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Ep. 577: Dry Sub with Aimee Mann

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1:30:13 hr | 1 year ago

Ep. 577: Dry Sub with Aimee Mann

"Give little time for the child within you don't be afraid to be young and free onto the lock central away, the keys and take coffee shows and sex and run you it's Jordan Jesse go. I'm Jesse thorn, America's radio sweetheart, Jordan Morris Baloi detective, oh boy detect. We just ended weird for civil. So I thought I would did I really it was a little weird. Do you think? That's just be. I did not do it on purpose. Do you think? It's because I'm so pumped up on Sudafed. That's one explanation. Are you pumped on the fed? Oh, yeah. Like, I was fucking Issan old Trump at the presidential debate. He Soudan what do they call? What do they call being blast on Sudafed getting ready getting ready? Yeah. I like the cupcakes. You got it, man. I am. So I'm completely out of my mind. Wow. Taking some etc. Today. Taking a number of Sudafed had to go through that sad ritual where you don't mix baby come on to the you know, where you go to the pharmacist, and you have to convince your meth dealer. Come on. You know, the old, you know, the old rhyme Sudafed before excedrin you'll hurt your head in. That situation. Yeah. And of course, etc. Before Sudafed, you'll be dead. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Well, I guess that gives the light of that old wives tale because here I am baby. Wow. Podcasting and better than ever alive. Well, messing up syllables, and those you know, what fuck those old wives in their tails. They're never true. Sorry. I don't mean to come out against old wives. Look if I wanted to tail I'd ask Ganji. The sale of Ganji. I don't know. What that is the first Japanese Malval. Oh, yeah. Kenji on the line unless he somebody's wife, then I don't want to hear from him. Well, if he's a young wife the ad here from a young a truly elderly wife. Right. Yeah. But not an old wife, no old wives are the ones spreading those tale. A wife in a coma. Sure. Absolutely my favorite Smith song. Should we introduce our guests? I'd love to of course, she's an award-winning singer songwriter. She's a gifted actor a lot of people don't know that. She's the host core. Co host of the art of processes and band brand new smash hit maximum fun podcast. She is much too. Good for this, Amy, man. Thank you for that fabulous introduction. I completely object to the I'm a terrible actor, but thank you. I've I've stumbled my way through a couple of things it's very don't love to stumble. My way. So it was we were talking about this a little bit before, Mike. But a friend was gushing to me when because we were eating gushers love live, a friend gush. Yeah. God. Yeah. And my friends are just gushing friend, and I were just fruit by the foot and glue. Gushing to me about how great you were on the the Gianni Versace. She show. Thank you. I just you know, saying song to version of the song. I had already sung before. So it wasn't really. Was it like one of those tending to sing? Oh, what is it called lip synching? What was it? Like one of those things where a band plays at the peach pit for the cast of nine. Oh, two one. Oh. Or they go to the max to perform for the what's that show called save. I think max only had close up magic. Never played Harry Anderson come to the max, no. There was a budget. Harry Anderson on saved by the bell who performed close up magic for the kids. But it would have some sort of like symbolism to what they were going on. What was going on with him that week? Really? I think so I watched a lot of saved by the bell. I don't remember Eddie magical metaphor, not at all. Yeah. I remember at time on out of this world where ABRAHAM LINCOLN put EV's cashmere sweater into what he called the makes small machine turns out. It was the dryer. Oh boy. Where's that reboot? Yeah. Come on. I've watched none no saved by the bell. But the magic metaphor segment intrigues me now. Yeah. What? So what would you? So you. Okay. So you were on the research you program. You were very funny on Portland. Yeah. I got Fred and carry there and my instructions to them were please tell me exactly what to do. I am funny and don't embarrass you. I think it's it's a hilarious episode one of my Amy you would never embarrass them you'd embarrass yourself, and by sociation, they would be embarrassed. So they have a stake in it is not as big as my steak and the entire independent film channel. Yeah. Exactly. I think I think based on our experience hosting a television program for the independent film channel they're running barrier. Sibal? That's true there without shame. Yeah. You'd bears yourself barris the rerun if Lake Placid that comes on after you. Anyway, that's what's on. I have see these days. I think are pretty much who knows doesn't tell you. Do you have a favorite acting role? Do you have a like a time? When you think like, oh, man nailed it on this. I've really haven't done that much. I mean think that Portland thing was pretty good. Yeah. It's really unfairly proud of that. Do you have a dream role? Drew like a role to play. I'll give you an example, Hugh, Jackman just tweeted and a lot of people share this information with me, Hugh Jackman just tweeted that he will be playing professor Harold hill in the music man on Broadway. Oh, that's right now. I'm I'm no murderer. But you'd like to murder him for doing that. Is that the sentence should? Look, do you think he could take Jackman murderer hind? He's a man I could take him. If he didn't see me coming. Hewitt a sneak up on Jackman, hypothetically. Now, I wouldn't ever rubber is and you're in I wanted to hear I'm no murder. And. Plan tonight. I do own a black turtleneck so black pants, right? Some black. Let's say kids black kids sneaking shoes those are sneaking. Yeah. Yeah. I like to I like to speak in my shape ups. Oh, how is my bottom as I sure sneak up. That's how Joe Montana does all his murdering. You're murdering thing going to tie back to Hugh Jackman. Yeah. So that's what you're going to murder if I can take out Jackman and granted his Jackman and international treasure. Sure. Nothing wrong with Jackman per se other than the fact that as far as I can tell and I haven't looked at the depth charts recently. But as far as I can tell he's the only thing standing between me and being professor Harold hill on Broadway. Is that your goal is that a goal of yours? Yeah. That's why I got into the entertainment industry. Would you like to end by the industry? I guess I mean PR I feel like that calls for you singing, something from the music, man. Trouble little trouble. Yeah. I have my pipe. I don't think that's things. Darrelle is hard to get. Hey poopie. Show poopie too hard to say, it's not the Harold hill. Character I'm not what's the herald is gone. Do you get to seventy six trombones? What I do, you know songs from seventy six trombones. That's hill music, man. What's it Marian the librarian? That's a great one. Yeah. Just to bars. Are you really want me to sing? Yeah. We're we're you hetero. Production housing evening. Lovely blow in my pitch pipe again. Oh, you brought one two. We all have pitch. I'm not seeing occupied six Trump bows. Four. Followed by rows and rows of the finest virtuosos and drums of every shape inside into it sued it, huge step aside. Yeah. Man. Fluttering adamant. Well, this is a great German now has. Wait, hold on. Do you think the greatest show was about wolfberry? Pretty sure that was an art Hugh Jackman, he's not wolverine and all of his movies. No. He wasn't the one. I saw. Well, that's one. Yeah. There are other one hundred per cent. Yeah. No, you're right. I think he right. I think every movie and now boy does I gotta mean implications for the X men universe is. Now is. Now is the music man, part of the X men universe. Yeah. -solutely? Wow. Yeah. He's a mutant his his mutant power is salesmanship. Suddenly that show makes a lot more sense sell anything. Oh, yeah. And of course, the townspeople their mutant power is Iowa stubborn. What's the Wells Fargo wagons? Mutant power coming down. Hey, I wanted to because you know, it's the max fund drive. Yeah. That's true. Where we're we're talking. We're talking about we're talking about the fans how much we appreciate the fan. We've got some fans right here. Whereas as we record this is not what we normally do. But we decided this week. We would live stream this week's record on Facebook. So we've got fans some watching loaded up this around the world six eight nine of them. Wow. Nine. Bye. Mom. Yeah. Mom nine. Went down to eight. I think your mom's step away from the screen. Oh, yeah. Right. My mom, my mom just turned on Pudi pot. I'm mom loves PD, by the know why she's a crypto Nazi? Oh, yeah. PD pies. Pat, anyway, sorry to sorry to bandy about the name Pudi pie casually. Yeah. It's fun to say. Yeah. But I tell you I won't say it anymore. I was on Twitter and some were little I know. Well, I'm not bragging my curls logging by lifestyle. And someone at mentioned me, and they said, hey, I'm just tweeting at random people can you give a shout out to Putin pie. Oh, gosh. Support independent performers. What? And so I don't really know about PD by except that he was accused of being a crypto, not Satan. However. What I found myself. Wishing was that. We on Jordan Jesse go, right? The con- ending frustrating, and ultimately disappointing podcasts that we host. Had. People who cared so much about our program that they would be tweeting at Pudi pie to say. Hey, can you just give shout out to Jordan Jesse go? That would be nice. What's Pudi by doing that? We're not streaming. I guess I guess he's little stream having various views. Yeah. Views. I wanted to because we're talking about we're talking. We're talking about the fans this week, and I want I had a really nice interaction with a fan. And I just wanted to shout them out personally. And I just wanted to take this space in the show to create some space. I love spaces. She wanted to create a space to say just a high and a shoutout to Alex the bartender at the Hollywood and Highland. David busters while who looked at my ID. And I'm glad he checked my ID. Yeah. Of course. Let's because I mean, do I look under twenty one. Okay. I mean, I get so I'm flattered you know, what I said. Thank you. That's what I centered. Thank you to be yet to be at my age. Right. I that was thrill one. Yeah. To be. Yeah. Thrilled to is to be inside. David bus. You didn't even have your face on. When they I know many looked at the idea and he's right from the gym. He's like Jordan Morris says I listened to your podcast every day. Now, should you? Listen to the show every day. I mean, maybe not I mean, I guess you could probably divert your life NIA from towards a more dissolute path. It's an hour. I guess I just wonder at what you're listening to at that point. Are you re listening to the state because we only do an hour and a half a week, right? And the daily show doesn't the daily doesn't just, but you know, maybe it's aced out and segments now. Yeah. Maybe maybe ten minutes. I don't know. What is now? If you ask three days right there. You know? So okay. Maybe there's a backlog. Yeah. Maybe came late to the game. Could we could be he's just but he's I've been listening to every day for two weeks every week. There's ninety minutes of the regular show ninety minutes or. So you've got the gas. You got the band or you've got the different segments. And then there's the Doboy double. If you're a member of the patriotic side still boys, you're thinking, oh, this is not Doboy. I wish it was a dream. God that would be amazing to be under. What's anyway? But he said a honestly thought I did a great job on the show. I don't know. Why haven't been back? I I get it. Nicole is available. Sure. She's fun. She's great. Never. She is. Can she does the show? Amy. Do you want to do a podcast? The Nicole buyer is pitcher she's a delight you'll ever enjoy much better than Jesse. Yeah. Well, you know, can't be everything. So you can't sing the music man and be delightful. That's true. I'm not saying you're not delightful. Will I think I think jesse's what we call a single threat? And I got about a half threat by single thread is talk singing. Yeah. A little bit of a threat. I'm a regular Rex Harrison. Good suspender hook when you said that you so he checks my ideas, I've listened to your podcast every day, which which was the thrill to hear. I mean that's confused by it, but also thrilled. And then he said, hey, I also love NewsRadio. I love to get all kinds of you point. Sure, your podcast is a real experience. Joe Rogan said a first round on me, which was a thrill. I mean that is rates. Wow. And I hope I'm not getting him in trouble with Dave and Buster's corporate by saying that I don't know if he was. You know allowed to do that. If that's part of the I can help with this. Dave does listen a few weeks ago? Buster kind of sent me a really mean Email. We said something that I've sat him. Yeah. You don't wanna piss off BUSTER about BWI three. Yeah. And. He said all he listens to now. It's never not funny. Well. You like stop podcasting yourself because they're nicer than we are. That's true Canadian. And then he in the first round on me. And then he's like, you know, I I was thinking I was going to run into you here. And I am I that predictable. My that predictable. Do. I like to think of myself as an enigma. You don't know whether I'm coming or going. Anyway, you must've left a lot of clues. I'm listening. Yes. Dropped he got together. A crack team of our nation's greatest scientists and cracked your code keys. Right. I imagine he has a you know, he has a bulletin board in his room with red string tight various newspaper articles this way that way up. See Dow do I run into Jordan? He thought work at Dave and Buster's and sure enough. I mean, you never talked about Dave and busters on the show before. I think I have actually have you. Yeah. I don't really pay attention. You get Nicole in here with the fire. Go pyre replacing everyone that is a really beautiful experience was experience despite despite it being spite mean, not feeling like as much of an enigma as I thought I was because I assumed I was one. But yeah, it was really really nice when we have a shadow to Alex, thanks for that cocktail. It was great. I had a lovely time at the Hollywood and Highland. Did what was your drink tequila and club soda? Nice. You know, it's kind of a romance drink eat, right. Yes. Right. Just a just a masculine dude hanging out at David investors to real straight. Right. But in yet refreshing, my dad, drank it, my Granddad drinking tequila Spitzer like I should call it a sprint lighten it up. A little do you ever regular drink? What are you? What's your? I like Campari and soda which could not be more of a ladies drink. Yeah. But I met her now, I think I think a lot of like international gents like Campari like a well-traveled Gent. It's an appeared Tif. Yeah. Sure. When you ordered your tequila in soda what shelf. Did he go to? Just. Rail. Yeah. Hey, alex. Fuck you. I know it told the nice store. Hey Gabba about how about middle shelf. How at George Clooney's tequila. No. Wiki? Look, you please turtle entourage equa- Renta tequila multiple celebrity to kilos he could afford. But he chose Alex claims that he listens. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see about that. I had a really nice experience with a fan. Oh, yeah. Totally to tell probably a lot of our listeners. Don't know. But when I'm not working at maximum fine. I have a job as a private detective. I have just real quick today. Right. God that's a Coen brothers movie coming up, you know, it hold on. Just real quick. Is this story real? Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. So I worked downtown in an office as a private detective. And who sings it was it was the golden hour, and I had the shades. I have like louvred shades, you know, like Venetian blinds or whatever on my on, my windows, and I had them open somewhat. So little some light in. But also there were shadows. And honestly when I do that it gets hot. And so I went ahead and turn on the ceiling fan. Boy. Oh boy. Is that where you were going the whole time? I guess. Cool here called on. I had a great experience with the fan. The the other day. Okay. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I wanted to watch a lesser Robert deniro movie. Sure. Yeah. So. Yeah. Borodino and Wesley Snipes in that one. Yeah. I think Wesley Snipes wasn't that. I feel like the only thing I've never seen the movie, but I remember being excited because I think Robert deniro war. San Francisco Giants had in that movie. Oh, and that was like just as with you know, how I married an axe murderer or something little shot of your hometown. Sure. You get a real thrill out of this light real slice of life. I mean, it's not a rail tequila level thrill now, but there's this show. This is before your time, but a show TV show called Mannix that I remember watching as a kid in late sixties early seventies detective private detective, and there was a shot of him running down the street a block away, and I was so unreasonably excited block where I live. This is the streets. And so exciting where was it? What what part of town. It's in Los villas. Okay. But also, the idea of television shows shooting in Las villas seem I don't know why that seems ridiculous. But we've been watching a lot of a lot of those early seventies. Like cannon is is one. Okay. And it's just this boy the standards the the locations or so junkie feel like they just like pulled, you know, like drove around and pulled to the side of the street and was like, I guess this'll do like it just seemed so wildly unplanned. This shows good. No. The man I remember loving Mexican. And it's it's terrible. The writing is terrible. It's it's worse than it. Like if we just came up with with a plot right now and transcribed. Just exactly what I came to our minds in terms of dialogue. It would be like thousand presents better a mutant with an adamantine skeleton has to unload a bunch of a musical instruments on another respecting town off the top. That already is is better. But also just like the dialogue of so weirdly, still like it was almost like you have to try to make it not flow. It was real. It's really kind of amazing cannon is slightly better. But it's Lucas, it's all like parking lot parking lots and it's shot at night. And there's no light. So this is like murky shapes poor whenever I would like encounter a seventies rerun. As a kid chips. I think my mom likes ships rerun. I think she might ever watch. She might have had an Eric Estrada thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's usually the cause of jobs. I saw Estrada one time here in Los Angeles that go very, shiny, man. Yeah. Chinese rining sweating at a shine on him. No, natural the natural oil. Yeah. Like a seal he was healed up characterize him as taught. Not muscular, but talk good. Time off of gone flinging diamond Estrada, guess a light translucence, right? Yeah. I always remember as a kid being upset watching a seventies rerun by how Brown everything was so Brown much Brown. Everything is Brennan seventies Brown. It's from things were orange and others avocado. Green true, mostly was Brown Brown. And. Yeah, let let if things that were very close to Brown. Well, my dad's car when I was like Afghans going to say ten to fourteen he inherited it from a friend who died. It was a seventy seven Nova. It was metallic Brown. Oh, yeah. Give it a little Jewish. Yeah. Exactly. That brown. Brown the Brown Brown, baby. So you don't want a flat. It's actually a line in my personal ad for somebody to shows the Brown. Know what I mean? It's really really hot in here. I'm going to remove my sweater. Let's take a quick break. So maybe man can remove her sweater. We'll be back in just a second under Jessica. One. Jordan, Jesse go. I'm Jesse thorn off that fatty Jordan Moore's boy detective, Amen, nickname Lewis, come on name. The naked mean that could be the name of the hardboiled singing detective, Nick nameless. Jordan nameless punch punch. Why do we bring these dignified people onto our show? These people with a sense of self. Yeah. Keep fair bags in here. Dance dance Fairbanks. Hints into him in an alley. We wanna hear you bumble. Yeah. Did you integrate Fairbanks now? Yeah, we were both in tallied walk it at each other. The Dow was great he lives near there. Like in the dumpster. He lives in a house now. Anyway, it was really fun. Same day. I met Alex the guy who gave me the drink at Dave and Buster's elevate hot. It was great. Great. Why fest drinking in wandering the alley? I have a question for you. Okay. It is. So you're a you're a music icon. Thank you. You're not. You're not. Your fame has more depth than breadth. You are deeply meaningful to many people. But you are not very slightly meaningful to spike in billion, right? Take like, I know cameras into the ground. She was she kept super cool about it. But Jennifer marmer, the producer of judge John Hodgman when Amy came on came on judge John hodgman's live show here in Los Angeles. I could see anytime. Jen had finished talking to Amy and then walked far enough away that Amy couldn't see her anymore. She was basically doing like a. Because I think she had so admires Amy, man. I will be doing it at the car all the way home. I do. Thank you for your exaggerated response. I'll be doing the same thing. Dude is flattering. I appreciate it except your flatter. However, I think that is certainly I'm sure I'm sure it can be burdensome at times, but it's a nice kind of fame. And I wonder what the best thing you've ever gotten was and what kind of drink. It was at Dave and Buster's. For free gotten a ton of free things. Let me think about it during the course of this of this evening, maybe could be a homemade if I don't know if anybody's Sony likeness into a pillow, there was a there's a placement that someone painted a picture of of a cat that I sang about goose I have a song called goose no cone, and it's it was essentially about a cat, and they painted a place mat, which is like so bizarre that it was awesome. I don't know. I didn't know that song about a cat. It was kind of inspired by a cat. Just totally miss. It was actually about being it is not obvious. And it requires explanation. Every time I play which is just you know, makes me feel like an idiot. My radar is up for cat contact. So I'm like I've listened to that so many times I didn't get the. It's not it's not it's not obvious. It was so I was in. I was on tour. I was in Ireland. It was very cold and snowy, and it was one of the like I was feeling homesick and kind of depressed until I started writing the song. But I was also kind of at the same time looking on Instagram, and there is a cat who's who's owners? I follow the cat's name is goose. And it was a picture of for looking like little snow cone because she has had a cone like a white face in a cone on. Stitches or something? Yeah. So it was just like a sad. Nieto's like one of those like meow. Thanks. So I was using this phrase goose snow cone, kind of as a placeholder accept it. Just like it. I don't like it made sense because it was snowy, and like, I don't like it made sense of my mind. And I was like I'm going to replace this because I don't have to explain to retirement put song. And then of course, I say this exact story like, Yup. I don't have to explain it. But I'm going to hurt is. Yeah. So I never I never replaced it. I just couldn't come up with anything that made sense. And I was like fuck it. It's fine. I like it more. Now, Jordan has Jordan has certain standards sort of like how in Canada and the radio you have to play twenty percent Canadian. Yes. Uh-huh. Or whatever in Jordan's car. It's twenty percent of what they call cat. Con can't really take on basically. I just have to play that one. I told her I approve this. And I will write a song. I will. Right. A complete old cat an all cats on just for you. Buckling. Absolutely. Wow. I'll do it my life. It's complete. Would you like to give me the specs for your your cat? Like, what kind of cats on would you? What's your ideal cats? Oh my gosh. Wow. Can I get you some new? Describe your ideal hat. No, my ideal. Well, I would like to be about my cat. That would be nice. What's your cat's name? He was bug bug. And she's nice. She likes to sleep Shays the laser pointer it, no. And yes, she'd never gotten much into laser pointers, a rubber bands that she enjoys this is this is she's just got her own thing. Like, every cat says the laser pointer. It's rare cat will chase a rubber band. Yeah. Yes. Stands out of the pack. Right. Very hacked. She's very unique. Yes. So, you know, she likes to get a hug she she'll stand on the coffee. We got bug and hug already. We got like a rhyme scale wrenches. Rubberband? We have many things. We'll figure that's an easy one. Zone dot com. Could just go all bug hug drugs. Not now. Yeah. So rug cure. Ugh. About making coffee will you have to kind of weaker than you'd like right Cup of coffee of the cure rug. Yes. Yes. Personalized cats on just for you. Thank you. That would be amazing. Yeah. Put it in the hopper. Thanks. Yeah. That's what they call the Arctic process. Jordan. Podcasts. Right. We just processed a cat song. It is max fund drive time. All right. Let's max fun- fund drive. It maximum fun dot org. All of our shows are supported by you, the audience a little bit of our money. A little bit of our money comes from advertising, we have a couple of other things that a little bit of our money comes from. But especially for a show like Jordan, Jesse go almost all of our funding comes from you directly from you who are listening right now, all of the thousands of people who become maximum fund members and elect to support Jordan Jesse go. Yeah. Can I can I bring it back to Alex Dave and busters for a second? Yeah. Please do Alex bought around a drinks right to stand up, dude. Of course, be better believe I lifted tip. Oh, yeah. You. No piker. No. But so I I would like to encourage the listener to think about the pledge drive. You know, if you're not somebody who donates to NPR PBS or something maybe the donation concept can be a little hard to get your brain around. And I like to think about it like, this don't don't don't think of it as, you know, paying for something free. Think about it as a just just given a tip to somebody who's providing something you like, I think, you know, if you're out there, and you're listening, you probably don't think twice about drone down a tip for a bartender. Throwing something throwing something to the barista. Maybe they got a cute either. Or thing they're doing with the tips marvel or DC, I don't know those are fun. So, you know. Yeah. If you if you tip those people if you will over in and the music man right there the same guy at the same guy now. Yeah. If you if you if you're out there, and you're in your Tipper, and you should be. Yeah. Just think of this is throwing your favorite podcasters, you know, a bucket show if you wanna make it more than a bucket show. That's great. But a bucket show goes a long long way, you're getting hardy drink to hardy drink. Yes of podcast to filling potent drinks podcast. Yes, toes the tip out. There was a free drink. He just got and I love, and I love talking about it in this in these terms because you know, I think it does help people kind of kind of wrap their brain around it. And also when I make this analogy, I get to hear from the beautiful people of the I don't tip community. I love all your so far. I love you. And I love hearing from you at this time of year. You're so logical data system, Jordan. Yeah. Anyway, I do not want to hear from you. And they just finished the fountainhead finished the Fouts. Ed, they want me to at puberty by. This texted you a spreadsheet they made Amy. Yeah. Or podcast, the art of the process it unlike the show, which is a goof around stuff goes into it you and Ted kind of record. You're kind of bicoastal. You know, you have guests whom you research in order to talk about the process, Ted sits there and edits the show himself toes is a literal riots scar. No, he's unbelievable he. Yeah. He added himself. And and he's you know, he's got a good ear. He's great at it. But I'm I've been interested in this. I'll tell you when I got interested in unless we are still talking about. No, let's yeah. We're talking about podcasts. I did a thing. Okay. This requires me to brags. I'm just gonna get that over with do it. I was asked to in the to do a poetry thing at the death poetry jam the after Saturday Night Live at the Obama White House. That's the good White House. And that was the good one. And that was just it was so awesome. And I don't really know why was including the poetry thing. But God bless them. And so there was you know, poets and there there were a couple of other music musicians. But but I got to sort of see these poets not only performed, but there was a seminar that they did in the afternoon for high school poetry students are English students, and they answer questions and the PLO Billy Collins was he spoke particularly eloquently about he was asked about not really about process. But he somebody said, you know, how do you find your own voice in in poetry? And he said study the form because people who are interested in poetry will will come for the form. And if you perfect the form and inhabit the form your voice will emerge, and I just thought that there was. Something. So interesting about that, you know that. Because I, you know, people think that that an art form is about like, oh, I gotta have something to say like, no, you you have it's more. Like, you have to have something to do have already. Like, I have a no Pat here in just hearing those words from the former poet laureate of the United States. I've already got a line there. Once was a man from name. Oh. Studying the form. Okay. Mature. Damn it. That's the only rhyme. I meant to sit in. So. Yeah. So you guys interview creative people about how they put their thing to get out their process because what I'm interested in is not the sort of, you know, moments of inspiration because like who can control that. But I feel like there is, you know, they're like practical things that people do that that that bring you to the creative, you know, like being being organized, and how do you practice, and what what initially influenced you, what would you imitate? And how did those things that you imitated how that end up merging into what you do. Now. I feel like you your relationship with Ted in part is a is grows from process that like the two of you were like, hey, we should try writing songs together. Yeah. And see if that's anything. Yeah. Yeah. And then was really interesting because it was we both had to write in tow. An. Different kind of way, you know, it is really interesting to collaborate with somebody that you're you know, when you're used to just doing it on your own have to tell me, Jordan. I mean Jordan's been working within the coal buyer. Maze. Ing. Yeah. Amazing show coming out recalled the both. And I think people really like it. Here's the thing. Seventy Jordan somebody the other day. Yes. I did. Because it's a max von drive. I did a livestream on Facebook. And somebody asked me, hey, do advertisers ever not advertise on Jordan Jesse go because they don't get it. And the answer to that question is mostly advertisers. Don't advertise Jordan Jesse go because we don't have enough listeners. But yes, the answer to that is. Yes. But there's also a second answer to that. And I was glad they asked that question, which is when you are making media that is primarily supported by advertising. Your job is to create an environment that is conducive to sales. And that is at the end of the day. Bottom line. No matter how far. Are you are separated from the advertising sales team or whatever how many firewalls? There are your goal is. And always will be to do stuff that puts people in the mood to be receptive to advertising and that for that advertising to convert them to buy something. And I think that's fine. And it works great for some things of for a show like Amy show or for a show like our show. I'm very grateful that we have a different model like when we have advertisers on the show, and we've had some really great advertisers on the show. I'm always grateful for that. But we know that we are not relying on them. We ultimately our end consumer is the end consumer the audience is who pays for this show? And that's why I'm very grateful that we can do shows like we do because of people who become members of maximum fun. Yeah. Totally am. I mean. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of reasons people do podcasts. These days, you know, they're, you know, it's it's kind of a it's kind of a hot medium, you know, it can be turned into TV and books and things like that. Which which is very cool. If that happens to a show that will never happen to this show. Yes. So basically the only old format overseas. Yeah. There's Jordan Jesse go. But everything has an loud over it. Yeah. Scandinavia? I don't know if that's where much or from probably not. It's like your dirty beat the beauty power but plug. Yeah. That's that's our show in Scandinavia. But yeah. Because this this show has gone on for as long as it does because people support it because people go to maximum fun dot org slash donate. It's yeah. It's it's the reason we do this like we, you know, show up and do the show it is not helping our careers. It is actively hurting actively her. But enough people go to that website. And, you know, throw us a couple of bucks every month because they like the show and they want him to keep coming and. Yeah. And because of them it's kept coming for twelve years now. Yeah. And it kept it keeps it coming us making come jokes. You like that? Yeah. So so, yeah, it's it's really really awesome. And I think, you know, I I certainly know what it is like when a beloved podcast decides, we're not going to do this anymore. It happens a lot. If you want to you know, if you listen to shows on maximum fund, and you want them to not go away. A good start is to go to maximum fun dot org slash donate. So because you know, despite how things go with ads or other career stuff or whatever we can keep doing this show because enough people go to that website. It's maximum fun dot org slash join at our goal is twenty five thousand new and upgrading max fund members. We've got. A bunch of new shows right now. And we've got a bunch of shows out there killing it with bringing bringing those new folks if you've been Jordan Jesse go listener for a long time, or even if you've been a listener for a short time, and their show already means a lot to you. Go to maximum fun dot org slash donate. And you can join now. We're on our will on our way, Jordan. Yeah. And we're going to going to in a little bit later in the show. We want to tell you about some of the cool stuff, you can get so for some reason appealing to your sense of decency. Doesn't work we can appeal to your sense of gimme. We got it. We got stuff for you. It's really really cool. And we'll talk a little bit more about that later in the show. We'll be back in just a second hundred and ESI go. It's Jordan Jesse go. I'm Jesse thorn, America's radio sweet Jordan Morris boy detective. Naming. The nickname us. I think the nickname forgot I was here. Yeah. So much. Forget you're here. You just black. I'll I'll just a just a quick update. We stopped down our first segment because Amy hot and take off her sweater. Yeah. It's very fun poodles poodle Cois headed so this wetter because it's a poodle with like, human hair and eyes. And it's way weirdly disturbing. Yeah. Kind of it. It definitely is delightful and upsetting at the same time. If you were watching the livestream. You could see but sorry, it's why you got to them holding it up to computer. Yeah. It is. Yes, it has an uncanny valley type appeal, but also repulsion. Yeah. Those are humanize, and it's got kind of a mullet, but and with soft the sweater underneath a sweater owl t shirts, so many animal layers. It's probably a pun says never sleep on it. That's not a pun. Does. It say I'll be seeing you. That's just I'm telling you that's to to make it three Jordan that could be that could be your new nickname, Amy to puns, man. Jordan. I don't know. I don't know if you notice this. It's very hot in here. That's why Amy took off that sweater. I don't know if you noticed, but I've kept my second layer on. Yes. Wearing a blue banded collared shirt. And then over it. I'm wearing what Amy when she arrived described as syrupy. Yeah. But because I've never heard the term that you used. What did I use? I call it a poncho drug a drug rutta drug. I don't think you will. You're wearing a drug. Okay. Like, it's made of linen. I feel like it needs to be a heavier. We act kind of I mean at seventy had some qualities. But I think the thing the thing we're specifically talking about with drugs is a it is the shape of a hoodie. Okay. But it has that blanket quality. I think it's called a Bah. I think the official the name is a Baja fresh. Yeah. So I wore this today is for your benefit Amy and for the benefit of our of our listeners who aren't who don't pay attention while the show is on. This actually mostly white noise to put babies to sleep. While from crown. This is good. Audience. I like it just a Sally just said her first word. It was throw. I do not teach your kids to talk with this. We have had a l-. We've we've kind of initiated a series of challenges here on Jordan. Jessica. It started with what was the first thing ending jeopardy. Contestants was jeopardy contestants. We learned that. We had a stunning volume of jeopardy contestants on the program. Then we asked whether there were more jeopardy contestants or people who owned real fezzes. No costume store. Bullshit. It turns out that one of the doctor who's wears a fess. So phase one walking away. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely bitten. Yeah. I have really. Where'd you get your feds probably some thrift store somewhere? See she. But my husband is a cool gen-x it. So that's what I was saying cool gen Xers and actual north African people were the two categories that I hear what you're saying. Your husband. My husband collects knights Templar stuff. So he has has with like knights Templar insignia and plumes where like like the Tri corner or whatever like assure holy excitement. Try co-ord-. Yeah. Where did that hobby start? You know, I think there's a certain point in your thirties where you just collect like you land on a thing and finished. And then you collect some other things he like if you know him it's makes a lot of sense, he quits masonic stuff, and I think he's like out of his collecting phase. And now we're just like desperately trying to get rid of the. Backlog of junk, we does it does it invade this the knights Templar stuff invade the house where we did it just bunch of construction on the house, so everything packed away. And so I'm I'm not going to mention those hats and hopefully. In a box child rearing. So at this point anyway fezzes back defenses, you have one do you wear it out? No, it's nowhere. It's not aware. It's not a weird type of thing wouldn't wear that you wouldn't wear that to show. Get up there on stage. Looking looking sharp display only it would be a skew? You know looks good in a fezzet alone. Along gates the head in a way that is not flattering drawn angle. So Ryan sunny D Brian Fernandez. Our producer has his has his microphone over there. Brian what is this week's competition because fezzes so thoroughly destroyed drug runs which were the the next one of these. So this week we're talking bowling shoes. People who've learned bowling shoes outside of a bowling alley. And I I want to say that the the drug people apropos of their style really came in strong in the second. They forgot to call people were like, I finally got my shit together and called all man, I space. Yeah. Honestly, there were a couple of those. Okay. So we got twelve drugs this week, which is one third of what we got last. Okay. Doesn't doesn't bring it up defense level a little higher than we thought little higher? Okay. And beat fezzes on the fed sick second week of fezzes trying to beat fezzes. Now, we are trying to beat. Right. As of right now with we did get a couple more fezzes this week. So Amy is actually are one hundred fifty. Congratulate me this is huge for Dr. So this week was bowling shoes. And bowling shoes brought the heat. Okay. Almost all stolen. Okay. And a couple bought from like a rummage sale at a church. Okay. Sixty seven bowling shoe people. Show very strong. I thought it was going to be phys week was eighty five. So it was it was it was close. I came very close to buying bowling shoes. During the peak of bowling shoes, which I would put it. What would you say ninety seven that sounds about right? There was an eighties bowling shoe run to the thirty six around. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you gotta figure like the sparks wore bowling shoes at some point share. Yeah. And then. Yeah. Like, maybe at some point Logan, Paul will start wearing them. And then a new generation of kids. It's a shoe you think you look at it. And you're like, it's kinda style, and it's sort of already, but like none and a typical way. And then you put it on your like either goes with nothing. A lot of people talked about wearing the scarf shows. Like, it would be a good skanky. You have a big skanky audience. I think so. Yeah, I think I think probably a big part of our audience was probably involved in some way in the third wave. Scott revival. Maybe even the second wave Scott revive over talking about say people would you say somebody from madness listening to this show right now? I would hope so fingers crossed. Yeah. Come on a special shirt. Are you actually ended? My second wife Scott now, are you Dave Wakeling our talking now, we're aiming have you ever had only shoes? I think I'm sure I did. But because I do recall that that like I liked them. And then I could never make them work with any kind like, they don't really go with just jeans, and it just it was very it's a hard sell. It was something I did in high school in my I'm going to be a high school goof-ball period. Yes. And I definitely I also had like the thrift store bowl. Alling shirt with like somebody else's name. And I carry my books in a bowling bag while so I re- bowling for like, that's was your thing. Like a couple months. Yeah. That is very funny. I'm going to pitch you guys something. Okay. Here we go. And I want I don't be afraid to be harsh because I need constructive feedback. This okay. But my first thought is I wanna get away from clothing items. And I have so many naturalists listening. Yeah. People don't even wear clothes. I am thinking and this is a first traffic. So don't don't tear me apart. But I do need your Frank opinion. How many people have been in a submarine being in a submarine worse zero. Yeah. Well, Jameh Hamrin listened. So well, let's people own a summary. I mean, unless you're talking about the Disneyland submarine, and what about like a submarine in like, San Diego, or whatever no-one that you go on a tour of San Diego submarine. I've definitely been on a tour of a submarine really in San Diego was might have been in San Diego might have been somewhere else. But I've definitely been on a submarine. A why what about a submarine what you have been sand with have you been inside a giant saying, maybe four sexual reasons? Sandwich. Fetish? What about aboard a naval vessel? That's probably pretty good. That's probably why did you go on a submarine though to going to her? Let's just labor when we did a show on a battleship. Yeah. There submarines like that. You got to go on a submarine. And what was I doing? I don't know. We weren't married at the time. We were out of. Oh, man. Fucking all kinds of other people probably often the co by or somewhere. Yeah. That's true. Couple of people in the chatter confirming they've been on a sub really that's already more than I would have thought. So it's like, you know, when you go to Hawaii, I know you could take a helicopter up. Yeah. This is that but underwater so just a guy owns a summer drive you around. No, you don't get to go around in it. It's like it's whore of docked old submarine submarine from World War Two I, but that limits you to people who live in port towns, right? Kotal by Texas real coastal by. I just feel like the submarine is a very if you're trying to get your numbers up. We are trying to be I think it's a good trying to beat bullying and fezzes. Does anything come to mind immediately? Amy. Do you have something that's rare? But maybe not so rare. It's you're looking for real sweet spot. We are looking for a sweet spot because you, you know, I mean, there's all sorts of ways you could beat Fez's. But that's true. Yeah. I mean, how many people have listened to dumb fucking podcast. Destroy with that would destroy. Let's see how many okay, how many people have been in a cover band. You think that's going to be more than they've been in the summer? Yes. Yeah. But we're talking about a cover band is John a show where they got paid. I don't know. Maybe. Start getting paid and beer. I'm talking about free drinks drinks, calf Friedrich. Yeah. They have you know, you played the fit your family reunion, just talking about that counts. If you play a family event. I'm yeah. Band that has played in front of people. Yeah. Like, a wedding counts. Leading counts house party doesn't count unless you get paid though. Oh, that's what have you in the movie people have been in bands. You get many. Okay. So either you got paid to do the house party. Or if it's in a club, free drinks counts. But free drinks at a house party does not count all drinks at a house party or basically a rehearsal with your dumb friends. Okay. But if you got paid a house party is a house concert. I accept your strictures. Yeah. I okay. I think even with that even with that week because I think we have a lot of musicians. Yeah. I think we have a lot of creative people right creatives. We call them. Creatives who make contact? Hey, love con. Love critic did just wrote a musical about Pringles. Really cool. That's gonna do it live on Facebook since really good shit. I would watch that contact from it. Pretty good content. Do we do what we wanna go over your with your? I like this. I've Jordan because I feel like I'm ready to be like to play his show. Yeah. To play an instrument. Well, enough that you're playing in a band, you're rehearsing entire set of material. That's not that easy. Taking on both of you. This is a tripartite fight. Okay. This is the three way a threat if you will I will not thank you continue. You'll never recapture. Are you upping the I've got I've got I've got have been in a submarine. Wait. What what I've got have been in a submarine. You you I don't understand. What are you guys have banned? He played a gig in a submarine. I think is what he's saying. Oh, cool band. On the sex in there. Got. The click track was weird. It was more of a ping ping track. Oh, that's the sonar. Probably the Sono. Are we doing are we doing some marine and cover band? We're seeing what wins next week. We're going to head. We're gonna win win man and more remember cover band. You have to have been paid. Okay. Okay. I I've tickets Countess payment. But only if you would otherwise pay for the drinks, you're you have to play in a public place, or if it's for friends and family, you have to have gotten paid. So like talent shows the rules for friends and family, you have to have gotten paid. What about like a battle of the bands type situation you have to have one. So that you got one. All right won or placed. Okay. You know, you have to have earned money from the show if you lost, and you've got went home and nothing, but you're still in a band, even if you. Yeah. Viewing. I'm saying it doesn't count call summary saying it has to go somewhere. Fine. Mine is how many people have been in a fucking boat. You you were constricting art to that. Which gets hey. Yeah. Well, you're constricting submarines to that. Which is not at Disneyland. Yes. That's right. It's true question about what he brought up that. There's a submarine enemies in Chicago that does it's not in the water count sit to that have -solutely one hundred percent counts. But dry up the ones. So so his sex act. So once landed up just a dry sub the ones that Disneyland don't count. Okay. I'm a dry sub looking for a wet Dom. And there's probably it. There's probably wanna DisneyWorld. Yeah. It to count. If it's a theme park. It can't be on like they can't be on like a track Jesse an actual meals had to be in use at some point. There's some sort of military or exploratory mission. Yeah. That's been on a mission. Let's say that. Yeah. And this is only only cover bands, not regular bands. Of course, not regular Bank. All right, you're doing and I'm not talking about a mix of originals and company originals just ruled in cover band cummerbunds originals. They play the hits of the eighties. Disag- you throw in a couple of originals primarily be known for your cover maximum to originally if you are my very first of the gimme gimme outs. You must provide your list. Yeah. Right. The set class rules set list must be provided. I think we're gonna have a great horse race here. I think this is going to be very exciting JJ, go at maximum fund dot org. We've already confused everybody on the cover band rules. The rules are simple. You have to have gotten paid either through drinks that would otherwise cost money or happy money or. Yes. No. We're joy to creative. Fulfillment. Camaraderie, away filled yourself. I have something I'd like to address with our friend, Amy, man. Yes. Oh boy. Amy came on the judge, John Hodgman, podcast and. Sister show here at maximum dot org and declared that the worst song of all time we go come on. I lean it's pretty bad by Dexia midnight runners, which is a fucking awesome song like too. Bull. Now, I happen to go rampant. He do that. No, you're making your cat. I don't know. I don't know. What that Ted Leo? Just this last week at a midnight runners band stewed over this Jordan, I feel betrayed. No. Because he probably improved it. And he looks good in overalls. Overall, I stood over it for six weeks from when we recorded to win the episode was released when the episode was released in combination of venting and self promotion, I mentioned that Amy had denigrated this song one of my favorite songs, and that I had been stewing over it for six weeks, which was true because obviously. While I am a professional culture critic. I I have no claim to authority relative to Aimee Mann, miss subject. And so I felt backed into a corner. Was that was it appropriate for me to take that public? Maybe not. I don't know. You know, it's hard to say, but I had big feelings as they say and I needed to get them out. A lot of people are on your side, someone immediately said there's only one person who can decide this at Ted, Leo. Ted, Leo immediately. Replied, I'm playing in a cover band this weekend? That was pretty great not to Ted could call in and be a point four cover best. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Cover bands, two zero six nine eight four four fund or JJ, go at maximum dot org. People who have been in submarines JJ, go at maximum fun dot org. Two zero six nine eight four four fun. We'll be back in just a second Jordan. Jessica. It's Jordan Jesse go. I'm Jesse thorn, America's radio Sweden. Moore's boy detective, Amy men nickname Lous so far thus far Amy Manns in here. This is our woman who can take off one hip layer. And all it does is highlight her handsome neckerchiefs shift. It's a nice shirt like a scarf. Hey, we talked about the pledge drive. Why you should donate morally? Yeah. Now here talking about the stu- stu-. Yeah. All right, P, director of the stuff this weekend. Check out the stuff. Great movie about yogurt. Check out. This is that the one that had our old co host jeans day dad is in the stuff. Yeah. Anyway. Hey, so for five bucks a month. If you go to maximum fund dot org slash donate. We you can get. And I think we confirm this on the last episode over two hundred hours of bonus content, including a we did all Q and A episode this this year with Sarah Morgan. Yeah. Coot and undefined you can hear the show that we recorded on MacArthur park lake and a paddle bone. And then we said, well, Brian cut that down as much as possible because it's hard to podcast on a pilot blowed. Amy, you guys recorded and episode of of your podcast that is specifically for donors tesla. What about that? It's a with rehabilitator. We also have we did a bonus content. We have a song that Ted. And I wrote and recorded we did it a while back, and we never released it called getting gray. So we just said let's let's toss it in for perk or the fund drive yet serious. Yeah. That is a very good perk. Yeah. Hot dang. Yeah. Let's not talk about any of the recipes. Yeah. I do love those those Manlio collaborations. We're the newbies. So we have to try harder. Yeah. That's true way. Five bucks a month bonus content. Any donor can get that at any time easy to do. But there's also some other some other good stuff. If you wanna give a little bit more at ten dollars a month. You get one of our enamel pins. There's one for every maximum fund program. Ours features destroy the west robot. And of course, our classic catchphrase Gluck Gluck Gluck, which is short for Gluck Gluck that high yellow sure is sorry. Amy. Oh, there's a there's a bubble pen this laser Deng on. Oh, it's so cool. Very cool. Is really cool. Yeah. And and if we hit our donation goal our membership goal of twenty five thousand new and upgrading donors. We will make those pins available to all ten dollar a month and up members for purchase with all. The proceeds going to charity. Hey, that's awesome. Yeah. Over one hundred thousand dollars doing that last year was absolutely incredible. Wow. So let's see four. What are we get for twenty bucks a month? We've got some there for twenty bucks a month ago. Yeah. We have his view t full custom puzzle. Designed by Geoffrey Thais. It features a loan podcast listener gazing out across the view from our office. It is the real view from our office made even more beautiful by Jeffrey, and I have gotten so much feedback specifically about how genuinely gorgeous this picture is. And and, you know, five hundred fifty. That's the perfect family project. Absolutely. For thirty five bucks a month. You get a beautiful glass coffee mug with the max von rocket logo. Plus, of course, the puzzle and the pin and own this content. All these are humulus mean to tell me that if you if you donate at a higher level, you get everything below that level as well. Yeah. For some reason you do. Fifty bucks a month? You get a medal in grave max fun membership card personalized with your name, and they are more levels. If you wanna go hire a lot of really cool stuff over one hundred bucks a month membership in the inner circle where you get a cool piece of pop culture of from a max fun host. I just actually pick something out for the inner circle members. I picked out a movie called soul power, which is a documentary of the concert that went along with the rumble in the jungle in Zaire in the nineteen seventies that features absolutely unbelievable performance from Celje crews and the all stars and totally gorgeous performance from Bill withers and a breathtaking stunning punched in the face of performance from a very moustachioed James Brown within enormous belt buckle on his jumpsuit that says G F O S for godfather of it is a. It is like what's great about. It is it's like right at the end of James brands, like nineteen seventy four something seventy five. It's like right at the end of his relevance. I mean, obviously, he will forever be relevant. But right at the end of his peak. But what's great about that? Is you get to enjoy the fact that he's a little husky and has a giant mustache. But you still get all the hits everything that you wish James round with play. He can play because he recalled like except for living in America. But like all of his songs are in the catalog by then, and it is just like a mind blowing performance. So yeah. Lots of good stuff. If you go to maximum, fun dot org slash donate. A quick word about the bonus content. One of the things you can listen to the Boko the Boko one of the things you can listen to in that donor feed is is a special one time only podcast that John Hodgman. And I recorded last year, it's called shooting the breeze B R E S, and it is uh talking about our time working in the cheese industry. Something we did. Well. Well, we actually both worked in cheese shot cynically, you both monger the past. Yes. Where a couple of former cheeser 's current crackers, coincidentally you also both played for the Green Bay Packers. Yeah. It was a lot of weird parallels with me and Hodgman. Yeah. I was a spokesman for coleco vision. Oh, wow. So we're basically the same guy. No. So kind of you know, that was a big hit of the bonus content. It's the one I hear about the most. And you know, we kind of looked at the outcry, and we're like, well, we said we were do this once, but it was so popular maybe we'll do it. Again. We said if we got twenty five hundred new Jordan, Jesse go subscribers would record another episode of shooting the breeze episode two maybe we would reach out to people who had cheese based last name's John Hodgman did some preliminary work trying to book a certain captain that everybody enjoys maybe she has a cat that was has the same name as one mentioned earlier in the show. And I think a lot of people have been excited about that prospect. And if we can't book, the captain, we will book to kneel we will deal get to kneel adhere to kneel Greer. So we've had a lot of great support this. Dr love hearing from the fans love people upgrading, you know, it's been successful. But as far as that goal of twenty five hundred for the new episode. We ain't even close. Really? Yeah. Not even close. It's sad. Maximum fun dot org slash donate. Live. We got this happen. I need to see your extra cheese material. Please bribe Amy of our extra cheese material. Need additional cheese material from you and Osmin? I well, I mean get out. I mean, like, let's just encourage people to get out there and maximum fun dot org slash donate. And just have a stronger showing this week. I don't know what to say. I mean, we're not going to do it for the heck of it. We need people to to get out there and support this thing she's thing. This might come right down to the wire, you're hosting a live streaming show at maximum dot org on Friday night Friday from four to six PM Pacific along with Helen Hong and dozens of max von owes including myself. And I think we might find out then whether we make that whether we make that goal. I don't know people just got to get out there. I'm excited about the drive. It's been going great. But this particular aspect could use a little work, you, you know, what I just saw our friend Elliot Kaelin, one of the hosts of the plop house, and our friend John Hodgman, host of judge. John Hodgman have made a packing. We hit our goal of twenty five thousand new and upgrading donors. They will make a donors only Minnie's. Series where they watch the seventies miniseries. I Claudius together. Wow. Yeah. That's the dream. That's how you motivate people is absolutely the dream. Yeah. I mean from here where well upstairs downstairs, aiming how many soldiers spy the BBC version. Amy how much of the how many donors are we have to get free to go through all of Mannix. Is rough ride. I will go through all of cannon all all on my own. Okay. Okay. Man watches cannon man on canon. What would it take for you to go through the rough riders cannon? So that would be like stopped role. What else would we would be a top? Big rough rough riders hit. Listen, I will write a song about your cat for. I don't know name name an amount. Chinese is anybody else? Besides the two of us want this cat's. No, I think the list. Listen, if you want this man's put the cats on the table, I want it you want it get out there. So let's say let's let's do this. Let's fly. We'll find a goal for this. And if we hit a certain amount of subscribers, we'll do the cat song. Yeah. I can all come in and do harmonies or gang vocal have a cat sewing by the end of the week. Great done. This is both this is both of our shows collaborating together. So I say let's make this the overall goal. Okay. If we're able to get twenty five thousand new. Upgrading max fun donors. Aimee Mann will write a song about Jordan's cat at record. Absolutely, okay. This is incredible here for thrill. It would be a thrill. This is a momentous occasion. Should we? I Jordan Jesse go. This is I go, and I was calling you and because of the police discussion. Because the Pali discussion, you know, on all your episodes. I thought maybe he had polyps. Know worried for the guy. No, he's probably poly-amorous. Okay. Yeah. Almost all of our listeners. We're pretty sure I've. At this point. Or poly-amorous aspirin. I am not technically in triple year. My boyfriend are probably though, and you total number of people in our public. You'll which is what you call like. The. Everybody who's dating everybody sweetie team. Thirteen. I'm only Christly dating one of them Lavoix prince dating out for I think. But yeah. Always a lot of people to play board games. Pretty cool. There are a lot of shared calendars. That seems to be the main thing. Who counters shared anyway love the show. What's that thing called like a bumble where you send somebody and they Mark their availability? I don't know if you're trying to have a meeting you send it to them, and they Mark their availability. Yeah. Sounds like they all live in one house. No. I don't think. So. I bet everybody hard. But this is boyfriend cohabitate. Yeah. I don't know if everybody in the Polly all lives in some sort of Polly crash pad. I'm glad that they use Google calendars. Because honestly before that I was imagining that thing with the with the Polaroid's in the cork board and the red yarn. Oh, right. Exactly. It was a magic everyone keeping track of it. Amy. How many how many listeners to the art of process? Do you think are poly-amorous God? I I don't know. It's I have not it's hard to speculate on our audience. Do we have an audience center? No Jesse would have to tell us that. Honestly, I haven't heard any other podcasts before really. Yeah. No. You should try them out there. Great for your commute. I don't know. I'm mostly in disturned. Sure. So he got XM Mahboob. Oh, you got us. You got us point thirteen that is a lot a lot a lot of dating. That's like when I think about like when I think about the act of dating, you know, it's not this isn't someone you like go, you know, you. You slip it on the late night. Right. Like this is like, oh, we go. We go to dinner. We, you know, and every other one you got to do something a little bit fun, so many golf, or, you know, oh, there's a there's a, you know skating race downtown outdoor movie sounds like a fulltime job. Yeah. It's a full-time job. A lot of teenage all these datings yet to be naive needs to be passionate about data too much. I think it's too much. What we're talking about a lot of energy. I don't think it's juggling. And I don't even juggle on there. It's all actual juggling. Around with clinic friend with four partners definitely knows how to juggle. He definitely knows how to juggle do juggling fool. Yeah. Boykin juggle. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, get you a man joke. Right. Do you think? Well, do you think? Wow. Do you think this is a clown? Polly huel. Dates in one little car. I don't know. Did he say where he was calling from? Did I hear Washington DC? Okay. Yeah. It was the southern accent's probably the deep south somewhere, maybe in at the deep south or maybe the show is out. That's Washington DC. All right enough of your political commentary there incendiary satirists and like Borowitz the Borowitz report or John steps from the capitol steps. Hey way. I I don't countenance these Greece, painted fools. All right. All right in our nation's enough enough enough scorching he satire these flap. Shooed Yoohoo, flip shoot. Yeah, clown. There's the come out maybe put down the seltzer bottle checkup a legislative fan to write legislation with who. Can I take off my t shirt? We should have brought more layers than to take on. I know if you have an altitude underneath we got one more call. Let's take one more call. Call. A Jordan GST, and I'm guessing aging, I guess, this is a momentous occasion. It was almost moment death. I just lit up my grill to fire up some brats that I had purchased and. Groping. Thank God on fire. White yelled out. Sure the grill out so at the grill and grabbed my dog and fucking rand and we're both alive. The fires thing wish. So but. Anyway. Hard rock in. What is it river, I suppose thinks but unfortunately, five members of his Pollock you'll. The explosion gotta brought in the eye, man. This happened one time when I was grilling with my dad and my dad had too many beans for lines. So okay. All right. All right world's largest source of natural gas. If you know what I do. I do know. Yeah. Do now we know we know. You know, we've been in this room with your dad before your dad have podcast together. Oh, wow. Go buyer drops by sometimes shit, everything. Good everything, you know, he's kind of honor. Scott Netflix show doing great. Yep. Real funny. A lot of energy tons of energy helps 'cause my dad is pretty teen. Favor over that. Now. I love you, dad. He's not listening. Nah doesn't care. Well, if you have something momentous happen to you two zero six nine eight four four fund is the number to call or Email us at JJ, go at maximum fun dot org. Send voice memo to send us a voice meme it, just send us a voice memo. And if you're not already a member of maximum, fun dot org. It's easy. Maximum fun dot org slash donate. Is where you go. And here's the thing. Jordan don't fuck around with this. No, don't please. Don't this is like a propane tank. Yeah. Fucker blow up in your fucking around. That's why you have that. Paulie Q? Yeah. Fuck around there around the cool here. Get up in that you'll get up killed guts. All right. Maximum fun dot org slash donate. Jordan. Jesse go. I'm Jesse thorn. America's radio sweetheart Morris boy detective, man, still nickname 'less. You man. Do you know what I play the piano, I play a little bit. I'm I'm trying to write songs on piano in. It's it's very frustrating. Because I I'm terrible at it. But I'm I'm sitting there hammer hammering away. If there was somebody who knew how to play piano, good enough to to be accompanist. And I would sing a song from the music man for donors allow we're getting donors a lot of cool stuff on this episode two. We know Frewin down yet throwing down would have to have in the studio, you'd have to have a piano. Are you saying if somebody comes to the livestream on Friday with the piano, you'll sing something from the music, man? Wait just like off the fucking dome with no practice while between now. And then. Yeah, you have time if a couple of days if they bring a piano to the livestream. Yeah. I'll do it. Okay. But a key keytar. Oh, yeah. Totally bring a keytar. Now, you have to have a key, please. We could probably do if we're looking to beat fez. We could probably has a keytar. Probably run away. B's those in your cover band, right anyway, I feel like you can't really play this song for the music man on the guitar mean. He's a gifted guitar. Absolutely. Would be weird. It'd be tough to arrange it for good. Tar keytar could be an interesting twist and could be Amy if you could if you got if you had to kill Hugh Jackman to be in one Broadway musical do you have one off the top of your head, assassins. Befitting? How fitting? I like my favorite musicals are cabaret and Chicago like musicals that start with c. And book of Mormon also was very good. Yeah. Bees close to see. It's very close very close. But it's none of them are murder -able. I think because I don't really have that urge to act sure there's a bit of acting and singing onstage. I don't know. I don't have the pipes. I I don't have the projection Jordan Amy gets hired to act even though she doesn't really want to that should be our career goal. You gotta say, yes. To stuff you gotta say, yes. Yeah. The dress see say to the dress being in the for sake show. You gotta say, yes. To that have to say, yes. And when Portland comes Colin anyway, these are the things you gotta say, yes. To one two three. Yes. Oh, I thought we were all going to say, yes. At the same time. Yeah. I was counting the number of things you have to say, yes. That we were all going in unison say yes to life to love to wine food. Look, I am. Look, I am Higham. Amy. Yes. The art of the process is now a maximum fun dot org. It is people should listen to it. They really should. I feel like you could get something out of it. We mentioned the rea- butcher bonus episode. Yes. That was a good one who else who'd who'd he got in the made feed there in the what are the main? Been some of your favorite guests who who who who we already had? Yes. Started my mind suddenly going his it's too hot in here. It's not working shoot is making me forget who's been on this show to my brain has to be chilled like a computer rock Obama valley. You call him berry. Of course, Nelson Mandela ghost. PD pie PD pie. He's good in everything creative process is really revelatory straight, right? Strange one. Yeah. Play Minecraft and have views. You and you intead are two of my favorite, creative people think, and the fact that you guys have a podcast talking about creativity is is a real thrill. I have to look at my list. I literally can't remember my mind has gone blank. Br Brian you can chime in who who have been some people on the show why it cynic Rebecca sugar. Dan Wilson looks like the most recent one no recall the Mariners catcher, Dan Wilson was in a semi sonic. And he also he's one of those guys who writes who is like a co writer like one of those like hit writer guys that, you know, artists are put with with him to write these gigantic hit songs with four courses in a row, and he has a really fantastic. Melody, and I've known him since we were in bands together in Boston like in the eighties. And I just always thought he was so good. And so head of his time. Told many originals did you play in the band. All right. Two or more always played originals. I'm not good enough to cover band. You have to that's like chop chops thing. He's good enough to chop got chop. So you plan to like a already punk band. You just literally do whatever kind of garbage you. And nobody's the wiser. That's why I liked it. Maximum fund dot org to get that podcast. Maximum fun dot org slash donate. Donate to all of the shows. So let's let's go over what what's been thrown down here. Twenty twenty five thousand new members Amy will write about my cat book twenty five hundred new Jordan, Jesse go subscribers Hodgman, and I will talk about cheese on a new episode of shooting the breeze. It's not looking good. But I believe in Jessica people right now, we'll come through. Look we put out a whole extra episode during the max fund drive, and it was a fucking good ones a banger that was fucking dope. Want? Somebody tweeted at me. 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Turning Anxiety Into Agency | Empaticos Veronica Vzquez Ugalde & Adrienne Britten

