17 Burst results for "Budd Hopkins"

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

05:42 min | 4 months ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

"And it was one of my lucid vivid dreams and he was sitting. We were sitting on the patio table. Beautiful sunshine palm trees. He looked young and vibrant and healthy. And happy. And i remember. There was a breeze blowing through his hair. And i said what is that you. Oh my god you look fantastic. And i said is it like i told you it was remember how we used to tell you. It was and he just. He'd smile and he will was like a bobble. Not yes not a no but a big smile. And then i realized this dude is wearing a hawaiian shirt. And i start laughing because the budd hopkins. I knew would never wear a hawaiian shirt. all ever remembering in was the little blue and white pinstriped. You know but sure and the sweater but I looked at the sheridan minute. And then i looked at him like oh i get it. It's a metaphor. Your that shirt means paradise. You're telling me you're in paradise right. I'm right. I'm right and again. He just kinda bobbled his head. A little like you did and big smiley face. And i'm like oh we had a conversation i talked. He never said anything to me. But i was just running my mouth like i do and he says and i said i want to finish the book. I finally finished it. you know. And he's like kid. I'm proud of you kid. And then i woke up but when i it's so weird because when i woke up not only did i realize that he was that this message was for me that he was proud of me and what i had done and he was trying to tell me. You know. i'm still here. You were right but I felt like i needed to tell. Lin leslie keen. This message is well. I don't know why so. I sent her a message and told her this whole dream. And i said and for some reason i feel very strongly that he wanted me to also tell you that he's proud of you too and she wrote me right back and she was like. Oh thank you. I'm sure it was him. And it's wonderful. What i did not know at that. Time.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

05:52 min | 4 months ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

"Midnight. I hear this commotion in the hallway. And i look out and here's my old man. Hobbling down the hallway. He woke my brother up and he may my brother bringing to the hospital at midnight and i said what the hell are you doing here. Dead and he said your mother called me. And i said no she didn't. I've been sitting next to her all night and she's been slayton he goes. Did i say she used the phone. Okay and she passed away at eleven o'clock the next morning. So you obviously are part of a legacy of experiencers not just of et contact per se but a whole litany of experiences. You talk about this in your book by the way. I wanna give a plug to extraordinary contact life beyond intruders. I wanna talk about budd hopkins and how you got hooked up with him so much there. But here's the one of the points. I wanna make about that. You make it very clear. deborah. I've heard you say this before and talks. And he mentioned this in the book that you feel if there's a correlation between the contact phenomenon the abduction phenomenon and other paranormal esque experiences Talk about that for a little bit. Because you've had so many different types of encounters not one-size-fits-all definitely now. I've had weird life. I wanted to title my book. Weird life but the publisher thought that probably wouldn't be the greatest title. I'm like why not it's true. But yes i do. I feel that way you know. Obviously i like i said before. We've had what people consider. Paranormal things happen. All around us. All my life and i just took it for granted that everybody could see these things in and had these happen when i found out that maybe people aren't talking about like i do but and for instance like the the craft in the backyard so to speak. I don't feel like that was something that people fly from another planet to get here. And i felt i don't know how to put it because these things came to me in dreams. I would have dreams lucid dreams and waking thoughts that would pester me until i'd write.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on The Confessionals

The Confessionals

07:00 min | 4 months ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on The Confessionals

"Right today we got a much anticipated guest This is somebody that and forgive me the listener out there. That took me off to deborah. But i don't remember odd or else. I'd give you a shot but today we have deborah jordan cope I was practicing. Your last name righto myself. I was going to mess it up. It's kabul right that's right it's not really mine. It's my husband's so it's okay. I used to do the same thing you know. I used to work with a guy. he was italian and his last name was still can't pronounce it and the one day i was talking to. He's he was probably about sixty five. pushing seventy and i was walking with and through the terminal one day and i said boom hey guy. How do i pronounce your last name. He just looked like. I don't even know right. That's not where i was when i first got married. It's fun time. So deborah we're gonna be talking to you about some things today and It's gonna be very much fluent conversation wherever you want to go with it and You have a life of experiences. In fact the more. I learned about you the more i realized that. I don't think we can tackle everything about your life in one show unless you have about twenty four hours to talk straight then. We could probably do it. So i don't know if i got the voice for that certainly don't either But you have been on the ufo talking circuit and stuff at conferences based off of your experience with what you and your family went through and But that's not all you guys have gone through paranormal experiences. And that's something. I found interesting because A lot of times people who are speaking for ufo stuff that i've seen They tend not to talk about the other stuff. And you're and every time. I hear you talk. You mentioned you're like and we've had a lot of paranormal stuff and kind of gets glossed over with the ufo shows. But i talk about everything so get gave for whatever but I wanted before we get into your experience though. I wanna let people have the opportunity to find out who you are so if you could just let them know you know what what you're about and maybe where they can find your book or actually books because he just came out the second one well yeah. My name's debbie jordan kabul but people in the ofo community old especially old-timers will probably know of me better under the pseudo name that budd hopkins gave me when he wrote intruders the incredible visitations at copa woods which was about me and my family and experience. I had on june thirty eighty three plus a lot more stuff But the pseudonym that he gave me in that book was kathy davis so a lot of people might know me more by that if they know me at all of this whole new generation you know of people don't know who i have at all. I mean the june thirty eighty three incident. That's the central part of intruders. That happened thirty eight years ago. Chai can't believe that was just the thirty eight th anniversary of it this past june thirtieth but and You know but hopkins who he wrote missing time that he wrote intruders and he wrote witnessed and i believe he wrote a book. Called sight. unseen He he's like a pioneer in the field of ufology Especially along the subjects of abductions and contacts in c. e. foresee fives and i. I had reached out to him. After that particularly harrowing incident in eighty three. I got his address out of the book missing time and went back at the book out of the library running a big ladder. And that's how i got contact connected with him but you know after. He wrote intruders. He traveled around a lot Speaking at conferences. And stuff and i would go with him occasionally. I was real nervous about it. And honestly we really didn't wanna book written at the time when i reached out i just wanted to know what was going on and and help normalcy you know but ended up their being the book and then there was a mini series picked up. I think it was nine hundred. Ninety two of the same name and there were a lot of scenes in the miniseries that came right out of that book and In my travels around with him which. I didn't do a lot of but i did do some. I got asked the same questions over and over again. Plus other things were happening even after intruders was written. That's when i decided that i wrote that. First book it was called abducted the story of intruders continues and it was actually written with my older sister who also had had some experiences with A ufo back in the sixties so that book came out time passed. My experiences changed the paranormal stuff. Really kicked in Just all kinds of weird things happened in my life and even regular life. Got kind of weird. If you times you know so I kind of pulled away. And i'd really didn't like talking about this. Didn't wanna talk about it. I was done. I was like my attitude was like this leamy alone. I want to normal life and is trying to be invisible. You know not work. That destiny had other plans for me. Because i kept getting drop kicked right back into it with one experience or another and so i ended up working on this book that just came out a few weeks ago called extraordinary contact life beyond intruders and at actually got finished. I worked on that book for years and years. And sometimes i have to put it away and not look at it for here because life you know happened and i was working fulltime for fifteen years in a factory and doing all kinds of other stuff and you know just didn't have time but then virus came and the plant that i worked in shut down for seven weeks and in that seven weeks i finished this book and found a publisher who wanted to publish it. So it's done it's out. It takes from intruders forward. You know this is a lifetime of weird stuff. And i'm sixty two years old so that's a lot of stuff you know like you said we won't be able to get a lot of it in an hour or even two but.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on Strange Brew Podcast!

Strange Brew Podcast!

07:45 min | 8 months ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Strange Brew Podcast!

