17 Burst results for "Butler Simmons"

"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

03:33 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"Requested when you call in, and we've had, you know, pretty pretty good board today on the McNabb stuff circle back to a second for to the whole, Jimmy Butler, seventy Sixers LeBron James, you know, it, it's going to be interesting to see what happens, and I would like to handicap before you to tell you that I think this guy's coming back. I think this guy's not coming back. Maybe they add somebody else if my best guess, right now would be to say both guys come back that the Sixers decide that, you know what, we'd rather have both of them than not the not have both of them. You know what I mean? Like it just they can offer more money and. Unless something crazy happens one of the coming back. But I believe to both of them come back. Yeah. I don't believe they both come back. I just don't know if it's going to be because the Sixers, don't want all for both MAGS deals or Jimmy Butler wants to go somewhere else or to bias wants to go somewhere else. I think the one thing we don't look at is. How forties guys play together and whether or not you're getting the best. Are they reaching their maximum potential by being together? Right. And then is it a good fit? And I'm not so sure that they didn't just win on talent. More than it being a great fit those guys being a great fit. I mean, when you put Butler Simmons, and bead and Harris with JJ, ready together, the baht that's a lot of talent that's gonna win an X amount of games just on sheer talent. But when you're talking about making this decision and committing to it for the next five years. I don't know if it can work out long term. I don't know of each guy can really become the individual player. They wanna become everybody has to sacrifice and I don't know if they're all ready to sacrifice their games yet. I don't think being wants to sacrifices game. I don't think being likes the idea of Jimmy Butler having no offense row through him and do ice. Oh, Jimmy, and being stand in a cost he doesn't like this ban wants to be an all star every year, he wants to be an all NBA player. So he's eligible for supermax contract. Eventually like these things that players have we're asking these guys. To sacrifice for championship right now. And sacrifice individual goals. I don't know if they're ready to do that. I don't know if they're ready to do that. And when you look at two guys that may possibly leave in harassed and Butler. I mean we had we know what Jimmy Butler wants to do you really don't I and this is not a shot at Jimmy ballers. It's just a film that Ed. And I'm staying true to it. So it doesn't seem like I've been flipping and flopping on Jimmy Butler. But I think Jimmy Butler put on a great act for about a month and a half. If that loan how long did the playoff run last about that? Wasn't a mother had the two the two rounds. I mean probably not that long but definitely a. And, and you know why believe he did that because he's on prime-time stage. Now, everybody used to sing. He wants to be offered a max deal somewhere else. I don't know if he played like he wanted to max deal prior to the playoffs starting, then we'll tells me miss Jimmy, I think the buyers Harris's game suffered because when he was in LA, you know, this was this was your leading score office went through him. He's a catch and shoot guy you bring him here. Nice..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Lowe Post

The Lowe Post

01:50 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Lowe Post

"Presumed next great rival to the Sixers have gone completely haywire. No, one knows who if you're the six Durant might leave. If you're the Sixers who are you looking around even with all the question marks about fit and Simmons jump shot in what hands should it be shooting with and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who are you? Absolutely sure is better than you in the next five years and isn't Toronto last year. A really good example of that the fact that they just can't get past LeBron and then he's gone. And at that point that the the raptors had already kind of started tearing down a little bit. They obviously got rid of doing Casey, which maybe they would have done that anyway. But if you knew LeBron was leaving. Maybe you don't just the risk right now of tearing stuff down. I think the same is true of the rockets a little bit to the risk of kind of. And I don't think they're talking about, you know, moving anybody. They're not going to get rid of the Antoni. But the idea of changing a whole bunch of stuff when you have a bounce that is responsible for you're not going to the next round or one team that is there that is currently. Elected. You can't beat. But may not be constructed that way and a couple of months, and so there's a whole lot of stuff like that right now that it would be really dangerous. I think to kind of just without thinking about it too much or just making a really brash decision. If anything the the the. The question to me is is almost more of a resources distribution one of. Okay. We've now seen what Tobias Harris is going to be on this team. Right. He's going to be a third and fourth option who's a very good shooter who can burrow and wiggle his way to random buckets late in the clock. Great player. Good player to have on your team. How much of that? Can we get for twenty five percent of what he's made to imagine? That too is the question because Butler Simmons Embiid an shooter besides Rettig who's also free agent and for portions of that game. Yesterday was the scariest offensive player on the floor for Philadelphia..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

02:08 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"What do I do with them was I too high to low I watched last night and yet last played well, but God night tonight. I don't know what I get with him. What is Ben Simmons going forward? I think it's a whole. We just want everything so fast. You know, what is the second year third year second year playing third second year because you only learn while you're playing to me he just has to impose his will. I think he's let. Being the fact that he can't shoot. And what everyone else is saying about a given his head at the end of that he's going to be bigger stronger than anybody else guarding him. So if they set off you got gotta tack make plays for yourself get to the Camby afraid to get into the on. He's not a very good free throw shooting. You got embrace getting to the foul line. And then you've got to score it. You know? I mean, I think last night was a perfect he imposed his will. And I put it on Twitter early in the day. The he need to impose his will. And that's what he did last night with a triple double. You know, LeBron took little LeBron Lewa to get a jump shot. Although his jump shot was, you know, further head in been SIMS jump Jason Kidd was pretty ugly. But these guys still attacked and made play that Thailand Draymond not filling his shot, and they sag off attacking going into dribble. Handoff stowing lobs. He still downhill attacking putting pressure on the defense. I think been Simmons less people off the hook when he's just very passive with the ball or doesn't want to possibly go to the go to the basket and get fouled. So he has to embrace who he is great player still has worked to his jump shot. But he could. Still impose his will throughout this, you know, throughout this series in Philly as a whole scares me from the standpoint of if they realized how talented they are got out to Golden State name better starting five. You can't you can't give me Rettig 'em bead Butler Simmons who am I missing. Oh, yeah. Tobias Harris people thought was going to get the max for the clippers. He's fourth best player town. But the answer the beginning of your question. What separates good from great is consistency in Ben's not consistent yet. So once he becomes a consistent. I just think understands the game more he's still young. It's still only a second year. But now, you know now like you said name abetter starting five they click. They can easily make the finals. Yeah. I love watching Philly play their fun. They are fun really fun to watch play. His name is Matt.

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

02:02 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Am I was I too high announced to low I watched last night and yet last night he played well, but God night tonight. I don't know what I get with him. What is Ben Simmons going forward? I think it's think as a whole we just want everything so fast. You know, what is the second year third year second year playing third. You got hurt. I second year because you only learn why you're playing to me he just has to impose his will. I think he's letting the fact that he. Can't shoot. And what everyone else is saying about a given his head at the end of the day. He's going to be bigger stronger than anybody else guarding him. So if they sag off you gotta attack make place for yourself get to the Camby afraid to get out and get to the foul on. He's not a very good free throw shooting. You got embrace getting to the foul line. And then you've got to score it. You know what I mean? I think last night was a perfect he imposed his will. And I put it on Twitter earlier in the day that he need to impose his will. And that's what he did last night with a triple double. You know, LeBron took little LeBron Lewa to get a jump shot. Although his jump shot was, you know, further ahead in Ben Simmons, jump Jason Kidd was pretty ugly. But these guys still attacked and made play you sat Thailand Draymond does not fill in his shot, and they sag off heath attacking going into dribble. Handoff Doan lobs. He still downhill attacking putting pressure on the defense. I think Ben Simmons less people off the hook when he's just very passive with the ball or doesn't want to possibly go to the go to the basket and get fouled. So he has to embrace who he is great player still has work to do with his jump shot. But he could still. Impose his will throughout this, you know, throughout the series in Philly as a whole scares me from the standpoint of if they realized how talented they are got out to Golden State name a better starting five. You can't you can't give me Rettig 'em bead Butler Simmons who am I missing. Oh, Tobias hair Tobias Harris people thought was going to get the max for the clippers. He he's her fourth best player town. But the answer the beginning of your question. What separates you know? Good from great is consistency in Ben's not consistent yet. So once he becomes a consistent. I just think understands the game more he's still young. It's still only a second year. But now, you know now like you said name a better starting five if they click they can easily make the finals. Yeah..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