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Turning Anxiety Into Agency | Empaticos Veronica Vzquez Ugalde & Adrienne Britten

"The presenting sponsor of on Education is participate as longtime proponents of social learning and Cross Cultural Community building. Participate invites you to explore virtual exchange and student leadership as Cutter Foundation International Works to build meaningful connections to the Arab world to become a member of robust community of educators. Visit PARTICIPATE DOT com slash on education on a scale of one to ten. How freaking exhausted are you right now? 'cause I'm like at eleven? Welcome to on education part of the on podcast media network. My name is Mike Washburn and I'm Glen Irvine Friends. We have an awesome pot for you today. We will debate whether Michael Jordan should be considered. A great leader discuss why it is so important to focus on mental health of both our students. Educators and our guests this week are impacted code. Veronica Viscous Ugalde and Adrian. Britain still playing minecraft. Nice Steve Isaacs. I are playing minecraft hardcore on stream on the game. Onstream which is a three p. m. stream on the participate and he almost died today and I almost had a heart attack. He ran into the House with like one heart Latte halfheartedly. I was like dude. Eat ovals he'll bit at. It would have sucked because you know I'm excited about it. I have you sorry. Have you beat minecraft like single player? Have you killed the dragon with people? Yes yes but not on not on hardcore anything. I was playing on Xbox with my son okay. Yes and my father-in-law so there was three of us that that did it. But yes yup single player but not not hardcore but still a regular mode. I guess you go so it does make a difference. I mean as far as how quickly or easily you could potentially die. Um and that was also before they made all the difference Additions where now. There's a bunch of stuff at the end. There's a bunch of different stuffs at at the. Nether you know yeah. So there's there's different items now in different things that you can go exploring and back then. There wasn't the end was a very limited area arena with the window dragon and so so on and so forth but yeah no. We did that. I think I don't know how many years ago it was but yes fun. I'm Jealous I. Yeah Yeah I WANNA beat the game. Pretty bad too. hardcore. That's a different level too because obviously you can't die. You can't Di di Di di Di di you're dead. Yes Yep that sounds like a Yogi ISM that sounds dire so we're streaming it. I would love to beat the game so hopefully we make it happen. Yeah it would be a lot of fun for sure. A lot of fun so chat on Education Live is a thing I think officially. How many have we done now? This would be four three or four. Yeah I think it's been fun. Yeah they're great the great conversations in a different type of format. I liked that other people can join in from the outside and ask questions or comments on things or either provide links to specific things or articles or whatever might be so it makes it like I had said before on previous episodes that it makes it way more interactive. I guess that's the best part an actual conversation conversation between us and also us in our anybody that's listened to the podcast which is fantastic. We try to bring up. I mean we've have had a variety of different topics that we've been discussing so that's had a nice too so it's not just the same topics or conversations we're trying to bring in different perspectives different conversations from our team. So that's fantastic. Yeah totally totally. I WANNA give a shout out This week to our friends John Fallon and Tobias Stabby stabby stabby to buy Fabi Who launched season two of the good game podcast Just today So on the day were recording. Which is Monday And what's really also exciting about that is that I've been working with them through participate To kind of level up the podcast a little bit so they got new music. They got a new logo. And it's officially the podcast of the game based learning community on participate. So you'll you'll be able to Listen to the this great podcasts. From two absolutely fantastic games base learning kind of educators and then Head to the community on participate the game based learning community Which we will link for you in the show notes and and carry on the conversation and have A really good chance to learn from them and learn from each other It's pretty exciting. And it's a it's a decent podcast and those both of those gentlemen are just extremely knowledgeable. That only in game based learning but just an education in general. And so if you want to listen to people who are. I believe right on the cutting edge and a really Well versed in all of the research behind game based learning. This is these are the people so if you're interested in anything that has to do with games and using them in education for sure I would I would tune in. Yeah they take they take pretty deep. Dives on that podcast. I guess like we scratch the surface and sometimes we get into deep dives depending on the guest and and and stuff like that but they they really go into the weeds sometimes Which is you know if you're into gains based learning and you want to learn more. That's the place to do it so for sure. All the power to them so I have a question on a scale of one to ten. How freaking exhausted are you right now? 'cause I'm like at eleven joke man? I'm trying to reenergize myself by doing things that are outside of my screen here And this microphone and and calls and whatever else might be so I I am working on a garden outside. And it's it's labor hard work. No farm together is it now. It's not farming simulator nineteen or started valley razor pretty easy to do a big enough bureau and Garden is a paid in the butts but actually very rewarding and getting me away from this because I think this burning this is definitely was it was an can burn be out as far as just constantly being connected and doing tons of online work is. I think I have heard other people say at the same thing. You know the Zuma burnouts kind of thing I think real I think going and getting away as much as you as you can. I mean obviously people are working their butts off and stuff so you you can only do so much but that's been very helpful for me so in the last probably two weeks. I've felt a million times better by just stepping away middle of days. I'd say I could do that at some later. Point and doing something outside even if it's just walking or playing basketball with my my son's just doing something that's not connected here because otherwise I feel like I am going to have a meltdown and and they will not pretty. There'll be a full all out. Vote Z feel pretty tired. You're on eleven. I'm going to eleven. I I was thinking I was thinking today about it because I was having a good conversation with someone that I work with about needing disconnected. Isn't it's clear like I'm like most days. I get started working at around eight eight thirty and I haven't stopped most days until like nonstop and I'm talking like not even like half an hour breaks. I'm talking like next meeting to the next meaning to close Zoom Open Zoom for the next meeting. Close Zoom Open for the next meeting. I'm going like that and then like lately with reporting on recording like me podcasts. To moment You know it's like zoomed to squad cast zoom to squad cast Zoom Zoom Zoom and. It's like that from like eight in the morning until about five in the evening and then there's usually like two or three evenings where I'm doing something to and it's just it's it's getting a little much. I was thinking about this after this conversation. I had about me personally. I think I need to go away to disconnect like I think I'm going to need to like intervene on myself at some point like I don't cabinet or something go somewhere. I I from Your Cell Phone. Yeah or something. He's got a not be home so I'm going to start thinking about. I'm pretty tied up from now. Until the end of June until the micro podcast in particular is is wrapped up in terms of the recording Which is generally speaking the end of June So I'm thinking like sometime in July. I'm probably going to take a week and I'm just GonNa Lake. I'm only laughing because that seems so far away. What you just said. I'm GONNA go away. That met like this weekend. I'm going to be gone for a while. It's like no July sometime. It's like damn that's a long time from now corrupts by real life. Crops growing digital crops will have been in multiple seasons of making me. Millions of dollars grind it. Oh for a few more weeks here please. It's just so One of the things. I do appreciate about working. Participate is that They were shutting down on Friday. This Friday so whatever day that is the twenty second and also on the twenty fifth so they've basically given everybody a four day weekend go and said you know for our celebration in the United States. Real Daesh I get to which I get the. Today's Victoria Day in Canada. Monday and I had meetings all day like it was not a holiday for me This Canadian worked all day folks But I will get memorial day sort of off but even then like I tried To separate myself from like I blocked off my calendar but before that happened I got well. I mean we're doing. Our interview has shake marketing. We're doing our interview. I mine craft podcast on the weekend of like this coming weekend. And I'm I'm doing the interview with Steve Isaacs on the twenty fifth and I'm doing an interview with Trish Cloud on the twenty fourth so it's like I know like lots like it's just going to. It's really hard for me right now to disconnect completely but I think I need to once. I'm done this this little bit of like this power surge of activity. I've got to actually step away and Or I'm never going to. I just just doing too much and I wanNA keep doing it. And and I'm I'm not practicing really good Stepping away skill so if anyone has any ideas on how you disentangle yourself from your work especially when you're passionate about your work and you like your work and you want to keep working but you know it's not good for you. I could use that sort of advice. Stat so. Yeah Yeah like right away please intervene. Hey tell me about the last day. It's I haven't watched this yet. I have not watched this. I I mean Michael Jordan right. This is about Michael Jordan. Well it's about specifically about all the Bulls and the last year has the last dance that was deemed by Phil Jackson. He's he wrote it on a piece of paper he knew that or on a little. Preseason playbook kind of thing and said tell them well. This is it desire. Yeah he was. He had a one year contract and they said they were not going to resign him Phil Jackson. I'm talking about specifically Michael. Jordan was contemplating retiring Scottie Pippen was They hadn't given him a contract so everybody was basically. It felt it threat at the moment that this was this was going to be so. Why don't we make an amazing ending? What they they've done Mike when you go watch this since you are a person that you were young and spry in the nineties Add so was I. I was in high school through Ed Early College. When the Bulls were dominant. And this is not just a recap of what happened from the first Early Michael Jordan years to you know obviously this last championship but all this footage that we've never seen before it is freaking phenomenal. A whole bunch of footage of all kinds of things that has never been previously released that during the Times they allowed a camera crew especially during this last season to be able to record some things and for whatever reason it was never released until now and then now they do these basically kind of flashbacks to different moments of different things and then they kind of focus some of the episodes on some of the characters. There's one on like Dennis Rodman kind of his journey and whatever happens but it lets you see a side of Michael Jordan that. Oh man and powerful. I mean the guy's not only crazy uber competitiveness which we all knew that that was there but his humanness to about how much he loved his dad and the relationship between him and his father and his father was a killed Just ran in a random shooting and the media made up a story that it was a hit job because of Michael Jordan's gambling debts. And so there's this whole series of things that's kind of happening that we may or may not have remembered as I was. I late teens to early twenties during this time period But not only that. But we don't know the whole story kind of piecing it all together and the coolest part is the there's some discussions on edge twitter that are going on right now talking. About's our good friend that teaches internationally. Dubai what's his name. Jeremy Williams is Yep Jeremy Williams posted a twitter poll the other day. A whether or not Michael Jordan was a great leader and kind of also basically headed. Would you want a one of your administrative leaders? A principle is superintendent so on so forth to have that personality basically was the a great leader and then to kind of a discussion back and forth. It's a great discussion because he is hardcore. I mean to the ultimate edge of hardcore as far as competitiveness in wanting to win. But does that actually make him a great leader you know and so on and so forth so there's a really good discussion do we want? That's is that a healthy thing. You know as far as within the educational realm as far as having this having his personality where it's a it's a personality that says watch me do everything that I can't possible kind of like what you were describing as far as your workload. I'm going to work as hard as possible to be able to achieve this goal and you need to also do the same thing you know. Got To that personality. And if you don't do it that only will I call you out but I will boot you off this team but a lot of his teammates freaking hated him because he was crazy as far as crazy to wed is part crazy competitive to the ultimate edge. I want to win no matter what so. It's it's it's a really really well done ten episodes of it adds. I put right here. There's no sports going on right now. It doesn't matter every talk show has to do with sports as talking about this show. Which is what happened in. The nineties already happened. You know kind of that stuff but really the discussions are happening of like wow. They're so powerful things that occurred. You know kind of the whole thing whether it Michael Jordan was is the greatest player of all time so on and so forth but it really makes them relevance again also humanizes Michael Jordan a humanizes Dennis Rodman who I think is a completely an anomaly. That people either hate or love in this. You can really the really good a good feeling of WHO. This guy actually is ad where he's actually coming from know It's so good it is. I was to anybody. I always thought there was this narrative of Michael Jordan. Being a big jerk. That's the only that's the only narrative I ever remember hearing or reading about especially recently. I don't know if it's come out in response to like I don't know So so What's his name The hardcore his the guy who does hardcore history podcast always says the the the greatest men are always bad men. You know so even like like there's this kind of romanticized version of Alexander. The great for example. He's the one who he brings up all the time. The guy was a like dumpster. Fire like in almost every way he just happened to like win the war so he wrote the history. But like I mean butchering people across Europe. And then like I mean. And he's you talk with the same Genghis Khan who gets like whose edges are completely softened in modern times by you know It was basically genocide. What Genghis Kahn did the Chinese? And the Chinese. Don't forget that sorta stuff they will still comes up all the time When people start talking positively about the Silk Road and all of this other stuff that are result of the Mongolian Empire. They go well. What about the fact that the Guy Slaughtered? You know millions of Chinese right so that that's actually a really good point of overall not the slaughtering of the Chinese but just the overall point of like historically or yes in any general sense. Do the greatest of men have to be bad or slight tinge of evil exempting it about like even our our current president or if we go back just one president ago with Obama actually in American history. And that's Harry Truman. The president who helped lead America through World War Two also ordered a bomb to be dropped on Negga sake in hero Hiroshima. Now I mean killing hundreds of thousands of people like I mean perspective. That's really tough. Decision and a lot of people have the perspective that it was a evil almost decision. But you know that's conflicting but like it's a really good example he and you know if it wasn't for Truman and the fact that he also then after the war basically you know employed people like Marshall the Marshall Plan and stuff like this to rebuild Europe basically after. It was completely devastated. Truman's presidencies helped save Europe after the war. But you know dropping atomic bombs as babs right and it's like you talk about Obama and then you talk about drones and yes that's what I was going to say is that there's some parts that the whole picture. Yeah he's not always as nice and shiny as it's complicated. We wanted to be exactly so it's sometimes every part of the picture is not as nice and shiny agree interesting. The idea of you know most of the great men are were had to be bad men at sometimes you got to. I don't know how more women leaders more women there it is. I agree I agree well and that is the case because I mean we know that that you know there. There's definitely the the women decision makers of the world right now. Are there was an article I just read about? How all the all the countries that are? really doing well. Handling the pandemic are have women as leaders. New Zealand is the one that cited all. The time doesn't surprise me right. It doesn't surprise me either so either political party to by the way I would be. I would be either political party in the United States if we had a woman And it's too bad. We couldn't even make it happen this time again. It's it's quite disgusting that once again. We'll have another presidential election and there will be two white men that will be heading running for the presidency is it's crazy and it doesn't seem like honestly like there's an end to that today into that cycle so it's crazy yeah. Hopefully Biden nominates a good vice president and then has hopes presidency in that sets up that vice president to run for president. You know so. It really matters who the vice presidential nominee is That's for sure Because that person is based it has to be a woman that was getting heat up to run no yeah. He's promised to make good. We'll see. I suspected Stacey Abrams or Elizabeth. Warren seemed like the two. I'm used choices. So we'll see which one or What's the other one Kamala Harris so that was probably the three one two three. I don't know in what order It's funny we talk about mental health almost every episode right now. It seems appropriate We even talk about on chat on education about mental health about student mental health about teacher mental health And and You know another article will put in the show notes just reinforcing. You know the same thing. We've talked about About you know really really having an eye towards Student mental health during the crisis right. Yeah that'd be really stepping up and reaching out to our students making sure that we really do give them an opportunity to the lettuce know as educators as as you know counselors and social workers and so on and so forth to be able to to help them in in whatever ways we actually can And I think a A. There's a huge push for this and I think administrators and educators counselors social workers. Are All doing a fantastic job doing this exactly at so much. Not only just talk about it but there's a lot of action going on with it the part that is interesting though to Mike. And that's the parts that really freaks me out is what you're describing at your work. I believe is also happening to a lot of teachers. They're passionate about their work and they love what they're doing but there's a very. It's very difficult to distinguish between what happens at school and doing the teaching job and what's happening at home and there's it's it were an unprecedented times in general but that is a weird thing. Most people have never had even at the time to be able to think through how my going to distinguish between these two worlds. And we've been talking about these kinds of things that I'm worried about. Educators especially if this fall we start the year for the most part in a virtual environment in some parts of the United States. There's still going to be educators out. There are going to be doing what we're talking about. Which is spending an excessive amount of time working. You know because they already did it before but at least there was an opportunity to be able to kind of like you drove home as you used to drive home when when you were teaching yet a chance to kind of like decompress. Listen to our podcast get home and then there was dinner and you could actually step away and then maybe do some you know some more grading or whatever else kind of final things but then you could put it off to the side and then the next day. You're still at home. You get to do that. And you get the drive to work and it kind of really puts that separation. Even on the weekends I feel like the weekends are blurring into weekdays. So many times in here as far as all these conversations in same what you're describing is a thing that's happening out there and so I think it's going to have a if it's already not having a huge effect on our teachers wellbeing and their mental health. So we really do need to go ahead and and maybe bring on Mandy again and really have this conversation about. How do we start this next year? Let's say Mandy Fair like to have a conversation how we start next year and make sure that we set ourselves up for success for our mental health. Our mental wellbeing. So that was a plug for Mandy above talking to Mandy. We'll just talk mandy anytime and you know. So you're talking about schools may be starting in September Remotely or blend in a blended environment but there are schools that are opening like test is always something going on in Texas. I tell you I was bored there. Yeah it's like its own country wait. It was its own country Mike Real quick. When I was in middle school I was at El Paso. Texas and Middle School Probably seventh grade. I don't know if they still do it this way. As far as the sequence in order but you took Texas history right like there was a history of Texas that I learned at. I swear to you by God. I don't think it was just my mind. Cut a blurred. This I swear to God. That book was super freaking thick because they history of Texas is like a history of. It's a country because of so many different things so many different powers that be that wanted to go ahead and control the air that did control the area so many different clashes of different things. It's interesting that it's very conservative now. I think it's really interesting being that. It's a huge Mexican American population. That live there that it used to be part of Mexico. That's it's a huge economy and very integral as far as the relationship between the United States and Mexico the relationship between Texas and Mexico super important. So it's interesting that in general that it's now one of the places where they're like we're open it up. We're foraging over. Maybe it's not maybe that's like a Texas type of thing where you're like. Were doing this. And it's to we're going to be out to be successful with but they're gonNA open the summer summer classes and I think we were GonNa have somebody that was going to do it. We might as well have someone do it at a large scale maybe learn a lot of different things about what works and what doesn't work and in. May Be shared with the rest of us. I'm just sad that a bunch of summer school kids are going to be you know potentially vulnerable to getting this virus so it should be very interesting. I'M NOT SURPRISED. They are implementing Social distancing measures and doing some different things and I think we can all learn some stuff from him but is maybe not the best way to experiment. You doing running experiment with kids. Yeah totally so I mean God help them. We'll we'll see that's all they guys that's all I could taxes Texas. We got lots of taxes listeners. And I love you all we out high state though. So there's a lot of diversity also text. There's a lot of people that are that one hundred percent agree with so it's not just everybody's not crazy right. Not everyone crazy. Just the people making the decisions I suppose. Hey so listen you go a restaurant and the meals not super good and you can you know you can cause a stink and get your money back. Yeah and you go to a dry cleaning place in you. You'll bring your shirt in. It's got stain on it. And they you know they say oh we can get it out for twenty bucks and they don't get it out and you know you get your money back speaking and that happens in a lot of places if something doesn't meet your expectations you get your money back or or at least get a discount and this is what students are doing with their school with their university. Listen they said this your sucked learn anything and it didn't meet my expectations and I paid a lot of money to come here and I didn't pay a lot of money to come here and then sit at home and watch zoom. I paid a lot of money to listen to or or meet with a professor at genius. Someone who is usually an ex very you know strong at their at their field. You know I didn't pay for Zoom so you know they want their money back yes but like. I don't know if we have the time to like this is complicated. I don't know we have to kind of dig into it. But would you you know. My general feeling is yeah. I empathize with the students. I I understand what's what they're talking about because number one it's very expensive to go to a university And this isn't what they signed up for and universities in the United States. Did actually they canceled classes really early in this process? Remember that Especially in comparison with public schools. They cancelled very very early. And they sent their students homes for for the most part and so wanting a refund for their tuition minute. I can empathize with you though you can still have the opportunity and you still did obviously to to earn your college credits to be able to go ahead and pursue your degree and complete your degrees and so on and so forth. It's an unprecedented time. So it's a time where I don't feel like that's should be where they should be at in so I can do. I can empathize with them. It's like really this is where we're headed. They W- they did. It's the colleges. Did it to to make sure that you were going to be okay and safe. And they continue to go and make decisions based on that This isn't this wasn't ideal. We didn't want it to actually happen. People did the best that they possibly. Could you know like our our good Fred? Connor crop who is a university student at and he's a a I believe is a junior senior already but know he's a junior and he said he hated it and that he takes communication classes and this is not. This can't be what they did at school at the university can be emulated or simulated on a in an online environment. At least not in this kind of quick turnaround so I could. I could definitely see that. And I think it's a good discussion and maybe we should bring on some college university experts. You know Dave Blanchard works at a university We know some other university people and maybe even some college students. That'd be cool to have both of them on their kind of discussion about you know. Should they get their money back? Discussion or hunger games both except it's virtual hugger game so it's not as hardcore. Certainly the stakes would be a lot lower. That's good yes when we come back we're going to spend some time talking about empathy and about what one company and Patio is doing to help. Educators during this time teach empathy and Reflected in their practice go. Guardian Helps Thousands of K twelve school. District's maximise the learning potential of eight million students go guardians products enable productive and safe digital learning by helping educators identify learning patterns protect students from harmful and distracting content and support mental health to sports schools during their distance. Learning transition. Go Guardian is offering free access to their entire product suite until the end of the school year to learn more go guardian and download their free resources about distance. Learning visit their distance learning resource center at go guardian dot com slash distance learning. Welcome back to the PODCAST. Impactful connects educators helping them to share perspectives and ideas of other students from around the world with their students. Joining us on the podcast today. Are Putt ta-chou's Veronica Bascus Guy and teacher Adrian? Britain welcome to on education. Thanks so much for having us so Veronica. I can imagine their number of our listeners. Who aren't aware of impact. Toco what you do and how you do it before we get started. I think we should start with the basics. Tell us a bit more about impact. Go thanks Glenn. Of course on so and product is and was originally conceived as this video conferencing tool that allows teachers to connect their classroom to other classrooms around the world with the support of research based activities that were specifically designed to foster curiosity meaningful connections and empathy among students. Who are six to eleven years old These activities that referring to are basically like lesson plans that really focus on four things allowing children to recognize similarities with each other share personal stories. Of course you know if we think about friendships really sharing those personal stories. That's what really sparks connection appreciating differences and practicing perspective taking empathy skills with one another. Now I say we. It was originally. Consisted this because meatless to say that this whole cop cova thing has really thrown a wrench in and cut costs us to rethink what the classroom is. I don't think when twenty twenty started any of us thought the classroom as we thought about it for years would cease to exist for months. Or who knows how long so we've recently started to rethink potty. Go as at home and bringing home to home connections into the mix which really put caregivers as the facilitators up exchanges and instead of it being classroom to classroom it now becomes a more intimate experience. Where kids can connect with other families and it could be one one or two to one But it's much more intimate and facilitated by the parent or caregiver so empathy along with social emotional learning. It seems to be the topic that educators administrators that. We're all talking about really honing in on these days. Not that it has always been important but really now as you just described as far as covid were really a diving deep into it so Veronica. How about what exactly are we talking about when we talk about empathy? Yeah that's that's a really good question. I feel like when we think about empathy. We all have this kind of grade. Definition in our head and it's good to put some concrete definitions behind it and what research has been showing lately is that empathy is not just this one single skill it's more like a three dimensional skill. The first part of that is emotional empathy That's I like to think of the emotional contagion when we're talking and you feel start. I might feel some about sadness when you're super excited. I feel that excitement joy with you. you kind of catch each other's feelings. That's the emotional piece. The second part is the cognitive empathy pieces the mental process of taking somebody else's perspective. I think lot of US use the phrase putting ourselves in somebody else's shoes but I like to challenge that idea little bit and it's not just stepping into somebody else's shoes book really trying to understand the person as a whole what makes that person see the world as that. What factors influence the way? They think the way they feel on. So it's more wholesome perspective on an individual and trying to understand them and then the last part of empathy kind of combines emotional in cognitive empathy together and puts it into action. It's behavioral empathy. So it's really taking that understanding and the feelings that we've gathered from our conversations or interactions with the other person and using that to one form away that we can help that person in a way that benefits them. I recently read an article in the Greater Good Science Center. Which if you haven't visited highly recommend in one of the empathy experts. They were interviewing mentioned that we often say do unto others as you wish others do but these kind of challenging that you don't want to do was you would like to review. It's really all about the other person's like what are their tastes water their needs. What are their experiences? So it's really taking you out of that equation so Adrian. Educators are bombarded with learning goals and targets and standardized tests and in Ontario. So your urine -Tario educator You know collective bargaining was like dominating. Teachers lives for the better part of the last school year and now pandemic teaching. I mean twenty twenty. It's been pretty awesome. So why in the midst of all this teaching all you know teaching core competencies talking about math and language science. Why is it important to develop or have students develop empathy? Well I think it's super important. That students develop simply because it it allows them to create a strong sense of security within their community. So I think that's one really important thing and it promotes a really strong relationship with other students and other educators and that just that itself positions them really well just for learning without that in itself. Learning can't really occur so I also think empathy really encourages tolerance and acceptance of other people and it promotes good mental health and wellbeing. So I think it's really like everything that their experience in the world right now really thrives on their understanding of empathy and and and how they're going to use that to help other people right now and I mean we live in You and I both live in southern Ontario. Which is like an incredibly diverse part of the world one of the most diverse parts of the world That there is in fact and so I would think that embassy would be big in your classroom teaching in Toronto and and really in Southern Ontario. For the idea that you know You you have all of these students and different perspectives and religions and points of view and upbringings. You KINDA got a little bit of everything in the in the Toronto area. Don't yeah yeah absolutely. And if you're talking about right now a major thing that's happening like we're talking always talking about systemic biases and oppressions and systemic oppression. Stuff and less you look at that from really like an empathetic lands like none of those big topic issues are really going to get resolved. You know unless you have that fanning of empathy so sure absolutely and so. What are the results? Because that's the other thing that even administrators are GonNa to be looking for your principles GonNa WanNa know. Well if you're not spending time teaching math please let us know how it's actually like. Like what is coming out of this. You know we can point to test scores and grades in report cards For for kind of these core courses but what are you gaining here? When you're focusing on empathy as part of your teaching so the project that we did last year within Paddock oh was based on the global goals and The kids would through certain lessons that we would provide the kids. We the kids would develop An action plan to address the needs of the global goals and so we use design thinking process with the kids and like I said. Empathy is at the core of that process and the kids ended up coming up with Projects that like that will address the needs of climate change or that would address the needs of zero poverty or zero hunger and so their understanding of the world grew through this program and grew through their understanding of other people's perspectives because impact allowed me to connect with other teachers around the world. So I ended up doing this project with two classrooms in the United States and one classroom in the UK and so having the kids do this program with other kids and then to get their perspectives on. Their ideas was very important. So that was really really good experience for the kids. Veronica read at the beginning. This pandemic At least on social media and felt like just teachers in general and schools really were making a huge effort to make sure that we met the needs of our kids as far as make sure that they were well fed. You know like a school lunches and making sure that we deliver things and and making adjustments to those types of things and then I think there was a switch where we realized. Hey there's a lot of things going on in people's homes and job losses and all kinds of other issues that we sometimes frankly aren't exactly aware of what's happening at home and now the students are at home all the time and so we knew that there was a need to provide at least something as far as social emotional. Learning is concerned so at a time like this. How important is empathy As far as I could see it now especially being discussed the lots as far as on. It's an edgy twitter. And and those circles but maybe not as far as all school districts as far as putting it a priority on it especially during these times. Yeah that's a great point and I agree. I think empathy now is more important than ever. I see it as kind of the screw that really in times a physical distance keeps US genuinely and deeply connected and understanding the needs of one another whether that be you know from the teacher perspective toward parents or from students to teachers sometimes as well In so many directions. It's so important to really understand that we're all going through a lot. We all have stuff that we might not know of each other. You know. Sometimes we don't know if a parent lost their job or if a teacher is having a really bad day because they're managing thirty students in one classroom room all doing remote. Learning so empathy is just really important to kind of keep us grounded in. You know we're all going through the shared experience but the result of that shared experiences are different for each one of us and that's empathy helps us understand that This is also really you know. Unique moment I think especially for younger generations. It's really astonishing that we all have this really similar and shared experience across the globe. And you know one of the things we try to do it in potty go is that you know what? I mentioned in the activity recognizing similarities like a starting point of building relationships and this is a huge historical shared experience that we are all experiencing and again. I think it's so important to even talk to kids like even if this is what we're experiencing at home it might be very different in another home in another community in another country and so on and so on so we can start conversations about really understanding others and in line with that. I think at least from my perspective. I've heard a lot of talk and desire to help others during this time. You know we all we all like. What can I do for my community? What can I do for my neighbor on? And despite the best intentions always being there empathy is really the key to making sure. That help is what it needs to be in terms of what those were aiming to help need a not what we think they need so I see. Empathy is really critical now more than ever. Because we don't want to be offering help. That's not really useful for some people. I can give a really superficial example but I think illustrates it really well for my job. I am in meetings four to five hours a day on soon all the time and I've had rough weeks I've had good weeks but I'm exhausted. Drained from Zoom And I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that and I have family that wants to connect and wants to show support and like be connected there like let's jump on facetime over the weekend Let's one lakes hang out with happy hour over facetime but I personally I am drain on. Take it on. So that's one really simple example of like it's the best intentions but I personally. That's not what I need to kind of feel better and reenergize so I think we can see that a lot happening nowadays. It's funny we've talked on the park. S A lot about how unique every person's experience is in this. It's it's never like even though we are in a shared experience of pandemic learning and working from home everyone's specific situations completely different. I saw a quote on on twitter. It actually it said. We're not all in the same boat but we are on the ocean. Something like that. Really it really. I really related to it so I just I actually want to add to this too because right now I was really thankful that Impact Co has has introduced me to some other people like. I said I'm with the class in the United States right now and because we started using design thinking to address one of these issues of the global goals we've kind of actually switched our. We've pivoted our focus right now and just like we were talking about all of the kids. I wanted to change They're sort of anxiety into agency. And so we've changed the focus from the global goals and addressing one of those needs while still addressing global goals needs which is good health and wellbeing but now all the kids want to focus on doing a business that will help other kids deal with anxieties of covid nineteen and so. I have three different teams. Going on in one of the teams is doing videos to help their called co video. That's their team name. And they're doing videos. That will help little grade ones. In kindergarten kids understand disability of covid without actually scaring them. They wanted to do puppet shows and stop motion animation and. I have another group who wants to do sketching videos for kids of all ages and levels and then I have the third group who wants to do videos for grades four and five to keep them aboard and buster kind of videos and they're gonNA be on all different topics but this again comes from a place of empathy and then them wanting to do something because they're really like powerless right now if they think about it right. They're stuck at home. Their with their parents can't go out so they feel powerless. So this gives them a sense of of Agency and and they can do some changing some good in the world so Adrian we we know. Our students can tell the difference between educators with empathy. That are working from a lens and viewing this through an empathetic kind of viewpoint viewpoint. And those that aren't You know and we've seen it on twitter and we've seen it everywhere else where there's the teachers that are like. You need a hand in your assignments on time. And they're no no eating during zoom in like just like crazy stuff like that have that are clearly showing absolutely no understanding for this idea that kids perspectives are unique. And every everyone's home life is completely different and and the teachers like just get it they can get it and probably also because they're going through it too and I mean Glenn and I are both Cla. Both classroom teachers. It makes a huge difference to your kids to be in when you're in a crisis like this for them to see the your teaching with empathy right absolutely and I think it's important to model empathy all the time right. The only way that they're going to understand it as if you model I think we also free get a lot of times or social beings in for learning to occur like our relationships need to be at their best and teachers being there for students right now might be the best way for them to learn and they are getting something runako. I was wondering what exactly is impractical doing during this time to make teachers ideas more accessible to educators or you guys ideas to make it more accessible to educators who can use guidance on teaching and learning about empathy specifically. Yeah Yeah we have a couple of things going on. So as I mentioned as a response to go. We launched this broader like go home umbrella and within that we have home home-to-home connections which in of itself have caregiver resources and tips and guides to guy to having those interactions homes. Which I think it's very useful. Because they're very practical tips for bringing empathy to life in those interactions. Of course those are available to caregivers and teachers etc another thing of around and potty go home is what we call empathy hours. These are like virtual meet ups. That happened every two three weeks more or less and the ideas that we wanNA create a community of educators and caregivers not worthy new educators to come together and have a space to talk with each other share resources to how they feel share their challenges their tips and each session. We have different topics as they relate to Kobe. So the first session we had was around wellbeing so we talk more. Broadly about adult will be in kind of touching on what Adrienne said you know. We have to model things for for children and students. When they see us doing it they'll be more enticed to do themselves then. We had another session around. How can we empower local communities ourselves and then build up to having global communities to share knowledge share support and then the last one that we had this? I lose track of time last week. was around home connections and we had a three caregivers were also in product. Educators share the experience and tips around how to do these at home and what works for them and what could work for other caregivers trying to do the same at home so really. What we're aiming to do is to kind of creative space when we can all learn together. The reality is that this is unprecedented. Times unchartered territory for all of us so we really just want to use this as an opportunity to learn together and then more statically on something. That's been around. That's existed for a little bit and we still offer it for free professional development courses which is actually hosted on participate This professional development quarters was created around the idea that students indeed learn a lot of their social skills particularly empathy by modeling what they see in the role model so it's a five course series that starts with helping. Educators built more self awareness around the things that affect how they relate to others so identity biases stereotypes all that stuff so once we have that self awareness then we can turn to teaching concretely empathy and other social awareness skills to students so the latter part of the course now which includes exercises to be done in the classroom has to be rethought a little bit so that we can apply it to the new context but the content is free. And it's there and I think it's still really relevant and we're GonNa be thinking about how we can make it. The exercises doable now and then to this needs to go to learn more about in paddock. Where you gave us a couple of websites but you can go to repeat it again and also where can our listeners? Connect with both of you guys. As far as on social media wherever else yes so to get more around Paddock Dot Org? Everything is there from. Our blog are particle at home and regular pod ago. And then you can find me on twitter. I recently joined the twitter game. That was very hesitant a while but yeah so I'll be there as well. I'm at atmos- Britain one. I wanted to mention that. If you go to participate dot com slash on education You'll actually see a link to the spark empathy community on Within Paddock. Oh So if you go to on Participate DOT COM slash on education. And you can check out everything. That impact goes doing on participate which is Awesome Veronica. Any drian thanks so much for your time today. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for listening to on education. My name is Glenn Van. My Co host is Mike Washburn on education is part of the on podcast media network. You can listen to this show and many others by educators like Monica Burns. Mike Mattera Tissue Richmond and many more by visiting on PODCAST MEDIA DOT COM. WanNa get in touch with us. Check out our website at on occasion. Podcast DOT COM. You can tweet us. The Education Pod. 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Board Man Gets Rings - Unanimous Decision #140

