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Fresh update on "caitlyn" discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"Right and typically the way that they've done is to kind of live with a sort of detached irony right because nothing matters so the way that we go out of this is that we can't go back we have to go through. That's the only way out of this is through. We can't undo it. There's no there's no une weaving the rainbow. So to steal a phrase from richard dawkins right we can't we can't undo it. There's no way back is stepping out. We have to go through it. So i think the first thing that we want to do that. We need to make sure that we're doing when we're attacking. This stuff is still get clear about the constellation of concepts that populate the motivational economy of the people. That are pushing this stuff. We want to get really clear about how all of these things relate to each other so that we can see the endless circularity that they use right to try and make their stuff go would want to understand their power moves in social pressure tactics that they use and why they when we get into an argument about truth they switched tomorrow shaming because they're not interested in having debate about what the facts are. They're interested in gaining social power. We need to understand that we need to move through and then i think we return. We don't return. We bring through with us before you go on. I just have to clarify here when you say you know. They're they're using these ad hominem and they're just moral shaming and whatever they're attacking you and you say we have to not try to avoid that but goes through. What do you mean go through like. Just take it or oh. Oh no i mean that having the wherewithal for example white fragility when someone says you have. You say. I'm not a racist. They say you have white fragility. You have to immediately expose that as a calf trap okay. Suppose opposed and say. Look what you're saying that. If i say i'm not weiss racist i have white fragility and that white fragility is proof that i have racist. And you know that. I'm racist. Because i have white fragility marissa's like you immediately have to call the bluff on it right. The their whole game is to attack the assumptions. That you make the the response is to say all the stuff that all the games that you're playing is relying on my assumptions to a nice way to do this. I mean if you're going back to the caitlyn jenner thing when they say this. This person is wearing address. This person's wearing makeup. This person got a wig on this person identifies female. Why why is that not enough and you say can men were addresses. Will yeah okay. Can men were makeup. Yeah okay so then. What does that have to do anything with woman right right. you have to. You have to demonstrate the absurdity of it right you have to show their their own. Assumptions are are that they That the whole to be trans to go from male to female relies on the existence of gender binary. Yup you couldn't go for male to female unless there was a male and female to go from and to go to of course right so i have no if someone has entered as for you and says this is the only way that i can live. We can have a discussion about that. And i would probably be okay with that if someone says but you have to actually believe now that i am this thing that i claim to be. I can say no. There's a biological reality here. That undergirds this right so when someone moves with you on an ad hominem to immediately exposed the tactic for what it is. Yep is of absolute paramount apart exposed. The cafeteria exposed the circular reasoning exposed the argument via insinuation expose the unjustified inferences at all times everywhere. Always when they say you're misinterpreting me and they wanna say what you have to read this. Four thousand page book you immediately say if you're demanding chaired ability for me reading you than you must give me the same chaired ability in the way you re me and if you don't that i'm justified all these social and argumentative asymmetries needs to be called out immediately. You go through them. You can't go around them. You can't avoid them. You have to rip them apart great points. This is a very dante in point. I like the only way out is through that dante you know. Give us the vision of heaven. He doesn't get to just jump right up and go to heaven. He has to go down for the very bowels of hell and crawl across satan up to purgatory up to heaven yet. So then the second thing that you do is you have to take the things about which social justices pointing at which give it. Its plausibility You have to be able to show how those don't justify the philosophy and the social oncology their social philosophy that they've created out of this they're they're critical social justice doesn't hold together. You have to drive that apart then. I think that you have to. There is a very strong tradition. I think most people hold to it. They're kind of ducking and covering right now. Because all of the cultural megaphones are owned by woke people And we need people. I mean jonah. Quarter went think yesterday or the day before on bill maher show and just lit woke now on fire. It was absolutely beautiful. We need more of that So i think going through it means that we have to come through on the other side with a version of enlightenment liberal which set enlightenment liberalism which says this is a conflict resolution strategy built around democracy. Human rights.
A highlight from S6 E10 - Real Conversations on Mental Health (w/ Special Guest: Patricia Perkins)
"May is mental health awareness month. And i felt it only right to release an episode focusing on the topic of mental health. Now if you've listened to the podcast for any length of time you've no doubt heard me talk about my own struggles with ptsd depression and mon experiences. Not all that uncommon in the veteran community. What you don't often hear though is from the veteran's spouse and on today's episode. I get to sit down with my wife patricia. As she shares the story of her own emotional journey with mental health diagnoses medications. Hospital stays and a whole lot more. This is the we serve now. What podcast where. I do my best to answer the questions. Veterans and their families are already asking so you can make your post military life your best life by way of introduction my name is aaron perkins i am a us army combat veteran daddy to amazing kiddos. Host of this podcast. If you hadn't guessed. And i am joined today by my beautiful bride patricia. Welcome to the show thank you. I'm so glad to be here excited to talk about a subject that i'm passionate about. Yeah absolutely absolutely well. Great to have you here. I'm i'm incredibly happy that you agreed to be on the show. Usually it is me saying. Hey i'm going to be recording tonight. So if you you and the kids can kind of keep it down a little bit and but really really grateful that you here today. So today was one of many days where you're going through this. I don't know call procedure or treatment treatment. Okay so so. Obviously i went with you. Today is able to accompany you to that treatment and it specifically four depression right and so start with today. Let's start with today in a kind of what happened today. And what the treatment is. And let's start there. Sure okay so. The treatment is called. Tm s it means trans cranial magnetic stimulation menendez Treatment that oddly. Enough stimulates your brain. It's post what is supposed to do is to help the neurotransmitters talk to each other better and it is usually reserved for someone who's tried a few different types of medication for depression but it also helps with like anxiety. Ocd and sometimes even physical pain. Okay so so so. This is not a it. Sounds like it's a noninvasive. It's not a surgery type of thing so basically the way they explain it. It's like electromagnetic therapy. Where like in the old days where they would maybe cut. Open your head and maybe electric your brain things like that but this obviously they're not doing that. You can sit down in this chair. It's kind of like the big dentist chair. They strap you all in and they put this big magnet next to your head in a certain spot at a certain level. It's already been determined by your doctor and it made me last twenty minutes. And then you're you're on your way okay. So is that it's not obviously. I know this right before listeners. This is not like a one time thing. This is one of how many treatments you have to get. Okay so today was off my fourth treatment and i think if i did the math right i have at least thirty three more to go. So it's over a nine week period and because of where we live. I have to drive basically an hour and a half to get there. And then i'm there for fifteen to twenty minutes in the drive an hour and a half and and yeah i i definitely know that. That part in itself is frustrating. The drive so let's go back a little bit now so you're having this it might not be invasive but stewart pretty extreme treatment of kind of remapping your brain right yes. It's it's had some side effects already some some anger some tiredness Brain fog lightheadedness. The way the only way. I can explain it. It's like there's a big garden with a huge gate and there's all these locks and each treatment seems to slowly work open a new lock and then hopefully by the end all the locks will be open and king come open and i can be free of depression anxiety. I don't know if that's going to happen. I have faith that it can happen so hopefully it does happen. You me both you both so so take us back a little bit. How did you get to this point. You know obviously you. Have you know some sort of depression or anxiety or whatever take us back to diagnoses and that sort of thing so i i got diagnosed probably sixteen years ago like actual clinical diagnosis of major depressive disorder and house have severe anxiety. I have d. c. Ptsd so what is so ptsd. I know what is cd. Basically childhood post traumatic stress disorder. And then i have. Ocd okay so so ptsd. Veteran community intimately familiar with cps d c p s de. It is then the so. How did that come about. I mean this this is like you know really getting into the nitty gritty of it a little bit but i had parent you know. I had parents that. They weren't believers not that that makes you any less of a good parent but they were involved with things that they shouldn't have been involved with and they didn't have a good relationship with one another so that meant a very rocky relationship with their children and so without getting into too much and making people uncomfortable. This is a really bad childhood really bad and even in my teenage years there was some other stuff that was really bad. So just you know things that people don't really think about as being post traumatic stress disorder. I've heard other people say. How can you even have that. You weren't a soldier. Well that's not reserved for soldiers or servicemen period. Post traumatic stress can happen after a car accident after your home gets broken into after a traumatic. Any traumatic experience you can. Pdf st right right so so with depression. You were diagnosed. She said sixteen years ago crack and so did the anxiety diagnosis. Come along with that or out of that will work. It was shortly after. I think they at i thought maybe it was just really bad depression and they realized that it was both mint so they started treatment to different treatments who different medications and over the years between the two just the depression and anxiety. I know i've had over sixteen or seventeen medications and sixteen or seventeen. I didn't know there were that many others time for i mean i know. There's a lot of medications out there right. But most i know i i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say most people when they're struggling with anxiety depression or even if they do have a legitimate diagnosis of anxiety. Depression or both. It's okay let me go get this. Let me go try it. You know and then if that doesn't work maybe they go try something else but sixteen or seventeen that that just sounds like an extreme number is sensitive to medications and so what may work for a lot of people. Just doesn't seem to work for me. Or i ended up being allergic to it but i will say that i did. This test called a g. e. n. e. s. t. and it's a dna test and that's something that you're psychiatrists can do for you. There is a cost involved but it will tell you which medications and you know. They're all different classes. Work for your dna type so you have a red section and you should stay away from those. You have a yellow section. That may help. And then you have. A green section is more likely to help with your dna type so that can help a lot of people. Stay away from having to try sixteen or seventeen different medications. Sure sure that that's a really good point. And obviously you. You didn't take that 'til later. Right actually took it last year. Yeah so the break i. I wish i could have taken ten years ago. But i don't think even knew about it and that's another thing i would say. Is you know educate yourself. Don't wait on your doctors to find all the resolutions for you. Like feel free to look and research and bring it up to your doctor. you know. it's a good point. So medication is just one side of the depression anxiety. Ptsd just one side of it before the medication happens. There's something that either. Your doctors realize your families realize or you personally realize something different in me. Something is not working as it's supposed to or it's manifesting in in a certain way and i know that when it comes to ptsd specifically it manifests itself in a lot of different ways. They can manifest itself in anger in inability to focus and chronic pain. In a guilt it can manifest itself in different ways. So let's focus on the. Let's say let's. Let's go with depression right the major depressive disorder. How did that or does that manifest itself in your life. The first time. I realized that i might have an issue with. Depression was actually. I had a really bad episode. After i had caitlin so caitlyn's daughter. Sorry caitlyn's her daughter. Yeah she's fourteen now. After i had her. I was sitting just watching tv. And she was sitting there beside me and her little old bouncy seat. And i actually started having these really dark feelings kind of like oppression and actually that coincided with an anxiety attack as well and actually got rushed to the hospital because they thought i was having a pulmonary. Embolism so they thought that. I had blood clots. I was about to die. You know there was but it was a mixture of depressive episode and anxiety attack which i had never felt before and that really scared me and the doctors were able to put me on medication to help with that. It did not stop it but it did help. Sure sure so what what happens next. You know you're you're on this medication. It's helping look what happens. Is there a point at which you realize. That medication isn't working or isn't working as well as it should. Yeah most doctors will tell you you know. Give it two or three weeks to really get in your system if you don't see any changes or if you see getting worse than you're to want to let us know so that we can adjust or change that medication and over the years. That has happened so often. That i i got to this place and i'll say that it's okay to do this if you need to. Own your closet by yourself and cry for a little while. 'cause you're just overwhelmed and nothing seems to be working and you want so badly to be quote unquote normal. Go have cry. Go eat ice cream or chocolate or something. I don't even care. It's okay to do those things. But i got to this place where i was like. None of this is working. I need something completely different. And i think that's when. I did the insight site testing because most of the medications that i had been put on. Were in my red list more in the list that was for your dna. These are not going to work for you. Oh wow so going through this process and the truth is i didn't even realize this at the time we've been married for fifteen plus years and i knew that kept having different medications tried and you like oh. This is not working but we had no idea why. It's not working until this test. You didn't says hey this might actually work for you Yeah that's that stuff okay. So what about the anxiety piece you know. It started with an executive attack How does that manifest itself or did it manifest itself in your life. So i have an odd anxiety like i have panic. Attacks panic attacks but generally speaking. I'm just anxious and it's like my anxiety and my ocd. Like to just hold hands and frolic through my brain and so what. I'm feeling extremely anxious. I have to clean everything so it's kind of like since i can't control my emotions i can't control what's going on in the world. My brain has to find something that can control and the cleanliness in my house. I can control thankfully because you and the kids are pretty neat people. But i have to do have to be able to do something. Control something to calm down. If i don't do that ended up in the closet crying eating chocolate well like you said. That's okay if you have to do. It's not not not every day but so talked about the depression. Talk about the anxiety. Ptsd how does that manifest itself in your life on a day-to-day basis weekly basis. How how often what does it feel like said the. Ptsd is like a whole different monster. That lives somewhere inside of my person. And the worst episodes i have with. Ptsd is when my children especially caitlyn our daughter when she reaches those age those ages where you've espn we. We had talked about this a little bit today. As we're preparing for the podcast but it was as a recall kind of like the same ages or proxy ages where something traumatic happened in your own childhood right so so then. My brain is like imagine that happening to kaitlin. Imagine that having to our son. Christopher and then it's like this overwhelming like it's not a mama bear feeling is a mama dragon. And it's like i will. I will died to protect but at the same time. It's then there's this the the little girl in me is like. How could my mom have let that happen. How could my dad have let that happen. Where was the the parental. where were they. Why did these things even happened. That i have this trauma but we're all human doing the best. We can now. That i'm older i can. I can look at my pass without being completely angry with my parents because they were just doing their best as well. Sure sure so. 