01:30 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Case you're not paying attention to the young man in Atlanta name's trae young his last five games, thirty points. Ten is says twenty three points, eight assists. Thirty six points, eight assists. Thirty six points, ten assists, eight rebounds in last night, a career high forty nine point sixteen assisted eight rebounds numbers that have been put up since Michael Jordan. Lebron James trae young our performance of the week. And he and the hawks will be in Atlanta tomorrow afternoon at three thirty PM eastern time, we go back to fully for a great finish between the warriors in Sixers. What's when PJ Carlesimo? Here's Adamy note. You'll be fulfilling. No Klay Thompson for Golden State for the offense. Big twenty lead changes and ties one nine one zero eight six. Three fifty to go. Forty two percent from the field for grown state and surprisingly Steph Curry's four for thirteen to for seven from free. Not on fire. Ran out to curry deep light site three. That's. And the warriors take the two point lead who said Steph curry, and no idea some some jerk back. There was saying. Thank you. Butler Simmons Scott, Harris and Radic the five for Philly. Whatever leaves it for Harris right-wing looking for Simmons, instead drives baseline right gets underneath off to a putting Scott in baseline left in the paint right handed runner. No good. But a foul called Mike Scott's going to the free throw line after the following Draymond green..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

02:15 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"But jimmy. I mean, you know, what it is Embiid can't take that many threes. You know that? What's her name? Harris. Can't go fourteen. That's not why he's here right Butler. I got no complaints about. I thought Butler game game. The only guy who really played a good game was Butler Simmons to me talk for seven from the line, not acceptable. I was a little bug that Butler for missing the south shots. But I looked at the box scores. He actually had a pretty good game. Is this Simmons man, this is going to bite them in the playoffs? You mean every every close game he's going to line going to live. Team. I would absolutely put him because defensively he's getting better and better. That's a huge thing. When your God can't shoot free throws. See you. I'm really a big deal. Right. Jimmy. Let's get Jonna. We'll give me a pitcher catcher. Okay. I'm gonna pose one question to your first. That's all right. If these three guys are all coming out at the same time in Detroit left. How would you rate them? Well, Moses and bead will it would be wealth in and they would lose interest. No, no. That's how I would go wilt Embiid. And Moses now see I would put Moses the second. All right as long as I like, I said, I choice. All right. Well, I've got to me. Hey dad, but he's still got to me. All right. Gimme. Who's your pitcher, Robin? Roberts Robin Roberts at number five. You guys you bury? He's on the wheel right now. And. It lands on number lucky. Number seven. Oh, man. You gotta J T rail motel Phillies player shirt, courtesy rejects the clubhouse star. He was on earlier out love it. I love wearing what number. Bizet? Yes. Number ten. It's Darren dolls number visit to pick up the new player jerseys and tee shirts, including rail, motel mccutchen and cigar..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:13 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Let's not even argue about that. And then you can argue about stuff I'd say Houston second if Chris Paul's healthy and James harden and Clint Capelle, and Eric Gordon, I take Houston's the second best roster. Not as quite as good as last year. But number two, Oklahoma City. I've got Westbrook. I got the MVP Paul George. I got Stephen Adams. And I would give them a narrow narrow edge over Philadelphia because Jimmy Butler Simmons and Embiid, I'm not sure I don't know about the chemistry. I like the players. I put Philadelphia four Tobias Harris. That's a really good roster. I just don't think yet they're chemistry's quite as good as a Houston. I'd put Boston five Toronto with Markelle Saal. I may be under selling them at six and Milwaukee Middleton Yoenis I put him at seven cadets. The that's seven rosters. I don't have the Lakers. Eight. I think you can start arguing on the Lakers behalf from eight to about sixteen and I'm not so sure they're not closer to sixteen the nine or eight and LeBron twists his ankle there. There are sixteenth. So congrats on fire in Luke Walton? That's not the issue. Lebron does create this is not a criticism. It is a reality. If I if I yelled at my son for getting a D N math that is not a criticism that is a reality. If he gets it. Lebron does create an urgency in a stress and at times an unrealistic expectation on a franchise that you have to win now and people have to leave and draft picks have to go to win. Now. That's the stress that LeBron creates I'm not it's not a criticism. It's a reality. I've seen it multiple times. But I will just say this did Luke Walton hurt lebrons growing because they were the four seed before that did Luke Walton hurt Lonzo ball who got hurt again. Oh, he didn't. He didn't do those two. Did did he leak all the stories that? In the locker room. No, Luke, Walton didn't do that either. Okay. So never forget pre LeBron's injury. Lakers were the fourth seed in the west the chemistry was getting better there. Only two and a half games out of the playoffs. Now. But go ahead. Take a wrecking ball to blow up the coaching staff. Go for it. That's not the answer. Lebron creates an expectation that puts stress on a franchise now, he is probably the first second third best basketball player I've seen, but that's a reality with LeBron. And so let's blow out Luke Walton is not the problem. Let's trade a bunch of players and get AD. I'm not sure that's going to be great. I think it'd be good. I don't think it would be great. I've seen LeBron with Biggs before. So it looks like eight days off loss to Atlanta almost gave up seventy in the first half to a bad NBA team that I'm not even sure is trying to win. I think they're in the sign Williamson interest sweepstakes as well. But that's the world we live in. I never bought into that ridiculous notion that the win over the Celtics meant anything. I I told you I last Friday off I opened up the internet, and there are all these stories about that can play with anybody say the unbelievable proportions. We just wanted to feel good about the Lakers. Couple seconds long. First half of the. Range so much this winter people need sunshine. We just wanted to smile little bit..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Starters