"Some order i go why never leave if not toronto at least are lodge welcome back to the unanimous decision podcast i'm your host deep on follow me on twitter at d palm six six follow the show on twitter at uti pod fall entire internet work at the mtr network you found us don't you dare loses subscribe on spotify subscribe on i tunes subscriber anywhere you're podcast for absolutely absolutely free makes you the five star review on i tunes if you leave a five star review in a note we will read it on the air no matter what if you email us at podcast at g mail dot com i recently got control back in the email account so you're emails would be read enough funding to in short order if you've reached the show that method in recent past almost joined just some things are happening around the network i know that our pride month care the corners outlets featuring some of the bigger more notable moments of lgbtq representation in big to comic books of course not comprehensive one because we can't do a show that long to there's gonna be another month next year hashtag contents now i know what you're thinking well it's been a long long times i heard deep home on the mike we had a finals and we had a stanley cup finals and we had nbs go insane and tonight as you listen you're gearing up to the draft who better to leads you into embiid referee knows nothing about the prospects saves zion then myself or not gonna start the draft start at the end anti in the last time we checked in be on the court that is the toronto raptors were mbh champions and you could say what you will about 'em you're asterik injuries but hey that's that's the way the cookie crumbles this is a team that's been tested that's been pushed that has push others and has stepped up and step through they gambled last summer they gambled on quiet leonard leonard a lot of people were scared off boston new york a lot of people said i don't wanna trade for one year deal we can't assume a paul george falling in love with the place is gonna work what serrano said was even if it doesn't work and we can't you say let's maximize one of the best players in the world and get him on are team and by god they paid off for only three players and everyone be finals mvp the two teams only one player has ever done in two different conferences till also group quiet leonard is the only player to i think in recent memory have a direct ten in the murder of two actual real life dynasties see what you about miami was a micro dicey and having quickly but they went to four straight finals and i don't think anyone in the world would tell you these worst team wasn't a dynasty that coal for the might of the claw it's really interesting to see his personality emerge over the last last few days and weeks before net quiet leonard while the robot the robot with a very very very very very funny side and he might just be met with a jump shot a wrestling fan you might know what that means all but no it's been great watching quiet leonard kind of emerge not just in the playoffs but i get outside of the playoff everytime push about his free agency kind of dimmers you give any clear answers yes or no i like that about him like these you know allowing the team aligned himself allowing the city in the nation of toronto a toronto in canada to breathe and kind of enjoy this win before we deal with the business of basketball that could cover these other things some of the great stories coming out of this obviously is redemption of kyle lowry calories in the victim of many a joke for many reasons for the last a couple of years but i'll tell you what a play in game six down the stretch is really kind of inspiring a i got the jokes off when he got his shot blocked by dream on i know the block but the jokes did not come down because that's the way the internet works i guarantee kyle lowry knows that hat tip to nick nurse first year coach who he's fine coach he's fine but you know it's interesting the see you know just however she says handle such a situation coming in saying runnerup place one of those loving players in franchise history demar derozen with someone who had been scored in the media an by m mb front offices for not playing last year because he did not believe his body will heal and did not want to abdicate responsibility of his own health to a team doctor who is more interested in successive the team then of the health of the player will talk more about that in a second but a little by famous story out of toronto so far has been the fact that pascal seok on that fred ad aj frederick as amended defense leaked which is amazing name i would demand ago by fred but that's just me i'm a crazy person they were actually teammates on indie hdl championship team one of those jobs in the audience tonight they won the championship in pascal's yakim one mvp one nick nurse it's a pretty cool story no matter how you cut it and while i had a good time talking about the winners and talk about how they got here we all know what the real story is what kind of the biggest news of the finals was save toronto so in drake doing whatever toronto injury to the golden state warriors and i know that a lot of finger pointing and a lot of blacks were being covered by familiar and someone say amicable news outlets saying oh this is a freak accident nobody could have been known but as you watch more and more of this unfold the kevin durant injury looks like one thing to me and it does tiny what i mentioned about quiet leonard it's did he trust the teams words so the team indeed told him as a reporter by that's been told us about bob myers end by steve kerr that his injury was such that it could not hurt worse yet the ask yourself what that means because he went from in game three in for not being cleared to practice to being dreamland frigging five minutes restriction now will get into what i think actually happened but let's go with the best case near the best case scenario is that indeed the team said to him before game five look it's torn you're accuses gone and it's gonna go we need surgery rep prepared to have surgery on anyway so we might as well do what you can in that case i probably wouldn't have played in eleven or twelve out of the first fourteen minutes but that's again i know people that's terrific that's where bears that may be what happened i'm not a high level athlete never really was but i did play college sports i did see wondering to accuse you popped in my lifetime end when you watch him go down against houston and he doesn't grab his calf much lower in the intervening weeks between the houston series in game five that ice you know where you're cabs all right people the right below you're knees and that any lessons by people ice what's below the cats and there's gonna be conspiracy theories end proclamation people did water who knew what when rivers the government grassy knoll from however mall in there should be because there's two very soon conversations you're the first one from pure basketball perspective holy shit you change the league this is a player who is rumored to be taken super max money to be going problem we the brooklyn as the rumors of kind of or out but you know your cat hope as they often do hope is alive but that's gone now kevin durant even go to a new team in this off season with his injury better question just kevin rick trust this training staff riana he did watch them and how they handle booking all year we don't know how he feels about we do know that day greenlee didn't play and people say well do you wanna play i get that you wind up playing game for klay thompson held him out with a strained hamstring strain hamstring not a calf rose from of a strained hamstring you know why they held up a strained hamstring because he's in investment they've got money into they have future years klay thompson if let's say does say there were no new contract signed today they've got clay thompsons rights they never had kevin durant's going forward they were trying to maximize an expiring massive sounds like hedge fund talk congratulations that's what happens when hedge fund guys take overly nb hedge fund guys take over things about people and make them numbers on a spreadsheet i've heard more about danny engines mismanagement of assets and it's very little analysis of what the fuck is wrong there because of the people involved with that clay sitting one game and then kevin ray coming back after a month yeah they'd like kevin i feel i feel pretty good confidence they lied kevin especially when you look at someone like jay williams who is actually hosting you kevin durant's kind of the shop equivalent only it's been a streaming service he's hosting that he's close to both kevin ring in his agent in get wins on it's been it's been excoriated the warriors front office in management in coaching and i'm not saying he's doing it's on the command of katina's camp but i am saying that if you're that close you don't say these things are feeling without knowing more the average fan but they lie and he tourist industry or tories accusing him in klay thompson the robot go up there and says i'm gonna play in tears ac i wanna lay you've been humbled that shoot the free doesn't case you could play some more in reports were at the time klay thompson is doing jumping jacks in sprint thing in the tunnel and everyone told you look at this guy's a warrior all i heard was looking at this fucking medical malpractice continuing doing here if you didn't have questions about how certain star players first certain warriors teams had the go outside the organization their ankles fix questions now in reasonable ones in the righteous just ones in the ones that are gonna go away until after you want it and so this is the thing you said you want it you said you wanna kinda shy the weight eight you believe they say that you're own menu kerryon team know who's gonna kevin and get things done you ain't you buddy good luck covers somewhere that later in the show but it's interesting because this wasn't championships assigning a little hiatus the bruins one shooting oh i'm so used to saying boston teams winning things and so much more fun the saint louis blues birthplace of my little brother no one cares about that me when i tell you what the saint louis blues won the stanley cup for the first time in team history and you know what since they started counting ratings of stanley cups highest rated you could say oh it's a traditional here in boston then when you point two percent louis could it be all of us warning watch boston lose or could it be the stanley cup games are by far particular the finals is the most one you could have watching sports the most one bar none hands down no questions that i applaud the lose the bankruptcy of the bruins and make everyone destroy the boston teams in their life now when the bruins won their game they want it for one if you keep doing the blues when the blues when they want it for going on boston dies there you're gonna hurt a fucking pin drop i loved it but one of the things i saw the worst when they went up for nothing they celebrated in noone said it was classes over done for goals why you pouring it on a couple of nights ago i get braves stuff on my new speakers on prison the braves fans 'cause they're old and you know having that could still mike maccagnan old friends and you just but what they did was they hung about thirteen in the mets i want to highlight the guy's a fist pumping five in hand they're excited thirteen up when you us women's national team did it start pool play in the world cup everyone had a problem classless who when necessary bad sportsmanship you both teams in the video appreciated it that they liked the respect that showed them and that inspired the better the second gamble play uscca's free nothing we're halftime and that goal if she says fuck in that noise we don't score against the hack and it's not like putting the ball in the net she just turned up her game because when you're faced with a better opposition as a competitor you're for system if you're game how did that become a global sport we roll the ball ninety two chuck taylor fused coney timeout christian leader got everybody a bunch of water in the dream team worked the world there's likely mvp is young the people whose name i can't pronounce because i'm a stupid american but because the game went global he's hear people say oh you can't go global the game expand and you don't know if that's quarterback i know it's good you know how i know it's been the best in the world anywhere what's what's the next question you're gonna be only questioning whether you're going to be a everyone's go basketball from japan to new york make the league maybe now you maybe some people have real stations the first time you don't go out there and say look at me i'm standing on the way when someone says something nice no we all did the thing in are front yards on the basketball court three to one and some of us may have seen outside way too long shots telling me has basically hit closer closer until the way i have another jumper anymore i'm the hit a judge me or you i'm just telling you how basketball appealed to the masses they did not do it by taking it easy on in go they beat the dog shit on the people publicly and they couldn't get around barcelona while they did it know saint paul other countries and maybe it's i hate the thing is just garden variety massaging but i do know that when the uscca is good at anything no tells michael tells the slow down in the pool you beat him too bad michael no one there is no conversation on national media if the braves were embarrassing the mess but we pretend that it's gonna be athlete athlete who generates just as much money at the gate at the usa men's national team is instantly more successful in does so with the lack of reach of the propaganda gained in machine and what do i mean so when you talk to people supporting it in advancing it not just within are borders but globally they gotta have a serious conversation with themselves about what do they actually care about where do they spend their time and where do they spend their money wj a long time there's a loss leader for them yet but it's amazing the ratings have gone up as public awareness is risen so as you increase the publication tation in me support for the league become it's not if you build it they come they will come if you build it in you tell them about that's when they call that's when you're sport pops in nazi answer next round usa swings at the time losing this in thursday the heads of the next round of course maybe the knockout stage so as three but and everyone's saying this to play a game doesn't matter the dryer drier they draw they win they leave top of fruit i'll tell you this this usa swimming national team was eight they won the world cup in two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen they got knocked out i believe in the quarters olympics by this sweden team three years ago the steam as ever gotten you want if you're a fan of soccer and you don't wanna watch the draft tonight i guess when this is being aired on thursday that's the game you'd watch now i gotta back in the final minutes of everything in the world then it's official kickoff wire rewatch season 'cause i don't watch baseball and i haven't started i'm starting to think follow me on twitter at people and six so i'll figure out a hashtag some stories that were kind of lost in the finals and i do wanna bring up and give some some air to if you're in the stands up in india gave you the stance of an nfl game if you're in the stands about hockey game baseball game there's one thing i think we could all agree on keep you're mother fucking hand you're mother fucking self and really wants all like honestly const without consent keep answer so however if you're in a situation where you know baby or i dunno nominally minority owner of a basketball team in a player has the temerity the following year you're not on you but here you you might feel a deep privilege an anger necessary to put their hands that player mb i said you know you're gonna not be welcome in new arena free refinery some money with enough money i don't think so the thing is safely probably but a it's it's uncharted territory honestly this is one of those ones where i i'm glad anytime buddy acted quickly i'm kinda glad the sponsor so good so we moved on but it also addresses this is a sport where there's the least amount of distance between athletes and me attendees n as in particular the hughes oakland is a test case as certain types of attendees certain people certain socioeconomic groups or price out there being a place of people who aren't used to being told no and sometimes that privilege signifies itself by doing the last game of or in oracle and having a leap senior train sing the national anthem that's true look it up or maybe manifest itself by saying you know run in san francisco and it's not gonna matter new all i know is a battle buddy lost money i'm glad he lost at sea opelousas team and keep brands yourself like it must be really real everyone who's watched kyle lowry basketball lights i like it wasn't a push kyle lowry like it in my heart of hearts i've already done shiver like oh so it's a shove you can't you can't do there's a big gap between having a thought including her hands on other human beings don't bridging the gap so after i don't think it's big joe in fruit flies friends friends you may have seen me on twitter going someone say a little overboard about this story i say that because if you're watching the pregame show before the final games you saw this in publisher tried to tamper down oda napa took the director paul we saw you say we saw you say we think we see you if you're asking what i'm talking about well gather around ginsburg depot story time because in the two thousand eight mb finals paul pierce went down paul pierce went down end band could not get up he asked white ardently for a wheelchair to get him off the court is game one of the finals in one of my longest standing favor embiid rumors was confirmed and tell them paul pierce admitted on national television many victims now i can't say it's true accident in general i could totally say is true of course paul pierce proved himself in literally make sense in of course that's what happened that this is been a longstanding like rumor in mbh for years that pulp here's who as you remember famously was carted off and then ran back on the court as someone who i dunno dropped a lot of weight in a in a hurry where do you stand looked at the camera no one asked him knowing brought it up no talking about what they wanna say two thousand eight when i went down in the wheelchair 'cause something flipped out johnson says one or two and he says i'd rather not discuss it now you know and he said oh i was joking with a joke you don't make jokes about very specific conspiracy theorist and armpit widespread like if anyone who comes out and like i can see there's a subset of people who like cd fall he's trolling you and i'm like no no no he's admitting you can see like i don't see why people wouldn't trust this paul pierce saying i put myself self i tell you guys a lot of this by guys i share things i brought my wife to the show i brought my friends i put my family on this show i can promise you one thing podcast if i ever put myself in public you'll either know immediately or never there's no in between me idea that a lemon years to the day published just like you know what i'm gonna make this everyone's gonna know i'm kidding no no paul paul where's the poop the answer is celtics fans but yeah they may change is taken age drastic change should be a finals when did this start in hell well certainly east landscaping he's really hinges on why like everyone's kind of waiting for this why decision the rumors he's gonna leave that the clippers on the shortlist i know there were members of i don't believe lakers rumors will talk about that and the the traverse share market is a dime store rob lowe's man is really being a lakers in a second but yeah there's really no way he do anything because look at these honest of contenders the the buster kind of counting on m the continued development of the freak which i guess passing db forget that jump shot a very often some hurdles chris middleton opted out looks like he's going for the mac somewhere hopefully back in milwaukee you look at philly they don't know what's up jimmy butler also ten you blow that up is it time you know they got over because all the hand wringing that's happened people who didn't roofer why if that ball bounces three times instead of for the sixers go to the next round two bucks so three nothing instead of falling behind falling up to one they probably win that series a lot of things broke the broncos way and i'm not one practical things happen to where they happen you can't listen i didn't but i think it's interesting that because of the way happened because of who won a lot of teams particular these different crossroads like i said the raptors don't know what's going on they've got people who bring back in time it got pushed her co why maybe somebody could be sustainable convincing instead paul george and like i said earlier oh the wizards those ardoz they have new gmc truck snakes tonight drive that is thursday june twentieth and they have no jim they're making a run of messiah jerry what's what's the deal is in place that story free kim week because now you've wasted a week on a story that was floated for a man who's not coming to you and if he does come will do so after the draft very damning decision by them but when you get some bad decisions i start i endorse in east because you're just hate to see it but there's a new unfamiliar with you why that is the smugness of boston sports media end the boston celtics the last few years well i'm gonna catch you up danny aines has been is a former player who's been touted as h rooted negotiators who values quote unquote assets when i was a kid he calling people but if either here or there is cultivation asset this collection as always allegedly preamble to acquiring a franchise defining player i know that a couple of years where people were kind of thinking questioning second guessing this this method but the second they're able to trade some picks the brooklyn picks an isaiah thomas were corrupt why irks me kyri were like okay that's the first step the next up is always gonna be similar incidents let's be honest people who've had next year's free agency circled on the calendar for years because they want a shot at a generational player who is as thomas recording a hundred days out of being twentysix he's less than a hundred and twenty six love under nasal is a very young players thomas game wasn't who had injury problems in three three years of injury concerns or bit overblown in my opinion but if you've been paying attention in danny danny something genius that his media friends would have you think he is way danny genius 'cause he fleeced really came you can read eighty percent of america welcome the minnesota where do we doing here billy king seems on the wrong side of so many bad it'd be adrian i do think hiring should be considered about practice and the owners should be fired from the league i don't have that power yet but telling you that if we build a king and then i wouldn't dumping a bunch of twelve year old like congratulating that seven year old that's really key in a gm says don't know nice man then i was told that this coach who biggest accomplishments was over achieving at butler with underachieving town which is literally not the job of it mbh coach i would throw he was a genius the boy wonder he would sit from heaven the teachers had a coach basketball in this new paradigm in his future i don't see it that doesn't allow stories being written but i wanna work on i wanna hone in on one from jackie macmullan where she talked this morning on 'em i believe i believe i can't remember the reality which your report this morning we're gonna park as i said look the reporting i've done says that he left turn to the celtics if you will began earlier the season when they were forcing minutes on the gates gordon hayward and you could say oh no this is just a coach looking welcome back an injured player and working in the rotation and that's one breeding of it my rating is a coach who's got one of his players from butler will soon a security blanket and says look i'm gonna force him back in a regular this 'cause that's the guy the best how the coach they look everyone the wrong way it was the beginning of the all the backbiting and walkers only exasperated by the fact attorneys he's a weirdo the job even be a head coach is a call plays in managed personality he's calling plays fine but it feels like he's overmatched in the personality game because not only are you losing carrier not only is coordinated or not back to one percent but also reports of saying oh horford out people telling me we go there's no way out horford doesn't off then you've got thirty guaranteed coming his way deep paul you're not those people now because not only is he opted out he's campus broken off talks with danny age they're not even in the same room they're not even playing the same sport is out once ring and he's smart enough to look around and say there's nothing here that gets me to a ring on the boston celtics producers said no the thirty million dollars keep that in mind with ever dealey sides i'm very see the markets were out horford i hope it somewhere the four year i hope he i hope he signs over used to be security that is looking for out of the next year more than anything else on a cigar 'em it's just weird man if you're gonna be damn crazy on next year but not as crazy as so we start at the top we start with the warriors were bringing back a steph curry is gonna have kerry await is never ask scary and also dream on green who is probably the best still the best when he's on all round defender the league but he's also coming to a contractor is gonna be gunning for some money somebody that might be earmarked first injured teammates and you look at all this and i didn't go back to this you go to bob myers very teary press conference after game five he began with him tearfully sort of explaining what happened by using words and phrases that are on recor saying they're experts most william arise multiple doctors could do play by collaborative decision that sounds like like corporate executive mad is it sounds like the same press conference you get a bunch of crude oil was up on the gulf of mexico if you have to consult with enough doctors but you've come to a collaborative decision maybe shouldn't do that i get it bob last show right gotta get their money's worth right last maybe the last push this franchise right and i don't think kevin durant was prompted by the media but i do think that if a player says they're injured players that could will play don't talk shit media don't question their motives no question there film it and don't question their top of us don't do it irresponsible and that's how we got that is legitimately why we're here and again i don't think is influenced by but i think he created a culture in a climate where even entirely some of his teammates were asking hey if you plan on the collarbone in clay sort of place in his hamstring how hurt is kevin real dancer pretty fucking hurt and i tell you what somebody's gonna be crazy next year is watching the warriors try to do this with just steph curry one of v more unfortunate problems with south korea is that he's born when he is which means invariably he's gonna drawn comparisons to probably the best basketball player of all time lebron james and because this is happening i gotta say things like this we look at potential few go ahead dubose in the playoffs in the final twenty four seconds of the fourth quarter and overtime one look that's overnight anes that's not good an he's had a chance to sanford final is the kind of take over defined the finals any kind of wealth in those moments so you know the braun is nine twenty tony one of those series in that situation forty two point nine percent from the field which is by far the most of anyone who qualifies as a number of shots just in case you're wondering if hashtag lebron was clutch but i think this is kind of not what he needed definitely not what he needed it's not what you want it but it's what it's gonna happen in golden state fans they've done a lot of good job i'm you see i feel like you know he was the one who did everything it's lebron james and people say oh they only the title of injuries you gotta remember they only one other ones because of injuries to the first title you're gonna tell me that not having kyri or kevin love and having the second play the best player on the cows be something called matthew della vedova didn't matter that matter the first title katie their injuries all over the place there last year they barely squeak by the rockets who had their number because of an injury to chris paul so i think while people say oh asterik all of this this is the way the cookie crumbles when you're there a lot when you're in this space a lot this is the way things couldn't go free end with that knowledge without ability and you understand look man didn't break garwin so semi steph contract you're dream on an assortment of pieces because about sixty million dollars cap space is gonna wearing suits all next year maybe we see clay back in march but i i'm what for who for fucking what we say oh look the rockets almost beat them two years wrote this is the time for the rockets said not so fast my friend because daryl morey like you're boy danny ainge just one of these asset guy he doesn't see people's people's he's assets and what happens with that is when you draft underperform you lash out at the ss not the main cream in a mirror is the worst and you're gonna own apparently the gm daryl morey decided to antagonize their coach are firing his entire staff and low volume an offer he does all this before the injuries beset by the warriors i think that's very important and i do not think he does these things if post a brain injury in dublin that post clay injury because now you've got a disgruntled coach doesn't wanna come back you got chris paul openly bitching in the media about demanding a trade end their people notice counteroffer the bus tests this was never going to work to ball dominant guys and yes chris paul is smart enough to suffocate his game for some other people but an end the season was kind of a tipping point for because win all this went down when we chris got hurt earlier this year james harden is gonna run where he only score he was he often teams everything end didn't really work i mean worked at one of the games he kinda bounced sacramento slow from a slow a start but it's where it was then when chris comes back in january he's on that we were not still gonna be doing the show i'm back now in hardens like man got this you get the ball when i'm tired of dribbling or also by the way when you get the ball i'm not gonna moving off the ball hungry standing still getting my win back some i made all know that remember the hope you guys and the drive it's basically make life harder for everyone else who's not named james art here's this rosen this makes sense the counterpoint is he is a member of be nfl ph management committee who helped develop a rule that would make sure that you guys have been at ten years and they we himself in the bronx over the supermax contract which is why him demanding a trade is hilarious because chris paul do might say thirty four year old short can't shoot can't defend point guard who is being paid thirty million dollars next year in forty million dollars a year after that yeah so whatever team gets brought up there in this fall for a the rockets i'm here to watch because that's just gonna be crazy town lakers have returned excellence because let's be honest the kind of wasting that first year of the brawn james i'm tired of people said honestly even as i said i would describe myself being wasted using them i just way possible they saw this team has constructed around the brawn james wasn't gonna get it done and then when people say oh that was a good guys magic johnson watcher centrally kids may jones in the interview last summer about the signing of last season about something's up rondo who actually know through till about mike but those signings with other places ross that's not shooting magic johnson says you want tough it's not shooting which is stupid not smart and so now the lakers are gonna be going into the season something that no other team has ever had on anytime the browns played for them lebron james who has an entire spring off you should take more time off because of the injuries the growing as evidence by the hitler violations i came out after the season but also lebron james doesn't have an extra twenty twentyfive games on the dollar he plays well he may ninth straight finals the warriors made five and we were million burnley nine no that's crazy it's crazy and so it's gonna be very interesting 'cause you're gonna be revitalized play alongside by far the greatest teammate he's ever had and it's the perfect common repeat this isn't like 'em he ends waiver he incur kyri this is eight pick you're going to share teen with the pick and roll finisher into the best six players in the league on same team isn't a lot of hand wringing him and hiring how they build a team around it well i don't trust 'em overgrown joe rob lowe a politico i think the situation where you saw in miami where people were taking pay cuts to play with the same idea oh you're more future no they didn't they guaranteed it twenty two anthony davis is the future give me a prime is generally particular big man twenty seven to thirty one thirty two we haven't seen the best of anthony davis and go why were they showed them this year he was having a better statistical season then he did the year before it's gonna be very interesting and very telling and see what they decide do bills around them but i from one here for pelicans help they made slashes where everything they acquired everyone says oh they got their picks up the the the lakers one based on those not being good takes into what do you really getting that these things are not argue that the tony tony to i believe is a valuable pick because we're get the double drafted that's the first year i think that the intersections lifted so that's very interesting but the pels against the double drought that year but yeah i don't i i think it's interesting exciting i don't know if they keep all those players i dunno brandon ingram is cleared to play you is basically in the last season into blood clots i've heard nothing that would say a it's it's it's taking care of now just ask questions to us well so we owe this week just happened today the jazz got like only the jazz are immediately much better basketball team and immediately contenders in the west because the west is why fucking open daryl morey is in period but it's true i know what had happened i think it was around the decision time maybe a couple of years before that when the knicks including cap space to court lebron in twenty ten because i'll tell you this at some point in my lifetime mbh became a twelve month season dnb india became a three sixty five have the jump on everyday in austin type of season and then yeah wait why is he nfl it's only a twelve hour talking about season because they're all seasons not phone like this and when it is usually bad like in cleveland were baker mayfield has taken it upon himself to be leader guy veteran guy money guy guy guy in call out duke johnson and his financial dispute with the team do jobs is asking traded the team's not gonna be acquiesce looks like at least not now and baker says that's his problem probably isn't going to be it'd be here long it'd be here you wouldn't be it's not or if she would no one is awkward you wants to leave he's he's here now he's going for older players at a pull baker side like we don't do that here young buck we don't talk about other people's money in this is gonna go wanna do is they doubled down and being the guy guy and he's gonna need a locker crew showed a lot of those low heathrow's last year may have actually been lock and when you see how much they regressed of the mean when they put in a position coaches new head coach freddie kitchens is already said the wrong thing tours at times in the media regarding odell beckham you're most talented where you're gonna see ibra one little bit bill bush now it's gonna go will see 'em but hey you know what that's not even the biggest news in football right now because mother fuckers we've got the raiders on hard knocks and i don't watch hard knocks as eighteen i might watch this year guys like this year like they got some real like this is the one where i'm like oh so this may be using a deposition in one day like someone could end up deposed in israel will be part of the whole proceeding you look at what they brought in their look at who's running it two guys who are not unfamiliar with the other side of the camera mike mayock and jon gruden it almost feels like this is the plan i hope was and i hope that i think it's nine more user bruton didn't just say were gonna be hard knocks team but honestly with vegas next year maybe they are maybe these like look we wanna own hard knocks lock bringing some revenue become america's team because guess what every home game for the raiders in las vegas is a road game because people were flying to vegas and then pay it back and para falcons game with the vegas strip yeah i'll do that i'll do that i mean they're gonna go fund me some shit maybe you got people that are myself in that way specific way hurting selves eighteen games it's come up again guys everytime the cpa's up in negotiation which he embarrassment nfl it's gonna come up i'm telling you right now this is not going to happen it's not it can it's irresponsible does 'em and they're gonna try to like make some some boston want some other things to make it look better eighteen games can't happen with the preseason games never going away that's revenue the put the owners like rather see other resolve it but eighteen games i started i believe that this is just too much anybody hope you guys enjoyed this podcast we'll be back on sunday brand new show tobacco unscheduled a happy father's ablett everyone who celebrate who is a father has a father or loves her father if you don't like you know hey don't be that guy is like well ashley my phone i get it it's not 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Wonderful! 118: Butt-Shaped Fruits

Rose Buddies

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Wonderful! 118: Butt-Shaped Fruits

"Hi this is Rachel mcelroy. Hello this is Griffin. Roy and this is wonderful. This is a smart show podcast for intellectuals like myself and Rachel a couple of real tea drinkers. And what's your favorite T.. Mine Hot Earl. Grey hot. That's captain. Jean Luc Picard. The card would drink on Star Trek. I sounded a lot like your love. Actually voice actually. Now that you mention it does happen. Buna who throw a hypothesis now. I meant the the woman this is uh I don't want something I need. So there's a character in love. Actually that I liked to AH imitate for Rachel because it's probably favorite character. The one who tries to seduce Alan Rickman married character. Her and that is she's so single faceted. Why are we talking about this now? I don't know that she's so so wildly single like minded in this like it's amazing amazing. She remembers to eat or use. This is all that she thinks about. And just every line she delivers in this movie's just full of Dot Collina's for Doc. 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My entire life made it thirty seven years and didn't do it and then recently I have seen two films I little women's second Joe Rabbit both incredible and kind of premier so low viewing experiences because they both left left me quite weepy interesting. Sit alone in the dark with my tears. I think I saw fast furious. Seven by myself similar weeping. I think yes or whichever one had the tribute to allies with you on because you did seem you did see you. Guess Bay. Call me weep. I'm GonNa say Molay I just got back from a trip to Houston and ate at a moly. molay themed restaurant it was it called Holy Malay- joke when I was there. Of course you did soulmate. I love you. It was so good. I've had since moving to Austin. Obviously before I moved here actions. They obviously you know I lived in Chicago and Cincinnati probably has gotten malate in places. But I'd I never had it before I am the Spaghetti in it and it's really if like so good. It's my it's one of my favorite edible fluids rich there's a richness to that in this place had thirteen different kinds of molly so so so so good I love it I love it I love it I love Molay okay I think I I it's time I don't know let me think yes because I ended the show with sky cookies must start with something classy please do so I was in Houston for the Royal Rumble. Okay so that's what I'd like to talk about. The real rub is format. I don't want to talk about the WWe as a franchise because Kinda Kinda Stinky. There's some stink in there that I don't necessarily want to dive Evan. To the the rich history of that stink the royal rumble as a sporting entertainment. Format is about as good as it gets. This is just about the best sort of way that wrestling can be. Presented Camby consumed Can't be performed as a as an entertainment sport you explain. Just very briefly the difference between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemainia for me the royal rumble is think of it. As the penultimate sort of major event in the Russian year wrestlemainia usually happens around April and so the royal rumble sort of sets up the big story lines the Taylor of both the men and women's Royal Rumble Events The the the individual royal rumble matches get to fight in a championship match. NATCH ACT WRESTLEMAINIA. So ever wins the royal rumble is going to Wrestlemainia. That is the whole conceit of the event. I have been to wrestlemainia before And this was a this way better because the royal rumble is a very powerful powerful event. I should say I am not like a huge wrestling fan. Especially these days really percents Henry was born. I feel like I've kind of dropped off quite a bit from. I used to watch all the paper views. I've never been one to watch all the wrestling program the anti given week. Because there's like seven fucking hours of it and I'm going to say wrestling ally. I am using it interchangeably with wwe. Oh there's a lot of other wrestling franchises. A AH my friends the Minsk will tell me about a pretty regularly. All elite wrestling sounds hot. We gotta get down that but anyway I'm talking about the royal rumble for the WWE VW. If you've never watched it before the royal rumble match is to opponents into the ring and then every ninety seconds another contender enters the ring until thirty people have entered the ring and the only way that you can be eliminated if somebody throws you over the top rope and on your feet touch the ground. That's it those are the those are the rules. There's no pinning right so there's none of that like oh he's got to Oh kicked out. It's if if you get thrown out of the ring like Dj Jazzy. Jeff that's if your feet touch the ground the feet touch the ground because Kofi Kingston I've shown you and we definitely have watched a royal rumble. Before I showed you Kofi Kingston raided some like he'd like walked back. It's like floor is lava routine where they like hop from like item to item to not touch the floor. He's grown up a bit. He was the champion for like. I say he's grown up. I mean W W is given him like more storylines actually this time. He didn't have a skit. which was heartbreaking? Naomi did in the women's royal rumble. She liked fully jumped all the way to the barricade between the ring and the crowd and then built a bridge out of like a big the placard thing on the commentators tables and walks across it So fresh but that's it right and so there's no confusion and if you don't follow wrestling you still know when somebody's out because they've been they are big and they've been launched out of a ring to the ground That is very good to watch it is. I don't watch like wrestling programming. Not only because they're seven hours of it a week but also because especially in like a non pay-per-view review format the matches are so long and there's so much talking and there's so much business and there's so much stuff and there's so many like big cool spots where they do sweet ass flips and dope stunts and then the lay on the ground for five minutes and there's a lot of recovery get it. That's good I don't want them to hurt themselves. I mean that but it the matches are so long sometimes haimes royal rumble every ninety seconds. Something new new entrants. Nobody knows who's going to be in the royal rumble. Nobody knows the order. That people are gonNA come out. So the thirtieth breath person could win because they have the fewest number of people to eliminate ostensibly this time. The Big Gimmick was Brock Listener. Who is the big big boy? The big strong former former intimate champ Jimmy. John's right Jimmy Johns man. Yes went out first and then just proceeded to throw the next ten guys out of the ring basically as soon as they got in there which sucked sucked? Except it was really sweet when he got chucked although Shinsuke Nakamura died for our sins there which is heartbreaking that is that is the tricky part of this royal rumble. Is that if you have any any faves. You can't guarantee you're GONNA get to spend any time with them because they may just they may just get launch one foot in the ring one foot out immediately but you never know who's going to be in this. The big thing was edged came back who is like a like attitude era wrestler who retired like fifteen years. A long time ago came out looked great rate started a new feud it was high. It was great but like one time I was watching it and drew Carey. came out fucking drew. Carey came out one time. Yeah he got pretty pretty much squashed right away but hey that's drew carey from the TV show. Shaquille O'Neal came out at I. I believe either a royal rumble or a royal rumble. Ask event during Wrestlemainia and it's just like Oh there's Shaquille O'Neal and then you remember. Like Oh shit. He's a big fella because he's actually doing pretty good out there. You get any surprise. Cameos like that mostly mostly. They were either like INEX- t which is like the Development League like wrestlers is getting Keith Lee. Who made his? WWe debut from ACSI see who seemed fucking radical. But no I think mostly like sort of referencing a wrestlers over the past. I've talked about the men's royal rumble. Mostly here the women's royal rumble was also like totally totally radical. Naomi was great. There's a T- wrestler named Bianca Bel Air. WHO had incredible run? This is is it. They'll right like I don't follow wrestling but coming out of the royal rumble. Like I know about sort of like drew McIntyre's arc because I watched it in a single event. That's all I need. It's like a little magazine. It's like the toys R.. US Big Toy book of big wrestlers. Because it's like I like that one. I like that that one. I don't have to watch seven hours a week of them having not okay story lines most of the time yeah. It's an ideal way to consume a very very very goofy thing and I like it even even even though. I'm not a big wrestling watcher these days I think I didn't even really watch wrestlemainia last year. That a lot and I think it's okay. It's okay well no I'm following that up with saying I will watch the royal rumble every year until I die because it is a it is just completely entertaining event and I had a ton of fun with it. What to use them with some friends stayed there? Do you no the bathroom situation. The minute maid park was a absolute catastrophe and so at a certain point I just started. Stop put things in my body except for the last event which was the men's royal rumble where I did have a big Margarita and it was a fun time for everyone nearby. What's this your first thing? Oh we should also say that if if any wrestling enthusiasts are listening to this they should check out tights on fights yes I have not listened to their coverage or their discussion of the Royal Rumble. But I'm excited to. What is your first thing though? My first thing is a trip to the ring But but not the wrestling ring. It is a trip to the poetry ring by which I mean poetry corner by which I mean. Boom boom. Boom boom. Do Do bub-bubba Holy Shit right back out of retirement and his catchphrase that he says which is. Let's get chilly early. And then he blows snow in their eyes fall over anyway. What's up Actually is a frosty fresh. Now you got down now but it is Rita dove and I imagine there could be a wrestling nickname. Made out of that that you know 'cause the dove is like the sign of peace and maybe she brings peace to the rest now. Never mind. I know you haven't watched a ton of wrestling but they don't typically go that route I think Bailey has that market corn. Oh Yeah Paly. Apparently apparently she's Dark Bailey. Now that's okay we anyway. We cannot talk about wrestling any more than we already have. Okay Rita dove has been in in the poetry and just general like writing game for over thirty years now She's born Ohio She went to Miami University And then got an MFA from Iowa Writers Workshop. She was the US poet laureate in from nine hundred ninety three to nineteen ninety five and at forty. She was the youngest poet. Wow that's great. In the first African American poet laureate prior to there being a poet laureate there was another position that was called something else At which point Gwendolyn Brooks held a lot a lot. She has received seved twenty eight honorary doctorates. That's too many. That's too many. There's not a wall that's going to look good. There's it's gotta be a load bearing wall to hang twenty eight. Honorary doctorates up off. She introduces herself as Doctor Doctor. Doctor Doctor Doctor Director Doctor Dr Dove. Yeah probably every time. It probably sounds a lot cooler when she says it though or Rita dove come a PhD St PhD. She has not only written poetry. She has also published a book of short stories a novel full and a play. Currently she is the professor of English at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville Super Bowl poet. Yeah she has a lot of musicality or work. It's actually interesting. Her and her husband are a very passionate ballroom dancers. I thought you were GONNA say lovers. I'm going to be like probably that to. Hey come on yeah. She is apparently like performed in showcases with with her husband is a ballroom dance. Hell yeah she sounds radical And you can kind of see that that that musicality and mentioned in somebody actually wrote wrote about it. Emily News bomb in the New York. Times said that For Dove Dance is an implicit parallel to poetry. Each is an expression of grace performed within limits each and art waited by history but malleable enough to form something utterly new. That's great. That was a really nice way of describing it. That that's the thing I think that really really Is appealing to a lot of people about poetry is that there is some structure to it. You know. And so you can kind of be creative within that structure Much the way that you can in a lot of other art forms Like dance so I wanted to read a palm of hers that I really really enjoy and this. This one's jam packed There's like not a lot of lines here but each image is is kind of incredible okay. I'm listening. The poem is called Flirtation. Haitian after all there's no need to say anything at first an orange peeled and quartered flares like a tulip on a wedgewood plate. Anything can happen outside. The Sun has rolled up her. Rugs and night strewn salt across the sky. My heart art humming a tune. I haven't heard in years quiet school flesh. Let's sniff and eat it. There are ways to make of the moment a topiary so the pleasures in walking through. ooh Wine is something. There are ways to make the moment topiary so the pleasures and walking talking through is that is real good stuff so good. I'm so envious of this poem because I feel like it is doing doing a lot of what I have tried to do. In poetry which is to vary precisely create. Something that is so Avakian that once you hear it you you never forget it. Yeah that's incredibly good. That's that's one of the best ones that I heard on this show. Yeah she she has written a lot. I mean that's not necessarily representative senator. All of her work. She's written a lot of like historical poetry like based on like specific moments in American history. but I feel like that really precisely like captures her talent which is to just like take a concept and make it so sensual You know I mean if you're writing about fruit and Apoel it's GonNa it kind of and that's my guess. My one criticism writing about fruit and a poem is kind of a sensuality. Shortcut isn't isn't it well or in a painting you know fruit and a painting strew fruit and music and let's just get into it. Let's get into it. There's a lot of buts shape fruits in their an apple apple bottom like it's right there on the ten peach plum. I could eat a peach for hours. Like Cherry Cherry is another one. PLM uh-huh plums. It's also sensual pair pairs kind hair shaved like a like. It's all so buddy like has also fiercely but e why did it end up like that like is it horny evolution as Horny. The intelligent design. Like some it's something apple a fruit. That did not have a vegetables. Because I've never looked at salary and been like I wonder if I can fit my. You know what it on that it's not. It's a little more about you than about the fruit itself and actually you know I forgot about boards but a gourds technically fruit or not. Then you have seeds. They do have seeds but I never looked at a Broccoli and been like I have for eating eating it but not for the other thing. So what's your thesis. All fruit is made horny. Okay I'm not gonNA argue. I mean there's a lot of good points. He made their bank. You Melons yeah take my sale. You know we got sponsors away eight Kuwait. It's a good thing. mazing especially Dash Lane Dash Lane. I've talked about before. They offer a invaluable service for for professional worldwide web. Surfers like myself whenever I'm cruising around the information superhighway. I'm going to get my car in the Dash Lane because Dash Lane helps you fill out forms fast. 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Oh that sounds neat so I played it for a while I dip in over the course of maybe like a year I would just like check in every now and then and then I stopped opt for a decade and then it ended up being like the only game that every child plays and how also like the next generation of a Computer programmers are like using to learn stuff. And it's the biggest game ever and I completely just sort of ignored it or just occasionally watched it it from afar but then this week I was looking for something to play on switch. I was like I'll get that I opened up my own server and like put out a code for it and said hey everybody. Let's all all happened this and we'll see what happens and like after a week of that as like. Oh now I get why people enjoy this game because it's a really. It's a really special kind of thing. How how much do you know about like I mean I know that? There's like a little pickaxe and that you're like building stuff and then a lot of people will make little houses or fortresses and stuff I I don't really know what happens beyond the building Interesting I mean it is mostly about the building but there's a lot of other stuff that like Komo stuff beyond the building is like what has been added to this game in the last ten years that I wasn't necessarily aware of I should mention that. The one of the CO creators of the game name is a real premium. Shed head but he has been like more or less bought out from the property at this point. So good riddance It's it's you make stuff right there little. The the basic loop can be summarized as this you start out you have nothing. You're in this big randomly generated world. You see a tree tree you punch the tree to get. Would you then can turn into a wooden pick ax that you can use to get stoned that you can use to make a stone axe and and now it's faster and better and then you can cut down trees faster and get more would and it sort of just about like you know acquiring stuff to make more stuff. That's that's basically it but live. There's a lot of other wild shit going on that they've added since game came out so like they added a whole sort of agriculture update. Where now you can farm and you can create a ranch where you breed animals and you know shear sheep for their wool that you can die? Put into a loom and we've into different sort of things. That's the big thing. I think the reason that it is such a big thing for stem. Is that one of the updates added a thing called redstone which has sent essentially lets you create like circuitry lets you create basic sort of programming systems like and or Like Gates and you know it starts off with fairly basic stuff like that but you can also use it in tandem with a bunch of other stuff and make actual like computers shooters you can make actual from something as simple as like a calculator to something like really complex like a music synthesizer using just stuff inside of minecraft in craft and seeing all that stuff and seeing like being actually inside of this thing that I've kind of watched from afar kind of knowing that it was turning into something weird. I didn't really appreciate it until I got into it and also got into it in this. You know online world that has been populated by so far like like really chill people making completely buckwald Shit in this in this. This realm is what it's called and every time I dip in I walk in. It's like somebody's made a forty foot high Bart Simpson. That's pretty good. Somebody made one of the first features in this round. Called Good town was just the Museum of dirt were they showed off some of their favourite. Dirt's that they have. I had a horse and I named him the mayor and then he died and I let everybody know about it and then next time I logged in somebody had built me a whole stable with new horses new mayors that I could choose from and I recognize. That's probably not everybody's experience in the last time I played this game. It was completely other thing right. It was this like thing that started a fire that made this entire new. WHO's genre of crafting survival games now? There's dozens and dozens and dozens and hundreds of and it is a really unique experience to come back to it after sure. No joke almost ten years of not playing it and it is like just something else. It is something huge and complex and inscrutable double but like kind of a with when played in the right circumstances with the right people like kind of magical kind of amazing and and I think as somebody who covered the games industry professionally for for over a decade like it is always such a neat satisfying experience to have that kind of awakening onto onto like having a thing that you wrote about without barely understanding to like a thing. You are now sort of engrossed in and finally having the context of like Oh shit like this is why every kid likes game like this is why everybody plays this game. And it's I don't know I'm having a lot of fun. It is cool when you think about like kids being into into it that it is like more constructive than destructive like a lot of games are built around this idea of destroying lane things and I feel like minecraft seems more about creating which is cool. It is cool it is like a and also like no joke from a the like stem teaching perspective. Respective like I think I have a broader understanding of why it is a valuable tool for that when I was a little kid I we had Q.. Basic Aset Connor computer which I think everybody had if you had windows and it was just this like programming language. That wasn't used by a whole lot of stuff. But it taught you the basics as so you it was literally like the ten print. Hey what's up and then twenty Goto ten so it would just say. Hey what's up. What's up what's up? Yeah but I like learn how to use it. Ah but that's like all I had. I didn't know any visuals. I would just like text based choose your own adventure games and stuff like that finds something like this back then like I would have been so deep and so why do you think it's so addictive. Like why are people so like because of about loop that I described punditry get the would turn the what into an axe to make a stronger axe to cut down the tree. Faster repeat that Infinity Times like repeat that that one concept of getting stuff to create cool. Oh Shit but also to facilitate the easier or more productive getting a future stuff That loop is like really very very very compelling compelling pretty much instantly like as soon as you make like your first thing you have now seen. What is the the big thing like the Big Hook for this game and it will just sorta sink? Its teeth into you like right away. It's not like people play the game for a couple of hours and be like I don't get it and bounce off like I can get it and then it just keeps kind of revealing itself to you if you keep peeling back the layers. It's a cool game and I hope that the this world stays day's cool for a while and doesn't get completely. You know carpet bombed by some sad weirdo. I mean you could say that about the real world too you could say that about the real world too as true. Do you hear my second thing. Please my second thing is bloopers. We did it wrong. They fucked up a I. I you know when. DVD's I came out. Oh yeah this is the first thing I look for man as at gag reel they're gotta see that gag reel did you. I have to ask this my first exposure to bloopers because again like Rachel said one really a thing that you could get online stuff except at the end of Jackie Chan movies where you just see his real being horribly horribly injured but but we had a cassette tape a vhs cassette of Ms Three K.. bloopers that I feel like it was on the store and like everybody who bought. VHS is from them like at the at the whole set. And I watched that blue. I hate when I was six. I did not get most of it just like puppet a bit pieces fallen on. Yes literally just like Tom. Cruise eyeballs like falling out a Tom. cervo on serve yes have combined them into one. Well that's what we call all the ship in on the very active K.. On what's your user name on that Tom Tom. Well Tom Riddle the sixty nine. That's but it's the same when I use for the potter verse. There there is. There's actually there is a rich history of bloopers which I was delighted to see and speaking specifically about the US history of bloopers. I know there's a whole UK. Okay a story of bloopers as well except call him. ABC's WHA- Real cock-up up. The term blooper was popularized in the fifties and sixties in a series of albums produced by Kermit Schaefer entitled. Pardon my blooper Kermit Schaefer. uh-huh Mr Schaffer. I do not believe I will win. Put in that context. The word Blueberry Lubar becomes a foul thing it was a mixture of actual recordings of errors from TV and radio broadcasts and re-creations creations. So I guess they would take Documenta bloopers and recreate that. Oh my God Shaefer also transcribed many bloopers into a series of books that he published up until his death. Nineteen seventy-nine blooper. Books Siegel just open. The Buck can be like oh he meant to say this but then he didn't Johnny Carson and his belt came on what one and it was so it was so frigging. Funny you had you goes you had to be there in. The eighties is when Dick Clark revive the bloopers concept adversaries of specials on to NBC called. TV's censored bloopers. Do you remember this. Oh Yeah I remember those yeah It was a weekly series from nineteen. Thank eighty four to nineteen ninety two co hosted by Clark and Ed McMahon and then followed by more specials that appeared on ABC irregularly until two thousand four her. I remember just kind of turn on. TV like Oh. This is a surprise like there was no regular schedule for these specials however there is a early early the history of bloopers and this is this is delightful nineteen thirties radio broadcaster Harry von Zell. Who accidentally referred to then? US President Herbert Herbert Hoover as Hubert heaver during the introduction. Hoover heaver is so good. God I wish that was one of our presidents was Hubert keever. That should be your user name and your blooper forum the Ear Inn Hubert Heaver Gilbert heaver. Bet there's a bunch of them already. prolly a similar situation occurred decades later when the new president Gerald Ford was introduced as Gerald Smith which was the same name as an American fascist leader from nineteen. Thirty thirty yeah. That one's not so much of a gut buster kind of a rough blooper there but see. We became familiar with them. I at least I did. In the ninety sitcoms like fresh prince of bel-air and home home improvement. Yeah in the closing credits. Yeah and then I feel like it's taken on a completely different shape now with the Mostly like NBC. Sitcom Sitcom blooper. Reel find a lot of that on youtube so like parks and REC and the office friends arrested development varies one parks and correct blooper. Reel that I watch like semi annually like I watch it a lie. It's the one where Andy throws the briefcase. He likes the briefcase from like genealogy center or something like that and I'll tell them to throw it back and so he just literally launches it towards the back of the remnants smashes. A light switch breaks the lights in their room. And everybody's like Oh. That's not going to be easy to fix. Apparently I didn't know about this and you might cause your more more knowledgeable about about this culture Star Trek produced many famous outtakes which were shown at gatherings and have been extensively bootlegged. Oh no but they're not a you know that maybe you know your repeat well. I'm a big strong muscular jock this this was more of a common thing for like kind of cast party sake. Apparently there was a cash. Wrap Party for Peter. Your Jackson's Lord of the Rings and Party Goers had access to a gag reel which has never been released shit is very. There's a lot of like skull and bones like secret society shit around those movies. Yeah like all their little secret tattoos they did the fellowship all my tattoos. So fresh Yes a lot of a lot of movies used to do this. Just for kind of interpreting purposes the cast and crew and then. Now it's it's more of a thing you can see and then even like an animated movies. Now you'll see like a lot of like Pixar. Movies will do gag reels at the end those feels weird me out those little intentional. We'll have handed. I mean it's a computer animated product. It's not only intentional. It costs like three three hundred million dollars to make each like. It's it's it's weird little bit. There are a lot of websites to capture Movies movies where they maintain that the blooper reel is actually better than the film itself which happens a lot when you get like a lot of really funny comedians and really bad movies. Oh Yeah I mean there was the whole like all the jet appetite movies. Had I remember because I had like the DVD's of all of them. Because I was like obsessed in college where they would have the blue burials but they would also have the Line Rama's where it would be. Oh just over just improvised. Just same like thinker. Man has allowed. Anchorman Anchorman had so many of those that they made a second movie out. Take out of there. I forget like that that was a thing but like I remember. There was a version of that movie. You could buy at best buy that. It was literally just a completely different movie like it was just a I know that with like a completely different plotline I may be miss remembering this but like they had so much extra like Shit from that movie they made a whole nother. Movie Out of it Hey can I I tell you I'm GonNa Watch. I WANNA watch nothing but bloopers right now as you've got a you've you've stuck me with the bug. Here's some submissions. From our friends at home. Caroline says my wonderful thing. This week is adopting animals from a shelter. I volunteer with dogs at a local shelter and I got to see how they change get confident and learned to trust humans during their time time to shelter and how happy they are when they leave their new family bonus. My boyfriend and I just adopted a six year old perfect sought was soft orange boycott named Jarvis from the same shelter alter. That's so nice good cap. That's a good cat name and wish you the best. I wish you the best orange cat to. Hey good. 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Episode 1104 - Don Cheadle

