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Old Man Quill #9, Savage Avengers #5: Superconnectivity Episode #253

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Old Man Quill #9, Savage Avengers #5: Superconnectivity Episode #253

"This episode of Cape Some Lunatics brought to you by tweaked audio. Get Awesome Headphones tweak audio dot com and use the coupon code South eight thirty percent off free shipping in a lifetime warranty or you can get their link on our website Southgate Media Group dotcom. The music and that's the time that lets you know weirdness was about to be dead cats and kittens. My My name is Charlie. The Professor Esser Guide you along the world comic wisdom and foolishness which path we only know when we get to the end and with me as always is the bashful blue eyed Palmer Burger pits fill fill me in pairs which nicknamed you gave me which like everyone uses now filming. 'cause you always filling again. You see what people don't know is a big picture guy. I like stand league. I like that big epic and then fill so is my Jack Kirby. He fills in the details is as okay while he's going to have to at least have five. Maybe three of them at if I'm feeling excited in order that money you're gonNA call me shooter. No no your ear. You're not a shooter. The manager expectations now no. I'm just saying you do the details now enough about you to say he did detail at work as far as not strokes shooter was just very controlling Nassar. People got mad at him but sometimes you need a good executive. you need a good editor. You know you got guy. That says look chill out. This is the story. This is the arc all you you guys stand in New York. You know I two okay. Let's get it going writer artists your gathercole the right doesn't autism the world by twos and have them produce great work that was jim shooter's motto and that's where it kept US anyway. Welcome back to the show kids for those of you who just listened to keep some lunatics are mother show but a little offspring of them struggle to reach the case and it's basically the same big personality little hellfire. Tell her to show up his hey 'cause he was working. Hey if you if you get off now nine and it's already nine forty three feel go free to jump in and says you know we miss the guy okay. Let's look at things like what this week. Do you WanNa talk. You WanNa talk. Murder mysteries wander vision or comic books. I don't know did you. WanNa save comics for last because that's what we usually we usually do what we know bound owned by the rules man. Let's talk about this murder mystery. Let's talk about the murder mystery and you want to get to one division is about that torn so somebody's dead oh no that's it's a green woman on Star Trek but actually it's it's the Anna Troy and just agree remiss is inviting her mind which whatever will be will import it. It's next Saturday yeah. Oh No look silent was on the other ones anything search until you're vote so that's weird who anyway who tried Rod. Try Things you ever showed up on voyager or just nine. It's weird. She was on enterprise. She was on enterprise. I was I think it was the last episode where basically like raker and troy. We're talking about like that original enterprise in like they show through flashbacks and and stuff so yeah it was troy was on voyager because member like she was taught at least an episode where she was talking the Barclay. Oh Oh uh-huh yes. Yes I remember that how okay well you do such a panoply of characters on that show that you often forget about and they were all Barclay my favorite yes neither Broccoli which what superheroes commander carrot role in that Commander Broccoli it anyway long but we're talking about. We were talking about murder mystery murder mystery so there someone got murdered in the Marvel Universe that never happens but for some reason the four original members of the fantastic four were there Jane Foster is there in her serve alcohol Persona Black Panthers there as well as Captain Marvel. The white person being killed iron man. I was there yeah. I'm I'm looking at the picture now. Yeah yeah well yeah well. At least the armored consuming it's Tony Stocks or the research body and he's is it now again. You know like we said it. It looks fine with me. Go ahead. No go ahead. I'm sorry I was GonNa say now we were saying before. It looks like kind of looks like a woman okay. Phil thinks it looks like there is some mild flaring hips. Arguably there is shading on the left side of the chest now. Does that denote a woman. I don't Awesome I. I think it's either a woman or someone young like could be like teenager. Maybe maybe well wouldn't necessarily have playing it now. Say we're not nature. That's the thing yeah it's it's what is oh. Oh Oh my gosh. I just realized who it is. Who Destiny there's zero. She's already dead yeah. No no destiny we saw in house ex I think was from one of those other timelines destinies like guessing late eighties intro. Al That I'll never mind that because that was his thing we're thinking about. Who can it be well harkness because she's already that it's not it's not it's not an may cause as if it was made in Spiderman would be there. What did you see. All these like images. Were getting for this incoming events. I guess that's what they're calling. It like the first one. was you see that image with the guy with this. There's somebody with a sword who they're not shown who it is. Oh Fudge okay so so okay so jumping right ahead. my first. Surrey was under it could be. It's the beyond irs body is dead in well recognized that buddy who could missed that air as founded a calf neo outfit on thirty Fourth Street. He's got long black curly hair but he's a white. Dude is pretty rip uh-huh. Oh that's beyond a comic book beyond Your Copy Captain America so he now they're like I. It is America's his ass. That's right yeah. That's as as people have said you know. Sam has more than just big big shoes to though but I mean the yes it like yeah we got the clue I mean some figure holding a sword over their head that says one will unite them and then we got the dead body with everyone standing around founded then. Did you see that There's a figure like blacked out. It's like a dead body and a chalk outline and I don't know if it's like the star brand on its chest. Maybe Oh oh my gosh they had mentioned that in an episode adventures recently New Star brand had shown up it was in that that was one of the one of the many many one of those many off handed battle scenes that to challenge getting a from the computer is getting a depressing. I think it was he was the one when when they had the fake aiming house from show up with a shaved head Tamie. It's Kirby one of his clones because he actually said he made clones of him so just to see what their destiny would be. You know what you get like casual to the idea of human life and the existence of an immortal soul like this one well. Let's see what this person will do. They released the son of Satan is some of the state so that's that's the thing so yeah but it wasn't mentioned in that episode about a New Star brand who is unstable has come into existence now. I don't have the last star. Brandon thought the last star brand was still operational but maybe not so much books now who knows who died in west issue well. What was that that that big marvel was that book but I didn't go think ghost rider kills storebrand or something that that big marvel book Marvel. Who is it a more was a marvel legacy seth name of it awesome we? I don't know I didn't read it. I'm guessing by the name of it was at least a five dollar book and it wasn't exactly my marvel marvel one thousand so in a year is at least a year ago I think but yeah but yeah like all those clues are fluent out there and then the last thing I saw today is as they said no a alliances coming between Xavier magneto and apocalypse. There's already a line between McMurdo exurbia in apocalypse. Go Pass affects You're reading that book fell. I mean they they put it out there the headline today like it's like a big surprise even if you look at the X. men books that are coming after house of extra powers of x Exhibitor Magneto and apocalypse are all over this covers unlike I you knew this was coming well. Maybe maybe not everyone so for example. If I if I was next fan which I am not you know Oh. That's an interesting side note to a series of books. I don't read it's like if you're next fan and someone said Oh read Richardson that Victor Van Douma teaming up. Oh that's interesting. Did they. The already do that several times like you know like yeah. I've done this don kings in it. It's like really I think that makes it different because not for nothing even within that hurt concept. It's like you know Magna's allied with Apocalypse Yeah David with Magneto ally because I oh I think I'm being a thousand percent honest here models trying to make X. Men Habits. I told you I think they're they're kind of playing with them. Keeping them kind of I don't WanNa say generic but until Disney's puts out like a set image and plan for like the movies and something then they're gonna like mold them into that. You know whatever that comes well no. I think that I think they're Ju- No I think it's the exact opposite. I think that Heck Miller was hired to say excellent You Make X. Men something that we can use because never nothing the Fox's X. men we can't use because they've been around the block of Utada uh-huh wrong with that but it's like you know I you know unless we're casting Patrick Stewart and the other guy. It's like you know you know the young guys. It's like well. That's going to be too much tied to the other thing. It's like you could you could put so in the Watson space. reboot luke out the actor who played Zachary Smith who was so alive but insane Leo with very upset that he wasn't asked too much less much like a and west was upset. They didn't even ask Shattner. No no no shandor center is very self-aware. You can't be that good and what you do and not be self aware so shatner basically said we're not shattner but you know I was a little noisy didn't even ask me to be part of this when the ad at making 'cause he didn't expect himself to be Batman man said well. Maybe they could they could make Alfred the could make commissioner coordinate. There's lots of roles you can put me in and I was a little offended that they said we don't the snap and then they went did in honestly like if you ever wanted to talk about suits interfering I will wager that free can Dan what's his name who who directed that film. Tim Burton Burton wanted Adam West but to do a cameo but the studio said no Adam West don't don't associated with I think or what specific that jerk who bought the rights to Batman where it was cheap as not like I o Batman 'cause I the random clean it marvel or DC that Batman was available and I bought it for a thousand dollars uncles rich and so I did and now I'm a millionaire or billionaire what God knows what basically. DC's Pearl Mutter just a jerk who owns the WHO owns the rights to things who causes problems for yeah but I just are eighty-nine Batman movie. They wanted the they wanted to distance themselves from the Adam West Batman series and they're like. Yo Look you know it was basically Batmans ends. You know after this four serials of the forties. This was like Batmans. I like big well after the nineteen sixty six but this was like it was big Batman movie twenty years. They wanted yeah well that goofy Batman. This is the talk pacman and if you have that in west of the movie you're being constantly reminded but then why you cast for what do you get Tim Burton to direct it. What do you get the most comic bookie of directors who designed the interior of Gotham that look like like just some strains Salvador Dali of how would Salvador Dali designed a city if he read comic what they wanted to authorities but they are also like Oh yeah. This is a comically I mean I'm not saying that Tim Burton didn't everything my money is. It was a conversation in a in a studio office where timber and said yeah all we should get Adam West and burt ward. Get Earth Kit show up in the you'll. He'll just cameos just the way they didn't superman the way they did. They had Jimmy Olsen Louis Lynch Open Superman just small bits small character bits than everyone loves it and it was like their and that's fun and then went enjoys put remember nine hundred eighty nine. I don't think they knew the PAO especially the suits they enter the power of the crossover. They anything people cared about that but then once everyone was as you get that you know that actor from the previous version in there and you know nowadays you know I mean look crazy and infant. is going to do now. They know what I'm saying is down renewing in a senator of new in the late seven yeah but you said the suits the suits are always the last the no fair enough I mean I guess that's my point is that you know you know what it's worth. At the end of the day there was an entire universe available and I don't think Tim Burton was the one who said I don't want Adam west of myself. I don't think I don't I think there was no. I'm not peace and we we have any silly comic book volunteer failed. I do not believe for a second that Tim Burton's said. It's you know yeah I mean I can absolutely see timber. Casting Adam West is like Milkman but that's about it. That's the that's like the lowest blow I could give to timbers on. That subject is like you. He's GonNa come a nurse in the here's your milk. Mr Way just to show how out of time the entire Wayne the entire Batman in which then feeds into the the the Tim Tim Averse and everything else that's come with that man of the atom time concept the concept that you don't know exactly what time it is that feeds leads into Gotham although they all have phones probably because the city won't pay for anything more him moving right along all right subject I duNNo. I forget how we were talking about the X. Men X. Men Yes yeah because we went from that. incoming event X. men you know the the alliance between the X men characters in the movies in the incoming sounds fun you know but I don't know what is what we're really meant to take from it. The image is a bunch of puzzle pieces. This is in cosmic vision would a photograph whatever ridiculous image to have listen to capes a lunatics this week to get that. Did you like Oh. I guess Dr Manhattan's Attack Naral Universe now or the Marlboro pastiche document hidden who wiz wait for the molecule man which we see is the central figure in the current future foundation so again displaying exactly how absolutely nothing that what's his name Alan Moore ever evidences original document hadn't is literally just the molecule man opinion blue who doesn't like to wear clothes. He's he's basically if if the molecule man wasn't kind of never she would if the what was only only two of my number of the most powerful big in the US and like well. He actually has been that way. Several Times still take off his pants. What if what if what if you know molecule man helped that the future foundation rebuild the multi-diverse like I mean with the star Garbrandt stuff what if we're like folding in like the entire new universe you know maybe that body someone for the new universe and you know that's. Why Tony's there Reid Richards. Is there too tall as they're like okay. This is a this is a Meta humid. You know this is like a superhuman but no one we ever seen you know they're. They're I duNno. They're or whatever isn't from this universe else's body coming from some dude from kick kickers INC amy okay. Let's universe you know what you know but the thing is kickers. INC is like the one new universe thing that was like we don't talk it like all the things we don't talk about. What did she like to talk about. Your DP seven DP seven the other than kickers inc hit for what it's worth in this of course is the genius of shooter. I think that you'll sports teams would want to have like several years later. You actually do get a cartoon June about like superpower superheroes of yours call but at a tie in with Saddik shock so what was that was it like around nineteen ninety the yeah I never read it but not NFL super pro comic or whatever they did a cartoon of today they did. They did a super poker game the hockey player ever since it was just it was it was steel times a thousand it was it was beautiful in in its eccentricity. Oh I could break even even at like twelve years old. I'm like I can't bring myself to read this. Yeah it was it was an interesting idea just in cancer but that shooter he would shooting a guy who he likes. Let's look at what is coming in. Let's get ahead head of it but unfortunately sometimes you get too far ahead. Everyone just thinks you just wanNA grizzly. It's coming. It's coming nothing behind. You know it doesn't it's going well in ten years. It's going to be here. Trust me start running now. It's like yeah full. Oh Yeah Full Shula. Just keep running. Keep just keep running and then it's. Oh look at that and that's how the universe coats sometimes. You're too smart for your own good. That's the but yeah I mean. I'm assuming we're going to get more clues between now and then I think they said that in-coming drop drop like the day after Christmas so we got new ones. It's Santa it's Mrs Claus. Sir Killed as as wedded Paul will point out is candidate number worse the Senate Santa become another punisher drew. No well always was close coal now going to use news them now I have. I have a machine gun. Ho whole keeping now. I know you've been naughty. ooh San Man. The possibilities are endless yeah so so yeah. It's it's. It's a person possibility under sheet she has this is nothing it's like. I feel like the way they drew her. Ankles and feet were kind of weather. I mean they weren't your typical superhero feet. Well like I said we don't. We don't know the method of death I mean in what if someone got burned to death or something or well there was no charring I now that's my thing is Phillip. When it comes to these I think I think I know a bit about him up to say the condition of the body. Could you know you'll know cause of death. Yeah well based on based on what yeah I think. It's extreme old age. So Oh my God they're gonNa Kill Sharon Carter ooh Forty Philip. That's too old comic and what's happening. Hey Peggy's back you know we got a version of piggybacks a young peggy so and that is just tallahassee patsy. Don't go there. It'd be better than that. He maybe he won't. I mean maybe someone else right in this incoming event that might be someone else for right in the death scene yeah. I I mean right now. We got the reverse of the old that Peggy chairin relationships now sharing physically. He's older than pick. She's she's still only forty but I know listen is. She was only there for twelve years. It is like writing for thirteen years twelve years twenty five be some kind constraining may seated miss. Go walking sell aislinn or she's forty years old. Where's her Walker Walker. I mean that for nothing. It's just it's just ridiculous but yeah so. That's that's. That's so whoever this person is murdered. They have weathered ankles. It's a white person possibly female It's it's like the obvious thought is. It's probably the founding probably get get around to come off frigging. May What told you the picture if it was anthony seeking vengeance. Actually you know what that makes the most ideal because yeah it was the last time one of these people last time last time the the siblings my parents died. I went in on a murder. Sam Prayed so get. It's that time of year again and that's it. Is You know he's like that time of year again. I gotta go out. I gotta go. Oh kill somebody 'cause. I'm the spider man I gotTa kill stuff because I'm a really good experience. Kill things so if era spider man you're probably gonNA kill things all right all right. Let's switch. I mean you said you wanted to talk some one division. I wonder if some wine division because is this is the this is the big theory out there in the universe right. Now is that in the same way netflix built two defenders while their version version of the defenders of the best defenders they could do and short notice forever actually well. I guess some of them were defenders. unders at some point but none of them were really corps defenders or maybe ever defenders heard that moment. I lights here keep tied Eric the most I think any iron-fist or our man might have been defenders high like for one tapie lots of teams. That's on hell cat was a defender. The closest they've got to an actual defendant was L. Kent was one thousand percent defender but but the basic idea is so okay we we have a Hawkeye so we have a kate bishop. We I haven't won the vision that suggests we can speak we have. We you have captain bucky which could bring in a a Elijah Bradley and maybe a Patriot you know we have. We certainly already have creases crawl so we can get a hulking like that. That's the you can drive a hopefully anyway so good. I'm hoping I exist. That's the thing but the reality is that you have set up where I think you're more complex. Complex characters are kind of written into the story in our Disney plus so I think that the idea is is that they're setting up the new avengers or or the new of it. They'll probably call them. The new avengers and I think two years time you'll get you'll get a You'll get a power man forming. The new adventure says the leader Vendor says the old guy trying to get these kids in line. you know Oh Man I would love to see you did dynamic between power man and Hawkeye you WanNa take these kids on creek crazy frequented ventures in of course we have a stature. Cherno statues thirteen years old so you know or fifteen years how old he was the last movie you know the idea that we could building vendors is already the established in the MC and Disney seems to be working towards that idea and the idea that we will get these young avengers by the end of it is interesting and when we have of our time traveling possibly body switching. Loki puts an interesting another attack on his we all know oh low key is the reason the avengers form and if we are to say the reason the avengers form is because Loki knows the universe needs the adventures if the avengers are kind of in disarray than low key with his time traveling so I guess the world needs more ventures. Oh Hey let me see how let me see if I can trick all these people into being avengers. Hey I'm this article found on our rancor dot com. It's talking about all. The characters have been defenders. it this one sentence many popular marvel characters like ant man. Iron Fist Luke cage each anther devil have also joined the group really early so you got three of four majors so defender so I mean you got more come. I mean you already have doctor strange of course beast because we got was wasn't in the defenders. That's my point. It's Netflix. That's strange. He wasn't in but I'm saying I'm talking about network vendors yeah so it's like we had and yeah and so great. I mean that there was a defender. I mean you know let's face champions with Angel Hercules and Ghost Redder yes. Did you see Danny catches. The new ghostwriter will come with the Danny Ketch Book Yeah Well. What if I'm fascinated about. Is that kind kind of jumps away from Ravi race well. I wonder if I wonder if Danny Ketch is going to have the solo book and then is Robbie. Ray is going to be in the avengers this book although he's trying to get rid of his power. I don't know if they're benching him or if they're just gonNA keep him in avengers well. I mean it's an interesting question because they obviously burnt him up a AH shield the keep on saying goes try to you know it's coming back slowly supposedly he's that same actors reprising the role for that Hulu series. Mary sell okay so it's interesting to me. They're in lesser like covering less betting both black and red you know but but fifty I'm black for kindred. I never lose money. That's what I'm so. Maybe they're trying to give everyone that ghostwriter. No I mean right now. Joining blazes the King of Hell but you know vistas. GonNa kick him out eventually so I'm just wondering are we. GonNa have three goes drivers so like. Are you giving everybody what they will. You know away. You like Johnny Blaze Air. Is You like Danny Ketch there he is he like Robbie race. He's he's here to yeah. I Want Jiemin back. That's all I'm saying. man was the nineteen thirties ghostwriter. I explain first shown in the in the secret war you like these guys with one lender for names demand. Manji man and speaking of you man this anyone else in the universe think that freak in John Walker Ah what's his name the guy from escape from New York so Wyatt Russell Russell looks heck of a a lot like demand and all of the publicity still well yeah. Here's a big beard but I wonder if they're gonNA make them shave it. Though for the plate big red beard and they're doing it for the publicity this shot is he thought it was blonde or something. It's reddish per. It's like my hair. You know what I was a young man. You don't know me when I was gorgeous that now it's it's it's much more efficient is stronger than the water in my dishwasher plant now but what if he's Dennis Dunphy the US agency that's exactly what I'm trying to lead to weight is up on the lead though it is that a stuffy what I'm guessing they're gonNA do is. They want to tell a story they. WanNa tell Dennis Duffy the story of the man who what they really want to do so. Here's what they're cramming into a John Walker Story. They WANNA take the Johnnie Walker Super Muscular superpatriots they WANNA take William burnside. I Captain America sess it who becomes Captain America and they want to take the dentist stuffy. I WANNA be a hero and and I WanNa do good redemption for tomorrow in the one character full them on the one character that the Colleen Walker so you think he was just going to be John Walker taste super racist frigging crazy guy like know exactly way more deep than that 'cause we're. GonNa folded Dennis Duffy and freaking creaking William Burnside so it's like there's Dennis Stuffy. He gets serum. He's Captain America but he's also Kinda got some. Um to give them the name John Walker's like an alias or could cover or something. It sounds like an alias from the start. Yeah I know it sounds like a made up name because after the whole thing when it comes us agent the like the government fakes his death and guess what name they give them not no no. You're closed instead instead of John Walker. He was Jack Daniels. Oh so it'd be met one point another alias Navy. It's all AH university yeah but Jinping's my favorite. I'm going to say that now but yeah so so yeah. The Dennis Duffy a how were Dennis burnside or describes here you know wasn't captain America Obsessive Super. You know a great fighter harder because he's been a champion champion. Stuffy wins another round. You know yeah but I wanted you Laura. He's great. It's great to beat up people but I WANNA be at people for a reason and here comes hey. Would you like to be the new captain America Orca. I love that that sounds great. Wait what oh no but I have weird thoughts in my head. That's not good and you know who helps them when it has and that's his head fell squirrel girl talk I was GonNa say Disney plus. If you want to give Charlie a dresser at Christmas and birthday present combined in introduced the unlimited class wrestling wrestling federation into this universe. I got married so much consents. I actually really still because unlimited woman class. Wrestling has been around since the eighties. It's obvious thing like once. You have to our beings that everyone wants to be a superhero supergirl really I would rather other just have a decent life for danger mate. That should be your first arc of the she hulk. Series is the Dan Germain story those you don't remember Dan Germain was a he worked Roxanne Chemicals. Just another guy working at a completely has there is no a AH unsafe plant was a safety inspector. He was Dan Germain. He was in danger man because he was a hey. That's dangerous don't do that that don't do that. Don't do that and then he falls. The council's gained superpowers but then it's like. I don't want superpowers. Don't want to do anything with s yeah. I know I'm as strong as yeah I know him the most powerful being in the universe but that's really not useful in my day to day life of coming home to my wife and children in and having a nice quiet life to watch star. Trek reruns on TV that really isn't that was another my optimistic things. I wanted to do you wrecking wrong. Yes I would like wrongs to be writing. I do not want to have to put it in that time to write the ROMs. That's what at least officers for debit to the vet. Let them go that but that has its own problems yeah so the Dan and Germaine Stories should definitely be our first. She'll car without danger may he is like one of those forgotten characters in the marvel universe. That is just so awesome in these. He's not for nothing. I'll say this Novak well. bills get some comic. Owen quilt less age man. I don't know man I know. He doesn't really look like it but man my heart pints for it they could that guy be that could be bolder. That's what I was trying to figure out like I mean of course you could recognize vision but I'll try how to figure out if they were like you know I mean I don't even know Buller ever wore goggles something about him. It's like man. He looks like he looks like book. There was this whole thing if he just didn't eat eventually lose weight with any sense because it's like his weight and his hours aren't in any way tie but it's a post apocalyptic world. I mean probably hard to get a decent meal and he doesn't need you can just keep on going without ever eaten and it's like yeah. That's fine. That's fine. That's why he's just doing these things in do repetitive motion just eventually got ripped and skinny and it's like yeah yeah. I guess so I don't know but that they would introduce boulder in this story would make me so happy and the the idea and so and I love it just because quillet so crazy things like aware of his own crazy and I know you finally figured out but which makes me wonder if there's a springer something something that's causing these nations but given even the avengers have found him after he creates approaches basically fold space-time up on itself which Judy how could that caused because the return of Heroes Holding Space Time itself I don't know let's look at the cover of next issue. What what that one travelling through time Colo Vision on the whole moral west thing because vision vision kind of had a that's the old from the forties right yeah forty vision who got a like repreive it when they back I live with the winter soldier series they did during the Perot story and it's like the whole idea is is that no the visions whole existence is refined cubes which are essentially uninvolved beyond irs help them come to be proper beyond irs. There's stuff going on with the Sandra's fan which is why I am not dismissing the idea that they found the the banderas body and that's who's on the sheet in that thing you know so yeah so next issue old man Quilt Fall Space and time and then all the heroes come back but one thing I thought was funny because we doom getting the report. Oh yeah there is like this big space time event you know by the old Baxter building still he doesn't say a word still mad IMASCO prepared. Are you know Lord doomed ship and stuff. Like what are we going to get like next day. She like that a mask walking around like weaken the Bernie's. It's like this retaliate. How dare you laugh although I will say that you have a really good China. This is very well preserved so again and it's do or but oh my gosh are just remember. doom has brown eyes. Oh those are blue here. Yeah that reminds is me up on my gosh. Oh that is like either to color snaking the same mistake twice or one of the most interestingly d old Man Universe questions ever answered in the original old man logan when they do a flashback to the red skull killing Cap Cap Has Brown Brown eyes. That's thing it was bucky not Steve Rogers. What Arenas Brown is too so that doom can't be rate. What eight could say who are GONNA say. I was GONNA say Janis cromer though could be been ingram to. I was going to say what about Kristof oh it could. I don't I don't know what Color Chris outsize man. It's it's funny. You know exactly what color everyone's eyes are in the Blue Green read the lecture several characters right right so but yeah put that is interesting because I know I remember doom has brown yeah and that is a very very specific trope and again a trope that again was recently was equally subverted in this universe with Captain America. Having grown is here's the thing I think people who write counterparts probably read them from time to time and I think that if so we're doing something in the old man averse well. What's the old members. Oh there's this series let me a while ago old man Logan. We've done a couple stories and that we just said old men. Hawkeye paying we intentionally. I mean they really get a close up at night is so I mean yeah and not for nothing. It's like fifteen being books. If that was your job to fifteen comic books in a different kind of I read like six into our over so I think you could pull that up. It's time to sit with the wife and kids. After so that is an interesting decision that was made in that could be a huge revelation what color it is yeah so an old man quilt yes so he a beat up the bad guys. Chris Space Daniel and Warp Yada Yada Yada prisoners ensues is found by vivid and the new avengers with boulder if you didn't eat for thousand years because you didn't have to maybe it wouldn't you know and he's a hero. So of course there's only so much food around around. He's afraid he's GonNa feed you exactly themself. As either the needle he's never hungry that he ate for pleasure. He Drinks Soda. He'd you drink soda rather than alcohol because of how doesn't affect them as well. I like to tasted soda but at the moment that nothing actually has value to them. It's like well. You know I'll give you have soda. Have the clean water whatever it's like. I don't die you know I'm boulder yeah you know and so. I guess Tony Circles right eventually I did lose. It's too late so good for good for twenty star in his theory that over a thousand years. I didn't need anything I would eventually delay yeah him. The did you read fantastic for this week Phil. Yes I did man. Was this like a special cover. This no 'cause I am might must be at different cover because yeah mine's different. I got the the four them on the I got this. I like this cover because it is about the mutation of bend into the thing and and you know for a completely talking heads up and this is literally. Let's sitter. Let's go to a museum about the exhibits episode the original spaceflight of the fantastic four and did you notice what the name of the ship is called. The was at the Marvel One yes do do you think for five seconds ever called them over one prior today's issue. There's all bunch of wreck cons in this like those other to this other two crew members that were we're supposed to go up with them. Those completely no but the marvel. That's what I find most fat again Franklin. Don't don't be creative. Okay okay. No one asks you to remain the ship. Your parents went up. I know obviously never nothing. It actually suggests that Franken totally chemically aware there's no no they're going to like this by calling them over one. Oh you think rangelands down much in control or is he like changed the pop and it's like oh now they're calling it the marvel one. Toca or maybe we saw on feature foundation that that was actually race race is the beyond her and the behavior is own race and and is trying to recreate a south that is contain concepts to be taken from secret war secret orts two and everything outside has happened since then is the beyond her wants to have a contain south because he is torn apart by the universe versus the same way that the mockumentary part evil read Richard. I mean you call that rocket. The Marvel one that says the me that you know if if there has been tampering with the universe someone someone's breaking the fourth wall the know that these are marvel comics. Do you think since the death of the universe in secret wars and put back act together. Kenna molecule man break the fourth wall now. Oh I would imagine you always good but I'd say even more so now that he's seen what's out you know or yeah well. I mean that's the thing is that the entire universe was laid bare yes and or maybe it's all bull but but what I love about this is the ad and this is. I don't know if any old metal reading this comic book aside from me but this is an old man Comic Book Doc. It's yeah okay but yeah you haven't ever ystad get that entire all the wife and husband scene of like well yeah. You know I know what we're GonNa do and love the fact that you're going to do it. I love everything that you're doing against having a good relationship of a wife food like I know you're quirky. You let them Quirky. Yael Reed Richards doesn't care that his wife's a spy. Yeah go buy it up sweetheart sweetheart that makes you happy go spite up instead of the instead of the guy who runs his model railroad in the basement. He's building rocket ships. Well well no but it's a it's a two way street. You know like with Richards. He tell me reader doesn't know his wife is secrets shield agent going you know he knows he's like. Oh Yeah. Just look into that. It's like Oh okay. You're hanging out with that dude and you're having thirty conversation rhythm. That's fine you know. At least it's like named work. Mark never nothing you know name or was first name. Were name was a creek name was a total creeper. He's totally. Im Name also also you should have sex with me. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this work you. I can't say I am name. Were so have sex with me. It's like no your name more and maybe if you're an interesting person in have ignited conversation. Maybe we might have sex ex but I mean do is the ultimate creeper how many appearances he just shows up in his underwear. Well Yeah I mean you know you live onto Wabi. Abby different have different sense of modesty. You know that's that's the thing it's hard to talk with. Women still bikinis underneath the water so but yeah but the idea is that you know read. I think I think Reid is cool with and for what it's worth who partnered with many hats. He's like no dude. I actually have good relationships. I'm not worried about my wife. Leaving me yeah for you know Oh by contrast obviously evil Richardson the future foundation had a bad relationship with his wife or his the first thing he wanted to marry like nine. WanNa marry you do your your your leaper and that let him down. The path of villainy because dude really is it that important that you have to go down the path villainy because a girl wouldn't date you. That's like that's your bar. That's your bars like the girl I want didn't want to pick me. I'll show them all do doctor doom had like his face mangled and stuff. You know Roy so at least he's like no. I was a genius and the fool's science girl didn't want to take me. I'll destroy the university because it's like I told you the super bowl the name Moore's royalty. I mean basically maybe that's the first time here no matter Matt for nothing this need mark but yeah but here you know and again like I mean in its own way kind of Jerky in the way that like read redesigns the apartment and Alicia like you know dude. You can't move all exactly flip telling me because it's like a really frigging rude. You know who've land I I'm here and you know. I need to know where the walls are like dude. I'm so sorry I'd be for sighted people for a blind person. That's even worse really really but you know then. Of course this is like I know you're GonNa be open the spaceship. Neil don't think the kid ourselves it. It looks like let's not kid ourselves Ben. I know who you are. I know what you're doing. It's like Oh wait. You mean the ship so good drive drive it. Obviously we always wanted you to drive it. This should not be a surprise to you then. You're not that you know and then they go off into space and again. I want to know if read actually so next issue. I want to say actually no. I did actually schedule this flight with the with the FAA. We did clear it with NASA and everyone said look. We're GONNA shoot a rocket in this space like to do this. I'd like to do this under twenty. Five November eight nine pm that works for so you get like okay we can we will will allow it and so they did what that scene Miro Writers. I want the scene where we inexpensive. Yes I did talk to the FAA. This is not an illegal rocket flight. We actually actually all the forms in triplicate it make sure that we could fight what or what about a special arrangement where like you know the space from like above their headquarters till orbit is like a no fly zone until like they just have a straight shot upward like no planes can fly through never nothing. That's actually really practical that you should have. That straight shot no-fly-zone especially for them. Yeah Still GonNa be flying into space. You Know Oh that that was that was fantastic for. I love that book this week. let's see here. We talked a bit about seventy ventures and the fact that spoiler little who've ready yet that don't listen as I mean well. You know not much happens in seventy vendors exactly example the find out that that apparently there's so many of the marrow guide was all part of a further diabolical plan by the evil wizard. Yeah we also saw that. CONAN's not like being teleported as like magic worked on him. Yes well dude. Don't frigging work magic agic on the man which I honestly nothing nothing. That's how everyone in the universe should be like dude you. Could you know oh it's like we fear hypnotists sometimes because don't make me hurt chicken to Cook Richie. you know it's like Dude I. I don't want to be not in control and it's like well. You know meanwhile we do it all the time. It's like stepping into a jumbo jet. You know it doesn't matter if it's destroying the environment. We're GONNA fly ourselves. We WANNA be quickly. I mean you're a bigger CONAN expert than I am but I mean most of the time when when when CONAN encounters magic I mean it's usually not good I mean barbarians never like magic because magic it is basically in this is this is the crux of the savage vendors are which is the idea of Heff actually better Lord Lord Lord in Lorden Despot Graham You know it's like look cram. CRUMB polls US IN BR BR crown gives us life and when we when we run out of Life Cram watches aside. Let's all crime. Does you don't WanNa you don't WanNa gain the attention of crime crime to make you. His special favorite has an all. That's going to happen to you as everyone you love is GonNa Die Crime. Is the reader bigger problem. It's the person let's see what happens next A. Wouldn't it be lovely. The personally fell in love with died or let's see would have and that's crime and that is where CONAN's coming from in this issue of Conan. We actually as as you will recall. We're watching you know the blood witches whatever training and we find him in this you'll his much as I don't like time travel or stories. I love tongue so Conan is doing it well because it's already established. It's larger framing device. Um we're X. men is doing poorly because we have no idea what it's larger framing devices yes now that CONAN is by its nature somewhat with disconnected tomorrow universes that whole is probably why it has its pass so when you jump into exponentially this it's it's a little harder to do because it's like well. That's one of the core pillars of the moral universe. You can't just mess. Let's with it but in this issue we have essentially CONAN waking up as he has most of these episodes sort of inner random point in China nine and he's fighting monsters. He doesn't remember why we find out that well I if he fights gorilla man for some reason and sees actually just a memory secular leaves monster but eventually he meets the white like which I there who has only existed within the Leviathan Leviathan God is I adjacent Leviathan under the Ocean Yada Yada Yada know this for a few pages. Eventually we get to the lagoon of blood blood which all rivers flow because all the caves are inside the monster. CONAN faces the monster from his future. That's his future much. I don't know what that is. No I think it's carnage. They don't WanNa see carnage in the cone inverse but you know well. I mean he might face me savage vendors yeah whatever it is but it kills how's. The levion guide which is a big basically giant sea worm earthworm monster double headed thing where instead of werm concept as friends get to go free and the white witch. WHO's the one getting who was born within? Ah Guy Makes the point that you know the thing he saw was from his future future when she gets so that's the that's the demon that eventually sacrificed to as the arc of the story and how that's GonNa turn in but Conan I think has really strong hotline is building towards something big within the Martin but you skip the reporters. Savage avengers the end which was Oh god it doesn't want teleported. Outta the savage land so him and Frank Castle kind of do like a buddy road trip out of the savage land carrying castles. You know that family which which is always interesting because you in ways castle castle dragnet children CONAN's dragging his wife so the two kids Ed's or equal in weight to the one wife. You know I'm wondering about the debate when discussing who's GonNa drag who you know I mean I mean I get it. I love the buddy the buddy road trip thing with the two of them walking out of the savage land but like if you're the punisher. Wouldn't you like ask the rest of them be like Oh. Hey I singer teleport Nada here here. Can you take my wife and kids and like put them back the rest you know. Y- except he's on a spiritual journey remember he is heard the good news of crap. I know that's that's the thing it's like. Oh wait. There's a god who doesn't care about us. Who actually is from. I'm Frank Castle's perspective they did there's a god who's a nihilist. Yes you know that's the idea and the idea is the effort Disney. Tell me let's see there's a lot of people love posting these nationalistic means. How would it be monetize that well. They were religion of nihilist that might work. Do we own any nihilistic. Religions is what it costs head was Coenen. We had them in the the eighties but then we didn't pay the fines. How much does it for thousand dollars coded and read the good news occur around the world so you have the net. Let's Talk Beck and call. I Never Justin said he fell asleep before the emperor mount showed up but yeah so definitely Disney wants to make religion that was based around crab in which all night. Let's worship Crown Crown. You grow are renting long over our but al so let's let's no my gosh but last booklet through immortal hog immortal hey. That's a little book yeah yeah. That was fun. synopsis Checking McGee has difficulties with the hawk. Rick Jones is actually you still pretty cool. Guy Things never work out the way you think oh so we have the flashback you now now mcghee Jackie with her dad there because the emergency hoke alert system which I guess is like a tornado warning in the Midwest for the southwest now Florida's worst Tornado warnings team into the mid West. I we largely ignored that and we knew about them. We would've danger they were but we also were like okay. It's a warning or is the watcher. Where are we exactly. Do we need to get into the basement yet. You know in most midwesterners knew when it was time okay so this is actually in for what it's worth this is this is a warning watch this one yeah so that is going to go to the basement. The only problem misses most homes in the south last weren't built with basements so that's your the problem here is that houses in the southwest don't necessarily have basements so they didn't have a place to go in the event of all it says this it says evacuate accurate your homes immediately what yeah exactly you have to evacuate which is the difficult aspect of the story but obviously that oak winning came too late because the hook was already there fairly hoax move faster than tornadoes and more unpredictable patterns but again if you already live in the South West. You know you have a health problem. Maybe you should have invested in a basement. That's onset. It should have had a hawk shelter in in your house because his books come out at least once a month once a month. Somebody is getting destroyed in the American in southwest so did you catch the catch you catch the shout out to the Bill bixby series in Oh the whole creature controlled by the creatures driven by Rage Lia the whole Spiel it just just that and they make the point that when she first started haughey was a child's range and then when they met the hulk he was eight he directed rage and this time it started outrage is calculated in her father died the day hold on his president presidential. Pardon could see how that was a big goal a few I want tell me what you want to know. Whether it's I'm most excited about. I probably knew the letters page but they actually have a letters page in the hall. I'm gonNA write me to Atlante you because I really I wanNA talk about a theory that he absorbs the personalities of people he's around and then he's been around. Heroes is why he's like dude. I don't WanNa be a jerk. All the time and I kind of feel like you know. Tatyana is Kinda when she was enabled by villains. Yes let's be villainous and then as soon as no bigger from that sounds fine. It's it's just a Oh from frigging Colorado. You know it's like yeah. She hated the jerks who picked on her in high school but aside from that. It's like you know I'll give me no. Let's be clear here kind of journalists. You know. She's kind of enabled by who she's around. She's around crusher and when crusher is around. Heroes crusher gets better so wanNA write that letter tomorrow morning. I will write the letter and we'll see if it gets public. Ask Ask they could print in my thing. We'll see if it gets you know because I'm far more interested in the arc of Cratia Crou- and by it is banner dude who seems honestly Kinda like a sociopath from spark finish. I WanNa smash things as a child. I'll do the bomb as Burnett now. I'm a hope now all smash thing some more and now that I'm GonNa pretend I'm intellectualize ing my smash. Humanity doesn't deserve to live swell smash. Thank you Kinda seem like a jerk all around but now you're just seemed like you're justifying. You're so I was I was all you know. At the end. There were nip. The hulk gets that stuff sprayed on his face and it's like stuck to his facing starts ripping it off and you could tell like off. I thought I'm like Oh tell me he's GonNa rip it off and like you can see like Joe fixit underneath it but just as well. Yo uh-huh 'cause that's remember when the Hulk Vector in the Peter David I`Ma Keith Ellison said No. I'm still the frigging home you you know like my powers. Don't come from 'cause the hoax streets. Does it come from his must now. Come from the fact that he's the frequent halts he's tied to the Hulk Force and yes. He can present that as being big and strong but you see his his cousin. Just all you know I wanted to meet all I wanted to be called and I'm wearing heels as I'm Paul which is like I put myself in more discomfort. Just we two inches taller because that's my mindset as frigging. She'll you know yeah yeah but there you go yeah. I mean I loved him more to haul and I'm gonNA write that lender. It's in the funding and it'd be wonderful yeah. I mean great book. Seven Adventures was gay as we talked about you know the have I told you about crown. champions was good. apparently blackheart is inspecting all of the champions rivalry like attack active but you know two point. Oh took over subroutine to try to kill cool now. I'm better now it. It's basically gives doing with her own hall so anyway. Yada Yada Yada it ends the big showdown between the good champions in the bad champion. Some of the bad champions of the new guys let you know we won't talk about that but then hey don't get worried too much final final issue you because I'm guessing they're ending this because it says concluded all the champions being with each other so they spoiled it in the book. What can I say you know what they're doing that Mr o. Final episode everyone's going to be cool but then maybe less salary boot it. Well Yeah Okay the book didn't that's why we go along one okay. Oh I'm sorry I'm supposed to the show okay. Let's show all right. What you're saying okay well. I tossed to you. I'd lose all right well. You can always get a hold of mean wing. PDP Jimoh DOT mccomb on twitter. I am at night wing. PCP But we don't promote this enough guys you can follow super connectivity on facebook at facebook dot com slash super connectivity podcast podcast in on twitter it's at Super Connect Pot Oh of course rightfully testimony mothers and Fathers Ed superconductivity blog at GM cabinet superconductivity blog. Oh were at that come into the towards here's the tweet things when I feel like at trillion that's. Ha R. E. He says he are her look for the to ease the quality things mindset to ease okay so oh kids play the music. Let's get out of here. Thank you for talking with us again next breath good night. He'll be happy Labor Day Holiday Inn hope. You have a good weekend people. He Fell Asleep fifteen minutes ago just just because he's talking. He Fell Asleep at eight minutes yeah. I'm I'm only this is complete non sequitur people. He's he's GonNa. He's GonNa Message me in the morning if you're like. How did we end it. I don't remember I don't remember anything after savage of what happens.

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TE Tiers 2019

NFL Talking Heads

24:35 min | 1 year ago

TE Tiers 2019

"Welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking Heads Fantasy football podcast show here a your hosts Jeff Carrier Seth Law. Hello everyone and welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking talking heads of fantasy football podcast show. I'm your host Jeff carrier. He is seth law. We are back for another great episode to talk tight end tears getting closer rounding out all our positional tears for everyone out there and seth it is time the training camp season has finally started. We're going to actually start seeing seeing some players on the field and you know soon enough. They'll be most likely some injuries impacting rankings and of course eighty ps but it's exciting to see people on the field in football almost here. Oh Yeah it's been it's been way too long and we are. We're back in it. It's one hundred degrees out today in New Hampshire and no better place to be during one hundred under degree day than inside in the air conditioned in the air conditioning talking fantasy football so let's let's get to it all right so before we get into tight end tears big breaking news on Tyreek Hill there will be no suspension from the N._F._l.. tyreek hill you know let's just skip the part on the inconsistency of the N._F._l.. And whether or not he should have been suspended or not. That's a different discussion. Let's get to whereabout uh fantasy football where does terry kill now slide into your rankings A._D._p.. Wise not ranking. Should I say where does he slide in eighty P wise on the draft board where we're my drafting him Yup also when we talk yesterday when the news broke and you ask me my first reaction was like third round. That's the first thing I said we talked about it and as before I even looked at any updated eighty ps and it looks like you know his A._D._p.. Is Bright in the third round three point four and I think that's pretty on target right now. I'm drafting him today. If the draft is today I would take him in the third round right around three point zero four. That's pretty spot on now if it's pretty quiet on the tyreek hill front from now until the being the season and we're here in late August and he's always you know he's on his best behavior hasn't got into trouble. There's no nothing else is breaking is no other evidence that emerges than I could see taking him in the the second round. Maybe the end of the second round middle the second round the bottom line is tyreek hill. If this off the field stuff never never immersion or was never an issue. He's a early second rounder like you can make a case for maybe taking him in the first round right I mean he he's that elite has that much upside. He's probably the number one fantasy wide receiver if we're just talking football and when he brings you know on the field so the drafts right now. I'm taking him in the third round but I'm giving you know I'm open to moving that up to to the second round <hes> if nothing else crazy happens now in August. I'm going to be a a bit more aggressive as we kind of our initial reactions kind of led me to to to believe now if you if you're type person will you go on and you're looking at the A._D._p.. And you see three point zero four all you need to do is look at the chart of at four point zero three. There's four point four and now he's at three point four. He went up a full round within a day well. The law of averages should tell us that he's not getting to three or four because people are drafting met three. Oh four people were drafting him above that spot and that's where his average opposition happens to be landing or he skyrocketed in a day so my guess is he's getting drafted right now in the middle of the second so if you've seen three point four <hes> and you're you're going off that you're never going to get him realistically. If you're looking at the second round of the fantasy football draft I mean first thing that comes to mind is he easily sides in front of Damian Williams in my eyes I mean why why am I taking Damian Williams over Tyreek Hill. You're not doing that so so he easily slides in front of that spot as worst case scenario and then in terms of just a range of outcomes or Dra- oppositions. I say he could go as high as above depending on how you like some of these players like I would take Juju over him but I would take tyreek over Odell Beckham so now we're talking on the fringe of the turn so my guess is he's. He's all the way that high to potentially downward Liam so one point twelve to two point zero. Seven is the range. I have a minute and probably closer to the top of that range. I mean mean if we didn't get in trouble for what we just all experience right if he didn't get in trouble then then he's not gonna get suspended during the season even if he did something else he would need some kind of the Cam. I'd be more worried about the Kansas City the chiefs potentially suspending him if something else comes up and they face a big you know a p._r.. Hit and there's backlash there's pressure put on the chiefs. Maybe the chief suspend him. You know I don't know or maybe this this gets. Maybe something else happens in this gets to be to the the point where there's so much heat on tyreek Hill that there's a huge distraction and he wasn't perform or he who knows. I mean like if you're if you're going to take him in the early second round or some of these players wanted to take over Julio. I mean like either there. You're hedging against all that other stuff. You're not now. I'm hedging against all that other stuff by taking him in the third round if you're not doing that if you're taking him over Odell Beckham then what you're saying is I'm not worried about any of that other stuff at all so at that point wanted to take him in the first round. Down I think he's a first round player like you could take you could take him over Julio. You can take him definitely over Le Vian Bell you could potentially take him over Michael Thomas. I mean if he if we're just talking about tyreek hill the fantasy football wide receiver. He's probably W top eight or nine pick yeah I mean I suppose I mean you definitely have a point. I'm most I am more on the side of. I'm not really paying attention to anything else happening because also the Kansas City chiefs allowed him back into the facilities weeks before this announcement so it seems like everything's kind of getting brush underneath the rug now that we have a solid month until we actually have our draft. I think that we'll get everything we need to know in terms of quote unquote P._R.. It would take something drastic like a ray rice kareem hunt video to come out and I think we've already kind of heard you know in audio the worst that was released so I I suppose you always have that risk with someone with Terry kills background but I'm going for more upside there but anyways good conversation going to be a very interesting player over the next few weeks I think without a shadow of a doubt he's going to be creeping up at least a solid round if not more to your point because of how he did finish last year he does deserve to be potentially in the conversation of the first wide receiver off the board and the first wide receiver off the board is is typically deandre Hopkins at around six so all right so let's jump into it tight ends ooh tough position to picks the sexiest position Asian all fantasy so this should be a little bit shorter because it's just not as much obviously depth here to talk about. We have a couple of the the regulars right at the top that we're familiar with this. is how the topless. Let's just top ten. I'M GONNA say with a top ten finished out last year and you can start off with your tier. One tight ends just in order from one to ten was Travis Kelsey kittle Erz Hebron Cook Burton Burton Austin Hooper the joke who Rudolph O._J.. Howard and some of these are obviously you know ranking the difference between ranking thirteen and six for example was like a total title of less than it was ten points so less than one point a week so there really aren't ten good tight ends here if you're an attend team league in every team has one tight end l.? Every semester star one tight end is going to be at least two or three the teams that aren tight end stream mode starting we one okay so tier one for you for tight ends tier one from eases Travis Calcium jacquards. I think clearly Travis Kelsey is a a little bit ahead of jacquards but I like them. Both you can't go wrong with either one. I would put them in the same here on. I think it's pretty pretty easy pretty straightforward. Travis Chelsea's Akers Tier One yep now of course we're GONNA follow up all of our tears with breaking down where they're going A._D._p.. Wise so that's going to be a different discussion but I did want to clarify that just because we're we're saying Zakar. It's the same tears Kelsey <hes> in terms of player and quality and all that stuff. I am a little hesitant on where's Akers A._D._p.. Is You know and Kittles for that matter but we're going to get to that in different say yeah. We're look at it like it is if A._D._p.. Doesn't matter value doesn't matter just who who who do you have all things are equal if you can get him in the same spot. Who would you rather have <hes>? I think it's clearly travis Kelsey Anzac urged you agree. Yep completely agree on that because here's here's the key. I think a lot of people are going to say you know. Why are you not have George Kill Kill in that <hes> in that that tier because his A._p.? Is Three Point Nine Zakharov three point zero six. They're close <hes> George kill had more receiving yards last year. He's he's a little younger in my thing is and I have we'll kind of transition to the second tier George Kill <hes> by himself into your to the reason for that is it's just a little bit more uncertainty with George Kitto. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be healthy. We'll see Jimmy. Garoppolo can stay healthy. That offense is on the come up. Endorsed kills obviously going to be a big part of that. He was a big part of their offense last year on a really really bad team so I think George kiddle has you could argue. He has a little more upside Zacher especially considering. I don't think anybody expects Akers to have one hundred sixteen catches again but I just like the situation as accurate and the it's more stable. I think George kittle could potentially be a little bit more volatile but I think he's clearly in the second tier by himself. If you miss out on Jacquards and Travis Kelsey and you end up with George Kill you have one of the three best tight ends and fantasy football and like we saw last year he's going to be a stud so George Kettle into your to all by himself and after that I think there's a pretty big drop off yeah and a lot can be said about the difference between target chair percentage when Jimmy Garoppolo is there and when he he wasn't is actually pretty similar twenty three percent the first three weeks with Jimmy Garoppolo twenty six percent with the rest of the quarter quarterbacks that they had for their meeting of the season of forty niners so you know there should be questioned in terms of if Jimmy Garoppolo's gotta feed kibble but I think the bigger question is can he hold onto his twenty three percents with the influx of new receivers and kind of weapons so. I think he might get a knock there but I think like you said it's close. He's in his own tier so I agree with that as well lily a little bit more uncertainty with if he can keep hold of that target share percentage but I look at his touchdown only five touchdowns last year so even if his target share percents drops off a little bit and even though we see that receptions eight eight receptions go down a little bit because of it he could easily put an eight nine touchdowns you know in that and so I think back a balance out but yeah he's he's in Tier Two tier three we big drop off and I think this is the spot where and this is probably different conversation Mt Tear Tear tweezers empty three-tiered pretty empty. I think at this point for me I would almost be looking to to wait like that's how crazy does this year with the it's really top heavy of the three big tie downs and after that and actually know what I'll make one one caveat too that is I really like O._J.. Howard and I think the problem with O._J.? Howard our is his A._D._p.? Is is five point zero seven so everything we love. Boji Howard is baked in already baked into his eighty pig which A._d._p.'s not top what we're talking about today so different conversation for different show but <hes> my tier three is is is O._J.. Howard Eric Hebron and Hunter Henry and Hunter Henry would be at the bottom of that here? I you know I debate even leaving him out of this third tier. I just decided I'm leaving Hunter Henry. He doesn't deserve to being here O._J.. Howard Air Lebron I I love O._J.? Howard for a lot of the same reasons that I love Chris Godwin we've we've already talked about Kris Golvin a lot? I know he's a trendy player. I I love of O._J.. Howard for so often the Bruce Arians thing which I wanNA talk about everybody mentioned the Bruce Arians the offense better but this is O._J.? Howard third year in the league this is where tight ends you know usually make the step forward to being an actual factor after now health is is always an issue with O._J.? Howard hasn't played a full season yet but only played eight games last year fourteen the previous year in his rookie are but we're already seen the touchdown said five or more touchdowns each of his first two seasons seasons four hundred more receiving yards each of his first two seasons and we don't usually tight ends make an impact at all? It's even worse than than it is a receivers when they come into the N._F._l.. Early on so I I like his talent his size his athletic ability loved the offense and no more Adam Humphries no more to Sean Jackson. I think it's GonNa be a big year throwing the ball for Tampa Bay. They lead the N._F._l.. Last year and pass attempts. They're gonNA throw the ball a ton so I like O._J.. Howard I I don't love his A._D._p.? But again we're doing tears and I think that he is clearly hands down. The fourth best tight end big drop off from George Killed O._J.. Howard but I think O._J.? Howard presents a good balance at this point of he's going me fairly safe relatives the tight ends that are in this grouping and he has the most upside at anybody else from this point on yet? I think the one that in terms of in this here the disagree with his Eric Hebron on I just don't like how they brought in Devin funchess who I feel like is fairly similar player to Eric Hebron even more weapons of Paris Campbell etc.. Maybe a healthy Marlin Mac. I just the more of a I don't like Hebron repeating his numbers and I I would probably throw Evan Ingram in the same tears how so so you didn't like you don't like Kevin Ingram obviously as much as Howard or even Abra no no no ear Iran. I see I agree with you on a lot of points about Abraham Hebron's a great example of for A._D._p.. I I don't love him and he probably won't be on a lot of my teams because six point twelve is too pricey for Hebron at the same point though we're just ranking these tight ends on you know how they are as fantasy players without A._D._p.'s entering into the equation argue bronze number four I mean I think you expect his touchdowns to come down a little bit because of what you mentioned with with the addition of funchess and maybe Peres Campbell Marla Mac and how the but bottom line indies going to have a really good offense and Andrew Lock is very efficient red zone. They're going to be a lot of touchdowns up for grabs. Eric Brown had thirteen touchdowns. I think he can still get ten so you were. We're talking about a a starting tight end with Andrew Lock on the Indianapolis Colts. Getting potentially ten touchdowns get to be in the seven to eight hundred receiving yards sixty <unk> distinct those are solid safe numbers to expect from Eric Hebron even if he comes down down a little bit on his production from last year and that's why I'm taking him over Evan Ingram you know I in terms of tears I like him more than Evan Ingraham a loved more than like him more than Hunter Henry and so on okay and so that wraps up tier three are- with O._J.. Howard and Eric Hebron heading into tier four is this where we have Evan Ingram and Hunter Henry and anyone else or how's your tearful look just just those is too? I I after that where you know. I don't know what we're GONNA do frontiers. It's like everybody else at that point. It's like I'm waiting. I might wait till to grab P._J.. Hopkinson if you round later I have Hunter Henry and Evan Ingram to pure wide receiver <hes> tight end threats if you will I I just I don't love we'll start with Hunter Henry. I mean first of all. He's really had a hard time staying unhealthy. He missed all of last season right and I just we haven't really seen we've seen stuff from Hunter Henry in spurts right and he's very his touchdown numbers. Were really high as rookie or they touchdowns if he. Gets the snaps he is going to be hit. His upside is great if he can get the volume being at the snaps if he can get the targets we just haven't seen it to this point in San Diego or Los Angeles if you will so I like him more than ever ingram because I like his upside a little bit more than Evan Ingram. I like the chargers offense better than the giants offense obviously but I think these two are very I think that the the variances greater with these two especially Hunter Henry I think he's got more boom bust potential. We've seen him have weeks where he has two touchdowns. I've seen him have weeks where he basically puts up zero bomb yeah. Sometimes I just don't understand these eighty ps I mean are people literally only swinging for the fences and just like just completely content with just whipping. I mean Hunter Henry missed all twenty eighteen right didn't do it is intend to anything the previous years he was a nice player but not a great player because Philip rivers like some of the elite quarterbacks passes the ball around so much so he was a nice player he wasn't Kelsey or Gronk any of his first two seasons so he misses an entire year and somehow is so getting drafted early six six round right now in team league I just I don't understand the A._D._p.. Now in terms of caliber player is he above just about everyone else as he should be in this last here that you have I agree because this upside is higher but that doesn't mean he should be going into six round again other discussion for different day his his pedigree and that team he's got some upside there for sure and he'll be heading into his. I don't know I guess technically is fourth year or you know his third playing ear so yeah yeah I think this rounds out my tears because hundred Henry and everything or to me while I don't love of either one of them. I think you can look at each of them and say okay. I have my starting tight end granted. Oh probably be still be my we the weakness on my team. It might my worse starter but I have a starting caliber tight end that I'm at least gonNA start every single week because they have upside after that. It's it's pretty much. You're streaming tight ends. You're drafting multiple tight ends in you know playing it by committee so I. I don't know what you WANNA do for the next exteriors I mean it will. I is there anybody else that I left out that you would include in this year. I would probably include in that tier. I wouldn't take them before. I don't know I wouldn't necessarily put him his own tear. This lump them in as the quote tear before the streaming tears. We'll call it is probably jared cook because he had pretty good year last year and with New Orleans I feel like you'll fit that category that you just Kinda described and that is I've got a starter on most most weeks. Not every week is going to be great but a most weeks assuming health you know I can just plug him in there and I think you'll have a decent day so I think I'd throw jared cook in that in there and in that here with my problem Joel Island Promise Jerry Cook is the Saints Really Have Not used tight ends since they had Jimmy Graham and is that a product of them not really having in good tight end or is that just they got a lot of rushing touchdowns with Alvin Kamara. Even though there's no Mark Ingram here you have Michael Thomas who's an absolute beast and they spread the ball around so much I just I think but at this point the draft yeah I I think we look at him as a starter I I think he's kind of lumped in. I look like Jared Cook. David Joko potentially awesome hooper in this range and T._J.. Hopkinson those would be my you know. My grouping of players is that that might follow the next year but I'm not going out on my way to grab any of those players I would. I would consider them with the exception. Maybe Teacher Hawkins and I don't know if you're GONNA start him week one but I think at least second half the season you should be in a position to maybe you know feel like you can start him. Yeah I agree that's why I was like he's kind of behind the other two but kind of fits a category that might deserve its own tears so maybe maybe cook no joke who Hopkinson Hooper might have their own semi. I tear in front of the streamers the but to your point you're definitely not going out of your way for any of these people. No I think we always see the drop off and tight ends pretty quickly every year where you're like okay. I'm not really going on my way. We get the next best tight end because he's not doesn't why doesn't excite me. I'm just GonNa wait until the very end similar to what people do with quarterbacks in one quarterback leagues and I think this year that just starts even earlier and maybe it's partly is not having Gronk you're you you take gronk out a no players Jimmy Grammar no longer a factor Jordan Reed is now. We're completely writing him off. So the tight end position shallower Kyle Rudolph is another one who's lower who's kinda fallen own off the face of the Earth for fantasy and I think after after Kelsey urged kittle in maybe Howard you know I could maybe talk myself into take him in the sixth or seventh round but the fifth round is too early after that. I'm just like you know we're overpaying for. Some of these mediocre tight ends like Evan Ingram Hundred Henry Eric Hebron even jared cook in the seventh round jerk cooking the seventh rounds crazy. That's crazy town right crazy town. I mean again. I said the difference between six and thirteen it was like what ten points for the entire year and I guarantee at least fifty seventy five percent of those tight ends were just streamers basically for the most part so to your point is that that's going to wrap up our tight hide ends. We're going to be back four hour quarterbacks. Here's and we're going deep real deep south and I are big to Q._B.. Fans so <hes> we're going to be doing all thirty Q._B.'s.

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Graves Disease: George & Barbara Bus

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Graves Disease: George & Barbara Bus

"On July thirteenth nineteen eighty five President Ronald Reagan underwent surgery for colon cancer before before he went under anesthesia he prepared a letter to Congress passing his powers and duties onto the vice president George H W Bush in the event that he didn't recover if a crisis occurred while he was unconscious or worse if complications arose and he didn't wake makeup the nation would be left rudderless in a state of constitutional crisis it had happened before in one thousand nine hundred nineteen woodrow. Wilson suffered a massive stroke and the confused Bedridden President was completely hidden away for over six months while his wife signed paperwork for him. No one wanted to see the same disaster play out again so for eight hours from eleven twenty eight. Am To seven twenty two PM am George Bush served as the acting president and prepared himself for the possibility that the role would become permanent. Luckily Regan pulled through a little over three years later. Bush was elected to the presidency in his own right shortly after his inauguration when he called his cabinet together to address what would happen if he liked. Reagan had a serious health scare the fate of the nation bearing bearing down on his shoulders. He looked into the eyes of his chosen successor. Vice President Dan Quayle less than than a year before forty two year old James Danforth quayle had been relatively unknown junior senator from Indiana just days after announcing announcing quayle as his running mate. Bush went home and wrote in his diary. I blew it from day. One quayle was widely ridiculed. You will does inexperienced in competent and Awkward by Democrats and Republicans alike now that the election one Bush and the nation had to grapple with the consequences of that choice. If the president fell ill wood quail up to the task or would one medical scare leave America's future hanging in the balance the American public would have to face that that question sooner than they thought when our bodies fail we trust doctors to diagnose the problem but medicine isn't always an exact science. Sometimes it's a guessing game with with life or death stakes. This is medical mysteries apar- cast original. I'm molly and I'm Richard. Every Tuesday will look at the strangest strangest real life medical cases in history and the experts who raced against the clock to solve them. You can find episodes of medical mysteries and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream medical mysteries for free on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type medical mysteries in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Love let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. This is our first and only only episode on former President George H W Bush and his wife Barbara who both came down with mysterious health issues during his first term in office office in early nineteen eighty nine. Barbara began rapidly losing weight and having problems with her eyesight two years later George suffered sudden heart complications doctors suspected that the two very different sets of symptoms or actually caused by the same disease January Twentieth Nineteen eighty-nine wasn't unusually warm winters day in Washington. DC A record breaking three hundred thousand people had gathered in front of the flag draped capital to watch the swearing in of the nation's forty first president sixty four year old George Herbert Walker Bush walked onstage to roaring applause for the past eight eight years he'd been serving as vice president and in just a few moments he'd step up to become president himself despite his age. Bush was was a picture of health and vitality he played tennis baseball soccer and was known to go jogging with reporters as Supreme Court justice. William Rehnquist administered the oath of office Georgia's sixty three year old wife. Barbara stood beside him wearing a deep blue coat that looked striking against her bright white hair. She held two bibles under her husband's hand. One was the family's Bible and one was the same book used by George George Washington when he had been sworn in two hundred years earlier. It was impossible to notice from the crowd but up close us. Barbara's eyes were puffy and watery. It wasn't the emotions of the day that brought her to tears. Her eyes had been acting up for the past week. She figured it was a makeup allergy. Once she got back to the White House and washed off her Mascara. Maybe it would all clear up but the next morning warning when Barbara woke up after her first night in the presidential suite her eyes weren't doing any better she thought she might just be tired after all she endured woken up at the crack of dawn that morning and by. Adm they were greeting tour groups. The couple apple spent all morning hosting private tours for any visitors who happened to stop by the White House as George told the crowd this is the People's House and and it just seemed appropriate dumb his first day that we welcome as many as we can in the afternoon and evening the new president and first lady made the rounds sounds stopping by thirteen different inaugural balls. They didn't get back until nearly one a. m. when Barbara went to bed her eyes. This were even each year in more swollen than they've been in the morning once again. She figured it was from the long hours wearing eye makeup. That was all thought she gave it. They were enough things to worry about already in late. February the bushes a long trip to Japan and Korea to meet with State Eight leaders. Maybe it was jet lag or something in the air but Barbara's eyes were more irritated than ever throughout the entire trip shortly after after they got back to the states in early March Barbara held a luncheon at the White House on March seventh outlining the Barbara Bush Foundation for Family Literacy Chrissy. If they looked closely the attendees might have noticed that Barbara's eyes were still red and puffy instead head. They fixated on something else. She'd lost considerable weight since the inauguration. Barbara wasn't trying to lose weight but she certainly certainly wasn't going to complain. She hushed the whispers about her supposed diet chalking it up to staying active in the long days of rushing around the capital without without any time to stop for a snack bud over the next few weeks who weight kept dropping even as she she tried to cut back on overwork by mid-march she'd lost eighteen pounds and all a considerable percentage of her body weight and there was awesome more worrying problem for irritated eyes. Were steadily getting worse. There were no longer just itchy watery. There were so swollen they seem to bolt out of her face on top of that. She was experiencing double or even triple vision. The White House physician Doctor Burton Burton Lee insisted she head to the hospital for some tests. After months of ignoring the Problem Barbara agreed on March Twentieth Twentieth Nineteen eighty-nine Barbara was driven to Walter Reed Hospital where the doctors were easily able to link her seemingly unrelated symptoms. The most obvious starting point was the weight loss while Barbara was correct that stress can often lead to unintentional weight loss. Another common causes is is hyperthyroidism. The thyroid gland located in the front of the neck releases hormones that control metabolism and heart rate when thyroid releases too much of those hormones the heartbeats irregularly body temperature rises and carbohydrate and fat stores are burned too quickly causing rapid weight loss changes in appetite and other symptoms. There are several different conditions that can cause hyperthyroidism viruses that temporarily inflame the thyroid benign tumors in or near the thyroid gland and even tumors in the ovaries or testes which can affect hormone levels but Barbara's eye problems pointed towards the most common cause grave's disease named for the doctor who first described it in eighteen thirty five Robert James Graves. The disease is an autoimmune disorder meaning it causes the body's immune system to malfunction normally the immune system produces antibodies to fight off bacteria and viruses in grave's leaves disease. The body inexplicably sends antibodies to attack the thyroid gland instead according to Bruce D Weintrob a thyroid specialist specialist at the National Institutes of health when the antibodies latch onto the thyroid cells it fools thyroid into thinking it's receiving leaving a normal stimulation signaling that more hormone is needed so it releases more flooding the bloodstream with an excessive excessive amount of thyroid hormones and speeding up all of the bodies processes researchers still are unsure what causes these rogue antibodies the bodies to target the thyroid and Greaves Disease One theory is that a certain bacteria or retrovirus could trick the immune system into believing being the thyroid gland was the source of the infection. There also seems to be a genetic component as patients with graves quite often have a family history of autoimmune disorders. According to the National Institutes of health. It may be linked to the H. L. A. Gene Complex rex which helps the immune system distinguish between its own bodies proteins and invading viruses. It's hard to say whether Barbara had these these genetic variations but her son Marvin had previously been diagnosed with regional enteritis also an autoimmune disease this pointed to a possible predisposition within the family. Certain factors seem to trigger the onset of grave's disease in people who are cinetic. Lee At risk including infections certain medications and as Barbara Bush correctly guessed stress a nineteen nineteen ninety two survey by the University of London found that compared to the control group patients with graves disease reported significantly more negative negative life events in the year leading up to the diagnosis becoming the first lady of the United States is hardly a negative life event but the workload and pressure pressure that came along with the position might have triggered the onset of graves in Barbara's gave that is if graves disease was truly her diagnosis. Her symptoms certainly suggested it was weight. Loss alone isn't enough to definitively point to a thyroid problem but barbara was was also displaying another telltale symptom of graves eye swelling for reasons that aren't well understood the antibodies created by the disease. Z's cause fat deposits swell up in the eye muscles and connecting tissues the increased pressure behind the eyes causes them to push outward. God creating a bug eyed appearance in often causing vision problems. This was what sealed the deal for Barbara. Bush doctors all signs as pointed to grave's disease. They just had to run some tests to confirm it. A simple blood test can show whether the amount of thyroid hormones hormones in the bloodstream is elevated however since many different conditions can cause hyperthyroidism another test is needed to determine determine whether graves is the root of the problem and this one is a little more interesting the thyroid uses dine to produces lucid hormones by measuring the amount of iodine taken up by the thyroid doctors can determine whether Greece disease is triggering the gland to work overtime or whether another problem is throwing the hormones out of whack and how do you measure ivine uptake by having the patient drink a small amount of radioactive iodine day or two afterward especial imaging camera can be used to visualize how much of the iodine was absorbed by the thyroid not too long after arriving at Walter Reed Hospital Barbara's Siptah Cup of the radioactive solution then she was was on her way back to the White House. After months of stalling she would finally have her prognosis in a matter of days. Her doctors were certainly hoping it was greaves since despite its ominous name. The disease is completely treatable but there was a chance her problem was something more threatening like a thyroid tumor the next few days past slowly but when Barbara finally came back for the imaging tests the results were quickly confirmed for thyroid hormone levels were higher than usual for I assign uptake was high as well it. It was grave's disease. This was a relief. Her doctors reassured her that with proper treatment she could be back to normal. I'm all in no time. She wouldn't even need surgery or hospital. Stay Barbara began her treatment on March twenty fourth just four days after she went in for her first examination. As the first step she was given a drug called machine is all which blocks the thyroid from producing hormones within four days her is swelling went down and her vision was back to normal but mathon is all only temporarily really affects the thyroid once you stop taking it. The grave symptoms will come back once. Barbara's hormone levels were under control. It was time mm for a more permanent treatment that is swallowing a dose of radioactive iodine to completely destroy the thyroid extreme same as it sounds. This is actually fairly safe. I dine is mainly absorbed by the thyroid so the radiation only affects that gland while leaving the rest Esta the body's cells intact once the thyroid has completely stopped functioning a daily hormone pill is prescribed to administer the proper level of thyroid hormones. These pills will have to be taken every day for the rest of the patient's life. This essentially replaces one problem with another but it's much easier to add more hormones than to take them away so this is considered the simplest and most reliable treatment treatment once the body's hormone levels are stable a regular daily pill is all it takes to keep the condition under control on April twelfth. Barbara went back to Walter Reed Hospital and drank another cup of radioactive iodine. Her doctors would monitor her hormone levels through regular blood tests over the next two or three weeks wants her thyroid had stopped functioning. She began her hormone replacement pills. Everything was on its way back to normal since the condition was easily treatable. The Bushes chose to go public blick with the news right away. Barbara didn't intend to be a national spokeswoman for grave's disease but she knew that being open and upfront would stop the rumor or milk from churning as it turned out she miscalculated as soon as the news broke in late March of nineteen eighty nine Barbara Bush his house struggle was front page news papers across the country. Thanks to journalists and experts explaining the first lady's condition the relatively the unknown graves disease entered the public consciousness and as Barbara recovered it proved that the disease which according to the National Institutes of have health effects one in two hundred people was nothing to be afraid of. She stopped losing weight. Her eyes went back to normal and after a few months of close monitoring by doctors her hormone levels were completely stable. One medical mystery had been solved quickly and hand painlessly but it was still only a few months into George Bush's time in office. 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Whether you're a rabid fan or a passive passive observer their stories carry significance for us all listen and subscribe to sports criminals for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts tests or visit podcast dot com slash sports criminals to listen now now back to the story after First Lady Barbara Bush is recovery from graves disease in the spring of Nineteen eighty-nine life in the White House returned to normal or as normal as it could be the US invaded Panama the Berlin Wall fell the Gulf War began and ended Barbara's. It is never came back but another medical issue was on the horizon on Saturday may fourth nineteen ninety-one President George H W Bush was taking jog through the wooded mountain trails of Camp David. The sixty six year old was enjoying the exercise. He didn't see why growing old had to slow him down. It was a beautiful afternoon and the fresh air and quiet trail with just what he needed. There was so much on his mind. Nafta the collapsing Soviet Union the economic recession he just recently withdrawn. US troops from the Persian Gulf is leaving Saddam Hussein in control of Iraq. He could only hope that was the right decision. Suddenly a pain gripped gripped Georgia's chest. His heart was pounding he could barely breathe he slow to a walk shrugged off the secret service agents trailing ailing behind him and kept going it was just a little shortness of breath nothing too unusual but even as he cooled down he couldn't get his wing. I'm back. This wasn't a regular case of pushing himself too hard. Something felt seriously off when he made it back. He stopped by the camp's Infirmary Eucalyptus cabin the physician on duty. Dr Michael Nash immediately set up an Ekg to take a look at his heartbeat. It appeared the upper and lower chambers were pumping blood at different rates causing an irregular heartbeat known as atrial fibrillation relation. This is a symptom not a diagnosis in and of itself. Atrial fibrillation can be a sign of a heart attack but it can also be caused caused by more benign conditions like high blood pressure too much caffeine or physical stress like jogging too hard. George Bush opted not ought to panic but when his heartbeat hadn't gone back to normal after a while Dr Nash started to worry especially in someone Georgia's age fibrillation can be a sign of underlying heart disease it took some help from the swarm of staffers and secret service agents who had gathered in the medical cabin let eventually Dr Nash convinced the President to go to the hospital a little over an our after his symptoms began. Bush boarded a helicopter to Bethesda Naval Hospital around five forty PM he took his briefcase with him and worked it throughout the twenty minute flight ignoring the IV and heart monitor that had been strapped onto him. Barbara was right there with him and she wasn't taking et quite so lightly as she watched him work a mess of tubes feeding into his veins thought ran through her head. Don't you dare the guy. I'll never forgive you. They landed at Bethesda at about six. PM and the bushes were led to the presidential suite a palatial relational non room unit that takes up an entire floor of the hospital for the next hour George was poked and prodded by doctors it was clear or he wasn't having a heart attack. The initial tests ruled out the possibility of heart disease that was good news but if it wasn't a problem with his heart art what was it. The doctors pressed further. George said he'd been feeling unusually tired for the past two weeks. Of Of course he'd spent the past two weeks dealing with accusations that his chief of staff was using taxpayer funded air force planes as his own private jets that would via headache for anyone. There's not much evidence that stress and fatigue can directly cause atrial fibrillation on their own but some underlying through line conditions can be exacerbated by stress but according to Bush's heart specialist Dr p Jacob Varghese. We have to ask how we can remove precipitating factors but it's hard to remove stress from being the President Bush also reported that he'd lost nine pounds things in the past two months not an alarming loss but it did strike him as unusual since he had a naturally slow metabolism and always had a hard time losing weight this could easily be caused by the stress but just to be sure they took a blood sample to test for thyroid. Reut problems by seven PM Adele Usu- of staffers had swarmed the hospital suite preparing for the inevitable news conference the press had already caught wind of the hospital visit and George was starting to regret ever complaining about his heart in the first place. It was a lot of hubbub for for what was probably a minor problem when press secretary Marlin fitzwater arrived Bush called out to him Marlin see if you can't get me a two week vacation out of this George continued cracking jokes about the situation until the doctor came back he had sobering news even then when it's not caused by a dangerous underlying disorder atrial fibrillation brings an increased risk of blood clots. If a clot travels is to the brain and blocks a blood vessel it can cause a stroke in fact according to the national blood clot alliance atrial fibrillation patients are five times more likely to have a stroke and twice as likely to die from it. The cause of Bush's fibrillation still hadn't been determined government but it was imperative that they get his heart beating normally as soon as possible for that they turned to drugs to Jackson and pro keenum. I'd do Jackson inhibits. The electrical signals sent between the heart's chambers leading to a slower heartbeat pro. Qena Meyde blocks walks another set of signals to restore a regular rhythm to the heart taken together the pills would hopefully keep Bush's heart beating normally while doctors searched for the root of the issue. George and Barbara settled in for the night sharing a simple hospital meal. I love steak and Salad. They would monitor the president's condition overnight and reassess in the morning. Meanwhile the press team returned to the white eight house to greet the flocks of anxious reporters press secretary fitzwater flashed a thumbs up to the crowd signaling. The president was okay. He reassured them that Bush was walking around and making jokes and he could be back jogging in a matter of days. That was optimistic the next day. Bush's team of doctors were disappointed to see he wasn't responding to the medication. His heart was still fibrillation. If things didn't turn around the next morning they would have to turn to the backup plan electrical cardioversion that is using an electrical electrical shock to reset his heart in jolted back into a normal rhythm. This is done by placing paddles on the chest similar to the defibrillator fibrillation use to restart patient's hearts in the emergency room. It's relatively safe and more than ninety percent effective but what if it turned out the fibrillation was being caused by a blood clot in the heart dislodging that Claude could cause it to travel up to the brain and end result in a stroke. There was currently no sign that Bush had a blood clot but even so there was one other problem with the procedure it required going under anesthesia that return Bush's advisors to the difficult the issue of James Danforth Quayle Bush had been clear from the beginning of his term that if anything were to incapacitate him even temporary anesthesia he would sign over power to his young inexperienced vice president but at the time it had been a distant contingency plan now it was an urgent reality during his brief time in the spotlight quayle had become an international laughing stock for his frequent gaffes and incomprehensible soundbites on one memorable occasion. He misstated that the Holocaust had occurred occurred in America then followed it out by explaining quote. I didn't live in this century. Nevertheless quayle later assured the public that we are ready for any unforseen event that may or may not occur unless there were major complications. Bush would only only be in the operating room for a matter of hours. Surely even Dan Quayle couldn't run the country into the ground in that short of time but if anything everything went wrong America might have to grapple with a quail presidency just two days earlier as CNN poll had found that only nineteen percent of respondents would vote for quail for president as soon as the press got wind of Bush's possible shock treatment the nation flew into a frenzy op ED after op-ed question quayle's thin record and bumbling persona and the concerns were in partisan artisan. The New York Times reported that on Capitol Hill Republican lawmakers were murmuring their fears quietly because quote. If George Bush finds out we set anything will never eat lunch in this town again. Luckily by late afternoon doctors noticed the slight change in Bush's. EKG. His heartbeat was a little less out of SYNC. It looked like he was finally responding to the pro Qena Meyde. They monitored him closely for the next few hours waiting for more improvement but it never came. They gave him another dose. Oh Supra keenum I'd and kept waiting. If there was no more improvement overnight they'd have to go ahead with shock treatment in the morning. Once once he was settled in Barbara went home for the night she wanted to reassure the family and the world that was nothing serious and sticking by her husband's NHS bedside twenty four seven was not the way to send that message but justice soon as she got back to the White House. There was a call from the hospital. Georgia orch heart was back to normal according to Bush's chief physician Doctor Burton Lee. At about ten twenty five pm his his heart suddenly converted to normal sinus rhythm throughout the night he kept receiving regular doses of pro. Qena Meyde and his heart kept beating beating regularly then as his full team of physicians were on their way to the hospital for a five thirty. AM meeting the fibrillation returned learned all that progress was suddenly lost wants to doctors assembled. They spent a full hour talking over their options. uh-huh electrical shock treatment would almost definitely reset his heart but it did come along with risks both for Bush and for the American republic public since Bush didn't have any symptoms outside of his irregular heartbeat. It didn't seem urgent enough to take that risk. He had been responding to medication overnight so the team unanimously decided to keep him on the two drugs. It was taking and see what happened. They'd have the final final blood test results back the next day and maybe they be given a more conclusive answer. It was the morning of May Sixth Amande and Bush was anxious to get back to work. Luckily the White House medical unit was well equipped and there was no reason why they couldn't roll a Cardiac Act Monitor into the Oval Office with his doctors blessing. He was taken home hooked up to another. Ekg and immediately back on the job his first priority once he returned to the White House was to defend his much abused second-in-command Dan Quayle at nine thirty. Am them he told reporters he has. My full support always has and he's doing a first-class job. He must have soothe his own fears as well because within fifteen minutes his heartbeat once again went back to normal and it stayed normal throughout his packed schedule of meetings the former Soviet foreign foreign minister than the president of Cameroon and then the envoy for a humanitarian trip to Ethiopia clearly stress wasn't the trigger for the fibrillation relation his heart remained normal all day and night and into the next morning then on Tuesday the seventh so blood test results. Let's came in George Bush was suffering from a hyperactive thyroid. The most likely cause grave's disease coming up. We'll examine the mysterious reasons. George and Barbara both could have developed the same auto immune disease within the span of two years now back to the story early in the morning of May Eighth Nineteen ninety-one sixty-six-year-old President George H W Bush took a helicopter back to Bethesda Naval Hospital for a final round of tests after four days. His doctors had finally finally zeroed in on the cause of his atrial fibrillation. His thyroid was overactive. Since the thyroid controls all aspects of the body's metabolism including the heart rate too much thyroid hormone in the bloodstream can cause a rapid and irregular heartbeat it would also explain Blaine Bush's sudden fatigue and weight loss. The cause of the hyperthyroidism still needed to be determined cell. When Bush arrived at the hospital little he was taken to the nuclear medicine lab for a dose of radioactive iodine they would test thyroid iodine absorption the same as they did list Barbara two years earlier the next day Georgia's thyroid scanned with an imaging machine and as expected the iodine uptake. Take was unusually high thirty. Five percent had been absorbed compared to the normal eight to thirty percent. There was no evidence of an enlarged thyroid. The tumor which left one possible diagnosis grave's disease gray's hadn't seemed to be the most likely contender since women are seven to eight times more likely to develop the condition than men in addition. George wasn't showing many any of the common symptoms like the eye irritation that had affected Barbara but in patients over sixty the symptoms often appear differently in many many cases. Only one organ is affected in this case the heart from here. George's treatment would proceed much in the same way as his wife's chiefs right away he was given a strong cup of radioactive iodine which she sipped through a straw while telling reporters that he felt perfect over the next few weeks while they waited for the iodine to destroy his thyroid he'd keep taking the Jackson and pro. Qena Meyde to keep his heartbeat under control along with than anticoagulant to prevent blood clots after the radioactive iodine treatment was finished. He'd be given daily pill to bring his thyroid hormones back back to the proper level. The best news was that Bush could immediately go back to work as normal doctor Burton. Lee advised the White House staff to you. Give the man a break in cases. Intense schedule was putting his body under stress although he conceded that every time we try to give him a break. He tries to an things into his schedule. Another crisis averted for the Bush family and for America but there was one lingering in question why did George and Barbara both develop the same non contagious disease in the span of two years one of Georgia's thyroid specialists at the Mayo Clinic Dr Column a Gorman told The New York Times. I am as surprised as you are are while one and two hundred people will develop graves disease within their lifetime. The odds are extremely low. The two spouses will develop it while they're married especially within so short a time span the only explanation anyone could give was freak coincidence. It's thyroid specialist Gilbert. H Daniels who consulted on Georgia's case mentioned that left handed people like George are more likely to develop auto immune disorders so are people whose hair turns white prematurely as Barbara's did the reason for this connection still isn't totally understood and correlation does not mean causation but if both George and Barbara were already more at risk. It's a little less bizarre czar that they both developed autoimmune disease around the same time still not everyone was willing to explain it away as coincidence. Indi- although nothing has been proven it's been suspected the grays disease is triggered by some sort of infection like a bacteria or retrovirus. Georgian Barbara's case was similar to a notable case in the nineteen seventies where three endocrinologists at the Mount Sinai Sinai Hospital in New York all came down with hyperthyroidism in an eight year period apart from this mini epidemic. There were no other cases of hyperthyroidism in the hospital staff in the previous twenty years since all three patients were working in the same division and endocrinologists colleges treat patients with thyroid problems. It was suspected that the three cases were caused by some infectious agent or environmental factor within is in the ward however no common cause was ever conclusively found. There was a third piece of the puzzle that had many people scratching their heads the previous year in nineteen ninety the Bush's family dog millie had been diagnosed with Lupus. This another autoimmune disease lupus is similar to grave's disease but instead of attacking the thyroid. The immune system turns against other organs gins in tissues like the skin kidneys brain heart and lungs. What are the chances that not one not two but all three members of the household came down with the same kind of disease within a two year period while the exact cause of Lupus is unknown unknown. It's also thought to be triggered by some kind of infection. Notably at two thousand four study published in the academic journal Lupus found that dogs whose owners have lupus are significantly more likely to develop the disease themselves the Bush family's case had had experts wondering whether graves disease and Lupus were in fact caused by the same trigger. The question was what was it and where did it come from the White House was carefully monitored to prevent contamination of any sort also Barbara had developed took grave symptoms a few weeks before moving in the source of the mysterious infection. If one existed was probably somewhere else else Dan quayle and his wife Maryland pointed the finger at the ancient state of the plumbing and lead pipes in the naval observatory the official residents for the Vice President George and Barbara have lived there for eight years while George was serving as Reagan's. Vp Millie the dog had lived there for about two years after she joined the family and early nineteen eighty seven on quayle's tip toxicologists tested the water at the Naval Observatory Tori to see if it was contaminated with iodine or lithium which are known to inflame the thyroid ingesting too much of these substances this could cause symptoms similar graves disease but the water tests came back clean they check the plumbing and the paint throughout the residents for traces zip contamination but still nothing with all the obvious sources of contamination ruled out the rumor. Mill turned their attention down the street. Take the Naval Observatory is less than a mile away from the Soviet embassy could advanced Soviet weaponry behind this when Bush was serving as vice president in the eighties relations between the US and the Soviet Union were tense. Theoretically an airborne bacteria or virus could be released from the embassy in fact the Bush family at the Naval Observatory Tori and trigger their auto immune problems however this is wildly unlikely it would be impractical to spread an airborne pathogen pigeon over the entire neighborhood blindly hoping it reaches their target nearly a mile away beyond that if the Soviets truly wanted wanted to kill the vice president they might have gone for a disease. That's actually fatal. Instead of something easily treated like graves disease. The Soviet rumors were we're quickly and fairly dismissed as a conspiracy theory but that's still left experts baffled as to what did cause the trio of autoimmune diseases after a brief investigation they essentially shrugged and decided to let it go without a final answer. George was already recovering and he was ready to move on from all the hubbub in this case political concerns trumped scientific ones the nineteen ninety-two election was already on the radar and Bush's campaign advisors agreed. There was no good in drawing attention to his health issues as chief of staff. John on Sununu said they didn't want people to think they were going to elect damaged president but graves disease. He's affected Bush's reelection campaign in more ways than one over the next year while his hormones were leveling out he was constantly fatigued both mentally and physically according to his campaign chairman. Fred Malik he had the energy to get up in the morning and handle his inbox but that he didn't have the mental energy to initiate to cause change even with measured doses of hormone pills. It can be difficult to strike the right balance occasionally. Bush's atrial fibrillation returned signaling that his thyroid hormone levels were too high when win. The dosage was reduced. He was left feeling tired lethargic assign they'd gone too far in the opposite direction. Bush's hormones eventually eventually found their balance and he was back to his active self. Unfortunately by then is shot at reelection had already been lost on election night of nineteen ninety. Two George Bush was unseated by Bill Clinton. He was the first incumbent president to lose reelection in sixty years. Although the sixty eight year old George never held elected office again he and Barbara stayed active live in the political scene for the rest of their lives after a long struggle with various health issues related to grave's disease. Barbara died died in April two thousand eighteen at the age of ninety two George followed seven months later at age ninety four at the time of of his death he was the longest living president in US history. These two high profile cases brought gray's disease into the spotlight eight but much about the conditions still remains a mystery although research continues. There's currently no definitive answer for what causes the disease Z's as for the Bush family. It's impossible to say whether George Barbara and Millie's autoimmune diseases really were a coincidence offense or if some yet to be identified retrovirus or bacteria was responsible as science advances. There's I hope that the mystery might one day be solved but for now doctors and patients are grateful that even if we don't know what causes grave's Grave's disease we at least know how to treat it. Thanks for listening to medical mysteries. You can find all episodes of medical mysteries and all other park has two originals for free on spotify not only spotify. 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Remembering Jake Burton Carpenter

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Remembering Jake Burton Carpenter

