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"The Roy Halladay Story" Producers Brian Rivera and Mike Farrell on Halladay's Wife, His Anxiety and Pitchers Using Painkillers

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"The Roy Halladay Story" Producers Brian Rivera and Mike Farrell on Halladay's Wife, His Anxiety and Pitchers Using Painkillers

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Friday may twenty nine two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in Connecticut. Taylor Schwenk buster only Working for my own studio just north of New York City Tonight at seven PM. Espn will air e sixties. New Documentary on Roy. Halladay the hall of fame pitcher passed away in November of two thousand seventeen. And today we'll be talking with the CO directors of that piece about what they learned about Roy Halladay and why his widow Brandy holiday felt it was important to speak truthfully truthfully about Roy and my whole it does so start. A larger conversation about the drug. Use of pitchers is deal with the pain. Inherent in the work will also be taking todd rhythms weekly quiz. Be Talking about pirates home ballpark. Pnc before that today could be another big day in the negotiations between the players and Major League Baseball today. The players could forward a counter proposal to the owners. So although we saw Max Scherzer the other night that The stance could be no. We're not going to give anything back more than what we have on salaries. I've been told by sources that at least six owners want to shut down baseball for two thousand and twenty. We saw some more social media infighting on the players side on Thursday two days ago. Trevor Bauer send out a tweet saying that. Agent Scott Bores. Stay out of the negotiations yesterday. Kyle Osha client endorsed responded with this tweet trevor. I'm GonNa Chalk this went up to immaturity while your generation is talking. Mlb business while playing video games and complaining publicly. How the Union is doing us us out of touch ex ball. Players aren't happy standing by watching. You requisite was. Built Dower responded. Okay boomer anyone onto right kyle. Your time is a player has come and gone. You'RE NO LONGER. Part of the player group negotiating. Everyone appreciates your time and your service. But you don't speak on behalf of players anymore that time has come and gone for you. You're not privy to everything that's going on that inherently means. You're out of touch. It's not an insult and then low suggested the powers Gripe with. Boris might be. Because he's dating his agents. Rachel Luebbe bowery answered by calling low sexist and on and on it went here was something. Nice in the midst of all that Francis Romero. I hope I pronounced his first name right. Reports David Price will pay a thousand dollars each minor leaguer in the dodgers farm system. Not The guys in the forty man roster for the month of June If you know David prices history And his charitable giving by. It's not a surprise. It's something that he does in just a moment. We're going to talk with Brian. Rivera and Mike Farrell the CO directors about the special edition of Sixty about Roy Halladay. It's airing tonight at seven PM. Here's a trailer that he sixty produce about the Roy. Halladay piece everybody on their nowadays. Got One soon as it spins buyers began. What comes to mind when I say? The word Irvine unrealistic expectation. I don't think there's such a thing as perfect. There's few pitchers that you can think about that. You have this supreme respect four. He was the enemy of what a perfect pitcher should look like the greatest pitchers of his time absolutely stoic Warrior in the game. Nobody WANTS TO FACE Roy. The work ethic was the best. I've ever seen a man who is expected to be perfect. We're seen as perfect. I saw though was. Did you think he was an addict? Yes Roy Circuit. Victory was torment. His body was dependent on these medications to function. Adt Depression anxiety paranoia. Where I had a lot of demons. He was trying to work on all at the same time. What do you think he got free? No one of my last text were be careful line when why just now class up here and a play called day. People are not perfect. We all struggle hardware humility dedication. Imperfect people can still have perfect moment. Perfect hate that word. `perfect Mike Farrell Brian Rivera are co directors of the e sixty documentary imperfect about the late hall of Fame Pitcher. Roy halladay which airs tonight on. Espn at seven PM Eastern. Mike thanks for joining us. How you doing? I'm doing well this morning. Thank you Ryan. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you having us. Buster is an excellent piece. It was a bracing pizza. I watched it yesterday and I I knew a lot of a lot about Roy Halladay but boy did I learned so much more especially about his career his life a time after baseball Mike just to start with. Why do you feel like brandy? Halladay chose to participate in this space. I think that her motivation to put it very simply to try to use. Roy's story to help others. We were very very sensitive to the fact that Roy is gone. We don't want to be dragging up bad memories or dirt or you know to be speaking ill of him. After he's gone it's vulnerability from Brandy with a purpose. She really wanted to make sure that. By showing the human side of Roy showing the fact that he struggled can show anyone out there that anyone can struggle even somebody that is as invincible seeming as Roy Halladay was and so really. The point is to destroy go viewers that it doesn't matter if you're you're making twenty million dollars a year and and pitching perfect games and no hitters in the playoffs or if you're just a regular person like Brian and I everyone can struggle with mental illness and addiction. And there's no shame there should be no shame in that struggle Brad. It really felt like in watching this piece. Almost an extension for her of the Hall of fame speech. She gave in Cooperstown last year. Yeah it was buster you know. That speech is something that Mike and I were kind of waiting for after we initially talked about this idea I started this conversation with Mike. You know a few weeks before the hall of fame induction happened and he and I kicked around some ideas about pursuing a story about Roy but we were really kind of stuck on this one question that we just couldn't quite answer for ourselves and this of course was was before. Brandy spoke at the hall of fame. Which was why would brandy Halladay and the rest of the holiday family where you want to do something like this with us And then we saw Randy speech at Roy's induction at Cooperstown and Mike Really sees the pond brandies line which we have in the trailer and as you know in the documentary about Roy would want people to know that even imperfect people are capable of perfect moments and that that line you know hit Mike particularly hard and he brought it to me and we started talking about it and from there we decided we felt like we had possibly a reason that Burundi had kind of the door into their lives. Open just wide enough. That there might be incentive for her to sit down and And just share her story and Roy Story With everyone else with baseball fans and with the sports community at large and and even people you know two point earlier who are not in the sports world you know have battled some of these things that Roy went through and their family went through with him. Mike sports illustrated published a piece last summer. Which suggested but didn't say definitively raise the possibility that he committed suicide and I in watching that hall of fame speech fell like brandy was answering that directly in it. Felt like that in your piece without knowing the absolute truth. Yeah it's a very sensitive subject matter certainly brandy in our interview. We did ask her about that. We didn't include included in the documentary. But we did ask her specifically that idea and she was very vehement very passionate in her. Denial that he did not commit suicide. We spoke to eye witnesses from the crash. John Bara reporters spoke with an eyewitness. Who said there was no doubt that he was trying to pull up at the end? And so you know with a situation like this. You're just never going to know for sure but from what brandy tells us. Roy was getting into a better place in his life in those final months and was was realizing that being normal is was. He was coaching his son's in baseball and was was sort of getting to a better spot with retirement. And so from from everyone. We talked to you from eye. Witnesses to Royce family. They all feel very strongly that was not the case. Of course we can never know for sure. But that's that's what they communicated to us in our conversations if I get to just add onto that and just reiterate the point that might just made you know we interviewed you know. Almost I want to stay close to fifteen people and we brought this up to some of Roy's closest friends outside of his family. We brought it up to each member of his family and everyone was unified in their totally that this was a tragic accident. And that Roy would not have done something like that Especially given the fact that he had kind of moot begin he had he had started to move beyond I think being kind of bogged down on a daily basis by a lot of these issues. He and he and Brandy were counseling together. Kind of for their marriage. He had been actively seeking treatment for his addiction and according to brandy he he kind of begun to turn a corner Right before this accident occurred so everyone we spoke to was you know kind of vehement in their Stance that that Roy you know was not the person or was not in a place where he would have you know intentionally harmed himself guys say in watching the piece the the the footage that you Used at the outset absolutely took my breath away as best you can you. Can you describe what it was? And how how you got that. That footage came from a cinematographer. Who had done some work with icon aircraft Leading up to Royce purchase of the a five. And you know the time Roy had become one of the kind of early spokespeople for the a five aircraft that icon had put out and you know I icon had decided to film a lot of Roy's kind of early experiences with the plane whether it was going through played safety training the plane kind of for the first time and subsequent training sessions that he had in addition to being there when Roy Saul his plane which was manufactured specifically for him for the very first time. And so this this footage came to our