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Hour 3 - Guest Hosts Jason Smith and Bucky Brooks, Pete Fiutak. (08-23-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 3 - Guest Hosts Jason Smith and Bucky Brooks, Pete Fiutak. (08-23-19)

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Filling in for dan patrick broadcasting from the mercedes studios in los angeles chile. Here's jason smith and bucky brooks. Welcome inside happy friday. Final hour the dan patrick show here on fox sports radio jason smith and bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes bucky brooks getting set for opening night for granada hills high is team getting set to play. I know you still get nervous chris opening up for games. I don't get necessarily nerves. You kind of get excited more than anything like a player all over again because you had a band playing you get all all excited to music playing you see the other team can get rid of is kinda funny because coaching the closest thing to plane that you've ever could do so so for me to friday night. Experience brings back all of their stuff from pop warner on just how much i love playing games <hes>. I'll tell you not not that. It's the same the same level obviously but i love cut because i coach soccer coach and my favorite part is at the beginning of practice when i say okay. Let's get a little running in and i don't have to run the i can stand there and talk to my assistant and say this is what we're gonna do and all this stuff because our football practice was off man. I'll tell you football it was we start we stretch ratchets leg razors and do circles and we're going to run two miles and then practice kills you and then it's forty yard sprints at the end of practice football practice. It was awful. It was diverted scarred me for life. It was evidently now. I'm like i don't do any of that now. I know you guys are going to run and we're going to do this and i'm just going to sit here and staying here bouncing ball. Wait for you guys get done. You're hilarious this this money but i remember that i remember my dad was say on wacky but i remember how nervous nervous i was anxious. I was coaching the flag football championship and i remember like man. I'm studying like black or you're not supposed to after i'm filming. I'm feeling ill patriots way or <hes> i mean i guess there's nothing there but okay look. I will tell you this and this is not a proud coach moment but i will say that okay so there's the thing in football we used to call. You always have to find water so water. Those guys that you have to pay attention to so we're playing the championship and this kid dedicated were rich us and i watched him to game before score like four touchdowns so in practice right at someone a this kid over here he's water so whenever he breaks the huddle on what you guys point adam and say water water water water water so there you go see that in the second quarter kids started crying really starting <music>. We wanted to the entire time. He got the ball running so am i own way. I'm greg williams ordered a bounty. I tell me how how old was a kid. We had to be eleven or twelve to eleven or twelve twelve. Wow hey hey we're trying to. We're trying to to your best player the way to go get exactly what coach on that's awesome all right all right. I'm not stealing soccer. You're feeling that whereas bromine the water now is the end of the story gonna be like he you know he turned. He turned out mayfield remaining. Maybe maybe like an juniors draft ninety hustling this flag football game and he's ordered about and i was determined after that this quick or he's going to say that was what i knew i wanted to quit football but i never played again and instead of playing baseball happy and forget kyla al you made the wrong choice ob- state here whereas i love that well. I'm gonna tell that story all weekend whereas whereas all my friends are going to go to bucky that story yes yes. Where's waldo twitter at bucky brooks twenty two and waldo. If if you are listening and you want to send bucky brooks message on twitter. Let let them know how you're doing. I think he kind of kind of was. I know that <hes> before we get back into the n._f._l. Real farce happened last night with oakland and green bay a huge night late as well. Many baseball games went late. They were weather delays that the mets swept the indians in that game went seven hours. We started the orioles game. Go at least seven hours but in a game that kind of goes exactly how dodger games aims go doesn't matter what the score is doesn't matter what the situation is. The dodgers will walk off. They were down to nothing to the blue jays last night blue. Jays had their backup closer in because is there closer. Ken giles is on the paternity list. He was away from the team having a baby and the dodgers decided okay down to nothing in the ninth inning now. We're gonna start playing why oh goodness centerfield rounding third on his way home as seger throw to the plate what he heard with the the big three in the bottom of the night eight the blue jays three two two charley steiner a._m. Five seventy with the call as you heard him say twelfth walk off for the dodgers. The record is eighteen set by the pirates back in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. It seems like it's more than that for the dodgson like every game is a walked off off but the mental advantage that this gives a team because normally you get to the ninth inning and if your upper run or two runs it's like okay. We're taking care arab business. It's gonna be zip. Zip zip are closes coming in and we're going home with a win but now you get to the ninth inning and doesn't matter what the scores a tie game. The dodgers lose him by a run. It's not just the excitement in the dugout knowing we've done this many times before we can get a run. We can get two runs which is going to help you. The further you go in the season and the playoffs but what it it does mentally to the other team instead of coming in confident that we're going three outs and going home you start to question things and i talked to jack petersen about this a couple of weeks go and i said do you notice teams behaving differently in the ninth inning and he said absolutely you notice guys stepping off the mound unsure what they're going to throw and you see a little hesitancy and we know in the dugout we got him. We got their not as sharp. They're not confident we gotta we can go. We can go do something here against yeah absolutely believe it does play like that. <hes> when you start winning these games late you start winning close games. There's a level of confidence that you're comfortable. In those uncomfortable environments the ninth inning is uncomfortable especially if it's a tie game or game where you behind and all of those pitchers matter when you have to get in the box in his two one and can i cannot defend the plate can i can. I stay stay in this just going to swing at a pitch because i'm so nervous that it overwhelms me. No the dodgers have been able to come through tom-tom again day. Gives your players confidence did they can do it and for the other team. It is almost like you know this as a jet fan arctic disappointment. Are you ever comfortable if we go into the fourth quarter and four minutes left and we're planning on doing the patriots and tom brady has the ball. How do you feel i'm never comfortable right so so that's acids and i think that's the thing that everybody feels. When new england has it when tom brady has the ball because you've seen the patriots do it over and over and over again. You're waiting for the other shoe to drop. There's a comfort in that. There's a comfort if you're on the pages or team that has won like that and for the other team does a level of angst in anxiety that comes along with oh my gosh. I've seen this we don't want we don't want to be on the rocks outta history again and so for the dodgers i think this is something that could be a huge advantage for them as they make their way into the postseason when all of those gains become tight and you used to playing in these nail biting affairs yeah especially with the the problem having the bullpen kenley jansen is not been who we has been a all the talk we had. Hey dodgers had to go get a couple relievers. They didn't get him doesn't matter at kenley. Give up three run jack in the top of the ninth. We got in the bottom of the ninth. It doesn't matter who comes up the dodgers does it. People come from the minors. All they do is hit. Three fifty hit. Walk off like every guy that comes up is great. It's fantastic is it is fantastic but i will. I'll say this as a dodgers fan because we're here locally in l._a. I will say that's great that hitting going but you know in the playoffs does not win the tabasco cold in october and it's all about the pitching and the bull fan and your ability to get out in defense and if they're not able to find a way to close those games out with their middle relievers in their bullpen they would not be able to get accomplished where they want to get accomplished twitter at how about a fresca bucky at bucky brooks twenty two jason smith bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes today <hes> great day in baseball again. The pennant race is heating up phenomenal day again for the dodgers. I'm sure they'll walk off again tonight. The last night and last night was really fun because you know that that's the thing about working nights that really love is that you get so many games that come down to the end and you get thrilling endings and sometimes sometimes it's all within a couple of minutes of each other said we had the dodger game last night and then we had the craziness involving the packers and the raiders they played played in winnipeg last night because the raiders made this deal the play this preseason game in winnipeg when they didn't know where they were gonna play this season when the city of oakland was upset with them and they thought they might have to play games in san diego in a lame-duck year before they go to vegas so they decided we'll go play in winnipeg an hour before the game they were looking over the field and and because the game was played in the cfl field. It's a longer field and they had to take out the goalposts and move them up and they take the goalposts out. They saw that the a big hole in the turf they couldn't tamp it down and it was unsafe so the raider said we don't care we'll play the packer said hang on the second. We can't play with a big hole in the end zone walking around here. We gotta do something so they decide to play on an eighty yard field and they make the ten yard line the goal oh line and the goal line is the end of the end zone no special markings or anything put the pylons there and because of the shorter field they decide no kickoffs so teams are taken taking over from the fifteen yard line and the question that really is it's crazy that in sports talk radio we can ask questions and the answer is. I don't know but really how does the n._f._l. Let this happen. How does this happen and everybody. I don't know how you get from. Hey we're playing this game in canada too. Yeah we gotta take the field eighty yards and we're going to kick off from the fifteen yard line yet such a weird deal man just such a weird experience <hes> that you have this games. These games being promoted for a while. You knew this was happening in canada. <hes> you like the thing that the promoter or the people who are responsible for the stadium would make sure that it had everything in place to make it like an n._f._l. N._f._l. game and better yet. You would like to think that n._f._l. Would step in and make sure that all of these protocols are met before they even traveling get up there the fact that you had so much this chaos on the day of the game and so much indecision about whether the play the game are how to play it what the change to me irresponsible the n._f._l. First and foremost has has to protect the interests of his team in his players and the fact that they trotted. He's got out onto a feel. That may not have been deemed safe for play to me is responsible. That's something that should never happen in the best sports. You know there's certain times i look at what's called like a watershed moment. Where were you learned. Something is forever going to go one way and there's been a lot of talk. The past couple of years obviously about the length of the preseason and spin been wrapped up in the c. B. negotiations owners want eighteen regular season games. They don't want players that that talked to take two games out of the preseason for it but by and large the last couple years we have seen teams completely. Pull all the plug on the preseason where we're not gonna play our starter. Sean mcvay didn't play any starters all four games last year. They went to the super bowl last night. You had this farce of a field field in canada combined with the fact the raiders in a big week sat all their starters and big allegedly because week three is in the big week. They sat all their starters and the packers akers decided. We're sitting thirty three of our guys including aaron rodgers. I look back at last night and i go. This is the night where we're gonna forever. Say say this is the night things changed and the idea and execution of a four-game preseason is going to be done. It's just a matter of time now until we cut games whether it's three games games are two games but this four-game preseason in two years. I can't see it existing. No i mean i think it definitely is going to change. I think this will be one of the reasons why we begin to change because we have seen so many teams out starters so many people are just kind of dismissing the importance of the games because the most important port <hes> during the preseason is to make sure you get your stars in a rhythm by doing that in practice and in that you get every starter that you possibly can have two week one healthy in available so so teams are really changing the priorities where it used to be a week three wanna get into the groove but with teams like the rams and others having success not plane there guys in the preseason it is only at others to kind of take the load management approach twitter at how about a fresca bucky bucky brooks twenty two jason smith bucky broke in for dan and the danettes. We got miami and florida coming up tomorrow the camping world kickoff. 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Okay sure printed program. I don't say okay an enemy of the program and a guy we sorta like p._t. Attack yeah booster friend of the program behalf or something. I got the attack with me. That'll be me. You've got to walk up to him. Gave gave the keys to the lexus and said i don't know good luck. I don't know anything kid glock yeah exactly i will have a let's kick things off. Obviously <hes> <hes> the game tomorrow then we have another week for the rest of it miami in florida florida is ranked in the top ten. Are you believing in florida right now. Is this a florida teen that hey they can stick stick around all season long. I believe in florida last year. I i love this team. In terms of makeup it doesn't have the taliban alabama and it doesn't have the the brand name aim stars of like the tibo era or even pulling the other things that anything rock solid team right across the board <hes>. They're really tough offensive of we. The key is fully paved frank a veteran now. He's not going to be patrick mahomes pretty long as he's not throwing picks and he didn't do that last year. <hes> florida's should be fine and this shockingly. It's in orlando florida in late august. It's going to be hot and it's going to be about one hundred thousand percent humidity. There might be thunderstorms storms so if you're an investor type like the under like defensive slugfest. I think florida windsor easily by touchdown mainly because hey richard freshman adjourn williams quarterback good luck against this secondary which might be the best in the country. You know stay on it for minute p. Jaren williams being the starting quarterback. That was a bit of a surprise because everyone expected take marta when he made to transfer from ohio state to be the guy. What happened in essen are you. Are you in college. Football not very good <hes> then that was sort of the issue at ohio state you know he's okay but he was iraq. He wasn't consistent and it for program. That's really sort of on the right and for many d._s. He does get a honeymoon period here. There's no pressure. They're not ranked. We're not supposed to beat florida. It's supposed to go to a bowl game and show signs that you know they're progressing aggressing. Get a couple of good recruiting class and they're on their way so anything that they can do positive in this gravy so why not go with the guy who you can build around if he's that doc good if he's the best of the three then okay develop him and he is for a franchise quarterback for the next few years and see what he is so all right pete martell tells you take martell there. You can always thrown into the mix but yes sometimes these transfers. Don't quite go the way you might like them to be from a guy who has a lot of grace period to a guy who does not anymore. Even though hey we win eight nine ten games played new year's bowl games doesn't matter michigan jim harbaugh find themselves in a very familiar spots still bill looking up at ohio state in the preseason rankings knowing he's gotta beat ohio state out. Is there really that kind of pressure on harbaugh this year that if he doesn't win he doesn't win these big rivalry games that he might wind up losing support in the program and the fan base it depends on what the rest of the season goes. I mean my attitude. What else are you gonna do. It's not hard look if cliff kingsbury he go from being this muzio head coach at texas tech to the arizona cardinal gig if hardball what that he's the dallas alice cowboys head coach tomorrow i mean he's still an elite coachee talent. <hes> and i'm a i'm an apologist for him. Look for that program was and then he's won ten ten games three of those first four seasons and his big sin if he can't get by ohio state which just so happened to that one of the most epic runs in college football history history when urban meyer was there. It's kinda like doggie hey l._s._u. <hes> why can't you beat alabama or florida state now. Why can't you clemson. It's that was just a just just an elite. Elite program. Just couldn't quite get past but he's still done a very good job. He was right there. You know other than that in the lincoln play way but if they're against ohio state at the end and forget the florida wokv whatever it's just a bowl game <hes> but he's got to make up this year so again too long wasting to your point if they win ten games again and there are at least in the mix all right you know what else what else he kinda looking for be careful of that theory of grass is being asked ask nebraska they don't vote pollini nine years in good enough and now they're just starting to get out from under that so <hes> we can be careful what you wish for if you don't like when he gave the a year okay so this is a personal one. What do you expect for mack brown his return to north college football like it's you wait again nice. I don't like they get only because where's the vision if you're louisville and you've got scott satterfield de thought up and coming head coach taking a shot that you've got the next superstar there <hes> <hes> west virginia getting brown from troy. That's taking a big georgia tech getting jeff collins. That's a high rising head. Coach matt brown like what's your goal all like. Are you hoping to go. Maybe a win games and the next at some point in the next few years and maybe we'll go to a couple of nights pools okay but the problem is the coastal is the division. That's there for the taking right now. If you're in the atlantic you got that big clemson thing to deal with and eventually florida state's gonna turn a turnaround so if you're in north carolina yeah you why not go for it and you get a guy who you can turn this program into a superpower unless you're thinking okay. Mack brown's the guy who gets to point b. and then we get the guy who can take it from there or else. You're just thinking you no what are boosters are going to give us a lot more money. If we hired this guy that everyone likes and that's kind of what they did college football insider publisher of college football news dot com few tech our guest here on the dan patrick patrick show jason smith bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes for four years in the n._b._a. When we had the the quattro fact of of the cavaliers and the golden state warriors we kinda just spent time killing time waiting for the n._b._a. Finals we knew was going to happen between cleveland and golden state are we at that the point now in college football where we're gonna kill time for four months just waiting for them next chapter and clemson alabama yeah and it sucks and compare it to where the n._f._l. Is i mean look at look. That'd be statement about the n._f._l. I i know just want again but excitement there is in. I'm here in chicago this. There's a lot of fun or new orleans insert fired up. The rams are fired. I mean look look at all. The energy there is with all these new quarterbacks. You have at least twelve different franchises going into this season. You know julian intimately it can go to a super bowl and twenty franchising litter can say we're going to the playoffs and you're if you're in college. It's not just the college playoff. Let's fun if you're michigan and maybe you'll get over the hump and you're going to get there and then you get your doors blown off fifty five three by alabama so the thing is if it's not alabama clemson then something really funky is gonna have to happen or a unfortunately it might come down to injuries which i think is going to be the story line of the college football because now that we have all these transfers. You don't have have the depth. The quarterback who's starting quarterback is gonna last the season remember last year at this time. Trevor lawrence jalen hurts justin field. They were all backups and they might be the three starting quarterbacks in the college football playoff. This year jake from goes down georgia's completely screwed. If <hes> justin feels great ohio states forget about it. Trevor lawrence goes down for a little while. You can absolutely lose two games so really is going to be about who keeps their starting quarterback upright and hopefully to and trevor can last the entire season so we we can see these teams can do but don't count george. That's the third team that's got the talent to be right there and should be the lynching right there with those other two big boys. You know it's funny that you mention in jalen hurts going to oklahoma. What's your expectations for him and his performance under lincoln riley. Take a new national championship he his greatest baker mayfield tyler murray were they don't have the rings <hes> do hurt pick play away from being a two time starting quarterback on a national champion it would if you can start for nick sabin as a freshman you you gotta have a different sort of makeup. You gotta be different sort of guy and he is absolutely that how do you how do you leave alabama and have people absolutely still love. You and you are still a cult hero there. He is he's are they different sort of player and he might not be tyler murray or baker mayfield when it comes to during the deep ball or the big numbers but he was accurate of family he hit sixty three percent of his passes he can hit the guys in stride and let them go and be a part of this quick hitting off and he can run and you've got again that sort of leadership ability and the veteran makeup and he's got the rings to say guys. I've been a national championship games. You haven't and as long as the defense is anything less than anything better than the worst in college college football again if they could just hold serve a little bit more and it looks like they will the new defensive coordinator there. I think they're gonna be right there. In the mix of the national championship fight lastly pete what week week during the year does u._s._c. leave clay helton on the tarmac and higher urban meyer yea students. I look at that schedule. It's brutal and that's how how do you know that everyone loves clay helton and he's a good guy. He's still there. I mean who goes to seventy u._s._c. job but he is. He's everyone likes them. It's not a lane kiffin situation where we wanted to get rid of them that he's the reason why he's still there is because everyone likes him and wants to give them a shot and he's going to be removed from winning the pac twelve title but but it's u._s._c. You're only getting one vote in the a._p. College football pool. That's just not right so you're right. I mean it's either if you're urban meyer and you really want to get back into coaching. You can make instead of notre dame. Is anything less than nine free. Maybe that's your dream gig of dreamgig. They pay you right or else you slide right into u._s._c. The and you make him an instant superpower superpowers again. You can find on twitter at pete few tack that has at seatac the publisher longtime insider college football news dot com the the best college football website you can go to for predictions analysis insights college football news dot com longtime friend of the show cottrill. We'll get you more poison when you come on at night tha- tha- that's only we only play poison at nighttime. You can only played after people went through. The sweep are ready to hear that yes. Thanks peter appreciate it. I got great stuff there from p._t._o. Tech like that's the one thing will fight for a fight against this college football season as you know. Are we just killing time for alabama and clemson but story lines that are going to dominate that u._s._c. story line is going to dominate because everyone is still on the u._s._c. hangover. When are they going to be good again. When does it happen again. When did they hit back on that run that was that was liners and john david booty and reggie bush russian heisman trophies and carson palmer. When's that going to happen and sam darnold kind of rekindled that a little bit a couple of years ago but that's the thing for u._s._c. is that i feel like they weren't able to really take advantage of the sam darnold era because by the time he started. He took over too late into the season. They already had three losses so that big big push. They had to come at the end of the season. They couldn't compete for national championship. The next year they lost a game early and he was gone and then he was in the national football league so it's like the guy they they had. They couldn't really take advantage of. Nobody big thing that i'm curious to see in has been mentioned a little bit u._s._c. will be the first prominent the team. The two us air rates system meaning the first team that we view as a power team as a blue ribbon team to use the air rate and amongst their alums. There's a bit of a divide it because you have the old school alums who were there john mckay and john robinson and they won't smashmouth all aww come down hill. They also remember the pekair air where they just lined up as it were better than you for some people on the outside looking at u._s._c. program. I'm going to the air raid. They see it is tricky and gimmicky and they believe that s._e. Is above that so how this offense looks early in the year could determine whether there becomes a drumbeat to get clay hill now today because of day look finesse and this offense doesn't take like they think are they gonna run them out really really early in the season. Well that's part of the deal with harbaugh in michigan as you watch horrible in michigan play and you go. Oh my god wears offense from me. It's it's a sledgehammer offense offense. That's designed. We're going to run the football. We're gonna throw we're gonna but it looks you watch them. Play in big games and you go. Oh my god. This is this is this is terrible and then you look at a team like just to get my school in syracuse terrible. We won six games in four years. Dino babies comes in and says we're gonna play every four seconds and it's going to take two years and it's going to be the middle of the second year where things are going to take off and i'm like okay. We'll wait and then look what happened. They take off ten games last year games. I mean it's incredible the second second year third year. This is the third year we won because we upset clemson the year before that was the big win that tells you what's happening third year ten games and now our top twenty five team again and back jack dusted off dude. It was tough assistance syracuse to ask you this. How do you feel about the s on a helmet like i'm <music>. I'm so used to seeing just to orange with stripes. I'm okay with that. Whenever wherever you know once he gets yeah whatever whatever whatever plus it's more gear you could buy a no. I need something with a new on the helmet. I got the s on the helmet <hes> t-shirt last year but i got here at the helm teacher this year but you bring up something that does matter like is this is not only winning and certain areas for certain schools is the way in which you win stylistically style points. How do they look you talk about michigan michigan this game fans are fine with them playing a nineteen seventies and eighties office if they're winning but in big games the last couple of years. We haven't seen them win. Those big games haven't in ohio state. We saw him lose michigan state. We seem to go back and forth with notre dame s some point. You want to say look if you're this old school hammerhead. We're tough. We're physical coach. Let's do it but i think the thing that may change with them. This year and people haven't talked about office coordinator. Josh gaddis comes over came from mississippi state. He had been at penn in state was at penn state when saquon barkley there a lot of arpaio type stuff for their quarterback shape. Patterson should be a perfect fit. Give him the opportunity to read the defense in terms of zone. Read arpaio's quick screens. When you have the talent they have on the outside. They got some play. Donald jones people they have some guys who can make the place. They need to make sure they put the ball into his let your athletes out win. The other ghosts seek and that's why that was the whole reason the air raid offense came around to begin with it was how do we line up against teams that out athlete us well. We're going to spread it. We're going to go five wide. We're going to throw the football on every play. We're gonna find a way to run plays fast and that's how we're going to level all the playing field. It makes it harder for a team to prepare okay. We got to throw everything out the window this week and all we prepare for this quirky offense. That's a pain in the ass and then what happens and now the bigger teams the alabama's and the client you're saying hey you know what yeah we like that. Even the chiefs watching the kids teach mahomes. It's like watching the big twelve and a saturday afternoon. Scores seventy twenty points in the game dynamic is exciting. You see a lot of stuff and the more that we look at saturday football and sunday football the more they look like the more we're seeing the blending of the two <hes> offense is funny because there are some conversation this week about cliff kingsbury and at the game last week oakland raiders safety lamarcus joyner said they they have a pretty boy offense meaning they wanna play they wanna throw it all over the yard and the cardinals took offense to it but you are seeing teams college pro used these basketball skew ball on grass type offense where they're trying to create space and they're saying that my athlete is better than your guy. I just needed space and allow him to do what he does. Fox fox sports radio the dan patrick show jason smith bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes express employment professionals is sending the ultimate. Thank you to all workers. This month. Expresses awarding thousand dollars cash cash prizes every week and a chance to win a ten thousand dollar vacation to enter in view rules visit expresspros dot com slash ultimate thank you today express nose jobs get to no express well blurring the line between saturday and sunday for a couple minutes era story. We first brought you earlier. In the show about an hour or so ago of the athletic is reporting that add jacoby percent of the cult's will sit for the colts third preseason game on saturday ostensibly to protect your kobe bruce said who now it it looks more and more likely he's going to have to play week. One andrew lucked will not be able to go the calf injury that he suffered during the off season. April still is not good enough for him to practice in play and bucky the this is andrew luck. It's not like we ever thought they were problems between him and the colts we never thought there was a a difficult relationship but the fact that this injury not only did he not really tell the team about it i mean he he had a calf injury april and then he comes to camp the end of july and says yeah my calf was not better so wait a minute april may june all through and you're telling us now that your calf is not right and so you have that disconnect and then when you have andrew luck saying it's a calf and jim irsay saying it's a small bone and chris ballard saying it's high ankle ish. I'm andrew. Look even talking to the colts about this. This is a situation where there there's something really funky going on very very weird situation. <hes> i think is weird on a couple couple of fronts. I think is weird that they're not <hes> unified in their position when it comes to what the injury is in terms of their presentation to us on the outside. <hes> should be one in unified message that a andrew luck has blank whatever the injury is too it seems like because they're in different lanes when it comes to where they think andrew who is with his progress from the injury. I wonder if andrew is getting treatment on his own is he unsecure of the colts for like people like what is really going on because it shouldn't be this much <hes> disconnect seemingly between owner general manager head coach and player at some point they all should be in the room discussing discussing what the plan is to get andrew back and play and then finally i think look jacoby being held out of this final game which is known as the dress rehearsal to to me indicates that he's going to start in week one win. The regular season starts otherwise they would let him play knowing that andrew is on schedule this leads me to you believe that there is some doubt there's some uncertainty about whether andrew luck will be available to play for the regular season oakland. I'll tell you what both and melania and we're going. Hey all all right. We're getting jacoby percent week one and not andrew luck. It's gonna be pretty exciting for the chargers look to charge discharge their team. That is a loaded team. They have their own issue without melvin gordon being available. We'll we'll see if that hold out dragged into the regular season but yet you don't want to face them with melvin ingram enjoy bosa and their crew <hes> coming at them now gobert set is solid. He saw it as a short-term starter. We will see if he can be a guy that can carry them if he has to carry them without android available for while jason smith bucky brooks in in for dan and the danettes here on the dan patrick show fox sports radio coming up next. I know it was just yesterday that we talked on the show about how hey you know. We may see women kicking in the n._f._l. At at some point after karl lloyd drilled that fifty five yarder <hes> that they could be some coming waste sooner than any of us anticipated will tell you why coming up next. This is fox walks. Everybody's got it. I get one for my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house so i can relax. Here's an the idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance the good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to geico dot com and in fifteen fifty minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance the like extra money in your pocket. 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It is the dan patrick show jason smith bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes today twitter at how about a fresca bucky at bucky brooks twenty two and before we get to potential woman kicking the national football league because we may be a little bit closer to that happening and then we even were yesterday first this news coming in regarding cam newton's injury last night second quarter against the patriots cam. Newton was sacked didn't look like the play really was awful but newton left the game with a left leg injury. <hes> left the stadium in a walking boot. Ron rivera did not have any real updates on on cam newton. It looked like oh boy. Panthers are in trouble without cam newton. They could wind up being the worst team in the n._f._l. But good news for the panthers and cam newton the x rays as came back negative. We talked to charles davis <hes> n._f._l. On fox college football analysts <hes> n._f._l. Analyst lee earlier in the show. He said people he talked to in carolina earlier today. Day were optimistic and they felt that he would be ready for week one in fact that's not what we're hearing more out of carolina that the panthers are optimistic newton. We'll be ready ready for week. One today's show brought to you by mercedes a._m. G. p. prepared for whatever comes your way in the all new g._t. Four door coupe because life is a race visit your local dealership for a test drive today and if you missed any of the celebrity interviews this week whether it was charles davis or someone else all be an issue from the mercedes a._m. G. man cave just go to the dan patrick app where you can watch and listen from inside the mercedes a._m. Man cave mercedes a._m. G driving performance. You know the thing about cam newton is that he's on the back half half of his career and bucky the end of his career is gonna come quicker than anticipated because look bigger quarterbacks breakdown early. Cam newton has had a physical style of play for his career. I can't see him lasting as long as they ben rothlisberger because rothlisberger takes fewer hits than cam. Newton newton just gets dinged up. I don't know that when we get to thirty thirty two thirty three he's going to have the n._f._l. Body of like a forty five year old i mean that's really where what's where it's like for cam. That is what it's like for cam. I think the big thing for him. <hes> <hes> early in his career people try to tell them about changing his game not necessarily changing how he plays being smarter in terms of not taking the bic shots when now you're older player. You've been in the league for nine on years. You're beginning to see how you have to transition. I think the best thing that i've heard people kind of talk about he has been rothlisburger like i want you to go back and think about how being berger used to play when he first came into the league he was a gunslinger. He's a little reckless. He took shots. He played sandlot ball. Will the thing that ben rothlisberger hated when todd haley came and say you can't play like this and last a long time. They made them shorten up his throwing a get the ball out. Let's play makers. Make the place for cam newton. They've started to try and and due to north turner has started to do some of those things. Get the ball out. Let the other guys make plays for you. You don't have to feel like everything is on you. Christian mccaffrey we saw christian mccaffrey have a great year. We saw some of the young playmakers d._j. More begin to step up. Cam newton has to make it where he is taking care of him himself. He's not putting putting himself in harm's way. Somebody has to do it off as to play better but he can't take unnecessary risk because if they lose him their chances of going to the playoffs go down the drain twitter out how about a fresca bucky at bucky brooks twenty two and as i said a few minutes ago maybe t- needs a kicker. Neither jets need kicker. Other teams need kickers the bears. I'm sure kicker her of d._c. Doesn't matter who they have you know they need to kick her and potentially karl lloyd could be the answer viral sensation the other day women's national star dr <hes> world cup winner this year two thousand fifteen got a new degree of fame when she drilled a fifty five yard field goal at eagles practice longtime amigos fans that a lot of honking about the eagles when super bowl year and she shows up at practice kicks a forty yard field goal they said all right how about from fifty five and she drills it would have been good from sixty sixty five now. She did get a nice long run-up but right down the middle fifty five yards in a conversation. I had a little bit with teacher. Who's masada. Yesterday was hey you know. Could we see a female kicking in the n._f._l. At some point i could see it. I could see it happening. It would be a bit of evolution. You would need a a girl from high school to be a great soccer player and then make all kinds of kicks and be a big threat than get a big time d. One scholarship makes big kicks in win games and i can see it in the n._f._l. I said maybe a few years away but carli all lloyd doesn't interview yesterday saying that she is quote definitely gotten some inquiries from football teams and says anything is possible. I'm thinking next year. She may go to training camp with somebody. Somebody is possible because it's a position where you definitely want someone that is consistent knocking the ball through. If carli lloyd proves was or any female kicker proves that they can consistently nail kicks. They'll have an opportunity <hes> the league is a seven point lead most games game scott about one score or less so you need someone that can consistently run out to the field and knock it through and so if she proves that she can knock it with a reasonable range from forty five yards maybe fifth yards or fewer consistently. She absolutely can get a chance to kick in the league because right now forty yards you you have to make anything waited. Wait forty five yards is that you gotta make them. They have to be money. Kicks like the way that you look at it thirty nine yards and fewer those need to be automatic. When you get to forty to forty nine yours high-percentage you thinking man eighty percent of those kitchen go when you get to fifty and beyond that look a fifty fifty proposition but if you have a guy that can consistently male the long distance kick it changes the way that you call your game on offense so it's a huge weapon when you're the baltimore ravens and you have justin tucker who has consistent so everyone. Everyone is looking for the competitive advantage if carly laura improve the she is a competitive advantage. Someone was honored and i don't. I don't see it and that's the that's the great part about the n._f._l. As it i don't think teams would care you can make fifty yeah okay great. We don't care if you're woman. We don't care here years old. We don't care if you're a dog. We don't care if you're an elephant. It doesn't you can make that kick. We don't care doesn't matter mac and say you point blank granada hills. We had <hes> a young lady come and try and kick and she wanted to kick and she was good. We just couldn't get it worked worked out absolutely what had no issue with her into p._a._t. Field goal kicker knocking it through what you're looking for their position because it's such a tenuous spot you looking for consistency. You can find someone that can consistent nail short and long kicks. You signed him up. Would there be any problems locker room. Everything would be okay. Nah maybe find marc spears. There's and just watching like there's never an issue like i think now we at a stage where there's not an issue like guys won't teammates and so good teammates to show up that were guard consistent in their performance. They have spot on the team. I don't think it'd be an issue in the locker room and she had to make a tackle. I mean i'm sure she she could. They probably wouldn't want her. You run to the side run to the side but i i in a perfect world. We wouldn't see a reason for her to have to make a tackle because you kicking in kicks. Okay i mean we've had a problem where he's been blocked or something like that and we don't want it because i don't know if we have male kickers that can consistently make tackle michael so yeah. It is something that we wouldn't want to experiment in see on the feel great stuff this week. Thanks a bunch checkout. Bucky bucky brooks twenty two on twitter good unluck tonight near <hes> opening night game or not a hills high good luck. Hey man it should be doing great stuff this week. Thanks alisha producer justin frostburg coming in early flipping around their scheduled to make sure we get everything up on social media. Get the show go and phenomenal saw. Thanks you guys so much. Thanks joel. This is fox sports radio for bucky. I'm jason enjoy the games. Listen carli lloyd call the jets. They need somebody. 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Hour 2 - Guest Hosts Jason Smith and Bucky Brooks, Charles Davis (08-23-19)

