genes that code for those proteins during these different stages for these bears they then compared those findings with observations in human mice end nematode worms. They found that proteins in their experiments influenced bears amino acid metabolism double ISM during hibernation which means the muscle cells had higher amounts of a very specific group of non essential amino acids acids any a in experiments with isolated muscle cells of human and mice that had atrophy cell growth could also so be stimulated by the non essential amino acids but they know from earlier studies that just administering the same non essential essential amino acids in the form of pills or powders doesn't prevent atrophy so there's something interesting going on here. What they think is that? It's it's important for the muscles themselves internally to produce the amino acids or they don't go where they need to prevent the atrophy so so knowing this they could use the genetic cues that they found to induce human muscle to produce use the non essential amino acids themselves by activating those metabolic pathways during long rest periods. So then they had to do a whole separate issue research item with the tissue samples to find the signaling milling pathways in the muscles of the grizzly bears. Humans in mice and then they looked at that in elderly bedridden patients human patients and mice suffering for muscle atrophy. How do you do that well? You put a plaster cast on a mouse. So they can't move that muscle so just visualize that for a minute. Okay moving on yeah exactly. Yeah I science. Though so they were able to find which genes are regulated differently between animals that hibernate and those that do not and then could actually look at that in nematode worms so because nematode worms are more simple genetically. They could actually narrow Arrow down in the NEMATODE worms down to individual genes that could be deactivated easily in order to adjust this muscle growth in the simulation of consensual amino acids so basically. This isn't ready for human use yet. It's ready for nematodes. It's ready for NEMATODE Matto. So we are many steps away. However this is a huge breakthrough we had no idea how bears could could keep from having this kind of degradation in their muscles their sleeping for months but knowing that there's a particular metabolic pathway their particular genes means that can turn on that metabolic pathway? And that can release the the kind of the chemical signals to maintain muscle those non essential amino acids. This could be a pretty big deal in human healthcare. Just just the deal I mean on one side. You have people who don't know broke their leg skiing and yes. It would be nice if they didn't have to go through PT. But I'm thinking more about especially elderly people who are sick in some some way but otherwise could have bounced back and got many good years left out of their legs or their arms or their body in general but because of the setback of being being bedridden for some time they just never get it back. It wouldn't it. Be Great if after you got over that pneumonia you could pop back up and be an active human again it would be pretty amazing. Yeah And for diseases that we are finding new treatments for that can potentially help help people with movement disorders My mom had multiple multiple sclerosis and became bedridden and she was bedridden so long that let her tendons shortened her muscles atrophied and by the time that she got to a point where there were medications that could possibly help the per a little bit And she could get physical therapy. It was too late. They couldn't achieve never. She couldn't straighten her legs ever again. It it was too late So you know this stuff it. If if this kind of thing had been around it could have changed so much for uh for my mom. I can see how that would have been a big a big impact not just and and beyond people who have movement disorders who are bedridden for whatever reason for people who are in Comas people Additionally you know thinking to for the future and in the fun aspect of it to maybe people who go to space That's the one that might be interesting. I didn't even think nice. Our huge atrophy problem For Limited Times in space even which huge limits the amount of time. The human should be canvas. Wow yeah that is such a good point well. They ended only choice showing all kinds of sci-fi where they're like they're just like zip everywhere fast speed of light and now we're going to do a little hard science we're going to put everybody into little sleeping. Keeping Chamber looking to wake up on the other side of the Galaxy in fine would be the thing that makes that happen. Yeah Yeah we learned from bears and canvas also lead. Why aren't we getting burs more for the bears? Like if there's a patch a firm missing yet the much of first comes back. Oh that's being studied. Yeah that's being pretty. Extensively studied the amazing healing qualities of hibernation. You know maybe this is the thing that cures baldness which as we know is such a horrible disease that's affecting I used to be. I got plugs obviously can obviously AARP looks but yeah that'd be the anyway we should send Mare's to space value way moving forward. I would love to see that they look adorable. This speaking of fecal plugs. This is the study specifically for Justin it is about bird and bat guts. And their microbiome acre bio he'll hearns out this is from UC San Diego. That bird and bat guts are very similar. The fact that they are extremely dissimilar let me explain Justin's working on that one feathered pooping same together is is the. Is it a community diverse within this this bird population. There's a lot of diversity within that population. There's a lot of the Russian I'm GonNa back up so. Uc San Diego. Compared the microbiomes of nine hundred hundred vertebrate species is a pretty large comparative study. And we usually some sort of evolutionary pathway in the microbiome if if you see an animal's Gut microbiome you can guess that. A relative of closely related species will have similar species of Gut Flora going up and and this is maybe because they are digesting the same types of foods because they have similar diets. It could be that it could be that the microbiome is evolving alongside the animals over the years going on. There's all sorts of potential theories there but generally speaking no related species tend to have similar micro house but we also know that birds are Weirdos. He can you confirm yes. I can Dan confirm so. Birds are weird as in this case because their microbiome does not appear to follow any evolutionary Canary Pathway. They're kind of all over the place there is a lack of similarity between related birds in their microbiome. So that's weird but this is where it gets interesting. The same goes for pets so hello from food. No yes the very different foods a lot of live in different areas. They're just not. There's no there doesn't appear to be any specific relationship with microbes an evolutionary history in either of these big groups bats bats or verse so what they have in common is their dissimilarity amongst their group. So why is this what we can see. Is that something about flight. Most likely messes with the micro ancestry. There's a bunch of theories as to why that could be and we could talk about that all day but the a man implication here is that perhaps a specific tailored microbial balance is not as critical as we thought in generally in normal digestion. So this could mean that. They're the flight actually has an effect on the microbiome making it less essential or it could be that this is just raising the fact that being a flying animal they they. They had a different strategy with their microbiome. And so it's actually ultimately what we're finding out is not as critical as we thought it was so so what evolutionary pressures are influencing these microbial communities to be so dissimilar or more likely. What I thought was really interesting? Is that when we think about what. The weight of our gut is consisted of actually a lot of it is microbes and the food that we feed our microbes and the a byproduct of the microbes flying animals end up. Having less general weight of micro biota on them that also means there's more turnover of the microbiome so it's possible that just a function of having to weigh less creates less consistency in the microbiome but then it does kind of ask the question of chicken and egg. Is it necessary but they figured out how not to have it or it's not necessary but everybody had it because it was easy to have it. Yeah so maybe it was a sufficient if you don't need to fly it's maybe am better efficiency the of digestion. If you don't need to lose it off or if I was also thinking and these are being flat airs they also so can leave areas where their excrement is rather easily may have a little further way relationship than most creatures. Ah Humans humans we kind of even though we have what we think is a very sanitary environment that we've created with the way that we handle our own mm-hmm we have hands so we touch everything and we use hands touch her said we'd touch really eventually our hands end up in interface it. We're touching ourselves bird's avenue ends. That's kind of do though don't they. Yeah their hands but maybe I mean how bats clean themselves. Is it similar to the way. Birds pre them as being like catch with looking. I don't know if they're putting they're they're yeah. They're licking themselves. So maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe it's not the food. Maybe it's not the flying per se but maybe it's the body design that it influences. How they how they keep themselves clean? That has but I also think that I'd be interested to see if they saw the same pattern in migrating marine mammals. Because because I think about what all these animals have in common there are a lot of migrating birds a lot which means you're covering sometimes half of the planet in a year so your or environment is much larger so you could see how if you're constantly if you're going if okay so basically birds bats mal the time time. Yeah so if you're pooping all the time to maintain a low body weight then you probably are dumping a lot of bacteria all the time so you could see some turnover because it's not staying in your gut as long process their food so fast you wouldn't need as much of a microbiome if if you're not processing most of the food if you're just dumping constant Cox chatroom has the has the the key all this as we look at some flightless flightless birds it is. There's some interesting questions here. Got Google is telling me that some bats do in fact migrate all right. Let's cut open a key. We find out that one doing ostrich there are any weakness is US eight. Don't you never come visit the zoo. Not Extras No. I wonder if there any would have a reflection of their microbiome. So we could pop open an ostrich egg the the outside when it comes out the outside so it's all tied not inside the egg but outside the outside the egg anyway so My the bird and Bat microbiome similarly completely dissimilar Kohler. That's wonderful. I think this opened up more questions which I always love. Blair I have. I have an animal corner present for you. Oh you do I do for your love of cephalopods. MSF enthusiast year Steph lengthiest There's a story out this week about cuttlefish in glasses. Yes researchers interested rested in how cuttlefish use vision to hunt their prey. Decided they needed to find out whether or not cuttlefish have stereo. Oh vision like humans and also like a Mantis shrimp and the way that they decided to do. This was to glue some some three D. glasses. Onto the cuttlefish head. The three glasses allow different images to reach each each is independently and so they could control images that were sent to the fish. They trained the cuttlefish then in to attack targets on a screen and then they adjusted how those images looked and then look to see whether or not the cuttlefish wish were on target off target and pretty immediately. They found that cuttlefish have stereo stereotypes or this Stereo Areo vision that allows them to be able to perceive depth in a similar manner to how humans do however it's an intermediate he it between humans and and the other Stereo vision organisms who who seem to need to use attack and can't chase their prey but need to be more accurate and so are able to also incorporate that incorporates spatial alterations as well so brightness verses depth and there's some or color and so there are very interesting aspects to this Stereo Vision by cuttlefish have stereo vision and now they look like in an eighties eighties video I was GonNa say they show them a nice thirty film. That's awesome. I love how they they had their tentacles up like. Why is it different colors which one how do I attack it? But yes and they also found that not. All cuttlefish will put up with having three D. glasses glued to their heads. Not all humans will either Komo a very small percentage of cuttlefish actually are conducive to I Guess Three D. movies. Well I I don't like going to three D. movies. I'm one of those people it doesn't work. Does the League too much through what's going on. Anyway cuttlefish and glasses. It's exciting cute little fish swimming around tacking things sometimes missing that Also okay Researchers looking at a spaghetti. That's right a a looked at spaghetti or lunch for science okay. Yes mechanical engineers from UC. Berkeley decided needed that. They needed to know exactly how to describe what happens to a spaghetti noodle as it cooks mathematically and so so they looked at Spaghetti as it cooked and watched it curl and they came up with various factors parameters to include in their equation Asian and they have some assumptions like. Oh the noodles aren't gonNA stick to the PAN as they're cooked in their Their factors the parameters they added eight or gravity density changes lasting as the noodles absorb water and Walla. They have cooked a mathematical breath. A medical model that predicts how the Spaghetti noodle will look as it is cooked. I mean it's not that different from approaching folding It's actually kind of similar very similar. Yes which we have models for that so can't be that different so the yeah. Ah The interesting aspect of the spaghetti noodles is yeah. It's predictable in the way that it is hard and straight before it goes into into the pot of water and then as it absorbs water it begins to bend and become more elastic until it gets to the perfect Al Dente state in which it will have curled up some and now it is now described. mathematically good I believe this running out of things to model you have. They really gotten everything else done. That was on the list of needed cost soon addict flaggy. Yes Pasta noodles it's very important And finally researchers From Trinity College in London have published in the proceedings of the Royal Society. be on their study of killing fish in Trinidad. One population of fish live in a river downstream that just full of predators nother population live upstream. Where there are no predators? They caught these fish. BROUGHT THEM BACK to the lab and looked at their brains as you do and they wanted to see what the differences between their brains they determined that the more predators there are bigger brains More brain cells and not just bigger as in cell sizes bigger but more brain cells so predators lead to you numb brain needing to process more information and needing more cells to take in the environment and to process what what needs to happen. Yeah you got it. Predators probably led to the evolution of humans. That's IT for my studies. Anybody have anything else for the hour or two. We have come to the end of the show once again. This is our first show of the New Year. And I think it's off to a fabulous start. Thanks player ingest in for a great show. Thanks for bringing it if I may speak for both of us just fun to be doing the show and we've got a whole new decade to do it in. This is excellent a frustrating. I'm new clean slate. All pass this is given the record. The prior been Whole Decade look forward to hearing what comes From our scientific community. Yeah we probably should have done a A prediction prediction of what's going to happen by the end of the decade Product self driving cars will be commonplace is by the end of the decade. I predict Artificial intelligence will be advanced. But we're still not going to be seeing it Taking over the world. You've predicted that it will take over the world. We just won't be. I predict there will be fully integrated mechanical mechanical prosthetic limbs in Iran. Yes brain computer interfaces are going to. They're going to go places in a decade. Yes yeah you are right there. That's GonNa that will take off. I mean yes the basics and then with companies like neuro link getting in on in on it. Yes it's GonNa go go. Oh places Yeah ten years from now. It's all through an animal corner. One in there I predict that we will be able to. Ivf something thing that has gone extinct mastodon or maybe just like a a rhino or something. Mammoth but but something that that has gone fully extinct we will be able to raise as IVF in a related species identity for predicts a Supernova wbur Nova Supernova Shugrue in the chat room predicts laser-printed Oregon's ooh Bio oh printing. Yes maybe we will have Gotten over that regenerative medicine issue of three dimensional organs and and being able to print them that ten years. You know the the the amazing thing five years it's like I don't think it's the it's kind of like all. The habit been bitterly five ten years down the road. Technology can change enough that it can make a huge difference. I mean things like The IPAD smartphones. You know those are those are things that we're not really something you could predict at the beginning of one decade to the end of the next and so and they're cheap things that changed the world and maybe there are technologies that are being worked. Don that we don't really know about at this point You know somewhere in In in Shanzen in in China or in What what is it? What is the area in Japan where it's all the techy stuff in Japan and maybe there are these things becoming a decade? That will also interesting. I think the the tools are already here for a lot of yes but utilization understanding how did crisper is a tool as technology that we are several steps away from knowing how to use this is this is the crisper is as a tool is like giving a laptop to one of those Ju engineers million years ago or were chipping south we. We just invented a tool that we absolutely don't understand how best to implement. We're going to have the knowledge base required to use this efficiently to do. The tool will continue to use a version of this continued to be used for for decades decades to come discover how to apply it. Because we're still are we are. We are many a few layers away from understanding all the interactions and biotech and an organism in engineering What we think to do so it's really exciting and and we it's funny how these things have happened once rather one of the one of the Interesting wants to me was always how we got. Satellite Television was more places in the world. Then cable cable is running a cord from one. Uh Hey we went up to space and had salads. Being people are putting satellite dishes out yards to watch. We had this huge Asia leap in technology ahead of what would be the sort of obvious little baby step towards and we have crystal have this huge leap of technology in. We're doing all these baby steps to figure out how to use it right and you know may end. Maybe that's what it is. It's two steps forward one step back and then a big jump the jump ahead. Maybe it's a really interesting game of Hopscotch Yeah crisper is going to be big stem cells are going to have excuse me a huge impact. It's going to be. Yeah and and Larry Cox is saying that Kai will be driving but maybe if self driving car is our big ten years. He he won't be knows I mean we'll see I'm looking forward to in ten years. Massive electrification sustainable energies booming around the globe and so electric cars increasing in number. Yeah so much so so much to see in ten years and we're going to be going to the moon. Yeah yeah the three of us. That's Twi- twist in space to to move your mind my control. I am a car. Justin Hologram Jackson will be Our ground control right absolutely. Okay let House everyone great great. How's the video picture that you could? Yeah Yeah it's just like that. This look what it looks like the end Steph curry end. Everyone thought a window gets out a window out of window. I hope you all or having a wonderful wonderful moment in time because really as Justin says so many times the only moment in which you can the moment in which you can do is now. Enjoy your moment. 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18 December, 2019  Episode 751  The Top 11 Discoveries of 2019!

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18 December, 2019 Episode 751 The Top 11 Discoveries of 2019!