attention in kind of a roundabout way Kind of a serendipitous way. I was actually shooting another feature for sixty in in late June of two thousand and nineteen and I happened to be shooting with the same crew They'll crew that had shot that footage of Roy and after we wrapped the shoot. This was all unknown to me at the time when we began to shoot and when I hired this particular group and when we wrap our shoot back day for a story that was entirely unrelated to Roy The crew and myself went to lunch and began talking and somehow and I this. Is You know a key keyboard of the story. Although I can't remember somehow Roy Halladay came up and these shooters told me. They had been the ones who had spent time with Roy at icon and had actually flown with him and shot him flying the plane For several months and that this footage was something that they had had and that they had owned. And obviously icon. You know in the wake of the crash There was of course everybody can understand a greater sensitivity about putting that footage out in any kind of promotional use so it was shelf and it sat on their shelf for From October of two thousand. Seventeen until you know late summer when we began a conversation about trying to acquire it from them so you know it was a long process to get it from them. They had a lot of concerns about the way we were going to use it as you can imagine. Buster it It was something that we did not acquire officially Until very recently Given all of the concerns surrounding but We Are you know thrilled to have it as a part of this project. We feel it makes the project. A more complete picture approve. Roy was given his interest in aviation. And you know. We're hoping that everyone else who saw who the documentary tonight. Everyone else who watches the documentary tonight? We'll have the same reaction that you did and alternate to Mike. If he wants to add anything while I was just going to jump in real quick and say that I I gotTa Tell. You just having known Roy know a little bit and got an just as reporter to a player kind of broke my heart watching it And why it was so striking. Mike. What do you remember about the first time that you saw? It took my breath away very similar in fashion to to you buster. It's it's very jarring to to watch it with the benefit of hindsight and knowing what happened It's it's chilling. I mean when I watched it down for the very first time when we got some screener copies of the footage to review the the moment that made the hair on the back of my next ended up was when Roy sat in the plane for the first time was smiling like a kid in a candy store and of all the words in the English language to utter he said perfect and at that point I it was just like my spine tingle than it was It was crazy. But that's how he felt about the plane. He was so excited to get it and you could see that. He's just in awe in that scene of of the aircraft and aviation has Brian said was something he was passionate about in loved his entire life. So it's equal parts eerie shocking heartbreaking. It's all of those things but it does show you know his his love for flying in real time on curious about what each of you learned about him. That surprised us. You went through the project. Mike Start with you for me. It was it was brandy talking about Roy. Anxiety and Roy's fear of failure Roy's incessant desire to please others and to not let people down. She spoke about that over and over again in our interview. And I mean that just that description just seems so at odds with the image of him that we have on the mound which is disliked stone cold dominant pitcher that showed such little emotion noted for his stoicism almost as much as his work ethic. And you know to hear that that's what he was really like behind closed doors was very surprising to me. But you know there's a lot of people whether it'd be Major League pitchers or just in everyday life that that put on a form of a mask on a daily basis and project one personality when another one might you know live beneath the surface and that again just speaks to. Our hope is with this does documentary. Is that if somebody may be watching this and and can help shed the shame and the feeling the need to project strength when maybe you know. Anxiety is is below then. I think that the film serves its purpose But that was the most surprising thing to me was hearing just how how scared and anxious. He was at times throughout his career throughout his life and various situations whether it be pitching in front of forty five thousand people or going to a small cocktail party. You Know Ryan you know we. We really got to find out how much of a sense of humor Roy. Halladay had and I don't think that that's something that that anybody would have ever thought about or even really known about unless you really really really paid attention Particularly to twitter feed after he passed away Which is still up and You know again. I'm not sure how many people actually spent time poking through his twitter feed while he was alive but in going back through it now You know I would encourage anybody who you know is a fan of Roy Halladay or ended Washington stock to to just poke through Because the guy really was funny And you know one one particular thing that stands out is an you can find this on Youtube He Roy was inducted into the Colorado Sports Hall of fame in two thousand fifteen and he gave an induction speech that again. I think surprised a lot of people because it was actually funny. And it's on you to we feature it at the end of the documentary. Buster as you know having watched and You know Roy till the few kind of stories and take some shots at himself you know very self deprecating very humble But also funny and his family talk about that Brandy talked about that and it's evident If you're paying close attention to the these kind of little areas in his life where you can get a little glimpse into it. I mentioned the the hall of Fame Induction Speech being one but also you know his twitter feed and even in some of the some of the interviews that he did. I think people kind of missed that part of him along the way so that was something that struck me and I hope that that's something that people get a little taste of. Maybe at the end of the documentary. It's funny that the sense of humor really came out when you're looking at the raw interview clips and it's it's those moments in between filming or before. The interview begins where you really saw. Roy's sense of humor shine. I mean I think he had you felt maybe a sense of obligation to kind of turn on the the baseball player persona when the cameras were rolling but when we look at the interview tapes and even the brief glimpses of moments before enduring takes is when that sense of humor. Release Sean through. Which was interesting for me to see a hundred percent. I worked on a number of sixty pieces and there is alternate heartbreak process because of stuff to borrow your phrase brand that winds up on the cutting room floor For each. GimMe something that you're like. Oh I wish we could have included that for me. I I mentioned this to you as we came on. I actually woke up this morning very early. I've woken up every morning during the editing process of this piece just unable to sleep thinking about things and I was. GonNa text this the Mike and I didn't but Here now I really miss An opening to our second segment documentary which Mike Bill With an interview clip that you did from two thousand and three with Roy after he had kind of come back after being sent down to the minors and in that interview clip. There are a number of technical issues. Befalling the production lights are going out. Cell phones are going off and it happens throughout the course of the entire fifteen minute interview and Roy graciously but also with a sense of humor. Which again is evident kind of inbetween? The moments and the answers is very playful and very understanding and I think that scene that might build up him which was going to be a part of our second segment of his documentary really illustrated that point earlier in the story than than we might get to it now but It's something that I I do miss and I wish we had more time. We we certainly would have gotten it in for me. Is the story line with his son. Brayden we actually had a very talented associate producer on our show. Scott Secorski put together a separate feature on bread and I went to Penn State University couple months ago and spend a few days with Brayden there. He's a freshman pitcher at Penn state and just such a likable nice down to Earth Kid. He just looks like Roy in so many ways not only physically but in his mechanics delivery. There's sort of a kind of warm but eerie nature to the images that we captured him pitching and I think a of ways in talking to breed. And you know he's he's taken lessons from from Roy from both his successes and his struggles and tried to incorporate those into his own journey as he pursues pitching as potentially a career for himself and I find that choice interesting in its own right as he saw firsthand the mental and physical strain that it put on his father so we were able to get a separate feature done on brandon with the stuff that we captured at Penn state to give him time to kind of show his relationship with his father. A little bit more so that is going to get out there in some capacity but it would have been fulfilling to have that weaved into our narrative a little bit more in the documentary presentation. Brian when I said now with you I mentioned to you as you were giving me some of the background that you guys had dug out on this that when I first saw the Toxicology report after the crash. I was kind of like that doesn't surprise me because in my time covering baseball. I've seen a Lotta pitchers and heard a lot about pitchers going into retirement with pill problems with pharmaceutical problems. Because of all the pain management that they do during their careers especially the end of their careers because they pitch and pain and you guys note that Roy's physical problems really started with a back issue and then it expanded and then he began to use pharmaceuticals on a regular basis. And I. I wouldn't at all be surprised brandy made reference to the idea of you know. Hopefully this help someone. I think there will be former pitchers. You're going to hear about former pitchers their struggles with painkillers. After watching this and in fact when I was doing the broadcast on Are from the Games from South Korea this morning cow Peterson. Our our colleague unity. Spn