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Hour 2 - Guest Hosts Jason Smith and Bucky Brooks, Charles Davis (08-23-19)

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Go app including location sharing driving activity ebony alerts and an emergency westbound that's a._d._t. Real production brought to you by a._d._t. Filling in for dan patrick broadcasting from the mercedes studios goes in los angeles. Here's jason smith and bucky brooks happy friday. Welcome inside our to the show. Jason bucky taking you through today day plenty of n._f._l. News coming off the games last night. Bucky brooks is shooing early practice today with his high school team to hang out with us here talk football opening night for granada hills team. What's the point spread on your game tonight man. I don't ought to say look this is this is played out. Let's focus on effort is focused on playing hard. Let's focus on making sure we do the right things and then whatever score looks like at the end we i do it. I'd say you're not the favourite then they're not. We're not we're not to favor. You're definitely not the favorite what's one thing you've learned. Go taken from your career career playing your scout and now you're coaching is what's one thing he said boy. I never thought about this part of it. Now that you're coach <hes> man just how much organizational skills like your organization ability has to be superb to be able to handle this deal like you have to love dealing with emails and paperwork and scheduling and you have to have it all together and i'll be honest with you. It takes a village for me because that's not that's not necessarily what i enjoy joy doing and i've learned that and i've been able to identify that and so you try surround yourself with the people who are really good at that thing so i can do what i like to do which is put my grass and hanikos and do that but there's there's a lot to behind the scenes before you ever get to gain the that you like. Oh my gosh every day. There's an email apparent conversation. <hes> there's something that comes and with the kids <hes>. Why is it my kid playing why my play more. Why is my kid play. You get you get some of that. You get some of that stuff and <hes> <hes> that but it really is because then you'll get another note from a kid who send you south today accomplished in the classroom or something that happened <hes> good to them are positive that you feel like you're part of and that brings you back. Okay to cool that is that is why. I'm in it for but it's still a lot. It is an interesting deal. Even though i've been coaching high school of all for ten years prior it is still an interesting thing moving from what i call the suggestion box to the decision maker because all of this adjusted their coach we should we should do this and we should do that and then you have to make you layer doing it. That's in what i'm not best but not a ton of fun so i'm excited to just go out and kinda honesty and we're gonna let it hang loose and just kinda see what it looks like when when we finished on friday night coach i saw this play on youtube right i i. I think we can do this look coach. You know we can do this. Yes we just put him in coach. Come on what are we doing that. It's enough for me. Just has coaching girls soccer like i did so the only thing i can say because your experience coaching girls soccer is that i hope all of my experience coaching rec leagues be a flag back football. Be it basketball like i say this like in l._a. Flag football coach at belvoir boas force and we won the city title three years in a row and what i'm hoping opening some of the lessons that we learn from those things like hey coordinating snack day in who and playing <hes> sharks and minnows oh south one any of those things you're hoping this some of that stuff can kind of translate to when you get us situations and you dealing with okay because look it doesn't change where their youth ball high school ball college or the pro. They're all the kids the same methods of trying to motivate them and get them to to play together and having fun or whatever it all applies but man. Sometimes you have to dig down a gas. We're conditioning. Guess what we're doing. Relay races like little stuff like any any of this stuff so it is it's been a blast has been fun. I'm excited for friday night. I could because even because i learned that one of the first things even coaching all starts. I coach all stars the last couple years to first thing at every practice. Let me have everybody's phone. That's the first thing let me have everybody's phone gimme. You're glad you brought it because you talk about me coaching at granada hills but we do these big events. It's <hes> the opening where you have to top. One hundred fifty kids there in the first thing as a coach. You're trying to talk to the team and i hope everybody put your phone in your pocket. They just just put you. Just put your phone into pocket for a little bit while we talk. I promise you i'll make it as short as i can. Five to six minutes of information and then you can go to your phone and then it's even different now because of social media and the like at halftime you have guys running to the phone on to get on twitter and instagram and he like whoo say here say what we're trying to play and that's why when <hes> <hes> early in the offseason you heard people give cliff kingsborough a hard time because he talked about technology breaks right after twenty minutes of film. I gotta give the guys a break and it was like oh my god. What are you doing that but i heard it from older coaches at established programs like the giants and the dolphins like oh you gotta give those guys a break they can't function without their fall so he kind of took it in the chance for saying that but it's something that everyone in the league is dealing with and so you can imagine if they didn't win league. If filters down to the lower ranks fox sports radio jason smith bucky brooks in granada hills tonight not the favourite but bucky are already good with all the coachspeak. We're gonna go out. Let whatever the result is play hard. Play hard to play her. That's right. Dan reeves for motivation everybody well i went to school like everybody played hard but one guy who's not gonna play it. All on saturday. We spent some time talking about cam newton's injury injury <hes> last night and it looks like things are going to be okay left the game with a walking boot <hes> after getting sacked and second quarter against the patriots but x-rays negative so it looks like like the panthers of dodge an injury. Maybe not so much for the colts as this is just broken by the athletic in the past few minutes to kobe perset is is not going to play saturday night in their third preseason game. Most of the starters will rest obviously but jacoby brusett is not going to play head coach frank reich saying quote at some level you wanna protect your koby to be honest with you. Regardless of andrew andrew luck status for week. One has gone from everything is fine too man. We don't know when the guy is gonna play and there's two things at play here with angela because now i think that the world is it's kind of thinking that man andrew luck really is not right right. How do you have there's gotta be some kind of huge disconnect between andrew luck and the colts front office because you had this injury which he suffered in the off season and this happened in april and he comes to camp and says yeah you know my calf hasn't gotten better whoa you at april may june july all the time to take care error this unsubtly he shows up at camp and now i don't know if i'm right you you had formosa look at this and and it's just coming up at the end of july. I feel like as a coach. You tell me about out this now. The end of july with this was four months ago. I mean how does that happen. You know this is a weird scenario so weird situation angelic as a an extensive injury history. He's been beat up. Agassi missed parts of two seasons. <hes> with his injury came back into allston a year last year but this calf injury <hes> i look i get it. <hes> andrew luck wants to be very cautious on the heels of what we saw what kevin durant i do believe that could be playing like kevin. Durant forces way back came back too soon soon and i don't know if it's related to his achilles tendon tear but he came back you see it and i think for andrew luck. He certainly doesn't wanna put himself in jeopardy. I think also for the colts <hes> i think the coles wanted to be a little patient and cautious how they're dealing with andrew luck. I think the thing that's concerning you. Don't have a uniform voice <hes> a unified voice in terms of what they're releasing to us about the injury your ankle your calf here <hes> bone bruise or whatever it is at some point you like to get everyone in the room andrew ballard ursa a how are we going to handle this okay. This is what we're going to say so everyone says the same thing thing because now it does look like chaotic and andrew may be doing his own thing when it comes to medical care and i don't think as an organization you can have those things kind of getting out to the press us where we can pick it apart because it becomes another distraction for frank right when we sit in the presser and we ask those questions like guys. I've already told you everything that i i can tell you about andrew yeah well. At some point you would think they would have that meeting now to say how we're going to go forward because within a span of three days last week it was luck says it was a calf half and then you had irsays saying it's a it's a small bone and then you had chris ballard of the conference call saying it's high ankle issue. I'm like dude. You're the g._m. You don't know what i mean it. I get that sometimes you don't wanna talk a lot about an injury but if you're gonna come forth with it you have to know that you have now three different people including the guy who's injured himself all all saying a different thing about this injury and this is this is andrew luck. This is not a you know a young up and coming quarterback. You know this is not a guy who has <hes> the people around him that are stopping you from finding out how good he from how injured is not the n._b._a. Where a guy like kevin durant can tell his inner circle how he's feeling and the warriors. There's is say well. We don't know. We hope he's okay yeah. This is the n._f._l. Where where you are on top of every single thing and still there's this whole disconnect between luck and the colts and it doesn't seem like anything as adversarial which doesn't make what's going on. I it's hard to process this is this is actually happening in the n._f._l. To one of the best quarterbacks yet is kinda weird going to see it play out like that it doesn't it doesn't make sense <hes> that we're having so many questions about injury like you should have been a statement put out they continue to details you tell us on this progress and then when he's eventually expected to come back but i won't say the misdiagnosis the differing opinions on what the injury is is is a little concerning and maybe speaks to. They really don't know what's going on with his lure. When i try to look at the future of of andrew luck and say what's he gonna get because now we're talking about the back. Half of his career is going to be thirty years old the colts i think for n._f._l. Fans everybody needs to find the new normal for what we're going to get from him and the new normal for andrew luck is some years. He's going to be healthy and some years. He's going to be hurt and you. Just gotta hope that the stars align that a year where he's healthy is a year you have a really good team in a strong offensive line and you can make a big run because you guys don't get healthier as they get older infringe. Look who's already missed as you said parts of two seasons now you have this calf injury that he suffered in the off season somehow. It's not gonna get any better and the the is this going to be a season where he's helping. You have no idea anymore you can't it. Just say going into this year. We're planning around andrew. Lock and things are going to be great. You can't do that anymore now. You can do it anymore and i think you have to plan. According to that which is why jacoby percent is sitting out. I believe leave their fully <hes> intending for him to be the starting week. One andrew somehow makes a miraculous comeback and he's able to play cool but right now. I think their focus in their intent is to get koby percent ready to play as a starter in week. One now anna comes to cam newton. We mentioned him a little bit a couple of seconds again. That's the breaking news. We have right now jacoby perset. I'm not going to play saturday. He's resting zach keefer of the athletic reporting this because they want to protect <hes> andrex availability for week one which oh by the way wouldn't be. He something that is <hes>. Hey we got easy game to start with there at the chargers week one so you know hey good luck with <hes> joey bosa and melvin ingram good luck good luck jacoby percent some fun there yet it it is different in in the jacuzzi percent play fine to an extent in new england and he was okay during his time with goals. I think we see the difference. When the ended office. Goals have andrew luck and when they have co percent they can fox serviceable but i don't know if they are winning product. Would you kobe said a quarterback and so frank. Reich is doing the right thing. He's kind of attacking it on the front end right now. He knows that he has to get you ready so they gotta start doing things on offense in practice to get them ready for that first game so we can be very very comfortable. Who do you think we see play. I this year in the regular season. We see andrew luck or do we see cam newton cam newton cam damn week one thing i think we can we went. I think it would take a lot for cans it out. May i don't even know his back over his. He has to play steve. Berlin have will greer as back but he has to play yeah. They'll call derek anderson at some point. Hey come i. I you know the system. We're going into a josh mccown or to make a trade for josh mccann. We need a forty year old guy come in and play. You got him play. You check things all the time like your email social media but discover asked what about checking something as important as your credit score. Well discover makes a quick and easy with their credit score card which is free for everyone. Even if you're not a customer see your fico go credit score and other important credit information and once you know your score. You should check to see if your current credit card is the best fit for you. Learn more at discover dot com slash credit score card. That's discovered dot com slash credit score card limitations. They do apply so the latest on cam andrew luck. 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Fox sports radio. It is the dan patrick show. Jason smith bucky brooks in for dan in the dan. That's today plenty of big n._f._l. News coming off a week three of the preseason. We're just brought to the story story a few minutes ago. The athletic reporting jacoby percent is going to sit on saturday as the colts protect availability for week one that sells you andrew luck. Most likely is not going to play joining us now on the hotline n._f._l. On fox n._f._l. Network n._f._l. Draft analyst doesn't all charles davis c._d. What's happening. Hey guys. How're you doing happy football season again to talk with you again seriously now. We're at the point where okay we're two weeks away from the regular season we got real storylines is not just about holdouts. It's fun yeah. You're right and if you're kobe percent is sitting out this last game. Things did get real didn't in indianapolis. You don't why the duckie and i were just talking about this a few minutes ago. There just seems to be some kind of disconnect between andrew luck and the team when it comes to when he gets injured. There's so much time lapse before we even knew andrew. Luck had a bad calf. Still you ask each each of andrew locker. Say or chris baladora three different opinions as to what is injury is. Why is what's going on going on this way with indianapolis. I have no answer for that. I'm not even going to attempt to try to have cared. 'cause you know that's that's kind of been the way of the world for for like the last. I'm going to even say ten to fifteen years in the n._f._l. In college football in major corporations nations right you don't have you don't put coaches out there without them. Going through media training right you bring media training for your players. You talked about things are looking looking for you. Talk to him about being a message and don't affect the brand. Make sure you protect the shield and we have every buzz-phrase available the idea so you know. We don't have a connection in one clear message. Coming out throws you a little bit because that's just not normal nowadays nowadays we're looking to fi- i bad as opposed to you know the days of old where you'd never knew what you were going to get. You know you guys remember john. L smith all right. Okay well the all time great halftime interviews and i've always had a fight with one of my bench i in this business. Who's always said you know the halftime interview. We gotta go get. It and that's like that's a waste of time. You know going to talk to the coach. After coach well thought were good gook care and and we would fight about it back and forth as like it's just it's absolute total waste khan and the john l smith at halftime of michigan state game gave one of the all-time time ramps and my phone's ringing before he was done with his last words e c get it. This is why we do do it but you know my long winded answer memorize it. I had nothing there and i kept going yeah. Nothing i don't know in in in the tough part is all of us who are fans of the game. We just want andrew luck to be healthy. 'cause wasn't it much more fun last year. Indianapolis andrew lucked comeback player indianapolis played. Well went to the playoffs watching that kid play is is just a blast. I can't believe they would dangle one year of greatness back in front us and then. We're back to wonder whether we'll see him again or not. I hate that yeah. It's crazy to think that he may not be available. Let's spin bennett to another quarterback. <hes> are you beginning to worry about cam newton and his ability to come to withstand these injuries. He had ankle injury last night. He's coming the shoulder surgery. What do you think about cam newton. You know bucky. It's tough for me because i think you know as well as anyone and ah you've observed this and talked about it before. Cam is viewed wilt. Chamberlain was when he first hit yet. There were no fouls because he was too big strong physical for everyone right membership. They talked about that with shack not getting calls. You know that sort of thing because you just you just bigger a bigger and stronger and everybody's like well. You can play through that. We kind of get used to that with cam. Didn't we and i think we went through it. The year after they went to the super bowl. Remember the opener opener against denver where he took a couple of shots to the head they weren't called and remember the the the extra hits and memories that i just want the same protection the other accuser getting reading and there was like a subconscious deal like well. You're also a big time runner so we just don't protect you the same. He's like yeah but what i'm throwing the football but quarterback. I'm not a runner and he wasn't getting that so to your answer to answer your your your obvious question. Which is you know. A lot of things are piling up well. It happens with age age. It happens over time. I worry about that but i just wonder if this is an accumulation to bucky you know. This guy's been running the football in books. He was all all in on it right. Ron rivera said what two seasons ago let's try and pull back and cam said yeah but a lion's roar the yard the lions roaring and unfortunately this seemed like a little bit of a fluke didn't it does seem like you don't sack and he pulled on the ankle and the account i got from carolina from talking to someone today is expected to be okay for the opener so so fingers crossed charles davis our guests. You can follow me on twitter at c._f._d. Twenty two all right charles. This may be a first. I in all the interviews you've ever done. You're ready oh boy. This is gonna be interesting. I can feel this way. Can i ever sat down now. Okay i'm going to ask you another question and your answer is going gonna be. I don't know you're okay. Last night. We watched the packers. Raiders play in winnipeg apparently an hour before the game it was viewed as the field is unsafe unsafe because they couldn't tamp down the spot in the end zone where the goalposts work because they were taken out with the canadian field being longer so they had to shorten the field raiders packers plan an eighty yard field the ten yard ten yard line is the beginning of the goal line the goal lines the end of the end zone no kickoffs so they everybody starts the ball in the fifteen yard line so i ask you charles davis. How does this happen. I dunno dorthy idea jason. I mean you would think that in our legal right and i think our because we're all part of in some form or another right rather than just simply say. Not your parents were like when you got in trouble. One parent would say that your child pass you off when you've got trouble so i don't wanna do that because we all cover it. We all love it the whole deal. We had mexico city last year. The game get moved. You know what saved everything was. It was such an incredible game right. The rams kansas city that game but not been a good game. We'd still be talking about what happened with the field of changing things right they kinda. They got bailed out on that one. Go back years ago. Veterans day member hard knocks on the ravens wouldn't playing free season because of the old veterans stadium field baseball football that we we we had that we had the hall of fame game what two years ago when they painted it raw incorrectly and now the field will go up. I you know i don't understand it. I would like to know a little bit more and if you're going to take a game to winnipeg you would think you would send your people up because i just give you one quick example. I went to do a show years ago. In green bay and there's a training camp shop and the packers had decided to have one practice at the old city stadium fields all right before lambeau was built that is now a high school field as part of a high school. They're all right and the packers in advance sent their grounds crew rover and worked on the field for months ahead of time to make sure it was right for one practice so that high school at the end of the day get a precede the n._f._l. Field to play on for the rest of their season because the packers put the time in for one practice to make sure there guys were okay. You think you'd want to do that and make sure you're right is the league. If you're gonna go places now. I don't have all the parameters so i'm going to be very careful here. This is i think i think there was an independent contractor. Move this game right so maybe someone else's quote unquote responsible. If i were the league and i would say this in front of the commission everyone and he could get mad at me and you can do whatever all i would say is. Here's my question if this is our product if this is your product and n._f._l. Product would you wanna have some. I falls on the field ahead of time to know what you're dealing with the question off saying i'm just i'm just really blown away by it all because i can't understand how this game was on the books muslim the they can't get it. They can't get it done. <hes> one person who's getting today. Lucky bucky real quick before we move on on from that you guys mentioned the navy yard field no kickoff the whole thing markdown that ball game because if we get to the point in the league and you know there's momentum in that direction that the kickoff may go away from football finger to ever you ever that never that night is a preview sleeping on over here that is a the bigger play <hes> speaking of plane. I can't let you go without talking about daniel jones and what you've seen from the preseason. What do you think a lot of people that took shots at the jazz took him. I missed six overall but he's been nothing short of spectacular for the giants. Yeah i didn't take. I didn't take a shot at 'em but i didn't advocate it. I'm not going to sit here and get revisionist history. I think we were all in the same camp when they took him at six and we're in and it's one of those things. Won't you save bucky in terms of drafting last five years or so. We're we're if you're locked in on a guy and you're gonna take him. Let's say in the first round but it's at six and you'd rather have admit commit but you take him at six to make sure you get him. We don't have the same look at people the way we used to. Do you say that about five years or so now they it does they're willing to do. It doesn't wanna change because it wasn't always used to be. If you're a top pick you had to be a guy that everyone universally sleep viewed you as that but the giants targeted there they saw them as they're and they're willing to kind of stand up to all the criticism came with it and right now they can do a little mini victory. The jury lapthorne precedes white then they ever they do the mini victory lap everyone a yankee stadium booed him when he was on the big screen right now is cheering him. You remember that when faced popped up but you know that's a right of passage remember trubisky when he went to chicago went to a bowl game and got booed at the both days it just what happens when when they take you in a spot it's unexpected and then the other part is my favorite is when he took his family out-priced cream right after the draft. You heard that story story right for the guy the guy scooping ice cream and he's like daniel jones six who thought that was a good idea and then was like. Can i get a double chocolate of adela and so somewhere the ice cream guys like wow jones is pretty good but one more time preseason okay playing well if nothing else dave gettleman of the giant g._m. Pat shurmur and crew have to feel good that yes. We are on the right track ally. I still gotta start the season. We know that we get it but this kid looks like the real deal. I've just very hesitant to go all out because we've seen great preseason. Turn it into bad regular season. We've seen bad represents turned into great regular seasons but they're definitely on the right track and what you guys said is apropos. You know committee victory lap right now by the way no one's questioning him going at six at this moment. Are there no not at all. You can follow me on twitter at c._f._d. Twenty-two c._f._d. Twenty-two charles davis c._d. Always my friend appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much. Thanks a lot guys great stuff there from charles davis again. If you just just tune in <hes> he said the people spoke to in carolina think cam newton should be ready for week one so it looks like a huge crisis averted for carolina but as far as daniel jones goes bucky you can't talk about daniel jones in what he's done with vying for the starting job without getting into baker mayfield and what he's had to put up with with over the course of this week. You had the g. q. Article that came out on tuesday an interview baker mayfield did earlier in the spring in which he questioned the giant selection of daniel jones at six saying. I can't believe the giants did that. At some point you have to look at winning and daniel. Jones didn't win at duke now. This wasn't something he said back. Tabacchi gave his opinion opinion about the giants taking daniel jones and then mentioned daniel jones by name. He called daniel jones to apologize. Daniel jones said all the right things. Bakers are great player. I'm focused on me last night after another great performance after the game daniel jones is actually asked by a reporter. Do you think mayfield deserve to go number one overall. I don't know i mean i think <hes> yeah i mean these he. He added good season last year. I think he's he's good. Meanwhile while this is happening. Eli manning is often the corner putting on his shoes and getting dressed and no one's even talking to him. It's not a great optic if you're eli manning thing in the future is all me but this i look at these two quarterbacks acce the past week daniel jones and baker mayfield and i watched daniel jones say and do all the right things when it came to this controversy with baker mayfield and this is part of being a quarterback in new york. How do i handle the press. How do i handle distractions. How do i handle the media and not make something a story and daniel. Jones did so many great things. This week showed a lot of leadership already ready. His teammates evan ingram became to his defense saying hey daniels great baker mayfield runs his mouth and so we learned a lot about daniel jones but as far as baker mayfield goes i. I think you can be on either side of baker. Mayfield is someone who is changing the moldova quarterback. He's going to speak his mind all the time. Whether you believe that he was outta line talking about daniel jones or not just one thing has gotten has come clear with me. As far as baker mayfield in in the past few days is that eventually his mouth is going to get him into trouble double trouble that you can blow off because it's the preseason and everything is great and everybody loves you because you're the savior cleveland. The guy can't let any controversy gogoi. He's got to weigh in on everything and when you're when you're the quarterback at oklahoma okay that's fine. If something happens you don't play well the next five star guys coming into play and if he thinks the next five star guy is coming in you're now the quarterback with n._f._l. Team and you have to drop the chip on your shoulder that all you know. Everybody underestimated me because i wasn't from you know. All all i've done is win. Duty were the number one overall pick in the draft in the n._f._l. Draft you won the heisman trophy. You can't play this dog and you're not the underdog but he wants to win because he has. Is this chip on his shoulder. He wants to win whether it's duke johnson's contract situation or sam etlinger beating the quarterback in texas. He couldn't beat my high school. I at some point you gotta just like i say it all the time you gotta let the pitch go by. You can't swing it. Everyone know and unfortunately what he's done is he's made himself. I don't wanna say their million people that i love him but he's also made himself public enemy number one and so they're a million people that are waiting on their downfall and he talked about how everyone is hoping for the browns to lose whatever because it went from being maybe a nice story a celebrate the browns browse finally appear to get it right odell beckham junior jarvis landry get kareem hunt man. They're loaded. Would it just be a fun team to watch bakers. Come great year and then you thought that he would take a step back. The maturity we kinda kick in and he would just a look. I'm franchise quarterback and make sure that i kind of do my deal and he hasn't. He's engaged in these things that you do what you to starting quarterback of the cleveland and browse like you don't need to get in a muck and deal with sam etlinger. You don't need to have these conversations about one of your teammates. Do johnson doesn't know everyone should know that like like you in the locker room. Don't talk about another man's money. <hes> then when you talk about dinner jones in a g. q. magazine with it was unnecessary like he you can say is taken out of context but he can't say that he didn't say it. He did say it regardless of the context. Let it go you can't you can't weigh in on everything and i know we can put the blame on reporters reporters. Ask questions but it doesn't mean that you have to offer up an answer. We talk about coachspeak. We've seen a million quarterbacks. Tom brady included. They give you these generic answers. How do you feel about is great player. He's just next to the next west breath. At some point baker mayfield we either learn to become one of those guys that can speak in coach speak or he's gonna make it difficult for him because he's always donkey coyote by wim meals. He can't fight every battle. I i understand to appoint sometimes young player getting lawson interview like is this this atmosphere was. He meets the reporter at a steakhouse so you're sitting down you know music's playing. You're talking talking just having a conversation sport center's on and you're you're riffing on daniel jones and you just you're somebody who is just ask their opinion about something so you say it and i get that it's not you know it's on the record but you don't think it's gonna come out the way it does and then here's a guy from q. Who doesn't care what you say. You have to worry about. <hes> you know <hes> mentioned this yesterday with with t._j. Hassanzadeh who said he doesn't have to come back in the locker room later on this year and worry about getting interviewed baker he's got. He's got what we need it right here. I'm done and so you don't understand that how things can get out of control but just the fact that you can say hey i was shocked at the giants took daniel but the fact that he he wants to talk about this and and desire to let it go do like at some point focus on the main thing like he has to really focus on the gig because no matter what like it was a magic carpet ride last year. Everything broke his way he jumped in here. Freddie kitchens had a great connection action and they lit it up but the second year typically is a little different when defense coordinators get the film and they're able to study the fence and study you throughout throughout the off season. They come out with different pitches. How do you respond. If i'm baker mayfield. I am trying to focus more my efforts on how am i going to deal with. The adjustments invested going to come to my game. What can be my answers for when they start the win sliders in knuckle balls and changeups at me. He has to focus more on that the other stuff. He's already won. He's already won. He was the number one pick when people say that he wanted to heisman trophy when people say he couldn't do it he has jumped in cleveland cleveland franchise and seemingly turned it around. He has already won so there's nothing that he has to do outside in the media to justify invalidate himself just play. I just don't know if he's wired in a way where he can just go play without all the white noise in the background and as long as they win things will be great. Things will be awesome but when they hit adversity because they're going to happen. They'll you'll lose to three hundred it's going to happen. That's when it's gonna wind up blowing up to louis credit. He may be again. It feeds off of that and there's certain people that feed off of like i have to keep this going because it allows me to stay razor razer locked in like laser focus but man it just creates this stuff that not only he asked answer for but freddie kitchens has to answer your teammates teammates have to answer these questions it just creates more stuff around the program within you couple that with him and with oh billy dale beckham junior who commands a lot of attention in in the process of whatever there's just a lot of stuff that's gonna be floating around the cleveland browns and it's going to take them showing a level of maturity that i don't know if they have to get through it twitter at how about a fresca got bucky at bucky brooks. Jason smith bucky brooks in for dan and the danettes today fox sports radio in sports. A trade can make or break your team. It's no different when it comes to selling or trading in your car. You need to make good choices and truecar. 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I'm just waiting for get busy just waiting for fox sports radio. <hes> jason smith show is my show at night with mike. Harmon bucky brooks in n._f._l. Network hanging out today he's on twitter at bucky brooks twenty two and yeah. This is my jamming you kidding back in high school. You get to a party and my prerogative comes on everybody stops. Everybody just does the dance every <hes> that's this. This was is the jam every time this came on. It was like yeah no matter what was going on in the world. Stop stop by prerogatives on. We're gonna do something. We're gonna do something good. I had to use throwback language because you know this song is almost thirty years old perogatives. How about that my scoop thirtieth high school reunion this year <hes> you going. I don't know you you have to go do come on. You're the t._v. Star man you play the national football league. Do you have to get a new to get a new suit for that is that are we can rely. Hey i just got off the plane. I just decided to throw in a little some you show up in shorts and a t-shirt dodd bucky brooks yeah yeah you see me on tv. I'm on tv every day on the radio too yeah yeah n._f._l. You think everybody lied up to talk to you about stuff. He be the guy where they go all all right. So what do you think about the panthers this year. What do you think about that. Everyone is lined up to ask you questions and that's how it would go. That's how it is when i go back for vacation like my family says hey what about what about the arizona. Who who do i draft. We're draft so and so in fantasy. What do you think about baker mayfield and i gotta do a show. I gotta do a show with them because that's what my family wants but you walk in you like the conquering hero man shaima people this but i think you already do that on facebook right. Is it facebook a little little bit of your brag session when you oh look at me. I'm at that's instagram. You brag on on the ground on the ground had to work more. This'll be you you in person and i know how how many how many girls are you curious about. Whatever happened to her. After whatever happened to her. I remember when i asked her to the prom junior year here she didn't want to go. I wonder years is a long time. I say the eighteen year old crushes. They don't look the same fifty. They don't look the same like i've seen a season. I'll see someone some photos like. I don't know like we got a month. Uh-huh oh yeah we got we got a month to get on the stairmaster in elliptical machine i don't i don't know you know well good luck in any event. Good luck you can always just hang out outside and look in the window. You can just leave. Gotta like that guy that guy. I know i'm just gonna. I'm not i'm not coming. I decided not to <hes> aw hey the latest on ezekiel elliott. <hes> we saw yesterday report come down that he turned down the cowboys offer cowboys wanted to pay him between twelve and twelve and a half million dollars a year which would put him right with todd gurley end levy on bell turning. This down obviously means he wants more than that. He wants wants todd gurley type money which means he wants to be. The highest paid running back in the n._f._l. Things not is everything is great. We'll get all these deals done as it was a couple of weeks ago so so i look at this where neither dak nor zeke is going to quote take less right. This is their first big deal. They're not going to take less the only way i could see this. Come out is is that is at the end. Zeke is going to get whatever close to money. He wants whether he actually gets fourteen million or close to it. He's going to get it and they're gonna you have to franchise deck if he wants forty someone i mean the cowboys you have to cut everybody so this is how i see it as zeke's get paid and then dax gonna get franchised and that's how how things are going to go from here to deals that so you're trying to get the deck deal done first and the reason you want to give that done to make sure you have him locked up. I think ideally of the guys that can wait. You can make zeke weight because zeke has two years left on his yeah. He doesn't have any recourse. He can't do anything he can't go anywhere. Dak has to beat a priority because dax in the last year of his deal and we can talk about a we can put him on a franchise tag next year but i think if you're already in and you know this is your guy you pay him the money you get him in. You make sure that he's comfortable when he gets to the regular season. I believe this deal. The deck deal gets done before the regular season with zeke. I think it depends on what he's haggling. Over is the annual <hes> payout meaning that that puts him over todd gurley or is it. The fully guaranteed money. I would think that as a running back fully guaranteed money. That's where our really kinda spin dig my heels yeah. I want this amount over this much. I wanna make sure that his guaranteed against all the other stuff and so we'll see how structured the dallas cowboys wanted to keep all the guys in the fold. They've said they want to pay those guys. All within its but look is business and we've seen that jerry jones does not mind negotiating. He likes to banter the back and forth and at some point point they'll get a deal done. They just like going through the exercise of negotiating this deal in the medium. Well i think also jerry jones kind of misappropriated the loyalty fee to the dallas cowboys he expected from dak and ziegler. He could tell he could tell zeke. I tried to get the commissioner five to keep you eligible the play and they're like yeah. That's great. You're still gonna pay me yeah. I mean he's he's still has to get paid. I think it works like the loyalty and the brand thing works more with deck then with zeke. We've we've already seen deck as a national face and campaigns <hes>. I think he just did like a direct t._v. Ad we've seen with the yogurt we've seen and do other things. He is yeah campbell soup right now. He is a star because he wears a star on his helmet and i think he understands the extra stuff that it brings however i also think he understands you. Guys take on the chief for three years so for everyone that's complaining about dak getting maybe thirty million dollars understand that they've had an nineteen twenty twenty five million dollar discount at the quarterback position because he played for a million dollars so when the going rate for starting quarterback who's twenty three twenty four twenty five million the dallas cowboys pocket a lot of savings it is now time for them to kind of sweeten the pot and make sure maybe they overpay him for what he's done those first couple of years because you can't say if you are his representatives. He's gotta get less than kirk. Cousins is going to be going to get less than jimmy garoppolo. You gotta get more than those those guys. I gotta get significantly more than those guys because i have more accomplishment than those guys look it starts for me starts with carson wentz <hes> he can look the people hate this comparison because carson wentz quote unquote played an m._v._p. 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10 Takeaways From Week 7 & Why Sean Payton should be Coach of the Year

