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"Free from that. They're actually going to be really easily rounded up if we put our minds to it. And so I'm I'm hoping that that we're there will be enough deterrence from this kind of thing happening, but God terrible breach of etiquette and safety and decency and democracy that it might not be that they only replied in ways that they would have wanted to be replied. Hey shoot at us will be martyrs. Hey, we have enough guns will be happy to get in a gunfight. No other find out that all of what they've tried to do to get all their stand your ground laws and all those stockpiles of armaments that they've got all the atmosphere. We're going to find out that they didn't buy themselves. Any safety there a hundred years behind they don't know how the real world works. Well, all they had to do is watch Star Wars. You know, Lou Castillo de is the dark side stronger. He's like no, it's just quicker. It's not stronger there. You should come on we've known this thing to the geek world for forty some years and and it's nice. We're not we're of course. We're not really doing it to them. It's being done to us. You know, there's all kinds of PODS of East European. Shall we call it, you know Russian and other places hackers that are regularly took to get into our systems and they're doing it for can they affect our infrastructure whatever our various different, you know, our our water and our power and all that kind of stuff on Telecom and there's really some sad Tales of they have been able to do that. So we have a very careful but whatever that ever escalating battle is between the black hats and the white hats there really are some people that are patriotic enough then instead of saying, how can I cash in on this ability? They're like, well, how can I use this page thirty-four good and I'll still make money. And in fact, maybe I have to adopt a lifestyle that says I need to kind of remain myself off the you know out of sight because you don't want to just do a really good thing really visibly because you attract the attention of bad people who are trying to shut down your ability trying to heart rate because of it. So I I'm not an essay. I'm Not Dead Are near that real world of Spooks and attack counter-attack, but I I read about it in books and it sure seems that you know what I mean. There's there's all kinds of things where the dog snow terms of the world. There's all kinds of people that have become lightning rods for Wikileaks and stuff like that and maybe sometimes what happens there is they make a person a lightning rod and they let them have all that attention. Whereas in real life a whole bunch of stuff is happening in the background that there are still good things happening to Panama papers will come out the you know what I mean more so now than ever, you know, cuz the radio off and and you know, though just for Playing devil's advocate for just a moment. Let's say all these hackers really did take over everything and let's say the riot was bigger and took over the capital and stuff and change things and took control and did it well twenty years from now, they would be the good guys because that's how they wrote it in the history and it was everybody else. That was stopping them and they made the world a better place. So I mean, you know that definitely is a huge philosophical discussion, right? You know, just go back let you know if Hitler had taken overhead controlled everything we would be reading a very different history that he's not the evil dictator. He was in crazy that he was a genius and he saved the world so worried it's not only that by that meaning it's all the victors often write the histories. They don't write the only history, you know, I mean, we know all kinds of things about people that have tried to sanitize themselves every terrible things and and I think that when you're doing terrible things you kind of can't write enough new history to make up for the fact that there are bodies buried there are lists of all the crimes you've committed and no matter how you try to change public opinion of not taking pokes out of their homes and putting them in camps. That's not a crime because humans it's it's ridiculous. Any reasonable decent is thinking person would wage. Buy into all that they'd become the rebels and eventually the rebels would overthrow that next regime because I think that you know, I love quotes along the lines of you know, the Arc of History tends to get Justice tends toward civilization. I think that there's enough human spirit that even while there are these momentary blips of totalitarian regimes and so forth. I don't think that's a natural human stage. I think a natural human state is decency and equal treatment and Justice and that things that perturb it they only do it by force use-of-force use of intimidation small minority. Just louder. Yeah and that, you know, every every single evil guy should have somebody whispering in his ear time goes on Fame is fleeting. They will eventually die. There's so many of these places that are not a whole system. It's one or two crazies that have that really terrible charismatic power to get other people to do their bidding and yet they're going to page. Eventually and it's very uncommon for the 2nd to the 3rd and 4th of dictator to have that same iron hold they sometimes try but eventually things, you know takes 30 years to throw out off, you know, the the the various different regimes in Asia or in Africa or in South America or here if it ever happens, it takes generational change in medieval Europe how many kings and fiefdoms and kingdoms were there and they're no longer around, you know, they controlled everything and in modern I mean the thing about the history and this is a scary thing for me. Is that just about every text Book Creator with only a couple out there like McMillan and cute and Mifflin and all those but the ones I write the text books they pass it through the Texas Board of Education for approval because Texas buys like almost half the textbooks. So so Texas literally as well, we're not dead. By this and let you change this because that's what we believe so there have been you know, it's known but it's also like what are we going to do type thing? Yeah, so that's scary. I am a whole big, you know before Facebook. I actually there was some social media out there and I had actually started site called the smart life that was using ning and it was a month. You could create your own social network. You could have many of the features of you know, people and posting and and including a video and whatever else it might be and if I remember correctly that was one of the very first things that I posted out about was because this is a new age is a dozen years ago. They were first becoming aware of the inordinate power because of the number of textbooks that they buy that that particular group had and that the reason that was noticeable was because they weren't juice rubber-stamping things. They were indeed trying to rewrite history. We don't like, Jefferson anymore. So let's take him out what the right? So that's the guy who helped to write that you know these famous dog. It's when you saw the kinds of things they were doing they were so egregiously wrong and bad like it had to be that someone stood up to them and said well, California buys a lot of tax breaks look at their standards as well. Let's not just let this one control shooting Monopoly power when it's being obviously abused. Let's not only buy into that and I guess hopefully I really don't know what the current state of that is did the textbook manufacturers manufacturers printers give into ridiculous standards or did they make two different versions? That's kind of what I hope is that Texas got the bulb is first Enterprise Texas idiot version and that the rest of the world got whatever the consensus is as to what's true. What significance what does it matter to tell future Generations instead of wage try to put together a propaganda Pam? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question cuz I haven't followed up with it. It was just something I've run across in the publishing world. So maybe it's worth looking into to see if things have changed especially with the e-book Market, you know, and how that is, but with when they're charging like in college you remember? Oh that books $300 exactly. Man. I do remember that, you know that whatever I I paid for half my college my mom and dad, you know, split the cost with me, so that pretty much it came down to you know, they took care of maybe tuition and room-and-board. I went to a state school. So that was all reasonable, but I had to work the entire summer just to get the money that I was going to use for textbooks and them left over. I got to go to a movie right and I had to work during college. I washed test tubes at the materials research lab I slung pizza at Garcia's I had all kinds of things to continue to get that little bit of extra money because you can back then colleges. It was very expensive you if you were from a standard middle class background, you know what I mean? I had my God Like a year scholarship, you know when I but I didn't get a four-year ride. I got $1,000 from Burroughs Corporation cuz I was a National Merit scholar and I always wondered, you know, wow, I I wish that I would have been dead. Like didn't they they after I was through college and this is going to cross has maybe a little bit of like privileged bitching but it really is reality. Like I saw people from our school if they're good at Athletics if they're good at music. They're going to various other things. They really were getting free rides and I was like, wow, I'm like valedictorian and I got all these Awards like I was a mathlete. I got really got like a national recognition type stuff and that turned into a thousand dollars. And and so I knew this is still going to be up to me, you know between my parents saving money for us and and I had two brothers so they were working on putting all of us through college and it wasn't going to be easy. And so we didn't get any of the Daughters of the American Revolution, you know, not not scholarships fellowships, you know, I was dead. Whatever the scholars are that play golf. You know what? I mean? I didn't seem to have I was too vanilla generic American to get it on any of the cool set aside. There wasn't a Lithuanian American things for me a German record. So I guess having said all that it isn't meant to be complaining it really is and this Neil again. Wow, you know record Marte but it's still you really valve or something when it's not handed to you. I knew people that really had college is kind of a four-year party. They didn't have to work hard right to pay. You know, I really wanted my education cuz every time that I took it in another shift at three fifteen an hour. I was sure I was going to get my education money's worth because I did all this crap to get one. You've done sack lunch man, you know, I'm getting up at five thirty in the morning to be there for 6 to 7:30 while everybody else is making their sack lunches cuz they're not be able to make it back to the dorms, etc. Etc. I did whatever was necessary cuz I knew that I had to get that off. Free and kind of like give myself a leg up on Life College was going to help me. Let's do this, you know that and not the put down any of that. I think that's important but I think in today's world lots of people are questioning the value of college as much that we agree. There are way too many kids getting out of college. Oh, I was there for four years. We owe $87,000. I've been working and can't pay for any of it yet. Right and what do I get a job doing? I'm working at Target. How you doing? Welcome to Target, you know, and and it's not just one or two. It's a lot and that we we've talked about us doing some of our talks and speeches and going out and giving these the one I've been working on is off directly addressing that how it's the kids coming up are looking at it going. Okay, wait a second. You want me to give you like a hundred thousand dollars so you can give me a certificate that dog. As I'm good at such and such but there's no jobs in that and I may have to work at the zoo, you know, you know, you can't do the cost-benefit analysis and for many people starting off with that hundred-thousand-dollar Millstone on their neck. Yeah doesn't make any sense. I agree and what these kids are discovering is I don't even have to go work for somebody else. I have everything. I need in my phone, you know, they can't smoke in McDonald's because McDonald's has a kiosk and a burger making machine. There's one guy sitting there doing the crossword puzzle making sure the machine keeps working and and it sounds funny to us, but it's a reality show. We thought five years ago. Hey, we're going to push for McDonald's to pay their employees fifteen dollars an hour and then McDonald's responded with okay. We'll pay you $15 an hour. But instead of ten of years. I only need to write cuz now we got so much automation pushing against whatever efficiencies exactly. So, you know that they can't even work at the burger joints or the pizza places cuz now with covid-19 Online and driving through the drive-through or swinging by, you know, they're not even delivering as much that's a guess on my part. I definitely more people going through drive-throughs then I've ever seen the for pizza. You you're cracking. Okay, you got a short or something loose. I haven't touched a really am keeping my hands clear the mic and from all the cables and stuff like that. I don't think you can crackling it's no it was just I mean it sounded like something was loose or a short there for a moment. It's better now, but so I mean we're kind of used wage is so again the piece of job to help pay for school may not exist because people don't use that delivery as much I hear you very odd time right now in there probably has been quotes on on time for like twenty years. You know what I mean as we've had more automation or more. I don't know. This is such a huge discussion, you know, whatever it is about getting people educated and or helping them get self-educated. How do you make it so that there still enough money coming in that they can live doing it or sponsorship from their parents or from various different organizations. I think that some of the value of an education is dead. Only what you're learning but like learning how to learn you learn time management. You learn how to how to be able to triage between I got multiple things do and what am I going to do to get my grade point average highest that I can study the things that are most going to matter. I have some prerequisites that are just maybe not going to be as much important in the real world, but you also while I'm distracted cuz I really love this classical civilization stuff. I love reading egg allergy and whatever else so I think that that's part of what if you're only on your own you don't necessarily get those things and then your allowance blindsided by them. When you have to apply them into the real world of life too much to do and how am I going to choose? How am I going to justify that to somebody else when they say why didn't you get my project done? Right? Cuz you know what? I mean it it's there's there's some value about going away to live on your own you often people that have been arrested development living in the womb of home to finally go and say wow. I I need to do my own laundry. I need to like watch my own. There's absolutely some transition. Strong. There where you're still kind of sheltered, but you're learning important lessons about setting an alarm clock and I totally agree. That's one of the reasons. I wish all my kids gone to school and lived at school and gotten that cuz I got a lot out of that but on the flipside how many kids did you know that dropped out of school the first year the second year and they couldn't handle it they come across as in I agree. I really do, you know, if and I don't know we had I was in computer science and that's a tough major. So we had a number any number of people that didn't keep their grades, but they were going to stay in their major. They went to like I was went to school at University of Illinois in Champaign-Urbana. They went to the local community college and did the some of the courses that was still applied towards College grade got their grades back up and then re-entered the college curriculum, and I don't know it was weird to have people disappear for a couple of semesters and come back but not weird. It was very heartening to say. Well you took it on instead of just going back home and saying I guess I'll be a blank page. Like no, I really want this. I I screwed up. I didn't discipline myself. I've I found out that what am I going to do? If I'm left unattended I'm going to go to the gym and play racket ball all the time. I'm going to go drinking on Wednesday nights Etc, Thursday and Friday and your boy how he was the reasons there were to go drinking at U of I Wednesday Little Kings night. There's you know what? I mean, you could ladies night out here. Here's my my viewpoint on this and I I mean I saw it, you know, when I was in school to kids would drop out or they come back and not very often but God if kids can't afford to go to school if they're able to do work on their phone, but they can't do just one job they have to do four or five those same skills. They're going to to get or they're going to be you know, struggling so it's either it clicks in their brain that I've got a buckle down and I've got these three jobs, but I can add one more to make that extra $100 this week, you know dead. And then how do I still get my laundry done and the dogs out and you know, whatever else so I think but again, I don't think it's so much the environment. I think it's just the individual cuz regardless of environment there's going to be people that I that's too much for me. I can't do it. I'll just work at the local store and it doesn't matter if it's college or working off your phone or whatever that yeah, so maybe that's what it is. It's the big sieve that helps people understand. What what can I do? You know if I'm not in Bear down if I'm not the guy that can juggle between if I'm not the gal that is going to be home. I care about this by why is big enough that I'm going to overcome adversity. Then you realize that about yourself and it's not giving up but it's just definitely realigning yourself to say, I'm most comfortable working with people and so I guess I'm not going to get a degree in a deeply technical field because I don't like being by myself working on coat, you know that kind of thing and honestly the way the world's going for example the law. This one talk. I heard that I've based a lot of my research on is that and covid-19 is push this even faster is that they're predicting in the future. We're going to need more nurses but less doctor and that we're going to have the teladoc to do most of it and so in office right now that has five doctors is going to have all these Tela docs and one doctor but they're going to meet all the nurses to do all the Hands-On stuff and even that they're taking some of that away and so the hands on, you know, the dentist office, there's one to send there's ten, you know, hygienic so forth exactly the I don't know if that doesn't require a degree type stuff exactly and that's what they're doing a lot of and so people that are doing Hands-On things. For example, again my other podcast I just talked to an author who wrote a book called man stuff and he's a car dealership owner and he wrote this song. For boys to teach them how to be a man lessons on how to be a man how to shake hands how to tie a tie when to hold open a door how to set a table how to cook a gourmet meal just took that comes a lock like every half generation every 15 minutes ruko sheer Madness and that's actually I hear you. Okay, so it's these things that Hands-On thing that he was working on teaching the boys and those are the things that are going to get people jobs. He told a story that the one kids father had an auto repair place and the weather in the boys wanted to learn Auto Repair how to change oil it's man stuff, right? So they went and this guy is just talking and some of the other parents fathers were like what they were astounded because he's like well, yeah, you know, I work with my hands I get dirty. I think she's cars, but I'm proud of it because these people need their cars and I do good work and they come back to me and he said yeah I make over a hundred thousand a year off. These other dads are like you make over a hundred thousand working on cars, you know, I went to school. I have a degree. I work in a big high-rise building and you make more money than I do and you have no degree and it's in a Dusty little garage. So again, I laughed because I said that's kind of what the world is going to things that can be automated the High-Tech high end jobs that people used to do our going away and we need more of the hands on people jobs and that's what's going to get people money in the future. I think you're I mean, they're boy, there's a hundred examples of them. I mean, they're finding out that it isn't the I think that no matter what field you're in expertise helps, you know what I mean the cream Rises to the top and so there's all kinds of people that went in finance because he that's where the money is. But you know, if you suck at your job, you're not going to be one of those Elite you're going to be one of the schmoes that is making their, you know, fifty k a year instead of a hundred or whatever the the level is dead. There are different professions that have different media and levels but it doesn't mean that you're going to stand out and so you still have to have those standards of excellence. Those human qualities the Hands-On I make it that you're easy and fun to work with not just well, he's a necessary evil and we have to have that Cog in the machine know when people come back. They look forward to working with you again. They trust you with their car. All those are things that crossed you with their database. They trust you with their cake decoration. It applies in all different kinds of ways. You know, one of the things I've always tried to do is when I I was a consultant for a long time and didn't necessarily like ask directly for letters of recommendation, but every job that I took on I tried to say well this can be a new line for my resume. And if I do really well, then it'll be.