The Starters

03:48 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Starters

"Thursday night. The seventy Sixers beat the Pacers one twenty two ninety six in Indy. Embi led the way despite having a sore back. He was what did they have a as right before the game was just questionable questionable buddy, twenty two points, thirteen boards. He desist three blocks all with that stiff back, and he was visit visibly like, you know, grabbing at it every time he was over on the bench. They were doing work on it. But great sideline Butler Simmons also contributed Bartley, though is going on TNT with the idea called the Sixers, quote, the stupidest organization in the history of sports because he is saying, you know, you've got a franchise player and Embiid and he's got a bad back. He's injury prone already has been you know, it looks like you barely walk and you gotta play him in a regular season game. Like, what are you doing? And when fair we don't know the actual injury could have gotten worse. I guess not was he playing it up a little bit for the cameras. He sore. Sure. Of course, he was sore. But you know, he's fighting you said he's warrior after the game. By surprisingly, I understand where. Outback sounds bad. But it may have not been Barclay like Kenny and shack sort of push back like, yeah. He says he's healthy wants to go. Let's go, but Barclays like sometimes you got these you got to. Make sure these guys wanna play but sometimes in their best interest. You should tell them maybe they should it for the long term. And then if a guy rests for health maintenance, they say, why is he rested for help me load management is. Yeah. You gotta manage those load. So you don't get a drippy or spicy. The Sixers seem to be making their run. They seem to be looking like that team. We all believe last year would roll through the Celtics in round two. They they've got the vibe, and they have like an insane schedule coming up here. This was the start of it. I believe this game like their next eleven maybe are against winning teams. And like they're gonna see like. Yeah. Just how good they are. But that was like, you know, I'm sure there's another handful of games this year. But like the three of the big guys on the Sixers like all playing well at the same time. I thought you were getting that last night against the Pacers plays where all three of them were involved. You like M B catches the ball. He fakes dribble handoff to Butler coming around. But then he's not open. So you dish it down into Simmons. And then Butler's, cutting and somebody's open. You can see the flashes of how it's gonna work. There was a lot of times when it was just two of them out there and those two are working in a two man game. And it was working Simmons was posting up. Simmons was the roll, man. They were trying a lot of stuff, and it was all work in last night. Against the team the Pacers who are good at defense. But now, that's I guess the second time in the last week or so where they've been crushed by a better team in Eastern Conference. The Celtics came in and hammer them that was in Boston. The that was in Boston excuse me. And then this one in the second half of back to back. Okay. This one was not issue. This one was weird in that. They couldn't hit a shot offense defensively. Okay. The Sixers are gonna score. But there's just some weird. Yeah. Planks and you say a better team in the Sixers. They're technically tied with the with the Pacers right now. So the Pacers have quietly impressed. But yeah, a couple of clunker this one, especially was was strange. They like Westbrook missing labs. They missed a lot of mid range shots just left. And right. It was strange the Pacers of done well against crappy teams taking care of business. But are about five hundred now against your sort of more elite team, and that's all I feel punching above the white a little bit. I think that they've shown that they are better than those second tier team. Yeah. But they're not really a top tier team myself. I don't so there's somewhere in the middle. You've got your your your raptors, your Celtics, your Sixers, and then and then you got the pace of sort of just floating in the middle there..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Hoop Collective

The Hoop Collective

04:33 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Hoop Collective

"They played them just before that true true. But there hasn't been a lot of game. It's a trap, right? Put me. There hasn't been a lot of shine in the wizards world this year. So I understand. But when you play two games in two nights. I don't hold the Sixers responsible. I just that to me is a trap game. That's that's fair. But I would just say that the that the the wizards have to Goodwin's in the last week in the wake of John wall being done for the year where you thought almost that they might go into Selma. Also res ahead one of his best games of since coming over last night. So but McMahon when you look at the Sixers I said the other day, and I'm not making this like as a reporting thing, and I'm not really trying to be controversial. I'm just saying one year from now it'd be surprised if Butler Simmons and bead rawal still playing together just for there's a whole bunch of reasons when you look at the Sixers this is a team that. Pound for pound has as much talent. I mean, we have Zach Lowe the other day he was making the point that he thought JJ Radic should be a contender for the all star team. He's feels like he's played that well this year, and you look at the other guys they have which are all star level players. What do you see when the Sixers team? Mcmahon laugh doesn't see much. Call really got called for early boarding. Oh. You know, what's funny about this? Brian, though, we're talking about the Sixers, and we still won't even mention Marquel. Foltz isn't that just incredible? It's just incredible. What the hell I know. Well, he was sinking. I don't know. I don't know who reported. I wish I could give them credit, but they reported that there was supposed to be a follow up on his issue. The thoracic outlet syndrome update this week and it's Thursday morning. And we haven't heard the update now, maybe they'll be an update by the time this post, but I doubt it will be day because they're off today. So I don't know. But yes, it's it's strange. What do you think goes, Brian? Do you think goes? So I mentioned earlier this week that I thought the clippers Jimmy has has interest in the clipper has interest in the seventy Sixers don't get me wrong. I think he's gonna allow other people to talk about the his free agency a little bit because he's would like to make sure that he gets a five year offer from the Sixers, and that's going to be a compelling offer. If indeed offer that I would assume when they traded for him, they had to have an internal understanding that they were going to be willing to offer him five years. Which is problematic just because of his injury history. But I I know that there's that Jimmy in the past has had interest in the clippers and the clippers are going to have a MAC slot. And he's not going to be their number one priority. But if they don't hit on everything that, you know, he could be there the other team that I think. May have some interest for him, and what have interest in him is the Brooklyn nets? If you know if you think about him, and and charissa Vert going forward as the to sort of wings on that team. I don't know if they would retain the ngelo Russell, but Russell's having a great year, and that would be interesting. Perimeter. If that's the direction they went knowing the Brooklyn. You know is going to has a bunch of money to spend has some flexibility there about to be bought by a very very basketball crazed. Chinese businessmen who reigned Jek some life. Procure off came on hot and heavy, and it's sort of tough, and you know, so earn baby. So Butler is is a legitimate free agent. You know? There's a lot of intrigue in that particular free agency, especially because I keep saying there's a whole bunch of teams out there in big markets, the Knicks and the nets the Lakers and the clippers. Who are fishing, and there's not enough fish for all those hooks. And this is a this is a concern for a team like the bucks and Chris Middleton team like the clippers until by his Harris. Some of the there's when when the music stops. There's going to be some some teams without chairs..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Hoop Collective

The Hoop Collective

04:42 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Hoop Collective

"Where do you guys think Jimmy goes, that's what I'm curious about? I think he wants to go the clippers. I think I doesn't stay Phil. If he doesn't stay in fiddled. Let's play this out. Doc Rivers loves tubing. He's loved Jimmy because Marquette connection love the game for years. They have a young impressionable. If you're the clippers knowing what you all know, do you think Jimmy be it's within the framework of what they're trying to build it. I think the issue the clippers is they're going after Kawai. Okay. And Kate if right if they hit on one of those two, I don't think they're getting both. But let's say they hit on one of those two. Then the question becomes do. We do. We let Tobias Harris go or do we try to go get Jimmy who we think we can get. I don't know if I were them if I'd let's bias heiress go, I really liked obese ARIS fits in. Really? Well, and I think you if they're able to get Kawai, I think you look at the market for Danilo Gallinari. And then maybe you could do a sign and trade. I don't know made it meet other scenarios where you could keep all three where you do intrigued with going. I think you also look at to Brian his if he were I think there's a couple of teams Miami's one that's a team that obviously wanted to trade for him before. And Dallas would be the other in which case the big question is do you let him anywhere near Luca Donncha? Right. Is that that a squirrel thing? If if he has if there's a third team that moves on him while he forces weta Minnesota. But I don't know. I just that story like I know that you had to dance around. Why should I knew what you were doing? I've been in the situation you have a read on what you think is going on. But you have to dance around being definitive because that could change in fact, even story came out the Sixers played a couple of good games. And bead was was a was a beast at the end of that trip. Just one player of the week three or no. But I will say this. I think in one year from today. Well, maybe not today one year from February by the two thousand twenty trade deadline. I think there's a good chance that Butler Simmons. It Embiid will not all plan for the seventy Sixers whether whether Butler leaves and free agency or even if he's resigned, or if he's traded now, or you know, I I don't know if that triumphant stays together. Let's I think you have expanded it's not necessarily triumvirate. I think one of the things that we were writing about in the story, which is I think just as important if not more important in some ways is it's on Brett Brown to make this work. Right. I mean, he's he's already in the process of figuring out the Simmons dynamic, and how do you make that work because stylistically and personality wise, they're not like a perfect fit. That's people talk about shack and penny. I mean, I remember. Any being a little better shooter than Benjamin's you. You know? I can't be a worse shooter. There can't be. You know? So like, it's you know, that's that's a tough one, right? Like personally, and professionally personality wise and bead is very classically in the shack mode of like, he's. Trolls people he's fine. He's outgoing and then. Simmons really doesn't have much of a personality at least publicly except for. What do we know about him dates KENDALL? You wanna have fun. You wanna really going to bait the merits of whether in the off season that the Sixers should offer. Ben Simmons free. Anthony davis. Oh, I've played that game. If you times, I think that every keep in mind that Ben Simmons say under contract under control. Also. I mean, I know that he's not exactly like Louisiana's favorite, son. But he did go. Dallas you go there. You know? There is a connection. I forgot he went to school there. Maybe he did do. And beat and Anthony Davis playing together. I know mean Anthony Davis does not want to play center. He'd rather play power forward. And. I know that it's not the most ideal fit history. But you know, start thinking about what they could do defensively and stuff. Yeah. I mean, what they like the Sixers clearly need some shooting. Right. So they make the big trade. They they surrender a lot of their depth..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

