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CureVac Fails in Vaccine Trial
"So we're gonna talk about yet. Another vaccine trial this week. This just come out. It's from but this one stands out because it has not delivered amazing results in the way that we've become accustomed to ellie. Can you tell me a little bit about what's recently come from that. Yeah i think at this point everyone just kind of wait on things to move through phase three and read out and then you just anticipate that. Oh it's another massive success. We've been drunk on success at this point so when the results came through on wednesday evening it turned out that This vaccine was only forty seven percent effective at preventing disease. I have to say. I remember months ago talking to one of our reporters heidi lead when we got the very very first vaccine trial results island and she was like. Oh god you know. I i cannot believe it's i have to keep looking at these numbers because i didn't think we're going to get seventy eighty percent. I didn't think we're gonna get ninety percent. She i think at the time was expecting us to see results like this one here and yet it's still roped people because we've got used to having these amazing events we'll talk about the public health impacts of this but i guess i i'm interested in what the of scientific community how they responded to seeing these relatively low efficacy rates out from the trial. What's interesting about this vaccine in particular is that it's an mr a vaccine so built around the same core technology as the first two wildly successful vaccines from moderna and one from pfizer and biontech. If you'll recall last year when they announce their phase three data they had efficacy rates of ninety four ninety five percent so this is forty seven percent and that's kind of a an apples to apples comparison on that
B.C. Has a Blueprint to Save Its Oldest Forests
"Jordan heath. This is the big story. Sarah fox is the bbc investigative reporter for our friends at the narwhal. Sarah hi how are you doing. I'm doing really well. how about you. i'm well thanks ya do. You want to explain as we get started for people who don't live anywhere near bc. And i've never seen it. What is old growth forest. Exactly and What does it look like sure. So old growth forest. There's kind of the the official definition. And then there's a y you think of when you hear the words old growth for us so the official definition is that on the coast where where the growing season is longer in tends to be wetter. That trees that are older than two hundred and fifty years are considered to be old growth in other parts of the province. It's trees that are one hundred and forty years old. But i think when when people think of old growth imagine those kind of icon ick photographs of these enormous cedar. Douglas fir trees that are as tall. Skyscrapers in is wide as a boss. The the old growth forest because the trees are so large the kind of the light filters through them in a different way they're draped in mosses and lichens and just kind of fallen logs. Over centuries have become nurse logs for for other trees but the the will growth force are much more than the trees. Of course there. Hot spots for bio-diversity their home to all kinds of species including a species at risk of extinction that to depend on these forests on the interior of b. species like a caribou on the south west mainland part of bc. We've got the spotted owl here on the island and other areas. We've got the marbled murrelet bird and of course these old forests are huge stores of carbon and they filter water. They have many many environmental
Nautical Names Quiz
"Were here in the game room with a game. We like to call names. There are all sorts of things in the sea with some pretty interesting names. So and i are going to say some names of things under the sea. And you have to guess whether it's an animal a plant or a geological feature and just to be clear a geological feature is a natural formation in the earth like an island or a trench. Okay let's get started. The first word is water wheel. Is it an animal a plant or a geological feature that sounds like a geological feature to me. Maybe some kind of rock that spends a plant. In fact it's a carnivorous plant. A meat eating plant. Yep it grows in freshwater wetlands and feeds on small insects and fish. Wow okay well. Here's another one. The word is slime head. Is it an animal plant or a geological feature well. I've done enough swimming and lake. We wound to know that seaweed can be not slimy. So i'm going to guess that a slime head is a plan actually. It's a fish. They live in tropical parts of the atlantic pacific and indian oceans. They're also called red fish or rough because some people think slime fish is the most appealing name. Okay last one. The word is the seamount. Is it an animal a plant or a geological feature. Oh i know this. One eats a geological feature. It's the name for an underwater mountain or an underwater volcano. That's not active anymore back iras. Well didn't your grandma. G force us to have vacation house on top of an underwater extinct volcano but it turned out that it wasn't extinct. Oh yeah so now. She needs a new place to spend her summer vacation and i told her she could bunk with you. And that's your prize for winning this. Round of nautical name
Power outage hits 337K in Puerto Rico amid growing outrage
"Are in the dark in Puerto Rico. The power failure comes less than a week after massive outage knocked out power to 900,000 buildings on the island interruptions could last For days, President Biden and Russian
Making Hot Sauce and Working to Save Wetlands
"A family in Louisiana world famous for their Tabasco sauce is helping to conserve wetlands the idea along Avery island is to protect the region from hurricanes and floods we've been making Tabasco sauce here four four hundred fifty two years Harold took Osborn is CEO of mackel Haney company Roshen fight there is in the marshlands it works well in south Louisiana we like a slow pace at which we can slow things down it has a really positive affect plant manager heath Romero says the strategy is to grow grass forms a barrier so it catches the sentiment behind it you get the other grasses that take off and as it builds up you know you reclaim March Osborne says the effort is probably a standoff but Avery island is slowly rising I'm a Donahue
Uncovering the Story of the Online Serial Predator "Antisense"
"The cyber world is the latest frontier of human interaction. But for all the good at his brought it remains dangerous territory revengeful personalities an unstable mines have the ability at their fingertips to toy with people's lives to the point where they're victims have no place to hide in no laws to protect them. We've got a small taste of this ourselves a few years ago during our early days of podcast hosting for brief period i was stocked online by a stranger and it was scary. I'll give some details on that later. But made billion curious about the dark and even deadly world of cyber stalking. We wanted to export deeper over this past year. Alexis and i have spoken with dozens of victims of cybercrimes along with the professionals who investigated these cases pursued these offenders we encountered horrific stories of lives upended disturbing tales of extortion and psychological terror an unbelievable cases that ended in murder. And we uncover the granddaddy of them. All the predator. Who not only targeted vanessa. V but of fifty other victims over the better part of four decades. I decided to tell a story because every male friend. I talked to told me not to do it. They said i should stop investigating and stop inserting myself into this world. People are scared of these criminals and not enough people are speaking out because of it. And i'm telling the story because having now investigated it. I came to realize that you'd rather face a guy in an alley with a knife than an online predator with a keyboard. You know you might get hurt in the knife fight. At least you'd have a fighting chance against the cybercriminals you're fighting with hands tied behind your back.
Kucherov Shines, Lightning Beat Islanders 4-2 in Game 2
"Under US Leschi stopped twenty four shots to lead the Tampa Bay Lightning to a four two win over the New York Islanders and even the series at one game apiece Brayden point extended his goal streak to five games scoring the game opener New York Brock Nelson converted on the power play for a seventh of the playoffs on ripple out broke his eight game slump with the lightning second goal the lightning's defenseman chipped in to the game winner by yung Ruta and the fourth goal by Victor Hedman mat Barzal scored late for the islanders the series moved to Long Island for game three Thursday Walter Marcia Cano Tampa
Podcaster Roger Mitchell on What He's Learned Hosting Are You Not Entertained
"Podcasts from it. Sure what have you learned over land listening to the way it started for for me and grant was purely. Let's just do this for a laugh. Nobody will listen. We had okay. In the first year we used the contacts. We'd be baked at people like yourself to come on on have to see. Giles took it to a different level with both two things. Oversee the quality of guests he could bring on secondly an acceptance in the industry that neither grant or iheart vitamin bit involved in the industry of been in the sticks for a long time. No sorts nobody really knew me then. It started kicking off and then we've got different products which is one of the things of learn a little bit coming back to give people exactly what they want has got his thing which is a little bit like desert island discs for for sports stars grant and i do go on goal which is just pop chart between two blocks. I think people connect with that and they think is quite an approachable guy of you whom we have to on a cd face and we get good gas for that. And why phoned is that people want to hang out with other people of being so we got jet cards and on and then all of a sudden we law requests for other people to come on and hang with that same crew. So it's anything it's like. A success will club at a successful restaurant. It does a little bit late and why thing a phone no richard. I don't know what you think. The quality of stuff out there mostly for free is true so good that i a little bit paranoid. Ask myself everyday. Why do i need to be around the data show well served and i guess you were going gonna ask me less was thinking about last night and i was thinking. Why do they listen to me. And and jason grant well first of all grant. I think is just a world class broadcaster in the sense of his style and his rhythm and the we can just keep also light josh when he gets on a roll is just a wonderful speaker and speaks with such eloquent. And i think they shouldn't be because the thinking you never know what that daft idiot's gonna say. What is it not going to be scared to say today on. And i i think i think in the main people can recognize that if they were on the call with us they could very easily be part of our podcast. It's very approachable. I agree richard lock. It and i learned a
The Disappearance of Sneha Anne Philip
"Blaring alarm. Won't dr ron lieberman with a start. His fingers moved instinctively across the bad feeling for the comforting warms of his sleeping wife sneha but his hands found nothing but an empty pillow from the looks of it. She hadn't come home to their manhattan apartment last night. It was two thousand one but snare didn't have a cell phone so he had no way to reach her. Ron let out a heavy sigh. He knew she often stayed out late and had learned not to expecter especially since she had time off from her residency at stanton island saint. Vincent's medical center. She'd probably spent the night at a friend's place still at annoyed him that she hadn't called. Ron pushed aside his worry. He threw on his scrubs and headed into work at the jacobi medical center in the bronx around nine a m. He emerged from a meeting and found his colleagues gathered around a television screen. He pressed forward to see what they were looking at. It was the world trade center building and it was on fire. Almost every american. Who lived through nine. Eleven can remember. Actually what they did when they first heard the news. Ron's first instinct was to call home. The phone rang and rang but snare never picked up in the chaos and panic that followed. Her name became one of more than nine thousand missing persons. Just another lost. Soul and a sea of casualties. They live near the twin towers. So ron initially assumed she was caught in the debris. Investigators dug through the rubble identifying the remains of more than twenty seven hundred people but snia never turned up. She's simply disappeared without a trace.
Volcanos With Benefits: Lava Tubes, Hydro Thermal Vents & More
"The thing that volcanoes good for is to entertain you as they destroy vast landscapes on earth. Aside from that what are the good for. Oh let me count the ways. Now i do want to say. I don't like it when the volcanoes take people and buildings out while i was amused to see. Fisher's opening up people's backyards. It was amused in a. I really hope they have good insurance kind of way. So i'm a fan of like the power of our planet's geology of humanity. Oh just be clear. You're not a super villain you're merely fan of the marvels of nature. Okay exactly so so. Volcanoes iceland is really the place to look to find some of the coolest examples of what they can do. first of all they just add land. The nation of iceland is straddling the mid atlantic rift. It is getting torn in half. It is also on top of hotspot and over the millennia as the island nation gets torn in half. You don't actually see a gap forming because all the volkan ism. There is just filling it in now. The other side of this is there are islands all around the world at hawaiian islands or one of the most noticeable where you have a chain of islands that on one end is all dead volcanoes. That are well weathered over time and a great place to go live and then you have as you move down the chain you have younger younger islands that are more and more mountainous more and more active and these islands which are still growing for the active ones have amazing land to farm and if you want a nation to grow well. This is a different way to do it right. I mean a lot of the volcanic islands like the hawaiians that you mentioned even just across the pacific. There's tons of these of these islands. They provide stopping off point for birds. That are migrating various creatures and as you said the land around a volcano is incredibly fertile. We've known this. Back since the greeks and the romans keep settling on mount edna right
More Calls to Cancel Canada Day in Vancouver
"At least one. Large canadian city victoria has decided to cancel canada day celebrations on july. The first as dan carpenter reports the decision comes in the wake of the recent discovery of the remains of two hundred fifteen native children at the site of a former residential school in british columbia. Plans have now been shelled for the city on vancouver island to host a virtual candidate a celebration. The decision came after a unanimous. Vote by victoria city council. Instead officials say they will create a broadcast focused on the larger canadian history with guidance from local first nations. The broadcast will be released later in the summer. And focus on what it means to be canadian. Here's victoria mayor. Lisa helps right now. the likud nations are grieving And so it's very difficult for them to come and sing and dance and celebrate context change when those two hundred and fifteen children's bodies were discovered and and they are reeling and everybody is reeling. And so we're all just doing our best to figure out how to move forward. Some residents of vancouver island agree with the decision saying it might be best to cancel the celebrations this year and instead remember all residential school survivors and the victims. There have been similar calls across the country to cancel the national holiday celebrations. Many first nations held ceremonies to honor the two hundred fifteen children whose remains were discovered in may at the site of the former kamloops residential school for national native news. I'm dan carpenter.