"This is twists this week in science episode number seven hundred fifty one recorded on Wednesday December. Eighteenth two thousand nineteen nineteen the top eleven of two thousand nineteen. Hey I'm Dr Kiki and tonight we will fill your head with with a countdown but first twists is supported by listeners. Like you we thank you for your support. We really couldn't do it without U Julia Hammer disclaimer. disclaimer was the night before Christmas when all through the House. Researchers were stirring some with the mouse. The stories were gathered by the broadcast with care in hopes that the listeners soon would be there the patriot. John's were nestled all snug in their beds while visions of Supernova danced in their aheads Blair with her. Cornering Kiki with brains had just listen to Justin's Christmas disclaims when out on the interwebs there arose. Oh such a clatter. I sprang from the chat room to see. Just what was the matter away to the websites I flew like a flash clicked open search browsers and threw up some hashtags. When what am I wondering eyes should appear but a top eleven stories? Show the best of the year on this week in science. That's coming up next a kind of mine. I can't. I WANNA learn everything coming up with new happen every day. And there's only one place to the knowledge unwanted and a good science to you to Justin Blair and everyone out there. Welcome to another episode of this week in science but wait it is not it just another episode. Not like all the other episodes is it Kai. Yeah it's not kyw's it's the countdown I gotta remember. Last count on the might have not been here for them. Union super excited this my I countdown blue skies excited up. He's excited. He's got us into this. You want I need to hear me. Well Oh you're GONNA go to bed at some point dance with those sugar plum visions of science in your head. We are excited here. It was the night before twist Mus as we are counting down the top eleven stories of two thousand nineteen gene. We have news but it's all old news. News from the year passed but in this Justin Justin. Why is it that we count down? The top eleven again very Sudan every year. There's a top ten lists of top ten. Things that happened opened in the air on some sort of boxing category in subject matter and they always do ten and then you always have to be get left wandering. What was was the thing right on the cusp? That almost made it but didn't and we don't want you to wonder so this one goes up to eleven this land the twist countdown. It always goes to eleven that yeah okay. Are you ready for this really ready yet Blair. You're ready dot organic anyway. No and I was looking through these stories in preparation. There were some things that were so amazing. That happened this year. It feels like it happens super long ago because it just change the way we think about things so fundamentally so I can't wait to talk about those things in particular when a roof done. This show is how long long years. Yes one hundred percent when I was looking at some of them even as recent as June or July thinking that was this year. Yeah Yeah that what. That wasn't years ago. Oh No that was just months go. Sometimes it seems like science plods along and other times it just races ahead like a rabbit. That's for sure we're getting ready for the New Year so let's start counting it down but first before we jump into the show. Oh I would like to remind everyone that if you have not yet subscribed to this week in science you can do so you can find us on Youtube on facebook. You can also find us all all places that podcasts are found. Yes you can or you can just visit twists dot org twist dot org. You can also find the two two thousand twenty Blair's animal corner twiss calendar. You can order it there. Oh yes Chi was going to bring bring it up and and show it off. You could put it over here. There's got wealthier also has it. I'm ready yes. There are only twenty only about thirty left. Limited supply limited supplies. So addition. Get Yours now. Also if you are in the San Francisco Bay Bay area in the month January put the SF Sketch Fest Cal Academy Nightlife on January sixteenth on your calendar. We're you're GonNa be there doing a live show at the sketch fast. We've done a couple of times before and are so excited about making a return appearance and we hope that we get to see you there. They're at CAL Academy. I do believe teen all tickets for sketch faster currently on sale. So you should be able to grab those tickets anytime now anytime anytime all right now. Business is done. It's time to count it down and we're going to start at it's number one no eleven. Not countdown not Accounta- eleven eleven eleven eleven eleven eleven justin. What is it number? Eleven the evolution of this may be near dirty do most of our listeners. The evolution of life the origin of life even. That's kind of forty to me so a big year for out finding out that everything that we know about the origin origin of life isn't necessarily a complete picture or wasn't before because we're getting we're getting more hints. We're getting more clues onto how that primordial soup may have I been comprised so we had the the fatty acid membranes that we found that were being being stabilized by amino acids than forming member ads. This is not the this is not how we thought this thing started or wasn't the prevailing theory of what could begin life anew. In the early oceans so got some insights into the chemistry and the and membranes. They're essential for life so the ability to it was a big question before that study came out and you know people are still of course going to be looking into it further. But it's been a huge question how membranes could have really come to be stabilized and remember ever though the there was the the hydrothermal vents in the clay. These start to appear in this. This very porous clay then and then anything that's having chemical reactions within these little pores may be starting to form a membrane on the edges. Because that's the boundary that's already artificially preserving in the space but yeah isn't isn't finding Now actually there's a very natural way that that could happen without having that sort of simulated or confined space raced to force a map definitely changes. What the origin of life itself May Have Been The star we've got tagged in here the ancestor cells? This is that it wasn't a necessarily a progression from success single celled organisms to multicellular organisms. But from a Komo multicellular organisms may have started from stem cells. Yeah so yeah not exactly as change how we talk about the origin of multicellular organisms. uh-huh if the yeah and it wasn't it wasn't just stem cells. It was from a cell that was somewhat similar in its characteristics. Thanks to a stem cell in that it could become. It was pleura potent in a sense in that it had this ability. This progenitor cell. Oh had this ability to become other cell types or to match well with other cell types there certain characteristics of stem cells that they you think would have been necessary for multicellular life to actually take place to actually go from that big jump between little single cells living together other two more multicellular organism. Could it's a big question. We'll see still to play out. Yeah I think the reason this makes the list is is kind of what I was just talking about but we have a good idea about how life started. We think but as we kind of clear up the picture things are bound to be slightly different than what we anticipate and I think these are a couple of items that are really clearing up how things have have happened and I think it's exciting because there's always a little bit of of question marks In in that conversation and the more we know oh the better we can kind of explain it to people who don't have a superintendent understanding of the science behind it which I think is is part of the the difficulty when you talk about the origin of life is that you're trying to a high school student or someone without any scientific knowledge and you're trying to explain how we know what we know. The more we know the easier. That conversation is hat. Ah The more you know. Yeah yeah absolutely. It's not it isn't just the old story of a few ingredients. Greed agents in a glass jar and mix them together and twyla there was life now. There's a little bit more nuance and understanding to the steps. That may be took place. It's very thrilling. Moving on number ten. Yeah that's rain. Rain Oregon Noise Woah. What's an organ OI D- in Oregon is the big not bill? I mean on the cellular scale. It's a ball of cells. A big ball of cells not huge but you bullish cellular happy cells that live together Balti- cellular Lee in a dish. Researchers use organic foods do study developmental processes to try and figure out how different organ systems. uh-huh maybe develop Without having to actually work on Developing organisms. So if you can see the steps that the cells go through the genes that get activated that you can get a better idea of how development really takes place and this last year there were some really. The interesting organized studies that involved. Human blood vessels where they finally were able to Create organizations that have more or the the most cell types that would be part of creating real blood vessel's at some point And they were able to use these organisms to start looking at vascular diseases and other things and potentially lead to new treatments but the most most interesting or organized studies that I saw this year had to do with human brain still brain cells so they use stem cells to create brain cells and then They put human brain cell org annoyed 's into into into mouse brains and then they connected together and they enabled mouse spinal cord neurons is to activate and for muscles to contract And the system contracted it did. Its thing there was another study where they let human brain organizes develop for a long period of time and the organ woods started rhythmic electrical solutions. The neurons acted like neurons connected to each other. They wired up. They started having brain type activity. You and so. This is really suggesting that we're on the right track for a lot of research. That's going to be taking place in the next few years to figure out. Ah About Diseases related to brain development things that happen before before kids are born that are genetically related That like like I said hopefully can lead to treatments I think one of the One there's the caveat though however that not all of them they're they're not as similar to real brains as we want them to be and in fact because they're not in living organisms and they're in these petri dishes Che's that the Petri dish environments Kinda stressful for these little brain balls and that. Yeah so they're not necessarily in modeling. Modelling a perfect brain development system. They're modeling a stressed out developmental system. Potentially which could have have. It's its own set of drawbacks is so are they trying to say that. The reason they're they're firing kind of like normal brains is because they're so freaked out the no. No they're saying that it's just not a good experimental environment that it potentially isn't going to give as accurate results that it's not. It's not a normal not a normal brain. It's it's a brain that's not connected to the body. It's a little ball of cells that it's trying to do what neurons do but it doesn't have anything to connect to. It doesn't have anything at body talking to it telling it what to do. And so the ball of cells is it's a little bit stressed out and potentially it's not existing in the most perfect perfect cellular bathing environment right. They've probably got Their bathing the cells in a nutrient Rian Bath. But maybe it's not optimized. Maybe it's not. The best ca chemical cocktail nutrient cocktail for these for these little brains. We'll I like that. This is a this kind of a nice opening and closing of a loop of saying okay. We have these organizers that could be experimented on their proving kind of concept concept as many brains. Let's test them as an experimental subject before we get going which a bunch of other stories that we talked about this year had to do with how for example mice or not perfect study subjects the way we were taking care of them and so this is a really good example of how science has kind of recognized that we need you to check out the the test stability and the impact of testing on a subject or an organized or whatever it is before we get too far along in the. Let's it says everything on these mini brains and figure out how brains work right it's the fallibility of the experimental setup. You don't have all all the answers a lot of a lot of time. Scientists are doing the best they can trying to figure out all the details. But you don't necessarily know all the details that are needed needed and you don't know if you have created the perfect scenario in the end zone you're doing the best you can with what you have. Yeah Cap as an interesting point. Thanks Blair Very interesting she remove on. What did you have a comment? Yeah well like about the brain balls MHM It's about the brain moles One thing that we could do to make it may be more like I know it's going going on is that we could baby figure out like how our body works more. We could study more about how our body works and figure out like more about the muscles and how we could actually make it. Make new organs building organs and body and basically a body for route but then make sure that it but then make sure that's not conscious right it wouldn't you wouldn't want it to be conscious if you're doing those experiments on it yet. It or a little body for that that the mini brains defeats the purpose. So I think he's right. I actually agree agree with you and it doesn't have to be too complicated. A you would need at least one form of sensory input and I and one form of it using that sensory input like to put your muscle or to to do to do something with it and that sort of maybe completes the circuit of what a brain is supposed to do take in information process it. Make a decision in action based on that that input uh-huh and so with that you know it might be a little bit less lescot. Okay oh I got the light flash now I know put your muscle. Oh I did hate myself a little kind of Laurent themselves. Yeah this is the this is the sort of what that setup that up is designed to do it doesn't have to be really complicated but no And then if it becomes conscious can start really having fun then we have conversations you need to have an lying at our culture and what the universes and what what existence means. Let's meet our my the universe. Yeah it's flashes of light. Give me more of them will. It could just be very very simple at the car what we are what. We're here to do a simple. Which is a countdown counted down? Let's keep counting down number nine. Nine nine number nine is all all about human evolution. and You I'm GonNa talk about so basically The long in short of it is we found out that hominids are older than we thought that they got up to more complicated stuff than we thought and the braided raided stream continues on much closer to current time than we thought so. Just a couple of tidbits here. We found that Denisovans came from at least two hundred thousand years ago. There were stone tools that may have begun as early as three hundred thousand years ago. neanderthals visited a site that we found between two hundred one hundred thousand years ago. So there's lots of old timey staff. There was another one From teeth we found Denison traits in human molars discovered in China for about one hundred sixty thousand years ago. The oldest human out of Africa. Ever you just found a actually a hundred and fifty thousand years past when we thought around two hundred and ten thousand years ago in Mongolia we found stone own tools from about forty five thousand years ago about ten thousand years previously than we thought the First Upright apes about ten million in years ago much farther long ago than we thought And so just in general. We're older than we thought we have blended with other hominids more recently than we thought and we got around more than we thought so. Justin has anything to add. The denisovans interaction is like two hundred. Two Thousand Years Denise Windsor much older than that and then the time I think this year this is where I start to get confused on the years within the enter thoughts pushed back based on dental records from think from about four hundred thousand years that they've been roaming Europe to somewhere in the neighborhood of Yasser the eight hundred thousand years ago. Yeah so what. We're what we're finding is the path of hominids and all of the dates that we we have a based on the information. We have time so when we get more information that shows them for the back. That's when we push him back further but yeah neanderthals doubled in in their domination of parts of the world As their own thing denise which is better we need some really good they meese of DNA to find out a little bit more about how much that braided stream with amidst. y'All don't think the braided stream makes it harder to identify purely early. Denisov Indiana. Well that's why we need. We need really good Denise D. N. A. There's hope for it to I. I'm an once you have that in. Then you have to go. Here's where one trait was by itself for a very long time You you know the we we now have tagged Denisa WTN's as giving People that high-altitude ability in the Tibetan plateau. Is that the best. Yes you're you're so we have some of that we now know are associated with. And what's interesting is. This is a recent study that we haven't done yet but they just did a complete human genome off offer of basically bark sap chewing gum from five thousand years ago. Yeah so we've got we're going to get some more of those clues to find out how intense separated stringers. I'm guessing what we then are talking about right. We're talking about pockets of isolation that then come back together always over and over again because before four before before meander thaws before Neeson's there was already a braided stream before that so you're right other types of animals to this is once again a reminder that we are just animals I think another Another part of the discoveries were the use of genetics looking at human in the human genome and then other species and hominids species and the discovery that there are genes in there. That can't be. He can't be pinpointed to any known species. And so that means that there are missing species that we have not yet found and that we haven't found their bones. We haven't found them that so there's there are missing ancestors we have some of the bones to we haven't we don't have their DNA them. That's that's crazy thing. We might have more of the puzzle pieces than we think and then that one one more find then allows us to see the picture that were supposed to make by fitting them together and then suddenly they started just in from a u u usually bring these stories to the show. Is there anything like thinking back on this year in particular that is like stood out to you as you know was it. Genetics was it. You know just cool finds that were reported or is there any kind of common thread. I was actually the the high altitude trait of your of your Sherpa. Folks for instance or something Thursday. The fact that they have attributed that to denise Stevens and The job owned that they found that they for the longest. Time didn't attribute denise at that was a good year for denise events what's what's really incredible on all of this. Is that it you see all of the different displays. You see morphology and Dan the dental record being able to create a timeline. You're finding geologists being able to know the train in the formation rocks and how old things are telling you what where you found something as in dating this have hard science carbon dating type techniques in the Nagy of this genetic record is well that is giving us a further and further insight so it's all the disciplines working together putting their one puzzle piece down in seeing how it fits. It's with the rest that people have come to the table with over note and I think that brings us to the next number in our countdown number. Eight eight eight. Who officially fossil one this was? This was a pretty wild. They found So this the jets Columbus the meteorites asteroids whatever was hit the hit basically wear the Gulf of Mexico is now white that dinosaurs dinosaurs sixty five million and I don't recall where where this was. This isn't Montana. North Dakota Somewhere Dakota North Dakota so a pretty decent distance from the ground zero but this particular location had a lake that at pushed out in the fish got covered in mud and so we got a really good record of time line of give vent in the way that these fish were fossilized. When of the things from this is that like after the event you may have been pushed out all your fish may have been pushed up onshore may have been thrown going back into the lake moving covered with a layer of might have still been serving and then suddenly these little glass beads started raining down like two hundred something miles per hour embedding molten into the into the ground pitted the surrounding soil the fossils but this debris but added it but they had discernible time points in this so they sort of back evolve the whole scenario scenario? Not only what was going on at this way to these fish but what was going on in our atmosphere what Lee ambient temperatures will require with the The impact must've bent to created what they witnessed and the geological and fossil record together. Yeah that was just the whole story. They were able to compile from the layers from the various pieces of evidence. That's all in this one location. It's I mean it's I think it's one of those geological Paleo geological finds and reports that it's like it's a tour to force its Ground shaking just perspective engaging perspective changing study and I think it I mean it on its own without any other stories to go with it it it it is its own category its own number on on our countdown to because it was so amazing. I mean it's impossible to know exactly what happened that Fargo right and I mean you can understand what physics tells you based on what we think occurred and what elements earned the atmosphere and how these different kind of things going on. Might respond respond to this impact event but to have a clear understanding of what happened in this very pivotal moment in our planet's history. He is super cool. It is and I'm glad I wasn't there really fun. Time time. It was important as are a lot of not fun. Things that have happened in our own personal histories. They were still middle and import and very pivotal. If you just tuned in this is this week in science and we are going to move to the next number in our countdown on which is numbers Artificial intelligence takes up the number seven spot on our countdown this year. Artificial intelligence was all over the place. He's computers algorithms. Were solving problems right and left doing things that had never been done. Previously by a artificial intelligence artificial intelligence convinced people. It was as smart as an eighth grader. That's pretty good It passed it passed a test The Allen Institute artificial intelligence developed an. Ai called a Hristo that was has been trying to pass the test and it finally dead. It's cognitive reasoning and natural language processing a lot of score better than ninety percent on a science test geared toward eighth graders however are they didn't have to do any written answers it was really scary. Roemer is terrible. Sound like robot very robotic grammar. What's going on a Rubik's cube solved by artificial intelligence? Artificial intelligence is being used to make confusion more efficient. Artificial intelligence is with deep learning networks. Are are going to be used for protein folding the and figuring out how proteins fold neural networks. Oh boy won miss. It developed a number sense that matches neural activity and monkeys is basically an artificial intelligence could count. It knew it could figure out its numbers it having it got a math sense as good as monkeys. one of my favorite stories. That actually was Something we I mentioned. But we didn't go into deeply on the show was a hide hide-and-seek artificial intelligence a an art of an. Ai Was taught to play hide and seek and the based on the rules that it was given it ended up actually breaking the game. It made up moves that nobody expected it to make and it beat the game and basically it broke it it the way. I was smarter than the game based on rules. It had Google's deep mind A. I beat starcraft. It's a grandmaster master in starcraft which is a big deal considering all of the strategy and the multiple variables that are in play in the massive massive multiplayer online game And also artificial intelligence is being used to outsmart Internet censorship chip in countries that censor their citizens. An Algorithm called Geneva outsmarted The sensor tools that are in place in countries like China so I recognize. This was a big year for a and I was just thinking about how we've talked on the show a lot about. Ai Winter her and how when a is doing really well. There's a cyclical issue. But I actually am weirdly optimistic because I feel like the average average Joe five years ago ten years ago when you say the words. Ai They think about the terminator they think about a robot. Gone bad but I think now the average joe or Jane perhaps because of the access to the Internet and understanding a little bit better what. Ai Is and and what can be used for. I think public perception is changing. I think it's something that is more tangible now. And you can understand how you can use machine. He learned to search through databases and improve healthcare. And all these other things in a way that I I this could be saved for the production show. Perhaps but I am optimistic about this and I feel like this is proof. This year that the more we learn about ai in some ways the less scary it gets which you know for me also is like a big deal. I'm actually hearing you say this and I was thinking. Wow Blair. This is Blair turning a corner on this topic. I'm still scared of certain things coming from me. I like the fact that it can avoid censorship. That's kind of scary. Or then you'll end up communicating and have park and ended up having conversations with you. Yeah that's just is creepy. That dash at people have actually done that. Yes yes creepy. But at the same time you know I think twenty eighteen am. I wrote a script for a Sitcom Tom or something and it was not good so i. It's still kind of see how a I can be used for some really important things but it still pretty undetectable yes in in cases where there's human on human interaction normally and I think that's that's where I feel a little more comfortable as like your series eerie. Still half the time doesn't know what the heck you're asking it so it's if it can't do that but it can sort through millions of data points like that and find and trends and help with science in a big way I think it's it's changing public perceptions that at least from my perspective and defend the AI. I writer if I may Human Writers have editors who go in do a lot of and they have a group group that usually gives them feedback in the they make adjustments. Arcane adjustments are usually no human talks like that. But I'm just saying is I'm just saying you also need to train the to be the editor to be the friend who goes now. You can't go with that. You want to keep your job. You WanNa work in this right right. Yeah now so the whole other bunch of a is the needed to put with that they I- to get a better script than the one that they got this. Any writer's first I draft on their first script and he'd be Barrow it all out feedback every editor. Yeah Yeah that that said though I think a lot of these stories There is always a caveat so the starcraft the deep mind day I from Google playing starcraft players did start kind of figuring out which ought anonymous player was as the AI and had they had to develop strategies to try and keep people from guessing who their who their a I player was And then also like. I said what the eighth grade testing computer they didn't it was. They weren't able to test on all the factors of the test because is it was an AI. and not a person and so not able to do some of the some of the the testing procedures Gaffe so there's there's still a long way to go and yeah we'll figure it out on. I remember from last year. Two thousand eighteen. The go playing Ai Okay I the go champions said that they could they they were learning from these moves. They were moves that no human would ever make so there was a detection of the difference by the champions so a a tool not. It's it's not it's not. It's not taking over our world yet. Yeah it's going to be helpful. And that takes us to the next category gory. Where are we on our countdown? Seven per number six. Oh so l.. Bring you a new kind of a animal intelligence. This is a particularly big year for animals. Showing us that they were in fact quite quite smart and in some cases close to as smart as a human a lot of the time it comes down to the methods right the way that we test. Animals is human unbiased when we look at intelligence and so once we learned how to adjust our testing methods. We find out oh turns out. Animals are smart will start with the obvious obvious. One Crows. We know crows are smart but this time we actually found that it looks like they can infer how heavy an object is by seeing being held the wind blows it around which is in all at once insane and makes perfect sense. WHO's the natural? It's it's a natural phenomenon but when they're very familiar with Themselves being something that lives in wind as as as part of like. We don't think we think of wind is blowing but we don't think of it as like a second gravity event that's going to determine our pass through space. Yeah it's it's just an external impact on something you might care about. And so of course they're gonNA they're gonNA start to figure that out. This is a big year for bees. We've found that bees can identify number symbols. If they're trained. How which? We had a whole long conversation. About whether they're just associating numbers burs with with certain quantities. And if that's different from what we do which I argue it's the same. Were taught a symbol. That means a number. And that's that we also oh found that bees are able to discern art style. One was I know what Beezer art critics Knicks so they can tell like impressionistic art an art deco anyway We also found out that African grey parrots already very very very smart birds. Could actor actually figure out versus Through inference by exclusion if something was in one cup or another other cup so basically show them an empty cup and they would know that. It's in the other cup which sounds basic but it is a a pretty important logical argument. We've we found that apes could In the absence of behavioral cues they could look at their past experience and apply that to another individual vigil so basically there were there. Were these kind of goggles. That were either clear or had Blocks to their visual abilities and then if you put them on another our animal or a human they would be able to infer that that human is having the same experience that they had just great. We found out that rats are less stressed out when they drive cars. I I mean I like to go for a drive Relaxing drive every once in a while. But you know I never thought the rat wanted to also also yeah and we also went out that wasps Have basically they understand the transit of property they have human deductive powers as if as greater than be it'd be as greater than C than a is greater than see great stuff and Yeah just generally found time after your time that animals are very smart that they have a cognitive abilities similar to humans but usually we just didn't figure out yet how to test it so as soon as we start. Start to figure out how to test animals. We're GONNA I'M GONNA assume. Continue to find out but animals are quite smart. I also think this category are number. Six six could have been the well Duh. Yeah I mean to Haas but I also feel like people who don't spend a lot of time with animals or time talking about or reading about animals don't necessarily know those things I've had conversations with people on their first visit it to the zoo asking of animals have feelings and it wasn't a mean question. It was just kind of not understanding how similar we are arch to other animals in the world and the more we can kind of identify that and recognize have similar we are there's conservation impacts here right so the the better. We understand the cognitive abilities of animals. There's a better chance of us to recognize how similar we are and how they deserve the same protections that we do and we. We can work together to help preserve those species so of course this is something that's very near and dear to my heart as well there. The other really interesting thing isn't just that they are intelligent Belgian but that they have a Sort of plasticity within their intelligence to two different things. And that's the thing that we we tend to assume that animal intelligence is tracked into being that animal is or what how they behave what they do. And that's just it as if it's just instinct and not something that they can have some control over and write that their role offer in new ways and yet it has impact on nature versus nurture conversations. Absolutely because yeah and on N. it has implications on evolution to where you can sort of picture suddenly. There's been a drastic change and it's not just instinct in memory marine Behavior that will carry you on because all of those things are now lost you in a sense But in a new environment intelligence elegance could be the difference in in surviving and adapting right. And then you start to wonder. was there a common ancestor for these. These things are did they pop up on their own individually evolutionary time progressed. Have we had some of these cognitive abilities since before we had backbones or has it come up again and again because it's so advantageous so yeah I think there are there kind of cascading implications here. A lot of it may seem obvious to us but it's it's great science science with lots of of cool implications. Yeah I mean it go there you know very simple things like parental care. You know what goes what are the things I care about my son and I you know I love him but I'm GonNa take care of him going to feed him. I mean keep him warm. I'm GONNA protect him. I'm going to do all these things things right and so did dinosaurs. Yeah so do you know so two birds. Today's so do you know sorta frogs so two frogs exactly exactly. There's there are a lot of examples of this and so yeah. How which behaviors are conserved really far back which ones things are more modern in their In their evolution and that reminds me of like the one. I think it was a a study that Justin brought up that apes today are smarter than humans used to be a long time ago so humans and apes have both gotten smarter more intelligent bigger brains over time but and then you have yourself art art apes getting smarter because of human impacts on their forests site. Yeah walking smarter anyway. It's it's it's time goes by. were all as evolved as every other life form. Yes Oh we may have done more with our time. We've all had regardless arrives in the same soup. Yeah absolutely down podcasting and I guess some of the point then too is that If AH creature does find a really good niche that just works for them. Maybe you don't have to rely on the intelligence. And that doesn't become a selective trait and then you know maybe some of your animals. It's just always had it easy. Rip Go those. I'm sorry does so so they weren't that those were not dumb by the way they were friendly they were they were just would you could argue is dumb because humans turns out you know By Cook Yeah they have predatory vision. That's that's K.. Immediately like hey this bipedal thing with forward facing is is interested in me. Maybe I shouldn't be as best friend so I would argue. Intelligence might have something to do with that just an IRA also almost gone extinct. Not Quite Yahoo Abdur. KOALAS poor extinct. Yeah and we learned this year that maybe we should be giving them poop. poop transplants. Why that's right her bacteria they need bacteria to be healthy? You know we have come to the end of the verse half of our countdown and we're going to take take a quick break. We have five more to go. What is going to be in our top FI? I yeah stay until after the break to find out. We'll be back in just a few moments with more this week in science coming up next. 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We're back yeah and we are continuing our countdown. We are now at number five. This is another rare air. One in which a single story got its own category the end of the air but it was the imaging of a black hole the whole and there were there was actually a lot of black holes stories black will be its own category for other reasons roulette interesting things rattling around black holes the VA leave us the peaks we took towards the center of our own. You Alex back home. We had a fun time. Because is this is this black hole story is this space story is cosmetology or this physicist story nor does Oh. It's the mathematicians who who do figure it out that the angles at the thing. It's a mass talk to put all the data together. Scientists that made it manager so all of it comes together these disciplines of science working together and we have an image of a black hole. Now how do take an image. From which light does not escape. Aw that's tricky see you can't Ended this. I just can't let we know the picture and it came back completely black with no light was. We'll know what they had figured out is because of gravity works around a black hole there's certain angles in which light that is passing around will get zipped back at you. And that's what they captured so and it's the that's beyond the radius in which things can't come back out again complicated. A veteran that combines very narrow bandwidth actually the of light that they were able to capture that was affected by this black hole. And that's where it sort of makes this very interesting if the angle of the the light that was heading towards this by call is a little less a little more. You don't see it gets absorbed Gets the flick could often do some for off by university. Never see it with a certain angle just a certain degree at which all the way around the late will be able to focus be focusing back our way. Yeah I loved the The aspect of this where they used detectors all over the planet to basically basically create a a telescope that was as big as the planet may turned earth into the detector by I putting all of the detectors together into one giant soup. I like the description there. But it's not calling you a picture of a black hole but we shape shape of a black hole shadow right and what did it look like and so that was the thing as well. Is that it because because you're not looking at the light reflected from or emitted from the black hole. You can't say that we took a picture of a black hole and they it didn't it. It's the shadow. And it's The the light that is pulled around the black hole and then whips lips around doing a gravitational slingshot around the black hole back towards us and so all the late that goes toward word the block holman swings back at us and we get to get to see that picture. And so it's kind of the Sh- it's the shadow is what they've said Because we're getting the those angles like Justin was saying and the And it's also the gravitational effect of the black hole on those particles of light that have swirled around the black hole and so Depending on the angle old that we're viewing it from UC diff. The shadow looks different based on where where we see it from our angle of view. But what I loved I loved the Would it came down to theory of what this would look like versus reality of what it looked like when they actually put the picture together they match they absolutely match and in and mm-hmm and to the so closely to that it's did you really need to do it if you know all science. Did you really need to do it if you knew it was going to happen. We need to to prove that what we thought would happen. Yeah I mean that's the point right because something different happened. Then you go. Who Eighty minute were? Where are my perceptions wrong young so hey are black hole perceptions? They're right on which is pretty awesome just a little bit of a tick ler four roar. Our top eleven of the decade. I just WANNA say when we're talking about black holes and we're talking about dark matter since I started on on this show. Our understanding has changed so much so much of it has just been like well. We think. Maybe maybe it'll act like this because we have these clues that maybe we understand what theoretically could happen if it's real and then it's just just completely changed to being so much more. Concrete and understandable pretty cool. Yeah I think there's there's so much we still L. don't know for sure we are. A few of our interviews have made that very clear. And it's really neat. You know you see all the headlines that are like we figured this out and no no. We didn't really. There's little teeny. Tiny piece of the puzzle is just a theory just an idea But in the case of this black the whole study I think what grabbed everybody's I guess. Global consciousness was the the hard work of the many people oh who worked together from multiple disciplines to make it happen to make it possible and then the few the few people who humanized it who became became you know the people we saw the The YOUNG FEMALE GRADUATE STUDENT OR POST DOC. who's moved onto a different position since but Her face on discovering the black hole became this rallying. Cry For Women in science girls in stem It's you know showing that everybody. The diversity is important in science and you know we have when we all work together as a team it gets even better. We can do amazing things like look at a black hole but not really just shadow. Yeah okay moving on from number five. What comes next her or Hong Doc brains narrow science neuroscience rocked it this year? There were some incredible all stories from researchers implanting false memories of songs into birds. Heads that I mean. What false memories? In birds the birds thriller never heard the songs but the researchers made them think they did which has really interesting implications wins for the for memories and our understanding of what is real and what is not Additionally there were there was a study eh with researchers working on I think it was mice. That did something very similar Able to they they were able to give the mice stimulate cells in the neurons in the mouse's visual cortex and make them see things things that they were not actually seeing so they stimulated seeing And so the question is whether it's a method whether the method is recreating real vision within the brain or is it still just a simulation of vision. We don't really know that for sure but That has it also further implications for being able to let people who cannot see have site. Where are you going to freak anybody out? But seeing seeing light is a simulation stimulate it. You can't actually see anything anything it's true. It's true my gosh. Everyone's minds just blew a but don't have that happen because yeah What else did we do? Oh so many brain computer interfaces. I mean that was one of the big things this year. We had Brain to speech decoders. There were a couple of stories. On advances in these decoders that could take signals from the brain and create speech synthesized. I speech Out of out through a computer Or is using one of them used voter technology to do that. another one from the From UCSF was able to take full sentences from neural activity in the motor cortex to be able to translate those Other researchers are improving the accuracy of brain computer interfaces that control robotic arms then of course who can forget Elon Musk's company neuro link that made waves this year talk that had a presentation. They published a paper detailing their efforts with their robot and with their brain computer interfaces to improve the interface that make like their mesh technology and and they're hoping to get to human trials within the year. I haven't heard anything yet. I mean we're still waiting for it but I don't know And additionally additionally we had brain to brain transmission researchers used EEG and Trans Cranial stimulation so nothing actually in the brain. It was all surface of the head stuff so from outside the brain researchers demonstrated brain to brain transmission of information Russian and the the two studies. That really kind of blew my mind this This year there was is a A study that was looking at human brain preservation and they They were able to actually show that it seems like yes. The human brain does have new brain cells created throughout life that are born in the brain throughout life and Russian researchers in the final one russet Russian researchers were able to watch thoughts that were taking place in the brain in real time. They're reconstructing thoughts from brain and they were watching them in in real time not recordings and the And the accuracy the The resolution of these images these thoughts from the brain were no people just imagining things. Think of a flower okay. I'll think of a flower. And they're they're looking at it on the computer screens. It was. It's it's IT'S A it's a leap forward in brain reading ability by computers. That's one of the ones that gets into kind of the distorted. The future still a little bit like that's like you can read my thoughts a little bit and I don't like it. Yeah but they I yes potentially it could lead to awesome things leg being able to. If you're a fighter pilot being able to interface in Split second timing not having having to have as long of a delay for motor signals to go down to your hand to be able to Control the control stick for I for flying for flying fighter jet or something like that you know maybe you could interface even faster or your beer. Ab You can interface with your games that much faster. Play that much faster better stronger or if you are you know in a locked in syndrome right if you're paralyzed if you're if you're in a coma if you're in a coma. How can you communicate with people? Maybe these are the technologies that will help Blair you can always take it to the distortion places but but but the reality is that most often the things are going to be used for good. Yes but this is also why we have you know certain accrediting accrediting bodies and conversations and restrictions on these sorts of things. So that the these things all into the wrong hands so they will. That's the point is going to be all of the above. It's going to be used for good. And it's going to be used for L. L. A.. Lot of these a lot of these sort of a cutting edge both ways or potentially you know a dire future girl. A great outcome kind of reminds me of something like a non lethal weapon. Like the Taser or something like this. Yeah it's it's an alternative to the shooting in some ways is going to be some social benefit to having a less lethal weapon that police can defend themselves with on the other your hand. It's probably going to get used a lot more end up with a lot of people who shouldn't ever have been taste and a a few less people getting shot. But it's you're GONNA get the benefit with the ill on any and that's not a reason to rot. Proceed in technology so no it's also the Internet has such a wonderful boon to society and its would've got pissed off list list horrible things that you could ever exposed and sometimes listening to me sends me ads. I don't want and other times. It's listening to me and it helps me find a place when I'm lost so so their presence in the things in concert everything on security cameras people have lost their password or headed added to figure it out because they use the same password too many times. Something got got the hat the now all of their passwords ends up people. Try the password on their home security thing and have access to via video inside their house owes well as audio where they can talk to so then you have if somebody saying awful horrible things somebody freaking out in their home which they were obviously already paranoid enough to put security cameras. In which was worse it was the beginning with. You're going to get both with every technology and let's talk about a positive thing. What yes? That's positive yes Blair. What's our next number number? Three three he we. I WanNa talk about I was very excited to bring this up because I feel like before even started looking through things for the year. This was the topic that kind of was calling going out to me from the void about what was so special about twenty nineteen and disease cures this year has been an amazing boon to the technologies and methodologies for curing deadly or devastating disease in humans We had a study from University of Buffalo looking at reversing Alzheimer's disease which for anyone who has been touched by this disease or has known someone who's had at it is obviously a pretty big deal. This was in mice so not yet in humans but the idea of reversing kind of the Swiss cheese if occasion. That happens to your brain during Alzheimer's is a pretty big deal. There's also there were two different situations where. HIV was removed or cured. Which is insane an so exciting so one of them was actually the second? HIV patient who's appears to have been cured of infection by a stem cell transplant. The other one was something thing using crisper cast nine through gene editing. They were able to cure someone of HIV Through that process this was a proof through concept not yet used in treatment but something they were looking at That one's really cool. Because they basically they they stimulate the HIV produce particles and darts machinery up. And when it does that then they send in the crisper cast nine chop chop it out of the cells. So it's like turn on your machinery go. And then they go in and they'd snip it out it's a trap exactly. HIV is a bigger part of that is getting to turn on. It's been like a Wacko thing like the virus has the ability to hide right even if you have an corrective treatment to it if the treatment can't get to the JV it does no good right so you can ignite not aides. It can sit latent. There's all kinds of stuff that that impacts that There was another story that we talked about where crisper was able to fix retinal deterioration which is a huge impact Also a Japanese woman was the first world's receive a corneal transplant and it appears to be going well so so we we are looking at potentially restoring sight. People who've lost sight Ebola. There are some new drugs that have been trialed where it looks like. They're able to reduce the mortality rate from a Bulla And then just in general throw all all the diseases out the out the window one of the biggest killers getting old. There's actually eight hundred. Were drugs now. That are being tested. And on average they shed about two point five years off the biological ages of subjects. This was nine healthy volunteers. That was a cocktail of three drugs and then in mice there was another one where they use gene therapy and they were able to reverse symptoms of age related diseases in mice so we looked at hearing a bunch of diseases but also just versing the aging process. which as you know is something something? I am very interested in Blair wants to live forever. I WANNA live forever. Yep Yet you know visit again. Double Edginess of things. His Jim said this young the positive news number Chris down now number number to offer these people living longer and surviving diseases. means that global warming will kill a lot more people crime higher body out. Yeah Yeah so nappy see reports everything in. This isn't just this year but it's like every year everything is coming out with Eh. Yeah we're trending towards the highest or using Things that they hadn't even thought a look at it the time worse things are hotter. The melting is faster The consequences are becoming more clear in more dire yet. None of it is good news number. This goodness I would say the frequency of the news is kind of good though because as as this show is progressed. I it has become very clear that we are not the only ones talking about this. It is not a fringe topic viz an everyday conversation that is becoming more frequent which is the only way. We're going to get ourselves out of any of this trouble so the fact that it's becoming a more mainstream conversation that people are talking less and less about whether it's happening in but how it's happening what the impacts are and what we can do about. It is a huge shift in the conversation. So that's kind of my plug as the silver lining here is is that this huge avalanche of climate change. News is also a symptom of the fact that it is a larger narrative than it ever was before. Yeah it suddenly gone from being in on a few websites to being talked about on the nightly news to being discussed I just saw a story tonight. About renewable energy sources and in the lead into the topic topic the people said burn coal releases carbon dioxide and carbon dioxide contributes to climate change. And so that was it was straight great up in the very the very beginning of a local news broadcast this evening And so knowing that that is happening is it's heartening and we also have a people like Greta Greta Thunberg who are leading a year youth movement. It's been a year career. She's leaving an adult movement as well. I this is. We haven't done a twists official unofficial person of the year in a while. But this is definitely it. My favorite thing is that she's her. She has got the savvy that I have never seen seen any activists in a row before which is she originally is going to stop doing selfies with political leaders. Because because it's giving them the gratification of having done something when they've done nothing she's literally holding feet defy on issue that that I have I can find to find another example of somebody who to the to. That point was like no meeting. There was one where they sit all these glowing words and talking about the new technologies that was one of these. UN summits when these things with leaders from many countries. Bruce Together to talk about it and her speech was everywhere. I go people talk about new technologies. That are coming on the horizon and they make them feel selves feel good in the moment but they do nothing in the moment just like every time she speaks. I'm like I wish I was. That articulate well what people are going to see. Is that the news that came out this year of lot of bad news that things are getting worse. Things are happening faster. There's a bug Pakalitha. oops animals are threatened and dying There's a lot happening you know. Potentially our our oceans are going to be impacted acted in a way that will decrease oxygen availability of an eventually. Maybe sooner than later all these things can be potentially avoided or reduced in their extremity. And we're going to see more of this news. This news is going to be normal. We're GONNA take it away a for Debbie downers climate. Change Our and we're going to take it. To number number biotechnology biotechnology gets number one or as we also like to call it. Blair's science ethics conundrums corner her so this year in bioethics bioethics ethics this year in biotech. Yeah we had. We had a number of really interesting stories. I off the docket. Researchers created Using crisper macaque monkey embryo clones. So they were. They used fiber blast cells skin cells taken from the embryos using somatic nuclear transfer. That's the same procedure that was used to create Dolly the original clone sheep and they created crisper edited macaque monkeys little monkey clones and they were cute little monkeys to they're totally fine. And then then. The Chinese researchers edited human genes for brain development in to monkeys using gene editing technology and Maybe the monkeys on keys got a little bit smarter. As a result of those genes that got edited into their brains wasn't development they weren't playing with embryos they weren't making cameras Tyrez. They just put some genes in in the neurons in the brain injected in their pushing the envelope a little bit their Spanish American American researchers went to China because they wanted to avoid some research regulations restricting the creation of human primate kyw. Hi Mary says and cameras are organisms that contain the cells multiple two or more organisms. We don't like the idea of putting in humans together with In cameras with a lot of other organisms specifically primates because of the potential for intelligence and other aspects is that could come through. Nothing was ever scientifically published that anybody's seen but there's just reports of this having happened and success I believe producing human monkey embryos that were allowed to develop for a week or two so these were just balls of cells weren't allowed allowed to live very long and only allowed to develop a short time at slip it hasn't been published so we don't know void regulations to do an experiment experiment and then not publish and then not publish it so yeah so there's some there's some big questions about that way. Researchers in Tel Aviv using three D. Printing Technology Three D. printed. The first vascular is human heart which super exciting. Because that means you've got blood vessels going into the muscle. That will oxygen nate the muscle. You can have the whole organ been working well. And the fact of Three D. printing the idea of cells cells being used to print and organise dream of regenerative medicine. Problem it was. It was only as big as a rabbit's heart. So wasn't you know you could do a heart transplant rabbit but not on a human but this this is a good first step three D. printing with vascular ization. That's a big deal and I. I know we're going to see more of this kind of stuff moving forward in the years to come to love this. I love the three D. Printing of organs thing I'm all about it so about it Gene therapy for heart. Attacks Acts on the other side of things. We don't actually need to hold transplant. Researchers used RN. A to stimulate cells to repair after heart attacks. Axe after myocardial infarction and research has been really pushing stem cell injections being able to take stem cells. Put them into the heart and get the stem cells to repair damage from heart attacks. And it just hasn't worked. We've also been trying to get hearts to grow new to stem cells inject with certain factors and maybe new stem cells will grow in the heart. will fix itself hasn't happened but this aren a treatment seemed to it do the trick and in the animals that they They did the experiments on. They regained a lot of function and it was very successful Moving beyond beyond that. Oh our good friend gene drive and has has taken a big big jump this year researchers They were working on making gene drive in mammals this year which. I don't know if we really want that. What I'm talking about gene drive? Mosquitoes has been scary. Enough and researchers in Italy began an experiment to explore gene drive in in a realistic seeming lab environment because the last six last experiment using gene drive in mosquitoes. They hey we're completely successful at sterilizing. Their mosquitoes in the whole population in the lab died out it was extremely successful killed off the population and mosquitoes. The worry is if you release these organisms into the wild that it could have a broader utter reaching negative impact on an ecosystem and speaking of such unintended consequences. I had a story that I called oops mosquitoes researchers. This isn't with gene drive but they had used gene modification technology to genetically modify mosquitoes to reduce reduce their populations. These are mosquitos that were modified in the lab and then released in Brazil and they determined that a some of the genes not the ones that that were modified now but jeans from this lab population did spread into the wild mosquito population. And the question. It is what will happen with these wild. He's lab jeans afoot in in the wild. Let's let's not real quick that we learned in the last few years. Mosquitoes are pollinators. Yes I just WANNA remind everybody everybody into this. -squitoes are useless job. And there's probably a huge each botanical ecosystem. That's absolutely dependent on them. So maybe we need to continue to work. Gone the malaria cures vaccines or some sort of thing. That gets the parasite out the other end of the mosquito quicker and stop planning to kill all mosquitoes halley very important function in many parts of this. Maybe we'll just kill some of the mosquitoes -squitoes you. We cannot be making decisions for the entire planet based on localized ecosystems are complicated animals and plants have impacts. We don't realize cascading impacts we don't realize and historically directly. This has not gone well for us so this is just a good time for us to look back and go when we added things usually not good. When we've subtracted subtracted things also usually not good minder though when we make these sweeping decisions it doesn't always work out? Well that being said tested well and this thing only impacts for example infected mosquitoes. That could be a cool thing. There's lots of options here. I'm not saying to completely throw the baby out with the bathwater. But why would you ever do that for rory. Doesn't nobody nobody. Point is nobody. Melanie does that so some final used to be the baby back. Some final biotech stories. Some final biotech stories. He's here that are super cool. There was the the Yale researchers with brain expert fusion or they kept some pig brains alive soon after they were decapitated for several hours. Who is Mars attacks movie where they have the heads with the? Yeah what does this mean for potentially resuscitating people for bringing people back for yeah for analogy to keep heads in jars. Yes I'll trauma I'm all about it and And the final one that I think is is just very very cool. Was the most recent camera that was created. Researchers created. The monkey pig wasn't a lot of monkey and the pig. But they injected sprinkle of monkey just a sprinkling of macaque into pigs. And it was just. The Vega had urged to climb trees but no ability to do so ability. They're usually there was something thing on the order of one in ten thousand cells that were monkey in several pig organs when they looked at organs in In the surviving surviving individuals and not many individuals survived in the first place. They ended up having something like two individuals that were Kinda Merrick and survived survived so the IVF procedure they are blaming for not working. And it's like really we've been doing an idea for a really long time now and you. I think your idea of procedures working not so sure about that. I think you should check some other factors but the reality is perhaps we will have have pig organs that have monkey nece or more humanness. At some point in the future for transplantation and biotechnology is taking us in that direction. It's very very interesting and exciting and I'm actually I'm I'm glad we are finally able to do these America experiments that for years. We're really not being done. And we're finally at a point where researchers were regulations have been relaxed enough to allow this kind of experimentation. And it's it's going to tell us a lot about what different species need. I guess they're genetics. And how they how they fit together or don't why as cells work together or don't work together and and how we can potentially we will tell us more about life in general which I think is fascinating. Yeah I think before you take this to the to the eleventh degree and kind of take the crazy space where people don't WanNa think about it ethically when you look at it it ultimately is just a reminder again humans or animals animals were just mammals. So if we're trying to figure out how to best take care of ourselves and keep people alive who need organs. The he how or how to experiment on animals in a way to figure out how to keep humans alive who are very sick. Find cures for diseases kind of stuff. If we're just mammals it's not as icky as it sounds and I think that's that's part of the the Hubris that we all kind of have to shake off in this conversation Asian. We're just animals guys. Were not that different and it. It does at a certain point. It goes to that level of biology as information processing. How much of the output that is flesh and bone own you know is is similar across the different species? How much different? What what I I I find it fascinating? The biological information theory of of life what goes into making things. It's I think I think a perspective also depends on whether you are a doctor trying to save life or patient trying to prolong your life. Now if it's a human liver came out of a pig but I give it to somebody who's not in those the situation and somebody's like Moo I can put a cockroach liver into you know. Don't do it yeah. I'm going we do it anyway. Like that's the it sounds monstrous now. But when when there's an actual patient or you are the patient will be Benefa- I think a cockroach liver to limit extra ten years. I don't care if you don't lot of cockroach livers correct. Yeah I'm like something that might be. It sound grocer them needs to be. But yeah it's just it's does your perspective on these things cockroaches dot this like watching a monster movies eighteen. So that is our top eleven. Everybody let us know what you think about. Our List do disagree. Do you agree. Would you have put things in different orders. Do you think that we picked some pretty good stories to highlight for the end of the year and I as we finish up the SHOHEI Blair. There's a few stories that didn't make it on the list even beyond the top eleven. Yeah I you just have a couple of honorable mentions from the animal corner. One is on Zebra stripes. They showed up three times this year. The conversation about wise zebras have stripes is still very much the jury is out on it. The our general understanding is that Zebra stripes repel flies. But why so. There was one story where they dressed up horses. It's zebras and this. The horses is wearing zebra-striped coats. Didn't fact get bit less by biting flies but then there was this other story that was kind of anecdotal but was very interesting about how the black hair versus the white hair creates these kind of convection currents that make it hard for the flies to land and and then there was a whole nother one looking at cows that were physically painted leg. Zebras and they found that they were also been less By biting insects so generally it seeming like we can throw that whole theory out the window not out the window but kind of like behind this on as to why zebras striped the understanding inning. Before was that it's cryptic. coloration breaks up their body shape so when they're in a a dazzle I think is what is called of Zebras Than they all kind of blend together into into one massive stripes that may be true and that might be one of the reasons that it's that shape but ultimately it looks like the evolutionary reason for Zebra Eighty per stripes is most likely to repel flies. which I just loved the methodology in use here over the year Zebra stripes the other honorable? Mention yeah go ahead of their We're talking about the evolutionary reason for it could be that the evolutionary Lucien reason for zebras having stripes his long outlived its usefulness. It could be that that Poor vision from predators could have. You've been doing that group. Camouflage thing to a An early Zebra and that was such a strong impact. That it's carrying over we have We have havoc dentist see sometimes through tribute traits and characteristics to being absolately prevalent in the now. When as you said evolutionary they could have been really useful and important but we're such a strong trade? They've carried over even though their usefulness as a trade through the is is no longer actually So watch assuming that it's in the exact now that it's important. Here's my devil's advocate for you. Oh copies o copies Zebra stripes on their butts and on their legs and that is the only place why because of the places with the thinnest skin and where they are going to be bit by biting insects most so that would indicate that perhaps though zebra stripes on an Okapi Okapi are there for a similar reason so there. There's there's clues that we have that aren't just based on kind of this one but you can look through evolutionary history mystery and see what other animals have this and where and why so. It's looking good Islamic. So anyway we. We looked at Zebra Stripes lousier but the other honorable mention that I have tonight is of course the transient Amos turns on an eighteen. As though this was a study looking at Tina fours fours looking at what perhaps is the evolution of the anus and this animal has an illness that only exists. When when it needs to poop it disappears when it does not have anything to evacuate and then it reappears? What it is time to get rid of extra stuff so this was just an hour wings story not always in the same place? Jen same general area but not exactly the same so this is this is such an amazing look at to what might be the first secondary opening evolutionary and and how how the anus evolved from whence the anus came from where the sun don't shine that's alive now this isn't that is but they are. The most advanced in this is this is one of the very first to hold animals so there there were animals that had the same hole for INS and outs us for a very long time and they were one of the very first that had both a mouth and an anus that were independent except it wasn't always there wasn't always isn't it isn't always there is not always there so fascinating so fascinating. I had a few honorable. Mentions or I guess some things that were left off on purpose as well Hag Fish Slime is something that I thought was just cool and we learned about how hag fish. Slime gets to be so slimy this year. And it's all tied up in these tiny balls like a pure and expand all over the place and the slime dukes magic. It's not magic but now we know how the fish lime works which means that. Of course we can reverse engineer it and make manmade hag fish slime Because because because hag fish slime it's awesome And then the story. That really didn't make the list. Because has it became kind of mundane this year. EXO Planets Kepler was finding things and then they it's been kind of getting ending the Kepler missions mission and tests the transiting exoplanet survey has been taking up the mantle of looking for EXO planets little closer to home than Kepler which is cool. So we're finding things a little closer but now now it's like planets are kind of a diamond of it doesn't so even though there were discoveries this year. Yeah didn't make the list because of that but one of the cool things that we did find with exoplanets is we started looking at atmospheres. There's around exoplanets. So now we started and we found a couple of baby EXO planets forming in the dust. Ring around a star. You're so we think that we're and we're direct imaging some EXO planets now so this is really starting to get at a new you level of exoplanet science. And I think that's it didn't really hit this year but I think in the years to come we're going to be seeing a new stage age of exoplanet science. That will be really exciting to report on and talk about. But it's not there yet but it's tantalizing because it's onerous. They're my favorites Surya. That didn't make the list. Was the plants. Listen to bees in reacting in real time. I've found that story incredibly interesting. Oh you know I have to say I had a favorite story that I just I remembered and I actually think this was my favorite story of the whole year. Which is why we hiccup? Yeah yeah idea that it's because as babies these are Automatic part of our nervous system telling us to breathe. All the time isn't quite up and running yet. And our hiccup is telling us. Don't forget to breathe. I I had had the hiccups real bad a couple of days ago and I was thinking about it the whole time. Oh this is this digital from what I was a baby and I forgot to breathe. How neat they fat had been me? I probably would have started giggling. And that would have made my hiccup stop. Because I'd be giggling about the vestigial. Ask Anyway every happy as the hiccups. I'm like Oh. Don't forget to breathe needle puppy. Don't forget to breathe breathe little bubby. Breathe breathe Oh everyone. I think we've come to the end of our top eleven plus a few more show always expanding the universe like the universe. It's a good. It's it's a great. It's so hard to pick one or two or three things and yeah. I'm sure that that we could have one story to highlight some of these categories. But it's fun to talk it all through and I like categories as opposed to just specific stories raise because really science. Is You know when any one story very often is just anecdotal right. It's one set of data data. You need to have multiple levels of evidence and that is why I like seeing them as categories and fitting things things altogether. 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Kika Rodrigues