"And of course our own sun system with a place where they go frequently occasionally. That should give me fucking chills down my spine. This is a weird weird ephedra freezing though frequently or occasionally every day or like once every explaining that they're either they're often and they fall these trade routes often and then the ones. She said that her broken up or once they They haven't traveled much. I understand that. I just don't like that. That paraphrasing does that not bother us has frequently or occasionally so means that she said we visited and we know. That's what i'm talking in. Noah says the frequent or occasionally so thinking about. Why mean be there every day or once every seven traveling at light. Speed and speeds that will never understand. And this physical form being on this planet weird paraphrasing. That's confusing. Let's get into a little bit of the interview in general. So this is george morton talking. And i'll do voices out here. You go and early morning. Hours of september one thousand nine hundred ninety six one betty and barney hill were exchanging traveling and desert new hampshire highway. When an event occurred that would change a life forever. Betty it was beautiful night. The moon was very bright. Calm and relaxed. The radio was playing. When i saw a strange light in the sky came out over the highway and stopped directly in front of us. Oh what what. Betty thought she saw was a flying saucer. At this point barney got out with his noculars and attempt to identify the craft. And how is he looked up. He could see a row of men standing in the windows. Looking down at him the craft began to descend and he had the feeling he was being abducted at first. Betty and barney hill recalled only shadowy fragments of what happened that night but much later under hypnosis through memories came in sharper focus. The leader was telling me something. I can see it in his face. These tapes were recorded during noces with barney hill. And this is barney. Give me strength. i've gotta get away. Oh according to the hills extraordinary tell they were forced to board a flying saucer by creatures from space as far as we know we probably at least in modern day life the first time the first ones to have face to face contact with astronauts from another solar system. Betting barney may have been the first but are certainly not the last to report an alien abduction and since that night on the lonely highway thirty three years ago thousands have come forward changing that they too are victims of folk kidnapping recall plus poor suggesting that millions of americans believe in them including budd hopkins. Where the fuck and nineteen sixty four. The cold at an alien telepathic powers. Very much like betty and barney hill discovered just days after the broadcast. Like anything that happened. That's fine. I don't like all of that. What you just bothered me and maybe a line. And i don't like any of that so wrong. I'm going to have nightmares in this in this session. Barney had many recollections such as meeting. This is fucking crazy. Talk about fucking crazy. Shit fucking crazy and their special case so we didn't get him this too much but they swore they saw fucking white. Do's and fucking nazi regalia looked like fucking s s officers fucking recall evil all them in the fucking window when they're looking at them. They thought that they saw like grays hill. Us all reptilians part of this They literally asaf and they said they swore they saw white german looking people with blonde hair and blue eyes and ss uniforms abducted. There were looking over them. They were talking to the reptilians back here saw. How did you a german accent. That that's geeze goud k. Nobody can see. But i really want to just point the fact that every time. Tom does german accent. He sticks his hand out with when we record that episode. You guys at the end kept doing it nine so much nine then you hanging october. Put a sausage volkswagen possible. I love your jus. Oh my god so this is crazy so there is many in. That's why this is could be a whole series of episodes and the session. Barney had many recollections such as meeting an irishman. The had red hair conor mcgregor. It's kind of conor. Mcgregor's ru took me yet. He is talking. It's fucking beard is orange. His is orange. Everything's about him. Orange literally the the most irish men than right now. But i don't know hey carbon so so and this is what i'm saying. How deep this goes the. He and board had recollections of being an irishman that supposedly had red hair but they're they're type of beings which we could also get into another episode jury member member to member member so many mexican out eastern time man. We had the very first like stream. Skype earlier encounters. You member those weird ginger aliens. I do the same thing so these beings were also there that didn't seem to be human and all individuals were dressed in similar looking uniforms. And they're all ginger looking fucks with beards but didn't look human. It's like you're looking fox with like irish weirs fucking shit. And it was weird all hunters another place. If you're you're not wide is they're not screaming at you let you fuck you. Don't like talk. Is the man fucking. Kill you folk in wink. Yeah houston carter. But the fact that like you know what i mean like i also a you've heard about we're in creatures like maybe tentacle arms super total ginger alien. See it's fucking weird. The aliens don't like them gingery. They don't want you to know but.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

06:30 min | 11 months ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Wait, Cane. Over the years, I've interviewed a few mediums and channelers by the way, and Really often end up. Not impressed. I you know, people will, uh, the audience will come in with questions, and there's Just instantly turning around, as if automatically in touch with the spirits of departed loved ones and And they'll give an answer that's completely off and never miss a beat, you know? Oh, yeah, that your mom's dead. Know what your dad Oh, yeah, That's what I was getting into your dad. You know, and never miss a beat and And I've had the channel or same kind of thing where they always seem to have. Ah, upscale British kind of accent is as if all dead people are our British. You have had your own personal experiences, though, with mediums. And You detailed them first in the book. Give me your give me your take in general. I mean, obviously, you think there's something to it? Yeah, And I think you're making a really good point, though, George that there are plenty. I think What you're describing is what we call cold readings where mediums will and they'll do this a lot with groups to just sort of pick up cues from the sitter, and they'll kind of pick up body language, and they'll kind of make you think they're giving you information. When you really already given it to them. They just it's a whole technique. And it's recognizable and I think what's important Percival is. There are a lot of mediums that aren't very good. Or that might even be trying to two people. Or, you know, just in there, but there's a lot of them. They're just People have good intentions, but they don't really have an ability and you just have to be very selective for anybody that wants to have a reading. You've got to be very careful to find a really good medium on the way to do that. I think it's not only through word of mouth, your people that you know who have been to this medium. But as Ricky mentioned, there is an organization called Forever Family Foundation, and they had a Certification program for mediums. So if you go on their website and look at the list of mediums that they have you at least know that these media have been tested through these really rigorous Particles that the organization has to screen out. Medium that can't pass the test and the most of them don't pass. You could start with a pool of medium that you least no have some ability. And there's another organization called the Wind Bridge Research Institute. That does the same thing, so that's one way people could start to find a good medium, But you can't just jump in. Randomly and just don't see anybody. You know you've got to be selective about it. That's that's really, really important, Asai said. You had some personal experiences while working on the book and you you were careful to have sort of a blind test. You were careful to make sure that the medium's you were using could not know anything about you. But if they produce results for you Yeah. I mean, I felt so blessed by the two reasons that I had, which was the first readings I ever had with mental medium before. Um, they were both just Extraordinary readings in the first one was with Laurel in Jackson, who is people who have seen surviving death she does appear. On in the shit theories and does a couple of readings for people. You know, as we filmed them, Um and the second medium, I went to with Standard O'Hara, who also is briefly in the series. I think I wish she had been in it a little bit more. But she's an extraordinary medium from Ireland who is actually available to do. Readings of loyal injection is not available, so I I fortunately had back to back reading to them a couple of months in between, and You know, with Sandra O'Hara, particularly, but with one or two they didn't away was I took out with Sandra. Completely different email address. I had a friend, actually email her on my behalf and, you know, just have nothing to do with my name or anything like that. And then you just I just called her on the days of the reading on Skype, and she didn't know anything about me. So My drawing was dropping open, George, I'll tell you the accuracy of the information that she brought through from to loved ones. One of them is Budd Hopkins. The other one is with my younger brother, who died in 2013 while it was actually writing my book. And I was just blown away, but and I haven't written about it in my book, and I've lifted the things that, she said, and they were just stunningly accurate from both of these people. And she also portrayed the personality very well. They were very different personalities, these two and that came through on the reading as well. So You haven't experienced like that. It really is absolutely wonderful. And but, you know, I've also been with with meeting and where that hasn't happened. So you can't always know. And some mediums that air great might have a bad day or it just might not work out for whatever reason, so I encourage people to not give up. If they don't have a great reading the first time you'll find the medium that works for you. You just persistent and you know Don't go to those websites and cheese. The list of people that they have, but yeah, it was really have been very, very, very good experiences with the very genuine, talented medium, So I was lucky. You know, in the Syriza, You acknowledge that through history. There have been a lot of fraudsters hucksters who've been caught in the act and have been analyzed. You also make the point, though, that While you know it's like counterfeit $100 bills. People know that there is one that doesn't mean they're all fakes. You know that there can be good ones, and you make the point that some of the greatest minds of, say the 19th century. Where deeply interested in this they thought the pursuit was valid. Scientifically. I had a couple of Nobel Prize winners and the curies Mark Twain. William James. It was a very powerful to see all those names and they think that they were interested in in this phenomena so long ago. I agree with you, George. I think it's really important point that most people don't realize it. And it's and then we're talking also about physical mediumship, which is even.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

The Past Lives Podcast

05:35 min | 1 year ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

"The hospital the next day what she does he's. Got Insurance is a veteran, so he goes to the Veterans Hospital and. Sees the doctor and tells him. The whole story doesn't leave anything out, says gray's abducted him. And scratch this marked his arm and the doctor looked at the mark and said well. You know it's not psychosomatic I, don't think. Know it's. Probably a real experience. You can either look at it. As a real experience just move on. Or you can. Not, deny it. He says I just. I suggest accepting it moving on. Which is pretty much what? Did. But what I found fascinating about that was the doctor didn't bat an eye. He didn't seem the least bit surprised and acted like. He can was not first person who's come into his office, talking about being marked by grace. So yeah, it's weird to try and things something I've heard from other people, but came obediently followed these grazed right into the UFO. As if he was hypnotized. They controlled his mind yet to some extent. I another way they sold control. Our perception is through screen memories. Yes. This is a technique they used to. Cover their tracks perhaps. one. I've heard all different kinds of screamers tell you. One Lady. As a little girl see. How have these three foot? Tall teddybears come into her bedroom. And should could always tell that they. Something strange about because there is for very large and dark and piercing hypnotize ing. And she finally saw through this screen memory, and they were actually grays. But I've heard. All kinds owls very common. One Guy told me superheroes. They come dressed up as a superhero. Very, common is clouds so common I've had a number of cases with that. In fact, I wrote about it because Budd Hopkins had cases like that. Peterhof an English researcher. He had. Cases like that. So I know there's a lot opt et's dress up as clowns think in an attempt to reduce the fear factor. Because you know, kids love towns. But what ends up happening? Is it leaves them with dread fear of clowns. which actually look at fear of clowns is pretty prevalent in our society. I'm wondering if this. This technique as sort of backfired on the. Now people only see, clowns become afraid. Yeah, they make a move about. Yeah, that's right now. I'm not sure it's a coincidence either. So all kinds of screen memories. On that. Next sure quite what to think of it though. Yeah, it's it's like. They. Control your perception and they get you to see. Will they want you to say rather than just letting you see them as a gray? Which would be the the scary thing I suppose? Yup Yup I. do think that you know the great are the real appearance. I don't think the gray. itself is a screen memory. But they can't appears human looking. I gotTA Not Personally, but I've certainly read about it in the literature where people. Thought the person they were looking at was human, but it turned out not to be was gray. there was one case I wrote a book called schoolyard encounters. Wear, you hover over schools and sometimes land. There's. Got A hundred documented cases. Very bizarre phenomena where I think they're showing themselves on purpose. But there's one case where this lady's says. She was a schoolgirl our on the playground. This gray would come up and approacher, and it was had a sort of a screen memory of a little girl. She's finally saw through it because. Figure always looked strange would talk strange and. Talk About Mathematics Askar Weird questions and So yeah, I, do think they have the ability to pretty much appear, however they want. Don't write a case of a woman who was in the thirties, and she remembered playing with a girl when they were both about six years old, and she said they had a house at the end of the street, and she used to just go and play with her and a house and come home, and she mentioned it to a mom, and her mom said No. You never used to play with any goals of the house down the end of the street. They've was never a house at the end of the street. It's wasteland. On. She says she can remember many times going to that house and playing with that little girl, and it was such a bizarre thing. Wow. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about, but Hopkins had a case where. The lady thought stopped off at the local seven eleven convenience star. Turned out, it was an abduction. People thought they went to the circus, no or fun house. So, they can not only. Good screen memories of themselves, but.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on Hysteria 51