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"Various different regimes in Asia or in Africa or in South America or here if it ever happens, it takes generational change in medieval Europe how many kings and fiefdoms and kingdoms were there and they're no longer around, you know, they controlled everything and in modern I mean the thing about the history and this is a scary thing for me. Is that just about every text Book Creator with only a couple out there like McMillan and cute and Mifflin and all those but the ones I write the text books they pass it through the Texas Board of Education for approval because Texas buys like almost half the textbooks. So so Texas literally as well, we're not dead. By this and let you change this because that's what we believe so there have been you know, it's known but it's also like what are we going to do type thing? Yeah, so that's scary. I am a whole big, you know before Facebook. I actually there was some social media out there and I had actually started site called the smart life that was using ning and it was a month. You could create your own social network. You could have many of the features of you know, people and posting and and including a video and whatever else it might be and if I remember correctly that was one of the very first things that I posted out about was because this is a new age is a dozen years ago. They were first becoming aware of the inordinate power because of the number of textbooks that they buy that that particular group had and that the reason that was noticeable was because they weren't juice rubber-stamping things. They were indeed trying to rewrite history. We don't like, Jefferson anymore. So let's take him out what the right? So that's the guy who helped to write that you know these famous dog. It's when you saw the kinds of things they were doing they were so egregiously wrong and bad like it had to be that someone stood up to them and said well, California buys a lot of tax breaks look at their standards as well. Let's not just let this one control shooting Monopoly power when it's being obviously abused. Let's not only buy into that and I guess hopefully I really don't know what the current state of that is did the textbook manufacturers manufacturers printers give into ridiculous standards or did they make two different versions? That's kind of what I hope is that Texas got the bulb is first Enterprise Texas idiot version and that the rest of the world got whatever the consensus is as to what's true. What significance what does it matter to tell future Generations instead of wage try to put together a propaganda Pam? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question cuz I haven't followed up with it. It was just something I've run across in the publishing world. So maybe it's worth looking into to see if things have changed especially with the e-book Market, you know, and how that is, but with when they're charging like in college you remember? Oh that books $300 exactly. Man. I do remember that, you know that whatever I I paid for half my college my mom and dad, you know, split the cost with me, so that pretty much it came down to you know, they took care of maybe tuition and room-and-board. I went to a state school. So that was all reasonable, but I had to work the entire summer just to get the money that I was going to use for textbooks and them left over. I got to go to a movie right and I had to work during college. I washed test tubes at the materials research lab I slung pizza at Garcia's I had all kinds of things to continue to get that little bit of extra money because you can back then colleges. It was very expensive you if you were from a standard middle class background, you know what I mean? I had my God Like a year scholarship, you know when I but I didn't get a four-year ride. I got $1,000 from Burroughs Corporation cuz I was a National Merit scholar and I always wondered, you know, wow, I I wish that I would have been dead. Like didn't they they after I was through college and this is going to cross has maybe a little bit of like privileged bitching but it really is reality. Like I saw people from our school if they're good at Athletics if they're good at music. They're going to various other things. They really were getting free rides and I was like, wow, I'm like valedictorian and I got all these Awards like I was a mathlete. I got really got like a national recognition type stuff and that turned into a thousand dollars. And and so I knew this is still going to be up to me, you know between my parents saving money for us and and I had two brothers so they were working on putting all of us through college and it wasn't going to be easy. And so we didn't get any of the Daughters of the American Revolution, you know, not not scholarships fellowships, you know, I was dead. Whatever the scholars are that play golf. You know what? I mean? I didn't seem to have I was too vanilla generic American to get it on any of the cool set aside. There wasn't a Lithuanian American things for me a German record. So I guess having said all that it isn't meant to be complaining it really is and this Neil again. Wow, you know record Marte but it's still you really valve or something when it's not handed to you. I knew people that really had college is kind of a four-year party. They didn't have to work hard right to pay. You know, I really wanted my education cuz every time that I took it in another shift at three fifteen an hour. I was sure I was going to get my education money's worth because I did all this crap to get one. You've done sack lunch man, you know, I'm getting up at five thirty in the morning to be there for 6 to 7:30 while everybody else is making their sack lunches cuz they're not be able to make it back to the dorms, etc. Etc. I did whatever was necessary cuz I knew that I had to get that off. Free and kind of like give myself a leg up on Life College was going to help me. Let's do this, you know that and not the put down any of that. I think that's important but I think in today's world lots of people are questioning the value of college as much that we agree. There are way too many kids getting out of college. Oh, I was there for four years. We owe $87,000. I've been working and can't pay for any of it yet. Right and what do I get a job doing? I'm working at Target. How you doing? Welcome to Target, you know, and and it's not just one or two. It's a lot and that we we've talked about us doing some of our talks and speeches and going out and giving these the one I've been working on is off directly addressing that how it's the kids coming up are looking at it going. Okay, wait a second. You want me to give you like a hundred thousand dollars so you can give me a certificate that dog. As I'm good at such and such but there's no jobs in that and I may have to work at the zoo, you know, you know, you can't do the cost-benefit analysis and for many people starting off with that hundred-thousand-dollar Millstone on their neck. Yeah doesn't make any sense. I agree and what these kids are discovering is I don't even have to go work for somebody else. I have everything. I need in my phone, you know, they can't smoke in McDonald's because McDonald's has a kiosk and a burger making machine. There's one guy sitting there doing the crossword puzzle making sure the machine keeps working and and it sounds funny to us, but it's a reality show. We thought five years ago. Hey, we're going to push for McDonald's to pay their employees fifteen dollars an hour and then McDonald's responded with okay. We'll pay you $15 an hour. But instead of ten of years. I only need to write cuz now we got so much automation pushing against whatever efficiencies exactly. So, you know that they can't even work at the burger joints or the pizza places cuz now with covid-19 Online and driving through the drive-through or swinging by, you know, they're not even delivering as much that's a guess on my part. I definitely more.