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45:24 min | 8 months ago

Kika Rodrigues

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Works Outs and Watchmen - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - 11/12/19

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Works Outs and Watchmen - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - 11/12/19

"Welcome to still entitled the Adam Savage Project I will and I'm norm. We're on the wrong side. The water is inverted sides. The reason we are not in the cave today and I know that regular tested listeners. Love to be teased. The reason we're not is because the project I'm working on over there is so secret we can't even tell you about it until like can even be in the same building announcing the announcement of the project summer. This is is 'cause people love this. This is going to be great. I can't wait to read the comments on this one. Because being franchise movie coming out next summer Oh you said too much already. Yeah they're so. Oh good out there. You guys are so good at guessing Madagascar five coming out exactly actly over the heads of three. Hey so I wanted to talk about something that happened this week okay. There's a lot of stuff that happened this week. Most importantly VR game in came out called double tap no pistol whipped male. But now I'm leaving that in you have. I have to leave that type of different game. Now that's how you play having a double tap because there's a penalty for accuracy. Oh is their the score can be your John Wick simulator. Yeah you gotta play true to your feelings. It's my chest or is it one of the chest to to the head. I can't remember. Hi actually recently noticed how okay. Let's talk about this for the game is yes PIP is VR game. That is really in a very similar. A A vein to super hot. And it'd be like this marriage between the two and it's also like you're John Wick running down a hallway killing bad guys. It's a rhythm game the thing you have to do on the beat is shoot people yup in the body or the head and it is not only. Is it thrilling doing. But I want to tell you. My thighs are on fire. This week I got is. There's so much squatting and jumping and moving and swaying. I got out of the car and and was like Oh God I love. This is what it feels like to be twenty years older horrible. Some really great forty four. What it feels like to be eight years shit who play beat sabre have giant forearms especially if you wear the weights? Yeah and people were you. We're GONNA play pistol-whipping of giant giant cat. I told I told you this morning. Pistol whip is like date is like that day and beat sabre is armed days. Yes so so so This was made by cloud head games. They made a ton of stuff. They made the portal. The poor aperture science hand lab. They've made the Gallery Games so early. VR developers have been working for about six years Vr and the first of your games were missed basically VR game adventure puzzle Games which did okay and they actually were the people who brought forth like snap turning in Vr. Use The thumb stick and snap and turn not smooth her and that's comparable th. They figured that out they they made it worse. Yes well they figured that lurks. Don't work. I mean ninety percent of people really don't work for fibers is a linear expression of. I can't remember that stands for but it basically means you jump and it doesn't blink out the movement it just shows it in like six frames but the point is they're doing linear locomotion here in a way that makes no one. I put in this game sick. Most of the time when you move linearly a certain a larger percentage of people than than just and still will feel motion sick after a short period of time. mm-hmm and I am one of those as their reason that it works because I found myself thinking it's because you're kind of always looking at the horizon which is the advice they give you when you get that so there's no acceleration acceleration. There's no linear always moving same direction. So you're it's the same as being in a train that's moving same speed or car or whatever. There's no Oh Horizon Bob. There's no they're really careful like the gun. Does a little bit of a just a the model of bulges out a little bit on the beat but other than that. There's nothing and also I think those I think those alternating tiles on the ground also helped because they give you more speed movement. It isn't a ludicrously pleasurable game to play. I can't stop playing. Yeah have you tried turning off the auto aim and stuff I have not yet. I've literally only just gotten through. Most of the levels on normal going easy to normal was surprisingly I can get through the very first one I think on hard but maybe just get almost to the end and then die I and and the thing. That's interesting I died with four seconds left on one of the level frustrating the below the levels the thing that's needed the levels the basic. The tile inside is the same with the difficulty levels but they had different obstacles. They put the enemies. It's not just more enemies out of the same places. They're spotting them in different places. You can't count on it and they're giving you like on a normal you're presented with maybe two or three guys maybe four most on hard it will spawn the grid of four to four by four grids or two two by two grids. And you have to John Wick. Shit I think the reason you think it's fun is it to you. It's like this fulfills a a fantasy the same way beat sabre fulfills fantasy run sabre created using the rhythm music game as a template. Let you give your purpose but let you really it. Just play out the Djeddai fantasy and they did it in a really interesting way. Which is they gave you points for accuracy? But they didn't necessarily make you suffer a a out of proportion for lack of accuracy correct. Yeah like you get the breaks you can make it through all the the whole level of beat sabre and it might not be pretty. But it'll be done and the winning awesome and the opening up of the aiming so that closest good enough is a fascinating way to make you more interested in getting better at aiming without having it be this too high of a threshold at the fornet. I noticed my aiming. Accuracy is about seventy five percents feels feels pretty good. Yeah well it's so the scoring is interesting because a beat sabre is a little esoteric right. Beats Abor it's about the arm the motion of your arm. And the and the the the length of your swing and the speed and the timing is a bunch of stuff just to hold by beat sabre expert last week that a lot of people just by moving their wrists said like real professional players aren't moving. I'm very much at all. Despite the Games attempt to the ones that are fun to watch our con. you know Metoo I move a lot so would this you have One hundred points for accuracy hundred points per timing and the closed yard of the beat. The more you get that Little Red Circle above the guy when you shoot him and then okay accuracy. AC- is about Senator Bass or head. I think but if you hit a limb or handers like that doesn't count. Well I'm been having so much of this game or a play. We can play together networks. Can we can leaderboards. We could see how we wake up in the morning and seeing who has the better score amongst your friends. Oh okay so we can. We can compare scored okay then you have to teach me how to like virtual space. So I've done here. We go hang out in that beautiful postmodern loft. I have I wish I just WANNA I spend more time in that space. Yeah the the thing that they don't have is I think cross by former leaderboards. So I've so far. RUN DOWN The wireless battery. I think three or four times buying it which is like an hour per session probably. It's a very good game it's it is I am I am. I'm thinking about right now. I just want to go play. It may end up being the thing that causes me three to attach a battery pack to the back of my head set or your boss. Yeah I've noticed people vast you can buy that will slip a USB back behind your keble so that's basically what the vile is packed. I just put my pocket along and of course the the out everywhere right. It's out on rift quest. Yeah it'll come to ps four and then also the XAVER. Three six deepak is supposed to hit some time between now and December so there is a brand a new music. Pack for beat Saber rattling sound. Luckily Music monstercast. I played a couple of those are really really fun. This is the interesting thing is the. EDM Yours guys music. I like EDM. But it's not something I listened to and listened to casualty neither. Sometimes I do is it is Jamie hyneman workout workout music really. Yep Jimmy works out Jamie Jamie hyneman works out every day. And that's why he's GonNa outlive all of it. Oh Jamie Jamie I don't know what his workout is these days for a long time. When we were on tour it was kettlebells? You can see that when for a long time on mythbusters he just loved this guy. He's so bizarre. He's like while I thought about how to exercise as many of my muscle groups possible in the most efficient amount of time time and So what I ended up doing was setting my treadmill to its steepest setting and then I carry seventy pounds up hell for forty five minutes horrible. That sounds awful. Let me tell you being somebody who has like built costumes for for Jamie and painted him. Gold he is a worthy is completely he is the literal definition of barrel. Chested turns the mustache. Absolutely yeah you gotTa have a moustache like that. You have to have a physique. Yeah I remember actually I see the same physical therapists that he sees. He's because he introduced them to me and they're terrific and one of the things that he was really impressed by was they taught him brand new ways of working out older muscle groups. Oh ooh which involved less repetition and more like because he had he had a he had a tricky knee for a little while. And it's really hard to workout. Yeah it's really difficult and if I remember correctly and forgive me medical medical listeners if I if I get your radio they what they had them do is go into a squat where the knee is holding the tension. But he's not doing repetition. He's just holding it there until he can't and he collapses into a Matt That's below Oh him and then take a little brighter and do it again and you you're basically it's this very low impact strength training and he was blown away by how quickly so the reason I mentioning Jamie being surprised by someone teaching them a new thing. He's always researching efficiency in ways to work out all the muscles he really like. He wants to keep his body running for as long as possible. which is hilarious? Because when he gets sick he gets really pissed. Oh Yeah can't can't handle the weakness of the flesh Himba him maximizing the trendall angle carrying weight versus you doing John John Wick simulator and VR. Is the quintessential difference between really. But Jamie is somebody who when he talks to like people who study study a cognitive load and mental conditioning. And stuff like that. I remember him twenty years ago. Saying I come up with all my best ideas during my workout so I tried to choose tedious monotonous workout. So the Lao me to think about Random Shit and studies totally bear this out. That exercise is a fantastic way. Let your brain kind of free fly. I mean it's the same as doing tedious work in the shop. Where you don't have to think about it you just have to do it over? Mowing is great pushing that more. Yeah flows down to think eh that flow state Speaking of Saber. I'll do the teas now. There is a beat sabre related one day. Build coming in the near us. uh-huh yeah ooh yes we did and we did a yeah. I need to me because I can't figure I. So Yeah Okay Yeah Stay tuned BC to Jesus Christ teasing and to be continued. Can we talk about some shows that are currently airing on a weekly basis. That I'm loving. Like the watchmen dude. Okay so I'm only three episodes and I haven't seen the fourth that aired last night. Yeah I will watch tomorrow and they would have never tone which is fine but I. I'm so excited episode three. So let's say this up a little bit of four. Regina King King of course is the main star it is a sequel. To the book watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons not necessarily the movie although there are visual references to they went into the day talking about the squid so they're erecting to the to the book to not the fell and it's set in two thousand nineteen alternate reality where the world is different. You know what happened if if Nixon was president for four terms and then was followed by an hour named Radford right after Ford and the building of the show that they do is not just expedition. That's laid out to you discovered as you watched the show. And they and they they they actually go deep into one of the center set pieces of the first three episodes that I've seen Are the Tulsa race riots the race or the massacres Manitoba Massacre. Yeah Race Right. It's a massacre. It was a it was a riot where the white people were upset that there was a prosperous black community and and one of the most prosperous communities in the United States it was called Black Wall Street and it was an entire effective part of a city in which the local white people were so incensed about it they not only showed up and murdered hundreds and hundreds of people they were flying planes over dropping bombs firebombs on the they raised an entire town are a key. It's a horrifying part of American history. Because it happened in the twenties they never do. It's funny going on the south. It's something they don't teach you shocked to hear about that and they Tulsa has reparations in the show one of the things that happens is that Tulsa confronted itself and applied reparations. And it's not a simple matter. It's a complex. Social thing that goes on in that also weaves into the I I found really fascinating. One of the really passing Meta things about this show is an HBO show and much like the way HBO's Producers Making Westworld and and watch men. I and even shoe detective week by week release. They are well aware of kind of the online following. Even the US discussing this right and how a show in the community that follows our show builds a life of its own that the raiders can't really anticipate so they prepare a lot of material which is perfect for schilling watchman. Because that's exactly how that store was later I wanted. It was most people known as a graphic novel but it really was twelve issues in a maxi series. That was released no one one month at a time and with F. issue there would be excerpts from the original night owls memoir would be these newspaper clippings and that's an absolute absolute addition is the kind of interstitial and also the black freighter and kind of extra bonus material that helps tell the world. They're doing that now. This show not only only in this like pita pedia thing pedia and also the podcast off. Doing I've listened to that. I say this is so there's been through four episodes. The fourth is just recently aired. I've seen the first three the third episode. The first two are great. I enjoyed them immensely. I burned through them. The third one is amazing. And it's amazing. So it walks through one of the original watchmen. It's the first episode of the season where Angela a bar. Regina kings kicker is. You're not seeing the world through her eyes and brings in a new character to the show which ends up being revealed to be one of the regional watchmen. It's it's a Laurie Laurie. Laurie well it she. She changes her name. But it's still going to comedian. Silk Spectre once daughter. Yes and Jean Smart plays her and she is appropriately age and and she's an FBI agent. Jean Smart has so much fun with this character. And you can imagine what you know about what it's like to be a woman in Hollywood. A woman of a certain age age don't often get roles that are media like this and you watch the actress just make so much delicious. Hey out of the role that the cold the open I think it was a moment there in the bank. where she's going into the bank and like they're they're they're doing a show? I mean it's last week's episode and I don't know if he wanted to spoil it has happened to the first few minutes. She's it's basically a sting to catch. Vigilante yeah and it turns and there's so much surly and she gives so few Fox about anything that the vigilante cares about like the thing. That's interesting about this is. It's all about the impact of let me tell you this. costumed vigilantes mass. I think have says he's interested in he thought. The original watchmen graphic novel about a study of. Why would order your people? Okay only one. Who's superpowers is Dr Manhattan? I would ordinary people put on mass. And there's a monologue in episode. Four guys will see where the thesis this is right out there right. Laurie says her theory. And why people wearing masks so as a former mask wearer homer mass mayor and that first opening scene where you see her in that bank is clearly for me a quoting showing the Dark Knight Opening Bank Heists Yup right we're in except she's the joker MHM Right and daughters median. There's this other. That's really nifty other as beautiful. There's this other aspect of that episode. Which is Dr Manhattan's living on Mars? No one has seen him fair bit of time but because of his commitments. There's apparently phone booths you can go to and you can call Mars and talk to him. Yeah because you don't have to call. He sees tire universally early for Santa letters to stand up but there is Jean smart in one of those phone booths breath and she is telling him she's telling a joke and she screws it up and she starts telling him another joke and then that ends up becoming again light spoilers. So that ends up becoming the anchor curve phone call to Dr Manhattan becomes the Anchor of the episode the framework for the whole episode and it is a framework that feels so allen. More more with the the the the black fater bill black freighter which is such a weird dark thing in that issue right but but it isn't actually like like she doesn't she doesn't mess up the joke? It's all it's all and he's also that's a classic joke construct right bulwer you fake you call so good. And she's speaking with with Johnson Omnipotence to presumably like he he sees the entire joke at the same time. He knows that there's no joke. She knows that there's no point to tell him the joke and she does it anyway purely for her own edification and because she wants wants to fuck with John and there's this point in the joke I guess at about the seventy percent markup the joke where she says and now the last hero steps up in God. Crack's knuckle sir. Again she is. My wife was walking by while I was watching. The she. Hasn't jumped into watchmen with yet. But she looked at you and Jean smart and I was like yeah and she was like. How's she doing? And I'm like a man. She's really bringing every all the crews. Nothing left on the table. Now and it's so delightful to watch Jeevan consents. That she's having a great time. Despite the lack of folks the character gives her like verbal sparring. Aren with Regina King in the episode also stunning and Regina King is amazing in there and they always that way seen since neither back down not at all. Yeah Yeah not even a little bit. Well we haven't talked about Jeremy Irons yet. So here's interesting luxury iron so okay. There's a lot there too. Hard of this was no. No the PODCAST. Often Craig may release the podcast. After the third episode once every three episodes of one of the things they revealed is they filmed all old. Jeremy Irons episodes. I So they didn't film things they had him is availability. There surely captured in Ireland for a set time. They just shot all of that before the scripts or even written for the other episode. How which is? Also very watchmen thing to do. Because they're doing non linearity black black freighter stories but he's out of fun before we continue on with this week's episode. I want to let you know that still entitled this week is made possible with support from afternoon. 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You need to stay a step ahead afternoon. Cyber Tina's available on apple podcasts. And podcast one listen in to lead the future of cyber security back the show. Okay so speaking of Dr Dr Manhattan. Yeah I WANNA talk about the morning show. Would Reese Witherspoon Jennifer Aniston. Yeah because and Super L.. And Steve Carell but it also billy credit who plays Dr Manhattan and the Watchmen Film. Oh I didn't know he was in that. Watch the not only is in it but in a roster of terrific actors. Mark Suplus Steve Corral Jennifer. Aniston Reese Witherspoon Billy. Kurt up is like he's almost in a different show and it's so so much fun to watch him go. He is ability caught up has played some great villains over the years in this specific role. He is leaning out over his villainy with Glee that is sheer delight to watch. Yeah like the dude. He's amazing reviews for the show or bad they were kind of all over bibles really bad. I will say I think Daza say up front. I think Jennifer Aniston is one of the great physical Comedians of Television Green. She has phenomenal nominal timing and she's playing She's playing a terrific part and reese witherspoon. Also I'm a big fan and her her part is great and meaty. I find the writing quite uneven on the show. So some scenes will be really electric rick and Sparky and fun and weird and then the next scene will be like some bit of boiler plate. Where someone's like did you plans? Yeah I got the plans boss. We'll get them soon. Not at that dialogue exchange numbers in the show. But it feels that funky sometime so the framework is it's a show about a morning show where the Co host of long along. The Matt Lauer character is by Steve. Carell KRILL has a scandal of some kind of show. He sexually harasses a sexual impropriety at the workplace. He sleeps with many people that he works. So that worked for him so like if we think about the list of shows that are the framework of the show within the show we the Larry Sanders and Gary Shandling. We have newsroom. We have studio sixty like thirty rock. Where does this land on the on? Like well from what you've seen is because it's a drama right. Yeah it feels best drama. It feels more akin to like the good wife. Like Dow kind of ensemble the drama of good actors and occasionally that dialogue can be stupid Turgid Martin plus by the way an actor do plus brothers Sir to actors the founders of Mumble core. They've been in many many different things including me a whole bunch of television. You've seen marketplace's terrific in this playing this tired director. The supporting cast is terrific. I like it more than I don't like it. Okay I meant that a bunch of scenes feel weirdly out of place and I can can only imagine what it's like to bring into giants like Aniston and Reese Witherspoon and try and direct them in some. It was the biggest comedy star in the world right. And everyone's great actually in the first episode when you I finally cut to St Pearls Minor spoiler there. He's in his house and doing crisis management right because jobs just ended and he yells for forever. Men have used their power to get women and now now I'm getting punished. Wow it's still a delight to the fact that he's so unabashedly shitty he's totally admitting it up front like there's no. Oh I don't want to be that kind of person. He's exactly who he wants to be. I so I'm like I'm always interested when they cast comedians for drama roles. Because because it's usually there's usually it's usually a good purpose and it usually works really well in that vein in the second episode. There's a scene in which so corollas they. They're very slow to bring him to wheel him into the plot. He's just kind of dipping in him a couple of times for episode late in the second episode he meets with a Hollywood director whose career was also derailed by sexual impropriety. Play by Martin. Short Chris and Martin Short not only looks great. But right you to your point. These two world-class comedians playing drama. The the amount of weight in timing and stakes. They're adding to their dialogue is like a masterclass. And there's a turn in the scene and the turn. I'm getting chills. Just thinking about it the turn in the scene that both of them. It's like because they're comedians. They have explored with an art form. That has immediate stakes. People laugh or they don't laugh Depending on how good you served the joke and those steaks I think make. Comedians audience truly great actress because they understand within the narrative arc of a set of lines where the turn is where the punch is where your emotional arcs going to be and watching. The two of them talk is schilling difference like the difference in cadence between a huge audience laughing huge audience grown right same word same delivery. Same timing right I mean just like the tone of the voice can turn and like just to be clear reese witherspoon has done some incredible dramatic roles. Pretty little lies buys the thing on. HBO UH-HUH YEP is is spectacular. I haven't watched it but it's it's really really good. My wife Loves Jennifer. was that good girl. What was it the movie? Yeah because it was a long time ago but it was intense and like I thought that was a phenomenal film. There's one thing that I find about Aniston that Is that it. It seems difficult for her to play an unabashedly shitty person and I feel sometimes like that's what this role requires the Harvey losses. Oh yes that is actually your. That's my favorite Jennifer Aniston. She's she's she's incredible in that but she's playing a comedy pretty shitty person. Well she's playing a ludicrously over the top shitty person flipping the campaign. Yeah there's the degree of how much fun she the house in horrible bosses is Super Great. I love that that might be my favorite movie roles Charlie days boss. Yeah which it's so horrifying S. d. from that fell from her. I like she well. She's she's playing Steve Carell in morning show in horrible bosses. Sorry but you get like I said this show is uneven. I totally granted that I find myself I find the episodes go very quickly. I which is an hour barker. Yeah it's an our which is to me a marker that it's really good. It's enjoyable right if it's like. I'm not feeling like anyone's wasting my time. No there's only one more thing I want to say about watchmen move on. Is that when you guys watched. The fourth episode does introduce a new character unseen before. I'm Afr- Spoil her details but the actress who plays her may look familiar but she hasn't a lot of stuff but you appreciate. She plays the woman in the Matt. Damon Downsizing Movie O.. Rian the weenies woman the Vietnamese woman. Excuse me yes. She's so that that movie is called downsizing downsizing pain film yes and we talked about on the podcast. Right formats. Formats is incredible incredible and that she is the best thing that movie and Matt Damon's Great in it and it took me a little. Bit of watching the watchmen Taylor and she is a completely different character and here but justice saw. There's a film festival I wanted to. Maybe I've talked about this on the with the Kurt Our caller let's fuck with bill. PULLMAN mind film festival suggested by John Hodge Islands really good. This is movies movies that the Studio Marketing Department had no idea how to release. Oh and downsizing is one in which the movie that it was was not the movie. They were internal sunshine of the spotless. Mind I think so. Free Fire is another into runner. But he's got three days. You see the thing that that was where the studio notes from an early screening blade runner released got second. Try Cutting into the studio would say okay. Yeah that's the rough compromise with the not. The vandals doesn't congenial scratch track. Yeah I've seen it has. Yeah and they're like that was released. The Castro in ninety three I saw in the theater so so so it's like this like the notes are this is this narration is terrible. The the voice over is terrible. Where's evangelist evangelist? Was the only thing that made the first hour tolerable able to. There's not enough fighting then there's too much fighting and it's I'll send you the tour. I'll put it in the nuns. It was good. I'm super psyched. For for the fourth. Episode of watchmen. And like I said I'm going to watch it and just a couple of hours when I get home. And then let's not podcasts. Highly recommended daily Lindelof as in from from her novel. Who wrote for Chernobyl? Yeah and Scripts podcast very good watchmen is doing a wonderful job. Look I was complaining last year about TV. TV shows like westworld where I'd finish a whole season and I felt like I watched one hundred twelve hours of ten or twelve hours a television. I felt like I watched four plot Ryan just getting plot but watching. It does not feel like that. The boys did not feel like that. I felt like I got big fat episodes. Every episode of the boy's head on feeling the same thing with watchman's their their forty five minute episodes or something on our nine of them they feel they feel each one feels like a movie almost like the not in. There's like opening enclosure feature of Wotton and super cinematic. It's it's gorgeous. It's crafted amazing. Don Johnson to for seventy something years old seventy seventy four. I hope this is Johnson's travolta moment where he suddenly cast is like the all sorts of the old guy who's lost Robert Forester. Sadly someone's got to take up that man. Yeah exactly you know. By the way I just learned that I'm older than Wolford. Grimly was when He. Oh you passed in the past year and a half ago like he was he was only six years older than you are. Now how right off a wow yeah. We'll Brindley came out of the womb with a mustache dash fifty five year old guys thing. He didn't have the mustache in the thing duty. Yeah why don't WanNa be out here reality or not. We know how come I can't come back. We're going to talk about so many other things. What else are we going to talk about? Where ah we might be at a time? Okay but wants both save those topics. We did have a great suggestion online. Though and we love Dacian yes because It is getting closer to the holidays. Cisco were full boy. I'm saying for for maybe vacation and we tourism dollars worry refurbishment. We we get questions asked of us of or the things that do and see when you have about two to three days a you know what I can do a two minute little quick run down a couple of things that are real orchestra. My highlights are in advance. Got A book. Your tickets go to Alcatraz as advertised. It is one of the best half days. You can spend visiting historical audio tour. Do Okay put by pay the money for the audio tour. Because it's narrated by former guards and inmates. They recorded them while they were still alive. Amazing and they tell the stories of oral history. What it was like to be there what it was like to be in the cafeteria what it was like? You know where the scary places where we're not scary. It's really good if you want to see things that the locals even don't often see. I recommend looking for nearby secret staircase. San Francisco is fool with its hills is full of secret staircases all over the city. If you just Google San Francisco scared staircases. You can find the Lion Street steps stairs are great uh-huh and each one is a little bit of an adventure like there's wonderful things you can see you usually have great views And then I wanNA give a shout out to my one of my favorite restaurants. He's here in. The mission is a local eatery. That's been there. I think for more than four decades punchy this Salvadorian papooses which is a salvador. In case a deal with meet and other stuff inside as well as cheese you eat it with a Coleslaw and hot sauce and here on tested we eat there probably once a week. In fact I've catered a New Year's Party we've been there a lot and it's wonderful down home. This is what the mission has always felt like to me punch John. Cheetahs used to have a punch cheetahs to upon Cheetahs. Three those to pare back but now they have a new pond. Cheetahs on Valencia street around the corner from their old place. And if if you're visiting San Francisco and you go into the one on sixteenth and it's packed walking around the corner of the other one. It's probably not as packed And they both have the same great food. So those are my quick San Francisco shots but I can build up some more. And let's do that as Kademi. Go to CAL Academy completely daresay. uh-huh absolutely don't stay in Union Square. Don't yeah now don't do you. I saw when last time. We were at Weta workshop. Weta folks when I went to San Francisco and I stayed in. This hotel was on in Polk Street. I walked the whole of Polk Street and it was just awful and I was like you literally walked. I think the worst street. It's it's like the Gina Gina. Gina used to do a walking tour when people would come to town where we'd start at Union Square started the pop. Hal St Bart's say Shannon and then walk up because he walked through union square on the way but walk through Chinatown North North Beach and then go to Alcatraz vary which was still on. Fisherman's warf right and it was like you start at like nine o'clock in the morning. You hit the ferry for one o'clock ferry grab lunch and in a beer somewhere along the way and then the afternoon Alcatraz and come back and go have dinner someplace and it was a Fendt Aztec way to spend the day so really really walkable city get you can get the the. Get Your Clipper Card. So you can ride Bart and the and the and the Muny In the cable cars and streetcars and the whole thing and and yeah. Bring your walking shoes. I think that when we do this episode. Let's do some of our memories of doing those things of the things that we're recommending because I think there's some good stories in there for the locals twin twin peaks. Everyone should go to the topic. I go to peak sexy probably once a month if it's cloudy. Don't go to the top twenty in embrace the fog. I don't mind I don't see anything. I still don't minded up there but you're right you're right you're going to see the city. It is one of the more remarkable news of any city ever except for the view of Cape Town from Table Mountain. I hi and the to field not dissimilar. Although table mountains of bid Moma jess dig. The first time I was in Hawaii I was I was there. It was like. Oh it's a cloudy. It's an overcast day. Let's go to the top of the volcano today and see what it's like up there so we drove three hours up to the side of the volcano and got to the top and I was like. Oh this is why this is bad do this. It's forty degrees in this. Ah Shit we do on vacation. I ran out of gas in a Prius in front of the Dole Plantation. On Gas much you get so many miles L. A. Tank. I just forgot that you had to stop. Fill it around on bananas waiting. You're thinking gearhead. That sounds pretty stupid. Let me tell you my wife saying that to me directly there was in two thousand and three wire article. I'm sure about the people who get such good gas. Mileage and their priests that they forget to gas in it and thus right out of casts and the apprentice press indeed all right on the site this week. What we have that build they alluded to it will be will be revealed? Wants to visit the studio of a pop up book luke designer. Not Video Appeal this week as well as does that mean. He randomly designs books in new locations all the time he designs Papa designs pop up. Okay cool yeah. That's fine engineer. And a bunch of other stuff. The model of me is a model that Kanai put the other and we did some fine painting winging it and it's a lot of fun Those little lights aren't norm. Our work I it's a speaker. Oh that's what I want. I want to see it. Looks like Rubik's cube middle give is bigger than the others look. It's best not to think about a token. Let it go on. This episode of brand-new made a tech pod. We talk about Y. Yeah we all the whole history how my wife is important and like the CAN Utah Heady Lamar Contribution Ours Contributions to Bluetooth Truth. Yeah we talked about. We talked about the Shannon limit which is the theoretical maximum data capacity for a frequency range. Which is really fun? There's math breath you can find it at tech pod dot content dot town. Yeah think could find US always on tested DOT COM. Listen we'll see next week. Thanks guys hi Bob.

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TALKSHOW - Pentingnya Membantu Dakwah Islam

Radio Fajri 99.3FM

1:03:00 hr | 4 months ago

TALKSHOW - Pentingnya Membantu Dakwah Islam

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The hottest new ingredient in beauty is....Camel Milk?!?

Art Beauty

33:48 min | 5 months ago

The hottest new ingredient in beauty is....Camel Milk?!?

