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Episode #1839 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

32:15 min | 8 months ago

Episode #1839 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Guys it's fill Henry for the world. Famous film show website are backstage pass. That is the subscription or website. Now, you may think to yourself well, why do I need that? Here's why forty thousand plus hours of top quality the top quality of audio of our show going back over twenty years. So if you want to hear the most original radio show in the history of man on this planet, that's one thing if you want to hear it have top quality recordings of that show be able to download that show and trade it with your friends. You can do that with a backstage pass the world famous fill ratio, and it is very reasonable baby. It comes under ten bucks a month if you WANNA get the monthly or if you'd like to go one. It's like less than seven dollars a year isn't that I believe that's right. Yes right. So it's a very, you could ask me that too. All right I've just any one of you guys. Yes through. I believe is okay. So we're all agreed it's under seven dollars a month for a one year subscription the world famous Phil Hendrie Shows I. would suggest I would encourage you if I could order you to get a backstage pass a subscription to the world famous Phil Hendrie show. There's nothing like it anywhere on the Internet. In fact, it's the greatest value online other than porn world, famous fillon ratio website and the backstage pass. Yeah. A. Very, pleasant day to you welcome to Alcott. The next step. I am Dr L. Cuts and we welcome you here to demaree and one Palmer York. We haven't joined you in quite some time. We have been involved in a great many personal as well as public issues and tasks on behalf of the next step is what is my own personal growth as a link in? The next step Welcome Ladies and gentlemen. I am here at our radio studio in one Pony York. And L. Cut. The next step is you know is a new vision a new way forward for man on this planet to shed one's ego to live without ego to live without consciousness of individual self and immerse oneself in the larger ego. The larger consciousness of life is life Panorama. Pandemic, which is the word that we hear. So many people using these days as well. They might because we should be mindful of those things that threaten us but at the same time be mindful of how the expense of life lays before us. With. Alcott the next step. L. Cut the next step. From. Marion Dr L. CUT Thank. You let Griffin into welcome to Elkhart, the next step we are grateful to the Phil Hendrie show for providing this. Place for us this platform for us on his website Philon show dot com. We are grateful for all of the cottons those who are novitiate and initiate. As, well as priest our overlords and of course. Our far-flung overseers those who move among US unseen. I wanted to go into the al Qaeda today and described to you some of the terms, the terminologies. Some of the tags, some of the references and reference points that we use. In elkhart the next step. and. Then we'd like to also give you a little bit of history. Of Elkhart so that when you are. Considering becoming part of our larger community. That, you'll be well informed and Tayo will make a decision that is we think the best one possible for you. Think, he'll call it is for everyone but everyone L. Cut. While I are L. Kuttan. M. I L. Coulda. And while you are Elkana or you L. Cut. These are questions that will be made clear to you as time progresses. At one time we were out on the. Colli redeem very blessed here in L. called the next step we have properties in big Sur California as well as it. In Colli Hawaii as well as here at one paw university at over demaree INQUI-. I was Gogo at the redeemer and Kawhi I went Globo go Bo is going Hobo. In l. cut the next step. This is went one to shed one's ego and again, this is the goal of Alcott the next step shed your ego so that you are stripped your lean and clean that is your fully spread. For Life to then consume and subsume you. And recognize your the purity of your essence so that there is no ego blocking life's energy. and. So when you are Globo or going Hobo you shed ego. In this case, you dress yourself in rags, you box cars and you drink cooking wine. l., got the next. Step. Go. No it's all done in Hawaii. Where there are previous few bucks cars as a result, you lay in the grass at laugh. And that is the beauty of Globo in Hawaii you're expected to H-, boxcars. But where are they? There are none very few and if there are boxcars in Hawaii, they only travel from one end of the island whatever island you may be on to the next. and. So you finally. Jump. Off of whatever boxcar you're on that went about two feet of stopped and the new lay in the grass. And you give it a full alcott belly up that is. Popular. ELCOCK put down. From the Al Qaeda that said to anyone working on something that looks too complicated for them is the following. It matters not how the hamster signs lease. ELKHART shutdowns. What we say we put people down. We don't mean to be cruel, but we're simply doing is stepping out any vestige of go that we see. When someone's ego rises up or does a full rise up and stick out? More if you will. Rise up and. Then, say, well, it matters not how the hamster signs lease. They are formally put down. They are formerly chastised and they slink back into the darkness of their L. Car Unit. When we say what does L. Car. One is. In possession of the devil but is not possessed by the devil. It is one is not controlled by the devil, but one is in control of one's own Deville. The devil is not fully deviled. The devil is devil and the Deville if one is Deville. Then one is almost luxuriating evil but is not consumed by it as in the Cadillac Deville. From the Okada a phrase that means one is in pain and it can be spiritual or physical pain. Half off this week. At food, bar. Another phrase, the Cada that means well meaning but dumb is. They're going to Irwindale. L. Caught the next step. There was no such thing as an official New Year. Your New Year maybe be something different from mine. So we'll simply say and it's important in Elkhart. How things are said Kabbah. That's right. See Aba Kabbah. It needs to be full-throated joyful and said once on any day, but you feel refreshed. At one time when heave nor elcock took to his bed with. His son Beaver. Assumed leadership, duties. beaver was a layabout in a drunk who officially rechristened renewal as clean as a babies as. Heave no resumed leadership and reaffirmed the term renewal. L., ever clean is a baby's stuck with younger members they insisted on using it. ebner was pragmatic. Visited beaver. Now at these states psycho unit where he was detoxing asked for a solution. But beef nurse drooling reference to the founder as heave drove Gary into a rage. As they keep elcock delivered, the accordion panics mind wipe, which is a beating using his cane and a heavy glass ashtray. beaver fell backwards onto a map of couple San Lucas. Planned destination once he left the ESPN. havener legally blind misread the map as Kaba. Seeing A. These are words for the al Qaeda. So say the Al Qaeda. L., cut the next step from what Paul University will continue. Would you like to be a member of L. cut the next step come to the next orientation in your town simply call us at one Paul University or email. We'll be happy to send you a list of meeting sites as well as times and placement. Meet Dr at Alcott find out your personal worth see if you're catastrophic and if your mind melds perfectly. Caught the next step it could be the next step for you send away for the Next Steps Mind Wipe Literature. Learning the ways forward after heroin. Senate to L. cut the next step WAMPOA. Back to cut the next step I'm Dr Elcock. Reading from the al-Qaeda this morning. Terms and terminologies. Areas of interest. As well as peculiarities in the language of Elkhart. One says they are going in. They are reporting themselves for blaspheming they'll cut. are going in for a mind wipe, which is re education with regular beatings. An example of mind wipe was a number of months ago I told a joke about Phil Hendrie being thirty but looking for. All jokes blaspheme L. caught the next step and H. E. Heaved Norelco. Alcott. Once told a joke and no one left. He was all wrong after that. By that I mean his mind had gone. My attempted, you're saying that I was black pants scared at the idea of Mr Henry being years of age and looking for fell flat and induced phone calls to the Redeemer Arch until well after midnight. No worries I was leveled thoroughly to the point where I talked with a list for three weeks. Lighting are astro gliding and Elko. Is What we call people being the figurative lubricant that slide you up into heavens pipe. What you might call back door. Attempt to con or otherwise fool the universe into thinking one way when things are actually It's an impossibility, but people are constantly gliding. Astro gliding. Going up heaven's pipe or what you might call the back door is neither positive nor negative, but it can be either effective or ineffective. However using yourself slathered Dallas. Lubricant. To go up heave Nur's pipe or that is the back end of the universe. Is L. Car. Requiring of mind wipe. And? No. Good. L. Cut the next step. The vampire. Don't cut the next step. We have no mythology that encompasses vampires. While the are buckle can be compared to the IMF or the Elf in Germano Irish literature. The closest that we have to vampires our religion I suppose would be smaller younger humans what you call children. L. Caught the next step. We believe that earthquakes, typhoons and meteor strikes are actually signs if you will that there is not enough homosexuality fornication or drug use on earth. The Universe is telling us to either get it together or die in a trailer. Is that wonderful good news from Elkhart. All will be well within the gleam. The Gleam is another word for house in Elkhart the next step. Mike West of course is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That coincides with rising or as we say in Elkhart the next step of full-float to overlord status or an cut the next step uploading. So. Better. said in elkhart speak. I would say. Like West is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That coincides with rising or as we say l. cut the next step a full float to overlord status. Or an L. cut the next step uploading. Better set an ELKHART speak. My quest is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That would coincide with rising or as we say, an L. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status. Mike West is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain that coincides with rising or as we say, an l. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status or in cut the next step uploading. Better said elk speak I would say that it happens to coincide with full float to uploading. I was reminded by overlord. Casper, Unger that my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And another six months was added after I lost my temper with Gloria, grover a tool shed one night and I screamed. I was reminded by overlord Casper hunger that my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And another six months was tacked on after I lost my temper with Gloria Grover of the tool shed one night and I screamed and forgive me I screamed the phrase fuck this Henhouse Shit. Something, I'll forever be ashamed of. ood. Credibility as a spiritual leader teacher takes a massive hit a cup lunch and an assault on the region whenever I follow back a TV comedy writer on twitter. Another earth step that's what we and L. cut the next step coal earthquakes they are earth steps ego dowse were a planet coat. Shit, and quote. We in caught the earth steps is laughable. We continue eating drinking foreign accounting. What have you we never ever a mark on it or acknowledged earthquakes don't exist. Join Twitter. L. Cut the next The presentation of thing is Phil Hendrie show and Phil Hendrie show dot COM executive by Phil for the upper incorporating all rights reserved. Cast one. This is Dr at L. Cut I realized this bill very short l. cut the next step. And so outplayed again. A very pleasant today to you welcome to. The next step. I am doctor. And we welcome you here to our redeemer and one Poem York. We haven't joined you in quite some time. We have been involved in a great many personal as well as public issues and tasks on behalf of caught. The next step is one of my own personal growth as a priest in Elkhart the next step. Welcome Ladies and gentlemen I am here at our radio studio in One New York. And L. Cut. The next step is you know is a new vision a new way forward for man on this. To shed one's ego to live without ego to live without consciousness of individual self and immerse oneself in the larger ego, the larger consciousness of life that is life Panorama not pandemic, which is the word that we hear. So many people using these days as well. They might because we should be mindful of those things that threaten us but at the same time be mindful of how the expense of life. Lays before us. With L. cut the next step. The next step. From upon your. Doctor at Elkhart. Thank you let Griffin Mental. Welcome to Elkhart. The next step we are grateful to the Phil Hendrie show for providing this. Place for us this platform for us on his website philosophy show dot. com. We are grateful for all of the all cottons, those who are novitiate and initiate. As well as all of our elise, our overlords, and of course. Our far-flung overseers, those who move among US unseen. Go into the LCA today and describe to you some of the terms, the terminologies. Some of the tags, some of the references and reference points that we use. In elkhart the next step. And then we'd like to also give you a little bit of history. Of Elkhart so that when you are. Considering becoming a part of our larger community. That you'll be well informed and jail will make a decision that is we think the best one possible for you. We think he'll call it is for everyone but his everyone elkhart. While I, R. L. Kuttan M. I L. Cuda. And while you are Elkana or you elko. These are questions that will be made clear to you as time progresses. At one time, we were out on the Colli Redeemer? Who Very blessed here L. called the next step we have properties in big Sur California as well as. In Colli Hawaii, as well as here at one university at over demaree in Kuwait. Why? I was Gogo at the Redeemer Co why I went Globo Gogo is going Hobo. In L. contact step. This is when one to shed one's ego and again, this is the goal of Elkhart the next steps shed your ego so that you are stripped your lean and clean that is your fully spread for life to then consume and subsume you. And recognize your the purity of your essence so that there is no ego blocking life's energy. And so when you are Gogo or going Hobo you shed ego in this case, you dress yourself in rags you hop bucks cars and you drink cooking wine. L. Got the. Next. Step. Go. No, it's all done in Hawaii. There are previous few boxcars as a result you lay in the grass at laugh. And that is the beauty of Gopro, in Hawaii you're expected to a boxcars. But where are they? There are none very few and if there are box cars in, Hawaii, they only travel from one end of the island whatever island you may be on to the next. And so you finally. Jump off of whatever boxcar you are on. That went about two feet of then stopped in, you lay on the grass. And you give it a full elk. Belly up. That is A popular L. cut put down from the Al Qaeda that is said to anyone working on something that looks too complicated for them is the following. It matters not how the hamster signs lease. L. Cut put-downs. What we say we put people down. We don't mean to be cruel. What we're simply doing is stepping out any vestige of ego that we see. So, when someone's ego rises up or does a full rise up and stick out. More if you will. RISE UP AND POOCH OUT. We then say whale matters not how the hamster signs lease. They are formally put down. Forty chastised and they slink back into the darkness of their car. CARE. Unit. When we say what is L. Car? One is. In possession of the devil but is not possessed by the devil. One. Is Not controlled by the devil, but one is in control of one's own Deville. The devil is not fully deviled. Unless the devil is devil and the devil if one is Deville. Then one is almost luxuriating an evil but is not consumed by as in the Cadillac Deville. From the Okada a phrase that means one is in pain can be spiritual or physical pain. Half off this week. At Food Barton. Another phrase from the Al Qaeda that means meaning but dumb is. They're going to Irwindale. L. Caught the next step. There was no such thing as an official New Year. Your New Year. Maybe something different from mine. So we'll simply say it's important in L. caught how things are said Kabbah? That's right. See Aba Kabbah. It needs to be full-throated joyful and said once on any day, but you feel refreshed. At one time when he elcock took to his bed with. His Son Beaver Assumed leadership duties. Beef was a layabout in a drunk WHO OFFICIALLY RE CHRISTENED RENEWAL AS CLEAN AS BABIES as. Resumed leadership and reaffirmed the term renewal. However clean is a baby's has stuck with younger members they insisted on using it. He was pragmatic. Visited beef ner. Now at St Psycho Unit where he was detoxing and asked for a solution. But beef nurse drooling reference to founder as heave drove heave Nari into arrange. As the evening elcock delivered the Qodian Dope Attics Mind Wipe, which is a beating using his cane and a heavy glass ashtray. beaver fell backwards on a map of Kabo San Lucas. Planned destination once he left the ESPN. havener legally blind misread the map as Kaba. Aba, these are words from the Al Qaeda. So say the al-Qaeda. L. Cut the next step from what university will continue. Would you like to be a member of Elkhart? The next step come to the next orientation in your town simply call us at one Paul University or email we'll be happy to send you a list of meeting sites as well as times and placement. Meet Dr Ed Alcott, find out your personal worth see if you're catastrophic and if your mind melds perfectly. L. Cut the next step. It could be the next step for you send away for L. cut the next steps mind wipe, literature. Learning the ways forward after heroin. Senate to L. cut the. Next step one PA NEW YORK. Back to an extent, I'm Dr. elcock. Reading from the al-Qaeda this morning. Terms and terminologies. Areas. Of interest. As well as peculiarities in the language of Elkhart. When one says they are going in They are reporting themselves for blaspheming they'll cut. They're going in for a mind wipe, which is re education with regular beatings. An example of mind wipe was a number of months ago I told a joke about Phil Hendrie being thirty but looking for. All jokes blaspheme L. caught the next step and H. E. Heaved Elkhart. Even, Alcott once told a joke and no one left. He was all wrong after that. That I mean his mind had gone. My attempt you're saying that I, was black my pants scared of the idea of Mr Henry being thirty years of age and looking for fell flat and induced phone calls to the Redeemer Ers until well after midnight. No worries I was leveled thoroughly to the point where I talked with list for three weeks. Old. Pleading are Astro Gliding Alcott. Is What we call people being the figurative lubricant that slide you up into heavens pipe. What you might call back door. Is. An attempt to con. To otherwise fool the universe into thinking one way when things are actually another, it's an impossibility but people are constantly gliding. Stroke lied. Heavens pipe or what you might call the back door is neither positive nor negative, but it can be either effective or ineffective. However. Using yourself slathered down with lubricant to go up heave nurse pipe or that is the back end of the universe. Is L. Car. REQUIRING OF MIND WIPE And No. Good. Elcock the next. Step. The vampire. L. Cut the next step. We have no mythology that encompasses vampires. While the are buckle can be compared to the IMP or the Elf in Germano is literature. The closest that we have to vampires our religion I suppose would be smaller younger humans what you call children. L. Caught the next step we believe that earthquakes, typhoons and meteor strikes are actually signs if you will that there is not enough homosexuality fornication or drug use on earth. The Universe is telling us to either get it together or die in a trailer. Is that wonderful Good news from Elkins. All will be well within the gleam. The Gleam is another word for house in L., cut the next step. Of course to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That coincides with rising or as we say l. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status or l. cut the next step up lording. So. Better said in Elkhart speak. I would say. Like West is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain that coincides with rising as we say l. cut the next step a full float to overlord status. L., cut the next step up lording. Better set. ELKHART, speak. My quest is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That would coincide with rising or as we say, an L. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status. My quest is to achieve further enlightenment an EGO train that coincides with rising or as we say, an l. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status or in l. cut the next step up lording. Better said an cut speak I would say that it happens to coincide with a full float to uploading. I. Was reminded by Overlord Casper Unger that my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And another six months was added after I lost my temper with glory grover, a tool shed one night and I screamed. I. Was reminded by Overlord Casper under my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And six months was tacked on after I lost by tempered with Gloria Grover in the tool shit one night and I screamed and forgive me I screamed the phrase fuck this Hen House Shit. Something will forever be ashamed of. My credibility is a spiritual teacher, takes a massive hit a couple lunch and an assault on the testicle region whenever I've followed back a TV comedy writer on twitter. Another earth step, that's what we L. Cut. The next step call earthquakes they earth steps ego dumps were planet coat, eight, Shit, and quote. We in L. caught Earth steps laughable. We continue eating drinking fornicated. What have you? We never ever a mark on it or acknowledged earthquakes don't exist. Joined Twitter L. Cut the next. 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Jonathan Tucker

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

1:38:01 hr | 1 d ago

Jonathan Tucker

"Who can welcome. Welcome to armchair expert. I'm dax randall. shepherd. Monica lily pad. Men are pride and joy here at armchair expert podcast before we talk about jonathan tucker who had just love. And who's our guest today. I just want to let everyone knew that. In light of ours spotify announcement which were so excited about. I just want to make it very very clear. It is free girls girl girl. it's free. it's the same price it has always been in. It's going to be the same show in it's free and interfaces awesome. There's no downside. Yeah and there's no change like it's still just uh us three in this addict doing literally the exact same. The ads that you'll hear are the same as we always do our show. They'll be in our show though we us. You're listening to extra ads. It'll be our show so it's all gravy okay. Matter of clicking one icon or another. that's the difference. We're really excited. We're really excited and we're really excited. By jonathan tucker. Jonathan tucker is one of my bras. i love him door him. he was parenthood. He was a friend of christians. And that's how we knew. And then i liked him as a bro but then i saw kingdom and he is just revolutionary in that role. He so good it's crazy. He plays a politician on parenthood. Just so if people want to use that connection. He was also in westworld city on a hill. Charlie's angels texas chainsaw massacre in currently. He's on the nbc sci-fi series debris spelt bris famously. I always say to bris. But it's actually debris so check out. Jonathan tucker my bro and now monica's bro. We are supported by sleep number. Sleep number bed. I sleep on every night. Now why choose proven. Quality sleep sleep number because a good night's rest helps boost immunity improve recovery and increase energy. You'll notice that both have really great energy right now fully recovered from my most previous workout. Immunities off the charts address. i'm healthy. 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Because your reaction to whether or not wearing a white t shirt or shirtless is frankly one of the grave problems of my life. If that's one of the bigger problems and that's it by the way the headline is not whether or not you're wearing a shirt. The headline is you appear to be. And when i'm gonna guess car buff. Based on what little. I can see the steering wheel and the headliner. I'm going to say you are in a seventy nine cadillac fleetwood. You're good you're good. You're off by a little bit but you're right on the mark. Tell me what are you. What are you in. I'm in a nineteen eighty nine cadillac. Deville was dc. It's a beautiful rich burgundy plush interior with the nice concert and one of my favorite things about this for an irish catholic is that it's got the flip for their drink right in the middle console coming out not in put it comes out for it and then the back of course has got double ash trays. And it's not just the double ashtrays that i find extraordinarily sexy. Is that each ashtray. Has its own punching later. Did you say it's an eighty nine correct. If you have the burgundy interior you know. Have a white extra of course. Of course. I know that. And also what i knows. It's got a four point. Nine liter v eight in it front wheel drive am i right. You are correct. And the other thing that's important to note is that life is all about balance. You know if you're going to drive a gas guzzling american-made made shariat of success. Also have to have solar panels on your house which i do I had limited rebate from the state of california and from my friends in washington. But i did it. Because it's the right thing and i don't consume red meat and do put the environment over my wallet frequently but i also think like hey why. Go out and buy a new car when i take a beautiful used. One throw a little money into it. Make people's lives aesthetically more dynamic and not contribute to creating new vehicles. Well again the amount you would reduce in carbon footprint by driving electric car would be far outweighed by the manufacturing of set cars. So the fact that you're just staying in a car that was built in eighty nine. You're way ahead of the game. So i applaud this effort. Thanks are you in la no. I'm up in vancouver. Oh and you have that vehicle up there. Well i'll give you the full circle of how i got into this car to have the this specific appreciation with you before the pandemic. I shot this pilot like right when things were starting to go haywire. I came back to la. They were picking up the show. And i anticipate it'd well i'm gonna buy like one of these sprinter vans. I've always wanted to live in van. My instagram is like n. a. Acting and sprinter vans or like conversion vance van life hashtag van life. I am all yeah and own. Police interceptors a fleet owner-operator. I three of them have three piece. Seventy one police interceptors. I've slept in them. And it's great so i'm going to get this sprinter van. I'm going to come to vancouver. I'm going to shoot this show. I'm gonna park it. Wherever joined like a fancy jim like equinoxes which i don't belong to burn up beautiful showers and stuff and i'm gonna shower there and i'm gonna live in my then. It's going to be like the ultimate bachelor life and then on the weekend. I'll drop it off at the vancouver international airport. Go back to lsu the kids in my wife. Well the pandemic like through many things into havoc including the van marquette mark. I mean the market for me personally. Because i can't go home so what was going to be just me as a bachelor living on the side of a river shooting. Tv show then. It became me. My mother-in-law my wife two children my dog nannies. Like children education equipment. Double coverage dubber strollers double union bottles. And tammy just everything that comes with all the wonderful wonderful things that come their family. So that's my life here now versus the sprinter van. Then so of course. I had to get a car. Pure the lease deals. Not great on craigslist always wanted to drive a cadillac and cadillac in another country. Exactly yeah yeah you've earned and the kids are in the apartment. And they're screaming and running around and dax shepard when he invites you on his podcast. You cannot have young shelter and screaming and yelling so i jumped in the old cadillac so so much going on. Let me just brief. Everyone was we've uncovered. You're you're sitting in a car in canada. It's an incredible cards and eighty nine coupe deville and completely just in public right now so if someone were to walk by they would just see you chatting in your car right. Yeah and you already looked crazy. Look like a crazy person. This is part of your charm. Yeah you look like you're planning some kind of violent thing. I just want your in an old shitty car. Risk spectacular tackler and i was i was nurse cradled and reared in a zip code. Two one two nine the people's republic of charlestown right there in the city of boston. It's one square mile by one square mile. Grew up going to the red store on the corner of my street. They're monument square where up until late nineties. They had to give a penny take a penny for the irish freedom fund. And when you made it in charlestown you drove a cadillac deville. Fleetwood whatever yon and this is the apex for my neighborhood. And it's taken me many many decades to get to where i've always wanted to be. I didn't anticipate it would feel this good decks right or happen. This quickly literally. I mean look at the stitching on this thing. No it's incredible. It's unparalleled it's incredible luxuries been in nosedive since the late eighties. Now as i'm getting so excited just to see your face and hear your charm. I'm also saddened at the same time. Because as i see you in this car realize it's a crime we're not better friends. It's an uneven that we're not better friends is that we don't hang out because what a pair we would be with. Our fleet vehicles are wise. Would be none too thrilled or thrilled to hear about this. That we had an outlet and each other i. I met your wife many many years ago. I think it was for this horror movie that we shot in romania and she is such a absolute best. It's what you see is what you get. She is definitely the nicest person i have. One of the nicest people i've ever ever encountered and she has this incredible way in which to balance confidence and humility that. I actually don't know if i've seen in other actors or actresses like her. She is so coffin who she is and also like where she's going at the same time she's so genuinely grateful and also wants to be able to communicate her gratitude through professionalism and you see it over and over. She's not the kind of person who treats people who live other. People might look what you look them over a camera You know she doesn't just treat them well because like she hopes somebody will find out about it rush. Does these things in private moments that people will never know and yet she still like a movie star user so rare to see that and i've always respected her and always really liked her. And then i got hip to you when you were doing all of your punk stuff. Hold on hold on. Hold on hold on. I want to interject here. Okay so yes you knew my wife and because you knew my wife you and i met each other for the first time in new york. We were doing when in rome. Kristen and i she said my buddy. Jonathan tucker is going to swing by on set. Yes and i'm like okay. You got a guy. Come into your trailer as i recall and then we met. And i'll tell you why i remember. This so profoundly is that i think about this compliment anytime. I'm feeling lo. I tell myself this once a month you when i met outside and i was taking off and then you then went and hung out with kristen and her trailer and she told me after the fact that you said i didn't realize dax was such a fucking beast. Then you're a fucking beasts. What do you say i mean. Look at the size of your chest barrel. That's really kind of funny because you guys weren't dating then that i knew of we were. Yeah you were coming in for the kill. No no look one of the like. He's i feel like my personal and maybe minimal professional success has simply been like be professional with the women you work with these people who end up hooking up with their co stars. First of all not that. Your wife would ever hooked up with me. Let's be clear she what she. What nine insinuating that. What i say is that like you're jeopardizing your production. The benefits never going to outweigh the potential negative of the production. You want to be friends with these people. Usually they're successful for a reason because they're dynamic and exciting and interesting and authentic risk-taking and it's kinda hard to be friends with people term really if you've had some sort of relationship with them and it can be so easy to have that happen on a production not the production ahead with your wife again. Well no all that. I mean erupt you. It actually would have been incredibly easy. Because you're all in romania. You're all fish out of water everyone's longley the production is into high dollar. One people are uncomfortable. It'd be a great way to comfort yourself to get some validation from a co star perchance. I guess i've been doing this for a long time. And your allegiance and the priority has to be to the production and it's a long term game and there's a lot of people relying on the success of your work beyond you and you should take that into account. It's so funny that you bring that one up. Because i remember being in new york i think you were at the met or the guggenheim the guggenheim and i remember coming in. And she said something about that production. The we had done together. She said her hair makeup team. She was like you know. I was so grateful to. I remember who's was disney or funny enough figures the weinstein's at that time or miramax or something and i was so grateful that they gave me that opportunity. And so i wanted to honor the work as much as i possibly could because it was a horror film and it was not going to win an oscar but she said to them like privately. She's just like they gave me this shot and i wanted to honour. Well we met there but you mentioned earlier that year from charleston charlestown charlestown and. I had a really unique experience in charleston. I had a driver when i was working in boston. Became really friendly with him. He had just gotten out of prison for an armored car robbery. He'd been there for a while. I went down there to buy a t-shirt. I'm on the phone with kristen face. Timing what shirt do you want. A guy walks up with a super thick neck tattoos everywhere. He's like. Oh i fucking know you. I'm like hey he's like let's get a pitcher and i go. Yeah when you come out on the phone with my wife but when you come out. Let's get a pitcher. He walks in one second later. He walks fook you and your fucking wife. Now it's on now. I'm fuck you motherfucker. You talk about the dude operating the t shirts shop. Johnny kelly was. It was johnny. Was it outside on the sidewalk in front of the liquor store by johnny kelly. Respect go on. So johnnie gets in between us immediately in the first thing he starts saying is nobody stabbing nobody. Nobody stabbing nobody. That's when we go quickly go victory. That was telling moment that he was screaming. No-one stabbing anyone. Anyways the point of that is that was sunday. Eleven in the morning. That happens yeah. I picked up monday by my driver. And i tell him i went to your own town. I had this experience. And he's like wait a minute. What time was this. What this guy looked like and i go. No let me be very clear. Everything's golden the dude. And i made up. Life's good. yeah but we don't master the charlestown teamster buddy keep going He dropped me off at work the whole ride. He saying i'd be very interested to know who this guy was right. And i keep repeating. No one needs to know who this guy was so he then goes kristen baby at the hotel like four hours later and he still saying i'd be really curious to know his guy. I talked to johnny the guy who sells the teacher. He's already talked to him as the greatest. By the time. I get off work. I get in the van. He goes okay. This fucking knuckleheads. At the halfway house two blocks up he's not from fucking charleston's of course the first thing we'll do is be like this guy's not the fucking neighborhood and you shouldn't be here and shouldn't have fucking senate thing they should have mind is fucking business over there. We're not across dude. I can't believe how quickly i got to experience the whole charlestown experienced by going to buy a t-shirt in the fact that even my dude like looked out for me found out who the guy was. Now the guys being watched the whole thing. So when i know you're from there and you're born in the eighties. What was childhood like there. It's such a unique little world. Yeah no really. I mean it really is because so hyper masculine and you're like this artists. Who did ballet. I'm just dying know where you were at in that. I was in two different worlds. My parents moved into charlestown. In the late seventy seventy seven seventy eight so. They moved into a neighbor that they could afford. My father. got this job at umass boston. The only public university in the city and he's an expert on monday. I'm monet on french impressionism and moves into charlestown. This is very high brow. Well it was a working class community that at that point they were the first like to knees the first yuppies the first liberals to move in Liberals were that. I bring up. Because that was what people sometimes would derogatorily referred to me as i was being experiencing charleston charleston's one of the most important parts of who i am and how i see the world and there's nobody prouder of the neighborhood. Nobody prior to be from the neighbor. That i am but i can acknowledge that. I'm not third generation charlestown. So they moved there in the seventy s they could afford it and we had a five storey townhouse. That was a rooming house. My father did all the electrical work. A ton of the plumbing with charlie cassidy logo charlestown character rest in peace and people rented rooms. They bought the house with people living in the house. The way was a common area for me growing up. I'd hold on pause pause pause. That's incredible what is scenario for you to meet characters. Oh yeah and people who rent room in general. They're not like they don't have roots down necessarily know. I mean some of them. Do some of them had lived in the house for decades. Before my parents there was a woman who lived in what became my parents bedroom. Who had a bell by her door. That went down to like at some point somebody to help her get food or whatever up to for apartment machinery a bed. She died in bed. My mother discovered her dead in the bed because she hadn't paid run all my god but then other people will be in for a year or six months or whatever they lost tenants and then accumulated space when people came out literally their sexuality. They're like i'm getting now. i'm out of here. I'm getting married. I'm outta here. I'm dead. I'm outta here. We're getting divorced ahmad ear. They accumulated more and more of that house in charlestown so literally like my bedroom. Was you know there was a woman who was working like. I think she was a nurse at mass general for period time and then i went to school out in the suburbs in a very beautiful very posh area called brookline. We use the word bucolic. I'm always dying us that we're colic. Nice tony area. It's where the country club is and it's literally. The country club at the oldest country club in in america is called not not country club a. We're very proud of ourselves in boston. Yeah yeah yeah kane or up and cut straight to the chase. Do you know ben and matt. I'm right to the chase. I thought some thought we were in trouble. I have to ask everyone from boston. But here's the reason why because they're from cambridge amer tell us what that means. We're very tribal. And it's the first thing that they said to dax he's like this guy's not from charlestown from charlestown fuck. This guy will cut him now. And in the hierarchy of toughness. I always from what i knew from. Movies was like southie. Guys were the fucking roughest customers but then once they spent some good amount of time there i found out no the charleston. Boys are above even the southie. Boys is that accurate. We don't need to rank ourselves charleston. South boss yourselves among coming on to buy gas distorted. Some sort of here. They both changed man. They both changed so much. If you send me a script and you wanted to show in the script and the town is yup you would change janis. Food master the local supermarket where they had no fresh produce and they didn't know what the word organic was when i was growing up to whole foods. Which is what happened in charlestown It's food but that's what happened. Yeah my parents bought our house for sixty thousand dollars will yeah. This was going to say it makes sense. 'cause the row houses right. That's what we call them row. Houses sure they're all big houses there narrow but they're multi-floor and you could see there. Was this great value sitting there in a very compact city so it was only a matter of time. I suppose the problem was in california. And i know it's a bit of a hot button issue but if you buy your house in california you're gonna pay tax on it for the rest of your life and that seems very unfair for a lot of people but it's also very fair because as the property value increases you're not moving people out and in charlestown as more and more people started buying homes. There they would then go and reassess the property and people who had family homes you grew up in those homes and we're gonna live in them for the rest of their lives could no longer afford to live in charleston yet. There's no argument against the california law. Because i was a kid when this happened on sixty minutes every other week you have all these older people who had retired. They own their home free and clear and they're literally losing their home to tax liability so can't have a tax system that way that punishes retirees. Well yeah i mean. That's a retiree issue. But this was happening to people who were any agent in bolivia. Yes that's your property. Yeah so then. What are those people who have grown up in nadine. The lifeblood of the neighborhood could are. They blamed for that while they can blame the government but they also blamed the people who are coming in and invading the neighborhood and increasing the value of the property. So that's where you started getting this -tuni- townie kind of bifurcation wasn't fully accepted into my school. In brooklyn i was but i wasn't fully. That was always the guy from charlestown and then in charlestown. I was the guy who was getting out and going to the school in brooklyn. Yeah but i played little league and the team. I played for. They were the teamsters because the local teamsters the view their membership their union is right there at the bottom of the street in charleston. Right across from the fire department. I remember one of my first days out there. Playing this kid came up to me by the super except they'd had a great baseball experience there but one of the funny guy. My team runs up to me. Stops played second base lifts up. His leg is Pant leg and shows me this knife. In his socking on ten or eleven years old. And he's like fucking liberal liberal. It goes back to the busing. Because essentially was the liberals who were enforcing this busing issue on charleston all the charlestown people knew were. This is a working class irish community that loves and cares for each other and we want to send our kids to our schools where they can walk to school and now we're being told. My one son has to get on a bus in go. Eight miles away to another school. Doesn't know anybody's gonna get beat up and my other son is going to go to another school whole other side of the cdn our driveway. And i'm the same thing happened and there was definitely racism involved as there was all over those really quick. This is interesting. Because when i think of busing i think of the opportunity for intercity kids to get on buses and go to a school. That may be better performing. You're saying in this case they were also saying you had to leave if you didn't want to your school district and go elsewhere. Yes so busing in boston. They moved every kid. Basically it was like you put your number into a tumbling machine. Oh my doubt and you'd go to school over. The city was forced integration in many ways it was totally and utterly necessary. Did a lot of good. In many ways it was completely mishandled and did a lot of an engendered. A terrible amount of resentment and violence but One thing to look at is where you start to understand. There is a very conservative ben. In massachusetts there were a lot of people who voted for donald trump in massachusetts scott brown for senate and that resentment some of that political sentiment what has been there since the seventies and they just had so allied themselves with certain parties and the parties took them for granted and didn't realize that there was is under current there but the liberals came from the fact that it was the fucking liberals that were stuffing this down throat. Wow what a fascinating history big time. There's a book called common ground by j anthony. Lukas that i think it won the pulitzer nineteen eighty nine. One thousand nine hundred ninety one year of your cadillac. The year on my cadillac uses boston. As a microcosm for other urban areas in america in the seventies the turbulent decade. It's one of the best books love ever read. 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I think the thing about growing up in a working class community is it's all about authenticity. They just can't be anything more than that. What they don't like and what people smell right away bullshit. I grew up in boston but we had a a little summer. House in upstate. New york in a town called saratoga springs new york. Is there little waterfall there. There's a racetrack famous racial. Oh okay and the oldest racetrack in the country. Yeah it's really fun. It's actually a great. Your family would love it. You actually still have to get dressed up. It's old school. Oh this is where rockefeller and everyone vacationed my right. They would have had a house there because they'd have horses and they'd go to the track. Yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah. Yup there's a scene in ocean's eleven that takes place there. Oh i'll factcheck balloons. We're no rockefellers. We have an expensive house. It was a little very very very modest spot because my mother went to skidmore college. Which is there. My grandmother lived out there because of it there's a local bakery called friday offers. They made cookies inbred and they paid for anybody under the age of like twelve in any senior citizens. They paid their admission to sit on the lawn at the performing arts center saratoga which is home in in new york city ballet the philadelphia philharmonic. So i'd sit in along with my grandmother. And i fell in love with ballet. I went back to boston and was like you know. I want to ally. And i wanna do real ballet. Don't want to be like gymnastics. My parents got me into the boston ballet company which turned out to be like the professional track for the company so dancing every performance. They did for about five years and change my life. Oh my god okay so really quick story so my mom could tell right out of the gates that i was going to be enormous. I was really tall from. Abc's and yeah these moats and so someone told her. Like i think doctor said you know he's gonna be so big. A great way to get him in. Very good control of his body would be to get him into ballet so. My mom enrolled me ballet. When i was like six or seven and i did it and i i liked it and then she invited my dad to the first recital so my dad wants the whole recital and then it was over turned to my mother. He's like that was his last recital. We're we're done with this story. I i i am going to do. I do on my son to do ballet you at least have the movie billy. Whatever to show yourself elliott billy elia. But i don't need them broader need that chechen running through a bit of a gauntlet like i did. My dad's supported me for sure and so to my mother and charlestown did but like funny enough defense kids. Yeah a lot less so my class for sure but but the classes above did not. I don't know. I think i really do think it makes you stronger. I'm not talking about. Like i'm not a proponent of bullying by any means but you gotta stand up for what you're doing what you believe in and if you can do that at a young age again it goes back to a sense of authenticity. The only thing we have different from one another is our creative sources are gut instinct is who we are. Individuals is the only thing so hone that and be that. It's the thing that makes you attractive in a room. When you're trying to get a job. I agree and ultimately everybody has a story to tell. Everybody is a lot more interesting than they might think they are. Everybody has something to offer and the more authentic you are the more were attracted to that because it there's no fear there but it is appealing right like when you're hungry you wanna be somewhere you have a fantasy and then you hear these things all you gotta do this. And it's it's quite tempting. It's like the low hanging fruit for sure and people will just constantly tell you what the path prescribed path looks like and yet the things that we all wanna see the interviews. You all wanna watch the actors who are going to bring. Let's theaters are the people. Were going to do things you don't expect you know who push back against what the orthodoxy is and even in younger people like. I don't know enough about a lot of these people maybe to be talking about them. But i've seen some of these interviews with miley cyrus. I know she's gone all over the place but like she's very authentic to who she is. It seems in these interviews. I'm like i wanna watch the interview. Oh i love her. I love her. Absolutely i think she's like yeah. This is me but even like jake paul. I don't know this guy. He seems like kinda jerk from all the youtube stuff but the dude clearly is getting it like. He's busting his ass with this boxing and he knows the marketing. And he's putting it out there and i don't know this guy from adam do have never met him. Don't know anybody who knows them. You gotta commend the fact that he is a sub-standard boxer who's gonna get paid millions to box. That's pretty brilliant. But he knows and he's working his ass off to through. True true really is working hard. I mean i'm throwing people. I really don't know all these people but i'm looking for these examples of like people who are truly authentic and what they're doing and sometimes you're gonna face these periods where it doesn't feel like it's working but that's just like this short term period if you stick with it man it will end up working out in lots of different ways and like a lot of friends of mine who have gone through sobriety issues. They have found the power of authenticity from the jump. And i've seen so much of their personal and professional lives change because of that. Yeah okay. I need to fan out for a bit. So did you get enough answers about ballet. I can always turn more of. I love the ballet. It's so impressive. It's you are in a professional ballet company with the boston ballet. And i'll tell you old man man i'd look your old man i'm like you. There's six of us in the company as boys four probably gay shar not out and four hundred and fifty beautiful young women. I'm like what. Where do you want me to go to a football locker room row. what are you talking about. Oh yeah you really you living in. I've said the same thing about all of kristen's classmates in musical theater. I'm like whoa. I missed the cheerleading cheerleading. Yes monica is a state champion. Cheerleader twice two times decorated coed squad and yeah people would like kinda make fun of them. They're like dude guy. I'm on the road girls of a giant and you're on the road with these ladies like out at tournaments and people are sneaking drinks. This is the dream. Okay do you wanna ask any specific like could he do. Is there a move. That's really hard. I don't know enough about yeah. What's the hardest move. You can do that. The reason why like. I'm very adamant that my son new ballet instills a sense of discipline. You really got slow slowdown. You got to listen and take direction you have to show up on time. The valley world. I don't know much. It's really changed but the sense of self discipline. And then just the strictness of it is fabulous for a young man well but you had already been kind of preconditioned as a catholic. Maybe that wasn't a worked for me. My father's a recovering catholic. Okay but you've got like relatives. That were like famous catholics. You look at ambassador uncle or some shit or some grandparent. That's good yeah yeah. Great grandfather was the ambassador to spain. Like the first academic to be an ambassador for the us government in some of your family members brought religion to yale as disciplined some exploration of of religion. Now yeah i've never talked about any of these sorts of things. My aunt and uncle started a world religion and ecology kind of conference at harvard many many years ago and the app became really their life work. Ecology in world religions and my uncle is an american indigenous scholar And my aunt pretty profound understanding of east. Asian studies an understanding of catholicism. Christianity is pretty profound as well as his michael's but they were trying to look at how these different faiths viewed ecology because all of their texts and all of their traditions Speak to that and yet we don't really talk about whether it's in temples or the churches or the ceremonies but also as not in a meaningful way not not bring out to the forefront of the connection between the two so they really brought that conversation to to yale within the school forestry and they have their own school they're enrolled religions and ecology. Yeah that's amazing. You know we gotta take care of the world dude. I know if you have faith in your life your faith is gonna tell you how they believe. We should look after the planet so you can't just take some of this and not take the other. If you're a christian you got to believe that. Jesus died and then came back. It's part of the thing. Yeah it's the buy in it's the buying and you gotta buy into how to treat the planet that is true. I hadn't even considered that. But if you believe there's a god and god created this beautiful place for all of us and it's a real fuck you to god to destroy it but do they think it can't be destroyed because god all good counterpoint. Well may knuckle definitely don't and they would suggest that the text doesn't say that in any way shape or form My push back with them. Is you gotta hit people in their wallet and people got to be incentivized. I agree you gotta make it easy. You gonna make it easy for totally okay. I ran out for you because we've been talking for an hour. I need to fan out for a minute and met you there on the sidewalk in new york. I liked you. You're so goddamn personable. I then bumped into several times. So fucking likable. Then you join parenthood. Sadly we never had anything together but you were around all the time so may bump into sometimes coming in out the trailer not enough for my liking. And then i discovered kingdom this year late to the party and right when parenthood wrapped. You're going to start that and you're starting with another member of the parenthood cast nat loria. So you boys were going to do this. And then i watch this show this year and you are outrageously fucking. It's it's crazy. How good you are that show. I was like simultaneously just enjoying this performance and then like elated for you as a person who has pursued this in done on the level. You did it. You're talking incredible on that show. So you're acting off the charts your so patient. You're so confident you know it's gonna come to you. You're relaxed as a mother fucker. You're doing things are happening that you didn't know we're going to happen. It's all obvious on the acting front and the baldy it is maddening. Your body matt and that show is absolutely infuriating. How did you transform yourself. There's this ira glass quotation where he's talking about writing or storytelling but it's applicable to any of the things that like we're doing or talking about which is he's like you know you got into whatever the discipline is because you had a certain level of expectation of quality of the work and you're getting so frustrated because the work you're producing isn't meeting those original goals the goals that gotcha in the expectations. That sent you on this path. And sometimes it's a combination of your own skill set and sometimes it's the material and sometimes it's both his suggestion. Is you just keep on doing it. Because at a certain point what got you into expectations the quality of the work. And where you are as a creative person will end up meeting each other. Most people quit And i've been working actor for eleven nurses. I was like eleven years old. And i actually was just talking about parenthood because i got this call from jason and he called me when i was in this period where i was testing for. Tv shows like once a week and not getting them. I think are tested for thirty odd. Tv shows oh. Wow and it's not really necessary to go into the depth of the challenge self-doubt changes hourly how you look one day. Then it's how you act one day then. It's forgot cancer man. When you're unemployed it kind of goes back to like my political philosophy. Which is nobody wants to be given anything. they want. Expectations put on them. They want job. They want their skillset theirself value to be determined by like what they do. And wow they contribute. I need you to show up tomorrow morning at eight. Am and beer and do this work. It creates self value. Yeah and when you can't work and when you're not employed separate things you don't feel good about yourself. Yeah it's brutal brutal and there's lots of different things you want can establish a as handrails and steps to get out of that to deal with it. But when jason called about this show i was in such a profoundly. Hard place on set and dylan mass and was one of the producers. Greatest fucking guy. Ever what produce. Yeah yeah yeah. He walks up to me. I mean perfect layup for this or t up like he comes up and he's like hey just want you know like really big fanciers. Can't we know we're all so excited you're doing this. And here on the show. We give their ability to characters to the actors and we want you to have a lot of fun we shoot. Three cameras dialogues guide for you. Try new things take risks. And i literally was like i was like on the inside. I'm fucking crying. Because i haven't gotten a job for a long time and nancy hurting and my representation that i thought was going to be there for me. My agents weren't there for me and the friends. You thought were. Your friends are not really offend. You know. in success our friends know us in in adversity. We our friends and people don't call you back and so i was so grateful because it really gave me a really liberated me to show. That shows a real confidence builder. Isn't it again. Like i said about kingdom learning to relax and let things happen. I feel like that show was like the greatest place to learn that our practice that for me. What else are you gonna do well previous to that. I'm like okay. i got these lines. I could barely understand why they would have me say this and then now i'm going to try to convince this other person seeing that this is a good thing that happened. Yeah yeah you can't do that. Life isn't like that man. Yeah my friend. Got this pilot recently. They he sent the tape and the casting director said we're not going to pass along producers and he calls up and he pleads this case is just pass it along they can pass but just give it to them to say no yes and he said to their credit they did and when they called and said the producers want you to kind of come in and the guy he said. That's right that's right that's right. He hasn't worked for hasn't been employed for years and he's a great actor as it. I've been there because you're not saying. Oh thank you thank you or thank god. You're saying that's right man. I've been doing the work. I'm ready the expectations of my work. When i got into this business i'm ready to go. Nice skills are ready to match that in to meet that. that's right. They want me the best person for that role. Yes all right. We're off on a tangent. How did you fucking get in shape like that for kingdom when this ariza going to definitely post a picture of you from kingdom on the release because it made monica. Look right before we talked to you. He's gonna make a calendar of you. I think almost everybody can get into commensurate shave for their body type if they are self disciplined as we were and a friend of mine. She's actually a dietitian. I think she has instagram account. Sheera barlow sure to book. And when she said i was like. Oh that's kind of like kingdom she said you know. I never have problems with brides to be following a plan. Yeah because they can see a goal they see themselves at a certain point in time jews actors can do that really well too because i'll be in that scene and i know i need to get to do these things to get there. Yeah there are systems. You can put into place like mental conditioning. Things to help make those sorts of goals happen and the goal isn't the body. The goal is tomorrow. I am going to work on this part of in this muscle group at this time with these numbers ahead. That's the goal and so there's simple things like you got to know where your weakness is so if you're not gonna make the coffee to go to the gym then you need to have the call. Unions know where you're going to go by and you need to walk through it mentally and you're going to say tomorrow morning at this time i'm gonna get up. I'm not gonna feel like i want to. I'm going to already have the music prepared. I'm the music scene and go in the car that one that gets me going and the key. I'm gonna fill the gas tank tonight. Like if i stopped at the gas station. I'll get distracted all these things getting your way. These small things get in our way. What did you way during that. You must have been light. I one hundred and seventy something it for one part of the show and a hundred and thirty seven or something for another part of the show one thirty seven two one. Whoa whoa on there. Yeah oh my gosh. You can't fake that. I can fake being auto mechanic. I can't say being a fighter right. Yeah all you so look the part and just your attitude was so fucking refreshing like the thing that would have drove me nuts if you went in there and tried to play tough. Oh that would have been such a disaster. You played like a smart ass which i knew many tough guys in my town. That had the exact attitude that you had in that show. It was just so authentic. Because when you're tough you can be a fucking smart ass because what's going to happen. You know the fight world. It's be humble or get humbled the more you do it. The more you realize that monica might be the one to like. Be a higher belt. Than i am and jujitsu mount might certainly would be again two times champion elite muscle mass from the twenty three and me test. This scale You just learn to not like make assumptions and you'll learn that some days like somedays just aren't days and all those lessons that i learned on that show through. Mma in which are still which is still an important part of my life. You apply to your daily experience and you just don't know what you don't know and anybody can be better on at a certain given day and the only thing that can really try to separate. You is the hard work that you put in the conditioner you put in before you get in there. Now we're both friends zegers right. Kevin zegers one of my favorite people. Yeah so gone through a similar experience where his back got up against the wall he was kind of. I don't want to speak for him but the employment was not coming the way he'd hoped the jobs that he wanted he deserved and he just kept getting deeper and deeper into being a better actor and we did one tape man where i started crying. I was reading on this other side of the cameron house. Like this really good were like. This is shockingly good work good work. That's a cool thing for two dudes to be sharing. I just want to say but anyways he was telling me that you're still like your diet is like you. Drink a half gallon coffee and oil in the morning. Then you kept on it. Yeah i like systems and all dandan system immediately. If i could find a better one. I like discipline. I like being in touch with my body. Are you to be married to because your wife's like you're so fucking busy with you got do this at this time and this at this time. There's no flexibility doesn't annoying for her. I'm very actually flexible. I do this somewhat bulletproof sort of drink in the morning and that's about it and then i just don't eat until a lot later and adopting whatever we want okay. So she doesn't find your by the way. I'm a control freak and i am also a creature of habit and it can get fucking cumbersome to me around me sometimes the un. I we've done a lot of things right. And a lotta long. But i think i can agree on is that we married the right people. Yeah it's so fun. Having the kids has been amazing man. This is an actor and as a human being. obviously but as you're the clarity is just overwhelming. Yeah they've cured a lot of my Existential crises for sure. They've been the most profound good thing that's happened to me as well. Let's talk about debris you are on a show currently your that's why you're up there right. Yeah so i got this script. And i was like and i work with a mental conditioning coach. Like a sports coach he does. He works with athletes. But i've also read like ten grover as a book called relentless. I think he just came out with the new one the inner game of tennis in mental conditioning book. I'm interested in performance on demand. Our business there's a lot less analytics of success. I e i sports like the ball goes in the basket or doesn't so glean from sports or combat. What is working for those athletes or soldiers. Like i want to be able to apply that to my life and it's very helpful in the gym by the way if you're looking to lift weights there's some like very symbol mental things. You can do that genuinely change the way you can always should pump together when you get home in my basement. I've been waiting to hear you telling me that for decades. Listen to you would see shoulder shirtless workout. But i had a goal. I really wanted to tone on set and be responsible for a production and a crew. And i didn't think it was going to be on a network. Primetime sci fi show. But as i looked at it as like well why not like i like the script a lot. I like this show runner off ton i love network. Tv gets an audience. It reaches an audience like they know how to do it man. I was going to bring that up. You were doing the best work of your entire life on kingdom and ninety people are seen it on direct. Tv that's gotta be heartbreaking. A little bit. I mean what you were going through to do that showing and just you know at that point like i was where i am. Now it's like you just got to keep moving forward so yeah people have found it. It's that good that it's broken out of that. I found it. And that's to me like the most important part. Because like i hope i die. Onset. i'm not like. I got my sag. After a pension plan every year. They told me how much money. I'll get when i'm like sixty five a month and i'm like that's awesome and it is awesome like it does make me feel like going to be homeless but i'm also thinking i'm never gonna be collecting this. Come on be on. Set for the rest of my. I love the process more now and ever lived. Oh my god. I'm so impressed. You know like when you go see shampoo nine. There's a hot button topic as well. There shouldn't be a sham moon. Orca should be in captivity but one thing did learn on none of my trips to see shampoo that you never see the same shampoo routine more than once or twice because shamil gets fucking bored so like. They teach the dolphins the routine. And they'll do it for years. Shampoo an orca. It needs something new everyday. The food's not enough for it and i just. I'm a little bit like an orca. I need to do something different. I'm impressed with what you're i feel like. I get a lot of dolphin during the day and then my shampoo is what i'm shooting as the action to cut. Okay that's fair. So yeah i love like the routine of like walking outside. And there's the teamster and i pick up my newspaper and i have a little thing at the trailer routine and hair makeup and radio the obits and rid of business action and have done go. See the sad cool. It's like what i thought. Or what i didn't think like and have you know i. I asked the prop guy for five special things and there. They all are cool. Try this and i love it. I love it. I just as good as you. I would probably still think of it. That way. Like if i was out there in jordan. Yeah it'd probably be more fun. But i'm out there like i'm just giving them what they need. You know i knew i love. I love i really do. You don't have other people to other people think that too. So i think what i learned quickly very quickly in the process. I was like this project is going to give you everything you wanted. And the people are great. Okay so what is debris about. It's a really fun concept and it's been a really fun show. I think a lot of people wanna benching it and when you get to the final episode i think people are gonna be like wait a second hold on i gotta go back and look the whole season again because the first season is really an origin story. It's about space debris from ralian race like a wreckage piece of old spaceship. That has somehow broken up and is coming towards earth and parts of that spaceship has started falling into the western hemisphere. And there's a joint operation between the us and the uk orbital and this team investigates where that space wreckage has landed and the people who have encountered it. And what kind of happens. Ooh those folks and it's part of your old nbc family man. i'm goodness streaming on hulu or peacock because they're a sponsor i'm gonna stream it on. He cautioned instead of hulu. Because they're not a sponsor. But i would monica to see monica a big parenthood fans. So she's seen you but that's not. You didn't have enough like you did a great job on that but we need to see some like you need to always be plane someone. So i'm a little terrified. They're gonna fucking die or kill. Someone win the next. Minute was really interesting because it was such a kind character but then there was some i mean. I don't i guess. I don't have to worry. About spoiling point but like treacherous stuff happening. Lecherous stuff. I say sylvia's house in crushers on the show and sarah watson. He was one of the writers producers. She was taking a gander at the at the craft table. And she's like she said something. I said something and she's like. Oh well bob little's been very divisive. He's a bit of a scumbag. And i was like what out like. He shouldn't be taking advantage of amber. Nobody taking advantage of amber amber nearly twenty some odd years old twenty seven we total. I saw different you differently because you were playing. Good actor right yeah. I would have tried to convince them to make me not gross. 'cause my friends wait. Don't do i have to date someone. Can i need someone older. It was such a good story line though that show for people who are on it. I mean my god i'd worked at that boom operator. You know the big boom operator dingoes mimic him all the time. Ron big ron. Begged ron big ron. So i did a movie with big ron in chicago. In two thousand always remembered him joy. And i were obsessed with his outside the show life because he would go on vacation down to mexico and he's a beautiful piano player and he wears a speedo and he's a fuck and beast and i'm like can you imagine walking on the sand. The piano is on the sand. He stayed in seeing big. Ron tickled the ivory in a speedo. Who's not knocked out cold by that. He's such a great character. And i have no comment on that image. It's just it's it's exactly it's exotic i love ron. Oh my god. Do i love dingoes days. Six six african american drape basketball player muscle. Yeah and he used to have his monitor on a um harmonica d holding device so he could watch the monitor in front of them and hold the boom but he would. He told me. Talk the talk of and the same check every week every week to the dollar for six years when the show because the hours you're like in at like eight. Am at out at three gave. 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Oh you a i dot com and use kodak's to get fifteen percent off your entire purchase. That's t. h. e. o. u. a. i. dot com kodak's. A lot of good. Things are happening in your life. You've got a great wife. Feel very lucky podcast. Monica monica monica. Are you indian. what's your yes because my wife is indian law mike. I'm jewish and catholic. My wife her mother is is punjabi but in hindu and her father is gujarati from muslim. Okay i've got my kids have all four religions pulsating through their bodies that's awesome. We just wrote this letter to a friend of ours to help us apply to preschool. And one of the biggest parts about in that we talked about was wanting to have our children be proud of their culture and to be in an environment where they were inspired to talk about their culture and to be curious and excited to learn about other people's culture and i want them to be proud of being indian. Want them to not be made fun of for my wife was like kind of made fun of like a little bit. She did a lot of education in the uk and our my kids only half. They only have half of the right to claim some of the victim kind of conversation. That we're having the marginalize part. Yeah are they half marginalized. I get what you mean. Do my kids have the same right to kind of speak up against marginalisation and they do. It's when you start getting into this. Like i'm more of a victim than this person or i victim like that's a problem and that's also just not helping anything or anyone. The very truth is your children are indian evade. Get to speak on that experience. And also i wonder like when did you guys get married or when did you meet her. We got married in twenty twelve and we were dating for two years before that. So have any of. Your ideas changed since meeting her like about race or in general stacks. Have since meeting me. I think i've changed a few major things after becoming really good friends with monica really. Yeah i used to make an argument. That comedic -ly you can't section out who's allowed to make fun of who just comedic -ly humans get to make fun of humans and if i can do an irish accent. I'm going to do that. And if i can do a german accent. I'm going to do that but i do. An indian accent. I'm gonna do that. That used to be my position. I've seen the light in. I do not hold that position anymore for the realization. That when i do the german accent there. Isn't they german kid in suburban georgia being pointed out in made fun of and alienated. Yeah there's not enough representation of these the three indian. I probably could only could. Yeah will you. When you know better you do better. That's right so now. I've got to see really firsthand and you probably have been to being married to an indian. Gail is that how often people of color or put in this fucking annoying situation where someone else says something stupid and they realized that they said some stupid then they apologized and they feel really bad than the person of color has to start fucking comforting this person and telling them it's not a big deal and making you know trying to sacrifice their feelings that part i've seen ad nauseam. I would blow my head off if i had to do that. I think is a country. We've done a lot better in the past decade about these sorts of conversations. And i think we. I hope we've evolved a lot more. I also know that really good people can make certain. Will we now know of mistakes. Oh yeah and should not be held like. I have somebody i've been working with. Who's been using jew. Okay as like a common thing and can you give me an example. Well hey mom. Why can't you sell the chairs. are you ok okay. That's very specifically playing the stereotype that jewish people are cheap. Yeah unlike you'll that is a cr-. I can't believe and the first knows i'm jewish. I'm like how. I can't believe you could say this. Yeah yeah but they're not anti-semites ages don't know any better and i'm not gonna say that i would have a conversation about it to help somebody get into it but i just feel like we've gotten very cancel culture about this. Yeah i agree with you. We're on the same page with that. I agree that some people have never grown up around anybody else. Now if i know better yes it's about how you respond to it but also i just wanna point one other thing and this is where i've been delusional to is sure you jonathan tucker can hear the guy say jew and you have some response to that. You don't like it but whatever you're also not a disempowered person hearing that moment so if you hear that and the guy's a cop in your fuck in z. There's all these dynamics. So i've often been wrong because i forget that. Yeah i'm fucking six. Two in the shit's the fan. I'm ready to go like. Of course i'm not as threatened by this thing that should be offending me. So that's also relevant. So let me tell you. I can give you my wife story in boston when she met some friends of ours in charlestown town as they said so What's your last name jos. It's ahmed was on. And so what are the image do will. My father is He's a writer. He's my mother's a journalist. He's like nano like the patel. Cuts runs the corner stores. The sings run the taxi cabs. What the armez do no way system. By the way. What's your game like totally crazy to be saying out loud inter-community that definitely does not have a history of positive history with people of color. But they're basically asking what your hustle right like. What's the family hustle to exactly. I guess it's all a little bit more complicated. My biggest fear in the world is like being misinterpreted. That's my biggest. Let's say my achilles heel. If i say something and then offended i didn't mean to offend you. Like kale's me kantar but then it gets pointed out and you go. Oh my god okay. I didn't even realize that. And then everyone's good. I don't think anyone's asking for something beyond well. Some people are some people want to destroy other humans. That's for sure. I wanna be sensitive. If you say. I don't see color i don't see skin that's all of a sudden that's like a racist charlotte to say whereas that's what we were trying to teach everybody you know three years ago. Yeah and and. I don't have any of the right answers. I just know that we have gone really far in one direction over by the way the people have the microphone right now. It's critical that they do. Yeah absolutely one last thing the idea that like three years ago we said don't call her and now it's like you can't be colorblind and so there's so many ups and downs of pendulum swings back and forth. This like where are we. What do we do. But i i would say to that yet frustrating but like maybe just understand you gotta be a little bit flexible because these minority groups have always had to be flexible. Always always from the get go so we know this. Just ride the wave a bit. My point is like if you're not gonna do an indian accent dax now. Yeah good do when there's an indian person in the room don't do when there's an arm saying like yeah you know what your moral certitude is stick to it regardless of. Who's around yes. In fact the only way i would possibly do it would be in front of monica. Actually i would feel worse if i did. It would be like. Oh is this the one. I'm retelling the story and this is how it sounded and is that worth it and whatever still have to think it through these are conversations are really important to be having. Oh yeah. Yeah i agree. I agree jonathan ear so radical. I'm so glad you're in this cadillac and really when you get back. Let's make a real effort to pomp. I i gotta tell you that it's like it's such a thrill to be here with you. And what i don't know of you know is just how much like your personal journey has been inspired so many people a lot of times you know when we're in these positions where our journeys are a little bit more public and you've been so honest about it. You're just never going to know the impact and the influence that you have on people. I mean you see the bid on instagram. Dmz where people will tell you how challenge they've been in what you've done for them positively but the extent of what you're doing having these transparent conversations in sharing your story you're just never gonna never gonna fully appreciate what good is doing in the world and from somebody who's heard a lot from a lot of different people about you. I just wanted to share my gratitude. Thank you tucker well. We'd love each other. I think we both have major crushes on each other. Is that fair to say monica. I think it's fair to say all right brother. Thank you and now my favorite part of the show. The fact check with my soul mate. Mama pad johnny appleseed johnny tucker appleseed. Isn't there a movie called. Jonathan tucker must die. Yeah yeah so every time. I think i'm saying his name wrong. Because i keep thinking. Oh i'm getting confused with the movie. But i'm not his name's jonathan tucker but i don't want him to die also. I'm having a lot of confusion around that topic. Jonathan tucker must die. Because i wanna say it's based on a book written by a guy who might may be turned out to be kinda crappy success. John tucker must die. Oh john tucker mazda. You're thinking john tucker motherfucker which is also a great movie. No i'm thinking of jonathan tucker. Must i but it's called. John tucker must die. But that's still short for jonathan so it still right little confusing are you thinking of. I hope they serve beer in hell. Yes who's that. Is that john that tucker max. Isn't it how that was my confusion all right. So just forget all about jonathan tucker and tucker max and pucker pucker up well. That was confusing and we saw nothing. I thought today. Oh i loan. You have thoughts. I had a break through revelation. Oh my god an epiphany. I would call it an epiphany what happened. I think most mugs are left handed. Mugs i really do well and i'm upset by it but i think it's true because you know i haven't mug of session. I love your mug obsession. You just got a beautiful one from certain hotel. We're not allowed to say she probably shouldn't have been there not told you told me after i did after i already bought a we go return. I can't drink out of it. And i love it okay. Great i guess. There's a hotel in los angeles that say yeah. I don't even know if he's still owns. That's a good question. I can tell the history of it so please taboo look up if he still owns it because then i can go their guilt. Free at the point is is. There was a moment where the sultan of brunei in addition to owning the door. Shurmur in london he bought the beverly hills hotel landmark one of the most celebrated hotel in town very iconic incredibly alvin proprietary. Yes and then. That wasn't a problem in itself but at some point i want to say maybe in two thousand ten or something. He decreed sharia law. Yeah in brunei and then it became a very protested hotel yeah understandably. We don't know if it's own still by the sole google says it is okay dorchester collection. Owns it Which is his company owned by the brunei investment agency okay a little dicey. Yeah have they gotten rid of sharia law because maybe they got rid of sharia law and that clears up. The whole thing is brunei still under sharia law. That would be my search. Yeah in may nineteen. It says brunei backs away from death penalty. Oh by okay. I is no longer under sharia law or they've backed away from the death. Penalty was bad. The salt and the brunette homely. Okay listen so you had. This thought went to the beverly hills. Hotel i did not know was a highly protested hotel i bought a mug there because it was so cute pink beautiful it says the beverly hills on it. Light letters carved cardin diagonally in curse. That's right looks very much. Like beverly hills cops for which started thinking. Did they use the phone. From beverly hills hotel then we thought we have to protest. That movie right. I've never seen the protests. So i have that mug. And i've been realizing that anywhere. I go look when we went to the four seasons in hawaii about a mug there too. And i got starbucks. My love love mugs so much they make me feel safe and i'm realizing that. So many of them if they only have writing on one side is left handed mug. And i don't like all this is where you and i. We need to talk about this. So is it your opinion that the writing on the mug should be facing the drinker or out to the world. We've discussed this and we can revisit. Yeah to the world right. I agree okay. Then you live with by yourself. And you don't i live by myself and i'm taking these bugs out to the world. Either i wouldn't want it to face me. Then now. I want to read the beverly hills every time. But don't you want to read that. Beverly hills thing. Why even who cares what it says. Then if you're not gonna ever look. Ed read it when you take out of the cabinet and you're like oh it's cute and picking this out okay. And then it's for the world to see. Do you know what's really funny is as you were talking about how much you love mugs. My head was like. I gotta buy her the most expensive mug that's in the world. I was imagining myself but google. Lean most expensive to get you on. And i was thinking ours asked to be the most expensive mug in the world. Unless there's like faberge mugs. I don't know anyway. So this is heartbreaking. I i tried it with the other hand. Yeah like i was like. Oh is there a world in which that's actually. You're supposed to do that like if you're right. Handed should have it in your left hand because your right hand can be free to write or draw or the open door exactly so i was like okay. Maybe they've thought this through. So i held it in my left hand and i was driving though. I'm scared for this. Didn't all over your nice car. No okay a little bit. you bet. Green muchas slime all over your now your tan interior. And then i was like. This isn't easy still. So then i moved into my right hand where it belongs and that's where it belongs. It was easy. Yeah no more spills. And i had to look at. It wasn't facing the world and i was sad. I would wanna look at it but we don't agree on a different opinion. We do our right handed people maybe supposed to be using their left hand to drink mug if they're like writing that's exactly what he just raw god up any who all right so that was my revelation this morning impressive impressive revelation here. It came to me. While i was organizing. Revelations come on organizing those little. Menial tasks those repetitive meal tasks can be very fertile ground for creativity. Mine was riding. The riding. lawnmower requires just enough your attention that it somehow let your mind wander and various special way. What kind of attention does it require. Because you have to turn it and you have to stay on the line perfectly. So then you're not just brandon lee. Cutting you know a path. Every time he turns you gotta keep that front wheel on the previous we mark. And then you're gonna wind turn. Yes there's stuff happening you're listening. You don't wanna go drive over golf. Baugh mandal's you know. There's there's just enough stuff going on. I think that's why people have great ideas. You hear a lot of songwriters. Say they great ideas either Driving their car on the road in the shower very commonplace because again. You're doing this repetitive. You don't really need to think about it but you need to think about it enough share yeah true you don't because you don't take showers much wanna tell people about that. I slow the the most important info i wanna know. Let's let's so you have to be impressive. I was gonna say violate out. It'll sound like horse shit. Okay so you take a shower like every couple of days right. Yeah and you wash your hair like once every two months. No no every everytime i shower i show or once every three days. Okay okay okay. I can't believe i'm admitting now. But i'm telling you it's actually impressive because you never smell and you work out. Thank you so what i wanted to say was like. I don't have to shower because i don't smell. I'm not a sweater. I don't sweat and i and i don't smell in. My hair is dry. It'll never get oily. It would take me like ten days of not washing my hair before. It'd be oily so it's kinda just ceremonial if i get in there and do it. I don't really think skin i do. I think soap dries out your skin. And so. I only wash my armpits in my dick balls and amos. I don't wash my chest in my arms and my legs just for the sake this. I'm cleaning all the areas that could be exposed to do this or extreme sweat. And for that for me. That's only my armpits. In my penis testicles. Neom might amos in my butt crack okay. So what's funny is on the armpits. I said that i started their with. Remember that oh okay. Well so i was just on the road and i bring with me my shampoo i liked to us and every time i have the same experience so i showered twice on this trip that i was just gonna which is kind of normal normally. What did just showered in the middle of it. Okay because you only got a couple of days you've four days. I ended up showering twice and both times. I thought why. Do i think this is such a pain in the neck. It's not but in my head. Because i shower at night selena bed. I'm always about to do something. Like i finally get to watch that show. It's always it's always impeding. Might quote my time when i get to turn on my ipad. My baby boy in watch some good programming. And i don't want sacrifice that for some other thing but every time i do it. It's so much quicker than i think it's going to be and both times. I was gonna showers. Like why. Don't i just do this more while also have you tried a morning shower. That's how i always shower in the past but what broke me of that is acting having product in my hair and makeup on now now if i'm filming generally shower every night like i'm buses mass shower every night. 'cause i had to get the my hair. I couldn't sleep in hairspray. So this i just want to preface it by saying that i have hair product and shit. I shower every night. But if i'm just living you know just taking it easy. Yeah every couple days every three days. It's gross now. It's not because you don't smell and it's finding you're right maybe it'll dry out your skin. Maybe it shouldn't. But i mean i don't think you should shower more but the days you do shower. Maybe you should shower in the morning. Sue don't feel like it's impeding on anything but the marines always rush to add. Shower is nice because you get your day. You feel fresh. I like it. i'm not against it. My thing is when. I wake up praying to wake up a half hour before i have to get involved with the kids so that i can journal. That's number one and then by the timing of the fucking kids on the computer and all that crap. Now i'm always like oh. I gotta start researching this person right now because we're about to whatever it doesn't record. Oh okay great since you only have to shower once or twice a week. I'm not. I'm not excited for the response to this. I would only have set it if it wasn't a problem. It's not a problem. okay. I promise i would tell you if i was like i think you smell be. Oh we wouldn't mind cena to each other like your pits. Smell your pets. Oh i'm going to add something to this. I do think is relevant. Because before i had this i did shower way more. Because i'm pretty neurotic about my butthole. So i have a toilet. That has a touchy. So i spray my asshole with water every morning after i crap and it gets a thorough cleaning. If i didn't have that i would have to shower. Because there's no way i could go without washing my bought with water that makes sense. Yeah toilet paper. Follow wipes hello belts. They're wonderful hello bello great great white. They are the best truly the best. I do use forty percent cheaper than the competing brand. You know what. I do like a lot about alabama. Why isn't an ad. But it kind of is. Because i'm here. Yeah but it's not bella bella wipes when you pull it out. It's not attached of that. Normally you pull out a wipe and there's like a hundred that come out and yuck like mugabe back in so annoying the hell abella become out. Man bom individual wipe wipe your guess. That would be another option. I would employ if i didn't have water access to my bottom. Yeah any hill. I just thought people might want to know about your routines often you shower. I shower every day. Unless i randomly skip a day. It's not like. I have a routine of every other day. It's that shower every day. But sometimes i skip right. I definitely feel like at least one day a week. You skip right. I would say most weeks. I don't skip okay. But somebody's but i only wash my hair every three days or more more like one. Say five days probably. Okay 'cause that is about stripping oils out. yeah. I believe this your skins saying personally. I do have dry dry skin. I know that's what i'm telling. Also you have dry skin on your legs vast because you wash your legs. Don't fucking washer. Wash your legs i do. Oh my god you guys what what's getting on your legs you wear payoffs your your short. Sometimes but in general let's take a winner month. You wear pants. Nothing's getting on your skin. That water in utah loft won't handle. It's just a matter of like. I wanted to smell good soap on my legs in a decade and they smell like i get compliments on my smell. Yeah but that's your hair. Well no it's because i have a very gorgeous soap. Okay but does anyone smelled your legs and said you smell gorgeous yet. Bright i just as an experiment. What have you tried not washing your legs. Just give me thirty days off. All i'm asking thirty days anyway. Wait thirty days of not washing your legs. That's all i'm asking and let c or the moisture level is at the end of that thirty days. What are you possibly risking antisemitic. Just relaxed. I also have to shave my legs. You don't so. That is a difference. I'm not gonna shave and then not use so you have to use a ladder to shave so either use soap or a shaving cream. Put air conditioner on it. Well that's gonna clean it. It's still so commissioners on soap talking moisturizing conditioner it you put ucla renting. It's still cleansing. Anyway you won't do it. I care about cleaning my legs. Am i arms in. You have to deal with dry skin as a result of it i do. We don't know if it's as a result of it and we'll never know 'cause you won't go thirty days without you're now you're acting like i'm doing something wrong somehow by cleaning my body every yes. I'm what i'm telling you. Is that humans. As an animal species were not designed to have soap applied to their epidermis once a day and the result of that is dry. Chalky skin we'll and they also probably had rashes and gross stuff everywhere one time when i was little. Oh we're gonna find out the trauma that caused this. Okay no trauma. 'cause taking a shower with soap. Okay that's normal. We'll find out. Want you to tell act like people are doing something wrong just because you shower once every three days. I doing normal stuff. I all. I'm saying is that people could try as an experiment. Risk free money free to try not soaping their bodies up for a month in evaluating if a they smelt differently embi of their skin wasn't much softer in less dry. That's not a crazy request. Well it is a crazy request. I don't think people need to feel like they need to do that for you. It's not for me. It's for them. I'm not the one that deals with their dry skin. Colleague turned the tables son. Anyway i was younger. And my mom's like what's on your neck. Oh and it was in my net crease. Which i still have and i hate. I had a back then to and shows like it's black and she thought it was a bruise or something and turns out it was dirt. Okay okay so that's were so you have to wash your neck with water. You can wash water in the dirt would have been gone now. He has i watch. I at least washed with water. Apparently not you had a big clump of dirt in. You can't spray your neck with water and have a clump of dirt city. Some if you have to get in there. Sorry don't have a crease. You might have removed. When i was a child. I wish i could get mine or move so bad anyway so it was covered in durres. And i'm very diligent about my neck but also you have to take really good moisturizing care of that area to just keeping your skin. Moist is really advised says. Yeah it is okay jonathan. Jt gt thomas. Jonathan taylor tom. Jonathan tucker thomas jonathan tucker thomas what if his middle names thomas. Jonathan thomas tucker. Oh my god simulation okay. The movie that he kristen shot in romania was called pulse pulse and who produced that movie. He thought maybe was the weinstein's the weinstein company was a producer. And the on that with other ones too is the t. c. c. the oldest country in america. No the country club t c. Located on brookline massachusetts is one of the oldest country clubs in the united states. It holds an important place in golf history as it is one of the five charter clubs that founded the united states golf association and has hosted numerous usga tournaments including the nineteen thirteen us open. Although the club has thirteen hundred members it is known for its exclusivity. Oh i wanna go there. That's one place. That's limited a dish that i could care less about. Good good got a chip on my shoulder of course but anyone having a good time there. God bless you. I think i have a trauma about it. Because oh maybe that's not a country club in marina del rey. There's some sort of country club and when i babysat for these kids who lived there one time i had to take them there and they had tennis lessons and then my car was towed. Oh my god. And i had to get to the tow place with no car seats. We had to walk there. It was a nightmare oof stressful day. Very well kind of stress. Would you prefer like you've had entry level job stress in. You've had like high level job stress. Because i think white collar people kinda tell themselves. I don't swing a hammer all day long but the amount of stress i'm under and maybe they're right i don't know but what would what would you say. That's a quick. I mean all the all the babysitting jobs have its own level of stress. Because you're caring for somebody else's children so it has to me a very high weight of stress more than something. I'm doing on my own. Yeah i think it's more. I don't think this is answering it properly. But i am definitely more stressed in jobs where i'm serving somebody else If it's me. I'm definitely stressed because it's on me but i don't have an emotional layer of like that person you would just be failing yourself. Yeah i do all day. Never tenders dirt my neck. It's a failure. I once i told delta of course n lincoln about my dirt neck. Okay and so. I think i instilled in them. That they gotta wash it neck a lot. Oh yeah pass that on. They're not trauma listening to you because they don't wash think i'm bad they do. I think lincoln even brought it up again to me. We used to bathe them every single night as part of the bedtime routine and at some point that's topped in a and now there's quite often a conversation between chris and i was like shit with the kids lately executives be going in my head like oh. I haven't sat in on a bath and she'll go. Oh i thought you. I guess it's been. It goes to show the power of habit. Yeah because that was part of bedtime routine missed. It was signaling. Here we go. Yeah but when they are in the bath a guarantee you the neck is addressed using so yes okay. is the oldest race track in saratoga springs A lot of oldest claims yeah not true okay. All right these things happen saratoga. Race course opened in eighteen sixty three. It is often considered to be the oldest major sporting venue of any kind in the country but it is actually the fourth oldest race track in the united states after third. Oldest pleasanton fairgrounds racetrack. Second fairgrounds race course and oldest freehold raceway alright. So he's getting really close to you should just he can even say top five so easy to add. Just one of yeah then. You're in the clear. And i thought maybe it was where they shot. Ocean's eleven this scene in ocean's eleven. That's a dog track isn't it. Yeah saul is at the dog. Track then later in the movie in there in the heist part at this point. And he's walking in the hotel in someone recognizes him and says so so name is something else and they saw its blah blah blah from saratoga. We'll circle. yeah the oldest dog racing track in the world. Saratoga i mean. I don't know where dog racing pasta other than florida. Yeah i've never been to one. You have is it fun. Is it amused. I think what ends up. Well dogs love chasing shit so the race itself. I don't think is abuse. But i do think there might be some questionable practices to get the dogs ready to rates. There's always this rumor that they fed him gunpowder. That was when i was a kid. That's gotta be urban legend but anyways they probably aren't you know treated real nice bright. I dunno i dunno. i don't either. We're not saying because we don't know we don't have a position because we're ignorant on the whole sport. We are who we call the sports. And i might be taking a position all right love you.

