20 Episode results for "COW"
51 Stop Being So Smart 51 Stop Being So Smart
"Have you ever worked at Jigsaw puzzle? What's the first thing you do? You get all the pieces out. You try to find the corners, maybe some edges. No! That's not the first thing you do. You're listening to living the Freedom Live podcast episode number fifty one. Stop being so smart. Welcome to living the freedom life feedback from some of our coaching clients a podcast. Some say it's devotional and others say it's an introduction to a community. And whether we realize it or not, we all have a desire to limit. We want it and we need it living the freedom life. And here's your host. Author and certified coaching expert Cow mcmurray. There are a lot of benefits to working jigsaw puzzles. It's a great way to keep the mind sharp. In even if you're not a puzzle AFICIONADO. You know that actually the first move to working jigsaw puzzle his look at the box lid. If. We don't have an overview of what we're working on. Let's just say the journey will be a little more difficult if we don't look at the lid of that box, you know the picture of what the puzzle should look like when the puzzles complete. One thing I tell a new client at our coaching. Practice is trust the process. Many of our clients experience anxiety frustration in feeling like there's some type of glass ceiling above them, that's. From the next level in live. Some struggle with depression. Others struggle with various addictions in life. while. We're not psychotherapist. We're coaching practice. We offer help through online sessions. We talk about where you are right now. And where you WanNa, be we help you get there? You might be surprised that our price point is at or below an insurance copay. Were affordable. Bottom line is we want to help people. Now want to be clear. I don't want to turn this episode into a commercial I'm just letting you know. What we do and this is one of the avenues where we can help people without having an online session. But, this is one of the main things that I introduced to a new client. Is Trust the process? Just like a sports coach, you have to trust the drills that you're doing in practice even when they don't make sense, you're put in a safe environment and you do exercises that will pay off in real life scenarios. Pretty soon you'll be. When it counts! As we say around here, you'll be living the freedom life before you know it right. So onto our topic for this week. One of the main reasons that we don't trust the process is because most of your so intelligent that you haven't figured out already. Even as I'm saying this sentence, you're already figuring out what direction this conversation's going, so let me guide you one step further. When you're having a conversation with someone. In your focusing more on what you're about to say, rather than listening to what the other person is currently saying. Do you think you're really listening to what they're saying. And, answer that for you know we don't. In fact it's been scientifically proven that we can't. That means our intelligence gets in the way. It's actually an obstacle. When it comes to issues with anxiety, depression, even addictions. Their biological factors involved the. We need to also understand that there is a responsibility that we have in our thought process as well. I like to tell her clients to think about what you're thinking about. Now most of us don't even know what we're thinking about. We just think it in other words. Some of us are so intelligent that we think so quickly that we don't have time to realize what we're thinking. It just comes at such a fast pace. We don't have time to stop and analyze whether our thoughts are toxic or healthy would just have them. We think them. We don't have time to slow it down. If, you want to learn this lesson. I suggest riding a horse. Let me, give you an example of that. When I was a kid, we lived out in the country and I mean out in the country. Our nearest neighbor was more than a mile away. Our driveway was more than a half mile long, so when it was time for me to catch the bus to go to school I literally rode a horse to the end of the driveway. I hung. It doesn't get much more country than that but I am who I am and God made me that way. But when I began to drive, I was fifteen, and as you know, life begins to speed up at that age all after driving, while I took a ride on one of our horses. And the slow pace really let me notice things that I'd forgotten. I was afforded the opportunity. To notice what I hadn't noticed in a while. That's what we provide our clients. The freedom and the safe space to think about what they're thinking about. And to learn if they're healthier toxic. And most of the time it's the obstacle of one's own intelligence that produces the rabbit hole of anxiety. I know because been there. You see when I'm so busy thinking at the speed of light. I can't pay attention to what God's saying about me. And, what God says about me is truth. No matter what the world says about me what God says about me is true. and. He says that I'm worth more than anything else that he created. Anything that stands in the way of that. Even if it's my own thoughts. That's my. So. I need to start doing drills getting safe space to practice so that the next time that I get blindsided by opposers, even my thoughts. I know what to do I know what to respond with, and that is the truth about what God says about me. And that's how Jesus did it. And if we do it the way he did, it will soon be living the freedom life. We want to help. If this resonates with you today. You want help. Just visit our website and look around. COWL mcmurray DOT COM. We'd love to help you today. Living the freedom life. This is. Thanks for listening today. You can stay up today by subscribing to this podcast. You can also tell your smart device. Play the latest podcast from living the freedom life. If you want to find out more about how you can start living the freedom life. Click the site linked to book your complimentary initial consultation. Thanks again and remember. We give away what we have. Let's make sure we receive life. Until next time, let's keep living the Freedom I.
Who is Ready for Fall? ~ Harvest Time Who Is Ready for Fall? ~ Harvest Time
"In our second episode of the series WHO's ready for fall, we're talking about the most labor intensive activity of the entire growing season in farming communities all across the globe and across time they celebrate this time of year and yes if you eat, it affects you to. Today. We're talking about harvesting time. You're listening to living the freedom life podcast episode number sixty two. Welcome to living the freedom lives. Community. We're not here to talk about religion. But we discussed ways, methods and strategies to become the person. God. Originally created you to be. We all have a desire to live it. We want it. We need it. Living the freedom life. Here's Your Host Author and certified coaching expert Cow Murray. By the response, a lot of you're excited about fall. During fall who begin to notice the days are getting shorter in other words there's not as much sunlight as there once was in the summertime. But there's much more work to be done. Will Seamus, dilemma somebody's got to do something right? Follow me on this one daylight saving time really doesn't help. We're just simply moving numbers around on o'clock. I'm talking about the time between sun up and sundown not what time it is who cares about that I just need to see while I'm doing all this work in the times getting shorter to get it done. Well that can be a lot of pressure. I'M From a farming community and my dad owned a feed store for years. So I have some working knowledge about the subject. With. A heavier workload and less time to get it done. It seems like an annual repeat of several chapters in exodus. Where the Hebrews or making bricks for the Egyptians? Why would God put us in such a predicament? Every year. Why would God provide such a reminder in our lives? We'll just as many things in life. We can put a lot of work and effort into plowing and sowing maintaining the care of the crop, but when it comes to harvest time. A farmer leaves it up to the crop to yield and the mercy of the elements and whether or not. There's a fruitful harvest. Will in the Bible even Paul wrote I planted Apollo's watered but God gives the increase you can find that in First Corinthians three. So it's safe to say that there's more evidence and proof of the provision of God in the harvest time then any other. Nano. There's a lot to be said in the Bible about harvest time too much to mention here. We just don't have time for that. But there's a process of harvest time. Your blackened chicken with Rice, Pilaf and served with a side salad just doesn't happen overnight. Yes. There's planning plowing and planting. But there's also reaping threshing and winnowing and storing. I'd go over each of these. So we can gain some understanding about how we can reap the benefits of each one. When the first one is reaping I know it's scary to think of the grim reaper here, but it comes from harvest time. Ping means. There is a cutting down. It must be done. It's only painful when we think about what's lost. But when we think about what's gained Then it evolves into a necessity reaping has to be done in order for us to have the nourishment and sustenance that's intended. And thrashing means to beat or separate the stocks and stems from the grain. And with hardship comes an easy decision making process to find what's useful. If you've had hardship in your life you have an easier decision making process than someone who hasn't. I believe God. Provides that. How many of you have gained deep insight in your life when you're going through some of your hardest times Oh that's what threshing does and I challenge you today. Review. Some opportunities you had in the past, see what you've learned from them and share them teach them. That's what threshing does for us. And the next one is winning when wings a little different yeah. The wind blows and it separates the grain from the hull and the shaft. More of a fine sifting happens here. But how often do the winds of change blow and we try to hold onto things that we shouldn't. The old way of winnowing is two toss up the grain in a tray while the blowing wind carries off all that is not useful. It's quite dramatic. But. It's a beautiful picture that God would take such care in what we consider something to make our daily bread. Because of the next step in the process in harvesting, it's storing. And we can't just leave the good stuff out to rotten waste for the birds to come along and take it away. We need to it where we can use it and use it later. Share it with our family, carry it to our neighbors reach out to our community. Out of all the different directions we could go with today's topic I. Want to share with you one last thought well, it's it's more of a memory than anything. A whether we would be harvesting something that we grew or just bailing. Hey, I. Remember something the old timers called allowance time. Now very rarely heard the term, but it always happened. I remember coming to the barn between loads and drink in that cold well-water. It was so good. Also remember me and my friends Dunkin our heads into the watering trough for the horses. But Lounge time was really about refreshment during work. I remember making my mom laughed so hard she would drop the lemonade. She brought us when we would dunk our heads in that water to cool off. But if today you feel like you have to keep your nose to the grindstone there opportunities for you to experience God's Peace and joy? These times are meant to sharpen you to give you reason to push through to encourage you that you understand that you always have more gas in the tank than you think you do. Lounge time is a time of refreshment and strengthening. Take the time harvest time is a time for hard work. You get to see the evidence of production. You get the have this great rest afterwards and great satisfaction when it's done. But make sure in this time you take time for allowance. A hope that you're living the freedom life today. If you feel that you're not we WANNA help it's quick. It's simple. It's more than you think you can go to either living the freedom life dot org or cow mcmurray dot com to find out more until next time. Living the freedom life. This is cal. We're glad you joined us today. If this was your first time, make sure and hit the subscribe button. To find out more about Comic Murray coaching. Please go to our website and there you can book a free initial consultation to get you on the path towards living the freedom life. Thank you so much for listening today and remember we give away what we have. Let's make sure we receive life. We'll see you next Thursday and until then let's keep living the freedom life.
Who is Ready for Fall? Leaves. Who is Ready for Fall? Leaves
"But we're starting a new series of episodes for our podcast named who is ready for fall and here in Texas we've had what we would call a mild summer. The heat hadn't been as bad as it could be but still I'm ready for fall I'm ready for change I'm ready for the things that associate themselves with the season of autumn, and that's a big deal. So we're going to be talking about it and our series who is ready for fall while you're listening to living the freedom live podcast episode number sixty one and today we're talking about leaves. Welcome to living the freedom lives. Community. We're not here to talk about religion. But we discuss ways, methods and strategies to become the person God originally created you to be. We, all have a desire to live it. We want it we need it. Living the freedom life. Here's Your Host Author and certified coaching expert, Cow mcmurray. Booth. In, her series named WHO's ready for fall. Today, we're talking about leaves. Now there are different things that come to mind when people think about fall the fall colors they're usually the first thing that people think about the did you know that in order to have those rich full bright and vibrant colors previously, there has to be wet muddy sloppy days of rain. All those trees have to have moisture in their leaves in order for them to turn red yellow and sage. Normally. We don't like rainy days and here in Texas, we don't get many. Rain does bring great things later. Like. Vibrant colors a lot of times we just need to stop and look and see how beautiful those colors really are. Now, this may be a time for us to slow down and well instead of smelling the roses, we look at the colors I. Remember as a kid in Tennessee tourism would explode during this time of year for people just coming out to see the colors of the trees in the hills. And the next thing about leaves is that they make a mess of things. One of the only things that I don't like about having a pool. This time of year is all of the leaves that fall into the water. I've got to pay attention to phosphates and they create. All these things that algae grows from, and then all of the science stuff related to that and I just give me hives. Other people spend a lot of time raking leaves out of the yard but even that has benefits if we're open to it. And I've learned to make a choice that cleaning up leaves equals meditation on Change. That's what I'm choosing that time to be. Whenever I'm cleaning up leaves that means I. Am to meditate on change. Look we don't have to set an alarm for three thirty in the morning to spend time with God spending. Time with God can look a lot like raking leaves or cleaning the pool he wants to spend time with us. It's usually us that doesn't make time for him. So I see this as a great opportunity. Another thing about leaves is when I see them fall and the bald limbs of the trees. That equals to me saying goodbye to some things. It gives me an opportunity to reevaluate anything that may be considered baggage in my life. I may need to let some things go let them follow away because they no longer bring me nutrients like leaves do they no longer serve as a healthy source of life for me so they need to go they need to be swept aside and bagged up and put to the curb for rubbish. I've learned there are a lot of things that leave teach us. We need to keep our eyes open for the season in our lives we need to learn to appreciate those vibrant colors. And when those leaves make a mess, we're allowed to clean up that mess. We need to learn how to use that as an opportunity to let God, speak. Because he didn't make us to carry around dead baggage. We need to learn to let some things go in our life. When we're able to do that. That's when we live the freedom live. I hope this helps you today get outside experience. What fall has to offer you today. In the meantime. My Pool needs cleaning so until next time. Living the. Freedom live. This is calm. We're glad you joined us today. If this was your first time, make sure and hit the subscribe button. To find out more about Comic Murray coaching please go to our website and there you can book a free initial consultation to get on the path towards living the freedom life. Thank you so much for listening today and remember we give away what we have. Let's make sure we receive life. We'll see you next Thursday and until then let's keep living the freedom life.
Episode 50 The Big 50 The Big 50
"You're listening to living the freedom, life podcast and around here. Were celebrating. This episode number fifty. The Big Five. Welcome to living the freedom lives. Community. We're not here to talk about religion. But we discussed ways, methods and strategies to become the person. God originally created you to be. We all have a desire to live it. We want it. We need it. Living the freedom life. Here's Your Host Author and certified coaching expert Cow mcmurray. The Big Five Oh. No not what? We used to call the police back in the day. To the shock of some of our listeners. Belt hopefully to the shock of some of you. I just turned fifty back in October. It really didn't feel like I'm that old? I feel better now than when I was twenty five. I mean I'm taking a lot better care of myself now. When I was twenty five, I was essentially killing myself. We can get into that maybe in another episode. Fifty is a big deal. When you're on the underside of it. It's really really old and when you're there. Wow kind of changed my perspective. Well through a little research found that the world sees this number fifty to represent several things. The world says it represents personal freedom. Comes from the Bible. Positive focus rather than focusing on the negative things in life. Also comes from the Bible as well they also say it it. You can hit a new level of competence and stride. Coming from the Bible. Fifty represents the year of Jubilee, and this has a special impact on ownership and stewardship of land and harvest. Hebrew prisoners would be freed. Debts would be forgiven, and the mercies of God would be. Particularly evident and tangible. You've heard the statement. You're only as young as you feel. Well. Let me tell you fifty. is on your mind? You know there may be things that you can no longer do with less aches going on afterwards, but I think I can now do a lot more and with a lot more versatility than I could when I had a little bit more spring in my step. You may be asking well. What does that all mean? What are you saying today? Cow Well what I WANNA. Point out is that most of these things are determined in your mind. All of us will be affected by ages some point. We can't escape that in Hebrews nine twenty seven. It says it is pointed to a man wants to die. But how we respond interact and exchange thoughts and feelings with one another has everything to do with my attitude and altitude. See My. Direct my altitude just like an airplane in flight. If you've ever stuck your hand out in the window in a vehicle going down the road and you've tilted it up. Know has a tendency to lift your arm right. Well, it would be easy for me to focus on being a half, a century old and over the hill and decrepit. Start wearing socks on my crocks sunscreen on my nose and shaking my finger at kids playing in our yard to get off the grass or I can attain a different attitude. This is a new era in personal freedom for me. For my family, and hopefully because of my circle of influence, my friends and hopefully you. Understand the importance of the Sabbath I. Know How to rest appropriately and I've experienced and know how to get things done so I've invested in the trial and error process, and there are hopefully less errors involved now. In other words I know when to sharpen my axe. I've accepted being released from past bondage. Now this is a big statement. But when it becomes reality. Pay Attention I've accepted being released of past bondage and understand the requirements of forgiveness. and. Yes, the mercies of God are more evident now in my life because he shows me what to look for. There's a pattern in the signs like they describe in Matthew Sixteen. So I think that the attitude really makes a difference on whether or not you. Feel your age. CanNot Squat three hundred pounds anymore. No, but why would I want to? I have other things I know I can utilize when I have to do such a thing that are wiser approach so now the question is. How can your attitude change in your certain area? In something that is as obvious as age. I'm choosing to look at it through a different Lens now. In what area do you want to change your altitude? Do you WANNA soar to new heights. Do you want to take it to the next level. Let an airplane in flight beer example. In order to change your altitude, you have to change the attitude. When you're able to approach her situation with a newly elevated attitude. You'll soon be living the freedom life. And until next time this. We're glad you joined us today. If this was your first time, make sure and hit the subscribe button. To find out more about Comic Murray coaching. Please go to our website and there. You can book a free initial consultation to get you on the path towards living the freedom life. Thank you so much for listening today and remember we give away what we have. Let's make sure we receive. We'll see you next Thursday. And until then let's keep living the freedom life!
"Merriam Webster's Day for May Twenty first. Today's word is cow catcher spelled as one word. C O. W. C. A. T. C. H. E. R. Cow Catcher is a noun that means an inclined frame on the front of a railroad locomotive for throwing obstacles off the track. Here's the word used in a sentence for his entry in the town parade. John his black truck with a cow. Catcher and smokestack to resemble a nineteenth century locomotive. New Jersey is Camden and amboise railroad was the first in the US to adopt the COW CATCHER. Adding IT TO ITS. John Bull Locomotive in the early eighteen thirties but as the model railroad. Selah pedia warned. Don't ever let a railroad man here you use cow. Catcher in its heyday. Railroad workers. Preferred the name pilot for that v-shaped frame in the nineteen forties and fifties cow catcher jumped the tracks and took on a new life and TV and radio advertising jargon. The term was used for a commercial that was aired immediately before a program and advertised a secondary product of the programs sponsor. Such ads apparently got the name because they went in front with your word of the day. I'm Peter Sokolski visit Merriam Webster Dot com today for definitions wordplay and trending word look ups.
Episode 416 - Death Wish (CLIP)
"I'm going to keep on bringing up. There is like the original is a weird thing that like it's literally just somebody pulls a knife on him. He kills them. Yes. And it freaks out though. Right. Well, and at the first one he vomits after the first, yes. Yeah. But like that's like really fucked like you are literally executing some because they opened a knife. That is generally this one all of them have guns and are doing super violent shit. Yeah. There's no that there's no gray area. Listen, it's last man standing, it's really Chicago man cow. These animals are just and guns. They're making digest in guns. They're firing bullets out of their mouths, and actually you don't Jones would have been better than man. Cow put else Jones this fucking right? Yeah. That's true. Sure. You'll I love them. But like the montage also like it's telling you exactly what he's thinking. He's like it's a man cow saying like, I think he's a hero. He's the best guy's a hero zero hero. And then sway is like, I don't know about this, man. You. Deci- the fuck. No. You're telling me. This guy's cool. Yeah. Alex Jones here all the grim reaper is. Yeah. We've got the score count. Here's killed what black guy one white guy. So we're okay. But not super okay. With a he's almost a false flag. Now, he starts killing more of what we said before the first one was a lot of lamb. He's a hero to our movement. Catch you bed with reaper. I'm in five different litigations right now about other reaper reporting. I keep forgetting that technically have to count them to biological Jill. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to I'm going to tell the audience the troop. I am degrom reaper have been doing it. You can't do that. He's gonna get shot up degree goodbye. My reaper pills. They make you kill even better than you would when you fire gun with these repeals your dick will not go inside of yourself. Right there clinically designed got before it after photos of their smoking Oba got looking at you can see my dick did not go inside my body and here is me being harassed at a restaurant Allston. Yeah. I was yelled out of a restaurant a few weeks ago. Those people are cowards. Yup. Cool. Hey, sweet man that is career as easy. Get your rock in with the reaper taser. So that's what we're doing. We're just have this whole thing outpouring of the whole city of Chicago's in love with the reaper. Oh my God. What's going to happen? The next thing is this kid comes in. She's been shot in the leg. And this is the LeBron verse. He's got a Cavs thing on the kids go, you know, you look to brunt James. I always enjoyed Michael Jordan. I'm a character interests and feelings, Michael Jordan. You know, he heads grace to him. You could lot through the air. Yeah. That's enough. The nursing here, please. So he's like, oh, what happened is while I was shocked by the ice cream, man. And if the ice cream in says, you better deliver drugs, you'd better deliver drugs or he said next time, he's gonna kill music his cream left to look into it. God it, and this is why, you know, a low level mid level and high level drug dealers. Don't have a nickname. Don't have a motif. You just be standing the fucking drug dealer. Totally and stand is not your given name. Exactly it. Sometimes you're on this corner. Subject that corner. Sometimes you're wearing a black cats wearing a hat at all. And then you don't get fucking arrested or shop the street, you're probably not even out on the street period. Yes. Exactly. So Bruce was tracks. This dude down. It's this guy's literally sitting on the front lawn to folding chair with his feet up on a fucking ice cream cart this greatest, it's tippy top ice cream. I think it's called. Are you the ice cream man who wants to know mother fucker do 'cause I'm your last customer, and he just murders. Judy didn't by any drugs that line doesn't make sense. That's true. He should have. I said a drug transaction. He's so lucky because like shooting these student Chester's two guys you run away. Like, I don't know. Maybe one of them will turn around and their bodyguards to talk dealer. What failures?
First Cow And What's Making Us Happy
"Hi this is Linda Holmes from pop culture. Happy Hour! I'm here with my buddy Steven Glenn Hey guys. Hey, well. We are here to share something very exciting, which is that because it is pop culture? Happy hours tenth birthday this summer. We are having a virtual live event. It is going to be on Thursday July thirtieth at seven thirty PM. Eastern Glenn. What do we have on tap? We got friends or the show. Kumail Nanjiani and NPR's own Sam Sanders, so two different kinds of superhero. Pretty. Exciting Stephen What should people do if they want to shape the quiz that I'm going to be industry where you can go to. NPR Presents Dot Org all right. We are excited you can celebrate with us again. Head to NPR PRESENTS DOT ORG and we're GONNA. All have a happy hour together with our buddies and we'll see you there. Sometimes all it takes to change. Your life is a cow imminent film first COW Director. Kelly ryecart follows two men who meet by chance and come up with a plan to get rich. All they need is a couple of ingredients. First cow is a Western of Friendship Story Caper movie and even a meditation on nature. I'm Stephen Thompson and I'm Linda Holmes. We're talking about first cow on this episode of Pop. Culture happy hour from NPR here with. With me and Steven from his home studio is Glen Welton of NPR's art. CESKA, Glenn Ludo and also joining us from Dubai, we have longtime NPR contributor, culture, writer, and critic below as she welcome back the law Hylan. Hi Everyone! Thank you for having me well. Thank you for being with us from so far away. there is not as much set up for this movie as you might usually need Kelly, regard is a director always I think. Think I would say more interested in journey then destination more interested in mood than plot in some ways. If you seen films like Meek's cutoff, which is also a western. You know that she does take time, but this is a pretty unassuming story. At least at first of a cook. His name is Otis. He goes by cookie. He's played by John Madero he's originally part of a further trapping expedition. It's eighteen twenty or so in Oregon, but then. Then he meets got him King Louis. She was played by Orion Lee and the two become friends. They eventually hatch a plan. They're gonNA make money, but they need a cow and the only cow in the territory. The first cow of the title belongs to very nasty, local rich guy who has played by the Great Toby, Jones. That's probably about as much as you need to know. Glen Tell me what you think about first cow well I mean. The words that keep getting applied to Kelly Reichardt or things like quiet, spare, minimalist and one reason for that is when she frames her characters in nature, she does it in a way. That plays up the characters. Not really the nature is nothing, panoramic or sweeping. mean. It's you know it's gorgeous. Landscape is the Pacific north. West often, but this is not a gorgeous like John Ford Western. And one reading for that as many films are shot in aspect, ratio that we associate with like old time, television screens, not necessarily contemporary television screens when more square than rectangles, so we stay on the characters, and she's not her themes right, and she sticks to them so to look at some of our more recent films Wendy and Lucy in two thousand eight, was about a woman living out of her car, just scraping to get by MEEK's cutoff. You mentioned in two thousand ten was about a wagon train. It gets lost. They get low on food going through this empty scrubby landscape, and it's just their life becomes. One of subsistence basically night moves twenty thirteen. Was a thriller, but let's slap a big old asterisk on that term thriller because this is Kelly Record so. Sort of a thriller and then certain women in two thousand sixteen one right before this one that was more of a flex for her, because it focused on people a little bit more comfortable, so their desperation was more the kind of familiar literary fiction. Hal's emotional desperation now this film is set in this incredible, lush green forest, and yet the Living Day to day. Existence is grimy and. Again, it's about. Subsistence gathering like when we first meet cookie. He's gathering mushrooms. which sets you up for the way this whole movie is going to. Have some fun with that masculine. Feminine Divide because you know hunting and trapping thought of his masculine and gathering and cooking, for that matter of thought of his feminine, or at least traditionally so all shots of cookie, whisking the batter, or you know whatever sweeping the cabin that's playing with all these expectations that have gotten drilled to us so I didn't find it as spare. Some other work I think in many ways. This is the. The warmest film of Hers that I've seen because that friendship at the center of it between these two men is so intimate, but fair warning to people who haven't seen a Kelly record film before as you mentioned Linda This has her deliberateness. One of the opening shots of the film is a barge floating down river we see it. Enter the screen. We see across the screen we leave. The screen takes about a minute. When that happened? I was like all right. We're doing this. Okay all right. I'll tell me what you think about cow. Yeah, I, actually would probably not have remembered it, even because it sort of came out at the beginning of March. Some of you may know and was then it's it's released was canceled essentially into cinemas, but I read about it and I guess it's the kind of film that aside from critics raving about it. It wasn't really going to be generating. Lots and lots of excitement as we've all discussed what I found initially since I'm in the middle of binge-watching Indian. Matchmaking on Netflix attention span is clearly on a very different cake right now so I initially found drifting into this drifting film quite challenging, but once I gave into it. I definitely a really regretted that I didn't get a chance to see this in the cinema to be honest. Honest with you because it's a film that really suffers. If your phone is sitting next to you because I think if you don't have it with you, you're allow yourself much more to fall into this forest where it all happens, and you know. I was thinking as I was watching this too that it's actually a movie about eighteen twenty in about the settling of America with a Chinese character. Character at the center of two, so I'm also used to really not thinking of frontier western settling movies with this kind of protagonist. It's usually we'll talk about sort of people of color or the secondary characters and awaits the White Guy who's kind of more of the drifter in the follower and kind of a little bit less I mean it's. It's this character King Lou. WHO's much more aggressive? Aggressive lack of a better term were present person in this relationship, so I really liked it and I also just loved how it subverted ideas of masculinity. Which I think we associate so much with Westerns in particular, because these are not alpha males. They're quite Beta if I may say so in that they like to cook like to be friends and hear about each other's feelings and make. Honey. Honey rush cakes. Yeah, exactly so I thought that was actually very very Portland and very Oregon, but. Ashes really Interesting Foam one of the things I really took away. Is that focus on the this close close friendship that they have and I? Think when you talk about the bond between them, I don't think you can say that. It overtly plays with the idea of kind of couple mess for them, but as Glenn said, and as blows also saying there is a kind of a sharing of domestic life. That's very important to them. There's also a kind of a without spoiling it I can say there's kind of an opening image that makes a promise about. About what you're going to learn in this movie, and it very much sets an expectation of the bond that's between them, and this is kind of the framing device. In which Ali Shaukat plays a woman with her dog. Who Goes is out in the woods and finds evidence of them, having been there in an artifact of their existence as it were, and then you're kind of circling back through their story to come back to you know how that came to be and what their story was Steven. What did you think about this film? I liked it a lot. It's really interesting when we talk about movies that are slow paced like this will often have this debate of like. Is it meditative or is it slow and for me I found it meditative. I also found it at times exciting in its own way I. Mean we mentioned in the intro that it is a crime caper complete with a a last big score that's on a scale worthy of its era. It manages to be about seemingly small things, but at the same time the stakes don't feel low, and I really really appreciate one thing. Thing that Kelly Reichardt does really well is established her settings in ways that feel true to the era. I think it's really important that this is a story about all of these people who are kind of trying to make their way in in this territory, and they're from all over the world they are all kind of trying to make their fortune in this new world, and so you have people who are Chinese. You have people who are British. You have people who are from Maryland. You have people from all over the place instead of this kind of homogeneous. Storytelling that we often get in Westerns you get a sense of what it must have been like in these very very desperate circumstances, so your point to Steven one of the things that we've been talking a lot about this friendship, but there are actually quite a lot of other characters and actors who appear in the film, and there's a sequence in a saloon where there's a bunch of guys and you actually do get to see lots of other faces, two of those settlers of different kinds and also indigenous people who live in this place that settling, and so while it has central relationship part of what I also really. Really liked was the cast is actually bigger than I. initially anticipated, and there are more faces to see and think about, and and in a way also contrast with this kindness gentleness of these two men against the kind of environment that they're in which is a lot of very harsh people and harsh faces as well. Yeah, and I think, too. It is a film about friendship, and it is a film as all says places that quote unquote settling of this area in the context of the people who already live there and the experiences of the people who already lived there and Kelly record has talked somewhat about this, but. Because it is about this incredibly scarce resource of this cow, and these men who have this plan to try to survive and thrive and do what they think they're supposed to do. As people who are settling this area again settling in scare quotes I think I like the fact that it becomes a film that is also about first of all. What right have these two men to the cow belonging to the Rich Guy Right? WHO has brought this cow at his own expense probably? But I think there is also an implication of kind of what right has toby Jones to the milk? The cow, so it's sort of. I think it connects the exploitation of one person by another person. To the exploitation of nature by humans, so it's kind of like what does it mean that people who are setting up this economy decide that one person can own an animal and milk that comes from the animal. Because what sense does that make? Yeah, this is a film about capitalism. It's about how the system is rigged, and how attempts to circumvent it are Let's just say fraught, and what Kelly Reichardt does. This is a this is a common theme in her in her work, which what she does here, she give the audience credit for having some intelligence to intuit things if you watch. Watch the face of the kid who's waiting in line for one of their cakes. He doesn't get one because the last one gets sold to the person before him. There's a disappointment on his face for one moment. That's comic. That's like aw, but she holds on him for a long time for us to see that something's going to go on. That disappointment is GonNa curdle into something else and I think that's one way. It circumvents a big pitfall for a historical fiction. Because Kelly record has a very modern sociopolitical. Take a very modern sensibility, so if your thoughts about capitalism lineup with the films. There's always a danger of feeling not pandered to catered to and I. I worry I was worried about that that there's something. When the happened something ahistorical might creep into the story, but I mean what's the alternative. The alternative is for this to be like the myth of the American dream. It's a scrappy startup. It's like you have cookie. Go on how I built this to talk about oily cakes, and that's just not what this film wants to be. I think you're right. The risk is always that the messaging quote unquote in a film like this we'll be all text and know subjects, and that's why I think the fact that she makes a very specific and I mentioned earlier, the kind of the opening image that the whole film seems to be building back to explaining. She makes a very specific decision to under explain that image. I, think she makes a very specific decision about how to end the film. That has a restraint. Restraint to it, and I think that restraint is reflected in the way that she uses the story to get at the points that she's trying to make, but I think it's worth a mention that she in addition to working on the script and being the director, she does her own editing and I. Think when you watch it. You think like well of course because for her. The edit is half of the direction. If you don't have control over the pace, then you know. Know all would be lost. She's also very much a stylist and I think the movie is also very much about kind of independent style that she has and I and I do think that I remember first hearing about her. When there was a lot of conversations around who are the women filmmakers in Hollywood who still makes movies and gets the made, and you know in a way with Kelly Reichardt and I think that's true of a lot of her film. She's always had. Had her own stamp and her own signature and I think that's also in of itself. Really great because you know that when you see one of films, it's about a place that she lives in a place that she keeps returning to the Pacific northwest. It has a signature and I think that's something about her. That I also find really exciting that there could be ideas related to politics or culture, but it's also a vision very much only hers, and I really respect that. I also think it's crucial to the tone and setting of this movie. It's use of music. I. Think is really really careful and important to kind of just the overall feel. The score is by the Guitarist William Tyler. He's got a number of records that are terrific, and it really adds to just kind of the overall feel of the movie I also liked the fact. The music is so crucial at one point. There's a guy in the town and he's playing a fiddle and it's Stephen Malcolm. Malcolm from pavement El. Al. So there's clearly some thought going into the end of the music I really love that. Yeah, well, let us know what you think about first cow. It is available on demand and find us on facebook at facebook dot com slash pch or tweet us a pch. Let us know you think Oh. We come back. It's going to be time for our favorite segment of this week and as you know every week. What is making us happy this week, so come right back. Support for this podcast and the following message come from the Glenn Limits New Caribbean reserve expression a new single malt with a bold tropical twist that is selectively finished and barrels that previously held Caribbean rum, offering a sweet and smooth taste. Learn more at the Glenlivet dot. com the Glenn Limit. Caribbean Reserve Single Malt Scotch whisky enjoy our quality. Forty percent alcohol by volume, eighty proof twenty, twenty imported by the Glenlivet distilling company New York New York. Welcome back to pop culture. Happy hour from NPR. It is time for our favorite segment. What's making us happy this week? Stephen, I'm GonNa go to you first Stephen Thompson. What is making you happy this week? One of my favorite bands Sylvan Esso announced that they've got a new album coming out this fall called free love and if you haven't heard Sylvan. Sylvan Esso an absolutely wonderful, clever personality, drenched synth pop band, the singer. Amelia meath is also one of the singers in mountain, man, she and her partner Nick. Sanborn put together these gorgeous like really rich electronic soundscape that just bubble with life. They released the first track from the album this week. It's called Ferris wheel. What's here a little bit of it? Being. You. Choose. Was! Then and. It's such a rich summary. Warm, playful sound, a new Sylvan, Esso record is just exactly what I needed in this summer of twenty twenty. The album free love doesn't come out until this fall September twenty fifth again. That's Sylvan Esso the album coming out this fall is free love and I just can't wait for the world to hear it all right. Thank you very much. Stephen Thompson Glen Weldon. What is making you happy this week warrior nun. Say It soft, and it's almost like praying fantasy series on Netflix's about a dead girl who gets an angel's Halo implanted in her back and comes back to life with superpowers to join a secret society of Demon fighting nuns. look. Is it good you know I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. Take a pass on that question, because it doesn't as relevant to the situation because my situation was I had spent a week in Kelly, Reichardt land with the grey in the rain, and the desperation and the ultra realism, and all those dirty grimy fingernails, and I was just only too happy to take a side trip to Sunny Spain, which is where the set? With the Churches in the mansions, and the and the butt, kicking the copious butt-kicking. Now I'm only few episodes in. I have to say that if there is a fireworks factory, it's taken them a long time to get there and there's a really annoying voiceover, because it's a team show on Netflix, and that's the law, but the lead is a Portuguese actress named Alba Baptista paying a warrior nun. That's a little on the nose universe, but. But I'M GONNA. Give it to you. I'm also really liking her mentor who's called Shotgun Mary played by Toya Turner on its own. Who knows synagogue? I don't know, but as an antidote to all this realistic minimalism, a little fantastical maximalism is Is What I? What I'm in the market for so that's warrior nun on Netflix Thank you very much. Glen Weldon Warrior nun all a Baloch Karachi. What is making you happy this week? Well My. Pleasure of the week has come from Leeann lavas third album. WHO's the singer Songwriter from London and I? I WanNa just briefly mentioned before going into Y. it's making so happy that Stephen Thompson was responsible for helping me learn I about her many years ago. When you featured her on your end of year, all songs considered lest I think in two thousand, twelve thirteen I'm not sure twelve, yeah, two, thousand twelve and I've been a huge fan of hers ever since then I think in the beginning Lianne La Voz was sort of spoken of in the same breath as other London soul and rb singers, but she's really a great guitarist musician, composer singer and his third album that she released last. Last Friday, which is called the an Lavas I think might be my favorite of her three albums. It sort of feels very much. Her sound doesn't have a lot of other unnecessary production It's also just a really lovely summer, soul, album and kind of an album that is just pleasurable, and I find that that is kind of what I need as an antidote doom scrolling, which is a tournament becoming more and more familiar with an unfamiliar with trying to avoid so I really loved it, and has a beautiful cover of radio has weird fishes, and there's one particular song I really love called. Sour Flower, which is like seven minutes long and opens with Birdsong and then moves into kind of classically. Lavas, Guitar Work and beautiful vocals and beautiful Eric's. Not for, some announcement made ninety. The Wall. Reaching out for something out. Keeping Ma is. So. Miss Another. Running. Show. You can find me dancing online. Leagues exactly the kind of relaxing song that I need. It's making me very happy. Lianne lavas third album. It's just great all right. Thank you very much Baloch. Hershey I'm making me happy this week. Many of you know of my affection for the ESPN series on television thirty for thirty. I have been treating myself to some of their podcast episodes. Recently, the thirty for thirty series has done some seasons that have been you know one off episodes story story, but they've also done a couple of seasons that dive deeply into one. And their newest season is called heavy metals, and it's about the Karoly gymnastics gym. That kind of was dominant in Romanian gymnastics, but then in American gymnastics for quite a while. If you've followed the believed podcast about the abuse, elite gymnastics or seen any documentaries about it, this is a very interesting fit because it touches on those things, but a lot of it is about the power over elite gymnasts that in some ways to me made them vulnerable to abuse the way that they are big little. Little than beaten down. 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Why Do People Say 'Holy Cow'?