03:24 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The NBA Show

"And I think that is the fundamental tension is at. Me looks like we can be better. If those two guys accepts small rolls around me, and they're like why except small roles were freaking awesome. Let's just let us grow into becoming great players. Yeah. The idea though of Jimmy. I mean, I guess it some way part of me suspected the Jimmy White one of like be the alpha when he got here because that's it's not really in his DNA not to be the alpha. But I think even he must know we can have the argument about him versus Simmons. But I think even he must know that it's embiid's team like it's hard for me to fathom that like even in Jimmy Butler 's like, wildly overestimated sense of self worth that he doesn't look at like the situation in Philadelphia and the city of Philadelphia and think like that it can be any team anybody else's team. But em beats like, he must know. It's Embiid team. I'm I think that's probably true. But Jimmy is looking at like me and Embiid should run more pick and rolls. And the number thought to me is when you it's very small sample size. But when it's just Embiid, Jimmy and no Simmons. Yeah. They're like plus twenty and sixty minutes, and it's like if Jimmy and beat running pick and rolls what has been Simmons doing. Yes. So you put this in your in your piece jumped out now to me too. So you have a little graphic in here that says Butler Simmons and Embiid together. The Sixers are plus four point two rating, Butler and Simmons would know Embiid. They're slightly better than that at plus five and change bowler and Embiid together with no Simmons plus twenty almost plus twenty one that is a significant thing. I mean when you say jumps out. Yeah. Like left off the page to me, so one my first thing is does this go is Jimmy, right? That maybe like let's take away like the style of play for a second. And just talk about the rotations and sort of staggering their minutes. Does Butler have a point the maybe this comes back to Brett Brown in terms of like should he be rotating these guys in a different way, and maybe playing Simmons without Butler and Embiid more? Well, the thing is though when you look at the numbers when it's just Simmons by himself. It's not terribly successful. And that goes back to the lack of talent on the rest of the roster. They're super what makes it what makes it tougher Phileas like bread Brown's like look Jimmy, we're doing well. And we're going to do better as are supporting cast gets better and Jimmy's like, yeah, we're not doing well enough. But maybe just give me the ball more. I mean, that's the obvious answer. I think like this this whole like how much the Sixers are running the pick and roll. But an and how much or rather not running the pick and roll. But has been a thing in Philly for a while like they just don't for a number of reasons. And once you got a Jimmy Butler, it was antiquated that like, hey, oh now you've got a guy who this is a natural fit for the pick and roll. Like, of course, you're going to run more of an and clearly they're not running nearly enough of it for Jimmy Butler is liking. I just wonder like you mentioned in the piece that it's difficult to do with this grouping because they don't have a lot of floor spacing. They don't have a lot of shooting. And like once they traded Robert Covington and Dario Sarge for Jimmy Butler, two things happen. And I made this point a thousand times I'll make it a thousand and one one they got better to they got thinner like, they just don't have a lot of useful bodies right now. Yes. Tough like the pick and roll at a very fundamental level. You got the ball handler. The screener and then three shooters and..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