"Hey It's guy here so by now. You might have heard that Jake Burton carpenter. The founder of Burton snowboards died this past week. Jake was sixty five and in his honor. We thought we would really this interview. I did with him back in July of two thousand seventeen. Who's actually an incredible experience? Jake flew down from Vermont for this interview. And he brought me a bottle of Vermont Maple Syrup but what he really brought was himself As you can hear in this interview he was really vulnerable and really human human. And this is a guy who helped elevate snowboarding and turn it into an international sport anyway. All of us. Who got a chance to meet him? Feel really lucky that we did. And if you haven't heard this interview or even if you have it's really worth hearing so take a listen in honor of Jake. I mean I was like Willy Loman and I was traveling salesman and I would load up my car. WHO's a Volvo wagon at the time but I remember once once going out with thirty snowboards and I drove around New York state and visited dealers? I went out with thirty eight and I came home with forty forty snowboard because one guide given me too back that he'd bought and said this is a joke from NPR. It's how I built this show. magnetometers entrepreneurs idealists and the stories behind the movements. They don't aw and today show how Jake Carpenter turned a childhood novelty toy into one of the biggest winter sports in the world and from Built Burton snowboards are so imagine being on an airplane in nineteen seventy seven. You sit down you strike up a conversation with the guy sitting next to you. Ask him what he does and he says something like like. I make sleds for the snow. Except you stand on them escape or you have no idea what he was describing. You couldn't have imagined that. Within twenty years snowboarding would become a multibillion dollar industry. And if that person next to you or Jake Burton Carpenter. There's no no way you'd have predicted that one day one out of every three snowboard sold worldwide would be a Burton snowboards and not because he invented ended the sport he didn't but there's probably no one on earth who did more to popularize it and it didn't happen overnight. Ten years after Jake founded Burton Burton snowboards fewer than seven percent of ski resorts even allowed snowboarding. But today it's hard to find one. That doesn't anything thing about Burton is it. Didn't just build snowboards built a culture around snowboarding. It was a culture that was inspired in part by family. Only ski trips to Vermont Win. Jake was a kid. My Dad sort of figured. It might be something fun for a family to do when I was around. I guess seven or great and he would take the whole family. I just always had this attachment to snow. I meant no school and Still my favorite thing to do in life go to my kids runs and those days behind me but Tom to get up for school and then after they get up to elements of snow day one winter in nineteen eighteen sixty six. There was a brief craze. Across parts of America for a novelty toy call the sniffer as in snow. Plus Surf was basically weekly. A standup sled that you could ride down. A Hill and j carpenter was one of the thousands of kids who bought one for ten bucks. It was a four four foot long piece of wood that was about six or seven inches wide and I know edges and you stood on it on these sort of staples that gave you traction and yet a rope attached to the knows it was a little bit like you're riding a bucking Bronco. Just getting down the hill while it was fun and Brunswick made them. They sold eight hundred thousand or something like that but it developed as sort of called in a positive sense of the word friends and we would do it together and we would modify them for me. it's nerve. It was the opportunity to serve. It was basically surfing on Snow Surfing on snow now. A lot of ways Jake's childhood was is pretty great even a delic but then when he was about thirteen things started to unravel jake's older brother George was killed in battle in Vietnam and a few years later. His mother died as well and for Jake. It was a pretty tough time. He even ended up getting expelled expelled from his boarding school. I mean I was a wise ass and when I was young to a fault and when I got kicked out of Brooks was the school when I want to see the headmaster who was a headmaster one my father was there and when my brother was there it was brutal I mean my dad made me get in the car or go five hours. See See this guy you know for a five minute conversation and then a long drive home and that is why I decided to turn my life around and start applying myself to whatever L.. I did and the way he did. Apply himself was by figuring out how to take what he was. Good at and make money out of it. So Jake's I venture was is a small landscaping business and then after college he went to work for an investor in Manhattan but in the back of his mind he never forgot about the sniffer offer and about its potential to be something much much bigger. Yeah I really from the very beginning of surfing for me. I saw. Aw as something that could be developed and I was sure that Brunswick was gonna do or somebody who was going to do it and nothing happened but you know in the back back in my mind. I always knew it could be a sport and I didn't have a business plan per se but I did the math if I can make fifty snowboards a day I can make a hundred thousand dollars a year. Sure and that would be awesome. You thought I'm going. I can do something in the thing to do is make a much better sniffer. Yeah make money on it. So I started the company and and seventy seven. And and what did you do did you. 'cause you were living in Manhattan at the time right yes and I made my first prototypes in my apartment on the upper stories. Eighty six you have like a shop in your apartment and table saws and stuff. I was clueless. Then as you are now I did not know how to do. I was a loser and shot glasses school like my napkin. Holder was by far the ugliest worst. And so there was with the Sabres Sawn in my apartment Making them out of what you would. Yeah out of the very first. I was modified some surfers around. And then I said gotta gotTa move to Vermont to start this company. We not GONNA start a snowboard company in Manhattan so I left my job in New York City in like early early December I thought well winners here. I started landscaping business when it was spring and you start raking nuance tonight. I had cars swagman inherited from the family under box walks garbage bags and a couple of breaks. And that's what I started my landscape business with manufacturing's a lot tougher than mowing lawns. But I thought okay it's winter now's the time start to company. I almost miss the next winner. Literally it took so long to develop a product and by the way how. How did you finance it? Where where did you get the money? Well my because my mother died at a young age When my grandmother died she had some dough and instead of going to my mother came to be my two sisters and so I- inherited started Almost two hundred thousand dollars and I spent one hundred and fifty of it developing Burton so your middle name is Burton. Yes but you licensed carpenter sue. Why did you call the the snowboards or the company burden? I just always had this interest in guy was named after John House Burton and I the thought that Burton was cooler name and I wanted to name it. Boards boards was part of the name was Burton boards and then I drove drove down to Montpelier Vermont and incorporated went to the so-called all the paperwork and everything was a big moment for me and it started as Burton Corporation or and maybe Burton boards. I sort of some form of crew trademark or not next door didn't have anything official so you so you you move to Vermont and then to start this thing and then what was your next Yeah so I went to this company. Called Bent would company and they made curved would for people that made furniture out of solid ash. Allow so my first prototype was a piece of solid ash that was just put in this thing to curve the nose house. And then I just start writing the Montiel's night literally made hundred mile but of those hundred prototypes. They weren't all solid wood. I got onto Laminated Wood vertically laminated and horizontally laminated like Plywood I went to a friend who lived in California. who had a surfboard company? A and they would let me make boards in their factory at night and I would take a surfboard blank which is six or seven feet long and maybe three or four inches thick and by morning. I'd have whittled down to a snowboard. And they would just these guys were so cool but they laughed at me when you went to these factories and he said I need you to you. Give me this curved piece of this material and they would say what does it for. What would you tell them? I mean the stir for their awareness of it. It had been around so I was telling but I was making a modern rendition of that and I always feared that like the minute. Ski Companies Caught Wind of this that they would just jump on and I'd be out of business in not nobody cares. Nobody cared and was it. Just you like with this thing messing around on hills. Do I was so alone. Yeah wow did you ever come across ask people like what what is that. What are you doing yes? It was to the point literally if I was on a plane somebody who had asked me what I did. Make something up because it was just too Marissa. Arison explain what it was. The I concept of snowboarding wasn't something that it would be like saying today. Yeah I I ride clouds like. That's my job. I make skateboards for cloud skateboarding for sure. It was so weird. So at what point were you able to say I got it. I've got this is the one I'm GonNa make. I thought about this in a long time but I remember that specific moment on Mount Washington in June. And you can hike up. They would have been June of seventy eight seventy okay and I'm hiking up there and Helman's highway was the trail. I had the board or testing the final uh-huh tasked and it was Horizontally Laminated Rock. Maple very much like a skateboard but thinner and more flexible and I wrote down. You know just taking a little bit writings like okay. This is it and then I've decided on the construction now so I go out and rent this place that's going to be this little Sort of factoring and I hire to relatives and a friend to help me take these pieces of curved wood and shape them trill them paint them put fins on them put Matt on them with bindings on them. It was a long process. And we as I said my original plan was to make fifty boards a day. That was always sort of my goal. Because you thought that they were just GonNa this is gonNA blow up. It was going to need. I majored in economics economics at College. Classes with Nobel Prize winners. But I don't know if I really understood supply and demand. Did you shop or Oh yes in Londonderry Vermont with Burton boards written on the front of it and big letter coup or the kinds of people who are coming into your shop in Londonderry Vermont Aunt and saying yeah by one yeah. It wasn't people out for a walk and buying a snowboard and we didn't sell any maybe a few t shirts but most people have found out about us would come there and people. We would advertise skateboard magazines and a little bit of ski magazine to spend some money there because is there. Are these pockets around the country in Michigan and Arizona. These places where people had served and like me and they'd sort of stuck with it and they've got it they understood stood it first year What kind of feedback you get from people? Who bought them do they love it? They were daily this. She's GonNa change the world. Yeah it was I mean I was like Willy Loman. I was a traveling salesman and I would load up my car Volvo Wagon at the time and I remember once going out with thirty eight snowboards and I drove around New York state and visited dealers. I went out with thirty eight and I came home with forty forty forty snowboarders because one guy given me to back that he'd bought and said no one joke. You would visit ski shops basically shops. Yeah that was my first and then ultimately you know some surf shops and it was in the beginning. Skateboard Shop Surf Shop Ski Shops. Nobody wanted any part of it. I mean did you. Were you discouraged at all after that I did. You think maybe this isn't not gonNA work. And maybe I should just cut bait. Yeah I had some. I had a few days. It was tough getting out of bed. Just motivating myself right. I mean you were getting rejected all the time all day long. And you're all by yourself. Yeah and I am like I'm an emotional guy. You know having lost people in so I let go of my to relatives and my friend very quickly and it became back to me and year two because we made enough boards. It's in that first winter. I don't know whether we made thousand or fifteen. We made enough for three years. So they're just sitting here. Yeah they're not. Shabbily fully assembled older boxed but yeah they're pretty much done and so I had one high school kid helping me out part time and now is it. And how many boards did you guys sell that. First Year first year was three hundred senator. Three fifty second year was seven hundred member one day in that second winner of selling and packing up the seven hundredth board and thinking. Wow Wow that's you know that's over doubling so what happens between that first year in that second when you go from three hundred seven hundred why. Why did you double the number of board? I was it just luck. Who is just getting out there? Word of Mouth Marketing. Are you know advertising placing ads in these ski surfer. Skateboard mags. I mean I remember going to check the mailbox. 'cause dealers really weren't that interested you know stores and so we would send out these brochures right from your one we have brochures and we would send them out with a little mail order for minute and now we go to get the mail every day and I remember looking in the mailbox would be like either nothing hang or couple of envelopes some days. There'd be five or six onwards and then you'd open up the thing and that is true. The law reform. And you could get you open up the envelope and it'll be who do T.. Shirts or something and then you open up an envelope and it would be like four snowboards for a family in Connecticut. I mean I can remember it so clearly and where could you actually use them. I'm assuming you couldn't take to a ski resort and just go down on a mountain. Nobody was presented. I mean skiing at the a timer. Twenty bucks a day and it was a lot of money so this was an opportunity to express yourself and have fun out and do with friends and it was a cheap way. They'd have a lot of fun winter. Snow on the ground. Yeah you could not GonNa Resort and to be honest. I didn't start it as resort thing. You didn't care no it wasn't that wasn't the intent. was like a low cost alternative to skiing but then these kids who then. I started hiring hiring more kids. This is maybe you're three to what to just help. Assemble these boards. Put them in boxes and get them out the door still doing all the assembly in that place in Vermont yes and and I hand totaling K. Yeah they were just helped me get the boards out the door. This one resort Bromley. You could drive up to this village. That was quarter the way up the mountain and so we would pile into the car. Drive up to the village everybody would if there were four of us one guy would stay in the car the other three would snowboard down the hill. And then we'd meet at the bottom and do it again and again and then ultimately snowcap drivers would give us rides and we bribes. No cat drivers the six pack or something and they would drive you up to the top of the mountain but it was so challenging to ride those boards people now these vintage racism they get on Olson awards and for the life of me. I don't get it I mean it's you know part but it. It was just these young rebellious. I mean what snowboarding and Burton invaders we revolutionize winner life and This was the beginning of it. So should do you remember a moment when your leaders when this thing like really started. Take off well. I mean in terms of the sport or my company. I mean it was nothing thing I think in the now in the context of starting a business people think of Internet companies just explode. They want and they're just was not a defining moment in the context of the sport blowing up I mean there were big milestones along the way and I think time quotas calling it the worst new sports do you remember when that was it was in the eighty. Yeah that would have been early eighties and Part of that time thing worst new sport was they said it was more about outraging hormones and this was these rebellious young men that were making it happen and then some cool girls. Very courageous ages women got into it and started doing it and I realized okay. WERE NOT GONNA lose any more money. We might not make money but I can manage manage this financially so it just grew and grew and grew but at a manageable pace why didn't ski resorts allow snowboarders in the beginning. Well it was There was a actually a famous case at Stratton which was a resort one of the first resorts. Let us on where this guy where stratton it's in southern Vermont and this guy broken his leg because of some signers something skiing and he sued the mountain and I think he tried to get half million and he got a million in dollars so there was this liability There's this just fee. How're neue about getting sued? Yeah and so that was their fear but they ultimately. Millie would give us a chance and we would lobby with them and their kids. Sometimes often we would lobby resorts and then if a big resort lights we got on strat and then promptly to come along and magic agit mountain. It took years but it was There was no stopping point. Also I guess stark identify people who are really good snowboarders and and and sponsor them. Yeah we'll for a minute there. The these kids that had to work for me just happened to be the best. And then there was a writer Greg Kelly who actually wrote for this company since you started making snowboards after we did but they were a pretty well known skateboard company. And this Guy Craig Kelly road for them but we were good friends and I always told Craig if he ever had the opportunity we we would love for him to ride for us and then Sims ultimately sold his company to Bigger skateboard company. And so we cut a deal and he wrote for me and I paid him. Seventeen thousand bucks a year and This guy was greg. Kelly was a godsend he always used burns boards and was burdensome was all over over his his body yes so having him represent Burton. That must've been pretty transformational beyond transfer him. 'cause you're all of a sudden not only give this advertisement but you've got the coolest and the best guy who can do all this cool stuff and You've got kids seeing this and they're like well I wanna try this and and I guess Burton's the way to go because this guy uses Burton. Yes you know what. That's pretty much. It Craig made the sport cool and the Brand Ghul. When did I mean as snowboarding started to get bigger? The Ski Companies Must Have Thought. Well there's money to be made here right like K.. Two Rossi didn't they didn't they start to make snowboards. It's just so funny. That ski companies were so oblivious. What was going on in front of their eyes? I mean talk about close minded. You know they could have crushed you. Early on right. Could have destroyed us all these rumors. Some ski company's GonNa Start making it in the night. We went from being fly in the windshields. The streets all of a sudden we became a threat in just a minute. Ah Jake dealt with the competitors. Now wanted a piece of the action. Stay with this Guy Rise and you're listening to how I don't this from NPR Hey welcome back to how I built this from NPR. I'm garage so in the early days for J Carpenter Building Burton and at the same time trying to build. The whole sport of snowboarding was sometimes lonely but because he stuck with it and because the sport caught on the big ski companies has you can imagine started to notice in all all of a sudden. The market for snowboards wasn't so lonely anymore. Okay so when when the big companies started to to make snowboards. What happened to you guys well? By the time they started making them we're maybe a third of the resorts and they didn't want the sport to happen right. I mean in these companies did not want to succeed. So snowboarders didn't like ski companies. I mean people did perceive them as not being a real deal will and we didn't keep that a secret. I mean we made it pretty damn clear that we were the real deal but they did have manufacturing ability and some of French and Austrian companies were subsidized by their governments to keep their factories going so from a cost perspective they were lower cost producers for a minute there but it was just they were too late they missed the boat. Did you ever have a as snowboarding really began to take off in the early nineties. Did did you ever face serious threats from competitors either speak or small well. It was always like an early days was a rivalry between burdens. But we we've doubled the number of snowboard sold for the first twenty years I think of the company so simms was a threat at one point two was somewhat of a threat. They got more aggressive earlier on. But no we've been. We've been the number one manufacturer of snowboards since the day. I you know at any point. Did you think about going public doing an IPO seeking Venture capital outside outside investors. Anything like that yeah. Interestingly there was this one company called ride and they started out and then a guy that worked for us went to work for them. You sort of a mid level manager at least competing snowboarding company competing slow-burning company and you went to work for them and then they went public and at a very low the price and the stock went up to its split. And then we're up to thirty five bucks so is up to seventy on a nonsmoker. Valuation was huge huge. And this kid was a millionaire all of a sudden and I felt this enormous amount of pressure. Like I'm taking care of my people back and like just am I doing doing the right thing here. And so I went and I met with a couple of Big New York investment banking firms. And I just couldn't deal the the vibe with us and then all of a sudden right stock which was at thirty five bucks at the time went down to two bucks because they had these expectations nations that like Wall Street. They take things and they project unrealistic expectations so ultimately people have realized allies working for a privately held company has many many advantages. I guess it was in like ninety eight. That snowboarding corning became an Olympic sport. There must have been crazy. I mean you. I know that you don't like to say this new deny it but you are widely credited as the guy. He really made snowboarding. What it is and this is became an Olympic sport? How what did you think when that happened like that must have been a pretty amazing amazing moment? It was not a cool moment at all. I was not. That's that was not the answer. I was expecting what happened. Will face which is a international ski federation. It's Swiss whatever governmental body in Control the scene and then they started having snowboard competitions when they said aside from their ski races and we were wondering what they we're up to and then they just arbitrarily decided okay. Nobody is going to be the Olympics. They didn't even give me a phone call. They never told us anything. I will take credit for pioneering during the sport and you would think that you might pick up the phone and tell that person what you're up to or how do you think we should do this. None of that they just arbitrarily. It's like the baseball player that finds out. He's traded when he reads it in the newspaper. And then I go to the Olympics. We've got our team there and I get to the venue and they've got snowboarding misspell at the venue. You spell it. Well you spell it with a w snowboarding but they had s n o Hyphen Boarding in Nagano. Japan is not a good sign right so oh and then they proceeded to have the the the raising thing was horrid conditions and they Decide it was a driving rainstorm storm. And they say okay. We can't have the men's down. We would never have this procedure ski event in a rainstorm. But no they can go. They can get risk life and limb and not be wearing goggles. It's raining so hard and so but nonetheless they've gotten better and they're doing it better and better job in. The American arm commits a form of of national associations. They care about the sport and they've got some people that care about the sport and they're trying to do better but the last two Olympics venues for the freestyle install stuff which is what people care about for the half pipe and slope style. The venues have been really sketching as your company grew describe. The culture of the company was at. I mean I'm looking at you right now. And I cannot imagine you ever wearing a suit and tie and and being like a boardroom boss like for example like where do you have your meetings with your top team and stuff like you wore meetings. You know you look at my office. it's three sofas and chairs and a coffee table. There's no desk and our senior conference where we have our board meetings itself is in your feet up upton bring your dog to work and one hundred thirty two registered. Dogs are people you know we sort of keep track of the number and It's resembles snowboarding's lifestyle and were a tribe and we are so focused on the sport everybody in that company. You know damn near everybody. The company snowboards and because that's our source of energy. That's where you recharge your batteries and somebody was like Jake. I'm going to be in late today because snowboarding no boarding. It's pretty much. The I mean if it snows over two feet. It's an automatic day off the whole company and last year there were three Korea those days which is almost too nice. I mean I like people to work to. I'm not it's But people come in late and work late you you know people work hard there so that's As long as people are giving us a solid effort I get it if they WANNA get up there and catch a few runs on the Great Day. So your your wife. Donna She she actually at some point became took over as as the company's CEO. Right and and and how did that happen. And what's what's the story there. Well she came and went and then She was even CFO for while this early days. And then when we had had kids she backed off some. She wasn't working as much then. And then when the financial crisis hit which was really had hit you guys? Well the bank charges US four million dollars to change one paragraph in our loan agreement which was called covenant. When you're borrowing money your earnings had had to represent a certain ratio compared to how much money we're borrowing and we slipped on that one because it was a very tough year and we weren't losing money we were making money But literally they said Oh will you broke his covenant so you're GonNa pay a four million dollar fee and that boy I mean we had to lay people apple off. We weren't making the money that we had been in so we adding snowboards because the recession. Yes exactly you know. It's always been a youth driven markets. Kids I mean people woodby two or three snowboards a year and you look at Italy or Spain two very big markets for us and the unemployment rate amongst six people under twenty it was fifty percent. It was a very tough Tough time and through this process of this crisis and I think it's not unique to Burton our company culture. kind of got destroyed happened while I think a lot of people would blame other people for things. Negative things that were happening in Newark Finger pointing and their culture at our company was messed up and at the same time I felt women in our top management and and that just felt wrong to me so oh I got in there and I and Donna came along with me and at that level and we were running the company and I brought her serve specifically to help with the culture culture and get more women in leadership positions Burton when you say culture. I mean I'm just trying to get through the INNUENDO. It was it. Was it like Bro. Arro- ash was it. Like male sort of macho was it like I mean what what was the thing. You WanNa Change. Well I mean you're not unhappy when you're being managed by fear or or you instill fear yourself that you're gonNA lose your job or it's just you need to make people people have to understand when and why stuff happens. Were you responsible for any then for any of that. Fear Bay stuff Well I think I hired many of the people that were in and around it and I think did them We were all responsible to a certain extent I mean. I don't think that's ever been a tactic that I've used. Hopefully but I certainly let it happen under my nose. Do you think that you have a hard time with criticism and asset because you know it it can be really problematic right if you're unwilling to listen to somebody. He says. Listen I know you built this thing but I'm trying to make it better. Listen to me you know. That's true but less and less and less every year I mean I. I did every job that company I mean I made the first board and for a while there. I mean we might have had fifty employees and I was convinced not in a in bragging way but I could do anybody's job better than they could but that's not the case anymore. You know we've got engineers now that I don't even have a hard time having a conversation with them but Aw I got better at it and I had a sense to Surround myself with people. Were better at things than I am. That I'm not good at. That's been good. I've learned to delegate. That's not an easy thing to learn how to do. Especially when you're detail oriented learn to let go like that you have the trash people beyond trusting. You have to let them screw up and live with it and live through mistakes if they repeat the mistakes and that's not a good sign Burton's Burton's made every mistake in the book but I don't think we've made too many twice. Why didn't I mean I'm sure at certain points? You are offered money money to to buy your company. I just didn't take those phone calls. I mean you could. I mean you could have sold this company you know been like a philanthropist and a better life sounds pretty cool it sounds like a pretty great life. Well I for a long time. If people would ask me that question I would say well and I think I become a couch potato chips and watch sports center you know and so You know snowboard plenty. But I mean it's the best job in the worldwide. Would I ever walk away from it. That's selfishly admittedly that's always been part of it. And I think there were doing a great job. Robin were humming along. If if we were really struggling and might be more appropriate for me to look at that more seriously You're in a really tough couple years and you're just now experience in the recovery of it. Any surgery I guess in Twenty fifteen right and then before that you had you had have harsher tree right and then you pedalled cancer testicular cancer. Yeah and I dealt with the whole process of chemotherapy which is dreadful and in the tail end of that I was in a plane. I had a pulmonary. Embolism which really still affects me. And then I came down with Miller Fisher. That form of Gambro has that experience changed the way you live your life and you interact with the people you love well. I sure don't don't take my family for for granted anymore and I do live live for the moment. I mean much more than ever I mean I think it it happens through something like that. I don't know why home but it does or did to me. Must put into perspective all your success and wealth in the thing that you built else like obviously that stuff matters but like in the context of your life. Nothing else really matters. Yeah yeah that stuff couldn't have been further further from my mind. I think it is now though now prepared to die really. Yeah I am much more so I could die. Get hit by a bus walk out of your studio when I still think luckiest guy because of the life you've had yes. Could you ever have imagined when you're in that first year near to fire your employees and they would've built something this big. I had no idea that what would annapolis no bringing a sport but I did not see Shaun White on the cover of rolling stone twice or snowboarding me and the Olympics or The stuff that's happened. And it's been the athletes that have made it happen. And we've facilitated it but it's been exceeded I wouldn't even say dreams because I never dreamt anything on the level that we're on now. That's Jake Burton Carpenter founder. Bird snowboards spoke Jake and July of two thousand seventeen died on November twentieth. Two Thousand Nineteen at the age of sixty five

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Recap of Louisiana Derby, Look at Top 25 Derby Contenders, look ahead to ...Will Rogers?

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Recap of Louisiana Derby, Look at Top 25 Derby Contenders, look ahead to ...Will Rogers?

"Award warned wellcome. Trust podcasts. So seventeen I believe. Isn't that right empire maker? That's correct seventeen times now seventy times. We've we've got a podcast out to you including this one. We're here to talk about a lot of the Derby. Prep obviously. There's a lot of stuff going on to the world in terms of health in the corona virus. So we're GONNA talk about that. Talk about a couple of successes. We've had this past week and also looking forward to will. Rogers not exactly when everyone has circled on their calendar. But if there's racist to be had there's money to be made we'll take them anywhere we get them. Yeah I'm good. Thanks thanks doing well. I was just GONNA say The benefactor colonel virus right now is will rogers. This thing went from your Tuesday afternoon. One slate of twenty that nobody cared about to the Kentucky Derby every day of the week. They're running especially. I think it was last Monday. They were the only the only track in the whole country inches. Pretty cool actually. But you know in this post corona virus world. It's a little bit of rough rough times. Everybody but for some reason now will rogers bring it up. The bringing up the sport right now takes. I mean horse racing in general the fact that they're able to let's jump into that. I think we had the talk about a little bit later. In terms of the Derby season how the krona viruses impacting it. Clean on that one. I mean that right. You'll see and we'll get into that. Yeah I think it's interesting because I see a Lotta people posting you know without Basketball Hockey Football Baseball. Whatever sport you follow. They're looking for a gap to fill in. I find it kind of interesting that for the most part horse racing his has gone forward. There's definitely been some steps back. In terms of major races being pushed out racism keeneland raises and Churchill Downs Belmont I think official dome honor preakness. I think officially pushed out. I can't remember which one but but and there's been jockeys who have been dropping out. I know I read. Ortiz is pulled out this past weekend of all of his races to quarantine himself. Yeah for the most part. The the sport is pushing forward in giving spectators. Something to watch may wear rare sport where the audience participation is really not that critical to the game. More gribben buying casino sports books in online gambling as much as anything. I mean these guys are taking head. For example we had a giant party planned to keeneland coming up for the BLUEGRASS. I guarantee that's killing that track somewhat. You know it's not it's not a showstopper but that track stood to make hundreds of thousands of drunk idiots that were coming there that week like me my friends so as an example of where they're taking a it but for the most part like I said I mean a lot of these Louisiana Derby just ran. That was impressed seriously. Did Not think that was gonNA happen. That was cruel to see. Even without the crowd is still better than nothing like you said. This is only shown Tom Right now. It's probably a good time for or reason to get more on the map which is good to see. That's what I keep thinking to and this past weekend. Yeah we did We did cover the Louisiana Derby twelve races at the New Orleans fairgrounds with some success. Some failures there were a lot of large fields and internally internally we hit on three races at twelve externally I think there were some changes that were made the didn't get posted to race five so externally. We MISSED ON THAT ONE. It would have been a win otherwise in terms of our why. We're GONNA count that one as a loss unfortunately but numbers wise. We at least the know how well we we did. And how well the formula did and that was that was within a couple of percentage points anyway. This spend on that slate was like sixty. Six League ended up return on about sixty so if our correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was just a few bucks didn't lose or win significantly on that day. The I seem to remember. We were seven or eight dollars short when we're getting towards the final race because we did have one that I think was worth a forty dollars which ait-frah significantly mets late. So so yeah. That was an interesting one to there. Were a couple horses that we're following for that. That definitely did not live up to expectations enforceable in modernist being the main two horses that I was looking to see obviously Was it wells bye? Wells wells by was I think the second choice public wise and always been the radar for me. I don't know I didn't didn't have them in the top twenty five. He might peaked into the top twenty five but never somebody who I saw winning this race nor money shifted that horse to the favourite by the time They started and Definitely saw why it went out to an early lead and looked like it was about to give in but ended up winning towards the end of remember that race right and the New York traffic was second Mitch and ever even heard of that thing and I don't know I don't know what to make that I have more questions than answers after that race. To be honest with you I mean we knew wells by you. Modernist and enforceable or by the ones to watch and enforceable pretty much should the bed wells by. You was good enough to win. What kinda seemed like a kind of a blond race? The honest surgery in modernist was close. But I don't think any of these guys are GONNA be impact of. We'll go through that the top twenty five list as we go through the top twenty five minutes now or go on. What are we doing yes or we just just going over last week. The other When we hit on Saint Patrick's Day look the Irish for us Sam Houston we had one hundred and forty percents. Roi That our new record one point seven if we're going to get critically and that was the oldest standing record I think I posted the new records up on the facebook page of not all running back again. This guy had some serious illness issues as we know it wasn't corona but definitely vote like it might have been a couple of days. There's been down and out a little bit on. Not a Saint Patrick's Day Simpson returned one hundred forty one point seven percent. Some big hits all day. Those are fun fun day for the better broker record absolving back from October. Which is the monthly started? So those are I I race. Right there we We stated that record in didn't break it until few days ago. Yau's mid mid October late. October even was either a first slater's first weekend that we trust the province kicked off and then since then now the wind plays show inexact attract records of all been breaking here and there most more January February this year. That one was the oldest us cool we need to. We needed that one yeah. We went seven ten that day to seven. Wins out of ten races with our three exact the box. Three hundred box and today The Day Sunday the twenty second. We played Gulfstream one five nine on that one for eighty two percent. Our ally had a couple of good wins. They're talking with a couple of major hits. It would just changed up how we as the formula along the way as well to to. Gut Ryan was just GonNa say just to touch on that. It's now March. Twenty second and at this point in the monk we are cruising right about as close to zero percent our allies. You can be which is To be honest with you somewhat disappointing but but in all honesty it's probably it is our our best month to date with. The woman was those bar and it's showing progress and the bigger news is that We are continuing to to get better. You can see it. I mean I go into these these slates with a lot more confidence than six three weeks ago and it's Just got four hundred. Some facebook followers down. It's good to see people are wanting wanting information in playing with us. Let's get to seize with our ability to get get more successful marks bar. Yeah in between those two slates. We had a couple down a couple down. Slates which is why we wanted to make adjustments to the formula to make sure that were You know limiting the valleys and trying to maintain the peaks that were seen to get to that positive Roi. Yeah one of the verdict. One of the adjustments you made today. I know the formula made a big adjustment in a race. That was direct impact today. That was the biggest payout of the day. Had Forty forty some dollars. Exact too bad route. Pay ON ONE DOLLARS. monster and It it wouldn't have one yesterday one today because of changing mates look. We're doing here so early dividends. Let's hope it keeps going a? Let's just open to the Derby season contenders. Now I I offer but he knows by now the the Derby has been postponed until September fifth leaving touched on before. They're looking to keep the triple crown intact. And I think they'll make that happen and they're hideous they don't let's be honest because they're only cheating the sport in general they don't not just the horses the owners connections everything else shooting sport. Because that's what I mean unless your dealing snob late late we are. Let's be honest. The the the the fringe fan of this game listens to the Kentucky Derby a maybe the triple crown and maybe the breeders go. But it's definitely derby in the triple grounded if you're a fringe fan. I think it's a huge mistake to let the triple crown. Go Away unless you know. Obviously if the corona stuff continues for too long to make it happen the nets a different story. But yeah to me it's idiotic to not at least try to keep the triple crown intact. Keep it intact and also keep it attended to. They could definitely be running a lot of these raises like the one. You're planning to go to in Keeneland by. Yeah I think I think the big thing here Kinda Kinda like. We touched on earlier for a lot of the small races. We can still keep horse racing alive keep people interested but for the big races. You WanNa make sure that you keep intact the the thing that goes on around that right the whole loss for the party in the atmosphere the attendance the Kentucky gets gets pretty big round those days right. It has a different feel to it. Almost like being New Orleans for Mardi Gras but I think that part of it alive and not. Just make this thing that people watch on. Tv and then click to the next channel you know. I saw when the drones stuff is breaking hardcore last week I knew was going to be canceled or postponed and I was just really happy. That decision was postponed not cancelled. Because I mean a lot of sports the I get it with the march madness and everything. There wasn't much they do that. Really sucks it's heartbreaking for everybody involved even the NBA. Don't care as much. About those guys make zillion dollars but the the kids in college for the March madness dreams and all that that sucks but in this case in a horse race yes can affect the game. Bigtime would distinct being six months later. A lot of the horses. That were geared up. Ready are up in the air now. A lot of the horses that we had counted out up to this point are now kind of back in the game. So in any case we'll We'll see how it pans out of League. Hopefully they can run this thing trip brown and if they can run it. If it doesn't work out it's GONNA make for the most exciting fallen horse racing history. You're going to have the triple Crown Breeder scub- all the prep races all within probably hopefully late August September October timeframe Islamic world can breathe healthier by. Maybe a less chance. We'll see a muddy triple crown this year. Too Right. Yeah it could. It could work out to be a really cool thing. I mean yeah or open. Everybody's obviously not wanting to die from this thing but all right we'll want to get back to normalcy at some point to you on the line between death and normalcy right if thing sort of frigging bad black mirror episode But right what are you gonNA do so anyway? Let's move into the top twenty five list which is easily the most difficult thing right now to try to predict because like I said there's a Colossal shift in. Who was ready. Who wasn't ready. There's a couple of horses. They're back on the list out so with that Twenty fifth ad this week modernist just what he did. He's not GonNa win the thing with that sad with what we look at. Four months fringe like six months. Five or sales for enduring is on the fringe. Could things better than what he's doing but was six months now until the derby that could be different resources sources will be different versus throw. Clinton puberty right now right. They're just better horses out there right now. Waiting to the luck of fringe absolutely in the same can be said for number. Twenty four have enforceable. He was in my top ten for the last couple of months of data may drop dollar twenty four. I leave him in the top twenty five. Because of they're the talent will be seen it yet a bad day. Twenty-three storm the court. That thing is another. He was in the top five for a long time right. That's the Breeders Cup Sham. Things got he's got a shot two bounce back highly doubt at twenty three twenty two. I have accession. Which is the horse. I'd never even had my eye on before. He almost ran down the doll. The doll just went man child in destroyed. Nobody was getting beaten it on that day but accession the dog. Good run the thousand and interesting to watch but we'll get into that later. Yeah Yeah accession. That was a that was in my opinion. I think it most people's opinion that was the most stacked rates of the years of our in brick session to come on finish like he had granted all speed burn each other out and he was the only closer left at the end but he did almost pulled the upset of life. Down there Twenty one I'm still hanging onto. Nobly looked impressive early in the season. I don't know where he's at what he's doing clearly. Clearly he's got some speed. We'll see where he ends up again. This list almost impossible right now. Twenty Basin Basin first time. The top twenty five looked pretty impressive when he get third in that thing. Blitzer third last time out Every time I've seen it is bannon close no cigar but close again. He's kind of falls into that storm. The court category where. He's not good enough to win. But we'll see where he's at six months thousand words nineteen banned list all year. Another one where I'm playing more on potential impasse than I am recency which is difficult to do But reset button with the six timeframe again. I'M NOT GONNA be debt to death your number eighteen another one get second third fourth place every time you see them We'll see without goals Seventeen Mac `field who was off the list. He I believe he was number. One or two on my list When this thing started I think this is about ten weeks into this list? Now he was number one or two any slowly. Dropped out my list. This is the biggest. He's the biggest corona virus fan in the plenary. Now matfield is so happy that five thousand people have died or whatever is going on. Because he's back in the Derby discussion the first time in weeks. He was the favourite going into the breeders. Cup juvenile favored everything. He's ever touched on healthy. You needed the time. So He's the biggest benefactor got him at seventeen. We'll see leads any comments so far from the formula. No no keep going keep it going. I'm curious to see what happens with Max `field through because one is the last time that horses raced unknown on here right now not even knows what to expect from that. Yeah Sixteen as Coast He ran the It's GonNa be a challenge for me here. Oh Camille on the El Camino Real Derby against kind of elsewhere the weaker preparation sows are but Eat very dominant. I liked him He was during out for a rape he was. I mean obviously. All these words were gearing up for big races in the next couple of weeks real interested to see where he was known. Fifteen mischievous Alex another Another winter of preparation recently. He won the the Gotham again. Not The toughest field under but a Bruce Deacon win When it under the big big spotlight big purse races Let's see fourteen hundred solely allante again. Mostly based on his two Two races ago performance. Not so much. His last one recounted disappointed. The world last came in second right so solar. Allante or sold volant. As I was saying before found Spanish he got beat by the team. Guillermo Martinez Joint dickey Martinez Blowing Detroit Tiger Cigar. Smoke all over the place. Only thing good all over salons as the top five contender team. Garo came out of nowhere and beat them again. Because of the DRAGGERS CONNECTIONS. That was awesome. Let's see number thirteen. I've got independence hall. He's not one of those who's been hanging around Independence Hall has let me see. I got a fact on with rising anything but things ever finished poorly. He ran CIARAN. No Sam Davison Tampa Bay finished second to solve. Allante swearing ran. Maybe he hasn't done I think that's the last time I've heard of independence hall. I think he was geared up to run this weekend coming up. And he's another one that's kind of been hanging out there on twelve. I have wells by you. I didn't know where to put him. That was a tough tough place for me to try to find a spot for him because obviously deserves. That was a that was a major race. Louisiana Yeah I think that's about right for wells by I mean you you don't WanNa go too much recent. Cps Plug in easily at twelve or the top ten. Rather twelve is probably about the right spot. Race eighty suck five or six guys. You can't tell me the street faces allows by. Who's going to be hanging on with these guys? I mean I just don't see it could put him out there even a number eleven. I am honored who Iran Second Team I repeat ran. Second OFF Bayonet and that was a much more impressive race theory. That has a cord thousand words. Authentic Honore peak in Second. There was more impressive. Second Amendment was blown away by wells by Sacre. He's eleven number ten welcome back first. Time TO LISTEN LONGTIME MR MOM laying out another of. I think two or three years ago when he announced heated time for swelling the derby trail. He's back now and that. Yeah what was that? Was the risen star. That was that was impressive win yesterday. Mr Modern kicked everybody's asks enforceable silver state FARMINGTON ROAD. There was a bunch of good contenders. Nearly embarrassment bras in now with some time. He's back he's number ten number nine Governor Morris Todd pletcher joint. He's been hanging around. This is actually the first sign of Adam in my top ten. He's been about twelve to fifteen last few weeks. But just based on some of these other. Guys being unimpressive. He's creeping up for me. Eight eight rings. Eight rings around the top ten year. He's another one is benefiting from the Journal virus delays here. He's he was up to fifth at one point. I believe on my list in with the extra time. Dooley's lazy he's GonNa Benefit. He's got some. He's got some health issues. Seven is Max player. Max Player was another one geared up to two run big racist weekend. I believe Haven't seen him since the first week of February withers withers Chan See Number six Kim year among while the old while the overrating the source. But I don't care it's my guy. Victor and I realize the incredible racier and man is not. I saw that when shore. So here's the thing about king gear all right. So what is the Horse Race Tier or even on the right? He's he ran the Tampa Bay Derby be salons Impressively blew everybody away. Paid like one hundred bucks. Two men right right. I don't think you're overrating him at all If you look right four races first race came in sixth place and then after that at least I third I rating one hundred points every single time right. It's pretty impressive horse on a short track. I think it's opener was a complete bath right I'm not even sure where it opened at. But it's opening race was was so bad compared to where that horses right now that. I think people are starting to catch on to it. I think that's why it was a fifteen to one opener at the Tampa Bay Derby Fifty fifteen to one hundred fifty north morning line ended up fifty one and one. Easy but yeah. That's that's the case of a late. Bloomer I mean he's a late. Bloomer happens all right right. I mean the difference between his first race and then the next three races just night and day totally different horse and if you actually look at some of the numbers on the worst it starts to make sense. White wanted then kicking myself afterwards for not thinking. Better the source rate in terms of having a highest lifetime race. It was right there with with all the other great horses in that Race Solar Allante Chance it was the horse that I was betting. High on Janssen. Didn't even finish in the top three for that race But yeah those were the big names that were being talked about SPA city. If you look at its races it was right there with all those horses. Just in terms of of compensating and To be overlooked. I'm kicking myself over it now and I think it's average got pulled down by its first race so just numbers wise. That's why I overlooked at Johnny. Paid like one hundred eighty bucks on two dollars to about so not to sharing we. Won't we won't hold that against you. I'll tell you what's your stands. Airmails ploy play is every seventh grade. Kid who walks into a middle school and doesn't have a beard yet yet. The kid next to him in the locker room does I think. That's what's going on with King Dear Moana. Yeah this six months again. Another grown of Irish Fan. You went out and bought a case. Corona bearden celebrating with the Kids Kingdom on the rise. Needle pointed up the F- y'all so in the top five at Indian number five for sure and this thing this obviously V that means we have a ton of respect Rome. Your dealer reason. He's not higher because the but just happened last weekend. Which is our number four hours. Authentic Bobby Baffert it's hard. It's hard to imagine that Bob efforts third-best horses ranked number four will list. Because he's got three in the top four but authentic. I have four. He wanted he one else. Tampa wasn't Now I'm sorry that was uh He wound up early he beat. Rip Thousand were restored. The girls guys impressively to previously marriage and it wasn't for my number three was charlatan just blowing up for another hundred and six speed rating has lashed rooms. He's gone one hundred five hundred six things of man child. He's probably number one reason why he's number three is because he's raised against me and my friends drunk Saturday night. That's why he's raised anybody an ad for every other horse in that race. My God so it's Indian is by authentic four Charlatan is now three for me and that thing is probably number one in reality but would love to see again. The six month game changes everything. But if I had to say they were going to run out right now. I don't see any reason that Charlatan Nadal run away with his long checkout so spoiled the top three with that said but Nidal number two and I don't know why to be honest Shaq Charlatan. Adult is the law. I think he'd throw those three and a half. That's until we sent him again is harvest say. Nidal pulled off the best. Most impressive wins ever seen a couple of weeks back. I mean he had three of your top ten or top. Fifteen speeders is in the world out. There he's going knows detail with them. Kept the lead and then creeps out and here comes close out of the Blue. Looked like look like an adult by getting down by this no-name closer excessive accession rename is an expression in adult answered back and basically spit in his face local. I mean you could almost see you within twenty yards of me in another dear to the thing. That's what I was gonNA say about the doll right. You hit the nail head right there. We're both watching that race at the same time. At one point I said oath. Looks like he's fading. Because the rap on an adult was having seen a run a mile yet and even when you were in that seven furlong race there was a lot of closing it and going on right. It looked like he was about to lose ground but finished a nose ahead of everyone. Once again in this race jumps ahead of everyone stays ahead. Coming around the bend. Looks like everyone's catching up to them. There's another knows creeping up on his ear and he just pulls into that next year when you think that he's just going to start fading and get overrun by the crowd. Didn't happen this or seems. Just keep going into the going back for more right it. It just digs deepen find another dear. It's like the old the Sea Biscuit Secretary at stories that you've heard from one hundred years ago where they just. They only do what they gotta do own. Somebody gets close to so beaten them they. They've got another dear wait. That's what it looked out with that number one still. Tis The law again. I don't know how I'm going to be able to justify that much longer with with the doll in Charlotte coming up on them I just his laws got the most respectable racist or has the only reason still ahead with him In reality if it raced tomorrow at Probably Bet Charlatan thing but he just got approved another time or to even though it's just a joke when he's doing it's like Mike Tyson in the brick and now you know Ronald Blake. Twenty Kale's roller embarrassing. Everybody it's got to find out who the buster Douglas in that scenario. Exactly let's answer for now. We'll keep updating this every week. You know it's not going to be much update so it will basically just be a couple couple versus moving up and down here and there just based on health and such but the top three in the top six. If you've got the three horses after it I think it's. It's GonNa be a lot of interesting talk to figure that that out at enough to the Derby. Now let's let's get off the small talk from the European in prep race yet into the the big. The big show will rogers on a Monday afternoon. What could be bigger the will. We're heading to will rogers. Mister Rogers neighborhood on Monday afternoon. We're going to start with race. One seven horses counter one two three four five six seven So going with a new strategy here using the same formulas I've used before but just looking at him in a different way to try to maximize ential it exactly each time with three horses. I'm getting the first one. I'm going with year Alex's Bourbon by far the favorite one point four to one odds on that But if you look at the numbers there's no other horse that's even within ten rating points away from this worse in pretty much any categories. I think Alex's Bourbon has to be your exact After that WHO that's the name of the Horse that's right. W H E W in the six slot. Getting eight to one odds. Why like this worse? There's a couple formulas that I have that have. This is the number one horse. Probably based on It's average race within the last three races. Not Nearly as high as Alex is Bourbon but probably the next step up from there or the next step down from there rather The will woo. That's like name date to be announced that has to read that on television or public access television. If you're talking about the will rogers. I can't wait to see if the will rogers announcer as something cute like or some stupid thing to pull off to be cute. The number three horses also in the three thoughts twelve to one odds on Zan Creek not to be confused with Zan If you're a streetfighter fan that's my number. Three horse were Gaza for that matter. Seven six three those are. That's my play for the three horse. Exact box in race one relevant metric race. Five Horse Layton Kentucky. Welcome first time to podcast. Floyd money whether the top jockey at out will rogers in the past twelve months here. Truly impressive transition from the boxing ring from coast to sport a king's Floyd Money Mayweather Looking to get it done for us here on the five in the leading battle next gary sue them race to. Let's talk about eleven horses? What do we got here for eleven horses? We're we're talking five furlongs or five and a half furlongs. I'M GONNA go with tax in for my number one pick. That's the second horse in terms of In terms of morning odds seventy-two on taxing. But I like that horse the best Most of my formula here got applejack. And Princess less given the one as well as flutter shy in rarity so across the board choke on that skin rarity rarity. Haven't heard the race race the mood. That's my number two horse in the fourth lot. Getting four to one odds race the moon and then heading down to the ten slot sooners fan. That's I know where Oklahoma at the will rogers when you see the horse cold sooners fan. I'm a sooners fair. Very yes big. Time W W Rogers Race Park over the sings called. What is it the downs w rogers downs? My fault no disrespected downs here. Yeah Yeah you better better bite your tongue on that so five five four ten. I take any order on that. Were boxing it up for the the exact that fight for Ted Aright Relevant is race to core six. Maverick Brung this is. This is a son of tap and everybody knows my history the big big fan of tapping not at all a son of Tappan in preaching. Maybe the most annoying tappan offspring name of seeing yet This thing is twelve to one trash. Everybody knows tap is by the regarded as the top top player in the world. Right now putting out awesome horses all over the place but I still hate him and his kids Jockey Gusts Herrera will ensure this thing has no shot outer so look for that number. Six source did not had the board and race to next. Look for nothing to happen with that. Zagreb things not even there go okay this this race race. Three it's rated eighty eight ongoing with number one horse. Man U Second in terms of morning odds. You're looking to three one on menu but I do like fact. It's the highest in terms of average in the last three races. It's got decent jockey on it. And for the distance six furlongs it's got the best rating in my opinion being just hasn't raised in almost a year but I'm putting a lot of a lot of faith in that number four horse. It took me about ten minutes to realize that this is Burton. Joe Not but in Joe but JOE BUT JOE UNLESS I l maybe I I know I think that hurt Burton Joe but had it burnt joe so birch. Joe Doesn't matter as whatever the name you walk up to the machine you press the number four the four horse getting five to one odds right now. I do like Burton Burton Joe even if I don't like its name And then number six going more four to one odds the odds in the middle of the pack. You're pretty good. Some of these are probably GONNA shift low but some progress shift highs will dance door like a dance doors. My next horse here One four six in the three race race. Three relevant metric is number four. Burt Gel earn Joe Horrible. Nave interesting parties. Even worse is the jockey's name. Wait for it we talk. This is an enemy fighter. I hope she doesn't find out who I am. Beat ME TO DEATH. Shell C Bailey. Chelsea Chelsea C. H. G. O. Hyphen C. C. H. E. L. Hyphen C. Working to do I want I got a I pay money. Is that God given the parents name that thing matter. Did she change it legally or just keep thing but anyway chill chill UNBURNT JOE early? That's that's it for three. We've got him in the box. Go ahead and better. Maybe karate kicker bringing the face Win The thing knows Rudolph race racing them with former we looking at race number four. We're going up to a mile. We got seven horses racing in this one. We're GONNA start with the again the second horse in terms of morning ads. Moro compass. I've got this one. The Best Horse in terms of the mile. I also like the fact that its highest lifetime which was only four races ago in. It's been within that Range Rover since Is By far the highest of the seven horses racing. Here it's average lasts. Three is the highest is well. I think that's a pretty safe bet to go with moral compasses. Your number. One tickle bunny is number six force. It is number one in terms of odds. Hard to avoid tickle. Bunny though you're going to hate yourself for doing it tickle bunny and if I'm GONNA do tickle bunny I might as well go shaker bakers well in the four slot. I have a feeling that is probably a Baker Mayfield reference as well as maybe a dance reference. I don't know things are done differently in Oklahoma. Three six four. That is my. That's my lineup. For race four yeah four. You'll be surprised to find out. The tickle bunny is also the irrelevant metric No way that again. That not much to say about tickle bunny other than Jerry. Sandusky was a huge man of playing. A game called tickle bunny with kills as well as hide the hot dog with the local kids. Also play Shaker baiser mayor. I don't know I don't know but yeah G. J. Sandusky you advocates your choice of the six year for a lot of jokes touch out there or not touch till bunny all right money. Let's go raise five. Clean ourselves off tickle bony race relies object. Not Talk about okay. We're going to slightly longer race here. So Mile and a sixteenth six horses raided a ninety nine. So we're talking some pretty serious horses for the Will Rogers Number One. Worse is the number two is also the chalk. Stevens Answer Just in terms of ratings most of my best metrics say that this is the number one horse not unanimously enough. At least what it in the box and start with it because even got even spin off at scheme got back in the day if you remember him yeah. We go through that to notorious nick. Three to one odds getting great odds. Because there's only a few horses in this race gotta go once that are looking skilled. This one this one to me just looking at the numbers you can go either way between this one and Stevens answer but this one to me. It looks like it's got the best median race medium distance rating. It's been in the higher pace races or better pace races It's averaged in the last three slightly less than what Stevens answer as these two I think are neck and neck for one in to. They're not going to get a great payoff. They come in one into the next door. We got memory bank four to one. You really hoping to see some movement on any sources memory bank. Looks like your your third pick year so that that's what I got here to five and four in race five relevant metric raised five is number one. Sorry about nothing. Grammar Horse. Lusa Luccio as dome trainer Carlos Winning Jockey carmine scarf. Pablo as Dream Team of just coke coke moving out Peruvian gangsters. You've ever heard reiter. They're all up in the booth. Celebrate number one here You know like you said you pick your pick your three in the box. He's not in their number one. I would just say you got an extra six bucks laying around. Throw him into a box for Things could get weird with a one horse out. Here with the carmine. Carmine is on the will rogers tomorrow. He told me so could shift things a little bit there at as always if you do get a photograph of carmine. Scar Paglia posted on trust the prophets facebook page. We will send you a free t shirt. Yeah he'll sign it to. That is our promise to you. Move on to raise six movin under a six so we go from a few highly rated races that last one thousand ninety nine to complete trash in across appointment this thing was as gross five furlongs of beasts that may not even be horses seven of them to choose from. Good luck. Picking three that you like out of this. I'll give you the three that I like and you can. You can make your lease ask the one I got your relevant. Please don't have my gun into cash. God DRC's arm candies my number one. It's the three slot two to one odds not great odds when you see the stuff. That's getting better odds you'll know why could you name any more than that please? By the way was space a little thing but capitalizations is nuts. Go ahead and who was who was. Drc anyways that like the mayor of Topeka. I duNno I duNNO DETROIT RAYS X club in back in one thousand nine hundred sixty s Thoroughbred racing the sixties but won't go back that works for me that works for me. Tommy's Lexus. Tommy Spilled T. O. M. E. Y. Maybe it's Tony's Lexus. That's my number two or three to one odds in the force lot And she's earthbound is my number three. I'm not spending a lot of time on any of these because I don't want to five to one odds there this is like a Was like a pen national quality race. You're just looking at the Boca puke into it right but even with that said you didn't pick the worst relevant metric ring. Six is horse. Five silver splash inches. Any curb counts bringing the zero percent jockey. Rating is twenty to one horse battle against. Why even show up like you said? Let's just not wasting our second this race. Three seven what. We got their race seven moving along. Thank God I hope you save some for Ray seven because doubled at times too so eleven horses in this one forty eight rating five furlongs or five and a half furlongs Kim reports what it is but regardless I would go with his magnitude now granted. We don't like any of these sources but we are hoping that we can at least make a buck off. At least we'll game. They are complete trash. At least I'm pretty still trying to will. Rogers souls right still trying Magnitude I think. That's by far the best horse here in terms of meeting distance racing definitely up place in the top highest lifetime. It's number two but in terms of average over the last three. It's the top horse hour. We'RE GONNA go over to the eighth horse after that. The Bara fifteen to one odds I was looking for one that we can get some nice payout on if we did get a ticket ourselves a win here Debar. I think fifteen one odds that holds might make yourself pretty happy on a Monday. At the will rogers downs moving left to spots posse gone wild gone wild eight one odds on this horse And I also think that this one has a pretty good shot in this race. The three horses that I picked here Have some of the longest history in terms of racing? There's a bunch of on here that two three four races all garbage all trash probably race in sideways. The entire time I picked three here that had at least some sort of history and probably figure it out which way the finish line is. Three eight six is my pick for this eleven horse monstrosity. Raise seven metrics floors landry. Kyle in this is. There's nothing about horses interesting at all. But its introduction to Jockey Leandro de Goncalo. Vase who is possibly the new favorite name. The jockey wise my favor named Effort Leandro de Got Kelvin. Lace exit dog had Gone Cal's if Labor were here he would say it's gone cabs yet and that would be acceptable. Db As close as any of us get on this name. Those those rolls off the tongue so effortlessly leandro done gone. Kelly's anyway those last three races were brought to you by corona beer next. Let's go race. Eight eight Romo's done for seven horses. Yeah keeping again on Monday afternoon. With Corona Virus Gone Sweet Mariam Number. Two horse by far the favorite one point. Six to one odds. You're not gonNA get a strong pay out there but I am trying to pair that with something a little bit better here in Shanghai. Sally so goes sweet. Mary Shanghai Sally. Couple of lovely ladies to begin with. And then we swing back to one with Billie g ten to one odds. I'm hoping Billy Gee works her way into this Shanghai. Sally Sweet Mary Exact. Somehow for those ten to one odds to help you pay out so two three one. The first three horses. That's my box in the seven horserace. Billy Gee is just a girl who claims that. You're the one bad bad Michael Jackson reference for the kids out there who are less than forty Okay it's going to remember the next line but the child is not my son something like that. The kid the KID is not my son. Come on man snapshot While racing relevant metric number three Shanghai Sally there it is. I started down the path and then I thought better of it. It's too soon too soon. That after you're getting over Corona Yourself. Yeah covert victim cove in nineteen victim myself. Not GonNa McCoy blast away on Shanghai. Sally just yet. We're GONNA give that another week all right raise nine. We got got got the Zombie Empire maker broadcast on the other side here. So yeah that was Rakes race number nine final race? Ten horses where we're GONNA go here so one miler. I'm GonNa Start with Lucky Pete. By far I think Pete is the best bet in this race. A number of my formulas agree with me all the major formulas that. I looked to find that number one horse. Give me a fifty percent chance of putting that horse in the exact the box. My next couple Biz OPS. What you say about Biz ops ten to one odds the number one slot couple my formulas had this one is number one. A couple of adult is one of the worst horses. But I'M GONNA go with Biz OPS here. I think there's enough in here for me to pick this one away. I will say it's highest. Lifetime wasn't even on the map. Which tells me that it's highest lifetime. Race was probably eons ago. That said. I'm still feeling pretty confident about his ops here especially in the ten horse race number five six to one odds and PC narrow it. I'm pronouncing it properly but PC narrow even better now. The scenario is my third horse in here a lot of my formulas really stacked at the number two or three slot which is a good sign for filling out that exact the box and one of the better jockeys in the race. Probably one of the better jockeys in Oklahoma Ramos's is on this horse. Got a really good rating terms of median distance on the mile So there's your there's your race eight one five. That's what I'm betting for the race last relevant metric race nine or six envelope rock This is just to close out the trust of prophets episode. Seventeen with just looking for a getting back to life post corona virus as soon as possible where we can start worrying about things like Jim. The envel- Night Heart Smart Enough Co two killer. Burnsville cows out his explorer WWF. Matt that's what we're looking for in life again too much stress in the road right now. So W Rogers. Thanks for bringing a sleep to us on a on a Monday. Do we know if it's going to be a super bowl again tomorrow? Weiwei thing was thing was just a mud hut last week rain. Hail a long as it's not corona virus. I think we're GONNA be okay. Yeah they're passing it around with Sean Payton and the rest of saints handed out kids but shaken hands with half of the half the Derby contenders other. But not his fault rupture whatever. What else got closest thing outs? Vote got too long tonight. I'm just getting over that Ovid That was our last race. Think we I think we're looking forward to especially with but the state of things are in as long as we've got horse racing we're GONNA hit at least one race per week we did. We did that last week at even when you were out. We were filling it in with formula races. One one night or one a day and R- able to turn around a lot of picks. A lot of people responded to us. We love the interaction on. Facebook will be doing well. But we liked the picks. Hope you're profiting off of them. Which is most important and look forward to podcasts and again is getting closer and closer to the Derby even if it keeps pushing further and further out all right. That's all I got empire maker.

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Friday Four: NBA Draft Lottery

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Friday Four: NBA Draft Lottery

"The allocates. Get that. Motion walking out of the jam clear to us, the carton, this is disgusting. I win with the New York Jets. That here they are the Friday, four on outside the lines. And yes, the war. Yeah. Now up to zip on the blades are looking like three Peters, and yeah. The Bruins punch their ticket to the Stanley Cup finals both are worthy of big story today. But we've got an NBA draft lottery. Like we had this week, I on at stake that story takes the cake. So what surprised you the motor? Well, I think you have to pay Pat Riley. Right. Because you said, three peat isn't that? He's gonna come for his money. Don't worry about that. Surprise me the bonus the whole thing. I'm being serious here. The, the unhinged completely on more from reality of coverage and reaction in New York. It's like math does not exist in New York. My home city was like it was always fourteen percent. Fourteen percent six out of not get it. And then people go crazy. Patrick Ewing wasn't surprised to understand what was coming. How unlikely was Martina my college classmate by the way seem to understand? I I don't get it. How does anybody have the right to be upset when you only had a one at a seven chantey the first and this idea that always suffered so much because of all the suffering suddenly get thrown out the window. There was a sixty percent chance the Knicks weren't gonna get a top three pitch. She'd be very great. They deserve the same fix that was. Then when they got Ewing. Yes. I still it's so weird and it seems like we are living like a post reality universe where it doesn't make a difference. What the numbers are well to that point. I also think that there was a lot of narratives that were saying that, oh, r I p tanking. Look, the numbers pan out, and they show that there's no incentive for tanking. I don't know about that. They're still going to be an evolution of tanking purposeful tanking right? And what did the pelicans do this past year when they realized where they were Anthony Davis didn't play for the stretch down the end of the season and that put them in a position where they will one of the teams that was vying for that top pick. So while I understand that. They've like even the playing field a little bit. I still feel like teams are going to find a way down the stretch to put themselves in better position to get one of the top five picks up salute you're going to see it. Look, the grizzlies got the number two pick the Lakers, which also down the stretch brought shut it down. They got the number four pick. You're gonna have teams once they decide. Side. Okay. We're not making the playoffs. Now's the time to bench some of our starts and the teams that we really should be worried about taking are the pretty good teams that are on the bubble that could make the playoffs. And I think that look there wasn't a lot of talk about tanking down the stretch this year. The NBA the optics of it. They don't want us to talk about it. But I think we're now going to teams reaching become the pelicans that's going to be the standard do pelicans. How do you do that? Let's take a look this, how do you do that? When the odds stacked up like this. You have the three worst teams right there ending up with third fourth and fifth. And then you have some of the best teams in the lottery, take a look Lakers, pelicans and Grizz all moving up. So when you have that kind of situation, it's completely unpredictable. If you wanna take the problem is that we have. Unlike most of the rest of the world where we will ward ineptitude and we punish achievement. And that's the way that it works in our draft. We, we want paradise. We've had a ton of it. Right. One of the words and you know. Oh at Riley and. Doesn't seem to work very well in the NFL. I mean how many do the patriots win? I mean that's the point. But promotion and relegation. No, it's never gonna happen. It's ridiculous. That's the system we need. We live in a country in which we care about winning. And we should reward it rather than punishing go the rich get richer. That's how he likes how. All right. Let's talk about the baller of the week and I don't mean ball. I mean, Waller Texas. They of after the game emotional walking out of the jam Nessim pain that is not going to leave Joel and be for a very long time. Alone. Oh, it's like an after school special. Was represents positive change because he cried and we embraced him for you. Remember when Mike Schmidt, your childhood hero from? Whatever. And you know, he weaned inside. He was made fun of he was mocked. He was derided. He was scolded today. We understand that it's okay for athletes, it matters to them. Anything that's important. You're going to have an emotional investment, too. I do like that. He did it in the hallway with open. But I like even better than he changed. His Twitter picture to him crying. It's right. You know, we learned here this is what Philly already knows everybody in Philadelphia. It's all right to cry crying takes the sat out of you. Right to cry. It might make. Wise words. We love about MBA. He's authentic. He is who he is. And he made no apologies for it cried on the court cried on the hallway, it's great. But you're right. Thirty years ago. There would be a lot of booing for that. You know, he was taking the task often for having all those our displays of emotion, and he said he plays the game. He mostly likes to have fun. I think this proved that he really just kind of really does let it all hang out on the court. It's like a nine hundred remember. Yeah. Nineteen ninety-three. I remember what a moment that was. Hey, yes. Okay. Can we talk about another big moment this, this week? The hand pass of the week now this one really takes the cake. Take a look at this. Can we? Meyer, the book that why Meyer sense, Mike with Eric? There that get away. And it is a search by four win. But the blues are protesting. No, they did not call a hand pass here folks. They did not call a hand pass, nobody called it wasn't blown dead. They can't call this back. This cannot be challenged his game is over that tells you everything you need to know about that team Omar hand past air Carlson for the game winner in game three instant replay instant replay. I just have this question. I know everybody's saying, well we gotta change the rules. How many times are we going to change the rules when there's a call that people don't like are we just going to keep doing? It depends. Are you supposed to get it right? Well, but is the Hct? Are you like Jared human era? There's a part of that race human error. Look, as I do as well. If Diego Maradonna interior, Honorine important moments in soccer particular where hands were used illegally of look. Are we going to we had the technology natch? Creek, everything. That's wrong. We have to decide in each sport has to decide for it self. Is it worth it? Where are we going to draw the lines is are we are we committed to being right or to being human, and there should be a rule that if four referees all get it wrong, then you need to have that play review -able? I mean it's just incredible that four referees miss that and I love how quickly the blues of the shark Scott off the ice. Okay. It's on good works out, Sean Payton online. Most. All right. We'll coming up a horse is suing and no it's not. Mr. Ed, by the way, we're talking about the jets, which means Mr. shaft is just getting warmed up under reported stories and Jeremy uncensored Shabina wrap. Puck can't wait. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance. Because home is more than just a place. Home is where you have a cute little reading for those rainy days, when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read so you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through memes on your phone, and laugh in the darkness. The guy co insurance agency could help protect the dark mean filled corner, you call home. Call gyco and see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance. Outside the lines is brought to you by state farm chunk to an agent today and eight hundred state far. There is a major development in a story involving Ohio State this morning. The university released a report detailing at least one hundred seventy seven claims of sexual abuse, some of which included male student athletes in sixteen different sports by now, deceased athletic department, director, Richard Strauss. The report concluded the school personnel knew about the complaints as early as the first year of Strauss's nearly two decade tenure but didn't act today school president, Michael Drake offered, quote, profound regret and sincere apologies to each person who endured Strauss's abuse. All right. Let's move to under reported stories and let's start with a horse that won the Kentucky Derby, excuse me, finished seven. That's right. Max maximum securities owners, Gary and Mary west have filed the lawsuit in federal court seeking to overturn steward's decision that disqualified maximum security. They claim that the decision made by the stewards was bizarre and unconstitutional. They're challenging the Kentucky horse racing commission. This has no chance of winning. Absolutely no chance. They're doing it, though. Why? Stud fee. I mean, that's the whole thing that's the that's about the forget winning the derby, forget about that title. It's if I can get that behind my name, how much more money today, they make this a we should have, we should have odds on this. And if we do it'll be a thousand to one I have no chance of federal court overturning this decision it was clear. Look, if this happened at the fifth race at Akwa docked a horse going across. Several of the horses the way maximum security. Did we would see a disqualification the stuarts were courageous in making this decision? And also, it could have been a huge disaster. If these horses fell it's been a tough year, obviously, for horse racing with two dozen deaths at Santa Anita. So I just I see this, having absolutely no show racing doesn't need this right now, doesn't need this. No. And of course, top four horses from derby are not going to be in the Preakness, so not a good look right now for horse racing. All right. Let's talk about a Nike athlete. All right. So Nike has been bringing lately guys with some of their ads that are trying to empower women. I'm sure you've seen the Serena ads saying do things that are crazy. And on mother's day they rolled out another one that was telling young girls that they should follow their dreams will several athletes are calling Bs on that rhetoric saying that because of their status as runners and their choice to be mothers. Nike has really neglected that I'm talking about Lisa Montano and CARA Gaucho two runners elite runners, who also happen to be moms. They wrote a New York Times, op Ed. Ed coming forward with details about how Nike and the US Olympic Committee and the USA track and field organization. Penalized female athletes for becoming moms. You're seeing Lisa. They're running when she was eight months pregnant it made national, and international news. She did that essentially guys because otherwise, these companies are cutting their contracts, cutting their pay and sometimes also cutting their health insurance. So it's just unbelievable. That this is kind of gone unreported some of the issues that women have to face if they choose to be elite athletes who also want to have what an opportunity for them to be on the right side of that discussion by promoting these athletes. Well, Nike says that this is a common practice in their industry will, but what baffles me is Nike claims to be a leader in the industry. If you are then changed the status quo. You don't have to follow it. They make this point about them be independent contractors. So they don't have to give them all these benefits, but as you say, Nike should be a trailblazer on this and need to step up. There is a company. Burton, Burton snowboards that has already come out and said, based on this op Ed, we have made major changes to the way that we handle our female athletes. Another under reported story. It involves an athlete in college in your memory talk about change, the NCAA changed the rules recently to ease transfers kids want to transfer from school to school. It's a lot easier now but there's an athlete James Hudson used to play at Michigan offensive tackle transferred to Cincinnati wanted to get that waiver. So he doesn't have to sit out a year denied he later has said that he made a mistake by not bringing up some of the mental health issues. He suffers from thinking that, if he would have done that he might have gotten that waiver. But the bigger issue here is that the NCAA has been touting this idea that we are now supporting the athletes, letting them transfer not putting up those walls, and yet the transfer process seems to be becoming a little bit arbitrary some guys, no problem this young man feels like to talk about issues that are private dam in order to get that transfer. What are we forcing these athletes to do? We forcing them to be in a position where they have to say anything to get out of the school, so they can keep playing and. And continued doing what they wanna do. It's just a disaster. And the transfer system isn't something that's always been in place. I mean generations ago you could pretty much go in. Right. Go as you please free agent friendly reminder coaches still can right? Thank you. All right. It is time, ladies and gentleman, for Jeremy shop to wax philosophical, we call it the shepherd look, I mean, I am definitely couple days behind, but this is a theme. So after this week with the genitive rep, let's talk about the jets. All right. I like talking about the jets because they make it so easy. That's really the point firing their general manager after allowing him to spend tens of billions one hundred twenty million dollars in the free agency period after allowing him to run their draft in which they had high picks doing it now it just smacks of the jets doing business as usual in their organization. It we can we can certainly say this general manager. In fact, didn't deserve to have his job at this point. But that is the same case you would have made before all of these things happen last few months. The timing doesn't make any sense, people within the organization, people outside of the organization. People used to be an organization said what? The heck is going on. Look, I'm almost fifty years old. I'm going to be fifty in August in my lifetime. The New York Jets have never won their conference. Okay. Other old, New York. Giants it in the Super Bowl five times the Mets have been in the World Series five times. The Yankees have been in the World Series eleven times in New York. We expect we don't speak you to win it every year. But we expect you to at least have an organization that knows how to compete. It's the greatest city in the world. In the jets are out of the juices after five decades, it's over this. It's not just about maybe the sense of being the right decision. Get rid of him at this point. But. But. Earlier, they could have done this month. They could have solved whatever the. Absolutely. Absolutely. To Sandoval, mockery, absolutely. The case. We'll be right back. Bring hill. Chea. Video of him at the end of. Or do you have more supposing, okay kept it started? All right. Let's talk billons dunk starting with cough. Villain of the moment. I say the PG listen, I heard guys on sportscenter earlier today, talking about the difficulty of driving back, paid black, and they want talking. Ride a golf cart for the first two rounds he has now will not make the cut. So we won't be subjected to this over the weekend, eleven over poor, that he has our three dick knees. Maybe it's just the one I'm not sure, but they are allowing him to use the cart, which I think is just the spectacle, isn't walking, the course part of the requirement for plays golf smoking cigarettes. That, that was, of course, as we know, link, the subject of lengthy case, Casey Morton, it was years ago. It was determined that no. You know, it's not fundamental. That's why Casey Martin was allowed to play questions, you would be this. Once you have this allowance made shouldn't there be then some respect for everything else? I mean he's got the McDonalds Cup hanging out the super size hanging out in the Cup holder. The Marlboro reds hanging from his lip. It just seems like making a mockery of the whole thing. Janki is that so bad in a sport that is so buttoned up oftentimes people say, what am I watching just bunch of steps playing golf? I mean character there is an audio meek. There's absolutely. By that argument. But not in the first major after tiger won the masters. It's not like we're. Reverence for golf that everybody seems and I'm not saying that's completely what Adam saying we aren't an era of people trying to loosen things up a little bit. And in a way, look at how much people are talking about John Daly, a long way. There's a spectrum right? How far on the spectrum are we willing to go here? I get this ticket clan. I wanna know what's in the McDonalds Cup allegedly code. He does vodka. I know he's a crown Royal man, there could be anything instead allowed. I don't think so. No. Follow. Do you think they're gonna do you think they're gonna keep expanding this rule so that other people will be able to ride in the car too? I mean that's to me. It's exactly once you've opened the door you pay for tiger needs. It then they'll probably, he's an supply heart. He's applied to use a cart in the British Open. He hasn't heard daily has, and we'll see what happens. I have a feeling he's not going to get that permission. Okay. Speaking of seeing what happens another villain. Here, both U N me is the NCAA and look at maybe not. But the NCAA came out with an ounce this week saying that they are starting a working group. Follow me here to consider compensation for college players for the use of their name, likeness, and images. Look at all those hedging words, and by the way, they made sure to say compensation doesn't include payment include here that's hard. So I mean what are you? The other factor here is remembered they've been considering this for decades. I don't know. I mean what are we really saying to escrow is going to be paid out at the time? They're not gonna phase render. Maybe you're talking about a birthday cake, or a hamburger or a sex like that's the point. Exactly the combination in lieu of payment was scholarship. What else the issue here is that it's clear as mud, right? They aren't being clear about what they're going to go just talking about considering something that people have been saying they need to have implemented years ago, these kids should be able to monetize their name and likeness, if the universities are able to and for a long time video games were able to. It's a way to basically try to just get the issue off the table and kick the can down the road and nothing will ever come I use with my husband asked me something to happen. I think that's a good idea. We should talk about better than we never did. What time is watching because I feel like that's been done too many times. All right. Let's talk heroes. How about it? Okay. And let us start with I just love his video. Jen, takeaway. All right. So this is five year old Phoenix. You probably saw this. It's been making the rounds. He was trying to kick the board break the board over and over again. It happened it took a long time for him to do a guys. And we cut the video, obviously there. But the good news was his, his like six his teammates gathered around him. They were chanting name, the coaches were encouraging him. He got very emotional when he was crying, and then he was able to break the board. It was another. The power of practice did suit again. Here we go getting up sand so cute. Telling him you just hit it with your heel. He did it. So again, a reminder, never give up up salute, okay? Dumb my hero. This week is NBA photographer. Mark Lynch who took than unbelievable picture here. It is for my money. It's one of the greatest sports photos of all time, they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. This picture is worth a thousand means look at all of those faces in that photograph there were a lot of great pictures taken, of course, is great buzzer beater, but for my money, this is the greatest one hovering above the court like tomcats twitted, it appears like exactly a drone or so there for a while. Oh, I see make why. They're having a Cup of coffee waiting outcome of the shot. You know, I, I was going to do a hero and producers up there. We can skip mine. I was going to do a hero that involves some great engagement photos. But instead, I wanna give some credit to young man that we've had working with us for a while. Name is NICKY. Atkin foru-, and he has been one of the greatest content associates, we've ever had folks, you ever watch this show, the video that you see so much of what you see on TV the video, you see up top. He cuts that so many of our content associates, put this stuff together, the make the show great. And he's been one of the best we've ever had a stellar content associate stellar idea generator, he is, and even better personality leaving us. Thank you for being with us. And he's leaving us for greener pastures. You're proud of my hero to why we got some here. We'll see next week.

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11 Trivia Questions on Monopoly

Trivia With Budds

16:47 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Monopoly

"It's eleven trivia questions and the board game Napoli recorded live at last name brewing and upland California with my friends Spencer coachee, this is trivial with butts. It be and welcome to another episode of the trivia, it would buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan buds. And I'm here on location at my longest running trivia venue in southern California. It's called last name during one of my favorite places to hang out have a beer talk to a buddy or new buddy and just shoot the breeze. It's always a good time here and speak to breeze. They just opened this big back door and other two big nice breeze coming in here on a California night and by big easy sandwich. I wanna give them a shadow big easy, sandwich dot com. If you wanna check out their menu. They are crafting New Orleans food to California taste as it says in the slogan on their truck, and they're found here every day last name brewing and then for special catering events around southern California. They make amazing pulled pork tacos and onion rings and beer bites and grilled fish tacos, and burgers, and you name it. They make the best version of it. They have this keeps Jami sandwich. It's the best thing I ever had. And they are happy to spice things up. Like, they'll be like, hey, how about you? Try bacon on your grill fish taco. Yeah. How about we do that? So they're always down to cater events here and cater to events here. In the form of our big Harry Potter trivia night coming up on may thirty first they're going to have a Harry Potter themed menu. They'll have stuff like I'm gonna voldemort fries or the fry the burger who shall not be named or something like that they like to do that. And then they kind of designed the menu LCD screen to look like Harry Potter stuff. We've done it before with marvel and Disney and Star Wars and sitcoms and things like that. So it should be a good time. If you're in this area and get tickets in the top of my website could attribute buds dot com. Click the Bakary Potter banner, and we already have ten tickets tents tickets sold over a month early which is pretty sweet, I usually don't even put the event up this early. But I was like, yeah. Let's try it. And so far so good people seem to keep finding the flyers that I'm leaving here at the venue and keep seeing the posts on social media. If you want to follow me on social media, go to. Ryan buds on just about everything Twitter, Facebook Instagram and shadow to anybody who's liked my Facebook page, I was at nine ninety. And I said, let's get this thing up two thousand. So I shared the page in we're at like one thousand three or something. So thank you so much for like in the page. And maybe we'll see some updates there that you wouldn't have seen otherwise, maybe when you get a thousand likes it puts into something more than three people, see your posts. But probably not if I know Mark Zuckerberg, probably I have a fun episode for you today. I sit down with Spencer coachie who runs events here and his dad runs a very cool. Toy factory in Laverne, California. If we're about a bendable toy there's a good chance that it might have come from Jake Roach choice. They do Gumby Betty boop ninja turtles, I think. Scooby doo Mr. bean, just tons of different bendable lot Batman lot of DC heroes and things like that. So if you have a bendable product in the package still look at the back of the package and Sivas and j Croce Laverne California because that's my friend's dad. You're going to hear from today. And he gives me a lot of cool stuff to give away his trivia prizes. So thank you to Jake Roggio choice. Thanks spencer. And last name brewing for always hosting me. Here we're going to jump into eleven questions on monopoly. Hopefully, you love the board game and -opoly or you hate it. And you can get through this episode and learn some things about it that you didn't know or to jump to those eleven questions right now. Here we go. Sit here and one of my favorite places to host trivia and have a beer last name brewing, upland, California with my friends, Spencer coaching. What's up Spencer? Hey, you know, let's just get along day. You're just about done. What is your regular work hours nine five nine five sometimes later, sometimes earlier, very, very cool. What is your job title here at the brewery? I am the marketing events coordinator, very very high flute and stuff if you see rampage. I apologize. Spencer is my go-to guy. If we're going to do a special event here like we're doing on may thirty first big Harry Potter trivia night. Ten tickets sold like over a month early. Awesome. Essentially sweet last time we did a big ticket event. It was sitcom trivia, and I want to say we had seventy tickets sold seventy players and before that we had Disney marvel Star Wars we had one hundred and five to get. So we had addicts tables and stuff. So I'm kinda hoping for that I experience for this Harry Potter show. And I feel like we're on the way because we're a month early. And we got some people who are very interested in reading awesome, such are you Harry Potter guy yourself. I was I was actually camp of while those one of those kids whose mom didn't. I wasn't loved to read Harry Potter. She thought it was it was definitely witchcraft. My mom was like that with guns dragons, I mentioned that she was like, oh, no those kids burn animals alive. You're not. You're not doing that. I've never all things. I've never actually I've never seen. I've never seen a burn animal, but I've never seen. Not burn exactly. Avoid ROY such and we could think dungeons and dragons for all the D players out there burning animals here in buds is not happy with you. We are sitting here today. I had to pick up some stuff drop off some stuff. And I said, let's do a quick podcast. And I just kind of went on my phone clicked in a folder that said November two thousand seventeen and I read you a few topics and you said how about that one? And the topic you picked was monopoly. So do an episode on monopoly. How do you feel you're gonna do out of eleven questions monopoly? Well, if it's like if it's like any other game ever played hopeless friends at the end of it. Yes. And I should mention that this will be six days long this podcast. Just like a game of monopoly will be own hundreds of hours in the making sit buckle up. Here we go foods here. So we'll be good. All right question. Number one. We're gonna see how many you get out of eleven. Remember one what color are houses in traditional monopoly? The houses put on the properties. What color are those green? The answer is green. You got it. Are you guys that plays a lot of monopoly? You hate it. Or you love it. I have a love hate relationship with it. Yep. Sometimes I depend on the people though. So most people hate it. And most people don't know how to play correctly. I there is a way to play where you can win every time. Really, there's some someone figured out. And it's just yeah. It's brutal. Let me ask you this. When you're playing appleaday you put in the five hundred dollar Bill in the middle and free parking. You get it that way. I've never played that way. That's like that's like a little spice it up kind of way. Where it's like. Ooh, I got like five hundred extra dollars that landed on free park. Yeah. That's the only way I like to play with little perks and things you also like to do this thing where I hide my money off to the side. So when somebody's like, you're bankrupt. Mike, and then I pull like four hundred bucks. That's a nice strategy. Number two. What is the first railroad? You can land on after go going around the board. He go start on goad. What's that? First railroad called is total ones. Is it reading railroad's? It is reading railroad. Nice job. Dude sounds like something from reading rainbow. Did you watch that grownup did PBS? Lamar Burton Burton said his name. I think so guy from Star Trek. Were the very thin visor. He used to host this kid show and start off with the words butterfly in the sky, and it was like take a look at a book reading rainbow. I feel like the reading railroad would be part of that show. Here's number three. What is the initial rent when you went on boardwalk with no houses or hotels? It is the highest Renton the game, which is it when you land on it without anything without a hotel without anything on. I want to say it's say, I think it's a hundred dollars. It's in the neighborhood of a hundred dollars dollars is incorrect having fifty dollars dollars places thirty five those are the two highest rents in the biz park place and boardwalk number four in what color property, would you find Marvin gardens and what property set or would you find Marvin gardens or endured? Sits on the edge of the it's gonna be there. They're all. They are on the edge of the board. In the center. Islands. Like I've been playing wrong. My entire. That'll be kind of cool if they had like a bridge bridge version, we can go from one side of the board of the other. That'd make a lot safer. We need to call. These Pirker brothers. I got an idea. I think the others are dead. They're dead yet. I think Marvin gardens I wanna say yellow. The yellow gone it. We're going to. Oh and blue as a yellow or purple is my second God's not blue though, because that's that is boardwalk and then light blue oriental and. Properties the very beginning. The three balloons. Yeah. Randall avenue, and I forget the other names. But they're right at the beginning, those are white bloop. Yes. You're right with yellow nice shot Spencer only missed one. So far you doing great number five. What happens if you roll doubles three times, you go to jail obvious, obviously, go to jail put the witch in jail that's pure witchcraft again with burning animals that has. Harry potter. Yeah. If you cover you get a little dark arts in you. You know what I mean? Definitely number six how much does it cost to purchase electric company? Okay. Purchasing lecture company blue tilde, it's on as I don't think. So this is the one where you roll the die to pay the rent. It's one or ten times or something like four ten times actually, pay my electric, Bill usually. Yeah. Just roll the dice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how much it costs to purchase that property? This is one of the edge properties. That does help. I think I believe that one was I'm going to really aggressive stab hundred thirty five one fifty very close so close one thirty five is a good gas one fifty the answer number seven for monopoly. What color is the car on the free parking space? There's a car in the picture of his word. Because it's a it's a red and white. But is it red on white or white on looking for red got I'm gonna count it? Yeah. You have mostly a red car by some white in there. But read it was what I was looking for number eight, the purple properties consist of Mediterranean, and what other property properties consist of Mediterranean, and what else Mediterranean. These are the ones that are like sixty bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Mediterr-? 'cause that's that has this one of the only ones is to properties the whole sweet. And it was Mediterranean, and I think it's just boardwalk and park place in this other set. Oh, yeah. Yes. What's Mediterranean, Mediterranean and? I can't think of Celtic Baltic Baltic like the island number nine. What's the largest denomination of Bill in the game? It is a five hundred dollar Bill Bill. I said we used to do for free parking. If you land on it. Nice job and number ten what is the setting of the younger player game monopoly junior. The original map junior has not you're not buying. You're not buying properties. A different type of are you? I've never played monopoly junior shock you. I'm I'm old enough to play. I should ask think I'm tool to play monopoly junior. Or also, your mom does not allow that would definitely will he'll never enter my house with a Harry Potter book. Harry, Harry Potter turns into a witch monopoly junior. Definitely turns you into a communist. Oh, yeah. Definitely play that. I'm gonna. It's either going to be a school or a playground. So I'm gonna go playground. Just two great gas. And it would be make sense. Like you're like maybe buying the rides yet. The playground similar. It's a carnival actually believe it's boardwalk believe you're at the boardwalk like you're playing I don't know if you're buying tickets to get on the rides of your buying the rides the same premise yet. But everything's like one two and three dollars. So yeah. And instead of like instead of buying hotels. How are you improving? Your oh you still by hotel? There is some sort of way. I think there's only one thing. I don't think you buy like hotels and houses there's one way to elevate property to the rides. I could be wrong. But I used to play this all the time at my friend Steve Nelson's house grownup shot at the Steve fees listening. He's been show before high state. He was actually here for the Mario cartel a couple months ago last question the two bonus point question if we're playing along live trivia night, which two of these pieces were not in the original game. We're talking pieces that you play with. We've got the car. The iron a chess piece, the lantern symbol shoe top hat, harmonica and rocking horse. Two of those were not in the original game read them again car iron chess piece lantern thimble to top hat, her Monica and rocking horse the original game. Yes was missing two of those. What do you think? Okay. I think it was missing. I want to say. Top hat and. Top hat and rocking horse. Chesapeake and harmonica, which were added later version in the game, but no chess fees. No harmonica. The original one hats been around forever in the rocking horse has been in there. A long time. I don't know if it's still in there. I feel like I haven't seen it in a long time. But maybe one out. Yeah, they might have taken a few out here, and there, I know the added a cat recently. Yeah. I think they were like most of the people on this game have a cat. We got to put a cat. But that was your monopoly quiz. I think you only miss that won miss carnival. Baltic and you missed one thirty. You gotta half of these. Right. All right. I'd say about sixty percent. That's that's that that might not Kasich loss. They'll give through trivia perfect sense. When you're not working events your last name brewing. Your very great photographer. You did all my new motion shots for my website. So if you're listening you've been to trivia, buds dot com and equal picture me. And a dog or me holding bingo, Dave or me with my hands in the side of my face. Like, I'm home alone are all courtesy of Spencer coachee, and where can people find you? If they wanna see more your photography book you for a game. If they want to see more my toffee orbiting forbid gig. They can go to my website as Spencer Crowe, C dot com. Just S P E N C C E R CRO see on my last name is just like Jim crow coachee though. I don't know who he is at just people talk to me about very good you pronounce a crow C approaching. Yes. Very good. And I wasn't wrong. No. You're not wrong. I don't call you Spencer Potter your mobile, not or who's the Weasley. I'm not. Red hair. Like, you could be another like seventies. Could be I have addressed. Is that for Halloween vary? Perfect. All right. Thank you Spencer. And we'll talk to you. Thank you. Boom there. It was a fun episode with Spencer Spencer, thanks for taking the time to do that. And if you need a photographer look into having Spencer, take some shots for you. Again, if you wanna see samples of his work, go to my website trivia, buds dot com, pretty much every high reds picture on the website all the different headers at the top of the different pages where it says like who is buds. How does this work yelp reviews in clients all the different sections at the top. If you click on those you'll see a new hi rez picture at the top of each one. And they were all taken by Spencer edited and buffed out and all that stuff. So check those out at trivia with buds dot com. If there's a board game you trivia on just send me an Email. Ryan buds gmaiLcom if you want me to do like a scrabble episode or maybe a banana grams episode or maybe you like dungeons and dragons like we talked about on this episode. I try and work it in for you. And it could be fun. I just can't tell my mom about it. So let me know. And if you want to guarantee that I get to your topic, go to patriot dot com slash trivia with buds and donate five dollars or more monthly to pick a top. That I'm bound to do which is very very cool. Thank you guys so much for listening. Thanks for telling a friend about this show and we'll see tomorrow more trivia with buds. Cheers.