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"Or in South America or here if it ever happens, it takes generational change in medieval Europe how many kings and fiefdoms and kingdoms were there and they're no longer around, you know, they controlled everything and in modern I mean the thing about the history and this is a scary thing for me. Is that just about every text Book Creator with only a couple out there like McMillan and cute and Mifflin and all those but the ones I write the text books they pass it through the Texas Board of Education for approval because Texas buys like almost half the textbooks. So so Texas literally as well, we're not dead. By this and let you change this because that's what we believe so there have been you know, it's known but it's also like what are we going to do type thing? Yeah, so that's scary. I am a whole big, you know before Facebook. I actually there was some social media out there and I had actually started site called the smart life that was using ning and it was a month. You could create your own social network. You could have many of the features of you know, people and posting and and including a video and whatever else it might be and if I remember correctly that was one of the very first things that I posted out about was because this is a new age is a dozen years ago. They were first becoming aware of the inordinate power because of the number of textbooks that they buy that that particular group had and that the reason that was noticeable was because they weren't juice rubber-stamping things. They were indeed trying to rewrite history. We don't like, Jefferson anymore. So let's take him out what the right? So that's the guy who helped to write that you know these famous dog. It's when you saw the kinds of things they were doing they were so egregiously wrong and bad like it had to be that someone stood up to them and said well, California buys a lot of tax breaks look at their standards as well. Let's not just let this one control shooting Monopoly power when it's being obviously abused. Let's not only buy into that and I guess hopefully I really don't know what the current state of that is did the textbook manufacturers manufacturers printers give into ridiculous standards or did they make two different versions? That's kind of what I hope is that Texas got the bulb is first Enterprise Texas idiot version and that the rest of the world got whatever the consensus is as to what's true. What significance what does it matter to tell future Generations instead of wage try to put together a propaganda Pam? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question cuz I haven't followed up with it. It was just something I've run across in the publishing world. So maybe it's worth looking into to see if things have changed especially with the e-book Market, you know, and how that is, but with when they're charging like in college you remember? Oh that books $300 exactly. Man. I do remember that, you know that whatever I I paid for half my college my mom and dad, you know, split the cost with me, so that pretty much it came down to you know, they took care of maybe tuition and room-and-board. I went to a state school. So that was all reasonable, but I had to work the entire summer just to get the money that I was going to use for textbooks and them left over. I got to go to a movie right and I had to work during college. I washed test tubes at the materials research lab I slung pizza at Garcia's I had all kinds of things to continue to get that little bit of extra money because you can back then colleges. It was very expensive you if you were from a standard middle class background, you know what I mean? I had my God Like a year scholarship, you know when I but I didn't get a four-year ride. I got $1,000 from Burroughs Corporation cuz I was a National Merit scholar and I always wondered, you know, wow, I I wish that I would have been dead. Like didn't they they after I was through college and this is going to cross has maybe a little bit of like privileged bitching but it really is reality. Like I saw people from our school if they're good at Athletics if they're good at music. They're going to various other things. They really were getting free rides and I was like, wow, I'm like valedictorian and I got all these Awards like I was a mathlete. I got really got like a national recognition type stuff and that turned into a thousand dollars. And and so I knew this is still going to be up to me, you know between my parents saving money for us and and I had two brothers so they were working on putting all of us through college and it wasn't going to be easy. And so we didn't get any of the Daughters of the American Revolution, you know, not not scholarships fellowships, you know, I was dead. Whatever the scholars are that play golf. You know what? I mean? I didn't seem to have I was too vanilla generic American to get it on any of the cool set aside. There wasn't a Lithuanian American things for me a German record. So I guess having said all that it isn't meant to be complaining it really is and this Neil again. Wow, you know record Marte but it's still you really valve or something when it's not handed to you. I knew people that really had college is kind of a four-year party. They didn't have to work hard right to pay. You know, I really wanted my education cuz every time that I took it in another shift at three fifteen an hour. I was sure I was going to get my education money's worth because I did all this crap to get one. You've done sack lunch man, you know, I'm getting up at five thirty in the morning to be there for 6 to 7:30 while everybody else is making their sack lunches cuz they're not be able to make it back to the dorms, etc. Etc. I did whatever was necessary cuz I knew that I had to get that off. Free and kind of like give myself a leg up on Life College was going to help me. Let's do this, you know that and not the put down any of that. I think that's important but I think in today's world lots of people are questioning the value of college as much that we agree. There are way too many kids getting out of college. Oh, I was there for four years. We owe $87,000. I've been working and can't pay for any of it yet. Right and what do I get a job doing? I'm working at Target. How you doing? Welcome to Target, you know, and and it's not just one or two. It's a lot and that we we've talked about us doing some of our talks and speeches and going out and giving these the one I've been working on is off directly addressing that how it's the kids coming up are looking at it going. Okay, wait a second. You want me to give you like a hundred thousand dollars so you can give me a certificate that dog. As I'm good at such and such but there's no jobs in that and I may have to work at the zoo, you know, you know, you can't do the cost-benefit analysis and for many people starting off with that hundred-thousand-dollar Millstone on their neck. Yeah doesn't make any sense. I agree and what these kids are discovering is I don't even have to go work for somebody else. I have everything. I need in my phone, you know, they can't smoke in McDonald's because McDonald's has a kiosk and a burger making machine. There's one guy sitting there doing the crossword puzzle making sure the machine keeps working and and it sounds funny to us, but it's a reality show. We thought five years ago. Hey, we're going to push for McDonald's to pay their employees fifteen dollars an hour and then McDonald's responded with okay. We'll pay you $15 an hour. But instead of ten of years. I only need to write cuz now we got so much automation pushing against whatever efficiencies exactly. So, you know that they can't even work at the burger joints or the pizza places cuz now with covid-19 Online and driving through the drive-through or swinging by, you know, they're not even delivering as much that's a guess on my part. I definitely more.