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You come to brainstorm a production of iheartradio brain stuff. Learn Boban here. It seems seems quaint. These days to express astonishment with a wholesome phrase like holy cow. It's so common that we've probably all said at some point. Maybe as kids. And if your sports fan of a certain age you may even associated with baseball announcer Phil Rizzuto or Harry Carey Carey delivered particularly clearly memorable holy cow in his broadcasts so much so that comedian will ferrell often period carry on Saturday night. Live some some people even thought that resute oh or carry might have originated the phrase they were both in the booth in the early days of holy cow but not quite early enough. Russillo began announcing after his playing days. Were over his first season as announcer for the New York. Yankees was in nineteen fifty seven carries announcing career began in the minor leagues in Nineteen Forty. Three and he moved up to the majors in nineteen forty five but holy cow dates from before that. It's what's known as as a minced oath which is when you substitute a kind of maybe similar ish sounding word for a taboo word. That's why we have friggin thing. It and heck in this case cow is probably a stand in for Christ so the speaker wouldn't take the Lord's name in vain minced oaths have been around in the English language for hundreds of years the variations on the holy theme have been in use since the middle of the eighteen hundreds according to the Oxford English dictionary its this definition of holy includes its use as an expletive such as holy cow or Holy Mackerel the first instance listed for this variety of minced. Oath imprint comes in eighteen fifty-five with Holy Moses but what about holy cow specifically it does indeed have ties to baseball but back before Kerry and Rosetto where even born pitcher for the Sacramento Wolves. Thirteen was known as holy cow Peter's according to a report in the Sacramento Union that year. But not even auto holy cow. Peter's could claim to have invented the phrase since that same year the Lincoln Star in Nebraska. Bresca noted that player Manager Charlie Mullen said holy cow so as early as nineteen thirteen people were saying holy cow at least in Sacramento Sacramento California and Lincoln Nebraska. The thing is cows are famously held as holy in Hinduism. They're not gods and they're not not worshiped but cows are considered sacred these gentle beasts after all if more to humans than they take in the form of milk and its products like butter and cheese and manure which we can use as fertiliser. There were a few English language books on India and Hinduism around in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries which coincides with the phrase popping up across America. It's unlikely that baseball players were directly referencing Hindu religious beliefs in creating their new minced oath. But it it is likely that holy cows were something Westerners knew about around that time. And if you're a baseball player who just struck out again and you're forbidden from swearing by elite. Holy cow might start to look like a pretty good substitute for what you'd really like to say. Today's episode was written by Kristen Hall. Geisler and produced by Tyler. Clang Breen stuff is production of iheartradio's how stuff works for more in this in lots of other heck in great topics visit our home implant. It has networks dot com and more podcasts. My heart radio the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows hey guys. I'm Shane Bacon. 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Everything We've Learned About Beauty (So Far)
"Welcome to full coverage of podcast by busy lavas phobias. He loves us. We all your host professional makeup artist. Harry had failed Hind Dog Child. One off of one of your talk show rabbits to. They know that's nice and the unprofessional. Beauty Lover Lindsey Cow. I feel it. We get this out the way. This is a big one. I'm trying to chipper the accepted. Funny Day to be recording this episode Ashley. But we're recording this in the throes of Corona. It's raining really hard outside and we have to. We have some news. That's not ideal but would you just want to say like it's not year as it's not you? It's US this is GonNa be our last episode for a while and I emphasize for awhile. Yes we are going on a hiatus abandoned not because of Corona. He's to be like I was ruined full coverage. I'm like no we gotTA blame if anything. It's helpful coverage because I've been spending a lot of time looking at Sephora website because I haven't been able to leave no we are taking a hiatus for a while. We're both extremely busy. We weren't Oh Corona Gold An. I've still got books right book. I'm workday used to do it then not giving you. I get emails late. Will you not leaving the house evening? Excuse me to thank you. Yeah we just want to say this is not because we love the park and we don't love you. We obviously love the POD. We March. We enjoy doing this so much but it has got to a point where we're both extremely busy. Which is great doing things that we both love. But it's something to give. Yeah and I don't ever want to do this in a way where we're not giving it. Our best shot feel is that we'd always said that from the beginning we will do this until we feel like. We can't do it to a point where it's either doing it half assed or just spending and we want to be able to give it our all every time we do it because you guys deserve that. I don't WanNa do a show deport. No No I. Don't I should Hashtag shot? He actually not smoking so for the time being we. This is GonNa be our last episode for now. I'm positive we're back. It just might be a slightly different form. Might not be exactly as you know it. But it will be can't tell you what that would look why we wouldn't be on hiatus we. This is just having to pause things while we work on some bounds. That was numbers. Like I WANNA work on my solo project. It's like when to announce that robby had left and they will. Everything's fine though. 'cause we're we're in the same room having the compass I also. I think we were saying that we miss each other. It's like whenever we we each have the now. It's kind of like we love. The POD is laws in powered by honesty so much that goes into these episodes as well as all the laws and Lindsey worked so hard in the edits on this and everything. She's like an absolute trooper late. She's literally I love Uber. But you know I think we would like the exciting things have been happening for both of us and we want to be able to like their friends for each other as well and you know not just every time we see each other you know everything about the pods so you guys understand and all we can say is thank you for everything and the listening. Supporting us for our patriarch. People's we love. You love you so mind. You know longtime we'll see what happens. We love you very very much very much. Appreciate it bogus. We're not going to just not do this. Episode switched off. I thought what we thought we would do. Today is talk about everything we've learned in the last three is. It's been three years. I don't believe it's been that long year. We started two weeks ago three. At something parts. downloads lades. Oh Mental. It's been amazing which I think is really good time to like. Take a break on the. We've hit those miles so we wanted to talk about the things. We've learned how has changed. I mean we've seen drastic chains in three years massively. In that time we've seen the rise of influence marketing. We've seen the rise of youtuber own influence own brands. We've seen council culture out careers. Yeah we have seen clean beauty. We have seen green beauty. Whatever that means. We have seen Lebron's Congo. We have seen what I thought. Why Conic Heritage Bronze Close? We have new brands open. Been What have been some highlights for you think I mean I think even when we first started this 'cause we went into it with we both love beauty we always beatty when we see each other. Anyway let's just a Mike honest both and see what happens and I think one of them is maybe not but I think what's interesting is even seeing the way people talk about. Obviously there is more podcast as more different ways of media sharing how to enjoy and I think the emphasis on people for me. They think that specialist people having fun with their. And that's being about a right way to do things and more about having fun with the brilliant thing about makeup and the thing I love till the dad is if I can take off and do again change it and do a different look every day. It's such a magical thing and especially with what's going on right now in the world. I take a lot of comfort and being able to do something I love just myself and it's nice to stay in the mirror and just play with makeup and makes me calmer it makes me feel good. And it's a Nice distraction in somewhat uncertain times. Yeah it's it's so crazy to me one of our earliest episodes when I look back one of our earliest episodes which is mad is when we went to Vegas so that was a highlight three hundred percent. What a highlight and we did the episode about feminism and beauty. Because I had recently at that point had someone say something really slide to me like make up man. How are you a feminist? Make up just so always say I do feel it. We've made leaps and bounds in that he had also do. Philosophy was still fight in which is crazy to me. One of the about how many things have changed and how much more aware people are now of things like cruelty free of clean green. Whatever I hate hate hate it but the idea that we're still having to fight to what I put on. My face isn't on your business. Late does so blows my mind a little bit and I. I like to think we've helped that. I think we've been open to lots of different topics we've covered things like Bo talks. We've talked about FELLAS. Some people might be like all. That's totally not for me or I. We've always tried to be open. Not include everyone and feel like no topics really been to from when we started doing this. The lip injection lip. Fellas was still like just starting to be a thing. I remember we. I remember looking for research because we were talking highly. Jonathan when she had just admit that she done injections and when she was pretending that they weren't fillers and then suddenly they wear and everyone's scandalized and that became normalized so quickly that was mental to me. How quickly we went from being like. Oh my goodness they let seventeen year. Old have lit villas to mass. Every single person is out there in Louisville on Saturday lunchtime without button every everyone normality unusually. But it's no different than getting a heck all of his people getting amount of you know so I think what it did for me is interesting is make partisan even in my own personal views of beauty and what I feel. What for me is that I think the lines have become very blurred. Now with this element of what you take on and off because even with Bo Talk Xetra now those things that can dissolve and then they disappear. Islas can be you know if a MOISTURIZER can change the way. Your wrinkles lurk. Is that just as bad as but I think there's a very. There's a of gray area that I think we have to keep really open minded about instill explore and you know yes. It's good to question your motivation but I think ultimately you have to do things that you feel with and I think the hardest thing is letting go of judgment of other people yes on caroline higher ends friend of the poet so that's one thing we've made lovely friends jets. Caroline postal historian. I'm sure you follow Caroline but she posted recently about having fillers both talks and tweak minutes. I know that's the big hot word right. Now is having a tweet. Mun and Carolina talked about what she'd had and she got a lot of Hay from people who were disappointed. She says using bunny is about having got treatments and not just like accepting her faces is firstly noni. All Business Caroline's quiet. She shared that information with you in the interests of transparency. Yeah and I think that's really. She doesn't have to buy really good of her giving her brandon. Who and what is I think I like to talk about it when I get things done because I the only part of it that ever makes me uncomfortable as the idea that someone's trying to pretend this just how they look then that presents an unrealistic when we present unrealistic standards of Beauty. That won't damaging yeah. Yeah but I think there is anything damaging about saying what you've had done and admitting it and knock knowledge even admitting because it's not mission it's just like acknowledging what you do yes and acknowledging the history of the technician that did make Fox's as good ones as bad ones and has that right okay. It's like you know. Finding the best of the best. He actually is a skill in itself and also knowing what you can afford your price point and where to go that safe like these all things really have to educate yourself crazy. And I've had a couple of like I've had lip fila twice three times. Always with Brianna will wheeler who we had on the part a few weeks ago from facile. I've had talks a lot of times from different places. A and I've seen such a marked difference of the different places I've only gone. I've been very lucky. I've only been to really nice places and had a very practiced inexperienced people do and I've stood at dumb times where I'm like. Whoa that is harsh. I wish my fear that still my personal varies like if I were to ever try it I know it dissolves this year ago also. I went to a place and got that place under the bus but I went somewhere and got bow talks and she did it exactly where I do it but I just got very high arched eyebrow very hard because I was like. I won't eyelid lift. I've had before when I've yet here. But where she positioned it. It just was too harsh or she put in too much. You know like I don't know my maybe. My Body reacted differently. This yeah that's the other thing but it really is an art and it's an art and science. They if you're going to have someone put stuff in your face. This is not change. Mar Advice the first time. Make sure that person. Who's the best person? Do your research choose only after meeting BRIANNA and seeing the care and attention that she takes to every single drop of anything. She's putting in going into exactly where it needs to be. You know how many muscles in your face. It's so many the fine muscles in your face and putting filler into the finest tissues on your body. It's an absolute are. It should be respected. It should be appreciated. And but yeah I do think the most important thing is knowledge and not pretended isn't happening. Yes it's like. Oh you just want people to believe that you still look like you and it's not realistic standard. It's not yes. Everyone else didn't help anyone. I think it's kind of you know. Yes. It is your choice but if I spent president as well for as someone who's in the public someone who actually has an influence whether prompts you're endorsing anti-wrinkle creams let's you know. I think it's fine CEO. I also have this dumb but you know this cream is really in this way. This is and you get a lot of people will do that a lot of celebrities and they say well. I haven't had any procedures. You'll getting a facial every week and you'll get an laser tightening. Yes I what is an undead? There is I've always felt for me. That was something different out edge. Something different about injecting into myself as opposed to applying different. I think that for me. It's always been my obstacle and not something. I know that as I get older I find myself going. We'll do I care. It's still gray area for me and I'm very open about that. I'm like you know I think you do you. Like whatever makes you feel good and I also know that there's women around me who don't have anything donahue look equally beautiful but then the women who have had it done look equally beautiful too. It's not acted on it. Feels right for you. That's the thing it's so personal. It's so personal kick. That's where it when people but it's so bad for you and the way you feel about yourself my only if you're doing it for someone else or for other people's expectations when I'm doing taxes for my own expectations of myself for what I feel comfortable looking back at the Merrill if I look at something a bit tired I reckon I could look a little bit less and that would make me happy. Doesn't make me better. That's just an option that's available to me lay that I'm happy and I think we will continue to see you. Were talking about the tweet moments. I think we'll continue to see a rise of I'm doing. The rubber is quotations. Baby Bo talks. We're going to see more off and I think what we what will happen is that will be a real gray area of the gray area is going to become a middle ground. Not What we're going to see treatments that definitely like Hofmann half of that so again you know. Sometimes you so saying where we're like. This is like Bo talks but it. It's no it's kind of like okay so like that. I could just have very talk that I think that's what's going to be interesting. Does Las Vegas seem brands using the FDA say or asa whatever. They're all cracking down on claims. We're seeing that more and more which I think is important. Yeah it'd be cream that says I do the same thing. Is both dogs like what you were injected into the skin and you paralyzed. Wow It's possible. I remember when number seven. What was it called the serum that they made the one like sold out some documentary than where they tested loads of different creams and they somehow manage to prove that was like one of the only ones actually did some notable and I remember people getting like really nuts that it was a really intense thing with flying off the shelves and it was sold out for weeks weightless an expensive product either. Which is I think why people so yeah excited and I think it fulfilled a claim. I think there's a lot of I think maybe what else has changed. I wonder if you agree with this. Lindsey is our audience and the consumer in general now has more access to education so they know what they want and yes. There's definitely confusion and there's a lot of tons being thrown around like cocktail skin. Carry excetera but I think ultimately the information is there. If you want to find it might take your wall to find a reliable source. Yeah but the consumer now is educated in a way. We want ten years between Youtube Instagram podcasts. And browns no that. I think Brown's no they're competing Donnie. Meat Not Demaim. We've lost magazines. We've lost some most print magazines point. There is such a wealth of Information. And that's why brands are fighting over people like caroline. Hi Nadine back people have everyone's trust and attention because you look at the so many influences out there but then you you've seen this rise which I think is really interesting. I've read an article about am this weekend about the rise of the forty plus beauty blogger. And I'm like it's not to me. It's not the rise of voice because it's not saying like a women in the forty S. I'm going to be forty this year. Women forty plus a just becoming interested. We're just being acknowledged that sad like women of that age bracket have got more disposable income than young women. They are just as interested. They just haven't been knowledge and the thing that you get with that age when it comes to the influences when we look at Dean Dean's career journalists to me. I'm like influence not that I'm disparaging influences. Yes that woman who spent her entire career where he NBC. As a journalist she has so much she's such a wealth of information. There is not a product or brand or something you cannot mention that Nadeem will just randomly pull a factor about. Oh we know. This happened on the anime. Oh my God. She didn't like clip pedia and then caroline who has been working with bronze whole career as well and knows product inside out. No skin inside out is a trained. Facialists has hours and hours and hours like thousands of hours of experience on people's faces and Emma. Guns you're ember is branching out from beach beauty plus on her podcast now but emory's originalists who has worked in this field. She knows they know all this stuff. You're not just buying them because they're older you're getting their experience and their gain the knowledge that you can buy. I think knowledge is the key word and I think I read somewhere that the knowledge industries like quadrupling by the way it's expanding is crazy and I think I remember at one point. We used to get really angry. When they'd be like Oh so and so's now a face specialists so and so's now and it's like they're always going to be out there who don't have much background and don't all they're doing but I think when you find the people that really have that wealth experience and that doesn't necessarily have to move like you know I don't know it spent twenty years in education but props have been working in facial spas props in working with clients one on one. They've actually got some kind of experiences. Real I think that knowledge is what you're when your when that person is being sponsored to do something or you see them collaborating with brand you'll paying for their knowledge and that's what you're watching another experience. Tigra tape because also I think especially when someone is in having to be affiliated with one particular brand. There's a sense of they can tell you the generic generic information you need. And that's what I think anyone who's good at what they do within the social media sphere especially in beauty yes. They'll work with bronze they love as well. Because why shouldn't they get paid to promote Brownsville going to Peru anyway but you know generally they can give you the information. That's not even brand specific. Yeah and I think for me I gain trust. Yeah sure I'm getting more information. I definitely I don't really watch as many influences in youtubers anymore. Just general yes knowledge lifestyle type thing but now especially bt. I'm GonNa look at the beauty. Focus the Danes. The Caroline's even a Jeffrey Salt Lake. I love watching. Jeff reviews because I'm seeing him. Use the product watching him do it so I'm not worried that he's just played. It made it look good. I'm watching and put it on so you know whether you like him or not. I enjoy it because I like his experience and he now as a brand founder. Anna Brando knows what good product is. Yeah I definitely find myself targeting. Those we like honing in on the people that specialize in the thing that they do on the people that I really genuinely believe in their integrity. The I just don't believe I don't believe Nadeem Bag. It's going to take a payday. The Dean's not going to risk a lifetime's career on one payday for a brand. Like she's not GonNa do something unless she believes in it and I just think that's that's the thing that's definitely become more hardened me over the last couple of years. I think three years ago everyone was doing everything. Yeah and now it feels like your real sources of information becoming more niche in a good way and I do appreciate that. I'm I'm not mad about seeing fewer influences. I think I think the word influence is so loaded with feeling and emotion for a lot of people and also again even that misunderstanding. What exactly I think for me. I have no issue with someone calling without all that word personally but I think for me why do is I create content. That's why whether it's the pope cost. What's my youtube? Channel was my instagram and me my driving factories always how can I answer a question? How can I educate? How can I inspire because I think you know if he was asked me? What my goal is I really. It's to help make up artists that are wanting to grow and also to help people that confined make quite intimidating. Yeah get out of that feeling of doing it right and just have fun with it and I think what we've loved about doing this. Podcast that sense of the community that the you know it's just it's it's escapism. By the communities go nowhere. The facebook group will still be open. You guys crack on So much trying still going to be. I'm not GONNA stop loving. I mean imagine the yeah I just like I thought bubble late probably probably two years eighteen months ago where we had that like the high times and this happens with any trend happens. It happens with music. Apples with celebrities. Ams with anything is cresting. There will be a bubble of a people that are at the forefront of it and we had that Moment Manny Laura Gabriel Nikita Dragon. Jeffrey saw all those people were everything. Brett Moon rocks put into that category. Now here's us. We do love him and they had their names on everything. They had their fingers in every pie. They were sponsored by every brand they will live in large. It was all bright colorful loud and then there was all the drama. There was the tea yes and I think. Even that for me is how I've seen. The industry shift is become more like a reality. Tv in some ways as a sense of like violet graze. And you kind of more. I'm just hit by re beautiful products. Yeah don't want to know Bach Story. Just give me and I think that was why that bubble to burst because it was never about the beatty Branston Bassin brand content. And it's like yes you buy into them and I one hundred percent if that's your jam and you just love watching videos. I used to watch a lot of money videos because I enjoyed him. Yeah and then the more I watched it the less I enjoyed it. It made me not have fun so I stopped and I stopped. Engaging that's a really important self-care tip enjoying something. Stop watching it completely. I mean we'll watch something trending what Nikki did with the power of makeup was amazing and I think such a great discussion around but then it turns into like my truce of the arguments for so and so and I won't let it slide James Jones me. I'm like wait. Is this about makeup. Or is this about trying to become a celebrity? Like don't understand that and again I need to call great. If that's what your brand is right. I think for me if you were Brown. Donors should always be about consumer your customer and get to know them and making sure they because I think as well the biggest thing I hope continues to evolve as well and beauty is the education side of like not. Just here's a great product. Here's a great product and this is how unchanging sweetie. This is how it makes it easier or your routine quicker and I think that for awhile again I do think a little bit Judah the influencing really it was like his distinguished great. But it's like wisey great. Why do I need my hard-earned and I do things the rise of someone like a Katie? Jane use a direct correlation to the fall in that complaint. And so it was like we've gone from having these very bright brash larger than life character. Yes who were very much if they tighten no themself know about the product or the brand of the education so then we see someone like Katie. Who very much shows her personality and who she is in her life but I think it's education for core for Katie's we talked to are we in. Yeah and that was the biggest thing that she was like. I think the most important the biggest forthcoming trend will be an education and I just think she's such a breath of fresh air compared to that. Oh she's just a very very strong alternative the every wash success. Yeah there's definitely room for everyone but I think what we said there are trends within bt and even with the people that are influencing beauty. And I think that will continue to evolve and I think you know I. I've loved seeing you know creatives. I've loved seeing certain creators. Be Given a voice. Yes through social media. Who perhaps before you know is company like looking for a needle in Haystack? Especially the more of us that are but there is room for all of us and I think ultimately it's about finding the things that make you tick with beauties Budi me who like. Can you watch my video? I've just started there so can you and I might cool great but I think like you. You don't need anyone's approval either. You don't need someone bigger to say. Oh that's really good. It's like if you feel passionate about it. You're already doing the right thing. Yeah I agree. It's it's just I just. It's really weird isn't it? I just I used to watch so many youtube videos and now I know you I was thinking the same the other day actually like my. I think even my own channel. I've definitely found like I think I've said to you before. Lands is a book. Read Correspondence by Greg McHugh. And it's about doing last better because I think as well for all of us no matter what your job is. There's definitely been feelings within beauty industry and many other industries sometimes. Where it's like you've got to do everything and I've definitely dabbled with even pause. Sarah Mart I loved. You know like we always wanted to make sure we're making content that we care about an passionate about and I think sometimes people feeling burn out was well within that and even the you know the newness the newness all the time I think that something again I think browns are also becoming more aware. That consumers understand that skews on shelf on what they're necessarily after or it's like that was really sake of needing that was really interesting outcome for me conversation with April from ventas daughter when she very much dropped or you will like what's next event daughter owned shows lake. I working on one thing and then after I don't know he's just like I'm more interested in putting multiple products on a show of justice put new skew in every season to replace someone else's skew and yeah. That's it's really interesting that such a we were in a point of it was a fever pitch and we have seen that but worse we've seen. The beauty bubble is bursting late. Numbers are down year on year. Two thousand nine hundred and was down on two thousand eighteen. The share is for sure. GonNa be down if only because of coronavirus impact that's going to have on outlets and shipping and manufacturing in the Far East and in Italy would definitely we've reached fatigue and what was a really interesting again. It was the year we were all watching consuming so much more than we were before when you were buying two magazines a month like looking at ten pages and then suddenly. You're looking at ten videos a day from all different people who are using all different products every single day. Fifteen different shuttle pilots. You know and it's what I wanted I wanted. I wanted to create terrifying foam. Oh and then for celebrities to come a makeup artists to come out of that even when you look at like Patrick Ta who came from instagram before it was like you would see the makeup artist and then you would Zemo instagram. But now he's on instrument then they become the makeup and snake has eaten its own tail as though in a way that is very very interesting when now the influences influencing the browns instead of the bronze influence influences and I just think I do think that has really really kicked off a lot of conscientious beauty and being conscious what you're buying and we get so many messages now. We get people on facebook group all the time saying. How do I address this on Patriots? How do I reconcile my love of beauty with my desire to be more sustainable? And I think that's GonNa be the biggest trend we see especially at like a drugstore level. Where is just a constant turnover? Height that fast fashionable. It's the same with me now. I think it's like okay well. This is the trend in makeup Joe. Line or line a pen. Everyone has to align Pano. Everyone wants to a shadow. That's in like a stick formula or whatever in it is and that will always be there. I think to an extent but I think as well with an also I'd say there's been more indie bands more than ever. There's been more indie brands. Getting more of avoid. Yeah I was GonNa say I feel like there's more social media for me? I love it. It's given them more rate side. It just takes product to go viral in quotation marks. Again you know and it really helps cats oppo brown into the spotlight that perhaps otherwise you would have relied on print media you know afford. Yeah the it would have been relationship so I think that's a real benefit as well fisher. I choose something like like. I love Fendi. The what it's done has been a game changer. In the industry and I love it for that but I do think frontiers a brand and its own by Ken does. It's part of Sephora. Lvmh group it's not everyone anti Israel Anna and they've been very clever about making that the message and yes we honor is behind anti but it's also owned by Kendo which owns Sephora as part of. Lvmh is a giant corporate brand. Riana is in charge of the creative tool intents and purposes. She's very closely aligned with a brand. I think is someone who is very in control of her. Brandon would not yet be not would not not be like she would just chuck a name on something walk out but he is also a brand that puts out quite a lot of product lake. Nothing to everything and it's not sustainable for us for the consumer. Well I think it's no I think again with those big brands. They're even like it's like no one helps himself. It's like if one big bronze doing it. The other big oil we should. We need more skis. We need you for what is it. They call it like when it's in between it's like the mid four four nine collection every month. Yeah like Mike was one of the first like do crazy. Amounts of collections and now is the luxury brands. But also again I think collaborations you know the collaboration side of beauty to make it that it's going to sell out by now and I think that is. The foam thing is such a big controversy and I'm guilty of it no mind to it so easily. I'M A CONSUMER ANIMA MAKE PARTISAN. I hold my hands up to that. I'm a sucker for packaging. I'm a sucker for high like yes. I'll kind of speak my mind once. I know once I've tried it. Sorry but I think the sustainability thing is saying we're going to keep talking about I think for me as a make potus. I find it hard because obviously irrelevant. And what's happening with CORONA BEFORE KRONA? We've been at the forefront of my work so you know like disposable strolls you know it's individually wrap straws because. I can't have straws floating around in my bag you know. There's a certain element of what I can and can't do yes. I can use disposable. Sorry I can use reusable rounds on myself but I can't use as my care on how you can use boop I'm calling. Us Know Cotton Bus. So this there's always going to be different things and again. I think that will keep evolving and other browns are going to take on those challenges and say well. Okay we'll make the solution to that problem. So you can be a make possibly be fully as dateable and you know and I'm sure there's those options being made right now so I think things will come. I think because well. It doesn't help when you know again. People educating each other is great but the hating on people for stuff as well I think is really tirade. Cancel CULTURE AND ATTACK. Culture is just gotten a little bit too much for me. I mean we'd like we said we'll take ages and yes as because we're both really busy with other projects. We need to commit more time effort to which you should be excited about. Quite frankly I give you refunds of our other work get excited. We'll talk about that another time but it's also the I am suffering a bit Bernau bit. We'RE NOT. I'm not as excited like when I get a product I love. I am excited but when I look at the news every day when I opened another press. Release Ole another press release. Yeah they it takes so much more to get me gays because you see the same tax you the same marketing. Spiel and get so point. Where it's like. Oh Not squally squad squalene while lane you see squalene is like a big old definitely beyond a trend is definitely out sense of like. Oh God we draft part. We need to make that product and I think you know again. It's I think it's confidence in your brand as well knowing what you do well and not being like everyone else and greenwashing has been a major issue for me. That's really frustrated me being in this space because we get asked all the time you know what products agreeing what products are safe. What agreeing save. What's nontoxic and the thing that makes me crazy about that is not that brands are attempting to be more sustainable. More environmentally conscious more responsible. It's that fear mongering and that drives me into that product down another thing ultimately after remember about every single product out there and I'm sorry every single product out there. It's out there to make money. Yeah so business. No one's out there to lose money. No one's out there. Just do a nice thing for you. That's not real life. Leak Sephora is a corporate machine all the brands in Sephora to earn their pay ever own every inch of space that they have everyone is a corporate machine. Their end goal is to sell you. Something the fantastic thing is when they're angle alliance with your end goal which is to have fun with makeup and express yourself creatively fantastic when angle overwhelms your end goal and just makes you feel anxious makes you feel not good enough. Makes you feel that you are not achieving astonishing beauty. That is acceptable in society. That makes you feel that. You're not good enough because you can't buy everything that's too much. And that's not okay. And now the new strand of that is what you're buying isn't green screen even winning. And I think there's no clarification I think until that is clearly you know it's a bit like I remember when magazines I started saying like you know shot with lashing sets and stuff. It's like you know people would say oh has been retouched but I think I don't know I just think sometimes not grey area explaining something unless we know what it is then. It doesn't help any exactly. You can't say Glean Creativity Glean which is green and clean combined. I'm waiting for that. You say Green. You can't say clean. You can't nontoxic because nothing is toxic. No one is to say. Your product is a nontoxic implies that the problem was. And you know how much testing goes into. These things is an industry all of its own. It's crazy it drives me crazy that yes there ingredients that you should be conscious and aware of. I know it's not a bad idea to avoid their poppies involved. You guys and it's about to get real. I mean emotional enough already. Roadway Volley get off the SOFA bodies being shy. He's got any minute but yeah I mean we. People want to be wary of relates. People want to be wary of things like that and I know I understand that. Paran satellites the things that you hear about over and over and over in plastics. Yes those are things. We need to be aware of because they can be hormone disruptors. He agrees agrees. And we should all be save. But there's a difference between being safe and being aware and scaring people. Yes exactly and a lot of brands are not straight up at what they do. I really liked about bio since who are very much leading. This green charge is that they are very realistic about what that means they are renewable. They're making those squall lane as bioidentical squally. They use the sugar cane to make their packaging. Everything's recyclable. They're just so honest and upfront about it. They're not saying we're green and clean defining that until someone can say in one sentence how you define clean or green. Yeah I think it will always be something taken with a pinch of Salt Lake. You know have your own idea of what you're willing to put in your face and not willing for everyone but there might be something that's not considered clean the actually what. Utah was clean and vice versa. People that say I don't WanNa to use chemicals. It was like well. I hate to tell you this thing. Comical like what does the chemical yeah? It's really it's really hard and retinal is still the only product that is FDA daily ingredients. Fda cleared to correct wrinkles. The actually the only thing that you can use it can say I have been medically tested clinically tested correct. Wrinkles sorry apologies. Everyone take break away. It caught me off mid flow much like body. Anyway I was just getting mad. About scaring people It just drives me crazy. Each thing like we're seeing more and more people being conscious about cruelty freebie which is fantastic. Yes obviously I feel. It goes without saying bungalow. Say it we'll want see an end to animal testing. Yes Sir Donald Hastings does happen doesn't need to happen. I think what it's hard for people is when they've been using a brand that doesn't test on animals and then they find out that. Brian changes their sales policy and they started selling into areas. That require animal testing. I think a thing. That's quite difficult here. It's somebody asked me this on instagram a few weeks ago. I didn't ask me anything in somebody. Who's like do you use? Do you use cruelty free beauty and this feels like a setup your like wherever you are going to be. I don't so it makes me but then I sound terrible person by like no I love to use proceeds at my favorite. Like of course I don't. It's such an emotive term because you're immediately brought to mind with all his two ads from the nineteen for animals being tested on vivisection and all that terrible terrible self. The reality of it now is many brands that sell in China. They do not themselves tests on animals. Obviously all through Europe the UK. It's all illegal but China which is really really awful and wrong unfortunate but it is still a really difficult gray area and until we get China and Asia to change things. The big corporations are not going to stop doing it because they can't afford to and it's yes we should vote with our money and yes we should if we want it to change. We should try to us where we can but it's really hard. It's easy say and harder to do especially with me. I have clients that like what they like. And you know it's not my it's not fair but my opinion on someone else. I respect what my clients want so I tried have a very diverse kit and I think again I want someone to feel good in the makeup wearing. I know one hundred percent people I work with would prefer all the browns to be quilty free but some people have irritations to sending. Some people have allergies. You have to go with what works Pierre Time. Especially when it's all skincare brand change too wild used to be leaping buddies or they were cruelty free and now they're not because they're selling in China Charlotte. Tilbury was the big one recently. A lot of the rationale behind that which was gossip in the beauty industry is that she's ultimately. GonNa try and sell the brand soon right so obviously if she sells in China that massively inflates her brand value. Yeah because she's open a new market that literally billions of dollars not millions billions of dollars it could potentially add brand value so if she sells a company that sells in. Asia is far more valuable to the buyer. Then a company that doesn't and that's again where it comes down to the fact that these corporations these are not yes charlotte till we face is a human has when you think about Charlotte Tilbury. Lebron you think about Charlotte. But there's also a board and a company INC and people that have to be reported to for prophets and that's how all decisions are made. It's not just that one person it's really. It's really complicated. I find business fascinating. It does me I loved is it W. W. Yes daily Dot Com. Yes not wwe. Very I was like wait a minute I I still find it fascinating and the idea that literally to me and you. It's I pick up like like a Gucci Lipstick Pickup Gucci Lipstick in show in a shop and I have an immediate dopamine rush. I feel incredible. It's beautiful I look at it. I smell it I try on. I look at how I look. I think about how I will feel as a woman owns a Gucci Lipstick. I think about how framers I think about telling my friends about it. I think about how I'm GonNa feel when I opened my hand back and see it in two weeks and just pull it out when I'm having a day on an all these wonderful things that happen when I have a personal connection with that one product that one product to the company is bottom line. Yeah when the only connection that company has with that product is how much made of it. Yeah so it's like everything else. You're you're putting on it. You're creating the marketing teams job but again again. That's their job. That's how they earn their money. I'm I'm the one that's doing everything else. I'm the one that's creating all of the feeling. And the connection they they're making money and like I think when you're having a hard time feeling burnt. How or you're upset because a brand-new light made a choice. You kinda have to remember that. Take it personally and actually just say okay if this is my ethical choice. I'm just going to buy from brought us all you can do in that though with your wallet. Hey starbucks yeah. That's the best thing you can do to tell them that you don't like them. It's not go in and tell them you don't like them just don't they? Don't spend your money there. And eventually they'll got business. That's how it works like I'm not saying don't tell your friends but I'm saying like don't go into net and scream about things because that's just gonNa make you angrier. Yeah getting angry online. Only makes you feel worse. Doesn't make anyone else feel worse. Leave at the door. No I'M GONNA try and cheer up a bit dead heavy. Some of your favorite moments of the last three years favorite products fail holds. Oh my gosh save any Vegas now when you said that for me was the Wanting we literally right now but we will do that. Yes I love Vegas breakfast in bed with Paul was the best. I remember seeing pancakes with the microphone. I was life is good and also I think like that thing of you know I live with boy which I love very much very much but also I think beauty for me brings me back to my girlfriends and friends also love playing with makeup just being on to play with makeup and being with friends who enjoy makeup too and I think for me the best bit about makeup general personally relevant from my job is getting ready to go somewhere. I mean that's always been when Vegas Getting Ready Together. I was like Oh Mississippi much fun just to have that beyond say on adults around this all week. Long Self Care is just something you'd if it makes you feel good when we were getting ready to go so we'll just do it. I'll make but now we would call that. I know that like even when I went to Palm Springs received a little vacation like there was a feeling of. I'm going to have like an hour. Let's get ready each plan. And that was like golden and not just for me. I was like all this nice have time to do my house. The I'd like to do without but I think for maybe one of the Nice things is that I appreciate even more through. What we've done is my one of how important the experience is like a really nice takeaway for me is the all always look. I have like a new understanding of like not only everyone's point of view from the browns that consumer to influence or whatever but I think that thing of being experienced in how important that is. You know it doesn't just stop taking the