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MBA1517 How To Move From Working In Your Business to Working On Your Business + Free Ride Friday

The $100 MBA Show

15:38 min | 10 months ago

MBA1517 How To Move From Working In Your Business to Working On Your Business + Free Ride Friday

"Hey today's free right Friday so make sure you hang onto the end of the episode here. Who won this week's free ride every Friday? We give away a lifetime membership to one of our programs. We're giving away easy course Arthur today how to build your own online course. It retails for five hundred dollars over easy course dot co- or you can win it for free. Just leave us an items rating in review. Then you enter our weekly random draw. We call free right Friday listening on Friday to see if you want. It's that simple. It's our way to say. Thanks for showing love nineteenth. Our I list Jehovah's Today's episode. Oh welcome to the one hundred dollars. The business podcast gives you what you need to build a business. You want every day with our daily ten minute lessons for the real world. I'm your host your coach. Your teacher Omar's at home. Also the CO founder of the Hundred Dollar Mba a couple of business training and community online. And today's episode. You will learn how to move from working in your business to on your business. This is one of the most challenging transitions. Any entrepreneur can make in the beginning bootstrapping. Your Business you're working on things you're building things you're doing all the dirty work at the start. You're pretty much doing every. Single Salinas are hiring and delegating tasks but often we never make the full switch from working in our business to on our business as the leader of your company. Your job is to make decisions to steer the ship and do the essential work as a leader. That any other person can't do you need to fill that role. Everything else can be hired for often. We don't make time for leadership because we're working in our business too much or too busy with tasks and it's usually tests that we feel most comfortable with or in our area of expertise whether that sales or marketing or web design so in today's episode. We're going to talk about how to make that transition to make sure that the day to day tasks that keep your business. Running is done by employees by team members by people that you hire freeing you up to lead into grow your business as a founder. So let's get into it. Let's get down to business support for today's show comes from our very own. Webinar Ninja looking for women platform to host. You're alive tutorials classes or special events. Feel like you're stuck on a never ending journey to find that perfect webinar software. That's not going to break the bank. We get it. That's why we created Webinar Ninja. An all in one webinar software. That allows you to host live automated hybrid series webinars all in one place whether earnings also has built in tools for marketing and selling your digital products during and after your Webinar. Whether you're doing a live course muscles Webinar or building. Your email list with automated webinars. 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Your time is three to be used any way you feel or how other people feel so. Your county needs to be filled with tasks that you should be doing as a leader as the founder of the company the CEO as whoever is actually steering your team so your job as the leader is to lead is to manage is to motivate is to build for the future is to have your vision and to also communicate that vision on a regular basis to make sure your team is actually getting better in terms of talent. And of course that your overall growth financially and in terms of your market share is trending upwards. This is your job as a leader. Okay as much as you want to fiddle with your website or answer. Customer service tickets. Those are really not in your job description now. That doesn't say that you don't do any customer service tickets ever just means that your sponsor bility's are not customer service tickets by jumping customer service conversations from time to time once a week once a month and just get a pulse of what's going on answer some questions to try to see what's going there and that's okay but. I'm not responsible for doing that if I don't do that There somebody in place to make sure that it's done now. There's one exception in terms of responsibilities. You should have one area of expertise that you may want to contribute to on a regular basis. Now you might be the brand of the business. The face of the business so doing interviews doing marketing. Maybe you are host of a podcast. The point here is that you are the face of the brand and you are contributing to the business in your special area of expertise that no one else does. For example. If you've got reed hastings who's the CEO and founder of Netflix? He does a lot of interviews. He's on talk shows he meets with innovation leaders so this is his area of expertise the communicator of the business so outside of leadership also doing that stuff so your calendar should be filled with activities that fulfil that role. This means you're carving out a job description for yourself. You're carving out a set of responsibilities of things that you need to do and measure your performance against yet. You GotTa make sure that you're performing to not just your team members so save for example. I say to myself part of my job as a leader is to build a great team that understands our vision of their motivated. But if I look at the last few years of my business and I have a lot of turnover and not. Many people have stayed in my company. More than a year I'm not doing a good job I need to make sure that whatever I give myself. I'm actually measuring myself against this. I know that. Hey I'm actually doing these duties that I put on myself if I'm not performing that means I'm in the duties and then I need to spend more time on those things so this is why you need to kind of make a job description for his list your responsibilities. I named a few today's episode and then I need to say what kind of tasks do I need to do to fulfill these responsibilities than those tests? Go in my calendar and I literally mean making boxes on your calendar Monday through Friday with tasks to do to fulfil your job description. But you might be saying Omar I have things I need to do the day to day the business and I don't have anybody to do them and they're not necessarily part of my role. What do I do well number one? You need to have an action plan to hire for those jobs. Whether it's one person or two or three people you can split those responsibilities if you can't afford a higher fulltime higher make sure you make a part-time higher or a freelancer just because you can't take all the things off your plate doesn't mean you can't take some some is GonNa help you perform better. Okay if you can't afford anything at all which is a reality. Sometimes when you're starting out then you need to plan out. When will you be able to afford? Don't just say I can't afford it. That's not gonNA think about that anymore. No we're are your profits going. When are you going to get to the point of you? Can AFFORD THIS POINT? What month look at the trends of your profits of your growth and Pencil that into your calendar. I need to start hiring for somebody a month before we can afford to that. Hey I can go ahead and make that higher when we can't afford it if you're still a little bit confused about like hey we should really be doing look at some. Ceo Some founders. That you really admire and see. What do they work on? What did they work on when they were a CEO's our founders and they don't have to be in big name companies they could be people that maybe are just a few years ahead of you small startups people that you know in in An AMIGA he can call them up as A. Hey tell me about your day tell me we responsibilities are love to be in your position. Sometime soon. It's always good to have some examples to work off so you can carve your own job description but of course you can look at your heroes. The big time CEOS who heard of jobs for example he was a big time leader. Here's the communicator. Of the business. But he also had his finger on the pulse when it comes to product He didn't create all the products or design them but he had a say in what they worked on. And what would work on next to? Who's kind of the visionary and the communicator of the business? If you look at the late j carpenter who is the founder of Burton Burton boards? He was a longtime snowboarder and even though he grew his company to a massive size with hundreds upon hundreds of employees he still was involved in the culture of snowboarding. So maybe he didn't try every snowboard. They created but had a singer on the pulse on the trends. He was very much big on supporting stubborn competitions. And who is a big part of some of the snowboarding teams that competed in the Olympics? Because in a way. He created snowboarding culture with Burton. So on top of his leadership skills he just also had this little air of expertise that he was a part of. So you can take a look at your heroes as well now. The key to this is once you have your description and you have your calendar and you have everything filled out. Is that you stick to it. You don't fall behind or fall back on old habits and one of the best ways to make sure that has happened is have some accountability and to have a mastermind group to help you with that. Master migrants are great because it allows you to hold each other accountable and it could be a group of three or four five people. Usually these are five You know entrepreneurs that are in the same kind of a stage in their journey as an entrepreneur the regular basis whether it's once a month or maybe even once a week some people meet that often and they hold each other accountable with what they're doing in their tasks and The challenges they're going through and that way when you face your mastermind group every month or so you can either feel good about what you've done or you can feel like wow. I got improve. I'm falling back on old habits and they can hold you accountable and you could tell them. Hey let me put my feet to the fire. Make sure that I actually do the things I set out to do. As the leader of my company. Also find things that motivate you to stick with. It could be something like understanding that I need to be there for. My team team needs me. I don't WanNa let them down. And if I'm a good leader of a good manager if I steer this business in the right direction it benefits everybody the counting on me. I gotTa make sure I do that. You can literally put a posted. No on your modern say might team is counting on me and that can just motivate you to stick to your plan sick to your job description. Guys got more on today's topic but before that let me give love to. Today's sponsor support for today's show comes from podium are looking to put together and sell an online course a downloadable of some kind or start a membership site one of the biggest challenges in doing that is the technology. How do you put together your sales pages in your course pages to make sure accesses secure collect payment? There's so many complications and there's so many complicated options out there. This is why we love podium. Podium is the easiest way to sell any kind of online course downloadable or start selling aimed membership. 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So why not get those people who do for me and I can focus on the things that only I can do. Which is the leadership. Which is the vision which is growing the team which is making sure going in the right direction. All that stuff and that's plenty okay. Part of the reason management C. Level people in big corporation gets paid. Big Bucks is because of the responsibility because of the pressure because of you know to be quite honest the stress and the time in the space to make the right decisions when they're so high stakes especially 'cause you're making big decisions as the leader. I hope the help center hope you enjoy today's episode potatoes episodes on over because it's free right. Friday. Let's see who want this week's free ride and the winner is Teri and fair. Hope Terry and I hope says awesome five stars. I loved her interview with John Lee Dumas. Focus and Opie a awesome. What a great teacher will thank you for that. Awesome Review Terry from fair. 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Freeing the two Michaels

The Current

25:56 min | 8 months ago

Freeing the two Michaels

"The theatres have closed, but the show look on, play me. PODCAST is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of North America's most acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit Back and experience. From chilling thrillers to Gut wrenching dramas to arriver in comedies each month, experience, the exhilaration of theatre from the comfort of your own home. Plenty available wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC podcast. After he was detained by the Chinese government a year and a half ago, Canadian Michael Calvary was allowed to send letters home usually about once a month, including this one last July to his wife, Veena Najibullah. If there's one faint silver lining to this hell. It's this trauma carved caverns of psychological pain through my mind is I strive to heal and recover I find myself filling those golfs with a love for you and for life that has vast, deep and more profound and comforting than what I've ever experienced before. So as I sit here tonight, US remaining in the silence as I walk in circles, pollution, clogging my nose come, sit with me and walk with me, and spirit helped me feel less isolated. Let me share the love I. Have for you and we'll get through this together. Laugh Michael. Vienna Chiba reading a letter Michael Coverage Center last July during the entire time. That cover has been detained in China along with fellow Canadian. For their families have been silent for five hundred sixty two days working behind the scenes to try to get their release now Vena knowledgeable has decided. It's time for everyone to hear her voice and this week. She sat down with the Nationals Adrienne Arsenault. Adrian, good morning morning that. Why did Vena Najibullah decide that now was the time to speak out. Well you know. She certainly didn't wake up suddenly and decide. You know this is what I'm going to do today. She has been holding tight and wing this decision for a very long time. She and I have been talking about the prospect of an interview for three or four months now and always for her. The calculation has been what is the risk. If, I say something. How would affect Michael if I don't say something how effect might go multifamily Michael's father, his sister be be cut off from MC communication with the government. And always there were these pauses where she'd say you know. Wait a minute. I have a little bit of hope. Maybe the court case will go. Mum. WanNa Joe's way maybe the as a gesture Chinese were released the Michaels, and then that didn't happen will maybe they won't be charged and they'll come home. That didn't happen. They were charged and I think I. Think what it came down to that. It came to a point where Vena and. And Michael's Dad, his sister said look. We've respected this process enough. The government had I suppose suggested they keep it out of the media and they did that for a long time, and the effect of that in their minds was that in the end there was no urgency. No one was realizing the agony. These families are under and to hear. People occasionally refer casually to the two michaels just becoming so dehumanizing. They had to do something. We've talked about these two men for five hundred sixty two days Let's have a listen to some of your conversation with Vienna Najibullah. Here is describing the kind of person that Michael Coverage Is. He is one of the strongest most determined people ever met and for the last five hundred sixty days, and especially in the last. Few months before the concert has stopped, his letters were testament to that like his character was coming through. Very clearly, his resilience, his determination, his sense of purpose in life. He's someone who's devoted his life to public service. He wants to make the world a better place. And that's why unfortunately he is in the situation. That's why he was in China. So Mad Vena is I have to say a remarkable woman she says she and Michael our best friends. They've known each other for twenty years. She she's a lovely way of phrasing, and she says you know I'm his person. He's my person. They met at Columbia. He proposed to her on the floor of the UN. She says it was a Canadian proposal the UN. and they were separated just before he was detained, so they're not romantically linked now, but you know to me. There's no doubt that there's love there and so she's determined to give everything. She has at freeing him and Michael Staffer and she's got a lot to offer. She speaks English Percy Mandarin Russian. She experienced in war zones. They've they've always pledged that. If something went wrong with either one of them, the other would come and get them and have each other's back, and she's been deeply involved in this involved in. You mentioned Mungo on Joe. the CFO who had an extradition hearing in in Vancouver and Vienna knowledgeable was there. She. Did you know Venus there? No one knew who she was what she looked like. She walked past all those cameras every day and went and sat and listened to everything she could. She has read every letter of the extradition act. She has read every document in the case she when she arrived on Monday to do the interview out, came spilling notebook after notebook with meticulous details about conversations. She's had people. She's contacted the halls of power. She's been barging through She has been meticulous. One of the things that I think a lot of people in this country, and perhaps it's compared to. The mentioned that Mungo Joe is currently living in in house detention, but people have been asking about the conditions that Michael Coverage has been living under in China. She talked to you about that. Let's hear some of that. Basically he has been confined to a single cell. For this entire time he has not gone outside. He has not seen a tree or had fresh air to breathe for five hundred sixty days in one of his letters. He says that. It really ways on the soul when you can see more than ten feet any direction. And that's something that you know that's really hard to fathom. She says basically what's happened is he's living very monastic life now? When the family writes letters, he's allowed to see the letters, but it can't keep them, and so he tries to sort of capture all the words, and although loving them, and then hold them to memory, and he doesn't have access dependent paper until. They suddenly and without notice appear in. He has to write fast, and these letters are beautiful. You know their detail lyrical. She thinks he's just spending a lot of time composing them in his head and waiting and waiting until he sees a pen and paper, and then getting it all down, really really fast foods issue, Matt. There's little to no protein Everyone's very worried about how sparse the nutrition is. A his letters have stopped coming since March. They haven't seen any letters. They're very worried about that. He hasn't had a constantly visit since January arguably the Chinese seem to say because of the pandemic. Poor Vena had to try to explain what the pandemic was to him. He must've thought it was a hoax but want one thing she's learned. Is that he strong a? He has been planking every day. Apparently, he can out plank for twenty minutes I. You know I. Can Barely get past twenty seconds. I don't know how he's done that. We have heard from the Chinese government over the last year and a half that these two men. The government believes or spies, and the the Chinese government has denied that they are being held in retaliation for the Canadian extradition case against among the walkway executive. How does Vena Najah respond to them? Well firstly forcefully, they are not spy. She says they are pawns. Be Very clear. They are ponts. She says you know. Remind reminds us all this has happened before. This is a pattern with China that even in documents released about conversations that were held before Mung Zhou was detained that Vancouver airport in two thousand, eighteen, the Canadian government was reminded. Do this and remember. Canadians could be taken out of retaliation. So she also points out that China may tend to overtly deny a connection, but then we'll always say when asked about two men what needs to happen to have them released. The candidate needs to correct its mistake so in an elaborate wage. China routinely makes the link to, but she says you know ponds just remember they are pots. Let's see another bit of of the conversation which picks up on that very point. So I think it is very important for all of us to be clear on the fact that we can end the extradition process that is within the rule of law in accordance with the rule of law. It is not in any way judicial interference that the minister can act whether the ministers should. Is a second question in that is a conversation. We should be having instead of hiding behind a supposed- independence of judiciary so-forth. Let's have that conversation should administer do that. And how would the minister do that? That then becomes a matter of political discretion Adrian. Just before I let you go. The Canadian government has said that can't get involved in judicial proceedings. Why is she making the argument against her? She says the government does have an option to consider that isn't and that will. She appreciates it may decide. It's on Canada's interest to exercise that option. She wants to know why the doors been closed. She asked Brand Greenspan the lawyer to look at the extradition act he did. He says you're right. Vena nine, hundred, ninety nine. There was a shift in the language of the extradition. Act that says the Minister of Justice could stop proceeding like this at parts of the process and could have done so early on. That's illegal safety valve. In case arguably extradition underway that could be considered not good for count range of reasons. I suppose this is my laypersons. Understand you this, but you know she's taken it to Louise Arbour former supreme. Court justice, shaking to Allen Rock and our boy says yes, minister can and should step in this request to detain and then extradite. Malaysia was a problem from the very beginning for Canada. Lots of people are going to argue it's a bad idea, Venus. Maybe, it is a bad idea. Just have the conversation. We're going to pick this up with Allen. Rock right now Adrian. Thank you. Certainly Adrienne Arsenault co-host of the national as you heard. Two of Canada's preeminent legal voices agree with Vienna knowledgeable former Supreme Court Justice Louise Arbour Justice Minister Allan Rock recently prevent presented to the government with the legal opinion, saying that the government can as you heard. Stop that extradition process against. Joe Allen Rock Good Morning. Good, Morning Matt. Why did you and Louise Arbour feel that? You needed to seek out? Legal opinion with regards to the case of the cases I suppose of Michael's spout recovering in the case of among Lonzo. Well because Louisan I believe very much that the government is pre-empting any discussion of options in this case by insisting. That extradition is like a criminal prosecution and their response when when ministers or the prime minister or asked about this case, well a matters before the court, we cannot comment. The rule of law is engaged. It's improper. Try to influence an independent judiciary, but our fundamental point is that that is wrong at this is nothing like a criminal prosecution. It's an administrative prospects and parliament has made it clear that the Minister of Justice who manages the process. May step into to terminate the extradition proceeding at any time during the judicial phase. One might ask. Why did parliament include that section twenty, three three in in in the extradition act? I believe if you look at the parliamentary debates at the time mad, it's clear that. They. They wanted an exceptional case to be provided for. There can be unusual cases in which the government might decide. It's not in Canada's best interest to continue with an extradition to the most important objective that. We have in putting this before. The public is to demonstrate. The Minister of Justice does have that option. Let's have a discussion about what what those options are. CBC contacted the Office of the Minister of Justice and Attorney General candidates sent us a statement, which in part reads with respect to the extradition processing candidate extraditions are conducted in conformity with the Extradition Act, were well aware of the laws and processes, governing this important regime as Mrs among case remains before the courts, and the Minister of Justice Has Drexel in the extradition process. It would not be appropriate to comment further on this matter. You were in cabinet if you were sitting in cabinet now and this were presented. What essentially is being framed as a trade between Mum Joe and Michael Savage and call? Would you approve that? Well, let's Let's look at that option I think right now. We cannot have that public discussion for for the very reason that you just read out some the Justice Department's press release. They say we can't even talk about that right because the Minister of Justice has a role. He eventually has to decide in the ministerial phase, so we cannot even talk about any options. So that's point number one point number two I understand that reasonable minds can differ on the question whether we should have the minister terminate the preceding now send Mung back to China and and secure the return of the two Canadians. I understand it's controversial. There are those who say it'd be giving into. Blackmail the into a bullying setting a bad precedent. But. This is an unusual case in unusual time W-. It's a very different case. Math than it was in twenty eighteen when it started, who could have known that a pandemic would delay court proceedings considerably resulting in longer detention for the to Michael, so if you were so if you're sitting in the cabinet now, would you approve this? I would debate fully I'd because all the merits? my own inclination would would be. I don't style it. As an exchange of prisoners on the bridge, I styled as a decision made by a sovereign country. That's own interest, not the interest of China or the United States, but our own interest. To end the preceding, and I would be inclined to end the proceeding and to say it's in our interests to do that because our our citizens are a grave risk, because the viruses again live in China. They're having another outbreak. The pandemic has delayed court proceedings so that their detentions going to be prolonged the Chinese now have laid criminal charges and propose a show trial to Canadians on a show trial, and frankly our entire foreign policy is hostage to the situation. But that leads to other questions of at the foreign policy, one is our relationship with the United States candidates stuck between these two enormous countries and see in in the United States and China. How do you think that is being weighed by the Trudeau government particularly when it comes to our allies south of the border? I fully recognize that the prime minister and the government are in a very difficult situation with China on the one hand and the US out the other, and ordinarily a case like this you would side with your ally and your biggest trading partner in your friend, but this is not an ordinary case and I. Think you know. Let's remember our bilateral relationship with the United States has survived controversies and differences in the past. I was in cabinet when we decided not to join the Americans in Iraq, but they got over that and we moved. Moved on and get over this. I think that it's a weighing of what is most important to Canada I. What? What would you say if one of those Canadians in custody became ill with the virus during this period. What would happen if something worse occurred or what would what would happen if this were to happen in the future, the concern from a lot of people in just in the final minute, or so that we have is that you're paying ransom in some ways to a government Italian totalitarian government. What happens if if that governments? Sees, this as appeasement and it makes. A similar play in in years in future. Do you not worry that this precedent? I say two things very quickly. First of all China has engaged in hostage diplomacy for many many years. Canada's not going to change that Chinese policy no matter how we manage this situation. Second. It's the way of the world last week we read the Americans made a deal to get one of their citizens back from Iran's through an exchange. This is the way the world works. It's cynical. It's difficult, but let's face the reality and let's think of those two. Canadians and let's put this in perspective. The Americans will get over this and we can. We can do with China with our foreign politics policy that effective in the longer term, but let's deal with this case and not worried so much about precedent. Allen Rock great to speak with you. Thank you. Thank you Matt Allen Rock former ambassador to the United Nations. He also served as justice minister in the cabinet of Prime Minister John Christian. Hi Dr Brian Goldman. If you haven't heard my new podcast the dose, this is the perfect time to subscribe each week. We answer your most pressing health related questions and right now we know you're grappling with covid nineteen on those we bring in top experts to answer your questions about the corona virus and post some of our own. Get the latest evidence in a way. That's easy to understand by subscribing to the dose. It's your guide to getting through this difficult time. You can find the dose wherever you get your podcast. The theatres have closed, but the show look on, play me. PODCAST thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of North America's most acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit back and experience everything from chilling thrillers to Gut wrenching dramas to reverend comedies each month experience, the exhilaration of. From the comfort of your own home, claiming available wherever you get your podcasts. Charles Burton is a senior fellow with McDonald Loria Institute former councillor at the Canadian embassy in Beijing. He's been listening in Charleston Good morning to you. Morning Allen Rock says this is the way of the world in some ways. Do believe that the Justice Minister David Lament should use his authority to intervene in the extra addition case of Mung, Joe and ultimately presumably help free Michael's SPA for covered. No I'm afraid I don't. My heart goes out to the family of Mr. Coverage and Mr Saver and I quite understand that Mr Cover ix family feels that the priority is to do anything that can be done to return their their loved one to safety in Canada, but we cannot get into China's kidnapping and menacing of of Canada to pressure on a on an extradition case. Why Not Allen Rock says, this is about the health and wellbeing of two Canadians well I think that we have to think about the president that this would sat in emboldening the Chinese regime to engage in more of these kind of outrageous if they feel that Canada's doing something that they don't like. And so from that point of view in all the humanitarian factors certainly there. I think that there could have been a possibility for the Justice Minister to intervene under section twenty three point three if the. Had Not actually done this hostage diplomacy, and and put us in a position where intervening onto that article would in fact be giving tacit consent to the outrageous violations of the international rules based order and diplomacy and trade that the Chinese government has been implementing. To attempt to to get his mum back to Beijing, so that she won't go to the United. States and presumably possibly gives the United States, government information both the relationship between her firm while away and Chinese intelligence and military elements. What else could candidate than? The prime minister has taken some criticism for initially saying when these charges were brought forward against these two. Two men that he was disappointed. People wanted stronger language and the family, and we'll hear more of this in a moment wants stronger action. What else could could the Canadian government do I? Think we should take action and we should have taken action early on you know. I think that the priority of the government has been to maintain the economic relationship with China. And so they they probably not done over can savor families service by telling them to keep quiet and trust us. We'll try and deal with this matter as best we can. Because I think that mostly we've been appeasing the Chinese regime hoping that if we gave into what they wanted that we would not have our economic on investment and trade with China is. And that maybe they would take you know. Take to our logic. There's absolutely no justification whatsoever to take in culver favor. I think it's time to show some backbone. What does that? What does that mean? Show some backbone? What are the specific things that that the Canadian government do I think first of all we got to start putting Chinese officials on our magnitsky list under the Justice for victims of corrupt Foreign Officials Act, and this would include those complicit with the human rights abuse towards Wigham Muslims and northwestern China. Think that we ought to start to to actually distress. The Chinese regime by cracking down on their agents in Canada engaged in Cyber espionage and influence operations and harassment. What about things like international students? People say that you could. Raise, the drawbridge to put it that way so that international students aren't able to come here. There are many international students from China who study here in Canada, perhaps not now during the pandemic, but when this is done, that will be a big part of life here is that's something that the Canadian government should consider? The students as complicit in the actions of the Chinese government after all the Chinese. Communist regime, and the Chinese people are two completely different things. And so denying students educational opportunities, certainly not something GonNa do, but I think we should be looking much more closely at researchers who have Chinese military backgrounds that we have recently heard of hitting their backgrounds and engaged in research and sensitive areas, and then transferred that technology to serve the interests of the Chinese military think. We need to be a lot more open hoping I'd. The nature of that regime and make sure that all our interactions with trying to serve Canadian values in the Canadian interest, and we have to put those before our economic imperative Bennett coverage is Michael Coverage Father Listen to what he wants from the Canadian government. I think that Canada must not be seen by Canadians. First place to have betrayed him and I think that at this stage the government is opened itself to the charge of having betrayed the cause of Michael, and that there are means that had not taken. which were there for the taking? And maybe from the broader perspective Boola failed Canada and Canadian commitment to human rights and especially for Canadian citizens. Charles Burton that strong language do you believe there's a case to be made that? The Canadian government has betrayed the cause of these two men. Yes. I don't think that we put their case in front of our relations with China I think there's been a hope on the part of the Canadian government and the Chinese government that interest in Mr cover can mistress favor would fade over time, and that we could go about the business of negotiating free trade and. Canadian corporate interests getting more access to the Chinese market, if we make the kinds of concessions to the Chinese regime that they want, which is that we accept their outrageous violations of of fairness and reciprocity in the normal protocols of diplomacy and I I really feel that that our government has to rethink this policy and recognize that the government is supposed to be serving the interests of the people, and not necessarily the interests powerful corporate elements just in the last few seconds we have. There's a desperation to the. The situation which is why family members are now speaking of these two men are sitting in prison. No one knows when they're going to get out. Nobody knows whether the pandemic will arrive on the doorstep of the prison, or it has already to understand the desperation that the family feels. I certainly fully understand that and you know someone who writes about these matters in Canadian press quite a bit. I spend a lot of time angsting about whether the effect of my words would will help or hinder the situation. I really cannot imagine the suffering that the cover can save going through and the suffering that this leaves their families and. You know I I think that the behavior of the Chinese government in this matter has been completely inhuman, appalling and one hopes that you know better days are ahead, but under the currency she in China I. I really can't be optimistic that we'll see any positive time. Oh, anytime soon! If ever Charles good to speak with you, thank you good to speak with you again Charles Burton. Burton senior fellow with McDonald, Loria Institute and a former councillor at the Canadian embassy in Beijing today China's Foreign Ministry responded to what Michael Coverage. Family said they called among one joe's detention, a serious political incident and said that the Canadian Minister of Justice ending her extradition case would be in line with the rule of law and also help solve the problem of the to Canadian citizens. For more CBC podcasts Goto CBC DOT CA slash. PODCASTS.

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Streaming In Place: OTGW Episodes 810 and Series Wrap-up

The Televerse

34:27 min | 4 months ago

Streaming In Place: OTGW Episodes 810 and Series Wrap-up

"Continue The televise streaming? Hoover the gone. Hello everybody, and welcome back to streaming in place. Today, we are talking about over the garden wall episodes, eight, nine and ten, which are Babes in the wood into the unknown and the unknown. So. Again. So much to talk about I was I mean obviously I'm a big fan of the series of talked about that plenty. But every time you watch it if you can feel a little different because there's so much. Texture so so many layers of things to experience with this. You know as you watch it especially over. Multiple years you'll notice different things each time what I noticed this time was that my emotions were not ready for these episodes as I texted you guys I was just watching it like you know in twenty twenty how many of us have been worth like lashing out at someone who doesn't deserve it because you're so upset and feel like broken because of yourself, your own failings, but also the world's and then. How many of us have also felt like Greg you know going. Okay. Well, here's GonNa do then. Okay. So all we do is just Bank and then it'll be fine and then. Like Oh my God it was it was a lot. It was a lot for me But of course I still loved it I'm curious Alison. How you felt about these episodes what your experience was, and if you know an important question did Jason Funderburk over live up to the hype. well, I feel like. If if we're going to get a win in this year of twenty twenty it should be the revelation that that just thunder. Burger. Fund Burger funderburk under Burger. I think it's like fundamental step holding. Burger. He can stop he can stop holding my hand now. I was that was great. That made me feel ten feet tall what a wonderful reveal and sort of A slight of hand Particularly when we we keep C-, keep in the in that episode in into the unknown I feel like they keep showing you dudes that you assume are Jason. funderburk. And so the actual revelation of who he is and what his whole deal is, just it's great. And the young man cannot tell a scary story say. This I really criticises technique I was also pretty emotionally affected by these episodes. I'm not sure in fact how articulate. Today I'm still processing. But I do feel like I should get a call dish since the North Wind was obviously supposed to be Tom. Wave. I know I wasn't in it but as it was happening I was like, oh This is is it how? Cool. Let's do this. It was wonderful. Yeah. That's what I'm GONNA say. KNOWL- well, Marcus says Jason Funderburk has the honor of being the final name for the frog. Yes. Very important for me like one of the most important things in this whole series is the very end when when, when Greg Shakes Jason Funderburk any glows. Like, yes, that's what I needed all of this happened. Wasn't a dream. No matter. How many. References they're making at the end there and go care and I'm doing just fine everyone know how were these episodes for you? Yeah. I think that again like you were saying Kate back whole. Hitting it hits different notes on twenty twenty like that Greb despair that work feels that results in almost becoming one of those trees is really it's difficult to watch and like the full blown into winter seen just makes it all the worse In everything that happens to him as well throughout that process of almost drowning in the. Waking up in a bluebird nest. The needing to eat some dirt feel better if he eats some dirt. Yeah it's just not to like really feel that as like a state of being which normally it's much easier to sort of in the past just go. Yeah. No I I feel that in kind of abstract sense I've been there and that kind of percents as opposed to this year it's like Oh yeah. Yeah I ju just kind of want someone to pile leads on me in just let roots grow over me so that I can then be chopped up turned into oil to keep lantern blowing that is keeping alive a scary demon made of screaming faces which everyone in case you missed that. Because it's very quick you can just click on that link to get a full blown view of the beast. Yeah. It's just it's a lot. It's. Listeners, you can't hear a alison just had a hell of a reaction. You don't okay over there. It's like a it's like a frame to frames and then it's just on but I mean it's it's. It's a lot. It's legitimately unsettling Yeah. I like I. Feel like you've gotTA. GotTa make sure that I'm using the term nightmare fuel carefully from. So yeah, it just it hit really hard but it also like. What also hit really hard aside from like words whole like depression was also his was also that flashback and that kind of like not even the explanations Halbe God but just that sense of Oh right Halloween Oh, Halloween. And getting depressed by that was also something I've really experienced like I haven't gone trick or treating ears and we never have kids come but it was just like all right Halloween's canceled. Hey we're doing stuff the current plan is to. Tape or hot glue can't like fun size candy bars to like bamboo. Skewers for Kebabs and stick them the front yard. So the kids can like come take them at a it's a work in progress but like that's very cute we couldn't do that here but I thought about maybe leaving out a basket of candy for like postal workers and these guys. Because obviously they are. Trick or treating, and that they are going house to house I guess it's more. Sort left Aquinas comment. He is his lawyer in the at the Office is creating PVC pipe candy shoot to basically launch can't kids. My brother has done this as well. His cardboard tubes. But yet, he's very excited that he's like, how are they gonNa know that you have candy what's weird to thing like your good side right together. But. Yes. I any of these attempts to try to have some Halloween fruit. The kids who may be around where you're at is is lovely and you know wall need to report back on how it goes because hopefully, it goes well but yet the mundanity of their Halloween trick or treating after everything else and like compared to that sense of normalcy that wouldn't we all love right now yeah. Different. My other thing that I really real quick won't ask Allison is did you clock that it was an elephant costume this whole time? What I mean that that's gotta go up there with see dead people immigrate reveals of Film and Television History he even rides an elephant in Babes in the woods so they get it. Very. Very charming I. Love It. Well, let's talk a bit about about the the the beast and the climax of everything we talk about you know knowles excellent zoom name poetry, and clarinets 'cause it's very, very good but. But the. Like I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did the beast. which is just just so great and terrifying and everything in the climax of how that is all worked like I was going to try to grab a get a picture of the beasts to be one of these like the picture for the post but you can't because you can actually see it well enough in any of the like the outline if I mean if so visually striking. For the Hannibal fans out there of course, consider that connection as well. But It's still so potent. Those is. In having it all come down to work. Just pure patty. Height highschool student mode we like. We just dumb. No. I'm not GONNA do that. You do that I'm going to do this like I really love it else all the hip where you. Great. I've enjoyed over the. Last two days that we've been talking. It's we're talking about it SORTA over a lot of these. Classic ferry telling tropes very telling fairy tale, Joe Tropes, and Sort of fundamental building blocks of storytelling, which sometimes are here just sort of classically presented and sometimes are subverted a little and this seems like one of those indications you don't have to take the bargain. There's no. There is an assumption of power that you don't need to make. You don't have to agree to the what what's presented to you as the status quo particularly not when you're powered by dream logic So it was just it was. Really wonderful and sort of liberating in thrilling. That was my twenty twenty moment as I was like, oh, I reject the premise of the question. Great, good for you words. Why don't we reject the premise of the question? Pick a question how many Supreme Court justices are there I reject the premise I'm going to reject so many premises I just reject the premise. which while I'm thinking of it if any of you listen to streaming and place and do not listen to the verse Kate, Knoll had an incredible. Wonderful. Thrilling for me personally conversation about what the constitution means to me on the last episode television you should listen to it I love listening to them talk about this thing that I love so much and what the constitution means to me is all about potentially rejecting the premise of the question so. So. That that's my advice anyway that piece of it I think is the part that I'm sort of reflecting on the most and turning around turning over in my mind Because it just makes it a story about. I mean a lot of things but one of them is about empowerment and agency, and that obviously is really attractive to me right now. I, think that that is true of the characters not jest of Work I think there are some parallels with what goes on with Greg and Babes in the wood But? Yeah. Very potent emotionally resonant conclusion for me and then that montage Jesus Christ. WHOA nuclear strength. Yeah, the your point about agency was exactly what I was thinking about You literally read my mind and I'm I'm weirded out that you've got some sort of like probe in my head now because. You basically just said about to say it was like word gets to exercise agency in fairy tale when most of the time? That's the exact opposite what happens in fairytales mainly because he comes from this place that does not a fairy tale. and he recognizes that these rules do not apply. And that there's always some weird catch with those rules as well. It's not necessarily like genre savviness in the way that we think about it, but it stole A. Little like low grade version of that of realizing wait hang on. That's the I've always looked at people in fairy tales who do this kind of shaving go. That's a bad idea and then just realizing it and going wait no none of this makes any sense like literally none of it makes any sense and that realization I think is really great but it's also really heartbreaking to also watch the woodsmen kind of come to that realization as well. and thinking about all the years he's probably spent doing this and trading the lives of children as if they were tokens quote him from an earlier episode. And just like that weight and that realization of him, not being able to reject the premise then remembering everything just it's Roth Watchman Christopher. Lloyd's vocal performance in those last couple of moments are just got originally good So yeah everything else just said. No. I really love that point because I feel like there is a sort of close cousin to the way that this ends which is when you accept the premise of the question but inverted or like find a loophole the we see the Outsmart you're like all the time, but that is not what this is. It's just really similar. It's like instead of Oh well I outsmarted you because you said walk through air door be and I went through the window. It's you said walks through Dora or door be, and I don't have to listen to you. I. Don't know who you are. Why would I even compare like? Why would I even consider either door captain marvel totally totally It's A. An awfully thrilling sort of nope. Yes. I love that president you're watching it and you realize I'm curious how you guys read this because previously I had always assumed when we get our montage at the end and the woodsmen his daughter comes out. the that the interpretation supposed to be that because the pieces destroyed everyone has been released in Freidan returned. But this time watching yet I was like wait. Why would it be that? What if she was never dead? What if she was never gotten she's been wondering where her father is this whole time and that's why she's crying i. think that makes more sense and you than you realize on the whole thing like the beast has managed to convince to shape and mold the woodsmen through his you know his power and playing on the woodsmen spheres to do his work for him so that he can go and terrorize Greg in word and like you know drain them any hope from afar. To get more treat like and so he he lost his lantern but in the meantime, he's like well, if you're going to do my work for me great I'm going to go over here and keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger, and so in. Though the woodsmen is the desperately trying to fight fight often attack the beast. He's just by accepting the premise. He's just feeding into this narrative that will only empower the beast and I wonder if we can draw any parallels that in the country right now. I feel like you could. You could just like grabbing the air and find a parallel like we were probably all thinking of different parallels right now because I was like the. Capitalism but like peace could be any number of things where you take the people who are not in a position of power and trick them into thinking that what they're doing is helping themselves in doing something that will benefit them when really they're just making everything Moore's for themselves because the system is inherently flawed. And the people with power only look to accrue more richly with his just. So terrified of being alone and lowliest and we've seen throughout the different episodes this theme of you know like in mad love the Quincy's been alone for too long beatrice can't go home because of something she's done these like what happens to people when they're alone what they are afraid of facing what they fear has happened as opposed to. Embracing that reality and in this case, blowing out the lantern So yeah, it's. About the show, which leads me to ask like a non serious question of based on the montage at the end we assume that greet killed Takata and that's why she's staring logging. We add. A she gone. I think they're doing like in head they're together but they like our together in their own mansions. Sure. Very like like Helena Bonham Carter. kind of and wise's name escaping me Burton Burton kind of way they have their own homes and they like meet up to to have some tea, but they're very used to being alone so properly. Big. Trucks. Okay. I can do that. Yeah. It doesn't make sense but we're going to go with it. Aquinas I assume the mansions were so big if. They were at opposite ends. They were basically across state lines. It would take a while to get back to each other fair enough. A Marcus attributed apparently end cosgrave is seen in the graveyard in into the unknown. Okay. Interesting well, that's dark. I mean, come on wash this show. Yeah. No I haven't actually. I'm just noticing all of this on the Pius Yeah. Yeah. She kinda could there's a lot there. It's funny because I'm basing all of this off of my Oetzi saw. Which I didn't realize this whole time I've been assuming the essay was just a marketplace for people who like to make cute things in really it's the over the Garden Wall Industrial Complex and I just didn't know. Seven really I'm learning. So there's a lot. There's a lie and I want all of it. All of it I want all of it via like the first time. I watched it the reveal in episode nine that they're like I don't know in v Eighties or something timeframe. Wise. Later than that she does not have a tape player yet, but does she not have a tape player the tapes are passe or because she just doesn't have a tape player. I. One hundred percent assumed that he made her a mix tape when all wind Jason. Funderburk was making you're absolutely yeah like one hundred percent. He's just he's like our little precious vintage hipster boy hair poetry, and clarinet on a on a mix tape kate definitely the at the very least the late nineties early offs. Oh for sure. He works at family video and he gets painting. People should have cell phones though if that wasn't in Sam, nobody has a cellphone in the ninety s and well, if it's the if it's the late nineties, early odds I, mean I was in high school in the late nineties early odds, I didn't have a cell phone until my sing Tao I mean I didn't and these are tiny teeny bitty babies saying I mean not teeny bitty babies. But like you know I was I was picking word like fifteen Jason funderburk would have a cell phone. Oh, Marcus and Marcus saw the other way that the cassettes were new NAM, which is interesting I like that read as well. I sort of I get down with that one slightly less just because I assume that maybe they would have had. fancier costumes if they were rich enough to have a cassette player when I'm an egg, the all know overthinking we all know your neck. The reveal. Those our Halloween costumes was just so. Of course they are. That's an end like I think Elijah Wood captures that energy of yeah I'm GonNa do it ONA? What did I do? Oh No oh no. So well in the voice over it I it was a true delay for me the first time watching it. Like having all that revealed any other elements of these episodes that you guys WanNa touch on our make sure that we get to before we reflect back on the series is whole on I. Just WanNa, real quick mentioned that Beautiful Nineteen Twenty Nineteen Thirties animation dream singlets in cloud city. It's just so good and ridiculous and I love it I remember watching it for the first time just being delighted by it, and because it's just like, why are we doing this those freaky winged Cherub heads, which are a mainstay of from that era of animation and then it's just like here they are in. This deeply disturbing. I don't care for it. I'm so glad it's here on plus all the became ousting with the scoring as well. is like something that is either terrible or great insight great here So just I really love that whole beautiful when and how to end. This is just beautiful gut wrenching while all your sweet, Greg, after he's in the thrill of the beast is is. Cold. But just gotTa we just gotTa. Wait. No. EXP- Speaking Mickey Mouse for those who don't know? No. Oh Mickey Mouse is win like a score sound effects basically match up to what the act the actions of the characters on screen. So if you watch like fantasia that happens a lot people either move in rhythm with the song or very specifically when they move a certain note or sound is played that matches what's happening on on on screen with the with the sound fact, it's not fully work. But so like when they're out the stairs, there's a That kind of exactly. Yeah. He says I have to Dash with the nineteen thirties animation sequence with amazing Deborah Voigt is the vocalist as vocals was true. Get to watch his whole series eight times process everything but words sheets were so precious. So. Thank you Keaton for sharing effective anything else that you would like to say Kanye says by friends. Thank you for bringing the show into my life to absolutely wreck. My heart he didn't has to go she has to go vote. So thank you Keenan for for sharing your thoughts about this and I look forward to any future plus you have I'll make sure I am going to try at. Keenan in the in the thread and the twitter thread says, she can hopefully share some more thoughts but marcus I'm GonNa throw it to you now. This was not your first time watching over the garden wall. What did you think about what? I really enjoyed it. watching it again, I'd only seen it once before a couple of years ago. So there's some specific parts said I had forgotten I remembered a bunch of like the. Bean themes in overall direction and like some certain images such as. The All the Pumpkins from. Hard Times at the US could be. and. Then some of the shots. Characters like Loni in the. Forest in the snow at the end. Being. So. It was fun to revisit it. I feel like. The second episode there. Is. where? Is the episode that really kind of grabs me just like it's like, okay, this is this is interesting and then the. Last half of the. Season is really strong. And I only just kind of wish that they had a few more episodes and be a bit longer in this world. was supposed to be eighteen episodes originally I think and then they had to cut it to. I don't know if I could handle a episode though man. You could some of them are a little lighter like some of the first few episodes were not quite as. Dark as the last few. So if you could the mid. In the first. Basically, until I think the ringing the bell, he can fit it in a lot of episodes without. Derailing. The momentum of the season. The you have a favorite character and of course, very important favorite song. I would say I kind of have to fruit each, which is Beatrice and Greg. I think I like beaches just like SAS personality and Greg is just like so pure and innocent. That his literal take on everything is. Delightful, and really. Brings, it brings the whole thing up a bit. And that's Iraq fact. Yet. For songs. Just, kind of. The Strangeness Of. Potatoes molasses just. Very childlike song, and then I think it might just over the garden wall. Song. On their frog boat. I think those are my two favorite songs what about the re- Pres Oh pota-. Sad Manasseh does. Molasses Button Latin. Yeah it's. It's Oh it's all great. Any other final thoughts on over the Garden Wall I assume you recommend it. Yeah a definitely recommended considering I did end up buying the digital copy. Like. Yeah. So I put money down for it. So yeah, if I recommend it. Nice Great will thank you for sharing your thoughts on it. Alison to neck. So I hope you've been thinking what are your favorite episodes characters songs. I think I'M GONNA I'M GONNA abstain from episode because I just don't know I'm like it's all. Too. Fresh I felt on the rabbit hole you know what I mean like did asked me to tell him episode from episode like I don't know it's an armchair like they're just they're all wonderful. I think that my favorite character is also Greg but I. Love Beatrice and I felt work really hard. I was like, ooh. It me. but greg is just like one of those creations where I think every once in a while I'm just going to think about him and smile and what a gift that is. So I'm GonNa go I think I'M GONNA go. With. Greg. For Song Again, markets are going to be in lockstep because I've had potatoes molasses stuck in my head since we watched it it is an undeniable banger. It's You know like it's up there with toss a coin to your witcher I just I can't stop always and forever it's wonderful. And it's really hard to write a song that catchy although I don't remember the name of it, but the is it Adelaide parade? Okay also, very catchy and charming and I am very much looking forward to just listening to this soundtrack for the next four or five days can't wait wish I. had started listening to it in September the way that I'm going to start listening to Mariah Carey's all I want for Christmas is you on November I I wish I. Wish that I had had it sooner. was there. Another one is are those the three? Any other anything? Else? Any thoughts? Oh, I just It's such a rare treat. For me To discover something that I don't know anything about. I've got to do it twice in a row between this and Avatar right like something that for some reason for whatever reason it just passed me by I wasn't at the right moment for it or wasn't ready for it, and then it just sort of. Is Perfect and speaks to where you are at any given moment. Those experiences are incredibly special and so I'm really grateful I got to have this one I don't know if that's great TV criticism but it but. It's important to you. It feels really good to have had this experience right now and as a person who is struggling to maintain my belief which I will because it's true because I'm correct my believe in the power of art is an engine for empathy It was really nice to watch something with so much empathy that can also speak to feeling. Stuck or hopeless or lost. and. That allows for the possibility of magic good and bad in the world. So. Big Thumbs up for me. No. So work real hard just every day all day but could you wanNA give a very quick shot out to the human former beatrice mom of where you're going to do turn us into bluebirds again and just Patriots Never GonNa live that down for the rest of her life. She might as well just like. Travel so far away. So no one knows who she is say Fast Brown, right? Yeah exactly. It's just All No. This is. It was. So, much of a relief to be Sassy to someone else. Now, I have to start taking it again. Clock. That the dog hurt Beatrice's dog is the dog from the first episode. I did like this time around actually realize it which was just so sad I'm as I mentioned before I'm really partial to the highway man Song both like visually but I think the songs also really good. But the beasts things are just beautiful. In their plus they're just tear terribly well, song disgustingly while Song as we've discussed. And pretty much my favorite episodes as we hit them. So I can be mad love and than just these last three or just complete dickey's slap bankers. Realized that like the huskies be like the aren't you a little early isn't because their skeletons and they're alive and everything eventually dies but because they are currently in the process of drowning while this is happening, it's like, oh Yeah it's very good. So yeah, those would be mine. Our bring you kate. Well, I'M GONNA secondly Marcus says, which is glad. Greg was actually voiced by child. We've been talking about different book promises that we haven't talked about Colin. Dean, who is the voice of Greg and he's he's so good but in a delightful actually feels like a kid way like trying to sound like a kid or like a very very theater kid kind of. Artifice to that sometimes happens a feels very, very genuine and is delightful I like. They're. All MY PRECIOUS BABIES ALEC them all they're all great. A you know it's hard for me to pick. A favorite episode or favorite song or favorite character, but a May I'll do it. So I guess I will go with Gregg I guess I will go with the beast's song or Patient is the night. or the over the garden wall and like, and again ending with the frog and the frog you realize like you know he's been, you know Jason Front of Burger has been singing the of doing the is absolutely lovely I just I really adore the series and miniseries. I should say and I haven't picked an episode For like these I mean I think they're all really good the for the way that it hits and pivots the season I guess I'll go into the unknown but it's probably not actually my favorite individual. Episodes. Come getting they're getting. Their Alison. You don't understand how hard I'm just saying. You break here. Here's the thing it would break the Mike I just can't I am out of practice I can no longer belt without actually belting and it it would break the microphone. So just like go listen to you a Dina. Pretend it was me probably my only I might so sounds like maybe a little bit fuller anyway. Oh Baby Tree I, love it I. Love Her I love her I really do. But yes, that's We'll continue off Mike. But it's for now will wrap up over the garden wall. So glad that you've enjoyed it alison in Canada's well, thank you Marcus and Kenyan for joining us today in zoom. Thank you for listening and tomorrow we're going to be back to talk about murder she wrote murder on the bus Oh. We're GONNA. Take the bus murder takes the bus. Do I get to say welcome back to streaming and place Oh great what a thrill. I. Know that you both have probably seen this episode. So I don't actually get to have the nice little jolt of being the person who's seen it before when you haven't, I don't remember it if that helped. Good an one one, it's either episode eighteen or nineteen depending on if you count the pilot as episode zero or episode one. So depending on how it's numbered, it'll be eighteen or nineteen in a season one down. So listeners Marcus assessed what season is at the context there. But yes, we'll talk about that just never halloween. Tomorrow that. Thing we'll be back tomorrow. Bye Bye.

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Zack Snyder's Insane Vision For the DCEU, And Jordan Peele's US Spoiler Discussion Part 2

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Zack Snyder's Insane Vision For the DCEU, And Jordan Peele's US Spoiler Discussion Part 2

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash on daily for Tuesday, March twenty six two thousand nineteen today's episode. We're gonna talk about a little bit film news, and that we're gonna dive into uh spoilers for answer some of your emails in get Chris's reaction slash interpretation into my my insights from a second viewing of the film. This is slash editor chief Peter Surata in General Mattis podcast is slash managing editor Jacob Paul. Hello. Hello, senior writer, Ben Pearson. It was gone and writer, Christy Vangelis to a low, folks. Okay. So before we get into the uh spoiler discussion. First of all we were supposed to be regarding the water cooler today it was pushed from yesterday because of the apple event, but each is out sick. So in her honor were moving at to Wednesday. So I promise it will be the water cooler will be happening tomorrow. Let's talk about the one news story before we get to the us discussion and. Well, actually, it's a couple of news stories coming out of this screenings were happenings Exeter or was doing these screenings of his director's cuts of his fell GMs. And we learned more about his original vision for the DC EU. Chris would we know? Well. I don't know if this is what I would call his vision for the entire DC EU. But he basically spent this entire event defending his his various choices for Batman v. Superman, one of those of course, is the fact that Batman two straight up kills people in in these X night or DC EU, which as we all know is a current big. No, no. Although I will say Zach self-defense, it hasn't always been that way with the early pages of the Batman comics Batman had no problem killing people and even in the Tim Burton movies. You know, the like Batman returns, he straight up strap some dynamite to some guy and blows him up. So he has killed in the past. But in recent years, he he's adopted this, you know, no kill rule, and of course, than dole in movies made that more famous, but that's not the case in zek ciders world and during the conversation, he had a sort of a volt. Later tirade where? I guess I should read the actual quote because I can't do it Justice without with summarizing it. So here, here's the way. Can you read the closet in your impression of Zach Snyder? Saying I don't even know what he sounds like I'd never actually listened to him talk. Like, I just have read interviews. So it'd be an Batman voice. I don't want. No. Because my regular voice sounds enough. Like, the Batman voice. I'll just read it like that. Someone says to me bet man killed a guy. I'm like fuck really wake the fuck up. I guess that's what I'm saying. Once you've lost your virginity to this fucking movie. And then you come and say to me something about like, my superhero wouldn't do it. I'm like, are you serious? I'm like down the fucking road on that. That's. Then he continues. It's a cool point of view to be like, my here is are still innocent my heroes. Don't fucking lie to America. My here is didn't embezzle money from the corporations. My here didn't fucking commit any atrocities. That's cool, but you're living in a fucking dream world and quit. Kick up. What do you have to say? You have to be smart man to lead a totally dollar film. Production outs. Sounds so stupid. He sounds like he's a fifteen year old. I like another of his movies still feel bad for laughing. But he sounds so stupid like get rid of loud. It's just what any audit thing to say. Like army wonders if he's just like he so sick of talking about this. He just like snapped. But otherwise, I don't know what what else it could be like, I wonder if the people in that theater like all of them early accident or fans like if they were like encouraging this like did. I mean, like, I just picture like, you know, when you see a stand up and they're like bombing. And you just like you're like pulling on your collar and your face gets really read for them. Like, oh, no. That's what I picture being in the audience during this tirade was like just like a boy, I he should stop. This is variously. But I don't know maybe they were all like cheering him on for all I know it by the way, but you saying that that man has killed people in these movies. His bet will meal had like this huge asks like machine. Gun on the hood of it. Yeah. What is the purpose that it's not to knock down walls? Sure it is. It's so he can blow cars out of the way when he's chasing after the joker. Don't you? Remember, he flips all those cars with the guns. That's all. They're there for Peter. Okay. Actually interesting because the Batman no kill thin camp out because of all the restrictions. The government put in place against comics in the fifties. Following all these censorship outcries? So rather than you know, just have Batman suddenly stop murdering they built into the character. They doesn't murder in these days eve as grim as Batman comics are all these days, and they're really grim. It's such a cornerstone of the character, you know, even post Burton Burton. So it's just it's so strange to hear this still because it's been, you know, sixty years is Batman has not been a murderer burns limb person ever go out that path that it's so strange to me. Well, I mean, it seems like Saks netter was trying to create his whole other version of the D C. The universe. And he also made this other quote, this other comment about his original plans for that Martha scene. Chris it tell us about it. I I I know it's it's almost too hard to believe this. I if I need to hear it come out of your mouth, this is this is really wild. So I he went off a little spiel defending the infamous scene in Batman v superman where Batman is seconds away. From just straight up murdering superman and superman, you know, asks Batman to save Martha which is his mother and batmans mother, of course, was also named Marsha. You know, there's Martha Kent that Superman's mom, and there's Martha Wayne, that's batmans. Bob and superman saying that makes Batman realize like oh, superman has a family, and blah, blah, blah. I've been wrong this whole time. That's an okay idea in theory. But the execution is really bad, and we're all still laughing about it. So during the same event Zack Snyder, I he defended that. Apparently, he revealed that there was originally a much crazier idea about this where it turns out that after Martha Wayne got shot in crime alley which you know, is of course, the famous Batman origin story where his parents get gunned down batmans dead died, but Bartha Wayne survived and she was put in the witness protection program in Kansas at which point she became Martha Kent under assumed identity. And then, you know, she found superman in the field or whatever after he crashed earth and raised him as her son. So there's going to be this twist. Where after superman reveals his mother is named Martha Batman learns that they're like a brothers, essentially, they have the same mother. And boy, I wish he had done that because that would have been just even more crazy, and I would love to see the reaction to that. Oh my God. The outrage would've been insane. There's so much wrong with. This. Why wouldn't Martha Wayne leaf traumatize son alone be raised by the Butler? Why would why why I mean, you know, to to give Zach sired the doubt, we don't know the whole thing because we don't have the script. Maybe in this version of the story. She thought her son was dead. I don't know why they would put her at the police protection program and not tell her son was alive. I don't know. I'm trying to be nice wouldn't hear about Bruce, Wayne from you know. You know this. That's true. Maybe she has amnesia. That's always a possibility. Like the the getting shot destroyed her memory. Then you've been quiet during all this insanity. Like any thoughts on this? I love this Martha idea so much because it is so out there. And I I would this is one of those things that would be a legendary moment in comic book movie history. We would still be talking about this and and having huge arguments over it. And I kind of love the idea of like, so, you know, sack Snyder as as a misguided as he can be sometimes this reminds me a little bit of like the old superman fly by concept where it's just like it changes. What we know your character talking about the script that Jj Abrams road that eventually like the big third act reveal was that lex Luther was also from krypton. Yes. Yes. And so, you know, something like that would change what we know so fundamentally about these characters that I would find it really really interesting. You know? Say what you will about it. But the way that Snyder could've used this twist to play with the dynamic between Batman and superman would have been something that we've never seen before. And I, you know in a world where we're seeing a lot of sort of literal adaptations of stuff in like, sometimes we sort of feel like we know what the movie is going to be before it even comes out something like that would have certainly like flipped the table on on what we know about that man and superman, so I kind of wish he would have done that. But yeah, I I guess alas. It was not to be Jacob say what you will about the logic of this idea. But at least it would be a more reasonable moment than them bonding over the fact that their mothers are both named the same name. This is why you don't take a piece accomplished trivia and make into a large plot point in two hundred million dollar movie. It's bad from the outset. Nothing here works and all that just makes me very sad. Okay. We have a lot of stuff to talk about jerk appeals us if you have not seen journey pills us, go. See it. I think we can all agree that something that you should see in the theater we recorded in episode on Friday spoiler discussion, where Jakopin Ben in Brad all outlined their interpretations of the movie, go listen to that. It's a I think it's one of our best episodes, but someone who was not on that po-. So if you're still listening to you haven't seen us, this is your fault. You've been warned there's massive spoilers coming up. But that said someone who wasn't on that podcast was Chris Chris had not seen the movie at that point. Chris you have now seen the movie. What did you think? I loved it. I love us seeing us felt like, you know, a confirmation of like everything everyone said about Jordan Peele as a filmmaker like after after get out came out, and it was so fantastic. And there was the sense. Like, oh, how's he gonna follow this up? And this is like proof that he really is this really fresh exciting voice in horror, like even though he's doesn't have the same style as John carpenter at all like watching this. It was like, oh, this is like the new John carpenter. This is someone who's going to specialize in horror and take things that are familiar with it. But also work their own sort of, you know. Deep interpersonal stuff into it. And that's so exciting, especially in in the horror, all because there are so many horror filmmakers who are just, you know, they're they're in it for a cheap scare and there's nothing wrong with that. I I have fun watching, you know, har- movies that are just cheap scare movies. But anytime a hard movie comes along. That's like really trying to do more is trying to you know, have the layers and trying to be deeper and trying to you know, go beyond just jump scares. I get so so excited because it's so rare, and I I really hope he sticks with genre. I mean, I'll happily watch whatever he does next. But I hope he stays in the horror genre for a little bit more. Because it, you know, it could really use his voice. Some really curious. I'm sure you've probably heard by now Jacob in Ben's interpretations of the ending of this film in what the whatever thing represents. I'm wondering what your your thoughts are on it. This is one of those things where I don't think there's any one correct interpretation. And it's this is one of those things where I almost feel on qualified to even take a guess without seeing it like two or three it's through the eyes of the beholder. Like, this is I think that's what Jordan kill wants is. He wants people to get out of it. What they will dude. I mean, right. I mean, you know, what I love about this movie is there's there's two ways of look at it one is there's this like almost spill Burgi and approach where it's very entertaining. You know, it's funny. There's these big set pieces, and it's very easy for quote, unquote, general audiences to just you know, watch and consume and walk out of the theater near think about again. But at the same time, there's this whole extra layer underneath where you know. There's there's a cerebral angle. And there's a metaphorical angle, you know, where people are are literally fighting with themselves and. You know, this whole, you know, I it seems like really on the nose, but you know, us is U S. And it's this whole commentary on where America is right now in this country, and people just people living there people who think they're living their best possible lives, but they're really not. They're they're in this sort of like. You know, the shadow of themselves that that isn't you know, we aren't who we really think we are. But at the same time where we are too. There's this quote from Kurt Vonnegut. That's he says, you know, we are who we who we pretend to be. So we should be careful who we pretend to be. And I thought of that at very last scene where you know, she realizes that. She was. Feel Iago's character realized that she was actually the the the person from the she was the tethered from the basement, it's it's there's just so much going on. And you could look at it. As like, oh, it's a neat twist. But you could also look at it as this thing that casting tire movie in this whole other light. And what I love about. That twist is if you think about it, it's not cheap. It's not just tacked on you, go back and look at how lupita on the character reacts to the tethered when they show up. She has this almost sympathy for them that the other characters do not like there's a part where she stops the car, and she she reaches out to the other her in her son like she's trying to reason with him where you the the other characters wouldn't be doing that. And at the same time. There's also we get this this glimpse of this savagery of her character Tillich, which he's defending people. She, you know, kinda goes nuts, and these are all these really subtle hints that Jordan pill is dropping to to to bring. About that that Walker of a twist at the end. Yeah. Well, said I saw the film. I second time. I would saw a C with Kibera. I in a, you know, a normal theater with the general audience, not like my, you know, press screening, and I took a bunch of notes that wanted to relate these notes you guys to see if you had any thoughts on this. First of all in that flashback in the beginning with pitas dad is playing whack a mole a game about hitting under round creatures and keeping them underground. He's strangely. Only hitting one whole. I'm not sure if that will like what the choices there does that say anything Jacob that like he's not going after all the moles. He just going after one whole I'm not so sure if I would read too much into the one whole thing, but I it whole whack-a-mole connection. So that flew over my head for sure, and that's just some really clever foreshadowing, so I I really appreciate that. Yeah. His her daughter Zora is wearing this green hoodie that says the word T H O. I don't know how you pronounce that. But apparently, it's a Vietnamese word that means rabbit. So I mean rabbits are all over her and her kids life's like she has that stuffed animal. And so I mean, I I don't think there's an that's just kind of foreshadowing I think I wanted to ask you guys there in that opening sequence. She is eating a candy apple on a stick. Right. And she finds. That fun house, and you know, starts raining, and she drops the candy apple immi- reading too much into this that there there might be something about the garden e garden of Eden here with the apple. I don't think there are any accidents here the idea that he's he apple right before she has the true knowledge of what America is literally dropped on her. I it feels very intentional. I'm trying to understand more about the underground. We see it in that last fight in the underground. There is a classroom with desks in chalkboard. And there's like bloody handprints underneath the chalkboard. What what is this class from use for? Anybody have any ideas, my guests in please jump in anybody at a time is that this is where the former researchers contest or maybe trying to train all the other how to be human how to maybe replaced people above them or better replicate them, and when it was abandoned all they had left with a bunch of empty classrooms, which you know, maybe here's a further further commentary there. We're talking about you know, classrooms. Not being used also loaded imagery. Yeah. Chris I'm curious. What did you make of the the difference between the above ground and the the below ground areas? Did you were you caught up at all in the like, the the literal 'isms, and the the the reality of that story underneath like did you have any questions about how that world worked? I so I I like I actually love how vague is. I think the only thing I actually didn't like in the movie. Is when he stops the whole thing to have, you know, the tethered version of the pidonia go, I guess, it's actually the real version, you know, give that whole story about who they are. And where they came from like, I honestly wish that wasn't in it at all. I would rather. There was like literally no attempt at explanation because I think that's more exciting to me. That's that's bore shrinkage. That's more surreal that's more with you. I feel like giving the explanation opens up those those like, quote, unquote, pothole questions that people have like the like without that conversation. It leaves things just way more open to interpretation right? And at the same time. You can also say like who's to say that story that characterised telling his even true like there's nothing to back that up. We just have her word for it. And as is clear she's been driven kind of insane from living underground for so many years. So there's no there's no telling that that story. She's. Telling is even true, which would actually be an easy way to say. Like, you know, sure, this doesn't make sense. But it doesn't have to because you know, why are we taking this woman's word for it? Anyway. Yeah. Some other things I noticed the funhouse, which by the way, the the subtitle of analysis find yourself, which I think is kind of funny. The the big storm causes her to go into the fun house and the power goes out. And this is something I didn't notice in my first viewing this film. The power goes out which causes the escalator to stop which is allows the tethered who would that be Adelaide or read to come up to keep it clean. We'll just call the version who ends if above ground Adelaide version ends up blow ground, reg, keep it clean. Yeah. So that that allows Adelaide to escape and not have to just, you know, run up and the wrong way of an escalator, which I was something. I didn't even think about the first feeling. You know, we talked about eleven eleven that's on that Jeremiah eleven eleven sign. I think we Jacob. You mentioned it was on the clock. My second viewing. I noticed that. There was a lot more eleven eleven in the movie they're watching a baseball game on TV. And it was tied eleven eleven the she wins a her dad wintry thriller t shirt, and that is a prize number eleven and the last shot in the movie shows ambulance going into the mountains in on the top of the ambulance is the number eleven eleven so that is definitely something German peel quit all over the movie. Yeah. And somebody in the reader Email has a really fascinating observation about eleven. I can't wait for us to get into that. Would you like to read that one right now? Oh, you want to hit the show Chopin? And we'll go back through I note. This is Stephen k writing in directly to respond to abedin's reading of the scene where he. Quoted the bible verse. And he wants to add a little bit more context. Bible. Verse is unique context understand the Jeremiah verse we've abandoned progress in reverted back to the since of our forefathers capitalism is becoming feudalism and justices swing back towards the early. Twentieth. Century might take Trump is a symptom. Not the subject, of course, the bible verse was about chaos and the great punishment coming and the idea of the Jeremiah verse be this. She being about, you know, Old Testament God rearing up to strike down on society for banning his ways. Whereas this is a movie where taking place in America. That is sliding from democracy when a great tragedy and chaos strikes. It it really feeds into bends reading the film in a way that I found incredibly chilling in various observation from Stephen here. Yeah. That was nice too. Because it got me to go back and read even more of the jeremiad section of the bible because I just read like the immediate versus sort of book ending. An eleven eleven and I went back and looked a little bit further back, and I guess it's Jeremiah eleven six it's talking about how the Lord is telling somebody listening to the terms of this covenant and followed them from the time. I brought your ancestors up from Egypt until today, I warned them again. And again saying obey me, but they didn't let listen or pay attention. Instead, they followed the stubbornness of their evil hearts. I thought that that actually sort of read into or sort of a plate into Jacob's read a little bit as well. With like, the, you know, the idea of. Of the tethered representing Americans who just sort of turn a blind eye to a lot of this stuff a lot of these issues, and and you know, following ju just putting your head down and not listening and paying attention. When the answer is presented to you. I don't know there's a lot going on with this movie. So I feel like yet that there's a ton to be read into pretty much every aspect of it though. I re watching this movie with both viewer interpretations in my head. I did notice a couple of things like there is the whole argument. The family is having the argument over, you know, who had the highest kill count in the family, which to me seems like the most American argument ever going to do a Benz point. And that that really like, I think that's the one of the biggest thing that that ties into what Brad was talking about on Friday's episode where you're getting caught up in these little details that don't matter when there's a much bigger problem right there on the surface. For for everybody to deal with. But it's these distractions that that ultimately can be our undoing yet. I sort of throw something out there in that ties into the whole. America. And forgotten American pass thing is I actually haven't seen a lot of people pointed this out, I don't know if they didn't catch it or not or what? But at the beginning when she goes into the fun house. It has this like data of American thing. I think it's called vision quest and there's like this caricature of a native American outside. But then when she comes back in the present it's been turned into lake Merlin's, far it's like this fantasy thing. And I think that ties into the whole push American angle tour. It's like, you know, just burying this thing for the past and turning into something not not even real like, the wizards and magical forest and stuff like that. I did not notice that that's a good catch. Another thing. I noticed was when they were at their friend's house in Adelaide was arguing that they should leave to Mexico. The husband her husband insists that they they're in the safest point a place on the planet or something like that. Which also seems to me. Going towards spends kind of interpretation of this whole thing. It seems like a very American thing to say one other thing I noticed I I did notice this is the first time around, but I I don't think I took any meaning into this. But the opening of the text of the film where shocking about the underground tunnels ends with the line. This says like many have no known purpose. And then the rest of the text disappears leaving just that one line. I think if you read that one line that that that also is something, you know, obviously that speaks on different levels to the the themes of those film, which I thought was kind of interesting 'cause you know, obviously, it's not just talking about the tunnels in hope people view a certain segment society having no purpose not being useful to the machine of America. Not being a player, it'd be ground up in use it. Yeah. That's really chilling. We actually take in that. Context. Yeah. One other thing. I did notice the second time around actually, no, I didn't notice this one of my friends cleaning set pointed out that red is the only one of the, tether who can talk, and that's kind of cool because that's a very good clue into the twist of this film in even Adelaide toes. Elizabeth Moss's character on the beach that quote, I'm not good at talking. So I mean, it's just like little hints. But I think that's kind of fun. The oh, the other Chris, I'm sure you noticed this one this one was kind of like a a horror Easter egg. But the dad mentioned on the Santa Cruz boardwalk than a movie is being filmed nearby and tells her to like, maybe she could be an extra in the scene is being is taking place in one thousand nine hundred six and at the time. The lost boys was being filmed on Santa Cruz boardwalk. Yes. I did. I did actually catch that. And I thought that was fun. Yeah. One of the thing. I didn't notice first time round is. I did I was. Aware that the tethered all wear those gloves by wasn't aware that they were wearing gloves on their right hand. Just like Michael Jackson. Just, you know, the the person who is on the shirt that barade-, I guess. One. Yeah. Yeah. They're all wearing red jumpsuits like Michael Jackson famously did in many of his that is that is well did not figure that out. But one last thing Adelaide smile at the end of the movie where she looks over to her son who's sitting in the passenger seat. And she smiles, Chris, I think you mentioned just a few minutes ago that that was her realization, or I I've heard many people say that that's her realizing, and I'm wondering what do you guys think like is that her realizing or is that what does that smile? Meet. I mean, it has to be her realizing just by the nature of film editing. The way Jordan Peele cuts. It is that you know, it's her face and then it cuts to the flash bag and then it cuts back to her. And if you know if it wasn't supposed to be that, then it would imply Jordan Peele doesn't understand editing, and that's true. So I do think it's her realizing whether or not that means she's just like, suddenly, you know, evil now, I don't think it's implying. That I think it's more like she's just realizing who she really is. And just being okay with it now because she in the end, she won, you know, she's still got away with it. I disagree with Chris here. I feel that smile is victorious smile. It's are realizing that she's going away with it. But it's it's also her getting away with the having known the entire time. I mean, she she she's not talking. We see her going through therapy learning how to talk again, and how to learn how to essentially be a fully functioning above ground, human, go back and rewatch all the seems earlier in the movie. Like, of course, I've always wanted. So please, correct me Peter the scenes play out in a way that makes total sense of her to have known everything, of course, can keep a secret, but the seams between Adelaide and red play very much like a a woman who's extremely guilty and afraid that her guilds Cup with her as opposed to woman, who's just terrified and reds actions are very much that of a woman scorned. Out for revenge. So I really feel like the final reveal isn't just a twist on the face of oh, she's been telling you the whole time. But the reveal that everything we've seen her do her terror was not born out of just being, you know, randomly assaulted, but Tara out of knowing the her past caught up with her. This is really interesting because I find it I land right in between both of you. I feel like she had like a sub-conscious knowledge. Right. Denser. Really? She does mention early in the film that she remembers this encounter with an someone that looked like her in that fun house. So she at least remembers that moment. See I I read it. I read the whole movie and Jacobs ideas. Now, very intriguing to me. But I I read it as you know, it was like an a repressed memory. You know, it's clear she's been through therapy because we see her at a therapist's office. And there's the whole, you know, learning to dance thing. And you know, I always took it as to be like a therapist or something along that line. Line convinced her that, you know, these thoughts were delusions are things that were just in her head, and she said repressed them over time, and this huge traumatic experience through the movie triggers, the real memory, and that at the very end she's finally realizes what she's been repressing the whole time. That's how I interpreted yet Jacobs ideas, certainly is interesting. And now I wanna go back and rewatch it even more. I've also seen some people read this moment as the sun realizing that the there's you know, the mother has is not who she heard what she seems. I've I've seen someone actually suggests that the sun is one of the tethered to which I don't buy, but I'll even work. Well, they point out the fact that, you know, the the one we think is the tethered version half his mouth is burned off. So that would explain why he can't talk. But again, I don't know how. How that would even make sense, you know, so I don't know the only thing I think is there's that one scene where the sun goes off. And he spots the the homeless guy on the beach in that it cuts away. But and then the the he comes back he comes running back. But we don't see what happened to him between the moment. He sees that homeless guy on the beach, and like maybe that. Oh, but then I don't know like when he would get his mouth Burnley. He would have to have it really quick is that it seems like it's in the span of like the same day. So I don't know. I don't think that makes much sense. But I have seen people suggest that I don't buy that at all. By do think that this ties you have been to justed, which is if rabbits are symbols for ideas, and the sun is, you know, literally, actually in the film carrying a rabbit, aka new idea he could idea represented him having the newfound knowledge of what his mother is. You know, we have a lot more questions on the DACA here. We've already were already thirty three minutes in. So you know, I'm gonna make the executive decision here. We're gonna get to one more question. We're gonna get to one more Email from the the mailbag wall hold these in. Hopefully, you know, each can join us next time and tell her talk about some of her interpretations this movie not drag out off into a three episode. You know, do it. That's what I love about it. Yeah. Okay. Kevin writes in that the frisbee the frisbee lands on the the what does that blanket or towel? And it lands perfectly on the towel. He hear us that the frisbee represents tethered at Adelaide taking original Adelaide's place in the living with the original. Hence the red frisbee. Tethered Adelaide is covering the blue circle. Original adelaide. In being surrounded by other blue circles with her pretending to fit in her removing the frisbee is her her denying who she is in that she should belong above. What do you guys? Think of that interpretation is this too much of a read like this is one of the few things in the movie that I'm not sure how it connects to everything like, I know one of the characters mentions like moments a coincidence. That's her character. Character is the one who says since we've been up here. I've been noticing more and more coincidences, and that gave me a little pause might think back on it too. Because other than Ted frisbee thing. I can't really eleven eleven. I can't think of any other coincidences she's talking about. So that was one thing. I really didn't quite get. There's a really amazing video that Vanity Fair made when get out was invaders where it was the gave. Jordan Peele list of fan theories from red at discussing moments from get out and some of them he shot down saying. Nope. It's not true. Some he openly encouraged hang up. This was totally intentional wonder where he jokingly said. Oh, yeah. I totally thought of that. That was totally intentionally up. Louise, clearly really thought about it wanted to get this frisbee moment is one of those. Yeah, I'm I'm wondering there's some intense stuff that we we have gotten in our Email. We will get to it. But there's one final thing. I want to bring out just because I want to see what you guys think because as podcast. So what thing I thought was really interesting is this movie and the movie climax beginning the same exact way where there's a shot of TV and the TV is surrounded by these VHS tapes in the VHS tapes are movies that clearly influenced the movie were about to see like, for instance, climax you can see the movie possession, which is a huge influence on that. And this movie it has the. Same thing. I the I spotted like showed there and shut is a movie about creatures living underground, and I'm just wondering if any of you picked up on those other tapes, the only other one I know it was the right stuff. I don't know how that fits in. Because that's a movie about, you know, the space program all wear jumpsuits. So I don't know what what else that's doing there. But I'm wondering if anyone else picked up on that. And what the other titles were I noticed the same openings here. Because literally, Chris, right? The both moves with extent ac- close ups of a TV show to my VHS tapes and the right stuff clicked to me as the most American movie imaginable, the one that's how Americans when we when we worked together achieve the impossible right next to me about cannibalistic human underground dwellers. So just. And just really great contrast. There were a couple of others to there's the goonies. I mean, and I guess, you know, there's a line in there in the speech. That's it's our time. Now, our time up there that I think is kind of relevant in that. There was the man with two brains. That's like a Steve Martin comedy. I don't really I've never seen that. So I'm not sure I guess because there's two event what I really want to see this again, like take notes on like every single scene. I wish her on Blu Ray, just like like pause it and stuff the the other one that's on. There is a nightmare on elm street. So that's what alone. Into so much craven influence, Wes Craven's all over this movie. And so I just make sense as a tonal influence yet. But I want to hear more of your Email. So if you have some interesting theories or noticed something that we did not send them to us at Peter at Sasha dot com. That's Peter 'social dot com, and we hopefully, we'll get all get all these emails, you know, when there's a slow news day, and we can, you know, geek out more of a spoilers. We really enjoyed this movie. Hopefully, you guys are enjoying us talking about it. You can find you know, will link to that Jordan Peele video the one that you mentioned Jakup from Vanity Fair in the show notes. 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The Moth Radio Hour: Changes of Heart

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The Moth Radio Hour: Changes of Heart

"From typhoid Mary to the origins of policing every headline has a story join ROM team are Louis and Rund Abdelfatta hosts of the through line NPR's history podcast. Listened to through line from NPR every Thursday. This is a moth radio hour from PRI and I'm Susanne Rust the curatorial producer at the mall. This time we'll hear stories about changes of heart. Those moments when something shifts and altered your perspective. We'll be hearing a writer who sense of self has changed in a flash, a story about a man who made it across the finish line despite the obstacles and a mother who realize that sometimes it's more than okay when your life goes off script. which is exactly what happened with our first storyteller. Andrea King Collier. She shared her story at the West Virginia Culture Center in Charleston, West Virginia or the theme of the night was a more perfect union. Here's Andrea live with them off. I got married in nineteen, eighty two. And we were so cute. But we couldn't have been more different. I was privileged to little only child. Of. Of. Quite a lot. And my husband was one of six. When I first met his parents I said. How do you remember six names? And that did not go over well. But we did have something in common. We were kids of the sixties. and. Redid civil rights marches. Register people to vote. Renew about segregation. And we knew that our folks expected a whole bunch out of us. We would air legacy. and. They had a script for us. That we passed onto our two kids when we got married our whole family unit. Was the huxtables before they were huxtables. Impact. Armato was. Into this world and take you out. And the kids knew it my daughter. Bal the script. She got her dream job after going to her dreams school married her dream man headed green baby. and. Then quit her dream job to take care of the Dream Baby. My son on the other hand had a script of his own. Would he did was his script involved living in the basement and never coming out No matter how much we tried to get him out of the basement. It wasn't happening through money at it we through exterminators. Still Basement. Except for one day. He just left. and. He stayed gone for. A couple of weeks. Now. A young man goes off and does his thing you will think anything about it without any notice no tax no phone calls. is his mother got worried because it's not a good thing for black man to go disappear. It worried me. And just when I was about to call the police, he calls me. And he says, mom. I need to come over because I have something to tell you. Now, if you have a kid who's of a certain age and they say, I have something to tell you what you know is nothing good is going to come out of that conversation. When these conversations come up they do not say. I hit the lion. And the habit of money to move out. Mama got a new job and I have a new enough money to move out. You see where I'm going with the smooth out then. Mom I have met beyond say. She has fallen in love with me. She's leaving JC and I'm moving out. None of that is happening. I started thinking about all things that it could be. Get really worried and go tell my husband that he's on his way over and he says, well, it won't be that long. I'm looking out the window and he's pacing up and down the driveway. He's rehearsing. It's comfy a doozy. So he comes upstairs. And he says. MOM WE'RE GONNA have a baby. Who Don't have a baby He has a girlfriend but I have only seen her from the waist up in the car. Now under order circumstances because this is not the script. Got a simple scrip Code College. Get a good job. Don't go to jail they'll get anybody pregnant. And he said. We're GONNA have a baby. So my head Coulda popped off my shoulders. But something happened. We'll see the god Boyce. Good voice or the. Voice, which is the crazy voice. Said asked Kim to say it again. and. I say were you say that again for me? And he says. We had a baby yesterday. You know that could kind of wrong. Instead because I'm shot I, say how Nice for you? Thinking in my head. Calm this down. Asked race basic questions. Are, Mama, and baby fine. Are they home from the hospital. And then the thing that I want to know for some reason this what's the baby's name? Because millennials can come up with some Helvin anes. And Black LINEAS can really come. No they could be Jag Danielson. The. Apple. What's the baby's name? The baby's name is miles. Okay, that's good. That was the best thing at the whole damn thing. and. As I was trying to explain to him that we have colds. So we can't go that day to see the baby. He gets the hell up outta there before I figure out, he's gone. He's gone. So, what do you do when you are a new grandmother? There is no baby to see. And you don't have a nine month just station period. I get in the car and I go to target. They'll let me tell you something about. You can work out a whole lot of shit in the house. So I get there and I don't go to the baby section. I'm everywhere else. But, the God boy, so the. To me. Called Gussie. Now. gussie is my mother's oldest friend. And when my mother died she and several of her other friends stood in the gap for me. And when I need to figure out something I call. So I call and I'm fine until I hear her voice. And I am hysterical. I like having a fit in the store. He hit a baby. I didn't know a saw from the hill. Whole heating script I'm this going. And people are watching and target trying to figure out what the Hell is going on. Later you'll pay. My Mother's France says. Let me get this straight. Christopher has a baby. Yes. Had yesterday. Yes. You didn't now. Yes. Is Baby GonNa live with you know okay. Let's start with that. Then she says. Okay. This is what you're gonNA stop crying. You put on your big girl pants and you're going to be the best damn grandma. You know how to be because that's what you had. Okay And then I had questions but she hung up the phone. And said everything she needed to say that she was. Out of the air. So, what do I do I stopped battle everything in the baby section I bought so much stuff that my husband had to go back and get the rest of the crack. On the way home I really upset. So I come in and my husband is there and my daughter is visiting. And I said why the Hell did anybody not tell me. And my daughter says. Well, you are really scary. You are. Oprah scary. And I'm thinking. Oprah that's not bad? This not no. Not. You get a car, you get a car, you get a car oprah. You are missile feel over. You told Hypo too. And a problem with that but. She goes on to explain this. You know the Wiz year you know even lean who says No bad news. Yeah you even lean. You are clair huxtable. From the day we were born, you got the clair huxtable side I before she. Wasn't wanted not to say about it. Sometimes, you just gotTa give it up. So I waited and waited few days. So we could actually see the baby. We go to see the baby and I had never met her folks before impact I'd never had a conversation with her. So we get there, they bring the baby out. Put. The baby in my arms. and My heartbreak. Broke Wide Open. I've never experienced anything like that. Not even loan kids. This beautiful baby. And I looked at him and some are husband and I saw my daughter. So me. But I also star my son, the baby's father. And I saw all the people in my life who had ever love me in this baby's face. So I started looking at my purse. And started looking at the baby the perse again. How do you think it would be before I put the baby in the person That they would figure out. So. My daughter had been texted me to hold tag. Tell me not to do anything. Crazy. And this this, I was about to bus that move. I heard the tech Lloyd's. Today. But it was weird. So I'm looking at the baby. And I'm thinking about Tony Morrison. When my kids were teenagers. I heard Tony Morrison. Say. When the child walks into the room does your face light up. Okay they were teenagers. Nobody's face was lighten up for them. But with miles. My face was all lit up. And I remember the rest of it which is. When your child walks into the room does your face light up being 'cause? That's how they know how you feel about them. and. I was determined at that moment for the rest of my life. When ever he walked into the room, my face was GONNA light up because I want him to know he is just that loved. Thank you. That was Andrew Collier Andrews a journalist photographer and author based in Lansing Michigan she and her husband Darnay have been married for almost four decades. In addition to miles, Andrew Daughter has given her another grandson bryce. Andrea talks about her grandchildren she says. I look at them in wonder they take my breath away. So. Here's a fun fact. Andrew two grandsons call her Gogo. And once you get to know Andrea Gogo seems very appropriate. She's a true force of nature. I was lucky enough to spend some time with Andrea when she did our main stage show in new, Orleans. And we had a great time hanging out and buying way too many balls pots off. So I was happy to catch up with her again recently. So, Andrea this is so great to talk to you my friend. So. Much has changed since the two of us were frolicking in New Orleans a few minutes ago. So I just want to ask you honestly, how're you doing and what are your thoughts on this moment we're living in? It's it's crazy. So I was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, six, and so I lived through the first big wave of the Civil Rights Movement And this is different. This feels totally different. So I'm really interested to see what comes out of this. Yeah that's. Sitting there waiting. It feel different though I hope we're GONNA make progress here I really do I wanted to ask you something you mentioned in your story you talk about being raised to be a positive reflection on your race and passing that along to your kids you talk in your store about following a script and like we all know that all parents have a script in mind for their kids. But as black people, the stakes are higher. I really think that it was probably a bigger burden for my kids then it was for me. I don't know that I really had any choice I followed. Louis gripped I was the first one in my family to get a college degree and there was no I mean, we never had any conversation about, hey, when you get outta high school, what are you GonNa do already knew what I was going to do and my friends sometimes we sitting around talking about how we were as kids somebody said the of day. Oh no nobody was going to get close to you rail your folks script for you. Everybody that oh. Okay. The most militant thing that I did that was off script was I did not go into politics. Oh. Is that expected of you? At. The this this time, my friend, I think the world's. Andrea right now. And no, but. You can make your announcement here for us. Kim No but I think that my grandparents would've loved that that would have been the American dream for them. Yeah. But. It's pretty great. Yeah. They wouldn't quite understood that they like what is it because I know my earned by the use of what is it the two? That was Andrew Kinkel earlier Aka Gogo. You can hear more of our conversation at the mosque dot Org. Coming up. What's in a word? A writer from Pittsburgh reflects on a life altering experience he had with one of the most toxic words in our history. That's when the moth radio hour continues. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by Atlantic public media in Woods Hole Massachusetts and presented by P Rx. Success is not often achieved by the work of one person alone it takes a team Monday. Dot Com offers a flexible platform to manage any team project or workflow online know exactly where things stand at any time with multiple ways to view the progress of any project whether you work with a team of five or five thousand Monday dot com is the easiest way to keep everyone aligned. Let Monday dot com take care of the busy work. So you can focus on what drives you to start your free fourteen day trial good a Monday dot com. This is the moth radio hour from pr ex I'm Susanne Rust. In this show, we're talking about changes of heart. Now, we're going to hear from writer, Damon, Young I, WanNa give you all a heads up. The story contains multiple uses of historically heavy controversial word that stirs up a lot of pain and emotion. It always has and always will. But. We'll let Damon speak for himself. And another heads up Damon told the story our moth main stage at the Greenwood cemetery in Brooklyn, an outdoor venue. Obviously. Evening was filled with firefly light and the sound of crickets. But also, and you'll hear this. The sound of jets flying overhead. Here's Damon Young live at the mall. So before I begin like I have to say that between the setting obvious audience, this connor feels like a deleted scene from goodell like. I don't know from up here to tell the story get auctioned off so. All right. So I'm from Pittsburgh Pittsburgh PA born and raised, and I still live there now. And for people who haven't been there. Is a city that is so. Spiritually culturally politically. atmospherically white. That Rick James Tried the snorted. Like it gets is a city that gets these. These national lots being like the most livable city and the next Brooklyn or new Seattle or the twenty first centuries. Austin. But what it really is Condo for white people. And that that provides necessary context for a very quick story about my parents who loved to tell stories. Okay. So it was one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five. Six years old I'm actually being babysat by. My sister. And my mom and my grandmother who I called Nanna. They were post on the brunch browsing at this. Deli, in Pittsburgh in this neighborhood call. Squirrel. Hill. Third or some sort of. Altercation disagreement with the cashier who also a white boy who was maybe about eighteen years old. And it ends. With him call him, my mom and my Nanna. Black Nigger bitches. Furious. Mama. NANNA leader store. Go up the street to supermarket Giant Eagle to get my dad and my dad is. Doing what they do you know in produce probably you know Tastes steak or in the. Do and supermarkets and get him. Say Go to store. And my dad very calmly approaches the cashier. My Wife mother-in-law said that you salt at them. And I would like we do apologize Tudo. Cashier refuses. So, then my dad says, okay, well. I'm going to count the ten. Am by the time I reached ten. If you don't apologize I'm gonNA come behind that. Connor and kick your ass. But this baseball bat I forgot to mention that that my dad had a baseball bat with him. Because my dad is apparently black beaten at John. Wick. And so my dad. COUNTS LITERALLY STARTS COUNTING Cashier doesn't apologize. My Dad swings a bat them cashier picks up a knife swings of that my dad. So knife fighting and bat fighting, and this is happening over to over to register in the meantime. My mom and my Nanna and again, my mom. Big Fan of PAT metheny. steely, Dan. Tina. Turner she was a bank teller at this time my grandmother, my grandmother my Nanna wasn't his white gloves on Sunday. She was white gloves like Burger, king on Wednesday. Like white gloves e-e-e-e-no to. To wash like this was who she was and there, and again their in store throwing. Throwing jars of M. and M.'s and bigoted pickles and and racist reecey cups and just making this huge mess door. After about four or five minutes. Spills out onto two sidewalk. And the police come and my parents are arrested. And the inner taken to the police station or whatever in they're approached by some black, some sort of authority, a sergeant or lieutenant or something like that. WHO TAKES ONE? Look at them. And it's like Okay You brunch attending Bonneville drive in black people not supposed to be here to tell me what happened. So. These say what happens. And Sergeants is okay while you're free to go. What? You originally arrests you're free to go. So what about the store? If you you get the fuck out of here before he's white people figure out I'm letting you go. So, again. My parents love to stories. And they repeat the story. At barbecues. At funerals. Carpool. Taking me to you basketball games. While sitting in living, room. During Commercial Breaks And while this happen. I realized that being caught in your was like this terrible awful thing. But a part of me kind of wanted to be caught one by white person. Just, so I could fight them and beat them up and then have a cool story like my parents had. Even my sister. WHO's nine years older? Be You know head this cool. I'll call the fight story about a time when she was in high school choir practice and this white girl in a bank. Carter. Nigger and my sister kicked her ass suspended from school and she was terrified. You know that wants my parents found out. She got suspended. She would get in trouble but what my parents found out why she suspended. She thinks grounded. She got butter pecan ice cream and I wanted. I wanted my own. Post nigger fight story ICE CREAM party. Polaroid's you know clowns, Opin Yata the whole Shebang. But I didn't get it. So I moved through adolescence. Nine years old ten years old eleven your sole twelve years hopes still doesn't happen. MMA teenager now thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen still doesn't happen. And this. Induced, this really deep anxiety. And self consciousness. and. Even like neurosis NB we're. I started out environment. Like why hadn't been called this before? In a city that is so white. Am I am not black enough for white person to call me and they're like what the fuck is wrong with me. It was I. Like when the white people are called on racism and NASA. One. Black for Bob. You know who I car pool with not fight over. The NBA Games was I was I bob was like that one was I like that? You know that one black friend like basically the character Rashida? Jones plays in every movie was with me. It again I I realize helps heard it was. To have this anxiety to have this neuroses about something that is so violent. But it was my reality. And then what I'm seventeen family happens. winning. For Bus I'm in I'm it's nighttime. Like o'clock, it's a September. So it's dark on waiting for a bus but myself I was going to go downtown to go play basketball for tonight. In as I'm waiting there. This Ford F fifty comes speeding pass. In a person driving a car lean thought the passenger side window. Screams nigger. Keep speeding away. And so when it happens. Even kind of do it. That will take like. I guess he's talking to me I'm the only person. I'm the only person standing here. In adding to I guess it's this real nature of the whole experience is that he looked exactly like Ricky Schroder. If you remember him from silver spoons, NYPD blue like I. I am not convinced it wasn't Ricky Schroder even twenty five years later. Like Ricky Schroder if you're out there listening I remember which he did that fall on waiting for you. And so this thing that I've been building up, you know this this experience I've been wanting to have. His family here. And this guy's an at Kearney speeding away and I almost I was tempted to scream at him. They come back because this is this is it. This is this. This is what I've been waiting for. This is like the blackboard this This is him. Call. Me It is I get a chance to fight him. Finally have a story you know when it's time to serve story, but he's he's passed the east past like two lights to. He's gone. So it's not gonNA happen. Then something happened to me. Felt like something broke inside of me. But. Not something bad it was. I started laughing. and. Not, even like a chuckle or like a nervous lap like, oh, my God like like tears not the ugly face. Like the ugly Steve Bannon face of last like that's how ugly this laugh was. and. I just realized in that moment. How how ridiculous it have been for me to want this to happen. Then went terrible awful thing to happen. INTO ASSIGN? Any. level. Of My racial identity. Or my blackness. The how white people treated me? An last time I did it. Thank you. Damon Young is the author of what doesn't kill. You makes you black and Co founder of a cultural blog very smart brothers. Last year, I was moved by Damon's writing. So I reached out to him to tell the story for them off. When he came back with the idea for this story, I'm not. GonNa. Lie. As an African American woman who has a deep problem with the word I was a little shaken up. I. Love The story. But should we do this? Several discussions took place in the office and feelings were mixed among black and white staffers alike. But Damon Story speaks truth about race identity and power in this country. It felt right. What does it say about us as a country? At an intelligent young man places the value and definition of his identity on this word. I look at it is one of the many complicated pieces of the uncomfortable conversations that Americans need to be having in order to grow and move forward. That night of the show as I sat in a primarily white audience I could sense that many people weren't sure how to react. There was some awkward laughter people shifting in their seats. I wish that in that crowd, there had been more people who could have related to Damon. Story? Lift him up and made him feel seen. He was so exposed. I was grateful that CJ haunt was our hosts that night and was able to give Damon story the loving and supportive landing that it deserved. Here's what Cj said after Damon Story. I can also tell by the applause. Who is a person of color also because my clap, it was hard for me not to clap for you while you're telling the story. Of just feel so seemed by that story. I've waited my life to be called the same. I just loved your story because the way you capture the absurdity. Of having violence be part of your identity and a right of passage. I think is resonant to anyone. Who is black? And I imagined partly resonant to any of those who have an oppressed identity this. Wild way where. Were you need a confrontation as To See. Yourself. And I also love the story because it makes me think about a theme that has been running through the stories tonight about what it means to. Know who you are without depending on seeing a reflection of yourself and other people. So I just want to say thank you again. That that was more coast CJ, hunt For more on Damon Young check out my interview with him on our blog and to see a picture of a young Damon go to the moth dot org. Coming up a man finds a pass to freedom. That's when the moth radio hour continues. Moth Radio Hour produced by Atlantic public media in Woods Hole Massachusetts, and presented by P Rx. This is the moth radio hour from Pr. I'm Susanne Rust. We're hearing stories about changes of heart. Our next story is from Hubert when. We first met Hugh and our annual workshop with the Innocence Network Conference back in two thousand eighteen. He told the story at our first virtual main stage, which we produced over zoom right as the pandemic took hold, and while the Cova nineteen lockdown wouldn't allow us to have our usual live shows. There was something raw and intimate about having tellers, hugh sharing their stories from their homes directly to our screens. The audio is imperfect but the emotions come through all the same. We. Call the show altogether now, the moth in your living room here's Hubert live from his home. In nineteen, eighty, nine at the age of sixteen I was wrongfully arrested and charged with second degree murder. Ostracized by many believe by a few. Still had one person who had an unwavering belief in my innocence and would dedicate everything. To prove. That even innocent and that was my father. We fought a great fight. But we lost trial and sentenced to fifteen years to life. As I was shuttled from facility to facility my father was there every visit every week the visits would fill with a strategizing how we were going to reverse what had happened We would also talk a lot about him playing saxophone playing piano, and how great it would be one day. I would be free and we could sit down and we could play together. As time would go on. The visits for less and less his health started to become an issue and the normal seven and eight our journeys at it took him to come upstate New York and visit me. Will becoming a little bit harder to do. In two thousand. My father had to sell the house and he moved back to his native Jamaica. Although we kept in contact through writing and we still did our strategizing about proving my. We were on a visit we weren't indivisible. It wasn't like the visible nothing could replace those visits. One day I had gotten a letter. And it said that my father was coming back to the country. I was excited. The Guy who had been in every visit with me had been in every courtroom was finally coming back. The day came. That Saturday morning I was up. And Cell Door opens and you can hit a metal on metal. But I heard this one thing that I long near. Burton. You have a visit. I made my way out of the cell and out into the hallway. The hallways normally have this grey battleship kind of collapsed very depressing. But today they didn't feel it in look the same they looked like they had a lot of life I had extra bobbin must step. I knew what it was. I was going to see my guy. I finally get to visit. Where I get I in are two doors. And I went through first door and then there was a like a vacuum of got to the second door because the second door opens it's just a flush of noise their wives, talking husbands, mothers talking to sons and children running around. Zoll. Great. It was a sounded I hadn't heard a while. Finally I saw my father. And I made a beeline to. Join closer to him. I noticed. Wow he has aged considerably since I last seen him. Wow in his hair is completely white now, and he's a bit hunched over uses the assists Kane. But noted that matter I know what time does. My Guy was here to see me traveled all this way in his first stop was here to see me. I embraced him. And, when I held him, he felt much much more frail than I remember. But it was okay. I'm braced my cousin who came with them. And we spoke and I thank for bringing him up. So we all sat down. As the visits in my mind was racing, there was so many things I wanted to ask him. How's the transition? How is everything going? Muzani. Did he get a chance to do any practicing while he was and I wanted to tell him how good ad got playing the piano? kind of fell down a little bit better than him, but you know. So I was excited. So. As we're talking or I'm doing most of the talking I'm noticing that he's not really as engaging as I remember visits to be in the past. I'm thinking maybe he's just overwhelmed with being here. So you know it doesn't matter. So. I said, well, let me ask something there is that he has to give me a more definitive answer a more explained answer. So we'd be end to talk about music and I know with news that could usually take us maybe two or three hours on visit. When asked him about? His response was still. Snow. In. Attorney my cousin and I asked her I. Said Is Everything. Okay. What's going on with it? And she said, well, you know as the latest memory has been been beginning to slip and fade. I knew he had dementia before he left, but this was a bit different. This felt different. But I didn't WANNA. I DIDN'T WANNA. Let the Davy dammit I continue to keep talking and talking and I notice he asked me for cigarette. But at first I didn't really paid any mind because I thought he just will maybe just wanted to smoke. And We contained visit any ask again. But I knew I said my father knows the policy. With cigarettes if you leave, you cannot come back in because the visit has terminated. He knows this I'd notice he has been in these visit votes for thirteen years back and forth. But still astle will will discontinue with the visit. And then everything kind of came full circle when we're still talking he referred to me as Wayne. Wayne, is my brother's name. And I knew in that moment that the guy who was champion in my call from the age of sixteen. Who is in every courtroom in every visit? Didn't know who I was. crushed. Because, this is the only one that I knew. who was believing in would never stop. So, as we went on when he asks would a cigarette again. Told my cousin I said you know. Allow them to have the cigarette and she said, are you sure? And I said yes some. Said with all of the services I said to myself with all that he has done with all areas sacrificed. Just allow to have the cigarette is not much. I couldn't be so selfish as to just WANNA, keep him here in the visit more though that's what I wanted to. Toll Allow Mave is cigarettes so we ended the visit. And as we got up. Embracing my just held him. And it was so much always wanNA conveyed worse just couldn't express. How much I distinctively appreciated for 'em just being. Fully. Hug My cousin who told him take care of him watch over him. And I'm watching them leave. And I'm supposed to leave the visit from I. But today I didn't WanNa. Leave I needed to watch him leave. Because there was something in me saying that when he leaves this visible new may not see him again. And I could hear the officers in the background calling me Burton. Burton. But I just needed to see him leave. So as he left and I went through the other doors and I made my way back down the hallway, the hallways returned back to their normal drab color. And got back, to, the cell. Door close and in that moment when it shut. I knew I was alone by myself. But. I knew I had to do something because we started out fight together. And it was it was yet to be finishes yet to be completed. I laid that whole evening. Just kind of quiet. My Dad died. Sixteen months later. I got paroled for years after. But when I got home. I knew again that had this fight was done. Yes. We wanted me home, but it remained we needed to prove my innocence. I went about trying everything that I could approve my innocence and finally one day a little over a year ago. Gotten a phone call about nine thirty at night. TURNI's. Any. told me that. The Bronx courts. Have decided to overturn the conviction. You've been exonerated. The truth had finally come out. I was happy. I was relieved. Sad Happy because I had finally won. Relieve because I could take a burden off that was not my eyes to bear. But sad because my guy wasn't here to see through to the end. Finally. Two Thousand and Nineteen January twenty. Four. I was exonerated. At Bryn Bronx courts? And the first thing they ask me. What is it that I wanted to do? I said I wanted to run the New York City America. And I wanted to run it for a few reasons one because the marathon always represented from the staying of course. And two because I wanted to take a victory lap around the city that had taken everything from me. And finally today to marathon came. And Iran. And when I got about seventeen, maybe eighteen miles and. I was looking cross the Willis Avenue Bridge. And saw the Bronx courts. Same building at had taken everything, my freedoms and everything. Iran pass it in a victory lap. And then back down through Central Park. And as I crossed the finish line. I knew I said adding just crossed this myself. Across this with me and my father and former fault. Thank you. That was Hubert. At, the end of his story Hugh stood looking at the camera on his computer while thousands were watching from their homes. Hubert is an exemplary marathon, runner writer, producer, public speaker, and advocate for the innocent. Hugh was actually falsely accused and convicted of killing his mother. This happened when he was only sixteen years old. The Moth Jody Powell who directed Hughes story sat down to talk with him. I think especially for those who listen to your story are will listen to your story I think maybe we should just address it. About. What happened to your mother? Right well, you know. My Dad was in Jamaica visiting his mom. So I left the school that morning and I ended up coming back early that afternoon in I noticed that the master bedroom was a jar. And when I went in is when I made discovery there. That's when everything kind of started to to snowball on I was numb from that point. On they questioned me and eighty two days later. After taking me to my godmother's house. They pick me up again and said you know they wanted to ask me the same questions again and I hadn't eaten I hadn't really slept. And because I can only keep saying in my head when I came to walk. To discover. and. They saying that they had evidence that that I committed the crime and I mean S- On for hours. Until, they finally convinced me that this was the best option for me would be to say that I did this if not, it's going to be much worse knowing nothing about law. Never being in any type of police interrogations custody or anything like that. I didn't know and They got me to sign a confession and that set off everything. A tried to speak to people. Are around the age that I was when this happened to me. Because I know what I know what those offices did. I know what they played on. And I never want to see anyone have to go through that again. So I speak to let people try to let people know who may not know what their rights saw. What they don't have to what they should ask for. The other reason, I speak. Wherever I get a chance to is to let people know what the adults, what they're responsible adults into a sixteen year old child and that they they still need to be held accountable for what they did. Holding people accountable as me giving my parents but they deserve so. That's why speaking. Times. When I would be hollering at the top among that I didn't commit this no one was listening. That was Hubert. We at the mall wish you all strength and resilience during challenging times. That's it. For this episode we hope you'll join us next time for the Moth Radio Hour. Your hostess our was the most senior curatorial producer Susanne Rust. The stories were directed by Kathryn Burns Sarah Austin Genetics Jody Powell. The rest of the most direct toil staff includes. Sarah Haberman Jennifer Hickson and make bowls production support from emily couch. Most stories are true is remembered affirmed by the storytellers our theme music is by the drift other music in this hour from Landay. See Christian, McBride and Sonny Rollins the moth is produced for radio by me Jay Allison with Vicky Merrick at Atlantic. Public Media in Woods Hole Massachusetts get support from the National Endowment for the arts. The Moth Radio Hour is presented by pr ex for more about our podcast for information on pitching us your own story and everything else the or website them off dot. Org.