when I mentioned that he said. Yeah in two thousand and one You know I started taking Iden And so I really feel like that you're going to have A. You're going to reach a lot of people in the game with By Sharing Roy's experience and his issues with those. I hope you're right buster. I think if that if that was the outcome of this documentary it would far exceed even our our hopes For what we were kind of intending for it to achieve That's a that's another conversation that we never had going into the production of this documentary. But it's it's one that develops particularly when you and I started talking and I think it's it's a a really interesting one to have you know brandy talks about Roy not taking prescription painkillers to get high but taking them because he needed them to function to do his job as a pitcher. And Todd's lucky who has written a book On Roy Halladay has written. Halliday's biography is in our piece featured in our piece we did an interview with him and he talks about the pressure that Roy felt as the phillies twenty million dollars a year. Ace to live up to and deliver you know a third live up to the expectations of the fans apprehend that the organization may have had for him and deliver the fans. You know a third consecutive trip to the world series and so because of the physicality that I think a lot of fans the physicality of pitching that. I think a lot of fans take for granted because as we've talked about you know it's it's a non contact sport and we take you know the movement of one's arm for granted because it's kind of something we all can. Do you know. Mike has catch with his son. You have a catch with yours. We've all had catches and throw a baseball with our friends with our dads and it's just something you take for granted But you know if you think about it once you come in from the catch you know thirty minutes later. Your arm is sore. And you've maybe been throwing a ball twenty or thirty miles an hour. One hundred miles an hour For to get twenty seven. Major League outs so I think you know if if that conversation started out of this it would it would wildly exceed our hopes for you know what we can achieve By getting this message out there and shining light on on this issue kind of inadvertently in my time covering baseball like the mantra. For starting pitchers you take the ball. He jury responsibility. Take the ball. Every fifth day when I was covering the Yankees there was a period of time on any petted has had discomfort in his elbow and I remember talking. Roger Clements where you tend. You know Andy's got to learn how to pitch with pain. That's part of the game. That's part of what we do and I think that For some of them the use of pharmaceuticals as part of that might. Yeah and I remember you saying in the interview buster that you had a doctor at one time. Tell you that every time. A major league pitcher throws a PICCI's effectively dislocating his shoulder every single time. And when you think about it in that context I mean it it seems had there will be an inevitability that pain would be a constant in the the lives of pitchers especially as they get later in their careers and yeah. I just think that it's sports. Fans like we're wired to think of painkillers and playing through pain for like sports. More like football or me growing up in Canada certainly is associated with hockey. These sort of contact sports that are more violent nature that collisions are part of the everyday ongoing of the sport. But when you when you actually stop and think about what. A person is doing to their body while pitching. It makes total sense that that painkillers would also be an issue in that fraternity. Great job. This guys. Thanks for taking the time to talk about it shortly. Thing Buster having on thanks very much rate him is a TV executive or weekly cuisine. Doors working seated on ballfields all across America all around the world his website titled Dot Com. Todd as we bring you in last night he had even more out in the open about the negotiations going on between the players and the owners accept. This was player on player. Crime twitter back and forth between Kyle Loesch and Trevor Bauer. I I did Michael K show yesterday and I told him that I I was embarrassed. Watching this like watching. This is beginning to feel like to second cousins at a memorial service arguing loudly in the back pews and Rindge as you hear it like every time somebody talks about money allowed in the current context. It feels totally inappropriate. And I think it's going to damage all of them. Buster you're saying these words and I am literally just stately sitting here shaking my head and I got my head in my hand cringing. Because you're absolutely right I'm GONNA come at it from a little bit. Different perspective You know I've worked in baseball in my lane a little bit of a different thing admittedly but on the business side for thirty years and I have relationships with people in the Commissioner's office would people with the PA with licenses. And I think that all of this is governed. Navigating successfully is is a product. I believe of discretion. Bite your tongue. No one to talk no when not to talk. Hold things incompetence and for goodness sake just before you should apply to everything as it relates to social media. Think twice hit send once I mean. It is just horrible to watch this play out. Yeah and I. When I saw the in particular those tweets be Carl Cut Carlos by the way. He's a great guy. I don't Know Trevor. Bowers well as you know Carlos but I know Carlos you good guy but when I saw the tweets back and forth like good God can just get his phone number and call them directly taught. Yeah it's probably pretty easy to do and listen. Trevor Bauer has tation for as a guy who was a bit of a free spirit and that is a a refreshing thing and good on him. You know But at this particular moment time as a world as a country is a society and knowing that the window of opportunity weather this season was going to get played truncated former not again. I don't want to debate the merits of that. I don't want to get into money. Millionaires billionaires this whole discussion always comes into play but just bite your tongue. Don't hit send and I will get off my soapbox Before you get off it I do WanNa hear about your views on. Pnc Park which is one of my favorites You know I because Camden yards close to my heart. That's always number one for me. I love the Ballpark in San Francisco. Pittsburgh would be number three remained. What about for you? Well we get onto a much nicer thing to talk about. Were no question buster. I believe that it's quite possibly baseball's most beautiful ballpark is that possible yes is ending a PNC park and the first thing you do if you were to let be lead into PNC park of your eyes closed and said okay. Open your eyes. You see this what I always turned a business view of downtown. Pittsburgh and those bridges and the angles of the buildings. Your architecture is just startlingly interesting. And they're things that I've gone down that I love about the NC Park. I love the scale of it is to debts. It is modest. There's always seem like a ballpark. That fits the size of its bird which is not a huge metropolis. It just seems right As far as the ballpark itself I love the materials there. That's local limestone exterior and area behind home plate. I love the colors the blues steal. It just seems really really comparable there. It's built on a very modest footprint setting the views the texters colors of the stadium. All of it. You know let's face it you and I've talked about this many times in the path offer. We are old enough to remember when the pirates were uninjured powerhouse participating in World Series Winning Divisions Etcetera Etcetera. Etcetera always said that that Ballpark as well received as it is would get more of a halo effect if the pirates were good at all and they haven't been you know with rare exception for a long time. I love the tribute. That's built into the Ballpark to Roberto. Clementi right field. If you can explain that is you're the expert. I haven't been there in a while but I know you know you've got the clemente stats. You've got the bridge out there. You've the wall is twenty one feet high. Yeah Yeah there you go and and I mean you know you talk about Clemente of course played his career at Forbes field which is not anywhere near there but three rivers right near there the bridge the Clemente Bridge approaching. Pnc Park as a pedestrian from downtown Pittsburgh across the river on the Clemente Bridge. You get a sense of the history and the pirates do the history so so well and I know that's ebbed and flowed over the years they You had had celebrated the Negro Leagues Rich history I will give a quick shot out This point to To Shawn Gibson who I know who is the descendant of Josh Gibson runs the Josh Gibson Foundation out there so much so much history and what an amazing like you. I would put it right up there at the top my list. We're GONNA be talking about this lot. I don't know how you compare. Pnc Park to a fenway or Wrigley to name two of the older ones. We talked about Dodger Stadium You know again different flavors. We're talking the same language. Pnc's a Jim. It really is on the other hand. Three rivers absolutely nothing stands out about it to me. My went there other than I I mentioned to you last week. About jogging and different ballparks. That was one of the Ballpark's jogging after games and it was perfectly audible and nice and easy to run in. That's for sure. You Buster you talking about. Close Your eyes and be put into three Rivers Stadium and say am I in Cincinnati and I still Adelphia right call. Letters of the colors of the seeds might vary but other than that not a whole lot to think about. I am all of a sudden calling being at Atta game at three rivers in April of Nineteen eighty-seven. I can tell you exactly when it was. It was empty and somebody had say a fly ball. I'm sitting with my friends in the upper deck. Roughly behind home plate first row and this ball comes and these two US guys get right in our grill and take the foul ball away from us. I mean that's my now so my memory of three Rivers Stadium. Buster not good. I'd say in the ballpark before the you made reference to at Forbes field in in a weird sort of way the Ford field is like the mayflower of all the modern ballparks because of course Forbes field was the favourite of Larry Lucchino went to work for the Baltimore Orioles and he was inspired by Ford Field. They built camden yards and as we talked about a few