Hysteria 51

07:43 min | 1 year ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Hysteria 51

"No one. Of Our silence says it all. I really like I, really like William, Pollen. Yeah! All I love Bali. Great Guy because everybody is watching I'll say I love him to. Go Yep Z. I, really like. And she's doing really good William. That she's been a great job and William not only am my fan. I love that you quote yourself quoting yourself when you brief oh stuff. I WANNA. Be Able to do that. Sunday so that I like yeah of I offer a couple of names out there I. Think Frank Kimbler is a the Geo. Scientists doing amazing work on the Roswell incident still out there digging looking for which is awesome and finding stuff and look if you're looking for scientific method. That's all this guy does so and there's other Mufi field investigators. That's the other thing. Individual! Move on field investigators is one thing move fund as an organization does in other. Some incredible field investigators in every A. Like Mr Shane heard in. A. Shout out to Shane heard. WHO's one of our rogue planet tears over at Rogue Planet Yep Earl grains the assistant stage director of Arizona by the way. Early. Those two are the only ones come to mind right now for me, but you look at the work of Eric Luke. Some Chase Club ski I, mean these are people who've been doing this for years and kind of get. Pushed down by the more sensational cases go. Or for whatever reason get pushed down by people doing what they're doing. You know it's unfortunate. Yes sensational people who like to have their faces on t shirts. Yeah Yeah I'll. You can buy mine on T. public. Dot Com. Absolutely Yeah, the go to public. You can find a lot of our shirts over there. Grants Ryan's. There are over there. Go get them. You need them in your life right now and I. I think they're on sale right now. To Flash Sale. They are always are off. Thirty percent off so. Please just take assure just take a sure. WE'LL GIVE YOU A. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely so yeah William. He has another question. Why do some UFO researchers Darryl Sims comes to mind never published their investigative reports including parties involved. That is a fantastic question Ridicule I. Desire to not be ridiculed The reason that we pick apart everything I think a Lotta. Times, they want to. Protect the people that they've been through, but then again that is also setting everyone back because if there is great research being done, we have no way to compare to other signings defined trends to look through things like that, so it's a double edged sword to me at least. I think Rainy Day Fund is another phrase that comes to mind to I think a lot of researchers hold these cases so close to the chest, and they're just waiting for when they can you know. put it out there in what they can how they can benefit from that, which is kind of sad when you think about it, you know if if they haven't come out with something in a long time. Oh I'LL! I'll bring this out right now. so I think that's another struggle in the field is transparency and and sharing information you know whenever I find something I always go to Jason Rob, I it'd be like. Have you heard about this before? should I steer clear, or is this something? I should pursue See I. Think you know things like this. Doing panels in just like sharing information I think is really important and I feel like a lot of the I I don't ever WANNA put down the old guard because we learned everything from them, and are trying to build upon them, but they're more. They're more reticent to keep that that those cases in so Yeah, yeah, I that's kind. My two cents on. It I think the case is different for every body right? Everybody's an individual. They do different things for different reasons and Darryl Daryl's a sweetheart of a man I love the guy, but Yeah. I mean William makes a good point and his reasons for not publishing his work I. Don't know what they are so not speaking about him specifically, but others I can see in this field. You have a lot of. I guess I'll call them professional people, and then some not so professional people who have just picked up this topic and they're doing it and they do what they do the way they know how to do it, and they might not be in it for publicity, but even if they are, they might not think about. Publishing a paper, or or doing things a certain way. They're just doing what they do with their investigations in their own style than going around to different conventions and things and showing off what they've discovered and talking on TV shows, and you know the various routes, so people do things different ways and pretend to know the motives behind those, but I think the. The obvious with some people is that they know if they were to publish and try to get period. You would get ripped to shreds. Yeah, absolutely I think like when it comes to like the preeminent investigators, and some of the cases that they have worked on and I think the one that immediately comes to mind is Lyndon Napolitano's case like that case. I think ruined the credibility of Budd Hopkins for a lot of people just because of the way that he presented his information in the way that you know like no, no, there's twenty two witnesses. We don't know who the hell they are. They contact you anonymously through letter. In all this stuff. There's like some weird love triangle. That's happening here and like I've been I've been blasted for my critical opinions of Budd Hopkins I think he was a fantastic researcher. Don't get me wrong, but I think he went down the line of thinking that kind of like I soiled it. In a way but Yeah I- motives are A. Everybody's got a different motive in this case and We can't also like leave out the fact that sometimes money has to do with it so. The money, yeah, absolutely absolutely like Speaking of the you guys are not getting paid for this. Just so you know I am A. Winning interference. Go Leonard. Yeah different motivations I definitely think play a part in his testimony, said put this panel on a shirt and I think we should we should. Make it, the mortal combat shoes you're running. Back Absolutely. But I think this is where we're going to. We're going to wrap it for this I. Of the Blue Ribbon Panel, so Thank you all for coming on. This was this was Super Fun to do a lot of fun. Thanks for having us. Wrong. And so good absolutely. Gay Folks and Yeah, don't forget to look up. Your local UFOLOGISTS SUPPORTING Apology keep looking up. You never know what you'll find in our strange skies, and you never know what you'll find on your computer screen. Five guys get together and just talk about UFO's. Ray.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

10:31 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"And you know what? He we are Yuban where we've lost Budd Hopkins a great investigator in the alien abductions, Dr John Mack. I mean these two were the criminal chrome, aren't they? Absolutely. I had I had the opportunity to work with John math, but at Hopkins, of course, David Jacobs is now retired, but we all traveled together to different conferences throughout the United States in the nineties, and I have the opportunity to sit down with them. You know, the end of the day at the conference, you sit at they have a couple of drinks and you compare notes and here, I am the rookie, you know, and among these grades and I will ask, you know, have any of you have this in your case or that in your cases and, you know, drawings. And I just I was able to just compare notes with him. And of course, bud with my mentor. I sat in on if you of the regressions he did. That's how I was trained. Action work. So I feel very honored in your opinion. What is the alien abduction program? Well, I feel now that the hybridization program is very central to what they are doing. What they're would be alien agenda is central and key, the same phrase, I would guess, right? Yes, I, I really feel that at this point because men and women experience of the removal of spur removal of being shown babies being objected time and time, again, being shown their children at different stages of growth, and telling them that they need to bond with these children. So. With the ultimate goal is of for these hybrids, you know, I don't know, yet I feel though and I never could have said this twenty years ago that some of these hybrids are already here among us. You know, the Russians want to have a baby born in space. Somebody should tell them it's already been done been there done that probably zillion times. Exactly. Yeah. It's, you know, it's sounds so science fiction to people who you know, don't even look up as in. You didn't think about something strange flying around in our skies. But we're really past that now, George, we're past disease things exist through three theories one is that these aliens. Need hybrids for their own planet for whatever reason that something's happening on the planet, and they need to take these offspring there to help repopulate? So I've heard that too. I've heard that the they are trying to develop a program to take over planet earth with their own kind, the hybrids at any given moment. They are training them raising them and that they'll bring them here to replace us, and then three they care about us. But they figure that something could happen to the environment. We might not be able to sustain ourselves. Hence they bring in the hybrids to keep the planet going. So what do you think of those three I heard those as well? You know it could be all of the above George. I wish you had more of a definitive answer because I'm asked that all the time, I know that my colleague, David Jacobs of history is in when he wrote to this book ability to walk in among us bills that they are hybrids are being trained by some of the Duckie's to live among us, and that they will be they will. In a sense, take over. I mean I hate talk him like invasion of the body out. It's possible. It's possible, of course. And that's one scenario that I'm thinking, oh my gosh. I hope that doesn't happen. I mean, I feel that I know they need us, of course, they use for our material for DNA, and I so I feel they will live among us, maybe because they're afraid we can't sustain ourselves. They might be like becoming down here to help us you don't I don't know. But look look at what years and years and years, these alien beings, I've been telling Duckie's that we have to start taking care of our planet that we are destroying our planet. They're very as, you know, George, they're very worried about our nuclear weapons, and they should be. And they should be here. We are, you know, the dumb humans, you know, we don't know what we're doing. So it is. That's why I'm you know, I'm, I'm still plugging away here because I'm hoping that, you know, before I leave this earth that I will be able to give definitive answers about what the what their ultimate agenda is that all they know is, you know, my first goal is, of course, to help people realize that they have had experiences and how corporate image to their lives, the become to me because they have PTSD and that's my first goal is to help someone. We all we all have to live. We all have to pay bills, you know, life happens. But yet, you know, we've got this other life that, you know. We, we know exist, we have to live with it doesn't go away. People. Ask me all the time. Can you make it stop? You know, I wish I could it runs in a generational. That's probably going to be my next book about the family of the family connection. So it's very, very deep this entire experience. Yvonne Smith with us, and she will be our keynote speaker Tuesday at our luncheon series in Los Angeles. If some people come up to you, and they believe they are objected. Can you spend a little time with him Tuesday? Oh, absolutely. I, of course, I'd be happy to. I, I mean because it affects a lot of people most people don't know it until they've been hypnotized. I would assume that the case they know some things they know some bits and pieces of memory no one ever comes to me with just a complete blank mind says, you know, I wanna know if I was abducted the subconscious will bring out bring up bits and pieces of memory. They'll remember a strange something in the sky, they will remember that they were driving down the highway, and they can account for two or three hours or they're in their room reading that you're reading this very bright, light comes you'll flash into the through the window flooding, their entire bedroom than they can't move. I mean so these are some of the symptoms. And that's what bothers people can you imagine not knowing what happened for about two or three hours in your life? That's the most frightening part of all of this, and you well, and they know they're not sleeping. They were driving, you know, they're white lake driving. And then yet, it's there's you know, miles down the road. They don't remember how they got there. I have hundreds of cases like this. So that's why people come to me, believe it or not. They will come to me, twenty thirty years after the incident because they it haunts them they've been able to put it away for while on the back burner. But what, what brings them to me, many times, because their children are starting to talk about something strange something strange coming in their room and the children will start talking about that when they're about four or five years. Old. So then they realize I need I need to deal with my own experiences. So I could help my child, and, you know, I'll tell you it's, it's really difficult for parents to deal with that on, we have on this planet, hundreds of thousands of people who disappear every year. The poof just gone. David Politis rights, that a lot of people disappear in our park systems, they just poof. They're gone to do you think that some of these alien abductions are these cases where people merely are taken and not returned. Very possibly. I, I been wanting to he'll listen to David polite is in fact, I wanted to get his books that they're not on kindle a hard time reading print now I'm getting older. But you know, I know about as work. I've read about as work. And I, I truly feel that could be a possibility. And also when I've heard of somebody being in a certain area in the you don't apart and then they're miles away.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