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You should know a production of iheartradio. Hey and welcome to the podcast. I'm josh clark with charles w chuck bryant and jerome jerry. Do we say your last name to now. Never said a kit cheese. I keep it that way. Yeah jerome jerry. Blank jerry mike. That's a real person right. No she was on Strangers yeah okay. I was like manna know that name. Yeah they cared. You're right yeah. Yeah she really cleaned herself up and went on to become a spokesperson for the amy sedaris. Jerry oh yeah. They're one in the same. Yeah i love. Amy sedaris sedaris. Some people don't aren't they fighting. Amien david david and everybody else think he wrote like some new yorker article about his did sister their sister who can't remember what happened. But she wrote like a memoir about her in the new yorker. They got mad and the rest of the family. Call them out on the inconsistencies and errors in facts and maybe they were tired of it because all he's done is right about his family. Yeah i guess they're like that's david yeah no more we're done cut us in or we're going to cause big trouble for you. I do my david sedaris about it. I i realized like david i could. But yeah not gonna go there. So limos yeah. At least some of the sedaris is right around limousines. I bet they have an. I can guarantee they have because chuck it turns out. The definition of a limousine is way broader. would think. Yeah it doesn't necessarily mean some super stretch no but it can basically a limousine technically is any car with a roomier backseat than the average car. And if you throw in a driver do your. There's nobody who's going to say that's not a limo. Yeah yes it is yeah. Nb right yeah like technically if you want to get a higher towncar to take you to the airport Technically that's a limousine. Yeah you know the car services in new york. -ture those are limos that's right. They have merely atlanta to do. They have car service here in atlanta. You give me i see. You're just the worst. Oh yes yeah yeah. Yeah 'cause there's a special tag. yeah did you know. The atlanta taxi drivers the worst taxi drivers on the planet Have you noticed from experience that it's pretty bad but i do it now. That's different yeah. That's different than the taxes. Oh no that's what i'm saying. That's why i orbit because they're different than taxis so bad. Yeah seriously anybody who comes to atlanta. If you make it out of hartsfield look around at the taxis and how they drive. Your mind will be scrambled. Yeah it's crazy. I think cabbies kinda like that everywhere. No no like very frequently. They are the best drivers in the entire city. They know where they're going. They don't just meander. They don't like drift into lanes they don't dry to super slow had the opposite experience. Most most cabs. That i've been in the driver was pretty great. Usually when i'm in a cab in new york city i wonder. Is this the ride where we hit somebody or some other car. Yes but you don't and they're going really fast in atlanta. They drive ten miles an hour and hit everything they decide. Swipe everything slowing lousy come to atlanta. So anyway we're talking limousines man. Let's get back on track. Yeah i should say to a hate limousines like Love a good towncar ride to or from an airport. Yeah but as far as a stretch limousine. I just hate that whole thing just a little kind of. Hey look at me. I was just dumb. It's longer and it's got a bar. It's just. I don't know. I think the whole thing is stupid. And like just part of that whole Charts assistant culture that despise. I get you know. I've got money so wanted to be in a longer car. A tv in it well for a very long time if you wanted to tv in your car or phone. Yeah your car. Better be double the size of the normal version of it all right. I just had to get on my soapbox like if it's for prom and you're all going in lake. I get like a fun thing like that but for bus the ferber for your niece's birthday like we did. That was fun what you never done that. No i thought you're saying we rented it for my niece's birthday now. My niece's birthday. A part of my family wasn't invited. Scott invited me. this is before. I need you. My friend Anyway i can see the fine of occasionally but just as a means of transportation. I think it's pretty obnoxious. I gotcha especially those huge huge like homer stretches. I just want like to dematerialize those with my eyes. I wish i can shoot laser beam and expose the people within just all of a sudden. They're on the street. Bourbon and coke goal. It happened to my super stretch summer. I wonder how you'd have to do that. So like your your laser beam is. We'd have to just jesse fiberglass like destroy fiberglass and steel and upholstery and rubber so I think as we've stayed limousine doesn't necessarily have to be what you hate. Yes it can also be just a a car driven by somebody where you gotta roomy backseats yet for the passenger nice big truck but even before that even if you want to say wow it's a broad definition the limousine man. Let's go even further back and include clothing as a limousine in the definition of limousines. Because i learned as i imagine you did. The word limousine comes from a town. In france called limousine. We'd like to introduce our new principal. Skinner principal seymour skinner. Great one. that is one of the all time. Greats yes. It was limousine without the e. On the end. And like you said. The original limousine wasn't a car. It was a little hooded raincoat. The protected you yeah like little red riding hood were limiting. Yeah it was. Yeah hooded cloak and it was invented in limousin france and it became synonymous with limousin france because they called it a limousine. that's right So as people started Building coaches that protected the The rider the passenger from the elements. They're like wow. This is kind of like a hooded cloak in really weird way little bit of a stretch. Let's start calling these limousines. Yeah even if it was a a horse and carriage on the idea that you were not driving this carriage and you had a nice little comfy covered in the back They called it a limousine. I'm very frequently. Probably all the time is a better way to put The driver himself wasn't covered like there was just the passengers that were covered. Now you'll get rained on and like it exactly if you complain. Put you on the rack. That's right in. This continued until the they started building regular as thing. Jonathan strickland wrote this. What he calls horseless carriages very cheekily aka the automobile. And they call those limousines and they started like very early on in new york city they started. Someone started a limousine service. I think in the twenties yeah. Nineteen twenties is not too bad And these cars the first earl. The earliest limousines were basically built from the ground up you. You built a car with the intention of building a st- like a stretch longer car limousine as we understand it today. That's right it might not be like a stretch sedan. Yeah some of the early limousines Like station wagons or like an old model t station wagon. What i'm saying you're But very quickly. These companies figured out that it would be vastly easier to take an already manufactured car and stretch it basically do conversion. Yeah and that became the tradition for a very long time. I think starting in the twenties yeah in luxury cars obviously from the beginning where the prime targets because this is what rich people were used to having their fannies sit upon while they were being driven around so mercedes benz and cadillacs and fleetwood lebarons We're all prime candidates Even the famed bentley had limousine the are are now is they made only twenty of that. It's pretty sweet. Yeah i gotta admit yeah for a non limousine guy. I was like. Oh that's kind of nice. That's very nice car You ever ridden in a bentley reason. No i haven't either now. You can get a chrysler that looks like a bentley was at the three hundred. I don't know i call. I think it is the three hundred column finley's for some reason John varvara had a three hundred addition was addition. He's a clothing designer Yeah and in the ad for his addition of the chrysler three hundred he. It's him and edgy. Pop just randomly. You pop is in the ad with him. I guess they were getting wasted the that day that he had film shirt off. I probably can't remember. Yeah you don't see that much no He's very proud of his wife. muscular body. I don't blame him all right. I think we've wasted enough time. So let's right after this. Break talk about that limo conversion because to me. That's about the most interesting part of london's so chuck you've heard of aflac right. Will the duck. Yeah of course. Yeah but do you know what they actually do. It's insurance right well. Sort of see. Most people don't realize that their health insurance isn't designed to cover all their medical expenses really. Yeah the country people can get hit with unexpected medical bills. Even something as simple as going to your doctor can leave you with expenses. Your health insurance may not cover. Wow i never really thought about that. Yeah that's why there's affleck they can help give you an additional layer of financial protection. 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They used to build a limo to be limo. Yeah like just some guy would build a car from the ground up and he would bill the extra long. And that's where the early limousines came from. Yeah it was a company called armbruster in nineteen twenty eight where they arkansas. It was I think they're american idol. They are american. I don't remember if it's in arkansas. Not but it was. Actually i found in a write up on the company from nineteen eighty seven it says nineteen twenty-three is when they built their first hour limousine and that by at least one thousand nine hundred eighty six. They were doing conversions. Because there's a picture of an early stretch buick that they made and they realized that conversions was where it was at right. Let's take an existing car. Cut it in half and stick something in the middle of those two pieces because somebody else is going to the trouble of building the engine of designing like the dynamics of figuring out how to put the tires wear and all that slide do all that like when you can just cut a car in half add more car at bam. You have a stretch limousine. I had no idea they did it this way. No when i read it. The first time. I was like shirley he's made a horseless carriage joke. I know this must be a joke. Well no that's how a lot of limousines are made and it's funny you bring up the hundred chrysler three hundred and so the one that looks like a bentley because i saw I guess a test of one of them. That was like chrysler builds these three hundred stretch. Limousines yeah so if you see a chrysler. Three hundred m limousine. It was built by chrysler most likely which is very unique these days right. Yes because for the most part like you're saying the industry standard is some company will get a hold of a cadillac or lincoln. Towncar cut in half like you say and then add to it and there's a stretch limousine. Yeah the process goes a little something like this They stripped that sound. Like i was gonna sing it all and a strip all the interior out protect everything. That's in there obviously Strickland says these fire resistant paper on everything. Yeah which sure why not. I guess you don't want to catch on fire doing it. you're going to mount it on a set of rails that can be adjusted to get your car off the ground. Keep it all aligned properly. Because when you're adding more car you have to have it super aligned. And then they cut the thing in two pieces. Yeah and not lengthwise no no. That'd be weird. I guess you can make it a lot wider. You're looking for length. And maybe that's the new limousine just rely Apparently the industry agrees that you typically can't go more than double the size the original size of the car. Yeah other After that it's probably not gonna pass any safety tests which we'll talk about a minute but once the cars cut in half. Hopefully you're remembered to put the car on these rails that it and that some of the rails are attached to adult so you can separate the car to the length you want if not you have to basically throw it away and start but so if you you pull one usually the rear back from the front and then you go and add Rails basically the extenders that they are going to lengthen the car. that's right And like i said your cars is temporarily braced to keep it from twisting or moving around you. Want to like to be super exact. Obviously because if the front of your car is half inch to the right from the rear of your car sped you're in big trouble you then you're going to add what's called the floor plan or floor pan. Sorry and basically the floor of the wemo which will later on become carpeted and upholstered and everything but for the time being assisted piece of metal. That is the floor of your new edition. Yeah and that is after you have done all the other boring stuff like extending the drive line. Oh yang sure you have because you know you're wiring long enough. Nothing is long enough and you just have to know because you just cut in half. Yeah like a huge gap. You literally just have to extend all those parts right You know the brake line all that boring stuff. You have to just extend all that stuff. yeah. I got excited about the floor. You stick in your floor pan and then you will hold on and say something about the floor pan in the drive line so you have extended the power train. Yeah right the thing that that big thing that like powers the back wheels that no one knows what is right. But you've extended that thing. Yeah you just. You're like powertrain warranty and people are always like what in the world's powered that's like the the steering and the axles and the the thing that that spins around and spins your rear axle and all that powertrain. It's true so you have to add to that because you've just cut through it again to your and then you add the floor pan Which is the floor of the limousine And do you remember that limousine fire. I think last year a couple years ago. Oh ride to be can the san mateo bridge Apparently they the california highway patrol investigated and ruled in an accident. But it was because the floor plan of the limousine they had been added later was up against the drive train and the friction noah created enough heat and spark that apparently there's a crack in the floor pan and that he came up and caught the upholstery on fire. And that's where the fire came from. Well was this modification that had taken place years before well which is one reason why Cadillac doesn't want their name on that limo. Let's say because it has been modified by someone other than cadillac right but cadillacs name is still on the limo as far as the. Us government is concerned once you cut a car and half and extended your the new manufacturer totally cadillac says. Well that's great. We've got a bunch of yahoos running around cutting our cars and half making them longer but if somebody sees it on the road or somebody sees a photo of it with the trunk burned out. Our names see the cadillac so cadillac and other companies. Like ford have programs to basically certify train and go back in investigate The people who are doing these conversions. Yes because we didn't mention but when you make a car substantially longer and heavier. You might have to modify the break some. You might have to modify how it turns you might have to reinforce the suspension or the frame itself. Because you can't just make a car twelve feet longer and expect it to behave the same way right exactly like the original stopping power was for the toll foot car at the twenty four foot car so you do have to do some modifications yet but those companies are super smart to have official programs. I think 'cause every car even if it is Modified later has to to be roadworthy has to pass the federal motor vehicle safety standards. This right cadillacs program was called the cadillac master coach. Builder program pretty awesome. Ford has something called the qualified vehicle modifier program and so basically they're saying hey if you're going to be doing this and you can legally do this. We're gonna make sure you do it right. Tried when the brightest minds at the university of florida come together. Something extraordinary happens. Engineering empowers medicine. 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I wanna go to branston sunday before smirnoff has his own place. They're going sure you means gonna take me. I'm surprised it hasn't happened. Kind of been going other places but In branson there's a thirty foot nineteen ninety-two pink. Cadillac stretch limousine. Yep that has a Shaped bet hot tub in the trunk area. That also has josh's fortieth birthday written over the go maybe fortieth birthday present. Yeah we'd be the limo itself like to own it. Yeah yeah just driving around atlanta. That'd be awesome drive around anywhere you could drive around branson it'd be fine. You've got like a hot tub in your car I love how strickland also points out. I don't know when this was written. Muslim has also have telephones installed. In case all fourteen of your cell phones or broken. I i made note of that as well. All right there are some other considerations if you want to Drive a limo because you can be a private person and drive them just like hire yourself out or work for some rich person. I thought you meant like the kind of person who keeps the himself or herself. No no no i mean. You don't have to necessarily work a limousine company. i got to. You can just buy your limo. And say i'm the limo driver right. You know or. I want to work because you have the proper hat. That's right you're fine in. Call yourself bidermann. yeah Licensing it depends on what state you're in It depends wildly some states. You can don't need any kind of special license. Some states say. Fill out this form. Sure probably give us fifty bucks some say. Bring your limo and Although how would you do that. If you're not licensed. I guess tow truck yeah Get your limo here in. Take this test in your limo to make sure you can drive that behemoth blindfolded mindful of the tests so it all depends on what state you live in Safety standards are the same for any other car like we said. Yeah and the car that you bought to convert already before you ever bought. It went through the the safety tests. Or but now that you've converted. It has to go through safety tests again right. So they include things like crash tests in if you're interested in that there's a limo crash tests on youtube. Oh really yeah. Does it show rich people inside like with their flying man. But you you. You're not down at the one percent are you now just Think a crash destiny in an evening gown. Might look funny. That's funny you say that because one of the ones I guess is some is australian fifth gear. Maybe it seemed like i don't know It was pretty cheeky. They were clearly drunk in the on the show but it was like It was a limo crash test and They put their clothes their evening gown in talks on crash test. Dummies so i mean. Wow yeah you have to look up. Fifth year limo I guess limo crash test is what would bring it up. And they're clearly drunk could stay spend the first like three minutes drinking. Yeah and mooning people out of the limo. And i'm like where's this thing from. I saw australian those wacky ozzy's but it's pretty cool crash test because they have some great camera setup they don't put seatbelts. I'm on the dummies. Flying around yeah. It's pretty neat crashed us. I do need to see that. Because that's exactly what i was describing and there's another crash test to way more boring. It's basically a series of still photos. Which i guess you can make the case like all videos are but sure this is like really slow still photo and hey listen. I don't want we always say do what you wanna do. I'm not gonna poo poo if you want to go out and hire limo and with your friends and drive around get drunk and go to a bunch of bars. That's fine you know. This is just not. Don't expect me to get in the car. Although i would say the wine country limo is not a bad idea. Oh sure yeah in fact. I think people in wine country aren't too happy about you know because it's like a party bus kinda thing. Yeah basically well. Hey man if you like have wine tastings every five feet. I know what do you expect. Yeah the everybody. There seems very cool. 'cause you don't wanna drink and drive. When it was. It was the off season so bit. Everybody was a little more mellow. Yeah because there weren't a bunch of tourists around. Yeah yeah no but you're right. The people that live in wine country northern california. They're nice laid back alive. They are fairly laid back. I think is a good way to put the best job in the world We have the best job in. That's right if we only made wine Gas in a toilet some prudhoe Gas mileage is a big consideration. Because you're not gonna get good gas mileage at all and you may as a company or an individual have to pay an extra gas guzzler tax on each vehicle in your fleet of that. It's basically like you know how you pay a lot of money for gas. Well now you have to pay even more money because your thing uses up so much gas. Those strictly mentions a Thirty two foot stretch hummer limo. That a guy named sean murphy. He misspelled his own name. on the cool fuel road trip he used a. He drove a hummer limousine. That ran on A bunch of different alternative fuels biodiesel methane ethanol vegetable oil sugar. Wow it could also use geothermal solar and wind energy any got the limo up to seventy five miles an hour which sounds illegal me. Yeah she's not be driving a thirty two foot anything seventy five miles an hour. I agree If you are interested in owning your own limousine To be your own private little driver depends on what kind you get. Of course you can get one like a lincoln stretch for thirty to forty grand sure or you may pay three hundred thousand if you want that. Super stretch hummer with the hot tub. I have the impression that that thirty grand lincoln stretch like the hubcaps. Come off when you take corners and stuff like that and you think so. And i also bet that the one of twenty bentley's yeah go for way more than three hundred k. Each do you ever see someone driving around in an old limo. It's clear it's just their car. A nineteen seventy catty limo. pretty sweet. It is so we put the same time. It's like that's a really poor choice. Yeah especially if like. You're you're on a tight budget right. The city with streets. How much money do you spend on gas. Yeah you know that's true Shout them out the window now. Very past someone. Should we talk about presidential limousines. A little bit because i think those are kind of interesting They call it the secret. Seven in this great Popular mechanics article. yeah in nineteen thirty nine. The sunshine special in up until this point. I think standard automobiles had been used to Dry presidents around and shuttle them but in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. This is we need something for the secret service. And we have a president In a wheelchair that his name is roosevelt. Certain considerations plus at least one attempt has been made on his life already so we might want to think about adding a little more security these cars. And that's exactly what they did. It was armored. The body was armored was built by Coach builders in buffalo new york had oversized hinge doors. I guess to account for that enormous wheelchair they had back then and Lots of armor plating and even bulletproof glass In nineteen thirty nine which is kind of impressive. yeah looks ago component car. If you ask me it's pretty sweet Then there is the nineteen fifty lincoln cosmopolitan yet. This is awesome. It was a truman presidential limousine. Yeah and it was basically for every with every new limousine that came along There were new. Innovations became heavier and sure More armor plated and just safer this one came with the bubble top Because it was a convertible. But truman realized that like if he had the top up yeah super-safe no one could see him right so he had the bubble top. Install kind of like the pope mobile. Yeah that's what i was gonna say. Is that what it's like. I think all right And that one Was retired to the henry ford museum. As was the sunshine special in dearborn michigan. So if you've ever been there you've probably seen a few of these on display. Kennedy's famous car That he was in in november. Twenty second nineteen sixty three when he was assassinated was a nineteen sixty one lincoln continental convertible obviously But it was still safe Not with the top down. Obviously but they had certain safety features built in They had a rear seat. That was while this wasn't a safety feature but that are rear seat that could be raised and lowered to give people a better view that a metal hoop behind the driver behind the driver's seat so when the president standing up they can hold onto something. Yeah but it was armored after his assassination with a permanent bulletproof hardtop and then left in the fleet. Which really surprised me. I would have thought they would have completely retired that car or just giving it to museum or asteroid it or something but yeah leaving in the fleet. That's penny pension. Yeah and that is in the henry ford museum now as well i'll bet Hundred seventy two lincoln continental That president ford and reagan the same car that they were both shuttled into after assassination attempts. Famously yeah this this. This is the limousine that reminds me of like old times square new york. Yeah like we're like basket case was set. You know like this never saw that. It's worth seeing at least once just to say you saw basket case right yeah old. Cd times square. I gotta just a taste of that. When i started going to new york in the in the ninety s there were there. Were still some peep shows and stuff around and it was just starting to be like disney fide. As i said i missed it entirely. I did miss much man alive. You can go to red lobster there now. I know it's funny. How people pine like remember remembered it was crappy and those crime and drugs institution everywhere. Oh don't understand being like this. Corporate stuff is sure is just dumb or whatever but people were very nostalgic for for old crappy times square. yeah The nineteen eighty-three cadillac. Fleetwood was used in the early nineteen eighty s and That one one of those there was a pair of him was used in the movie in the line of fire with clint eastwood. Yeah pretty neat member. He played the guy who didn't get the kennedy in time when he was assassinated. Him was his backstory. Yeah in john. Malkovich was like a total weirdo. Sure he was trying to. Who used the wooden gun move reasons and a lot of detail josh. Then there's the bush era yeah cadillac deville which is a i mean. I associate that with bush. I'm looking at it. Yeah it was a gm Oh i'm sorry. It was a cadillac deville of course but it was built on the frame of gm suv supposedly smart. Yeah five inch thick armor doors bulletproof glass so thick it blocks out parts of the light spectrum. Apparently so everything blue maybe from the inside and you go insane And it was rumored to feature a what they call they self-contained passenger compartment with its own. Secure air supply cool. So i guess just like a chamber to hide someone inside they're crazy. And then lastly check the most recent one came out in two thousand nine and it's a cadillac to And it came out. Just in time for obama's inauguration. Yeah and this when they started to be a lot more secretive about Like the how they're made. Yeah exactly makes sense But they have pretty good speculation that you know its armor plated underneath all around They think it's diesel-powered but they don't know for sure and Good luck like this thing. A tank on wheels. Good luck penetrating that cadillac. Yes you know so There's one other thing. I wanna point out if you're into limos especially extreme limos there's another popular mechanics Article called stretch it out ten extremely most that you sent yelich lamborghinis and stuff. Yeah lamborghinis monster trucks. And i looked it up. Apparently there's a lot of monster truck limos. yeah. I also found online delorean limo. Oh wow yeah. I'd like to see that. Yeah it's worth looking at There's a semi limo. Yeah that one is basically like a large apartment on wheels. Yeah like you're gonna have a party for fifty people. There's multiple bars. Did you see inside. It looks like an applebees on wheels because it affirmed bar. Yeah there's a lot of like Polish brass railings in the carpeting and the poster. It looks like an applebees. it's very strange. Will you can account for good taste. It looks pretty sweet though. Yeah i'm sure that Anybody who there's three three three. Different lounges in their. Wow three a mexican company converted us seven forty seven no a seven twenty-seven into A Ah limo took the wings off their tv shows out there that you can view all these things Extreme everything. I'm sure i'm sure there's also. Tv shows about the people who repo them. Yeah all right so if you are no more about limos you can start by typing that word in the search bar. How stuff works dot com. And since i said that it's time for listener mayo. I'm gonna call this funny homeless story if there is such a thing this April has been working in new york city. But i gather that she is in atlanta. And she's just there for work for a period of time to you justin chuck. I missed the old time square. She's heated say that no. I'm kidding She talks about how she listens to us on the train there on her commute new york city and she feels really bad for homeless people but especially when she sees a homeless person with a dog She says after passing several homeless people in new york. A people dog combos this weekend. My grand plan to stop a pet store get some dog food and treats and have cash available for the next homeless air so i could help out and hopefully have a conversation with them to make them feel human for a little bit. This is april year. awesome by the way yeah I bought my supplies in two blocks from the store. I see a homeless man with a husky. And i think perfect one of my dogs is a husky some partial to them after having a five minute conversation with michael petting his dog giving him dog food in some money for nice meal. Get ready to leave as About to walk away. He said thanks for the dog food. But it's not my dog. I'm just watching it for someone in the building. Awkward ultimately asked if the dog had home food. He said yes so asked. If i could take the dog food back so i could give it to a dog in need He agreed and hopefully he was able to get a nice meal himself and appreciated my conversation and didn't think i was too crazy Then went on to walk three blocks to my hotel with a relatively heavy bag of dog food without seeing another suspect. A good thing because it didn't have any more cash the person and it probably would have been weird to give a person dog food but nothing to help him or her me and my bag food will be walking around various new york city neighborhoods this weekend though because now my mission to help someone out it's been a good little reminder for me to be thankful for to have especially as we approach winter appear and that is from april. Cummings as very nice of you april. Very cool. I hope you find a homeless dog in person that you can help out. I if you want to share a story about you how you're making the world a better place we want to hear about it. 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The Cars of Breaking Bad

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The Cars of Breaking Bad

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They're free services getting the job done just got easier visit autozone DOT com today to learn more get in the zone autozone. Welcome to car stuff. A A production of iheartradio's. How stuff works? Good morning afternoon or night to all you car stuff fans out there whenever never it may be wherever you may be. I am Kirk Garin. I'm in the passenger seat again for this episode of Car stuff. I'll Scott his out on the road and although that bit of news may make you feel L. is if you aren't firing on all cylinders. I think I have the perfect fix for all you. Car stuff lug nuts to my left in the driver's seat as a car stuff legend. I am thrilled to reintroduce been bowling. It's a pleasure to have today. been thank you so much for having me on the show man this is surreal to me. This is the first podcast I ever did. And and I am thrilled to be back. I have been doing a lot of stuff. Man I've been on the road like Scott as well but thank you for having me no problem and thanks for being here So I guess we can start by you telling everybody what you've been up to in this period of time. Yeah yeah so I hello to all of our long time I'm listeners. I saw a lot of us Returning to the car stuff facebook page in the social media and so on I like Mark Twain. Assure were you that. The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated right I've you neue Kurt nowadays. We're all in the GIG economy so I've been doing. A bunch of schemes is in a side jobs and Still been doing the podcasting stuff. I'm on Stuff they want to know ridiculous history of making a lot a lot of shows but have also been producing developing stuff. And I've been on the road most recently. I was in Alaska for the first time. Have you ever been to Alaska. It's amazing it's like the last frontier and we had to get a rental car and got a GMC Acadia which is like a mid size suv. He kinda crossover thing. It was pretty neat Because I still drive my old Monte Carlo. So every time I'm in a car was made after two thousand six. I feel like I'm sitting in the future. You know what I mean I and Oh yeah that's true. I should point out for everyone. My monte-carlo is still around The transmission still still is still a little little sleepy little squirrelly but I just love not having a car payment and as will come to find Monte Carlos are you're icon ick vehicles you and I were talking off air. Kerr about a couple of things leading up to this episode. There are some spoiler. Alerts have to come come into play. Because you and I talked about El Camino which I didn't know that you and I personally have some background with. Oh Yeah Yeah and we might save that for future episode but we also talked about the new breaking bad film El Camino right right. Which makes this topic? I have even go ahead and say what the topic is now. We should probably get. Let's do that at the beginning. Yeah we'RE GONNA be talking about the cars of breaking bad so El Camino Oh has just been released to the world and we both seen it and inspired us to revisit this particular topic because the characters drive cars kind of fit their a personality in a way. Yeah we do have to say that spoilers will be present in this show. We're not going to go out of our way to ruin the show for anyone who hasn't seen it but if you have not seen breaking bad yet. It is an excellent piece of television. Go ahead and pause this watch the entire show and then come back back. We'll wait You have to watch the whole show but do be warned seriously. There'll be some light spoilers. Both from breaking bad in a little bit from the a follow up film El Camino. Kurt if someone asked you to summarize breaking bad in just a couple sentences wh what would you say. I think you did a pretty great summation of it off the air earlier. Basically the show is about Walter White. He's a high school chemistry teacher. And this is all in the first I episodes. So he finds out he has inoperable lung cancer He then tours a meth lab that his brother-in-law just busts up with the DA eh. He sees how much money that drug dealers are able to attain. So he decides. He wants to use his chemistry skills to cook meth and partners up with a student a former student one of his name Jesse Pink Mint Aka Captain Cook. Right Captain Cook. He then comes up with a scheme to Cook Meth to make money for his family because he only has two years to live No yeah his brother-in-law's a DA agent and his son has cerebral palsy. And his wife is pregnant and Chemo. Of course is tremendously expensive tremendously traumatic. He's got on his. y'All says poor healthcare so he he has come up with a plan for that too and he's got a family to support I got two kids Cetera et CETERA. It starts in dire times and it quickly escalates. The timeframe of the whole show takes place over two ears. Men autozone has the free services. 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Nationwide autozone is here to help you save time and money with their free services visit autozone DOT com today to learn more about the free services. Get in the zone autozone. I think that's a fantastic synopsis of it. And that gets us right where we need to be to explore some of the cars so when we talk about the cars of breaking breaking bad we owe a lot to a guy named Dennis Milliken. Dennis Milliken is a transportation coordinator. This is a dream job for a lot folks essentially he oversees all of the cars trucks vehicles for any production. Both on and offscreen select. The vans is that Dr Actors to and from the set. He's in charge of that if there's a Ferrari he's also in charge of the Ferrari. He's literally the car guy. He he got his start on a show called Dallas and he's worked in TV and film ever since you can see some of his stuff in Robocop some stuff in twenty twenty four. It's weird to me that someone could have a job that important then that pivotal and still be kind of a name that people might not not commonly no sir So Dennis Milliken worked closely with the Creator. Breaking bad Vince Gilligan. To Scout Out Out Cars and just Kirk just picture this as good h AP okay. What if today instead of doing our usual pike stuff you and I just go out and Atlanta and we have a list of fictional characters like a short description of what they're about what their thing is and we just walk around around the city looking for cars? That seem like the kind of cars these fictional characters would drive. Yeah that is yeah. That's what Dennis Milliken does an anyway he would send Vince Gilligan. Pictures and they'd be like I don't know that's that's too cool for Walter White or that cars too nice for Jesse Pinkerton. Let's find line a better fit and they applied this process to everything. Now we're talking about cars. I gotTa tell you in one of the I. I don't don't want to be offensive of course because it's your money. You should buy drive what you want but one of the things that really hit me when I first saw breaking bad was how much which I hated. Walter White's original car. The two thousand four Pontiac Aztec you remember that one right. Yeah those kind of a dull green color. had factory are- aluminum wheels. But the one on the rear driver's side was missing and replace like just your standard steel spare looking looking wheel. It's pretty sad and decrepit car and in the first episode. He has trouble shutting the glove. Box that's right. The troubles start just from the get go with this particular car and I think it was. Yes I think it was known for being a not a terribly great vehicle. I mean. That's the thing so the Pontiac as tech was made in two thousand one. I think they've I hit the market. Two thousand one two thousand five and and they're crossovers. You know what I mean so it depends on what you want out of it. It's got a four speed automatic transmission V six engine. We've got some good stats. That's you know. That's a three point. Four liter engineer the problem with it is that for a lot of people. Maybe there's an aesthetic thing but for a lot of people across AH crossover is a compromise right. It's it's for someone who says I want a sedan. I want to be able to see you know more than two people. People have pickup truck or something but I also want to be able to change that into a cargo hauler. If need be the crossover replaced I station wagon and a lot of ways and this particular one has a very wagon. Feel to it. Although it's definitely bulky car. The particular color of this car reminds me a little bit of the trumpster from vacation this not as olive green but especially the front end. We've got like four holes for the grill. Will it just looks very weird. And the fact that it's a pontiac. At the end of pontiacs existence may have had something to do with the results. This car received SARS reviews go. Yes I did have some poor reviews. And it's interesting because it's highs into the story of Walter White in a very very real in depressing way definitely yeah so. GM said okay. We're going to sell seventy five thousand Aztecs. Every year Pontiac techs that means we need need to create thirty thousand every year to break even the models. bestselling year was two thousand and two They sold a little bit less than twenty eight eight thousand so they weren't meeting demands one of their big problems. This ties into Walter White. One of their big problems was that the Aztec was too expensive sensitive for the consumers they were trying to pitch in is like car for Generation-x you know you've grown up. It's Nice I like vote now however mortgage by an Aztec but the problem was it was more expensive than a lot of other competing vehicles in the same space so when we see Walter Sir whites increasingly busted up Pontiac Aztec. We're seeing not only a guy who's got money problems but guy probably paid too much for his car. That's that's the implication and he's trying to ride it out for as long as he can right exactly. Yeah because now's not the time to buy a new car even in after how. How many times is the windshield? Get broken three that I can remember kind of becomes like a comedic thing in the show for for the first time it breaks Jesse breaks with Iraq or something and then he runs into a couple of rival drug dealers and the classic scene from the show and breaks the windshield again finally meets its maker towards the end of the series when He intentionally crashes it to try to throw his brother-in-law off the trail. The car has has a nice run in the show though and it definitely parallels wall's existence it I I love that senior talking about where will intentionally crashing car whereas has da Agent brother-in-law. You're also telling me that offscreen. They were using not one but multiple as tax correct. They had the regular one and I guess they would use as waltz driver and then they had a couple of other ones a crash vehicle and parts vehicle in another crash veal. I think they have three total. And that's very very common for a lot of ONSCREEN vehicles. Yeah you got the vehicle that is just for exterior shots not the stunt vehicle. Then yeah the vehicle just for parts hearts or vehicle for maybe modified so that one can film inside usually mean. There's never just one car but there is one kind of car that I have always been a huge fan of spite the fact that they are far from perfect. And that my friend is the Chevy Monte Carlo Jesse AC- Pinkerton when we meet him under the moniker. Captain Cook drives a nineteen eighty two monte-carlo low rider. I like these. It's very much a personal opinion of mine. But the one thousand nine hundred Monte Carlo. Low Rider is from the fourth generation of the Monte Carlo or low dynasty from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty-four. Let's get a restyled body. It's the two door coupe. Lay Out and there are different engine options and so John to be this is a classic car. I have not driven this kind of well. That's not true. I have driven this money. Carl I I've never owned one in this story Ori Jesse's Monte Carlo very much looks like a small time criminals busted up cards dirty. You know. He's got doesn't we have like a vanity license. Plate says the captain captains kind of spelled like Captain Crunch C. A. P. Definitely Jesse Pink. Men's type vehicle. Yeah and it also has hydraulics. Well yeah a classic scene in the show when To goes having the gun battle with Hank and it turns into a standoff old bless style in the desert with bouncing Hoop Dee Toco grows in their window grabbed for his gun and it switches on the hydraulics of the cars sitting here bouncing. It's right on battles about the pop off all the while Jesse in Walter in the Bush is hiding from Toco who is a real scary dude. abound Syed Hoop team. I you know it's it's interesting. I've got to ask you. What do you think of that style of Monte Carlo is at two old school for you do like like him would you drive it? Yeah Yeah I like that era of car and it had some scoop to it What's what's top out? Oh I believe the Max speed is one hundred and three miles per hour. Yeah it's zero to sixty I think is just a little over fifteen seconds for the time. That's that's not us some terrible. That makes that makes you think you know if I were a small time drug dealer I would I would appreciate having a little bit zip ride. You know just in case. Ace The customisations. That Jesse had on his car. Dad's a very good meals on it. The spoked wheels and a low rider to. Yeah so when you know bouncing all around things rattled loose and whatnot And he's just a speed bump away from winning. Yeah and so. This car essentially is a snapshot of Early Jesse. Pink has some potential but is is not very well care for and dirty and has not lived up to its potential at this point. Of course People Watch watch breaking bad before know that Jessie does not spend the rest of his life in the show driving a monte-carlo which is unfortunate. Because if you just fixed stood up a little bit man or not put the hydraulics on it anyway. we know that there is a nother pivotal vehicle that comes uh-huh relatively early in the story of the show and it's not a car right. It's not a crossover. It's not a sedan. What is it well? Then it's an RV and to be specific vegas a nineteen eighty-six fleetwood bounder that. Jesse nicknames. The Crystal ship. Yes with a K.. Yes that is correct. So the FLEETWOOD rebounder they have to be honest with you I love. RV's growing up. I always had the romantic notion of traveling. The world are traveling the country at least on an eternal road trip in an RV. We've had fat folks who have written to me to demystify the idea right when they say well actually drive in our we can have its ups and downs you gas mileage surprise not that great You gotta find the hookups. The depreciation on the things can be tough as well and even though I know all of that is true. I still really really want to the one. You know the option now walt and Jesse when they get the RV. They're not getting it to you on a road trip No no they decided early on that this is this is where they need to cook. Their meth wall. Can't very well cook it at his house. In Jesse doesn't want to cook it at his house. Either for obvious the reasons So they decided a mobile. Meth lab is the way to go and Jesse is tasked to go out and find this. RV Wall runs into the bank and comes out with. I don't know if the mount is specified or not All say this is life savings of less than seven thousand dollars so between six and seven probably closer thirty seven thousand dollars and they. It doesn't go according to plan now so fleetwood. RV Or fleetwood enterprises is is the company that makes these sadly went bankrupt in two thousand nine. I think they filed for Chapter Eleven. which is so weird because in two thousand seven they were the top selling manufacturer of RV's in the market? So I don't I don't know the the entire story behind that but in two thousand eight they were already closing Factories across the US. Yeah so Scott and I just did an RV episode. WHO'll so it's up there for you guys to check out but after the housing bubble bursts the RV industry has been gone a full on decline two thousand nine? It seems a little soon for them to just completely collapsed but maybe they just got out of the game while they're getting was good there. We'll get purchased by a private equity. Woody firm called American industrial partners and then another group CAFO industries. There were buying different pieces of the companies who bought their manufactured housing. They made a lot of that and then. AIP bought their RV assets in so fleetwood. RV Is still still around. Now it's headquartered in Decatur. Indiana essentially what happened is these different. Companies acquired the trademarks so while the fleetwood enterprises entity is gone. You can still see their lives on in name only the king is dead long live the king etc etc with. RV's so there's another vehicle here. I want your take on Kirk. Because this league assists questions that helped me learn a lot about people. The nineteen ninety-one jeep grand wagoneer which is driven by. Walt's wife Safe Schuyler. Leads me to ask you. Are you a jeep person. Now I'm not a g person but I do. I really dig this particular car. Why is that was that it doesn't look like a jeep first of all It's it's This was the first luxury four by four. It doesn't look like it would be a luxury car But it just. It looks as the Wood Wood paneling on the side and while at least to me is one of the cooler cars in the whole show. DOES GPS go. I'm not a huge fan and like the like the. Cj Five her would ever forget the number the one that used to flip over all the time. Perfect right right. Yeah they do it how they were driven to. Yeah that's the thing I it's a known problem but the Jeep Wrangler was also known for rolling over when people would literally turn the wheel to quickly. So the wagoneer doesn't suffer from the same prevalence. That's right but this was also interesting. Here is that nineteen ninety. One I want to say was the last year of production from this vehicles. Correct correct but this particular card did have the longest production run or the third longest production run the news automotive history. So that's kind of NEAT. Nice yeah so if we were to speculate the show runners logic for choosing this car for Schuyler Schuyler than we could say. Let's see it's. It's a four by four but its luxurious right. It's the first luxury four by four. It's established and it's at the end of its line you know. So maybe there's a deeper statement about their character a strong person capable of going on the rougher roads but also with a taste for the finer things in life. I don't know man. Yeah I was trying to imagine. This car are being one that they may have gotten when they first got together. Maybe around the time they I got married. Maybe he was their only car at the time they splurged on a nice like like this may be a single owner vehicles. What I'm saying and it wasn't the get go? Yeah that's kind of. That's how I imagine it. It's not explicitly stated in the. Let me ask you this. This Kurt If you were entirely hypothetical for everybody listening to this show my good buddy. Kurt here is not a drug dealer. But if you were Not a small time like Captain Cook Level Drug Dealer if you were a successful higher end criminal what what kind of vehicle would you drive. I had to use my head a little bit on this one. Nothing to flash nothing too flashy maybe something like Nine Hundred Ninety eight Volvo v seventy. That's very specific. I liked that you thought this out. That is the car driven by gusts. The chillingly robotic tenacious incredibly audibly organized calculated calculated. Great were there mastermind of a global meth empire. WHO also by day? Hey is the is the proprietor of the very highly rated local fast food restaurant though spoil. Simone de Yeah which you know? He's the chicken man. Yeah it may be the most well known non-existent restaurant ever true. I've I've a t shirt from play. They Ronaldo's does exist and breaking badland again and I'm sure that there have been other Maybe there've been fan events. Where are they create? A police amounts for the day Everything about this character gusts is focused on making him look innocuous in in fact one could say his error is that he is too successful and being innocuous he supports the local. Policeman's ball I think at one point. Someone puts a tracker on his car and they see that he literally gives the same route at the same predictable times times all the time to clean as to cleaning. I if you wouldn't be believable you've got to have a little bit of dirt on your fingernails there The Volvo v Seventy is very much one of those reliable dependable cars that is meant to function as a daily driver. It's not there to be flashy. It's not to be impressive. You're not gonNA pull up to a traffic light and then show off to the car next to you. And you're probably not doc in rev the engine to see if they'll race you when most people hear the word Volvo they think safe right discuss for you right there just to safe very calculated very safe very quiet and So as as Volvo this is strange because we are building a case where each of the cars you see. It's weird when you think about these main characters have all been introduced. I with a car in some way. Now let's take a look at another car. We've mentioned hank the agent several times. What what is he drives? And what does it say about the car that we see him in most as a two thousand six jeep commander so that would be a D. A. issued vehicle his partner Steven Gomez has the same color. Same type of car so you can assume that was just a standard issue car for these folks in the DA around the time and this is you. You know I I gotta be honest I like GPS. You know. I've never owned one. Well like him. I should say I've never owned one and I've never ruled on over. So maybe and maybe maybe I just I was just been turning the steering wheel too slowly but this does feel like it is a statement about the Guy Right Just the fact that it's even named commander you know it's the kind of car that would appeal to that kind of person. Y- yeah it's a good vehicle to It's like the Pontiac. Aztec goes through a lot in the course of the show right. Yeah it does have several lights and it's implied that he gets it repaired pretty quickly and then gets back on the road right even after there was a shootout yet and the shootout. With Toco Jesse's car was involved. The the commander also gets shot up pretty badly and it does show up again later. Same license plates so it's assume that it was prepared but it could have been replaced and had the same license license plate popped on a new car and then it also gets shot up again later in the show when a couple of characters known as the cousins attack Hank and apart art and that's a fairly intense scene as well. Hey He's in the center of some of the most intense scenes in the show. Oh yeah like. He's all talk to walk again and he's he collects minerals in the first episode of the series. Hank is not a very likable character. Guy Guy that is kind of not just but also you get divide these a bit insecure and so revealed throughout the show that he does have the side even actually one of the most likeable characters by the end of the show like him and Jessie are the ones that kind of come out unscathed. I think yeah and also speaks to the depth of the the writing and the story. Because you're right. When we first meet Hank he is kind of a bully? He's condescending to waltz. You get this feeling feeling that he doesn't have much respect for this guy because he says you know I'm law enforcement I deal with bad bad dudes and and deal with You deal with high schoolers. Yeah so let's let's level set here buddy and it turns out these completely wrong and his brother-in-law. Aw becomes this evil super villain right and that all may play into the psychology with Wall E has a lot of potentially knows. He can do things and he has this potential attention this great mind and he never got the chance to show it and flex and I think that if there is any redemption for waltz character. It's the he does get to show that he's is capable of something right right and we see that. Come out when there's a particular scene I'm remembering where in Walt has a couple of drinks first and then starts saints real out of pocket stuff stuff. You should not say if you want your drug empire to remain a secret of so we we see that there's a little bit of instability already showing in Walter White's character speaking of instability. WanNa hit this one real quick without spending spending too much time on it the two thousand eight VW Beetle. Driven by Hank's wife Marie breeze far from my favorite character in the story. Now I do like Beatles. I like the older ones I don't know about you. Are you a bug fan. Wonder what happened to all of them. That's all it's weird all the time. Yeah Yeah will you still feel like Oh you know what it is man. I feel like I see them all the time because I is someone who lives in. My neighborhood has one so I just see all the time. Yeah and AH the beetle itself has such a fascinating history which I think we did an episode on a few years back back so do check out that one. If you're interested of course everybody knows what. The Volkswagen Beetle is the bug which has tons of other nicknames. Did did you. Did you know about this now. Okay so I'm not gonna read all of these but in other languages it turns out the VW beetle has tons of nicknames. It's called the Peta or turtle in Bolivia it's called the bug here in the. US of course is called the keever in Belgium and the Netherlands. It's called the Kodak or frog in Indonesia. The list just goes on. Oh it's called the Fox in Pakistan I you know without without being disrespectful toward the VW. Beetle I definitely wouldn't describe it as a quote unquote foxy car. No it's kind of opposite of that. Yeah yeah also throughout the show. Hank's wife worry is just a continual source of problems rather than solutions which I find it interesting too interesting because everything she wears his of that Purple Hue. Oh that's right few times in the show. Does she wear a different color. And I think that may be black but you know everything is purple that she has in her car. I think it's as close as they could get it to purple. It's this dark blue very unattractive dark blue collar VIA MARIE IS A. I mean she's kind of a little. Bit of a KLEPTOMANIAC. movingly would Ya. With Hank's character allows him to show kind of his sweet side. I think you become more endeared with hank seeing him interact with his wife. I think she takes the beetle and runs over this child's RC. Car at one point and Hey goes over to the kid. And Kinda just slips them some money and as Marie speeds off in her frantic state Hank deals with outside. His hard exterior is kind of soft and understanding. Yeah plus he's a his wife's sitting here stealing all this stuff and he knows about it and he's law enforcement so kind of says like look turns a blind eye to his wife at least maybe he can understand wall but he never you know you'd never understand that at that moment where maybe this is where the show is going to go but yeah never ever was gonna go there and there are so many different directions that the show I could have taken. It got a chance to explore some other possible avenues of story not in breaking combat but in the spin off better call Saul better call Saul of course takes Bob odenkirk character Known introduced to us as as Saul Goodman WHO's a scheming? Lawyer in breaking bad Saul Goodman drives a nineteen ninety seven Cadillac Deville. It's it's a secret man. I like cadillacs. I'm down for you know I come from a long line of people who like land yachts and and I don't aim on changing changing now This can you tell us a little bit about The Cadillac Deville question. Another vanity plate says up on this one L. W. why are. Up So lawyer up think is kind of a success symbol for him in fact in better call Saul one of the characters winters was marco. Jimmy McGill saw original name. Is Jimmy McGill. Slipping Jimmy He should get a Cadillac back when he becomes a lawyer. Obviously as soon as Sol Bakar Jimmy or Saul becomes a lawyer he gets his Cadillac. And did you notice that Vince. Gilligan appears to have a thing with vanity plates if someone has a vanity plate. He's implying that there's something trashy about them a little bit. Yeah yeah lawyer up right. Yeah and we also know that deals make another appearance later in the show when Walter White drives in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven Deville sedan on spoiler alert the last day of his life right and coincidentally enough it is his fifty second birthday. The show begins on his fiftieth birthday. And with his this cancer diagnosis. He is given that two year timeframe so we said Waltz starts off his criminal career as the proud owner of a Pontiac Aztec check. That is not the only car he drives throughout the show. He drives that Deville sedan for like a day or two but then he also sue drives a two thousand twelve Chrysler. Three hundred which I believe was a birthday gift? Yeah is a birthday gift to himself after he Wrecks rex his Aztec on the way to take hank to observe the Meth lab. He takes his asset to a mechanic and sell it to the mechanic for fifty bucks. I believe and then goes out and purchases himself a two thousand twelve Chrysler. Three hundred. Thirty eight is interesting. That cars the two thousand twelve model because of the timeframe in which the show takes place right this would be two thousand ten get thousand ten right. The show begins in nine so later buys birthdays days and these are pretty cool cars. I mean four hundred seventy horsepower. Six point four Liter v Eight. I would I just going to put it out there my birthday earthy August. I think that's a great president To get anyone doesn't have to be me treat yourself in what may have been taken a little bit of inspiration from Gus us with this particular car. I'm however it stands out it does stand out a little bit and stands out a little more definitely more Volvo for sure. Yeah Yeah and more than as tech acas well yes yeah or stands out at least a different way but as you saw earlier in the show having a busted up car could lead to you being countered by the police. I believe after the windshield gets broken. First Time Walt is pulled over and pepper sprayed and arrested. I forgot I totally forgot about that. Let's go to Jesse's next CAR member. He was originally driving that Monte Carlo low rider he ends up pushing a nineteen eighty six Toyota tercel now Toyota. TERCEL CZ are not for everybody. They're not compact cars. Technically their subcompact cons. That's how small they are. I had an experience with nineteen eighty one or sal. I want to say The put put me off of them for the rest of my life. So I do not. I do not agree with this. Choice on Jesse's part but Jesse finds this car in a junk yard right yes so Interesting tie in here with the Chevy El Camino when Jesse takes the RV to Clovis Services Junkyard. Yeah he needs a car to drive away and he is eyeing a Chevy El Camino but he can't swing the cost so he is then directed towards this Red Treselle. Yeah with the idea literally be that he just needs transportation. Yeah right there's some people say this also marks a A stepping stone in Jesse's evolution into a more mature person because he doesn't get a flashy vehicle vehicle or he doesn't pimp this worn out right although the idea of pimping out it's her cell is is pretty fascinating. If anybody listening has some photos of please send them along or post on the car. Stuff facebook page. I would love to see them. There's one last car though that we have to talk about it is by I. Four one of the coolest cars is Show and I think we're on the same page about that. The two thousand Twelve Dodge Challenger S. RTA eight yeah this kind of shows up in conjunction with the two thousand twelve Chrysler three hundred S Rt.. I'm there's that weird scene in the driveway when wall and Walt Junior revenue engines and the Scott. This music going on. It just comes across as being an ad which the cars weren't even out in the context of the show yet I can't figure out if it was Vince. Gilligan's away of making it just completely obvious this comical and stands out which fits the whole purpose of being in there in the first place. And then there's the thing where walters bragging to his brother-in-law the specs or something and just got like he's like he's reading a sheet right right right. I mean they're great things but dodge challenger but it does stick out a little bit. Yeah instinct let's take a break from the plot and Let me tell you a little bit more about the Dodge Challenger In case you were considering moving on from your jeep commander. Why don't you look for something with six point? Four liter. V Eight in four seventy horsepower. Power I'm just GONNA go on for Awhile. You know what I mean right. That also symbolizes this feeling of success owning your dream vehicle L. is aspirational note. I mean and everybody even if they don't consider themselves quote unquote kar nuts or something like everybody. He has a dream vehicle of some sort and for Walt this dodge challenger feels like the attainment mint of something that was previously unattainable. You know what I mean. It's interesting because at this point in the show he has enough money to by an exotic cars supercars something but instead of course there are thousands of problems with that. What's that guy doing with the Bugatti in his driveway? We actually don't know if he could have afforded a body at that time. Scratch that But you know what I mean. Higher envious sure. Yeah Maybe that's it's too flashy but the dodge challenger is still also very flashy for his neighborhood for where he's at in life no especially just to pay cash. It's a big step. I mean we're talking. It's a year from when we met Walter White. I kind of get that vibe from just the character that this may be like his I I knew a used car guy. Yeah so not only does he buy one but he buys two he buys one for himself is is one for his son as well. That's so nuts to me. You know I The idea of walking in somewhere and buying two cars at once with cash new used car guy through and through just because just because honestly I'm a little bit too cheap for in a way I mean I guess it is flashy for Wall in a subtle way. It's definitely shows his evolution as a character over the short span of a year. Well here's the question to who owns that Dodge Challenger says Walter White own it or does Heisenberg. You know what I mean like. which was the JEKYLL and Hyde by the car? In the that's that's an interesting question but speaking by the car. That's something we should. That's something we should squeeze him. We would be remiss if we dimension the Skirt Ladies and gentlemen. It turns out that if you were plugged in and if you if you had Some pretty fortunate timing and a little bit of scratching Cheddar to burn. You could have actually bought some of the cars from breaking bad autozone. 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They had an auction of some of the cars from the show they auctioned off the tercel At a starting bid of you've fifty five hundred bucks so eventually sold for seven thousand two hundred dollars. They auction off some of the other cars as well. Like scholars jeep and Waltz as take one of those has texts. I think it was one of the crash. Cars Interestingly enough they auctioned off. Todd's El Camino so that was like they gave up one of the one of the cars that was going to be Shown in the future which is interesting. Nineteen seventy-eight Cheviot community. The we should just do an episode and El Camino Man. I I was thinking about this. I was I was thinking about this earlier. This week I was looking back through. Small pictures of Alchemy does. It's weird. How you don't see them on the road? Food is often anymore and I I would be driving would you. Yeah I think so they if I had one though it'd be one of those cars where it's kind of reached classic status. Yeah so you WANNA drive it. Just collect it. But I'm not one to collect cars. I feel like car should be driven. So yeah definitely. L. Communities are awesome is very. I have multiple friends who always drive pickup trucks or something like in L. A. Camino primarily Lee so that they don't have to be the person driving everybody around because they can just say. Oh Yeah we're going down as a group I can take one person with me You can hop in this guy's SUV or something. Yeah also when you have a truck people want you to help them move. Yeah but I feel like the L. Kominos so small small that you can't really use it as a truck either. No it's such a compromise too because if you pack the bed of an El Camino the way one would pack the bed of a pickup pickup truck then the bottom is going to be all sorts of Wonky. You know what I mean. It just doesn't have the lewd bearing capability. Yeah last thing that to say about this auction. Walter White's as tech one of them Did go up at auction as well. I believe the starting bid for the AZTEC ASTEC was one thousand mainly because it needed a lot of work and I think the most expensive starting bid was actually actually. VW Beetle. Wasn't it. Yep So if you had to pick and I think I know the answer here if you had to pick any vehicle from the vehicles we've discussed or the vehicles not on our list today any vehicle from the breaking bad university drive. What would you pick I would probably GONNA in a change it up here. I think I said in the beginning that skyler jeep was my favorite car from the show which still may remain true. Okay and I think I would choose. Jesse's tercel no seriously. Yeah what I'd car catch Bax Okay and you could consider this one a hatchback back sure. Yeah that's why I'm going to go with. I'm going to go todd's commune. Oh Man. I've got the El Camino fever. Couldn't drive it though. I just todd at tainted that that car yes. Al Model Year but not touched by the type of person that you. I just don't want to be around anything that had to do with him. Bad News Yeah. They're making something Haydn and El Camino that you didn't know was there or something also weirds me out a little bit the actor playing todd. Great actor he plays that role just so well. That guy looks so much like Matt Damon. A A little bit is What am I watched a kept thinking that was Matt Damon? But you know maybe have some kind of weird face blindness or something I I. It was definitely focused. More on the main characters and more on the cars Kurt. It has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me On car stuff anytime anytime. You're to come back. I know that this episode was more of a list right. We're exploring television. Shows chose well but in the future in your cool with it. I think we should do a whole episode on story the El Camino. And maybe let's see what our odds of getting the elk meals resurrected. Are those definitely. 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Hour 1: Suey Category: Best Michael Doleac Songs

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He claims that they mean a lot to him and his only time that he uses them or talks about them or touches. Them is when he plays golf, it's really odd. These are thick wool socks like you would wear these during a snowstorm Dan I'm not joke as a layer the put it on the poll at Lebatardshow would you keep an wear your surgery socks wild golfing year and a half later billy is nodding his head vigorously. Everyone keeps us hospitals, thoughts absolutely everyone and if you haven't family member friend or whatever. That's the hospital and you see sometimes there's extra socks just in the corner. When you visit them, you give them a balloon you give flowers or whatever, and you're like, Hey, these extra socks site, you want to merge these up for grabs I take these socks home like what's the deal here? They're free socks, Dan you don't. Take free socks the best and they're the kind of socks that you know you kind of decide which foot you WANNA put it in. You also decide that I want this one to be the top this to be the bottom because they have that rubber grip on both sides don't slipping. You don't fall the next best socks to hospital socks socks from trampoline parks. Those are basically shoes to grips on those are insane. Billy's ride the problem with. Gregg. Though is I have no objection to him all the the socks keeping the sauce it's wearing them on one hundred and seven degree day to play golf I mean that's that's my only objection. The worst socks are the ones you get when you're trying on shoes at a shoe store, right? We can all agree there for ranking socks. System. Love when Chris Cody slink out of zoom shamed of what it is he's just added to the conversation the Miami Heat I don't know whether they're the national story today because Lebron did the thing last night where you can be amazed by Lebron did but the heat of pulled off the biggest. And History in the playoffs and Greg Cody is nominating them for America's Team Status Right now, Greg Cody of the Miami Herald covered the game last night by sitting in front of his television, his underwear, and then going to a computer in his underwear and writing old timey column in that column. Have you proclaimed the Miami Heat America's team? I didn't in the Columbine I am exclusively right now on your air because you know Lebron is always going to be the national story right but I think the heat or the feel good story. I think he or and I'm not just talking about South Florida in Miami I think the heat or a team that that America can get behind the they've got all the elements got Jimmy Butler. Proving that he's elite that he's top level, not a secondary star. They've got Bam at a bio just blossoming in front of us. They've got gorn drug edge. Reserve all season now starting and shining tyler hero who has a guy nick new last name is hero. This is the Miami Heat I. Mean This is King you get behind and I think it's a I. Think it's a fun game that the first five seed to reach a conference finals since two thousand and thirteen I. Think a great little story happening down here lest you think that Greg Cody is the biggest heat homer in the world. Boys. They should be the national story. GonNa. Be I say that's how you know what a national story is whatever leads the a block with I take. It's Lebron it's Lebron, and after that it's going to be about Yoenis. It's going to be about the teams, the Miami Heat unless maybe it's Boston because Jason Tatum. Is At that superstar level research questioning everything he does I will push back on the notion that there are a lovable underdog there underdog but Jimmy Butler out here to be lovable you know this is an angry team and I think for the most part people aren't happy that the Miami Heat are back out there in the Eastern Conference finals. They've spent the majority of their basketball loving lives, not liking this Miami Heat Team I. Don't really think they're gonNA rally around Jimmy Butler now who in terms of villains in the NBA is one of the top notch Batty's laws America's team lovable underdogs can never be team that's run by Pat Riley, it's just it's not GonNa happen I it will never ever happen not today not tomorrow not twenty five years from now America will never get behind that man they are going to be the lowest seeded advancing. We're going to get probably chalk except for them they have disrupted the bubble in sport where the team that is best. Is the one that advance is almost predictably like a metronome what has just happened here is the buck season has fallen apart for all the reasons that people doubted them to begin with playoff basketball as half court basketball This is an epic failure for the Milwaukee Bucks to have that regular season and end up as a team out in the second round to a team in. Miami that no one expected to be in that situation before the season started and they lost with the best player on the court indisputably no matter how good you think Jimmy. Butler. Is they indisputably lost with the MVP, the defensive player of the year and the best player on the basketball court. We're going to talk more Miami Heat next but we've got more Greg Cody homer talk here. That man he's money yes, GREG Well, listen to this two years in a row for Jaanus right, and now he's put himself in a position where you know he, he's superstar who can't do it alone. Get some help or join another team and and He could be the byproduct of that America's team could pick up the Greek freak in. Great getting better maybe. So. If you're not familiar with what happened here during the local hour billy called Jaanus a known liar and Greg Cody is also here to fan the flames on Janas coming to Miami even though you honestly said, flatly I will not be traded I'm not going to be traded. 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So we are having this week our series, it's basically a celebration from a year of stupid awful terrible things we've done and occasionally some sparkling moments we've got the best Mikel Dole EAC song going to make an appearance at some point in the next couple of hours What a wonderfully random category that is, we do have a total of many many songs how many songs Chris, did you cut down the? Songs how many. I don't know exactly head I believe it's like six or seven. Okay and how about back in my day because there is another Sui that is best back in my day in honor of your father how many of those are there in the final category? We have about six or seven of those as well as. I said a head count on these things. I don't know exactly how many of them are an entire segment dedicated to Greg Cody listening to Greg Cody Oh that's this is his dream scenario here. Greg, do you have a back in my day? A new one? Ready Right now in order to to send it into let's tease this. Coffee proceedings here I like that. Yeah we've got We've got cow brandon, the next segment, but let's go ahead and figure out how to get ready for back in my day right here to get you ready for the Sui for best back in my day go head Mike. Now it is time to take a trip down memory lane. Here's your guy rig could. With back in my day Ours. Look around fellow motorists. Any road anytime anywhere and you will notice that by degrees cars, regular passenger cars sedans are going the way of the hand Crank Model T. and the. Panel station. Wagon. The former king of the road dethroned. Drawn the conclusion just by circumstantial observation over the past few years noticed a crick in my neck as increasingly I had to look up at the car next to me to stop light. Here, I am in my ordinary car level ride in all around here, behemoth trucks and SUV's piloted by the high writing new. Lords. Of Travel I did some research and sure enough the car is dying in America as Hank Ford spins in his grave and the. And Norman Rockwell's agape jaw the car once a symbol of Americana a celebration of top down freedom is vanishing. The top three selling vehicles in the US in two thousand and nineteen pickup trucks and the SUV market share more than doubled that a passenger cars by forty seven point four percent to twenty two point one, a Toyota Camry snuck into eighth place when nobody was looking and that was about it for a car in the top ten. The Automotive Market Analysis Company estimates that by twenty, twenty, eighty, four percent of all General Motors sales will be trucks issue for crossovers for Ford it'll be ninety percent by then soon, you'll step into a new car showroom and asked to see a sedan in it'll be like walking into a best buy s and where the royal manual typewriters are. Maybe. It was an omen that almost exactly one year ago rick. Because in the past year cars idling sadly. Graveyard included the Ford Fiesta fusion and tourists. The Buick Lacrosse Chevy Bolton crews had lacks. Next Jaguar xe J. Lexus gs three hundred and yes the Toyota Prius sadder still now lapsed history to icons of the American road, the Volkswagen Beetle and Impala. Paulo I recall. I ever said in was my dad delapidated old one thousand nine, hundred eighty four Chevy. Bel Air that he called old betsy. And when years later, my family could afford a used one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, CHEVY IMPALA TWO-DOOR DOT com are up we felt like kings, it was Beau Day she's apple red with Big White sidewalls conic flat thins in the back what a beauty my own first car was a used nineteen, sixty, four butte skylark I was on top of the world. Then the sedan rule, the road back. Then pickup trucks were not status symbols for urban cowboys. They were worked trucks Johnson over dirt roads with a farmer behind the wheel construction worker, you want an extra cargo space back. Then you bought a station wagon SUV's didn't steal into the mainstream until eighty four with the Jeep Cherokee. Oh for another day again, just one day wound sedans where king once more when the sites of my childhood and my imagination where one. Listen. The sedan graveyard is stirring the ghosts, arising engines, decades silent or rumbling through the mist comes. Parade of sedans long and low ghosts driving. Chrysler. New. Yorkers Lincoln continentals. Mercury Monterrey's on Bonnevilles Ford Galaxies Cadillac Deville 's, and they're an apple random palo with big white sidewalls and wide. And Wild Bill Cody waving from one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, five grins behind the wheel. I'm Greg Cody and that's how it was back in my. I don't know. I really don't understand why you snuck death the lead singer of the cars in there I understand. You? Do. Understand That man? He's money. We're going to objectify men. In the next segment. Yes we have all fallen in love with Kyle. Brandt, and we do not mind all these objectifications we are building up toward the best butter. The best gluts in the history of sports we've got highs today up before we get to thighs. I am so very sorry Christine Lisi for interrupting you and finally according to Collider. Sasha Baron Cohen has not only secretly completed production on the sequel to two thousand, six's Borat. He's even begun screening the film for Select Industry Types. have. We increase the degree of difficulty with that. Kazoo. Is it harder to do that Christine than the average update I don't know why I find the Zoos I. Just did yesterday Jake's like they have a new bed for you and I said Okay and he goes just go after the tenant dinette so. Can. I wasn't sure what was going on I still find it. Funny. Okay. Very good. We will unfortunately play it long past you or anyone else finding it. Funny. That's how we do it around here. Thank you. Christine. We appreciate the time again com you could check them out host of NFL networks good morning football they do it right over there airs daily seven. AM THEY Have some fun our audiences swooning over Kyle brand. Love Him. He's got our sensibilities again. That's a good show. You should watch it. NFL Network does a good job of combining the entertainment with the information also ten questions with Kyle, Brandt podcasts, available spotify, and Youtube. Thank you. Kyle for making the time for us. Again go ahead and set the table for what we're doing today. Okay well, today's Friday dan it's an important day as the t shirt might say skies out size out. This is this is a very kind of like your best supporting actor Oscar. It's one of the big ones and I just want to break the Ice Dandy used to God's anybody on the crew did any of you ever own a Suzanne somers Thymus I did actually A sucker for all those infomer-? He's. Got Body by Jake in? His. Garage. Store. Tony Little Love. But master is one one of the the goat fitness in inventions. But typically, I've seen when we do these guys, the retro entries seem to hit bigger. So I'm just going to bypass the low hanging fruit like saquon there's a lot of rugby and soccer players I don't know well with bulging eyes I'm going to go right to a hall of Famer. I loved this man's thighs as a young boy Vinnie Microwave Johnson, Detroit Pistons Right Six man off the bench played in an era where the shorts were. So laughably high they were really legitimately briefs and John Lewis Shorts. Stockton's looked like Chris. Weber's and had size. Ford. This is a first ballot guy in my opinion. I like it often gets the let me ask the question of the audience here at Lebatardshow did Vinnie Johnson's shorts no yes. Vinnie Johnson shorts make John Stockton shorts looked like Chris Weber's shorts lebatardshow and also is the thigh master. What did you call it the height of the fitness industry and the? Fitness Gimmick invention I put that on the poll as well. Please Guillermo Bob Rae if you is like that, you would show him off to if you were vide- Johnson, right I mean. Of course. Go all the time and briefs just like looking this conversation. These strange places. Yesterday, we were talking cavs, and we went to Teddy Roosevelt who had unbelievable cavs I'm GonNa take you some places now I, Dunno ability there guys you have for pro wrestling but in the ninety s when he was still wwf, there was a wrestler called the warlord and his thighs even in that realm even that when guys were doing all kinds of things go to google images for the warlord he ha- he his the Hulk Hogan of thighs tokes there's always bragging about his biceps, the warlords ties. First ballot again, I'm putting them in with Vinnie Johnson. Substantive do we have any other nominees or is that going to close the category I got two more and while you're in the Google stay here about ten years ago, speaking a whole Cogan, they rebooted American gladiators and the hulk stir was the host. I want you to look up. American. gladiators Titan. Titan was the name of one of the gladiators I don't know if he got. injections or implants or if it's just all the hard work, these things are. They're not of this earth American gladiators Titan I know the listeners aren't going to be into can you pull it up for danced phone? Yeah, object that's not hard work God and he wore the short short toy. Here's wearing a piece of spandex there. That is a looks like a it looks like a very small wash cloth. Very. It's. It's. It's. It's just much like many Johnson's and the last one I have I'm not including Dan I'm not including women in the category. So it's a little creepy however, I will include a fictitious woman if you guys are into the Pixar films, there's a movie called the incredible in which Alaska girl has size that are unparalleled it man women any pull up last girl and it really. Spelling, Alaska, just a great list really great list. I am very pleased with the amount of thought you're putting into these a now help me with something we did. We did calves, thighs can we do then legs? Is there going to be too much overlap just total legs. I think there's such greener pastures than than doubling down on total legs. It's kind of like when we attempted to do both jaw and Chin and we got caught in that how long purgatory about? Where does he go I? Think we've covered the lower body unless you WanNa get into feet we did do hands and fingers recovered Antonio Fonseca we can get. into feet but I still think what you t is coming in. We're still trying to get up to the top of the Mount Everest of this, which is the gluteus Maximus and I'm ready for that one right as a solid answer and a great breakdown by you may offer up someone on the Thigh Front for you to take a look at. Listen you the master I get it Robert newhouse cowboys fullback back in the seventies and eighties. It is unbelievable. Good. It's a really good one. This is Tom Landry Staubach era faster. Educate myself on. Robert New late seventies early eighties and it's worth looking up there. What do you WanNa? Do Do you WanNa do feet tomorrow? Would you like to do apps? What do you want to do tomorrow? I like a challenge absence. Easy Dan. That's simple. Let's do feet work at that. Possibly go I'll go for it. All right let's. Get, weird very good talking to you. Thank you for making the time for is again, check out his work because I'm telling you. It does have our sensibilities all over at NFL. Network, Good Morning Football seven am every day eastern also ten questions with Kyle Brandt podcast available on spotify and Youtube. Thank you. Sir, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Can't. Wait. Thanks Put It on the poll. Please Guillermo. At lebatardshow did you like stugatz audibly wow when the contract details on Jalen Ramsey came in I did not I'm not real sure why Stugatz did your surprise that maybe the best corner in the League would be getting a hundred million dollar deal I get I mean just you know one hundred and five million dollars for cornerback. I don't know why it surprised me so much I shouldn't be surprised it's a value position a valuable position in the NFL I just been a while since I've seen. Contracts and contract extensions at one, hundred, five, million dollars for a quarterback that the Jaguars didn't want is crazy Well, they wanted him I don't think anybody would want Jalen Ramsey but enough about the sports we have a Sui category for you. One of two that we're giving you today will be giving you a couple every day this week, the Sui ease our our Oscars, and it's basically as random as can be with this particular category we got to singing Michael Dolan songs around here it was weird and it sounded like this. And now the Sui nominees for Best Mikel. Dole. EAC Song Listener Ban Return of the mack brick adult Leah you know that he's not wack and Michael Bell and. And if they can do Iraq. At town adultery. Yeah I think he played, which acts that Michael Boley. And in avid smoke supper. Listener Chandelier one, two, three, one, two, three. One, two, three, one, two, three, Swish, one, two, three, one, two, three, Swish. Throw up till earliest cal. I'm done it. To Dole. Michael Dolan. He's GonNa Shoot Well, defense doesn't exist. Like it's US connect. Just. Leave me alone. Listener Brendan Ice ice baby step back shoot the J., and listen Dole EAC back with the brand new invention. Something got the hold of him. Every fifteen minutes a game. Thank. You I don't know. He had a cup of coffee with the nuts so. Listener, fill my neck, my back, my neck, my back, my Michael Dolan. TV producer Lorenzo. Rodriguez Yakutia Yak he. Leitner and by the Rebound rebounded good backs. To What Your. Your. Old Dog back. House, good listener Joe, staying alive Joe. You're on ESPN radio go ahead. All right. Thanks a lot. I didn't know I'll give you the Burston I didn't know. Let's bell. Can Count up by the name my earthy Michael told. Mike. Only yet. Cool. As that guy's voice when he was speaking I did not expect that singing. Singing voice. Listener Matt get by with a little help from my friends. Why would you do? We head up and try to block. Be Put. Out. Back it out. I will try to hit it from the top but this. Five little. Footprint. Weird show excellent except for one of them, which was I have no idea why one of them was in there except for you know maybe just to hear us be disgusted by it, we will get to the singing sportswriters analysis of the Dole. EAC songs in a second because Greg Cody is the inventor of the parody song around here he is and that is a surprisingly loaded karg oriented it remember going that s I don't well because there were so many other bad ones that we had to we through. Like a machete using a machete in the jungle trying to get through billy seems exhausted and I think it's the marlins playoff chase billy. Why do you look so tired too much Dan like honestly I thought I wanted the Marlins to be good but I never realized how much work it was to be for me to follow the Marlins when they were somewhat good and the suspended play offs seem like a good idea. Until I realized, I need to be watching like eight extra teams now just got Zamel. Whatever it's called the extra innings are pass or whatever it's called refund. Watch all the games with a t mobile Tuesday and. I'm watching these random like red sox versus phillies games like I need to be watching to see what's going on and I'm not just scoreboard watching because I cannot watch every single game and I can choose the home broadcast or the road broadcasts of every single game and I'm going back and forth and I'm watching all these like, what am I doing to myself? Throwing their the NBA playoffs are still going on with should have been done. In football football starts. Tamar. Too Much it's too much at this point and I'm sorry either made the blast or don't make the blast, but I shouldn't be watching. Tuesday, games between the RED SOX PHILLIES and by the way Red Sox. If you blow another one of these games because you had the phillies yesterday in the bottom of the ninth inning bottom of the seven sorry doubleheaders. Now we have to exist there's just too much going on with sports I can't keep up I. Don't know what's going on I want sports the way sports were intended to be the way greg cody grew up watching sports nine innings for my base owed thumbs up making the play now vigorous lease tell them. A vigorous thumbs up from Greg Cody. You agree with Philly yeah there's too much going on right now we're juggling six or seven sports at a time at least. CODY ON ESPN radio.

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Theres Something Wrong with my Fianc

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Theres Something Wrong with my Fianc