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10/11: Start or Sit (AFC), Rest of Season Outlooks (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS. I dot com. Get your lineup, said, get time I stored or sit. Here. So. Got a lot of hold games this week. Starter eight games. They believe that e blooded gate for tomorrow show everybody Jamie today. Out of as Dave Richard and he Cummings. I got a little upset about something fellows. I love the London games, but I really like when they're at nine in the morning Easter instead of one. It's just like another game is at one o'clock. Give me a nine AM. I think you actually get that home on check my schedule. Good, good. Check it out my place mat. We talked about my placement, so flash schedule, we have not. Dave looks like Andy Reid like he's got this year. Last year we got to the end of the season and it was like three little crumbs. Dave was holding together with like all sorts of marinara stains on it. We've got London games in consecutive weeks, and I believe at least one of the next two are those early morning games that you speak of, which are amazing because then yes, tennis on for over twelve hours of the morning game. I love it out of your fan of mornings general. The mornings are fine. We've got wait way too much stuff going on on a Sunday morning further to be a football game happening at the same time. The next two weeks weeks, six weeks, seven and eight Tennessee and the chargers eagles and the Jaguars nine thirty AM eastern faddem your wishes granted. All right, how 'bout that, hey, listen, great app for you. The Google assistant. We talk about it all the time of fantasy. Football actually does a lot more than just fantasy football. It's very small part of why the Google assistance. Awesome. And. All season long, CBS sports, delivering the best fantasy football advice directly through the Google assistant, you'll be able to compare players and get insights into insights. Excuse me into who to start, sit at and drop, and we will turn to Dave and heath later to find out how this works. We will give it a little Google assistant demo as we discuss genus Winston and Ben Rothlisberger. All right. So we got those eight games coming up, I twenty minutes or so we'll be more general fantasy stuff. Wanna read a lot of emails. Here's a segment called eight emails in four minutes. Here we go from David subject Deontay Forman dear Bros. do you think the foreman will be active in week? Seven. This is such an ultimate stash considering the running back situation and Houston such a lottery ticket to lead your team to the championship. Why aren't you talking more about the auntie Forman? I think if he wasn't going back from the achilles injury, we'd be talking about. Him a lot more. We just don't know what he's going to look like. I think the Texans don't know what he's going to look like. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed the Texans haven't exactly been vaxgen of rushing this year. Their offense of line is really bad at run blocking. They're slightly better at pass blocking. They're bad at both, and I'm not sure what you're going to get out of Forman. Yeah, I think they're like the sentiment ear from David is right. This is a lottery ticket, but if lottery tickets were guaranteed to hit, then they wouldn't be lottery tickets. Like there is a lot of risk with Deontay, Forman risk number one that he's not the same running back. We saw last year and we've really not seen running backs, come back from Killys, tears, and have success in the NFL football players in general, a couple of defensive players last year, one of the dolphins edge rushers or was Libya Vernon was a burner wake. One of the two of them had the akilah. If you really wanna know earning, but we've not seen running backs do this yet, and the Texans have one of the worst offensive lines and football. So yes, he should be stashed okay. Remember eighty miles in four minutes. So thank he should be stab at one Email in six minutes. The day format is on the pup list. Not I are. So he is eligible to come back after six weeks, wake as the one coming back from the achilles Keenan in Los Angeles says, dear Kristen, lake, Alexander and liberty. Those rebels, should I try to trade? Should I try and trade for James, Connor in the off chance that Lebanon bell gets traded to Philadelphia or another contender in need of a running back. It depends on what you have to give up to get him if it costs too much too many good players or even one really good player, then forget it. Not worth, you know, it'd be better for eighty males in four minutes. If these will start sick questions where we could answer them with one word, then we could get through twelve emails like we're getting into like the theory of what the Steelers are going to do with well, and I feel like each E-mail should get about thirty seconds. I think we just hit it on this one. Okay. So who do you like better recipes? Connor Abell. I have bell trade value higher than Conner's. I'd take Connor. Okay. Matt says you guys kept giving a stat over the summer saying, James Winston led the league and something, and I can't remember what I just picked him up and I'm starting him this week. So I'd love to know what James Winston led the league in last year in the games that he started and finished. He was on pace to lead the league in passing yards nearly five thousand yards day ago. I was gonna say he led the league in finger eating memes. Finger eating memes. Remember the WWW though. I don't remember that at all. Google eating a w. Okay. From Bill dear Peter Klatt quagmire Joe in Cleveland, I need to sit one in a standard scoring league. Aaron Jones, Shawn McCoy, or Corey. Clement. I think I'm sitting McCoy. Are we sure he's going to get the same type of workload that he got last week that's typically the workload that bills running back yet in victories out only. This is gonna be a victory for sitting Aaron Jones, eat it. You're not very excited about Aaron Jones. What might McCarthy's not very excited about Aaron Jones? I know like we're worried about is living or is Shawn McCoy gonna get the same workload that he got last week is Aaron Jones going to get more work than he's ever. Got, okay. I'd be fine with him on thirteen touches. So this is a really weird me. Eating. You didn't see that. It's really weird. I hate it. This is from Richard Hong in California, dear sandy, Clayton, oral infra. No, those are baseball players. Dodgers pitcher specifically, dodgers pitchers is Kyle use chick in Rb to this week. I can see him getting a dozen targets in the passing game, and maybe six carries, am I crazy Kyle us p p r flex. I don't think he's getting secures. I don't think he's getting a dozen targets. Now, here's a good Email from will that said it weren't good. They were. You guys might want to quote unquote temper expectations for golf at Denver this week supposed to be in the mid twenties with snow during the game on Sunday. I doubt he has much experience in such conditions. Also, we know Saint Louis was the greatest show on earth. What do you think of the greatest show on surf for the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, that's not bad. I agree with the golf thing, even if his receivers are healthy, he's never in his life, played football in these conditions. Sure. He's so eighth grade. He went on a trip. Action. They didn't Lake Tahoe. It was really cool. Twelve, maybe ten, then it probably Pac twelve. I'm not sure the pack something teams are in the league. There's twelve now. I am a little bit concerned and the only the only real concern for him coming out of college was what. Number. There's really good. It's got tiny little as hands. So would you start ally or Wentz over Goff because this is actually and I looked at the weather like it's going to be freaking cold. Denver I, this is really important. So would you start ally or went over Goff as of now, I've went and Eli, head of Gough. Part of that is not because of the weather, it's because of the health of his receivers. It looks like those guys are going to have a chance to play. I have a hard time sitting him. I don't even with the weather being what it is. I hate benching guys for weather unless it is such obvious conditions that it's going to be detrimental to the entire game. I'm not sure I would if I was going to use whether as an excuse in the history on whether it's pretty spotty, I'm not sure. Eli and wince would be the guys that I'd be saying, oh, let's use them because of the weather say we can be a monsoon in New York tonight. All right. That's a good point. We can revisit tomorrow, but I'm just saying for the people that have to make that decision tonight. Yeah. Ask me tomorrow if they're starting over and I'll tell you for sure. I, this is Jeremy, dear, Jack Frank, Jackie, Frank, Susan, and Morty that what I don't think I know the bills defense has been impressive and fantasy the last three weeks. Why are you guys so low on the bills. S. t. so one of the things that I do when I track a DSP and consider starting them is I see how many fantasy points a team has allowed to opposing DSP's Houston. This year has only allowed double digit fancy points to a t. once it was last week and it was ten points. So the bare minimum and I just think the Texans are going to put up a good number, not the ball over a ton. I think you can do better than buffalo this week. Okay, right. I'm moving them up up up up up eighteenth eighteen. Moves if I really from Aaron till Adam, if he grunts at the beginning of the regulators music one more time, I will have to stop listening to the show. So gross. I'm a little said that you do the regulators without me doing my yelling well, then do do work harder on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, I guess. So he's the show come on the show for the last five minutes days. So everybody knows say I am right outside the podcast on Wednesdays, watching film and writing players for the start, sit sleepers risks column. Yeah, I need that our. I'm sorry, it's all good quick observation for you. If you're desperate for a wide receiver, please consider the probably very under own coats, wide receivers. Yes. Chesa Rogers is ten percent on Ryan grant is fourteen percent on Zach. Pesca is eight percent on the jets. Allow the eighth most fantasy points wide receivers. They've allowed one hundred yard receiver in four or five games. Seven wide receivers have seventy or more yards against the jets and five of those seven had seven or more catches a lot of numbers there, but just to sum it up the jets. Against receivers, and they could be down to Cornerbacks there, obviously down Johnson and BUSTER screen is a concussion. So these guys are so under own. If you need a wide receiver, please look at the Rogers. Their slot guy and luck is looking for them all the time. He's got a lot of targets over the last two games. I think he's going to have another good game this week. He is a borderline number two wide receiver. This week we are analyzing this game and just a few moments, right? Yeah, I'll save my thoughts for them. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. So I want to share a little story. Dave knows the story Haith tell you, Dave. They're very nice thing few weeks ago and he said, I wanna get your kids something at what should I get him. I don't worry about you have to get him anything to get himself. I said, you know what? He's got a lot of Miami hurricane stuff. He's got a Knicks shirt was last name on the back. Doesn't have any giants stuff. Get them giants onesie. So. I get a package a couple of weeks ago like ten days ago and. Oh, I know what this is. I opened it up all this giants like blue and red giants, LaGuardia, and it's like, it's huge. What did he get him a blanket or something like that? No, Dave got me a giants woodsy Ed. It's tremendous edit fits me perfectly. And today's the big game. And if the giants win today, we're gonna get. I play. We're going to be out. I, we're gonna win the division sanding us. I take off the headset to reveal, oh my gosh. Animas putting it on. He's had it on. No one see, this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. The tags are still on. He's not going to keep it. He's just using it as a proper, ending it back. It's a little big on you. It's big. It looks like you've got to like my size belly. Well. Size big over here, I suppose. But it's a ones that you know we need room for spitting up and stuff like that. You must absolutely love that thing. It's so funny I was cracking up and thank and then Dave did send a baby sized ones as well. So let's see that onesie. It's a little big actually. I think we're gonna have to wait 'til next football season to throw you love the ones I got you so much that the tags are still on tax. I haven't left the house yet. So you're going to. And that if if the baby ones fits in, which I don't think it will. I will consider a Halloween duet costume of giants. Onesies you're with. What are you planning on doing outside of the house with the baby on Halloween trick or treating we'll walk. We'll go with his cousin print was sandy. We'll go, you know, he's got little cousins, go trick or treating. Maybe we'll throw them. The people say, oh, it's so nice that you took your little brother out for trick or treating young man take to take two little fun size candy news notes by the way, which doesn't like steal some candy from their kids. Now, I look forward to that day. My nine year old asked me this morning, are we going to look at the calendar? He's a, he's a very anal kid when it comes to dates and times and things like that. And he says, halloween's on a Wednesday, I was like, so I was hoping it would be on a weekend or we're going to celebrate it on Wednesday, what we do to celebrate Halloween trick or treating and. Well, I can go trick or treating, is it just find some friends to go with because I don't want to do. You've got to stay home and give out candy. No altering whites off. You don't give out candy. Terrible holiday. How the wheat. Oh, it's such a, you're right. It's terrible holiday like meeting your neighbors and eating the most delicious things in the world. What a crap holiday. It's not even close to the most Alicia things in the world, and I generally have neighbors not all them in years. All right. Here we go. Ben Rothlisberger wants James Connor to stay involved after the levian bell return, which he talks about. He's if bells definitely returning seems that way anyway. I did this quick math Lebanon. Bell had four hundred six touches last year. If you take away fifteen percent of his touches and therefore fifty percent of his fantasy points. He would have been the number six running back in non PR number four and PR last year I dunno, whatever. That means anything. No one knows what's fifteen percent. Number figured let's give James Connor fifteen percent of the work. What if it's fifty percent of then we got a problem here. Rosberg by the way, also also playing through an elbow injury, but whatever he's at Cincinnati this week. Interesting. Start sit choice this week on Rothlisberger. We know he's not as good on the road. Should we be adding Chris ivory with Shawn? McCoy trade rumors. Ivory is seventeen percent owned. He had twenty three touches and one hundred twenty six total yards mostly receiving at Minnesota in one game without McCoy should be adding Chris ivory. You couldn't deep release. I don't have a problem with it. It's it's the regular ten and twelve team where you've got five or six Pence spots where I'd go not ready to get him yet. All right. Also, by the way, and I'm trying to find it. I think Shawn McCoy gave accidentally gave up the news that teams are calling to trade for him hoops gimme gimme one minute. I'll give it today, but Kansas City linebacker, Justin, Houston unlikely to play this week, ebony gonna help your bonanza pick, you know what you frigging ruin the bonanza last week you did. So they'll do it again. I mean you've already picked it. It's obviously you can't pick the falcons two weeks in a row. I can't pick the can't be. So it's obviously going to be the chiefs in three weeks in a row. So we'll see. We'll see could be Baltimore Tennessee, everyday, grooms out, Livia Vernon out. Nola Vernon we'll play. He's in. Darren sproles is out and Philadelphia defensive tackle Hello de NADA will miss. Straight game, colts, offensive line. And that's Lawson, jeez. He played nearly the entire second half of last week's game with two broken vertebrae in his spine. He said he could have been paralyzed. We are so thankful that did not happen. He is for the year. I wonder if that's gonna be a rap for slauson could who's been a really, really quality lineman is entire career. Devante Freeman has a foot injury may not play this week. That would be great for Tevin Coleman against the bucks. ITO Smith is fourteen percent on. He had ten, five and ten touches and three games without Freeman, but. Know you have Freeman and Corey Clement or window small, would you have to go with one of those guys tonight? It's the eagles guys. Yeah. And I'll tell you what Coleman has not looked good and certainly not put up the numbers. We'd like to see over the last three weeks. I wonder if the judge ends up getting a little bit more work Gino. This nickname, is it cool? Let me know when you want the little Shawn. McCoy thing. All right. Dalvin cook was limited in practice. Brandin cooks and Cooper participated in a walk through their training in the right direction. The mar- Miller says he is playing this week. Leonard fournette could be held out until we ten according to the Florida football. Insiders Greg's line is probably another week away from returning and is AM crow, MS practice. I think we still expect him to play at this point. Dave real quick that McCoy stuff. So here's the QNA with reporters yesterday. So reporter asked these rumors that you're lying to betrayed to Philadelphia. Leshan McCoy says, I heard about it. I just kinda stay focused on the job at hand. I'll let that stuff work itself out. We'll see what happens. And then he was asked, you know, whether or not a call was actually made. He goes, I'm not going to get into that. That's where my agent and the guys upstairs to work out. Third question Leshan when something like that does happen, do you contact the organization or the coaches just to kind of get a feel what's going on he goes? Yeah. I mean, sometimes this particular one, I just left it. Alone. Oops. Yeah, sounds like someone's calling for Leshan macwell. I mean, Sean McDermott didn't even deny it. So these are not even rumors anymore addressed it before he was even asked about it. Yes. So there's a training gets traded. Absolutely. And could be the eagles. All right. Hey, chew on this. That could be Tampa. Now, look, the Tennessee running backs have been among the biggest bus in fantasy the five opponents that they have faced currently rank thusly. No, like I dunno currently ranked like this. In yards per carry, allowed to running backs. I sixth, seventh, thirteenth and fourteenth. So they have had very tough competition. The things about that ac-. Running backs. Yeah, go ahead one. When you've only played four or five games, having Derek injuries twenty carries at two point five yards per pop certainly helps your season-long procureur out and to they face the ravens this week. Yes, they've as another tough match-up this week, but chargers after that in London, not so good against on yards per carry base now and then a by then by all right. So I guess you guys don't really care. You should care about our other podcasts though. Pick six podcast is awesome, great game analysis, statistical analysis, DFS analysis heath makes an appearance on that show. Check out the pick six podcast. You will love it. 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The likelihood that Philip Lindsey just starts to basically be the number of what clear cut number one running back in Denver. Thirty percent. I was gonna say thirty five percent. Okay. Now I look like a fool because he said, thirty percent person, Nelson. Nelson Nelson aga- Lor I've caught him in a couple of weeks. This is bad again. This week I would consider doing the same. I don't. This is not the same eagles offense. Carson Wentz has had some regression, but more importantly, the offensive line is not doing a good job blocking for him and the receivers are not getting separation. Wenches playing, okay, his numbers are okay. They're just not amazing. That's what the regression is and lane. Johnson might not be healthy for this game tonight against the giants that will hurt him. Mike Williams. I wanna like I want him on my team still. I do recognize that he is a little touchdown dependent, maybe a lot touchdown dependent, but I still like the outlook for him and I like that he's a part of this good San good Los Angeles offense. Heels score five more touchdowns across three different games and maybe top sixty yards twice Amari Cooper. There are some people who are cutting him and they're calling it a sabotage drop. Like that's the name for it because they're sabotaging other people's teams. He makes me nervous this week. I think he's very, very matchup dependent and quarterback dependent in order for his targets to be what you want them to be. Okay. Is he a, would you job Amari Cooper or is that premature? No, it depends on the league. If it's a small ten team non league, and I'm solid at receiver and I want to pick up one of the eagles running backs. He might be the worst player on my team, so I would cut him in that case, your analysis on Corey Davis. I still believe he's going to be a top twenty five thirty wide receiver over the rest of the season, but it may not be great this week. It's going to be good this week. It might not be good next week after that. And after their by week and week nine, it's the Cowboys than the patriots and the colts. There are some good matchups down the stretch. I think Davis could take advantage of. I would. I would continue to keep them on the bench. Chris Thompson. Love them. And I think he's practically every week starting PR and not quite as good and none. I'm terrified of him. He's hurt right now. Every time he gets a heavy workload. He seems to get hurt. If if he has a good game against the Packers, I would be trying to sell. He played the Packers last week. He had an okay game in PR. Chris Thompson, he played the saints and he doesn't play a Packer. He played the Packers weeks ago Panthers panther. So we're, we both Laos that one up pretty badly. He was limited in practice, yes. Okay. So at least to saying, okay, that's Chris Thompson, all right, one debate to get to and then we get into the games. Let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks. We're gonna Jameis Winston against the falcons and Ben Rothlisberger at Cincinnati. We're going to talk about Dave and heath have added for a bit. Then we're going to let the Google assistant aside decide. So listen, you need some fantasy advice. You tweet us Email us chase this down. You come to our homes. We can't always answer your questions we'd love to, but we can't. The Google assistant is a great tool to help you with your starter. Sit questions, your agile questions. I really do enjoy using it every week. It's very fun. Even just to settle a bet with your friends or something. Like that, ask the Google assistant, whatever. Like I said, last week, I always tell my wife use the Google assistant app on our phone because I don't want people to think that I'm running team for her. So you download the Google system happened. You say, hey, Google talked to CBS sports. Then you ask your question. We will do that in a moment. Let's let heath and Dave debate he can go. I James Winston or Ben Rothlisberger this week, like both of these guys this week, they're both top ten quarterbacks, but I will go with James Winston against a much worse defense, the Atlanta Falcons just don't have enough healthy bodies in the bodies they do have or not. They're good players. Winston will throw the ball a bunch because Tampa Bay is the worst rushing team in the NFL in this game has the second highest over under on the slate. So there will be point scored start Jameis Winston with confidence. I think that Rothlisberger is just a little bit safer. It's Winstons I start, we don't know exactly how great will be. He looked okay against Chicago a couple of weeks ago, and I know that he's been preparing. He's done a lot during his spend. To come back and be ready to play. But Roth Asperger's got a good matchup himself before last week, Cincinnati allowed two passing touchdowns and three hundred sixteen pass yards per game to every quarterback they face. That's the average brothels burger twenty one more fantasy points in three of his last four against Cincinnati. He had almost three hundred yards with two touchdowns and pick at Cincinnati last year. And this whole thing about then on the road being bad, he's had three hundred or more yards and or multiple touchdowns in each of his last six on the road. So I think that that provides a nice floor form the way that he's throwing the football to everybody, including James Caan or last week. I think that helps them get closer to a higher ceiling. I'm trusting Rothlisberger before Winston. Well, let's take a look at the Google assistant, see what the assistant essay. So I got my phone out Google assistant at which, like I said, there's a lot more than just give you fancy advice. All right. Here we go, hey, Google, talk to CBS sports. Hi, this is CBS sports and we are using our fantasy football computer projections expert. Rankings to answer your start, sit or add drop questions. Ask a question like should I add ostanek ler or should I drop Philip rivers? You can also ask us to choose between two players. Should I start James Winston or Ben Rothlisberger? James Winston is projected for more fantasy points than Ben Rothlisberger. What else would you like to know vis e be any less comfortable and could I regret this decision anymore? Probably not yet. It's killing me, Dave. How what happened. Muna minutes ago. Now we know why. Oh, I didn't. I never had any like he was not going to keep that he's takes. Absolutely. I know I am a hundred percent you that. Are you kidding me? So the Google assistant says, James Winston over Ben Rothlisberger and I hope you can see just how useful this could be. You can use the Google assistant app or use Google assistant on Android all season long by asking, hey, Google, talk to CBS sports and each week. We'll tackle key fantasy questions. So you can submit yours via fantasy football at CBS. I dot com. Or if you want your question read on h. q. live on h. q. next week, tweet at CBS fantasy at CBS fantasy for your Google assistant questions. Here we go with indie. The jets just terrible. Sorry about that. Stat of the game, New York state is home to fifty eight species of wild orchids. Oh, nice. Fifty, eight. I mean, I couldn't believe that number. I thought it'd be in the forties. Andy. Nice. Andrew luck. Big difference in the rankings here. Dave has look. Fourth heath has look for teeth about that four teens, how come. Listen. I like Andrew luck and I have been a supporter of Lux since the summer. So I don't wanna say anything negative, Andrew, but the key to his success. The last two weeks has been volume. Oh, no, kidding hundred and twenty one passing that Gillian times I completely agree with you. Go ahead heat of both of those games in the second quarter against the patriots. They were down twenty one to three. Midway through the third against Houston. They were down three scores. I don't think this jets team is the type of team that's going to build a three score lead early against the colts. And you look back at what happened to look the to remember before these last two games. What people were saying about Andrew luck always shoulders terrible you can drop Andrew luck. You can't trust. Andrew luck. Not a lot changed other than the fact that he threw a billion passes and he did play better against Houston. I did think he looked really good last week. I don't think he was as bad in the first two games that everybody was so worried about. But when you're only throwing thirty one passes against Washington because your team has a lead, you're only throwing forty against Philadelphia because they don't have a good offense and getting what is up, t, y Hilton a Jack Doyle? Exactly. The small exactly fourteenth is is kind of low. I guess. Fourth is kind of high, I guess. So Dave, discuss your thoughts on Andrew luck. Well, completion percentage over the last two weeks has been at sixty four percent. So with all the work he has been getting, he has connected very well with them, and his yards per attempt is up in obviously his touchdowns are up. He has seven passing in the last two weeks. More importantly, they can't run the ball at all. They don't have a good running game. Now, Marlin back might play this week that might repeat might change the way I feel about Andrew luck a smidge because I think he can give them a decent rushing presence for ever long. He's on the. Field, but this jet secondary is horrible. And even though the jets aren't going to put up a ton of points and put the the colts in a hole in this game, I think there's going to be no choice, but for Andrew lucked to continue throwing passes and he's not going to throw fifty times in the same. He might only throw thirty five forty times in this game. I still think that's enough for him to get you close to three hundred yards and at least two touchdowns maybe three. He's got upside and just what if on the off chance that the jets offense does put up numbers, they did it last week against Denver. This is an easier opponent for them to do it. Now, all of a sudden luck might have to throw even more than what I'm talking about. So I'm not even baking that into this. Go back to the thirty five to forty pessimists because still you talked about how his completed attempt has gone up. Yes, so it was six point one last week. He's six point one for the season. Let's assume his six point one in this game. He was seven point five against Houston to yes ago that was the only game he said above seven, but that. Could that's just any IT wild. Yes. Let's call it six point. Six point one. Okay. Times thirty five. It's going to be about two hundred fifty. It's about two hundred while I was doing temps forty times forty would get you about to forty, but I don't. He's got a throw it fifty times Jeff, three hundred dollars. On that yards per tempt average. Yes. Yeah. And I look at the last two games, right, good and bad is thrown forty. Five passes against Houston. He would've scored thirty one fantasy points. That's great. And six point passing touchdown. These if you throw in forty five passes at New England, he was twenty one fantasy points. So I think he's wars, twenty fantasy points to be clear. I think more than twelve quarterbacks twenty fantasy points. All right. All right, so so there's your luck debate and I guess that shapes how you feel about the colts wide receivers as well. Yes. These guys are averaging nine yards per reception. I also Rogers is eight catches in two straight games right when when the sixty passes just Rogers gets ten targets eleven targets, and then he catches eight passes for sixty yards. Right? But if you cut that number by two thirds, like we are for lex passive temps than he's getting eight targets catching five or six of them for forty five yards. And you're just hoping touchdown. Okay. So you're not starting any of the colts wide receiver say I'm starting Eric Brown. Yeah, he's they're number one wide receiver. Yep. He's a top seven tight end for everybody for for Jamie fifth or sixth for Dave, sixth or seventh for heath spending on the format. I don't. I don't necessarily disagree with what you guys were saying earlier that if you're desperate wide receiver, these guys are really low owned and they would be a decent Fillon. I just don't like them as like they're atop thirty thirty five receiver. You've gotta start them. No, no, Dave. You have Rodgers ranked. The highest assume. Yes, you have thirtieth and PR you have him like right on the board or any third, twenty third. Okay. Would you start any colts running back. I don't know if I'm excited to start Marlin MAC, certainly a buy week replacement. I would. If MAC, I will start Hines NPR and if accent, no, I would back away from high just too, but those guys are going to catch passes from Andrew luck as well. That's part of the secrets. Luxembourgers is what he gets from those running backs through the air. All right. Would you start Hines over other jets running back this week, go to the jets. As of now, I would in PR over who both of them really start Hines over both of them. Okay, I would check. I would take Crowell over Hines and non, but they're all in the flex for me in non p p r I would start both jets over Hinds in p p r I would start Hines over both of them. Is there a jet that you're excited about starting this week? No. I'm non PR. I'm pretty good. I'm pretty excited about starting Isaiah Crowell where I'm ranked twenty. Interesting. I guess I'm looking now it's it's nineteen the pre good nice that you are. I currently I'm twenty six. He'll probably end up moving up at least once by win Davante Freeman gets ruled out. Yeah, and crow l. might score it's Darris Leonard could be back for Indianapolis, so it's not as groovy of matchup or situation as it was last week for him. Coelho's twenty-seventh for heath and PR. So he's a sit and PR is starting not PBR at least for heath Quincy. An-and we'll Robbie Anderson interest Anderson I think is a great boomer bust third receiver or flex regardless of format. Indianapolis, a secondary shredded right now, and the only spot where they're going to get a good player back is going to be in the slot ice-locked corner. We'll be back there outside corners, lots of issues. And I think Robbie could take advantage. I tried to hold onto Quincy noon, win a couple of PR leagues. I had to drop them in a couple of because I had him in a bunch. I want to see where he lines up in this game because what happened to him last week. And I don't know if this is because Chris Harris plays in the slot and they were trying to get him away from there or what was going on. But he had been a guy that was running at least half of his of his routes from the slot. And last week it felt a twenty two percent. He's not going to be good if he's running twenty two percent of his routes from the slight. He's not beating people outside. Okay, threat this game up so that we wrapped it up. He went from fourteen outside snaps and week two to thirty six outside snaps and we fought. I think they're just using them out there because Germain curses. Maybe they wanna get him going in the slot a little bit more. All right. Let's go to our next game. Sunday night, football, Kansas City at New England. Stat of the game. Kids city allows ninety one receiving yards per game to running backs, ninety one. That's the most in the NFL last year Tennessee. Allow the most receiving yards posing running backs at sixty yards per game. So they're pathetic. But that a lot of that was week one with Gordon. They're still bad in that regard, but not ninety per game. Anyway, James white is an obvious start. So I think that to save time and to save you from analysis that you don't really need Mahomes and Brady are both top-five Brady is number actually Heathrow Brady fourth Brady's one for Dave, and Jamie and fourth for heath. Everybody has Brady ranked ahead of homes, but it's close. Obviously we're starting to Kareem hunt, Michelle, James wider must starts. Yes, yes. Is James why must start a non PR. Sure. Number two running back. There are some running like I wouldn't call them start because they're twelve running. Backs. I ever entire the name. I'd rather start Yeldan Connor even Chris Carson and Sony Michelle, but you're probably starting James white both formats, which starred James wider Jordan. Howard it non PR white white is here's here's his fancy point totals this season ten eight, ten twenty two thirteen. It not PBR non PR at obviously much much higher PR which tight end do you like better? Does that curiosity Kelsey guilty? I'm a little. I'm not worried about growing, but it's a little mystifying trying to figure out where Brady's targets are going in this game. We look at the chiefs passing game. I know we're starting Mahomes but to say the patriots right now, they allowed the third fewest yards per attempt in the NFL. It must have been very good at home, but we'll see the homes. Mahomes is awesome. Tyreek hill, Sammy Watkins. However, how good or bad or in between do you feel about tyreek hill and Sammy Watkins the patriots have not allowed a seventy yard wide receiver in any of their last three games that'd be at Detroit, Miami and the colts. However, they did allow touchdown to to Detroit wide receivers, but pass defense has been okay lately. So what do you think about hill and walk ins? I grew their past fence is getting better. I still think they have a liability at slot corner, and I don't know if they've got a corner that can match up speed-wise tyreek hill here. Bella check was doing in preparation for this game. No. What was that? He was having in the scrimmages to prepare his defence for this. The opposing teams, the offense was starting with the receivers, three yards downfield. Interesting is they didn't have any re- receivers that could simulate their speed, you know, I, I'm, I'm surprised that even got out. Yeah, that's that's surpri like dibella checks that I, it sounds like something that like I think that it's up. Set. Well, that's very interesting. Are they look? I mean, I can't sit here. I can't sit here and say, is tyreek hill start because he hasn't been that good. The last three games. Tyreek hill. You're probably starting, say me Watkins to you. Don't have to start Sammy, which gave which Chester Rogers over Sammy Watkins. I think I wouldn't PR for sure. All right, say walk. It's not so bad. PR himself had six catches for seventy yards against Jacksonville last week. Kelsey gronk. Yes, Brady, yes. Show. Yes. Why? Yes. So how about the patriots wide receivers? An-and and Gordon Gordon has had four targets last week to targets the week before we did catch a long touchdown last week, and it'll minute seven cashes for fifty seven yards on nine targets and week five and Kansas City. They were really bad against Pittsburgh and the chargers wide receivers in the first two games since then the chiefs of not allow double digit fantasy points to a wide receiver in non PR in three straight games, no more than seventy six yards to a wide receiver in those three games, no wide receiver touchdowns against the chiefs in their last three games. So how do we feel about element and Gordon. I'm still sorting element with confidence. I think the matchup is actually best for him and Gordon is one of those. You're going to take a shot with shot player type guy where like Robbie Anderson, boom bust. Yeah, I, I view at Allman Gordon pretty close in non PBR. They're both just outside of my top thirty. In p p r Eto and moves up to the top twenty four just barely and Gordon actually falls a little. The targets haven't been there for him. I don't know about whether Ataman has the best matchup in this candidate evens in theory, they have like three slot corners and two of them are trying to play outside. So the slot should be the toughest place against the chiefs defense and hasn't always been true this year, though. Eto van or window Smallwood. Small wooden, both Smallwood Ataman or Clement. I'll take element NPR. That's close. That's really close. I'll I'll take element of PR Josh Gordon or sterling Shepard. Shepper Shepard. All right. We got some fans will contests to tell you about. It's back to a five dollar contest, love this contest competing against our listeners about twelve hundred slots available. Get in there right now at fan will dot com. Slash f, f t you've got time fans will dot com. Slash f, f t set align up, enjoy it. You're not gonna be able to play this New England Kansas City game because this is just the Sunday main slate. 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Let's speed it up here. Chicago back should have. They should be the focus of the offense for Chicago. If we're going to trust Matt Nagy to attack the weakness of his opponent, that's where the weaknesses for Miami. It's in the run defense and how they do against running backs in general, which running back do you like better for the bears this week? I've got Howard right hire. It's very close in PR. How much do you guys trust Jordan? Howard. I'm going to start them. Enough, what's trust got to do with it. In one spot higher in in full PBR if Freemen's out which start Tevin Coleman or Howard, I'd start any bears running back over any falcons running back. I would start Howard. I'd start Coleman over to re Cohen in non. I don't know, Dave disagree. I know that he hasn't been running the ball that well, but he still put giving production Coleman. Went Freemen's out. It gets a ton of work. What's what's the production? What's it been ten fantasy points actually, that's been the max, and that was three weeks ago and he has nine fantasy points combined in his last two games. Now, one of the late last week, well, Freeman played and then he got hurt, and then you know Smith night the touchdown. He's playing well, neither is Jordan Howard Jordan Howard's averaging three point two yards per carry or something that's true. But I do like his match better and I think he'll get more work. All right. Would you start Jordan Howard or Juliette? OMON PR Howard. Mike? Oh, Ellman. Okay. To Rico interurban. Cohen. Why is head of both? Why Robinson so low in the rankings. He sexually, the highest isn't twenty six and PR outside the top thirty nine rod, I think I think he's only giving you double digit PR fantasy points once this year. And I think this is a tough match reform. I still I, I was sold on the dolphins past early on this season. I wasn't quite there in the preseason, and I know they're missing one of their top corners on the outside, but they still have exhibited Howard who is a little hot and cold, but it slot they've got make Fitzpatrick. So if they go in the slot and then I think Robinson's gonna have a tough time with him. I think Robinson's just not going to get the type of him that you want. He's got one game this season with more than four catches and he's facing xavien Howard. And everyone else in this offense has a good up in the passing game. I don't think they force it to them not some, whoever's in the slot do not overlook make Fitzpatrick. He's been very good. He's allowed fewer numbers than Howard Howard's allowed touchdowns. That's going to our friends at sports. Oh solutions. What about trae burden? I'm not sure trait burden is a good up because Delaney Walker had fifty two yards on seven targets. Then left with an injury, Jared cook at five catches for thirty one yards against the dolphins and rob gronkowski had four catches for forty four yards. I gotta give dolphins credit. They've done well against good tight ends there. One of the few teams it's face multiple good, tight ends. I'd say. Yeah, burden is not by any stretch of the immagination of us start. I don't know how he could be with the limited targets that he's gotten. He is for me kind of the last guy in that. Okay. Am I going to start Niles poll. Yeah, you know, I don't wanna start Niles Paul, but he did get nine targets last week. He's not a bad streamer, but I'm not going to start him over crepe burden, but I'd start camera braid over them. I'd start Jared, cook, Eric, Braun Jordan. Read all those guys over. Okay. The quarterbacks were sitting right. Trubisky. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Any dolphins starting any dolphins in this game? Drake's Affleck's and so it's gonna stills. He Drake looked so good last week. You'd love to see him get more work. I think the coaches are starting to be open to the idea of using him as a pass catching running back and he he had a lot of garbage time numbers last week. A lot of catches came in garbage time. He had a twenty five yard run to end the game who's kinda thank to watch the two and a half points doing it. And at the same time, he also had a play where he pancake defender caught a ball juke to defenders, broke a tackle, and that wasn't even the the play that he caught a touchdown on. So he's got talent. It's just a matter of the dolphins, leaning on them, entrusting them which clearly they have issues with America's got talent. Dave, they say. America. Kenyan Drake or Kenny stills, who's a better flex? I'll take Drake. Yeah, I think I will to all right. Kenyan Drake or Taylor? Gabriel who's a better flex. Gabriel's interesting because the volume that he gets, I believe he actually leads the bears in receptions, I'll take Draken non Gabriel beer who's a better flyer. This week Taylor Gabriel or one of those colts wide receivers. I'll take Rogers over Gabriel. I'll take abriel over all of the colts. Gabriel gets a lot of his targets in short yardage, and the bears try and have them make a play after the catch twenty nine targets that second on the barest Robinson twenty two catches. That's I on the bears. Robinson one hundred ninety three yards. That's just behind Robinson two touchdowns. That leads bears wide receivers. Okay, let's go to our next game. It is Cincinnati hosting Pittsburgh said of the game AJ green in his last three home games against Pittsburgh, twenty two hundred twenty four yards and a touchdown hundred thirty two yards and a touchdown, seventy seven yards and two touchdowns. He missed the two thousand sixteen gay, but boy has been a monster in this matchup at home against Pittsburgh. So maybe DFS play for you there, which quarterback d like better. Dlt. Rothlisberger they're both start both worthy of being started, and we can start them to Jared Goff I assume. Yes, correct. All right. And both the quarterback tonight, James might take off over dole. All right, James Connors, top nine in both formats. Bengals allow four point seven yards per carry star, both Pittsburgh wide receivers, kind of interesting, Dave, Jamie event, twenty Brown number one. Overall, he has about tenth. Any reason for that? He's he like he had a very good game with a couple touchdowns last week, but on a per target and per catch basis. He and been not been on the same page still this year. There are two receivers in the NFL with at least forty targets that have caught less than sixty percent of them an average less than eleven yards per reception. One of them's Antonio Brown, the other ones, Mike Crabtree well, I loved the how they connected in the second half last week because in the first half year I eat they were. They were way off and Cincinnati's done a good job against Tony Brown vest. His, yes. Oh, he has one touchdown in his career at Cincinnati, and it came last year, but that's pretty crazy. One touchdown at Cincinnati in his career starters, advanced McDonald. Trying to get away from him. Yeah, there's plenty of other low own Haydn's. I'd rather start victims Burton. Burton Burton and the other tied in this game, Donald, Jessie, j o CJ whose hits Berg. Oh, wow, really? Okay. Pittsburgh is terrible against everything, but running back second, most fantasy points to quarterbacks third-most wide receivers. Second most tight ends. They're gonna be. A lot of starts here for the Bengals dolphins start. Joe mixing. Does it worry at all that his matchup is tough that Steelers do have good run defense, three point, four yards per carry. I'll tell you what for a guy that's coming off of arthroscopic knee surgery. He looked really good again in the second half against the dolphins, making an impact, catching the football. I think that helps us profile. I'm going to enjoy using Joe mix and while Giovani Bernard is on the shelf. Okay. Let's start guy right. Vixen or Sony, Michelle. I believe I've mixing tire. I definitely have mixed hire PR and I haven't Meyer on. All right. AJ grades, top eight. Are we getting back to Tyler Boyd this week, ninety four percent own right back to him. He's a top twenty four wide receiver for me. I don't know how he has them. I don't love his specific matchup against Mike Hilton. That's the slot corner for Pittsburgh, but I liked the volume and certainly you can get away from Hilton depending on how the Steelers scheme up Tyler Boyd or Sammy Watkins void, boy, Tyler Boyd or Jordan. Howard. Definitely Boyd and PR in non PR. I'll go Howard okeydokey and that's it. Buffalo is at Houston. Stat of the game in their last three weeks. Buffalo has held Kirk cousins, Aaron Rogers and Marcus mariota to sixteen or fewer fantasy points. Six point passing touchdown, leaks cousins had eleven Rogers at sixteen. Mario had four. Does that mean anything to you as you ranked Shawn? Watson. No, not particularly. I don't. I'd rather start Jameson Watson, but other than that, I'm starting Watson star, Dalton or Watson wasn't one spot higher than Dalton for me. I watch and several spots, Dalton for me, and that's in six point, professor touch four point for passage. It's very easy. I assume, right? Yes. Watson has four straight games to twenty three or more fantasy points. Six point leagues, four straight games with three hundred ten or more passing yards. Three straight games, three hundred and seventy five or more passing guards and thirty six rushing yards in all five games. Okay, that's great. Houston running backs. Are you starting either? Well, how about this rank rank the three running backs in this game in buffalo, Houston. Tough question. It's they're all outside of my top twenty four. It's McCoy. Then blue. I guess Miller says he's gonna play. The I'm going McCoy blue Miller. That's I, I'm gonna go McCoy and then I'm not going to make a choice to me. There's only one guy to rank in. That's so do you just think that the mar- Miller, if he plays is not going to get his full workload? No, I do not think he will splits Ville. Which which, sorry, which Texas running back to you, rank higher. Blue, I guess as of now blue is right tire. Okay. I'm not gonna feel good about starting either. One start tither Boyd over the Shawn McCoy. Whit how many, how many wide receivers for the Texans would you start over McCoy other than, okay, obviously, Hopkins anyone else. Fuller and PR QT for sure. Yeah, I might do in a non people is the only one I would start over McCoy I'm I'm a little worried about willfuller and he's awesome and has huge upside, and I'm not saying you should bench him. He's not my top twenty four wide receiver. So I kind of 'em saying you should bench him, but the it, there's no time for Shawn, Watson at all, and Bullard doesn't run generally the types of routes, especially with Cutie there that a quarterback looks for when there's no time. But when there is time right and Fuller's deep, but I don't. I don't like this. Buffalo diva is not bad. I think he's a little bit more than just a deep ball threat now, but I agree to your point. He's like, I and every single week I'm going to have to choose to three between tither boy, Juliette OMON and will fuller and PR, and it's just sort of in, excuse right now to sit fuller. It makes my decision easier. He's been under fifty yards each of his last two games with eight total targets. He's. Playing hurt, cuties taking on more work. So it's an easy call for me to get away from fuller, even though I think he could have a good game. But if you have good options it just to me, it's an easy call. Cutie is sixty four percent own. It's probably too low starter set. Album veteran PR. I think he's a sneaky flex. Maybe even may even close to the board of number two receiver NPR. Yeah, he's not my top thirty five, but I do think he has upside and I do like more NPR at buffalo in their last three games they faced, I guess, four games Keenan Allen Stefan digs Davante Adams, Corey Davis. None of them have scored. None of them have more than eight fantasy points in non PR. They've done a good job. Buffalo's defense has gotten better to be an interesting game. I think chargers at Cleveland and other interested game stat of the game. Philip rivers has three carries inside the five yard line that is as many as awesome Eker and Melvin Gordon combined. That's very strange. Melvin. Gordon has one carry inside the five yard line. There could be even more production coming for for Melvin. Gordon could be less production coming for Philip rivers who has seven point, five percent touchdown rate, which is by far career highest career rate is five point, three percent. I am so proud right now. Right? I knew you would. I am so proud of. It was one of my favorite moments in the us. Yeah, I'm scared of rivers this week. I've, I mean, he's number eleven for Mazel. He's ranked as a starter, but this Cleveland defense has been one of the best in the NFL at turning quarterbacks over. And we've seen plenty of west coast teams playing in these games at start at ten AM their time. They generally get off to slow starts. This is a low scoring, ugly type game, or I don't know if that Brown's defenses. They've turned the ball over a lot, but they're getting a little thin in the secondary. I could see rivers getting off to slow start. I could see him finishing fast though. I, Dave as river six, Jamie, and heath have rivers. Eleventh. So you have to check the rankings for comparing him to Dalton or Winston teeth definitely has those two ahead of rivers. Dave is do you have Winston or rivers? I have rivers that of Winston. All righty. Allston Eker the new Alvin Kamara. He's averaging six yards per carry and fourteen point eight yards per catch. Ch- he has three receiving touchdowns on fourteen catches this year starters. Awesome. Eker he has more fantasy points per game than touches per game ho. Wow, that's funny. That is I, I'm fine using them as a number two running back reflects. I think he can keep this up. I think these, I think he has seventeen plays of ten plus yards already the season just really, they're. They're being real judicious about how often they use him. But when they do use them, he's affective. I, I will say that I do not think that he can keep this up short. I don't. I don't want to start off sneck lawyer in this game. He is a low wind flex for me. I understand if you can't get away from him, but he's getting seven carries in three targets per game like their increased passing to the running back has mostly been increased passing. Melvin Gordon. He caught one pass, right? Yeah, that's just one grab. How about how about how Sean Jeffrey. Rawson eker. Start jeffrey. I believe I've Ecuador ranked ahead of Jeffrey. All right. Are we starting any any charges wide receivers, other than Keenan? Allen? I'm not. Okay. Are we starting a tight end in this game. The joke who in PR I am not. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the joke has gotten a lot of work with babies best games, seven targets against Oakland. Ten targets gets Baltimore and eleven catches for one hundred ten yards or one hundred twenty one yards in those two gifts combined those touchdowns. Yeah, I don't. I don't love his matchup this week. Derwin James one on one with him probably for most of the game. That'll be. That'll be tough. He won't get open very often. Yeah. Oh, actually, good point because here's what good tight ends of done against the chargers. Travis Kelsey had one catch for six yards, Jared cook at forecast for twenty yards for catches for twenty yards. George kit had six one hundred twenty five and a touchdown. He did have a somewhat fluky eighty two yard touchdown catch. So we'll see maybe the chargers going gonna be a team that's very good against titans. What do we think about the Browns in this game? Are we starting Baker Mayfield Carlo sided cetera. I think is one of those running backs that you just kind of have to go with based on his volume. Number two running back for me, and I think this could be a Jarvis week. I think this could be a pretty good game for Jarvis. I think he can get some good numbers. I like him as a number two receiver even in non PR. Yeah, he's a number two receiver. Hide is everything they've said, you'd have to start him. I don't. I know there's some excitement about Baker Mayfield. I'm not feeling this week. I think it may come after this week right scheduled. It's really good for them. Jarvis Landry by the way is on pace for ninety three catches and we talked about Taylor Gabriel. We talked about the colts wide receivers. What about Antonio Calloway with Higgins out? Do you think Calloway is a good. Hail, Mary type play this week. He's only a hail Mary type that they are getting less and less enchanted with him. Derek Willie's had a same number of targets as Tonio Calloway last week when Higgins went down and I have no idea who willies is. I'm just now learning about him. Here's here's the cliff notes. He's six foot four. So nice big outside receiver with a horrible pedigree coming out of college. Los Angeles Rams are at Denver aunts that of the game. Demaria's. Thomas has gone three straight games with five to seven targets after having Twenty-one targets combined in his first two games, they have really seemed to transition away from Thomas to Emmanuel Sanders. Even though Thomas did have a hundred yards touchdown last week. Do you rank Sanders Marius. Yes, but they're much closer this week than they were before? Yes, I do. Do you start any? Do start them? Yeah, I'm starting Sanders. I am not. Starting to Marius Woody worried about Damaris. He's had five targets. Five, seven targets thrive. Three straight games enough. The touchdown last week was definitely flew cash and Coralline Sutton actually started to get in on the act before did last week. I think Portland Sutton is the best receiver on the Broncos he will. He's not in fantasy 'cause he's not getting the targets, but he's going to be good. I think you will be good. Yeah, that's a, that's a beat the waiver wire kind of like, I guess you that pretty deep rousers, but I could see a scenario where he has a good second half and then according to Sanders or Josh Gordon. Oh, Sanders. Pretty's. Yes. To Maria's Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon, various not may. I'll take the Maria's fill-ins your Royce free. Linsey Lindsay, Philip Lindsey or Carlo side. I think I've hydra tire almost positive. Yeah, definitely hide. All right. What about Freeman? How about Freeman or Emmanuel Sanders Freemen's not start for me. Nope. Like making talk about giving him more touches all they want until they do. I'm not, sorry. Okay. And you believe in NFL coach lied to the to the public. Really weird. The Rams by the way are allowing four point nine yards per carry two running backs, but they have been great against running backs in the passing game as we take a look at the Rams. So we just wait and say, well, I mean, we know the weather's going to be going to be really cold in this game. So give me your overall take on everybody, but girly the passing game. I love rubber woods. If he's the only receiver among their starters, who's healthy for the game, we aren't wrangling this way. My guess is that all of the Rams wide receiver playing are starting for you. I can't imagine I'm actually going to bench any of them. Exactly. Okay, Rams deal. I understand what you're saying about the weather and Goff and I just can't imagine benching any them. Okay, Rams the top ten, two bad weeks in a row, but Denver's allowed eleven Saxon the last three games and Baltimore's at Tennessee. Our final game here, stat of the game, the titans have not allowed to touch down to a running back this year and they've allowed just one carry of twenty plus yards. I don't think they're that good against running back though. They are giving up like four point four yards per carry, two running backs yet what it is, but no touchdowns passing a receiving or rushing anyway. General question about Baltimore, Tennessee. Is there one good start in this game? I like giambra. Yeah. Love is volume last week. He just couldn't come through. Flaco didn't have a great game. I think flacco has chance to rebound a little bit and I think John Brown could be that guy that helps them, yeah. Okay. There's not one start that I feel good about in this game, but I think you're probably starting John Brown and there's a decent chance that you don't have a better option than Alex Collins running back and Corey Davis. I mean, Jarvis Landry aged green, twenty Brown juju Smith Schuster all fail to reach seventy yards against Baltimore. That said green at three touchdowns Brown had one tie there had a big game, but a lot of that was without Jimmy Smith. So it's it's a tough. It's a low scoring game. I don't think there's a lot of difference between Corey Davis, John Brown. Well, Brown's been better. But I, I like Corey Davis. You mean this week overall this week. Okay. Tennessee has had has allowed one hundred yard games to Kenny stills. The Andre Hopkins will fuller in Sean Jeffrey. So it would appear that there are better matchup. For what it's worth. Hey, guys, thanks. I gotta take this frigging onesie off. It went from being the best gift you ever got to a frigging one. Dave, but I've hot and uncomfortable and there's just a lot of forget it. Forget it. We're out of here. No, those back sweat. Oh, we're back sweat area. I don't do back sweat. I don't sweat from my back. I don't do it. You're such a why? It's really hard to sweat when you don't do anything like he's going to roll his chair over into the living room now to watch some prices right, and then roll it over to the oven to pick up the whatever's cooking for lunch. Dispute that. All right, we are out of here. I got nothing to cook for lunch will actually going out for lunch today and bringing something back in just so you all know fantasy baseball podcast later today, she get excited for that for Dave Richard for heath Cummings on atom as her Thursday, go giants. No.