"This is the podcast. And i am your host amber melt today. My fabulous guest is mark. Green he is the founder of kind of take. You know what. I always say this on this show. We are unbranded unsponsored unafraid. To tell the truth about fake shan't but today we're going to tell the real truth about some pretty wild shit and you will understand what i mean in just a minute mark. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you amber pleasure to be here. So you are the founder of this company. Camelot's and i want to get to that in a minute but i get working. The beatings drag a lot of pitches. All the time from various people wanna come on the show and when i heard that you had started a company based around camel milk i was like we got to talk about that but before we do. I understand right now. You're in israel i am. I'm currently in israel. This is where we produce our products. Okay i'm here quite often Taking care of things i mean. Is it easier. I have never been to israel. Is it like easier. There are a lot of camel farms there that well israel isn't the in the middle east or in the center of the middle histor- on the edge of it. We whichever way you look at it So in general. Yes i mean. Historically there are many camels here and cama farms but in israel itself and nowadays it's very modern state of anything. Yeah not not really that many. So the the the big camel industry in the middle east is really in the gulf states. So by the the emirates day have johnny camel farms a of they buy but interestingly they also use israeli technology for milking and other things interesting. We're going to get into that. I might my girlfriends went to dubai. i think it was last year maybe two years ago and i know they went on this whole camel adventure into the desert and said it was totally wild. I actually wrote a camel twice at the bronx zoo. That really counts. And i was like. There's a difference between the two humped camels in the one. Humped camel is actually different breeds. Which one did you ride. Do you remember to a one hump traded at the bronx zoo and they had this special. You know i was eight years old. I i believe that they were the to hunt. Because i think that they kind of this not saddle but like this square saddle maybe nestled between the trump's for the. It could've just been one huh. I'm guessing it was a to hump of let me just tell you the difference in seconds so the there are two types two main types of camels and one is called the becky tyrian camel not like bacteria you know kind of similar. Bacteria camel and that one is has the two humps and lives mostly in asia and in the colder regions. So they also have a lot of for okay and and the two homes and then the desert camel is called the dromedary camel and dromedary camel has one hump and there are a few other differences but in general both of them a lot of their mostly the same animal. And they are. They are related. Actually two lamas and to focus all right. Is there so in right now. So i mean. I guess it's a great time for the camels to slide back into the scene road very cool. Well no i just wanted to tell you that In the last last summer well this last. Summer was colbert so this summer before that We were visiting family in new jersey and we rented an airbnb and it was actually a kind of like a townhouse inside of a or on the edge of a alpaca farm elliott. So we got to take pictures with al packers and play with them. That was awesome. Can i tell you i'm bringing little. I'll pack a slippers that handmade by this woman on at sea that i'm obsessed with a so. Oh my goodness my goodness so okay. I guess part of what i love about being working beauties that there's always some new hot crazy ingredient and a guest. You know here in the states. I haven't heard that much about camomile products but apparently it's really big in australia. Really big in asia clearly. The middle east camel. Milk is is something. That's been around for a while and actually heard that cleopatra they say used to bathe in camel milk and so they say so they say so. Why do you think it's taken so long to serve. Come into the mainstream. I think it's because y- because it's komo is itself is a it's a hard agree ingredient to come by even if you have a lot of camels because it's not they're not like cow's like a cow you can milk a cow all year long and they'll give like i dunno forty liters a day now the camel milk. The camel cow will give milk only while has a calf that is also feeding and then and then in normal circumstances you it for for the camel. Cow give milk. It has to be in a good mood. It has to be happy and it has an. It's it's baby has to be next to it and preferably even start the milking process like start feeding and then the camera will give you some milk but only maybe like four leaders up to seven so adding on the depending on the season and so so yeah so that that's also why even where there are a lot of camels camel. Milk is much much much more expensive than other types of milk and harder to come by. So that's one of the reasons now. I'm just sorry you just blew my mind a little bit. Like how how long. After they give birth they have this calf. Can you actually have a camel that you can get milk from so the the the caf will will after birth. Were live with the mother. An if in the wild luther mother for at least like really close to the mother for thirteen to eighteen months. Something like that yeah. I don't know exactly how long they they feed. But i think the whole probably the whole time so in order for you to get cal academy melk far matt. How long can a camel after giving birth fir first of all you have to get the camel through the birthing process. Well i mean we you know. We don't keep the camels so we work with a family owned camel farm and they have i think in total they have about you. Know twenty maybe twenty two animals or so and most of them are female. That's usually the way it is. I think they've two males or something and then you know about half of these females at the moment have have a havoc half so we will also give milk. And i mean it's it you know it's it's enough us and it's enough for like some low consumption. But in general the in general we work we work and we get it fresh from from the from the komo farm. Sorry i didn't mean to like go down this road but it but it's fascinating to meet right. I mean we go to the store. Get a gallon of milk. And i don't think that i really think much of that. I had no idea how rare this was So so maybe that's part of the reason why it hasn't been in the mainstream here in the states as much I well even though. I think i think you will see much more of it in the future. I mean there's there's there's a trend to to revive this ancient ingredient because it's just so amazing properties like not just for the skin but also in general for health. Well let's get into that a little bit to. What is it that is so special about camel. Milk that really. You decided to create an entire company around it. Well with us was we we some years ago. I had just closed the business after. I had a burnout and i i was going through. I just recovered from a burn out. I was i had the shingles and all these illnesses from all the stress that that i was under We so we ended up kind of moving to to get his change of scenery and we moved to israel and I also from during that time. I also develop vitiligo which maybe you can see. It's it's night here where i am. So you see in the daylight it's easier to see but there's like it's like pigmentation Pigmentation in the skin so vitiligo for those who don't know it's it's just you know it's just basically cosmetic condition but it's it's there is no cure for it and it is It is caused by stress. They say and this is. This is actually what michael jackson had. What made him sort of turn white and then so he tried to mask that. I with the glove dad operations to make his whole body white. So you wouldn't you know the contrast wouldn't wouldn't seem so but it's really i mean it's it's nothing that really. It's really just a cosmetic problem but of course it can. It can go on your psychology as well anyway. So so i you know. I was looking for for the beginning when i got this. I was looking for. What can we do about it in the night. You know kinda learned that. There's not much you can do. But i did spend a lot of time at the dead sea with very good people with exzema. Go there and with all kinds of With psoriasis to get that treated and has haven't tried the height the very high salt content. Correct yeah this address the salt and the minerals there. It's it's very. it's very known for that. They have a lot of therapies and also the sun. it's not it's the lowest point on earth it's like fourteen hundred feet below sea level. The dead sea. So it's it's hot and but you don't really get a sunburn even though it's you know it's One hundred degrees outside. Sorry to stop you there. If you're going to the dead seat still wear sunscreen because this is a beauty podcast and we can't advise you not to do it to forgive and mark. Seriously thank you for sharing your story with us stress. Is we all know that stress especially in this day and age really can take toll on the body but thank you for being so candid with us about how it affected you. Yeah i mean you know. That's that's the time that we had a friend that that actually gave us camel milk. Because he had a. He had a connection to a farm and he gave us come look said. Drink this at so healthy. Drink like a glass a day and we did that. And i mean after a few days i you know i was feeling much much much much better much less stress than just just more energetic all around and so then we started researching into this. You know what why why what is it is a detoxifying. What what is this camel. Why is it. Why is it so good for you. And then we found out like all this research opened up. So there's a lot of research that started in in In israel by a professor who just recently passed away just maybe a few months ago only at a high age though and he dedicated like the last four decades of his life to to studying camel milk. And he's the one that found out and this was like in the late seventies early eighties. He had a patient or he had a mother that brought her autistic child. That was always you know was having kind of fits and all these things and was really not doing good. And he gave the child camel milk and all of a sudden. The child miraculously like improved. Improved improved in all areas. And then they did a lot of research into it ex. it's actually autism has something to do with with. I think inflammation from gluten and from other from from from. It's it's really. It's partly nutritional thing that that creates some kind of compounds that that Affect the brain. I'm not a scientist. So i'm like oh i'm going to try to explain it but right now i mean if you google autism and kamil there are a i mean. It's it's like a known treatment. Now i don't know how many of the studies are clinical home. Any are anecdotes but This is like a. It's some people swear by it and it's you know it's similar like like they say you know. The kito died is good for epilepsy. And all that then you know and then it just it works for maybe eighty percent of the people but because it doesn't work for everybody they're not you know they don't they don't stallone recommended nathan recommend just just the medicine and and drugs but it's an industry thing that's an industry thing too But i have to ask you What what did that tastes like camel milk right so it i'm going to say it doesn't taste all the different from cow milk. It tastes a little bit more salty a little bit more salty and also it has less fat. it only has like two percent fat which you would think it'd probably a little thinner gonna it. Yes so. I'm i'm only going because i don't know that there's there's a place here in the states called bear burger and it is All organic needs. But it's different kind of meats you know. So it's not your hamburger but they've got bison ostrich and So many different weird meets an every time. I go there and try something. Different is such a hard time. Because i think my body wants it to be Wanted to be cow So i was thinking about the sound. Like would i try. Try this i mean. Of course i would. But i mean honestly i think if you had fresh council that was just like very gently pasteurize pretty fresh The you wouldn't taste much difference. I make it shake with it. And i put blueberries in it and some vanilla protein and it's also still how much how much how much camel milk now are you. Are you consuming. So i actually. I only consume camel milk. While i'm in israel i just fresh camel milk and i just have it here and it's just a treat otherwise i don't have like all year round or anything. How much how much is it there. I'm just curious on this like you go to a sword they just have it in in the store. You know you have to. You can only get it from a farm. That is has the that certified by the ministry of health to produce drinkable milk. Because there's like you know there are there are like bedouin tribes and they sell you camel. They milk but they don't have the hygiene standards and y- you're not you know it's it's not a good idea but official one. Yeah yeah you have to order it from your ordered from the farm and they have like a little distribution system but they don't. It's not available in the supermarket here. It may you know in in dubai. It may be because they have a very big milk production. And i think that's it's like a standard It's really part of their culture there so there there's a lot more especially in the last few years it's they started producing chocolate and all kinds of things made with camel milk fascinating you know cosmetics though because that's done we're coming back to that because it's i think there's a because i think it's not so easy to to effectively put it into skin care but we'll talk about that. Yeah like how did you. So how did you decide to go from okay. Tried this camel. Milk and feeling better and doing research is really. I don't wanna take your your Hathaway but i think i just wanna tell you like to three more things about camel milk that it's being used for also because we talked about autism and is just interesting to know that it also has insulin like properties. So if you're a diabetic you can actually use it at. You can drink camel into the lower your insulin levels. Wow okay so and it's the equivalent. I don't i've written down somewhere. I don't know what the but there's equivalent to whatever the insulin amount is so it's that's also interesting an interesting fact but what i'm sorry. Let's let's Down apologize it's all good. This is this goes. We have conversations And yeah and and yes the rb podcast. But i always i like to know the source of things in help people come to say. Hey maybe we should put this into skin. Care so full disclosure. I've never tried her. Skin care I have never Smelled it or felted or anything. So i can't speak to that. I was fascinated by this ingredient. That i was like well. Is this the newest hottest thing. And then i looked and it was like well. Maybe this goes back. Centuries of people. Consuming in camel can maven cleopatra. So how did you decide to then put it into skin care. Okay well our research. So our research showed that. It's also the people over the centuries as you said have really used it on their skin to treat skin conditions. So anything like psoriasis. Eczema today people use it for that it again. Maybe it's not an fda recommendation or anything like that but it's it's again it's done mcdonnell but there's whole communities that that swearing by it and so when when we found this out we had one of our children we have three children and our our second one was so mark children were small. We're living in israel and our second one. He had extremely dry skin. And i don't know how to explain it almost like if you if you like rubbed his skin his arms or his belly it. It felt almost as he had goosebumps wasn't as as but but loris like heritage assist. Loris can kind of feel like that. I don't know but also we didn't. We didn't we didn't have. We didn't have a diagnosed But you know but we did. We were in the pharmacy. Were here and then. We were researching and then in the and we found out on the internet at somebody who had something similar with extra dry skin. They went in. They were on holiday in egypt and they went to a pharmacy and the pharmacy. They sold them camel milk cream. They swore by it and they say it worked wonders and then we said wait a minute. We have komo milk. Why don't we just put on him and see what happens. And we put milk everyday a little bit. It was a little too liquid so we had to kind of Like we start trying to blended whatever but so we. We basically put milk on the skin and it and it helped we saw it helped and then we started researching all this and we found out like everything that that camel has been used for the skin. And then we're like you know going to stop you right there. Because i think before you get in trouble we've introduced to the we is here because i introduced you in this podcast founder elected. There is actually another half the sounder heart of this way. Who is my wife my wife tail so if i made it thirty minutes into a house but was added netflix. I'd be like okay. So you and your white founded this company because you saw this work done your and your son and will we Yeah so we saw. That camel helped our son and then we said well you know because we tried other things first and everything you tries like. It's so greasy or so. You know anything. that's think. Think about creams for like diaper rash. Yeah i don't know if you've ever used the want them on your fingers get that stuff off. Yeah ex puts say the best thing you could actually put on. Your body is vaseline but do you want to wrap your whole body in vaseline. You know your clothes and everything so we. We tried all kinds of things and there was nothing really that either helped or that was you know It was effective enough and when we saw that camel milk and we were because we were already like enthusiast about chemokine general Then we started digging into this and we said okay. Well you know calendar because medics with camel milk and then we saw that there are some labs in israel that had experienced with it they were producing a you know mostly soaps but there's also there will also some that were starting you know trying to do care and cream and then we started researching and then we started you know and we ended up working with the lab. This took a. I don't know. I took like two years to have formulations and everything to until we finally said okay. This is it this really works and But yes so so. We worked together with eleven israel. It's not our own lab but That we work very closely with them and Right and then it's it's we now. It's less than twelve months since we are. You know the final product in hand and that how many how many skews are in your mind or is it just one product or so we. We developed a we. We developed a bunch of products already but we only have four skews on the market okay. They're all just skin care. So body lotion. Body butter a hand cream and a foot cream now The body butter is something when you try that and I'm sure you will. It's the lightest body butter you've ever used so it's it's it's almost. It's almost more like a cream because the things with camel milk the the effects it has on the skin is that is that the is that it gets absorbed very quickly by the by the first skin layer short end. It and it transports all the all. The other ingredients that are in the product are also transported into the skin with it. So it's is it like a high end lactic acid you get some sort of Expoliation properties from it as well exactly it is it is high and lactic acids but in lactic acid. But so which is you know which is one of the milder. So you know and Yes oh yeah. There's Fully it's in cells and pumps it smoothens But it also has the camel. Milk itself has a lot of ingredients. That like you. You mentioned earlier. That in the industry always like new ingredients. Show always like the newest thing this then one year zinc Jojoba oil. What have you always new things and the thing is gone. Momo contains most of these like naturally in one ingredient so for example it has a lot of iron and zinc over minerals. That are that are essential for for nate healthy nails and has zinc and magnesium which is for acne and good for acting and it has a very high content of vitamin c. I think it's like six seven eight times the the the vitamin c content of cow milk. And the thing is the vitamin c is an. I know you talked about vitamin c and one of your recent episodes. Recently i talked about vitamin c. All the time because it's one of the things is like one of the four degree of what are the four things that every skin care routine has to have. There's a lotta race things to add. Vitamin c is like a really key component. The antioxidants checking your skin. So this is great producers colleges. Would you know yes and do you. Feel like the vitamin c. In this product is really kind of enough beneficial to like help the skin. It's very high content in vitamin c. And then now i you know. I don't know how how is when if you do a study. What it how it would compare to a chemically produced shared natural ingredients so the team in your products. Are there other other ingredients. I feel like there's such a push now to clean which we know is not very designed to clean ingredients in going more natural. Can you tell us about what some of the other ingredients are within these formulations right. I can certainly tell you that just to But just just to finish because there's there's camel. Milk has more ingredients camel omega fats. Camel milk has natural lanna linden. It okay so if you use like a normal lambinon product on your skin. It's similar to like what happens with argon oil. It's good for the skin but if you do too much it just saturates the skit. It just doesn't go through and so so the the land in kalomo it. It's not a very high amount but there's you know but it has the effect But okay all right. Let's so our products are relations. We so we believe that. Whatever you Whatever you put on your body basically or whatever you put on your skin goes into your body absolutely as if you would ingest it so everything ends up in the bloodstream and all you know toxins environmental of environmental Yours formulated out. All the bad stuff about the self aids about aramis ours. We have exactly ours. Our products are completely natural. combine with other Essential oils okay. Wow so this is. One of them is almost one hundred percent cam aloke and been essential oils. Okay you know how most Most proud most cosmetic products whether it be a cleansing products like shampoos and and and shower gels or skin care products. Much of them actually have a very large quantity of water. Yes they're they're basically on many. Yes exactly so and what we did. Is we replaced a big part of that water with camel. Milk grow having air with us if you pause again because i it's nine it's nine. It's by nine. just kind. just wondering what the consistencies like The body waters is like lighter than a butter. Almost free mike. And then you've got a hand in seek covered and then say scream known body lotion body. Lotion chavis yeah. And they're they differ mainly in the extra essential oils the additional essential oils that we add but basically are formulations. Is that we that if you that. Our products have more camel milk than water in them or the same amount. So we're talking about you. Know around thirty percent depending on which which product so for people you know. We do have audience worldwide. Where do people get these products. Okay these products Right now because we're relatively new on the market. She'll into you in the us. We have a website and it's called communautaire dot com which is spelled with a double m. a. double n. a. Double t. so let's see a. M. e. l. l. att comment lendable eligibility. I hope that works sankara. While i can. They get just and we just released on. Am we just launched. We just listed the products on amazon. So you can find them. There was great wonderful and rush amazon. I feel like that you know you're everywhere. Well you can't get around amazon you kind of have to work with them now but Yeah so and you know the but you will see. Our products is because of the camel. 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A Warriors Garden

Veteran On the Move

31:13 min | 1 year ago

A Warriors Garden

"I'm a veteran. Malachi gaskin is hoping veterans through the therapeutic effects of gardening. A Warriors Garden is coming up next a veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition an entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that. GOP escape this. PODCAST is dedicated to your success. Now your host Joe Green this episode is brought to you by Navy Federal Navy federal has a mission to put your members I by making their financial goals a priority. You can receive a lifetime membership benefits to help you. You and your family accomplish your life missions. It's open to active duty military the DOD veterans and their family members navy. Federal is proud to serve over eight million members including over one million veterans and their families visit navyfederal dot org slash veteran. Move for more information. Hey today we're talking with Malachite Gaskin with a worse garden so Malachi take us back and tell us which you've been doing in the army guard and the army. Thank thank you so nineteen ninety four. I got my ged. And I went down and saw national guard. Recruiter had been sitting at coffee houses with buddies of mine. They're like moment you had joined the guard and it just for me. It made sense because all the guys in my family always serve like. It's just kind of a thing we do so I got my ged. And I went down onslow recruiter and went onto maps and I scored really well the AB. They're like okay so we're the national guard so we only have so many options uh-huh and you scored high enough so about being a medic and was a medic. Do they're like they're like medic. Cool man medics get to work with the infantry guys and they get to do all this cool stuff you could do IV's. And I'm like. Oh I'll do that. Let's do that. You know I go to ninety four. I go to basic four because the funny part was like. Do you WanNa leave tomorrow or do you WANNA leave next month for basic and I was like oh I got to go home and get my stop reading like I got car payments and all I got to get that squared away all right so I ran home. Because they're going to send me like I was going to leave the next morning and has not to run back in the house real quick and so I got you know. In the next month I left and went to Fort Knox Kentucky for basic training. At the time it was the last all-male basic training And then I went to Fort Sam Houston for AIT six eight whiskey. And I got home and and I was with Charlie Company first to ninety third between Fort Wayne Indiana as a combat medic line medic for their victory tune And well I was actually the metric for the company because we only had one medic for the entire tire company and I was there long enough to see the other. Medics come in and then transitioned over to be eleven bravo because you know what I mean. Let's be real like when you're in the woods every weekend. Can you know doing the drill thing for the National Guard. It's a little bit more fun to be blowing stuff up than to be putting mole skin on people's feet you know so so I request you to eleven eleven Bravo I made it all the way up to staff sergeant and then was offered eighty-seven position with a medical company out of Indianapolis One Thirteenth Support Battalion. Diane and so I went down to Indianapolis and took an seven job and I got frost which is basically pinned but not paid yet and I wore or that were about nine months and then I got officially officially pin for two months and then I got out because I got into A. There's a lot of my first sergeant in that union. I got into it and I just I was done. What's IT GONNA stay in album gay? Oh I know and then so I was out for about three years and I was trying to be a rock star we owned a family business. Doing landscaping And my dad passed away in two thousand four and the banks kind of came in. And we're just like I don't know what he did because he wouldn't let anybody look at the books he was in charge of the finances And so what he ended up doing was he had money to loan to by loans to secure other loans to buy equipment. That was like the Prophet unload. It was this crazy. Weird thing that Probably within the next six wants to a year he would have been busted for some kind of federal something about the way he was running bank money like consumer loans from other banks to pay off other loans. It was crazy And so he passed away and the banks came in and said wait. You've got about a couple months when you normally shut down for the year this Indiana. So Snow's pretty good in the wintertime. And so we're like you know. Hey November usually shut down around thanksgiving. Well thanksgiving closing the doors. So that's two thousand four flash for two thousand six. My wife and I are homeless. Living on my mom's couch with three kids and I was like I don't know what to do and the other thing is I know our landscaping music in the military. I don't want to cut people's grass anymore. Uh Music isn't paying the bills and I think I need to go see an active duty recruiter and this is in two thousand six. My wife was like okay John Coming up to the peak of the war. Yeah And my wife was like all right. I mean we gotta do and so. I went through a recruiter in January of six and in April the six on a plane to Fort Sill to re to reintegrate and active duty army me and and left. There went to force Santa Fe New Mexico for a month with an MEC New Mexico. National Guard had a warrior transition transition program that if you were prior service and had been out for so long or if you were National Guard reserves going active duty you would go through this thirty day program so I did that and then I went to Fort Stewart Georgia Wardrobe with Third Infantry Division Zehr for about eleven months and then deployed for fifteen months. Came home for nine months deployed for thirteen months came home and then start a medical retirement board award. Well well so tell us a little bit about your transition out of the army after you'd gone back in and what was that like for you. The good the bad the ugly yes so why transition out of the guard. It was really simple because I stated the local community where I was raised When I left active duty I was being med boarded? I was in amid word for two and a half years because they couldn't consolidate my prior service military records with my current military records. Because they were going to the wrong national guard Area they were going to the DC bureau instead of the Indiana National Guard and so after about two years I was kind of like. Hey what's taking so long because I've watched people come in and and go after me And I don't know what to do here. I said were living on post when this is all said and done. I'm going to have thirty days to get get out and I need to be prepared like what's going on and there we can't and they told me you know we can't consolidate your records and so I made some phone calls to some friends in the National Guard and got my record within twenty minutes And got a taking care but my publisher. I ended up writing a book on right before I retired. My publisher was like you should come up to Nashville and checkout Tennessee. Because you're just too many options nations for veterans our goal was we were moving to Daytona beach. We were going to get it little two to three Acre plot. We start a little farm. Have a roadside stand. Be Beach bombs known. I mean we're just GonNa go live off the land and so my wife would just kind of like you know like all right. Let's go check out. We came up Tennessee for a four day weekend and next thing I know I was offered a job. We've found house. I was introduced to community. People like everything just fell into place and I was like well. I'm not gonNA argue. You know I'm I'm I'm a big believer in God and I'm just like I'm not gonNA argue with what I believe Mike. I'm going to go like I'm going to follow the lead as we came up here and we went from in two thousand six. We went from homeless to two thousand fourteen or sixteen gene We bought a twenty two farm in in Columbia Tennessee. Just south of Nashville of my transition was it was different because I had. I had some people in the veteran community that we're all over the country that were just like I'm not going to let you fall through the cracks like others half for some reason people reached back and grabbed me right away and I was set up for success in a way way that I had a civilian mentor. Where I was going at it was tied into my community and then I had several veteran commentors? Ed already successfully transitioned that every time I had. I hit roadblocks as as a veteran trying to navigate the civilian communities. They were just kind of like you know what's going on where you struggling at. How can I help? And so that's where I think that's where my success is a little different than some other other guys and Gals is that I had to very specific mentors instead of just a veteran that I was watching onto. I had that civilian. That never served. That was tied into the community where I was trying to go and so they get into like hey. Let me help you with the resume. Hey let me help you. Like how to talk to civilians. Because let's be real. We get out. That's one of our biggest drawbacks as we talk ought to civilians like we talked to other military people and that doesn't go over well and so yeah. It's like my first job. I had I walked could I was. I was hired to be the office manager for this Credit Card Processing Company that they credit card processing and identity theft management and after our first my first week of being being actually in charge we had a board meeting for the week and The owner of the company was Cal Academy this marking plan. And this is my idea. And now we're GONNA do that. That stupid stupid listening to this and he goes. Oh that's actually a good idea. Yeah you already know where I'm going with us right and so after the meeting. Hey can you stick back for a minute and I was again. What's up and and he goes up? You can't call me stupid. I was like I didn't. He was like no. You said I'm stupid. I'm like no no no what I said was. We're not GONNA do that that stupid. I'm calling you. The idea just doesn't going to work and he was like any sat back. He was very intelligent. He sits back and he goes. I think we have a communication gap between the military and then me and and I was like okay. What he did was he made very like he was like I want to start? I would have lunch with you every week for the next ten weeks. I'm like okay. And so for the next ten. We yeah and he sat sat down with me and he learned how I talk and he actually helped me okay so he actually mean he made notes at lunches and what are you doing. He's very very very studious about it. And so at the end of it he was like all right. So here's here's what I found and he's like we're GonNa Taylor how you talk. We're going to find a less aggressive way for you to say it. He was like because we use the way you talk in the military he does. It was probably normal. He goes but here comes off as very aggressive and civilian communities. I'm GonNa help you fix that Mike Okay and so I found out. I learned how to talk better. Because it's not that I was talking wrong. It was just there was a better way to do it and I. I took time to invest in me when I got out. Who cared and he was just a huge? He's huge and he's a big supporter of mine. Ever since like when I started my landscape company when I started my farm When I started my public speaking and doing all that he spent shoot when I started my nonprofit profit like he has just been a huge huge supporter of just all the different changes? I've made in all the different moves I've made you know that's actually amazing. I find it very intriguing because we know oh this happens all the time when veterans go into the civilian sector. They harshness and aggressiveness. In the and people get their people get offended and hurt Nixon. You know you know you're out on the street again but to have a guy not take that personal actually say let me find out what's going on here and he actually liked dissect it in got closer closer to you instead of farther away from you in figured it out and eventually forced you to kind of reeducate or start acting in a more civilized manner if you will yeah so that so that she pushed through it in and got three C.. You must realize there is some value in who you were. What you're doing? You were just coming across wrong wrong right whereas most employers would have just gotten rid of you that he actually was able to take a step back back in and see that there was an underlying issue That wasn't necessarily you know you you just. It was the culture in which you had come from right and and I think that some of that was he. He just wanted to hire a veteran. He wanted to give back because he didn't serve. He was very proud of our country is very proud of our military and he told me this all the time but I think one of the things was he just. He wanted to hire a veteran and I came with a skill set that he wanted and so he spent like we spent three different. Four different phone calls doing interviews before before I even came to Nashville and when I came to Nashville like I. I came up on Valentine's Day. Two thousand fourteen with a with a penske truck and my son and we unloaded our truck into our new house and then I went back home and picked up the wife and daughter and another load of penske truck and cleared housing and this is a three day period right. We drove up. Stay the night unloaded. The truck came back unloaded. The truck drove back and then when we got back the very next morning I got a penske fully loaded penski truck in my driveway and I'm going to a job interview on the day. I got off of active duty. I'm just starting my transition we. I'm walking into a job. That's not. That's not indicative most veterans like you don't get Out just go to a job interview But I'd spent six months prior to getting out trying to set up my next step. You know what I mean because I didn't want to just walk out and have no plan and so I got up there and he literally interviewed me for six and a half hours a day. I interviewed with him and I interviewed with the head of all the major departments in the company and it was just sick sick. Are you kidding me. Like he took me to launch. We had breakfast together like we spent the whole day. Just interviewing with all these different. I'm like what is going on. So he was just really invested. He wanted a veteran. I came like I said I think I came with that skill. Set of time management of people I did have pretty solid people skills with just my way. Talk to people sometimes can be very aggressive Oh and I think once. He realized that he was investing in the future of his companies. 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This is my head shoulders knees and toes and so when I got out Right before I had retired I wrote this book called a Warriors Guard which was kind of a it was a self Self Therapeutic Journey for PTSD. Because I was so tired already and this was just wild on active duty eighty but I was already tired of taking you know. The the narcotic medications the pain medications the all this stuff and I was going to therapy every week and none of it. I didn't feel any of it was really really helping. And so I wrote this book about all the different things I'd started doing on my own and for me. It was three specific things. It was growing deepened. My faith that was getting deeper with music and it was Mike Gardening And it really that right. There launched everything else that I've kind of gone into To include our nonprofit warfighter gardens. And that's really it's a therapy program. It's horticultural therapy program. Where we build therapy guards for veterans first responders and Gold Star family members And then we teach them how to you. Use a garden as therapy. It's not just like how to grow food. It's actually how to get involved into the garden to grow yourself Warriors Guard has really become. It's a self therapeutic movement like the US uses parts of it. We've I've had college universities. Now that are teaching my book and their and their psychology departments The Walter Reed Hospital Bethesda. Maryland has a garden program on campus. That they took from me. So it's it's really it's it's a warriors warriors garden has turned from. It was just a book that I was writing because my publisher. WHO's a friend of mine was like you know? Hey you should write a book about all the stuff you're doing and it really turned into a cell therapeutic callisto kind of self healing because it wasn't waiting on anybody else. Yes so we've we've been discussing a lot on the podcast with their folks about farming in general and veterans going into farming Like a lot of like a lot of the baby. boomer generation nation is retiring. And they're getting too old. A lot of baby boomers are farmers. And there's not a lot of young guys coming in behind him to continue on with farming so it really gardening's or or micro farming and there's a lot of micro micro herbs or the term escapes me at the moment. But basically basically micronutrients and Mike Micro Greens micro Greens exactly so you re things that can sell for at a really high end level you know Oh like fifteen twenty dollars a pound for this stuff and you can grow it in small areas and still being profitable so this whole farming and gardening gene in grown micro new Migraines and everything is very interesting. There's a lot a lot going on there and the USDA's got special. Bergen sponsor all this so I it's it's definitely seventy legit thing. And what is the therapeutic benefit to a veteran of doing doing these this this Gordon and micro for me so I found that you know as a veteran as someone who's like I was a combat medic while I was deployed. The first time you know my chain of command. The end found out that I was prior service had been treated and they were like. Oh you're going to be a squad leader. I ended up doing both jobs. So I'm kicking in doors wearing an aide bag clean villages with my brothers from the front line. Not Not not from the you know the back of the squad as as a medic being prepared to treat. I wouldn't kicking in the door and ready to assault and then retreat later. You know and and so what I found is that as a as someone going through their own healing journey is that when you get down in the ground and you and you get to do this process where you you build the garden guide. You all raised bets right. So they're all boxes that I build the custom design. And so you build this box you fill it with dirt you put the seat in your water nurtured you love it. You grow the plant you harvest the fruit you and then you hold onto these okay and so you grow this fruit that will sustain your family or yourself rice and now now you're you're creating your own food sustainability but but then you get to overgrown prefer seed production for the next year now not only have you created a Reduce of stress and a reduced exacerbated. PTSD signals. Because I create at been able to help you or you helped yourself. fulfill one of Maslow's hierarchy needs. Right which is food so I know where my foods coming from well now five knowing where my boots coming from. It doesn't cost almost anything to do that now. I've reduced my financial nanteuil strain in my financial budget. So I've reduced two of the things on my maslow's hierarchy is right finances and food so those things are taken care of. But now I can take the seed from the food that I've grown and I can hold that until next spring and I can replant. That's now I don't have to buy more seed and I've created an entire circle of life and so now. Instead of seeing destruction death people died in ideas. Blow up now. I get to see the life cycle happening. It's all it's doing all it splendor to go from seed seed to seed again and so to see that you kind of you. Don't delete what you've been through but you change your helps shift your focus from your trauma and shifts her focus onto your growth and so now you're paying more attention to how you're getting better than what you went through and when that happens when that focus that ship happens at priority level changes and life gets easier in probably the therapeutic concept of. You're creating something you know. You're actually you actually digging in the dirt with your hands and you're you're creating something you're washing life happen and like you said you create that sustainable circle and you you start seeing it. Come you know come full circle every year or even multiple times throughout the year. What fulfils all three needs of the human fulfills a spiritual connection of Avila's a creative outlet outlet and it fulfils a physical meet because physically? You're up up your couch. You're doing something spiritually. You're connected to something. That's bigger than yourself and creatively. Now you're looking at. What do I plan my garden for next year? How do I set it up? How do I want laid out you know? How am I going to harvest? Where am I going where am I going to hold it? How long can I keep it do wanting to free some of it but it creates you're using all the parts of who you are instead of just sitting there doing one thing and I did it? I felt like when I got out. I you know I worked with this guy for a year and then I started my own landscape company and then I was taken off. I was building gardens for people. I was mowing people's grass again. I didn't WanNa do but I was doing it And I tore four meniscus and it was like I couldn't work anymore because I couldn't walk all day long and so I got stuck in the whole like playing video games drinking beer cheetos. You know. We'll just not doing anything you know just living off my disability and it was just kind of like I didn't know what to do and I had a buddy again another veteran buddy reach back and it's like what are you doing now like nothing just playing video games would he do. And he's like me. It lifts community tomorrow for Lunch on buying. I'm like I never turned out free food. You know and You know I went out to lipscomb and next thing. I knew I was going home with the class. Schedule is registered to go to school. And I'm like Whoa wait a minute and I got my degree and we bought our farm. But it's I think veterans are migrating to agriculture. Because one we can do it by ourselves. We don't need any to supervise us. There's a like the. USDA THE FDA pilot programs for us What is it not the? Va But Look we have has programs for us. And then there's nonprofits out there like farmer veteran coalition that will support the crap out of you can get you up off the ground But it's so easy to start like in my book. Show people where you can take and you can take a gallon jug and grow your own pepper plants on your windowsill and you don't need to spend any money because you've already got a gallon. Gallon Milk Jug. You need a pair of scissors and eating dirt out of your backyard. You know and then you can already take a green pepper or lunchbox pepper from the grocery store that you already bought doc and harvest the seed from it. So you're not spending any extra money but it shows you that's how simple it is to get started so what we through some of the mechanics in some of the details of how how you're you're getting people started like you guys come into your website and say they want to try this or and then some show you know box shows up in the mail that they put together or what like what are the McCain. mclane look getting them. Involved gets a little. It's a little more. What we what we like to locally? We have multiple gardens on our farm. That veterans can come out and try and if the if they like it what we'll do is we'll we'll sit sit down with them and costume design a garden with them. And you're in the Nashville. Where about our south of Nashville Hookah And so what we'll do is we'll we'll do a fundraiser. And then we'll get home depot or office or a or lows or whatever and just be like. Hey would you be willing to support. I've had really really good luck with with both those entities going. Yeah we can give you up to this amount and then it really makes it easier for us to do a small fundraiser. And then we go and I sit down I so far have been the one to sit down every veteran builder garden. And we do it together And because it's because it's part of the process I wanted to do it and the only stipulation is that we really have is that you're a veteran first responder family member and that you either own your house or buying your house or have a letter from your landlord saying that you can have it because I don't want to build it and then have your landlord come in and say oh no you can have this and then we just waste all that time effort money with you to get it set up. But but those are really the only restriction restrict they can go to the website they could message us through our website you know at Warriors Garden Dot Com and dispel. CAD like to talk to you about getting garden and I'm usually myself and my wife or one of my board member one of the ones that'll reach out and be like you know. Hey this is you know we're GonNa send you a emailer has a list and it's really like ten questions the feel that questions out and then we vote on getting everybody set up. Do you have any. Are there any big success stories with any individual veterans that really stand endo. I've got a couple of veterans that I've worked with like I had a veteran up in Michigan. That just keep actually passed away recently But he every month he he. It fell in love with the concept. I didn't build a garden because then get a chance to get the Michigan but he fell in love with the concepts and the ideas and the process of everything so much that every month he would call me and I want to buy a box of fifty bucks and I was like what and so what I do is I would sell him a box of fifty books if he was a distributor. So you didn't pay any profit on it. And he was. He was giving them away and then I've got veterans. I've got to veterans here. Want national of one's about thirty minutes south of me that that I built them gardens this last year and the year before. They're not talking. Really Large. Like one garden was seventeen by seventeen foot long by eleven foot long by three report both reports L. Shape and they're both wide and there was two of those and then there was two two guards in the center of that there were three foot by eight foot And it took us a day to build it and fill what would dirt and then I had another one where we built. It was nineteen foot long by six foot deep and had cut out and I had border. Transit was very intricate And it set up to where you can use the organic methods of using marigolds and radishes and other flowers implants to use as your pest control that he plans you go And so and both of them one of them it's it's really sustained him emotionally but it's also helped him the one with the the nineteen six in Nashville He's using it to sustain his. He has airbnb you. And so he uses it to the table and his airbnb and so and then the other one he feeds his family out of it and the the beauty of that that one was. We were building the gardens together and I were six memorial bracelets for Friends of mine that were killed in combat and as we're building this garden cutting the lumber it looks at my bracelets and he snatches is my wrists and he goes how do you know how do you know fiscus an Easter and I was like well fiscus was the first platoon leader. I ever served on her in. Probably the best commander I ever had and Easter was one of the first. NCO's NCO's it ever ever took an interest in work with me. And he was like I was there when they were killed. Ghanistan like he was on the FOB. He'll like the recovery process. The whole deal we'd never met. I'm from Indiana. He's from Tennessee. You know like He. He did a backfill on our unit that deployed Afghanistan Mild Guard unit. And that's how they met and it's just like I didn't like I've met him randomly because my mom was getting is surgery and he was at the same eye doctor. Yeah but he's. Suzy is definitely grown from. He's had a lot a lot of love. What the brings his kids out there? You spend more family time. It's been definitely a connection piece for the family. Well Malka. We're getting closer every time time. So you kind of brush over really quick if somebody's interested in in getting involved in In farming or gardening or micro farming. How go to hold of you with the program that you're doing? They can email us at Malachi M. A. L. A. C. H. A. S. at a warriors EARS GARDEN DOT COM. They can send a message through our website which is www dot a warriors garden dot COM Or they actually call us at nine three one five two nine three two two six. We don't answer leave his voice mail. We'll get back to you the same day and you've got a book called Garden. Also we find it on Amazon unreal online. I in the same website you can get on all the major bookstores. You can get it from if you buy from my website. You're likely to get quicker. I'm a little faster than Amazon Amazon. Shipping it so that's hard to believe me. That's impressive Amazon. My printing companies a third party vendor to Amazon Amazon. And if I order it from I can order. ONESIES twosies Amazon waits until they're seventy orders and they ship them all at once so they're like doing on demand printing. Yeah Yeah Okay. Let's cool well. Hey It's also I WanNa give you last word You've started a nonprofit running a nonprofit. You've written a book you you've got some some great entrepreneurial you're renting your own farm to get some great. I veteran entrepreneurial stories that we could probably talk for another couple of hours about about. But I'll give you a chance if you talk into that guy. That's in the military or Gal or the military spouse and you know them as family. Whatever they're they're they're looking to get out here soon or already in their transition or maybe they've landed already don't really like where they've landed? What kind of things come to mind to? You can't the vice. Would you have for him reach out to organizations like score reach out to organizations like EEO which is entrepreneurs organization. Reach out to your local veteran veteran groups. I'm not a big fan of the service organizations like the American Legion VFW. But I know if you need them. They're there right so I'm not gonNA talk bad. Aww I'm for me personally. I don't utilize them. But if you're in a situation where you're not happy with where you're at or the way things are going the trajectory you're on these are places you can go and don't be afraid to reach out to them. And that's the biggest the biggest issue with most veterans as we get out and we don't Wanna ask her out because we're like we're too stubborn but it's like you know when you're on active duty. What did you do if you didn't know how to do something? You went to your next line supervisor. Like Hey I don't know how to do this. Can you teach me bright at so and then the other thing is if you're just sitting if you find yourself sitting on your couch and you're just waiting for things to happen. What happened to the in in the absence of orders take initiative? Get up and just decide to do something right every day. And and even if you know if I know that there's guys and gals out there that are broken physically physically that they just they they. It's not going to happen for them right away. So okay cool but don't just sit there on the couch to knuckle find something something. That's not Netflix. Something that's not video games. Find something everyday to challenge yourself and get up and do it. BELCO say great advice. Great Stories were appreciate you sharing your your stories your struggles your success story so look for your future success and maybe have you back on the show another year or so and talk more better warriors garden. I appreciate it thank you bet. These two veterans are asking Dak victory listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like the show leave us a review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until the next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Works Outs and Watchmen - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - 11/12/19

Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project

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Works Outs and Watchmen - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - 11/12/19

"Welcome to still entitled the Adam Savage Project I will and I'm norm. We're on the wrong side. The water is inverted sides. The reason we are not in the cave today and I know that regular tested listeners. Love to be teased. The reason we're not is because the project I'm working on over there is so secret we can't even tell you about it until like can even be in the same building announcing the announcement of the project summer. This is is 'cause people love this. This is going to be great. I can't wait to read the comments on this one. Because being franchise movie coming out next summer Oh you said too much already. Yeah they're so. Oh good out there. You guys are so good at guessing Madagascar five coming out exactly actly over the heads of three. Hey so I wanted to talk about something that happened this week okay. There's a lot of stuff that happened this week. Most importantly VR game in came out called double tap no pistol whipped male. But now I'm leaving that in you have. I have to leave that type of different game. Now that's how you play having a double tap because there's a penalty for accuracy. Oh is there the score can be your John Wick stimulator. Yeah you gotta play true to your feelings. It's my chest or is it one of the chest to to the head. I can't remember. Hi actually recently noticed how okay. Let's talk about this for the game is yes with is a VR game. That is really in a very similar. A A vein to super hot. And it'd be like this marriage between the two and it's also like you're John Wick running down a hallway killing bad guys. It's a rhythm game the thing you have to do on the beat is shoot people yup in the body or the head and it is not only. Is it thrilling doing. But I want to tell you. My thighs are on fire. This week I got is. There's so much squatting and jumping and moving and swaying. I got out of the car and and was like Oh God I love. This is what it feels like to be twenty years older horrible some really great Forty four what. It feels like to be eight years shit who play beat sabre have giant forearms especially if you wear the weights. Yeah and people were you. We're GONNA play pistol-whipping of giant giant cat. I told I told you this morning. Pistol whip is like date is like that day and beat sabre is armed day so yes so so so This was made by cloud head games. They made a ton of stuff. They made the portal. The poor aperture science hand lab. They've made the Gallery Games so early. VR developers have been working for about six years Vr and the first of your games were missed basically VR game adventure puzzle Games which did okay and they actually were the people who brought forth like snap turning in Vr. Use The thumb stick and snap and turn not smooth her and that's comparable th. They figured that out they they made it worse. Yes well they figured that lurks. Don't work. I mean ninety percent of people really don't work for fibers is a linear expression of. I can't remember that stands for but it basically means you jump and it doesn't blink out the movement it just shows it in like six frames but the point is they're doing linear locomotion here in a way that makes no one. I put in this game sick. Most of the time when you move linearly a certain a larger percentage of people than than just and still will feel motion sick after a short period of time. mm-hmm and I am one of those as their reason that it works because I found myself thinking it's because you're kind of always looking at the horizon which is the advice they give you when you get that so there's no acceleration acceleration. There's no linear always moving same direction. So you're it's the same as being in a train that's moving same speed or car or whatever. There's no Oh Horizon Bob. There's no they're really careful like the gun. Does a little bit of a just a the model of bulges out a little bit on the beat but other than that. There's nothing and also I think those I think those alternating tiles on the ground also helped because they give you more speed movement. It isn't a ludicrously pleasurable game to play. I can't stop playing. Yeah have you tried turning off the auto aim and stuff I have not yet. I've literally only just gotten through. Most of the levels on normal going easy to normal was surprisingly I can get through the very first one I think on hard but maybe just get almost to the end and then die I and and the thing. That's interesting I died with four seconds left on one of the level frustrating the below the levels the thing that's needed the levels the basic. The tile inside is the same with the difficulty levels but they had different obstacles. They put the enemies. It's not just more enemies out of the same places. They're spotting them in different places. You can't count on it and they're giving you like normal you're presented with maybe two or three guys maybe four most on hard it will spawn the grid of four to four by four grids or two two by two grids. And you have to John Wick. That Shit I think the reason you think it's fun is it to you. It's like this fulfills a a fantasy the same way beat sabre fulfills fantasy run sabre created using the rhythm music game as a template. Let you give your purpose but let you really it. Just play out the Djeddai fantasy and they did it in a really interesting way. Which is they gave you points for accuracy? But they didn't necessarily make you suffer a a out of proportion for lack of accuracy correct. Yeah like you get the breaks you can make it through all the the whole level of beat sabre and it might not be pretty. But it'll be done and the winning awesome and the opening up of the aiming so that closest good enough is a fascinating way to make you more interested in getting better at aiming without having it be this too high of a threshold at the fornet. I noticed my aiming. Accuracy is about seventy five percents feels feels pretty good. Yeah well it's so the scoring is interesting because a beat sabre is a little esoteric right. Beats Abor it's about the arm the motion of your arm. And the and the the the length of your swing and the speed and the timing is a bunch of stories told by beat sabre expert last week that a lot of people just by moving their wrists said like real professional players aren't moving. I'm very much at all. Despite the Games attempt to the ones that are fun to watch our CON You know Metoo I move a lot so would this you have One hundred points for accuracy hundred points per timing and the closed yard of the beat. The more you get that Little Red Circle above the guy when you shoot him and then okay accuracy. AC- is about Senator Bass or head. I think but if you hit a limb or handers like that doesn't count. Well I'm been having so much of this game or a play. We can play together networks. Can we can leaderboards. We could see how we wake up in the morning and seeing who has the better score amongst your friends. Oh okay so we can. We can compare scored okay then you have to teach me how to like virtual space. So I've done here. We go hang out in that beautiful postmodern loft. I have I wish I just WANNA I spend more time in that space. Yeah the the thing that they don't have is I think cross by former leaderboards. So I've so far. RUN DOWN The wireless battery. I think three or four times buying it which is like an hour per session probably. It's a very good game it's it is I am I am. I'm thinking about right now. I just want to go play. It may end up being the thing that causes me me to attach a battery pack to the back of my head set or your boss. Yeah I've noticed people vast you can buy that will slip a USB back behind your keble so that's basically what the vile is packed. I just put my pocket along and of course the the out everywhere right. It's out on rift quest. Yeah it'll come to ps four and then also the XAVER. Three six deepak is supposed to hit some time between now and December so there is a brand a new music. Pack for beat Saber rattling sound. Luckily Music monstercast. I played a couple of those are really really fun. This is the interesting thing is the. EDM Yours guys music. I like EDM. But it's not something I listened to and listened to casualty neither. Sometimes I do is it is Jamie hyneman workout workout music really. Yep Jimmy works out Jamie Jamie hyneman works out every day. And that's why he's GonNa outlive all of it. Oh Jamie Jamie I don't know what his workout is these days for a long time. When we were on tour it was kettlebells? You can see that when for a long time on mythbusters he just loved this guy. He's so bizarre. He's like while I thought about how to exercise as many of my muscle groups possible in the most efficient amount of time time and So what I ended up doing was setting my treadmill to its steepest setting and then I carry seventy pounds up hell for forty five minutes horrible. That sounds awful. Let me tell you being somebody who has like built costumes for for Jamie and painted him. Gold he is a worthy is completely he is the literal definition of barrel. Chested turns the mustache. Absolutely yeah you gotTa have to have a moustache like that. You have to have a physique. Yeah I remember actually I see the same physical therapists that he sees. He's because he introduced them to me and they're terrific and one of the things that he was really impressed by was they taught him brand new ways of working out older muscle groups. Oh ooh which involved less repetition and more like because he had he had a he had a tricky knee for a little while. And it's really hard to workout. Yeah it's really difficult and if I remember correctly and forgive me medical medical listeners if I if I get your radio they what they had them do is go into a squat where the knee is holding the tension. But he's not doing repetition. He's just holding it there until he can't and he collapses into a Matt That's below Oh him and then take a little brighter and do it again if you're basically it's this very low impact strength training and he was blown away by how quickly so the reason I mentioning Jamie being surprised by someone teaching them a new thing. He's always researching efficiency in ways to work out all the muscles he really like. He wants to keep his body running for as long as possible. which is hilarious? Because when he gets sick he gets really pissed. Oh Yeah can't can't handle the weakness of the flesh Himba him maximizing the trendall angle carrying weight versus you doing John John Wick simulator and VR. Is the quintessential difference between really. But Jamie is somebody who when he talks to like people who study study a cognitive load and mental conditioning. And stuff like that. I remember him twenty years ago. Saying I come up with all my best ideas during my workout so I tried to choose tedious monotonous workout. So the Lao me to think about Random Shit and studies totally bear this out. That exercise is a fantastic way. Let your brain kind of free fly. I mean it's the same as doing tedious work in the shop. Where you don't have to think about it you just have to do it over? Mowing is great pushing that more. Yeah flows down to think eh that flow state Speaking of Saber do the teas now. There is a beat sabre related one day. Build coming in the near us. uh-huh yeah ooh yes we did and we did a yeah. I need to me because I can't figure I so. Yeah Okay Yeah Stay tuned BC. Yeah to Jesus Christ teasing and to be continued. Can we talk about some shows that are currently airing on a weekly basis. That I'm loving. Like the watchmen dude. Okay so I'm only three episodes and I haven't seen the fourth that aired last night. Yeah I will watch tomorrow and they would have never tone which is fine but I. I'm so excited episode three. So let's say this up a little bit of four. Regina King King of course is the main star it is a sequel. To the book watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons not necessarily the movie although there are visual references to they went into the day talking about the squid so they're erecting to the to the book to not the fell and it's set in two thousand nineteen alternate reality where the world is different. You know what happened if if Nixon was president for four terms and then was followed by an hour named Radford right after Ford and the building of the show that they do is not just expedition. That's laid out to you discovered as you watched the show. And they and they they they actually go deep into one of the center set pieces of the first three episodes that I've seen Are the Tulsa race riots the race or the massacres Manitoba Massacre. Yeah Race Right. It's a massacre. It was a it was a riot where the white people were upset that there was a prosperous black community and and one of the most prosperous communities in the United States it was called Black Wall Street and it was an entire effective part of a city in which the local white people were so incensed about it they not only showed up and murdered hundreds and hundreds of people they were flying planes over dropping bombs firebombs on the they raised an entire town are a key. It's a horrifying part of American history. Because it happened in the twenties they never do. It's funny going on the south. It's something they don't teach you shocked to hear about that and they Tulsa has reparations in the show one of the things that happens is that Tulsa confronted itself and applied reparations. And it's not a simple matter. It's a complex. Social thing that goes on in that also weaves into the I I found really fascinating. One of the really passing Meta things about this show is an HBO show and much like the way HBO's Producers Making Westworld and and watch men. I and even shoe detective week by week release. They are well aware of kind of the online following. Even the US discussing this right and how a show in the community that follows our show builds a life of its own that the raiders can't really anticipate so they prepare a lot of material which is perfect for schilling watchman. Because that's exactly how that store was later. I wanted it was I what most people known as a graphic novel but it really was twelve issues in a maxi series. That was released no one one month at a time and with F. issue there would be excerpts from the original night owls memoir. It'd be these newspaper clippings and that's an absolute. Absolute addition is the kind of interstitial. And also the black freighter and kind of extra bonus material that helps tell the world. They're doing that now. This show not only only in this like pita pedia thing pedia and also the podcast off. Doing I've listened to that. I say this is so there's been through four episodes. The fourth is just recently aired. I've seen the first three the third episode. The first two are great. I enjoyed them immensely. I burned through them. The third one is amazing. And it's amazing. So it walks through one of the original watchmen. It's the first episode of the season where Angela a bar. Regina kings kicker is. You're not seeing the world through her eyes and brings in a new character to the show which ends up being revealed to be one of the regional watchmen. It's it's a Laurie Laurie. Laurie well it she. She changes her name. But it's still going to write median silk spectre once daughter. Yes and Jean Smart plays her and she is appropriately age and and she's an FBI agent. Jean Smart has so much fun with this character. And you can imagine what you know about what it's like to be a woman in Hollywood. A woman of a certain age age don't often get roles that are media like this and you watch the actress just make so much delicious. Hey out of the role that the cold the open I think it was a moment there in the bank. where she's going into the bank and like they're they're they're doing a show? I mean it's last week's episode and I don't know if he wanted to spoil it has happened to the first few minutes. She's it's basically a sting to catch. Vigilante yeah and it turns and there's so much surly and she gives so few Fox about anything that the vigilante cares about like the thing. That's interesting about this is. It's all about the impact of let me tell you this. costumed vigilantes mass. I think have says he's interested in he thought. The original watchmen graphic novel about a study of. Why would order your people? Okay only one. Who's superpowers is Dr Manhattan? I would ordinary people put on mass. And there's a monologue in episode. Four guys will see where the thesis this is right out there right. Laurie says her theory. And why people wearing masks so as a former mask wearer homer mass mayor and that first opening scene where you see her in that bank is clearly for me a quoting showing the Dark Knight Opening Bank Heists Yup right we're in except she's the joker MHM Right and daughters median. There's this other. That's really nifty other as beautiful. There's this other aspect of that episode. Which is Dr Manhattan's living on Mars? No one has seen him fair bit of time but because of his commitments. There's apparently phone booths you can go to and you can call Mars and talk to him. Yeah because you don't have to call. He sees tire universally early for Santa letters to stand up but there is Jean smart in one of those phone booths breath and she is telling him she's telling a joke and she screws it up and she starts telling him another joke and then that ends up becoming again light spoilers. So that ends up becoming the anchor curve phone call to Dr Manhattan becomes the Anchor of the episode the framework for the whole episode and it is a framework that feels so allen. More more with the the the the black fater bill black freighter which is such a weird dark thing in that issue right but but it isn't actually like like she doesn't she doesn't mess up the joke? It's all it's all and he's also that's a classic Joe Construct Right Bulwer you fake you call so good. And she's speaking with with Johnson Omnipotence to presumably like he he sees the entire joke at the same time. He knows that there's no joke. She knows that there's no point to tell him the joke and she does it anyway purely for her own edification and because she wants wants to fuck with John and there's this point in the joke I guess at about the seventy percent markup the joke where she says and now the last hero steps up in God. Crack's knuckle sir. Again she is. My wife was walking by while I was watching. The she. Hasn't jumped into watchmen with yet. But she looked at you and Jean smart and I was like yeah and she was like. How's she doing? And I'm like a man. She's really bringing every all the crews. Nothing left on the table. Now and it's so delightful to watch Jeevan consents. That she's having a great time. Despite the lack of folks the character gives in her like Verbal Sparring Aren with Regina King in the episode also stunning and Regina King is amazing in there and they always that way seen since neither back down not at all. Yeah Yeah not even a little bit. Well we haven't talked about Jeremy Irons yet. So here's interesting luxury iron so okay. There's a lot there too. Hard of this was no. No the PODCAST. Often Craig may release the podcast. After the third episode once every three episodes of one of the things they revealed is they filmed all old. Jeremy Irons episodes. I So they didn't film things they had him is availability. There surely captured in Ireland for a set time. They just shot all of that before the scripts or even written for the other episode. How which is? Also very watchmen thing to do. Because they're doing non linearity black black freighter stories but he's out of fun before we continue on with this week's episode. 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Yeah I WANNA talk about the morning show. Would Reese Witherspoon Jennifer Aniston. Well yeah because and Super L.. And Steve Carell but it also billy credit who plays Dr Manhattan and the Watchmen Film. Oh I didn't know he was in that. Watch the not only is in it but in a roster of terrific actors. Mark Suplus Steve Corral Jennifer. Aniston Reese Witherspoon Billy. Kurt up is like he's almost in a different show and it's so so much fun to watch him go. He is ability caught up has played some great villains over the years in this specific role. He is leaning out over his villainy with Glee that is sheer delight to watch. Yeah like the dude. He's amazing reviews for the show or bad they were kind of all over bibles really bad. I will say I think Daza say up front. I think Jennifer Aniston is one of the great physical Comedians of Television Green. She has phenomenal nominal timing and she's playing She's playing a terrific part and reese witherspoon. Also I'm a big fan and her her part is great and meaty. I find the writing quite uneven on the show. So some scenes will be really electric rick and Sparky and fun and weird and then the next scene will be like some bit of boiler plate. Where someone's like did you plans? Yeah I got the plans boss. We'll get them soon. Not at that dialogue exchange numbers in the show. But it feels that funky sometime so the framework is it's a show about a morning show where the Co host of long along. The Matt Lauer character is is by Steve. Carell KRILL has a scandal of some kind of show he sexually harasses a sexual impropriety at the workplace. He sleeps with many people that he works so that worked for him. So like if we think about the list of shows that are the framework of the show within the show we the Larry Sanders and Gary Shandling. We have newsroom. We have studio sixty like thirty rock. Where does this land on the on? Like well from what you've seen is because it's a drama right. Yeah it feels best drama. It feels more akin to like the good wife. Like Dow kind of ensemble the drama of good actors and occasionally that dialogue can be stupid Turgid Martin plus by the way an actor do plus brothers Sir to actors the founders of Mumble core. They've been in many many different things including me a whole bunch of television. You've seen marketplace's terrific in this playing this tired director. The supporting cast is terrific. I like it more than I don't like it. Okay I meant that a bunch of scenes feel weirdly out of place and I can can only imagine what it's like to bring into giants like Aniston and Reese Witherspoon and try and direct them in some. It was the biggest comedy star in the world right. And everyone's great actually in the first episode when you I finally cut to St Pearls Minor spoiler. They're like he's in his house and doing crisis management right because jobs just ended and he yells for forever. Men have used their power to get women and now now I'm getting punished. Wow it's still a delight to the fact that he's so unabashedly shitty he's totally admitting it up front like there's no. Oh I don't want to be that kind of person. He's exactly who he wants to be. I so I'm like I'm always interested when they cast comedians for drama roles. Because because it's usually there's usually it's usually a good purpose and it usually works really well in that vein in the second episode. There's a scene in which so corollas they. They're very slow to bring him to wheel him into the plot. He's just kind of dipping in him a couple of times for episode late in the second episode he meets with a Hollywood director whose career was also derailed by sexual impropriety. Play by Martin. Short Chris and Martin Short not only looks great. But right you to your point. These two world-class comedians playing drama. The the amount of weight in timing and stakes. They're adding to their dialogue is like a masterclass. And there's a turn in the scene and the turn. I'm getting chills. Just thinking about it the turn in the scene that both of them. It's like because they're comedians. They have explored with an art form. That has immediate stakes. People laugh or they don't laugh Depending on how good you served the joke and those steaks I think make. Comedians audience truly great actress because they understand within the narrative arc of a set of lines where the turn is where the punch is where your emotional arcs going to be and watching. The two of them talk is schilling difference like the difference in cadence between a huge audience. Laugh and a huge audience grown right same word same delivery same timing right I mean just like the tone of the voice can turn and like just to be clear reese witherspoon has done some incredible dramatic roles. Pretty little lies buys the thing on. HBO UH-HUH YEP is is spectacular. I haven't watched it but it's it's really really good. My wife Loves Jennifer. was that good girl. What was it the movie? Yeah because it was a long time ago but it was intense and like I thought that was a phenomenal film. There's one thing that I find about Aniston that Is that it. It seems difficult for her to play an unabashedly shitty person and I feel sometimes like that's what this role requires the Harvey losses. Oh yes that is actually your. That's my favorite Jennifer Aniston. She's she's she's incredible in that but she's playing a comedy pretty shitty person. Well she's playing a ludicrously over the top shitty person flipping the campaign. Yeah there's the degree of how much fun she the house in horrible bosses is Super Great. I love that that might be my favorite movie roles Charlie days boss. Yeah which it's so horrifying S. d. from that fell from her. I like she well. She's she's playing Steve Carell in morning show in horrible bosses. Sorry but you get like I said this show is uneven. I totally granted that I find myself I find the episodes go very quickly. I which is an hour barker. Yeah it's an our which is to me a marker that it's really good. It's enjoyable right if it's like. I'm not feeling like anyone's wasting my time. No there's only one more thing I want to say about watchmen move on. Is that when you guys watched. The fourth episode does introduce a new character unseen before. I'm Afr- Spoil her details but the actress who plays her may look familiar but she hasn't a lot of stuff but you appreciate. She plays the woman in the Matt. Damon downsizing movie Oh Rian The weenies woman the Vietnamese woman. Excuse me yes. She's so that that movie is called downsizing downsizing pain film yes and we talked about on the podcast. Right formats. Formats is incredible incredible and that she is the best thing that movie and Matt Damon's Great in it and it took me a little. Bit of watching the watchmen Taylor and she is a completely different character and here put justice saw. There's a film festival I wanted to. Maybe I've talked about this on the with the Kurt Our caller let's fuck with bill. PULLMAN mind film festival suggested by John Hodge Islands really good. This is movies movies that the Studio Marketing Department had no idea how to release. Oh and downsizing is one in which the movie that it was was not the movie they were out of the tunnel sunshine of the spotless. Mind I think so. Free Fire is another into runner. But he's got three days. You see the thing that that was where the studio notes from an early screening blade runner released got second. Try Cutting into the studio would say okay. Yeah that's the rough compromise with the not. The vandals doesn't the have Anjali scratch track. Yeah I've seen it has. Yeah and they're like that was released. The Castro in ninety three I saw in the theater so so so it's like this like the notes are this is this narration is terrible. The the voice over is terrible. Where's evangelist evangelist? Was the only thing that made the first hour tolerable able to. There's not enough fighting then there's too much fighting and it's I'll send you the tour. I'll put it in the nuns. It was good. I'm super psyched. For for the fourth. Episode of watchmen like. I said I'm going to watch it and just a couple of hours when I get home. And then let's not podcasts. Highly recommended daily Lindelof as in from from noble who wrote for Chernobyl. Yeah and Scripts podcast very good watchmen is doing a wonderful job. Look I was complaining last year about TV. TV shows like westworld where I'd finish a whole season and I felt like I watched one hundred twelve hours of ten or twelve hours a television. I felt like I watched four plot Ryan just getting plot but watching. It does not feel like that. The boys did not feel like that. I felt like I got big fat episodes. Every episode of the boy's head on feeling the same thing with watchman's their their forty five minute episodes or something on our nine of them they feel they feel each one feels like a movie almost like the not in. There's like opening enclosure feature of Wotton and super cinematic. It's it's gorgeous. It's crafted amazing. Don Johnson to for seventy something years old seventy seventy four. I hope this is Johnson's travolta moment where he suddenly cast is like the all sorts of the old guy who's lost Robert Forester. Sadly someone's got to take up that man. Yeah exactly you know. By the way I just learned that I'm older than Wolford. Grimly was when He. Oh you passed in the past year and a half ago like he was he was only six years older than you are. Now how right off a wow yeah. We'll Brindley came out of the womb with a mustache dash fifty five year old guys thing. He didn't have the mustache in the thing duty. Yeah why don't WanNa be out here reality or not. We know how come I can't come back. We're going to talk about so many other things. What else are we going to talk about? Where ah we might be at a time? Okay but wants both save those topics. We did have a great suggestion online though and we love recommendation yes because It is getting closer to the holidays. Cisco were full boy. I'm saying for for maybe vacation and we tourism dollars refurbishment. We we get questions asked of us of or the things that do and see when you have about two to three days a you know what I can do a two minute little quick run down a couple of things that are real orchestra. My highlights are in advance. Got A book. Your tickets go to Alcatraz as advertised. It is one of the best half days. You can spend visiting historical audio tour. Do Okay put by pay the money for the audio tour. Because it's narrated by former guards and inmates. They recorded them while they were still alive. Amazing and they tell the stories of oral history. What it was like to be there what it was like to be in the cafeteria what it was like? You know where the scary places where we're not scary. It's really good if you want to see things that the locals even don't often see. I recommend looking for nearby secret staircase. San Francisco is fool with its hills is full of secret staircases all over the city. If you just Google San Francisco scared staircases. You can find the Lion Street steps stairs are great uh-huh and each one is a little bit of an adventure like there's wonderful things you can see usually have great views And then I wanNA give a shout out to my one of my favorite restaurants. He's here in. The mission is a local eatery. That's been there. I think for more than four decades punchy this Salvadorian papooses which is a salvador. In case a deal with meet and other stuff inside as well as cheese you eat it with a Coleslaw and hot sauce and here on tested we eat there probably once a week. In fact I've catered a New Year's Party we've been there a lot and it's wonderful down home. This is what the mission has always felt like to me punch John. Cheetahs used to have a punch cheetahs to upon Cheetahs. Three those to pare back but now they have a new pond. Cheetahs on Valencia street around the corner from their old place. And if if you're visiting San Francisco and you go into the one on sixteenth and it's packed walking around the corner of the other one. It's probably not as packed And they both have the same great food. So those are my quick San Francisco shots but I can build up some more. And let's do that as Kademi. Go to CAL Academy completely daresay. uh-huh absolutely don't stay in Union Square. Don't yeah now don't do you. I saw when last time. We were at Weta workshop. Weta folks when I went to San Francisco and I stayed in. This hotel was on in Polk Street. I walked the whole of Polk Street and it was just awful and I was like you literally walked. I think the worst street. It's it's like the Gina Gina. Gina used to do a walking tour when people would come to town where we'd start at Union Square started the pop. Hal St Bart's say Shannon and then walk up because he walked through union square on the way but walk through Chinatown North North Beach and then go to Alcatraz vary which was still on. Fisherman's warf right and it was like you start at like nine o'clock in the morning. You hit the ferry for one o'clock ferry grab lunch and in a beer somewhere along the way and then the afternoon Alcatraz and come back and go have dinner someplace and it was a Fendt Aztec way to spend the day so really really walkable city get you can get the the. Get Your Clipper Card. So you can ride Bart and the and the and the Muny In the cable cars and streetcars and the whole thing and and yeah. Bring your walking shoes. I think that when we do this episode. Let's do some of our memories of doing those things of the things that we're recommending because I think there's some good stories in there for the locals twin twin peaks. Everyone should go to the topic. I go to peak sexy probably once a month if it's cloudy. Don't go to the top twenty in embrace the fog. I don't mind I don't see anything. I still don't minded up there but you're right you're right you're going to see the city. It is one of the more remarkable news of any city ever except for the view of Cape Town from Table Mountain. I hi and the to field not dissimilar. Although table mountains of bid Moma jess dig. The first time I was in Hawaii I was I was there. It was like. Oh it's a cloudy. It's an overcast day. Let's go to the top of the volcano today and see what it's like up there so we drove three hours up to the side of the volcano and got to the top and I was like. Oh this is why this is bad do this. It's forty degrees in this. Ah Shit we do on vacation. I ran out of gas in a Prius in front of the Dole Plantation. On Gas much you get so many miles L. A. Tank. I just forgot that you had to stop. Fill it around on bananas waiting. You're thinking gearhead. That sounds pretty stupid. Let me tell you my wife saying that to me directly there was in two thousand and three wire article. I'm sure about the people who get such good gas. Mileage and their priests that they forget to gas in it and thus right out of casts and the apprentice press indeed all right on the site this week. What we have that build they alluded to it will be will be revealed? Wants to visit the studio of a pop up book luke designer. Not Video Appeal this week as well as that mean. He randomly designs books in new locations all the time he designs Papa designs pop up. Okay cool. Yeah that's fine engineer. And a bunch of other stuff. The model of me is a model that Kanai put the other and we did some fine painting winging it. And it's a lot of fun Those little lights aren't norm. This doesn't work I it's a speaker. Oh that's what I want. I want to see it. Looks like Rubik's cube middle give is bigger than the others look. It's best not to think about a token. Let it go on. This episode of brand-new made a tech pod. We talked about Wifi. Yeah we all the whole history how my wife is important and like the CAN Utah Heady Lamar Contribution Ours Contributions to Bluetooth Truth. Yeah we talked about. We talked about the Shannon limit which is the theoretical maximum data capacity for a frequency range. Which is really fun? There's math breath you can find it at tech pod dot content dot town. Yeah think could find US always on tested DOT COM. 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Episode 101: San Francisco (or "Don't Call it San Fran")