product. Yep Yeah I think the community that has come up around the part reinforces everything you just said. And that's so true. I've loved the facebook group of loved when we did on me up. It's been so great to see because again. It's a weird. That beauty is a self care moment but it can be quite isolating because it is a solitary experience and you might not know and again boo patriarchy. We've been taught to believe that we should be a little bit ashamed of it and it's vein and it's the you shouldn't be invested in yourself. You shouldn't be staring in America in your eye shadow and carrying about it that much because not just men are. The women will judge you for it. And Ashley through this podcast. I found out there. All literally thousands of us who love as well. That was the other cool to Seattle Real. I mean remember when we first started the facebook group like some of you who were in other countries that didn't have access to the same products as some of the other facebook grease. I'll send you so. I was just like that so amazing. I love the connects. People like there's just a genuine joy of I want you to experience regardless of anything else I ever happening with the pod through December challenge will be on December challenge on and we'll be doing all secret Santa because it's just such a lovely lovely saying make it's been so nice and there's been so many people we've met through this that we talked to Katie. That was fantastic. I've met Nadine become a really good friend. Emma friendships formed and we remember having Dr Murad on and learning about again learning. Even nothing about life you know that was I was like what about first interviews such little newbies. But we've love learning and love meeting new. People and I think we've had such a privilege getting to spend time with these caters these chemists people so many. Yes kicking women. Yeah I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot about what it takes to succeed like a lot about Jerusalem saying Liz. Oh said something recently where she was at. You know there is no such thing as success and I think a lot of founders that we've interviewed as well they were really kind to share their struggles as well and not just make CALICO. Yeah was that easy. I can get this and move. It's like they're still learning. They're still growing and I think that's really empowering Yes for sure I mean that's one of the big things that's what I learned every every single time depending on today's the one lesson that is consistent with everyone is. You're going to fail before you succeed or you're going to fail at some point you know it's like you've got to figure that out you have to learn how to work with failure and move on. Yeah just think about it. Like wink liner. You probably not going to get your eyeliner right the first time. And if you do get your line to the right the first time maybe on the tenth time you're GonNa fuck it up but you could always just do again. That's what cue tips of all in Zimbabwe. So good a learning and then again the other way there you go a some of your favorite products that you've come across either because of the pod or in the last. I mean you have the neighbors we. I'M NOT GONNA lie to like my my love of color. Pop has much strengthened. Feel like I never. Let's say I'm not sorry I feel like it's not. I mean that's the thing if I look back now remember when the Nar I feel like again. It's not thing when we have. You tried the cure mass when we were already working like we've had so many things like older new. There have just been amazing and even like the wave of things happening in the industry. There's been some real ups and downs the BT industry. But I think all that can come is good from here out. You know. I think the way I knew it was time for us to take a break was that I think it's the death knell for highlight. Is this season. I I've seen a real drop off to sign a sign first episode. Tyler is to go on office so we'll be like I can now see much is how much highlight do. I currently have yellow. I will say there is like a clearer dozen of anti much stick coming. Matchstick highlight Chanel. Obviously a lot cheaper than the Chanel so say I'm not done because there's always room for all of your highlight spin in terms of product wise. Gosh are they definitely here. Ns which I wouldn't have cared about if it weren't for the same vintner's daughter. I would never have known so much about and we got to April. Who is a real champion of women and a sport of ours? A bunch of beauty. Post off yeah sure. Which is something that's happened in our time? Gosh what else. There's so many there are so many I think about. Why have with me all the time? Lemaire fluid soft move around Asia. Probably without the podcast probably wouldn't have done that. Oh tried that the metrics flushes. Will you love them so pretty? And they're really they're really is a disturbing amount of product disturbing amount of don't have come across because of this podcast. The elements pads the elements. Oh yeah the dynamic dynamic are amazing. Change those like from various bronze sees as my party. Can't I love the elements wounds? Glitches feel like they're so gentle lactic based right and I think that was a trend that we saw peak was the glide colic toning. I know that hasn't gone away but I do think it's relaxed. Which is good. Yes because we were all on stripping skin and destroying the Mantle Ronnie Agrees Ronnie is like Strip you either either on your part to f. off Barney says acid Montell is important protect it. Spf as well guys. Yeah SPF always. Hunt Gordon's yeah. I'm trying to think what else specifically Lash Paradise. Yes Oh my Gosh Howard. I of Moscow wins is royal volume reveal. Boys were Tommy that we've gone to. I was GONNA say death but that sounds intense Jerry Mountie. We've had teams rip. We've had cake Apollo slot even kind of I've got so. That really was like shopping moment for me when that happened. And let guys reloaded one on an an ipod. Steady on steady on But Yeah beaujoire closing border on the UK is absolutely crazy bananas to me that was like did not see that comment to make way for Kylie which bonkers do feel like I mean Kylie was an interesting story for the business because it was the last giant deal it was the last eight billion dollar brand because then when drunk elephant sold it sold for a little bit less than people expected they throw it will be a billion I think it was eight hundred million right. People thought it would go for more. My numbers are slightly off because I'm not researching them as we're doing it but people thought it was going to go more. Kylie deal with so bananas and the elements deal before. That was absolutely here yet. That was crazy and when they were bought out people like wow okay we knew elements was good but wow. I do think that's going to be interesting for brands that are up for sale and bronze and moving around at the moment. There's lots of rumors. There's going to be a lot of change in the industry. In the next couple of years. I think some brands that on doing quite as well as once was. I think we're going to repeal the pressure. Yeah I think some of those mid tier brands. We're going to lose. I think we will end up somewhere with somewhere where we used to be fifteen years ago where we had drugstore and we had high end. Nia I think it will be the mid tier brands that suffer. Will I think either the mid tier what they'll do is they'll just go online. I think just selling line because they'll be like it's too expensive to be in stores. Maybe I think not. I think it'd be more more bronze during the area as well. Definitely direct to consumers not going anywhere. Yeah I think though DART consumer like I was reading an article about that specifically glossy but the worby model is what the yet in all how so many brands like away. Yeah and outdoor voices and these brands that you think because you saunter have very nuclear barrel direct but then. They're actually all really struggling because they maxed out the sales with people because it was really expensive staff convinced that we wanted because of how we consuming instagram at the time now the way people consume instagram is changing. Yeah Algorithm. Mr Aunt swayed by influences. As won't say where these brands were all born of influence marketing and they're all signed struggle in difficult times like the CEO of outdoor voices. Quit the founder. She had to resign from her own company because it was in such dire straits which I was really shocked about because I think about voices and I'm like oh I really want some of those one hundred dollars Yoga Pants. And Yeah actually. I've tried a bunch time. They looked terrible but I keep going back. What is wrong with me? I am I not doing right. It's my phone not why someone said that to me recently and it was so clever. Karma who it was I probably read it. I'm just GONNA steal it but it was when you and try close in the shop and they look bad you feel bad and it shouldn't be you that feels that it's the close your not auditioning for the close the closer auditioning for you yes. I've heard something similar. I think to me it's the closed optime. You look good not around yes and I was like. Oh my God. I've never thought I've always just been terrible in this dress. I was like no. That dress looks terrible on you and around like Oh my God. This is genius. Made me so happy so think about that with you. Make up some things too. I shot a man. No tire balloons. I shot it was like no. It's just what you'll call A. It didn't work for you as well as the products for its products job to work. Go with how you feel like. Yeah Yeah Yeah but it's going to be really interesting to see who makes it out of the next two years. I mean not. We don't know anyone specifically but I'm thinking that like two faced range not to face specifically they just bought out by a say lauder. They're doing fine but that very mid tier especially my indies or the smaller ones. They're going to be the ones that are at risk. I mean I think of someone like an attache to no no who obviously is selling two hundred dollars pallets yet how it has passed yes powder. She moved forward as a brand. I think as well with the whole thing that we've talked about foreign policy episodes people like people will go across the deep. Let people know the GPS coming now rather than being like. Oh we'll have to get back. 'cause there's nothing similar people that we know who wait six months. You'll get it. Yeah Yeah it's GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTING. Times company an interesting time which we'll talk about when we come back not figure out what did landscape will i. Are we interested in coming back and being like what has changed? Well we'll be living on the moon. We'll be on the main jet pack on my boss dog. It's going to be so easy for us to get to each other because we just get to each other. We'll tell the poll we find. I've been so stupid we should. I mean the sad news is highly of the week for a while. Oh God don't don't I is. I want to say like a special Ha. I just got regular old go. We can do it. We can do it. We can do it. He ready okay. I'm ready I. We came to do it with us. We took classic as well. The original didn't Go crazy smash out. What is your highlight of the week? So I think I mentioned this in a previous episode but it's officially Mahala of the we make revolution. Does collaboration with make parts Alexis Stone. It's all bright bold colors and they're all mass and tone also. It goes from like a bright red to it then slightly less intense reg like a car. Read like it's so so good Lindsey and I think if you're starting out or even if you make participates fully in the industry POPs don't trying to kiss Lindsey. He's trying to he's trying to stop. It's just so good. The price points like twenty five twenty six dollars. I think I bought an ULTA and off the quality it's battery it's richly pigmented and I felt like it such an essential piece of kit so loving that. That's a nice yours mine. This just feels right. There's just feels right is the. Do Lip glow in Rosewood. Oh yes same. When I can't wait till enterprise really nice it reminds me a lot of dinars afterglow. Which we lo. I Love Them. The Cheetah Shade which is the the movie Rosie Ferret the normal let play. I don't know because I thought you will right along the difference between this. I feel like there's less Ph shifting Zedong that Bright Pink. You know this is. This is the thing that I've always loved. I really wish genuinely generally wish they will bring out a clear one because I just love the texture. Yeah just sits on the lips. Oh beautifully around for such a long time. It doesn't just vanish bonds. Do I love the close by do for late? They wear off a little break because it's a thinner thin conscious. Yes Lipton Lipton Melody or lip. Gloss definitely has more like a walk. See Bomb Yeah. I wish I will bring out a clear I really really do. But this is such a your lips that better if you hate the original because it's too pink yes on the other options are the. Berry is very deep. The the bright pink is very bryant. Coral is very karl like all the colors are very very and this is just a your lips but better. Kulla in a really beautiful texture. So I was really happy. I waited for so long notice good because I was really disappointed with the ones they were out last year. That had blue metallic swirl in them yes I have thought and I it all. They did not wait frosted. That was my first fail. I would frosted lip glows late. Don't do it. Don't do frosted lip go unless you're doing eight hundred calls played. This is lovely and it just feels right to wrap on a on a deal. It's very appropriate. I should've just said anything. Brown to Brown and Brown I saw. Braun is Harry's highlight. Well thank you Lindsey being my work. Why it's been amazing. It's not good bye bye for now. It's goodbye phenomenon happens. It's believe you hung in a high. I get from my publisheh. We need a time out but yeah we say we've got tons of really exciting stuff going on and we think that will make you happy and obviously we wish we were making the all the time as well but it's been three years had to be tied up for a break. We've had a very good in not a very good in it. It's lovely friends maslow's AP pro. We had a good run run. And there's been fair. Amount OF PERCY. Pigs Ian go so many eggs media maniacs day capacity chickens lots of our history. Berge as pod. Apparently songs food to unwind this infatuation wine but moti the mine. I'd say often the cheaper than like binocular chicken about Rotisserie Yoga. And Very Don and you take the next day and a. Lotta tip for you. That made enchiladas with gray shredded it and then like really good shredded chicken. Slow thing because I did it with a Rotisserie had left on the rotisserie shredded genius in a Pan with a little bit of chicken stock and Taco seasons. He's stupid then took out the flames and made until ten minutes. Which is powered on gun? Store is like what to do with listen to what ten year budget. Yes yeah just made them. They were just stolen now because say goodbye. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA wrap it up. Thank you everyone as we said. The facebook group is still going to be that so facebook dot com slash it full coverage podcast then top post a beauty lovers. We'll be in there being beauty lovers love and beauty. That's like our jam change. We're just going to talk right every two weeks for awhile and yeah instagram. Still there so keep talking. We Wanna see your pictures and we'll obviously be on our personal against everywhere so out. Lindsey Hill makes up come. Say Hi say hi whistle around. We're still going to be absolutely desperate for beauty bounce. So don't stop talking to US UNWELL. Still. I mean you've got your Youtube Channel where you share sandwich. Bucci Your Instagram. Which we do your blog. I'm everywhere everything will be sharing my beauty stuff on my instagram. So obviously outlet actually explode like explosion of lip gloss we will continue to tax each other things neither US needs. We will continue today. Obviously he's out saying we not going anywhere. We're just not going to be doing this for a second was around but we want to say thank you without you guys. We would not have made it. Could not have made a million episodes. A million downloads eight episodes. I was like a million episodes. Yeah you guys have been amazing for just the way you guys have connected to each other and ultimately sliding intoi. Dm people have slid into odium. I'm the health but we. We made some lovely friends and we have daily while we're away but we'll we'll keep around extinct Cha Cha Cha worry about together. What would I only know? Maybe we'll have some like spontaneous spontaneous and something might pop up. You never know you never know. I think that feels like a good good player like literally. If you're like. I just finished a therapy session. Where I'm like. Look basically Lindsey. You never know you can never rely on anything. Nothing is going to say. They don't know what the future holds. And you'd be good with that happened to me is is and good things. Be Open to let good things in. That's it may come and see me on. Got To make a toast happening in at the end of July in the UK. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 351-Virtual Happy Hour-Jon Lambert of Hairy Cow Brewing
"Law. Dan. Though. Even been Yankee pump studios. Now, the Yankee craft beer up coast. Auctioneer the pied being pulled. Big Day. Out. Dr Jay, again. Again. Jacket contract. You are paying for that. That Beta. Welcome to the Brit. Yankee pump studios where in for another virtual happy out. Very happy to say today the way heading down the Rock River. So fire on Illinois and we're going to be meeting up with the BRA at the Hairy Cow Brewery and restaurant I think it's actually officially the Harry cow bird but we'll come to him in just a second with me I'm glad to say today even though he has been back in his brewery brewing but as tweaked, his back again is Mr Kim? Mullen? From van Bruin Hey Ken how're you doing? All right so Here no you not doing. All right yet blahdy hosted on you. It's only one side. So four with both sides. So I'm happy for that. How about that? Okay. Fifty percent pain is better than one hundred percent pay. And I see you you working the skullcap do rag thing they're? Just. Trying to all of the hair looks like this though this keeps it came in and I don't mind calendar Yeah I got mine as well. I'm do the little ponytail. Anyway today I'm very happy to say that we do have a man who has very respectable hairiness and why not because he is a Bra. Very, pleased to introduce Mr John Lambert who is sitting in the burry at the Harry Cow. Brewery. In Byron Illinois. Hello. John How are you? Doing Great Bill thanks for me. Appreciate it. Well, thank you very much John Because I. Know It's been a bit of an uphill climb to get you to come on ash show. You've been a busy man. It's a busy time. Turns out beer pizzas ocular. Yeah. And and we'll get into how you guys have survive through the lockdown on the covid very shortly. But of course, it wouldn't be the Britain. Craft Beer. Poe casts slash video casts where we are. Now we didn't have beer, and of course, we have sobbed of your here the hairy cow brewing which has been put in cans and I'm going to crack open. The One I want you to tell the story of its their cream ale which I know not many breweries do a cream ale these days it's getting a little bit more popular, Oh look at that can has it as well. Thank goodness. We are in Sync Ken. So, let's crack it open together. I'm gonNA pull this and. It's coming out a delicious Kala which I think a cream ale really pays attention to a nice Pale yellow color and if we off got mine in my my little video down here. Close up look at that beautiful. Now, Ken you a cream Ale as well. All you have done a creamer in the past, right? Yeah that beer used to. Popular biggest seller down at limestone was a cream ale. I was electric art goal they called it. Like I, remember it well. And I've tasted this and it has a delicious. BREDON EST to it. I don't know if that's the cream ale profile I really liked this. So John. US about the name and tell us about the be a because turtle tree is quite. something. You need to know about when you go down to Harry Cow. Right Yeah. So the name. Most revered were kind of organic. They just kind of happened like you don't like to just a let's call that. Three sheets or whatever you know. There should be a story behind hopefully. So yeah the the cream Ale came about. I wanted to beer that would be very approachable. I feel like we're in the business of educating people who may be drinking very light beers. Berry flavorful of plus fears. So the cream ale is just a A. A light offering that's that's very approachable for those people who are a normal lakers. But still has flavor so anyway, but the name. So we are on the on the on the Rock River on the banks of the Rockford Illinois, and so we have a some trees out out out back of our brewery in the on the deck, and there is a tree that has three little turtles sitting on if you look at just just a certain way and they look like fertile. So we name that turtle tree and then early on we decided will what better name for our? Most popular beer that turtle tree. And I. Have had the pleasure of sitting on your balcony facing the Rock River. And it wasn't until you came out and taught to me. That I realized what what the story was. So we put a picture up for that. So hopefully, people seeing that now. What you say this is one of your most popular. Beers. It is you know I'm in the in the craft beer business I've been ruined for many many years. I didn't come from another brewery I came from the homebrew background and so. typically Edward says, your lightest offering is going to be your most popular. So those people who aren't big drinkers if they're gonNA drink a beer, their propaganda drake, your lightest fear and. Those people who are light Miller like breakers in this is closest thing they're going to have to that. So you, you indicate that your background is not necessarily embroidering you a home brewing which yes. That you also something else for a living I, did I had to make a living while I was. Working at my hobby. So I actually does the. Field for nearly twenty years. I worked I started off as A. Help Desk. At a bank and then kind of slowly made myself through the ranks and become came a network engineer. For the bank and then That that never they went under and so I ended up working for my local church was a pretty good size church and so with churches it director for thirteen years. So you. Have always been in the Byron. Area. Actually, I live in Rockford Illinois which is about. Twenty. Minutes north of. Of Byron and survivor pretty small community. We've got a nuclear plant near and a ton of smaller communities fire about thirty, eight, hundred people. And ROCKFORD's about one hundred, fifty thousand people so. Far this story to is like how and why we ended up in. Byran. So I understand from a recent news article that potentially in the next couple of years exelon, which is I guess the Calm Ed Company that controls. Nuclear power plants and all the things. Possibly, going to be closing down that plant. How do you think that might change the face of? Byron. I think it will probably change it quite a bit. I mean that plan employees probably between seven and nine hundred people. And so like I said irons. Occupation is like thirty eight hundred here. But there's tons of smaller communities all around. So I would imagine it would be pretty impactful. I hope is that you know we this December will be will be here for two years and so we have a pretty good following. People from Rockford from all surrounding areas so Even Chicago turns out the currently. We're only an hour, an hour and fifteen or twenty minutes out from West Chicago where the Britain Yankee Studios aw and I think fairly close by is. Hotline, which is in Aurora right Ken was it North Aurora I never can tell? We're in a row during Aurora. Okay. So it's just a little bit extra just jump on that. tolls it. Go look at that. So. What do you think of turtle tree. While this is it's delicious. It's what it's supposed to be at sub. It's a light. American Ale It's carved pretty heavily, which is what they're supposed to be. When I opened it board it, you could hear fizzing like soda pop the bubbles. You know in indicative of the Higher Carbonation, but these are supposed to be carved high. They're supposed to be really vite refreshing in No, they're described as a lot more beer. I get a little. Little floral notes from the hops dislike when I drink it I don't really smell the. But not to me it seemed right. Honest. Delicious Lights Clean. A job. When Ken said, it was a law Moa Bay I didn't see you go. Oh, you Kinda went. Yeah. Because from my opinion Aloma beer is a beer that has flavor. But you can. Put it down pretty quickly. Yeah absolutely in fact, that's such kind of tell people it is it's a lawn mower beer it's it's crushable. So I'm a super lightweight when it comes to all things, uppers, downers I guess but. I love having a beer that I can have a couple two or three and still. You know speak fairly intelligently. Yeah. So yeah, we tell people this is a lot more beer. It's kind of a gateway it veered into some Oh. Hey, crappier doesn't have to be real heavy and dark skin, and so we start people there and hopefully educate them and who knows maybe they're an amber next week her. Arts and down the path and. You just move on. PA's. Exactly. Imagine you have A. Population out there to to educate to. You know everybody learns everything on the Internet now but now having a brewery in town, I would imagine you're going to encounter a lot of people. That are GONNA come in and ask for a what is it out there as Busch? Or Miller what's the big in time? So, this is this is a great option to try and move them onto your product in. Start educating them about small small batch beer. And it for sure are if you look at the numbers, it's our number one number one seller for sure this and then our Koelsch, which would be our other. Colored light alcohol option. Those you are are neck and neck turtle trees is number one for sure. So you started canning these. When because you know this is obviously. Not the official cans that you can sat on distribute right you. Yoni. Seldom in the in the burry. Yeah. Not Actually it's a result of coconut. So So. All burris most reasonably area has been super helpful to us to me and so When when the got the order restaurants and breweries got to shut down in March We we had a small little cannon machine oct machine six ounce, and we always had issues with it. So another hurry in Rockford jury street actually absolute hating me we. Rent, a canning line periodically with the truck comes they they come into the bereaved setup they basically everything for you used to have to have beer cold and ready, and they asked us would you be interested in in canning some beer as a way to generate revenue during this time where we can't generate any revenue because we were open? So so we hall. We haul nine cakes down to Rockford and. And we piggy-bank with them off this. This is the very first time we've ever. Actually canned are beer it an actual candy machine I you say you into Rockford. was at the prairie all the pig minds early street brewery. Okay. They've been super helpful to me personally and two A as a brewery helping us in. Is You know well We have We got three Biz of yours to try in this session. So we're going to take a quick break. Now we'll come back. We'll crack open the second beer, and then we'll talk about what the hell is a Harry Cow. All right sounds good. Back from natural break. In the meantime we have pulled out of the fridge, the next year that we're going to try which. I think he's pulling my plunk career because he calls it. The LS blahdy Alles, he's a sinking in a bloody Al. Mate Or. Search to be good for an Englishman. This is your Hellas slogger right John Iraq. Okay. So I'm GonNa Crack Missile Poppy. And we'll see what happens. So you've got one to right can. Yeah it's. Always going off camera. How's it going to say I'M GONNA? So tell us a story of Your Bloody Alice Laga which I know you've used you know that's a that's a kind of got to come up with the name. So that's good. But one of the in terms of the brewing style, what are you? got. Munich. Tell us here and. I never was a huge logger fan I really wasn't until. I started having some loggers that were just amazing. visited a brewery in Chicago Call called Ducktail Yup. and. Their tour and the as rural was so impressed by the facility, the Asians illegal loggers that traditional way super super press with the whole place and so i. Of got inspired, be more loggers, and so this is a unocal was kind of a spring. Spring Beer that the I wanted to do. So where the idea came from on, it'd be more loggers and make him clean and as best I can. And so. It was kind of right right in the season there when we're coming into sprinting and. Kill US and did it did it sell well because I know there are a variety of different finishes on Hellas Llagas and I've never been able to understand what the correct finishes as I taste your bid here I'm getting a very crisp clean, not quite so sweet finish. Yeah so so So The that the health like that, and then the next year we were going to do with the Mayakoba with. A bigger version of that or multi higher alcohol that buddy else at sold really really really well. It's it's a light beer. That's again you can drink two or three of them. Still still function and tons of flavor and had a great aroma I think. Yes I would agree a can have you managed to pull IOS out I. Know you going back and forth trying to fat glass? There's can was so so full and so carved. As soon as I opened it get came out all over. So I was cleaning up. Is Your Wife Oh, that's that's a good Kala alight the look of that you got the right gloss for it. And? It's nice. It's got a slight. Just a little bit of grayness which I think is appropriate. Just. The paint a hint of sulphur narrow. The the hint again that's appropriate this. Right on for me. So can I ask you question then? I've heard that a couple of times from you brewing guys a hint of Sofa that sounds bad to the average person, but it's not really is it. I'll sulphur usually. Shows up in Beers, die metal, sulfide, or DNS. and. If there's a lot of it, you'll smell like cooked learn cooked cabbage. But it happens when you don't get a real vigorous oil or vigorous. Reputation. So you get it with lagers lot because you're slow in the east down with the temperature, the fermentation. So loggers, you tend to end up with a little bit of sulfur in it. You can scrub it bubble in co two through in Alaska one of the players you can actually get out there like a said, some some styles it's appropriate just to have a bit of a bit of it. And this is one of them. Grew. So John. What the hell is a hairy cow and how come you came while you didn't come to name because you have an owner right todd. The cluster dot mcallister. So he used to be in law enforcement in Byron Right. So tell us the story. Okay. So. So. We said, well, let's let's see what we can do. So we. started a kickstarter to raise the money. So we raised thirty thousand dollars, thirty days, and that kind of got the ball rolling on some plans. But wow him about. His area cows, e- E E through the name out there. Rear Harry Ruling Company and it just. Seemed the vet. So, we started working on I. I started on my recipes and built a ten gallon system in my basement electric I grew. Year, round, rain, or shine. So. That's how the name came about. Harry POW. I had a friend that had. Also. WORKED FOR THE CHURCH ADMITTED CHURCH YEARS YEARS AGO WE. In. France for so long we can remember how we actually met. We met through church. Todd lived in Byron but he was a a rock police officer and ended up retiring after. Twenty, five years and. He had forty two acres here in Byron and had kind of started collecting different yet some chickens for for farm fresh eggs at pigs he would process for some both or for different things, and then the end up getting some. Scottish islands which are just. They're I think they're red for their They're not dirty towels they're bred for their meat. But they're disappearing unique, very Say. Dasa but they're pretty calm on cows they just. They just look beautiful So he started off with a bowl and a couple of females, and then having some cats and So he was of went from being a an officer to armor I guess. So He. So, we always enjoyed beer. We would go to different reason do tours and tastings, and we'd just appreciated you know a beer so. I don't know he was around one day and said, Hey, I. Wonder you know maybe start a taproom so he called me in January twenty six say s me what I thought. It would take open taproom and. I told them well, a lot of money. Said any if you ever decide to do something with your beer which I think you should let me know and I'll help you out with some marketing entered some. Business planners or logo. So we contact him and turns out he was working for. He's a consultant of you had a big job for craft that he was working on. So he he said, Hey I've got this young guy I think you know might be really good for you as far as developing the logo on on my dog gray skies. Put me off under this young guy does know anything but turns out e after a couple ended up with this this logo, they hurry found logo when it was. Spun on Yeah it's a really excellent blending of a hot and the Harry. Cow. And that actually. made us by a couple of t shirts when we came out to your place, my wife really liked it as well. So. Look if you notice this, but if you look at knows in in the logo up the logo, look at the knows Alex real similar to the cooling tower from a nuclear power plant. Holy. Cow, holy cow your. Cow. There you go. Yeah and actually, and if you go out to Byron, you are going to see. One of the lost two nuclear power plants that's operating in Illinois. You'll see it on the horizon as you drive out there. But. Don't worry folks. You won't get two heads. And I have to say that one of the attractions was the fact that you advertise autism pizzas. Which I have to say are really good and they're rarely. Appropriately sized for. Two people or one person if you're a real pig and I have to tell you your. Cheese. COEDS. Are Spot on they are they are battered just like a piece of Fried Fish in England movie and that just absolutely superb but very salty, which means you have to drink more of the. Business Plan I don't know. Yeah I know could be. While John I. GotTa Tell Ya Breweries have. had a very similar START I got into brewing as homework. Grew into a career and the people that own hop. Fine Duggan. Jan Eisley I I know them through church. Okay. So that a couple a church relationships, it's fun breweries here in Illinois that sat as pretty cool. It is pretty cool eight. You also mentioned you listen there you mentioned your number system and it made me. I always ask about the breweries here. So I can see behind you but I wonder if you could tell us about the size manufacturer journal anything else about. This is eight and a half barrel system from Alpha, Brewing Operations Lincoln Nebraska. So I, you know when you start. Looking at brewing equipment, there is a gazillion providers in all people who do very very. High End Systems and those that are maybe not so great. So that was a daunting task trying to select number one what side system you're going to go with but like. We are going to go with right. So long story short we ended up with Alpha brewing operations Because my sister who worked at Rockford University in Rockford new some guy and said, hey, you should contact this guy he makes brewing equipment. So I'm this guy makes one barrel systems garage I'm really not interested but. McCall and It turns out. Great Company and they're they're providing ruin systems at Santa Breweries. Well, I'd like to come back and find out exactly what your approach is your philosophy to brewing, and what you might be wanting to do in the future because I understand todd really likes hours but you don't do. Well. We, have since you've been here. So Oh okay. We'll find out more about that. Right after this quick Brighton. A new. in the meantime. Mr Ken Has opened his beer, but we've been having a slight off Mike. Oh. He's going to open a gallery. Alive Luckily Got Mine to open here. So I can actually get mine open. So this is at the other end of the spectrum from the loggers and the cream ales. This is a Russian imperial stout coming in at eleven percent and it has a six six twenty so we'll look June dates on it. John Wall. I open this one. Tell us a little bit about this and how the hell do you pronounce the name? Yeah. So I guess let's let's conquer the name I. So it's slash. So. slosh up is a a Scottish. Reading not greeting, but it's like good health or here's to your health. So we say cheers salute or come by or. all that Scottish it's like. Cheers it's good. Help sponsor. The second word is M. and no. Sorry M. H. A. T. H.. M. Age. Now I would say, Mahathir but you said what? Like va so loss launch and You know this is the reason that the British and the Scott don't get. Anyway we pulled out delicious Russian imperial stoute's. Will tell us the story of this because this is a heavy hitter for the evening. As I say I had in my big thown femme brewery sniff, which is not that close to you but it's further down the Illinois than we are. Sure well, I guess I probably never would've rude a Russian imperial stout because I'm such a lightweight in it's such a heavy heavy dark beer. Todd loves the High Alcohol Beers and so he he said Hey I'd really like to have a Russian so. So. Yeah. I went to task. I'm trying to find a recipe in in worked on it for a year. So but yeah, this is one that like. I'll have in the dead of winter to Kinda. have ten out to that, and at least for me like I need to be seated for an hour or two. That's a big one. Ken You're very familiar with Russian imperial stout because you may one. The across. This is very different GIO crusher. Give us your opinion. The questions a little more. A little sweeter a little more full bodied this one is. It's a it's like a medium full-body. So fermented while I mean, it's it's an IT looks beautiful to you can't really throw it but at the corners you the that's pretty clear. What I get most out of this bitterness but not like It's like a Baker's chocolate. which is coming from the mall. That's that would say that's my lingering on this and. When was this beer brewed this in? May So That that version cameras dated what six six twenty said. Mess Oh Ron can hang on. Six. Six six so. That was probably that was probably that was brewed in. August twenty, nine team. So it's already got a year on. Yeah, I think I think. I try to give this beer dot three months before we start serving. So it's it's a pain in the ass beard Abreu to be honest that means such a huge grain bill and then you're you're a is is. Very little and when we started doing too as we might end up with maybe maybe five girls and mentor, and then I'll move that over to serving tank. That's what re carbonate. But even before we move it over all, we've been getting some whiskey barrels from a local distillery called whiskey acres. Yeah. We. We've been getting twenty five gallon barrels from them. So what I've been doing is filling to twenty. Barrels. And then letting that beard sit in the barrels for a period of time, and then whatever's left the for matter matter move that to serving tank. Carbonated. Off Right away and it just put it away and let it sit in the Cape for hopefully. A month or two. I like to let it sit for three months from from the. Minimum before we. Start serving. So I. I would say that in comparison and I hate to compare beers but that's what we're here for. This is a very. SIPPLE, I wouldn't say pineapple. But. It's a very simple Russian imperial stout. Now, what you said about the bittersweet Jonquet that is spot on this is absolutely a deliciously smooth. Bittersweet chocolate Russian imperial stout I think it's easier. Drink can than most Russian imperial stout because it is fermented while at the little bit lighter body than than a lot of what you see out there and and you didn't put lactose in it. No lack of snow. Okay. So we've hit the lactose thing. So couple of questions number one, are you doing any lactose hazy IPA's and number two how are you doing a barrel program with this similar to this? US The. First question. No I would I would be. A lactose as the IP A I'm not a not really got. On the bandwagon doing hazy IPA's we have a couple of IPA's and they are. For the most part easy I would say but we don't go through here. You know I do some clarifying a little bit but but. I would I. would entertain the thought of doing as EPA with with some lactose Mike. My current favorite beer right now is by southern southern tier. They have a milkshake va that has lactose F. it's just so smooth and. Yeah. So that was action. What was the second? What about? Barrel Program. Gotcha. So I had never barely aged anything in my life when I at home when I was earning this recipe with the Russian I, got some medium oak of would cubes think from? Amazon. And I did a an oak version of their that was pretty good but We developed a relationship with that local distillery like I said Whiskey acres. And And got a couple of barrels from them, and we started putting the beer in the barrels that was the sort of our barrel program which I knew nothing about. And, still, very little about but but I'm learning the first version of barrel beer barrel Russian wheat. We had the barrel for three months. At that. We got that big oak woody urban. Urban character, but it wasn't real smooth people seem to love it but. It just wasn't real smooth and so next batch we did I just kicked off that and. This is probably thanks to cope to that version of Russian Imperial Stout was eleven point seven percent and that set in the barrels for about nine months. and. So the result was just a much smoother, a beer I think the would Tannin's Kinda at a chance to mellow out you got. Just a smoother, a smoother beer. So actually I've got that in cakes that I kicked off last Friday and I've been forced carbon-emitting it for a week now. So it's quite ready not quite carbonated yet, but I would say by next weekend, we might be serving that that Russian and then that's an interesting kissel that beer is going to be called S- launch more. Pronounce. Maybe. Yeah. or Russian Imperial Stout base fear and launch more is the bourbon barrel aged version of that beer. Would you. Canning bottling that. We will we will possibly can that in our thirty two outs crowder's but because we don't was tribute right now if we do feel the thirty, two ounce crawlers that we have. At retail like you're sitting Kebab so were. At, beers getting about about a dollar, an ounce that beer. So possibly, we won't be filling sixteen ounce cans like what you have in front of you probably for a little while again, just because we're open again, we're not set up to ruin volumes in. Sixteen. Ounce, years. So you also mentioned sours that you're headed into because taught light Saleh's. And he never used to. Eat. Develop a taste for the salaries at some point. My wife loves them but I just I never had really I can appreciate what they are just didn't develop days for, but it'd been bugging me for probably six months or maybe even a little better. What's our and that's another thing I have never never attempted or or did saw. Out of intimidated a little bit especially brewing out on on a bigger system like this you know but. So my first approach was I just I did a berliner bites, which is a European sour of very low alcohol. It'll sour beer and so. So we have on tap now, really have a name for us is the Berliner bias and This beer is a proof of concept number one can I make a Kevin? Sour. And have. A true to style beer the number two, is it going to be received global people. I? Drink. And if those two are true which. I've been able to brew it. Well, I think and then if it if it's received well and Might. Do are a higher alcohol kettle sour maybe fruited version a so. We were we were drink in a way you'll be as, but you were drinking a little lighter I think it had a peach in it. What was it? Also, story on that one. So. So we wanted to do a couple summer beers that. So we at now, we'd be to through years. One is once called the respirator tar. A raspberry infused a light beer at the other one is a is a peach call the peach here a preach tree. So, so that has. I think. About, two hundred, fifty EC pounds of a of a puree but in it into the ferment patient. About three days. After it kicks off and such a little heart but rudy. Oatley well-balanced which it is. So you guys have managed to survive covid and lockdown. You're still. Oversee serving your pizza's on your back and also a limited capacity in your inside restaurant. Anything that people need to come out therefore given the season of the October fest. Yeah so so we're still in summer here but fall it's quickly quickly approaching. So, like most years you know things am up in like Oh holy crap in we we need to start getting our October fest out there and then. We. It's up canal and people seem to either love or hate beer but. Now is not a fan of the Pumpkin beer. I'm no fan of the Pumpkin beer but I won't say tell me how you make the Pumpkin, beer? Yeah. So it's it's really the recipe is just a really solid amber recipe. It's it's next to the Russian. It's probably the. First. Or maybe second most aim they asked Beard Abreu. Talk About one hundred and fifty pounds of just pure said up -ken periodical into the Mash. and. So it's just a huge sticky mess with pounds and pounds of pounds of rice holes so we can defend to run off. and. Then still swith you know your typical all spices in in the kettle and then again in the matter. And people. Love it those who like Pumpkin hills seem to Is Love and it's about six percent beer. The pumpkin spice is pretty well-balanced. You're not getting clobbered over the head, but yet it's it's there so. That is one of those beers that and. There's nobody in the middle on that. Either love them. Absolutely. Thank, you're a bad moore because you decided to make. I make a smoked pumpkin board and it's a bitch to make and it's like. There's so much extra work in doing it, and then the people that hate pumpkin beer come out and saying your act brewer to I'm in. Now I've. Calmly. Your pumpkin beer because you don't put too many spices in it and he smote. I made a i. made a pilot batch, a pumpkin spice Latte Abeer. And sold it out in like a week. Okay. When business. Very. Traditional. Okay. So John Thank you so much for joining us today really appreciated sorry to told couldn't be there but you know what you know they. They got a the East cowes to attend to exactly. They got to be doing a lot of crap out. He's going to be cleaning out a crap from the cows. So I'm. GonNa Raise My Sean. Var. Although, is it Var- by? 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BACK CATALOGUE: "They Don't Teach You This At Law School."