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

38:30 min | 1 year ago

10 Takeaways From Week 7 & Why Sean Payton should be Coach of the Year

"And now move the sticks the ten takeaways cast with Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks and a man Tuxedo shirt in win wearing sweatpants rent Lewis Ohio was yes he does we have evidence there it is right there ride snap back to Ryan on second intent pressuring his face this time he'll eat it back at the twenty one Dante Fowler missed on wow I have pretty revolutionary take here it's pretty revolutionary it's a deep football thought but if you cannot get in her at it but it's clearly not where it needs to be just yet and the two words slash one phrase that I have after watching this game is I drive this time he made sure to Rag Ryan down so Dante three sacks in this game earned donald had one and I wrote this like if this is the type of passing the production that the packers are capable of now with this leflore offense everyone's laws they can't Russia the quarterback and if you can't rush the quarterback I don't care if if you put Brett farve out there with a bunch of highschool receivers he is going to torture you and that's exactly what he that's Aaron Rodgers and I went with the with the city of Roger that receivers now they get motioned dead now they found a way to spread it around but if you look at all the big plays in this game the pockets were pristine they just couldn't get the rogers yeah didn't Max crosby get him once so he's a good player she was going to keep us rolling here and I'll go to the rams and their defense helping to stem the losing on here from one hundred twenty four yards yesterday almost six yards of pop and a couple of those he made him dudes miss in a big way multiple times on the same play so there you go the pressure on Aaron Rodgers you will get torched and this was a scenario of a of a raiders team I think a good football team with one fatal flaw in that fatal is not wise definitely still have a long way to go in in terms of upping their pass rush production despite the selection of the Cleveland feral and then crosby and those guys I mean look they're getting Farside pylon three yard touchdown pass Eric Harris Beaten on the play the packers extend to thirty four seventeen lead going to be in trouble because the packers are eighteen to be reckoned with in that now I will say the one thing that will save for the raiders. Dj on the bright side just Jacobs looks like the Real Josh Jacobs Oh left guard you're not the only one that's been beaten multiple times in a game by Aaron Donald maybe except for Alex Mack got beat a bunch of times I was I was watching these sacks I go right tackle got one left guard got one all right guard right tackle again left tackle Jake Matthews you have some two and then GonNa join us in just a few minutes here but we can get started on the takeaway I'll start us off ten takeaways let's start here with a guy who had probably the best performance of the weekend on here you definitely unbelievable sweatpants that is unacceptable by the way I love you know what like to keep it comfy no draft at home falcons offensive line and so the Saxon were one thing the turnovers were another thing the rams the team had been minus three in the turnover differential crosby's and then did the discount double check after it and then it was like Oh that's GonNa that's GonNa come back to bite you my friend but yeah it looks like the raiders baby yeah that's right he looks like the right here I'm not getting as much grief about about that great for some reason a lot of people that are in the draft process like give me some grief in their three game losing streak in this game they flip it to plus three so you know they had Jalen Ramsey come up with the force fumble on Devante Freeman so look their defense stepped up in a big way you answer me this do you buy into the fact that if you're if you're a player in that defense or player that rams in general and you see your front office go out and make a move like that to bring in one of the elite players in football and Jalen Ramsey that that hasn't Then you had to strip sacked from Aaron Donald and then you had the turnover late in a game that ended up in a touchdown I think it was a special teams play right was a punt return yeah they're rolling right now in Minnesota Rhett and they've really when I just look for words act on you in a way especially on defense if you're a player on that side no I think it shows you that you're in you know gives you I think there's just a sense of urgency there that now you've seen a guy who obviously always had the ability is really blossoming in a new environment there with the ramp so I would imagine somebody will do it I don't imagine it'll fetch a big return there but man it's so now he's got ten touchdowns one pick over the last three games our in the ball up in the air each game he's gone over three hundred yards the the average yards per temp eleven point this we already have all the that we already have all the other jewelry such good it's already it's already not all right buddy this might be the most complete team in the NFL you might be right because we saw what they're capable of the run game early on and now I feel like it's just it's just you don't want to get it gets drafty sometimes with the AC on Gosh great but we're going to have to have Canaan Iron Habitat it's time to get rolling and let's be honest if you WANNA get role on a trip to to Atlanta's pretty good place to start I mean once again no sacks for this team I mean they they hit the quarterback hey this is our time now we might have sacrificed a little bit in the future with this with some of these draft picks but this is this is our time right now we're coming off a super bowl parents always been such a hallmark of of what the when the Vikings are good that's what they're doing well and when cousins is playing well they're doing that well also so I think we have to message did Mike Zimmer kind of loosen the grip on saying hey let's run run run awfully darn coincidence but it has changed enough they can get after you in the run game and they've got pass rushers they've got a secondary with a lot of depth and talent there I just think when you're talking about complete football teams with kirk cousins playing like this three times which is gives them four total quarterback hits over the last three weeks and then you just talked about it with the first point with the raiders. If you can't get after the quarterback it's impossible live nature throwing the ball down the field I mean like I go back to late in the game and it's a it's like a short yard situation and they get Stefan digs free down the field in cousins takes that shot and they get it and they convert you know that's really interesting to me play action is back obviously I mean that's eleven point five nine point nine so they're getting big explosive chunk place they can run the ball with Alvin Cook obviously the past game works well off that they've got a front that's physical it's those comments were made it absolutely has an Kirk is playing you liked that kirk cousins like he's playing with that type of confidence and that type of aggressive Formula I'm telling you right now it's not about Josh Allen passing yards completion percentage touchdowns or even rushing yards it's when he doesn't turn the ball over go to Minnesota and there's balance in the force Adam feeling motions to the right hand off those two madison no bootleg cousins to win in this league it's just not going to happen and Vic Beasley apparently he's been told he's on the trading block but like who's that WHO's going to go out how would I describe this football team that's why I use the word balance I think when you look at what they're getting out of the passing game now especially since Kirk cousins was Kinda cold out of the last they turned it over three times so they lost three fumbles so that is that is clearly the formula and I'm telling you if he doesn't go if he doesn't make to really bad decisions they are always going to be in a position to win because their defense plays lights out and then he makes enough big plays to let them win big games now as you mentioned with the balance it's become more impressive and I was at the comments was it was it Adam feeling and stuff on digs or did Stefanski Patricia was really worried about our smith like they were really impressed with what he he'd been doing and look and let's say for cousins this is back to back games here where you're starting to chip away at that narrative a little bit about not playing well versus good teams you know say what you want about the eagles now we've seen them take a little bit of a downturn but that had been that'd be a good football team in the Lions Gel for Adam feeling with that hamstring injury that keeps him out I think there are short week this week on a Thursday night football taking on the redskins so that's the rookie IRV Smith turnovers means no problems for the bills I down at the twenty Josh takes a snap looks buyer straight down the middle of this tax down down spoke it's definitely helped get the rams back on the right track no question and get their offense and jared goff playing at a high level they've they've got a chance to make a deep run all right let's go to the next one here let's see all right you're going to get us to the next takeaway here and let let's let's go to the AFC east where no Josh Allen he's going to go out and spend a bunch of resources for guy who can't get any pressure then do anything that doesn't do anything confirm that they've they've made those calls so I mean are there on three interceptions against the Patriots we can be talking about the bills being undefeated right now that's their loan loss that's how good they can be when he takes care of the football I'm an opportunity to win big games but when he doesn't turn it over that is the secret I went back went back and looked at it all seventeen games that he started he's only been cleaned in the Inter option column in six of those seventeen games they've won five of those six games and in that sixth one that they didn't win when he didn't throw an interception the team as a team ajay sharp the chargers rushed to drop nine inside the red zone and give up a wide open touched how does that happen a coverage bus there pass attempts I guess I should say yeah was discussed by Adam few on his too fond digs its office has gone to a whole new level it just look at the look at the logs here since that was a Chicago game right you know what I think for sixty getting him involved in listening to the broadcast the The broadcast team is talking about in their meetings with Matt Patricia like there has been a quarterback upgrade in Nashville Tanna Hill from the shotgun snap looks fires count in the middle caught nice twice end up coughing up to lose it man celebrate two game winning touchdown yeah on the field on the Asian time was just much quicker there than with Marcus Mariota he was just trusting is getting the ball out charges a lot zone coverage and he was able to just find isn't all right we'll get to the game I was at one of the wildest finish that I've ever ever seen alive football game but we'll get to the finish here in a second let's start with one thing here game moving up and down the field but it was have you ever seen an ending like that we have you ever seen like that you know when you think you've scored you know you don't keep both teams in the football Preston Williams for them the rookie out of Colorado would have been drafted if not for some character concerns is really made some place for also and and really kind of attack this group down the field working in the middle of the field a bunch there was one I mean the touchdown was one of the touchdowns that wasn't the one we just heard right there on the a great question but the offensive line they had some Some issues there conklin got hurt and and Joey Bosa was was really getting after Dennis Kelly there on the edge but I thought Tannahill are there a bunch of interesting he's the only thing the only thing well the only thing you would think of is if you look at Fowler Right Fowler hadn't that's true become the best I wanted him to be in Jacksonville they're really good football team this year even though the record doesn't quite support it especially secondary yeah so look I think you're going along way to kind of chipping away at that thing if your cousin business also wanted just the nicest human beings you'll ever meet but what a weird game and we'll get to the finish here right but the start with Tannehill Tannehill to me the the was in relationship to the goal line and I didn't think that would be a return but okay museum yeah yeah yeah I just sideline Matt Money Smith had some incredible costs wasted ever heard oh all but no I mean they have I thought and he's not even moving like the Jeffrey Simmons we saw at Mississippi State and still a huge impact on this just the beginning that penetration Colombo's again and I did ask Anthony Lynn after the game what the plan was if he didn't get in with the time remaining would you have spiked it right just kick the field goal to go to overtime and he said goal line I mean holy smokes that Scofield that he took back like that I think he got scofield on one he might have got Fini on another one for pretty bad pretty bad group swipe play slows day Buffalo's defense yep he's he's just a great player you know exactly what you're going to get from him all day consists yeah he just continued to kind of hang in the pocket and you need a lot of big throws and when that when that team with the way they should be able to run the ball which they were able to get Derrick Henry going a little bit when you get Ryan it was bizarre then Melvin really fumbled twice Melvin Gordon fumbled the one it was just a matter of whether or not his knee was down before he fumbled and then sure enough Mississippi state and then this is a big just a powerful powerful human being I don't think he's necessarily even football shape but I think once he is in football shape you really see your last week saying Oh Jeffrey Simmons is going to practice this week we may seem in a couple of weeks I did not expect them to be activated and so I think John Robinson it looks like it's going to end up working out pretty well here for the titans that's going here big Sunday night football game Dak Delivers Darwin in motion go now Mike Keith on the call there for the titans who is not only one of the best play by play guys in the aside for Tennessee can we go back and talk about Jeffrey Simmons for a minute he was great on the crazy thing is that's not even the best version of Geoffrey left to right now motion from right to left from Amari Cooper Prescott play action rolling right pumping he's GonNa run Prescott to the five dives in for the touchdown line but got a big back go create some space and just was not able to do that but the fumbling you can't I mean that just can't happen yeah no I'm with you on that on the floor the hill throwing for three hundred twelve yards and a couple touchdowns it's a good football team that defense is outstanding actually thought it was the Best Philip rivers had played all year long yet he had a good if it's Patrick Ryan Fitzpatrick will always keep both teams in the game that's one he's on a good team or he will hand no Wi fi I land and I and I pop up my phone and it's like okay boom you know cowboys thirty seven to ten they smashed them and I know that yeah I was actually Kinda surprised Miami was able to put up yeah that's right is they did and they did him at twenty one they're fits fits is always going to fit one thing about John do you WanNa talk about teams formula to win we talk about that a lot here on the move the sticks they have therefore have the overall pick knowing they weren't going to get him for half the season he's had good he was a top five picture your five pick if he's not injured so I mean it was her on the touchdown pass on the replays that we were looking at I didn't think it was conclusive enough where they could overturn that because he had the ball real tight you couldn't the football we're back type throws I saw Mark Cooper winning one on one once in spectacular fashion on a double move and other times track deep ball over the shoulder but it was uh it's interesting because body type wise he even looks a little different he was he looked a little bit leaner did and move really they had fade cold so they would have had time to get on one more fate up probably to Mike Williams if he doesn't catch it you still have a couple of seconds left you come out there and kick the field goal so the biggest salvator of all time Oh yeah look at the X. Oh we've got how deck Prescott may just put this one away thirty six to ten as Prescott takes it in from the percents right the fake the jet sweep rogers drums throws left side of the end some spots down lunging grabbed the windows down the field now a lot of tight window throws what I saw in this tape were three guys at Adak Prescott making big time throws like top ten and even lean out a little bit more and you'll see him with more first step explosiveness this Ross strength and power on display I think you're absolutely right because like when we were in spot them fourteen points on to turn overs the ad that got her fumble and then you had the wind strip put it on the ground took fourteen points right right off the bat off those Mr Premier player playing a premier level and then I saw Zeke Elliott even when he got some room here and there but he created his own room he made people miss he finished runs and to take advantage of that offensive line of the eagles. Now the other thing I'll say is really you can't come into Dallas in a game like this Oh boy showed up in this game no question and I think you've got to include demarcus Lawrence in that too because he made life very difficult for Johnson in whenever side he ended up lining up in that kind of made everything else go and then I go flip on the tape and say look you know actually the eagles were able to get some pressure on Prescott this was not an just an easy game yards after contact so I saw a big time game it's the old Dion Sanders thing right big time players make time police and big time games I thought the stars no

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Fifth-Year Options Picked Up & Declined from 2017 Draft