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Accelerate!

Accelerate!

06:09 min | 6 months ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Accelerate!

"So you probably have your own reflections upon the the sales training, but you know I was told by our manager Hey Rick Andy. Paul is going to be joining you. He's. Straight from school. He's from Stanford. He's a history major and he wants to get into sales and I think my reaction to our manager of the branch. So why? Are you kidding me. And I say that in kind of a laughing way because I don't know if I would have picked a stanford history manager as the major as the. Person I was gonNA roll into this. But I had to reflect a little bit that I was an unusual fit to because I graduated three years before they got a point out. And I was an accounting major and went out and interviewed with what we call big eight accounting firms. Yeah exactly that was the term we use and I don't want to do this. So, I started looking for other things got a referral to burroughs. Corporation had never heard of boroughs relies was a computer company. At, the time IBM and Xerox really weren't. Quickly so I joined. Boroughs, but it it made me reflect upon you Andy Yeah No. That I I was given a chance. I need to give this guy a chance to. And boy you you exceeded expectations I do have this mental image of when you get back from class and finally came to work that first Monday that I met you. I go wow. Dark. Dark Pinstripe suit. Shirt look sharp. Yes I I'm I'm thinking back now red tie. And I'm thinking does he think he joined IBM? So my my first impression of you is that that dark suit and that little bit of a smile you have. And You know a the Stanford History Major. So hopefully, I'm answering your question but a lot of history right there. So Brian who is the boss of the whole branch and at that time for people? Don't have the history burrows was the number two computer company in the world eventually became what we now know as Unisys but Yeah Brian, the big boss in the office. Yet he he was very reluctant to hire me hidden never hired anybody from from Stanford only one to hire undergraduate business majors are accounting majors and. And Yeah. He was not a typical convince him that. He had made the right move. You you. You didn't didn't take long to convince me though I was impressed with the. You can analyze you could listen well. And put together a path forward or an answer or strategy, or whatever, and I was respectful of that and that actually. I reflected on that Andy when I discovered, you know in in recent times that you'd gotten into the career you have now for the last twenty years. And it made me smile because I can picture you doing that of sales coaching mentoring. Teaching Strategies. Et CETERA. It made me smile you. You have a background for that. And only knowing you're doing that today. You know could I reflect on the Andy that I'm headed nineteen, seventy eight? Well as was interesting though is that so yeah, I. You joined right when. We had the six-week computer training classes, trainers, how to sell computers, tell Saalbach computers and so on. and a little bit of selling and and I'm after my first two week training class they sent us to for sales. Training. Is Yeah. The the response from the trainers was that I was never gonNA make 'cause I was too analytical interesting I would I would have used I. I could agree with that word for initial impression, but I would also. Use professorial. And I think that actually. Fits in well with what you're doing today and have been doing for quite a while. Well, I'm certainly. Getting those topic a little bit deeper because you know this idea of How you learn how to sell us something that I'm. Passionate about right as is you we've got these huge savings training industry. That's that's blossomed in this country twenty billion dollars a year spent on it and I think that we serve lost the plot. Fundamentally in apprenticeship. And the people are not sell from managers island South from you they learn from their peers they learned from their customers. Bound. Is In class training class what Ten weeks on my first two. We actually used to have training classes which. I would agree a lot of money is spent on sales training today, but I think there's a lot of people who say. Wow I wish I had some sales training but you and I had a benefit of a lot of that in our early days I spent a lot of time trying to actively forget. Now do you remember? DO YOU REMEMBER LIBOR? Yeah Oh. My Gosh Libranoy you'd have to keep your listeners will have to look at that because that's a legendary story in itself but all about sales training that you and I could talk stories about forever. They used we used to basically go to what a boot camp type sessions and be locked up in a hotel centers for two or three. Days for weeks at a time for you know we we came out having to pass those sessions and be somewhat capable or we had to repeat them. Yeah. But I also find that. They were so. Different from WHO I was right. One of the things that I'd valued about you as a manager was that the you gave me the freedom to develop my own mountain way of doing things..