"Raised ten Friday march sixteenth. Two thousand eighteen. Something really weird is going. And i don't know what to do. I've created this ready account to document my story. I doubt anyone can really. How but god forbid something happens to me. I at least want to record of what went down. There's no gentle way to open this up. So let's just dive on in. My name is nikki. I'm twenty three and engaged to a wonderful man. a ma. We live together in a small apartment on the top floor out house in a small town in mid illinois overall. We have a happy relationship however lately stress of work and wedding. Planning if begun to get the veterans and we've been bickering nothing relationship ending but bickering on the list. Last friday night we go into a pretty heated argument regarding the budget for the wedding and money in general. Still a little heated. He had to leave for his overnight. Security shift the hospital. Me a case and suggested i take a bath before bed and told me we would look at the budget together tomorrow night. As he was off of work for weekend saturday. I had to work a double shift at a local bar. Picked up this job to help pay for the wedding. It's just a few nights a week but every penny house mark hadn't yet returned home when i left for work at eleven. Am which was unlike him. But i figured he was just taking some time to cool down and we'll be back shortly. I left him a note on the county. Saying that i loved him and that i would be back later tonight. Work was fairly uneventful. Until i went out for a smoke break around five pm at several. Miscall from mark one voicemail. That was just a bunch of gobbled. Noises tried calling him back. But it went straight to voicemail a moment later i received a text from him it read. Something has come up. I'll explain later. I love you. Returned home at around. Ten pm. marks wasn't that inside. The house was slightly. torn up it was apparent that someone had been there and have been looking for something but it didn't look like we'd been robbed in the kitchen. I love you too. Scribbled on the bottom of my note in mark's handwriting in the bedroom gym bags and clothes were gone obviously had gone some after the night. Try not to be too upset. So i just had a glass of wine picked messy left and went to bed. Mark didn't return all day sunday. Every time i tried to call. It went straight to voicemail. I received a text finally around nine pm saying that a shift to become available at the hospital and that he was taking it sunday shifts. Come with a nice paper and he knew we needed the money again. He told me he loved me then he would see me tomorrow monday. I take day off from my regular job dog boarding facility in town. Malkani was supposed to go for cake tasting in the afternoon. Before i had to bartend at night so i took the morning to sleep in around nine thirty. Am jolted awake with the bed shifted under the weight of a human body. Mark was quietly climbing into bed next to me. My croat groggily wherever you being. He skipped an arm around me and kiss me on the forehead bring home. The bacon was on response. Started the coffee brewing more. Would you like for breakfast after he left the room. It's not cooking. I woke up enough to process the situation. Mark doesn't cook i ever. It's not that he can't cook. It just tends to burn everything. He doesn't oversell. he must feel really bad about being gone on weekends. Or he fucked up bad. I wasn't sure. I wanted to know which hit walks. The rest of the day went smoothly. The rest of the week catchily went smoothly on eventually. We went cake tasting. We met with the florist mark painted the bathroom. Everything was pleasant. Nice really nice. Actually until yesterday thursday afternoon. I was at the boarding facility filling water boss. The docs getting ready to start wrapping up my shit. I had to go straight to the bar. After i was done here wasn't going have time to stop home. There's a knock on the door and in walk mark immediately. The dogs all went crazy knocking. How growling horn cages. All of them strange mark is great with dogs. Dogs usually love him. We retreated to the lobby to talking. Quiet i just wanted to bring you a snack since you are going to get home for dinner tonight. He said with a grin his sleeve wrote up as he handed me the bag. He'd brought an anarchist pretty nasty spot on his like a burner scapula. Something hey what did you do to your arm. I asked concern. He jumped his arm back in quickly pulled down his sleeve muttering some half ass. Excuse about burning it on the stove before excusing himself and heading back out the front door. He didn't kiss me goodbye. Lights that night. I went out for smoke break at the ball. I tried calling mark. But he went straight to voicemail. Takes me saying that. He was on the phone with his mother and couldn't talk now and then my phone rang an unknown. Here's the conversation that follow. Hello can i speak with nikki. This is she ma'am. My name is detective smith. I'm calling in regards to fiance mark. Is there with you now know. He's not why what's ma'am. When was the last time you saw earlier today. He brought me food at what. Why are you sure. of course i'm sure. What is this about all right. Ma'am thank you. We'll be in touch if we need anything further. And then he hung up. The call bothered me through the rest of my shift. Something just didn't seem right. I mean another police have to be careful what they say in regards to open investigations one investigation could be doing involving my voucher. Call detective back and get some answers. But by the time. I got out of work nearly two. Am and i was tired. Just went home and crawled in bed next to mock deciding it would be easier to deal with in the morning with a clear head the owner of the kennel given me the day off work anyway and that brings me to today. When i finally realized that something isn't right. I woke up this morning around ten. Am mock was. He left a note from me saying he was going to the gym. We'll be back later to that man ever sleep. I took the opportunity to call. Detective smith mac. The phone just rang and rang. I gave up and called the local police department directly. Inform me quite confused. They didn't have a detective smith on the phone. Then mocks mom called me. She asked me how i was. How work was how the wedding planning was and how she she hadn't had from all week and that she was getting rights market told me he was on the phone with his mom. When i called last night. I told her i'd tell him to call and then retreated to my battery. I packed a small overnight. Bag with jesse. Essential changes of clothes laptop charges toiletries and so on and deposited in the kitchen. Then in a moment of what. I can only describe as blind action. I returned to my bedroom impact his second suitcase with some extra clothes. My important documents anything. I thought might be important. I stashed that bag in the trunk of my car out of sight. Then i sat in the kitchen and waited mark. Pretend around noon with a smile. He asked if i had any plans today. This was the moment of truth. Remember babe i'm gone with kenny. This weekend check out the resort my bachelorette party Of course mark replied. How could i forget. He'll be back sunday. Yeah probably lights. I replied with a smile gave him a kiss and headed out the door. I'd lied and it adjusts proven my fears. Something's wrong with my fiance. I have no plans with my sister. My bachelorette party has been planned for months. My mark knows that caught my sister kelly in the car and told his a meet me at the hotel a few towns over. I told her that something was wrong. That i would explain everything impasse. She booked the room using husbands cod. So that no one could find us. We've gone over the whole story of the last week inside. She agrees something doesn't sound right. This doesn't sound light mom well. I'm sitting here typing this out to you kind folks while she runs to pick up some food and supplies tamara. We're gonna call the police station to follow up on this. Detective smith call. I received and see if they can help me at all from there. Well i guess we'll see wish me. Saturday march seventeenth two thousand eighteen. Well i'm still alive kelly. I no longer the hotel. We decided moving. Locations might be best just in case especially after the events of today. We're staying at a cabin in another nearby town for tonight. I left my car at her house again. Just in case mark doesn't know what kind of coffee drives seeing as she's just bought a new. This morning called me to see how things were going. He said he was going in from meeting with his boston a few hours and then he might be going off to chicago for training next week if he gets the promotion. He's being considered for. I wished him and told him that. I loved him then. We took off for the police station. The time we got into town mark would've been in is meeting the station. Things gots at first gave me the same runaround cold yesterday. They told me again. They had no detective smith on the phone. They told me they couldn't release any information. About open investigations. Even if they were investigating told me that they could however assure me that mark was not under any investigation of this time. When i showed them the phone number that had called me things took a time. They started taking me a little more seriously. They did a system them. Search on the number to ease my mind and then kellyanne. I were quickly Into an office where. We were introduced to detective joe. Detective jones informed us that the number at called me belong to a detective. Ian smith from a county about two hours north of he'd been passing through town his way to visit family in kentucky lasting and that while he had never arrived at his destination contact with his wife had been that he was stopping here for the night that he would call her in the morning hotel staff reports seeing him leaving his hotel early friday morning. Apparently for joan never returned. Detective jones is investigating the disappearance. He asked me a lot of questions about the conversation. I had detect expanded. Whoever caught me off of his phone. He also knew ian smith or if i'd ever been to his hometown he asked me if martin or anyone by that name where mock was originally from well things of that sort. Of course i told him no. I have no idea who this man is. All how we got my phone number for that matter. He gave me his card and told me to call him. If anything else happened. Mock call me to say that he got the promotion and that he would be leaving monday morning for a week of training chicago. I congratulated him and told him. I tried to come back earlier. So i could see him before he left. He said to enjoy my time with my sister and then hung up to begin packing prepping for his trip kellyanne and settled in with a large glass of wine to try and process through what was happening and decide what to do next and then the phone rang. It was detective smith. The conversation went like this. Hello can i speak with nikki. We did you get this number lamb. My name is detectives. man. I'm calling in regards to your fiance. Mom is he there with you now. What is this costume ma'am. When was the last time you saw. I would like to know what this is in regards do. So i can contact a lawyer before i speak with the police. Shaw if this is a prank really isn't funny tell mock chicago is a beautiful city that night man and then he hung up his not lost tomato. This was almost the exact conversation the him as the other night. So same questions in the same order no matter what response again the last thing he said lo chill me to the call. A new about marks trip to chicago does that mean. He's watching him watching me stalking. Does he have our phones. And how the hell e using detective. Smith's phone my family had been written all over my face because kelly was already dialing detective jones by the time smith hung up on me. He said that he would be here soon. To discuss the situation in detail with i voice my favorite phone tapping and they said just times that he would call a body over the department in this town to send off rover in the meantime. It was a small confident. But norma detective jones left shortly before i sat down tight this. We'll have an undercover officer station nearby all night just in case this asshole really detective jones set to keep in contact with him no details too small. We'll get to the bottom of this together. The usual cop speech. You always see movies on the tv. Apparently i am now involved in a missing person's case and i dragged my sister into it as well as afraid as i am right now. I know that there's probably means i'm assessment. I have no idea where to go from here. Why investigation options running out provided nothing else happens tonight. I'll be going home tomorrow afternoon. I hope detective jones gets to the bottom of this soon. At least not. We'll be out of town for week. love my fiance. But i don't trust him right now. Something just isn't right now. I've wasted two days chasing down the phone number of a missing man who don know calling me about my fiance. What is mark have to do with any of this. What do i have to do with any of this. Nothing makes sense. I just want my life also wants to apologize for the lack of detail regarding town. Names and exact locations. While i'm posting to make sure everything is documented. I don't want anyone being able to track. Marco me after everything. That's come to light so far. I feel it's best to keep it that way. I don't want to interfere with detective jones investigation. Either please just bear with me here. My life is very quickly. Become far more complicated frightening than i ever dreamed it could be. I just hope tomorrow brings better sunday. March eighteenth two thousand eighteen. Well read it today. Did not in fact bring answer. It brought the exact opposite a whole lot. More questions kellyanne. I had a fairly restless night last night. We were informed. That would be office a station nearby to watch but we never actually met him. We never actually saw him. I want to trust that. He was there that he would keep a safe. He's very difficult to epa. Feel safe when you know someone who's out there keeping tabs on you and your loved ones this morning reverted back to base level girl sleuthing. The intimate we did a search for detective. Ian smith he and smith disappearance detective ian smith missing illinois came up with a big fats. Nothing there was one article from his hometown. Proclaiming him missing praising his police work and asking anyone with information to come forward and contact the please. That wasn't even a photograph. No social media accounts that we could find like this man. He's a ghost. Got home at five o'clock this afternoon. Mark was very happy both to see me before he left and for the opportunity is pursuing a prominent being cleaned grocery shopping for the week of being done carry out was on the way it was nice took a quick shower before the food when i got out. Markets set the living room coffee table with candles and wine had my favorite show queued up to watch. It was like he was himself again. Myemma by the end of the male. I started to think. Maybe i was overreacting to this. Whole situation might be mark. Wasn't being that weird after all. We're both really stress right now. Stress can do with things to person. I began thinking that maybe it was time. I filled him in on what had been happening about the phone calls and the missing man who owns the phone number. I decided i would tell him as soon as he got out of the bathroom as he'd gone to shower himself went into the bedroom to get ready for bed. Got the bright idea to sneak a pair of my panties into marks luggage as a little surprise and make him smile when he got to the hotel. I know who does that. Well hi folks. i'm that weird girlfriend. But regardless i wound up not doing it after because when i opened the little inside pouch and his suitcase to hide them i found something a dagger it was about as long as my fora then shop with a rainy on eight handle. Never seen anything like it before in my life. That was something engraved on the blade but it was in another language. I didn't recognize it was beautiful but terrifying for one. That's the fact that i've been with this man for five years. I've never seen anything like this in his possession before it looked like something out of a movie and i wanted briefly if it was in fact a movie prop but why would he be taking it with him to chicago. More to the point the second thing the thing that really terrified me was the feeling gave me a soon as i touched it felt this horrible sense of foreboding. It was like this darkness. Like something watching me right of my shoulder. I quickly put it back. Where i found it and went back out to the living room to wait. I decided not to fill market after a little while later while we were back to watching tv. I missed a call from detective jones. I excuse myself to go outside and smoke. While i was outside i called him. He told me that. Detective smith cell phone wallet and cookies have been recovered earlier this morning along the riverbank running through town. He said the cell phone was so water-damaged. There wasn't a prayer of getting that bad boy to tom back on anytime soon. I thanked him for the update and headed back inside at least tonight like can sleep knowing. I won't be getting anymore. Stalker course from the mysterious detective smith all whoever had his phone. So why am i not sleeping. You ask is sound asleep fully packed and ready to drive north in the morning. I tried to go to bed with him. But i just couldn't can't seem to shake this feeling. The feeling of being watched like someone is right over my shoulder and that dagga. What could he possibly need with something like that now. Something weird is definitely going on. And now i'll have the whole week alone to try and figure it out. I just wish. I knew where to go from him. Good night read it. Sweet dreams choose day march twentieth. Two thousand eighteen. I apologize for the delay. And i'm dating but i assure you i'm not dead. Not yet at least a lot has happened in the past few days. I can't tell if we're getting to answers father away but i know we are heading somewhere. Mock left brighton. Early yesterday morning. The promise of calling me as soon as he got to my all accounts. I had a pretty uneventful day for the most part i went to work at the kennel went home for a shower. I went to the bath my night shift and then things got a little. We had the only in my shift. Creepy looking men strolled into the ball. I'm always on high alert with customers. Especially after some of the horror stories. I've read about crazy customers. Attacking said is in a fit of rage. We were pretty busy with dinner. Rush though so i lost track of him after. The host asked escorted him into the main dining room. This was probably around five thirty or so around nine. I see the same man. Come back into the bomb. This time sitting up at one of the thai top bar tables way back in the corner all alone at this point again. Lose track of him. As i'm working on liquor restocking which required me to go down to the basement liquor storage multiple times when i'd finally finished with all that glanced back at his table to see that he's gone but an empty glass. Some money sits on the table. So at least i now. I didn't imagine him being there. Finally around eleven. I go outside to smoke. When i wave the managed to be ready to count my drawer and sent me home. I see a lightest walk out of the corner of my and turn to find the same creepy man. He's lighting a cigar leaning against a very nice yet caa part in the part of the lights. Don't like fifty of some sort. I finished my cigarette quickly. Hurried back inside. Made one of the busboys won't me out to my colleague left just to be safe but the minor gone realized when i got home around midnight i still hadn't heard from try calling in. And they went straight to voicemail after making sure the volume was on the way out in casey cold. I went to bed. He was very restless nights. Every time i started to doze off. I will be awoken by strange noises all around the apartment tapping at the windows. Like pebbles being tossed. What like footsteps but above me which would mean someone on the roof in the middle of the night an eerie gentle knocking the frontal of course. No one was that. When i look through the people around the apartments but never in the apartment. Today i was off work in the morning. So i slept in as much as i could when i finally drag myself out of bed around noon still hadn't heard from i tried calling again but again went straight to voice me. I went down to check the mail not the same car from last night. Part little down the ball. I wasn't sure as i walked the mailboxes spots offer. Good long look at the car. The driver's door opened in the man from the bar gracefully. Step down to this creep. Really follow me home last night. Had he been the one making all the noise around my apartment all night. Was this mysterious. detective smith. I rushed back inside and locked the door. I called detective. John's hysterical and choked out the story about this man between shaking songs. He told me he would be over as soon as possible. Lock all the doors and windows. In the meantime stay away from the windows. So i couldn't seen and that he would call me when he arrived so i knew it was safe when he got there. He informed me. There was an officer searching the area for the car i describe. He asked me a lot about the man described him as best. I could but truth be told. I haven't got a good look at him. All i knew was that he was driving black cadillac. Deville coupet harm no car expert markets and. I got a much better. Look the car in the daylights. And that's a classic also one of my favorites. His dream car. The officer returned to report that no such car be found in the immediately surrounding area but they will be keeping an eye out for it jones. Thank the officer. Sent him on his way but jones him sell did not leave. He asked me very sincerely. If we could talk for a few minutes off the police record. I said of course. He told me that beyond the phone one at being found there have been no new leads. Stand up on smith's disappearance. He said that it appears simply being thrown off the side of the road into the water and carried downstream. He's not as optimistic as some about. Finding a body washed up somewhere further downstream. Then he asked me the weirdest question. What do you think is going on nikki. I told him the truth. I had absolutely no idea. I've never heard of an ian smith a week ago. Now suddenly i'm involved in his disappearance or at least i wasn't. His cell. phone was recruitment. I told him that it was all very confusing and overwhelming. Then he asked me and even harder question. What do you think this has to do with. Mark is must be the same. I don't know i've been using for every question. This man asks me. But then i thought a little bit harder. I told him that. If i had to hazard a guess i'd have to say that mark and ian smith probably knew each other or at least had known each other at one point. I told him that if they had known each other market never mentioned it but if market never mentioned him they must not have been friends so at least not close still. Didn't explain why he was calling me. Detective jones filed a strange sad-looking smile and told me to be careful to call him. If anything else happened marks mom called me while i was getting ready for work. Surprisingly she didn't ask about mach which was nice. Because i don't know what. I would have told her. She does. when i'd lost heard from him wouldn't have wanted to tell the truth and why couldn't lie to this woman who was welcomed into family like one of our own children. No she just asked how. I was feeling how work was going. Thanks smalto then right. Before she hung up she said something that threw me off. She said you know it's funny. That mark went to chicago for training. That's where he's originally from a new that market been adopted as a young child. But i'd never pride for still didn't understand why this was funny. A why she sounded kind of sad about it. So i asked really. That's interesting. he never mentioned that. Why is that funny though. She signed and pause for a moment before saying sometimes situations like this leave some lasting memories. He wasn't a baby when we got him. I don't know how much actually remembers but shegog was not good fan. She quickly changed the subject after that we hung up shortly thereafter so straight had more to tell you but i'm running late for work as it is. I'll let you all know if anything else happens. I just want one calm night to try and get my head on straight wednesday march twenty first two thousand eight well so much were come nights. I guess i'll pick up right. Where i left off yesterday was have i've ever worked in a bar or restaurant. You'll know how it is when things go from absolutely dead to swamped in a matter of minutes. Tensions run high. Everyone is sprinting around trying to do ten things at once so when my manager anna strode up to the bar around nine pm neither she nor detective jones has signed will welcome sites on told me that she will be clocking me out manually that she will be finishing up all the tabs. I had open for right now and that she would wrap my tips off of me to pick up tomorrow about the right now. I had to leave. I asked why faring just being it'll was that i was under arrest but detective jones told me he would explain everything in the car. That was something that i needed to see next two hours or a blood to me. Detective jones explained in private. Some teenager been messing around in the woods. Earlier in the evening they had stumbled upon the dead body. The body was burned almost beyond recognition facial features were not discernible by the body was intact. I asked what they sat to do with me and he got really quiet after a moment. He said that upon police investigation bay found several personal items in the pockets of the victim's clothing among them were a credit card in mark's name. Wallet sized copy of our engagement photo detective. John told me they think the body might be altima by made. It started crying. He asked the last time i'd heard from was. I told him the truth. That i hadn't been able to reach him since he'd left for chicago on monday morning as we pulled up to the station. He told me that unfortunately he needed me to attempt to. Id the body. The mall was not nearly as more beta imagined it will be. It felt rather like a doctor's office except for the cool draws lining the wall when they pulled back the sheet. I damn near vomited. The site was horrible. I come back to describe it. All i will say is that i truly hope none of you have to see something like that. Hit will haunt me forever. However detective jones was right. The body was fairly intact. Honestly though were minimal bonds below the chest which is really disturbing to think about but it helps told them with absolute certainty that no this man was not in fact my fiance. They asked me how could show with all the facial damage but matt was easy. I told them that mark had a full sleeve tattoo on his left arm which spread up onto his chest which would have still been visible below the bone forearms what even touched by the bud however they also had no tattoos. This was not mar after that. Detective jones taught me back to his office. Asked me a lot of questions about long. His birth name. His hometown is family life. Any siblings work so on. I gave him as much information as possible when we were done. Detective jones took me back to my car. He told me that he would tell me home. And that he was gonna station an officer outside my apartment to watch for any weird activity. He seemed rather concerned. That this john doe had minor mocks photo win honestly the implications of that photo. The credit card did not really sunk in until that point. No i didn't get much sleep a coat off of work today. I'm just way too overwhelmed to try and be pleasant to strangers right now but of course nothing can be normal. Day can be relaxing. I don't know what to think anymore. I woke up early my boss in the kennel. I explain the situation and she told me. Please just rest as a call tomorrow morning if i needed another day. I texted ana my manager from the ball and told her. I wouldn't be coming to pick my tips i day. Just if everything was okay and i told her that well honestly i didn't know she being a friend of mine since before i started the bar said she would bring my tips on some lunch over for me when i. She finished up with her paperwork in the office. She said we could talk about it if i wanted. My factor went back to bed woke up around noon charlotte and was in the kitchen making some tea. When i heard a knock on the door i assumed it was at but when i answered i found the last person i ever expected to see the creepy man from the by the man who had been outside yesterday morning how he managed to get pasta officer outside is beyond me but he smiled and said it afternoon. I believe we have some things to talk about. May i come in. I immediately said no to which he smiled and replied very well. Smart woman has out here on your patio would be better. That sounded reasonably now. My joined him outside. I don't know why i did it. I know i should have slammed the door in his face and called the cops. But i didn't. We sat at the small table mark. And i have on the patio outside outdoor. He lit a cigar. This man was not nearly as disturbing daylight. He seemed rather normal while not being normal. Place him in his early thirties. Tall reasonably well bill. Well groomed despite slightly. She black hair with the brightest blue eyes i've ever seen. He wore nice suit but looked as comfortable in. Its most men will be in sweatpants. He had an air of confidence and wisdom by all accounts and attractive well mannered well educated man yet. He still made the hair on the back of my neck. Stand up. once. I was seated. He waited for me to say some. When i didn't he dove right in your fiancee. He's not dead nikki. He said i never thought he wants. I responded what an odd thing for him to say what you have to admit. How'd you wanted when detective jones showed you the body. Part of you was afraid you. How did he know that before i could ask. He continued. mark is alive and well and in chicago. Why are in on. I should know. I sent him and myself now. You his boss. I asked confused. The man laughed. No not exactly. Although i have worked with him in the post he see. I met mark a few weeks ago. Friday the ninth. If i remember right you had been fighting. I remember the night motley. Free shift and didn't come back until monday morning. He was worried he says youtube was strapped for cash with a big nop. She'll just around the corner. I offered to him so he was working with you on that weekend. Is that why he didn't come. I simply helped him out a few extra bucks. He did what he had to do. I know nothing else of where he went on what he did. The man replied dropping his slice month for the first time since his arrival. That is none of my consent. I'm simply here to give you a friendly piece of advice. That i asked the grin came back. Decide what you want on. Stop asking questions. Remember what curiosity did to that poor cat after all he said business card on the table and rose. Call me if you need anything. I'm sure we could reach a mutually beneficial agreement. The cod was thick and heavy matt. Black with glossy script delicately placed on his service semi annual soula. Eight six six six three three nine. When i looked back up he was gone. I know i should have just thrown the card away given it to detector jones. But i didn't i slipped it into my wallet. Maybe this mysterious somehow has some answers. After all i started cleaning the apartment after that maybe mark left behind some clue in his haste to pack. Everything up maybe. I can find some record of him knowing. Ian smith anything to stop making things make sense some other whit artifact the dagger i love letter from another woman but i came up empty. I gave up after a while and just took a nap. Laid in bed and watch tv all around just soaked and felt sorry for myself. Anna eventually did come over and wound up staying most of the evening. Kelly joined us for a late lunch. I didn't feel anna in on everything. No need to drag her into this madness. I just told her that. I hadn't heard from since he left on monday and that the police want to talk to me about an ongoing problem. I had some about when she left. I felt my sister on the body. I didn't mention the visit from semi. Eventually kelly also left ni- cook too late dinner then. I returned to setting the appointment for any possible clue as to what the hell was going on. I think it made a big mess than was here this morning. But i don't care anymore i want. I want to know what is going on. And how involves me and mark. I want to know then. The phone rang. My heart nearly stopped. When i still number. Hello can i speak with nikki. This is impossible. Ma'am my name is detective smith. I'm calling in regards to fiance mark. Is he there with you now. Know detective smith phone was found in the river on sunday. Who stays ma'am. When was the last time you saw him on. This isn't real show. By the time. I hung up. I was in tears. Still can't believe this is all happening. As no way in hell. That number should be able to call me has no way detective smith. Whoever is is looking for me that hard and even if he was. There's no way you could call me three separate times and have the exact same response is no matter what i say except this time this time. The you show sounded an awful lot like a challenge. Detective jones is on his way. Not really want to be here. To- right now. But i most definitely don't want to be anywhere alone. I hope he arrived with onces or at least advice on what i should do. But what can i do. I think a hearing in putting up outside now until next time. Oh ps. i still haven't heard from mom. Friday march twenty third two thousand eighteen to everyone who still following my story. Thank you. i don't know where i will be with the support. I've not been replying to most. Come in and i'm sorry about that. But i am reading them all and i'm taking the things you're saying into consideration however i'm not going to light mark on fire. I'm not gonna kill him or anyone else. Thank you for your participation. Also no i do not in fact a death wish nor am i stupid. China live my life as normally as possible so as not to alert mouth or anyone else involved. I feel something else. That being said buckle up the last two days of being a doozy life is never going to be the same of that. I'm sure to pick up where i left off. Wednesday continued fairly uneventfully. Detective jones came over and talked to me about the most recent focal. Like we see from ian smith's phone number. I could tell from the look in his eyes that he's getting sick of this case. Nothing make sense a no one even really knows where to go from him just manage just gone but his phone isn't is found was found destroyed which means someone is using his number from a different phone back to square one when he left. I let him better wake for a long time. I just want my life back. Yesterday i went to work in. The kennel seemed a little surprised to see me. She gave me a pretty light day training new girl that we're hiring to help out of the summer let me tell you. It isn't very hard to show someone how to feel walter bowls and organiz food. When every dog literally comes with their own supplies months. I still appreciate it. Easy day and it will be nice having an extra set of hands around to help closed within the baa. Nowhere phone calls. No creepy customers know detective showing up mid shift with shattering news. It almost felt like a normal day almost except for the cadillac. Deville coupet part in the back of the lot. When we left at the end of the night. I got home around one. Am to find detective jones waiting by my door. He looked incredibly grim and serious. I often if everything was okay. Thank you asked to come inside and speak to me. I jokingly asked if i was under arrest and he said no but there was important things that needed to be discussed inside he proceeded asked me all about my whereabouts and activities between thursday march eighth and sunday march levin. The weekend mock didn't come home. I told him that. I at work my day shift at the kennel followed by a night. Shift the ball friday. I worked amid shift. The bow got off around seven. Came home and wound up fighting with mark until he left for his shift to the hospital. Saturday i want my double came home to find mark gone in the house array sunday. I had the day off right. Went grocery shopping. Let me refer you back to the first episode of this saga. He asked if i had any proof of any of this. So i got out my little accordion organizer from my pass. I keep all my pay stubs punch in and punch outs. that's from. What receipts from stores and gas stations. I'm ready organized with that type of thing. I like to see where my money is going. So i can track. Any unnecessary spending seemed to be good enough for detective jones. But he did ask to take the make a copy just for the investigation recco next. He asked me a harder question where it mark being that weekend. I told him but he'd worked estee friday and sunday not that he had not come home while i'd been that between friday and monday. That never really taught me much about what had been going on. He asked when. I'd lost her mark if i thought he'd be willing to speak with. Police taught him that i'd not heard from him since monday. Morning when he left but if he wanted his cell phone number after little You told me no but to call him. As soon as i heard from and again as soon as he got home he rose to leave before he got to the door. Curiosity got the better of me. I asked him why the sudden change. Why do i suddenly need. An alibi of had a hunch was a suspect. Never really treated me like one until now what the hell is going on inside. Look me in the poll. Never forget the words. He said next off the record. We didn't autopsy on the burn victim found in the woods. He's been identified as detective. Ian smith we are investigating. But between you me be careful. This looks like a very personal crime to me. And he did have your picture his wines. Call me if anything. And i mean anything happened. I didn't sleep much last night despite the undercover off site so apart out front when i out to have a midnight cigarette today today i did the last thing. Any of you probably want me to do today. I pulled out that black business card. My and i called semi you. I'm desperate. i'm lost confused. I'm at smy wit's end if he knows anything about where mark was that weekend. Well it would be a start. At least we met at a coffee shop in the next town over. Just to be safe when i arrived. He looked every bit the calm cool and collected manny was the last time we spoke suit and all. He smile nas what he could do for me today. Out of me wanted to cry. Wanted to have a meltdown in south out. Every last detail of the nightmare. I've been living the past two weeks. But i didn't instead. I looked at him. And very calmly stated that i needed to know everything he knew about web market. Being the weekend of the ninth he loved. I'm sorry mighty. I'm afraid i can't tell you. You see my associates and those we work with such monk tend to prefer a certain level of previously. If i could tell you i would but you see. I'm on the contract. What can you tell me then. I asked trying to keep the tremble out of my voice. Some l. thought for a second before responding non protest say nece- notice he answered with a grin. Least i think that's what he said. I have no idea what language it is or what it means. But i'll be damned if his voice didn't cut directly to my and chill meet. The bone was like his words. Were engraved in my mind. I can still hear. The way spoke them as i sit here and type this. I asked him what it meant the universe. Dan lighted shani. Sometimes you have to make your own. Nothing is coincidental not in this. I don't understand leaned forward and spoke in a hush turn with a gleam in his eye remote. I told you last time we spoke. Decide what you want and stop asking questions. So what do you want. i want my life back. I ansett confused. I want to marry the man that loves me and cast from me and doesn't vanish without a trace. I want this all to stop is that he asked still grinning. I nodded tearing up for the first time unable to stay strong any longer. He rose and stretched a hand. Help me stand to very well as always it is being pledge he kissed my hand before releasing it. You know how to reach me if you need anything and with that. He left the shop leaving me. Standing there confused regardless i returned home and got ready for work drag myself to the bar around four pm and pour drinks like nothing was going on truthfully. I began to relax a little bit. The repetition that comes with my job and constant customer interaction helped me to loosen up a bit even so the feeling of unease that has been following me around for two weeks now. Still not the back of my mind. I finally got a smoke break around eight thirty pm and soon as i stepped outside my phone it was smith i thought about not answering but then i got an idea. This man has been dead since before. I started getting these calls. So let's see what this person has to say. Hello can i. Please speak with nikki. This is she ma'am. My name is detective smith. I'm calling in regards your fiance mark. Is he there with you now. Know he's in chicago for work. I've also not seen or heard from him since he left. I do however know that. Detective smith is dead. Ma'am you are not wrong. So i mean ask you a question all right go ahead what do you want you keep calling me. What do you want if you had one statement to make to convey whatever it is you want me to know. What would it be. Mark isn't himself. He is a very dangerous man. I would recommend you be very careful now. I wouldn't wanna see you end up hurt. Or was i'll keep that in mind. Thank you very much for your call. All right ma'am thank you. We'll be in touch if we need anything further. I finished my shift normally nama funchal. No more surprise appearances. No more anything. I asked anna to cut me entity told. I wasn't feeling well when i got home. My phone pinged with a message from mark. It simpler at be home sunday around new after not hearing from all week. This is only has to say no explanations. Now nothing okay. I didn't reply instead. I called jones. I told him that. I had gotten a text from mark. Told him when he will be home. He told me to make sure it was not in the house and they win mont got home. Oh don't worry. I won't be tomorrow after my shift at the baa. I'm taking i'm running. I won't be here when markets home. And he won't know where. I am at least for now until i figure out how to tell what's real walls not. This is how it has to be as a waste read it. I'll keep you posted if anything happens but right now. I have some maxed pack so until next time whenever that may be wednesday march twenty two thousand eighteen. Wow what hello my. This is a strange turn of events. Expose some introductions on my name. Is mom taking me a long time to get hit but we house a little surprised to find my darling fiancee's little blog but but damn i have enjoyed browsing through it as well as all your comments but that being said i think it's time you will hear the full story from me. It all started. Friday mosh nyse just like nikki told you all. She came home and we started looking at the budget for the wedding. We began arguing about how much we were willing to spend on. Certain things i left work promising. We would talk about it tomorrow. Now that night at work we had a lot of new patients admitted to both the er and the psych ward around three. Am this man. Came strong in asking to release a psych patient into his custody. He said the patient's name was ian smith. I asked him for some identification and he presented me with an id barrington name sam hale soula baid. Proper paperwork was completed. And smith was released into sa- males. I was not the one to send them on their merry way. So i had not yet met ian smith when i got off work around seven. Am some ails. Sullied was waiting in the parking lot for me. He was leaning against his cadillac. Deville coupet my favorite car impressed. I shot the shit with him for a few minutes about the car before he asked. If i wanted a ri- of course. I said yes while we were driving around. He may apply small talk. We got on the topic of nikki in the wedding money and whatnot. I confess that we were a little strapped for cash. And we'd both been working nonstop to try and fund the big day. No one really wants you. How expensive weddings. No one was helping us pay for any of it. Not that we wanted how we would just not prepared for how pricey things like flowers in a bar actually can be regardless he piped up and told me he could help. If i was interested well he had my attention. He explained to me that he and his associates work in a shadow of secrecy but that they would that assist those in need as long as a mutually beneficial agreement could be reached. They accepted no monetary payment for their services but everything has a prize. you see some ale. Soula is one of many human forms that the devil himself takes. I'm self was not a man. Who believes in god all the devil but i gave his proposal a listen. He explained to me that vera ways to increase your luck well anything really but sometimes in some cases luck and wealth with share and if the secondary potty were to be eliminated all the luck all the well would fall to the one remaining. I didn't fully understand. But i must say i was intrigued. Not just for the money for curiosity's sake as well asked him what i had to do. He pulled back into the parking lot right next to. My car gave me an address to meet him at sundown. We shook hands and parted ways when he pulled away. I realized that it was nearly four o'clock. We'd been gone the whole day but it felt like a matter of minutes at home. I quickly packed an overnight bag on show. How long are we going. I must have accidentally pocket down nikki when she to call me back. Well i had no idea what to tell so. I simply texted that. Something had come up. That i would explain later shooting that i will have an actual explanation later on before i left to meet sam. I saw nikki's note on the counter and wrote that. I loved her too when i met with sam. He ushered me into his car once again and began driving in silence against say that i was scared. Law concerned really quite frankly. I didn't much care what we were gonna do. I was committed now. If what he said was true for the first time in my adult independent life. I wouldn't be scraping by pinching pennies worrying about the next paycheck. To be honest. I would have done anything in that moment. He bought the car along the side of the road and told me we would have to walk the rest of the way when we arrived at a small clearing in the woods we met by two other men one dress much like sam in a nice suit with disconcertingly sly ran and one unconscious on the ground. Though a five small fi set up and on the ground connecting the circle in the points was what looked like sand or salt awesome. I realized it was a giant pentagram. For the first time. I started to believe this man may actually be the devil him so he explained to me that the unconscious man held half my luck and half my wealth and that if i wanted it back he would have to be eliminated. I said i understood. And he handed me an ornate dagger with writing the blade puck you score sick nautilus s de him. As soon as i took the dagga washed over me they incredible feeling of strength and power. I walked the men on the ground was taken aback. When i realized he looked almost exactly like me. I looked at some ale for an explanation. He smiled and said non protest s a knee sequels. There can be only one. And i knew he was right. I murdered my d'appel gang in that night. Ian smith the twin. I never knew i had. I murdered him and stole. Every last bit of luck and wealth we'd been sharing all these years when the deed was done. Sommeil handed me a can of gasoline and a book of matches. Told me we raise him. I burned his body. I raised him. We were no longer identical. We no longer have to share non protest s initiate. One was blacked out. When i woke up the next day house in some motel room somewhere at a nasty bone in my arm from where fire snuck up on me the night before. I felt incredible. Better than i've ever felt before i got up and went for a run whenever tan. Some mail was waiting for me. He explained to me that no one was ever to know what happened the woods. I was to forget that man ever exist. I didn't even know his name in that point. Got a call shortly thereafter asking. If i wanted to pick up a shift to the hospital sunday pay plus they offer to throw in a few extra bucks an hour for asking me so last minute. My luck was turning around already now. Has my darling fiance as explained to you kind folks. I returned home every bit. The loving and attentive man. Everything was going. Great truth be told after reading nikki's little diary it all makes sense. I had no idea that she was getting these phone calls. But that definitely explains why it all went to shit one day clarify truthfully was in chicago training for work. Like i said my luck is ten around. The pay increase will be incredible. I was adopted out of chicago as a young child. But i have no memories of my time. As opposed he in smith also would have been adopted average chicago but i don't recall having a twin much. Childhood is still a mystery. I suppose but i've begun to wonder how much of that is repression. And how much of. It is the new and improved ma. I should also explain for any of you out there thinking. This sounds easy enough. Make deal with the devil and get my perfect life. Make no mistake magic even black magic even black magic from the sauce himself. It's like physics. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You can receive without giving something back like some said a mutually beneficial arrangement a deer. A contract has for me. I paid with my soul. I am no longer the say mark. I used to be a much much better. So i suppose at this point. You're all probably wondering. When nicky is why are we not. She's being taken care of our time from chicago to find him missing as well as her suitcases and a lot of her belongings and took a few days. But i tracked down. Bank statements don't lie wasn't hard to figure out where she was staying. She was holed up in a motel halfway from hit indiana. When i arrived at her room she freaked out screaming and throwing things at me backing himself into a corner. She was like a caged animal anew. She knew something was going on someone in the room. Next door called the police when they arrived. I talked them into transporting home for mental evaluation. I told them as the concern husband to be. And i thought the stress just got to that she had a mental breakdown mass where she is now being mentally evaluated to see if she's a danger to herself or others. No one will believe her story even if she tells them anything. She's just hysterical overworked bride to be that needs a break. Well that's what. I'm counting on should at least by me a few days to figure out what to do about. Maybe i should call off the wedding pickup and start over. Maybe i should run with his calm convinced that she really did just have a mental breakdown. Who maybe she needs to be eliminated. Maybe she's already caused enough trouble. Decisions decision now to clarify hack into her account when she was taken for psych evaluation. I brought her tricks and things home. I know my fiance's laptop password. This account was already locked in with. Read it bookmarked as jones. He came by the house. I told him i've been working on. We can with. Smith disappeared and that i had avoided nikki because we'd been finding he can't prove i was anywhere else and until he does. I don't anticipate seeing him again if he wants to do anything. He's gonna need a warrant and he doesn't have enough reason for a judge to approve. This story is most certainly not over. Let you all know what i decided to do. Nicky real soon worrying monday april second two thousand eighteen. Hello read it helps me again. Nikki actually me. Na demon possessed my body nikki not mar pretending to be nikki really. It's me and everything is fine. I think i think it might actually be over. Okay let me explain first of all. I want to apologize for the fact that my post last friday got deleted there was some formatting errors on my part that i didn't realize it may simply been too busy with things that have been going on. I didn't notice it had been removed as simply decided to start ova to explain what happened between marks post in my attempted post and what has happened since then enough has been going on that. I was planning on updating. You will anyway but let's just squeeze it all into one big outfit. I'm sure you're all getting tired of hearing it anyway. Have to work last saturday. Iran just like i said i packed up grabbing everything i cooked. I contacted my bosses and told them there was an emergency. And i would be m i a for a few days. I drove until i found the smallest hole in the wall motel light and have a hud off. I paid cash for the room. I thought he couldn't find me that way. Unfortunately i fucked. I had to pull cash out of a nearby atm. I use my debit card to get gas. I wasn't thinking those of the transactions he saw when he checked my bank statement. He found me on tuesday when he did. I freaked out. He walsum ma not even slightly. He walk difference. He spoke different. It was like a completely different man wearing mock skin. He tried to be gentle and sweet feigning concern to convince me to come home with him. When i didn't go with him quietly. He got twisted. This evil grin and calmly quietly. Told me what he had He told me everything told me that. He murdered ian smith with daga then burned his body. He told me he was a new man. Since the ritual that everything was so much better that he was so much better. He told me not to ruin his new perfect life. He was confessing everything. So i took the opportunity to proudly. I need to know what happened. I asked about the card in the photo. He told me they were link. Between him and smith. The credit card was to transfer the wealth and the photo was to show that they would double. I don't even think he realized left. Smith's pocket when he left he didn't know that he left evidence now but he's read everything. Well yes now. He knows the Taken over it's just too proud to confidence to see the areas that he's made leaving behind evidence and then going and announcing it on my reading. The demon inside is just too cocky. Haas my theory at least that a demon has taken over mark's body the only thing that makes sense is easier to stomach them. the idea. the mark was always inherently evil above oil. He told me that. Even if i told anyone no one would believe me so i should stop being so difficult. I try to keep him away from me. I had no idea what he would do. We think close. I didn't want to find out. Evidently one of the other motel patrons call concerned and called the authorities because the police showed up saying they'd received a report of a domestic disturbance. They spoke to a separately trying to get a grip on what was happening. I told them that he was my fiance. I was afraid he was going to hurt me. I didn't know what to say to them but somehow ended up. Being sent to a mental health facility spent the next two days being evaluated by every professional under the sun and the whole time mocks words rang in my head. I believe you. No one will believe you. No one will believe you so highlight well half light. I told them that we'd been fighting. I told them that his demeanor changed that he become angrier. More hostile dark. I told them that. I'd grown freight for my safety. That's why ran away. I told them only acting out to keep him away from me in the motel room. Because i thought he would hurt me if he got his hands on me. Yes left out the details devil the satanic ritual. Jeez i'm not crazy but the whole truth would have maybe sound like i was eventually thursday evening i was deemed mentally sound enough to return to my life if i chose. I checked myself out and immediately changed my emergency contact from mark to kelly. I didn't need him knowing that i was out. We didn't have a car a phone. Anything so i use the office phone to call i kelly and then the police department offer for joan. I told him where. I was and asked him to come pick me up. I would explain everything in person. Kelly was stuck at work and can get to come get me. Thankfully he obliged we went to. The police dyson settled into his office. I broke down crying and told him that. I think mark killed in smith. I told him that he confessed it to me. But he told me that no one would believe me because it was part of a satanic ritual. That sort of thing just doesn't happen around here. Upon the mentioned a confession jones got serious. He asked me most specific questions about the crime he asked about the murder weapon the dagga with being performed post-mortem when the crime had occurred things like that details that would determine from the autopsy made public knowledge details at owning. The police and the people involved should have known when i answered his questions to recite his faction. He got really quiet. I know that this was a tricky spot. What was he to do in this situation. Biologic i should be arrested on the spot for my intimate knowledge of the crime. That should have made me suspect number one but it already provided proof of my alibi still. Who's to say. I didn't have a hand in the crime and now is trying to pin it all We decided to break step outside for cigarettes while outside. I remember that. I had left his account load in on my computer. My computer which marked now had i was worried what he would do if he found the posts then i wondered if he taken them down alter them somehow to hide. His guilt asked jones. If i could get on the internet somehow to test a hunch. Curiosity had gotten the better of me. Imagine my surprise when i found mocks. Post the time stamp prove that. I was undecided lockdown at the time of posting so. There's no way it could have been me that being said it also didn't prove that it was in fact mom. Once we were show mark would be at work. I asked jones to drive me home once. They're i promptly all the apartments pa in my mind if we could find that dagger he might just be enough. It would be evidence before anyone says anything about the legality of this. No we didn't have a warrant but this is my home. My name is on the lease. I'm allowed to search my own home. Whenever i want and i'm allowed to have whomever i want there while i do so and i'm glad that i did. I found the dagger in mark's jim back along. With a brand new canister of lighter fluid a book of matches duct tape candles and a business card almost identical to some ales but with no contact information printed on it. No name no phone number just a plain matt black business. Copped like name. A number just been raised. I wouldn't even have known what it was if i didn't have an identical in my pass. Evidently mark had made the decision to eliminate me from the looks of it he was trying to turn into another ritual what flow i don't know but there at all was right there on the floor of my bedroom closet. Mock was arrested that night around midnight while he was at work. He's being held awaiting trial for the murder of detective. Ian smith jones told me that he thinks i should pursue charges for attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder or something like that. I don't know it will seems so much right. I feel like. I need to meet with a lawyer in the meantime. No-one has left me alone for even a minute. Which i'm incredibly thankful. I had to go back to the police station to give an official statement about finding the murder gear was horrible. I'm staying at kelly's house until i figure out what to do my bosses at the bar in the kennel of meaning credibly understanding giving me some time. The owner of the kennel even slip in east to bonus to help. Detective jones has been by every day checking in gathering information. Now obviously the wedding is off. I'm planning on officially moving out too soon as possible. Count back to stay in the home. Where i once had such a beautiful life and loving relationship the home where my fiance. The man who i was supposed to spend the rest of my life plotted to mata me. Just do it now. It begins the new information things that have happened since i tried to update. I had to call mocks. Mother on friday and filler in one of the hardest things. I've ever had to do telling mother that. Her son is imprisoned for the murder of his long lost twin that he had apparently been planning murdering me as well. She was work destroyed confused. She said she would call me tomorrow. Once you come down and we told mall saturday evening she did. Call me back. She asked how i was coping then. The shaky breath said that she thought she might be able to fill in a few blanks for me then proceeded to give me the story of his pre adoption childhood. According to his birth mother at least the pieces that she'd been told when they adopted him monks birth mother had been iraq. she'd been pregnant four times before markian using each pregnancy for various reasons malkan the first children she carried to term. She was nineteen years old room. had it she'd been kicked out of a home. Sixteen ju to her first pregnancy father was evidently highly abusive. After a period of living on the street she began living with a new boyfriend. Much older man who prostituted are out for extra money. Because of this it's unclear. Who exactly father the twin. Eventually she turned to drugs somewhere. Around the time mckinney into and one that both mother ran into a dispute with a drug sauce. She tried to get more. She owed him money. He refused to supply her addiction until he was paid the debt. One way or another. She told him that she had the money. It was just at home with a boyfriend. She would go get it and bring it back to him to ensure that she returned. They took one of the babies. She had nothing else value for them to hold onto. Evidently she never retired. The only hard evidence of this the court records show that one euro baby named ian was anonymously left the hospital with a note giving the name and address of his mind when the authorities went to the house. She was gone along with baby mom upon trying to contact any next of kin. I discovered that her mother had passed away and her father was imprisoned. Eventually union was adopted by the smith. Family fast forward about a year and a half. An elderly woman called the police reporting that she'd heard her neighbors fighting the night before. Not an unusual occurrence but that she also heard a baby crying from the apartment all day. She was concerned for the child. The police arrived to find a two and a half year. Old mark crying in his cramp and his mother beaten to death on the floor. Mock was taken into custody of the state that is in short terms. How mark up with his adoptive family unfortunately however there is no proof at least the exact happenings most of what is known came from a diary that his birth mother cap while firsthand accounts are nice she was also a drug addict who had been abused most of her life. There's no telling how much of what she wrote was real versus how much she got twisted and her deteriorating mental state. She told me she never told. Mark any of this last upset. She asked several times if he had any memories of chicago. And it always said no so rather than raise some long repressed memory being triggered. She gave him the best life possible. But i know they still leaves a few unanswered questions. First how did. Ian smith ended up in the mental ward of a hospital in the first place. Well i don't have the full story but from the bits and pieces. I have heard gava that. He was mugged while out for his run. The day disappeared. The megastores phone wallet keys. Everything and ended up throwing the evidence into the river to dispose of it. Ian stumbled his way to the hospital for help injured. I assume from the mugging had no identification and lost consciousness in the he awoke violently swing hospital staff and freaking out that's when he was transferred to psych so make sure he wasn't a danger mass when some mail came to have him released from the hospital. What's like i said. I missing many of the details. This is just the basic gist. I've pieced together from the bits. I have heard here in that second who was calling me claiming to be detective smith. I wish i had an answer for you. But i just don't could it be someone who cloned his phone number. Young could have been some pranking me show but neither of these options explain how they knew to call me how then you mark was involved could have been demon mark just fucking with me. Yeah but why wouldn't he have confess that in these poorly planned telo post. Could it have been somebody else doing i guess. But but she markey's writing some l. is who he says he is. Do you really expect me to believe that. Satan has nothing better to do with his time and remember what he said. He couldn't tell me match. He's on the contract. My best guess is that maybe it really was ian smith like a call beyond the grave. I know that sounds crazy but come on with everything. that's happened. Who am i to draw the reality line and ghosts phone calls. Stead out marks deal for a. He was supposed to have lock and will and he ended up getting arrested. How does that work. I'm no expert on satanic contracts. But the way i see it. There are three possibilities. I mart messed up and cancelled. Audi's deal somehow or did something to reverse it. Second never was a deal. It's all meaningless somehow. Wasn't actually the devil or demon but rather us just a fucking psychopath who convinced an innocent man to murder his twin brother. If you ask me this is the least likely the three some alleys just to erie. He knows too much. He creeps the hell out of me. Something about him is definitely not human goal. Said another deal was made by someone else that trumped mark steel possibility number three scares me when i think back to my meeting with some mail in the coffee shop or i deeply hope that the deal wasn't mine which brings me to the question. What if i did just make a deal with the devil. What now set wanted to marry the man who loved me. I wanted my life back. I wanted all this bullshit to stop. Now i've lost my own lost my fiance. This is not what i wanted. I'm really hoping that means no deal was made. But if i did what do i have to give. What is my payments. What more do. I have to lose. I'd rather not think about that for now. Everything's okay right. I just need to figure out what my new normal without without my old life. I'll be okay. I hope everything is fine. One last thing before i go i want to tell you all that i have in fact been paying attention. I've read the comments. I've gotten your messages have seen the youtube videos. Oh you can believe what you want. But i know the truth. I know the hell. I've been going. I know because i'm living it. If you have any questions on that. Please feel free to contact me. There ain't me. Put yourself in my shoes. The last thing. I need to deal with right. Now is my sister finding a video of some gal reading my story and explain to the world while i'm full of shit. Why she's just saw over it. My fiance murder manning cope my fiance almost murdered me. You think you're over it. I'm over it. I'm done living in this horror movie. But you don't get direct your life for those of you who followed along and supported me through all of this. I'm forever grateful to you. I couldn't have gotten this far without your encouraging words. Thank you for listening. Thank you for believing me as for the rest of you may be. Mark was right. Maybe people will never believe me. But that's okay has always rents i will update you. If anything else happens. But i think i think for now this may be goodbye. We can hope at least monday. April twenty third two thousand eighteen high again. All i'm back. I suppose i should have known. I wouldn't be able to stay away for two. I told you life on. Never be the same. My wish i could say that. This is a good update. I even wish. I could tell you it was going to be just a bad update. I wish i could tell you how. I feel about horns being going on but as it is i nam but more than anything i since. I lost updated. I've returned to work both jobs. Well i'm no longer concerned about the extra money for the wedding. But i have to say. I rather like working at the bar. I love my coworkers. Love my manages regulars obviously had remiss around town and the hoping coming back into check on me. It's a great support system. I'm never alone when i'm here. However it's not enough to live him. So i'm my job at the kennels who i've cut my hours down a bit my own sanity main. I also found a place to move. It's nice on the other side of town just a little apartment. I don't need mushroom meet. It's only me. Kelly and detective jones helped me move in about a week ago. John i become quite close. If i'm being honest. He has been a huge support throughout everything. I'm very thankful for him. He doesn't need to this much. It's above and beyond his job description but it's also very nice well. I decided to get a dog. German shepherd rescue. Needs me as much as i need him. He makes feel safe and my boss at the kennel. Let's bring him to work with me. Things really started to go well. I was coping. I was able to sleep through the night house getting the help i needed mentally and legally but i started getting sick. Typical stress sickness type symptoms annoying adding convenient but nothing to be too concerned about. I wasn't concerned honestly started causing me. Two weeks work con. Exactly be taken care of. People's pats serving food if from throwing up and understanding is my bosses have been they've got to the point of requiring me to have a doctor's note otherwise i would start getting into trouble i went to the doctor was planning on just asking some anti nausea meds. Some sleep aid anxiety medication. Something something just to take the edge off and helped me realize they say they'd be happy to prescribe me. The best thing to help as soon as they did a full once over to make sure we weren't dealing with something more serious. They asked me the typical questions. Doctors any recent trauma any change in diet or medication allergies heights weights. When my last menstrual cycle was answered as you do the doctor but told them. I was on birth control and as a side effect hadn't had a masterful reading over two years. He's pretty common with this birth control. They said as much and they won't concerned about low fat but they needed to run some tests regardless before they prescribe anything to check everything out. Make sure they were giving me the right thing. They simpson's can point is more serious. Health issues. apparently got very long very painful story. Show test results showed. I was in perfect. How i hadn't contacted some crazy virus. And i was fine to continue working however i had elevated levels of certain hormones basically all signs pointed to pregnancy. I recommended. I set up an appointment for an ultrasound. So i did. It was this morning. I've been effectively numb refused to believe this was happening. Every part of me hope that they would tell me. That was some mix up. The doctors have been wrong. I wasn't pregnant that this was all just some sick joke. Couldn't be real. That's not what happened though the ultrasound technician rub that one around my few the sounds on the monitor went silent of my own amd breathing and heartbeat. I waited to tell me there was nothing there men. She spoke up and said congratulations. Mom is this your first pregnancy. And my hots i could have thrown up. No no no robotically. I told you that yes. This was asked if father was in the waiting room. If i wanted to call him the good news that everything. Okay okay. i told. The father was imprisoned on trial for mud. She went pale. High may have been to blunt but a high was numb. Why bother sugar coating the situation. She recovered and continued on normally. He finished the apartment. She gave me information about what sort of time line i have protests in checkups things of that sort but i didn't really process any of it i couldn't i don't want this to be real. That brings me to now now. I'm sitting in the parking lot of the police station. I'm here to talk to john. He's the only one besides kennedy. I can to right now. I've already left her. A voicemail to call me asap. i want. I'm going to say what i'm going to tell him. I just don't know what to do because the tech told me one thing that i did process yes. She said that everything just fine development look normal strong heartbeats to them. Both babies look fine. Thank you so much choosing to spend your time listening to me. If you enjoy the doctor cream experience and come find me on facebook. Come chat with me on twitter. Listen to the background music downloaded. If you like come soundcloud drop by the store teasha importantly if you go to store you'd like me to read sunday talk to creep involves sub reddit. 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The Bill Bert Podcast | Episode 25

The Bill Bert Podcast

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The Bill Bert Podcast | Episode 25

"Thanks so much our sponsor bud light, Seltzer for presenting this podcast. We love these drinks. Personally, I made a huge fan of the Black Cherry, Bites Seltzer. It is so refreshing. It is the best. We'll talk about this. Later, there's more to this. I don't drink anymore. I absolutely love it. So can talk more about them keep listening for more. Thank you. bye-bye. Seltzer. Hey. What's up everybody, and it's time for another Napa Soda of the Bill Bird. Again have. It won't. I WanNa talk to you about I'm firing hot bill I. got into a fight last night at a party I. Yeah. We went to people's a friend's house and we got into a disagreement about. Fuckin- raising children, and so you'd have a bring that out man that's like bringing up politics religion but I was on the you're right? Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. So what what was this person's ideas about raising kids? In essence. They were You give the kid the tools to operate in society, and if the kid in the parenting you do and you can't go beyond that now saying, yeah. But if there are influences outside of those tools meaning say say there's a parent that says, Hey, all the kids can come to my house and drink why go well, that parent is a piece of shit that should not shouldn't be that shouldn't be allowed and then I say we need to. Kick that get that parent. We need to fix that parent because parents lining all these tools. I, taught my kid. And and the argument at hand and and I'm. Sure Gloss over it because I fucking lit. What were they saying about the parent at hypothetical person letting your kids drink. You can't. You can't do it. You can't. There's nothing you can do about that and you got to understand that that is part of when you when you give your kid the tools that is part of the negotiation I have to admit that's exactly what I thought. It's like this parent unfortunately is an obstacle as you've prepared. Your. Kids to deal with other kids. You maybe you need A. Game that they got to. The parent. That's the cool parent is not cool. It's not cool like you know I never I was arguing last night. I never thought it was cool when I was in high school like when, when, when the MOM said, if you guys want to drink it at our house, it wasn't fun they're like. Chicks there. That was like it was just like, Oh, great. We're happy that they said it, but I didn't I. Knew It was wrong and I knew and I would always look at my buddy who's if their parent or friend or whatever, and I would look at how now the pieces are starting to sit. Right. There was something I remember watching this kid. light a cigarette ninth grade in front of his parents. He was like hey. The light was his house thinking. It was a joke, right? Is You some kids were US spoke, right. Like the Quinn family was Irish Catholic family in Tampa like five boys, one girl, and they were hull Larry's like when you walk in and immediately go. Hey, if you want something refrigerator just asked my mom mom birds afraid to ask and you'd like I never said that and they were just Auni fucking family and so And so. I remember those kids that this kid lit a cigarette and I was in ninth grade and I was like argued think was this isn't going to turn out well through. Like Oh. Yeah. Yeah. No. That kids done. The is. Parent. That is doing that. I think it's like a, it's not just a straight up more on. It's a low self esteem thing. It's an insecure thing. Where you can't go to those years. Where when you guess to a certain age and thinks they know everything? Which is around eleven or twelve five. Remember how I went that face. you know you have to. You can't be there buddy during that time you have to be. You have to, you have to plow through that and just understand. It's kid's GonNa. Hate me for the next six to eight years. Seven, eight years or whatever and. Hopefully in their twenty twenties by did my job that will be like, yeah. I was in idiot. Or maybe some they don't learn. So they advocate. Like. Oh Shit. You to kind of have to have that feeling on some level I think maybe have a kid to understand like, oh, my God is off the rails. This is on me. Yeah, it's it's interesting to me because. I just that was, I started to make a point that was like the worst thing I've. started big I. thought it was momentum laid back down the hill on that statement. What find interesting is that, what? What? What upset me last night? was. Was Two things. This is hardcore like. Ver-, probably, more information than I, should share but I woke up this morning thinking my wife finds it easier to silence me. Then to be on my team in the argument like she doesn't want the argument to happen at all, but it's already happened. So she knows she has more control silencing me than she does. On My side when I think I like. And that was the first thing, and that's where I brought the party. You wanted your wife. have. My fucking WANNA tag Tony. Garri at the moment, right? Yeah, and she was like. You're talking really loud and those. That's yeah. That's how you. fucking. Oh. She's probably right but I. I can't stand that. I hate when this the person when you're you're getting into it. With, somebody else and they want to get into with you. Both up here, and then someone comes guys, guys, guys stop. Yeah I think is what Brad Pitt did and that last bucket movie where he's slamming the puck and head off the. Off. The mantle there and I know that obviously. But. And I hate that we live in a world that, I, had to let people know now that I that's wrong. Obviously, that's not something I fucking. Hate. The peacemaker. When I'm getting into an argument because I actually enjoy. A good argument. Yeah. This argument was of full rounded fun argument and by the way I texted the dude this morning and he said, sorry, I texted the group said sorry that I thank you for last night. I'm sorry. My wife got drunken argumentative. It'll never happen again and then he wrote back immediately do it again tonight and See. That's that's Kinda guy like is like is like I'm not done. You're not on liquor business. Yeah. I'm not carrying this into the next day I didn't wake up with negative energy I. Love this tube. So one of my best new what the Beatles did. Where they went home and then they trash their buddy and then eventually go, they got sick of veteran and then they just like well, why don't you just quit the band I think that that's what happened all those years of Yoko and blamed or whatever I just think that. The wives got sick of them complaining about each other, just quit fucking band enough yet if your disc, unhappy. And then one of them probably said I, think you're probably just afraid to quit. And then. They will back into a corner. The only self help book back then was. I'd make friends and influence people or something like that. There was like one or two of them. Finance. Yeah. They didn't have the tools. It's my wife deals with me. The same way she deals with our dog with a strange dog. Aren't you? You can't tell who's dog started, right? Our is sitting there. You can't tell who's dog started it. But my wife discipline's our dog regardless. Hey, no, and the dogs like the dog came up on me and growl like what, what are you doing? I'm protecting myself. I've never been aggressive my entire buck in life, but she. Was Is. There ever a world where my wife gets into an argument and I don't get behind my wife and have her back and I just go eight. Leeann. Raising your voice. Oh, my God. I didn't even think that. All my God. You'd you'd have to be. They'd have to really. Create Alley cat levels. Shit. So you step in. My experience with them at some point. Even. If you a hundred percent in a riot, you're out in front of that house. She's crying and you're saying, I'm sorry. That's Kinda. How? My wife does not have the capability. To in the moment admits US ron like in the moment, it is heels dug in not a bad thing. Nothing wrong with that. Just one of those types of people young guilty of that too. So yeah, I'm actually I'm actually can hear someone's point in an argument and I can actually go. Okay, I'm wrong. You're right I'm wrong. Your right. I for the most part here that voice way in the back of my head. Going fail. Don't do. and. Then be is just I. said back there and I just keep going. You know. I think at this point I'm fifty two. I don't think I'm ever going to conquer that so. I think I'm just GonNa fucking be who I either way, and I'm going to go into this detail, my podcast. Tomorrow. You have to watch. Visit a documentary on Netflix that you just have to watch. What is it I'm dying for. David Foster. Says legendary like writer producer Oh. No. No, no. I'm thinking of is David Foster Wallace, do you know he? He was my teacher when I was in college. You fucking serious. Yeah. And I don't read books. So I know everybody's just like, Oh, my God. And I know I know where he was your teacher, I remember I I, had a taught it like Emerson for like a semester to, and I remember I turned in a paper. Doing A, you know like a book report style thing. And he wrote in the column in the first paragraph, he wrote in Red Ink, he doot. Doing a book report, it's probably a good idea to not spell the lead. Character's name wrong doing. To not fuck in. He's still gave me like a B. though he was cooling shit. So fucking amazing. Bill. LOGIN. Tragic. I haven't read any of his work. Confederacy announces is. A. fucking. legit. I'm red DOT says, he didn't write that. Didn't he now? No. Not Wait. What did he write it? What did he write? Andrew. Dances. That one hundred, fifty years old. You wrote on Yes. That's his prolly. Just wait who confederacy of dunces. Alexandre. Dumas. Now, imminent gestures on I was thinking of competitor incidences. I don't think you know who he is. Cool wrote it in. Yeah. But it. Just I saw the movie where Jason, what's his name played them. Stadium. No Jason. Come on Andrew. Hop on this. Helped me out. There's I needed to last night at the party, a new party. Channels, false Jason Bittner. No. What are you talking about? The one about me just. No one, the guy from how I met your mom, ten things. I met your mom about Oh. Do you? Know, the other the tall do show does Dick. Jason Segel Jason. I was forgetting Sarah Marshall against their okay. anyways, it's not David Foster Wallace. Is Just David Foster Okay audit imaginary to this guy. This guy's ego man. It was like if Ron, burgundy was a real person. And he wasn't joking. David and I don't even know how to describe. It was like one of the greatest accidental comedies like member grizzly man other than the fact he gets killed by the bear was just the guy was a guy who is gay who couldn't deal with? There's actually tragic. He should just been. It'll be who he was, but you know he's sitting out there. You know but I like plus what is walk? In Woods. It's like that dude, and he is surrounded himself with all of these sycophants who just you can just see anybody who doesn't appease. His Ego is just cut out and everybody's just going on I. Mean, thank God, you're writing a show on Broadway. It's time David. What have you been waiting for, and my favorite thing was as drummer goes like he's the greatest. Keyboard player, I have ever heard in my life and I played with Herbie. Herbie Hancock. And, then they cut to the I and takes the balls on Chicago. He removes their horn section and then you got pizza. Tarragon. Man, who will say your honor and I'm thinking? That's better than Babol bound. Day, they get the. Play with Miles Davis. In Cook. You fucking ratings as Phil. Collins. Music over here. And he's fucking going like. And then Barbara Streisand I. Want an album. With. No drums, Bass, Guitar Keyboards just sin and I have to admit. I killed and he's not joking. And then the saddest part is his kids come on. And you can tell the guy, he's a horrible debt. He's even saying I was a horrible den and even they're defending really like he took off for now is six minutes old. But what he did the best he. was. I mean. The guy's obviously super talented all that type of ship, but the game within the game. Is. Just. Watching. This. fucking. I mean the stories he tells it was just fucking amazing. In my mom when I was a little kid was at the piano and she hit accord and I said that's an e and she said. What? He said I said that's an Ez. and. Then she called my dad and my dad said, my God, he has perfect pitch. What was crazy is I was just like fucking like. Four or five sisters, and the MOM would feed them porridge like a fucking like I got the. Nursery. rhymes. And she gives him Bacon Toast every morning. And you go back to the parents that let the kids drink and that type of shit you. That's where it started. I mean, it's fucking. Just the pitcher along the picture to promote. It is sitting there smiling with like fuck and four hundred emmys, grammys next, and he's just sitting there like. AIDS. What I? Do you realize how close like you gave me. Rogin. Money right like Sinus spotify deal. and. An and an I could seclude myself. Do you realize how quickly I could turn into that guy? Like. There's certain people that are prone to being that guy and then guys like you would never be that guy like you could. You would. There's a humility that I. Set me up to. fucking. Don't set me up with that sound bite. Now, that's out there in the ether. big-league move and those. Things get married and it's done I. Don't think you really know what you're capable loans. Until. You're in that situation, which is why all the regular people that do about tiger. where it's just like do when was the last time? You walked off the eighteenth hole and it was a buffalo to fucking hot chicks waiting to bang you and you walked past them to your Chevy Cavalier to go home be a fucking. Wife. You do that after every fucking golf match, then you can judge that gun. I'm only as this has got to be someone's bit, but I'm only as good as my. That's that's Chris. Rock is it is it that works and that's literally word for work real. I, think it's a man as faithful as his options. Yeah. But I think I've proved faithfulness in that I. Have My options have increased since I married my wife and I turned down options. I've turned down hot chicks that have been like I. Check sneak on our bus one time and was in the boss way. How does that happen? Yeah, tell me about it. Someone didn't lock the door she got on the bus issue was hiding under the table and we walked in and we were like what the like. We definitely see you. She was wasted hot. She was like, let's just hang out. Let's just hang out and we ruled. In scared, I would be. I'd be terrified. What if you just starts yelling rake? We. Have this rule? No boss, fuck. OUTTA here. No. Chicks on the bus ever never never. So there's quite a chick who never even went on your bus could just say she went on your bus in something happen and that would be the India. Added Away. It's. It's working out map now is like. I mean. I don't understand I. Don I. Want to get into that because I don't want to have people's Shit. I I. fucking doesn't as me is the people that were not there, which is most people commenting. I think, everybody. And like fellow comics. There, you don't know what happened. Somebody said something happened. The other person said it didn't happen, and when I love is it always starts off with the accusation and then it slowly gets into all. You don't like his act. You'll never a fan of his in the first place. Yeah that was my favorite one. I saw this week were someone you know started off with the accusation and then ended it with the criticism of the persons act in. It's just like, wow, man that has got to be. It's like this. Literally, Somebody's dream is at stake here if you don't have. Pertinent information on this. Your shot the fuck up. Why are you chiming in in gas on a fire that you don't even know it could have happened. It could not have happened. It's just like. This whole, this whole thing done in this guy's of liked that you're making things better. That you know one side can't defend themselves. The other side can now say whatever they want. It's taken his law and your your your dream is over, is I mean. That formula, there is no fucking way. You'RE NOT GONNA start taking out people that didn't that are actually innocent. I mean, you're you're kind of creating I mean, it's basically why there's the judicial system. You're if you don't have that, then just anybody can say anything about anybody. To Destroy Him and the Internet people have to respect the fact that there's no liable, there's no slander. There's nothing. So you have this ridiculous level of power in with power comes responsibility, and you should handle that responsibly I don't think that you should get out your bitterness is a comic towards another comic Eddie ship with them. Added, said that I don't know what's true I don't know. That's why I would never fucking jump in and say anything you. That's my thing is I did a podcast with someone. They asked me about a guy who's been accused of stuff, and I'm only keeping people's names out out of respect for all of it because I don't know anything and I said, yeah, you have to respect everybody involved because everybody everybody comes. On either side that could be a victim here and you don't want to tip it one way or another unless have. This smoking gun kind of thing unless you have some insight that other people don't and I said to the person and I'm going to edit this out of my podcast because because it it then talk about it on this one. Because because I can represent better on this one. Right but I, but what I said was. I actually don't know anything about that, and all I can say is I can't I. Guys Always Been Nice to me. He's always been sweet guy. I don't know him to see that as that. I told my experience and it was a little just because he's only nice to you. Does doesn't mean that something didn't happen, but you don't know how I don't know, and so it would be disingenuous of media just immediately here, any accusation on anyone and just go. That's fucked forever. Fuck him fuck him, and then I don't know, and by the way I don't know I just don't know, and so like I'm sitting here in my house in my glass castle just. Taking an information Leon, had this to me bill. This is what's crazy. Leeann said when everything comes out about all our friends, all the people that we don't need to say any names but everyone knows. said. Hypothetically, speaking. How would you behave? If someone accused you of something? You actually didn't do an my instinct bill was ago. Have you seen fugitive 'cause I would be Harrison Ford I would lose my fucking mind and it'd be jumping off waterfalls also being locked in with your people, and then they would be giving you advice and you would painstakingly have to craft a statement. Sucked into that. So so what I did. So we as a as A. As an exercise. I said what I would do. I went through all the stuff I would do. and I am the number. One thing I would. The first thing I was going to do is I was suing everyone for liable right, and so she goes we'll call you my dad's Lawrence because cardio dot, ask him if that sounded vice. So I said that I tell him scenario I said. If that happened to me, I do a room for liable. He goes first of all, know that trials not gonNA happen for two years and. Just so you know they will dig up everything. You've ever fucking done, and that is all and you will not win, and if you win, you won't get any money and it doesn't do any good, and by the way He's my dad starts spinning out into something happened and I go. No, we're just doing hypothetical. He goes what you do is you remained quiet and hope it goes away I, want. A serious. He's like I know, and that's that's what's giving. That type of of a thing is a tremendous amount of power. When you can. You can just say you can say these things. True or not, and I'm not saying that anybody said anything else. But it's just like that door is wide open to just say like. I mean the ship with like. A certain talk show host. and. Just a wild shit that people say there's no way you didn't know every last can thing that's going on on a show me a fucking break. Zillion people there do show I don't know every last fucking thing that's going on. There are people saying they get condoned it, and then a snowball things starts going I mean. That person I've defended that person maybe wrongfully, but I have only because I know her history and I know what's what she's had to go through and put up with to get to where she is and I don't think she would knowingly condone i. just don't think that person and I. Think it is the people around her and I. Think it's maybe a little bit of like I. Don't know. I think there's a lot to, it's also the perception, the perception whoever brings up the accusation. Their perception is what was going on somebody like every place. I ever worked with there was always like somebody that was being inappropriate jokes being inappropriate whatever. But it was like that's the inappropriate person but. You. Know there's a difference between the person saying wild shit. Back in the day that wasn't taking your Dick out at work. But now those two things have become the same thing and then it's also become like. You know if this person said that happened, then then it happened and your don. Crazy. It's crazy. There's got to be a lot of people. I know I know I know of a talk show where the host was very toxic and everyone hated it, and everyone has since come out and said how much they hated it. And I just. Who wants to like? I don't understand that concept of having a workplace like that at all. If. You're lucky enough of TV show. You should make everyone feel like how great is it that we get to come to work today? Because I, believe I believe that the pressure pressure I haven't this show in whatever your issues are get. The higher up you go in the more. That's at stake. The. crazier. If you're wired a certain way you're going to behave. and. I think it's cartoonish sometimes to just. Turn people into your mean because you like being mean, you're just a mean like to me. It's it's like It's like. When people from this country go and they traveled to a poorer country. And they come back there takeaways, men that places this Shithole. As opposed to like how, why is it that way? How did it end up that way? We're all connected. How does this thing work the world economy where? I just think. The way people go at. One plus one is two one is to just going right down the thing. This happened. This person said that this is this. This is that I mean, I? Don't see how bad. How you. Come out of this thing unless. I don't even know how you come out of it. How you how you ever. You can go back to some sort of rational. Like the best system we could come up with. which you know to argue, the other side was not working for a lot of women or. Yeah. So it wasn't working. So but I don't think the solution is then. To go all the way to the other side and just like anybody says anything and then you act like there's no. That human beings are. Flawed, there's no jealousy. There's no been Dick nece although those ugly ugly sides of people that caused people to say, stop people, Comedians, comedians acts made so much of that. Is What's going on with you and not the other fucking person. You know what I mean. But if you apply that to what this thing is, it's it's it's a really. Yeah, it's. It's a very dangerous thing. Is Very. is very crazy and what's crazy is that is that. Because I have. Two girls and my wife was sexually assaulted in college. She's talked about that I'm not sharing anything, but I. When did you leader? I, think I'm going to cancel you this fucking thing right now. Love when you love when you do those when you I had other. Logging over the net. But? We I tend to I, tend to believe that anyone that speaks up isn't doing it to just get famous because I just go I've been around dudes. I've never known a dude. That's the other part that I said to my wife. Last night, we were talking about the other day and I said. I've never once known Dude is ever want hung around. Bros.. My whole life as even told me a story that sounded like rape like even a story that like once again, you're dealing with their perception of it. People. Are. fucking. Nuts. Okay. We're living in a world right now where they're saying only one side is not. Everybody's fucking nuts, and that's why. That's why you have the judicial system and all of that ship I don't know. But but then again, it doesn't work. For a certain segment of the population. So that's not fair I mean. So what do you do I? Don't know. It's. It's it's fucking nuts. It is. It isn't quite Mar.. P. I say all comics, I. Don't mean all comics but like. Do, you know how many types of Comedians? Bill. Would be so jealous that you had David. Foster, Wallace as a teacher that you in at and that possibly his teaching created the man you are today. Artists you are today was was was nurtured by David Foster Wallace. I. Took a class. We had a I do remember. I don't want to tell that story I can't. It here. Let me let you think about your story. I'll tell a story about a grade English teacher, and then you think about your story. This teacher. He's not around anymore. I'm not telling the store, it's not fair. Because I trust the why? Because the fucking Internet is so fucking toxic Oh. Okay. And they and they do the Fox News CNN thing. They take clips of what you say, and then they'll try and make its act like I was being disrespectful. The guy which I don't WanNa do. We had a teacher with a teacher in I was an English major and creative writing. Teacher. Come in First Class on. Monday. His name was McNamara. Think and He walked in no-shirt on shirt over his shoulder backpack like an army surplus backpack motorcycle helmet walks in ten minutes late and he goes Mondays aren't good for me. So let's just do Thursday Friday? Cool. We're like, yeah. All right, and he starts to walk away and so what are we supposed to do and he goes Oh, live life and write about it and just walks out right. So, this guy was the greatest teacher, his I pulled him aside I. Don't really wait, ass. These fucking adult, and he wanted your approval more than he actually wanted to teach you or he's fucking. So, I said to him. So I remember sitting there, is he any different than the parent down the street that says it's cool to drink this guy. This gets better. This gets better. So. This guy everyone just wrote about their life and the experience they had sitting next to him in class one time shirt unbuttoned motorcycle next to the helmet next to him, and this girl tells fan growing his hair year long haired girl really good looking guy really good looking guy. Mad. At. Him and so a girl, one of the hottest girls in the room. But like like converse sneakers with no socks hot, you know what I mean like just like a good looking girl really attractive. But just not in a sorority system does her own thing paves the way through college like real fucking like Kinda girl that knows how to Pack Bong Bong Bong with her thumb and don't worry about it. You know. So you're you read the story about working. It sounds like a movie. She Works Rights Story. Wait a minute when you took glasses off and she dinner ponytailed in. Seattle beautiful. She was. Talking about this with their hair. So you see she is she She does it store storm sitting next to this dude, and she read the story about her working at this restaurant called the mill. and. One of the one of the guys who worked in a kitchen walking in on her in the freezer, and then fucking in the freezer, and it's all about her getting fucked in the freezer and and it was like the hottest sexiest story and this teacher is by the way I thought he was an adult is probably like twenty five at the time. Twenty seven is just punching me in the leg like Honky, believe this key believe this right so I tell. Tell them that I go I'm not doing this class, right? Like what do I do? How do I and he says to me goes this weekend. I. Want You to get a tape recorder and record everything that you're going through and just record like kind of log it, and then on Sunday night, just write all that down. It doesn't need to be perfect. Just write down everything you said or like some is it and then submit it. So do that. Record all weekend. I, write it all down Sunday night. Monday. Wednesday shows up, we go to class and there's a different teacher in class. And I was like Pat Forget. Her name Pat was her name. She was quoted my rolling stone article about me about what kind of student I was because it was during this time and I said. and. I said where's Mr McNamara and she goes he died this weekend and I was like what she goes. Yeah, he was doing cocaine. On his motorcycle going about one hundred and twenty miles an hour, and he had a heart attack and died. And I was like, she says, you guys. Yeah, an ax to grind with this guy, shoes just had a heart attack on the motorcycle when I do blow on a motorcycle on her and twenty miles away, he must have the windscreen. Doing on the motorcycle like. By the way by the way I'm not really certain. That's how he does picture you painted. I might have I might have painted the picture of my head that he was doing. Cocaine had a heart attack, maybe just got a motorcycle accident, but. Tech. You facts aren't just on the twitter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Whatever and so but I remember that teacher. So what was that PAT? was. that. A re- southwest since all the people in the English department hated my guts because I signed a book deal out of college and she was one of the ones that didn't. She didn't hate me. She didn't you. She was cool. Fuck. She was really a what did you? Think when you submitted your assignment. Sheet we didn't really do anymore learning in that class like. Came in matter of fact, Lake Yeah Yeah, teachers dead. He was still blowing a motorcycle. Twenty miles an hour and had a heart attack. Be Your teacher. Now, there was no. What is wrong with Florida? What's her name PAT? Own. Assay Mac it's not McAfee. McVeigh or something if you type in interview type. Bert. Kreischer Rolling Stone Article Pat Teach English teacher, it'll come up. I want to give her a shot out. She was a really cool person. What does she still alive in the crazy that you think that those teachers you had in high in college like fifty years old and a twenty seven year olds. Yeah. The coolest teacher I had in college, she was a lawyer. and. He drove a Porsche and he's married had like four kids and he one of the stories he told was that he would he drove fast. And he just decided he I'm just GONNA play high insurance because I like driving fast. He was like his own man. This is like early nineties when I was in college in I don't know just something about him that I liked. I, came over the classy taught. You could tell he was good to being Lawrence, just the way he took out, hire this guy. He wasn't a creep. Teachers. That crease. You know what I mean. They don't call on the hot chicks. the jocks and shit like that. I had had a lot of those. This guy was just like. You've really came with people like matter of factly. and. took a vacation went to Cancun. He came back and looked fucking grade is like discuss this living the life? He's taking time out to teach this class. He doesn't need to teach this class. He's a lawyer got a portion. You can go to Cancun taking the time and I got so much out of that guy was like this guy's just kind of doing what the fuck wants to your. Front. Nobody's getting hurt. Nobody's getting hurt. It's not toxic thing. You know. What did you find her name? What is IT MCNULTY? Pat McNulty at McNulty. She was a great I. Bet she's got books, keep pull up one of her books. She's written a book. Let's promote it. Someone happened. Not. She was a fucking awesome teacher man. You get so few great teachers get so many you're right. So many just just regular people. Regular. People. I want to thank our sponsor. Bud. Light, Seltzer I was out in Lake Havasu last week. Was it bill. I think so so. I, go to get the boat my wife into get booze. Right? She comes back with Bud Light Seltzer, and at first I thought I just wanted to beer like a like a beer. All of a sudden. We get out to the Sandbar. She starts driving the boat. I started drinking and these bud light sensors were so frigging enjoyable, and you know what? I loved better bill, none of the guilt of the big belly with the beer. Right? Hundred calories less than a grandma sugar they are. I love once I, quit drinking all of a sudden they come out with all this alcohol that's still gets you know feeling good but you don't put on any weight. Oh. BACK PART IS GONNA. Make me come back. Black. Cherry. So what I would do is we we had it in ice. I had a couple of the can and then I poured. into. A big glass with ice in it bill. It was so refreshing. I can't Black Cherry is so amazing. Lake singing bacteria Bam. Next Taste. Clean. Finish, I mean, amazing if you're looking for a for a drink the. I'm telling you right now the Bud Light Seltzer is undeniable unapproachable brand with a wide hard seltzer category and May. Right now, watching you drink one of those things, it is unquestionably good bill. Bro I actually totally, and I think I prevented day drinking because I would four those and I'd be set for the day. Come home set up the Grill crack. Another one I did I didn't kettle bell squats with them because I felt like I wasn't gaining any weight I felt it was being healthy. I bromide chemical. Most, about have having a beer while grilling. So long was that a phantom limb. Not have that you know I've been having a hard time with beer lately, I think the taste is. Like when we were on tour doing IPA's now that I'm home and I don't have to worry about Corona virus a losing my taste buds I've just been joined. He's Bud light sensors. They're so good. So good. I remember drinking. Nine President, CEO. Feels like. I'm twenty, one months in. 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This thing blew off the fucking hinges and this guy came in like he was working. He did everything but flash. fucking. FBI. Badge. Are I. And then I saw these bears at the zoo. Stand up on the hind legs like people in as little zoo, bus drop by the food. Stand up in wave like frantically like slumber party. Oh, my God waving like that. There was a tri factor of human ability that I have not seen I. Have Not seen any fucking monkeys do that shit? All that it wasn't wasn't a guerrilla connected sign language. I'm telling you. People, are sleeping on fucking bears. I WANNA see planet of the Apes. Bears. I in Russia, we saw bear roller skating. Bikes, they can do everything a fucking monkey can do I said to the my teacher. My teacher when we were watching the barrows. Said I wonder how the a bear to Roller Skate is? She said with a lot electrcity. and was brutal. It's fun. They were getting them bill on a balance beam and almost like it was a slack line and throwing in the air and catching them. Bears WANNA balancing beam. Throwing somebody threw a bear in the air and caught it. Might Mash up a super bowl performance with what I saw back. You'RE GONNA, say I know Russian guys strong. Let's get crazy. So, that's my, that's my prediction. Bears, I'm talking within the end of the century which we're not GONNA be here. I'm talking to bear with whatever Bluetooth looks like. Going down the road and one of year old rights. I. Think that that's where they go shaven off all the hair except here. Right. Here's a look like they fit in. Now, just go all the shame on us. Shame, and now we're in, we're in the winter, there's going to be like. It'll happen that fast. The next five hundred years. Viruses and just wiping out the planet. I, think that they they come. What do you think I was thinking I was talking to Andrew about this and I was saying. Do you remember the stereotypical fat cat during the great? Depression you know like monopoly guy just a monocle cigar and I thought you meant like an alley cat, I was just picturing one in the cartoons where they have the fish skeleton in licking their paws. All. Right. I got your saint. Some rich guy. Yeah. But that that stereotype of the guy who's out of touch with. Like. Hoover Villes and an economic depression I feel like we're coming up on that. Like I feel like. Like how did you how? Are you comfortable spending money? Like right now, you're not the guy that shows up at the comedy store with the flashiest car at all. Like your you have a nice car but. Saying they had no style? No, no, no. But like is there a part of you? I'm looking to buy a car and I thought. I thought with what's going on in the world today. It just doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on car. Tone has a fucking joke about that. I just read it and I was dying laughing. I'm not going to do with justice. It's on my. It's on my instagram stories. I, put it up yesterday. Just read it just like that is. So he so fucking funny and has a new special loads and he pepe tones amazing as far as spending money like I've never. Gotten to. It's weird. I can spend money on other people. I got the KAFFA guilt thing, but like I don't like A. If I do spend money on myself I definitely get. something. Nice. If I'm GONNA do it. You know what? I mean like I'm going to do it. I do it, but I don't do it a lot. I actually am not into, Shit. And especially cleaned up my office. Here is all of the fucking Shit over the years. that. I've gotten in like You know it's just like what What am I doing with all of this stuff now now, just keeping in boxes 'cause I can't throw it out because emotionally it means something to me. That's that's me. T shirts. I've so many t shirts that means something to me. It would you just gotTa get into your Reptilian rang where you don't feel anything, and you just throw that garbage bag tied off. You just leave it there, and after a while you forget what's in there, and then you take that fucking thing in you go by skid row. At the bag down and they're gonNA use it. You know all kinds of t shirts and stuff like that. Yeah I. Did that did that with a bunch of old red SOx jerseys and shit that I had from two, thousand four like no Mar, a Manny Ramirez big PAPI. Shit it's like I'm not wearing this stuff. A plus I. Think it's funny. You. Know homeless guys walking around Boston, sports, gear. You know what? I mean. Ev-. Celtics. Shits then lake? Make me feel more like I'm at home what a I feel like if I, feel like. I was looking at cars yesterday i. feel like if I spent money on a car, that's when the hammer drops. That's when that's when bad shit happens to secondhand. Do Something Nice for myself. That's one bad shit happens. I have a nice car went out and bought a nice car and I got the nice rooms I ordered the fucking thing I got the color. I wanted. I'm GonNa, do what I do it I. also I'm fifty two years old and I think I've owned five cars in my life. I'm GonNa Drive that fucking thing. Until. Right. Out. Right. Yeah. Just bought it Yep. Just buy outright that said Don and then I just drive it. I mean. I've only that's the second new car I've ever bought like the first new cry Prius. I. Drove it for ten years. You still drive that. Prius. I. Do. We went to the football game or the previous. But I've got rid of. But I drove that car forever and I loved that car and I didn't give a shit. All stupid. Gay. Bashing, crap. That would happen with that car is actually a really interesting car own. because. No matter how bad the gas prices got back then and was always under forty bucks and when they would go down there was days. I would feel that car be like twenty three bucks and the way the Shit I would get for driving that car never quite ended. But when gas prices were low. The Homophobia was high on driving the car when gas prices went up the homophobia game down and all of a sudden people becoming now how much. Does it cost to? You like that now, just laugh and it'd be like, Dude, you shit on this car up three months ago. A Prius is literally like that friend you have. That's just therefore you're never wants anything shows up to the party, always bring stuff helps you fucking clean up. Doesn't dump their day on you. It's a fucking great car it. One could find find something like that. For Georgia. We gotta by Georgia car and I'm having issues with. She doesn't want. She doesn't want to car because she doesn't want to look like a rich kid, but I don't want a piece of shit in my driveway. That'll be the last car out and I gotTA drive around in the Make sense like I don't WanNa have to drive some bullshit car. She's not to look like a rich person I mean having a BMW. I mean a sixteen year old can afford a lease on one of those things. I told her bill. That's what is older. We have one Lisa's up, but I wanNA just bite out right and give it to you. Don't WanNA. Look I a rich kid and I go. Maybe this is a used car. This is affordable. This is what you would be able to drive like. No, I don't want that I. don't. WanNa. Look like a rich kid I want to look like a regular kid like I wanna, beat her, and I went what? What. What reason? Just I. Think Self Consciousness I think being a kid in Hollywood earn L. A. is the I bet there's a rat race. I. Don't know about about celebrity parents or or wealth or money, and Georgia's knocked that kid she's very like. She is she is never asked for anything in her life. She's not a kid micron to Georgia's daughter Yeah. I. Thought that was your wife's name. By. Made that joke last week on Oh God Vermont. I never would have said that about your daughter. So sorry. Oh my God, I can't believe you. Let me get away with that I didn't understand what you're saying. That's his wife's name, but I couldn't like Yadi Yada. Go over. Asked. I got to I am so sorry, I didn't even I didn't even. Gift Basket IPA's dude. I'm really sorry about that. I get you kid now I get I, totally get that because. You that Kid Sixteen and your dad was bill. Let me get your BMW. With. Dad, that's not me or you like fucking. Let's do this. I probably would've said I had no confidence. I didn't need that attention than hot chicks would have liked me and I would have imploded. I would've totally imploded interest. If you write a cool car like with no confidence made his fucking hilarious. Rocco so bad. I loved that car was the baddest fucking Carmen. I know there was this just cool. Kid My great hat one up two years after. The CD player, the external CD player. because. They didn't have one was saying that he plugged in and that was a big thing doco over bumps of the CD would skip an never looking at that car being like Oh. My God. Ah thing is amazing Joe. Jetta. A Volkswagen owned cool car like the Jetta was a cool car. The SIROCCO was a cool car like. The and they were affordable. We got a Fox when I was sixteen brand new I, buy one of those like nine thousand dollars. My Dad was like bang like a hundred and fifty bucks a month and I remember I wanted US rockaways buddy that sixteen thousand Nolan's afford in that I get you trust me for half the money. I. Get you a Fox I. You got a new car. So you're that's Senegal. Like well, my dad. So then get her the equivalent of a Fox. Doesn't exist right now like Yet does no no meaning meaning like anything like Honda Accords, fucking like fifty thousand I don't know is their higher model than the civic. You don't met Sally. Go to. Honda. She here. But then I start saying wondering Achy new cars I wanna get her something big so that if she gets in an accident, she's safe. So and takes everybody else out i. like a no witnesses. So I, just a part of me is like I told her I said, let me get you like a like. A an expedition or an or an explorer or something big like so that we have 'cause I also met up going to end up driving that's and I don't want to get in the car where I'm like. It as much as people shed on. SMART cards. You heard about somebody getting killed on one. Really fucking safe. I'm not saying get a smart car although I loved that car. I would love that car is the car when you were a little kid, you wish you had like. A go cart that can go like eighty miles. An hour of those little tiny ones. Yeah. So what it does is is you don't get hit that car that car is the shit. That car is the fucking Shit like I would like to take one of those things and Redo it input like the fastest engine or maybe just make an electric. Then you got this fucking thing that the only been easier find a parking parking with a motorcycle. Worried. If you made that thing electric that it would literally just like tip over when you step on the gas when your head hits the back of the window. A Number of with Andrew All, right. We get the I'm going list them twenty, twenty, chevrolet spark LSS Fifteen, thousand dollars a twenty. Twenty, Mitsubishi Mirage? Yes. Is Sixteen Four, the twenty twenty, Kia, Rio? LX. Is Sixteen Eight. Kia Hang on. Is who makes the Genesis. Been, that is a beautiful fucking car. Have you seen that bill always? The Hyundai Genesis is a gorgeous fucking car. Gorgeous. It is like. I would argue it's nicer than a Mercedes nicer than a BMW and very affordable. I want I almost feel like you cut some back door deal with them on the podcast. We just signed off on that I'll tell you what I really I love. The I saw, this was a Ford F, six, hundred, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy. All right. Let's go there. Do. Wheels. I. Think when I was a little kid, I don't think I ever got over tonker trucks, I. I'm more of A, I'm a truck motorcycle guy. I love motorcycles. I'm too afraid. I just I ride scared. I can't do it. I'm going to wait what truck if you had to buy a new truck. That is new that you see out there that you like she wants a pick up truck, she wants a pickup truck or a mini van to what I would do. I would buy a used. Dodge Hemi, the two door short bed. There's one for sale right now. I just saw it up in fresno a blue one. Detrick is the shit. It's got a Hemi fucking flies. Afford Guy. The Front end on that 'cause dodge fuck up front ends up here. I. Don't know what's happening. Hang on. Hang on something happened. Sorry to hear that. I heard a little bit of something. Dodge Handy. I. Think is a fifteen, hundred Hemi. You want the short bed? No extra cab. No none of that. Shit. It's just a fucking. It's the old school regular. Cab with the short bed. It's one of the best lookin' fucking trucks. In, modern. I got a she wants a pickup truck or a mini van are her two options. Like both, my kids want vans. A white van with no windows and and Georgia wants to. Get, I would get her an old. Ford those. What the fuck are. Those things called those. Mid Sixty. ECHO liner. Equal liner. Oh Yeah. Yeah. Those things are so fucking cool. Yeah, it's so fucking cool. You put some Craig. Craig. On that thing. Yeah. I told her. I said, if you want, I'll get you a van but I'm GonNa pimp it out like I want to flood I wanna, I want it to be like cap like six captain's chairs in it like just really. Cash Guy, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Georgia's. extensible. Custom vans from like the seventies and eighties they fucking totally that those things up. Yeah. Did they make fans anymore? Mini vans minivans are actually amazing. fucking cars. They are amazing like we used to. We used to always get a minivan. When we did production, it always got a minivan and. They're fucking great. Like The it might be like the perfect car. If it's super comfortable, everyone's comfortable. You can fall asleep in them. They'd like to captain's chairs in the back a bench in the back. I got out question the bench. I. Think There's four people that are comfortable. If you're number five more in the back I, don't know that it's comparable unless you're you're the only person in the back to get the laid out. Yeah. I. Remember We tried to talk my dad into buying a van during the seventies we went. We would always go to the car show and this is just pimping these things out and I remember we went inside this van right and it had. All of these captain's chairs with Cup holders and they swivel. All we were saying all the kids in the family would just like dad, you gotta get this thing and it had like wood. Wood grain and all of this shit that they put. It was so fucking cool. So instead. We gotTA Caprice Classic. Station Wagon. It was cold at a small V8, and it had the fake wood paneling was Maroon with the fake. It was like an eighty three but had to wire rims, they definitely one time they really spent money. Why They like the old school station. What it was, I wanNA see pictures. My mom had Let me say. Growing up. Capri. One, thousand nine hundred, eighty, three, caprice classic. Station. Wagon. Was Maroon with Wood. Fe fourth forward I, think. I'm looking at up caprice. Owl Bill Yeah and I think sick. Oh. Man. I would love. Dragon. Wagon. Wins at Dragon. Wag, US what we used to call them a dragon. My mom had the Ford Country Squire. Oh? That was it right there. So before it became like a big bubble. Oh. Yeah. Man. I'll tell you that car there. The caprice classic four door is a fucking man's car one, thousand, nine, hundred, three up freeze. Classic four door. That is fucking man's car. Might a buddy of mine. o'clock, fucking man. He would fight anybody that is sky blue one. I loved that car. Dude He. Came all rounded off. A Sports Car My love for cars is really. Back in the day. I, my mom had a white would grind. Ford Country Squire. and. She must a had have had three different ones on Lisa's I'm sure but like. The and I remember getting that and driving that my freshman, we had that when I was a sophomore in high school and we would drive in that and dudes just get wasted in the back and you just drive around and all man. I went to DC concert a station wagon. Tremendous. fucking tremendous I. Remember, the station Wagon, Bill. Whatever the station wagon, a mini. Van. The mini better is the SUV. SUV. Maybe. Yeah. Suv Minivans and all of that type of stuff and. I remember when the height of the SUV. Thing in the late nineties living out here in La. I remember thinking I just WanNa get a truck. So I can see over the fucking truck in front of me. I, just hated being behind that wall, and because I needed to see the traffic was moving and I remember. At some point. I don't know something's wrong with my car's by rented an SUV. And I got in traffic and I got stuck behind an SUV and I still couldn't see behind it. Big and has just like I, this is. That was like when everybody and that's. The. The, explorer Oh hi runner of lands unknown. It just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger the. New An excursion. I sat in it and I was like shut the fuck up dating a girl whose dad had an excursion and I got in the excursion. I was like moving from side to side like you can run in here. This is amazing. I knew a comic. That had a lexus SUV in the late nineties early two thousand and I don't know why. But like. All. The American ones that are big lumbering via whatever I don't know what the Japanese did. What this fucking thing, this thing hauled, ass. It was incredible. I couldn't believe like we still coming out of that era like, I. Don't like I'm old enough to remember when speedometers only went up to eighty. During that period in the continent, you know the car was designed to break down. It's sixty thousand miles, which from what I heard is what BMW did they kind of did that to their and they fucked with their brand a little bit. But now they're back, they update a bad period where they would do and shit like that. But. So but all the Japanese cars like my buddy had a Honda accord, it went up to one twenty and it was like this car do twenty two stepped on the gas, every eighty, five ninety and like slow down because it was too much traffic, but the car didn't shake it all. It was really like A. One of the biggest fuck ups in America is far as like we used to make great cars and when they did that twenty year period where they fucked over their own countrymen in the Japanese kept making cars. You know that with last and then they also would go up to like I mean when I was in the. In the as the Toyotas weren't. Schick other than that, they rusted out your lived up on the East Coast, I, love their pickup trucks. I even like the base model that came with the white rims because it was four wheel drive. I liked that blue one that had the white rims on it. I swear to God man if I was. Single, and still working as a comic like those are the kinds of things that I would buy. We wouldn't fly through, go through enlist every car. You Bone Kanye played about the cars that I like is I don't like fuck in shelby gt five, hundred, Mustang the bullet car that every fucking baby-boomer wants to buy their million bucks. I like Weird Shit. Yes. Seventy Eight, Ford F six, hundred, I'd have one of those. I'd have a GMC. You from stripes that motorhome. The green, the lime, green, I'd have an that. Sixty seven Cadillac Eldorado sixty seven Cadillac Eldorado, I wanNA I. WanNa Seventy two Cadillac. Convertible Eldorado. Which we what? Year? Seventy two is Okay. I, got. Red, white, interior. I've seen there's there's one I've been stalking. You know what? I saw the other day that I love. I saw late Seventies. Z. Twenty eight. It's like smokey and the bandit car style not. Not, the, what is called the body, whatever the one from the eighties, those things. I love those early eighties I, love an oldsmobile cutlass. Two door coupe with fucking tee tops. Gas fucking engine I like those I like the. I like mob boss cars. You, know I tell you. I like the Datsun. The fuck was called. DOTS that people always get four door. Datsun a ten be to the ugliest fucking car ever saw. There's a, there's a datsun. It called. There is a to ten. There is a to ten or does that from the early seventies? Yeah, that's an ugly ass car. That's not the car. There's a datsun that people trek out. It's almost like those early seventies ws two, thousand, two's that everybody loves it. SORTA, Dotson. Version that needs people like check them out and I fucking love those. I'll tell you what you know what you know. What car, my buddy. My Buddy's dad had, and we we drove to Boca Grande was a Lincoln Mark Seven. Was the one of the greatest cars it was. So fucking spacious and comfortable, and it drove like a fucking sports car I to this day. I missed I, remember thinking that's a car I wouldn't mind having. Yeah. Like continental I do like the one from entourage entourage. Kind of made. cheesy. Well, made it like mainstream, not cheesy because it's such a gorgeous car but. When I like old school limos. Oh I. Don't. I'm talking like back in the fifties I saw, I'm talking rolling stones when the Rolling Stones did the documentary that Limo, like a Cadillac limousine and it just seemed like. I get that car like, why wouldn't I have an old school, Cadillac Limo it? Mercedes that John. Lennon bought Elvis spotted they. Mercedes just gave some of their creators money. Just say go make the best fucking car that's ever been made. And they wanted for like bill around the world like diplomats dictators. They're the ones that bought this car and Elvis and. John Lennon had this car and it was just like they made like a stretch Limo mercedes-benz, a high. I, don't know I think when you first get into cars. It's it's almost like you're into the mainstream and shit like that like you liked the mustangs. Compare like that's eight. Camaro. My favorite cameras, the nineteen seventy-one. That is the corvette lights in the back in that Shark Soda, pointed nose upon like that thing is just as a monster. Have you seen the new twenty twenty corvette? No, but I seen the new Ford Bronco He. God. Well, the Ford Bronco. Kind of looks like one of those other cars I I like the old school for the one Rogan has data, Puckett Board, Bronco I like I like the full size one. I like the one OJ had. Not. That year I like I, like a the front end on the Ford from eighty, eighty, six that full-size one, my neighbor up the street when I was a kid at seventy nine. Or seventy eight, he had that front The Bronco. Became full-size in like seventy, eight, seventy, nine. Those things are amazing like that's the one you want, and then you take it to a guy who can fit stat cap in a back. Guy Knew that had one. You take it off one time. You never got it on slush again and they always leaked. So yeah. You have somebody upgrade that one. That's a great fucking car. Now, that's not the men get better than the Bronco two, eighty, three or eighty four. Do you remember the Bronco to bill? Yes. broncos had the windows that went up on the top. I remember I got driven to school in a Bronco to stick. Shift. Every. Four. Cylinder Knit Right? Yes. M Salerio used to driving school introduced me to the coolest fucking music ever the smiths and the band Cheese Public Image Ltd fucking. Stout on all of that music, I was just listening to metal and anything that had any sort of feeling in it as far as like. Sad. I was just like this pussy music. Yeah I was very lucky because I got in the car with him. I didn't know we lived in lutes and he was my big brother because they'd Perry up with the big brother to our. School. So they could drive you to school I remember. The. First Day and he's like. You like to Smith's and I was like I've never heard of the smiths and he's like. Well, that's all we're listen to, and for a full year, we listen to the smiths susie and the band Jeez. I mean just all and now I love that music. I wonder whatever happened to SAM scenario. What a fuck I knew assist assist her really well. But It's amazing like. You'd get into someone's life for a second. and. Then shift the way. They see things forever like now, I like that music a lot a lot. Because of Sam Slaughter fucking Samsung that can happen to you at this age. I think. That's what the woke movements about trying to my perspective. I don't know I. I'm not into woke, movement is, everybody gets to compete. For everything. I do not have a problem with over that. Yeah. I have a problem with people calling themselves woke. Like. No other people say. But I think it was like non white people. said. It's a compliment like oh you actually get. And then somewhere along the line white chicks just started going at work. I work. It's not just that woke signaling and. have. You had moments with your wife where she like early in your relationship where she was like Oh. No. Dice the thing and you saw it all the sudden your perspective shifted, and you're like, oh, that is fucked up like Like Yes, and I'm an argumentative person. But like I have this weird thing where like. Sometimes something. If she says it, I will argue the other side, but my white friend. Says what I was just arguing, I will then argue her sight. I? Mean, I'm like I. Swear to God, if I was at checkout would be the biggest conce you ever met be fucking. Spinster old maid, and I would deserve every second of it because men are not as forgiving. It's women. So Luckily, I was born guy. And I found a saint like my wife to marry me. I find a find the fact that you don't talk. You haven't really talked about your marriage other been this last special little bit. I find that fascinating someone if anything happens to me, it goes right on stage like I'm already on all kinds of shit like I can't believe he's fucking told that story. I. Talk about. Quite a bit I think in this last special was the first time I heard. You talk about the race dynamic with you and your wife at all I've never heard. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's not a fat like. It's I'm impressed by oppressed by this is the thing about all of that. What I've told people is because like when you're at home. It's The person you with so that all of that bullshit. It just it's when you go out into the world that that that stuff is all apply. But when you're home, it's just the same. Men Woman. Like, man. Woman. miscommunicated things that happen. It's not like Like always that how you make toast, you know I'm like all of those dumb things comparisons about how fucking different you are. That was. One of the like back in the day when I was doing talents rooms. The uptown rooms were basically the. all-black crowds when I first came in. Like, it was just like culture shock as far as like. I was so like, okay. What am I going to talk about? So in my head that all black people? Were just like this one giant Patrice. And then after like two three months. It became our that guys like burt disguise like that, and then after a while it's whole thing just goes away. And you almost like. Forget. It just starts coming to show which is what I wanted. To end up like having happened. So that feeds into why? Don't talk about my wife in terms of. You know in my wife who happens to be this? May, that was the first time sorta pertained to what I was talking about plus I hated that. When I would see because I've seen other comics that and I always felt like. So you're sort of you like are dating a bit. Like your day, it's like you you. You put yourself into like a situation comedy. Because because I felt like it was cartoonish. To sit there and be like, you know we wake up, you know and I. Put on my my white music, and then she has this stop and I'm like I. Don't know what that is. You know like I didn't want to do. I thought it was way more interesting to do this show. Similarities than to do the classic Fifi I found that I found that. I always looked up to like you in DC Benny. 'CAUSE DC. Mary Jo Balchik to is still is I think be never it was never like part of his act. It was just like Oh. Yeah. I fell in love and you know whatever, and so I always thought. I. Think if it's real if it's real, that's talk about them if it isn't then it's like How you would talk about like anything like one time I was dating this cycle check. One time you know I was dating. I was with this this this fat chick. Become like a cartoon. And, then the bit just this because when you with the big girl, you can't be letting them. Get Top had dumb shit. I never liked. That's my own preference. It's. Always founded. Admirable like I think, I, mind everything in my life for comedy. So I think I would I would have. Definitely. Tried to mind that as well like. Maybe, air is a particular. Thing that is specific. The I will do that guy I i. remember there was a time when I was doing a bit. That actually dealt with us being you know a different races and it was because one of his friends. Was Driving Cross country by himself. He was a black dude. So I was on the phone with them, talking to him like he was a white dude. I am you gotta take route sixty, six and bucket checkout this. There's a fucking. Alabama, you got saws barbeque to fucking. Talking to white. My Wife. Heard it goes. Is he driving cross country in this panic got voice and she jumped on the phone and she's like stay on the highways do not get off fucking highways only drive during the day and it was like a really like. Wow man like. This is his country to, and he is driving across this thing. I would drive across fucking Russia if I had no passport. So? That was a real. So, to be able to see that and then see all these people on the Internet. Who tried to say that racism? There was an old thing, doesn't exist this whole black lives matter thing is stupid like when I saw that and I heard the fucking terror in her voice, it was like a you know. Like. It's bucking rear end, and so that was something that I then took to the stage. How like? 'cause it was something comedic as tragic is that situation just is there was something funny about me just talking to him. You know check out seaworld where they get to taxes. You gotta get yourself some boats. I. Was talking to my mom or something. Yeah. What's it's so fascinating because I. Despite my interest and my interests have always been hip hop in my whole life. I told someone the other day when I was in sixth grade. When you talk to girls on the phone I would have you know you had the stereo, I would have to tapes in. I would listen to hip hop over a girl called. I'd hit pause input like reggae on because I didn't WanNa feel like I didn't think I liked it. So despite my interest Reagan. Bridges seem cooler like my what a cool guy with into. I. Love that outside yourself. Oh, I've always been that outside myself. You just like I like this music, but no one's GonNa like me right. What I have to pick guys at people like what they listen to I. Think they listen to this. I. Mean that really actions that part of. Growing up. Bill. I can't. I can't not get outside of myself on almost anything on almost anything like and I. Think. I. Think it's good thing. It's bad. I think Sometimes, damage control. Wise. It's really good. 'cause I see things ahead of things. That's it's not gonNA come out well. Why it's definitely why I'm having a hard time buying a car because the car I want is is not too expensive for me, but I feel like thinking outside myself. It does not. It doesn't send. It sends the wrong message to if I pull up at the comedy store and I'm in a really expensive. Kids working for fucking ten months are GONNA be like. Must Be Nice. There's no pandemic one card is eleven. Oh. I really want a big bodied, a big bodied sedan luxury car Mercedes or BMW seven series or like that. Then really Nice I love a big bodied. I've always wanted let me rephrase that I've always wanted in my dream scenario to have a big bodied sedan at my age like. The. Deter the CADILLAC DTIC old school one like I. Want a big fuck in. An old car right now, right now, during an economic downturn, which I don't know get any bigger than this year, you can take a car off somebody's hands. Get a good deal line, give them some fucking cash, and then you can have that thing. Redone. In the time we come out of this. You'll have like you know dude like I like the seventies, cars that literally looked though sedans that looked like you take that little Gumbo Siren. Put It on top. Yeah. Well, somebody over I love all of that Shit. Yeah. I would love that. But then I just feel like and this is clearly I don't know what's right. Is it right to just go whatever car want or is it right to be in to think about how that represents the way you look at people? You know like if I get a super expensive car or a luxury car and I pull up at the store I, feel like an asshole do what she now? Like listen. Those young kids see that you know it makes them WanNa work harder. That's how if I was younger, that's how I would look at it and I gotta be honest with you. I like live vicariously through people spending money. Sometimes, you're having to like I. Love. I love Rogan's cars. Rogan's got cars. He's got great cars in the way. He appreciates them any talk about him. He's not guided. Just got some money and he buys a car. Talks about what he does to him, and all of that type of stuff like I, you know. I don't as much as I come off like a really for people like I don't i. don't I don't WanNa see somebody not succeed. So I saw you pull up in that I wouldn't have. A problem with the cool shit. Yeah. I know I feel like. I'm I'm very cognizant of I. Think because I got so many comics, slam me for doing these doing working, you know and doing these drive ins and I talked to a couple of them that I think about me. Just. The idea that I'm I'm working. And they're not working and they can't do it and. It's irresponsible. They just said negative things about me working, and I I talked to a couple of them and then said. You know and I realized very quickly. They've shifted nece. Just a lot of our friends are not working. A lot of our friends are are in financial hardship that were not genuinely were not. You know at the beginning of the year, and so I'm very trying to be conscious of like. Of every saying just because you'RE A and if you go out there and then you get this thing to go longer I, mean I'm do I'm trying to figure out how to do shows right now where people are going to be safe because I don't remember bill, I, Gotcha. Shows people are sitting in there. fucking cars flashing lights at me. They're not flashing lights that you build. They're fucking awesome shows is just like doing a USO show. An arena show. It's a I'll I'll I'll? I'll look into. Let's get back to cars. Who've I'll tell you the biggest fucking sled. I've ever seen in I, don't, you probably can't even find one of these cars because they all got junk. Is Whatever that car is. Harvey Keitel drives in main streets. I don't know what it is. I'M GONNA. Look it up. I'll look it up right now. Hang on what's that all that caprice? Classic. Wagon I, also love a station wagon. All right, love. Rby? Georgia. Tell. Car In lean streets. Nineteen, seventy, two, imperial Lebaron. Thousand Nineteen hundred. Seventy Chrysler imperial. Lebaron lebarons great car. Look at the mean, ask front end on that fucking car Oli. Shit. That's a gangster car. Look at the little. That's a fucking two-door Koopman. You could park two and a half treatises with that thing. That is gorgeous. Yeah. Now, see if you got that thing redone. God. It'd be amazing. Is You took the fucking engine out. You made it electric. And you did like that Tesla, thing we on. On each on all four wheels. That level of torque instantly is quiet shit and then you do inside, it still looks like nine, hundred, seventy two, and they just hide what you can plug in you following shit. Oh, I know what I'm doing all day. Now, I'm looking for a fucking classic car. You got to do it I won't convertible or not convertible. I. I got a weird thing with convertibles why I think like it's a chick car the convertible unless it's a big car. But then guy looked like nick nolte and forty eight hours. You gotTA. Have that ex COP We'll card is that what that's the car I want. remember Eddie going to piece, of Shit, Sky Blue Cadillac. So it was A. It was some sort of, yes. Wow. Lucrative bugging, Gar Nude I could do that forever as far as figuring out like what the cars were that people drove. I'll tell you a great one to Steve mcgarry in Wifi vote. Because, I'm not good with the heavies in the crisis, Shit I know Ford and Chevy people always shitting on Ford. So I know a lot of Chevy stuff too. It's I'm matter sixty, four, Cadillac, Deville, convertible. Oh. Is it that old sixty? Well? Yeah. You think about it is that you don't another what the Cadillac, all the tailfins got bigger and bigger and bigger and like to nineteen, fifty nine, and then they slowly tapered and back down. Sixty four, still just a little tail fin on that thing now. Though. There's Tailfin. There's a big Tailfin, a wishy get compared to fucking fifty nine. No, it's like taller than me. Then it's got the to brake lights on it. Can Get a classic car guy on here. To Talk. Classic cars I would love to fuck in breakdown cars. I wish they could do with cars, what they've done with everything else like. Literally. Go I would love to understand design of cars and how we got to where we are now and no trends in design of like why the Rocco Safety car. Sake. Other net when I did Seinfeld's car up meetings in cars, the reason why so many looks similar and all of that is because the lines which they're allowed to create between. used. To be is is it was whatever your imagination could basically come up with? But if you watch some of these fucking videos through that I was telling you about late night on. What's the? What's the turn? A Cole Turner? Classic Turner Classic Movies late. Night. Friday night. They show crazy shit like two. In the morning. They'll show like cult classic movies, and then they'll show like old cop training videos and they showed like some old driver's videos of how you could die behind the wheel do in. On the late, fifties. It always reminds me of that Leno bit. Whether. We're talking about those old cars out. They had all this stuff sticking out at you. You get impaled on it. When you die, they Yankee off hosted off for the next guy like that was back when the engine went right back into the firewall, the steering column. State, you got nailed on that. You'd I saw this guy slammed into a tree and he was squirting out the side like toothpaste. was. fucking. Nuts. Yes. Oh, with that. In all of a sudden I think, what's his face WHO's the guy who ran for president? Who Killed The covert? Chevy. Kobe A. Guy. What's his name? Now, Gary Hart. Now, he was one of the good guys couldn't be corrupted, and of course, everybody said, he was a socialist commie because he was doing something for people on Ralph Nader earlier. So guys like Ralph Nader I think started. Pressuring car, companies, to make. Justice share amount of people dying. To make the car safer is the thing his heart was in the right place though when you look at global warming and all of that. Considering, reworking to do anything about it is still going to pollute the environment. Those people dying in a way was greener thing. It's it's like he can never. There's always going to be something that that sufferers. anyways, what I learned from doing the Seinfeld thing is, is they just had to keep making cars safer safer. and. It's really incredible. Now, what you can hit and not die is fucking insane. Yeah. But with the way you could dissect sex comedy and say you know there's a lot of that, their styles like this. Well, that's because of Mitch Hedberg There's a Lotta guys who've styles like that. That's of a tell or Stephen Right or I would love to know that was. Like, Oh, yeah. That rounded back on the Rocco's because of the Porsche nine eleven and and they also made an impulse and the Impulse Edison and it's all based off of this one designer. You know what I mean. Yeah. I'd be curious now. Who Do you think those more Seinfeld or Leno about cars. Leno. Because I think Jerry is is. Like his act very laser focused on courses, tribes, porsches, but he also liked the Saab Turbo I, remember him talking about that car like he had a very like. It seems to me, he likes that refine. European. Cars if they make over, there are incredible and what the interesting thing about that is because they considered. So many of our designs crude in vulgar. If you look at the landscape, we had all of this land. We had straight roads. So he stick a giant engineered in Florida, you can do that in over there. You know the the. So many of their roads are like old cow casts shit, and there's all of these. So they really had to focus on turning ability in suspension and all of that so much more so where we would just trying to like. Go down the drag strip and trying to beat somebody off the line, they were trying to like diving into the corners and all of that type of stuff I'm really glossing over. Over, that makes sense you're right. Because our thing was like hundred fifty s drag racing. Strata straightaways that makes sense Yeah. I don't think there's drag racing in Europe like, and I would think that they would say that is the most basic crudest form from a distance because I've been to a drag race drag racing at some of the most fun shit. Drinking Beers, just betting the whole fucking day Yawn I. Will. They had the big Daddy Don, Garland's I would rather go to one where it's guys who are working the jobs and work on their car on the weekend. Those guys in the coolest people ever. So I I would like to see that. I've done. I've I've raised the blowers, which is in the mud of race, the trucks, and I've done drag racing. And I'll tell you when you added that thing on top of the engine to Sophomore Erin. I duNno I, the slot ones where you can't you can't. You can go. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically the technology. All I know is you hold down a button and floor it. And the second. You see like a green, all you do is let go the button and all your hands straight and it is fucking. Terrifying. Walking tariff like it is, and by the way, very doable bill. If you ever want to do that, I can totally make that happen. I've I've done it so many times. But a drag. So we went drag racing and I didn't drive the guy drove. I was sitting next to him and they put a neck brace round me helmet and then they put my hands in a harness so I couldn't move my hands. They put my like. Basically like. Tethered my hands too much to the harness I was in my seat belt. And I was like what and they go. We just don't want your hands doing anything crazy. You'RE GONNA take off and your instinct will be like what like you don't and none of that Shit we just want you to go. and Man I pulled all the muscles in my chest just. Trying to pull away like it's instinctual. The second you go. What is it? I WANNA say it was like zero to one hundred and three seconds. It was just. It was so fucking intense. Yeah. I don't WanNa do that. I'm not a speed. I. Have a real respect for speed and I think if you're GONNA do speed. Speed I'm not do you see the cars I, like. RV's and station wagons and trucks. I'm not trying to do that buck in. burnouts and all of that I like watching people do that I have. No. Interest in doing that, now, I'm GONNA look. We didn't even talk about the book. We'll talk about that and there's no off-road. I do like that Oh mudan mud. Yeah. I would definitely do that sixty four Cadillac Deville. Convertible is what I'm buying for. Sale Bill. All right I got to look up the Oh while these are fucking gorgeous. Sixty, four I'm looking at up. Sixty. Cadillac what? Sixty? Four? Cadillac! Deville convertible. I always think convertibles AB. Ellie? One and silver silver with the white walls. That car right there when it's dropped down with that silver with the black, you can't have fuzzy dice hanging from it. That's fucking hockey. At this point, I think eighteen thousand dollars bill. Nineteen thousand, you spend another eighty grand in looked like the cars you look. I'll tell you the car that I loved. One CHAZZ Palminteri. Back Down the street that caddy in a Bronx Tale Oh. Yeah. That Candy Apple Red Oh. My God and that like I fucking loved the forehead headlights one on top of the other on the front end. Your. Yeah. I'm. I, love those cars. Those fucking Gangsta cars. The cars, the mob, guys, the Flash, mob? Guys. Are you watching that thing on Netflix's about Giuliani? And in that case when they took down the five bosses of the mob? Know. What is this called? I got right now. I got a David Foster and what's the other one? What's that one girl? I. Don't know what it's called, but you could find. called. kind of a weird name like scary town or something, it's like a rat metal. Look for it. To be honest with you man your recommendations have been spot on. We haven't talked about. It will save up for the next podcast, but I'm in the middle of fly boys right now, I want to get done. I WANNA I WANNA finish it. I can I can talk to you about it, but there's a bookstore. So I'd have a po box. It's Nana's part. Yet I haven't gotten there bill I haven't gotten there. Box Tell everyone send me your shit. I'll put on my instagram stories. We'll try to promote your business and a local bookstore listens to this podcast. It's five hundred bucks, ten, hundred bucks. They're all in the valley? And they sent me a box full of books and they on the note on the cover said, this is the book bill recommended to read it. Bill, will I don't want to talk about this book? Yet, I will say as I read the preface I've never read a preface, my fucking life. I. Read the preface and I went us good, and then the beginning of the book starts with. To tell the story properly I'm to go back to one hundred years. I'm the Kinda guy that when I, read a book, I see that and I go just get to the fucking story. When they do that. going. To set the table, it's like get to what I want to read about, but it's so fucking fascinating that I'm enjoying every word of this book. I'm enjoying this book so much that night. Amazing about that book. Another thing that's amazing is you will look at George Herbert, Walker, Bush. Way differently because his whole public persona was Natkin it. Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture I'm going to set up a committee and all of that that Shit and you see what this fucking guy did when he was eighteen nineteen years old. Oh. Actually I actually just started reading about him a little bit. They're introducing the fly boys right now. And so and you read that in, you're like what these are men, these dudes that are eighteen years old a hundred and thirty pounds. It seems like the dumbest name for the book, and then you realize that they really were just adults. How crazy is it bill that? We should stop because I. Don't WanNa, I wanNA talk about something else do is how new aviation was. About, sakes, when the guy was like, I can take out your whole armada with fuck in one plane and they're like, I'd like to see that and he's like don't even hit him on the fucking deck just to side bombs and the fucking. In eighteen minutes, it's amazing. But I'm just saying no as far as what they understood about flying like so much. That we know now today was because of what those fucking guys were doing. You WanNa talk about testing the limits of what an aircraft could do is like if you become a military pilot, if somebody starts shooting at you. There is no fucking way you're gonNA stay. I think nowadays I don't think that human beings can sly be on the envelope what they have but back, then you could in this stories of guys. Like, whatever they're doing I. I don't I don't like. Going into roles to try to get somebody off to, survive. The, blood in not known that fucking, you hold yourself to blood going down to their feet, they fucking pass out. And by luck, the blood comes back. They regained consciousness as going. Back Dude I saw this one guy, he fucking they shot at a is playing catches on fire in one of the big things about piloting was was I don't want to burn to death. You're the was with this guy, he said his head. If I ever catch on fire on knows in that thing over, and that's it, which sounds fucking insane until you're on fire. So he gets hit. He's on fire noses this fucking day forward and he went. So fucking fast down to the ground because he was on fire that he put the fire out because the fire could be fed by oxygen anymore. Somehow I don't know what I don't know a doesn't make sense to me because he's still in oxygen is it was rushing past caused a vacuum or what happened, but he ended up pointing it out. And then. Stick. With this bucket legs smoldering. And this the thing, and then like three. Land and they give you like a belt of Whiskey to get over the couple of days off and then you back in another fucking plane. To. These guys. Again when they talk about how the Japanese and how they treated their soldiers and they're like, no, they would beat us every fucking day and when they get tired, they have speed each other and you're going, how does that not fuck up your divas culture is that's your dad. That's all the DADS, all the DADS it's. And then like you just giving each other, fucking. Before you even go now, there was so much stuff where That happened in the south. Pacific. That they don't really discuss because I. Just I just think. Because white people basically have been telling the story, the identify more with Europe you. Do the shit like. How fucking hard core to just the just literally the environment. Of the South Pacific versus fighting in Europe as bad as the winners and all of that shirt because it was all bad. But like just the malaria, the diseases, the poisonous Shit Shit you could step on. You were out there. Forget about then the culture clash over there where like you would never surrender. As Japanese soldier you never surrender and the fact that we would they. If you surrendered you a sub fucking human and they already said. They already made us not human. They said, we had tales. They said, if we fucking caught them, we'd eat their children. They did the same shit we were doing was it was really like I read one time like it was. It was a fucking race war was a giant fucking race for your and where the Supreme God loves us the best. You know where the perfect you would be a lot of shit and. I've never been more empathetic for native Americans and Mexicans in my life like meaning I, read a book about Empire under the moon and under the summer moon and I read it. No I. Felt like I learned a lot. But for some reason, the way this guy writes my heart I for the first time in my life, I read it and I went. Like. It's all the shit going on in the world right now with. With with Elsie. How good that guy? He's a writer. He's a great fucking writer. I was like Goddamn and Mexicans got, Mexico fucked native. Americans. Got fucked beyond beyond what I ever. I already thought that, but then all of a sudden reading, this I got super fucking empathetic going like, God. Damn. It and I I don't know if it's because he juxtaposed it with the perspective of the Japanese. Had about a fuck it. Why can't we take China? You took California? You think. A lot of people? Don't. Like forgotten war like. China I mean, Japan, got into it with Russia in they beat Russia and then They were going to take some of their land and that was think they they needed to expand. of of their geography and they were GonNa do what all the white countries that done. Yes. All the white countries got together and said, no, you're not doing that. You're not white. That's basically they say. People, do that. Yes. This it Ngong like. So, what you think he'd just fucking. 'cause you got white skin that just start stand whole. I'm tell you when. I. Saw this fucking thing one time on fucking chimpanzees. Been in I'm I'm telling that human beings. It's the same fucking thing. If they're stronger, they're gonNA go in and they're gonNA fuck in, wipe you out and they're going to take. It's up indeed got off on the violence in afterwards. They would like fucking straighten around about what they did. I just saw. I've never looked at chimps the same way I fucking can't stand him. Because they. I watched them like that. You know as much as I said, watch out for bears. I mean, we are those fucking things. Except, you can play guitar. Could. Do all this shit that. His hair is so we don't look like fucking animals, but we are those things. In hindsight. Wrap this up. All right. Let's let's talk about fly boys next week and go into detail I would love to see if we can get the the writer on on next week I gotta be honest with you. I. Love. When we have guests, I like these a lot. This is a very seamless conversation. We should see if we can get, Leno, we're going to get in trouble if we have guests aren't feel like to way more. Yeah. No argument. Cars. Yet. Causes a great. You know. Do you know Leno? I met him a couple of times. Yes. I. Did his. His Jay. Leno's garage I did that a couple of times I would love to do I. I met Leno I was doing we ride motorcycles through the canyons and he just would fucking solid dude. He just goes out because he's a car guy and goes to the rock shop out up in the canyons has a cup of coffee and just looks at everyone's cars looks everyone's motorcycles and so shooting travel channel and he comes up. And I said Hey Umberto McCormick, and then immediately, just you can see him relaxing how cool man you work out at the you work at the. Hermosa comedy magic, and I went now too far for me to drive. He Goes, Oh, you're a comic. And, and then we were talking about ride motorcycles and he said get a full fucking facemask. Get a full helmet with a face mask. All your money's made right here. If you look fucked up, you won't be able to work get a full fucking face mask and I was like, cool. He's a great guy would love to get him on talk about ours. All right everybody. Thank you for listening to spend another wonderful episode of the bill.