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

40:16 min | 10 months ago

Fifth-Year Options Picked Up & Declined from 2017 Draft

"Hey what's going on everybody? Welcome to another edition of the move. The sticks podcast. I'm right Lewis in four. Dj Today alongside my Guy Bucky Brooks Bucky. What's happened to man we are? We're working our way further and further away from the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft which means we are closer and closer to the twenty twenty one nfl draft. That seems weird. To say doesn't that's preferred to look at it like look. Twenty is in the rear view right through the windshield and man. Twenty twenty two twenty one. Yeah talk about quarterbacks and excitement and guys and all of that other stuff like we have plenty of time to talk about it this summer but it looks like it will be very easy to keep listeners. Engaged with quarterbacks talk about next season yeah no question and I think I speak for just about everyone planet earth. We cannot wait to get rid of twenty twenty as fast as we is has been one heck of a year man and we're still right in the midst of it but we're GonNa make the best of it here and look at. It also turns out to be a year in which we unfortunately one of the legends. Not just of the NFL but of the game of Football Don Shula passing away this week. The coach of the Miami Dolphins and guided them the only perfect season we've ever seen in. Nfl history seventeen in NFL title Super Bowl Championship and the Patriarch Bucky of the first family of football coaches. Both of Don's sons Dave and Mike both coach and super bowl his dave son. Chris has coached in a super bowl. They've had generations of Shula coach in a super bowl. I mean this is a family unlike unlike any other that we've seen in the NFL and And we lost a great man and a great coach and the stories have been pouring in the tributes have been pouring in bucket you entered the league and and Kinda right in the midst of of the Don Shula Heyday there. Yeah it was crazy about it. I actually have a a game ball somewhere in garage. Maybe my parents house where I fumble recovery was actually against the Miami Dolphins special teams back to the Miami Dolphins and Don. Shula three things that come to mind excellence. Perfect season most wins of any. Nfl Coach in history. I think about consistency. Thirty three seasons on the sideline only two losing seasons source wanting to be excellent of. But it's another thing to be consistently in the hunt always Kinda in range to be able to compete for the title. And then the last thing is adaptability the adaptability that he displayed going from Baltimore whereas pounded with those players. Running the ball. Earl Merle Come into Miami. Then is the Miami Powell machine. Larry CSONKA Chik Mercury. Morris. You had two quarterbacks and Bob Greasy and being able to have the the no name defense moving onto the killer bees when I was like a like I wasn't even a teenage maybe ten eleven twelve then changing the style with Dan Marino. And those guys and throwing it all over the yard. Good coaches put players over system and Don Shula was the master of being able to assess the situation and then put in a scheme that enabled his guys to play at his best. So excellent adaptability insists those things come to mind when I think about don show man. That's a great way to put it and like I. I unfortunately never had a chance to meet Don. But I've met his Dave who obviously we know as a coach with his dad and Miami Through some of the super bowls and then went on to coach the Cincinnati. Bengals is now the wide receivers coach. Believe at Dartmouth with buddy evens. Got Back into coaching in the last couple of and you can see the type of person that Don Shula was by by meeting the other members of his family. I think a man that was built for others that love to engage others and an organiser was a guy who brought people together talking about Dave here. I saw him every summer at the manning passing academy and I just I loved being around him he loved. He loved coaching wide receivers. You Love Coaching the young kids. I think that's probably why he got back into it. And I think everyone that Kinda came through there and had a chance to spend some time with David was better for it and then I had the chance to meet his son. Chris who kinda worked his way up was a graduate assistant. Mile will moderate Indiana under Kevin Wilson and then jumped into the league and ended up being an assistant position coach with the rams worked his way up to a full time assistant coach. Now with the Rams says the outside linebackers coach there for Sean McVeigh. So like he's just a a you know it's a family that understands what football is all about the understands what relationships are all about and I think that that is a credit to their the patriarch of that family and dawn and I think his legacy will obviously go on forever here in the NFL and in NFL circles and his thought highly of. I don't know anyone who does not think of Don Shula in the highest regard. So certainly our condolences to his family in thoughts. Go out to them as they as they mourn the loss of a great great man so with that guy. Let's let's move on here on the six podcast here and one of the bigger news. Items in the last couple of days was one eighty getting released by the Cincinnati Bengals Bucky. Obviously one one move that we expected little bit unexpected though to see him sign so quickly with a team in which he doesn't have a clear path to the starting job at least in the near term. It would seem so to two ways. You can look at this as a surprise one that well the cowboys got an actual another starting caliber backup quarterback and then the other piece of it is wonder Andy settled. I guess for that kind of role. Do you look at it. That way at all. No I don't I don't look at it as dead. I think there are a couple of things that are at play with the Dallas Cowboys. Making this move So often we we view the backup quarterback position. We don't necessarily give it the value that it needs because a lot of times if it goes down we just kind of throw away. The team's chances of being able to compete at a high level for the Dallas Cowboys. I think this is insurance. This is like insurance on your whole. No one wants to pay the premium but then when the House has a catastrophe you'd certainly want to cash in on the policy. The Dallas Cowboys. Were able to get something that you rarely able to get. That is a backup quarterback who can actually play regardless of what you think about Andy Dalton in the last couple of years to fall out for the Cincinnati bengals kind of collapsing. The last three years the first five years of his NFL career he led to Bingos into the playoffs. He had the third most wins of any quarterback during that period The first five years starting quarterback and when he is surrounded by a very good supporting cast Andy Dawn absolutely came Wayne Games. When he's not he just doesn't have the talent to elevate an average squat without a playmakers on the outside and that is fine. I think in this situation what you have for the cowboys is insurance against Dak Prescott. Getting injured insurance against a long drawn out Hold out or or it's not even a holdout. Whatever he just doesn't show if he doesn't sign and come to camp on time and you have an opportunity to take a team that on paper looks very very talented and at least be very competitive team a team. That can win games in a short term. Stretch any dawn as a quarterback. You okay so I should clarify. I meant I wasn't surprised to see the cowboys. Make the move right. That's a little bit surprised to see Andy. Go that route now. Maybe that was the best deal that was out there and he wanted to sign quickly. You want to drag this out for his family in these uncertain times. Let's get in. Let's go go go back home to the state of Texas where he grew up in Katy Texas and played at Tcu and that that tells right sort of make sense right. I guess I just thought that he might have an opportunity to go to a place where a starting job was more in his grasp than like. Okay that gets hurt or doesn't come to camp on like I thought. Maybe you know maybe Jacksonville with Jay groome there. We thought that might be an opportunity right so anyway. So that part of it just surprised me from Andy's perspective a little bit. But I guess seeing the way that this is dragged out for guys like dragged out for Jaimes Winston still going for Cam Newton. Maybe we shouldn't be so surprised in and I. I think I think what Andy Did was took. The security of this deal is all on the table. Let's take it also. Let's understand WHO's coaching Mike McCarthy if I get a chance to get in there Mike McCarthy has enough experience. And how put me in a situation where I can look good? This good jumpstart the second part of my career as a starting quarterback we saw what happened with Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans. Drew brees goes out for five games. Teddy Bridgewater gets stance and LO and behold. Teddy Bridgewater gets an opportunity to be a starting quarterback. Andy Dalton Agree Situation. In that vein. Dak Prescott has been durable. Yes missed start. He's been there just in case he gets hurt. They have a guy who can go in and for Andy standpoint man. What better way to do it into play at home? There's stability because already have a home there. I don't have to worry about like my kids. And changing and all of those things so it is a perfect situation for him to be able to jump in and step in and kind of like make the best of a basset yeah. I think you're right there so like once you dig in. You can kind of see the reasons why and so now the cowboys again this. This is a great opportunity for them to just kind of continue to stack that quarterback room in the event that they end up needing some of that depth there with Andy Dalton. All right so let's move on to one of the other big kind of topics these last couple of days which has been the fifth year option. Game which is due now overdue for the members of the two thousand seventeen draft class. The deadline was Monday for teams to decide whether they would pick up the fifth year option for those players which means the option year. Twenty twenty one right so they were drafted in seventeen. This is the myles Garrett number one overall year and then you play that seventeen. Eighteen nineteen twenty season the fifth year for all those first round picks is an option for the team to decide whether they want to pick up or decline that is then guaranteed for injury only so if a guy gets hurt and can't continue to play. He's on your books no matter what for twenty twenty one if you end up picking that up if you don't they're free agent unrestricted free agent in twenty twenty one right. After this season we saw that happened this past year with Jack Conklin and the titans. They declined to pick up his option after making him a top ten. Pick back in two thousand sixteen. He ends up having a decent year in his fourth year. After a couple of down once following his rookie season ends up signing a huge deal with the Cleveland browns. So having a team decline your option is not a death knell it can in fact be very lucrative windfall for you in fact that was the case for Jack Conklin. We've seen that. We've seen other other teams decide to extend their first round players before they even have to worry about picking up the option. So that this year with Christian McCaffrey. Who was the eighth overall? Pick who was extended and the panthers then didn't have to worry about picking up or declining the option which they obviously would have picked up if they didn't have the extension so let's dig into some of these players here mentioned starting at the top bucky miles. Hold on let. Let's talk like just coming from a a community standpoint. The reason why the fifth year option pickup or the client is a big deal is because in most counting circles people say it takes three to four years to really determine if a player can play really three years because three years. We'll give you forty eight games to be able to look at a player. See how he grows in your system see if he is being able to be a viable contributor. Meaning the thought is if you tear the first round meaning in the top ten the expectation guys drafted in the top ten if you have a top ten greed. You're expected to be guy that kind of falls loosely in the top five or top ten of your position throughout the League at that position. Meaning you should be a high end player at your respective position as we cross reference your talents all around the league from ten to thirty two the expectation. You expect those guys to be solid starters and key contributors meaning. They should be on the field. Seventy seventy five percent of the time if they're rotational players but they should be start as you expect them to be starting lineup. You expect them to start making ways and really kind of solidified themselves as foundational pieces to your franchise and so when you're making these decisions on the option year. A lot of it is. Do we view this player as a foundational piece? Like we can't live without this player. This player has so much value that we have to keep him as a core player as part of a nucleus that is eventually going to put us in a position to win championships and so when teams are making these assessments when they turned down the opportunity to extend them in some way it is a failure it means either. The player didn't work. The SYSTEM DIDN'T FIT. The player is but it's an acknowledgment of A. We might have got this wrong for a number of circumstances and instead of extending trying to make us right. We're just going to move on and see if we can find another player that can give us what we were looking for the position. Yeah and I'm glad you set the table that way that's That's an important perspective. Have as you kind of assess some of these guys that were picked up or or decline here. As I mentioned this is the myles Garrett draft number one overall this look. This was a no brainer pickup for the Cleveland Browns You don't pass up on edge rusher talent that that's why they took him number one overall. Despite what happened at the end of last year I think all can expect myles. Garrett to return to some sort of dominant dej rushing form in which he had for the last couple of seasons. That was that was the no brainer. Right now the next the next four players of that top five I mean. Wow Wow four of the top five players picked in the twenty seventeen. Nfl draft had their options. That means a team again. For whatever reason deciding that they wanted to forfeit the opportunity to keep them under control for a fifth year. That's Mitchell trubisky with the bears traded up one spot with the forty niners to select it number two that Solomon Thomas with the forty niners their number three John. Lynch is I pick as a general manager Leonard Fournette running back from the Jaguars who just had a serious roller coaster type career with the jags and then Corey Davis which was a bit of a surprise. I think to a lot of us. There ended up going number five to the Tennessee Titans. So let's start right there with that. Cluster of players. And then I guess we can kind of role in for the forty niners fact. They came back into the first round and Got Reuben foster their ended up having to cut him for the off. The field issues redskins picked him up his option declined. Also so just to kind of bring that full circle but what sticks out to you there but that top five bucks man. What sticks out to me about this draft in general is just how all over the place we were when it came to those prospects myles. Garrett was a talent I think most people could agree. Mccue talent super explosive. Athlete has some production out. Still say like he was probably drafted on his athleticism more so than his playing ability because he's such a remarkable athlete and Freak Athlete. It is is But it worked out Mitchell trubisky. Bisky is a tough one because Mitchell trubisky has earned a pro bowl ed elation. He's been to a global. He's missed selected for that and people can say as a fans vote or whatever you still You get that the the tough thing and why he is so closely. Scrutinize is because the bears not only moved to get him but they bypass the opportunity to get to Shawn Watson and later Patrick Mahomes. Oh by the way things were picked up you picked and I think the big thing is like the Pat Mahomes thing because I think Panchmahal is actually a hard evaluation because he was talented but he was so i. Guess Sandlot freestyle in his play that it was kind of hard to see how he's going to play because we hadn't really seen a player that came that came into the league with a game like that translate and have Big Time Success. Does Shawn Watson was the one for me. That was tough because this Shawn Watson Mitch. Trubisky played in the same conference against the same players to Shawn Watson not only lead his team to conference championships but he clearly outplayed. Mitchell trubisky was a better player and so for the bears to see something that most of the outside world didn't see that was tough and so because of that he has come under. So much scrutiny. The scrutiny may even exceed how bad he may have performed based on expectation. But it's hard for people to look at him and look into Shawn Watson and Pat Mahomes and say that he is in their same class that quarterback that quarterback draft is a tough one for bears fans to stomach. No question but again. You're right about the Patrick mahomes thing. I don't think anyone mocks or talked about the chiefs flying up from the back of the draft to come up to the tenth spot and take Patrick Mahomes. So you know. It's tough to say all the bears go to take too well yet. They could've but nobody was no-one. No-one knew right in going back. I I'm looking at this thing. That back at the time so I wrote a thing on all pro's pro bowlers stars and on that list there is no pet. Hey I don't have homes listed in pro. I don't have them listed as a pro bowl about two two guys added to position listed. We're Shawn Watson. Had Mitchell trubisky at the bottom of that list so I was like a is a huge miss only and I think the thing With Pat Mahomes. I have notes from scouts that talked to like man to talent is immense but good luck fixing them. Other guys saying man. The talent is crazy like whatever but how would want to draft him and so like. I don't think anybody new and a lot of it. Now is a perfect storm. He went to the right situation with the right coach who was able to tap into his creativity without having to put them on the field early. And then it just were in fabulous player. And I'm not saying that he couldn't do it in other circumstances. Sure but for us. Our imagination didn't allow us to see him as an MVP in Super Bowl win in three years. We just couldn't see that like I mean anyone who says they could see that he would do all these things I mean. I challenged them on what they saw. How anybody could see it translating like that. Yeah I think we could make the argument that Solomon Thomas. Actually had one of his better years as a pro this last year in a rotational role though for the forty niners. And that's probably not something that that the for whatever. That number is for Sally. A number at the fifth year probably not worth it as a rotational player. Right and for a guy that was drafted third overall the whatever like when you drafted and that ranger expected to be to be a takeover player and he hasn't shown the ability takeover. He's been a good player. Not a great player and at that that That where he was taking you expect them to be a great a dominant player like a transcendent type player. He just hasn't been that He EOS coming off a solid year. But if he's still playing import as part of a rotation it's hard to justify paying him what you have to pay them on the fifth year option. Yeah and again you know the forty niners have done pretty well up front since that draft pick. I mean they had you know Eric Armstead deforest Buckner at that point. We were Kinda surprised you know. Like oh wow. Do they go defensive? Line for the third straight year. They ended up doing it and it doesn't end up working out but it does worked out with Nick. Bosa this last year and then perhaps with Japan Kim law this coming year so the last one here that I want to get to as a singular item of the top five is Leonard for net because You know it's just it's a little bit of a mystery to me. He was such a dominant college football player when he was healthy. And I think you could say the same in the NFL when he was healthy and he was right with himself with the team with the offense with the philosophy was a good. It was a good deal for the Jacksonville. Jaguars and ten years is ten games his rookie year. It five a couple more than five hundred yard games. He had one hundred yard game in the playoffs. He was a big part of the offense. He limited the exposure of Blake bortles. And the jags made a run in the playoffs. And and that's what kind of thing you started to expect. And then whatever reason. He ran sideways with Tom. Coughlin and with coaching staff and he had suspensions. And it's all this stuff that I didn't. We didn't talk about a lot leading up to draft as possibily like is this a red flag character. We just I never heard that leading up to the draft and so as a shock to see it it is a shock to see it and I think if we go back and we look at his collegiate career. I think you could probably make the argument that his freshman season at Lsu might have been his best season in terms. Yeah how impactful he was and because he was a right now star. I mean you're captivated by the way to the play toughness. Eddie played how he did the dirty work and all of those things he was. He looked like a much boys when it came to to play that their freshman year. I'm going back. I'm looking at. The numbers actually wasn't a freshman sophomore year. He went for nine thousand nine hundred yards. My Gosh he went for ninety nine hundred and fifty yards and and in his junior year he only had a hundred and forty three yards. And or something hurt. He played seven games. He was her durability things came up and we kind of gave them a bit of a hall pass. But you know what's about that? We did the same thing with Christian McCaffrey. Because Chris McCaffrey's last year was not his best year sophomore year. He was amazing that's when he challenged Barry Sanders record. I think he surpassed is scrimmage yards record or all purpose yards record at Stanford with a ridiculous season that he had and then this final season ankle injury never quite looked right But look he he strung together as a pro. I think the bigger thing is stylistically. Delete has continued shift away from the Lynn for net. Type at running back and quietly Leonard. Fournette has seventy six receptions like but we we still have the vision of him being the one dimensional classic hammerhead running back and he is caught the ball. He just doesn't look like the cameras McCaffrey's in terms of the way that they use them and so it it will be interesting how you plays. I still think he has value but his value is to a team that plays like the Tennessee. Titans a team that is old school grind it out physical football team. He would do well in a in a situation like San Francisco Minnesota I believe he has been hindered by the office of coordinators that Jacksonville. Jaguars have had in place John. Defoe Lippo was not necessarily a grinded out. He wanted to throw it and run it the game through the quarterback running back and so it just makes it so it just makes it tough because I don't know if his talents have been fully utilized but he also has done himself any favors with his behavior so the next kind of group of players that I want to look at it the wide receivers in the top ten I think we I know I was surprised to see Corey. Davis go five. I mean we hadn't seen him workout at all in the run up to the draft. He had the injury so then you had Mike Williams go seven to the chargers and he had a little bit of a back injury concern. You know coming out that last year at Clemson Right. We kind of wondered you know. Might he fall chargers end up picking him at seven and then also picked up his option. He's had some really good years and it kind of seems like he is still on the upward. Climb in his. Nfl career. John Ross for to to get it speed I get it I I missed I missed. I missed on on John. Ross and I missed on him because I thought he was a more complete receiver than he has turned out to be. And also he he wisconsin behind able because he had the shoulder injury that he waited until after workouts. These right worked on so he's always kind of been behind the eight ball but he certainly hasn't been what you would expect a top ten receiver to be. The speed has been there. But he just hasn't made the plays you thought he would. He would be a bigger more impactful Playmaker and it just hasn't worked for him Done in his first but not enough for Corey Davis my biggest issue Corey Davis when he was in the conversation as the number one. Corey Davis played at Western Michigan And lookie came out of nowhere here to really good years those final two years there but in the comparison between Corey Davis and Mike Williams to me might we play against tougher competition and dominated and I felt like if we switch places and put Mike Williams at Western Michigan. He will put up even greater numbers. We put Corey Davis there. Maybe he would do the same thing. And so I had a tough time with that and then when you think about not being able to work out and those things I just worried about it. He's still has talent. He is flashed the connection between him. Marcus Mariota just wasn't there and then this year. Aj Brown Brown's began to Alpha and there's a comfort level with him and Ryan Tanna Hill. Then he just Kinda took over and so you just. Kinda wonder about Corey Davis. He just hasn't played up to expectation. Yeah and just kind of going back and looking at John Ross's career as well your APP. So that was my. That was GONNA be my point. There Corey Davis. I mean we watched. Aj just completely take hold of this. Is that number one which is strange to see for a number five overall. Pick to sit there and kind of let that happen. But that that's the way it is and so now he'll be corey. Davis will be an unrestricted free agent following the twenty twenty season. So on John Rossier. He broke out in a big way. And we kind of forget that we won this past season. Seven balls hundred fifty eight yards and two touchdowns and you're like oh here we go. Here comes John. Ross next week four catches one twelve and a touchdown. Like all right. Here we go. This is the John. Ross that we thought we were going to and then just nothing he gets hurt Mrs ten games or nine games and then you know kind of almost never really heard from again so you know that's kind of been the Mo for for John Rawson. That's a big reason why he does not have his option picked up and so we get half of the top ten having their options declined and you set the table for us at the beginning. Those ten those top ten players are franchise building players. They are franchise player. Plays you count on to to reach your goals. And that's clearly not the case for half of the players in the top ten of the two thousand seventeen. Nfl draft all. I want to single out a couple more here. And then we'll get out of here the one that's that was has been interesting to me. Kinda since. His career came began because we had a mocked sometimes up at number two with the forty niners before they traded. Either I'm talking about me hooker. The safety from Ohio. He had the injury hit the growing the Labor from the hip that I think precipitated his fall to number fourteen in the fifteen in the Indianapolis Colts that year they by the way have declined his option and he was hurt again. He get an acl a second year so his career started with injury. It's continued that way. And I don't know that that has played into his inability to impact that franchise bucky but clearly. They've seen that. They are perhaps preparing to move on. Yeah is weird because he was such a talented athlete. Even when we had urban Meyer come on lashing. He talked about me. Hookers basketball background. How explosive an athlete he was. And when you at a state he had natural ball skills and just picked it up really really quickly and when I look at what he's been able to do for the Colts yes seven interceptions in his career. He has gotten his hands on balls. He has been active and around it. He just hasn't been available twenty seventeen. He missed most of the year. He's missed a handful of games in the following seasons and you just have been necessarily seen it. That's it. The talent is there and if the light comes on you can just see how he could be a really good player. It just for whatever. Reason hasn't fully come on but the dude is talented and certainly worthy of being picked where he was picked he just man for whatever reason like it just hasn't worked and it's really unexplainable. Yeah it was part of some trade Of scuttle around around the draft. Might they be trying to move on from him. beforehand. You know before this season I also I. I don't know that this draft gets the credit but man really good cornerback. Draft Marshon Lattimore at eleven had. His option picked up Dorie Jackson. It's been a really good player for the titans at eighteen. He had his option picked up. You all the way down to Davis White you know arguably the best in the class at twenty seven race no question and then I think during commonly for variety of reasons You know it was kind of bringing up. The rear in that group. Had his option declined by the Texans traded for him last October. You know what the surprise to me this. This whole deal was the tight both of the first round or two all tight ends. I should say in in the first round of this draft. Had their options picked up. I think no shock to see the giants. Pick up on Evan Ingram but the bucks picked up. Oj Howard and the browns picked up David Giokoo especially for the browns after signing Austin Hooper to that contract. I thought those two particular Bucks Picking Up Howard and Browns picking up in who bit of a surprise. Were a bit surprise. Based on the conversation that had come out of their those buildings or leads conversation. And come out of those bills about those guys being Kaunda underachievers based on what we thought they would be coming into the league but The teams picking up the options speaks volumes. About how the those teams viewed him I think in Oj Howard's case He kinda has been viewed as expendable because of a rob Gronkowski thing and I would contend that maybe Rob Gronkowski is kind of like the designated hitter and that lineup where he's going to come in and out of the lineup in stretches not be four-time player for the bucks and Oj. How will have an opportunity to be the OJ Howard that? We thought that he could be in David and jokue. There's no doubt that he's talented. And it'd be interesting to see how they pair up with Hooper. Both guys have similar skill sets but we have seen chemistry fan skiing. The KUBIAK system utilize tied ends effectively. So we'll see what they can come up with twelve personnel package in. Evan Ingram Hampshire and a little bit plane with a younger quarterback a season ago but now he should be ready to rock and when I think about this offense and the weapons that they have he should be a primary in the past. They should really jump around him because his ability to control the middle of the field it shows is shown flashes. I would think that he would be a key. Part of the rebuild. Joe Judge is doing a New York. I mean arguably number one receiver in New York. Not even really. I mean it's kind of been there most talented guy and could be their number one target for Daniel Jones in his second season Let's see I think you could make the argument. Maybe not even an argument here but TJ WATT at thirty two the steelers and Ryan Ramczyk at thirty two the Saints Warranted First Round Selections. Sorry warranted top ten selections in this draft. When you go back and look at it hindsight's twenty twenty but those were terrific value. Picks at the bottom of the round terrific value picks. And you know as one of those things red light we when we talk about it all the time on on path Those guys don't get enough credit like sometimes like those fixed aren't viewed as sexy picks. But they ended up being the best ones. Tj What I remember The challenge was it all kind of came together for him. His last season The production jumped out. You saw him make plays but you just wonder it took a long time for him to pop as as a college player. And why and would you get this in kind of Production as a pro. The degree thing for him I feel like he went to the perfect spot. Because Pittsburgh has always had a knack for being able to find three or four edge rushers and they put them in positions to grow Ryan. Ramczyk was a bit of a surprise. And maybe because he wasn't an athlete. And maybe some of it might have been The Wisconsin Orelon shirt. Where you wonder a is it. Is it really him or do they get coast up? Do they have any more upside? Had they been maxed out? Because Wisconsin's coaches do a great job of really developing their guys to that point and I think sometimes I were autism. Liming Kinda get the same pushback over there kind of Max out because those those staffs have done everything in their power to squeeze out all of the juice out of the player and so maybe he didn't get his fair his just do when it came to his ability to be a a longtime started in a really really good player for the. Yeah and I. I should go back by the way and 'cause I I skipped over Marlin Humphrey at sixteen. Who's been terrific player for the Ravens? That was a really really good corner. About how about how about the class. Humphry Davis White. Adobe Jackson has been good particularly as a return. Sean Lattimore Marshon Lattimore. All of those guys have. What did it come to nominate is like looking at those traits interesting to see? What does it come like right out the gate? The first thing that stands out to me I think Marshon lattimore and Adobe Jackson were very talented track. Athlete very athletic Morlin humped reinsure Davis White. We're very skilled technicians Their technique stood out. And maybe it's a mix. Great athletes greet technicians. Those guys play I I. I do wonder but it'd be a fascinating deep dive into their first round in the house and wise. Yeah and just the one guy. We didn't talk about in the top ten Jamal Adams I mean I think that was a no brainer. He's been a culture changer. It seems on that defense in New York as a safety from. Lsu Remember we had we interviewed him and Davis White Bleed together on path to the draft and that was quite a talented secondary that year for Lsu any of these other ones stick out to you. There was a trio back to back to back at twenty twenty one and twenty to the broncos declining Garrett Bowles the lions declining jared Davis linebacker and the dolphins declining Charles Harris the linebacker from Missouri. That year I mean Gosh I mean Harris barely barely heard of him. Down there my. He'd never never got a chance to really do anything. Yeah no never really gets you instance show and I should say the Falcons actually opted not to pick them up. They ended up trading for Charles Harris. So maybe they see something in him but it was their option to pick up. The Falcons decided to decline it yet. I mean and they just don't have enough experience with them to know who he is and what. He can't be sure that makes sense. You know but is definitely interesting to kind of watch it play out yes so let's see And that that pretty much covers we Taco Charlton. I think we all Kinda thought was a little bit of a reach at twenty eight. Maybe more of a second round player ends up getting released by the cowboys waived by the dolphins and now the chiefs have signed Taco Charlton but his option was voided. So he he didn't. He didn't have an option to be picked up or decline. And then I think that that's pretty much most of the highlights from that one Anything else that you want to dig into here before we We say goodbye. None and I think I think it's a fascinating study. I think everyone who loves the scouting game has gotten in business. Should go back and look at the two thousand seventeen class seventeen first round and just kind of figure out some of those lessons. Yeah we did that. Last Day of path of the draft the lessons we learned from this year's draft and what we saw again bucky wrote about that and his scouts notebook. Nfl dot com slash scout notebook. There for Bucky Brooks to check out. Some of those lessons learned from this one and and see how they help us as we try to predict the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft in some three hundred days or so but Bucky good to hang out with my man again. We'll get Daniel Jeremiah. Back out here. He's just taking a little time to decompress and he'll be back next week to dive into all things move the sticks so again for DJ. I'm right Louis. Thanks so much for hanging out with us here. You're listening to the move. The sticks podcast.

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REShow: Guest Host Kirk Morrison and Bucky Brooks. Hour 2 (01-16-19)