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Accelerate!

Accelerate!

06:32 min | 6 months ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Accelerate!

"Yeah well, that gets back to this whole thing about relationship. Right I mean there's that's interesting. There's. been the surf undercurrent trend to some degree to be sales over the last several years the. Idea of relationships is overstated and and I all I think well, that's really nuts to think that because everything starts with that connection, you make with somebody but your point here is that was really the lifeblood of Your Business Oh ab absolutely and really my for for most of really all of those years in selling the public sector. Either myself as an individual contributor or my teams whether on the field or the inside their job was to be out there they were end user account managers. To call to retain the business with customers or to acquire it from new customers. Their job was to face that customer the route to market we would call it. Wonder, it's directly or through a partner or a solution provider integrator that that was completely independent. That's a whole different discussion that the job of my folks was to create that. Let's just call it a brand preference. In my case. You, our bias was HP. Yeah well had. This is so so fundamental. Yet I said always amazes me that People WanNa, underestimate the power of relationships and and if you talk about government work, they'd think Oh. Yeah. It's all our ps and so on. But yeah, I remember again back even selling to the DOD years ago or watching colleague sell to it's it's like it started with the relationship. Undefined undefined available contract vehicle to fund a program you want develop. Star with the relationship. Exactly and that that would be the kind of people that we wanted particularly in the field jobs or maybe we started them through inside sales and groom into field jobs. That knew how to go out and thrive and have fun. With that customer facing work. And I'll tell you quite frankly I mean that's that's obviously a challenge right now. Having, the face to face contact, it will be back at some point and we'll probably be more important than ever and folks that are have a title account executives, sales representative you know whatever you want to use. Their their job will be to Giddy up if you will and get out in front of that customer when the reopening opportunities are there what I agree I mean I saw posed this question on Lincoln a week or two ago about okay. Fast forward. February twenty, twenty one. You're working on a big deal that's that even though it's early in the year is probably GonNa make your year and the customer wants you to come visit face to face for the final meeting and. And they assure you everything's GonNa be above board, Lia Masks and so on. But what do you do? Do, you put on the mask and go order you think Nah. Let's see if we can do at virtually. and. Is Interest I think probably three cores of people said, they'd get on the plane and go I would hope they would answer that I that way because sales and relationships, it's a I'll use just loosely use the word game, but it's a game of little things exactly and if if you're GonNa be you know if you can improve your odds by being in front of the prospect or client. Lot smarter than the person says, let's do it via an awkward zoom call that maybe the client doesn't know how to use very well. And or text or an email or or a phone call or whatever. Even if they do know how to use zoom well to your point, it's and I've written about this in my book. You only one percent better right to win. What what's the margin of victory cheer point about the little things what asked you. So when you want that deal, how much better were you than the other the competitors and no one can quantify that difference right? So you just have to assume you need to be one percent better. I just need to be a little bit better. And if that's getting a Blaine making the call then in person than go do it it's it's an it's no brainer answer Andy and but I would just shake my head sometimes for people that even in in in days where we were not talking about, you know pandemic limitations people that did not get that and what I would certainly coach. Sales teams where there are tried operate. Myself is every moment. You're spending with. Customer or prospect. Is One less moment there with your competitors. Exactly Guy Sakes do it exactly I. Mean I think that's the perspective is not used enough as it. Yeah. Every minute year with them, the competitor is not. And Yeah I've used this term in the past as your one which trying to do is is take prospects off the street meaning what you WanNa do is you want to reduce their incentive to go talk to somebody else. And being there in person having great great conversations great discovery calls whatever stage you're in is one way to do that again in person. So so let's go back to the beginning because let's talk. Let's talk about. Let's talk about me. So. When you took over the sales team, you inherited me, I, have been on board maybe know six months or something like that Just. How bad was I? Well you know I see earlier discussion here. Do I really I. Don't know if I want to offend you early on here. where? I'm smiling laughing too. So but I, I got my start at the burroughs corporation I in the Seattle Area I took a promotion to go to Oakland. California, take over my first sales team and that was in. This is going to be very painful to say, but in nineteen, seventy, eight. and. I know I know and right away your listeners are going. Oh my God to at least one guy on the phone. But I took over the sales team and you know it was a newly minted manager and. You're actually off at training. Yeah okay. Yeah I didn't meet you right away..

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Adventures in Finance: A Real Vision Podcast

Adventures in Finance: A Real Vision Podcast

02:37 min | 6 months ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Adventures in Finance: A Real Vision Podcast

"Not, really in business the real. In the early seventies, I started out my career, a writing software for burroughs corporation big machines kind of took up rooms had air conditioning and the elevated floors all that. But again, into get interested in finance in the late seventies and. Of course things were not great in America but I, remember sitting down with my dad's thinking, I might be a good time to go into finance they think things are starting to change. I think it was pretty lucky to understand that ben because I didn't really know much but it turned out that was the right idea. So. For me when I got started in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty s the the bull market was almost over I remember January beatty very well when gold really went nuts in upon. All the time I stepped viewing history. Now, one of the mind blowing things to me was from like October of seventy nine to early. January eighty, the price of gold doubled after Paul Volcker told you exactly what he was GonNa do. It took to back it up nobody believed him and I think I like to bring the Vignette up because today central bankers are revered mean people think they walk on water and it can't make mistakes we both know that's not true and it'll come to pass. We'll discuss that's that's one of the reasons why I'm in but back then Volcker was doing accurate thing they didn't believe him. So that's the power of that's the power of psychology in my opinion in once it gets going in one direction hard shifted in any case so I spent. Left the brokerage business in the join money became a partner small money management firm nine, hundred eighty-two, and I really wasn't involved in the resource sector much. But for we were, we were contracts and dying investor. So oil or something we'd get we get involved and eighty-six. Chief, and so I started looking at in addition additional oil drillers and I started studying the mining industry a little bit. But I didn't really and I got kind of infatuated with silver in the early nineties because it was so cheap. You know it was, but it stayed cheap for decade. And so I learned about that. But. Ultimately has. Led to me becoming more involved in metals and mining. Now, the most anything else was because I was convinced that the Federal Reserve was going down a bad path and I thought Greenspan was very poor. stored the Fed in he only went from bad to worse to worst worst there and in nineteen, ninety, six I decided that..