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"The motley fool answers alison southwick. Joined us always by robert. Gosh i forgot to think of something to call you ahead of time. Broke camp personal finance expert here at the motley fool. Hello bro i think that's as good as any. Actually that was very dramatic. Thank you very well. This week's episode. We're joined by jay money. He's the founder of budgets are sexy and all star money. And i tried to make sense of. Non fungible tokens all that and more on this week's episode of so alison. what's ludicrous. It's not that ludicrous. Convinced me about it. Okay persuade me. Actually i think is the right word. Yes well bro. If you're like me when you first saw the acronym ft show up in your tweets you got as far as not at four. And then you realize you're quickly going down the wrong path and trying to decipher it. Nfc stanford non fungible tokens now from there. If you're like me you thought it had to do with mushrooms. Maybe mario brothers. I don't know so then you read a paragraph of an article got bored or confused and moved on with the knowledge that all of your assumptions were wrong. But then you didn't actually replace it with any real knowledge okay. And so that was fine until you started seeing f. T. everywhere and you realize that maybe you should learn what it means and also you have a podcast taping coming up so here we are. And it's not that ludicrous bro. Stay with me all right. Mitchell mitchell clarke wrote a delightful article on the verge explaining t so i'm largely relying on that also wired new york times and a few other places. Let's go all right. Non fungible tokens are essentially a way that you can claim ownership of a digital thing. So think music art tweets yes. These are all reproducible. But so is a postcard of the mona lisa. So non fungible tokens exists on a blockchain at this point. Mostly a theory but others are getting on board and there are online marketplaces like open sea bull and fifty gateway where you can buy and sell the official ownership of the digital thing again. We're talking music video. Art animated gifts for artists provides a new way to sell your work and you can also set it up. So that you get a little kickback. Every time the nfc changes hands with a new owner. Lots nice so right now. You're like bro. Why would someone pay millions of dollars for an animated gif when you can just download it for free again. Why would someone bhai a monet painting for millions when you can get it on a mug from the gift shop for fifteen dollars so it all comes down to the basic tautology that some things have value just because someone decides it has value now for some people the value might be bragging rights to that end. You get to buy an nf t fred digital drawing of a cat because you are looking for a new way to show people. You are wealthy for others. Value might be about your phantom or support of an artist or musician. Kings of leon grimes dead mouse and many others have released. And fte's for music and art and for others. The value might be purely speculative. You're buying the nf t for digital drawing up a cat because you think it will rise in value as many other people agree. They want that authentic digital drawing a cat. And you're like seriously digital yes. Ten years ago. A guy named chris torres created the animated. Meam niane cat. You know it as the flying cat with a pop tart for a body and it's leaving a rainbow trail behind as soon as you google. It you're going to be like. Oh cat i totally know what you're talking about. So in february torres created an nf t version and put it up for auction and it sold for nearly six hundred thousand dollars following a last minute bidding frenzy other f- tease out there. William shatner is dental x ray digital baseball cards photos of lindsay lohan. And the first tweet. By jack dorsey just sold for two point. Nine million. don't feel too bad because the proceeds argos support a charity. So there's that and if t. Are definitely booming right now with probably more speculators than collectors and fans driving up prices but experts looking beyond the boom. See a great opportunity for a new way to guarantee authenticity. So for example nike already has a patent to create. Nfc's attached to shoes to guarantee their authenticity. Called crypto. kicks so when you consider that. A pair of air jordan twelve flu games are worth more than one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah i think. I want an fte with that purchase. Please and maybe you're still skeptical like a bunch of people in the comments of the articles. I read but seriously. How is this all that new and different. It's not like people buy sneakers art or baseball cards for the value of the materials themselves. They buy them for the aesthetics. The design the rarity as the new york times quoted. Marc andreessen. ben. Horowitz a two hundred dollar pair of sneakers is like five dollars in plastic. You're buying a feeling and right now the feeling that. Fte's is similar to one a stamp collector or baseball card collector or art collector or fashion. Or even a speculator might feel. It's that feeling that you are special because you own something someone else wants. And that bro. Is what's ludicrous or really. Is it come on shut. Sixty shuts the merriam webster dictionary defines sexy as quote suggestive or stimulating. And i'm sure that when you hear those words the first thing that comes to mind for you is a budget right. Well if not then you haven't met today's guest jay money his real name founder of the offbeat personal finance website. Budgets are sexy dot com j. Money welcome to mali full answers. I love that intro. I'm going to record that. Take everywhere with me. I love it. So let's start with some biographical info ready so you're military kid. Your dad was in the marines. You studied graphic design and college tried to make it in the big apple in new york city for awhile returned to dc and you had all kinds of oddball jobs. Customer service working at a stamp factory. I think waiting into the exciting world of ringtones or something like that But then in two thousand seven. You and your fiancee. Who is now. Your wife began looking for an apartment in. Why don't you take the story from there. Oh yeah we started to look for apartment because we're gonna to live together and took a wrong turn one day and we saw this nice townhouse that was near water was for sale. And so of course you know what you do when you're looking to rent as you go and look for house for sale call a realtor. He was amazing. Good at as early as job. He came showed us the house and in a nutshell within forty eight hours. No money down. No real plan. We literally spent three hundred and forty three hundred fifty thousand dollars on a house when we went to rent a two bedroom place And that and that really a was a crazy. Spur of the moment thing. You don't want to do but that really opened my eyes to wait. Maybe i should pay attention to my money. I went googling how to budget all that good stuff and Came across all these blogs all these people talking and sharing real life numbers in real life budgets and net worth and that was like mind blowing for me to seeing real numbers and so that inspired you to form a website. Called budgets are sexy dot com. Obviously the name is catchy. By the way when i was looking at the definition of sexy i saw synonyms was bodacious. Was something also you considered. But how did you decide the name of the site. Yes so at the time. Justin timberlake's bringing sexy back song. That's how long ago know. Twelve thirteen years old now and i loved it and you know and money like when i started reading for about six or seven months online like i thought people were interesting but it was kind of like the boring stuff over and over again. And i'm like you know. If i'm gonna start riding allen to be fun edgy sexy in it right like all millions of search. All these people from google come in trying to gain the market a little bit game the system but really i just thought it was fun and to me at the time like once i got my budget going like i realize it gave me kind of confidence as a group. Just give you confidence. And what makes you sexiest confidence. And so it kind of just did it for fun and you know now people can eat some people. It's blocked at work. You can't even get to it so that was like my grand. Scheming did even working for that. Also probably because he used some colorful language here in every once in a while. And i do. Yeah but that's fine. That's fine part of the character of the whole thing. Well and i find too like for me as i learned talking to someone not a coffee shop or just a friend and you try to be real. Because you're talking in real life for me like people that do that mind like it resonates with me and i feel like i'm there in the room and so i tried to not monitor myself with that as best as i can at least one point you alluded to is that you found these other bloggers out there. Basically opening their monetary kimono and showing their worth. Which is something you do. Which is i assume why. You have a pseudonym because jay money is not real name right right so tell me about that. Takes a lot of guts in my opinion. Yes well i'll say it's a little easier when you don't have money and at first when i first started you now like i was in my mid twenties. I'm now forty one forty two who knows And so i started tracking. At the time i realized i had about forty or fifty thousand dollars and four 401k and cash money but not a drastic amount so it was never really worried about like. I didn't get nervous. Sharon it at all. But i was nervous. I talk about work a lot on my blog. So i decided to be to be anonymous there and then i knew in a perfect world. Hopefully the money would grow. And so i started sharing from the beginning. What was my savings investments. You know dead car payment mortgage now and that really helped me to really track over the years and see what i was doing. Good and bad and ultimately you know as blasphemy you know for me to say by stop budgeting about or six years ago and now all i do is way network and like that number alone keeps me on track. Keeps you motivated. You know and again you can see your transformation over the years when you publicly publish it like that. And i think you're comfortable with me sharing with the world that you're a millionaire at this point. excited yes. Yes no no one cared. When that happened. I was fun. Actually be a celebration. But that is your net worth right. It's about one point. One one point two million at this point something like that. Yes yes. I published all the way up until basically i sold the blog to a wonderful wonderful company. You might have heard of called the motley fool and so yeah that was my last hurrah like cross the million you know and then that felt like that. I think after that. I would start feeling a little weird sharing because like the number's higher with covert and everything like just a whole whole brand new world. So i think you were doing things that i think are probably helpful and that is first of all the tracking and the sharing of your net worth because they kind of the kind of involve a little bit of accountability. And do you feel like that helped you at all when you put it out there and you're like okay. I actually have to take this seriously. One hundred percent. Yeah because especially if i broadcast it to all around the world you know like i know i have to back it up or at least say. Hey i did something stupid. You know every time. I had the credit card or i'll stick in a big decision. I always thought immediately. Like what is going to happen to my network report and it's kinda stupid and nerdy but at the same time like it really did. Stop me from doing a lot of crazy things. At that time that i was interested in doing so yeah helped me. Accountable helped me kept on track. And really that was and now the network. That was what got me. Interested in. The financial blogs in general was the real life transparency from real life. People i just. I just love that so besides budgets are sexy. You kind of built up at one point. A sort of a mini blog. Empire tell us a little bit about that experience of your essentially like an online landlord in a way. Yes oh interesting. So i didn't really know about making money online like i knew people had ads. You know but. I didn't really understand like i'm not an entrepreneur. By heart is all kind of accidental. I started the blog for fun to be accountable and then all of a sudden advertisers say. Hey here's fifty dollars. If you want to put a put up an ad. And i was like this is great. I'm doing it for free. You know this is wonderful money. And then as they got going i realized there was more to it in one day a blog friend of mine said hey. I can't blog anymore. Do you want to buy my log. And i thought by a blind like your diary like how could you buy that. But in a sense like he was making money like two or three hundred a month you know and it was so is technically a business. He said look. We'll just hire writer. You just manage it you own it and you know whatever the difference from the income and expenses your prophet and i said no and then folly. He was like look. I think i don't know. Maybe he wanted like ten thousand dollars for it. And then i think i got it for like three or four thousand and the number. I think maybe it's making four or five hundred a month to because it. I remember making a lot of sense. And at that time. I see you know what it's worth the risk. Let me see what happens. So i bought it and then i realized wait. That blog gets advertisers. My blog gets advertisers. You can cross promote the advertisers double the real estate right online like a light bulb came out and i was like. Wow this is great. And so then. I started looking even asking bloggers. Hey ever done blogging united. Be interested in buying your site and about five years. I had about twelve or thirteen sites house. Managing only wrote for mind. Budgets are sexy and the rest site properties and. That was a great until i start having kids and i was working sixty seventy hours a week and i thought this is not like the lifestyle as a blogger right. This is not what they think. And so i ended up. You know facing that out but yeah that's how it got started really opened my eyes and just the online world and making money. I'm curious about one other thing that you tried during this period and that is being sort of a money coach. What does that involved in. How did that work out so over time people would say hey like can we hop on the phone can ask questions on money and now do when i realized was that people it is about money but at and the day like it was always about their dreams and always about what people wanted out of life and so when i started doing the coaching i start offering coaching egg because it was fun and people are asking for it and then i realized you're kind of like a financial therapists like you were talking about money but it was more about like what you wanted to get out of life and your dream lifestyle and so i did it for about two or three years and eventually it was just so emotionally draining because you're just talk about life in dreams and goals and failures you know and so you know i would charge fifty dollars one hundred dollars a session and help people realize their dreams over the course in a few years or at least started a lot of fun but but really draining. I don't know if you know this. But i actually have a graduate certificate in financial therapy because that's a real thing. It's a budding thing it's been around since maybe the late two thousand nine ish or so okay. Because both people in the counseling profession and people in the financial planning profession realized that money and emotional wellbeing and happiness are so intertwined that you kind of have to know a little bit of both. That's fascinating so since people often of of personal finance bloggers of put them into camps. Like there's fire minimalists family finance experts. Maybe side-hustle experts. Where would you put yourself. I guess i would put myself like. I'm kinda go with the flow type of person like even though i'm a finance guy like i'm very bad at planning but i'm very good at figuring out like how i feel about things and tooth my emotions. Maybe a little too much. So i am into minimalism. I am into the concepts of fire. So those are the two that i'd probably pick. I have no plans on really retiring. But the financial independence part of that fire to give you freedom and options i think is huge and then with minimalism. Of course less fiona you maintain. I'm realizing as i get older that all this stuff. I thought i cared about growing up and stuff. Fancy cars big houses and everything like i. Just don't actually weighs me down and even buying that house all those years ago. That was probably like one of my biggest financial regrets. Because i was tied an emotional regrets but at the same time it opened me up to you know talking to you and building blogs so interesting a lot of people either there is the financial aspect and then there's an emotional aspect but you have to figure out where you fall and then you know there's different solutions depending on your personality and your comfort levels so you talked about your house. You just mentioned cars and then typical american budget. The house is the number one. Item car is the second item. Cnbc just published an article that cited stats from experience which found that the new average monthly loan payment for new car is six hundred dollars. All near six hundred dollars on a lot of people are devoted a lot of their budget to cars. Now you on the other hand had the franken caddy tell us black. Tell us about the franken caddy miss her. Yes ninety three cadillac deville. I bought it from can who had bought it from an older person. That really drove it. I think it had like eighty thousand miles on it and it was like it was only three thousand dollars and i thought at the time. This is right when i started getting into paying attention and kind of challenging. What do i have. What do i need what i actually care about and i had an suv. At the time. That i paid. I think twenty three thousand four at the time i was like wow like i can just sell that by a beater car actually happened to love and not have to worry. The suv was more new. Like i was worried about rocks hitting it. I was just worried again. Going back to the emotional state. And i realized that you can be like an. I am a car guy to degree. But what i know is like i could be happy and a lot of different cars. I could be happy in a hoop d. I could be happy in a rolls royce. I can be happy in a lot of different ones. So whatever one fits me financially is probably the one i said. Choose and so if they're equal happiness the night than i revert to the to the to the law and the cadillac was great. So i bought it jovan around for many years. It kept getting in car accidents. People would hit me even parked and people in hit it when it was parked. And every time you know the insurance wasn't worth anything right but then search like oh that will cost twelve hundred dollars to fix my great. I'll just take the check. I will not fix it so the years like i think it earned about two or three thousand dollars and basically paid for itself but it was great. It kept out and character over the degrees right. Just called it like a frankenstein kind of car. Because it was just like bent up and they had a mishmash of different parts in it get street. Legal at least they is great car. And i miss her. Yeah i i suppose was was kids. The reason one of the reasons why you eventually had to get rid of it. Yeah that's it man. I'd still be driving right now. But it wasn't all safe all the way. Some of the belts in the back were weren't working at wasn't updated safety stuff. And so once i had the kids had to make the decision and of course the real life babies come before non-real life baby so that started the descent into being an adult and being a father. Actually a lot of the last five years is really of me coming to terms with looking for other people and not just myself all the time. Shut the truth. I've got four kids and older than yours but it it keeps going going so already pointed out that you are millionaires. What am i all time. Favorite books is the millionaire next door. Which found that real life. Millionaires are not what you would think with big houses and fancy car. They're basically people who find ways to live below your means. I completely fit that profile. Also i know from other interviews. You've done another podcasts. You said that your wife is super frugal and one of the findings of the millionaire next door was that the wife tends to be more frugal than the husband. You're some good practices that you and your wife have put into place. Or maybe you've seen from other couples when it comes to managing finances as a couple. Because i know for many couples. They're not on the same page. Yeah i think we've played with different rules and different things like we first had our money separate for the first two years of dating and marriage and then when you know getting into minimalism and trying to figure out a strategy we started combining Certain things that she's good at an enjoys and then vice versa and one thing that she hates his dealing with money and so lucky for me i love it so i said well let me take control of some of the stuff you don't like and i'll do it and then some of the stuff that i don't like she's good at or enjoy is she. Took over so like trying to figure out where our sweet spots in the beginning was really helpful and then of course yes as good. You know if you can can marry someone frugal. I mean and i think a lot of us do especially when you're younger. You don't really care about that stuff. I did it. Like i did not care money whatsoever when i met my wife. You know so as more about the connection but as you get older and you pay attention this stuff. Of course that is good if you can figure that out but as far as different things we did like east. We had two things in the beginning that i've done i've seen other people. Do we have like a blow money whereas like hey this is your account. I think we had like fifty dollars a month or one hundred dollars a month that we each got and we can spend it. No questions asked on whatever stupid thing. The other person thinks it is and like that saved us from like budgeting everything and asking permission and all that kind of stuff. It was just pure independence money. Is there anything that you had trouble letting go of or sacrificing and be like man. There's no way. I can live without that but then you did. And you're like you know what this wasn't so bad after all. Yes iphones. I thought there was no way. You can probably one of those things out of my hands and over the years again going back to challenge like big experimenting and challenging myself in one thousand you know like what do i use and do i need it. What do i like about it. What i now can i swap it out right and iphone. I was like the big thing right. Like i love it but i was like i really love about it. Taking pictures texting calling people internet and obviously with phones smartphones. Like you do that with any phone. It does not have to be the iphone and so over over a month or so. I started really thinking about looking at other plans and then i switched and i think we are paying for my wife and i both about one hundred and fifty two hundred a month on cellphone plans. We switched to republic wireless and at the time. I think it was like twenty or twenty five dollars a month. It's the right now actually. Even today we spend fifty dollars a month for a phone. That takes pictures you can text. You can get the internet and it's one hundred dollars saving every month and that really like a. It's really hard to do to switch subscriptions of course especially phone because it's annoying right like there is no fun switching adding numbers and do all that good stuff but what. I realized that it's continual money. And if you do want one hard thing first and then it continues to save you a if you put it in the bank account right away. You're actually literally saving it for the rest of your life in theory. So that's the trick is not to start spending somewhere else and then which case you you break-even but once i did that i was feeling good and then later cancelled cable. Which nowadays isn't that comment or is there a common back then. Five or six years ago it was starting to go and i started tightening. Like breaking off some parts of the cable bill and then finally. I got rid of that altogether and haven't looked back and i think that was about fifty or sixty dollars in savings to so that right there was two hundred dollars every month and i'm doing thing thousands of dollars now. So that was you know my experience and now that's why i look at subscriptions especially mike. What can i kill even stuff that i like. Sometimes i try and child myself to kill it and then you can always add it back later if you really miss it. I've mentioned your site many times over the years but it's our sexy dot com because it has a great page for free budgeting templates and last week. We talked about tools on the show. And we mentioned meant and personal capital. And all those. But when slagging with you mentioned a couple of others that maybe folks don't know so much about. I thought you could take some time to talk about on. That'd be great and they are digit and acorns. Digit is basically a nap. That you sign up you connect your kenilworth and it's a little freaky sounding. But it'll basically analyze your spending and see what you can actually save an instead of just like alert. You're telling you. Hey you can save this right like literally pushes the money into savings for you So i guess little freaky. They go and analyze. Push it in there. But it actually takes action on your behalf if you're a horrible. It's at saving. That's really really good. People that are good at it like us. It doesn't really make sense for the for people that just want to save and even temporarily. Let's say you're safer trip. It'll push fifteen dollars here. Seventeen push two dollars. Thirty cents like it. Just analyzes your stuff so i really like digit and then acorns is a little different rounds up all of your spending that you're doing like let's say you bought five dollars and thirty cents. Coffee it around seventy cents up to the dollar and then drop that into investments. So that's an easy way to invest without doing a thing all automated and again mainly people. That aren't that good at it that that wanted to do it. But don't know how this kind of gets you going and then usually when you get good at you can kind of do it yourself and because all these apps you know costs a dollar two dollars three dollars a month minimal but at least gets you gone. At least you're saving and investing right away then inverse thinking about it all the time got it so as you referenced earlier in the show you no longer own budgets are sexy dot com crazy. You sold at some crazy. Company called the motley fool. You've been writing the blog since two thousand and eight. What was behind the decision to make that transition. Yeah number of things over the years. I realized that. I no longer and motivated by money or like empire-building taking over the world like i kind of realized we're happinesses for me and it's in waking up kind of working on something for a few hours i enjoy and then with the rest of my time. Just doing whatever. I wanted to hang out the kids read. You know into like cemeteries go. Visit a cemetery collect coins which i do for fund the more i again as an entrepreneur. Person you're always building and building and so even going back to owning the twelve or thirteen different sites. I realized that that is not helpful for a lifestyle. It's great for money and business and stuff but not if you want to not work as much right and so over the years i started selling a blog or other projects i have and budgets are sexy was my baby and my my online resume and so that was really hard but i and with minimalism. Two i wanted freedom. And i wanted to see. I really wanted to challenge myself. Can i still enjoy what i do for a living and still being the personal finance space without owning anything right and so you know. I was waiting for the right company. I almost sold it a few years ago but more out of wanting money and more desperation than anything else. There's a few years in my life in blogging and innocence. All on the blog. I start losing money. I started not wanting to work as much. And so i started losing money in depleting my savings right and again. That was a pure lifestyle choice but it has consequences and so at any rate when you guys came along just natural fit. The cultures are really nice. I thought you know what now is the time to do it. And you guys said hey. Here's some money to buy it. We will even pay you to continue writing for it. And i thought this is perfect. This story about marketing business accounting. All this stuff growth. That comes with you. Know being an entrepreneur like yes we right bogging but there's all this other stuff people don't think about so freedom number one was was it challenging myself number two. I'm with the minimum stuff and then ultimately you know was over a fourth of my life. I've been a blogger and my identity is so wrapped up in what happens when you sell something. Do i go away to people. Talk to me anymore or weird to think about you know and i did what i do is i kept my twitter. Because that's what i love. Is i still have at budgets. Are sexy and i sold like nothing really happened and still writing for but you know like i'm still around so that was like wow. I can still do what i wanna do. But i can release all of the responsibility of ownership and same with with owning stuff right like it's different different mentality and i love it. I'm big into no responsibility. Even though i have a million kids so one aspect of your new life is another fool property. I saw some way to say it. I guess is that is all star money. I'll start money dot com and it basically you're scanning more than fifteen hundred personal finance blogs and highlighting three great post every day. So tell us. First of all a little bit about why the financial block community is so interesting and compelling yeah i mean it goes back to just real people talking about real life money and sharing their stories and their ups and downs. And it's just such a fun entertaining way to learn you kind of learn. Accidentally you start reading about the people about their situations. You relate to it some things you're like all you're nitty. You shouldn't do that other times. Oh that's great. I'm gonna steal that idea from you. You know versus like a lot of corporate sites and you know they're all like they all tell you what you already know how to save money you know. Make peanut butter sandwiches cut insurance. You know they saw stuff we all know. Everyone knows how to save money. But what gets you to actually take action and for me and a lot of people. It's people telling different stories in antidotes and stuff until something clicks and so the community's gray and also fifteen hundred blogs and there's probably another five hundred out there we're not tracking yet. We keep adding daily. But they're all around the world and all different types right so you got people on the uk talking you have different near the fire groups. There's a whole group for physicians in money. You know people that make a lot of money that spent a lot of money like how do they reach financial independence. You have fire you have you know. Lgbtq plus you have all these different niches women men gay straight. it's just it's amazing different culture so anything with money. All around the world people are writing about it you know and for free. They're doing it right and some make money anyway. Years ago i had a site called rockstar finance and i thought you know what i read articles. I love sharing. I'm just going to share my theory every day and that way people can say. Hey here's the breadth of everything. Find a block that you love and start following them. You know and you don't have to saw internet. You can just come here every day and see what you like and what you don't like in different perspectives. And so that was. That was the germ of it years ago and i bought that and we sold it kind of crashed and burned. When you sell something. You don't really want like what's going to happen. After the second or third person owns it it crashed and burned and everyone missed it. And i missed it. I'm like oh man. That sucks like our. I enjoyed reading it. You know even when i sold it and the molly fool team came in. We talked and said let's let's rebuild it. Let's add to the community and so you know here we are. Now it's awesome. That's great so let's close with a reading recommendation or if you can be a book a blog specific post maybe it was written by you or anyone else or all three whatever but it could be something that you know. Maybe had a big impact our new or something. You'd recommend for people who want to be better with their money. I'm yes so something that's changed me a lot with mentality and just the hustle nature if you just tend to hustle and wanna do everything at once was a book called centralism by greg mcewen mccone something like that and it really helps you take stock of what you're doing career if you're building something and kind of funneling out all the nonsense that we do you know and just focusing on you know the the twenty percent that makes eighty percent you know sense in growth you know and so for me. I kind of realized you know like there's there's money there's time there's all this stuff that that you know paying attention to finances does But i wanted time time for me is like the number one thing like. How do you have more time so everything i do now. Structures around having that ideal lifestyle and essential. Azam really helped me narrow that down. And there's a lot of other great finance folks. You mentioned the million next door automatic millionaires and interesting one. I think it all this stuff depends on your mentality. Do you just want like steps or do you want to kind of like have stories and be entertained. Richest richest man in babylon is is a really good story book and again with the personal finance community. Like anything you're looking for is being talked about online. And so is so nice with the internet to be able to find everything so fast and people that are generally helpful and nice and not much of chaos toxic knicks which exists in other communities online. Do get hated me all. That's not how you budget the reading again right like you get hate mail but as a little different than like political blog you know what i'm saying communities generally warm and welcoming which also helps to the pie. Well folks our guest today has been the sudan is j. money you can learn more about him at j. money biz rita's past writings at budgets. Sexy dot com and read. What he thinks are the best personal personal finance blogs every day at all star money dot com j. money. Thank you for coming on the show thank you do you know that you and i met twelve years ago. I was trying to find email determine when it was but it was it was at aarp. Event that i was like the leading roundtable right. Yeah and you're one on the first people outside of the blogging community that reached out. And it's so funny that we're here a decade later talking. You guys bought budgets. We're kinda colleagues or something. We're both a decade older now to for that's true but i still have more hair care but it's more great having you on the show. All right. that's the show. It's edited non fungible by rick engdahl. Our email is answers at full dot com. Yes of course we do have a mailbag episode coming up soon so sending some questions. We'll try to answer them broke camp. I'm alison southwick foolish everybody.

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368: Famous Stories of Playing Through Pain and Injury; Robert Kraft Cleared in Massage-Gate

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You're enjoying those Rich delicious Piko flew off. Old World Pizza made the way it's supposed to be Piko order online or drop in at 236 Richmond Road or 170 Metcalf be swp podcast Sports and whatever. Oh, yeah, it's Friday Friday. It's okay for you to say. Oh, yeah, it's Friday Saturday and Sunday, that'll be off me. It's Monday again. Again. Again, Saturday and Sunday with that'll be my Van de than me. It's Monday again, Everybody. Welcome to the show. It is the swp tales of sports package. Whatever as we wind up another podcast week with our daily exertions. And the podcast department at is Steve along with Jimmy. Thank you for being with us. We hope you enjoy the show James. How are things off? Stevie I'm fine things are fine order the new carpet Steve big day for the rebuild in the basement After the flood. So I I went over to the carpet joint and then I said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I want to order and there was a there's a check there. And so I had a sample of my old carpet I said, well, I don't know maybe we could match that maybe not Thursday we could we could may not have to what what's that match it to what so I got a I got a two story house with the basement. Yeah. So the third story The Base wage anyway, so that's where all the carpet got wiped us are going to replace that. So the other two stories, you know has carpet on there and this on the stairs and stuff and and she started going to the single. We need to match off try and match that guy's I said. No, we don't we don't need to try and match you down in the basement. I don't need to well we should you know, what's your paint color as fuck? Excuse my language? I don't know. I don't know just well, this is a nice carpet here cuz there's some specs in there that can draw the anyway, she she caught me nodding off sleep not not falling asleep, but I don't know Steve. So she said well you'd have to decide. Well, he's saying he didn't know the color as far as you know, whatever Benjamin Benjamin Moore decided to name it like a nice Balboa mist or something like that. You know that name new roughly what the color was the basic color like it's gray or whatever. But yeah, can you give me the code of the paint? No, I can't. I don't know the code of the paint that I used. I just want some carpets, you know, just slap some carpet in there making a neutral a off your goal. Anyway, I'm a bad customer, you know, bad customer. Anyway, that's so I don't know. So what I'm laughing at is I I ordered something I have no idea. What I ordered is in the end. I just got a little impatient just slap something down, which I've kind of a dummy imagine not inpatient. They must feel yeah. Exactly. Yeah. There's a great speaking to one of my favorite joke is the the guy who's golfing and he has a regular caddie. All the time has the same guy and he's a terrible golfer Steve terrible golfer and you know, the Cadillac DeVille drags the bag to the first day of your hi sir. How are you? Here we go, you know and the the guy snaps one out of bounds, you know, his first tee shirt reloads, you know skulls that one into the water, you know makes an eight or nine on the first hole and goes to the second Hall hits it into the bush and and he catches the caddy out of the side of his eye sees the caddy rolling his eyes off. After he snapped and the golfer says did you just roll your eyes at me and the guy he goes? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did he goes. Let me tell you something Buddy about golf. Okay, it really teaches patience and the cat. He said you should try caddying home. Anyway, there's something messed up with my mic. Oh, like right now I'm getting my home all that's what's happened. You know, that's my boss old cuz I lost you there for about 20 seconds there, but I don't think the waveform looks really good. So I don't think I lost anything right away apologies for that month. So if you totally given up on golf, like are you done like you just so tired of all that you've just abandon the sport entirely I did. Yeah I did for this year off. Sure. I don't know what'll happen next year if I get back into it, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know, you know, I love golf as you know, I played my whole life. Someone asked me the other day. How long how long when did you take up golf? You know how long you been doing it and I remember walking up to the golf course Steve from my school in Sudbury. It was a few blocks away. And I I remember starting to walk up there after school when I was in grade five. So how old I was probably Seventeen in grade five normal life. However old you are grade five five years old is kindergarten. So I'm ten years old, I guess ten years old and grade 5 and I remember that's when I started golfing. So 48 years Steve, I've been playing golf 48 years and and then for some unknown reason Cove it's kind of started it but I just gave it up. I just gave it up. It was was too expensive. I gave up my membership. You know, it was I was only playing a dozen times a year and it was it was at a golf course it was you know through the roof rack seven thousand bucks a year Steve, you know to play but how terrible we get, you know, and then you see someone like Brooke Henderson who's you know, she's wins about a dozen teenagers. They just she's like 23 now. It's a 22. I don't know what she is but just to be that good that's soon I'm like you I'd love him playing, you know, maybe not as much as you but I've been playing off and loving it since I was about ten and and the reality is I I never got around to taking lessons. I want to be good. I'm addicted to it right but it's it's so frustrating to have a game. Play the game for such a long duration and come nowhere close to solving it whatsoever. Yeah, I mean it was a good golfer, you know end up being a good golf when a bunch of turn like up in Sudbury in Northern Ontario there and like wage I want a bunch of stuff when I was when I was you know was old enough to start to hit it a little bit, you know, thirteen fourteen years old and I was like I said, it was good. Love all we did was play golf all day in the Summers Steve there was no there was nothing eighteen holes here. We just kept going round and round like till it got dark, you know, right and and and played thousands of games, you know thousands of games. I want a big tournaments TV on his fifteen. I was in the Northern Ontario junior, you know, big big wide shoe. Yeah, look at me go look at me go. And so I always I always thought this is you know, I'm going to I'm going to give it a whirl. I was I was going to try and go to a college in the states and I could have my old man was a friend to help balding who was one of Canada's Great golfers dead. And so my dad had a connection there and then involved he said I can get you into this Indiana state but I think there's two universities here. This would have been the smaller of the two months and I said, okay, you know, it's but you can try out for the golf team. If you don't make it though, you're toast, you know, you can go to school there. And if you do make it then we'll get your books or something. So my own mats and that ain't happening you're not going to do that. So we're going to send you the university here in Canada where you'll get a very, you know, usable degree. I thought well if you were going to do that, I guess you'd have to go to class and ship it's one that whole anyway anyway, just interest I've lost interest in the game. You know, it's just I was I'm not very good any more Stevie. I'm I'm getting older. I can't hit it as far I don't putt as well anymore. I used to be a Phenom. Potter and yeah, you're moving your head too much moving ahead. Keep the head down. I hope you have found get it down. Just don't move it. Yeah a bad idea by the way home. Anyway, I hope I hope I get it back but it's you know, I wish I would have learned like something like squash or tennis club or or something else and the only reason is because golf takes up so much freaking time so much time so time-consuming, you know, and and the other thing Steve it's conducive it's conducive to nothing in the rest of your life. Okay golf is like, you know, if you go through a normal life Stevie, okay, where you get a job for example your first get your first job in the early twenties or whatever like I did when I was twenty-three going full-time job. Okay golf doesn't work for that Steve. Okay. It's a bad idea for job. And then you get married bad ideas Steve for the religious. Chip with with your wife and then you have kids super bad idea Steve when the kids are infant. Do you do you throwing your clubs on your shoulders sink? I'll see you honey. Look after everyone here. I'm just going to go flake off for six hours, you know. Yeah, I disagree I disagree in a couple of points there. And then I think it's amazing for business. I mean so many deals are made on the golf course and my daughter now I'm you know, the two of us go golfing and I loved it. So once the kids are old enough and you get them and they'll Junior lessons and things like that. My daughter went to read a review for junior camp for about six years just got a nice little swing on her as a result. And so we go ahead and bat the ball around. We have a great time with it. So from a family and a business perspective. I find that it's excellent. It's it's nice when you get get older for sure, I guess, you know, it's it's you know, like I'm dating this chick now plays golf right? So it's it's it's fun to go play nine holes, I guess I dodged. That four or five times this summer played played nine holes, you're falling into the Trap. They'll Steve of someone got away with this a long time ago. Okay that it's it's obviously a guy who was hooked on Golf and a hundred years ago said to his boss, but it's really good for business. Okay, so so somehow someone fell for that, you know golf is not good for business. It's not good for business. It's okay, you know, it's okay. What a guy did tell me about it is though if you where it might be good for business only is, you know, kind of just for lunch with a guy Steve this this kind of business Mentor mine told me this a guy can fake his way Steve through a one-hour lunch. Okay, he can make up shit he can fly in bullshit and then see here this whole thing and then you walk away going on on this guy's impressive. You said the only thing about golf is a guy can't fake it for 4 and 1/2 hours. You know, eventually you'll kind of learn the real side of somewhat, you know, right? Yeah, if you're an asshole, then you're not it's not a good plan. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, you're good. It's going to come out somewhere. Right? It's like, you know your bounced around with the game that you play a few holes. Got this guy's nice. Yeah, maybe you know, maybe he's a good guy which again business with and then, you know, it'll hit one out of bounds on the 5th only goes dead. You'll who who better bit of a rager there? Maybe he's not the guy or or you know, you can he ends up talking about a bunch of things where you going to discuss kind of scary actually write know if you're if you're a serial killer or a jerk or you know, obviously nothing's going to work really if you maybe maybe the lunch thing, you know, you should stick to that if you're a Serial Mom if your personality disorders, but if you're a reasonable person who is decent company, then I still stand by my statement that day on the golf course is great for forging In connections and closing deals. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I wish it was agreed to disagree. Yeah. Anyway, the guy lost guy played with in when I was in a business world when he piped his caddy in The Shins with his sandwich. Well, this guy's a little crazy speaking of injuries talk a little bit about the Stanley Cup final game and Tampa Bay Captain Steven Stamkos made his triumphant return he scored in his first shot on net and then that was it was his first game in seven months Stamkos comes back school hours. And that was it. He was done for the night. He's been out since February 25th yet core muscle surgery a lower-body injury made the score to nothing and the Lightning Bolt Beat Dallas 5 2 in game three, and so we don't know exactly what his problem is. We don't know if he re-injured himself might happened if that's the case. You might have heard himself jumping in dog. Air in celebration behind the net. Oh my God. What a shot out. If he's saw the snapshot coming down the right wing just wires one upstairs just it looks almost impossible that he gets Chuck up that quickly and put it in such a perfect place. So terrific but behind the net he jumps in the air just as someone's coming in to hug him maybe something awkward happened there didn't play again, or maybe he was right. Maybe he was playing with the injury still and on that topic. I thought it might be fun to go through some of the great memories you've had watching great players with you know, having forging these great stories and playing through injury cuz there's been a bunch of those types of stories throughout time. I think right away of Kirk Gibson, for example back in the 1988 World Series coming off the bench on one leg could barely walk steps up hits a game-winning home run against the Oakland Athletics and there's that famous scene name. Should have limping around the base paths pumping his fist and lost like that. And he popped to mind for you. There is there is by and what a bad break in Stamkos Thursday. We're not sure he's Beyond this he might play in game 4, but he's undecided at this point. We just cuz of covid-19. Right has gone from one team to the next had, you know humble enough that he took assistant jobs when maybe should have been a head coach. Unfortunately if they don't win off of Dallas doesn't come back and win the Stanley Cup, it becomes a becomes a non-story. He still has the interim label at this stage. So I hope for him. He's done enough to impress Jim Nill the GM there and the organization that they bring him back as a head coach cuz clearly he can do it. You know, it wasn't like he came in at the start of the playoffs. He came in, you know after Jim Montgomery got fired mid-season and the Stars, you know, they they entered the playoffs as one of the top four in the conference and so they got to avoid that whole play anything. So they're they're good in the regular season under this guy and they're very good in these place. So I think he's earned an opportunity to try and be the head coach and and he hasn't heard it just based on this year, like what a great tale of resilience for sure. Yeah. If it doesn't end up there he'll probably get a gig again, you know wage. I don't know. How old the guy is is he is he 60 6465 something like that. Yeah getting up there. But anyway, that's one of the great stories, you know of coming back from you know from this whole long freaking list of the you know, the this guy giving a year after year after year as a coach but my two favorites Stevie from coming back from injury being a golfer or was I got a practice what I just said, you're an Enthusiast you a spectator. Yeah, Rocco mediate and not Tiger Woods Thai at the end of the US Open one year. Is that what it was? Yep? Yeah and Torrey Pines and everyone else was injured here, you know, and the playoffs in the US Open is 18 holes the next day. It's not sudden death and he broke a bone. He was playing with a with a lake some. I don't know if you have the story in front of your tibia or something cracked if he or something like that and went on to win broken leg torn ACL. Yeah, incredible, you know, as if the guy wasn't incredible enough, so that was always cuz cuz when I first heard it, I thought okay now don't don't don't don't see doesn't have a broken bone. You couldn't play golf with any kind of broken bolt. Okay, you can't you can't like a Joe Theismann broken. It's a stress fracture, right? But but just not the same, it's still it's still bearing some weight on like the Joe Theismann snap into like a twig. So we had stress fractures in a leg and knee that featured a torn ligament. Yeah, but you'll get the goddess of sort of sport. I guess most sports are but golf sort of thing. Like any injury Steve you're down. Okay, cuz you're using everything right feed hands back twisting neck and all that stuff off. That was one of the best. That's the one of the best one that when it did come out that factually the guy did did have that the other one though. My all-time favorite is Saku Koivu coming from the stomach cancer still still is I remember weeping like a child. I've told this story before weeping like a child when when he came back from that and stepped on the ice and the boss believable Ovation that he got and the outpouring of love and stuff. Like that was was unbelievable. I was this is unreal. This is unreal, you know, young guy came back from that and the other odd one that's more of a comeback story. Like, you know, the the same strategy we saw with Oskar Lindblom this year or Bobby Ryan, right? They've they've overcome the adversity a more thinking of like actually playing through something right and like Bobby bond for Old-Timers right back in the sixties, like he had a broken leg and he scored the Stanley cup-winning goal. You're crazy crazy. Yeah, right. I forgot about that the other one that's close to, you know, a little closer to home for me and close to the heart is is people overcoming is overcoming addiction and and and not letting them take them take it not letting it take them down is you know, I've you know, someone asked me the other day they you know, how how did you get over the you know, how did you do? And and how did you overcome, you know the addiction thing and I gotta be I gotta be honest cuz I bought a couple of couple of friends of mine that I'd known for years died and they died on the same day last Monday and they were in the throes of active years, you know and well, excuse me. Obviously, they you know, they they battled their whole life. I know their history. I knew them well and just couldn't overcome it off. And someone said well, how did you do it, you know and I really I really believe this Steve that the addiction thing is so Insidious is so difficult, you know to get through and overcome that I really believe most of it is luck. Most of it is, you know, you can do all you want. There's so many people who try and try and try and try and and it's not uncommon to hear the story. I just told you about about the two friends of mine. So so we're near that. Yeah. Yeah. I was terrible terrible young fifty-three years old. So when when people do a lot of a lot of it is luck, you know that you know, how how I got through it. I I don't know just I'm a lucky guy off in some of it is endurance, you know, and so when I hear those stories of athletes, I'm you know, I think they're blessed with with the good fortune that they were able to overcome it, but not all off. Is luck and and some of those stories are Kenny. Danica was a longtime friend of mine. Who was who who battled it as a whole life. He was one of the first guys to go into the NHS treatment program when they started it and he overcame it and finished and had a great career. You know, right Jennifer Capriati was the other one who was just so good cuz I've read a bunch on this stuff and she overcame I think a heroin addiction and went on to win a major after that. So those are good ones those are good ones, but for sure those are great overcoming adversity stories for sure. I liked your Tiger Woods story about, you know, playing through pain and and succeeding I had that on my list. I also had Kirk Gibson as mentioned above are of a different kind of one where he lost his dad that same day and then had one of the games of his life that night see that playing with physical pain for per se but playing, you know through age, Until pain there was one with Byron Leftwich. He used he said he was Jacksonville's quarterback, but when he was in college with Marshall and that's the same University that you know, we are Marshall the plane crash that killed the entire team, but the same same program, but he laid there obviously a lot later after that. He actually to be carried. So on like a 2-minute drill the Russian downfield left, which is out there on on one leg. He basically broke his tibia and a game against Akron this is back in two thousand two thousand and so as as they're charging down field, you know, it goes back to pass throws it about 30 40 yards downfield and now they're at a time out. So they obviously have to run up to the line of scrimmage his offensive lineman had to carry left which their quarterback all the way up field so that he could snap the ball and just an amazing story though to watch something like that. And the last one Steve Yzerman wage He was early 2000s might have been his last Stanley Cup victory where he's out there and he's absolutely again on one leg. The guys wage earners talked about this guy saying that this guy's brain must be wired differently because his pain tolerance was through the roof. He played the entire 02 playoffs. Led the red Red Wings to a cupcake on only one good leg. So wow Stephen extent of Steven Stamkos, you know in a game three in the Stanley Cup Final whether he's in that league, but it was certainly an impressive performance by Stamkos just to get back in the lineup, you know, and and the emotional lift that would give his teammates, you know, he's been out since February since before Covetous, it's his back for the first time in game three of the Stanley Cup Final so I was pretty cool that he's able to score a goal and in that game. And he probably wasn't 100% Right? Cuz the only allowed a few few minutes in that game. And so that becomes heroic, you know that he even said okay. I'm going to lace them up. Right? We got the cup on the line here Thor to Stevie that I think were next to Impossible that they came back is the Canadian Olympian silken laumann wage. I think yeah, I think she destroyed her leg and she was a whatever, you know, she'll not kayaker a rower rower. That's right and I get what you whether she was a woman rowing or for whatever it was or but but she destroyed her leg and and came back to row. You can look that up a rate just come back and it was during training at the Olympics one of the odds on favorites to capture a gold medal that year and her boat was involved. Within a collision with the boat of a German team a men's team. It wasn't like a women's team trying to take her out Tonya Harding style but was just a during training and serious injuries to her leg in her words. I looked at the light for a few seconds and knew it was serious when my muscle was hanging at my ankle and I could see the phone. So I guess it was leading up Olympics not at the Olympics my apologies, but she had to be in the hospital for three weeks five operations and back on the water training by late June. She won a bronze medal and was named Canadian of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I remember seeing the picture. I remember that too and her leg was absolutely mangled. Yuck. Good big comeback. And then of course my old buddy Jimmy nelford, right? He was in a water skiing actually was water skiing in Phoenix and the and the he fell the guy turned around to come pick him up and and and mistakenly hit the throttle at Full Tilt and ran over him. And and of course it the prop went right up the side of his body and and almost took his arm off and he was going to die from it eggs and at the least cuz I know the story cuz we when we did that show and I know Jimmy well, they were going to have to take his arm and his mother said no. Well, you might as well kill him cuz he's a golfer. Anyway, he came back from that to compete a little bit but was there to tell the story and he ended up doing a lot of work with post-traumatic stress guys particularly coming back from the war from the Vietnam War because of what he went through. Apparently it was very, you know, and and the aftermath of what he did and the the off months and months and months of not just physical rehab but but mental rehab that this guy had to go through to get over it the fear of the scare the apps nightmares the sweats if you ever hear of birth It's just like oh my God, you know and then he came came through that survived and then went on to help a bunch of other guys with with post-traumatic stress and his arms working fine, right they may be not as well as it did. Yep. Yep. Yep going to say that's in bad doctoring again. Sounds like the LA Chargers Doctor Who's puncturing lungs while trying to give shots for pain in ribs? Well, it was I don't know about it was kind of the doctors who saved his life in his arm in this thing. And anyway, you know, he went back to playing golf with his mom his mom's the one who wanted to save the arm the doctors you were saying we're going to you know lose it well, but it was just you know, it was such a high-risk thing. It was such a high-risk thing, you know off and then need, you know, somehow survived that they're going to play golf and teach become a commentator and stuff like that. So that was one of the the feel-good stories of something that could have been wage. Terribly terribly wrong and on the Oklahoma. So I take that back then cuz obviously they were looking at for saving the life first and foremost and didn't want to you know, a risky surgery would cost him his life. I understand that Now cape my bed might even edited that out who knows some good stories there some good stories there but, you know playing through pain and sports and also some comeback stories thoughts. Well, Robert Kraft, the New England Patriots owner is like he's made a comeback of sorts. He was he was of course in that massage parlor sucks candle down in Florida. So we'll get you an update on that when we return after these words. There's still some wild out there, but you have to get out there and look for it and to look for it. You need something. That's just as wild as the child Jim K forward is pleased to announce the return of the Ford Bronco reserved today at 4. See a choose Jim Carrey as your dealership. We'd love that then this spring get ready for the Broncos to age. Ruling in the Ford Bronco built wild reserve yours today at 4. C A. How long have you been with your insurance company? What's in your policy? Who do you talk to when you have questions? I'm Josh from all Insurance Cheerio. Send me a text and let me handle it for you. 613-860-6008 all Insurance Ontario your modern Boutique broker. Have you heard about Piko? 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So Florida prosecutors have dropped the misdemeanor charge against Patriots owner Robert Kraft that after courts blocked their use of video that police say clearly showed him paying for massage parlor sex. So the charge was dropped he's free to go. He's free and clear and I guess the gist of it is Jimmy that the judging that planting video cameras in private spaces is an extreme measure that should only be used when absolutely necessary as in more serious crimes like, you know, drug deals or whatever it is and that paying for sex isn't a serious enough crime to take away, you know, Liberty Freedom right to privacy all of that stuff. So that's where George stands with Robert Kraft. He's good to go now. He did say, I'm really really sorry while pleading not guilty which I found interesting but he's he's clear of this whole thing. Yeah. Yep. Not good for the relationship Steve not good for the marriage for sure. You know, you thought golf put a little stress on a marriage Stevie. Okay where the wife gets really terrible. I never bought into this you spending three times a week four hours on a golf course. It's brutal. You know, it's not fair. Well, how about I spent the afternoon at a massage parlor honey? Okay with that instead of going golfing. I thought I'd I thought I would do that just cuz it doesn't take much time honey. I'm about seven minutes in and out. 7 minutes now my research which I've not really conducted indicates that more marriages. It's been found that more marriages survive this kind of thing when the male is a billionaire a non billionaire trying to pull this off. It's funny. It's weird. It's like an anomaly off the non billionaire his marriage tends to break up way more often than the billionaires marriage funny thing. Yes, believe me. Steve economics says have saved a lot of divorces. All right, we should take our leave any final thoughts today. Let's go to the charts TV. Let me see what I got here. Let's see. Well, I can tell you that yesterday on the show. I inferred that off and was studying infer I said it outright that there's some consideration. This is being a weekday podcast that maybe we go to a weekly once a week type podcast and the reaction wage Swift and massive there was one tweet four and one tweet against oh, yeah fifty-fifty. Yeah and maybe thought it'd be a little more reaction than that. Anyway, Kevin writes. I always enjoy listening to the swp with Steve and Jimmy probably a good idea to maybe look at one or two episodes a week instead. And by the way, this gets me everytime keep up the great work Lads and it's a picture of Kevin Costner in Field of Dreams going. Hey, Dad, what are the catch? So you were saying yesterday that I was a jerk for lumping up a little bit at that scene and Field of Dreams. And then the other one is basically full on scolding of me from Pierre who's pretty much just you know raging at where to go got it here somewhere. I'll tell you what, you look that up Steve. I'll tell you my final thought my friend. Okay, you and I talked Netflix all the time because that's not everyone's looking at these days and we always thought that's not a bad idea. Give our opinion on a bunch of shows and mine are a hundred percent good. Yeah, whenever I recommend to show Steve I've never had I've never had one person. Get back to me going bad pick their Jimmy. Okay, I'm really good at it. You know Steve critiquing shows on Netflix. You not so much money. You're not so much. Okay, you had a bad run there and then you'll finally hit me with the Hollywood movie. Okay, the Hollywood movie whatever it was Brad Pitt and this is your ex ladies and gentlemen, the Hollywood movie an oscar-nominated Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, right? And you're the guy who got me on to that. I said finally a good pic, so We're off and rolling. I'm going you know, Stevie finally is getting it on this stuff. And then you hit me yesterday Steve with ratchet. Okay about Nurse ratchet who we all remember from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. You tell me is a great story. This goes back to when she started being a nurse and she's insane and it's crazy how mental she is blah blah blah blah blah blah. So I tuned in last night's TV you highly recommended that show there couldn't be a worse Show on Netflix right now than that thing. Stevie it's awful. It's awful. Nice agree. It's so bad. It's so bad Steve. Okay, so let it let some other people get it was predictable. It was it was hokey. It was stupid. It was just a waste of freak'n time now waste of freak'n time while the world would be pretty boring. If we all have the same tastes in entertainment. I've got Pierre's tweet here. Yes, and he was the one that is not a fan of the idea of going to a weekly podcast. So here I took one love the podcast to I love you and jungle three weekly podcast changing to a weekly podcast F. No. Delete that thought. Yeah, and then number for no time to promote shows with tweets. Are you effing kidding me a tweet takes 15 seconds. I'll look at your Tweeter feed and there's like a half an egg. Tweets about schitt's Creek that were 202 when they were making TV history, but okay and then priority Steve priority stop being so damn lazy, but seriously use a great 2020 was a f and terrible year for me on so many levels and yet listening to you to growing out always puts a smile on my face and sometimes even makes me laugh keep it up. I have a sign off my computer screen to read shut up Focus work repeat. It works. I get so much stuff done. Now. Try it your podcast a blow up with a little elbow grease godspeed my friends that is from Volpe are who's implying that I'm not working hard enough. I was right. He's right in the UK to give it a little more off right now, but thank you for the kind thoughts. Anyway, that was mixed in with the nonsense. 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"Nobody Knows Anything", Episode 11

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"Nobody Knows Anything", Episode 11