Bongino on the Reality of Our Flag and Thanking God
"So when I joined the Secret service, one of my first assignments my an agent, friend of mine mint. This is called Mike. He got sick. I've been out of training for. I don't even know a month. Not much. I mean, I was about as green as you could possibly get And I'm in the Melville Office of the Secret Service in Long Island. And boss comes in. And he says, Listen, you were an alternate on it on a trip. I'm like a trip. You know where trip to the city. I was along God, He's like no foreign trip to Russia and this guy Mike got sick. So you know you're going, Mikey B. We'll call him, he says you're up. You want to go and I was like Russia. I'm telling you, like New Jersey is, the father said, I think I've ever been outside of training. The first time you travel overseas to a country that's not necessarily a friendly and I think we flew a C five a over there, and there's these massive cargo doors and lower. I'm telling you, I want to be dramatic, but it was like something out of a movie. The cargo doors are dropping or because we fly with all the president's cars and everything you know it's a free ride. Just jump on the plane. It's going down at lands and, you know, the guy comes on board the lead advance agent He's like, you know, Welcome to Russia was seriously was out of salt Look like something out of the movies or I'm a young kid, you know, in my twenties. You know, being overseas where the rules don't matter like they do here. There's no real rule of law in Russia. Whatever works for Vladimir Putin works me. Wasn't Putin back then? But you get the point. When you fly back to the United States, you land and J B a joint base. Andrews used to be Andrews Air Force Base. And you see that flag man? Stars and Stripes. Uh, there ain't nothing like it. Goose bumps, It was the first time and you know every foreign trip I took after that we got back safe and there were no problems and you see those flags Erin Andrews. We thank God.
Sweep Sweep and Away! A relaxing bedtime story for kids
"I hope you are tucked in nice and cozy okay. I think we're ready to begin our story. Let's be calm on our way island. our story today is sweep. Sweep and away skipper. The street sweeper was happy fellow. He just loved cleaning the streets of our island and keeping the island beautiful for everyone to enjoy and today was a very exciting day. It was the first of the month which meant he was going to sweep over by the school and the library as well as the post office and the grocery store there usually were very interesting things to see and sweep away when he was cleaning in town. It was bright and early morning when. Marta opened the overhead door to the garage. Where skipper was waiting. Marta was his driver and he thought she was such bond to work with while she was driving. Marta liked to listen to really happy. Cheerful and skipper loved the music to sometimes. Marta would just saying or Melody and she had such a pretty voice. Marta also would wave hello to everyone. They passed while cleaning the streets. All the friendly waves back made skipper field really appreciated ready to go buddy. Marta called as she patted skippers hood. Skipper was so excited. He wanted to shout. yes from the rooftops.
Telegraph Fire Tops 88,000 Acres, 76% Contained
"The world in Oak Flats now heading home. The Telegraph. Fire is now 76% contained near Globe fire spokesman Dean McAllister's say, as firefighters are letting the blaze burned down at this point, did some burnout around the canal peak electronic sites in the summer homes up there. And so we have created this island of fire that now outside the main body of the fire, which is really in pretty good shape, almost 1000 personnel still at the blaze this afternoon that has burned more than 88,000 acres out. Buildings and homes. McAllister doesn't think the Telegraph Fire will merge with the Mass Cal Fire update on the most scalp fire. It's burning 12 miles southeast of Globe. It is now 85% contained it spurn more than 72,000 acres. Firefighters on the line this afternoon battling increasing winds and low humidity. It is
Ice Shelf Protecting Antarctic Glacier Is Breaking up Faster
"A new study says a critical Antarctic glacier is looking more vulnerable as satellite images show the ice shelf that blocks it from collapsing into the sea is breaking up a lot faster than before the pine island glacier's ice shelf loss xcelerated in twenty seventeen causing scientists to worry that with climate change the glacier's collapse could happen a lot sooner than the many centuries predicted the study's lead author is Ian jock in a university of Washington glaciologist who says long shore winds tend to bring more penetrating deep water into the cavity which leads to melting that spend the glacier up that cause more fracturing that because this part to break off and there's a potential feedback you know now that it's twelve percent more the ice shelf maybe have been weakened that much more according to a study in Friday science advances the ice shelf has retreated by twelve miles between twenty seventeen to twenty twenty I'm Shelley handler
Bills That Could Force Big Tech Breakups Unveiled in House
"A bipartisan group of lawmakers is proposing sweeping legislation to curb the power of the nation's big tech companies like apple and Facebook a house subcommittee on antitrust legislation has concluded Facebook Google Amazon and apple abuse their market power charging excessive fees crushing smaller companies and extracting valuable data from users who can't really opt out Rhode Island Democrat David Cicilline he says right now on regulated tech monopolies have too much power over our economy the proposed legislation targets the structure of the companies and could force them to sever their dominant platforms from other lines of business it's considered a big step for Congress and many Republicans who have spoken out against big tech dominance still oppose congressional intervention Jackie Quinn Washington
Revisiting The 1977 Dutch Train Hostage Crisis
"It was just dawn on a pleasant spring morning. When dutch marine commandos crept up to a motionless train. The cars had been the home of fifty one hostages for the past twenty days self malone gunmen guarded their captives who they hope to use as political leverage. The terrorists demanded that their pacific island home formerly dutch colony and under indonesian rule be given independence while the marines began boarding the train. Five jet airplanes dropped smoke bombs from above a journalist with the associated. Press was reporting from about three quarters of a mile away from where the train was located. He described what he experienced. The ground is trembling. They're firing a lot of firing. Everybody reporters photographers police. Army men are ducking down behind armored personnel carriers later it was estimated that over fifteen thousand bullets had been discharged by the military at the train. One of the hostages ought to j. tweaked woke up two gunshots and tried to take cover tweaked described the ensuing chaos to the new york times. We heard machine guns then. A horrible noise. I thought they were burning their way into the train. With acetylene torches or flame throwers later. We realized that they were planes. Flying over at the same time. Additional marines driving a tank stormed a small village school twelve miles away. The terrorists were holding another four hostages there between them. The two parties of more than two thousand soldiers and law enforcement officers freed fifty five hostages. The fighting six of the terrorists and two of the hostages were shot and killed. Some citizens wondered if such a dramatic show of force had really been necessary to finish the standoff but prime minister yoked and oil defended the operation in a radio broadcast claiming the government didn't have any other choice.
Aaron Mullaniff and Katy Beehler Discuss Bookshare, an Accessible Online Library
"My name is aaron. And i'm working as since you started this officer with the ncbi for viewers and our listeners. Today that is actually kinds of blind all the way over in ireland and one of the services at insight which i have been heavily involved in over the last number of years is the library access service and about three years ago. We sold to go international to find best practice solutions to major problem. We were having When it came to blind division students accessing their curriculum in a timely former that question indeed has brought us to attack. Who are who. We ultimately partnered with to create the largest digital library in ireland which is now called berkshire are. I'm delighted to say that we've been joined here today by katie bieler. Who is product manager in global literacy at benedict who has played a huge role in bringing book shirt. Ireland so katie. Maybe we'll just start off by telling us a little bit about yourself on indeed butcher. Thanks our end banking introduction as you said. I am product manager global education and literacy I came to software product management by way of the publishing industry actually and have worked and software service products for almost ten years. Now i joined about two years ago. And i'm one of the leaf product managers on cher bookstore. Initiative is the world's largest digital library of accessible e books for people who read differently with people or book share people with dyslexia linus low vision. Zero quasi and other print disabilities can access over nine hundred. Fifty thousand evokes informat audio audio plus islands tax radio enlarge on the gook share team. I have the great privilege of helping to create another way. Book share members to read their books by adding smart speaker option.
"c. long island" Discussed on High and Mighty
"Day of it like here. It's like you go to the beach the beach for a couple of hours you come back there when you go to the beach like people go like they're going to war with like four like four coolers of shit all the furniture, a tent, three different umbrellas like they're fucking the super soaker like ready to do the shit and they're ready to be out there for twelve hours and I think that has a lot to do with like so-called versus northeast weather where it's. Like you have your summer and then even your summers not all nice days because you get rain and then you have workdays. So then you have like maybe twelve days a year that lineup that it's nice weather and you're off or whatever. So you gotTA squeeze in like you're like, get the BOOGIE board get the coronas we're GONNA have real. We're GONNA MAKE SANDWICHES WE'RE GONNA, have breakfast lunch, and dinner at the beach you know what I mean like bring the radio to listen to the Yankee game where We get all the kids invite the cousins like it's gotta be forty because you're dedicating this Saturday to the beach and you're GonNa get up at seven, you're going to get there by eight. You'RE GONNA leave at dark gotta get. You gotta get up early if you want one a spot like near the water and to like a parking spot where you don't have to drag five hundred pounds of stuff half mile to the beach guy up early you're getting up crashed onto do that shit if you end up going to central mall or a few or whatever you gotta take the. And all that shit like when feel taste the latest once or twice? Due to some random delay, we'd be going in like field six will be close and because we were only ever going from like eight am to one PM my dad would be like well, and just like turn around field six. Right, right after we went through, just turn around and leave the beach, and this is something we prided ourselves on because once removed from Freeport, we technically lived like you we were zip code want culturally belmore. And we lived like just above sunrise highway right near the wants parkway. So we we used to time like door to door. We could get to feel six parking lot in like six or seven minutes from my mom's like driveway and that we prided ourselves on like how close to the beach and then we would always just try to beat that like I would leave. I'd leave myself with like fifteen minutes. Notice to get to work and I mean I'm sure the Tan shirts added to punch cards which was. Yeah. So, the way I would get the way I would get to work is I would Drive I would take before I had my car. I would bike down wantagh avenue all the way to the park. That's there where the where the where the bike paths starts and then I would take the bike path all the way down the causeway to the it was like right across it was like A. Bike it was it was it was widely after that summer. I had like muscles in my legs and I've never seen since before again, it was just sending sane ride pro you just remind me that's what that's what I WANNA do when I go back home I wanna ride the bike path again I hadn't done that forever I did like it's a great great ride. It's a great right and then it lets you in the park. Avenue and Merrick road where that place it's called Long Island cheeseburger. But we call the cheeseburger cheeseburger our whole lives because it had like the word written twice. L. Sketch. So we called this place cheeseburger cheeseburger and it to me it was like this place that. My mom would be like we're not going to cheeseburger cheeseburger. Shut up whatever like McDonald's and I remember when I was old enough to have my own car like we're gonNA cheeseburger cheeseburger when it was. Absolutely medium Li fi also. This up for like seven years and that was just the beginning of being let down by things I didn't know about for the rest of. It was it was that's a fun bike ride Emma. One of my friends had figured out. How to sneak into the to Jones beach amphitheater through like the swamp. That off of the bike path, he had figured it out and he was like I can't take you because I legitimately don't want too many people to know how to do it but then he took me one time and. They probably have changed it. Now, there's been a number of years, but he would leave his bike a certain area through this legitimate. He'd put on like a like rain gear and stuff thorns and you're going through all the nettles and and then he would hop wall that would basically be like where concessions is, and then he just like quick change and act like he was like working concessions walk through any. was unbelievable scam. That's I'll tell you the best version of that was working at Jones beach when a cool concert was in good friends I worked at the Zach's Bay beach, which is that Bay right next to the amphitheater. Be Like Gabor's come on over. We're going out on Kayaks with beers like after the beaches closed and you would be able to get close enough to hear the music but just be floating in the middle of the Ocean fucking slamming beers. It was a fucking I in the middle the bay a fucking time. This thank you for having me on this. This has been in crow or are you kidding thank you for doing this man. So I know you have a shit ton of stuff going on, but you also have a new podcast with. With Shay Right. You want to talk a little bit about shots here for people that check out connect. We shape, pick some movie, I pick a movie. Then we talk about the theme and the different ways that they connect and it's been fun I. Hope Ange. So check it out. Yeah that's right just to give a taste of the most recent one was. The. Movies to not watch on a plane and it was La Bamba and. What was World War World War Z. World War. Two. Brad Pitt Plan B.? Action Zombie Apocalypse Movie World War Z in which the scene in this being a. Zombie outbreak on the plane that's like leaving Israel and it crashes Oh. Great. Great. fucking seen. Great believable. Seen that movie is kind of low key underrated. Somehow I feel like I don't think it gets enough credit. It's it's really fun and the idea of shooting a machine gun into a Blob of zombies seems appealing even though I'm scared of guns and all that same. And you're at. Net W three a on. I'll tell you in all this when it comes out. Thank you so much, Jason. Thanks for doing this. But this was a blast man I'm glad we got to catch up and. Tell tell your girlfriend. We should we'll do a long island we'll take on Long Island She's going to be absolute throw. Thank you Johnnie all right I, appreciate it by shits..