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Winston Cup series comes to life in the Arizona desert but two thousand season is winding down with just three races to go and there are championship. Applications Asians today's race. Bobby Labonte can't clinch the title. Today when he can begin closing the deal but he also knows it could go the other way his job. Don't worry about out the championship just race. We know that we we have to go out there and just Race like having because if we change our thought process and you know that's when something's going to happen so You know if we don't change our process something happens at least we'll know that we gave it our best shot but We just bought there and just do Do what we have been and not worry about it now. You think about it but you don't don't worry about it the championship and a chance to win a tough and demanding racetrack those the issues today as Mr in Radio Prince you live coverage of the checker auto parts five hundred from Phoenix Arizona or and Radio Presents Nasr car today sponsored by Outback Steakhouse Nascar's blooming favourite and by Wicks filters the only filters officially officially licensed by NASCAR. Wicks were NASCAR and your car. The two thousand Nascar Winston Cup season coming to a close. The countdown to the championship for this year is heating up. I everybody I'm Joe. Along with Barney Hall here in Phoenix Arizona. Bring you live coverage of the thirty-second of thirty-four four racist. This year. The checker auto parts five hundred yet. Bobby Labonte does have a commanding lead in the points coming into this race. Two hundred one points of margin over Dale Earnhardt but but everyone is anxiously waiting to see what will happen is the curtain begins to fall on this season and Barney. Bobby can't clinch the title today. But he really could do some serious damage to Dale Earnhardt. Chances Dances if he finishes up in the top five and heart finishes even within four or five positions of him there. It's not going to make that much differs. They will doesn't want to lose any point certainly here this weekend and as you say. He can't clinch it but if he goes out of here with just a little over three hundred point lead all he has to do is start the next two races which would be down at homestead Florida and at Atlanta so earnhardt today knows that it could maybe swing in his favor. Keep his hopes alive as slim as they might be. So that's certainly going to be on his mind and you can bet he's going to be running the wheels off that car to finish finishes far up front as he can and Bobby course knows. He's got to do what he does. Every time he climbs into a race car and that is think about doing the same not worrying about championship. Yep Applications but Paul qualifying on Friday Rusty Wallace won his ninth pole of the season but qualifying was pretty interesting because of some of the other names near the front of the field. Like Robert Pressley. Ken schrader Kenny Wallace. Alice and twenty two year. Old Ryan Newman. Yeah we got a lot of names up in the top ten and a good place to start here in the top ten at Phoenix track position. Very important at this racetrack has it is anywhere. We go got to be interesting to see how well Ryan Newman runs. Stays up in the top. Ten Doesn't have that much experience in the cup cars. Certainly and but he feels like from talking ocoee to him. A little bit Yesterday down there. I want to learn but I want to run in the top ten all day. If I can't bottom line is we said yesterday when you come to Phoenix. Usually some pretty good racing beautiful day. Hey for racing here the Arizona desert in a moment. We'll take you downstairs in here from some of the drivers getting set to go in. Today's event back at Phoenix International. Raceway this afternoon in big pre race festivities going on downstairs drivers being loaded up in Chevrolet trucks taken around to wave to the fans. See if we can catch a few before they go but pole winner or for today's race should not be a big surprise. Rusty Wallace is qualified of the top. Ten here at Phoenix. Every time. He's run here. That's twelve straight times. And he's a winningest pole winner this this year now with nine to his credit but now what about the race. Jim Phillips if deported. NFC is with Rusty Wallace. It was one fantastic lap of one hundred thirty thirty four point one seven eight miles per hour that put him on the bud pole. This track is black one of your tracks except one difference. It's not been one that you finish that. Warn here before but not like you should have there been things that have happened to you. So how about. Today's yeah. I really feel good about today's race. I told the guys last night. So you know for some reason when we come out here here to Phoenix. We've lost batteries. We've lost all Nader's guys put fresh batteries on their car and every time always run great and we won a couple years ago here got it three or four poles but I really feel good about today's race cars and handling good last night if we need to give it twenty and thirty laps on our belts and find out how it's GonNa perform right now man. I'm real optimistic. Yesterday's race when that long green flag come out stayed out about one hundred laps. That's what separated the field. Do you expect that today. Yeah I really do I think. Now everybody's got their heads zone so good Winston Cup racing nowadays running caution free for a long time in yesterday. My car wasn't the fast is the first five or six laps but after that it really got flying. So I'm thinking we're GonNa be better than long runs but you know it's real overcast. Yesterday today it's not as overcast a little warmer. But it's still cool idea. What is it about seventy degrees out here in Phoenix right now? But I'm pumped up for the the rights. I think we're just GONNA shout as anybody out there with two real good finishes. He could move up a couple of sessions in the point standings at rusty wallace rusty around. Good here today. No Doubt Jeff. Burton will start second in the race this afternoon. His best finish six races here at Phoenix has been a fourth. He did that twice. He's had a great season in the West Cups series. Third in points three wins and twenty. You want top ten finishes. He's hot off a win here yesterday. And his Bush car at Phoenix. Can he get to make to today. Let's find out Winston Kelly's with him where you can always tell when Barney Hall and by the Number Ninety nine trailer Jeff Burton's qualified. Well so jeff you had a good qualifying run in the car that led wire-to-wire from New Hampshire is capable of doing that again today. Well actually. This isn't the car that we read it New Hampshire but this is a good car this car. That a lot of labs Martinsville Let a lot of laughs Richmond and we feel like it's a good car we they were good practice yesterday. Not In the morning practice. We made a lot of changes from the morning afternoon and afternoon. Got Pretty Good. We're wanting to go to some of the guys but we were real close and we made a few more justice. Today it's sunny today. It's been cloudy and it looks like it's GonNa rain the whole weekend but today it's sunny. I think that's GonNa make a big difference. Grip was a real problem for some drivers yesterday. You seem to have a handle on it better anybody else. How about in this car? I hope we have a handle on it better than everybody else again. We were in pretty good shape yesterday but I think detract will be slicker today today because the sun is out and I think would work. Yesterday may not work today so I'm kind of got excited to get going here and see what we've got so I think we're going to have to adjust their car really quick because I think the track will be a lot different one of the drivers that some of the other teams are pointing to is a contender to win. Today is Jeff Burton. Who Rozov second as I mentioned a few moments ago? It's a couple of names near the front of the field from butthole qualifying Friday. We don't usually see up there like Robert Pressley. He surprised everybody with a third place running but bow qualifying on Friday. It's Roberts best starting spot since nineteen nineteen ninety-five when he started second at Martinsville in that same year ahead of second-place start at New Hampshire. Question is now. Can't keep it near the Front Marty Schneider of Charlotte. North Carolina is with today's third-place daughter. Joe The weekend was going great for Robert Until yesterday third fastest however Friday qualifying but yesterday in happy hour third from the bottom autumn. What happened in happy hour? And how many changes this morning to make the car better Ronnie change better thing on the car. We were just real bad yesterday and happy hour but After it's all over we found out had some right front suspension damage on the car. Just Hatton Really caught you know trying to be conservative on the setup up and changed it so I think we got this Jasper engine forgery today yesterday in the Nascar Busch series race. The field gut strung out so quickly. How important will track position be today? And how key is it to start up front. It's going to be key Frat but you know this is one of them. Good racetracks were tracked position. Don't really mean as much as I like your Charlotte's Bristol's in and places like that so good handling racecar. I think was twenty car coming up through there pretty quick today. Well they hadn't finished in the top ten since June at Michigan Robert Pressley today. We'll we'll start third. Robert told me this morning channel bit about what happened yesterday and happy hour practices as well. At least we know what not to do to make the car go in the right direction. Well our last race on the circuit into the two thousand season wasn't the North Carolina speedway. Just a couple of weeks ago the pop secret microwave popcorn. Four hundred Jeremy Mayfield was on the bud pole for that race now. Parts plus the best last auto parts you can buy on and off the track bring you up to speed as we take a look back at that event course race had some big championship implications near the end when series point leader. Bobby Labonte came in early for his final stop of the day. There is caution out in the pop secret. Four hundred bobby. The bodies pit strategy is going to be foiled by a huge fire on pit road. Winston Kelly Kelly there was a fire was in seventeen talking about the Matt. Kenseth fit the come down pit road. We didn't see exactly what triggered it but it was a huge fire here on pit road. Bobby wound up twenty fifth a lap down after the caution flag and Rusty Wallace came out as the race leader at least until lap. Three fifty when the caution flew again. Caution washing on the speedway trouble and turn one for Michael Waltrip. Here's the race back to the yellow flag. Burton looks low on Rusty Wallace. Not GonNa work rusty leads to the yellow. Let's go to Joe More and turn one Michael Waltrip coming into the corner. Boy had some problems today and they continue. This could be it though. Big Plume of smoke. The nation's rent Chevrolet and Michael Walter dropped to the sort of the racetrack offer to then came the final stops of the day and it was the best of the day for Dale Jarrett Robert Gates team and other Great Stop Dale Jarrett's team fourteen point nine on the stop half of wedge into the left rear that should tighten them up just a little bit still a little bit loose del Jarrett and Dale Jarrett is going to lead off of pit road and I believe this is the first time he led the race all day long and Dj held on for the final forty three laps in that event to score the win only his second of the year and his first ever at Rockingham Hampden J. Although makes his way off turn to for the final time this afternoon. Dale Jarrett about three quarters of a mile away from his second victory of the year. Two Thousand Dives into tournament Career Korea brings it up towards the top of the banking. He's all once again off more looking for the checker. Dale Jarrett won the race. 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Wider is better engines have fired and fearlessness completing the first of three pace laps before we get today's race underway the Checker auto parts. Five hundred Elo again. Show more along with Barney Hall. Mr In radio here to bring you live coverage of the thirty second second of thirty four races in the two thousand season at Barney's said before perfect data go racing in the Arizona Desert and to the delight of the hundred thousand plus racing fans. The cars ars around the speedway then like a couple of more laps before they put them under green this afternoon. The Sun is shining brightly and the fan started coming in here before daylight this morning. I think they're going to be treated to a really good show. As as we said. This is a track that demands. You don't overdrive it if you can get yourself in trouble. A lot of guys get carried away. The car feels a little bit good kind of anxious to see what happens. The first fifteen or twenty laps. Very widen the corner. So you have your choice lanes. Matter of fact. Let's hear from the voices that will cover the action out of the corners here this afternoon. This is a one mile layout a dogleg on the back straight away but it gets pretty interesting then it turns one and two cover the action. Force there from Rancho Cucamonga. California is Dan Hubbard. Thank you Joe and good afternoon. Everybody I'm high atop scaffold. Just outside turns one into turns that absolutely demand excellent handling racecar. Many of these cars tend to push up the eleven degree banking all afternoon making it difficult for these drivers to jump back on the throttle and build momentum for the backstretch there are two racing grooves into turn one but the track narrows up at the exit of turn to which means decisions have to be made in a hurry. I'll be here to cover. All the moves moves and the miscues at turns one into a Phoenix International Raceway and depending on which driver you talk to whether you're going down into one two or three and four as to which end of this racetrack is the most difficult built corner to negotiate but to cover the action over three and four for Mr in this afternoon from Grand Rapids Michigan. Let's hear from Jeff Struggle. All right thank you very much Barney. And you know the thing that throws another wrench into that whole mix is this sunshine. As you guys have already documented. It was cloud covered during practice and qualifying and that meant the cars were tight as they entered into turn number three just nine degrees banking on this end of the race track. It's wide it's faster to grooves. But as Jeff Gordon mentioned in the pre race you gotTa Guess Right. Those that do will go to the front those that don't won't l.. Cover all the action from the Goodyear Bridge at Phoenix in three and four. Feel now working off that dog back on the back straightaway down towards turns three and four coming around for the start this next time. I'm by early lapse here this afternoon. We'll probably see a little bit of patience by the drivers hoping to get into the race of it before they really start trying to make some moves. Sometimes that plays out sometimes was it does not but we're about to find out. They work their way off. Turn four and get ready for the start here at Phoenix Pace car about to ease in behind the pit wall. forty-three cars ready to get down to business. This is here this afternoon at the Phoenix International raceway about eight hundred feet from the start finish line. Green Flag Zilly air and we are underway all the break race in the tournament launch. Yeah Burton on the outside Rusty. You want us to the end side. Dead Heat in the corner stays pretty even through turns one or two rusty download. Jeff Burton by Robert Pressley writing from the first Bach- It side by side for fourth. They had yeah through the dog. Still side by side at the field rusty wallace download. Jeff Burton up top Robert Pressley all alone in third spot there side by side for fourth and Fifth Johnny Benson and St Veep Park as they apply for complete lap number one rusty wallace finally squeezes by just by interest to lead the first lap. But Jeff Burton's still works the outside lane and Robert Presley waits to see which lanes will open up. Burton is working. Well he's hanging onto the outside walls. Walls has yet to clear. The battle is still on for the lead downturn through Jeff Burton gets gets a good run up off of turn number two he comes back and go side by side with rusty back into turn number three. Give the advantage to Burton at least for a moment. Here comes back on the inside. The one of these. He's drivers giving an inch in the early going. Not even waiting to find out how slick this racetrack will be. Although it has been bathed in sunshine all morning long they are still a dead heat to turn to carbon copy in the first few laughs is rusty down low burton. Oh Hi Robert Wrestling with the best. How Steve Park now sales down the fourth spot feel mixed their way off of turn two Presley GonNA stick right in behind rusty wallace rusty inches out? The advantage back to three but Burton is still there on the outside Presley looking underneath Burton Rusty Burton and parsley great ongoing battle for the elitist. Come back down to complete lap number three this time. It's Rusty Wallace ticket control. What's again he leads but again it's just by inches over Jeff? Burton slight contact made eight as they entered into turn Rusty Wallace. I believe finally got the job done is racist Dogleg so now Burton tuck into line in the second supply rusty now out front all Miam- Self Jeff Burton falls in line running. Second Robert Pressley Steve Park Johnny. Benson your top five reasons Jeff. Burton was running the leader Rusty Wallace. So hard was he is caught in that outside line line. Everybody else was tucked in behind rusty. which meant if he didn't stay up there couldn't find a place to Tuck in? Maybe ten or fifteen cars was going to get around him. He's still back in second place off turn to second replace a bit of a gap back to the place of Robert Pressley keeping Steve Park at bay. And that's where things are heating up for that third position. Steve Park running fourth fourth position. Closing down on Robert Pressley. Johnny Benson holds onto fifth abroad. Here is Jeff Burton putting on the press once again trying to get by Rusty Wallace. SNUKA look Danley inside. Now we'll fall back in line single file a head to turn one Jeff. Burton likes attorney late into turn. One goes higher line. That is rusty. Wallace is not able to eat. Got An advantage over that car however conceal Presley and third top ten cars single file through the backstretch Burton using that highline off of the Dogleg is well and also entry into turn number. Three but wallace is going to drift high. This time that'll antelope things up for. Jeff Burton Jeff Burton thought he had run. A Rusty Wallace got offender down there. But then coming off the corner and rusty pulls away and leaves Burton ride. Second Presley's still third. Steve Park is fourth forth back in Fifth Johnny Benson there in one place. Is Kenny schrader. Seventh this Kenny Wallace eight Mark Martin ninth would be Bobby Labonte and champions Ricky Craven make your way to turn and in behind them. Comes Jimmy Spencer back up at the front of the field rusty Wallace with about a two car linked advantage over. Jeff Burton about another five back to Robert Pressley. He's got a mere full escape. Har- mark good battle going on side by side for the sixteenth position that is reward. Burton has found a line. Underneath Ricky Rudd Ward completes passes they come up off turn number four so ward advances one spot also some good raising further back of the pack. Dale earnhardt making a move. He's under Scott Pruitt now racing for about twenty four th into turn one and the nose on the good wrench Chevrolet wiggles around a lot. Dale Earnhardt Scott arms full as he makes his move past Scott Pruitt just barely clearing them before the dogleg further. Bobby Labonte the inside. Kenny Wallace Ricky. Craven Gravina Jimmy Spencer. All these cars running side by side also looking back in the field. See where Tony Stewart is if he's making any progress Tony's Kinda boxed in back there to bake back traffic for the moment he's just going to have to use a little patience before he makes any moves to come to the front front. Two cars hit off number two and head over to three and it is still just Westie. Wallace Jeff Burton running all by themselves. Steve Park to the inside of Robert Pressley. He'll take over that third position Johnny Bench running fifth. Then it's Kenny schrader further back. You've got Mark Martin next in line then side-by-side aside Bobby Labonte trying to make his move. He sneaks data the inside of the race track. Clear Kenny Wallace. That'll move him up to the ninth position. Leaders had returned one Nevada. Just in front of Kenny Wallace Jimmy Spencer and Ricky Craven Dave Blaney also in that mix mike pack racing off the plane took a look to the inside of Ricky Craven for just a moment then falls back back in line and a Dogleg Duggal single file now another car working by Matt. Kenseth Dale Earnhardt. Jr. He's on the Chart Earnhardt Jr.. Try to work his way up through the field and again Jeff Burton is. They came all four stuck offender down underneath Rusty Wallace. But that's about all he can do. He cannot get a run on him to get up there. They're back into thinking about it Barney though he's trying to figure out how to get around the Miller lite for now Burton's got a great run of an turn right onto the dogleg here. They come Burton takes a look at the inside. Rusty Wallace will slam the door on that advancement. But again he'll wash up the racetrack track. Here comes Jeff Burton to the inside. rustiness pushed it a little too hard going into the corner. It opened the inside lane. Jeff Burton's going to reclaim believe coming down. The line rusty gathers it back. It doesn't lose that much growled. Wrap the proper. Now's a head back to turn one wallace. Just half a Carl off the rear bumper of Jeff Burn aways back in the third spot of Steve Part. Good Battle Going John Entrepreneur. Three Robert Pressley John Van Johnny Benson running right behind Robert Pressley as they get to. The dogleg took a look underneath a Robert. Pressley couldn't get it done falls back in line now. L. Presley will wash up the race. Track and here comes Benson Benson season opening just for a second not going to be able to take advantage of it as Robert Gathers car back in off turnover. Four and we'll hold him off. They go across crossed. The line is Jeff Burton leading Rusty Wallace Second. St Parks third. Robert Pressley is fourth. Give Johnny Vincent v Six Place Right now. That is Ken schrader. Mark Martin still running in seventh. Look Bob the body is eight Kenny. Wallace's ninth and making up the top. Ten is Jimmy. Spencer's the field. Goes over to turn three and is Jeff. Berg by about three CARLEX over Rusty Wallace. Three more back to St Parks. Saint Robert Pressley lose a couple of positions here in the opening laps. Also Matt Kenseth. He's lost three maybe. As many as four positions Kansas started at twelve now shown back back in the sixteenth spot up fraught though it is still Jeff Burton leading the way. He Rusty Wallace Steve Park. That's the front three race now is going to be for the fourth position as they leave her to head down the pack. Shoot Johnny Bench's gun is nose up underneath Robert Pressley and dogleg give the spot to Johnny Benson. He'll come to fourth and Kenny. Schrader is going to try to gouge his way underneath Robert Pressley. They won't be able to do it as they work their way. Out of the corner and back into the front straightaway. Fifteen laps coming up fourteen now completed and for Jeff Burton. He worked on rusty wallace made rusty. Just make a little bit of slip over there and turns three and four moment ago to grab the lead now. He's opened up a lot of daylight on second-place Rusty Wallace in three got to wonder whether or not Rusty Wallace just a little bit tight here intern number three because he has been washing up the race track not the case over Jeff Burton Heath pinned to the bottom of the track. Come the leaders now Paul turnover four. 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Every day mm-hmm Bart's Jeff Burton maintains the lead about seven. Maybe maybe eight car links. But it's early in the day yesterday. The Nascar Busch series event. He did about the same pink took off early. Walked away won that event and obviously he's planning all that again today. It's Burton showing the way Rusty Wallace. Second Steve Park is third Johnny Benson fourth and fifth Spivey the body. Ken schrader went six now. Seventh is Robert Pressley. Mark Martin. His Eighth Jimmy Jimmy Spencer night. The tenth is Kenny Wallace after twenty laps. And just a moment ago a little contact going down the back straightaway between Ryan Newman and a couple of other cars over there volley early dollar back with the car that he got into saw smoke coming up from there for just a split second but they've both got the car straightened out and we'll be able to continue on Jeff. Burton continues to lead waist. Looks Pretty much like he did yesterday. When he dominated the Bush race here for the great part of the afternoon said just a moment ago he seems to have this racetrack figured out? He's pulled away from rusty now alibi about fifteen or twenty car. Lake St park closing in on rusty could have scramble there for second place in. Just a moment bobby. Labonte car as we watch it. Go through both ends of this race track. And he works his way back down into. Turn one Dan Hubbard. It's very obvious he's got a race car capable of getting up there but it doesn't seem to be in that big hurt you do it right now. Absolutely bardy morning Bobby Labonte. It's been picking them off by one car left. He's able to put that on the down low. And that's the key to a quick lap. You're at Phoenix riding alone line. Now he goes to turns three and four. And that's where where he went. By Johnny Benson on the Tri Oval. Bobby Labonte Movement. He started back in the ninth position by the body did as moved up to the fourth spot already. His body the body moves forward. Several others going back. The other direction like Matt Kenseth started in the Twelfth Position Expected Seventeenth Western Kelly. What did they say their rally told us before? The Isis car wasn't very good yesterday. Now loose off the corner meeting rare the coughed not getting the grip that he'd likes kinser falling back from his starting position in the car that ran good last year. But it's only race this year earlier Richmond and ran thirty seconds of not a car. That's been very kind to Matt. Thank you mentioned bobby. Labonte he has said not one word the crew. He's just been listening to lap. Time from crew chief Jimmy my car. And he's making his way up to the front lobby. CADILLACS actions speak louder than words in his case. He does that week after week. We can probably. That's one reason. He is leading the Wisdom Cup Championship. SCAN report from Jim. Phillips talked to a couple of crew chiefs down here some of the drivers Rusty Wallace. He's pretty well pleased with his car right now. Just to Lee in the middle to quarter. Now we've car Kenny Wallace pushy. Real bad according to Kenny Wallace and also Warton's cars loose in the history of the turns which makes me want to push off the corners and back to eleventh position. And that's where he runs right now. He's in danger of losing that a lot of traffic working around him. Marty Schneider. What Tony Stewart? Making the progress. He kinda thought he would make it a little bit slower than we thought he would make. Start the thirty seventh. Currently Up to twenty ninth picking off cars one by one. He had a little bit of contact. Jerry Naidoo on the seventh lap little left right damage for Tony Sort not too bad. What's what's a little more forward fight in? The car with me cannot get on the gas as early as he wants to. Because apart not dripping off of quarters they wanted to against Moore started twenty thirty thirty seven. He's currently up to twenty eighth. They aren't heart. Says he's loose end loose in the middle and loose off. I'd say he's loose. He started thirty first. He is currently up to the thirty first positions making no progress for Dale Earnhardt on the stop taking a rubber at the right rail. Dale earnhardt Chevrolet seems to have his hands full after starting third this afternoon. He's fallen back to the eighth position. Dan Hubbard is about to lose that side by side with Martin Lawrence Martin dive down low into turn one presley backs off the throttle. His position to Martin as they raced through the Dogleg Robert Crested. Just fall in line and try to follow and Martin's tire tracks what he's going to have ricky craven closing in his they get back at number three right down on the bottom line. Looks like that car handling well for Robert Pressley especially for just losing positions. GotTa keep lie this time not to lose any ground is ricky craven closed in on him just a little bit and look a little further back in the field. One of the best races on speedway have been going on between between two of NASCAR's top drivers wheelchair Dale Earnhardt. That would be back for twenty nine. Th Position Earnhardt has been up on his bumper a couple of times pick that one up as they go back to turn over one although Dale's drop up back to car length or so now heart paks and fighting a wickedly loose Chevrolet hurting Marnie Schneider. Dale Earnhardt all arms and elbows in the cockpit as he continues to chase down down Dale Jarrett. Jerry's GonNa hit the dog with about a five car. Lengths advantage over Dale Earnhardt an further back on. Darrell Waltrip Eighth Ricard. Winning together off occurred for Upfront. This Jeff Burton continuing to move out in front just like he did yesterday. A second and a half now the lead over second-place Rusty Wallace was going to be the interesting battle here in a couple of laps. It's going to be wallace trying to hold off Steve Park. He's got a great run. Go and and is now starting to close in with that about three car. Lengths of Wallace's go turn one Steve Park has been really in lap after after lap. And now it comes down to two CARLEX as Wallace rise. A little higher line that he hasn't the pass off to the race for second continues to turn through Wallace using a lot of room down here also also using a lot of race track if he gets deter number. Three in park closes down once again about as close as park has been all afternoon now. Here's what's going to happen at about four or five more laps. Assuming this race stays is green. Jeff Burton is setting such a blistering pace with only thirty one laps. Complete he is within about fifteen to twenty Karolinksa catching the tail end of the field and in that packet traffic is about ten twelve cars that may allow second place Rusty Wallace and Steve Park to make up a little ground dotty if he can't work that traffic that good because a lot of those cars are running side by side thirty one laps laughs complete. Jeff Burton leads are back at Phoenix. International Raceway of the caution flag. It's the first time this afternoon here on lap. Thirty six for an incident at turn four. Well Joe Andy Houston Elliott Sadler and Scott. PRUITT tried to go through turn number. Four Scott Pruitt got nudged just a little bit just enough enough to send a tide right around and that Brought out the yellow flag caution. I won the afternoon comes out at lap number thirty. Six Scott Pruitt did spin around. He is going on around the racetrack and and we'll be able to continue. Pit Road is open as the pace car brings him around and looks like just about everybody is going to make an appearance on pit road to maybe make a chassis adjustment. I think think we'll see a lot of those in a four tire. Change Jeff Burton brings them down this long ways here at Phoenix down to where the leaders will pit all the way around almost over in turn to and as a swing being into pit road right. Now let's go down. Winston Kelly stay part one of the first on the carpet just a little bit tighter. Senator can make a slight track bar adjustment. But that's it Jimmy Smits. They're also on federal more tires and Field Jedburg very happy without his car. Running out chancy adjustment now now. Not Jim. Wallace gets a slight chess. Just but what's to four tires left side going on right now. Johnny bits is right behind him. Then you've got kidding. Wallace Ricky Craven Mike Blessed. We'll wait and go the car of Scott improve the behind. If you've got John Andretti. These cars getting four tires and fuel around up. Marty Snider Tony Stewart wanted more Ford by took out one pound at both. Oh three tires. They went up on the track bar. He started thirty seventh. He's up to twenty four sixteen o on the stop but a stalled the car. Leaving Rhode del Chair and a little bit loose. They took out one round the right rear of Wedge Dale Jarrett From Thirty six to twenty ninth and Dale Earnhardt. took out that rubber thirty first. Two thousand I for Dale Earnhardt and race off pit road is going to be one by Jeremy Mayfield. Those team did a great job in getting him out there. We'll check and find out if they just changed a couple of times. Maybe dumped into fuel. Rusty Wallace comes out. Second and Jeff Burton comes out running third but Ted musk grave. It did not go down the pit lane so he will take over the lead here lap thirty eight. Today's broadcast of the Checker auto parts. Five hundred is brought to you under exclusive radio rights granted by the Phoenix International Raceway to Mr in radio for the private noncommercial use around listening audience any publication reproduction or other use of the description than accounts of this event without the express written consent of him are in radio is prohibited and Jim Phillips Down in front of you. There are a lot of chassis changes going on with air pressure. Ardabil Kitty Wallis now he was really really pushing. That did not want to turn well. Rusty Wallace look like got about a half turned away down the wage bolt so that means his car was a little bit loose getting in the corner. That should stay up a bit. Winston was to Kelly. How you're in the race? Track a lot of chassis changes going on there. Yeah there were a handful of some of the guys is real pleased with how their cars running talked about Robert Pressley earlier fallen back his car just a little bit tight. So they may chassis adjustments there. You mentioned Jeremy Mayfield. His car's been jazz. Take take time. But they elected to go to tire stop mostly for experimental purposes. If that's GonNa work later on in the race Jerry native made an additional stop also Ted. Musk gray who taken over the lead for one lap. Now comes down the pit lane that cycles Jeremy Mayfield back into the lead as we continue to work caution here at Phoenix. Today's broadcast of the Checker auto parts. Five hundred strong by the Brew Masters at Budweiser remind you that. Fresh beer tastes better. By McDonald's. We love to see smile by Remington. Inspired ninety-seven the offer reliable twenty two caliber rifle and five four Warner Brandt auto parts. Borgwarner brand officially licensed by NASCAR. We're back under green flag conditions additions as they raced off to turn number three and four come out of the corner and out of the start finish line. The leader continues to be Jeremy Mayfield. His pit crew back onto the racetrack. I rusty wallace applying heat to him right now and Jeff Burton who rides third a real close together and turn to file coming off of cartoon. Steve Parkway's before Bobby Labonte. He's got traffic in front of them. FEEL MAKES THEIR WAY to turn three couple of cars lined up side-by-side running back there just in front of Bobby Labonte those are the lap cars of Elliott Sadler and Andy Houston is Labonte trying to count his way internee. Those cards aquaphor body look for room to race while a challenge shapes up for the second spot Jeff Burton gets around. Underneath Rusty Wallace Wallace pins down to the end side. Though can't make the pass go into turn one for some reason. Jeff Burton back on the throttle away early for turn one always pick up the pace once again maybe problem Jeff Burton cars now. He falls into clutches of Steve Park. Mark the Dogleg as the leaders have pulled it away from Jeff Burton who's now got himself with lap traffic. He's got Scott Pruitt. The two cars may contact irt just trying to get the handle back counterfeit Gulf War effort and backed out for just a moment. The car little bit off the pace of what the leaders are for the moment. He's just trying to clear himself that traffic but again he's got a problem just hanging onto third spot bought and turned to park and filling his ears from the fourth position. Park pushing talk of her to come off of movies. god-like watch for Park to make a move from four for park taking a look to see whether or not he wants to go three wide. He doesn't gotTA change from the lead up. Front with Rusty Wallace goes to the inside of Jeremy Mayfield. Wallace stood on it flashed right. Oh by take the lead over Jeremy Mayfield now pulls away by two three car links. Meanwhile it is tight racing from third on back in turn one can burn fine Scott Food the outside Jeff Bertrand Racer Steve. Hart Scott Pruitt the fly in the ointment free cars racing. The Dog Ray and against E. Park looks to the inside thinks about three wide past thinks better of it though. Is that get back to number three. Jeff Burton with his hands full with Scott Pruitt. Now he's GonNa clear them in here come saint-marc and while all that's going on Dale Earnhardt Jr. dives onto pit road certainly would be an unscheduled pit. Stop let's get an update. They're going to work on the right side tires. Apparently some tires going down retired out on the right side. There's a chance it's GONNA be a complete four tire stop for the visor. Chevy Cost Dale Earnhardt. Jr. A lot of time you'll have to play catch up the rest of the afternoon. We're back under green forty six laps. Complete about to put but forty-seven Rusty Wallace the new leader as he took it away from Jeremy Mayfield just a lap ago. Jeremy's dropped back a couple of car lengths right now in second place in a moment. Jeff Burton if he can get that car. Dr Wound up doesn't seem to be quite as strong as it was a little bit earlier as he works his way to third place over in turn to not quite sure what the Jeff Burton was was racing with Jeremy. Hey Command. Rusty Wallace backed off the pace. Now he's picking it up putting a little bit of distance between himself Steve Park and he's also closing down. Second Place Running Jeremy Mayfield so whatever it was he may appear appeared. Jeff Burton closing in on journey. Mayfield off at the bundy still having a hard time. Getting through traffic is to lapped cars. Just ahead of him bobby in the fifth position but he's got the cars of Scott. PRUITT Elliott Sadler just ahead and every time twice to pass they lineup double wide Bonnie still riding single file. Online Elliott Sadler and Sadler. Scott pruitt goes repairs knows the tail race deterrent. Three and once again they're gonNA lineup double wide right in front of them. Sadler diets to the inside. Scott pruitt bobby. Labonte nowhere to go. He'll try to follow Elliott Sadler uncle four. That's exactly what he does just stays in line. Bobby's not gonNA take any chances. Put it any wrinkles in that car if he doesn't have to certainly this early in the race. Forty nine laps on the board Rusty Wallace leads. Jeremy Mayfield Second Jeff Burton third. St Park is fourth bobby. Labonte Fifth Jimmy Spencer. Having a good solid run. Jimmy is six Johnny Benson up there in Seventh Ken. Schrader eighth ninth is Jeff. Gordon Ward Burton his tenth. The leaders in three and they are starting to close down on Rusty Wallace Barney. Jeremy Mayfield is closing down. So as Jeff Burton and State Park had ED bombing the body finally making some headway getting that traffic a dove down to the inside of Elliott Sadler. Clear that machine now we to catch Scott Pruitt make the passive that car to get up with the front. What Ford again? We're following the progress of Bobbio Body. Who has been frustrated by traffic Scott? PRUITT would be the next car to the Bobby Labonte to get onto the leaders and got some blur track to work with right now before he catches the car of Scott Pruitt is get back occur. Number three is gonNA wash up a little bit but Bobby Labonte not close enough to take advantage bobby. He just stays right where he is. A couple of colleagues back brings it off Turner before and down the front straightaway single file. Now all the way up through about the top fifteen or sixteen cars look a little further back in the field. Dale Jarrett trying to make up some ground. Tony Stewart after that round of pitstops travel to Bobby Hamilton and Matt Kenseth. They've come together at turn to Hamilton. Hits the wall with a rare the car. Kansas slides his wall to machine to the infield caution on the speedway second one of the afternoon it will come out at fifty one for the field. Let's go back to turn to. They came into turn turn one the entrance of turn one two and three wide. There just wasn't enough real estate to get the job. Done the left record panel Bobby Hamilton got clipped he spawning spawning Matt Kenseth collected him briefly. Touched Bobby Labonte slid to the outside of the track. Pop The wall or I should say Bobby Hamilton pop the wall. The Rear Fish Chevrolet Matt Cans at the window. Net down on that car just took his machine to the inside of turn to both drivers all right. Those two cars were racing for the seventeenth position position. I told you earlier that cancer that had some problems in the first green flag segment of the race. They had made some changes. He was coming up through the field but he got together with Bobby Hamilton. And now they're both entry-level Dannon turn one from the racetrack to the road home. Fill up with soon open. The official Hewlett Nascar Sonoko mixed high quality. Performance feels for the greatest greatest drivers in the world. 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The car still sitting out there Hamilton up against the outside retaining wall cans down the apron of the race track. Let's go out to Dan Hubbard for an update. VR horrible drivers are out and are okay. Emergency crews are now tending to the automobiles trying to get them off the race track. We heard earlier report. That Bobby Hamilton said something might have broke on in the car and that is consistent with what happened. The car just darted to the right almost hopped out of line. So we're going to get an update from the Bobby Hamdan exactly what happened. That will be the only two cars that are not got in the race at the moment would be bobby. Hamilton and Matt Kenseth both have suffered quite a bit of damage. That accident over in turnovers to we told you what would it go. That Dale Earnhardt Jr. was on Pitt rollers. If we can get an update their again well felt like you had a tire going down when they took him off the car. They didn't see anything wrong. One of the things. They are going to research when they get the tires back home whether or not possibility that they had left side tires on the right side and now they label these tires right side left side and the tar compound just a little bit different so the matched correctly as far as what was labeled but that's one of the speculations in the Budweiser Pin. We talked about the Bobby Hamilton situation. He radioed in after the car came to a house and it felt like something I don't think broke in the left rear of the car. Haven't seen any pitstops yet because pit road remains closed. The problem is Matt Kansas car sitting in the middle of the exit of the pit lane over off or number two now they have moved the car. Out of the way and word comes out that they will be opening the pit lane so we should seats more pitstops here in a few moments. Well it is open this time and no one. No takers. So far as the pace car brings some off Turner before and back into the straightaway. Everybody will stay on the racetrack. This is the way they're running rusty. Wallace leads Jeremy Mayfield Second Jeff. Burton is third. Steve Park his his fourth. Bobby the body is fifth. Jimmy Spencer is six. Johnny Benson is seven. Ken schrader rides. Eighth Ninth Is Jeff Gordon and we're just about to talk about Jeff little moment ago. Oh now here comes quite a few cars on pit road will cover some of those stops and get back to Jeff Gordon. In a moment Dave Blaney comes in Mike. Skinner's on pit road. Let's go down tomorrow. Snyder and Terry Levada Joe Nemechek and some of those guys are coming in. Mostly four tire stops. These are the guys at the back of the field. The from understood not come in. Dale Earnhardt did come in however he's a a little bit tight. He was loose earlier tied on this past run. They went up on the track bar for Dale earnhardt was to Kelly by the same situation here on the midsection of pit road. The guys running up toward the front the packers saying if Jeff Burton Rusty Wallace come in we will. They didn't want to give up track position to Sterling Marlin on pit road along with Kennel. Pay a couple of the guys running toward the midsection midsection so they got four tires. A slight chassis adjustment and seventy-six racing fuel. I believe there was one car in front of Jim. Phillips actually three Western we got Ryan but the rookie. He's getting four tires again. Also we had John Andretti at four tires. And Dave Blaney. WHO's looking for a top ten rod here today? He qualified the thirteen th. He was in the first half of the field. Stays out the second. Half pretty much comes in. Here's a few other stops come a lap car Scott PRUITT and Elliott Sadler coming down the pit lane later on in today's broadcast Barney novel. Select the winner of the Rebecca's break the race award. The driver who experiences the best break during today's race. We'll see a five hundred dollars donation award it to the motor racing outreach children's ministries on his behalf rebellious breaks the official breaks of NASCAR fifty seven laps are complete. Dale EARNHARDT Jr. comes onto pit road yet again he. He made an unscheduled stop. Just a moment ago before this caution flag came out the two cars involved in that caution a moment ago where Bobby Hamilton Matt Kenseth and both cars have been hooked to a record and we'll go back to the garage area so rusty Wallace and Jeremy Mayfield have been the dominant cars. Thus far in the event Jeff Burton has been a factor although after that first round of pitstops when they came aim it a little bit earlier and they went back on the race track shifts just dropped back a little bit in the field. Couldn't seem to get back up there. Although he's not lost touch with the leaders just wasn't quite as good a car door. Didn't seem to be Steve Park. Mark Still Rides Forth Bob in the body just being very patient like he always is every Sunday and when it comes time to go he will be there you can tell. Joe Is looking at his car. We talked about earlier. Car is good enough to get up there. Maybe diced for the lead. But why bother I. Guess I think we'll probably see a little more from him later on the afternoon. He's no doubt saving so far. Six lead changes. It is among four drivers here this afternoon. Two caution flags waved in two cars out of the event both Bobby Hamilton and Matt Kenseth Kansas. Already taken back to the garage. Hamilton's Morton's car being pulled back into the garage. We'll get word from those drivers in just a moment as the one that goes signaled is displayed on next week. Are In radio wraps up. Its broadcast season of Nascar Winston. The Cup Nascar Busch series racing at the homestead. Miami speedway are big weekend coverage begins on Friday afternoon but pole qualifying for the pennzoil. Four hundred to twenty eastern time on Friday then on Saturday. The Nascar Busch series season finale. The Miami Three hundred twelve forty five PM is airtime for that on Sunday. The pennzoil four hundred by discount auto parts twelve noon eastern time. Call the homestead Miami speedway. Join us if you can beautiful weekend of racing in south Florida and if not you'll hear it right here on Marin radio feel about a half flap way from going back to green. They'll chase rusty wallace and Jeremy Mayfield. Who will start at the head of the Pack Jeff Burton will restart third gave the top ten a moment ago and look a little further back? We're waiting the cars. Come around and get the green flag. Eleventh would be Mark Martin. Ricky Rudd has moved up to Twelfth Ricky Craven. Having a good day ricky is thirteenth. Kenny Wallace is fourteenth restarting fifteenth. Teeth will be Brett Bodine and Brett also has looked very good out there. We watched him work traffic between the two cautions and get himself about ten or fifteen positions closer to the front of that was under green flag racing. He's doing a good job here. This afternoon Robert Pressley is slid back to sixteenth after having good qualifying run Tony. Stewart's up to seventeenth now. Wally Dolon back eighteenth. Nineteenth is Dale Jarrett and Mike Bliss make up the top twenty as the pace car leads. The field turn forever. File restart the cars of Scott. pruitt Elliott Sadler and also the Dale Earnhardt Jr. Machine lead and Andy Houston work in the inside lane. As Rusty Wallace. The race leader brings down the line back onto the green flag. Here's Jeff Burton sitting third trying to find a way to get by. He's trapping happen traffic going into turn one off. Walls guest enjoyed by a car. Lincoln half of our sliding Jeremy Mayfield now. Mayfield gathered enough cases downhill dogleg and they're starting to stack up from third on back as a tight ride slides right up in between Jeff Burton. Now Steve Park Dale earnhardt. Jr. is right there so heavy lap traffic for the leaders. Jeremy Mayfield getting real aggressive Zuberi. Early he really punched the throttle. After rusty down the back straightaway got right on his bumper. Couldn't get around him. Did the same thing through three or four. He's after him again and turn one higher. I nine is Jeremy. Mayfield trying to pass the leader Rusty Wallace. Nothing doing this time around Jeff. Berg continues to write in third parties. Four and right behind them comes Dale Earnhardt. WHO's a slapdown bobby? Labonte to the inside of Andy Houston as they race. Back to turn number three double file through their bobby. Labonte takes down Jimmy Spencer. We'll follow along. Rusty Wallace leads. The off turn four back to the line as we go to the garage and Mackenzie has come from the Care Center. What happened Matt broke underneath a four car and You know start spending and bobby out and then We ran it over and it popped the right front so it just Just bad luck enrolled right on the right front. I heard it blow out and just went straight to all a lot of damage to the Dewalt Ford especially especially the right side. That young man does not tear much equipment and today not his fault here he got caught up in an accident over there. Do not to his own making when Bobby Hamilton had something break on the the car scramble the Racetrack now third place is go back to turn one Jeff. Vert has cleared the Latte machine of Scott Pruitt and now it will be hard problem to get around Pruitt Jeff Jeff Burton however from the third spot is chasing. Jeremy Mayfield is about five car. Legs back from Jeremy Mayfield. Mayfield about seven back from Rusty Wallace Scott or excuse me Steve Park running in that fourth position still trying to get by Scott Pruitt. Trump's six dollars back some good rice going on Jimmy. Spencer has the six position Johnny Benson said seventh. They both had a squeezed down. Low to get by Andy Houston now. eighth-place Ken schrader works. The inside lane trying to clear the traffic at turn. One schrader real clear avenues and turn one trader again tried to chase race down that jewel of Jimmy Johnny Benson and Jeff. Gordon is in that mix as well. He Lands Upright Behind Kenny. schrader out of the inside a Houston Ward. Burton's there ricky. Rudd John Is. They're trying to work with the inside. Andy Houston current four and he's writer like nothing better than the cup win here. This afternoon said a little bit earlier in the week. We've got a good race car here. You just need a little luck and Kenny can get around this place about as good as anybody. The leaders in turn to trainer just in front of Jeff Lord important wiggled a little bit of Wartburg quotes. Moment there Steve Park in his hands full again with Scott Pruitt through the DOGLEG and watching that battle between Jeff. Gordon and Ken schrader hits. The dogleg. Gordon closes in. Now they're lined up his st be part goes to the inside of Scott Pruitt. Dale earnhardt junior racing for the eighth position. Jeff Gordon trying to get by Ken schrader just ahead of them for the six position Jimmy Spencer busy trying to hold off Johnny Benson but it is Rusty Wallace continuing to show the way after sixty five laps. It is title among the front three here. The Santa the early stages the deer Luke. Five hundred rest of the field starting at kind of spread out with some lap car separating them to washing a good battle going on between the Jeff Gordon got by Ken Schrader just just a few moments ago. He's making another move down the back straightaway. Move is already done Joe. He goes to the inside a Johnny Benson as they work through the Dogleg. Now John or Johnny Benson's GonNa have to follow Jeff Gordon Morten. That's exactly what he'll do would come off the Corner Gordon pulls away a couple of colleagues. We set a goal that Rick Mass had slowed a little bit on the racetrack. But little puff of smoke out of the machine he went to to his pit has now gone back onto the racetrack. Get an update their kinda right side tires. Not sure which one it is yet but they came in change two right side tires back on the race. Track their check. You can see which one may have gotten cut down Rick Masters back on the speedway let play catchup. All Tho- tightening up a little bit among the front three Rusty Wallace being the leader. Jeremy Mayfield ride second. Second Jeff Burton is third just about carling between those three as a sweep down to turn one down your Barney. Those top three four hookup wallace. Mayfield and Bert. Nobody comes flying into adhere to turn one like host reach their way through the Dogleg. gotTa wonder now whether Rusty is just being a little bit patient. Because Jeremy Mayfield as closing down so is Jeff Burton. These three cars is that they've been in the last. Several laps. Hit the leaders now working above turn number four checking. The progress of a couple look is one who started near the front yard. Ryan Newman. He started at the ten th position now soldiering along in thirty five. I'm sure getting a lot of experience here this afternoon. The other Tony Stewart who started back in thirty seventh position and he has come to life here the last few laps. He's moved up to the fourteenth fourteenth position and is starting to put on the charge. Working more traffic stewart is off turnover to try to get by the car ricky craven. That's follow that. Battled into turn three as a hit to the DOGLEG. Dogleg Tony Stores can look to the inside. Ricky Craven Craven is there to throw off the blocks though and Craven House will has his hands full. Because he's got Andy Houston but now store to the inside. Tony drives it hard down to the Apron of the racetrack. Just was not room there. He had no choice but to back out of the problem. Just tuck in behind ricky craven little further back into paxil strong racing going on also also between Ricky Rudd Ken Schrader and Ward Burton. That's over in turn to coming up until it is rough ride to find some racing room between himself and Ward Burton there side by side coming off the corner racing deterrent three in a watch that battle a little bit further back between Dale Jarrett. Dale Earnhardt Earnhardt to the outside of Robert. Pressley Dale Jarrett. They're thinking about three wide before racing racing for the seventeenth position. Robert Pressley has the spot. He's also got the inside lane. EARNHARDT makes a power moved to the outside picks up seventeen. Here's Dale Jarrett trying to follow his tire tracks charrette and hurt hardest and counted on each other laugh after laugh. I'm not sure if they're helping each other hurt each other right now. Give the advantage earnhardt over Jarrett Jarrett's able to get by one of the KEARNS. There's also that car being Robert Pressley Sterling Marlin to the outside Robert Pressley. Wallet backlots a piece of this action. All of this turns three while he thinks better of it. Just touch back in single. Single file will not try to get down to the inside of the racetrack as they worked their way off the corner and back down toward turned number. One Robert pressley still pinch to the bottom of the speedway at the front of the field. I won't go. It looked like we were GONNA have change for just a second coming from four and going down to one Jeremy Mayfield doing everything he can to get a fender underneath rusty wallace. Rusty's not going to let him do what he did a little bit earlier to get by as they go back to turn. One bayfield has experimented with my doing now. Jeff Burton will go up high in the third spot. Still both of those guys trying to chase down rusty wallace deterrent. Three right now rusty just taking both of these drivers to school rusty out Front Mayfield back there by about two car lengths than two more back to Jeff Burton Burton washing up the racetrack music. A completely different line than the other. Two cars expect another scramble further back of the pack. Good run here in the early stages for Darrell. WALTRIP started thirty thirty four. He's in the twenty-six position leading Joe Nemechek and a pack of about twelve cars overturn. Three eight is a whole bunch of cars. These leading Joe is Dale Waltrip and Nemechek check together a couple of laps ago. Did some beaten banging off a turn. Number four Darrell said a little bit earlier this morning. This is my kind of racetrack. got a good race car here today. How well will do? I don't know we'll wait and see how the car fields apparently feels pretty good as he's having a decent run right now. Seventy nine laps going to scoreboard. Let's take you back through. At least the top twenty. Five Rusty Wallace leads Jeremy Mayfield. Jeff Burton Steve Park. And Bobby Labonte is the top five. Then Jimmy. Spencer continues to run strong. Jimmy is six Jeff Gordon Seventh. Ricky Rudd is eight Johnny Benson hangs in there night. Ken schrader solid dollars. Run for him his tenth eleventh would be Ward Burton mark. Martin is now fourteenth. Tony Stewart's up to thirteen. Ricky Craven is Fourteenth Brett. Bodine is up to fifteenth. Dale earnhardt is now now sixteenth seventeenth would be Dale Jarrett. Kenny Wallace Reid's eighteenth sterling Marlin Nineteenth. Robert Pressley this twentieth. twenty-first is by skinner wally. Donald Back twenty-second Dave. Blaney hangs on the twenty-third Mike. Bliss twenty-fourth and narrow Walter is now twenty fifth. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification on Mr in radio the Voice of fast car. Two two thousand. Our radio live this afternoon in Phoenix Arizona at Phoenix International raceway bringing you live coverage of the checker auto parts. Five hundred the thirty thirty second race of the thirty four this season right now. It is Rusty Wallace showing the way. We've had changes six times among four drivers this afternoon. Two caution flags have flown. There are two cars out of the race bobby. Hamilton and Matt Kenseth Rusty Wallace leads the way. It's Jeremy Mayfield. Second Jeff Burton Third Steve Park fourth and bobby the Bonnie fifth after after eighty two of three hundred twelve laps. It wasn't just built to be a museum. It was built to be a shrine to the history heritage and Future of the sport. We loved him and visit the Nascar Hall of fame and see how petty earnhardt and hundreds of other NASCAR legends became. Heroes Watch their most electrifying moments experience. It's realistic racing simulators and much more planet trip to the Nascar Hall of fame in Charlotte Tickets at Nascar Hall Dot Com Nascar Holler fake. This is our sport. This is our house over. Jesse's rally auto parts story as a nurse not making it to work was not an option but driving through the snow with my wiper blades struggling. I just didn't feel state so I pulled into a reilly auto parts and before I knew it and employee were you was offering to install the wiper blades on my car. I got to stay out of the snow for a moment and I still made it to work on time Parts Rusty Wallace is the leader of the checker auto parts. Five hundred with Jeremy Mayfield two tenths of a second behind him Jeff. Burton's they're close to them as well a half second back followed by Steve Park. And Bobby the body for the Phoenix International Raceway. This is our radio. Today's broadcast of the Checker auto parts. Five hundred by goody's headache powder. The official pain reliever of NASCAR BY gatorade thirst. I quit you either. have it or you don't Gatorade isn't it. You buy a home depot. The official Home Improvement Warehouse of Nas car and by Ford. The official truck of NASCAR built Ford tough. Jeremy Field just would not be denied to grab the lead a couple of laps ago. Away from Rusty Wallace is now pulling away from rusty by about a carling rust. He's got his hands full with Jeff Burton as they come off Turner before Jeff is all over the rear deck of the mental light. Ford couldn't get around him. He's GONNA trailer him down into turn one the can put a move on. They're burke took a brief look at the inside thinks he'll try. That highline around Rusty Wallace definitely has his hands full now that Miller lite for both of them chasing Jeremy Mayfield to turn through. Got A scar questioning lessening the handling onboard that Miller lite court because he is washing up the race track. That's what allowed. Jeremy May feel to go by in the last couple of times again wallace up the Racetrack Burton will look not close also enough to make the past. Yes Burton smells an opportunity. Wants to take a stab at it. If he can and looks like quarters is where his best opportunity is presented. Follow that battle for second back to turn one right RIGHTO. Because on the straightaways wallace can pull away and defend his second spot. Burton looks down. Low is the exit turn to nothing doing their single file through the Dogleg and the got about a two car arlit vantage over Jeff Burton Rusty Wallace to get back to turn number three. That quickly evaporates however is jeff burt roles right onto the back in the Miller lite four you can get up there almost to the bumper. They can't get around. He can't even get offender down underneath rusty because when they come off the corner. Wallace has plenty of horsepower. In the front straightaway. Jeremy Mayfield leads Rusty Wallace. Jeff Burton Steve Parkin Arken. Bobby Davonte the top five. Steve Parkin Bob in the body are about a half a straightaway behind the front three. Why don't we take a sweep down through pit road right now and get some information? I over to Jim Phillips. Well let's take a look at what wind even the young open wheel driver bike. It is West to cut debut here today. What to expect to get out of this race today you talked to his crew? Chief Matt Borland. What takes back? What do you expect to get out of? Today's rates for riot it out of the race today variety of Legis ran lives. Get him a lot of experience and Hopefully disadvantaged how's he doing right now is doing just fine. That's a Christie. Fat Bullet says Witherspoon other specifications for today's race. He's doing just fine. He came in on lap fifty six. They've got four tires. Lost a lot of track decision which the Kelly talked about a couple of drivers who have fallen back Robert Ressler. We talked with the opening of the show. They started thirties now. Back in twenty first the car very different from yesterday I I started the race. It's a little bit better than on the first run. But he's still a little bit tight he's looking to stay in the top twenty five points. He's one hundred. Nineteen points ahead of Michael Walter. WHO's a couple of positions back for Chan? Twenty six not in the race today. So that's the key for Robert Pressley day plenty also follows back. These started thirteen his car. Also tight running back in the twenty second position looking at turnaround. Bad luck the last six straight races. He's been outside the top twenty today. Lady looking at turnout around those a couple of the guys going backwards about somebody's going forward is Marty Schneider. And that is Jeff Ford and it started twenty four up to seven now phoenix arguably over the history. Just for your Jeff. Gordon's career has been his worse racetrack. He's never finished very well. He's never one here. One of the few tracks Never WanNa fact Friday. Jeff Gordon Joke. That's the reason as and we hired Robbie loomis now who is of course a former winning crew chief here are very good for Jeff Gordon Right now. Running in the eight to just got to take him out ricky little all tied off. They're gonNA take out one round of how the left rear when he does make his pit. Stop the Jeff Gordon. Overall Fairly happy considering taught at twenty four Tony Stewart started thirty eighty seven his car very fast as well. He is up to the ninth position. The cars very good. They plan on no adjustments. Now one thing allow. The coach is keeping an eye on is how well Jeremy Mayfield is doing after having just taken to tires a lot of crews are continuing to hire staff on this next pitstop we factor various certainly between cruise down there seeing the two tires working. Well for Jeremy Mayfield. Ninety six laps on the scoreboard here at Phoenix. This afternoon as they continue to scramble and work their way around the speedway right now nobody has been able to do much with your Mayfield Rusty Wallace. Certainly they have been to dominant cars. Those cars continue to hold their spots. Meanwhile a problem for rich bickel close housecall for him up there at turn to Jeff Siegel. Yeah he came about two feet from making contact with the Wall came in just broke right straight towards the outside walkout gathered back up and is able to drive away. Bickel driving the power team. CARTHAGO bessie this weekend. As a second-place battle is on again going to turn over three Jeff Burton finds the inside lane. Underneath rusty wallace grabs. Was it at least momentarily. Here's rusty trying to pull back and retake the position. But Bert gets off the corner. Little better he'll take the second spot rusty false back in line and Third Wallace's long since thirty years fighting and ill handling Ford you can see his arms moving back and forth on the wheel as he exits turn to so. He's going to do everything he can to try to stay on the coattails of Jeff Burton and Jeff Burton Gordon pulling away now by to make it three carling over Rusty Wallace and behind him come. Dale earnhardt Jr. albeit a lap. Down that car very fast as he tries to get back on the lead lap ninety eight laps go up on the school. Board as leader workshops way across the line germ. You may feel. We'll be catching the tail. End of some cars down there and have to thread his way through traffic in just a moment back at Phoenix International. Raceway this afternoon we have just completed pitstops. After caution flag came out rich. Bickel cut a tire at a close call up in turn number four made aided back down the pit lane safely as adjustments on his car. We've had quite an interesting day as we close into the halfway point of the race here today. Fifteen lead changes among ten different for drivers most recently Jeff Burton. He was the fastest off the pit lane so he regained the top position. He's lead for about four times here this afternoon. Cautions if wave three times today on lap thirty-six when Andy Houston and Scott PRUITT got together at number four on lap fifty one when both Matt Kenseth and Bobby. Hamilton were eliminated. They crashed going into turn number one and here on lap. One forty eighty seven with rich nickel had his problem of internal before the only cars out of the race at this stage are Bobby Hamilton and Matt Kenseth again. It's Jeff Burton leading as we get the go signal and should be coming up next time by Jimmy Spencer. Second Rusty Wallace Third Steve Park fourth body. The body is fifth at good heads. Up Move May just a moment ago by Jeremy Mayfield is paid it off for him to get himself back on the lead lap and stay up there to make sure he was in a position to do it in case the caution came out after this round of pitstops Jeremy is back on the lead lap and he is running in thirteenth position nations. So still very much. A factor got a good race car here today. Pit Strategy beginning to be played out just a bit. Now they right now. We're seeing more and more cars take two tires. After that was brought up a moment go that it worked very effectively for a couple of machines at went in earlier today. Let's get an update on that for Marty Snider Lombardi you a lot of teams watched Jeremy Mayfield in That I run when he took on to tires and certainly did not hurt him at all and a lot of teams consider that Teamed on this road went with four tires. Time like Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon however but some of the the guys out Front Jeff Burton and the the like they went with two tires. This time around. We'll see if the pays off them as well bleep. Rusty did the same thing didn't he. Jim Phillips Survey with four Tires Barney. ask did Johnny Vincit. Also Was Car behind him. Jetty Wallace all went with four Wasn't any talk down your about at this point in the race could come up later although might go to. We'll talk a little bit about the championship. Joey came on the air. We said that Bobby Labonte could not clinch the championship here today. But he could certainly put himself itself in a position to almost totally eliminate everybody else if bobby leaves here today with a lead of three hundred and two points are more. He need only start the final two races to win the championship or if he should finish fourteenth better in the last three races he wins regardless of what Dale Earnhardt does. So he doesn't WanNa talk about the championship very much and he says you know if it wasn't for you guys ask continually reminding me of it. I could probably do a better job of getting out here and racing. Everyone wants to hear from the guy who's leading the points and who's in line to win the championship. Bobby says we've got to keep our head on straight gin the race car and do what we've done since the very first race this year. That is trying to win each individual rights. And it's quite obvious that yeah they're using a lot out of common sense when you go into a race not taking any chances but they are running to win the race not running for the championship. If he was running for the championship and not thinking about the race. You'd see back here in twentieth or someplace which would be pretty snug for him. I think fourteenth position are better win and the championship no matter what anybody else does in the final three races. But here's Bobby Labonte a bunny. He's been hard-charging all day. And Right now running fifth tell you what that team has done a great job all year long and they've they've dodged a few bullets. Yeah sure they have at. The team has been rock solid. All season long in the key to that thing is when you get down toward the end of the year. You don't change the strategy that's worked for you to get you where you are if you keep racing like you have been all year whether it's running to win or whether it's running to finish in the top five. Those are the people that usually end up running for the wants to cup championship. And Bobby the body despite the fact that he doesn't WanNa talk about it. Everybody likes his odds. That's for sure absolutely and he has dodged a big bullets over the last several weeks. We've had some great races early on and we've been really good of late two and we've had some things happened that could have been a lot worse but You know the same thing you know. been able to dodge bullets here and there but You know at the same time. We're uh we just keep plugging along at close call at Martinsville. Few weeks ago when he got turned completely around. Remember that one and then also at Last week We were at Or two weeks ago at Rockingham when he had a problem came in at a little bit too early. Dale earnhardt could've gained a lot of ground within Dale had problems in the closing laps of the race. So so far look is writing with Bobby. The body body. That's been the one thing that's hurt earnhardt this year every time. He's had a chance at bobby has had Not really a bad day today where he could have lost some points. earnhardt could a gain some day. You'll just has not been able to capitalize on it. And that's kind of kept him back with just three races to go here. A still has a mathematical chance to get it done. But Bobby Labonte is going to have to have some awful bad finishes in the next next three four Dale earnhardt to pull out his eighth and record-setting Western Cup Championship. And it's still very much on his mind he says if I don't do this year I'll be back next year the year after. I'm I'm going to do it getting ready to go back to Greenpeace car off the banking up internal before we'll go to green at lap one fifty five just believe a lap if my mathematics right. That's that's the way I figure it. This has got to be one of those interesting restarts. four-car sit right in front of the race leader going to turn one heavy traffic for Jeff Burton. I tried to get the outside of Kenny. schrader customer Jimmy. Spencer is in the second spot rusty Wallace in third. Jeff Burton a good jumping still got that left traffic right in front of mental fall. All back in line behind Kenny schrader. We've got three cars in front of him. Jimmy Spencer lines up right behind must grave will lead them all. Turn for out of the corner back into the front straightaway. Three free cars directly ahead of the leader of all three of those should be on the tail end of the lead lap has Jeff Burton would like to put him a lap down as he works his way back to turn over one of those cars are scrambling as they race. Jason determine what we're going to have his hands full still has not gotten around those free cars Jimmy Spencer a very close second double file at the very front of the field. Nemechek to the inside out of Moss grave then come schrader then comes race leader. Jeff Burton. He has absolutely nowhere to go. Martin looking for room to make a move just behind him Jimmy Spencer busy there with his hands. Full trying fly to hold off. Rusty Wallace Wallace dropped out of the inside. This is the challenge for second floor. Cars in front are three. Why Trust? And he's got back on the throttle. Chevy Spencer career Rusty Wallace makes the move for a second there side by side with the dog. Learn everybody's stacking up behind these cars trying to hold onto the lead lab Jeff Burton with nowhere go then comes rusty wallace these car single file but again they're gonNA wind work their way back out of the corner trying to keep Jeff Burton back there so they can stay on the tail end of the lead lap. Kenny schrader and Joe Nemechek and Ted. Musk is go back to turn one. There's still plenty quick warning just in front of Jeff Burton Rusty Wallace taken away. The second he's rushing for the paid off Jeff Burton showing awful lot of patients while they race and scramble in front of him but Rusty Wallace may not be quite so patient he closes in behind. Jeopardy's still pinned attended behind Ken. Schrader spray side-by-side Wallace's putting pressure on Jeff Burton for the lead. Meanwhile Steve Park starting to close in on Rusty Wallace. Here comes Jimmy Spitzer the pack as well. He lost two spots while they're all bunched up together behind three lap. Cars turn one single file into turn. One has lost his patience now bumping tone name a check off of turn two in the backstretch things are starting to string out now single file that may play into the hands of Jeff Burton. He's going to try to go to the inside of Joe Nemechek. He may have to use the public. Won't be able to get him because NEMECHEK PENZA car real low comes out of the corner again swings over in front of the leader. Now believe Burton's GonNa take run if he doesn't Rusty Wallace assist their free deep and one rushing wall guys. Download the bottom of the racetrack drawing oxide. Jeff Burton per to per knocks around with Wallace. Just a little bit and maintain the lead headed to turn right behind. Rusty Wallace comes. Steve Park then comes Jimmy Spencer and John Andretti as they race back turn number three Jeff Burton no still riding in the tire tracks of Joe nemechek Kodama check really liked seeing rusty wallace. Take a stab at Jeff Burton. That allowed him to get away by a couple of car links. Not much though lead. Pack now single file working think through traffic interred one again must schrader me. matric trying to stay on the lead left. Jeff Berg too hot on their heels Rusty Walson second state park applying the pressure from third. And these were playing a lot of pressure. He looks at the inside of Rusty Wallace as they work through the dog like what he's not close enough to make the past. Meanwhile the Front of the Field Jeff Burton still has his hands full. Meanwhile Matt Kenseth who was involved in the accident. Down internal earlier brings his car back onto the speedway makes one lap and then takes it back into the garage area. Lap 162 Jeff Burton is leader Rusty St Wallace putting a lot of heat on him so esteemed park over to turn to coming up to Rusty Wallace. Really applying pressure. Jeff Burton Burton looks at the inside of Nemechek trying to counted way underneath. Joe NEMECHEK NEMECHEK will slam the door and hold it down to the bottom of the racetrack. You'll spend off. The abandonment of jeopardy does doing all he can to stay on the tail end of the lap. Hoping maybe a caution flag will come out but Jeff Burton hangs onto the top spot. Rusty Wallace's fallen back in line. He's in second. Steve Park is third Jimmy Spencer fourth and Fifth Ricky. Rudd God just past the halfway mark. Let's go inside the NASCAR garage brought to you. By Napa celebrating their seventy fifth anniversary. NAPA is where NASCAR fans get their parts. Jeff Burton has cleared the car of Joe Nemechek. He's also made a move by several other lapped APP cars. He is way out in front with race. Lead the good racist going on for the second spot and that good races over Rusty Wallace now moved by Steve Park. Jimmy Spencer falls in line in the fourth position. It's Ricky Rudd V. Bobby Labonte is six seventh. Is Tony Stewart Eight. This Mark Martin. Ninth is Dale Earnhardt and tenth now is Ward Burton. Don't believe that race as per second is over it's still a good one downturn one. It is often Steve Bar trying to hang onto the shirt tails off Wallis Wallet Washes Up High. A Little Rock occur to vacation Caja. Second spot. Steve Parkinson Firs Park at Ben up along the outside of Rusty Wallace what unable to admit the advancements and fell back in line as where he is right. Now then comes timmy. Spencer Ricky he run all over the back end of Spencer real good rice going on there for the fourth position. Couple of Ford's going at it. Here's Ricky Rudd. Pull into the end side Jimmy Spencer just about dead even process at the start. Finish Shlein fencer backs out on the final before they enter. Turn one his position to Ricky Rudd. Run obviously the man on the move on the rear bumper up. Steve Steve Park trying to do the same thing to rusty wallace later checked out so wallace run second State Park close in. He's running in third and Ricky Rudd to Spencer and Bobby Labonte host three cars. We talked about a moment. Go being on the tail end of the lead lap. Two of those have now gone a lap down Ken schrader and Joe Nemechek. Ted Musgrave will be the next one that Jeff Burton will try to put a lap down as he goes off to one. Jeff Burton is in a race all by himself he's really cruising through turns. One and two sets ten must brave and his battle for second still close between Wallison State Bar Park just to ooh car legs back behind Rusty Wallace. They go through the Dogleg back to turn number three wallace trying to hold off the park off. Four looking a little further back Tony Stewart continuous plowing going to the field. He's up to the seventh position. Got A little traffic to deal with. He falls in line behind John. Andretti back at eight. This pretty tight racing well Mark Martin. They're just behind him. Dale Earnhardt and Ward Burton Mark Martin Dale Earnhardt and Wartburg handle turn one and two single file racing. Martin looks pretty clean coming off the corner. Dale earnhardt in hot pursuit through the dog. Dog Way. Mark Martin is going to lead this group down. There also added to the Mix Jeff Gordon who runs just behind Ward Burton Mark Martin to par links out front of Dale Earnhardt. Bobby the body on the move again. This time he pulls up alongside Jimmy. Spencer tries to get around Jimmy Spencer as they work their way back into turnover one side by side wheel the wheel into turn one into news. Spencer not going to give the position the body so easily. Not as easy as Nevada twins Jimmy Spencer down the backpack using that inside grew. Bobby Labonte drives by Jimmy Jimmy Spencer as they get back at number three hill stretch that advantage without a car link lobby bounty on a charge spitzer starting to wash up a little bit in the corners opening the inside lane. Here comes Tony Tony Stewart. Better believe he'll cash in and take advantage of this. He's just a couple of car lengths behind Spitzer. Now's race back to turn one. That's obvious Jimmy Spencer's not comfortable in the corners back off the gas gas even before the answers have turned one much more so than the other guys that allows Tony Store now. Closed down the backstretch. Tony Stewart closes in Bobby Labonte stretches advantage over over Jimmy Spencer and as they get back to number three Dan homers mentioned. Tony Stewart runs down Jimmy Spencer. Steve Park has thoughts are taking second place away from Rusty Wallace. He had a run on him coming off off the corner. He's got a little help. Little push by Ricky Rudd to get him up there to go back to turn one. Ricky right is right on the rear bumper of state park multiple guys trying to chase down. Wallace Lefty Wallace so far Wallace asking the second spot host retires through the expert. Joe Nemechek is going to drop down right in front of Ricky Rudd but rudd's going to try and get a fender up alongside I. He'll do that he'll go by him. Now it's nice for Steve Park Rusty pulls away a little bit from Steve Park. Rusty's and second park is third Ricky Rudd now clears Joe Nemechek. He's back in. The the fourth position is Mark Martin out of the groove off turn number four. Let's three or four cars bypass Ablett's follow mark. Martin returned one. Dale Jarrett's needs by on the inside. So not just Jeff Gordon Moore Bert Horton twice to clamber onto the rear bumper of Dale Jarrett. Jared pulls away if they voted to turn three. It's a five car freight train. Dale Earnhardt Ward Lord Burton Jeff Gordon Dale Jarrett Mark. Martin Mark Martineau running at the tail. End Of this group. All scrambled through turnover. Four back into the straightaway. Talking about Mark Martin just a moment ago he he and Dale Earnhardt got together just at the exit of turnover four. They touched a little bit. Mark's car comes skittering out towards the wall did a good job keeping it out on the wall because he almost hit it there right now. One hundred seventy eight laps. Her reeled off here at Phoenix this afternoon. Jeff Burton continues to lead Rusty Wallace. Steve Park Ricky Rudd and Bobby Labonte the top five. Tony Stewart very solid racecar here. This afternoon he is six. Jimmy Spencer's had a great day. Jimmy is seven. Dale Earnhardt is now moved up to eighth. Ward Burton would be ninth tenth. Is Jeff Gordon. Dale Jack would be eleventh. Mark Martin is now slid back to twelfth. After almost getting in the wall off turn four Jeremy Mayfield. Thirteenth Fourteenth is Mike. Skinner and fifteenth is Johnny. Johnny Benson got one hundred thirty three laps to go. Let's cover some developing stories on pit road Jim Phillips. Let's talk about Rusty Wallace. Joe took that round away half around that last pitstop that settled the card out now. He's happy with it. And the crew says we expect at least no worse than third today for the cars. Ready settled down Rusty Wallace. We've these efforts right now. Problems for Kenny schrader off turnover. Four problems continue for schrader almost in the wall in turn one he keeps it off the wall although he wrote the marble for a while. He's got a cut right front tire. Kenny schrader did a great job of saving the car. And now he slows down down. The backstretch raiders running on the lead lap now struggling to make his way back around the race track to his pit stall. We've completed one hundred eighty one laps of Jeff. Burton elite here at Phoenix in today's broadcast on the Checker auto parts. Five hundred has brought to you by seventy six products makers of the official fuel of mass card by coca-cola the official softdrink Ashara fans by team monte-carlo. The Kars four champions depend on Shammy will be there and five hundred Brandt auto parts or one brand officially licensed list by NASCAR one hundred eighty six laps already in the record book here this afternoon. Jeff Burton continues to lead Rusty Wallace. Ricky Rudd Steve Parkin bobbing the body. The top five Tony Stewart ride six. Jimmy Spencer is seventh. He's had a great day. Dale earnhardt continuing to move up but unfortunately earnhardt is still behind Bob in the body as those to go head the head for the Winston Cup Championship. What are we going to EARNHARDT's pit get an update their Marty Schneider born the last stop? Dale earnhardt onto tires find out from Kevin Hamlin House the car reacting into the to tire so far. It's not too bad but right now is set up to lose owner struggling to set up all weekend in vigorous or Bush. But hopefully we'll get a little bit more time. Here's another chance to buy what happened with him and mark mark be left seagal turned earn four. No he never did say anything. I never did see the rape look like they made a little contact coming off. Turn four a little while ago. Dale earnhardt currently up in the the eighth position earnhardt struggling trying to hold onto that spot. Dale Jarrett all over him plus Ward Burton and Jeff Gordon closing in on Earnhardt. Who has the eighth position? What what are the fastest cars out there? Right now. As Jeremy Mayfield remember just before the halfway mark he ran out of gas off pit road lost a lap regain the lap western Kelly. He's up to twelve now. The talkers coach Steve. He's making some progress on the league. Lapworth saying about the car the car for good and I think we'll be there in. Yeah right now. We're just kind of riding and spilling it out because we're on to tires everybody else got horse. I think we are. They were on to tires earlier. This is the car that they ran in Rockingham. The friendly at least one hundred and eighty laps. That was Steve Late. who serving his pro cheap this weekend? Peter Suspends are normally the crew. Chief was attending his grandmother's funeral in New York. Planning to come back to Phoenix and an uncle of his unfortunately was struck by a car leaving the funeral and killed so Peter Suspense. Staying in. New York's condolences. Peterson spent and his his family with the crew of Jeremy Filled on an awful job in his absence this afternoon. Jeremy doing everything he can to get back up there. It'd be a factor to win here at Phoenix this afternoon. As is he continues to work laps. One hundred twenty one is all that remained here at Phoenix this afternoon. With watching Steve Park and bobby the body and Tony Stewart Jimmy Spencer. They're you're just a moment ago getting a little bit less distance between those cars I guess would be the best way to put it while Jeff Burton has now pulled away a full three seconds plus us on Rusty Wallace that translates almost two thirds of a straight away for the leader as he goes back to one. What's amazing Barney's is really off the throttle through turns one or two you can barely hear the car so jeff? Burton is hooked up great battle for second going on between Rusty Wallace and ricky rudd modern deterrent three rookie to the inside of Teddy must grave on the backstretch. Now through the Dogleg glad. But that's gonNA allow Rusty Wallace to open up the advantage to about two carling's at head been down to just about a car link between Wallace and Rodrick nails at Ford right down to the bottom line off. Turn four tries to to get Iran on rusty. Wallace can't quite do it behind them. You've got the lapped car of Ted. Musk grave did come. Steve Park the teammates. By the bonding Tony Stewart Busting Wallison. The second spot. Just Scott The wakeup call. And now he starts to put a little bit of distance between himself and Ricky Rudd about two and a half per links down the backstretch and further back. Bobby Labonte and Tony Stewart. Stuart's going to try the outside outside group and he'll make it stick long way around but Tony Stewart. Just drive by his teammate. Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd again tries to get around some lap traffic and get up there and catch Rusty Wallace and take a shot at he'd be loses a couple of carling system. That's going to be the scrambled for second place. Back and warn. Ricky Rudd cleared the last car of Ryan. Newman and that does give give Rusty Wallace just a little bit of Breathing Room Steve Park now sandwiched between ten bus bridge avenue. In here comes Tony Stewart. Writing himself in the fifth position Rusty Wallace with about three back to Ricky Rudd. Then you've got that lap Carb Ryan Newman. Then Steve Kerr Ted. Musk grave Tony Stewart. WHO's on the charge talking about raising from second on back? This is happening. Four seconds behind race leader Jeff Burton. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification on an radio. The Voice of Nascar two thousand. Mr In radio live this afternoon at Phoenix International raceway bringing you live coverage of the Checker auto parts five hundred thirty second race of thirty four this year. Joe More along with Barney Hall. Jim Phillips Winston Winston Kelly and Marty Schneider patrolling pit. Row Today Dan Hubbard and Jeff struggle covering the action forests in the turns joining Aniston a very competitive race so far fifteen. Lead changes is among ten different drivers. Today Jeff Burton last took the lead a lap. One forty eight stretched out his margin now to a full four seconds over Rusty Wallace Caution flags flown three times today. Once when Andy Houston and Scott PRUITT got together at turn four later on lap fifty one but Bobby Hamilton and Matt Kenseth crashed in turn number one pitch. Bickel had a problem with the tire. Cut Down turnover for that was on lap. One forty seven. There were two cars in the garage. Bobby Hamilton Kansas Kansas able to return. We're Some of the sheet metal missing on his car as it stands right now. It is Burton Rusty Wallace's second Ricky Rudd his third teeth park fourth. Tony Stewart V. Six's bobby the Bonnie Jimmy Spencer his seventh Eighth Dale earnhardt night. This Dale Jarrett and tenth. Is Jeremy Mayfield with a hundred fourteen laps to go coming up on eighty laps to go with Luke. Five hundred this afternoon rusty wallace could smell the win. Jeff Burton won the NASCAR Busch series race. Here yesterday it's make it two wins and two days and he's starting to close in on Rusty Wallace now just about four car lengths behind him. Ricky Rudd hangs onto thirty lost the second spot a couple of laps ago. Oh Steve Park has been trying to get by him but to no avail. Park hangs onto the fourth position completed the front five is Tony. Stewart taking you back through the top ten. Dale earnhardt his sixth seventh. This Jeff Gordon. Eight this body ninth is Jeremy Mayfield and tenth. Is Jimmy Spencer. We'll series point leader. Bobby the body seems to be working as plan Kelly Kelly. The plan seems to be working for him here today on a car that they debuted a few weeks ago. In New Hampshire finished second they also ran this card heartful and also Rockingham a couple of weeks ago when they had some problems. Jimmy make car the crew. Chief seems to be a very steady run. What's the car doing? Now Jimmy Not Too bad right right now. We're still tighten the center for trying. Afraid up I don't think we made enough of a chain drive here though to get the interstate. Batteries freed up right. Now come over. And it's strange long but We got during that restart got behind bars. Contract on the bottom three or four and Sit around and wait for them. Hard to give up we get back by some of those guys. Will they temperatures help you. Guys were quick yesterday when it was cold. I hope so. It's Kinda hard to know changes this morning. Many outdoor way. We'll see all the fuel. Can you know as far the crew chief on the car. They were one of the quickest happy hour yesterday afternoon in cold temperatures. They're gonNA come up about four or five bland short that's pretty consistent up and down pit road. There will be one more pitstop. We've got to change the lead coming off tournament four just as they exit of the corner. Jeff Burton dived underneath Rusty Wallace and he grabs lead is go back to one. Jeff Burton haze that lead to deterrence. Wanted to buy one car length and a half over Rusty Wallace. Ricky Rudd is under attack from Steve Park from the third spot. Jeff Burton says has just been driving snow tape and a turn number. Three took the air off a rusty Wallace last time by drove underneath on so he goes to second rookie rookie running and I bonded St Park Fork. Seventeen lead changes among ten drivers here as Jeff Burton comes down to the nine with top position just behind it now. Again Rusty Wallace Ricky Rudd falls in line and Third Steve Park was disclosed. Given now falls back off the rear deck of Rudd's car he was the park was looking at the inside lap after lap. Now he cannot make move on Ricky Rudd the solid third position top four cars separated by about the same distance as Burton gets back here with about three car lengths over Wallace about remorse back to back to state bar. Obviously this weather change inch has changed some of the handling characteristics on some of the cars that have been running up in the top ten. We thought that Tony Stewart restarted. After the yellow flag some laps back was GONNA come right up there and get in the mix of things. But Tony's lost some ground bleed. Marty Snider is in his pit. Mardy is the weather hurt them back and Forte for Tony two cars and a little bit. Hi It's been a little bit loose and seems like affecting them in the sun comes out. Tony gets a little bit better and the longer they run. Tony gets a little bit better so your I'm come to live here later. If we get a war with Brexit Pacelli talking to start your right now greg. He's GonNa call a lot of times. Tony Stewart Guy. Yeah I think our car was really Earlier whatever race track fire there. We're still tweaking on air. Frankly the need to free up a little bit better on the longer runs right. Yeah I'd like to see to Saint go green we're We're kind of breaking even willing to catch and most of them so I it will suit us best as long as very good again the longer runs and they too are about six laps short from being able to go all the way on. Fuel question is do you make a splash and go or do you try to change two tires. That's the question all the crew chief right now. Very hard decision to make to Tony. Stewart is fifth right now as we said but he has four and three ten seconds behind the lead to cars which are Jeff Burton and Rusty Wallace some good racing going on little further back in the field. Ricky Rudd still has hopes the staying up there in the top. Three three Steve Parks drop back just a little bit watching. Jeff Gordon. Try to hold off a charging. Bobby Labonte Right. Now Bobby's Tim over pretty good. The last couple of laps pick that one up in turn one on three cars have been flying information. We're talking about Dale Earnhardt. Jeff Gordon and Bobby Labonte Lanao Lavonia has ideas of taking a move on Jeff Gordon race to the dog legs. Kabila Vanni close again in a basket of Jeff Gordon looking at the inside but Gordon is there earnhardt right in front of them as they race off turn three. They had two four here. Come the Lakers. Now working working wealth the corner it is Jeff Burton show in the way ricky rudd holds onto the second spot. Now he nails that down coming up off the corner Rusty Wallace and third also look at back at the field. Good tips replace battles going on momentarily Jimmy Spencer there with Dale Jarrett. Trying to get by him. Jared tried several moves to complete the past. Not able to do it. He falls back in line in a single file. Also Dale Earnhardt with his hands. Full at least a few moments ago Jeff Burton was trying to get by him. That was the race for the six position. I think Dale Jarrett Dale Earnhardt. They're in the sixth spot. And Bobby Labonte now putting pressure on Jeff Gordon. That's the race for the seven. Th position at turned one bobby Labonte sets up the Pontiac or turn one took a brief look at the inside now back back in line. Jeff Gordon Still. Has that position both of those guys. Jeff Ford and bobbing in hot pursuit of Dale earnhardt. Neither one of them pulls enough to make any advances Ernie passes but they are using decisively. Different lines through three and four doesn't have anything to do with the weather and the Hanley going away. I guess we'll find out it's a race unfold. Like erodes gotten a little bit stronger. He takes second place place away from Rusty Wallace a couple of laps ago to move back up there. So the top five or Jeff Burton. Ricky Rudd Rusty Wallace Steve Park and Tony Stewart. Today's broadcast cast of Checker auto parts. Five brought by Remington five ninety seven reliable twenty two caliber rifle by festus breaks the official brakes car. Polaris proud manufacturers but by Liberty bestselling on TV in the world and by the wide track Grand Prix by Pontiac. Wider is better Kenny. SCHRADER got in trouble up in three and four a moment ago appeared to cut a right front tire almost brushed the wall and brought out the yellow flag and now pit road has all the front runners. Now the pit lane brought to you by McDonald's else drive through. Let's go down to western Kelly wherever three liters chipper ricky rudd and Steve Park in front of their crews. I one in this part. Because he's committed the furtherest Penn road all the guys working on the right side of the car. There's going to be any retire spots. All of them look like they're gonNA go around for the right side to the left side. They'll be a four tire. Stop for all the cars of the mid section of Ricky Rod beat out Jeff Berg yes it looks like Bel Rusty Wallace is in. He's down fourteen void void five on the stop with Wallace around of wedge out on his car he said leave it alone. I don't want to mess with it just about the way I wanted. Just a little bit tight giddy. Wallace's and Ed Ricky Craven is in getting four tires of jewel around a boarding Snyder. Tony Stewart came in fifth fifteen three on the stop for Tony Stewart. A little tight that took one pound out of the right front. They went up on the track bar. One round trying to loosen up Tony Stewart. Dale Earnhardt in six nice staff for the GM goodrich team. Jeff Gordon a little bit tight four tires and fuel for Jeff. Jeff Gordon but the quickest car and quickest pit crew to get him back on the speedway. It's going to be rusty wallace so he should be the leader. Ricky Rudd almost beat him out of the pits. Ricky's GONNA come out and second. Steve Park steamed themed the job for him getting back in third and restarting fourth should be Tony Stewart. And when they get the green flag back out here a couple of moments would be Jeff. Gordon well Rusty Wallace really has the advantage Jim Phillips being on the very end of the pit lane the very last stall couple of times it looked like ricky beat him out but Rusty getting good service and the positioning of their pitstop pays off for for them and another thing. Joe Is some of these tracks. It's got a curve in the pit lane is we've see like Martinsville in Rockingham. We've seen guys get blocked in. We've got that first pit stall. Aw No one's going to block you in paid off big time for Rusty Wallace several times this afternoon once again he hangs onto the top position. So it'll be rusty. Wallace Wallace won't go back onto the green flag with Ricky Rudd just behind him in Second Steve Park is third. Now Tony Stewart fourth. Jeff Gordon is fifth. Let's take you onto the field here in six Jeff Gordon Gordon. Jeff Burton his seventh eighth spot in the body. Ninth is Jeremy Mayfield and tenth. Is Dale Earnhardt. Dave Blaney having a good day. He's an eleventh Jimmy. Spencer is twelfth. Ward Burton is thirteenth. Eighteenth Terry Labonte Fourteenth and Mike. Skinner runs fifteenth. Sixteenth is Mark Martin Dale Jarrett Seventeenth Sterling Marlin Eighteenth. Nineteenth is Kenny Wallace in twentieth. Is Ricky Craven Kevin. The page shown at Twenty First Twenty second is Brett Bodine. WHO's the cars are on the lead lap one lap down at twenty-third Dale Earnhardt Jr. John Andretti has twenty-fourth and Kurt? Busch is in twenty a fifth now. Bill Elliott shown in twenty. Six Elliott. Sadler is twenty seventh. Mike Bliss twenty-eighth while twenty-ninth Robert Pressley his thirtieth Joe Nemechek thirty-first Ted Muskrat scrape thirty second thirty third. Is Jerry. Do Thirty Fourth Scott. pruitt Darrell Waltrip is thirty fifth. Andy Houston thirty-six rich bickel now shown in thirty seventh. He's followed by Ken and trader in Thirty Eight. Rick Mast Ryan Newman behind the wall along with Matt Kenseth and Bobby Hamilton. Let's go down the pits. We came in the leader that was Jeff. Burton came backout seventh. The Problem Jack Problem Jack broke on the right side of the car. So that's the reason that they lost some time on Jeff Burton's car and he doesn't have well. He has some laps left. Sixty one seems like a lot of laps left to get it done but with Jeff restarting back there in seventh place in the intensity this race has been run here all afternoon. Nobody's GonNa cut him any slack. He's going to have to really work to get back up there and have a shot to win it pace car coming off. The bank in turn number four double file restart quite a line of lap traffic now to the inside earnhardt. Jr. Here's the first car inside. The leader Rusty Wallace Green is in the air rusty as long on turn one rusty Wallace Leaves Anfield at a turn. One Ricky right offering second stays on mostly clear. Last bars are walking a little bit in third spot and rug is going to get a good run up off the bottom of turn number two. They'll go side by side and deter number. The three and ricky rudd goes by Rusty Wallace. Here comes EARNHARDT. They may be between himself and Walter. PETCO park patrols in Ricky Rudd leads for the first time this afternoon as he comes across the line he will become the eleventh different leader here. Today let's see how long he can keep the top spot spot fickle file and I wanted to rich won't park a breakaway from Tony. Stewart and four Ricky Rudd will head back to turn number three with the lead. He's got a car link over Rusty Wallace another car link back to St Park. Klay a broken away. Tony Stewart trying to get by the left part of Dale Earnhardt. Jr. Ricky Rudd spruyt pit crew has done the job for him all day long although he came out second this last around stops just a moment ago. He is doing the job in the car. He's grabs the lead tries to hold off Rusty Wallace doing a pretty good job of it right now turn to daylight himself. tain rusty Wallace has some good horsepower. Down that's right away. State Park still in the first position and Steve Park is closing. In on the back end of Rusty Wallace. He runs into third position but he closes this down through three closed down even more than four run. Three cars single filed or separated by about five car links. A lapped car the heart junior that you've got four fifth and sixth. That's that's a good battle. That by Tony Stewart at turn one short protecting his fourth position from Jeff Lord. Here come outside of that would be the total side-by-side side down the backstretch. It's a tough way to go around the outside. But Jeff Burton's GonNa try on Jeff Gordon Burton pinned up on the outside. He'll go by Jeff Gordon. Now he'll go by the lamp car of Mandy Houston so Jeff Burton charging through the field. Everybody running as hard as they can. House elapse wind down there. Be Fifty seven to go and all over here at Phoenix this afternoon. So if you're GONNA gain any positions nations now's the time to do it while you got a full tank fuel and fresh rubber on the car. The leaders over to continue to lean rusty wallace under attack from skiing park as he clambers right on the rear above the second-place machines. The park will look to the insider Rusty Wallace. He'll have nothing to do with that though hill. Slam the door on park the leaders race on four markings on the same car he ran at Martinsville built several weeks ago. Actually a couple of months ago and it is working well here at Phoenix. He's chasing Rusty Wallace for the second spot. The part will try the high side of time for germs. Wanted wanted to nothing to cut back alive. Still Wall and badly on for fourth is now Jeff. Burton has caught. Tony Stewart. Tony Stewart is there that comes Jeff Burton and Jeff. Gordon knows three cardinals detail. Tony Stewart trying to hold on Jeff for not trying to call back in also try to move up and be a factor in this thing at the finish. Is Jeremy Mayfield view. He'd been working on Bobby Nevada for the last three or four laps around finally gets around him as they work their way off. Turner before the C. P. can get around a couple of lap cars and get a little closer to the front. The first one would be the last car of Andy Houston Houston gets away from me. She'll little breathing room between himself. And Bobby Labonte Bobby. Labonte now is going to have to try to get by Huston then as they go through the Dogleg in Houston's GonNa move up the race track that'll open things up for bobby. Labonte as sensitive sites on Jeremy Mayfield. Bonnie rides along the eighth position has to clear some traffic before he could deal with Bayfield further. Back you've got Dale Earnhardt. Cutting his way through the traffic he's now shown back in ninth position. Got Some hard work to get fruit cars and turn one Dale Earnhardt to the inside outside of Joe Nemechek Dale earnhardt trying to chase the man that he's actually chasing in the point. That would be Bobby Labonte. Bobby Labonte still has his hands. Full with Andy. Houston they run side side-by-side back to three Dale earnhardt and Joe Nemechek side by side. They're hooked up in a big battle. Dale earnhardt would like to get up there. Get around Bobby in the body and at least gain a few you points on him to not lose any here at least gain a few with two races remaining after today. Two hundred sixty laps around the school board fifty two more circuits around Phoenix. And it'll all be over. Ricky Rudd leads Rusty Wallace Steve Park. Jeff Burton and Tony Stewart. Ricky Rod shows the way in the closing laps of the five hundred here this afternoon. Forty seven seven laps to go and ricky is now moved out to a seven tenths of a second lead over Rusty Wallace. Steve Park is third. Jeff Burton's fourth Tony Stewardess Fifth. Jeremy Mayfield has just just passed. Jeff Gordon he's now moved to the six position. Gordon falls back in line and seventh. Bobby Labonte his eighth Dave Blaney Great Day. His previous best finish was a twenty wanting offended. Lanta this year and David shown in ninth right now with Dale earnhardt behind him at tents. Go down the pits and get it up on what's going on there. Let's talk crew. Chief grabbed off if he's going down to talk to us right now. He's given times out his driver. Doug you told me before. The race expected a top ten today up there right now. Yeah we sure are. We fought the scar Gar all day. But we've seen to get to set upright plans to run his team's common around. We're struggling and fighting. We're going to be weather's been edited Sir out today. It's really affecting our car. We were on as soon as the sun went in. We got tight and we had to work all that way. Justin lasted pretty good now. The Sun's come back out so we'll see what happens now a few laps to go all the fuel and all. That's out of the equation today. So they're looking for a top. Jan Ron. Today got got a good solid race team. That's no doubt about that right now. Pretty good scramble on the racetrack going on between Ward Burton and Dale Jarrett as they work their way back off into the corner here that would be defoe. Twelve positioned as they hit over. Dave work their way back around the race. Track here that battle. Kind of settles down back in single file off turnover. Four Ricky Rudd's margin now has grown to eight tenths of a second over Rusty Wallace Western. Kellyanne looks like ricky getting stronger and stronger the closing laps. That's what he's been saying the whole day long that the longer they go the better off they get if we can come up here and get a quick comment from Mike. McLean Croce Mike. You guys seem to be better on long runs onto a house band. Yeah we've been real long runs all day so pretty happy to have been able to hold the lead right now. So it's about five or ten laps. Use it when we takeover and really do good so if it happens again how about the handling characteristics on the car now about now ricky's not saying much strivings but L.. Not Saying a whole lot. That's always good news looking for their first win since Michigan. The second rice in August of Nineteen ninety-seven. It'd be very a popular win if he can pull it off here this afternoon. There's no question about that right now. We're getting out of forty two laps. Remaining Ricky Rudd brings off tournament four and back into the straightaway. Rusty Wallace still still has a very much insight. restes only about six tenths of a second back. He's over in turn to your right Horny. Rusty does how inside but not close enough to make a pass. It looks like a Straw. The man on the move is Jeff Burton. He is closing by very small increments but he is closing from the fourth position. Another guy in the move. Is Jeremy Mayfield as he works. The inside side of Tony Stewart. He'll bypass Tony Stewart. Pickup position as they race into turnover. Three Hayfield is flat. Putting on the charge swept down to the inside of Tony Stewart picked up the fifth position. Now let's see. Is Stuart False back in line. Jeff Gordon behind him and that bobby the body can they do anything with Stewart. Going off to turn one mayfield. SEWARD and Jeff Gordon Bobby Labonte those four cars nose to tail Mayfield. Just a bit of an advantage over Stewart. Who's under attack now? Forty through the Dogleg Mayfield. When by Tony Stewart one lap ago in that lab he a stretch an advantage to some five parlay x now? Jeff Gordon Tony Stewart under attack. Tony Stewart Jeff Gordon and Bobby Labonte that trio works off turn four back down to the start finish line and once Jeremy Mayfield got by Tony Stewart. He starting to pull away but again. He's a long way behind Ricky Rudd. Here's a race for a second now. Working off turnover to Steve Park is closing Seattle Rusty. They're gonNA hit. The dogleg. Rusty Wallace has got the advantage. But Steve Park is there and look into pound Rusty Wallace sliding the banking state park. We'll get a look underneath. Good solid racecar underneath him all day. Long for Steve Park. He had thoughts of making a move on rusty to go all the way to the apron of the racetrack to pull it off rusty pence team just a little bit holds him off they go back to one. Rusty St Wallace takes a late entrance into wind of walk. The efforts of Steve Park Wallis washes up a little bit on the exit of turn to Steve Park not able to take advantage. Wallace was on the outside outside of the race. Track through the Dogleg one lamp going and opened up. Thanks for Steve Park. It's going to be the same thing. This time is wallace moves up the racetrack. Just a little bit not enough for far and ricky rudd is loving this because it allows him to pull away. Even Moore's they fight for second and third the advantage now one fool second for Ricky Rudd as the race continues for second and third two-car fight now going to the three car fight as Jeff. Burton joins the Party's here knows the tale of two. So it's Wallison. Second Steve Parkin third in a very close Jeff Burton for four Jeff Burton right now. Closing in. He runs for Steve Park Third Rusty Wallace holding down that second spot but again rusty washes up. The racetrack opened the door for park. But he's not close enough to stay in. Their case. Rusty does make a slip. He wants to be in a position to take advantage of a little further back. Jeff Gordon Tony Stewart and Bobby. The body almost getting three wide coming through three and four as jeff of moves around both of them the takeover to six place and heads for turn one now bobby. Labonte passes his teammate with the seventh position. Now it'd be Tony Stewart. Stewart moved on from Bobby Labonte as clear sights on Jeff Gordon. Jeff Gordon to through the Dogleg then comes Bobby Labonte and Tony Stewart. All three of these are separated by about four car. Lengths Jeff Gordon holding onto that advantage freely freely battle from six lawn back again Gordon and bobby the Bonnie followed by Tony Stewart. And what we're talking about Dave Blaney. He started close to make that a foursome as he comes down to the line about seven eight car lengths behind this three way battle from six on back still Gordon just by car linked in front of Bobby Labonte then Tony Stewart. Blaine is going to have his work. Cut Out for me. Still about seven Kevin Carlin bumper obscure and working turn number three one St Wallace still moving at race tracks. Steve Park. This time may have up. Can't quite do it. Rusty shuts him down again. Steve Stays in the frontal. GonNa make him really haul off into the corner very fast. Can he keep the car down versus Chevrolet for the second spot. No Wallace washes way up the racetrack. Keep it off the marbles. Give the second spot Steve Park. Who takes advantage down to the bottom of the racetrack? T- park now beginning to pull away and here comes Jeff Burton. He knows where the disadvantage rusty rusty wallace says is rusty goals. High here comes Jeff. Burton Burton trying to make the move down to the inside of Rusty Wallace Wallace again slips up the race. Track the racist on side-by-side I saw it for third as Ricky Rudd leads over Steve Park Rusty Wallace Jeff Burton battling for third bag at the Phoenix International raceway two hundred eighty eighty four laps in the record book. Twenty eight to go ricky Rudd's advantage just a second and a half but everybody's still trying to really in twenty eight laps will seem like an eternity for ricky not rudd and Ricky is. He comes through three and four is not that far behind from catching the tail end of the field. And there's a about five six seven cars riding along there. There's going to have to thread his his way through and if he gets hung up in traffic is going to allow second-place Steve Parkin Jeff Burton to make up some ground on him. They go over to turn to. And it's GonNa be battled four seconds between in Steve Park and Jeff Burton Burton has been closing on the rear end of the Bark Chevrolet curtain than just carrying that car deep. Is Anybody all afternoon. Deter number. Three Steve Park gets there but every time he does. Jeff Burton cuts the advantage Burton to slam the quarter. What's the interest turnover three chops down the distance between himself and second-place Steve Park comes comes across the line baby to Karlic separate second and third positions while they raised into turn one? I believe they are slowly really run as root bobbled just a little bit the exit of turn to he still has eight car lynch over the second spot of Steve Parr as park has five Carlin advantage over Jeff Burton but again we'll watch him into turned over three park on the brakes well before for Jeff Burton and Burton cuts the advantage down to one Jeff Burton just stays there close enough to make a move if Steve Parks car should falter just a little bit. Why don't we get a report? Out of Steve Parks Expediently Winston Kelly as their paddock. Good Day all day long if we can get a thought from Karachi Carl Andrews on the box. You car's been good all day long long. You've got enough to Rio Ricky Rudd in we're relevant Reagan behind Carson awesome awesome. How about the changing weather conditions that they helped your heart and really? So it's been it's been really good. We played obviously Kedah thanks. They've got a little bit for Ricky Rod but also worried about Jeff Burton behind him. Steve Park and Jeff Burton have cut a little separation between themselves. And Ricky Rudd Right now to go rickie head of second and a half lead on them down to one point two seconds right now as they work their way back down into turnover. One big pack traffic. I talked about the leader. Catching getting closer and closer closer. I'll tell you barney ricky rudd not able to keep that heavily for down the bottom anymore. Not like he was doing laps ago and he's going to have lap traffic in front of him in about two or three laugh. This is going to get an interesting in a hurry. Then right behind them comes the battle between teammates as maybe goes to the insider Rusty Wallace. That's the position right now. Wallace goes up the race. Track and Mayfield goes by picks off the fourth position just ahead of them Steve Park and Jeff Burton to battle. They'll go at it. Side by side momentarily Steve Park wins that particular battle. Jeff Burton false falls back in line as they continue closing. Ricky Rudd. Try that outside. Line on Steve Park that would be the fight for second. They're still nose to tail through the Dogleg at Jeff Burton closer this this laughing. He has been in the last several and he will look the outside. Is Park Slams. The DOOR JEFF BURTON GONNA try the high sign on part now. Ricky's going to have a little bit of a problem to talking about the fact that his car would not stick at the bottom of the racetrack. Well let's pick up scramble for second right now Jeff Burton's making a run for it and turn one Jeff heartaches car download inside Chevrolet of Skiing Park. Mark has the back out of the throttle. Wealthy found the marbles in a hurry now jumps back on the gas. They're still side by side for second. Second place being contested side-by-side Jeff Burton phya bumper now. He bypasses parks move. Jeff Burton the second part gets a second spot. But he's a full second behind ricky rudd but Ricky Rudd's got traffic to deal with these closing lows again. I heavy pack a traffic first car. He'll approaches Kevin the pages he races in turn travel page makes the hand signal. move out of the way. Ricky Rudd dive down to the bottom of the racetrack. Taylor has not handling page exiting off of turn two well he may have given them the hand signal button been unable to get by on now. He'll clear them to the dogleg right in front of them. The WALTRIP run side-by-side so heavy traffic for Ricky Rod Kevin. The page was the last car on the lead lap and now he goes a lap down freaky works his way off. Turnover four and back into the straight away. Let's go to pit road. Let's see what Jeff Crews Marty cut by. The mark's Got Ricky Rodriguez violence as his PUCCI. Breaks daughtry by break they got it up by Ricky Rudd twenty-eighth an awful good all day long. Looks like it might be some smoke. Cautious and Ricky Rudd is locked locked up right in the middle of that over and turn three and Ricky Rudd has been collected. There no question about it. He may have hit the car of Mike. Bliss Bliss Fun he made contact with rick mast asked in Ricky Rudd Card now erupts into flame as he heads down towards pit lane. Lot of flame out from under Ricky's car. It goes out as he gets on pit road. What a tough break for Ricky Rudd again? Dan looked like Mike. Bliss bounced out in the middle of the race. Track over there. Couple of cars didn't see it until the last minute and a big collision and it collected about three or four machines. Let's go back to turn earn three well. All of this happened off. Turn number two as they got to. The trial will several of those lab cars that we were talking about the Ricky Rudd would have to negotiate got together got crossed up rick mast one of them involved. Mike Bliss one of them involved he is crumpled down here and turn number three but ricky rudd all over the brakes unable to avoid them collects them in the right front torn up on the twenty eighth Dan Hubbard. Looks like maybe that started in front of you at turns one and two. I glanced out there. It's all rick mast going way up and he'd nearly tagged the wall there and it was that he was having problems. alums just trying to keep it down to the bottom got on the marlins but then stood back on the gas. He did not want to give up a position. They exited the corner three wide at turn to and then it was just a jumble right at the Dogleg which is in the center of the backstretch. Everybody diving out of pit road right now as a leader come down Jeff. Burton is in Steve. Park is in Jeremy Mayfield's on pit road rusty Wallace's in so as Jeff Gordon go down to western Kelly snake. Bit Not a strong enough word for Ricky Rudd The pinball team to work on the right side. Let's say many to tires. I thought looks like it's going to be a two tire. Stop for the steam par team yesterday at seven point. Eight eight seconds to tire for Jeff Burton as well helping him out now. Bella Ella ties for Rusty Wallace is going to be two tires for Dave Blaney. Glad he's GonNa lose positions but he got out ahead of Tony Stewart. Also let's get the cars and fraught off all Party Snyder to tires for Jeff. Gordon too tired I Tony Stewart. But when he left he almost hit Brett Bodine's car so he had to slow down. Then had to go against a Tony Stewart lost a lot of time corrode man how quick the fortunes can change in Winston Cup racing at lap. Two hundred ninety five right now seventeen laps to go. And we're under caution here at Phoenix back at Phoenix International Raceway. It is getting interesting fifteen laps to go as we worked. The caution flag should be getting the one to go another lap or to cleanup continuing on the racetrack. Here's the situation and Ricky Rudd was leading the race had led for forty laps. Got Caught up in a crash on the back straightaway between the cars of Rick Mast and Mike Bliss Bliss has been taken to the garage. Rick Mast back there as well as checking in with Marty. Schneider what happened. Well we were going in. Turn one and we're kind of tired and then going into one coming off too and I was trying to keep the thing hang out everybody's weighing go through the backstretch so that trial will deal. Couldn't get it to turn their you know and going slow and cars going by bombing size and I guess when they were splitting The car splitting letting by me that it opened up and I think twenty seven car I was there you know what I mean. He hit me a hundred miles an hour faster and I was going you know and I think I took out the twenty eight and all that same happened. I'm I'm just glad I heard what he hit me hard but that was the second tower we cut down day just one day. You know we. We thought we came to Phoenix with high hopes. We tested at homestead. It looked pretty pretty good out here. take two more racist left here and we'll try to get them in homestead or Atlanta. I wreck mass done for the day Rick. Mass car got tagged from behind I by Mike. Bliss and Mike's car shot across the racetrack and Rick. Ricky Rudd had just committed himself at that lane would be open while all the colliding was going on in the middle of the speedway and all of a sudden bliss his car or came right across in front of him. What a tough break form? Let's check down on his pit real quick. Look at a report there in just a moment while. Mr In radio brings you. Complete coverage of the NASCAR Winston Cup series. But we don't stop there. We follow the series almost every week. So now why not take the time and call or write the radio station. You're listening to and thank them for airing. Mr In radio broadcast ask because listener response is the only way radio station can determine what programs to broadcast to let you know what station you're listening to. We'll pause ten seconds for station identification on Mr in radio the voice of Nascar. Two Thousand Mark Martin is the race later. We told you beat everybody up off the pit road but Winston Kelly. He didn't really stop Yup. Well he did not stop there running fifteenth at the time and figure they had nothing to lose Jimi Phoenix talking to his driver. Mark Martin on the radio about some oil that they see down the race track on the back straightaway trying to talk to the NASCAR officials in the pudding moral try down now whether or not necessarily they're trying to lengthen this thing don't actually know but Jimmy Jimmy paying off a busy now but they figured they had nothing to lose. They wouldn't lose any more positions than they had since they were running. Fifteen when the caution came out so mark right now at the head of the field two hundred hundred ninety nine laps have been completed. Thirteen remained twelve when they come back around. Mark is a leader Rusty Wallace's second Jeff. Burton is third. Steve Park would be fourth. Jeremy Hear Me Mayfield V. Six would be Jeff Gordon. Seventh is Bobby Nevada Dave Blaney. He's had a great day here. Dave's in eighth position. Tony Stewart is ninth and Dale Earnhardt. Make up our top Tin. Have twenty-one cars on the lead lap last of those is Brett Bodine who was having even a better day than that Marty Schneider. He got tied up on pit road trying to get into his box. Well that's exactly what what happened. Actually Tony Stewart was coming out of his pit box. When Brett Bodine was coming into his pit box? Both of them had to come to a complete stop. That's what Tony Stewart fell from six to nine. And and that's one of the reasons. Breitbart Diana's fallen so far back in the field as well feel given indication one more lap. We'll go back to green flag racing and they will take the green with eleven laps. Remaining here at Phoenix Phoenix. This afternoon. This was still pretty much up in the air. I'd say it's more up in the air. Now that it has been all day were getting out of the closing laps and suddenly some of the guys who weren't in that good shape in the early going. This afternoon have had time to adjust and get their cars right for the race track. You know some of the the the biggest contenders for the win here started way back in the pack back in the pack and again they've worked their way up to the front guys like Tony Stewart. WHO started back in thirty seventh position? Other guys like Jeff Gordon and Jeremy Mayfield. who found himself a lap down after running Out of fuel back before the halfway mark all of a sudden these guys are contenders. Here in the closing laps of this race is look at the guys on the lead lap. Right now. It is Mark Martin leading again with twelve laps to go mark Martin Rusty Wallace Jeff. Burton Steve Parkin Jeff Gordon. That's the top five sixes Jeremy. Mayfield seventh bobby. The body eighth is Dave Blaney Ninth. Is Tony Stewart and and tenth. Dale earnhardt Eleven Mike. Skinner twelve is Dale Jarrett Thirteenth Ward Burton Fourteenth Jimmy Spencer Fifteenth Sterling Marlin Sixteenth Stereo Body. Johnny Vincent Seventeenth Nineteenth Ricky Craven Eighteenth. Kenny Wallace Nineteenth Kevin Lepage Twentieth and twenty. First Brett. Bodine those the cars on the lead lap pace car behind the pit wall looking for the green flag with with eleven laps to go. It is in the air mark. Martin comes up through the gearbox takes off to get away from rusty wallace rusty hangs with him and turn one art. Mark did not shake Rusty Wallace right on the rear. In Britain the fourth they try to clear the lab. Traffic down the backstretch Martin's GonNa lead has got about a car like advantage over Rusty Wallace. Sun Income's Jeff Burton Steve Park trying to get by the outside of Bill Elliott. He'll do that here. Comes Jeff Gordon. Everybody bunched up behind Martin. Jeff Burton from the third position looking to the outside of Rusty Wallace. It crosses over now to the inside challenges for the second spot. Here's Burton pulling down the inside of Rusty Wallace. Let's see if he can pass him and turn one. They'll be wheel the wheel in the third one. Can I download Rusty Wallace. Wallace has the second spot checks. I cannot get the run on through the dog. Layer and mark. Martin is able to pull away because of that side-by-side side-by-side battle between Wallace Burton. It's now single file and Wallace's able to close back in give Jeff Burton all the credit in the world. Oh man he's done everything he could. He hung with rusty as long as he could when they went off. Turnover to rusty just out pulled him a little bit as he hit the straightaways he still. They're trying to get around a shot to win that go back to Jack. Burke swings way out wide through turns one wind the look to the outside nothing here now he crosses over again down the backstretch their single file from I and not anymore though Jeff Burton took a look. Now he's GonNa fall back in in line single file now. He'll swing wide on rusty wallace. The battle is on per second here. They come back in a turnover. Four with Jeff Burton looking to the inside of Rusty Wallace that last time through turns three reinforced. Tony Stewart had a problem. Punted from nights backed up fourteenth. He struggled to get back in line. second-place battle intern one candidate Bert and work on my side. This time it's thick except a little bit better and the drag races on once again for the second spot wheel the wheel door-to-door Jeff Burton on the outside Rusty Wallace on the inside gifts. Second spot to Jeff Burton in he knows sets his sights on race leader. Mark Martin any hang onto it. He made the move the hard way he went around the outside to get it by rusty to take over the number two spot now. The factor becomes times times seven laps to go can catch Mark Martin and then get around there back in two candy catch Mark Martin and we'll Mark Martin Jeff Burton Martin has only at Harlington and a half ethic vantage charging. Jeff Burton here comes Jeff. Burton is a hit the back straightaway the advantages about four car lengths. Make it to make it one. Here comes Jeff. Burton Mark Martin trying to hold on teammates trying to battle out for the win here this afternoon. Sixty go when they come down to the line. It is Mark Martin leading by three car lengths over teammate. Jeff Burton then Rusty Wallace. Jeremy Mayfield real racing to turn one single file into turn of overt skate up just a little bit now. Looks Games right. A Martin helping during their battle is on for feeling Wallace Mayfield. They feel looking to the inside. Wallace's up top trying to get a fender underneath. He'll do it mayfield comes. The Second Burton goes to the outside of Mark. Martin two sets teammates running in the first four positions positions mark. Martin works his way off Turner before Jeff Burton his teammate tried to get underneath him. Couldn't do it back in Third Place Journey Mayfield. Hangs onto that as they go back to turn to part looked the inside of Martin Martin Brock Wrestle now Burton goes to the outside the front end. Ford's lies just a little bit. The families on for the lead through the Dog Ledge Jeff Burton has has been strong on the outside of the race track all afternoon long hill. Make the past Dick. He goes by Mark Martin. Jeff Burton to the lead here comes Jeff Burton now taking the lead with Ford award ago when they come down and he begins to pull away from teammate. Mark Martin and Mark Martin starts falling into the clutches of Chevy Mayfield. Bayfield dive down to the bottom. He wants to get at this past cut early not to let burn away too far Mayfield. Take second spot away from Mark Martin. Jeff Burton Jeremy Mayfield goes by Mark Martin. Martin back to third then comes rusty wallace forth. All of these cars single file with the exception of Bobby Labonte and Jeff Gordon. Their door to door Mark Martin held onto the lead for about seven or eight laps. He has lost now and he's fallen back to third. Meanwhile Jeff Burton pools way out front right now as Mark Martin about to lose third place in turn one more late third place to Rusty Wallace. Well as Steve Martin side of rusty battling for third door to door steve parked on me inside Rusty Wallace pinned up top park. GonNa try to make the past Dick Downturn turn number three tries to get offender up alongside. He'll do that. They're side by side his. I'm sorry here's Jeff Burton. Though leading the way off turnover four coming down the line two laps to go. Oh he has a full one. Second lead over chair Mayfield. Burton has the lead. But May feel is coming. Jeremy Mayfield Dry Warner deeper than anybody. Right now. State Park washing the way up high for the first month Rusty Wallace tries to take advantage of the best battle on the race track elites for the moment rusty Wallace. Trying to get third place. Back from Steve Park. He'll try to they get a fender up alongside of washes up. The racetrack and Wallace will come to the INCI. Jeff Burton comes down looks for the white flag one lap to go sees it heads off to turn over one Michael Tournament or four Scott Pruitt slams the outside wall. Let's pick up the leaders off. Turn two time off occurred to its Jeff Burton by five Alex over Jeremy Mayfield. They're still side by side for Thursday. Here Jeff Burton all by himself. He'll get to turn number. Three's got seven car links on Jeremy Mayfield Burton heading to the checkered blackheart involved. In the crash out of harm's way here comes the race lead and down for the wind and is Jeff Burton scoring the win two in a row yesterday in the Busch series today in the Winston Cup series behind him in second spot Jeremy Mayfield. Steve Park is third rusty. Wallace fourth and fifth is the body. It was indeed Jeff Burton's weekend this this weekend in the Arizona Desert as he takes over the top spot late in the race at comes to score the win here in the loop. Five hundred great run by Jeremy Mayfield up and down all day losing a lap coming back to finish the second spot. Steve Park strong all afternoon Rusty Wallace and Bobby Bonnie but I guess the tough luck award goes to ricky. He Rudd for the problems he had. Let's go to road. Well Jack Rouse quite a weekend for Jeff Burton Jeff Burton is a man on these flat tracks. Frankie colonize race You know the race had had its ups and downs. I came through. It's wonderful to gamble by mark. Pretty darn good considering market not been good enough to pass cars. But he felt he'd be pretty good out front so Look like he might hang on even better than he did. But that was by far the best choice they had and the one eight car owner Jack Rowell's Hits Victory Lane with Jeff Burton and we'll be going down there and it also visit with some of the other top finishers in a minute. Jeff Burton came to Phoenix Arizona determined to win and when he did two days in a row. Winning the Nascar Busch series running owning of the outback steakhouse two hundred yesterday and following up in seminar fashion winning today in the Checker Auto Parts Dura Lube five hundred Burton scores. The wind is fourth of the year. Over Jeremy Irby Mayfield. Steve Park Rusty Wallace and bobby the body victory in just a moment first. Let's hear from the runner-up Jeremy Mayfield. In the same car that it dominated at Rockingham before having problems problems there Jeremy Mayfield. I guess the best place to start is when you ran out of fuel that seem to put you behind. Did you have any warning that it was going to run out as congratulations from Rusty Wallace. Any idea it was going to run out no not at all man. We thought we had plenty plenty of time to come down pit road. And that's how that's that's win. Run out and it didn't give no warning all the way out and then you know that costs a lot of time we gotta let down but Shows how strong this moment went forward. Dan toler says you know. I mean it's awesome awesome. It's just real real proud of these guys into shot on a great job and maybe we got that monkey off about now. I tell you what you had to battle back. Tell us about coming back through the field. It's tough transition with everything and Once you get a five down harder to fight your way back up there and I kept going Dagan and strong rice. They mirror proud the ought to be proud of them. They came home second after going wearing a lap down early Steve Park had a great run. Today let's hear from him and a nice run for Steve Park. The car was very good at the end. Especially but it wasn't quite as good on that last run. It was headed headed for two tires. Because we knew everybody else would and it was the right thing to do. We just we just couldn't get those pennzoil Chevrolet exactly where we needed it. WE JUST HAD TO DO A. We had a lot of driving out there in order to get it to To finish in the top five. We're happy with that. I think we're the highest finishing Chevrolet and we had a good race today so I'm real happy I wanNA thank the engine guys. This thing turned ton. RPM's RPM's all day long and held together so great race team great race car. Great engines and goodyear brought off a fantastic tire so We're just real thankful. Seems like you are very very effective very little by the cloud or the Sun now our car pretty much stayed the same we adjusted towards it and we knew how to make it worse but didn't know how to make it any better so we went back to the way it was the best and just stuck with that and just moved around some air pressures. They've been consistently eight top tens in the last twelve races. Steve Park comes third Rusty Wallace startling. The Bud Pole here this afternoon led five different times. Look to be the man for a while. He has to settle for a fourth place. Finish Winston Kelly with him. Well a lot of people that would be happy to be disappointed. Wanted with fourth place run. He gained a lot of points today. And you were just telling us where the car was off just a little bit at the end. Yeah it was a good car all day long. We let a lot of laughs. But we're solid top three top four four-car throughout the day. But I just need a more your spring. I probably had a little bit too soft. A right rear your spring and I kept taking wedge trying to make a turn better but it may turn Veterans Center. Make it loose off so you fix one problem script but it was a good day for us in points. Good Salad Run for two thunderbird real proud of all the gas and you got some good battles air with you teammate. And also with Steve Park. Yeah Jeremy Really strong throughout the day I mean he come from a from way back to the front way back to the front and handle battle Steve there but I really thought it would tend go and right side tires I gotta tell them off man for me and he started from the Bud Pole and came home four game points today. Rusty Wallace pleased with his run at another gentleman. Who gained a few points? Bobby the body. Let's hear from him. And there's a big smile on Mr Labontes face and seeing the clouds and the sun were just killing you in the cloud. You know you handle one way and the sun you handle another way and it never seemed to really hit it today now it's You know it was really good all day just a little bit of pushing it at times and Lulus Times seem like the guys that really good. They didn't have that problem. So you know just really excited that we finished in the top five is a good run for us and you know we you know didn't even get a scratch on the car so that's really good so we'll have something to take the homestead next week and Race really good down there. Hope that lasts caution. Seem to help you because you've got around a lot of cars on that last little run. Yeah got around. Jeff and mark. Mark didn't have tires on and when they I almost opted to they want we stay out. Mark did but You know I was afraid if we got going green and you know you know might might might give up a little too much but still I think is a great call to tires and You know past couple of cars and finish the top five. We really didn't have a top-five far up until then starting to feel a little better. I feel good beforehand about the championship. We're talking about the smile getting a little bigger for Bobby Labonte. He Finishes Fifth Aired Phoenix. Jeff Burton finished fourth in this race last year for the year before that and comes back this year and wins again winning on Saturday and today as well on the checker auto parts Dura Lube five hundred. Let's go to victory lane well. Jeff Burton it looked to me like most of the day you had the best car. You just couldn't get in position. was that the case. Well we did we. We did lose track position every now and then we Roca Jack into pits. And then we had a lug nut hung up one time. We just didn't have a good day in a ps not. We don't have good guys just because it didn't work out for us but I thought us in the car with a fast cars for sure just a good day for us you know it feels really good to get sick. Go Super Guard in Victory Lane Bill Ricky Rudd He. He looked like he was in good shape. Okay we were going to catch him. Catching him doesn't mean you're gonNA pass him and Ricky's all obviously the great race car driving. He's winds are coming again. I mean he's showing everybody you know you can do it. No doubt about that so you felt like even without caution caution there that you were catching ricky rudd enough to get to it. Well we were GONNA get doing. I'm not saying we were going to pass him. You know passing catching Ricky Rudd and passing him different things we certainly certainly. We're GONNA get a little bit faster but that doesn't mean we're going to win. He was he was in great shape and Best cars for the majority of the day finished first and second of Obama Jeremy for me to get a lap down and made it out came back finish second so that's two weeks in a row. He not run really great and had things happen to us at both hurt us. In this time we overcame put on to tires on that last. Stop any thought about putting four none at all. We saw Jeremy put onto early in the race and he really went fast on them. We put two and went really fast on ours. There's no question when we needed to do. Frank made a great call. He wanted to put onto early in the race and he put onto and I didn't want that but come to find out. That was the right thing to do at taught us what we needed to do for the rest of the rice. Going to another track. Similar to this Optimistic well we are optimistic. If you look at the last four months you know how many last week led and how we're running in the front we're real proud of that. We've we struggled it in the middle part of the year but we overcome that and running better now than we've ever run so I'm real proud of my guys are not getting their head down and we spend the worked really hard to last. I'm real tired that right right now. We've we've tested a lot. We've worked really hard. This has been a team effort. Oliver Engineer Support. Everybody has worked to get us back in line. And I'm real proud of the team effort. We've Vin- Do Jeff Burton completes a sweep your at Phoenix. Winning whom I try and see if we can get a word with ricky rudd a little bit later if possible in. We'll take a short break and we'll be right back back at Phoenix International Raceway were Jeff. Burton has won the Checker auto parts. Dear loop five hundred time for me to select. The winner of the rest of the race award will award five hundred dollars to the motor racing outreach children's ministries from Rebecca's breaks in an driver who received the best break. I I think Jeremy Mayfield. Jeremy got a lap down a little but earlier and his team worked to get him back and of course he did the job on the race track and if you can do that overcome a lap down and finished second here and have a good shot at winning. That's about as good a break as you're going to get so we're giving the award to Jeremy Mayfield. Right best breaks the official breaks of NASCAR awarding five hundred dollars in the name of Jeremy to the motor racing outreach children's ministries. We said we'd try to get award with Ricky Rudd. Yeah I think Western Kelly has been in that area Winston any possibility of getting that done absolutely ricky just walked out of the Holler. I guess the place we gotTa Start First is did you see how did you say it unfold in front correct. Well it's one of those things. I saw rick mass like I had a flat tire and he was trying to get control of his car. Looked like he had control of it and I'm not sure exactly whose fall now. You say blame late anywhere but We saw the cabinet. We saw the flat tire. Really wasn't Iraq. It was just add. Avoid a slow car and I guess twenty seven didn't see it and run right square in the back of them. The W- caught all the all. The reprecussions of that wreckage landed right in my face. Basically I look at a nice clear lane. No reason hit the panic button and all of a sudden L. broke loose. How about your car? We talked the Michael explaining. He said it was better on longer runs. They seem to be catching. You just ever so slightly there at the point when the wreck occurred well really we. I was racing at margin. gave me the time split that in could squeeze a little out of it when I needed to and but the trouble is you're playing tag without welcome and I'll turn to one of those deals that I looked really well. I ended up doing it. I guess reckon anyway leading the race but we look Kinda stupid. Take a myself out by banging the wall so I could squeeze a little at one on. Am and we kept keeping a little margin about the same. And I wouldn't say could be a cakewalk Gideon. Dan But I felt like I could hold them off Keep that margin the same as it turns out. It didn't didn't make any difference or you're good on flat tracks. Maybe that monk you'll get removed next week at my. I hope so. I've I've never seen that day. But it's it's good to be run up from Layton races. I guess if you got a wreck and go out and went on to Blazek glory leading the race. I guess it's better than being in the middle of the pack. Relax it took a correct. Keep his top five. String to be broken. Ricky Rudd still able to manage a smile after a wreck. It took him out while leading the race day. What if you keep running like Ricky's team has all year is uh-huh as we've said before the law of gravity? If nothing else is going to give you a win so ricky came so close again today but not to be. Let's take a look at the rundown Jeff Burton will win Jeremy Mayfield finishes. She's second. Steve Park Ran. Third Rusty Wallace finished fourth. Bob and a body was fifth. Mark Martin posted a sixth place. Finish Jeff Gordon came home seven. Dave Blaney had a great day. Dave comes up with an eighth place lace run. Dale earnhardt finished night. Didn't gain any points on bobby. Labonte lost about fifteen. The official standings will be out. Tomorrow They Will Jarrett finished tenth Mike. Skinner was eleventh ward. Burton was twelve Jimmy Spencer finished thirteenth. Tony Stewart Fourteenth Sterling Marlin ran fifteenth. Here today Johnny Benson was sixteenth. Terry Labonte was seventeenth. Ricky Craven Eighteenth with Kenny Wallace finished nineteenth. Bodine was twentieth. twenty-first went to Kevin Lepage twenty-second to Wally twenty-third Jerry Naidoo twenty-fourth Joe Nemechek and twenty-fifth fifth to Ted Musgrave finishing twenty six today was bill. Elliott twenty-seventh Dale Earnhardt. Jr. John Andretti was twenty. Eight twenty nine th was Kurt. Busch thirtieth was Elliott Sadler. Robert Pressley came in and thirty first. thirty-second was Michael Waltrip. Thirty Third Darrell Waltrip. Thirty fourth with Scott pruitt rich pickles. Thirty Fifth Andy. Houston comes thirty. Six thirty seventh. Is Ricky Rudd Thirty Eighth Mike Bliss List Thirty Ninth Rick Mast Fortieth Ken schrader forty. I Ryan Newman forty. Second was Matt. Kenseth and Bobby Hamilton finished forty third twenty two lead changes today among twelve different for drivers a very competitive race. Caution flags flew six times throughout the course of today's rice. twenty-one cars finished on the lead lap and again we were under the caution flag six times today very clean race in a very competitive race about what you always see her at Phoenix. It was pretty good pretty good race all all day. Not only was some good battles for the lead but there were some good racing back in the pack all the way back through about the top twenty and as we said a moment ago what twenty one cars finishing on the lead lap. But you just have to really feel for Ricky Rudd. Sooner or later it's got to happen. He's gotta get that win. Hopefully so we move on from here to the homestead Miami speedway next weekend for our coverage of pennzoil four hundred broadcast coverage starts on Friday afternoon with the bud pole qualifying two ooh. PM Eastern time on Saturday. The Miami three hundred final race of the year for the Nascar Busch series in Marin Radio Airtime is twelve forty five eastern on Sunday a week from today the pennzoil oil four hundred by discount auto parts on the other side of the country will be there with live coverage and of course they still have tickets available. Call the speedway ticket office and join us for a great weekend in South South Florida throughout the course of this week be listening for Nascar today. Daily News and information on NASCAR RACING NASCAR live on Tuesday at seven PM Eastern time. Eli Gold talks to the stars of NASCAR car racing and the world of racing commentary from Nascar drivers on the issues of the day.