News Radio 810 WGY

03:30 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

"And that through face to face telepathic communication between military and Intel people who have been able to take telepathic download from intelligence is not all people can do it. And from the abductees a picture is growing that says their technology moves point to point one physicists told me that he had read a very complex document in conjunction with collaboration with some non humans trying to explain what happens and says if we're in a thirteen point eight thirteen nine billion light year universe. They don't spend time. They don't spend you clinging. Geometry time, they have the ability to move point to point by being able to manipulate magnetic fields. When you know what you're doing? If you are Zeta ridiculous. I wanted to and you want to move forty light years to earth, you go out of this universe matter dimension to another dimension that will like cushion shot in a pool table. It'll put you back if you know, how to calculate the math at earth and so. In all of this from the idea of dimensions, multiple timelines, multiple universes. The bigger bucks at all of this pushes you to and why I've never ever been able to leave trying to understand this. If the universe. Some physicists today are beginning to hypothesize is actually a hologram and one of Budd Hopkins objection people wrote a big book called the holographic universe. Michael talbot. And said the entire book was download from the ET's trying to explain this universe. West made was constructed for a purpose. And that if that were true, you cannot have a hologram projected within the universe. You have to have the holographic universe projected from another dimension outside of this universe. How big George how big is the box of all of these many facets to sixteen layer chess game. And ultimately, what is the creator the divine field of everything behind it? I cannot imagine spending my life on anything more exciting. And fascinating in trying to understand who we are through all of these layers that take us out to not only this universe. But other universes. And that seems to me to be the true reality of the landscape that we've been trying to understand and all of the phenomena of the century. They with you on that score. Even though the the big box is too big for my pointy little head to get to understand. I'm with you on the pursuit of let's take a caller to real quick first time caller, Stephen in Nevada hasty of in your own with Linda Moulton now. Hi, george..

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

15:10 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"Late Budd Hopkins. Classic UFO researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins for a couple hours years a world renowned author you're for obstruction researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversial obstruction of human beings by UFO occupants, bud as worked with more than one thousand people were reported abduction experiences. Over the past. Twenty years is goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon and he reassigned coast-to-coast back again Budd Hopkins spot. Good morning. Good morning to you, George. Good to talk with your great work, by the way. This one was different. It had. This has all of Budd Hopkins it with art life and your foes, right? It's a memoir. It's. I decided finally having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So Budd Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly interesting childhood. I did not know that you were a victim Apoyo. Yup. That was one of the that's something to started me off. I according to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I she was getting me out of bed one morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg and embrace her year and a half or so and didn't walk side to learn how to walk again. And so it's a long complicated story. But I think it's it's sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world Myron playmates so to speak my own. Ways. Amusing myself, my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist he finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you the truth. I don't know I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which have atrophied terribly and. The main thing is George when I got that. It was two and a half and have very few memories of it. And I struggled with just for. A year and a half or two years. And I don't really remember the stages of repair that that took place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that happen? Well, essentially when I was always drawing and making things and and painting and so on as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I went to college, and though it's hard to believe I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of Picasso Matisse in somewhat Van Gogh. And when I. Took an artistic class at Oberlin college. Just because I thought it was going to be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark you can go to sleep if you want to and they show slides. It's very nice look at so three that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzle beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started a mmediately sketching all the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in -mongst, my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book, I saw some of the little sketches made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was. To those college years, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was starting and that's essentially the best known name is Jackson Pollock absolutely. Kooning Mark Rothko FRANZ Kline. And so on. And Robert Motherwell had come to Berlin. He was one of the major painters in that group and had shown slides of their work. And all I knew is. I wanted to get the hell out of old and get the hell out wheeling which is where the talent I was born and get to New York, and I did and I got there. The amazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few of any money at all even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in but Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon specifically abductions how did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I George is that I had absolutely no interest in UFO's our knowledge of it. There's nothing it wasn't on my radar so to speak and. The fighting that just mentioned the minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to her later many years later by do you? Remember, those years that we were married before this happened for he had decided you remember anybody ever mentioning your foes to us or us ever talking about or even coming up. But she said absolutely not it just it was remoteness. I dunno talking about Estonia or something it just wasn't there. But on Cape Cod where I had that for the a little summer studio. My wife, and I in a house gas driving to providence down for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of us. Very simple in outline. It was. Shape. Another classic. You know, two saucers together. No details. No lights. Wings are anything. And we as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But was very interesting. How small clouds are passed over it and hide it for moment. And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it and silhouetted. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we were speculating as to what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it. And this is about three minutes fighting all know, we're looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sorta shut off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped down and watch this thing fly fly way into cloud Bank. And that's when one of us said, you're suppose, that's one of those flying saucers you hear about we remains totally in from that point on. Did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to the party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I known for years said. Yeah, you know, I saw thing like that years ago. It was right above the trees had these windows and someone who. I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real Saddam was at hand. And I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did your first alien abduction case occur? Well, first of all my side, he was sixty four and at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abduction Saddam in the public domain the bedding body. Okay. Came to light two years later. And I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. You know, I had no reason to valid, and it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact that seemed totally believable. And these people seem to be totally credible. And. So I began to think maybe there's something to this. But they were very very few abduction cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was. Actually, a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four and has the site in nineteen seventy five when I started my actually looking into cases eleven years later. It was only then that I began to get reports or people are describing an object that was above the car, but then somebody was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. Then case after case like that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware at this born from the hill case and pasta, and so on that's just missing time element was serious, and I kind of education possible abduction in nineteen seventy one twenty one year old reporter, I interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was. Pasta. And he of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with who dealt with sales. And I I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happen? Well, that's. That's only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Beca abduction cases people who we thought. It'd have these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists. And so on who were friends of mine actually collect in my heart. There's came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sections. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all of this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long. Of apprenticeships so to speak. I sat through I don't know how many sessions and watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these psychiatrists psychologists sitting in my sessions to give me some help and so forth. Did this you Afo citing have an effect on your artwork? Well, as a matter of fact, it did. And and I sort of resisted the idea as I say in my in my memoir, because it's it's going into all the complex interlocking of of my life as an artist in my life, your fellow researcher that I mentioned that no artist likes to really admit that he or she has been influenced by other people or other or other situations. Even though we all know we in for all the time. You get a new studio and a higher ceiling that imports shirt. So I am. Realized that after I had that citing my paintings began to have a sort of hierarchical quality, whether it was a large circular form, which seemed to kind of dominate the rest of the forums. And the painting the paintings before had been had made. Consisted of really a lot of very forceful elements. Sort of bang each other around inside the canvas. And now suddenly things got much calmer and the circle seemed to dominate and there were many different versions for the circle. And I painted twenty years where the paintings where the circle was present as the central image. And interestingly, my a friend in collector mine. The German actor and director Maximilian Schell at bought pennies from mine, and he told me that I should go see two thousand and one the famous movie because he felt there was some connection between that and my paintings. I said I said that was that was the dimension. But I think he was right. So I do think that that also one thing after you delve into the abduction phenomenon you're seeing so much kind of psychic pain and confusion, and so forth and people who've gone through these experiences that in a way perhaps by paintings got calmer because I needed calmness in my life. So there was that kind of element playing in the paintings look. You know, you have had a such an incredible affect on so many people these listeners to this program and also David Jacobs the late John Mack as well. Let's talk about David Jacobs for a moment who doesn't believe that the story of the UFO's and visitations are friendly by any means tell me about that relationship. Well, the basic thing with David who's an extremely close friend and at an absolutely terrific researcher, the way he looks at things he he follows in a certain sense of kind of not exactly a paper trail, but he follows the trail which would suggest that the whole alien. Well, central program of creating genetic mix of humans and aliens. Which is something that I stumbled into in the middle eighties..