"c. long island" Discussed on High and Mighty
"Adams with like a Straw in. Unwieldy. To hold and like arguably hot by the time you get to the back half of it but to get that much beer for like four twenty, five on the ride unreal and then you get your. Your car is a half mile from your house because you live close to the transition while you're like this is a dangerous drive. I'm doing I'm going like I'll go on a half mile but I'm too drunk to drive. I remember when I first started taking those trains. I was like, wait a second. You can just buy like literally right here on the contract like the biggest beer I've ever seen in people just get fucked up. Okay. Last April me and my. My wife and I were like we've always wanted to see a billy Joel concert at. MSG. Like of course, it's like a long island fuck in Bingo check board. But so my mom had gone we talked and she's like I'll buy tickets for you guys if you'll like fly in and make a weekend and we started like randomly this one weekend we were supposed to be in for a wedding and Billy Joel was playing. We were like mom what about this is like four months in advance like mom what about able? and. My wife is like Oh. We should stay in the city and I'm like, no, we're staying at my mom's house. She's like, no stay in the city all our friends live in the city. That's where we met and I'm like, no, we have to commute into the concert. She's like, what do you mean? Oh, Mike just wait and see you'll see and it was a fucking highlight. We're all on the train we get on the train platform. It's me and my two brothers everyone's girlfriends or wives, and my mom just like the seven of us and all me and both my brothers each severally brought so much fucking alcoholic. Fifty minute ride. But my brother was like I brought a six beer on my I made four huge vodka and Sodas Mike Pinera comes to my mom has at the House for whatever reason and we got fucking gas and my wife's like I'm so glad we took the long island railroad I go. No. This isn't even why we took it. You'll see why we took it when the concert lights out and you go from square garden with everybody had billy Joel of. Station immediately onto a train everyone is hammered singing people have. Why? How And it was. The vibe is going to be unreal and it was what Long Island to me a nutshell at felt a little scary. But all in all was just people trying to have fun but there is that element of fear about. Sorry. We've talked about this a second ago back to. The whether you WanNa stay for life or leave immediately upon becoming conscious. I've now like come around to another level of consciousness where I'm like. I can appreciate Long Island I. Have This weird distance from where I'm like obviously anyone listen to my pockets or should I do I talk about it relentlessly but I've come back to it in a way and now moving to La helps even more sort hurts even more where I'm like this long island foam on the pandemic is hitting even harder like I associate it with seeing my family and my nephews and I just have this weird pining for long island that I'm going through right now and feeling the same thing now too because my godmother and my godfather who we who? Live did they lived in the same complex as in Queens I've known them my whole life they live on Long Island. Now, my brother lives like eight minutes away from. My mom in the House we grew up in, he's got he's got he just had a kid so I have a nephew. And my mom sending me pictures like literally every day of like them doing stuff there in the backyard barbecue or whatever it is all. There's no corona virus among island for some reason somehow according to my family do this is weird. One of my brothers still lives with my mom. My brother does live in bellmore eight minutes away from my mom with his kids. It's so clear and they're all together. My mom has a all the Time Warner Yard. It's like the summers them take a picture and I don't even let I didn't like living there and I get stressed after forty eight hours of being there but I'm craving just going back and. Seeing, everyone and getting the fuck out of there but it's not gonNA happen anytime soon and that part of it really sucks. You ever think so like we've. Both kind of had the same kind of arc and you live on Long Island? And you go live in New York for a while now in La like. Your purse, you'd like a working an entertainment at the at and you know people who are doing it too like I know people at different levels who are doing it sometimes, it's you go back and you're like so my friend who's like a producer on this and Blah Blah Blah, and then I'll catch myself saying I'm like man what the fuck of my even how did this even happen? That I'm saying Shit like this and but at the same time, it's totally these are like totally like normal jobs that you would have out here because it's like an industry town, but it just sounds like I'll catch myself from that perspective of like a kid on Long Island I'm what the fuck my even talking about right now I do I remember when my brother when I lived in. My second apartment in Brooklyn when I was living in Red Hook with my wife and my brothers. texting with my brother and my off to go to the cafe like Oh. So you can have wi fi and your taste and it was like Oh my God. Yes. WHO HAVE I become? An hour later I came back around I was like, wait a minute. Mock me. Wireless Internet but that is like the long island attitude. Let me guess you can't have your fucking and you gotta go to the cafe to get the Internet like. Yeah wait no, that's okay. That's city. Life Yeah. That's that's that's another great point. People don't really bus balls out here like that feels like a very, new? York. Long. Island thing is like grow but his busting balls out there with my girlfriend I was busting my godmother's balls for as busting Freddie's balls and and then I actually legitimately said I'm just busting his balls and she's like I can't believe people one that you just make fun of each other and to like you just used sincerely used the term busting balls like yeah. We bust each other's balls out here. This is what I said to my wife. The other day I'm like I think everyone on Long Island is ten percent funny or higher I mean obviously like we got Eddie, Murphy, Seinfeld, Junkie very.
"c. long island" Discussed on The Body Serve
"Famous for her friendship with Elliot Gibson they played doubles together at Wimbledon winning the one, thousand, nine, hundred, six, Roland Garros, and Wimbledon titles. They were to outsiders who partied together. They went to dinner a nightclubs causing quote harmless trouble. which I enjoyed because you so frequently hear about Alpha as a pioneer as this very serious figure and. Kevin Mitchell, in this wonderful article in the Guardian Shows Alpha and Angela as these two young women who were just out to have some fun. Have a few drinks hang out in a few Peres nightclubs and just chill unfortunately for a lot of black woman, you need that white person with you to be able to have those moments right at that time. Sadly, bucks was. Never Given lifetime membership at Wimbledon despite continued attempts over the course of sixty years which she blamed on anti-semitism. This is a Wimbledon doubles champion she was inducted into the international Jewish Sports Hall of fame and the Black tennis hoping really because of her both our friendship with the Gibson and also her rallying to raise money for MS Gibson at the end of her life. Resting peace to both Bob rallied on Angela Buxton to lives well lived to people who made such great important contributions to tennis and you know what more one more rest in peace to cheesy vein from Paul's drag race season eight and all stars just one of the sweetest kindest presence we've ever seen on drag race. Chichi was thirty four years old suffered from SCLERODERMA was. Admitted recently to the hospital with pneumonia and sadly passed away just one of my favorite Queens an absolute light on the show. It was impossible to dislike her that by you accent I mean it's just is awful and you can see the incredible heartache from her peers on drag race that that she was very well loved. So I just want to remember xavien today Zaven Devonport. On that somber note. Thank you for listening to episode tool three. My name is Jonathan. You can find me on twitter at tennis underscored John and I'm James at Elliot. Jamar to else to tease we are the body serve on both twitter and instagram. You can find us on spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening till next time. Thank you very much. Our..
"c. long island" Discussed on The Body Serve
"Tick Tock were giving us the information we need but but in all seriousness I, expect a reporter to follow that quote up with. Well, you're correct that the virus has mutated. Once or twice however, the vaccines that are currently in production are expected to be effective against the mutations for these reasons that literally I learned that from watching a tick tock of a scientist researching vaccines like this is not the first time vaccine has been developed. You'd think so based on the way vaccines are talked about the history of vaccines has been by and large percentage. So highly effective that leaving room for this kind of doubt and skepticism is just so wildly irresponsible. Your thoughts are not expertise. There's no space for your thoughts to undercut the taking of a vaccine in the public. Discourse there just isn't no but please understand that this moment I'm criticizing the writer on the publication that let that quote sit there right like this is not a press release. This is not a succession of quotes from somebody this is a story and when when you print the quote that is patently false, you should provide context I'm saying this is the job. This is a double headed attache earlier this year you're going at one thing I'm going the other both messed up. So moving on, you know there's a lot of quotes here. This is the kicker. This is the real good stuff. Novak was asked about the tour, of course. said. I've done anything bad to be honest. I do feel sorry for people that were infected. Do I feel guilty for anybody that was infected from that point onward and Serbia Croatia and the region of course not it's like a witch hunt be honest. How can you blame one individual for everything and so I think he he probably meant do I feel guilty for everybody who was infected in the region from from that point onward which I think changes the meaning of the quote quite a bit I'm giving him. A little bit of generosity either. But then you say witch-hunt like this is the language of a certain set of. Like. Why are you invoking that term first of all, when Gregor Dmitrov came back to the media spotlight after his bout with corona virus, he expressed whether or not a was sincere he expressed regret and guilt for people that he may have been responsible for infecting. Right he said he couldn't live with the idea that he could have hurt other people. This is the opposite of that. This is literally gave you the template right and again like you can not believe Grigore when he says that that's your prerogative this is quite the opposite of that and I just I have trouble understanding this approach I understand that Novak may feel that he's always been on the backfoot. With the media and certainly there's a group of his fans who feel that he is consistently persecuted. That's what this quote tells me right without what this quote tells me is that he also believes that yet what he's also conflicting medio with fans bright and people who aren't friends of a lot of this is coming from regular tennis fans who are not having to to.
"c. long island" Discussed on The Body Serve
"US Open, and folks who talk about the US Open try to steer as far away as possible from acknowledging the Long Island -ness of it. Like it's always New York Manhattan it. So glamorous it. So this You know the just embrace lean in Long Island like technically queens itself is on long. Island just deal with it. They've tested everybody about fourteen hundred people on the Cincinnati bubble. There was one positive test, which I actually think was not bad one, hundred, fourteen, hundred, not it turned out. According. To Sebastian talk of Leeann from Argentina it was Juan Manuel Galvan who is the physio of Gedo Paella, and because of close and prolonged contact Paella Hugo, del Yen, and pillows. Coach Jose Acasuso were all removed from Cincinnati they must isolate for. Reports about this I've read twelve days of ten days, but they have to isolate because they were in close contact with the person who tested positive as far as how the actual on-site stuff is working. We've seen a lot of videos with players in these corporate suites. It appears that the top thirty, two seeds on both sides of the draw have been granted, gifted bestowed upon these luxurious suites that they can. They can stay in while on site naturally living out of those sweets but you see videos of players waving to each other hitting balls to each other across the court. Nearly Sokha sweet is apparently besides Stephanos. Sweet it's made for for some entertaining content I have not enjoyed any of it. So it hasn't been entertaining to you, correct. Okay. Right. Switching gears for a minute Christopher Clarissa secured this zoom scoop with Novak Djokovic Zoom. Scoop riot. Oh my God. That dates us a lot. So. The New York. Times posted a interview with Novak, Djokovic with which clary conducted over Zoom Novak is here you know he was asked about everything was asked about his position on vaccines about his decision to come to the US Open about what he did during quarantine, and of course, this made the rounds on tennis twitter. But if you expected Novak to come to Long Island after all the missteps of the spring and summer with words that would kind of make up for some of it in some way you would have been disappointed. I quote I, see that the international media has taken out of context a little bit saying that I'm completely against the vaccines of any kind my issue here with vaccines. If somebody's forcing me to put something in my body that I don't want for me, that's unacceptable. I'm not against boxes of any kind because who am I to speak about vaccines when there are People that have been in the field of medicine saving lives around the world indeed exactly. Indeed it's it's you've got it there. You got it. I'm sure that there vaccines that have little side effects that have helped people and help stop the spread of some infections around the world. Well, yes they're. They're handmade polio, some incredibly destructive Disease Eradication Fund, the planet imagine that. And I can guarantee that he has all those vaccines. I I should say I want to remind you that we were not part of the international media that claimed he was against all vaccines. Correct. We said at the time that this is translated it is unclear if he means he is skeptical of this hypothetical vaccine or all vaccines that was not clear but we also said and we were clear about this point that him offering those words even if prompted did nothing to help anybody will right I'm talking about a vaccine that literally does not exist. He goes on to say how are we expecting that to solve? Our problem when this corona virus is mutating regularly from what I understand. So here's my problem with this I'm going to switch gears from Novak and I'm going to take aim at the journalist and the editor that allowed that to sit there because I expect more from journalism who is a journalist Clary okay and edited the peace and let it go to print out the new. York. Times I expect more from journalism. When someone says I think the virus is mutating and vaccines will not be effective I expect a journalist to look at I don't know Google Tick Tock..