11:58 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"So he has played good second half as well. So again, I would expect him if he's not. Harassed hit a lot whatever the case may be. I don't have much doubt that he's going to go in there and play. Well, it's a matter of can eagles run enough can the eagles defense. Still shorthanded due to some injuries. Even though they're playing much better football. Will they be able to? Create turnovers with Trubisky. Who's inexperienced started a playoff game? Matt Nagy is a very smart, very creative. Andy Reid coaching tree. Just like Doug Peterson. They coach together in Kansas City disciple. So he's a smart football, man and offensive, man. That's the part that's going to be interesting to me that the little chess match there with Doug having an idea of what Matt likes to do. And then, of course, Matt and turn being able to counter knowing what Doug likes to do that. That's the thing. That's fascinating to me. I mentioned offensively. To recall when is a guy to keep your eye on sort of become more of a feature guy than the Jordan Howard. But it's really, and we'll get into some of the other weapons, of course. Trae Burton is there but from a defensive perspective. That's where the game is won for Chicago. And it's Khalil Mack. Who came over from the raiders, they give a lot up. But it was worth it. It's a team Hicks who's really really good defensive tackle inside. This defensive line is tough. And they're good. Have a good rookie and roquan Smith. This is going to be a challenge for the eagles. That's for sure. But I like their chances. Let's go to Mike in Westchester, Mike. You're on ninety four to be IP. Rob your best, man. Happy new year. Right. Thanks you to. Hey. Iran gets tonight eagles point what a disgrace a six and Brandon's. They have to go and get help. They are nothing without Joel meet nothing, Mike. It's unwatchable. I mean last night. I it was the perfect sorta like after all the eagles euphoria to settle in Sixers the game was on watchable. And you never felt like they were going to make any kind of run. It just had it. Would take at the end of the third quarter where it's like ninety two sixty no. And if you don't have Radic Butler Simmons just straight up going off, you have no chance. Yeah. It's that's just Turkey talent, Ben Simmons, and you just need to criticize at all. We're not shooting. It's like, I don't know what you're gonna. But Amir Johnson is it is it is. Gets two points and three rebounds. This is why you have to stop this. Like, I you have to get you have to call them number one. And you have to bring in a serviceable. I know you're not getting somebody great. But as serviceable serviceable backup center because it would be out of the lineup, Robin. They're gonna be. So there's going to be available guys locals about tides. And my her Robin Lopez. But they have to upgrade like they need. Obviously, they need bench help in other spots as well in a big way. But you have to get someone who can play a little bit behind beat. There's nothing right now, and you need. The feeder. Multiple teams absolutely smoked in the playoffs. Sure. They're flat out short. Yep. Iran. I'll tell you you said the MVP my in is Houston. He held us all together he got so criticized during the season for the team's lack of success. And he's all right. They all these calls and Doug Peterson do not lose the locker room. Asinine thomas. People made, you know. Well, yeah. And like I was very critical of them too. But he has done to me. That's true sign of a coach when you're your when things are at their worst and adversity is really set in the fact that he's been able to keep this thing together and these guys after that saints game where they got blown to bits to be able to still compete and play hard really said something bad about Doug. And and how they respect him in that locker really balanced, they really doubts back. Some if you're a Catholic would you play genius. I don't get it. I don't get it. You get hit. Chiefs cheap star hits hits them. I don't live your quarterback there. It is ridiculous. I mean, you you go to the point where you sit Elliott, which is fine. Like, I get it. Right. Why are the he's in there Coopers in there? Yup. And by the way, how bad was it? Those one o'clock slate games, I was torturous early Sunday. Just because I'm always up early. But man, I didn't think I was gonna be able to make it the four twenty five. I I'm so I'm so happy. There's there's there's fans are idiots sculptures morons bitching, because we weren't three whining and crying. They got everything. Everything is your I I'm happy. But I'll tell you this. Just the way they're playing right now. Song? There's a really good team. Quarterbacks. Young quarterbacks could probably put pressure on that story about Michael Bennett is one of my favorite players on the team right now. He gets it. We also. She was great. I saw it. Like, he I can we see if we can find this. And I'm thinking, my producer Michael to fury. He Michael Bennett was on with Derek gun after the game on NBC sports, Philadelphia. I'll get it for you throughout the course of the show. He was unbelievable and giving love to the fans, and it wasn't just gratuitous. It was real was from the heart. You could tell. Mike Wallace in this Saturday. Now, it's tough. It's tough, Mike. Thanks, brother. You rodman. I I don't know if we're going to see him or not I have great it's gravy. But I wouldn't count on it. You know, just to get back to his point about Doug. In addition to keeping things together. And I and I have to give credit where Credit's due. I have to give these guys props because I've been very as I mentioned very critical of them all season two, but micro and deuce and press Taylor. You know for as much as I didn't think this team was well prepared going into a lot of games the season, really. The first the large majority of the games. Clearly, they're feeling it right now with Nick foles and you're seeing the ball spread around you saw it yesterday. But just another example of a lot of guys catching balls, and as much as that credit, certainly the large portion of it goes to Nick foles because he's out there executing. You have to give credit to the coaches as well. Eight different eagles caught passes yesterday. So the eagles go into this five and a half point underdogs in this game bears the season at home or seven in one the only loss to the patriots. So they're very good home team. And the beauty is. There is an anything that the core of this eagles group hasn't seen. You went from last year in a nail biter back and forth. Survival game against Lanta in the first round of the playoffs. To a game. Where a lot of people thought the Vikings were to come in here and beat the eagles the Vikings statistically, we're just off the charts. Really both sides of the ball and eagles not just being destroyed. Then you're playing the defending Super Bowl champs the dynasty of this era in a Super Bowl game where they didn't punt. And you still want me think about that for a minute. And the same core group is the one that you're going to battle with on Sunday in Chicago. That's all bodes very, well that's taking nothing away from Chicago. Who's really good? I am not underplaying Chicago. When I say, I think the eagles win the game. It's more of a tribute to the eagles. And it is a knock on the bears because I think the bears are really good, Adam and Germans out. What's up Adam happy new year? Hey, happy new year. Thanks, rob. I talked to you in the eagles were four and five. And I was like realistically, rob. You really think they're going to make the playoffs. And we were both in agreement. I said absolutely not. Yeah. I make no bones about it. I know I'm not saying you're wrong. I we were both in agreement. No. So what I'm saying to you is not of this team is Nick foles extension of the coach on the field. Nick foles. Nick foles has done. I know he broke his collarbone in that one season slammed when didn't steal the guy coming. But to me, I don't see him as an injury prone quarterback. But that injury. Yeah. He took hard and he was out for the rest of the season. If I'm not mistaken. He was six and two when he broke the thing it was six and to rate went down. And he hasn't even played that great. And the thing is they were wondering one early when twenty players changed teams and he had to start the season. I don't go by that. I you know, I go by after five games. You kind of see you know, Carson Wentz you had a chance to go through the season. I understand he he had his injury issue. And he was trying to come back. But he like he's had two seasons where he's gotten to play a lot of games Nick foles, then had to come in in a very difficult situation against Iran. He's he played three grade quarters, then he played four great orders against the taxes. And I thought he played you know, three and a half three quarters against while. He's been awesome. He he is no, no, no bones about it. He he will have a flak jacket in Chicago. You have to keep it. He's thirty years old. He's not thirty five. I don't care if he's in the prime this career, all these coaches to see him all on film. He is. So I will let me ask you that. Adam what are you doing? Because the obviously it's not gonna work. He it's a mutual deal. So he can opt out this this works both ways. What are you doing with whites? If you're signing him you have to figure it out in terms of went in terms of the best deal possible. So you know, that your future is set up to get another quarterback when you is is coming to the end of his contract, but you have to keep bowls. You have to there are not many quarterbacks. Like this that I mean whenever she makes the mistake the eagles rally around him when he made the mistake early in the game against Washington. No one was more mad at himself than false FANG three and out. They don't do that for win time of possession. He is so good at not only completion percentage like you say, but the time of jesse's able to hold the ball, even when he's throwing it constantly. I look I am. I don't think there's any question this team responds to this guy for a couple of reasons. One all players need to know is who's the guy who took me to a Super Bowl and went toe to toe with Brady, that's all you don't need to convince anybody, you know, that that that's they're they're on board with and there's no doubt they're on board with them. But I think they play hard for wets to. I don't think it's it's a knock on once. I think they believe in both guys. I really do. But I think there's a there is something like this guy is scorching right now. And you're riding a really hot hand. And when you're riding a hot hand at that position. You gotta love your chances. But nobody's gonna beat Chicago. Nobody this year's, but I've you think Chicago..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