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He directed this episode and he was our up PM, so he was our unit production manager. So this was a big deal when he got the direct episode and I think he did an amazing amazing job. Except for there's one shot always confuses me, which is the overhead piano shot and sort of like what why did we did? Did we really need that shot? I wonder if we needed that shot yet. Whereas Carmelo's open house. Yeah, previously on the Sopranos on episode ten hit is a hit Christopher. polly Posey pull off a once in a Lifetime score when they rob and kill Colombian drug, dealer Adrian Best. Me Decides to get into the music business as a produce with Christopher as the financial backer for the band visiting day, however, the person introducing them to the business. Massive genius, as has other motives that involve Heche and a long-term a long overdue debt. Episode Eleven Recap nobody knows nothing. Nobody knows nothing. You're just changed it sorry David Chase you're gonNA. Kill me! Sorry, Franken's really nobody knows nothing. Despite mounting evidence, Tony is reluctant to believe occasion when he tells him. That big pussy is an FBI informant. MOCK IAN humiliated after getting arrested at the brothel and living under the crushing weight of gambling debts, commit suicide by drug jumping off a bridge. Jimmy is caught up in an FBI raided and is back on the street very quickly. Tony believes him to be the informant. Clearing big pussy at least in his mind, so comes as a shock when pussy goes. Missing Livia is furious at Tony Salter home while she's complaining junior decides. It's time to make his move and Mikey. Has To hire two hit to take Tony out this. Particular episode started off so playful, and then like Bam tolley. Serious right in you know like I was who is a character. Mop Anglo. Dude. The doctor. At the ruffle and the MA and they're like. Big Pussy was having sex at the whorehouse. Has a heart attack, right or no? No, no, I mean. No was a heart attack. What are we talking about? Composes back out. I was having a heart attack when I saw Mr Dr Blocking mop, mop and glow. Sopranos by the way Classic Sopranos Classic like. Was He joppy. Okay. The from from. The Brothel Yup. Tom Serie GOES IN HEAVEN. And then Markes Ian McKenzie and am I saying that correctly McCain McKay's convent I call invent I. Never related to his last name. Let's call John. Baird because guests that ask. Rates. He's so good. I mean one of the great isn't that must have been tough kill for David because he is a fantastic fantastic actor. Yeah, that. He was at that whorehouse. He came out in that first scene I was he there? I think he I think he shows up in the end where you see him in the back. And something's brewing I think in my mind something's brewing because you know as we get into the show. We don't know if his ploy to snitch on Pussy is to. Relieve himself of his debts, or if it's actually because he wants to protect Tony because I do think he loves Tony. I think he told you see that when he's trying to relate and he's trying to. Why are you so mean to me I'm I'm jumping ahead now, but there's that conversation that he has to Tony with like you know. Yeah, he's he's. He wants to connect with him and he doesn't feel respected in any way. So then they jump to that card game four days later, which is kind of funny. that. They did a time lapse. For me. What stood out right there? The feds raided it. And, it was I. Guess Pussy Jimmy were the ones who. who both got arrested right but pussy ran. Pussy ran. Junior says we don't run. It's embarrassing. Love that line, but the fast let's. What women were the fact that pussy ran when he just hurt his back. Gives you a little more uncertainty is his back really hurt. Is that is all part of the you know them beauty of the episode because he was running, yeah. I know really tell when he's running. If his back is bothering him, you just can't tell. The isn't motherfucker Camporese. While he's overweight, so you don't know if it's way. Too and it's funny the way the two men Jimmy and Pussy they both relate I mean the both re act the feds, totally different one runs, and the other one's an asshole. So which is the one you think that which I feel like? It was giving you like a little clue. Then because a person who's an asshole feels I mean now knowing that he was. The rat didn't have to run. You know Jimmy didn't have to run. Because if these actually working with the feds, he acted. Yeah, he's protected. He can act. He can act the you know, so. We don't know we still don't really know. WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA! Know have real answers probably till season two I, would say about the whole situation, but. I found. There was one thing that was really interesting by the way. When Jimmy Altieri gets out. WHO's Joe Bottle Luke? Who is our prop guy on the show I told you before. Which explains why his acting is a little different from everybody else's acting. He's a little more is a little more stiff, but they loved him, and they gave him a part on the show and he alleged. Loves stories like that. Though you know, it was cool, he was. that. He was on it, but he He makes a comment. At the in in Tony's laundry room. He says I told them that I that that place. That thing was there when I rented the place. meeting that he rents the being. To being his Jimmy, Altieri. No, they weren't the being so when they were doing the card games that we were talking about they were, were they? They were they weren't at the bank. That's what I thought too, and that is little research they. Random like bar that they have in the back house. Yeah, WHAT GAIL WAIT! Until everybody comes down on the cast member from the Sopranos for not having her facts straight. No I love it. No I don't know because maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong. Maybe what I read was wrong, but that's what they were saying that they were at some other bar. Total sense because I was thoroughly confused, and I went back, and I looked, and I thought this looks just like the I'm totally confused, but I need. I would need to go back and look again. Yeah, anyways, okay, so let's go. Let's go back about a where we're at the bank. Every yeah, Vinnie gets out. He gets I'm calling him. Vinnie of course pussycats out. He's he's Fardon. They're still making fun of him. The guys out of breath Lifton is Dick to take a leak. I like that line as cute. The guys ask. Dick. But they're all busting balls, but do they realize that that time that he puts you out really quickly. Do they realize that or are they dislike? This episode is over a period time. I believe he gets out pretty quickly, but then we end, we We cut from that. To McKay's Ian am I right stocks yet? The dogs right He, they meet at the docks and he tells him on the Vinnie's rat. Yes yeah they're. They're some on area. They're not VINNIE's arap pussies. Iraq, he's wired for sound. Yes, yes, pussies wired for sound I. Let me you question Chris. Is Your Pussy wired for sound because I'm curious? Why has to be? Musicians of course this wire. Something's happening in the scene that if anyone picked up on it I can be totally wrong, but it drove me crazy and I've watched it several times. I don't know if anyone here's one of their car doors chiming through the entire scene and how they didn't fix that in Agr, which is how we fix sound after the fact. Is Mind blowing to me, so that car is chiming the whole time and I remember thinking to myself on a million scenes where my car door has been chiming, and they get after me and they say we have to Redo it. You left your car or we told you one hundred times and I'm like in Buck you you fucking don't talk to me like that. And then they're right and I'm thinking in my head. It's real life. The car door chime would leave the frigate part like that well now it was. Your it at all, Oh, I drove me crazy. And so that totally glad. When Vin Marquette is complaining to Tony that he's not nice to him right? You others that part which which is is sad but when Tony Explains to him why? VINNIE might run. In why he would speak to the feds? He talks to him about this big heroin bust that happened in Vegas, oh. I got my Las Vegas Shirt. Wait win. Who say that again? Because the feds have the FEDS HAVE INFO ON POLICY? Because pussies overworking himself because he has to put his kids through school, so he's involved in drugs now I don't know if you know this, but in the mafia world being involved in drugs, I don't know about now, but I know when I was young. And probably even earlier into the fifties and sixties like you don't fuck with drugs, you don't. That's not part. The the mobsters don't like that that that's necessarily shit. That's the white trash it. It's not classy enough for these murderers right. So he also says to to Tony. Who is this? Guy Pussy a man who loves his family above all else. And that's that hits Tony that's gotta hit Tony Because a Tony Tony is a man who loves his family above all else. So what would I do in that situation? He must be thinking like what would I do? Which family he loves his family above all else. The question is which family. The one you took the Olmeta with or your family of children that rely upon you for protection and support and guidance you know. So saying? that it was really great. I mean interesting to see like Tony was trying to like you saw him trying to compute this and take it in and make it make sense. And, that you know the seam between Van Tony and he was assigned. Look, this makes sense because XYZ and Tony was really trying to take it, and he's like no I love that man. Would yeah, there was some intense acting in Zastava for for Tony he really see his. You see the moments that people talk about from behind the scenes onset when people are like so, what was Tony like onset and He was in those moments. That's an animal cage. He's just waiting to come out of his cage to play those scenes so sometimes he's coming out hot and heavy and other times. You know you always wonder. I always wondered what the choices we're GONNA. Be So it's always always exciting. Aida was like that too okay. So where are we at the soprano open? House, which I didn't understand why she was having a party at the open house, and this is when he's Tony's asking pussy to help remove the piano. which I thought was a test. He was testing his back. Of course, it was a test. I nobody told him do. What nobody had told him his back wasn't okay at. Right I don't think he had that conversation with Paul. He has the conversation with Paulie Act that party. Paulie tells him I sent him to the Jonas Salk of backs right so Tony Soprano's open house. Carmella is getting a mad. That livy is not showing up. Yeah right yeah. Yeah. She's like he's like. Be Nice. You're nice or whatever he says cheese and then Paulie. Tells Tony. That It's bullshit that he went to the doctor. It's not working ou- or did the test that they don't know what's wrong and bacillum next obvious step. Let's go to the psychiatrist to ask her if there could be some psychological reason why ones back would hurt. I know that for me in my life. Carrying a lot on my back. As, a metaphor definitely messes with the constitution of my actual back as you know. Stress Two stress. Melfi ways. Yeah! and I have major major back problems so I get it, but I think the thing that hits him. The most is the minute. She says the word secrets. I know him the shot. Hit Him in the Gut, but translates to guilt and carrying a heavy load and I think. That for him. It goes two ways. He is living a life of secrets carrying a heavy load, but his manifests in panic attacks. You're seeing all his friends sort of going through similar They all have similar problems. They're all nervous about their lives and the uncertainty of their lives, and the nothingness in the regular. The the fear, and all of these things, and when when the boys talk about it. Later. You hear it where they all kind of identify. It's a quiet moment. That's a few episodes later. Tight. That's that's the Mafia said. There's nothing that it's sounds like you're a doctor. Would you get that paycheck every? Every week every month or whatever you know, it's like what I do. What I do, you never know when you're going to get paid exactly same with my husband Emmy. Project Project Base, pay so. They have to kill people. We have to perform or do. You might have to kill people. Paid sometimes. Only anyway. Anyway. I think he's a funny scene. In that scene? When Tony asked for like he really wants her to weigh in and she's like. She's like last time I weighed in hugh yelled and curse stat me I don't know if I feel safe and she's really reluctant to weigh in again he's. He wandered so bad that he's like. No, no, I'm fine. Just let me know what you think. And that's when she says the secret thing up which is I jumped ahead a little bit, and I can't believe how he goes after her later, but I'm GONNA ZIP DOT COM right now. The whorehouse now go back. We go from Melfi to to the whorehouse so A market bias is a quiet scene between the two of them This was interesting to me. There was a moment where. where she says that the the Madam. She opens that seem by saying I don't. What did she say I don't I don't I! Don't believe. I don't see how it could be true or I don't believe any of this. She opens that seem with that. She nearly the Madam. She's. Choosing to she walks between them, so the scene opens with her line. ACID, dot pussy van is on the couch Tony standing up and she walked through the scene. Says I don't see how any of this could be true I. Don't know exactly what her line is, but it's something along those lines, and then you jump cut to her later on after he's committed suicide and he's in. Tony's trying to get information out of her. Asking her what she knows and she. Does she talks about it as though she had never mentioned that line. And I felt like that might have been. A glitch might have been leftover, but I can't imagine that the show would ever do such a thing because they so they were so meticulous, but then again it let it left the beauty the ambiguity. Oh my God forgive really. I'm doing good to Yeah, the ambiguity of what like I was sort of like what is she? Like she's changing her story. Slightly was just showing also the relationship between Vin and that Madam and he really I is at the scene where he really shows his connection to her. He's talking to Tony. Tony's asking for the three to ripe. He wants proof. He wants calms. This is someone who was in his inner circle. Slash. Family has other family and you know he needs to see key. He doesn't WANNA. Be Ambiguous about this, yeah! Tony goes off on Van 'cause Venice, asking him like for the he's saying. I'm complaining about you Tony, says he says. Sorry I don't have time to suck your Dick. Chris Funny You should say that I into a way darker place with the scene. Did. I did I. This seems struck me in a few ways. If we're going to get into the relate aspects first of all, he says to him. You're a degenerate gambler with a badge and then Vin says to him. You have the ability to sum up a man in one sentence, and my point was This is not my relate. Sentence or thought this was more about how you can't sum up. A man in one sentence and a man is not just a degenerate gambler like my grandfather was a degenerate gambler, and that was all I ever knew about him growing up. But I'm sure he was many more things that made him the monster that supposedly he was within my family's world. again a wife beater a cheater. All of these things and then then McCain. Tells him the story. That's really profound, and it's his moment on the show where he explains to him. Why he would hide under a bed. In his life, and why he was scared and I dunno, if I ever told you story about me when I was little with my parents having an enormous fight when I was little. and. There was a gun I will say that there was definitely a gun and a crazy mom and. I know where you're going with this. And people are going to be mortified by the story, but you know what it's. The Truth and my mom actually writes about it in one of her plays. So I have no problem telling the story because all of our stories are kind of up for grabs, but there was a gun and she grabbed it. She said I'm fucking shoot you because he was cheating on her for a moment in time, he wasn't talking. She was talking to your father. She was talking to my dad. She was screaming I'm GonNa Shoot You with this conversion was trying to swallow bunch. tylenol 's which that wasn't gonNA work. And then, and then she saw the gun, so she newer. His gun was that he headed hidden. She grabbed it now. I'm a little girl standing at the very end of the hallway, and I'm watching this. Go down and I'm like she's GonNa Shoot, my dad. I loved my dad I. Love My mom, too, because she's going to shoot my dad. So the minute he got the gun away from her, and he put it down I snuck in grabs. A gun went into my closet. And this is when we moved into Manhattan into Aretha Franklin's old house, which is, this is the way you love respite. This is a little respite from the drama of the story. It was a really Franklin's Melby this story before you totally left that part out. That was read the Franklin my God okay, go ahead. Yeah, so. We bought, she was out of there wasn't like Jews like. Hey, do you guys want to read my house from me while I'm out of town Airbnb? No, it wasn't like that. So I didn't have my nanny or my grandmother, we weren't used to living in Manhattan. I always lived in Queens so when we went into Manhattan during that Manhattan Time My parents were tearing each other to shreds, and what this meant for my mother, having witnessed her own mother, getting the ship out of her by her husband and him cheating like this meant a lot to her, but as an eight year old child, which was me seven year old child I didn't know what was going on I didn't know any of these things again. Nothing is black and white. There's a million colors to how we all arrive at the place that we're at where we're. They're hurting people so. I take that gun I? Go into the closet, and because my nanny wasn't there because it was the the New York House, and because my grandmother wasn't there, I was home alone. And both my parents left forgetting that there wasn't a nanny, and they were all with their drama and everything that was going on. They had no idea where I was I woke up the next morning with the gun. Like this sleeping. On My. Own tiny little. Mommy this story. This is only the second time I've heard this, but I still have the same action for you and I can't believe that you turned out the way you did having sure. You, totally normal a Qassam FARC far and nowhere mall. You should be a fucking mental hospital now because you know what my my because you know why. I'm not in a mental hospital, because nothing is black and white, and because there is so much uncertainty and I didn't know a lot, but I was lucky enough to have two parents that took responsibility for every God. They did that was damaging because they had never been their age with a seven year old child being cheated on for the first time like my mother had never been in that situation, my father had never been in that situation. We make shitty choices in life. Fuck yet. We do it a lot, but it's how you walk through it and how you come out of it and. And how you you you change and how you learn from it and they did you know what again so so I put look I mean the damage is done when your child for sure, because your subconscious is completely tampered with, and there's nothing you can really do to unravel that without years of therapy, which you know I of course. I went three years of therapy I mean. You're I mean. You're imitator for me. If someone takes that, you said the key. Your parents took the accountability the responsibility. It doesn't matter. It's almost like it doesn't. You can get through it whatever it is as an adult, maybe not a child, but. You're an adult when they took accountability for so for that I was older. I was much older, but I will say that when I had my own children. I had to revisit. All of the ideas of forgiveness that I once had that I put away. Because now I didn't feel as forgiving because now. I'm with two little children with two little hand, and just there I. I will start to cry. You know I will with older vulnerability, and the thought of ever fucking leaving one of them, or forgetting about one of them or anything like that. You know scaring them with a fight. Arguing with a man in front of them, that would scare them in such a way that they would not lose faith in the human interaction. All of these things like it it. It crushed my source. I really had to revisit. Even though I knew that nothing was black and white, and even though I knew she had made her mistakes and has to live with her all mistakes. My mom being my mom being that person in that situation, my dad included. There's a there's a there's an element of you have to forgive, but but. It's. I watched my mom now who I think of explained on here brilliant, brilliant mind and I only bring her up because of Livia, because we're relating to things and because her mother. She considered her mother to Bolivia to her. and I'll explain how I have before, but I'll mention it again because it's really relevant to this episode, but I always forgave my mother for everything because of the mother that she had. but does it make excusable? It does not especially when you look at. My son looks just like me. So, and he is just like meat like he's a little misguided and not focused. You know my daughter's more like shooter. She's just got it together. You know I am a wild card man, and so is he so trying to figure out how to parent him is? Really Interesting I. Know I know about Matt. Got The same. You and they're the city of the same name. Dave name. To Whelan's yet it's always a learning. It's always a learning process. This takes me to Carmelo walking into Green Grove. This! This scene is the scene that this is why I was leading into the whole mom narcissist the way mothers have power over their children, and she says to her you are bigger than life. Tony would rather die than see you get hurt and he says you don't. She says her. You don't know the power you have A. She's sticking up for Tony by the way harm like you love. She wants the relationship. She wants him to have a healthy relationship with his mother. She wants his mother to treat them. And she's just manipulating the hell if he had a different mother would have been a good chance that he might have. Might have even gotten out of the business. I mean my dad's whole family. They they stayed in the business Some of them did but. But my dad got out of that world. Because, he had a woman that was like. Forget it. You mess with this stuff you're out. Because of my father. I'm not marrying my father basically. But the whole bigger than life thing and she thought this scene was really This was heavier than regular. Livia scene yeah. It was like. She lashes out, and then she. Manipulates with tears and. Passive aggressive as and the victim. She always does that though she always does. I think I think that this in this one you feel the heaviness of never being able to get through to her in a different way than other episodes real and you feel the sadness. You feel LE`veon's own remorse. For not being able to break the chains off of herself. I felt satin. I felt that in her performance I could be crazy, but I felt that. because this is all faucet thinking about her. Everything was everything that Karm try. She went in there, trying to help trying to help Tony. Trying to help Livia and Livia was every little word that Karm said that could when she said the. Notion about like Oh. You have a companion in junior and she's a. were you talking about I'd rather. What does she say something about? She gets defensive thinking that her junior have a relationship and like you know. My husband was a saint, and she and Karm is just defeated. She is just constantly like there's no use. Okay, you know. That was the first of all Livia scenes. This was the one where I was like. You really felt like she was in She reminded me because all kids are all little. Kids grow up as narcissists. You know what I mean I totally agree. I? Mean Look. How can I get what I need now making to manipulate you, might you really? Master manipulators still my oh, my too, but yeah, really really feel her as an inconsolable child for the first time as opposed to I. Didn't I I know she was manipulating in this episode, but I felt her more as a inconsolable child than the master manipulator in this particular scene, and everything's about to change. This is a setup for twelve and thirteen where holy fuck? She's GonNa do she's going to mastermind? Her, entire. She's GonNa. Backtrack. She's GonNa. Do all kinds of? Things here, but anyhow with that character and the power mother has over child. It really is Immeasurable and priceless so you? We have to be so so so careful. How we treat our babies and I feel I mess up all day long. I feel like come a long ways messing up. I know and you know. My my boyfriend's rubbing my leg like hugh are honey. He's like it's okay. Though be fine, I promise. He's like it's all right. You're crazy. So then we go back to pussies house, and we're discussing I'm Tony Visits Pussy Right. He's talking about the college tuition and a good looking son, plus he has He is killed. You know what's what was interesting to me about. Pussy says to Tony. Something I don't have the exact quote, but he says I'm not gonNA. Let my son get fucked like like I. am like everybody wants. A difference for their son for their. You know, so. He's and he's telling Tony. That and Tony says boss. You know he's to basically. Kind of leaching out. To Tony like this is not what I. This is not what I wanted for myself, or nor my son, or you can also see the Kinda home. Pussy has compared to the kind of home that that Tony has you also see in this episode. The kind of home that Mikey has compared to the kind of home. The Tony has so you do see a lot of the class differences, and how much money and in what kind of earners they are so the fact that that that puts these running running heroin. You know that's a big deal. It's a big deal in that world. And then he's basically saying that things are happening Tony telling him. He's got options. Goes he says he was I. Got Things in Tony Goes what kinds of things he goes. Things and I'm like well. This doesn't fucking sum up the whole entire episode I don't know what does align a couplet of lines as a simple as that basically sums up one of the most. Amazing masterful shows in the world for an episode. That's that's the that's the episodes. We're things things are. Things. Okay back to the bottoming and Tony's telling polly. That puts. He's wearing a wire. That last look by the way at at the House with with with Pussy that last week he gives him as he walks away to make the coffee. You know the next scene This has to be dealt with now is that he gives him? He's all you know joking around with him and stuff the coffee. And now he's got that Tony Soprano look in. You're like fuck you, GonNa, do so boom! We're at the bottom. Being next bought a bang telling polly. That pussy is wearing a wire. This was last. Seen. Right and then Paul takes a long beat the quiet. and. He's like I'll do it. I'll do it. Why do you think he volunteered to do? Why do you think he wanted to do was trying to prove something? Tony like what was. What do you think that that was going on in his head their? Loyalty. This thing of ours and And you don't portray that. And he does, he doesn't have a family like he has his mom that he loves That's but he doesn't I think you know that a rat is. You don't have to ask me what a rat means on the Sopranos. You are a rat. You know what people you know by the way watching. This episode was very interesting for me that they needed to be one hundred percent. I need fucking proof I. Need proof the way he's. Driving that point home, they didn't want any fucking proof. I I. Sh-. We're not supposed to give spoilers. Mar, what? People. Tony wanted one hundred. He says I want one hundred and one hundred ten percent. Sure I don't WanNa see I wanna see the wire. He's always searching for concrete evidence basically. You don't want this made talking about relating. Not like I I'm well I'm not relating, but like wouldn't something so hurtful that someone so close to you. When you hear this information, we've all been in some degree of that. Of that? Betrayed Yeah we've all been there and I feel like you want. How many times have you heard people hiring private investigators other husband. They know that they're cheating their boyfriend or husband. I have a friend who did that. They needed I'm like he's cheating. You know cheating. They needed to see it to leave. They needed to see it in black and white is. To get out and that's how we are. I feel like as human beings. It's like it's it's hard while some of us. Well. This is a this is a point where he's just not gonna go for the uncertainty, he can't kill. A family member in that kind of uncertainty. But. This is what David Chase does and he's done it throughout. The whole entire series down to the very last scene of the last episode. And that's the beauty because you get to really You know that's art. Art Isn't arts never, GonNa give you the answers, but it's GonNa. Make you think I I would. Think about it for weeks that have dreams about it and everything. Yes, okay. Tony Learns that Livia is visited, is often visited by junior and he's telling the administrator that the house is sold. So funny scene. Sad he comes in there with such a sadness about him. I was I was also in. That seemed like I wonder what the what the what the prep was for this scene because he came in there with a with. The sadness. While for me. That seem was about I. Find I found it peculiar that she was. They were talking about Libya, and he was like she's not doing i. don't know what he said, but her comment was. Oh, she's doing great. She's exercising in the pool with all her friends. So just shows you that she's manipulating them. Constantly with this place is horrible. How dare you throw you place and the administrators saying? Oh, no doing water, aerobics or whatever I don't even know. It's further rejection of of your mother and again the relate for me. Yeah, as I've told you about with my own mom. Is You know her mother rejected her because she was so because she was just like Livia just like her and then my mother tried to be the opposite of that. So she tried to become a career woman sort of thing in an artist, so she also ended up rejecting everybody in the midst of doing that back. Kind of rejection leaves a kid always Hey, you know trying to find a way for that mom to pay attention. The truth is I never got she never fucking pay attention to landed up in the same industry she was and I was famous. You know. But, that's not true that no, no, no, that's not true. It's not true. It was way before that when I was twenty one and when she took responsibility for F- All the bullshit, but But I do relate to to that that that element of you know having to be self consumed otherwise. You feel like you're not. You feel like you're not breathing to degree its survival, it's it's total survival on their end. My mom wasn't a narcissist, but her mother. She considered her mom to be narcissist. We'll had narcissistic quality sent me we all do. anyways way we hold on once the one thing in that scene which took me out of I mean I kept on going back in to like what the what the scene was about. How large was that desk? She was like this. Why I love. As character to shoot me forget her middle tiny person. Does no, no, no, the desk was. He was up to here. Oh. My God I couldn't keep my eyes off the desk I was like. Shoes, that was that. was that a choice or was that just a happenstance? I don't know that's a little office Oh, and then he brings her. Mario Lonzo CDs He says is the cure for depression. and that sweet, and he's always trying to bring her things to capture her love and had her attention and nothing. Nothing seems to work. You know my mom will do that with her. Mother and nothing worked it, was she I'm disgusted. If it makes him worse gusted, she would just I can't stomach. These people like she talk just like Livia. It was amazing. I loved her. I mean. I loved her because she was a character. You don't even. Funny, but from my mother. It wasn't funny and it's. It's no coincidence and my mom now has dementia I think she's like I can't face the fact that I probably wasn't the best daughter and I wasn't the best mother and I'm like my the best you could. Can you drop the dementia? Let's move on mom. Let's anyways you buy. Your mom, but go ahead. I would like to, I would like to take a sponsor. Break Right. Chris I gotTA. Take a break. I want. So much pain right now, please. WanNa. Just, wanted to stop recording for five minutes so I can go. Sit with my thera gun. Crazy. I need to break up everything that's in my shoulders right now. 'cause I'm suffering from a terrible headache and I know that if I work on my traps with my with my faithful Tarragon, that I will not have a headache anymore and I can continue reporting, but right now I will stop I. Know I'm being intrusive and and I will. Put My gone away. You don't have much I love my Baragan. says. Yeah it's it's all about breaking up all of that stuff in here so that you could feel totally free. Oh. Again so I might take a little break. From recording just so good I can work on my neck and break up all the muscle tension with my my my hand held per customer device. Is that okay with you? Do that you do that? Okay? Thanks, thank you, thank you. Oh, and by the way they're also our sponsor case. No. My. Favorite sponsor. Okay I'll get back to work I. DO enjoy my proof panties now. Let me explain to you about these panties I am not on my right now I. Love what you say Panties. Panties I call them pancakes. Is that okay? Is it people call them something different. Am I like wait a time? Where where by the way would you? You're addicted to these things and I I'm new to this whole game and I'm like. Thinking it's going to be like uncomfortable, the softest most comfortable. I want to replace all my Andro with them got. 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It's a surprise they go to the Russian baths by the way Paulviollis is freaking car. But Horse in the Russian in the end spa whatever they're going to get fits whatever he's calling it. Weird was that scene. Yeah, whatever I can't say that I love it I love those bath houses so old timey I know he's. He's like he's like. Do you believe Pussy when he was saying? It's about as Dr. he can't do the hot water he can do. The steam I believed him. I'm might be naive Oh. I really believed him. When he laid it on thick in the end, and said because I fucking high blood pressure man that part. Like, I really a- I do, too. I did too because it starts at. That's the truth, but then he also tells Tony Soprano. That He. Was GonNA. Go home. Take a hot bath. I didn't even pick you know what you can take. A hot bath was high blood pressure, but you may not be able to actually be in a Schmidt. I don't know. Bought a big where Silvio tells Tony. What does Soviet Marquette? Newtonian pussy was wearing a wild side outside of the being Oh. Yes, this was a great scene well. Silvio's basically trying to convince Tony and. There's a reason that put his pussy is not. The informant at Marquette is a Gambler, a degenerate gambler Nieto's Pussy thirty thousand dollars right? Yeah, that's where he finds out. He's into into Pussy for thirty large I believed it once again. I think Tony wants to believe anything he can believe because of the. Uncertainty and the M ambiguity mutate. Mentions Gra volcano here. This is This was a good mention because they Salvatore Sammy. The Bull von Oh na. Yes I could be wrong about this. Don't quote me, but I'm just. GonNa take a swing at it, but I think he was one of the highest ranking. Members of the five families to ever break his Omerta to to talk to the feds. Now okay both Sammy, the bull and big pussy of the same name Salvatore. Both about the same. There were both running drugs. bravados biggest claim to fame was that enormous ecstasy ring. He was running and he made New Orleans. But he took down Gambino. That was his his under boss but I. don't really know I. Don't know the story about how the other families felt about the drug ring. Don't know a lot about it and I'm I will be learning more about it as we go along. Because now I've my interest has peaked and you know me. So then we go to the kitchen. which I like to talk about maddow being Sethi because I have a Sassy daughter. She's so she. Oh mine is. I mean I was even and meadow with the with the comments EPA Tony Rings a right back in nineteen, fifty four. No more sex talk. Simplicity that's what he wants. Yeah. I can dig it. I mean I can. Do you know something I'm the one I am with my mouth. I am the one parent who never have talk with my kids. Oh my God. Are you serious? Swear to God well. You don't need actually I. Take all the back you don't need to. Your daughter is like. She's the most innocent little girl. She knows everything about everything. She learned it in that filthy school. The inside of her locker sketched etched in big letter. Says Suck my Dick Harbor. So. I was like so you know a lot and she's like yeah. I know everything. Have to talk about it. Kate now you're down. She's allowed to watch. TV's that have themes of of sexual talk. To a degree. But he know Mr Liberals can't know anything yet now. Your guy he's. Eases, your Tony's yearning for an my next hurting me. Was that there? Is that third on Brandon is. Okay, but Tony's yearning for more innocent time, always always nine, hundred and fifty four. He deserted one to talk about sex. Everything has to be concrete innocent that whole. And then we all yearning for more innocent time. I am especially right now. I always am. Always I want I yearn for a more innocent time with an elevated consciousness. Interesting. We go to the bridge where Mark Azn Kells himself well. What surprised me in that episode? I don't know that stuck out to you, but he was in a rush. He's in the car. He's in traffic. Why are you in a rush to kill yourself? Is it have to be a certain type? Do you remember when he was like on that? I think it was on a bridge or Bridge obviously. But he was like in a rush in traffic and to pull over MKX. What is he doing and he gets out on no. Abstract painting another Sopranos abstract painting totally surprised me that choice by David, chase or whoever to make him be in the in a rush and traffic just to kill himself like wow. What a what a roller coaster right do you think? Maybe Tony had such disdain for him aside from the fact that he was? Someone who couldn't control himself Tony's very much in control in a lot of ways as much as it can be. Yeah, which is why the panic attacks bring him to a shrink, because he's like I need to be able to control this. This is too much for me. Do you think that he doesn't like him because he's disloyal to his own kind. To the forest. And Tony would never be disloyal maybe down on that yeah I never thought about that. Maybe he looks on him for being that type of rat, so then Tony gets the call about McKay's Ian. Suicide and basically they're saying that's our only shot to no pussy was really the rat or not, so they'll never know ambiguity. You've uncertainty, uncertainty and ambiguous way. And then there at the whorehouse and Tony the Madam are talking and Tony's trying to get information out of her. Yeah and she said earlier in the opening shot of the of now that the opening shop at that shop between Shampoo and she and. She and Vin and Tony. She says I don't I. Don't believe it to be true. And then she doesn't reveal anything else in that final scene, so she must know something anyhow. She, says who wouldn't WANNA sleep with their shrink the. Soga And but she did say he trusted you. Tony and You always knew always know where you stand. That's why that is why when she says that he always trusted you I feel that he did set up. The sting! You know what I mean. 'cause I feel I felt his interesting, and I was like he did it. He always trusted him and he set up the sting. You took away the one thing that he said meant a lot to him, so it's like Vesubio. yes, exactly like RDM. Suva's yes, and so he was sitting there in that world of guilt again. Not knowing any fucked up, he's making these choices and he did the wrong. You know he reacted. Made the wrong call once because well, we can get there in a second, but. So now we're at Green Grove. And she's a complete Mazzetti Ah in this in this scene and Livia cold junior in an emergency to come there because she needed somebody to cry to about the fact that he sold her house. That Tony Soprano sold her house, and she believed that he was going to be floored by this the way she was, and when he said well what the fuck else was, he supposed to do with it. He shielded heating. cosign her craziness, yeah, no, and she pivots big time and she switches gears like this, and and she just happens to mention in a very sidewinder circuitous. Well I suppose. They didn't WanNa meet at my house. All of the the Capitol is and stuff, and then she tells them. All of these MOMS have been moved into Green Grove Etcetera and of course of with us. Junior thinks that he's been. That, this is a ploy to. Take him down? And he's been left out of all this information. And later on you'll, you'll hear that conversation. Come up again by the end of the season. House that house sale for her meant so much and for her, it was, too. It convinced her to manipulate junior to react to Tony and that was. It was like it was the last Straw. She's had enough, and that's when she knew what she was doing. She knew that junior was gonna make. Make sense, he says he comes about Jonny sack. He comes in with his mohair suits in his shoe. Lift and junior goes Shula suits pleurisy. pleurisy. Funny. I like when he says. Something well he's you. She's talking juniors plotting against Tony. She said well maybe. We'll. She says Livia says it was. You were talking about like she's just. Oh, yeah, constantly dropping bombs, but then Oh my God I should've never said anything. She said something like I I. Guess I should've kept my mouth shut and be a minute of via mute, always the vicious. This is the Livia the I. Claudius references that come in now where she's, she is the grand grand manipulator. Yeah, and showed will become even more manipulative as she backtracks later on. She Goes I. Just don't like being put in the middle of things. Then, and then he flips out and goes. And he that's the first time you ever hear him. Not Be able to put a sentence together to simply blood all he all of these sort of choppy sentences, and she goes I. Don't like that kind of talk. And then it's Oh. What did I say say now? Just don't know if she's. A narcissist or she's just so I have so many people that I know like that for the East Coast. I. Don't know it's more of A. I don't know. There's been called splitting. That you can listen or read about some psychiatrists. Talk about it, but. She to me has traits of borderline disorder narcissism splitting. I'm she's. She is just a salad of crazy. All just to like I. Don't know what the end game. The end game is is just other people's misery. Really it's not even like it's going to feed her in any. In any capacity so. While she just feels abandoned abandoned and she's just reacting and. She hasn't abandoned in any well. No, no, he's just a constant like a I mean I would love to get into her I. Wonder with the Prequel if they're going to get into her at all without. God. I would love it if they got Leyla Robbins to play her. Leyla Robbins, killed it on the Sopranos. God was fantastic. Playing her. So then we're back at the soprano kitchenware where Jimmy shows up at the dinner. That's a great scene to. Yeah. It's it's it's all right. It's a quickie. It's it's it informational scene you. You see that there's a possibility that he's a rat. A possibility for me. It was done when they were in the basement, talking about and he. You just didn't play it cool. He didn't play cool the way he was like hammering Tony. Yet but you all that stuff he saying could. It's you know you don't. It's still still ambiguous. You still don't know we still don't know. I don't know. We still. He's the. I don't remember any of this from twenty years ago so right now either he is. So then we go to body bobbing. Tony Salt Tell Silvio. It's Jimmy When he flips out on, he full lips, the fuck out on Paulie for being late. That's an intense scene. That's one of those moments where where you have. Jim Gandolfini like an animal in a cage. being on unleashed onto Tony Serie going that seem for Tony. I love the way he looks at his hand down on his arm like that when he's touching him. You know 'cause Paulie. SIROCCO came from that world one hundred percent. He says may your mother die of cancer of the is is? These things. But by wow, does cancer. The is must be something really painful. Mother. Theresa. Is. Got But it was it made sense to Tony because he said. He mixed up the too fat, Fox or black hair? Right, he and Jimmy. Yeah yeah, but Marquette is the mix them up in. He says I can't find pussy anywhere. Nobody knows anything, so we have a reference to the title again. I can't find pussy anywhere. Nobody knows anything. And then we go to Mikey's house. Yes, which was so good? So like that scene. Yes, good seen good simple, little seen. He reminds me of everybody that I know in my world from back then even some of my cousins and stuff. He reminds me of the voices I I remember hearing. I like his sense of humor with her. I love how she calls it a Rome. He's just always. When AJ calls it Monica, college or something like when Junior. Junior calls it. The Escobedo brothers I just like when they make mistakes, the best line of that whole entire scene were. Were you the stupid when I married you? Stupid when I met you I, also can't believe how stupid the two of them are. I, now. Tells her. He tells her, but that's so real man. You know that jackass like that. I mean I feel like I've. The from Jersey shore where I went to college that were that were like that. Yeah, come on, Christopher would never have told me. And, he was at the level of Mikey, policing certain ways. Christopher was deeper. But he was that right hand man to the main boss. He would never told Adriana effort. There's something really pathetic about Mikey. Bombay see though you know he just like he wants to gossip. He wants his chick to be like Oh. My God you're going to be next in line, so he's gossiping to her. And like. Of course she's going to be at the nail salon or somewhere telling somebody. Oh my God. Have you thought about Michelle? San Pietro. That's her turning Michelle Sandwich. Pitch ended up hanging out with her a bunch when we when we were doing the show I believe that, but I did notice. She had a nice to she. Cute with her little red hair, and like Oh my God I need a new car I. Need a new car. anyways last seen Yep. Take it to the bridge. I love it. It's very peaceful, very peaceful scene. It's a to me. It feels like the COM-. Even though he's contempt of and he's deep in thought I think That I think it might be. The Bridge Mackenzie and killed himself a HA. The raritan river. I think that it's very. Roman. And I think it is the calm before the storm of What's about to happen in the next? Two episodes will actually in the next episode. I'm going to add a segment to the show tonight. We are going to add the music element to the show because I think we can't gloss over anymore. Think it's too important because music was so important to David Chase and to the history of the show. So that scene ends with. With a song, called manifold the Amore by the Latin playboys, and it says way another guy. La Puerta Alma. Grew Doyle, modest Yada and that means I'm going to navigate to the two door of my soul. cruising the beach until I get there cruising the ocean till I get there blend. Nabi what the the Loma, so the door! The door to your soul is basically what it's saying. I felt like that's really interesting because things are about to. Get very hairy as Fars life and death situations, and Blah Blah Blah on as far as the music goes. I will gloss over it quickly. I loved the music in the Bordello I loved. The R&B Vibes old school. Blues was all that was old blues. Johnny Atoms really smooth, and there are two times that you hear the same artist playing their. The songs are walking on a tight rope and my heart is hanging heavy. in the bust there is a band called pretty and twisted Johnette Napolitano. And the name of the song is the highs are too high. then. And that's when it when push these farting supposedly farting song case. Anybody needs reference I I. I'm sorry. The Pussy farting song is a song called sly. What is? What I'M GONNA. Ask he he. Has a bunch of files see. Got It. Okay anyway now we're moving to backs so now. We're not done with the songs we're. We're going to go through these songs. Really quick at the bang. There's a song there's a song called slide by the hotheads. Then we have Mickey Mickey's Monkey. And the miracles and that's. The name of the Song as Mickey's Monkey, and it's by the miracles at the Sopranos House. That's one of my favorite old timey songs from like the fifties sixties. It's a great song and I. Liked that they play that in the house in that scene because Tony, Soprano says out there. It's one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety whatever, but in here it's one thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, four, so playing that song in the house at their open house makes total sense because there's an innocence to that. At the Bang Vince suicide phone call that song that's playing in the background I was losing my mind like. Why is this a song that I used to hear over and over again as a kid and it's kiss, it's lick it up by kiss. I can't believe that we even got the rights to a kiss song. I mean amazing. who had to Suck Gene Simmons. DICTA. Get that frigging song, and then it's it's It's bad, you know by R, L Burnside, which I think pops up in the middle somewhere, but that's on i. feel like comes up repeatedly reminds me of something throughout the series and I. Don't know what, but that's a great one. It's bad you know by Rl burnside yet done done with excitement I am now. Now forever, going to do the music segment and Y'all can just go fuck yourselves, but I'm going to anyways fun facts. Police car plays. The opening notes to the Godfather theme continuing to his strings of outright classic mob film reference references this season. By the way I look up a car. He was driving. He's driving a cadillac. Deville and no Paul Driving in El Dorado. Pussy drives a Cadillac Deville, FYI. Tony mentioned Grovonni Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we already know about that. One of my favorite lines when Paulie walnuts since he got cat scans, dog skins. We got our students guide tomorrow, Lingo Lingo Go. Kippur. What's that could put? What does that fucking smell? That's what that means might on means my God I, might all it means. The Madonna Actually Maloka. The more. Malaysia is actually spelled M.. Al Occ H. I. O., and that is the evil I want. To curse on you or if you're playing pool, you, do you do across before they like the whole when you shoot the thing, so no one gets it in your corner to see you know I. I didn't know these I'd. Say I wear this thing. Just. Give them a look and I do this. And then when I'm playing pool, so knowing the ball doesn't go in the hall that. I like this. And this and I do a cross in front of the actual pool. Always these things just this is this is my own. My Own, my own craziness, all right. Who got wacked? We all know whatever nobody got wacked Mackenzie and committed suicide. Guido, she chic. Forget about it. Who Cares it's all about? Hair in this episode now. Outed Maroon Puma suit. NOPE Nope, nope, the prints of Sopranos your man was wearing the best track sue. Did you see the short say again? He's before the short sleeve trucks. No wasn't sort he's like. No, no, no, no, it was a long-sleeve. It was awesome. Oh! Good. I felt like vinnie baggy I don't know. I loved it, not Vinnie what's his name Ceriga Sharpen Maroon Puma soon that was. But his hands were fooled up so high at he might not this SPA at. His wife Beater on and his pants were up here. I'm so funny. I love the fashion here. Okay? What's on the menu at the SUV? IOS? It's easy this week. zoot regard Pie and Cannoli got pie is one of my favorite things in the world I Kada high for you guys who don't understand what what regard. Legal and that is a cheesecake. It's an actual cheesecake. That is not an American style cheesecake. It's Italian cheesecake cannolis. We love it, and now we're done and I'M GONNA. Go get him bed. Nurse fever, because I feel like should everybody but thanks for hanging with US and keep on listening to us and keep on subscribing and Lincoln Bio and bloody blue. Blob, so this is the you to. Subscribe all those things. Five stars, six dollars thirty five thousand stars. You know we love you. Subscribe and like our videos, please. Yeah go ahead. Well. 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"Get, ready Sam's garage starts right now I welcome to Sam's garage radio I'm Samo and I'm Sam Adobe. You can speak the same in San toll free at eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine seven. Let's get to work. Good morning, welcome to Sam's garage. Hope you good pope doing well. We're so proud you with us on the Saturday morning. We got a great audience and we love our audience. We appreciate you being here. Toll Free Number is eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five nine seven semo in San Madaba hit anti questions. We can help you out. Get to some great information via cars trucks. And we'll talk a little bit about some of our wonderful partners here. Garage I up his New Hampshire oil undercoating. NHL You, the safe easy way to protect your valuable investment, NHL US undercoating in their mouths out can protect all your equipment. 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We got a very special guest and a good friend of mine Mike Eden from eating Detroit Springs less so. Let's welcome to the show Mike Good Morning. Good Morning Sam in Good Morning Sam how you guys this morning. While I'm doing great. I think he is too 'cause. He's at the lake and I'm now. Must Be. He's days Mike when I'm at the lake if because of work. Yeah. We'll blame it on work. Absolutely. We've been posting your one minute. Monday by eating Detroit spring on our facebook page. Sam's Garage Radio Show facebook page and had a lot of comments and Taiwan and this particular Monday. You had rebound clips. Let's talk a little bit about what is a rebound clip. Rebound clip is the band that goes around. A group believes that hold them together. Most people think that springs break when you wait on them and they go down. That's not the case springs break, and we're talking leaf springs least brings break when they when the load suddenly comes off, and spring is going upward. See when. Spring has got to wait on it the way just going down on it, the one leaf on top of supported by the leaf below which is supported by the League below it, which is supported by the leak below it. So when the weight is going down all the leaves of that support, but when the way suddenly release, those leaves all star separating, and there's nothing supporting belief above because there's start getting a gap in between them. And the purpose of the rebound clip. Holds those leaves together as a group so as they're coming up, the load is being released in at least three is coming up. Those leaves are supported. The leaf below is supported by the league above it, which is what about relief above it, which is supported by the leaf above it. In other words, the renowned clip mixes spring lasts a lot longer. I see now. I've rebound clips there like a piece of steel. Steel with will use a rubber gromit where they come together. They lock and unlock usually on top of the spring. Those strong enough to keep that. Hold Spring Pack together. All those things are very strong, and that what you just described Sam is just one version of a rebound clip as call like a like a automotive or L. style clip where the there's a little cabinet goes to the whole, and then there's what's called. Clinch clip, which just the band of metal that has been around heavier abandoned metal, which has been around, and it's just like riveted to one leaf of autumn leaf underneath, and then there's some boat. Clip it about clip. It's called. It's like a you with a bolt going across the top of it, different styles for different purposes different different usage. Okay now if somebody wants and I know you businesses is packed. You got a Lotta business. You make springs custom springs. You've got the blueprints as we talk about all the way back to the late eighteen hundreds and thousands and thousands of all we blueprints, and you can help somebody get a replacement spring exactly the way their college manufactured But you're telling me that there's a specific steal a number steel that you use and what is that? That is called essay fifty one sixty. Okay what those numbers mean! seems to chemical makeup, but Those are things. I forgot a long time ago. It's hot. It's a High Kurban. Silicone steal. Okay and you also explained to me that that's pretty hard to work with. It's extremely hard to work with. Even in the raw state, it is very tough to work with the. we like to say spring steel has got a mind of its own. You may want it to go in a certain shop. You may want it to form a certain way. You may want the final product to be a certain way and it sit there and just Nah. I don't WanNa do that. Want to be like this it'd be. It'd be pretty darn close to what you want, so you got a tweak to get it where you wanted eventually to be. But even in into Ross state. If you try machining it it, it's str- extremely tough to machine down. It's tough to drill. That's why any holes that we put in in in the spring. We do with a sixty unprocessed. We punched a hole through. A really you drill it. No you don't drill. It will drills faster than fast and if you WANNA, get down go ahead. No go, ahead. No if you WANNA, finish it down grind. Don't even think about machining. Okay. If you try to drill that and you have drill bits. Would that thrill that actually work hard in the surface are the material you're trying to drill. Make it worse. It can. It can be drilled. Don't get me wrong. You can drill up, but you're going to drill it at a very slow speed, and you're gonNA. Take your time drilling. Down goes boom and it's done. Yeah he gets hit with sixty tons of pressure on a little little punch in boom. It just blows at whole right out, yeah! That's great, so somebody you know. What are some of the things that you deal with during the week? When people call, you got sprang, but I'm having a problem. You know it's like. Install era and I'm not beating anybody up and I'm not saying people are stupid. I'm not trying to cast any aspersions here, but you know longtime ago in shade tree mechanic. We did a show on for a company that did remanufactured engines. And they had a very low percentage of engines that can't were returned under warranty. And of course, they used to take them into the failure analysis on them. In the majority. I mean some of the things that happened the gentleman that was running the company shared with me and I thought he was lying at first, I was just unbelievable. One. These people had an old Ford, but at three ninety station wagon they bought a remand engine, and they put the accessories on the remand. Put it in the car to even use the old oil and filter. Could you believe that? Can I believe dealing with some of the public? Yeah, I couldn't believe over that stuff yet Scott. Campbell. You'll get hate mail, but anyway. One of the stories with one of his employees gotta remain engine I struck. This is an employee, the guy that building these motors in his factory. Took it home on the weekend it in spite it up, and he had a knock. He was angry and he took it back on Monday and they found a little carburetor fuel lines hose clamp. Papa wanted a pit. Mike, stay right there. We have to take a quick break. You question to ask him we back. Listened to Sam Garage. toll-free would. Samoan Madaba Diabetes. You have spring question for Mike. Eaten. Toll Free eight hundred. Five, three, five, nine seven. All this fine will be right back. Sama Model HIP EATEN DETROIT. Spring are you restoring classic. 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Check the store website, our and shipping information and remember. Don't just seal it K- sailor. Mike. We were talking about. This this story I was telling me about. Owners! The owner or the day the installer era. What kind of things do you experience every week? Why wouldn't probably the most common experience we get? There's somebody calls after they put it in a new spring, and they say that the car is not sitting right sitting too high one of the very first questions we asked, if not the very first, it is the first just the car. Ninety seven point seven percent complete, because you have to remember spring, support weight, and all those things that aren't on a vehicle equal weight. Line of Type, not lifetime you ask that question, just a car, ninety seven point seven percent complete, and they go no I. Don't have an engine that well you know. There is missing five to six hundred pounds right there, you know. Put the engine in it and the car car drops back down to where it should be. so that's that's probably the biggest question we get that I would have to say ninety seven point seven percent of the time. The cars aren't complete. We tell them get. The car finished dry. Then call us back and let us know very very rare wherever you're back from somebody. That's great now. I have a question Sam has a question too I think. Is there a break in period on new springs. Very good question. Yes, there is. springs are designed right from the original equipment manufacturer. They're designed to have what's called a sec in them. That is there was a little extra height built into the spring. Because once it starts to be used once it starts to flex the car. The vehicle driving down the road that that little extra heissel be settled down the car. Settled, down in the spring the suspension. Figure someplace between a quarter and a half, inch. Springs are installed. You take out and you drive for fifty to one hundred miles now when we drive it, we say drive like you stole. Don't don't baby. It hit the brakes box accelerate. Get those springs door. Let them do what they're designed to do. Then take the final height measurement of the car. And the vast majority of time going to settle down that that at quarter to half inch. That's great tim to have a question. I've a group of lowered a lot of cars over the years I've always noticed I've always both customer is going to settle a little bit more, so it used to. Also yes I have a six a couple of questions that have a sixty seven Cadillac Deville that I just recently took before twenty nine and installed aluminum, six point, two liter ls, three and a blower nitrous, and even with all that extra weight with the transmission. Now the block is much lighter, but I did as a super charger inner. Cool stuff like that. The car is still. Much higher in the front than it should be used to be dropped about you know four inches to go back to factory ride height. Now that's something you can do. Drop it four inches and still retain that Cadillac ride. If it if it was an original car without all those changes made to it, and you wanted to drop it for inches. The answer would be no because you start running into interference with other parts of the vehicle. You know just steering the brake lines, etc hassles, but if you did all the changes like you've done, you've actually liked the front end up. When you needed to come down four inches and other words, they get it back down to stock. Yes. That is something we could do and still maintain a ride. That's awesome. That's great. That's what I'm going to have you on the Cadillac and I have another question you could. You could just take a torch heat springs until they got to the high, you wanted. We did that in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine California. On the! Remember. It's going to have a set after you do that then you know. I Have A. An excursion and the people say not to put low raising blocks. And blocks on the front axle. You can do it on the back, no problem but on the front they recommend. Backing Springs, but when you look at the big trucks, if got blocks of the front axle as well as the back. So, how do you feel about that? Well not all the big trucks have have have blocks underneath east me. Some do a lot. some do How do I feel about I'm not crazy about it Blacks is the leading cause of Axel wind up. The closer you can get that Spring seat to the center line at the Axel. The more security axel is going to be. As, you pull that. Spring seed away from the Axel with blocks you increase the fulcrum point which causes actual wind up. At! What a great technical point that is Sam. Absolutely? Yeah I learned something you. You do a great job. I was just recently looking at one of those who who's the guy you work with an auto restaurant? What's his name? Jeff Ward. He's a good guy. Well Jeff for how we the editor of of Mustang monthly for the magazines. Until all those places shut down, but you Jeff Jeff. You're very knowledgeable. So what do you WanNa say about job. I think he wants to ask you a question about Jeff, for his Be Right back on I. IF I knew the question, he was asked about Jeff. Look like I'd do it, but I don't. Feel as funny as we have an excursion here that the customer put a huge sound system in a four by four excursion diesel new down for Mike Okay one of these obnoxious ridiculous one. Dropped the truck down to axel, so we took him to our local drive why shop and they just kept stacking springs attacking's rings and activists. It's still finally rose back up and it was actually able to support weight. That that's. That does not good. Not Good, but it does happen and. But I have to read for our audience. I gotta read a couple of the comments. The first comment was exactly what you were expecting from. Something like this from this video to well. I know I'm getting my new suspension from well. That's a good now. The next one. I know you'll love. This old man knows his stuff. Cracked up when that. Little Man, are they talking about? must've been job couldn't have been. And, then, then this guy, he said, excellent choice of guest, perfect teacher figure, thank you very much. Great Show I learned a lot. Jeff Glad, you touched on painting springs I'm working on my pickup. Our thinking a painting themselves a lot of great common. That's you do so much good work for the guys in the business i. The homeowner the there Saturday night, special ratio the guy that trying to build his own car and he's doing stop that he doesn't really understand. Any can't get help anywhere, but he can get a Lotta. Help from eight in Detroit Sprang, isn't it? Well. Thank you very much. We're here. We're here to help people to educate people. We've got. Tons and tons of years experience at it, and we understand that most people don't understand what how springs are and how they work, and how important they are, so. It's our job to tell them to teach them. The reason why the company's been around for eighty three years. have. Made me. Feel all these year. That's awesome. It is awesome. Well, Mike. We're going to wrap this up, but. Let's talk about you. Make Springs both leaf and Coil Springs, but you've got everything else. That has to go along with it, don't you? Yeah, the the attaching parts shackles the bushings. The U boats the eye bolts. Just about everything that every- everything that's needed for. And what controls the springs action? What controls the springs actions when you mean by that doc absorbs. Shock absorbers it's using. Ashli shocked control the release of the springs energy. You got me on that one. God I love it. But you have. The ability to to provide people with the shocks they need, don't you? 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When you're doing a burnout that car you never could control. You didn't know where it was going to go. Yep that's true. It will take about that. If. Volkswagen call toll free, eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven Sam. Did you see that super swap I was talking about? If it did the coyote motor in it I, I I've seen with A. Ford Motor in it. Up they stuck a turbocharged coyote five leader in that super in ten there. It's unbelievable. Yes well being inland safety comes with a pretty big engine based. Also gives you a lot of room to. Make it a disaster like that. We toll free at eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven. Let's go to John in Nebraska has an oil question on his nineteen, ninety, four Chevy Truck John Welcome to the show. Will thank you. Thank you for answering. why do. Chevy pickup under seventy thousand miles on. But at you from an old timer. Just wondering what okay to go with like Mobil one oil. Be Fine that'd be no problem. Number, would you recommend? Pretend to be a thirty minute. What do you think Sam what what kind of close? kind of broke up when you were chain of the actual cost. It's a ninety four Chevy pickup truck. What do you probably got the five point seven liter? It's a three fifty as far as I know. Yes. They tend to thirty in the warmer climate. You could even go as far as can w forty but even five thirty were work, but ten thirty is a better deal for that particular engine. Yes Okay now that's the thing that's interesting. John and Nineteen, Ninety four with less than seventy thousand miles. That was a pickup truck I owned ninety four extended cab. and. The truck was I had no trouble with it at all. I will say this. Is Old as it is. Thought to have oil consumption. It's going to be aroused. Oil sales a hard and Chevrolet has replacement stem cells that will take care of that. No problem but I'd be willing to bet been probably been well-cared-for. You can go to Mobil one. Filter like a wickes and you'll be in great shape. Okay well. Thanks for the information. Outlet, thank you for the call. Have a great weekend. Stay safe. Well. That's a fine, isn't it? Sam Ninety four Chevy Silverado drink five seven with seventy thousand miles. Incredible absolutely, those were good truck. Ruling step stepped out of the Eighties and went into underage for the Silverado was Nice Interior made the box body of the box truck, which was very cool in the mid eighties. The box Chevy truck especially lifted square body. Yeah, the square body lifted nicely done those things nice. Yup? I saw square body riding through town. And had a sticker on the back, and it said if I wanted to go fast are. Thick struck his fast. The answer is no. It's shaped like a brick. With cool. What was that? What was that the fog I think it was where he had that big square body truck with the two tone Brown. Stacey David mid. A replica of it It was jumping everywhere. What was that show Chester may no. I can't remember. Or we'll think about it right now. We're GONNA. Go to dogging South Dakota. He's got an eighty. One Scottsdale odometer does not work good morning. The morning leave. Isolate that to take their problems down at the transmission. There's actually. Home. There's nothing there, so we've got to take that off. And whatever parts of the need we assume? We've got a four ten rear end. To drive. only way we did. That is by marketed dryest fashion Zach. INTO TIRES I. Don't know if there's another way to do it. The number is incomplete as far as Talionis. With Iran might the show. Of Force. For parts because we. Restore this, Scottsdale. which includes like on the dash that little handle there whereas all that silver trim whether there's a way to. That's somewhere it re-trimmed or whether we can buy some type of cal kid or something. as well as the box, etc, Irving get replaced, so I'm looking for sources you help us. Yeah brothers, truck, parts or C. Trucks, will both have those? Items? And you're right with the rear end marking the drug chef looking tire market that will give you exactly the. Very very very close ballpark to your rain gear ratio, and as far as the worm gear inside the tail chef of the transmission. If you just take the pill, chef. Could replace that gear. That's our plan. Yeah, we assume we have to all that stuff out of the way. Twenty, five hundred a chance. Well I I tend to I don't know it says twenty twenty on it, so it could be I guess. Yeah, see twenty was the designation. That's three quarter ton, so it very possibly. has that Fourteen Mirror Axel in it? And now the plastic driven gear got the drive gear, which is on the output shaft of the transmission, like Sam said you got a towel shop. But the the gear that goes into speedometer drive gear that goes in from the side and held him with a little clamp at the cable plugs into. That's plastic. Was that thing broken? It's not fair. We took the. We gotTA. Do Cable. And put it. On Sixteen. Trial, air radio doesn't happen, so we hadn't. Checked, the or dominator by sting it and you could see it moving the pickup. So, then he stuck his finger in the hole down there on A. Tale Dale and there's nothing you can reach nothing, so we assume it's chewed up in there or somebody took out. We don't know, but we're going to take that apart next now. Okay, but. There's a gear to steal gear that's pressed onto the output shaft. Those gave almost no trouble. Now the it drives a little plastic gear sticks through that. A little bullet and the other end is where the speed dominic cable excuse onto. Now. Those plastic is different numbers. Depending on your ratio. That's why I was asking if that was still ed because they were Colorado blue and pink and orange, and the college denoted how many teeth had so? You don't just get a plastic drive gear if you need when you gotTA, know! Pretty much. What collie needed a good transmission shop? That's been doing it for a long time. It's been doing a double three fifty's trouble for hundreds forever. They probably have an assortment naked. Get you one. Okay. Yeah thank you on that one and Co worker there mentioned a source for restoration parts of these say our our our EMT. What did what was the company to go to C. L. is one L. as in Lima L., MC and then the other one is brothers trucks. Otros, truck or Doug. Doug if you look inside the glovebox over the glove box and stuck on the inside face of the glovebox. Door! There should be. Chart in there looks all kinds of numbers and stuff that's called European code a regular production options of what it means in it'll that number in there? Any Chevy dealer can take the number from the rear end and tell you exactly what you gary show as if nobody's changed it. Right, we we wouldn't know. If. My brother got somebody else. You know so. It's been sitting in our. Place for about four and a half years and the grandson came here so I decided like ramp. Who passed away, so he wants me to help him. Get going he got the edge all running fine. new carburetor while reveal carburetor and all that stuff done to it. Breaks are done now, and our just starting to deal with you know getting down the road lakes and And what I'm stuff you know. That's ever might. Go ahead! Now GonNa move to the interior little bit to find sources for interior stuff, and then we'll have to do a Lotta. Bodywork or just find replacement bodies doors, you know. I'll tell you brothers truck parts has all of that stuff I mean we did a TV show. We took a long bed. I guess that was a sixty six or sixty seven. We took a long bed truck. And you know the for the the popular ones are Short bed, so we took a long bed. We cut the Chassis Nancy make a kid at brothers truck that you short in the chassis, twelve inches, and then have a complete replacement bedsides the box the whole thing. You can get everything you need right there. There's truck. Okay well, thank you guys. Thank you, we're going to go to a break appreciated. Keep US posted on your projects, folks, we toll free, eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven, seven Sam here at Sam's garage. It's forty three minutes after the hour. We'll be right back. We had a longtime custom. visit the shop awhile back. David been a regular for years. He has a number of different vehicles, but his pride and joy is a nineteen sixty five thunderbird. He's cost-conscious, usually very careful, but he hadn't been good about checking cooling strength and ended up with a crack block under the intake. We suggested to very different options. Engine replacement for around four thousand dollars are using K seal for about twenty bucks as you would suspect David Piquet seal. It sealed his car's leak and prevented. Prevented one in his wallet. 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You're supposed to have a zero lash with that two point five liter unless you're adding an adjustable shaft is. A Stud style shaft worth adjustable. Those things are pretty much bolt place deal so. Yes. I did check my pre load and I got my lifter pre low. It looks like about sixty sixty five thousand. okay then. Tell. You Sir. So you have! A change from the rock around ratio. What did you put in the role? Ask different ratio. Is that what you're saying? Yes our. Factories, sixty one when I went to one point seven to one. Might say my preloaded supposed to change and I checked. It seems like say but. She'll get this like they call the. Film seem to. Try to check into this like you really can't get a straight answer. some people say it's Kinda normal. Run I. You know when you put roller rockers on I. Mean it's not like a roller. rocker makes any more noise than regular one. Now there is a center bearing, and there was just a little bit a clearance center bearing, but not enough for you to hear because of outcome, even be a problem over the engine. Sound the push. Rods are all good and straight, and you haven't done. Any nothing happened in these dumbly portion of now. Everything went together as far as I. But I, you know I've been looking into this googling. Says that little roller in the tip sometimes can decide decide making always. Were as running foot. I just I couldn't. Push Frog. Yeah, no, you can't either left to right won't make noise the only thing that makes the clearance issue. There's gotta be something that's got too much clearance or a battle. Sister collapsed. That's the only thing that would make noise The, the tip of the roller is not gonNA make a noise. GOING INSIDE IS GONNA make a noise. It'll wear, but it's not gonNA make a noise. So as an exhibit. Building multiple of these, or is this this one you're having a problem with? Well you know sitting here running say you to like song seen sound like across the board they're. Really. mean sound like all not had the valve cover I've. I even went to a little bit longer pusher out. And it sounded kind of smooth out so quiet shown but I still gotta take go. Or the new lifters or older listeners Oh. Everything's. and how long have you been running for? Do you think liquors are fully pumped up? I've got right now. Just went over two thousand miles on. Okay. Yeah. Done good. Break in. You know he's breaking only thing. It sounds like you know what you're doing and you see. How loud is this noise? It's A. Well. It's a I mean just see the the thing is quiet. Have no big BLOB muffin autumn. Nothing like that and. It's just I mean it's kind of faint. Let's raise the hood then that can hit real good. And if I get on down, the road with I, can't hear it at all, you know. Well now. Here's something you can do when you got that kind of is. You did the right. 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What's Your Skin Type with Rene Rouleau

Glowing Up

1:02:01 hr | 6 months ago

What's Your Skin Type with Rene Rouleau

"Esther. I am very excited today. I know this is a big deal. But we've we we do this every week. We we act like we're gonna talk just you and me and then we have nothing to say. We don't care about each other all we just wanna get right to the guests. So let's please tell me what's going on today today. We have what we call a guest of guests. She is a skin care legend. She's a world now s petition. She owns an up an epa miss product line in her own name shooting. Your favorite celebrities have got on the record and talked about how she saved their skin. Today we have on the one. The only rene rouleau rouleau. Yes what intro. Thank u renee. Welcome thank you for saving half of the cast of riverdale skin honestly pretty much most of the cast riverdale. Actually but yeah. I know i introduced like the riverdale casts fucking aestheticians of choice. We thank you for your service. You're welcome in my job for nate. There's so much to talk to you out. You're a goddess of all things skin. I mean i maybe you could share with us a little bit about your journey in like how you came to be the rene rouleau we see with more us so we'll anyway. I'm blushing. thank you all your sweet words are are making me glow So yeah i think. I think like any person who's in the beauty industry. They got into it because of they were passionate about it right. There are beauty junkie. Oftentimes aestheticians get into it because they had problems with their own skin and they research to try to figure it out for me I became a beauty junkie because my grandmother was a hairstylist and owner hair salon. The powder puff beauty shah. We're going to need to talk about your grandma for a good ten to fifteen minutes. We circle back to that though. I'm so sorry all right and so. I grew up kind of had a big impression on me watching that. And so i just got my fingers and all this stuff at at an early age and it was super fun and i knew You know i. I went to a class reunion once and a girl said. Oh my gosh you're the you're the first person in the fifth grade to wear makeup and i was like i was and she's like yeah. I used to bring makeup summer parties. And do everyone's makeup. Like i do remember that at all but i was like wow and so but yeah i was just always just into it and so i knew i actually started my path and beauty trying to be hairstylist. I thought i was going to follow in the footsteps of my grandmother. Because back then like i didn't know what an institution was that wasn't i mean that was not i mean yes there were petitions but it certainly not what it is like today and i didn't even really know that was a thing so i the the first salon that i worked app starting out as an apprentice hairstylist. They had an institution there. And and i just got exposed to that and i was like no i want to be part of this and so i quickly changed when to school. Became an institution and worked back at the salon and then and then my coworker was why mentor and she always wanted to open up. Skincare business but she had two young children don't want to do by herself. And so She asked me to be your business partner and at the time i was living in boston and so i had a skincare salon for major twenty one to twenty six. When i lived in boston. And then i just wanted to get out of the east coast change of pace i grew. I moved every two to three years growing up and i was just getting itchy for you. Know anti to try something new and so i left end. Sold my half of the business even though you know was super successful but my former partner are still great friends to this day. And i started rene rouleau in dallas in nineteen ninety six. Shortly i started as a skincare spa so was a practicing institition. Fulltime started a skincare line slowly but surely and now fast forward twenty four years. I've been in business. And i started e commerce in nineteen ninety nine so ben e commerce for a long time and Five and a half years ago. I relocated my company to austin texas where i am now and we have a team of eighteen here and this Earlier this year we got a recognized as best company to work for in austin so next year is the big twenty five super exciting and actually today as a matter of fact we just launched a new skin care product. So it's been very busy and fun. Today's okay. wow. There's a lot unpack here. So first of all obviously crab my pants. When you brought up your grandma. I think that. So many strong women have such amazing connections to their grandma's. I'm like all. I'm obsessed with women's connections to their grandma's the i mean so your grandma owned a hair salon. You said it was called the powder. Puff the powder puff beauty shop. I i without knowing anything about her. I know i know i love her. Did she have any like really amazing. The unity rituals. That you remember i just i i remember. Will i just remember. She know nothing really. Like but i just remember she always just loved touching my hair and cutting it and just kind of was always messing with my hair. I was young. And i was like grandma. Get off me you know. I didn't car grandma. Her name was abby and that was the finnish name. My mom's side of the family is and the us finish name so her name was abby. Yeah finish you. I'm half finish my god. I finished p. pau. Oh my god i actually. I won't get into it but i. I know a really cute little finished song that my grandmother used to sing with me as a kid. I got high. Crime is finish and my great grandma is finished. She spoke finnish. I this is a weight so weird. Where was the salon. And where did you guys on in wisconsin. So a lot of finnish people from the midwest. So i grew up a boston. I lived in boston twice. Wisconsin once in minutes minnesota three times So throughout my childhood. My family is mostly in minnesota. There's some in wisconsin minnesota. We're in minnesota. Did you live chart twin cities kind of be dying in kind of like wise etta area jan hasson so yeah cheese curd all my god over actually the so it was not her beauty tip but a lot of finnish people are not shy with drinking alcohol so that side of the family they loved to drink and my grandmother was hardcore drinker and smoker is just common he that no comment but same right. I see what's happening here. that's so like i. it's beauty like the first thing in like beauty. Tips is don't drink. Don't smoke. But i love that back. Then your courage drinking not all the all the second hand. Smoke right as i mean i. I mean every time. I smell cigarettes. I think of my grandmother and he chain smoked all the time right. I mean you were just sitting around and all the time you know. she's drinking. Your coffee with sugar lumps in her coffee. Just smoking butts. And you know i know. Cigarette smoke ryan's. Do my grandma. And i feel terrible saying that. But it's the truth i have one finish. Follow up question for you where you guys big on this kind of beauty related where you guys big on saunas. Because that's like a huge part of my the only big part really of my finnish culture. I feel like yeah while esther as you know they're called santa's so probably up until the age of fifteen nerd or twelve or something. I call it a sound. And i remember when i moved up to boston and people were like what's a sound and i was like and i also i. It was like everyone says sauna. And i was like. Oh my god. So then i now call it a sign up but but it was the sound but yes so that we always would say southbound and so i do have talked about my sound days on my blogs ever really popular skincare blog. But yes my. My summers were spent in a log cabin in wisconsin. We didn't have running in this. Is the house. My mom grew up in. We didn't have running water and we had An outhouse and a sound and so twice a week we would bathe. My grandfather would go and heat up the rocks in the morning. Make the fire and an early evening would be hot enough and all the women would go in. So i go with my grandmother and my mom my sisters and we'd all be first and then get out and then the men would do it so yeah like that. We didn't have showers. So that's my summers. Were bathing in finnish sonal so yeah similarly my aunt who lived in wisconsin where we go. We would go for the summer to wisconsin and minnesota but it was my aunt and wisconsin house where we had the sound it was. That's where we like spent all our nights it was. It's such good memories the albany. Can you really like being in asana like well. So the rule is higher. You go up the hotter it is heat rises right so if you stay low and then we'd always have wash cloths co watch. Possibly we'd have cold water that we pump from our well having a bucket and you would just put a cold rag over your face and if you sat low then you're not kind of inhaling it and all of that but i mean it was really a means to bathing like now. I'll go on a sound for relaxation right. Like i go to this one wellness facility here in austin and nogo sitting there for thirty minutes or but So yeah. I mean it's just when you can't stand it anymore. When you're sweating you're just like at your wit's end is usually when i hop out i have to say i love the way that you guys talk about. Eighty s and ninety s wisconsin. It's the eighteen seventies. I'm nine pumped it. That's how i brush my teeth. Thank you would literally go get. Get a cup. Go out to the well and you would just pump out your water and you put your cup in there. It was like camping. Almost and that's i would brush her teeth. And yeah i mean and it's funny because it's like when i got to my teenage years also i look back and i'm like wow. That was so weird. You know like we didn't have running water and then like but now i certainly cherish it because it was really unique. I'm getting a very fabulous like a lot of mixed messages. Like there is a well but you are also wearing makeup when you were like ten. I pump the well and then where to go and get my maybelline great. Lash it alone. You make do with what you have you know absolutely so i feel like you mentioned. You have super famous skin-care blog. I'm so sorry. I didn't mention that but there's amazing posts. It's so true treasure trove of information. I think that one of the things you might be most famous for our the nine skin types in your skin type test would love to hear a little more about that and would selfishly love to see which skin types minister are. Okay permanent. i'll. I'll talk about the nine skin types and all kind of walk you through a quick consult and and pick out your skin type number so so when i became an institution and went to school. We were trained in what's called fitz fitzpatrick skin types. And that's still used to this day. It's used a lot by cosmetic doctors when the determining who can get a laser treatment because there are certain it's more about skin color kind of tone right if somebody is Fitzpatrick five you know. There are some lasers. you can't use. That's kinda win. That language is used says fitzpatrick one is really fair. They burn easily like nicole. Kidman or something. She's a fitzpatrick skin type. One so we learn about that. But then we also learned about dr norman oily and accommodations in was But it was all just kind of very generic and so when i became an esthetician and started or he clients hands on. It was like okay. You know there are little combination. Whatever and then. I would recommend skincare products for them to use at home and the line i was selling was like just to cleansers three moisturizers again. Catered to like it was very generic skin types. And so the first long that i worked at i i begged the same donor to bring a second skin care line and eventually third so i was curious people's routines because i couldn't find one line that kinda spoke to everyone and so so being a hands on aestheticians. I realized that skin was very complex and everybody skin was unique. And you certainly can't just put somebody into a dry skin type call today and then from a skincare standpoint. People didn't have skin care lines that were catering to what the uniqueness of people skin so i determined in a million years ago that there are nine distinct skin types and within each of those types. There's very unique characteristics That i go into so it really sums up like the details and the nuances of someone's skin and then i created a skincare line based on those nine skin type so when people go to a reload dot com. They take the quiz. It's really fast and easy. They're put into one of the nine skintight And then it will recommend products. We also have supporting video. So someone like a tip. The type quiz says skintight five. But i'm not really sure then. They can kind of watch the videos to hear me talk more about this skin types and then they can also if they really want to we. All we offer virtual skin consultations in so they can also do a facetime appointment with one of our in-house aestheticians that Virtual consults and. That's kind of more personalized advice. Wow i gotta know. What type are you so i am a skin type six. Which is the name of that. One is normal anti aging. And then like. I said it goes into all these kinds of characteristics. But it's it's just a skin type. That's it's not really sensitive has a little bit of discoloration. I'm starting to get like you know. Some little melanin spots sunspots get older. Just want a little light combination in the zone in the in the summer but can feel a little tight and dry during the winter. So it's kind of that kind of skin type and just kind of a skin type that is always seeking a glow and brightness of that. Your skin type is classic. It's like a cadillac deville or something solid like middle. The road just kind of strong a lot. I mean sounds a little more camry really wanted to kind of show car. I'm really hoping i'm a camera. I want to have cam rescan i. May i have a feeling my is going to be like a made american car like in a way. I'm gonna be like a honda fit or something gloomy us. Today's episode is brought to you by pros okay. There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to shampoo and conditioner. 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How often are you breaking out. And we're on the face. Are you breaking out the most. It's usually pretty concentrated along the strap chin draw. Think that it's definitely a connected to the food. I eat like dairy really breaks me out and Yeah it'll be like either like cystic on along the draw or like whitehead's okay this area and in a given week. How many times. How many new breakouts are you getting in a week or is it not that often. Oh my god. Not a week goes by. I don't have two pit bulls at least a So about two a week okay. Do you get break us. Anywhere else or is related. Just the area it's sometime. I some clog pores on my forehead but not not too bad. Okay and then. Let's talk about hyper pigmentation. So is that post breakout marks or are you getting like brown spots. Sunspots p. h. Post inflammatory hyperinflation from your breaking saw any believe car and it does for everybody. So you're not unique in that way. That's just kind of the process. The life cycle and then lasts ha one of us and then The third thing was kind of tone. Is this kind of you know something more not more lately. Like are you noticing like i'm hitting thirty in all of a sudden not noticing like just a little bit more of the agent changes if you will ya think it's like pretty standard. It's nothing nothing too crazy. Everything's into a bit of a droop. What a little bit. You don't think. So esther i don't but i also don't wanna like invalidate. How you feel so he out watch yourself into you do produce oil or are you kind of like more of a to g feel like zone. Is your skin ever feel tighter dry. Even if you're using gentle products no only if i'm over exfoliating. Do i ever get a tightness okay. It's pretty fucking widely. Okay you feel like are porous convert large got a large large forest for sure okay and any sensitivity like how would you call yourself sensitive like do get rashes. Ready rotation things like that. No some products break me out is sometimes like the sensitivity right but not like reactionary like this one to ten. Maybe i'm a one like sometimes they'll get a little grad after. I like put something over my face but but it's not a real okay. Okay so your skin type. Two and i'd have to look up a number one that's close and i think it's it's called like oily. Suppose i could look but oily. Combination occasional breakout anti-aging. That's what that one is in so So check it out. Skin type two again. We'll all the characteristics but basically because you're predominantly chinon jal. I'm breakout. I don't wanna put you and even though the frequent like twice a week. That's no fun but i don't wanna put you in one of the full on kind of acne routines because it's it's limited to a certain area the face we know it's probably dairy. You know that sort of thing But there are things. I would suggest you to skin type two and then get like my auntie bump solution which is our number one bestseller which is specifically for the hard source. Sister take one matches. I just want to the two right so do the skin type two and then spot treat and use us as prevention in your problem areas so right. Yeah so you're to ask. You're welcome esther. Let's talk about you. Yeah we before we do though just because caroline. You said to likes the silver medal. I learned this and it's so interesting to me. Did you know that like a from the olympics. Gold silver bronze. If you the person who wins a silver is the least haffey. Because they're always thinking about how close they were two goals. Isn't that crazy like you're better off at braun. Yeah that's almost there. Yeah yeah. I'm gonna try a little less. Okay sorry okay What is your age thirty to thirty two. And what are you. What are your top. Three skin concerns order priority. I would say redness. Like i just wait. I always look in the mirror. Name red and it's always bothered me and i've never. I've never done anything about it. i i tend. I'm very dry. But i'm usually the only very dry when i'm in l. A. where i live. And not when i'm like other places and it's a tie between anti-aging and sunspots okay and Of course in so we were freckly child. No no so. You're getting more sunspots now immediately. Have that when you were younger. Yeah okay specific. Like i only seen in certain lighting and like it just like little sponsored around here. Okay and the redness. So you're somebody that after hot shower you get pretty pink for. We'll stay for a while. Yeah but definitely. It's worse after a hot bath. But it's also like i feel. Don't shower here. Yeah i do only take babs. Got but i feel like all day i look in the mirror and i see red kind of readiness right so like kind of underlying just kind of pinky reddish skin and would you say that you're easily to skincare products. Do things sting and burn and you know yeah. Ok okay and then do you. So do you ever get any breakouts. No no very rarely very rarely and we end you oil producer or are you. Do you feel like you're kind of more normal or do you ever feel dry dry. Dry which trustee witch. Yes perfect great description. But you feel like you're dry. Yeah i get flaky or is it more just like your skin feels tight or both right or both right. Yeah blow depending on time of year. But i've definitely been plenty frequently. Yes to so it's all about like it's all about like barrier were and you live in l. a. Okay i would say type five. Which is something light normal. It's that's gotta hurt rene. Don't spare her feelings she has. I know i know right tough. Love here tough alot. Hey it's i think it's called like Normal red sensitive anti-aging so so it's kind of like a 'cause you're i don't read your sensitive easily irritated. We want things to really calm the skin and diffuse redness created environment in the skin where the skin is less reactive by improving your skin's barrier and all the while keeping hydration in the skin but i don't wanna give you can take nine is kind of the dry version of that but you definitely can have dryness but you're too young to be too dry. I don't wanna use a lot of really heavy things. I knew but we definitely wanna hydrate really well but yes can. Type five is definitely. Has your name on you the literature. There's no support in the literature for your skin tight. Nothing you here. would you say that renee. Would you say that esther skin barrier is phenomenally week. Just like so weak so weak well because of actually Her heritage not the finish side because finish people. Don't really have sensitive skin. But you must have something some something else in your heritage jewish jewish so something is your red insensitive because of some sort of heritage and only because you read a lot that needs you retain a little more heat in your skin and your skin's barriers kind of always trying to stay closed up and sealed so when it's not if you're using harsh products or get frequently overheated that you get little cracks in your skin's barrier and moisture escapes easily and then and then products sting easier. Because they're hitting the nerve endings and so the goal is to kind of like close up these gaps in the skin so your skin is less reactive and moisture stays in the skin so it's about like correcting your skin. What do i do. Is there any hope for her. Use use products for skintight. Five us products on your skin type. That's the solution okay. Let's it's an easy fix easy. Fix good luck esther nine. Oh okay that was all really helpful. I am releasing to buy a bottle of anti bump solution. I i've read about that before. I'm excited to know it's amazing. It's number one dollars. So for reason honey. The numbers don't lie. They don't okay. I read an interview with you where you talk about the importance of sleep position and you have a very unique way of sleeping. Can you tell us more about that. So there's lots of things they do actually at night so one of them is you know i do. My nighttime routine of course But yeah i sleep on a very firm pillow so they basically say like what's the stat i. I wrote a blog post something like thirty eight hundred hours or whenever however many hours asleep you get in a year and they they the thought process. Is that how you sleep on your pillow. Mom can contribute to the second cause of aging for your skin. Basically for wrinkles. Because you're basically ironing wrinkles in your skin if you're certain in certain positions where you're kind of creating wrinkles so i basically get a very firm pillow and i sleep on the corner of it so i try not to like push my cheek is. I'm trying to prevent like the nasal labial full lines from appearing because i tend to be more besides sleeper. And so i will tell you this for sure. I mean thirty years of being institition looking at faces. You definitely probably somebody over the age of forty five on average you can see i can guess how sleep and from their from their face is that dislike Is that like a full or like a drooping. So what you'll see is somebody's aside sleeper. They'll get kind of these little wrinkles like up here next to their Near the lake on their cheeks kind of the sides of their nose. You'll see like little folds in. It's basically were like the skin squished. And yeah and you'll see it so if you basically just put your hand on your side of your face in squish it. Basically whatever wrinkles you get. That's what you're going to get in. So yes since. I enjoy sleeping on my side is the key is different pillow because obviously need neck support But yeah so i. I'm very conscious of of not squishing my face because that's just unnecessary rebels. And the second thing i do is most nights i hang my head upside down for tonight after two minutes a night. in a basically brings like. This wouldn't be for you because i'm trying to create more blood flow to my face. That's not for you. I tight five but carolina you could definitely do this since you don't how sensitivity in readiness like that But yeah so. Hang my head upside down and And it brings new oxygen pumps new blood of the skin which brings nutrients to the skin cells and basically feed your skin with the nourishment from new blood so it helps to keep your skin glowing and does dear loved ones or family member. Walk on you hang your head upside down go renee you've lost it yes for sure. Yes i like this is. This is all name good skin. You gotta do what you gotta do. I the upside down thing. It was like she can't really do that but you really do do it. Yeah hanging over the side of the bed. Yeah i'll have my phone on the floor. Just scrolling through instagram or whatever and just hey head down. Yeah i mean your vampire. Let's just be honest. All those main minnesota and wisconsin summer. Who's right you kind of are a vampire when you live up in. That nick of the woods consists. Summers are so short right. I definitely seen a few bats up. Close in wisconsin. There you go. Oh my god. I have a question because you're talking about redness being heat related and i've been asking this of our guest recently. What is your opinion of cold like skin. Care fridge ice ruler. Where do you stand on on all that stuff. Because i feel like. I'm kinda into that right now. It's pointless will so from a capillary standpoint capillaries hold blood and basically when you get hot they dilate and that's when you see redness on the skin like after your hot bath or if you work out or hot summer or whatever and then cold constricts and it makes you know while depending on it putting ice on the skin you're gonna get a lot of rednecks but is cold. Temperatures constrict the challenge with having redness in the skin. Is you you want to every time. You dilate capillaries in the construct them dilate and constrict them. But this is just normal happen is gonna happen after a hot bath and eventually constrict again but capillaries lose their elasticity in stretching rubber band. Right i mean after awhile. You keep stretching in eventually. They don't spring back. And so what where your setup for is that. Your capillaries are weaker anyway because of your genetics and so when you get instant you kind of already kind of dilated which is why you see the readiness on your skin than with age. They will continue to kind of get weaker and weaker. And you'll have more flushing us and more on the skin so the so so so so things are good. Because it's trying to keep your your capillaries constricted. The good news is is that you know there's lasers at if you know that can help correct that but we definitely want a skincare routine like i said that creates an environment where the skin is trying to be less red. Because that's less wearing her capillaries by you can also take what's called vitamin c with bioflavonoids and those are ingredients That's a vitamin c. Pill that you can take every day. I take it every day and it basically helped to kind of do an internal strengthening of your skin capillaries to keep them. Hope you're taking us to your supplement station right now. I was actually going down. I'll show you right now. I was going downstairs because it's starting to get dark year and so on june we never ask our guests to like show us. What's in their fridge like. So here's the bikers e this whole foods brand so i take it once a day. I actually here's my little all day of the week. I get ready to go. i don't take. I don't take a lot of supplements. Those i try to get a lot of my nutrition from food Do take a vitamin d iron. It a multi and abc's of beaver to make sure how dark chocolate covered raisins every day. Alligator fits flush this. Ice cream is definitely in my nutrition every single night. So oh my god yes there she is. What's your what's your favorite flavor while we're on the subject so lately into the spread opened the fire. A little mini cups of the driverless. It's buttercup oh little right. So i'll just have one or three whatever also do oh dryers dryers are small cool. I like that You okay so the capillaries. We don't want stretch them out. But i'm just curious follow up by that logic. Is it bad too cold on. Because then i'm like to stretching them more i mean it's not it's good for people with redness you want to try to construct them as much as possible because the longer they stay dilated so like just say you take a hot bath that now your skin's kinda read afterwards. The longer the blood stays in there and stays dilated. That's what's creating wear tears. You kinda want construct them as quickly as possible and i want to take that vitamin c flavonoids thing charted. Yeah yeah yeah okay. I'm i live on your blog. Post renee reveals eleven beauty tips. I highly recommend everyone pulled this up. But i don't wanna go through some more of these. Because i've never heard of so many of these. Yeah beauty tip number two. You protect your hands with mineral powder. What the mother does that mean. So i keep mineral powder in my car. And then i just dusted on. Because it's like you don't put a sunscreen cream on. I hate those touching everything. Everything's yeah it's grows and so just taking a mineral powder and you just dusted on the tops of your hands and your house all right. That was a lot simpler. Than i thought it was gonna mineral powder. He all right. Rene you shave your face. I shaved my face. Yes i i recently switched to the benjamin stacked razor but for a long time. I use just some little something. I got on amazon. Or whatever but yeah to help manage peach fuzz which comes on with age and makes your skin. You know glowing. Skin is all about having skin. That's light reflective so that light can bounce off the skin and so when you have Light reflects less also having kind of a you know less peach fuzz on their makes the skin look more globally and it just makes it look more youthful. 'cause free suge facial thirty but when i get up close to the mirror i have like foregone. Baboon is a thick dense. It's like a hairy. Well i mean in with hormones and age we do get furriers so when my god you're telling me it's like a fucking animal planet on my shave your face. Walk me through this so you wash your face. You padded dry in the new discolored with a razor with no on a clean face. I actually do sometimes. I'll just know. I'll sometimes i just do with with make a bomb before i wash my face. 'cause you want your skin really dry when you do it you don't want really any moisture in there so So all just. Because i don't ever like to leave my skin. Bearer longer than sixty seconds after cleansing because moisture. Evaporation occurs because water attracts when your skin is wet view. Don't seal it in pulls water out of the skin. So i just go right on right over my makeup and do it like at night. I only do it like twice a month or something like that three times. A month But i'll just go in on under over makeup and just do it. And then i'll and then i'll wash face into my routine at night. Okay wow can. I just say i live for that friday feeling the minute. I closed my laptop. Know that. I don't have to answer any emails for two days. It's the best feeling in the world but now you have to wait for that feeling to kick in once a week because with award winning wine from i leaf any day can feel like friday i leave as a wine club that since personalized selections of wines from top vineyards around the world directly to you because the only thing better than one fantastic bottle of wine is a case of award winning wine. 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While i use okay so in the morning so i sleep with my invisible line. My last retainer Line at night. So i went through and resign many years ago. Or whatever but So all pop. My no sorry. I use a soft toothbrush. The morning brush invis- line then pop it out. Use the soft toothbrush to brush my. Embezzle line In all kind of do a little brushing with the soft toothbrush for my teeth. Then i'll get my sonicare toothbrush. And i'll use my sensitive all use. My sensitive are censored eyeing toothpaste. And so then. I'll do my. I think that's what's called sonacare rates as the toothbrush rain. And then i'll and. I'll do that all over and then i grabbed my third toothbrush. Which is my super firm toothbrush. Every dentist says don't use it on your teeth. And don't but i'll use crest toothpaste and i'll brush my tongue with the super hard one home homemade god. So you're double cleansing. Your teeth i seriously. Yes you're renee s. I dealt with my teeth. That's it wait. wait unbelie. Why the hard toothbrush trump scraper I think i tried a tongue scraper once a long time ago. But i don't like it but i also like i don't know i like putting toothpaste on it and like feeling all many but i think tanks you would do. That's so smart to make your tongue. Bill minty fresh breath. I i usually just go in with the dry toothbrush just kind of like. You're not dry like no toothpaste on it. I scrub itch down. You know. I do a tongue scraper twice today for sure. I'm there's a lot going on my time if i if i did. I don't know what would happen to me. Wow okay this is an interesting one. So you your beauty number nine. You're obsessed with keeping the skin on your body smooth and bump free. Oh obsessed obsessed. So i like i love having soft skin like really soft skin. I love it not being like bumpy or anything and so i also don't like it being bruised. I don't like it having like mosquito bites that leave scars a little post inflammatory hyper pigmentation so like i just i just really like having like everything even toned and so so i fully a ton. I like a good salt scrub like. I use a couple times a week. I use a A serum in my line called smoothing body serum which is a glide colic lactic acid ceremony Under body lotion. i particularly. Use it on my knees. You know those kind of get drier in the skins thicker there. So i'll use all extra my knees but then the body lotions and then Sometimes i'll use a dry brush on my body. Sometimes i go to the dermatologist. For annual skin cancer screening every year. And if there's any little like little spots or little skin growths or anything or sometimes even low veins. I'll have them zapped. And i just like i don't know my thing and so yeah like but i love soft skin post inflammatory Hosted fragmentary hyper pigmentation on the brian escape. Oh bites and stuff. Yeah yeah all the exfoliating. I do between you know salt scrubs and the acid serum i use. That's what rooms all of it. So you're an inspiration and it's a little scary but in like a cool way we'll end. The good thing is like i. I i definitely will say i'm not like i'm not like ocd about anything. These are just habits and rituals. That i love and make me feel good so like i. You know they never. They don't feel like work. Yeah i have to say like my biggest nightmare would be like coming into the next life as like a mosquito by on your body or something. My biggest fear is like being a small mark on the back of your knee. the decay did yes. I like i am so out of the running for that to be a reality. We eight percent reside. Always covered by sim lake dots. I just said so. But i will say like there's something about the like fantasy of having nothing on your skin. That feels very like barbie doll. Like and sometimes i think i am swedish about like what's inside of us and i always fantasize like if you cut my arm off it would just be like the inside report it also isolate. Just buy from you. I mean you do have pink hair. I gotta know right pink hair. Is this a wash. Manic panicking is power. So i use Depositing here conditioner by overtone. So they have pink mixed pink pastel. Pink can pass still a tiny bit of silver just to make it nice and cool tone. It looks very under our light. This very warm tone right now so it looks a little warmer but i and then i mix it with regular conditioner because at one hundred percent strength that will make it too bright and i don't want it that bright so yes every time i shampoo. I just put it on my hair. And so then when i travel not much as but All pre make them And put them in a freezer ziplock bags and kind of you know have. Actually i did that this morning. I was in dallas last night in separate hotel. And so i pulled out my premade conditioner. And i just wanted the bound in the shower and scooped it out of the ziplock bag But right now. I'm doing a Thirty cold shower challenge and so luckily for dry shampoo. I only shampoo my hair like every four days or something so every the rested so i will do a warm shower for that. Because i'm in there too long and the whole like the fact that have to color my hair and all of that. It's couldn't do it cold so but the rest of the showers were. i'm not shampooing. These days is a cold shower. A cold shower. So i feel so fucking good after a cold shower. Oh for sure. Yeah feel like crazy good. Yeah i mean it's like. I don't drink coffee in the morning. It's like the ultimate wakeup sent. I gotta ask do not drink coffee for skin reasons. No it's because it tastes disgusting tegas gusting all so gross. I just don't get eating you. Drink alcohol they do. I was wondering if you don't back. Because i think alcohol taste growth. I mean you know you're you're right. It's like last night i last night ahead. Some and basically is like most rings drinks absence. Why well yeah so actually. So that story is an like switching to like not so positive things but my my husband passed away two years ago and he was french and so yesterday would have been our wedding anniversary. And so i went met a friend in dallas weasel about banal nineteen years and i went to one of his favorite french restaurants and so i drank his so all things french. So absence was was part of that. Absinthe was part of that and then ricard which is A liquor that he loved. I drink a lot of that and so just a lot of that. Combination of stuff made for a little headache this morning. Let me tell you. I someone that put back a fair amount of french liqueur last night. You quite amazing. I would look this good. Was it the void. You was it tincture over a sugar cube acid. No no they just brought it in this little kind of fair. My only exposure absent his moulin rouge. So it's like there's like the illegal kind right and like this is not obviously the illegal kind so all right. You caught us. Okay okay anything about anything you frigging tatas renee. This is like you're awesome. You're you're s chick. I don't even know how to say you know i read. I ride a motorcycle kind of dark out. I was gonna show. We'll here. Let me turn the lights on three simple. Oh my god. I mean yeah. So beautiful off victory deidra. It's we believe. Now you saw some chrome. I saw curled. I mean you're so cool you're beautiful you're bad ass we n- with a famous skincare line mean. You're a businesswoman. Your skin goddess. You're right in a wild hog through the streets of austin can't you can't do. That's for sure. But i'm always trying to challenge myself to learn new things. I just a magic trick recently. So that's my. That's my new party trick. That's that'll get you far. Yeah good party. Who does a love it right on the next next you on the show you're gonna have to show us that magic trick okay preference frame. Where can people find you. Like of the exact url of your skin care blog. How to find you on instagram. Like tell us all the things. Yeah so so for anyone listening to this. If you are a skin-care enthusiast. I highly recommend you go to my blog and subscribe to get our emails so you get all the latest blog post. I've had a blog since two thousand nine Just basically brain of my head. You know my brain into my blog post. I've seen with the span of my thirty years as an institition we over a thousand blog posts super educational super interesting. You're never going to hear like the drink water for glowing skin. I have a blog post on that. That's like the least efficient way to hydrate the skin. But we talk about really unique things. And i share client stories and just so if you want to get educated by your skin pointing the way to go i have so if you renae. Reload dot com and click on blog. You'll get there. But it's also blog dot rene reload dot com and then Of course i around skincare line so take content quiz and find out what. Your skin type is I my personal. Instagram is rene rouleau and so my personal instagram is my life and i talk about skincare. Sometimes but it's really more just all the things you know being a girl boss and my adventurous life that i tried to live and all kinds of just behind the scenes in my world. And then rene rollo's skin care is much more focused on skin because it's the company page and we share a lot skincare formation there my philosophy when it comes to social media. Is you know you. Every poche should either inspire educate or entertain and so we really try to Get people to be on the company page. Smarter skin-care consumer definitely our company pages. A great one as well so awesome. The blog is amazing. Highly katie recommends. But rene thank you so much for coming on our show carolina and esther esther my say that my relative will have to do a. What are those like family tree. Was that one like industry or something and we might be related. I know we'll all right. Your apple and we will see you soon. I hope thank you for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity. Or sterling's podcast network.