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"Scored wins over Mubiru Spirulina Fundra salvo and Cocoa Gov at this tournament Brett. So she was building this great momentum in the beginning of the year has clearly continued it and I would say she's one of the more low key players in the top forty fifty or so this is our first WTO title was the first final as well as she sort of building up slowly but surely at Twenty Five even though tennis skews a bit older now she is still kind of a late bloomer she went to college. She was part of a a national championship team at Ucla, and she's really starting to come into her own now and she's just very work person like she just gets down to business and does it her opponent in the final Jill Teichmann? A Swiss player lefty is probably one of the most anonymous yet successful players in the WTO top sixty. She's somebody who won to tournaments last year. This is the third time that they played having split matches previously, and she had a great tournament herself mowing don't appeal to the final four, Gen Brady Stockton, and reaching the doubles final. All right now, we're off to the bubble. I feel like you expect Amore. If you of response for winter sat down and I got nothing the Cincinnati New York City bubble has begun players started flying in from all over the place getting tested. It's so strange isolate hosts for their test Cincinnati was announced as being part of this tandem bubble right, and then the Kentucky Tournament was announced after that and if you know anything about the Geography of America you know that Cincinnati Tournament is like thirty minutes from Kentucky crossing into into Kentucky, and so why are we having Kentucky but we couldn't have Cincinnati insensitivity. Well, it was really just timing and Lexington does about two hours from Cincinnati was more of a rhetorical question to to highlight just how kind of on the fly in haphazard this tennis planning. Had to be in the face of this. Right now, lest you think we're letting them off the hook. Completely that is not the case moving to that. Bubbles can be burst rights and. you know some some players have been skeptical of this so-called bubble because it is not actually a bubble. You'll you'll have to room there for interrogation one where the other is not a debate. It's not a mobile okay yet, but it does seem that Stacey allaster and the gang have tried to create some pretty rigorous health and safety protocols as much as possible. It's not a surprise that things are pretty well organized with Stacey Allaster at the helm. This is GONNA be incredible test of her leadership in her first year in the role. But the thing is there are still immense risks. No matter how many precautions we take. This is unpredictable. It's highly infectious. Things can happen no matter. How many precautions you put in place you're also dealing with the players and their pushback in making things as amenable for them as Pasta. Okay. So here's the problem. These precautions rely on human beings to trust each other and also. To take responsibility for each other's safety to have each other's best interest at heart, not just themselves and their on comfort. So head of the bubble, this is still a few weeks out from US Open Christopher clary and other journalists tweet about this secret zoom call where the top twenty consider. Supposedly they considered boycotting the US Open if certain demands were not met and. One of those was the requirement to quarantine when you return to Europe after playing in New York this was confusing to me because this is a European Union thing. This is not a US rule and it was disappointing because they were eight appeared based on what we were told there were trying to pick away at safety protocols were.
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"You can beat the goat in one week in men losing qualifying I also wanted to mention that if like me, you are concerned about the state of Venus Williams, his game based on what you've seen over the last two years frankly a now being a newly minted forty-year-old this tournament just a laid all all those concerns because the fatigued though lumbering Venus Williams that we've seen over the last. Couple of years was nowhere to be seen in Kentucky Schorr. Perhaps game wasn't as crisp as it could have been, but she played two and a half hours against her sister and she was eager rearing to go at every point every stretch of that match she did not look fatigued for one second inches incredible in that heat on the other side of the draw Jennifer Brady is absolutely demolishing people. Where while the news media is fully focused on the Williams little section of that draw Jennifer Brady is just killing everybody in straight-sets deploying an impregnable. The entire week winning over ninety percent of her service games yet never losing more than four games in any set beating both Cova in the quarterfinals with the loss of three games which that would really surprise me Coco Gov who had some big wins this week beating her two and four Coco was such a wild card. Her head is screwed on right. She knows how to win tennis matches that she probably shouldn't win but brady was I mean damn. Near perfect this week, I tuned in to watch this massive forehand and what I got was this incredible defense on top of that huge forehand and reliable penetrative serve She's got a lot of weapons and at twenty five years old she's building off of her start to the year and seems to be putting it all together. Her first WTI title had previously made the semifinals in Nottingham and Dubai Nottingham coming last year, and then by this year she she's Beaten a number one player before in Barton. She's also.
"c. long island" Discussed on The Body Serve
"But. I. Don't I really don't have any regrets really. Don't I've I've lived exactly how wanted to? I've tried my hardest every single time win the matches that maybe I should always wind or. But I really get a mile so that he is. Hello everybody. Welcome back to the Body Servant Jonathan? And I'm James. This is episode two or three. So much has happened in tennis since we were last on air. It was a challenge to put together an agenda that was coherent and timely because the moment you put something on paper or something else happens tennis has been moving at a frantic pace as everything's started to come back to life yet, we've had our first official events since March starting in Italy and then in Prague, and Kentucky, the hasn't resumed yet, but they will tomorrow in Cincinnati having playing qualifying in Cincinnati before we get into what's been happening just a quick note to thank you all for reaching out regarding or last episode it was to be Cliche a Labor of love and we are that you enjoyed it. Yeah. You know it was laborious but those are fun to do I continue to find gaps in my historical tennis knowledge and it's it's really cool to be a lifelong learner about the history of tennis where to start. You wanted to start with pronunciations or yes. That's right. The WTA has asked players to send an audio clips of them, pronouncing their own names which the. On its website for a little while this is where we get a bit sanctimonious about it. We have always tried to pronounce names properly we have often failed. We will continue to try and it's easier. No because we have all the tools at our disposal. It's in the trying. And while I don't expect us to get it one hundred percent right all the time we did spend about fifteen minutes today going through player pronunciations that we'd be talking about on this show. Now, what just fail I know you really setting us up. To be mocked here. But the point is that commentators very often do not try at all. No not that they can't make those sounds with their mouths is that there's not even really an attempt to to put emphasis on the right syllable or any of that like listen after this was announced and folks started to be aware of these pronunciations being available. There was a British commentator I don't know who it was who went with Mutuel. So you know there's being wrong and then there is making a making an attempt to be in the general vicinity.
"c. long island" Discussed on High and Mighty
"Yeah I wanna you know and we kind of brought out a little bit over hockey and acting and and that was my first job so what I ended up doing those like I can't move back home my parents after Undergrad like after getting away and living on my own and my where you living on your own in the city so in the city so we got a after you see the suit job carried you into getting a Manhattan apartment. Never took the job. Oh you took it right into to the bartending job right right this bartending job believe it or not got me into the city because I was commuting by car to your mom's house but no what I decided to do because I'm independent and now I've lived alone is I'm not living at home. I got a job that pays me money me and my friends got a six person person loft in the financial district. That was a city block. Mom and one window was on Water Street and one windows on Pearl Street Watt Watt listeners a gutted three story walkup Loft G. This thing was huge like could like if somebody was at the other end of the lofty the you could not even know you were they were home and we were all poor college kids but very like you know. I don't know just like feeling no like we could do anything and we're like we live here. We're to build walls and we're going to build rooms that we're GonNa fucking live in Manhattan. You know doing the math on the ranch. It's only it's only gonNa be six hundred dollars. Each a month. We get six or seven people in here. That's going to work and we literally brought sheet rock. 'n fucking two by fours up a three story walkup in Manhattan and built rooms rooms and six of US lived in this in this apartment and I reverse communication with my car from New York City to Long Island to work his job aw city living in a loft bartending at a fancy Italian restaurant online economically sound and so I'm paying aim for a spot at South Street seaport to then drive to Long Island now the only good thing is because it was a restaurant I was off peak rush hour right so you're driving there at three in the afternoon to noon four in the afternoon and then come back home after twelve from long island to the city because that's what most people everybody commutes. That's just like a total lake. I think that's just like the metaphor my life. Everyone commutes from Long Island to the city but I know the city too long to think outside the walks here and make my life harder. That's pretty much everything. What were you getting the benefits of the city where you're getting go out in the city on your nights off daytime getting and be a DH it was it was six of us? We all went to college together. Some people were from the area people weren't everybody was kind of hustling jobs just to be able to live in the city. You know obviously there were six of us so right. It was early affordable. I live three people in a two thousand square foot loft with my bedroom was above the dining room and we had pods like you had to co op ladder but you couldn't stand up in my room and the dining room so we split we split split the Lockton half the long way the worst way. That's another thing like I feel like that's such a New York. City is like they encourage you to split rooms and put up walls and you like this. This is the studio office you could split it so it's like okay could fit a twin bed. Yeah sure that makes sense. Let's do that like city kids look. I know no way you're saying. I want their like landlords. I WanNa get twenty four hundred dollars for this apartment. I know you two guys can't afford it but I'm okay. If you throw a third guy there and everyone only has paid money I want and if you're going to build a room when you guys leave up when three people in effort three thousand and they add to it and they're like you know what I gotTa Wall Guy to. If you needed to worry he'll come in. Put it in take it out. When you leave many scale? It's unreal but yeah so that was my first thing but what I made so much money at this restaurant. It was like God man. I was so stupid with it so the only downside of this gig was it was they wanted to have a really family feel so you had to work every day because they didn't want people to come in and not know you so I had to work six days a week this restaurant Ron but that's also coin. I was getting if you're getting six shifts a week and I was making so much money getting upset so what I would do is I would fly to Miami Miami on my day off on Sunday just because I had to work six days a week like it was stupid stupid. I'll put it let me let me live in New York. City the and actually enjoy myself you put away a bunch of savings and now you're not a dollar a working dollar. I was so stupid with that. I was making so much money like I had been making six figures as a twenty two year old talking like six days a week light tax laws there with the cash hash tips. I know it's one of those things like why did I do that for ten years and Baya fuck in apartments. I'm going you know I have to be an actor. GonNa live in fuck in the financial district of five my buds. It's the only way I'll be happy. You know it's so funny actually because so I ended up quitting wedding because it's not about the money man I wanna be an actor dude. This is not going to work for me you know and my boss who is the owner who really liked me but owned multiple on this whole. All these restaurants was like what are you doing. You want to be an actor and on my yeah yeah yeah you know and he's like I don't know what you're doing. You know like if you want to talk about I can help you know Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and did what how you doing and he offers me a job at at like twenty three twenty four to travel and open all his bars. I know an open all his bars for him. SET The bar train. The bartenders make the cocktail menus and then go and live another two months somewhere else so they were opening in places like Miami Puerto Rico Vegas Chicago. No I WANNA be an actor. This guy looked at me like I was fucking Outta my mind and I probably was but again hindsight you're like I could just knowing how the business works. I could've waited one year and that would have been the best experience on my shirt and I would be no different my career would be I no no it's true I did the exact same show so I know all about it's so true and I I had that fear that if I did it if I did anything like that and it and it was successful that I'd never come back you know get comfortable with the money in the lifestyle and I never really do it and whether that's true or not who knows but that was like my fear so I was like Nope Nope nope but it was weird because this dude respected the hell because he probably thought I was crazy dedicated to the fucking stupid idiot you know because everybody you know like those those owners that have all the money all they have all days guys that want something from them right so like when they have a guy that doesn't want anything from them like they don't know hot girl that everybody's chasing them. My turn advise them shit and you're like no. I'm good and they're like yeah you neg them. Exactly also Long Island Guys Long Island people when of all genders and especially in the restaurant is all they talk about is money all they care as people are so I I was a bartender at the the Hofstra bars I worked for like two nights a week all summer in the off in their off-season like our when I was home in the winter in the summer and all they talked talked rows Braga three twenty five cash last night and I'm like fog. I only got to forty nine talking about it and it's like fucking twenty two I was making I made three hundred dollars cash tonight and I was working fulltime Jones Beach for sixteen fifty an hour. It's unbelievable. It's funny I worked at a I worked at Monterrey's. Oh Shit Yeah. Poultry believe that whole strip is gone. I went back. I went home a couple of months ago party. I don't know they shut all that shit down corvettes. That's McKee when I partied acrobats. It was called BOGART's. Yes I used to go to Bogart's would you could you'd probably attest to this. It used to be eighteen to get in twenty one to drink so swim twenty one to go under so I would have fake. ID At sixteen four four eighteen to get in and then obviously you try to get somebody by jury yeah I used to get him with fake Hofstra. Id that had to F- Senate seriously and it was my picture and it was a poorly made and it was like you know I'm a freshman at Hofstra sixteen years old. Go into a fucking bar code was amazing. I I mean I know a lot of people drink young there but long island the culture culture is like weird it's like how do we all know in freshman year of high school. It'd be like you gotta get fake. ID'S WE'RE GONNA start drinking every Friday and Saturday night and you're like what the fuck I know but it's also like now now you could look back on it and be like what the fuck was going on but like at the time right. You didn't know any better right like I I didn't. I just thought Oh this is what everybody in the world. Does it's like Yes oh. The Juniors and seniors are doing this on the weekends so that's what I when I'm a freshman sophomore. I'm going to do on the weekend and hopefully eventually the seniors will invite me over to their circle or whatever you know what I mean that Weird Shit where you're just like. It's I partied. I partied like drank hard two nights a week minimum like thirteen toll twenty-seven always making these on my computer college at College we were doing some of the most sketchy shit like making fake. Id's it's crazy and some other stuff that I'll say off Mike cancel me but it is like federal offense. Stuff is canceled canceled government. Cancel me not like fucking with sketchy to women Gosh. They'll never tell an God. That's so funny but yeah. I don't know if it's like a cultural thing. It's so bizarre matters. There's so much on Long Island. It's so funny. Everyone's like s all like the gentiles are like aspirational Jewish. Yeah you know like my all. The Catholics are.