weeks ago with January Smith. That was the inspiration for For ballparks elsewhere when he got him Forbes Field Yeah I mean obviously it predates us by by enough years that the you and I never would have been there. You look at pictures of this place and it was just exquisitely dishonest. The architectural details are stunning the setting in the Oakland neighborhood and buster. I cannot help but think I think both you and Taylor notes not talking about. There's this iconic shot of the game of the seventh game of the nineteen sixty world series taken from top that cathedral of learning that big skyscraper that that tower they're looking down on Forbes field and it is just striking this moment in time all of the get past the history part the setting all of the trees just looks like a beautiful beautiful ballpark. I know that there are pieces of it. That are still in existence there Including a section of the outfield wall where Bill Mazeroski is home run cleared to win the nineteen sixty world series? I'm pretty sure played us there to someday when we're allowed to leave the house. We gotta do a Ballpark a road trip. Oh that would be fun tod. Yeah I absolu- and I actually you know as you said that. I'm like two or three places in the area other historical sites that I wanna see so you and I are going to talk about that that we have established at three rivers. Definitely the ugly stepchild of the three ballparks. The pirates of made famous all right. Let's get to this week's quiz all right guys here. We go wouldn't stay in the National League which one of these teams has appeared in the most National League Championship series the pirates the dodgers the braids or the cardinals most appearances in the NFL CS. Parral others braves cardinals. While tell you want to give it a shot I will go with the cardinals on this one and the cardinals have certainly made the world series appearances. But I'M GONNA go with a team that tortured me at times going the National League Championship series. And that would be my childhood favorite team. The dodgers Taylor. You are victor this week. I'm appearances job Taylor and buster. You were closed because the dodgers have appeared in thirteen lot in recent times. So Taylor good job my friend. Wow Yeah I thought it was some sort of baseball savant but I guess not. I guess I'm the PODCAST. It's kind of interesting because you know I alluded to it earlier and and it had nothing to do with the With the correctness of this question but the pirates of appeared in nine and LCS. When you think about you know let's face it. We all know that the event You know the NRCS dates back to nineteen sixty nine and the pirates. Of course were this powerhouse franchise And then all of a sudden you know the the wall at a certain point that they appeared in they have appeared in nine and it will see us along the way and I remember Jack Block that I've joyfully talking about. Is You whatever. I'm not going to get into it as a dodger. Very bitter and a very bitter for losing again all right. Todd I appreciate it right guys. Thanks so much. The businesses around ballparks. All around America have gone dormant during this time without baseball like Wrigley. Ville dogs is peace was generated by sportscenter. The tables are the we are open for business. 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So he writes in. It feels like fans. Are The only child stuck in the middle of a Nazi divorce where neither parent players. Our owners want us. What do fans due to voice? How we feel Boycott Games and twenty twenty one. Do we all become. Nba Fans Premier League. Lacrosse sounds like it's GonNa go off without a hitch the summer. What do you think Buster Jacob what you just suggested is voiced by players by agents by people a management side? They cringe that there is going to be a serious backlash from fans. Much in the way was act much in the way there was after the ninety four ninety five players strike a little bit of follow up to that Ben Hedge Hegi Hamanaka. I'm on a roll here today at big head. Benny Thirteen rates in. Mlb Media and fan say they want players to be more open and have less robotic answers. Why does it seem when players do open up and speak? Their feelings sees appointing to Blake. Snell specifically they get crucified. By those vary media members. No wonder no one talks and I think it's with this with Blake. Snell situation this and then a travels and oranges. Yeah yeah apples and oranges wanting to give an interview after the game or talking to microphone during the game and on the other hand the current situation during a pandemic to talk about money absolutely last one from our pal Aaron at a San Diego rates in what are the disagreements happening in terms of safety all we hear. All you're hearing is that they disagree but it seems to me like this is only an attempt to cover for money disputes. If there are any specifics I'd love to hear them. Aaron generally speaking what I've heard is the players want more testing but let's face it The there are disagreements and they might even be major disagreements over safety. The bigger disagreements are over money. There's not going to be baseball in two thousand twenty if they cannot settle those financial disagreements. Yeesh all right well. Premier Leagues Back June seventeenth. 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I Thought He Was a Yankees Fan?

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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I Thought He Was a Yankees Fan?

"Is baseball tonight. The podcast baseball tonight. Podcast for wednesday march seventeenth. Two thousand and twenty one st patrick's day taylor taylor swink. Who produces podcast from his home studio in the foothills of connecticut. I'm buster only working for my own studio and new york on saint patrick's anything special. No not really i maybe. In my younger years. I would have hit a pub for some green beer but i i am like thoroughly a euro mutt. So i don't have any strong irish ties. Like i know a lot of people do what about you i do. I think something like seventy five percent irish. I don't know my question is this. It's like one of those philosophical questions if you have terrible red green color blindness your irish. How do you handle saint patrick's day. Wow i have you ever been ireland. I feel like you would be driving around the seed fields fields of gray. Is that what you said of. That's not what i see. I would definitely see especially in spring you you see. I can see really bright colors. I can see a bright green. But i do really bad. Red green color blindness john. So yeah but we've got a lot of questions one of the one. We're going to try to answer. Today is who won the bet. Between taylor and i over whether or not. Tim had knowledge of the royals. And we're going to be asking tim about that during today's podcast News and notes from yesterday. Lebron james has become a part owner of the boston. Red sox's first reported by the boston globe in confirmed by. Espn james business partner. Maverick carter are now partners at fenway. Sports group sources confirmed. Espn with stake. they become partial owners of other. Fsg subsidiaries including liverpool football club. Rosh fenway racing and nessun The detroit tigers. Miguel cabrera doesn't believe that the astros two thousand seventeen title is tainted and he supports the hiring and managing hinch He said. espn that's bs. I don't care about that. The baltimore orioles finalized a one year. Eight hundred thousand dollar deal with michael bronco toronto blue jays right hander date pearson aggravated a strained right groin. That's kind of a big deal. He's an important part of what they're going to be trying to do this year. Pete alonso had a nice moment among many nice moments this spring in the mets exhibition on tuesday hammers went toward the left field. Corner that fall deep and it's gone run for lonzo. He continues to rush the baseball. This devil homered. Today is the best now lead. Four one jacob degrom in that game had his fastball velocity up to one hundred and two miles per hour. We're gonna be talking later in the podcast with paul in bikinis about mr graham. Shohei ohtani. we've been talking him. Open the podcast. And every day seems to do something to justify that to center field A shot again over the batteries. I nine to joe syrup trevor. Bauer was out on the mound for the dodgers. And you look great. 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Because i definitely have some thoughts my gut reaction was i thought he was a yankees fan and i remember dodgers cap during the playoffs last year. So he's gonna figure out his allegiances here if he's going to be a part owner of the red sox. Yeah we've seen all types of all sides lebron when it comes to be a baseball fan i remember covering the the the indians playing the red sox in two thousand sixteen and there was a question whether or not some of the The the cavs would come over and watch the indians play. And during the course of one game lebron some of the other guys made it over and it was a huge. Got a huge response In the ballpark and then as the indians went through that postseason advancing all the way to game. Seven of the world series. Lebron james would make appearances and then that conversation you just citing came over wait. I thought it was a yankee fan. But no i know a baseball team in cleveland. That could maybe use a new owner. Who might be willing to spend a little money so you can learn. The you know how baseball operates part owner of the red sox and then when he retires from the nba. By the cleveland baseball team. Lebron spend some money you know. I never that. That never even popped into my mind yesterday when i saw that. You're right he he gets into the club right. Lobbies approved as a part owner of the red sox. And then he shifts. We've seen i mean john. Henry did that. Memory was the owner of the marlins and he wound up essentially flipping that Ownership are part of that. Ownership over to owning the red sox. Once again the club that he can move. Lebron be great. But i i would say this. I mean we've seen lebron is nba career. He's pretty pliable right. As as a need spit he'll go from the cabs to the heat. The cavs the lakers as as his life demands. And i suspect he's probably that way with his baseball allegiances and i also wonder given his competitive instincts if he would enjoy being the owner of the cleveland. Baseball franchise limitations That they have. Because i don't see him being like a mike illitch type on or he's willing to spend