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Lance McAlister

Lance McAlister

05:50 min | 10 months ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Lance McAlister

"Hundred. Wwl WWL's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet here. Jeff Walker's in at nine tonight by the way this from Jackie macmullan of ESPN the Naismith Basketball Hall of fame. Enshrinement ceremony for Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett will now be pushed to twenty twenty one and if you missed it earlier. No negotiations today between the owners and players. Usa Today reporting the players and their agents meeting to in the Union meeting to discuss a counter proposal to send back to the owner by the way along those lines. And this was Gives you an idea of how some things are going within? Trevor Bauer has tweeted the following. Tonight this was three hours ago pitcher. Trevor Bauer hearing a lot lot capitalized. All three letters L. O. T. hearing a lot of rumors about a certain player agent meddling in MLB Affairs Major League Baseball Players Association. If true and at this point these are only rumors. I have one thing to say. Scott Boras Rep your clients however you want but keep your damn personal agenda out of union business of ood. He followed that tweet with did know. He had a twitter account. Now that I know and the included at burroughs corporation so Scott would see it very interesting To know all the behind the scenes of how this being I I think in general we know how it's being received when players are being asked to in many cases take a seventy five percent pay cut but how it is playing on one end of the pay scale versus the other end of the pay scale with the players making a million less basically getting that versus those when they hire in being asked to take dramatic pay cuts again for all the those who are bent out of shape and fed up. I I get that frustration to some extent. And we're GONNA do this early in the show tomorrow night but I also think people are are not factoring. This in the belief continues to be the season would start July the fourth. That was the proposal to begin with way back forever ago was the weekend of July. The fourth nothing that is taking place right now is blowing up their deadline. The thought is they still have up until June. The sixth. That's another ten days away. Now it's GonNa be ten painful days of of waiting and in hearing unnamed sources float stuff from each side but people act like they and I go back to the the victory for this and Oh my goodness just play. Nothing has changed from their original plan to play July the fourth so you can be frustrated that the deal's not done but nothing is changing the original plan. So maybe it's just the way I'm wired if if.

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Players balk at MLB's pay cut proposal

Lance McAlister

03:19 min | 10 months ago

Players balk at MLB's pay cut proposal

"Missed it earlier. No negotiations today between the owners and players. Usa Today reporting the players and their agents meeting to in the Union meeting to discuss a counter proposal to send back to the owner by the way along those lines. And this was Gives you an idea of how some things are going within? Trevor Bauer has tweeted the following. Tonight this was three hours ago pitcher. Trevor Bauer hearing a lot lot capitalized. All three letters L. O. T. hearing a lot of rumors about a certain player agent meddling in MLB Affairs Major League Baseball Players Association. If true and at this point these are only rumors. I have one thing to say. Scott Boras Rep your clients however you want but keep your damn personal agenda out of union business of ood. He followed that tweet with did know. He had a twitter account. Now that I know and the included at burroughs corporation so Scott would see it very interesting To know all the behind the scenes of how this being I I think in general we know how it's being received when players are being asked to in many cases take a seventy five percent pay cut but how it is playing on one end of the pay scale versus the other end of the pay scale with the players making a million less basically getting that versus those when they hire in being asked to take dramatic pay cuts again for all the those who are bent out of shape and fed up. I I get that frustration to some extent. And we're GONNA do this early in the show tomorrow night but I also think people are are not factoring. This in the belief continues to be the season would start July the fourth. That was the proposal to begin with way back forever ago was the weekend of July. The fourth nothing that is taking place right now is blowing up their deadline. The thought is they still have up until June. The sixth. That's another ten days away. Now it's GonNa be ten painful days of of waiting and in hearing unnamed sources float stuff from each side but people act like they and I go back to the the victory for this and Oh my goodness just play. Nothing has changed from their original plan to play July the fourth so you can be frustrated that the deal's not done but nothing is changing the original plan. So maybe it's just the way I'm wired if if and then they say well. There's not going to be a season or well now. We're not GONNA have time to do this or that. That I could see like kicking and screaming and ranting and raving but to do it now just seems because you feel like being mad about something because nothing. They're doing is disrupting their original plan. Timeline that they set up to play baseball July Fourth. So until that changes okay. Let me know when you're done and we'll play baseball July. The fourth

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Lance McAlister

Lance McAlister

05:42 min | 10 months ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Lance McAlister

"Hundred wwl wwl's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet here Jeff Walker's in at nine tonight by the way this from Jackie macmullan of ESPN the Naismith Basketball Hall of fame enshrinement ceremony for Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan and Kevin. Garnett will now be pushed to twenty twenty one and if you missed it earlier, no negotiations today between the owners and players USA Today, reporting the players and their agents meeting to in the Union meeting to discuss a counter proposal to send back to the owner by the way along those lines, and this was gives you an idea of how some things are going within Trevor Bauer has tweeted the following tonight. This was three hours ago. PITCHER! Trevor. Bauer hearing a lot lot capitalized all three letters, l., O., T. hearing a lot of rumors about a certain player agent meddling in MLB. Affairs Major League Baseball Players Association if true. And at this point, these are only rumors. I have one thing to say. Scott Boras. Rep Your clients, however you want. But keep your damn personal agenda out of union business of ood. He followed that tweet with did know he had a twitter account. Now that I know and the included at Burroughs Corporation, so Scott would see. Very interesting to know all the behind the scenes of how this being I I think in general we know how it's being received when players are being asked to. In many cases, take a seventy five percent pay cut, but how it is playing on one end of the pay scale versus the other end of the pay scale with the players, making a million less basically getting that versus those when they hire in being asked to take dramatic pay cuts again for all the those who are bent out of shape and fed up I I get that frustration to some extent and we're gonNA. Do this early in the show tomorrow night, but I also think people are are not factoring this in. The belief continues to be. The season would start July. The fourth that was the proposal to begin with way back forever ago was the weekend of July the fourth. Nothing that is taking place right now is blowing up their deadline. The thought is they still have up until June the sixth. That's another ten days away now. It's GONNA be ten painful days of of waiting and in hearing unnamed sources float stuff from each side, but people act like they and. I. Go back to the the victory for this and Oh. My goodness just play. Nothing has changed from their original plan to play July the fourth. So. You can be frustrated that the deal's not done, but. Nothing is changing the original plan so. Maybe it's just the way I'm wired if if.

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on KXNT NewsRadio 840 AM

KXNT NewsRadio 840 AM

09:11 min | 1 year ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on KXNT NewsRadio 840 AM