The Practical Wanderlust Podcast

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Episode 101: San Francisco (or "Don't Call it San Fran")

"Hey Babe what's up. What's the difference between California Mexican food in Texas Mexican food? We are not going to get a divorce in the first episode of Our podcast. Thirty seconds is it that case though is the best part of Mexican food fucking. Do you consider Cuba to be the best. Hi Jeremy where the accident prone travelers behind practical on your less and we're here to dish out. Travel tips tricks. Useful Trivia. Useless Trivia mildly Lee entertaining anecdotes. And everything else you need to void making all of our terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible mistakes and we make a lot of mistakes today. We're going to be talking about one of our favorite cities San Francisco city by the bay. And this is because I mean we we kinda live. Here I've lived here for for like twelve years now. Jesus Christ are eleven years old. Eleven years I've lived here for like eight years but when I say here I actually live in Oakland which is outside citing Francisco. And we're not going to talk about it because although we love it it's not San Francisco we're GonNa be talking about SF. I've actually never lived in San Francisco I have. I lived there for about five five years when I moved here for College I was a bright eyed bushy tailed kid from a small coastal town and I took to the city like like a elephant conceals a water buck wife. I just WanNa read. Your origin story is now it was just a lot of messy nights in college. Basically what it was. You know what I think. I've seen that one I think. Did Amy Schumer starring that. Yeah actually that was my trainwreck. That was my life store. Anyway we're going to be talking about San Francisco. We're going to be giving you some actual information random fun tidbits Jeremy's local opinions about stuff and some stories about one very long story. That's very near and dear to us like spoilers. No it's not spoilers. It's like foreshadowing spoilers. Spoilers all right well. Let's jump into some weird stuff about San Francisco because people come here because it's weird it's the weirdest place. Like San Francisco is the epitome of weirdness one of my favorite favorite things. And you're gonNA actually notice this throughout the episode. We refuse to call it anything other than San Francisco or SF or the city. Those are the three acceptable notable things that you can call San Francisco no Frisco no San Fran like our ears start to bleed a little bit everybody here in San Francisco. We're very polite rate. But if we hear you calling it Frisco while we walk down the street will be very upset. And we'll probably like passive aggressively. tweet something about it. It don't do it. I goes acceptable. -ceptable twice if you're ordering a Frisco Mel from steak 'n shake which they don't even have here or maybe they do. Actually I forget. Or if you're in talking about Frisco Texas now neither of which of light is his inferences correct. So don't do it. The other thing is that we have personified are fog. That's rate what's our Fox name. Karl he has a twitter account. You guys can go follow him. Carl the fog the fog and we really gross thing where like will travel to another city and it'll just like beyond normal foggy day and we'll be like oh who curl you fold is here to home stood on Mo thank thank you. Let me just say that. That's only thing nobody else does that. Everybody does that. Everybody named Leo Garcia. NACHO everybody does that there's also a random herd of Bison I sent in Golden Gate Park one of my favorite weird facto AIDS Golden Gate. Park is also an amazing park that we have in the city. It's bigger than central park is out to flex on on you. But one of my top. Five must do's foreshadowing to use your word and talk about that later but yeah you can find the Bison there somewhere in Golden Gate Park. I've only found on them. Once they got a lot of lander roam around in they. Don't they're real easy to find about thereby chain of lakes drive okay anyway. There's also a lot of micro micro climates each neighborhood in San Francisco has its own personality and its own weather which is like when I say neighborhoods. We're not talking like you drive for five minutes and you get to like a different neighborhood neighborhood. It's like literally across the street like you can stand on one. St and be looking at Chinatown and behind you is little Italy and they can be completely different rant in every way. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah you'll walk you'll get off of translator out of your car and it'll be like super hot and then you'll be like oh I thought San Francisco's cold and you'll walk two you block and all of a sudden you're in a completely different world and you're freezing and this is why everybody tells you to wear layers which like you know we say where layers and that's just you're like. Oh put on a jacket doc it. That's not what we mean. What we mean is like one minute you're going to be ninety degrees and melting and then it's GonNa be six PM and you're going to be standing in the exact same spot and suddenly you're going to be freezing to death and if you try go to the beach you will freeze and it is horrible? I wish we're at the beach right now. It's really hot in here. It is extremely hot in here. Another thing that kind of drives me nuts honestly and I want to categorize crazy when this everyone and everything and San Francisco is like at least an hour behind constantly. Everything is super flaky. And everybody's just just like totally okay with it and it tries me fricken nuts. Let's California's a whole actually. It's especially bad in San Francisco like you're not really considered late until your over over two hours late and that includes parties like we have a habit now we we have a party. We tell all our friends to arrive two hours earlier than we actually think they're gonNA show up. Do you ever have. I've gotten a lot more responsible so can stop that listening now. Our friends are great at this point. Because I think we've cut out all those super flaky. The ones but like okay. Do you remember like when my sister came to visit. And they live on the East Coast and we had dinner reservations which is unusual because in San Francisco. That's usually just not a thing because we like to be really busy and elitist but we had dinner reservations and we were trying to get there at the right time and a series of late events jusque ask kept occurring like the bar was. The muny was late. The trolley was late everything was late and their heads were exploding and we were just like chill. This is fine. We're not and then we showed up and they were like it's chill. It's only six thirty or not even late. Taking the trolley. Nobody takes control. It was a touristy thing. It's nice you know this. The whole episode is literally just as talking about cool things to do visiting San Francisco. Right I know so speaking of things that like people have to do when they come here like some touristy some not what are your our top five things that you would recommend visitors do so okay. My number one thing is something that you won't find online we haven't even written about it. It's called Jericho it's this. It's like super cool spy game by a company called Fox Hound. Basically it's laser tag but the city of San Francisco is like your laser tag like floor level. Well I don't know if that's called you play laser tag you've got like this cool. Like Messenger bag with a gun inside and you've got like a mission and all your friends teams and you have to fight with them to like run to like vim bark. Heroin like steal something from seal or whatever and then like shoot your friends at you know the middle of Union Square and then like duck and roll and like find this guy. That's like wearing a mustache. It's so much fun. It's the most fun I've ever had in San Francisco. It's a laser tag spy walking tour. All right well I guess you could have described it much better than I could better. Yeah they have all these different missions like they have nighttime ones. They had daytime wines. I haven't actually done all of them but I've done a lot. We did one like Bride Party versus Groom Party and I kicked U. S.. Okay let me just say what happened. Lee is really clumsy. Wow and we were in. We were in north beach which is literally literally little Italy and it's super hilly and we were running around these hills duck and through strip clubs. Because that's what little Italy's known for and we got an shootout in in front of a strip club and then leaves around the corner and she's just screaming and like fake crying out fake cry and cussing feelings as she was like. I rolled my ankle angel. And you guys just kept playing and we were like Oh shit. Let's put a hold on. This really quickly is actually hurt. And I didn't want it to be like super hurt for the wedding and friends friends. My friends who are all like my friends are all really good at everything. Like I've got one best friend WHO's a marathon runner one best friend who's like a circus performer. And they're just like doing flips and shit off of buildings just like running around. Yeah they had to get across town in like ten minutes before the time ran out and then my brother-in-law and I are like tending the Lia and it turns out that she was like spinning a yarn. The whole time. That's okay. I was spinning a yarn. I actually did roll angle. It actually did hurt. I had a feeling I may have played it up for the sake of drama but it was valid. I didn't lie to you or was number two number two actually. This is something that we stuck into our wedding in gas like little gift baskets. It's our Self Guided San Francisco Walking tour so Jeremy came up with this whole route. Where you start at the embark aero you go all the way past the seals pasture thirty nine all the way up to geared Elliot Square? You go through quite tower through all that area up there. It's absolutely beautiful. And then you take back down because I think it's really fine. And we actually had the entire San Francisco walking tour on our blog. If you google like anything's Self Guided San Francisco walking toward anything like that. You'll find a link to it in this podcast description. But it's really fun. It's hey it's like six miles. It takes like two and a half hours. And it's a great way to see San Francisco though free on your own two feet and you get to meet some seals which is the best thing not even halfway through episode one and we've already got our first plug you all right to be there. We also mentioned seals like four times so seals are wedding. There's GonNa be more plugs though because we have a lot of content about San Francisco. It's going okay my nightlife at the CAL Academy of Sciences. So we have this Awesome Science Museum in Golden Gate Park so you have to like navigate past like her device in verse but they do this thing called nightlife every Thursday night. And it's like the whole Science Museum turns into like doc and kind of like a nightclub like it's twenty one and up every week has a theme and it's all like themed around some cool Scienc- thing the food is themed drinks are themed. There's all these different exhibits on all different floors and you get to access the entire museum and also do this cool nightclub thing For like half the price of a regular admission and you don't have to deal with kids which kids but not when I'm drunk at a nightclub that also science museum you know they're also all over L. Academy during the day so it's nice when the kids aren't there. It's really fine so if you're here on a Thursday night definitely check out my next thing this goes with your your like amy. Schumer messy beam karaoke at butter. So butter is a white white trash themed bar which we love. And I'm allowed to say away trash because I'm here in Kentucky in you're allowed to say white trash because I was born Bakersville. Yes I was going to say it so basically really every Sunday night. Butter does Kariuki. So you can get like you're white trash themed drinks which talk about later and you're white trash themed food think like you know deep fried twinkies and like Ravioli out of a can and sing Karaoke and like you might be picturing like some down home you know drunk Mascaro key but this is like this is like we're series Carrio years like come to play this highbrow hot Mascara. There's actually like a competitive like Karaoke teams Francisco this up. It's one guy I. It has a competitive shirt I don. I can't vouch for this that it's an actual league. But he does. We did see a shirt one time. So you like nine and basically you need one song and you can having to have practiced your song. Because you're only going to get the thing. The song and I know that sounds less fun. But it's way more fun because you feel like a rockstar. And we'd love Karaoke butter so much that we actually hire the Karaoke Dj EJ to do our wedding reception. 'cause we had karaoke wedding reception and it was awesome. Yeah he's also got like really cool selection of of songs that you you've definitely heard these songs things whether they were in like video games or like obscure references deep you goes. He's got a deep bench. Yeah but there's also a caveat if you're going to sing Bohemian Immune rhapsody or don't stop believe in you have to pay five dollars. Yeah the Katie days name is Roger Niner. We love him he also does the same. Where like if you're sucking on your song? He will jump. I've been an sing with you. And he he has the voice of an angel. It's not just if you're sucking on it if he's also into the Song Oh yeah and they'll harmonize with you. You don't have a partner. He'll be your duet partner. It's it's actually so fun and you'll probably see us there if you go because we go a lot. I usually do under pressure with him. That's pretty mercury. Yeah I usually do Britney spears. It's still a show. I also do Johnny Cash. It's easy go to. We should probably move to the next auto okay so my next one is exploring golden gate park which talked about. We talked about Cal Academy we talked about the Bison. It's huge Golden Gate Park. We already said it's bigger than Central Park. It's it stretches all the way from Like the Haight Ashbury neighborhood which you've probably heard of because hippies to the ocean is enormous and you could just spend all day walking through it biking through it like you'll probably come come across lake some cool hippies that have been there since the sixties you'll probably come across like random other museums the museum there which is really awesome and it's just gorgeous. There's a beautiful Japanese garden in the middle of their and you just feel like you stepped into Japan. There's just so much to do in there. You could spend days just getting lost in there and then while you're on that side of the city my other one that I really love in that area is called the batteries to bluffs trail so this is one of my favorite places to view the Golden Gate Bridge. Because you've always he's got to look at it right like you can't come to San Francisco and not take a bunch of bridge southeast but if you go to like the touristy bridge spot there's just a bunch of tourists and a parking lot and it's just like not the best so head up the road a little bit. And you'RE GONNA go into the presidio which is like this beautiful national not national. It's a state park but anyway it's just like park area around the Golden Gate Bridge and and there's this trail that runs from these old historic batteries. All the way down to the ocean and at the bottom of the ocean when you get to the end of the trail is a nude beach which is just a fun little San Francisco experience. You know you can't really you can't say you've been a San Francisco if you didn't see some deck it's not directly at the bottom of the stairs. You gotta you gotTa wonder around the bottom bottom of the stairs and five feet. I believe this is also where burning man was started right. Yeah Yeah so But that's definitely the best place to see the Golden Gate Bridge and it's just a beautiful. It's like one mile trail and it's just it's lovely highly. Recommend what are your favorite. Must Do's so mine are a few minor pretty seasonal the first one which okay. I'm way too old to party anymore. I got that all out in the twenty s but I will say that one of the best parties by far is Beta breakers which happens in the spring and it's a marathon that starts at the bay so on the eastern side of the city and it goes goes down market street and down Hayes all the way over to the ocean on the other side and just making this sound exhausting. It's a marathon but that's not at all it matters. No that's like that's like like what it is on the surface but really what it is is everybody follows the marathon runners and just parties through the city. Everyone gets in crazy costumes costumes and everybody tries to hide alcohol because like officially you can't have alcohol but everyone is drunk and UC super interesting costumes. And it's all like these group costumes. Our favorite one was a group dressed as the Jurassic Park ride. They even had a tyrannosaurus rags and he would like come pop up and they would all be like Has a little yellow strap. said they would like get into order. It was super cute. I just love how you're doing. Like rollercoaster moves right now which nobody nobody can see. Because it's a podcast. While I was doing rollercoaster moves anyway. It's a huge part of. There's so many like house parties that you pass along the route to. It's just so much fun. My first week week that I was in San Francisco was Beta breakers and I live on the route and my roommates just woke me up with a pin gwyn costume a shot and a PBR. And he was like it's it's Beta breakers will explain later. Don't let anyone use our bathroom which you did not follow. No I did follow it but the year before they didn't they let one person in the bathroom and then they got finished getting ready and they walked out and there was like a line of twenty people in the living room. Those informative dead. Yeah but it's Super Fun Even if you're not a big drinker last time we were there we were sober and we still had a lot of fun. You do have to be comfortable with naked people because like we said it is legal here in nudity is just part of Beta breakers and and you just you gotta learn to live with that. You're in San Francisco. We usually start like a bet that is boobs buts or Dick's game which twins we're GonNa see the most of and we keep a running tally which I've realized that's always win. It covers their but but they're like oh but frying fall hanging out now but they're always out it's always win running out scalise. That's always my other must do. My other recommendation is a picnic and Dolores Park fellow. I'm hoping we cut that out now. We're not cutting it out. Dolores Park is a park between the mission and the Castro throw. It is one of the most beautiful views and it's always got the best weather and it's real easy to spot because everyone is going. They're not even. I'm just on a weekend weekdays two. It's always filled with people drinking becoming like nobody in San Francisco has job. Apparently everyone brings their dogs. Everyone ruined brings like some elaborate game. I remember seeing giant beer pong where they had like the rubbermaid trash cans instead of Red Solo Cup. That's amazing and they use a beach ball. I I may actually be able to do that. I'm pretty good at that. There's also a Guy Michael also known as the room coconut guy. He's got long dreads and he just walks around with bag of Michetti and a cooler and he'll just pull a coconut out and offer you like a coconut and then he'll hack it up and then pour rum and and if you want. There's the girl with the Swiss Miss Outfit with edibles. Yeah she's got edibles of all kinds like and they're all serial based so it's like I really like fruit. I really like APPLEJACK applejack so I wanted to have an apple. Jacks edible and no like weed is legal in California but this has been going on since longtime ago way before it was actually legal legal. But they're still they're like they don't care anytime somebody and Dolores Park walks up and like offers you something just you know by it. It's probably fine but also assume it's got weeded. There's even an app you can find your friends in Dolores. Park dislike most San Francisco APP that I've ever heard of this is called Dullsville another thing that I always say to do and again this is only half the year but you have to go to a giants game Oracle Park is beautiful eighteen. At and T.. Sorry I know it used to be used to be packed bill. No that's too old. Yeah so it's one of the most actually is the most beautiful park in the country. Ballpark I mean. Is that just like you saying that or no. That was the Major League Baseball Association. Okay they have a ton of great food. Because because it's San Francisco. We have the best food. Don't add me but got really good. Food are like garlic. Fries are seem so good. Our team used to be good. Wow how I don't think a lot to be fan if you say that no years. That hasn't been even years have been the case since two thousand fourteen go is all right. I I live in Oakland all right. There's also really good drink. Drink options Gear Deli has like salted caramel hot chocolate thousand. That was what I was GONNA say him. Go see a game but it does get freezing if it's a night game or blazing hot if it's a day game. Yeah because there's a lot of sun exposure and you also get really like moist like if you're still at the park nine pm. No it's true like moist because the fog rolls in the fog rolls in and you you just realize you're just soaking wet. Even though it's not raining in theory and then Siegel start like circling overhead. And you just Kinda round like ten. PM You just. I just feel like you're in like the birds you got out of there. If you've ever been no baseball game you know that around the seven and seventh innings. Stretch your thinking. Oh they're up by a few points. The game might might turn. But you also know that there's very few dramatic endings to baseball games. So I will say that if you get to that point and you realize the game's GonNa go one way. Just go just go. It's impossible supposed to get on the first train home. You're going to be there. You'RE GONNA be out until midnight. My fourth thing is to see a show now that a few things so it can mean a concert a play it could mean drag show There's tons of news where this is possible. There's a lot more independent places like Bottom of the hill is a smaller caller venue. But it's really famous because a lot of now famous people have played there. The mission has a ton of different venues. Protrero Hill has a lot. The tenderloin has a lot so you can just find like either a small or a large one and most days of the week. There's either GonNa be a concert a drag show or play so the orpheum and The Act Theater have off Broadway shows so we just saw Hamilton there all right. We're not going to talk about that. I didn't hate it I just anyway. We're GONNA just things a lot for putting me on blast on our podcast. Our favorite drag show is coming up next month. We've been seeing it for the last few years. It's it's a buffy. The vampire slayer drags really take a whole season of buffy and they make it into the most amazing epic drag show like there's like special effects initial. Yeah it's ridiculously good like the production quality is like I was blown away my last thing and again. This is seasonal. Because it's usually just hot weather and you have a ton of options here but go to a festival there are music festivals such as hardly strictly Bluegrass side land outside lands exactly but there's also tons of like street fairs like the how Weird Festival kicks off the festival season in April. The Pride Festival is huge. which obviously there's the FOLSOM street festival? which if you're in the city in September Selassie Sunday September so fulsome is the leather festival? We're done kink. Not just like you know cowboys cowboys cowboys. But we're talking about like kink leather. which is awesome? If you're into that is a little jarring if you're just here with your your family and you didn't have that discussion beforehand. Maybe So you just you know just know if you're coming in to check if you're coming during FOLSOM street fair. It's a lot of fun if you are willing to be in that space. And not be judgmental in that space and understand boundaries and consent and all that kind of thing which is very. Ah Very much enforced to their but butter which is right next to folsom. We talked about Carioca butter after folsom street. Fair is a blast. It is next next level wild because fulsome starts like before noon and Karaoke doesn't start until nine thirty pm so yeah people have been getting real messy bring ringer course. Oh yeah so. I mentioned one of the one of the best things that San Francisco has is our food. That's my like eighth. Best thing to do in San Francisco is just like eat just just like eat everything we have the best food here. What would you say is like one of the tops? Okay so you can't come to San Francisco and not have clam chowder bowl like I know it's Cliche but it's Cliche for a reason because it's delicious richest and super filling cozy and it's always like cold and foggy rate so I talked about our Lake Self guided walking tour. That's one of the things along the tour because you pass right by booting bakery like they had like a factory where they make sourdot and they create these little sour dough bread bowls and also like adorable sourdot animals in the shape of turtles which is my favorite and then they put like clam chowder and and it's really good and honestly like I want to tell you it's like the best clam chowder in the world. The bread is pretty good But it's just like one of those classic San Francisco Cisco Things and it is really cozy and it hits the spot every time I grew up and coastal town and so I grew up eating clam chowder in a red bull and I will say that I I still am not tired of San Francisco's Clam Chowder Bible. Yeah it's good for a reason. I have a place in my heart. Very near and dear for Burritos Rita's San Francisco whole heart. I feel your heart is actually just Brito shaped it's the doctor says I need less really unhealthy. So Oh San Francisco really loves their Britos so much in fact that that they will fight you if you like the wrong burrito and talking about yourself. I'll fight you if you say you liked the wrong burrito and now you're you're right it's the San Francisco Bay. There was a national competition for the best Burrito in the country and San Francisco held the two of the four finalists spots. Now there are two that are Mijo. Choose the first one is Tucker Cancun but they have a couple of locations the one in nineteen th and mission is the best one. I can't believe you have a specific location to you. Not so ridiculous. How long have you lived here? I live in Oakland The other one that I I really like is l.. Far Alito on twenty four th in mission but the actual winner of the competition was locked up career all three of them good options. But I do love Doc Kuhn the most okay. You're not going to back. That claim up. We're GONNA have a bunch of angry people on. You're just gonNA leave that there. No those people are going to walk down mission street and have three Burritos and then and then tweet at us saying that I was right. The first one was the best. I would like pictures to go with that when you do that at practical wander. Thank you I'm going to say if you WanNa Burger in San Francisco. Your best bet is super duper. It's not something that we're like super known for but super-duper is definitely other than in and out like a a classic Burger Place to go in San Francisco. I would also had oysters to the list. Oysters or like a local thing. There's a whole bunch of local oyster farms up near point race and we get like really good. Ed like usually about one dollars each oysters and you can get those Swan Depot. They are delicious. Just I know they're kind of like squishy or whatever but like just shoot them they're actually really good. One of my favorite replaces has actually gone through a lot of changes. And it's one of the more boozy places in San Francisco it used to be called Martine and then the restaurant closed and kept open their bakery but now the restaurants back and it's called Tarquin manufactory and we are a second date at Barton special place in our hearts. Yeah that's a really really special place for us because he is our second date and I- scrimped and saved for that date years. I imagine you boy was broke. It was sweet though. He was like sweating when we sat down. He looked at the menu. And I could tell so. I think we like ordered like one. APPETIZER to share. And just like savored it for a while but it was really cute and you paid which was nice it was one of. Are Those all take the salad and a water situation. Yeah and I think we shared the salad and the water. California was in a drought at the time. Another one is you gotta get get dumplings like San Francisco has a really rich history with Asian culture and we have incredible Asian food one of the best places to get soup. Dumplings MS dumpling kitchen which is like Over on the western side of San Francisco around Golden Gate Park. You'll be getting into the foggier areas so bring layers But the soup you've dumplings or like the easiest pillow little fluff balls of soup and they are so good. The next place that I would recommend is called foreign cinema and it is always on like the top OP. Restaurants Have San Francisco. It's been on there for years. It's been one of the best restaurants in San Francisco for a minute. Yes so you sit outside. There's like a little awning and when you eat while there's like a giant projector playing a foreign film and Oh hence the name hence the name we went there once on a SCAVENGER hunt date which we'll talk about later future episode and awesome. Yeah but we were way too should house to enjoy that meal. I remember I remember being being like. This is the best steak I've ever had and I think I might have through it up later and felt really bad about it. It was so good and then the other really good like fancied fancier despite which is still surprisingly affordable if you wanna like ball out but like not like French laundry ball out which was like four hundred dollars a meal? This is more like the thirty dollars. Range is Noga and it's an awesome restaurant. It's definitely fruity and boozy. But like affordable and you can if you sit in the second level you can watch them in the kitchen which is really fine. It's like dinner and a show. Yeah we did that a couple of times except one time. There was a fire in the kitchen. Probably our faults we bring bad luck everywhere we ago we do. That's a theme throughout this podcast. Spoilers spoilers What about drinks like now thirsty? What are your favorite drinks in San Francisco? One of my favorite places to get aid. Drink is ritual coffee but like a coffee drink drink. He takes a coffee drink. The only one that thinks thinks that's funny okay. Whatever they're not all going to land I mean if you WanNa if you WANNA merge coffee handle Whiskey Whiskey drink? There's two cafe yeah. I Love Win Investor Cafe. They were the first restaurant or bar. I guess to introduce Irish coffee in. They say all all of North America but definitely San Francisco and it's like they do the whole thing like the age it and it's really freaking good if you go to like the very back of the restaurant. There's this little room that nobody they ever really knows about with this window. That looks out on the water. Like out on over gearless square. And it's really really pretty. Yeah you can also get your coffee. You can get with whiskey or Cognac in yards or brandy sorta choose what alcohol you want. I also will say you glass right over another opportunity for a completely shameless self-promotion self-promotion which is that. If you Google the best shops in San Francisco you will find our blog on it. We have a guide it was written by a Barista in San Francisco. Shout out to Tom. Yeah Jeremy Actually when we met that was a Barista in San Francisco which is probably why remarried live in that highlife. That's like trophy has been goals for me. He doesn't make me coffee every single morning and brings it to me in bed so so sometimes it's instant much like shame you had when you said that if it's like the sweetest thing they don't let me into coffeeshops good instant though you know ritual has five dollars per packet instant coffee now. Do that's crazy to me. So so since we're facing in twos. My two favorite bars are actually owned by the same company and those are Bourbon and branch and tradition and all of this company's bars are like speak easy themed but sort of a like a different varying levels. Throw prohibition themed let's say and and Bourbon and branch is super speakeasy. You need to you. Need a code word to get inside and the code word decides which room you get into so you can go to the normal all like booths or going to tell you the password or you can or you can go into the library area which is sort of standing room only or you can go into the secret. Detective -tective agency which is where we had that like fancy cocktail class that we took. I didn't even know there was a secret to attack agency inside the bar but it turns out if you dig a how class there you get to go in. The whole bar is hidden so you just walk passing. It doesn't look like anything but then if you take a class here in the detective agency and now I can't not see the detective agency. Yeah now we know. Our eyes have been opened but in tradition is a little bit more like a regular bar. There's no password it's still looks prohibition ask but they do their own casket. So they'll one of my favorites. Is They have a twelve year. Bow More Scotch. That's aged in Pinot noir asked sounded so do she's saying that like I love you but like you did is delicious if we if you just like beer and your life is rolling your eyes listening to us talk about fancy drinks. My favorite favorite place to go for beer is called Golden Gate taproom. They have like. I don't know hundreds of different beers and like all these games and they have like really ridiculous shit like I. I am a beer snob. And I like only enjoy Belgian beer because Belgian ruined us which is a future episode but they have some really good Belgian imports. It's and it's a good time plus Ski Bowl. I mean how can you lose it Skibo. Another good one for leg. More casual night is butter so we talked about butter already. It's real down home. It's real trashy. And they have like the best drinks and they they pour him strong My favorite is called Latchkey T. It's it's long island except for it's made with strawberry soda instead of Coke it's delicious and then you like you like. The Junkyard. Dog Ran the Junkyard Dog. It's Vanilla Stoli Vodka and and root beer. But it's like the good root beer that Thomas Keller whatever it's called And then also like the Cherry bomb. It's Black Cherry. Revolved Co was squirt and it tastes as messy as it sounds. Butter is a is a hot mess. They also do Jello shots and if you order Jello shot they just bring them around for everybody. Which I love you can never knock butter? It's the best sometimes. It's like too much that's just because we're old. Honey that's true I also have to shout out to some tiki rooms lake. Okay so first of all Oakland invented the tiki room. Let's just say it. That was us but San Francisco has some really good good one. So they've got the Tonga Room which is in the FAIRMONT. And we're GONNA talk about the Fairmont more in a minute but it's super cool. They had like a pool in the middle of the room. There's like like a thunderstorm. Every few minutes always live music playing. It's it's a really good time. And then they have smugglers cove so smugglers cove is a cute a little bar in San Francisco. It's kind of tucked away. You have to like find it but they have over seven hundred different types of rum and their menu is organized by like history of Rom. uh-huh so it's like it's like educational like learn things like the history of Jamaican rum in the history of Dominican Rahman like all of the bartenders are like encyclopedias of Ron. And then also you're getting drunk from like a giant bowl of flaming delicious rum drink. It's a great time. It's also a really cool ambience. Because when you walk in you look looks like you're in a pirate ship like there's three bars in the top one. Looks like you have to climb to a crow's nest. Yeah it's really fun so after you get like really drunk and and you had dinner. What are your favorite like treats like? Where would you go get like a little dessert? So I'm a big connoisseur of ice cream. You look so proud of yourself as you said that there's just like a glow about you right now. There's a lot of really good ice cream spots in San Francisco but one that I think is above all is called Humphry. Slocombe can't really go wrong with any of the flavors with Humphrey Slocombe. I prefer secret breakfast. which has like Bourbon Carmel? And cereal Israel on it. Yeah it's it's not my favorite but I like everything else that Humphry slocum and there's one in the ferry building so when you're starting out on your self guided walking tour of San Francisco you can go there. I just put it out there. They had a ended episode with per Shuto Ice Cream on like good eats or something. Yeah Slocombe something famous. We probably have looked that up. speaking of things that are in the ferry building Danny Lyon chocolate. I loved any land chocolate. It's like fancy boozy lake single origin. Chocolate They do bean to bar. And they're like original location is in the mission you can go there and take like tasting sauces In my favorite thing is that they have a bunch of free samples which I absolutely abuse But they're really really good really chocolate. Well you know what we gave them free Promo so now. Donna can pay the rent with exposure. You welcome to any line. I'll send you an invoice breath. One of the stops that I always go to on messy nights especially messy nights in the Castro is hot cookie which is a cookie shop on sixteenth in market. That is famous for their dick shaped cookies. There's also female torsos. Yeah no it's it's like an equal opportunity dirty cookie place but it's not the high. Cookie is like the best cookie of your life. But it's just like a really good time I disagree with you. I think their regular cookies are really good. But you just don't like macaroni and the Knicks are all macaroni. That's true that's true but I always think about like so one time. We were standing in line hockey after a really fun night out in the Castro may have been to see a drag show. It was the I was buffy last year And we're like standing in line nine and this guy who's clearly from Outta town is like looking at this long line of people outside of this tiny little window and he's just looking back and forth. He goes up to look at the cookies. He comes back and you just like starts like shouting and confusion. And he's like is it just because they're shaped like penis in everybody in. That line was just like yes. Yeah that's why that's the whole thank and it's true that's the whole thing. That's enough the really good they also sell merch and that much is just tiny underwear. How many times have we talked about penises and this episode like more more than seals at this point? I think possibly even more than Self Promo truly are winning. The Dick's are winning this time. Okay one last. One is a coconut gun in Chinatown. And I can't tell you a specific place 'cause I always forget and I can never find them but there's like these little one dollar coconut binds in a random in a bakery in Chinatown. Probably all of them and they are delicious. Just really good. Yeah you really can't go wrong with. Chinese bakery treats orders anywhere in Chinatown and have the Fortune Cookie factory there which is really fun to like. Get little broken ones. Do they sell like a giant bag of broken ones for super cheap. I WANNA see. We invented the Fortune Cookie. I think that's true. One of our listeners should let us know we. Just I really just make just make up a giant giant ball statement which actually that leads me to another point though like we invented a lot of shit and we've got like quite a history. Why do you think San Francisco is like such a big deal and like we are a big deal? Let's it's just be honest about it. We're big deal. Why are we such deal? I think San Francisco just brings out a few troops. It's always dreamers and and people on the fringes of society. So I think of that when I think of like the gold rush we came out here because there is inter. There's enterprising zing spirits but there are also already sort of on the fringe. They were already sort of weird. They're like frontiers people and then when we get to like the nineteen hundreds on your skipping over the whole part where like. They showed up with like their enterprising spirits and just pushed out like all of the first Americans who were already living here. Let's just talk about got it. That happened that sucked it absolutely sucked which also I mean. It's it's home to a lot of people who do push out people and without very little little care for somebody else's experienced also the origin. I found out this weekend. That's the origin of how Chinese immigration came to San Francisco that they were actually part of of the The gold rush they came along with the enterpreneurs Some of them were business people. Some of them were helping with business. People's various needs like vegetable growing. I think was one of their major jobs anyway. I literally just learned this all this weekend because we were in Nevada city which is a cute little gold rush town which we won't talk about now But we have this really fascinating history and that was like kind of the beginning of San Francisco as we know it today and I think you still see you. I still see pieces of that in a different form today. I mean anybody who's lived in San Francisco their whole lives or even a few years. You know the big thing that people always say is that you know transportation is changing it and I think that's part of what San Francisco is. Everybody has their San Francisco. There was Eureka San Francisco and turned the century San Francisco and then there was like summer of Love San Francisco and then there was Silicon Valley San Francisco and the constant in. All of those. San Francisco's is that it's is constantly changing. It's constantly whatever's the next big thing and the next like big idea in American culture for good or for bad. It makes huge changes. Well I mean from from some people. It's always for bad for some it's for good. I mean if you go to San Francisco now. We have a really big problem with homelessness the largest population density of homeless per capita. And it's a couple of factors the main ones being that historically homeless were okay here and so cities would just cities like Las Vegas specifically an La. They put their homes on a bus and say go to San Francisco. They have way more resources than we do. And add to that the tech boom right right now is closing up homes and shops to make room for high rises and office spaces and it's putting more families out on out on the street or pushing them out of their neighborhood that they've been in for generations and then adds that that are former air are late mayor. Ed Lee was really problematic and his solutions about homelessness. Yeah I also want to go back just circle back to your point about other cities sending us. They're homeless because they did used to. We used to be able to accommodate for that right like we used to have plenty of space but something you'll notice when you're visiting San Francisco is that quite a lot of our homeless are also experiencing being mental health crises. We have a lot of unmedicated like especially UNMEDICATED. schizophrenics in San Francisco so you'll notice just walking on the streets you'll see somebody like talking to themselves screaming to themselves And it's it's very clear that that's a person who's experiencing homelessness and there's like reasons as for that not only were people released from healthcare institutions. I'm institutions years and years ago and have never been able to get help ever since but when you're talking about like illegal shipping of homeless people up to San Francisco. Most of them were mentally. Ill people who didn't have any kind of resources didn't have have healthcare. Didn't have family to pay for them. They were the people that need the most help. And it's just incredibly cruel that some cities were shown to be to be shipping. People that need mental help To San Francisco so it's really something to keep in. Mind that when you are seeing those people that are having mental health crises. They're more danger to themselves than they are to you. They're they're not out to hurt you. They're not criminals. They're on the streets because they need medication that they can't access and homelessness has been shown to exacerbate mental illnesses says so it's actually very triggering very harmful for them to be homeless to be unstable and another issue that you'll notice while you're visiting San Francisco There's a lot of like bad smells Mel's There's a lot of human waste. It's not pretty I don't want to gloss over it. The reason why is because there's not enough public restrooms in San Francisco and so for for the our homeless neighbors who live here. They don't have a safe place to be. They don't have a safe place to use the restroom and it's it's really. It's it's inhumane honestly and so I really would encourage you while you're visiting have compassion and empathy. Because those are those are people right. There are neighbors San Francisco residents and they don't. We don't have the resources to be able to to help them. In the way that need to be helped and so they are experiencing something much more unpleasant than you are when you have to hold your breath or walk by and be a little bit bothered by them screaming. They are really having they have it a lot worse than you sell. Please show some compassion and empathy for them and you might be thinking. Well if I'm visiting how am my contributing to like the bad side of this. Am I contributing to gentrification by being here. 'cause I'm staying at like an AIRBNB. or which if you're saying in an airbnb maybe maybe depends on where we actually do. Have a guide on where to stay in San Francisco which really does dive into the gentrification issue. We've got a lot of recommendations on like different neighborhoods to stand and different kinds of accommodations that we recommend staying in so that you won't be directly contributing to gentrification but tourism as a whole and this I mean I could go on about this for hours but tourism can really benefit a city and provide creates. Jobs provides a lot of economy. So don't feel like you shouldn't come here. Because we're experiencing extreme extreme gentrification but do so mentally and make sure to educate yourselves about some of the issues that you'll experience while you're here it's a great city to visit. It's a beautiful city. It's a vibrant city. It's a romantic city. Just educate yourself and make sure that you are traveling as responsibly. Yeah which is a weird pivot but she said romantic and I kind of want to talk about our most romantic story in San Francisco is a weird visit so weird pivot. Let's do I don't no how to I don't know how to there's no graceful. There's no graceful way to end that conversation that we just had my favorite San Francisco story is about the time. Well I. It's about when our first dates so we're a few months into dating and we go to this fancy Sushi date in San Francisco and on that date Leah He's got a weird sense of humor and they were what were they. Were getting the tables set up for like the breakfast service or whatever and they had these tiny little jars of jam and mustard. They were really cute. They're Super Q. They were like the size of a thimble. They were really tiny. I don't even know how you were supposed to get all of the jam out of there but Leah thought it'd be funny if we would just steal them so she was like what is huges. Go Up in St Louis Jar of me. Is that when you're laughing and trying to talk. I don't know if I was laughing. I might have just been like all right guy that we've been on three days. Here's what we're going to jail. He was more than three. We're GONNA steal all these jars so anyway I don't want to be a wet blanket. I'll save that for after we're married and I'm like fine. Let's do these jars so one of us like distracts the waitress. We have a whole song and dance and we do like a weird little creep around the table and just swoop if one of the jars. Yeah it was pretty smooth honestly and that was the point in which we descended into a night of pure criminal exploitation. We became mm-hmm like extreme criminals. Guys this is. This is the story about the time we were criminals. Yeah we decided that we were going to steal every every useless thing that we could find everything that like. Nobody would care. Somebody stole it. We were GONNA steal. We rode the elevator down from the restaurant. There was on the third floor and those little floor marking signs of the end of the elevators. One of them was the glue was coming off and so I took it. We stole it. We stole that. It was number three. I should have it in our apartment. Didn't give a fuck. We superstars how that's how intense I am. We were bad. We were so bad we took. It was so dumb stuff. It was like men's when we didn't talk to the person who is handing out the or like a toothpick or I think I grabbed a piece of potpourri counter. We had like this little collection and then I decided to take it up a notch and I was like all right. It's really cool that we're stealing stuff but let's go sneak into stuff. I want to trespass because we were dressed up like really fancy like you're wearing like your fanciest suit formation and the cost twenty dollars and I was wearing like a thrift store address and I was like we're fancy. Now let's go sneak stuff like we belong there so we went to this hotel that we won't say which it is but it has a famous elevator. We're not going to tell you which one it is because we are flying full on going to tell you a bunch of secrets about it that you should not do so. It's got famous elevator which we won't tell you about what we can tell you is that you can take that elevator up to a very cool tower with very cool view Except for you have to have a room key to take the elevator. We snuck behind these fancy old people who clearly we're we're going up to the tower like acted like we also were going up to the tower press the button and I was like. Oh yeah same floor Harambe I. I was like remember Matt Profits Mirror so we went up there and we went through an emergency exit door and it was just started like skulking around the floor like poking stuff and like stealing seeing what we could steal Steal Moist towelettes car O. We did steal a moist. Towel Ed Yeah and yeah so then we've found like this door and we just we were like. Let's open this door because we were being hardened criminals at this point. Let's open the store and Trespass Amore and it was like this really cool like little like fire escape way up in like this. Like top floor of this tower. That looked out over the twinkling lights of San Francisco and it was so romantic. This story is not going to get sexy. There is no knows ex happened but I will say that one of the things people do in this famous elevator. That we won't tell you anything about is they hit the emergency Uh Stop Button and the bang. which we didn't do we do not do that? We are definitely not that cool so we walked the Fairmont and we start we were started wandering around L. I. O.. More stuff. I WANNA take this like I want to apologize to the Fairmont here. We love the FAIRMONT. We have a lot of love for this specific San Francisco. Fairmont hotel is not bill but we definitely bent some rules during our visit to the Fairmont. We definitely may have stolen some blocks of soap. I think link and cements. They had some cute little pill laments and we weren't staying there and we took some this was. This was the only remotely big deal steel that we got actually. Yeah we that the I've pulled a piece off of the off of Chandelier in a conference room. I guarded the door. I guarded the door Jeremy Stolen. He's the chandelier. Look Fairmont hotel. If you want your piece of chandelier shaped like a pinecone back we still have it somewhere in our apartment you can have it back but yes we deal it. We are horrible people so after our thefts were done and we made off with the booty we had like a whole. Oh collection of like random shit. Do we went down to terrorist room and there was an Indian wedding going on and we were just like let's crash this wedding and then and we realized like we shouldn't crash a wedding. That's not okay but it was really fun for the five minutes that we were there before we realized that we were being the rudest people everything smelled so good I just wanted to plow through their buffet and it was like everybody was dancing in lake. It was so much fun we did not plow through their buffet. That was like that was the line. We were like all right. No no further so we went onto the rooftop. It's got this rooftop terrace that looks over the city. Got these big palm trees with lates. It's super for romantic. It was so romantic. We're like gazing out at the twinkling lights of San Francisco while the fog rolled in and this was like our third date. There's an our third day. Why do you keep saying that? I don't know third month of data it was it was early. We went to the edge of the terrorists and it was super romantic. We at this point. I hadn't said I love you now. But we're like gazing the which others is and I was like he's going to do it. This is the perfect time to say. I love you said so. Do you want to go downstairs to the room for a nightcap and it was the most disappointing thing ever although the room was great and I love the room but I did not say I love you there. I should have. We'll get into the actual story of when I said that at a different episode so a few months go by six months it was real early and and I have this grand scheme that I'm GonNa ask Mary me. He had no idea. Are you kidding me. I knew within like I knew the next day after the Fairmont I was like that's where he's that's what he's he's GonNa do and you're GonNa do it on our anniversary. She was clueless So I- reenacted a bunch of dates that we had had in our first year we had a picnic The ferry building we love picnic. It was Christmas time and so there was ice skating in Union Square. Romantic time in the air. Yeah I love Union Square in Christmastime Times. The only time I liked union square but we went to union square to to go ice skating and took one look at people ice skating and was like nope I have like fragile knees your superclubs really clumsy and we snuck back up to that elevator. Joe Named we went back in the elevator. Win the -mergency exit stovepipe standby whatever stovepipes. Frosty the snowman. Whatever we trespassed again it was a good time and then we had dinner bar team which is now targeting manufacturer and then went back to the family And at this point Leon still still has. No I know my God. And we're wandering the FAIRMONT. There's a beautiful gingerbread house because it's Christmas and we walk out on the terrorists. Know hold on. You rushed me passage into Red House. I was like Oh my God. I want to look at other gingerbread houses. It's pretty we're like no. We have to go up to the roof right now. Like why gotta go. It is because I had set this up where our friend was waiting in a Bush in the freezing cold December weather San Francisco. She was there for a while there for so long. And do you want to say what happened. You asked me to marry you boom and you open it by being like like when you go today. It wasn't a year ago today. Whatever I should've asked you to marry me Arrow? Let me do this terrible this. I said that I should have said that I love you. Are there because it was super romantic and I decided that I was GonNa make up for it right now and then a god down on that and I was like at our friend. Our a friend was like a hiding in the Bush taking low-quality here's a worst quality pictures. They were like blurry cell phone pictures in the middle of the night and it was. You can't see anything not our that. Sorry be but there was like a really drunk couple that swore that they had pictures for us. Never send them to us. We're still waiting on those. If you're out there please we send us our wedding pictures. Come on Heather and then we went down to the room and we celebrated with all of our friends like arranged. A surprise party. Surprised that one. You actually actually didn't see come now. You didn't see coming when I booked our first our wedding night. After our wedding at the FAIRMONT. Because we can't afford that Shit without credit card right points. That part of the story does get sexy. Don't they feel so violated now. We love the Fairmont and Fairmont on San Francisco holds a special place in our heart because we have so many moments there and it's such a beautiful place this is not sponsored by the FAIRMONT. But if you're listening we're not turning away sponsorships remove both. Yeah it was. That was my favorite San Francisco Story. It was super romantic You're a big old softy. Real mushy and disgusting. And I love you. I know that we gave San Francisco a lot of love but we live in Oakland. But I promise that we have in Oakland episode coming up because Oakland is one of the best different than San Francisco Cisco but we'll do that on a future episode and I think to close off this episode. What have we did like a little mash? Up of all of our favorite San Francisco songs but like only like take a few seconds each so that we don't violate the copyright. What do you think a little mash? Up Son Fra In San Francisco. San Francisco's call Vic Johnson. MM SMOOTH SMOOTH PARVO