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That will significantly reduce your stress anxiety. And if you think one on one attention could be the way for you. You can also schedule your free consultation with marco once again that's live like others can't dot com get on the path to your dream life today. Alright so here we are back. Second half of the show here with my wife patricia talking about mental health. And it's okay. She's looking at me right now. She's like oh just made a noise like it's okay. Well we'll cleared up. It's fine and so so anyway so here talking to my wife patricia about mental health and about her own challenges and struggles with it. And so obviously there's no one in your corner so to speak. I mean there's the stigma associated with it but there's also no one kind of coaching. You through this of like okay. Well if this isn't working here's what you do right not currently. I've had counselors in the past. You know and they've we've tried to work through things. I have been the hospital couple of times. And i think there's a lot of people who mean well but it doesn't mean it's going to work for you and so i feel it's important that people understand that if you do have a mental illness. It's okay to research an advocate for yourself. You don't have to wait on a doctor or counselor or someone who you feel like is more intelligent or just because they have letters after their name that they know you better than you do feel free. No not feel free. Please speak for yourself. that's huge. That is so huge. And i think that advocating for yourself is such a critical element of getting the help you need. Because when i think of veterans who are struggling right. You know whether whether it's a physical health or mental health concern. They know themselves like better than anyone else knows them and so when they go to the doctor when i as a veteran go to the doctor i have an obligation to myself right to be as honest and as really a as direct as i can like look. This is the problem. This is how. I'm feeling. I'm here for you to help me fix it right. But then there's the stigma especially in the military community. Where if something isn't working right in your brain you're not working right. Oh absolutely that is the stigma is is really and i think the worst thing about mental health diagnoses today at least in america. If not all over the world it absolutely needs to be normalized that your your brain is an oregon and just like your heart and all your heart muscle but you could knees your liver. If any of those things were failing if they weren't working like they were supposed to have so many people around you. Hey what can i do for you. What can i do for your family. Could i get my blood tested to see if i could be donor. How in the world could make your life better but you hear someone is in a three month depressive episode and they can't even get out of bed. I don't see people lining up with casseroles. I don't know. I don't see that happening. You know if you have to leave an event because you had an anxiety attack there's whispers. There's not help this is strong. It is so strong. And there's a you know within the military there is a fear and i will say rightly so that if you say hey i have this particular mental condition it can potentially impact your career and in the civilian world because well as a mom i if another mom i don't know maybe somebody's going to hear this and maybe they don't want their kids hanging out but as a mom you think. Oh can this person actually take care of my kid. While i'm away or is everything issue going to be too overwhelmed. Is she going to have some kind of attack. That i don okay. If you know somebody like that. Just educate yourself right and know that that person wouldn't take on that responsibility if they didn't feel they could handle it. Yeah absolutely and you know. That's a critical point to is. There is so much misinformation out there about mental health. And you know here's the thing. Hollywood doesn't help and i'm not going to rant. I'm not. I'm not trying to say like oh. Don't make movies about people with mental conditions. You know but there is this you know. The joker movie that just came out with a joaquin phoenix. That's joker yeah. Okay so you know. He obviously has a mental health problem. It looks like severe depression and he turns out to be this mass murderer. Right and so people associate edison. He's bipolar but go ahead. Fair enough fair enough so people associate those mental health conditions with something so extreme that they saw on a screen or read an article. now there are extreme cases. it's true. I mean you can't just say that that. No one is that bad off but there are people that bad off that they're not usually the people who look like they're doing okay. There those the people who are really struggling there are more signs right than than you just meeting them. Like if i just walked up to you and said hi. My name's patricia. Perkin tie you doing. You would never think i had five mental disorders right. You know someone. who's that far gone. You know they're going to be showing signs. Oh yeah absolutely for sure for sure and you know the thing is when it comes to mental health when it comes to you know having a a severe enough level of mental health challenges concerns whatever. You wanna call them. If you don't have an official diagnosis right there are so many. I guess levels is probably the best way to put it of of severity. Because you know like saying. Hey i'm feeling depressed for a couple of weeks is a far cry from major depressive disorder right okay. Yeah may i believe probably should have been a little more research but it would be depressed for at least six months before. It is a clinical diagnosis. And so there's going to be events someone dies. A friend moves away. You have to switch jobs then you could go through a you know a few days or a week of feeling depressed. That's normal. yeah exactly. That's the normal depression. That's not the go quick. It'll medication so you can feel better. That's right it's just a normal life happens and you get down and i've even had people say to me. Well you know you have a lot of stuff. You're very blessed. You have a nice home. You have a great husband. Smart kids you you you have you have you have you have. That has nothing to do. With what my brain is doing. I have the intelligence to know that. I a blessed person a blessed individual but that does not mean that my brain is going to let me enjoy all the time. Yeah that's so true. That is so true. And so i just saw an article earlier today from cnbc said fifty one percent of young americans are struggling with mental health. Fifty one percent. I can believe and i think a lot of that if i can just put in. My personal opinion is social media. I'm sure you constantly see people who are throwing up. There highlight reels on instagram. And some of them still on facebook and then those who are throwing out things on twitter but there you're not getting their whole life you don't read what's actually going on. I mean if people looked at my facebook they would see highlights. Because i want to show the good. I don't want to show the days. I don't wanna get out bed. Showed the days where. I'm like begrudgingly. Driving my kids to school because i have to. I'm an adult to do these things. You don't see those things and especially the generation under us. They're so obsessed with social media that they think that's real life. I mean i have a good life. But it's not insta worthy like everything. I do isn't gonna be popping up on instagram. Because it's not real life right. That's just advertising then like you said it's just highlights right. Yeah and so. I want to go back to the stigma piece for just a minute. Because that's a piece that i'm really passionate about and you know in the military you know being healthy being fit to fight. That's part of the job if you're broken your broken leg unit can't use you to go to war right. You have to get that leg fixed. I if you're broken mentally your unit may not be able to use you to go to war because like there's something wrong with you and like the. The thing is with the stigma. It's okay in you know outside of the military that things that your body or your brain is not working like it's supposed to and i've heard so many veterans so min- countless veterans really be rating their brothers and sisters in arms when they talk about having. Ptsd like your combat. Experience was different than mine. Therefore you don't have ptsd or you can't be depressed or you can't be anxious like you're just whining because you want to get paid from the va. You want the va to take care of you. That's ridiculous it. It really is our veterans out there who just looking for that that extra little bit of money out a month sure. There are but by and large the majority of veterans who who are having the courage to stand up and say. Hey i got something wrong in my brain. It's not working like supposed to. They should be applauded and say you know what that is. Surreal courage that you having right now to go and say i need help. Yes it takes a ton of courage and just in time out of being a military spouse and then my time out of it and interacting with veterans and even people who are still currently serving. They they have these but they don't even know how to say it out loud. They will become an alcoholic. But there's nothing wrong with me. I had no problem with war. Or when they get out of the military you know they get hooked on drugs. Oh in the military didn't affect me very much. I'll have i don't have any. Ptsd that that crazy stuff you know or all of a sudden. They're wife isn't good enough. Their kids aren't good enough and they want to be away from them at all times. They don't want that interaction but they say they're fine because they're afraid to say i might be broken inside and might need some help. So instead of having the courage to say that they are literally ruining their lives in other ways right what alcohol would drugs with breaking up their homes with neglecting their responsibilities. That's may there's so much i want to. I want to fix it right. I want to fix the stigma. Problem wanted but there is no easy way to do it. But i think what we're doing right here is having the conversation for the world to hear that. Look it's not just veterans. It's not just veteran spouses. It's according to that article. Fifty one percent of young americans who are struggling with some sort of mental health condition right regardless of what title you go by better in active duty man woman boy girl. Mental health is no respecter of persons. I'm sorry mental illness right. No you're right and mental health needs. You know it doesn't matter who you are. What are what color you are just like any like. I said any other body part in any other thing. That may need attention. Don't be afraid to give it that attention. Don't be afraid to speak up and speak out. Don't let the stigma hold down. Yeah for sure so from our conversation today. I know we're running up on time. So we're gonna wind this down and you know. Obviously you and. I have talked about this a lot and me in the future. I'm sure we will get you back on the show and talk and talk about about this and how fixing your life especially how the team s treatment is grain because he you know. I'm not afraid to talk about right. My inner demons especially can help somebody else. I feel like i feel like god puts us through situation so that we can help other people and if we can't take the bad and turn it around and help someone than what's it for and i have to have faith that it's it's to help others. Sure sure so. We have alluded to these three big takeaways right like the big takeaways from this episode. We've alluded to them throughout the episode. We've talked about them. We've even said them but remind us remind listeners. What those big three takeaways are from listening to this. I would say the first one is to advocate for yourself like i said. Don't be to research. Don't be afraid to figure out what might work for you. Ask for the jewish site testing. Ask for even if you've been on medication for a long time talking about the s you know there are other ways to go about it than just constantly saying in that cycle of pill after pill after pill with no results there. There is light at the end of the tunnel. So don't be afraid to say. Hey i think this might help me. What do you think. Don't wait on them. The second one i would say is. Don't let the stigma prevent you from seeking help Let's there is nothing wrong with you. If you have mental illness nothing like innately wrong review. You are just a person who is struggling and number three. I would say no that you are not alone like you were saying that article fifty one percent of young americans. This isn't even us. The older americans during these are young americans who were struggling. You're not alone. find group. fine fine started group. It right to you know. Don't don't stay alone either. When you isolate yourself things. Things often get worse so definitely seek out others who may have similar problems going on that you can talk through to to have some sort of accountability with and accountability is huge. It is huge and those are the three big ones. But i wanted to add one more. And it's something that i've done personally and it has to do with what i was talking about with social media and it's so funny because our pastors just said at this sunday delete block. You do not have to look at sally. Suzy sampson's and wish it was yours. Delete her blocking her. If if watching her highlight reel is taking your joy. Delete her if mr man who has it all together all the money all the muscles and the most beautiful wife you've ever seen if that stealing your joy delete him bought him because you need to focus on you and yours is so good. That is so so good so patricia. It is been an amazing conversation with you. I wanna thank you personally. Thank you for your courage to come on the show and talk about not just health in general but your own mental health your own struggles with the diagnoses. You know you've had hospital stays as a result had so many things going your life and so thank you so much for talking about this important topic with us you know. We all have a lot of questions but the most important question you can ask yourself is. This have accepted the forgiveness of sins. That only comes through faith in jesus christ and before we go one thing. Patricia wanted me to point out was earlier. she referenced. cpt. St and she called it childhood. Ptsd it is actually complex. Ptsd would she informed me of later in complex. Ptsd is brought about from long term trauma that might be physical emotional sexual abuse own going childhood neglect things like that. It could even be a prisoner of war type of situation that brings about complex. Ptsd so just clarification. There that that was what she was referencing in the second. Half of the episode. You may have heard probably did hear a lot of clicking in the background while that clicking was my burien husky running around on a hardwood floor and unfortunately we can't edit that out he just kind of made a cameo appearance on the podcast so that dog is the way i deal with my ptsd and depression having a pet. It just helps a lot so anyway. Thank you so much for listening. It has been a joy sharing our hearts with you today. Be sure to check us out on social media. We at facebook at courage to fight again. Instagram also occurred to fight again and twitter at courage again and check us out on our website at courage to fight again dot com a whole lot. More resources there well until next time. Thanks for listening. We served now. What is a production of courage to fight again.