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How Many Trailers Is Too Many Before A Movie? - Movie Talk

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How Many Trailers Is Too Many Before A Movie? - Movie Talk

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How many trailers is too many trailers before seeing a movie here is where this topic comes from a poll conducted by morning concert in the Hollywood reporter shows that nearly sixty percent of theater patrons would prefer fewer trailers to play in front of a feature film fifty nine percent said that one two three trailers were preferable twenty-one percent prefers four to six chains like AMC regal and cinemark average between five and eight previews before rolling the feature presentation so first off? Where do you guys personally stand on this. How many trailers do you liked to watch before you see a movie. I varies but I also love of the Times that I'll get invited like and I'm so grateful to like a screening or something and it's just like okay. Movie starts like sometimes I do love sitting down and being like okay. It's GonNa Start in one minute. Oh it's starting right now like I love that because I also have always been the person where I'll see trailers on my own. I've always sought them out. I watched them online. You know I'm always aware of like what trailers are dropping and all that stuff however if I'm in the theater and I'm watching a movie and they're playing trailers and it's exciting to see trailers up on the big screen. I am in that four to six range sweet spot. That's where I met. That's that's where I'm at. I think I am. I'm probably in this one to three range but I'm I'm conflicted about. I would never go with just one. I would probably say if I could pick a specific perfect number. It would be three but the problem is it's like if you listed a whole bunch of trailers for me and said which ones do you want to see before this movie. I would pick the obvious things and the point kind of trailers before movies exposed to something you know nothing about so I am hesitant to say whittle it down to just three because then all of a sudden may we're GONNA wind up with only three Disney movie trailers playing before every of feature presentation right right yeah. What is your choice stylists. What would you go for eye temperatures as many trailers as possible. I love trailers. I I I sort of missed trailers. NAPR screenings and I always find it fun to see what's playing before movies when actually go on my own. I do think that it's sort sort of like getting a meal like you. May Say I love. I Love Hamburgers but I don't want to eat twenty of them but if they're deliciously Asli made in their well prepared and they're exactly what you're looking for. I was sure you make a a main course appetizer comparison. Yeah I want six hamburgers Interro. Arro- please twenty that's too many well take six trailers peanut butter sandwiches. I would've twenty of them. Not only more trailers bring back newsreels bring doc short film tunes lutely and then that little like let's all go to the lobby that thing with that like going. Pixar movie and getting a short film before the pitcher. I do quite enjoy that. Let's check in on the live chat quickly. Saying more than four to five is a lot. We've got Derrick Williams saying saying three or more is too many Jonathan Karas chiming in you probably give at least fifteen to twenty minutes to get popcorn and drinks and go to the bathroom while skipping during the previews then you sit down in the theater just in time for the movie to start. I mean that is probably the case with most because the other thing we have to consider is the fact that now almost every major theater entertain out there has reserved seat so there is no reason for you to get there super early over to have the seat you chose that also kind of speaks to the future picture of the landscape of movie going going forward. I mean does the amount of trailers at all impact the war between theatrical and streaming by reducing the amount of trailers you. I guess you don't necessarily even force someone to sit through them but by reducing the amount of trailers does that at all maybe increase the interest person sitting in the theater rather than sitting home sweet home will at first. I was thinking that no it didn't and at first I was thinking that these huge theater chains are never going to stop playing you know seven trailers Taylor and have twenty two minutes of of that time before the movie starts because again. It's all advertising. Whatever else is coming out and they want you to come back but now I'm thinking and it seems like it's really like a negligible negligible amount of time but if you reduce it to three or four trailers does that mean that you can squeeze in another showtime like during the day does that mean that the theater could get another whole showtime time of like I don't know I I doubt it? I don't think so unless the movie is I don't know we're running time or whatever you know what I mean like I will maybe that could help but then I was thinking the math and yeah eh up so many minutes out the day could make a big difference. I mean you if you if you have six screenings in each have twenty minutes of trailers and you reduce that you could maybe squeeze in another two who are movie like that kind of thinking but then I thought if a huge theater chain and I'm really just looking at AMC AMC to me is like the big culprit here because they are really the ones that I think have like twenty three minutes of that buffer time. I'm calling you out. AMC I imagine though if if if AMC decided to actually use this to their advantage and they started to go you know what we we hear the fans we love our AMC movie patrons. We hear you and we're now going to do and had like a little commercial next time you go to the movies like we're reducing using the number of of trailers so get here to the theater early. That's just to help them to tell people like get here to the theater early. Make sure you get your snacks and your drinks beforehand. Make sure that you're here here in your seat. Because now the movie's GonNa Start earlier than you're kind of maybe planning and I feel like that could help because it could make it because regular movie going audiences. Yes they probably probably aren't keeping track of how many trailers there are and they get to the theater to get there before the first trailer the the screen time right the movie time and then yes maybe they're stuck in line getting concessions and going to the bathroom and so thankfully because of reserve seating and because of the fact that there's twenty three minutes they're able to get back into their seat before the movie starts but like the rest of the everybody who's aware of that stuff we are taking advantage of the time so if a movie theater where to go hey we're actually not doing that anymore. We're hearing you WANNA. Try to give you the movies that you love like sooner. Get her earlier. I feel like it would. I don't know put a fire under everybody's but I'm not sure am I crazy something. I wasn't thinking about when we were just reading. Jonathan Caros response ONS is so let's say you've got something like fifteen to twenty minutes of previews that also encourages people to have a little time if they get there in in time for that to spend money at the concessions president isn't that how theater chains make so much of their money so. I don't know this is an an interesting thing I also just so hesitant to reduce the amount of trailers do because there's been so many times where we talk about a trailer here moving talk and obviously when that happens we're watching the released online on our teeny tiny computers and I can't even begin to count the Times this year alone where I watched a trailer my computer them Leonardo. That's that's pretty good when I see it on. The big screen projected on the big screen with the proper sound system and it's got a completely different effect on me yeah. I don't think it's as true anymore because we don't have as many big three. D releases but a couple years ago going to a movie theater and seeing several trailers in Three D. and getting to to sample that three d you can't do that anymore. I know let's say they reduce the amount of trailers which hypothetically play this through what is an alternative way for them to sell the next this big release and particularly keeping in mind the fact that you know certain theater chains get certain movies. How did these change chains sell people on the ones that they're going to have on their screens and why did you do a couple of things just like how even youtube now they'll have little intros before the trailer right film little. Intros with actors with people in the movie with the directors with somebody very interesting associated with the film whether it's like a returning actor for part of a franchise or like a director who's up and coming or like a really interesting writer have them film a little intro and then show the trailer for for after right after that intro but then like have them cute up like hey. This is the trailer for this upcoming movie so check it out. This is what I'm working on but then this show the trailers somewhere in the lobby have a designated area before people can walk to their their their darkened theater where you're maybe you're like. You're pumping mustard on your like. I feel feeling aims already has that little up there with commercials and so like to grab people's attention that it's not just a commercial an at and T. commercial. Whatever like saying have have a person related to the film go? Hey stop pumping that mustard. I'm James Gunn and this is the suicide squad. Check this out. Oh I didn't know he was doing that and then the trailer place to your visual I automatically pictured like little pods that you could like you know like an air force where I like. You have like a little thing you could go in. That's that's what I started a picture. Our suicide booths from future is not what I was explaining to now but that's maybe the future. I don't know any alternative silence. I would just sort of transparency of we're GONNA. I have fifteen minutes of trailers and they're going to start at this time and if you WANNA see him come early. Don't come late movie stars. SSI Yeah it's that actually could clear a lot up because technically we get a start time now and that start time is when trailers start and so if you had a very specific amount of time you could just make the choice up to yourself. That's it yeah. Would that be too confusing. If people bought a movie ticket on their phone and it's like for three o'clock got it and then when you get the ticket and email it's three o'clock parentheses trailers well three fifteen parentheses. He's movie bringing back the airport connection I made its boarding time and take off time. Absolutely that's what they should call. It isn't that snazzy. That's confusing what I gotta get to. Lax I thought I bought a movie ticket. I would also point out though that even if that trailers are really annoying we see see people at comic con every year. We'll camp out for days to see those same trailer for trailer exactly there's tons of people out there who buy tickets for certain movies just to see a trailer before project on the screen and I totally get that. We're saying like now we have reserved seats but even then it's like that doesn't always work out either. How many times have you bought a reserve seat and you get there five minutes before the movie starts and somebody seeing your awkward. Excuse me dark like what are what are you gonNA do. They go. They either go like. Oh yeah sorry or they go no this. This is my seat and you have to be like no. This is for your you you you have Jay four okay so really still get to the theater early so that you can sit in that chair and there's no chance of somebody the accidentally sitting in your chair and also just don't be a seat monster but not all right. Let's talk about some plugs. Clyde are because we have a great list. I I'm going to remind and you the downtown. Abbey contest is up and running right now. Do not forget you have the chance to win on twitter and in the live chat on twitter re tweet today's episode of Collider Ladder movie talk also use the Hashtag Downton Abbey Film and tell us who your favor downton character is and in the live chat answer this question what TV series cast would do you want reunited on the big screen. We will take two winners and announce them right here at the end of the show all right next big announcement tiffany abused. There are so many of so like really so many of them. I can't even get to w going over to cloud DOT com. They're all going up live right now through the weekend through next week as well now. How big deal is today. Is your very last edition of Collider movie talk at three PM. PT Starting Monday. We moved to nine am so join. US Brighton Eaten early. We're all going to be high energy. We're not going to be drinking this nonsense. We're going to be drinking coffee and it's going to be wonderful. We're GONNA have a longer program for you. We're going to have new segments. It's it's GonNa be Great. I hope to see you there bright and early nine. Am Pacific on Monday morning all right guys story number two. We're talking about J.j the Abrahams and all of his money so here's the breakdown of exactly what's been going on. j.j Abrams closed deal with Warner media yesterday but he he didn't just simply go with the highest bidder when he was trying to find this new home for years bad robot has been housed a paramount but with the deal up for renegotiation this year. Abrams uh-huh took his show on the road and he basically got pitches from all the major players it includes Netflix and Sony pictures but it was apple that made a very very very big away for Abrahams in the range of five hundred million dollars ultimately though Abrahams and bad robot passed on that option and instead. They took a deal worth two hundred fifty million from Warner media. So why did he do such a thing. Warner media offered something that apple could and its flexibility when filmmakers and producers INC overall deals with the studios. What happens is that they're rarely exclusive contracts? They have the opportunity to go out and make products for other companies with Apple. They wanted to get him exclusively. According to T- hr they offered five hundred million to house bad robot wanted the company. You only making apple content and add your concern was the fact that apple doesn't have a theatrical distribution model so if Abrams did sign with them his movies would only go directly to streaming Abrahams and bad robot did seriously consider this offer but ultimately the exclusivity proved to be too much so abrahams just passed and he took the two fifty over at one brothers first question just simply. What do you think of this decision. Is he crazy to cut his paycheck. In half or is is the flexibility worth the money good job. I think it's a good choice. I think it's from the very little I know about movie business in dollars and cents and such I think that it says a lot that Abrahams and his production company bad robot specifically went with a place that had a little bit more freedom. They went with Warner brothers that had more warner media that had more of that flexibility because you know I feel like apple has that uphill battle right now because they're not this kind of company. They're not like a we make content company there we sell products and Tech Company to go into the entertainment industry to to to seems like have a very different way of thinking that may may have worked for their previous stuff but it uphill battle. I feel like they're going to have to convince not only the creatives and everything but also the audience that people like us that are may be aware of what the deals Zarin what's happening. What apple is doing and what you know how much their stuff's going to cost and what kinds of creatives they have attached to their to their projects. So that's the stuff that that they're going to have have to to to win over. I guess like those groups and I feel like this isn't it seems again with very little. I know. It seems like the smartest way to go about. Doing that is to go well. We want exclusivity and everyone might be going well. That's not how any of this works so by piece decision. All absolutely I mean you can and you can take your second choice of a luxury cruise ship. If the first choice is the titanic well said what is the apple have like they have an idea for a service but every competitor has a service that is ready to go with genuine content that people care. We're about an apple. Has this idea that they should also do that. I think they're banking on like I think apple thinks that people that there is a brand loyalty when it comes like movies and TV and it's like well. That's not really crazy thing. Is I feel that brand like I feel that I feel the brand in two I got a phone in my pocket then then films and series though I don't it's crazy to me actually when you put it that way because while I do feel deep loyalty arlit might it's heck product. I don't feel I listened to that. I hate to say this too but the reality is I also have a I have a brand loyalty specifically to brands like Marvel and DC and Disney and Lucasfilm and Pixar and warner brothers. I mean I I when I see bugs bunny and different warner brothers things in DC superhero movies and stuff. I I love that and I have recognized that brand connections of to me and even even things like Sony. I'm like well Sony Sony Pictures Animation. I have different brand loyalties there but yeah for the apple thing it's really I feel like they are banking on that that they're going. We'll know people love apple cake yeah but it's also J.J. Abrams has excelled hold at not that hasn't come up with original things but he has excelled taking things if people are very familiar with and turning them into something something new and different and and apple doesn't have that yeah brothers has a huge catalog of movies. That could be remade. TV shows comic books. I'm just the DC Z. Universe seems like it makes sense for him to make this is also to a much. It's a much different scale but I can relate to the idea. I bet all the money in the world won't matter if you feel kind of like shackled to a certain something or you aren't super enthused with the opportunities that you have web so if he was working with let's say you know limitations over at apple rather than having everything as fingertips like he has had for many years. I don't no no I I would take that paycheck cut and I would go with the better options more flexibility. He said that feeling before one of my favorite things about J.J. Abrams is that he talked about a Ah this specific thing with with Jeff Garland on like the Jeff Garland podcast where he was once contract it to make TV show for some company. Maybe he was universal. NBC I forget where it was but he was contracted to do it in the show ended up being undercovers and JJ was not into it it was like a spy show and he was like I really want to do this but then he found a thing that made him excited excited about the project which was what if we cast to black leads in the show and the show had two black leads very attractive people he was really excited about that but but he you talked about on this podcast because of the fact that he I guess some of the other. Maybe that people that weren't like maybe on his same level. I'm not sure but if you can find it goal is to it. It's a really great conversation. He wasn't as into the idea kind of to begin with and he felt that even with that great casting that the whole rest of the show didn't have enough of a strong structure and I think it was canceled insult after one season maybe two seasons and he felt really badly that the thing that he worked on that it's like two black leads and this is really cool and really important and you don't see this this type of show typically failed and so he felt and I think that that was part of his decision making process for Disney came around they went star wars and he went Gregor Great. Let's have a woman as the lead aid and let's have a Guatemalan guy in a black guy like the co like I think that was part of his thinking processes like I messed up over here but here's another opportunity to work on thing I'm very into but still it'll take some of that same like excitement for what can we do in terms of diversity and representation and and all that kind of thing so he's definitely. I've heard him talk about feeling shackled shackled and it. I don't think that it would lead to a good creative product so yes. You're right Perry. He probably doesn't like that. the other thing. I wanted to ask you guys about is just again with streaming services. They need a library of their own. The days of giving out your content and making licensing deals as long behind us they need a big library and what we see in a lot of these streaming services right now is them striking deals with different creators. I don't believe I can think of any that are fully exclusive. Lake that whereas you know I. I don't know why this is the first one that's coming to mind but it's like Adam Sandler networks. You make this amount of movies for us. He is in stuck with them for everything else. So do you think that apple's play as far as aligning themselves with big names. I J J Abrams is going to be continuing down this path or is this kind of exclusivity deal the j.j Abrams specific That's a good question. Don't they have a deal also with Spielberg Apple. Didn't they get Spielberg also but it's also cannot be an exclusivity yeah something most. I feel like again. I don't WanNa say this without having the facts in front of me but I do feel like most of the things I've read about. Original content over at apple is is specific to a show if not an amount of shows but it's not like you're with us and not with anyone else and I feel then yeah then this is probably just a j specific thing. Maybe they did think with with his clout his name you know his production team and everybody at sky dance like that maybe that they could just drive up that huge truck full of money and be like we will get him but then it didn't work out so. I think it's jj specific so jj passes is on this money. If there is any other creator that you would suggest apple run to next who would it be. That is worth that five hundred million I I would suggest I don't think apple's going to sign up for apple for that Lynch. It'd be amazing burner Herzog at apple so great I mean I would. I'd give it a name but I again. I don't I feel like apple probably wouldn't wouldn't because you know people didn't love Glint Mike I did. Hey concert yeah yeah. I don't know Jordan Peele. I don't know but I feel like all the career those craters and I'm really excited by now. Also have stuff set up other places right yeah. I think it's like I want to keep doing that. New Gods movie for Warner Brothers. Let's tossed out there those that have the ability to like write direct produce and also have an entity like bad robot to their name also. It's very difficult to think of a solid other there option for apple if they want to lock in specific talent. Jj a different interests person bring up the she supposedly very good friends and and she's working in the DC universe in the past. We know J.J. Abrams had planned to do a superman movie. I could easily see that become his next big project object after I I agree and I know that it's it's it's very cliche to be like collider and let's bring it right back to the superhero movies but honestly it makes a lot of sense for for for for it for bad robot to be at Warner brothers and for them to go. Hey so we have this whole thing. Do we've been working on to varying degrees of success and failure What's your ideas. What's your take. Can I feel that the j.j Abrams of today is a very different. Jj than the one that was maybe GonNa do Superman fifteen or twenty years ago so like I love the JJ up today. I love his original stuff. I love Super Eight. I also love lost. Even though he left after the pilot I still think that it's you can kind of feel his you know his tendrils throughout the show and I also really really loved the Star Trek Mission Mission Impossible Star Wars. Jj again that Jayjay it's tackle these huge properties and has it has been able to find a way to like translate it for modern audiences updated. Go reenergize energize. It and I think that somebody like that would be very very very equipped to handle the okay superman. Let's talk about it. Let's justice this league. What happened what can we do? What's your take Flash Green Lantern. Should we do it again. WHAT ARE WE GONNA. I feel that JJ coupled with able to attack any from on both sides could. Maybe you know she's like. I'll get the space stuff you get the earth stuff and we'll meet in the middle booms. Maybe they should reassessing come out some creators of the package deal yeah the mind that you want to keep talking about superheroes because I've got to get some live chat questions in the mix and we have one that we really should hit from Zeno our who's asking thoughts on James Gunn revealing the full cast of the suicide squad and which cast member are you most excited about you can say storm. Reid drink love some read. She's great. She was great and wrinkle in time and here she's great new for you haven't seen it yet here. She's great in that but very excited about that also Michael Rooker with James Gunn is also great. Also I do want to mention like Viola. Davis is coming back and that's a you know an interest oba is in it and I don't think he's not playing dead Chinese new character and and there's some other returning cast members or is it just by all the day I was going to name. J Courtney needs way more love than he gets home. He's he sued the first one but I hope he gets even more to doing this even though when I look at this gigantic graphic that he revealed I'm like someone's going to be in the movie for two minutes. I wonder who's going to be. I'm just excited added that James Gunn and everybody at one brothers you know because they could have very easily and I know this is a conversation for months. The conversation is is this a reboot. What is this you know how many characters characters coming back and are you just recasting certain actors and will. Smith can't do it so does that. Mean to somebody else is. GonNa Play Dead Shot. Does that make it a straight reboot. I'm just happy that with whatever continuity that they've set up up how you felt about the movie suicide squad that they're able to call back on that and use it and build on it because it had an incredible cast again however you feel about the movie that Castro was solid stacked. That world building was there. I was like at the end of the movie. I was like okay. Bring on part two and here's what I would do but I was still just excited at the prospect of you know especially with those little like Superhero cameos those those are fun the coordination with the Flash. I'm like Oh cool. Captain Boomerang fighting the flash in a movie right now. That's awesome more or of this more of this please. Captain Boomerang is returning yes. I think you know what here's my. Here's my call. I feel like he's GonNa Survive to the end of the movie because Captain Boomerang is a staple for the suicide squad like he always almost is and it's so dumb because he's the guy that doesn't have any powers and yet other characters get their heads blown off and other. You know what I mean and they're like you know so i. I bet he's GonNa live I do of course I'm very excited for them. On your comment about continuity I totally agree I think even bad continuity is important to embrace and to that end maybe tyco a tedious his character from Green Lantern. What are you serious that would be. It's so ridiculous is IRA. I grew up such a doctor who fan and he not only. It's amazing. It's actually I think he's my favorite doctor. I've got an interview him and he's a place. I don't know there are reports that he's bald in the role which immediately he has people saying Oh. He's going to be lex luther or some. There's father but who knows interesting. Here's here's the thing about super villains which is realization. I just made a few days ago. No joke super villains either have great great hair or no hair like there's a lot of bald villain so he could be he could be any number of characters from the DC universe he could be like like Mr Zuma's. He could be crazy like an older like British psychopathic. I don't know he could be maybe he he could be like calendar man or something. There's just so many different characters. That's really exciting but it can't be he can't be his Taika cannot be the guy from green lantern because Angela Bassett played Viola Davis role in green lantern and now it's Viola Davis People Forget forget Angela Bassett was in green lantern and she played the same character Amanda Waller that Viola Davis plays in suicide squad. Never is warmer. She it also specifically Amanda Waller was killed in that movie Ed Killed Off Angela Bassett's character and also thousand mistake. He shouldn't have done that all right. I'M GONNA get in and one more live chat question here because I feel like I should reference this because hey I'm back from tips guys. nate. Richard wants to know what movie that I saw tiff. Do I think has is the most potential to win best picture. It's crazy because I was actually having this conversation with someone earlier. Even though I saw a whole bunch of movies at tiff that I really really loved I I didn't walk away like I did last year because last year everybody walked away and they're like Oh stars born and obviously things can change as months go on but stars born felt like the front front runner. I don't have that same feeling about anything this year but I'll tell you in my top rate. Now I think I'm I'm Joe Joe Rabbit knives out and then the movie waves leaves from trae Edward Scholz. I think those are my top three but there there's a lot there's a lot that you guys should be very excited about and you could find reviews and coverage of all these he's movies on collider dot com glider video and the collider intervene youtube channel. Check it all out before we say goodbye we gotta give out these. Downton Abbey prices so we've got two winners here her two winners. How are we organizing this so I don't know how you organize the sped super chat. Oh No we have a super yeah question. Let's let's do that before. I forget to answer it. What's an underrated performance. That never gets recognition for me. It's Tim Roth Devilish Performance in Rob Roy. You guys have an underrated performance. That never gets recognition. I guess this stemmed from John Courtney so I'm happy that the Tomb Roth in planet of the apes the the Tim Burton Burton. Maybe Tim Roth in everything that honestly honestly the incredible hulk without like that's a really good performance to a great question VIN diesel in the iron giant. I think there's a lot with his six words that he says or whatever I think well. Let's grew. I guess I don't know I have a really good accurate. I need to think about about it. I mean they're certainly under appreciated performances but I'm striking a blind. I'll give you a chance to think about it because now I understand these notes so with the downtown contests. I we're going to run through some answers that people put in for their favorite characters. We've got edith Mr Carson Daisy Mr Bates the Dowager Countess Countess of course and then we have some choices for the TV ensembles that people most which would be brought together again on the screen the shows does that sum submitted were Malcolm in the middle of the nanny the office how I met your mother and Buffy so oh no I would've put friends all right all right we can at friends you can add friends on your behalf our twitter winner today twitter winner is the Ben Berkowitz the Ben Berkowitz. It's your profile. You're probably just Ben Congratulations. I hope you enjoy this prize pack and I hope you enjoy Downton Abbey when you see it in theaters on the twentieth now our live chat winner congratulations to Jenny Lawson. You have officially one so guys again. Enjoy prizes don't forget the movie hits theaters on September twentieth not letting you off the hook. What did you think of anything you know the the Hannon's it's sort of a silly one because very simple Venetia Toro unless jet I sort of glossed over pick a a- all the debating back and forth about it. I think he's so good solid pan. He has that one line goes maybe which apparently was an ad Lib on his part and allowed so good and it basically basically sums up that character. That's a really great one. I'M GONNA go Matthew Fox in speed racer. Oh wow there's been coming up a lot lately. Sir Is an incredibly underrated film and I'm sure by now. The collider audience has been hit over the head with like how much people really enjoy it but like everybody in that movie is giving it a hundred percent and it's like this movie did not deserve deserve everybody to give it one hundred percents. It's a kid movie speed racer but it's the Wachowski at their most bombastic and Matthew Fox was like man he was selling it hard in in that movie and usually brings a tear to my because he's the he's a spoiler alert. He's speed racer's brother Rex Racer but he's actually racer x but he convinces you know that that's going to be the but but it still manages to convince you that it's not going to happen. I know and that end moment. It's so it's great so yeah. I'm going to give a specific movie answer but just a general person in in the industry that I think is under appreciated because his he's not like the most familiar name or face Logan Miller. You guys know what he's in. He he was in the movie escape room. This year. Which I thought was one the better you know wide release Harvey's we got but I have never seen a movie with Logan Miller and it where he doesn't give a role like I mean a hundred and ten percent you can always always count on him to be fun full of energy and just give it everything he's got so I'm throwing his name in the mix and that's it. We are winding down here. We have to give a huge thanks to hector and silence for joining us on this Friday huge. Thanks as always to cody in the booth that in the chat you guys rock and Oh boy this is it. This is our last edition of Collider movie. We talk at three. PM in the afternoon Monday morning. We're going to nine. Am right down. Don't forget we're going to see you bright and early enjoy all the collider content. You're getting this weekend like mailbag whole bunch of interviews. We are going to see you soon like insure this episode and Monday. It's coming out of Israel soon nine. Am Pacific noon eastern eastern the man. 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1998 Exide Batteries Select 400