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Kirk Morrison filling in for rich rich taking a couple of days, I'll be here Wednesday and Thursday this week excited to have this opportunity as always to come back and hang with like a call my distant cousins, that's what they are Brockman and Bill to fo- buddy Kirk Morrison, the former NFL linebacker, eight years National Football League ESPN college football broadcaster and NFL Sirius radio host in analysts. So it's it's always fun for me to come back here because I have so much the talk about with you guys bounce ideas off of but at the same time that right now we're in that Wednesday of championship week where it's like how do we get over the hump? It's once you get over Wednesday. You're one more day closer to championship Sunday to the matchups that we've all been waiting for. You know, starting over in Kansas City. That's the. That's the in in in Mercedes been stadium in New Orleans. The first game number two ranked ram versus number one. I still like when I see those little rankings the little season, the one it makes it feel like his college football. So it's it's the real cost playoff. This is the real playoff. But step is the NFL Rams at saints Sunday Mercedes Benz stadium that kicks off it. That's three five pm eastern time. I can't wait for that match up. And then it's the next game the one that I'll be attending out still trying to figure it out everybody what I'm going to bring and I just to be a carry on. So that's that's what I understand is which with my carry on luggage. I'm gonna put as much as I can. Best may bring a couple of jackets. I may wear on the flight. I don't care. I want to be warm and Kansas City. Yeah. That's all the matters. Patriots. Chiefs six forty pm eastern time on Sunday. I that's Wednesday. This is like my hump day. Because right. You're going through your storylines. You're getting the press conferences what are each team? What does each team saying about one another? How are they going about the week? And so that's what Wednesdays all about. But once you get over that Wednesday you get to Thursday now. It's almost ready to go time. It's time are these the four teams you thought would be here on championship weekend. Beginning season. No, I'll say beginning. This is no I think in the beginning of the season. It was thought of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like before they if you look at preseason, how what do people think in terms of who's going to be in that you think you would have definitely the Pittsburgh Steelers in there? I think in the NFC I would say possibly the the Packers were one, you know. You know, Minnesota because of the sexy pick the signing of Kirk cousins, and they were they were in his game year ago. So it's pretty easy to put that out. I don't think we said Jacksonville was going to return to the game. I think Kansas City was not even a sexy pick to be in this game. I think that it was obviously the patriots were a foregone conclusion. Hey, they'll be in the AFC championship game. Who's going to be next? Who's a thought we were gonna see patriots Steelers? But this time may be reversed. Maybe patriots at Steelers for the for the AFC championship or vice versa. So I think that we got it, right? In terms of are these the four best teams. I think so these are the four best teams, regardless. I think when you look at Kansas City they've done it, you know, throughout the entire year. We watched them Patrick Mahomes as NFL's MVP this year. I think you look at Tom Brady and the patriots. They're still where they're always regardless of what they go through in the regular season. They're still right where. They always are which is the conference championship. I think the the saints. You saw that last year the way that that season ended for them in Minnesota. I think we all knew that they were going to be back like they were going to be a team on a mission the way that they ran the football last year. One of Drew's better years in terms of throwing the football. So we knew that they will be back. I think the Rams are more of a surprise in team that I cover here in Los Angeles that I definitely thought that they would be divisional round type team with the possibility of going to a conference championship game. I didn't think they would be this good. So when you watch the entire season. I think we got it. Right. Not necessarily. We got it. Right. Like, we picked them like all these the top four teams, and no they earned their right to be in this position. And that's why it's one versus two one versus two in the AFC and the NFC, and I'm I'm totally understanding of why? I can't figure out who I want to win this matchup. Yeah. First time since two thousand fifteen that the top four teams made it to championship Sunday. Have you figured out which matchup you wanna see yet? I mean, we're now an hour into the show. I asked you now ago of saving it. I'm hurting more than okay? But okay, let's start with the poll quit talking about quarterbacks. The poll question about quarterbacks. Today's poll brought to you by truecar car shopping can be confusing with terms like dealer price list price, invoice, truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want. So you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car, visit truecar to joy to enjoy a more confident car buying experience. Okay poll question, we're looking at the quarterbacks which quarterback do you trust the most this weekend? Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. Jared Goff ju- breeze. I trust the most Tom Brady. I mean, he's been in his game. Every. A year since the new collective bargaining agreement. I'll that since the new collective bargaining agreement in two thousand eleven he has been in this game every single year and I trust him to. To make mistakes. I trust him that he can bounce back from making mistakes. I trust him that he's seen a lot of football to a point where his recall is unlike any other I think I got that from his whole Facebook deal lashing Merle on the Facebook where he calls up. Josh mcdaniels was offensive coordinator and says, Josh. Against jacksonville. Murphy gave us that covered too high. Look what the safety kind of metal like he was playing covered three. Remember, we got that back in two thousand four verses the New York Jets in the Meadowlands. We were down seven three. I'm like hold on. How does you? I trust that the most I trust his recall, the most I think the next quarterback who I trust the most in this conference championship weekend. Wow. Is has to be drew Brees. I think it's the two older guys. First Brady I brace second. I trust those guys the most. Now when it comes to that next the millennial quarterbacks, I call them, the young guys, the young guns two three years and less. I trust Jared golf before. I trust Patrick Mahomes. Really? Yeah. Why is that Jared Goff is now played in two playoff games? Patrick mahomes. One. I know that Jared Goff. Didn't throw a touchdown pass last week. But yet his team still seem to be dominant. They've got a running game going, and I think jerick golf realizes. I don't have to be the all American quarterback. I just got that turn the ball over complete passes and in sometimes take matters into my own hands, which he did last week. I'm confident now that he's coming into his own as a young quarterback in year three that is played in two playoff games. This'll be his third. I trust him that he won't make the bad play. And then there's the one. I trust. The least is Patrick Mahomes. I don't trust Patrick Mahomes, trusting MVP of the National Football League least on Sunday on Sunday. This is first time. This is his first game. This is his first game his second playoff game. This is also a conference championship game. With all the stakes. Will he try to put too much on himself? Will they have the if they don't have the running game going for them or when Tom Tom Bill Belichick and Brian floors, who's the defensive caller play caller who will possibly reportedly. Rumored to be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. What's their game plan versus Patrick Mahomes? I wanna see how does he handle that adversity? That's the versity. I wanna see. That's why I trust him least in this championship game. Because I feel like the Rams have multiple ways they can beat you. I think the obviously drew Brees and that offense has multiple ways saying with you know, the patriots. But honestly, it's the arm of Mahomes that is ultimately going to win. I think the chiefs this championship NFC championship game about to get them to the Super Bowl. But if they take that part of way like they did in the first half and that first matchup can he adjust? He showed me in the regular season. But I don't know does weather have I just is so many factors that I trust him. The least in this matchup. Would you have said you trust Tom Brady the most before last weekend's game? Yes. Yes. Because he did not look like himself. Maybe the last four five six weeks heading into the playoffs. And then last week, suddenly he's back to being Tom terrific. But I think that's where we all get the patriots mixed up as terms of there's three seasons. And every patriot player tells me this when I hate talking about it because it's like they just really irks me like, yeah, there's preseason. That's that season. Then there's regular season. This is what we do regular season. Then it's the reset. It's when the postseason starts everything is basically we learned throughout the season is built up to this test, and it's a whole different season. It's a different approach is the reason why they're practicing outside right now because they understand that. This is who we are. This is what we do. But we also have a game plan that helps us that. We've been in these situations before where we're not going to change. What we do. You know when you see the? You know, when you see other teams like we're gonna practice indoors and maybe practice outdoors later the patriots alike. Do this is who we are. We don't change what we do. And that's why I wasn't surprised the way we saw them just in late. The chargers last week. I thought it would be closer. I almost even pick the chargers. But I think I was doing that on my own because you just wanna see like the adversity of the patriots. What's going to be Knicks, and I have to stop as a fan in the analyst of doing that. Like, I raised my hands. I have to stop doing it. I have to stop saying. Okay. What's next for the patriots? Because we want that movie to finally end and see what's the second part. Yeah. You think a lot of analysts were just picking against them because they wanted them. They wanna see it. They wanna see somebody else. And they want to see I told you see we knew Brady was done. Right. And then after what we all do after over. I mean, we knew it. I mean, we knew at Tom, and he's he's a playoff Rummy. Could you go against Grote or could you? Everybody says it to a man. And then this weekend, they'll pick against them. I just don't see this offense in the chiefs and patriots probably wouldn't again, we're we gotta stop doing it in really look back. And that's what I think today is for me like Wednesday. I said like I'm trying to figure out what do I want in this Super Bowl? What do I like if the patriots were able to win this game? And if I get the patriots in Super Bowl, again, how do we just sit back and relish and look back into say. Wow. How and why is still going on like we really have to Marlin take into? Are. We not appreciative of what we're seeing from this team. I think we're so into the what's new what's hot what's going on. We have to do this. We have to understand that Tom Brady is probably one degrees in the team that they have is probably wanted to greatest. It's just you played three games against New England. What what was it about in those games? What did you see was your preparation different than any any other the fifteen games? The one thing I hate about playing the patriots is that all week long. You don't know what they're going to do like, you don't know their identity. They are like chameleons they they can change with the seasons. They can change the weather. They can change with the backdrop it is they like all week long. Like the patriots will like last week. They ran the football. Will they were in a lot of twelve personnel. One back to tide ins or the goal eleven personnel. They have all these different funky formations things like that you're gearing up for it. And then all of a sudden you come out in the regular in a game. And in the first drive, they'll show you something that you had never seen and they'll hit a ten yard route ten yard gain on it. And or they'll score touchdown on it. And we frantically go to the sideline. And we're like what are we doing? We're right on a board. I, hey, if they give us again, and you get worked up into a frenzy kind of like what hap-? And with the chargers when they go back to what? And they go back to what they're doing. And you may not ever see that play ran the entire game. But your soul like all you ever see that play again. And that's one of the things that like I marvel at because I've been in those shoes if somebody's teams like how do they do that to us like we just be who we are? But yet we're so frazzled, and yeah, that's that's something. I can definitely bounce off of one of our next guest. Bucky Brooks ineffective network analyst. I know he watched the film and probably dissect that I could also ask him about some of the NFL draft prospects because still like I say, I know it's four teams left, but they're still twenty eight other fan bases that are onto two thousand nineteen. So I can bounce some of my questions off of Bucky bricks Kirk Morrison, I'm in for rich, the rich Eisen show college football NFL football, the greatest time of the year. No more waiting time has around for you get in all the action don't belong to make your own line. Ages and head over the bed. Online dot AG. Take into the best bonuses in the business. You've promo code podcast want to see a fifty percent. Sign up bonus today that's podcast one to receive a fifty percent sign of bonus. 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Welcome back to the rich Eisen show, Kirk wars in for rich and gearing up for our championship games this weekend. But last night was Tuesday night today is Wednesday hump day. But you know, for me, I watch all sports not just football. So last night on watching, you know, my MBA I am a warriors fan, by the way. And I'm not this new millennial warriors fan. I'm old school warriors fan. Like, you're like run TMC Moore's Marshall lowness. Hi, rod, Higgins liability. Steph curry, you know, four thirty. So I've got that old school warriors, no phantom in me. And you know last night, they set an NBA record for most points in the first quarter ever with fifty one. So it's those little things that I get a chance to to gloat about it's crazy as that wasn't on national TV that you had to watch that on league pass. And so not a lot of people knew that was happening. So I just happened to be catching it, and they're just draining three three after eleven in the first quarter eleven in the first quarter here it was a low bottom, but he's a game. That's what I ten in the first quarter. They were like ten in the first quarter. But the biggest out of the night for me as a warriors fan like everybody's gonna talk about the points and the three pointers Klay Thompson had four ducks last night. For war. That was crazy. But it's just some of the things that I had to do to kind of give me through this luck. Call it the Lowell in the week until we get to the championship game. That's how I kind of went through it get through that. But our next guest Bucky Brooks NFL network, and how do you get this lull in the week Bucky and in terms of getting to the championship exams on Sunday. Right now, I'm down in Tampa Saint Pete for the east west gas to fully immersed and the draft process. We have the wish Ryan this week senior bowl next week. So I am distracted. But looking at the college prospects that about to make their way to army. I see. That's right. We'll we'll start at is that look, it's it's so you are you are you in full on draft mode. Just yet or you still dissect in what we had go on last week in the divisional round. Back and forth because I Sam football junkie. I can't way would takes place this weekend a championship around. But I think the division around provided us with a lot of I guess kind of money lessons and terms the way change or constructed teams will be constructed going forward. Just the first time that we will see the top four point offenses and the final four and so for old school defensive guy who loves defense, I'm kind of having to change my own that offense is what is going to take you to the championship and whichever team comes with the defense with a half are often those going to change that ultimately went to chip so throw the four quarterbacks at you. Because our poll question today is which QB you trust the most all the way down to the least and in order for me. I went Brady breeze. I went Goff at three and I trust Patrick Mahomes. The least of the group in terms of. Those four. How would you put the put them in that order? In terms of shots, would miss is tough. Because like you wanna give Tom Brady the lifetime achievement award. But I think if we go on like who is played and play. Will Pat Mahomes deserves to be up there because he's had the best the way these place. I'll go Mahomes, then I would go breeze then Brady Jerry gall. And the reason I I'm I'm kinda down on Brady little bit his he didn't really play well throughout the season. And I know that he played better in the divisional round. And the patriots are kind of finding their identity in terms of how they have to play the wing chip, you still wonder if you pressure Tom Brady is he going make mistakes we saw the mistakes in Pittsburgh. We saw make some mistakes in Miami. And I know that as an old player the one thing that you don't like it. You don't wanna get hit? So for Brady and Brees if you can get pressure on them. They're more likely to change. Change with Padma halls. I think Padma holding going to be who he's always been. I don't think the life stage would be too bright or too big. I just think dude is a rare player a rare play mic, and I think he is going to death when he gets his fraternity on Sunday NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks, join us and before I get to the to the college side over the NFL draft side of bucket. You're a former second round pick and you play defense in asleep. So you understand kind of what's in front of you. But understand this for me Bucky at what point did this league becomes sole offensive minded tool point where the top four scoring teams are in the championship game to where. Now, that's all this league seems to be kind of moving toward rather than the old defensive ways of yesterday. You know, obviously what the league is made a concerted effort to make it about the offense all of the rules over the last ten years they've being catered towards the offense. You can't touch receivers. You can't receive his heart over the middle. You can't hit the quarterback. But only end they're good. You can't hit them though. You can't hit them high. And so all of the rules have made it where they basically created a freeway on the field where everyone can just go and motor around and not have to worry about getting hit. And so the way that you play defense now has to change in terms of before it was all about bully ball trying to beat you up ten to jam and disrupt and do those kind of things you can do that to a point. You just can't necessarily you have to be able to live with the consequences meaning Jesse deal with the penalties and stuff. They would come with that. I will say this stuff defense still matters. But you have to be able to score points on offense. And so if I am teamed and Bill. On my defense folks on two areas turnovers and red zone defense. Take the ball away and make people kick field goals as opposed scoring touchdowns. If you do those things you can win a lot of games. He's the NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks join us, and he's also the co host of the move the sticks podcast alongside Daniel Jeremie. Which already know tends to spike around this type of years one of the most listened to podcasts bookie, and that's where I'll transition over to college football to the NFL draft. And I think I'll start with Cuyler Murray. I with the decision to enter the draft and still seems to be on the fence he committed to being an NFL player is he still have baseball and his future. How was that all going to you think I guess go down over the next couple of months, how will teams view him? The couple of things calamari the first thing that he can do to eliminate a lot of questions when he has tuned to sit with coaches evaluator, tell them look, I'm a football guy. I wanna play football. I wanna be a quarterback in the national football. Is he gives them a Harkin mimic that if I am drafted if I'm drafted high. I'm going to be all in football. I don't think it'd be an issue. The other issue that has to work around would be questions about his size. Both of Homa just we thing that he's five nine seven eighths scowls would been through there. He's one eighty five to one ninety and I think the thing works against in. That really hasn't been a precedent set for a player of this stature to play successfully in the league he will benefit from the fact that Baker Mayfield. Well, so Wilson drew Brees has success, but even with their success. Some people are still gonna say, but he's a much smaller player than them. The thing that works in his favor. He just. Lead into same offense. And Baker Mayfield would Baker Mayfield with that. Oklahoma. Baker Mayfield goes to the league has hasn't house any rookie year. You can look at tell the Murray's tape, and you get kind kinda make some sumptious or how his game would translate into the league. He is more dynamic. He is more explosive. He can't throw the ball. He has big time arm talent. He's not quite as precise with Equitas basically doing his last year. But he certainly is the guy that you can imagine having to kind of success in the league. And then ultimately is going to be a decision for teams, are you secure enough general manager in your job where you know, if I take a gamble on Kalam irt underside, and it doesn't work out. Is it going to cost me my job? So those the things that he has to work through. But is he word you've been a first round based on talent absolutely Willie go in the first round. I think so I think it's a high probability I would say probably eighty five or ninety. Chance to go into first round. I just believe that people are still trying to get their their minds around the fact that we could have a five nine quarterback going into the league. All we okay with that based on how the old standards and traditions were when it came to the scouting community NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks and kind of to your point you talk about Baker Mayfield. And the relationship he had with Lincoln Riley. And then it's now Kyle Murray and his relationship with Lincoln Riley. And in you know, right now, the the report is out that Jalen hurts, the former quarterback Alabama will transfer to Oklahoma. He'll be with Lincoln Riley. Again, what is Lincoln Riley do for these young quarterbacks that seem to not only help out there, dress dot but make them. So I to NFL teams. So so worthy of being a top pick in the NFL draft. One thing that you have done stand about the system that making Raleigh employees. It is the air race system. So really one of the founding fathers would be Washington state, which is Mike Lees. The system is really quarterback friendly. The thing about it. It really features a lot of concepts that are in the west coast often. And so the shallow crosses the stick route some of the other things that they do some of those things do translate well to the league, I think the best thing that has happened to all of the guys that are planning under Lincoln Riley year seen other airy quarterbacks have success and the more success that they have the more teams are okay with taking gas in the system Jerry Goff came from the area system at Cal Mahomes gay from the area system. Checks tech Baker Mayfield coming from Oklahoma. So we say three young quarterbacks come from that system and succeed in the league. They now know that you can go to Oklahoma you can perform well in this system. And you still have an opportunity to be got the next level. I think just an easy sale for Lincoln Riley when it comes to record about. I know you're still in your initial phases of looking at these college prospects at these all star games. And when you start to dive in more into the draft is there a receiver right now that you could possibly take in the first round. Or if I'm a team, do I really explore the option of bringing on Tonio Brown, or do you say more of a wait and see what his draft has and go in the first round and grab a receiver. There's no one that's going to give you media bump day. Tony brown. Get if your team that's in the top five or top ten and you need a play maker and Tonio Brown and going to be better than anybody that you can imagine bringing on. I think the big thing when you're dealing with Antonio Brown is what exactly are you bring it into the locker room? Everyone would tell you to a man. He's one of the hardest working people when it comes to football. He's going to be a guy that really put the time and he's going to grant. However, there other things that you have to deal with when you bring him into your locker room, you have to seriously listen to what the things are coming out of this for him being late him being maybe a little diva like when it comes to how he had to be managed by coaches and some of his teammates. And then the fact that he didn't play for his team the last game for some people man that is hard to get past that everything is on the line. You were arguably the best player on the team and you didn't play. I think before you take on. Antoni bronze you gotta sit down. You gotta look into the dot. And you got to get a sense of his commitment to what you're trying to do. And so I do understand the fascination and the entry based on what he's done in this league. He is without question. One of the top two or three receivers into league. But depending on the way your team is constructed. You just have to make sure that he's gonna be a positive influence on the rest of the soi, particularly young wide receiver. I got a couple more for you bucket. Gotta get these in just because you know, me my mind's always going especially around this draft time in the one thing that we saw this year we saw saquon Barkley, but he was picked number two and the type of season that he have possibly the NFL's rookie of the year offense of rookie of the year. And then you see Philip Lindsey who's the undrafted guy out of Denver who has an outstanding your as well, they're both running backs lady on bills out there on the market did saquon Barkley Philip Lindsey. They kind of hurt the market for a guy like lady, I'm Bill or is he still work. Earth possibly the price that he's probably going to garner on the free agent market. It's funny. You brought this up because I just had this conversation with running backs coach in the league. And he said, look, I understand the fascination with everyone saying, hey, just go trying to undrafted free agent outside of C J. Anderson Philip Lindsey who are all these undrafted guys that are really impactful players in the league. And it's not just about like the Steph. It's about how many undrafted running backs are making defensive coordinator stay up at night. How many are revamping their systems to deal with two undrafted free agents when you deal with the sake one Barclay boys Zeke Elliot Todd Gurley some of the other guys that have gone in the first round, you feel them Christian McCaffrey. There's a difference in the level of talent. And it can't just be extrapolated by fantasy football numbers. It is what do you have to do to slow in contain them? And so with the levian Bill. I think everybody has coordinated understands how to he is. And what he brings to the table. A dig by running back that able to go outside make plays wide receiver. Run rouse come inside pass. Protect and also told the rock hard to find those guys. And that's why when you see guys that can do all of those things. That's why they come off the board in the first round. I think Levy Bill, I don't think it actually impacts value at all. I think people appreciate what he brings. I think is just a matter of being comfortable with whatever he is going to be in your locker room. But I think he still gets paid like Todd Gurley David Johnson. And all those other guys last one for you bugging before. I let you go back to watching film and scouting players. What is the the theme of this year's draft? Do you think so far with all the early entries? I of you know, hearing about the defensive line heavy drab defensive players. What's the theme of this draft? So far as you start to unwind an unpacked some of these players. I think we will be talking about playmakers defense play makers in particular is all about the delight. You talk about the past versus and tackles. But also the off the ball linebackers the old school linebacker. They're played a position like used to play. Having watched lady Vander as watching Darius Leonard. Watching those guys making meet it impacts teams are going to look to find those silent or sideline playmakers. Not only impact the run game dominate against the past Kim to hit running cover. Those are the ones that are gonna come up the board early. I think we're gonna see a lot of defense of guys go because about impacting the passing game. I think you'll see a bunch of frontline players on the defensive line and at linebacker go off the board in the first pick and the weakest position on his draft. So far. I mean, I think you still kinda weak in running back this year, you won't get a consensus first round running back. Even though there's some people that are excited about Jacob's to running back from Alabama is not the kind of runningback draft that we've seen the last couple years where we've seen running back one the first round I would say that is probably the weakest part of the draft. Make sure you listen to the moving the sticks podcasts alongside day, Jeremiah in it'll be Bucky Brooks. And always look forward to listen to you and also listening in also watching listen to you on Twitter's. Well, listen when you talk I listen, so when you're typing, I'm actually hearing bookie Brooks's voice talk to be when you're on Twitter type. And so always appreciate the time. Bucky? Moster touching house. NFL network analyst bookie Brooks. Join richeisenshow Kirk Morrison in for rich will impact some of that. And what he said this. Jalen hurts news. 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I think a couple years back at the forum. So when she decides to go back on to tour, I will definitely be first in line to get those tickets you up. Yeah. And hopefully, our folks at direct TV will be involved in. We can all go together as a. I love that. That's a great idea. But you know, you know, the breaking news right now in college football is the transfers the transfers just around college football with the biggest transfer right now is that a nother hit to the Alabama football team. Whether it's the make sure I get this, right? Is it eight or nine guys that have declared eligible for the NFL draft declare themselves to go to the NFL draft. They also couple coaches on staff, and now they lose if you wanna call them a co starter or a backup. I don't know how you wanna label him, but Jalen hurts the quarterback at Alabama backup, or you know, spot starter or relief performer is transferring to Oklahoma university, our university of Oklahoma. And this is big news. Because if you thought that Oklahoma was going to have a down year with losing Baker Mayfield. There was calamari. They had a. Even better year. Well, okay, they're done collar Murray goes to the NFL excuse me. They go to the NFL. And yeah, they're going to have another down year. But yet here comes Jalen hurts who's actually won a national title twenty six and two as a starter at Alabama. Now, he gets a chance to link up with the college quarterback whisper is that what we call them Lincoln Riley. Like, this is big news in college football because we've seen the movement. You know, Justin fills the top quarterback of two thousand eighteen he transfers from Georgia to Ohio State, Ohio states backup was tape. Martill Dwayne Haskins who goes to the NFL but take Martinez. No. I'm not gonna stay here. Justin fields. I'm going to go down over to Miami. In link-up, you know, obviously with many delays and his staff, and then you have this. Jalen hurts news. And then now so what happens if I'm the backup quarterback and Oklahoma here. I am telling everybody. Hey, you know, mom, dad. This is my year. You know, Kyle just said he's going to the NFL and the backup quarterback by the way to Cuyler Murray. We probably never heard his name because collar was always in. But for those out there listening and watching Kim Austin, kindle, who's already graduated from Oklahoma and has decided I want to go to West Virginia. Will what is Oklahoma say sorry buddy pumped your brakes? They are blocking his transfer to West Virginia now, but he's like why am I going to stay here comes Jalen hurts. You're going to put this guy. Obviously in that starting quarterback position. I don't wanna compete with guy. He's already going to possibly be the starter. So you've got a lot of movement here. But Jalen hurts twenty six two as a starter. We saw what he did in the championship game versus Georgia. This is a good get for Oklahoma. If you thought that they were going, this is they obviously they got beat down by Alabama. But to say that we got one of Allah. Obama's better players and we bring him to our roster. I mean, this I can't even lie is Oklahoma now possibly one top favorites to get back to the college football playoff. Again. Dude was SEC offensive player of the year and twenty sixteen. He's a widget football quarterback legit player. Legit offense of power, and he's going to Oklahoma. Now back to back Heisman Trophy winners. Cower Murray what we were just talking about. He's like five nine Jalen hurts his six two. Okay. Just imagine what he's going to be able to do in that Lincoln Riley offense. I'm gonna say right now three straight Oklahoma Heisman Trophy winters put Jalen hurts in the mix now for the Heisman Trophy. You'll get him. Hot take out here. Go which hot take Rochman? I'm honest, I'm Riley his proven he's putting can do for these quarterbacks in his system. Baker Mayfield became the top pick in the draft. Now, we're talking about Kyle Murray as being a first round and fell draft pick at five nine at a buck. Whatever just imagine Jalen hurts is going to be able to do next year. First of all he's in a conference that doesn't play defense. That's the first euro like think about where Jalen hurts is coming from. Okay. He's coming from the SEC and those types of defense where he's under center or he's in shotgun. Whatever you know, whatever he's doing and he looks across. And he sees, you know, six seven, you know, NFL players across from them every single game every game. Now, he goes to the big twelve and they're not known for defense. So to me, this is not only an upgrade for him. But this isn't about oh, I just want to be a starter. I just wanna play Jalen hurts just made a business decision. Jalen hurts just got drafted into the two thousand twenty NFL draft. I'm just telling you now, I don't know if he would've got drafted if he stayed at Alabama or he goes even somewhere else outside of Oklahoma. But he would now be drafted at quarterback. I that's my hot take. He just got drafted. Because the first round I don't know about I ramble. He got drafted. I think just. His play is only going to. I think enhance his status a little bit. Because I think at Alabama you can only do so much in. They're always going to give credit to what the team they're gonna get Nick Sabin not a quarterback quarterback hotbed Alabama. And you know, think about all the quarterbacks that have come out of Alabama. You don't you're not never gonna get notoriety. You know, you forget about you know, one of my colleague Greg McElroy was good quarterback. But it was because the team, you know, AJ McCarron quarterback. But it was the team. Now, Jalen hurts is going away from there, and he's moving all the way over to Oklahoma. And I think now we may see him more than experienced passer. I mean think about it. It's a little bit easier. When you have an offense that's going to be geared to your skill set. And you look at the skill set of Jalen hurts, obviously it's been his legs. But now he will be more of a polish store make in Lincoln Riley in teaching him certain things, which Jalen hurts his head. How many? Offense coordinator since he's been Alabama. Let's count them. He's had Lankans in different. One pension. Brian debacle Loxley leaders here. That's four different offensive coordinators. He's had in three years at Alabama. And now he goes to a team. Hey, guess what you're gonna be with me? This is what we do. And if you don't believe go expert Mayfield, go acts choleric X the quarterbacks who I've groom since they've been here. This was a great business decision by Jalen hurts out this great business move because he went from being a possibly drafted quarterback to a draft a quarterback in twenty twenty. I know we talked about we've seen Clemson play Alabama. Now, four straight years in the college football playoff three of them for the national championship the rematch. I'm looking forward to next year is Jalen hurts at Oklahoma against Alabama. That's what I wanna see we Jalen hurts go crazy and take down to say. But that would be awesome. I understand that you know, Jalen. Hurts completed seventy percent of his passes while Oklahoma was at Alabama. It wasn't like he was a bad passer last year. It was just that obviously it was to team to a tongue of low that was his team. He came in relief. An SEC championship game. We forgot while. Jalen hurts is a really good quarterback. And I think now like you mentioned at first I was like I'm exhausted of Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma. And he always guests who the fourteen was going to be in a playoff bag for whoever. It is is is Georgia this year. It's LSU Notre Dame. Today day, maybe a west coast team who knows, but you know, now, it's like you've got some intrigue because rape storylines to Jalen hurts Trevor Lawrence in whoever else can kind of emerge in that fourth spot. So college football just got interested. She's got just got even better Ohio State with Justin field be that number fourteen or could take Martell bring the you back. It's so many things to get to solve much more to get to here on the rich Eisen show up Kirk Morrison infrared sh more to come stay to general hospitals. Eat Burton and Bradford Anderson have been playing buddies onscreen for years only to discover that they're real-life dynamic is perhaps even more fun with guests from daytime TV, the entertainment industry ambience, no joking around. None allowed Rivera serious show. Download that awesome. Every week on podcast one forever. 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Trade Deadline Debuts & Duke QB Daniel Jones Interview

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

19:11 min | 2 years ago

Trade Deadline Debuts & Duke QB Daniel Jones Interview

"And now the move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody J bucking here? Big. Podcast coming your way today. But a lot of NFL in college football to get how you doing man, I'm doing great. We are talking about a live cover a lot of ground Monday night football recap and talk about the Tennessee titans weapon up on the Dallas Cowboys about how the traded players debuted. How they looked with their new teams. And then we have a terrific player. Dana Jones the quarterback from Duke University. We're going to interview him just kind of talk about how things going for him in this season. Look for that conversation. I'll tell you what there's a little extra pep in Bucky Brooks step today. And you know, why that is? It's basketball season as a North Carolina guy. It's basketball season. There's a little excitement little extra juice there. Bucky today. We're going to get back on track man football suck. So I gotta put all eggs into basketball basket. The only way I can be happy for field. This year's my basketball team is going to have to win it all because right now, I'm not able to talk about my university at all, and it's disappointing. Well, I'm excited Romeo Lankford at IU right now. I think we could be termed team this year. Believable. So let's start off with Monday night football. What did you see titans and Cowboys? You know, what I saw was a disappointing. Dallas Cowboys team. Even though you change the pieces you'd move the characters around. I think this team has an issue. I don't believe they necessarily play to their talent. And I believe they have a serious. Question or conversation that they must have internally about whether Dak Prescott is going to be the guy that can build around. I know the owner has said that this isn't about Dak Prescott. He's not uneven. He is franchise quarterback. But if he's going to be about Dak Prescott then either Jason geared, and it's got Lenihan need to figure out a way to build this office around him while still making it all about Ezekiel Elliott, or they gotta figure out a way just to get deck Prescott to play better with the pieces. Eighty has around him. I know to office line has been shaky. I know he's still getting used to the no more receiver. But ultimately this is a quarterback driven league in. If your quarterback isn't playing will it is hard to consistently win games in the National Football League. I just wonder when I like cow games. Cowboys in primetime every week. Even though you say, the don't get enough attention. Okay. I'm I'm I think I'm gonna I'm gonna Mendes statement a little bit. Maybe maybe they get too much attention. How about that? Does that make? Does that make you better go, maybe is maybe there's too much attention. But I will say I think Jon Gruden watches with with a tub of popcorn when the cash right now. See where that picks look like I mean, he could watch what we need to be careful on his own because the Oakland Raiders aren't playing as well. Let's let's get to these notable player debuts here with new teams on the trades. Just rip through here to marry Thomas Clinton Dix Dante Fowler. And snacks Harrison just kind of what we've seen so far from these teams. And what you think these moves going forward? I like to move it to maritime is going to the Houston. Texans. What he's able to do is look he's not the burn. It will fuller was with them. But he certainly can't control the middle feel three receptions, sixty one yards pretty solid debut effort, and when you put him opposite. De'andre Hawkins look the tin catch that over hundred yards. He is the number one. But now you have a real big body number two that Shawn Watson can target and even though they'll lose some of the explosive popped. It ahead will full. They get another good player that it can put in the middle of the feel work in beside the numbers that is where Shawn Watson his comfort zone. I think this offense will actually be better and more playoff ready with a big body like marries Thomas on the field. Yeah. He was motioning, man. He was very emotional. After that game. You could tell them in a lot of hey, man. It was personal is personal team. Let them go. They let them ride. Just so hot Clinton, dick seven tackles. It did not help slow down the falcons though. No it did not help slow down the falcons falcons. We're wearing them out. This is a beat up ballclub to the Washington. Redskins three. Oh lion. Geyser out of lineup. They don't have what they normally thought. They would have going into it because I was really beginning to warm up to the Washington Redskins as a team that could sneak in the playoffs. I don't know how they do it. I think it puts more pressure Alex Smith, and in defensively, it's only matter time Clinton Dix DJ swinger, they'll get on the same page, but man now more than ever their defense is going to have to play stingy defense. And the way the league is setup. I don't know if they can hold teams consistently under twenty points on the the last two here. Quick thoughts on with follower. And snacks. Harrison there fell is the guy that he brought over to be a rush. But I just don't know if he's an elite pass rusher. He's a powerfully off the edge. He's better than what they had and the lineup. I don't know how much of a bump. He's going to give. Pass rush maybe can feast off those garbage sacks created when Dom consume and Aaron Donald able to create penetration of the middle. But I don't know how big of a contributor. He will be for this team as a hit down the stretch. See what happens with this group? I mean the last one there snacks Harrison now six tackles last week against the Vikings. But that team has a lot of other issues. So my whole my whole take on that team is they start to lose through for Eames and started going to little bit of a slide. I'll banks to see what the reaction is there with with coach Patricia. 'cause I think that when things are going well everything's gonna be fine there, but you start here. Chirpin from veterans here pretty soon if this continues to slide. Yeah, I think you almost at that point. I think is very critical for this team because they let go very popular player in golden Tate. The other players aren't necessarily been involved. We don't know what's going on with Yasser. He hasn't been really effective for them this season. And so snacks comes over to kind of fortify the defense. And they're trying to be tougher on both sides of all. But yeah, situation critical for Detroit lies down. All right G. Suite is a suite of cloud based productivity tools that includes g mail, doc slides sheets and drive. These tools improve your work. Life both in terms of your experience, and the outputs you great, hence, their new campaign make it with G suite, you know, when you have twenty identical versions of document label final in no clue which is the latest. So you make another version name that one final final right will G suite by Google cloud, a range of work apps like g mail dachshunds lies. Let you make real time. Updates to the same document without having to track version after version of the project and since all the twos, cloud base, your whole team can access to same document and work on the same page at the same time. Find out more. Geez. Productivity kills visit G suite dot com. That's G suite dot com. Make it g sweet by Google cloud. All right, buck. I am really excited for this next conversation. Let's let's just get right to it. All right. Buck excited to bring in our next guest. Here we talking a little bit of a quarterback around had Wilbur on last week this week. We've got Daniel Jones from Duke. Join us Dana. How you doing today buddy doing great, great great? Makes us to hear what you had to say about last week's game against Miami. Man. It looked like you guys were playing at a hurricane. Yeah. It was. It was tough. It was one of the forecast at thirty percents. I thought we might well he was dry game. But. Actually monsoon there for the first half. But. Come out with a win. Dan. You had a unique journey going from Charlotte led to become Indu cst starting quarterback talk a little bit about your journey. And how you went from kind of being in obscurity to Naby in a star quarterback at a major program. Yeah. You know, my recruiting process was a little different in that matured a little later. It wasn't. Didn't get ranked earlier kind of rated as a lot of these quarterbacks do so. You know through my junior and senior years when I started to. Play better and get some kind of recognition toward the end of my junior year. And then to my senior year actually broke my my risk going into my senior summer. So that kind of me back there was some camps. So it was kind of down to my senior summer where I was, you know, you know, had some tape to recruit off of and I was lucky enough that they cut notice that and reached out, and you know to get to here. So yeah, a little different. But certainly thrilled very grateful to be vision. I am today. So dangerous talking about coach cut cliff is obviously known as one of the quarterback gurus in college football. What have you learned from him during your time at do? Learned a lot certainly to action. Portly game. I think he's a great teacher in that way learned a lot. But I think more than anything just the responsibility of putting position and how much you know. On your shoulders as a quarterback to control to to manage an offense. I think he's taught me as well. As all other quarterbacks handle. Just just how much you know, quarterback needs to be able to do how much quarterback needs to be able to know in control about the offense. And you know, how much of our success? Billy executed is dependent on quarterback knowing what to do, and knowing how to do it, you know, to that point coach cut cliff, obviously has a unique perspective because he's coached two of the best quarterbacks that we've seen in Peyton Manning. Andy lamenting how often are you guys reminded of what those guys did how many lessons are you able to take away from his experience coaching those guys to coach Gallic yourself. I think you know, we hear stories about them weekly. I think you know, he's having conversation with Peyton I think even to he's very close with those guys and talked to them. Weekly tells us about the come conversation. Sometimes I remember conversation that heynen him having camp about a specific route. And you know, he relayed that information to us, and you notice here kind of even second hand sometimes those conversations about how Payton might think about something or what Peyton did in a certain situation. Really cool. And again, those experiences from him. And. Comes down here in the spring to to work out with his guys and being able to watch that being able to. Here's some of those between Eli and his guys it's huge and have been really really cool to learn from. You know, thinking about learning. We believe life's experiences are a terrific teacher. And so for you throughout your career. What have been some of the hardships -versities that you've had to overcome in have shaped you as a plane as a person? Yeah. I think. Athletically player. I think. Kinda time we talked about earlier that time going from. High school to to the Cleveland level playing in or certainly my role, and they're after my junior year broke my wrist wasn't getting a whole lot of attention. So it didn't seem like that was necessarily. Going to work out a jackpot wanted to two so going into that senior year going in that summer, I didn't have to go to many camps that want to. You know, necessarily get get up -tunities. So I knew that it was going to come down to my senior year. I think just kind of going through that get learning that I needed to control what I control and that was apparent play my senior years while they can just. Like, I said, very thankful coach. Coach Duke for recognizing that union player in thinking about that. If that has been your big as hardship what has been your biggest highlight in your career? You. I don't know. I think just just being here at Duke has been. In my biggest highlight think the colder here we have teammates. You know, I have you on the team that friends have been able to create through the through these years. Here has been my highlight. You know, thinking about thinking about my career, so. I think we have a special special guys, especially culture here that's made it so. Been able to grow on the field. I thought it be but also awful field with those guys socially, you know, in the classroom and just kind of day to day life. Last question on on the three eight hundred around it off just your hero. Who would you say is your here could be somebody on the football field. Someone your personal life. But who's Daniel Jones hero? I'd say I'd say my dad's my hero ever since. I was a little guy. He's been my keys. Selfish person. I know always did what he could to help me and my siblings out. Do what's do what's best for us? And. I certainly wouldn't be -sition. I am today without west river yard, certainly in a great position going forward. Love what you're doing at Duke University. L P go easier much are ios in a few weeks. Don't need to see the Bill Katina be painted in Duke, blue painting. Carolina blue. But regardless of that best of luck to you. Best of luck to Duke and the rest of you guess on you. Sounds good. Thank you for having me. Great chat there with Daniel Jones buck. I really enjoyed that conversation. What a neat story. It's gonna be fun to follow him through the rest of his college. Career. Guys are terrible take care of their health. Whether it's a knee injury. Bad back something worse guys are usually more comfortable Robinson dirt on it than seeing a doctor. The same is true for rectal this function. Studies show seventy percent a guy so experience eighty don't get treated for thankfully, Roman greeted easy way to get checked out by doctor and get treated for ED online. Roman is a one stop shop where licensed US physicians can diagnose e d and ship medication right to your door with Roman. There are no waiting rooms awkward face to face conversations or uncomfortable trips to the pharmacy. You can handle everything online. All you have to do is. Visit get Roman dot com slash sticks. 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He'll eventually crack the code, and we saw eventually fat crack the code and have a couple of big plays in the passing back and watch the tape and this one too on defense Quinton Williams. Dominant there from from Alabama. He's he's playing better even than Jonathan Allen played. He was going off that Alabama defense. Quinton Williams is a better football player which pre scary. I think is very very scary. This Alabama team. I mean, they're loaded in, you know, we'll talk about all of these guys running up to the draft loaded with Ota guy. They loaded with younger guys just loaded from top to bottom LSU also has tremendous amount of town when it comes to playing playing team, man. I just think it's hard to match what Ella Bama brings each and every week about how about Clemson throwing up seventy seven Louisville capped off by by dabble sung in the end zone. Yeah. That's pretty cool to see his son score. Touchdown. But was really cool man when you see team run for almost five hundred yards in a game. That is something that we only see from typically the service academies army navy airforce teams that are into flex bone. Those teams are really grind and get after like that. But Clemson is talented clips in funds way too. Need to give the ball to their playmakers. They make a ton of place and a young quarterback Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if we will see him tested doing what I call it the regular season. But in the playoffs he's going to be the one that put the game on can't he make enough place for them to get to the championship game. He's been very impressive. Any other any other college games jump out? Our guy will Greer continues to be in a very impressive player. Very impressive prospect thought I gave versus Texas might be his signature game. When it comes to the run-up to the NFL draft this place plays in the final minute. Then he came back and made the two point conversion after doing a Dr Davis seals Texas calling the time out having to reset it. Then he goes in on a quarterback drop will Greer is one of my favorite players in the draft. And I think he's going to be a guy that when we talk about the quarterback position into prospects. Which one can you trust the most? I think he's going to be in that conversation when it comes down to the quarterback evaluation throw. It was ridiculous. There at the end of the game off of one foot and just dropped it right into the bucket showed you a lot of poise. Accuracy, all that good stuff. And then the two point conversion to be patient on that quarterback draw find his way into the end zone. Now what a fun game to watch. That was the highlight for me watching the end of that football game there with Texas high. Buck anything else you want to tackle here before we get out of here. No. I mean, this was a loaded podcast, but I know on Thursday, we'll have more ground to cover more matchups. More things to talk about head into another great football. We can I've got two words to leave you with book, and they are not encouraging to a tarheel. Those words are Zion. Williamson man this early. We will do within like we're we're fine with that. We know we're we're we're ready. I'm ready for basketball season to tip off because football. There's been a big disappoint. Well, goes got basketball Carolina. I could sit Indiana my college basketball team. But I felt a little kid think we could actually be tournament team. That's how that's how bad it's become. Not good. All right. That's gonna do it for today. Thank you guys for sticking with us here on move, the sticks Bucky Brooks Daniel, Jeremiah Kent and Cam doing the work. The blast as always next time. Thanks, downloading move, the sticks with Daniel. Jeremiah Brooks, four more. NFL dot com slash podcast.