"Hi james here from just cases while melissa and i working on a brand new episode for you. We want to share one episode from the cases back catalogue. This one is one of the i just cases episodes that we ever recorded and it's still one of our favorites. We've heard from a lot of listeners saying that it's one of your favorites to before we jump into it thanks to everyone who has filled in the cases one question save i it's still open for a few more days and by entering it you go into the draw to win a fifty dollars amazon amazon gift card. Thanks to everyone who's left a nas review on apple podcasts and of course we do love pasta writing say if you haven't subscribed yet or reviewed or given a writing go ahead it pushes just cases up the charts and gets us in front of more people said that we can keep on making more great episodes. It's for you so now to the show. This episode is called. They don't teach you this at law school. It sent shockwaves vibes through the community that somebody might be charged and found guilty of manslaughter in these circumstances from monash law school cool. This is just cases the back story to the biggest court cases you've never heard of. I can't look these case. It's not written up. It's not imprinted anywhere it literally but it's imprinted on the minds and memories of people who inject drugs in australia on just cases we explore cases that have changed the way <hes> we live our lives and the stories of those caught in the crossfire. It's not ninety six on the streets of kabir meta in in sydney's west. It's late at night and two young men will cross paths for the first time when the sun rises the following morning. One of these men molefi found dead on the straight. What exactly went down that night is still not entirely clear and the stories of these remain has gone pretty much untold but my guest today says that what happened as a result after this case is unprecedented in australian law and it's had a ripple effect. That's continue to resonate to this day c. h. Law at monash law school and she's felt the impact of the story of power and matthew sutton in the decades since that tragic not in sydney so take us to that not in june nineteen ninety-six. What do we know about what happened. Open yeah well. We know something's melissa but we don't know everything so it's a fascinating story that the case that i'm interested in began on the night of the eighteenth of june in nineteen ninety-six where twenty one year old man named matthew something mitt another man called powell on the streets of cabra motto which is a suburb of sydney as many of our listeners will nari and the two men didn't know each other before that meeting what we know is that mr sutton told mister cow that he had some heroin winning bought some heroin copper metal and at that time actually campamento was one of the largest <hes> street drug markets in the country so so something told cao that he had bought some heroine and that he wanted to inject it but importantly he didn't have a needle and syringe to us and so he approached cow and asked him if he could help and cow <hes> as it turned out said that he could he had a needle and syringe. She had one back at his house. He actually lived in a boarding house. I'm in a suburb called canley vale which she's just rodney copper metal and sorry they struck a bit of a deal in that cao said to something if you can give me a lift back to my boarding house i will give you a clean needle so that's what happened. It's not entirely clear what what happened next and there's a couple of things that we know and most importantly what we do know is that matthew sutton at some stage over the next next little while maybe at around midnight did inject himself with heroin using a nato that cao had given to him. It's unclear where that happened. Whether he injected himself inside <hes> cows house or outside on the street we certainly said all i did was give him a needle and that was the end of it and he went on his way. Okay but what we do know. Is that the next morning so the morning of the nineteenth of june nineteen ninety-six sutton was found dead in the straight right nick house sporting houses about eight o'clock in the morning and sutton was sadly one of more than two hundred people who had died of a drug overdose in new south wales just in that year lauren it was in the midst of a kind of epidemic top situation in the mid nineties yeah it was there was some sort of spy series of heroin doses or drifting acting but particularly heroin overdoses across australia at that time and i think i think there were two hundred twenty six heroin related this just in new south wales so sadly adly matthew sutton was one of them and <hes> and he's a person who most of l. listen will never have heard about but for reasons. I'm going to explain them. A lot of people out there. They're in the community do know about for reasons come to so carol was charged with manslaughter of sutton. That's quite unusual. In this kind of fact situation isn't yeah it is it was it was sort of unprecedented that something like this happen in it has had a series of ripple effects that continue to resonate until this day sorry cow was <music> technically charged with having what we call the low he feloniously slough matthews on. Let's judge very old fashioned term. It is a very old fashioned tab is and he was charged with with something that we call unlawful and dangerous act manslaughter and the case then proceeded in front of the jury in the district court of new south wales and sorry essentially unlawful and dangerous act manslaughter is kinda complicated charge what it requires is proof that somebody had engaged in an unlawful act of some kind and that act was dangerous and that the dangerous accident caused the death so explain to me how that kind of charge kind to be chosen for this kind of act. What what do we know about what happened. It's it's a big complicated so take you through it and the starting point is that there's a there's a lowering new south wales which is called the drug misuse and trafficking act and there's a section shen in that section twelve that says and just read it to you that a person who administers or attempts to administer a drug to himself or herself is guilty offense and this is the offensive what we often refer to as shorthand of the offensive self administration in other words it's illegal to inject yourself with drugs for instance and so in that sense sudden committed an unlawful act because he injected himself with drugs but no one would prosecuted because he's not exactly so section section nineteen of that same act says that a person who aids abets counsels procures solicits or incites the commission of an offence under this division is guilty of an offence and this is what cow <hes> was was accused of in other words what how did that was wrong or unlawful lawful was that he aided and abetted sutton's self administration by giving him the needle that sutton used to inject himself with drugs and and that was the unlawful and dangerous act if you like that got cow charged with this offense and saw him before jury now you mentioned that this is an unusual case. Why is an unusual case well. There's a few reasons one is that first of all it was unheard of for person to be charged with unlawful and dangerous act manslaughter in these circumstances instances where what had happened was the cow had mealy given somebody else a clean needle and syringe to us and say merely the now that <hes> it might depend on your perspective whether there was something really egregious or immoral about that but as i'll explain in a in a wall that's actually quite a common practice among people who inject drugs and it's important and i'll come back to it <hes> it's also an unusual case in the sense that it's not a reported decision so what i mean by that is that as you well well knowing when we studied law rotate students about law <hes> ask students can go to the law library and flick through any number of volumes of of books that have important decisions like the mabo case and others of the high court whether the reasons that a decision made a sit out and you can read them and study them. This was a case that preceded in front of jury so there are no written reasons for decision and therefore i can't look these case it's not it's is not written up it sort of has no precedent that's right and no it's not imprinted anywhere literally but it's been imprinted on the minds and memories of people from calcutta in particular <hes> also from the vietnamese community of which mr cow was hot and more broadly people who inject drugs in australia people full who work in my sector do drug research or drug policy or drug law and people who use drugs a very familiar with this case because it's sent shockwaves through the community that somebody might be charged and found guilty of manslaughter in these circumstances for something that many people thought was quite innocuous. Listen merely giving somebody a needle and sending them on their way. So how do we come to know about this case if it hasn't been written up in the normal former law reports of that night yeah so good question. Actually a couple of people wrote about it <hes> several years ago. I'm one of them. I'm very grateful to his research. A call julian schimmel <music> but i often go to academic conferences drug policy drug low conferences and people still talk about this case so at least on people's minds for a range of reasons but one of them is because the research that julian did many years ago and one of the things that julian did is he managed to get the type of the trial and he transcripted himself and he helpfully flee shared it with me and some of my colleagues and the case was heard by somebody called acting judge ford and in his charge to the jury acting eighteen judge ford actually signaled that this was a very unusual in houston case. I'll just tell you what i'm acting. Judge ford said he said this is the first case that i've ever ever encountered where a person who was present at the time of an injection and who supplies a needle has been regarded as somebody who is a party to a participant participant in the crime in a sense it may well be that this is a test case and that's kind of interesting because as a broken kind of boundary you by having a manslaughter charge for this kind of factor tuition it. He's a bit of an unusual case and yet if it was a test case we would have expected to see it have more emphasis bain repeated in other cases that have come since thin and yet that hasn't actually happened. Yeah that's right it. It has an it's puzzling to me as is to why that might possibly because it's just confined to its own special unusual facts in a with a jury jury were persuaded but cao was guilty in these very particular one off situation although it's not such a one off because it must actually yep and quite a bit where other people with clean natal's it does it's a very common practice <hes> look there's been a bit of speculation as to why this case model of even being wrought in the first place and also why the jury did convict in this case certainly on our some people have taken the view that they might have been a racial element to it that mr cow was a vietnamese descent in kabul mata which as i said had a lodge street market of drug dealing and drug use is a long and very complicated history in relation to drug policy and papal indochinese over yet known as descent so some people. I think felt that might have been targeted in order to send a message to that particular community would punishment was imposed for finding his punishment was fairly lenient in a sense he wasn't sent to jail he received three good behaviour bond and as a city city you know sense what was perhaps most important was that symbolically that sentence in that conviction really resonated with people in that community who had this long history of <hes> sharing needles and clean needles and syringes with one another for reasons that tom will come to you you're listening to just cases with melissa casten and cassia and and cates telling us the little known story of matthew sutton and caught pow so given there's no written judgment for us to work off the transcript of a a against the judges statements the can you answer something for me and that is what do you think this judgment missed or didn't say just what it's i. I think that's a great question because there's something at the heart of it actually that it misses which i think is what makes the case to me birth so interesting and so how important and also i think wrong so the statute law in this case. We're dealing with those sections. I mentioned earlier from the he south wells legislation. They don't ask us to consider the motivations of a person in mr cal's positions. It doesn't have to pay the union tended to harm someone when negligent as to harm caused close to someone nowadays just do it. That's right the question. Simply did cow gives sutton a needle if he's fallen foul of of that section of the act but the thing that's lost in the case is that there are a range of reasons why people in cows position often give clean needles and syringes just to other people including strangers middle people that they know and <hes> it's often because it has something to do with preventing harm <hes> that's actually a caring being in benevolent at and it's not because when you supply a drug user with klay nato you're minimizing the harm they might experience liking of the drugs exactly so dr. Maybe we'll if i can just take you on a side trip a little bit for a little while and just tell you a little bit about some of those homes because they're actually at the the heart of the case as i think about it anyway so one of the things that we need to know is that many people who inject drugs live with what we call blood-borne viruses the things like h._i._v. and hepatitis c. so viruses that had transmitted through blood and us through nato and us through needle sharing usually really sorry for example. If a person who inject drugs if i were injecting drugs and i shared my needle with you and i had h._i._v. or hepatitis hard to say you may acquire that <hes> three using mine adl and what we know is that a lot of people in australia who inject drugs douching do share needles and there were very high rights of blood moon viruses mainly hepatitis a. rod and that goes to i guess what people talk about having safe injecting rooms claiborne who are gonna gonna use drugs have the opportunity to have clean equipment and healthcare nearby and needed exactly because they are going to do it anyway. Exactly so the figures a quiet alarming actually quite important so around two hundred and thirty thousand australians live with hepatitis c. in the moment and about ten thousand thousand new infections occur every and ninety percent of them are among people who inject drugs because the sharing of needles so it's a very major public health issue <hes> and sorry what was missed or what was not able to be sort of explored in cows case was that depending on your perspective he he either engaged in an unlawful and dangerous and that helped precipitate matthews sutton's death or he was engaged in a very a caring and compassionate act for somebody else he knew who needed access to a clean needle and syringe and we know that from research that this is a very common practice among people who inject drugs not just in australia but all over the world and <hes> there's been some research done in new south wales that suggests that about half of people who you inject drugs collect clean needles and syringes for friends or family for they might or even strangers lying <hes> can something where and pass them onto other people who need them for exactly this reason currency in that environment yes if that's the case then this gap between the way the law's actually structured and written down and the lived experience of the people at the lower is going to apply to this disconnect there absolutely end this practice that i've been describing where people will acquire clean needles and syringes possum onto other people they know is a practice called peer distribution because peers france distribution talk to one another conference usa. Yes strangest family members. I think it's quite common amongst people who have members in their family who inject drugs parents for example who will make sure that if their children are using drugs that going to do what they must at least get <hes> a clean needle and syringe to do it and that practice of <hes> p distribution is itself also illegal in most parts of australia. Sorry i mention mention some sections of that legislation in new south wales earlier but in addition to those sections the section in new south wales legislation and also in most states and territories that make this particular practice of passing on clean needles and syringes to other people also unlawful and that that legislation's relations based on the books for decades in australia's doing forced as a matter of practice <hes> not so much. I don't think i'm certainly not aware of of any recent prosecutions secretions but again it's the sort of thing that lingers in people's conscious hunched business. Sorry we have this very unusual situation where it's unlawful to distribute needles to other people <hes> <hes> despite that people do it and that's very common but there are certainly a sector of the population relation who are fearful of either being caught in possession of clean needles and syringes all being caught passing them on people and this is where the importance of cows case kayce comes back in because people are actually that cow was prosecuted. People who inject drugs that community of people is aware of that case. It's now nearly nearly twenty years old. It's not report written down anywhere as i said but it's lingered on in people's memories and i think in that sense it axes a very important <hes> i think troubling deterrent to a commonplace practice and then people engaging then he's actually fly told to help a deterrent to a health practice drug practice exactly and i think also too i mean i've done a lot of research over number of us about <hes> drug lords drug policy and and these are often very emotional issues. People often respond very emotionally to to drug use. I'm of course we mustn't forget in this case. We have a young man matthew sutton who was dead and in that not since it's often i i think i understand the response of a jury who might feel that somebody needs to be blamed or held to account for that death but i think in my mind mind cow was not the person who should have been held to account in fact. He's motivations and his actions were probably very benevolent and i think sadly that was lost in the case. The case isn't really taught anywhere as an explicit kind of the textbooks of criminal law as not really addressed matching the public but it has had at the speed impact in drug laws people's attitudes towards addiction. So what kind of message do you think this case has. I now whoa where does it stand for us. Now we can sit here and talk about things like the specific lauren questions some of the specific sections in question but oh i think the case raises much bigger picture issues for us in relation to drug lords and drug policy and most of all. I think what it is that people often try to grapple with these. What is the meaning of this case. What kind of message does this send more broadly about the idea that we would encourage people to help each other or to care for each other to support friends and family <hes> all strangers who we encounter that use drugs and to engage in what a proven even harm reduction measures like that use of clean needles and syringes so there's a lot of questions that i'm left with as a result of the cow case one of them is really does a case like tau discourage people from injecting drugs in the company of other people or having people injecting their own harms. What what are you trying to cipher exactly five for them. Being on your own line way exonerating anyone look at what's happening exactly so if i knew see for example that you injected drugs i would much prefer for you to do that in my harm so that i can support you and call an ambulance if i needed to if if you've got into trouble than and to tell you to go off and do it down the street but this kind of prosecution or even just the reputation about this case is enough to sign a paper. You can't be doing that here in my house because on what be prosecuted that's right but what's really important. Is that what happens technically in a casey's and always what people in the public end up understanding significance case is to be it has a wide symbolic significance in princeton people's consciousness in a different kind of way given all of that of moves to reform this area of law because it sounds to somebody from what you're saying. That's not a good fit with reality but it also might be something that was kind of thinking about these issues from thirty or twenty years ago and the style we moved on from this. I i think that's a perfect way of describing it. So happy news is that they have have pain some changes in australian law in the last couple of years sorry across australia in all states and territories. These kinds of provisions have been on the books for decades but in the last couple of years tasmania the northern territory and the i._c._t. Have all moved to deal with with festival that prohibition on distribution that i spoke about and i was very pleased and very proud that my colleagues and i played a role in managing to to encourage the government to repeal that law in the i._c._t. There is now no longer a prohibition on distribution but what about in new south wales victoria yet there is that that remains on the books and sorry it's actually a very opportune time to be having this conversation because right now in victoria actually a very broad ranging parliamentary inquiry into drug law reform happening and <hes> a committee of the parliament column is considering whether any changes to any of our drug laws in victoria a needed and if so which ones and this plenty this to me is one of one of the ones that should be high on the list and and i've given evidence to that committee and i've i've told them as much one of the things that was very interesting. Is that a couple of members emma's if that committee said to me. I didn't even know that this was a law that we had on our in victoria and why would pay exactly. It's it's sounds newer obscure enter politician. Would you really be aware of such a lower your dealing with a community you might be entirely unfamiliar. We that's right. It does go to that bigger issue about the hell. Is the healthy shoot or is it a criminal lower issue. Yes and i'm wondering whether politicians are now ready to kind of move away from that crime construct. Yes <hes> kind of accept more of the public health and even personal health issues that are involved with addiction. Yeah i mean there has been this long. Standing tendency in-law for drug use to be saying in a binary fashions either a criminal problem or a health problem and in both senses actually to he's seen as a problem and what i think we need to do is move away from all of those conceptualization and towards a harm reduction focus and a harm reduction focused. He's one that says well. We acknowledged that a certain proportion of the public uses drugs despite the opinions of some people would say that it's possible to have zero druggies. Don't think that's really speak and sorry what we should be doing is making sure that we put in place strategies that reduce <hes> among those. There's people end up encouraging other people to get involved ni- that's one of the big misnomers this this no evidence <hes> that strategies lot needle needle and syringe programmes supervised injecting facilities which are the topic of significant debate in victoria at the moment. There's no evidence what's that if we establish these vital lifesaving health service harm reduction facilities that they encourage drug use i mean i think it's because i live across type would would be worried about i don't. I don't want to be a part of that because that's just going to encourage new addiction new use but many many i think you only have to think about it in relation to you so i mean if if a supervised injecting facility set up around the corner from your house melissa doesn't mean that you'd want it down and decide to inject heroin tomorrow probably not me yes. Maybe someone who's in a more vulnerable state than i am or more kind of on the cusp of making various left off decisions might be persuaded by the dealer or they would be dealer. It's rot. It's going to be fine because you can't get in trouble trouble and you can't get hurt and that kind of. I think that's where people think that harm reduction. Yes our lights. We've encouragement. Yes thinking what what about the person who's on the tipping point of becoming and that it normalizes drug use but what the evidence consistently tells us from australia and all around the world is that that's just not the case and in fact that <hes> there's a certain proportion of the population who is interested in trying folks there are certain people who will you just try drugs and and i think it's a profoundly moral and ethical and political question of why it is that we would not provide services to these people that we know at work that save lives that permit homs that <hes> preserve life in health. Why would we not provide them and we know that there are available and and that's one of the great i think political questions and ethical questions about time and it's alive question right here now in victoria and i hope to see the laws change. Thank you very much for a very interesting case and some very interesting ramifications that have come out of it as well. Thanks it's been a pleasure. You've been listening to melissa heston unkind from monash law school. You can check out the podcast the sanctum on the if you like to learn more about today's case check out the website at just cases podcast dot com say next on just cases is a production direction from monash law school music today's episode from audio being you can check out the back catalogue of just cases online just cases podcast dot com and subscribe on stitcher and soundcloud. If you have an idea for a case you'd like to hear more about on just cases. Get in touch on twitter you unfond us at show <music>.