money out of hand Out of his own pocket in order to give them a chance to win. What do you think like owners. He would prefer it to be profitable enterprise but like you know. We're kind of laughing at this but you know it's a good little thing for baseball. Bring some attention to the sport Lebron has said he wants to long-term on an nba team nba. Rules prohibit. Him from buying. While is an active player so realistically that's more likely than him taking full share of a baseball team. But i'm pretty sure he has the money to buy whatever franchisee would like down the road. Yeah no doubt about it. And i am absolutely excited by the possibility of him. Potentially you know becoming a presence in baseball. I'll tell you why because it really does feel like right. Now that the two sides the owners and the players are as entrenched they've ever been on both sides and we've seen lebron james come out and support players and baseball players in social media over. You know issues that they're having with major league baseball. And i like besides back. Baseball clearly needs more minority owners in african americans latinos etc And i think that for starters that's really important for baseball but i also think it's important for baseball that you potentially have somebody who's like a new He's like a new sheriff in town. He's an honest broker. He's coming into this and if he actually gets involved in this maybe he can shake things up. You know maybe he could change the equation a little bit. Yeah that's a great point and look there's no doubt the braun has whatever you wanna call it. The it factor the cool factor that maybe younger people paying a little more attention to baseball at all different generation. But it certainly doesn't hurt when magic. Johnson you know is out there tweeting about the dodgers. Right bring some attention to the sport and that's a good thing in the big picture. Yep no doubt about it so you know as time goes on. We'll see how much control he gained You and i talked beforehand. We don't know what percentage seika as in the red sox could be zero point one percent you know maybe eventually becomes a little bit more. There have been questions in baseball about whether or not you know. In the next ten years the red sox are going to be sold and whether or not the scene or somebody like that might might get involved. Yeah in one last. Baseball teams are becoming so expensive to by having these single kind of ownership groups are going to be more and more difficult in the future. So you're going to have to have groups of people right by in baseball teams. The all idea of one guy owning a team when they're worth you know the red sox i don't know what they're worth a couple billion dollars at least straight you know. There's only so many people with that kind of money. Who are interested in buying a baseball team stories already. Yesterday said that the the red sox are considered by forbes to be the third most valuable baseball franchise one being the yankees to being the dodgers and three being the red sox so lebron's definitely starting near the top in his In his baseball ownership speaking to the dodgers cody bellinger. This spring has debuted a new stance. He of course had right shoulder surgery after separating shoulder again During the postseason last year when he was celebrating with a teammate banging shoulders against somebody else and so he had surgery and he came out yesterday in his batting stance and is very different. It was more open. It's upright just in keeping with What i think cody bellinger hitter. He so unbelievably talented as an athlete. But it really does feel like hitting will always be something that will be a challenge for him. He's tinkered you know in the past with this dance. His career he's been inconsistent greatest rookie matt so great in two thousand eighteen. Mvp winner in two thousand nineteen struggled for him quite a bit last year. So this is another way just to try to develop some consistency and get back to that. Two thousand seventeen in two thousand nineteen level of play and like you said he. He such an unbelievable athlete that even though he's tinker and you don't normally recommend that it could work for him. Yeah i think of someone. Like buster posey. You know the stories that always hear from handling mula nhs When henze millions was the giants hitting coach about buster posey he was had such an understanding of his swing and stance and was all very simple if he had a breaking ball. He would pull it. If you've got a fastball hit the opposite field and his batting practice sessions according to hensley were essentially he just would swing until it felt okay and sometimes that would be like ten to fifteen points and they'd be like up i got it. Where's cody bellinger. Reminds me a lot of a player. Cover back in the ninety. S cal ripken and that it's you know. Cal ripken wound up with over three thousand hits in his career. He is a hall of famer when hitting was not easy for him. And you look good. Cody as you said tinkering all the time. Yeah and i know you grew up. I'm sure watching carl yastrzemski. He was famous for a change in his stance every year again. There's not very many great players who are doing that but We've just named a couple so it can work for him. Yeah do you think. Ken griffey junior tinkered with his stance that the same stances. He was three years old until his final day. In the majors. Yup exactly this was interesting. Dayton more general manager of the kansas city. Royals was talking with our old friend. Jim bowdoin and said to him that the royals are being open minded about whether bobby witt junior could break camp with the big league team. This conversation on tuesday Bobby junior has really opened is with his long home. Runs this spring. He's number seven overall prospect On some list in some lists a little bit higher some ballistic little bit lower. So when i saw this my first thought was when dayton moore says something like this you can take it at face value. Because he hasn't worried about service time manipulation. You know he started. Eric hosmer mike moustakas in their rookie seasons. You know giving them an opportunity to play and on the other hand i also went back and you look first off when i looked at Bobby juniors spring training numbers. They kind of made me winced a little bit because the perception is being put out. There is that Junior dominating spring training nine thirty one to walks nine strikeouts that to me is not dominating. Spring training the walks and strikeouts. Roy's the first numbers that i look at. And i thought now he's obviously got a lot of swing and miss where young player and david. He's never played above. Rookie ball. Yeah that would be an in modern baseball. Unprecedented basically for a guy like that to to jump to the majors among the current crop. One pseudo is the exception. He only played one hundred and twenty two minor league games only eight above class. But you just mentioned that. Walk to strikeout ratio. He's nowhere near the disciplined and mature hitter. That wants soto. Is you know going back a few college guys like john. Olerud and pete. Incaviglia bob horner. Who jumped straight to the majors. The last i found who went from rookie ball to the majors with robin yount nineteen seventy-four drafted at seventeen played that his first season a pro bowl at rookie ball and the next year age eighteen was the opening day shortstop for the brewers and he turned out pretty well. But like you said dayton moore talking about it. he's not dismissing it. The royals darla have a second baseman hole there that he could take maybe they wanna just hasn't bats for a month before the minor league season starts and send them down but it's interesting idea. Yeah and they do have some flexibility in that position. They're waiting for someone to grab second base. Yeah by the throat and so maybe someone will do that. I will say this. It's funny as you made that reference to robin yount I do weekly radio appearance in kansas city on every thursday morning and the to stephen saint john navy. Katie were talking last week about their conversations with mike boorda occur the longtime pitcher of the baltimore. Orioles and george brett's the hall of famer and both of those guys mentioned to them. Well you know who bobby witt. Junior reminds us a lot of robin yount. So so it's funny. It's exactly that type of player. Who's gonna make a jump like this. I still think that while dayton is going to be open minded my guess is is that he's gonna wanna leave the give Bobby wood junior summit bats in the minor leagues. What about jared catholic. What do you think How do you think the mariners gonna handle lamp. Yeah that'll be fascinating you know. He's been injured. I think he might return today. He's really roaring. Get back in the lineup. He only has twenty one games above classy. Throw out manipulating the service time. Is he ready for the major leagues. you know. He didn't play last year. Sorry the summer camp you know. That's not a substitute for real game. Action only one hundred seventy three minor league games ronald and at two hundred and fifty nine games in the minors one thirty four above class as so he basically had a fall season of action. Above class-a we're counting. Has twenty-one carlos correa played fifty three games above classy bryce harper fifty eight. You know these are the best cream of the crop. And when you compare cal minor league staff to those guys. They're not quite as good. You know there's not any indication that he's going to be the next. You know ronald kuni. As a hitter he might be the minor league stats aren't quite as impressive as although impressive. So i know baseball. Twitter wants him on the opening day roster. I think he needs time in the minors but again what's he doing in april if he's not in the major leagues right andrew. Bonna the white sox. Wander franko b tampa bay rays. Yeah two other guys who haven't played above class-a frankel you know. They already sent him down to the minor league camp. The other day you'll be. I'm sure at some point in the season. Same thing get him a couple of months double a or triple aaa andrew. Von i think he might make that roster. We've talked about him. I think because he has that played disciplined that so important. Very good. walk to strikeout ratio so far spring training. I think it's even his walk. Rate in college. Was off the charts. He'll plus he's an older player. I know it hasn't played a class. Say that would be shocked. If he's on the roster. Yeah this spring again. he's not. He's