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

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Episode 1104 - Don Cheadle

"Hey folks tomorrow March tenth Tuesday. My netflix stand up comedy special. And Times fun drops it premiers. It enters the world. It enters the league global cloud ecosystem. The churning ether. It will be out in it. Watch it stream it dig it. Can You dig it tomorrow? March tenth and Times. Fun My stand up special on net flicks enjoy all right. Let's do this. How are you what the fuck? What the fuck buddies. What the Fuck Knicks? What's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Wpf welcome to wait. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling almost one hundred percent. I don't know what to attribute that to. I told you last episode what was going on and what I was taken and how I was handling it today on the show Don cheadle Don cheadle is on the show today. Don cheadle WHO's I guess there's a new season of black Monday on showtime season. Two premiering March fifteenth. This Sunday ten PM. We talked about a lot of stuff. Good stories some great stories. Great Guy I like before. Chico came in I had a deep place. Because he's highly allergic. I was told there's been no cats out here but there was a pillow that was a pillow that Buster kind of made his own. That dander is it he dander. Is THE CAT. Dander IS HE BUSTER. Is it the pillow? That's on the seat of the chair over there. And so I- wash adn I didn't end up putting their anyways. They want anyone who don't want anyone's throat to close up but oddly no allergic problems but the fucking power went out man. The power went out in this place. And I don't know how everything didn't get lost because we were forty minutes in but I think it's because they have one of these towers that plug into you know we plug that into the wall and it's got like a built in battery trip going one of those things where it's like this giant thing the plug into like a power strip times twenty. But it's got a battery in it and I think that saved us. I think that. Say The cheadle Merrin discussion. I got a lot of tech in here. Man if I think about it I got the headphone amp got backup. I got the e PM. Six mixer here got a got that apple I nine backup drives so we don't lose anything. I got the Google Assistant to help me out with with stuff during the intros that that ought to be fun right. See what happens with that Tuesday night man? I'll be going to do the Bon Scott tribute where the fuck is that. Happening man the Avalon. I Dunno go to Dean del Rey Dot com the Bon Scott tribute. There's might be a couple of tickets left Let me ask. Hey Google Where is the Dean del Rey Bond Scott Tribute Dean del Rey's tribute to von Scott of ACDC comedy in rock show is located in the Avalon? Hollywood there you go my special N Times Fun Premieres Tomorrow and I guess maybe I am not as look. I'm nervous about it because I I'd like people to see it and I'd like a broad swath of people to see it put about two years of work into these special and weaving it together. So everything sort of connection hangs together like a singular piece. I recorded in a beautiful little theater downtown. La and I gotta be honest with you if if this doesn't provoke something in somebody in a large way. Then I quit. My relevance is in question not because I'm trying to just I watched it again and I realized like in my own sort of a smooth way. I kind of seek to push buttons on all levels in all directions but I. I'm doing it in a in a sweet way and I don't and stuff on this some of this shit in the specialist pretty pretty heavy. It's pretty over the top. The closer is a is almost operatic in its construction and I just I guess when you do something in this day and age like special you wanted to land man you know I just want it and I don't. I know you guys listen to me in. You know that it's going to be on by wanted to go out there and in a big way and we'll see what happens. I guess I've done all I can. I think I think I've done all I can. I think I'm going to ask a couple of my buddies to maybe put it out. Help me tweet it out there. I'd like I'd like to hear the opinion of Jason Cinnamon over there at the New York Times just to because it's not even that it's it's the promotion thing. I like critics to deal with it so I can get a sense of it. I respect intelligent critics. And if they are actual critics in not just reviewers. I can learn something about what I've done. I don't really know what I've done. Even when I sent a link to Brendan McDonald. The producer of this. Show my business partner. Who who is known me forever and see me through a lot of different material. His take on some of this stuff I did in the special was a way of looking at it that I hadn't looked at it. There was something that he saw and I think it's in there but I like the fact that I I put this stuff together. I put it out there and I really. I can't see it the way you guys to react to it. The way you guys reacted all I know is. I'm thrilled that it's going to be out there tomorrow. I'm excited to hear what people think about it. You Know Hey. Do you have a lawn? I do I have a lawn and you know what lawns can be pretty bad. If you're not treating them while they start to look like crap really fast but on the flip side. A lot of people just waste a lot of water trying to make their lawns. Look good. That's a problem too so stop wasting water and stops settling on ugly lawn with Scott's turf builder Thicker Lawn Scotts Turf Builder. Thicker law has everything you need to turn you on into thick green paradise that you deserve without all the extra waste with. Its THREE IN ONE SOLUTION. You can get up to fifty percent thicker lawn. Which is one application with Scott's turf builder Thicker Lawn you can finally get the thickest greenest lawn you've always wanted also with Scott's no-quibble money back guarantee if you're not satisfied you get your money back. Get thicker quicker and grab a bag today. Make your yard a Scots Yard. All right let's do come on man my specials on tomorrow. I can't be expected to keep my thoughts together. I made cabbage today. How do you make cabbage has a google? How do you make cabbage sure? I've got a recipe called southern cabbage recipe from divas can cook. Does that sound good? No I'd like Indian cabbage raspy. Okay I've got a recipe called Indian cabbage and Potato Curry Vegan. From the wholesome fork. Does that sound good? Yeah but I don't have time right now near problem All right so I didn't cabinet. Here's how I make it 'cause. Some people seem to like my recipes. Occasionally I take ahead of Purple Cabbage and walk and the walk on high heat before I lowered a little bit. I put Avocado oil. Then I throw I would say probably tablespoon black mustard seeds in there and when they start to pop fizzle I throw. In maybe a tablespoon and a half of cumin seeds whole cumin seeds and they brown a little bit. I throw the shredded cabbage into the WOK. Which is kind of unruly crank it down to about medium high and then try to toss that she hit the oh give it let it simmer and then toss it around and it'll start to shrink and shrink and he toss it and you toss it and you get an almost soft get that cabbage out. Denney the the purple cabbage and then I hit with probably a quarter cup plus a little more of apple cider vinegar and steam it out with the apple CIDER. Vinegar toss it around that and then cover it in turn the heat off so it gets all Soghi after its teams in the apple CIDER. Vinegar I make that like twice a week man. That's all will Marc Maron. Message for you. So let's more of these horrible text emails you want to. I think we've been having pretty good time with these high mark. I'm a personal trainer at a popular Jim in Philadelphia. I meet with new people of all walks of life every day and give them one free workout to check out our program. This soft young man was twenty minutes late to the workout then proceeded to send me a text clearly meant for his friend. I'm not losing sleep over this. But honestly he could have apologized. Alright and here. She sent the will screen shot of it. Hey ever swept to bid. I'm leaving my house now. Should be there in twenty trainer says okay. Thanks for letting me know And then the other the guy says Yo. My trainer this morning had the fattest ass thick White John. No titties and fat face. But her legs were like. Whoa and she goes wrong. Chat my friend and HE SENDS FOR THOSE HALF. Confu sad faces emojis because well. This is very embarrassing. Guy Talk hope you understand? And then she says That was a complete cop out and honestly angered me more than the content of the text. Were yeah well what happened. Did you stand up for yourself? This is the end of the email. You GotTa give me a follow up on that. That was it. You didn't I what you didn't say you know you know. Go Fuck Yourself. You shouldn't talk like that. I mean I guess men are GonNa talk but I mean wow that but that was the end of it okay all right. Fine that yeah. That was rude. I I would not have liked that text to come of me. This was a good one subject. Line Text Gone Wrong. Thanks to WT. F- Oh I'm involved. My friend Sabra and I are avid listeners. Our daughters or twelve and have grown up together so our families are close. One thing we bond over his WPF. In Fact Sabra bought me your book for Christmas a couple years back anyway. We always text each other if one of us has hurt a specific episode or tell each other not to miss episode XYZ last month. I sent you a text telling her to listen to the Terry crews interview. I love him in most of his films but thought the interview is riveting. What Life Right. She was surprised by my -dorsements said she would listen before we saw each other. Here's a text exchange. Sabra just listened so much in that one some crazy shit then me nothing like a porn addiction a football career and WM agent grabbing your crotch. Then I'm shopping at the container store and I get a call from my twelve year old daughters guitar teacher. He's like hey it's Kim. The Guitar Teacher Is Everything. Okay I just got a text review is todd. Okay her husband. Are you okay? I said Shit that was meant for someone else and then try to explain that it was about your show and guess which sounded like bullshit. And that it's Terry crews who had the porn addiction and and I was mortified. Thanks mark sees down the road gene. sorry Jean Pretty Funny I think. That's I think you can recover from that one though. I really do all right. Look folks I talked to Don cheeto about a lot of stuff. A lot of great stories. You know a guy who said that big career There's a lot to cover but we we landed on some really interesting stuff and I really. I was happy I was able to talk to him about his miles. Davis movie a miles ahead which I loved and And and we got off on a little bit of a talk about jazz so cheeto and I had a great time. And you're going to hear it right now. His show. You know the black Monday show on showtime starts. This Sunday March Fifteenth Season Two. That's the premier Sunday March. Fifteen at ten pm this is me talking to don cheadle. And what happens the cat my throat? Closing all star hacking and weasing. Yeah it's it's bad really. You wanted to kill me. You could throw me in a room. Full the cats and Oh my God and I probably wouldn't make it out and you've had the whole life just started noticing it like when I was in college. Oh because I don't have allergies. I don't think but the ones that do that. Like guys. Who have that. Nut Allergy rap. Yeah which is like and I started to become allergic to cut grass cut grass which was not a thing for my whole life. Have you avoid that? You don't you can't avoid it golf so often you just take the claritin or you take claratin before. Yeah and then you. After you're finished with around you kill yourself. Well logging golfing man. Let me see. Probably a now over twenty years. Now explain it to me because I know golfing am condescending about it. Good cool and I'm just sorta like if I can understand that it's meditative and it's a solo journey and you're out there with the cut grass and easing and your people in your friends. Usually yeah and it's a long time so it gives you a chance to talk. Hang out kind of enjoy space. Smoke a joint. Yeah yeah all right and sort of I mean the thing forgot for me is that it really It just reveals who you are to yourself. Rena way that it's a physical manifestation of things that you're going through and really to me and I think a lot of golfers would agree. Okay so what what have you? A- era guy over the last twenty years also played. You know a broad number of different types of people that I think would show you some at the different aspects of yourself But you think Gulford is. Simplicity earned all. It's so challenging. It's the hardest thing to do. It's the harvest. It's the hardest thing I've ever tried to do. Physically have you tried to like the solo climbing with no nope? I'm black so I don't even know what you're talking about. We do that kind of Shit. Hey I got an idea. Let's climb that mountain phase with nothing but chuck. Yeah that's cool not enough for you. We'll do that shit so yeah no. I haven't tried that. That would be infinitely harder golf. Yeah but but the physicality. I guess it's difficult is because in every other sport. I don't know if you play any sports. Any other sport hit all you hit a ball man. There's a physics that you get the trajectories coming and you get to move your body toward where the ball is coming in. There's a right there's an athleticism that arose you to sort of be in the space. A Golf Ball just sitting there. Not Crazy it's so focused. That's what I'm saying. Now hit that. Yeah it's stillness to you being still and now go from hitting that. Try to move it down the fairway. Try to put this in a hole that this big that's ultimately the goal right. So when you're able to do it. Yeah it's usually endure it well because you have been able to really sort of control all of those demons and all of that noise and all of that right. They show like the brainwaves for archers target shooters people that do that and you know Olympic. They did right target shooters and their brain waves. When they pull the trigger are like that in ours are usually the already Iran. Yeah on fire. Yeah so when you can get into. That meditated steig get. It feels great right and you finish and you look back and go. Oh Wow that was a few hours where I was just like that. That's why I completely appreciate that. But do you do you? Don't do any meditating You do that to spend a lot of time in this state. Yeah tries to. I've been told the need to meditate you. How long you've been doing that I've been doing that kind of started that in college to really a lot of stuff start from in College. I went to Cal Arts Californians through the in that was a very mind opening mind broadening experience era. This was eighty two eighty six like in. Where'd you come from I'd moved right from there to California from Denver Colorado where I live for the last seven years but I have Kansas City. I'm born in Kansas City. Kansas City Missouri. And so yeah. Are you a big Fan? You GotTa be right. I don't know much about it but I assume that you kind of lock into your states. So you're boring candidate And your family was just there. The whole time we moved around a lot why I was sort of an education. Brett wasn't a military brat. My father was chasing tenure chasing chasing degrees chasing scholarship. Money chasing the grants you know. What was his Focus you psychologist really psychology. So he sees patients he did. He's since retired in the house No no no. That's always the weird thing right offices in the back. 'cause my dad he did you know family and teams. Oh Okay so. Emily therapy so families in the community. Be Like yeah we understand. Your Dad. Yeah and it didn't work out well. I actually visited my dad at his office. One time which was right down the street and my school did recognize a kid that was coming out and he's like what are you doing here. Say don't ever come by the office unannounced. Jimmy is really fucked up. What did he tell you guys have their client come on give it up another nothing? So so so. That's what he was doing it so when you were growing up he was still getting the degree and ended up in Denver. Set up a practice. Refinishing set up a practice in Denver and Democrat. Oh man that's how I. It's hard to breathe their loved. It was amazing to be an athlete in play soccer in Denver or basketball soccer guy. Yeah now okay and then come to la come to another state and just be able to run forever and people were wounded. You're like why are you guys window? Lifetime of training women. Oxygen had no idea that it was actually going to be beneficial down the line. I mean I go back now and I can't read it all but when I was coming up it was very helped me a lot and so you grew so you're in Denver for like from. Hr At age spill so from sixth grade to senior six years for twelve years old to eighteen. And that. So that's kind of your state in a way I mean that's formative years you have a love for Colorado. I do have a love for Colorado my family. My desk lives there. My brother and sister still lived there. Yeah nieces nephews so so you go back. Yeah so did you act in in high school yes but another bug actually hit an elementary school. But I had a very good High School Teacher Kathy Davis and she introduced us to the Haugen and Stanislav Really. So that was the beginning of the mind boiling. Yeah Shit was the real shit. Yeah a real. She was really smart. She didn't she told me about CAL arts. I had no idea that you could actually pursue. You could go to school and study. What am I going to do now? She's like you know you can continue your education is. We're both your folks around this and would you were. They supportive of super supportive. They drove me to school and best benefit of having like Parents in education parents with broad understanding things where they're like. Yeah Yeah just do that. Probably a little nervous. Def definitely nervous especially for cal arts at that time. Yeah because it was wide open really a clothing optional pool real ed rooms. I imagine it's kind of like that. So how was the trip there? I don't know anything about. I don't know if I've talked to anybody who went to cal. I loved it. It was like a real old school hip school kind of deal. It was coming Golden Shipyard. It used to be shimmered. It was an art school specific. But is it a state school out of state parks here and You know it's just five days. It's I think. Now it's maybe a little broaden but it was just acting dance Visual Arts animation was part of the film school on Music. The music was huge there. It's in a it's in Saugus for a right across from magic mountain really. Yeah while so it's like out there and it's a conservator and yeah you're out there like there's nothing else happening or wasn't definitely when I was there it's built up a little more now but when I was there that was it an answer. You just went for acting so I imagine it's a bunch of fairly serious experimenting people. Yeah Yeah in a very conservatory sort of setting and so each year what you how does it work? What's what's the structure while you have classes in movement right in voice and speech turn then. You have your studio time which is blocked out of the day. Then you have to do in your plays you ask putting those up and then you have to work work. The plays do the technical stuff and the day went from the end. We had Taichi which was amazing. So I learned Tai Chi Chi's you. She was a requirement it was a it was the first year students. So that's that kind of was the beginning of the the mind. Open all of it. Yeah the beginning of all of it so then. Mushrooms mushroom the. Are you one of those guys that does those yearly no? I haven't done that in a long time. I'm kind of in like I. I'd like to do that again. They do kind of like a Real Madrid. Dosing stuff is yeah. I don't know man you know I'm a sober guy so for me it's like I don't know I just don't put any of it in you know like because I got the kind of brain where it's like. Well there's a little bit. Well let's keep going see what happens. Stop here with a little bit. Kinda WanNa feel something and hendry achieve so Tai Chi. Do you still do that. Yeah really So between Golf Taichi. Meditation you Pretty Level Mandy. I think I've pretty level I think I'm one of the most level dude. I know so when you so okay so in college so the moving thing and you did did you do like. Was it like a classical? Did you owe everything fencing and stuff? We did stage combat and we did everything I mean. We're doing Shakespeare William Moliere. We're doing August Wilson. We're doing I thought Gar doing everything because I was thinking about the about the roles like you know when when you say like golf sort of really shows you who you are but like the. There's you've stepped into some. I have to assume this just kind of I realized that yesterday. Actually I talk to Tandy Newton Yeah anything and we were talking about that role In in westworld being in informing her about you know who she is and what her struggles are fighting. A you know what the character was perfect for because they helped her move through thing did you. Did you find that. Because I don't know that I've talked to actors about that specifically the the the growth of south through the role I think so I mean if you if you take it seriously yeah really trying to authentically. Come from a place where you can live in this person. That's what you do. You have to find the place where you in person meet. Thank you already kind of doing right. That show yeah. You have to really get their meet. That person halfway. Yeah when you're touching that stuff you cannot help but bring up your stuff right and right now. You have to kind of filter through and go. Well I don't need that. Get rid of that. Let's not use that. That's me that this right but you have to keep. I think you know true to those things that are motivating you and keep touching that yes. It's a conscious thing though where you're like. Oh that was me because you can slip into it though. I like when you're acting like that. That lasts take was me while I think by the time you're actually doing it. Hopefully throughout and script long enough you've worked on it and you've kind of been able to have it be mostly not you how much you how much you read the script before you get in on. Yeah the whole script to just pieces. No the really. I always find something new every time. I read this group really. Yeah that's what can we talk about like trying to figure out how to get into this? But I I fucking love. Your Miles Davis moved. No thank you I loved it and and I think twice and because I don't eat. It was one of those movies that you know. It's sort on you to figure out what's he trying to do here? What's going and it seemed to me that it was sort of a meditation on the man himself right. So is this sort of like. This is a an impression man right so you got you. You've run the whole arc of the miles thing you've got miles who is bordering on a comedic character in the main guy that you've got the miles that you may You know he's. He's over the top on drugs. Fashion wise isolated and funny. He's genuinely funny but maybe not on purpose but and then all of a sudden the young miles shows up in the form of that and then he sort of kind of tried to assess like you know. What's the riff that got him from there to here? Yes right yes what what drove you like? What's your relationship with that? Do well this. Was You know. I grew up listening to his music. You know 'cause you're still by my parents. Yeah digging through their albums and finding porgy and bess. Oh my God what is this? And then that leading metoo you know kind of blue and right then just opening it up to cannonball to all of the players that's where it started when I was in fifth or sixth grade because I'm like I've in the last few years I started getting into those guys in that in that trip. You know and try to sort of wrap my brain around jazz without really having a an essential understanding of music theory or anything but you know you got a brain for jazz. You don't Right he's GonNa lock in or it's GonNa make you go. It's making me. Yes exactly people do tend to get anxious. Yeah he's around for me. It's almost like Ritalin you know it goes on and I'm like Oh oh yeah right so when when entering and I know this is probably an old News free but like you know to take on that that tha the subject of that guy. I mean what was the spark? Well I was. I wasn't gunning for that. You know I know a lot of times. That people are asked actors are asked. There's some guy that you're trying to play somewhere. You Really WanNa do some project that you can't you're dying to do. He was not on my radar Other than being a musician that I was in love with it. Who's music? I had grown up right But it kept bubbling up at being put in front of me in different ways. Really people mentioning it going eating what you should do and just out of nowhere just kind of out of nowhere a bunch of times and then I was working with another a couple riders on another project trying to get done and Had auditioned for something in the writers. The writers mentioned it and they said Oh. We're working on this with the family. we're actually trying to write this with the family and my Davis bio-pic and you should think about doing it and I was like. I don't like bio pics do cradle-to-grave kind of by. That's just kinda corner. I don't WanNa do that. It's hard to do. You can take three minutes in each. It's weird I missed it. I just active in Retha Franklin one but it was smart because they went front they it ends in seventy two and that's the smart way to just take that take a moment explode. The moment goes to and that's why I was trying to do with the movie like take this two days and time where he's stuck in this place am I gonNA. Is he ever going to get out of this place so I I was actually watching? The Rock and Roll Hall of fame and Mas was inducted in the rock and Roll Hall of fame his nephew. Vince Wilburn who's the producers on the thing interviewed necessity ever going to a movie about his life and he said Yeah Don cheadle is going to plan but you had no idea. No I wasn't GonNa for that and then it started coming in and people started. It started. Well what are you going to do? How are you going to say? I'm not I'M NOT He just made proclamation he. I haven't even met him or talked him. Yeah so then we met and got together and they sort of pitch their ideas for the movie and they were all kind of standard here. Bio-pics just wasn't interested right and by the time I was almost at my house. They're and meeting. I thought we'll nobody's going to do it the way I wanna do it unless I do it. Yeah and I called him back and he was saying I was about to call you and say nobody can do the thing that you're talking about doing unless you do it. And then a short ten years later it happened. Now is the family on board absolutely. Oh they dug it and what was I mean? I'm not saying there was a slam dunk. They were like in. I mean it was definitely a come to Jesus come to Don's trailer on House allies set and be like Yo what after they saw the script. I mean they were going. What is this GONNA BE? We're really trying to do. And how can you not include this? And how can you not include that includes that and it was like I get it and this is your your uncle your father this is you know. I ultimately want you guys to be down with this tape right. And if you're not that's fine walkaway from we don't have to do it right. I said but I don't think that any movie is going to be his legacy. Any move is going to be in his library. He is legacy is very difficult character. I'm saying I wanted the music and the expression like just exactly how you laid it out. It was my intention with it. I said I want to make a movie in the spirit of Miles Davis. I WanNa make a movie. That feels like him. Not just a movie. That's about what he did. Abcd this is what it feels like to be in that expression. That's what I'm trying to do that. Era that you picked the best. Because it's I jacked up out of his mind. He may never come. You may never play and he cannot play. Vince said the first time after that period. Yeah when he heard play that scene at the end when he's playing he said he couldn't produce sound and he said it he just cried like a baby In malls looked at him. Like don't fucking cry. You know like. Don't pity me right. And what what was the record that we pulled him out of the man with the Horn. That was his first thing out and then he went on that. We want miles tour. That's when I actually saw mouths I also how the hat crazy salmon red rocks so that was when the horn was way out. There he added kind of you know who's fucking with it with the laying down the wall off but I mean the Wa wa. He'd introduced the right but he was. It was it was banned. That was just Mike Stern and Harvey Mason and another Bill Evans. Not that Bill Evans. But the bill in played was Marcus. Allen Marcus Miller Miller not yeah yeah I saw. Marcus Miller do An evening of miles at Lincoln Center recently of Electric Miles. It's pretty great. That's pretty great. Yeah he markets. Were very close collaborators. Yeah in two. I don't see a lot of a lot of the a lot of jazz but what I love about A. Watching jazz like if you get a bunch of guys if they're and they're doing this thing and you got a few different warren players and they're laying down the base of of of miles. Riff is that like. There's no other music where doodle step up and do his thing and get out. They're standing around kind of looking at their horn. It is in outer space. And they're kind of like you know fucking around kind of like that's so miles. Esq He used to let Coltrane's Solo for ten minutes. Yeah yeah and they were like. Why are you letting this go? Why are you letting him do that? Cosby? He's looking for something searching for something. Let me go man. Oh my God. It's so wild. 'cause I've been listening to lately. I mean that's but he did get so far out there. Yes he did right. Yeah 'cause I never put it together. Loneliest monk I think really opened him up he said Momma started it but when you start playing when monk just let him go like bananas. It's so weird. Because he he stopped a dope early on like Coltrane did like you know early. He's with between him and miles and miles kicked him out of his for Dope Brighton. Yeah 'cause I watched that documentary and then and then he goes on to sort of like all right. If there's no dope and I gotTA GET THEIR SPIRIT. I'm going way Alan one right and some of that. Some of the the concert footage of him towards the end of his life he was. It's out there man like you really gotta be on board to hold onto that. I mean in the amount of music that these guys have you know the amount of its classical music on the fly right. I mean I like being able to. Yeah play these changes in you know milliseconds crazy and bring all of that music in quoting classical. They can quote classical stuff playing. Got All the classical shit. I grew up plan right. Yeah that's that's how I learned. I know yeah yes because some people that when I was doing this new now when you talk about miles they don't know miles pre the electric stuff didn't know the BEBOP. She didn't have any of that stuff in there. Other guys who like. That's when we stopped when he went electric. That's when we got on the bus So it's a very bifurcated sometime sort of miles fan base out there. It's a lot of death. Metal dudes nodia quote miles. Sure no shit. Yeah I've been that moment on the electric and I really like Mazda so when you when you're out here cal art and your bone your mind. You're learning how to you know. Stage Combat Tai Chi Mushrooms. And you knew about Huda Haagen going in but was there a WHO is the teacher? There was the basis of your acting education. And all of the instructors there. Did you did both a lot of the instructors would actually direct as well okay Everyone was involved. Owns involve real conservative culture. Stormont Libby apple is still out there. No do you ever. I'm on the board so I go okay but I loved the school. I love the conservatory. Nature of it. I love the just being completely consumed by you know all the on no other you need to learn anything I mean. I wish I had taken advantage of everything that the school had offer. Not there was a ton of time to do it. But you know and not that even at that time that they have any real interdisciplinary sort of programs. Everyone was sort of balkanize known thing that they did right but it would have been great. It would have been great to go back there and really get into the music program you know. They have a world music festival every year. That's like mind blowing. Yeah I know in dance. School is amazing. While Alvin Ailey comes through and you just you just. There's so many things happening at that school at any given moment. I don't take in enough dance. Do you not enough. No but I take in some. Yeah I don't eat a whole other world all these things are this other world but it's it's so vital and make when you watch you get you don't even know why you get moved. Yeah because I think at that level when you see when you see professionals doing it at that level. It's all kind of the same thing by any means. I'm not saying that visual artists things dancing. Yeah Sendings Acting. But when people are at their highest sort of you know the apotheosis of whatever they're just translates you just there's that they've done the work. The paid the dues and now they are an instrument of whatever it is they are doing and they're controlling it to you. Exactly you can feel it right exactly. Yeah Yeah Man. I mean that's something to be said about that because there's a lot of fucking amateurs around one hundred. Let's name them one by one startling along hold on let me just open twitter so when once you finish school out there you just come to La. Yup I graduated in eighty six. I was working. I started working in eighty-five though at are actually gotten a gig before. I got out of school how that happened if someone come looking. It happened because my classmate second year Jesse Borrego who was on fame and he got. Tv's fame the TV show. I don't fame because he went to an open call and about three thousand people. They picked him in Nealon. Nothing alongside near People's And we took him to the audition. We drove we all went. You're all going to bum rush it. We're like okay. Let's do this so we all went down and Jesse was like Don Sing. I don't dance I. You're better singer singing dance and I dance I. I didn't get it but he he so we get back to cal arts as I had to go all right. Oh no pretty good. So the next morning we wake and his pictures on the news. They have polaroid of in on the news. We're looking for this guy because he didn't put his Allie. Jessie name first name. So we class like your picture was on the news. I yeah he's like yeah right note. Someone's look they're looking for you on the news so he finally our phones. Raw Suite mates. Yeah the phone rings pick it up. He's like yeah okay. Cool hangs up and I got the job. Wow you got. What job is like fame. I got the job. Are you serious? Oh man so we he goes. Yeah I gotta go down and sign papers and the media agent and I guess it's on so we have to go to class and we're standing class doing are like Looking at each other like why are we doing? He's just got he's just bounce out. Yeah and so he left and he but he still didn't have a never riot so we're still all of us. Were Very Ed's my my friends at school. All of we were really really tight and Kyle in anywhere everywhere together. But it's interesting there. Is that moment of sort of like you know that's what you WANNA do. You know he got the job and you're doing your training but but there was never any in your mind. There was never anything like a lofty pursuit. Tv A theater guy. Oh Yeah Devin I mean we and the school discouraged it. I think rightly so during they did not want you going down to la two traditions. Look audition that's why they built the school out here in Saugus. Don't go down. Yeah yeah but no yeah absolutely. I'll never do commercial on TV. I wanted to theater and so yeah and I did. I mean I. I used to get when I first met when I had agents who were his agents on because when they met us they were like you guys are all great. What is the jump at that story? So we took him down here. He we went to meet an agent agent. Wasn't there when at the appointment. Time so we were leaving as we were leaving he nine another friend of mine. Patrick where like you know. Fake fighting in the in the court doing like our sage combat around fountains and nine thousand sunset. And she's like banging on the window. You know the graduation comes down and because I think because she came down she was outside and she was like kind of in our environment and how we were. We weren't all tight how we would have all been probably nervous so she showed up and you guys are out you guys you. This is a vibe. You guys are great. I WanNa Represent. All of you know shit like nothing. Yeah so I went back to school Jesse went and did the show and they shot in New York for a summer and I was in New York that same summer. Working at a camp in scarsdale working at like a kids. Camp Counselor at kids can't drama teaching. No just they can't count. How the hell that happened. My friends like I get you a camp counselor Gig in New York you want to spend the summer New York. Sure Jewish camp. No I don't think it was use camp okay. Although they did call me but so I saw him in New York near. You haven't called K. You haven't called our agent and she's been trying to put you in stuff. I didn't think she was serious. He goes yes she was serious. So I'll call her when I get back to La. So I was just sort of her pocket. Client me and a couple other people were just start sending us out and then we started getting but you didn't do commercials. Is that what you're gonNA say the first commercial I ever got an? At and T. Computer And it was one where a kid was on the phone and his parents call these college and he's frantically searching around and they're going. How's it going in school? And he's acting like they can't hear them because the connection is bad and he's like oh you can hear me and that was. At and T. Commercial. So my boom. I booked it. I'm headed out to go shoot it. The pay phone in the lobby of the dorm rings. Yeah which could be for anybody in the entire dorm. Have this sick for me. Yeah so pick up the phone and it's my agencies like Oh so glad you answer. I said what she goes. They don't WanNa use you for the commercial. I said why not she goes they don't want to portray a black kid is failing out of school said so they're gonNA fire the Black Kid. I understand. It seems kind of counter intuitive. They're trying to hurt black people. This black people but that was the first was the first commercial I got and then I never did commercial. Mainly weird have things if shifted around people's of perception of selling out. Yeah it's strange because I think I don't know I think we're roughly the same age. Probably maybe fifty six. But there's always time as as as a talented artist or whatever early on like fucking shit man hope for Sean Brock. All the way Selena. But now it's like people fucking do anything as long as they look all right. Yeah right you if they can transcend the bullshit their game to do whatever. I'm not sure exactly when that happened but it happened. I think the sort of being platform agnostic helped all of that stuff. Movie Actors in TV shows one second true that they're like oh so. Can you remember when stars would sneak off to Japan absolutely to commercial and you'd see these Weird Commercials Big Movie Stars Selling Yogurt? Yea Fuck just made a billion dollars band. Would you do here hell no no? There's no place to hide now. Yeah can't know exactly. So what was the first role? The first role I ever got was to play Juicy Burger worker. Oh in the movie moving violations. Oh Juicy Burger Juicy Burger worker Burke Juicy Burger Work and see that movie you did and I'm sorry man I I was going to go back and watch all your movies. This was okay. Fuck you podcast. I'll watch it now together. Lease we'll watch you. Don't watch that movie. You're probably can you watch it. No I don't watch anything ever I mean if I have to look at cuts and things like that but I don't I don't enjoy it now. Does it make you feel? Are you the kind of guy that like you watch yourself and you feel you can go back into that moment? And then you re judged the moment Yes so it's not just a general like I could just sort of like why they picked that all of that but you were in colors was was that like that was it was. I can't remember the the role that wasn't huge rocket. One of the gang guys. Yeah and that was Dennis Hobby was pivotal pivotal gang. Yes okay but Dennis Hopper. Yeah Dennis Hopper directed he did. I remember being very excited. Haskell Wexler shot at wow and I remember being very excited to see a hopper direct again. Do you work in with pen uh-huh and you've got to now when you're like that he's like how he's my age not that older this but he was the right time we know and we were because he was in character all the time. There had been some things. We're like Sean a rough. The dude up for real kind of onset in character Eh needed done. And he and Robert. There was a scene where my friend is played. High top wind plummer played high top. They get a fight and there was some Real Shit. They have in the fight. We were just waiting for that to happen because we were just GonNa all jump to have a really we were like. Oh it's on at this do does it because like three of my friends who are in the movie. Fuck this dude up with so all in character the show. We're going to be like wearing character to as method Ju- Eric beat Shit character. Was there a learning curve for you like nervous about it working with directors like you know? I was working with the gangbangers worried about the director. An actor I was like I'm wondering when gangbangers for real gang members like that would really gang bang on you for real so the the user will do. I remember one of one of the guys in my in. My gang name was j bone. I don't know if Jeffrey still around I hope he is. But the first day we are getting my wardrobe. I'm sitting out on this bench. We'd like just get ready getting dressed. Do this big group seen some sitting by myself just trying to be in character trying to figure this shit out and I see this dude across the parking lot and looks at me and I looked at him and he looks at me. Like oh you're going to. You're going to stay romy. And he walks across the parking lot staring at me and I'm like Oh this is a real and I'm supposed to be the head of the gang. I can't really punk out right now. This is this is the moment that's really gonna be telling about. This is gonna go so he walks all the way up to curves. I was like was he was from. I said Oh I'm an I'm an actor. I'm not a gay man and he's like Oh yes I gaze is and see what the fuck was up. You walked away as I thought they would day one so we have seen this day so then we have seen in the van. Where I'm supposed to tell him. We do a drive by on his blood. There are who ran the backups. To tell them to shut the fuck up. We're getting ready to do this thing. Yeah so we've heard sit on my shut the fuck up so late in the morning. It's lay we're punched tired. WanNa go home. It's where we are though we're using this gang that we're using. We're in another gangs neighborhood. It's a whole thing off. The locations people had no sensitivity to where we were crossing lined. None of that shit was. Do you find that. That's just a question about the drug. Do you think hopper was encouraging the candles? Oh hell no no. Nobody really wants. We realized it was like. Oh this is beef. This can really be a problem. What'S WE IN DENVER LINES AREA? We not supposed to be out here right now so hope so anyway. We're doing the scene and I tell him to shut the fuck up and then he starts laughing. He's like shut. The May south is foot. Shut the fuck up seigel bitch sure to work Nigga please and so. I was like no real. Jay Won't shut the fuck up because we have to do this was like what and he leans. He's in the back seat New Orleans up in my areas. Like I'll smoke you in this car right now because they could give a fuck about this movie. Kill you right now. And he and I'm like I know he's good for it. I know he's he probably would do it right. Everybody gets quiet in the comic. Oh man my gentle i. It's my line on a set your in a movie. I have to say this. He's saying again. See what happened? I dare you negotiating you like this. I have to say about so. He goes back action. Kurt Don what's up? You didn't save him line. I'm like no. It's okay go back. He's laughing he's like years right. You better not say it. Say it so we do it. We're Tom and I kind of get it out. He doesn't say anything. These cars punk motherfucker. There'd be off the set before I get out of my costume. God Damn get killed on a movies movies. I'M GONNA lose my life saying line that I have to say in the movie so I love to set but after that I think because I said it yeah he was like. Oh yeah all right man. He's had swept me and then another day he takes my call sheet. Let me see. You cautioned him car seat. He starts walking toward this alley. Like what are you going? Jim kind gesture like follow me. I'm like Oh man. It's the Okeydoke is about to go down and Allie Allie. And there's this older black lady standing there dressed like in church clothes and everything he's like my mom's man. Oh Hello MS meets. You just wanted. You'd be my mom's GONNA GET FORGOTTEN ACHING. Just say commitment. Everything's gotta be hard. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah so that's that's an interesting entry trial by fire. Yeah and then you you you just kept going man and so Wendy. I think there was a point was where everybody knew who you were. Was that from Devon boudreaux's. I don't know if that's happened yet. I still rolled around pretty incognito. That's a good thing. No I love it man hitting me just to be able to work like you do. Have the respect that you do. Okay Shit. We're supposed to change the subject. Well we just if everybody listening we just went black but not all of it went black. It was the light because it was still up and going well for some reason the computer and she it was still on. But the Mike's went down the lights went off. Yeah but the box is in here. That some weird shit politics guys. So you're talking about that assigned. We talked we talked about on incognito able to have a life. Maybe that's the word you're not supposed to say I would say maybe my phone. I don't even know what my phone does. Shut up everything he ever turn on Syria. And you don't know it talk to you know just to shut the lights off in every house but no but that's a that's a but I think that because I actually did watch the other night Because I like people I've talked to though I thought was the the first time I remember that dude right. I think I think that's I think people said that. I think boogie nights there were sort of. Yeah yeah things kind of in a row and depending on who you were you know for some. It was picket fences for some people. It was never you see that was the other thing too like you'll do. Tv You don't. It's like right from the beginning back and forth. Whatever comes if the roles good you'll take exactly like I was saying earlier. I used to drive my agents when I realized I had agents because the first few years that I was in. La during pilot season. I left to go do theater and they were like what are you doing? Is the height of when we can get you a GIG. I was like great role. Where was it in this play while I was working a lot with Join Colitis near in pork at the Guthrie with her worked at the public worked at at the Goodman in Chicago so being a theater baby these were all sort of the crown jewels of places that are wanted to work. Yeah as an actor sound like I'm not going to say no to going to work at the public right to maybe get a pilot on some show that it's probably going to be shitty. Isn't that true though? Like isn't that weird once? You realize that you're going to go out and read with these pilots and you're GONNA go spend five minutes in a room with a bunch of suits and then you're gonNA have to go back again. Three or four times for three weeks and then not get something where you can be on stage doing the thing that I love him. Yeah I was like I don't that doesn't make sense to me. They're like well. This is the grind. This is what it is. You have to do that as well. I'll get to it. I don't think Hollywood going anywhere be back in three months but when I go do this you remember what play with did cymbeline at the public. 'tis pity she's a whore at the goodman three. Did a a show called Liaoning Lens? Bhushan play yeah So so you were really doing it. Oh Yeah Yeah I worked a bunch at another small theater in. Minneapolis called mixed blood. They loved so I just kept going back there and doing stuff MIA In all during the busy busy season but I drive across dry from here to Minneapolis by myself. Another really sort of Solo journey this like I. I just love every aspect of that that time of my life. Yeah they have to make any money you know if I made five hundred dollars a week. I was like that's good. What's the what's Nice? I think that's probably why you're the actor. You are in the sense that like you know. You didn't pull your brain with the sort of like putting the ambition over the craft. Do you know what I mean like just sort of like fuck. I'll take. Which is workman like you really appreciate it now. I think it seems like your character in the censor who you are. It's like with golf. You know to to to to focus on like I'm GonNa drive out working thing. I'm on my own looking at stuff going to show me do you. When you go to the theater for the first time you go walk around the stage. It's the best needs to pass the best when I do. Stand up man like the soundcheck when he just walked out. Sometimes I'll have them like play some music on the system and just sit there by myself and listen to the music. No there's nothing like theater. There's nothing like the magic happens in the best but boogie nights like you. Bring a boogie nights in that moment. Where you're sitting there with James on. That's a great. That's a great moment. That was a great directing moment for Paul. Oh Yeah Yeah. Because he's like okay so he goes in this spot he goes all right. So you're just kind of sitting there just like out of your element like second guessing. This look because I just I want you to just don't do anything. Just do nothing and I was like okay so I do it. And he goes cuts comes over. Does that take you a kind of doing nothing? Yeah I just want nothing worked just a blank just want you to be nothing? Just not why I was like being. Nothing's like yeah just nothing. So he walks off. I'm going be nothing well. He took him up being nothing. I'm sitting there trying to figure out what that means cut. Thank you got it like. Oh you little masters and they tell it read through the coin read like yeah exactly. There's just and it was. It was so like it was bad. Oh yeah like us that more. You're like this guy has no no idea that you really thought that that's what you should wear. You really thought that's what you should wear. I know you're you know what this one book the phone we were talking about coming over it. I just said is after the Christmas lights. Yeah yeah another horrible moment. Yeah Yeah I just worked with that guy that dude who shoots who starts it all off the dude sitting at the counter who pulls a gun and shoots the guy it Black Monday funny. Oh you did yeah. He's he's a big stunt. Oh those guys are wild. I've interviewed a couple of them. Yeah Yeah but like Paul Thomas Anderson like I've interviewed that do it's so funny man because he's great he's great but like you know. I never heard him talk. I didn't know who he was and I knew he was. I loved his movies. I just had this idea that he was like brooding dark genius. But he says Valley goofball. Yeah Yeah He. I couldn't believe it. No he's he's amazing and Carl introduced him to me call Franklin who directed Della Blue Dress and he was in that because that year I think I did three or four. I may have made in three or four movies. I don't remember that Rosewood that same year and and boogie nights and something else that was that that year I think was sort of a watershed I just agents must have been happy that you locked into that. Shit doing picket fences for a year for three years before that and I can quit the show. Because I didn't like the show. They were not happy about that. You're creating a series that you're Ogden job I was like I don't dig it. I just think there's something else someone to do. I could be here for the rest of my life. I don't want to do this right well. I'm the twelfth person in the cast which means a heart of the movie which a hard of the show with you. Don't make me the heart of the show. I hate that. Yeah and secondly. I'm the dude that SORTA like there'd be so many days where they just wouldn't get to me and I had sat in the trailer for that the well ours just wanting to blow my head of thank God. I was writing killed. So it's weird you you you you go inward with the anger. I just get mad at whoever the the fucking thirty you know. Whoever is taking up the time that director like what the fuck is happening in the drudge is like I don't know I'm here I'll not I won't be your next week. They just brought me into this year. We're trying to get lit. Talk to the David. I would just write so I wrote a play and I just spent the time writing so really serve the producer your poison so I mean I did that one at that. Which one was that? I was playing by whatever I called. Groomed we actually perform it at the John Anson Ford Theater. It was a staged reading. It turned into a play because the actors decided like no. We're GONNA actually get off book and do this like it was not the place once the lead actor did it. Yeah tennis threw down the Gauntlet. Then all the other actors like well we're not gonNa not if he's not on book we're not going to be on. Booking egos lighting was like well if they're going to do all that I'm going to throw some gels in the shit and some go bows and I was like well. I'm going to build a set. You back her into play. Wow which was really great. That must have been wild. Watch was wild so. I mean 'cause all that stuff kind of informs right because I mean like when he did the miles movie. I don't know how much other ones you directed before that. But that thing got a full vision you know what I mean like you know. You hired the right folks. You knew what you wanted to see. Whoever your DP was in the deck burn fucking nailed? It is his own world. Yeah you know slightly heightened yet what's going on exactly but So yeah you're busy Rosewood. Boogie nights at a site. Ilya close to each other right. The rat pack. Sammy Davis what compelled you to do that. Movie the same thing that compels me to do any of them. The part was great. I liked the part. I liked the script the cast. That was another interesting. I don't know if I have any that aren't interesting but that one. I didn't I was offered the part. And they have. The script had never really dealt with. Sammy's own awareness of the racism. It just sort of glossed over there. I was like you can't have him not be aware of not just the racism that exists outside. But what he's dealing with with his own friends inside the rat. Pack you know the kind of ribbing that they do in the kind of ways that they talk shit about him. It's like was nowhere in script semi felt about that. And you read his autobiography. And it's nowhere in that he never really talks about what. What was the assumption? I I don't I'm he has to when I watched the routine. I'm looking at him like Nah. Come on you can't be a black man up there and then picking you up and talking about this being a word from the ACP. You're not feeling some kind of way about it. So can we not do that joke tonight you know? Can we ride? Look people in the audience like you. Pick me up and especially the time you know. 'cause she was changing right absolutely and he was at the sharp. You know edge of the beer but so I said I kinda don't this has to be a part of the script or I don't I don't WanNa do. This has to be in there so it wasn't addressed. It wasn't addressed in like two weeks before I got to draft and it was in there. I said okay. I'll do it and they're like great. Now you have to do a gun less gun twirling lessons and drum lessons trumpet lessons tap lessons. You have to sing on this thing. I was like Oh Shit. I got two weeks to like get ready for this switch. Holy Shit Yeah. It was Cram Cram Cram but I had the best teach savion. Glover was my tablets. Really Yeah then. Can you do it. I could do it when I needed to for that. Yeah isn't that weird? When you've got that you can focus your talent. That's right that we learned in school. That's right into that like right and let's go. Yeah and it shows up and you'll do it and then two weeks later you. I couldn't yeah wouldn't suggest yes. Exactly what would you come out of that with for yourself? Just a real appreciation of his talent. Oh Yeah Right. And how amazing just being able to dig into all of his stuff you know doing the research and just let you talk about a talent right everything everything. It's crazy high level. Yeah it's really like a gifted dude and hear them talk about likes Sinatra whenever he would introduce he's like I'm about to bring this kid on stage and he's GonNa you could just see. He's like this kid. I can sing like you. Don't know shit about singing. You gotta listen to this kid. He's GonNa hit some notes that are GonNa make you just what's interesting. No wake when you really look at all those guys that there was a sort of a not one not to them but they were so dug into their personalities that they were confining. Where like Sammy was you know he was Sammy? But it didn't confine him in any way saying or dance or drama. Whatever the be funny I mean we're Kinda sorta like you had to. I mean I think that something to that for that era for your black men. A black woman especially You know you had to be ten times as talented anybody else. You're saying you had to be able to do everything. Get half as far as those guys right and still be sort of like pigeonholed in a racist way. Yeah you're still not going to get a headache it but he also I take the joke. That's what I'm saying. That's what I wanted to be. That's what wasn't in this ultimate. What it turned out to be is just a moment. I said we need. Can I just have a moment where they can make the joke? And I'm laughing and then turn around and just put a camera behind me to see how I really feel and then come back for the mask on again and they did it. Yeah we did. It sounds like just need stuff like that to show that this person is not completely obtuse. Right doesn't understand what he has the FAUSTIAN deal. He has made right to be able to do this and open the door for other people behind him which is absolutely what he did But that means you're gonNA take the brunt of it right. Yeah I mean it's it's it's been a Faustian deal still for sure. Yeah I forgot. You're in traffic as great as great and bow worth e- work with that baby fella. Yeah that do. That must've been wild. He seems like a very wild interesting very interesting too and we shot that for a year. I have an aunt for a year. He Means Business Games when he decided to direct something. Like it's not and nobody can tell them shit and his deal specifically at that time and it was maybe a poison pill left by the last The Guy who ran twentieth at that time he had a deal that he just had to write a treatment. Yeah and turn it in. Yeah you can do whatever you want it. Oh I think they sort of left it really warrant eight. Yeah and they used to call me. Ask Me what was going on because when the suits would show up on set warm just stop. He just wouldn't shoot really standard. They're like what are you working on some stuff? Wow so you're gonNA shoot. He's like not no and he didn't care he would just stand around until they left and as soon as they left without working again. It's so funny. I guess that's earned that he's Hollywood man. He was there at the beginning of new thing. There's so many things that you realize that. Actually you can do whatever you want a lot of times. People don't have the balls to do. Stop me but yeah. I thought that movie was good so I definitely felt the point you know. Yeah so being part of these franchises I mean is there. I mean it seems like the Ocean sings fun a lot of they all. Everybody seems to be having a home. People like Ocean's twelve is one of the movies that people will just come up to me my face. That gotTA hated that second. That one sucked. Yeah like okay cool. Well they watch whatever you're doing your job and like critique don't think they're going to they don't look at it in the same way you look like they're just. I don't know why people think they can do that. But they think you must feel the same way or that you have some distance from it or whatever. I don't give a shit what you think right or not a real thing. You're sort of a prop that. Yeah yeah yeah stuff and walk around but that that was Jerry Weintraub bless. His soul was You know produce that one really like old Hollywood and we just were treated amazingly and everybody had their families over. Nice was nice to be able to have that experience. And we were really sort of cordoned off. I mean you know. Paparazzi has an Italian word. We were in Italy and they had to kind of give us an entire floor where nobody could come and they had the roof and they would put a there was a bar up there and there's a real first-class Hollywood treatment. Yeah Nice it was great and what about these marvel movies? They're fun to different ways. Yeah yeah it's a different. It's completely different. Obviously protect Nicole. And did you see that coming like hell? No I mean it's crazy. I mean like you're in. You're one of the guys that happened and it's a great thing right. Yeah I don't watch him and I've been critical of them because not my thing. Yeah but so. I haven't really seen any of them but it seems like the people that are in them. It's like why the fuck yeah I mean and it's again it's one of those things where we all you know. We all really vibe each other and have a great time around one another and there's so many of us you know it's like it's like being a troop it's it is it's great theater troupe. It's like its own little community it is and then like the I guess you. It seems that from what I see publicly that the the whole the experience of Hotel. Rwanda kind of blow your mind to a point where it activated you on a level. You probably didn't even know within one hundred percent. What did you know before you did the movie about the genocide? There little she didn't that wow very little And then I started to do the research and then you know saw the frontline piece on it which was devastating and just started meeting. Paul resist the beginning who came out who is portrayed in the movie and I got to meet him and just getting into the story was Yeah I I didn't know anything about it. I only had cursory knowledge of it. And then it then it was. Yeah it took me to a completely different place. And then doing it. And saying the effect that it had on people whose stories hadn't been told people who the survivors of the genocide. A lot of them were extras in the film. And I couldn't believe they wanted to be a part of and they were saying no we want it out. We want the story to be known. And it's important to us and we want to participate in it and it's a cathartic it's a healing for us in a way to To go through it man your neighbors. Yeah people you know right. Yeah well that's that is somewhat emblematic of how these things go around the world. It's very often your neighbor. It's very often people that you're co mingling with different communities uh-huh and then they've also years. That's right you've been other is in its on other business That's a that's a good word for it. Is that your word no take credit for? That's really what it is 'cause we're seeing it everywhere now absolutely everywhere. That's what you have to do in order to be able to do what you need to do. Dehumanize them enough to your thing I if I turn you into the thing and I can get ready. Yeah Yeah and nobody's going to care. So how are you active? Now with that stuff well. I still Work with Sentinel where we One of the things that we did at the time and are still doing is There is a satellite that that goes over that area in Sudan for and We were able to piggyback on that and capture images from what's happening in the border raids in your things. When they're at that time there was no there was warehousing material. And trying to you. Know collect evidence in case there ever was a moment when assets happened. Bashir is now going to the Hague to be tried for these crimes against humanity for genocide. But at the time that was not happening we were trying to pressure World the world community to act and now finally has years later after like now all the information CIA involvement whatever. The fuck was happening a lot. Everything was happening in our allies at one point quote unquote varieties. We were getting Intel from them about terrorism we so it was a blind eye. Or whatever you're doing to your citizens as long as we're getting information that need to fight terrorism There's gotta be some assets involved. They're to can't it's gotta be something it's all it's all and then the the main rebel leader then becomes the head of the you know the government. It's just all mixed up and and again. This is not something that is heard of. When these incidents happen there's always other actors involved. They have their own agenda vendors. Never never people are always the ones in the middle of that are just getting wiped around out in bandied about yeah. There's a detachment on behalf of the power right again. There's the immediacy of the murdering but then you know couple. Whoever else is involved There there's enough detachment is just numbers and who steps into that void once that wants. That guy's gone now. Who the good guys are coming in. Because it was a very long before they go bed echo. Absolute power corrupts. I mean that's the so trying to still figure out end and not be this sort of patriarchal in like we're going to tell you how to run your country and we're we have the best ideas for what to do. We went around. I was George Clooney and myself a long distance runner named Tegla Loroupe Olympic runner and UH Joey Cheek who was a speed skater Went around during the height of this we went to China we went to Egypt. Talked Prints Mubarak To try and say you have influence in this region the Chinese had influenced because they have deals with the with the Sudanese people Militaristic weapons and things like that and oil and we thought the Arab nations would be able to put some pressure But when we went first of all we were the highest level delegation that had ever gone to those areas about it which is ridiculous to actors to actors in two athletes were like the highest delegation. That had ever gone to draw get any movement on it. And both of their countries. Both of their leadership said to us. Who who are you to come here and try to tell us. Mind Your Business. Anything America here about what to do. You really want you guys think that you have the best track record on this to preach from your. Yeah podium about what we should be doing to curb violence. Are you crazy? Did you even see that coming up? Where did that put you in a position of like? What do I really know? Well we're we're like we're we're we're not pushing back on that we're we're just saying that this is actually really happening and we're not here to to represent or defend things that are happening. American interests trying to talk about the people right here. Can you help the people and then I fuck sickly kick rocks you know? Go tell you tell your leadership do something and during the height of this as well. I was asked to testify For the Senate with John Prendergast and General Layer. Who was in Rwanda the time? And he was the last year in general stayed behind when everyone else fled and he wouldn't leave from To just talk about our experience in the area and what had happened and what we thought America quote unquote should do or what our government should do right and I was called in to meet with Condoleeza Rice. 'cause she heard. I was coming. State Department's Condoleeza Rice. Let's talk to you. Wow that's pretty heavy. Yeah I felt like what it felt. I didn't I wasn't cool with it right. Hey we're supposed to do so. I go sit outside or off and it's like being called to the principal's office and I'm out there have to wait. Ross you she pulls me in and she starts. Gendai Frazier was her head of African affairs. And Tell Don what's happening in the region so she said a bunch of Gobbledegook. I didn't really understand. Okay and then she and then she excuse everybody and it was just me and her photographer here and she said okay. Well let me explain something to you. Don she said what's happening there. You know on border there was when the Israeli soldiers a couple. It is rarely soldiers that were Taken between the border between Lebanon. And do you remember when that happened? It was a big international is almost a huge international. We're like we're going to go to war over this really soldiers were kidnapped here And she said we had to send the UN. It's not us. We're not the problem with the genocide it's the UN. And I was like that's like saying it's my right. It's not me it's my right arm said but there. The problems like so in this incident. This international incident went down. We had to send `specially. We had a couple of special envoys down there to push through all the red tape and all the bureaucracy so you just said you couldn't do anything in told me that you. I'M NOT SAYING THIS. I'm just listening because I'm GonNa leave right you know. And then she said in all you activists out there all you guys out there talking about George. Bush needs to do more to stop the genocide in Darfur. George Bush can't do anything about that. You guys need to shut up. Wow she said that kind of basically knock it off you feel like what she scary or just were you like or was she just felt like. I mean she didn't say let's meet at a cafe wasn't like let me call and tell you I was literally sitting at and the State Department run. She was working in her official capacity to tell you to shut up. Wow which I didn't you know we're told that story at every book drowsy. If something happens to me check condie you ever. I am not suicidal and I didn't. I didn't get despondent and shoot myself in the back of the head and my driveway why it seems like all of the that that stuff really it has to do with the people like you or people who are focused on the issue to to go out and get shit done. I mean I was talking to Andy about working with events. Were with the women in the Congo. I mean it's heavy shit. They go down there. And they create assist a system of support of ways to you know that the community can start to rebuild themselves. And that's the best thing that we can do. I think from our positions is really shine the light on and support people who have been doing the work for a long time and attempt to as best we can with this platform lend support to the communities that are dealing with Andrew and bring attention to it. That's it we can do. We're not the experts. Of course we're just saying these are the experts these are the people who intimately impacts and effects and they are down there doing the work. Don't I'm glad you put a mic in front of me and put a camera in front of me? Let's turn to them. Yeah you know like them what they need. That's it. Yeah that's what they all the when. I can't stand when people condescend Hollywood. People are celebrities or the acting community for making political statements. It's like we're not assuming anything other than the fact that we can say something and be heard to draw attention to something that requires attention. And we're not saying we're geniuses. No we're not saying we're fucking experts saying here's a problem. Yes a real problem and yeah how look over there and you guys do something. Yeah Fuck Man. And it's only getting harder and weirder and scarier no diggity so these last two big cable shows that you're doing like I watched a few bit of the black Monday. It's pretty. It's pretty broad funny. Shit yeah you know you working with Who Goldberg in in Rogan? Yeah and like. Would that idea come from those guys know? It came from the writers David Caspian Jordan Han who created the right the pilot and they had pitched it early to show time and then billions came out. And they're like well. That's not our show is not gonNA happen But Seth and Evan had a deal there and David Nevins had a showtime at the time was asking what you want to do and there was a bunch projects. They said we want to do this. Yes and so they got together and David called me and he said there's this project that I'm I don't know if it's you actually. I don't think it's you never as I'm saying out loud. Yeah is I'm saying it out loud I. I don't think you're the right person so anyway. Good talking to you over his good great talking to you and then he called me a little late and goes you know action. The more I think about it I think this could this actually might be good. Yeah Yeah so when he said and I talked to seth and Evan in their way into it and David Jordan away so let's all get together meeting. There's something that can workout and is it similar to the guy from house allies. I think people think he's at some people have thought that I I'm playing it so I don't feel like he's got the same vibe as martyrs. All I think that they're different. You Know Marty at least held certain things he he had some moral compass and you had a family. He had a grounding mechanism. That was his dad and his signed. It wasn't as brought a comedy though. It wasn't straight up nuts. Yup and I think that's why David was really David. Nevins really sparked to it because he goes. This is like a straight comedy right. You know. Yeah Yeah you need moral compass. No you guys are bananas more coke. Yeah Yeah and so. This is the second season's going up now. Well I I hope it keeps going me too and you know you you. You're constantly working and obviously we keep going through a bunch of stuff. It was great talking to you man. Great talking to you too. Thanks for doing it. Thank you Nagy carrying your studio for him. How you got. I gotTA GO. Listen to some miles. 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The Rack Extra Reviews: NXT Takeover 30