Fresh update on "caitlyn" discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"You use their name. So if i say caitlyn jenner instead of she that that's still a subtle form of transphobia. Because i haven't i haven't used the opportunity because i've used the opportunity where i would normally used a pronoun tu sub it out and in doing so i have denied caitlyn jenner's i have failed to affirm caitlyn jenner's female identity right. The enlightenment liberal would tell you. Toss off with that but the post modernist with no and so you're right. The post modernist de corps substance of the post modernist are in inherently so radical social constructivism of absolutely everything right And so that is really the core. The problem that we're seeing. Because that's the thing that filters down upload so easily into a world the photoshop right that everything's just socially constructed justice uploads so wonderfully in simply onto the internet. That kind of of nitpicky kind of two thousand sixteen era tumbler activism. Uploads really easy when you just want to reinterpret everything and say this really means this. This really means this that kind of stuff uploads so simply into that world right. Yeah and that's where it kinda can take off in a way that slow careful. Rigor doesn't really take off right. Like i can take a meam of so somebody said I can't remember who it was but if you know what a diminutive is like when i say my cat. Who's a good boy. That's a diminutive that's my. that's my italian dominion which. It's a little like q little little bigalow. So the post modernist person comes along and says i deconstruct gender binary all all the time but i always taught my boo boo kuboi because genders just a diminutive linguistic construct. That's that's it to them and they've reinterpreted the whole thing and you go look at that and you say i see how you did that. It's complete nonsense. But i see how that word. Yeah i see what you're doing there. It's just endless. Endless reinterpretation of the signs and symbols. Because that's the entire world the discourse in which they live in right so everything is just discourse so when the enlightenment liberal says i believe that there are facts about the world that are that are indubitable. That are true. That are correct that there's something that we can contact with immediately are all already stepping away because what the post modernist is going to say. You're gonna say no no. No you're filled with so much bias and you're filled with so much a a longing for power and and nothing that you say can be taken at face value and you're badly motivated so we have to deconstruct your motives and and you've been socialized in and so by the time they're done there's no stable correct two or absolute sentences because every sentence that you could have been reinterpreted anyway right. The world is constructed in systems of power right scientists just a system of power. Now you might want tip a hat to fulco a little bit and say some of the people who.
"caitlyn" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"And childbirth. Every day black women die because the system denies our humanity. It denies us patient care. I sit before you today. As a single mom as the nurse as an activist and as a congresswoman and i am committed to doing the absolute most to protect black mothers to protect black babies to put carl tech black birthing people and to save lives as far as i know corey. Bush supports abortion. So i don't think she cares at all about black babies in terms of the birthing people. It's a birthing person. Oh a woman. That's but you're not allowed to say woman anymore because the left embrace transgenderism and guess what if the conservatives go all in on caitlyn we are implicitly. Even if we say we're not we are implicitly. Embracing that kind of language to she. This woman corey bush. She might be even to the left of aoc though afc had a pretty wild line. I have to get to it before the mailbag. Aoc is out defending planned. Parenthood for saving lives. She begins she says conservatives. I don't want to hear about planned parenthood when you support the death penalty first and foremost. I don't want to hear a single person on this committee or outside of this committee. Talk about what about valuing lives when they continue to uphold the death penalty when they continue to support policies that disproportionately incarcerate and lead to the deaths of black men and people throughout this country and uphold in a in absolutely unjust medical system that exists for profit that allows people to die because they can't afford to live pause right there. I don't have a lot of time. So we'll do this quickly. Executing convicted criminals is different than murdering innocent babies. The us justice system over it intentionally incarcerates criminals. That's what they go for. If if some groups commit crime at higher rates that ain't the cops fault that ain't the system's fault at the problem but it ain't the cops problem and third. The united states is the best health care in the world. That's why people from other countries that allegedly a better healthcare when they want good healthcare they come to the united states and then she goes on her her real point in addition to that if we to talk about planned parenthood. Let's talk about. How many lives planned. Parenthood has saved. And how many babies have been born because of the prenatal care provided by planned parenthood. And if you don't if you don't believe it and if you've never met a planned parenthood baby. I'm happy to let you know that. I am one and that my mother received and relied on prenatal care from planned parenthood when she was pregnant with me and so if we're concerned about life we don't get to talk about anyone else who's not concerned about the full spectrum of that when we are upholding policies that killed people. So that's obviously preposterous argument. She's making if a really. Her mother did go to planned parenthood at various times. I i have no reason to believe that because afc lies all the time but if that's true with aoc slipped through the cracks of the schools at at planned parenthood. That's good good for her. That's a that's a good story. The the fact is that planned. Parenthood kills hundreds of thousands of babies a year. Their business is abortion. If accidentally some woman walks in and they don't they're not able to get their fangs into them and and convinced them to kill their babies. That is a happy accident that happens a planned parenthood but the arguments making here is if you don't oppose the death penalty you can't. You can't oppose abortion not true if you don't support socialist medicine. You can't oppose abortion not true. You can you really can't you don't need to fall for the traps that the left is laying before you even when that involves candidates on our own side that are that are. I think tricking us wittingly or unwillingly into into accepting a lot of three dangerous leftist premises..
"caitlyn" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"Omar bigger. I can't wait to a clerk. I understand that's like if you call. It opposed enter. Don't do it when i never. I have the right to be pissed about. It says simple need to be held accountable for cheap trans people. But i'm not going to put up with your your don't pro slurs pieces so this guy obviously should not be in a chicken shop. He should be in a padded cell. Not in his right mind if conservatives mainstream caitlyn jenner then that crazy guy is right then the guy throwing the big fit screaming the words that guy is in the right and the popeye's employees if they called him sir or whatever. They're in the wrong because we will be tacitly but but clearly accepting the premise that a man really can become a woman. And so when you even beyond the guys freaking out and pop is when you hear these these promises we'll look. We support gender ideology for adults but not for children. What are you talking about. That doesn't make any sense either. A man can become a woman or a can't become a woman if he can become a woman. that's true for children just. It's true for adults if he can't become a woman that's true for children just as it's true for adults it's not even a slippery slope. It's just just your there. It's just the same thing and so we can say no no but we're gonna protect children from this. Why if it's true. Then why would you protect children from the truth. And if it's false why would you mainstream it. Why would you embrace that. You think you think that. I'm talking to those conservatives. Who want mainstream caitlyn. You think that you can just keep these these declarations about reality totally private. What you're embracing is the anthony kennedy view that at the heart of liberty is the right to define our own conception of existence of the life. This is what antonin. Scalia mocked as the sweet mystery of life passage from the ridiculous. The decision planned parenthood versus casey by the supreme court which i talked about at length by the way my upcoming book speechless in controlling minds. Available now for preorder. The you obviously you do not have any right to define your own conception of existence and reality reality has the right to to impose itself upon you because also if you have three hundred million people defining their own concept of reality than you. Do you have an insane asylum nation right you. You can't actually have a nation. 'cause we have to agree on certain things we have to be at least playing theoretically in the same in the same game here and reality doesn't change just because you wanted to change you. Think you can keep these things private but the your private act this is where the radical left actually gets a pretty right. Your private actions do have an effect on public life but we hear from the left and we hear from the republicans they say. Oh just mind your own business. Just hey if that guy wants to make a nuisance of himself in popeye's mind your own business well. Those guys in popeye's were minding their own business but that guy wouldn't let them mind their own business samantha. B just made this point. You don't think that a man should wear stilettos. Mind your own business this year. We're seeing a tidal wave of transphobic legislation targeting kids largely in retaliation for president biden's executive order to protect trans rights. Conservatives are staging a coordinated attack on trance. Kids by making up a problem that absolutely doesn't exist most of the legislators who sponsored anti trans bills this year can't even cite a single instance where trans girls competing in. Sports has caused problems. Rather these laws down from the very incorrect misconception. That trans women are not women. They falsely claimed trans women automatically have more testosterone therefore more muscle mass than ciswomen but studies. Don't show a consistent relationship between testosterone and athletic performance so why are conservatives actually targeting trans athletes fearmongering baby just like with the bathroom bills. Republicans are trying to scare their base into voting for people like governor. If life didn't go well pat. Stay jack let's be real conservatives. Don't actually care about this. They just wanna politically profit from excluding trans people from yet another public space at the end of the day. Republicans need to stop policing other people's bodies mind their own business and let trans people live their lives. Yeah just mind your own business. Obviously factual claim she's making. You're just completely wrong. The idea that there's no evidence that there's ever been an athletic issue here. There's a court case at the supreme court right now. it's working. Its way up the courts that the alliance defending freedom is working out. I think we've talked about on the daily wire quite a lot. So yes it has. It has happened many times. The idea that the anti anti trans bills are infringing on trans rights. No the question is what is the definition of a person these republican. They don't really care about this. They just they just want our harm people they just to ma. You should just mind your own business with the are on this. Why don't you mind your own. Business samantha b. Mind your own business. We're here we've been the society now in civilization for i don't know Ever just about forever. We've we've been from primitive man all the way up to this alleged height of civilization that we're living through right now. We have always at all times everywhere. Believed the men are men and women are women so just mind your own business and if you you disagree with that reality them to stop pushing this on me. But this has nothing to do that. This has nothing to do with minding your own business. 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Caitlyn Jenner Releases First Campaign Ad for Governor of California
"Finally have something from caitlyn jenner. It was apparently introduced on abc news. This morning it's a near three minute video ed for her run for governor. Here is the audio. I've always been a trimmer. California was once the envy of the world. We had what everyone else wanted. The american dream grew up here and their policies have destroyed that dream. It's been locked away closed. Shudder left in the dark burned down. The government is now involved in every part of our lives. They've taken our money. Our jobs and our freedom california needs a disruptor a compassionate disruptor came here with a dream forty eight years ago to be the greatest athlete in the world. now i enter a different kind of race arguably my most important one yet to save california. I wanna carry the torch for the parents who had to balance work and their child's education for business owners who were forced to shut down for pastors who were not able to be with their congregation for the family who lost their home. In a fire burn entire generation of students who lost a year of education. This past year has redefined our career politicians as elitists and the people of california as the warriors the kings and the angels. We never take kindly to glass ceilings here instead shatter the trailblazer the innovative california's facing big hurdles. Now we need leaders. Were unafraid to lead to new heights. Wipe unafraid to challenge and to change the status
Caitlyn Jenner Faces Backlash, Opposing Transgender Girls Playing Women's Sports
Caitlyn Jenner Says Biological Boys Shouldn't Compete in Girls' Sports
"Happening now Caitlyn Jenner, giving her thoughts on transgender athletes participating in high school sports. Caitlyn Jenner says she didn't expect to get asked about this on our Saturday morning coffee run, but that she's clear on where she stands. This is a question of fairness. That's why oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls sports in school. Many conservatives have spoken out about this and response to President Joe Biden's executive. Order that bans discrimination on gender, identity and school sports and other places. In March, Mississippi became the first state this year to ban transgender athletes from competing on girl or women's sports teams. Critics say this type of legislation hurts the health and safety of transgender Children and that they deserve the ability to play organized sports and to be a part of the team. Just like other kids boxes. Christina
"caitlyn" Discussed on Lovett or Leave It