"c. long island" Discussed on High and Mighty
"At work for happiness. That's where it's easy to win our career tie like Oh shit yes. I made movie now. I'm happy you know what I mean and it's easy to like. I got booked who I got a thousand dollar a GIG. I'm now happy and it's like you can't seek happiness on your career. Now ideally you can get it or like if you're not getting you have to find it elsewhere outside of it for sanity hundred percent and like and you hear a lot of people talk about that shit too where it's like. They're like Oh yeah once. This happens then. I'll be happy right. A minute happens and you're like okay. I'm not happy or this. This crazy changed in happen. You know whether it's booking a role or being on TV show or whatever it is is your I can tell you like four distinct moments in my career where I was like well now on the Kinda guy that does this started indie movie. Mike Book into movies. That's my and I never was in another five five years ago and that's happened to be like three different points where I'm like well. It looks like your boy is a guy who's GonNa Blink from here on out and doesn't happen again for like three years. You're like okay so I'm not that guy. It's never what you think. That's never going to be what you gotta hold onto that Shit. They makes you happy and keeps you sane outside of it man I it took awhile. I'm just finally we starting to like. I think get better at it and like kind of come to terms with like Kinda balancing that shit you know where I used to just put all my emphasis on happiness and success is based on this fucked up career that we've chosen but yeah I know I mean not to get cheesy but like did you brothers they. They're famous like the cavalry in uncommon. It's not like everybody thinks somebody's GonNa knock on your door. It'd be like John Gabor's congratulations. You're except as a Hollywood. I have agents that I'm paying and they can't even do that for me if they're not going to do it for me. It's not gonNA come from a random or if I can't get them to work with the fuck is I was going to happen yeah so you you have to just like find it and I when you start to realize like when you're doing better mentally is when the three weeks where nothing's happening career wise you can kind of manage it sure and then when something happens. You're just like all right. Yes 'cause 'cause you're maintaining your mental health doing that other ship I it took me until last year to like think even consider why I was like miserable like and then I started going to therapy started making sure I exercise making sure I did things that made me feel. uh-huh better terrain started drinking and I was like Oh okay so the business beat me up a lot but I was also not mentally fully unloaded are fully equipped to be fighting it. Yeah I kind of a lot of people feel that way right you just like I'm so overwhelmed by the business and then like build up some of your own personal tools of happiness and mental health and then all of a sudden you're like okay. It is beating me up but it's not destroying me. I'm allowing myself to be destroyed by to know for sure. He's a great excuse excuse to be like not do anything with your life is like I gotta be by my computer. In case something comes in. I gotta be working. I'm going to be writing. I gotta be auditioning so you can fill up your time and then you're like oh but what would make me happy or what would keep me alive longer. Exercising Sports Competition outdoors time yeah and it's just it's somehow coming to grips with like okay. This is what I do with. This doesn't define me you know and being okay with like like you've got to be all in or all out and that's fucking walking scary man because it's like there ain't no guarantees in like that that that really fucked me up early you know because like it's always the what if like nothing happens like I'm fucked but now the idea of if something happens my whole life will change. I'll be loaded can keep you ride ride in like I think you could do three years of like collecting unemployment and like all the worst catering jobs you can get to survive to get through three years and then you go all right well now. I start to need something more than like the the possibility of a Sitcom over my head I know but it and it's weird too because it is one of those those industries stories where it can happen you know in a can like Hana change overnight where at least like ceiling is is kind of you know is kind of highly. There is opportunity a tune in there but yeah. I'm just trying to like I said I think I'm just better at the day to day like okay. This is what I am all in. This is what I do right you know how do I do it and and also maintain like some kind of sanity and Mental Focus Happy Happy Happy. What is that like? You know no now I want more. I like everyone else in this world. It's fucking as we all want more weight. So where. Where did you grow up that you played in Freeport are you? I mean so so I grew up in east meadow east met. Did you go to division or did you go. I went to I went to San Jose Grammar School. Then I went to woodland junior high school and then I asked my parents is sick. I am to go to Catholic school because the hockey because of the hockey team what what to Calemburg Calemburg. Oh okay cool so as crazy as that is at least to the Co ed one. Oh Yeah Yeah I don't think I could I could have did so Shamanov was like the sister school that was all boys and it was a it was where drew the line. 'cause I went to Catholic College. I went to marriage with Thai so everyone there was Catholic and or most people were Catholic or at least not Jewish so every long island personnel was there was from Calemburg Holy Trinity and Chamonix the three yeah yeah wasn't seen Anthony's like a hockey school to or yeah I think they because I think like they had a team. They weren't as like you're right yeah. They were kind of in the mix is to they weren't kids who were like in public school. Where like I hoping my parents let me go to Saint Anthony's because I wanNA keep playing hockey because it's not like a the public high schools don't have hockey ice hockey? It was like a weird thing like hockey in general the sport like because it originated in Canada like all like kind of the even like age wjr groups and restrictions and all that stuff is so different but yeah so that was like the first step was like Catholic school and then I also play travel hockey right and then at that point I was planning on like so many many teams that I that I mean Freeport you just were playing all over long island basically right yeah and of course like I went home not too long ago and Eisenhower Park built a two two to rink facility in the middle that is where the islanders now practice and it's like five minutes from my house and my mom's like you gotta be kidding me. I had to drive you. all those years ringcraft yes so I grew up there and then east meadow was so small. It's a funny you said is now look back to when I first started on the Bellmore Merrick central the high school district Swim Teams Swim Swim team like hockey not that popular needs a big piece of equipment to play it you not allow schools are equipped with pools so oh it was mapam. Calhoun Kennedy and Grand Avenue Junior High End Merrick avenue junior high all rolled into one sports you the eleven guys nine guys we practice at the freaked center for like my freshman through sophomore junior year and then Eisenhower Park where because they were having the goodwill games they're open that huge like lost leaders pool facility yeah I remember our practices switch. There and I remember my mom being at least not the giant Freeport every morning before school. Oh Yeah Oh that's fun get in the water six. Am I can't believe that all the time now if you told me like exercise is it six. AM before I'd be like fuck you worse I today I had to push back are one. PM appointment because I got a late start on getting to the gym Ah Thirty Thirty because at the gym and I have two more sets of the timing is just not going to work well. Yeah I mean I remember that too. That was awesome. I mean it's still there is no mark up like yeah they can do long course and then it can get divided down into two short courses which is just like the whole the whole array of diving boards had platforms like solid ones to ready for Olympic Games Commonwealth. I'm an wealth games are goodwill games one of those two if you sound one hundred dollars on the street. Would you pick it up up or would you keep walking of course you take the money. Hey I'm walking here with one hundred dollars. I just picked up Swan. You keep picking winners and not betting on them. That's why I go to mybookie. It's fast. It's easy and they pay when you win. Let's face it when you're just betting is just as important as who you're betting on. I do the smart thing if you're going to bet this football season season which is fun that with my bookie. Did you know you could bet on Games after kickoff in the second half. It looks like your bed is GonNa lose. You can always just take the other side. I you know hedge it a little. If the Kinda guy that likes to bet a little and win a lot you're the type of person that likes to bed a little and win a lot..
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"In that department and that november investigators announced that they believed all ten of those murders were done by the same person earlier they had speculated that there may have been more than one killer because there were some differences in the conditions of the victims but at this point investigators also also stated that they didn't believe the case of shannan gilbert was related to these other deaths shannon's body had been found in a marsh about a half a mile from a beach which which is where she disappeared from police believed that she had accidentally drowned after stumbling into a swamp in drug induced panic and the autopsy by michael title bayden concluded that her death and decomposition were not consistent with drowning bayden concluded that her autopsy findings were consistent with strangulation and we've talked about her height bone in why he said that but despite these findings authorities still do not believe that death is related to the long island serial killer and they still consider her death to be an accident in a really tragic twist to the gilbert family story shannon gilbert's mom. Mary was found stamp app today. In younger daughter sarah's apartment in july of two thousand sixteen twenty seven year old daughter sara gilbert had been diagnosed diagnosed with schizophrenia and she was charged with the murder. She pleaded not guilty of the stabbing but was found guilty of second degree murder. Sarah had stabbed apt her mother with a fifteen inch kitchen knife. Two hundred and twenty seven times then beat her with a fire extinguisher sprayed her with the foam from the extinguisher stripped off her clothing and removed her jewelry so this was a brutal her lack of a better word just crazy murder <music> over two hundred times instead. That's just a frenzy shows. A lot of anger should as and then doing these other things afterwards in the prosecution in the trial argue that sarah plotted the killing carried it out because mary head sara arrested months earlier for killing a puppy and she had taken temporary custody. Sarah son defense said the sarah snapped because of delusions brought on by a lifetime of abuse mental mental illness. The jury rejected the option was given a finding her not responsible due to mental disease or defect meaning that she is so mentally ill that she either didn't know or understand what she was doing or what the consequences were that rarely worse. That really rarely works as we sure. Several jurors said they had no doubt in sarah was mentally ill but they didn't believe it was a severe enough mental illness to resent her from knowing what she's doing wrong. Aw sarah's drug abuse worsened her psychiatric issues while sure can do that to the police and on the witness stands sarah said that her mother practice witchcraft for most of her life and was a demon and an evil. God show said that her mother was causing her to hear voices is anti hallucinating. She said she stripped her mother because mary was drawing power from her own blood and she wouldn't die so that's a lot of tragedy for one family. It is family well in the forty eight hours episode about this case you see sarah at a a younger age sweet girl. You know yes yes. It's just shocking that this happened. When interesting commented me if the jury we didn't have any doubt shoes mentally oh. How are they gonna judge hammers mental illness much mental illness. Wow that's an excellent point instead okay but are just not mentally. Ill enough well no. I don't think they're qualified to judge that but i think they they have to decide if she knew that she was doing something wrong. They decided that she did admit that. Anybody steps another person over. Two hundred times doesn't know i know i don't know some people know it's wrong and enjoy it. Speculation also well sure but i mean the one thing i'd say to what you're saying. There dick is that i think she definitely should have been in a psychiatric hospital in prison yeah and we know that this family had a lot of dysfunction in addition to any kind of mental illness. She might have had absolutely yeah so that's just it's really sad that whole family breaks my heart to endure all that they went through and then years later. You're the daughter chelsea in her. Life is ruined too so on december two thousand eighteen the suffolk county police department announced that the f._b._i. Had officially joined and there are long island serial killer investigation and that was after they'd been unofficially helping the police in searches for these victims for several years. You've investigators have speculated that other bodies discovered in these areas of long island could be the work of the long island serial killer. Although there isn't any hard evidence that links them in among these other victims are the dismembered torso of an unidentified young african american female that was founded it hempstead lake state park also a suitcase containing the dismembered torso of an unidentified hispanic or african american person washed washed up on a beach in lamar nak tanya rush thirty nine year old from brooklyn. Her dismembered body was discovered in a suitcase on the side of the southern state parkway bellmore new york also the remains of asian woman between the ages of twenty and thirty were found in a sandy area area on sheep lane in leading town and a thirty one year old woman named attache hugo who disappeared after leaving her home in queens <music>. Her body washed up by bill. Go beach in june of two thousand thirteen so we brought up dr hackett as a suspect. What do you think about that especially. The gilbert family really thought that he was responsible for shannon's staff was very suspicious. I know that this dirt consider certain things research. He had a way of inserting himself into things like this yeah yeah. He was kind of a publicity hound still questions we calling. Mary is very weird and denying it until it was proven and he said that contrary to rumors. No no neighbors called him that night. That shannon went running down the street pounding on doors. He told the author of a great book about the case which you're gonna mentioned in later that he actually told us colombian barbara brennan that the should've called that night that he might have been able to help shannon yeah heck it said that he would have retreated shannon if he'd seen her but nothing he had treated her so mary had claimed that hackett told her over the phone that he ran a treatment center for young women and then he had treated shannon but it is possible that hackett had said the same thing to marry on the phone. Nothing had helped shannon but that he wished you'd helped her. It could have been a misunderstanding. I don't know the extent of mary's problem this but i wouldn't be surprised if she did do some drugs. Now still that wouldn't explain heck it denying ever speaking to marry and then later admitting it after it was proven by phone records minnesota. I can't recall the conversation yeah. It went interview. He was like say. Can we just not deal with that right now or something yeah i meet. I guess it could have been forgetfulness but i'm more likely to think it was deception and i'm not sure the reasoning. I'm not sure if it's because he had done anything to shed it but it is questionable. I mean in interviews. He really has continued to be very vague about that night and the phone call to. Mary and that's just not the kind phone. Call you forget about big deal with <unk> right one example. He claimed that the first time i heard anything about shannon the several days after she disappeared that's when alex dias in michael pack came to the neighborhood flyers hang claims that he told them to go to the police. Shannon china lived in the reporter missing gave him his car told him he'd be happy to help the needed yeah. He remembered thinking that from a police standpoint this. This wasn't a little kid that was missing. She was growing up so police might have thought she'd gone off somewhere on her own and would come back eventually and probably wouldn't act real fast on on her being missing heck. It said the line of inquiry into him is totally ridiculous. He said i have a family practitioner on emergency physician a former former director of emergency medicine for suffolk county new york and then emergency department director at central suffolk hospital. Can you imagine me putting my reputation mutation on the line. Well i can imagine it. Maybe he said something that mary misinterpreted. Maybe he said something about how he works. In emergency medicine listen and knows about rehab hackett did have some enemies in the neighborhood so it's possible that they were happy enough to spread the word that he was involved in covering up of murder but until the day that she died mary believed that heater hackett shannon's killer so shannon case remains open and as i i said earlier the long island serial killer still at large don't appear to be any closer to solving this as they were years ago now now. I think the killer either moved away or died. Something happened but i mean the killer could have moved away could be doing this somewhere else. That's the scary part. They don't stop that usually now not until they're very old or something happens yeah so to find out more about this case. The book book that i mentioned earlier is called last girls at american unsolved mystery written by robert coker very well written. I like the beginning part. Oh you're all the stories about these young women starts because yeah <hes> back story of every victim while every known victim yeah. I really like like that. There's also a forty eight hours episode on this called the long island serial killer. There's a people magazine investigates also called the long island serial killer bees music was written and produced by tristen capelle. Our new website launched last week and it's pretty awesome. Thank you to matt global global attackers coating expertise for our team tag river members. Unfortunately we do need you to go to the website. Update your payment information. We weren't able to to find a way around that but i'll put the lincoln show notes in case. You didn't get my email. It's pretty simple. You just need to click on the link. Reset your password and under my account you choose change payment to enter your information..