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Safe Picks, Risky Picks & OU WR Hollywood Brown joins the show!

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

36:54 min | 2 years ago

Safe Picks, Risky Picks & OU WR Hollywood Brown joins the show!

"And now a move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Welcome to move the sticks DJ Bucky here, and we are one week away from the two thousand nineteen NFL draft buck. How you doing bud, man? I'm good. You know, we come to the end of it. I can see the tape, but it's almost like running along race, and you could see it. But man. Obvious computer a lot closer than they really really are. We do we still got some time. We still have some more tape that you on and ground. We still have some more rumors to kinda sort out, but it's a fun time of year because when you talking to you scouting, but but then the biz I mean, the draft is like they're Super Bowl ST one opportunity. They have to sit at the big table to have their voice heard. And so this is a combination of a lot of work by a lot of people and to that point was kind of saw the the trid the thread, Jim Nagy put out there about it seems like there's a little anti out businessman floated out there on the Twitter verse. Yeah, I can't really understand it because here's what I will say. And I know it can be easy for people on the outside looking in to county criticize gals or maybe not getting it. Right. You're in a business where are you talking about the hit rate at the good level? Maybe you fifty fifty. But really if you're coming up with batting averages MLB batting averages. Three hundred three fifty or buff. Are you really doing a great job because I believe in our stand on this. The hardest thing to do is to project a player going from college to the pros because you looking at Apple's versus oranges, and it's a lot of subjectivity based on not only the talent daddy has. But where he goes how he's coach what the fit is what the coaching plan is ended the plan of development for those players. And so we can sit here and speculate what someone is going to be two or three years down the line. But really, you have no way of knowing because there's so many variables that really impact the way they play between the lines. Now, I'm glad you referenced the baseball reference there because that's going to be a little bit of a theme for us. You're talking about batting average. How about we talk slugging percentage swinging for the fences because over today some of the risky picks? And it's we we talked about this on the phone. We're talking about light tower power do not choke up rob deer. Whatever you gotta do. Swing for the fences. You could hit one off the light tower or you could strike out. So those type of risky players in on the other side of it buck. We're going to look at some of the safe players guys it, oh, we'll lay our head on the pillow and feel good about knowing. They're part of your team. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the thing. Like a couple of different approaches that you can take towards the draft in the first round we've talked about this and using a baseball reference in the first round if you only have one picking your team is really trying to build it is really in your best interest to be a contact hitter. You wanna get on base? You wanna advanced running? You wanna make sure that the guys that you take in the first round at their worst. They become solid starters for a long time. If they become more than that, look. You've knocked it out the pork. You've done a great job. If you have multiple pics, then you can be a little more risky when it comes to this election for one of those guys because you really wanna make sure that you get it right with the first pick. But then with the second one, it's kind of a bonus fig if you hit on that guy. They got becomes a Pro Bowl player someone that's a difference maker, you really upgraded to tell it on your roster different approaches. But at the end of the day, you want to make sure that you get the first round, right? And then when you get into those other hours second third and even the later rounds you may take chances. We're going to get into that talk and safe picks, talk and risky picks. Also going to get a chance to visit one of the one of the more interesting players in this year's draft less marquees Hollywood Brown wide receiver from Oklahoma. Get a chance to visit with him. See how his health is after his his lists. Frank injury that he's trying to navigate through check in with him on that talking to him about what we should expect from him at the next level. Also, you got to remember for those that don't know Hollywood Brown cousins within Tonio Brown. What do you want to be open to playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers? Something I look forward to asking him a little bit later on in the show. Well, let's start safe picks. I hear booklets. Go guys that when you pick them, you feel very confident about you feel very comfortable again doubles, you know, what you're buying. Let's go safe picks and just we can just kinda shotgun them here. And just go one at a time who do you like easiest one for me is TJ hockessin from Iowa. He is a safe Vic all day because I know exactly what I'm buying. I know I'm getting a solid player who can. Do everything that I wanna see done at the tight end position. He's physical blockade the point of attack. He can seal the eggs in the running game. He is a guy that can make plays over the middle of feel southern route runner. I've compared him repeatedly to Jason Witten when you think about Jason win and the long-term production of success that he has had with the Dallas Cowboys. I think TD hawks in is a guy that is going to be very similar to that. I think you talking about thirteen fourteen fifteen year vet that just gives you steady Eddy production each and every season. Yeah. I'm with you. He's one of my favorites in the entire draft class. I think you get a little bit of both worlds there. You get some of the high end you get some of the high floor as well. I'm gonna go linebacker, and I have I have Devon white is my top off ball linebacker, actually, Devon Bush a little safer just because Devon Bush a little bit better taken on. He's a little more physical inside. So to me in terms of just safe picks guy runs. He's got great character leadership intelligence. He checks so many different boxes. He's not six foot two. Not the biggest guy in the world. He's he's five eleven two hundred thirty four pound linebacker. But to me, he's one clear packaging. I know. Exactly. What I'm getting with Devon Bush. It is funny. Just you say that because when you kind of described it off we talked about it like the guys that I fall in love with the guys that are kind of my blue collar guys that want. They're smart. They're tough there physical those guys always find a way to play in the league for a long time. And so you talk about Devon white and Devin Bush. I'm gonna go with Taylor rap from U dub Taylor rep is not going to win the Olympics as decaf elite like didn't put in a great forty time. But what he is. He's a rock-solid football player who consistently makes plays. No matter. How you use them? You wanna put him near the box to be extra defend against run. Check that off you want him into deep middle to make plays against a prolific passing attack checked it off if you need them to come to come down and be a Rover data's DM. Forcet lurk in between the hash his checked it off all the things that you're looking for at the position. He is able to do it. Now is he the fastest when it comes to being able to get it done. No. But I believe he plays faster on tape than he performs on the field and part of that is due to his instincts his cue and just as overall football accurate. This is a guy that is going to be a starting to league for longtime. I can sleep comfortably at night knowing that Taylor rap is my starting safety. Yeah. My next one. I'm with you on that Taylor wrap. My next one I'm going to give it to for here because Jerry bradberry. I feel like we've talked about him so much I'll mail yet go there the center from NC state, but he's so clean. And he's definitely somebody. I would sleep well at night if I picked him I wanna stay at the safety position. And sometimes when you're talking about safe picks, we're not talking just about first second round guys just players that you have a role for me know, exactly what you're going to get. There's no there's no guesswork Mike Edwards safety from Kentucky. Buck he might not be the biggest guy in the world five ten force of five ten and a half two hundred five pounds, rain, four five flat. But I just love the fact I can drop him down and play him near the line of scrimmage, and I know exactly what I'm going to get from him. He's always going to be very sure tackler. He's got some instincts to get his hands on some balls underneath just going to be a very dependable reliable player and Mike Edwards. Probably I'd say fourth-round is where he ends up going. Maybe he could sneak into the third round. But more than likely you're talking about a fourth round guy. And I feel. Great about that pick. I mean, I feel pretty good about it as well. Like all of you know, what's funny was funny is we we've take made four or five picks. And we haven't talked about a quarterback. So I'll put you to the fire who is your safest pick at the quarterback position. I'm just curious because I wrote down the name. Yeah. My safest pick at the quarterback position. Well, you have to really eliminate one year guys. Right. Because traditionally one year guys not safe you haven't seen a long track record. So that's the two top quarterbacks in the draft Cuyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins. I think we we have the same top guys just slipped YoM. So those guys wouldn't be classified as safe players because if not enough track record. So then it comes down to who's next is it is Daniel Jones at drew lock. Both those guys have played a lot of football. I would probably say Daniel Jones would would be the one. I'd feel safe about maybe that ceiling is not sky high. But I feel like the floor. I know what the floor is is so funny that is exactly what I wrote down. And it's funny because like it's funny how the scouting process works out very early in the process when I was dangerous Jones's name listed as maybe the first man, I don't know. Then I go to the senior bowl, and I'm watching the practices, and I felt like maybe kind of. Not great. He shrank a little bit of tabs on the principal. But then he ends up as a senior bowl MVP, and that doesn't necessarily mean anything. But when the game was played he made enough plays to earn that honor. And then when you talk to him, and you talk to his his high school coach, and you talk to people around him, and he just kind of checks all the boxes in terms of look, this is a guy that is accountable. He's dependable two game means a lot to him. He has the necessary instincts and intellect to be successful at it. And we know that he is going to work hard at the craft is easy to buy into those guys. I'm not saying that he'll elderly emerge as a top-five, Betty even a top ten quarterback. But I do know if Dana Jones is my starting quarterback. I know exactly what I'm getting. And I believe I know how to build my team to come to maximize who years as a player. Yeah. I couldn't say better myself book. I'm with you on all that go ahead. Can't you got a question for us? We just talked about one of our three sixty guys and Daniel Jones belt, the three sixty we released this week Clemson de line. I'll start with you Bucky out of all the Clemson D lineman. Who's the safest pick out of those guys to me. I think is Dexter Lawrence. And that's not being a Homer. I think with Dexter. You know, exactly what he is. He's at his worst. He's a nose tackle was capable of occupying multiple blockers and stopping the run at his best. He ends up being more than that. Meaning he can rush the passer push to pocket a little bit. Maybe five to six six. I've kind of compared them a little bit did not the same body type was, but he reminds me a lot of Vince wheel fork vis Wilford was a solid player for longtime for the New England pages and then Houston Texans. I would envision Dexter being very similar to that. Yeah. I think you know, really all of them have played a lot of bowl. I feel like, you know, you're what you're getting in the character checks out. So I think they're all actually pretty clean and pretty safe. I would say Ferrell just as long as your expectations are aligned properly. I think he's going to be an eight to ten sack guy consistently think of the production. You give somebody like a brain Graham. Look recently, a guy like Matt Jude on how they've played can be stout against the run can set the edge. And then is going to give you some timely sacks. Maybe not gonna get you ton of sags, but they're always timely shows up and big games. Just totally wired the right way as you. If you listen to the three sixty episode, you're going to learn about all these guys, but feral to me, just the whole military background and upbringing into. I mean, this he's been a life. I I bet on that kid all day long. I mean, these easy to bet on because you right? The background speaks volumes about his character. And a lot of DJ. We've talked about this on air and off they're like when you get to know guys in you know. Can the deer? Why you can is easier to Bank on those guys in hearing his wind here new coach talked about his why and how he's wired I'm more than willing to believe that he's going to be a guy that makes it and speaking of stories with Josh Jacobs kinda qualify as a guy that you have Bank us in terms of safe pig based on his background and what he said to overcome. Say look I love him as a player. I think he's a fantastic player. I still haven't been my top ten and I readily admit he's not going in the top ten. I understand that. I just I believe so much in the kid now if I was gonna use the word safe, though, I think most people want to see more production, and and he doesn't have that. So I wouldn't classify him in that in that regard is safe. I just I believe so much in the person in the kid and the ability I've seen him do everything there just isn't a long history of him doing everything. So to me falls into the category a little bit with the top two quarterbacks. Just not a long track record their production. So maybe that excludes him from that list. But do I believe in him and have I stamp my approval and kind of push my chips into the table any other analogy you want to use? Yes. I'm Josh Jacobs guy think that's well known. Yeah. I mean, look, I think his story. I think what he's had to overcome. I think the flashes that you see on tape when he's been given the ball. And then given opportunities to be the guy he certainly shown it does he have the production that you want. No. But the skill set is dear because he can run inside and outside. He can catch the ball out of the backfield. He's dependable impasse protection. And when you get the story and what he said to overcome. I believe he's going to be wired to right way, mentally that. He's always going to be a guy that is working at his craft that football means a lot to him. And basically, I almost say is his saving grace, but is going to give him an opportunity to change his life for the better. And I think when you come from certain situations like that I think is always going to be the priority. I think he's gonna take care of business when he's asked to be a feature back. I'm going to do one more here. And then we'll switch over two guys that we want to take a shot on her are risky and have a huge upside last year from JJ or Sega Whiteside from Stanford buck, he's got forty contested catches over the last two years. He's gonna make plays down in the red zone. He's quicker than people give him credit for. He's quick off the line of scrimmage. She's quicken. And now at the top of his route. I think he's going to be a good pro. I like him a lot. I feel like the floor is very high for him. I mean, I think the floors and part of what we're doing. We've talked about Safex I think is being able to look at a prospect and say, I do exactly what I can do with you. I know exactly where role you feel and you will excel in that role. We've heard to patriots talk about that for so long how they put Gaza and roles and the reason that they're able to get production out of guys other teams goodness because they only asked their guys to play certain roles, and that allows them to always play to their strengths. And so we JJ are saying, well, why set I expect him to be a red zone weapon a guy that can win. Those fifty fifty bowls along the border or in the middle of the feel and third down when it comes to moving the chains. He is always going to be able to do that. I kind of envision him. He's not the same contemplate or in terms of Michael Thomas, but the way that the saints used Michael Thomas over the middle of feel as a big slot receiver. Maybe our Sega Weizsaecker can do that and do some things on outside down in Rizzo. 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That's one hundred dollars off at smile. Direct. Club dot com slash podcast offer code sticks smile. Direct club dot com slash podcast offer code sticks by buck into some of these players with some risk involved. But the payoff could be huge. I'll give you the floor for the first one. We'll swing for the Francis. I'm going big. And I'm a go at Mick Kev, right out the gate. You talk about a boom of bus prospect in terms of a guy who is outstanding speed great, physical dimensions. But when you look at the tape, he's a guy that runs kind of like four rows. He's a go post deep over and occasionally a slant runner who makes plays down the field because he. Can just outrun everybody if you take him, and if you ask him to be a complete rout tree runner, you can be disappointed because I don't believe he is a guy that is truly a number one receiver. However, I think visa complement on the backside, basically, a bigger more physical version of Tig junior. He can be a dominant player they may gives you a thousand yards and ten touchdowns on occasion because he is just so dominant as a vertical placement. Now, that's a good one. I'm going to go to the defensive side of the ball, though. And I think maybe biggest boomer bus player in the entire draft Shangari from Michigan. Who is just a freak. When you talk about. What is the freak like how about six four and a half almost two hundred eighty pounds. He ran four five eight that is some free. He stuff when you look at the testing. I think he plays hard. I know some people banged him on his effort. I didn't see that. I thought I've seen the guy win with speed. I've I've seen him convert speed the power. The problem is many. We'll locate the football he doesn't get his name in the box score as much as you would like for somebody. You're gonna take in the top ten. Now, he battled a little bit of an injury. People can say I don't like how he was used at the end of the day. He just doesn't simply have the production. You normally see from top ten pick. And you're looking for comparisons to me different situations. In terms of one was a five star recruit. The other one was kind of an unknown. Ziggy Ansah coming into the league. You saw the athlete. He was and you had to project a little bit of the production say the. Production will come. He's got all the skills, you need it's up to defensive line coach get that out of him for Shaun Gary buck, if we look back five years from now, and he's been to some pro bowls and and had fourteen fifteen secs seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on his second team. I wouldn't be totally surprised. So there is a huge variance there, which can get a huge various just in terms of like, you see the fetichism buzz doesn't match up to the production that pops off the tape ever similar player different Rhys. I'm gonna go. With Jakab polite from Florida, Jakab, polite. I love the tape in terms of the way to de plays. The motor the effort to energy the sack reduction to force Romo production. I like all of those things. However, I am a little leery on what he's going to be able to do because he didn't work out. Well, he didn't interview will when he had his opportunity to combine and pro days, and so you just don't know. And then you find out that he's had a suspension from Florida. So you wonder look is disa- God it's going to be able to kind of total line when it comes to protocol in the expectation. Nhs that are needed for him to be a spectacular. Pro. I don't know. But I do know if I can get them to the field. And if you have all the other stuff, I think he has a chance to be a really good player. Yeah. Takes free. Good, man. When you look at the tape. There's there's a lot to like there. I'm going to go to the secondary ingredient Williams had him down. I just struggled with digits. With the whole time. And I just know look he's he's got the height weight speed. You look for he's got some plays in the ball. That are impressive. I think he's more smooth and fluid than he is just sudden and twitched up I think he's kind of strider with speed. And sometimes that worries at the corner position because a lot of transition a lot of quick change direction. I don't know that he's great. They're kind of get through that. My issue is just his lack of lack of desire in the run game tough. And it's just allergic he's allergic to tackling in when I look at a corner like that. And I look at the way the game's played right now buck you can I can guarantee you in his first game his first regular season game within the first five plays. He is going to see toss. He's going to see fly sweep they are going to challenge him and force him to make tackles and be aggressive and fill in the run game. It's going to happen. He's gonna definitely get challenged in that area. And how he reacts to it's going to determine what he's going to be as pro. Yes, you got to be tough enough. Yeah. I mean, despite a misnomer debt, oh, a cover corner can just float out there. They're liabilities into run game and taught to do that. Now people put you under pressure because not only the run game. But you got to be able to stop these wide receiver with the bubble. Screens teams are taking advantage of weak cornered by the does bubble screens and fly sweeps over and over and over again. So it is mandatory now that you have to be tackled. You have to be you'd have to be a trained killer. But you have to be willing to kind of stick your nose, and you've got to put your face into fan and make things happen. So for greedy Williams. He is going to have to flip the switch and become a tougher tackler, a tough competitor. Then he displayed during his time and college I have a guy that is not similar, but I do wonder about his toughness but can't his game translate to the pros. And s Brian burns the defensive end from Florida state and one of the reasons why have concern is he plays significantly lighter than he showed up at the combat. And when you watched them on tape. He's a speed Russia. Only he wants to go up to feel and win with first step, quickness and burst. He has an occasional spin moved at a used to get inside. But I wonder at the size and weight that he played it at Florida state. How is he going to handle when office of tackles put their hand on him? Does he have the strength to be able to ward off those log on blockers is he going to be able to dip and rip and get past him. I just don't know we met him here path to the draft big man in terms of size, but Kenny hold their weight when we get into the thick of the season is a huge concern. Because of that I'm worried about him being kind of a wintry point when it gets to the next level. Yeah. It's a it's a tricky evaluation. You've got the bar keyboards Mingo thing that kind of hangs over your head a little bit. And does it does make that mistake? So you know, that's a tough evaluation. I'll stay on the defensive front Tristan hill from central Florida. If you just want to look at somebody that's dynamic and explosive inside, and he might he has the capabilities of being one of the best players in this draft. You just see the flashes there wild flashes. Of course, you had change over in staff. It's been well documented he only started one game this year. But you flip on the tape at the end of the season. And you see him. He is disruptive. He is explosive. I think he's so talented buck. He's a classic second round pick to me some ways it's going to say, hey, I would never gonna take that risk in round one. But man, I I don't see him getting out of the second round. The ability level is too good ability to good. And when you get to the second round you really trying to throw a door and trying to hit on someone. They can be a starter and a key contributor. He is so shown that potential desk going to give him a chance. And so you'll for some of these guys at just. It comes together with the right coaching the right environment. I do believe peer pressure matters. Sometimes that can get people to elevate their gains because they feel the standard is race. And they wanted me to stand. Give me give me one more here. One more. I'm gonna go with one of my favorites. But there is some risk involved. How about Jalen Ferguson for Louisiana tech? He's one of my favorites because production is there you've seen a multiple occasions. Look finishes, the F B S autopsy Jackley to he shattered to real suggs record and finished with forty five sacks. And so sacked production translates UCF play violent. He has a mean streak that I like a like the dog that he has in them. But there are some concerns he puffed up. He got bigger in the season doing this pre-draft process. Some of the show people that maybe you could be a bigger and better and more explosive athlete didn't really test will. And so for me, I'm hoping that he goes back to his normal weight. I'm hoping that he retained it ED's that made him a dominant player and college. If he does it I think he has a chance to be a really good player problem going to be a first round pick. But I think he can be a guy that outplays his draft status. Because he does stand art of rushing to pass. And then I have one to throw out to you guys. What about Dalton reisner? This is the guy if you watch them against Mississippi State earlier this year, he kind of owned Montasser sweat and did really well against the line, which is going to have to high picks. But I notice, you know, he's number forty on your list deejays, not in the top five for you in terms of tackles or interior guys Bucky what about him as maybe a question, and what is his boomer bus potential? He's interesting because the things that I like about him, man. He's a scrapper. He's a tough hard nosed guy on the edge. He did have a good game a solid game against Montes where we're able to kind of neutralize Amon and stuff and he showed potential at the senior bowl. He held his own against all the time guys that were there. I think what I worry about maybe some of the lateral quickness. Like when he has to face like the league ask coming off the age is he going to be able to share shadow and mirror some of those guys. But I like the tough guy factor. I think for him team fit scheme fit is really important. Our preferred that he went to a team that is a little more rugged into approach in terms of maybe run I pass second allowing him to kind of come out of his stance and just mall people. Then I think is easier for him to Dan Mullen, reset when it comes to those play action passes. Yeah. Question is is again to plan tackler or center Mays played center early on in his career. There's a lot of teams that feel like he slides in there. He's got really strong hands. She's got real strong core. Just sometimes it's feeder a little bit slow to get two spots, and he'd get away with that collegiate level at the NFL level. That's going to get in trouble. Also, he's a little bit of a heel clicker, which can mess with your balance little bit. If you think about a pass set you want to have some some base in balance there. It's hard to do that when your legs are coming together. And those against some things you get away with the college level, you can't get away with that at the NFL level. So a couple of things he just needs to clean up. I again, I haven't met at forty. So I have them as early second round pick. I think you'll be solid player. I just don't view him as an as an upper echelon big time, dude. But he'll be a starter. You won't have to worry about them. And I think it'd be a good pro. All right. Doug, my last one. I'm going to go quarterback. You talked about Daniel Jones. We mentioned him being a safer pick to meet Jarret stidham is the one kind of could be a hero zero. If you just watch them in shorts as we both had a chance to do at the elite eleven he spends it as well as anybody in this draft class. He's got a beautiful motion. Beautiful arm the ball pops. It hasn't really worked out great. At auburn. This system was not very friendly to him. You're talking about somebody. That's got size. He's athletic. He's got a big arm. All the character stuff. The intelligence. He checks those boxes. It just hasn't always shown up on the field. So to me third round swing for the fences. You might get something there with your it's. Yeah. I think the guy's wired to right way in terms of he strikes me as a guy that is high Q, very diligent and deliberate work when it comes to learning and mastering offenses to arm talent is sufficient I think he can make throws that you need to make. When you're starting quarterback in the league for whatever reason when he was at Auburn didn't necessarily plan assist. Mhm that matched his talent. And so we didn't get a chance to really see him. But I think you have to remember he was a highly decorated recruit show flashes at Baylor that he could be a big time guy. So I think this is a situation where if he's mashed up with the right coast and given time to kinda sink into kind of settle into a system. I think he has a chance to be a starting quarterback down a lot. Yeah. I'm I'm with you on that one. We'll see what happens with some of these risky players hit it big or you could miss. That's the that's the beauty of the NFL draft. You know, bucket can be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running late to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train. And if the signals are going in the trains, not even there yet, you can feel a little bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. We'll don't ever trains are often going lot faster than you expect them to be and they can't stop even if the engineer history breaks right away. It can take a train over a mile to stop by that time. What used to be your core is just a crushed hunk of metal? And what used to be you will better not think about that. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive to train can't stop even if it sees you. The result is disaster. If the signals are on the train is on the way, and you just need to remember one thing. Stop because trains can't right? No, I block. We're we're coming to the latter portion of today's podcast. But I do believe we've saved the best for last. I know we've saved the fastest four last. And you'll know what I'm talking about. When you hear our conversation with the man named Hollywood. All right block. We're couldn't be more excited to be joined by the most explosive player in two thousand nineteen NFL draft some gnome as marquees, but we know miss Hollywood. And that's how the world is going to know him. Once he gets into the NFL Hollywood Brown from Oklahoma. Join us how you doing math doing good doing good this. I gotta ask you first of all. And then I'll get over to buck here. Just how how's the foot feel how health right now? Us feeling good is going along really on his been gaining me. A lot of confidence. Just started, you know, running doing some, you know, different journals of mobility word. So you know, everything is on schedule. You know, Hollywood you had an outstanding funnel season. How much did they injury? Plague you at the end of the year, particularly when we saw you in the playoffs. I a I try to stick it out for my team is being anything. I could do enough. I was decoded and follows this. You know, anything to do the help. That's what I was trying to do. So I was really it was it was one of the in the gains sees itself would have had another game that I probably would still try to go. What is the team that drafts? You getting I look back at my notes in my favorite line that I wrote down after watching. You was two words. It was sudden death because it was like it doesn't matter where you are on the field. You're capable of putting that thing into the paint and making things happen. But when you watch the game on Sundays is there somebody you watch and say, okay, I know I can do that. That's what I want to be at the next level. Yeah. I watch a combination Gaza question. I watch AB within you know, I always grew up watching the signs accent. I watch tyreek hill, you know. I watch I watch a lot of guys know even bigger issues. I I like Jay is. So this is their mentality days like they feel this day. And that's how I played a game. Fearless anytime I do such, you know, Trump school. You know, you have a unique relationship with AB Antonio Brown being a cousin, but also been a mentor. What have you learned from watching him from interacting and working out with him to really help you become a better player? It'd be a pro no is ill hits me a lot. You know from off the field on fill in his just my mentality out there, you know, in I'm trying to you got to train high. You know in his desert sweets all music mentality in there. You know, you gotta thank you. The most dumb food. I want to ask you real quick about, you know, the the way things ended there in Pittsburgh with Antonio got a little bit messy. I know he's happy to be an Oakland now going forward. But if the Pittsburgh Steelers were to draft, you you have any issue at all playing for the Steelers. No, not done. You will handle issue? The look is very not health and quarterback. No load. You know, how we're coming into this process like the combat process you couldn't participate in it. But at some point you can have an opportunity to get back on the field when you have an opportunity to get back on the field bid at rookie minicamp or training camp. What are some of the things that you want to show people or remind people that you're able to do on the field. Assume that you know, that I play a lot bigger than what my size may say. And you know, when you watch the games, you don't know how guy on. So I'm going to remind people that you know, it ain't no issue. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be an issue. That's one of the things. I love about us. Even though you're not the tallest in the world you play above the rim. You go tack the football in destroying their at the catch point in thinking about your love of playing there. They've been some successful receivers. Dede Westbrook was the last one to go from there. And he's had some success in the league. What is it about playing receiver? Oklahoma that is going to allow you to have immediate success in the pros. Is is like I say, I would they ask the you here. You know, they ask for you to block they gonna let you run routes, coz Riley. He he does a good job in co Simmons. Because Gandhi, they do a good job in helping you develop a really studying studying film in habits like that, you know, help translate to the next level. The last question last question for me, and I'm gonna let you go. We look forward to fall on you. As you go through this process. We have used top wide receiver in this draft class. Just in your own words. Why are you the premier wideout in this year's class? Honesty. You know, I don't really get into you know, who talk not I just know what are granted a table. And you know, I'm gonna God I really loves to win at the end of the day, you know, the film don't speak. But as far as a person I want to win this game. And I wanna win every game. So that's just what I'm a brand to say. You know, you wanna win. That's fantastic. We'll do what we we. Appreciate you taking some time for us today. Finally, it's finally here a little more over a little a week from now, you'll know where you're going and we're excited to follow you through the process, but thanks, man. What a fantastic conversation would Hollywood Brown, man. He is everything that we expect them to be as a playmaker. But I think his insight on the quarterbacks and how he is improved as a player, and what he wants to accomplish it the pros that is the stuff that we talk about separates two good from the great. So I think he's going to have an opportunity to be great one at the next level. I'm with you on that great to to catch up with that stud receiver from Oklahoma. All right. That's going to do it for us today. We are a week out from the NFL draft. We will have our draft special coming to you next week from Nashville out there and buck will get a chance to catch up on all the last minute buzz where we see this draft going cannot wait to get out there. Also, we have our three sixty series. It is out there. Trust me. It's some of the best we've ever done Dwayne Haskins Nick Bosa Daniel Jones, Clemson defensive line. And soon we will we will release the Cuyler Murray three sixty which is one of the best we've ever done in my opinion. Buck dish, man tastic man Calvin Murray and all the people talking about him. They've really shaped a lot of light on Heisman Trophy winner. I remember you can check out the move the six podcasts. NFL dot com slash podcast, apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app, and all of our video content NFL dot com slash Mt. S video YouTube dot com slash NFL. Thank you guys so much for listening to the show. Do yourself a favor NFL dot com slash bookie Brooks. You can check out what buck. 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LAC/BAL & PHI/CHI Preview,  Alabama-Clemson with John Parker Wilson