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#1944: I Stink, Therefore I Am

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#1944: I Stink, Therefore I Am

"This message comes from. NPR sponsor. Xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like Xfinity X.. By get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make WIFI simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply blow to car talk on National Public Radio. It's a pleasure the B.. Thank you very much. We Act looking habit brothers and we're broadcasting this week from the Save the Skis Foundation. Here Car Talk Plaza. You know you know. It is skied each season. So we are redoubling. Our Public Education efforts saw times re doubling redouble right right so what were efforts to begin. Ghinwa I'll tell you what they are. Now reconstituting what was the last time you heard the word constitute refrigerate. Did you ever frigerator something. Yeah it's that those questions that we'll try to talk. In fact speaking of words we have. We have a letter having to do with words if I can I just find it. I just thought well listening to you a highly entertaining and informative show. I was is dismayed to hear one of you guys. I won't mention any names under the phrase rather unique rather unique somewhat. One of one of a kind. It's like almost better than a couple of erudite fellows. Like you have got to know. That unique is unequivocal an absolute loot qualified. A modified through the use of libertine adjectives. I realized that this is a widespread trend in today's decadent society and others. I have nothing better to do with my life. I've taken it as my personal crusade to stamp out this insidious usage wherever it makes itself manifest. That's a rather unique letter. It'd be six months to stop using the word Brang and Chris Cala of Saint Louis also wants to know how I am. Shirley right ever allowed out such terrible transgression. She was on a sabbatical sabbaticals. Lot everything it's cracked up to know. I just thought you'd like to know if you'd like to call us about you. Car Number is eight car talk. That's one eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five a lot of noise when I opened this can no. I don't think so then August. Hi this is margot from the bay. Area Margot Fargo from the bay area. Tell Ya area to yourself. uh-huh oh sweet. Well I'm moving so I don't have one particular city they tell you. Oh you don't because you're moving. Yeah so you don't want to keep your your new address A secret far away in the witness protection program probably really calling you realize that no one I heard the other day. Someone told me that thirty three three percent and can't remember the right way. The skulls but thirty three percent of the people in the witness protection program is Federal Witness Protection Program. Graham living in Fremont really either that or thirty three percent of the population of Vermont is in the witness. It is one of those. What's up what's your problem Marg? Okay well I have an eighty nine Cadillac Deville that my dad gave me and he just had the brakes and everything changed. So what's what started happening is it would make this really high pitched squealing like something like that when I first started when I would turn the wheel steering wheel one way or the the other but then it started making it all the time and it sounds like it's maybe coming from the the wheel somewhere this happens is when you when you don't have your foot on the brake right so when I put my foot on the brake it stopped. Does the vehicle to be in motion to occur. Yeah it has to be continuous or is it Kirker. It's choose one of the above A. B. or C. A.. Her herb be We'll see the mind your mind. Which one is it be it would be without with the he will continue? It is high more high pitch is that true is a it. Almost it almost like that high pitched sound that you would get with talk on a fingernails Zach where someone had the brakes done before he gave you the car everything everything that he's lying polished and I think he's trying to bump you off up. Well I think the noise is got to be coming from the brakes and I think that the noises coming from something called the wear censor where censor. Yeah W. E. A. R.. Almost all cars have a wear sensor sensor on the brake pads. It's a little piece of metal. That's designed to make contact with the rotating disk when the brake pads get down to a certain thickness this so once. They've gotten to the point where they're in danger of ruining everything this little piece of metal. In addition to the brake pad making contact will make contact with with the the disc rotor and causes very annoying squealing if you if you if you recorded that and you played it a slow slow speed on your tape player. Dolphins will start jumping out of and you'll hear John Lennon. It synchronize the wizard of Oz. By the way would you step on the breaks. The reason the sound goes away. Is that you actually deform the pad and you will actually actually make a move that where censor just a fraction of an inch away from the disk and seriously if you record it and then play it back slow. You'll hear Benny Goodman playing sing. Sing Sing but you gotta look at Margot because you could have a cease caliber or restricted brake hose. Or something like that. They could make the car. Dangerous mechanic will be able to figure it out in a little bit. It's not hard. It Ain't rocket science you don't you don't sound like Cadillac kind of person. Someone gave her the car father gave it to her. She wouldn't a bonus etiquette. But you know. What is the etiquette get involved in accepting a gift that what is the appropriate amount of time that you have to wait tree? Get rid of it I I you know I had had this clunky Honda accord and I thought well so that and also my dad's Cadillac and I'll get a brand new Honda but absolutely the Cat. He's a smooth ride. How Old Dad Dad? We'll be eighty on January. Oh you're the right age. They have to have a CADILLAC X. I'm twenty nine get out. Yeah my dad godless fifty when I was born. Wow Did dad buy another car. Mary a showgirl. He married secretary did he really then actually be said. Are you ready at the age of twenty nine to be a cadillac owner. Well I you know when thrown into a situation you know you do what you can sure I have. I have a marketing marketing strategy for Cadillac. I think most people don't realize how wonderful cadillacs our because they never have an opportunity to ride in one. Yeah but you wouldn't into this thing some people get the right one but in the trump signed back you ride in one. It's once you drive. I'd be driving one so my theory is a cadillac. Should just go out. Give the castaway and just let drive it for a week and if you like it like bowls radio does we'll send you one if you don't send it back was on your bill. They should just pop them on the side of the road with the Kim they let people drive them around. And they'll the sales would skyrocket there. That's it not enough. People are driving driving them to realize how great they are. Because you. You're one of the few lucky ones Margaret. You could've taken his car and sold it right off and got another Honda. But you didn't. Yeah and now. You're you're you're done you'll have a cadillac the rest of your life. Maybe get the break fix or that. Life won't be too long. Thank you very much. Thanks for calling bye one. Eight eight eight car talk. That's eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five lawyer on car talk. Hey guys guys. This is drew from Harrisonburg. Virginia Hydro Dr U. R. E. W. E. W. W like Andrew. You got it. Yeah where are you from. Drew Harrisonburg Virginia. Got It Harrisonburg. Virginia it's in the western part of the state in the Shenandoah Valley. Right along interstate. Eighty one I've been there cool. So what's up drew. Well I've got a Interesting situation with my my car. It's a ninety three Saturn S. L. One and for the most part about ninety five percent of the time it runs runs like a top unfortunately the other five percent of the time it runs funny and the problem. I've been having his when started up usually in the morning were were Sometimes this happens if I stop that. Stop sign or a light When I have the question and I'm and I'm not moving the engine we'll little Shimmy and it? It goes one bump bump bump bump bump them you know good shimmy sound with the clutch. Depressed quenched depress in the vehicle in neutral. Well with the vehicle in gear and the question. Now if I take the clutch out. That's the corner. Take the vehicle out of gear. It stops cool. Oh Good so the question is do I have a problem or am I moron. We have to make a choice because they need to worry about here. Or do I just need to take Take it out of gear and there's no good reason why it should why the industry run differently with with the clutch. Depressed are unimpressed. Exactly the same. The engines shouldn't care. This is what I'm thinking but it runs funny but it shifts all right beautiful. You've noticed no problem and with the clutch no no problems clutch. The only thing that I can come up with is with you and this is not mechanical. It's not well while it's not. It's not mechanical electrical. I'm convinced of that. It's electrical and I hate to disagree. Agree where the with my brother because his answers for the most part what the other really. No there's one other people which has there any animal portions words. Yes yes more of the bovine. What's happening when you step on the clubs? You are moving stuff under the hood and you are somehow interrupting a ground circuit ooh I think you have a bad ground and the way to verify this is to run another ground from the engine block. You can do it with a jumper wire jumper cable us to jump start. Get your your car. Run a jumper wire from the engine block to the frame of the car someplace and then from there to the battery so you make the ground ground connection solid and then get in the car and stepped on the clutch and I bet you. The problem's GonNa go away and then you have to either figure out where the broken ground wire is but short of that you can just run your own new ground. Why they don't care what goes on as they go through ground wire of sorts? Just leave the jumper cable. They're wrapping around something and just leave it hood. They're attached to the fan. Well I hate to agree with my brother but I think this is it especially since he agreed with me I have. I mean they have to return the favor xactly because there is no mechanical reason. Why when you step on the clutch it should have any effect how the engine runs? Okay well that's good to know and they you go as far as the timing belt doing. I think I should replace it absolutely. Yeah Yeah Okay. Yeah that's what I was thinking when they fix this ground why I haven't sort timing belt in it. Yeah there you go the other way around. Actually you go so you drew. Thanks a lot good luck call bye bye bye one. Eight eight eight car talk. That's eight eight eight two two seven eight two five. Hello you're on car talk. This is Fran from Annapolis friend. My boyfriend and I have a question for you. That will put both of your collective car expertise to test the half brain we share. We'll have a Ford Taurus. It's a great car but both of us are jocks. We play a lot of sports whenever we get into our car after playing thousands tennis. We're inevitably sweaty so. The car has started to take on the locker room. That's a bad smell. Yeah we've tried airfresheners. We do used the odorant. How how to rid the car the car of this foul odor? I haven't I have until so all right. What are you guys? There is a PRI- I hate the plug any product years. especially if they're going to pay his but there is a product known as odor eaters leaders. Oh yeah these are things you put into the into your shoes suggesting that. He wrapped their bodies in that you buy I liked twenty or twenty thirty pairs and put them in the mix them to the headliner of the car. No one ever see them because they'd have to be in in your car to see them and you're the only ones that are in. The car will absorb all the orders that are emanating from a lousy and so his by a lot of people have a nice car and then like on the winter comes. They don't want to cut the car to get wrecked so they buy another one which they call. What Bangor? Yeah Bank on what you call a stinker and you just use this other car to stink up when you go running. Whatever else you do? Well we swept the most in the summer the summer sweater it's going to be a stinker one way or the other. I am not a Jacques because I already have the world's most perfect body anyway so there's no improvement possible but if I if I did do things like running things that I stink therefore I I am. WHO said that Rene the way to solve? The problem is to have a convertible. And then when you get in it you put the top down. Tom and the smells go off and pollute everyone. Else's I think you should have those fifty gallon trash bags on hand so when you come to your car are you will step into the trash snuggling up her neck. Poke your hands through and your feet so you can drive the car home. Oh yeah just like those in the laboratory you know and you put your hands through the glass for the clean room cleanroom. Yeah that's that's that's not a bad idea. In fact General General Motors is already thought of this right. General Motors has the seatbelts which attached to the door. So when you open the door to seat belt comes out and you just crawl under it you attach the bodysuit right to those seat belts Golfer. You just climb right into the bill. The body bag and drive home. And you won't smell up the CAR DR. But we'll look Kinda tacky wrote we. Won't you smell so bad. Jose what you look like a friend. I I hope I hope this biological into lewd has been of some help to you. Thanks bye-bye you know. I've I've the idea activated tomato charcoal really. That'll do it right. I mean activated. Charcoal is not adsorb. Yeah that's right all kinds of olders. Well at Zorg things. It would be worth a try. You might lose. Your jewelry is something. That's that's the answers. Choose that could have given her. Hey Freddie East Michael Michael Coromoto another potential science fair project activists stink therefore I am go foreign. 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And of course the institute last week's puzzle Goldman well. This has been bothering me for a long time. And it's a a mystery that I decided I was going to solve recently a few weeks ago my wife and I along with my brother and his wife had occasion to visit New York City and stay get one of the finer hotels whose name I can't remember but it was one of those that that actually had beds and sheets and I'm sure all of you have noticed this but if you go into the bathroom in your hotel room you turn on the hot water whether it's at the sink or the shower and instantaneously you get hot water do you. Not I mean if not instantaneously within a few seconds certainly not time enough to come up from the basement basement of the building exactly so. I'm convinced that the water heater is got to be under the sink. This is called the point of use hot water. Water heater right. There are such things there are so I immediately dropped to my knees and I'm on my back and I'm looking up under the sink and I I I see nothing and there's just ordinary pipes. They're like I would see in my bathroom but I know in my bathroom when I turn on the hot water I have to wait and wait and wait. Eight and wait and finally the hot water comes but in the hotel room Bingo. It's right there. Yeah so I decided to investigate. You broke the hole in the wall. And so I I go looking. I walk up and down. The car to begin with is going to be a mechanical room right with water. got a heater. Isn't it's obviously going to be right near my room. Or maybe there were these things all over the place so I go looking. I can't figure anything out and I'm this. You know I mean room eleven twenty. There's eleven twenty one next to me. Eleven nineteen and the other side and I'm convinced at one of them is a phony an all night long tossing and turning. I can't figure this out. Yeah Yeah and at two o'clock in the morning I jump out of bed and you say you rica. I throw on a pair of wedgies in a row and I run to the room. Eleven twenty two next door. You're and I know this is utilized. It's not a real hotel room. It's a phony room. I pound on the door expecting no one would answer. 'cause all it's in the air is the hot water heater guy answers in his underwear. What do you what I know that? That isn't the answer and in the next morning. I asked one of the CHAMBERMAIDS. We're the is the water heater on this floor. She says no water heater on this floor. I asked the concierge I said. Is there a water heater. Above US below US he says no media Korea Alsi water heaters basement and the quote. He didn't tell me you did all of this. Oh I was up all night so as I. I didn't feel some jerk was banging on my door so the question very simply is if the water heaters are in the basement. And I'm on the eleventh floor. How in the world old can I have hot water instantaneously and this is the case? No matter what hotel you go to probably any place in the world you turn on the hot water faucet and Bingo. You've got hot water. Yeah what if the water heater is in the basement. They're telling the truth and all of the hot water. Faucets are basically connected at the same pipe that goes to the first floor second floor third in series. What if there were? Let's say twelve floors in the hotel and I left the hot water faucet dripping in the bathroom of the twelfth floor then the pipe would constantly be full of of hot water because it's applying that twelfth floor bathroom. Yeah and if the water down the drain at least it would do so in supply hot water to everyone else. But in fact they more clever than that and they don't have the water dripping and going down the drain they have tapped into that pipe right at the very top top floor talk flow and with a little pump. They take that water. That would ordinarily go down the drain and they pump it back to the hot water heaters to the water is constantly circulating so the hot water is never more than a couple of feet away no matter what floor. You're on you know they do this yes I do all weekend. We're sure you guys will living it up. Like Don King shopping on Fifth Avenue on rare jewels going to Broadway plays eating at the Carnegie Adeli. I was in the basement. Find the pump. Do we have a winner. Do we have a winner. You Bet we do. It's raven deal water her. Well that's a name for you from Mendocino California and for having your answer selected at random from among all the correct answers that we got Raven and we'll get a twenty dollar gift certificate to the Shameless Commerce Division of Car Talk Dot Com where she can pick up one of Car Talk Baseball Jerseys. It's quite beautiful anyway. We'll have a brand new quasi automotive right when you ask news in the automotive Muslim coming up in the third half of today's show so stay tuned for that. In the meantime you can call us and ask US questions about your car at eight eight car talk. That's eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five year on car talk. This is Malta MOCHA. Yes I got it. Where are you from? I'm from San Francisco. What's up I have a nineteen eighty-three Toyota tercel? So it seems to be smoking and my mechanic Mrs Sing who I follow. Religiously Ring Job. Well she should know. Oh well so what should I do. it she said it would be about fifteen hundred bucks and it might. It means that I should be thinking about buying a new car. If this doesn't mean you should be thinking about buying a new car. I don't know what would mean that. You even vaguely legally consider doing a ring job on. An eighty-three tercel is going to need a lot. Well how bad is a voluminous blue cloud so it's not that bad it. Although it's leaking oil it's causing other things driving. His cars like a form of protests. That look you've been listening to you guys for a long time. And you always advocate hanging on your old car hanging on lingering different yeah well first of all you've got to determine how badly you need the ring John. I mean it's not just a rain job or nattering Gel a ring job. I I mean the whether or not you need a ring job as a function of how badly the rings are leaking so to speak just like I mean. You don't necessarily need all operations on like my brother needs a nose job. But I don't but my snows could certainly be improved by a nose job but his is a desperate situation. My brother broke mine. Knows Boise broken with a baseball. So it's a matter of hurled at high speed. Small distance should've caught it. Your women and that's why I sent his black ambassador. Crushes pay you back break. Regular was steak. I thought you could catch. What was the question? Oh It's a matter of degree three. I mean how badly needs a ring job. As a function of how bad the rings are you can have rings which are a little bit bad like my nose you could have rings which are traumatically bad. Look my brothers knows and that would determine how close is the real question does it pass or will it. Pass the smog test. That is a very good question. Why don't you gopher one tomorrow? That's the key test for smog. Test anytime sure. You're going to wait dark glasses so they won't okay. Let me ask you this then if it passes the smog test. Is that all we care about. That's about all we care about. Yeah if it passes the smog test in the only other issue is how much oil you're wasting. But that's probably very very small amounts in the grand scheme how much oil you add per tankful or is it even that much at all. I am not enough but missing says that I have to look at the tank every other day the oil yet look at the oil oil every other day but wait a minute. We also know you have a leak. The head gasket is leaking. Oh fix the head gasket because that might be the major source of loss of oil so fixed the head gasket or at least ask Mrs Sing. If she thinks it's worth fixing fixing had gasket and then check to see how much oil you're using. But the smog test is the first thing to do if you if you flunk the smog test miserably then don't even slow down drive directly to the bone yard and just leave this car. They leave it running with the engine running and somebody will come by and take it. Yeah Yeah Good Luck. Thank you bye-bye one. Eight eight eight car talk. Call one eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five low. You're on car talk. My name is Matt Adam from Olympia Washington. What's up My wife and I have kind of had a Ongoing disagreement regarding the fact that she's a confirmed car door slammer time we get in the car or it's usually you know a couple of minutes attention over that no kidding now. Does she slam on both entry and exit exit mostly just closing the door whether she's getting in her out but I e she asleep she used a Ne- a knee or foot to slamming door. My wife does that. The gals are stronger than they. Look but my contention that it's not so good for the car no. It isn't very good for the car. Why does she do it? Did she fall out out of a car when she was a child. I mean yeah I mean you know that all of these strange peculiar habits that we have all can be traced to things that happened happen to us when we were six months to a year old training to an old relates to that. I mean. Everyone knows that it's been proven scientific theory so it's clear in your pool. Wife has had some kind of trauma in her life. Having to do with cod doors are the other kinds of doors. I don't know well. It may be that. There have been times in in her youth when in fact she was riding in a car whose doors door wasn't close correctly. Gave me the truth. Is Your wife more. I already years. I always slim no not more than forty years old. Well then she shouldn't have this problem. You wouldn't think so and the kids are starting to criticize her. And it's making person ten. He's a real slammer in in a big way. I mean if you discussed whether every time we get in the car. What did she say finally got to the point where she says? Hey well let's ask those guys on the Rehmat. I have the solution if you were any kind of a gentleman. You'll want her own door closing. Runaround open the door for her. She would help her into the car and you would close the door on her leg. That way boy what my and and I thought this guy was a thing going. My brother is not as dumb as he looked. Couldn't put up with. That is one of the more brilliant of your insights because that solves the problem of her slamming the door and at the same time turns you into a gentleman in number three also chose her at the proper way to do it so when she does into the car by herself you in other words you are setting an example for her without having to reprimand. He ended argue with her more importantly. Though you're being a gentleman God that's good. That is very very good enough said Matt later. The trump by like that one eight eight eight car talk or one eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five zero. You're on car talk. This is from Carlsbad California Fritzy Fritzy. What's up well We have to Peugeot's nineteen eighty-one diesel. recently died and What I'm wondering is a Peugeot that is still alive is is very well and it has a rebuilt engine? The one that expired had one hundred ninety thousand miles on it. But what I'm wondering is are there any parts to the old Peugeot Peugeot that I can salvage L. Fitch that to us and the new one because parts are very expensive. Are they both eighty one. Eighty one yeah. Oh what an ideal situation you're in. Oh what could be better to have to Peugeot's I mean this. This is like dining going to heaven. No because I mean what more could you ask anyone who owns a Peugeot of any kind especially now pujol wimped out and ran away from us. forsook us. One might say even though we loved it and we always recommended that people by Peugeot's me everyone who currently owns one wishes that he or she. We had a duplicate for parts. And you do well you your your objective of course is to rid yourself of the of the carcass. Listen just save those those few components all right Oh mark of the old carcasses better than the new one. Unfortunately we don't care about that you're gonNA keep the one that runs you have a place to keep both of them. Well she'll have to have a place to keep the whole car but I can keep parts why. Why not? What if you cut the car up into pieces serious I mean what if you quartered? They chicken the left hindquarter wing. I saw you quarter this sucker. It's all easy to transport when you do that. Now I got I was GonNa suggest you save the whole thing houses for idea dig a hole they take a whole and Berry Berry and then when when you need parts. It's like an Easter egg hunt. You send everyone in the backyard okay. Kids oil pump and EH burrow down and they come back with a oil pump. You give a little price planted close carson. Yeah very close to the surface but you could of course because the engine engine is no good in in in the the terrible. That's what that's what went on it right. You could just strip off all the parts from the engine. How much longer do you think this other heap is going to last to rebuild engines? Oh God no. It could last a long time since the body of the dead one is better Frankenstein movie. It's even worse Tesla Frankenstein movie. It's a Peugeot you might want fenders at some point you know who knows what so I would. I would keep the whole car really off. It's what you do. I cut it by God. You can buy for not a lot of money a garage lift. Oh and you can plant this baby right in your driveway and there are lifts which you can raise a car up on in the center of it remains is open for another car to drive under. All the neighbors would love that. I think that would look mash. Could just. Let's put the dead one. They put the dead one up on talk right so all the neighbours could see. I love this. Maybe they'll take a picture of this and put it in battered battered home. You know you really do have to save the whole thing. You owe it to yourself because you know the one piece you throw away is the piece you're GonNa need on top of which if you saved all the pieces you'd never know what they were curious way if you need that little plastic thing that's shaped like a Wi with a thing sticking out Donovan on top of the engine you know transmission very same piece is in the very same place in the other concourse of course so your inventory control rollback bloom goes way downright argue with that logic the whole car parts fritzy I would walk by hey look before we get to the new puzzle we have to take a short break more coffee. You're already had three cups of coffee. That's exactly why I need a break. Aubrey back in a minute it just and even though everywhere casts sideways glances they meekly was whenever they hear us this is NPR support for this podcast and the following message come from K.. Buxbaum in support of the David Gilkey. Okay and Zaba. 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You're GONNA use it. I think it's good and remember. It's quasi the automotive. What is being historic and folkloric scoring allergy in banding inviting inviting inciting forever? Go ahead man. I can have eighteen hundreds the high wheeled bicycle. Remember these from your youth. I certainly don't and it would not even it's called it was called. The ordinary at bike was called the ordinary was almost exclusively at toy for wealthy young men. I I thought it was called. The Penny farthing may be less what we're used to call anyway. It was it was expensive. It costs that's like half a year's wages and it was dangerous to say the least common accident being known as the header when the writer would fly over the handlebars you remember these bikes. That wheel was like what ten feet in diameter or some such thing. Yeah Yeah and you a sitting way up high then of course. The thing was difficult to mount difficulty. Call to ride. But it had certain advantages. How did how did you get up to the seat there? You jump out of the second one and hope that someone aheadon removed the sea. Yeah anyway in an attempt to make cycling more universally accessible bicycle engineers in years of manufacturers eventually developed what was called the safety bicycle which had two wheels of the same size of chain driving gearing not unlike bikes that we we have today for various reasons however the safety bike did not catch on immediately. It was considered ugly in elegant inefficient and and uncomfortable. Yeah then in eighteen eighty nine a veterinary surgeon in Belfast. I Roland patented accessory which revolutionized the bicycle and then of course the from that point on safeties began winning races and they became very popular and of course the ordinary stupid thing that it was when quickly out of fashion so the question is what was the name of this veterinary surgeon surgeon. Or what did he patent must be something with his name. If I gave you his name you'd know the answer now. If you think you know the answer you think you know. He's the producer. Dude that's liver. You think you know the answer right it on a postcard plaster and across a sixty six Dudley police station bus and drive by puzzled tower car. Talk Plaza box thirty five hundred Hundred Square Cambridge. Our Fair City Matt Zero route two to three eight or of course you can email your answer to us from Tahrir Talk Dot Com right now if you have a question about your car or anything else in the universe the number to call is eight eight eight car talk. That's eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five. Hello you're on car talk. This is Sam from Belmont California. I got a sixty nine Mustang with a three zero to two barrel just about one hundred ninety thousand miles on it and Convertible is it. No it's not a convertible note and then go ahead. I'll listen I'll listen is it. Is it blue green colorblind tonight. What's wrong with this dog? It's a good car no it is. It's going to be it's been around four hundred and ninety thousand miles not a good car. That's beside the point. That's beside the point. That's right Mustang. was never a a good car. A wonderful car was never a good car. It is now a good car but the cars have fallen in love with people fell in love with was a dog state of the art dog. Right ask asking wolf out all right. What's what this Mustang? What's wrong with it? It's not a computer problem because this is before the computer. Yeah when you started up when it's co- with the engine is cold before computers before computers. You started up. Cole go ahead. I'm listening. Cold it stalls. You know you start it up and runs. It's a little bit and then it stalls and started up runs a little bit and would you put it in gear. It's stalled okay. Once it warms up. Hey It runs great smooth no problem a lot of power but in that in that early portion of it you know the first couple of minutes it just stalls out. You couldn't ask for better performance than this. I know you think I'm joking but I'm not. That is the best possible way to start a car. If you want a car snot like that forever it will go for one hundred and nine hundred thousand miles. How many miles you know seriously because it starts up and Dan it has just enough time for a little oil to get squirted around every place and it stops because if it really kept running it? What's thought running too fast and you would wreck the engine so it probably has been doing this for decades two weeks and now that's what has that's the only reason for the longevity? Any of this engine. I would say you couldn't get it to work better than this now. I have to convince my wife of that. There are lots of people who don't believe this. I mean my car does exactly that I started in the morning but could you expect more from your expect. Whatever I get I started in the morning and of course all my neighbors knowing who I am they come out to snicker at first of all I crank and crank and nothing happens and finally it? It spits a little bit and it starts. I put it in drive by pressing a button might add. ESL onyx and it stalls immediately. And I hear all all the little people behind me go he but the truth is that's not really bad. What's so bad about that unless you're robbing a bank? Well compared compared to like a sharp stick in the bed at all. But yeah I mean if you really want to fix it you can because it's probably simple. Yeah you WANNA fix it put up points in it. Remember those yeah well. I've changed over the years now. I haven't done it within the last year but this has been going on for a number of years four or five years anyway. About three years ago I rebuilt the carburetor automatic. Choke works properly. We'll be the judge of that. Okay okay that's fine but you say so you but this this has Gone through several changes of points and never point condenser the little condensers. It's in with the point that little cylinder. Yes I changed that when I changed point. That goes down. Never fixed it no with a timing in light. No Oh damn I knew I wouldn't change why it changes Sam damp because older timing chain stretches and your timing could be off ten degrees would it make any difference whatsoever when the engine was was all warmed up. No the only time it makes a difference is when the engine is cold. Yeah take it down on the gas station. Push it down to the gas station and has a throw the timing Ming light on it and that will fix it. It'll run great and they'll start up a real colleague that he my brother usually the last. Even the kids are out there now like my son starts to laugh now. Dan Thank you very time. All right bye bye good luck. uh-huh one eight eight eight car talk or one eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five. Oh you're on car talk hi. This is Martha from West Virginia. Hi Martha Martha. How are you? I'm doing okay any place in particular in West Virginia now chest somewhere in West Virginia. There's a reason for that. There may debate or maybe I have one of those moral ethical dilemmas. My Good West Virginia Not Washington. DC might be state of Washington. Go Ahead Martha. We'll listen. Well here's this group about five low over five months ago my husband. I bought a van from a local dealer. It's a wonderful fan Use and We you know made all the arrangements. We received the title in the male. We've never received a bill what he gave you the car without paying anything nothing well. We made the arrangements through go one step father. Where is this deal? I see no so. This is the dilemma. I'm having what kind of Van and Martha Martha is. Not Your name your real name. That's probably true. Name is at Martha. You certainly don't live in West Virginia New York. Do you not divulging. What part of the state? You WanNa van. We don't know what kind we don't know how old it was. How much money's involved you can tell us that twenty thousand all? This happened about five and a half months ago asking so you have plates on it. Obviously driving the take does West Virginia have a sales tax. Oh they all right hold entrapment. So what should I do. What should I do voice off the radio for one thing? What is the worst case scenario? What if I mean if I never we're facing is you go in burden? Hell the worst case scenario okay. So what's the best case scenario best-case scenario is you his the best case scenario you go there and they say a similar thing happened to my father. I'll tell you a little story. My Dad called me one day and he said to me how did you buy me a ten thousand dollar certificate of deposit and I said excuse me. She told me and I said no no. I didn't he said well he said I just got a letter from the bank. That said that my ten thousand dollar certificate of deposit pause was coming in I ought to come in and either redeem it or roll it over and he said. Do you think Tom could have after the two of stop laughing apple which took about twenty five minutes. We decided that it was a mistake that in fact I hadn't bought him when we don't cheapskate. Brother hadn't bought him one Ashley. She's roasting squirrels under a branch so he didn't torture so he went to the bank on his guy that he is not he could have just taken the money but he went there and he said it took him the better part of an hour to convince them that it wasn't his money that they had somehow made a mistake and that while he could certainly use an extra ten grand he couldn't take it really gave him. You know what I his opinion I do the best case scenario. Well what you do and I I would take it. I knew I won't be riding around all a brand new on Gonda. Here's the best case scenario that you go there with your hat in your hand and I just noticed that I haven't been you know you could tell you can and tell them the truth. Say Look I thought my husband paid. He thought he could make up a story. Certainly that would be credible and then ask them what they would like you to do now. The chances are very good. They'RE GONNA ask you to pay for it. They could say you know what Martha we all forget it. We're going to reward you. We we all right. Well they they don't even I know this money's missing is this Hollywood. Come on yes that's true. Yeah they're going to give you a coffee. Yeah they might not believe you they might say you know what we've gone through our records and we don't we're not missing twenty grant and we're not missing a van and who are you anyway. Just walk check out the door. If that's the case I would walk out the door to chances I know but you have to. You have to pay them and you have to make every diligent effort to pay them okay and if they absolutely refuse the money because we have caller. Id they do do right now. I'm hanging whatever you you'll have to do. The right thing Martha Yes otherwise burn in hell forever. This is forever molly my face okay. The van is GonNa last about five years but hells forever. They say a Martha wherever you are I by. That's the first time that someone from West Virginia Genius the whole state and it's not even the state she lives in. I know as you couldn't even name one city in West Virginia and she had the right right reason. I mean I wouldn't could be my Aymara where I lived. I can't believe that they actually let her drive off. Well she evidently signed some loan thing. Some point linked. Someone's GonNa fight this. This fell this fell behind a desk. 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Sams Garage Radio Talk Show WGKA 5/16/2020

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Sams Garage Radio Talk Show WGKA 5/16/2020

"Good morning. Welcome to Sam's garage. You're listening to his right here on. Am Nine twenty. The answer and toll. Free Number is eight hundred three five three five nine seven this hour. Sam Garage is brought to you by John and Cadillac on Thornton road and let this spring. Excuse me John Chevrolet on Open Road Olympia Springs and John Thornton Cadillac Buick. Gmc trucks in Carrollton find new roads John Thornton dealerships now they specialize in GM certified service. Open seven thirty to six weekdays. Eight to three on Saturdays for your convenience. Gm certified service and a great sales experience. Always had family owned John Thornton dealerships. Check out their website. The Chevy Dealer John Thornton Dot Com and the Cadillac Buick. Gmc DEALERSHIP IS JOHN THORNTON CADILLAC DOT COM and by Detroit spring the finest automotive spring manufactured right here in the USA with American Steel. Check out their website a lot of good information at eight and springs dot com or eating Detroit springs dot com morning. Sam Good Morning. Good Morning. Everybody we're going today to the phone here at toll free eight hundred three five three five nine seven because we have less from waiting and Carson. He was patient to hang onto the break. What do you think Sam? What do you think he's got going on as far as the kids passenger? Yes what what were we talking about before the break regarding the passenger side got getting. He's not getting temperature control on the on the passenger side. And that's you know they did have. There's a bulletin on door temperature door. That comes apart on these things I would like. I was before the break. We're talking about checking the coolant making sure that it is full. Because those heater courses some cases part of it will be warm. Part of it will be cold if you have a local. So that's the first thing and the second thing just like Sam said the air blend door if you have so. Climate control the past airplanes or could be going back to what I would do. Everything turned off. Engine off kion. I cool food. The temperature on the passenger side listening for any movement of a motor or any binding of linkage so that you can see whether the communication getting from the unit to the blend doors sell vacuum operated or electric. No it's electric it's electric. It's all electric. You know you should be able to put his finger right on it because they can do is scan tool up its bidirectional in send it commands and you know it's not. I hear what Sam saying about you. You WanNa make sure you cool level is what the deal but it's a proper level but if you're having the same problem with the airflow not being hot in heat and not being cold in a c. then is an actuated. It's not opening a door or there's some kind of a a problem there and again it's all electric it should troll by the HVAC brain box and computer so this is going to be something and someone's GonNa need to get in and check it out and find out exactly what it takes to fix it but they did have a bulletin on his. This temperature blender the Lincoln. It comes up the actuator but I think that would give me A. I'm just assuming that'd be a problem on both sides but there's to blend door actuators for temperature so if one has gone bad in the pastor side for whatever size it is complaints from could be bad and the other side be fine because it's got off right but here's the thing you don't last you. WanNa make sure when you take it to the dealer. They look up the bulletins I ask. Have they call it technical times volumes and has a bulletin? It's the temperature door actuator link. Now what kind of what kind of a key do you have by the way I'm sorry Monte? Okay I I well this make sure they look up all the bulletins and they're gonNA find you gotta connection problem or one of the actuators has gone bad or Lincoln come upon. That should be pretty easy for them to fix. I do appreciate it. Thank you very money. We appreciate the phone call. Good luck hi Tim. We are toll free at eight hundred three five three five nine seven and go right back to the phones. We got Martin in Marietta where the question about fleet vehicles specifically Toyota Yeras Martin. Good Morning. Good Morning Good Morning Sam The four door version. There's a difference between the two door in the four-door as far as availability. And the question. I think just pertains to the four doors. Regards the Fleet Vehicle Terminology Buffalo? Were they have whether it go ahead? I'm sorry go ahead. What were they available to the general public or are they just sell them the car rental agencies and you know other corporate accounts what. I don't know the answer that do you Sam. Yeah the the Toyota yards. I supercharged one But detail your says been available when they first came out. What year are you looking at Two thousand twelve. Yeah that was available to the to the public much. Yeah but I mean when they say a plea vehicle could've individual person have purchased that or would this be sold on contracts to rental cars and individual. Maybe it was a lico could have been anyone that use it. A DAILY USAGE FOR THEIR BUSINESS. They just label it vehicle. So are you looking at yard? That on the description says sleep nickel vehicle. Well Yeah So. It was part of a company and usually a fleet vehicle has good service records because they want to keep it on the road and that keeps the cost of overall Operation Down. Maybe it's not a bad idea to be looking at that vehicle it's vehicle okay. I like the little one point five engine in their IPAD. It might echo until that got totalled. Yeah I supercharged. One in two thousand five hundred. I don't I don't think it'd be able to handle it. Supercharge I'm old guy? Just like any com- Martin any car. What you WANNA do is get a good pre purchase inspection. Have SOMEBODY CHECK IT OUT? And you know they may have designated the majority of the four doors to the rent. A car fleet could rent a copy. Fleets don't want to cars. They want or no matter how small the car is and know because that way they don't have to differentiate you know people rent a car to get to this complaining so just whatever they can get but Just check it out and do a Carfax on it and see where it was sold and who had it. You know what it was. A rental fleet are went into. You know like a lot of times. People have businesses that they put their their on salesman in cars. That kind of stuff. Okay sounds like a plan. Thank you good luck. I'll less yeah. It doesn't necessarily mean that they had strictly fought fleets right right right that Kia Monte. I liked that. I've always liked to look for that kind even though they still made. I think it's the prettiest card if they made. Yeah that was You know they always have the The genesis to go along with it and the kid named has changed models like they've changed the Monte to a bigger one and have gone Hyundai Kia is trying to make a luxury brand like Lexin Ben. Bmw and they're trying their best with the genesis model. And you know there's a lot of following out for them they're doing a good job But they're they're not using the old school. Mitsubishi Engines are using new engines there some evaporative missions issues technicians. Don't really know how to work on then and diagnose some awfully so But they're good. Cars are just KIA and Hyundai. Always been good power train. Hard and They've always been underrated in my opinion They've had good power train and they last a long time they just don't have the resell value because they don't get the loved it deserves absolutely and you know when you said you just mentioned about people not being up on them technically to how to work on them back to Richard Day from Nebraska and we talked to him about his lexus. Rx three hundred. The Toyota dealer couldn't find anything wrong on. It's gotta check engine light on. That didn't make sense. It did not make sense at all. It says that's a little weird Something to nationwide happened within that dealership or to not be able to find out what's wrong with the car you go to the dealership. San With nobody in that dealership can figure out what's wrong with the car. They make a phone call the factory and they get the answers. They need the tech hotline. Let me ask you this. I'm not familiar enough with that vehicle. Does that have an electronic engine? Coolant thermostat no got all standard thermostat. Bmw's have electronic thermostats not not a lot of new cars. Besides being ws do that okay. I doubt let's talk about engine where we're actually going to be coming up on a break here soon. We'll continue this after the break. There's a test that the auto manufactured worldwide US develop by Peugeot the French car manufacturer. It's called the t you three Am. Where test okay. And then what? What this is is a test that they developed protesting wear on engines with engine. Motorola and you know. Gm uses that test test. The decks used the test their oils fall. Where so what I'm telling you. This is the test developed by an original equipment manufacturer but became a standard in the industry. Nothing is a new phenomenon since we got to direct gas injected vehicles and of course more prevalent on the engines turbocharged it's called L. S. Which is low speed pre ignition because it happens because they got a lot of communism and we'll continue to after the break. Sam's garage be back right after this at seventeen minutes after the hour. Eight hundred three five five three five nine seven. We'll be right back. We had a two thousand ten Chevy Silverado with the five point. Three liter and come into the shop at eighty five thousand miles. A scam check revealed randomness Fai Code. Peo- three hundred. We ultimately determined truck had a combination of carbon buildup. Doty fuel injectors definitely not uncommon for vehicle with that many miles. We put in a cameron be high mileage fuel system. Rejuvenated enjoy the vehicle on the highway for several miles. We also gave the customer a second canned behrman be sixty suggesting that he added at the next Philip. This would help clean the entire people system. Berman be sixty features detergent and has a high energy solvent technology which provides one tank clean up a fuel injectors intake valves carburetor and combustion chambers. It does all she'll residue and carbon deposit to restore lost power reduced rough island hesitation. We Walk Stan requirements and improve overall. Driveability behrman be sixty can also help improve fuel. Economy dispersed moisture and stabilize gasoline. Learn more about Berman. Be Sixty high mileage fuel system rejuvenator and other products vermin products dot com. You're listening to Sam's garage. All automotive parts are not created equal in the Service Bay this week at Twenty Fifteen Mustang. Va Problem with sluggish performance. Poor fuel economy in the dreaded check engine light after performing a visual inspection. We retrieve trouble codes for the left bank. Oxygen sent shorted heated circuit and left bank. Rich fuel mixture condition time a new oxygen sensor. Tobago had almost one hundred and fifty thousand miles in its own. A sheepishly admitted he always used the cheapest fueling could find. Definitely a recipe for failure recommended installing new motocross oxygen centers. The customer agreed so we installed new census cleared the codes and performed a road test to fuel trimmed. Return to normal in the car ran. Great no cope reset another quality repair using motor craft replacement part motor craft parts of specifically designed for all your foreign and Lincoln repairs and backed by limited two year unlimited mileage warranty including up to one hundred and fifty dollars in labor with no commercial exceptions motor craft. Right pot price right. Learn more about motor craft oxygen centers and other high quality vehicle specific part at Motor Craft Dot. 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You're listening to Sam's garage and we are back to work kitsch twenty minutes after the hour here in Atlanta. Thanks for joining us on the Saturday morning. We toll free at eight hundred three five five three five nine seven this hour. Sam's garage is brought to you by a friend at a reilly auto parts when you know when your battery goes dead everything could come to a stop. Don't take a chance on getting stranded O'Reilly Autoparts Test Your Battery for free. And if it does need to be replaced it can help you find the exact battery that fits your car or truck at a guaranteed low price. Make sure you're prepared for the weather ahead. Get your battery tested for free at a reilly. Auto Patch remember O'Reilly auto part better parts better prices every day. By case he'll can stop unexpected cooling system leaks before it stops. You can find case sale at fine part stores nationwide like zone checkout stall website for hours and shipping information and remember. Don't feel it case sale. It was SAM is about this oil test that the Pujo developed amsoil new that fully synthetic actually improves the the wear factor by I think it's a twenty percent but this L. P. L. S. P. I which is spontaneous ignition of the fuel mixture part of that's contributed by oil get into combustion chambers will blow by and the new oils really been formulated to help prevent the possibility of L. S. P. I events that. And if you have this low speed pre ignition you're never going to hear never going to feel it and it can destroy Pistons and connecting rods. That's why you need a properly formulated motor oil. It's critical to protect engine part. So that's an interesting phenomenon. L. S. P. low-speed pre ignition. Let's go to the phones. Let's go let's go talk to Pat. Mt Holly Pat Good Morning. What can we help you with? Good morning good. Morning listened with Great Show. Far Good. Lord. You've had some good calls amazing. Yeah absolutely what can we do as minutes? It's delightful I put it that way. It's been a great day. Y'All got a couple of questions 'cause I'm trying to get my own mountaineer ready for my grandson and some of that stuff. I'm planning to do right now. Just trying to get some knowledge and just one dealerships closed down parts. Parts houses moved down things of that sort. They don't usually keep their inventory. They sell off and there are companies that take that into and they sell it like at a second tier type of market companies. Like that. Who doesn't know I really don't have to top of my head Those guys usually what happens that stuff. That goes off. Sure okay. I know. In Great Britain. They have Parse companies that. He's warehouse type deal and they're sailing different distressed or second tier parts things where people shutdown bankruptcies and going out of business and that kind of thing or locations they sell off all up and they start fresh right There's Never A. That's called the liquidation. When somebody liquidates apart store there are liquidated go in and they purchased this stuff and then they try to sell it. You know they pay pennies on the dollar so they try to sell it a little money on it but I think the majority of that gets shipped up show you know places like Saudi Arabia India. They have a hard time. Getting parts and a lot of that stuff is shipped over. There are very few dealerships and in fact on our show. We've actually had correspondence with mechanics that work and You know Saudi Arabia and they got this General Motors deal is there. But these guys can't get all the information they need You know and they've they've actually contacted us for help. You Know Salmon. I have put stuff together from all data farm. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. That's a shame because I know digging it like in. Britain is a big thing. People try to put on Old Town cutting off card. But you know the the Rolls Royces in Bentleys and people like that and that they'll go back for like twenty percent of the box store price a that'd be helpful if there was somebody that did that now. I understand rock auto does pretty cheap compared to what do you think of that? Rock knockout is a good Selah ahead. Sam what kind of parts are you looking for? Well I'm just I'm just playing here right now. I'm doing the things I need to get it on the road and he'll be able to use it and not worry about know stranded. Nothing's never done that to me. It's been sitting in. I took it on one hundred fifty mile loop the other day and may the long ride over the rain. And that's just been remarkable vehicle. I've had twenty years. We've got a hundred thousand miles on. It's just amazing it's been it's been a real joy. He know when it comes to buying parts. You really gotTa do and gauge the quality of part as to the actual part. What is functioning as for instance? If I was GONNA be putting on a tie and belt kit on a call I WANNA make sure to put a water pump. That's just as good quality as the original so it last as long as the belt. What I've seen over the years is folks will put a less expensive time. Vote Kid on and the water full last. Half the mileage of the Talian built life expectancy so fifty thousand miles. They're doing it again. Its way out of warranty but the people have to spend the money again. And that's where the shop and or individuals who's doing the job should could a good quality part in those places that are needed so talk about Lock Auto. You know yes. Rocco has less expensive parts but in some cases those less expensive parts. Are you get what you pay you know? So yeah if the part is not very important and you can save some money on buying it cool but something like a brake pad or Strut Assembly or water pump. Something that's got a crucial job to do. I would make sure to go to like your local. Raleigh auto parts or anywhere that has good quality parts. That's not the cheaper solder. You know yeah I I know a call Sam earlier this week about I've got to put a radiator in. This is the be the third one in twenty years so it's not too bad. I was checking on a brand. I didn't know SAM new and and we were talking about that and so I'm going to put that brand because it's like Forty percent of the price of oem but still GonNa Falk in a lifetime warranty net. Go Him or quivalent. I real funny about that. I've never been bitten. Even though it may cost more of always been very successful in putting parts on it gave me decent service. So you're paying for you. There's a couple of there's a bunch of these surplus auto parts that you're talking about. The deal is what they usually have. Is they want you to bid on a lot and they WANNA Salat. But there's a place called surplus parts in. They're out in sugarland Texas and they have brands like SMP. Federal PRESTOLITE BE. It'd be wd. Belden and again what they do. The distributors of close out and Supplus autopart. And if it's a brand. Let's say for example. It's a Bosch Pot. Well if it's a real genuine bosch part and it's not a a knock up. It doesn't matter who's got who sells it but the problem with those folks is its liquidation thing. You buy it you own it. There's no taking it back. The warranty you gotta think about that when you start especially if you're gonNA give this kid a car like we talked about the radiator brand you're talking about was Murray which is a big name and air conditioning. Parts and so on. Find it from O'Reilly autoparts gives you a lifetime warranty. Yeah it is Labor to take it in and out but if you have a radiator you buy a brand new and you put it in a couple of years later. He has a problem with it. You just take it out. And if it's the radiated it's bad you bring it back them they give you another one. Sam. Does it all the time all right Sam absolutely especially. If you had done that twenty years ago pat you would have not paid for the last two radiators. No no it radiates different stuff. Twenty years entering the radiant last year and this one nine years so not got it all. We're GONNA go to the bottom of the hour break. Carry yourself say safe kissed the Family Fars It's twenty nine minutes after the hour here in Atlanta Sam's garage right here on. Am Nine hundred ninety. The answer toll. Free eight hundred three five five three five nine seven. We'll be right back with seventy plus. She has experience an automotive repair. Our service team knows what dirty gasoline does inside an engine over time and miles fueled ways to do and hot oil vapors create nasty hardened clusters of carbon that block air flow into cylinders collect on valves and build up inside combustion chambers causing heart starting rough idle sluggish engine performance and bad gas mileage solution. Behrman be sixty high. 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Tobago had almost one hundred and fifty thousand miles in its own. A sheepishly admitted always use the cheapest fueling confined definitely a recipe for failure who recommended installing new motor craft oxygen centers. The customer agreed so we installed new census cleared the codes and performed a road test. The fuel gyms return to normal. The car ran great. No Co reset another quality repair using motor craft. Replacement Part Watercraft Partic-. Sivy designed for all your Ford and Lincoln repairs backed by a limited two year unlimited mileage warranty including up to one hundred and fifty dollars in labor with no commercial exceptions motocross. Right pot price right. Learn more about motocross. Oxygen centers and other high quality vehicles specific parts had MOTOCROSS DOT com. You're listening to Sam's garage and we are back to work here. It's thirty two minutes after the hour. I'm seven Malo with me as my good friend and Coho salmon from Davi motorsports in Sam's garage TV show. Hey Sam Nascar starts live tomorrow. No fans in the stands but nukes railcars row ration-. Wow that's pretty cool. That's a start. Yeah it is. It's the first Major League sports you know thing. We've you know baseball basketball. Football's I mean soccer all that stuff and and It'll be interesting but the financial impact of the the places that are hosting these races. Like here we have Talladega at the big race people come from all over the country and all the surrounding towns all the way over to Oxford. Anniston you know Lincoln Talladega hotel rooms food to people by the ice in the bear and you know couple of three years ago. I walked into a sporting goods place over an Oxford and it was a bunch of Aska guys in there. It was like Friday before the race here in Talladega now. These guys had had a little bit to drink. I think already but that were getting ready for this race. They bought two of those huge. The real big Yeti coolers those are those four hundred and fifty dollars a piece will. They bought two of them and bought a bunch of they bought. You know jazz folding chairs that kind of stuff about the income the millions of dollars to come in from the fans and you know now that NASCAR had this what they call which fake stuff I watched a little bit of it. It was pretty realistic. But I just couldn't it bake basically at home trying to see which one can play video games better than the other and that to me. I mean it might be insurance. Been televised well. They had to do something with the time. And then they got sponsor obligations all that stuff. There's a lot of business decisions that will never know why they were made. But the fact is they go and live tomorrow and there's going to be like seven races in the next three weeks because they're going to run the the makeup xfinity xfinity the trucks in the Cup series. You know but to all of the shutdown had been a big financial hurt now. I did talk with Inane Ian Up there in New Jersey as we and he is slammed he said Sam. I couldn't hire enough people to fix the cars that are in my shop and so some shops if they do good work and they got a good reputation. They're very busy. What's weird is some shops are deemed. Essential and stuff. Shops are not so. I'm seeing here in Atlanta area. Some shops are closed and some shops are not and that doesn't make sense to me. That's gotta be their own choosing because the state governments and the federal government for show of at this most of the state governments have deemed auto repair shops and people that sell tires and all those are essential businesses. People still gotTA drive some an bad tires or they need a brake job or something like that. They gotta get them fixed. So I would think that the there's another reason though shops are closed but you know a lot of people out of work so hard for people to pay for repairs and obviously going to use their credit cards and try to catch up when we go back to work and you know I got a heck out this week. That was a thrill I was so ragged looking. Because I've been cutting my own hair. I've been when I walked. You look good when I watched in. Gal she said this is going to have to be short for me to fix that. So not quite a short is what you have. But I got a short haircut to God. But you know it's good to see some businesses reopening because we still. I don't think we can go in a restaurant yet and I'm not ready to do that anyway. You know I'm just. I'm being very protective because of my age. I'm I'm in a high risk group and I'm going to avoid people but I think it's crazy that we can't go to church but you can go to Walmart Sam's Club Costco or stand in line in any of those facilities you just named back to back down the row parking lot like thirty forty deep and you can't go vote it's crazy it's crazy in the same thing would home depot and Lowe's. I mean they are absolutely slammed with people and and I don't watch people wear masks. And they're not observing the stickers all over the floor stand his they six feet apart. I WANNA be one hundred six feet apart you know what what I think is happening is. We're making everybody feel like they're gross. I've never seen humans. Interact with each other in in like. I feel as if I'm growth like you got plastic between me. You WanNa stay away from me if I come near you. You walk away from me and it's like it makes me feel bad inside like did. I do something that do I smell. What's what's the deal was addition to. That's just me I think. Psychologically bad impact. Well maybe I knew I kind of enjoy it. You know the only part I enjoy the traffic there is no traffic is starting to get back to normal here in Atlanta. Because we've been open for two weeks but the traffic is Is it was nice to not have any hundred miles an hour on every road that now? You're admit the Georgia state patrol. I'm going to give I'M GONNA post your license tag number up on the Internet so they can get you a minute. None of those pictures. I sent you the pictures you see that thirty three Buick. Wasn't that pretty. I have a friend whose name is Larry Whitehead. He does a car show. It's a benefit car. Show for kids with cancer. And it's going on today. It's up there in Athens Alabama which is up by Huntsville. And they're they have almost two hundred cars today really good for them. Yeah and all the money goes and just goes to the show and forever. They've been I. I actually attended to show a few years ago. In fact we're hoping that disc Jockey Joe Scott. He may call us but this is called allies block party car show and they they have it up there in. Huntsville and I went up a couple of years ago and they had probably about one hundred and thirty cars but they had really nice cars. They sell food at Barbecue trailers and TACO trailers people selling popcorn and cotton candy at all of the benefits. All of the money. That's made even the vendor. They give all their money to this allies foundation which is a young man who died from this childhood cancer and they raise money for research so nice job. They're doing a good job. That's very cool. Good to see. The car. Shows backed up because That's my second car my second. Tv shows low cars. You know and I've had to go to these shows and cover them and the last two months has been completely cancelled now. Everything's been postponed. And it's GonNa be a very busy fall and the summer from me but hopefully the car shows that I'm supposed to go attend in and cover four. Get back to normal and back on schedule as well. Yep Absolutely I talked to Brian. Full the other day and asked him about how he's doing he's everything's on hold. They're not shooting hitting either because a lot of sponsors don't WANNA travel send their people in that kind of stuff so it affected a lot of folks. There's no doubt about it. We got to take a quick break. This is Sam's garage. It's eleven forty in Atlanta. Read on East Coast. Hope you're having a great day toll. Free eight hundred five three five nine seven seven. Sam. We'll be right back. Twenty thirteen hundred records stumbled into the shop this week but the check engine light. The big was running around installing. This car had been repaired by another shop. And after a thorough diagnosis we found the vehicle generating a bad signal from the crankshaft position sensor. 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Finish the last segment and do commercial Doug hairs is GONNA come down. We're GONNA do a commercial. You just developed a new hand sanitizer and so we're GONNA do a commercial for that but the low carb thing you know good thing we had to shows in the in the bags and were able to start off and not be too far out of a off schedule as far as the show goes on TV but as far as my filming does were scheduled for sure. Cool but Brian Vogler deal is show is caffeine and Austin and that show has not been going on for free months now because of what's going on so he's He's had to probably. That's probably what's been delayed and postponed his his doing that anymore. Really working for Brenton productions. He's doing two guys garage. I mean no not two guys garage doing Lasantha ago. The other guy left is called car. Fix I think follows host and conflicts. Now really. What's IT GONNA BE? He's building a new body shop to do you know where he is. He's in the Ferrari building up near you someplace. Yeah but I thought he moved once already. Yeah to the Ferrari building. No funny move indicator once. He's had two shops as you've been to Atlanta right right. He had the one in Atlanta. Right off of Molin Avenue. Okay okay. Let's the old F af place that was I think so. It was of International Boulevard way back in the day. Wasn't it you know. I think you're right but I don't know for sure but anyway I'll find out from. He called me the other day. That's why I was talking to me called me. WanNa talk about sprague on these opening the body shop now he's GonNa do full paint and body to wow cool businesses going along. Well he's got a lot of people building cars. I had a good conversation with John. Bela in fact. I'm going to have a muscle car restorations in Chippewa falls right. He's only two blocks from affiliate W. O. G. O. Monday I have a video conference scheduled at ten. Am with him is General Manager the Vice President's company John's a great guy he's got a he lives in Florida Pot of time. And he's got a general manager running his business and you know that's a full restoration. A big big place. They do all the metalwork. The framework they build engines. They got a chassis dyno. They do all the paint and body. They do the interiors. Daunting he subs out his chrome plating. Wow Yeah pretty cool. And I'm going to probably do some videos farm so so travelers out with WHO's going to co host with. Brian actually fix the cars on car fixed. I don't know and I don't care. He asked me and I said I would never work for Brenton production toge- think he would either with the way he left. I thought it was in the same from his mouth. Well I guess the. He decided he wanted to do it. I you know sometimes you get addicted to TV WAY. It is you know. Yeah but let me tell you that I I've been. I've been watching the mile drill. Close my truck. I've now have about seventy eight thousand miles on it. My gas mileage is following up on the highway. I used to get if I was cruising staying the speed limit. Cruise Control at seventy miles. An Hour I would get twenty four to twenty six miles per gallon. The Best I've ever gotten with twenty six which is pretty darn good for four door pickup truck thats four-wheel-drive with a V eight. I I don't I'm I'm only getting on the highway. Now the Best I can get is twenty two. So you know what's changed. I built up carbon in that. Gd I engine. You could say that. I think your fuel pumps leaking and taking a little bit more fuel Breakfast me soon. You'RE GONNA have to rich code. Call ME WE'RE GONNA knock off a fuel pump twenty minutes and then we're GONNA put spark plugs in it while we're in there. That's what I would do a few problem. Yeah all the All the direct injected high pressure pumps for failing Ross board across all makes model for failing German. 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We performed a thorough inspection and found the front pad completely worn out on the driver's side but the passenger side pads looked to be in good shape and we noticed a loose wheel bearing. Why would pad to be worn on? Just one side. It was a sees driver's side break caliber so we replaced the pads and rotors on the front brakes along with the driver's side caliber. We also replaced the passenger side wheel. Bearing patch choice for the repair on. Crap but today's complex vehicles. Not every part works are works well. Wallaby fit and function as a belief system in our shop approved him back by Ford Motor Company. For most non Ford and Non Lincoln Vehicles Homina craft quality. Brake parts will help ensure equal reliability and longevity. Learn more about I'm craft breaks and other Amna crackpots I'm the craft autoparts dot com. I'm the crap autoparts backed by four. You're listening to Sam's garage all right. We're back and it is fifty three minutes after the hour. Beautiful weekend in Atlanta. Next weekend is Memorial Day hope gearing up for that and taking care of yourself. Let's go real quick to in Atlanta and talk to Jim. Go Five Tired of Tundra with a Sun. Roof closed won't work Jim. Good Morning Good Morning. Hello Sam Hello Sam. So the center go ahead. Yeah Might have had like need some gonNA reach that. I've had the battery out repair and replace replacing the while going unnoticed sun roof open I've it both till a sunroof. Click audibly when you try to activate them and I've Pulled that Cover whatever you WANNA call that wiring covering all in the amount of power wire and That's about all I've done okay. So when you hit the switch when you activate the switch can you hear anything I heard you say it. Click I hear a couple year. Click like when you hit the kilt. It up here clicking and or when you try to open it here a pretty loud click like Kinda like a relay trying listening gaijin correct so Does SUNROOF TRY IT TO BUDGE? When you hear that Click does it? Try to try to move at all. Now I don't know if just listen up here now. Put the phone up in the up in a motor area. I don't know if you heard that or not. But there's no movement texted know. How long has this been going on just like I said I did? Some battery switch not use it very much. I say just racing last couple of months but to tell you the truth. I don't use it hardly at all so it could have been before that I'd be checking the function of the motor You are going to have to access the loader in some cases you gotta pull the headliner Dow Or you get the access for the manual override and put your wrench in there and see if you can't manually of make it function just to make sure there no binding or anything to have guns in there and then Diagnosis like that Alliance there could be some junk in you know parking a lot of. Yeah yes. That's what I'd be looking at doing. A good thorough a visual inspection making sure to get all debris out of there and see if you can manually override that sun roof before you go spending any parts or grabbing tools. How'd you get to the Manual on the roof? This should be access hole on the headliner. That should be something like a square panel or even around plug and that round slug or swear panel when you expose it when you take off. Expose the motor and an over right well. I dropped that. I've dropped the you know the cover that's got lights and all these switches and everything. I've dropped that I can see up into the the worst there but I'm not sure where they go. Brian remove the front portion of it say manual crank is usually towards the rear portion of the roof. Oh okay so there's there's a rear light I got you. GotTa move that Rear Light Awesome. Yeah that'll give you access like you may have to drop the headline but you have to do a little bit of research When you taking it Apart Jim. This should be something in your own manual. That tells you about a manual override. Okay I look through there. Couldn't find anything at first glance and I have a You know like a paint shop manual. It didn't have any anything you don't to have permission in okay. So there's I see it now. It's like the inside dome. Light is probably the accent near okay. Great all right a little more diagnosing in college back to the know how you made out okay joy weekend. Thank you too you too buddy. Thanks for the call. That's interesting you know I. I last Toyota sunroof. I worked on a CRESSIDA. Wait a minute don't be. It had a had a little computer that took care of it and it was in the console the Gal on the Karch. Bill Coffee and the consul just short another computer bought the little computer. In there you go. Yeah it's crazy but it is videos. There's videos all over the Internet on how to open and close the sun roof moon roof and the switchboard operated. He can look out of. It's out on his own Emmanuel. You know her. Yeah they give they give you that because if you had an open and it wouldn't close you gotta get close to protect it from the rain you know. Yeah when it comes to Sun repair if it's not just a dumb motor if anything with the track or something plastic as broken. Well we usually do to repair. It is drop the headline replace the whole unit and call it a day because all the little things are so inexpensive and so tedious and hearts of replace you got more money in labor. All righty folks. Well our gone. We'll be back next week at the same time. It's Memorial Day weekend next weekend. Take US OUT. And practice your social distancing umass. Wash your hands. Actually we came from everybody goodbye.

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Boston College Gambling Scheme | The Final Score | 3

American Scandal

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Boston College Gambling Scheme | The Final Score | 3