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Virology (COVID-19) with Dr. Shannon Bennett + various ologists

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Virology (COVID-19) with Dr. Shannon Bennett + various ologists

"Oh Hey it's your friend who washes her hands roughly five times more often than she did last week. Ali Ward back with a special APP of allergies so this episode coming out March tenth and it was not even conceived of until a few days ago. But guess what we needed. I wanted it. We made it so. Pass it on to anyone who needs a distillation of what the hell is going on and how much we should be freaking out. It's fascinating informative. I'm so glad all just available but I kind of a secret up top. I mentioned last year as a secret at the end of an episode that I was shooting a new show for Netflix. And y'all if finally comes out this week on March thirteenth this Friday it's called one hundred humans he and it's bananas. We got one hundred. People who represent the demographics of the United States and alongside social psychologists and statisticians ran them through experiments to see if people are more biased than they are. 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Podcast inspired me to finally finally pursue my dream of a PhD. So thanks for that and all the hard work you do show us it. Smart people are really just people like the rest of US awkward. Gross funny suffering from Imposter Syndrome and all the rest Mubarak's out hell yes to a botany related episode. One day go also listener Cagey demerist. Happy to have a scatalogical smile on your face. Okay Virology in it. Let's get into it. Had planned to interview the Director of Science at the California Academy of Sciences this petite. Brunette bad ass. Dr Shannon Bennett for Kholsa Dodgy episode about Mosquitos and Skater Diseases and malaria and dengue fever and Zeka and I arrived with your patron questions in hand and as her wonderful assistant. Andrew was walking me down the hallway. Hander he mentioned the Dr Bennett had just given a talk to all the staff members of the Academy of Sciences about covert nineteen as she is a viral. It is very up on the topic and the research in the outreach. Hot Damn I said. Let's change US entire thing. We're doing virology which comes from the Latin virus meaning poisonous substance which comes from the word for sap of plants or a slimy liquid a potent juice which is after all what is dripping from our face openings threatening to kill friend and foe alike and we're all pretty scared and confused now because this is a really huge and important topic. I figured let's make this kind of a bit of a salad with more than one. Allah. Just let's make it a special up. Let's get a little crazy. I also reached out to previous guests including disaster. All Gist Dr Samantha. Montano I sprinkled in some wisdom from disinfect geologist. And Bleach Chemist Dr Evan Rempsberger and also touched base with beloved Cairo urologist. Dr Merlin Tuttle about pointing are on webbed fingers accusations toward the back but the backbone of this special episode is Dr Shannon Bennett. Who sat down for a full length chat about her work and this new novel virus. She's knowledgeable and passionate and addresses not only the genetics of the virus but the symptoms and infection rate and prevention and testing. And how we should handle the fear and the seeming chaos of pandemic and what these virus population curves mean. And if you're freaked out that's okay but you will leave it feeling armed and empowered. I promise so. Wash your hands. Communists and feed your brains with this bonanza of Corona with four just folks at disaster handler hygiene scientists a- Batman and of course chief of science at the California Academy of Sciences Virologist. Dr Shannon Bennett okay. I handed Dr Bennett. Mike and Instantly apologized that she had to touch something I touched and we were off. I'm GonNa give you this again. I'm sorry no wash later. We're impermeable yes right. Yes only if we take this and touch our is knows about washing. So we're said that's a good point. Stop touching my face. Fifth on average fifteen times an hour ninety times a day. We touch our face. We don't even know. Are you serious yet? And I think it's part of our grooming heritage you know as primates we groom and we're always grooming and we just don't even know it can. We can't touch other people's faces right well that socially we don't usually do that. But okay good to know and you are a molecular Meteorologist you are virologist. You got a lot of allergies on your belt. It's really fun yet. How many you also microbiology to I. Call my civil microbiologist. Because I studied viruses in the context of the rest of the microbial world they live in and so- virologist and microbiologist why not yeah and molecular epidemiologists. And you've got a busy week. You've got a busy couple of weeks haven't you? It's been very exciting. Ooh My goodness your work. I know has you've spent a lot of your time looking at mosquitoes and malaria and dengue fever. And You yourself. I understand not just been a doctor but also a patient in this right. Yes yeah I think you really have to know your steady organisms intimately? What better way to do that than to be a host yourself? It was not done on purpose though. Right part of the experience that led to my origin stories as an apologist. You tell me a little bit about. When did you start looking at things? That are microscopes. When did you start wondering about how things jump from animals to humans when it all happen right so I I liked biology? I liked being outdoors but outdoors and biology. That's a huge spoke of things you could focus on and I had no focus until very late in my undergraduate program. I had an opportunity to go to west Africa and volant as a volunteer for the summer and I worked with Communities to talk about primary healthcare challenges but using theater really interested in theater and As a teaching tool and in the daytime I taught grade five math in the evenings. I taught A theater program Y'All this August. Journeys started because she was a theater nerd hall my heart and like every good citizen. I went to my public health professional. I got all the vaccines and anti malaria. Medicines that I needed and six weeks later I had to Africa and within two weeks. I caught malaria. And everybody said this malaria's resistant to all those anti-malaria you Westerners are prescribing. This mosquito borne parasite. It's not a virus. Malaria is caused by a parasite. A you carry a related to us. At the cellular level it had evolved resistance and continues to evolve resistance very rapidly so that was my first lesson a things change. Yes then I saw. I was wrestling with malaria. Fever chills cycle. That is a hallmark of that pathogen. And I've picked up amoebic dysentery. Oh yeah so maybe dysentery is caused by a little us. Also you carry a single celled animal end to me hissed the LYRICA. So it history. Linda comes from the fact that it melts your tissues in your colon on your intestine and creates bloody all servers and so the first hallmark is you lookin' UC bloody stool. So I saw a lot of blood on my stole I. Gala concerned shirt enough I had amoebic dysentery still wrestling with fever chills from malaria. Mike so they shipped me off to a leper colony Leprosy's caused by a Tyrian so they literally set you to a leper colony only place to get nursing care. I thought that was like Perhaps an exaggeration but no it's true. I was hospitalized. Leper colony had nursing. Care there and legacy. Even though there's a lot of social stigma around leprosy It actually is not very infectious. It's transmitted through family so it can look infectious. Just like corona virus. Right now is being transmitted through families. But it turns out that it's a combination of long intimate exposure and genetic predisposition so it's not very infectious. So is perfectly fine for me to be hospitalized a leper colony was a very very casual pleasant experience. But I saw lots of evidence of people with leprosy or recovering from leprosy in typically causes your lower extremities to atrophy and drop off eventually so so that was interesting. I had also picked up a skin infection while I was there. So we have microbes on our skin A whole complement of them. One of them is a staphylococcus bacterium. Which basically I had an open wound. I think it was a mosquito bite that I'd scratched. Or maybe it was a cut on my leg and it got infected with staff and I. Who's getting spiky fevers from from staff? So stri Asians down my leg. It was all very exciting so I had a double triple whammy of to eukaryotes bacteria and then I was surrounded by bacterial infection so I had a lot of time to languish in the hospital. You were a hot mess as think about my polite and I understand that things were out there all the time. They're either in human communities or non human communities they're evolving their changing I came out of it with kind of a new. A deep appreciation and admiration for the incredible diverse world of microorganisms. Whether they're viruses or bacteria or you carry it's and what it was to be a host and what it was to be a parasite and conquer all these barriers right like a worthy adversary type of respect. They call it an arms race and truly. That's maybe not quite fair because they have us beat in terms of being able to evolve more rapidly and have more on the line right so Dr Bennett says that viruses are under a lot of pressure to be really good at being effective parasites whereas we have to defend ourselves against all kinds of things not just these viruses. So were outsmarted mostly. Oh and speaking smarts. She went on to get her bachelor's of science in biology from McGill University and her PhD in Zoology from the University of British Columbia. But that was after she recovered from her hands on experience with pathogens. And how did you keep your spirits up when you were in a leper colony with three diseases? It was incredibly inspiring to see people with leprosy making a positive contribution to their own lives in each other's lives it was a they called these leper colonies because they're ostracized. And basically they worked together they Have a a an economy? They were creating crafts and they were innovating ways of sustainable farming before the rest of the world was even thinking about it. So caging animals over fishponds so the poop whip fertilize the fishes and then they have this sort of way of You know keeping the whole thing going. So it's very admirable approach to living with the disease. Yeah and then while I was in the Leper Colony. There was an attempted coup. I Beg your pardon. This was in Liberia in nineteen eighty nine so it was the first herberger of the nineteen ninety-one civil war. So I was there I was. I heard all the gunshots machine gunfire Canadian so I don't have deep experience with firearms anyway that it was on such an intense scale that It was it was incredible and it was while I was in the leper colony that I thought I was almost thankful for being there thankful for being sick and in a leper colony with all the stigma that implies and they basically avoided. Us entirely went through the village where it was definitely There were deaths and other atrocities of war and we were completely isolated and protected from that never complaining about anything again ever Harris. I'd say my life. Oh my God and now when it comes to viruses is a virus parasite what is a virus. What does it look like Raider? We dealing with so I consider the term parasite many do as more of a way of life than it is a particular branch of the tree of life. Okay because parasite literally means to dine at another table. It comes from a Greek word. So it's really a way of making your way in the world and it's evolved independently across many many different Groups OF LIVING ORGANISMS. That can be parasitic. Viruses can be parasitic eukaryotes and then across the tree of life many different kinds of eukaryotes can be parasitic from single celled organisms. Like Gre were into me about or plasmodium which causes malaria all the way to Nemo toads and tapeworms and flat worms and all those great gourmet stuff. So it's a way of life so choice. Now arguably many folks do not classify viruses themselves as living organisms because they kind of cheat and use the host cellular machinery. Metabolize is what everyone's dickering about. Oh but I consider them a life form. What are the basic components of a virus? And what's the Difference Between Lincoln? Aren a virus. Like what when you got this spiky little globe coming to take over your life. What is it equipped with so viruses are fairly simplified? But they're very diverse and they. They're not even one single lineage. So when we talk about viruses they probably arose multiple times. Or if they didn't and if they evolved from the same ancestor. We can't track it back far enough in time to say one way or the other. They have fairly simple structure and it depends on which group viruses. You're talking about the virus's I work on. Have a simple what we call a a nuclear captured sort of a Lipid Beyeler Membrane with proteins. Stick off of it and that membrane structure contains the genetic information of the virus. And then that's it so genetic information some kind of coding and then some proteins that stick off the end in the case of viruses that infect you carry oats they use these proteins to bind to the host cell and then fuse into the host cell past the host membrane into the cellular Moosh body of the host cell. And then that's where they've picked up all this other these other functions they need. They co up the host genome to make the building blocks that they need to replicate their genome so imagine a double layer outside the has all these very fetching protein accessories that just stick onto your cells bust into them and then hack. You're coding to make more of itself. It's slick also impolite. And then depending on the kind of genome and that too is very diverse across the different viral groups so they are viruses with double stranded. Dna genomes like ours and there are viruses with single stranded genomes like the new novel. Corona virus and the the mosquito borne viruses. I study in the Flavor Vera Day family which includes Dingane Sika tiny a little bit about the novel coronavirus. Why is it called the novel coronavirus? Why is it cove in nineteen like and how long have we even had an inkling that it existed? So it's gotten a new name now we got all on the same page and we are calling it. The name officially is SARS corona virus to see cool. Okay so it's SARS stands I severe acute respiratory syndrome virus so corona virus co V and. There was a SARS corona virus. It emerged in late. Two thousand to two thousand and three in Hong Kong of via a wet market similar to this situation and it's about eighty percent related to this corona virus. So that's why we're calling it. Sars corona virus to okay. It has even closer relatives in known viruses. That are out there. A bunch of viruses that were described from wild bats. The I think it's called the Horseshoe Bat in China and in Twenty fifteen twenty seventeen. Some of those viruses are up to ninety six percent related to this virus. So in theory we've known about this particular virus or at least it's very very close relatives since twenty fifteen maybe even okay her twenty seventeen but we didn't know about this specific virus until it was first documented in China in the city of Wuhan an associated with a case. Cluster around market a wholesale. It's called seafood market on on seafood wholesale seafood market. But it sells lots of other different kinds of things including live animals wild and domesticated animal severi. It's got lots of different potential bridge. Vectors Abridge animals that could have brought the virus from bat reservoir to humans. But we don't we don't know And that case cluster was right around the end of December December thirtieth twenty nineteen so the disease that this is causing. It's called Corona virus disease. So the name of that is called co vid nineteen so that's where covered nineteen comes from. Oh God it for the year okay for the year and for the disease so it's just like HIV is human immunodeficiency virus. Disease is AIDS so same thing Hiv Virus AIDS as the disease SARS covy to is the virus code. Nineteen is the disease that makes so much sense. Yeah okay so covet. Nineteen Corona vie role disease from twenty nineteen co vid nineteen also after doing a Cairo ophthalmology episode. I know that bats get a lot of flack they take a lot of Guano from us and then how do they know that? It wasn't from a snake that a bat eight or do they know for sure that it was bats because the bats are so beleaguered when IT COMES TO INFECTIOUS DISEASES. So for bats it depends. Actually bats are hit way harder by fungi and with viruses. Maybe it depends so the way right now. All we know is based on the genetic information that the virus were collecting now shares with viruses that were collected from other bats. There was also viruses that were collected kind of accidentally from a survey of other animals. And in this case it was a Pangolin. And we call Meta Genomic because we were just people were characterising the entire genetic soup without maybe looking for this particular out there. In nature there have been from independently from bats from pangolins sequences. That look similar to this virus that was collected from. Humans are gotta but there's not been a direct link to any particular animal in the market that could have been the bridge vector or even any particular bat in the market yet could have been linked to this emergence event. So it's all being done using circumstantial evidence of the actual genetic relationship of the virus and that's different from SARS and SARS. They actually went and sampled specimens in the market and were able to draw direct link. So we're not there yet. We're using the genetic information and the virus to say. This is what it is okay. So what does one do on a Saturday morning? Hop on the Horn with your favourite bad expert so dial that the bat phone where Khairallah Gist and bat conservationist Dr Merlin title of Merlin Tuttle Dot. Org was standing by. I wanted to get obviously your opinion in your expertise on corona virus and how the Bat conservation community is kind of dealing with rumors and just about bats being in the spotlight in a negative way or were deeply concerned. I've had emergency requests from Malaysia. China and men. Mar All just in the last couple days. Trying to head off the ratification of bats. I'm sure that your line ear bat phone is probably pretty overwhelmed right now. Right our gain contact from all over the world. It's a huge setback for conservation of bats worldwide. Now whether some of these corona viruses in other animals first evolved in. Bats isn't doesn't seem to me to be overly relevant to the current situation. Current situation involves eating. You know the first hypotheses were that it came from eating Crates snakes that was on the pangolins and I even read one paper where they said but they weren't going to go further with this in penguins which had nine nine percent match. They found anywhere from about eighty percent to ninety six percent genomic match with bats. That's really pretty mainland given that we're ninety six percent genomic Chimpanzees I don't think anybody going on a date is worried about whether their dates gonNA turn out to be a chimpanzee very true even even on tender. You don't know what you're going to get but you're probably not going to get you know all all life on earth is related at some point. What we know is that we have searched that far more intensely than other animals because their dream come true you can set a net or trap in front of a cave with thousands of ads and have all you can handle in terms of sampling in minutes. They're quick and easy to handle by comparison. How would you like to go out and try to get thirty? Cobras for your sample or or thirty hyenas. I mean you know that most of the other animals are hardly being looked at relative to bats. Bats make absolutely superb scapegoats. They are little understood to begin with and combined match them with viruses which are little understood and you know the only people know about are the ones that kill us. We have more viruses in our bodies than we have. Sales people fair. They rarely tolerate off and kill. Every animal on earth carries viruses. That could potentially be harmful. There is no animal on earth more dangerous than our fellow. Humans yet were fingering scapegoats to seemingly avoid admission of horror. Real problems are so researchers. Think that while it may have been hanging out in bats for a long while it wasn't until humans came in contact with perhaps a penguin which is an animal that looks like kind of a cross between an ant eater and some wind chimes made of seashells. But they're critically endangered in some areas. Because they're the world's most trafficked mammo their prized for their meat and the medicinal properties of their scales so humans tend to come in contact with these intermediate hosts like camels and Pangolins and sibits when we're catching and eating them so the finger kind of points back to us as a species and as long as we're talking about finger-pointing during talk Dr Bennett gave the Cal Academy. She made another great point about the xenophobia that can spike during an outbreak and she reminds us that these pedic's come from all corners of the globe from all kinds of animals are common flu has killed by CDC estimations between twelve thousand and thirty thousand people in the US just since October twenty nineteen and the two thousand nine H. N. Ones wine flu which came from pinks in. North America infected eleven to twenty one percent of the global population killing half a Million People Merce Aka Middle East Respiratory Syndrome AKA CAMEL. Flu can be transmitted through contact with camels or by ingesting unpasteurized camel milk. And it's a highly dangerous disease to those with COMBER ENTITIES. Sars Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome initially came on the scene in two thousand and two in though the mortality rate was high there were just over eight thousand cases resulting in seven hundred seventy four deaths so influenzas can be much more threatening now. Sars and Moore's are both corona viruses which are round spiky things. They're almost an adorable pestilence. And I've seen pictures of it. It looks like a cush ball an evil evil Kush ball. Erica dog toy right bad intentions just trying to live life. I know just trying to do hustle. We just don't really like it. It's K I mean congrats for being so successful so fast but we don't like it What exactly is it. And how is it different from other corona viruses? Because he's a cold virus technically no not well not necessarily I should say so we when we refer to the common cold. There's actually tons of things that can cause common cold. Yeah so there are a group of viruses called Rhino viruses. That cause common cold like symptoms. There's a there are two corona viruses that jumped into humans from animal. Reservoirs that are in a different group of Corona viruses. That I think up to twenty ten to twenty percent of common colds. Maybe thirty are due to these human corona viruses. But they're in a completely different cluster. than these Coruna viruses that includes Moore's and SARS and SARS to now those are called these. This new. This other group is called the Beta Corona viruses. And they are not typically what we think of as common cold like symptoms common cold is usually upper respiratory with Nasal Feren. Jalen throat and a lot of blowing your nose and sneezing whereas this virus as well as SARS one are more associated with and murders in fact with pneumonia like symptoms so they're infecting the lower respiratory tract. Got So the same with SARS too. Is that it seems to be associated with mostly lower respiratory and that comes with certain pathogenic implications. Because that's where you would get sorted. Pneumonia like symptoms associated with the lower respiratory tract. Okay so most of this interview with Dr Bennett took place in an office but afterward I thought of a few more questions so I met up with her in the planetarium the cal academy that evening after her talk. And before our museum nightlife panel to ask her just a few more things so this virus and facts respiratory tissue so it's mostly lung tissue lower respiratory to share and then sometimes upper respiratory so basically the symptoms are associated with a dry cough Fever fevers must common symptom. Eight percent of all sick people develop fever and is not a particularly high fever. So a hundred point four degrees and up so people should check their temperature Dry cough fatigue kind of like when you get the flu. You feel. Body can fatigue And then shortness of breath and shortness of breath we used to think was the most common symptom up there with fever as the most common symptom. But it's maybe about twenty percent of people develop shortness of breath. Okay I heard that covert nineteen can cause your lungs to fill up with blood or is that just a rumor so the people that are really getting this disease vary severely are getting ammonia. So anything that infects your lower respiratory tract can eventually result in pneumonia and that's basically an inflammatory response of your body that fills your lungs up with fluid fluid that your body produces to fight infection but it. Kinda goes crazy. It's what we call a site a kind storm. So there are many kinds of pneumonia. It's basically inflammation of the lungs. It can be caused by bacteria different kinds of bacteria. This is definitely consistent with viral pneumonia. Which is really mostly associated with this sort of overwhelming site. A kind of spots. So it's a big immune response that you're getting if you're coughing a lot and you're trying to get rid of the fluid in your lungs. Probably blood might be in the sputum but in general it's sad pneumonia case. I Know Sida kind are proteins made by your immune system and they do all kinds of signalling to moderate inflammation and immunity. When those cytokines go little hog wild it can affect the entire body doing really intense damage lungs and deliver and the kidneys and so a cytokine storm can cause multiple organ failure. So just think about that when you feel too lazy to wash your hands well or when you just can't resist touching your face multiple organ failure versus using some soap. So what is okay but now back to the structure of the actual virus. It's a corona virus because of the spike proteins. That US Prakash off of the I mentioned that the viruses have this containing nuclear capsule the genomes inside and then sticking off of this new click caps. It are proteins that are really important to help the virus bind to the host cell. And then fuse. So what they have to do. Is they bind and then they trick the host cell into basically engulfing it it's called FAGO psychosis a Gulf it into an internal bubble inside the cell called in end zone and then once it's enclosed in the south it needs to punch through the host cell membrane to get into the side of plaza of the cell. And do its thing okay. And so it uses proteins to both bind to the cell and then once it gets engulfed it uses us at it uses proteins to tunnel to to basically open up a gateway oof us and and pump itself in and so the spike protein is very important in SARS coronavirus two as well as SARS corona virus one original For binding to the host cell. So it it's these proteins determine the The what we call the host Trope ISM the kind of host it can bind to and then kind of cells within that host. They can move into. So they're very important. They they give it this sort of beautiful halo effect because Spike Proteins. Kind of stick out like a funny crown. Yeah that's where the corona comes from and that's where the corona trump and now I've seen the exponential growth curves and have you seen that animated graph where they're all just kind of cruising along and then you see corona virus and you just see it on this upward trajectory. That is horrifying right. Why is it so scary and so successful so fast? So there's a lot of unanswered questions. We know that it's spike protein. Does differ from SARS the first stars. The first SARS was was different in that it caused a higher rate of mortality. So case fatality rate was around ten percent but it didn't transmit quite as rapidly you would get infected with the virus and then it might take four to five days to develop symptoms. We call that the incubation period and then for days after that another four to five days you wouldn't be able to transmit. Oh and then you only start to transmit after you'd been sick so it made SARS the first SARS easy to contain even though it was scary deadly so this virus is not as deadly okay. It's rolling in at around it. The estimates vary depending on whether it's a population of older people with Co Morbidity or other health challenges but it's coming right around three percent rochester minus but what about conflicting reports. That say the danger is no big deal less than a fraction of a percent versus others that put the death rates much higher. Who's lying to us? And what do they want out of? It is nobody lying. Is everybody lying? What we're saying so there are two words being used here. One is mortality and one is case fatality rate. Oh so we don't know how many people have the virus so if you divided the number of deaths by all the unknown people that could have it. Then yeah maybe the mortality rate. Be Pretty Low Leah. But what we're saying is it's about that. Sars had a one in one ten died that was the case fatality rate okay and so with SARS coronavirus to cove nineteen the case fatality rate. Since we're talking about Cova nineteen disease. Now Yeah that is you know. Three three point four percent okay. So that's when you know it's a case what what's the chances of dying so you have to be really careful what you divide it by okay. The deaths by the total number of known cases or the total number of potential infections. And that's a really really hard number to get a handle on you because unlike SARS one where you had your incubation period and then you had your symptomatic period and then just should could transmit with SARS too. You could start transmitting right away even before you have any symptoms or at least we think we don't know exactly when but you're a symptomatic period can last or incubation period can last up to two weeks on average seven six seven days up to two weeks now and and as far as we know people can transmit before they're symptomatic so that means it's a lot harder to get a handle on so when people report cases that could be as long as fourteen days. After they've been capable of transmitting these other people so the estimate of the reproductive rate of the virus is pretty high. Yeah that it's faring. From any one individual could infect to others up to four others and in some places in closed settings like nursing homes or cruise ships the transmission the reproductive rate of the virus has been even higher way higher. Yeah so on. The order of measles higher we as reproductive rate of twelve to eighteen. Okay so quick recap the reproductive rate means how many other folks and infected person could spread it to so spreading an airborne disease to twelve to eighteen others yet. There's a reason that measles vaccines are a good idea. Now the Flus reproduction rate is about one point three meaning. If you've got it you'll give it to about one point. Three people and SARS Cova to is estimated at about two point two. But it's still pretty early right now. As of March night twenty twenty there have been one hundred thirteen thousand reported cases of Kobe. Nineteen and about half of those sixty two thousand are fully recovered. Three thousand eight hundred ninety five people have died so remember that rate of reproduction for SARS covy to can vary a lot depending on the close corners and some folks are in living situations that put them at greater risk so people are concerned because we don't know how many infections are out there. That could be transmitting. And when we report cases were really only getting the tip of the iceberg. You don't know how big the base of the iceberg is. So that's why we're trying to prepare ourselves for you. Describe the epidemic curve in China. We know we can look back and trace the epidemic curve. We know that it started that the low levels of cases started in the end of December. We actually can use genetic information to predict the origins of that human form. And it's looking like mid to end of November that this ancestral virus was around the one. That's causing cove in nineteen. It's we started to detect the cases December thirtieth. We started to see growing cases through January. Big boost through Chinese New Year's and we are peaking through February and and finally we're hitting the the top of the curve and now if you look at the cumulative cases it's starting to level off okay and if you're looking at the number of new cases per day it's starting to go back down the other side. Oh Okay and this whole thing in China at least from ramping up to hitting the peak to going down. The other side has taken about two months or so okay. Two and a half months so the big question here on the. Us's when we will start to hit that curve and start to really increase exponentially in terms of the number of cases that we detect and then how high that curve will go. Will it be as intense as it wasn't China or will we use different methodologies to keep it flatter And if we flatten the curve. Will that make the curve last longer? So if you look at overall. Cova nineteen cases the curve starts off small and then goes skyward and it still headed skyward. That's overall global. But if you look at just mainland. China where most of the cases have originated. It reached a peak in. It's starting to cruise to the right instead of going straight up. So where can you get? Covert nineteen data. I'll put links to these sources on next train and get hub at Elliot Dot com slash gs slash virology but where can you get? Covert Nineteen itself. And now where is it? Is it on door. Handles it on airplane trays. Like yes where where is it and how do we not get it right? So this is what we call a virus that transmits by airborne droplets. Okay there has been some evidence of fecal Tab fecal transmission so it has been found in in those kinds of body products. He would've already. Yeah but when we say airborne droplets that basically means that it's in the water droplets that we produce when we sneeze or cough or if we're rubbing her eyes nose mouth and then depositing or capturing a cough and depositing those on surfaces fish so wherever the droplets land or are put by our hands for example is where the virus could be picked up by the next host So that's different from something like measles which is truly airborne and can actually float in the air as an aerosol and that's why measles is can potentially if you don't get vaccinated can be highly highly transmissible so this is not measles it's not fully aris allies airborne it's probably most likely to infect people through being coughed on directly put have droplets land on you directly or you pick up the virus from a surface and then you rub your eyes or rub your nose and it gets into a mute. Hold your hamburger. You take a big buy in your hands of touched the Burger. So so it's it's basically any potential surface that you've touched with your hands or other body part that then you introduced to any of your own mucous membranes. Mormon when viruses deposit things on surfaces. We call those Foam Mites F. O. m. It es Fondly referring to my iphone as a phone night so you can imagine right the Tunceli. I'm handling the phone. I'm putting it down places other people might be picking it up my daughter or something so sa- clearly As a as a precaution that we can all take his to wash our hands before we use our hands to touch our mucous membranes. Like our eyes or nose or mouth or food that we're GONNA put in our mouth okay and cover your cough or sneeze because You don't WanNa be a spreader and remember. We could be walking around without symptoms and be spreading the virus and our phones are disgusting. Right. They're disgusting okay. Keyboards and microscopes in doorknobs and elevator buttons so avoiding touching any of those really common surfaces. Just a great thing just a side note. I love how she said. Common everyday. Items like keyboards and doorknobs. An elevator buttons and phones and Microscopes. This amazing lady a molecular epidemiologist. Or what okay. So that is good to that. Like it's not that your phone might be disgusting like your phone is dirtier than like has more living on it. The new toilets or something right something insanely I would not be okay. I think that is probably true. And how long it can can The virus that causes cove nineteen SARS. To how long can it live just hanging out on your phone hanging out on button? So I actually don't know and I don't know if I was looking in the published literature Fiat Information and I didn't see a study I've heard people in the press or maybe casually mentioned a different times like twenty four hours. Three six hour with flu with influenza. It can persist over for twenty four hours or more but two totally different virus and it depends on the temperature so actually flew does really well. It persists longer when it's cool and dry which is one of the reasons. Why influenzas does well in dry winters in the temperate zone when we're crowded together indoors and they're living in these cool dry environments we don't know enough about SARS covy to to really know but for sure I'm would not doubt that it could persist a goodly amount of time but we don't really know exactly how long that is. At least I don't okay so we're about to get to more common quandries. Were all facing and you know. I usually do your patriotic questions. But I had no idea I was doing this episode until about one minute before so I just played it by ear also for each episode. We donate to a charity of the largest choosing this week. 