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

15:08 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Classic your four researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins for a couple of hours years a world renowned author you'll for researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversial objection of human beings by you occupants, bud as worked with more than one thousand people were reported, obstruction experiences over the past. Twenty years is goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon and he reassigned coast-to-coast back again but Hopkins spot good morning or good morning to you, George. Good to talk with your great work, by the way. This one was different. It had this has all of Budd Hopkins Senate with art life in UFO's, right? It's a memoir I decided. And finally having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So but Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly interesting childhood. I did not know that you were victim of polio. Yep. That was one of the that's something that started me off. I. According to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I she was getting me out of bed. One morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg and embrace for year and a half or salad didn't walk. So I had to learn how to walk again, and so long complicated story. But I think it's it sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world. Myron playmate, so to speak, my own ways of music, myself and my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist he bought you finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you the truth. I don't know I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which have atrophied terribly and. The main thing is George when I got that. It was two and a half and have very few memories of it. And I struggled with just for a year and a half or two years, and I don't really remember the stages of repair that that place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that happen? Well, essentially, when I I was always drawing and making things in and painting, and so as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I. What college and though it's hard to believe. I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of Picasso Matisse and so forth Van Gogh. And when I. Took an art history class at Oberlin college. Just because I thought it was going to be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark, you can go to sleep if you want to when they show slides, so it's very nice to look at so three that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzled beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started a mmediately sketching all the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in amongst my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book of some of the little sketches made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was. Through those colleges, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was started. And that's essentially best known name is Jackson Pollock absolutely. Won't be Kooning Mark Rothko FRANZ Kline and so on and Robert Motherwell had come to Oberlin. He was one of the major painters in that group and had shown slides of their work. And all I knew is. I wanted to get the hell out of Oberlin get the hell out wheeling which is where the town. I was born and get to New York, and I did, and I got through the mazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few men any money at all even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in Budd Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon. Specifically abductions how did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I George is that I had absolutely no interest in your foes, our knowledge out that there's nothing it wasn't on my radar so to speak and. I the fighting that just. I'll mention the minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to Relator many years later by do you? Remember, those years that we were married before this happened for you decided you remember anybody ever mentioning you foes to us or us ever talking about or even coming up, and she said absolutely not just it was as remote as. I don't know talking about Estonia or something it just wasn't there. But I'm Cape Cod. Where I had that for the a little summer studio. My wife, and I and the houseguests were driving to a province down for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of us. Very simple in outline. It was. Len shape, another classic. You know, two saucers together. No details. No lights, no wings are anything. And as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But it was very interesting. How small clouds pass over it and hide it for moment? And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it in silhouette. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air there, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we respect your where you're going to see what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it. This is about three minutes fighting all looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sort of shot off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped down and watch this thing. Fly fly way into cloud Bank. And that's when one of you suppose, that's one of those flying losses. You hear about we remains totally in from that point on. Did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to the party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I known for years said. Yeah, you know, I saw a thing like that years ago. I it was right? Above the trees and had these windows and filling it I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real phenomenon was that hands. And I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did you first alien abduction case occur? Well, first of all my side, he was sixty four and at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abduction phenomenon in the public domain the bedding body. Go cash came to light two years later. And I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. You know, I had no reason to doubt. And it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact that seemed totally believable. And these people seem to be totally credible. And. So I began to think maybe there's something to this. But there were very very few abduction cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was actually a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four when the has the citing in nineteen seventy five when I started my actually looking into cases eleven years later. It was only then that. I began to get reports are people are describing an object that was above the car, but then some was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. And case after case like that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware at this born from the hill case and pasta rule, and so on that's just missing time element was serious. And I kind of indication of possible abduction in nineteen seventy one twenty one year old reporter, I interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was Boston. He of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with we dealt with sales. And I I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happ? Well, that's. That's the only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Becker abduction cases people who we saw had had these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists. And so on who were friends of mine, actually collectors in my art. Came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sessions. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all of this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long. Of apprenticeships so to speak. I will have through. I don't know how many sessions and from watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these psychiatrists psychologists sitting at a my sessions to give me some help and so forth. But did this you Afo citing have an effect on your artwork? Well, as a matter of fact, it did. And and I. Sort of resisted the idea as I say in my in my memoir, because it's it's going into all the complex interlocking of of my life as an artist in my life, your fellow researcher that I mentioned that no artist likes to really admit that he or she has been influenced by other people are out there. Our other situations. Even though we all know, we are influenced all the time. You get a new studio and higher ceiling that influences shirt. So I am. Realized that after. I had that citing my paintings began to have a sort of hierarchical quality. Whether there was a large circular form, what seemed to kind of dominate the rest of the forms in the painting, the things before had been had made consisted of really a lot of very forceful elements. Sort of banging each other around inside the canvas. And now suddenly things got much calmer and the circle seem to dominate and there were many different versions of the circle. And I painted twenty years where the paintings where the circle was present as central image. And interestingly, my a friend in collector mind. The German actor and director Maximilian Schell at bought some penny of mine, and he told me that I should go see two thousand and one the famous movie because he felt there was some connection between that and my paintings. I said I said that was ridiculous. It was different. Dimension. But I think he was right. So I do think that that. I also one thing after you delve into the abduction phenomenon you're seeing so much kind of psychic pain and confusion and so forth. People who've gone through these experiences that in a way perhaps by paintings got calmer because I needed calmness in my life. So there was that kind of element kind of playing with paintings look. You know, but you have had such an incredible effect on so many people these listeners to this program and also David Jacobs the late John Mack as well. Let's talk about David Jacobs for moment who doesn't believe that the story of you of hose and visitations are friendly by any means tell me about that relationship. Well, the basic thing with. David who's an extremely close friend and at an absolutely terrific researcher. The way he looks at things he he follows in a certain sense of kind of not exactly a paper trail, but he follows the trail which would suggest that the whole alien. Well, central program of creating a genetic mix of humans and aliens. Which is something that I stumbled into in the middle eighties..

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

15:10 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"You with the late Budd Hopkins. Classic UFO researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins were couple hours is a world renowned author you for researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversial obstruction of human beings by UFO occupants, bud as worked with more than one thousand people who've reported obstruction experiences over the past twenty years is goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon. He reassigned coast-to-coast back again Budd Hopkins. Bod good morning. Good morning to you, George. Good to talk with great work, by the way. This one was different. It had this has all of Budd Hopkins Senate with art life and your foes, right? It's a memoir. It's I decided finally having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So but Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly interesting childhood. I did not know that you were victim of polio. Yup. That was one of the that's something that started me off. I. Yeah. According to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I she's been getting me out of bed one morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg and embrace her year and a half or so and didn't walk. So I had to learn how to walk again. And so that's a long complicated story. But I think it's it. That sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world Myron playmates, so to speak my own ways of music, myself, my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist you finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you through I don't know, I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which atrophied terribly and. The main thing is judge when I got that it was two and a half and have very few memories of it. And I struggled with I guess for. A year and a half or two years. And I don't really remember the stages of repair that that took place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that all happen? Well, essentially when I was always drawing and making things and and painting and so on as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I went to college, and though it's hard to believe I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of Picasso Matisse and so forth Van Gogh. And when I. Took an artistic class at Oberlin college. Just because I thought it was going to be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark you can go to sleep. If you want to show slides, it's very nice to look at. So that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzle beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started immediately sketching all the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in amongst my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book some of the little sketches made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was to those college years, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was started. And that's essentially the best known name is Jackson Pollock. Absolutely. Kooning Mark Rothko FRANZ Kline. And so on. And Robert Motherwell had come to Oberlin. He was one of the major painters in that group and had shown slice of their work. And all I knew is. I wanted to get the hell out of old and get the hell out wheeling which is where the town. I was born and get to New York, and I did. But I got there. The amazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few of them had any money at all. Even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in Budd Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon. Specifically abductions how did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I Joyce is that I had absolutely no interest in your foes knowledge out that there's nothing it wasn't on my radar so to speak, and I. Citing that just mentioned a minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to her later many years later by do you? Remember, those years that we were married before this happened for we had decided you remember anybody ever mentioning UFO's to us or us ever talking about or even coming up, and she said absolutely not it just it was remote as I dunno talking about Estonia or something it just wasn't there. But I'm Cape Cod. Where I had that more the a little summer studio. My wife, and I and a house gas were driving to province down for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of us. Very simple in outline. It was. Landscape and another classic, you know to sauces together. No details. No lights. Wings are anything. And we as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But it was very interesting. How small clouds pass over it and hide it for moment? And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it in silhouette. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air there, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we were speculating as to what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it is this is about three minutes fighting all looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sort of shot off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped out and watch this thing fly fly way into cloud Bank. And that's when one of us said, you suppose, that's one of those flying saucers you hear about we were amazed totally in from that point on. Did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I known for years said. Yeah, you know, I saw thing like that years ago. I it was right above the trees had these windows and so on and so forth. And I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real Salama was that hands. And I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did your first alien abduction case occur? Well, first of all, my son, he was sixty four and at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abduction phenomena in the public domain, the bedding body heal case came to light two years later, and I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. You know, had no reason to valid, and it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact that it seemed totally believable, and these people seem to be totally credible. And so I began to think maybe there's something to this. But there were very very few cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was actually a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four and it has the in nineteen seventy five when I started my actually looking into cases, it's eleven years later. It was only then that. I began to get reports or people are describing an object that was above the car, but then suddenly was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. And case after case like that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware of this born from the hill case and pasta, and so on that's just missing time element was serious. And I kind of education possible deduction in nineteen seventy one twenty one year old reporter interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was. Pasta. He of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with we dealt with sales. And I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happen? Well, that's. That's only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Becker abduction cases people who we thought had had these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists and so on who were friends of mine actually collect in my art came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sections. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long period of apprenticeship so to speak. I sat through I don't know how many factions and watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these psychiatrist psychologist sitting in my sessions to give me pointers and help and so forth. But did this UFO citing? Have an effect on your artwork? Well, as a matter of fact, it did. And and I. Sort of resisted the idea as I say in my in my memoir, because it's it's going into all the complex interlocking of of my life as an artist in my life, your fellow researcher that I mentioned that no artist likes to really admit that he or she has been influenced by other people are out there. Else other situations. Even though we all know, we are influenced that all the time. You get a new studio and a higher ceiling that influences. So I. Realized that after I had that citing my paintings began to have sort of hierarchical quality, whether it was a large circular form, what seemed to kind of dominate the rest of the forms, and the painting the paintings before had been had made consisted of really a lot of very forceful elements. Sort of banging each other around inside the canvas. And now suddenly things got much calmer and the circle seemed to dominate and there were many different versions of the circle. And I painted twenty years where the paintings where the circle was present as the central image. And interestingly, my a friend in collector mine. The German actor and director Maximilian Schell at bought some paintings of mine, and he told me that I should go see two thousand and one the famous movie because he felt there was some connection between that and my paintings. I said I said that was that was no dimension. But I think he was right. So I do think that that also one thing after you delve into the abduction phenomenon you're seeing so much kind of psychic pain and confusion and so forth. People who've gone through these experiences that in a way perhaps by paintings got calmer because I needed calmness in my life. So there was that kind of element playing with paintings looked. But you have had such an incredible affect on. So many people these listeners to this program and also David Jacobs the late John Mack as well. Let's talk about David Jacobs for a moment who doesn't believe that the story of you of hose and visitations are friendly by any means tell me about that relationship. Well. The basic thing with David who's an extremely close friend and at an absolutely terrific researcher, the way he looks at things he he follows in a certain sense of kind of not exactly a paper trail, but he follows the trail which would suggest that the whole alien. Well, central program of creating genetic mix of humans and aliens, which is something that I stumbled into the middle eighties..