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"Grade issues diagnosed house to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder she stayed at this elementary school until fifth grade and she was transferred to a school for troubled kids by the time she reached her teens mural had become too frightened of meghan to regain control over megan would make threats to her grandmother like i'll kill you in your sleep sleep. I'll stab you did so this was just beyond dysfunctional. Megan was a really unhappy child. She was angry and resentful from feeling like she wasn't getting what she deserved in life when she was in junior high uriel moved the family from downtown portland to scarborough which she's pretty much a nice area nice suburb lotta wealthy people there but they had a trailer on the western side of town in the trailer park. The single wide mobile home fourteen by seventy feet with three bedrooms and meghan felt resentful. Why do these other kids at school have more than her. She decided bright away that most of the people in scarborough were snobs and because meghan cape from trailer park she was identified as white trash. She started in regular classrooms but she suit was transferred to special ed it. When she started scarborough high school the following year she was putting the alternative part of the school for treble treble kits on many many occasions meghan was caught shoplifting from walmart and she ended up the youth center which is a jail for young offenders unders. She was released but sued caught carrying drug paraphernalia saw she was eventually forced to juvenile rehab seventeen. Gene megan stopped going to school as she did continue to live at home with muriel. She started working these low paying jobs. She got picked up by police a few times time for shoplifting and possession of alcohol then when she was seventeen megan found out she was pregnant. Father was a thirty two year old d._j. Who you may have met at a club in portland. It has sex in the bathroom. It's sad it really is a judge. In youth court ordered megan stay at saint andrews a home for unwed mothers from the length of pregnancy it just as a side note. I worked there for quite a while. Taking care of pregnant teens needs what are rewarding job. I really enjoyed it. I mean most of these young women were really trying hard to get better lives in a lot of them came from a lot of shit so was a great place but anyway meghan header baby girl in the summer of two thousand six and named her liliana when she went home to muriel's trailer. She seemed different. She seemed determined to straighten up her life for her baby but meghan began to feel some new pressure in a lot of disappointment the money she got from the state wasn't enough to feed and clothe her and the baby and she didn't want a future of living off government checks like her mom and grandmother had done meghan wanted wanted to give her daughter a better future but she made the wrong decision on how to reach that goal because she ended up buying ads on craigslist and working as an escort. You know what i bet a lot of that is because she didn't have guidance if your parents grandparents have never gone to college or really been able to do a lot in the outside outside world. How are they going to advise you to do that. So it's really a disadvantage just as much as poverty is that's for sure yeah. I think it's not just the money since the ease of making the money well yes the ease of the money but in the long run it's it's not easy any you're pretty life at risk when you're seventeen or whatever amount of money as an easy way to do it well well. I don't like the word easy it's acquai- there aren't as many steps to take is going to college filling out job applications going interviews. Who but i'm saying is assist nobody who taught her how to do that anyway so she was really on her own anyone to say right and these girls seem like they were smart smart girls for the most part who could have accomplished a lot of things so it's just really the whole disadvantage that comes with poverty. It's a lot more than just not having the money. It's it's not having a lot of things that can help you succeed in adulthood so i think megan's case is really a sad one four while sure logan's boyfriend usually accompanied her to meet clients but she was convinced to meet a client alone on the night that she disappeared just as the other young women had now. Can i just ask a question about these boyfriends who drive them there. What the fuck is with that driving just the driving but why would you take your girlfriend have sex with men and then use that money not feel bad about it. That's a good question yeah. This five asking her probably messed messed up the same way. Okay i mean two of these girls. Headway twins actually the other one into he called did have a boyfriend of some india boyfriends. She drives them to their dates. Excuse me i know well not only that they do it but me as a woman men if my boyfriend had said yeah. I'll drive you out there. So you could be an escort or you could give blowjobs or whatever the details of it were. I'd be well fuck you buddy buddy. Why would i want to go out with someone that wants to do that. That doesn't think enough of me. It's almost like sure very close to that yeah. I guess they don't take his highest percentages pinpoint but still it's disturbing so the last victim we wanna concentrate on today is maureen. Maureen brainard entered barnes who was twenty five years old and she was from norwich connecticut. She was last seen in july of two thousand seven marine marine <unk> story. She dropped out of school when she was sixteen and pregnant. She never went back by the time she disappeared that she had two children. Each of the different father when she was unable to afford our own apartment marina would stay at his sister's place for a while now or in moved into an apartment in orange connecticut was paid for her by her son's father. Maureen told her friends might be independent and onerous yeah well. She was never a girly girl. I guess but she developed early and was noticed by the boys in school. At a young age she had been with her boyfriend away from jason brainard barnes for just six months when she got pregnant with her first child he esther to marry him and she said yes and they had a small ceremony at the courthouse us in nineteen ninety nine and that was after mauri gave birth to their daughter a jason's grandparents place and then they moved down south outs for two years when jason join the army but after they returned to connecticut hit the marriage fell apart marine ended up moving in with her sister missy and mris children who lived in a low income housing development missy was the more practical sister but maureen was the one that everybody just adored. She was a dreamer in a romantic. So some parts of reality were hard for her to accept the best job she had as a card dealer at foxwoods casino ended ended in a little less than a year when she started calling in sick too much for a while she delivered pizzas and she worked registered a local drugstore but but then she started leaving her daughter with missy and going out on the town worried was an excellent writer thou and she filled multiple notebooks with poetry rap lyrics and and there's a book that i'm going to tell everyone about at the end of this episode where they actually have some of her writing in it which was really very good. I was impressed with her writing in two thousand and three marine was twenty one and she had a four year old daughter no job and no place of her own to live her music and songwriting wasn't giving her the attention that she'd hoped for she'd been using my space to market her music and to network with some other rappers and that's when she came across some ads for modeling. She got a friend to take some photos for it. She were a few different dresses in alesi nightgown in the photos but i mean they were far from pornographic or he got dozens of emails for places claiming to be legitimate modeling agencies but after a few clicks flex they would turn out to be hiring nude models only or they would be escort services in disguise aka prostitution rings so well clicking taking on some of these links maureen did notice how much money she could make a sex worker or an escort but she didn't wanna share the money with an agency so on craigslist maureen saw women who posted ads independently and she won't jay. That's a good idea so she began to advertise her services online and the money she earned was more than she could earn at any of the jobs that she was qualified to do over the next few years she would leave the sex trade for months at a time so she was trying to get away permit but she was always drawn back in by the money so when she went to meet that client that lasts day she'd been served in a fiction notice and she was really desperate sprit to make some money and he had convinced her to come out meet him and he was going to pay fifteen hundred dollars shoes last seen in july two thousand seven saint as she planned to spend the day in new york city after her disappearance a friend of hers named sarah cars received a call from a man from from an unknown number man claimed that he had just seen maureen issues alive staying at a whorehouse in queens he refused to identify himself and he can until sarah the location of the house told her he would call her back and give her the address but never called again. Let this just turned out to be someone who was a sicko so i guess because she wasn't whorehouse in queens we know that might have been the killer yeah. No one has suggested that that was to kill her but that's possible yeah the phone well. We don't know it was an unknown number so it wasn't marines thumb. Where did he get the number. I don't know maybe it was listed and with the other girl he actually used the missing girls phone yeah for her. Would he know burner phone. How would he know oh. I don't know that's a good point. He must've had some kind of knowledge of renew. Them could be someone who just need them. In june june of two thousand eleven the suffolk county police raised the reward for information leading to an arrest in these murders from five thousand dollars to twenty five thousand dollars dollars which was the largest reward ever offered.