#768: First Cow / Onward / Madness Sweet 16
"What kind of show you guys putting on here today. We're not interested in going to do this thing going to have a conversation from Chicago. This is film spotting. I'm Josh license and I met him. You have a cow cow in the catacomb saint plays for cows. No place for White Man. He's so turns out. There really is a cow in Kelly reichertz first cow. You didn't think there would be well. I thought maybe it was some sort of old timey expression like that this week on the show we have a review of first cow which is currently playing in limited release and some thoughts on. Pixar's latest onward all that and more first cow even meat is an expression pioneer slang. Something like that ahead on film spotting food. Hey it's Ben Henry and Marcus host of the last podcast on the left are shows dedicated to uncovering hilariously horrifying stuff. And now we're only on spotify. Join us if you want. Obviously we'd never force anyone to just blindly bad be crazy stories about doomsday cults. Who Do exactly that. And more please on spotify visit spotify dot com slash last podcast to listen free. Welcome to film spotting how could Kovic nineteen possibly affect a podcast. You ask well. We were supposed to have an interview with first cow director. Kelly reichardt This Week. But that's not happening. Her travel plans have changed as many. Your travel plans have changed and you'll have to settle for episode six. Oh Eight Archive. If you WANNA hear a prior conversation I had with Kelly Reichardt over the phone about another very good film from her certain women and it's a good interview. I revisited that in preparation hoping to talk to her myself. You guys had a good conversation. So yeah that'll that'll have to do this time. This time. I was looking forward to having her in studio and talking about first cow alas we will have to settle just for our thoughts on the movie we both also did catch up with Pixar onward weekend. Did you bring the kids as I brought the kids? You know the kids have not seen this one yet. I'm actually I saw at a screening a couple of weeks ago. So they do. They're curious so we might go see it again. We will talk about that briefly. An film spotting madness best of the twenty tens continues with the sweet sixteen revealed last week. We wrapped up our top twenty of the twenty. Tens countdown Josh. Do you recall what my number one film of the decade was yes. It was inside. Lewin Davis fairly. I wasn't very convincing in my praise for that. Coen brothers film. Because we're gonNA find out whether or not it made it out of the Second Round. A film spotting madness. It doesn't look good. Nothing ever looked good for Liu and Davis life has always been a little bit miserable and yes. This is going to make him win. Yeah there's GonNa make him. Even more of a misanthrope. This is really shocking. With the Coen brothers and the camp at our bump I know I mean my prediction bracket took a hit. Yeah mine too all that later in the show a while back. I predicted that I would be my favorite movie of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine. That didn't happen because it wasn't released. We'll discuss where we both land on. Kelly Reichertz period drama. Now that it's finally here give me another big thing for that last one the London We have to take what we can win. The taking. His good seems dangerous so his anything worth doing Royal Tau. Tichy barely produces thing. Some people can't imagine being stolen from and Surpise. WanNa go to window. History is in here yet. It's coming is time can taking on Ireland towns Adam if I was a good friend and podcast partner. I would have made some oily cakes and brought them with me today. No kidding unfortunately all I have to offer. Is this set up for review of Kelly records first cow in which a cook slash Baker in early Nineteenth Century Oregon teams up with the Chinese immigrant to sell the donut like specialties. At a trading post on the edge of the wilderness business booms for cookie and King Lou played by John Madero and Ryan Lee. But there's a catch. The two men can only make the delicacy by stealing milk at night from the cow of the outpost governor the first and only cow in the territory. I Kau is an intimately told tale friendship as captured by gentle gestures in front of crackling fires. But as that plot summary suggests it can also be read as a wider. Metaphor is the movie a critique of colonialism and manifest destiny does it have more contemporary resonance in terms of economic theory. Should we read these as capitalism cakes in some way or as you suggested Adam not long after we came back from our screening of the movie a week or two ago should I how be read in a simpler way as a parable? Now speaking of that screening. It was really not fair that they showed us this movie about eleven. Am I was Gonna say that was starving anyway? Oh my goodness. My stomach started grumbling white crazy. We're creeping up on dinnertime right about now so there may be a few stomach rumbles on this recording. I do WANNA know. Did first cow satisfy your appetite for another Kelly Reichardt period piece set in Oregon territory? Her other one meek's cutoff made both our top twenty films of the twenty tons more specifically how was it satisfying for you as a parable Adam? What do those oily cakes me? Yeah we'll take more. Kelly Reichardt wherever she might be shooting. I do love that. You bring up the oily cakes though because despite the fact that it was around lunchtime and we were both Hungary at that screening. I think it really speaks to the attention to detail in this film and the authenticity of it that you are watching those being prepared and you are watching those being sold and gobbled up and all you can think as I would do anything for one of those right now the same way. All of those people are reacting. That's how I was reacting. You could almost smell them as they were being made. There's an element of parable right away to this film in the main character. John McGuire called cookie as he encounters the Orion Lee character King Lou where he's naked he's shivering out in the forest. He's on the run and he's clearly desperate and cookie helps them. And then that kindness is returned by King Lou when they encounter each other later in the film. That feels like the stuff of parable to me but as you get deeper into the film and you mentioned capitalism cakes the story of these two men and their business venture does take on more of an allegorical resonance. I'd say you realize that. Reicher is critically but not polemically saying something about the nature of capitalism the so-called American dream. This whole idea of being self made men which they are striving for I would say the King Lou character striving at least more vocally or more explicitly for it but this critique comes in this idea record explores that despite your intentions and really may be despite your product. Even there's almost no way to avoid exploitation of some one of some group or something in this case and at best you're going to compromise your principles at worst. You might succumb to some kind of corrupting sphere. Where did really click for me? As a parable Josh this idea as you said a simple small story but imparting a large moral lesson and I go back to my junior year of college. My Bona Fides here. My favorite class. One of my favorite classes in college was Advanced Biblical Studies. It was just me in to other students and the professor who was also the chaplain at the school and it was devoted entirely to the parables of Jesus and as I recall from that class. There's usually some kind of twist to the story. There's an element of surprise. There's a subversion of expectations and early on in this film and here. I'm going to be very careful because I do not wanNA spoil anything partly because I'm not a monster mainly because I really want people to see this film but early. On in their success we encounter a character and it really is fair to say we encounter a character because I'm not even sure our main characters take note of him but we as viewers do because Reichert trains her camera right on him. And there's a moment that happens between him and a couple of the other characters in exchange. That should take place. I'll just say and it doesn't and you see the disappointment and it registers again because of the way Reicher shoots it but in that moment I was pretty sure that character was going to be completely inconsequential to the plot and for the most part. That's true except we do meet him again later in the movie. You're looking kind of confused whilst we know who you know where I'm going just collect. Yeah and and that's the part for me Amiss. Everything else were saying. That makes the film feel like a pair of all. That's the one for me where you almost say in. Hindsight had that moment played out differently. Would the future play out differently. Future that we then see enacted might have been different if some people had just acted with more kindness to this person that moment. And that's where you really do. Tap into records kind of method of storytelling. Yes so in a sense it turns the way you can see it likely but it also sort of turns on a dime on a very small thing So I do think that's true. I think you're also right to bring up this idea of exploitation. I think about two different characters. I think described the Oregon territory at two different points of the film. One use it uses this a land of abundance and then I think someone else describes as a land of riches in nearly everyone we see in the movie except for those the indigenous people who we get fleeting glimpses off but mostly it's white Europeans. Nearly everyone here has come to explain that and in the process they end up exploiting each other right including as well the natural world and the people who were there. So I guess the question you know and this goes back to the is this a critique irs as a parable for me is that exploitation built into the system or is it part of human nature and I think for me what was really interesting about first cows that was not polemical at all as you say and going back to the Biblical parables. They too can be read in many different ways and you can come away with many different interpretations of them as critiques. Yes and I think the same thing could be true here. I think this is you know there is a reading of this film. That's pro capitalist These bootstrap guys WANNA build their own empire. there's a reading of this that is also socialists while who who owns all the materials that are needed for them to build this legit business They're shady capitalists. They are stealing after all. So that's Kinda makes me zoom out and say this is a really interesting parable of greed just the way sure evidences itself in different people who in different social positions and have different opportunities and I just think it's really interesting that way? I think there are many layers to a movie. That has very little. Dialogue is incredibly patient and not does not give into any sort of speechifying. You're right the reason. Those oily cakes are so appealing is because we spend time with them making them and anyone. Who's talking about the about the ingredients anyone who's WHO's made a meal that took time and a lot of care and effort knows it tastes so much better than something. That was just dropped in front of you right. And that's what Reichert does she not only does that with the early cakes. She does that with this entire world that is centuries ago with people who live in completely different ways by emphasizing things like the squelching of the mud around this fort the fires. I mentioned there's a squealing pig. A that shows up once or twice and becomes part of the ambient soundtrack. It's the same sort of stuff. I remember you talking about the squeaky wheels in Meek's cutoff of the wagons It's four grounding that sort of stuff that builds this world so convincingly and puts us right there yeah and you said it's a payroll of greed. But what makes the story? So compelling is that our two main characters are two friends and of course like a lot of record films. It's first and foremost may be even a story of friendship more than even whatever it might be saying about capitalism and greed. But they're not greedy. There's nothing inherently greedy about them. There is something in them that wants to strive for more and wants to make money. But I think it's about something more in the case of cookie. He is an artist he. He does perceive himself as someone who wants to create. He wants to put time and care and effort into these and he wants to serve his audience. If you will right he wants to make them. Just a little bit sweeter. He thinks that's going to appeal to these people a little bit more. And you've got in king someone who more than just trying to amass riches wants to establish himself he wanted to carve his own path. And that's the key line for me. Yes there's lots of talk about the land being this land of abundance and land of riches but really the line of the film is one he says to cookie which is history. Hasn't gotten here and it's such a great line. I don't know of record wrote it or it was in the original material based on the John Raymond Book. They've worked together on some other screenplays and they worked together on this one but for him. He loves this territory because he's coming from a place in China that's defined by family heritage and what village you're born into in this culture that's been established for centuries that if you're going to be there you sort of have to fall in line with right and he gets to come over to America and it's just all about opportunity. It's all about him being in theory once you take of course race and you take off your other things out of it. What you can't take out of it but you can at least in theory begin to explore and follow that dream and he's on the right path. The movie pays attention to both the possibility of that dream and the limits on it because he is not white which gives cookie an advantage here but this performance by Orion Lee who I was unfamiliar with from before is so interesting and really instructive for the film. I think because this is a guy who's up against a lot we meet him as you said completely desperate on the run from something else. He's looked at askance in this fort by everyone else but he has a serenity to him and another line that he says at one point He mentioned the cookie how he's traveled. All over obviously has come very far. He says I believe different things in different places and this is it. Gives you the sense of this guy who is both in the middle of the story of his life somehow above it and observing and recording into and learning along the way for his next challenge and not being rigidly defined nutting leading the species in but he sees the opportunity for that to start happening now? Because this is this plan is not just practical on the part of the two of them for for King Louis. Existential it's a chance for him to set to define who is he's going to become a businessman and this is his opportunity in. That's why he convinces cookie who might not exactly have that sort of drive to take the risks that involves stealing the milk over the cover of night and I I do like that performance but I also love what John Megara do with cookie. I mean he's the early front runner for performance of the year. Okay I love him. I love him that much in this. I think they're both great. I think they're both great. Yeah and what Maguire is doing here is bringing he. He's painting a picture of a guy who's almost too gentle for this world. And in a sense he's bringing this traditionally feminine presence into a place. There are very few women in this movie so into a place that does not have that at all. And has this kind of re-orient our perception of about what does it mean to be feminine? What does it mean to be masculine? The first time we see cookie. He's with some for trappers out in the Wilderness and these guys watch L. threatening each other wrestling in the background And he's a completely he's gathering mushrooms he's tending to the camp handling all these domestic duties and this continues throughout the movie even when he meets King Lou when he's introduced when he's brought to the shadow King Lear Shack. I love how he's told. Make yourself easy right which you do. Instead of like grabbing a thing of whiskey and chugging it starts sweeping picks up a broom and then he shakes out. The pelt brings in a bouquet of flowers. My favorite touch on this end is when he's in that makeshift saloon. Back at the fort and a scuffle breaks out and they WANNA take it outside and for some reason one of the guys involved in the scuffles holding a baby a little a little baby carriage. He gives it to cookie. Obviously this is the person who might watch my baby while I go kick the skies s and it was just a gun like this sort of different perspective on what it means to be feminine for. Sure whether you're a man or a woman yeah. I think that's a really great observation because I didn't put it as I watched it explicitly in those terms. I thought about it in the sense of their partnership just the fact that he immediately does feel so comfortable that he starts making it a home. Of course. Then you're right. The logical progression from that is he does take on the more traditionally female role in that scenario. His name is cookie. He's the one who's doing the cooking. He's the one who's doing the cleaning for the most part and King Louis. The Guy who is the businessman. He's the one with the brain who is trying to direct kind of how this future business should grow for them. And I think that is a fascinating twist having both those characters be men in this scenario for Reicher to pull on us. Yeah and I think it does portray a friendship i. I didn't get any hint of this being you know sexual high. Although they form a domestic partnership absolutely. I've said feminine before I should also say masculine. I mean would it really does is show us a different way to be masculine. Not In this world not in this time and place that would be in this time and place no absolutely it. Forms this domestic unit. That is really beautiful in each kind of serving each other serving their life together in different ways. That are both necessary. And it's kind of what makes the suspense adds up as you get a sense. The longer they tried to pull this scheme. It's the only cow in the territory. Emmy Bryson someone's going to figure it out that this domestic Eden they've created is going to come crashing down. Yeah I think most importantly in their roles it's that it's who they are. They're being true to themselves at all times even if you take any traditional gender norms out of it I do want to go back to Megara real quick because I was that impressed with his performance and he someone I have seen before not sure I knew him by name definitely. Didn't recognize him here. And I think the big bushy beard has a lot to do with that but just a little bit of background. Is He an actor? You READY TO OKAY. So forty two. Imdb credits going back to two thousand five of course including a lot of TV shows and other types of things. I saw him. We saw him in war machine. The David Michel Film on Netflix. We saw him in the big short and he also is in Carol and those all came after the movie that introduced him to me which was twenty twelve's not fade away. David Chase's movie his first Film Sopranos. And that's a film set back in the nineteen sixties mcgarrell plays. Doug the main character who basically decides. He's going to devote his energy full time to rock and roll after the Beatles and the rolling stones and chases always described. The movie is one of the bands that didn't make it and I think he's very good in that role but again he's kind of been lost to me ever since then even though I've seen him in a few smaller roles here and there and you watch him in this film and there is just a kindness. I suppose there's a grace to him. The best word I can come up with. Is A SOFA Innis to him and he does it. As subtly as Reicher shoots the entire film it's his ability to impart so much with a simple look and in fact the biggest acting I think he does in the entire film and this is how small and quiet. The film is that a moment where he looks up at the cow and smiles. Broadly right we just haven't seen that from him or really anybody else in this space. This is a hard life. He has a moment where he can finally smile in that way in a really does disarm you and the subtlety with which mcgarrell portrays. Cookie here was really astonishing to me. It's a nice moment and it also connects back to the exploitation idea because yes he stealing the cow's milk but he's the one you get a sense of treats the cow the best right he talks to you mind and I think I think he's the cows best friend at one point the story. Is that the Great Shot. You know there are no ostentatious shots. Well there's one maybe we can get to. But there is a great shot of the cow arriving on that wrath just like serenely floating on the river completely out of place But just looking somehow serene still Using that word again I think it's a quality of this movie But on the journey there was also supposed to be a steer and I believe a calf and there's a throwaway line that those two died were lost along. The Way and cookie says something to the cow is. He's milking her at night. I'm sorry to hear you lost. It's another example of the kindness on that. You're talking about that. This animal you know. Animals are seen in this place as just crude materia that he's taking time to form this sort of relationship. You mentioned the the subtlety of the acting and connected to records filmmaking. We should probably spend a little time on that. Because as I said there aren't really showy shots here but this goes back to how she shoots nature and you got into this with her in your previous interview And she said something about no beauty shots on the set of certain women. They weren't going for that in Montana. And there's something similar here. The camera's always in the weeds in a way we should mention. She's using once again the four three aspect ratio. So you're not getting these which he did on. Meeks CORRECT THEM. These wide landscape shots and so it's nature just kind of you know it's there. It's part of the life it's part of the background and yet she still gives it That authenticity of place and time. That is compelling the ostentatious shot is the one at one point. Cookie will say he gets can costs. He's awakening from this and has a bleary point of view. Shot of him looking out the window a cabin and sees an older native. American man doing some ceremonial movements. Slowly against these windswept trees and with the bleary nece and the framing of the window. It is like your incredibly showy and I'd love to hear you getting a record for Reicher. Yeah but I love to get your take on that in Meek's cutoff I don't think it's a case of you. Know trying to exodus is the indigenous peoples there because she definitely has a deep respect for that element of this time lace. We've seen that MEEK's cutoff. Especially but he does just kind of jump out. It seems like it's a vision. Yes rops in on Cook. Yeah Yeah because of that. I thought it was effective. I think it is giving us the exact feeling that we're supposed to have in that moment as he is waking up in recovering and is in this kind of other state and I think that it's important to to her that we do see in this small story that is mostly about these two friends. She does always make time for some of these characters. On the periphery including native American characters. Which would have been true to this time and I think that gets back to the authenticity for me. I just wanted to tie that four by three framing back to what I was saying about McGowan his performance because I think they obviously go hand in hand and if we do get a chance at some point to talk to record Alaska about this if we ever talked to mcgarrell ask him about this but in basic terms. When you think about film-acting people always talk about the transition from stage to screen. And he's done a lot of stage stuff as well and the obvious difference being that you have to be a lot smaller. The camera captures everything. It registers every little move so less is more always on camera. Will I suspect that mcgarrell and Reicher both also had to be aware that less is even more when it's a four by three frazier right where now it's really emphasizing? Everything that's happening within that frame and most of the time it's cookies face you get the sense. Sometimes those tall trees behind them that not as wide frame of course does capture but for the most part it's these faces and I think it's that stillness and that ability of Megara to be so restrained within that four three frame that's really the wonder of the performance. Yeah that definitely helps. Focus our attention on him and he's up to the task for sure another performance. We should probably mention one that I think was probably immediately recognizable. I think for both of us is by Toby Jones. Who's the governor slash the commander of the Fort? I think he's basically in charge of this. This region here and he's the owner of the cow as well so he shows up in a great you know. Don't think of records films. It's laugh out loud funny but the first time he gets in line for an oil leak you know not knowing that it's completely possible. Because of his cows is kind of a nice and then he also turns that when they visit his home he asked them to bake a different dish and bring it for an event at his home and the look on his face. When King Lou enters the room and then dares to speak its yes kind of note of that takes note of that. And it's just you know it's an it's another little detail that's painting What you have to believe a very accurate portrait of this time in place I think in general how she dispenses information to us. Will we need to see what blanks she allows us to fill? In what blinks. We need to fill in and what we can fill in as viewers. She just really inherently understands and I want to mention to that there's a framing device though. I'm not so sure it's a framing device if it's only at the beginning not also at the end but we started in the present day hold say that and I did love that after this kind of prelude we go back to the eighteen twenties. But there's no major transition at all never second. You're not sure that you're not in the exact same space in these characters. Share the same time and place and I love the implication that there's a certain inevitability to the sweep of history to the story of these two characters. I think that's their inherently as more information does get dispense to us. We know where this is going. And rather than that spoiling anything it just makes it even more suspenseful absolutely and it also suggests that this land that we're talking so much about that this character we meet at the beginning play by Leeann Shaukat which he's digging into. She's digging into this ground. It tells you what this whole region with this territory was founded on yet is what this country was founded on this idea that the legacy of MS is sacrifice and it struggles and in this case. It's literally in the soil. It's really poignant to though because we will then go on to see a story. We're going to become deeply invested in and it shows you that it's a story that's been forgotten by time you had covered over by more soil and silt and whatever else is on the river bed. I also like the touch that it's not as if she romanticise nature when we shift to the past that Riverside looks pretty much the same for all of the development that has gone on and this is not to you know to kind of pretend nature hasn't been despoiled in the two hundred years cents. But I do like that. She just shifts as you said that the riverfront looks pretty much the same as it does now. If I remember correctly I noticed that as we open on a large ship carrying a bunch of containers going slowly across the frame when we go back to the past it's still boats bringing across the water. They're different sizes. They're made a different materials. Some of the stuff never changes as perhaps America never really changes on that note. We will wrap up. This conversation about Kelly Reichardt first cowboy movie. Obviously were both pretty enthusiastic about it. Is Out in limited release right now. I believe it's going to expand to more screens next weekend. If you see it and agree or disagree with our takes you can email us feedback at film spotting dot net. I will say Josh. Based on your reference earlier to that previous look ahead to the year was last year thinking. I might be your movie. Our I thought you would force me to ponder whether or not I how might just be standing at number one at the end of the year and it's way early and we have so many movies to see but I think it's going to be in the mix. Oh absolutely I mean you're right I I don't know how many twenty twenty films I've seen so far a under ten so it's number one right now though of seven it's standing pretty well all right onward where we go. We'll have a quick review of Disney Pixar. Latest when we come back plus the sweet sixteen of film spiny madness otherwise known as the goodbye blue and Davis edition stay with US gasoline in this world Muslim accounts keeps Hutson in offshore. Money is quick. Can't I got stop off Kid for you? What's I was always making food off. Your bordenave step by hated made me sick when I had electric kissed me. I only did it. Because you're begged me drove me. That he Davis they're just not putting up with any of our nonsense looking forward to more felt bad about only seen a couple of films but that was pretty harsh. That's Davis in nineteen thirty four's of Human Bondage Davis is the subject of our next film spotting marathon. I'm not sure we mentioned this on the show previously. We might be springing it on a few people though it has been on our marathons page over film spotting dot net for at least a month or two. We have known that this was going to be our first project this year. Fill in some blanks when it comes to Bette Davis. So you're not gonNA see all about eve in the marathon as much as I'd love to revisit it. There are a few others that were familiar with but we are going to embark on four film that he Davis Marathon starting next week with of human bondage that's directed by John Cromwell from nineteen thirty four. Josh we're GONNA go then. To thirty eight William Wyler of course pretty famous for his collaborations. I think on three films with Davis Gel. Then one thousand nine hundred forty or we could go to one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Because there's too we've been considering we've got another one from Wyler the letter and we've got Edmund Goulding's dark victory depending on who you ask. Well that's the problem could go either way and I'm not sure which way I want to go but I suppose I'll throw out here on air production meeting. I'm leaning towards dark victory because we've got another wiler in there and Goldens one of these directors who no one really knows. I don't feel like I know him at all and yet if look at his list of titles made a lot of prominent movies in this time period. So that's where I'm leaning. Yeah that makes sense to me. I mean why double up on a director in a marathon about an actress. If you don't have to so yeah we'll close it out then with nineteen forty. Two's now voyager and we are considering for our films spotting family members over on. Petri on a bonus episode in April or May where we will discuss. Whatever happened to baby? Jane may be have guest on for that one. We hope yeah kind of the perfect guests. So we're not gonNA naming names until we nail that down But this is. This is one of the Bette Davis films. I have seen relatively recently and I still feel like it kind of has to be part of marathon part of her legacy at least so hopefully. That'll work out. We are going to tie into this discussion of human bondage with a top five that we already know how we're going to structure it or how we're going to approach it. It is going to be five films. Of course it is a top five. But we're going to look at the nineteen thirties and what we're going to do is not offer you the definitive five best films of the. Nineteen thirties though. I think we both been doing some prep. And there's a very good chance of those five movies that we're going to pick could be considered or would come close to being considered probably true of the nineteen thirties. We're going to give you a nineteen thirty starter. Pack there are enough great film certainly from that period there enough great films from that period we have seen. We feel like we can give everyone. If they're unfamiliar maybe even a little daunted by the thought of diving into those films. We're GONNA give you five films each that would give you the best sense of the decade and maybe I suppose to really break it down. We're going to give you simply. Will we think are the best films from some different genres? The nineteen thirties covered. Yeah try to provide a portrait of the decade in film. And what makes this idea especially work for the thirties? Is You look at it? And you've got great musicals going on you've got great horror movies You have gangster films comedy calms you have the Marx Brothers. Charlie Chaplin You have errol. Flynn doing some of his best work. So even by narrowing it down this way. I've tried to put together a preliminary list and I've got basically ten. Yeah that you know should be in that top. Five as ours is going to be tough. Yeah if you want to make mention of a film that we either need to try to squeeze in. Maybe we haven't seen it or WANNA make sure we don't overlook you can email US feedback at film spotting dot net. Tell us what might be on your nineteen thirty starter pack. We also wanted to take a moment on this show to acknowledge the passing last weekend of Max von Sydow. Ninety years old not that it matters certainly looking at his legacy but nominated for two Oscars best actor in one thousand nine hundred nine. Pelle the conqueror that I'd completely forgotten about this but twenty twelve best supporting actor for extremely loud and incredibly close. He does have one more film. That is currently in post production. It's called echoes of the past. He Stars as an acclaimed. Greek writer reflecting on his past specifically in nineteen forty three Nazi massacre in Greece. A lot of great remembrances about Von. Sydow came out in the wake of his passing. I saw on Justin. Chang wrote for the L. A. Times worth checking out and Mark Harris also shared this on twitter. You could create at least three Max Sido Film Festivals Bergman Sido paycheck Vencido miscellaneous fence Idaho. And they'd all be full of good movies. And all enriched by his committed moving and often witty work he was a category of one. Rip So to give you a sense of some of those films that would fit those different film festivals. There would be programmed at those festivals. You've got Bergman. The seventh seal wild strawberries very small role in that film winter. Light hour of the wolf through a glass darkly and the Virgin Spring. I've seen all of those except for hour of the wolf and if you go back way back to two thousand seven here on the show Matt. I did a Bergman Marathon and we did our awards of course as we do. At the end of those marathons we call them. The Sven's and we had a category that was best performance by maximum side because he was in so many of them. I gave it to winter light and this is a movie that listeners may recall coming up a lot certainly on this show in relation to Paul traitors first reformed a movie the draws from a lot of influences including zoo and dryer and Brisson. He talked about that. All here in an interview on the show with us but I would say most definitively winter light winter light is really the touchstone for schrader and first reform and if you know reform fairly well von. Sydow plays in winter. Light the character who would be the guy that's really the person who incites the crisis for Ethan Hawke's character guy who comes in and says there's no hope more in the world in first reformed. It's about the environment and how we're destroying it in winter light. It's the threat of nuclear war. That Causes Garner Bjorn Strands priests to succumb to his crisis. A lot of great stuff there in Bergman collaborating with Von Side. Of course the seventh seal we rush through it quickly but that image of him playing chess with death is maybe the Bergman image. Yeah that's the one you saw popping up on twitter after the news broke. If you WANNA try to categorize that paycheck Film Festival that Marquess was talking about. Maybe you'd think of something like Flash Gordon. He was also in minority report Shutter Island. I mean both for paycheck. Rolls Really. Good films The Force Awakens as well member showing up at the beginning of that Dune Eighty full him later this year chance and then also Conan the barbarian judge dredd the exorcist to strange brew and Ice Pirates. Yeah forgot about him in ice is to dig that film. How about the miscellaneous category while maybe you would throw the exorcist in there. As Father Merrin Hannah and her sisters and the Diving Bell and the butterfly. He has a brief scene. Right is at one's been awhile since I've seen Ab only one scene got. It is a key scene fairly long. Maybe five or six minutes. I'll just say if I'm going to these festivals it's the miscellaneous. I don't know what other movies we'd throw in there. But you're talking about in the exorcist and Hannah and her sisters two of my favorite films of all time. And He of course very memorable roles in one his father. Merrin in Hannah as Frederick. Who's the really pretentious partner of Barbara Hershey character? In that movie I do also have great affection for the Diving Bell and the butterfly made my top ten of its year. And Yeah there's a key scene in it where Matthew Omic who is now thinking back on his life. He is in that hospital bed. Can't move really any part of his body and he's thinking back to when his father played by von Sydow is in firmed and can't care for himself as well as he used to and we see. I'm Rick Shave Him. And it's a very tender seen done between two characters who clearly have a lot of history and a lot of baggage and some real tenderness does come out over the course of it and I do love a key line. I re watched it in preparation for this show. And there's a great line that I feel like sums up von side. Also perfectly aftershave perfect shave he looks Marigny says God. They don't make them like me anymore. And that really sums it up. That goes back to Harris's comment. He was a category of one yet. Another quality the interesting thing about him is he was almost always resonated the most as someone from the vast passed or the uncertain future. Yeah no he was. I mean. Of course something handed her sisters he. He's excellent but he had that quote that out of time quality I think he had that enhanced her sisters as well so rest in peace. Max Von Sydow over at film spotting Dot Net if you click on events you can find information about advance screenings. We do have some passes currently to give away to the banker with Anthony. Mackie and Samuel L. Jackson that screening is on Thursday. The nineteenth here Chicago. If you WANNA see it for free and see it in advance of its release as also where you will find information about our live shows and yes as of right now. We are certainly planning to go through with these live shows. Were excited about it and we hope to see many listeners on Saturday may sixteenth in. La As of this taping tick aren't available but they will be available soon. Tickets are available for our Friday June nineteenth show in Brooklyn. If you want more details on either of those shows again go to film spotting dot net slash events. Unfortunately we did have to take a different event off that page just heard today before coming to record that they have decided to cancel the conference on. World Affairs. This was at the University of Colorado Boulder where I was going to be doing. The Ebert. Interruptus on Cleo from five to seven so yes with cove in nineteen concerns and precautions. They've canceled that whole event. Which unfortunately means I don't get to spend four days with CLEO and All the great people who usually come out to that so hopefully things We'll start turning around improving and we'll be back at Ebert interruptus next year. That's a real. Bummer I feel for you and feel for everyone who doesn't get to participate in that. 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Madness is absolute madness. This is absolute madness massive. Why should you build such thing? It is film spotting Madness Time. We started with sixty four and just like that. Were down to sixteen. The calling always happened so quickly all the preparation. You and Sam put into this all the excitement the agonizing and then like that there's only sixteen movies left it's our annual bracket style tournament. Sixty four films from the twenty ten this year. Only one of them can reign. Supreme Voting in the sweet sixteen round of this year's madness kicked off earlier this week. Remember new rounds open every Monday? So the last round voting stops at eleven. Am by noon. The winners are up and the madness starts again. That's all at film spotting dot net slash madness before we get into those sweet sixteen matchups. We of course have to reveal the results of round two again over thirty five hundred Josh Votes. Cast in most of these and we had some blowouts once again. Yup Parasite really took to marriage story. I figured parasite win but not by eighty five to fifteen percent. That's something X. Maka took out John. Well Yeah I mean we thought John Wick was really gonNA maybe make a run after its initial we on X. mcdonagh eighty one to nineteen percent ex and actually one of the lower seeds to advance you guys had exceeded twenty fifth. That's right are the master one over dog to seventy five to twenty five percent and the tree of life took out personal shopper. Also seventy five to twenty five percent. So we've heard the blowouts. What about some of the upsets under the skin versus the act of killing under the skin? Technically the lower seed but the outcome. Not really a surprise. It did win. Sixty one to thirty nine percent over Joshua Oppenheimer's documentary moon rice kingdom. Josh Wes Anderson Against the Wolf of Wall Street Wolf of Wall Street was the higher seed in the tournament. Moon rise actually was forty fifth now in fairness to myself and Sam Grand. Budapest hotel I think was a top ten seed so we put moon rise a little further down the list but it took out the Wolf Wall Street pretty decisively fifty five to forty five. Does my heart good. This does not do my heart. Good in fact this. This breaks my heart arrival verses inside. Lou and Davis Louis Davis our number seven seed. Would anyone of question that no putting it in the top tacitly would have said. Maybe it's too low. Maybe a rival seated thirty ninth Denisov Villeneuve's film with the shocking upset over the CONES FIFTY. Three to forty seven. Young Davis is out. This is really vanished. To the underworld. We talked at one point about understanding that there is this personal attachment to arrival this deep groundswell of love for that movie. I didn't know it was this widespread L. to take out the Cohen's I'm shot. Glue and Davis is the highest seed to lose in the tournament. Seven as we said Carol the eighth seed lost in the first round memorably to the Baba Yoga the cones so they won our nineties madness. Fargo best film in the nineties according to phones funding listeners. Fargo yes they took third place last year in the best of the two thousands with no country for old men and back in twenty sixteen when we did our directors tournament for Films Funding Madness. They want it all yet somehow. I don't know if all of our listeners just in the past two years have have gone away and all new listener of this. What I'm wondering or is there a is the Coen stock starting to slide. How could that APP? I can't imagine but they're out. They're out completely now from this year's Tournament and I'm just not going to dwell on it anymore more Josh because I might start crying on air and I don't want to do that. We do close the results with our closest match up of around two and we talked about it last week. This is a match of the probably shouldn't happen. The people who made the bracket I don't know who those idiots are. The could've done a much better job. Lady Bird the grand. Budapest hotel should have been facing off in the sweet sixteen. Maybe even the elite eight somehow they faced each other in round two thirty six hundred votes. Josh and it was so close. What was the margin of victory eighteen votes eighteen? If you think your vote doesn't count. Yeah if you thought this matchup is too hard. I don't WanNa make a choice. I don't WANNA weigh in. And now you're feeling bad because your preferred choice may have lost. You should've voted that close fifty point eight three percent to forty nine point six two percent eighteen votes but winning with those eighteen votes lady bird about that Greta. Gerwig TAKING WES ANDERSON. And Ray finds out. Of course I do feel good about that. My bracket maybe doesn't feel so good about it but a lady guy so go listeners. Y- you're you're torn in that way. That happens with madness. I Moon rises still in there so I feel okay about that and actually Grin Budapest. You know I did end up voting for it but this was a difficult one for me too so either way I would have been happy. Okay so we can. Now go through these pretty quickly because we are down to the sweet sixteen that means there are only eight matchups and I thought we would have a little fun here instead of kind of alternating through our toughest. Maybe I'll give you my categories UC. Were you disagree with Me Josh? All right so here are the four matchups. I thought were relatively easy. It doesn't mean I don't love all of these films in fact I do love all eight of these films but I had clear victor so the first one is Mad Max fury road versus once upon a time in Hollywood easy. You're with me. Of course men called mad. Max Your number one film of the decade. Hollywood didn't make your top ten. No I think it was twelve okay. The tree of life versus under the skin both were in my top. Ten actually was a top eleven films of the decade. I think under the skin was just outside the top ten but I had tree of life at three. You handed it to another easy okay. Her versus parasite last year's parasite. I love her. But parasite was my number eight film of the decade. That's my winter. Yeah that's what gives me pause but it's parasite now you've mentioned a couple times moon rise kingdom it advances to the social network. I feel like every week. This is the fourth time now. I've had to point out how much it pains me to vote against Moon Riding. No you're going to think that I don't actually like the movie at all the way into sound like that. I keep saying it should lose but the social network did make my top twenty of the decade. So I'm giving the edge. I'm guessing you're going to go the other way. It's easy for me because it's motorized window. Okay we get to the two. Then that I think were more challenging but actually weren't necessarily the actual toughest. I think this one is GonNa tear a lot of listeners released. I hoped it would the master my number. Two film of the decade versus Ladybird my number five film of the decade. And I say it's not actually that hard only because I had already gone through that heartache of having to rank them for that top twenty films of the decade Shir. I can't go back on that. I have my winter as much as I love. Ladybird as much as I would love to see that film. Greta GERWIG advance. I did rank the master higher. The master gets my vote. Here this falls into the toughest category for me because these neither of these were in my top twenty. Love them both. However and it's appearing I don't even know how to begin to think about putting them together. They're just so entirely different. Like different filmmakers. So this is the toughest category for me and I'M NOT DECIDE. You're not deciding. Okay this is different from last year when I would just impulsively make my votes. I love your paralyzed by the master versus Lady Bird. That's what madness is supposed to do another one. I'm calling just challenging. Moonlight versus boyhood again though moonlight didn't quite make my top ten considered in my top thirty from the decade boyhood did make my top ten at number seven. So I'm going later. You're going to go the other direction. Yep same scenario just opposite way for me boyhood was not on my top twenty but I had. I think. Moonlight was number three for me. That sounds right okay. So then the two for me that were the actual toughest all four of these films. I'm going to mention. Were outside my top ten. I didn't really have to wrestle with exactly where they fell though. All four of them were considered by me for my top twenty films of the decade. And that's why this is so hard Paul Thomas Anderson. He's got the master in in the sweet. Sixteen phantom thread also making the sweet sixteen but going up against ex Montana a movie you and I had at the top of our lists of the best films of the year. It came out it did. Make your top twenty. It was my number eleven. I think it was because I think I have phantom thread ranked lower you do. Oh isn't that funny? How that works. That's not sound right. You were sitting down preparing for your list. It felt right two weeks ago. Yeah Tip Phantom Thread Lower and somehow when you have to make the vote when you actually have to think about clicking the button that you know is putting phantom thread in the incinerator ever. That's the problem because I spoke to. Phantom threads rewatch ability which I think is probably greater than X. concealing against your ranking. Yes he's voting fan. I'm rendering my top twenty of the twenty tonnes list point relevant that for both of us. This is why we call it madness. Finally one that will be definitely easy for you. This has got to be in the easiest category. Yes get out versus arrival. Get out for me. I love both films and both fall into that category of movies. I want to revisit again and again if I'm picking right now just between which movie I. WanNa throw in the DVD player and reconsider. It is a rifle so I think I'm going with the upset here and I'm picking arrival. I don't know that it's going to win. I don't know that it's Cinderella story is going to continue but if I'm voting get out or arrival I'm giving it to arrival. I think it actually has a shot looking at it. What it's already gone through. I think it could happen. You can vote. We hope you will. You can't predict anymore. Of course we're now in the sweet sixteen but you can go to film spotting dot net slash madness again every Monday at noon. The next round start so this Monday. You can see which movies will make it to the elite eight and we get some great comments and is one of our regrets time that we haven't been able to devote as much attention to the great comments that we get. Maybe we can save them up for another episode but I did want to point out just a quick procedural thing. 