"Yep she was the lady bug. Caitlyn jenner twenty twenty one. Yes and she was also on the masked singer apparently. She got eliminated pretty quick. Let's hope that foreshadowing agreed gallagher. The watermelon smashing comedian two thousand. Three rats who bob sagging masked singer correct and finally mark mcgrath of sugar. Ray two thousand three. He was the orca on the masked singer. Oh morocco i will say. I think you did fine. You got stronger as you went. But on the whole i'm still gonna give it to you. You won the game. Thank you so much for playing and Let's keep these people on the singer. The governor's mansion. I think i'm on it. My dog and i are on it. We are in solidarity with you and pundit thank you so much everything. Thank you so when we come back one that i know. Don't go anywhere. there's more of love it or leave it coming up and we're back because we all need it this week here. It is the high of high love in crew. This is carrying an obgyn easter not carolina. I wanted to share my for the week since two thousand nineteen When i took care of a piece in who just does my heart into a million pieces as advocating for a bill that would put limitations on the use of restraints on who are incarcerated while pregnant in our state and There have been a lot of the other groups in the advocating for this for a long time and the right sequence of events took place and it was actually introduced to the north carolina. General assembly Last monday and has received really warm. Bipartisan support since that time it's going to be heard in committee hopefully and hopefully we'll keep moving through the general assembly so i'm really hopeful and thanks so much for your show and everybody who's fares uplifting things it's been really really wonderful p. cares. Pay john calling him. As my. I know this few in spokane washington and i'm hopeful this week because i just got back from now george protest in march for our house list neighbors. It was called humanizing. Spokane documentaries go along with it. It's run by a bunch of college students and it's amazing to see what people can do when they fight for something local so there's vans are limiting single family zoning fighting for tennis rights getting public facilities for basic human dignity so Hope listeners and papers the most classes two and never high level is in denver colorado. I was just calling to be my high note for me yesterday. I received my divorce. Decree making my divorce finalized which i know some bleak but i am so excited to be out of my eleven year. Abusive relationship and i am finally free So that has been what's been giving me hope and i'm very excited Love your show thank you bye. Hi don. I'm up the dishes living in philadelphia and i wanted to share a with you today. I have a two year. Old daughter named zoe and though is not an artist i started to her favorite literary characters inside chuck during our community as a way to lift fares during neighborhood organization will be designing street girls in the to improve traffic safety near the school. And my idea that the church from children's literature was selected. I'm really is potentially fun and lasting mark on the city and to honor my mom. Who's a children's library first traffic safety then. I don't think was four things for all that you do. I love it. My name is ben trays and My i note this week is that i am driving home three hours from spending the weekend with biological family. I'm thirty two next week. And then last october after search research teams search trying to find them and they have been nothing but warm and tian and welcoming and wonderful and This this last weekend we're all finally vaccinated. We got together. And i got to hang out with my bio mom and grandma and my and my two half siblings and some other people that are not a hundred percent. Sure i'll everyone knows them. But it was just a wonderful weekend of payoffs and love and happy and a little bit. Sad from some other insinuating circumstances. I think that Being able to all be together helped everyone out with all of the other things going on in our lives so it was just. It was just fucking wonderful and i really really happy. Thanks for the show and this wonderful little segment you do at the end. I love it a lot. thank you bye. I'm really glad we do these high notes by the way. I think we'll keep doing you know. I don't think we should ever stop doing it. And if you want to leave us a message about something that gave you hope. Call us at two one three two six two four four to seven. Maybe someday someday soon gets in person out high notes you know. We'll be live again thing about. That's my high also one note. 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Caitlin Drown: What Exactly Is Climate Neutrality, and Why Is It So Important?
"Are recording this episode. The day right after early two thousand twenty one and if you have not heard governments organizations pledge to the carbon neutrality our reach net zero emissions before you must have heard something about it this week or yesterday at least you must have also seen at least one of the amazon ads in companies comedian to be net zero carbon across the entire business by two thousand and forty apple in start is planning to become carbon neutral by two thousand thirty including its light. This all sounds good on the certify on the surface but is it good enough really why carbon neutrality is important in. What does it actually mean. So today i'm thrilled to be announcing the brightly is working with climate neutral and nonprofit organization. That is helping us. Work towards carbon neutrality by measuring removing out two thousand twenty missions and coming up with an action plan to reduce future emissions. and so very Where chatting with galen john's from climate neutral steam today to dig deeper into all disturbs. And what exactly they mean for you and the planet caitlyn would love you to introduce yourself to our listeners. I think you so much for having me on caitlyn drama and ended up brand engagement manager over at climate neutral. So yeah let's talk about. Climate neutral are relatively new organization. But you know. I mean you with connected over a year ago completely different live it was before the pandemic you guys go so much. You sign up so many brands so tell me what was kind of the ethos inspiration. The driver behind creating climate neutral. And how you work with brands. Can maybe even you as a glimpse of your future plants now absolutely so. Climate neutral is an independent nonprofit organization. In we're really building consumer standard for carbon each holiday. We are founded in february twenty nineteen ride a sounders of peak design violate which are two brands in the outdoor space and they have both gone through the process of making companies carbon neutral in realized that for this to scale to the degree that needs to to have him impact on climate carbon neutrality. Needed to be more accessible for companies all shapes and sizes so the two founders teamed up in found the climate neutral again just over two years ago in since then we've really grown to build out a three step certification process that companies go through each and every year in. It's the same process for all companies. They have to measure their carbon footprint. All the way up the supply chain down to deliver to their
Caitlyn Jenner Announces Run for California Governor
"London Former Olympian reality TV star and prominent transgender activist Caitlyn Jenner has launched a beautiful California governor. North America correspondent Catherine Dis reports, Republicans have been pushing for an election to unseat the Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, giving he mishandled the Corona virus pandemic If the recall vote proceeds. Caitlyn Jenner, a longtime Republican, has declared she'll enter the race. Celebrities running for office in California is nothing new. Voters have previously elected Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ronald Reagan. Miss Jenna supported former President Donald Trump early on when he ran for office, but withdrew her supporting 2018 after his administration repeatedly attacked
Caitlyn Jenner Files Paperwork to Run for California Governor
"With your top local stories. Caitlyn Jenner is running for governor of California. The Republican made it official today by filing paperwork as Democratic governor Gavin Newsom faces a potential recall election. Jenner went after Democrats for the way they've governed the state. She described Newsome's time in charge as disastrous and criticized him for Corona virus related lockdowns. Transgender woman noted She's been calling California home for
Montana’s Blackfeet Tribe Provides COVID-19 Vaccinations at Border Crossing
"Within days montana's first confirmed covid. Nineteen case black feet nation declared a state of emergency and closed down. Now it's leading the way in vaccinations empire part of this two part story. Yellowstone public radio's caitlyn nicholas reports on how the tribe was successful quickly. Its vaccination effort a ninety five percent. Vaccination rate is much higher than the rest of the country. Several factors made this possible. Vaccines are coming to black feet. Nation from two sources black feats travel health department receives allotments through montana's health department while the to indian health service units on the reservation receive another allocation from the federal government but brittany racine a registered nurse at the tribal health improvement program says the played an important role as well as the fact that everyone in black feet nation was personally impacted by covid nineteen. We're such a small community and so when we would have a death we were all really impacted by it. That had a lot to do with people wanting to get vaccinated so they wouldn't lose a family member are they wouldn't put people at risk. Since march fifteenth twenty twenty black feet nation has lost forty eight tribal members dacoven nineteen rail grant is the nursing instructor black feet community college on a windy day in the feet tribal health departments. Rv mobile clinic. She's supervising nursing students distributing vaccine's grant says the vaccine rollout order was also important frontline workers and healthcare grocery stores and other high contact jobs for vaccinated. I followed by elders. I think that was really encouraging for people who didn't want to because the elders got it i. We also look to them for our guidance. They got it so that guided the younger generation to have a little more. Trust a little more willingness. Even though they were very scared grant says many were worried about the side effects of the vaccine which can include. Fever nausea and body aches. She says elders also needed to confront traumatic past experiences to get the vaccine
Justice Department Working With Tribes on Missing Persons
"The confederated sailors and kootenai tribes northwest montana have finalized their plan to improve coordination and agency response when indigenous people go missing and the flathead area yellowstone. Public radio's caitlyn nicholas reports. It's part of a national department of justice project that will be used as a model for other tribes seeking to make their own community. Specific plans see us. Kt has been developing their tribal community response. Plant since december twenty twenty. The plan focuses of identifying and updating policies of law enforcement victim services media communication and a log of community resources to streamline what happens when someone goes missing ellie bundy a cs kt council member and the presiding officer of the montana missing indigenous persons task force announced the plan's completion in task force meeting wednesday. She says one major accomplishment is the plan brings all ten law enforcement agencies. Working with cs kt into alignment our law enforcement. Agencies established a common missing indigenous persons response policy. Which is huge. The plan also establishes joint file system were law enforcement agencies can view share information on cases as well as a media lead for all cs kt missing persons communication bundy urged task force members to remember the people behind the missing persons statistics and policies. She spoke about the life of germain charlotte a cs. Kt woman who's been missing. Since two thousand eighteen. She also told stories of other missing and murdered. Indigenous people including ashley lowering heavier. Renner a black woman. Who's been missing since june. Two thousand seventeen and selena not afraid a crow teenager who was found dead in january twenty twenty. And so the numbers. I want you to consider today sixteen. Eighteen twenty twenty one twenty two twenty three the ages of these young ladies when they went missing. If someone in your family who may be that age bundy says a particularly important part of developing the response plan was inviting family members of victims to discuss. How procedures could be made more efficient based on their experiences in montana for national native news. I'm caitlyn
Jury convicts former chairwoman of Montana Native Women’s Coalition
"A federal jury has convicted. The former chairwoman of montana nonprofit of false claims wire fraud and theft from a receiving federal funding yellowstone. Public radio's caitlyn. Nicholas has more meredith. Mcconnell is the most recent former staff member and leader within the montana native women's coalition to be convicted of misusing federal grant funds to benefit herself and others. The coalition's former executive director cheryl lawrence and ex board member barbara day chief pleaded guilty to stealing funding from the coalition earlier. This year the montana native women's coalition seeks to support native american victims of sexual and domestic abuse the montana. Us attorneys office argued that over a four month period in two thousand seventeen. Mcconnell is responsible for the mishandling of more than ten percent of the nonprofits grant funds. Mcconnell pleaded not guilty to all charges claiming her signature was forged on a number of incriminating documents following the federal jury's conviction mcconnell faces a maximum of twenty years in prison a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar fine and three years of supervised release. She has not yet been sentenced for national aid of news reporting for montana. I'm caitlyn
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"caitlyn" Discussed on On with Mario Interviews
"Well i told the kids that i wanted. I wanted to get to thirty grandchildren you know. Yeah the girls. Were too excited about that right. Mind you know. I have Over at Genetic and were step and so if you have kids saint three apiece. That's thirty short rancho But you can figure it out. One might have war one might have to So it would average out reappeared. Yeah so that is really think about realistic to think about. That's beautiful that's awesome Kaley also part of the new sitcom called duke of the valley. What can you tell us about that. You're you're are you able to discuss. Where did you hear about this. I little bird told me we have a crack staff is urge straight. Here is that. Is that something you're able to talk about or no. I mean out pitching it right now. Is your friend of mine. Vincent pat and a. We've been friends for over thirty years. He wrote this. You know this is during the pandemic and He was writing in. Wrote this script at for a sitcom and course wrote a character in there for me heather and so even in the middle of the sit on our middle of this pandemic with to get permission on my got rid jump through so many hoops. But we're able to shoot it and yeah it's really funny So bayrock shopping at right now awesome framework to go. It'd be my character is off the wall so much fun. One thing about about playing a character is you go over the top and have fun with it. normally. I gotta be myself. that's boring. Those are the those are the best guide. Well speaking of the pandemic. We know you're into golf. How's your golf game. Four very good right. Now thank you for axelle some. So you've been able to keep up with it again. I too much time over this pandemic on the golf wows outside. I have an air. Yeah i got an airplane flying. I do a lot of fun stuff. So that's about the only thing you could do yet but the ask pretty good pretty good right now. Now even surprise himself k. Them before. I let you go going to put you on the spot with some questions. Quick answers.