WGR 550 Sports Radio

10:24 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

"From three around there. You're probably gonna lose. Twenty three of thirty four from the line for the bucks. There you go. Yeah. That's big to his career high brook. Lopez almost thirty six percent from three this year. So that was a good sign. Yeah. I like him and George hill and that box team, by the way, I think is much better than people give him credit for and if you look up and down the standings. And traditionally when we get to Christmas day, we all kind of start standing watching and who's a buyer who's going to be a seller in February. And if you look at the standings right now, the Milwaukee Bucks are one game behind the Toronto. Raptors who I think could be easily been the best team in the east. But that Milwaukee Bucks team is winning because Jason kids now their head coach anymore, and they just are so much fundamentally they are so much better than they have ever been that. I can remember them authencity. They actually figured out how to integrate Eric Bledsoe. I just think that the bucks are going to be a danger to deal with. But you look at the the Christmas day games today. This Boston Philly game. I think is critical for Philadelphia. This is in. I don't mean to make too much of a Christmas day game again. But I think Philadelphia since the Jimmy Butler trades been very good. But I also think Philadelphia is struggling to figure out how to use their guys and how to fit them all together. And I know that they're coming off of a massive win against Toronto. And I think it was really important, but a couple of things that you get out of that game Jordan the minute rotation in that game. Joel Embiid only thirty one minutes in that game. And I think that is significant he scores twenty seven points. But he only plays thirty one minutes. Do you think that Jimmy Butler being on the Sixers has minimized Joel Embiid? I still think Philadelphia is is understanding it's rhythm with Jimmy Butler. I mean, they they you're talking about a guy in Ben Simmons who was on the ball a lot you talking about a guy in Joel Embiid who's having the best year of his career of the MVP candidate. And he's going to have to understand that now with Jimmy. He's not gonna be play making as much as he was. But I think as a whole no, and I think Jimmy Butler gives the six or something they didn't have before which is a super nasty defender who is also able and willing to make big shots as we've already seen down the stretch. So I I I like Jimmy Butler. I think you know, his his biggest issue in Minnesota was that he didn't feel like that team was committed to winning. And and I think he he'll have he will not have that issue in Philly when you're talking about guys like Embiid and Simmons or JJ and. A coach Brett Brown who has been criticized for Xs and os. But it's not criticized for for galvanizing young player. So I I'm a fan of of this of this of the move. Well, I like the trade don't get me wrong. I like the trade, but the way that this team sputters, and the fact that Joel Embiid, Ben, really, maybe it's more Ben Simmons as we talk. Sixers in Celtics on Christmas day basketball here on the wheel Cain showed ESPN radio and the ESPN app. I think Jordan Schultz when we talk about the Sixers, I think that you have to look at Ben Simmons still getting a free pass for not being a jump shooter. He is he is barely a mid range shooter these days, he really is layup or dunk and not much else in I give him credit because he's he's carving a niche. He's the best second year player to ever win rookie of the year, in my opinion. But you know, I look at I look at Ben Simmons. There's so much more there if they would just. Force him to shoot the jumper. And I think they really need that if they're going to go on because I don't see any way they challenge. Toronto this year for the east. Well, well, I'm Simmons is still not shooting threes. He's still in the infancy stages of his perimeter game has a score. But because he's so lethal as a passer because he's so good at pick and roll. And because he gets downhill in a fast break, he's able any cysts. So smart he's able to control a game even without being able to shoot threes or 20-footers. So you're right. I mean, if if Simmons were to become a respectable three point shooter. I'm not saying forty percent, I'm saying thirty three thirty four percent. Everything would open up for him in this offense. He's not there yet. But there's no doubt in my mind. He he will get there. But he is as talented as a passer with his size. Tim is I've seen in twenty years and Joel Embiid has to embrace things a little more as well. Because this team has way too much potential. Joel Embiid complaining about shooting threes. He's not comfortable with it. He he straight up said he does. Don't want to ever be a pick and pop big, man. And I think in in two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen I think you have to be a pick and pop big man, you have to if you if you are going to win at a high level. And if you look at the teams that score a lot of points look at the box again, not to keep going back to the box. But Jonah certainly is not a great three point shooter. Even though he's working on that. But brook Lopez is a big reason why they score an Eastern Conference leading hundred sixteen points a game because you have your bigs that can shoot the three. And I think they're desperate for it. I I wonder about Joel embiid's long-term viability on that team, especially and I don't know what's going to happen with Jimmy Butler long-term. I have no idea if they wind up keeping that group of three together. I kinda doubt it Jordan as crazy as that is I kinda doubt that Butler Simmons and Embiid stay together term. It just doesn't seem like those three are a fit year in and you're out somebody's going to get burned out. Yeah. Well, if anything for me like. This this Jimmy Butler experiment will allow you allow us as fans to see the progression of Simmons and Embiid because it's it's going to eliminate a lot of a lot of the playmaking pressure. But it's also going to allow them to to play off the ball. But Simmons to your point like, I'm not as worried about Embiid as I if I'm going to be worried it's going to be more about Simmons because he is so much better with the ball in his hands. And he's not able to spot up and shoot shoot three pointers. I mean, he's just not there yet. And I do like the Butler move for them. I think it makes them a contender by Celtic that anymore shooting as a whole, you know, they they don't have coming to. They don't have the SARS is not their belly. The they need help. Well, and I think J radical also helps them with that. But the other team that I think a lot of people are not talking about. And they're very quietly flying under the radar as the best defensive team in the NBA in my opinion in that that'd be the Indiana Pacers. That that's another team in this is much like last year. I think the Pacers are going to be one of those teams that you really going to have to reckon. And I think the Philadelphia seventy Sixers in especially in a short series. They're not getting by the Pacers. I don't know that they're getting by the Celtics the matchups with with Indiana, especially Indiana, Philly, I love love love the matchups with with with Indiana on Indiana side in especially especially if all the depots healthy. I love the ups in favor of Indiana. When when they would have to go against a Philadelphia, see my feet with Indiana is I love Indiana. I'm just Savona depot and Turner like that trio's terrific. And the fact that it's the bonus place twenty plus minutes and gives them that kind of production. But I just don't think Indiana is talented enough yet to to to beat Philadelphia Philadelphia. You have three legitimate top fifteen players in the end doesn't have that yet. I think Indiana is sending but I still think Philadelphia's more talented, and as a result, I would take the Sixers and in a series. Especially prolong one. But I I mean Indiana's very good there. There are there are knocking on the doorstep. If you look at the the says a whole like box raptors Celtic Sixers. I I wouldn't be surprised if any one of those four teams came out of the east, and then I think Indiana's right there. But I still think they need to add another wing. Well, it'll be interesting because I am of the belief that as we talk MBA on the wheel Cain show at ESPN radio in the ESPN app. I'm of the belief that defense wins championships and new Bill Parcells defense wins champion. Well, especially in the NBA, though, especially in even a guy like Bill Parcells we'll tell you. If you in today's NBA if your guys under under one hundred points a game at her under look at the look at the the Houston Rockets the other day, they break an NBA record for most three pointers in a game. What do we do? We jump up and down and they're amazing. What a juggernaut. Well, then Chris Paul dropped his hand. Mm string running up the court. So he's in and out of their lineup again. And what do we automatically? Do. We remember when they were what twenty something in the in the Western Conference finals last year. You live by the three new die by the three. Boy, you can live you sell well off the boards. Okay. I'm just gonna just just to prove my point about why three point shooting is is the best. And why love it the fact that I that's what I did the warriors last year led the league at three point shooting Celtics were too. So those two teams were right? And then obviously, you can talk about the kings and the pistons and the wizards, but from an offensive standpoint, if you can't make threes, then then you're you're almost dead in today's day and age now, what gets lost about the warriors is that they also defend now they didn't play the same level of defense last year as they did three years ago, but they they are still a solid defensive team and the rockets last year made made improvements defensively they went for the first time they became a top. Ten defensive efficiency team. So I mean, listen you have to be able to guard people get SOPs. But if you can't spread the floor and make threes, you're not gonna wanna championship. And that's why I think like the Sixers are still not there. Whether Pacers are still not there yet. Well, it'll be interesting Pacers. I love the Pacers. And I love the Lakers. Warriors coming up tonight. Eight eastern ABC and ESPN next down the wheel Cain show. Big big news yesterday. 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"butler simmons" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