Classic Races

2:33:23 hr | 2 years ago

1998 Exide Batteries Select 400

"This is Marin classic races. Presented by Sonoko the official fuel of NASCAR. And also brought to you by Hercules tires right on our strength. Celebrating fifty years of NASCAR racing. We are the motor racing network tonight. The NASCAR Winston Cup series is at the Richmond international raceway for the Exide. Nascar batteries four hundred the series. I visit this season to the Virginia three quarter mile back in June produced some big headlines and heated tempers outside this time and turn number one goes Jeff Gordon down to the inside rusty Wallace advantage. Gordon? Travel court spins specs contact Jeff Gordon hits the wall hard NASCAR is going to stop the field here in the front straightaway. The red flag comes out, and they will clean up that racetrack over there and this race will conclude under green flag conditions Jarrett. Now proof Kerry, it'll Bonnie goes out front all of the main players in the June drama, Gordon in Wallis, Jared and the body your back and ready for another showdown at sundown in the twenty fifth race of the season from Richmond. It's the Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred next. All in radio. I says mass car today. Sponsored by goody's headache, powders pain relief Tatler the official pain reliever of NASCAR. The lights are on in a shell out product over one hundred thousands ready for what should be very exciting race as the NASCAR which then some pup series competes at Richmond international raceway for the seventy sixth time. Hello and welcome motoracing networks. Live coverage of the Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred Allen best week here along with Barney hall. The sparks did fly in June here barn. There is a pretty interesting and exciting moments in no doubt mill see more of the same tonight and probably from the same people that we saw it from there. Plus a couple more. There's a lot of stake here for some of the guys the championship. Chase allen. They can't afford to let Jeff Gordon get much further ahead because they're going to be closed out if they do unless he should have some drastic problems himself in a couple of DNA switch. The odds are that. They're not going to they're that good. But on a short track of this size and then martinsville, which become an F in a couple of weeks. Anything can. And usually does happen. Didn't see that moon last night that we're looking at. We did see a lot of torn up race cars. A lot of guys really doing a lot of banging and thrashing around here last night and the Bush race. I got a feeling we'll see the same thing tonight. And they've got double the time to do it. Four hundred laps. If you were with us last night for the NASCAR Busch series. We tore up a lot of equipment. We were looking for a full moon as what we were looking for. We did not see one last night don't expect one again tonight, but we certainly can very well have a full moon kind of race when the lights go on here at Richmond this race track. Ideally sized in shape for good competition. Plenty of side by side racing tonight. And if you put the pressure that point race on top of it, you got the makings for a great evening back at Richmond international raceway with our pre race coverage before the green flag into. Nights Exide four hundred. Let's go trackside in here. From some of the drivers. Now before they climb aboard their machines will start with a man on the bud pole. Rusty Wallace the fastest in qualifying last evening his fourth but poll award if this season rusty's got six wins here at Richmond. He's finished. I fifth and third in the last three races here, but it has been a long time since rusty is Ben to victory lane fifty three races. It was March of nineteen Ninety-seven at this very track. The last time rusty Wallace won a Winston Cup event. Jim Phillips of Newport, Tennessee is with rusty Wallace. Now walking alongside rusty Wallace. Rusty one hundred twenty five point three seven seven to bud pole your fourth of the year. But you've got more important things on your mind like a race win. Yeah. I changed trade three of those polls in for three victories doubt about that. We've got a good car here tonight, though, Jim I feel real strong of getting at first victory in a long time here tonight. It's a it's a car call Ronnie one of my favorite cars, and it it seems like I run to thing and a lot of short tracks or does good. But every time I take into Richmond. It seems like it does better. So we're in good. Shape, but Kito victory tonight for you. What's got to happen to this car to make it run the four hundred laps pushing victory? Kita reysen is handling handlings. Always the most important thing track positions very important here at Richmond s race. I'm glad him up front line. We've got a good pitch selection. So it's going to be handling and fast pitstops rusty Wallace. The butthole water fourth time this year one hundred twenty five point three seven seven miles brower in no doubt. Rusty we make some of the sparks fly that we talked about before the evening is over. Kenny Schrader will start outside the front row tonight. Kennedy seems to always qualify. Good here at Richmond. But only twice in the last ten years has he been able to finish in the top five KENNY'S year for the most part has been decent. But not spectacular. He's tenth in points with eight top ten finishes. He needs a win. How good can they run the night and Kenny win Wisden Kelly is with him by virtue of qualifying on the outside of the front row. Barney he'll ride shotgun. And he'll take home a brand new Remington shotgun for America's oldest gun makers. But what he has his sights on is that victory lane your fourth here in June. Is it the same? Car and same setup real close team setup. I mean almost identical different car. Good low race car though and skull Chevrolet been good. We unloaded having made changes. So we're looking improve from from June. Always a lot of long runs here. But the propensity at the end of the race to have some short runs. Did you set it up for long run short runs or or either one with make that most of that change in width tires when we come into pits? Ask Ken Schrader. He'll roll the SCO Chevrolet off second this afternoon fifth second fifth and second that is Jeff Burton's record in the last four races on the NASCAR Winston Cup tour here Richmond. He's been seventh or better in four of the last five races Burton his lineup. Third on the grid tonight seeking his second win of the ninety eight season Marty Schneider of Charlotte North Carolina's with him. Well, we're hoping to be with Alan. How about that? Jeff Burton getting away from us here in the crowd amongst the people here at Richmond. Jeff Burton qualified third tonight. Hopefully, we'll get to work from him in a moment. Right now down trackside the drivers making their way to their cars. So we'll take a break come back here from Jeff Burton and some of the other front runners in the race in just a moment. Restrict to the road home fill up with soon. Open the official you'll NASCAR Sonoko mixed. High quality performance bills for the greatest drivers in the world both on and off the track. Whether you're pulling up to the pump or experiencing the excitement being at the track on race day. This will be a four-pack. Thanks. They've already topped it up with Sonoko may I service complete secondhand Fano fuel and he's doubted away from trust enough to be the fuel that keeps you going capture. The essence of racing and Philip with the official fuel of NASCAR. Citywide to countryside. Whatever you drive wherever you go. Hercules tires has the value selection and industry leading warranty to get you there. No matter where the road takes you. Deal more. Visit Hercules tire dot com. Berkeley's tires dried on our strength. Back at the Richmond international raceway, the crowd filing to their seats. At a huge crowd is here gathered around this three quarter mile stadium for auto racing. The lights are on the sun setting over the western sky and in just a few minutes. They'll get the command to fire engines and get tonight's Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred underway. This broadcast brought to you under exclusive radio rights granted by the Richmond international raceway to MR in radio solely for the private noncommercial. Use of our listening audience any publication reproduction or other use of description and accounts of this race without the express written consent of em are in radio is prohibited. We've got a lot of guys Allen that still look if that I win in one thousand nine hundred a lot of pressure on them with the season winding down rusty Wallace. Of course, we talked about fifty three racists as rusty's into victory lane. Trader could use a victory Ernie Irvine Sterling Marlin hasn't won this year. Neither has ward Burton Ricky Rudd Kyle petty Geoff Bodine all potential winners. And every time they go out there and another race goes by without getting the victory lane. The pressure gets. A little bit bigger. It is winding down this season is very rapidly nine races to go including tonight's event and the chances for victory for some drivers. You know, some teams just have a better chance for victory on a short track. Only a couple of them left here. This race tonight in martinsville in a couple of weeks and their chances to win particularly for some of those teams winding down feeling that pressure tonight. Let's go back down trackside right now, Marnie Snyder. Jeff Burton carries them a minimum of four straight top five finishes here to Richmond and starts third and attract has been very good to you. But you've never been to victory lane tonight be the night. Jeff. Well, we hope so they actually had four was really good and practices afternoon. But as we saw last night, the racetrack changes a great deal, and hopefully we've made the right adjustments last night was pretty confusing. So hope we're not equally confused the night. He refers to last night. They started twenty-second finished second the NASCAR Busch series race the health. No longer a question for Jeff Burton. He feels fine. They expect a good run tonight. He'll start third. Jeff Gordon will start fifth in tonight's race. He's won six of the last seven events on the Winston Cup tour. Leads the championship standings by one hundred ninety nine points over Mark Martin has nine top tens in eleven career starts here at Richmond. Obviously a good track for him with the June race was not he and rusty Wallace tangling racing for the lead. Gordon, finished thirty seventh. His thoughts tonight with nine races to go in the season. Let's go down to Jim Phillips. We're just talking about that sees already won ten races. Rispens but a good track for you last time. It was at great thirty seventh place finish you in rusty Wallace tangled, but how's it car tonight and seeking at eleven twin it's so hard to tell here 'cause you practice during the day and you race at night and everything changes, you know. So I'm sure we're going to be battling with it all night long. And just try to you know, be in the same position as who were the last time here we had a good shot at winning this race. But we well more importantly, we had a good top five car. And that's what we need to do here. Tonight. You seem to hang around the top five not pushed the button until you have to. It's just the way Jeff Gordon been doing it this year, and it's been paying off a new strategy for just the only one only one we got, you know. I mean, the car just hasn't been you know, as fast as we'd like it to be on some the longer runs earlier in the race. It just seems like, you know, we keep working on it. And it keeps getting better and better today goes on. And of course, you know, rare and ham and those Rambo wars when they put two or four tires on this thing, I tried to take it to the front and lately, it's been working. It really has. Go all the way back to David Pearson. Darrell Waltrip lot of guys they wait till the end to put the best foot forward. And that's the way Jeff Gordon's been doing of elite Dale Jarrett will start from seventh position tonight Richards been a good track for Dale over the years. He had one get away from him who here in June due to some unusual circumstances toward the end the race that we talked about a moment ago. He did win this race last September Dale seems to have a good feel for this race track. And he certainly has the patience that takes to win and a place like Richmond Winston Kelly's with him and final last minute preparations is getting buckled in getting the radio all hooked up. They got hashed you. I feel like this place owes you one after June. I don't know that just can say that about anything. But certainly we thought we had a race one there, but just didn't work out force. And hopefully, we can have some long green flags tonight. I think we've got a good car in long runs. If it comes down to that type of situation again, we're probably not the best car for ten or fifteen lap. Sprint had a farce last year. A second earlier this year is the setup pretty much still the same IRS the track. Chains very much track. Hasn't changed much? We hope you had hadn't any way because our setup hasn't changed. Very little. It's gotten a little bit slicker because they didn't reseal at this time. But I think we've made the right adjustments for that. And hopefully, we can be pretty good tonight. Say Hello to James Luder back in Charlotte. Who's in the hospital, an employer Robert Gates race for many many years and somebody that everybody in the sport knows in James. We're thinking about you get well soon James a very special, man. He's the machinists of the year for ten years here on the NASCAR Winston Cup tour Deo Jared very optimistic about his chances tonight. He rose off seven Terry. The body was the one who edge tail Charrette for the wind back at the June race here Terry, unfortunately since that victory has had only one top ten finish in the eleven racists from that point to now. And he's got his work cut out for him tonight. Starting back in thirty fifth position. Let's see if he thinks he can get up the front and knock wheels with him for the victory mardi Snyder's with Terry. Now, and he's got the same car. He won with here in June. He's hoping that'll carry him to victory lane. Again, Terry, it's been a struggle since you one here in June. But have you been good enough this week? To make it two straight here at Richmond. Well, I don't know. We've we've been pretty decent. But we haven't really been quite as good as we need to be. And you know, didn't qualify that will. So we got to work cut out for us. That's for sure. Long way to go from thirty fifth, but we talked earlier in the week. And he said it's tough deal here because you practice during the day. And you think your car's probably better nines that still the case. Well, I think you know, we weren't bad during the day today. And I, you know, so I don't know hope it's better tonight than it was in the daytime a lot of patients for Terry. If there's one thing playing in his favor. He started twenty four th here in one race here Richmond. So this is nothing new to tear live on east come from deep in the pack to win here. Richmond. He'll start thirty fifth tonight. That's Terry Labonte one thing terrorist. Gotta worry about not having someone like rusty Wallace. Get out front and lap him in the early going Terry's could have to hustle that car, right? From the drop of the green flag. Springtime, he's yard work and lots of it. So when it's time to replace the battery and you're riding lawnmower or tractor lent. O'reilly auto parts health, the professional parts, people will help you. Find just the right superstar lawn and garden battery to make sure you're more starts over and over again O Reilly auto parts, better parts, better prices every day. Bartz? M our radio presents none. Nass gar. Winston Cup series. Tonight. The Exide NASCAR select batteries. Under sponsored by Ray. Best breaks the best and breaks the official breaks of NASCAR. By Coca Cola. The official softdrink of NASCAR fans by Sears diehard. America's most-trusted batteries sponsoring the diehard race fan by seventy six products makers of the official fuel of NASCAR. 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Kevin the page starts thirty eight thirty seven position. Jeremy Mayfield thirty six. We'll be kitty Irwin, Terry. Labonte starts thirty fifth thirty four starter. Dale Earnhardt, thirty third Brett Bonein thirty-second. We'll be Johnny Benson. Michael Waltrip starch thirty. First Ernie urban will go from thirty. It's spot with Dennis Setzer in two thousand nine twenty eighth. You'll be Jeff green. Rick mast will start twenty seven twenty six to Mike Skinner with Ricky Rudd rolling twenty-fifth. Steve Grissom will start twenty-fourth Chad little twenty. Twenty-second Dave Marcus in two thousand I will be Bill Elliott and just about in the middle of the field and twentieth. Bought will be Robert Pressley. Jerry Naidoo starts nineteenth. Eighteenth order will be Todd boat on Ted musk grave will be seventeenth. Starting sixteenth. Jimmy, spencer. Ward Burton will be the sixteenth starter. Like that the fifteenth starting fourteenth is Wally Dolon back. Kenny Wallace starch thirteenth Mark Martin goes from twelve position and eleventh is Kyle petty. Bobby the body starts tenth tonight with John Andretti. Ninth grade qualifying run for Derek cope who starts in the eighth position. Dale Jarrett will roll from seven six starter Bobby Hamilton with Jeff Gordon going from fifth position, Sterling Marlin. We'll start in number four the number four position with Jeff Burton starting third tonight the front row outside Ken Schrader in his Chevrolet and the bud. Pole winner rusty Wallace in the Miller lite Ford. Rusty trying for fifteen thousand two hundred extra dollars. That's the Seventy-six challenge. Available to to him if he can win this four hundred lap of it. One of the great things about night racing. The pace laps when the flashbulbs just explode. The grandstand at dusk. Really a spectacular sight to see. And now is the field comes to the stripe. They get the signal in one more lap. We'll go racing one more lap. And they will cut them loose here. Richmond under the lights really enjoy coming this racetrack. It is three quarters of a mile around it as we told you a moment ago and just some really good hard nose racing at this particular speedway as they work down in one and two. Let's take a swing around it. Meet the other member of broadcast team who'll be covering the action over in three and four from Hampton Virginia. Joe more. Thanks Barney could evening everyone. It's another beautiful night here in Virginia located at the end of the back straightaway. Watching these cars as they make their way. Now through turns one and two fourteen degrees of backing they're the groove goes about midway up the race track. But comes right up against the outside retaining wall. What's the cars exit turned to hit the back straight away? That's where the scramble begins. We'll probably see plenty of action here tonight. Like we did last night during the NASCAR Busch series race. It's usually a drag race down the back straightaway. Squeeze our way back into turn three. He covered all the action on the back straightaway. Here this evening gave another. Slap to get the field in proper formation. So we'll be one more time around before the green flag in tonight's race. Couple of updates Jimmy Spencer crashed in the final practice session this afternoon. Literally the final moment of the final practice. The team. Winston group had to pull out a backup car. He has dropped to the end of the field from the sixteenth starting spot. He had qualified it on Friday. Also Dennis Setzer was involved in a crash during this morning's practice session late this morning about noontime. He has gone toward the back of the field as well in a backup machine for the first plus group. So those two drivers have taken up their spots for the start now. And we're about two thirds of a lap away. From the green flag Spencer starting at the Taylor in the field. Did the same thing last night of the Bush raised it didn't take him too long at work his way to the front of the field and get up here and challenge for the lead integrate Porsche that race. Let's see what he can do here tonight as they're about a half a lap away from going green, those flashbulbs at Allen talked about still popping all around the speedways. I take pictures of the field. Getting ready to go green four hundred circuits around the Richmond international raceway. And we're going to see a good one pace car takes him over to turn number three on the front row. Rusty Wallace Ken Schrader back in row two. Jeff Burton and Sterling Marlin, Jeff, Gordon and Bobby Hamilton sit in row three Dale Jarrett, and Derek cope, John and ready and Bobby body makeup your top ten pace car behind the pit wall. They are down to the line. Green flag goes in the air. And we are underway racing to turn of a one. Rusty wallace. Gets a good start will pull out single file as they get to the corner scramble is going to be for second place as they go off turn to trader lift a little bit high tournament to it opened the inside for Jeff Burton to challenge him there while rusty Wallace drives away. So they're racing from second on. Burton v Burton down low Schrader up top as they come off. For for the first time Schroeder by half a length at the line as rusty Wallace has about a seven car link leads still door to door Bertin Schrader back to one hawks the end sideline coming back into the corner again while Ken Schrader rides. The high line off turned over to their side by side while further back John Andretti. Mix a bid for the spot. One of the most critical parts of any race on a short track. Is those first ten or fifteen laps. Can't let the peel sort out. Don't get too impatient. In the early going there back in turn one. And rusty Wallace continues to lead by six or seven Carling's that scramble for second. It's about as good as it gets jail. Burt gets the advantage of that scramble this time quarter a little bit faster than Slater. But Traer bulls. Traer bulls raiders still hanging up on the high side of the race track. Is they come off the corner Schrader by happen os. Is they come to the stripe. Still Burton tucked up to his inside and Sterling Marlin lying in wait to see which lane opens up. I'd buy side for the second spot as rusty Wallace drives away and problems Ricky Rudd he slows at has dropped to the rear of the field for second. Again, it's Reiter. Jeff Berg there side by side. And currently has about to put four laps on a speedway rusty leads. At scrambled for second has freighter on the outside Burton down on the inside back in fourth place, right now, a Sterling Marlin still hanging onto fifth is Jeff Gordon. He just take everything in kind of winning that battle for second place to sort itself out there off turn to sort itself out of Ventura eight, but no continually side-by-side Chevrolet, Ford, Burke Swedes. So the trigger. They touch ever so slightly coming off turn four. As Burton continues to press down the bottom and Schrader continues to hang tough on the outside back to one this time Schrader noses out in front. Freighter uses the high side finally pulls out in front of Jeff Burton at Burton immediately. Sees it other challenge, here's Jeff Gordon. Out of the race. Now for that second placed battle, I don't know if he does or not as long as they're running single file Joe he was content to get up there. And maybe make a charge if they continue to ride door to door. He's using a little patience waiting to see if something happens, they're they're off to one more time to save up. Once again, here's Jeff Burton looking down the inside. He'll try to make a challenge at ten traitor. Betrays Bates deter number three greater hangs on a second for Ricky Rudd has come to pit road. Very slowly. Let's get an update on what's wrong with the tide machine. Rather with a bright? On the floor behind the wall. The clues to get out there and helping stop it. He could bring it behind the wall, and they're going to work on it. Bad break for Ricky Rudd who just seven laps into the event goes back behind the wall in this Exide four hundred here comes the leader rusty Wallace to the stripe. He's got about ten twelve car. Links on Ken Schrader their single file now second third and fourth straighter. Jeff Burton and Jeff Gordon challenge for the fifth position Alice. John Andretti goes after sterling Barnow tournament to Andretti's planet. Well on the inside of the racetrack put Marlin slugger in the end of the back right away, their dead even going into three a surprise some of those cars running so well in the downside ru watched raiders stay up their door to door in the Highline. Usually at groove doesn't come in until they get a lot of rubber in the racetrack. Although they had a race year last night. We've practiced most of the afternoon you still don't see them racing. This hard door to door through the corners outside Joe, but the cars are working in. Both moves certainly are both. Visit a racetrack is well second battle. Over your birth again. Chase down freedom peaks underneath straighter off turn four has to slide up in line behind him. Let's drop back now contact between John Andretti and Sterling Marlin is they raced for that position is let something dangling from the back of the P cars, he leaves too. But it's made him up a helped up that is to move up to the fifth position. But that away from Sterling Marlin last time. Jeep fennel back of Pontiac put bell, John ready. Just for the moment ride. Single file still taking your look at that battle for second place down and turn to one. This time Burton goes all the way down to the end side. Bay grabbed the spot away off turn to Vert finally is going to get the spot Ken Schrader user, the end sidelining pulls up to take the second spot. Schrader falls back in third. Champ behind Gordon by about five car. Links is John Andretti and fift-. He's got three or four car lengths to Bobby Hamilton and six there are seven cars group tightly together, they're Hamilton, Sterling Marlin Dale Jarrett, Mark Martin and others at the front as a come back. Oh, turn number two and hit this back right away. All the while rusty Wallace to fitness to pull away from now the second place Dan fan rusty just put thirteen laps on the school board here at Richmond. Back at Richmond. John Andretti continues unencumbered by his problem but the caution waves for the first time in the race. Rick masts car just went up a huge plume of spoke. Would he came down the front stretch last time by now he's got more problems on the back straightaway? Joe looks like a little bright onto that car flames or blowing from underneath the car Frick masses. He comes down the back straightaway. Smoke is filled up the cockpit doubt they can barely see where he's going, but he is slowing down on the inside for the racetrack. Trying to make it around the pit road and can be an early evening looks like for Rick mast. He will get the car onto pit road that smoke continues to trail. No see the flames coming out right now. I think they've gone out. But it went up in a big plume of smoke and flame as it went off into tournament. One. Or we're unto caution for the first time caution comes out at lap sixteen body. Rick mast was the first driver out of the June race here with an engine failure. He got one hundred thirteen laps out of that. When only seventeen now from the Richmond international raceway, this M R N radio. He is the NBA the racing world. I assumed that Ryan baba and faith. We're all busy. And I was the next order. She goes way back when did you meet? Now, ninth grade, I was a minute ago. Just wants to be friends. No, he's the Sunday money podcast. Join Coyle Ajoy Darrow, Bod and Lord Botts is they detail what is like to live though, raising lifestyle both on and off the track. Download and subscribe as Sunday money on itunes Spotify at your favorite podcast, blood it but from nuts jammed in. Back at Richmond international raceway. I caution of the race. Rick mast with a problem coming down the front stretch putting some oil and liquid down on the speedway. He's taken the Remington car behind the wall. Let's go there. Now, too Marty Schneider or we're going to get Rick mass in a minute. We're covering pitstops right now Brett Bodine was any took a four tire. Stop to tires for Michael Waltrip when we're going to get a word with Rick mast in just a second was to Kelly their coats on think spark plug wire Lucy just pulls away in the gum out Pontiac. It's still sounds just of it's our not running on all eight cylinders. They put the heat. Shields off a check for the the spark plug wire to be off wanted to make sure they didn't lose the at of bringing back in the next time around Venice sets are also on pit road. I plus forward to break for Derrick. He had qualified eighth and started up there. And then fell all the way back to the Taylor the field. But he's still got plenty of time to make it back up watching the John Andretti car. We mentioned there were something dangling behind the machine. We've come to deduce that it might be the. Grill wire mesh from sterling marlin's car contact between the nose of sterling's machine in the back deck of Andretti's car has ripped the wire mesh that they used to cover the grill openings away from marlin's car, and it's kind of stuck on the back end of Andretti's machine. They're trying to see if that might just fall off by itself or maybe they can get another team to help them. Knock it off under the caution flag. But right now, the NASCAR officials have looked at it and said, it doesn't look like it's a problem. So they're going to allow John Andretti to stay on the race track. In be just fine. Is he continues on in the fifth position while we're under the caution flag? Art Hawkins the president chief executive officer and chairman of the Exide corporation has stepped into the booth. Of course, this the Exide NASCAR select batteries four hundred Mr. Hawkins, your company is really over the last several years become a major sponsor in NASCAR racing. 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Art Hawkins president chief executive officer and chairman of the Exide corporation here. With us enrichment tonight, we'll give update on a couple of situation. Rick mast gone back onto the speedway. Ricky Rudd has taken his car back onto the track. And John Andretti was in just a moment ago in front of him Phillips quick date update from Jim well, we talked about that wire mesh from the Sterling Marlin car. That's exactly what it was. But it costs that they we call track position break Robbie limits. You had to pit tell us why you had to pit. Yeah. We got sterling Hamilton's grill on the back bumper there hung up. And it just wouldn't come off. We try to shake guys bump into put. It wouldn't come all. So it's still early in the race. We've got a great car which to take care of it now to get back up front, but they did put four new tires on it. So that'll help them Dane subtract position on the people. They've got twenty two laughs on their tires came down pit road fifth. He is thirty nine th right now, Rick mast and Ricky Rudd if both come back from behind the wall updates there when we come back. We're back racing at Richmond. Rusty Wallace leads second spot is about to change hands off turn four Jeff Gordon jumps up into the number two position. Now sets his sights on leader rusty Wallace. Meanwhile, Ricky Rudd is running rusty real hard trying to get a lap back as their work off turn to rusty Wallace. Looks to the outside for a chance now comes up off the corner rookie rod that is making the chance move try to squeeze down the inside of the racetrack. Take both rut and Rick mast back on the racetrack. After time behind the wall. Let's get it update on both cars problems. We heard earlier that team had a brake problem. We also talked about Rick mast going down onto pit road. Did not update why let's get those reports. Now, we couldn't talk math is because the team was working feverishly on the car. A rather simple problem. The oil line fell off. That's why all the smoke and now her behind the Remington board. They have fixed. The problem now for Rick Massey's back out on the track and good for Rick who is hoping to be able to get back in the deed. He has Ricky Rudd has gotten around rusty Wallace. Now, Ricky is going to be at least a dozen laps. Her more behind having spent a lot of time behind the wall. So rusty wisely just lets him go, but I'm afraid rusty may be quicker than Ricky is go back to turn three other fast vanished. Jeff, Gordon moved by. Jeff Burton on the restart. The second physician. It is rusty Wallace leading Jeff Gordon second. Jeff Burton third Ken Schrader fourth and Bobby Hamilton v. Sterling Marlin is six Dale javard is seventh Bobby the body is eighth. Mark Martin runs ninth and tenth belongs to Todd Bodine all those cars. One single file coming off the quarter here spotted a body making a move down to the inside ruby go by Dale Jarrett. Vilely now decides he can come around the outside took the high grew up through three and four then cuts back to the inside of Dale Jarrett goes after him down and turn of a one to see can get a position on him. He gets offender underneath Dale Jarrett. They might have touched a little bit. They go off turn to they continue to battle. While we have a change for the second spot. Jet Burton goes underneath Jeff Gordon Graham the positions air back to Dale Jared. Jared Jared holds on the body trying inside and outside to get the position away. Those drivers racing for seventh and eighth. We mentioned Derek cope with some troubles on the pitstop descriptions a couple of minutes ago. He's on the lead lap in forty first position. Winston Kelly follow a please. They brought him in chains with spark plug, and he is back on all eight cylinders. Trying to stay on the tail. Leila came back down pit road right before and went green put around of Biden and build it up with deals, but each and trying to stay on the team did a good job for Derek. He was on pit road five times during that caution flag and still is up in the hunt for the moment. Good scrambled. How's that go down the back straightaway? Rusty wallace. No problem right there. But from about third place on back pretty good racing over intern three trader has the fourth position to hold off. Bobby? Fresher on and Sterling Marlin patients serious heat for the sixth spot. Dale Jarrett gets run on him off turn four looks out of the inside with Bobby the body and Mark Martin tried to follow him through drives in love with comes up high and pulls up in front of the car, Sterling Marlin would he goes high that opened inside the body? What car glances off the wall? It is Joe Teco. Vince, the wall off turn to he collects several other cars Dow crashing into another wall watered Presley Jasper engine four Turks completely around and Dale Earnhardt has tremendous damage to the white side of his car here on the back straight away. A lot of play about earnhardt's cars. He got down on the apron of the track impact. He looks like either drop some oil over there. Still burning down the apron to the speedway but Earnhardt will go on around the racetrack. Back to Joe more. Robert Pressley still sits in the middle of the race track. Trying to refile his Jasper engines car Dale Earnhardt of the Goodrich machine with flames still pork prevent machine. Joe Nemechek is able to refi his car embody, it appears that Nemechek was the first car to get out of shape. Coming up off turnover to it got turned sideways, and collected these other tube machines. Here's Earnhardt now finally climbing out of his car. Flames starting to boil out of the right foot of his machine watered Presley has dropped the window net. He's twice. The Clive out is Joe Nemechek starts driving back around looker. Raj bell benefit of a replay. We've just had to look at here. Robert Pressley got up out of the groove off turn two and bounced off the wall. And when he came back across the racetrack. He collected both Nemechek and Earnhardt hitting Nemechek first, and then Earnhardt kind of piling in between those two drivers as Nemechek and Presley's cars were Presley's left front to Nima checks right front. Kind of an V-shaped sliding down the race track. Earnhardt Kane at kind of came in the middle and got into the both cards there as he had no place to go with the track. Block continues to be heavy amount of smoke boiling from earnhardt's car is it sits at the bottom of turn three. Let's go back to Joe war, spray the fire retardant all over Earnhardt Chevrolet again. He did climb out of the car. What of a scary for a few moments because the flames? Reporting from underneath and for the front right opened car earnhardt's back over talking to the firemen. Now, they've completely ruined his car. What was left of it? Now with the fire retorted all over it. Robert pressley. Meanwhile, his car still sits in the middle of the race track. Here. A lot of damage to the front end. The whole white side is scraped up safety personnel there. Ted dick to him at again Neva. Check was able to limp away from the scene of the crash that will put us under caution for the second time this evening here at Richmond will pause ten seconds for station. Identification on 'em are in radio the voice of NASCAR racing. Well, we told you the sparks would fly and indeed they have they come out early. We are under caution for the second time at lap number. Thirty six seeing a few cars dime onto pit road. Quickly update down in Winston Kelly. Jeff green one of those in the money store. Chevrolet. He gets four tires chassis adjustment. And Seventy-six racing gasoline der Kolk nothing to lose. He was on the tail end of the land. This caution flag break for him. Right side tires only this time. And also Dennis set through on pit road four tires and Seventy-six fueled. So the stops under the caution flag for some of those running deep in the field. We'll take a break come back as we work the yellow for the second time it came out at thirty four Joni Mitchell, Robert Pressley in Dale Earnhardt, the drivers involved in the crash. Hip continuing onto the caution at Richmond. Let's go to the garage, and Marty Schneider Dale Earnhardt his fine walking along what happened? They wrecked coming off to got all up the wall in a car cO back off law thank to seventy seven, and I was getting into Riley hitting hit him when my ripe rot daily product jerked gasline lose wrote a few apartment if they just guided in eighty eighty cents lit around. I hit him just you know, it is called a fire. No big deal. We'll get it. But out here. We'll get going to get his thank. But that together eighty Eddie seven. He's referring to us. Of course, Joe Nemechek, very disappointing. Because these guys had a great run going start at thirty fourth. They'd got up to twenty second. This new car that owned heart has his baby he has been watching. This thing guiding the tow trucks, they are going to get back out at his covered in fire retardant stuff. But I they are going to get this car back out there for the hate to see that half of the daily got the team turned around and the always puts on a good show here. Can you can almost make book on he and rusty running ten or twenty or thirty laps door to door this place died four Dale in the garage early along with Robert freshly and Joni Mitchell, maybe a nominee for the he said ake award that the members of the media will vote later on in the. The evening two thousand five hundred dollars to the winner. Who suffered the hardest luck during the running over preparation for the race from goody's headache powders and tablets the official pain reliever of NASCAR forty-one laps complete cleanup continuing out intern number three where they have dumped an awful lot of oil dry. And of course, the powder from extinguishing the fire from Dale earnhardt's car. So let's set the field for you. While we have just a minute. Rusty Wallace leads. Jeff Burton is second. Jeff, Gordon is third Ken Schrader fourth and Bobby Hamilton v. Dale javard is six Bobby Labonte seventh. Mark Martin eighth. Todd Bodine running night. He's driving the Eljay racing car here tonight. Good qualifying run for them. They started eighteenth and taught his moved up well into the number nine spot right now Kyle petty rounds out the top ten Ted musk graves eleventh walling Dell and back twelve Kenny Wallace thirteenth Jerry Naidoo fourteenth. And Steve Grissom. Fifteenth sixteenth is Bill Elliott. Chad little is seventeenth Ernie urban eighteen Mike Skinner nineteenth and Kevin LePage. Twentieth. Twenty-first is Dave Marcus dick, trickles twenty-second Jeremy Mayfield twenty-third. John Andretti's back to twenty four th now with Jimmy Spencer twenty-fifth Sterling Marlin pitted. Under the yellow he's twenty six followed by Kenny Irwin, Jeff green. Derek copen? Johnny Benson back to thirtieth. Steve park. Geoff Bodine Terry the body Brett Bodine and ward Burton go back to thirty fifth with Michael Waltrip. Dennis Setzer and Darrell Waltrip the final three on the lead lap. Darrell running in thirty eighth. Rick mast some laps down in thirty ninth position. Six laps down to be specific Robert Pressley Joni Mitchell, Dale Earnhardt in the garage Ricky rod runs fifteen laps down to the forty third position. And that is your full field rundown. A sibling get an update from the garage. Maybe on Joe Nemechek car. They're trying to get it fixed and getting back in the end, the damage is pretty significant Barney on Joe you're gonna be able to get this thing back in and what happened. Well, I'm sure we'll get it back in. But it's just going to be out there too right around a few laps. Not real sure something happened. The Robert Pressley know, we had them hung up on the outside and everybody was going by then all of a sudden he bounced off the wall and he just shot right in front of me at nowhere to go. I mean pretty much kill. This car Dale got into me. You just feel sorry for this whole BellSouth team. These guys have been working really hard, and we had a head Marin card tonight here Richmond. I mean, we knew what we had to have. We've been a six year last year in this race, and we had a better car than last year. And it's just a shame. But we'll rebound. I'm okay. Just a shame wonder for these guys Richmond one of Joe's favorite racetracks. But they're going to be out of it tonight. They had the big thing is all the drivers. Hopefully are okay. We'll get a report later on rubber Presley as soon as we can. But those race cars can be repaired. We've glad all the drivers are. But it is a shame. When it seems like the nights that you have a car or the days that you have a car that they really worked on the teams busted their tail all weekend to get it really going. You feel like you're going to at least finished in the top five and in bloom, but that's short-track racing. That's racing in general when luck is not with you. It generally comes at the worst time, you know, another look at that replay in the crash party looked like Robert Pressley might have cut down a right front tire leaving turn number two. Which is what sent him into the outside wall in the first place. We will get a follow up word with Robert here in just a minute or two but Presley Joni Mitchell, and Dale Earnhardt, the three drivers involved in the crash that has left us still under the yellow flag while when we finish up tonight here in Richmond tomorrow, we will tune in the radio and listen to the NASCAR craftsman truck series says they. As for the first time at Memphis motorsports park in the Memphis, two hundred that is at twelve forty five eastern time tomorrow on the NASCAR truck network, the Memphis track a three quarter mile oval much like this. When enrichment should be a good show. And that is tomorrow at twelve forty five eastern time next weekend motoracing network at the monster mile in Dover, Delaware, beginning Friday with bud pole. Qualifying at three thirty eastern a special edition of NASCAR live Friday night at seven o'clock eastern time from Dover followed by the NASCAR Busch series MBNA two hundred next Saturday at twelve forty five in the afternoon and a week from tomorrow the NASCAR Winston Cup series on the monster mile the MBNA four hundred at eleven forty five A M eastern time. Next Sunday, we moved from there to the martinsville speedway in Virginia for the Napa auto care five hundred on Sunday, the twenty seventh and then into the month of October will visit Talladega Alabama for the Winston five hundred on the eleventh of October Daytona Beach, Florida for the rescheduled Pepsi four hundred Saturday October the seventeenth gateway international raceway in Madison Illinois for the NASCAR Busch series. Carquest three hundred that same day the seventeenth of October and will wind up the month of October in Phoenix Arizona for the route five hundred on the twenty fifth. And then the first of November finds us at Rockingham North Carolina for the AC Delco four hundred we finish up our broadcast schedule for the season with visits the homestead Florida for the NASCAR Busch series season. Enter the jiffy lube three hundred on November the fifteenth and New York City the annual NASCAR awards night that comes up Friday, December the fourth make sure you make your ticket plans to join us for some NASCAR racing as we wind up the nineteen ninety eight season as we head over these final nine races from here till early November. It's got a quick update from the garage, and Marty Schneider. Well, first of all, Robert Pressley is okay. They are going to transport him to local hospital. However, he got out of the ambulance when he came to the infield care center wincing and a little bit of pain from his right shoulder. They are not sure if it's broken they're gonna take him to the hospital for some x rays to check Robert out. He's fine. Just a little bit of pain in shoulder. They are going to take him to a local hospital while they've got the cleaner. Cleanup or completed out on the backs rich. I believe they've just been given the indication one lap and we'll go back to green flag racing with rusty Wallace setting the pace here in the early going. Don't you know rushed? He's got a little fire in his his in his eye when he came in here. He's on a mission tonight. He feels like he can win this race. He's been so good here over the years, particularly on this new three-quarter configuration that they made the racetrack to in nineteen eighty nine through now, and he's had more than his share success. He just loves this racetrack and rusty has finished I fifth and third the last three events here at Richmond. Again, fifty three races since he's been victory lane a year ago March March ninety seven at this race track. The last time rusty is one race, especially after the way they started off this season running. So well who thought he did not one yet? Green flag goes in the air rusty set sail for turn number one right behind him. Jeff Burton Jeff, Gordon as they worked into the corner. Ken Schrader, Bobby Hamilton make up the top five. They get at it off turn to. Rickie rod in the mix as well. Trying to get one of his laps down. He works for the inside of the race track. Rusty will clear him now. Once Carson rusty in second place. Jeff Burton until app car. Rick mast is between place. Jeff Burton and third place. Jeff Gordon farther back side by side for a spot Kyle petty and Ted bus grave this be for the tenth position. Now. Both drivers haven't good runs in the early going must grave behind the wheel of the Caterpillar machine. Tonight must grave the banking. He's on the high side coming up off the corner while Kyle penny takes alone line on turnover. There get even racing for spot. Tilman running real good the last four or five races. They've got that team turned around here. The last part of the season. Also, they continue to ride side by side is at work off in turn number one. But it's rusty Wallace. Who leaves from the Richmond international raceway this MR in radio. The restrict to the road. Home Phillip would soon. Open the official you'll have NASCAR Sonoko mixed. High quality performance bills for the greatest drivers in the world both on and off the track. Whether you're pulling up to the pump or experiencing the excitement being up to track on race day. This will be four, thanks. I've already topped it up with Sonoko service complete second fan of fro fuel and he's out away from trust enough to be the fuel that teach you go capture the essence of racing and Philip with the official fuel of NASCAR Sinochem. O'reilly auto parts offers over awards points in store and online earn points on everything from replacement parts the tools and accessories. 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Single file shaved for the seventh position of the last laugh Todd Bodine down the inside of drag. Dale jarrett. He referred three rate run for I in the Eljay racing teams car they are carrying sponsorship tonight from the dare county, North Carolina. Tourism folks, the folks on the Outer Banks who are one to let everybody know that they're open for business just fine despite the summer storms of earlier this year couple of other cars with different paint. Schemes tonight, always have to get used to. When you come to a night race, Jerry Naidoo with a wild looking lime green color scheme for the Cartoon Network and Bill. Elliott's got a paint scheme celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of the Big Mac sandwich. Their theme for the night groovy. It's all a big banner right along the pit wall. At Elliott's right now hanging right in there in his car in sixteenth spot Elliott having pretty good run here. They'd let team turn around the last seven or eight races of the season go to victory lane. But a long time since he's been there. Here's rusty across the line back into one. Jeff Burton still hangs in there and second Jeff Gordon not showing all that much muscle in the early going. Although I know there is just a matter of time. He's being very patient kind of waiting for the field sort out a little bit hard, right? Is going on a little bit further back in the field back at about fourteenth fifteenth and sixteenth position back along. There is that whole pack goes over to Joe Maurer spot. At once back at sixty benefactor, traces, come leads chant little dive for the inside of dollars back and grabs that sixteenth spot. Given the page tries to follow chat little through underneath while the DAL and back there double wide about four rows deep there. Now three wide in the middle of the corner of the racetrack. Twi the pullback now before he loses four victory looked page. Does get by. Verney urban and John Andretti. Squeeze ability inside John try to work his way back in the front of the Piel having to make that that pitstop little bit earlier in the evening by himself way. Back toward the tail end the peel these picked up maybe eight or nine spots may be a few. Moore's he continues to work his way to the front for the moment. Nobody has anything for rusty Wallace. Here's rusty pins at right to the bottom of the racetrack. Then drifts out the wall. Turn number four. Jeff Burton has lost. Maybe a couple of car links to him as they work their way back in one, and Jeff Gordon has lost a little ground also to the second place machine. They're all turn to at least Burt at by one of the lap cars. Jeff Burke made the move by Rick mast of the last last so still with one car in about seven lakes between himself and race leader rusty Wallace change for fifth spot. Bobby Hamilton by Bobby the body in deter number three. So Hamilton in the Kodak car up to the number five spot the body falls back to sixth great rates for seven eight the night. Todd Bodine feeling pressure from Dale Jarrett who wants his spot back. Mark martin. Is there also squeezes to the end side? But thought oh. I will wash the wave coming up all turned over to to they'll stay in the same position thought bowdoin seven Dale Tarrant in aid to Mark Martin and ninety day Marquette a handful about three or four laps ago. We're going to talk about that he came flying off turnover. Four had such a head of steam couple of cars in front of him. Didn't get off the corner as well as he did he really cut that car hard left and almost turned it around keep from running into the rear couple of machines. But he'd kept it in the straight loud. He's got a strong racecar beginning to work his way to the front. Also rusty continues to lead lap sixty three about to go on the scoreboard as they worked their way back to the line. Here's Kenny Schrader and Bobby Hamilton going door to door as they worked their way off in turns one and two for the fourth position. They are Bobby Hamilton gets the advantage driving in from the outside lane. You'll pick off the spot of the Detroit over two straight or settles back in behind him in the fifth physician work their way up off of turn number four. Dow which trader dropping back spot so Hamilton's picked up to positions in the last three or four laps straw back a little bit now watch a race between. Ted bus grave and Kenny Wallace for position that'd be the eleventh and twelfth spots. Kenny try to find a way around Ted often turn one side by side coming into the corner getting honest monthly aside lane. Good runoff Turk. New so halfway down the back fadeaway, they'll settle back in mind. Now, you'll strike it. Any Wallace down to the inside tries to get underneath won't be able to make the move here at the straight away. And he's going to try it again and turn over one dives real low into the corner. Stands in the throttle. Hoping that car will stick off turn to sleaze is down the side of the racetrack. Ten must brave old just to the outside the track race on but the position of the back right away. Again Wallace has to get signed booth. Loved them gentlest way and right behind them. Tip of the captain Steve Grissom who started the race back in twenty four spot. He's got the Kodiak machine up to thirteenth position now through sixty six laps. Wallace and musk graves still door to door by side off turnover to on the back straightaway. Ten plus brave gets a little bit of raucous time off turnover. Do but one straw, all the back away hill, but actually give them no sound at one of his battle. He's a lot of success here at Richmond and lows this racetrack feels pretty good about it. Every time they come here. Whether you back in the old days when he ran the Bush car was very strong at this racetrack. Neither one of those two however are giving an age they stay door to door going through one and two, but it's about to change in the backstretch at bus gray is going to get by the position getting. Third player this battle if they should be about. He's a to Steve Grissom has fallen right now about a car link behind. This race is musk. Grape continues to hold off Kenny Wallace sixty eight laps complete rusty Wallace still leads he has led every lap. So far of the exi- four hundred. At Richmond international raceway. Jeff Burton starting to real rusty Wallace in just a little bit. He's now about seven or eight car lengths behind Wallace for the lead. Rusty has led all of the I seventy five laps. They're exiting to and headed for the backstretch cleared all the lap cars at separated them since the first part of the event. And now it's about seventy Jeff Burton after race leader resting Wallin busted comes out of turn number four takes the same line as he has all night long right out against the wall rides the wall down the front straightaway. Then Pinza card the bottom of the racetrack. But Burton is coming up. He's about three and a half colleagues behind their off to closeted. Even they come off the corner. Looking back to third-place battle shaping up. His well, Bobby Hamilton, his Jeff Gordon there. He's all over his fear and Kim trader place. The player in dispense. Mark Martin is picked up to positions in the last couple of laps. He moved around Dale Jarrett to pick up the eight spot. Now, he's moved around Todd Bodine to get seven. So Mark Martin beginning to roll as we look back ahead to that race for third. Once again, Jeff, Gordon has the position nice trap behind some lap traffic Britain mast and Ricky Rudd just a handle Gordon Chevrolet. Bobby Hamilton on his bumper. In Kent traders there as well as work through three. Bobby got a good strong racecar been watching him since they put him under green earlier in the evening. He's worked traffic real good burst wrong through the corners. Got a good. Hanley racecard take it. Hi, lo were every needs to he's putting the pressure on Gordon right now out of turn to both forced to go. Hi, this time to get one of those lap cars. They'll clear Rick mast as head down the backside away now fallen behind Ricky up at turn three and Bobby Hamilton continuing do apply some pressure to Jeff Gordon dives low off the corner off turn four to the stripe Hamilton inside Gordon outside Gordon will give way and Hamilton charges through and picks up the third position squeeze. The inside to get by has to immediately go. Hi, because he's approaching the last car you rod with Gordon settles on item. Traitor newspaper you like to watch Gordon race while he's leading the thing or whether he's running second or whether it's running where he is right now out on a lot of times gas starts putting the pressure on with whatever this early in the race. Not a thing to gain one way or another you dropped back one position. So he's not going to take a chance on wrinkle in that race car doesn't need to. That's racing smart. And of course, she got to think at this point of the season with circumstances being what they are a one hundred ninety nine point lead for Gordon. He may be at the point of the year where he has to pull back the reins just a little bit with Mark having the problem last week in not being right on top of him for the championship any longer. Maybe he has to even just slide. It a little more the conservative side here with nine races to go talk with Jeff about that some yesterday we'll play a little bit of that interview later ought for you at what he has to say might surprise you a little bit. But we just might be getting to that time of the year where he has to ease off it a little bit. Billy has to start thinking about the point situation. That's for sure. But not to take anything away from Bobby Hamilton now bobby's got a good race car and Bobby work demo- there kept the heat on him as for about. Ten or twelve laps. Finally got the spot away as he works his way off turnover too. They have now put eighty two laps on the storeboard, but for rusty Wallace. Well, the Enron between himself and Jeff Burton just about what it was vary anywhere from two to three car lakes as they crossed the line work their way back into one in very shortly that situation you talked about we came on the air about guys having to really watch the rear of the car about getting lapped. It's about to happen. He's going to catch the Taylor the field over and turned three wall starting to close in on some of the laugh traffic also look at back into field. Eleven place race me talk about early fifteen twenty minutes ago that is shaped up once again Ted bus brave getting Wallace Wallace taking shots at plus grave. Grissom's blooms on getting Wallace's. Well, that's not well to Cirque eight visits and Bill Elliott Chad little and Kevin the page not far behind them. As those cars come across the start finish line and head back. Deterred one let's watch Mark Martin and Bobby the body for second. Mark tried to take six spot away Mark against the of the outside of body of the moaning number two. But the cook it all the way up to the wall. Mark falls back in the bottle the body in three of four. They what Mark has really been carrying some speed off Turner before up here. He comes through that corner about as quick as anybody out there in a couple of times, he's almost run over some guys. He's that good getting off the turn might come into his favor in the final stages of this race if he can keep it dial in he's working on Bobby in the body. One more time in the backstretch races for the six position knows detail. This time has come to the end of the back straight away. We'll bonding goes wide. Lavar Mark tries to cut down low off toured for CAD quite get alongside had to us up a little more of the racetrack that he had room for. So he had to ease in behind. Bobby now doubt in one he gets the Ron underneath invest money. Sad last ten laps or so finally squeezes. Through the inside. You'll gain the spun off turn over to Mark Martin moves up to six at a very strong race car through the corners here at Richmond. Rusty Wallace leads. Jeff Burton Bobby Hamilton his third. Jeff Gordon's fourth grader sits fifth Bob in the body is just lost that spot and Mark Martin has moved up into six place dropping Bonnie back to seventh. Todd Bodine continues to ride in eighth position Dale Jarrett's ninth and Kyle pity makeup your top ten the lead is tightening up as they work lap traffic. Now, the leaders just put Wally DAL and back a lap down. Now. Rusty Wallace works to the inside of the day, Marcus car. Jeff Burton and Bobby Hamilton now of closed in within a couple of car lengths of rusty Wallace. Worked his way through the traffic. Now, the second place car of circuses has to the inside of get by as well looks back at. Flows. It he's back in the fourth plot for the Hamilton the biggest timber Dow for Burton they wanted this race goes on Bobby Hamilton seems to get stronger the longer he stays out there. He was right on his bumper. Just a moment ago talking about Jeff Burton now the lap. Traffic comes into play falls back. Just a little bit off turn two vertex higher line off turnover to look for the outside of rusty plays dot close enough to strike back at single file a carbon said rates. The fuck move three. Todd Bodine's just taken seven spot away from Bobby the body Sobota and continues to run solidly in the top ten in the early going of the race while Jeff Burton continues to stalk rusty Wallace for the lead back in one. Vice up about my side of the racetrack needs a twice their offered. To rusting Wallace price advant, thumbs up and Burke has to come out of it and fall back in line. But he's white uphold rear jacker processing this time. He's going to try at low coming off turn tournament. The four Burton gets a Fender alongside rusty. Rusty stands on hitting returnable one. He's gonna make him work for Jeff stands on it to gets the inside groove. They almost touch going through the corner. It's rusty behalf. Carl off turn to of the racetrack Burke to the low side alternative or two. He'll settle back in behind rusty Wallace. At the second spies big pack. A half a dozen lap cars just ahead for the leaders Burton's going to have to probably try get to rusty before. They catch that traffic. If you have any running room to make a move the lead for now Burton single file behind rusty back to one sales close and even closer to the pavement fielder. Fielder author number two. They both take summer minds Burke, fix woman fairly down inside mix of to the side in Berkeley. But go round the outside. This time didn't make it work on the inside. He's got a position on him coming off the corner, and again, he'll get a Fender up to just about halfway up in the door. Stays there's go to turn over one is going to make the pass off turn to bench. Greco? He's at the tail end of the field. Burt is they're up to the outside of rusty Wallace deady with a halfway down the back right away. Burt gets spotted burnt pre firstly change the night will come at the ninety four th lap rusty Wallace from the poll, let them all to this point. Now it is Jeff Burton outed fraud of rusty Wallace. Bobby Hamilton, Jeff, Gordon and Ken Schrader. Rusty wallace. And Jeff Burton are side by side for the race lead. Ben that way for three laps. Now, they're on the backstretch five back in corner sitting behind rusty's teammate Jeremy Mayfield he's blocking the high side of the race track. That's what Burt is is just trying to keep from going down for either one of those two as they race for the lead back in turn of won- Wallis again down to the inside. Boy, that's a dandy. Bobby Hamilton is there Jeff Gordon is air something's gonna give this handled the data inside. He's trying to make the move to the inside lane goes Hamilton alongside. Jeff Burton for second rusty Wallace backup. Jerry mayfield's fighting to try and stay on the lead lap. When Burton tried to overtake him off turn four couple of laps ago. Burton's car kind of pushed up off the quarter. There was some contact between Burton and Mayfield. Maybe Jeremy didn't care for so much. There was some contact back the other way and that set up the situation we have now may feel just it's fun of Jeff Burton Burton trying to hang onto the second spot the inside of Emma's, we're Bobby Hamilton moves. Slotting to the inside. Now, he's a big bet position. They want Bobbi Hamilton's car seems to get better as the race goes on Bobby is just moved up into the number two spot. Jeff Burton drops back to third has Gordon fourth and Kenny Schrader is fifth. Still dandy battle off turn two lane. Open inside of Jerry Mayfield is all of those cars to get a charge down the most side and picked off the positions rusty loss by Harley over a fast closing Bobby Hamilton red Bodine's gonna lap down Jeremy Mayfield. Now a lap down the leader Wallace up on the back deck now. The Dennis Setzer machine reached one hundred four laps. He tries to put sets or one down into the corner. Easily doesn't coming back off turnover to Wallace plant on the inside of the racetrack. Slashes Bidegain then spot got Jeff Burton outlined to close at a Bobby Hamilton, Danny rice from Gordon on back with kits all over him. Kenny's writers had a good strong car all evening long to kitties. Been able to stay up there in the top five for the most part is they work their way back into tournament. One Jim Phillips. What are we looking at for this first round of pitstops if it stays green? Roll around one hundred twenty five thirty somethings Carter and the good on a normal nine year. Richland anything hundred is good. This is really working good last night. Bush teens that could go hundred thirty laps with to update tonight could have a card one hundred twenty five land with the accounting for the smaller difference. The Winston Cup cars want a bigger carburetor than the Bush series cars do so they'll be using a little bit more fuel. Pour that on the flyer. One thing to will come into play. If we don't get a caution soon. Also, the fact that under the two quick yellows. We had back lab sixteen and thirty four the number of teams that were back in the field pitted. So you've got drivers like Sterling Marlin and Derek cope and Johnny Benson and Terry the body on a John Andretti who all had made pitstops and they're going to be able to go another thirty laps beyond that on fuel. If a caution were to come out between when the leaders pit. And when those other drivers have to stop that could really change the complexion of the race McVay. Difference kinnear. Also made an early pitstop. So we'll see how that plays out right now. Kenny Schrader is going to do a number on Jeff Gordon down in turn number one Schrader really shoves it in their right to the bottom of the racetrack. And they're racing off turnover to that'll be for fourth orcas Boxton behind the car. Dennis setzer. Full advantage. Ken Schrader takes advantage down the inside. Down the inside and he'll pick off the spot returned three now off turn four years. Bobby Hamilton cut and low on rusty Wallace going after the race lead Hamilton to the inside. We'll go cleanly by Wallace and take over the top spot into one flashes by down the end side now washes kind of light off the quarter gives musty look at our all to settle back in line in the second spot. Good hard racing going on as we approach. The first round of green flag pitstops Marcus just brings his car on pit road. For the moment. Let's pick up at scramble again back as the lead trio goes off into turnover. One Bobby Hamilton as we told you card just seems to get better the longer they run for the moment. He has an advantage of maybe four or five feet. Rusty Wallace a van just behind has his Jeff Bernie rides along in third Burton stepping out of line. Although now in three he'll go to the high side finding second spot back burden. Runs up the outside of rusty. Wallace. Off the corner has the Fender in there as they come to the stripe draws even with him just past the start finish line. And they'll go wheel the wheel to turn one bulls up even stronger. Hi side of the racetrack. Now to come back into second position, musty Hudson at sideline what is bandage Burton at the end of the railway you'll slide around and bit off the second resist head they Marcus completes his pitstop. He'll go back onto the racetrack. So with Bobby Hamilton rusty Wallace. Jeff Burton Ken Schrader, and Jeff Gordon will make up the top five six. We'll be Mark Martin Todd Bodine seven Dale Jarrett. Eight Kyle petty ninth and Bobby the body tint Steve Grissom, runs eleventh wealth is Kenny Irwin Chad little as thirteenth Kenny Wallace fourteenth. And Ted muss grave is fifty. Kevin the peach sixteenth Bill Elliott seventeenth, Jerry NATO. Eighteenth nineteenth is John Andretti and twentieth is Sterling Marlin, Johnny Vincent's twenty-first thirty urban twenty-second. Mike Skinner twenty-third Geoff Bodine twenty four and Jimmy Spencer. Twenty-fifth terry. The body is twenty six Jeff green twenty-seventh, Derek Twenty-eight, dick, trickle twenty-ninth and ward Burton thirtieth. Darah? Walter is thirty Michael Waltrip, thirty seconds Steve park. The last driver on the lead lap in thirty third position. Dennis. Setzer is a lap down in thirty fourth. Jeremy Mayfield, thirty fifth Brett bowed. I thirty six Wally and back. Thirty seventh day Marcus is now four laps down. After the green flag. Stop in thirty eighth with Rick mast and Ricky Rudd many laps down after time behind the wall. Earlier in the event, Robert Pressley retired probably event Joni Mitchell and Dale earnhardt's teams continue to work on their cars in the garage. And that's the field lab. One hundred fifteen Ted bus grave brings his car to pit road. Also in right now as Wally Dahlan back in the Budweiser machine. That's go down to Marty Schneider has been a little bit lose. But they've had a great run. They started pretty well. I've been Tonkin there. Poured into the park on little bit looser longer. They ran have tired. Might not upfront. Bobby Hamilton has a couple of car lengths on Jeff Burton. Rusty Wallace has fallen about five Carling's back in third spot. And the lead trio with a big pack of traffic up ahead of them. They'll be closing on quickly full. I have to deal with St. Mark's Pennzoil Chevrolet. That's a car said it just ahead of Michael Walters up there. Also, dick, trickle and Darrell Waltrip leader starting closing traffic now enter for and will complete one hundred and seventeen left's Bobby Hamilton the leader will when he crosses the line, which he does. Now works his way off indeterminable one. And here comes rusty. Wallace onto pit road. Rusty will give up the spot on the racetrack. Bring his car to the attention of his pit it all the way down to return to one and that pit road speed very slow go to take him a long time to get down. There seems like almost stopped as he heads down to Jim Phillips rusty Wallace. He just radio to the crews that tessies good before tires on. And I go to work side by side tires yard, bidding Vilbert. Jay's a right side tires down this way. Around the left side. And you're the pit out for lots of Lord Wallace. Cruise around on the left side, Jetta seventy six guilders biller born confide that away and we'll be back on the racetrack at Jeff did runaways Philly. Not dial has a Jack up on the right side, Mikey. He started record L realm. Swing around the left side of the ball four tire. Stop four Jeff Barney called in Paul Dakota needed more forward. A good stopping over seventeen seconds Gandhi might Bill four fires off on the tide. Four Ricky Rudd off number Land Day or tear rolls down. Dale Jarrett in those the workflow the Whiteside. We're gonna make a track or just but on Dale terrorists car. That's win cigarettes weather goal. The white Todd tires are going on. They back up sold. The car is tight. Jerry. It's gone thought. Choirs going on your breaks to Bobby Hamilton, Ed Jeff, Gordon, White behind what one twenty with they stopped going on bail Jerry away. It's routine for Bobby Hamilton out of the left side. Gordon gets a chance you just but with track bar report cards rutta Weston Kelly was Ken shredders he rolls. Stop in one of those calls Chevrolet crew, the crews, they bark off pumps the car one. Now how pit boat. Getting four fires of gasoline on this bar and now Martin. Marty Schneider heaven the paid within a moment ago. They're having a great run. They start at thirty eight mid thick fate BIC critical. With also him have an unusual problem. The cast pedals come loose and find the bar their critical role ahead of this one little sick. Right now awaiting for Kinnear when the come in and just a few moments. Mark Martin had given up the lead. He had taken a moment ago when everybody else pitted. He has now made his pitstop that should move Todd Bodine up into the number one position. Kenny Irwin who said pitted. Earlier can stay out there while and that's the situation right now is all these stops are coming under green flag conditions. Also here comes John Andretti. And Chad little will bring his machine to the attention of his crew at left one hundred twenty three. Continue to have a cycling of pitstops under the green flag here at Richmond at lap number one hundred and twenty nine right now, Terry the body and Darrell Waltrip give up spots that were in the top ten for green flag trips to pit road. Here comes Jeff green is. Well, these drivers having stopped earlier under a caution at lap eighteen or left thirty six one of the two yellows we've had those far in the event Steve park. Also in Johnny Benson leads for the moment. Geoff Bodine is second Jimmy Spencer's third. Ward Burton is fourth. Michael Waltrip is fifth followed by Brett Bodine sixth. And then back to the cars that have been the top five for most of the race. Jeff Burton off pit road. I he seventh followed by rusty Wallace. Bobby Hamilton, Jeff, Gordon, Ken Schrader and Mark Martin got Dale Jarrett at Kevin LePage next in line. That's the way they came off pit road. But again, remember we've got a half dozen or so that are out there out of sequence with the leaders as far as their pitstops are conserved go back down to Marty Schneider. My now Kinnear within a little. Noah does with video. Oh done getting more Little Brown. One round on the track. Johnny Benson getting on the wall right now. John even later getting ready to come in Johnny Benson. We'll be on pit road in just a moment in via green flag. Stop most of the cars stopped under that. First caution flag as Alan told you but most of them stayed out there and pitted under green just a moment ago. Got some pretty good racist going on around the racetrack back in the Piel right now. Jeff, Gordon, Kant's raider Mark Martin in that pack that we're watching there along with Bobby Hamilton rusty Wallace, and Jeff Burton pretty much the same distance and interval give or take a few car links as it was before they pitted. Let's take a recap of those who lead under the exchange of pitstop says you're tracking championship points. Ken Schrader lead for lab. Mark. Martin gets five bonus points in the championship tonight. Todd Bodine led for a couple Kenny Irwin lead for lap. And now Johnny Benson out in front and it again, we'll cycle back around to Jeff Burton after the first five drivers make their pitstop Benson. Geoff Bodine, Jimmy Spencer. Ward Burton and Michael Waltrip. Are the guys that are out in front for the moment. Johnny Benson the leader goes back in her number one heads around the corner as we go to pit road. And the big loser that critics exchange. Pit work in my seventeen eighteen twenty seconds bugs. Which has a lot of fallen your help can older hither stop at twenty three point nine seconds to weight lost a lot of track position. Rob Todd all the way back to seventeenth spot in the running order for the moment. Joe Nemechek car spent some time behind the wall they have rebuilt it card on the best. They could after he got caught up in that big pile up over in the back straightaway. Earlier in the evening he is going back onto the racetrack. And as we watch him get back on the speedway. He's going to be what many out everybody else's at lap. One. Thirty six you can figure that one out to downs behind. Johnny benson. The leaders on pit road for stop tire. Johnny bench and their car with a little bit loose one round of wet into the carpet. Ghani Menton four tires. He's now down in a leg. Gives the top spot to Geoff Bodine, followed by Jimmy Spencer. Ward Burton and Michael Waltrip. Then you get back to Jeff Burton who will run fifth in the order for the moment rusty Wallace and Bobby Hamilton along with Jeff Gordon going at it pretty good for sixth. Seventh and eighth off to Bobby Hamilton to make the move on. Lusting Wallace come down the back straight away. Gort face to go wide force. That is to go wide getting around Jerry Dayton for three. So they pick up just about where they left off. Although it isn't for the lead. These three have been getting all evening long Schrader writers, not that far back there. Either Schrader should be back in about nine th position as they all work over to turn number to follow him around the racetrack. One more time handled the time to make move on rusty Wallace authors. Do he goes up to the high side of the track? Nearly his even rusty clocks the move. The turn three Amilton charging up to the top side off turnover. Four will put a Fender up alongside rusty Friday. Pull even with him down the front stretch. He's got the logger way around. But it gets even with him in one by five for the six positions. Just behind them. Jeff Thorpe, look at the scene, which lanes will open up ambled abso- the outside of this time milk, complete the fast. Get by rusting lawler's Bobby Hamilton continues to have good race car. They've done their homework. Well, remember they won at martinsville. Back in the first race up there in the season the short track race had a really good car there. And they felt like when they came here and go back to martinsville. And a couple of weeks, they'll be tough, and they're proving it tonight again this wing turn to has got to six position. Now rusty Wallace settles. He's got the seventh position. Jeff, gordon. Get trader about five parliaments back at night Burton is on pit road. He was one of the drivers that was out of sync with the leaders that leaves Geoff Bodine, Jimmy Spencer and Michael Waltrip out of the race track. Yet to visit pit road in this sequence of stops. They'll be followed. By Jeff Burton, Bobby Hamilton rusty Wallace. Jeff, Gordon, Ken Schrader, Mark Martin and Dale Jarrett. Those are the top ten drivers with a hundred forty one laps complete. Jeff Burton continues to build his lead in the middle stages of the Exide NASCAR batteries, four hundred two point three seconds. Now, he's added a full second to his advantage over the last seven or eight laps around this racetrack. It is Jeff Gordon in the runner up position with rusty Wallace about Ted Carling's behind him separated by lap car. Another lap car between Wallace and fourth place. Bobby the body and then fifth-place Kevin LePage sixth-place Bobby Hamilton that seventh-place Ken Schrader all run pretty close together with the lap car of tearing the body around them, Bobby the bodies had a good run at car seems to get better. Also as evening is going by bobby's benefactor in this thing almost since they put them under green earlier in the evening. We told you that Todd Bodine had gotten out of his race car. Let's see if we can get an update from Ardy Snyder there first of all say that Todd is okay. The just a little bit overheated. He's in the cash right now, gigging getting. An IV fluids trying to calm or cool down his body temperature. He was a little bit overheated in the race car. So decided to impeach himself from the car and put dick trickle in so taco dine. He's fine. Just getting a little bit cool down in the care center right now. Skip updates from pit row. Jeff Burton with a very strong race car at this point is well outed front. Let's see if we can get an update out of his pit cry started to coach the on the car's been caught on his laptop off of in talking to him about Jefferson running right now going to bright you guys look by some 'tatoes off. Thank it off. We've been actually we got a little bit air push that we didn't want it. It seems to be working right now. So maybe we'll we'll go down for the second half year. Wicky up a little bit changed air pushes around Battersea hick. They picked up in tonight object, proud of them. You know, Jeff doing a great town right at night. Definitely want to win. As thought batteries is a sponsor the event they made some changes early in the race. And then went back to the original setup and went back to the original air pressures, obviously is working out to their advantage as it crosses the start finish line now. And his advantage is just over about three seconds from Jeff Ford about separate himself from the rest of the Piel. That's just how good that car is for the moment. They done good pit work all night long and got him dialed in a car that has not been dialed in all that. Well, from what they normally run would be Dale Jarrett's machine. He hasn't been a factor up in the top five all evening long. I believe Jim Phillips has been down there. Jim. What are they saying? Todd is talking to his brother. Right talk and always tires strategy taught the top for four year a little bit behind on. What's boston? A little bit tight GM a graded up. Every stop beset got enough yet. Cricket up. I think so we'll make some big changes. This next victory is coming up for Jared tight in the center of the quarter all long they've been biking. The Justice lucky said but had did on his big yet. Next time. Look for major j still got plenty of time to get it done. We've got over what one hundred fifty laughs plus left one fifty five remaining in the ration- Dale Jarrett right now runs in the ninth position six and a half seconds behind leader. Jeff Burton we mentioned a couple of times. What a great run Kevin the pages having tonight. He's in the fifth position. Now, four point three seconds behind the front running car. This after starting the event back in thirty eighth spot. Believe Marty Schneider has made his way to the prime star teams bid noth- Metaxas. Run from thirty eight to fifth and believe it or not they have made absolutely no adjustments. Kevin the pages far, James, virtually Jane. Around this time. Well, so far the star towards pretty good. And it's really run run one lap since we've been here in. Fortunately, that was wall by get around by one hundred to go, let's say we tune it up Vinson what we got a little bit early. If they thought they could win this race. Even though there were thirty eight Becca we can win this race. They really believe heaven the paid a threat to win tonight. And right now, he's at threat to Bobby the bodies hold on four th position as Kevin closes in on the interstate car. Now, the body hug in the bottom lip page a little bit higher line through one and two. It's a good run this time off number two looks to the high side, but Bobby goes white up against the outside retaining wall. All good news fall back in line behind seven takes a look on the outside this time as they work their way through three and four doesn't have any running room there. And we'll tuck back in behind Bobby in the body and just trailing back in turn one a moment ago, pretty close call for Ted musk grave. He and Rick mast gut together here coming off turnover. Four both were able to keep their cars in a straight line. And but that could. A big pile couple of times a night like when Kyle petty went right between those guys down there. They've done some pretty big bullets on a couple of these crashes we've had very lucky for both of the front running cars. Jeff Burton and Jeff Gordon because they were on the high line just after the restart. Kyle was inside of them and what his car had that throttle hog. He went right between them and split them. The old perfect seven ten split. If it were bowling setup right up to the outside wall and both of them and the rest of the field for that matter got away cleanly a lot of great driving their her James inch. Kevin the pages crew chief Minson mentioned one more set of pit stops. If the race were to stay green through the conclusion of the event, we may find some pretty good pitch strategy played out there. And the winner of our first union pit strategy. Award may come from that set of stops for soon into donate five hundred dollars. Winston Cup racing wives. Auxiliary on behalf of the team of the most impressive pitch strategy in today's race for help the personal financial strategy. Visit your local first union officer, call eight hundred four one three seven eight nine eight. Jeff burton. To lead as he works his way through one and two. It's almost straightaway. Now, Joe more between himself and second-place. Jeff, Gordon, just keeps getting stronger and stronger we thought there was the race for second for while rusty Wallace closed, then some lot Jeff Lord. Without gordon. Start the pull away from Wallace in third and Wallace is falling back toward the clutches of Bobby Labonte. Kevin the page and Bobby Hamilton, those drivers running in the fourth fifth and sixth positions. Couple of lap cars door to door in front of the body, though what Steve Levada and the page from going at it. They've done that traffic to deal with the Bonnie falls on written racing was Chris there side by side in front of the body. And the bait just depends on how that lap. Traffic breaks up directly head of Bob in the body and Kevin LePage Ricky Rudd is in front of Bobby the body as they worked their way back into the corner. Steve Grissom as the other car up in a high line. Everybody slows up a little bit off turn to page. It's good run up off the corner. But again, there's a lap car sitting directly in front of him. As is the case for me body. So no one's going anywhere. Now, Kevin the page with the nose out in front of Bobby the body off the corner. But again, the double wide lap cars in front of him. Bobby going to try and follow the page around to the high side of Bobby the body, but everybody still in a big jam into the corner could go anywhere because Ricky Rudd and Steve Ray side by side. And now it starts to sort itself out bit road sleeps around goes at recipe. Probably the body dive voter Christopher back the past Bob of the body trying to protect his turf there to keep Kevin the page back. Bobby Hamilton's a factor in that. They all go back turn of one three cars get with the program as they work through over to turn to. Now in the fourth position works inside of the last traffic, Bobby Hamilton underneath them. They've got the page draft behind Steve bristle database drops out of pocket. Batik goes the inside plane to complete the pass show. Hamilton will take the fifth spot away from the page who falls back to six. Here comes Ken Schrader joining that races. Well, he and seven spot pulls up the outside of the page, but he'll find himself behind the Grissom lap machine on the high side and the race track. That is where shredder goes look page. Is it the favorite to the inside Lisa last few laughs? That's the one that's been moving. It does. Now Hamilton gets by style page goes after him Bobby Hamilton and the outside group get squeezed a little bit coming off the corner as Kevin the page gets offender underneath race evolve. Into turn one neither one gonna lift through that corner. Both cars stick, and they come off the turn side by side. This is the race for the fifth position at a side by side on the back straight away. Campbell the page underneath Bali able to there's no credit directly these two. It is the page down low slow. Lights up about a half a lane Hamilton with plenty of running room up to the top side gives Kevin enough racing room to stay door to door, and they are still wheel the wheel. Nobody with an advantage back to one to the inside of the racetrack. Twentieth. Runoff to drag race complete here at the end of the back. Straightaway knows that body, but the body rallies faculty outside late at three or two way through Thurs three and four come back down to the line. Bob in the body moves away out of that packet traffic that he was jammed up in there with Bobby Hamilton and Kevin the page just a moment ago. They settled down for the moment and two hundred sixty laps. Go up on the school board in the Exide four hundred. Jeff Burton continues to hold a pretty good lead. The Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred at Richmond. Not as good as it was before he's had to ease a little bit picking his way through some traffic. It's allow Jeff Gordon to chop about a second off the distance between the two but still one point six seconds is the differential between first and second now after two hundred and sixty eight laps running third is rusty Wallace. Bobby Hamilton for the moment is one out in the great race for fourth. And now Hamilton is caught rusty Wallace on the backstretch runoff turn to try to take that position rusty Wallace. Flawless powers back right away. It favorite rusted comes off the corner. Bobby Hamilton following thought he was going to dive in the inside for the moment. He'll just trailing back into turn one is a hit off into the corner down there. Hamilton running in fourth position for the moment. Get believe how good Jeff Burton's got that car. I tell you that team lately when they do get it, right? They are good. Remember Darlington last week where they led two hundred seventy three of three hundred sixty seven laps in the Pepsi. Southern five hundred didn't end up winning the race. But certainly had the dominant car for nearly all of the afternoon here again tonight Burton leading from lap bud while ran second basically for most of the first hundred laps of the race. Rusty Wallace led the I ninety three then he and Burton traded the lead for a little bit. Bobby Hamilton got up there and lead for wild. But ever since lapped one fifty when we finished in a cycle of pitstops. It's basically been Jeff Burton out in front. Jeff Gordon led for a couple of laps in there on a couple of occasions, but Burton has been the driver who's dominated the middle stages of this event on the other hand, we haven't talked a lot about Mark Martin and. On March benefactor up there as far as being in the top ten as a matter of fact, he is currently writing in tenth position he's had his problems here on a couple of occasions. He's looked like he was gonna move up to the front got up there and battled for what fourth fifth and sixth a few times. But that car still not getting around the racetrack. Like they wanted either. Not accustomed to what we're used to seeing from Mark Martin here in this nineteen ninety eight season to get intense spot right now third positions changed hands. Joe more Bobby Hamilton, Scott it now to complete the vast getting by rusty Wallace has started to get some real estate between himself and Walsall ready. Stretching out by couple of Carlex just beginning to spread out. Just a little bit right now into this long green that we've had here. Two hundred seventy three laps. Go up on the scoreboard and four hundred will make up the event here at Richmond the night one hundred and twenty seven laps remain in this one. They're chasing. Jeff Burton haven't talked a lot about kitties Reiter. He's had a pretty good run here tonight. And I believe Winston Kelly has been down in his pit Winston hadn't had to make a whole lot of changes to the coast. If we can ease up here and get a comment for Mandy patriot. He wants to drive or come around. He's going to try to get around Bob in the body. And he might have you slide with early all at the call right now. Pretty solid all nine of her block the pissed off about block lick like dream. You're going to have a good job again. Longer could win win wig mecca last bits off look like around ring. That's the thought for Mandy patriots team motor encroaching on his cO Chevrolet. He just one around Bob in the body and picked up another swat up to the six position. The car was just a touch tied earlier on they made a slight test. It doesn't as he said when they pitted. The last time they were behind Channing walls and had to swing or ram hitting couldn't get out and five to that cost him a number of possession against freighter. Dow up to the six position on the race track as the fourth spot changes hands. Kevin the page goes after rusty Wallace and gets that position away. So the page pick it up his spot. And now rusty may face a challenge from Ken Schrader in the next couple of laps. Let's check back on pit road. Rusty Wallace car is still loose alad. Rod in the middle of the party tried to change his light around the racetrack. Try to run a little bit higher up. All the old Gert trucks have to call it a cushion to product up just a little bit higher until the car return. But better Bobby habit for acted towards the rock. Talk to Charlie Preston past about his car right now. Johnny Gordon good right now. What quasi say about the call? It's not saying whole lot right now. He's been happy with it. All I know just sonar or anything not. Support job said up good in the long run about that last bit stop. Well, we got blocked in a little bit their card front of just we didn't get the car states. Just. Let Charlie president for Bob ahead of his lip behind on that last pit stop with his head. But he's played up a lot of ground since the last brief Legua running in third position. Now, four point eight seconds behind the leader heard a moment ago discussion of Jim Phillips talking about rusty Wallace in a little dirt track analogy, let's elaborate on that a little more this race track had a seal replied to before the June race here. And as that sealer has worn off what you get or two different sections of race track. One where the sealer is worn off in one where the sealer still is which generally tends to be the higher line or the sealer is still more present than it is right at the bottom of the speedway. And Jeff Gordon says that as that sealer continues to wear throughout the race, the track conditions change in chains and change just like if you're out there on a dirt track this sealer, you sorta wear it away down low and the group starts to move up as the race goes on. And you start to feel the car really sliding around on the bottom group. So you gotta start finding another group that works for you. Whatever you can do to to make the tires last as long as they can. And it seems like you'll see a lot of guys sort of go in low and carry the car up to the top and sort of get to the edge of that sealer words still it's between me and worn down, and and being fresh in a seems to there seems to really be some grip up there that you can find late in the race. So, you know, this is kind of like a no dirt track where you maybe one groups faster early in the race. And then you've got to start searching for your groove late in the race right now. A lot of drivers are searching higher and higher and higher on the speedway both into the racetrack. Is they looked for that place at their cars going to want to work a little bit better. Now, some of the cars working a little bit better higher. But been very impressed all evening at how. Well, they've been able to race door to door in both ends of the speedway. We've seen some good racing. Steve park is just made a pitstop. We'll go back onto the speedway. We should see most of the front runners coming in. I believe what they say about lap twenty or so there. And we're left to eighty three now so get just a little bit of time before we begin to see some of the pitstops change for position seventh and six spots. Bobby the body around rusty Wallace so kick rusty back to seventh. In fact, let's reset the field for you. Now as we close in on the three hundred clap it's Jeff Burton leading Jeff Gordon by one point four seconds. The Bobby Hamilton five point four seconds back in third. Kevin the page is not all that far behind Hamilton. At fourth Ken Schrader is fifth. Bobby the body six rusty Wallace, seventh good run for Kenny. Irwin in eighth. Ninth is Mark Martin. And Dale Jarrett his tenth John Andretti's eleventh. Mike Skinner twelfth Geoff Bodine is thirteenth. Jimmy Spencer's fourteenth earning urban fifteenth. Kenny Wallace is the final car on the lead lap in sixteen spot. Terry the bodies a lap down at seventeenth, Jeff green and eighteenth. Steve for some nineteen Chad little twentieth. Darrell Waltrip twenty-first and Jerry Naidoo twenty-second two laps down. Jeremy Mayfield in twenty-third. Michael Waltrip in twenty-fourth, Derek copen twenty-fifth Sterling Marlin in twenty-six and Ted bus grave in twenty-seven. Three laps down. Dennis Setzer in twenty eighth Brett Bodine in twenty ninth. Ward Burton and thirtieth Wally and back in thirty first and Todd Bodine's car with dick trickle now driving and thirty seconds spot. Running five laps down in thirty third is Dave Marcus Steve park in thirty fourth. Rick mast and Ricky Rudd been in the garage earlier in the event there now running thirty fifth and thirty six the number of laps down Kyle petty Bill Elliott Johnny Benson, dick, trickle and Robert Pressley out of the race Joni Mitchell and Dale Earnhardt back on the speedway. Both spending many laps behind the wall after being involved in a crash. Cash back at lap number thirty four. Let's pause ten seconds for station. Identification on 'em are in radio the voice of NASCAR racing. Rusty Wallace has been wrestling with his race car for the last several laps around. He brings it to pit road. Let's cover that stop. I had to buy good decision. It's not what they wanted to come in. They wanted to run at least two hundred but the good doing rusty. Rusty wanted. His losing to possessive is car was to lose you try to hire the right track victory goal on the right track and got away. Twenty seconds stuff for rusty Wallace's. And lead bay changed hands off turn to down the point awake, nor has caught. Jeff Burton wind up on the button looking for a way to squeeze vile the end size the up on him about three or four laps to go. And just sit there kind of looking outside and inside tried to make a move does. Again, coming off turn before. Jeff Burton will not let him get around. So for the moment just trails him back in turn of one two hundred ninety one laps or on the board. Jeff Burton, and Jeff Gordon continued race side by side for the lead Gordon has been underneath Burton a couple of times they've made some contact a couple of times. Still Burton hangs tough on the outside Burton has really had to hang that car out and make it as wide as it could a couple of times because Jeff has tried him on the outside. He's been able to get up there. He's tried him on the inside and been able to get along side this time he just has to train him off Turner before. Joe some hard nose racing between these two right now they worked their way back into turns three and four they're about to catch a whole bunch of traffic directly head. There's about four to six cars out in front of those two Burton again hose him off to get their way back into Turner one. And Jeff Gordon right now, really turning up the wick on. Jeff Burton making him us up that race car little bit. While Gordon just seems to be having fun. He is all over the back deck of Jeff Burton continuing to wrap on the back bumper while Kevin LePage, great run may have just come to an end the pages. Slow. Down the inside of the track of the back straightaway. Dropping off from the fourth position could be a problem there while the leaders continue to run for that top spot in lapped traffic now off too heavy traffic just ahead. Four cars. Some of those racing side by side scare Burton show at the way over Jeff Gordon. They start picking their way through the traffic. Now, they're gonna have to thread their way through that traffic Yvette or just kinda ride where they are until that next round bit stuff which would be coming up. Probably in the next twenty to twenty five. Let's go back into turnover. One as Kevin the pages brought his car to pit road Marty Schneider. Tire going down there looking under the underneath. In the car right now. Losing valuable time here we're actually to find a word that we're gonna make cuts but on the stop the person judgment of the night. But Kevin the Paik still sitting moving time something wrong with the right near this could be an actual problem there from looks like some of the diagnostic work. They're trying to do out on pit road. Find out shortly with the follow up rusty Wallace. After to the green flag. Stop trying to get one of a couple of laps back on the leaders. He's up underneath. Jeff Burton coming off turn four fresh rubber on that car sticking real well gets down and works his way back into tournament one at rusty flying. After he made that pitstop just a moment ago, they go over to turn to us to has that traffic deal with three cars sitting directly ahead. You'll choose the inside lane to flash by you'll pick off a spot for Kenny Wallace Jerry do while again, Jeff Gordon goes after Jeff Burton dives down low off of turn number four Burton high Gordon. Low Burton by foot at the stripe lap cars ahead of them now door to door deterrent one three hundred. Four complete lapped cars, whichever way they go will decide the situation off the corner Gordon's planted out of the side lane. Got the minimum off the core of the data Burt and the traffic is burden. They're going to have to split that traffic if they keep this door to door battle coming off the corner of the inside goes, Gordon. Jeff Burton goes right out against the wall. They worked their way back into turnover. One is Kevin the pages made the turn into the garage area. Jeff, Gordon, Jeff Burton door to door turn to just ahead. Getting want us to the outside as well. To side-by-side thoughts winding way around it takes the lead. So Gordon out in front now with Burton right behind him all over his back bumper it's a good distance back to Bobby Hamilton third. Four point two seconds, then behind Hamilton and other second half is Ken Schrader the fourth place driver. It straighter has almost two and a half seconds on Bobby the body who runs in fifth carrier with a six Mark Martin seventh. Dale Jarrett eighth. John Andretti is up to nine. Geoff Bodine rounds out the top ten at the moment. It's get an update on the Kevin LePage problem. That's put him back in the garage. Prime star team works feverishly on the rear end of the car. Kevin. What's wrong? Really hated. We had his prime star tours run it real good tonight. Really big had a chance of winning this thing. I don't know something in the rear end broker. Transmission guys did a great job a great car. It's just too bad. We didn't were at the end of show. I'm gonna put a new in gear in this part. They will get back out. But it looked like heaven the pay to get his first career top five. But that won't be the case tonight. Jeff, Gordon, est tussle the lead away from from Jeff Burton just a moment ago. Now Burton's going to try and work on it began as they all go over to turn three or through traffic a little better. That Burton is doing the stage of the race. He's got a lap carb's way the two of them, and we are close again to the point that will begin to see some of the leaders drop in for green flag stops three. Oh, nine complete now as Gordon and Burton head back return number one. Let's drop back into the pack a little bit give tip of the captain Kenny Irwin having a solid run tonight. He's in the six position right now after starting back in thirty six place. He's got plenty of company around him Mark Martin and Dale Jarrett right behind him. And they've been family for some time. As a matter of fact about fifteen laps to go. Mark March was alongside pity early by drove away for now. He's buried in traffic. Here comes Martin Jared again Jason down. He's got a little breathing room this time as it come off the corner one of the year ago when kitty had such a. Great run up here. Ran the truck. I think in ended up getting in the Cup car here brand David Blair machine, kind of his warm up to get into this Texaco Havilland four this year and started the race from the outside of the front row and had a great run finished in the eighth position. Then back in the June race here finish nine so two tries at Richmond and Winston Cup car for Kenny Irwin and two top ten finishes form if he's able to get third tonight. After starting that deep in the field, the thirty six spot really will be a credit to him. I remember I remember talking to him last year. How comfortably was running Richmond. I don't remember what racetrack and compared it to. But he said, you know, run a lot of tracks that feel a lot like Richmond, very, comfortable state way. Did have a good run. Go to pit road Guinea talks about Richmond because he likes it a lot feels like all fact day when he was driving a sprint car. They are very good. And you got mentioned that Mark Martin coastal Kenny pulled away they're better on the longer vaunt their little Lucienne right now Kinnear. These guys really think they can finish. Combine today. Mike Skinner's on pit road. Derek cope is on pit road. I believe Kenny Wallace on pit road. And this should be their final stops assuming this race would remain green. Jeremy may feel will make his final. Stop also at lap three hundred and thirteen. The leader Jeff Gordon along with Bobby Hamilton and others have been on pit road for their final stops. Lamp three nineteen is when Gordon came in because the pit lane brought to you by the McDonald's drive-thru for an update Jim Phillips at the rainbow. Warriors, get it done. They award four tires seventy six seventy point five seconds. It was contest between the Kodak Bobby cave out the high Gordon about three seconds to be Spencer should be the leader waiting on him to make his appearance on pit road here. Which would be a scheduled pitstop. Very shortly had some more stops in front of Winston Kelly can try to within nineteen point four seven seconds of good. Stop. Rose from seventy Crichton gasoline, Marty Schneider. That must grave in right now hitting Erwin came in a little while ago. They had their worst off in the night, and it was seventeen point nine seconds. These guys on the Texaco have been making great stop them in an air pressure. Just with the twin tighten up in here. When getting into the no after the cycle of stops. Jeff Gordon is just in front of Jeff Burton on the race track. Again, Jimmy Spencer's the leader. He's not made his pitstop yet dead. It's Gordon Burton second and third with rusty Wallace. Running in fourth at Bobby Hamilton v Ken Schrader is six and until Spencer stops. He's the last car on the same lap with the race leader. So Spencer across the stripe continues to hold onto the number one position in the team. Winston car this Spencer's backup machine after a crash in the final moments of happy hour having a good run with it right now the evening. Yeah. Timmy, had more than his share problems here today when the car got into the wall just about literally wiped it out. They did go to the backup car is given that machine the back of machine good ride as he crosses the line and works his way back in. To the corner. Boy he'd left see caution right now. The absolutely would right now. Here's a challenge for what will be the lead once Spencer pits. Jeff Burton under Jeff Gordon off turn four to the start finish line Burton draws even with Gordon. He has the inside line going into one Gordon tries to hang tough on the outside Chevy side by side to battle alternative or to know traffic come into play Burton as the advantages time coming down the back straightaway race awfully close coming into turn threes they come door to door through. Both is the speedway is Burton this time by just about a car length is the line the touch a little bit when they came off for my little contact there. And again, the factor that we talked about earlier lap traffic directly ahead of a flock of about five or six cars. They're both going to have to work through over intern turn three or now they run single file halfway down the back straightaway. Burton's Carly advantage over Jeff Gordon, and he spent circuiting us to hold the lead. Not yet having come to pit road for what would be his final stop where it left three twenty-seven now with seventy three to go. We've had at this point nineteen lead changes among eleven drivers. Five caution flags in the race. Most of the first one hundred laps were led by rusty Wallace. Who started on the pole he led from lap? One lap ninety three then Jeff Burton took over in the center section of the race in dominated much of the next hundred laps than Jeff Gordon got up with him. And those drivers put on a whale of a race for the lead back and forth between the two in the third hundred laps of this event from two hundred three hundred now after the cycle of what should be the final stops. It is again Burton and Gordon the top two as we work now with seven cars on the lead lap dome more we'll get back there. Once Jimmy Spencer does pit only five drivers out of the event. Robert Pressley crashed lap thirty-three dick trickle with a crash at lap. One. Forty-three Bill Elliott and Johnny Benson. Lost engines at lap one ninety one ninety four respectively. Kyle petty had the throttle stick on his machine and he crashed at number two hundred and fifteen Dale Earnhardt Joni Mitchell spent time. Find the walls. Got a problem with the back straight away. Dale earnhardt's car has come to rest just at the entrance of third. Number three. It's slow coming off her two and now has stopped. Just at the end to the tracks caution is on the speedway yellow flag will come out on this race for the moment. Again, Dale earnhardt's car has stalled in the back straightaway. We're update again back to Joe more. He's refired today. Stop there for few moments Causton comes out and now Earnhardt fires up his Chevy drives away. So the yellow flag will slow this race for its six time in the running of the event, and we were about to tell you that our mid race update was brought to you by chase authentic authentic trackside apparel of NASCAR. What into a Dale Earnhardt? Jeff, gordon. Bobby and Terry the body rusty Wallace. And Dale Jarrett have in common it's chase authentic casualwear attract side apparel that the drivers wear. Get in the chase at trackside department stores and NASCAR specialty stores your big break for Jimmy Spencer. Here. He comes down pit road. Now, Spencer, the leader at lap number three hundred and thirty one and it all. Also will set us up one of those situations where we're going to have a lot of guys on the tail end of the lead lap. When we go back racing. And the two leaders are going to be well deep in the field. I let's follow the stop for Jimmy Spencer. He comes to the attention of the Travis Carter team now in front of Jim Phillips this. Also, Greg for rusty Wallace who had to pit really earlier that secrets at times lap to eighty nine. They were going to have a big advantage of the tires for rusty Wallace. This give him a chance to get new tire. This car that he'll have vowed seventy left to chase down the leader. You're park Martin back in Bobby Labonte heated like that set of tires on his car. He's back to the pits of big breaker Spitzer, a big breaker Wallace euro this sequence and Mark Martin and Bobby the body. Both are on pit road down in front of Jim Phillips getting service and they'll go back out of the race track. This caution came out just a moment ago. We are now at lap three hundred and thirty two that's going to give a sixty eight to go. Let's see who else is coming onto pit road. Believe Dale Jarrett's coming off the banking up in turns three and four. He will come into the pits. Sterling, Marlin is in Ricky Rudd comes back in here is Mike Skinner in Steve Grissom comes back in these stops being made here under caution. Let's go down to Marty Schneider. Terry Labonte is in. Well as Steve Mark. And a couple of other guys. A lot of guys are in front of Winston Kelly. Several of these drivers. Now just getting four tires and gasoline mardi these guys who are a least Lapper down among those Ricky Rudd polls away. Kenny Wallace had just called in reported that he thought he had a tire going down or something. He wasn't sure exactly what it was. They held him out there until the caution came out they saw the Dale earnhardt's car at slowed. Kenny Wallace on pit road. Mike Skinner Steve Grissom hall getting four tires and gasoline stock about the strategy ramifications of some of these pitstops here for Mark Martin and rusty Wallace and Bobby the body they were on the lead lap. So they're going to have much fresher tires than Jeff Burton, and Jeff Gordon or maybe fifth. What the let's see when they stopped to your back at three sixteen. So they're going to have a good fifteen laps fresher tires than the leaders. Dale Jarrett gave up a spot on the tail end of the lead lap to get fresher tires. So I guess he's figuring that he's going to need that fresher rubber than Gordon and Burton to be able to. To get away from them. You know, he'll pull up on the on the lap down cars. I guess he's figuring. He's going to have to try and get away unless he had some sort of problem. Because now he's going to be a lap down in kind of well back in the field while everybody may be thinking the same thing as strong as Jeff Burton, and Jeff Gordon have been all night. They're going to need some common advantage. Let's go to pit road. Let's talk to Robin Pemberton big break there for your oven Pemberton. Well, we're we're okay tonight with cut down to right front tires, which we don't aren't really do here. And you know, we had an extra thirty forty laps on our tires and everybody did, you know? So we decided we needed a bit the fresh stuff on try to go the rest of the way and get the spots back a little bit Lucy's last few sake. What's what do you do to try to tied him up? We'll tighten it up once during the night. And it didn't seem run any better matter of fact, a little better on the loose side. So that's the way it is right now. So let's Robin pivoted. They're going to have fresher tyres another guy that helped out and that sick with God. That did not pit was Bobby Hamilton. We've lost about three seconds on that. Pitstop awhile ago. So that gives him a chance to catch back up and see what he's got against Gordon and Burton Paul lot of things going to play out in the final thirty five or actually the final sixty five laps here at Richmond. Jeff burton. Jeff, gordon. Bobby Hamilton, Ken Schrader and Jimmy Spencer make up your top five back at Richmond international raceway. We're just about cleaned up from the sixth caution of the race. In fact, field to get the signal one to go when they come to the start finish line. Now going to have one of those jumbled up restart orders here. Let's set things for you. We have eleven cars on the lead lap. But three of them are on the tail end of the lead lap between. Jeff, Burton and the pace car Burton leads. Jeff, Gordon is second. Bobby Hamilton, third Ken Schrader fourth and Jimmy Spencer v with rusty Wallace. Mark Martin and Bobby the body running six seventh and eighth. Kenny Irwin, John Andretti, and Geoff Bodine are on the tail end of the lead lap in front of Jeff Burton behind the pace car as we get ready for the restart Ernie urban is the first car lapped down in twelfth. Dale Jared is a lap down in thirteenth. Followed by Mike Skinner and Kenny Wallace in fourteenth and fifteenth. Those two drivers also will app down. But you're going to have kind of a big nod of traffic in front of Jeff Burton because you've got John Andretti and Ernie Irvine going to occupy the inside and outside of the front row in front of Burton, and then Geoff Bodine on the outside in front of Jeff Burton plus a couple of other cars in line. So basically Burton's going to be third and the outside row. What was somewhat clear what you're saying? Is man this is going to be one mad scramble when dropped the green. For those guys to stay on the lead lap and everybody else to get gone. Green flag goes in the air as they haul it down to turn to one Kinnear. When the first car to take it to the corner. He's one of those cars on the tail end of the lead lap the leader. Jeff Burton, Jeff, Gordon and Bobby Hamilton really boxed in off turn to hurt and has five cars directly in front of him. As he exits number two. What are the means? A lot. Graham Burke, which f green had a big wiggle up underneath Jeff Burton in the middle of three or four everybody gets away. Okay. Burton tries to follow Ernie urban around the outside of greens car back to one once again picking his way through the heavy traffic. Jeff Burton behi- side right behind Ernie Irvan to the outside of Jeff green, Gordon behind him comes Bobby Hamilton entails. Again, those three cars that are on the tail end of the lead left still able to stay ahead as they work their way back into the corner. Jeff Burton still boxed in Jeff Gordon. Nowhere to go. He can't get down to the inside. There's cars there. Neither can Burton is a real nod off turn to Vert von against the outside lane to get by earning Irvine. But now he's got the car of Geoff Bodine's, but sitting directly in front of no way to make them blue. Meanwhile, Ford, Jeff. Green. They'll Jared is pinned well back in traffic. So giving up that spot for tires there may not be paying off for Dale. He's thirteenth, but he's mired behind a number of cars. He's about fourteenth fifteenth in line. Here's a shot at the lead for Jeff Gordon looked underneath. Jeff Burton Burt pitch for the high side of the racetrack north dive down low to the outside. Goes back a good move right to the bottom of the racetrack didn't have much room to do it. But he pulled it off. And now, Jeff Gordon leads them back to turn over one. Jeff Burton is mired in behind a couple of cars as they get back down into number one a big break there for Bobby Hamilton and Jimmy Spencer. They were able to stay up there simply because everybody was held up by the traffic of in front of the front. Two leaders. They're back in Turkey, Greece. Spitzer's gonna win particular races. They work perk for getting physical between some of the lap cars in the race leader earning urban kind of bumped Geoff Bodine up in front of Jeff Burton. That's what had Burton forced to check up and let Jeff Gordon by. Now, Gordon is bit into the back of earning urban or following Ernie Irvan down the back straightaway. Burton still working on the car. They'll be in. How about getting five deathblow died. Zanele Jeff, Gordon, Gordon got it. Hooked up though, he comes way out against the wall. This time proving that car will run as high as he needs to unless he gets way up in the marvel stuff as they go through the corner Ernie urban giving him a fit right now. Turn to us to or side-by-side. Jeff Gordon trying to do away with thirty to heal the back straightaway. Still side, of course, back in traffic cars bounce off each other. Everybody's so close Mark Martin sideways off the quarter nips the back of Dale Jarrett's car. Jarrett, spins down into the trial will grass around what's twice three times. No caution yet, the racetrack is clear nobody else's crashed. We stay under the green flag and change from the lead of the facts right away. Jeff Pinkus by Jeff Gordon, he'll race back. The caution flag caution is now being displayed to the field as they come across the line. But Jeff Burton will bring him down and take the lead as again Dale Jarrett really took a long spinning ride here in the front straightaway. When around the tell you the. Dozen of the big bullet right there because he was right up in the middle of the racetrack. Nobody really made that much of a solid contact. And he skidded all the way down to turn one looked like Mark Martin might have got bumped by somebody because Mark all of a sudden got pushed up the race track. And his right front connected with Jarrett's left rear sent Dale for a slide down off the trial will part of the race track. The curved front stretch into the grass he did three three sixties and kept going. And now is the field comes to the opening of pit road. Here comes leader. Jeff Burton second place. Jeff, Gordon, Bobby Hamilton. Mark Martin Ken Schrader all those drivers to pit staying on the race track. We'll be Jimmy Spencer and rusty Wallace. So Spencer will take over the race lead. Is Burton comes to pit road in front of Winston Kelly and a crew working on the right side of the car. They're not going to make any adjustments had a little bit of a radio problem earlier, but they can hear him just fine. Now just in front of a can't try to the skull Chevrolet and four tire Seventy-six rice in gasoline for both of these drivers. Now, jeff. In front of him and the rival borders around the left side. They're taking left side tires right now. No gasoline. Bobby Hamilton, dry out. Mark Martin has already been in got tires. Jeff, Gordon is down. He's going to be Bobby Hamilton out. Point nine seconds. Jotted ready said he's going to get four tars and he'd be back. Oh the racetrack. Kenny urban will bring his car to pit road. Now. Three of the front runners stayed on the race track. Jimmy, Spencer stayed out there so did rusty Wallace. And so did Bobby Labonte. I don't believe he came into the pits either. So those three stay on the speedway the other front runners made a pitstop the Bonnie having stopped under that last caution just a little bit ago as well as Spencer in rusty Wallace. Mark Martin obviously involved in the contact with Jarrett. The reason why he came down the pit lane. So caution flags jumbling up the running order here. Spencer goes out in front and lap number three hundred and forty nine as he rusty Wallace. And Bobby the body stay on the race track. Mark Martin will come out next in line. He'll be fourth followed by Jeff Burton and fifth. Jeff, Gordon and six Bobby Hamilton, seventh Ken Schrader eighth John Andretti nine Kenny Irwin tenth. And it looks like they'll journey. Irvine is going to be on the tail end of the lead lap now. And he'll be in the. Eleven spot the first car behind the pace car. Let's let's document the when the caution came out what Irwin Andretti were in front of the leader at that point. So they came back around, and and we're able to catch back up. And Dale Jarrett comes back onto pit road. Let's get an update there from Jim Phillips, and it was routine for Jerry. Of course, he spun Bharti probably flat spotted he's tired. But he did come in the of tires. Let's talk to Ray just Bennett Ray chose to come in to pinch. This time. Would just fitted with the laps left. And there's some guys behind us that had four tires on just weren't sure. So we decided to come on in take for how's your car right now. Well, it's not bad on long run. But this down to short run. So we needed to get it in here. Get some fires on tragedy. That's the Ray ever drew cheer for Jeff Gordon ahead of make a decision and by decision coming at forty tires tail. Almost every time we come to Richmond where we have a situation like this right now toward the in the race sometime in the final fifty forty thirty laps or via caution or the situation that changed the whole complexion somebody'll pit somebody won't pit. We see these kind of strategy plays made regularly here at Richmond ended his happening again here tonight be one more lap before we go green when they get back to the start finish line. Let's take a minute. Follow up on a new story that has played out here this week at Richmond NASCAR announcing yesterday that they had completed the tests on the tires on the Jeff Gordon Mark Martin cars, they impounded after New Hampshire race sent off to an independent lab to have analyzed Mike Helton. Nascar's vice president of competition says the findings are that the tires were perfectly legal. There had been no altering to them. We have exhausted all the tests that we know and which included an independent lab tests to the chemistry of the tires, and they have found nothing different from the. The six and the twenty four cars as compared against a a new tire that came out of the Goodyear inventory that we took and and held in custody along with analysis of the chemicals or some of the chemicals that could have been questionable as to whether or not to have been added all of that went to an independent lab. It was examined and they determined that. None no outside chemical was applied to any of the tires that we send up there. And they all match the tires that came off of a good your truck so tire gate as it's come to be called by some of the reporters is over. And it was made perfectly clear, but the good engineers that there is no such thing as something you can put on a tire that would not be detectable if they used it. It would be detected. We're ready to go back to green. And maybe settle it here at Richmond and three fifty one they make that three fifty two. They take off returnable one Jimmy Spencer leads down to the corner. All boy, it's going to get cata tickly show with air off turn twos. Vets are asked to pick his way through traffic now. So the outside of sterling ball, and he goes now he's blocked in behind. Rear begging, your invert. Pre Ernie urban is on the tail end of the lead lap. It is going to fight hard to stay in front of Jimmy Spencer it Spencer in rusty Wallace. Bobby the body and Mark Martin. Jeff Burton the top five in heavy traffic, Spencer and rusty Wallace nose to tail the outside lane. Both trying to get their way by Ernie urban down the right away here Spencer. Duty he'll plots or you're not going to give him any ground. He is still on the tail of the lead. Lap steel would have a chance to win this race. Be get another caution to get himself back around there. Spencer now against himself boxed in three deep down in Turner, one just expect somebody to turn around and get into the wall. Every time they go through their they're hitting three scattering this mixes wail he's trying to get back. Five clincher walk through the outside enter at behind the urban skin running in twelve spot if he can stay in front of Spencer or alongside of him. He'll be on the tail end of the lead lab rusty Wallace. Bobby the body double wide. Jeff burton. They're now all in a big bunch bopping bumpers coming up off the corner of the car's getting together to slightly now straightening out of the back straight away to the Jenner rusty Wallace. Jeff just behind forty four laps to go here at Richmond getting kinda hot at the front of the field. Jimmy Spencer continues to hold off everyone. He's having to race the cars that are trying to stay up there on the lead lap. In addition to rusty Wallace and Bobby Labonte who rides second third. They're heading down. The backs Ray comes Mike scattered Al peeling down to the end side of Jimmy Spencer. Race there. Jeff Burton Burton went three wide last time off four around Bobby the body and rusty Wallace for second. Now, he goes after Jimmy Spencer for the lead Spencer moves down to block gets up alongside earning Ervin in one Bedser to the inside of her and era now Jeff Burton has nowhere to go unless he thinks about making it three wide. He does all the way to the bottom of the race track. Now rusty Wallace Burton. Wannacry frey. Jeff Burton Burton. Keep an a straight line. We'll go on around the racetrack. But he's going to lose a little round as they get back into turnover. One. I'll tell you what if they don't wanna hall end up in a wall the way they're racy is going to be a miracle the spa Burton's car really almost got away from him down and turn one. Let's see if he's okay. Going into three he had his hands full again. Just ahead. Just behind to be bitter bitter continues working on earth. Got an straight line of seem to be having that much problem with it as they go back to turn a one as a racing gets periods here Richmond and the closing laps. Forty one to go Spencer again takes off to dive down on the inside of her to try to get by. Meanwhile, Jeff, Gordon completes the passive plus Wallace. He'll go down to the third position. Jeff Burton is running all over the back bumper of Jimmy Spencer, the race leader's Spencer. Still try to put Ernie urban a lap down nose detail now first and second Jeff Gordon now right in the mix rusty Wallace, Bobby the body and more art climbs the bag nico- after Jimmy Spencer Spencer has the inside lane. Again, Ernie serve at the split. In the big fear. There side by side for the lead behinds. Dr Ernie urban Jimmy Spencer is not about to give up at inside grew a couple of times. Jeff Burton had a notch on him. Now, they're going to double team him down and turn to one to the bottom of the race track. Goes Jeff Gordon to the outside goes Jeff Burton. How's it going to play? Out there off turn to goes to the lead falls at behind a year. But now drops down the inside proof of thank the top spot. Jeff, Gordon, go after Jimmy Spencer. That's race for second of the best racing of the season on folding here tonight in Richmond Burton buy into the top spot. Thirty eight laps to go. Jeff, Gordon will try to follow him around Jimmy Spencer. He does Spencer tried to depend third from Bobby the body in rusty Wallace. Burt finally clears earlier but gets around that car now urban Senate between Burton and Jeff Gordon probably the body loops around the back straightaway. Hits the outside retaining wall. Now rolls down the Bankin. Jeremy Mayfield hits the brakes. Steve told the brakes. Everybody recklessly gets by auction is on the speedway. The yellow flag is displayed as Bobby the body slam the rear into that car into the wall in front of Joe Moore, and he has shorten it by three or four feet back to job origin, earn three term the car sideways. Barney coming down the back straightaway before they set up for the entrance of turned number three. He got a little tap. And it looked like it might come from rusty Wallace. The car turned sideways, he tried to recover, but he was a high speed and back the car into the outside wall here at three hard crash for Bobby the buddy brings out the yellow flag for the time in the Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred. Back at Richmond international raceway cleanup continuing after a hard crash involving Bobby Labadie his car into the wall in turn over three after Sipa parrot contact on the back straightaway. With a couple of other machines Marty Snider is down in the vicinity of the interstate battery team's hauler will try and get a word from Bobby as soon as it is possible right now thirty four to go field gonna get the signal in one more lap. Go back. Green flag racing. I believe they're not gonna give it this time to dumped a lot of oil dry down the front stretch here. So they're going to take a couple of more laps in run through it. Ten cars on the lead lap as we close in on the checkers wanna flip a coin as to who's going to win this one not on your life. This is tell you. This has been some of the best racing. We've seen all season. Really? They've been hill at it. Hot and heavy all night long with the exception of while. Even when Jeff Burton had that big lead at one point in the race for third fourth and fifth fans here tonight of really gotten their nickel's worth out of this one. Yeah, they've got their money's worth in this. When it may. Well, yet get double their money's worth in the final. Thirty three laps here at Richmond. Jeff Burton currently leads. Jeff, Gordon is second KENNY'S raiders third. Jimmy Spencer is fourth John Andretti's head a Hickman afternoon. He currently sits in fifth while we get a quick report from the garage bobbing. The Monte surveys, the damage of the interstate batteries Pontiac, and what happened Bobby wanna know. Maybe somebody was trying to little faster Noah's, but you know, wait, a good run tonight. Thank all the guys at a great race car in Saturday nine rice, man, Bobby obviously philosophical about the accident that happened very heavy damage, and they're loading this thing up on Hallman. He did a lot, you know. You know, he's he's been in his sheriff scraps over the years. I'm sure he's been on the, you know, thins the end of being the one that made the mistake as well. And knows that it obviously wasn't anything intentional tarred wreck on a straightaway. And you know, but it wasn't anything intentional. And certainly, you know, that's the way it goes to bad, bad luck tonight. They'll have to try again next time. So Jeff Burton going to try and win this Jeff Gordon has served notice that he's as good as their is out there because he's taken the lead on several occasions kipnes raider don't county about Kenny has been looking for his win been a long time since he's been victory lane out of his anybody out there anymore hungry or has an appetite to win. I would say more than he does Jimmy Spencer. Now, you always take the leash off Spencer in the final apps and tie in your underwear and hang on so to speak against and John Andretti. Very much a factor in the top five rest of the lead lap cars. Kenny Irwin rusty Wallace. Mark Martin Bobby Hamilton and Mike Skinner who get back on the lead lap by being in front of Jeff Burton with that caution came out one lap before the restart depit road. Let's talk to Donnie Waco, Don, Jimmy Spencer, spite for every AT could get tonight. Yeah. You know is Dr Steph holy crashed at car identify. It's kind of this will pull up in new have pretty good. We've had a pretty good now though to say. These triumph. I'll tell you that for for tonight that's Dadi Waco kooky for Jimmy Smith. That'll be real interested in these final apps. There'll be thirty to go when they put them under green here. Just a moment. There about a half a lap away from a restart and Joe more you better get a good. Well, I think they've waived waves restart party alluded to much oil dry out there to send 'em racing right now they want to run through it. A couple of more laps. We'll take a quick minute. Remind you that the NASCAR goody's dash series. Returns to action that Saturday at the Louisville Motor Speedway and Kentucky the one hundred and twenty-five laugh event gets the green flag at eight thirty eastern time Robert Huffman of Claremont North Carolina continues to lead the series drivers championship standings, David Hutto, Ricky Bryant J Cobb. Good and BJ machi- round out the top five NASCAR goody's day series. Presented by goody's headache powders and tablets official pain reliever of NASCAR got a feeling some of these guys going to need some of that before the evening is over. Well, as they try to double up the start there about four wide on the race track. Right now. We've got one of those situations where we've got guys one lap down who want to get in front of some of the guys two laps down and guys on the tail end of the lead lap, and that kind of thing. So I'm not quite sure we're even going to get this one restarted at this point. But for the moment they are trying to sort it out on the back straightaway. Entities. Jeff Burton who will be the man out in front. In fact, I think for the first time in the last couple of restarts. He is going to be without any cars on the tail end of the lead lap in front of him. There will be Darrell Waltrip down to his inside wall trips. The first car two laps down. Darrell with Steve Grissom behind him, then Jeff Bodine and Dale Jarrett who are one lap down. They will be next in line in one of the cars who was on the lead lap has just had to come to pit road. Al-nusra problem for Kenny urban is it came down the back straightaway. There was a lot of smoke pouring out of the white side of his car. And yes, he has made his way down pit road after running in the six pot. Let's bits will they have a problem with the right front vendor way gotten this earlier Khan. Contact. It is rubbed on the right front Italy. He laughed since he hit it a little while ago. Brought the tire role in one spot all the way around so Kenny urban Kinnear. One had a tire rub on the right foot. Fender. That's why to come back in the pits choice. So that would certainly didn't want to get a whole rubbed in that tire. And end up in the wall in the final stages. Twenty nine laps to go. There be twenty eight if they put them under green his time. We'll wait and see feel this forming up for the restart lights are out atop the pace car, and we should be getting the green when they come to the stripe this time so twenty eight to go in the race. Kenny Irwin stays on the lead lap back in tenth position as we're set to go. Jeff Burton on the gas it up through the gears as they come off the court or to the stripe. We're racing now Bert with about three car lengths he's opened up on Jeff Gordon and a couple of machines now between them you'll now get Darah Walter to settle in between himself. Jeff, Gordon, also Steve Grissom up there among the front players in the field here. Griss falls back bits of that car. Three, and I got a feeling. Some of these lap cars now are going to give the leaders some running room some racing room to kind of settle this one. Here. Burton takes them back. Turn number one. Jeff, Gordon piddling hard trying to get up. There is trying to work as way around the lap. Car of Darrell Waltrip now off turn to the leader. Birt's already got five Carling lead over Jeff Gordon, Gordon now just clearing Darryl Worley star. Racetrack is Ken Schrader gets around. The Darrell Waltrip machine is well off turnover four here comes Jimmy Spencer and John Andretti up to the outside of Steve Grissom, as they try and stay in contact with the front runners twenty-six to go all the lead cars have to take the high mind to clear themselves with some of the lap traffic Gordon now getting by also Ken Schrader make it his way by his Jimmy to the. He'll get by with John Andretti. And plus the wallet and rescue by the bit stop a moment ago. And a couple of judgments on the cars got a strong race car right now. But he's like everybody else. He's got frantic inside outside. No place to go just trying to sort it out. So he can get up there and be a player the leaders in the Baxter racy for fourth now. John treading on the move ESPN. P Pontiac dive underneath the list of Florida. Rusty Wallace three way battle burglary Spencer with the knows out in front awful of the quarter. O- Dale Jarrett around in the middle of turn four slides down to the bottom of the racetrack. So far harmless spin he comes up the racetrack. Terry the body. Just misses taken the back end off of Jarrett's Ford for the moment. No caution flag. Jared fires it up. Rolls away. We remain under the green flag Montiel had more than his share problems here tonight. He gets away goes back into turn one and comes up to racing speed in a hurry. This race will stay under green. There's still chasing. Jeff burton. Jeff, Gordon, a second KENNY'S raiders third John radius fourth. Let's follow them down the back straightaway. Say the fifth position as rusty. Wallace completes. The fast coming off number two. He gets by jiffy Spencer. Farkas all over Jimmy Spencer, Kirk board and Bobby Hamilton and Mike Skinner right behind Spencer is those drivers all race for positions. Martin clear Spencer now has to slice up in front of him to the high side of the race track. Try and get around the slower car Darrell Waltrip Mark goes high turnover to twice to complete the pass up off the corner. He will clear the Darrell wolves car and Barton falls into the fire. But the labs are winding down there'd be twenty one to go for leader. Jeff Burton, and Jeff Gordon now is a little better than a second behind as they worked their way back to turn over one Ken Schrader even further back off turn to single file coming up off the corner. Lot of distance point Burton, and Jeff Gordon about five car links gore back akin traders further back at the backers rusting Wallace going after park. Inside of three actually that's Martin just finishing the pass on rusty Wallace. Put Mark up to the fifth position. Rusty back to six now, Bobby Hamilton takes seven from Jimmy Spencer. Mike Skinner is all over Spencer's back deck in one center to the end side a complete the passing of off of her to Spitzer as a racing roof. They'll go side by side headed down this back right away. Advantage. Jimmy Spencer in that backup cars giving it a good ride. But in the final laps here the car just not making the turn stay at the bottom of the racetrack. And it's cost him a lot of positions. There are now. Nineteen laps to go for leader. Jeff Burton Jeff Gordon does he have enough time to run him down there. Back in three about ten. Garlic separates coming back into. Also, they go file Ken Schrader running at other five or so car links back from Jeff Gordon in third with John Andretti and Mark Martin quickly closing on shredder. Now is those drivers try to draw in we hit lap three eighty two. Drennan dive sampling inside of the racetrack chasing hit Schrader come on a ball tournament too. And he's beginning to close in with it to Carlex straighter Chevrolet return, please. Jeff Burton has had some good runs in recent weeks. He's had to settle for anything more than a victory. A couple of times though, he's I'm sure he's feeling like right now. Hey, it's my time to win. It's good as car has been in recent weeks, but you never count out. Jeff, Gordon, even though there are only seventeen laps remaining. He's a little better than one one tenth of a second behind him that go back to three with. I bought on back. Then trader has that position to John within a car like now. Jeff Burton tries to put Dale Jarrett. Another lap doubt. Jared slower having flat spotted those tires from the spin off turned four couple of minutes ago the race for third still closing even tighter. And traders there with John Andretti close to gone ham here. Spark barcode after Andretti tries to take the high line alternative or not able to complete the fasten east of the former of Andretti Sanni worked on Mark's car all night long have gotten a little bit better. Every time they went to pit road as he continues to work on John Andretti. He's still got plenty of time to get around. John and also get around Kenny Schrader and pick up a couple of more ten points or bitter in his chase to run down. Jeff, Gordon for the national championship. They go back to three race for the fourth position. Mark martin's. They're planning the high side of the track alongside John dreading draws up. Even now as they come off the corner Andretti puts about a half a length in front the shorter radius around the turn but Martin again pools even with them on the straightaway. This time knows. Out in front of him into one Mark bar and has the high side of the race track. And the advantage of this time getting by John Andretti. He'll pick off the position now we'll see what he can do. Third place. Ken schrader? Jeff, Gordon has made up maybe a couple of car links on leader. Jeff Burton that's about all he's been able to do kitties Reiter right now looks in that review mirror. He sees Mark Martin charging in on him and about to take third place away as they all worked their way off turn to Mark Barden following the tar tracks trainer for that working officer two on the back straight away. He against a tight enough with the car have the rear deck. Straighter Chevrolet is the race for third fourth and fifth while Jeff Gordon has chopped another car linked to so off Jeff Burton's advantage. But he is only got twelve laps to go in the race to see if he can catch them in pass in their into. Here's Jeff Burke work in the fall of the corner. He looks back sees a fast closing Jeff, Gordon. Meanwhile, Ken trader looks back. He's wanting third Mark Martin all over him back to turn green. And he's raiders having to make that race car. Awfully wide gets a little bit highs. He comes up through three and four. Mark takes a look tries to get a Fender underneath him. He's going to race him into turnover. One stands on it gets door to door with him may take the spot away off turn to the. On the inside of the race track alongside Ken Schrader Schrader takes way of the outside retaining wall. They nearly touch your halfway down the back straightaway. But trader has the advantage threes raider running high Martin running low racing for third position Schrader right now holds him off while Jeff Gordon continues to close in on Jeff Burton about five car links between the top two ten laps to go slower traffic. Jeff Beck's move on dick trickle drive in Eljay racing Chevrolet. Here's court now, also Tabuk underneath trickled. Meanwhile, for third they're stacked up double y sorted or they come through the corner. You want to watch that one. You also want to watch Jeff Gordon's chopped it down about five Carling's now kiddies Reiter doing a wail of a job a holding off Mark Martin. They've been door to door touched a couple of times. That's the way they go through one and two time trader high side of the racetrack above the corner. Bark Martin is there. They found saw one another covered. I'll remember to both going the same direction, but they're still sidelined size Schrader outside Martin inside three-car links between Burton. Gordon for the lead. Eight laps to go. A dead heat for third at the stripe while the front to get closer together. In the final laps. To charlie. Jeff Berg coming down the back straightaway. There's no traffic in front of them. They could settle this among themselves porn third. Mark Martin in front of Guinea trader at John dreading plan to become a member of this game. They all cross the start finish line and go back into one. Bobby Hamilton rusty Wallace trying to thrash out the six position back there. They work on it in the final laps. There are seven to go. Meanwhile, Jeff Gordon to Carling's behind. Jeff Burton for the lead in three or closer to and even more within a couple of car lengths, his jeffer- goes up the banking Burt grease toward draws now. To within one car length off the corner to the stripe. Six laps to go catching hymns one thing pass it and other ready for a shootout to the finish the race there into Burt about halfway up. The racetrack dot com of the public order. Jeff warden to strike. But doesn't have the power to make the booth for. Now, he's rear deck of Jeff Berg charging back at turn three works in this time out of tournament. Four takes a look to the inside Jeff doing a lot of driving rear view mirror now to see if he's going to try to come around the outside or the inside. He's gotta make that race car. Just as wide as he can five laps to go. Jeff Burton leads. Jeff, Gordon, Mark Martin still sitting back there and third trader fourth John ready fifth charges on it. Three or million side. Tries to make the passes Burke. Plenty of racing grew Gordon up alongside Burton right front tire Burton's left. Rear burton? No runs harder off turn four manages to pull back in front of him knows detail back to one four laps to go thinking to save line going through wanted to. But all over to go down to the inside halfway down the back straight away his buffer along the rear quarter panel of Jeff Jeff Gordon just having a credible year. He is run down. Jeff Burton Burton doing everything he can to keep him back there. He's. Made that car why does he could through both is the racetrack. Gordon's head offender underneath him. A couple of times there are three laps to go. Get at it again in the backstretch Nordic tracks of first half way down the back straight away. He's there waiting for the opening Burt running a little higher in the quarter of Ganthier. Go scored. No, the here goes Gordon, cutting low off for his best run yet his tire up to Burton's door. Now he pulls even with door to door two laps to go racing for the win or it has the advantage. He's on the high side of the racetrack. But Gordon good this time. I'll turn it over to. He's got the advantage halfway down the way the way now pardons links spank around at hangs onto the lead. These two have really hammered out all season long here, they come off turn number four. Go down to the line. White flag in his Burton by half a car length as they worked their way back to one a big flock. Traffic ahead. Don't think it's going to come into play. And gordon. Get him those details coming through the corner off of to Bert. Hi Gord fakes down store. Vicks contact with the rear quarter fan Burton. Now. He's got a planet on the inside of the track at four Gordon fries. The draw even they lead on each other off the court at till the stripe. They come will win by hood. Jeff Burton holds off a last lap charge by Jeff Gordon to score his second win of the NASCAR Winston Cup season. A thrilling finish to exciting evening of racing here in Richmond Virginia. Jeff Burton the winner. Jeff Gordon second Mark Martin third Ken Schrader fourth and John Andretti fifth. Winston kelly. I'm sure there are many missing fingernails down to the Exide teams pits. But they got the win tonight. Yes. They are Frankie Stoddard tried to. I'll tell you what. Congratulations. That's got to be one of your best wins yet. Hey, get into the pick. Oh, give it to the pick your all night long. They took this. Brought it in I and sending out. I we came in. We went out. We went out late in the race. Awesome job into pets on products. I've added Hawkins is here tonight. Fabulous job while the the twenty four right? You started tickled to death. Understandably. So is Jeff Burton comes home victorious. I'll tell you what that jumpstarted him as Jeff Burton goes to victory. This should be an emotional one. It was a fun night of racing here in Richmond. It's not over yet. We'll go down and get thoughts of some of the top finishers in the Exide four hundred in a moment. Jeff Burton has won best guard today continues on M R N Brady sponsored by Ford f series. The best selling trucks are built Ford. Tough. And exciting Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred is ended here in Richmond tonight. Jeff, Gordon caught. Jeff Burton with five laps to go made a desperate charge to the bottom of the race track. Time and time again Burton wins by the length of his hood his second victory of the ninety eight season with Gordon the runner up Martin finishing third. Mark Martin Ken Schrader will finish fourth tonight in John Andretti fifth victory lane shortly first let's hear from tonight's runner up. Well, thought that we don't see very often Jeff Gordon at the gas pumps rather than in victory lane. But I'll tell you what that was one way of show you count him. But couldn't quite get around him described those last three or four laps. Well, it's a classic Richmond race. You know? I'll tell you what Jeff Burnden a heck of a job. He's a great share. My hat's off to him and his team. He was unbelievably fast on new tires again. You know, he has been all year. But I catch them a little bit on those long runs and ninety one with two tires. You know, we couldn't beat them before know what the deal is. We have to check into that. But no we had a little bit better car there at the end. And you know, I just couldn't get by you get underneath him. But you just couldn't pass. And that's the way Richmond. Is you know, it's real tough and we banged wheels. We were we were having a lot of fun out there in my my hat's off to Jeff burn your slim just a little bit better on long runs. His a little bit better on shoulder runs. Well, again, you know, he could really take off and and go real fast new tires, and I just kind of kicked my pace and just try to, you know, be as cautious as I could on the on the new tires and just try to make them last as long as I could my car really came on late on the runs. But again, you could catch somebody. But you couldn't pass them that outside groups just too fast. Jeff, Gordon comes home second gains, a few more points on Mark Martin who believe is with Marty Schneider. Indeed, Mark Martin walking in the garage area. Boy, you had a great seat to watch that battle for the lead. But yet a battle of your own trying to finish third with Kenny Schrader talk about the final apps Lou that was a big race. We're straighter. But I'll tell you the best race has seen in a long time. Was my buddy. Jeff burton. Holding out there, man. He was he was the man there at the end. I'm really proud of Jeff Burton his team. I'm glad they want seem like your car was a lot better late in the race. What was the problem early on? We got it go and better. It was loose early in. We just kept working on Mark Martin Caitlyn hard tonight finished third fifteen top tens in the last sixteen races. That's a championship team. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification on MR in radio the voice of NASCAR racing. Well, should be one wild deal going on two hundred victory lane. Let's find out where the wild celebrations. I've ever seen converse. Congratulations. Jeff burton. But I I tell us about those last few laps with Jeff Gordon. He ran you down. Well, we knew the we knew they were real fast and on a long run. We were real fast short just like last week. We were real fast short run real fast long run. And they were better than us, and Jeff drove me real clean, and you know, he'll get now he'll get acid house times while Jeff earner Richmond. And the reason you don't ranking jealous because you're each other hard and without wrecking each other like I did a Darlington last year. And that's what comes back to you. So real pronounce the guys they also pitstops all night long. And here's a big rice. Boy, this is the race win next. I'd and have awesome pitstops. And it's just a great night force. You had to make the decision on those last few laughs which line was gonna take you chose to take the outside line. Well, first of all new Jeff would drive me. Clean felt for sure. Jeff drive me clean. I the soon as I went to the bottom. He would jump on the outside the pretty easy all night long. It was hard to get by people even lap cars that were fast. It was hard to get by on the inside. So I stuck them. I just ducked my guns, and that's Dell Jenner beat me last year. And that's how I beat a little Earnhardt in the in the Bush race this spring. So learn those lessons and take try to take advantage of early in the race. You really good about that. Brief fifty like you were dead in the water. What happened? Let's tell you the right. Well, again, we just like last week early in the race. We were good the whole, you know, for the long run the short run the whole deal. And then there at the end we we just weren't as good on a long run again. So we got fortunate that we got caution without a caution. We wouldn't have we wouldn't add a chance to win this race. But we call it a caution. Like we needed to put ourselves in position. They gave me an awesome pissed off. And you know, it it is thanks. They'll force right tonight. We gotta get a little better getting signed to drive out his they match. Next the rainbow warriors on the pitstops, and they did an awesome job tonight. You know, this team has progressed so far from the early part of the year. Really? We struggled in the pits early in the year. The mandate is buck. They just kept her head down never gave up all the same guys doing it. We didn't give up on anybody. And they just kept working and work in a work over the last two months. We've had awesome bits off. And we did it again tonight. So I'm really proud of the the effort that those guys have put in not only the effort of the improvement in before I forget it. I want to thank all the guys on the six car to the guy's gonna six car. Help us every single week. And this is this is truly a multi car team. And we got some benefit from those guys Virginia guy wins at Virginia. The Exide batteries four hundred congratulations to Jeff Burton. Tay what he's talking about. What a good job the crew did. And they did. But boy did a heck of a job in that race car. Too was all in his hands over those final laughs. When Gordon started getting along side of him, and he managed to keep it out front by nose to win members of the media covering tonight. Tracy voted Bobby, the body the goodies headache award too. Thousand five hundred dollars to Bobby involved at a crash at lap three sixty three while racing for spot in the top five, and we'll finish well down in the running order back to Winston Kelly. Another driver who had a great run tonight who learned his nickel big time. He was a lap down to different times. And got it back came home for a fifth-place run. John J tell us about your run. I'm real proud of the whole S P team. And you know, we kept them getting behind there because the Twenty-three kept saying out laughing at us in we got down there early because we get a little bit of real on back bumper. But you know, it was a great night for us. And who knows maybe if that oil hadn't been in that bottom grew we could give it a little bit stronger run there at the end, you had your hands full there at the end they will to hold off some of them, but not some others. Yeah. Marcotte around me. But in Bobby Hamilton was coming, but you know, just wasn't enough time left, and I couldn't get anybody in front of me. Like, I thought I thought I just drive right on buying. But I wouldn't able with the bad luck that they had tonight a grill section on the back part of their car down a lab. Two different times. John Andretti comes home fifth. Sipping get a word from Kenny Schrader fourth for Kenny Schrader in June fourth for Kenny Schrader today and not a bad run talk about that last couple of apps with Mark though, you said it was fun. But you thought he had you thought you had a faster car, did you? Well, Mark was probably a little bit faster. But we had to track position. I kind of let him let him grimy up a little bit and get in. The left side and get around. But you know, I was worried about. Getting turned around. So you know, probably gave third away. I should know. But we'll take it. It was a good run for the school Chevrolet with hung around top-five all day. And that's what we need to your only reaction to finishing fourth was it's better you not happy with four or you thought you could do better. It's better. It's a good run. But you know, if you ain't standing over were there were Jeff Burton is you you didn't do good skinny traitor? He finishes fourth tonight Ken equals his season. Best performance with another fourth place run tonight. Third time this year. He's come home with a fourth place effort, Gatorade broader award tonight. Jeff Burton led it halfway. He collects ten thousand dollars from the officials sports drink of NASCAR. We will take a break here. Come back and give you the finishing order from tonight's Richmond race in a moment. Back at Richmond, where victory lane celebrations continue for the exi- team. Jeff Burton having the pictures taken with the trophy and all the rest after winning. But was a very exciting. Exide NASCAR batteries four hundred. Let's take a look at the finishing order. It will be Jeff Burton the winner. Jeff Gordon finished his second. Mark. Martin ran third Ken Schrader was fourth fifth to John Andretti. Bobby Hamilton post a good run and six position. Rusty wallace. Seventh eighth to Mike Skinner Jimmy Spencer came home ninth. Kitty Irwin make up the top ten. Kenny. Wallace finished eleventh little twelfth thirteenth. Geoff Bodine fourteenth to earn urban Sterling Marlin was fifteenth. They'll Jared finished sixteenths Steve Grissom was seventeenth Darrow. Walter finished eighteenth nineteenth rippled on twentieth. His Jeff green Terry Labonte finished twenty first second to Jeremy Mayfield twenty-third. We'll go to Jerry, they do Derek cope finishes twenty th and Ted must grave make up the top twenty five Michael Waltrip finished twenty six tonight with Steve park twenty-seventh. Ward Burton Twenty-eight, then sets or twenty nine th and Wally Delon back. Thirty. With Rick mast was thirty first Todd Bodine's car, which was finished by dick trickle who finish in the thirty seconds spot. Dave Marcus gets thirty third Ricky Rudd thirty fourth and Bobby Labonte thirty fifth. Kevin the page finishes thirty six Joni Mitchell, thirty seventh Dale Earnhardt thirty eighth. Kyle petty thirty ninth and Bill Elliott fortieth. Johnny Benson forty. I dick trickle forty second. And Robert Pressley finished in the forty third position. Twenty four lead changes among eleven different drivers. Jeff Burton leading two hundred and six of the four hundred laps tonight. He'll get the bonus points for the most leaders. Most laps led rather eight caution periods for sixty eight laps and the time of the race was three hours, sixteen minutes and eight seconds. Not a record for four hundred laps here at Richmond, unofficial championship standings. It'll be Jeff Gordon leading Mark Martin by two hundred and four points a gain of five tonight with Dale Jarrett dropping three hundred eight behind into third rusty Wallace four seventy five. Back and forth and Jeff Burton moving up to the fifth position in the championship. Standings leaping up a couple of spots with his win. He's six hundred and fifty four behind the leader. These the unofficial numbers Fisher numbers released by NASCAR on Monday morning. Couple of other things before we go. I the Marin radio pit reporters. Need to select a winner of the first union pit strategy award five hundred dollars to the Winston Cup racing wives auxiliary on behalf of the winter Jim Phillips, what do you think? Well, I forgot what is who is going up for vote for John reddish. Crude Robbie Loomis crew that comeback laps down and made them up and fifth-place finish. I'm we'll go with crew Winston Kelly. Well, that was a good good nomination. But I'm going to have to go with Ryan started in the boys. They made some adjustments early that didn't work out. They went back to their original chassis setup. And it got him in victory lane. That's the name of the game. So the exit grew gets my not Marty Schneider. I'll go with Mark Martin and his punch. The car was not very good early. Then made it good at the end. And it got him third place. I'll go with Mark Martin our executive producer, David. Hi tips. The scales? On the favor of the S T P team. So they will win the first union pitch strategy award tonight. Five hundred dollars to the Winston Cup way racing wives auxiliary on their behalf. And if you need help you too personal financial strategy. Visit your local first union offers or call eight hundred four one three seven eight nine eight. Well, it's time for tonight of select the winner of the rare bestest break the race award will award five hundred dollars to the motor racing outreach. Children's ministries from Ray bestest breaks in the name of the driver who received the best break tonight. Tell you who I had in mind was Jimmy Spencer Spencer started what did last on the field of the tail end the field. He got a good break. A couple of times there when the caution came out when he was still out there and everybody else had pitted. I like Spencer, and he comes home with a pretty good ninth-place finish. You may have a better one had made the note about Spencer getting a huge break. When a caution came out when he was in need of a pit, stop and that got him back in sync of things. So we'll give the very best break of the race award to Jimmy Spencer five hundred dollars to motor racing outreach in his name. From Ray bestest breaks, the official breaks of NASCAR final thoughts on this. When Barney I think this is one of the most exciting races. We've seen all year obese race by far one of the best races. We have seen all season. We've seen some good ones some of the bigger tracks. But short-track racing it. I'll tell you you can't help. But like short-track racy you can look right down on what's going on in that race track. The guys are comfortable with the speeds running here. Mostly a better when I don't think we saw tonight had great action throughout just about the entire four hundred laps within the top ten cars all throughout the night. And in the end had a finished that was side by side to the checkered flag with Jeff Burton holding off Jeff Gordon for the win tomorrow. The NASCAR craftsman truck series is at Memphis motorsports park, a brand new three quarter mile oval there and that Tennessee city. The NASCAR truck network has the Memphis two hundred twelve forty five eastern time hope that you'll listen in on that one tomorrow afternoon next week motor racing network is at the monster mile Dover Delaware starting Friday with bud pole qualifying at three thirty eastern time SP. 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Talks With John 7-6-20 Episode 55

Talks With John Podcast

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Talks With John 7-6-20 Episode 55