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Do you have a bunker full of canned food? What's going on? No no no no. I think just like anything we could potentially get whether it's seasonal flu or corona virus or rhinovirus. A common cold virus. It's I think plen- T to wash your hands and s- open waters just fine you don't need. Nfl based hand sanitizer anathema based hand. Sanitizer doesn't hurt either. I mean it's not a substitute for washing your hands with soap and water. Wash your hands with soap and water is better but hand sanitizers fine. But it's not necessary. If you touch something just go wash your hands as soon as you can before you touch your mucus membranes. And you'll be fine. We don't have to carry hand sanitizer in every pocket and every car. You can also make your own disinfectant for surfaces or. You can just use soap and water on surfaces. Oh so sopa water on surfaces or any cleaner that sixty percent ethanol or more you. Can you know by rubbing alcohol from? Oh I hope I didn't just okay but heads up don't use straight rubbing alcohol on your hands or you might cause a skin burn or drying or cracking out. Some folks are trying to make their own hand sanitizer. They're just going full. Diy pinterest mode using two-thirds rubbing alcohol and a third aloe Vera Gel to moisture is but experts are like Yo if you get the concentration wrong or you contaminated using non-sterile tools to make it. It's not going to be as effective as store-bought so don't bother can I? Douse my Mitts and whisky. You ask as long as I'm hold up drinking it hoping not to die over stuff. Have some water my friend. Also whiskey isn't high enough proof. Neither is vodka Tito's vodka responsibly. Discouraged hoarding in tweeted out per the CDC hand. Sanitizer needs to contain at least sixty percent. Alcohol Tito's handmade vodka is forty percent alcohol and therefore does not meet the current recommendation of the CDC. So I'm sorry to say you cannot. Fix Things by splash imposed on your party. I know it's disappointing. End You can also make surface cleaner out of bleach. I I have a lab here. I disinfect surfaces with seventy percent ethanol or ten percent bleach. But it turns out you could get away with three percent. Bleach a three percent bleach solution. Just make sure you leave things wet. You don't dry them off right away because at least needs time to break down some time. Yeah and same with ethanol white. So if you're buying wipes make sure that they're still wet when you're using them. Don't use them like till they dry out right and don't use it and then dry it off with a dirty towels good point. Let's take a moment to revisit. The Disinfect Balaji episode with Dr. Evan rempsberger who is a bleach chemist at Clorox in Northern California? He has dedicated his career to killing gross stuff. It can make sick now. How is bleached disinfecting things so some research? That came out only about a decade ago zeroed in on the house. In according to a study published in cell magazine the Active Ingredient and bleach causes proteins in bacteria and viruses to unfold in the same way that a fever would fight and infection. When you spray it first on the counter you can leave it there to kick some bacterial viral assets for like five to ten minutes depending on your counter. And what about the smell of bleach? I learned on the lab trip. That the more Baluchi smell the more. It's kind of busting up cells. Is that true? Yeah that's true. So it's like the bleach. Bleach smell is consumers. A lot of them love it. Because it's it's a good indication of coming into a clean. You know bathroom. I can tell you nothing that are than going into like at the ball game and going into the bathroom and if you smell bleach and there's like okay cokie. We can go in the restaurant. That's a really good side just knowing how how well it works disinfecting that smell your. It is the smell of Bleach. Fragmenting up the the things that comes content. That is a little bit of what you're smelling that that's a nice cue that it's done. It's it's good to know so the next time you think smells like bleach in here. Thank you know. Smells like a lot of destroyed pathogens in ripped apart viruses aromatherapy and these trying times and now back to biologist Dr Shannon Bennett. And what about symptoms? I know that some people can be symptomatic my fear 'cause I travel a lot like I was on a plane this morning. I'll be on one tomorrow right. I'm my parents are Have Armenia compromised? And I'm afraid I'm supposed to see him like two weeks and I'm like if I pick it up but I don't know I give it to them like we all know not all of us but a lot of us know that like those masks aren't doing anything like what do we do so I to have an older mother. That has asthma. And I certainly wouldn't ever want to give her this so it's like I said it's not measles where it's gonNA fly through the air. But but they're definitely droplets can travel about six feet so if developed symptoms. Clearly you would want to avoid contact with them. Close contact before you develop symptoms if you don't have symptoms. You're not coughing. So you're probably potentially depositing full mites around so just like we can use good hygiene to protect ourselves. You can also use good hygiene not to transmit so if you're washing your hands frequently not only are you not liable to give it to yourself but if you did touch your face and hands wash hands again. Wash your hands before you prepare food. Don't share cups glasses. Straws with your family members like we should all do that right. Now he would be good and don't cost cover your coughs or sneezes. Even if they're just starting with a tickle cut trying to cover. Is it better to have Kleenex with you? Or to have like a handkerchief. I have a young daughter fourteen and she when she was growing up. It was the Batman movies. Like pull your arm up and seasoned year elbow or cough into your elbow there. There is some interesting rumors going around about whether the virus can persistent on fabric surfaces. So for sure. We know that can persist on hard surfaces. But how does it persist on fabrics? So that I think is still up for question if it would persist longer on a handkerchief or on your sleeve So maybe the best course is to use a disposable Kleenex road out. Wash your hands okay. Okay rapid fire. Paper towels are hand-driers. So I'm a big Fan of paper towels got it. What about the Internet rumor? That SARS corona too is an escaped biowarfare pathogen from the Wuhan Institute of Technology. They have the same outfit that we have in terms of they have the Chinese version of the Centers for Disease Control and prevention that Chinese. Cdc and that the the rumor out there. And I don't want to repeat the rumor case it's propagated but you know. The rumor was that they might have been involved. Of course many labs especially government labs are going to keep You know pathogens the cell cultures and different things to study things so it's completely plausible that All of the labs around that support us in the developed vaccines drugs. Have some forms of these things to study? I don't put any stock into the rimmer at all and the genetic evidence supports that it's not an engineered virus. Ps If you hear the word recombination in regard to this or other viruses. Don't get scared of a term. You don't know it just means that a few viruses can mix up their DNA CO infecting the same host and exchanging genetic segments so recombination in SARS cova to may have been because there were multiple animal hosts not because someone in China is trying to start the apocalypse rumors spread by rush limbaugh in infowars. Alex Jones the letter of whom had a self-described form of psychosis and convince people that the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax. Jones stated recently. That SARS Kobe to is the work of Chinese communists and that it's manmade sentiments that managed to be not only racist but sexist to now Trevor Bedford is a Seattle based biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and has done amazing work on the genomics of SARS covy too and he has a thread debunking these conspiracy theories. It's on twitter. It's definitely worth a read. A Lincoln on my website at award dot com slash gs slash virology. And also. While you're at it. Just follow him on twitter at T- RV V band and for the health of yourself and the planet stop following potato face hate mongers speaking of faces. What about masks so masks masks are not all equal? There are many kinds of masks out there. There are paper masks that are not not necessarily adequately filtering the air and then there are masked with these little built in filters and and the rest of the mask is more is less much less permeable and called and ninety five ninety five refers to the amount of air it filters the Mount of particulates it filters out of the air so and ninety five means it filters ninety five percent of the particles so in a healthcare setting where you are in a crowded space and droplets are flying they are definitely recommending and ninety five or higher and ninety nine be used by healthcare professionals by people that are enclosed spaces where they cannot escape a flying droplet because of this whole six foot rule and where they're concentrated within crowded with people for most of us going about our day-to-day. We're probably pick in the virus up mostly from Foam Mites. A mask is not gonNA protect you from full Mites and this is not measles where it's flying through the air you're gonNA know if you're in within six feet of somebody that sprang droplets so the mask won't help for four nights unless I guess some people could argue. If I'm wearing a mask I'm not touching my face but I bet you if you're wearing a mask touching your face even more is your adjusted the peace and not only that but people need to understand that all the masks that are available most of them are disposable that means to use them properly. You fit them tight you use them once and then you throw them out today. Datum selves could become fonts of full might justify collecting the phone nights that you're reading through the air on then you're touching them and so they're they're they're not a great idea unless you're in a healthcare setting right where you will be very close quarters with direct droplets and I've read that even people who use those in a healthcare setting have to test to make sure that it's fitted properly and it's easy to use wrong they. They're easy to use wrong. They're easy to use over and over again and They could give you this false sense of security going into a situation when if it hasn't been fitted properly in there are gaps. You're actually pulling in more virus than new if you didn't and then there's not enough for the people who need them for Endo's last spring we want is for there to be a run on masks and the people that are really expose not having access to them. Yeah just a side note the. Us Surgeon General tweeted an exasperated plea. That started with seriously people. Stop buying masks. They're not effective in preventing general public from catching corona virus but of health care providers. Can't get them to care for sick patients. It puts them and our communities at risk and quote. So what if you bought them when you thought you needed them and now you feel bad or embarrassed about it don't be Barest? Just contact a local healthcare provider or er. Let them know you have clean? Unused MASKS TO DONATE MED share dot. Org is also taking an redistributing them and I fly a lot. We all know this and I was onto planes this week for work. I saw a ton of people wearing these vented and ninety five numbers. It's kind of like a Gucci purse. Once you know what it is you see him everywhere also in researching this episode. Guess what all my targeted website. Ads are for hip even the New York Times sidebar. Ads are n ninety five masks enhance sanitizers. If you've been googling corona virus a lot so when it comes to widespread panic. There's really no escaping commerce. Now speaking of I was supposed to give a talk at south by southwest. Edu this week but it was canceled. What do you think about This particular disease being an excuse to stop going to parties. My daughter's like what are they gonNA close goal. What are they going to classical so I for one am not changing my social gathering? But I'm being mindful of social distancing. So the difference is that I am not necessarily shaking hands hugging kissing or sharing a drink with someone like I. Might you know doing a party. The Hub Can I take your so? Those things are definitely a good things to not do at this time but I think still at this point I think social gathering news is we don't have enough indication at the base of the iceberg is so huge that we should stop gathering socially what about say trips. Like I know I'm going to Costa Rica so far no cases in Costa Rica. But I'm going a couple of months but One patron listener. Whose friend of Mine Dr Teagan Wall Is She has had a part of a lung removed because of Valley Fever. And she's planning on going to Hawaii with her sixty six year old and she's like should I not go like a pre existing lung thing. She's like my being paranoid. Yeah what do you think people traveling? I think the first thing she should do is talk to her medical. Yeah Pressure Right. So among us and the role in las but yeah absolutely whenever you travel and you go transit through airports. You're passing many many where people from many many more places and you are potentially exposing yourself to fo- MITES and coughs And then again. If you're in an airplane it's not like measles can be flying around the cabin but if the person beside you behind your in front of you is coughing actively there's that so again. I think being mindful that if you do travel you need to be. Ultra careful about touching your eyes nose and mouth or food with unwashed hands and distancing yourself from contact with with other humans direct contact so I personally am still traveling. I have a wonderful trip Planned to do field research in the Maldives at the end of March march twenty seven. I'm really really hoping that I can go really what I'm saying about that is I'm looking to the CDC and following their travel advisories so if they have issued a travel advisory against a place and they have issued travel advisories to what they're classifying as level three countries. Yes don't go. I'm not going to go and you risk if you do go. Maybe not being able to get back. As readily many airlines are canceling some percentage of flights so so Looking to the. Who IN CDC guidelines for travel advisories based on destination is the what I am doing and then using safe personal precautions when I do travel to non level three locations okay I wonder to think that Olympics are going to be next well. I think that that is what everybody's talking about. Yeah so Actually I was just looking at the data in Japan and they still have not hit the top of their curve. Okay so China has an. It's heading down the other side. Japan has not quite okay so depending on how it all rolls. By the time the Summer Olympics occur it could be down the other side right and they could be starting to pull up. Pull up so we have many events planned at the academy. Were just keeping an eye on the data and not making any premature decisions and like I said with diseases. They come in a wave and the wave peaks and then it goes back down again. What causes that drop actually You know that's a very good question. Most people assume that all the people in a certain population that could have gotten it at a certain efficiency that the virus might exhibit. Got So we were kind of thinking about it. As like a herd immunity some somehow the population of at risk potentially expose people is is not that population isn't large enough to sustain ongoing virus transmission for whatever reason and there's lots of things that might determine that in China it was concentrated in Wuhan probably many people that could have been exposed. Were exposed and the viruses now. Running out of running room like many kids are not showing symptoms. Maybe they're not on the radar so people that are going to get. It would've showed that they got it is starting to run down. So what we don't know is what the United States is GonNa he. We don't know if if WE'RE GONNA have a bell shaped epidemic curve in a given place or whether it'll be across the whole country so for examples for sure in Seattle yes definitely a curve going up and coming back down but it could be that we had a country level stay with these very discrete events like that and we never as a country go through a curve where the virus never nationally runs out of susceptible essentially and quick aside in case. You're like what's going on a Seattle. Well the first. Us case of code nineteen appeared outside of Seattle when a thirty five year old man who had recently traveled to Wuhan China. Came back with it and as of this recording nearly one hundred folks have been diagnosed and eighteen have died in the Seattle area somehow spread to a nursing care facility in Kirkland Washington causing the deaths of thirteen residents and spreading to a suspected half of its one hundred eighty workers although the center is having trouble getting a hold of enough testing kits the bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has stepped up and donated one hundred million dollars to global public health authorities to try and fight Kobe. Nineteen starting with trying to make testing kits available to Seattle area residents. So why you might ask if you are my parents who just asked me as I was. Researching are older folks more risk for this. And why haven't we seen covert nineteen kids so a few theories are that as we age our immune systems just are not as strong and our inflammatory response may be greater causing that cytokine storm? That can cause organ problems so obviously no one wants to get this and no one wants to give this to anyone. So what do you do if you feel a garbage? Are there even enough testing kits available right now? We're really not the CDC recommends in any case to call a healthcare provider immediately and they will assess your symptoms also have a working thermometer available because a low grade. Fever is one of those symptoms now for mild symptoms. Cd says stayed home and isolate. Don't spread it to your family and for worsening symptoms. Alert your doctors. So that if you do come in. They're prepared the right testing kits and their own. Precautionary measures don't just saunter in to urge care unannounced like mother-in-law doing drop by on a Sunday. Give them a heads up. I also a healthy. Immune system is important so take your vitamin C stay hydrated with not vodka. Get a lot of sleep. You have waited years to have a good excuse to stay in and watch Netflix and NAP. You're welcome also if you need a show a watch. Can I suggest one hundred humans which premieres on March Thirteenth? If you're bored tweet net flicks and tell them you love it. Also take care of your immune system. Do you think our immune systems will eventually get hip to it or do you think that eventually they'll have a vaccine in a couple of months or is it just like wash your hands. The Vaccines Aren't gonNA come fast enough. Well two one is that it does take time to develop a vaccine. There are vaccine candidates. That are being researched right now. And they look promising but to get that through drug testing and everything could take months to a year so stay tuned but the other question too is how effective a vaccine will be and with influenza. We know that that immunity does Wayne. It doesn't match anymore and it's not as effective Whereas with some things like measles vaccines awesome minute last decades so it really depends an all viruses are different Kind of antibodies. They elicit in the human body that could then be leveraged to boost people. Give people a vaccine as still completely unknown with this virus. I mean there's candidates butts. There's not there's not enough information so a lot of companies are urging workers to telecommute which I think is a great idea. Personally I will be doing that as much as possible. And perhaps so should you if your job situation lends itself to that which is a privilege in and of itself but so so many people simply cannot afford to take off work and can't telecommute because their job involves being on site to teach or to build something under served something or fix something and for them. It's good to be mindful to try to cut this thing off because some people can't take certain steps to lower their risk. Oh and if you're wondering if your dog can spread it to you or others the world health organizations as nat- but you should wash your hands after penning animals anyway said nothing about telling your animals. How beautiful they are from across the room. Which I've been doing okay. You know what? Let's try to lighten up. Little the movie contagion. Yes or no any any virus movies that you actually like. I actually Kinda like outbreak. It's a lie corner but I love. Dustin Hoffman is like I think those are all really Super Fun dying and are going to continue to die. Sign this monkey. So jared was being an angel and helping me as I was scrambling to put this episode together and this outbreak clip made him rip off his headphones. And tell me I needed to contact my favorite disaster allergist Dr Smith Montano from the disastrous episode immediately now. It was ten pm her time on a Sunday. I gently texted her and she was up and down to chat on the phone because as her twitter bio states. She's not just a disaster allergist. She's a cool disaster allergist so asked her what the Hell should we do? Should we panic? Okay Dr Montana. Thank you so much for talking to me. You're welcome in this. Covert nineteen fear and scare. And what do you suggest people know or do sure so? The first thing that I recommend is that quotes listen to the information being put out by their local public. How an emergency management officials in bell be the agencies that have the most up to date information for your specific area and so following. Their advice is your best bet. Where do people find their local emergency management officials? Good question so the best thing to do is to just go to all and search for name of Your City town or county with -mergency management and our public health and you should have An agency come up there. All names slightly different though you kind of have to search around for it but once you find their websites you should be able to find a place to sign up for email or text alerts or at least their social media So you can follow them on there. I did this for Los Angeles side. Note Ina pulled up the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health the California Department of Public Health the CDC the World Health Organization. So think locally. I see what's happening nearby. Okay and should we be taking this as the apocalypse is coming or is this just a new disease and so people are just being very precautious while I would definitely not say it is the apocalypse? Fortunately but You know this is something that needs to be taken very seriously so remember that China for the majority of people that are taking precautions. They're doing so not for yourself. But rather for the people around you who are at higher risk people who have You know certain. Chronic illnesses are are elderly and have those higher risks We WanNa make sure that. Were not doing anything to spread this around to them. So you're not a diva or high maintenance if you're being extra precautious you're just being kind of kind compassionate and empathetic to others. Yes absolutely our guys can start washing their hands. Do you think I would really hope so? That's been one thing that has been quite illuminating. How many guys on twitter like? Oh yeah a lot of guys just cruise right out of the bathroom washing their hands disgusting and then what about kind of the a little bit of the panic or the fear what should what should people do emotionally? Yeah so I think the most important thing is to just remember to be kind to each other. There's a lot of really confusing conflicting information flying around and this is very genuinely scary for a lot of people and so You know I think we want to be careful when we see people taking certain actions that tell us may seem slightly irrational or may seem like. They're making a decision out of panic. It's important to remember that. We don't necessarily know their individual situation. We don't understand you know who they're living with at home who may be high risk. What particular needs their family may have We Wanna be kind of careful about how. We're interpreting some behaviors that from the outside or with more information or more accurate. Information may seem irrational are actually relatively rational reactions for them. Let such a good point. Because you don't know if someone's immuno-compromised or if they're caring for and so don't judge people for being cautious exactly. How do you feel about people who are stockpiling canned food and water and Pierrot? Do you think there's a need to get ready for maybe mandatory quarantines or which we do so I think the general consensus coming out of official agencies is that There is a recommendation that folks have a supply of food at their homes. The kind of a general consensus seems to be two weeks worth that again is GonNa Kinda look different for different people situations. I think really that idea. That is if you are in a position where you need to stay home for multiple weeks and it's not as safe for you to leave. Your House that you are able to feed yourself that said you know emergency managers on a daily basis. Recommend that you have multiple days worth of food and water in your house for any disaster. That may occur That's pretty standard advice. If you didn't already have that that might be why you're heading out ticketed now right exactly. So what about big events being canceled or postponed. I know that in some countries weddings are being postponed or banned gatherings over a thousand people. I know south by southwest cancelled Good call do you think it really depends on where you are a situation where we don't necessarily have all of the data that we would dearly want to be able to make the most informed decisions happen a lot during disasters and so officials are needing to make decisions kind of based on information that they have heard. Zuma believe they're making those decisions based on information that They've been given by local public health officials and so the I've got approach. That's so smart and helpful. I don't know about you but I've had some stuff get cancelled that I've been like yes I could stay home. I'm actually going to a conference tomorrow in Hawaii and it has been and I. It's been very shocking. I thought for sure it would be. I hope you have some hand wipes yes I do. Well I hope you fly. Safes and updates from paradise. Well down all right. Doctor Thank you so much. Wash your hands work your tail okay. Dr Shannon Bennett had to jet so we wrapped it up and I know you gotta go to the next meeting. I'll ask you the last two questions. I always ask Worst thing about your job. Crappiest thing about it. I know that you I'm asking this of someone who has had malaria and dysentery in a leper colony during a war. But what's the worst thing about your job? It can be anything So so I'm actually playing a dual role right now. I'm I'm doing. I'm the Chief of science at the academy as well as an apologist virologists Epidemiologists and so I would say that the administrative part of my job like that an even as an apologist you have. These administrative duties like writing a rope. Hordes and writing grants that can that is. I do find yeah but doing actual research the field work and so at the administrative part of it is a little painful. What I like the least so that you can have dysentery. His job that the paperwork is worse. I get it I get it I mean when you can get dysentery from anything really consume. I got what's your favorite thing about what you do so that exactly the adventure of going out into the field. I love that part. I just love. Seeing new places is seeing new people and the feeling of discovery that I might you know. Catch catch a mosquito that contains a droplet of blood that it took from some obscure animal in nature. That might have the secret to a new virus that I could discover is so exciting. And we've discovered new viruses in. It's really incredible. And and then bringing that that secret information back into the lab and cracking open the genome in solving in doing the analysis in looking at the family tree of these viruses and how they relate to each other is my absolute favorite thing. Ever thank you so much for doing this So in essence just wash. Your hands calmed down a little bit right. Wash your hands Social distance stay home if you're sick but a lot of people were in this culture where we think Tough it out. Oh I won't affect anybody can go to work anyway but this is not the time to be tough right. Stay home if you're sick got we'll do. Thank YOU DR. Your for doing this so folks this is potentially very serious Nakimora but it can be potentially contained faster not with panic panic never saved anyone but preparedness conscientiousness compassion empathy and handwashing have saved lives and as someone who has loved ones who are immuno-compromised. I'm hoping people stay home when they can. We all just do our best to hunker down and let this thing pass over us with a curve. That doesn't look like a six flags. Attraction I myself will be laying low more than I usually do. And what did we learn asks? Smart people stupid questions and don't touch them or your face. Don't touch their face either. Now Dr Shannon Bennett is on twitter and Instagram at microbe explorer and we are at all ogies on both. I'm an award with one L. on both again. Also one hundred. Humans premiers on Netflix March thirteenth. We've been working on the show for a couple of years in Sammy obeyed the Johnson. My Co hosts in Comedians are great and wonderful and you will love them and I hope it gets you through some self imposed isolation for safety now links to all the good stuff we talked about. We'll be at alleyway dot com slash allergies slash virology. And I'M GONNA put that Lincoln. The show notes and Allergies. Merch is available at all. Ladies merged dot com thank you Shannon filters and Bonnie Dutch for managing that. They also have podcasts. Called you are that which is great. Aaron Talbert Admins theologies PODCAST facebook group. Thank you emily. White and all the volunteer allergies transcribers for keeping these episodes accessible transcripts are available link in the show notes where you can get transcripts in bleeped episodes for kids in the show notes for free. If you ever need to hire a transcriptionist email higher. Emily white at G. DOT COM. She is incredible Thank you to you. Assistant editor Jerry sleeper of Mine Jim Media and the podcast my good bad brain for helping put all these clips together. And of course. Huge thanks to editors Steven Ray Morris of the Dino podcast see Jurassic right and the kitty themed per cast for stitching it altogether like one big sloppy genome. Nick Thorburn wrote and performed the theme music. And if you stick around to the end of the show you know a secret. This week secret is that I have seen a lady walk out of the bathroom. Maybe twice in my life without washing her hands. I've witnesses honestly maybe twice and both times. It was like seeing a ghost. I couldn't believe my eyes as she's cruise right. Outta here not even any water on her paws and I went back to my table restaurant. I told everyone so. This entire nineteen situation has truly alerted me to how much weird sad machismo prevents boys from washing their hands. So Boys we love you. Don't let it kill you. We just respectfully ask you to please wash aretz as our friends. The Doctors Errands Welsh and almond. Updike from this podcast will kill you. Say Wash Your Hands. Filthy animals also. I want you to know that if you eat a lot of Goat Yogurt sometimes. Your pits smell like goats. Next Day it's so weird. Has that ever happened to you? Go Yogurt so good okay. Bye-bye Dermatology. Does zoology meteorology my role.

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