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The Rack Extra Reviews: NXT Takeover 30

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This would be technically their fourth show content y'all we're we're we're producing the thing, but we're not alone it's a takeover, which means we have a very, very special guest. Hailing from the Jelly Bean Gupta. The crowd chasing, but always falling and falling. The ultimate fall guy, the assistant to the assistant regional annexed the analyst. The. Came kittens. I am not tim the. Fuck a DR ground yet rock. Do you have a crowd? No but I haven't played in. Either have. Sounded played wants together. I've been helping college students Mo-. Rave but you like having a brand new NPR. mean. Yeah I mean he hooked you up man pogos. Yes you know what? It's always great. Get a new intro yet backhand with it. That's what we do here. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's what eight years now I should have known better each without. A shetlands CAIN kittens. If you would like to comment about tonight's show, we're here talking all things. Take over thirty which took place live of the w work tonight from the the full sail university. Essay now the PC nothing Amway Center ohno from wholesale from university. which honestly going from the Amway to full sail completely different experience. It's like we're the lights Oh, right right. This is a live audience right right audit but we had flames and lots and lots of flames. We did have lots and lots of planes they brought the fire boxes over and well, they kind of brought the fire on the pre show Kinda didn't bring fire but they did it was a good opening contest where you had Brazil Zongo taking on lurking in Birch and the Gado dill then Tasma. For the number one contender ship for the tag titles. So, since it was a thirty minute, pre show was like okay. Less than ten minutes GONNA. Find It. They're going to have a pretty good imagine. That's what we got. Yeah resent go came in serious yet you didn't have any of the prematch skits. You had just them coming out doing in their regular intro and getting ready to kick ass and take names I. Guess. That's what happens when you one of you almost gets -ducted by Mexican Ninjas I mean. Those good that they came in strong and stuff and I. Got The victory on on this night and they're number one, the number one contenders, which is surprising that it's a good surprise. It's a nice one because good Lord don't they deserve it. Call that one. Well, you call it because you took the tiebreaker when I call it. But the thing was is I mean we talked about it on Thursday with the preview. Breeze Longo. Has Faced imperium before and you know they were they did the little skip beforehand. But what happens if they were to face them serious now we kind of get to see that hopefully hung in to see if two guys who have been around for a little while take on the bring general's lieutenants and. Should be a hell of a match hundred spoke about them basing when they're serious. They're great even when they're not serious great. But yeah, I mean they're. Different. Yeah they've always kind of been this throwaway comedy act. They've never really given them the chance to be serious shine, and so they're gonNA do that here. I'm openness saying that because they're both extremely talented individuals tyler breeze and Fondaco got something over on their own, not as a tag team without really trying or they did try to say there was a lot of time but it's like feasibly what they both did shouldn't have worked and it did they. got. It over and then it Kinda got kyw Bosch or left behind on the main roster, and so they formed the tag team which was a joke but they got it over and then through a series of injuries and everything else kinda relegated down to an x t where they've been and they've had a much more serious vibe to them which I really liked. They still do the skits they still have fun but they're getting they're getting to Russell more. So I'm here for that, Bruce came back exceeds. So he get off the road because he now is a trainer. As his own school. So it made the sense also good to see that they found Walter. Walter in the Med from Walter is alive. We can confirm it. Alive at we can confirm because they announce it on the show NFC. K. is returning September seventeenth to w network. It's going to be out of the BT sports studios in the UK they found the prodigal children they rounded them I'm sure there's all so happy they're so happy to be back is like they started the Promo in there's Walter and it's like Oh my God there is they found him and then they show everybody else like houses or wherever they went somewhere. Cool to film and it's like Oh. Hey, look they found the roster they're all there. You'll want to didn't see Trent seven I liked valkyries segment when she's out in the field. Yeah. Somehow they got the stuff to blow up. It was just like, ooh, that's nice. I feel like they wouldn't filmed with some people and then some people just send in cellphone videos Piper yeah or some people like actually made effort into their video and like put it together and send it in. That could be the other side of it is something they're like, okay. We need you to film something for Promo Package Basically saying that you know we're covering. UK, back. So just take your cell phone out and just film a real quick thing and some people were like, oh no, we can Irvan that I can have Jairo. That's exactly what happened. We. Are Forgotten brand back. It'll be so nice More ruffling something to watch. Well I missed U K. let me. We could hold a special draft and we can draft UK wrestlers. Now does that does that mean? We get Tony Back? Yes. That doesn't mean we get Tony that. Maybe maybe we'll see if she wants to wrestle like I. Think they get they're having the same guidelines as what the US roster is, which is if you have concerns about Kobe have to Russell. But I think they're kind of expecting everybody to sort of come back to work. Tony in Valkyrie on good come calling me if if she wants to go back to UK 'cause. Maybe, she's just waiting to come back here. Maybe she's part of a certain group. We don't know without a dunk be part of it too. We don't know. We'll have to see the moving on the show opened officially opened I should say with a rather hard hitting contest. We Own backstory Brent thought. He had had all right down to the match that we hear the first matches. What Ben Maller, verses, Timothy Thatcher Right. What was your first match? Okay. Listen I. Had I had Timothy Thatcherism match to okay but but that's The trend why? You have as one. I wanted a good hot start of the North American title ladder matches number. One thought set the pace with. This is still really good first match to put on I. Am not going to knock that. This was fantastic I think my favorite part in this entire match and it's come towards the end. Is Finn's knee gets messed up in quotations messed up in the match and there's this moment between Thatcher in thin were at the exact same time. They both realize his knee messed up and Finns is get about six times as wide as they're supposed to and he starts going no, no, no, no, no no. Not like starts backing up Thatcher Casse Thatcher discharges him. To get hold of the knee and he gets it because he's like Oh wait. Now. That was just that was so good Thatcher's is lit up to and it was like. This It's like the setup who has. Missed the GRAS or Satchel rolled out of the way he hit the ground and yeah he's just holding that foot first second and all of a sudden he stops. That's your thoughts. Get Big. Get Big and like Lindsey said, it's just one of those. No no no. No. No. That's that's. Faster. FIZZ like kicking him with his good leg and everything it was. Like it was just as really great. It's not meant to be comedic. It's an absolutely great comedic moment at that point in time fence going what was the safe? What was the what was the word? There is no safe word in this match none because some of those chops to you. By just they went. They went hard all day. All night. That's the that's the other show that was on tonight rock. Sorry. Sorry sorry. But the thing is they they went out and okay. So what people have to realize what this matchup was was we know what health and. No his owl, we know his movement and he's very fast does all these different things but he went in there he rustled Timothy's Thatcher's hard hitting ground-based style. He did arm bars he did. He did submission work he did everything you would expect from Timothy Thatcher match. So what he decided okay I'm GonNa find this guy I'm GonNa Russell his style, and they went out there and had a pretty good show. If anything it shows how versatile fin really is. Because, like you said, his normal style is he's a little bit high flyer. He's hard hitting still. When he you know the shotgun or the shotgun drop drop kick into the corner, you know the the nineteen sixteen which just still looks vicious hell. But all those things are just you know they're they're a nice piece of his overall. Scheme but a lot of people associate him with you know that the top rope flip and the KHUDA Gras a lot of high flying stuff. But yet him being able to take a map based or hard hitting style match like this just shows that he can adapt to a lot of guys, different styles and that he really enjoys being home. But. We've learned we've learned since day one fin maller on an Amex takeover has a really good neck always. He always comes and delivers every single time because, okay. What regular TV is just pregnant TV, but when the cameras are the lights are on, it's a big big event like this was Taylor went out there. Hi I Russell here I'm the one people talk about no no, no high I made here. I mean, I mean, let's not wrong. Thin been. Instill is synonymous with an X T in terms of being face of the brand and I love how this match in particular and the style of it and just the presentation of it played into fens current iteration of his character, which is a much more hard hitting vicious. I don't WanNa say cruel but maybe sadistic individual were he just has no folks to give and he's just GonNa go at their beat the ever living crap out of somebody. But. It really gets you. He's willing to take as much as he's willing to give. He's not afraid of being a fight. He's okay with being a fight as long as he gets to fight and I really liked that about him like he's not trying to be the man of honor that he was he's not trying to be the demon while deem was cool. The demon kind of ran its course in wwe mainly because they kind of over expose it a little bit and when it went up to the main roster, just Kinda lost that appeal a little bit. Because it was always something really super special in annexed t and they did use it a lot of next t but you know it was always when the demon showed up somebody was gonna die that was just it. So the fact that Finn doesn't even need the demon anymore the demon and him or one essentially. I'm totally here for this I'm fine with this. Honestly I would not mind saying more matches between Timothy Patron Valor, and it'll be completely open to that. In the end from Baylor was able to pick up the victory after the nineteen sixteen DD. Love have move God that's such a good move. I love a good spike piledriver slash brain buster kind of thing. It looks so impactful especially when he delivers it, it looks like he's just burying the guy's head into the mat couple notes we need to mention. Borrowing did not call this show. He was back home with his family in Canada. That's a big deal. Big. Joseph, was play by play. Beth Phoenix was doing commentary from her home and we have third commentator choreographs. It's a little weird have Joseph sitting there. Self it is and we'll come back corey he. He has to be a part of show in with morrow. They're made the perfect time. Yup. You need that third voice. So they coordinators to come in and Commentate, which is pretty cool. So up next. For that, we had people in the crowd. Did we had Sasha unveiling the ground? Wait wasn't there something right after takeover. It's We're pleased there possibly for a reason which I'm currently hunker currently on my television at the moment. I do have one thing say about this appearance and that is the you couldn't get Sasha mask. General blamed out mask. Yeah. Like where's the Blink Tao in it's she was wearing face coverings. So she had like a band mask on which was completely fine. There's nothing wrong with what she had on, but it was just like barely sitting there in a macho man mask everybody else has masks on and it's almost like Sasha forgot her mask and so she just through the scarf Lohan real quick is she needed something price of she forgot it in the locker room and had something just for Shit. Sasha face she's like alright. Throws on you know but it was just like, yeah, it's like, wow. Okay. All right. It was just an observation. It's not it's not judging her or anything like that. It's just like y'all couldn't get her mask real quick like no, you have him. So no you have to what was the next match so the next match if I'm not mistaken which I. Was the North American championship match. That is correct I I. I'm sitting here. Turner, to remember I was reversing Adam Colon Pat McAfee in the North American title. So Anyway, your North American championship is on you the line in a ladder match as Bronson read Damian priest. Do the right, the heartbreak kid aiming I. went out. Got Canet ROC. Okay to be fair. Beth. Phoenix made the same reference meted on commentary everyone. Fella women isn't. Point seem. Damian comes out wearing his leather pants is normal but the top is the chain links that we swear to God was like early ninety Shawn Michaels probably borrowed it from Sean sounds like a kid here's something for your big moment in in the North American title match. If like mean Joe Greene throwing the Jersey to the kid in the stands Sean, just gave him one of his tits out shirts. Any basically. A priest Gargano read. Dream. In the batch velveteen Jay became I. Start cringing owner why? He was doing Scott Cider look with the shape ill at. All the bathroom I went. A disco ball bathroom it doesn't. It doesn't help his current situation now. To look creepy now, it doesn't. It doesn't think doesn't have at all those are helpless situation whatsoever. I'm sorry I'm still really surprised he got put in this match I mean I'm I'm not but I am extremely surprised given the circumstances surrounding him that they distort like we're just GonNa we're just gonNA bring you back after also Brunson read his Bam Bam bigelow. Yes he did I was going to say it was almost bordering on pin news if we want to make a real old school reference there. Bad. It wasn't terrible. Not wasn't bad. He's he's by the way whoever was yelling thick boy during his entrance please no. Gimmick name I know what? It's like. They're trying to eat out behind the colossal Bronson raid and he's standing there in all you hear is like a female voice in the crowd go just repeatedly saying. That's probably one of his best friends you know it is. Let's be completely honest. That's like somebody really good friends with them. There's like I'm GonNa yell this during your insurance because I can. It was Dakota it was the county fellow. Kiwi and he's just like damaged. Don't you have a match to prep for? So any I, mean Let's not forget him even cameron grimes sporting some new gear. Di was sporting some new gear. They all look spruced up the all look good. They dressed for the occasion and then they just went to God damn town with each other. They weren't playing safe with each other they were going. They were going pedal down I'm not sure how Cameron Grimes is still conscious. I'm just going to throw that out there. There's several spots in that match where he should not be conscious I do have to admit I loved the early spot with him when he he clears out or like everyone's in the ring or fighting amongst themselves, he goes outside the ring to grab a ladder and he gets the the we ladder essentially he and he distorts. Behind the PLEXIGLAS. This hair was it you your? God He really did escape from the white compound. Hit He. Yeah. Didn't get the full Wyatt treatment. They just kind of like they turned the oven on and he kind of left a little UN baked he's half-baked why he had stare and Bray was like. It's fine. He looks the part then they're like, oh no wait. Wait. Come back. Oh my point mantra they tested the plexiglas on this one. Yeah, they checked a ladder out of the ring and thank God. For the plexiglas or else it would have been in the fourth row and somebody would have taken a ladder to the base in the audience. So late we saw later the plexiglas doesn't quite always hold up. We we need to give a shoutout to. Mrs Wrestling Kim Lorraine. I A. Play. She comes out like cameras going for the title and everybody else's laid out except for Cameron Grimes says moment right this is his moment and so he scrambled himself up the ladder. He's got one hand on the title and then Mrs Wrestling comes out and it's like, no no, that's not yours and gets him off the ladder inserted beating him up the look on his face when she grabbed his leg and he was just like seriously. Of anyone that was going to stop him you know the pint-size pixies or the poison Pixie to stop so many it's like Oh God Damn Dammit woman and she just beat the effort living. Out of him, that was the best part he's taken. From her and he's out out now. Then, thanks to a little assist from her husband. She pulls off a Hurricane Rana from the apron and takes cameron out to the floor, which again Kudos for that one that was sweet that was really sweet and then then. So. Bronson's climbing the ladder. Janis on the ground bronchodilator Canas gets up on top of Bronson tries to stop him. He's like okay and he's he's turned around in a weird way he's not climbing the ladder normally he's doing it like backwards with his back to the ladder. Trying to just reach up for it and then she grabs a hold a, he grabs a hold of her. She's on his back and he just dive off the top of the ladder onto Johnny Gargano with candidates on his mom died for our sins tonight as I called in Splash Mountain for the Disney couple. She played ride the Kiwi. There were a couple. Spots in his one like Johnny using the latter for his. Detail thing or Get any. He actually did. Yeah. He did. That's the other spot. I think Cameron grime should not be conscious for. Go. The flipping of carbon flipping. That he caught the side of the ladder with and yet we all just went is cameron okay. Yes like oh How he needed a powder after that for just. In what they thought was going to be really cool spot was the dream valley driver by dream on. Onto somebody forget who was to be onto like, oh, he hit it just rolled off and it was He had johnny on his shoulders and it was Damian I think that was down on the ladder and it just sort of went. Did Not. Have the impact. I think if the latter broke, it would've been like holy shit put it in the break just. Bounce off. I was GONNA say there was one spot though that is been innovated in a ladder match as of tonight. And it was and it was starring yet again camera cry he's likable I'll give him that. So you get the usual to ladder spot. Side by side so you know people can climb up at and Karen knocks them both off. He then decides to climb both ladders at the same time mistake number one both guys then recover and decide they're going to get a little bit of retribution and pull the ladders apart and cameron just ends up in the splits he did not have a good night. That was not good for Cameron's rhymes. It was a week. Can we just talk about one of my favorite spots tonight because it's kind of a thing for me in ladder matches when they're doing all these dives off the ladder in, they're jumping off to each other and I'm like you're literally at the top of the ladder you could just grab the fucking title. They finally did that spot where somebody realizes they're at the top of the ladder and they can grab the title because dreams get ready to do a dive off the top and he puts his hands up in his pose and he smacks title with his hands and he's like Oh shit right? It's right here. Yeah, he was GonNa, do the purple rainmaker and it was just like wait. Oh. Oh, it's right here. Grab this real quick like. A good spot the. No go ahead I was GONNA. Say the other about that. I thought was good that you. You've seen us once before was using the hanging belt as a weapon while you're up there. It was I believe Johnny at first because I think it was Bronson was going for it. A Johnny had the you know they're both reaching fort and johnny grabs it and just. Hits Brunson read with it and read falls back and it's like I don't do that more often don't sit there in like swing your one good arm you have a weapon that has knocked people out for years. In matches if just hanging there, beat them with it. Well, the whole Johnny Cameron spot where they swollen the title back and forth and Johnny Smack Cameron in the face with it. Like that kind of stuff. But can we talk about Mister Priest who we talked about dream I? Yeah and his dive over the Plexiglas I guess. God is he okay famous gone now dream. Dream has left the film dream is in another state. Like they they legit. Sent him over the announce table he cleared the announce table guys I think from almost the center of the ring they they flung him I don't know how else to describe that other than they flung him from the center of the ring. I. WanNa say he cleared the Plexiglas you I'm not wondering percent. Sure. He clipped the glass as part of it and hit you know whatever was over there he went through. He George, he didn't go through the. Production Table. But here by the way Lindsay if you WANNA ask why was dreaming this match there? was. Just. Go ahead, I'll just say that we need you for this I I wanted to talk about Jamie and priests in his surprise pop-ups because he had to really funny ones in this match where I forget who was going for the title but he basically pops up behind them. I was cameron second was Johnny Yeah we're like for caring cameras reaching for the title and Damian. Just, legit in take almost taker AJ style pops up out of nowhere behind Cameron who's on a ladder and is like now smack and then dreams going for the title. He's got his hands up on the title and all the sudden you just Damian's hand in choke slim style grab out of nowhere out of the shot just come up and grab dream by the throat. And, there's just a random Damian priest just right there. He's just right there. He just magically teleported his ass onto that ladder I. don't even know how he did. It couldn't you and also speaking of Mister, priest and his. Abilities anytime someone tries to run up a ladder in a match like this. You go this can't go well, he runs out the ladder and does the Poncho or suicide dive whatever it was. And just it looked effortless for him. He had cameron assist him under the ladder to make sure it was stable but he's still just ran up with ease, pulled the flip out and you just went someone that big shouldn't be able to do that managed talented county he's he's talented I. Do I do want to talk about his pants because I need to speak to whomever made them because there was just way too much daily. Shit. Shit on there for them to possibly be safer a ladder match he could have caught on everything in his matt in that match and he could have lost his pants save for eleven match I mean. So he hasn't all the though. Leaking everywhere. I don't think it would say for other things he did either. Yeah. Lindsey I don't worry about those pants anymore. We'll get to that. Yeah. We'll talk about his pants her but. All these things on him, it's like he could have very easily lost his pants match not the antibody would have complained about that. But maybe next time he's going to do a lot of match. We don't put the daily bits just saying otherwise we'll see his well. I mean, I'm sure he does like his daily Bisbo. The. Entire world needs to see his dangling bits. That's why I'm saying so in the end. Damian breezes your new North America champion I'm okay with this. I'm. Surprised and happy and thrilled for him and I hope it means a new direction for him but I think everybody shined in this match I think everybody has a really positive outlook coming out of this match because they all just went in there and just nailed it johnny put on a takeover style performance and it goes right in line with him and candidates. New thing dream did dream things Bronson read look like a beast you had a cameron survive the match. Yeah everyone everyone came out looking good afterwards as we saw later in the show. Mister priest assigned to celebrate with some ladies in hot you don't take leather pants into a hot tub. Letter I don't care whatever they're supposed to be. They are not meant to go into a hot TUB. They're plastic I'm sure they came off right after the the cameras turned off and only because dad was there with him. They were still on or at least I. Hope they were. His picture. which is such a big Dick Energy Picture Like he's literally sitting in a hot of two chicks with champagne holding the title and hunters behind him pointing smirking like for fucks sake like everybody else just has the standard backstage point Damian priests in a hot. Tub Lake on. That little bit greatly. fucked. He was so confident in winning right he's so confident in winning this match that he has two girls a hot tub, a Hummer and a bucket full of champagne fucking delivered to the two full sail in anticipation of his win you've been like you do and worst case if you lose, you can go soak in your hot tub with your champagne and you're two women. Win Wins tuition that is a win. Win I mean. I'm okay with this I Damien Priests Hot Tub Ladies and gentlemen MVP tonight possibly close second probably came and grimes everything because good Lord that man should not be walking right now what's up next and again I'm trying to remember the order. So if I get a wrong I'm sorry we have the surprise of the night. Something I could argue, would potentially be match of the night. Adam Cole, versus Pat. McCarthy. So you have pat zoning interaction. Or? Just home hype permanent before the match he had his friends he added his justice for the brand t-shirt. He this friends wearing call sucks t shirts the friends were supposed to be banned but they showed how he's GonNa tell them now. Ankle. Williams just more regal do out there he had to be socially distanced. Goto I still defied William Regal. Bad. You'll murder them later by awesome. Regal back. Yes. Back so They had a really good. Match, they had the basic he'll tactics from McAfee. Do the headlock spots and whatever, and then his guys come out he has guys with them and he does all stalling techniques in, but then they. They get into it and they had a pretty good match Pat McAfee went out there doing swans off the top rope pat McAfee, is more athletic than he has any right to be. Okay. I mean he's upon her. For everyone who now, for anyone who knows punters and kickers are the laughing stock of football teams? Just because all they do is go out there and kick everyone hates them. They don't even really do conditioning and yet McAfee's going out there pulling backflips off a top ropes. What Hell I really love that Pat McAfee and Adam Cole. Wholeheartedly one for it because this could have been a simple five minute embarrassment match I think they went like what? Ten Sixteen minutes sixteen minutes a sixteen minute match between a a former football player and Adam Cole Okay and they went for it and When I say they went for it like Brennan said, Pat was doing backflips off the top ropes. They were straight up wrestling like you can tell that pat put some steriods time in some serious effort into this. He then I liked when choreographed went when they were brought, they clinched up and we're punching other they're having hockey fight and then call polls showed over macaroni and you've really doing the hockey. and. No, it really is hockey fight and then goes I. Call Got Control of this patch up and he hit some big moves and they're like two counts and colleagues over at the referee going come on. What's going on here? Are you serious? I I like how it started though like coal hits McAfee with something the ref council like one or two mcvay kicks out and coldest has the look like all right. You want some more we'll do this. It's you know you still got cocky coal in this match, but it was like you really saw that McAfee was a threat during this match for Lang for a little while yeah. Yeah. It was one of those things where McAfee. Again went through his training he knew what he was doing and it was like during the match not only was he cocky but he just he knew he just knew how to work things and how to take control of coal, who is a trained professional wrestler and when you're watching it, you're just kind of like Oh. Yeah. He's actually not bad because most people when you heard. Pack Fi you're like, oh, it's a standard celebrity match alright he'll hit about four moves but no, he has athleticism and he looked good. Really good. Yeah. I'm not saying he was you know Ronda Rousey level good when he was. Her debut but I mean against any other celebrity including. You Know Mr Mel even in that match, a mel only had like two or three moves. This was a one on one contest with someone for sixteen eighteen minutes he held his own. So he didn't. Get tired. Didn't get blown up. He was he was conditioned for this. They worked the slow enough pace where he didn't have to over exert himself all all the time stuff for when they needed and he did this on the outside one point and then he adam call shoved him off the top rope and he did that backflip and the crowd that was there went Omar God what are we seeing? Then he runs up to like he sheldon Benjamin and does a super parks. He ran up and jumped onto the top rope. Colonel Shown Benjamin spot where you run up right up to the top opened the move. And then they then they go outside and Pacos Punt Canyon and Call or call was draped over the thing. PATS on the anti goes the Puncak and he kicked the step. My foot. This wear much like in the Ballard match call. GotTa look on his face that let's. Europe. Out. To. Die. So he got the figure four smart they did have good and you know we had a low blow and got her Koga hit with the punt kick and McAfee was rented more and then well Adam. Cole. Finally took back over and super kicked him and gave him the last. Go shop and went for the pound on sunrise and beat that McAfee. McAfee in the military that was one of the nice spots when he's talking to McAfee and he goes to pull the knee pat down and they both look at it and cold kind of Gus then. You're not worth this and he gets up onto the second rope and it's just going to give him the Panama Sunrise again, the Athleticism of Pat, McAfee, to be able to pay that move off like everyone else. Good match he was in he was positioned while he did everything he needed to. You can tell he was a rookie and taking spas because they're one. The thing that we're with the were calling for like the go to sleep position on the shoulders and drop them on the day. You can see pat he flat out by as. Straight as he can take that. And I mean, we have to give for our talking about Pat McAfee, we need to talk about Adam Cole and just give him absolute props. Oh Pat through that match because he did a wonderful job of leading and carrying that match and making sure that they both came through a okay and making himself look amazing like he always does but also making pat look. Absolutely. Amazing. So massive props, Adam Cole for this because it was this was I actually really enjoyed this match like I wasn't necessarily looking forward to this because it's like you always you think it's like it's a standard celebrity match it was like. It's whatever but with this it was like, wow, this is actually this actually really good. Wow. Okay. All right. I'm here for this point needs to made you said, you thought how long do they figured what six seven minutes ten, ten minutes went sixteen that says something right there it didn't feel long. working. When you get some celebrities in there and it's like, okay, this is enough already this was like. This was perfect time well executed. Good stuff. Yeah and honestly wanted to get Pat Mac need a train. It'd be a full time wrestler. He wants eight they should let him if. He is commitments but he wants to like they could train him and actually get him up to speed. Can you imagine just based on what we saw tonight boys got some skills. Boys got some serious skills they need to think on that one I wouldn't I don't think you would be the best ever but. He's got presence he can talk. He's athletic. I think it just depends on how much time he's. He's able to commit to something like this because with his show and other things. Yeah. Here's here's comments from tonight. Pat McAfee told her she wanted to be a weapon in in Tripoli. It's he meant commentator he did pat wants to induct him into the hall of fame when he goes in AAA isn't sure what Pat McAfee future has but there definitely GonNa talk to. Seem really eager. Get back back in there like yeah. McAfee wants us. He legit retired from wrestling from from the NFL to become a superstar because he heard that the don't look at people want to get the thirty years old he wants to do the thing he's committed to it I say let him do it. Let's see what he can do shit and the thing is especially when it comes to some celebrities like you can train someone in the ring will they? Be Great some we'll have some physical limitations, but a lot of what people need to work on is that kind of presence pat has that and we learned that going into this viewed of he's able to cut a really good promo already and be just the Dick. He'll. If you want him to be he made me great leaving a stable Oh God him as the mouthpiece that, and then if need be can get in the ring, all that would be great I'm. Here to see what packed they can do. I'm I'm very here for this. So let's see if we can make this happen but moving on the. Brent scream for four years. The Annex t women's championship is on the line as EEO Sharai takes on by right go. This is what women's wrestling is other companies will hutch and pay attention. This is how you spotlight to good performers and let them go honest to God these these two women got in the ring and talking owned it. You had Raquel on the outside and she made her presence felt throughout the match but for the most part, it was Dakota it was. And they told a good story with Dakota trying to pinpoint a part of EEO and just take it away. She worked arm the entire match and it was doing all she could to just take her down. She had her help God it was so good. The very enjoyable match. The ladies went out there and they they wrestled a pretty good match. Dakota had a really good showing. You had a really good showing. We have good good submissions near falls. We had a rough bump. It wasn't a bump. It was Dakota kicked his head up the ramp wins. Had the you know the baby face airstrike getting the to count three count for count five counts account but. There was no referee then correct. Calcutta considering hits her big move drops a out the things. Okay. I got this one referee gets thrown back into position that you always wonder. What's going through the reference mine where just now thrown into position Oh. Okay. One two. Oh, kicked out. And I loved the primal scream from Dakota at that moment. It was like she had she had a close fall before that and she just had the kind of like dejection but this time she honest honestly had it. It was one of those back pins where it was just like the one two and. Kicks out into Coda just lets out this yell of disbelief and it was like you can tell that all that frustration all that time that she had considered herself quote held down just came flooding back and had a good match they delivered on the show was wasn't the massive night, but it was really well work match in the NATO cleared recount and Dakota. Kits back in the ring drops her with another moon. So retains her though yeah, I enjoy this a lot I thought this was very, very good. It was very well done. It wasn't the blow at match that I think we all thought it was going to be but that's okay that's fine. This is a first showing between to Kota Neo for the title. So there will be lots more to follow for Dakota any o both and I think maybe they were just feeling themselves out on this one or maybe this this was just all the planning to do but I like this I thought it was good I thought it was a very strong offering for both of them. And I'm excited to see more, and after the match we had recap play a factor because well, a certain Miss Ripley showed up with her black lipstick and had a little staredown with Rena. On an absolutely here for this. She also, you know kept clearing the tile to. Yeah. But she's going to take rain out. I. We had to. We had to powers in the ring and they were fighting for who was going to be on top. Yeah. I just kind of maybe want Rena Andrea and Mercedes to just get together and do thing, and we may get go. Just, all three of them underground just put the three of them on a mat and be like just kill each other just go. On. Ladies at fun. The man I wouldn't say the feud with mercedeses overrides. So they're gonNA have that match this was she was backup for you. That's all socialist go. Yes she is Rena Katameya attack on Neo after Matt. Sharia. came out to basically stop her it was the big hero spot to get the show. That's all that really. And possibly stake a claim. Yeah. So go back to the Dakota for second. This goes back to where we talk about Thursday whereas like the code has been that second level healing, she needs big moment. So that's why this match up was good Russell really well, but it was hard to really buy into photo winning at the end because she's never been given that big moment. Yeah. In that could that could be you know on the Casper or coming very soon but she's often with she's not the main event level helium so that she's still working her way into a position she second here and that's right. But the Nice thing is is they've taken the steps with her to get her you know. To the point where she is just on the cost because six months ago. If you're like Dakota, Kawhi could be possibly one of those top level heels he he were like an. But once she turned on her best friend I mean everything's possible I look like it's not hypothetical still is. Not Hypothetical when they start using it as Ammo in promos and terribly sorry Sir it is legit yet by the way the prematch Promo just showing the just owning of. The owning by Yoshahara of Dakota kyw. Thank you production team. It was so good there. Video production has been super on point lately and I love everything about it like I. Don't know. I. Don't know who's WHO's doing it if it's full sail people or if it's W. production but. y'All been putting together some awesome stuff lately. So props, props, you guys. So moving on to the main event, the match everybody was looking forward to the NFC championship is on the line as keithly takes on Carrion Cross and I'm going to say this if I get hate for it, I'm sorry but this match kind of left me. Wanting. As an opinion and it's all right but we have backstory to why it fell off. Okay. Okay time to hit about. Breaking backscratching. So If this week's injury round. So if we notice in this matchup carrying cross was. Favoring shoulder and arm as it were. Separated Shoulder Hashtag blame Brent. Said they put the title on with separated shoulder it happened during the match. Keith no carrying Oh God carrying cross separated shoulder. Well, that explains a lot that export that explain some of it but no but that means some of the big moves. No. Their styles were often this matchup between the two they were just. They as trying to. Watch. This. This had the bake fight. Feel without the big fight crowd. So the big power from moments and the big. Moment wasn't there for the crowd. So they rustled that type where you would have the bigger option. And you could have sold it but because he didn't have the crowd, you had to go to next move and the next move and move seat and into work I don't even know if it was that. To me was what what do you think? I don't know to me. It was one of those things of an I I told you guys this earlier but I'll say it here. Keith. Seems to. Flourish and work or work well, with someone who's a little quicker somewhat like him and Johnny together was a great match because Keith could keep up with the speed of Johnny while while being able to pull off the power moves I, feel like with cross when it was just power versus power and I mean we had a little bit of that with dominant but at least dominic was an agile big man again I feel like with cross being just a heavy keith really kind of had to slow down some of his stuff and it just felt off that way because even though you know carrying has the power to match him I en- Carry An. Can Move I. Don't think he can do the moves like other people can, and in a way Keith has to Kinda step out of his element to try and work with key our work with carrier Keith Work Workers Style when he's two hundred, thirty pounds instead of being three hundred and thirty pounds, which you know more what he is because that's the he works he works the tries to work style, and it just doesn't match with guy like Karen Cross who is a big powerful dude at right it doesn't work that style well, and I mean to be fair the way that we've kind of been sold. On carrying cross is he comes out and he has these relatively quick aggressive violent matches, right? Like we're used to that level of aggression in him and I just didn't see that in this and I understand he and Keith, need to be a much more equal footing because they are equals coming into this match but it was just that that viciousness that we see in carrying cross every time every time he comes out and he beats up people up like in this view, this is the guy that laid waste to the backstage and left bodies literally bodies everywhere backstage like just that someone who annihilated Tomasa CIAMPA got. That level of just. Viciousness, was just not the hair. Wasn't their night I mean some will say it's a really good match and. It it was good. Don't get me wrong, but it had a better. There could have been more special moments. A feel to it that this is just didn't have and you know it it happens and you injuries slow down the maps and stuff like that like the finish or okay like that dentures. Weird. They haven't established the back SUPLEX SS finish to make it come off as oh. My God, that's the move you mean. Well and I was GONNA. Say the thing is is like Lindsey talked about him pulling out that dooms day whatever it's called scientists suplex side of like the the problem is the fact that he throws five of them a match against the lesser talent and it's just you know one after another after another that it's like okay when he comes here and he hits the one on keys and then he goes up and hits it off the second rope you're kind of like okay. Wait that that's it. Yeah because it used to seeing it. Yeah, and and again, it didn't have the same and the injury-plagued part of it where it didn't have the same left to get them like the big off the fromm off they just sort of fell backwards in that. That's not heard it. But the injury is tentative separate shoulder. He is going to go in for an MRI, but that's went hunter believes it to me just could it could be a simple separation or depending upon how it separated there could be a little bit of tearing in their they'll need to do 'em are. Probably. Tomorrow Monday to get that all figuring out but that's the deal there. But in the end carrying out the win got the title finish on a little flat but. that. It happens sometimes everything's not going to be a home run, but it was I guess the right finish else. Because no because the comments afterwards from AAA J. when asked McKay play gave stay tuned. Yeah. He's going on and I mean. There's that piece of it and also I mean carrion. Title and being you know that big bad evil guy sitting there on top of the mountain that someone will have to take down will play out as a good story because you'll have scarlet there. That can be the antagonists you have cross just the monster and you'll build. It gives you the chance to build someone up to be the ultimate conquering hero if it is someone like a redeemed johnny or. Yet to Moscow could try and come back for the Gold Belt and get his redemption against kinross not not that kind of redemption. So, but there's many opportunities go forward. There's different counters can be different people coming in and. Who knows from the main roster could come down and Charity Challenge Karen Cross because? Coming soon, there's a draft, the next product be involved in. So you could be people come in. New matches. We don't even know yeah and I mean even after the draft with the way things are going right now they could have someone go down there and and work with cross I mean. I think potentially injury probably played a part in the finished because something just tells me that wasn't the original finish that they had planned. Ontarians not. Finish it just won't. Yeah. But I mean I still to see what he can do because I feel like it was the right move. No fenced Keith laid put Thailand carrying cross because there was really no great way to have him lose. It would almost have to be d q situation for carrying cross to lose the title and that's such a earn. Yeah. To not win the title I should say and that such a cheap way to do it, you know where a INEX-, he doesn't do those kinds of finishes for a title match. Yeah. So it's like it. was almost like kind of to win just with the level of momentum he has and he kinda has to have a longer title rain because it's like you've built him up like you said, is this monster right? He's unbeatable guy. He just goes out there and takes out whoever he wants. So you need to have somebody that can withstand anything carrying crossing, throw at them and beat him, and the question is who is that person? 'cause the other flipside of it could be could be redeemed been valor because. That could be a good one I want to suggest to names if an xt does steals from the draft. Number. One if one and only comes back, I want to see him in cross because that would be amazing. Number. Two I. Would I would love to see Kevin's versus killer cross. Those guys would kill each other and I don't mean that in a metaphorical for I mean someone will be going to prison for it. I would be down for that. So not for them going to prison, but for the Matt Yeah. For what could happen on a takeover with that? So so a few things. We are too crowd at one point. We had Jim McIntyre on announced that for a minute all the people who the Bailey Sasha's is our drew they all asked to be on the show. It's it's the big. Takeover thirty some of those for some of them that homecoming. So it's like, yeah, I want I. Want to go back to high school for a night. And Bailey sausage constantly asked to be apart of. Course they do dad we wanna come home. No Dad Dad. Don't understand we really WANNA come home. No. You're at college. Now you're not allowed, but we need to do laundry. No, there is a laundromat up the road, but dad, it's. Fine. Just, picture if they could get. The four back together. All of them are just like, no, we want to. We want to go for one night just all of us we're going reduced hunter clear spot were all coming I low key one awkward for them the Ring Becky's like super pregnant and they're all dislike putting their blessing on the baby. Forefingers on. They're like here you go like we made this. Together. No involvement. Okay. He had a little involvement, but we made this together. Our baby now especially if she's having a girl. God can you just imagine? God, that would be amazing. It's our baby now. This is completely off topic that sometimes I really wonder if somebody's ever fucked up in called hundred ad probably. They they'll call him that. So it's like Dad Sean probably has them do it. He's ready to go up and call him dad go do it do it do it? The questions. He doesn't under just earns on the questions is a dad or is it daddy? 'cause you know hundred kicks out a daddy. You know it would. Okay. Stuff can call them that and Sean say, yeah. Couple of other people that can too but. So. All `nother show. So I mean in terms of takeovers getting back on topic. Because, we all need to go that route getting back to the show. This was a good takeover I don't think I would put it up there with like above any other takeovers that have happened recently this kind of sort of middle of the road for me it wasn't like Oh my God. This super fantastic everything they did was wonderful but this wasn't a what I consider a bad takeover which even a bad takeover still like it was really fucking good. This was for me a little bit of middle of the road just because some of the matches didn't deliver the way that you wanted them to and you're like. So, I can't put it up there were on on the card every single match delivered right? Because it didn't happen at least for me. It didn't deliver, but it was a solid it was thought two and a half hour show were entertaining entertaining. Again, these takeovers you can't really judge compare them to pass takeovers because it's not the same because the big takeovers. Have the big fifteen, thousand people in the building crowd. So you know well, and and it's hard to compare sometimes show to show because the roster does flip so much and you have to just keep building the new stars that it's hard to compare you know Sammy and says Cicero to valor and Thatcher you it's it's comparing apples to I don't know about. You can hear. Plantations mangoes. Mangoes. Mangoes blueberries. CRANBERRIES Kruger's. Plantings Clinton's. Lord. So all right. I think that does it Ross. Thank Brent has stuff to reveal I. Go over something. Okay. Go over something. So we made picks and God did we make picks? I mean I'm not used to you generally having them ready. So you know. This this Sunday ever hasn't money that Sunday because I'm usually going through and trying to get the rest of them locked in because some people don't make picks until like thirty minutes before the show and now I need to listen to like fourteen shows to get all the picks because someone couldn't make nick on their show. She has issues she keeps going. She may want again knows I may have to change my pick again because they added a step. Email or just just put it in the chat. Actually. To another show, it's only thirty minutes. It's enjoyable I we were we had a good time. I, had a great time goes great. I don't really remember anything I said but you know I had a good time. Recap go in the picks. At the bottom, Lindsey Place you picked fin valor and that was it. I got one right and I knew that I knew that going in, it's like when we were starting to show is like I got. One match. But that's good. Right above her is a tie between me and an inanimate object. 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Risky Business #541 -- NSO Group makes global headlines. What next?