"From mouthful media. John Lennon changed the world. Not just with his music but with his words, his thoughts whose humor. Is hopes and dreams. John had so much more to. But. His time with US was cut short. So what if John was here today? would. Think of the world. Of Music. Part. Politics. Of Lunch. Join US and just imagine. This is talks with John. I'll tell you what Sami. America's breath is gone by it has an kind of went along with a whimper this year well. What are you? GonNa do I mean? I know the pandemics been soaring in numbers again yet? Well Gee, I don't WanNa tell the world told you so but I, know I'm calling him a caveats. I think that's great because I think a lot of people acted like. What are you GonNa do when your own precedent? Well Yeah. There's that you know. Goes into his tirade in front of Mount Rushmore. Thought, it was a bad campaign speech. Well Yeah and there was one line about Kofi nineteen in it. Just one kind. There because now and conversely. I showed you that great picture I found of the Queen Oh Queen Elizabeth with. Matching mask. Would you expect less from this laid? No, she's beautiful and once again an exemplary example. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Clear example. Of what we should be doing right exactly. In style beautiful yellow dress. She's happening yellow hat and a perfectly matched mass. Show hip. How old is she? Now on my ninety s is a wild ninety s go we all should. Be They're fortunate. Oh absolutely but you know I've been saying that too if we gotta wear the darn thing yes, we might as well at least girls I mean guys aren't that particular but for us you know there's a lot of really nice looking ones out there wouldn't. Come fashion accessory. Away and I think they're going to be for a really long time and boy she's just setting the bar. She's no she's always been happening. She is a step ahead. Know you have met her oh yeah. There are very few people in this world that I really want to meet that I haven't already met. She's one. Oh, I would love to be just even in a room with her even if it in meter interesting I'm sure she'd probably give you company. That'd be something they would be it would be amazing I just Gosh I, think she's Incredibly. Cool. Well, we appreciate that we love our Queen Mother. Well. They'll never be another like I. Think I'll move England with your then school because I don't like to. Have to move go. Short trip to booking imbalance. Much prefer her over the one that. is at the top this particular. We won't even go there. No I know it because this is. Saudi silliness. Kinda ticket seriously. Embarrassment. Well, our American I'm not but I kind of feel like. Well you know I. Love America but but you it's a joke. It's yeah. It's just not realistic. I. Think you're as American as I am because. German. and. I grew up that way and you know all my relatives are there. So I kind of look at it from kind of over here like you knew right and I do know that my friends, Germany. particularly. One he'll just drop me an email or text once in a while saying airports here are still open right meeting come through. She goes Germany I know that we call it Munchkin. Well Munchkin oaklawn mentioned mentioned. Say Munich. Yes. That's how we should mention interesting. Well. Yeah. There's an Americanized version of Munich Roy that looks like you're right right but properly should add. It's mention. Yeah. Yeah I do too. I did a short track which is a part of Jimmy. Beautiful country. I've never been there or I mean, you're a baroness's something, right? Arch Baroness Washburn. It's Your way up there now, that's not way of like are changeable and not quite on the same level. Okay. But no, you have gotten to see I'd never have. Is I go back in a heartbeat well, I got family there and they need to go. It's crazy having not talked to them to recently I. Mean There's castles in our family and it goes way back. Got See. What you waiting for you know I almost did once in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty s I got are probably early nineties I got so fed up with everything right? I just broken up with somebody and I didn't like the radio station I was working at anymore or I wasn't happy there and there's I offer from German station Oh. Really. Yeah and it was a great offer. It was a great offer. It wasn't even to broadcast and German. Okay it was English. But they liked me because I spoke both languages and I noticed chairman customs wouldn't offend anybody. Yes. Because I know what's right and what's wrong and the money was great and the benefits were great and everything was great. And question. So why didn't take it because as I did take it and as I started making the preparations to move, you've moved across I've been world as semi moving on other countries huge. Well, you know you're not going for a visit you're taking all your stuff lewis right and as I got into that I realized, my animals would have been quarantined for six months. Six months and we tried everything under the sun to get that shorten or make it not necessary. I mean friends here working on it friends there nobody could you in that animal thing I couldn't do that to them John. I understand would've been horrible I. Mean All of a sudden I'm gone this and you've been working hard here and all of a sudden you know against your pets of Judgment. He took a damn trip to Phoenix. Well I had to you didn't have to. yes I do you know what I'm saying? Well, no, I. Well there was a an durable little Lhasa ops who had a gun to my head. Notice I completely understand what you're saying I'm just saying you know most people probably wouldn't have done this. Well, you know we have been crazy busy during this pandemic moving animals around for people I know I mean it's been insane. Every day I, see Randy out. Yep City to city whatever and he had something along the lines of twelve hour day. Right and this little dog had till three o'clock that afternoon to get out of the shelter they were going to. Yeah because he has, he has a tumor on his tummy. And he's fourteen years old right. So he's a little bit older not quite so adoptable anyway. So if we hadn't gotten him out. At that time, they would have done that and surrendered souls and Tempe Arizona. Everett Saint. Spotted this little guy and wanted to get him out in time and get him out there and get him treatment and so there was nobody else to do it. Well, I mean. If. It weren't for you right now it was insane. Put everything aside on your knee. I hurt. My knee. Good. fell. What happened? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's nothing meniscus. Yeah. That's horrible. Yeah. It's not good. I was I was. Hanging clothes in my closet. And you see my closet, right, it's a step stool to get to the top bar. 'cause it's Florida's laying out and. The steps still fell over inside I. See it I I remember hitting it but it hurts But yeah, I mean but you drove in that condition my left one. Wasn't that that that terrible took Alfie with you. I took Alfie because he came from that rescue and Marianne wanted to see 'em Suzanne's again. Yeah and so I thought why not you know so he got to go and we picked up this little guy named Pierre. That's what Marianne named him and he was all bundled in a towel will blanket and he just sat in the backseat all bundled up. And road all the way with me and we dropped him off I mean so. Most people think of animals as just animal now there's little. Little. Yep Spiritual Beings my God. Yeah. Now and the trust in you. Yeah, and you know this poor little dude was found wandering around. He was a matted mess nobody taking care of him. He had this tumor on his tummy that was bleeding. You know had kind of broken and. You should see the picture after they got him a haircut. I saw his the door listening. Beautiful. Little do no right and he went to the vet right and the tumor is not inside the body wall. It's sub Q. on the outside. It super good. Okay. He has a really bad infection. So he's taking meds and in about a week, he'll have that tumor removed and you know that dog is GonNa. He's got a good four or five more years. No, that's it. Listen. It's a wonderful thing and a very admirable. You do. Well, he you know he had been a lot of pain John but he let me Pat and he let me turn him over and take pictures from Ariane before we started driving. You know he was just such a sweetheart you needed love. Yeah it was interesting. I was watching one of them shows like check wild. Juwono. Jack Hanna thank you. Right he's always out in Africa and things like that. I saw the most amazing thing today because we're talking about animals just for second but I never would have believed and they said that they it's never been filmed. Ever There's a wildebeest. Okay. What? Kind of A. New, you know like large antelope kind of hydrogen, right? But a little bit more borscht looking. Yeah. Yeah. They're kind of heavyset right now. So her mother gives birth. Next. Thing. You know there's a lioness dare and. Sand. So it so mother. Sensing the danger out. Couldn't approach her her her child. This The Lion. Approaches the wildebeest the baby the baby. And instead of. Actually has mouth around it. But then stopped. And then cleaning it oh my goodness. Wow, actually befriended it. Oh, my God like maybe. It was a mother missing her child and that could have been. You know and it actually the will be still too young to know the danger right? Right. So it didn't run it trust the lions and the ause around his end and it was filled. That's incredible it. Never, happened before at least filmed and it became friends and let it go. Well, you know it's interesting with animals because you can have kinds of species be friends right? I mean I've seen thing you know lions and tigers befriends I I seem tigers and bears up together be bonded. I saw a picture yesterday you know colleen. Insurance go Tim's right. If you're exactly right he shows me this picture. It's a cat. Okay with a bunch of baby suckling. and. A skunk. I've seen hedgehogs a skunk. I've seen little hedgehogs join Abreu light while there's a picture I gotta find it for you a little video. You know my my pit bull yes. Yes. Of course. Well, there's a picture of her nursing on one of our Mama cats and it right in with her litter locating because when we got loose natio- teeny, she was only eight days old. And she was orphaned and we had a mama cat that had four or five babies. We thought food. Why not? Right. Problem. Speaking of animals you know with the fourth of July had have known by yeah. Well, you know what? I'm going to say dogs. terrier. Also pit bull, right right? Yeah. Beautiful Oh. Yeah. They're going to ran from the fireworks I lost of course and it wouldn't have happened. No. If it weren't for people being so careless, you know it's interesting because dogs are not dumb they're smart but for some reason, the sound of fireworks sets them into a frenzy of dogs there have been dogs that have jumped few sliding glass doors glass, right? You leaped fences that they never could leave on a normal day and. Every single shelter on the fifth and the six is loaded. Well, you know it makes me sick enough when I hit him blessing off I know I can't stand Badgen. If if you're an animal and you don't understand how and you know their ears are more sensitive hard. So it must sound thousands of times writer for them and they don't know what it is. It's so interesting that that sound of all sound. Just, makes dogs just really lose control. It happens every year I know it's horrible. Yeah I usually stay home on fourth of July just take care my animals I. Get you. Yeah. Because I couldn't stand if something happened and we keep them in the house and you know I don't leave out in the backyard or anything like that. No. Watching the news as I do you're a news junkie but listen to this. I may be found a reason to go to palm springs with. My well, that's. The, prime. anyways you but I'm just saying I appreciate it over hot and it's I drove through the palm springs area and when I dress one zero to a one of rights. Okay. Now, what in the world would make you volunteer to go to Tom? Watson the news and they said that in the Mid West Oklahoma Texas that is going to feel worse than Death Valley. Days likes the humidity. Along with the heat is going to you know. Worse Than Death Valley there's going to be there's going to be trouble here. Okay. All right. So so what are they doing palm springs and it's not over to the public yet, but they had some kids in there trying to doubt. They have a wave pool, oh? Yeah. Yeah. You know there's a big water park out there. It's a wave pool. So almost like you're in the ocean yup, and it creates these wave. Yeah. And these kids? We'll surfing and you WANNA go in there I'd go for that. Just. Tell you that. Of course, anybody would notice. Listen It's a safe way to serve no shark, my God I doubt they have a shark think. So Oh, my goodness. Amazing Oh my. Kids from Watts. Okay. Wonderful because he was not opened right and yet some of the guys are professional surface they data testing it right And all the time of their lives wonderful effect. This one young beautiful black kid stood up on his very first try. Oh, good for him. Yeah and they just. They applaud. Over in that wonderful that's You. Know my brother used to take out on a surfboard was I read. Yeah I SAT HANG TURN My brother. Yeah Yeah I sat and while he served he, I. Try. Not. With. My new writing. I don't think my knee would qualify me to serve but have you seen the dogs this oh? Yeah. Amazing are good at it. Really good. I. Want to do it. They like it is insane. Yeah. They like to show you know come on. Of course you know these animals thinking more than no yeah, Jason. Hill. Skateboard hell. Yes, and they know they're on the board and they put their one hind foot out and do. Know. What they're doing well, you know again, people just think that they're reactionary right but they're not they watch everything we do and they analyze it. They learn well like your cats here. Too Smart Oh I know what cats are Super Skinny Little Lion is oh data. That pet well, it's a pet. All again, what would you call it? He's a stuffed lion. So stop lying clash lion but but little Miss Piper there she. I'm Michelle do anything in the world to get to it. Well Yeah. She knows where it is and how to get there or the other day was hysterical because she came in the booth went behind. Crawled up behind it like we weren't. All right and then then start sneaking it's just Right, down the back, we caught her it's funny. She she I don't know what her obsession with that particular Toyota this something because we bought our stuff dog and she's like, okay. But she wants that you're right and you know he came from National Association of Broadcasters Convention Right and is little. He has a little scarf and says broadcasting wrong maybe that's why you see. Him Well of course, you guys a fighting. I'M NOT GONNA. Let her have. Chew of the Game Continue Oh my God and she's totally totally knows Oh speaking of game. Oh okay. Time for dumb stuff. Okay. twentysomethings have a new game. All right okay. They call them covid nineteen parties. No and what it is is you invite everybody over for party. And you invite one or two year friends who just happen to have coronavirus kidding. No. Kidding they're sick they've tested positive supported. Well then you take bets on how many people from the Party are GONNA come down with it get out even money in a pot. They want to contract the virus was they hope they don't But what they WANNA do is win. So they'll guess we have twenty people at the party in one sick person. I think fifteen will get it and I'll put five on that doesn't get much dumber than that right? That's what I said. Cool videos. Yeah. So you win the pot. And well I guess you can have somebody go buy you flowers for your hospital room. Oh it's a decision that crazy well. Yeah. I. I'm just shaking my head because why would you even? All things to invent. Well, I think because they don't really believe it's stat, right? Youthful more. talented. Right, but you know the other thing too is they leave the party they go home. There's grandma Oh, there's their parents. There's there little baby brother. Totally self centered how? Considering anything else of living source I could not believe when I heard that of us. So sad I know Oh that just the craziest dump thing what shows the new heights that were achieving. Teasing. Terrible. Really. Terrible. This whole thing people have just got to get there head wrapped around it that we gotta chill for Awhile here and just that's how it is speaking of news. I want to see what you think they're well. You prefaced like that on the seventh July seven, your member they had what would you call it in June the thirteenth to? Show on the nineteenth was nineteen. So, June eighteenth June tenth which expressed. Understanding the black yeah it's it's the day that the African American. They celebrate their freedom. When they were freed slaves now the follow up. Okay. Oh dare blackout. It's a new day. What is blackout? It's where you're supposed to go out and shop. Black. Owned okay mock. Okay out when you go out and you shop specifically black owned and operated stores. The shows too. Well that's your point is single find out how? At support it and show right Okay. There you go. Isn't that also Ringo's birthday? Right it is. Do you know he's going be eighteen years? Old I? Do know that does he locates Oh God now does he sound as a guy that as a child? He had parents tonight I know. Scary. Well, you could easily especially. With his. Condition and financial situation. Well, yeah. In the poorer section of Liverpool and with what they didn't know about medicine back then well, of course. It put him in a hospital. and. so He'd really never graduated from school properly. Really. But. Then, well for non. Hyphen. Came around and He saw these drums. Just. Picked up my goodness wow. Right Wow. No, he doesn't look eighty. He doesn't sound eighty he doesn't act eighty well. Well, hello you. Yeah You gotTA birthday you. Yeah. You and Regal will have the same number us. Okay. either. Number still bothered me well, you don't look that number. You don't get to that number. Will I know God? No. God forbid. Those. Numbers, you can't stop them from happening. They're going to happen and they haven't so rapid. Boy. Expedient I now flocked literally flies. Yeah. I know how to get here. What happened all those years in the middle? No I think Ringo is doing great. Now if Ringo and you're you're coming up eighty Ringo's coming up on eighty. Paul's he's seventy, eight, seventy, eight. Okay. He's kind of two years behind I. Well, he's out there kicking to. Demand doesn't Stop LP looks fabulous him you know. I think is fantastic. Right ever I have so many friends in rock and roll who are out there doing it like you like your Ringo in their seventies, eighties and. It. In this, in this interim period that we've gone through this sequestering, it's an interesting I listen to your and Tim's spittle show again. Did you again? You guys really kick arse on that. It's wonderful. The the approach that you take you make it very. Very, listenable, very entertaining and very upbeat and play a Beatles explain. You talked about Jimmy Nicholl? Yeah. We did God bless him I learned I learned that was fun. That's really tim is baby. You're right and I learned stuff will but I've talked to me he says you the show. Because you're producing and directing. Keeping it within the boundaries of good radio. Well, I think it's nobody does. Come, flee we will send. So I love hearing. You know because I I've heard I've heard it all I love doing it. It's fun it really and flies by and I see younger people listening call I was hanging out with a kid Casey who works? Infinity Ward, he does the game call of duty right? He looks forward to the show he sits down. And I see him. Prick his head up. When you talked about I use the shotgun Shell to. Offer you blue I thought Tim was teasing me when he told me that is what you did. You know the thing that the Beatles's people have catalogued. Almost like a diary I know. It's it's. A nation a little bit fanatic well times. Yes but it is very interesting. Well, it is interesting in. Fortunate to be that group Oh God. Yes. It has become such a study over. So well, document right using a shotgun shell to do wide. God really thought Tim was teasing the woods to happiness is a warm gun is is a publicist Derek Taylor on an acid trip? Yeah. No. Sputtering out about mold skin gloves and things like that. Crazy but it gives me the father to. Turn it into something. rhythmically artistic but that's you. You can take any idea and turn it into a song. Okay coming up. A little bit. Just a little bit know. Hopefully, we will get that show syndicate. It's got to all over the country because it's just great. We're lucky. On the Beatles Channel on Sirius Xm that's really where I'd love to see it. But was sending. So thank you more power to you. Thank you I do. Love. Learning your software for the new season of right? Yeah. Well it is and it's all online. Again, if there was any doubt about it, the second rising of school has become. y'All supports. Yeah. USC was actually going to have this on campus classes they were they were. Not Now, no they after this latest three surgeons and they closed the restaurants again USC said Nope we're online again over the numbers are staggering they're horrifying. You were telling me the other day. The projection is what one in seventy if if something hadn't happened last week in other words, shutting down the restaurants again and and making more move toward at your citing people are wearing masks right? They predicted that one out of every seventy people in La county would have. Never doing fines. Understand I haven't seen anybody get sick it yet. It independent where you're know why in West Hollywood of all places, which is very liberal. Well, I. Think there were the hot link ones. Yeah. Three hundred dollars. Yeah. That's the first time. Keep it up and it goes on the Beverly Hills books what have you I think maybe I'm GonNa Guess here that West Hollywood did it because they have a large gay population? And they that they have a lot of lot more people with compromised immune systems. No I understand what you and you know that they're really trying to protect themselves even though you're going to get the people that are going to be pc about. Say Oh you discriminating gosh well, well, you know it's not the actual cops that are given the citations. No there it's. They have the police departments have kind of like a public. Sir a lot of them have a public service department where or not armed. They're often civilians. Yes and those are the ones who are going to be around going around diving. Yeah and if they catch you without it, they'll talk to you though if you don't have one, they'll give you one as not a jerk. They won't get a ticket the first time. I also noticed sincere in that you know I. Would see lots of people that are, let's just say a poorer that don't have. The media. Prewar them about this. Right or even homeless if you will. What are you GonNa do them? No. No they actually. Do. They actually are spending money to buy. Like one hundred thousand masks are coming into La County here in the next couple of days and they're going to be handing them out. To anybody who wants one if masks even the answer? Well, you know I don't know if they are another. Now. and. I learned something this week actually. Because I had on my show talking about masks. Okay and he's from a medical company that deals with respiratory issues. And this is a neat company is called PM medical and he was wonderful Sam's Marco Boni and he's a CEO and he they've actually kind of produced videos over talking about what you should do before you put the mask on before you put the mask. Oh. Yeah. To get your breathing right. Because you you're breathing differently with it on. Yes sir. K. Love people panic. Oh. Yeah. That's even whether it feels confined. It is confined. You're breathing hot air is confined. Yeah. Thought fresh. No No. Asthma like me can trigger asthma will go ahead with what you were saying. What he what he said it, it's really rather simple. You breathe through your nose. I have to remember how to do it. You breathe through your nose I think it's like forty seconds and you hold it for two and then you let it out your mouth. And you take a little break and you'd five times. So it's like my therapist. Yeah, I mean. Not leaving thing. Because when you go into hypnosis. The first thing they start with is breathing. Yeah to focus on a deep. You know. Now exhale because getting focused with. Get right with your inner self. He says what a lot of people do. If they don't do that breathing thing they put it on and they start taking very short breaths and they hyperventilate because and he also told me something interesting. He says, as you get older, you breathe higher. In, your body interesting. He says, a baby has what he calls belly breathing breathing way down here and he said some seniors are having what he called shoulder breathing with their highly getting anything down their lungs. and. So this kind of technique can get your breaths deeper before you put the mask on and then when you get done with the mask, you do the same thing. And they actually even and he's going to send me one. We'll have to play with them. A little device that costra fifty bucks. And, they're not a gimmick. These guys are serious there in the healthcare industry they're not just riding the wave of this thing, a device that used morning and evening for about five minutes to help your respiratory muscles be stronger. Reminds me of what was Humphrey Bogart? Just put your lips together. Right and so. These breeder things they've got one for the public. They've got one for athletes and they're coming out with one four singers. Oh. Interesting. Yeah. The differences Beasley think your breathing. Ability Weyermann's requirements. Lewis because an athlete needs to breathe better than the average person singer needs to rebuild. So He's actually sending us some for us to try big business opportunity. Well, you know it's interesting because. This company has been thrust into the consumer market, which is not what they've ever really been. Okay. Always been dealing with the healthcare pros right and. They realized that my goodness what we know could help the general public. They're really nice. Company and they're keeping their prices low and. Doing a lot of education quite interesting question that something is needed. Well, yeah sounds very positive. It's nice. When you see people coming to the forefront right now and not trying to make a million dollars, you know not still doing. Good, service, and scaring people in. You know. So I like that even with some of the nicer masks that are on the market, there's a couple of companies that make them right here in La there really nice and I'm promoting them all over the place. Yeah because they're donating money back into it. It's kind of weird how all this new stuff has come up, but there's some people don't it nicely doing streaming Streaming Oh, my streaming called together club Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because I watched that as well you do to maybe we'll get you on at one of these hours sinking the maybe you should put that on your comes into the club. Yeah because it's a very positive. Useful yeah. Mechanism that people need to hear I. Agree. So when we get those little devices and we're going to try them out I, think I like streaming. I. How did I? Know that was coming? Gene. Oh? Gosh. Oh has. The lights go down. Yeah. Because I cannot tell you that drives me nuts. Oh Yeah. He was funny because I was going to youtube and I ran across I think I sent you copy of that because you German, yes of when we did those recordings we were in. We were in Paris. For an eighteen day residency at the Olympia Theatre I got Kenny, Nolan by the. Yes Quick. At that. Yeah you could search out things. Yes. I do like to find the. Pop Record. Of Tim's yes now I didn't know Tim had ever done record well, Tim's. Yes, I keep realizing that. This. Around nineteen eighty, so it would've been. A knack came out I remember the neck because the neck kind of copied our style you know within ties in the. The superbeet lampe fires okay. I've never seen A. Look. I'm called get. Right Oh. Yeah. You know I went to see them once because I was working with the band at the time named kid brother Yes and our guitar player Danny, Jacob His guitar teacher was in the neck. No, and so we weren't they're probably yeah and we went over to. Where they were hurting watched them Burton. Burton was illegal. And He's he when when he left the knack, he ended up writing Broadway musicals. Wow. He was Danny she. Neck was hit and big, and we went over and watch them rehearse. S. I are kind of cool. Dog was a huge Beatles Aficionados. So. He kind of you know used the stylistic you're right. I hadn't really put the. If. You look at get the knack the I. Remember it. It looks like the early Beatles. Since and that was in the period of punks. Yeah I know so. My thing you had poke. Yeah. The sex pistols you know black flag. Yeah. Then you had new wave see none of that was my bag. The Knack and the 'cause I liked the cars and blondie. There was very little I liked in that period, right. But this is probably the song a two from each of them that you could see that was pretty good. Well, the. Right car you know Rick O. Casing. No admitted all the time that he ripped off Ohio Express is that right? Yeah. Oh, is that right? He ripped off riff from Yummy Yummy yummy looking to us and what was the? Super Big hit. Several Girl now. I can't thank you be while we'll come up with. Yeah. Whatever whatever one of their super super big hits was he admitted. Yeah. That's it. I don't mind you hanging round. Talking in your sleep a he flat out said he pulled a riff out of Yummy Yummy that really made that song work I'm not surprised. Yeah. Because the one thing about a group that they really had hooky stuff God. Still. Tried to get out of your. Way. To something important and. I know that that bubble gum chewing away your brain hey, no. I didn't like much of the eighty s music, right? I was not interested. I proved everything. That's the yeah. That's you you like all kinds of stuff you know that's when I knew Bowie. Pretty well wow. And most people don't that we became very good friends, I know you've played a are you saying on some of those things played on? Song the fame. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is the LIMO. I did not have a clue. You did that until just recently. Well David. Again, he was A. Real name was. Diaz I Java? Jones and he had to change it because of because the monkees save a Joan. Among He you know he didn't like being called. Davy right. He lightning all day. Yeah. He was a particularly the strange character boy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Inventive. Well, crazily, he'd like myself was kind of a chameleon you know he came out of the ziggy stardust. You know, and then he went into the thin white Duke. Exactly, yeah. Well, that's why he had a long career Brilliant. You have had a long career Ilias. You you. You stay true to who you are, but is still make yourself relevant as things change. That's tricky. It is tricky. That's hard. Yeah. Well, yeah. But I don't think people ever realized that somebody a lot of people who are famous in the music is like you would go be on somebody else's album especially without really being even credited to the public. Well See. It didn't matter at that point. That's what people I don't think understand you did it just because you were friends with him and it sounded like fun right. Yeah it was ripe for Simon. They, I don't think people get that. That really happens a lot. You know. Even if here I think it's young Americans young America's. News today Oh boy. E Yeah. No kidding right. No I never would have got that without some help. So it's Out this kind of a trade off going down. He ever thought of that. So I was sayin'. Youtube when when we were kind of forced into this gym and recording. And what was interesting? I saw the guy somebody caption is a German singer. He was one of the ones that did the translations. You got to watch the video I do I wanna see you know because it shows How There's no way it really matches up you. Got Recklessly no because the phrasing wouldn't be the same even had one I refuse to do his version of the lyrics really well, why? Because it just ruined the Fricken Song? He made his translations of words. Yes. And I said, no, I'm not gonNA do that well. And they got this guy can't remember but you'll see it in the video and quite fascinating and he was there to make sure that phonetically, right Possible see I just I never thought you guys really looked at the translation I thought you just learn it phonetically and went for it. No. No like I said the first time around I said. CIGNA. And we were. It was interesting because. It was about the only time. Ever I remember according to Abbey Road it was the Makoni Studios in Paris And interestingly enough not only do we go back to rerecord those two songs because again? Germany. Had some kind of deal go with emi where they thought we can really cash on this now made the top ten. Number One. Oh Yeah. Did they played the chairman versions here in the state that you're young? Yeah. Because now the stall. Yeah, right? Yeah. But but it was funny to you. Also see that the the she loves you track they lost the result really yes we had record everything my goodness 'cause that one matches up far less. Yeah. Yeah. Far Less interpreted. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Far Less than what? Your version I would love to hear your opinion if you look at it and you know because because I wanna see it. Yeah it's really interesting really interesting and that's the I love YouTube Encyclopedia. Oh I found some. You found that whole record you talking about the pipe. Funny that that's how the world works and this from Hiroshima. That's crazy Japan. That's nuts. Context Buddy Tim Asus I collect old power pop pam you him. Right Do you know these guys et freaked him out. Good. He says, well. I was I I am one of them Yeah. Why do you ask he's got like a three thousand records? Sent, Somebody told him somehow in Japan, you've got to find the pipers ha is really bizarre. We know Randy had somebody tell him years ago. Have you ever heard of jellyfish he hadn't and he went on Youtube and found the songs and he's enthralled with that man now he's totally enthralled with jellyfish. Well, I'm hoping that we can. We can get that record and maybe Tim and Greg and. Sally and. They can sign it to this guy because he would not let it go then. Copy in the world well, this guy in Japan, it'd be over the mode not crazy take to actually the actually is talking to tim the guy on the album. South again, you've got yourself caught up in in some exquisite. One off doll. Oh, well kind of SORTA and we'll Kinda SORTA KINDA SORTA SORTA. Well, yeah. I found her but the woman isn't willing to let her go yet. So and pretty special. It's very special dollars only three in the entire world eighty one years ago. And since she was the twenty one inch E. Yeah it's proper which puts to rest. Any any ideas? The might have been another set. Yeah. Doesn't exist I just decided I am going to with Tim's help create a website about those dolls. Task. A great idea I WANNA do it. He's going to help me with a video of it was voice so good body you then. You're going to get so much. Attention I'm not doing it for that. You were saying you know there's nothing like it now, right? You've got a an expert who's young enough yet. Old enough to really talking about. Well, you know I think something that's really important in this area of collecting his to try and get younger collectors into it because well, right a lot of these doctors are in their seventies and eighties and. You. Know what are you talking about dolls from one thousand, nine, hundred, nine now I know. If they got him his children. What are they going to be now I know that's exactly the point. So in order for this to continue. L. So maybe putting it out there on a in a modern way might get some younger people interested I think it's just you know worth it just just for. The documentation. Well, yeah because I do know I know this I know more about those than probably. Anyone. Person and you should put it up they're going to. Yeah. You should put I think. And, I'm sure. Glad to help. I always reserved doing it because I always had in the back of my head since I was in my twenty s that I'd write a book. But. That's that's really not going to happen. So I think I'm going to do this. I think that will be the thing that. A Book Korea. I mean videos were as I. Know they do you know I still have my books? No question I still really love but you know especially, if you're looking for young people I know you know. If they've have it enhanced. On their iphone. Yeah you know that's the way they're going to absorb it. Yeah. I know a lot of the doll shows are virtual right now because you can't go to them. Is Virtual had digital fireworks the other night. You know the thing that worries me Jonah I'll just say it. Is. Our. Win we can go back to real. Are we going to go back to? I think it's changed. Yeah. I know I mean forever. I know I'm afraid. So I don't want to say Oh doom and gloom the world is ruined. No I I'm not saying that. But Boy Oh, boy being there and seeing in person is so much better. But it's changing my friend. You're the tearing down the statues, the changing the flags you know. I understand often going to be the same. I got into a little discussion. With SOMEBODY WHO Goshen? Kinda on one of the largest media platforms. And she was talking about tearing down the statues and all that. There to remind us a good things and bad things is my opinion. And they bring you know when you happened across one. It brings up questions which then go to seek the answers. And if they're not there, what is gonNA prompt you to seat the answers I think there's there's a reason. For them being there because they do create the conversation and we've gotTA learn from history, we can't just pretend it didn't happen you learn from it. You know. And I gosh, and some of these statues are hundreds of years old and even if you just want to look at it as art pieces, it's it's Kinda horrid to have them destroyed. You know. I don't know. I. Do I don't know what's going to happen with that. You have a lot of people that are trying to. Level the playing field. But some of it doesn't quite make sense needs to be done carefully because it's a lot at stake. As a hellacious amount of things at stake right now and you know again, it goes to something you've been talking about forever and that's peace. and. God knows we all want that we will. Well, we all do. We can't do it right though. Are Trying to get out and play a couple of gigs. We got that. Rug pulled out from under you got one under your belt. Played One I it was good. It was mean. I think every musician I know is just about to lose his brain. Actor I know anybody I know business. is been done well you. Should just do a live concert new stream it. Know I've been doing that you know up in helping. The people. That you should do it. I wish I had the time Oh come on now even though I have time I have another time well, yeah. His producing bits. Well, you would think you know with every saying home you'd have so much time in your hands. I don't think I've ever been this busy in my life and that's something my God is. Spending, like ten twelve hours a day in the studio now the good thing. Your House in order I'm trying looking good I'm working on it I. Mean really now I'm trying. I just my goal is to get all the stuff off the floor that doesn't belong on the floor. Try that's what's making jozy. Will you've earned it? Is just getting you're getting there well, if you don't take off Phoenix every. Drop of a penny. What you did a great theory is a beautiful little dog. Yes awfully glad that I did that no look you know with the totally behind you you know Randy and I always say you know what we believe that if they could do it for us, they would do it for us so. Does this question they can't they can't help themselves and. We don't value animals lives very much. Where you know here's the it was a person with the tumor. WHO TO BE OLDER? They wouldn't have eighty-six. No, you're right. So this little dog. Yeah, he's fourteen. So Yagi years know quite a senior fellow. But you know he he wants a chance to finish out his doggy life. I was pleased to do it. I really was it was a grueling drive. I drove nine hundred miles. Yes. You know with about a twenty minute break once I got there insane says you're on automatic. On the way back when I was listening to the Beatles channels on Sirius Xm. Okay. Right and yeah, I don't remember getting home. And getting in the house and falling on the bed I don't remember ration. Yeah, and then getting up. In a couple of hours ago through your reporting. Yeah. Yeah you crazy. Well, yeah. But you know what the alternative is. There'd be one less dog on the planet. No I don't I can't live without. No, I'm just listen. More power. I admire very much. Well, it had I gotten sleepy. I would have pulled off at a rest stop I'm not an idiot. Crashed for Awhile I've done that in the past, but this time I kind of zoom through it. So what you do it summer, you can't go to the. Gone to Palm Springs, which you were going to do going in going in August now you're really going to go now. I'm hoping if everything here is copacetic, didn't go see him now I do I want I want to go I'm going to talk to Mel Haber Yeah is he is a an encyclopedia of entertainment and. Drink podcasting what to I know I. Got Stories on new because that one of the place I like to go to is was quite a haunt for Hollywood celebs right through the rat pack days. Really Yeah and he's got stories I WANNA get the story. Right 'cause they're wonderful because you know like everywhere palm springs is changing. Yes it is and the last time I went through there about a year ago. I could not believe my eyes because a massive block of quaint little stores. is now a mega three? Shopping Mall. And it was like a with neon sign not neon but the. Like jumbo screen signed Oh. Yeah. Right. Led like, Oh, my I know I know it's A. House I know, and so unfortunately, a lot of the little Hollywood related haunts in Palm Springs. Are you know? We set out to do a while ago and we really haven't gotten around so. It's not our fault. We need to take a little talks with John Live. Oh, I now. Well, we we do have date still on the calendar will. Your on your birthday. Is. I know that hasn't been canceled yet with us? Talking about something that's. Consistent I suppose in performing not just a one off. Oh, well yeah. But with everything shut down. Side gets. A. Dream. We could stream it. Starting to film a few bits because you're how many office people there. So excited about the concept of it. Well Yeah. It's just getting bashes I know and I wish there was a way to be able to do it. They do that drive in movie situation. Right is there a way of of being socially? separated. Yeah. We're still you could be in the proximity of an audience, oh? Yeah. You could. You could boy would love our storytelling. Yeah I mean it's just like. Gosh who is who was embarking on a concert at drive in theaters oh they yeah and you. Know. Some country guys are, but it's somebody else can't remember. But Anyway, yeah, you could be live on stage and have them put it up on the big screen to. and every stays in their cars right and you know nowadays, you don't even have to have the speakers you just dial it on your radio. And if you get out of the car to go the go while you can't go to the snack bar but if you want to go to the restroom masculine and Because I realized that the La Wrestle if you're outside is okay yeah. And why and they're doing this thing in la now, we're restaurants can apply to use parking lots. And some of the closed-off streets for added dining space. So why couldn't a stage be set up in the middle of all of this? kind of them say yeah. With the distance factor, right what I'm saying, I mean the world's changing. Basil change with it. You know. What again, it confounds me again. So you can't sit on the beach I know she's outside and way open. But you can sit. In a restaurant situation. Yeah. With all these contaminants and that's okay. No but I get. I saw a picture come on I saw picture of one of the Florida beaches. And people are literally sitting right next to it. But we're not talking about. But I mean if the beaches are open, people aren't going to I'm putting my towel here and you go six feet over there and put your towel there. So packed that everybody's on top of each other. Well, there are no that shouldn't be no they're not using common sense. And I would think that you could probably do the six. Grocery shopping still and. People seat GonNa Pass people and then you can't help it right but you don't gravity don't call for them. You know some of these pictures I've seen John Oh my God I mean I love the beach but it's not worth the risk if that's GONNA go down. You. Know it's crazy. People. Won't. Behave, they just seem to think this is not serious enough and they'd rather risk it. I. Wish there was a way to pull this performance thing off. I don't know how to do it. We'll keep thinking about. Getting itchy. Rallies. To. Lots of. A couple of songs. Yeah. I know you have. An I'm happy about that and I like helping people with their projects but. Used to being out and about everybody is one way I can see it. You know the the traffic. On the street it's back. It's back with a vengeance. Vengeance. Heading out of La to get to bomb springs to get to Phoenix, and I was stuck in traffic jams feminine four months yeah. That was not fun no but I I just again. Caution. You know. Oh. Speaking of which you know Major League Baseball teams just start to practice again well, I saw who was it was the angels who put the put the fake audience. San Francisco the San Francisco giants. Okay. I. Think this is actually brilliant. It was funny to see what they're doing is if you're a season ticket holder, you get it for free. And if you're not a season ticket holder, you can buy a cardboard cutout of yourself for ninety. Nine? Bucks. And they're going to populate the stands with these people and they're going to find you know if there's a play where people are happy they'll find it looks happy in hone in on them, and if the plays a bust for the giants Ahonen somebody who bombed US weird I well, I. Think it's brilliant for the team. Will it certainly gives you something to watch? That's it run. We're going to watch to see themselves right? It gets people back into it even though the season's going to be so short and the new rules are goofy as all get allies. Well, the National League is going to be using the D. H.. Oh No, it designated hitter surely, but here's the one. Every inning starts with a runner at second base. Talks with John Stars Tim Pipers John Lennon and features Tammy tra- heel anders produced for mouthful media by Fabulous Jerome Productions Tim Piper offers up his original songs influenced by his love of the Beatles and John Lennon on his first CD release. 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'Boys and Girl - Tavon Austin Fair Catch Fiasco; Garrett Second Guessing; Week 11 Lions Preview with Detroit Beat Writer Dave Birkett

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'Boys and Girl - Tavon Austin Fair Catch Fiasco; Garrett Second Guessing; Week 11 Lions Preview with Detroit Beat Writer Dave Birkett

"Theodore Roosevelt explored uncharted. Amazon territory helped modernize American football and won a Nobel Peace Prize. I'm Erin McCarthy. Editor in chief of mental floss and the host of history three versus a new podcast that shares the inside stories. Behind some of history's ultimate fighters season one tackles Theodore Roosevelt. Who went head to head with seemingly unbeatable foes like corruption in time and death itself listening? Subscribe on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello Boys and girls welcome in to the boys and girl podcast with cowboys. NFL Network reporter. Jayne Jane Slater and NFL network producer. Bobby Bell Cowboys community with the inside scoop on the Dallas cowboys and now coming straight to you from the lone star state. Here's Jane and Bobby Coach. Did you guys instructive on Austin to fair. Catch the punt at the end. That's it's a situation where the you don't have to answer that question. I'll answer the question. I thought this is absolutely fair. Catch in that situation to return or you know. He has that in his mind and he has an opportunity opportunity to go make a play. We certainly encourage him to do that. You want answers. I think I'm entitled to take you through. Fair catch was very viable option. You can't handle the truth the table on thing. They've gotten caught. We use words like honor process code standard loyalty. Jesse Holly tweeted. He did that he found out. It was Kiko Quinn. The special teams coach who toll table and a fair catch tenant kindergarten code dinnie. Because that's what you told me ten Kendrick to do it was Oh Quinn. Called the Code Fair. Catch will bobby. It was an interesting start to the week following that Sunday. Meltdown in so many questions about take Jackson Garrett and how he handled that game we had him here on Wednesday at the star in Frisco and I went looking for answers. Here's how it went here again. That's something we strive to You know as players and coaches and certainly in my role absolutely You're always try to learn from your experiences. This is in do it really at a high level so have we been perfect every time. No we constantly trying to get better at it absolutely Austin situation to g you guys mismanaged not personally communicating yourself with him play because as he talked to you both the option cash. I don't WanNa get too much into the Minnesota game. I'll address this situation. We should have done a better job communicating kidding with him in that situation air inside a fair catch. Could you don't want to spend a lot of time. You know pulling time off the clock by having a return though they catch a five or six yards so you want to go on with the mindset of fair catch this thing around midfield give ourselves a chance care. The discussion should have been more complete. And saying if you're getting getting a situation where you do have a low kick and you can go north and south quickly gain yardage do that We didn't communicate well with the player. That's on all of us. It's on me it's on Keith. It's on every coach every player involved in that situation. We didn't do a good enough job. I absolutely yeah. He understood who should fair catch in that situation. Did you guys communicate. Yeah communicate directly all right so in the room for that exchange today and who has been following the story line as well as a lot of the Dallas reporters is Dallas Morning News reporter. Michael Elkin the new to the beat this year you can follow him at Gaskin. NFL and I feel the need to spelled out for you at GE H. L. K. E. N. NFL. Well thanks for joining the show. How are you? I'm good. I'm glad I'm part of the cowboys. Beat nobody told me. Was this much fun. It would have been your earlier now for fans who aren't familiar with you. Michael where did you come from. This is my tenth season covering the NFL. My first seven seasons were covering the chargers San Diego and then with their two thousand seventeen eighteen relocation had to go somewhere else. There was not much future being an NFL reporter in a city with an NFL. Team so I started covering the raiders in Oakland. Did that for two plus seasons. was there for some Antonio Brown Fund and then Dallas. Morning News brought me aboard in in August so I mean this all training camp misspoke with the preseason catching up to speed and it's a it's a pleasure to join you thank you for having me Your Glutton for for punishment you went through the chargers ordeal and then Oakland Raiders and Antonio Brown and now all of this. What do you make will start with today? What did what did you make of Jason Garrett in the issue of accountability this week well on the outside I should say okay? I think being the Dallas Cowboys head coach comes with inherent challenges. where it's a little different here? You have the owners on the radio twice a week. You have his Sunday. Vp who is on the radio twice a week and you as a head coach coming Munaf of the Sunday night game are on the radio. Monday morning and Without getting ahead of ourselves in terms of accountability I think he's He's done a pretty good job of taking. They can sure that he says is on me. I'm head coach. He takes pride in. Doing that seems a habit for him to do that but when he was asked about a fair catch on Monday morning after a Sunday game. I don't think he had all the information when asked and so his is answer. There I think is one that he was kind of set up to fail. He didn't handle that as well as I think he handled it later in that press. Uh early later on Monday at a press conference setting certainly as well as he handed on Wednesday today that was my takeaway Michael because when we had that walk off with him you know He. We sort of walked him through this and I wanted to make it a point to Jason that the reason why I was asking the questions is so often. The National Media Media Will Hurl Molotov cocktails in the direction of this organization and few of them pick up the phone and actually talk to the people. Involved it's really easy to do it from afar right and so I take this beat pretty seriously and I try to be as responsible of Reporter as possible. And you know after Jesse. I broke news that it was Keith. Quinn That actually she made this call. Not Giving on Austin the option to fair catcher decide to run this north and south and I heard that players were frustrated with this. I felt like it was important to sort of get to the bottom of it and my sense was the same as yours in. It's it's a quick turnaround. All this sort of a little groggy after a night. Game when you're on the radio and you're not only getting asked about that but the second and third the third in two wanted you kick the fifty seven yard field goal to open up the game. He had a lot of questions that he was Having to address but I thought by four o'clock he should of at least had a few more answers especially Michael when I asked him was. Was this situation. Where Kiva Queens not on the headset talking to the head coach during this that you didn't run down there in talk to about this? A crucial play. That could've you've sort of your Hell Mary in this game and he said Keith Aucoin was standing right next to me. I thought that was interesting. That then it took him time to go to a meeting. I talked to him and then he finally caught up with Tehran. And even we brought it to his attention today. He didn't seem to understand the weight of putting this on tape. Avon in the sense that option if it wasn't for the radio interview on Monday this landscape of this topic is different and and Garrett during that money interview and I know in the intro which was awesome by the way during the radio interview indicated that Tehran when also had some license on that play fair. Catch it or not. You have the ability to make a decision to fair. Catch it or if you think there to go north to go straight ahead do it. I mean I talked to take on on Monday. And he said no I was told fair. Catch he said that he didn't even look to see. Where are you know with the proximity was of the nearest cover man to him as a returner because he knew what his responsibility was on that play which was to waive his hand and signal fair? Catch that's interesting. And he didn't say much more. We caught up with him. Today here was our exchange with John Austin in the locker room apothecary. Play Fair Fair Instruction Highland today windy. I'm talk about it. Did you straighten situation undone. Talk about the cowboys Burton Burton. I'm done with that. Garrett did tell us that he had a conversation with you. Do you at least feel comfortable with that conversation -sation and what was discussed W underwood it in between him and again I just want it for the fancier others thinking that we're getting into the minutia of this. I want to explain why I think this is important. Tape on Austin is beloved in that Locker Room. He sort of like this team mascot in a sense that everyone I'm and I was told that everyone on defense offense loves that guy and there were a lot of guys that put their hands up and said that losses on me. I should have done this. I should have done that. And while we were listening to Jason Garrett over the course of Sunday night and Chew Radio Interviews on Monday it seemed like he was the only one that wasn't really putting his hand up now we miscommunicated at the end. Fine I just and he said it today and tip of the hat to him. Perhaps he didn't make it clear enough and I think he made it clear enough today but my concern was when I was covering this and talking to people these players have stood on the table for Jason Garrett and I believe that's why Jason Garrett through all the twists and turns here in Dallas has maintained his job. You lose that locker room you have a problem and if you start throwing players under under the bus in call a player out. When he's messed up we saw that with Trista and hill? We saw that when Antoine Woods was late to the meeting. But in a situation where you've told a player to do something and he's taken a hit to me. It doesn't matter the outcome of the game whether that would have translated into anything. That would've been a win. Loss is to me not important what what is important to me is. You can't have coach throwing a player under the bus in what I wanted to hammer out today and I think we got to the bottom of. I think he inadvertently did it. I think Gary Speed on the radio he says you know. There's some licensed there that team in Austin you can return or not return then Garrett learned over the course of the day because I game. Oh when I said you know to Keith. Okay and what I was looking for in terms of how I wanted to save on to handle this punt return cave on did not get that message so Garrett learns that after the radio interview he probably should have. I think this is kind of the point here based on how he representative situation publicly earlier that day when he had his next opportunity to speak about it publicly. After having spoken to save on having spoken to Keith. o'quinn having spoken to two other special teams coaches. He all he said was. There was miscommunication on the sideline I think indicating. I took from it that there was a coaching issue. But you probably WANNA be more direct after having said what you said in the morning just to make sure. It's clear that table and did what he was coached to do. You and we as a staff did not properly convey our expectations on that play to him. What's up everyone? I'm willful in senior writer and producer for thrillers. Some amazing podcast news. We just launched our very first podcast thrill his best and the rest West every week. You can hear me and my amazingly talented colleagues talk about the best of the best in food drink travel and entertainment like what's the best city bar hop in what's what's the best thing to order a Taco Bell. What's the Best Pixar movie? Listen to thrill his best and the rest you get an inside look at how we make our list rank our ranks and figure you're out what's the best of the best in the things that really matter. Consider this your escape from the cold cold tune in on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. or or wherever you listen to podcasts. I also think that part of this was just a miscalculation on Jason Garrett's part as to I think think he was trying to protect everybody involved in a you know he didn't WanNa throw Keith Oakland under the bus. I don't think he wanted to throw anybody under the bus and so I think probably when he looked at it he stepped up there for that that afternoon press conference I could see him thinking of it as it's it saves everyone. If you just say we communicated what's best and then take on on just made the call and did and I don't think he'd quite thought through how that would then shift blame to Avon. I think he just thought we gave them the option and he made the decision he thought was best. I don't think he thought of it in those terms as it was thrown under the bus. But you gotta remember he's not talking about Tony Pollard. Not Running back a kickoff return talking about six seven year veteran. Dede Eighty Westbrook in Jacksonville. Wears eleven and you know told everybody that the reason why he wore eleven or whatever it was Taylor in Austin that he looked up stave on Austin and that was it so he's got a lot of respect in the league with players. I I honestly think it was just a miscalculation I. I'm sure there's some hurt feelings in general on a roll with a lot of people in Austin on Monday looked upset like look to bugged when when we saw him in the locker room. He didn't talk much. And so I I think it was just kind of a miscalculation the miscommunication that happened on the field seem to kind of carry over into the locker room this week in terms of how then dealt with it and I think that airing this out a little bit hopefully will help them move on from it but I think it was that there was a lot that they can learn here for future scenarios goes and Michael. I WanNa get your sense on this. I'm not saying that the guys haven't taken losses seriously in the past but this feels heavier this week even talking talking to Charles. Frederick today talking Zeke it just it feels heavier is that your takeaway. I Yeah I think that's that's fair. That's fair that's a fair way to describe it. I hadn't really thought about it much in terms of the term and I was kind of think about the field. They're Yeah and I wonder if it's because of how they lost. It was a little bit of a reversal there where they weren't the most physical team on the field where it was the other team that was pounding the run ten three times in the second half down their throat on touchdown drive they were not in sync. It's not just like execution where you know it gets the jets. You know you have a quarterback who bites on the double move and safeties isn't the right depth to help Over the top. It's it's this you know we're talking about a fair catch. We've you know there's a miscommunication before the play then even the next day some communication that that we're discussing there's ten men on the field on the first quarter Dolphin Cook. You can see Jalen. Smith is aware of it. Certainly late in Vander herash aware of it. There's no three technique cowboys or four man. Front four three team and yet they have three down linemen no timeout again. Giving up a thirty yard. Play on Dr Culminates in a touchdown. And by the way rubber gets flagged for a fourteen yard rough in the past one of the play and these things matter and so for that again. I think just the way that they lost to it was it was unusual game you know. We've we've talked about number of losses. Is this season. This was her fourth but the way that they lost. The conversation today is much different than it has been in those other three. I think this is This is a very similar feeling to me as it was around the time last year when they made the move and they fired pollock Zander and they traded for Mark Cooper that is around this time. Eight Games in the year where it was just Kinda like man that seems bleak and then they put it together and they go on that run and everything's alright i. I wonder if maybe the weight of this is just sticking with them a little bit. Because it's like we know there's no Amari Cooper trade coming in here to save us this time around. This is just. We're not weird dropping the ball we're leading ourselves down. I think after the Philly game when DAX stood up there instead. We're GONNA handle success better this time around. And you know this isn't going to be an issue and we'RE GONNA couple of games in a row and then the first contender they face and it's the same issues. I just think there's the weight of this may be just a little looking internally at themselves and saying man maybe we're not the team we thought we were and I would ask you. Hi this. Is John Machado this week. earlier I said. Do you think this team has good players. I do. I think it's I think it's a top five roster in terms of talent as individual players. Now they meshes. The team is another thing all right some alleged another path Jason Garrett. This week said that he wasn't calling the place that was killing more Rod Marinelli and per short or handling the defense. He said he had nothing to do with the special teams stuff essentially even though he said he could have done a better job at the accountability aspect of this and so my question is if they're not getting ready to go early in the game and their they're getting behind. What is Jason Gary Doing? And I say this as someone who was defended Jason over the years I believe that the the guys respect him. They liked the process. They like the consistency but when he was answering some of these questions on Monday I found myself going. So what is Jason Doing. Yeah it's it's tough because this league is a week to week. We're not that far removed from what they did against the eagles in prime time were and then that was the best example of a fast start. There have been too few of them to your point. This overall week-to-week inconsistency and we talked about the play where they had ten minutes on the field that contributed to you know quote unquote slow start and those types of things were Christian Comington. I talked to him today. And he he said he was running on the field by Renault Huddle he didn't see anybody rotate off. Apparently Lyman rotated off by running around the offense and so you didn't wasn't his direct line as those that are happening at. It's hard to say that you know that's Jason Garrett's fall but certainly the fact that they didn't call timeout. Your your procedures should be in place. If you're facing a team you're there in the no huddle you got ten field in every play counts. Yeah I think that does point to coaching. So it's it's hard to make a for me especially without the the reference point of previous seasons. Ah someone WHO's on his first year so I'm just taking game by game. That's why I think you're interesting because we've got our jaded beat writers that we've had this guy that's coming from the outside looking in so I have to be frank I before I got here was aware of just a general temperature surrounding Jason Jason Garrett here where you know the I I could hear from Oakland before I made the drive to Dallas the beating of the drum of Jason Garrett its potential firing and that's been beating for for years here but I didn't know firsthand and and I've wanted to wait and see for myself what exactly the coaching situation is and overall. I've been impressed by Jason Garrett. I think he doesn't excellent job of managing gene people. That's something that I heard from former colleagues before I got here. He's extremely adept at just managing people that being said. I thought this was the first game that I've covered where it just seemed like. Number of areas were mismanaged related to situations on the fly a game management and then ultimately he kind of how to handle you know the press and play relation as related to take on. which are things that matter when you're the cowboys head coach again empathize with the challenge? Orange of Sunday night game Monday morning. Talk that's not something. A lot of head coaches do around the league is talking so soon after a Sunday night game and think it's a little unfair. I forget who was unaware of time. That Austin didn't get the message that Garrett wanted to be received the for fair catch possibly returning that so I don't know I think it's it's it's it's one game of the nine that they've had but to me. This is the one where it just seemed like coaching was at the forefront of some of what went wrong here and I wonder if you know when we're talking about how weighty this law says 'cause it's it's like you said colleagues telling you the Jason Garrett specially as as a people people manager and and just a steady hand and you know they talk so much about the process and you know routine and getting into those things and because he is such a steady and I wonder if that's why this loss isn't so join is because the area Jason Garrett usually is so steady he's kind of dropped the ball this week and so it just kind of leads to some you know just general instability among the personnel. I mean that's not unusual. You know when dad comes home and you're used to dad being a certain way and then he loses his temper on Ligament Atkinson the kids kind of like. What's going on at least a little unsettling feeling i? I just wonder if maybe that's also got something to do with it or you know. This team knows their results. And we talk about how much Jason Garrett means a lot of these players their results are going to directly affect Jason Garrett's future and what his job status and so I wonder if the weight of that and the more they lose these games in the further longest getting the season and they're feeling the weight of we're starting to jeopardize his job. And we went to Travis Frederick Ashton very specifically about that. Here's what he had to say crafts. I ask you this because you're one of the veterans on the team but fair unfair and losses. Coaching quarterback typically take a lot of heat on Monday. Jason here at this fair unfair as a player Kazakh. Around to Chris's so I don't. I don't know exactly what was said there and I. I think it's unfair. Generally to single anyone in this game. I think it's unfair to to single coaches out. I think it's unfair to single players out. I think it's unfair to single single groups. Offense Offense Defense special teams team game Team extends to more than just the players Extend more than just the coaches. It's everybody that's the front office. It's it's it's the whole deal and When you have losses in when you have winds that are good you know what it comes down to everybody? It comes down to everybody working together. Everybody communicating. Well Everybody doing their particular job and Sometimes breakdowns having because people are trying to do other people's jobs too. It's not necessarily that. People are slacking off for not doing their job. John Wall. Sometimes the problem is that you're trying to do too much and I think we've seen that I don't know if necessarily this game but throughout the course of the season you see that people want so bad that you try and do something You do something wrong because you're trying to do too much and help too much so it's a little bit. 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Or wherever you listen to podcasts you brought this up to your perception of Jason Garrett based on what everyone has told you and being an outsider writer and then your perception of him coming into the building when he was in that walk off today and we continue to sort of ask him all these questions I respect about him is that he answered them. Not all coaches do the walk off Nano coaches have to sit there and answer some reporter's questions about how he handled a gay right. I think that's what I respect about them. And I think that's always the hard thing for me is when people say well you know. Get rid of Jason People wanted his head and and I think a lot of people misinterpreted that exchange that I had with them today. I actually wanted to give him the opportunity to do what I I knew. He would have done. Normally what I've come into now is take accountability for situations and something that he didn't do on Monday and that was perplexing to me. Yeah I think he just missed. Read the situation on Monday in terms of not just misreading what they've on understood to be the circumstance in terms of supposed to do as a as a returner but misreading how it had been perceived achieved not just by fans the fact that Garrett said one thing on Monday morning then table and it's it's something different but in the locker room you know when you see you know as a player as a teammate. How does the situation and what he was told what he says he was told? And then you hear the head coach say something that isn't representative of that. There's description that can come from that and that can be a problem. I thought in the walk off that we had with Jason Garrett. He was adamant. Blame me. Bolt is on me if I he said if I created any other impression than I'm the one responsible that's on on me but let me be clear it's it's me and so I thought the accountability you characterizing I. I heard that too felt that to that that was something that Garrett Garrett if that was an earlier this week that would be a problem to him because he understands how important the locker room is to him. He's been NFL coach. Far Too Lon- air air and player to think anything less in. So that would be misstep that he does not want to take and so he wants it out there that it's on on me and I. It drives me nuts because I know the fans like I said they only were able to see a moment of that exchange. But I'm that's why I want you here. You were there for that. It felt authentic to me. It didn't feel like a guy that felt like he was covering his tail. After the fact it felt authentic. No and I think another thing to point out here is when he resigned this off season. That was a little surprising to me. I didn't know where exactly he fit in on this team. Then he ends up making the fifty three again and I remember. I texted somebody somebody. After that had happened I was. You know surprised Avon's back and they texted back and they said juice and then they set a Fox and they said Jason loves US juice. Jason even save on Austin's attitude you know usually you'll get a starter called up to lead the jumping. Jacks he calls he loves Vons Energy. Everybody in that locker loves the energy he is. It's not so much. I don't think he doesn't feel I think he's a glue guy and so. I don't think you know for those who wonder about this. I don't think Jason Ever wanted I. I think it was just a screw up and I don't think Jason Ever wanted to do anything to you know. Throw one of his glue guys under the bus. I think that's one of the last people that locker. He'd WanNa do that too because he does have such a respect for what he brings to the locker room culture and also the fact that he is one of the few veteran players in that locker. And there's a lot of guys on their rookie contracts on that Locker Montauban Austin's been league six seven years now and Jason is a longtime. NFL Guy. Somebody who's been in the league grown up around the league everything like that. I think he knows better than that. And so I'm sure he's kicking himself well now that we've spent most of our time with you on the controversy. That wasn't the controversy controversy. Your thoughts on this team heading into the weekend especially when we look at more injuries to this offensive line kind of the surprise injury to Connor Williams on on Monday and having arthroscopic surgery got Xavier. Suwa feel filling in but lingering issues for Zack Martin Collins. Yeah and we're going to see over the course of the week peak what these guys can do on Friday. We'll learn what their game status as our for Sunday versus the lines but this is a band up unit regardless you lose Connor Williams. I'M NOT GONNA say that's not lost. That would be not be respectful of a second-year player who's grown a lot. Since last year's gone a lot stronger who's interested in the game is getting better. But he's still a fairly employer whose this combo blocks or other aspects of. It hasn't quite been as consistent as a cowboys would want in. So I'm eager to see what Xavier's who feel makes of this opportunity. Unity started several games last season eager to see how he does here. So that I think is going to be interesting to watch and it might not just be this this game coming off an east coast could be multiple games. That's fair to expect. And then Zack Martin. He's been invaluable but you see what he's been battling through. It's it's been pretty constant if it's not the back it's the ankle of it's not the ankle. He brings up his right elbow in the fourth. Quarter does not miss a single snap. He is. He's a rock to that unit. Travis Frederick T mobile unit but as actors just so steady and then lyle collins the back. There's been an issue for him all year. So we'll see what these guys do but at least Cam Fleming is back calf issue. I leak came during a by why we practice when it was just the lightest can be cooper rush and all these starters are Alan Cooper Russia's leading the first team offense and then you you hear that Cam Front Fleming coming an Emirati today today of all days the calf injury. He misses most games. So you know for the cowboys sake. Hopefully they're not without their right tackle if they are certainly helps having campaigned back in the mix. I heard that was Keith. Oh Quinn's fault walking door yeah. WH- it's fun fact about Keith Oakland. I really respect to getting to know am I did a jeff article and he was fantastic talking about you know just such an under appreciated guy in this building building just the way people value him in there was an onsite kick playoff game last season and he suffered a shoulder injury on it because player collided into him. I remember that offseason surgery. Yeah they they know Knowledge Bob they've they've they've had bad. They've had bad luck with coach Personnel Andrews. Because you remember a couple of years ago we had will mcclay towards acl. I waitressed also Keith. o'quinn collided with him Keith Quinn was on the sideline he got collided into. And Quinn had the search. Yeah and so. That's a pretty sure misrepresented It was totally. It was like a conversation off the record. Obviously but like we're talking. Yeah he got he got up on on that final question for you here is. We're just wrapping up a Given your impressions of this team through the first several weeks that you've been out here and your read on this team DNA and their mental makeup sitting here at five and five the things you know outside of just this issue that has come up with Tavon just the way things are playing out on the field do you think they can make this a rallying point for themselves and come together go on around the rest of the season or or is this not the type of makeup you think. Is this the type of team. Basically I guess that will wilt or you can come together and try and use this as a rallying colleen point for themselves. I don't know if this will be the source of the rally in terms of that game reading aspects of it but I think they know what time it is where you are our team that's been inconsistent now for a couple of months you've got five wins and you're tied in the NFC with an eagles team that has seen et December schedule murder Israel for the for the cowboys for the eagles. They have three games against the giants and Redskins in a game against the dolphins. And then play these guys week. Sixteen so if the cowboys are probably the best chance of Philadelphia going five no in December and so. Oh you've gotta get hot You WanNa play your best football in in November December time is now and so I think that is. Maybe you would get guys going just knowing. It's time to show up like you had maybe coaching here. But it's certainly been miss execution there air a whole lot of that. It's time to get this thing going because the eagles they're going to win some games might not be this week against the Patriots or next week against the seahawks. But after that they're going and you guys have botched opportunity. We as locker room the they should feel have botched opportunities to provide separation to this point. So you got to get going now. But I'm telling you you haven't covered this team a lot but it's a very cowboys thing to do to make the easy part hard and the hard part the Patriots by three touch. This is the type of team that it would not surprise me if they were capable of turning this thing around so I'm not ruling anything out also but this definitely feels like they are in the trenches right now appreciate your time and again if you WANNA follow go ahead and give your twitter handle so I'll have spell it out again in the NFL. G. H. H is tricky L. K. E. N.. We appreciate you so much jumping on here. You can follow him on twitter for all of his content on Dallas Morning News and we hope to have you back anytime they some of us. Nineteen Forty one eight date which will live in infamy. The United States of America was suddenly deliberately. Giant's game say Japanese. Wow next door neighbor Joe. Dennis Cook on a destroyer station the Pearl Harbor but his ship was out to see when it happened and he says I'm leaving. I gotta go back to Hawaii. Then we find out that he was killed. When Pearl Harbor on the Arizona another my classmates some over eighteen so they joined the service remember Pearl L.? Harbor Remember Pearl Harbor. Not What your country can do for you. We honor our veterans Gold Star family members on service stories of hunger anger and war and Iheartradio podcast. You can listen to now on apple. podcasts the iheartradio APP and everywhere. You find your favorite podcasts vessel. I remove a role Yvonne joining us. Now is Dave Birkett. Dave is the Detroit. Lions beat writer for the Detroit. Free press he is also okay pro football hall of fame writer. You can follow him on twitter at Dave Birkett. Dave how you doing today. I'm doing great. How are you guys doing great? So the top- topic on everybody's mind. Oh you were out at practice on Wednesday is Matthew Stafford out there practicing. How's he looking And what do you think the odds of him actually playing. Yeah I think the ADS. There are probably pretty slim right now. Stafford did not practice on Wednesday You Know Matt. Patricia did not offer update. Whether he's GonNa practice later this week. You you know. He sorta said that they would Review that as as the week went on earlier this week but look he's dealing with broken bones in his back and last week doctors wouldn't clear to play. They said it wasn't safe. They didn't really determine the The exact extent of his injury until Friday after practice. I just have a hard time believing the week later. It's going to be safe for him to play. The lions have a big investment. Made a Matthew Stafford and certainly he wants to be out there but they're not going to take any risks with their quarterback. We talked out to Matt Patricia. Here on this Dallas Media Call and I asked him what does Matt Stafford Bring to. The football filled me said phenomenal player extremely tough. His confidence elevates the play of others. So what is Jeff Driscoll the backup bring to this offense. He's still a bit of a mystery. I mean look. He's only been in counter for two months. This is a guy that you know we started with with the forty niners spent the last couple of years with the bengals made five starts here this year in you know really when when the the lions brought him on board after he was released. Leased by the Bengals We kinda just chuckled. At first because he's seven different backup quarterback that the lines have had in town so it was sort of a situation where are either. They're trying out another one. Let's see what he can do. But I'll say this for for Jeff Bliscoll. He's the guy that he adds a little different element to the offense in terms of his his athleticism saw last week that he could run the football a little bit alliance kept role in the pocket out trying to give him some extra time utilize his his strengths. Athlete so oh I think the you know the offense will be about the same with Jeff Your skull at quarterback but just tweaked a little bit too to fit some skill set. Now take me. Take me back for fans and aren't familiar. You said seven backup quarterback what timeframe all right so. We're talking. Since the end of last year they signed Connor Cook as a futures guy they brought in Tom Savage in the off. Season those guys but most of the off season with them traded for David Blau. WHO's the number three quarterback right at the roster cut day they also Had Josh Johnson in here briefly in Luis Perez briefly for less than a week Peres was but really this is an issue that the lions if known for a long time. Nine that they've they've had some issues. The backup quarterback spot. They kicked the tires on some different. Backups this off season didn't have the money that you know they that it was going to be necessary to. They go out and spend and sign a veteran so they've been looking for an answer for that backup quarterback position knowing that Matthew had some back problems last year despite being an argument knowing that they wanted to upgrade that that situation in really they didn't find an upgrade. I guess until Jeff Driscoll came apart in September I saw. Oh you tweet that They're actually Matt. Patricia confirmed that they are going to be present for the workout of Colin Kaepernick. This weekend Do you think that's a legitimate avenue. They might right explorer if Matthew Stafford's out for an extended period of time you know I. I don't color me skeptical on that one. I guess not just you know. They've they've had opportunity eight assignment before they've shown no interest in before Certainly Colin Kaepernick skillset bite fit. They're devils offense. A little bit more with the you know the athleticism he brings to the position but you know number one. I think you know Stafford will be back here in a manner of leaks probably not this week but maybe before the end of the and then to this is just an organization. That doesn't like to deal with any type of distraction and For Whatever you think about Colin Kaepernick as a player. There's there's no doubt that off the field the amount of television cameras yvonna questions everything that would come with signing Colin Kaepernick. They view that as a distraction. So I don't think got the lion's Japanese will be a fit at the end of the day so wild when you consider seven different backup quarterback Jeff Driscoll's guy and you've got an a workout with a guy that that was a starter in this league and says he's still working out you know that's an issue that I think a lot of teams are bringing up not unique to Detroit or it. So let's talk about this team and maybe this isn't a fair your question for you but in the absence of Matthew Stafford. Obviously you've got jeff driscoll starting but it seems like the cowboys in Detroit are similar in the sense of. What is this esteem? Yeah you know that's a question we've been asking what the lions really since the start of the season because you know we all went into the year thinking that this was going to be a really good defensive eighteen and the way they finished last season they were one of the best run defenses in the NFL over the final eight weeks of the season really. After acquiring Damon Harrison. They went out and spent pig. Trey flowers this off season brought back to time pro Bowler Darius slay if there were any questions about the offense and it's really been the complete opposite staffer effort until he got hurt was playing at a really high level this year. Obviously Kenny Gallery Martin. Jones have a big ears at the things at the lines have been able to run. The ball stopped the run. Really really stop anything at defense. And and that's the head scratcher so I think there's you know there's probably some legit reasons for that. Just some of the injuries have had on defense and and the slow start that some other key defensive linemen got off to just because they were. They didn't take part in training camp and they were dealing with injuries. A lot of the summer but Really that's that's been the most puzzling thing about this. Lions team is why they haven't been able to get things done defensively in for that matter why they haven't been able to get a running game either though with with Tyrian Johnson out right now. That's I think that's less of a less of an issue. I think everyone understands that. They're SORTA dealing playing from behind the eight ball there when it it comes to running the football. Do you think there's any benefit at all here just in the last couple of minutes that we have Do you think there's any benefit at all. Four Detroit that while they may be playing with the backup quarterback quarterback and while there may be some struggles on defense. There is at least maybe this advantage of you. Know Bev's familiarity with what Chris Rashard likes to do on the defensive side of the ball all having both of them Ben in Seattle you know I don't I don't really buy that. I mean I think it cuts both ways. You know Chris Obviously Notes Daryl to look you know if you don't have your starting quarterback back you know maybe last week maybe the lions bears a little bit off guard early Not Not knowing what to expect with whichever school at quarterback but we saw they make as quick adjustments. I mean the lions got off to a real quick start drove down the field for a long field goal drive in then they could move all much after that until the very end of the game so oh I don't think so I think yes these coordinators know each other fairly well. It's certainly the lines. Cowboys played each other last year so from a personnel standpoint. They know each other but to me the cowboys are just a better team right now. Healthier better overall. Obviously it's insane. We're doing this interview with you. In a lot can change by the time we get not playing on Sunday. But if you had to realistically put your pulse on players we can expect players. We can't expect who would they be. Yeah I mean again I I. Don't I think Matthew Stafford will play You know I think probably better off better bet than we see him later this month. You know the the other injuries I guess for the lines. They've got a couple of guys. Concussion Protocol evernote with that but the lions history has certainly been. That guy's coming off concussions. Get the next week off. That's tied Johnson. The rookie WHO's replaced Kerryon Johnson as a starting running back in the right tackle Rick Wagner so I would expect it either one of those guys plays Tracy Walker. Their best. Safety is missed. The last two games with a knee injury did not practice on Wednesday. Probably going to be another week or so before we see him. The defensive line is a little more of a question Royal Warrant Sean. Hamco suffered injuries as a week or so ago The lines are really thin on the defensive line without those guys. I think we could see one of those guys back But we'll see later in the week as they get back the practice and see how with hand. It's an ankle with groin especially enhance case. We'll see how that ankle that ankle dozen if he can get for something one of the things we like to do here on the show is we like like to bring you the best beat reporters from the markets that the cowboys are squaring off against that week and there is no doubt the burke is that guy in Detroit so if you are out there and wanting to keep tabs on the lions this week day follow on social media at Dave Bergot day we appreciate it just so much you guys will see on Sunday. Thanks much okay so this is just the latest. It is upcoming here. The latest in a long line of biggest game of the year for the cowboys coming up here against the lions and the players seemed overly overly overall pretty calm. You know there is a little bit of. They understand the weight of where they're at right now but I think overall they're not panicking and it was funny Jordan Jordan Lewis very clearly heard. The Fan reaction didn't quote anybody but had just tweeted out. y'All lame as hell for panicking like this which is pretty funny idea what the Fans Vance do see. That's what that's what cowboys media does. It's the norm and so actually I know you got a chance to talk to Jordan Lewis about in the locker room to the world. Sky's calling when it comes to this team you're on social media and you said your name is health talking like this. Why was that important for you to get put that out there to fans it was? It was just frustrated. You know just understanding. We don't want us to play. It's not like we plan out there going around and doing many playing find out. It's kind of hard for them to say I guess watching to say just subjectively say stuff like that about US assembled. It's kind of hard Talionis. Locker Room is what right now. airplay honestly execute and do what we do. We can't be consistent. And that's what does betty as understand that that has to come to you. Know within us so Zagla you gotta go during the so no need for panic. According to Jordan Lewis all right but the cowboys and lions do have some similarities in their struggles. This season Combined Dallas and Detroit Reut six zero this year against the NFC east but are two nine and one against everyone else. So something's gotTa give and you know the give doesn't go the cowboys way. He's going to get ugly. And we're GONNA have another fire podcasts. If if it's to follow the trend there that undefeated against the NFC east and just two wins against than Dallas would have have to lose to Detroit this week. If we're just GONNA follow that that we're going to end on a positive note here body you know. You're you're great. You do awesome some things listener. We appreciate I don't know like I. I can't spend positive. It's been a dreary week. I'M NOT GONNA lie. It's been a dreary week here at the star but I do. You've asked Michael that earlier you know. Do you think this is the team that can rally around. I really do believe team's ability to rally around each other You know their brotherhood that they have and so I think they'll do it. I I think they'll beat Detroit. And then when they beat Detroit. Everybody'll be you know with this all long forgotten about focusing on New England and the forecast and Frisco on Monday when I get back here from Detroit mostly sunny and sixty eight degrees. Let's hope so. Is The pod today. Windy what's up. I'm wilfling from thrill us with some amazing podcast news. We just launched our very first. podcast cast thrillers. Best and the rest every week. You can hear me and my amazingly talented colleagues talk about the best of the best food drink travel and entertainment from the scariest movie of all time to the best hangover cure. 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Cold Weather Horse Care Woes, Kissing Spines Research for Feb 17, 2021 by State Line Tack

"This is the horse radio network four horses in the morning. A you're listening to the number one horse podcast in the world. Here's your entertaining. Look at the world and the people in it. Good morning i'm jacqueline burke from ocala florida and i'm jamie jennings and you're not from cala. We'll get to that. And i'm in norman oklahoma where it snowed a foot last night. You're listening to horses in the morning on the horse radio network for february seventeenth episode twenty-six twenty one brought to you today by state. Line tack a good morning horse world. It's wednesday morning. That means jamie and glen are back to talk horses with all of you. Well let's be honest. Jamie talks horses. Glenn is just here to hassle jamie. Enjoy the show glenn. Absolutely because i have jacqueline here. That's right jackal in burke. She says she's from ocala. She's actually just in ocala. Because tell everybody where you are from. And what's going on to your house right now. I am actually from maryland right outside. Dc and there is supposedly going to be about a foot of snow at my house today. So i got out of dodge The beginning of february and have been in ocala for few weeks and left the horse husband at home. Yeah yeah so you left. The horse has been at home with how many horses we had. Seventeen when i left but if you went to owners and i brought three down with me so i think there's twelve at home right now my god. Do you know what would happen to me if i left. Twelve horses at home with my husband. I it there'd be some there'd be injuries to everybody. I mean to both parties like horses in husband there would be. There'd be a problem. Plus when i came home he would be got so like. How are you doing this. I mean i haven't gone home yet so he might be gone when i get home. We're not sure yet. But i did get flowers on valentine's day which i thought was very kind. He is to be fair. He's not totally taking care of the farm. We do have a barn manager. Works for us. And you know the borders are all there and stuff but he has been doing daily night checks so we gotta give him major props for that. Okay good now. Did you tell me something about your barn manager. While gone or yeah. Yeah so she actually So i laughed at the end of january. So i've had a girl who worked for me almost two years and she actually got engaged last night. So congratulations to her. So she's actually leaving. Before i get home so it's been a little crazy josh. Oh okay so you've got a burn miniature that basically quit before you got home. You've got your husband there'd be you've got employees said that's a good thing. Is this something typical that you do. Every february is go down to florida. Came down last year for three weeks. with two horses I've gone between aken florida. I don't know forever just kind of depending on like horses competition schedule. So it's really nice to just try and get like some training and possibly like some competitions Before it gets crazy and honestly just to kind of focus on myself a little bit So yeah but it's not it's kind of been hit or miss the last few years Yeah but i out of the two. Which if i have to pick between aken and ocala. I'm going with a gallic. His aitken can be iffy all all the time whether wise. Yeah a few. So i went to the university of south carolina so we were like an hour north of agin so basically for like four years. I just lived in south carolina. But i remember one year we went to pine top. And it snowed. We got six or seven inches of snow in. They plowed the cross country. Course for us to ride. That's crazy. I would like to tell you that. That's probably the year that i lived in southern pines because i didn't own a car. All i owned was a bicycle. And have you ever had to bike through sixty seven inches of snow on like in a pasture like i lived in one place in the place. I worked with two farms over. So they're behind us. So i bike you know what struggles it's those are the stories that make us who we are. They going to school uphill both ways in the snow. You know that can thing so tell us a little bit about your horses. And you're writing your vendor correct. Yup yup i haven't reiner so i have Three competition horses right now. I have a horse who Is running at the preliminary level. Hopefully he'll do some stuff. This year i had a coming six year old. That's lovely that. I got from ireland. Hopefully he'll also do some. Fbi stuff this year. And then i have 'nother off the track thoroughbred i call him my five star wannabe. Who are he's absolutely. The most freakish talented of creatures i ever had the pleasure of owning but man. Is he difficult. So he He's been going beginner novice slash novice and he either wins on like a twenty four or something or he gets eliminated because he windy naughty. But i think we've turned a corner the last few months so and actually i'm not gonna lie. He has been the best of the three boys down here. The other two have been a little difficult. This one's just being a rockstar. So yeah so. He's been fun when you say they've been difficult. What do you mean. Oh god all right so quick so the won the preliminary horse is a big off the track thoroughbred. he's like seventeen to in all honesty. He's way too big for me But he's he's actually really nice but he gets very spooky and he. Even i think he's nine. He just acts like he's feral sometimes so we took him to like jumper show at Welcome in a couple of days ago and you would have thought the worst had never been to a horse show in its life. He was like spooky and everybody and it was just like i was totally that girl. I had to go in the ring multiple times all the other professionals. There were like you took jacqueline. You can go in again and then. He's like spooking in. The dress is and the jumping and when he so big that when he like gets rigid and his body he literally just flings himself over jumps so he can have four rails down or he can have a clean around. So you never really know what you're going to get but you make up for his naughty behavior. On saturday. he finished ocala and went double clear cross country around modified so that was good in her. Yeah but then the other one toed We call him towed the irish source. He's we come. The honey badgers while because he just doesn't give a about anything and he has been bucking a lot like. We can't decide if it's behavior all or tim just being naughty and irish and dutch. All in one So i mean. I got like talked to my dressage test. They were like to seat duck like this normally. I'm like yeah. I mean all the vets look at him. He's like oh well maybe he's just a bucker then so well. That sounds fun yes. So he's having a more vet appointments this week but Poor guy but he's just a lot. I do think part of it is definitely. He's just irish and dutch. So and It does two worlds are fighting amongst themselves inside his head. yes yes. He needs to learn to identify where he's gonna identify with himself. That's good yeah ya well jacqueline what we do usually sorry. We usually get two things a little quicker. But i'm just enjoying talking to you. I'm so what we do is a daily winnie's and then we you know what i need to tell. Everybody wants on today. Show one of our listeners. Just really going through a problem right now with kissing spines and i know you have a lot of experience with it. And i've had worked with a couple horses that ended up having it and the we're gonna talk to dr brookes about kissing spines and the research that they did that. I didn't even know you were a part of it. I did so when we get into that. I had a horse. Then we sent I don't know if everybody's seen this. But they were asking for basically like hair samples and x-rays for both horses who had been diagnosed with casino. Fine and then those. Who had it. So i sent a couple of our horses in the barn their samples. I guess you can say so. We'll find out a little bit later on what they found and all of that. That was nice of you. Participate and tastic job now. Do you have a daily weenie. Oo alright my buddy you got a press. The button got hit the button. Now you go okay got it so my daily winnie goes to scan cheesy but i guess it has to go to my horse husband mike. Thanks for taking care of the farm. Can't wait to go to florida next year. Maybe you wanna come with like i'm going somewhere. I know this florida. But i'm going somewhere. He'll get my daily winning today. I was smart. That was real smart. Nice move okay my turn. I need the birthday sound when glenn is gonna have to birthdays. Oh okay let me find birthday. Where's birthdays birthdays. Worst birthdays today. Did the birthdays there. It is all right. Well this is what glenn put in the show notes for me to see if if i have gotten anybody wrong or missed anybody. Send your emails to jennifer horse radio network. Actually you can send these to glen and publicly on facebook or whatever But to auditors and harrington and jessica shannon happy birthday ladies now. Let's talk a little bit more if you will about. There's there's some drama and craziness Real problems going on in the central part of the country right now from texas oklahoma and it's heading north and east basically to every place in the country except to cal is getting this godforsaken weather and i need to ask you when you are home. You live in maryland. What are some things that because there's people without power there's people without water. There's some things. I have learned in this last It's the longest recorded session section of below freezing in oklahoma history and the lowest temperatures that they've ever had here too so that's fun so some things that i've learned to stock up on to make sure you have plenty of. What are some things. I'll go over mind minute. But what are some things in a snowstorm or in the winter. That jacqueline you feel like you have got to have well. I don't know if any of you ladies or our listeners. Have seen but one snowstorms come and you go to you know the local grocery store all the milk and all the bread is gone. I don't know what people are doing with it. But they must be making bread and milk sandwiches. I know it's crazy. But i'm admit specifically like we all hear the bread milk eggs all that stuff like for horses and a farm and and things like how to exist and like survive in the snow pacalypse. That has happened. I got a foot of snow last night again again. We had snow two days ago. So that's not something that i'm used to. I lived in georgia all my life. And then i lived in arizona so this is not things that i prepared for. One thing that i've learned jacqueline is that there are these things that go into water. Troughs them from freezing. And i did not know about that. I didn't think about that. I'm sorry y'all listening to me. Think i'm an idiot but again i've lived the last ten years in arizona. It one time went down to thirty two degrees. Okay so i'm not and before that atlanta. So let's go come on so there's these things you put in the water and i know about them and i was like well. We're going to need some of those. And i couldn't find any of course everybody's sold out of anything that it comes close to like helping with a storm and heated dog bowls. He did chicken water. Heated everything you can possibly think of the celtics gone all the things So my friend. Larisa shout out till larussa me to water heaters for for troughs and you plug them in and they just float around there and they keep the water from freezing. That's the greatest. Invention of all time won't ever live without that. You need to have the heated water. The ones that like screw in the big rubbermaid grade things at the bottom. But i'm not gonna lie. My next project is to buy like auto heated waters for both barn in the fields. This year's been raft the other thing you have to me. This was a problem before we left. All the pipes kept freezing so like we couldn't even turn on the water so we were literally filling the like five gallon jugs of water. You know loading them up from the house putting them in the gator driving him out to the field it was stupid. It was so dumb god. So that's the other thing the figured this out yet but you gotta make sure you undo the hoses at night when it's supposed to get below freezing because otherwise it really won't work. You might get a little lucky No salt is not get lucky that first night i recommend you know lots of salt for like walkways that you need a snow plow or good shovel. Definitely some wine or your drink of choice. I also highly recommend that. I mean we we. I woke up this morning. I looked at the counter. It looked like we had a frat party in was like why didn't know he had all these things. Where's my husband but yeah that that definitely is good. Yeah the he did the the. I'm not sure so. We have those nelson heated automatic waters in my barn. And i'm like no matter what we're going to be fine because there's water in the barn. Yeah they they quit working. They froze. And i'm sorry. I spent way too much money on these so i called nelson. I'm like i'm trying not to swear Frigging heated on waters that he spent about four point. Two million dollars on are not working. They're frozen and So what nelson does is. They manufacturer them and then they send them to. You're to you and your contractor and builder so like morton barn built our barn and they have contractors who they hired to put in all the plumbing and the plumbers that put the automatic waters in. I remember when it was happening. They were like we've never seen these four days really nice well as a great idea holy crap. It's snowing again just outside okay. So the problem is they didn't put him in right. And there's gaps in the bottom so all the air is just going straight up through the bottom and everything froze so my i have. My hydrants are really deep. there's frost free like hydrogen. We have water there. Some getting muck tubs and like having a fella of take a hose down the bar. Now whenever the hose leaks it turns into ice instantaneously. Oh my god. I'm just sabbath complaining. Because i did see one of our listeners. Robin who was having to melt snow to take to her animals. That is just sounds. So i'm sorry about the water. I would be so mad. That would just drive me nuts because you pay extra for those heated ones older shirt. You pay a lot extra. And there's it's just the peace of mind i think is what you pay but then to have them. Installed incorrectly was was pretty harsh. So i'm still in the process of figuring that out. Well that's good to know. I will Keep that in mind if you get at project if if you get your heated automatic waters and the person sounds like they live in rural oklahoma you should runaway fair. They live in oklahoma. Where it doesn't freeze yourself palmer. And you've instructions right in front of you. If if i may toss in my two cents one of the things when we we had a snow pacalypse back in the day when we had a really big farm with lots of horses etcetera etcetera. No power everything subzero for about ten days just out of fear. Happenstance the barn that we had did not have pressurized water. It didn't have a water spit. It had a well with an old school. Crank pump like. They had little house on the prairie. Where you pumping up and down. Y'all crazy oh god lot. It doesn't freeze and it doesn't need power so yeah well needs power. It just needs if this is the thing with this. It was modern so what they had done. Is they had rigged up a motor and belt so to turn the water on and off now. it wasn't pressurized. Had us everything. Use a bucket it did have. It was electric powered and that you hit a switch. It filled up. The bucket turned switch off. But you couldn't pressurize anything. So we lost power for seven days and sub zero weather. We had all the water. We wanted nice. So you know if you live in one of those places where you're going. Oh my god. I really could be without power and like that if you have a place to install one of those old school hand. Puppets they don't. Did you then have to carry the water. The water pump was five feet from the front door. The barn wasn't very far to walk only had fifteen at the time. Only fifty fifty. 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I'm going to get a chestnut filly. You convinced yeah. I was praying for a black colt. And i gotta chestnut filly. So yeah. it'll happen losers. If i say i'm going to get a chestnut filly maybe i won't. We'll see yeah. Good luck with that. It's going to happen but she ended up being quite nice so it it it can work out in the end it can happen are a well. Let's give a call to our. I guess we're gonna talk to dr brookes about kissing spines. Well i'd like to welcome. Dr brookes to the show today to talk a little bit about kissing spines or a lot about it but dr brooks this is all the information that have on you so please tell me your full name and where you are in the world. Sure well thank you so much for the invitation I am doctor samantha brooks. I am an associate professor specializing in equine physiology and genetic here at the university of florida. Gainesville where it's a little warmer than the rest of the nation. Okay let me stop. Both samantha brooks. I know who you are. But i did want to say that. I am now irritated. That the three of you are in florida. And i'm in oklahoma where it's like negative ten. Oh so sorry so sorry. I'm sitting warm bide. Thanks so feel great But i just come to florida. Are it well. Sorry kerryon keep telling us we should start with you know for those who may not have heard you come on the show before us talk about it. What is kissing spines I i'm a horse person like a lot of you folks out there and You know first thing. I have a frustrating problem with one of my horses. The very next question. My brain is okay. What's the science that we can do on this so kissing. Spines is not an uncommon condition. And i think with improvements in our clinical technologies like radio graphs and all the fantastic new diagnostics. I think it's really in the past. Few years started to kind of rise to the surface of everyone's consciousness then. We're realizing that there are more horses with two things fines and it sounds kind of cute right kissing. Yeah by what happens is in in horses because of the bio mechanics of the way. They're built as quadrupeds. Is you know. Walk on four lynn. They're prone to some back problems. That are a little different than the back problems that you and i are prone to. 'cause we walk onto legs. In their case in some animals the weight of their body as well as potentially of a rider and of the stress that they endured during all the fantastic athletic activities that they do can start to draw that spine downward now horses have these long bony processes on top of each of their vertebrae. That are very important for anchoring muscle back got to be strong and it has to transmit the power from the hindquarters into the forehand and to do that. You need lots of muscle but these same long bony Sort of like. It's almost like a mask on a sailboat. For each little vertebrae those same long processes when that back begins to to be drawn downward by weight they can start to pinch one another The they just began to to come to close and that's where we give the name kissing spines because the surfaces of those those bony processes just start to touch now when they get too close that can cause all sorts of inflammation irradiation and eventually bony changes. That we see on radiographs for horses. This can be quite painful. That pain tends to be observed by their riders and trainers often things like behavioral problems. So don't like to be saddled. They may they may be acting out during training sessions and it also can become limiting so they may you know not wanting to take one kanter lead over another inevitably though It can reach a point where even although of course can can appear fairly down on a on a exam when they're actually being worked at what they're intended to do. They're just not able to work at the same level that they might have previously. Might be one of the better explanations That i've ever heard about it And you know some of those things that you mentioned the not wanting to be saddled the not wanting to do this and work and all that you know a lot of times. That's tributed to alzheimer's and you treat the ulcers and and nothing changes. So what i let's say. I have a horse as showing those behaviors. What are some some diagnostic. Things i i could do or my and then call my vet and see what they can do right though. This is really tough because as you mentioned it can be confused with other sort of generalized sources of pain like ulcers and a lot of these forces you know sometimes the first thing you think is the training problem or saddle fit problem and those can be true as well which really really hard for the horse owner to tease these things out The best thing to do is to work with a really good veterinarian because they do have a much bigger toolbox in terms of diagnostic for kissing spine. From what. I understand having gone through this. A little bit myself is The the gold standard tends to be radiographs. So get an x ray because you can see if there's bone loss or bone addition to get like arthritis in between those little finest processes you can see that on an x ray that indicates that there are changes going on for most forces that will lead you to along with all the other clinical signs kind of think that they're probably a kissing spines case but not always. There are a lot of horses who will have what looks like some bony changes on radiographs. But they don't yet have the pain that's gonna cause all the other types of behavioral changes that we see. There's some other things are some Ultrasound techniques that can be used to supplement those types of things but It's it's very very frustrating. Because sometimes it's a process of elimination so you wouldn't see this and go straight to radiographs see. There's some other things you would do before that. Well you know now now we need to get our suite of veterinarians On our team on the call us so they can they can back me up And i probably all have a different opinion but and it's going to differ a little bit based on the individual case and budget right and you're are you able to get radiographs. That are going to be a good enough quality. Okay so yeah. You can't take these in the field. They have to be sent to a to a big x ray machine correct not always not always depends on the size of the horse. Some really really big warm lead. You're going to have a hard time. You know for some thicker parts of the body getting a good picture but for a lighter bred thoroughbred if you've got a great field veterinarian who has a good radiographs they can do it fairly well. Job with with a cooperative patient. Of course now. Sam i go to horse and i'm like I wonder if you have kissing spine. Like push on the withers or like press on the back or do something that makes you know he'll go at hurts. And you're like oh you haven't or maybe you haven't. Oh i wish it were black and white because boy that would make my job as a geneticist so much easier right came just are lots of professionals now working in things like chiropractic in body works and and they will give you some various stories is whether they can or cannot do that in some cases. I think that is true and others. You remember you know. Were like one hundred and fifty pounds on average pushing back. That's a very different type of of weight load than the dynamic load you get from a writer when you're say you know trying to collect in between a difficult combination of jumps So biomechanically you know if they have pain in their back been you know. They have pain in their their back. When you push on it then you can start to investigate stuff. But i think if you don't find pain when kind of poking them doesn't necessarily mean they don't have problems that are worth investigating more. Gotcha okay so now. Let's get to the genetic portion of your work. You have done a study. Tell everybody about the study that that has actually my co host here. Jacqueline sent in radio graphs and hair to your study. Oh fantastic thank you so much jacqueline i did. I wouldn't go ahead. I'm so thrilled. I probably i know. Fifty thousand of your horses data points better than than he ever wanted to maybe Yes so when we go out and talk to worst owner you know we kind of Ask around and say you know what are the problems that you find most frustrating. And it's not always the conditions that are the most deadly deadly sometimes. It's the ones that we just don't have enough answers for and become these sort of persistence. Oh everyday challenges and this was on the top of a lot of lists you know especially for our elite performance forces. We just don't have a lot of good answers kissing fine so me being geneticist micah all right then we should throw some genetics at this So along diagnostics actually pulled this together and a really nice Sort of citizen science approach using their client base As well as a large group of their team of consulting veterinarians which is fantastic. Because as i say. I'm the dean jockey right These guys they really know what it's like to work in the field with these forces and helped us build a set of of criteria to define the condition that was stringent enough to give us a good scientific study. Because like you say okay happy half. These horses may be got poked in the back by a chiropractic and the other half got a complete workup. That would not be good science so they helped us keep it very very uniform and get a good clinical details And then adeline funded. All of the genus typing. So each horse that was in the study is genotyped around. Fifty thousand different sites of the of the genome itself. I should mention a study is still ongoing and serve any of you listeners. Out there have a horse with kissing spines. I really encourage you to contact the folks that eta lawn to see if they can send their horse in as well because what we've got really really exciting luminary data. We do still need to build our sample size and get additional horses especially from some different breeds. Because has we got into the story. A little deeper. It started to get more and more interesting. Don't like so. Did you see one particular breed a lot more we did. We did so The the study focuses on a warm blood sport horses stock horses and thoroughbreds and the strategy there was primarily because these are the horses. You most frequently have issues with with kissing spines and maybe for different reasons But they all have elite athletes in there. Right you've got great. Jumpers into sasha's in reining horses and horses you have an athletic job that can be critically derailed by a problem like like kissing so when we started a tease the problem apart genetically We really started to see some differences between these groups in particular. We are still to this day. Really struggling to find thoroughbreds. That are of mature age. And don't have some radiographic signs of kissing spine. Of course not all of those. We'll have it a painful enough level of change for it to become performance limiting but we are struggling to find thoroughbreds with the with clean radiographs. It's really hard. Despite these horses. Having you know hundred years of of being the peak of athletic performance. It's really dumped. That's really disheartening. Actually that so so. So what are you hoping to find some people to send you clean xrays or not or you just saying this is what you just couldn't identify. Yeah no i mean we. We have some other criteria that we look at so Among the horses do have two things binds. There are different levels of severity. We spent a lot of time actually examining the severity of the radiographic changes and that gives us a sort of an additional layer to study for sure But with any scientific experiment the control is just as important as the experimental condition. Right so hard control. Horses are extremely important in every study and we really have to be equally as thorough at examining those controls as we are with our disease cases and the challenge. There is that you know when your horses having a problem And you're going through a you go to your vat and you go through workup done. And it's pretty justified as an expense but when your horses going around beautifully. How often do you call up your go. you know. i want to spend a bunch of money on radio. Yeah not so much hard it. It's not just that thoroughbred their tough. It's also that that we're relying on horse-owner owners and the behavior is usually not radiographs. Your horse when everything is going well so the give me some good news about kissing spines in and since this is still ongoing. I'm gonna give out your email address if that's okay and pair where people can find out you know where to send their writing. Yeah yeah it can reach out to me that you all connected up participate in the study itself. So let's see I there are strong genetic components. And i think that's gonna be helpful course with genetics. Were we kind of default. We always talk about breeders right so maybe you have a mayor who you retired fifteen due to some kissing spine But she's excellent in all her other qualities she has a great mind she's very From from the knees down you know we may be able to enable you to choose a stallion. That's going to reduce the risk of kissing spines in that bowl and that's very important because there are a lot of these worshipers that that have kissing spine that they have made it to a level performance. That that really made you think that they have a lot of special qualities but they just had to be retired. Maybe even at their peak do the kissing spines. And that's a very tempting category to make into breeding stock right having a tool for breeders to help to avoid the disease and future generations. That super important. But that's not all that this can do for us right You know there's certainly the ability to potentially include this on a pre purchasing fan. So you know let's say you gotta worse and you're thinking about buying them and he's still young maybe you look at. You're gonna look a lot of things. But if he has a higher than average risk for kissing spines and you just retired your favorite show horse for casings binds. You're going to be a little bit wary about getting into that problem again right. I'm you pass them up or you pick him up as a youngster and you carefully manages back throughout his horse career to try to use all the environmental variables. We have at our fingertips to prevent the disease. There's a few things that we can can try to along those lines preventative. Sort of predictive aspects and my favorite part is that you know. We don't really know why some horses under the same level of strain of physical load develop kissing spine while others don't and it might come down to things like jeans connective tissue or genes for turnover bone and if we can understand at souda the molecular level. What different between those tour two horses. Maybe we can devise new preventative or therapeutic strategies targeting those mechanisms turnover a bone or or maybe trying to strengthen that connective tissue so it gives us a little bit of hope. Actually that we don't have to imagine that will test a bunch of horses and then just discard them when they have this disease and send them off to do other. You know other job what we might be able to do is work a little smarter and find new ways to to fight. It's very frustrating condition. Man okay well thank you for any with a little bright spot of hope for all your centers out there. If you wanna email a gets more information samantha brooks at u. f. l. dot. Edu my correct there samantha. Brook said dot edu fantastic. We have run out of time. But this is fascinating and i hope that Everybody listening picked up a few things. I know i did. We really appreciate you being on the show. Dr brookes thank you and pethick thank you. You guys have a good day you too and good luck in the future. They a are jacqueline. Why don't you tell us about one of our sponsors. Our friends at equa dermot. So this episode is brought to you by our friends at ecuadora. Equa dermot wound. -pointment is a must have in your medicine cabinet it. Visibly amplifies wound healing stops proud flesh from developing minimizes scarring reduces pain and keeps flies out of winds. You will find that with consistent use. You'll see a noticeable progression of steady healing every day. Plus it's a great treatment regimen for common skin rashes in source find that in all ecuador products at ecuador dot com. Thank you very much right now. It's time for a little weird news. Gen time to learn why some days you're embarrassed to be part of the human race jamie's weird news. Today's going to be one of those days and you know. I was just realizing that the these weird news stories were sent to me by listeners. Okay jacqueline and jen. They were sent to me by jessica and jenny. That's great mike. What is happening here minded. Have more jack all j. shows often and i know dr. Brookes being samantha. She's lucky we let her on. I mean really. That's just weird okay. First story is a lot of people. Have those ring doorbell things. Well my god are you kidding me. A lady named jackie. Jane of of new wilmington pixel came home and her house was ransacked like ransacked. Her door was torn down and her entire house leaked. There's a storm board. That's made of glass so it was shattered to the inside. There's a picture window on the side. There was all sorts of like all their furniture and things on the wall were knocked down while she's a ring doorbell gay so she. This is so ridiculous so she goes and she's like i need to figure out who this was. You know so. She looks at the ring doorbell and it was chill deer. That came running through her windows through. Her front door ran around the house and then ran out of the house. And she's like why the hell with to dear just all of a sudden do that and then the ring. Doorbell caught the cougar third. How is your around the house and out so that is why. Her house was completely ransacked. They would derive. Aj's vancouver their role guys. Let's go in here. God wow that's why we call it weird news This is this is definitely weird. Jen there is a little button that glenn plays in between the news. Clips is one next story. We're going to head to indiana. A there was a karen warner. She's fifty one. She was adopted. Okay and she just really wanted to know a little bit more about her and finally her indiana adoption records became unsealed and so she finally found out what her biological mother's name was and then discovery came at it turns out. She has a twin brother and she is fifty one years old did never knew she had a twin and so she sought help from various adoption websites trying to find her long lost brother and she just couldn't find a name so then she she really got s- lucy and obtained local voting records with the list of three men who shared her birthday. The third name on the list is a guy named mike jackman and stood out. Because oh my god. I facebook friends with him because i went to high school with him so she sends jackman a facebook message. And she's like. Hey remember me from high school. Wanna go take a dna test so she goes to get a dna at dirt. Dirt you into high school with is their twin brother. My gosh isn't that crazy you. These stories are always just so interesting on the way the world works. That won't but we're going to end on a bright note. Okay we're gonna talk to lou the border collie just okay. We're gonna dr lu-lu the border collie There was a a gentleman that lives in tennessee and he is a very successful businessman but he passed away and he was unmarried had no children and had substantial real estate holdings and investments He was on the road a lot for work and he wanted lulu his border collie to be taken care of so he would leave her frequently with his friend. Martha burton burton is eighty eight and is now lulus fulltime caretaker. Okay because the man died he left lulu to this lady in his will. But do you know what else he left. Lu-lu in his will play money. Five million dollars on. I gladly take lulu. She eight if she don't want him anymore. It's a border collie too much energy. I'd be happy to take lulu Yeah show so burton the nice lady. Who has the dog now. Oh he loved the dog. I don't really know what do you think about him. Giving her five million dollars to tell you the truth. She says she knows you probably will manage to spend all five million but quote. Well i'd like to try. That dog is going to be treated very well. So yes lulu. The border collie inherited five million dollars after the death of her father. Ugo lou going on you way to go lulu and gen. That's hit it again. period again. Wraps up weird news for the week. If you guys see a weird news story please feel free to email it to jamie horse. Radio network dot com. It's much appreciated. I mean come on. where would i find. All these awesome stories takes a lot of work so anyway thanks to everybody for sending him. Thanks to what all the jays. Let's see. we have jessica and jenny jacqueline and jen at what is on your agenda for today So i have to go back to my office job for a little bit after this. But then i am country schooling the five star wannabe horse this afternoon and getting lesson on a horse not the one the other one. Yeah now gen. Your husband is not home right now. Which is why. Jacqueline is sitting in. And he's not at home because he had to make good on valentine's day gift which was to get the hell away from you. Yes that is karatas. Why jacqueline he's not there because he had she's like yeah valentine's day you can just leave. That'd be a gift you know when you live and work together. Twenty four seven three sixty five. It's a gift to get away from each other. Once i had it says the lady who left her husband maryland with a bunch of horses. He took off for florida. The program jamie come on leave town. Then i'm out. I'm out here soon as the storm is over. Your i'm out Well everybody have a wonderful day. Thank you so much for hosting jacqueline. I really appreciate it. Yeah i had a great time is always and jen thank you for producing and unless he jacqueline at the end of every show you have to like you know. Have your thing that you say. Do you have a thing that you like to say. I thought we were supposed to do what we learned today. Oh you can do that to. What did you learn today. Oh gosh. I learned too many things dr. Brooks's got me off freaked out now. That i've read my mayor with giving no serious. I mean maybe right. Hey we bred here before this study came out so it's all good. No no no. I learned that. And yeah my. I guess my sane is everybody. Enjoy the rest of your day. Kiss your ponies. Hug your husband's and love everyone your wives luxury. Your dogs cats chickens by the way i would just like you. Is ted know that my chickens are currently with warm water because currently in their coupe is my crock pot. Good lisi everybody agree one. Spay neutering guild.

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The Josh Norman Dilemma

The Kevin Sheehan Show

56:37 min | 1 year ago

The Josh Norman Dilemma

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin Art Martin. Show today is brought to you by stamps. Dot Com. I TALK ABOUT STAMPS DOT com. I wonder who goes to the post office anymore especially during holiday season when it is so busy. That's why you need stamps. Dot Com anything. You can do at the post office you can do at stamps. Dot Com it eliminates trips to the post office. Saves you money with discounts. You can't even get at the post office. Here's the deal right now. Go to stamps. Dot Com Click on the microphone at the top of the homepage. Use My Promo Code. Kevin D. C. Eh. And you will get big savings to include a four week. Trial Plus Free Postage and a digital scale with no long term commitment and were CR- our contract required that stamps dot com enter Kevin. DC shouldn't go to the post office again especially if you're a small business. STAMPS DOT COM saves you time mm-hmm and money all right. It's Erin I today No cooley today. He'll join us on Friday. He had something. Come up this morning so we will get to him on Friday and we we start with the thing that Aaron I care about the most these days and that is Our College basketball team. The University of Maryland who went to Penn state last night night is the fourth ranked team in the country. And we both told you here on this very show yesterday that the point spread wreaked and that we were very concerned that last night would be the first loss of the year. Not only did it. Wreak Erin it. WENT FROM MARYLAND MINUS ONE. Two at tip Penn state was a two point favorite. Yeah so to explain that to people because so many of you will ask me to get in more detail on the gambling stuff. Because you're not familiar with it. Nine understand that and I apologize apologize when we sort of just throw out things assuming everybody will know what they mean because I know most people don't gamble and that's fair. It's a fair criticism of me when it comes to talking about gambling so the fact that Maryland was a one point favorite when we were on the air yesterday first of all it. It reeked. Wreaked it stunk. It seemed wrong because Maryland is the fourth ranked team in the country and Penn State is unranked Maryland. Arlen just won a very dramatic game at home in the first conference game of the year over Illinois and Penn State lost by thirty two points on Saturday to Ohio state. WHO's very good? They must be really good. Ohio state must be so the fact that Maryland was only a one point favorite at this time yesterday. They made us think Vegas is basically telling you that Penn State's good and they've got a chance to win this game in fact they're kind of leading you to believe that Penn state has a chance to win this game in and more likely than not will because they were inviting action on Maryland. Basically they're saying go ahead ED. You're so convinced were wrong. Put all of your money on Marilyn Lang one point essentially meaning all Maryland had to do was win the game for you to win your bed or worst-case push it and then something else happened between yesterday and tip time. The point spread moved in the direction of Penn State State. And so what that tells you is the public money they John Q.. Public better who looks at Maryland. Caroline is number four in the country. And says wow I can bet Maryland laying a point. That's it and they think that Vegas has made a mistake. They're betting on Maryland and and yet vegas is giving that particular audience the audience that think that thinks Vegas has made a mistake with the point spread even more reason reason to bet on Penn state by moving penn state to a two point favorite. So now you can bet. Maryland is the fourth ranked team in the country against an unranked rang team and get two points. Why did it happen? Well almost always that kind of move is what they call out in VEGAS EGAS and in offshore a sharp play move. There are two dozen three dozen people in the world that Vegas in the offshore books actually really respect like they respect their opinion and they themselves can move a point spread and the point spread moving three points from Maryland minus one Maryland favored by one to Penn state minus two Penn state favored by two. That's a three point. Move move is almost always an indication of somebody really sharp and respected bet on Penn state and probably a lot of money on Penn state now sometimes a key injury or a in expected or a suspension or some big piece of news can move the point spread last night. There wasn't any of that which tells me that. A lot of sharp money Erin was on Penn state That moved