"caitlyn" Discussed on On with Mario Interviews
"Watching my grow. I mean for american best. Which one you wanna be able to guide your kids. Give them guidance. Help them along the way so they can go out into the world and be okay and to watch that progression throughout the years starting especially again on caddy so young. It's just amazing to see where they're at today Is i. i couldn't be more proud. I know you're great. Kids their kind air good citizens you know their successful business people. They have tremendous work advocate They weren't so. Are you know so hard. And they had a dream and they went after it. I remember kendall saying she was like fourteen saying victoria. Secret mall and i look at her and i took freight on that one but i like it and and i remember when she first did victoria secret. I called her up in. You're doing gonna be in the front row. You know she goes. Oh no. Dan don't royalty. This is my thing attic. Don't even your view. I will be in the front row. So it over it. You know the antecedent here duke network progression and you know kylie's obsession with makeup where she took. That and i'll be educates coordinate kimberly. They've just been you know. Great people aspirin funder walk progression. While there's no better feeling as a parent than to see your kids do well and succeed. So you gotta be my god. I can't imagine how fast feel but of course with the show. There's always certain levels of drama. Do you know if we'll see him in conyers drama. Play out in the last season have you heard. Oh boy you just mario. You just want the scoop. Tease my gradu-. I'd put it this way. I am in. I can say one thing. I am in the final season okay. That's yes the reason. Because i saw they have from all out today and i went all era and yes i did make. It made it into the final season. But as far as kim and konya i you don't have to watch. I have not seen the shop and to be honest with you. I really kind of stay away from Number one love ninety. Eight number. Two love kimberly. And i mean mrs their journey that narrow and it's for them to talk about the absolutely yes of course. How many grandkids do you have now. Eighteen what why eighteen grandkids. Wow that's awesome. that's amazing..
"caitlyn" Discussed on On with Mario Interviews
"Welcome to the show. How you doing. Can you believe in mario i. You've known me for a long time. I'll do absolutely any beloved best attitude. Anything actually you know what they had called a months and months earlier at to do the show. At the time. I was really busy. And it's such a time commit really not. I think you know it's you know. I made my name by running fast. Throwing things jumping over things and but now unfortunately with this pandemic. Everybody has called trudeau. This last year. I had nothing but tom. And you know. I always encourage my kids to take a risk. Do something different outside the box and they certainly have. And so i said why not you know i try it and let's just do it and it was it was A lot of work lot more work than you think it's going to be. I had to learn all these songs. I learned three and i thought. Hopefully that'll just get me going. Actually it was fun I work with grand. My son sears. Got his own may produces rights has got his own studio. I call greenwich I'm doing this. You know. I gotta sink in this man singer. I said you gotta help me with. And anyway i go down to his house. It would sit there and more chromosomes. That i was trying to get ready. He was great. actually a little trivia. You got a microphone area in your ear you gotta recording going in your ear so you can hear better get the timing right and so brandon did track and i could hear brandon in my ear. When i was doing. The song goes with katcha is a lot of timing sheriff's not easy. Yeah a lot of timing in it right. So i got brandon in my ear. Going bouquet cash up.
What's Behind the Rise of the Pandemic's Bull Market?
"Year ago today. Us stocks bottomed out but since that pandemic plunged something almost unimaginable happened. Wall street quickly shifted from bear to bull market setting new records along the way under center for serie. We wanted to take a look back to see how we got here and discuss where we might be headed next to do that. I'm joined by the wsj's caitlyn mccabe. She's on the market speed and is well equipped to explain all of this caitlyn. Good morning hi. Thank you so much for having me. So caitlin at the beginning of the pandemic we saw three major stock indexes plummet the s. and p. five hundred fell by thirty four percent in just twenty three trading days now fast forward all three have rebounded strongly. The dow is up around thirty three thousand mark so big picture. What played into this turnaround. Yeah so the. It was an exceptionally fast turnaround. We saw this incredibly steep and quick plunge and then it took just one hundred twenty six trading days to recover back to the february nineteenth closing level where we were before the sell off. That happened coinciding with the covid. Nineteen pandemic so. It was one of the fastest recoveries on record after such a steep plunge and i mean really the the climb back started with investors piling back into growth and tech stocks and that's carried so much of the market upward four the last year since you mentioned tech stocks. It's important to stress. These gains have not been seen across all sectors. Exactly so you know after. We reached this bottom on march. Twenty third twenty twenty. It became pretty clear pretty quickly. That investors were concentrating their money in growth stocks and big tech stocks. And so you saw big gains right off. The bat in what traders liked to call the fang stocks and so that stands for facebook apple amazon netflix in google's parent alphabet which spells out the acronym fang and these companies are so large and they comprise so much of the snp that was helping push the s. and p. five hundred up but you weren't just seeing growth and big tech. You're seeing of course you know Traders really interested in in companies like tesla. You're seeing zoom. You are seeing just all of these growth in tech companies Rising because i mean one simple explanation for it is that they were the companies that were standing to benefit the most from the pandemic shopping online. You had people using cloud computing and you know video messaging software and things like that and so that was really driving the market upward. You know of course. There is from time to time rotations into cyclical stocks and more of your industrials and energy and banks. But it really was for so much of twenty twenty just the growth in tech leading s ahead and then caitlyn more recently. We've seen a stall in us stocks. The nasdaq briefly went into correction territory earlier. This month last week. All three major indexes lost ground. What's going on here. So since the start of the year. We've seen this really steep and swift move up in bonney olds and that's had a ripple effect across the market so the short version is basically that the economy is recovering people are getting vaccinated and investors are really looking ahead to summer or fall where things might be returning back to normal and so of course there have been some concerns of inflation creeping into the market and so that's driven bond yields up which has an impact on assets across the market and so investors have been dumping shares of tech companies Basically because you know higher yields can mean higher borrowing costs for for businesses and higher yields also make investors reevaluate. How much they're willing to pay for. Future earnings and because significant earnings for tech stocks are expected to come in the future. It makes investors basically question how much they're willing to pay for those earnings. So you're seeing investors pullback from tech. You're seeing quite an uptick in energy and banks and and other cyclical stocks so. It's going to be really interesting to see how long lasting trend s and finally kaylin you talk to traders and analysts as a markets reporter. What's peaking your interest for the future. I think we're in this really interesting period in markets. Where right now so much of what's happening in the growth versus value trade is very fundamentals based and people are trying to evaluate the impact that yield will have on tech stocks like i mentioned in growth companies and what that will mean for banks and energy companies and everything that we've talked about so far but then you have this whole other segment of the market that is less connected to fundamentals right now. You know we saw the massive rise in the minimum stocks earlier. This year the game stops the amc's of the world you know we have this ongoing specs craze Cryptocurrency at that market is incredibly interesting. It's just gonna be really interesting because you have these two kind of branches of the markets that are going on right now. Where there's just this euphoria in some segments and then everyone is also trying to drill down this value versus tech trade. So i'm just going to be really interested to see what happens especially in these other segments of the market as we see more interest among retail traders as we see the spac craze probably only going to continue to grow and see what effect that has on the broader market
Artist and scientist install fake storefronts in Chicago to draw attention to climate change
"In december. A new window display popped up in chicago storefront. At first glance it looks like a new bakery but when people closer they read signs promising cakes made with cricket flour and each cupcake has a cicada on top so that people have actual visual cue of. Oh that's something that's kind of weird and then they're drawn into it and read more about what is actually going on there. The bakery is one of three fake storefronts designed to get people thinking about climate change. Artists caitlyn patton created the art installations with beth ranki and ecologist at northeastern illinois university rather than focus doom and gloom. The team decided to provoke people's curiosity. Global warming threatens to disrupt food production so patton rinky imagine a future when alternate ingredients. Such as insect based protein and flowers are mainstream. These products already exist. So it's not a farfetched idea that was the thing that was really important to both of us. Is that all of these. Things had to be more realistic than fantastical. So although the imaginary storefronts are whimsical they're designed to encourage more people to engage with the serious consequences of global
Pueblo leaders meet with Second Gentleman of United States
"This is national native news. I'm antonio gonzales. In montana covid nineteen vaccines will be open to. All on april first yet is yellowstone. Public radio's caitlyn. Nicholas reports vaccines on. Tribal nations are already available to everyone. Jennifer show is a nurse. Practitioner at fort belknap tribal health department. She says they are. Well positioned to distribute the vaccine because of partnerships with indian health service and a longstanding public health nursing program that trained nine local nurses who handled contact tracing at the beginning of the pandemic girls. Were ready to go ready to start helping. Get the axing out with our population which is another plus for us. The girls work out in that area and they know how to get a hold of them. Which i think kind of helped us with getting. This rolled out so much faster as well. Tribes are also try and create a vaccination strategies show says fort belknap tribal health began vaccinating teenagers in the area. During the week of march fifteenth by partnering with local school systems both on nearby the reservation by this point teachers in the area. We're already vaccinated bubble. So you know the more. We can vaccinate around us as well as us ourselves. The better off. We're going to be trying to keep our numbers on black. Sea nation is currently reporting ninety. Five percent of eligible enrolled members are vaccinated ihs data from the pakistan and born in sioux tribes and the chippewa cree of rocky boy's reservation show a third of tribal members in these areas are now vaccinated compared to about fifteen percent of montana as a whole molly lind the tribal health director for the little shell tribe of chippewa. Indians says. The tribe has partnered with alluvial health. Great falls and is trying different. Vaccine approaches all the time instead of appointments one week. They offered an evening walk in vaccine clinic to see if that attracted members working day shifts. Were really trying to make it. As convenient as canaan for all of our members to get vaccinated vaccines are coming to tribes from direct federal allocations to ihs and sometimes through the state native americans are also prioritised under the state's vaccination plan due to higher risk of death and health complications from covid nineteen little. Shell health director. Wetland says. i really do think that tribal nation have done a really good job. It's hard to disagree. Look at montana's covid nineteen vaccine tracker map. And you'll see the dark. Green areas of high vaccination rates almost perfectly highlight tribal nations for national native news. I'm caitlyn nicholas. Group of pueblo. Leaders met with the second gentleman of the united states. Doug emhoff's last week when he traveled to new mexico part of a nationwide tour to promote the biden administration's covid nineteen recovery plan pueblo of alabama governor brian bio was one of four pueblo leaders to me with 'em hof at kua pueblo via says the trip to meet with the vice president's husband was only the third time he's left akamot pueblo in the years since the pandemic began aca has been under a number of emergency covid nineteen orders including a reservation closure bio says he shared with emhoff how the tribe prioritized elders and cultural leaders. I for covid nineteen vaccines. He stressed how the pueblo has had to put culture on the side which has been a great sacrifice. We remain rooted in our culture. that's what sustains and well we can't do we cannot practice what we not when we are not engaged in that process. It's painful and that was the case and still is the case during this time of what we are doing it because we have to protect our people file also shared with emhoff how the pueblo is continuing. Its vaccine. rollout plan everyone who is eligible every travel member every resident here. The people of alabama has an opportunity to receive the vaccine and doing all that we can also to ensure that our trouble members who do not live on the survey ship are also afforded the opportunity to be vaccinated and locations where they live one of the few tribes in new mexico working with the state vaccine distribution do its current legal battle with the indian health service over a reduction of care at a hospital on komo lands. I mean antonio
Kanye West Becomes Richest Black Man in the U.S.