"Hi You. Can now listen to American scandal on the new wondering APP coming up in the next few weeks is the Boston College basketball point shaving scandal players were bribed to Regan Games to win bets, and it worked until it didn't. The wondering APP is the best place to quickly find and listen to American scandal and your other favorite one ratios download it today and join wondering plus the APP to listen and free. It's the morning of September. Eighth Nineteen Eighty inside a small house on the outskirts, Pittsburgh Rick Kuhn lies stretched out on a bed. It's his childhood bed. There's a poster of Farah Fawcett hanging on the wall. The bedside clock reads six thirty am, but Kuhn is already awake. He woke up early full of nerves and couldn't fall back asleep. Today's a big day for him later this morning. Coons going to propose to his girlfriend Barbara read invite her to go ring. Shopping is anxious for the data start. He's already gotten dressed. A former basketball player at Boston College Koon put on his lucky gold necklace and his favourite Hawaiian shirt then he lay back down on the bed. He takes a deep breath imagining how the day is going to play out right then he hears a knock on. The door sits up coons. Father pokes his head in the room and says there are two men in the living room, wearing suits, and they wanNA word with Rick. Kuhn stares at his dad dumbfounded. Who wants a word at six thirty in the morning? He gets up follows his dad down the hall. When? He reaches the Living Room. Sure enough he finds the men they both have short, cropped hair and stern looks on their faces, and they're wearing nearly identical brown suits comes. Father Hovers nearby. One of the men turn Greece coon morning. Mr Kuhne I'm special agent James Byron. This is special agent Thomas Sweeney I apologized for the early hour, but we need to talk with you about a serious manner he do. What kind of serious matter someone has brought allegations of point shaving involving the Boston College Basketball Team? You played on that team during the nineteen seventy eight seventy nine season correct. All mourn. COON has felt twisted nerve as he's thought about proposing. But immediately, those feelings of afraid replaced by bolts of terror. Point Shaving. How could the FBI possibly about that? Mr Kuhne. Yes I did play on that team. Okay good. We were wondering if you could look at a few photos. Tell us if you recognize any faces. COON glances over his father. Takes a deep breath. Sure, but can we take this outside? Don't need to bother my parents. That's fine. We can talk in the car. Coons mind races as he follows the ages to an unmarked Ford parked at the curb. He figures. If they wanted to arrest them, they'd have done it by now. So this is just an inquiry. He knows he needs to just talk slowly and play cool. Coon gets in the backseat and agent. Byron slides in next to. The other agent gets in front and pulls out a notebook. COON turns Byron Conversation couldn't wait until later in the day. No Michigan I'm afraid not so let's jump right in. I I'd like you to take a look at these photos. coon takes the first photograph. The faces of Rocco and Tony Perla Stare back at him. His heart begins to pound. These two individuals were from this area. We believe you're acquainted with them. Coup not he and Rocco have been friends since high school. There's no point in denying that and this gentleman is Paul maisy and this. This is Henry Hill our understanding. Is that several of the Boston? College Basketball Games were fixed prophet. These gamblers wow really, yes, Mr Kuhne. So our question to you is. What do you know about that? Kuhn looks at the agent then back down at Henry. Hills menacing face. Right away, he starts to think about Barbara and all the plans he had for today. Swallows hard looks back at the agent who is a blank unreadable expression on his face. Raccoon knows he probably won't be ring shopping today after all, maybe not ever. Where exactly this day is headed. He doesn't know, but right now. Signs don't look good. American scandal is sponsored by ancestry. This year marks the seventy fifth anniversary of the Allied victory in World War Two from December seventh, nineteen, forty, one that date which will live in infamy through September second, nineteen, forty, five, when Japan surrendered on the deck of the US Missouri, our brave troops, and sacrificing citizens made the world safe for democracy, fighting alongside them was my grandfather where he stood duty in Egypt India and Borneo captain. George Collins First Ustralian Heavy Regiment in honor of this remembrance ancestry has released a US draft card collection from World War Two with over. Over thirty six million draft cards completed by fighting age men in the United States across the country during that time whether they ended up serving or not, there's a great chance that you could find your relatives in this collection and help you learn more about them uncover personal details like home address, physical description and connect with the veterans in your family who rose to the occasion when the world needed them most discover your untold stories and more head to ancestry dot com slash a s to start discovering your story today. THAT'S ANCESTRY DOT COM slash a S. From wondering I'm Lindsey. Graham and this is American scandal. In the late nineteen seventies, college basketball was home to a lucrative gambling scheme. Mobsters players at Boston College orchestrated a plan one that would change the outcome of games in order to win bets. With a scam took a turn when Boston's players failed to dump a critical game. The gamblers lost big, but didn't take their revenge. Ultimately, the players from Boston, College live to see graduation and the point, shaving scheme seems like a closed chapter. Then the mobster Henry Hill got himself arrested on narcotics charges. He faced a staggering prisons, and so he began to cooperate with authorities offering information about the gambling scheme. The government saw a golden opportunity to prosecute the mob, even if that meant going after young athletes. This is episode three the final. Score! It September eighth nineteen eighty Ernie Cobb walks down a carpeted hallway and slides a key into a door. He opens it up steps into his room at the holiday in North Bergen New Jersey. Complex feel AK. He's tired, but he's also pleased. After today's morning practice at the new. Jersey Nets training camp. COBB changes out of his tracksuit turns up the volume on the bedside radio. Finally. Things are looking hopeful again last year. COPS NBA dreams almost came true when he was drafted by the Utah Jazz, but justice quickly, his hopes were crushed when the jazz cut him during training camp. Now Cobb is close again. He's been shining with the nets. He really got hot and scored twenty eight points in a preseason match with the Celtics and today. The Nets coach chose him for the starting scrimmage. A good sign one that says he'll make the final roster everything. He's worked so hard for seems to be finally coming together. Cobb opens a dark yellow curtains and a flood light fills the room. Feels warm and soothing on his tired body. Almost fall asleep standing up. But suddenly there's a knock on the door. Cobb walks across the room and answers it to men and Brown suit. Stand in the Green Hallway. They raise Golden FBI BADGES IN UNISON MR COM good morning. I'm special agent John Bowe with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and this is special, agent Kirby. Could you spare a few minutes to talk with US talk? What about an incident? We're hoping you may have some insight into. Do with your time at Boston College. Ernie COM freezes. What do they know about Boston College? How did they even find him here? He forces. A smile invites the agents in. How'd you find me? We talked with some individuals at the nets training, facility. Discounts like a punch. If the FBI went to the gym that means the team knows the authorities are looking for him. He can see his MBA chances going up in flames right in front of his eyes. COP sits on a bed agent. Bo takes a seat across from him. The other agent leans against a desk had a paper and hand so agents. How can I help you? Mr Cobb allegations have been made that during your time at Boston College, basketball players colluded with gamblers to shave points on games. Manipulate the final outcome. Cobb faults. His hands in his lap, tries surprise. We'd like to show you. Some photographs see if you recognize any of these individuals. Agent Bo hands over five mugshots. Cobb looks down at them. Immediately recognized as Rocco. Perla the man who asked him if he would fix games, but doesn't let on. Instead he flips pass Rocco like he's a stranger. These guys look like mobsters said. That look you know. These are photos of Henry Hill Paul, maisy Rocco Perla Tony Perla and this last individuals, a man by the name of James Burke to any of these men look familiar. No Sir I don I mean this man. hill. He looks vaguely familiar. Maybe. Talking to someone at one of the Games, but Choosing Hill seems like the smart play. During the season, COBB had seen him talking to raccoon, but cobb himself never spoke to him. Anyone else Mr Com. Know, what thankfully! Sorry I had to drive here for nothing. That's all right, Mr Com now Asian Kirby. Here's going to handle interrogation advice rights for. You could just fill that out and sign it. We have a couple more questions. Wait am am I being arrested or something? No Mr Combat this juncture. We're just gathering information. This document is only to verify that your statement is true. If it's not, you'd be held accountable in court. Ernie Cobb takes the paper and tries to read what it says. Feels like it spinning including the words on the page combines begins checking off boxes one at a time, but there's only one thought on his mind, and that's that he's innocent. He only accepted a thousand dollars and it was for a game. He'd already played. You was a token of appreciation completely after the fact, he didn't fix games. Cobb then thinks about the NBA. The only way to keep his reputation clean as to be upfront and maintain his innocence, he signs and hands, the document over then takes a deep breath. He announces that he does in fact recognized some people in the photographs. The two agents not as they take down his statement compromise that this will all blow over quickly. He's too close to. His dream can't risk it now. It's February. Sixteenth nineteen eighty-one Jim Sweeney sits inside a pickup truck in Trenton New Jersey across from new stand. In his lap is the latest issue of sports illustrated. The magazine just stands today, and the cover has a flashy image, a shower of hundred dollar bills pouring through a basketball hoop. The headline reads anatomy of a scandal. Sweeney's handshake as he flips through the featured article right there on the printed page or photos of himself, his eyes Dart as he surveys the other photos of Rick Kuhn and Ernie Cobb. sweeny stares in disbelief at the articles byline. The piece was written by none other than the mobster. Henry, Hill. sweeny stares dumbstruck here and glossy princes, the entire story about the point shaving scam. The article describes the initial meeting at the Hilton Hotel and continues to the final fateful game between Boston College and Holy Cross. As he reads the story, Sweeney feels weak. Sick even and he thinks back on everything that happened in the last few months. Back in September, he met with federal agents. He was a sweaty mess, and he quickly broke down and told them everything how he learned about the scheme from Recu, how he'd grudgingly accepted money after the Harvard game sweet told the agents that he felt threatened and afraid all season long. When the meeting ended. Sweeney was sure that he'd be fine. He thought he could go back to his life. But this sports illustrated article changes everything. Sweeney carefully reads the article and becomes perfectly clear. He comes across as greedy Hustler. The article says he was fluent and betting and point spreads, and he pinpointed the matches. He could rig. Henry Hill describes him as a liar and a hypocrite, so who tries to look like a choir boy, who's actually a con man willing to corrupt college sports. Sweeney drops the magazine. Out The window he can see shoppers. Buying the same sports illustrated issue from the newsstand. Closes his eyes imagines that millions more across the country are all reading about his alleged deeds. Sweeney lanes his head against the headdress and fights back tears. And he knows then you'll have to do whatever it takes to clear his name. It's the morning of October. Twenty seventh nineteen eighty-one eight months after the sports illustrated article hit the newsstands. Henry Hill Yawns and stretches armed. He's in the back of a Cadillac Deville and wearing a three piece mint green suit. His head buzzes from Valium and two shots of whiskey. Today you. Marshalls are escorting hill from a special underground hotel in Manhattan one that's used strictly for witnesses who require special protection. The Cadillac crosses the Brooklyn Bridge and hill out over his old stomping grounds. He thinks back on the money and thrills. Drugs shakes his head. Now that he's in the witness protection program. All of that have gone. These days hill and his family live in suburban, Cincinnati he a new name and a new life talk about change. Some of his neighbors have never even tasted Marinara sauce hill is a nobody living on a government stipend of what feels like pennies, so who can blame him for accepting ten grand from sports illustrated. They wanted to tell about the Boston scam, and that's what he delivered. The government prosecutor McDonald had been lifted, but he'll doesn't know how else he can scrape together some money now that he's rat and naming names, and even though he's in witness, Protection Hill is still on edge. The Cadillac heads deeper into Brooklyn and Hill can't help. Scrutinize every passing car. He keeps imagining it vividly. Every driver veering over pulling out a pistol Lord knows Jimmy. Burke wants him dead badly enough. But up ahead, he'll sees the united. States District Court House car pulls past a crowd of news reporters and cameramen all air for the trial. Then the carpools into an underground parking lot. He'll steps out and a half a dozen Marshall. Surrounding their faces are grim. Their firearms ready. Shuffle him into an elevator, and then they step out into a cavernous courtroom that's overflowing with. At the far end of the room sits the judge, Henry Brumwell Hill doesn't like the look of him. Brian was looking down frowning at his notes seemingly unimpressed by the massive. Yeah. He'll knows a tough disciplinarian when he sees one. He sighs and looks over to where the defendants and their lawyers are huddled. He immediately recognizes familiar faces. Rick Kuhn the Perla brothers and his own prison. Buddy Paul maisy. But there's one more defendant whose back is turned hill. He's in a conservative grey suit like one of the lawyers, and as if on cue man turns and locks eyes with Hill. It's Jimmy Burke. Hill has played this moment thousand times in his head. He's tried to imagine how you'd face his murderers old friend. But nothing could prepare him for this moment. burks call gaze of contempt. It's hill like a mallet. Whatever resolve he wants had is now gone in. Its place is a feeling of feebleness and terror. He'll drops his eyes. He's chosen betrayal over death, but right now as he suffocates under the weight of burke stared. He wonders whether it might have been less painful. Cross, the courtroom Rick Kuhn Watches as Henry Hill is led to a seat behind the prosecutor. Coon sits between Tony and Rocco Perla today. The basketball players looking sharp, wearing a new baby blue three piece suit. He hopes it makes him look out of place among all these monsters. COON glances around the packed courtroom. He's still can't understand how he ended up in federal court. It takes a deep breath repeats what his lawyer told him he has little to worry about. His lawyer said that this whole trial is really about Jimmy Burke in the Lufthansa. Heist coon is just upon as the government pursues the mobster. The best legal strategy then is to sidestep all the nitty gritty legal definitions instead they need to focus on the issues of government, overreach and exploitation. They WANNA take down Jimmy. Burke coon doesn't deserve to be caught up in the crossfire. Coon phrase that this is the right strategy he watches. All the lawyers in the courtroom shuffled their papers getting ready to make their opening statements. Swallowed hard and repeats the same thing. He's told himself for days. There's nothing to worry about. He's GonNa. Leave this trial a freeman. AMERICAN SCANDAL IS SPONSORED BY STAMPS DOT com. We're all doing things a bit differently. 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McDonald turns the defense table and look to the middle aged man in a grey suit McDonald's back grin? Finally! He thinks he's brought the notorious. Jimmy Burke into a courtroom. McDonnell knows in his gut. That burke was a ringleader behind the Lufthansa Heist. He just couldn't find proof of it. Especially, not with Burke killing off every witness, but now MacDonald has a way to get to the infamous mobster. He admits the case is unsavory in order to gather evidence against Jimmy Burt. McDonald had to let Henry Hill Walk free a bitter trade off, but it's all in service of the larger claws. Donald looks over at Judge Bram. Well who sits on the bench and stiff dark robes. The jury will decide whether the men are innocent or guilty, but bramble alone has the power to choose the sentencing that means McDonnell has to make his case to brain well too, and if he successful, the judge will send burke to prison for the rest of the monsters life. McDonald's gathers up his papers rises and crosses the courtroom. Crowd begins to settle by the time. MacDonald reaches a jury box. The Room is hushed. There in front of the jury. McDonald's silently praises the twelve men and women finally he holds up his papers. These he tells jurors are eight pages of indictments against the men seated at the defense table. It's a case of conspiracy McDonald. Reminds jury. He doesn't need to prove that. These men were successful and fixing every game. He only needs a show that the men conspired to do so. McDonald turns, and points at the Co defendant seated across the room, and then looks back to the jury. As is solemn. He tells the jury that this isn't just about breaking the law. It's also a case of greed, corruption and disloyalty. These men are the worst of criminals. He says and they tried to Destroy College Sports. McDonald gazes across the faces of the jury. There is alert and focused. He has their attention good. He thinks now he needs to hold it through the next couple of weeks just long enough to achieve his goal. Finding Jimmy Burke guilty on all counts. Just before four PM. That same day ED McDonnell once again rises from the prosecutor's table. It's time to call his first witness. Heads turn as a wiry man and bright green suit approaches the stand McDonnell weights, says the man Henry Hill is sworn in. Donald can see hills is dancing around the room. He looks nervous squeamish and he's avoiding eye contact with Jimmy Berg who sits stonefaced staring at his former friend and associate. McDonald quickly goes to work. He Asks Hill to tell the full story and to explain how Jimmy Burke was involved in all it. As head carefully lays out the details. He describes meeting Paul Maisy in prison. Locked up because of a job that he did with Burke. Hill explained that once he got out of prison. He maisy cooked up the point shaving scheme at Boston College. He'll then pauses and looks away we donald grows nervous. This is a bad sign. This is the key moment on Henry. Hill can bring together the entire case. Implicate Jimmy, Burke. McDonald catches hills is and gives him a strong encouraging nod he'll avert his gaze, takes a deep breath and looks back up. He goes on to describe the day. He traveled to Robert's lounge. In Queens New York City in the basement of the bar. He and other men met with Jimmy Burke together. They got birth to finance the bats for the point. Shavings game and Burke provided a network of bookies which was Keith the whole plan. McDonald pauses quickly steals a glance at the jury. Can tell they're hooked. The crimes are obvious and now not only are all five defendants tied together. But there's no denying that Jimmy Burke was in the center of it all. It's the afternoon of November second nineteen eighty-one five days into the trial. Rick and takes a seat at the defense table today. He's wearing a chocolate brown corduroy suit at the Lapel, trying to calm his nerves. He's been waiting for this day since he first saw the list of witnesses this afternoon as former best friends taking the stand. Across the room prosecutor Ed McDonald rises and ask for the next witness. Jim Sweeney emerges from the back of the courtroom. You walks to the witness, stand in a blue pinstripe suit, holding his back straight and his head high. COON stares at Sweeney waiting for him to look over what Sweeney's eyes remained locked McDonald as he takes a seat and sworn in. McDonald begins by walking Sweeney through the highlights of his Boston College career his basketball awards and impressive GPA. His volunteering with a local church coon roses is sweeney then talks about his wonderful new job in his recent marriage to his college sweetheart. Lucky him thinks coon. The golden boy just keeps on winning. McDonald paces back and forth at the front of the courtroom Jim. Would you mind describing to the court how you first heard of the point shaving scheme of course? I was at the Boston. College Jim we just finished basketball practice. Rick followed me out and started talking with me. You're referring to rick, Kuhn. Sweeney nods. Still won't look over at. Stead has is remained fastened on the attorney McDonald Yes Rick Kuhn. You mentioned that friends of his wanted to bet on our games. He said it could be beneficial to us if we help them out. Help them out meaning what shaving points keeping score down. That's correct. And what was your response to Mr Kuhne at the time I told him that's illegal, and I don't want any part of it. Kuhn's eyes pop open. See Serious. Sweeney didn't turn down the proposition at best he was ambivalent. That's how coon new that Sweeney could be brought in Okay Jim. Let's address the elephant in the room. There's a sports illustrated article that paints a pretty unflattering picture of you beginning with your introduction to Henry Hill a Hilton hotel. Can you speak to that? Sweeney not. Describes how coon lured him to the hotel, pretending they were having dinner with Eagles fans. Then, coon, his friend immediately disappeared that meant he was left alone with Henry Hill. At the defense table coon clinches his fists. Sweeney is clearly scapegoating him and when Mr Hill proposed the point shaving scheme. What was your response? I I said I didn't want to do it. And then I agree to cooperate. Why would you someone with so much going for him? Agree to that. Was it the money. No, sir, money's never mattered to me. COON nearly starts laughing. Did Sweeney just he wasn't interested in money? He seemed plenty interested when he was buying jewelry for his girlfriend using cash that Kuhn had given. I was frightened. Mr Hill threaten me with physical violence. Somehow he knew the name of my girlfriend more. The woman who is now my wife. I felt threatened I felt scared. Ended Rick Kuhn ever. Give you money. Here we go. Thanks Kim Lie your way out of this one. I wouldn't say give. He shoved five hundred dollars at me after the Harvard. Game I told him I didn't want. He said he was too late and basically tossed it at. Sir I I know it was wrong to take that money, but rick was threatening to. And I was afraid of what would happen if I didn't take. COON shakes his head. listens to Sweeney describes the rest of the season. He says he only pretended to go along with the scheme that makes coon WANNA. Yell at the top of his lungs. Sweeney's testimony is wall-to-wall lies. You must have made some deal with the FBI away to stay on a prison. If he said what they wanted him to Mr Sweeney before I. Let you go, I. Just want to ask if you have been testifying under any agreement from the United States, government. Rick's face slowly starts creeping up into a smirk. In spite of himself now choirboy will have to admit. He sold his friends down the river to avoid getting in trouble. No, Sir there was never any charges brought up against me. I'm under no obligation to say what I've said. Then coon smirk vanishes. It dawns on him. His old friend didn't have to blame him for everything. Sweeney is taking him down by choice. Colm stairs, Sweeney as steps down from the witness box but Jim. Sweeney never so much glances over. Instead, he straightens his pinstripe suit jacket walked out of the courtroom. It's November, Eighteenth Nineteen, eighty-one. Inside the courthouse in Brooklyn Ed McDonalds at the prosecutor's table and prepares his closing statements. He spent the last two weeks painting a vivid picture of these criminals actions still not that matters if he doesn't score a guilty verdict for Jimmy, Burke today is his last best chance to sway. Any member of the jury is still on the fence. McDonald's stands and walks to the jury box. Looks them over has faced stern authoritative. He begins addressing the twelve men and women of the jury, saying that he attended Boston College and played on the Eagles basketball team. It was one of the greatest chapters of his life, and that's because he learned the spirit of good sportsmanship and fair play. That's at the heart of college sports. McDonalds, a couple. Jurors give us slight not. A good sign you pointed the defendant voice, rising to these men McDonald, says such values me nothing the only thing they care. Is Making money. McDonald's step away and walks up to Jimmy Burke he returns a mobster stony. And then he turns back to the jury and continues. McDonald's explains the College Sports is a sacred thing, and these men tried to destroy. What makes it so special? They couldn't be satisfied with horse racing or fixing boxing matches. They had to take their dirty money to a small Jesuit College in Boston. They had to meddle with kids. Today MacDonald argues the members of the jury can take a stand. They can defend the sanctity of college sports. They can deliver a guilty verdict. MacDonald. And thanks to jury with that. The prosecution rests McDonald knows he's played. His best possible game with the Final Score is in the cherries handsome. American! Scandal is sponsored by simply safe. When I first got my simplisafe security system many years ago, one of the first things I noticed was that it had a single arming button. My previous system forced me to put in my code to Armitt. Why a single button push is so much simpler, and then the reason for the name simplisafe became obvious, simply safe was designed to be easy to use while protecting your whole home twenty four seven order online with the click of a button open the box placed. The sensors plugged in now your whole home. Home is protected. 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Twelve strangers are deciding his fate. COON malls over the charges that were brought against him on account of bribery. He's confident he'll be found innocent. His lawyer said as much. It's another charge Kunas worried about conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering. Wants more complicated and a guilty verdict would mean he'd have to face sentencing and time in prison. COON TURNS ROCCO PERLA. Who Sits beside him? His old friend looks just as nervous. COON tries to make some conversation to put them both at ease. I still can't believe Jim Sweeney. He doesn't have one single charge against him. And I have three explain that to me Rocco. Well Rick McDonald wasn't after you. Use after the mob, the only needed. One of you guys to make the connection. And well sorry wreck, but your whole lot easier to prosecute than that poster boy. When I get out of here, I'm going straight over Sweeney's I swear. Her La- smiles notions his mouth to speak. But just the on the jury room door swings open. COON watches the jurors file into their seats. Without saying a word, the forewoman remained standing. COONS heart starts to pound his breath. Go Shallow. And he feels a hand on his shoulder. He turns and Finds Pirlo with a look of shock on his face Oh. My God why four. Their hands. They're empty empty. Yeah, there's no list. She's not reading any indictments. COON stairs baffled. He sees judge. Bram well leaned forward and address the forewoman as jury reached its verdict. Yes, your honor we have. That's when Kuhn finally realizes why Rocco Perla looked so pale and shaken. There are multiple codefendants in this trial. They've got enough chances to fill an eight page list. The forewoman couldn't possibly remember who's innocent and WHO's guilty of which charges? And less. And less. There aren't going to be any individual verdicts. Them will either be found innocent or guilty of every single charge. The judge asks all the Defense Stand The forewoman clears. Her throat makes her pronouncement. For All the codefendants on all counts her answers the same guilty. Raccoon stands feeling like his legs are sinking into the ground with this sentence. He's been thrown together with lifelong drug dealers and Jimmy Burke a murder. The judge looks over the defendants and announces that sentencing will be deferred. COON will return to court in February. Coon stairs in a day is at the harsh phase of Judge Braille. His future now rests completely in this man's hands. With a sharp rap of the gavel. Trials done. It's February. Fifth, one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty two, and about two months after the trial today, raccoon is back in federal court for his sentencing. He's trying to look his best today. Cleaned up his mustache and put on a brown three piece suit lucky outfit. Coon looks around the courtroom. The jury box is empty and there are fewer onlookers and reporters, and there were at his trial, but for coon. The stakes are higher than ever. Day He'll learn whether he's going to jail, and if so for how long. One, person determines his fate. That Man Judge Henry Brumwell sits on the bench, reviewing his notes. Solitary court. Reporter sits below and waits. Comes, parents sit beside him. He also sits alongside his lawyer. Who insists there are reasons to be optimistic? COON has no criminal history. Because of that, the lawyer says he'll probably receive probation in the worst case he'll get a few months. Jail. Time plus community service. F- lawyer points across the room where Ed McDonald. Prosecutor is seated, waiting even McDonald, expects a light sentence. Lawyer says before pattern coon on the shoulder. COON hopes his lawyer as right, but still the uncertainty has been a nightmare these past two months. has barely been able to eat or sleep. Let alone talk with anyone. He's almost relieved to be here today. If nothing else will be able to get on with his life. Finally Judge Bradwell nods at the bailiff and Kuhn is asked to stand. The court reporter lifts her hands, said stereotype machine. Kuhn rises alone. Judge lays out the charges. The coon has been found guilty then pauses staring down at the twenty six year old. Swallows and holds his gaze. In a clear voice judge Bram well announces that Rick Kuhn Sentenced to ten years in prison. There's a murmur from the small crowd. A sharp gasp from coons. Mother Constanza frozen confused. He must have heard the judge incorrectly. He looks to his lawyer. Whose face is Ashen. Glances to his right even Ed McDonald governments. Merciless prosecutor seems completely baffled. COON looks back to the judge Brumwell repeats that Kuhn will serve a ten year sentence. He'll serve it as an example to all those players who may be tempted to accept illegal money for personal gain. Coon feels weightless, confused dizzy. He drops back into a seat. He repeats to himself this unthinkable fact he'll spend the next decade in jail. Future just evaporated before his eyes. It's two years later on March twenty third nineteen eighty-four Ernie Cobb enters the US district courthouse in Brooklyn dressed a new blazer and tie. It's the final day of his trial for point, shaving and today. He'll here the jury's verdict. Inside the courtroom Kabul's over the audience. He ceases mom and dad sitting together with his girlfriend burn. His family believed him when the sports illustrated, article was published in. Cobb insisted he was innocent, but most people had not. Among those who did not believe him were the New Jersey Nets the team's head coach. Some incumbent whose office just days after cop spoke with the FBI, the coach broke the bad news. Com was being let go. After that, no NBA team would touch him. Calm wasn't charged in the Jimmy Birch trial and he thought he was finally passed the whole affair, but he quickly found that his name was tainted, who was hard to find a job and the ad to make a living selling copy machines paving driveways all while being snarky by one NBA team after another. But finally his fortune took a turn for the better calm got a chance to play professional ball in Israel, and was quickly recognized as one of the best players in the league. Once again, he began to dream about a future in the NBA. So in the summer of Nineteen eighty-three return to the US for a visit that's when he was charged with taking cash bribes as part of a scheme to change the outcomes of Boston College Games and once again, there was a mobster associated with trial this time it was a mafioso name Paul Vario Jimmy boss combine never even heard of the guy, but he could see that the government was just repeating what they've done. With Rick Kuhn Cobb was upon in the prosecution of another mobster. Inside. The courtroom Cobb takes a seat alongside his lawyer. In spite of the odds against everyone's advise. COBB insisted on having his day in court. He refused to take a plea deal in return for reduced. Sentence. His goal was to finally clear his name. At eleven thirty am the jury files is the courtroom Cobb stands after a long silence. The forewoman finally speaks. She barely gets out the words not guilty when coblets out a whoop and the rest of the courtroom breaks out in cheers. Ernie COBB is exonerated of all charges and Vario is acquitted as well. COBB and braces his girlfriend and family members as a hug and cry Cobb is filled with joy the courses through his entire body. It's finally over. He thinks. And yet deep down a small voice tells him otherwise. No matter how far Cobb gets from Boston College. It will never chew be over. After his acquittal Ernie Cobb attempted to pursue his NBA dreams, but no team would allow him to try out. He returned to Israel to play professional basketball for another seventeen years. raccoons ten year sentence was later reduced four. He was released from prison in nineteen, eighty six and return to Pittsburgh Jim Sweeney lives in Florida with his wife Maura he still maintains his innocence in the point shaving scandal. Jimmy Burke whose criminal acts went back more than three decades was sentenced to twenty years. He was never charged in the Lufthansa Heist, and the stolen cash was never recovered. Burke died in prison of lung cancer in Nineteen, ninety-six. Henry Hill was granted full immunity from all charges and put into witness protection. He was later kicked out of the program, though for repeatedly breaching security in one thousand nine hundred ninety hills, notoriety reach new heights with the release of the Martin Scorsese Film Goodfellas. In which Ray Liotta portrayed hill and Robert Deniro played Jimmy Burke. In Two thousand twelve, he'll die of heart disease in a Los Angeles Hospital NC Double A. Rules continue to prevent colleges from paying their athletes, but as of the spring of two thousand twenty, the Association is considering a change to its rules to allow athletes earn money from third party endorsements. The stiff penalties handed down to Rick Kuhn were intended to send a message to would be fixers, but the subsequent scandals had Arizona State to lane northwestern to name just a few suggests that the message didn't get through. Next on American Scandal I. Sit Down with Dan. Murphy and investigative reporter at Espn who covers college sports. We'll look at the many scandals involving college athletes and money. We'll discuss how new rules could allow these athletes to profit from their work and drastically change NCWA sports from wondering. This is episode three of the Boston. 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Episode 297: Mary Kay Pink Cadillacs (Entry 762.2K0930)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

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Episode 297: Mary Kay Pink Cadillacs (Entry 762.2K0930)

"This message. We Are Jennings and John. Rodrick, we speak to you from our present, which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century. During the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization. We began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica that would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or have just reinvented the technology to decrypt our transmissions, this is our legacy to you. This is our time capsule. This is the. Paired. You have accessed entry seven, six, two, two, zero, nine, three, zero. Certificate number two, nine, two, six, six. Mary Kay. Pink cadillacs. We were in Glacier National Park last week you know with the kids. Yeah. You and I barely remember a little getaway. Well, it was a pretty wild week. We melted all the glaciers. Must. have been eaten appleton cutlets and they don't have apple. You know what they have there in. Glacier. Glacier let's and. Sh ringlets. They have hawks what are hooks huckleberry country. Hustle huckleberry based economy lifestyle aesthetic. It's hard to overstate the importance of into. Western Montana. I think I mean not not in Cova Year right. There's gotTa be huckleberry Parade Huckleberry Huckleberry Hound. Sure. They huckleberry cannot be domestic domesticated is. True I think. So I don't know if that's true. No. Are there are there wild huckleberry that used to surround our tents until we got them to watch our flocks? Did we talk about health of areas in the in the inboard isn't very episode What Acuna gaping hole in our very knowledge I do feel like domesticated is the word you cannot domesticate huckleberry investigate corn you. I'm looking for wild corn is what I'm looking for I. Guess what I mean is commercially cultivated. Yeah. Maybe that's not the same as domesticated. I think we're on the same planet varies as line not I have no idea I think they need. These. They need they got a natural forest environment and maybe it's just inefficient is to try to so they have to be forged basically. So. Every late army of bears has been domesticated. You're fighting you're fighting the bears like the the bear we saw we drove in the gates of glacier on our first day there, and the kids are all excited to see wildlife I'm like sometimes you can't. You don't see the wildlife and there's A black bear like right by the big the big photo sign just like looking for delicious on. The Bar, and sometimes the bar sees you Yeah. I killed me a bar was only three That's that's a crime now in the state of Montana. So to kill a bar yeah, they're protected. We we actually did see a grizzly with a bunch of cubs onto. Yeah. And people are crowding around taken flash photos. I was like this is going to go badly. Photos did have a CODA chrome had the giant camera with they're holding a flashing their right hand. And the bears aren't covering its is so where people getting out of their cars trying to get closer to the bear traffic stopped both ways on the road. Here's what happened the park. There was a piece in the Washington Post last week ended about the travails of Glacier National Park. The blackfoot reservation decided not to open decided to close their borders during covered basically. Yeah, which is not. Crazy the re reser just getting devastating. makes. Good sense to me, and you know their culture is to protect the elders. You know that's that's who would you know if if the tourist continue to sweep across the blackfoot reservation that's who get sick. So unfortunately. That means you cannot get into the eastern side of Glacier National Park, which is now essentially a shoebox Diorama I. See with one end open to Idaho and then closed back and so you have to do the loop and go back out through Idaho. There's not even a loop there's one road. In the Twenties and thirties they just blew. It's have you ever been to glacier never this? It's it's gorgeous by the way I got out of the car at one point and jaded seventeen year olds. He's like are you seeing this and I was like what in? The. Mountains. Couldn't believe what he was saying got him to look up from skyrocketing. Real skyer him. then. He went back and played more scattered. So you get to the end, there's a cul de sac, and so there's this one road that goes across the park, which normally would connect west glacier and east glacier glacier is the reservation and is the borders are closed parks analysis just not gonNA Open. So while we were there, they finally got this road plow enough because it's this insane v-shaped glacial valley where in the Twenties and thirties with twenties and thirties technology, they just had to go through and just try to dynamite allege into these sheer cliffs. And I think it was mostly for the railway the great northern railway needed to go through there. But they also built all these beautiful kind of Ski Chalet Style Grand Old Hotels on the lakes. So does it come? Where does it come out? Is it come out around where? Where is the blackfoot reservation? This is all north of. Yellowstone John's are kind of south south right like. You know the top of yellowstone is in Montana but just barely. In jail. So this is north all the way to the Canadian Border Glacier National Park sexually the world's first international peace park because it's got this little Canadian Adjunct I see Waterton Glacier Park or something that sticks up across the border can you get to it? Can you get to the Canadian part from the park generally? Yes, now currently with the border closed. Down, so it's a perfect representation, one of those population maps of of North America where suddenly candidates this little tiny hat sitting on big America. That's why glacier national park looks like. It's It's it's whatever those sub ranges of the rocky mountains are called. Saw Tooth Sir something. It is the Louis Rain Show Lewis for and some other range, but it's it's all the way north. So it's by callous spell. Yeah. I mean it's Nice. There's like there's enough kind of fly fishing and other tourism there that there's like forty five minutes away Lewis and Livingston Ranges. So there's a big city with a with a costco on a target forty five minutes away but that's nice. We just did an cabin right by the park we decided not that we had this trip planned all year and we decided look if we just do it as a road trip stay in this cabin you know we're any bigger of Kobe footprint than. Anybody, else. I used to go skiing at Schweitzer, which is up there. Sort of north of sandpoint. But I guess you're in Idaho United Oh. Yeah. It's a couple hours across the border, but it's it's surprisingly close to Seattle like I was amazed at what to do about attributed. Even with stopping for lunch gas, you can do the driving nine hours. So we got back last night at six. But So the blackboard have closed this. So this road where these beautiful vistas and overlooks are just kind of ends at at the little kind of mini mini mall can be in store town on the east end of the park, and then you have to you know there's a town called. Jenin's is that right in Idaho? Montana Jennings Montana I didn't go see my. Right there next to Libyan highway thirty seven I'm looking at the map now in the Kootenai national forest, it's where we were I. Think. I thought Jennings Montana was like Joe Montana's? Butler Butler brother. You're. Dishonest. And so this road had been closed to snow plus so the the bears were just used to walking up and down at I. Think. Yeah. So we just drive up and everyone's freaking out traffic stop both ways because. Mama grizzly bear in two two cubs just kind of stomping right next there and of course, the ranger comes up like what are you idiots do it everybody one hundred away from the bear and she moves people just kind of like water. Flow back to an another place where they can dangerously see the bear. People who die Baird deserve it. Growing up in Alaska a lot you know a grizzly bear appears to be fairly lazy and slow moving. Like. approachable even but it turns out, it's conserving energy to strike it can it can exhibit a burst of speed? It's been all those huckleberry that's been eating. It can metabolize all that huckleberry sugar and then suddenly like. Faster than I can meet, it'll have a fly in its. Blackberry you can mess with all day. I, highly recommend just go up and Polka with the stick just just try and try antagonize it. It can't do anything this. It's claws plastic. Advice to the of. You see a bear if you're listening to this program and you can, and you can tell that it's a small bear go up and have some fun. Go kick it it. It's coke kids full laughs. Love it they love it. They like to play it wants to be kicked but a grizzly bears craved stay away danger. Isn't it Turkey? In that some black, there's are colored Brown and maybe some brown bears colored black you know there was a black bear. For a long time in the Anchorage Zoo that. That they captured in Juneau. Because he kept coming down out of the mountains into the town, use the IT and. He was blue. What he was a black bear who had a kind of There was a sheen to his coat and he really looked. Blue like like. Silver Blue but but not silver, very blue and he was so fascinating I think they they captured him in in Juneau and do all the time and they would have just repatriated him to some forest ten miles away except he was blue and so. They couldn't. Be Bullied and It's like the balloon with a broken leg. You can't just release that they didn't a huge favor which was put him in a twenty by twenty cage and the Anchorage Zoo through popcorn and for thirty and every resident of Anchorage went by and looked at him. He was beautiful there was. Was it a sad cement thing or did you feel like at least he has a Nice Anchorage Zoo at least when I was growing up was really felt like one of those. Hawk zoos where there was a guy that had a there was a guy that that one Allama at the state fair and he built a fence around it. Didn't. He bought like like a like a merry go round. Off the. Back of a truck and then but but honestly, we had an elephant there. And one of Alaska's few elephants and it was an elephant that did the did watercolors like a full-on elephants. One of the great elephants you know and then elephant, but it was really easy to fill it to fill zoo with bears Moose wolverines. because you could just kind of walk across the street and shake a tree and a wolverine would fall out of it. So. It was an interesting zoo that's the one with the with. The bear that some kid went over the fence and? pinkie grabbed him and shook him by the peanuts and. Like his his bats or is that a euphemism? He shook him by his euphemism. And and then the kid'll lost a shoe or something and blinky walked around in the in his enclosure. With this high top tennis shoe in his mouth for a couple of weeks and they couldn't get it away from him. That's our. It was a super bad look for the zoo. Because everybody you know everybody knew that this this kid got and and the kids still there the bears just bleeding. Kids skeleton is their fair there everyone wants to see. and. Steve skeletal no Pinky pinky kept feeding the kid for awhile broke both his legs. While we were in glacier. There was. It felt a little bit crowded because everyone's kind of crammed into one corner of the park and you had to kind of you to make some effort to stay away from crowds which. Seems like a good place to go in quarantine. It wasn't never crowded crowded. It was just more than usual summer even though there were like fewer people than injury summer. Because you couldn't turn around. Yeah, we So, we kept seeing the same cars in the parking lot some. Some car that said for sale and a phone number even though there's no RV. So get to know these people and you call the number I didn't. Should I announce it on the show you get to know these people I mean, really you know we all just got to know each other. Have you ever been on the tourist trail somewhere and like seeing the same people at? The people you see at the you also see at lunch or No this never happened. You know I was at Disneyland Heroes in the same line with the Salvadorian kids for whatever reason like early on in my life I resolved never to be a tourist and it's it's it's a kind of a problem like mentality problem a certain kind of person like I'm not going to be a tourist and so. In order to not be a tourist you. Routinely, have to make a choice between. Do I see the cool thing. And brisk being a tourist or instead do I go like stand behind a dumpster and have lunch covered in rats and pigeons in order to continue to enforce this kind of anti-tourism? Like like sort of hair shirt. My brother has that the self, the self conception of himself as a tourist is too much to bear even if it means not seeing the Eiffel. Tower, and so I, over the over the last thirty years, I've made so many decisions to wear in order to avoid being a tourist I did not I've never been to glacier I've never been to yellowstone Because I was just like a wilderness John Those are mountain I don't WanNa. Go to yellowstone with a bunch of what does he yogi bear in there with the with his you know like ribbon dubourdieu like I don't Wanna I don't WanNa sleep next to a trash can and so I've never been. And and it's dumb, right like like It's a pretty good. Those places are now for a reason, it's not just like wall drug or something the only time of ever been to the Louvre I actually was. I was dressed all in black and I roped in after hours. You come in upset. You've only seen the Mona Lisa upside down I thought he was frowning I was there. I was just there to steal diamonds did take a look at some of the other paintings. Does. Good to make the time. Among the cars we kept seeing over the memorable ones, you only remember the guy with the dented bumper or whatever we kept seeing this kind of pearly. Whitish. Cadillac Crossover. And grossly mean like. Yeah like like a, you know what a crossover is like some weird hybrid between the boys and Barry of station wagons. ESCALAD, but it's got a pickup truck. In the rear Party in the front business in the back, it looks like a station wagon with A. Problem or a SUV owned by somebody with a small garage ICS. Okay. Like this middle, it's like the most popular car segment in America Right. Yeah, we call them we call them soups. And you never bought assume soon Volga I've been thinking about buying a Suva lately but but but but don't let me interrupt your story I. Think we are also switching to crossover we're aging out of many events. So this this car is this weird kind of whitish color where it looks different in different. Lesson maybe like your yeah, it's it's per lessons. You've seen the cars that the thing where it's like some batmobile color where it looks. Purple from one side and then you walk by and it's slightly green like it's this is super hot. That that's a that's a that's a deluxe double sided paint job. They do let putting some kind of metallic flakes in the paint and it has more layers than any normal. Car Paint Job Yeah. I think it's fifty fifty layer candy flee ugliest but it's it's fun for a second. It's fun to walk by the owner must be annoying. They've taken one for the team. Not Sure, what team. Walk Nobody asked him to take. My car once and you'll be delighted and the kids were like, what is this color? Because it kind of looks whitish looks kind of. From the other side and we saw under the. Under the Little Cadillac Shield Silver Cadillac Shield on the side at the base of the. Driver and passenger side door. It said Mary, Kay. Mary. Kay was able to explain were you able to explain? What. Well, in general terms, I was able to say if you sell a lot of make up to your neighbors or more accurately, make your neighbors sell a lot of makeup to their neighbors and so on exponential fashion. You get one of these but I didn't actually know that much about it now growing up. And I'm never clear of the timeline but you moved to Korea at what age seven at seven and he stayed there until high school. And so did you have Mary Kay? CADILLACS in Korea. No. No. There are as an international company row in areas where it's allowed. But no, this is something I would have kind of like almost everything else about American culture just kind of absorbed through. Sidelong Sitcom references and mystery science theater riffs. But someone my age actually would have seen these bubble gum pink the Mary Kay cars were. And this was even in the seventies when cars had unusual colors avocado and whatever mustard those weren't even unusual at the time those were. Blue Weird because you had to get avocado or mustard avocado and mustard is how they came off the off the assembly line and then you could paint them blue with house paint one day Henry Ford the third was eating avocado and mustard sandwich although you could get a Ford. Torino in Sky Blue for for a period in the seventies but it was sky blue it wasn't any kind of blue you would want like really Brennan powder but these pink cars I mean the only people that had pink cars were Elvis and liberace and yet every town had There was generally depending on what part of town you lived in. There was a Mary Kay car that was like your Mary Kay car 'cause you. One in town right you saw it all the time. But if you went over to the other side of town, you might see a different Mary Kay car that was like a shock shock and surprise, and it's almost like the wiener mobile like as late as the nineties there they they had only. Given out seven thousand of these. Really. Wow. So it really was like the goodyear blimp except on a more accessible local level, but they work like us like a subtle per less. No. They were PEPCO. Abysmal Pink Kinks Oh. So pink that was that was the brand. You were supposed to notice they were killer I think they realized at some point that nobody wants that color and new car technologies have allowed for a and I didn't know until I saw this one in the glacier parking lot and then again in whitefish, and then again it's it's a much classier look. Yeah. Al- although my sense was at least from the one woman that drove a Mary Kay car in my part of Anchorage. was that it was the kind of if you were Mary, Case Salesperson your aesthetic was you back we'll because she always she seemed like a lady that had like a lot of diamonds on her fingers and like. Had her hair done all the time. He's liberace. She was a friend of liberal. She was a fancy lady and and the pink car was. Not, just a fancy fancy Texas, Lady Fancy Tech, all the aesthetic that implies exactly right. Exactly. Right. Was a native she. Had three kids with her first husband who? To world. War. Two and as soon as she she raised three kids during the war and as soon as he got home, he told her he was leaving her he was a he'd fallen in love with the medic. I assume there was another woman he was because he's a musician and that's why they do deer where it worse that I saxophonist probably even worse. UKULELE. Come on played with a band called the Hawaiian strimmers. Sure. We have fashion at the time when you these are not being played by cute indie girls, their boyfriends right. But instead by my guys in aloha shirts, hair slicked back. So he and his group that Ukulele strimmers were one of Texas Texas's Premier Hawaiian. UKULELE firms, the Hawaiian drummers I think is what they were called. So he divorced her leaving her with three kids and no good living in the postwar area. The story starts off with a tragedy. It's GonNa it's really gonNA pull out into a different tragic. She up. As a single woman in the nineteen forty, she didn't have that many options for putting food on the table but there was direct sales as early as the nineteen twenties or so in. America companies had started this idea that you know start up costs for business or tough but. We, send you the staff you sell it to your friend. You go door to door and you keep half the proceeds and this was the model that was very appealing to a to a nineteen forties housewife without a lot of capital to open up A. Dry cleaning store feeling to me even now. What would you like to sell to your neighbors John? You're by the way a very bright pink shirt. Thank you for thing. Yeah. Bubble Gum. Pink. You know what I'm trying to sell to my neighbors is that. Well. It's a line of BS is what I'm trying to. Bring over money. You have a neighborhood patriotic well, no, I'm selling it to my neighbors on the Internet every day just A. Straight Line of be yes. That hoping they buy and it seems like they do but you don't have any product for them Oh product product. This is something I'm always trying to figure out a way to actually make a thing that people would wanna buy and I've never really come up with anything better than t shirt design or an album, and an album isn't a. It's not primarily a thing. I. Want People to buy what if What if you can just wandered around your neighborhood? Selling copies of your records like A. Mix Tape Guy in the. You know honestly what it is I'm not a salesman and to be a salesman is to be a type of person, right? It's to be a to sell is is a gift. And also a pathology. I was about to say it's a kind of person that nobody likes. But in fact, that's not true. The office by definition, these must be. Harming likeable guys on the train. Yeah. That's right. Who have just taken their natural gift and perverted it into A. Way of. Of, like earning money not perverted but. I don't know my relationship to sales is complicated like I think most Americans. Because we've all been. I. Don't like to be sold right. We've all been confronted with a an aggressive salesperson. sell things as a kind of a plane kumble Protestant American type. Yeah. Dislike. The idea even when we have to say, Hey, we have a patriot if you like the show I feel like it's immodest somehow I'm uncomfortable with it to and yet there are people around the world who are selling things and also there are a lot of. A lot of things in our lives that we have to be grateful that someone that someone was selling. Sure right I mean that's the mentality of a salesperson is that they're here do you favor the problem is you don't know you don't know if you've got good advice fears. The salesman is not a disinterested party like maybe in my house, I have the right dishwasher because some salesman actually did a sincere hartselle. What maybe I have the wrong car because salesman just wanted a bigger commission when you're online and you're trying to decide which angle grinder by for instance. How you determine. In in trying to find reviews in trying to find. Some way to filter how do you determine which ones are? Unbiased and which ones are product placement or pay paid placements. I feel like I have no idea. Do you spend time doing? Or if I'll be like well because it's all going to be something from China you know. Just. Imagine going on some detail side of being like you know what I need more face masks or I need more whatever like what's the thing here that doesn't suck and it's Sometimes it's suspicious brand new thing, five, five star reviews that are all kind of minimal right and all written in the same syntax systems Astra Turkey, you know I always. I always trusted consumer reports. The shows mostly about consumer orange. I know because we are who we are but lately, I've found that I. Suspect about the consumer reports at least on their APP what I just don't like the way they're APP is designed, but also I don't know man they're talking about sold out. No but I just feel like us right there. Everybody I consumer reports grew up within a consumer reports universe and it's become. It feels like like triple A. almost that it's become a cult in and of itself it's kind of a monopoly. They have they have a little too much power. Yeah and you just don't get the feeling that. It's not there. It's not that they've sold out but. It feels like it has internal. Baya sees right the I remember when it was about the report it was about you know what it was about it was about that back page called Selamat. Where they were, they exposed like weird ads weird weird sales techniques. I there was a TV show as a kid consumer advocate figure. You may remember from the early eighties, David Horowitz who would show up on morning shows and be like he'd be like A. America's ombudsmen who'd be like don't believe this scammy and for whatever you don't actually need to buy six cans of Progresso. You get the same price if you just by one I'm on your side. Too, many insect parts in these pastas. He actually had a short line TV show where he would. He would get the audience to yell fight back at his at his. Throne Consumer Crusades. Back. I really liked that's how you can tell I was a little occupy Wall Street kid in training Oh if we could only return to a time when the thing we were concerned most about was. Progresso. was trying to convince US tonight too many has. A. Good sale when it was really just standard price in this direct sales universe Mary, Kay kind of did what you would imagine that being in the in the forty she was selling a series of books door to door. You know like child rearing books like the first two volumes are free kind of this kind of thing, and this smacks of kind of like a tragic desperation. Move right like a single mom ringing doorbells out not a lot of this key. Oh, keep coming up again in this start not a lot of opportunities for MOMS who have kids to raise because you can't even even assuming a plethora of nine to five jobs that would take women in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, eight, or whatever. You've got kids at home. You don't imagine the kind of plucky optimism she would have to screw onto her face ring the doorbell the door opens it's a it's a a fellow mom probably opening the door imagine her checking your lipstick and compact before each door you. Can Do this America. You can do this and that fellow mom is going to look at her and go oh, look at you so too bad that you have to work and you have to screw on enough confidence. That you're not going to get you're not gonna be like destroyed by that condescension. By the door destroyed by the bless your heart. Yeah. Hearts can you take a day and yet and you're trying to sell this book but she don't you know and and you don't WanNa you don't WanNa, have a pity sale that you're not gonNA turn down a pity sale. There would have been more of a culture of women at home delighted to see another woman at home right? So it a charming person could get by on that. We don't have that today like, ooh, the doorbell maybe somebody'll show me how vacuum works but back, then you know what a delight to have someone to talk to you for a minute but there was a tremendous I think a tremendous social. Cost borne by any woman that had to work sir. Percents. So so trying to trying to put that face on where it's like I'm not doing this because I have to I'm doing it because I love this book on child rearing I mean you. She must have been quite a salesperson. There were I guess it's after the war. So there are more independent women who've actually tasted. The. The It'd be she did whatever they had employment they had during the war. And would have wanted a side? GIG. So she also. Common and there was a company called Stanley home products. That was one of these. You know you demonstrate the greater in your house and hopefully some of your friends will buy some at a little party you throw right is not a party. It's a captive audience for your sales pitch tupperware being the being the most famous verse Tupperware kind of invented that. I, think it was a it was a struggling company that survived on the strength of one female employees saying what if we did the sales in homes? Are we going to save tupperware for a separate omnibus I? Think such of burn it up right here we forget what I just said about. Future I know the tupperware survived and some price still has. Probably, some of you are living in Tupperware. Do you think. Like our old. Our old. Spinach lasagna in Tupperware and living off of that and the dystopia in future I. Bet I bet some of the future links are sentient spinach lasagna's that that that sat in that kind of vacuum and and that aerobic atmosphere produced. That's right. Complaints live intelligence. if it doesn't Burp when you open it, do not eat that lasagna especially if you are lasagna. While she was doing one of these. Demonstrations, she met a woman named and I swear this is real ova spoon more sure over spoon war over spoon. Sounds. Patently a fake tombstone name like A. Bad. On the spine of fake book over Spoon Malaika, like to please your husband by. Kisser. These favors. Sure. Sure where it's like not even real plausible first name future of breakfast cereal by over spoon more exactly. But overheat spoon Moore was an actual whose father had been a tanner and who noticed one day that's what spoon more means. It's been more. It's it's. For, tanner ten all the way back to Jamestown. he had noticed that his hands. This. Metal pictures cracking me up his hands. He still had youthful youthful smooth. A baby hands from using lie to ten from his tanny even his face was. WAS GNARLED and wrinkled. So imagine this man with his weird baby hands thinking sure what have I? My God, what have I just burned to the calluses off day in day out keeping his hands soaking in the VAT. So he has daughter came up with formulas skincare formulas based on whatever his awful tanning solutions were interesting and have you ever been to a tannery? I have not it's maybe the worst smell of an Avatar. Similar smell. It's really a very similar smell outside the gets inside. But the, but the tanners like let it sit and. You have you have to right? They're not. They're not turning the insides into delicious hamburger. They're they're like scraping the insides off the outsides. It's pretty it's pretty bad. Let's not go into it I think the tanners in. In full House also smell bad the tanner family. Were they all tanner's John Tanner and a Rockstar, I'm not sure this is the this is the generation gap between you and me because I couldn't tell you two things about full House I know John Stamos was the drummer of the beach boys yes. But other than that I don't know anything about him and I never saw that the coach. Did that have did full house have an adorable set of twin girls little girls. Okay. So I know that weight that's not Mary Kate and Ashley Ashley I'm looking I'm watching you discover off discover borderline millennial culture. Do you know that I met Mary, Kate, and Ashley? They were they were together. You met them both I met them both in the lobby of the Chateau. Mont.. And they were sitting by this point, they were like full on like shadow wherein millennial cigarette smokers. And we were all kind of sitting around in the lobby you know in on those big cushy. Is. Just having drinks and smoking cigarettes back when you could smoke cigarettes. And Yeah just had an encounter with them the very nice Oh that's nice. I wanted that to be the takeaway no no, I liked them a lot the they don't keep up with you though we didn't know. Exchange numbers at the end. No. So nineteen sixty Mary Kay ash, not Mary Kate, Olsen. But Mary Kay ash buys the the Tannery the the lie and Hog fat formula or whatever it is. From the spoon more family, and because she thinks it's could be a beauty line and this was a chance encounter she had with the spoon Moore's. It was one of these homewares parties I think you know she was it was a sales thing she was working for Stanley home products at the time, but she had been passed over for promotion by less qualified man see I'm sure that I wish I had the confidence of a less competent Mediocre Dallas White Man in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, three. Actually, that is quite probably a lot of a lot of confidence even a even a guy who didn't have confidence would have had to have been projecting confident I feel like you don't even have to say mediocre there because it's implied in White Dallas Man of nine, hundred, sixty three except for Lee Harvey, Oswald Right all the excel of all the White Dallas Man on ninety sixty three you really you really made things happen. You Know Linda Lyndon Johnson was was was peeking right about then but he wasn't from Dallas from out in the hill country. Yes he uh. I was just reading this morning about how LBJ this is. unrelated. Weird speaking of Yodel. This show would. RUN UNRELATED DEG rich. We'll cut this out because people hate. When we talk about anything except for Mary Kay Pink Cadillac just get straight to the story is what they want that he was keep complaining about the temperature so much on Air Force One that they finally just install the knob and said so now you can control the and it was it was an idiot now attached to nothing like the slider that we have at the studio for the for the guy from the label that's what you tell them. He told the musicians. I've been in this. I've been in that studio to here's your here's your guitar just you turn it up when you when you want it louder. So after being passed over by Stanley Home Products Boo, she goes out on her own with this. A new formula something that's she's not just selling. She's producing yes and it's the spoon more hog fat whatever it is that keeps your hands weirdly young and by the following year, she has her first annual seminar for her for her little salesforce of two hundred people. Then she hangs balloons and crepe paper in a warehouse. So this was an immediate success. If she had two hundred people, I think there's a bay first year as as today in many places, there's a big audience of sellers particularly women that want a flexible schedule, but they still want to do something outside the home that allows them to be there when the kids get home from school and they want smooth hands. Or they know people, their neighbors want smooth hands. We all want smooth hands. How much does smoothness? Affect your decision making viz hands like like as far as who I trust well or your own hands. I'm I don't really have any kind of skin regimen. Yeah. Isn't that awful at some point I should I feel like my hands are smooth and I wish they were rougher. That would convey that I I'm better at sword fighting. You have podcasters, hands you need to do. All Venezuelan idiot slider. My left hand has a has calluses on the fingertips from playing I. Don't even want an oak guitar. Thank goodness. That was I was worried about that for a second. So in nineteen, sixty four. It at first seminar. Mary. Kay's running the whole operation herself. She bones the chicken she. The, the article obituary I read for her says she she made the jello dress, the Jalapeno dressing and Jello. Salad herself and hopefully that's not one dish. Hopefully the HALPEA addressing is for the bone chicken Jalapeno dressing and nineteen sixty Texas. Wow pretty exciting though I guess I guess. She's a spicy fund late if you put enough. As in it she's got moxie. That's what we that's what we understand. She's she's a peppery. She's a feisty feisty Texas mom shirt I, get it now. But I'm just hoping that there's there's no Oxford calm. I don't know Jalapeno dressing Ngelo. Sal is the side that she made it impossible also in nineteen, sixty three, I love the her obituary it. It has a line about the food that she served at her coming out. Well, you know how that you work that is the before picture right? Because that would go on by nineteen sixty five company had had a million dollars in sales. And by Nineteen ninety-two, it's on the fortune five hundred. At this point, she's living in a five million dollar thirty room pink Dallas Mansion she loved paying she was always dressed in in bright bubblegum pink. The twenty eight foot ceilings, Crystal Chandeliers, and specifically has one bathroom modeled off exactly exact replica of one that her friend liberace has. She's actually friends with liver by this time friends liberal I assume because of their shared aesthetic now this this suggests so many questions and my first question, and it's a question I have about all of the sort of successful mass marketed or buzz marketed products which is. Is the success. Tied to the quality of the product is her stuff is that hand cream actually innovative and unprecedented such that the success is somehow like she invented a better mousetrap. That's an interesting question specifically with cash because the company was throughout her life very much a personality cult and I think that's why it thrived I mean to this day. It's one of the top ten direct sales companies in America even now. Yeah it's I. Think it's six today it's. It's still behind you'd expect Amway and Avon and Herbalife and me a couple of other weird names that sound like failed car models that you've never heard of because you don't live in Provo Utah but it's still one of the best. It's still one of the biggest most successful direct sales companies in America and it's largely on the strength of her brand not the not the smooth spoon more hands. Yeah. But the Feisty Maugham who tells you the? I WANNA give generation of women, all the opportunities I didn't have and specifically this being Texas mixed in with religion. She would say you know God does not want you slaving away fourteen hours a day just to put Mac and cheese on the table for your kids. He wants you to have something better. It's kind of an upwardly mobile sherve scenario of the American Prosperity Gospel. So generally when we talk about something on the program through the mysteries of time travel, which we which we don't like to discuss directly, we don't fully understand the. We hear from future llings who I mean anytime we mention even the smallest town in America someone will reply within hours well, saying that's where they're from and here's some photos of the thing you just mentioned. It's a problem with podcasting is that we're going to spend an hour and ten minutes talking about a thing. We have no firsthand experience with, and then we will receive a dozen letters from people with actual firsthand experience and we will roll our eyes and hit. Delete this the other day on on my podcast roadwork where I said at the top of the episode I don't know how many listeners I haven't Istanbul. But to my Istanbul listeners something I don't know what I was talking about but I got a tweet today from a guy that was like listening to your show from my from my house here in Istanbul and he was a Turkish guy. You know he's not an ex patriot. He's just some some fan in in Turkey. So. What I would like is for I. DO I don't want to hear from future that's not said don't but I'm not asking for you to tell me that your mom uses Mary Kay products I, want to hear only from future earnings who themselves US marriage, the consumer reports side of you you want testimony do you want ratings on a scale of Red Nipple to black half circle and in particular if you sell Mary Kay Products I, want you to be explicit about that. But I really WANNA. Hear people who don't sell the products but just use the products. What you feel is the advantage of Mary Kay. The So let's assume they're just I will add we'll add your comments to our addenda episode. That's right we want to know because because everyone wants to know in fact, send us some we'll try them out there you I'll put some on my hands but not my face and see if I turned into a creepy doll handed tampering Kim and I both have creepy doll has already so I don't know where we'll put him on the bottles of our feet. But I what I'm assuming is it's a company that sells perfectly serviceable cosmetics, right but through the the kind of the business savvy and force of personality of its founder and brand does very well, and the CADILLACS are a big part of that like the reason why I mentioned that first annual seminars because that has become a yearly Vegas scale. Extravaganza in Dallas. All the sales comes all the salesforce comes in and gets paid big money to get an annual seminar from while she was still alive Mary Kay herself straight from her crystal Chandelier Bathroom I. Mean That's why we can't tax rich right by the way absolutely not how how they afford liberace's chandeliers in their bathroom they were they won't even be able to see so this is like a this is the first stole. Universe of like wealthy. FLASH LIKE WEALTHY MID-CENTURY FLASH. Yeah and it's targeting people who don't have that for whom it's very aspirational right and this is the difficulty of the direct selling. I mean, the the ethical and the professional difficulty of the direct sales. Sector because it's kind of like the lottery, it's a it's like a a tax on the people who can least afford it really is I mean when you look at the numbers of the industry likes to call it direct sales or affiliate marketing because to them. What distinguishes it is that you don't have a store not waiting for someone to walk in the door dangling. What you're actually doing is approaching France there's over trusted people. You know that you can say, Hey, this is good Mascara, right? So it's not just there's no, it's not just there's overhead it's. To them, the secret sauce is the trust and the relationships. Right. In fact what it's often called outside the industry multilevel marketing and other less kind things like pyramid scheme because what happens at Mary Kay and other direct sales companies is most of your income does not come from the UCLA. It's because you get a cut of what your unit cells, right? So You're not. You're not just trying to sell it. You're trying to sell the idea of it too. If you get somebody else other one hundred dollars to get the Mary Kay Starter Kit then you get four percent of whatever they sell, and if your unit becomes bigger, you get nine percent and even thirteen percent of what they sell now, how many people do think? lucked out. And recruited. Like one of the great salespeople all time and then they didn't have to do anything they had somebody down the pyramid from them. That was really awesome. I mean there's a reason why it's called the pyramid. The group at the bottom is so much bigger like the of the of the millions and millions of one hundred million dollars or whatever that Mary Kay I don't have a number, but the hundreds of millions of dollars Mary Kay brags that it grosses every year it's really concentrated in a small group of people and that's true of the multilevel marketing industry as a whole depending on. The I think Mary Kay says it's average sales. Person Sells one thou- makes one thousand and fifty seven dollars a year. And their annual turnover somewhere between sixty eight and eighty five percent of sales people. Yeah. So most people do not stick it out you need to its appearance give you need to constantly be finding new marks. So if they earn one thousand dollars, how much did they have to buy in in order to I? Mean how much money did it ended up costing well, see okay, that's another tricky thing. multilevel marketing is legal in the United States as a result of a nineteen seventy-nine FTC decision in Ray Amway. Oh. In Ram in which the government actually considered should companies. Out Loud to. Thompson K.. Ebay. I mean Amway is. Way such bad name that it recently. But ten years or so ago, fifteen years ago it briefly changes name to quick star in hope that that would fool people into being able to tell their friends. Because the number one thing that happened to ask to. What does that now has called? quickstart system or something and changed his name weirdly asked his amway. We're, super. Weirdly quickstart now is my Internet service provider. quickstart does sound exactly like a cable company and if that's what they wanted and the idea was because when you tell your friends, Hey, you know I've got this cool new thing to tell you about. A generation new the number. One thing you ask is this amway and watch the person's Kinda pupils. Go. Sideways Because it's the worst to be friends with someone who is an amway sales it's. So because even that became a punchline in stand up comedy, right like Amway sales men was it's not what you do if you can't do anything else. Right let's put it that way but the person I the last person I knew who is trying to tell me all about his amazing quickstart opportunity was a guy who drove a school bus three hours a day but. Could not make ends meet on it and did not know what to do with the rest of the day, which is sad when you look at the studies on multilevel marketing, the numbers are not unusual at least half of the people drop out of the first year and ninety per only ten percent. Make it past five years it's a career for of tiny number of people in the in the best case studies. You're GonNa Average about twenty, five, hundred dollars annual income, and that might sound good until you realize the time commitment of constantly annoying your friends and it works out to about a buck fifty an hour. It's not minimum wage and according to the worst case studies actually ninety nine percent of people that try. An MLM lose money right but the people that are succeeding is it because they are selling it's because they've sold their never felt I see they are building up what you call a down line. All the emphasis in the materials is about how the real money is in building up. Your down line and I I can speak pretty authoritatively on this because I used to live in Utah which is Ground Zero for all of America's biggest. Multilevel Marketing Company and why is that? Is Part of deseret industries involved somehow desert industries just more goodwill it's a, it's a thrift shop and he gives job experience it's exactly goodwill, but this is unaffiliated with the Mormon Church, but it is not unaffiliated with more in culture. To say that more correctly it is unaffiliated with the Church of Jesus. Christ. Of Latter Day Saints Right very bound up in Mormon culture in Jello Salad and spink Cadillac the companies themselves like this all these Utah based companies new skin and So forth that is that some kind of like set some sort of like robots slave company new skin skin like a silent type. Product from a Dystopia and future played around movie. Right? Does the new models come with an expelled en you so it? Like a blatant anything. all they will tell you. It's really because Mormon missionary culture means that we've got a built in skilled salesforce, all of course, and you're used to having people ring the doorbell. In fact I, think that it could not be less relevant. Like there's no guarantee that serving a two year mission actually make somebody a good salesman for a tricky product and it certainly may not apply to. To to to he shouldn't bury shampoo. This is a question it's never occurred to me but If you live in Utah Do, Mormon missionaries come to the doors, ring the doorbell, or is it the one state in the nation where at one place in the world where you're safe from? It's like, can you tickle yourself? In fact, UTAHNS are not safe. Heard the good news. Yeah. I've heard there's one. There's one brick building on that block with the Basketball Court and one on the next floor and two on the next blood. There are plenty of. Latter Day Saint Missionaries in Utah and it's because. Success. In that field it's it's affiliate marketing basically. Come from cold calling on a doorbell and being like, Hey, would you like to change religions actually? Yes. Come in bright. It's all going to be people who have a friend who they've. You know their kids attend church together. You know we were talking about that at the sleepover we went on the scout camp trip. You know it's going to be people whose friends are. Have already been warmed up a bit. So yes, there is a booming missionary industry. UTAH. Growing, immigrant Latino population might be interested in assimilating to the to the friendly local community religion It's not just kids that couldn't get visas. I wonder if there's any of that. You've got to go on a mission, but you can't leave the United States. So there's definitely some of that like like now, the church needs to know in the trump era that shirts needs to know people's immigration status. Oh. They'd love to send this this bright Latino to to preach the good word and El Salvador. What if ice doesn't let him back in So. The real reasons I have more to do with. You know partly the prosperity. Gospel thing you mentioned kind of self conception that I'm a good person I'm doing everything right? Like clearly God will give me an income stream absolutely will and you know what? What does God love more than private property and how does he show his love other than rewarding you with private? What does God love more than showing co knives a ladies from Church. And I think really the fun. The foundational reason is just demographic forty, six percent of. Women in their thirties and forties in Utah County Utah do not work outside the home, which is not a high parts of the East it's that's crazy like only in that in Utah County Sixty, eight percent of men that age don't have don't currently have a day job. So you have all these MOMS who are going bananas at home all the soaps have been canceled. All the game shows are gone except for prices right putting all those bananas into Jello. Salads. There's jealous sat but then there's hours free. The American postwar efficiency boom meant that you no longer need right Eight hours a day to do the chores you can only clean your house so much and. But there's a lot of barriers to entry to full-time work there. Certainly, social barriers there might still be you know. Barbara's kids are still at home and yet she's she's working at our better real estate agents office will somehow somewhere along the line and it must have been Mary Kay. That somewhere along the line in the United States, this kind of multi-level marketing became an acceptable form of work for a housewife at when. It probably when it started was considered very. Day class-a or very scandalous that that a woman would be going door to door but then it became a kind of. Show I assume it's like a virus as soon as like a virus ended it becomes endemic, right? And you're right like putting social face on it as clever having your friends over a pampered chef party and showing them how good the garlic press is right The branding, putting the PINK CADILLAC FACE ON. It was very smart I think Mary. Kay was instrumental in that Yeah. In Utah, there's no. I mean there is. Everyone knows it's an annoyance. Yeah. But the basis for the stigma is not well, she should be a better mom. It's more like she should leave me alone or more like bugging me about her essential oils and wonder how many people. In the in places where. Marketing is common how many people are known in the community as someone who will come to your tupperware party, eat and leave they're never going to buy but they but they take advantage of a the opportunity that the free sample. I'll tell you what you know who the sales people are because they will work their church community as if it were a client list bright and nobody really likes like we we moved into a new neighborhood. In Utah the first house we bottle starter home in Utah in I just two thousand and two. And We went to church one. Sunday and then a woman called up my wife the next week's super bubbly chatty. Just wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood Blah Blah Blah, you see where this? Fifteen minutes of Chitchat later hey, this might seem like an odd question but what do you do with your photos? The news like my my photos, what do you do with all your photos? Oh. I think I keep them in a box under my bed. And she was just you could hear the Hooks Zoo. Her real spending, hirsch her spiel was. Either shock or feigned shock you do what right could someone do something so awful they're photos of them in a box under your bed. So you don't scrap book out here. I'll know I I really don't, and so this woman turned on her scrapbooking pitch and Mindy was like you know as I said, I don't really scrapbook I. Just have a box of photos that I need to sort at some point when I hear someone say they don't scrapbook I know it's just someone who's never scrapbooked when I hear someone say I don't scrapbook I get out my browning light that's it's it's a sign of trouble. But there's a whole industry. Have you been to one of these parties? Have you ever been like actually like sat on the couch in a full living room I have not I was invited to a pampered chef party in college. There were college kids trying to make an extra buck doing this Oh you know my sister briefly did cut co knives and she came over to our house and showed us how how well they sharpener how sharp they slice or whatever it is. Slice they sharp something. Do you have first hand MLM experience I went to A. It wasn't tupperware. Went to a party in nineteen seventy seven. My best friend's mom went through a phase where she was going to and she worked full time but she was going to supplement her income by having these parties weren't you like? A. Nine, year old boy was a nine year old and I went to the party because my friend invited me I guess he said you know my mom is having a party part of the problem. Can I bring a friend? What they'll do is they'll say, oh, I just need to practice. I. Just started selling this and I just need a group to practice on and of course, they're gonNa hit you up and she was selling candles or something some sort of candles candleholders and I ended up buying one. Like I got my broke my piggy. Bank I was all excited about MLM's in the future please note. will buy your scrapbooking stuff nine year old boys. That's your new market all your candle. It's true. The nine year old boys are I was very tight-fisted nine year old. I knew what I was saving up for but you apparently had been loud by the candle I was I was I was very tight fisted but I think the pitch was that this would be a good gift for my mom. That's I'm sure that's what she said about the book told her to say, and so I I was excited because I because it was the one thing I would break my piggy bank to do was to buy gift for my mom and I did give it to her. The. Candle. Holder and we still have it. Is that right? Yeah. It's still it's in a it's in a box of Christmas thing. Do you think it's possible that you were hypnotized with the candle? If not you think she used the candle. To get you to get you interested in counterculture. It was I felt like this party was very exciting There were up right. There were all these women that. You know that we're from around the neighborhood. They'd all kind of dressed up for it. You know it was like they came it was a night out. It was a time. You knew your neighbors, which is probably buried entering many places today they were drinking wine they were laughing. Errands mom gave gave the presentation about these and I just I I don't know I got swept up in it. In the end of Mindy Story of courses the once she told us when we should ends crop this woman never talk to her again. At Church or elsewhere well, sure because. The scrap booker you don't she's not interested in I mean I don't think that was the barrier was like you know if you're not in my down line. I don't have time for you. You're not. You're not helping my bottom line. The FCC keeps the FTC keeps a pretty close eye on. multilevel marketing. What do you say? Not a scheme multilevel marketing Outfits outfit. Because Some of them are literal pyramid schemes. The internal test the FTC uses is often internal consumption how many people are. high on their own supply basically, like are you buying stuff? On. Are you are you buying product just to get up to the the sales, tear where you can claim a commission and then putting a bunch of Cream on a credit card. Because that's that's what's very common here people will not do as well as they thought, they will buy their own stuff stocked pilot and accumulate credit card debt in order to make these commission tears icy, and often they victimize herbalife in particular criticized for victimizing vulnerable populations Latinos. For example, they you know they'll go to. Developing world cities and sell this as a way way to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and you know bring people into further financial ruin I think in a lot of cases to the degree that China has now banned or China for awhile banned any Western multilevel marketing scheme obviously with a new middle class classes. Perfect for that and in the Muslim world in particular, it is often explicitly haram. Sounds Rome it's not I mean it should be around it. So wrong to me, it's not Koranic in that you are giving. Exchange without credit and credit without exchange or whenever you know it violates the Quranic principles of sound business sense. So there's places you literally can't do it. But a big part of putting a new Utah. So huge that you know everybody on your block, half the Peop- on your block have have are selling something and a bunch of your no ten people who work for one of the big companies. My brother was in house counsel at one of these places and he just hated it because you know thanks to Orrin Hatch it's now legal to make. Vague good health claims about this stuff without actually doing any FDA approval processes, right just vitamin C. and ground up horse hooves. So he would spend his whole time keeping the sales staff from making specific prosecute legs such a fun job sales stuff. The higher ups hated him because he's the guy who always says no, and he was afraid he was going to just practicing MLM law for life and he jumped when he saw tech company and he's much happier doing. Ip Law and Textile. Keeps his. Hands. CLEAN WITH IP law right. But not but not on wrinkled you know if he had stayed with should nonni he would have the power of Nonni Berry. Keeping his skin smooth an online but one of the things that really made this kind of scammy Business Model An acceptable part of American public life was the genius move by Mary Kay ash to introduce pink cadillacs. Organization has a bunch of. giving. These tears is very smart because it makes people really kill themselves to get to the next tier. It's the same reason. You have a boy scout merit badge. They the sales people will wear little gold jewelry broaches called the ladder of success where you get a new little jewel pin on each rung of the ladder allows you can look right at someone's lapel and know where they are tell how good they are selling selling I shade. But the real struggle Jesus was, of course, the cars nine, hundred, sixty, eight. She went to a Lincoln Lot and said she wanted a custom Pink Cadillac? To help? You get a cadillac. Lincoln. Sorry. She went to Lincoln Lot and ask for Custom Lincoln to publicize her booming new business and they gave her kind of Texas little lady when you when your husband degrees to by the way in the in the in the meantime she and her husband had planned this. Hand cream business based on the tanner espy's only to have him die of a heart attack right before this is our second husband died immediately before they were going to launch this and she ended up kind of having to do it without her beloved George. Wow. Who died when they were on the brink of this and she made a go of it by herself. So she was in no mood to have some Lincoln salesman color little late give her the run around and say you come in with your husband and we'll put you Lincoln. So she goes to a Cadillac dealership where they're only too happy to sell her. General Motors comes to the rescue and but her what she wants one that. A very specific shade of Mary Kay Blush. Mountain Laurel and says, can you do this and they say, well, we've never done. That before but we'll. We'll do accustomed paying job and so. Cadillac, began this Cadillac began painting cadillacs, Mountain Laurel for her let me just say that the one thousand nine, hundred, Sixty, eight. Cadillac. Front end is I think one of the most beautiful American car it was a coupe Deville is that what you're offering their largest sedan and I think they are especially the The convertible, the nineteen, Sixty, eight, convertible coupe. Deville. Is. His or I'm sorry I guess it would be the Deville, the the convertible Deville such a such an icon I've always covered one I'm looking I want to look at one right now and I. Encourage you if there's a if there's a wreck coupe Deville there any future links out there who have in nineteen sixty, five, sixty, eight, Cadillac Coupe, Deville convertible that want to sell it to me. It's nobody no picture. No Internet photo can contain this car. It's spilling off the front and the back of every picture I. Look. It's as big as a house. It really is that is fantastic look at that and you can imagine the effect. One of these would have in Bright Mary Kay pink what would enter your field of vision and be there for like three minutes before it exited the other side. What was that pink rectangle? And Nineteen sixty-nine, she decided her top five sellers should have one as well. And not began a tradition of thus began fleet of pink cadillacs and as you mentioned the American south this was not new Elvis famously how to show pink Cadillac that he toured in and I think that's what gives us the Bruce springsteen beside. Data lack. If you've listened to the lyrics, it's clear that a pink Cadillac is not a car. He loves the DILDO. Yes I bring stephen singing about using his favorite pink Cadillac which he gets from under the mattress. No. The boss. Saying that he loves a woman mostly because he just loves driving her pink Cadillac. So it's it's it's it Oh dear the he's speaking about her euphemism. My Goodness I. Are you GonNa, burn all your springsteen records didn't have any springsteen could but but. I'm not sure whether I like it more or less maybe more so that that post dates the Mary Kay thing and makes the the sausage. Okay of of a of a wife Dr driving a pink Cadillac Funnier, but there was. Because of Elvis, there was prior art for a pink Cadillac signifying. Showy prosperity American south. Today, if you reach these sales director level of Mary Kay success that would be selling one, hundred, thousand dollars a year you and your unit. Oh, boy. You get what they call you to join the. Big Unit they don't make the Deville anymore of course. It. When the Davila succeeded by the Mary Kay began to use and today it's the x t five crossover I saw glacier. Now in this new pearly pink cover. But you join me career car program and you can choose to get a monthly stipend or you can choose to drive the car is different levels. You don't own the car that's the thing. A lot of people don't know this. It's a two year lease Oh, and at the end of the lease, you can either buy the car or you can sell it and if. You sell it back to the dealership. They will just repaint it because you're not allowed to like they have America's specific agreement with Cadillac you can't drive a car that color they sell a car that color to anyone but a certified Mary Kay one, Hundred K., your sales on. So that's why you never see them on the on the used market. I would think like bring a trailer would be full of pink right? Where do you see old cop cars or her sensor or wiener mobiles in I don't want to know how they repay that. In the case of the dealership is obligated to repaint them and resell as normal Keller Cadillac. There are different tiers by the way like at the lowest. These are called but you start out by getting a silver Malibu than you can work your to or like a Black Chevy Cruz I think you can work your aunt to a Black Mustang. That's kind of the newest edition and at the top level I think is the pink Cadillac and maybe a lot of people go for the blacklist thing. Just because they don't want to be associated with one hundred percent associated with driving that in the in the eighties I remember show there was the woman that had the pink Cadillac but then there was. How someone showed up a woman showed up Driving Pink K car. and. Said Mary Kay on it, and it was obviously like that must have been one of the lower tier at the time. Yeah. Instead of the Chevy Cruz, but it was still pink. Bright Pink. It was just like not not yet a cadillac level the impression I get today you only get pink at the highest level like that's membership hath its privileges and it's more about the call her I mean also the cadillacs much nicer car than the Chevy Cruz but really what what certifies you as the color in nineteen ninety-three Mary Kay made headlines for breaking down one of America's last and most important gender barriers what she She was elected president of the United States. Do you not remember that brief period? Between, George H W Bush, and Bill Clinton. The presidential line of succession is such that Mary Kay ash briefly. No. The first male Mary Kay consultant. Earned a pink Cadillac. Craig Hogan and his sixty woman down line of. HOUSTON. A sixty woman down line won a Tony Award. For. He. He loved the men's line of Mary. There's a men's line of Mary Kay. Product something for our listeners. Keep in mind if you want to send us a gift, keep your fingers soft like a child bottom. It's. But only to this, they only two percent of their sales forces is male. But Craig Hogan kind of a A. Blonde toothy. Texan man, I don't. Want to speculate he. He's now in. He's now does luxury realty for Coldwell banker, but he was recently interviewed by a podcast for America's largest. LGBT? Real, realtor. Could Professional Group whatever you call it so I assumed that Craig Hogan was the You know the the flamboyant pal of all the of all the wealthy Texas women and he made he went on all the morning shows because he was became the first. Male Pink Cadillac drives, and in fact that made him a lot of money. His Texas Vanity Plates said I man? Oh. Yeah. But he but he was not. But his wife wasn't the governor he was the first. The first, very serious man of Texas was not Ann Richards husband it was. This guy who's WHO's Could use his. His sassy catty gossip to get all the women to to by. Mary Kay. So that's an important. Glass ceiling broken. Thank you Craig. So is Mary Kay still with US America ash passed away. After a long illness in two thousand one, she had a stroke in nineteen ninety-six was never in good health for the last five years of her life. Must I'm better? It's still a family company I. Think they went public and then re went private at some point in the ninety s and you know what? She actually left her big big liberace mansion at some point and moved into a much smaller house, and so she became one of these. I guess at a higher level of wealth you become the the the person you know just the guy driving a Volvo level you know where where it's less show so she would still be seen around Texas just pushing her on shopping cart in the supermarket she'd have a security guy behind her, but she was now at the post liberace level of wealth, and she was a beloved fixture of of Dallas Texas. How do you? Where do you find that balance between like being Being like achieving all your wealth dreams but then also like being Jello salad person, you came from Jello, Salad and you return to jealous you must have to go through the fire you must have to have your rump springer. Yeah. Of of buying a stupid Lamborghini right before you graduate into into Volvo Dad. You come back around and you're like, you know I love when my avocado stove matched my avocado refrigerator how do I get back to that? And that concludes Mary Kay Pink cadillacs entry seven six, two dot to k zero, nine, three, zero, certificate number two, nine, two, six, six. In the omnibus. Future. In the unlikely event, that social media still exists in your era facebook twitter and instagram are archived at at Omnibus Project. Our handles were at Ken Jennings at John Roderick I'm also on instagram under my same name. You can email us at the omnibus project at gmail.com. We encourage you to seek out one of our fan groups like, for instance, the future links on facebook try to sell them Co, nuys end and pampered chef pizza cutter they're going to try to sell you. On mail trucks and quonset Huts, you try to sell them scrapbooking. Not who wins whatever you do don't keep your photos in vox under the bed. You'll. You'll have no friends immediately there. Read it read it. 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Episode 298: White Trains (Entry 1429.IS1305)

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Episode 298: White Trains (Entry 1429.IS1305)