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15:10 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on WTVN

"For you with the late Budd Hopkins. Classic UFO researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins for a couple of hours years a world renowned author you'll for researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversial abduction of human beings by UFO occupants, bud as worked with more than one thousand people who have reported abduction experiences over the past. Twenty years is goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon and he reassigned coast-to-coast back again but Hopkins spot good morning. Good morning to you, George. Good to talk with you. Great work by the this one was different. It had. This has all of Budd Hopkins in it with art life in UFO's. Right. It's a memoir. It's I decided. Finally, having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So but Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly interesting childhood. I did not know that you are a victim of polio. Yup. That was one of the that's something to started me off. I. According to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I. She was getting me out of bed. One morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg and for a year and a half or so and didn't walk. So I had to learn how to walk again, so long complicated story. But I think it's it's sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world. Myron playmate, so to speak, my own ways of music, myself my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist he finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you the truth. I don't know I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which have atrophied terribly and. The main thing is George when I got that. It was two and a half and have very few memories of it. And I struggled with I just for a year and a half or two years, and I don't really remember the stages of repair that that place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that all happen? Well, essentially when I was always drawing and making things in and painting and so on as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I went to college, and though it's hard to believe I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of Cosso and Makishi and so forth Van Gogh. And when I took an art history class at Oberlin college, just because I thought it was going to be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark you can go to sleep. If you want to show slides, it's very nice to look at. So that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzle beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started immediately sketching. All the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in amongst my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book of some of the little sketches made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was. Through those college years, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was started. And that's essentially the best known name is Jackson Pollock. Absolutely. Kooning Mark Rothko FRANZ Kline. And so on. And Robert Motherwell had come to Oberlin. He was one of the major painters in that group and had shown slice of their work. And all I knew I wanted to get the hell out of Oberlin get the hell out wheeling which is where the talent was born and get to New York, and I did. And I got through the amazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few of any money at all. Even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in Budd Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon specifically objections. How did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I George is that I had absolutely no interest in you Foser knowledge out that there's nothing it wasn't on my radar so to speak and. The fighting that just mentioned a minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to Relator many years later by do you? Remember, those years that we were married before this happened for we had cited you remember anybody ever mentioned you photos to us or us ever talking about even coming up. But she said absolutely not it just it was remote is talking about Estonia or something it just wasn't there. But on Cape Cod. Right. Had that of the little summer studio. My wife, and I have houseguests driving to a province down for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of us. Very simple in outline. It was. Shape. Another classic. You know, two saucers together. No details. No lights, no wings are anything. And we as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But it was very interesting. How small clouds are tasks over it and hide it for moment. And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it in silhouette. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we were speculating against what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it. This is about three minutes, citing all know, looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sort of shot off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped down and watch this thing fly fly way into a cloud Bank. And that's when one of us said, you're suppose, that's one of those flying losses. You hear about we remains totally. And from that point on did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to the party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I known for years said. Yeah, you know, I saw thing like that years ago. I it was right above the trees and had these windows and so on and so forth. I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real Saddam was at hand. And I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did your first alien abduction case occur? Well, first of all my side, he was sixty four and at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abduction Saddam in the public domain, the bedding body heal case came to light two years later, and I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. You know, I had no reason to Dallas. And it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact is it seemed totally believable. And these people seem to be totally credible. And. So I began to think maybe there's something to this. But there were very very few abduction cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was actually a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four and has decided in nineteen seventy five when I started my actually looking into cases eleven years later. It was only then that I began to get reports are people are describing an object that was above the car, but then somebody was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. And case after case like that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware at this born from the hill case and pasta, and so on that's just missing time element was serious and. I kind of education possible abduction in nineteen seventy one twenty one year old reporter, I interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was Rostom. He of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with we dealt with sales. And I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happen? Well, that's. That's only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Abductor abduction cases people who we saw it had these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists and so on who were friends of mine actually collectors in my art came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sessions. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all of this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long period of of apprenticeship so to speak ah fat through I don't know how many sessions and watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these psychiatrists psychologists sitting in my sessions to give me some help and so forth. But did this you of citing have an effect on your artwork? Well, as a matter of fact, it did. And and I. Sort of resisted the idea as I say in my in my memoir, because it's it's going into all the complex interlocking of of my life as an artist in my life says your fellow researcher that I mentioned that no artist likes to really admit that he or she has been influenced by other people are out there. L other situations. Even though we all know, we are influenced that all the time. You get a new studio and higher ceiling that influences. So I am. I realized that after I had that citing my paintings began to have sort of hierarchical quality, whether it was a large circular form, which seemed to kind of dominate the rest of the forms and the painting the Phoenix before had been had made. Consisted of really a lot of very forceful elements. Sort of banging each other around inside the canvas. And now suddenly things got much calmer and the circle seemed to dominate and there were many different versions of the circle. And I painted twenty years where the paintings were the circle was present as the central image. And interestingly, my a friend in collector mine. The German actor and director Maximilian Schell at bought some paintings and mine, and he told me that I should go see two thousand and one the famous movie because he felt there was some connection between that and my paintings. I said I said that was ridiculous. Dimension. But I think he was right. So I do think that that also one thing after you delve into the abduction phenomenon you're seeing so much kind of a psychic pain and confusion, and so forth and people have gone through these experiences that in a way perhaps by paintings got calmer because I needed calmness in my life. So there was that kind of element kind of playing with paintings lucked. You have had such an incredible effect on so many people these listeners to this program and also David Jacobs the late John Mack as well. Let's talk about David Jacobs for a moment who doesn't believe that the story of UFO's and visitations are friendly by any means tell me about that relationship. Well, the basic thing with David who's an extremely close friend and at an absolutely terrific researcher, the way he looks at things he he follows in a certain sense of kind of not exactly a paper trail, but he follows the trail which would suggest that the whole alien. Well, central program of creating genetic mix of humans and aliens. Which is something that I stumbled into in the middle ages..