10:23 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Around there. You're probably gonna lose. Twenty three thirty four from the line for the box. There you go. Yeah. That's big to his career high brook Lopez's almost thirty six percent from three this year. So that was a good sign. Yeah. I like him and George hill, and that bucks team, by the way, I think is much better than people give him credit for and if you look up and down the standings. And traditionally when we get to Christmas day, we all kind of start standing watching and who's a buyer who's going to be a seller in February. And you look at the standings right now, the Milwaukee Bucks are one game behind the Toronto. Raptors who I think could be easily been the best team in the east. But that Milwaukee Bucks team is winning because Jason kids not their head coach anymore, and they just are so much fundamentally they are so much better than they have ever been that. I can remember them offensively. They actually figured out at eight ingrate Eric Bledsoe. I just think that the box are going to be a danger to deal with. But you look at the the Christmas day games today. This Boston Philly game. I think is critical for Philadelphia. This is in. I don't mean to make too much of a Christmas day game again. But I think Philadelphia since the Jimmy Butler trade has been very good. But I also think Philadelphia is struggling to figure out how to use their guys and how to fit them all together. And I know that they're coming off of a massive win against Toronto. And I think it was really important, but a couple of things that you get out of that game warden the minute rotation in that game. Joel Embiid only place thirty one minutes in that game. And I think that is significant he scores twenty seven points. But he only plays thirty one minutes. Do you think that Jimmy Butler being on the Sixers has minimized Joel Embiid? I still think Philadelphia is is understanding it's rhythm with Jimmy Butler. I mean, they they you're talking about a guy in Ben Simmons who was on the ball a lot. You're talking about a guy and Joel Embiid who's having the best year of his career of the gym and MVP candidate. And he's going to have to understand that. Now, Jimmy, he's not going to be playmaking as much as he was. But I think as a whole no, and I think Jimmy Butler gives the six or something they didn't have before which is a super nasty defender who is also able and willing to make big shots as we've already seen down the stretch. So I I like Jimmy Butler. I think you know, his his biggest issue in Minnesota was that he didn't feel like that team was committed to winning. And and I think he he'll have he will not have that issue in Philly when you're talking about guys like Embiid and Simmons or JJ Radic. In a coach and Brett Brown who has been criticizes for Xs and os. But it's not criticized for for galvanizing young players. So I'm a fan of of this of this of the move. Well, I liked the trade. Don't get me wrong. I like the trade, but the way that this team sputters, and the fact that Joel Embiid, and really maybe it's more Ben Simmons as we talk. Sixers and Celtics on Christmas day basketball here on the wheel Cain showed ESPN radio and the ESPN app. I think Jordan shorts when we talk about the Sixers. I think the you have to look at Ben Simmons still getting a free pass for not being a jump shooter. He is he is barely a mid range shooter these days, he really is layup or dunk and not much else. I give him credit because he's he's carving a niche. He's the best second-year player to ever win rookie of the year, in my opinion. But you know, I look at I look at Ben Simmons. There's so much more there if they would just. Forced him to shoot the jumper. And I think they really need that if they're gonna go on because I don't see any way they challenge. Toronto this year for the east. Well, well, I'm Simmons is still not shooting threes. You know, he's still in the infancy stages of his perimeter game as a score. But because he's so lethal as a passer because he's so good in pick and roll. And because he gets downhill in a fast break, he's able any any so smart he's able to control a game even without being able to shoot threes or 20-footers. So you're right. I mean, if Simmons were to become a respectable three point shooter. I'm not saying forty percent, I'm saying thirty three thirty four percent. Everything would open up for him in this offense. He's not there yet. But there's no doubt in my mind. He he will get there. But he is as talented as a passer with his size. Tim is I in twenty years and Joel Embiid has to embrace things a little more as well. Because this six or team has way too much potential. Joel Embiid complaining about shooting threes. He's not comfortable with it. He he straight up said he does. Don't want to ever be pick and pop big man. And I think in in two thousand eighteen two thousand nineteen I think you have to be a pick and pop big man, you have to if if you're going to win at a high level. And if you look at the teams that score a lot of points look at the box again, not to keep going back to the box. But Jonah certainly is not a great three point shooter. You've been always working on that. But brook Lopez is a big reason why they score an Eastern Conference leading hundred sixteen points a game because you have your bigs that can shoot the three. And I think they're desperate for it. I I wonder about Joel embiid's long-term viability on that team, especially and I don't know what's going to happen with Jimmy Butler long-term. I have no idea if they wind up keeping that group of three together. I kinda doubt it as crazy as that is I kind of doubt that Butler Simmons and Embiid stay together term. It just doesn't seem like those three are a fit year in year out somebody's going to get burned out. Yeah. Well, if anything for me like. This this Jimmy Butler experiment will allow you and allow us as fans to see the progression of Simmons and Embiid because it's it's gonna eliminate a lot of a lot of the playmaking pressure. But it's also allow them to to play off the ball more. But Simmons to your point like, I'm not as worried about 'em be as if I'm going to be worried it's going to be more about Simmons because he is so much better with the ball in his hands. And he's not able to spot up and shoot shoot three pointers. I mean, he's just not there yet. And I do like the Butler move for them. I think it makes them a contender by still think that anymore shooting as a whole, you know, they they don't have coming to. They don't have the SARS is not there. Belen L the bay need help. Well, and I think JJ Radic also helps them with that. But the other team that I think a lot of people are not talking about in. They're very quietly flying under the radar as the best defensive team in the NBA in my opinion, and that that'd be the Indiana Pacers. That that's another team in this is much like last year. I think the Indiana Pacers are going to be one of those teams that you really going to have to reckon. And I think the Philadelphia seventy Sixers in especially in a short series. They're not getting by the Pacers. I don't know that they're getting by the Celtics the matchups with with Indiana, especially Indiana, Philly, I love love love the matchups with with with Indiana on Indiana side in especially especially if all the depots healthy. I love the matchups in favor of Indiana. When when they would have to go against the Philadelphia, see my feet with Indiana is I love Indiana, Savona, said all depot and Turner like that trio's terrific. And the fact that it's the bonus place twenty plus minutes and gives them that kind of production. But I just don't think Indiana is talented enough yet to to to beat Philadelphia Philadelphia. You have three legitimate top fifteen players in the end. It doesn't have that yet. I think Indiana is sending but I still think Philadelphia's more talented, and as a result, I would take the Sixers and. In a series, especially a prolong one. But I I mean Indiana's very good there. There are there are knocking on the doorstep. If you look at the the east as a whole like box raptors Celtics Sixers, I I wouldn't be surprised if any one of those four teams came out of the east, and then I think Indiana's right there. But I still think they need to add another wing. Well, it'll be interesting because I I am of the belief that as we talk NBA on the wheel show at ESPN radio in the ASEAN app. I'm of the belief that defense wins championships and Bill Parcells defense wants champion. Well, especially in the NBA, though, especially in even a guy like Bill Parcells we'll tell you. If you in today's NBA if you're guarding guys under under one hundred points a game under look at look at the the Houston Rockets the other day, they break an NBA record for most three pointers in a game. And what do we do? We jump up and down their amazing. What a juggernaut well, then Chris Paul? Dropped his hamstring running up the court so he's in and out of their lineup again. And what did we automatically? Do. We remember when they were what twenty something in the in the Western Conference finals last year, you live by the three and you die by the three. Boy, you can live you sell well off the boards. Okay. I'm just gonna just just to prove my point about why three point shooting is is the best. And why love it aside from the fact that I that's what I did the warriors last year led the league in three point shooting Celtics were too. So so those two teams were right? And then obviously, you can talk about the kings and the pistons and the wizards, but from an offensive standpoint, if you can't make threes, then then you're you're almost dead in today's day and age now, what gets lost about the warriors is that they also defend they didn't play the same level of defense last year as they did three years ago, but they are still a solid defensive team and the rockets last year made made improvements defensively they went for the first time they became. Top ten defensive efficiency team. So I mean, listen, you have to be able to guard people get SOPs, but if you can't spread the floor make threes, you're not gonna wanna championship. And that's why I think like the Sixers are still not there while the Pacers are still not there yet. Well, it'll be interesting Pacers. I love the Pacers. And I love the Lakers and warriors coming up tonight. Eight eastern ABC and ESPN next down the wheel Cain show. Big big news yesterday. 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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