'cause I got a couple of comments this year from People Josh saying. I don't know how to leave a comment or I don't know how to go back into the poll and leave a comment and I love our listeners. They're so honest and forthright. They figured out that if you click the vote again if you make a choice again it will bring up the ability to click on common and then you can leave the comment. But you'd be voting twice voting. One would do that and even though we're Chicago based show that seems to our listeners. That's how seriously they take it and that's obviously we take this. Here's the thing though we've got some things said on the back end very tricky once you vote that's locked in your vote and you can't again so the fact that you click. Let's say forget out a second time. Vote it's not actually registering your vote. It's just going to say to you access. Exactly it's going to say to you thank you. We've already registered your vote. Ooh And we will be reporting you. That's madness headquarters said we're going to track you down. It's like minority report or something but no just do that. If you want to go back in and leave a comment you forgot her. He thought of something pithy to say later. Just vote again and go in and click comments there you go. Don't spotting dot net slash madness is where all the fun happens. Now it's time to look at the prediction leaderboard gas. We mentioned it last week. Six hundred seventy eight film spotting listeners submitted rackets and after round two. We've got a new name at the top. It was Mark Shaplen pretty good. He's only dropped to fourth place. Not Bad at all no but our new leader is justin tape. He's in Santa Monica California. He named his bracket really want stories. We tell the knockoff tree of life. I love that sentiment as much as I love. Tree of life didn't happen. Obviously There Justin. Justin managed to pick all sixteen second round matchup. Liga the sixteen for Sixteen well-done Justin and he wrote to us. He's a longtime listener and going back to two thousand eight former massacre theater winner. I also think we did talk about a movie. He selected for our listeners. Choice Way back on after hours episode. That was before your time Joschka. Justin wrote in the secret to my round to success is that I did. No research knocked out my bracket number two minutes. And what with my heart over my head on what I had his coin? Flip matchups eeg arrival over. Lou and Davis assume. I'll probably go about two for eight in the sweet sixteen. Considering you're employing the Josh Larsen Strategy Yes just an. It's not looking good for you. Well so far it's paying off for you as well. Yeah but it's making it work this time we're going to our leaderboard me you sam compete against each other along with founding father of films Spotting Madness. Mike Merigan in Dover New Hampshire. Let's see how we did after round two so I am in. I was I last round as well. I think I was. I have dropped a little bit though I because now thirty first or something thirty first place I got thirteen out of sixteen right Here's where I start getting confused. I don't I don't know what all this means. There's one hundred seventy four possible points your main looking at all years. That could still advance. I get them all right if you got them. All at one hundred seventy four points. Yeah one hundred seventy four point. Okay got it. And let's see SAM's notes here. I have six of the elite eight laughed and all four of my final four. They're alive so that sounds pretty good not as true for Sam unfortunately Sam Is in sixty ninth place. Got Twelve out of sixteen right which means he has a hundred and fifty two points remaining. He only has five of his elite eight predictions left. Any only has two of his final four. So yeah that's rough Adam. Your third place among the four of us a hundred seventeenth place among all listener predictions. You got thirteen out of sixteen right. You have a hundred seventy more than US remaining. This is where I'm confused I well. Let's see here seven of your elite eight or laughed. Okay so that makes sense. I only have six and you also have all four of yeah final just means the ones I got wrong. Don't have a chance of moving on anyway. Okay Yeah Mike merigan founder. Films Spotty Madness. Listener is in fourth place. I'm sorry Mike. You're in two hundred and twenty fifth place among all listeners. You Got Twelve out of sixteen right in this second round. You have one hundred seventy six points remaining seven of your elite eight or left and all four of your final four so you may recall Josh that I think it was last week on the show. I declared SAM. Dos Out said. He was done And being done is really all that matters finishing last in the moment. There's no prize for winning ragging rights. We only punish you only get punished. If you lose. You GotTa Watch an Adam Sandler netflix movie. That was me last year. It was you. I think every year before that I said Sam was done and the math seem to add up right because he only has five of his elite eight left and I knew that he was only going to have to his final four left Shirley. His bracket is busted. Guess Shirley I say yes except I can't give it away because again. I have access to the sauce. I can see the calculations I can see. How some of the votes are going in early voting. So far and I'm just GonNa say Josh that you pick the master to win it all the yes. It's going to be close. You see not pull it off. What you're telling me as SAM has a path SAM has a path. You Mad Max Fury Road to win it all. He has a path to not lose. He has a path to not lose. I don't think there's any way Sam is going to win. Got It but God is a world where he doesn't lose and in fact there's a world where fourth-place actually two hundred twenty fifth place. Mike Merigan wins it all because Josh if surprises continue to play out and upsets. Continue to happen if you look at the final four that I chose you SAM. There's some combination of parasite might be an all three or at least two of them. Mad Max fury road. The master. If there are upsets and say fury road goes down or the master goes down this round. Mike. Baragan doesn't have those movies in his final four and he does have get out versus. I think the social network he may also have fury wrote in the final four but he does have get out beating everybody. Reigning supreme over the Social Network. In if somehow those movies do make it all the way to the championship Mike. Megan could win it all but all the really matters is he might not finish dead last. It could be you. It could be Sam for all. I know it could be me. I haven't done enough of the math. It sounds like you've done a lot of work actually much. I would think you'd have a winning all work. I still didn't know still don't know I need another Ramos. I need to simple. This is why I don't like there are some. Mit people out there. They can crunch these numbers and run. Some predictions can you help us out. We could use it. We could feedback films. Spotting dot net is the email film spotting dot net slash madness of course the URL. Where all this happens. In early voting we will say that none are really that close but there is at least one upset in the making. Sorry Josh Sweet. Sixteen voting is open until Monday March Sixteenth at eleven. Am If somehow you're not getting enough films fighting madness. We tried something new. This year are film. Spotting family members over on Patriae on they have the fit to reckon with the film spotting invitation tournament just like the NC Double A. Has Another tournament for the thirty two kind of also rans if you will. We made up a thirty two film bracket of the films that were left out of film spotting madness this year. Because there was a lot of wailing and gnashing of t s when the films that were in it were revealed immediately. People don't see one of their favourite titles of the decade and they want to know why they want reasons. They want answers while now they get a whole nother tournament. We're trying to throw you guys a bone but also make ourselves feel better. It was hard we left out movies. Like call me by your name. My Beloved Little Women. My beloved the handmaiden. Those movies are in the thirty. Two film film spotting invitation tournament. Were doing a match up a day over on the Patriot page which means the fit should wind up actually about the same time as film spotting madness proper and we did as of this taping. We posted the first matchup one a day every day at ten. Am again only four family members. It's an exclusive benefit to our family members call me by your name versus the handmaiden for this one. We decided to unify the films. In round one by some kind of theme only by your name and the handmaiden both under the umbrella of the visitor. Okay I love the handmaiden. I like call me by your name quite a bit too but this was an easy one for me to go at the park channel film most people who filled out there prediction bracket something. Like one hundred seventy in this tournament had called me by your name going quite far in fact. Maybe doing it all and I'm here to tell you that's not happening. It's going down. That's shocks me. The handmaiden is winning this match up. 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Patriotic DOT com slash film spotting is the address times the world was full of wonder tick but times changed birthday boy. Laws OF YOUR TUB. The amend today kneel before me that's Okay Hey the cast your dad he said to give you this when you were both over sixteen. Oh No it's a wizard step. Dad was a wizard. Dad was an accountant spell. Brings him back for one all day? That will be back not quite back to life. That's not possible is with this. I'm GONNA meet Daf. We're going to close out this show with some thoughts on the latest from Pixar their twenty second feature film you heard a little bit from the trailer therefore onward a movie that is set in a suburban fantasy world. Chris Pratt and Tom Holland voice. Two brothers named Ian and Bar Lee. Who Manage to. Let's just say through some wizardry revive their father who passed away something like sixteen years ago before his young boy. I think before he was actually born. Yeah while while. His MOM was pregnant and they've got the lower half of his body. Yes half the spell worked that's it or can literally half cell worked so they have to go in search of things? They need to complete the spell to complete the spell. Well said and as is it a show that likes to do a lot of maybe it makes sense to start off this brief discussion with a list because our friend. Matt Singer formerly of Film Spotting Svu ranked all twenty two pixar films. He had onward at Thirteen and based on a tweet. You shared earlier this week. Josh you had it at fourteenth. I'VE GOT IT. Actually at fifteenth on my list so thirteen fourteen fifteen does this mean then to someone listening that onward must be a lackluster. Pixar film or does it speak to the quality of their body of work that it's that low. Yeah I mean. I think that's what I was trying to point out is that this is not a backhanded compliment to rank it in the rain. That all three of us have it just for Reference Pixar has twenty two films so yeah it's in the middle of the pack and I think that's very accurate for the output that we've gotten from the animation studio. This is well above average family animated film in terms of its design and visuals in story too. I think This world they've created of suburban fantasy world so it used to be more fantastical place but the conveniences of technology have been adopted to a point where ferries no they just take airplanes to fly. Because why Bother Flying Yourself? Plano do it for you. So there's a little like Simpson S. Quit their skewering How we've come to rely on technology. There's a lot of dungeons and dragons stuff. It's clever in the way you expect. Pixar to be but maybe not mind-blowing Lee inventive. Like something like inside out which makes you rethink consciousness So yeah it's a high bar right. what I will say about on word and if it's being discussed as a middling effort in its defense I think it really builds to one of those classic emotionally Cathartic moving climaxes. That is not manipulative. I think there's some delicate choices and without giving anything away that they make their regarding the potential reunion with the father regarding the emphasis on the brother relationship. Which kind of. We didn't realize the movie is really about how it becomes about. I think that this finale is among one of Pixar's strongest. Actually what comes before is maybe more. What we've you know something where maybe a little more use to. It's also great action finale while all that emotional stuff is going on. There's a fantastic dragon that appears So yeah there's a lot to like about anward is it finding Nemo Ratatouille is a toy story. Yeah no but few films are yeah. I hate to say great job on that premise. Pixar but they did it again as far as coming up with a really compelling one here if you think about movies like inside out and wally and toy story and these are movies that really tap into fundamental questions about our humanity and here they have pulled that off with onward this question this exploration of the idea of what if you could spend one more day with a parent or any loved one who you have lost and I do think they managed to explore that in a way. That isn't manipulative. Their heart always seemed to be in the right place to me but even more than that. I think you mentioned this in terms of convenience. This central idea that everyday life for these people is kind of lost. Some of its magic. And they've chosen lives of convenience and self gratification. I think that's something. We can all relate to the movie reminding us to take moments to think about the magic in the world is never a bad thing. And you're right. I think it builds to a very satisfying emotional climax. I think that finale is pretty thrilling. I think maybe I didn't react quite as strongly as you did to it or quite as strongly as fix hoped. I would just based on that journey. They're only because it's an escalation of crises and new characters that is for me relentless and a little bit overwhelming and. I'm not sure it's really a good thing or a bad thing to say about the movie. That may be the aspect. I appreciated most before. That finale was it's nods to Indiana Jones and the last crusade it pulls a lot from holds a lot of and maybe I'm just happy that I can feel like a good sinophile dad sitting there with all four of my children and their down the road from me a little bit. But there's a key moment where the movie is clearly ripping off Indiana. There's multiple moment's they're taking from last crusade also movie about a father and son reunion of course connery and Harrison Ford and Sophie turns to hold and it says something like it's Shova you idiots and and Holden says to her. Oh so I'm not the only one right. They were all locked in because they love last crusade as much as I do so that might have been my favorite part of it. Yeah that's that is fun and your I can see what you mean. There's an escalation of challenges. I mean it's a question movie right it's modeled That's part of the joke. In a way it's modeled after dungeons and dragons style right. Roleplaying quest and some of those pieces. I agree do work better than others. I it'll tedious and and and I think to Josh. I'll just say that at the expense of unfortunately vocal performances in characters. That like Octavia Spencer. Plays Julia Louis Dreyfuss as the mom who then are largely wasted because we only get to spend so much time with them before we gotta get back to that crisis. I would actually say that's one thing. I liked that they would have been wasted if we just met them in each of their scenes but they actually have the two of them pair up and follow. The boys and I was so grateful for that. Because they're dynamic is really strong Octavia. Spencer plays this fantasy creature. Manta core. Who in this new world is running theme restaurant based on her past exploits right and kind of comes back into her own battle. Glory and I think what you're you're saying that is because there seems so good. We wanted more of your hard. But also. In retrospect the more I thought about their scenes in exchanges. I felt like they didn't tie in as much. I see the residents. But they didn't tie in as much to some of the larger themes of the actual story instead. I see them how they serve the plot how they need to be there and those character traits and character histories need to be in place so they can bail out characters at other points in the movie. That's the manticore. Oh great and powerful Medical Center. You're right you're late last night. I understand there's traffic. You need to plan for that. Maybe your mother's get her own car. Fearlessness my brother and I seek a map to a Phoenix Jim. You've come to the right tavern. I have the parchment you desire right here. Oh Children's menu. Isn't that fun? They're all on my own maps. So just give me some context for your ranking. You're putting it at the middle of the pack. Would you have a round onward like what? What other films are you saying? This is kind of in the same tier as if you look at it that way. Yeah with it at fifteen. Obviously I would put it in that. Eleven to fifteen and right next to it. Here's where I am heretical. I go way off the chart compared to most pixar fans most sinophile. I've got ready to just ahead of fourteen. Grew out for me a mostly overrated pixar film. We'll talk about singer in second. He kind of agrees with me. I've got your beloved brave ahead of a thirteen monsters INC at twelve and toy story. Four movie I know you have much lower. I've got it at eleven. Nobody that's interesting. I would put toy story four in the same tier as onward because I have honoured fourteen toy story four fifteen just ahead of onward is Coco And then toy story. Here's where I'm a little off toy story. Two which people love. I've got it further back. It's at twelve. So it's right along alongside that group. I think I think that feels about right now. Have you seen all twenty two? Because I've only seen nineteen. I acknowledge on my letterbox list that I have not seen cars to or cars three or the good dinosaur and for the record. Messinger has those in this order. Twenty First Sixteenth and twenty second. So maybe I'm not missing a whole lot. Sixteenth cars three. He says that's the best of the three cars films. Who Yeah you're I only I seen a lot. I've got cars to as I have seen them all cars to a twenty-one cars three at twenty two just ahead of cars to in the twentieth spot is monsters university which we should probably point out the director the writer and director of Onward Dan Scanlon. He previously directed Monsters University. And I've got monsters university second to last at eighteen for me bug's life is in that final spot at nineteen also the movie and I suppose this makes sense based on where it falls in its history. It's the one I saw the longest ago. So have the lease concrete thoughts on it. But this is the thing about Pixar. I've got nineteen films and a Bug's life and monsters university and finding Dory and then cars in the bottom four I don't strongly dislike any those films in fact I kinda like all four of them so that's good thing with Pixar right. Is that the worst it gets is basically I kinda like those. Even cars three is probably the only one I would say. I've given a negative review two out of all of those films and I did ask Matt how he would tear them in terms of. If there's a clear drop off to movies. He doesn't like and he told me that. Really it's just those bottom two cars to in the good dinosaur being the only two that he didn't give at least three stars too. So that's twenty other movies that he is otherwise favorable on in terms of comparing mindless to. Matt's do love that he's got in his number one slot inside out and finding Nemo at two so I've got inside out a little lower but Nemo I've got at number one so very close to Matt and we actually share four of our top five picks inside out Nemo Toy Story. Two and wally up is the only one that he's got three that I have slightly back further in the eighth slot. We will link to Matt's list in our show notes overfell spotting dot net. If you WANNA check it out. I said he kind of agrees with me on ready to we. I've got it as low as fourteenth. He's not that low. He's got it at nine but I think that is heresy. You're a lot of pixar fans. That's that's the top five certainly a top ten for months nonsense. It's number two but I'll send I'll say number two is number two for me but we are in agreement finding Nemo. It's their best. So brave is the one that you like or tend to rate a little bit higher than most Matt Singer. This is the one that you have to be really upset about. Forget Ratatouille at nine brave at nineteenth. Yeah but also nonsense at night since going on this specific issue and I haven't seen the movie in a very long time since it came out we talked about it on the show but he has a specific issue with the movie which he doesn't think that relationship between the daughter and mother character is is handled as well as it should be or complexly as it should be. That's what the movies all Abou- He thinks the movie Russia's through too little too. He's not here so I began. I'm not gonNA and I argue either way because I don't feel that strongly about the fell but again for me one in my top fifteen talk about how a powerful climax and how that all comes together Yeah too quickly for Matt Singer. We can have a battle royale about brave. Sherlock Dying for that would pay for that. We'll put that over on patriotic for films fighting family members and see how many sign ups we get so again. We'll link to matt singers list over at full spotting dot net in our show notes. We'll put our pixar rankings as well not that they are by any means the right rankings or definitive when you look at those top five really even those top ten. I feel like I could shift them around every day and in fact I did shift them. I updated my list back in. What was it? June nineteen when toy story four came out. We talked about that movie on the show. You weren't here. Griffin Newman was here from blank. Check with me and I did watch all four of the films again and that caused me to shift my rankings. Around quite a bit I had toy story two. I think in the second spot. Now it's toy story three toy story two bum back just a little bit to four. So of course we're watching them and watching them closely since I was doing my top five toy story moments that does have an impact so onward middle of the Pack Pixar and. That's still pretty good. It's still good for both of us. 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Bloodshot is also out just saw the trailer for this the other day. Thanks to nanotechnology. Vin Diesel has become a biotech killing machine right. Now we don't plan to see either of those films No I'm convinced. Bloodshot has arrived. Terminator style from the past being. Isn't this like a nine hundred ninety? Something Vin diesel move deals like it right in limited release first cow discussed earlier in the show recommended highly by both of us. Next week we will share our top five nineteen thirties. Films Are Starter. Pack for the best films of that decade and we'll discuss a potential contender nineteen thirty. Four's of Human Bondage starring Bette Davis. It's the first movie in Bette Davis Marathon film spotting is produced by Golden. Joe Disown and Sam van. Halden without San Golden Joe. This show wouldn't go. Our production assistant is Cat Sullivan. Thanks also Candice Griffiths and the listeners of the film Spotting Advisory Board and special thanks to everyone at wbz. 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49ers are building something special
"Another man I am doing well although I am I am so envious of of what you get to do every week when you get to go do these games for Fox it's the stink in truth podcast with Marc Schleyer hey welcome into the podcast mark slurred longside might get Scott the hub producing the show Michael man how are you the receiver position now they went out and got Emmanuel Sanders but Richie James and Kendrick born weren't GonNa make the football team but they had jalen her got hurt and Taylor got hurt and so they made the football team these guys are playing with and these are the guys are seven Oh with the panthers told me he's the best fullback I've ever seen because of his versatility all the things that he can do in Kyle used chick and so it's interesting to be able to call an offense and to take some of those deficiencies or some of those weaknesses and hide them with the way you call the office because of the way they call an offense they also lost the best football are the best fullback in all football and one defensive coach from the Carolinas who got hurt in in the preseason so they still have started last several weeks they've started their fourth and fifth offense of tackles let get this these are two guys that weren't going to make the football team they weren't GonNa make it in August and all of a sudden because of injuries these guys are teams play the most to back football are the three teams that are as good as any teams in all the national football league. Isn't that amazing kind of interesting you doc question about it it's amazing when the coaches and the front office are all in sync and the players are in sync the players. Dan is a brilliant play caller cow Shanahan he doesn't call plays he calls an offense any sets guys up and that's so I am talking to a guy pre-game the place for the forty niners and he said Cows Shannon is the best we have Friday meeting now get this a Friday meeting Ritchie and like week three they lost him who's a first round of the place right tackle for them they lost their swing tackle who your your time spent with the forty niners and then watching them go out and play the way that they did last week I mean this this team is building something special yeah there's well there's about this here's a team that lost a first rounder in his thirteenth year who still an outstanding offensive tackle Joe Staley I think we to they lost him McGee using it's amazing what you can do Mike and like I'm not saying that they're not talented football team because they are an exceptionally talented football team but there are still lie in to what the philosophical approaches into what they're being coached to do when you've got complete total organizational buying it's the undefeated patriots the undefeated San Francisco Forty niners and the six into Minnesota Vikings you know that those are the three teams that play more to back formations than any team is in in football throwback to nineties nineteen ninety s football you know this new wave of three wives and we got throat every down the teams that run it the most and the interceptions right now so I think that's what it is nine hundred seventy ships yeah but it's all about the quarterback play right it's all about Oh like Karl Shannon it's like let me just take you through this team who's sitting at seven and our right now one of the only undefeated teams by the way you know three the best teams in football are on the football team right one guy got up by different practice squad the other guy made it as swing tackle because of third swing tackle got her like that's where they are right now oh by the way were we sit down as an offense cow takes us through a game plan and says hey listen this playwright here that we're going running worthy shit we're going to get to yours on this place so just trust me when I call this play I know I'm calling it and I know it's not going to be great and I know put you guys in a bad position but it's going to set this up you know that's about it like you know we have a breakout it may be four yards but it's a two yard play and it really isn't worth Shit but listen this is why I'm running it else within this football team that's why they went out and traded for Emmanuel Sanders you know I mean like I look at the San Francisco Forty niners right now and there's a couple of things loves the love going back to the idea that all starts up front don't you in a league where I in a fan in fandom out there where everybody is consumed with the quarterback you're like nope still all about what happens upfront it's all about who wins in the trenches and in real I mean think about it. San Francisco's undefeated their quarterback has seven no nine hundred ninety s and four plays later or a quarter later and he goes this player I've talked to goes you get total and complete vying every guy on the roster it's buying and then you look at them defensively and what Roberts all is doing keep it simple stupid they play probably maybe as much zone or choose much zone coverage as any team in the league. They've got a devastating defensive line where they've got first rounder that went out and got in national twenty twenty five snaps a game guy like they are dominating but they are dominating the the line of Scrimmage on defense that football team so like it's fascinating to watch what they're doing and they're gonNA get healthy they're getting their guys back Staley will probably Vac Thursday night they'll get relegated Sam Solomon Thomas who was the third world pick in two thousand seventeen to a rotation them but I think I think the forty niners have a legitimate chance they're making a legitimate case to be a championship caliber football team boy and because this play if I run it a couple times it's going to set up this play action and we're going to get a shock yardage play in the passing game that's GonNa get us twenty two and and they are they are playing well on the line of scrimmage on offense a lot of that is because either they've got good players but a lot of that is because the way they're coaching and and then you know mcglinchey scheduled come back I think November eleventh so they're getting they're getting their players back and and as is out early Mike and doesn't get drafted and so you know he's a he's a free agent and he's bounced around has been cut a couple of times he's actually plan be moved around and being granted the chance to move around well yeah I mean I think there's a lot of guys interception all season long three in that game I believe but you know Kyle Allah was the number one rated quarterback coming out of high school in the nation. I mean the number one quarterback so they're gonNA be a tough team and what they did defensively over the course of the off season going out and getting the two Smith guys off the edge has been really beneficial and those guys get drafted high those guys have great value right and then there's the guys who come out that think that hey maybe I could be a first rounder and the nation and then he bounced around in college you got beat out and a couple of different things and then he goes to Houston he plays pretty well delivers Houston he who have been able to kind of set the tone guys like Jalen Ramsey get like if you're an elite level player if you're the best at your position and your coveted that way Alana Panthers right and he's had a pretty good you know the San Francisco game notwithstanding which was kind of an interesting game and he got beat up quite a bit in there he hasn't thrown in quarterback quarterback the quarterback there are other ways the colts are doing it with their attention to detail on the offensive line and here they are even though they had a flat performance in a in a win over the So you know I mean that's that's mostly what I have gotten I'm I'm sure there's some people out there like here's one it comes to stop and your feet and and you know and and whining and complaining and getting your way so you you made some headlines Literally pretty good football right now but you know there's there is you have to understand kind of where you are pecking order and just because you know you stop feet doesn't mean that you're GonNa get what you want I mean if you're an elite level player you probably have more leverage and more power than you've ever had in this league out there very well or not because sometimes I get fairly passionate and a little bit pissed off you know about kind of where the broncos ours a franchise eight Gerald friend John Elway and and you're on F s one and you were asked about John Elway whether or not you believe that elway can turn around the Broncos we thought there'd be a lot more but what what what what's your overall view as a former player about where the league is now at when it comes to players have made some headlines no with your blunt candid but let's be honest honest criticism of euro team but for everybody else there's you know there's the kind of a sliding scale of justice if you're not the best player at your position you don't have that same type of Gravitas we got asked a question a pointed question about do I think John Elway can fix it and you know the whole premise of of my thought process whether I'd laid it out you're not you're not close in the fact that you won't admit it and the fact that you make moves that to me are an admission that you think I think that you probably have that opportunity it's like the college kids that come out early you know like the college kids that come out early that are the best at their position but though the whole reason you know I say no is because you're on willingness to to at least publicly announce that you guys are not very good because like we're really close and maybe we'll need that fifty third guy on special teams or maybe we'll need you know riddick to come off the Alamein most people who follow the Broncos broncos country in general said you know have basically said you're right you know I mean we appreciate your honest indeed Ford Armstead's first rounder buckner is a first rounder Nick boasts a first rounder. All Its delegated it's relegated excuse me in games you're the third guy on your roster away from winning game stop it like let's let's stop the charade play and so like when you talk about credibility within a locker room and you got a guy who in the world and you said flat out no and that has gained traction and it is gone viral and I'm curious kind of reaction you're hearing for people art and yet every week he starts for you and puts your quarterback in peril and then the same people who are making that decision are telling they have the realization of you know you know it didn't really work out for you like for instance collins playing quarterback for the Ronco but you know they're they are at at five and two and and and still playing well trade deadline came and went and it came with a bit of a whimper and so you know and I get frustrated when I see a guy who I think is one of the worst tackles in football can commit sport of meritocracy you have a guy that hasn't earned what he's earned his being cut that's what he's earned he's earned a bus ticket home that's what he's Australia for most Bronco fans to sit there and say why do we can continue to hear you know were were right in this thing we're we're like I R. and set the world on fire catching balls out of the back like like come on like your one roster play away from from winning so okay you don't think he's the guy to turn the broncos around that's your opinion what do you think actually happens at the end of the day March lert loves the organization he sounds like the most Fr- most frustrated fans of broncos country we love John Elway but enough is enough there's been cure close I and I'll give you for instance they've got a kid drew lock they draft in the second round Mike and drew lock was eligible come off Vr week six then to do the Bronco does the broncos organization does the broncos defacto owner which is a guy by the name of Joe Ellis who who is part of a trust that is currently running the Broncos do they agree with you do they do they make a change or as blunt as you are right now oh just just a reminder of the different ways that you can you know try to go out and build a win bill the football team and then it's not all just about you know the values check so they seem to be in the NFC in your mind they are really they're really solid I mean I eat obviously the the packers have a Unicorn plant enough going on in Denver and in regards to ownership and everything else said that they're not going to make a change so you know it's awesome when they win and you see what they're putting out the product they're putting out right now it's embarrassing without a doubt the most interesting game inhabitation does status quo remain in Denver Oh yeah I think the status quo remains I mean I think there's already a lineup of tomato cans that they've been knocking off here and secondly are are the Ravens legit how do you see it New England at Baltimore Patriots are about a field goal field goal and a half favourite yeah I mean I based on I don't know based on what based on fear based on you know whatever the case may be so I don't I don't think anything change you know and the answer honestly not even close to being congruent and and that's what you're asking your players to put up with right now yeah because why they said hey listen they said landry Ob Jay you're not ah you know we believe we're going to compete we believe we can I know you can't you're you're rosters not good enough and like that's I think it's how everybody on the team is like if I played that way I'd be benched or I because and yet every week he goes out and gets the uh-huh propped up and I've talked to multiple guys who have reached out to me on this team talking about their left tackle Garrett Bowles and and that you look at the New England patriots here's what I know about Bill Belichick Bill Bill check is GonNa say Lamar Jackson if you're going to beat
#145 Solo Episode- Push your cognitive capabilities to their limit with the Deep Work strategy
"They got to their with Sean. Delaney Sean Delaney on this episode Sean covers his strategies for achieving extraordinary results salts that strategy is deep work which is also the title of a must read book by Cal Newport whom Sean had learned this technique from deep work is the ability to focus without distraction on cognitively demanding task. It's a skill Oh that allows you to quickly master complicated information and produce a better results in less time who doesn't want to do that. Deep work will make you better at what you do in provide the sense of true fulfillment that comes from craftsmanship so get ready to unleash this superpower superpower. Hey Guys I wanna tell you about the brand. I'm obsessed with right now and you guys know. I'm pretty obsessive about the brands I work with especially when it comes to athletic apparel. You guys need to check out ten thousand. You need to head to ten one thousand dot C._B._C. and you guys can enter code W._G.. Y. 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Whether you're busy running the kids around from activity do activity a professional athlete or just someone looking for great tasting convenience stack do yourself a favor had debt MC tico dot com and use code W._G.. Y T for twenty percent off your order. Have you ever wondered why they're times. When in a couple of hours you you seem to accomplish more in that short amount of time that you do during the entire rest of your week if so there's good chance you're performing what the author and Computer Science Professor Cow Newport coined as deep work in two thousand Sixteen Calvert the best selling book deep work rules for Focus success in a distracted world? This book has been instrumental in how I go about my productivity and my work cal has defined the term deep work as professional activity performed in a State of distraction free concentration that push your cognitive capabilities Thir- limit these efforts create new value improve your skill and are hard to replicate if you're like most host the bus then is likely isn't the former work that naturally fills your day on the contrary. If you aren't intentional about how you spend your time your work our slip away towards activities that newport refers to as shallow work these are non cognitively demanding logistical style tasks often perform while distracted these efforts tend to not create new value in the world and are easy to replicate the ability to perform deep work is becoming increasingly rare air at exactly the same time that's becoming increasingly valuable in our economy by going over some of cal strategies and what I do personally. I'm hoping we all can become better at deep work. You can use this as a guide but remember everyone situation. Situation and circumstances are different after listening. I highly recommend you checking out. Cows book deep work. I we need to learn how to practice deep work. Many of us have forgotten how to focus deeply on a single task or never really learn to in the first place in school. You may have done well enough by practising mostly shallow work on a day-to-day basis with the occasional def- work session when you would cram for that final tests yes. We've all done it before. Learning learning how to practice deep work requires you to be more intentional than you ever been in sitting down regularly to concentrate on high impact tasks. These strategies will help you select your preferred form of deep work build a routine routine from scratch and provide operating principles and tactics for embracing the power of directed focus. So how do we choose our deep work strategy while you may be convinced that the value deep work you may be unsure of how to implement it in your own life Newport describes four different types of deep work scheduling you can choose from remember that everyone is different so figure out which one works best for you and your lifestyle. The first is the monastic. Asked philosophy a deep work scheduling it's the most dedicated form of deep work and involves spending all of your working hours on a singular high level focus while this philosophy has the highest potential for award and the lowest level of context switching. It's unrealistic for most people who are required to perform various kinds of work in their role it also blocks the potential for new opportunities as you default response to commitments that arise are no I can't do that. The BI I moto philosophy deport scheduling is the next one and this allows for high amount of deep work while enabling you to maintain other activities in your life that you find valuable successfully adopting this philosophy requires the flexibility to arrange arrange your year months or weeks as you see fit in larger chunks of deep work based on my life I float between this and then the next philosophy which is the rhythmic philosophy of deep work scheduling and it's ideal for individuals Joel's with a fairly static schedule if you can anticipate what most of your days will look like it's feasible to block off several hours every day for deep work there by getting into a daily rhythm and leaving the rest of your hours for shallow work the final one is journalistic philosophy deport scheduling and this is an option for people who are constantly on the move with little to no regularity to their days this method demands vigilance with your time and the keen ability to notice the natural ebbs and flows in your day where you might be able to fit in thirty minutes or an hour to deep work. Unfortunately this method is not for beginners and is likely to fail for people who are not experienced in d work so this all sounds sounds great but how do you actually build deep work into your routine. I is going to be location chooses space. That's distraction free and conducive the long periods of focus in the absence of such a location opt for or something such as noise canceling headphones or something that will just quite your environment more. This is key to let your brain no. It's time to focus try to be consistent with your environment. Being familiar with your environment is key next step's GonNa be duration before you start a deep work session determine precisely how much time you'll have to vote to the task ahead start small this might be fifteen minutes to half hour and work your way up longer sessions your ability to focus will improve as you flex your deep work muscle third is going to be structure set structure for yourself and define what deep work mode looks like for instance. Will your cell phone be off will be on would let yourself check the Internet. Can you get to grab a drink. All these little things will impact so it's important no going into it. Whatever your rules make them explicit and follow them for the duration of your deep work session? The fourth is going to be requirements moments after a few sessions of focused work. You'll learn what you require to support your commitments deep work. This may include a specific type of music. You listen to your favorite beverage. Maybe it's a certain sent late in candle always have everything you need before. Diving in the last thing you want to be doing is jumping up a few minutes into this because you forgot something so what about all those projects that must be completed but you just don't have the motivation and feel constrained by your current setup cal suggests implementing a grand gesture. He defines a grand gesture as leveraging a radical change two year natural environment couple. Perhaps with significant investment of effort or money all all dedicated towards supporting deep work task you increase the perceived importance of the task. If you remember former guests Greg McEwen he brought up doing a personal quarterly offsite in a remote location away from distractions another popular tactic is something that Bill Gates does with his famous think week this is where he spends two weeks alone at his cottage twice a year reading and thinking solely about the future Microsoft while writing Harry Potter J._K.. rollings Brennan Expensive Hotel Room to negate distractions and one of my favorite authors Simon cynic he would actually book airline tickets just to Right Yup. He booked ticket. Get on the plane get into deep work land at his destination grab coffee jump back on a return flight for more deep work so you're saying what have you don't have control of your schedule well. If you report to a manager in office why not open up those lines communication and see if you can work from home for a week something along those lines by alerting your mind to the importance of a task through changing your regular routine you'll access your ability to work deeply and more readily something that may seem counterintuitive. The deep work is working collaboratively with others prioritizing deep work often means working alone however working with others can unleash the power of serendipitous creativity that we often can't generate by ourselves. Luckily committing deep work practice doesn't mean we'll be unable to reap the benefits of collaboration on the contrary they feed into one another beautifully time spent learning from others can be exploited more depth once we're alone in deep work mode owed the mistake lies in attempting to combine the two as often the justification behind open floor offices so you're listening to this and saying Great Sean but how can we create more actionable takeaways for my business well in Deep Work Newport introduces us the concepts laid out the four disciplines of execution achieving your wildly important goals while intended for companies. These strategies are also valuable to consider as an individual discipline number one and focus on the wildly important director effort to your most important goals during your deep work hours. Keep your biggest objectives at the forefront of your mind to make it easier to ignore distractions that don't serve your long-term goals. Roles try using sticky notes on your desk that list out your top priority so you don't forget him disciplined number to act on the lead measures while you can attempt to maximize your lagging measure example the total number of pages you trying to read it may be more valuable optimize for your lead measures example the number of our spent writing deep work by increasing the number of hours. You spend per week in a state of focused concentration. You'll naturally naturally beenish strong position to accomplish what you set out to do. Discipline Number three keep a compelling scoreboard Yup you WanNa keep count of how many hours you spend in deep work mode and display. You're tracking somewhere visible his bowl to keep you motivated newport suggests keeping pen and paper tallied how many hours you spend on deep work alternatively. You can automate your scoreboard with many tracking tools that are available online such as rescue time discipline number four create a cadence of accountability. You need to commit to daily or weekly reviews of your progress checking on your scoreboard and assess why you may be falling short of the goals you've set if you're exceeding them with ease. He's trying to push yourself a little bit further. If you're one of those people who can never stop checking those emails at night or always distracted by work listen up it is time for you to prioritize downtime. Yes prioritized advertised downtime. Newport provides compelling reasons why working long hours without downtime can be detrimental to deep work practice making downtime. A priority is key because it regularly rest your brain and improve the quality of your deep work. Downtime improves are thinking. Have you ever hit a roadblock in your work ended the day in frustration only to come back the next day with a perfectly formed solution. This is the power of pause allowing in your mind to rest. Let you work through complex challenges with greater clarity than if you powered on empty as Newport notes providing your conscious brain time to rest enables your unconscious mind to take shift sorting through your most complex professional challenges downtime replenishes our ability to practice deep work deep work makes the case that you can restore your ability to direct your attention. If you give this activity arrest after work doc don't direct your attention to high priority tasks instead. Give your mind uninterrupted rest through activities like gathering with friends family cooking walking in nature something my wife and I love to do is we enjoy cooking dinner with our son while listening some I'm great jazz music and then going after dinner walk if you're one of those people who are always trying to sneak in those extra emails stop it. Give your mind some rest. Our ability for deep work is finite unfortunately as valuables deep work is it can't be done in a limited quantity. I wish I could but it can't newport suggests. The upper limit for deep work per day is four hours beyond this or ability to direct focused attention diminishes given even this. There's plenty of time in the evening to make room for downtime that will serve your deep work sessions. The following day a great tool many business leaders uses implementing a shutdown ritual each day. This signals that your work is done for the day this might be closing your computer turning off your lights and shutting the door to your office. Whatever it is for you make sure you set up this shutdown routine and this ritual each day so is deep work even possible in two thousand nineteen gene with this hyper connected social media obsessed culture absolutely and I would argue? It's even more important because of that. Let's go through some of the ways you can enhance your ability to do deep work how often often you start your day with the best intentions to knock out some of those big daunting tasks on your to do list only to look up at the end of the day and you didn't seem to get anything done because of all of those distractions distractions are the enemy of Deep Work Newport makes this important point efforts to deepen your focus will struggle if you don't simultaneously Wean your mind from a dependence on distraction. Here's some tactics to help your ability to concentrate for long periods of time. Remember these are not easy and take a lot of time and effort. I make focus your default note. As a general rule newport suggests the following schedule in advance Nance when you'll use the internet and then avoid it all together outside these times rather than switching back and forth between distraction work lower your ability to perform the ladder keep off distracting websites and APPS for for a predetermined amount of time simply put make offline year default here several strategies to help improve your focus and get better at resisting distractions. You can set a block of time to answer emails rather than living in your inbox all day something I used to do and I'm so thankful I stopped doing that. Another is if you get stuck in need to go online to check something. Resist the urge and carry on with deep work or switch to another all fine activity another block off time online even while you're at home next great step is add the pressure of time one strategy that can help intensified deep work is imposing time limits on yourself these time limits should stretch your bills but not be impossible to accomplish for instance. You might guess that researching the market for comparable prices on a commercial real estate project will take round three hours well. This strategy proposes that you give yourself an hour and a half instead in the presence of smaller time windows were focused leverage deep concentration to finish the task in a race against the clock. We utilize every strategy outer disposal to improve. Prove our efficiency Newport described this interval training for the attention centers of your brain. Another one is make space for deep thinking rather than using the time we spend folding laundry doing being the dishes we usually listen to podcasts audiobook phone call would cal actually suggest is spending two or three times per week in a state of productive meditation during this time contemplate and work through challenging challenging problem. This practice helps you improve your ability to think deeply and direct your attention while ignoring distraction. I'm quoting CAL here. The goal of productive meditation is to take appeared in which you're occupied right physically but not mentally walking jogging driving showering and focus your attention on a single well-defined professional problem. Whenever your mind starts to escape this huge just WanNa slowly think back to that problem problem you're trying to solve for? This is similar to a muscle like you would exercise say you're BICEP. You're going to do more bicep curls your and get stronger same thing with this memory muscle speaking of memory practice memory games working on your memory is yet another tactic newport recommends to prime your mind for deep work. The focus that memorization requires is beneficial when it comes time to sit down and direct your focus towards an important task at work as Newport report notes a side effect of memory training is an improvement in your general ability to concentrate so here are few memory enhancing exercises to try practice memorizing deck of cards if you want help with this go back to the episode with U._S._A.. Remember champion Nelson Dallas another thing you can do learn a song or poem by Heart Starts Small. Make it simple for yourself. You can also commit a list of words in a foreign language to memory or look over your bookshelf and try to remember that that stack of books so now it's time to eliminate digital distractions. I know guys this is going to be hard. Especially in the hyper connected Social Media World War in while priming our minds to prioritize focuses effective eliminating distractions altogether can be even more powerful in developing a deep work practice while some of the digital tools we use her obvious distractions there many that exists in a gray area they take time away from high leverage activities but can also provide huge benefits for instance time spent scrolling through twitter which is something I do all too often can be wasteful and stretch on for hours. If we're not careful however it is also where I learned a great deal and discover many books the articles like read and cows new book digital minimalism. He goes into number ways to help with this. 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S2E8: Daisy and Alice