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15:11 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"You with the late Budd Hopkins. Classic UFO researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins for a couple hours years a world renowned author you for obstruction researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversial abduction of human beings by UFO occupants, bud as worked with more than one thousand people were reported abduction experiences. Over the past. Twenty years is goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon. And he is coast coast-to-coast back again Budd Hopkins spot. Good morning or good morning to you, George to talk with your great work, by the way. This one was different. It had. This has all of bud. Hopkinson it with art life in UFO's. Right. It's a memoir. It's I decided. And finally having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So but Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly interesting childhood. I did not know that you are a victim of polio. Yup. That was one of the that's something to started me off. I. According to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I. Getting me out of bed. One morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg brace for a year and a half or salad didn't walk. So I had to learn how to walk again. And so it's a long complicated story. But I think it's it's sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world Myron playmates, so to speak, my own ways of music, myself and my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist he finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you the truth. I don't know I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which have atrophied terribly and. The main thing is judge when I got there was two and a half and had very few memories of it. And I struggled with just for a year and a half or two years, and I don't really remember the stages of repair that that took place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that all happen? Well, essentially when I was always drawing and making things in and painting and so on as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I went to college, and though it's hard to believe I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of Picasso Matisse and so forth Van Gogh. And when I took an art history class at Oberlin college, just because I thought it was gonna be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark, you can go to sleep if you want to and they show slides it's very nice to look at. So that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzle beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started a immediately sketchy. All the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in amongst my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book of some of the little sketches made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was. Through those colleges, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was started. And that's essentially the best known name is Jackson Pollock. Absolutely. Kooning Mark Rothko FRANZ Kline. And so on. And Robert Motherwell had come to Oberlin. He was one of the major painters in that group and had shown flies of their work. And all I knew I wanted to get the hell out of Oberlin get the hell out wheeling which is where the talent I was born and get to New York, and I did and I got there. The amazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few of any money at all even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in Budd Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon specifically abductions how did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I George is that I had absolutely no interest in UFO's our knowledge out that there's nothing it wasn't on my radar so to speak and. I the fighting that just mentioned a minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to Relator many years later by do you? Remember, those years, we were married before this happened for he had cited you remember anybody ever mentioning UFO's to us or us ever talking about her coming up, and she said absolutely not it just it was remote is. I don't know talking about Estonia or something it just wasn't there. But I'm Cape Cod. Where I had that the a little summer studio. My wife, and I had a house gas for driving to a province town for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of us. Very simple in outline. It was. Lens shape. Another classic. You know, two saucers together. No details. No lights. Oh wings are anything. And we as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But it was very interesting. How small clouds with pass over it and hide it for moment? And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it in silhouette. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we were speculating as to what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it is this is about three minutes fighting all looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sort of shot off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped down and watch this thing fly fly way into cloud Bank. And that's when one of us said, you suppose, that's one of those flying saucers used to about we remained totally in from that point on. Did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched the anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to the party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I known for years said. Yeah, you know, I saw thing like that years ago. I it was right above the trees and had these windows and some of the stuff with it. I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real phenomenon was at hand. And I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did you first alien abduction case occur? Well, you see first of all my side. He was sixty four. And at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abduction in the public domain, the bedding body heal case came to light two years later, and I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. You know, had no reason to doubt. And it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact that it seemed totally believable, and these people seem to be totally credible. And so I began to think maybe there's something to this. But there were very very few abduction cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was. Actually, a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four and has decided in nineteen seventy five when I started my actually looking into cases, it's eleven years later. It was only then that I began to get reports are people are describing an object that was above the car, but then somebody was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. And case after case like that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware of this born from the hill case and pasta, and so on that's just missing time element was serious. And I kind of indication of possible abduction in nineteen seventy one one year old reporter, I interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was Boston. He of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with who dealt with sales. And I I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happen? Well, that's. That's only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Beca objection cases people who we thought had these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists. And so on. We're friends of mine actually collect in my art came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sessions. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all of this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long period of of apprenticeships so to speak, and I will chat through I don't know how many sessions and watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these psychiatrists psychologists sitting in my sessions to give me some help and so forth. But did this you post citing have an effect on your artwork? Well, as a matter of fact, it did and and I sort of resisted the idea as I. In my in my memoir, because it's it's going into all the complex interlocking of of my life as an artist in my life, says your phone researcher that I mentioned that no artist likes to really admit that he or she has been influenced by other people are out there. L of other situations. Even though we all know, we are influenced that all the time. You get a new studio and higher ceiling that influences shirt. So I am. Realized that after I had that citing my paintings began to have a sort of hierarchical quality, whether it was a large circular form, which seemed to kind of dominate the rest of the forms. And the painting the Phoenix before had been had made a consisted. I've really a lot of very forceful elements. Sort of banging each other around inside the canvas. And now suddenly things got much calmer, and the circle seemed to dominate and there were many different version for the circle. And I painted twenty years where the paintings were the circle was present as the central image. And interestingly, my a friend in collector mine. The German actor and director Maximilian Schell at Bautzen pennies, some mine, and he told me that I should go see two thousand and one the famous movie because he felt there was some connection between that and my paintings. I said I said that was. Dimension. But I think he was right. So I do think that that also one thing after you delve into the abduction phenomenon you're seeing so much kind of psychic pain and confusion and so forth. People have gone through these experiences that in a way perhaps by paintings got calmer because I needed calmness in my life. So there was that kind of element kind of playing with paintings looked. You know, but you have had such an incredible affect on. So many people these listeners to this program and also David Jacobs the late John Mack as well. Let's talk about David Jacobs for moment who doesn't believe that the story of the UFO's visitations are friendly by any means tell me about that relationship. Well, the basic thing with. David who is an extremely close friend and at an absolutely terrific researcher. The way he looks at things he he follows in a certain sense of kind of not exactly a paper trail, but he follows the trail which would suggest that the whole alien. Well, central program of creating genetic mix of humans and aliens. Which is something that I stumbled into in the middle eighties..

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11:28 min | 2 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on KTRH

"With the late Budd Hopkins. Classic UFO researcher talking about his memories of growing up becoming one of the greatest the UFO field. We've got but Hopkins were a couple of hours is a world renowned author. You're for obstruction researcher, but is investigated more than seven hundred cases continuing to lead investigations into the very controversal abduction of human beings by occupants bud as worked with more than one thousand people who have reported abduction experiences over the past twenty years. His goal has always been to bring an objective dispassionate scientific intelligent work on the UFO abduction phenomenon. And he is coast to coast back again Budd Hopkins broad good morning. Good morning to you, George. Good to talk with your great work, by the way. This one was different. It had. This has all of Budd Hopkins it with art life in UFO's. Right. It's a memoir. It's I decided. And finally having reached the ripe old age. I might as well sit down and try to put it all together. So but Hopkins had an interesting life, but truly an interesting childhood. I did not know that you were victim of polio. Yep. That was one of the that's something to started me off. I. According to my mother's memory. I don't remember this. I. She was getting me out of bed. One morning when I was about two or two and a half and toppled over 'cause I couldn't stand up, and this is of course at a time. When polio was was just a terrible terrible. Kind of cloud hanging over anyone with small children. And I was my my leg and embrace for your and a half or so and didn't walk. So I had to learn how to walk again, and so long complicated story. But I think it's it's sort of turned me into my own having to create my own world my own playmates, so to speak my own ways. Amusing myself, my own creativity. And I think it really is behind the fact that I became an artist he bought you finally beat polio. How does that happen? Well to tell you the truth. I don't know I it with many other people to it sort of eases off, and then what has to go through a lot of physical therapy to strengthen the muscles, which atrophied terribly and. The main thing is Georgia. When I got there was two and a half and have very few memories of it. And I struggled with I just for. A year and a half years, and I don't really remember the stages of repair that place. And later on you become a renown, and you still are abstract expressionist painter. How does that happen? Well, essentially when I was always drawing and making things in and. Painting. And so on as a child it was a hobby. I didn't know anything about art classical art, and I went to college, and though it's hard to believe I was something like nineteen before. I heard the name of the Cosso and Matisse and so forth Van Gogh. And when I took an art history class at Oberlin college, just because I thought it was gonna be an easy class. Somebody said you just sit in the dark, you can go to sleep if you want to and they show slides it's very nice to look at. So I thought that's an easy one. And I went in there, and I was just dazzle beyond belief by whatever seeing and I started a immediately sketching all the pictures that were being shown on the screen as quickly as I could in amongst my notes, I reproduced actually one page of that in my book of some of the little. Sketches that I made over and over again. And then I started getting extremely serious about my own art, and that was. To those colleges, and I just wanted to come to New York right away because the whole abstract expressionist movement was started. And that's essentially the best known name is Jackson Pollock, absolutely. Kooning Mark Rothko founds Klein and so on. And Robert Motherwell had come to Oberlin. Reform the major painters in that group and had shown flies of their work. And all I knew I wanted to get the hell out of Oberlin that the hell out wheeling which is where the talent was born and get to New York, and I did, and I got through the amazing thing was was that all of these painters who I was getting so excited about were extremely approachable and very few them any money at all even though many of them were very well known. Then all of a sudden something happens in Budd Hopkins begins to become interested in the UFO phenomenon specifically objections. How did that happen? Well, the interesting thing, I George is that I had absolutely no interest in UFO's or knowledge that there's nothing. It wasn't on my radar so to speak and. The fighting that just mentioned the minute that I had with my first wife, I talked to her later many years later by do you? Remember, those years that we remarried before this happened for you decided you remember anybody ever mentioning you post to us or us ever talking about her coming up, and she said absolutely not just it was remotest. Talking about Estonia or something. It just wasn't there. But on Cape Cod where I had that for the. A little summer studio. My wife, and I and houseguests for driving to a province down for a cocktail party afternoon. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves staring up at this thing ahead of this very simple in outline was lens shape. Another classic. You know, two saucers together. No details. No lights. Oh wings are anything. And we as we watch it might have been moving slightly. But it was very interesting. How small clouds are pass over it? And hide it for moment. And then pass by and then clouds will go behind it in silhouette. So you could say that's a solid object up in the air, and it had this sort of Donald Lumine surface. And we were speculating what this was and as we got down to lower ground, and we're looking up at it. This is about three minutes fighting all. Looking at it from a steeper angle in this circular from underneath. And suddenly this thing just sort of shot off. Directly into the wind. And I hit the brakes, and we jumped down and watch this thing. Fly flyway into cloud Bank. And that's when one of us said, you're suppose, that's one of those flying saucers used ear about we remain as totally and from that point on. Did you begin to study this at that point on I read everything I could I watched anything on television. I became just fascinated because when we went to the party we were going to and we told people about it several people who I knew I'd known for years said, well, you know, I saw thing like that years ago. I it was right above the trees and windows and someone that I'm thinking what is this? I mean is this going on? Wildly around the country. And so I realized that some real Saddam was that hand and I wanted to find out what it was. Who became or how did your first alien abduction case occur? Well, first of all my side, he was sixty four and at that point. There was almost nothing known about the abductions public domain, the bedding body heal case came to light two years later, and I thought it was ridiculous. Because you can't believe a crazy story like that. I have no reason to doubt. And it took me a couple of years to kind of come to terms with the fact because it seemed totally believable. And these people seem to be totally credible. And. So I began to think maybe there's something to this. But there were very very few abduction cases being reported. And the first thing that I stumbled into was. Actually, a number of years later because I wasn't doing any investigations or anything like that between nineteen sixty four and has decided in nineteen seventy five when I started actually looking into cases eleven years later. It was only then that. I began to get reports are people are describing an object that was above the car, but then somebody was gone disappeared. And we got home two hours late, and we're upset about it. And case after case life that came to light and I began to look into them. And I was aware of this born from the hill case and pasta and so on that's just missing time. Element was serious and kind of education possible objection in nineteen seventy one Twenty-one year-old. Reporter I interviewed Dr Benjamin Simon of the time. He was pasta. He of course, was a psychiatrist who dealt with. And I I was just hooked, bud. You know, it kept steering me in this direction as well. As it's interesting, how that case has affected so many people in in in your particular case to you begin to continue to study and study and study. You begin to learn hypnosis? How did that happen? Well, that's. That's only didn't happen for for another number of years because I was taking. Abductor abduction cases people who we thought it had these experiences. Two different psychologists and psychiatrists. And so on who were friends of mine, actually, collectors, some my heart. L came about and they were doing that hypnosis, and I was sitting in on all of these different sessions. And so between nineteen seventy five when I started all this and and nineteen eighty three which is a long time. I had this very very long period of apprenticeship so to speak I have through I don't know how many sessions and watching different people's techniques. And so then when I started doing it myself, I simply followed what I learned and had some of these. Psychiatrist.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