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Risky Business #541 -- NSO Group makes global headlines. What next?

"The. Hi, everyone and welcome to risky business. Your weekly information Security News and current affairs showing my name's Patrick grave on this week. We'll be talking through all the week Security News. And there is a lot of it this week my God. And then we'll be jumping on into this sponsor interview with Ryan Kalemba of first point Ryan is a listener. And when he heard atom talking recently about how possibly rotations actually result in crappy woods declining entropy every reiteration of uses poss-. Would it hit a nerve with him? He says proof points virus. Caspi product is seeing a lot of targeted credential, stuffing campaigns, actually cycling through variations of passwords that the dumps apparently the bad guys a hip to what I typically password rotation variation looks like and they using this knowledge to betta direct credit stuffing attempts that he's a really interesting interview. And these coming up off the news, which starts now. And Adam, of course, the big story of the week to be honest. I'm kind of surprised at how the story it is. But it's this what's up bug that is turned up in the wild being peddled by NS. Oh group Facebook announce that a bug was invited in WhatsApp acclaim by their internal security team. The bug question's been getting a bunch of coverage because it's like pre off remote code exotic against the voice calling feature and WhatsApp, and you don't have require any user interaction. You mega coal through. Someone's what's up front? They'd have to answer. It. You get about for other flow in the processing of the southeast p protocol. They use voice and in almost the cart exam. That's a pretty pretty typical sort of bog. But of course, it being used and sold by for commercial exploitation to intelligence agencies and whoever else that's really kinda whipped people up into a frenzy, obviously combined with just the sheer size of the user base of what's up. Yeah. We should point out that you know, NS soft. Aware is being used to target all sorts of the wrong. People talking about human rights activists walking about journalists in Mexico all sorts of stuff like they. They don't seem to really be controlling. Who the stuff ones up with? Let's just put it that way. But I just wanna play this clip, which is a bit of a montage of some of the press coverage. This story is being huge you turn on television. There it is. But also attend gentle story here, which is I add albuque- Dadi who is a Palestinian activists who lives in Norway has actually been put into a form of protective custody. I guess after a tip off from the CIA. Which it seems like NBS in Saudi Arabia's off to this guy. He was a colleague and a friend of Jamal Khashoggi. So it's just important to keep this in mind. It's all very well and good to have a discussion about bugs. But there's some real stuff happening right now that is quite relevant to this. Anyway, here's how it played out in the media. What's that hat vulnerability in the app allows spyware to install one phones that can turn on the camera microphone and collect data was as discovered Gulnara ability that allows remote spyware to be installed on mobile devices during this morning. Find on fakes a major security fall in the messaging service that allowed hackers to install spyware on mobile phones. Facebook which owns the company says the attack targeted select number of people says a security flaw in its messaging system has led Packers gain access to in his words. A select number of users foams, they want to take you live to also in no way, where Palestinian activists was warned by the Norwegian government of a possible against him from Saudi Arabia is holding a press conference for the very first time. This is E at L, but Dadi who was sold the threat had been passed onto Norwegian authorities by the US Central Intelligence Agency. He was informed. They could be several reasons why Saudi Arabia with target him yet. Daddy was granted asylum in Norway four years ago, and a critic of surgery this conference had been Sal. In closing like to express my gratitude to the region security services for the care protection provided threats against me seem to be a long term problem. I'm not in a position to make any comments about security arrangements, protecting confirm the two different religions institutions are involves. So there you go. He's interesting times. Right. And I part of me wonders if the coverage that this one's got could actually turn into a bit of a problem for Minnesota group. We've got some human rights organizations, actually petitioning. He's riley. I believe that was supposed to happen today. Petitioning an Israeli court to revoke NS owes export license. But when you've got this tipping off, the Norwegian government about threats to activists that it's given asylum in some of these activists have been targeted by this. Oh, and you call petitions flying around you just wonder if maybe in the medium term, so it could be in a bit of trouble here. Yemen. They have in the past responded to this criticism. Pretty vaguely they say we haven't ethics committee. And we who we sell stuff to about them, and there's a certain limitation to how much the private sector organization like the extent to which vague candidate and control what a customer like the Saudi Arabian government is going to do once. They've bought their products opt to not sell them to the future, which I think is what amnesty and somebody. Groups pushing the government to revoke their expert license with like, but yeah, what exactly is going to do about it. Once they've already sold it to an Intel agency, you know, that's pretty tough for them to enforce their license agreement there. Yeah. As for the bug itself. It's really interesting because everyone's like, oh, it's been patched. But then you look at checkpoint checkpoint data on the patch. And and looked at where the bug might have resided, and like ninety style buffer overflow. And it's very well and good that what's happened fixed it, but the interesting thing is this would be part of this would be a small part of it pretty interesting bug chain. And I don't know if Apple's patched it's relevant in this chain. Do you know, we don't, and that's that's certainly a very one of the hop things about the apple ecosystem is kind of understanding because it's so hard to get inside. And look at the various goblins Hoddinott, unless you're a Stephen or something really what the current state of the exploit mitigations is and whether or not, you know, you've been hit by this kind of thing it makes it makes. Very difficult. I mean, you would expect that, you know, up off of a floor probably shouldn't result in code exotic. Without some of you know, info legal or a bunch of other things to make it viable to get possibly exploit medication that shouldn't be a thing these days. But clearly, it is I'm of course, there's the question of once you've got Kurt exotic inside the context of an apple I all's, you know, then you've got a fan box gave Colonel bog and got to have a bunch of things which you would expect an parental. I have and clearly. But yeah, we don't know the one bog as you say, what must be much larger chain of of things. Yeah. And it's interesting. What you mentioned about the passing of apples Iowa s Lorenzo road up what we should mention to lily. Hi, Newman covered this story. Well, wide bit Lorenzo has his own pace up which is saying, you know, sort of stating what he's kind of obvious to a lot of people in this this podcast, which is that it's very very difficult to tell if you've actually been targeted by any of this sort of stuff due to the city of s and okay, it's all very well. And good decide that they should open it up. The problem is if you open up the operating system to security software, you kind of opening up a lot of Texas there as well. That's the dilemma here, isn't it? Yeah. It's a really horrible trade off. You can have a mobile eco-system that's really over like, Android and that hasn't made for less bug prone platform. Right. As maybe. Maybe it makes it easier to do to complement to do instant response on them. I think that's a pretty reasonable agam into magma enrolling or even just in investigating Faren. If something weird happens. I mean, essentially, you're just completely screwed unless you're a doubt or an answer. Someone who's got the necessary tooling investigate it, you just nothing, and that's a difficult place to be, but it's hard to see whether the, you know, the cure for that will be worse than disease. Opening up maybe would result in in more is on it. And maybe the price withdraw apple pie got an hour. But yet clearly the bugs are still in good supply and rolling iron. Finding those bugs if you're a group like citizen lab, you know, that is responding to dissidents like because we getting stuff on there. Like, it's a really hard thing to do if patched and you don't have jailbreaks and things ready to go you'd think some sort of integrity checking underpinned by the secure enclave hooks into that. That might be a good idea. Well, you would imagine I've got most of these things and clearly inspired you could expose that. Right. Like, you could expose like some sort of integrity checking function to the outside and that wouldn't necessarily been attacks. Like if it's an apple implemented feature. Yeah. Certainly there are ways you could approach it. But we just end up in Trist Busta BUSTER BUSTER kind of situation, you know, where then you just have to them in that as well on your way through and. Yeah, it's you know, these are not easy problems. If they were easy to solve. We would have already done it. The aisles environment like the combination of hardware and operating system being has produced a more secure than average platform, even though bags are still there and clearly so bad. Why just wish we didn't have irresponsible actors selling these types of exploit chains to countries like Saudi Arabia who are not using them responsibly. And indeed the CIA was divided enough to give tip to the Norwegian government about the safety of refugee living there. I mean, that's how he responsible Saudi Arabia. Right. Lock y it's just not. And you you you'd really harp. That SA is going to get a bit of a rep over the knuckles and given just the amazing quantity of press coverage. I just kind of feel like it might happen. But you've got to imagine to their their company with deep pockets they probably grazing. Also, what's a wills and Israel. Well, and also they provide a capability that a lot of people want of your if you would anew really new in his group life as a bunch of customers that really don't one. That to happen. And maybe consider what's going on? It's kind of acceptable collateral damage in the divine tiny supply chain, which is you know. Yeah. Well, that's depressing. Thanks, man. Hey, look, speaking. We'll just being about secure enclaves a moment ago. Apparently now, I o s secure enclave. Pretty good the other I s CISCO's IOS secure enclave on Cisco devices apparently not so good another one from lily. Hi Newman for wide here. An article writing up some research company called red balloon that are being apparently for number of years now working on CISCO's. Hardware trust chain. They have on a bunch of of modern devices dropped this week that basically lets you reprogram the if PG that is the trust anchor on Cisco hobby, by modifying the bitstream that gets loaded onto the FBI during stop, which that's pretty hard coal to kind of make sense that using something with malleable card as your trust anchor by hap-, not the best choice, which I presume is what Cisco is gonna smacking themselves in the face of right now. But yeah, really interesting research and must have been a real hard slog to get through. And of course, the great thing is they paid this particular bog which requires you to have pre relatively privileged access on Lyles device at the us. They actually paid it with a regular Cisco Baga that you could turn into privileged access. That's it was a nice nice combination for them. But yeah differently kinda points the finger at you know, how good secure trust anchors have to be these days. And clearly Cisco. Has made a bit of Abbott. I mean, I'm seeing this one hype a little riot. But at the end of the day, this is one of those if you've got route you can keep route type deals, I mean, it is a problem, obviously that these type of. Secure boot functionality can be subverted, but it's it's relatively new to computing anyway, in a mainstream since I don't know that it's the end of the world know, it certainly not like all of the CISCO's on the plan of going to get hacked by this kind of thing. And we have seen some reporting that has been on have. You know is not ideal and comparing it to some of the more common gardens as go by when we talked about a few weeks ago. Priore bogging the Logan box kind of thing. That's not great. You know, here we're talking about kind of higher in Cisco gear the has this stuff. But I think the the issue here is, you know, once you've got rid you can keep it, and you can survive across updates and all sorts of other things circumvent the one thing that that kind of trusted bird is that's what the other. However is that fixing this? I'm not quite sure what's is gonna do about it. And that's that's the thing. If requires you to return, Cisco routers to the factory we'll just pull that one out of Prague for the day ride. Like that doesn't really work doesn't. Yes. But bugs like this ten or features like this. I guess tend to live forever because you just never that's just never going to happen. So that's one of the other reasons that the going to have a very long tile of utility attackers. We've also got some behind bugs in the clinics Colonel, which is apparently division five point zero point which made me feel very old when I saw that headline. I'm like we're up to what? Now simply does. Yeah. This one really has been the hype to way more than it should because the way it's written up. It's like TCP IP stack bug that packet of death Bom blows up you, computer. But it's it's not that. Well. No, it's not basically some people have been jumping to conclusions because it is in the TC piece up system, but you know, that doesn't necessarily mean remotely trigger Ables as essentially at the use after free in, you know, part of the packet handling in network name spicing in the Colonel my first question was, well, how do I configure the prerequisites in terms of names by stuff remotely because that's just not how it works. And yeah, we've certainly seen. My haven't seen anyone I haven't seen exploit for the specific bug yet. And I read the relevant bits of carbon. It's really comprehend. It's not a hundred percent show. But you know, some people who are good at this kind of thing have said that this essentially does require you to have either very specific configuration, which seems unlikely or enough local access to configure nine spaces and things in a way that would allow you to to use this end that would essentially end up being either local previous school, maybe a container escape, you know, if you're running in a container that had the nicest. Audience component, which I gather is black listed in some of the more modern distributions are. Yeah. This is not the kind of planet melting Lennox Colonel TCP stack remote that we'll dream of hasn't been one of those for a long time. And it's kind of irresponsible to see the reporting making that implication, without really very strong evidence that you would want to back up like it's an extraordinary climb. I wanna see more than just the CBS's schools heated. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I it a really low exploitability on the s. That's the thing that might be double Tyke when you look at the some of the historical commentary about this. And then you say, well what see CVS exploit ability to k- something's not something's not Jelling here. The worst bug of the day. No. What's what's crazy? Right. He's like we really talk about like bugs bugs bugs like risky, biz the bug show. But this week, I mean, they'll talk half of the show is all about bugs because there's just been so many, and, you know, a real lack of clarity out there in the media, which one's a serious which ones up, but holy duly adobe dumped hatch, how many CV's I mean. Holy God, man. This is a serious patch eighty phones so their pets eighty four just an acrobat reader acrobat acrobat Rita once thing I'm seeing a lot of the word critical. Fifty off I did count. But I forget it was such a big number fifty something of that eighty four like Kurt exotic and the rest of influence that help you out exotic. With this. Doing some internal work. 'cause I mean, that's usually what happened like when you see a patch like these it's usually because they've dug it up themselves would certainly hope so, but then again, maybe there's just still many people finding that many bugs in Akron. I'm amazed that there are that many bugs still to pet thing. Like a menu would've thought it'd be mind dry by now you kind of mentioned that they introduced new code and acrobat at this point in its life. Like all these bugs coming from. But hey, hey, they're not even the bad ones this week because Microsoft patch Tuesday dropped and how year we other some this in good ones this week from Microsoft, we even begin the big one is the patching out an Audi p remote marsupial services desktop, a remote Priore remote and that going back to like X P N before they're they're patching back to ex-pm through three even that which gives you an idea of how seriously the taking it Priore remote code exotic in RDP like that's a bad one. I'm describing as. Worm -able, which ATI pay worm? I mean, really because we've seen a few of these right? Like we've seen actual network wombs, thanks to SM v. One and stuff, but an audio PM. Why not and you can imagine like Nautilus is gonna get patched quick enough. I would not be surprised to see something. How is this week crypto minor or something like that? And that's the thing. Right. Like, there's a motivation for people to actually launch network whims. Now, yet, the fact that you can make money out of it differently increases the chance that we're going to see it happen again and ATI P one man there is so much. Audie pee on the internet this fix that. Well, it's interesting 'cause we haven't really seen over the years a lot of ADP bags. I mean, this being there was one that was dumped in one of the shadow brokers had an people. It was gonna hint some another one this particular bug appears to have come out of g h q marks off credits. The NC with this bogs are one on come on spill the room. Spill the row we saw we saw mentions in in. What is he the shadow burgers, one of the other ones that just never materialized Nichols question? Is this one of the spook world bugs that's finding involved equities out of G H Q into getting fixed. How many years of vibe and rolling days because we clearly have Audi pre bugs for for awhile in the spooked. Well now here and I'm class. We haven't seen so many of them. So you would think that something like I would have expected that a bug like this in ADP, you kinda would have hype that it would have been. Apt a little bit sooner than off to they've had ten years of use out of it. It's just really useful. You know? Sure is. I mean, that's the Whitehead bug killer. Everyone wants to pop shell glory and toss king and whatever else that they do with the bugs. But yeah, this one is killed, of course, the patches are gonna get reversed like instantly, and it is in fact as juicy as you would expect them great. We might actually see it womb voice connection on this. Call starts slowing down. We know why right. One thing is worth noting where the people are we have seen some reporting saying, it doesn't affect wool modern windows. I e the ones that use network label indication as or in the case of boxes with NFL, a modern windows. I do gavitt is still vulnerable, of course. But now it's required. With indications any label gets you get out in LA is still probably enough to trigger the bog. I think is what I read. So. Yeah. Just keep in mind, if you have more modern windows, and we're thinking you didn't need to patch. Fast tech crunch has a story up here, which just it look just a depressing stat, right? They say two years after one cry their million computer still at risk to like that horrible all tonal blue MVP one exploit that just blows my mind. And that's a million bucks. Was that vulnerable to it that have probably already been earned the not sitting around? They're not owned, and they can't this research is based on. I think stats from from show, Dan, which really tell if they've been already owned. Right. Like, they have to be pretty much do have to be, and yeah, I'm always surprised at how few groups foreshadowing somewhat do actually go around funding stuff and just kind of bundle up and sell access to the organizations that you can get from because it would seem like a sensible way to make money, but well, this this actually is something that comes up in this week sponsored view with Ron Kalemba because he's saying like when we were talking about things like NAS car drawer, and whatever some of these high profile ransomware attacks. I mean, quite often these days people are just buying access from someone who's shelled box corporation, they'll by the access and then they'll roll ransomware on right? So. Yeah. I think you're right. The the key is something like ransomware where you can actually monetize previously. The wasn't a great way to to justify buying access. And now there is into everything. So one of the things I love about my job is when a story like this comes up this next one. I have no hope of basically understanding it because it is way beyond my abilities to understand something like this. And I know that all I have to do is send the news article to you're and you're going to read the pipe and explain it to me tell us about these ambi- Lord side channel attacks. Yes. A bunch of researchers have been pulling the thread on the kinds of speculative execution and cash side gentle Mike side, gentle attacks that have been in vogue for the last. Couple years academic community is really good at pulling the freight on this kind of kind of bug seen. We've seen a kind of two or three related techniques dropped as one bag that we want because we don't name bugs. And this one is actually it's kind of more interesting than average. This is essentially where in the case where you've got execution on the same CPU call. But in a different, hyper thread, you can leak the contents of some of the memory load like micro sexual memory load buffer. So you can kind of 'cause the thing you'd like to steal outta from is in the middle of doing a load you on the core kind of trigger a load that the forces in exemption to occur on the course of the slow Papin. And then whilst that slow path in the microcosmic. Sure is happening rolling back your instruction. You can kind of read from the load buffer of the other thread and then use that gonna leak Datta quite a slow leak. But the researchers did some good work in trying to adapt. The technique to be genuinely useful just kind of sampling and the attacks are being referred. Through as Michael textual Datta sampling attacks for this reason. That's what makes it a viable. And we've seen some quite compelling demos for this. You know, for example, there's one where someone was reading the contents of the route postured hash on a Unix box. Which is useful. But of course, the like all of these things like doing them in a lab environment in a controlled environment. It's different than during them in the wild. And you don't get any control of a what daddy reading unless you can influence what the other the other core. They have a half of the core is doing. So if you want to do this across a veteran machine boundary, for example, perhaps you can repeatedly try to log in we'll repeatedly connect to network service with processing cryptographic functions like tail Esera society or something. So that the key material is constantly being loaded into memory. And then you hit it on the other corner, you can be leaks and bites out. So in that context, it could be a really powerful bug about, of course, in the real world with was a busy and things going on. You're gonna have a lot more era, and the researchers work in reducing that era through sampling and statistical techniques is really interesting as a general kind of thing raid about it's a more interesting than average micro architecture bug. How do you go about fixing? Is this an entire new class of vulnerability, and we're going to see more and more variants popping up that need to be continuously patched? Or is this something we can just knock on the head mmediately the previous work to address in spirit of execution Boggs, and the other side channels hasn't really affected this particular one. It's kind of a variant that looks at a different part of the micro architecture positive until seabees intels known about this. I think for about a year now. So they have released about shows microcosm patches, mock, soft and patches or windows to work around. It similarly full say accent. We'll see percolate out in the Lennox cuddle. Really, the main thing here, I think a lot of people would have already done this. In response. The reverse ones is hyper threading key here. Now, the fact that you're sharing a single CPU Kohl's resources is what Nabil's this three practical. And I am sure that most people who care about this already turned off hypoth- rating just because it's terrible idea for this kind of thing. Anyway. So that's the easy one. It's just two hundred off if you've got to work or the really needs Harper threading van, you know, think about what that means in terms of security model of math. That's the easy thing to do. Yeah. Shaaban collision attacks are apparently becoming quite practical. I mean, no surprise here. We've been seeing lodge technology companies deprecating Shah won for quite a while and saying win on a support it, and it looks like that's turned out to be quite prescient advice. Yeah. Obviously the the world of crypt. They're kind of machos inexorably onwards when you start getting this pasta certain threshold of weakness cypher with hash function. And that's really what's happening here. The big change that we see now is the previous attacks. We saw against Shah would not chosen prefix. You couldn't just come Gina. Right. Albatross religions easily this work does demonstrate generating hashes matching hashes Dada with chosen briefcases, which makes it much more useful. If you're trying to fight difficult wall bike by some other packets. Signing some other integrity checking routines. That's the thing. Here. We're still talking in the order of one hundred thousand dollars worth of compute time to do on average minutes. No small attackers. Like one hundred K to be able to forge a SSL certificate. Right. Lock. I could think of quite a few organizations that would happily pay that. So the cash to be able to do it. But you know, you're not gonna get I'm guessing certificates for major services. Like, you're not going to get someone's g mail this way. Right because they're not going to be doing show one s Elsa. And this is why we spent so much time deprecating early enough in the cycle that it wouldn't hit this point about still be really relying on. But of course, there was to be places. We want is critical and those places need to check themselves before they get rid some real real horrible Invidia like graphics driver bugs here, which just look like privy gold. Yeah. I think it's in general if you land on someone's gaming box with Invidia drivers, you gonna have a good time. There's been a bunch of bugs in video stuff over the years and not known for really robust securities, intricate engineering. I thought Invidia graphics cards wind up in a lot of boxes not just high in gaming rigs like you're gonna see those drivers in all sorts of spots. So that's that is a good question. Actually, how to what extent these apply to compute GP, you compute Invidia give stuff you might see in Amazon. I don't know that any of these are most of the window stuff. And you tend to not see the windows drivers on cloud graphics compute. But the my Welby similar that would be an interesting piece of research, of course. It's just funny. Right. When you've got like, a really advanced full mitigations and stuff, and then you just these terrible like highly privileged drivers that had just absolutely woeful. Yeah. It's a bad a bad place to be in. But I guess this is why you don't cross the streams unusual gaming box through your Bankin. Now, this one atom this one here is like five with everything even though there's all this high impact news this week. This one is by the funniest story. I think I've seen in quite a lot of time. And I knew you would get a kick out of it as well. Please just tell the listeners what the hell I'm talking about this. This is a beautiful thing. How many of you do listeners have been out shopping on the internet and of gun, the one of those sites that has a one of those security seals this thing has been scanned by so and so and his hack a proof, and you've gone, well that show makes me feel bad. Not turns out one of the companies that does this based based of the way it totally reliable name there. Yeah. They're like Java. Script site seal FANG, like a CDN that served. It got kinda earn and had not one but two Jarvis Koepke. Log is shoved into the sites safe tack proof seal JavaScript, which means that anyone displaying. The seal was dropping JavaScript que loggers all of that page, right? Where where those seals tend to pop up on the payment pages. Is it a beautiful? It is beautiful. Like, I just got to hope that the person doing. It was aware of the irony. You know, what I mean like you really that I go to. I also got a little out of the response from the Vanda to bleeping computer's article about this. Ask them about it. And the team who responded to the best of web trust seal team. Which sounds a lot more paramilitary than perhaps? Yeah. That's what a sale. Looks like a few lodge? I've e- companies we're talking about semantic Trend, Micro and McAfee this some pretty credible claims flying around that they owned pretty hard via it looks like ADP as well. Which makes it sort of double funny. Woke us through this one because I've got in touch with trend disclosure. They response they put out a statement that appears in the story, they're not really adding to it. There's a little bit of disagreement as to just how hard earned claiming yet. I got trend source transcending semantics denying it completely. I think McAfee silent. But this is pretty look my take on this is it's embarrassing. But walk us through the actual story here on them. Yes. So believing computers being talking through a crowd called advanced until you're hanging out with a bunch of Russian crime forums, where they with conversations going on offering to sell access to a bunch of use antivirus vendors or any wars fan, isn't general, and they were claiming to have sufficient access to steal source code to a bunch of products. And we're trying to make these deals to to flog that off some translations of the Russian forums that kind of talk about the nature of the access that they'd be working. For a while on getting access to them some of these companies and we're in a position to Jackson amount of source code the amount of access. They've had to the company seems to be different the semantics slash Norton one. Semantics come back and said, you know, we didn't you know, there is being seen some signs. There's not anything. Interesting going on at advance that is corroborated by some of the today. Go we're site train, micro appears they're all up in there and have a whole bunch of access, you know, to to source products, and all that kind of thing and the dog seems to be some responses all earned some like inconsequential lab, and they're over hyping it and stuff but advanced Intel alike yet. No, yeah, I'm in. This crew does seem to be selling his team view access to the domain controller kind of thing. A small in a middle of nowhere lab with some rubbish stuff on it. But then again, some of the other beds do seem a little bit weird. But. Badly translated Russian Kron four messages. You know, maybe the something lost their. But either way, you know, the idea that antivirus companies are target makes a lot of sense access to the source of the products really useful for, you know, a whole bunch of reasons are making your tooling, avoid antivirus. Funny bugs in the end of ours at self you don't need the source to be able to do that. Right. Like, you just darn? And and I guess, you know, for me the primary concern he would be if this was if I did have access to rape. Oh, if actually looking to do some supply chain shenanigans with a, but there's no suggestion that that's occurred. And you'd hype checks prior to signing, and shipping would actually catch any of that sort of version you would hard. But of course, once you're in a position like this all of that potty hearing, you know, I think you talking about soul Scott offering source code for sale on the forms. Really is just a way of saying like, we have everything, you know. It's the thing you pick out to say that we've got that is the of crown jewel as the most angle week what access to the semantics. Source cowardly a few years ago as well. Didn't we? It's over the years, you know, various products leaking out. And it's always, you know, they're always interesting. You know nations of bugs go find in some of those products. Yes. Sorry. Look. I mean, it's it's I think bleeping computer's where I first became aware of this. I've it sort of pop up in a couple of different places. But I think this is still a developing story, which is why we haven't seen it written up. Absolutely everywhere. Meanwhile, and this is an interesting story wads got this one -nother one from lily. Hi newman. She's bad a very busy week the anthem breach. The accepted wisdom was that. This was I Chinese government joint. Right. The the anthem breach back in two thousand fifteen that was when we first found out about it. We've seen a couple of indictments here. The department of Justice has sealed an indictment against two Chinese gentleman. But there is nothing in the indictment that suggests they government operators. It's all a little bit strange. Yeah. We have seen a couple of individuals name to have some association with a crew that has done. Kind of Chinese government hacking. But yeah, it's not a. Helling it out in the indictment. I think that's the interesting part. Also suggestion why weight of the Dada was subsequently used for something what the intrusion was four and whether or not it was in there in in these gentlemen's capacity as can operating on the government or whether some other kind of free marketing into price because a lot of the Chinese crews. You know, a little bit flexible has the way the way they get jobs from. And so we don't really, yeah. It is. It's a little bit up in the as exactly what this means. So this next one the reason I've included it initially because I pulled together all of the news, right? And I sought through it. And I close a lot of shut down the tabs, and that goes in the being and that goes in the been been this one. And then I brought it back because I think it was a really interesting moment where I thought the crippling of the Baltimore City government by ransomware wasn't even worth discussing because it's so routine. And that that's the guy me this moment of like. Wow. That's where we are that this is Bailey, even newsworthy. But yeah, Baltimore Baltimore City. They'll their computers basically will be shut down there only from backup. I don't think it affected emergency services. But this is where we are isn't it as a discipline? It is a really strange place to be the vet is not newsworthy. Wow. Yeah. See what I mean? Right. Like, I bet you saw the story. And you like what's that one doing in? There seems pretty routine. Right. Well, actually, the thing that I pulled out of the story that I thought about this one because it's such a routine story the fingle I pulled out. But I thought was interesting is that this particular set of Maui is actually manually deployed like it's not the sort of thing that the self propelled, malware can deploy human. There's not enough stamps involved in the plane that a human has to do it, which means that a human attacker is often Baltimore's business actually doing this by hand, which is kind of a different thing than self-propelled network. Malware. As I say that that comes up the interview that's running next Julian Assange list of things to worry about has grown. Swedish. Prosecutors want to reopen the investigation into Julian Assange, so it looks like we're set for a bit of an extradition showdown in in the UK over the next year as we dish and use authorities sort of compete to take custody of him. Apparently, there was still a couple of years to run on the kind of limitations when they had to do it and Sweden I gather the UK government is required to kinda consider a bunch of things when choosing which kind of request religion takes precedence. You know, the some aspect of the actually primis experts just through I saw. Yeah. We'll see what what the future holds for Jillian. Well, I mean, he's currently in prison for skipping bile related to this charge. So you do wonder how it's going to play out. Right. And you sort of wonder what would be a worse outcome for him. Because I think if he goes to the United States he's going to do five years in club fed, and then emerge still with this sort of rebel hero thing around him. Right. Whereas if he goes to Sweden and is open testimony about his alleged sexual assaults. He's probably going to do. Let's just say the same amount of time or maybe even less in a Swedish prison, but you would imagine that his reputation would take a bit more of a hit than if it would just the US charges. And of course, there's also no reason that he couldn't then go on with from Sweden through the US afterwards. I believe there is actually because if they extradite him to Sweden, then he cannot be extradited on woods to the United States. That's not how this works. Ok well that is an important point that I did not know about international extradition arrangements. Yeah. But I mean that was that was the one that he was always using. That's why he said he went to the embassy is because if you went to Sweden need wind. In the states. And it's not true. So look, it's it's all pretty interesting. I think if he does wind up in Sweden and one thing that's going to be very interesting to me is seeing how these allegations play out again. I think I mentioned this on the show before seeing how these allegations play out in I post metoo world, right? Because obviously the allegations were first leveled at him before that movement, which I think really has changed the dynamic of sexual assault reporting. So that's one to keep an eye on. We have I former NS analyst who's being charged with leaking documents to the intercept. They're facing up to fifty years in prison, and it looks like the stuff they leaked with these so-called drone papers that wound up being written up by Jeremy Scahill and over at the intercept which does look like to me looks like public interest reporting of all of the leaks. We've seen over the years when does seem perhaps more defensible than average the reporting from the intercept on the. Obama era kind of extra digital drone killing program. It was pretty shocking and did feel good reporting into that. You know, I thought a pretty good job went back and reread a couple of pieces Wall Street preparing here and yet at the same instinct to do that today. Yeah. When you think about the context of what those stories brought at the time, which people much less public consciousness of what those drawn programs looked like. And that's the thing that reporting gave us a real sort of visibility into a fairly consequential government program. Right. And the US government was not exactly being forthcoming about its drawing program. So it does really feel like this one you may have moved the policy needle about a little bit. You know, you just you just hope the guy doesn't get fifty years, although Lincoln that sort of material when you SEI, that's you know, it's it's to be a big deal. He's going to prison for sure. Yeah. It sounds like the guy is his name's Daniel highly worked at the national geospatial intelligence agency after us air force and. Yep. And he was you know, kind of photocopying some of these documents and taking them home the all fashioned way. And he was also found with a USB stick fully classified docs, and second year speak next to it with torn tiles on which you know. That's kind of smoking gun, right? See if the sentencing ones up in line with the other intercept lak- reality winner, I think she got six years in the end. So you would think. This guy will be lucky to get six years. But that seems to be approximately where the sentencing has set for for that crime man, Iran still getting shadow brokers. Yeah. The crew that's been dropping stuff on telegram and other places around the internet has dumped the bunch of eight hells about some of the other parts of the Iranian hack incur, we've seen some screen shots of information for sale with you know, like see to control panels and we've seen some information about targeting. There was some screen shots of you know, like almost like a presentation of where they were going around talking. I was pleased to a stranger in New Zealand on the targeting list in the other category. You know, be right at something. Yeah. Look, I have no doubt. I have no doubt. They active everywhere, basically because they've been very naughty Iran, and but they're still getting shadowed burqas, then it's money. Let's let's again this week from bleeping, computer. They really do feel in a nice gap that other outlets Miss World onto the crew bleeping computer, one more from them says that Julian business Email compromise scam is shifting to robot access Trojans as a tool of choice. I mean, this is something we've been seeing seeing very period of time. But I do find it interesting that you know, those Nigerian Cruz actually getting up that skill chain. Right. Yeah. Well, I think it makes a lot of sense that as Email systems are coming becoming will complicate them as banking systems are becoming more complicated multi factor off and all sorts of extra label is becoming harder to do with just mailbox access. So being able to leverage up and have a bit more access to understand the context is going to help with the the success rates, yo scams. And of course, the Lord's options for cheap road access Trojans. They can rely on you know, it make sense to upskill. Get more value out of your of your customers. Now, apparently Missoula is pulling together some grant money. For people to look for someone to look at integrating toll with FOX. And I remember going for a Bush walk in Africa with Roger Dingle done as you do. And it really seemed like even back then that when you flicked on private browsing. This is kind of what Roger had in mind, you know, instead of just going to record your cookies like just turning on tour by the fault for private sessions. So it looks like Missoula could be moving in that direction. And that that could be very interesting. Yeah. Go to ground Pergama to investigate a bunch of different ways to improve river in and security in FOX, which integrating tour to become the kind of they call it super private browsing mode as a amusing name for it is one of the ways that you've go doing that. It does seem to make a lot of sense, right? Deliverance of this right into the browser. Of course, people are going to have some concerns about, you know, the kind of the tighter the coupling between the really private and the regular at the more options. They're often formation leaks and other things to go wrong. That would. To lower the the quality of the sacred Asian, but you know, in terms of exposing a whole bunch more people to using tour in a way that anything even get it up to the level of running a separate tool browser Makoto browser bundle. As completely separate executable. You know, if I can make that easy, then the lifting at all bunch more people using it. And also, of course, you know, the Tober bangle uses the old versions of FOX. This is that I was gonna talk about his like every time. There's a patch and five FOX usually go to be the lead time to reverse it and roll out your FBI network investigatory investigative techniques, you know, via a week called five FOX volant. Because of course, you know, the tour browser bundled. They need to they need to engineer those patches into that bundle. Right. So putting it actually in the browser makes a lot of sense. I don't think the FBI Alaka. No. I imagine it probably probably won't. But I've lost the grip of wars. Right. So have to deal with it. Yeah. They will go to interview coming up in the next few weeks with Jim Baker who was the lead counsel for the FBI during. Comey's time there, and you know, of course, he was he was the head lawyer for the FBI at the time, the San Bernardino thing unfolded, that's going to be a really interesting chat him, and I had a conversation about the interview that we're going to do which I think is next week or the week after and yeah, that's going to be really good at some. That's one of the Hewlett foundation podcasts that sort of commissioned commission me to do. So do keep an eye out for that one. Another one from motherboard here from Joey Cox, which is his some sort of crypt. Our panel looking at standards, whatever and some some group of Russian cryptography have come up with this thing and the rest of the panel is like, hey that kind of looks like it's back door and the Russians like, no, that's totally coincidence. Never we would never. So it sort of looks remniscent of the whole the whole drama around the bay Saif stuff in eastern, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But this is why we have panels, right? Yeah. This is exactly why we have this kind of review. And of course, group talk was really love this kind of thing. And this is exactly the jam spotting of. Crypto grievous trying to be sneaky with and put backdoor them standards in love that. And so I think everyone's having a great time of trying to. Subversive? We'd tackling. There's some reasonable counterarguments that the kind properties of the s boxes of these ciphers that they climbing maybe advantages through. Kinds of cryptographic backdoors sort of exists many of the properties existence on the ciphers. That are sparks by our, you know, gripped articles of just having a whole bunch of fun. I think it's the main thing that's happening here. No one outside of Russia. Probably is going to deploy Russian STAN government standard ciphers and to interrupt with the Russians. But yeah, cryptography tartly having fun time, Microsoft keeps belting out sensible advice slightly. And they light is is that, you know, you really should be doing your administrative tasks on dedicated hardware, and look, you know, seems like good advice to me. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the guidance from our softer around highest urines active directory environments, you really has been pretty good over the actually better than it used to be. And this one really is pushing the idea of having separate privilege Adleman workstations, you know, that dedicated hardware full doing administrative tasks so that you can keep your day today Corp life away from your demand Edmund life at of course, it's also recommending on the pasta. You have you know, Samper? Active directory forest with separate infrastructure that you log into to do the Adleman things and in that provision. You just in time access for Mr. into the mall, corporal, trust the mind, but very few people willing to wear the cost of that and not just individual companies, but all of the outsource provider, and the idea here that you would have imagine if you're a an ounce provided that's managing demands. For hundred customers he's supposed to have a hundred different separate Adleman boxes for that sort of environment. Which is where a lot of the supply chain attacks focusing on systems integrators and upstream meter management firms in those environments, this advice just doesn't really fly. And that's you know, it's good advice when it was your call. But it's just it is complicated than that for, you know, some of the customers the way see that have more unique requirements, and I guess how skateboarding dog this week is about the unfortunate citizens of Panama. Well, eighty five percent of them. Anyway, had their personal daughter exposed. Via an exposed elastic search. Yes, some organization as yet unnamed head loaded daughter about eighty five percents, I'm two and a half three million peoples worth of like medical Datta, actual patient of was clearly from a medical system with names and addresses and social security numbers of the equivalent in Panama under that kind of personal data all loaded up into elastic search and just left on the internet. Like you do with the last exert. So the everybody can search it. But I mean, that's the problem, right? Is when you can when you can easily handle that much Dada. People get careless with it because they just zap it from there. And then let's spin up a test instance for this latest thing for searching that daughter. That's how it happened. Exactly. Right. Him in this. I would not be surprised if this was one of the like Amazon elastic surge in the cloud or some of that stick as a service that because it is so easy to spin up. Everybody does it and then they don't get spun down. Yeah. Well, that is actually it for the week's news. A month to and thanks for joining us. And of course, we'll chat to you again next week. And it was a lot this weekend. Hopefully, what the quiet one next week much. That was out of boiler. They would look at the week's Security News. It's time for this. Sponsoring of you now with Brian Kalemba. He is proof points EV p of cybersecurity strategy. He was formerly the S VP. Now, he's an av PDF has changed to eight. But yes, he is the AP of cybersecurity strategy proof point, and we'll be touching on a few things with Ryan this week. He says attack is pulling passwords out of dumps, and then working through typical forced poss- would rotation variations are like let me in one. Let me in into let me in three and this process is now automated and everyone's doing it apparently. So yeah, Ryan, and I speak about that. Then we also talk about what's happening with ransomware is mass ransom. Wave Email still did have we moved to manual targeting. You'll hear what he has to say about that. In just a moment. He is Ron Kalemba one of the things that we've done when we moved to the cloud is made that extraordinarily easy to do. Scale. So it seems pretty clear at this point when we look at our data, which we get from our cloud access security broker product that pretty much everybody's being targeted here. We saw it in about seventy two percent of the thousand plus tenants that we monitor and shockingly about forty percent of the time an attacker is successful at compromising at least one account via this technique, even when there's MFA in place on all of the obvious protocols yet because there's some other protocols there that aren't really playing with him FA. Absolutely. I nap is the big one these guys like there's of course, active sync, you see all these funny Loggins from mobile, Email clients and even things like exchange web services, which are extraordinarily hard to get rid of. When you're you're CIO toes. You gotta go to office three sixty five. Oftentimes that happens. It's a huge lift to do that. And these things just don't don't really get factored in an MFA on the front door is fantastic. But as the old saying goes, if you don't have MFA everywhere, you don't have. Yes. I mean, what is it typical? I mean, what do you call it? It's not really credential stuffing. But it's like. Would you would you call this like informed guessing? Here. My to put it we for a while we were playing with targeted credential attacks targeted password spraying is another good way to characterize it. Because of course, it exists at at slightly different scales. Depending on who your adversary is it is very clear thing in our data that you have Nigerian kind B C actors doing this prolifically. And then we see other times only one or two accounts get targeted by incredibly persistent attackers who will just keep guessing on these protocols until they get access to what they want those things I think fit pretty neatly into what I would call targets targeted passwords attacks. Now, there is a dictionary attack. There is a brute force attack. But what you're describing here is something in addition to that, which is really they will take a password from a public dump right, which has been a standard thing that people have done for a while. But even if it doesn't pan out by stock guessing on variations at that what sort of variations do they try? It's a really good point actually because the variations are unbelievably simple because we are unbelievably simple human creatures, and we iterating predictable ways. So the the classic ones that from the end, I'm guessing the number on the end rating the special character right after the number. Go Yankees won. Don't go Yankees. One. Exclamation point. Or going one bang going keys to at sign. Go yankees. Three pound sign. It depends. How much time has gone by because you might have gotten all the way through the nine cardinal numbers there. But it really does seem that people when they have to correspond to those password policies that Adam mentioned, they get more and more predictable over time, and we seem to actually start to be successful with fewer and fewer guesses. The more public credential dumps there are so there's a big spike in this sort of activity right after the dump came out in the conventional credit collection over one came out a couple of months ago, and when that was quickly followed on we saw another spiking activity, and it does seem to be incredibly successful and low tech, even with very limited tooling on attackers side as funny right because that collection number one that was mostly an aggregation of dumps. Right. So it just shows people. Quite lazy? And even though that Dada was ready out there like someone's put it together my as well use it exactly December was actually the biggest month we've ever seen which is unusual because things like targeted phishing attacks. The malware where landscape it all tends to go on holiday like all of the rest of us because they have people that are going to click on their lures these attacks actually went up as the holidays occurred, because frankly, you know, people were probably not monitoring in quite the same ways and credential she's been collection one gave people a tremendous amount of raw material to work with in in targeting these things. So I'm guessing this means that you as I said in the intro broadly, supportive of the of Microsoft's push to sort of ninety get people to select one good poss would rather than changing it all the time. Absolutely. We in fact, changed our own policy at proof point recently. And there was much rejoicing. When we did that I think the ultimate goal is to move away from passwords entirely and everyone endorses that. But there's so much that would be broken by that that we just have to move into GRA metal steps, I think that the main thing that we're paying attention to now though is that when you move to officers sixty five G suite you are really at risk for the sort of an attack and what gets endangered when a condenser like this. It's compromised is pretty staggering, right? The entire global address list the ability to access that person's Email all of their files we've centralized so much access in this one credential that these attacks are incredibly useful for adversaries who are most of the time financially motiv- motivated, but have a whole wealth of options at their disposal after they compromise account like this. I would think that if you're gonna stop rolling passwords are every X number of days, you'd really want to draw India workforce that the password. They using has to be substantially unique right because of the possible dump problem because that's the one thing that about fixed passwords that. I mean, they're all well and good unless they being reused elsewhere, right? And then the very very bad. Absolutely. And I think when ever there is anything that's acceptable from the internet that depends on a single factor. Even if you do make progress on this particular issue, which is just highlighted by the ease with which external attackers can compromise counts that they go after in a targeted way with barely functional tooling in what really jumps out to me is that some of the data that we've seen that. We're seeing is that even if you do have MFA in place the rate of compromise goes down by about two-thirds. But the question is why does it go to zero? Even what you do things like on an office five tenant block legacy authentication. And it's because we're incredibly bad at thinking of passwords and were also in a lot of cases unable to shut down these legacy protocols that let attackers endlessly iterative and try things even when we do change the game slightly ended up with better passwords that change less often. It's funny. Right. I only became aware of the. WS stuff like recently that was like lost year sometime. Because it's everywhere. Right. And it's like, you cannot to if I absolutely. And I think we're at the point where we're maybe eighteen months into this people really started seeing this at the beginning of twenty eighteen really have an impact in terms of compromise accounts, then being used to attack business partner is then being used attack other internal use users. It was really brutal set of things to try and deal with because the root cause of the issues is difficult to grapple with. There was always some legacy application that relied on AWS relied on map, and you simply couldn't turn off for the sake of business. So we found that actually doing monitoring of the officers security officers sixty five security PI's is an important control in kind of living in a world where you can't be perfect from an MFA perspective in most organizations if you do get there, that's fantastic. But for most shops, you didn't really understand, you know, much much like you didn't that eat abuse runs? All these incredibly important processes that. You just can't turn off. I mean, it would be nice to move to a block off to ten filed Loggins type of model. Right. Like lock that account. Is that is that an easy thing to do? Unfortunately, it's not is officer sixty five makes this complicated in a variety of different ways. There are things like conditional access, and if you're paying for eighty as your p to the vagaries of Microsoft licensing our wellbeing. As a company you're able to actually understand it at all. That's very impressive. You know, you've got a whole research division, just working on that. But gone we've absolutely had to because frankly, there's a lot of things that are just not possible unless you have those features. And when most of our customers have moved officers sixty five they've moved the threats they've moved the data, and we have to figure out what things even weaken hook into to try and leverage. But we're not really even at the point from it office three sixty five perspective where most people block. Just simple geofencing ways when we look at the map attacks sixty three percent of the attacks that we saw that were successful originated from Nigerian IP addresses, so not really working very hard on the object on the attacker front there, South African infrastructure was actually number two which was about twenty one percent and VPN's and anonymous services that all generally appear to be coming from the United States was was third tore in that we do see some other kind of long tail VPN services, but a lot of it actually seems to be launched even from things like compromise routers, and Microsoft hasn't really good tools here. But they put it in tirelessly on you as a customer to configure all of this understand the licensing to actually then try and deploy all of these controls to reduce this activity, and even then you might not be able to get to a perfect defensive posture. So monitoring again becomes really important. It's amazing to me how much of proof points. Success simply rests in filling the gap on Microsoft stuff. It is really extrordinary. It's been the driver of our. You'd be in real trouble. You're absolutely right. I think you're and that's true. Of course, a cross a couple of different vectors. And here we're talking about sort of the woods known Gardner called the Caspi space, which is aimed at somewhat. Unfortunately has stuck. But just figuring out what kind of what matters from a cloud security perspective, the the tax changes in really kind of predictable ways. You will see these passwords running attacks. You will see phishing attacks you'll see spoofing attacks. You'll see my where Microsoft has tooling for all of this. But none of it seems to be terribly effective. So just to just to tie this back to what we talking about. You are offering some sort of cloud authentication broking service as pot of you'll Email security, suite. Now is that right? Absolutely. Yeah. Garner calls. This the cloud access security broker space. Basically, it's either sitting in front of cloud applications as a Ford or reverse proxy more often actually connecting by API and doing this him sorts of things that we're doing on Email channel, basically threat production, and the opium makes sense. Right. But there's an awful lot of Caspi plays out there. Right. And a lot of good ones as well. Just come into recently on on that on in last week's show, actually this quite a few. But look one one other question that I wanted to ask you, well, you here's what's going on with ransomware. We had shared the grip. Oh, you'll call AIG on the show last year. And she said, look, you know, ransomware as a mass Email thing kind of dropped off big time. It's really weird. But it's it's basically just gone away. And it did seem like things did quietened down quite a lot. Now, we've seen a whole bunch of high profile breaches ransomware breaches. And I say that because it feels like and I'm just operating on intuition. This is my masking you, but it feels like maybe manual intrusions. Where someone's goading manually sort of ransomware had stuff wants our in the in the network, but I just wondered if you've seen an uptick again in ransomware, virus MO. Yeah. I think you're spot on. I think they're they're those who call this big game hunting style ransomware looking at the data, which is in front of me right now ransomware as a payload is the lowest that we've ever seen it to actually. Probably a group of people who targeted north contra exactly you had those groups that were using RDP that was open to the internet and looking for that. There was a couple of other threatening to say you deserve it. If you're exposed. Because no one deserves it. We don't victim shame here. But jeeze out, you know, but it's so much of this comes back to basic hygiene. But in this case, we are not seeing the massive ransomware campaigns, at least going by Email that we used to because they're not profitable a lot of that has to do with the price of bitcoin the ability to launder bitcoin, but it's just not making money for them the same way. And frankly, we're seeing that in the rest of the landscape as well. There's a move towards much more targeted attacks in general because selling on access if I have, you know, imitate or something any kind of I download her Mauer's gotten really really modular in this respect. It is easier for me to sell that access for somebody then to monetize via the traditional kind of self service. Pay clinch. Clinton stuff we've seen over the last twenty years or people just getting more and more specialized, and it would make sense that finally you just going to have one group that just does the finance stuff, you know, and one of the best examples of that for me is group at we call threat actor five oh five they were dried X way back in the day. They were the big ones behind Laki and lots of other quite famous our families. They moved to actually dropping rats which was really fascinating, right because Iran isn't something that you kind of automate the way of banking Trojan or traditional ransomware works. You know, you kinda need somebody with hands on keyboard actually used that. So they had there's this remote access product called AMI that they back doored so flawed AMI was the name of our they're using. And they've really actually kind of scale that operation, they just dropped rats a lot of different places. And the only thing that we can think that they're doing to monetize that is simply sell that access onto somebody who's interested in access into particular organization or particu. Type of organization Ryan Kalemba. Thank you so much for joining us on risky biz. It's being I real pleasure to chat to you about all of this stuff. Very interesting and all to annex conversation pleasures always metric that was Ryan Kalemba day all proof point thanks to him for that. And big thanks to point four being a risky business up. And that he's hit for this week shar. I'll be back tomorrow with a box vision from signal sciences check that one out whip security is something you have to worry about up until then Petric, right? Thanks for listening.