"Got there. So many for the colonies the richest man in the world. I don't think he sent the richest man. There's no way the richest black man in the world. Is he, Boris? That's what Forbes said today, But I bet Chris It's 6.6 Million, which that as Chris billion million that as Kris Jenner's any man ever, yes. Xxx. I mean, she's just like the devil. But anyway, you can't even notice that Lori Yeah, I know This is the kind of stuff she thinks she's nobody works harder. Hey, her daughter's even Caitlyn Jenner get got in on it because she was on Mass on the massacre last night. I mean, they are all of it is
City residents use maps to fight inequality in their neighborhoods
"Some city neighborhoods are lush with parks and trees but others are dominated by stretches of concrete and pavement areas with fewer trees to provide shade less vegetation to soak up water. They tend to be hotter. They tend to be wetter. They tend to have worse air quality. Caitlyn goya's with groundwork usa a network of environmental justice organizations. She says these disparities result from decades of disinvestment and redlining racist mortgage lending policies that reinforce segregation and worsened inequality groundwork is helping residents in nine cities highlight the relationship between historical segregation and climate change vulnerability without a really clear understanding of the harms. That have happened in the past. You can't have a vision for the future and for how you're going to repair that harm. The group overlaid maps of historical redlining with data about heat tree cover an impermeable surfaces. Mongolia says the map. Show how the impacts of red lining persist and provide an important tool for local residents to sit down with their local government with elected officials with leaders in their community. And say you need to explain why this is still the case. And you need to explain what you're going to do to make things look a little bit different
GameStop Is Happening Again
"May be watching game stop again. today it shares skyrocketed in the final hour of trading. What prompted this late rally. We're going to bring in markets reporter caitlin austr- off into the conversation. She's covered game. Stop a lot lately caitlyn. Hey mark so kayla. Shares of game stop finished one hundred four percent higher to close more than ninety one dollars. It was hovering below fifty dollars for most of the day. What's the explanation behind this. So it's hard to say what caused game. Stop sheriffs to take off so much in the last hour of trading. What we do know is that you know you had keith. Gill saying that. He was going to double down on his game. Stop bets over the last couple of days. He's still really optimistic on the company. And that's what other people on wall street beds to say that they also are optimistic. You also had games top. Say that it's chief. Financial officer would resign next month. And so maybe that was. Also another case for people to maybe. You know think about the company's future could be different than what it had been a week ago but we don't really know exactly what causes it. You had a lot of people on wall street bat to were saying you know. They were caught off guard by sudden rise in shares and you can have big institutional players with deep pockets who can more easily move the share price who may be just doubled down on their bets that we could see games top perform
Former top aide details sexual harassment allegations against New York Governor Andrew Cuomo
"It is and what I was saying before. It is kind of a threat thing, But I worked with the guy that every woman referred to his creepy Joe, and he was a perfectly nice guy. But do we all know him? Is he? No, No, no, no, no. This is years ago. Those corporate America years ago. Not not that show. Not the one of the oval. Okay? No, no, no, no, no, not him. He's perfectly lovely. Um But like he would say to me that I had to work with Joe and he would be like he would always comment about all that such a nice dress. You're wearing something like that, But it was just the way that he said it would make me feel like alright, back off. Big guy, You know, like it just was the way, he said it was another co worker. A male co worker could say what? Why you look really necessary, but thank you because it was the way they said it. It's the vibe. It's the total vibe, but I don't know how you fix that vibe. Guys, I don't know. But if you're creepy, your creepy The heavy breathing is kind of a giveaway. Oh, if a woman looks you goes, I think we should take a shower. Now you're probably that guy. So now, of course, Cuomo's AIDS or denying that this happened. They deny the claims because she was very specific when she said she was on that plane in October, 2017 and and who was on who was seated next to her, she wrote, As I said that his press aide was to my right. A state trooper was behind us. Well, Cuomo's press secretary, a woman, by the way, kid. Caitlyn Garrard. Gerard dismissed the allegation, she said in a statement. As we said before Miss Boylan's claims of inappropriate behavior or quite simply false, and she cited flight logs detailing Cuomo's plane trips in October of 2017 and said there was quote no flight, where Lindsay was alone with the governor, a single press aide and a New York state trooper as she claimed in the block post, And she also cited a joint statement from several former aides who shared flights of the governor and Boylan during that period, who denied the That occurred as she described. We were on each of these October flights. This conversation did not happen. Yes. So that's all a lie. That's a complete lie. The statement itself is alive. Why it's provably alive. In fact, Lindsay Boylan, in her statement, never said she was alone with those people on the flight. She never once made that allegation. The Congress. The governor's office is inventing an allegation to knock down this is a strong man, Lindsay Boylan never said she was alone. With the governor, a press aide and in New York state trooper. She never said that there was nobody else on that flight or anything like that. The governor's office releases a statement claiming well, there were more people on that flight, contrary to what she claims in her block. Plus, she never claimed that never for a moment. The only thing she claimed, was that the press aide and the New York State trooper were near her. When the governor suggested that they play strip poker. That's the on Lee thing, she alleged. So even in the defense here we see dishonesty come out of Cuomo's office immediately. Their first instinct is to lie. Yeah, well, this sexual harassment working group, which is an organization formed by seven former New York state legislative employees who witnessed or experienced harassment in the state's political landscape. I have called for an independent investigation enter out into her allegations, and you have Congresswoman Elise Stefanik calling for Cuomo to resign. In the wake of both of these scandals with the nursing home handling with coronavirus deaths. And now this sexual harassment allegation as well, she said he has earned the title is worse Governor in America and now every New Yorker knows that he's a criminal sexual predator. And she said, You know, I called for this when these allegations came out in December on December 14th that was one of the first and on Lee elected officials in New York state to call for an investigation.
Alaska tribes await word from FCC about broadband licenses
"This is national native news. Tony gonzales alaska. Tribes are awaiting word on scores of wireless broadband licenses by the federal communications commission. It's part of a push to improve internet access and underserved communities a startup called alaska. Tribal spectrum received a one hundred thousand dollar grant to register as many alaska tribes during the final months of last year's application period gym berlin. Heads the keybase nonprofit which has signed up nearly seventy tribes mcnally commission were set up to create a recreated website in an application process to make it very very simple to join the consortium application and get as many as many tribes to grab a hold of for free asset before before the window closed any unclaimed licenses will go to auction to private carriers berlin says it was a big push to get rural tribes with poor internet to enroll on their website and the struggles. They had were told the craziest stories. You'd ever wanna hear trying to get their application in some of them. We ended up faxing in in in in to get an in Somehow to handwrite it. You know and do paper applications. I mean it was. It's so challenging. One of those tribes as douglas indian association near juneau kamal lint off says the trip was happy to get assistance. We had no clue. You know what this really was. And then no clue on how to how we manage it or even get started We had probably a couple of different places contact us and we kinda jumped on board with that one stinking. I was all we needed to do. Some of the applications overlap the douglas tribes applications for coverage in an area also claimed by central council of clinton haida indian tribes. Overlapping claims are being negotiated. Tribes will still have to pay for infrastructure. The cares act created a one billion dollar broadband fund tribes can apply for alaska. Tribal spectrum has applied separately for a federal community connect grant to bring broadband service to villages and the bristol bay region montana state lawmakers heard two bills wednesday seeking to establish indigenous peoples day in october yellowstone. Public radio's caitlyn. Nicholas has more senate bill. One forty six brought by senator. Shane mauricio a democrat from missoula would replace columbus day with indigenous peoples day. Senate bill ninety four sponsored by democrat. Susan weber from browning in northern montana would also establish indigenous peoples day but does not remove columbus day. More support was shown for the proposal to remove columbus day. Even the other bill sponsor said she preferred it. But many proponents including jordan thompson confederated salem in kootenai tribal member spoke on behalf of both bills are believed that the first bill we heard today was kind of like inviting everyone to the same backyard for a barbecue. This one's more like waving at each other with fence in between so we support it. But i'd much rather be at the barbecue. Proponents of the bills spoke to the importance of celebrating. What they called true. Us history acknowledging olive montana's citizens and the harm of celebrating christopher columbus whose acts of genocide and crimes against native. Americans are well documented. No one opposed either bill. During the hearing similar montana legislation failed in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. No executive action was taken on either bill for national news and report for america. I'm caitlyn nicholas the. Us senate committee on indian affairs holding. Its first meeting of the new congress thursday. The committee will elect new leaders. Senator bryan shots democrat from hawaii. As chairman and republican senator. Lisa murkowski from alaska as vice chair cove in nineteen relief healthcare education sacred site protection and a long list of other issues are among tribal priorities. I man tonia
"caitlyn" Discussed on Comments By Celebs
"For thirty one days from the premier guys. I know and where the girls line comments by celebs. Welcome after another accident. Margaret ashi angel. I am okay. Let me tell you guys. This is the third time since march. Twenty twenty the julian. I are recording an episode in the same physical room. I can't believe it as a feel. How so lucky. I i feel really good right now. The i feel as i just wanna tell you i. We were debating whether or not to say anything but we may just be super transparent. We are having for some reason technical issues like we've never had before for the last two hours trying to figure it out so i want to apologize in advance if the audio isn't as good as normal. I don't know what else to do. It's a combination of migrant situation to be totally transparent with you guys not only. Is there construction. Which is kind of just a constant manhattan. My the neighbors of like above me. I can't decide if it's ping pong or jacks or what the deal is but there's a lot of a lot of motion happening. I think it's probably a tournament of both. Roughly you lose the pond game. Then you get to the judge tournament vice versa. Yeah i think my plan in a postcode world. 'cause i'm not really my apartment that much. I have been this last year. I'm just gonna kindly go up there. And i'm just going to ask them if they have a ping pong table and if so it would be possible to alter the hours because not we're sensitive to ping pong in you. Julie that is my dad's pride and joy. I love it. i celebrate the game. i just. It's a little frustrated here. The ball bouncing every hour of the day and night. I absolutely understand. yeah so anyway. We're here together. We're having a great time. But i just wanted to give you that warning. If it's that we really is it won't happen again. It's just we're doing the best we can right now anyway. So furthest episode were on season three episodes nine and ten episode nine of kind of just going to glaze over it. There's not too much discussed there but episode ten. We're going to get into a full breakdown but before we do that. Caitlyn jenner was actually on the skinny confidential his and hers podcast and i feel like we should spend a few minutes talking about it because i would imagine the people listening to this care the most about that i would lock show. So she's got a bunch of interesting things. But i kind of struck me was she was talking about you. Know initially decided to do keeping up and how. She was skeptical at first. Chris really wanted to do it and what they decided to do for. Kylie and kendall was any money that they would have made for the show they were gonna put into a trust till they were eighteen years old and she was saying you know. We didn't expect that to be a lot of money because we thought this is going to be a one or two season type of situation and she said that of course you know they were on the air for a lot longer and by the time they were eighteen. There was enough of a nest egg. That's actually the money kylie used desert cosmetics. Whi- which. I think we've figured i don't know if we've ever had confirmation off right. I didn't know if it was. You know exclusively that money. Which i know if you're listening to this like of course in theory. If kylie really wanted to do that. I do believe that. Caitlyn or kris caitlyn and chris would have funded. It's not like that's the only money she had. But i do think there's something to be said for that in terms of the way that it probably made kylie feel right. Yeah absolutely choose. Also talking about how when kendall was fifteen she said caitlyn. I'm going to be victoria's secret model and caitlyn saying you know. I didn't want to discourage. I didn't wanna to dim her shine but of course in the back of her mind she was thinking. You know no way and i just thought hearing. Kendall's kind of modeling journey from her. Perspective is one. We don't hear that often. The kendall modeling journey is so interesting to me because she did genuinely worked so hard to get there and there was. You know i think for all the other kids you can save their name elevated them. So much with kennel was the opposite. I can really had to work hard to be taken seriously. I think so too. I think so too. And you know if you guys remember. We saw this play itself out in one of the episodes but which was finally walking the show. She was so excited and she really didn't want her family there or that front and center and caitlyn on this podcast was talking about it from her perspective and kills noisette her. Listen i'm gonna come albeit. It's quiet as a mouse. But that kind of relationship that they have. I just i can understand how we spoken about this before but i can understand from kennels perspective. It's kind of like. I really don't wanna dim bhai moment but from caitlyn's affected it's like you're my daughter. You're living out the stream. You've been telling me about says you were fifteen. There's no shot that i'm not gonna be right exactly you know. Yeah and this to me. I thought was hands down the most interesting part of the episode. The interviewer kind of asked who she sees herself more in between kendall and kylie and personally i was expecting kendall or you owe a million resign and she says even though kendall and i have long common candles. Mary athletic wave some of the same interests. She said kylie. And i are definitely closer. And she kind of explained that by saying that i'm close with both my girls that kennels a little bit more secretive kylie's kind of like an open book and she was saying you know i'll go over to kylie's house for dinner once a week. Me and sophia. The chef could cook delicious meal and the way she was kind of making. It seem that the ease of her relationship with kylie just comes more naturally based on.