05:38 min | 3 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Small so to sheriff's deputies showed up at his house. He presented them with pancake or the cookie or whatever was in the interview he shows it to people. And so the thought maybe the man lost his mind, but he was perfectly sane. He sounded crazy. The police vouch for sanity. So I'm sure there are many more outrageous narratives that are often laughed at in pushed into the realms of hallucination or mental psychosis. But you know, these are some of the narratives that I think are interesting because how they're delivering how crazy it may sound. I mean Ghandi once said first, they ignore you. Then they laugh you then they fight you, and then you win, and I I have been so excited about this show. This this show that's on the history channel called project blue book because it reminds me of all the stories I remember growing up and hearing about and so you get from the flying saucer craze in the forties. Fifties sixties reports of abduction cases for the nineteen fifties in the early nineteen eighty s we continue sightings well into the twenty first century people. Call my show all the time say they see something if you want to read the polls. Today's polls indicate that more than a third of Americans believe that extraterrestrial life in UFO's and the percentage of belief. Here is much higher among people between the ages of eighteen and twenty five and we kinda came to the idea the reason why is because they didn't have all the stuff. And so they see it, and they understand it. And I was drawn also toward article in psychology today, very thorough in explaining that perhaps psychologists and psychiatrists and others should reconsider their criticism of those who have seen UFO's or of experiencing counters or some kind with the occupants of these craft. So the article was headlined talk actually taking UFO seriously by Glenn c Altschuler. Dr Glenn she out Schuler PHD says that while UFO sightings are unsubstantiated testimonials should be taken seriously. In fact, the article actually makes the argument that scientists and the public should not go out of their way to dismiss you phony leaning counters no matter how bizarre they sound. House that I mean for the longest time we've been fighting to get attention to talk about these things. But now they're saying, well, we shouldn't discredit any discount any of them. So I wanted to get some information, especially from a I guess, you could say an expert on this and also regressive hypnosis going back and finding out just what people have been through a person worked with some of the greats like Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, John carpenter and delay. John Mack all guys that you know, back in the day. I even met Budd Hopkins. He was amazing talking about abduction cases, and and other encounters Yvonne Smith with us tonight on ground zero. She's going to be a contact in the desert or so privileged to have around the program high of on. How are you? Well, thank you for having me on pied. I was curious. Did you happen to catch the I guess the call it the the about face in the I guess the psychology and psychiatrists community saying we should reconsider this whole thing. Well, I I was listening to you. And I think that's very interesting. This is true. And I feel that you know, it's about time. I hope it's true. I hope they are starting to why. And listen to us listen to the people had contact who are not crazy. So you know, remai-, I don't know where we're fighting a uphill battle. But we may be gained some ground here. Well, and and I I remember reading a Washington Post article, I think it was maybe two or three years ago. It stated that they probably would have to rewrite some of the criteria for a leader abduction and actually have some I guess some points that they can look over to kind of they're not necessarily dismissing the people are having these experiences. What they wanna do they want to learn more about them into their actually discussing openly phenomenon is again, it's a psychological thing that they say is phenomenal. It's been with us for so long. You can't write it off anymore because it's like like Hynix said he said why there's going to be like the hula hoop would be go away. We wouldn't have to worry about anymore. But then he got seriously into it. And he started studying in of course, project blue book, this TV shows illustrating this. But now, you know, the psychologists who took them long enough. But now they're thinking the same way is Jalen hynick. Did there so much to to look at and understand? And there's so much to offer in stories, and ideas and things have happened and all the research that has been done by people like John Mack people like but Hopkins, and in fact, what you're doing right now, you know, with what Europe up with with the book chosen for the hybrid program to the fate of the planet. I mean, these are some interesting times. Yes. Definitely quite over the years. I have. Psychologists psychiatrists, you know, the mainstream therapists approaching me and telling me, they're, you know, they're very interested in my work with like to know more. But of course, they're afraid to approach this right now because most of them think that their licenses to be revoked, right? Yes. Yes,.

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"budd hopkins" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

05:56 min | 3 years ago

"budd hopkins" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"Where grill like concern. I couldn't be any blame the very hot smoke coming from it. And that was there. Yup. What? Cardboard. And that's what they lived on. No wonder the mall so to sheriff's deputies showed up at his house. He presented them with pancake or cookie, or whatever it wasn't even in the interview, he shows it to people. And so they thought maybe the man who lost his mind, but no he was perfectly sane. He sounded crazy. The police vouch for sanity. So I'm sure there are many more outrageous narratives that are often laughed at in pushed into the realms of hallucination or mental psychosis. But you know, these are some of the narratives that I think are interesting because how they're delivering how crazy they may sound. I mean Ghandi once said first, they ignore you. Then they laugh you then they fight you, and then you win, and I I have been so excited about this show. This this show that's on the history channel called project blue because it reminds me of all the stories I remember growing up and hearing about and show you get from the flying saucer crazy in the forties. Fifties sixties reports of cases for the nineteen fifties in the early nineteen s we continue sightings well into the twenty first century people. Call my show all the time said they see something if you want to read the polls, today's polls indicated more than a third of Americans believe that extraterrestrial life in UFO's and the percentage of. Levers is much higher among people between the ages of eighteen and twenty five and we kinda came to the idea of the reason why is because they didn't have all this stuff. And so they see it, and they understand it. And I was drawn also to an article in psychology today, very thorough in explaining that perhaps psychologists and psychiatrists and others should reconsider their criticism of those who have seen UFO's experienced encounters of some kind with the occupants of these craft. So the article was headlined talk actually taking UFO seriously by Glenn see out Schuler. Dr Glenn c Altschuler PHD says that while you're PO sightings are substantiated testimonials should be taken seriously. In fact, the article actually makes the argument that scientists and the public should not go out of their way to dismiss you a phony alien encounters. No matter how are they sell the house that I mean for the longest time we've been fighting to get attention to talk about these things. But now they're saying, well, we shouldn't discredit any discount any of them. So I wanted to get some information, especially from a I guess, you could say an expert on this, and and also regressive hypnosis going back and finding out just what people have been through a person that's worked with some of the greats like Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, John carpenter and delay. John Mack all guys that you know, back in the day. I even met Budd Hopkins. He was amazing talking about cases, and and other encounters Yvonne Smith with us tonight on ground zero. She's going to be contacting the desert or so privileged to have around the program high of on. How are you? Well, thank you for having me. I was curious. Did you happen to catch the I guess the I call it the the about face in the I guess the psychology and psychiatrists community saying we should reconsider this whole UFO thing. Well, I I was listening to you. And I think that's very interesting. This is true. And I feel that you know, it's about time. I hope it's true. I hope they are starting to wise and listen to us listen to the people had contact who are not phasing. Of life. So, you know, we may I don't know where you know. We're fighting a uphill battle. But we may be getting gaining some ground here. Well, and and I remember reading a Washington Post article, I think it was maybe two or three years ago. It stated that they probably would have to rewrite some of the criteria for alien abduction. And actually have some I guess some points that they can look over to kind of they're not necessarily dismissing the people are having these experiences. What they to do what they want to learn more about them, then they're actually discussing openly. What this phenomenon is again. It's a psychological thing that they say is a phenomenon it's been with us for so long. You can't write it off anymore because it's like like Hynix said he said why thought there's going to be like the hula hoop? It'd be go away we wouldn't have to worry about anymore. But then he got seriously into it. And he started studying, and of course, project blue book, this TV shows illustrating this. But now, you know, the psychologists took them long enough. But now they're thinking the same way as Jalen hynick. Did there's so much to to look at and understand. And there's so much to offer in stories, and ideas and things have happened and all the research that has been done by people like John Mack people like Hopkins, and in fact what you're doing right now. You know with what Europe up with with the book chosen for the alien hybrid program to the fate of the planet. I mean, these are some interesting times. Yes. Definitely quite over the years. I have. Psychologists psychiatrists, you know, the mainstream therapists approaching the and Kelly. Telling me, they're, you know, they're very interested in my work with like to know more. But of course, they're afraid to approach this right now because most of them think that their licenses if anybody revoked right? Yeah. It's unfortunate. Yes,.

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