not absolutely spring training but six walks strikeouts which reflect some some play disciplined. And i've told fill the story in the podcast before. About how in talking with white sox people in the question of whether or not you'd wanna devote a young player to a lot of at bats designated hitter. The white sox are very comfortable with andrew von doing that because they feel like he's such a mature hitter and he's such a mature person said he someone who would adapt to a role like that. Yeah i think so. And again this statistical record says this guy's a pretty advanced hitter and everything you're saying you hear about. His demeanor is maturity. He's not going to get overwhelmed and he comes up. He struggles for a month. Okay sent him back down and aaa. I think he's good enough for that's not gonna happen but there's clearly an opening they don't have a d. h. I don't know who their other option would be at collins. Maybe you know so again. You know they're waiver imitate that role and run with it all right dave. Thanks for doing this at greatly. Appreciate it right. He buster jumping into the numbers. Hembo knows baseball. Tonight in hembo was balling bikinis a researcher. Espn and of course is a honcho on the show. Get up. he tells us. He's the head honcho. Mike greenberg strongly disagrees with that and just talks about how much how actually parties right embassy. You help me out a lot. When it comes to my sunday column in preparing for sunday night baseball get ready for the podcast and it reached out to you last week with an idea in trying to really reveal all of the great things the great aspects About what once. So too does the plate and i mentioned to you that i thought a great way to do that might be How many swings and misses you know his swings. The number swings e takes relative to the damage that he does so you know swings and misses versus total bases. I mean that stat. The crust quotient has gotten great reception from folks. Well great oh uh-huh reach out. And they said they absolutely love it a. It's really simple but it really seems to get to the heart of who's great and whose terrible at that's right. Move aside bill james buster. Olney is the new foremost statistician around baseball. We did this. We took total bases divided by the number of swings. And and we just multiply that by one hundred just so that the numbers are you know recognizable and not decimals. And because a total swings is the denominator stat penalizes players who swing and miss a lot and us rewards players. Who don't and that's something that no other outcome based that likeness can do and because total basis as the numerator the top the top of the division it penalizes players out power and rewards players. Who have it. So what essentially spits help us. There is a list of the players. The best blend battles skills with power which is really the holy grail in today's game. And you ask you to look up stuff over the last years. The top four in this metric or might trout. Mookie betts alex bregman and christian yelich. You know you have a good stat when those are the top four players on it. Yeah one of the guys who did well last year. In that statistic was will myers the siegel padres and he's down. Its throughout his career. And you and i were going back and forth an email about his Emergence on this particular statistic. And i felt like you know what i need to go back and take a closer look at will myers and maybe has turned the corner. As players tend to do some players they do during the course of their careers because to to show up high in a ranking of this particular statistic really demonstrates samak human Demonstrates that you have multiple things that required to be a great hitter which might might suggest that he's on his way to bigger and better things like sort of the sort of the traditional story of one of these posts type sleepers note. He has that. Allen is a top prospect for years and has flashed it perhaps it just demonstrates that he had a career year in a shortened season and he might regress but any time a player like him chose up on our leaderboard lake. This i'm with you. I want to ask myself more questions as to you. Know why he's there. And what. I might be missing right. Give me some Established players who fared really badly in this number. This is this is. This is a fascinating case. Study asked me to do so. I look back over the last three seasons against get a representative sample size. I'm a handful of names of guys at surprise me or at least stuck out. One of whom was james mackenzie ranked in the twenty third percentile of this statistic. He's fifty million dollars for the mets. And that's a player. Who's who's track record as being a great player is super small. So we'll see if he can live up to that deal but he's in half to hit the come close to justify it brandon belt buster ranked only in the thirty third percentile during that span. He's coming off a career year but they think to myself. Well maybe just maybe twenty twenty was a mirage. Miguel cabrera ranked only in the thirty six percent which might not now rising. Considering i guess in some sense he has shown a lot of regression but this is a number that indicates me as he's sort of chasing three thousand hits and five hundred home runs. We should pay a lot of attention to his quality of contact because it is clearly not been there the last three years and he was a player for whom years before this he would have ranked at the very top of the leaderboard. Two more names for you. Andrew benintendi ranked only in the thirty seventh percentile. I asked myself at the time. Why in the world with the red sox trade him what shall like fifty cents on the dollar. Well maybe they have other numbers like this. That suggests this is a player. Who's come close to hitting a ceiling. And lastly and perhaps most surprisingly bryce harper ranked in the fifty fifth percentile about average player. Who had more walks than strikeouts last year and obviously Surprised me to a great deal as as someone who watches most phillies games but over the previous seasons as you know a lot of swing and miss issues. So i'm very curious to see if price offer in twenty twenty. One is going to be more the player. He was last year or more the player he wasn't a previous two year. Which is a genuinely great hitter or just a pretty good. That probably can't quite live up to their contract that they signed him to. I gotta tell ya. I'll give you a theory on this y. Bryce harper shows. Up on this as i thought about this statistic. I thought the one hole in it is not a accounting for the hitter. Who's plan is to essentially gas once or twice during an at bat where he's going to say you know what i am gonna let it fly. 'cause i'm looking to do damage. We know how hard bryce harper swings and maybe he has a high number. Those where he on the first pitch. He's going to sit on a particular pitch in a particular area. And just let it go. So he's gonna have more swing and miss. That's totally fair. Totally fair because we don't discriminate based upon the count but we could easily do. Buster is divided total bases divide divided by swings on two strikes and we could in that in that way or early in account for example. Right little correct to see which hitters are totally willing to sell out. it might be a statistic. we can sort of Split even further to gain even more clarity. And i gotta tell you A mccann james mccann's inclusion on that what. I heard a lot of during the wintertime. it's people talk about with other teams About what the mets did this winter. They feel like that. If the mets could do it all over again they would absolutely should have gone in in the eyes of a lot of folks with other teams all in. Jt real utah rather than in other words. Overspend on an all-star the preeminent catcher in baseball rather than potentially overspend on james mccann. I actually understand why the mets did what they did. They wanted to address an important position. But a lot of the questions that i've heard from folks with other teams is why james mccann doesn't a lot a- the bat especially against right handed pitchers so it doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah that's right you can. I think you can get james pecan for seventy five percent less most years. If you can identify the player who might be sort of on up and up rather than sort of pay one hundred cents on the dollar for a player who does not have the track record like jt. Realmuto does right exactly all right. We're talking so much about march madness this week so we're going to go with the march madness theme or some categories. You sent these along to me. And i'm i'm fascinated by this The number one overall seed in baseball. And i will tell you right now. If you don't come up with the answer that everyone knows the gonzaga baseball you might. Thus everyone knows that. The gonzaga baseball is the dodgers. They're over on her. At caesar's william hill is one hundred and three and a half right now which is the highest preseason foetal by any team since the nineteen ninety nine yankees but they played on a one hundred and sixteen pace last year. Would you take the dodgers or the field in the national league. I know you'll take the over with that one. Three and a half. I would take the dodgers and i would take the okay fair enough right now. Gonzaga has something like a one in four chance to two to win the whole thing you taking the any any time. You're taking a team over all the other teams. They're a prohibitive favorite. But it sounds like you see him as such in the national league. Yeah yeah. They're showing that if they win the national league west which i think they will makes the road a little bit. More difficult for the padres to navigate through the second best team in baseball no rela cinderella team that i could reaching the world series that no one expects is the blue jays. I'll tell you why they're one of three teams in the american league last year. That averaged five hundred game. They did so with the youngest lineup in all of baseball and have since added george springer i think if they can pitch enough they can make a real run the plant. The rates at minimum is the second best team in that division. What say you know. No not not the world series. You tell me they win the division. I think that's within the realm of possibility yankees. Get some injuries. Pull them back to the pack. Some other things go well but in terms having a pitching to get all the way the world series. I just don't see it so you're wrong on that one. But your diaper