"caitlyn" Discussed on Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
"Even, transitioning, and all that kind of stuff stuff to do but picking your name, right. And I throughout my entire life struggled with that, I would watch sit there by myself and watch with a pattern of a and watch the Miss America pageant. And when it opens up, they got fifty girls coming out with all these names and I would sit down mirror kind of look at her do I like Stephanie. An ad on that does work in the next one will come up and you know from this state and and I would sit down and you know play with names and see if you can come up with something but when I was in college. there was a group at Graceland is very tiny school in Iowa actually, it's a Mormon School but. they had this group called the serendipity singers and they're really good and they had this song that I really liked the song and the name of the song was heather is my name. Oh. And at had a great be to it was fun and I kept thinking maybe that's my little calling. That's why am so I kind of had that name around for a long time never telling anybody And So. Finally gets to I had to let it go. It just wasn't. It didn't feel like it was me and I had knocked down to about three or four CAITLIN being. And I still hadn't made a decision. And I am about ready. Come out you know. And Rhonda who is my assistant at the time? She added the blow I always liked the name, Caitlyn. She is. Would you sell spell it A. I.? T. L. Y. And now. You consciously not wanting to spell it with a K.. We'll get to that cat. Scratch your way ahead of my story. Okay. So I go. Yeah. And it was out of the top three ahead. That was one way or the other to you remember like. Or this or that there was a couple of them but all kind of like that. And I just looked on I said. I'm done. That's it. In Oh okay. I'm done with this on both onto the next rob them. Did you give us. Oh, wait in yourself a middle name or no Marie just because I thought it. I. Class Jenner Y- just kind of caitlyn Marie Jenner just kind of worked. It sounded good. Although I never use the marine but. And so of course you're talking to the kids. Yeah. And names and pronouns are. You know within the community I don't care that much. But within the community they like this really seriously. Yeah. and. So. Of course Kim goes. Well. What do I call you? And I said well. By name is Caitlin. She looks at me. Happy you stayed with the case. So she really she wanted you to stay with the case, and so she says, oh I'm happy that you stayed with the KS and I looked at thought inside Oh Jesus and I said well. I'm actually spelling with a C.. S She goes. Oh why she was kind of sad. But it was you know there's gotTA BE A. Like a separation between church state. Yeah. It was too much of it would have been another day and what about I always wondered then when brody will he's no longer with his wife Dash. She was Caitlin was that ever an issue? No. It's going to be another Caitlin Jenner in the family when I first met. Brody's ex. I asked her what her name was and. I was still gross. Yeah. And She Goes Oh, it's Caitlyn and I went. Oh physiology I was already I was already going with Kayla. Okay. It was near the end I was going and the first thing I said to it Oh do you spell it with the Sierra Kay and she goes, Oh, I spelled with a K.. I'm okay. And then when they did get married and she did last and she became Caitlin Jenner. But that never was an issue. No one cared just hope I just told her if you're like the next Caitlin. Jenner. Hopefully get a good reservation somewhere. Yeah I, hope it works and use it. You know you gotTA. Yeah I know that's funny by by Fred her stepson married a woman with her name. So there's A. Chill Zahren. So then there's another Gills Aaron. There's like it's just. Yeah It's just POPs up. The old name, but for most people, you know what they say you know what they say that. kind of within the community. A good way to find out. what you should name yourself is ask your mother especially if you're older. Yeah, and if I would have been a girl, what would the name would have been? And a lot of MOMS in the old days he found out now you find out. Six weeks in seems like. Back in the days like with my mom. After I transitioned and this and that I said, mom if I was going to be girl because you didn't know yeah what was the name she couldn't remember. She asked break question I really can't remember mine was Shane. A really like kind of an Irish a shame and my mom got my name shoes at a swim meet and she heard someone say next up is Heather McDonald and she said Oh that sounds good together. And she'd run out everybody had already been named after some relatives number five she's running on the names you know come up with something fun and you're named after number five. Whatever yeah. Whatever whoever that one dive in do and do? Well, what do you? What do you think of like? gender reveals now because gender is kind of a different thing, the fact that people have gender reveals actually the woman who started the whole gender reveal the trend. Her daughter is now identifying as a boy about eight..
"caitlyn" Discussed on Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
"CARMO Maggio's later. It was finally there when I was there. Let's see. You're really kind of staking out the place like drought shifts yeah. And I would always ask is Brad here. Oh No, he's not coming into later. Here's a guy that was like a rockstar pastor. And now he's working at starbucks. And Anyway. I said Brad he remembered me and this and that, and I said Brad I said here's versus number I said I don't know what she's up to. Okay but she told me she has to talk to you. And He Goes Oh watch it is have no idea and then I said to him. But. I is a mover and Shaker I think it would be the right thing to do. So he goes Oh. Okay. Anyway falls her up. Next Day cozine with Chris and basically said Chris said to him, you're good to be sitting on the sidelines We're GONNA sponsor you Do you gotTa Start Rallying people together your supporters you have to start our own church And so it she put him on salary for six months and he started rallying all those people and we started at The first one was at the movie theater I went to the movie theater I went to. Costa Straight. had wonderful chairs at the little thing in the morning. Nobody's there. They don't do the movies too late that out. Yes. Yeah. It was actually it was a great place I loved it. It hoped three hundred, sixty four people. And that first one. standing-room-only. Wow that was really very cool and that was the start of California. Community Church and Pastor Brad Stone. And he's great and when you said in know when you finally getting to the place to actually do the transition, you said I went to my pastor too because you know this is a hard thing in you when you raise religion which I've been raised Catholic and I I always believe that you know everybody has special talents and if you don't use that special talent, it's an you to God 'cause not everybody can. You know do you or I or someone else can do I don't if they've quite used the F you. Say. Just also Gee said thinks I'm a hoot. So he's okay if I use this like, but I get, but it's like you, you know when someone is a great musician and doesn't use that talent or stops using it or pastor Brad stop using his way to reach people, and so you said there's gotTa be God wouldn't make this way if I didn't. A reason I. Think it was such a reason. I think anybody with any challenges in life. Okay which we all have. And if they have any faith in their heart whatsoever, I think so many people ask, well, why did you do this to me Is there a reason for this both and after talking to all my kids family out of that I got the last person had to talk to was Pastor Brad And Just we spent. Two hours three hours in the house funding about faith talking about God Jimmy you know why and is there a reason and you know basically when you walk up to the pearly gates and you walk in, you know You look and say, Hey, I do a good job you know and you want the hopefully say, yes, you did. And so. Even, transitioning at a later age in life that was last hurdle I had to get over. An after it was over with. I thought maybe this was his plan for me. After I've raised my children. After I've done. So many things in my life that to be able to live my life authentically. And in doing that because I couldn't do it privately it just would never report. Yeah. You have to go to a different planet at there's no place you could go. No I was thinking. Do I go to the backwoods of Alaska live there? You know I set a league, my family. Yeah. Leave Malibu for Alaska. Leave the show. Oh. Yes, but that I obviously after do this publicly but in doing. maybe I can make a difference in a and actually spent five years. I am so comfortable with myself. I can't stand it And what a difference you made there's nobody there's It changed everything it changed it changed. The World I was in helplessly to more in a lot of ways but. the community can be very tough. You know. And I went out and did a deal with MAC and we raised up a couple of million dollars started my own foundation called in a lot of markers, some friends and this and that but my own money into it and literally gave away millions and millions of dollars. To the community and they still hated. And asked me not to show up in an event that I was paying for. because some other transmitting, they were gonna go nuts and taking the place and this and that you know itself. I decided to take the foundation. And although because of covert and this and that. I really haven't done anything with the foundation over the last year really tried to raise money in this and that but we had some money left in there and Sophia. Ni- we're talking. And we thought you know we should do. Is Take what we have left in there and do a scholarship program for Trans Youth. Let's change the next generation this generations found a tough. Okay. Let's change the next generation Let's have. Trans. Doctors Trans Lawyers, you know take all these smart kids and give them scholarships get him into schools. Pay For it. So I went to a glad of bet and that's part of the the glad I went to was part of giving a scholarship to the recipients thrive and I love I love that I think that's the just Like the next step. Yeah. That's really changing the world. Yeah. Because there's I mean some just. Phenomenal people out there transfer people that have done just phenomenal things with their lives you. Can't believe it we certainly do have on the other side shoe dog problems You know we lose a trans woman color one every two weeks to murder. Suicide rates still so high some of the best letters I got at the beginning were. And even now, I'll get him once in a while is you know I was thinking about committing suicide but I saw what you've done and how brave you been I decided to be brave to our homes..
"caitlyn" Discussed on Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
"Jenner. I am so excited. I'm in the Malibu Oh, my God, what what would you even call this stay away With Caitlin Jenner, who I've known said I realized I met you right before I gave birth to my second son who is now fourteen at seventy years. I've known you and I'm very excited to have you on juicy scooped on the show for five years and this is our been avoiding this for five years. You know I have. Yeah. I've been I've been avoided other no way she knows too much. She's way too close and it's just not gonNA work. 'cause I wound up getting myself in trouble? No, YOU'RE NOT GONNA get chef travel but I am really excited to talk to you because in the last few years when you have transitioned to the Caitlyn that we know what I really loved was when you did the roast. Oh. I had so much fun with that. I love that you did the roast because I was like. This is the Caitlyn that we've always known that you've always been funny. You've always had a great sense of humor. You've always been able to laugh at yourself and the jokes were so good and it was so great and I thought it just was like this perfect nick now it's just caitlyn yeah. No, the story read the I've read the book I regret which was great. Yeah. No. When they asked to do it. The first thing they said, you know because when you transition, you joined the Trans Community and female and this and that they they kind of don't know how far they can go right and they really don't know me at all and so they sent verse script out. And I said no, we can. Yeah maybe yeah we're going to go harder than that. You know and he goes we can get you want I don't care and. So. The next one came back was a lot funnier. and. So I'm. I. Have Even. Back in the old, I've never really taken myself that seriously And so Yeah I all poke fun at myself and you know as long as there's an comedy, there is a fine line. Between. Doing something. That's funny. And doing something that hurts people and that's that's the fine line that you play. There was nothing there that I sad that hurt anybody it was funny and I think all the things that they said to me even though some of them were very personal it was funny in and. The joke One joke was. About I know I you know Caitlin Jenner got cut off because they don't want anymore. You Know Wipe Dickson that family. That is funny. Okay. Funny, it's not true but it's funny. It's. and. Yeah. So Blake Griffin said that one anyway. So yeah there was a lot of stuff like that. Which most people actually that joke. I'm driving down the Road Kendall calls. This is like two weeks before. And you know she knows Blake Griffin. Date. and. So Blake called her. And said I. Don't know if I can say these jokes you know I'm scared I don't WanNa be disrespectful to your Dad Yeth and Kendall goes will what's the joke and she said that Jo And Kendall was said I was just dying laughing I thought it was so funny. So she calls me. and. Says Blake just called. said, he's got this joke. He doesn't know if he can say it and I said what? What's the joke? He told me the joke and I was just Dying laughing and I said if he doesn't do it off, he's in trouble. That's why when he did say it, I had a glass of wine. Of course they liquor you up when you're up there right had a glass of wine and toasted him yes. Oh Yeah. That was actually a lot of fun to do I. Really enjoyed it whereas it the roast of you or you're just one of the roasters. I, can't I was one of the Roasters Roche with a Alec Baldwin Oh that's right and the last one we've seen. I don't think they've done one since that I don't think they have And I, Kinda thought. It was I thought the whole roasted more than Alec Baldwin. That's why don't you remember s why I literally thought it was yours I'm trying to remember. Your parts were so funny and so memorable and like show refreshing and I think that people what I always loved is from the moment we met and we met because were doing skating with celebrities Shane with stars or something stadium orders and and I. Was Friends with Jillian Barberie and she was on it and so Chris. was like we're going to have a viewing party to watch the show. Now is the first time I went to your guy's house which was the old Calabasas. House the small one. Yeah, and the girls were really little and I thought that was so fun that you know you would invite all these people over there were so many like small parties and gatherings in the beginning years of keeping up with the Kardashians when we would watch the premiere of the season go over on a Sunday night we'll. We'll have some food brought in and we watch these shows and it was you know it was so fun and then myself being on Chelsea lately. You're our first guest. We did not have guessed. You find out remember this. We did not have a gas for Chelsea lately and I'm. One of the writers producers and the executive EP goes we can't get anyone for the show. Who Do you know and I'm like I would show I go so. A sucker I go I know Jennifer Coolidge I know Marlin. Wayne's got it and you're like and I go but also I said, you know the crash are starting their show Let me see if I can get reuss unlike I knew, Bruce, if you let Chris come along. Because at that time. Only. We only know you we only you.