"Big sports fan being from buffalo western New York big Buffalo Sabres fan Buffalo Bills fan and while the Buffalo Sabres are having their fiftieth anniversary season last week they honored one of the owners who came at a crucial time for the Buffalo Sabres they were in bankruptcy our special guest today came and bought the Buffalo Sabres turn them around made the Stanley Cup Finals a success story not only owning the Buffalo Sabres but for his other business ventures including founding paychecks which today does revenue in excess of three billion dollars she started it in Rochester New York now is a noted philanthropist and a new author great book picked up couldn't put it down finished in two nights built not born a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs my pleasure to welcome Tom Golisano today to the cigar Dave show I was reading a buffalo news article before our guest Tom Golisano who also founded Paychex was heading over to the arena to be honored he went over to the buffalo club and had a cigar and I have found out that he is a huge cigar connoisseur not always successful one of us enjoys great cigars so it is my pleasure to welcome Tom Golisano to the cigar Dave show Tom great to have you with us nice to be here with you this morning end up let me ask I know that our mutual friend Larry Quinn said you are a huge cigar connoisseur on page for the book your reference cigars which we will get to talk about how you got into cigars and what's the guards you enjoy well I was a cigarette smoker for a number of years as starting out when I was about twenty but a mid forties and gave them up quite a few years ago I was on a vacation with the family and we happen to be in a place in the Bahamas celebrating new year's and my sister was in a gift shop so I went in behind there and I saw some cigars and I knew my nephew was with me and my grandson so I grabbed a few and I said I think I'll try one of these well that was about five or six years ago and I don't know if I'm an aficionado yet but at least I am a cigar smoker I enjoy them I I do specialize in bid rounds as this is the anniversary series all right great cigars yeah in fact other padrone family are toes a Oprah drone who founded put drone was just a great gentleman and his two sons George Orlando continue on their legacy and very much in the quality so fantastic cigars you cannot go wrong actually work you also have a home down in Naples the rocky Patel cigar lounge burn is right down there another great place to get cigars I don't know if you've ever been there or not yes I have been there it's quite location nice perhaps absolutely disseminate pulls will absolutely have to get together and and have a cigar I want to talk about your your book built not born incredible big it's a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs Tom the one thing I loved about this book it was an easy read it was a conversational read I didn't feel like I had to trudge through I read this book in two nights and it was I just I couldn't put it down just very interesting and the first thing that I noticed right off the bat which I think told me a lot about you in the acknowledgments the dedication section you listed every one of your original paycheck a paychecks partners and franchisees which I thought was quite interesting well they were very intraparty growth of the company all of them except one lived in Rochester New York and then moved to various parts of the country to start a similar paychecks office so they deserve a tremendous amount of credit they the ones that make it it made it happen well I want to talk about your before we get into paychecks talk about your background you grew up in Rochester and you did not have an easy a childhood you really had to work and you had I was really impressed by the fact that you were so candid and honest in your book you had a tough time growing up you had to really help up you know provide for your family yes my mom and dad had to go through bankruptcy when I was a teenager in high school and it was a real tough time you know when somebody comes to get the car and get the cards it's a real wake up call and then they were also threatening to take the house fortunately my mother's hard work at my fathers the termination we made our way through it and were able to regain ourselves but it was a very tough experience you know for a teenage boy living in a suburban neighborhood like that but we got through it and it taught me some very important lessons and the most important lesson wasn't wanted always be sure that I don't get myself in that position because what you can do to a family and what I can do to your psyche is just overwhelming you know in your book which I found was interesting you talk about the fact that there is people think if you go work for a company that you've got a guaranteed job and everything is cushy and that's not the case anymore certainly not as a cradle to grave mentality cradle to grave security mentality just doesn't exist today and right in Rochester New York is there such an excellent example Eastman Kodak company was known for a cradle to grave security for employees well the nineteen sixties and nineteen eighty two they had about sixty thousand employees in Rochester today they have less than three thousand that's what's happened to that organization have regrettably but people that work there did not bat that it counts on the fact that they were going to be financially secure so it can be very risky working for a company you know you can do really well as an employee but if you department doesn't do well or be department does well to the vision doesn't do well or and so on and the company get sold out from under you are close is for some reason you really and that could be a difficult position owning a business as a real benefits when it comes to the fact that eventually you may be able to sell your business you can't sell a job in second leg you may want to pass on your business to an air but Sandra daughter whoever and that's one of the real advantages of being having your own business being an entrepreneur and in a way it almost seems less risky than working for a large company Tom Golisano author of the book built not born a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs the founder of paychecks and in addition to being a successful entrepreneur business person also a major philanthropists which we will get to in a bit Tom to you before you started paychecks before you're in the payroll processing business you work for another company but you had some other businesses you were always the entrepreneur type you had some other businesses that you would founded one kind of in media a company called bidders guide I was a sales person for Burroughs corporation which you back in those days old counting machines for accounting applications similar to what PC's do today and one of my prospects with ability outside of Rochester and they wanted the machine to do water billing for their residents in their community so I made a presentation the the town clerk in that town board members seem to like my presentation I was pretty got up and I was going to get the deal I was telling my branch manager about it my branch manager says will make sure they advertise their business notice in the local newspaper not the Rochester Democrat and chronicle so I said what's that all about this is well they advertised in a local newspaper that Gary I'm frequently read the better chance the capitation won't see at home and I started thinking about all the products municipalities and school districts purchase and how many newspapers there were in upstate New York if I subscribe to the mom edit or cut out all the dead advertisements for the man to a publication three times a week that I would put out it's simply by mimeograph I might have a product that companies would buy so I decided to leave girls and started a company called videos guide and that was in nineteen sixty or I believe I was at a public forum about a year ago and that two young men walked up to me and said we owned it is guide which was the name of the company I was astonished I didn't know it was still in existence and basically these gentleman bought it it's a little different in its presentation today using the internet instead of mimeographed but it's still going and obviously still has value I still believes guide to start paychecks it was the end and they have adopted to the change of.

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO

News 96.5 WDBO

09:04 min | 1 year ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO

"Sports fan being from buffalo western New York pick Buffalo Sabres fan Buffalo Bills fan and while the Buffalo Sabres are having their fiftieth anniversary season last week they honored one of the owners who came at a crucial time for the Buffalo Sabres they were in bankruptcy our special guest today came and bought the Buffalo Sabres turn them around made the Stanley Cup Finals a success story not only owning the Buffalo Sabres but for his other business ventures including founding paychecks which today does revenue in excess of three billion dollars she started it in Rochester New York now is a noted philanthropist and a new author great book picked up couldn't put it down finished in two nights built not born a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs my pleasure to welcome Tom Golisano today to the cigar Dave show I was reading a buffalo news article before our guest Tom Golisano who also founded Paychex was heading over to the arena to be honored he went over to buffalo club and had a cigar and I have found out that he is a huge cigar connoisseur not always successful one of us enjoys great cigars so it is my pleasure to welcome Tom Golisano to the cigar Dave show Tom great to have you with us nice to be here with you this morning end up let me ask I know that our mutual friend Larry Quinn said you were huge cigar connoisseur on page for the book your reference cigars which we'll get to talk about how you got into cigars and what's the guards you enjoy well I was a cigarette smoker for a number of years as starting out when I was about twenty but at mid forties I gave them up quite a few years ago I was out on a vacation with the family and we happen to be in a place in the Bahamas celebrating new year's and my sister was in a gift shop so I went in behind there and I saw some cigars and I knew my nephew was with me and my grandson so I grabbed a few and I said I think I'll try one of these well that was about five or six years ago and I don't know if I'm an aficionado yet but at least I am a cigar smoker I enjoy them I I do specialize in brown's this is the anniversary series all right great cigars yeah in fact other padrone family are toes a Oprah drone who founded by drone was just a great gentleman and his two sons George Orlando continue on their legacy and very much in the quality so fantastic cigars you cannot go wrong actually work you also have a home down in Naples the rocky Patel cigar lounge burn is right down there another great place to get cigars I don't know if you've ever been there or not yes I have been there it's quite location nice perhaps absolutely disseminate pulls will absolutely have to get together and and have a cigar I want to talk about your your book built not born incredible big it's a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs Tom the one thing I loved about this book it was an easy read it was a conversational read I didn't feel like I had to trudge through I read this book in two nights and it was I just I couldn't put it down just very interesting and the first thing that I noticed right off the bat which I think told me a lot about you in the acknowledgments the dedication section you listed every one of your original paycheck a paychecks partners and franchisees which I thought was quite interesting well they were very integral part of the growth of the company all of them except one lived in Rochester New York and then moved to various parts of the country to start a similar paychecks office so they deserve a tremendous amount of credit they're the ones that make it it made it happen well I want to talk about your before we get into paychecks talk about your background you grew up in Rochester and you did not have an easy a childhood you really had to work and you had I was really impressed by the fact that you were so candid and honest in your book you had a tough time growing up you had to really help up you know provide for your family yes my mom and dad had to go through bankruptcy when I was a teenager in high school and it was a real tough time you know when somebody comes to get the car and get the car it's a real wake up call and then they were also threatening to take the house fortunately my mother's hard work at my fathers determination we made our way through it and were able to regain ourselves but it was a very tough experience you know for a teenage boy living in a suburban neighborhood like that but we got through it and it taught me some very important lessons and the most important lesson wasn't wanted always be sure that I don't get myself in that position because you can do to a family and what I can do to your psyche is just overwhelming you know in your book which I found was interesting you talk about the fact that there's people think if you go work for a company they've got a guaranteed job and everything is cushy and that's not the case anymore certainly not as a cradle to grave mentality really great security mentality just doesn't exist today and right in Rochester New York is there such an excellent example Eastman Kodak company was known for a cradle to grave security for employees well in nineteen sixty and nineteen eighty two they had about sixty thousand employees in Rochester today they have less than three thousand that's what happened to that organization I regrettably well people that work there did not bat count on the fact that they were going to be financially secure so it can be very risky working for a company you know you could do really well as an employee but if you department doesn't do well or be department does well to envision doesn't do well or and so on and the company get sold out from under you or close for some reason you really in that could be a difficult position owning a business as a real benefits when it comes to the fact that eventually you may be able to sell your business you can't sell a job in second leg you may want to pass on your business to an air but Saunders daughter whoever and that's one of the real advantages of being having your own business being an entrepreneur and in a way it almost seems less risky than working for a large company Tom Golisano author of the book built not born a self made billionaires no nonsense guide for entrepreneurs the founder of paychecks and in addition to being a successful entrepreneur business person also a major philanthropists which we will get to in a bit Thompson you before you started paychecks before you're in the payroll processing business you work for another company but you had some other businesses you were always the entrepreneur type you had some other businesses that you would founded one kind of in media a company called bitters guide I was a sales person for Burroughs corporation which you back in those days old counting machines for accounting applications similar to what PC's do today and one of my prospects with ability outside of Rochester in a lot of the machine to do water billing for their residents in their community so I made a presentation the the town clerk in the town board members seem to like my presentation I was pretty captain I was going to get the deal I was telling my branch manager about it my branch manager says will make sure the advertiser bid notice in the local newspaper not the Rochester Democrat and chronicle so I said what's that all about this is well they advertised in the local newspaper that's very I'm frequently read the better chance the capitation won't see at home and I started thinking about all the products municipalities and school districts purchase and how many newspapers there were in upstate New York if I subscribe to the mom edit or cut out all the bit advertisements for the man to a publication three times a week that I would put out it's simply by mimeograph I might have a product that companies would buy so I decided to leave burrows and started a company called video guide now that was in nineteen sixteen or I believe I was at a public forum about a year ago and that two young men walked up to me and said we own British guy which was the name of the company I was astonished I didn't know it was still in existence and basically these gentleman bought it it's a little different in its presentation today using the internet instead of mimeographed but it's still going and obviously still has value I still believes guy the third paychecks interesting and and they have adopted to the change of in.