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"She disappeared in september of two thousand ten and had been missing for nearly three months before her body was found. She lived moved within ten miles from achilles. Dumping grant amber was a survivor of child sexual abuse some survivors of childhood sexual abuse avoid sex ex- completely but others reopen their wounds over and over like the thing that can desensitize themselves for amer sex became way way to get some power control in her life by the time she was a teen sex meant nothing to her emotionally. When she was sixteen she started charging some some of the neighborhood boys for sex amber got a reputation when a rumor went around the che's spreading gonorrhea into the boys <hes> uh she reached adulthood became addicted to drugs continued to work in sixth <unk> whenever disappeared she was living with a male friend named day schaller collar. She worked as an escort prostitute getting her clients through backpage dot com dave last saw her when she left their home to meet a client she she'd gotten this call from a stranger they negotiated over sex and agreed at a much higher than usual price of fifteen hundred dollars so this offer it was just irresistible to amber she was addicted to heroin and she was supporting herself through prostitution so she threw caution to the wind that night and she headed out alone and sadly she would never return for safety reasons she'd been using dave cell phone to set up dates and that evening dave would remember. The man called her three or four times but she seemed to feel comfortable with him now his last call to hurricane at ten thirty p._m. And she left the house wearing a pink hoodie at a pair of jeans. Dave amber took risks but as a close friend he learned to accept it. S amber described yourself to southern del pictures should have to teach young women green eyes brown hair. I am who go buy new every few days in order to keep yourself at the top of the adult services session as she got now call to hotel or house. David usually drive her in wait outside in his car. More often clients who come to their house in that case could wait in the next throw them while there have been times when men did threaten violence in david had to intervene amber was so tiny. She was four feet eleven in weighed about one hundred pounds but she was tough. She wasn't afraid of too much on the morning of september. Third amber hadn't gotten back home. Dave called her her sister but the sister told him not to worry because that's just amber. She takes off all the time so he waited. You know it's just so sad because of for lifestyle. No one in her family reported her missing or even looked for they pretty much given up on her which is so sad. She was only twenty seven years old. Yeah somehow the killer convinced amber to be alone. She was experienced and she should know better but at the same time he offered a lot of money and consumed put her at ease. Don't forget she had a drug habit. I now but i would think that that persistence in that offer of so much money would be a red red flag to her probably should've been it's like too good to be true type of thing yeah yeah and at the same time thinking well. What can i buy drug roadways with this anonymity right. I mean fifteen hundred dollars is a lot of money that could get you through a couple of weeks. It could pay rent to get her drugs so so money went out over reason and i'm sure the killer new this right i mean of course he knew that these women are desperate for money in peru princi- and if he's an educated soft spoken man he could probably put them at ease and offer them so much money money they can't resist and then murdered them. Another one of these victims was from portland maine. Her name was megan waterman. She disappeared in june of two thousand ten and she was last seen leaving a holiday inn. Express now a really interesting thing about that is that is that this was the same hotel where a client had asked amber costello to meet him. Just a few weeks before amber was killed but amber had refused to do that that time so so it turns out. It's probably the same man megan was the youngest of these women that was murdered. She was just twenty two years old and she left behind a four a year old daughter. She'd been raised by her grandmother. Muriel new real had raised her own six children on around in downtown portland maine in early early on muriel had decided that her daughter lorraine was the bad one so lorraine became black sheep of the family but the designation wasn't completely honored because lorraine did get a lot of trouble she'd been on her own for a month when she met megan's father greg g-o-v and these two really didn't have anything in common common but laredo never had a boyfriend before so she was really into him and within a month they moved in together. They rented a room in a dodgy section of portland shortland. Then they ended up staying in a days inn and westbrook renting a room by the week lorraine had begun to drink a lot after getting together with gregg and then the relationship became very volatile and he became physically abusive then became pregnant she left with gregg but returned to him when they had their first baby and that was a boy who they named greg junior. They broke up again when she was eight months pregnant with their second can daughter and that was meghan and that pregnancy advanced. She quit her job at burger king and she got on welfare. When meghan was born she had an elevated billy remained level and that's something that needs to be monitored learning was supposed to bring the baby back for a follow up tasks but she kept avoiding the social workers didn't follow the thrill so mural became alarmed at the state could find the rain finally she learned megan was in the hospital with respiratory distress stress and that's when <unk> plant custody of nagin. Saint laurent was <unk> mother. She's an incident newborn and elevated khalil. Ruben levels are pretty common. Use it to no degree of concern while because it's easily treated to recognize go to do right and that's why she needed to bring the baby back for recheck exactly so when babies are going they have more red blood cells in the need once i started breathing with lungs so the red cells have broken down. One of the byproducts of the breakdown is billy. She's a yellow pigment. Now that's supposed to be metabolized by the liver but a newborn sliver isn't always up quite up to the task so you get really ruben staying in the blessed and that's what gives the the orangey yellow skin color to the days by itself is not a concern but if some of the duly ruben the billy room that's not bad any proteins and can cross into the brand cause brain damage so that's the concern yes so in the old days baby baby stick it break damage called curvatures so as long as you recognize it and the treatment is simply put into maybe i'd nadu looks fluorescent arrested lights. Metabolize billy room kind of worst case scenario is very high. You can do a transfusion and exchange moore blood cells which is pretty rare. It is yeah i mean i. I did a few back in the day but had than any. Your head wanted to do any new duties for about thirty years at the time. I retired so well that's because it's routinely checked something something. The sorts of protocol sport sharon should not ever happen provided his foul ups this concern back when they well then she ended up with respiratory distress and you don't know much more about how that happened. Do you want to add anything about newborns in respiratory distress. I know that could be many different causes too generic term so respiratory distress could be infection his cousin her lungs to have problems heart disease that makes you breathe fast could be other diseases that is so many things so respiratory distress us generic term for what happens with the baby while ya but with a newborn there really is blood work that needs to be done in a case like that virtues in the hospital so presumably shoes being tested for those possibilities way at by the time she was in the hospital but i just wonder how far that baby got before before she ended up in the hospital because it seems like lorraine was pretty careless not really on top of things so this there's another case. I guess i'm just saying that. I give the grandmother credit. I think she did the right thing yeah so we know that the state has foster care ready for these emergency situations situations so when little meghan left the hospital she along with her brother greg were taken from lorraine and placed in foster care but muriel would drive arrive every sunday morning to visit the babies. They were about an hour away. Lorraine was supposed to go with them but muriel said they could never find her. Silvio began to bond with her grandchildren and was kind of like a mother a grandmother she befriended the foster family and ask for more time with the two babies she. She wanted them all the time three months into foster care family. Let muriel keep the babies for the entire week. Rain will come round from time to time. She wasn't reliable. Bureau grew presenter has did the children as i got older. <unk> will really love the children rain sister. Mr has acknowledged that government support play a part in bureau's decision to take her youngest son is turning eighteen. She'd be losing state aid so so as she is in the care of her grandkids should get assistance n._s. One of the first thing she did when kids came to our house to live with two by for assistance sure well no. I mean if she loves them and she needs the state to take care of them. Were power to her. Her government misspent money on a lot stupider things than taking care of children so i'm all for that so muriel raised meghan inner brothers. If they were her own children's their father greg did visit the children per a few years but then he left town and disappeared on them lorraine did see them too but only when neural but allow it and this this was appointed contention you know there was some not great relationship things going on between mural and lorraine so many of megan's closest friends as she got older david know that she had a mother and those that knew knew that meghan hated her but megan had quite the childhood. She was not what an easy child she wasn't. She was pretty hostile out of control first time the police recall voter was when she's in first grade how about that ah leasing bridge connecting some buildings thirty feet above the sigua and she climbed over the railing when pack.
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"The women had done strangulation. Each of these victims had really difficult. Livestock died young so at like to go over a couple of their situations. Melissa barthelemy was twenty four years old. She'd been missing for year and a half winter. Body was found melissa came from a small town near buffalo new york four she attended beauty school and she moved to new york city to work as a hairstylist but melissa began working as an escort new york after her mother other lynn had not heard from her for several days in mid july of two thousand nine. She began calling everyone. She could think of searching for melissa. Lynn also so called the n._y._p._d. To file a missing persons report for three days the police refused to file the report because melissa was an adult and she had no history of mental l. Nece lynn even asked her attorney to get involved but the police refused to assign a detective to her case for quite a long time about a week later yeah melissa fifteen year old sister. Amanda got a call for melissa cell phone so she was excited. When she picked up the phone thinking melissa's finally calling thank god but it was really terrifying because it was a man on the other end of the phone so that was quite shocking remember. This is a fifteen year old girl who sisters missing so this man was described as emotionless softspoken any said horrible things to amanda about what he did to her sister in what he wanted to do <music> her making threats to her police would grow to believe that this caller was the killer. Amanda received eight costs from him. Her mom lynn spoke to him on one of these calls any claim to be from the n._y._p._d. Asking her if she had filed a missing persons report but for the most part these calls were aimed at terrorizing amanda and verizon eventually able to trace his calls to the manhattan area but he always hung up before could get further identification n._y._p._d. Believes this man was the long island serial killer. His voice led investigators to believe that he was a white male. In his twenties to thirties criminal profile is believed the he will continue to kill women until he was stopped pointing tusa usa colleges in profiler skype on based on the principles of behavioral profiling loan island serial killers most likely a white male. He's probably married or has girlfriend. He's well educated technologically adept and well-spoken. You could even be quite charming harming. He's financially secure has reliable job in a car truck and some people have considered that the killer could be employed in law enforcement because the phone calls were made from crowded places lasted less than three minutes. That's not just knowledge known to police officers who force mental now not nowadays. Everybody watches crime shows and knows a lot about it and they're also some sense. He was familiar with how the investigations institutions unfolded yeah. It did seem that way but that doesn't mean that he has to be law enforcement. It's a possibility but if he'd been killing for all these years ears. He probably had some knowledge about what he was doing because he'd been getting away with it for a long time. They believe he doesn't currently live on or near ocean parkway away on the south shore of long island and they think he's very familiar with the area though and may have once lived there. He's a very careful and meticulous person i and knows how to cover his tracks. He could have lived in manhattan because that's for the calls to amanda came from any may have been a long island summer visitor so so maybe he was a summer person to of the defining characteristics of this type of psychopathic serial killer are compulsive or or a cyclical violent behavior and the ability to blend back into their so called normal lives between the killings and this guy seemed to have a definite ammo. Oh and his victims had a lot in common mostly sex workers in their twenties in shannon gilbert's case her skeletal remains were found in a marsh so investigators believed that she drowned there or succumb to the elements just a short time after she met joe brewer but brewer was cleared as a suspect suspect in the case as well after a state autopsy in december of two thousand fourteen the cause of shannon's death was determined to be inconclusive so she was never included on the official list of the serial killer victims but then there was a new autopsy performed by former new york medical inspector michael baton. He was hired by mary. Mary actually raised some money to hire him and he said there was evidence that she was possibly strangled making her possibly the eleventh victim but his findings are based on two missing horns and shannon's highway bo so onto discuss that with you a little bit let's move the hieng is alone in the neck right yeah kind of like a horseshoe shape when we often hear about in people that strangles the higher bone has been fractured by the strangulation so it hasn't body and has two pairs of horns any torn is called a corno which is the latin word for horn the greater and lesser horns us to the body of a higher on between forty and sixty usage usage. Non fusion has been found even after the age of sixty because shannon was in her twenties. We have to wonder if the missing horns really in kid strangled. Pro-moscow remains coverage right. So what do you think about that. I mean remember we're. He was hired by shannon's mother. Who is very sure that shannon was murdered so there's a little bit of pressure there for him to go in that direction his findings as the body of the higher was broken now. He's basing all his findings on horns that are asking yes. I mean it is defense. I think you said possibly strangled. He didn't say that she was strangled. Attorneys to the salmon played it up as the topsy was mishandled an she really was strangled exactly so. I don't know if that's that solid of evidence to me. It's pretty weak but at the same time do i really think that a woman in her twenties out there drown in a swamp in the marsh. I believe i believe that more. If i was more positive that she was acting under the influence of some direction and find maybe a little more believable yeah yeah. It's tough for otherwise healthy woman to do that right. And why would you take your clothes off so you've got the excuse of maybe her jeans got alouette okay but why would she take your shirt off and when she put her shoes back on surface didn't get caught up so it really is still a mystery what happened to shannan wouldn't when i would not think so. I think we really don't know what happened to her. Now hurry break time. It's your responses okay..