dandy. Diaper dandy is christian pasha in lines. The braves opening day center fielder at the age of twenty two as we know also that he can run. We know that he can throw and we. We know that he can go. Get it in the outfield. And i will say this. I think his flash and minimum flash last year the nfc s will play up enough to make him baseball's best rookie this season. There's not agreed so typical profile for him but the tools are there. He's at tools coming out of his ears. I save pasha with the best rookie in baseball this season. Now who do you like instead. In first off. I really like him as a player but just about him in particular watching him during the postseason last year and thinking that a great cop might be andrew. Jackson simmons and anderson simmons clearly at the outset of his career was a dominant defensive player. And then i'd asked the braves about his offense Now like they felt like that he was always going to be someone who's gonna struggle somewhat offensively and i just and i'm not a professional In terms of being an evaluator on swings but it just jumped out of me that there was a lot of imprecision there and what he was trying to do. We'll see yeah. He's a young player as well. Okay most outstanding player most upsetting player in baseball. This season will be jacob degrom and has just thirty through thirty two seasons heat generated an era buster with adjusted eighty eight percent above the league average. That rings i all time right ahead of lefty grove walter johnson and greg maddux and the reason i believe that he is poised for his best season yet. Aside from be absurd stuff but he's showing in spring training. Of course it's his workload thus far he's only at eleven hundred and some career innings buster jacob degrom has thrown fewer innings in his big league career than babe ruth did. This is a player right now in the stick of its prime and for my money is absolutely on a hall of fame track. There's going to have the kind of season this year. That will be the stuff of legend. I agree with you one hundred percent. I watched him pitch. yesterday. I've actually been working on some stuff. He's going to be pitching on opening day on our first broadcast when the mets play the nationals. He is ridiculous right now and how great he is. But i want to dig into that. I'm going to send you see meals later. Today is Has some things. I'm going to be working on so that in advance and thanks for everything. I hope you don't take our insults view personally. Later analyst on the radio side the houston astros and pitched nine seasons in the big leagues. He's down in florida before we started. Today he started taunting me with that back and he told me about going. Running with tony robbins. What was that about. I wasn't running with tony. Robbins we were crossing. The and i can tell from probably sixty yards away that it was actually tony robbins. Because he's six foot seven. He's got a huge melanin the actually when when he crossed me said shallow. Hal likes gal i don. I don't know what that means what he said. So i'm sticking to it. I yeah i was wondering if you're gonna stop and get like life advice and you'd feel and you probably ran like a four minute mile is you. Were finishing up after passing and that sort of thing you know i needed. Let's let's put it that way. All right what a difference a year makes as we move forward with the american league. West previews we'll talk about the houston astros. Would it ever did a year. Makes for the astros you know a year ago. They had bunch of reporters him around. You know folks like myself because the science dealing decisions and suspension than the firing of. Aj hinch the firing of jetblue And that's all in the past. Surreal mirror. I think at least in terms of media. We'll see a fans react but the biggest thing tangibly is the fact that george springer is gone Where do they make How did they make up for his production his leadership. I don't think they do in. I don't think anyone person's gonna do that. Dusty baker address that really early. And i think he's a fiddling and he's messing around with the lineup to see who might feel that spot at the top of the lineup. That was a unique position. This resent at the top of the lineup. We didn't see a whole lot of that in the major leagues at starting to see a little more now but the prototypical slap the ball around get on base and instill base or to cause chaos on the base paths doesn't seem the way teams are going at a large degree right now. So the leadoff spots could either be mile straw who figures to be the center fielder. They've fiddled with korea at the top of the order. In the last couple of games they've done it with jose altuve Who of course has done it in the past. And i think the only question mark for me is okay as mile straw at a hit enough to get on base to to make a difference or is al to bay even wanna hit at the top of the order and he's he's pushed back a little bit in times past. I don't know if he likes that pressure to get on bates or if it takes away his aggress aggressiveness early in the counts. If that mindset Hurts him in that that fashion. But i think it makes the most sense to have to be at the top but otherwise i mean as far as charisma in what he meant to the team and his leadership. you can't replace george springer. I feel like that that a big part of Trying to make uppers. Production has to come from your don alvarez who is maybe in a better place physically than where he was last year. If you want to get really specific. Okay you put alvarez in there in. He matters a lot but there is a lot of players who underperform last year. Who you expect to be much better this year on our talking about to bake carreira bregman angry. All four infielders had down years last year. I happen to believe that. I think it had something to do with the psychology of the cheating scandal. And i think there is a lot of Mixed emotions may be shame. Embarrassment in all those things rolled into one And i think the throw. On top of that all the protocols in what we went through with the pandemic. i don't think health their mental state as well. But i'm with you. Alvarez makes a huge difference He's only played in one game so far. This spring looked. Okay he looked a little ginger getting out of the box. I thought that maybe that's more mental than it is physical at this point. I don't think he'd be on the field unless they felt like he was really ready to go. I think they're doing the same thing with pregnant with his hamstring. Tweak to just a double back. Something you said about the psychology of the fallout from the the science stanley scandal. I told the story that. I covered roberto alamar after the spitting incident and i always thought that after that happened i was covering him when it happened and then afterward i think that they like the joy kind one atom roberto to some degree and i wondered about that with the astros last year. Just coming to the ballpark just as much fun. And maybe that's something will get better with time. What do you think. I think it'll get better with time. And i think it was very real in an apparent to me anyway. Who was at the ballpark for all their home. Games and could even see the body language in between what we saw on camera and when they're taking infield in between innings you saw i. I saw a lifeless nece with his team and for the last ten days of the season. I thought man this team even if they make it into the playoffs. I mean it's going to be so quick. But i'll be darned may we were. That was part of the narrative you know on our television broadcasts in our radio broadcasts was can this team turn on the switch and i'll be darned if they didn't turn on the switch. They turned into a team that we'd seen for the last five years right before is it couldn't believe it couldn't believe the way the lifeless player i mean the guys that we thought we were dead in the water last year a rise to the top two bay did carreira. Did bregman did to an accent so we started to see somebody in the spring training. This year I think you wanna talk about how to they in rightly so with the throwing issues right now. He looks fantastic. Can be put in a lot of work. This off season with joe is spotted. The infield coach for the astros was at minute maid park working on his foot working trying to clean up some of his bad habits as far as his throwing issues were concerned in. You know as well as i do. Buster best stuff becomes more mental than it does physical at a certain point and right now everything looks really confident in very sure with the throws its feet. Look like they're under aimed at you. Know how sometimes you know you probably saw with knob lock and we saw with mackey sasser and some of these players you could almost see the wheel spinning in the guy's head right now. I don't see any hesitation mental mentally with the altuve as he throws and that's great to hear because during the postseason last year. I just felt so bad for because you knew. We hated letting down his teammates And you know my experience of watching knob lock. And i'll never forget the first throw. It was in a spring training game and ninety eight and he was a regular open second base and he launched the first base dugout in everyone looked at. He was a gold glove caliber. Second baseman and one of the dugout and it was kind of a laugh and then he did it again and then it went away for a while. And then he made a bad throw and then it came back and it would kind of come and go with the gaps in between which is why And chuck would go and work out. And he would throw the ball great and he'd be fine for two months and all of a sudden boom with one throw. It could come back. And that's what fingers crossed for jose that he doesn't of have that. the flashback so to speak and bring him back and he just move on past it because he's you know someone cares desperately when you're talking about yes and golf or or the throwing issues with anybody you don't wanna talk about it because you you wanna get that is far back in the recesses of your brain as possible. So whether or not he was able to talk to somebody through that issue it gets everything off to the side. I think the best thing that's happened to him. So far this spring as it looks like he's squashed all the questions. What i was wondering when we got here. What's he gonna look like as he throws a baseball at. What that might mean is going to be the center fielder. I started thinking you know. What can you do to keep out to out there. Got him signed up for another four or five years. So i think