04:17 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"So this is one of the things that you and I kind of disagreed on. A you've always said your game is your game. And you said LeBron is going to need to be a little submissive here and change my takeaways. It'd be like asking me. All right, Colin. Now, you're going to be a tandem show. You and got lead for three hours. I'd be pushing. You're right though. You're right. This is what the every LeBron teams become fellas. You're right. They set up for your jumpers. I'm gonna control thing. I was just talking to a scout on my way in here. And he said, look, you know, what I say about the Lakers. They're better with LeBron on the ball. I know he's talked about he wanted to be all throughout this might sound ridiculous. He's not LeBron off the ball. He doesn't really know. How to play that? Well off the ball who he is. No. I mean, he's never grown play that way. And you know, he'll make his nice passes from the elbow and things like that sometimes off the ball. But generally he's standing around, and you know, just consistently. He's not great off the ball. He's better with the ball in his hand. I mean, Rondo and Lonzo you can I. I make the argument you could move both those guys and get pieces back, but this Laker team every LeBron team comes down to he's a force of nature surrounding shooters a baddie around Kevin love, Kyrie Irving. Kyle Korver JR Smith what the Lakers need to be shooters more LeBron with the ball and more shooters. Here's the challenge, you know, the Brian and I've asked him this question directly over the years. He has never wanted to commit to being a time point guard. He doesn't want to do I think some of it wears them out because obviously is much bigger than the guys, you know, the other point guards and playing at that pace and playing the whole ninety four feet like that. I think it can wear him down. I think that was the problem in Denver. He was worn out by having played point guard so much. So that's the challenge any presents a challenge for the team because you don't really know when okay Rhonda point guard now or is the off the ball. And that's all part of the adjustment to play with him. Rob. And I on I we have booby Gibson on the Brandon Cleveland, and he's saying look when you play with LeBron you kind of have to just sacrifice all your individual stats and you because he's so good. The best way for the team to win is everybody to play off him, and you have to be willing to make that individual sacrifice because it's going to be for the betterment of the team. Dwayne wade. Did it Chris Bosh did it and they got to rings kyri didn't wanna do it? And he left, you know. So that's the challenge. And that's part of this whole adjustment period for the Lakers. Lebron okay. You've got some interesting stuff. I was a big believer in the Jimmy Butler to the Sixers move. I'm not I don't wanna hear about your join. I talk about I don't hear about your prospects. Here about your draft picks. Okay. Here about that. Gimme players. Gimme men. I like Jimmy Butler to the Sixers, but and you've been on the forefront of this. Butler Simmons and Embiid did that that John belie is a little toxic spicy. I'm with you. I think it was a good move. Is there in the honeymoon peer right now, they're six and two so far they like each other, right? And Butler has deferred both on the court. He's playing great. But you know, he's not shooting a ton and off the court. All right. The question that some Iran Philly are wondering is when is Jimmy going to assert his leadership because as great as they are Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons. They don't work that hard. They don't now they're not soft like the guys in Minnesota. That's what rub Jimmy the wrong way. With eighty thought they were soft innate in work that hard. He these guys aren't soft. But they don't work are M B doesn't like practice, and he's left shoot arounds early practices early like and Brett Brown doesn't control them like B does what he wants and Jimmy's just watching it observing Jimmy works but off Jimmy's been. There at the gym at seven AM on game days running working like he works hard. That's how he became what he is..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:20 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"The way, dukes best program in the country villas Villanova now. Second Kentucky third Kansas fourth Villanova has leapfrog Kentucky in terms of getting it done in March. They really have Jay right front of the show. Awesome. Chris Bruce are joining us. So it's an NFL Monday. But there are a couple of things here. There was a massive trade Saturday in the NBA. Jimmy Butler is now in Chicago, not happy goes to Minnesota, not happy now goes to Philadelphia in my takeaway is listen, man. I understand moving around in the NBA. Jimmy Butler is now in his third team in a very short time. Is this the move? We think is great for Philadelphia. Or do we have potential firework shows here, that's the great look. Jimmy Butler is a tremendous player both sides of the floor. But I'm not so sure Minnesota didn't win this straight. Okay. You got shooting. Covington is a very good two way player defense. He's tough long spreads the floor because he could shoot the three Sarge consumer shoot two three and Karl Anthony towns is game had declined. Yes. There's no answer buts about it. I don't know how I think the personal stuff was overblown with him in Butler. Not that there wasn't something there, but his play declined completely. So now he's going to be back. The pecking order is set. And I think they may be a better team Philadelphia on paper. It's fine. The problem is you have no shooting JJ, Rettig smart. Really? You're only shooter needs to start put Foltz on the bench. Yeah. No. I mean full is a bus. Here's my whole thing about the process and Philadelphia Nerlens Noel Okeafor right Carter Williams. These guys are boss or massive underachievers. I love Simmons and Embiid, but I hear that don't get along. You don't have any shooting in shooters league. The Lakers haven't missed on anybody in two years, but they don't have a cool nickname. Right. This whole thing with Butler Simmons and Embiid to me feels like three egos. Well, that's a great point. Because I think there's two ways that I'm skeptical. I hope it works. I love Embiid and Simmons, and I would like nothing more than to be playing relevant basketball in late may and June. But Butler wants to be the man. Okay. Can you give me the third guy on that team? Now hitting be the second leading score. Right. Are only the curve is the leading score of his close we him. And b but the order is Embiid and Simmons first and then Butler Kenny handle that number one number two. In a lot of cases column we see Carmelo Anthony. Your game is your game and Jimmy Butler is relatively ball dominant. He's. A decent three point shooter breeze out of three, you know, really three point shooter. So the floor is not going to be spread. How I just don't know if I see the fit I don't mind Philly doing and if I'm Philly, here's my eye. I'm doing I like how right I sit back, and I watched this if it's clearly not working I may trade Butler in February. Okay. Or I play it out and see. But I just sit back and watch the experiment to see how it works. But my keepers are Embiid and Simmons, and then I'll see how it works with Butler. Okay. So Colli Leonard goes to a good team out east and then Jimmy Butler good player goes to a team out east the east is way better..

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"butler simmons" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast

Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast

02:32 min | 1 year ago

"butler simmons" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast

"Okay. So before the break, I asked you is this good trade. Let's start for Phillies dot not impossible. Of course, that both sides could have made a good trade here. But just for infill. It's also possible that both sides didn't. But I so I'm really ambitious about this for the the Sixers. I mean, defensively it's going to be awesome. But I think the Sixers could have a good defense either. I'm not really concerned about that. My this is this is the type of deal that makes a team easier for the best squads to defend, and I'm not sure that what they can add around Butler Simmons and Embiid defects that like I said when we did the time to panic with Ethan the my biggest concern with them was the incongruity of their three most high profile players and now directly. Replacing Markelle faults with Jimmy Butler, but a lot of those concerns still exists 'cause Jimmy Butler is not going to change the way he plays. Ben Simmons isn't going to change the way he plays. Joel Embiid probably easing in change the way play. So I could be wrong that that the sum is greater than I expected to be. But I think each of these guys takes a little bit away from the others on the offensive end, and you can still build a really good team. But if we're talking like a championship that gets Chuck will. So you say you wouldn't have done this. Let's talk about Covington real quick. I mean, he he to me is like the the the big Julia and it because he was only making ten million for the next three years. He turns twenty eight in December and the three years up to this. When he going to be making around ten million. Remember, he they did that renegotiation in extension that frontloaded his new contracts. They're able to get him for really cheaply Enya. He's worth more than that. Certainly did have a terrible playoffs last year. But he's been better again this year. I mean, he is a guy who's an aggressive shooter. You gotta guard him out there. And he's a outstanding defy. Off the ball and a solid one on the ball know. But he did it. I mean, I think it is worthwhile to note that he did kinda fail in the playoffs last year both the shooting. I think is something that could've come around. But he was you know, they're taking him out of the rotation for TJ McConnell that really defensively he was not good enough as their one on one stopper on the wing. So I think I like I like this trade for Philly because they weren't going anywhere with what they had. I mean, Covington good player value contract. You know, as a second banana wing defender as you can feel pretty good about maybe you know, Simmons could have been the first banana. But I think he's a solid player. But you know, probably one who was in a little bit too big of a role again when we're talking about this rarified air of competing for a championship and Butler is like an a one type wing defender of..

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