"This is the wild oat family. The farm podcast and miriam and we just moved from the bay area to the heart of gold country in california. We left the fast paced silicon valley lifestyle behind nine to find a more meaningful life in the country while raising a new family were developing a homestead and permaculture farm. Come join us on this journey as we share our successes successes and failures and everything in between sir <music> everybody welcome to season two episode eight of the window family farm podcast. I am dan and miriam in case you're just tuning and for the first time we introduce ourselves against and it is the middle of july moving along that happened. Yeah it's picone by real quick real quick so luckily it hasn't been quite as crazy hot as last year so far itself are not no see we might still get into some hundred hundred degree days for a while but hopefully we'll see so yeah just in case you're tuning in and it's been awhile since you heard our last episode we we had a farm update where we talked about our broody hens and how to deal with that and we talked about what's going on with our polit- joining the rest of our flock and about the harvesting we've been doing in the food forest and then we also had a country life segment where we talked about big news. We have dan's parents. It's and sister and brother in law and grandmother have all recently moved to the area so that's been pretty awesome to see him a couple of times so far so it's cool and then we also talked about our run-ins with a rattlesnake and black widow rattlesnakes plural laurel. That's true this episode. We've got another farm update in store because we have news about some new kiko. Does we've got some. Those are coats the way he goes her coat's kiko goats. We got stuff to tell you about mushrooms in about garlic and then home studying segment where we're going to talk about look at quarter cow and about the work that i've been doing revamping some of our outdoor furniture to you ready to go check on the animals. Let's swing by the food forced to awesome. I'd love to grab fresh fruit off. Those fujii's are so good right now so so the big news is that this last weekend we picked up to kiko does to know goats yes. The kiko is a breed of goat that i was really interested in getting back. Only i started looking at goats mainly because they're supposed to be one of the hardiest issed <unk> when we're looking into gopro to of course checked out some books from the library and read online and whatnot it research basic research and there's pretty much one breed that's known as the heartiest breed which is the kiko and the reason that they're known to be so hardy is they have really good parasite resistance which is one of the biggest problems with goats actually even more so than any other room it goats are used to browsing right which means they eat up higher bushes trees that are hanging down stuff like that and so a lot of times people will put goat's in situations where go taft to eat off the ground and there's a lot more parasites on the ground and different parasites thing goes through used to that's trouble for their guts then yeah exactly exactly and so that's really i think the biggest problems that goats and then people also raise goats and a lot of areas that are too wet for goats. We don't really have that from here in california so it's obviously wet during the winter so you have to kinda watch your coats during the winter and make sure they don't pick up too many parasites there but the rest of your it's dry and so again that means not so many parasites we have a little bit of advantage there in california and then also they would not have to be warmed all the time with chemicals. Listen or and or expensive urban warmers constantly have to give them so that looked awesome. The other thing that i really liked about the ky-ko's is that they give birth really well right. They're great mothers. They typically don't need any help and they're able to just go ahead and give birth naturally shirley yeah exactly so those are i think the two main reasons i was interested in kiko coats and then there are pretty good meat breed as well right right right and so the history of the kiko is pretty interesting. It's a pretty new breed was developed in i think eight hundred ninety s in new zealand and the folks who developed it took a bunch of the wild and feral goats that have been living new zealand really hardy they mixed them with few the different breeds of dairy goat and then they're pretty hands off and kind of let the goats live on their own and the ones that thrived really well. They went ahead and kept kept those ones. It didn't look very good. They started calling him and by leading the goats. Kinda go off on their own. I mean they let them for for their own food. They let them breathe on their own. They eleven give birth on their own but then they still managed the flocks enough so that they could form a new breed and so what what they ended up with was this very hardy breed of goats that can mostly live on its own has very high parasite resistance can breed on its own and generally is a low maintenance and that's what we now have two new. Yes yes so that's why we wanted them for. Our farm is our our farm philosophies. It not like to put a whole bunch of effort to every little thing and to what's the word ticket <unk>. I guess to give support to wherever it is growing yeah like to be as hands off as possible to have things that flourish and do well with minimal intervention shen yeah absolutely we should write that down yeah good slogan parenting philosophy as well yeah i mean and it works because us the week ones you just let them strong. This drug woods you courage. A little bit turns out fine fine now for plants animals. Maybe yes so we also want to mimic nature as much as we can right and a lot lot of human intervention is not making nature in i think in cases when the animal really needs it then what else you do right right but that's why we're trying to slick deals. Don't need so many anyway so these kiko dose are so far awesome they on their very very friendly friendly although there are also so they're bottle fed which means when they see us when i see people they think oh mama which means that if you walk walk out of the front of the house and they see you but you don't come over to them at least so far they give you an earful start crying and yeah i know 'cause. They're really good at it too. I think they're better than ireland was yes. I'd say louder because they can go longer. Yes they almost like seeing a winding. I saw ten seconds worth localized so i think that's the only negative so the the first day or two when they did that. It was like oh my god what's wrong with our new babies and then you go over and see this lonely. They just wanted to see you. It's your yeah i mean they missed their heard yeah and everything but they're getting along pretty well with are the three uncles and with maryland jobs. It's like so. I think they're getting along real well so we got these goats from a farm called unfinished acres. They're up in. I think it's actually greenwood is the address they're a little bit north of georgetown and it's run by becky and mark spencer and i was corresponding with becky mostly about this and she's just really nice lady very knowledgeable very straightforward so we really enjoyed that transaction and everything and and i went and visited their farm. I forget when this was. I think it was roberto. March who's maybe march and they showed me around showed me what they do with the goat's talk to me about their philosophy. They do a lot of great stuff. They test their hurts. Every year. I believe maybe even more if if they need to make sure that there's no diseases do real well vaccinations and then they managed the worming on as needed basis <music>. Some people decide to warm all the time which is not great. You just are essentially breeding super worms. If you do that you know you need to wait until the the worm population gets out of control in a certain goat and then you can go ahead and treat just that goat and they do that in conjunction with vet visits occasionally occasionally i think as well to check on the goats and get a second opinion about the warming so very happy with <hes> becky spencer and unfinished acres and so we talked to them about bringing the goats home and had introduce them to the rest of the goatherd and i've read about this and how a lot of people think you need to be very careful when you're introducing into it slowly watch and make sure they don't hurt each other and everything and i think maybe this is just with folks that have two small of pens wonder introducing right goats to each other. None have space for something. Thanks yeah i mean this is what we noticed with our chickens in santa clara versus here right where in santa clara they would pick it each other. You know just much meaner yeah. They really were to each other just for what we could tell no reason everything seemed fine and we were totally within the space limits that the internet it says susceptible internet's always right so we thought this was fine but now when we've moved here we've noticed while chickens really do enjoy lot more space and they get along a lot better much better more space because then if someone's bugging somebody you just move away yeah exactly why your space faced away you know and so i think the same thing is with goats. We've got somewhere around third of an acre paddock the they're all in so we ask in mark for advice on introducing goats and they said well you know it's better if you have a fence in between them so that they can kind of get to know each other first and then. There's not much you can do at it. They're gonna fight a little bit and establish pecking order <unk> hap- so that's pretty much what's been happening but without much fighting it hasn't been bad at all the three uncles that are definitely the dominant of our goats. The three male weather's can have komo weather three weather's during tours ninety who our weather's they are all kind of clearly the top top of the order so it's almost like they're like whatever they seem to really care yeah yeah maryland i think is the only one who was a little like hey what's what's cool. You let me make sure you know i'm i'm higher in the order of things than you are. Yes says she did some. They do this thing where they rear up on their hind two legs and and then kind ben their head to the side like getting ready to go in for a bill headbutt and mellon's done that a couple times. I'm not sure if she really made contact with them shooter but not you know it's interesting part of knowing a whole lot about livestock doc. I had this opinion that all animals in the wild when they faced off they like marked off fifty paces stared at each other and then just charged and butted heads as hard as they could write which turns out to be true for sheep goats goats do this thing like you're describing rep on their back legs and so the other goat has to kind of engage in order for them to release both hit heads because the first goat it is up on its hind legs and then it's kind of this like downward into the side talking about motion so you know it's fairly easy to avoid that right because just don't put your move and so that's mostly the two little those were doing so yes. Maryland tried to do a lot but i think i think just her doing it near them taught them though like our cheese higher in the pecking order sheets i but let's pick and they have gotten headbutted a few times pretty well cookie. He's he's he is. He's kind of the enforcer. He's still had but saying every once in a while to feels like it anyway. Otherwise it's been fine we did keep them inside the barn for twenty four hours and then we let them out just so that they would know okay. This is their new home. This is kind of like little safe-space their goats maybe and so that's also also where we feed them so i wanted to get that established and then the second night we put them back in their feed them and that worked well because then they got to eat all their feet last night. I went ahead and opened their stall probably a little earlier than i should have big. Maybe lack half their food and i didn't get any more gates can't goats came in and pushed him away so oh well but i'll give him some more food today. Make make sure to eat enough and so we named him daisy and alice yes and they just really are daisy analysis yeah i don't. I thought of naming the first one daisy just because she's pure white. I end d._c.'s white daisies like accu- female male name and then for some reason alice just goes really well. Take does stay thin on a war. It just seems right yeah. They're so sweet yeah yeah those are in uconn yeah and so we've mentioned this before but the plan for the ky-ko's is to breed them and start raising a you know small flocks so that we can both eat those goats because kiko is a meat breed and we'll also use them to continue clearing land right so we've got a lot of clearing to so we will probably keep a couple full as we go along and let them grow to to a full size but we'll probably also eat a good amount of offspring and i also was talking to mark it can becky about reading and i mentioned that i didn't want how a buck on the farm and i thought artificial insemination might be a good idea and they looked at me like i was was crazy from what they were describing sounded like. Artificial insemination was real complicated and also. I guess you can't always tell really twelve win. Goats are in heat which i was surprised. I was under the impression that almost all livestock you. You could tell you could have a pretty good indication but <hes> becky was saying that you can't even need to do like a hands on japan's on check. Yeah describe it so that's not great. If you're gonna wanna do artificial insemination so we'll have to see how it goes. They're also saying that you could get a bottle baby buck wow and then he should be really friendly with you. Knock it angry. Try and take you out when he's in a rut. I've heard other folks have a different opinion and so i don't know what will think also when our kids are so young makes me wary of keeping the buck around but we'll think about we'll look into it and we've got a little time to decide yeah so although goats can start reproducing it like i think the males can start reproducing producing it four or five months. Yeah i know right and i don't know how early does can start breeding wife find out. There are already two months old so it's probably not that long before we start breeding <unk>. We'll see but pretty exciting. Signing hang are pretty happy with now. We've got what are really the seeds offer goatherd yeah we sure do so. We'll keep folks. Updated it on how things go with goats and hopefully it'll be a lot of yeah. You've been doing some garlic harvesting this last. I have <hes> <unk>. Dan's been reminding me 'cause the thing with garlic is that you see the stock going up of course as the garlic is growing and it's a nice green strong shoot shoot and then at some point it starts to turn yellow and fall over and when it's falling over that's how you know it's ready to be harvested so <hes> <hes> this is what i'm not sure if we'd mentioned this in a previous episode or not but something like six or seven or eight months ago oh dan went around with cloves of garlic that we've gotten from the grocery store and just stuck them in the match all over the place that it in a few of them. I may be put in some soil think yeah maybe phenomena small some were just placed in the just placed in the mall and so kind none of like on top of dirt but under mulch right exactly and so then i came around to all the garlic that was falling over and just pulled it <music> out and it came up super easy because of course it had been mulch. Men are guy okasha something like fifteen. I should count again like fifteen heads of garlic. Some of them are real big and impress them so then i did but you only harvest about half our liquor last june. I did about half of it okay. You're still noticed him out yeah yeah. I think i'm about halfway through this waiting for the rest of really do it's all over trick trick but yeah and so then i did some research about breeding garlic because you always see those pretty garlic braids hanging in like fancy pictures xers of fancy kitchen are rustic italian something. I don't know it just seems like the thing to do if you got fifteen heads garlic so so i looked up instructions and did some garlic braiding and well. I called a good first effort. That's for sure she and great yeah yeah. It's not quite like the picture in my head but it makes me happy every time i see it hanging there beautiful picture works fine but it's all right and i think i could have done a better job of snipping. You're supposed to cut the roots off of the headed garlic. You don't wanna go to close or else. It'll expose some garlic and it won't <hes> dry cure properly procuring. Maybe just dry anyway won't drive on its drawing or carrying korea and so the instructions i found online where are find all my information was to put the garlic in someplace. That's well ventilated and dark and cool and i don't have any place. It's all three of promoting roussell. Yeah we'll get there but in our laundry room that's where the air conditioning <hes> intake vent and fan i suppose on so that's good ventilation elation and it's cool still kinda well lit but but i think they'll do find so i've got our garlic jets directs on their way from window or anything so they should do all right some of the garlic. I just took fresh insert cooking with men. It's been super tasty our eggs and stuff like that. It's been great so for for and the really interesting thing i thought was that it's purple yes and that is the <hes> sort of like the last little bit of garlic alec skin before you get to the garlic clove is purple the actual garlic itself as normal garlic colored yeah yeah you're right man sorry i. I didn't mean that the actual garlic itself is purple. I met the papery skin skin. Yes this purple so. I was amazed by this. Yes i didn't expect it because but are like we bought was all white right and so what that tells me. Is that the crock you. The grocery store is growing in like the worst possible soil because what we grew it in was not good soil. I literally put it in the mall ch- no no fertilizer. We just let it rain yeah right. We never even wanted for anything and we get this garlic that has i think the purple means it. It has a lot of homicide in it. Which i think is one of the main beneficial compounds in garlic so we get this great garlic with purple skin skin looks great taste great and almost zero effort this about the lowest possible amount of effort. You put into growing garlic back to our guiding philosophy hike. We were talking about with keith yeah. Exactly i mean we're going to keep onus worked perfectly so yeah and then when the other cool things i said i'm excited about is we're gonna start growing mushrooms so i ordered from far west guy which you can find them online and i think they had a good selection and everything that prices reasonable and we're pretty close to us. I think there were somewhere outside of monterey so i want a sport a local business back back and went ahead and bought kingston fauria lion's mane and i think a red oyster mushroom room spawn from them. The kings <unk> came in sawdust spun and then the other two plugs so the other to the lion's mane the oyster all go ahead. Put the plugs folks in some oak that ana eventually trimmed this year and since king for years and sawdust. It's really from mixing with other sawdust or mulch so we bought a long time ago. I didn't use it because the most positive we have pretty much become overtaken by the dog vomit scott. It's the mushroom and it's kind of interesting. The fruiting body of the mushroom looks like this yellow us dod vomit yeah so anyway so that's been popping up in our mulch and it's not really a problem. It's breaking breaking down the mulch <unk> third soil so that's fine but if you want to introduce a new mushroom to it since that one is already soap stablishment. It's unlikely that this new mushroom you introduce this going to thrive and everything so this last week we got another delivery of march and this is a great delivery mulch was huge huge first of all and then it's a lot of wood chips but it's also a lot of the branches and leaves which is really great couple times. We've gotten deliveries greece that are almost like playground wood chips. You know which is great for a playground but it does not have as much organic material. That's going to break down yeah. Yeah i mean. How do i say that bio-diversity on yeah. What's the it's it's too much pure carbon right right when you also have leaves and twigs yes i think lincoln and a few other substances there will to break down a little bit easier do still have some nitrogen right so this should great better soil and now that it's been inoculated with king for your mushrooms. It should really make good soil because the kings for fauria is really good at soil building and and they also produced beautiful edible mushroom so i'm looking forward yeah so i took the sawdust spawn broke it up into like maybe you know five different sections or something stuff that in the mulch pile and just kinda all around and then watered it a bunch for a couple of days so we'll see hopefully that really takes off and does well and then we're gonna distribute this mulch around the food forest as well right right so it's going to be excellent pop so they'll pop up in you know places throughout the food forest and then also it'll people soil for us martial king stra fauria also wa king stood for it's also called the wind cap mushroom because does it look sort of this whiny color. The whole top is kind of this dark bergische and now the variety that supposed to be particularly good for when you're first growing your own mushrooms to eat because it's easy for you to recognize yes. It is very unmistakable yeah so we're not gonna accidentally eat among restrooms. No we should we shouldn't it should be very easy to tell which are the white cat mushrooms which are not so you know. We're going to be looking for expecting these motions. We haven't had any mushrooms. Pop up the look anything like that so let's go get klay so i'll eat the first one and then you guys can all watcher. I'm still vertical before you eat excellence but yeah it's exciting. I i think it's gonna work out well. Maybe that's it for our farm up date and time for the home. Study craigslist performed the homestay okay oh <music> on the <music> mm-hmm so you wanna talk about the cow or the furniture first furniture. Let's talk about the furniture. This has been exciting for me because when we moved here one of the things that was most exciting i think is the deck that is attached to the back of the house because it's nice big deck and you can see the view out on tour burland. So of course that makes it. You know that's a place where you want to be in you want to be comfortable while the table and chairs patio furniture the church that we had we actually inherited from my parents who inherited it from my grandfather who bought it second hand at a garage sale sometime. I'm probably in the fifties so this was definitely made to last indefinitely was aged. I think originally it it's metal and glasses the table and the chairs are what what's that echo some type of plastic webbing wedding plastic woven something anyhow how the metal had been painted like a pale pale green originally i think it was a real killer green that faded deloitte wojtek almost why in its chipped it was just awful and so i did some work with sanding and cleaning and then then i bought some restore liam spray paint and i painted the table read i did that chairs in like a very pale turquoise and i have some new cushions that are paisley-patterned that draws both the red and the blue and some other tan another colors and now it makes makes me so happy every day and said that looks good. It looks new yeah. No it does doesn't look like oh there's crummy chairs and a bright color summer inviting on our a brown dex yeah yeah and so that was sort sort of the that was the beginning for me because then i thought well if i can do this then my gosh so i picked up from also. I just want to mention you spent how much money on oh yeah stolen each like five or six dollars can yeah five or six bucks a can and i had to do about batte camp per chair and to remove that's alive that wasn't quite as cheap as i would like but but still give give a chair new life so yeah so somewhere around thirty bucks. We have nice looking patio furniture. That's pretty good awesome rather than hundreds of store right right exactly that's pretty good <hes> and so then that motivated me so that when i was at the thrift store i saw some old crazy outdoor plastic chairs. They were like three bucks. A pop are bought for those and then i've since painted one <hes> a bright yellow although i tried to a usa same rasta liam paint and it didn't it didn't cover as well as i liked and what i remembered then was that dan had purchased a paint sprayer partly for painting our barn man so i thought well maybe what i ought to do is use paint in the paint sprayer and then i can do a better job and not be paying six dollars per kim for stolen paint and so i picked up some new yellow paint i already had a can of sort of like a what do you call that pink that i have. It's not like a bubblegum pink colour yeah or think you caught soon salmon yeah salmon pink so i've done the pink chair already so now when you look out sort of placed to chairs <hes> under under a tree that's just off of our deck so it looks like a nice place to go and sit and sometimes i do go and sit long to really never lets not sit for but very pleasant so that's been exciting cool yeah and then what's your long term plan for irish yeah. I want to just keep doing n._s. Because we have so much land <hes> and i feel like one way that you can take advantage of it is if there's sort of purposeful places assists to go and sit and be and some people liked plop down on the ground but if you have a chair or a bench here and there i think it's gonna make a big difference so i'm just gonna gonna keep my eyes peeled whenever i met through store and it kind of outdoor furniture that i think i can give a little fresh life to pick-up bring home and possum good idea. It'll be great if we've got. I don't know a couple dozen places around the property. Yea should have a different view of things yeah and my hope is that since i'm investing so little in the furniture that if it gets really swept by being <music> out in the sun and the rain and some animals common poop monitor whatever is is not going to matter you know it's not like i bought something nice that i'm worried about keeping yeah totally that's smart. That's the plan and then last thing was our court cal yes so this. This isn't a huge deal. It's not like we did anything but by a cow well however you wanted to mention it to you because it's awesome from mm-hmm we got a cow from lewis cattle company and they're on facebook sleep. You have a page that you can look at if you want and i had heard about them through again. Someone else is on facebook and they're located just right near us here in shingle springs and so i sent dan lewis and email and asked him <unk> management practices and how he raises cattle and everything and it's excellent from what he said they do. Go ahead and give vaccinations which it'd become ridiculous to not vaccinate year your livestock so that's pretty much the only thing he does to the cow is he gives them vaccinations when they're young and and then there graphic from day one until they are ranch slaughtered so no chemicals no oh g._m._o. Feed nothing and then what's wonderful in my opinion with the ranch slaughter where they're you know essentially killed on the farm. Is that at that animal lift its entire life on that farm. It was happy from day one until probably it didn't even know that got shot just drop dead mmediately immediately and that means that animal had no stress toll life so that's excellent and then they took the carcasses down to castle meets which is an eye on which is a little far away but my understanding is the castle meets does a really good job. This is the second time we've picked up meat from the other. One was the heck yeah the pig we got from suzanne punch of dorato into loose which which was put your grill well and castle meets the one that made country big for which we really tries to real although the belly bacon was a little salty but at any rate so far the beef has been excellent. Oh my gosh so it hung for a week then they chopped it up and we brought home somewhere around one hundred and fifty pounds of beef and that's just a quarter of the council goodness. We have the cruiser in the barn. Yes yeah i i think the cows when they're slaughtered or somewhere around a thousand pounds and then the ranch slaughter they essentially take the head off. Take the guts out the cut the hose off and then they skin and bring that in and so our quarter the caught hanging weight was one hundred and eighty five pounds so i'm guessing the council somewhere around one thousand so so we paid five dollars to twenty i five cents a pound of hanging wait to louis cow company and then we paid nine cents a pound per hanging wait to the butcher right so that's so around six twenty five right but then we had about a thirty percent loss of way in yeah when it hangs right so in both there's some moisture loss right when it's hanging and then also as they cut it up they throw some bones away in a little bit of fat way things like that i think so we don't get the full hundred eighty five pounds or so six twenty five at a third to that right that's somewhere around <hes> seven hundred fifty dollars a pound which is incredible for the best quality beef we could get and it's like steaks and scratchy but oh my gosh we haven't had stadium thank you. I should've mentioned that earlier is like what you get in a court cow right yes so there's a ton of ground beef. We got like sixty sixty pounds of crowd. I use it left and right rescues a lot of it and i asked for thirty percent fat grind in their the task. Got charlie loves it so much a little hamburger. The other night ate the entire burger. He's still he's ten months old so he's a little guy still and i kept giving him little bite size bits and he just can't goblin come up. I know somewhere around six. Ah yeah i was probably between a six eighth of a pound in his tiny little burger and we ate the whole thing eight more stuff to yeah. That was his whole he just kept going c._p._i. The crazy especially high quality beef like that yeah just so super high quality beef and then i was going to mention what else we got in there so in addition to the ground beef got few rabbis some top sirloin. We got short ribs. I think i asked for short roads and and we got a couple of roasts. We got a brisket top round roast and so in general it's not like someone took like the front left quarter of count couch side to give that to you which is probably why louis cow company likes going to castle meets as because they did such a good job the cut the whole cow up and then they kind of try and mix and match right and what's interesting too is they're getting different directions from like four different people possibly fli somebody who knows somebody else go to buy like three quarters but anyway it's possible there get instructions from four different people on how thick they wanna cut them. They want you sure you want your stakes cut. How do your ground beef. All seven castle may do meets manages all this for you know very reasonable price so i do a good job yeah so at any rate we're very happy with louis cattle company and also picking up from castle so if you guys are in the el dorado county area and are looking for some incredibly high quality beef loose couch company on facebook because that i think the first thing we was soleil it was flaming right. You're right and normally a flaming yawn super tender but lacking a little bit and flavor and this thing so much layer of house amazed just wonderful so anyway so we got a real full freezer now out in the barn born with all the chickens and all the beef so we're very happy it's good. That's a good feeling when you have a fast firstly when you have a baby boy who starting to develop his appetite. It's nice to have a full freezer me his even like almost the same as leon yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. That's just not i guess i should expect expected but wow well the midwife told you the point was can eat a whole lot more family on a did yeah when the little he definitely was nursing more. It seemed like he had more staying power like leona. One like do thing charles was like not just give me more yeah yeah so anyway all right. Let's wrap. This up seems pretty good. Thanks for listening folks. Please go ahead and in check us out online and enjoying this. Please go ahead and give us some reviews online. I haven't actually looked at. I tunes page recently recently but please feel free to put up there. I think i tunes on the main. Places people go to find podcasts so yeah that would be great recruiter alright. Thanks a lot take care. Bye-bye thanks for listening to another podcast you can also check us out on wild family farm dot com or social media catch you later <music> <music>.
Forest School 2: The Lost Treasure written by Hannah Erickson
"Guys I ready to hear a story. We have a special one today I made lots of Allison's really enjoyed the story forests school when we released it and we had quite a few people are maybe one day we could release a second one. Today. We have very excited to bring you forest school to by Hanna Eriksson. Hi. It's me Luna I'm here with my brother. Gio. We're in the tree house in the forest. A lot has happened since I made the last recording here and as you probably know in the world. Were home a lot. Now, our school is closed right now. And believe it or not? I, actually miss it. I love our new school. I made friends and we do a lot of art projects. But not going to school has been a little like old times. It's like it's like we left one school the kind in a classroom and started at another kind of school. I'm talking about forest school as you know on Cowan knows about the tree house now? Well I guess she always did but we didn't notice that she knew. So, every morning after we put away the clean dishes and load. The dishwasher. We come out here to the treehouse. When I climb up to the Treehouse, I always feel a little better. No matter what else is going on. It's springtime. So the oak trees have these little golden strands hanging off them kind of like bits of yarn. But when you get up close, you see that they're actually tons of tiny flowers linked together. I was thinking about that the other day actually when aunt cow said something like. For All in this together. When she was talking about why we had to stay home right now it's like we're all little flowers holding on and the wind. There's water in the creeks now and tadpoles. We go on creek walks where we step on rocks and usually end up getting her feet wet. We walk home barefoot holding our wet shoes. I like to feel the mud squish under my toes and the news the grass to wipe them off before I come inside. Everywhere. Right. Now it's just green green green flowers and weeds growing as tall as gio in some spots. When we were in the middle, the other day I thought I'd lost him for a minute. But then there he was behind these tall white flowers anyway what I wanted to tell you about was what cow said this morning I was just putting the last platen the dishwasher and Gio was wiping the table when she popped her head in the kitchen and said. That reminds me. She's always feign confusing things like that. Maybe because she's she's older. Or maybe 'cause she's on cow so I said. What reminds you? And she said. Union brother working together. It reminds me of the time your father and I had a disagreement. We had trouble that time. I dropped the sponge. I, love hearing any stories about my dad. Gio, had stopped wiping the table and was staring up at aunt count to. Well she couldn't not tell us the story after that. She said. All right. Come. Let's it. And she sat in her old rocking chair and picked up her crocheting and started in on the story. Once upon a time said, your dad had a wristwatch. Apparently, the watch had been my dad's favorite thing it was gold and told the time. Exactly. And it had been a gift for his twelfth birthday. He wore it every day he never took off. Except when he went swimming One afternoon he aunt cow walked down to the swimming hole in the river near the Tree House I think I know the one? It's down behind a cluster of Sycamore is and you go along the rocky path until there's a break in the brush. The Path leads right up to the water where there's a deep pool. Jew and I go there in the summer to. It was a hot day and my dad and not cow couldn't wait to get in. My Dad had to finish a chore and not Cow Ran Ahead when he got there, she was already in the water seen it felt so nice and cool and he had to come in feel for himself. My Dad took off his watch fast tossing on the ground next to his tee-shirt. They dunked in water and took turns standing under the little waterfall that the river made as it flowed over the rocks into the pool. Then aunt cow started to get cold and got out of the water. She remembers grabbing her towel and seen something shiny roll off of it. She realized later that it was probably the watch. But she didn't look closely because she was shivering shacked up the towel and headed back. When my dad got out of the water and dried off, he suddenly realized he couldn't find the watch. He patted down the dried grass and lay down his belly to look under the bushes. which all the color of brush in the late summer gold just like his watch. After searching and searching, he ran home thinking maybe his sister had taken the watch home by accident. But she hadn't with a lump in her throat, she told him about the shiny thing she had seen fall off of her towel as she dried off. She promised to go help search for it in the morning he was furious with her and she felt terrible. But. She realized later that it wasn't anyone's fault. Really it just happened. She hadn't meant to have it roll off her towel into the brush. Strangely, he never did find the watch they searched and searched for what felt like weeks. Eventually, my dad saw aunt cow showing up every day to help him search. He felt a little less angry. One day down by the water's edge they were poking sticks through the rush looking for the watch when my dad sat down. We'll never find it an CAL said I'm sorry. It was quiet for a while and couches sat there watching the river. She thought about all the fun they used to have in the forest before they lost the watch. Eventually she said. Can we start. Over. My Dad didn't say anything for a long time. But then finally he said, okay? Do you want to go back to the big tree I have an idea. My Dad's idea. Was the tree. House. Every day that summer they dragged planks of wood over to the tree and a hammer and nails. My grandmother helped them saw the would pieces sometimes back at the house, but they had to drop the plans and tell her what size to cut and where. One day when they were almost done and just had to nail in the last floorboards, aunt cow couldn't find my dad. Finally she found him down by the river with a notebook and pencil he was drawing a map. Next to the map. He wrote a quick note and tore out the piece of paper. He said it was just in case. She asked in case of what? He said in case, anyone wants to help find the watch. Or. Having adventure. Aunt cow things. He slipped the note somewhere in the last floorboards they nail down. On the west side of the Treehouse, the side near the river. So, just now. G. And I ran back to the treehouse. He got a screwdriver and I have a flat paint stick to try to pry up floorboards. The Sky is grey this morning and climbing into the treehouse was kind of like climbing into a cloud. Everything's damp the forest below looks like at any moment, a group of fairies could come dancing out of the fog wearing mushroom hadson shoes or something. But anyway, we need to find that note, I'm standing on the floor of the treehouse looking down at each board kind of tapping them with my feet. Are Any loose. Look at this one over here. Gio, says. I'm down on my knees now and kind of sticking my face close to the board pressing on either end with my palms wiggles a little. Gio Wedge your screwdriver on this side. I'm sticking my painters stick on the other side. Ready. One Two Three Paul The board came out. And there's this envelope under here. I'm opening it. There's a map. Looks like at least from the treehouse down to the river. And there's this palm next to it. Do Your Tree House dwellers and explorers of all kinds in this forest you may find. Treasure of the golden kind a watch that keeps perfect time or something else. Equally fine. But if the treasure that you seek. You don't find within a week learn from me. It is not tragic. The forest has its own matching. You are you thinking what I'm thinking? Let's go fine. The Watch gotta go. Hi. Back. So we searched all day and didn't find the watch. Here's what we did find. A fossil with a bug inside a Fuzzy Caterpillar a pink crystal rock to walking sticks and five white flowers that we brought homefront cow. When we came in for lunch, we told her the news. No. Watch. She served US peanut butter and banana sandwiches, and then pulled something gold and shiny out of her pocket. You mean this watch she said. Jew and I stared at her I was like you had it all along. She said one day a few years ago on one of her walks she saw something glinting down by the water. She dug it up with her walking stick and there it was the watch she thinks a bird must've taken if that first day when my dad lasted it and flown down the Bank of the river with. Or maybe it washed down over the years. She let us hold it I'm actually wearing it now, it still works. Jew and I get to trade off days we wear. Anyway. It's just a watch, but it was my dad's watch and I liked the story that goes with it. I guess that's what I wanted to tell you. That whatever's happening out there we still have stories and we still have the forest. Let's go. Okay hang on. Got Go. We're going. Until next time. Thanks Kelli for telling us that awesome, story. Things to Aden from Chicago who says, he loves this thing to ask stories when he goes to bed. He loves Charlie's mob attacks and the yellow chickens spot. He says, he loves my stories the most. Thank you. So Aden, keep listening. Also. Big. Thanks to Tara, from Washington, easy from the UK Elliott who is also from the UK Gwendolyn from Canada Abby from Virginia Amy from the USA. Gabriel and Tilly from Slovakia. Amir out from Minnesota Lachlan and Malcolm from Canada and clear page and Joshua from England. Thanks so much to everybody for listening. We'll see you next time. Every day that summer they dragged big plants blue.