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All right thanks. Janice traded from the Railroad Cheyenne captain. All stores has ordered in it into report. Mr cyborgs. Tob Two meals. Lame one destroyed otherwise. Retained Sir your command have a good time Shan. Thank you did notice. Few skinned knuckles any complaints from the civilian authorities. No Sir all right. Cyber Quartermaster Water and turn your stock out in the South Range Commission. Men they're relieved from further duty until that buggy doing in your train. I was going to say about that. Sir We Had A passenger lady Mrs Wet nurse. She's the widow of an officer was stationed here. I must have been kept in. Said he was killed by Cheyenne on three or four years ago. Lance Creek Command was wiped Before my time I know what she's doing here didn't talion Nelson tickets. You enjoyed your trip. Then Mr Abbott. Bad Hand Ma'am. Thank you MS winner. I'm Kevin Quinn's welcome to fort. Laramie how do you do? And that would be major daggers. We didn't expect you MRS winner. Perhaps your letter was delayed letter. I know when I was coming. We had we might have arranged more fitting reception and better transportation. This is quite satisfactory. I rented the Horse and Buggy in Cheyenne and the lieutenant furnished. Me a driver. You were very considerate lieutenant. Cyber thank you. Ms Is wonder now. If you'll excuse me I'll get back to train of course. Thank you. Lieutenant Weatherman. If you'll come with me went. Noor I'll take you into meet Major Dag. Thank you take care of the horse and buggy chicken. Did you know my husband? Captain Quince out here. That's right. I don't remember him mentioning You. And he's letters but it seems to me. There was a Clinton his class at West Point. All right wasn't at the point Mrs went in there. I was commissioned in the Field Shannon Doa up from the ranks goes. I see here we are. Oh major dagga this is Mrs Winter just came in with a supply train or this is a pleasure Mrs de Winter. That's right made you. I'm Phillip went and his widow. Won't you sit down thank you? I didn't know your husband myself. Mrs Went in there but I've been assured that his death was a great loss to the army. Even more tragic for yourself of course was a horrible thing and even a terrible unnecessary thing. He could have been safe in Washington. I arranged it all with the president himself. I Shea could never understand why it. Philip refused it but he was a stubborn man He was very popular here. I understand isn't that right. Kevin Lynch was a good field officer. Ms Winner wraps. He wouldn't have been happy at some disk in Washington might have been better for him to be a little unhappy and alive. Today might end up. Captain that's hard to say Ma'am at any rate. We're happy to have you here. Mrs Winner. Sorry we weren't prepared but I'm sure Mrs Dag able arrange things comfortably. You'll stay with my wife and me. Of course perhaps we can use your visit as an excuse to liven things up around here. We've had very few social activities might even ranger reception or something of the Short Major Daggett. I'm not here for social reasons. So what I meant when I came to get my husband's body miss your husband's not buried here at the four. I know that but you see. I want him recovered and taken back east. I've arranged that. He will be buried with full military honours in Arlington cemetery but his grave is one hundred miles from here up on Lance Creek where he was killed. I've already come two thousand miles. Another hundred doesn't matter. I don't think you understand. That's Indian territory. Cheyenne and Sioux hunting. Ground Treaty territory side from the very real danger. My order strictly forbid any white person to enter that region including my own rubers. That's this letter. Clear Your Mind. You will see it. Signed by the secretary of war himself so major Daggett. I want to leave for Lance Creek as soon as possible. And you expect me to send you there with a troop escort of course. Lettuce says every assistance possible. It also says within the scope of my orders and with due consideration for your safety not worried about my safety major Daggett but in a case like there are no exceptions mentioned Mrs Winter. Do I care about a treaty with those savages? Who murdered my husband? A treaty was made Ma'am to prevent other men from dying the way your husband did off in quint's I'm beginning to understand why these Indian troubles go on and on. I've wondered about that. Wondered why you didn't just wipe them out. I think you're freed of them. It's not that easy. The Indians are people too. They have rights. I'm not interested in their rights. Captain Quints and I'm not interested in your orders. Major Daggett might understand that you refuse to allow me to go to Lance Creek. That's correct a cap risk your life nor the lives of my men. And I won't risk General Indian war very well Captain Quince. Would you be good enough to show me to my quarters? Of course Ma'am Demise am voice. Yes Sir yes Sir Chris Patten. It's all very impressive parade ground drilling till you remember that in spite of all the military show you're still afraid to face the Indians. Have you completed your tour of inspection? Yes cyber to shown me everything. I think. It's all very interesting seeing the place that Philip called home is one thing I'd like explained. However what's that man? What could possibly have held him here. What holds you Captain Clint. I'm afraid I can't explain it to you Mrs Linton. I'm sure you couldn't. May I ask? What your quarters thank you. I've noticed. Several men dressed in Buckskins lounging about the still at the Sadler's you call it. Who are the in Scots? Charlie Reynolds will be. Pta's was one of them wasn't who found my husband up on Land Creek News Man as he led the burial detail back talked to him sometime. He's under the majors orders. To Ma'am I meant Captain Quincy might be able to tell me things about my husband things. A wife would like to know of course man. You don't like me do captain. I don't know you well enough to like dislike you Mrs Winter. But it seems to me that you intend to disregard every consideration get the lance creek if you will excuse me. Gavin gwynn's reporting. Oh Lee just been thinking call. Wells do for leave. Who can we send out to the clearwater patrol? His replacement is cyber to green. No no he'll do these. Come along fast all right. Good Major Major. What about Mrs went new? Well what about her? I think she's GonNa make trouble. I don't think she can kept a check of the Telegraph office in the mail. I think she's accepting the inevitable. I don't I think he's determined to go to Lance Creek one way or another. How can she won't let her? I don't know but I think you'd better warn the civilian scout especially as in. You wouldn't be that much of a fool. I wouldn't think so either but with her in happen. I believe that she's quite a woman. Oh by the way the evening socials all set up for Saturday night. Nettie sending out the invitations today having a small dinner. I you're supposed to come Has Mrs winners escort me? You're an inmate of old bedlam. You're eligible their other bachelor officers. Living there cyber youngsters. She's more your H. I don't fight at least and he's minds made up on a one thing. I don't like about your wife Major. She's a matchmaker no. She can't help herself. Hates to see an unmarried officer especially one as old as you and after all Mrs Winter is a widow mighty attractive. You could do worse major. Some women are army is when Phil went. Came out to Laramie. He came alone if she seems to fit in fine now. Maybe she's changed women like that. Don't change just the same euless quarter Saturday night. You Better Presenter Compliments Tour Tomorrow Afternoon. That notice tomorrow afternoon. Lee White gloves. 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We're listening to an episode of Court Laramie starring Raymond Burr's Captain Quince has was originally broadcast on Sunday February twenty six nineteen fifty-six in the newspapers of that Sunday sixty four years ago. These were some of the headline Senate Democrats yesterday. Sharply challenged Secretary of State. John Foster Dulles claimed that the free world is in the stronger position relative Borussia now than it was a year ago. A member of the Foreign Relations Committee. Senator J William Fulbright the Democratic Arkansas Question Dulles at length and he told reporter his statement that we're better off than a year ago with respect to Russia taxes my credibility. I can hardly believe my ears. When he said that we have increased our faith in the past six months or year. Senator John Sparkman the Democrat of Alabama said. He found it hard to believe the secretary's testimony that Russia is changing. Its policy because it is afraid of us. President Eisenhower and secretary of State. John Foster Dulles expected to dispel this week. A new positive rejection of Soviet Premier Bulgarians persistent proposal for a Russian American friendship treaty. Diplomatic officials speculated that one way to handle the Bulgarian offer would be to make a counterproposal of a treaty acceptable to the US Britain and France. But they have had trouble finding a formula with who do this within the requirements of American Policy Hartford Connecticut Ashli Stevenson said last night. The Republican Party doesn't know what it stands for and can't know until it here's one syllable. He also spoke strongly in favor of eliminating racial barriers. Gop policy awaits president. Eisenhower's decision on whether to run again. Democrats on the other hand. Stevenson declared stand where they always have stood believing as Jefferson did in equal rights for all special privileges for none president. Eisenhower ended eleven Georgia vacation yesterday. Perhaps with the big decision about a second term already formed in his mind but he gave no new hint in returning to the Capitol on whether he's reached a decision what it will be or whether he will announce it most speculation points the next Wednesday if he holds a news conference then thirdly the Democrats in the Senate and Healthier Adly Stevenson for the Democratic presidential nomination United Press Survey revealed standard support was indicated for other possibilities but a majority of the forty nine Democratic senators still. I'm committed and unwilling to declare choice publicly or privately documents held secret. Seventeen years told yesterday how Soviet diplomats booby-trap Britain and France on the eve of World War. Two papers were counted that Russia lulled the British and French while she proceeded with Nazi Germany on a pack which helped touch off the war. The deception succeeded at least according to the paper's despite Lee six American warnings that something big was put the information contained in a one thousand seventy nine page collection of letters cables and statements. The great bulk of them hitherto secret made public by the State Department at a volume concerning US foreign relations in one thousand nine hundred thirty nine. The governor gearing up for a substantial rise in wage our law enforcement problems when the new federal minimum wage goes up to one dollar an hour. Marks I the five cent increase expected to mean wage hikes averaging thirteen cents an hour for three point one million unskilled and semi skilled workers in. Interstate Commerce. Half of them in the south twenty two million other workers also covered by the fair Labor Standards. Act also earn a dollar an hour or more in Montgomery Alabama ministers of four large population. Centres pledged their support to a nationwide deliverance day. Sit Down March twenty eight to protest. The prosecution of Negro leaders of a bus boycott. The demonstration suggested by Negro representative. Adam Clayton Powell. The Democrat of New York gathered momentum across the country. It Department of Justice in Washington began studying a demand on the White House. Also by Powell that protection a personal and civil liberties be provided the accused the boycott leaders attorney general. Herbert Brownell junior will respond to prowl as promptly as possible regarding the ACC raised that according to a White House spokesman. Well the Fella who said if you don't like Cincinnati weather just wait. A minute should have been downtown this afternoon. Play by report on the weather when something like this one forty five cloudy and Windy One. Fifty sharp downpour sent pedestrians to cover one. Fifty five rain stopped and sun shone brightly one fifty eight snow flurry and send under a cloud two. Pm SON OUT AGAIN. Still snowing two. Oh five right back at the start. Cloudy and Windy. In those some of the day's top news stories is reported in the newspapers of Sunday February. Twenty six thousand nine hundred fifty six on your Radio Port Laramie which continues now on Classic Radio Theater. Who Oh captain Queens afternoon is dated like to present my compliments to Ms Winter? Why yes of course captain only will will? It's very strange but last night caroline asked not to be disturbed. This morning said she wanted to late but when she didn't come out even for lunch and I got worried so a few minutes ago. I not and looked in a room. She's not there captain. She didn't sleep in her bed. Last night kept you going to Miss Daggett. You better tell the major Li Li you make it very simple major Mrs Weston. Who was last seen last night? Pitas and lift some time before dawn with two loaded packed meals to horses one rig sidesaddle. Visit the separatist foyer with a twenty dollar gold piece. I guess it's his resignation. Didn't want to get arrested for disobeying orders. Right there on their way to Lance Creek. They've got at least our start. They've gotta be stopped. Yeah this still alive. How long would it take to get b-company ready to long? Besides the full company up their own mean war you think you can get a small detachment through five or six men. Try if we're caught. We might be able to talk a way out of it. They can't be moving very fast and I'd say I'd catch him about half way. I'll rightly take the menu next remount for each rations for four days. In two hundred rounds of ammunition rounds be enough major. We have to fight it all. It won't matter how much ammunition we have lost at trikes. Kevin there over the course. Oh yeah that's it never believe captain two days from the almost two Lance Creek and still ahead of underestimated that woman. She's tougher and I thought she sure must be Yuppie and they've seen they've stopped when now captain. She gave me an awful lot of money. 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They were friends. All these men were his friends who live with them. Fought with them died with him he. He wasn't alone winter their own buried here where they fell. We see Mr Jenkins My. Stop digging for a moment happen. You don't want me to do this why. I don't think your husband would care about being buried in Arlington Cemetery. Tell me Captain Quince. You knew what was he like out here like any other man. Very different liked like the country. The men like the job. He was willing to die if necessary. You trying to say that. He came here to get away so that he didn't want to go back home and he didn't care about me. Talked about you. Ms Winner captain. All I WANNA do is take him back back to a hero's grave. He's in a hero's grave. Nothing you can do add that. You think I'm a selfish woman. I was thinking only of myself. But my pride you can answer that Mr Winkle in the rich Kevin and they didn't waste any time must have been hunting by. Close that coming down. Let's be thirty at least give us much chance kin. It's important to keep calm is very important right now bringing union here to this. We may be able to get out of it yet. Talbot keep those horses under control and they get those Indian ponies his went. What are you doing anything? Spend half a great job. The way at loves Jenkins Elba. Yes yes sir. Watch hurt stay right behind if the Indians attack you know what to do yes sir. Don't miss. What do you think as an antenna still bunt stained her aunt ain't GonNa be no where uninvited guests and expect much down and string out in stopping right across the only way out. Well they won't come any closer to the graves. John Constantly respectful. The dead even killed with safe as long as we stay right here along than we stay peaked we might try cutting up over the ridge. We break and run where finish. I'll go out to them. Might as well Longo happened. There'll be no defending ourselves anyway and I ms when it's all right now doesn't caffeine. Does well man not worry? I'll be fine now. Everybody will move slowly forward leading your horses movies. Li Don't show any fear or excitement. Part little bear cats. At least he can talk some. That's captain Do the talking hazing. Short GREETINGS TO LITTLE BEAR. Promised stay off. Cheyenne hunting ground. Why you come. We come in peace not war. We don't want trouble with the Cheyenne. They don't want trouble with us. Three DC used out. I know I made them come. The white lady came to find the grave of her husband. A warrior killed in battle. Here she wants to take his body back to his home to Washington. What were the little captain? The captain with the yellow hair one great warrior Indians redmen little bear. The Cheyenne had great. Warriors killed here too but the Cheyenne could take their dead away to their proper burial place will little bear allow us to take this lawyer with us and leave the hunting ground in peace but aleve spirit of dead in Washington. There is a place to bury great warriors with much honour. She will take him there. Better leave buried all right. We'll leave him he's right. I know that now. Philip is better off here in Hero's grave will little bear allow us to leave the hunting grounds in peace bill. Thank you little bear all right. Everybody mound up. Easy will move out now before he changes his mind. Does it look behind turning away. I figure it's all right. We'll keep the horses at work just the same for awhile. Yes Sir thank you look. It was probably your presence that saved us and what you see now for teaching me a lesson. Not Maim is winner. Let's say this country out here. It can get you a lot of lessons. Maybe maybe I was wrong about something to what all just something I said about people not changing just something I said you know we keep moving. We might be able to make the Dagger Social Saturday night. Fort Laramie is produced and directed by Norman macdonnell and stars. 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The apparent front runner now took the early shots the process for citizens to change the Florida Constitution when they feel lawmakers are overlooking. The will of the people could become more difficult under proposed legislation. Here is triple goals. House bill. Seventy thirty seven by Republican representative. James Grant is being pitched as a cost saver for taxpayers an effort to reduce what he calls a proliferation of amendments but karaoke gross with the ACLU of Florida's says the proposals including Senate bill. Seventeen Ninety four would rob voters of their basic rights expressed in the constitution article. Eleven section three. It explicitly provides that the power to amend any portion of the Constitution initiative is reserved to the people the bills short timeframes for sign petitions to remain valid and drastically increased the cost for verifying signatures at our Suzanne POWDERY PORTS KELP FORCE OFF. 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This was originally broadcast on February. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred fifty one the episode entitled. See Me once you've seen me twice whereas no notice just my stock and freight if the job to tell you a hand you got a job for me George Valentine right full details Greetings is always mystery lover time for another. Let George do it adventure. This one carries the rather elongated title of Seamy. Once you've seen me twice now I don't want the kids to lose faith in their heroes but it's all about a cowboy with a broken heart and he didn't get that way from losing his horse either. It was a GAL partner Mr Ballantyne. My name is Wallace and I have just met a girl named Lucy Lucy l'amiral not the most musical thing ever heard. Then I could spend hours just saying it Lucy Lamido and I I could spend pages telling you about Lucy Mr Valentine only. I figure there's enough competition as it is in fact there's too much that's what I want us to you about because if mighty perplexing is told me there wasn't anyone steady. I mean and she's not the sort to go tell him only then who? Mr. Valentine is the man who just told me to stay away from Lucy or he'd kill me this man said he'd kill you Mr while or much value. Just go me while is broken down which is a soda. Something this man you said he said well yes just came right up and set it. Mr Valentine I I thought he must be Lucy's father only when I noticed he was well presumed. I thought he was more likely a brother father brother. Why do you know how men Kinfolk and be about a girl like that living all by herself in a big city protective sort of lives all alone? What was she's never actually said. I guess so right across the street apartment seventeen and that's why I asked you to meet me in this drug store here on the grill. Does all right. For Self City tells over there is one of the fanciest places in town any money. She got honest hard work. She's a working girl. I tell you something or other in the theatrical profession but she is not like what you think of those people. She's cleaning straightforward. Nothing flashy about her at all. Not even pose sale stopping scared to death. We'll get the wrong idea about Lucy and tell us about. I just don't know her very well yet and I don't like prime. There's this man who follows it all the time I've seen him go on it will. That's about all there is. I asked her about him but she's never even noticed but I have. He sits here pretending. You can't make up his mind about the flavor of Ice Cream. The Minute Lucy comes out the door that apartment house he ducks and then he follows it. I've seen it. I tell you private detective George Very. Yeah Yeah that's what I thought one of those I fellas maybe so yesterday afternoon. I seen him wearing over a banana split. I took my teeth. What do you mean I mean I have costed him? I said see here. You buster kind of Caper you well. Well that's all the further. I said he struck me. Oh he was the sensitive top holy smoke. It was awful. He just not me flat and then he said I could stay away from her or he'd kill me and then he walked out with. We're not even food. Well this is nothing funny about it that he would. He was a big heavyset man in an overcoat and a green hat. But that's all I can tell you but he had fish like ham. Look look see on my cheek wearing armor right there. All right yes we know we know. It's I o your giant swollen. Isn't it? He was wearing a ring. Hit me so hard. Not Part of it loosen. He left so fast they didn't even notice the pot here and it was wearing a diamond ring sensitive type with clan. Look at no. I'm not too smart about these things but losing nice girl and she doesn't know what it's all about either. I think somebody ought to find out before. There's any real trouble somebody like me. Okay Brooks to you stick around with wally here. See if you can spot the menace. I'm going to visit the main tent. I WANNA see the big attraction name of Lucic Whether you leaning on the Bell Four Your Lucy. Liberal is an add him to apologize for. Came in your who never mind. I'll call you. Popeye a Canada muscle. Valentine George Valentine Dannon. Laney no sister. It's stupid the blank. Look on my vases bribe. That's all I don't like to be closest. No monkey can look. Brian is he. Showed me your picture? It's you all right. But you're the surprise plow never mind. Let's clear you up. I forgot you're a big success. I understand how do you get that way? Chorus regular him see me. Once you've seen me too. I never mind skipping. I I TAKE CASES FROM IDIOTS. Only a hose. The big heavy set man on the green had a way to win the drugstore and Polisher WanNa see a man named Wallis. Your new one well. Don't you even have one name Wallace? Oh brother that doesn't by by Lucy leave. Achievement can again more often than stanton. Do you think you'll going well under the elevator friend? Keep your eye on that. What's the matter must have overcoat? I wanted to all right then. Don't wave your hands. One of the stones has gone out of your ring. It doesn't look per ride. All Right. Go on doing what are you up? Let's make ideal slowdown. Buster hands off on me. You stay away from her. If you're the one that's been taken her out for lunch she's been meeting kill you hear me out get cut it out. You're GONNA stay away from it like a little. A three ring. Circus is sleep tight. I've got a return engagement with your girl. Stands stylized mad? I don't ring the bell this time. That's too bad. I don't like double talk. Like he gave me four. I called a cop on the beat to haul away your boyfriend down there. Green had too little too jealous for the public. Good also we need some smelling salts. All right now take off the hat and glasses and start making sense. Jose said let they beg your Pie and I only want to know what did you say I? Can you all get out of here before I call the police in the myself? Look Lucy say some more. What kind of an apartment? This instance look look. I've got is I can't be crazy. You're the same girl that I don't see number. Oh the dancer and I've never seen before and if you don't see me once you've seen me twice. Give me those glasses. Blue Blue Not Brown. What are the main name is Adriana and I thought running down the back way when I came up just now. From lunch tour of your. She's your twin sister. Yeah she's gotta be everything else. Is John Being there? He and she's nine new partner. Thank you her hair is dyed though. You might have noticed that if you haven't been so busy confusing the kind of girl. She is with the girl. I am. Listen I I'm sorry. Sure two coats hats little. Even your clothes are identical on a look. You can't blame you. Wear them in the act. I've arranged I first engagement for next week. You've probably never been able to afford the hype nightclub that engages. The Lemerre sister's shadow dancing. But I suppose you prefer burlesque anyway. Oh no no. I'm a loss. Now wait you just said Audrey wasn't your sister. My sister was killed in an automobile accident last year. It took me months and months to find someone who looked enough like me to replace it. The lottery is apparently just had some fun. Confusing you well. It complements me for making such a choice but whatever you're a little problems concerning her rugged admirers I assure you. I'm not interested and I'm very busy so please get out now. Just a minute. Misled Merle that guy in the overcoat. The one Mr Valentine here slugged is a pretty important man. His name's Muskat left the Muskat and he's got a record for the last time it's none of my business myth Murphy perk life of their own. So you can just wait until she gets home please. I told you what this boy Wallace said. Very nice boy. A little too nosy. Don't you think Mr Valentine been following you not Andrea now woody? Wallace and let this Muskat person is colorblind. Where is concerned anyway? I thoroughly don't sway the way audrey. It does when I walk couldn't possibly confuses unless Audrey wanted lefty to be confused most adds an confidence game blackmail shakedown. I'm the one who's confused by this time. Look your office a friend. Who says he's known you for years. You and your sister made a pilot in the past ramp all. I'm trying to tell them as lambro is. I've never liked that. Audrey is is the first time I saw up to go now and Mr Valentine gave me left left. They must get it gave me some go on so I checked the records fast muscats insane with a dumb blonde several times the last year and a name's Audrey. She helped send his playoffs right. Deldot understand how that concerns me. Don't you she's crooked to. You've got a Lotta though. She's worked away into your new partner. Now this is a Dick. I know she seems pretty dumb dumb like a Fox at the must used her as a go between when he couldn't show Lucy please big successful dancer. Hires unknown apartment. Don't you think you ought to be a little bit interested in their personal life? Giving her a good job what did she want? Mason Dixon boyfriend wants to find out. I guess why what's up. What's the reason for all muskets jealousy? What kind of danger are you in nonsense many? Well what should I do all right? Help me check back would you? I hear of Audra. Did you to give it a Java partner. Because she looks so much like me. Oh I see what you mean. There was an agent. I think two or three weeks never dealt with them before but France plane. Call me an arranged an appointment for Franz cling the bookings kind of nightclub specially clings clusters of talent. He called and she can't even but Andrea just doesn't make sense to me. That could be up to anything besides winking at then or sure she's got plus as a talent itself. 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You'll be back in a minute but I don't see any reason why this murder have to have anything to do with Lucy's new partner dear Miss Brooks in one half hour census was reported. We have got witnesses to what the fact that playing was an agent with no license with no visitors except guys on the finance company and with no plans Miss Audrey Murphy. Oh in fact. His desk drawer shows the same thing not much of a death. Not Much of an office of an agent. Oh No people. Next door. Didn't hear any shots or anything. They just confirmed a proactive Andrea. What do you mean up here several times in the last month also out a few times? Where the guy on the evening? Hello how Valentine you know took lizzy home but audrey. It wasn't. They're not losing their no. No only the practice there. She's got room in a boarding house downtown out at home. Landlady wouldn't notice a time. David gave her a free watch. Good case cases like this nice and flare alright. Alright so I bring in nothing. What did you find here just going over his things? George to claim was up to something with audio era such as well he got a job with Lucy. For instance what. It looks like more than that only more of what? Don't ask me okay. Hey Hey hey why are you going? You just got here. I got a shadow. I'd like to get rid of them. Come in wally. I thought I left you back in that drugstore. Make sure I know what's going on if you're Lieutenant Johnson you see. I'm the menace. Started with an I did you know this. Guy Cling No Sir I never met him. Lucy ever mentioned no sir. She didn't know him either. Just man who sent Andrea Tour Holy Smoke? You must've been so glad to finally find somebody you could use it a button. I mean people would notice a difference. There is I mean. Why should lucy go ask and a lot of questions? Why didn't you tell us about Adriana in the first place why I mean why should I was Lucie? That man gift following audrey she was never around there and we're getting a sense out of him. Thanks while he goodbye. Wait a minute Joe Wallis. I WANNA know why you're so anxious about Lucy. Oh well you see. She's got a good deal of money. She and her sister making years past. That's what I mean. Why does that Empress Joe so much? But somebody like Muskat might be accurate or Adriana. He's not the kind of want to work for money. Or this cling man you I mean you. I mean that's why I worry about Lucy so much. Just try and whether the BOYS DANCE NOT. GonNa want it. I said well and stay away from Lucy. We'll look out for. What have you say? Now look my fine grande soy and the boys dense. But he's right. It does all tie together. Have you been going through the stuff in the desk drawer? And that's why it didn't shut the door and look underneath o'clock the matter the rug that'll tie it together. I wanted another diamond from muscats ring this time at the scene of a murder. Why not? 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She talks break the headquarters on twenty two all right little audrey. Hey Hey this is the same phone. I say number less than ten minutes. Let the MUSCATS. That's been only about ten minutes to debtor in macro but what it does want me to come there for. Nothing makes any sense that I but he was killed by the same gun. That killed Mr Clinton here. You are not again Hello Lucy. Hello while I've been so worried about it very slowly smoke. When I saw you needed help I just cut it out when you play another tune. Nobody's been trying to swindle a girl because that's certainly not what Lieutenant Johnson look for him. He's getting dragnet. Upper Audrey Olry. Audrey has been seen a couple of times past here working for left he must get. We know how jealousy was. He was at boyfriend I guess and he swung at both you on me while I was because he was looking for somebody. She'd been spending time with well. That was friends cling. Wasn't it sure? So lefty found who he was and kill them. That's all and audrey a found out what he'd done and killed him women. Don't do things like that. Well she was seen leaving that hideout rum. Nobody else was. I've fallen must've caught or they're just before or just after the murder she have killed Muskat. And there's enough circumstantial evidence to hanging. Oh I didn't know only there's another way it could all workout to like suppose you killed. Both men lose him. See Me once you see me twice. Muskat person was being killed. I was in my apartment all the way across town with bothering me lady. The city towel is pretty plush. And you can't hear the trolleys from there. I remember but I heard a trolley when you fondly so you won your apartment as you said you were well and desperation is not a bad start. Get your on somebody and say you got a note to call some strange number and you give the number where you are by the time I called you. It flipped on the radio. And by then I talked to Andrea. I you crazy why not wallace. I Know Audrey is a separate person. A Lucky double for Lucy here all carefully established but how does she would have been seen as she ever been seen with loose involving all the people in the world of pull a Double Act at twin act you can do it most convincingly Lucy because you really did have a double once your sister who died a year ago how well? Maybe that's an angle you wind up with all the dough at least but I've listened to you Jay let's stick to the present law and mixed up with Musket. I suppose that was you white. Search me unless the guy at some kind of a whole w like your real sister how she died. I will I. Don't tell is look at her. Is there blue. Can't you see that? Yes Giorgadze eyes were Brown. You said so you know. I read an item on the newspaper a month ago. Probably lots of people must have seen the same article. It said that it is now possible to change the color of your eyes with a new type of contact land waiting for Lieutenant Johnson. 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Let's head to Pine Ridge Arkansas and find out the latest exploits of lum and abner as they begin to work their way onto getting their radio station on the air. This episode originally broadcast February Twenty Sixth Nineteen fifty three. I believe as I ring law. Mobley you're right C. L. O. Johnnym nouns door this abner and now let's see what's going on down in Pineridge. Hi there this is Dick Huddleston. Well I guess you know that Lomb has got himself pretty well entrenched as headman and therefore pulled radio station soul. He's pushing things right along and right now. He's trying to prospective young announcer for their station. And wait till you hear who that prospect is now paying attention. Cedric if you want to be in a radio announcer on our news station you don't have to do better than that. I'm trying to guess Mr Rome grannies. I believe even grand pep do a better job. I don't believe grandparents and no condi now All wrapped up in bandages wrapped up in bandages. Here about the fire and the smoke off. He had that newdow they hear. Garfield locked up in there. I know that I remember what about the fire. While GRANDPA was trying to smoke Garfield you know how honor that Noah they wouldn't let grandparents near that. And what about the fire? Was He hurt me? No no you'll never even saying eat already dug his way out for the party started. I mean was grand pampered. Well he fell through the winner in the room from got burned. Little on the arm connolly over team or smoke but she knows something that no orphee Arash in there and say grandparents Paul Him right out of there on ever hear of a dog switching his nature around life at before he won't even let grandpap out of his side center licking his hand. Just love real charity. He founded both grumpy and things settle. Now maybe we can concentrate on our radio station. Come on said. Try this announcing again. Thank I can do that announcing job. You're giving you know you're GONNA have your hands full crank generator I can do that with. My fee is you'll have your feet full yet law. Osteo now. Don't forget I'M PRESIDENT OF THIS COMPANY. I mean to take this position when you insisted on taking me into partnerships with you. Yes no I didn't want to take it but you practical beat me over the head and made me do it. Yeah we agreed that are supposed to take over the production department. You take over the generator department. You WanNa change that now. Well it does seem to me that the whole thing again. He will not let it go. Let it go get your Alma now Genuine cockeyed salmon. Nine ounce cans special today six cents a can knows that you still got it wrong. It ain't six cents a can sixty five cents a can keep forgetting granted. We bankrupt ourselves only for six in none of us watch Sandra and another thing. You got wrong. If it ain't cockeyed. Salmon hit Sockeye Red Sakai Canoga. That would be fun. Kakai and Sam Houston is now which makes too bad enough as it. Is You know if they walk. Set your fish. Event Hawkeye lack. He Mike could hurt yourself swimming around. I'm not seeing where he's bumping. They're would be now. Maybe that's how got cockeyed. Banging his head in everything rock stops the bank. And you gotta get over there and start. Cranking generator goes me and said you're going on the air with spatial announcement. Quick as he gets it memorized. Now all right all right. I must have been something wrong with his eyesight. Firm to run into that can in the first place instead runs through it one more time. See if you can get every word writing your room. Rick Lake Guide. Sixty five cents not six. Am there's more moral Dr Rankin? It'd help any if he wore glasses he ain't gonna read just going to recite it by memories are worried with or without glasses over talking about you. Cedric I mean Osama who of course even if he had them I don't know how to keep them all ain't got no ears to hook him over. We're looking opinion room who I'm Talkin about the patients who all right. I'm told you wants to get over there and start. Generating up to Malacca trace deeper ongoing. I think absolutely to help that little salmon you stand up straight there and they what you're supposed to get jurors salmon now genuine united saying. Wait a minute wait a minute. Sakai not sucking the I and it's red doubted getting software. The radio maybe or wait a while for we advertise it. 'cause I'll turn black and blue there. Make sure we know what we're telling them. So you my first radio announcing job and get off to a good start. Just let me worry about the car that right on the label on the Cam Eighty. Maybe we'll get him some of them glasses like more to were the candidates Pinches on an old got that black ribbon hanging down on or the warning more dukes of the Fish Robert. That fish would more look like more dukes. Neither he's got troubles enough being caught cod looking her arm. Here at all about that cockeyed patient. I understand now just issue Booth Abner. Get back over there and work on that generate. I'm going I'm going all right cedric. Try and get it right this time. We're good without glasses. Get sure AMMO now. Wait WAIT WAIT. Wait a minute. You're pronouncing that wrong. It ain't famine. It's Salman you're leaving out the hell Outta here salmon. Well I used to think that's the way it was announced to that I've seen the way they sell it as a hell in Salman road right there on the label. Now try it again. This year is get your Salomon Noun genuine John you're on red cock or Sakai. Genuine Red Sock is Salman. Nine ounce cans spatial today six cents five sixty five sixty five days a week. You get that right and six five now. Believe about it. Got Enough power generated their abner. Yeah thanks so how good. Let's get on the air and try this out wants now. Don't be nervous. Edrich thing one of our regular programs we won't get around are starting him for a day or two year. Well Mama Pauper going to be listening to me. I hope there's a lot listening. Those we can shut. Salmon Ain't been selling at all maybe about putting the words spatial in there won't sounds a high well. We can't lower it nine Loma just about breaking even as a team has now toll. Martin are running and tell them to listen to me so your to be able to sell some of it. Well let's give it a try now. You don't want to come in now. Don't you Saturday right when I give you the signal you're being asked? I've got everything turned on. Zip The main switch here. I'll get that on here and we're ready to go got that other gadget. Their turn to voice. Good Morning. You all out there. This is radio station. Vp are the voice of Pine Ridge. Speaking we're broadcaster and frequently on the editors and peabody short hooked up network. This is law matters. Chief announcer bringing. You are first facial announcement so yes bronx. Now's the time to buy get it in the big economy. Nine ounce can and make sure you get genuine Sakai thrown. Get It on the spatial prize at the John. Now in store. So you get your salmon. Now we're get your salmonella genuine ridden soccer odds ratio. Today five cents a can turn thing. I'm quick Trenin. All hang on and fake Saderat. Can't you get nothing right? How many times K? Is supposed to be sixty five. I never said fix doing before or made a little improvement improvement going from six aunts down to you went over again right now. We're going to have to have more rehearsals before we go on their way. What was that Armenian? I don't know what my being receive. Hello John I'm down store at mom program or Kansas Salmon. Just a minute Maze Martin. Yeah no that's the price we said on the air but Just let me explain. Yeah the price is sixty five then all no. We never said that. Just to get you down here. I know we said five cents but yes but you can't do that Ms Martin. You can all right. Then we'll send you were Kansas Salmon. Five cents a can all right as Barton much by good by. We can't afford that running on your non do well. That's sixty cents a can. We're sixty times four. That's a lot of money. Just look good. God Law Maricar Ring Magnets. Somebody else's beard announcement. Hello John. I'm down store or hello as beach. Oh you hit it old Islam. Thrill real can your by well cans long. They're going bankrupt. Tried this guy. I don't think that were telling. They got the wrong number. Tell Him Anything. Hello John. I'm down shore. Hello Sister Sampson to. Oh why but sister Simpson. We ain't got more than three cases. Laugh well we gotta say something for other customers well especially Sampson not hello sister Sampson. Hell Oh me. Casey them border history. Sample stuff was family of the head and upper stream in spring down there. Right now Green Green got into and out of the radio business. Greg and anything I ever seen. Palo ain't got none. Oh I thought you somebody wanted to get a few hundred cans salmon short header on on them cleaned out and five minutes. You WANNA buy. What is demanding? Better talked along about their energy. Want don't quite get it. Dick says he wants to buy some time on our radio station Marcham yeah. He said that we get results. Locked added he wants to do the same thing and pay us for. I never thought of that. Give me fever and mean it. Just went back into the radio business This time we're going to sell something side. Salmon we're going to sell advertising to ever outfitting Pine Ridge from February twenty six nine thousand nine hundred fifty three lemon abner on Classic Radio Theatre Lemon Abner figuring out. What a lot of people know. That radio gets results and support this radio station the advertisers. They're the ones who keep the station on the air. You can find our podcast. 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Sometimes you have to make the brakes yourself and then the few months on it give it a lot of thought then maybe for example on the particularly foggy night the prison across the bay. You might have a stroke of luck mean Attorney Ryan. Yeah when I say hello warden. Elsie Amazon's I can Eddie. Yeah Warden Campbell is on his way here what Bugsy Malone just escaped from prison five hours ago about three in the morning. Check with headquarters and tell Lieutenant Conley I wanNA detail a five-man five minutes on the side. Tell Sergeant Greg to put a man at every entrance to the belly. No one is to be admitted without appointment. Call me if there are any question you'll be in pretty careful chief. I know maybe I'm fighting myself. Eddie. He's probably forgotten all about me by now alone. Yeah let's see. It's more than ten years since I last saw I had your job then and Bugsy Malone almost lost it for me. I guess you don't remember. I think I remember the headlines. 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The next night at ten o'clock when Eddie finally is good night for the DA dot com. Just for a chain. He takes the long way that lonely road leading the hill. Okay stop now. Hello bug seen right on time. Why are you saying elamine okay? You didn't slip up anywhere them keys. It couldn't have been followed knows. I don't do this every night. Wi Why is the Dole counted later? This goes with rifle with a telescopic sight. I don't get it. What do I interested in Mr Ryan aren't you what's got? He lives in Shelton. I don't give me that. I know what Planning to walk into the Sterling Hotel and introduce yourself to that. Doesn't ourselves cops in front of the department where I don't have a house in? Shelton about fifty miles. South of town is going there this weekend on Friday night. No one knows it except me as the address on a hill sort of in a state with a wall around it and a gate on the drive there about nine and stop at the gate the two big lights on either side of the gate. I still don't get the rifle is a hill. Right opposite the gate was trees on that silencer and scope. You can't miss just one thing. Bugsy in other chance your taking every cop in the state of the younger Taylor inside of an hour still better than the paint on your wanted was a chance. Now you'll slip up. I know strictly my own idea. Got Rid of the keys. Yeah Okay it's your baby from Huron. We won't see each other again unless unless you'll get caught and if you do bugsy I'm going to hang you. Then that's right any sometimes you have to make the brakes yourself. Da done a good job in the for ten years. Now good for perhaps ten more in the act too long. Dulong when you begin to feel that old age again that urge to climb up there with a real money and there's plenty up there for my. Da One smart enough to inherit the job for you can see it now. Ryan's car pulling out of the darkness into the circle of light at the gate gets out. Fumbles with the lock for a second right under the light. Light at duck on palm the faint wine of the District Attorney. Yes Saturday morning the headlines screen elsewhere. You and you'll promise the suckers you won't rest until he has happened in the death cell the curtain raiser made to order number. You've tried not to think of it during the week but now that Friday. The day in day has arrived. Your mind wandered in spite of yourself. You had to got out of Selbach seven I and there was no other way. Now show me. It was an inside job Eddie. I I'm sorry chief maybe something on your mind. No please go on You were saying you talked to Campbell at. The prisoner was an inside job. And I don't mean inside the prison. My the key to his whole plan was his escape from cellblock. Seven remember the Myers case several months ago. Ascii were some keys presented any evidence the same keys oddly enough that Malone using his escape. What do you mean those keys? Return someone on the police force. Perhaps or even someone in this office all this but why I don't know but I intend to find out the can take care of my loan. As far as I'm concerned I'm vastly more interested in the man who had those keys made while it's still a theory of cost far more likely some God at the prison maybe By the way Eddie. We're leaving at seven tonight. We all get the wrong idea vincent. I'm not afraid it just takes to open gate. Hey it's on the blink. You'll see it has a bar you'll have to lift. You're kidding that's maybe I am but it's true about the game seriously. Eddie I want you with me in case something breaks over the weekend. I already arranged for one of them live cattle. Whatever plans you had my can't Sheva what's the matter with you behind realm the whole very well and we leave at seven. I may expecting an important call from the tenant. Kindly they call tell him. I'll be back late this afternoon. I'll tell Clinton think I'll go out for a little lunch. You look like you need it. Well but idiot and thinking about lunch as he walks down the street unconscious of the milling crowd. Now he's mind other thing it's funny. Isn't it how you can spend six months building? Beautiful House of cards only to have them fall flat in a split second game of a million gates in the world that had to be the one that took to open the matter at. You still might pull it off if bugsy hits the right one and if that locksmiths detail doesn't happen to hit the Little Man. I'm Shannon Street. Who did it oil? Now you've got to find bugs in is gone. You said goodbye to him for good and too late. Got To be another war. Wait a minute. What about the car at Ryan's car up in the public garage allow George Remembers Prevention House Garage Business? The car and sure certain car down they already no one around take off the gas tax. Take OUT THAT POUND OF SUGAR. You bought at the grocery store now. This sugar go then the gas tank. It'll take about ten blocks for that's sugar history. Carburetor and seven thirty in the evening it's all too easy to persuade the. Da The wait. Let Bugsy sit on the hill night. He's got five hundred dollars in his freedom called yet. No not a word G for what time is Six after call from down there come on. Let's go oh you may as well wait here. I'll go and pick up the car. My car has been in the shop for the last couple of days and to borrow one from the department. It's right outside on nights go Should have known. It wasn't work any too simple too many ways out. Something must be wrong with your head. No one in his right mind would have depended on kid scheme like that. At least he's letting you drive something. Anyway IT'S N. Lyles south now coming into Bellevue or the miles to go now. One hour to think of something. You can't think hardest something like a trip hammer. Your Adam's apple is a ball of sandpaper away ahead of schedule. Nine o'clock you totaling. Maybe you could hurry. Cover the forty miles in less than an hour arrive at eight instead of nine. That wouldn't work either. Bugsy operate that way. He's probably been presented noon sitting on the hill with a rifle across his knees waiting bellevue. You've got a chance to take any any com- This is Bellevue. Chief I am. I am a little hungry. Why not wait till we get home? there's a nice little steak place down here. And when I hit a time spos- I buy US dinner. Get down there early all. Come on. Forget you're the one okay but I'm GONNA stick you. Were the best house honest Ryan. I'll be back in just a second autumn either next best steak in the house. Right Eddie you have a better idea now. Thinking a little more clearly. They'll have plenty of time. I over the drugstore across the street. There's a phone booth now. The book There it is. Hamilton's steakhouse get the phone. Number Headquarters mealtime connelly not there. Okay Lieutenant mccray mccray. Isn't that awesome? I'm having dinner with Da. Bellevue place. Called Hamilton steakhouse phone is Washington one. Five four one. Yep Okay got it. Yeah I will be here for a half hour late right now. Wait a couple of minutes Eddie. Let it settle. Dad's IT plenty of time. Okay now well headquarters listen. I've got a hot lead in. Bugsy Malone Tell the district attorney I'll meet him at his office in an hour gone. Wow that's too bad. No one else will never mind. You'll find out who this is soon enough. You know where the A is that. Better make it eight o'clock your time. You're getting cold. I thought I'd better check with headquarters. Nothing mark boy. Did you leave the number? You Know Eddie. I wouldn't be surprised to see you district attorney someday. You're hoping that that was the dumbest. Usually it might be embarrassing if they traced that called five minutes now in minutes if d what happened to them whereas the calm finishing his pie now there isn't much more time feel better. Come on you can finish that cigarette in the car. Oh what about another cup of coffee or we'll have someone we get their waitress much. Do we will be three dollars and eighty five cents. No no this is minds. You know you only owe me six lunches okay. Let's get out of here by the way I'm if ask you. Why did you make that phone? Call across the street We all do sir. I've only been out of order all day. A caught a pass date at twenty miles to go and to strike against. There's only one thing left to do. I have a little Eddie even better than thirty miles an hour even in this hack okay and I still think is right on that key business. We found a little joint on Shannon's Dragon. I'm almost sure he was the one then. Mixed up with a lot of suspicious characters. Did you find anything To travel the old boy died last month on. The warden's still swears guard. All Okay naturally what else can you do? 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You're listening to Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station now the conclusion of the Whistler Gateway to danger as it was broadcast February twenty six nine hundred forty five Monday. I'm going to make a thorough check on every man who had access to that evidence. Good idea matter stomach. Got It wrong all like Jeff. My knee I got a cramp got. Hey helped me what do you say? Gee I'd better get you back to the city. I'm okay I can there. It's okay now these different minutes. What about you. I don't know something to grab me all of a sudden in my stomach about the car. O us not bad. I haven't pulled out tomorrow. What's going on man car off the road anybody hurt? I don't suppose you have anything for pulling out of this ditch. That chain right ear back beat back for luck. Don't suppose we can drive it. I just eased over on the side. What about your name on a hot bath when we got back can't get over? I look guy with chains. That would happen one time in a foul one thousands along the city on the home stretch now winding up the narrow road the gate or the day of judgement the pearly Gate Valhalla. That's a laugh as maybe saint. Peter's will be there to give you a hand when you step into that circle of light a stop here. I'll show you how the Ryan Gate Operator. What's the matter? Why does she? I don't know I guess by some of the picks you up and we get and said I. I can't move my snap out of an. You're acting like a baby. Yeah I'll give you a hand now I'll go. We're behind that pillar and raise the bar up there and pull them here and when I say so I'm going to slug you in a minute. If you don't get whole yourself a pen when I tell you they've been the gate. Glad not even the chaplaincy. You are but bugs easy now in the telescope. He's just the right distance to gain but not quite close enough to recognize a good shot to probably has a nice solid risk for that rifle with a senator of the gate. Right where the telescope sidelined Squeezing tickets slowly now one second more And yes it even knew the cards were stacked against him that he didn't have a chain. The gate that took to open the borrowed car. The telephone out of order is if someone did it on purpose. The desperate lunge into the ditch only to have a car happened by just in time to keep him moving inexorably toward his appointment at the gate. Now it didn't have a chance. And he knew it as he walked toward the gate match into the circle of light and ends up Bugsy site he was waiting for his mind. Frozen into a stupor is legs moving like those of a mechanical robot. The shop report a blinding flash of light across his consciousness cold hand on his heart. That was district attorney. Ryan is still behind the stone pillar working at the gate lever when. What are you doing here today? Did you hear my tire? Blowout scared me to death. Matic Nice Bugsy Malone. We caught him this afternoon. I've been trying to get us. 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Don't take for that suggests look at something Nice. We're both pretty all right. What are laughing I was just thinking. Isn't it funny? What different folks user enjoyment? Sam Windsor. Well he likes to play golf over at the Dunlap Country Club speak may just fairly dotes on a good rousing. Gema. Checkers and Ralph. Bates is never any heavier than when he's foreclosed the mortgage and you know you WANNA do. Lou is looking winded something. You can have pam but then I guess you're just like all women vaulting topic of conversation. Matic here comes and grant impassable he's drunk pro right. What shall we do nothing? Ooh Holds Lazarus saying Oh bird what. Are you doing out at this time of night in the rain? Vince celebrate my birthday congratulate. Yep Sow Courses Hanes held next month celebrating and just the same early better get on Bloomberg. It's raining pretty hard. Edge is rotten weather for the circus. He raised the Mara workers. Yep GonNa have a circus? Tomorrow got celebrate. Where he's saying you girl Nick Swidnik Jeff. Isn't that a shame? It is web at home working to the bone to keep that big family fed and close. It's a crying shame that what Lou. We were talking about different kinds of things that different folks and didn't get enjoyment out now burke. You thinks he's enjoying himself. Just the same as you look in the window. There is no salary Bob. Let's just disease that's all it is. That's all merged webs drinking and is just as much of a disease marie-antoinette rankings measles. Ted Maynard's broken leg only birch. Diseases like many Clark's gossip is disease of the mind. The body right right and all right come on. Let's get on home except the mustard bath for your feet. Don't lean out of that into do not knowing never going to be a circus parade today why everybody has been talking about a week. I've been too busy again. You too busy per second you talk. That's all right now. Don't you leave out to Unicom? Well maybe the specimen can wait till a little bit later. You Talk to the window to see the parade. Oh Look Grant Ferret. Is the ban the band? I see it all right grand. Don't they in their goal? I could say they do look at them. Big Fight Way. I think They're the one piece that Kinda spry aren't they? Oh Cool Avert. Sweep down there below windows. Isn't that terrible? He didn't know it must have been added all night. Cubans student. Here comes another band. Aren't they pretty and just eat those clowns aren't they the one Z? Those elephants coming up behind the clowns running out in front of that. Nobody sees it. Hey Down there. Look out for that little girl. I know that Little Gingrich running out after I'm going down there you get some water. Eighty spread clean sheet out over the operating table. I'LL BE RIGHT. Up With be hurt. Van Packing these redress ration- twenty-five or oxygen blood pressure. I didn't ten over seventy six polls. I can stop this hemorrhage more packing. Respiration and post respiration thirty-three health hundred nineteen. Go Out and talk to his wife. You can't do anything more than here. Come right back. We'll Mrs Adams is vertical right. Dr Adams fixed him up yet now. You mustn't speak too loud. The doctor is doing his best is holding his own. So far. Hold on his own. And what that means maims. Nothing can be done for him. Please go amongst. Burt knew he. Hasn't he needs surgical attention? Must have it. You would only be in the way Mrs Wave. I know you're right. Of course you're right. Oh Mrs Atoms what would we do in cedartown without the doctor? Isn't he a fine man? Though yes he is a fine man and he is going to bring my bird back to me. I know is I. Yes of course years now you sit down again and I'll be back just as soon as I can tell you how Mr Webb's getting along. Oh thank Mrs Adams. Thank you so much Green you turn the oxygen off. I turned it off. It can't do anymore good. I understand you did your best. What am I going to say to that poor woman in there? Maybe I am the doctor. This is my job. Take my gloves off. We of course right you. It has to be done Lou. Will you come out with me? Of course I will? Thanks and Dr Adams is Bertel. No I can see your eyes It's raining raining. Yes he's clear though the rain just let for one day. It is a my peculiar. Grant you your face. I suppose I did kind enough though all anybody could have done. Well maybe I suppose it was. What do you think about well? I guess I was just thinking about that talk. We had nine four last above. What folks saw it on her life? Enjoyment Sam Windsor and his goal Mattie Clarke and gossip beat made checkers all. I think I understand. I think he should go away. I think maybe I better get must've Wrigley field. He I thought maybe we might stroll past rankings hardware store fat but just thought we might look at that. Radio in the window again The family doctor. 