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"Let's just easier kinda dumb shannon on the social system while i hate to use the word dump there were certainly some issues with marion her mother medications of bipolar disorder have a fair amount of side effects probably at least heff pupils to take the medication at one time or another stuff ticking because services yeah. I know it's tough when you have a kid with something like that but but i think when they're twelve you related to be pretty prudent about making sure they take their medicine or yes. He entered his birt's. Mom's parenting in schools yeah and i don't want to demonize the mother because she had a lot to deal but let's say the home life was far from ideal the description so mary said shannon was out of control but other people had a different story shannon told friends that are mom cared more about her boyfriend's than she did about her on children and according to sherry her sister shannon and mary's boyfriend didn't get along and shannon was sent away because of him. She said that mary was oblivious to the abuse that her boyfriend perpetrated on them and she only learned about it when the girls spoke up years later but within that point. Mary did support her daughters when they accused him so you have to give her credit for that he went to jail ended up dying few years later in france shannon was a smart friendly energetic very talented young lady that marry with shannon's biggest pro- wpro growing up she graduated from high school moved away from ellen ville shannon lift with her grandmother for awhile and actually begin taking nursing in classes she worked at a hotel a restaurant chain and a secretary at a local school and then she dropped out of college in quit the secretarial equitorial job because it's too boring and then she left to grandma's house because they had arguments about staying out too late so this is kind of similar spiral tomorrow and i think that her grandmother really tried but it's hard to raise a kid is a grandmother. You know you're getting older. You don't wanna deal with all that. This girl hadn't had any structure before that right reading articles about that have more and more grandparents arisen. Her kids scrammed jude's yeah sugar. It ain't easy now. I i wouldn't wanna do it. I mean of course i would do it if it was necessary but that would be cia. There's a huge generation gap there too when you're talking about a grandparents raising a child about that but i certainly give the grandparents that do a lot of credit so shannon then moved to jersey city which was just across the river from manhattan that was in two thousand seven. She really wanted interview stage performer in new york and she planned to audition for singing and acting jobs and she also began taking college classes in psychology and in writing she was determined to follow her dreams and make a better life for herself and when she didn't get as many editions as she hoped for that's when things kind kind of fell apart for her she fell into the lure of making a lot of money and the only way she could earn that was working as an escort or a sex worker so she kind of saw that is her only option which is really sad but by working as an escort and making about five hundred dollars a night she did have more freedom to pursue auditions and she had enough money to support herself and help out her sisters so there was a good side to it at least the way she saw but i don't think she realized how dangerous it really was. You know not only physically dangerous getting her but i think it's psychologically dangerous to put yourself in that position. I think it would be really hard so at first shannon worked for an escort service. She met her. Oh boy friend alex dias through her job as an escort. He was one of the drivers they were really happy together and they were both earning pretty good money so they moved in together and things seemed it's pretty good but the escort business was busted by the police and then alex and shannon were both out of a job and after they lost their high paying jobs the relationship went right downhill they started fighting in alex became physically abusive. According to the arrest record alex hit shannon bannon so hard that he shattered her job she had to have surgery and a titanium plate was put it to her job so she had a long recovery period. Yes you did but nevertheless she stayed with alex struggling to pay their bills and then shannon decided to advertise yourself love on craigslist this way she believed she could eliminate the middleman. She can make her own hours and keep all the money sheared the driver. Yes sometimes alex was the driver but when he wasn't she hired a man named michael pack he would take shannon to meet with a client in he'd weighed in the car for her this way the client knew that she was brought there by someone so she was less likely to get beaten or ripped off. Alex dias the boyfriend his shannon good night on may first two thousand ten. This was a normal friday night working for her. Her driver that at night was michael pack. She got a call to go to a client at oak beach and this was a place you'd never been to before. She left at midnight to meet the client joe uh-huh brewer and after she ran off that night her family and friends never saw her again alex than the entire next day waiting for her to come home home. She never returned by sunday. He was worried enough to try calling her but her phone was shot so he didn't know what to do next. You knew drivers named michael pack but he didn't have a phone number for him. So finally he went through shannon's drawers and found a piece of paper with some phone numbers he i it's called michael who seems surprised to hear from him and alex was angry that the driver had abandoned her on long island. I think he was right about that. That was not a cool cool thing to do but michael told alex what had happened but nothing michael was saying about her behavior. That night sounded like shannon to alex. It thought it was all a little shady but michael was helpfully tried to help alex signed her so i think he did. At least he'll a little guilty about leaving her once he found out she he had made it home. Which of course any normal person would think yeah yeah yeah alison michael peck sounds six nearby hospitals online and four police stations the call them all you think shannon's name and a description over but no one has seen her so alex michelson connect him with the person who hired shannon spoke of job. You're over. The phone. Rural laughed at a basically saying huffman. It's your job. You should know she's at it got defensive when he was asked questions and historian sam believable alex michael since you've within a brewers house or three hours so why would a center off after that all the time gone by well. That's a curious part about it because that's a long time to be in his house and can you think of something was going to go wrong would have gone wrong sooner now. She didn't show any signs of being beaten according to michael but she was terrified she was hiding behind couch <unk> all your could you take something drugs or sudden. I suppose we don't know because she was never found so we i have no idea i mean going on what exactly so he could have given her some kind of drug she could have been on drugs dugs but according to alex now she used drugs. It's not like she never used drugs so she didn't normally act that strange when she took them could she. She had been having a bad trip well maybe but she was making a lot of sense really she wasn't saying random things so it's very curious what qader off to go running out that night he really is we know from what we know. She was okay on the trip out right. Yes exactly park. It didn't say anything was amiss now. He's sitting in the car waiting for me any problems into three hours into things and yeah exactly so together. Alex joe brewer went and filed a report the suffolk county police officers didn't seem to take them. I'm seriously though she was an escort a prostitute so they were giving her the kind of attention that they would give other people. There's always that biased biased that we've been through this before. Yes marginalize people when alex said he was from jersey city. They told him well anyway. You need to go file the report there there so the next day he did drive back out to oak beach with a photo of shannon and he made it to the gate where truck pulled up and stopped and a middle aged man dan hannah chunky but friendly got outta the truck alex notice she had a limb anna prosthetic leg anti introduced himself as dr peter hackett. The doctor listened to alex and wrote down. Some of what alex was saying in a little notebook he told alex he knew nothing about what had happened to shannan but he said we're going to help you out with this case i used to work with the police so we're going to call them and we're going to have this whole place searched and he was true to his word it because later that day helicopters were searching above oh beach but they found nothing on that search so that evening alex filed a missing persons percents report for shannon in jersey city. He also let her family know it was going on and he told the police that shannon was bipolar and she had been known to use cocaine marijuana in also some prescription drugs and harry yogurt. Mom had trouble remember all the details. She did say the doctor had called her in the days following shannon's disappearance. This was before she understood. The shannon was really missing and the content the phone call as she called. It was very strange. He said his name is dr. Peter hackett lived in oak beach long island and then he ran home for wayward girls and according to mary. He told her that he treated shannon. She left his house. That's odd it's very area and she said that she remembered him saying to her that he had seen shannon that night and that she was incoherent and he took her into his home to rehab her and then the next day he said a driver came and picked her up and then he asked mary if she had seen her since in eventually of course mary would be questioned about this. Call it hack it denied calling mary at first but she had insisted sherry was there for the call right next to her mom and she confirmed served marietta hurt and then hackett would later admit to the call but he never admitted to seeing or to treating shannon in any way fulmer provided exactly and there were neighbors. That said that he would treat them. He gave someone a steroid injection then he given people prescriptions so he did treat neighbors yay while he was a former your duck so he could do that. I don't know running a a rehab center while he claims to never said that and you know we don't have a recording of the cost so it could have been a misunderstanding on mary's mary's part but there are some things about hackett that are suspicious but over time there were others including his neighbors at a beach who believed that he did did know more about what had happened to shannon and then he would admit helped along by pressure from shannon's family. The search led authorities to find ten sets of human remains off ocean partway ten. That's just hard to imagine moving from.
"c. long island" Discussed on True Crime Brewery
"True crime brewery contains disturbing content related to real life crimes. Medical information is opinion based on facts of a crime and should not be interpreted <music> as medical advice or treatment listener. Discretion is advised. Welcome to your crime jury. I'm gel. Today's episode is called the long island serial killer but we're not really talking about that killer. We're talking more about his victims than the people who were affected by this killer who is actually still on the loose. It hasn't been found long. Island's south shore has a really dark and tragic secret in this the infamous long island serial killer also or known as the gilgo beach killer or the craigslist river. The still unidentified killer is responsible for the murder of over ten women in one man. All his remains were dumped along the ocean parkway over a span of twenty years in december of two thousand ten. The suffolk county police as department was conducting a search for shannan gilbert. A twenty four year old sex worker shannon lived in jersey city in she had been missing since fleeing the home of a client that may while conducting that search in the dunes of ocean parkway police officer malaya in his german shepherd blue found on the skeletal remains of a woman stuffed into a burlap sack but these remains were not shannon gilbert's the search expanded then in two days days later. They uncovered three more bodies all female that had been dumped in the thick vegetation along the road. The four bodies were identified within weeks. All four of these women were revealed to have been escorts or sex workers who had advertised their services on craigslist or back page. Six sets of remains were found in march and april of two thousand eleven. This gruesome series of deaths was really unheard of on long island as the police widened the scope of their search. They continued to find more remains the f._b._i. Eventually became involved in speculated that this alleged killer was was someone familiar with law enforcement techniques but finding the killer has proven to be impossible. Psychologists have put together. A profile in several suspects spects have been looked at the case does remain unsolved so join us today at the quiet end for discussion of these murders. We're going to take a heartbreaking look at the victims in what turned their lives in a direction where they became vulnerable to this serial killer but i is always. Let's start out with a beer okay. We have a beer. The air is from growing in queens. New york also done in collaboration with j <unk>. Miami title is smooth. Ooh beats miami. This is an interesting beer. It's my first coconut i t._a. Coconut i i had i haven't don't so it's a hazy goal color thick whitehead tunsil as re pretty career and you get this real rome of coconut and fruit and the taste is coconut forward apple sue pretty sweet not very hoppy beer easy to drink. I'm just i'm not sure about a coconut i._p._a. Early need to try somewhere well. We liked coconut water so it's probably good or wasn't stood in nursing lab. She looking gonna throw up as just a different i._p. That i never had right all right well. Let's open it up and try it. Shared arouse rally folks okay okay sure so down to the quiet and we go plunged down in open the beer and talk to our folks okay hi. This is really really a sad case that it brings back a lot of feelings about how women can be treated and about poverty in the country. It's just just a lot of issues that come up in my mind when we're talking about this case but for now we're going to focus on these individual lives in what happened to start out. Let's talk talk about the disappearance that shannon gilbert so in the early morning of may first two thousand ten shannon was last seen running off a road at okay each long island. This is a private gated community and there's no police patrols out there so shannon was an escort who advertised just on craigslist that night. She met a friendly suny man job. You're shannon lifter home. Just after midnight driver ever took it to the clients home at two a._m. And waited outside in the car after being inside for three hours. She made a twenty three minute. Call nine one one and on the call. She said trying to kill me. That was four st win when that call came in to male voices are heard in the background background joseph breuer client michael pack was driver. Police couldn't respond to shannon's call because she couldn't tell him what she was. According to police shannon sounded panicked and irrational. We don't have any way of knowing if she is having a mental. Oh crisis afraid or she might have been on drugs. Yeah now. The client forty six year old joseph breuer called shannon's driver driver and asked him to get shannon out of his house but shannon was in hysterics. She ran off refusing to get into the car with driver it about five a._m. Shannon was outside screaming on the doorstep of gusts colletti a retired insurance fraud investigator gusts letter in seeing that she needed help and he called nine one one shannon was still holding her cell phone with the nine one one operator on that line and then operator overheard shannon's interactions with gus gus told shannon that the police were on the way. He suggested that she should stay in waited his house but she wouldn't. She took off so gusts went outside and he signed asian man in a black. S._u._v. stopped in front of his house. This was shannon's driver. Michael pat gus wondered if that that was who shannon was running away from which would make sense. He saw shannon hiding beneath the boat in his yard a when she ran off from the boat michael pack followed her in the s._u._v. and he said something to gusts like you shouldn't have called the police she's going to get into trouble in gus was having none of that. He said well. I did call all the beliefs so five twenty a m shannon ran to the nearby house of a resident named barbara brennan shannon banged on the door in barbara called nine one on one when police arrived at five forty a m shannon was gone so they just decided they would believe that she'd left with her driver and not look into a to it at all michael park would say later that he follows shannon and look for about an hour never found her so this. This genie is ridiculous. Why would you leave after an hour the whole point of him being there has to keep her safe. He's like her bodyguard really as well as her driver so so to me. The fact that he left after an hour is just really bad. It makes him look bad. It wasn't the appropriate thing to do. If you really let her down in my opinion yeah you could say. I looked for for a while but she is off far away from home. I mean it's reminding reminding me of richardson now because she's off their wish doesn't know anybody she's in some kind of mental state no matter what's causing it and then he just just leaves and goes home. That's very rude. Mary considerate very selfish. The nine one one operator in the local police who gusts colletti cow were unaware of shannon's nine one one call because her car had been transferred to the new york state police when she couldn't tell the operator where she was she. She said she thought she was at jones. Beach which is still quite a ways away so it would actually take as long as a month before police made the connection between tween shannon's nine one one call and the missing persons report filed by her family for her. She was reported missing two days after her disappearance in her worried boyfriend called her sisters her sisters went out to the area knocked on doors but no one said that the senior so why was shannon out author that night working as an escort or prostitute. That's the big question. I think there were many things that led her to this dangerous life according to her the sisters shannon was trying to make money and make a better life for herself and that's hard to do on a normal everyday minimum wage. Job shannon was in the eighth grade in performed inner schools production of annie. She loves to perform and she had dreams of modeling seeing and acting professionally finally shannon's mother had left shannon's father when shannon was just five years old she had two younger sisters to for your old sherry ed three-year-old sarah and they would never see their father again their mother. Mary told the girls that he was a heroin addict. In that was the end of that who knows what her we only have one side of the story but their lives became more difficult when mary started seeing a guy named david he was the father of mary fourth fourth daughter in that was stevie shannon sisters sherry who was about five years old at that time remembered a lot of fighting after steve's birth she would recall how she enchanted hid beneath the kitchen table as plates of food were thrown in broken against the wall on the floor. Now mary's mother call the police when she learned about the fights. David whitney jail in all four of mary's daughters were placed in foster care so mary was really angry at her mother for call the authorities and she didn't get custody back of her girls for nearly two years i would say good for mary's ma absolutely an nothing was going on mary's point of view right. She wasn't calling the police asking for help now near. He had her issues so mom. Mom did the right thing anyway. After the family was reunited. Mary moved into ellen new york pretty small town people's opinions of mary ellen bill. Were not very good. She was looked at as a tough woman who neglected children. Shannon often run off of friends revisit time and her mother never looked for yet. It take long living allen ville before shannon. Then only about seven in years old was returned to the foster care system for six years. She lived near mary but in a series of foster homes and shannon then went to the same school as her sisters hung out with a lot of the same kids but she didn't live with her sisters or her mother. Mary never explained to anyone outside in the family. Why shannon didn't live at home then when she was twelve she was diagnosed bipolar but she never took her medicine because she didn't like the side effects i. Mary said that foster care was the best option for shannon because she couldn't control her. I'm getting the impression. Mary has limited. It means limited coping skills..