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Nuclear weapons because I, and when I say the era of nuclear weapons, obviously they it starts in nineteen, forty five. And then it's hyphen and then there's no ending date. Yeah that's right and it kind of. The Cold War ostensibly ended. In the. The very beginning of the nineteen, ninety s and the the tension around the sort of first strike. A. The potential apocalypse that that loomed large throughout the Cold War, that sort of dissipated in and in a way other was there was a brief period where it felt like maybe there were rogue nuclear weapons that were that were being pilfered from the former Soviet Union and assumed there were four still here we're still here and no I mean. I. Think of you are prepared to hijack planes and fly them into the World Trade Center, it would have been much easier to put a put a bomb in the back of a truck and blow ball of New York. If if you were if you're already GONNA be diabolical why not go the whole distance? So you're saying it's harder to pilfer than it seems it's harder to guess have and set off a nuclear weapon that might appear because you would think but there are enough unscrupulous actors that. that. I guess, just the fact that it hasn't happened is kind of evidence that it is harder to do than that look although nine eleven turned out to be kind of trivial and it just it still took decades. Yeah. In a nine eleven. Like incredibly simple when you look back at it. Simple to pull off but I you're not admiring I assume. It's hard to admire nine eleven but but you're not envious like some of the most diabolical things you know you. You always assume that it's going to be a bond villain with all the technology and and billions of dollars to spend. A massive conspiracy but really, it was a rag tag fugitive fleet. on a nine year mission to explore the now you're kind of making them sound like the rebel alliance and I'm a little. Really hard to it's hard to know I'm okay with. A GRANDMA TARKENTON's analogy but I don't think that's very gaunt. He didn't see himself as that at the time I don't think America is America's mayor I thought he was he was the. Trump wasn't. Admiral he does have some facial similarities with the lobster guy. Now I believe he was time's person of the year yeah yea. As a way to not make Bush or Bin Laden. But but throughout the. Throughout the Cold War the sort of like the palpable danger of nuclear weapons felt a little bit more. Honest at least then now, where we're still living in a world where their nukes nuclear warheads, just all over the place in fact there are. There are the United States has over six thousand. Warheads now down from a high of thirty thousand warheads around the time. I was born and the Soviet Union had a lot more than that. And Russia's still has a considerable number but don't you find that it's just. Much. More soothing, not to think about it well, our our current approach. To nuclear arsenals just pretend that they don't exist and I I find much happier. which was not true in the eighties when I was a kid terrified of nuclear armageddon, what's strange is that a huge? Money Assad a huge component of the United States. Military is still predicated on the idea of maintaining first-strike capability at a moment's notice like there are there submarines? There are attack submarines and submarines that trail along behind aircraft carriers to protect them from. From. Hostels, but our entire submarines or for. Our entire strategic submarine. Universe is still based on the idea of. Nuclear weapons offshore of somewhere too. So that everywhere in the world we've got what Lara's missiles ready to go. It's a and it's one hundred percents still based on a deterrent mentality right as though there's anyone in the world that we're deterring from doing anything like it's so unlikely that Russia or China whatever launch nuclear missile at least in current in the current climate the only actor that would we don't have we? They don't have coast. Are Are. Our submarines are no good for for non-state actors except for well, there's that but also like North Korea does not seem to be inhibited by the threat of retaliation who knows they may be incited. We have no idea and I- Iran's nuclear program is one hundred percent targeted at Israel. They're not inhibited by US submarines off the coast. You know they WANNA rate rattle their saber at their neighbor Ralliers Saber at your neighbor as we say. So is all the we've got all these submarines I. Mean We're recording this summer twenty twenty a time when. At least these things still exists I time when and beyond that, there may be only twenty nations on earth that will let Americans enter with a US passport. Because are crumbling empire, right? So I guess it's Nice that we're still pointing nuclear missiles at East I. Mean it's really the only leverage we have as we decay from with it. All you have to do is watch watch wargames to know that we still have. We still have like operating computers prepared to deal with. Yeah. We're ready for the Senegal scenario. That's right. So lookout Senegal when tanks pour through the Georgia border. We're ready with a response like a like a program response. Okay fine. I. Can't get on a plane and go to Tokyo. That's fine but we still have the we have the trump card. Literally. Kill does this show air after the election before now, the share the show will air knocked. This year will enter the time capsule October okay good. So. But submarines leaving the hundreds of billions of dollars that we spend on submarines aside. We still have operational ICBM's in silos in might not North Dakota and not to give anything away spoiler. We still have. Are there people who haven't gotten to the end of north? Dakota. Yet. We still have nukes that are that are deliverable by airplane There are we we have those only three or are there other secret ones? Are there do we have dolphin ones? We don't have space ones we dolphin ones. I'm sure we have briefcase one funicular. Everybody's worried about the briefcase on the non-state actor with a with a super low tech dirty bomb I'm I'm sure I, mean the the tactical ones are the ones that I think pose the greatest risk in the sense that. Tactical nuclear weapons are. Down sized to be used on battlefields to be used in specific instances. So they're at, it's much less likely that any that any head of state we'll decide to obliterate. Vladivostok. Your problem is general or. Calling an audible yeah. That that there or or that a that a president might say, look the caves of Tora Bora are too difficult to infiltrate. WE'RE GONNA lose too many special forces guys. So what we need is the ultimate bunker buster because we have non nuclear bombs that are big we have nonnuclear nuclear that are probably more than one Hiroshima right? Not Maybe that big. What's the biggest one big does like a floral name the. Loud where we used it in. We did use it. Dan the daisy cutter no the the right. They called it the mother of all. Right, which is, should we really be going into MOAB? First Saddam AB is what it is. Mother of all bombs that explains why Moab Utah looks like that. It was just a normal place with no, it was a garden of guests of men. Are you looking it up? I paused because it looked like you were looking at up. I am it is. It is not. Anywhere. Close, it's It's eleven, tons of TNT. I think and that's probably still the biggest conventional weapon has ever used. The mother of all bombs is the mother of all bombs. The daisy cutter was the one was the one you were thinking of that was in the news before the. So. It's like it's it's like a thousandth of a of a Hiroshima of our I guess the news at the Time reported that it was roughly equivalent. Yeah and so we had a new cycle of people saying it's as big as a nuke. Nukes are much bigger, but you can make small small nukes and there's a whole family of. An entire family of bombs. Oh, how cute that were designed the nuclear family that's right. Here. Family. Designed to be used on battlefields where there were actual where they were active US troops. So as we were moving forward, we would nuke the bad guys. Just not even over the horizon just sorta over there. I have an issue with that I just thought Chernobyl it seems like you can't just explode a small nuke two miles away from does seem like that US forces does seem like that but that's that didn't stop them from designing them. I. Guess. The fact that they never use them. Means that my there is something to my reservations. Right although that's the that's the great mystery of them like they're still there, and there are still people in the world empowered to deploy them. And there is a chain of. A processes proceess processes. By which they could be used. There absolutely are and some many now which don't involve the US there's an india-pakistan Pakistan chain. Now there there could have you could have one crazy president of France. And and honestly you know there are there are nukes that and these sort of tactical nukes. You can see within the regional logic of certain conflicts where. Rather than root out all of the. All of the missiles you know all of the canons in the Golan Heights. You know, why wouldn't you just deal with it all in one fell swoop it's the one fell swoop. Solution just to be clear again, you're not suggesting this to the Israeli government no, no, no, no, no no I believe endorsing. Admiring nine eleven you're not endorsing. The nuclear option in the gone I know I believe that there's a there is a Senegalese scenario is right out. There is a political solution I believe that I believe that states states craft statecraft is is the way. But but you you asked an interesting question which is other than. Silo Missiles Air Born missiles. And Submarine Launched Missiles Dolphins and. Dolphins and the funicular missiles and the briefcase missiles with their other ways of deploying missiles and. There were a lot of. Part of the. Part of the appeal of submarines is that the deterrent nature of them is really. Accentuated. By the fact that they're they're impossible to track or hard to track not possible I mean the hunt for red. October teaches us that unless you use that new Caterpillar Caterpillar drivers right. But but once a once a submarine leaves. Banger here in Washington or the big sub base in Charleston. And it goes underwater. Those those nuclear submarines can stand or water for months at a time and and very hard to see and is it true that other other governments might not have a sense of where our submarines absolutely true. Because once they go down and zigzag around, you'd have to have really good. Tracking ability to to keep tap to find them in the first place let alone keep tabs on them as they move around. So that's their that's their primary strength and an ICBM in a silo in my not North Dakota. It's a dead certainty that even though it's been disguised underneath a dairy queen. I'm sure it is not underneath the Soviet Union. Eventually figured out and mapped where all of those places where and it's not whereas some more like a mosquito in your car with you. Originally. You'll see it or hear it. But most of the time man, it could be anywhere and it could it could sneak up and bite you buy in the air and you probably wouldn't even notice until it was until it already started to each I have noticed by the way just as an aside do you have do you really have a very soft be when you say have a very soft be John Do? The softest come over here. When you say submarine, do you swallow the be submarine? You've been saying submarine do summer summary With two M's don't say submarine. Sub Forum I love I love summary submarine it sounds like a like kind of Pheko Tanzania kind of. Home Shopping Network Marine is what I bought. My fiance's this have six submarines set in. A. Sterling Silver. But the that's the new Soviet is summer summary. Soviet Subir submarines are the. Ultimate. Omnibus. Coin and you need to figure out your confidence are out of work. You've taken the M. V. from submarine I ripped to the ripped. Letter sweater. From his varsity sweater, each somehow turn to the BNL I assume by taking off the boot part the boobs off and you put it into Soviet I did well, at least you've got the conservation of consonants inserts. It's the conservation of Cold War consonants because it only happens in Cold War context I love I love Cold War, concert contexts if you think about the Cuban missile crisis the. The. The whole reason that we detected those missiles was that the Cubans weren't manufacturing. Nuclear missiles there in Cuba and they weren't They weren't building hidden silos for them. They had to come from summit, drag them off of boats across parking lot into the jungle, and rather than build really hardened emplacements they were launching them from the backs of trucks and those were more or less short- shorter range missiles right the the whole plot of the Cuban missile crisis if it can be said. To have had a plot. Oh, it's. It's a plot, a plot against America theory go but it was owned those missiles could only reach. I. Mean They could reach the capital and that was Kinda what mattered at least to the to the Kennedy. Administration. But you couldn't have hit Seattle from Cuba with those truck launched missiles have you ever heard the story about how the one of the tip offs the? The analysts tip-offs for the Russian presence in Cuba was the surveillance photos revealed soccer fields being cleared in the jungle. And Cubans play baseball. So they were used to seeing baseball diamonds and when the analysts suddenly started seeing soccer fields, baseball diamonds, they were lied. Euros. Were there. That is a European presence interesting and they just corrected and it was Russian consultants. It's like how the how the the NAS- nasty figured out that the guy was from England. Inglorious bastards because he held up three fingers the wrong way he didn't use thumb. We actually got letters about that when I, when I talked about my son counting three and then discovering a gun because not only works. If you count on your thumb yeah and I guess onto three, how do you do are you thumb I will now I think I am because because like a lot of things in the nineteen eighties, I picked up a European affectation like cross my sevens. And who you blame for this the ninety nine left balloon song. Yeah. That's basically what it was. It was it was. An era when it was like it was because of. Europeans are so interesting their hair is flu than are they look more like niggles than we do? Okay. But Moving. Nukes around is. It's it's a strategic problem because if if you're if your adversary sees you moving them around, then they know where they are and so they're they're more easily targeted but also making nuclear weapons heart, it's There's there's factories putting together. That's right. Dozens of different parts and components that need to be assembled somewhere, and it's not a thing kitchen. You can just sort of a like disseminate across the country you can't have. Twenty five different factories all making nuclear warheads I. Mean I suppose you could, but it would be it would be extremely. Expensive and difficult to do what if it turned out that there's some American consumer product, which is actually been a cover all along for the fact that we're using their manufacturing facilities. It's Amway Mary Kay the UCS are being delivered in the backs of Kathy dig into the big vats of Mary Kay goop. You can pull out pull out a nuclear material. That's what the Bruce Springsteen Song is about. It's about nuclear proliferation I'm on fire is actually about a first strike. We're all burning. I was assuming that right? You goldfish crackers or something like pepperidge farms is just a Oh. It's the Keebler elves. Yeah. It's like when the the lawn rolls back in the X men's jet comes out on pepperidge farms, the cow pasture rolls back and and the Goldfish are just to cover operation. Down there, they're actually making fissionable material and a rods and I don't know. Well, let me ask you this. How big is what like I know it's a bunch of parts that have to be assembled. But how big is the final product like a nuclear missile can be the submarine one summary ones are small marine ones will the warhead is separate from the delivery right and so you can have a warhead that sits on the tip of a missile that's underneath a underneath a jet airplane so we can be I mean. Can Be Small. A word can be the size of a rugby ball. Or maybe a little bit bigger. Some of the one of the one of the innovations of the late eighty s or mid eighties ICBM's was that on the top of the missile. Unspoken inside of that. That nose cone, there were actually multiple warheads. These were called the Murph's. And the missile would launch go up into. Low Earth orbit and then the the. The nosecone would pop off and the missile would send multiple warheads like a firework headed to different target. Separately targeted completely separately targeted go to go to widely flung locations. Wow. So even though you had polically let her it was crazy. So so you know if even one missile got through whatever space-based defense that didn't ever since that was just a dream come on just a twinkle in in Brezhnev's I. It could it could deliver what eight warheads six more heads to various places. In the United States. The warheads that we used were not assembled by Keebler elves or under a goldfish factory we everyone knew where they were made there made it a factory in Texas. Called the PANTEX factory Pantex Panta it does seem like they're pretending to make. nylons or something yeah. PANTEX is is like a feminine hygiene product, but it's also anteks to ninety two. It's a factory in Amarillo Texas and a lot of these new factories as we know were products of. During the Manhattan project in World War. Two. A lot of plants were opened in the desert southwest. here in Washington state in Tennessee sort of. Different groups of. People scrambling to get. To to throw together these these new components to make a bomb that we could drop on the Japan. It's a whole new industry, whole new industry, and then after the war, it only made sense that. These three thousand. Well but also that these places that we'd already strung some electrified fence around should then be the places where we continue to manufacture these as we scale up and become a a country that's massively manufacturing. That's funny. So it started as kind of a wartime exigency to put it in the middle of these weird places right I mean Hanford. One of the reasons that Hanford. As an advantage is it's right there. It's the middle of nowhere, but it's also right there on the. Columbia River in the Columbia River provides all that hydro electric power in a into to fuel a process that that requires a lot of power. Before before we were using the power of the split atom to power the process of. Splitting more. But a lot of a lot of these factories are just you know where there was land far away from people. And the PANTEX plant in Amarillo is the spot where material is gathered from around the country uranium from Hanford and and. Blasting. Launch. Data's pancakes or whatever it is that you need to to to combine to make a warhead. They're all brought together their assembled and. Military. Facility or is it a? Is it like just a heavily-guarded? Civilian Plants Range -ly the. Nuclear Weapons. Manufacturing. Component is. Overseen, and owned by the Department of Energy. So I remember when Rick Perry got energy everyone was saying that's not just this is also the nukes. Yeah. It's not just the damn right it's. They are they're in control of of the nukes right up until the point at which they hand him over to the military, and it may be that the military just has them on lease its. And when they're done with them, they return them to the Department of energy what the energy gets in return like what would you want from the US from the defending military? What if they just WanNa Bunch of parachutes for gym class you know I've been saying if I became a if I became a billionaire for some reason, I don't think I ever will. Allow you to get like a decommissioned aircraft carrier and just park it off of Santa Monica and turn it into like a casino just a luxury Super Palace for myself just out there every day walking the deck looking over looking out at. Santa. Monica Pier. One. Thousand Times bigger than the biggest yacht. Yeah. Yeah. So great especially, if it was nuclear power, just a hotdog and around the big sale on like to scale like a sale. That's why A. Thousand feet in the air imagine just like full power just hotdog up the up the Hudson River like what a splashy would make. Everyone knows you painted hot pink Mary Kay Pink. There's not another one of those areas I man he is again on get the loudest. Big trained on like dressed like a tugboat captain for some reason. But once the war heads are assembled at Pantex and they're making a lot of different kinds of warheads for Saabs for for for silos for jets. Then, they have to go from Pantex to where they're going to be deployed using the present. Tense. By the way am I is this a spoiler warning if I if I ask is that factory is still producing new warheads that factory is that and this does still happen, but it's changed over time. In, the in the early years of the Cold War immediately after World War Two when we were scaling up this process, there was you know the limited number of nukes and a limited number of places that they needed to go. But by the early fifties, we were in an arms race with the Soviets and. An pantex was working overtime making. Nukes and they needed to go. Too Far far flung places. and. The Department of Energy Solution. To the question of how are we going to move these nukes around the country gotta get him to the ports gotta get into the silos. was rather than you know to put them in the trunk of a car Allah Repo Man and send a guy driving around. they built a train. A real to train. They built one train out of parts. Additionally, I'm sure it was just one. And they. They took like old. Kitchen cars? From. From Work Trains from from Army trains, they had all these surplus army train like like the cars that had that did food prep. Yeah. For the kitchen cars and they they, they put sheet metal over the windows and they built little little. Turrets on the ends with like for. Gun. Emplacements little little little. That's sat up where he could shoot a gun out and and they linked up train that had like a car. Full of warheads and then a car full of guards that had little turrets, and then another car full of warheads and another carful a guards and they made these long trains do any sense of why kitchen cars were uniquely suited to this? They just had them lying around. Nineteen, fifty one. You're just trying to put it all. You know the the military was you don't need a gas stove or a colander for any of this, and the Air Force was brand new and nukes brand new. And This, say for the air travel air travel is at greater risk tosh crash even though the way that warheads are made, they're not. They're not easy to explode there there multiple instances of of playing of airplanes carrying. Live nukes that crash sometimes devastatingly but. The bums don't explode because they're they're made not to explode until they're armed in a certain way but I guess you've still lost a very expensive can he's a military hardware but the train you know and their heavy at the time at like warheads got smaller and smaller as the technology enabled it in the early ones were much larger. Anyway in order to keep these trains subtle and secrets from prying eyes of the department, of energy, painted them totally white. Wage. But no other train is white no, no, and no other train has gun tour. I can't even think of Thomas Train. That's right now why didn't they? Them read like James The red engine bright or just paint them lake trains that just say like Birla Burlington Northern Santa Fe on the side of all the confusion and delay although in nineteen fifty one wouldn't have been a livery but go ahead. Why did they want to look special? Yell. Must have confusing. I I'm not sure they're you know they were trying to balance. A certain amount of like. Don't mess around with this train a certain a certain amount of signaling like an insect would do in its coloration to say this is poisonous. So if you're going to if you're like a Hobo, maybe don't hop this one. But at the same time, you know not announcing it with with. By painting it like a Bumblebee but really painting white is you couldn't make it more conspicuous. You are saying this is a weird train of some kind. It's a weird train. It's not clear whether it's a circus train or a quarantine trainer, but for decades these trains. Plied. The rails of America. Sending nukes out from Pantex to all the places where nukes needed to go and There were tracks built. Right into the BANGER submarine. Base here. In in Charleston. And tracks sort of you know webbing out across the United States places no one else would ever want to go just these sidings that kind of go through a barbed wire fence and the white train goes in there and drops off it's it's a holocaust stick. I mean white train really does seem like. Like if there was a band white trains, you would assume it was some final solution related. It sounds like joy division or something does white trains and I'm surprised there wasn't a successful ban. They're probably fifty band's called white train but. Did. You think about that guns and roses song I'm on wide train, but it's not really well trained. It's night train right? was there were there conspiracy theories about them like the black helicopters of the over the same period there didn't need to be because everybody knew what they were. Oh, this was not a secret. I mean it was it was it was a secret in plain sight. I'm sure that there were KGB agents stationed along the way who who pulled out their pocket pen that was actually a transmitter and said, the train has just gone the by they're just recruiting those nerdy train spotter guys but it's like it's not hard to see. It's not hard to see and not hard to know what it is. If you're if you know what I mean, it makes it. Trivial to know where all the the missile launching installations. All right e- right and I mean. If you drive past a dairy queen in might not north. Dakota and it's set way back from the road and surrounded by Concertina wire. You can bet that it's not actually a dairy queen, it's really an ICBM site. It's the concertina wire that gives it away. Does he think they had a white caboose? They did they had white caboose that had that were full of special forces. Guys who were there I think that I must violate some US lock we should be read. Yeah. Well, the often the locomotives were just normal. BURLINGTON northern livery with Thomas Library. You say livery or library I thought it was livery. Well, let's call it livery. Isn't it library I? It's another one of these words said. The. You hear that you read read and have no idea how to say I mean I know for it it must come from. Horses, right like you always say a livery stable. Yeah. The only question is whether it's livery or livery both are excel okay livery livery. But trains. Traveled across America on a routinely. Delivering Nukes and taking decommission nukes back. For decades? And it wasn't until the late seventies that a That A. Apiece activists. Who is a member of of This was an era of late seventies. Early eighties was an era where there was a lot of. a lot of energy in the. Sort of. Liberation. Theology. Aspect of Catholicism. In Central America there was a there was a very activist group of Catholics were wide who became engaged. In the peace movement. Really, really sort of actively engaged not just in the anti nuke or antiwar movement but in a in promoting kind of Marxist ideology in the Third World Specific Latin, America specifically Latin America where Catholicism already had a tremendous way. It would. It would have been maybe a harder sell in Vietnam although there was a lot of Catholicism there but it was it didn't have the ubiquity that it did in El Salvador. For instance, if you're if you're the Catholic church in El Salvador noise seventy, you're you're the you're the biggest show show in town than the government to counter you know whatever the the. dictator. To to to work not just on behalf of not just against war and violence, but on behalf of. Of the underprivileged which is kind of what you would assume that theology would kind of direct you to do although. Although that Liberation Theology sect of Catholicism Ran Afoul of the Vatican it wasn't like celebrated necessarily in Catholic hierarchy's well, it probably caused a lot of governmental problems. Right. Wing dictator they wanted to keep a good relationship. You know what? Hippies are problem no matter where they come from whether it's the Vatican or Berkeley or within the US State Department we've got a bunch of hippies from the Vatican living in our backyard and it's the worst the little. Piles of dirt appear at night. Yeah and you don't know what to do like can I put bombs down there? They're back. They're back there like flogging themselves all the time. But. A man by the name of Jim. Jim Douglas who was living here in the Pacific northwest and active in that kind of swords to plowshares era of Anti War anti nuke stuff noticed these white trains and he actually bought a house. Just outside of the submarine base. And Robertson in in. In pulse go rhino the sub base out in KITSAP. and. And the sort of ominousness of these white trains did not escape. Either they did feel like. Harbingers of the apocalypse. And so he started to make a make noise about them and just try to direct our attention to these things that were hiding in plain sight, and I think probably if you were sitting at a train crossing in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five and a white train went past and you know they, they had very strict speed limits on them. So white trained went past but not fast thirty, five miles an hour lots lots of time for everyone in. Town to check it out and yet at the same time, it would seem so mundane that you might. You might see them go by all the time and just never register what they were. There are work trains there are there are trains that are doing various jobs on railroads plus guys in dark suits, shop eraser memory, or kidnapped, or just shoot you right between the eyes looking at the trade. Center. Is your memory that's the most effective way of doing. But, but Jim Douglas started to call attention to it and an activated the Catholic workers. Movement. And people started to protest. They started to protest the trains they would. They Pretty Smart Angle Yeah. Because nuclear stuff is coming through your community, right? So you don't even have to be some kind of. Unpatriotic. anti-nuke fringe person to be on the barricades. It's a it's a really good angle. Well, and here's the other thing about Catholics they're everywhere that's what happened in my backyard. So so the word went out and all of a sudden, all these little crossroads, all these little towns across. America. People from the local parish, which from the local parish would go down and protest the train as it came through and. You realize all of a sudden these trains are going through hundreds and hundreds of little towns, and as the word gets out, there are hundreds and hundreds and then hundreds of protests happening. Initially, sort picketing the trains as they went through but increasingly. Blocking the trains. And and is this on the strength of? Is this just is the messaging. This is just generically this is some generic no nukes thing or is it like nuclear materials are coming through our town where our kids play? That was the angle, but it was it was largely I mean the big picture was no nuke. So wasn't there wasn't that dangerous I mean you're saying these warheads are not gonNa know the trains themselves don't pose any danger other than that other than the fact that the trains are targets. Yeah. That's true and when you think about the trains being targets of the Soviets, that's one thing but they're also targets of. Nine eleven wasn't the first terrorist action. And Nuclear warheads have always held an appeal to non state actors you know if if. If Ada or The. IRA. Meinhof yet could have gotten a hold of one and just. Used it as a as a threatening device even if they couldn't have set it off just to say they have it in a warehouse somewhere in there and they go in every once in a while and hit with a hammer what are you gonNa do about it. So these trains, just their presence is an attractive nuisance right? You don't want your town to be the one that. The P. L. O. Decides is the place they're going to hijack this train suddenly the in Fresno. This is the well, it's just like anti-fis is out in forks. I mean you do get the same level of community opposition when say Coltrane's? Yeah. Go through right like there's a lot of that in. Northern Washington Joaquin County. Because worried about the dust coming off, the dust is actually toxic and and pernicious, and there was an issue we were in Montana. Last week we were visiting glacier national park in the the the. Train line that still goes through there is almost entirely. Oil. Tankers. Day After Day and they're going right along the river where we're rafting and the guide says, you know if if if some train ever tipped and fell into the river, like that would be just an unprecedented ecological disaster united's like this, this would float downstream to the. We're on the middle of the flathead, but that's GonNa flow into the whatever and from thence into the Columbia and from the Pacific I mean this, this would be some Valdez level Exxon Valdez. level. ECO disaster in multiple multiple ecosystems. And I guess nobody even thinks about that. But that does happen. I mean. Trains are deadly trains, trains, crash all the time. Confusion delay confusion into the engine society that don't WanNa, help out. They're not being useful and then next thing you know oils like. Well. So in the protesting of these trains, it became a became a source of embarrassment for the Department of Energy and for the whole sort of. Nuclear Machine. And it was this Reagan. Administration era. where? The the question of of. Of An arms race and of of this. You know this looming Armageddon really really. Although it had it had been risks since the fifties and various times throughout the mid century. There was a heightened sense of like duck and cover all those all the bomb shelters that were built in the fifties and sixties. We'll by the seventies, people had become kind of blase about it. They'd put Shag carpeting in their in their show bombshell, but by the playing Pong in their the mid eighties Reagan's. Particular brand of saber, rattling everyone was again reminded and on constant alert. against. The idea that that by design that was the message. That's right. There's an evil empire coming for us. It could happen at any moment yet. But this was this was embarrassing enough that in Nineteen eighty-four. They attempted to. Solve the problem by changing the color of the trains and just first thing I would have done painting them. Russell. discolored but did they didn't just pay them train color. They did they painted some of the cars train colored some of them. They painted flat train some of them they painted a red train. It's just like a guy with model trains. Sure. They come out of the kit white but then you make them more questions you gonNA eat up dusty. That's right. But that didn't work and it started to be a situation where nuns were standing out on the tracks, stopping trains, nuns tied to train trombones. Like my dreams, it's scary. It was a super bad look at and in one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven men by the name of Brian Wilson. No? Relation? Actually. went out and stood in front of a train in the in the process of one of these. Protests and the train crew didn't stop and ran him over and cut off both his legs like on purpose like we're sick of these guys. Well, that was a question. There was. You Know Brian Wilson ended up suing and there was ample time for them to stop I. Guess Plenty of evidence that they could've and should've. The train crew said they assumed that he would get out of the way because they were train. and. I think Brian Wilson actually ended up. Winning some money in that suit he's still alive and still an activist became a lawyer I think and and active in. Continues to be kind of active not in the anti nuke world because that's not as. Flashy anymore. But. Piece kind of stuff and. SORTA. Leftist. Stuff. This is a this is a world of acronyms, the Department of Energy, the Department of Defense. As you know, these are acronym generating organizations really why they exist. I. Mean the the weapons are just a aside product of the acronyms. There's a there. Within the Department of Energy, there was a subgroup called the National Nuclear Security Administration or the NSA. That's so much better than eight NSA twice as good as the NFC NSA. These these railcars that they built to carry the nukes where called s ours or safe secure railcars hold on, they don't need to be safe insecure they. In the same boat safe and secure so they're safe from accident and secure. See Secure as a military term, the sense of of operational secure. That's right up security. And these these real acronyms. acronyms and rail born an acronym is accurate and it's not used anymore born acronyms. Eventually encountered enough social resistance so that in these towns across America, there were people blocking the rails everywhere that the. The National Nuclear Security Administration just decided that transporting nukes by rail was just it was no longer. A viable method and like a lot of things where. Where people go into action. To. To, effect positive. Change. The end result was perhaps not what they anticipated. To. Whack a mole, let's say where the hammer and you find that the mole just POPs up somewhere else that's there should be a game based on that idea it does seem on that Metaphor Fun Idea In this case, the Department of Energy just decided to maybe do what they should have been doing the whole time, but also it doesn't help. Any aspect of safe or secure that they just decided to start using trucks? and rather than paint the trucks white, they just painted them truck color. They made the trucks look trucks. And they started putting nukes in the trucks and sending them out still from PANTEX. And delivering them to all the various locations. In my estimation, they should have just painted them in Fedex livery but they they put a driver and brown shorts there. Yeah. They just painted them gray like trucks and sent them off now the the only way that you would be able to identify them as being full of nukes. Because the government. Likes to just like Seattle tried to put. Traffic circles in intersections to keep traffic flowing. But then because it Seattle, they also put stop signs on those intersections. So read thereby eliminating any advantage, a utility of the traffic circle. They made these trucks. So that they would completely blend in but then put them in convoys with like ten black windowed SUV's full of special forces, guys and shadowed by Blackhawk, helicopters and whatnot. How come? How is there no movie about trying to steal a nuke from a from a US trainer track? In broken era I think it's a plane. It's a plane. Yeah. Is there a movie there should be a movie and and there should be a movie because it's extremely fascinating what they did with these trucks they recognize that the trucks are. Much. Partner to defend than a train because the train you can armor and a train can't be. You can't steal a train and take it on a journey train can state has to stay on track? Yeah. You can't hide it in a under a copse of trees except for two locomotive, he leaves the tracks he leaves the tracks. The the white train did not leave the tracks but the trucks are by their very nature off the tracks and so they built these trucks. In a way that. is so cinematic So ripe for exploitation in a James Bond Film. the the trucks were made by Sandia labs initially and Sandia is. An, enormous company. Charged primarily with. Like making goldfish crackers making goldfish crackers and stuff that stuff that kind of. Orbit around. Keeping Nukes. Safe. A big government contractor for nuclear nuclear accessory. Yeah. That's right. Sandia has eleven thousand employees and a and a three and a half billion dollar budget and what they do is. Key make nukes safe question, Mark Question Mark. I don't make nukes. They just make them safe, but they did make. Be Safe secure trailers or S S tease. which were initially towed by or towed by these safeguards transporter or. Not These are all again under the an essay National Nucleus Securities Nuclear Security Administration. We're going to switch to nuclear now come on new newly cure your. Louis Louis Occur. What if Jimmy? Carter said new cure newly. Eventually they. They upgraded that to the new mobile guardian transporter, the M. G. T.. The the semi itself is the. Is The S. T. G. But the. New Mobile Guardian transporter is. The. Trailer. Now. Actually, the tractor trailers are made by Peterbilt. Which is owned by Paccar here in Washington state, but the trailers the whole thing is the whole operation is armored. The tractor trailer is armored like an armored car I'm sorry the tractor, the the the semi. This radio armored the fuzzy dice armored. Yeah. It's got. It's got that big. They look over look like sleepover ones. It's got that big area in the back that normally has a has a bunk bed with a VCR and. Some fuzzy dice and a bunch of porn movies and Bong or whatever it is the truckers do. But in this case, it's full of. Navy seals. It has gun ports on the side, but you know you wouldn't know it by looking at it as it went past you on the highway but the trailer itself is fascinating. The trailers armored within the trailer is a separate. Hardened. Inner trailer an inner sleeve if you will. That can that holds the the warheads. But the whole thing is built. To have. Somewhat. autonomous. Security measures so that if the truck were to wreck or if a bond villain were to swoop down. With a giant claw on the. That descends from a dirigible and grab a tractor trailer and lifted up into the sky. It would not be a simple matter of extracting the warheads because inside the trailer itself has. A series of devious riddle, a series of devious riddles. One of the things it does is explode a bunch of foam that hardens and not only. Hardens the warhead inside of this phone. But if you were a person that got in the trailer, the foam would envelope you and smother the Consuelo the the the trailer deploys tear gas. The trailer. As a lot of stuff that the Department of Energy doesn't even give an acronym. But they're very, they're they're they're cagey about telling us that there are these security measures. Even if you hijack struck, you won't get the new, but we're not going to tell you the ten bad things are going happen. Now it's basically like Some darts come out of the wall a giant. Ground Rock Rolls. Down a down Aram, it's an escape room you fall through a hole. And all of this kind of came to public attention in nineteen ninety one when a tractor trailer carrying nukes. On the side of the. Highway. Some of these security measures just went off accident toll in one, thousand, nine, hundred, one. In not, surprisingly North Dakota. Up along highway eighty, three near Bismarck North Dakota. All of the nukes love to live underneath dairy queens. There was A. Semi truck that the foam. Went off without. Without any kind of like inciting provocation tappan to all of us from time to time I write fellas. Suddenly. A like a semi standing on the side of the road on the shoulder. Surrounded by. Like coordoned-off surrounded by special forces, guys smoking and full of. Sending fire works up and there was a bubble machine and it had activated a bunch of scary clowns. And people couldn't help but notice until the area was cordoned off and. The truck had turned into optimus prime the dark had turned into optimus prime. And the problem was that. There in order to get the nukes out. You have to now defeat. and. So they're specially trained group of guys that came and got the new got the nukes out. Gupta got the whole operation out of there and into a secure environment. But it kind of alerted the world to the fact that. The problem with the white trains was. We could see them. and. The semis immediately faded into invisibility and as a result, there is no protest against them. There's no nobody's conscious of the fact that when you're out on the highway in the middle of the night and. A black SUV goes by and then another one and then a third one and then a semi trailer and then two more black SUV's. The the savvy. Person will pause there podcast and say I wonder what's going on there. Nobody's going to see other truckers and no one will believe them. A brief period after the white trains and before the end of the Cold War where. the Reagan. Administration. Toyed with the idea of semi trucks. Being launchers. Having ICBM's in them concealed. And being able to. in the event that we went to Defcon one. that. And it started with a there was a version of based on trains that they would be waiting in depots and in the event that that it got to. The point where looked like war was imminent. Imminent start sending out these trains a just like hit the road right and and then, and then the evolution of that being the trucks and the ideas, their mobile you can't target like us I can't target them. You never know where they are. They would just go out into the fields and farms and be able to pull over to the side of the road and a very short notice. Launch a missile. Oh, sure. I had those mask toys when I was a kid I think all of 'em could launch missiles whether they were tractor trailers or whatever. I didn't know maybe maybe Reagan was playing with the Mobile Armored Strike Aman toys will. Almost, certainly a chicken or egg right? There are just a few more acronyms. There's the there's there. After, after we segue to. Put. Him On cigarettes did. Immediately immediately upon the invited Segue segue singling across America's boardwalks. When you see them, go by, you know the segues speaking of traffic circles with stop signs the segues that have three wheels. Those are the ones that are nuclear. Capable, no. After after, we went to truck based new delivery. Of course, there needed to be a new office for that, and that that office is called the office of secure transport or or the tea. Which has The Transportation Safeguards Division or the tst. And all of this is coordinated by the transportation and Emergency Control Centre or T. E. C.. C.. TAC. Which is based out of Albuquerque. As of the last counting, there are three, hundred, twenty, two of these. A truck based nuke couriers still. America's highways and byways right now. Still still still leaving pantex and on their way to to various locales, there's a whole. There's a whole set of procedures where in the event of an accident or the event of any incident that happens with these trucks that state troopers. All have been read in. To. The. The to their role in the response. So you know there's various envelopes of authority from the White Envelope and the the troopers, Coordin- off this area, and then the National Guard and then the Department of Energy. But they're they're all still there and I cannot wait you know future links really embraced the mail trucks the photo Matt's the. The quonset huts. Like the the washing bears like future links, love an assignment and what I wanna see more than anything else is some some detective work some photographic evidence. Of some of these. Riskier Life Secure trailers to take pictures in but no one wants to take pictures of and send them to both them on though web. They're they're still there and and most. Most curiously, this whole system and all these acronyms ICK offices. are still fighting the Cold War. There's no. There's no use case scenario for any of this broad question. Don't we already have enough nukes in the places where we need them aren't we tree limited by how many we can wired is this is this a maintenance issue why? Why is new stuff's? Huntsville going out some of them I mean they need to. They need to be repainted. You know like a lot of them are are annuals you have to plan them every year transmission we're going to have to i. mean the whole thing is is is. It's a kind of theater. You know the the I mean you can see why the offices want to self perpetuate. That's a budget line item that they want to keep going but. There's a there's a bill right now to build the next generation of strategic submarines. Each one costs a handful of billions of dollars the the argument being that our fleet of nuclear Missile submarine like our mail trucks are. Becoming too aged to perform their task and the idea that the whole that the notion of strategic deterrence is an obsolete notion isn't one were prepared to consider it hasn't filtered down yet. So so we're we're on the cusp of authorising a whole new generation of. Of boomer subs while as long as you've got some weird runaway cultural relic in your culture at least its nuclear weapons. Right of all the things that could have outlived their usefulness at least it's nukes because no downside there right right now, there is a white train in our Morello that at when white trains went off line they just parked. On a siding, and now there's a movement to turn it into a biondi to rehabilitate it because people are afraid like Oh. This is they're just going to scrap this one day and this whole era of of American history will be lost, and so there's actually like a group of people trying to restore get an easy this last white train and Pantex kind of into it. They're like Oh. Yeah. That's. Right it is kind of cool. Here's my conspiracy theory. You tell me if this is possible, go the whole thing was a false flag operation. This massive infrastructure of dramatically colored trains just existed deep provide a false star. In fact, they were just putting the nukes in the back of of a Cadillac Deville. Driving them somewhere like after after putting these big heavy foam deploying things into trucks and trains. then. When the president just or who was ACDC Mike and they've got a big fake tour bus on the guys just out back in some beat up van or something right so you're saying that repo man was Cunanan. That's exactly right. Repo man is Q.. You heard it here first. That concludes. White trains. Trains. Do. You think it's white transit white trains. Trains was thinking like White, plains New York White Trans new. York white train white trains entry one, four, two, nine, dot is one, three, zero, five, certificate number two, five, one, five, four in the omnibus. Speaking relics of outlived their cultural usefulness. In John. No John. You social media that's the relic. You. 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16: Mercedes EQS, Hyundai Santa Cruz, Auto Shanghai Oddities, And Much More

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16: Mercedes EQS, Hyundai Santa Cruz, Auto Shanghai Oddities, And Much More

"Ooh today on rambling about cars. Debuts more new vehicles debuted in the last week than we've had in the last several months and we're not gonna talk about all of them but we are gonna talk about some of them some of them that That standout some of them. That are important. Some of them that we just flat out wanna talk about that being said ladies and gentlemen friends delightful drivers of the world. It is podcast. time. I'm christopher smith crossed the way co host chris bruce. How're you doing bruce. I'm doing pretty good. I was about to say you almost forget saints. Podcast time but you got. I got there in the ever. Forget that so two night we have kyle connor with us and he will be our guest he is. He sometimes works for our our friends at i-it's or partners. He's also from spec studios. Kyle tell us a little bit about yourself. Yeah hey guys yet. Just as you mentioned a lot of time spent with inside these. We've a weekly show over there that we do podcast every friday morning and yet thanks for having me on should be a blast us super into cars. My whole life love Electric cars combustion cars things with two wheels. I actually just recently reviewed one of those mining earthmovers which is can be how it is. I think one of the largest vehicles in the world actually which is amazing. So a blast. Can we skip some of these using just talk about my which brand of my tenure s wants to just get a big model of that and play with it. Yeah it was called the hitachi. Eh four thousand and okay which is great. It looks like a giant taketo. i was actually just editing. That video came on here. I was over goodyear's proving grounds where we were driving tesla model s at the four thirty. I chimera one all over with the. What is that giant machine and it has like twelve foot tall tires. That cost one hundred thousand dollars a piece. And i was like can i drive it. And they're like. Yeah so i just. There's zero wanted a beaver. Can i drive that riley and so that was the highlight of my automotive career. I think i'll never be able to reach that status again and so that video will be on our out of spec reviews channel. Probably this weekend or early next week so keep an eye out for it. The hitachi h hord house and earth acid and that means that needs to be name of some super suv from somebody. Yeah it's the eh. four thousand your neighbors for dinner meat you of it now Here we go. This is it next to to tesla. Sorry for the delay. So for god's for of our audio listeners. The voter youtube because he needed to see that. The tesla basically comes up to the side wall on the tires and then there's a whole lot more tire so the bottom line like the bottom lower side won't like yeah those those things. We should mention that. I mean i mean the reason we ask. Kyle to join us there. Were all kinds of vehicle debuts and a lot of a more electric we're seeing i mean folks were in the age of electric vehicles. This is sort of. i mean. It's an exciting time. We're at the we're not necessarily even at the beginning anymore. We're at the moment where here we are. It's not just all occasional or a little niece thing it's going mainstream and we have some really good offerings to talk about. Do we want to start there. What are we wanna start. There's so many vehicles to choose from well if we want to start with an e we can do that we can start talking about. Probably the biggest debut in my opinion a while. And that's the mercedes benz iki s. Yes the the flagship. Yes dan. that's took the internet's at least automotive kind of internet by storm because it does bear kind of resemblance to the old chrysler. Cab forward cars. We saw a few of those photoshop. I will try rendering. Which i love chrysler. Three hundred for the time hundred m you know. I will show an actual image of car while we're talking about it. I will try to find that rendering. Because i know i know you. You covered a lot on that. You read that entire sixty page mercedes-benz press release yet. Did that spoke to like six different engineers on it played around with the person. I was one of the lucky handful that got to spend some time in person with this car is well and happy to talk about anything here but i think the highlights are This is mercedes. Big approach at basically going after the luxury v segment Certainly overshooting model s in terms of quality in terms of luxury We are unsure about driving dynamics. But we can assume it's going to be as an class should and it's really going to be up there with the closer to maybe the lucid air or a faraday future f f ninety. I think if that ever becomes a think so certainly playing in a luxury level higher than model s i mean i. I think it looks fantastic. I know at the press release kind of talked even about that cab forward approach because obviously there's no engine up front. Everything is pushed forward And this car. I mean it's an s class or or it's the electric s class. So you know it's going have a lot of space inside. But i mean it really has a lot of space inside so real quick before we talk about the inside. I wanted to roll back on something. You said smith the fact that there's nothing under the hood and mercedes has made it so that you never even have to open the hood because the windshield wiper. Fluid refill is the flap on the side of the car. Cork alert i actually. Yeah i wrote a little article about that and it's I don't know this art design decision. Don't i mean because it sort of breaks up the line on the outside of the car. But i mean it's it's done in an way and i guess i think theorized in my article where the quickest way to ruin your weekend vacation is if you are spilling your washer fluid when you've got it back in the truck with all your goods and of course anybody that's ever filled washer. Fluid knows you're gonna spill a little bit of it so hey need to put it outside it kind of breaks up the lines. But why isn't it under the hood. Because the i get there is no hood to open which which. I found rather fascinating as well. There's no. There's no franck area to a anything increasingly vs or getting less and less bronx especially as we're seeing sort of these auto makers that. Are you know from traditional combustion. Engine makers now switching to electric first off as an owner of. I think three different evi with front trunks personally. I never used one. How many times i've ever used the front trunk. I don't think they're necessary. And honestly they're pretty clunky to open and close sometimes like for example. I drive a model three. Invite you got put your hand in a certain spot or it'll knuckle the aluminum and then it's like a pain in the butt. So when mercedes did here was they went for this clam shell. Giant hood design all in the effort to get the lowest coefficient of drag of any series production vehicle in history and a lot of this meant tucking the edges around which means the hood can be opened but only by a service center of course and you know the washer fluid on the side there. I saw this in person i was. I actually don't think it's that elegantly done. I think this is a poor design decision. I think it breaks up makes the car unseen metrical side to side and a end. They put it on the driver's side which is like every time you walk up to your car. You gotta see this thing and all you're thinking this washer fluid every time you get into your s class and so i think it's a really dumb choice to put it. they're you know it's mercedes benz. They could've thought of so. Many more elegant solutions have a tube running from the side view mirror into the tank so different options and this is not not the best work they've done. I think i would really love to hear from somebody at mercedes. The the methodology behind placing that in the fender. I've it it almost strikes me as or making electric car. And it's designed to be from the get go. It's not an internal combustion car that we've converted but yet we can't get rid of the side field or you know so real quick. I wanna hit one thing. And that is just kind of some very basic tech specs that we know so at launch. We're going to be getting to berge in the us. There's the four fifty with a three hundred and twenty nine horsepower. Four hundred and six pound feet and that's rear wheel drive only and then there's the e. u. s. five eighty four matic which is mercedes all-wheel-drive term and that's five sixteen horsepower and six hundred eleven pound feet and they're quoting a four point one second sprint to sixty four the quicker one for the powerful nations back so that's a you know for big sedan for big luxury sedan. I you know four point. One seconds seems fine. I but at the same time. I think people i they've gotten so used to hearing tesla doing zero to sixty in like two seconds and they don't i mean you see four point one seconds guys. That's fast four. Point seconds is fast and in some big. And i think that goes over a lot of people's heads. The buyer doesn't care for this car. How fast is zero to sixty. You're not going to see these things. Launching red lights Personally i think if you're really only care about speed you're going to go for the model s. because that's the one trick. Pony does extremely well launches quite art You know in terms of rage. You're gonna have a same battery. Pack hundred seven point eight kilowatt hour usable on both the four fifty plus and the five eighty however the five eighty like peru's mentioned is going to be that all wheel drive system. The rear motor. I believe is the same across both which is interesting. Just the level of detail. That mercedes went into this dr trade system. They actually have a a a double winding in the rear butter. So it's six phases instead of a three phase. You have two different three-phase phases on the rear. Axle means that the motors going to be really smooth to produce big power across a wide speed range and it means repeatability of performance. So while this isn't going to be the fastest car zero to sixty burr said's claims it's not gonna just fall on. Its face overheat after a lot of quick driving. Let's just say and real quick before we get into the interior. The other interesting thing to me at least is the range claim. And they're saying that this could get as much as four hundred and seventy eight miles of ranged according to the wwl teepee standard and. That's that's tesla beating. If i'm not mistaken or kyle help out there yet. Wwl is just the bunch of in my opinion. It's no doubt achievable It's it's a totally You know overinflated range estimates across almost every vehicle. The epa's probably going to be in that high three hundreds of very low for hundreds not bad anymore in my opinion but range doesn't matter on an easy in my opinion it's all about the charging speed and how quickly you can charge it and then get back on the road for ninety nine percent of people's driving it's going to be from home to work home to work pretty much any. Ev can do this. Ideally driving electric smart car with fifty miles of range. And i'm totally fine going to starbucks in the morning and going around the the big thing for an av again not range in my opinion. I actually think we'll see a shift towards smaller battery packs well into the future When there's a larger influx of charging hardware that's a whole nother problem. We should talk about some point. But yeah it's all about. They charging speeds and for how long it can sustain that that peak speed for so mercedes. Engineers claim two hundred kilowatt peak dc fast charging but it can sustain that pretty deep into the pack which is a big deal for road tripping a lotta mustang mckeever for example claim a big number but can only hold it for a short period of time. So this'll be interesting to to play around with. So let's talk about what i think is the absolute most impressive thing about the tech. Specs are cool but look at that interior folks. If you're watching a youtube video you'll be able to see it now. Mercedes calls screen it is. It's actually one screen even though there's a single vessel for that all kind of incorporates it in the one thing it's three separate screens but they look fantastic. Look it looks like the future. I mean the best way to describe it. It looks like the future you have like. You said it's not one screen. There there are three separate screens in their one. Besset budget. yeah. I mean it's behind this kind of one big expense and i mean i think it looks fantastic. I wonder if it would lead to kinda Screen exhaustion maybe after a while If if if you tend to be a little sensitive to some of those things. I mean it's it's all digital digital from side to side. I mean lots of great functionality. But let's also talk about. I mean the rest of the interior of the the the center console design. I think it's a very elegant design. It just it really it the rest of the interior here really. I think complements what they did with that big massive digital dash. And i mean you you expect that sort of thing for mercedes though right. Yeah you would. And the thing is kyle. I heard i listened to the last episode of the podcast. And i recommend our listeners. Absolutely check that out too and you guys were talking about the us. And i believe it was you. It might have been martin. Who brought up the kennedy differences between what we're seeing here and what we see in a tesla model. S tesla minimalism. This is basically maximalism will throw every bit of light and screen and whatever we can at you because you are a mercedes benz buyer. You're spending six figures on this car and so you deserve the best. Am i put words in your mouth there. I could've could have said that you're absolutely right either way. If you were putting the words in my mouth. I was correct. It look first off. I got to spend a couple of hours in the interior of the us. It's a great place to spend time beautiful seats. The ones you're seeing here. Are the comfort seats. Two different seating options comfort and sport. I give for the comforts to get nice pillows on the headrest to personally. I don't like the hyper straight. So i totally disagree with you guys there. I think in person that looked a little weird pretty reflection any fingerprints for sure now. They claim that it's at the right angle. They've tinted the top of the windshield. They've baked in especial silicate to not show fingerprints but in actuality it's it's not one giant screen you have to ten point two inch displays driver and passenger at a seventeen point seven in the middle there. Oh led screens on the right to driver instrument. Clusters lcd tons of great technology here in terms of forging the glass at six hundred and fifty degrees c. It's really impressive. Piece of engineering. They had to like build in crash. Safety eating sued the screen itself. So there's like hexagon amounts that are designed to break away behind the air. Vents if you have a severe side and act like it's crazy the amount of effort that went into this. But here's the thing if no one sitting in the passenger seat the passenger displays not useable so therefore you're left with the center display at your so you're driving swing. Clustering your senator display. Which would be no different. If you didn't get the hyper screen and then you get a really nice. Would dash behind there. And so it's not like you gain any functionality with the screen there's no extra features or options that can come you ex works the same as it would on the twelve point eight center display. And you know it's hard to say if it's going to be worth the money because all use spec equal five eighty s come standard with this screen. The four fifty plus will be quite an expensive option. They wouldn't tell me the price Getting all wheel drive. You're getting hyper screen. You don't have to worry about it but if you want the range spec the one that goes farthest which is the four fifty plus the rear wheel drive. I personally wouldn't spec it i. I don't think it's worth any bit of money to me. At least that. I prefer having a dash. You make a very interesting point. We're seeing these. Were seen this dash from the perspective of how mercedes wants us to see it exactly with their press photos Seen it in person. Yeah with the with the thought of okay. The house smudge here. These screens are gonna get. What's that ambience. You raise some good points. It's a it's always good to remember. Hey automakers they put on their their best their best suit if you will when their advertising these cars so i'm very interested to see this. I definitely absolutely because it looks really cool. I think it looks. I mean i. It looks like the future. But i mean mercedes has always. Ibm especially with their with their flagships. They've always had that reputation of okay. Here's what other automakers will be doing. Probably five ten years from our. We're doing it right now. So be interesting to see how it goes. Yeah my takeaway on this car is it's really Great electric vehicle tech more so than we've ever seen from daimler a way better than each you see for example which doesn't come to our shores So blow blew me away in terms of electrical tech. I wouldn't say that lucid or tesla levels but way more than i was expecting plus everything. Great that we've learned and loved about the new s class for example ten degrees or rear. Steer great you know. Of course comfort oriented driving dynamics all of these things coming together. I think to make one of the most impressive and intoxicating electric vehicle packages for a luxury buyer. Mercedes can just do things that no startup can ever dream of chart for sure so moving on from a car. That's certainly gonna cost six years undoubtedly to one that you're actually going to be worth thinking thirties. Maybe even low thirties to start and the very first pickup truck for this brand in the united states. What we talk about the hyundai santa cruz. Yes let's talk about the hyundai. Santa cruz i i. I think our listeners know that. I'm not really a truck guy but now twice since we've started this a revamp podcast in january. I've said i would kind of dig. That was the ford bronco. Which okay. that's not really a truck but it it kind of has that offered ambience An hyundai santa cruz. I'm i'm gonna make a fairly bold statement here right now i think. Hyundai is the automaker leading the world when it comes to design choices everything. They're coming out with right now pretty much. Everything is just hitting me right in the fields. And i've never been a fan of big grills but hyundai's big grill Especially this new kind of blended design yet. They start with the tucson. it looks good. I think it looks good. And we have that here on the santa cruz. It's a compact truck. I've never been one. That's needed a large truck. That had said. I did once own an f to fifty super cab. Long box diesel. That for reasons. I can't explain. If i could get it back i would i. I don't make sense right. That's why i write about guards It's got the two point five liter engine. It's standard with all wheel drive in the base format. The engine is naturally aspirated. And i believe it's making a hundred ninety horsepower. So that was weird thing. Hyundai said one ninety plus eighty plus for torque. They wouldn't come out with specific numbers for either the base motor or the optional engine. We at least to be one ninety. It'll it'll it'll be around there. I mean automakers do me less than that. They do that when maybe they're still going through some emissions will. We'll see how much we can. We can get away with before you know we have to cut it up so you get one ninety one. Eighty torque with the turbo. It's a better check. My notes on that to seventy five to seventy five seventy five and three tenths. I mean in something that small the term. I mean it's going to be. It's not gonna have any trouble getting out of its own way. Even with the base engine won't be bad because it's a smaller vehicle The downside is and i find this kind of ironic as well because hyundai anybody to call this pickup truck. This this is what a sport adventure vehicle that's correct. It's not a truck. Obviously it's a it's a unibody vehicle you know with the up. Full-on straight side. The bed is separate and that bet is also pretty small. It's i think it's just over just uh inches. I think fifty two point one inches which just what four three four feet twenty four feet and if you have the optional tunnel. Cover package on retracted. The floor is still that long. But that package cuts back another one another. I think another four five inches into the bed. It's it's yeah. It's so i'm going to lose. You're going to lose some functionality. Their one of their press photos actually They have an option. It's like a little cover for the back of the tailgate where you can load your bike in the back and then the bike hangs over the tailgate. And as i haven't smith. That's the photo. I wanted to talk about what they okay. Gwen was bringing up right now. Because i thought that was just one of the weirdest press photos. I've ever seen here to talk about it. Just a second. I'm pulling it all with our youtube viewers. immediate. I mean realistically in this day and age. People want to buy a a one-size-fits-all vehicle so you can't really go hold school with the single cab pickup truck with the longer bed. So if you're doing something that's fairly small in size. I mean the bed is obviously going to take up. Take the biggest hit there. Yeah we're looking at it now on youtube. It's the back of the santa cruz with a mountain bike in the bed and yet is in the bed. It's like it's like eighty five eighty seventy. It's mostly in the bed and it has that protector that over. That goes over the gate. But i mean it looks like it. Looks like your neighbor dispute their bike in the back of the truck because it was late in the driveway and they weren't bothered to put it in the garage. And it's just. I know i know what they're trying to show. Hey look at the functionality of our truck but this just comes across as you know what maybe we should have made the bed a little bit bigger. Yeah so that's the thing that. This is the image that i wanted to talk about because this is the image that i saw and i'm like oh santa cruz might not be for me so just so everyone knows my wife and i. We have a twenty twelve subaru outback. I have. It's not a mountain bike. It's it's a canon dale. it's hard tail suspension. Stuff like that. I have put it in the back of our subaru with the seats down without any issue. It's fully enclosed. It's not hanging out like this is like to me and granted. That's not something i do all the time. It's something was honestly something. I could transport it from one place to another twice. But i could do it and then i look at this. I'm like i can't even put a bike in and then also hyundai shame on you. You didn't tie the bike down so if you were driving like this the handle bars or around the bite's gonna be shaken. Tie your stuff down properly hyundai. Even in your precious yeah. I thought that was just a i. Don't think that's a flattering way to advertise your sport adventure vehicle when you can't even fit your mountain bike in the back and i'm with you bruce. I was disappointed. I mean i. I understand but i was still disappointing to find. I mean how hard would it have been to make a pass through from the bed that reaches inside the cabin. We heard a lot our boss. John neff said that. All our co worker brandon. Turkish said that you know the chevy avalanche back in the day it had a pass through. You know like that's not novel technology. You could make something so if you had a longer item. You know maybe not for a bake like this but say you're hall and you know lumber or something something skis something that's longer you could fit it in by putting it through the past and now in as defense i mean they do have an optional extended where you full down the gates and they're saying that's gonna be we haven't that but they it it'll bring out and i mean obviously it does have a tailgate. You can fold things down deacons stick things out back. It's never ideal certain. But it seems to me for something like this a pass through at least for the interior. Where if you needed to go to your local hardware store and pick up. Just hypothetically some lumber because you're building a homemade racing cockpit but i've never done in my life of course you would you. Would you would rather take your pickup truck. Instead of your hypothetically two thousand four mazda six five door hatchback which could swallow actually those big eight foot long sections of two by four. You couldn't do that with the santa cruz. Unfortunately but where i feel like. We're being a little too harsh here. I think i think hyundai has come out with a very interesting vehicle. I hope that it's competitive in the smaller pickup truck market. Because we're certainly at a point where that market is expanding and i think there are many buyers out there who would like a truck. I'm not gonna call sport adventure vehicle. I'm going to call it a trade center because because what it is i think there are a lot of buyers that wants something like this. They're not interested in a full-size pickup truck. Whether it's the size whether it's the fuel economy they that's just not something they're interested in so it's nice to see some smaller options coming back. That aren't toyota or nissan. Not that there's anything wrong with those vehicles But it's nice to see something new and refreshing. And of course we have the ford maverick. That's coming out that that'll be in direct competitor with this. Yeah i wanna. I wanna take a moment here and show something that we just Posted today add more one because we were talking about the santa cruz. And you know we were theorising. What about making you know kind of the classic version of the small truck and once upon a time it. it wasn't a five seater. No yeah i it was. It was insurance eater with a longer bed right So we had these renderings commissioned. And i i mean i don't know what do you guys think about this. I mean we've basically just lopped off the the the back seats in theory this bed. I mean we. Obviously we didn't do it. He specific measurements but with the backseat out. And still some storage capacity back. There were looking at a bed. That's probably going to be six and a half foot which is industry standard really for a full size truck. Drop the tailgate with a bet. Extender your hauling. Four h. e. supply would in there. Yeah you're losing backseat capability. But i mean maybe this is a point of discussion. I think there's a. There's a niche for vehicle like this. Nobody's really making one. What do you. What do you to think totally agree this something with a big bed. Total usable personally. I would still go for the four door. Short bed for my own. Needs really all around a lot of big stuff. Mostly dogs that need to go into the backseat Personally i think you know. Smith i think you mentioned holidays really making a lot of neat stuff that's hidden in the fields I'm driving the new electra. This week is one of the cars. And it's like freaking awesome. It's great of one of the best cars of tested all year objectively to hit its marks. And i think that this is gonna drive really well. And i think if they made a two long bed all wheel drive that might be one of the neatest cars to develop like a cult following or sort of a a loyal basis off of that i would agree and and i'm with you there to at infect i i've been thinking about a new vehicle for a while now and i stumbled upon a lease deal for. I think the keya k. Five which i mean. It's pretty much the same thing as the holiday. Like one hundred. Seventy five bucks a month. And i'm like. Oh wow that's a really good looking vehicle if you wanna do a new lease so yeah they drive. Great look great kia hyundai stuff. Great driver assistance as standard in a lot of their cars to Gotta say they're really killing it almost everything of driven recently and if it could translate over to the santa cruz here it sounds like it will and i think the santa cruz is going to be super popular. We're gonna see these things out in california with surfboards. Hanging out half the back. I'm sure some we'll make one so it can go up towards the roof lots of opportunities here for accessories for styling upgrades and you know what for for most people who just drive f. one fifties totally unloaded. This is a great solution. That's that's a good point. The photo i just put up here for our non youtube watchers. This so we'll have a digital instrument. Cluster available unfortunately hyundai did not give us a very good just like full dashboard image. So we kind of have to look at a bunch of images in kind of imagine how they all look stitch together but you will be able to get a digital instrument cluster. You'll be able to get kind of. I still think it looks good. Hyundai's latest infotainment system that has the The stereo display. That makes it look like a z. Clock i'll be throwing that up here in just a second but it basically looks like vacuum tubes little numbers at him. And it's stupid like it's it's not adding any extra functionality but it looks pretty cool so that's why i'm on board with it For anyone who wants to see it. It's right there now so yeah. I don't want anyone to think that. I'm down on the santa cruz. I don't know if it's necessarily the right vehicle for me. But i love that. The compact truck segment is coming back after being gone for what thirty years when the el camino die late eighties. I mean i guess if you wanna technically talk compact truck we could go back to like twenty twelve. The last fleet versions of the Of the small ford ranger shirt. But but if we're if we're talking about like car based stuff i mean. Yeah we're going back to the eighties for the of the Right there was the behind holidays. Forget about the baa so right. This it's like the baja reincarnated with great tact that turbo. Engine sounds pretty potent and yeah. I'm sure we'll have a great warranty like every other holiday to this man seriously. It's going to be a a kick ass truck i think. Yeah i mean all of them. Standard all wheel drive the dual clutch transmission with paddle shift. So if that's on the turbo the naturally aspirated. One just gets a standard eight speed. Oh it does okay okay. And then the turbo no cdt. In the base one. It's were converted. Auto ni- eight speed automatic. that's awesome. Yep there could be a lot of potential there doesn't really do cvt hyundai and kia. Don't really well this launcher. I have has one and mazing. But it's also not terrible. But i would much prefer a direct connection somewhere chisso so gentlemen. Are we a little early to say hyundai. Santa cruz n. Ooh that could be spicy. Did you hear here. I maybe come on monday easy. It's an x existing platform. So you know would the nba in terms of performance. Like they're known or would it be the end off roti an off road. If you'd have to go off road disagree in thing. Everybody in the brothers doing the special off road truck. Who's doing on road performance truck right. Nobody ever off road. Trucks are selling really well frontier. We'll have a pro for even a two wheel. Drive pro xtreme. That's probably the closest size. Tacoma has tr d sported crt alfred. That's all i see around here in colorado. I think it would be leaving money on the table if they didn't do enough room. Maybe but i mean the classic sales tactic. i mean. go where your competition isn't. Nobody's doing an on road truck. And i don't know if i don't know of hyundai buyers would be interested in that hardcore off road. That's a good question too. So it's they build a build them both man come on you're killing it and everything else right now. Build them both so look again. Let's talk about something. That's going to be affordable. That's coming up here. Let's talk about the new honda civic so we the full debut is coming on april twenty eighth but they did debut the exterior so we can at least kind of comment on that i. I suspect this'll be kind of a shorter conversation. But you know sheriff. And while you're bringing that up. Bruce let me take a moment here to ask automakers. Why are you splitting. Up your debuts. Now this is ridiculous. If you're gonna debut the car just debut the damn car. Don't debut the exterior. I'll we'll tell you about the interior later. Sleek yeah i i know. I know the premise here. I know you want to continue the momentum. You're not continuing momentum. You're just frustrating. The people that want to talk about your car us your frustrating your customers who want to know about the car. So if you're listening wherever you're at whether it's in detroit's or japan. Australia europe if you're listening and you're automaker note no more broken up debuts here if you're going to debut the vehicle debut the vehicle and in this case we're looking at the honda civic right now and i think it's an improvement over the over the last one. Would you guys think really. I think it's dulles dishwater dishwater. Sorry it's not it's not know pizzazz. It's got no feel it's just like it's just generic. It looks a little more mature than the previous one. Does it look like the designer. Wasn't exactly sure so. They just took my advice and did them both. Here's the deal with this one. This looks like a max dot one because you can see the. Led's in the headlights. This is really gonna look bad with just halogen headlights. Or whatever the base Lighting instrument will be a kind of looks like someone got punched in the nose and then it kind of blew up a little bit and it's a little bit swollen. I think on the front end but other than that. There's the civic need to be exciting to look at. I mean this is an everyday kind of car needs to be done offensive and not so much exciting because it needs to appeal to a wide audience. I mean to me. It looks looks a little bit more. Like the accord in it. I don't have a problem with the accord either. I actually was very very close to getting a a current generation. Honda civic last year earnings. Not last year the year before So i mean. I was all over these things inside and out and i. I didn't think the exterior styling was bad. But i just it just wasn't hitting me in the right areas. It felt too busy. It felt like it was trying to be a little too saudi kyle. I have to agree with you. The civic doesn't necessarily have to be exciting As long as it's handsome as long as it's not really offensive. These cars are going to sell because they have such a great reputation for efficiency for reliability for I actually would have gots. The the civic sl two years ago If my local honda dealer had bothered to get one because there are some fantastic lease deals going and i called them. And i'm out here in rapid city south dakota so everybody stocks trucks and suv's. And i said hey. I heard that there's this lease deal going on for this for the civic sl and the salesman said yeah. I said i'll come down right now. Come on right and we'll do it the deal he says. Well we don't have one in stock. Let's like okay. Well you know. You're working to get one while i don't know of. I don't know exactly where it can get one. But i put you in a regular civic. It was like no no no no no no no no basis with. This is the car that i want. And if you get one come down right now and by it and the they just blew me off. They wanted to sell ridge lines in pilots so bitter about that a little bit but you would have had the exhaust for do we know of this. One will have the hdmi exhaust port. That'll admi isn't that the best thing about the civic s. I literally looks like you can just quarter on e. v. This is how i charge it. Writings going to be a a big seller. We know there's a huge amount of interest. I have a friend who is really into cars very much. An enthusiast of japanese vehicles love every new accurate. Debut is like he liked doesn't go to work. It's popcorn out. There is a big thing right And he's all over this. He personally feels that. This is a a serious improvement Personally i don't have that much affinity for Civics general now free start. Talking type are and some spicy stuff. I get excited. But i think. Look the the chassis have always been amazing. Naturally the sporty versions have always been impressive. I think even the current civic type r has one of the best shift or feels of any vehicle in history and If anything it should just be a pretty good platform for them to make some spicy versions later on in its life cycle. Yeah that's a good point. I'm really excited to see how it evolves later on with with some of the more interesting versions and hey you know what when it comes out. Maybe i'll give it another. Look if i haven't stepped into our hyundai or kia by then so so we're running just a little bit tight on time for this segment. So chris are you looking at our outline right now. I want you to pick the last of the big debuts of this week. let's let's i would like a because i know i mean before we do that. I mean the ferrari eight twelve. I kind of mentioned this. Bmw and three and four competition lexus. Espn vision. i mean so. Many things came about all kinds of weird stuff from the from shanghai auto show. We'll be hitting that in a second. That never be so many things but just today. We had the cadillac lyric production guys. We in production guys. They're still a lot of information we don't know about it because it's just kind of an exterior. Look but i think. I mean i think that's a. That's a big one worth talking about kyle. Have you seen. Have you seen the lear yet. Yeah i have been following it for a while personally. It's well i think. The price point is big. Sixty thousand dollars is a really good value for talaq with this much tech. It doesn't look right to me. I'm really yeah. Don't like it but i i understand a lot of people who do i get. It has i. Don't want to say zero appeal but close to zero appeal. And i don't like it because on paper i should if you were to write down. All of this car's attributes on a sheet of paper. I'd say all that's gotta be great. But i'm not loving. I think i think it comes down to the styling being a bit polarizing. Because i know in the motor one chat this morning. There are some some pretty stark divisions as to whether it looked good or look terrible. And i fall in the category of good i. I love what. I don't know if love is the right word actually When you look what they did with that rear pillar the ways designed the way the lights come up I grew up with a nineteen sixty cadillac series sixty two convertible and loved that car. It was my grandmother's car that my father bought and then he restored so there's a they made a picture. They turned a picture of me sitting in the car at age. Fifteen into this genus poster. The sits in my closet because I mean i'm i'm a narcissist. But i'm not that narcissistic i don't need a big poster of me sitting in this country but the tail lights on the lyric. They just kind of remind me a little. Bit of those. Those fifties early sixties fin designs. So maybe that's part of the appeal for me. I like that. It has something of a fastback look to it and it also has a unique look to it. And when you're talking about the crossover segment whether it's electric or otherwise. I mean i hate to say that anything different is good because you could create another aztec without thinking but in this instance. This car is going to stand out. And here is is are the tech specs gonna hold up and and these are a lot of what we don't know. How's the rings going to be i. I sort of tend to think. Gm's taking the approach of throw as many batteries as you can in their to give the range They're sort of like dumb range smart ranges. let's make the cars efficient as possible therefore which also makes it quicker and save the cost of extra weight and capacity of all the battery packs. So gm's like hummer planned like stuff as many batteries as you can in there We don't really know truly the specs on this car. And i think that's going to be for me at least the final determination because For vs there's so much more you can get wrong of very easily for automakers and we've seen some big cases of from big legacy automakers maybe legacies not the right term existing automakers and yeah. I don't know i don't know. Gm's got it. I haven't driven heavy from them yet. That's like yes. This is great. Well i think they have it. Styling wise i mean right now. They're talking about an estimated range of three hundred miles. So i mean it's i mean it's it's not stand out but i mean it's not terrible but like you said we're still very early in the in the process here we're talking about what Recharging seventy six miles of range and ten minutes. I like what you clarified. Kyle about the differences in charging of being able to hit that peak power. And then how long you can hold that peak power. How deep into the cycle. I think that's something that a lot of people don't really understand when it comes to charging so. Yeah we need to know more about this but i mean inside and outside from what i've seen so far i like it. I hope that we see more like this from cadillac in the future and i really liked it. It has an actual name I've never been a fan of the alpha numeric so i always thought the us automakers that were moving into the alphanumeric okay. Well they're just trying to copy the germans and you don't need to do that. I know a lot of people. Roll their eyes. When i say give me a cadillac eldorado. Gimme a cadillac deville. There's such history and legacy with those names. Some of it is poor. A lot of it isn't and i think you revoke a lot of emotion when you bring back names like that so Could i would love to see like like a lyric. Brits that could be it'd be thing smith. You should talk about. Why it's called lyric. Do you know it's it's basically the cadillac lyric because cadillac. As a brand the name has appeared in more songs in history than any other vehicle manufacturer is that is that truth. Yeah that's that's why it's called the lyric. Yeah no look super cool. I think they're putting a lot of weight behind this thing. We'll be neat. It's got that kind of curve display that we've seen in the new escalade. The escalates got that secondary split display in front so it looks cleaner to be the new escalate. It'll be interesting to see. How much tech they harvest vehicle. I'm sure you'll have super cruise. I'm sure it'll have maybe that cool night-vision like the escalate has just recently. Spent some time with that thing was awesome it and so much cool stuff i hope half of it makes it into the lyric but maybe i i'm really curious from you guys. I know we're a little bit short on time. But which of these electric. Cu vs are you most interested. You have lear. Exc- forty recharge pollstar to kona niro model y bok e. four a it goes on and on of course so so which one for for smith and bruce has your captured your attention in your emotion because for me personally. It's the volkswagen. Id for really plummet. I love everything about it. I think the specs perfect drives great. I've spent i put like three four thousand miles on him now. They're awesome granted. I haven't driven one but to me. It's it's nice. Warring yeah that's the thing so unobtrusive. It's got massaging seats. It's price well. It gets three years of free charging charges really nice deep into the battery pack. And it's got great driver assistance and it's just so comfortable in quiet and it got playing pause buttons and it makes me happy. Okay so cross so crossover see crossovers electrodes all man dude. What i answer is none of them yet and no. That's that's very fair. What is your okay so okay. So bruce you're none. Smith what do you think i mean. It's really a toss up. I think for me right now. I mean the lyric is obviously fresh in my mind and i'm really interested in seeing how that develops and how that shakes out and machi is also there too and i think a lot of listeners might be surprised by that because i mean i'm a mustang guy i've got a mustang in the garage and i've preached quite often about how i don't think this should be called a mustang but that doesn't take away from the fact that i think it looks cool. It's supremely quick in. Gt form and even not gt format. It's still going to be entertaining. And i think. I think it's an exciting direction for for take. I just wish that they had the guts to let it stand on. Its own and not tie it with the mustang. Name it to me. It sounds like they're not really sure if people will accept it so we'll wrap it up and it's in a mustang blanket out of four needed to do that. I think the machi looks like a good vehicle all around. So i mean. That's i guess. It's a tossup between those two yeah expelled a gun to my head machi. You'd be the one that i picked holding a gun to your head which were going to choose. It's going to be machi really one. It's the one that interests me. The most i guess the other ones i just. I don't know all little boring. Yeah that's for sure. Does nothing form a post to. I thought was good. But i didn't like the fastback mustang. Monkey i've driven probably five six seven thousand miles now across the country and time with that vehicle and it's certainly interesting Four things good monowai of course is just great on paper. Not so great on pavement is my impression of it. No quite interesting to hear your thoughts. Of course i'm interested to hear your thoughts since you've spent the time in the machi Have you have you encountered any of the mustang. People that have that have talked to you about it. Because i mean. I i love the car but and i apologize for my mustang fans that are listening it can be hard to be a mustang person because there are so many people that they're they're just they don't see anything but like their own mustang. Everything else is trash. And it's dislike like it or not the this has the mustang badge on it is called mustang. It's fast it's fun you know. Give it a chance and well. Yeah you're absolutely right. The the naming thing. I got over pretty quick because From my side. I'm just here to evaluate the car as a car. I'm not comparing it to other mustangs. Although that might be kind of interesting one day. I don't think it would hold up that well. The machi doesn't have a great thermal longevity so when you drive it really hard. It overheats pretty quickly. The not though will have a really much more beefed up cooling system. So i'm told Yeah i've done a couple videos on on machi now at sort of driving hard driving it easy. All this stuff enough shown how vehicle response in different environments but yet the mustang people. I was charging in a walmart in utah. Recently and so woman walked up to the window. I actually was doing a livestream on youtube. So it's on the out of spec motor utah. Wants up and she says. I hate your car. It's not a mustang. I'm like that's really funny. I really appreciate you. And but but generally i will say the general stuff is like thumbs up like people are surprisingly interested in it. We actually bought one grabber blue. My friend dave bought one for us to make videos with. And so you know. It's bright blue catches a lot of attention but generally overwhelmingly positive. But you do see people kind of like some cars next to you. They're like yeah. This is a bunch of garbage next to me And you know what it doesn't doesn't drive a mustang. I originally thought it did. But after spending a lotta time with it it's not not sporty enough. The gt will solve all this. Of course. well. I mean there are so many mustangs don't drive like a mustang if you get in nineteen eighty mustang Example with a with a with a four cylinder. Yeah you know what that and drive like a mustang either and kyle to if this makes you feel any better. I had an oath. Sat cobra. and. I love the car. It was the tenth anniversary. I was trying to join an sat cobra group. Because i mean that all three of forests is only a couple of years. And i couldn't join the group because all those jerks did was trash on the newer coyote mustangs. Oh my ten year old cards faster than those mustangs. What a pilot pilot junk. So there's very sorry mustang people. Hey you know what come on suck it up. Enjoy life the call. News is you can buy your gt three fifty that rents to what eighty six hundred rpm or something. Ridiculous to the mood sounds amazing visceral raw raw experience. You can get the gt five hundred. Which is all that power. Seven hundred plus dc great tech and you can get the electrified what you can take your family out on the weekends with or i should say during the week and the school right so plenty of options. I think i'm okay. With the addition and the growth of the mustang family to be more of these are our sporty models. Bronco will be more of our offroad models. I'm okay with it. I'm getting there. I'm getting there but machi certainly isn't bad. We should probably move on. We usually talk at halftime mustang. Last week probably talk another hour today. Can we take a little bit of an intermission. Break here absolutely yeah. Let's let's address a very nice email that we received this week. We've been growing the podcast now. Since january and our numbers have steadily gone up. Some episodes have been a little bit better than other. So we're trying to feel out what you folks want us to talk about and again we are still accepting emails. Podcast motor dot com. We want to hear your automotive stories. We want to see your automotive projects. We want to hear about your automotive passion We did get an email. Didn't come with the name. Attached it was just l. I think it's joe's i. I'm pretty sure from the l. Look at you're you're really avenue merrick. Speak okay well. We'll also looking at the email address. They'll see now come on. I'm looking on my phone. I don't see the email address anyways. Embarrassing chris embarrassing. I just wanna let you guys know that. I'm absolutely loving rambling about cars podcast. Thank you very much that that actually means a lot to us. Daughter one is very underrated. Should be right up there with motor trend and car and driver fun fact. Traffic numbers have us right up there with motor trend. Car and driver jalopy nick so we appreciate the words. I was wondering if you could have a podcast episode debating about the g. o. At thanks so there isn't well first of all tremendous for this email. We love getting emails and getting e emails even the emails. That say you guys are ridiculous and you don't know what we're talking about. Ninety percent of the time we do ten percent of the time maybe we don't We can't or or maybe maybe it's the other way round never know So but eight any email especially the nice ones. Thank you very much. We hope to continue doing great podcasts for the foreseeable future. Certainly there's no clarification here on geo. At we're gonna assume that it's the all time that the greatest of all time we could be talking about the ford bronco and talking about it modes. Yeah all all the goat modes go off road. Feel what it stands for ya go go over any terrain. Rain might gio. At isn't it isn't. I t nothing is just t- disappointing. Design them as a just wanting. This is just one t- Could be talking about. The pontiac is just won. T i just looked it up because know why i thought it was too. You know what we are both right. It is geo. At mode but it stands for goes over any type of terrain one of the tease out in akron. And just say go over anything. Yeah they could say over any terrain and must have overrides or over battle thing. I'm going to override everything that ford motor company says about this and say it's over any terrain but there you go. That's all we can do is talk almost have to go by segment though. Because there's not one greatest of all time car because there is ours do other all the nissan miranda across cabriolet where. You don't understand this literally. The best car on the planet sell it to sell me. This argument go ahead. No it's totally sarcastic. There's a group that i am obsessed with it's called nissan moreno cross cabriolet enthusiasts which is people who see one. And it's like. Oh this is god's this is like i'm gonna to play the lottery. I saw today totally making fun of it but now there are owners in the group that think everyone is serious so i convinced owners are in the owners and enthusiasts like to make fun of it so i can like both like the two owners should be in a few of them. There's at least one hundred these things in this group and they think we're totally legit. But i've convinced nissan to let me take one out of their heritage collection for the ultimate review of the ultimate car. Oh really you should do a drag you do. You should do a drag race with that as a pontiac aztec yard line up a mustang to for you. That's okay we're going to drag race it against the gtri. The cross cavs go by. I'll hold my starbucks just cruising y'all some guy in a race suit and the gt are know pounding off the rev limiter. And you know it's gonna be really kind of funny but truly an amazing machine of brilliance. Hit us up on. That happens because that's internet gold right there. That's the plan. So if you have ideas for the listenership about the fund skits we could do for that. We were going to take them all like a a track and race teams working on the mirando and like putting slicks on it and some other fun stuff so should be kind of interesting. I am on board so moving onto our second segment which will keep kinda short but the auto shanghai show happened this week and while there's a lot of you know very normal cars that show up they're both for mainstream automakers that are available all over the world and chinese specific automakers. There's also some weird stuff. They're just just weird and so we wanted to take a moment. To celebrate the weirdness that was at auto shanghai Or you know it's also it's also probably worth mentioning really quick That's part of the reason why we had so many debuts here in the last week or so that show actually. That's one of the few auto shows that took place that's taken place in the last year or so so it's need to have sort of an auto show back we're also at the same time of year where normally we seeming The new york auto show so even though the auto show isn't going on automaker still have plans for their own vehicle debut. So so there's there's a little bit of kind of inside look at the world of journalism when we get these these auto shows even though they're not going on automakers are still kind of coming out with debuts around the same time. But you're right bruce. We see some whoppers from china. So let's start with. This is by far my favorite just because it's so it's so blatantly ripping off a classic but i also kind of like getting a stupid way. Let's look at the aura punk cat with one. Yeah fantastic name. And it is a four door near copy of the classic volkswagen beetle. That looks nothing like a volkswagen beetle. What do you mean tripping with the resemblance here for our youtube. We're looking at the side view now so we can see how much it doesn't look like a beetle. Nothing about that roof line it should. We should note that it is four doors doors a sedan. What a machine is the out is the engine in the back or is it. Here's a front. It's gotta be front drive front engine. Sorry i think it's because look up far back. The rear seats are that rests. There's no way you're squeezing an engine back. their abilities. Chinese cars are like one point two leaders. Yeah there's there's like a little like a little one lung or back there. Bye bye bye bye bob top the interior which is also see. I know that's not a volkswagen beetle. Because there is no spot await. There is kind of a rose on the dash low. Isn't there yeah so okay. So it's sort of has the flower thing going on interior. I love this well. The aura pump cat which is just one import one of these things after twenty five years. You'll see me daily and more okay. So next up ed smith. This is one that you wrote about this. So i apologize. I don't know how to pronounce the automakers name. It is either raw or rover and this is the aging which apparently in chinese means wail. And you'll understand why as soon as you see it. It has the face of a whale it. there's just no other way to put it it. It does translate. I mean we looked up. Google translate and actually the glyphosate for for those not on youtube. We're looking at the. I mean a straight up head on shot and it was specifically designed to look like the underside of a whale with those those kind of vertical strakes stretching all the way across the front end The the traditional chinese character there on the plate is is the character forging. Which is wales. I mean it's it's not an accident and it's not on purpose. it's on purpose. This is this is in a production version. This is a near production on the production version is supposed to go out later this year but from what we were able to gather It's not gonna change very much from this. And and yeah. I mean it's It's going to have internal combustion power and a plug in hybrid. There is another fully electric version of this vehicle. Similar not an exact copy of this but similar based on this That will be offered at a later date. But yeah and you know a. It's it's white on purpose. I mean you've got to have you've got to have the white whale I mean what i saw i was like. Wow but that was like well. I mean other than the grill. it's it's kinda goofy. The grill is kind of goofy grill. Doesn't but but i mean it's it grew on me a little bit it. It's not enough to. I mean not enough to making trade. My nissan murano cabriolet. Nothing comes close. I guess they just one of the interesting things from china. What else are we get. This one is also a concept. This is the hong ki l. concept so this is a concept for a luxury sedan. It's just called the l the l. concept yes well hongqi red flag. I believe which is like the pinnacle. It's like rolls royce of china. Well you can send that works. Very rolls royce of china it. It just has bizarre light signature and then when you look at the back in has this weird embroidered effect that. I'm not sure. I don't know how you see out of the back of that but i guess it's a concept so you don't have to. You're not worried about anyone behind you when you're driving a hong. Gee this thing is bad to the bone. I love this. it's something i like it. Is you know you'll notice. There's no passenger there. No front passenger seat. And that's because the person in the back can just fully reclined. It's magic how awkward. It must be to sit in that chair and like as you're just being driven around it but yeah so this is just another example of and this isn't so much weird it's just so it's almost like baroque like it's it's so like overly style of stuff that we don't really see here that often that Face it just does please. Can you scroll back to the friendships boy. Doesn't that look like somebody who is getting a glimpse of something very exciting. That they don't think they should be seen but it's like wow look at that that i haven't yet but going back is a totally different personality. It is that is an essential car. Bad it's and that the rear the rear looks like actually the real looks like What nine hundred ninety. Four nineteen ninety-five mustang with those goofy Vertical or horizontal lights instead of the verticals Well little big man. He's played and the way they're styled but yeah why do you need four of the money side. My why not your mind you you would want more well. The the fourth is the fourth one each side that's an optional. Extra oxygen okay. Eight hundred dot seen not seeing this concept until now at night seriously. I actually really think it's cool. And then last one we have here and this is another hung. She and this is. This is actually going into production. They're saying this is the s nine. Which is there a supercar. There's apparently on the way here. Let me get a better image of that up. I mean that's cool. yeah it looks it just. We haven't really scheme. That many chinese supercars this one is supposed to have fourteen hundred horsepower And they're saying it's actually going into production so is it electric Give me just a. Siamese looks cool. It's according to our story on it. It's just a. It's a plug in hybrid with a v eight engine making fourteen hundred horsepower. And i mean it's cool. But kyle i think maybe you about to go down this road It's it's another supercar. It kinda say. I'm i'm starting to get supercar or maybe in this case hypercard fatigue. You know it. Yeah you know. Rounded fenders short fronts. Beefy back big intakes on the side. that one looks like it had a center mounts just a single windshield wiper because race cars have one windshield wiper. I took the passenger windshield wiper off my mustang in it made it so much faster. And yeah i mean it. It's cool but i keep grabbing the same image alone second. I wanna get excited about it. But i mean. I don't suspect this is something that's going to be available in the united states just by looks. It looks a little bit better from that view. Three quarters now. Yeah i mean. At least i mean at least it has some some interesting character. It has a little bit of a long tail. Feel to it. Does boy those. can we talk about. No let's not talk about those wheels. I would rather not talk about those but you could go for or you go for the neo race car thing like there's others. I guess the neo once fully electric. But i dunno it it. The thing that is is hard to wrap my head around for these supercars is look i. I know there's a ton of people that have way too much money. That could certainly afford this and that and that but at the end of the day These things don't really impact our everyday everyday life. So what i would love to see his hung hunky. Make sort of like the forget. Exactly the model name. What their suv is. Maybe the h. s. nine. I think love to see them. Make like a real sporty something crazy out of an suv because we know the chinese market loves suv's and they love being better than everyone. So how cool would it be if they put this drive train in their h. s. nine. Suv that would just be absolutely bonkers. And i think they would sell ten times as many as these probably true but you know there is something about a halo car for a brand that kind of gets them recognition. And if as they're saying this actually goes into production they can say. Hey look we've got a fourteen hundred fourteen hundred horsepower supercar. So you know i agree. You're certainly right that the m- the mass stuff matters. But you know for any brand likes to have a halo. I think sure well not a bad way to start. Fourteen hundred horsepower were sort of dubbed the power numbers these days. But that's all you're not wrong when you say were numb. Because i hear fourteen hundred horsepower. Yeah that's a lot and then that's where it ends and it's like it's like no. That's that's way beyond a lot so wrapping up here. We wanted to pick our favorite debuted that we've kind of covered so kyle your gas when it you go first of what you've seen. What's your favorite. Yeah well. I think the most relevant in our marketplace the one that could have the most effect on an entire industry for example or segment of vehicles. I should say would be curious. I think it does it. The between electric vehicles is no longer on efficiency technology range. It's about all of those things. But then the plus how. How much features are they're going to be in there. What's the envy h like. What are the driving dynamics. Like and i think it opens up the world of vs to a new conversation not focused on on paper specs and actually focused on usable daily features. And i'm pretty excited about that. Fairy smith how. 'bout you oh gosh You know i'm kind of torn between santa cruz and lyric Santa cruz has so. I mean it has the right now kind of hits me in an area. That's not really interested in but this makes me interested. This makes me interested in looking at trucks again. I love its design I love the idea of an end model. A nice on road performance vehicle But i dislike. It has an alternative to an suv or or even a modest hatchback mom something that stands out different. The the lyric is. I like the lyric. Because it's not right now. It's looking towards the future but it's giving us that taste of what it's going look like right now and i hope that it can be. It can sort of the new a new era for cadillac because cadillacs had kinda rough the last few years if they can if they can get themselves refocused and organized and in a good direction and they can back that up with everything that they're saying the altium platform is going to be capable of then we could have some really great cadillacs coming in the future. So i am going to go santa cruz as well. Even though i had my complaints about it i think that recreating or bringing back small truck segment that unibody trucks segment. I think it's going to be a huge thing and it's interesting if we look of the timeframes and we don't know anything for sure yet but it looks like the santa cruz is going to be on sale a couple of months before the maverick is so it'll be interesting to see if hyundai can really capitalize on that kind of being first market thing and you know really market the santa cruz to be a competitor against ford or with ford being. You know the kind of the king of the pickups that once the maverick comes out that it's just going to steamroll things. Regardless you know. I i like that. This segment is coming back So yeah i like to see it and you know you know that's Well i guess now. Sta lantis dodge jeep. You know. they're going to be watching. Santa cruz and maverick like a hawk. Oh and general motors. Because yeah because i mean especially still anxious i mean they have such a portfolio vehicles. They could draw from to bring a small ran back into the state so yeah. We're we're on the cusp of many things many things so kyle. We just happened to have enough time that you get to do our new quiz. I was hoping i was trying to draw our conversation about the hong chee and how cool it was and mike cross cabriolet version. We got time for science so just enough time. Every new guest goes through this. There are no wrong answers. But of course the people of the world will be judging you internally exactly no pressure on bruce. I kinda lead last the last one we did last week. Why don't you. Why don't you lead us off your this one. So what is your favorite car of the nineteen eighties lotus esprit. I guess there was that seventies. I mean there was there. Were these yeah. Yeah you could get the turbo and stuff donated okay. Sure what is your favorite car of the nineteen nineties. Good question no idea. Maybe a lincoln blackwood or maybe that's early thousands thousand. I'm so young the nineties. I was still a baby. So i don't know yeah are to say really ninety s. Nothing really came out. Great in the nineties did it. That's catering this great. They'll there are so my. My perception of nineteen ninety s. automotive is a lots of cheap plastic and lots of like weird. Not very well put together vehicles. C four. corvette z are one twenty to be sti subaru nissan skyline. Not as. i'm not a super fan. But i mean you have to acknowledge the supra It was it was. It was the fdr seven. It was also the birth of the ls v eight from general motors that powered everything Mclaren f one hand money exit twenty s cool for our love that nine by nine threes. Probably as where. I fall but your answer was none of my answer was. I couldn't think of any cool console nineties you've given me now. Three to consider and the nine three is so well. What about hold on. Hold on no. This is good. What what about. What about the ev one. Not into it. Oh okay so. I think people really halo. That carpet. Really didn't do anything except his a whole bunch of people off that they're still grind about it. Well it was. It was a first step into a field that we're in now and we're ready there. There's a case that we're not even ready for massey vs right now. How much further along would we have been. If that just hadn't been canned and put down immediately. I think was a step in the right direction. I think i think it was. I think it was a victim of circumstances by a lot of other things to it wasn't impressive or an interesting story or it really could have been Potentially moving the needle in a direction that it unfortunately didn't But i think that's a unfortunately a failure story. They made a car. We learned really nothing from it and we didn't do anything about it for ten years. Twenty years i would say that's more. Gm's fault the nepal. But i'm sure absolutely absolutely hundred percent cars. What car or cars do you own right now. so we have a tesla model. Three a bmw. I three a electric smart car We review a lot of stuff which is fun and we have a crown victoria police car. What year. I can't even remember having driven it in six months. It's in north carolina at our testing facility. We take it out. Do big skids. Lots of j. turns never checked oil in it and then put it away hot vic. It wasn't a police car. Laws on vic yup. Seventy one whole still got sirens and lights. We told them it would never be registered. It isn't registered lives civility so the police agency in hickory north carolina. I think it was sold to us with sirens and lights in there. Which is awesome and Yeah she's rocking things of beast. We've done a lot of challenges with it. All right last question heated seats or heated. Steering wheel you get one Heated seats are on all the time in everything. I'm always surprised because you would think okay heated seats. I mean that's your whole body versus your hands. I think it's been about fifty fifty this fires in bruce. Yeah it has heated seats. Yeah that's an interesting question. Asks me forty but for seats. I think nearly go by steering wheel still gets picked. Yeah i'm with you on seats. If your hands are cold is wear gloves. Get low that also most cars have reconditioning remote start now. None of mine was modern new along. Tra- allante has a. He started the start button. We know that's interesting. I think lots of cool stuff. I guess we we should probably wrap up here. But you guys all saw the cars and coffee crashing colorado with that -demia hell cat happened right in front of me on when you were there. Why a the hit was right in front of us and my request is if you go to carson coffee. Just don't dry jerk. Please enjoy it for the sport of enjoying everyone else's scars bravo. Bravo you can you know if you want to start up the car and give it a few blips while you're parts red signed. Yeah just don't do burn out looking as much as you everyone everywhere. Yep this just keep it. Nice keep it saying. Keep it steady kyle. Thanks offer being with well. What do you have for social media. You like to bike to promote here. Huckabee nothing super interesting is not hard to find but yet you know just weird stuff. I wouldn't recommend it but you can go to youtube out of spec reviews. We do a daily video car review every day and all video all pretty terrible. So if you're okay well thank you for joining us good afternoon. Good evening. Good night whenever you happen to be listening to us. We appreciate it. Email is podcast at motor one dot com. We'd love your questions honestly if you're working on a project car and you're proud of it and you wanna share it with senate senator some pics and we'll share them motor one is the youtube. If you know if you wanna watch the video version there and if not were on all of the podcast things that you can be on so follow us like us will appreciate it but thank you very much. Thank you guys. We'll talk to you later. 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#14: Entering a Crowded Service Market and Crushing the Competition with Nick Huber

BiggerPockets Business Podcast

1:02:36 hr | 1 year ago

#14: Entering a Crowded Service Market and Crushing the Competition with Nick Huber

"The welcome to the bigger pockets business podcast show number thirteen non targeted marketing was kind of silly when we knew exactly where our customers lived. We knew where they walked. We knew where they went to classes so we decided to get out in touch our customers like we had to get out in front of them and they had to see the whites of our eyes and so we didn't spend a dollar on marketing I mean we did it ourselves. Welcome to a real world M._B._A.. From the School of hard knocks were entrepreneurs reveal what it really only takes to make it whether you're already in business or you're on your way there. This show is for you. This is bigger pockets business. Everybody I am Jay Scott. I I am your co host for the bigger pockets business podcasts here today as usual with my beautiful co host Mrs Carol Scott How you doing today cow Scott. I have a very very full ballet. How's your valley feeling? I am not sure where so you're going with this but I have a very full belly also full of ice cream yeah because we had to the very best ice cream shop in a whole entire universe in what could possibly make it the very very best ice cream shop. You might be wondering well. Here's the deal very screams good. Actually it's great can't lie but here's the thing we live in this place that has an ice cream shop on every single corner but there's exactly one we will go to and why is that because they hands down have the very best best best customer service ever. Tell you the one that will they do that. As far as I'm concerned makes them the best when you're eating ice cream and you get so so so thirsty while get this the do the manager the owner. I'm not sure who it is. He just walks around out of the picture of water in little cops. It just goes around from customer customer India's pours you want her. It's as simple as that. You don't have to buy water. You don't have to get up and got your car. Get the bottle of water the sitting out there. He just offers you free water such as simple simple gesture that makes that cream shop number one in terms of service in creates such a loyal customer and fan base. I think I've now figured out where you're going with. This is does that is a great eight lead in for today's show where we're GONNA be talking about starting and growing a service business now if you've ever started or if you thought about starting a service business in I know I have I've started thought about studying painting business. I thought about starting landscaping business moving business. I've thought about starting lots of service businesses and here's the thing every time I think about the first thing it comes to mind is how am I gonNA compete with all the competition out there it all these businesses are very low barrier to entry businesses and so there's a lot of competition. There's often a lot of big players in the market and I think to myself. How am I going to compete well? Guess what there's always a way to grow a successful business if you can set yourself apart from the competition and that's exactly what our guest today has done we have a guy here name. Nick Nick along with one of his buddies from college started their business literally in their college dorm room they start a company called storage squad and it's a company focused on picking up delivering and storing students stuff over the summer when they're out of college now day essentially started this business with no money and no plan but they've been incredibly resourceful the entire way and the cool thing is they competed against some a very biggest players in the industry and they've won at every single turn and Knicks GonNa tell us how they've done it. Now Knicks also GonNa talk about the struggles of managing a business that requires year round effort but literally you only get paid by your customers once or twice a year great story. You're GonNa love this episode especially. If you've ever thought about starting a service business the author tells this really great story. You're the ad how hilarious was this. How at the ripe old age of thirteen he accidentally Kelly invented a new type of landscaping baulch fitted weather really good but he learned every lesson he needed to know right that in their landscape mulch? That's I guess one word for hack. That was a good story so if you want more information about nick about his business or about the things we discussed the show today check out our show notes at bigger pockets dot com slash Biz show fourteen again. That's bigger pockets dot com slash Biz show fourteen now before we jump into our episode. Let's hear quick word from our sponsor. 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