Ancient Superfoods for Mind & Body with Danette May
"Hello and welcome to the doctor dockers functional nutrition podcast. The show designed to give you science based solutions to improve your health and life I'm Dr, David Shockers, doctor of natural medicine chiropractor and Functional Nutrition Practitioner and on the host of this podcast. I'm here to tell you that your body was created the heal itself, and on this show we focus on strategies you can apply to gay to heal and functioning. I'm excited about today's podcast. But before we jump in I wanted to remind you to download this month's special gift at Dr Jockettes Gift Dot, com, from Kito, meal plans smoothie recipes. Fasting quickstart Guides Avenue complimentary gift every single month to get your gift simply visit Dr Dockers Gift Dot Com that's D R Shea. E. R. S. G. I. F. T. DOT COM. Thanks for spending time with me, and let's go into the show. This podcast is sponsored by organic five. 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Welcome back to the doctor dockers functional nutrition podcast, and today we're going to talk about mindset breaking through limiting beliefs really rising to another level in your life and also incorporating some of the best superfood nutrients. I've gotTA talk about superfoods. So we're GONNA talk about that as well. My guest is Dinette may many of you guys probably know her if She is a founder of Mindful Health LLC and the rise movement cheese a world renowned motivational speaker author of a fantastic book called the rise in unforgettable journey of self love forgiveness and transformation. She is a former celebrity fitness trainer and our work has been seen all over various popular media and she has millions of followers. Her social media channels show also developed the whole you healing detox program along with a number of other great online programs, and she developed a powerful nutrition product called cow bliss something I. Absolutely love is a great raw chocolate powder that contains seven superfoods to put you in a state of bliss. That's why it's called cow bless. So dinette for joining us here on the podcast. I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me. While absolutely will you know in your book? You'd go all through your story and I would love for our listeners to really know more about you and and when inspired you to write to write your book. Well well as a big question. I always, GonNa Start this this question with that. We're all given these moments in our lives which I call refiners fires, and this is where we're truly molded and and really burning away the things that are really not us and things that are not serving us these stories, these belief systems that we've taken on and for me, of course, I had my refiners fire just like all of us will have or have already have having multiple. And I had lost my son in Phnom. I went through this really deep depression once I lost him in doubt myself unraveling in these stories of my relationship at the time and you're really terrible divorce I. Don't know if there's a lot of really great divorces but I just all myself in a really interesting place where I had always been studying about nutrition was trainer at the time. But here I was broke the joke. I was a single mom forty seven dollars to my name. That's a whole story inside the bucket will go until you have to get the victory that how it got there and literally was. This unknown feeling of depression after losing my son and in this rock bottom for me in this refiners fire, I really started on leering stories that I had built up around myself. I started to really play with the power of superfoods to get myself out of this depression out of this brain fog too. So I could show up for the two daughters they did have and you know that really was the turning point for. Me To for what I do today, that's where the three pillars came from, and I knew that I couldn't be the only one who was dealing with these types of events in their lives in the things like healing movement in might set in healing foods were really the pillars and the catalyst for my ultimate role to I out today, and it's what I stand on its what I try to teach others because I know that. We all are going to have our fires were all going to have our moments if we can just really be our greatest friends in our greatest advocates and you these three pillars, we can change our lives. Yeah it's powerful and so you said the three pillars are what mindset. Lou and movement. For. Sure I mean those are all three things that you know if we can anchor in will definitely make a dramatic impact on our life, and so you created this rise movement to go along with your book, and let's talk about that and kind of what you've seen come out of that. Roy started my business originally, it was primarily for women and for me what I was recognizing working inspiring millions of women that women were the most untapped resource humanity has in my opinion, and if we can wake women up to their power to the remembrance to their knowing than we can literally shift the trajectory of this planet in the direction we're going and so it's been this huge mission of mine to really create this rise movement, which was all about rising within because you've gotta go inward I rise within yourself, and then you rise up and come together in unity and I knew. Women at the time were coming together in this conversation of maybe anger and maybe like all my rights are being mad and mad at men and all these things and I was like, can we come together in a different conversation because it's really about us going inward and us our selves and US being greatest out, get not separating ourselves from anything outside of ourselves and so that's where the rise movement gene froman. It's been an awesome journey and I think you know the rise movement is based off those pillars as well but it's that deep inner rise that we all need to take men. For Sure I love that reminds me of a book or read years ago called power versus force, and if you read that but talked about how. No. Yeah. Like force would be like anger It's something that we're trying to trying to manipulate our circumstances whereas power comes from real internal like a like a deep love and respect for yourself. As real power comes from, and so it sounds a lot like that or power is way more you know exponentially More. Powerful. Than than. Ever be and so. Let's talk about limiting beliefs, some limiting beliefs that you had in your life and what you're seeing with the people that you've coached and and people follow you on social media and strategies they can use to help break through those. Yeah. I'm a big believer in looking at our believes in the stories we're telling ourselves in. This is not something that you I don't actually believe we all. Just arriving I. Think it's an endless journey and it's a journey to take every single day and for me this is made all the difference in who people see us do not may it's changed the way I look it's changed health. It's changed my relationships. It's changed my financial the way. I stand in my purpose every day in it's really first off understanding that we were all born. With this incredible like I. Love The word that power this incredible power, all of this coursing through our DNA, the remembrance of past ancestors in anyone that we actually look at outside ourselves that we think are amazing coursing in our DNA and we're all connected, and then we pile on these stories that come from families that come from a religion comes from our community and our job is to unlock. Those stories, those believes what we call beliefs I. This is what I am. Is it really what you are and get to the truth who you are and ultimate power, right that's ultimate significant in love and compassion, and so getting back to that essence is been a journey that I think has made all the difference all the difference in the new one who's taken up any of my programs. To answer your question, how do you even go there expedia understand this I, think all of us kind of understand it man I'm really hard on myself. I hear my negative self-talk and Diving into this research, there was a study on the hook, all these different women in particular magic. The same women were quite significant in the waiting Battered themselves inside their minds and they hooked him up and they found that they had fifty thousand negative thoughts a- day wrong more than fifty percent of these women that they were testing. That's a lot of negative thoughts that kind of blew my mind. I almost thought it was a little extreme like where are these? They testing results. But. But if you really think about the constant thoughts are going all day long how many of early positive in your favor? And really being aware that you are the storyteller and you are the story. So what story are you going to create and so becoming aware of the first step, and then the second step is every day I'm writing my story I'm writing what I believe what I'm trying to one layer when I, truly believe about myself and I'm trying to create a beautiful story right because we can treat choose having her hell truly. So those are the two steps that I think are the lowest we can go deeper down the rabbit hole. Of like meditation in Foods because all of that will actually act as an ally help you on this journey of unraveling the stories as well as creating beautiful stories for yourself. But every day in the morning, I'm always saying formations even just this morning when I sat my meditation on my Meditations Look Different every day this one in particular I was just constantly repeating ions for fifteen minutes and I. Am I am I am of whatever and just filling myself up with that first thing or I talked to anyone in the morning. Announcer great morning practice right there and how let's talk about when you're at your your lowest point. Where did you start? How did you start Your Eyes I love that you're asking us because it's not like it's like, Oh, I, just overnight did this because you have to understand that it's in our rock bottom leads our greatest gift because we only have one direction that's up and so in my rock bottom I. Literally I remember if I were to go back into that scene, I had sold everything in my home I was raising these two girls by myself. I was sleeping on the floor on a mattress, but it wasn't just any mattress matches that my parents had. Given me the day head probably conceived me on. It was disgusting I had a twin g like trying to cover it because I didn't even have a sheet Ole Sheet, which is just insane immediately about right now. So it was always looking at that mattress with ten of Antennas Zygi get curious George in the big red dog from a younger daughters that I get some type of work or some alone time and I remember just being in this really low moment and going I of isolated myself I'm a financial Ron I'm terrible. Mom How did I even get in the situation and? I literally picked up but I had which was a phone I was borrowing Wifi through the wall for my neighbor because they couldn't even afford. Wifi and Looked up motivation. And I you know, of course, you just Google motivation you're going to get a whole host of people. And I I remember watching a few of them and they had this common denominator to him. That was saying I statements and really looking at all the limiting stories beliefs you have your. Writing down in writing the opposite on the other side and I literally wrote a page in half. I still have that page and a half of all stories that was saying. Thirty thousand words at all of us tend to do or maybe it's fifteen thousand it doesn't even matter that's a lot and then wrote down opposite. So if I was like I'm a terrible mom arm financial ruin I was writing I am financial success. You know a wonderful mother, a powerful woman you know when I was writing all that down in the night I, made a commitment to myself that when I was in that negative spiral, which this is the hardest time because we all know it we're in that negative spiral whether we call it depression or anxiety you're just going. Down the rebel just being negative in spiralling it's hard to go. Oh, I'm going to eat well are I'm going to be positive right now or I'm GonNa do my affirmations takes massive discipline and it takes radical responsibily and I got committed to myself not moment that it every one of these leaders, these inspiring people that I aspire to doing this why not be and so I said every time I start to spiral at the beginning I'm telling you could have some days like every fifteen minutes I was noticing a negative thought so radically took out my list I read it And over time, it felt like a little I kind of true generally ring. But I noticed little by little as I got radical in reading that in choosing the opposite of me spiraling. I was starting to notice the subtle shifts happening over and over time, and it wasn't like it happened overnight. It was subtly subtly subtly and not. So I try to tell people is that it does happen and it will happen for you have to be committed to the work whether you see results are not immediately. Yeah just like anything else you'RE NOT GONNA lose ten pounds overnight or you know change your skin complexion or anything like that I mean it's it. All takes time it takes consistent output. And that's really where a lot of people fall is that they they try it I think a lot of it also has to do with the amount of. The consistency but also like there's that law that. An object in motion remains in motion unless acted upon by equal opposite force. Right. So if you're spiraling in one direction or lifestyles negative, all your thoughts are negative. You need to start somewhere but then you also need to really start building an opposite force right And that's I think a lot of did you use like emotion and a lot of people will do declarations when when did that start was that immediately or did you start doing that later as he built momentum while I was going to say for me I never K.. So for I think everyone listening can probably attest to this before you decide you're going to workout. You're never really feeling like you want to work out right but no one ever gets done what the workout goes. I feel like crap or I wish I wouldn't have done not usually feel thing proud of yourself. You're tired but there's this energy there's this. Currency that's going on inside your system and I realize now in hindsight that what I was doing was I also was when I would work out right after or during go running and I would say it out loud because I'd be running up in the mountains or away from people. So I wouldn't necessarily do around someone but I would start declaring it and there's an energy that's already happening in your system in your cells when you're moving your body. So harnessed that and people talk about doing after orgasm right? Like there's all these different points or when you're in extreme joyce that hanging out with your favorite people doing your favorite thing. I truly that time like when I'm doing that with my circle of friends. Now now, I'm not even trying like leads poor each other because there's a harness that happens and you're accelerating your results because when you're in that state and not abrasion of joy and you can actually declare it at that time it's like a speed dial. Yeah, exactly get that emotion up I. Know for for me exercise always really helped with that. Just I getting this energy going and using that as momentum as fuel. So. Yeah. Let's let's talk about how you became a celebrity fitness trainer. What was that road like? Well, now is an actually before I lost my side okay yeah. Yeah, I, was I was working for the largest fitness distributor. I was actually there being like creator of fitness. and what led me to working with a lot of these celebrities and and going okay. Let's let me train your body. Let me see what would be physical attribute of what we could create with our engineers. Create results and it started off at not actually was such a beautiful time for me because I was recognize the of making millions of dollars for another corporation and I was like man, I had this gift. Why can't I see this gift to myself but everyone else concede this gift in me and I remember I was going to pull away from that job because was taking me away from by young child at the time in and they were like, Oh, we'll buy a house. Will give you and I was like, wow, this is fascinating wider not believe in myself as much as they do and I need to break off in of course stunning. What's your all my crazy stuff after that but I still held onto that and I I held onto this lake. What's within me that I'm just not seeing that I could create my own that I'm not creating another corporation or another company I'm doing for myself and in the way, I want to do it. And that's that was such a beautiful time because that's when I, held onto that after I really worked on my inner story than my own business. That's grammy have to have some sort of anchor that really helps some sort of accomplishment or achievement that you've had in the past really helps because you can think back to them. That really helps helps with the journey. Is. I just want to interrupt this podcast. Tell you about one of my favorite superfood chocolate powders. It's called cow bliss. You seek a cow is unprocessed chocolate in it is rich in neuro active alkaloids that boost dopamine, Syra tone endorphins either your feel-good neurotransmitters that really make you feel alive and well, and it's also rich in polyphenols. EEG. CG which we think about when we think of green tea that helps protect your brain your body from oxidative stress to age more effectively and feel better than ever my favorite brand FA, cow powder is. 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Guys if you are a chocolate lover, maybe a superfood enthusiast just someone wants to experience life at a higher level. I invite you to try out the cow palace today. If you go to the website Earth, echo foods, dot com forward slash David jokers. Let me spell it for you E. A. R.. T.. H.. E.. C. H. O. F.. D. S. dot com Ford Slash David shockers used the Coupon Code David at checkout to get fifteen percent off of the cow bliss and this is a low carb gluten-free GMO free Vegan Paleo. superfood powder that you will love to try that out to gag and use the Coupon Code David at out Earth Echo foods, dot com forward slash David shockers use a coupon Code David, get fifteen percent off today. Now you also created a detox. I was looking at your website there the whole you healing detox can you explain more about that? Yeah. Well, I am a big lover I'm like a gig on superfoods lately, mind nighttime reading all about superfoods or biohacking the body Lake you. I just I've never been not girl to read Romance novels not that anything's wrong with them but I just recognized that there was always. Something in needed I've been so fascinated by foods and like ancient suits in anno, not like new foods that are being created ancient foods. What'd healers in these indigenous tribes use for ultimate healing for the people back that riot in like what could we take to our modern living in? So the whole you healing detox really came with from this idea of taking real foods understanding because at the time people were like. Drinking Water doing grapefruit. Jews added Cayenne and I was like there's something missing heirs almost like we're trying to punish ourselves into health and I'm like it's not really meant to be that way. It's meant to be loving and healing, and if you can harness the loving power of foods and you can be loving yourself because I don't actually believe in detox is just foods either it's the with thought you're saying yourself visualization. So I include all of that my program mindset piece in like audios you can listen to or a part of everyone might programs and then taking all these foods you can have should go by it's you have to buy this pill from me or do. Take these healing foods blend them up. Some of them, you actually can shoe because I realized. It's actually for some people drinking things. Yes. It's easier on the digestion but can I make have a make something kinda midway through that actually gives them little sustenance. They tasted they really appreciate that feeling. So they're going back into the remembrance of appreciation pleasure in ultimately food. So it's a whole combination of movement in mindset foods. Yeah love that absolutely I only chew. We actually release endorphins dopamine all these feel neurotransmitters, rains. We feel good. It's. It's naturally have kind of this built in mechanism that makes us one a desire to eat and to enjoy it right and so I think you know obviously having that and being able to enjoy that can be really healthy part of a of a detox as well. and combining it with liquid nutrition because liquid nutrition, the blenders already done the job at the digestive tracts take stress off the body, which therefore allows you to simulate those nutrients but you actually use allow US energy nortre breakdowns energy diverting into other areas and helping in and clean your body up. So as our I love how you're saying all this against perfect because it's like taking a of what I feel but putting it in really like acticle scientific way, which is so beautiful for people to understand. This is why we do what we do you know. Absolutely and you made this great product, Cook Cow Bliss let's talk about that. Well, it's not so secret anymore but like I mentioned, I always had this. With indigenous tribes and then I started fast like dreaming about being invited to sit in these sacred circles that no one gets vited into, and so I would literally manifest this I would call it in invitation and I started finding myself going around the world and getting invited into places no blonde hair blue eyed girl it's by into and in particular was once ceremony where I was sitting with these healers in a circle. The passing out is like little ceremonial mugs than like I remember drinking in super delicious and we went into this meditation in this intention setting and I came home and the attention that I had sat not circle came to pass after seven days like they said, it would. and. It started leading me on this idea of what is these cows ceremonies and I know they're kind of popping up in the US and different places. But in the indigenous way, they literally would take raw ca cow and rock and cow back in the Mayan time was more revealing than bolt. It was healing property and we know scientifically why but they were. They would take cow in the it wasn't like they would just drink rob bitter cow they would take the honey from the bees and put it in. If they had tumor, they'd put it in in down in like the Aztec area improving area put the on a little bit of mosquito for energy and they would use it to do their mountain climbing and all their work throughout the day but they also. Used a ceremony and I was fascinated by the way I felt I was fascinated with the ceremony in the just the idea of ceremony, right? How how often do just like send intention to this good foods that are blessing our lives and using it harnessing it to to attract into become this magnet for bliss in our in abundance in our lives and so that's who could countless was born from I was. Started, playing around with Mike Kigen I was like, okay. I got cow I was on the Kuma Ski to Morag Throw C. T. in there. You know I was like wanting it to be those sugar you know and I was I, would do raw honey but then I realized diabetics could always do. So I was just playing with it and that was giving out to my community. Zach formula and people were writing in like depressions on you know of course they can't see those lanes but evil were going. Amazed at how I feel I was amazed at how I was feeling in. I just went to my team and I was like it is time like I every time I'd go hiking. It was like you need to bring this to the world like this is what's going to help people tap into their list because I'll share with you guys really quick. because. I'm such a nerd about this like rock a cow. So why I'm so passionate about this there's only two foods in the world that contained chemical called mandate and rocket cow is one of them and Ananta might is so potent what basically it's like this bliss molecule, they call it but it creates the same a four inside the body is if You were making love or if you were experiencing the most extreme joy when I say making love, it's like wisdom when you deeply love right like there's this deep sense of which we know that frequency of love in your heart is the ultimate tractor of everything. So I was so fascinated by this that we consume of rotten and ideally ceremonial. Great. Cow and ceremonial meeting the Sun Actually, he'd sit up, they don't put it in a manufacturing plant and let that slowly heat up the Cacao in the out outer. So anyway, that's why I'm so in love with it at contains deal bromide, which gives you the perfect amount of energy and blood flow through your brains big I write so much stuff on. On this product and so anyways, just a big huge passion of mine and I am super bring it to the world. Down that's so awesome and for those guys that maybe kick cow is the first time you've heard that it's actually raw chocolates was processed check. All of us have experienced bliss at some point eating some piece of chocolate whether it's healthy or not. You can actually do it that cow has tremendous health benefits like she sang when it's not processed and it's not high in sugar or gary or you know other pop possible anti nutrients and so you've got flavored with monk fruit, which is all natural sweetener doesn't impact your blood sugar. Any you've got things like cinnamon in air to Merrick have powerful anti-inflammatory benefits also help modulate your blood sugar and improve your insulin sensitivity. So keep your blood sugar stable. That's really important to feeling bliss when your blood sugar is going up and down. you're gonNA feel irritable. You're GONNA feel hungry. You'RE GONNA feel tired fatigued and so getting your cow in a form that is not going to throw off your blood sugar very very important and you also want those anti inflammatory compounds like to Merican cinnamon and different things like that because they're to help reduce inflammation your body when your body's really inflamed it's going to take you out of bliss so. Very important, and then cow also has a lot of polyphenols light EEG CG. Actually, you know we think about green tea as being the best source of these contentions actually raw chocolate or cocoa is actually a better source of that. None mazing and it tastes delicious. That's what. So and I think people don't realize that like big go to the store they look and see cocoa powder right cocoa powder quite bitter is not the same thing is rock a cow because it's been stripped of three hundred fighter nutrients and all the policy nannied you're not getting it if you're not having it in that raw form, which has like you said, it's like even higher doses of all these nutrients than a lot of these products that we think are amazingly green tea in berries and all those things. Absolutely and what are your favorite ways to use it? Well I mean in our family which we joked the good thing I treated this because we go through like a bag a week. So for my kids every morning they drink they drink hot chocolate just like they would have back in the day like we had a little bit not milk to it. They had they had a little more milk than water because they like it extra creamy and. I love. So they do it as a hot chocolate in the morning and helps with their thinking school, and then after school because it combs that right like. So it's really helped you open your if you had a rough day or you just want to get connected to yourself it's a great way to do that, and then I this is one of. My favorite ways I take it and I like adding a little by now I left out of the formulas not everybody's a big lover of it in all you need is a big little dash of Cayenne, throw some nut nutmeg in there and obviously Collagen, and I blended all up like the hot chocolate and drink that most every day is not. and. Then of course, you can throw it in your smoothies and I love making these peanut butter cups with it. So there are non bake I can just do rock cal at the bottom I put some almond butter peanut butter in the middle and then top and put it in the freezer the night out like this delicious healthy like dessert. I mean who would want that some good chocolate fat burning desert. Bobby. Well, let's talk about some of your air your other favorite foods kind of like would a daily routine looks like for you? Yeah. So you talk about the foods oil routine buster with your routine. Yeah. Okay. So I'm a big personnel routine, but at the same time not getting. So remember what called something like over you're doing too many ritual as you're forgetting to be present whatever coming some about doing rituals and routine, but breaking them every. So often right like getting out of it and really seeing the world in a different way. But I wake up before everyone else favorite thing to do is wink up watch the sunrise I'm lucky enough to live on a mountain where I can see the sunrise. That's like heaven dime like I get excited to be able to be coming down in the dark and then watch the sun come up and I started off my morning lemon water. So that's what I start off with is fresh lemon water most days. There are times when I haven't By traveling haven't gotten it but most days is hot lemon water and then I always just sit and watch the sunrise in silence I sometimes sit outside to do it. I'll stay inside and then I always write down in my journal, and this has been a huge practice to take the business to crazy heights to my relationships too crazy heights but I-, I commune with my soul and so I take out a journal in Right. What would you have me now and I write whatever comes up like even if it sounds like nonsense even if it sounds kind of weird I write whatever comes up. and then I obviously spend time in gratitude meditation after that usually make cow bliss or I'll add it into coffee if I really need to like. Really good trip it, but I don't do that anymore because I'm super sensitive but a of people love to calculus in their Aussie by husband does that every single day and I'm like I would slide through the roof but So have I WANNA crush workout I'll do that but. Typically, I liked to work out first thing in the morning. How but before I do that and get out in nature always like a little hike or something. But yes, that's my morning routine. Anyway what do you like to do for working out? Oh I. Love Everything. I like to change it up so I love everything outdoors. So like mountain biking like mountain running yesterday went mountain running this morning i went mountain biking So I, like to do that but then I try to combine it with some type of hit or body workout maybe few weights but I really liked try not to do two heavyweights for me. It's all about longevity structure. Making sure that I can just do any activity I WANNA do and be able to thrive at it. So it might be like some type of hit workout sometimes it's pilates sometimes just stretching, but it's always something in nature. Says my way whether it's skiing or by like I said or unlike that that's. Really not really lifting weights you're more. So doing a lot of things outside calisthenic type work. Yeah, if I come into the gym and it'll be more like jump squats. Do, away and I'll just add a little bit of weight to. Do. High repetition. So it's more of that fat-burning. Sky. Good. So then see so we talked about your morning routine them. What is the rest of the day look like it's Grind Midlife get into business mud and so I always take care of myself I and then I go into business mode and I love what I do but it's like some of the time that's not what I love to do but it's gotta get done and it's work work then. In the evening, it's time with family actually. I don't know if people know this and I I don't know I think as we start to all as humans we start to realize we don't need that big of a circle. And so I don't actually spend a lot of time outside of a really intimate circle and so at least me with a lot of time to just be with family to be back out in nature again in. So it's usually just family time in. In nature time again and Yeah. Just go to bed quaint early. About nine thirty and I'm pretty boring to other people but I love this way. So good. We're we're very similar in that way. I've been very small circle. It's allowed time with my family and just my very, very close friends. So young I'm the early bird and my wife though she she keeps me up a little bit. She likes to stay up a little bit later sleep in rights. We're kind of balance, each other and now. Let's talk about talk about your favorite foods, what you like to eat throughout the day. And do you do intermittent fasting at all? Do you do three meals a day? Do you snack talk about your normal routinely? This girl likes to eat and trust me like is. All about intermittent fasting I know all the benefits by husband does it and I do not i. I love to e and I noticed that for my body it does really well with small meals throughout the day. And so I know for others that's not an awesome rhythm because they played their constantly eighty I love constantly eating and I'm constantly eating. So it's like little things. So this morning, for example so I had already had countless chocolate superfood one with the Chi and the Nutmeg, the Collagen then I made a big green smoothies. So I love just like throwing all the amazing superfoods in a blender like spire Lena. Now whatever I could bind sometimes it's chocolate sometimes it's based. In all the green. So I had that in the afternoon I'll be munching on Hamas different fresh veggies that I've cut up in just of keep a Kinda light throughout the day because as smoothing was quite full but I like seriously I'm hungry again so I give. And I make these up protein balls out of peanut butter and she is seeds in all these superfoods in I will eat a few of those dinnertime will usually be some type of protein roasted veggies Maybe some type are a lot of sweet potatoes. Love those. So that's kind of. Deal. Love it what are your top five favorite foods like let's say you were stranded on an island you'll can only have five foods. What would they be? Well I'm going to go to the practical side of me. One would be dark chocolate for her 'cause I gotTa have pleasure. So dark chocolate it. Could Calculus with you. She S I idyllic Chia seeds if I were to need to be somewhere stranded legs choosy touch. So many components to sustain you so. Seats for sure. Probably coconut oil to add my good fats or Avocados that's toss up. Like myself an avocado a day sometimes it just. Huge Fan. Avocados. Yeah. Yeah and then Gosh what else would I say? They're kind of like the basics. Is it sounds so weird but if I could make Mrs Cheating, there's a lot of properties in my massive salads of I loved making like a really good salad with all the all it's nuts. So I would probably have that with me to. with you on that my wife makes us incredible Greek Salad. Soak will put fettuccine in it or there's like a coconut cheese that will years it's like interior an attorney but olives, onions cucumbers it's got like a of vinegar type dressing to it so good. Yeah. Like if you make a salad, right, you will never go back. Beyond that, now that's awesome. What about what supplements do you take? What are your top I know you're you're into you know biohacking your body's what are your top supplements you like to use I actually liked to keep things quite simple I. Don't think that I think even in the biohacking world, we can get quite complicated when it's like nature actually has all those things if you just get out at nature instead of trying to create a machine to do it. But. That's like what I was keynoting Davis phrase of that I just wanted to say that I missiles to be like I. Know What we like all the machines and all the devices to track her sleep but it's just get out and play nature. You'll eat ten times better but. Keep it quite simple actually under our that go brand, and that's why I created him only ache is to mergen ginger. I take an extra tumor congestion because there's only a little bit of tumor in the googles out to Oregon Ginger together or just. So potent for immunity and inflammation in system in helping clear up mucus and all that for your for your body So I think that in a probiotic. Keep it quite symbol, and then when I in my smoothies I always had like chlorophyll and What's that Clinton? Will. I'm trying to think of the browns manner. It's Oceans Alive Oceans Live Yep Yep. So I'll add that in that's. You. Yet real good stuff IAN, Clark Gab Oceans Lab. We've had him on for your yeah. Sounds good sounds like some great stuff in then you're getting your vitamin D from the Sun Yep, you're getting regular sun exposure get that vitamin D about wintertime no you're in Colorado. Do you guys traveled during the winter to like a a sunny spot? Oh Yeah. Travel. People have asked me. So during these times, you still traveling like nothing's GonNa, stop, me aling I will figure it out. So yes. I will doubling the waiter we do. We never little crazy like like we live our students. So I'll go out even in the winter when it's And get naked and the. Chance. For you. To The sun here it's super. Sunny. In Colorado. I'm going to get son regardless so. Should. Iranian closer to the sun too. So you're gonNA actually get a little bit more vitamin D stimulation minus the altitude there too. Young thinking of Sun something. You just WanNa jam with you quickly about don't think people recognize. How powerful the sun is men help powerful really harnessing an connecting what the sun is your ultimate health. Obviously, we know about the our vitamin. D. But I'm wondering if people really understand like ten minutes out in the sun and even I do some Sun gazing in the morning. When it starting to come up and you can do it right when it's starting to just drop right blow. There's so much power in it and I really feel like untapped a science that were still not really talking about it could be really beneficial for everyone sun-gazing in all. Your son, your skin hit the sun. I don't know if you're familiar with Sayer G he's a friend of mine he runs A. Green Info and he wrote a book bestselling book regenerate and we had him on the podcast and he talked about how humans are actually helix coach tropic. We think about auto trophy like plants OUGHTA trope back. You know they're producing the all their energy on their own. and that humans are Hetero. Traffic thickening we would need to eat food, but he actually says Rashly Helix trope atropine in the sense that. Were Hetero CALICO tropic. He's some sort of a term like that where we can produce energy similar to plant if we have chlorophyll like you're talking about using spirulina things like that. an-and, it's charged by the summer we're taking the Bio photons from the sun actually been shown to help stimulate might O contro energy production. So. Really. Really fascinating stuff. You probably appreciate that regenerates great book. I wrote it down because I do feel that there's an element that we could all harness. The Sun's absolutely free are appealing. Yeah so true yeah. Getting really good quality sun exposure on a regular basis It's really unfortunate vilified the Sun We need healthy sun exposure but getting regular exposure is important and I know you like to get up and watch the sunrise. There's a there's like an ancient proverb that says, if you WANNA have energy throughout the day, watch a sunrise and if you want to sleep well, watch the sunset. Yes. I love that proverb. That's amazing. Get staff while we're wrapping up here but any last words of wisdom and inspiration for people. I guess for me as just the biggest mission that I feel I on for myself and for others to remind us of how powerful we actually are and how powerful and dynamic our bodies are in truly healing and not just because of the foods we eat or remove our body and not even just because we're watching the sun but really washing the thoughts that we're thinking and the stories were telling ourselves in the love were getting ourselves, and that combination is such potent medicine ever anyone is going through and just want to remind myself and others that. Are. Magnificent, truly magnificent and more powerful than we can even fathom. 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Peaky Blinders S4E3
"Welcome to previously about caceres created to help you. Through some of the most complex complex william television ever night peaky blinders four episodes three black we begin to the factory clamor of men desperate for work pushing shove waiting for all the to allow them in with the usual woodfull's out on strike like a shelter dirty scabbed rings drew and a petrol bomb ignites the money through it dragged and beaten by author once he saw the new manitoba there under the the protection of the peaky blinders in the hospital michaels told his mother's hair to see him and they surprise when his his adoptive mom she reminisces about the old times can give them a hug. He's then on a welcome back anytime he wants is told his little brother really misses him and his father died when she his thomas is ju- she legs it at a home police picked to buy it or along with is your and two of the clan she does a pistol and follows she asks polly to behave yourself ahead of a meeting sparking police temper schumann's. That was the employer employ shelby cow. She killed a man lost. A man found a some nearly lost a son an almost lost her own. Life says she'll definitely not be behaving itself and he could blame. Wretchedly is author prepares to make his own way to the meeting. He stopped by linda. She pulls the blinds on his office and reveals under a coat. She's wearing little else they they have a quick and all late for the meeting. The meetings underway mandis won't at the hospital to allow michael to attend. Thomas welcomes poly bagged the company company with a substantial payrolls eight is told she fills michael's rolling tilles well with all the legitimate stuff out of the way thomas prepares to talk real business the questions where authors we cut back to offer getting down to his own little business in the office with linda. They're interrupted by would that there's something of a kickoff underway in the paint shop with a a threat that awesome could be on the cards reluctantly all the zips up and heads outta that the hospital thomas proceed without his brother having found old wedding photos of the chen greta family the image of ludicrous shed they stole the many of the other men in the imaging are likely also politics crew photos to be posted throughout the city with a reward for information and they also decided to pass a copy obama going against long held tradition that the one with the named blitz they may all the to be the one to carry out the kill all the heads the paintshop paintshop armed with a hammer he finds men shook in paint around and makes most of them sculptor but one foolish man throws a can of red paint over the bates and sending him running footsteps footsteps approach to mafia men with guns walk in and open fire or the fleas but they give chase he hides in the shadows takes worn out with a hammer to the jewel steals feels the gun and shoots the other dead. When the first man tries to crawl away off the grabs him and gruesomely drowns him innovative paint finally he disposes of the bodies in a furnace. Luke is his office by two of his men. They break the news off survive but the two mafia men didn't one complains about the british food firing luca his anger who then force feeds that manson skins the second man like a finding a whole new appreciation of scrums informs luke the shell enemies highlighting in particular the woman whose son was killed in the boxing ring bell. She told them issues to invite one of the show. We've always to a house that they'd come. Thomas is looking for authors and finds him in the office all the breaks. The news is just killed. Two talion came from and then kicks off about news abir armor permission to kill lucas. Should the opportunity roy's before he leaves office says the italians waltzing through the bank told it was supposed to be locked meaning that someone has betrayed them. Returning home off asks linda how polly's say he knows it was her idea to seduce timothy office to keep him from the meeting and mris vote. He makes a point of loading the bullet with luke his name into his gun. Linda tells him too far into the fireplace to get rid of it. Instead autho grabs her by the throat declaring the rule says he has to carry out the kale. Thomas pulls a member of his staff guy could now devlin who suspects has been betraying them. He finds a one-way ticket to glasgow and knows the man's wife and kids have already left he asks him was a fear of the italians that made him in the door. The money instead insists he's innocent. He admits he foolishly left his keys. In the office when the factory was under threat of five if then reviews would that two italians of attended a communist party meeting and may have recruited a man from there to unlock the door he begs to be allowed to leave for glasgow to be reunited with his family but thomas tells me he's needed their jesse is paid an unexpected visit by thomas he stays is that to make it improve dolphin presents with chen greta wedding photo asking does she recognize anyone from the communist party meeting jesse surprises him by revealing something from his past a former relationship from before the war with a woman named greta geraci she died from consumption at the age of nineteen and jesse says greta cystic kitty told thomas stayed at the bedside assad said he went to war. She then dropped the bombshell that kit llosa's had thomas joined the communist party before the conflict he returns he's also done his research saying jesse sweet aw blew his brains out after the war she tells him she doesn't recognize anyone in the photo but presents him with patriots himself and greta the next morning authors in the yard with a gun on a gunshot brings. Thomas running lender informs him author fi the luca bullet to free himself. Polly is the shelby house and tells lizzie known certain terms that she's back and we'll be running things from now on linda walks also prepared to work as author thomas have given it the okay fin strides in the news that in his absence he's in charge lizzy meets thomas says pulling the gills making fins days a boss living nightmare and having found out he's a virgin have arranged a prostitute for later thomasson and lizzie white alongside the canal he talks about greta and how used to meet their saying he wanted to bring lizzy to the same place they kiss and have sex and afterwards. Thomas says shelby co should could increase charitable contributions going forward and build two new institutes for destitute children then places lizzy in charge of the project. It says he's doing it because he promised someone. He changed the world later. Tomas asks finn about his day than let somebody knows about the prostitute but he's told his brother doesn't ever want that again. He tells thomas i apologize is because the woman looks so tired told it needs to be a bit more brutal if he wants to fill the space left by joan at a pulse nightclub police met by luca she tells him michael is out of bounds owns and asked him to spare in an author in exchange for giving him thomas declaring he can trusted you to the history. She reminds journal the spat his mother when thomas wanted. Thanks for listening hope. It's been helpful. If you've enjoyed this. I would love if you subscribe. We've got loads more shows where this came from and we'd love you to join us a five star review wherever you you'll podcasts from would also tapie absolutely fantastic if you've got any feedback or ideas for show that we should be covering gloomy suddenly be doing the big ones but you never know. There may be others that we've missed lettuce. I'd love dave from over on twitter. You can find at previous podcast. We'll just email. 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