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

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LAC/BAL & PHI/CHI Preview, Alabama-Clemson with John Parker Wilson

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, withhold on everybody. Nick foles back in the saddle on onside. My man Bucky Brooks. I love it. I'm just gonna go around. Introducing. I'm also known as Nicole. Everybody right Louis here with buck again DJ out today. And we got a fun episode today. We're gonna take a look at the wild card round match ups on Sunday, which I'll be in the house for here. An NFL network a little game day highlights action. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. A lot of fun. Good fun. One time. Postgame some halftime probably as well. It's all right here in phil- network. And then we're also going to be joined by the color voice of the Alabama crimson tide. Is they get step in the national championship game on Monday. John Parker Wilson former Alabama quarterback will join us here shortly as well. That'd be a good time as we preview Alabama in Clemson book, you want to get started here with the wildcard matchup will kick it off in Baltimore. This is the second game in three weeks for the chargers. In ravens this time in Baltimore semi difference. I mean, I think it makes all the difference in the world for the Baltimore Ravens playing a home game in front of that crowd being able to get those guys excited the fans in everything embracing Lamar Jackson and what he's been able to do to their running game. I think it does have an opportunity to give them a significant advantage. When I look at this. I mean, an and just looking at the numbers. The Baltimore Ravens are average in two hundred fifty yards on the ground. Forty five rushing attempts. This Lamar Jackson has taken over the more Jackson is averaging own his own almost eighty rushing yards a game. I mean, we've never seen a quarterback have that kind of impact on the ground game. And yet when you look his passer rating for rookie quarterback's second behind Baker Mayfield som-. Yeah. It's been solid enough in each week. They've given him a little more. And so you're the charge. You saw this offense a couple of weeks ago you to decent job you held them to under two hundred yards something about one hundred sixty or so, but you still have to deal with all the new iterations in variations that they throw at you each week, and is tough it's tough to deal with it. And you gotta figure out a way to make them uncomfortable. And the only way that you really can make them uncomfortable by making them play from behind right? But you're going into the teeth of their number one defense. So do you work against yourself by trying to? Aggressive. So. Couple of things on this one for me chargers actually held the ravens our lowest rushing total of the Lamar Jackson starting era this year. Now, they can do that. Again. They'll give themselves a shot because if you remember watching that week fifteen game gosh, I kept thinking well rain is had the ball the whole time. But somehow the charges were in the game. Tonio gates doesn't fumble they might win this ballgame. Yup. You know? So again, it'll be about turnovers in actually feel like the chargers run game might be even more important. They just forty one yards against the raven. Melvin Gordon at forty one yards. It was his first game back from the injury. He's now got a couple of weeks under his belt here. Maybe he's more healthy. But the way Philip rivers has been playing the last three weeks three touchdowns six interceptions. A problem. Gotta run the ball. Limit the amount of times at balls in the air limit the amount of time that ravens defense can turn it over and give it back to mar. That's how the chargers win this thing. So it was funny coming in. I was listening to serious NFL radio. And Anthony Lynn was being interviewed. And he talked about playing the ravens and one thing that he talked about he said the style of play. The ravens have the way they played they're gonna make every game be a close gay again. So you just have to know that it's going to be a tight game. And he said, well, we need to do is to start fast to make them accountable by. Him down a couple of different scores. Then what was funny I call. It. A buddy was the defense coordinator, leeann I was like, hey, what do you think about being aggressive against a ravens to start out because he said in a way when you do that you play into their hands because the way that you can beat the ravens is you gotta out raven. The ravens meaning you need to make their offense on comfortable you need to be committed to running the ball. So you retain possession and make them have to kind of play catch up in a different way. But if you come out and thinking you'll throw it all over the yard against their defense. Which is their defense is built to defend the pass your create an opportunity for them to get a turnover ashore feel something bad to happen. And then you look up it is just like the week fifteen game. Right. You're now down ten three thirteen three. And you spend the rest of the game chasing points as opposed to being able to play in a standoff. I think if you're the chargers you play a little more conservatively early because you feel like you've got the better quarterback. So if into. Get into the four court in a game site. You should feel like Philip rivers can get us over the hump. Don't lose the game in the first half just trying to find a way to stay close. And then winning in the second hand, what's he had? I think he said three interceptions in the first quarter in the last three weeks. I think to the last three that have been on the first possession that you cannot put yourself in a hole against the team. That's going to grind it out. And in this will be a limited possession game. So just gotta make them count. Yeah. You got you got you have to make them count and playing in their place would all those goons and stuff that it'd being the stand. You don't wanna give them anything to be excited about early in the game? Right. And then the other thing will be DJ talked about this in the past the charges had gotten away with plan a lot of undersized bodies on defense. Meaning they're playing their sub package nickel and dime. Put in DB's in linebacker spots. And that is how they play really really good defense. The issue when you do that against a Baltimore Ravens? The baltimore. Ravens lineup in twelve personnel. I'll throw three tight ends at tight ends. Because so now you have your little trying to face the bigs and they're coming down hill in the first game the charges at a really good job of having a defender assigned on Lamar Jackson, and he did a good job kinda running them down. They they played the option. Really, well, and and that is great. You have to play man to man, but in playing man to man, you're susceptible big place. So you guys on the outside have to be able to hold up. And so this game really would come down to the parameter and candidate charges DB's hold up against a skill gas for the ravens because if if they're playing over zero and really committed to stop Lamar if Lamar take shots there gonna be some home and opportunities there. Yeah. As a matter of wis quad wins those fifty fifty walls the x factor is hunter Henry apps coming back. Who knows I mean, he handles only played competitively in over a year calendar year, you know, so that makes you wonder a little bit. And then lastly, charters don't lose. Lose when they get on a plane. Nah. On the road. Save for the game here in LA against the Rams. And even the home game. They played London. They they've been. I mean, they they've been they've been good there. Battle-tested? They have a great defense. They haven't experienced quarterback. But it's been a while. You know, it's been awhile since they've been able to get on track. Okay. We'll end up once that games in the books. We will kick off in Chicago the bears hosting playoff game is the NFC north champs. They are welcoming the defending Super Bowl champs the Philadelphia Eagles led by me back in this, right? Supposedly about his back. All right. How do you see this? What do you see as your match up to watch this? This is the thing. Like, I just did a thing in my notebook where I was raining Dakota Bax how I see the quarterbacks going into the playoffs and put Nick foles at number three behind drew Brees. And Russell Wilson ahead of time Brady. And when I looked the last eight games that he has played in December January. He's undefeated like he's unbeaten like you. Can't he's the highest rated playoff. Passer in NFL history. I mean, so we can say we want, but in the postseason this is when it really works with them and looking at what has also happened Darren sproles his comeback has given them a matchup option on third downs. They hitting back out the backfield. The two tight ends to have. Zacher and in Dallas got it. They're working in an all Sean Jeffrey for whatever reason he and Nick foles have a chemist in connection that makes it very tough defensively. Jim sources done a really good job. This game is going to come down to. And I know every bear fan kinda cringes is Mitchell Trubisky. Yeah. Can the young quarterback score enough points to handle whatever to eagles do? And can't he make enough plays in the passing game? He has terrific athleticism. They've been using his legs. He can run around their running game with join how into Rico and has been solid. But at the end of the day he is going to have to make five to six plays in the passing game that creates separation for the bears against the eagles. And we'll just have to see if he's able to do it. That's a good. That's a good way to break it down for sure Bisky it's gonna come down to five or six big throws for him. Or maybe even like big Bruns? You know, maybe maybe it's third twelve down original scramble, right? So to me the perfect stat line. For Trubisky is. Twenty of twenty five nine thousand nine hundred twenty four some about two twenty. I don't even care if he throws it touchdown as long as he doesn't throw pick. You turn the ball over in this game in this game, which is different for the bears because the bears inexperienced when it comes to the playoffs playing at home that low is going to be tough to deal with the in dishes soldier feel best fan bait wanted to best fan bases. You will find. But the eagles are battle-tested. They're coming off a season where they won the Super Bowl. They understand the speed of the game of the intensity. And so the first quarter will be one to watch due to bears continue to play fast and aggressive like Matt Nagy has done or did it can ease into the fight. Yeah. The eagles know how the physicality and toughness and urges. He kinda picks up will the bears be ready for that kind of fistfight. Here's my one match up to watch in this one. We broke it down on NFL playbook Wednesday on NFL network. All Sean Jeffrey has come alive sin. Nick foles has come back into the lineup week fifteen against the Rams was his best game this season. One hundred sixty arts had his best his best three game stretch of catch percentage, which means catches on targets of any three-game stretch. He's had this season. He is a bigger part of the past game anymore. -ffective part of the past game with Nick foles a quarterback in this is his first game back in Chicago since leaving the bear. So that's that's one to watch for me and Ken the bears secondary matchup with him. Because even when he's covered. He's open. He's up. There you go. All right. That's a look at our wildcard round games on Sunday. Now time for our conversation with the voice of the Alabama crimson tide. John Parker Wilson. Are John Parker? So glad to have you here with us, man. You know, what a great career you had from two thousand five two thousand eight as a quarterback for Alabama spent two seasons with Nick Sabin as your head coach. And now your first season as the color voice of the crimson tide. How cool has this year been for you get to be on the call for these games so hard it's going pretty good thirteen though. Coach Shaibu was nice enough. Lemme come back and do this after playing for him for two years. So I tell you what I had no idea I've never called a game before this year. But it's been so fun to get in there. Kind of pre-game is just like go down to play for a game. Does butterflies right before the kickoff. It's been it's been a good learning experience and try to get everybody just like playing ball in thinking about that. Because you do have a unique perspective heaven played for the head coach. And there you sit in the booth, and you're able to watch this team kind of washed Evelyn of the quarterbacks how much has he changed in terms of the way that he manages his offense. From the time that you play for them to the time that you re enter the press box to watch him up top. So it's it's been kind of completely night and day when I was playing we were still doing seven step drops play action to the fullback, two tight end sets. There's not even a full back on scholarship anymore. So it's changed. But to be awfully I think that's one of the things that's makes coach saving so special. And unique that he's not scared to adapt. He's not scared to change especially on offense dating back to lane kiffin. And now Mike Loxley what he's been able to do. I mean, I wish we had these RPO's like they do now back when I was playing. I bet you do, you know, it's kind of I I like what you what you mentioned there about coach Sabin 'cause listening to a lot of the things that he says complacency creates a blatant disregard for doing what's best. So even when you find the ultimate success. How do you get better at it than next year? How would you describe his pursuit of better of improvement? It's relentless. I it really is from the second. They won the national championship last shooter to now getting ready for this one. It's three hundred sixty five days a year. It's always trying to improve whatever you're trying to do is trying to get better. I think that's been a unified message that he's had since he got there. And why they're able to continue being good from one year to the next with new players with new coordinator. Look a changes a lot at Alabama. But his process has remained the same. You know in thinking about the process the process of developing quarterbacks Alabama, obviously has to really quarterbacks in Jalen hurts, and then you have to we've seen Jalen be supportive backup player. What is it about two that is separated him from someone other quarterbacks that have played it Alabama prior to his arrival. You know, I think two's a special player. He's a special talent that you don't see every year or every other year. He just kinda got that. And they'd ability came in last year and the national championship game. We saw what he doing the second half that think he's continued to get better. His presence is unbelievable is got extremely quick release his deadly accurate. It's got a really good feel for the defense. But I think the word you decide was development has been the biggest thing that we've seen this year with Mike Loxley and dedicated quarterback coach Danny knows was Jalen when he had to come in SEC championship game. Probably didn't make some of those throws last year that he did this year became in with confidence at a big third down completion early. And then some completions later on the game. One touchdown pass the tie his ability to to get better is pretty remarkable from being a two year star to now being a pretty I think good Passover. What does it say about this program in about Jalen also in particular while on the quarterbacks here that in this age of? You know, you're not the starter Amata here. Let me go find another place to play the ability to keep to high quality quarterbacks on the roster ready to play and obviously played a high level when called upon. Look, I it's unbelievable. What took place with with Jalen twenty six and two as a starter losing his job in the second half of the national championship game to give it up to the most prolific passer in school history. But to be able to continue to leadership and have the kind of personality character that he does. I mean, if you're not doing the right things all year long when you're the backup. If you're not getting ready for the game. And yet to come in the fourth quarter of the SEC championship game. You don't get it done. Like he did. So, you know, savings recur good guys with that. That's a good quarterback right now too. Good high-quality guys. You know, when you look at this team and having watched them and watch them kind of run through SEC competition you wash them in the semi-finals. Kind of dismantle Oklahoma. What would you say the biggest advantage that Alabama enjoys over Clemson heading into macho? You know, I think they're too good match team really similar teams of what they're trying to do. You would typically say the now the entertainments experience, but but Clemson has been there just as many times, I think it's the depth of Alabama in their playmakers. They got five guys right now that can go out and catch the ball and be on receivers clued are Smith as as receiver because he can split out and hurt you just as bad running routes as it can't block and and the dimension trying. Okay. We're gonna try to take away the past game. Then you get Damon Harris and you saw Josh egg instead in the playoff game. I mean, it's just just a well round the team and to beat them you've got to be balanced offense defense, an especially deep. It's of line has gotta get pressure to free up some of the secondary guy. So I think it's the the weapons on offense that really sets us apart. But it certainly seems like to me in jump Arthur, you can certainly speak to this. The best group of skilled players at collectively last decade that Alabama's had would you say? Yeah. I venture to go back further historian like like, I should be. But you know, from Jerry, Judy devante. Henry rugs. True freshman. Jalen, Waddell, anybody can be anybody's had their game with they're the number one guy to spread the ball around. And then they, you know, soon as you start trying to figure those out Josh Jacobs hitch in the face. So then knowing what Alabama has and obviously I'm sure you've watched a ton of cleansing games this year as well. Where do you see Clemson trying to take advantage of this of this Alabama team? Whether it's offense defense, would what do you see is there as a place that they're going to try to exploit? I think it's going to be the defensive line has been able to get get pressure. If Alabama's had a weakness this year, and we can call it a weakness that's relatives there. It's been whether it gets team like Montas what Jefferson Mississippi State who can rush up the middle and affect the passer would just four guys rushing. So if it comes in gonna be able to slow down it's going to be with their be with their deepest of live pipe for sure. You know in flipping it. And looking at Alabama's defense align everyone is buzzing over Williams when Williams is one of the dominant players or som- dominate the Oklahoma game. What is it about him? They kinda push him as the next great Alabama crimson tide. Divas Lama does going to have an impact on the National Football League. I don't think there's any question. He's going to do that. And it's just like the long line of Alabama guys the diva divine, you don't know their name because they've got guys like Jonathan Allen and Doron pain pain in front of. So he's learned from these guys. And you know, teams have tried to double team him with our and center bringing the running back, but his power think is motor is nonstop in just the strength that he has as a redshirt sophomore mid he affects games solely by himself. Didn't have a lot of stats this game. But man, I don't think if he was getting up the middle collar Murray gala has a little more time to throw it in his allusive. He was it was number ninety two just Regan had it back there. Cornerback to quarterback. What you see Trevor Lawrence. Is good. I made he he can he could to be a fraction like he has to be able to fill kind of like to have good feel. You've gotta you gotta be a player. And that's what he is. He's a good passer. Instead the pocket. It looks great doing it. But he's just a player. You gotta go out there and make plays. And I think you know, we've seen it now. And I think the big part of these guys are doing in highschool now they're starting seven on seven when they're middle school. They're getting these reps to typically, you know, we were out. I was playing baseball or basketball there. They're getting these reps now when they're in high school, so they're coming prepared to play college. You know, if there's one x factor firm the Alabama side in this game. Who would you say it could be. You know that that's a good question. I'm a thought I hear it's going to be the kicker s I think these big games come down to turnovers, and you got to be able to make a big kick. I thought it was going to be the SEC championship game. Luckily, Jalen scampered in for the quarterback drawn tugs out. But at some point you're going to have to make a big kick. And I think this week will be so John Parker. Just just thinking of this run here since Nick Sabin has become the head coach we touched on it briefly there at the top of our conversation here. But with a national championship this year. He would break the record currently shares with bear Bryant. For his seventh. So. When you go back and look at the body of work, and knowing how he believes success is is not a continuum, it's momentary. And it's about your ability to continue into thrive in each moment. How would you like best describe like the defining quality of this success of this continued success in this run? You know, I I think there's a lot of things in the process that he has built has stood the test of time, I think it's relentless relentless pursuit. It's no matter what's going on. He's trying to get better. He's trying to make everybody else better. He hires great people around him. But man, look what will just as assistant staff of elevating everybody around him because he knows it's not just him. You can have a good offense coordinator, you get Kirby smart and going to have talks loop. Boy, it gets good guys around him in the make some better. Lastly here we'll get you out of here on this one. I mean, you mentioned you get the nerves as a team comes out of the tunnel before the first call on everything. But this you're calling it a national championship game on the radio here for a rabid fan base. I mean, do you have do you have a call ready? You have something ready. If if you guys are able to host the crystal again, no, I don't look if you like old play by play guy been doing for thirty years. I'm just trying to act like a quarterback react to what's on the field. I don't have anyone so jets guess. I gotta develop that as years go on. Well, congratulations here on your first season as the as the color commentator for the Alabama crimson tide radio. We look forward to to watch the game. And and listening to your call in a wish L the best moment. Christianity is real Todd are those fun. They're getting to get some insight from John Parker Wilson voice of the Alabama crimson tide there. I'm sure he's he's gonna enjoy that call having not gonna chance to play in a national title game as as a player for Sabin. But now kind of getting to watch it with a bird's eye view, and we're all obviously going to be watching this game. And I from afar Bucky have been watching the pick standings, and you made a concerted effort this year to bump yourself up the standings. And I started and ran out of gas. Okay. So we know we've got to the bottom of the barrel. This is the five point game. But I mean, you know hundred to win semester, pretty good, right? It doesn't matter. Kittens sell your tied at one hundred seventeen fifty four within striking distance of DJ who is on top by a game. So this is technically a five point game right in the college pick 'em. But it doesn't it doesn't really matter. DJ is picking Alabama. So Ken sully. You guys are just explain this. Do you actually believe Clinton is going to win? Or are you just picking them have to pick them? They have to pick in order to get a win. Yeah. You have to it was two years ago, the same situation I needed Clemson that come through to beat Alabama with the five pointer to win the first of our college pick and championships. I'm now two time defending champ trying to. The three peat. And you know, what if sully and I have to do a little Nebraska Michigan ninety seven co champions UCF last year claim they were co champion. They didn't win it on the field. Sully and I are going to try to win this one on the field because going to hang your own parade. We're going to go for the Clemson Tigers in this one. Look it should be a really good game. These are two of the most talented teams in the country to teams that pretty much never lose to anybody not named Alabama. Clemson. So if Clemson wins DJ doesn't win again and solu- I end up being coach, which I'll take it at this point. I sadly, I went with my heart for the Notre Dame fighting Irish over Clemson in the Cotton Bowl had not done that. Yeah. I could have probably taken Pama and maybe had a victory. Go tigers. I have my my older brother and his wife is Clemson grad. They'll be up there in Santa Clara watching the game. So my family's support Clemson for this game. I'll support Clemson. So I'm all in as Daboh says all in Tigers for this. You can buy tickets to the game now for like peanuts. Coming down thirty bucks for national championship game ticket. They're less money than that ravens chargers game out. And stop hop was a couple of weeks ago. The reason is spot will fan bases. Come from the deep south to come all the way out west, California. And I'm not gonna lie to prices to ticket down naturalist expensive. Everything has got hotel prices up like, so I don't know. I don't know why you Vince AB AB it's fatigue as well. For these two. Maybe maybe might be a little fits in here done that just just to quickly go back. Sully was mentioning he he picked Notre Dame to win over. Clemson wasn't the only one I did it saw Solly didn't. I you. Did right bucket? You'll cata state had a steak dinner on I'll show the NFL with ten points. That would be protected ten points. They can cover. I should've takes Brian Kelly. A few more time I got a plan for you though. You just go find prime go find Dion. He may give you deal for golden corral. Oh, no, his voiding. I know. DJ to go. I know I'm have to double up like Carolina doesn't play in the end of this you so I can't I can't squeeze out. But I got. I got I got to figure out a way to kind of weasel out of weasel out of this. So look it's not gonna put you up on the top of the standings. Who you got in a game? You're not the Alabama is better position to win this because I think this is a game where to Clemson MRs Dexter Lawrence. We'll find out for sure before I think as we go into the weekend. Whether he's going to be available, and I think it's a long shot. Yeah. But if he's not available. They're run defense is drastically different without him. Oklahoma was a team that wanted to throw it. They didn't necessarily want to run it and kinda grinded. But the thing that we know about Bama they wanna pound they wanna kinda pound you. They have three running backs that can all play. They can hit it between the tackles. And without the big run stuff in the middle. I think it can be problematic. We Clemson I think this is the game where the defense kinda begins to fatigue and then on the outside. I don't know if they can match it with Alabama skill players. Don, Parker talked about all the playmakers. They have outside having four maybe five number one receiver. He is absolutely true. We'll see because they can run the quarterback especial tough match-up Clemson. But I am excited to see Trevor Lawrence because of Trevor Lawrence can kind of do it against this Alabama team. You talk about someone who's I mean, we can't even call it drafts with it would be through the roof knowing that he has a couple more years before, you know, questionable. I mean, two more years if he's able to win this year. It's unbelievable. It's nuts. But I'm with you on that. I'm picking Alabama as well. We'll run no go wire-to-wire fifteen and oh with victory and to me it comes down to the skill guys as John Parker mentioned to us five deep. And I just I feel like you know, they are as potent as we have seen on offense in in the past game. And that makes a big difference because you know, even if they need to muddy it up a little bit. We know they can they can do it on the ground. But this is their ability in the past game this year, separates them. So that's why I am going L Bama, which got what how much do you guys think the fact that Clemson has a bunch of guys that beat Alabama in a title game two years ago factors in because I think a lot of it is when you play a team like Alabama. And frankly when you play team like Clemson, you probably go into that mindset, you're hoping to beat them, but deep down you think we every break together. 'cause Don Clemson on the other hand they've been there done that last year. They got crushed. There's no way around that. But two years ago in the title game, they beat Alabama. They move the ball up and down the field. They add almost one hundred plays. And then the season before that there are still some guys on this team Christian Wilkins hunter Renfro guys that played as freshman, and they nearly beat them. So I think the mindset Alabama probably takes the filled and ten of their games a year. They've already won the second our uniforms around the field since not one of those games. I I think Clinton expects to win this. It's a good point. I don't think they're not. They're certainly not intimidated. They've been there done that against this team. I mean now this this juggernaut version of Alabama is a little bit different than the one. They beat two years ago. Yeah. I mean, I think this certain that definitely has something to do with it like that. I think you have to get past the mystique or the Ofek that it Alabama can create when they're on the field. Like just watching them. Have you ever have the opportunity to watch element washed? Come and wash them come in their splendid with all of the rotate folks with toilet paper rolls and all that other stuff like how to do it can be a lot. And then you look down to the other end, they're big they're imposing they're like a machine when you see them in warmups in terms of the way, they're going through things, but for Clemson clemson's, oh head they've seen this three times. They know exactly what it looks like they knew exactly what to expect they have of tasted their power and terms of like, they tasted physicality and tough too. So I don't think is anything they'd have to get used to really comes down to can't Clemson execute at a high enough level to knock off Alabama because Alabama appears to be a team that can give you problems not only with their office. But also with their defense. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. It's a good point a couple of points, thereby Kent as well. And having seen this this team in and beaten them a couple years ago with some of the guys that are still there for Clemson. So look can we watch it Monday night, January seventh who'd he made you take uncle Bama. I'm going bam. Because the skill guys went out on. Yeah. I'm going on a limo can take. Lamb on this. Yeah. Team. Oh, come on, David versus Goliath. I'm trying to go one in. Oh in the in the full one. Live those one though that was fun. So what else we got here? Anything else? Anything else you want to get to you? Good. No. I think. Yeah. I think it's crazy. Got a great all countdown to eat half the draft. Pat suggests one hundred days. Less middle March. We're coming at ya an NFL network. So crazy, I know, but I know all right, man. Well, as always you can check out all of our with the six content and fell dot com slash Mt. S video YouTube dot com slash NFL, apple podcasts wherever you get your podcast downloads. Subscribe and leave a comment cenex side.