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"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

07:04 min | 1 year ago

"burroughs corporation" Discussed on Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

"Our desire to go after the low end of the market for two reasons number one. There are so many more of them more more. Small businesses than larger businesses would fall into the paychecks range. Secondly and here's a little bit of the key to paychecks success the way rape payroll processes process. is they charge you per check created in other words one. For every one of your employees the more employees you have have on the payroll the lesser per check. You'RE GONNA pay payroll processor. Got Another words. If you're a hundred person payroll you may only a fifty cents. I'm just pulling these numbers out of the year. You may only fifty cents a check. But if you're five-person payroll your total. Bill might be seven dollars dollars. Which means you're paying a dollar forty at check? The revenue from ten ten person payrolls is two and a half times more than it would be for one hundred percent payroll to get that Yup Avenue. Ten- tense would be two and a half times greater than one hundred person payroll now. I I think it's easier to sell ten times in one hundred because all the other processors are going after those large clients so it's much easier to sell the ten tents and their respective overhead is not consistent with the the fact that it's ten companies instead of one another which we can operate we can do. Ten payrolls take easily as we can do one one hundred. There's gotta be something that you do or Worldview worldviews that you have that. Most people don't have because a lot of people I just don't become millionaires. Let alone billionaires do you have maybe in addition to your book do you have. Maybe some books that you'd recommend or do you have a kind of a pithy quote you'd like like to share with people or or what's your big tip for our listeners out there. Well I'll tell you I'll give you some people. Ask Me if I had a mentor. You're I don't think I've ever had a mentor. What I've had is a bunch of negative mentors in other words as a salesperson for paychecks? The company I told before and the company that burroughs corporation I was exposed to a lot of small business people and I learned a lot more watching watching them. Operate when they were doing well rather than when they were doing great. So I've learned watching people make mistakes. I think that helped help the most Also I think I did a pretty good job at keeping. The company focused both on product line and and achieving sales quotas that was number one importance to our management team that we always fails scores and sales goals Tom. I've got a question for you if you could go back. Say The mid seventies you you've got paychecks started in seventy one. You've kind of hit that critical mass of at that point. Where you you said in your interview earlier said it? Looks like you're going to make it your friends. It looks like you're going to make it if you go back to that time for back going back in the old time machine gene and talk to yourself. What advice? What would you say to yourself at that time? Well a number of things I'll give you one is as soon as we went public. I came out with a product line. That was much different than what we were doing. It was a similar to monster DOT COM. But it was before the Internet now we made an investment in it but the sad part of it. The the bed partner who was Wall Street did not like us going into a diversified business. Much different than what we were doing. No soon after in public so our stock price suffrage average some periods of time because of that now after a year I said that's enough and we closed it down Secondly you know I said we brought in ten partners and six franchisees. I probably could have done it with fewer people. Sure it just pay their territories Larger than they would have had less those people to deal with. Yeah excellent there you go and now. We're on a personal note. I've been I've been looking at your bio and countries to research on you a very interesting wresting life you've led but if you could go back say a few years ago and you could either one owner professional. NFL football team. ooh Be the governor of New York. Which one would you choose? Ah Well I've never wanted to own a NFL team you know. I own the hockey team. The Buffalo Sabres right and that was a great experience over an eight year period. I did want to be governor. I tried to be governor three times as an independent independent in New York state which is a tough throw. The two major parties have so much strength in New York state side for an independent. They get elected I. I would've loved that challenge back then I really would have I have I have. I have a couple of final questions here. I've noticed you've donated throughout your career. Tutored and fifty million billion dollars. Is that correct. You've donated over fifty million dollars to charities thus far is that right actually. It's over three hundred million now. Three hundred million. What kind of charities do you do you give to? Who and what charity? You look for in the charities that you give back to the actually. The two categories of charities sounded onto intellectually Developmentally Disabled and Steven is now in his early fifties and but because of his experience We spent he and his mother. We've given quite a bit to organizations that deal with people with developmental disabilities he's We have a foundation set up in our name It gives out approximately two million dollars through two the foundation. Also oh there's a lot of organizations and any community hospitals and schools That type of thing and We probably hit most of them. At least they know if most of them in the Rochester New York area. We're now expanding down to southwest Florida so into individual individuals with developmental elemental. Disabilities is is a major one. But we also help. As many schools schools colleges universities hospitals. Can we have three children's hospitals named after rose one in Rochester Syracuse and one in Naples. Well I'm not sure. What a series of poor life choices that? Tom May end up on our show. But this is the puck on the show and I know he was confused as the how would happen. We've had John Maxwell on the show so many great people but this was one of my favorite interviews. This was awesome awesome. Tom Thank you so much. Yeah thanks appreciate doing it. Hey well I'll tell you what. If we're ever in Naples Florida area we're gonNA bring out our megaphone we have a megaphone phone does not have a megaphone in the studio you actually do megaphone and if you hear some guys running around the water short areas harbor looking for.

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