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That end in y they do and apparently some alleged white supremacist has been charged with Making interstate threats for calling the police on people and well that is a threat isn't it is absolutely but as surprising that the government would recognize calling its own enforcement team on other people to be an interstate threat. Yeah I mean we all recognize that that he's calling psychotic son people but you'd think they wouldn't be aware of that so this alleged white supremacist. And who knows why. They're alleging that he's a white supremacist. May simply just have an eight channel or whatever he has been arrested for several Virginia swatting events and attempts to Swat New York based news organizations. So it's not just a simple matter of calling the police on people but when when you want someone you do literally called the police on people. I mean it's a bad thing to do. I'm just so for sure. I'm just delighted that you know that the that the government is now saying. Don't call the cops there too dangerous. They definitely are but a Texas man and this is how it gets interesting. Because a matter of interstate threats believed to be the former leader of a white supremacist group was arrested today for allegedly conducting several swatting events in Virginia with plans to call into more in New York. Federal prosecutors said He's John Cameron. Denton being charged with conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States and interstate threats to injure after he and several other co conspirators planned multiple swatting calls. Wow so calling. The police on people in other states constitutes interstate threats to injure. Well I mean they do that. They do indeed and there's probably not allow against Inter Inter state threats to kill your dog. It's amazing that calling. The police on people however is both according to prosecutors a harassment tactic and according to the DA or whoever fouled these charges interstate threat to injure. That is what the police do Mondays. The state is it really supposed to admit that they seem to be exposing their to nature so denton allegedly a former leader of the atom Waffen Division in Texas. Whatever the whatever that is at a Muffin Adam weapon okay. Plans swatting events throughout the Eastern District of Virginia including a Cabinet official living in northern Virginia. And some other places. Prosecutors also alleged that didn't implant the target two more entities in New York Propublica. Office there a nonprofit newsroom that produces investigative journalism and a reporter. Who WORKED THERE? They claim you targeted both after they identified and discussed his role in the abdomen Waffen division so white supremacist to get outed for being a white supremacist. And his solution to that is to call the police on people which. I'm not a fan of calling the police on anyone but evidently doing so can land you facing federal charges for interstate threats to insure. Yeah that's that is. That's a bizarre one. It is but if convicted. He faces a maximum of five years in prison. He's not the only person We know. Who's being in trouble? It seems for making interstate threats. Did you happen to hear any of the update Saturday? What's going on with Christopher Kent? Well I heard that. It was taken under advisement. But that's that's all I've got. Yeah so this whole making interstate threats. Think it's dangerous when we live in a world that has the Internet where it's really easy to to just make a threat more often than not not seriously writing people do this same games and stuff all the time but suddenly you could be facing federal federal charges. Yeah and especially if you're if you're politically unpopular yeah you know that's that's the problem. Is that you know one one group or one person May may make threats with impunity For years anti FA is is an example people almost never take action against anti FA for threats but if people respond in kind to Antifa is it an organization where people can make threats like the atom Waffen division here or whatever they had an actual organization and a leader could make threats in the autumn Waffen? Division presumably could be responsible for that. Long Bennett. Antifa would be more like Well like the keene group of Libertarians. Here you know if one of us was to make a threat against someone. It's not like the king. Libertarians are responsible for that true but nonetheless ANTIFA members do regularly advocate violence. And although I have no love for Nazis the problem is the definition of Nazi spreads and it becomes anybody who isn't a communist and that's not good for me because I'm not a communist also not a Nazi though. Well Yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not a communist but it's not it's I mean I get called and not see all the time because you know I won't get behind Bernie Sanders tragic that we've become so divided that if you're not with us you're against US yes exactly. But that's what government is because government is a weapon. You used us against people so it's a hate exactly so so you know it's politics will always be that way because it's always when you're trying to pass a law you're trying to use violence against people here though now that. I think now that you mention can't well earlier before the show. We have a white supremacist. Who is being charged with making interstate threats? That he made allegedly over telegram. Which is a chat based up and here we have a white supremacist being charged with almost the same offenses for calling the police on people. Evidently he met with an undercover law enforcement officer unknowingly and allegedly told the undercover officer about his role in the swatting conspiracy. Dentin allegedly stated that he used a voice changer when he made the swatting calls an allegedly admitted that he swatted the Office of Propublica and the investigative journalist now one has to wonder at what point in this Arti Swat teams responsible. If you're a SWAT team and you get called to go swat raid a journalists office or a a news office at what point and that is the SWAT team or the people in charge of the SWAT team not supposed to exercise a little bit of discretion go. You know what this doesn't make sense. What would they be doing this news office that would be freaking worthy of being rated by a? Swat team will generally. I mean they're not responsible or held responsible for for the things they do. I mean did. Generally the rule is a peasant screws up. The peasant has to pay a COP. Screw up screws up. The peasant has to pay if the prosecutors screws up a peasant has to pay if the judge screws up a peasant has to pay and if the legislators screw legislature screws up the peasants have to pay. There's a very strong pattern here. Yes the peasants always pay. I don't know if I consider myself to be a Pez. It I know the stateside say consider you to be a peasant Kasumi what they want to this great big club and neither of us are in it know to be in. It's you almost have to be a billionaire or at least a millionaire. I think the average net worth of the House of Representatives is like four million dollars. So it's an oligarchy. All the way through and people just don't seem to get that yeah. They think they think the government's going to defend them from the oligarchy which controls the government and I've never understood that that reasoning and they solution for millennials upset about the role by the rich that we have a corporation to vote for Bernie Sanders multimillionaire. 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Now I was thinking during the break you know we we we were talking about the act of swatting people. Being across state lines Clearly according to federal prosecutors being considered an interstate threat to injure what random what possible ramifications would this have for people in general especially busybodies who called the police on other people like you see all of these new stories of black men being shot because some busybody thought they had a gun and called the police and the police showed up and killed this man. Are we going to see the people who involve the police? They're indicted for interest for threats to injure and ultimately fulfilling those threats. I doubt it. It seems like this is a way to escape. The actual problem which a lack of police accountability instead of holding the police accountable and responsible for these these aggressions. You hold the person who called the police responsible for them. Yeah Yeah no irresponsibly using a dangerous weapon against people yes well. Let's go to the phones. We've got Jason Call Link Oath. I accidentally clicked chaser blue. Wow that was rough jason. Please call back. I did not mean to do that. Yeah I straight to the drop button by accident. I was going for the air button and the wrong one. That's not a Miami is holding an anticommunist concert. Evidently after sanders who we mentioned a moment ago as being one of these rich old white socialists. That people are begging to take care of them for whatever reason but okay awesome. Jason has called back Jason. You're on free talk live. Hey guys how are you? Thanks for taking my call. Do appreciate it. where's Ian? I'm always Miss Ian owes like when he's in the studio Ian is here but He's busy can he come on the camera? Just they hide wave. Oh there he is. I just seen him. Hey what's up e- Eh? What's up tell them? I don't know if he realizes. Did you know that Free Talk Live? This is unbelievable to me. Free Talk Live was like number twenty five or number twenty six on Talker magazine's heavy hundred or whatever for the biggest radio hosts in in all of America. Did you know that? Yeah Yeah we were aware of it. Yeah we we tried out. We're on two hundred stations. Yeah I should say I think it's like two hundred and four at the moment but yeah we appreciate the shuttle. Did you call about any subject in particular? This Earth Libertarian Comfort. So I have to ask Was It free? Talk Live converted you to libertarianism. That's funny no not exactly I. I will say though I had I was very much opposed to the whole belief. System of being a libertarian. I sort of look down on it when I was younger and sort of almost made fun of it in a way but I I had sort of a an inciting incident. Something that took place in my life. That was Very impactful and totally brought me around to the idea of being libertarian. Then what was that? I was kicked in the head by a horse. I see. That's unfortunate. Yeah interesting was it. Police he hung out all that and that. That was the ultimate joke that he had was doesn't like libertarianism. It which is unfortunate because I would have liked to have had a conversation with him about what he thinks is wrong with the ideology. But Hey we'll also we should talk to vermin supreme because you know that may be a way to bring people around. And he's got ponies. He's got lots and lots so we could. We could to have a Week and Evan outreach technique there yeah get kicked in the head by opponent for freedom there you go there you garb it. So Sanders recently came out and praised the Castro regime the thousands of Cubans have died trying to escape from for its literacy program and I will admit if you look at the stats. Cuba has the highest literacy rate in the world. But this is coming from the Cuban government. These socialist cumin government is like taking North Korea's word for it although one thing is generally totalitarian governments will have high literacy rates and the reason is because that's part of their propaganda establishment You know in the process. I mean free. Education is re-education gives the state an opportunity to come in and force ideas into your head. The problem is once you're literate. You can't get anything worth reading. It's not like you can get nine thousand nine hundred eighty four brave new world or atlas shrugged in Cuba. You know you can only get books that talk about how wonderful how wonderful. Communism is a fever revolution. Yeah so Miami will hold an anticommunist concert. In April in response to Democratic presidential front runner Senator Bernie Sanders to fence a Fidel Castro's authoritarian in Cuba according to a report now federal. Fidel Castro is. He's a very much. It says brother WHO's leading things down his brothers from and making some rule some pro freedom very light pro freedom moves or something. He's he's loosened the Iron Grip Somewhat. But but not very much okay. Our city represents the stories of countless individuals who have risked their lives to flee communism said Communist Mayor Francis Juarez Mitch and in Cuba Nicaragua and Venezuela the Miami Herald reported. Of course. They didn't point out that he's a communist but Yeah as you pointed out More than likely the city of Miami as paying for this concert and that the the thing is socialist anyway fighting fighting socialism by socialist means. I hope it's privately privately. Funded but I doubt it. Each and every life that has fled. Communism has proven how the will to pursue democracy and freedom even in the face of oppression can never be suppressed or silenced. He added in an interview Sunday on. Cbs News Sixty minutes. 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I don't know why couldn't think of that. By nineteen sixty eight so within two decades of Castro taking power roughly and we don't have exact numbers here because you know. It's a dictatorial regime. That does it release. You know how many people they killed. But between thirty and forty thousand people were put to death in firing squads within two decades. Yeah when I was making the transition to libertarianism. I was living in Tampa Florida. An Orlando Florida and one of the things that got me was meeting people at AA meetings. Who Were Cuban? And who's who had escaped from an who had escaped from Cuba as a during the Castro regime and hearing what it was really like and you know I it was. It was horrific. I mean they would they would announce. Oh Yeah if you WANNA go to America. We'll let you leave so people would show up and they'd stand in line. It's like okay. Well Yeah we'll let you leave but first we're gonNA throw you'd work camp for a few years and they would separate the families and they would throw them in in work camps and you know if they weren't dead in a few years they might let them go. I certainly don't remember ever hearing any stories about people fleeing the horrors of freedom and capitalism. Yeah yeah nobody's building boats out of garbage to to try and escape to Cuba for a better life so sender said when Fidel Castro came to office. You know what he did and I wish we had Johnson here to do his centers voice for this. He had a massive literacy program. Is that bad thing? Even though Fidel Castro did it no. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it's it's like he's trying to say it as a good thing that Castro did in order to outweigh the forty fifty thousand people who were estimated to have been killed by firing squad not to mention the people who died in work camps and things like that. The the nightmare. Yeah now you'd Elian Gonzalez family in a CNN. Townhall Monday nights sent sanders double down on his remarks saying that Castro went out and they helped people learn to read and write. The truth is the truth. And that's what happened in the first years of the Castro regime. Yeah I can just imagine the guy you know about to be put to the firing squad and and you know the priestess counseling them and says you know this is really awful that they're gonNA kill you but you know but but in in a few years we'll have a fifteen percent higher literacy rate so you can take some comfort from that. We'll according to the numbers released by the Cuban government which aren't going to be reliable because their numbers released by the Cuban government is almost ninety. Nine percent is the highest in the world. Yeah it's fifty percent higher than it was before he took over as my as my understanding but it is still ally in. Nineteen eighty-four when they were talking about manufacturing boots in all likelihood there were no boots manufactured at all in a likelihood. The literacy rate in Cuba hasn't changed Cuban government just wrote down that it had that that may well be true. Certainly there's I mean it's hard to say because the Cuban government lies but the American government also lies so do the Eh exactly everything. The government says is a lie in everything they have is stolen. So it's really it's difficult to know what the truth is. So senders comments immediately sparked controversy in south Florida. Where many who escaped Cuba under Castro now live Suarez said the Vermont independent left out the evils of Castro's role? Mommy even even Adolf. Hitler had some positive social welfare programs for the German people. Mussolini made the trains run on time. That's what he was famous for. So it's not like any of these evil. Dictators have not done good things for the society but at the same time they did that with the with the blood of tens of thousands or even millions. How HIGH LITERACY RATE HAVE TO BE JUSTIFIED? The murder of fifty thousand innocent people. I would say I I can't even begin to approach to calculus of. That's of that question. I don't I don't know how to I. I don't know how to make that calculation. But that's the calculation that Bernie Sanders and people who support him and Fidel Castro. Expect us to make. I would argue. Listen to what he said. He didn't say you know he he did he. He did the literacy program so everything was good he did. He did acknowledge that. It's a dictatorial regime. That it's that it's a you know. But but then he throws that out as kind of old. But it didn't do this you know and I don't know what he thought he was going to accomplish with that. I really don't and he said this in Florida of all places it would seem yeah. It's the wrong place to make that statement because you know if your family has been killed by that Had By that particular dictator. Here not GONNA be. You're not going to be impressed with that statement. It's not it's it's not gonNa work for you but that's the ultimate and progressive arrogance. Though is you you have this old rich white dude from Vermont. Going to Cuba lecturing all the Floridians. About how great. Socialism really is and. Yeah you may have to kill forty or fifty thousand people but you know what you increase that literacy rate by fifteen percent. Yeah one of my favorite Bernie Sanders spoofs. He didn't actually do this. But was a was a Article I think the Babylon be saying that. He was going to Hong Kong to try to educate the protesters on how good they really have it under communism. I'M NOT SURPRISED. I mean we do have people who fled the Soviet Union people who fled other communist dictatorial regimes coming to the United States. Who go out to these pro. Sanders have instant these pro-communist marches and things like that and start asking. These typically millennials questions about communism that they clearly don't know the answers to and the company wants to lecture these people who fled the very horrors that they're talking about on how no it totally wasn't like that and if it was like that then it was just misapplying what they were actually supposed to be doing. And if they were applying it correctly they do the very same gas lighting support of communism that trump supporters do in support of trump. Well he didn't mean that and if he did mean it wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah and that's what you hear about. Communists well that wasn't real communist manifesto was real communism. Well it simply wasn't real communist was never will. Communism almost communism sure did kill a lot of people in the last century though. Yeah compared to almost capitalism which generally doesn't have a very high death toll. 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Two Thousand Twenty one the VHS. Detailed the CRYPTO Chrissy intelligence program. A crypto Chrissy centric initiative to trill unlicensed crypto companies partaking in money laundering services activities. Now you have to remember. The federal government's definition of money laundering is so broad that almost anything will fit your money liberty. Maybe I think that's the word like any time I hear laundering. I hear like really liberty. Because they're pissed about you using the money somewhere and away. They don't like that asking. So the CRYPTO. Chrissy intelligence program identifies unlicensed money. Services businesses in the form of independent cryptocurrency brokers use of peer to peer sites presumably like local DOT BITCOIN DOT COM and probably local BITCOINS DOT com. I don't know I I don't know what they're up to either. Vertical say if they're outsourcing this or they have their own little team they're doing I'm thinking they're probably outsourcing. They seem to have their own little team. That is that is part of the Department of Homeland Security because there are companies that do this sort of thing happily for a nice big fat government checks. So they're also looking at online forums and classified advertisements and dark net markets to engage in unlicensed money services. Businesses activity reads the overview. Oh wait developed by the bulk. Cash Smuggling Center. I can't even imagine that is an investigative. Borough tasked with hunting illegal funds. So has the neighbors that agency the bulk. Cash smuggling doesn't sound like a government agency. It does not that sounds like something that is avoiding a government agency right poorly with the name like that. It's like alcohol tobacco that should be a convenience store not a government agency for the people that work there the CIP will hone in on funds originating from narcotics proceeds which allegedly make up a large portion of unlicensed activity. Now this this long been make that's long been proven to be not true. Even even the government has admitted that you have a lot of talking heads who liked to tarnish crypto currency by saying that. Oh it's only used to illicit drugs on the dark web and things like that but then you have the the guy's never used for that and then you have the government coming on going. Yeah no that's that's not at all really what's happening. Those people would use minero. Maybe but they're not using bitcoin that they were like eight years ago. But now okay. I having been on the dark web. There are definitely still people using using bitcoin on the dark web years away from going to prison. I would say so. And that's kind of the kind of the purpose of this of this agency but we're really lucky there won't be any prisons in two years. That's fair well okay. I don't feel lucky though. Yeah I don't know I can see this whole government falling down around their ears relatively quickly because you know the level of hatred that you see now between the people who who want to control our lives from the left and the people who want to control our lives from the right is is truly truly astounding. I've never seen such vitry. All economic collapse is more likely than that sort of think. Especially you've got this corona virus there I don't know people are paying attention and China but China's about the starve. You know they've been having to throw away just massive amounts of food because they had no one to no winter park I it was someone to harvest it. They couldn't deliver it because they're under quarantine so it just sat there rotting or it was covered with the virus or whatever. I don't know it sounds like some sort of way. The government just going to call some people. Oh they're calling some people all right. Yeah and it. It seems like from what I've been seeing that at the same time they're dealing with this virus which of course may or may not be real but that the virus Israel it. It certainly seems that way. If if it's if it's a fake they're doing an excellent job ad well it spreads him. Italy and Iran as some other places now a year well as soon as it spreads to a place where the government doesn't lie will know for sure but there isn't any such look. Where is that place exactly there? There's no place true but in a lot of these places has not the government that are treating patients of the corona virus. True is I quote private doctors and hospitals true ultimately funded by the government but not really government employees. I mean they're government employees in the same sense that we're all government employees whether we like it or not Because we all ultimately not all of us some of US use cryptocurrency and avoid servicing. The state But most people are servicing. The state in one form or another I think by default were not trustworthy of anything. That has any sort of government tentacle anywhere near it. So and there's something bad you don't have any idea what to believe sometimes and that's that's the bottom line although I I personally think that that is going on that it. Is You know that that the viruses actually real. I think I actually think they're they're minimizing. What's going on rather than blowing it? Out of proportion which is unusual and generally means they're really scared about trump's from China you know if they admitted the if it was much worse than than they've suggesting then all of these goods that people buy from China on a daily basis are going to be tainted with that virus because it lasts for weeks on surfaces Quite possibly and also you know we get a lot of our medical. We get a lot of our drugs from China. 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Bitcoin is still the most widely used currency on on the dark web markets that I have seen which is not what I would. I would like to be saying that it's Manera I'd I'd to be saying that it's that it's something different but it does seem to be Bitcoin giving would be using dollars if they could like. If you could use your credit card wouldn't stop anybody certainly use it the thing is buyers. Sir. I mean they don't have time and energy to go after the buyers on the dark web they do have time and energy to go after the sellers sometimes but the seller is are generally overseas Or at least most most of the people I've bought from overseas. I don't I don't think that's a statement. You WanNa make on national I only by constitutions of course perfect by anything really. You can't use you know anything your toilet paper. I don't know why I guess if you could buy toilet paper with Bitcoin it would be preferable to buying with USD. Yeah there are some websites Open bazaar had had That still exists. There I've recently learned about a new one and it's just it's a marketplace. Maybe some people says and thank some find objectionable but it certainly like a kind of an Amazon or whatever sort of online shopping site you go to buy whatever thing you need interesting so it is common for unlicensed peer to peer exchanges to obtain their bitcoin from selling illicit goods and services. I'm sorry did I say common. Yes I said Okay. I thought for some reason. I said uncommon so I says that. It's common for unlicensed. Peer to peer exchanges to obtain their bitcoin from selling illicit goods and services on dark net markets now presumably would thinks those people out there who were selling crypto currency on pure exchanges is are doing is selling drugs or weapons or prostituting themselves or whatever on the dark net and turning around and selling that crypto currency on like local bitcoins. This is a thought crime because like if you think about you can't really touch the bitcoin or bitcoin cash or any of it. So it's just an idea and you're just sending this idea across some other idea and then they're going to put you in jail for your idea. That's that's the definition of a thought crime. It is for sure because we have to think about that idea right or it's not an idea we're not thinking about. Bitcoin or CRYPTO currencies. In general are better. I think a lot of these dark net sites would not take crypto currency will not take credit cards and things like that if they could of course not because credit cars despite being traceable and all of that or eat more easily traceable they're very easily reversed and you can't reverse a bitcoin transaction not watch got one confirmation you can reverse it till then well with bitcoin. Maybe yeah and if the Wallace supports replaced by fee right but is it even a transaction if it doesn't have confirmation so well the transmission the it is a transaction in transaction exists in the meme pool. It's just not on the blockchain yet. Fair enough wants his. In the blockchain it cannot be reversed with a without a hard fork. Which is what did they had like. Eighty million dollars with a theory hacked back in two thousand sixteen. I think it was just said reboot. Yeah they did and I don't support it there and because of that well classic amount was like no the code at the time allowed for that to happen. Maybe the code was bad and you can change the code going forward but if crypto currency is ever going to work the code has to be law. You can't just read content and say oh well that workout. So we'RE GOING TO CHANGE. The value of eighty million dollars worth of tokens hard money. It's hard a hard money for me. Is One that the rules are really hard to change when they jacked those wallets from the from the Silkroad though for example. If you're minors. Yeah the government jacked. They stole and oxygen a bunch of Bitcoin. If the miners had gotten together and said we're GONNA fifty one percent ourselves and make that. Bitcoin turned dust in the government's hands. Then I would. I would have had absolutely no objection to there to there doing that either. But I would stop using their currency because I don't want a crypto currency where fifty. One percent of the miners are ever going to agree on anything because they could just as easily say. Well let's just give ourselves ninety nine percent of all the bitcoin out there but of course if you do that then you've given your you've destroyed the value of of of your own your own so true you know you own. You know you've got it but now nobody wants well. Maybe not ninety nine percent. Maybe just a larger chunk of every transaction or whatever. Yeah I'm fifty percent what we're talking about. There is essentially a democracy and the fifty one percent being able to unilaterally control. Whatever happens on the network and as a as a freedom person that makes me nervous though that had that it it it definitely makes makes me nervous that it that it could be misused but at the same time if they had done that particular thing I would not have I would not have held held it against them because you know even now even now I know that fifty one percent could do whatever they want you know I just. I don't expect them to destroy. Destroy the value of their own investments. I don't know why you don't. The bitcoin miners ultimately decide. You know where they program and goes have been doing everything within their power to destroy. Bitcoin certainly some have but a lot of and you know that's why we've got things like bitcoin cash. Yeah but I mean. They haven't been doing everything in their power in that if they wanted to. They could REDO RANDOM. Fifty one percent attacks on on the network. They've just not chosen to do that. I suppose at any rates. I don't like the idea of fifty one percent of the network being controlled by ultimately a coalition a union of people who have their own agendas and ideas and I don't know if crypto currency can ever really avoid that possibility it would certainly be D- It would certainly be difficult to To avoid it's always a possibility because you know if if if they want to run a different version of the software. There's no way to stop them. You can't make them continue to provide what you consider to be the correct answers if they want to provide incorrect answers and that's literally how we ended up with Bitcoin. Cash was that some of them wanted this answer. Some of them wanted another answer and it forked. Yep I got two different chains but people who were holding a lot of Bitcoin at the time where super happy about it we have yet and certainly a consolation prize for somebody. Well Yeah I mean you get your bitcoin and your bitcoin cash. That's a beautiful thing. I I was very pleased and then went. Bitcoin CASH SPLIT INTO BITCOIN. Cash and Bitcoin. Sp same thing happened. Anybody who is holding large amount of Bitcoin cash was very happy with the outcome and Bitcoin. Sv As I understand it. So Toshi Vision by Craig right here in. Yeah he That's what we're referring to there. He is a lunatic. But it's the currency itself. Seems to still be doing okay. Yeah he's got the ticker an operative. I think he's probably just a lunatic. Eight five five four five zero three seven three three. This is free talk live. Gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure. Investment Historically mcelhinney. Ica's been helping. 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I just dealt with for almost an entire month but did you die. I'M NOT GONNA die of the corona virus. Either it only kills like old very sick people. Yeah I heard on a podcast last night. That technically no matter what disease kills you. You're very sick before you die. So okay and they referenced. What you just said about it selectively killing people and The podcasts are mentioned that it was maybe not a good not a bad thing that all the old people of the world die because a lot of those people are in the power structure. Obviously there's more obviously more old people than you would die but most of the people are really controlling things. They're probably the oldest well from what I've seen if you're likely to die of you monia or the flu then you're likely to die of the corona virus but if you're likely to survive the flu or new. Monja then you're likely to survive the corona virus. Yeah it's mother. Weather man made it or not mother. Nature made man and man made this. Oh she's like no one way to sort of shake off mass excess stuff here. Maybe maybe maybe it's a secret. Answer to the social security being insolvent problem maybe like hey we can't we can't pay for all these old people killing with the corona virus. Not but I wouldn't doubt it. I mean I can definitely see that. See that happening. I can see it being being culling technique. This is all these random us just ideas. I have no proof of this. No I don't believe for a moment that the government is trying to call old people. There's no telling man these days the WHO the Chinese government possibly but not the American government at this point. The American government screwed up. But it's not quite far gone enough to be like. Oh just kill all the old people. The Chinese government sure I could see that But they they harvest. They kill people to harvest their organs and things like that the American government as yet does not really know you or if they do. They don't admit to it like the Chinese do but as fierce spread of a wider corona virus outbreak in the United States. I I don't know why there's been like what twenty reported cases in the United States. I don't know who reports the news outlets. Yeah CDC which tresor honesty especially outbreaks because by the time you know that this virus exists in the DISP- reading it's already too late to prevent its spread. Yeah because it's got a very long incubation time. Yeah and that's going to be true of most viruses though even if his time is only like two days or whatever own one day by the time you know that it's there and it's spreading. It's already you know it's there and it's spreading because it's there and it's spreading right as you can't really stem that it's just going to do what it's GonNa do. Yeah pretty much. So fears are spreading a wider corona virus outbreak in the US and experts in global health. Pandemics as well as some of President. Trump's leading political adversaries contend that the federal government's response may be lacking a key figure what they call corona czar as though they don't know what that word means. Some other guy tells people what to do. Yeah basically well king a Russian King Mu Russian kings were well known for being autocrats. Yeah I mean it's derived from the word Caesar ultimately that what they want is an appointed not elected and appointed dictator. Who because of the corona virus can just decide things and forces everyone to obey? What what what kind of lunatic. Once that there are lots of them out there. Well that's that's also where the word dictator comes from as is the if you look at the government of ancient Rome. That's what they would do when they had a had an emergency as they would appoint a dictator. And just say okay. This guy is going to solve the problem and we're GonNa let him do whatever he wants to do it. Yeah and the last one. They did that with was Julius. Caesar and really yeah. He became the lasting dictator. That created the Roman Empire. See I did all. I know about Caesar. I know from the play. Julius Caesar and and so you know there's a limit there but I'm not sure if he had taken over as dictator or if those who killed him were merely afraid that he would be sure. Caesar was a decorator. But I I don't know I would have to look up the real the history of that so this is what they want. The trump administration to appoint a person as czar to implement a plan to manage the corona virus an independent nonpartisan global health expert with real expertise. Send Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Somebody. Who is a scientist who knows these issues and coordinate the myriad of federal agencies to fight and prevent American lives from being lost so they talk about where this guy worked before being appointed whoever this the news are like? Oh we don't have one yet. Well I saw a picture of somebody there that maybe it was a possibility and point being good chance that the SARS coming from some probably Drug Company. That may be mature. Yeah absolutely the current Head of Human Health and Human Services Secretary is Alex Agr. He's been leading the trump administration's corona virus task force because they've developed a task force. Yeah so where did that guy work before he got that job? That's good to know because there's a good chance let's just see here's a fifty two year old lawyer and former drug company executive but of course. Nobody sees this. No and it's it's amazing isn't it? That is just flagrantly staring them in the face. This is just about money. It's about funding by funneling. Money to trump companies eight five five four five zero three seven three three. This is free talk live. Do you WanNa work from home. Get paid and forward liberty all the same time. Freetalklive is looking for account executives and appointment. 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I don't have any room left on the back of my car for bumper stickers but if I did I would go there by some appeal off or put that on top of it. I was really disappointed. I love all the ones how got right now on the side. I don't WanNa do. I was really disappointed earlier today though when I went online to find a Bitcoin lanyard and cannot find one. I get some custom-made but one that's already made you buy an order and it shows up. Yeah well there you go maybe get some custom made and somebody will buy them from you not too lazy for that. I just want one making you call Bitcoin and talk to them about that. It's okay to use the name. I'll have to ask crawl. Bitcoin does bitcoin. F A phone CRICHTON others and he sa- Toshi so he would know right crank nurse on the snotty into my meat little and my point was. There's nobody to call and ask for permission so nobody cares. Do whatever you want. Well it's through one of the. Did you happen to see win? 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Couple if you may not be able to view all of the transactions set from a specific wallet but you can view everything sent to that wallet and if you have enough time you can trace the bitcoin all the way back to the Genesis Block. There's enough information there. And apparently there's enough computer power to pull in all these different factors and then make a decision about like okay. That was you that sent all that. Bitcoin and one of the companies that does this investigating up. The chain is called chain analysis and they have a lot of contracts with the federal government it would seem including the the FBI ice the IRS and the SEC and of course the TSA their biggest contributing government agencies are the IRS and the FBI no surprise to find the irs being the biggest contributor to the tune of one point six million dollars last year. Evidently that's not a lot of money so that Kinda makes me think that one. This program is exceptionally good. It's probably not the case private companies so they are probably pretty good at what they do right but those numbers are not big government and I mean a a room full of people or access to a program that has really that good. It's only a million bucks. The what little. I know the people that have bitcoin knowledge. They're happy to give it but they're really really smart people. They're not going to deal with this. I wouldn't want the money from the government anyway. I think that's why they were hard pressed Really do much so I think the numbers are low. Here's our Maybe they're just easy. Picking the easy stuff like people who are moving bitcoin from exchanges where they have to know the person than they have to give them all sorts of identification could be. Well it all started with nine thousand dollars data software contract for the FBI in two thousand fifteen. Evidently that was the year in which China Asus wrote some software for the FBI. Which I don't know about anybody else out there but I don't like rats. Yeah I wouldn't take that contract but just five years later. Chain Allison is now. The crypto currency tracing equivalent of Pailin. Tear the data analytics company flush with lucrative government. Software contracts. Chain analysis is as of right now doing millions of dollars worth of business each year with the US government dwarfing its competitors in the young industry of blockchain surveillance. The company is by far uncle. Sam's leading crypto analysis contractor by spending and has become the go to firm for ten federal agencies departments and bureaus I to the trough in short defense want to catch up on and make sense of detangled transactional web of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to stop quote all sorts of crimes. And they'll spend big to do it although as great put it out one point. Six million dollars really isn't very big spending for the federal government. They spent four times that much. Still bid to build a crappy bathroom in New York. You know yeah I imagine that the debt number whatever that many trillions of whatever dollars it is now twenty three trillion. I don't imagine it goes up in like every second probably goes up a million or something so whatever. The number is this is federal agencies. Have you can go to debt clock dot org like watch it trace up in real time. It's it's a fun experience a terrifying experience when you think about the fact that you know this is destroying the money that people live by But yeah you can go to. Which is the best reason to get out of the dollar? Oh absolutely but federal agencies have spits at least ten million dollars in American tax dollars on channel six tools. What's interesting is that they have fit any of Americans bitcoin on these tools. Services and training says two thousand fifteen when analysis was founded according to eighty two records federal procurement contracts reviewed by Coin Desk. I think they sell all that because I've I've heard it and it makes sense to me that if they hang onto the bitcoin like in hopes it might go up because hey just happens to go up most of the time that that would legitimize the thing. They're saying is illegitimate because now they believe in it could be a fire sale. All that stuff pretty quickly. Yeah they auction it. I think so I think by a good way to acquire crypto though were yeah. I don't know how that works. But they have the guns. They do what they want. Yeah County contracts possible extensions. The company stands to take in more than fourteen million dollars no competing firms federal contracts match analysis and none are as prevalent across agencies. Cypher trace led by CEO. David Jevans has made about six million dollars through mostly research development contracts epileptic elliptic. Sorry a British firm has had only one contract worth two thousand forty four hundred fifty dollars with the irs that that Hor thousand dollar company contract. Wow these are the early days. I imagine Kennedy's numbers go up. I can't meet imagine even like negotiating with the federal government for that kind of money. Because it's like you know you need a dozen lawyers to deal with these idiot. My local town charges like that much is charge that much a month by their software system that runs the town so that is not even worth mentioning you know. They mentioned it to good show. You know there's people out there that don't really care about it and they're just you know they're they're coming to that trough and they're going to lap up all that good stolen money they are and you know. I guess it says something that the IRS is willing to pay two thousand four hundred dollars to some random. British company for cryptocurrency. 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I lived outside New Hampshire. It was like my my Goltz Gulch period. Where it's like. I could go and I could interact with people who you know recognize reality. You know people lewd. Who weren't trying to solve problems with with government and that's just good for my mental health. Yeah I certainly agree. I like being there. I did seem like it'd be a really cool place to live can find some way to live there and like Sort of sustain myself my family and I'd certainly try it for a bit. I mean there's been talk about buying that. Campground would be a great a great. You know free stater colony. I think what people start talking like that. I start separating myself from the discussion partake in a commune for a colony or any of that. I mean you're in a town which is a colony colony. Well I mean there's no colonial power overseeing us some kind of power sure your group group young growing living together is technically a colony. But no I didn't I didn't say let's turn it into a Commun- another I've heard so many people thought the word Commun- around in regard to I don't even know what Mike as well generally sounds. Colty a commune would be something. Where the I in? In my view where where the property was commonly held. And that doesn't that doesn't make sense to me but a mobile home park makes perfect sense to me. I don't mind some person or entity owning it at that I can call and get some service from toll it stopped hailing you come fix it or The power went out or whatnot. Yeah I mean I just don't want to convince have to convince the majority of my neighbors is a good idea to fix my toilet because the majority my neighbors don't care so getting back to this story about chain. Alice's their contracts opened a small but prescient window into the federal government's relationship with the cryptocurrencies. That some use to evade detection. I don't I don't think they know what cryptocurrency is how it works now they pay a company for that and you're paying them very much so being coin pseudo Sudan Saddad animus system. It's at where it's Kinda anonymous but maybe not so who knows why not. Just say pseudo anonymous I mean that it would be so much easier to look at an pronounce conduct with inherent traceability a network moving billions of dollars in value unemployment public ledger. That anyone can track like seven hundred thirty billion dollars last year transactions. That was the number I heard also from the this youtuber. Wow that's like more than mastercard and other places I can find that article too but that's it speaks to the volume of the thing that nobody you know. They don't believe in some of US believe in it and although chain analysis data shows only one point one percent of bitcoin transactions were illicit in two thousand nineteen that proportion is growing and is up one hundred eighty percent over the year before so two thousand eighteen. Something like point. Three percent of or point four percent of BITCOIN transactions were illicit in twenty two thousand nineteen. It got all the way up to one percent. It was how does anybody gotTA WE GOTTA get? Those numbers up does a rookie number. But I mean that's just proof from this agency that is being over backwards to work for the federal government. Evidently and they're they're coming out saying yeah. Ninety nine percent of BITCOIN transactions are not elicit more ninety eight point nine percent rather yeah government. Money is Fiat. Money's easy money kit. Do cocaine with the road up. Bitcoin I don't see anybody has. Maybe maybe the goal back create a bitcoin go back and puts US gold. Back can serialize the gold bags like the the cash cassation coins. Were you could print out a paper wallet and snort cocaine through that too. It might not break down as bad. God that that is that is that is true. I'm not I've never tried to roll up to Boston. I'm try to roll up. Go back. I rose perfectly. I'm sure cocaine. The cocaine Rolla goal outlets but it would take science. Let's just see whether or not is even possible. It looks like it would be but it would probably not be super good for the bill for those who don't know what the go back is. It's really piece of technology that has real gold in it. That is pretty durable. It's in the shape of the little almost like a dollar depending on the size of the gold back and I carried one of my wallet for quite a bit. And it's seems to doesn't really care just as probably more durable than the other thing and it's certainly a lot prettier. I was definitely more durable than the USD. Which is just paper. I mean this is. This is privately made thing which is more durable than the USDA. Yeah plus it has actual goad in it. That is the understanding now. I saw someone post on facebook because you get one of these for free on some website. I don't know what and I don't really care but you can get one for free when I posted on facebook because I talk about the fairly often his i. Hey I got my free one Blah Blah Blah Blah. I feel so rich being sarcastic. Well to be fair you are richer holding that then you would be holding an entire stack of one hundred dollar bills printed by the US government. Yeah it's a good chance at some point that big stack one hundred dollar bills ain't gonNA get your roll of toilet paper. Yeah the only thing keeping you wealthy when you're holding. Usta's that other people will take it an idea although if you did have a stack of hundred dollar bills. I'm sure the gold backs people would would trade you more than one gold back at present s at at present now So I don't know I see I see gold backs as a as a it's way of actually holding the the value of my money. In stead of you know having again dollars that are going to deteriorate every single year people say minimum wage hasn't changed in X. number of years and I'm like why should minimum wage have to change. Why should the valley? Why should the money beginning less valuable over time? Anyway I I think an economic collapse of the United States government is ultimately inevitable And if that if it goes the full distance into a full economic collapse cryptocurrencies essentially be worthless for awhile. Because no one's going to have TRYSOFI and in that scenario the gold box become very very very very valuable Certainly during a net outage. You know you can't use crypto not completely true. Yeah you can use ham radios stuff like that. 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Two Thousand Nineteen also a twenty two thousand percent increase from two thousand fifteen all to investigate this one point. One percent of BITCOIN transactions that are allegedly illicit in some way. Yeah this is from an article that is talking about the various amounts of money. That's being spent to find out where the bitcoins going. What AGENCIES ARE SPENDING? What yeah and according to them This company that takes several million dollars a year in government contracts only one point one percent of bitcoin transactions are elicit which is probably about the number of USD transactions in a given year. Although that's so much harder to trace transactions. Yeah if in fact I would imagine it's probably higher with the USD based on the people who were just buying like twenty five dollars with a weed or whatever here and there the paper of course but the USDA in the bank that's certainly very very traceable. Sure Yeah you have to ask permission at each point along the way to send it. So there's lots of little gatekeepers and saw somebody in there can say no matter of fact we're going to keep your money and what account you don't have an account anymore? Who are you man? I've been through that so many times with banks Jack the money they usually will send you a check of eventually Jackson Mike Money but oh yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah I'm going on six and a half months now that capital one has been holding one of two of my accounts essentially hostage. Oh Wow yeah just consider that money gone if it ever shows up one day. Be Really you know. I'll well look. I was tax return. Yeah and these were like small accounts or anything. They were fairly successful. It was in my early days of it was one of my earliest account ticket. Shut saw me. I was doing the transaction volume than I am now but it was. It's more money than I want. Capital one to have at the very least. What's funny is that these. These idiots are continuing to pay interest on my accounts that they have frozen and froze in early August. So if you get your money back you might get a little Bonus to go along with it. Yeah I mean very slightly because what what is the actual amount of interest bakes. Pay ON ACCOUNT IS Super Low. One Percent Maybe. I got us even one percent. Yeah I think it's probably been five sets between both accounts in the last six and a half months while there's still some every every single month he's idiot. Send me a statement. The only thing on that statement is the interest gained for that month because I cannot use the accounts that these idiots have frozen. There are lots of people there that need jobs. And that's what they're doing is sending out this randomness and it's impossible to get in touch with them. You can email them. You can call them but they'll they'll call you back and then of course they never do. If you just figured. The money's gone just their surrender and knowing that like now there's nothing really do about it so it's like the post office if something goes wrong there. There's you can complain all you want. But nothing's going to happen. Yeah I actually I I went into the TD bank down down on West Street. And I'd be I'd I gave them very loudly my opinion of the situation and all of a sudden. I could get them on the phone after that because they didn't want that to happen again. They didn't like it very much. My experience with td was relatively benign. I mean they did close my account within like three weeks of even opening the thing but they gave me my money then that at the time that they closed the account. Yeah they held mine for like three weeks and they wouldn't. I could not get any response out of them and finally I just went in and I did. I started chewing ass and that that fixed it and none of these problems exist with cryptocurrency. Nope don't have to ask for anybody. Well you shouldn't have to ask for anybody's permission. If you have like a coin basic count or some other news APP you have to log. Into and likely gave them your. Id you likely holds a bitcoin. Or whatever crypto. Does you have a picture of it. But if you're using the edge wallet or something like that then you don't need anyone's permission to use your crypto currency careers. No one who say no. We don't want you to complete this transaction so we're not going to allow it to that system is still got some back in. They all do they all have to talk to something on the back end so if something went down it's quite possible that the real way is like you have a dedicated computer that has the whole copy of the blockchain for whatever currency you want and then like that way. It's supposedly not you know you can't can't be blocked that way but truth a lot of work in that so be your own. Bank comes with a lot of responsibility so the. Us government is now spending more and more money to trace these the small number of illicit transactions. That I can't even imagine what people are buying on the dark web with bitcoin because to me being a crypto enthusiast a privacy enthusiast and a tech person the idea of using bitcoin to make an illicit purchase is reckless in the extreme. Now maybe in two thousand fourteen. I wouldn't have seen it that way. But this isn't two thousand fourteen who sounds like a public service announcement yeah One one should not be using bitcoin for illicit transactions. And what's not simply. Send Bitcoin not our web market. Not for it would be more like marching to the IRS. I F Sarin with an. Id Your Hand for him to see Lord of the rings rest reference. Yeah well so says yeah. Both of them were okay but yeah. The whole thing is is bizarre and reckless. No matter how many mixer is you send it through its traceable and it will always be traceable. Logistics is a matter of some company like China says with contracts with the FBI to trace it back to you with any luck by the time all that technology catches up. This thing will just dissolve and hopefully no other things will spring up and we won't be a problem. Yeah but still the narrows easier and safer. Yeah it's supposed to be private by default so that means you don't have to do any sort of crazy wizardry to send your value from one person to another worry about somebody knocking on your door so today chain Alice's federal.

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