"caitlyn" Discussed on Comments By Celebs
"This being thing caitlyn who knew you trendsetter you when when people talk about like caitlyn's peak fame and her being an american hero this is the olympics that they're referring to the nineteen seventy six one okay there listen there were so many awards in her life and i want to pay not them without getting too into it but after you know this this massive achievement in eighteen seventy six she received the james e sullivan award as the top amateur athlete in the the u._s. and was also named the associated press male athlete of the year. I mean tell me if you think this is a bold statement. I would say at this time. She was the most popular athlete in the u._s. Yes think about like see it's hard because i don't kn i wasn't there. Obviously neither of us were so. I don't know the fact that had in my mind. It's like picture libra right very similar yeah <hes> she also made more money from winning a single event than any other athlete had before her and because of this this and this massive like athleticism she was the most highly sought after for advertisements and deals all this kind of stuff so she appeared in movies television. She was a sportscaster an a._b._c. t._v. And she co author two books decathlon challenge bruce jenner story and bruce jenner family fitness then the a year after she became a spokesperson for weenies brand breakfast cereal. When we post the visual outline to patriots. We're going to post the picture of this box this iconic if you in the seventies so so iconic also how the fuck did weeds become wheaties. Have you had weeds. Never they're disgusting. No offense wheaties because you're doing great and clearly museum so you guys are discussing isn't going to do anything but they're disgusting yeah. It's like if i'm an athlete. Put me on the fucking front of lucky charms immediately. I was gonna say honey nut cheerios or we're life cereal life cereals my favorite cereal. I know actually do this thing. When we're hi. We're like okay. We're going to prep for the newlywed game like in case we're ever ask these questions so like i know all these random facts. That's better that will never have to answer the god forbid in case i ever have to like what's my favorite song. I don't know what is it. Hey mama oh gosh although bill raising your head in the corner. Why don't you go share notes factory next week interesting about this was that <hes> not fast too much but when kayla came out as a trans woman in two thousand thousand fifteen general mills obviously makes wheaties released a statement saying and i quote bruce jenner continues to be as respected member of team wheaties but after you know the statement obviously was not taken well men with good intention but the pronouns.
"caitlyn" Discussed on Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
"Kyle com. Listen, you yes promotion for myself. I love it. Love it love it. I can with K. I actually wears me very similar that wanted to Caitlyn Jenner assured. That's very little. Have you seen this mature for me? And it's a little cookery, but with this white jacket, it's kind of stunning. Look at those. But. No, non waste intention. And I are similar Jezek, exactly similar hair. We're both tall shirt that I was where. Yeah, just like heathers. You know, that Caitlyn originally without that her choice of name with Heather really, yes, I guess she was gonna pick Kaelin before, you know, those what name should obey guest Caitlyn. Because I use I know I deduced you are. I'm thinking of an animal, what thing of pag dolphin. Anyway. Trivia trick. It's more like I predict like celebrities futures. Okay. So I can I did kind of predict psalm west as the name that's Kim's latest babies all new predicted. Well, I said, it would be religious, but I thought it would be disciple and Saipem for short, but it was home to close enough so they get you back together with Kaelin. So, so you were just talking about, oh, you're how you've chose the name Caitlyn. How you thought it would be Caitlyn. Yes. Just because I thought it would be down the middle like female name, I thought cater Kaelin's, because that just to me seems down the middle. Did it ever bother because it's really bothered me that Caitlyn son Brody Jenner had been dating a girl named Caitlin for six years prior to didn't know that Bruce choosing the name caitland? And he has since married Caitlyn. Oh. And so there are two. Caitlyn jenner's family. I didn't know that. I was very selfish of Caitlyn. She did the thunder. There is no way that Caitlyn jenner's senior ever. I don't think approached Brody or the girlfriend said, hey, I'm really in love with your name. Maybe this come kailua right though. And tell me if because what, what would she say, if someone came to me and said, I love the name, Heather while I would want it because I'm trying to get my name out there. But I mean, I think maybe she didn't realize but every time that the other Kaelin gives her ide- says her name, it's gonna be a whole conversation, but he but she Caitlyn Jenner senior did shoes it with a C and brody's. Caitlyn is K. Okay. But then when you so what your name Caitlyn Jenner? It's a whole, you're, you're putting that on. Yeah. Those Heather Jenner and other Jenner. I don't know if that flows. I know Heather Jenner. Yeah. It's not as good. It's not as good a falling out what, what happened, she's. No. Well, I was closer to Chris, obviously, but looking back, you know, we'd have these girl nights, and, and I feel like God you net. When I watched the show, once Caitlyn had transition, she was always drinking Chardonnay with all her other friends from like when they had the two year long reality show of all the other transgender women, they would all have Chardonnay and everything. And that's what Kris Jenner, and I and some other ladies used to have, and we would just like all women, do kick out, poor Bruce in and I'm like, oh, my God. He was just dying to be part of the group. That's the thing. It's like he couldn't have. She could have been in a more feminine environment. Torturous. Yes. Constant gig. Diabetic working at a cake shop. Yes. Every day just dying to have that. And you could for the glam squad every day or her clothes broaden everyday paraded in front of dying. And when you read the book, she, she was, like I had the best legs in the family, like shoes, a little conceited like that, when you read the book, she says things like that. So anyway, wrote the book, I read the book, I did not find her to be I thought, it'd be unkind to Chris and Chris had gone through. And, and so, you know, no, I did not reach out to kaitlin be on the show. But now I'm like, so much time has passed. They also new friends and I'm absolutely like intrigued by the lifestyle..
"caitlyn" Discussed on Small Doses
"So often, like you're talking to a bunch of people who, for all intents and purposes, don't have the same access to information as you, but yet wanna tell you that you're wrong, and that's when things go from a debate to an argument, you know, and it's like, that's when people will be like, oh, you, you don't even want to answer people because you feel like you're above them. It's like nothing. I don't feel feel him above them, how they approach this conversation has made it explicitly clear that they're not coming with bags. I'm coming with facts. I'm only saying shit in the first place because I know so why would I even have a conversation with them outside of that. And it's like when you're in that situation, I feel like you sounds like to me like you're at a dinner with friends, and you're saying something that is obvious and yet everyone around you land. I went to a similar dinner with Katy Perry and Caitlyn Jenner, and. I'm just like is anyone is ever going to really pretend like like me saying that Donald Trump could go the direction of Hitler's. Like is that is that really? So fucking farfetched really because I, I don't know if y'all were there when they said that, oh, Barack Obama could go the direction of Hitler. I'm always amazed. You know, I feel like, you know you're, you sound like somebody who's like me where like you looking around like y'all. Y'all just yards. Nothing like none of this should ever happen. And I think we can feel gaslight in those situations and when you're in a situation like that, the best thing to do in my opinion is either shut it up leave or play candy crush because you don't wanna waste your energy. One of the key gifts of.
"caitlyn" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO
"So picking up those cues very important in a work culture even with no dress code your supervisor and the person you're supervisor reports to who are both so important to what happens with your career take your cues how to dress if you want to advance at that company based on how those two people dress rather than the general dress that people have at work so the more you pick up those visual clues i know it seems trite i know it seems shallow and insignificant surface kind of stuff but that kind of surface stuff really matters in certain situations and the two it matters the most earn getting a job and getting promoted in a job caitlyn's with us on the clark howard show hello caitlyn caitlyn were you injured in an accident i'm really sorry how are you doing now much better now it was in november so well i'm glad you're doing better okay how can i be of service following your accident we finally just settled the claim and i got a decent amount of money from it because the driver was dui and so now i'm just trying to figure out what i should do this money how i should save it on hiking kind of garage without taking too much risk i have no idea what to do wow okay so i'm so glad that you're okay the dui driver did that individual end up being okay were they entered to he he was okay he was injured what about like i was he's okay as well right well i'm glad for that now hope he gets help for he's back behind the wheel so you got this settlement let's talk about what goals you have in your life because that's really key to how would be the best way to put this money to work for you okay so what is going on in your life i almost twenty five years old just graduated from college in december and are obviously currently seeking a fulltime job i hope to god pretty soon fears i obviously want to get married get house eventually want to open my own business so you have a lot of a lot of things you wanna do yet in your twenties yes do you have any student.
"caitlyn" Discussed on The IVY Podcast
"In nineteen seventy six caitlyn jenner broke the world decathlon record at the olympic games in montreal and earned the title of world's greatest athlete forty years later she captured the world's attention again when she revealed that she is a transgender woman during an abc news special with diane sawyer two months after this groundbreaking interview she debuted her new name and look on the july cover of vanity fair a cover which has become one of the most iconic of the last fifty years since revealing her true cell caitlyn executive produced i am kate the landmark series on e documenting her post transition life partnering with m a c cosmetics to donate over one point three billion dollars to transgender initiatives and became the face of the ancient m for every victory sportswear campaign caitlin was named barbara walters most fascinating person of the year in 2015 runnerup for the 2015 person of the year out magazines 2015 newsmaker of the year and one of glamour magazines women of the year she was honored with the arthur ashe award for courage at the 2015 sb wards for her transition from olympic athlete to transgender activists down and on the other and i'm thinking in the back of my head little caitlyn's thinking at the back of your head wait a second huge issue built up a character and that so bid pat so masculine and and that's not you d obv and and now was the next struggle for bread on the next you know almost forty years in april of 2017 caitlyn shared her story in her memoirs the secrets of my life co authored by pulitzer prizewinning journalist buzz vis incurred during an ivy ideas night in los angeles ivy sarah zap sat down with caitlyn to discuss her incredible journey about life post transition please enjoy our conversation with kaitlan jenner you're listening to the ivy podcast by ivy the social university we are the grad school.
"caitlyn" Discussed on 1A
"I could hide in sports up i could kind of hide as being a parent i was very good parent i raised wonderful wonderful children but then i just didn't have to deal with myself and so it's the same as sports to prove might quote masking entity to go out on the atlantic field and take on other guys and win i never thought i would ever take it as far as i did but i guarantee you i was also dyslexic kit so i grew up with a little kind of low self esteem i guarantee you that person very complicated person was living inside made must take the games and that's what made me train harder than the next person be more determined the next person because i had more to prove to myself about who am and so honestly and i think it had a lot to do with me being as good as i was being the best in the world running on it there's a lot that goes into taking something like that to that level it's more than just hard work in training and athletic ability this kind of be a reason for it and i think my reason was i was trying to just overcome myself and who i was you mentioned that the words that we use are very important and so before we continue this conversation for the benefit of some of our listeners who are still new to talking about this there are two things that we should clarify first our conversation with caitlyn gender focuses on gender identity which is different from sexual orientation transgender people can be gay or straight or bisexual or whatever to put it simply gender is about identity who you see yourself as orientation is about attraction who you see yourself with.