getting some of those questions in the background right now is what's going to help him more than anything and i do hope that he is talking to someone sports psychiatrists or a performance codes. That sort of thing. I think the yankees. In retrospect they felt like what we waited too long with knob. Lock very proud And was very upset about how and so for for the first year it felt like that he was in denial about dealing with it So i hope. Jose is talking with somebody is he. Is he worked through it. One thing. i heard from astros people. When i asked about the team was our rotation is a lot better than what people could be a lot better than what people think what he's see seeing that group. I see a fan group. You know. I not thin on talent but then on experience. And there's a real drop off when you talk about the fromberg valdez. Hurt his ring finger a couple of weeks ago and that was a big blow. He was their best pitcher last year. And when you think about okay everybody else lots up a little bit grandkids the opening day starter than its colors and then it's a hobby air in the fifth starter. I don't think oh to rizzi is going to be ready. Because he hasn't pitched in a yet this spring so if he pitches maybe ten days into the season or eight days. Whatever it is. Mrs start or two or rotation or two to get back in there. You're looking for somebody in. That's probably luis garcia at point. The real gold On any staffing. I think it's going to be across the major leagues or the guys who can go one plus innings. It's the middle relievers this year especially in the early going to keep everybody's innings down To be able to cover these innings breast trump said something famously. This offseason he said if every one of my pitchers had a thirty percent jump in innings pitched the this season compared to last year. I'm still four hundred innings. Shy and what did you do. Where do you get that while. So everybody's gonna have to use the lot of stars. The astros are going to have to use a lotta starters. They've got a lot of guys who have pitched one hundred eighty innings as a as a major league pitcher. Let's face it. So they're going to have to dig deep. They're they're phenomenal. Developing pitchers buster. They're unbelievable the guys that were starting to see at the mid and upper levels of their minor league system. The arms are ridiculous. i. I can't believe how many of them that keep throwing out there But it's real they. They've they've figured out a little formula and they draft guys on spin and and all these things and they come out there. And i think they get to the big leagues pretty quickly. We saw tin debuts as pitchers last year and for the most part they all held their own. We've got about a minute left. I wanna ask you who you view is the astros primary competition the american league west because as they talk about the podcast yesterday. I'm starting to buy the angels hype a little bit. what about you. I'm buying angels hype. I really am. And i think they can tana in the rotation that got a new closer With a glazed. As i think matters a lot in they've been brutal. I is far as pitching goes the last few years so they need griffin canning and they need some guys step up andrew heaney and some of these guys to step up to be contenders. I still think it's oakland. The astros at the top with the with the angels. Just a few games behind that so but i think it's a three team race and i think with an injury or two. We talked about the lack of depth. That the astros currently have right now. I think and i think the oakland a.'s. Know they never have enough money to get a free agent if they have somebody get her. It's that type of situation that could put the angels are right. There in the mix should some of the death of shoes Be challenged with the astros. Ace right when you go on you. Run with tony robbins tomorrow. In asia something really profound please jotted down in semi attacks. Okay spark you gotta you need. You need all the help you can get understand. thank you. bleacher tweets. already boys bleacher tweets for wednesday. When say boys. I mean tim curtin. We have him on the line to settle our bet from last week we did not get to the official finish line of our royals bet that revolved around our pal. Tim curtin i'm gonna play some sound here and then we will get tim's verdict. Well let's set it up. Let's set up what the bet was just for those who don't don't know our bet the day after the royal interview. That obe oprah winfrey had I mentioned at the top of the show. I had a question going into the production of the show that day. About whether or not tim Would have an awareness of what took place. And so i mentioned this detailer so we built bed around that and this was the conversation we had at the top of the podcast. I'm going to ask him whether or not. He's aware of what was said in the bob shell interview with harry and meghan last night. What's going to be your guest about that. Oh there's simply no chance that he knows anything about harry and meghan markle the royals. So that was the bed. But then there and you know tim talked about. What's how he ingested the information from that interview but then there was a question. I think among some of the listeners. About whether or not i actually won the bed. I thought i won the bat and then there was some pushback in the end. I wound up deciding. You know what. Let tim decide. Let tim decide if that bad. Who won that bet. So that's why we had to bring him back to ask that question all right so i have to answer the question. Yes all right taylor with the bat. Oh my god foster. The question you asked me initially was then. I watched the interview and i told you i watched the add all star. Abe said because that curry daimler were making shots from half court. I hold you the only thing i watch. That night was lebron james. So he taylor. When i do a working knowledge of this by what i read the next day but i if i didn't watch it that means i have no working knowledge. That book i know way more about prince fielder than i do about chris carey. Okay everybody knows it's hard to live in the royal family. Everyone knows that. Okay now we have to go to the tape again out. What the first question. I asked him because that's not how i remember it but that's jim that i remember it. Play the tape. So i mean obviously tim to clear me victor some partial on this. But i think you initially asked. Did he watch the interview. And then you bust you dug deeper on and you're like oh that's how he got through tim saying that. Oh i read something about it. You know where what was going on so i. It's so funny. I feel like a lawyer. Who's doubling back on. My appeals from level to level two level. But now i am sincerely curious about the question. Because if if what tim said is exactly right that i asked my first question was whether or not he watched than than Absolutely he then that decisions right. But i have my questions tim who right so there are two parts to this. If i answering the question. I did not watch. Do i have a mild working knowledge of the royal family. Yes i do and what happens in that interview. But only because i read about it the next morning not because i watched it live so backed by the decision. I'm throwing down like clipboard. And i'm walking out this new buster you set up one way and then you ask the question the other. Wait a second telling you just said last week you thought i won the bet. In retrospect and now you're doubling back on that yet. Because tim has brought to light information that i previously also like goodness tim. You're dismissed all right thank you. I hope i didn't cause any real proud but we do. There's a ramp is done. All right go the tweets. Thanks for Go on a better job of setting the whole thing up. And i did. So you've gotta producers career and yet let's go to andrew desalvo desalvo ocean. He writes in put these three in order from soonest to happen too longest time away from happening in major league. Baseball moves the mound back. Several feet major league baseball permanently moves all games to seven innings and the twenty twenty seven world series which happened soonest. Twenty twenty seven world series happens i The mlb permanently move games. Seven innings would happen. Second and i don't think they'll ever move back. They'll make adjustments with the rules in the user starting pitchers before they would move the mound back already. Las today stephen. Otley at stephen ali rates and we know there's lots of shortstops hitting the offs the hidden in the market next offseason. What do you think the demand will be like. How many teams a shortstop and be be willing to pay top dollar. Yeah we've talked about how the players side there are. A ton of great shortstops potentially going be available francisco in door if he doesn't sign a long term deal Carlos correa Cory seager hob year baya's And there's one other as well that i'm forgetting But they're five elite guys and then when you look at the teams that could be out there looking for shortstops. The giants need a long term solution at shortstop. Texas rangers need a long-term saluto. Trevor story is the fifth. And i ain't the rangers are going to be all over trevor's story. During the upcoming off season the yankees the mets the phillies the red sox. If they decide at some point they wanna move zanu. Bogart's another spot. The dodgers would have to decide what to do. Shortstop core seger left the cubs. The astros if you're one of those guys then you probably feeling pretty good about your chance of getting paid. If you have a good 2021 carlos correa has got to show that he can stay healthy. I cover stories. Got to have a big year hobby. Your bias has got to demonstrate. He's more consistent Francisco endure your needs to have a good season if he doesn't sign a long term deal so that absolutely is going to be at the top of the conversation when we get to the fall already. That doesn't release. Your tweets gleacher tweets on twitter. And please follow rate and review this podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. I can't believed him decision. I'm so bitter. Thanks to dave hembo steve. No thanks to tim. No thanks to taylor have a great day. Everybody thanks. you're listening. Stay safe and remember hating inequality based on. Tim keller is something that we need to fight against every single day for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball check out the fantasy. Focus podcast wherever you listen to podcast. The baseball tonight podcast.

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