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Divisional Round Red Challenge Flag Picks & Willie McGinest on Chargers vs Patriots

"Ago. Signs be cooks to by contain. Dave is Dave damage football program vailable on apple podcasts and at fell dot com slash fees. Now, here's your host day damage shit. Will the NFC playoffs get fold again? Let's figure it all out with the man seated to my immediate left. Arthur Dave damasec football program of the week. Why did we go from two to three this week because it's the play offs? And it's important. Open your ears me ready. Learn the my aunt seated the my left has taught me a great deal about the Greek game pro football about the human side of it. Even though he gets the Xs and os as well as anybody. He also long ago told me watch what happens it's about the people and the connections, and who they know just like it is in every other industry, we see that playing out in the coaching circles and the new coaching hire specifically, but we'll get to all that. And just a minute. First of all, let's say Hello to our pow from move the sticks and beyond you, hear them all over the place. As a matter of fact blow enough, Fox Sports radio. He's his his friend, Colin cowherd loves k bits in about this that and the other with them. It's jealousy. You I'd like to invite jealous. I would like an invite you want to invite you have so many other things listen. So what? I could do more enough now in day, by the way, speaking of that brand new Daves of thunder available for your listening at at your earliest opportunity wherever you find your favorite podcast. But let's talk about pro football, shall we Bucky Brooks? All right. We can talk about the coaches. We'll get everything else. I think because like I say the divisional round is important. In fact, it's a sad weekend. Really? I don't wanna bum you out buck. But. Four games this weekend. And it's like, then the following weekends all flip there only two games. And then after that Bucky, there's the big party that goes on for a week in Atlanta. And then it's over man, we're almost done. Yeah. But then we have to fund for we get to the draft season comp. Olympics and all of devastating. Oh, you have issue with the combine you it's it's the combined. Thank you for remembering this with this. You're on the right side of history. If you follow my lead on that one a combined. Tell me which is right. Combine is a piece of farming. Equip, you always go to combine is when you bring together a group of people for one purpose, which sounds closer to what it is. Now, the Kumba the combine what it does it separates the wheat from the chaff. So in a way, you could say really that was very cleverly named especially in the Hoosier state where they like their farming so on and so I listen, we don't have time for that. Let's start it off you ready. Their spaghetti hid it. Red challenge flag pigs. Oh, Bucky doesn't wanna sing. He just wants to get the business. I don't know. A unfortunately, I don't know all the songs like the little stuff that you have. I'm waiting for you to play. Like, hey, we're the Monkees and all this other stuff. Like, this isn't really my my John when it goes or the monkey that me. It's a little seventy ish seventies. This for me like. A little bit. I don't even know what that means. This show is seventies. H kind of in what sense seventies music? I look like seventy just feel like I feel like I'm the NFL films music. Don't you say what you want about me? But dare denigrate the great Sam. Need to have one of those those floor TV's that we used to have my grandma's house. I don't even the charges me antiquated. My thinking. A look different. I'm progressive Bucky umbrella, progressive minded, I mean, everything comes back around. So you're you're on the front end of it. I don't even know what that supposed to mean. I love to progressive play callers out there all on board with this thing. Did you pick the music music? I picked that music because I knew. What do you think if immense impose you doing a lot hip for fresh? Yeah. Don't understand. What you are. You calling me square. I'm not going to say, I told you feel like a seventy sitcom, Mr. cool, Mr. cool Bucky Brooks. All right. Let's start it off here. Bucky with the thought that recurring thought that back really emanating from a conversation. I had with you in this very space a couple few years ago. It is not the curse of Madden that takes down. The high end teams not the superstar that under center that takes his team to glory or wants to at least it is not any other curse other than the cursive -sposed to the team. That is supposed to win in the play offs has heaps and heaps a pressure and now more so we will start it off with the chiefs hosting the Indianapolis Colts here, and I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine. Agean who I mean, it's been on. What a great story. Oh, I lot of people didn't think Patrick Mahomes could do it. Andy Reid saw through all that. He knew Mahomes was the guy he now in sophomore year of Patrick Mahomes is the hero. He is very likely. MVP of pro football. And yet thirteen number one seed and yet those people in aero head, especially they are the loyal fans. Everybody like Arrowhead nothing like nothing like playing in Aarhus nothing. Like, that's I mean, really even more than the link. There's nothing like it those people loyal and not. But it's not even gonna be Bucky. If they face him adversity you where this the curse is supposed to came from was talking about when your up star Jaguars went into play. John Elway the thirteen and three I think is fourteen into. I think there were thirteen at three either way. The high end Elway team all that. They were great you guys. We're lucky to be in the play offs so on and so forth. You go in there. All of a sudden, you're ahead. And then the second half. What happens is the dynamic is is that the home crowd starts to say. Oh my God. We're gonna lose this game. We're not supposed to lose this game. And then that nervous energy makes its way time seventy thousand down onto the sidelines. Both sidelines. The road team is now imbued with added powers while the while that nervousness permeates. It's way into the soul of John Elway and everybody else, right? Yes. A little different. I've been on both us I've been on it like ninety six play with the Jaguars. We're going to wrote a knock off two Buffalo Bills. We own the right to play the number one CU to Denver Broncos in their place. They laughed at us when we came in. There's all kind of headlines there the big to do. They didn't take seriously, Shannon Sharpe. And those guys chirp into hoes. And then they jump out on his right out the gate like, okay, they're going to dismiss whatever. Good. The game Jaguars battle their way. Back more. We know his big pass down the sideline Jimmy Smith. We sanded Denver Broncos home. And the thing that was really interesting about playing that game is when you're in the stadium in there. The energy is all about the home team. And so as festive at the beginning of a big old party, but the longer that's you're the visiting team. And you stay close the more you feel the stadium tighten up and now the anxiety. You kinda field on this island because everyone is like oh my God. I can't lose more. See we can't these tickets being chip ship game. We can't lose. So as pressure that the thing that I try and tell people about the playoffs. The playoffs is so much different than a regular season. I was taught as a young player they'll tell you early on in training camp, Amen minutes. Four different speeds to this thing there's preseason speed regular season there's playoffs and in the Super Bowl is even beyond the play offs are. And what happens is the game. Speeds up is far more physical. We saw. Last weekend. They don't really call penalties. They let you not people at all the targeting thing. We didn't see any of that last week. Right. And so it's just a different game and the emotional roller coaster of the game. Because it's the do it nature is to finality of it. All you have to be wired to right way to do it. And so the fans also go through because I'm sure when you watch playoff game, you've probably little more emotional like the Heuser high the lows lower when you watching the game so players get their same sense. Because when you see because it occurs to you somewhere early in the second half, especially for whatever reason, I guess human beings are predisposed the negative thoughts or to understand that death is the mother of all beauty. You start to realize are beautiful season is about the die. If we don't do something here. And you say oh you start to do. The math only twenty seven minutes left in our season. If we don't do anything. And if the other team has the lead, and if you are that Los Angeles Rams and Zeke Elliott has just spending that clock on your spending. That like we gotta. The ball back. We got it. Lot of worse as you. It's not just fans. The QB starts to press. The starts the press. We gotta get it here the play call. They're like, so we always talk about they game being big. And sometimes the game is too big not only for players, but for coaches, you see guys I always act out of character do stuff that they don't do. All of a sudden you have this issues the national championship game on Monday night. Clemson Alabama early in the game. Alabama's running fake field goal. You like what in? Who who who is this like why are they playing with desperation and somebody comes from when you're on the salad. You looking like we can't stop these goes like we have to pull out all the stops and the bills and Wilson onto other stuff. And so it takes a while for you to get used to playing in that environment because of the winner, go home nature of the game. You talked about like the finality of it. Oh, you begin to fill it like that game more than any other game. You look at the clock you pay attention to the score. You always look it up at school were how much time is left. Even if your head how much time is left to get running around the clock. So it is a different thing. And so when we think about Kansas City, I was there in Kansas City. We're number one seed in ninety seven we had the number one seed we were playing the Denver Broncos ever Broncos came into our place, and we made it a switch that we should never made. We have rich Gannon who was hot poor rich Gannon, put Elvis Gurbachan. He is out. There is a playoff game is too much for him is too big. And we lose fourteen to ten and so part of this curse. They goes with the candidate chiefs Alza part of it. I know what it feels like last year. We saw them jump out and lose it. They haven't won a playoff game since ninety three. A lot of what every fan knows. We haven't wanna play. From these cases ninety three and like you like I was here. Ninety three doesn't matter. Oh, you get all of it. That's right because all into the stadium with them. Again, the difference with like say a Tennessee titans fan and a Kansas City Chiefs fan, and that's why. It's especially ripe to be victimized. Chiefs are victims are subject to potential victimization of the curses supposed to because of those specifically because of those dedicated fans who I mean this tent pole franchise in pro football the chiefs they play in the first Super Bowl. They basically with Lamar hunt. Start second pro football league. And it turns into the second half of the NFL that we now know they go to a Super Bowl, then they become this second AFL sided team to win a Super Bowl after that. They never go back to another Super Bowl. It's been a half a century. They're like their four years ahead of where the jets fans are the Browns fans. Well, yeah. Or the lie. You know? This is said we consider this chiefs team. Like, oh, it must be great to be chief San not if you liked to get the Super Bowl because they don't get there. And those people are going to be very nervous. So with that being said Bucky Brooks the Annapolis colts. I'm already here in the. Uses to not excuse. But I'm hearing the well, this isn't your normal sixty. This is Andrew luck in this defense. All right. It's a sixty. This is the division around your coming off. Oh by you have Andy Reid. We know his legendary give him an extra week to prepare. All that stuff goes about it. You got the FINA Mahomes there. There's no reason that you can lose this game at home to the or you must feel like you have to win this game. The question is will the Indianapolis Colts Kansas City Bucky Brooks? Choose. One with the coast bang. I'm going to stick with the kid. I say Mahomes gets it. What I I'm saying that he's gonna over Mahomes. Guess it. I reckon. So you know, what the record? We just talked about all this stuff game changing. And all the stuff. You know, what the young is record was last weekend. A win three autozone. Quarterbacks. Getting that first entry into the postseason. It's a little much. Shawn Watson, my my guy. I love Johnson. Yeah. He looked nothing. Like, the Shawn Watson against a Kohl's. We will see in. Everyone's about all. He loves the bright. Big stays price is different man is different. And I think it takes a while to settle in the best case scenario for the Kansas City Chiefs. But they did this last year they jumped right in front of. Say last year. So that's what they do. That's that's been the Twenty-eight teen recipe is the knock you out date. The game starts like, wait. It's fourteen. Nothing. What happened here that if that doesn't happen? I would be very nervous sitting in the stands. Not really not really. Okay. So this is kind of like a cyborg fight. So they're cyborg cyborg. Big chicks. She goes in. She just rough up like last week in two weeks ago. She she went to against Amanda news. If got knocked out all even the I well, that's what they always say Tyson premise. Premise stand the fight. So the thing is for the ended up goes they just wanna take him into the deep water right because the long this game stays tight. The more pressure goes on them. And when you think about Frank right frame Reich is a very experience coach he's also been in this thing like four times as a player they went to the Super Bowl for straight years in the Buffalo Bills. This isn't too big for him. And so he is talked about how important is to do whatever it is whatever they need to do to win the game. And so whether this run for two hundred throw for four hundred I think he's going to be very very aggressive, and what you would want to do. You wanna make Ken city play up. He'll make them chase them points. Because the longer they're down the morning Zayed. He gets on not only them but on the head coach, remember Andy Reid. I completely agree with Andy next always question like game management time management. Kenny win the big when they've been a number of failures in the postseason as much as we like to say that that doesn't bother thinking about that. What is he a human being or is he or is he a cyborg the human element matters? And so if if I'm Indianapolis, and I'm playing they're just kind of want to take it just kind of take it into see if we can just get into the void quarter way. We used to call. It is let's take a quart at a time. Let's see if we can win the first quarter don't worry about entire game. Let's see if we can win the first and get into the second quarter who maybe we can get to have time just tight within three or I mean if. Doing game Taff time. This what you want to say they're going to be nerve. They wanna be nervous. And also the way that you quarterback place. He's been cool as a cucumber, but he's a risk taker and it won't always come up his way. And so while by the way, as you say takes minute to get used to to acclimate to that. Well, that's a bad that doesn't mix up very well with what we're saying about that. The chiefs have to come out and jump to cheat the colts if they're going to win this game. I don't think that it's nip and tuck down the line Mahomes is making her relic. Plays late in the fourth to do way out. Andrew lock is more likely to be the guy. He's been in there. Like the game slows down the game slows down form. So that what would you say then? So if you lasting on this game. Then what would you say to either Andy Reid or Eric b enemy or or Patrick Mahomes or all three of them if they were seated before you right now to get mentally right for this one. Having known, Andy, whatever, I think you have to be yourself. But I think you also have to play the game to right way when you're at home when you're. At home, the games will different because man, you really wanna play from a head. So if actually I'm them, I'm really all gas no breaks at the beginning. Like, I wanna make sure that fancy us playing the same style. Don't want to be conservative. All the fun sexy stuff that we've done to double motions, triple motions tyreek hill. I wanna make sure the Tyree keel in Travis Kelsey testable early and often. And no one has talked about this, right? It's kind of into like we haven't talked about Kareem hunt being gone and not being on the squad. I continue to roll on. But here's where the loss of Kareem hunt to really affect them. Because if the game gets out of sorts normally what you wanna do to slow it down to get your quarterback on the control is turn around and handed off. Do you feel good enough about David Williams and some of the other guys that's our wear should be ready to go. But are they good enough to carry this in the postseason? We know that we know that it can read hunt was a guy that we consider maybe an elite runabout he's not there can one of these guys played in. Elite level for two or three games to help them. Get over at key. Brooke says, no they will not. And it'll be the colts the six seed moving onto the AFC title game. All right there you have it am going to take the chiefs on the idea that Andy Reid with two weeks to get ready for this one is going to have something ready. So that they are by the five minute Mark of the first quarter that they are have a touchdown lead. But you know, Marlin MAC and T Y Hilton. It's not like those guys ain't splashy themselves in can't make a big time. Play suddenly spook the entire crowd. You know, they they make a a splashy play early. That's gonna get things sideways. Like you say, all right. The other game on Saturday here in the Los Angeles Coliseum. Now, we don't have to worry about the home crowd factor. Putting pressure on the hometown or the hometown QB because it really might be more of a home field advantage for the visiting Dallas Cowboys erica's too. I mean, I do think it's going to be about fifty fifty tourism America's team. Pittsburgh Steelers, can you for America's no I announced two years ago that that is an and you know, I as nothing to do with that. I don't understand team. What did you change MVP in Heisman Trophy and everything else every year? Why do they get to be America's team forever? We have to like them all of America must get behind the team. No matter the state, no matter who's on it. I mean, I grew twenty seventeen. It was the Philadelphia Eagles. I've erica's team Filipi. Sure. Chris long and Malcolm Jenkins arm in arm. They go on the win the Super Bowl. But I was a statement for society team. Oh, yeah. There were a lot of people not rooting for the eagles that. I wanna see Bella check at another one come on come on wake up Bucky. Here in Dallas Cowboys. It's the Rams in the Coliseum. Choose. I'm american. So I have to go for America's you're not take you really think the Cowboys are gonna win this game. The worst match for the LA Rams because the absolute worst me cut because defensively the cowboy speed is overwhelming this suffocating. And when you look at the Rams, and I liked the Rams they've been a nice story shot McVeigh's done a great job of elevate into quarterback. They have terrific running back and Todd Gurley who was from decrypt. But when you look at their their players like their players on the rubber woods Brandin cooks. They're nice players. But I don't know if they're a level players on their own merit. When I look at the Cowboys. And I'll look at the speed that they have at the front line there pressure that they can get DeMarcus Lawrence and some of the other guys do linebackers feel like tank Lawrence my right in saying this. I like when I dislike when people casually throw out. No one gives that guy his do. But I do feel like tank Lawrence for one of the one of the best guys three downs out. There is is Tang. Outstanding player they have Jalen Smith lane Vanda s two young linebackers. Argue the best one two punch at the position in the second day Brian Jones Byron Jones has played terrific for the majority of the season. He's been victimized and giving up some place of late. But man, I just love with their secondary can do because they'll lock up and play man to man, Chris short breeze lot of energy and a lot of knowledge to this. Because look he was in Seattle for longtime. He knows how the Rams like to get down. I think they do it. Interesting point. I didn't think about that. And then on offense Ezekiel Elliott is kryptonite. The Rams are team with Aaron Donna in Dhammika sue they wanna rush to passer and the thing that pass Russia's don't like they don't have to deal with the run. And they definitely don't like when you start double team into the point of attack. And with the Dallas Cowboys will do anticipate them doing. They pounded at them. They run it out because when you go and you look the Seattle Seahawks. Played him twice both sides to see how over two hundred yards on the ground and. S typically, not something that you can correct. If you're weak against ruined you can continue to struggle against. And so for the Cowboys it plays into the form of they don't grind it out. Deck prescott. Also, ask them with his legs. And then it's about a more Guber Dila would Akif to leave and Marcus Peters while I hear you on all that. But two things this is completely a hypothesis on my part, but I suspect at least that Wade Phillips has been around the block and knows how to tune up defense for playoff specific games and teams that are going to suddenly lean more heavily on the run. Isn't he going to be able to create a scheme that puts Aaron Donald and Dominic and sue and the rest of the fellows in a spot to our priority today is stopping twenty one. It's not anything else. It's not getting after four. It's takeaway Twenty-one can't they cook something up without high talent that they have out there. And by the way, the defense has been pretty good in the last five six weeks. Okay. Let me. This is you ever lay bricks? A lot of bricklaying. Oh, okay. Just imagine if this week, and I said, Dave, I'm gonna have you come over to the Caribbean. We're gonna lay bricks all day. That's not really your MO. Right. Right. So you ask him to pass Rochas to take on double teams to split them to love that dirty world. Yeah. That's not happening. So if you to Dallas Cowboys early off and you wanna punish them and pound him. And if you have success, and you keep different doing what they really want to do say, I I'm not saying, I'm not I don't think you're directly casting aspersions on the so-called greatest defensive player of the twenty first century to my I it seems like Amazon is that he's outstanding. Well, it's a weird. That's a weird thing. Not just not good against the run. But but otherwise, I'm the best defensive player of all time even bland on the defensive interior. I don't kiss checks for for stopping her annoyed cares about that. Here's about like stop to run on a big money thing. Everyone looks at the sex. And so we saw last week. I'll give you an example you saw the Indianapolis Colts run for over two hundred yards today. Cloudy JJ what you know what? Because it hurts it her. Erz stopping the run is physical people running at you. Bide his own bodies on top. You. That's not the fun part everyone signs up to do the fun stuff. The fun stuff for defensive lineman is the a quarterback. And so they want to try to stop the run early. But if Dallas is persistent and consistent, then they can run it, and they can make those guys tap out. I think this is a team that despite the lack of full on home field advantage, and all that sort of thing. I do think this team could definitely get victimized by supposed as well. Jared Goff big spot for him second year in that big spot play in January lot of questions about like again. It's one of those situations where like, wow what a great season. I'm sure Sean McVay and everybody on down understanding, it means nothing if we lose again now we're getting into this space. You talked about all the other players out of it Shami grazed at one of has to pressure. I what I'm saying. Now. Now, he's being in that direction. Come january. It's all Mirage. These tree and everybody wants the next Sean McVay. So for all of the people who other people to get jobs besides Shymyck van his buddies, everyone is over here like capital? All of a sudden all of a sudden, the everyone else has done I have learned from you how to tweak the crowd so on Twitter. I am sitting there waiting on Saturday. Bob's new wait notice. John McVay people is what we want visit on the next Sean McVeigh. So there might be a small part of me that is like man, it might be a little fun to sell validation on us validate, but just kinda poke the bear little bit. They go to I've seen you do it. But the bingles so I've taken your recipe for Dillon with being fans and I've implemented. I hate all thirty two teams. Thirty two. I know you hate the being now I resident. Don't bother you like accurate like if bay made me laugh if Baker Mayfield came in and gave you a number six jersey, you aware like it wouldn't bother you. Yeah. But if Andy Dong came and gave you like a little new era fitted with I've met, and he's a nice fella. But if you came and gave you a jersey and a fit you wouldn't wear that. Because you don't you don't like the bungle. Yeah. 'cause they're silly. I think they're silly. They amuse me like a class. You're the randomness. You're going to ram taking the Rams, but I will say what you just extend there very very casually is that what catches my untrained eye is the Dak Prescott when they start using him in that RPO that devastates now you have to Moose's who might rhyming Zeke is is super fast on top of everything else. But when they're most effective offensively is when is win four is putting it in zeke's Bali, and then and then creating the threat that he might run at the edge that that's when they really are good. But they don't do a ton of it. I don't know why they don't that seems to be gutless for whatever little hint does know what his his quarterback does. Because if he really understood with DHEC Fresca could do here running maybe four or five. Yeah. Times a game just to make them keep an honest. 'cause all will do is. Enhanced would Zeke Elliot does does use them as like a little side dish. He's little sweet potatoes. Besides stay. That's exactly right. Yeah. That's by the. Dak Prescott throws the ball a little bit better than he gets credit for right? I know he has inconsistent stretches, but still he's not abject bum. They're they're plenty of cubeys worse than him. Well, I have a good question for you after we're done with these with these pictures, actually, I'll ask it to you right now. We'll take a halftime detour from the game because I want to do to her it occurs to me as we look as Haskins now is coming out there. Couple more kids on their way, we have to wait a couple years for them. And Josh Rosen. Mike get traded. And all this time goes stirred it up. No, I'm not stirring, anything up. Is it possible that we are? Now, I I've been saying for like the last six months now is it possible that all five of these QB's these first round QB's are going to work out from the 2017 draft beyond that. Oh, and then the Joe flacco thing is the other thing that makes me think about this is, you know, Joe flacco he'll be you know, so he has to leave Baltimore, and he'll go somewhere else and be a starter there. Like will. He for sure. Because this is what I think there are so. Oh, many, you know, better than I with all the recruiting stuff in the high school kids and the junior high kids and so on. I feel like there's such a pipeline. Now such a focus on developing quarterbacks that every every NFL teams going to have a good quarterback. It's not really it's not dire. This this not possible. Kind isn't it? Everybody's going to have one who doesn't have one. Now Bucky like three teams don't have a viable QB option. Right. Right. But true. Then once these kids in college pipeline start to arrive, then I mean, then drew Brees Tom Brady. Oh move on. But still in Rothlisberger and ally, and Phil, but the point is I think all I think that this thing this desperate need to get a semi decent. QB is about to be a thing of the past. Okay. Halftime over now. Back to the action. It's the chargers. It's the patriots in good deep dive with Willie mcginest on this game upcoming. So we won't spend a ton of time on it. But Bucky Brooks. Old man. Rivers versus Tom terrific. Choose TV, twelve we disagree on everything. Another challenge lack of a cut ice cream or whatever. Like, you know, feel the rivers has never been doing. They've never been Tom Brady. You're the one who you just said minutes ago, you said fifteen minutes ago, you know, this team hasn't won a playoff game since ninety three. All right. Well, what's out have to do anything with the Phil rivers is thinking about that? He's never beaten them ever. What does that say to you? So okay. So your math on that. Ballot. Check knows how to own. And I just think as hard to go against the patriots at home in Gillette. Whatever reason we can talk about how they don't have a lot of talent. But I believe that they just figure out ways to win this wants Pacific game. And I think this game's going to be determined by the ability to run the football. Everyone is going to expect Tom Brady to throw it all over the yard. I think they're gonna give it to Sonny Michelle. There's no question there we've seen how they started Morphing into this old school team. And in fact, this version of the patriots reminds me of the early version, I believe it's come full circle these pages. Remind me of the two thousand one thousand three two thousand four pages that they just kind of run into have a bunch of no name receivers. They just kind of find a way to win. It's nothing sexy about what they do. But it just kind of find a way to have more points than you at the end ob- Aleve with the charges coming in and doing all of this stuff with those little DB's. That was great against the ravens if they put all those little dues on the field. I think the page is gonna try and run them off to feel. It's funny because that's. Mike, my comments compare favourably with what you just said what what you'll hear me say in a little bit to Willie mcginest. I'll just say the same thing to you. Because at agrees for all the hype around this game, obviously, marketing wise, it's going to be rivers v Brady, but the matchup that determines this one to me are the two high in rookies, the two the two first round guys schone Michelle versus Derwin James if James Kinne sl- help slow down. I think during James is going to be a rob gronkowski the thing. So I said because he's big he's physical. It is easier match to put him there. And then have someone else deal with those back. Now, if Gus is able to get those guys on the field and kind of match up with him and take you gotta take the small wall away like is different. So in baseball. Oh, let's let him get his and moving over though, let them paper coaches like lockup take away the running back take away the stuff. Make Tom Brady takes us because they don't have anyone that can really run pass the defense. So really clamped them down and make them take. Shots. And so I think you see more man to man from the chargers, you won't see as much of that Jaguars hybrid covered threes, you won't see that as much more man to man make him make plays in the thing about Tom Brady is Tom Brady prefers the photo. Ball inside the numbers make him. Notable out the numbers jammed milita field. Make him throw to the boundary and see if he has enough on strength on today to make those plays. If you're interested to hear at Bucky or anyone else stick around 'cause mcginnis basically points at James white as a major factor as he has been in so many postseason games getting out in space in the flat and making plays from there. That's what James can help take away air go that would force Brady to try push lose ergo air, go. It's it's part of my seventies vibe the hell does that. Even mean, I'm from the seventies. Do you get that MVP? Do you understand that from the seventies? I mean, I am. But that doesn't mean I have like a seventy vibe to me does it like you like to use like old time equally Shays and like. Like that's not necessarily in the vernacular right now. Everyone hurts my feelings. That's what I don't be sensitive now. All right here, we go now nine v nine Bucky Brooks. How about that? It's neat when that happens. Oh, saying mic. Yeah. Drew brees. Yeah. Everybody's favorite QB of the 2017 version of America's team the Philadelphia Eagles favorite quarterback, by the way. I keep saying port and no-one no-one in the time. Poor Carson Wentz. Poor Carson Wentz match. Poor guys gotta stay in there on the sidelines or pretend these happy about this. You know? I'll be in the locker room. Just I don't wanna be where a camera. You don't. You. Don't think he's he loves this. I see him smile any must love it. You you wouldn't be happy for me just to say for whatever reason like you had to go with your out of the country. And I decided I'm I'm hosting. I'm co hosting today damage. And I win like a little a little m you wouldn't be happy that I- hosting your show won an EMMY, you wouldn't be happy about that. Does that mean show him you wouldn't be happy about that? You still get a piece of it? We still get you an EMMY, but is Bucky Br. Tonight. Keep getting paid. That's will be the major you still get paid. But like the IMI is mine name. So right here, we have the IMI, but my name is on the thing. But as for the d- P program, but I love that. I love when people are like what what are you talking about? Carson what he will car. You do see him on the sidelines. He looked very he was laughing at Bill. Yeah. He's thrilled with what's going. I take it. You wouldn't be having. I'm disappointed, by the way. That's isn't it so much worse for once they share than it was last year. MVP lies the he could be mar you could martyr him and say, oh that should have been you eleven you. We're going to be the MVP. You would have done the same thing. We weren't going to the playoffs until foles took over. I'm roundabout this now is that. Right. Do you want the winning quarterback of the franchise quarterback? Listen, I which one you won't because I mean, we can say like your hot hot. He's hot. He's been winning. They went on these games. And I mean, let's say like for storylines and in this picnic because the storyline. Oh, you you're gonna do the eagles Saint. Choose eagles. Go ahead eagles sway complete this agreement. Keeping vision around runs red zero for four agreement on all the home team's. No, I picked the chargers. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're picking three road teams history suggests south come out on the winning side of this doesn't matter right now doesn't matter. Clothes. Make your case a practical case for the eagles who just got whipped. And I know that they're playing differently with falls versus went. But as I always point to and it's pretty consistent trend that you can look at and pro football on the twenty first century when one pro football team annihilates another pro football team that trend doesn't suddenly get turned on its ear five weeks later. Think it wasn't a close game. They they humiliated them. I know they have pieces back in the second area thing the thing. That's what Marie has been saying. He's saying, oh, no. Those guys are angry humiliation. Yeah. Anger. You have to be the flip somebody off in the game after touchdown, Malcolm. Jinx after he gave it puts us down turned around and gave Sean Payton Aberg. Think about as mad as you may be on the four or five like how much would it take you to be like, you know, what? Call me a seventies guy again, you'll find out all about it. Imagine just imagine just imagine that. So to think about that. Then they joked they ran up the score. They put on ski mask and did all this other stuff. And when you do all of that talking because then then they did all that excessive talking after the game and audit of just a lot human. You talked about the human element, man. Come on man, this personal I think, but right now, I mean, I in a practical sense. I'm much more the guy like the emotion will will reveal itself this way an impact the game. But to me practically Xs and os. I think it's not Alvin Kamara so much as it is Mark Ingram in this game. And I don't know what the eagles. If you come into this game. You said no thirteen no forty one. Right. Anybody else you have at it. So if marketing has a big game, which Brad and we'll live with that. But we're not going to do. We're not going to Elvis mortgage loose, and we're definitely not going to Thomas lose make Tig Inc. A million passes make someone else do something. But I'm not going to let those guys now. Just this not as normal MO to do a whole bunch of brackets, exotic stuff, whatever. But I think this is a game where they may have to resort to some of those tactics. You cannot let people beat you with their best players make the backup singers. Do it. Don't let beyond say Millette, let let others Michelle and all them Kelly rolling. Let them sing. But don't let beyond say don't get Bobby onsite destiny. They have to be committed to letting someone else do it. They cannot let the stars have to be game. All right. I like it. I guess I again, though, it's not like the defense is in New Orleans is mediocre. Even at this point. It's it's in the upper half upper have, but it's kinda like kinda fraudulent it's nine. I mean, it's fine. They're winning games and doing some stuff, but they're not a dominant unit. They play they have one pass Cam. Jordan, Shannon rankings is pretty good. But in the secondary. They can you got in gotten lie. Zeal app, we've seen people find him. He could potentially be WALDO in this game. And WALDO means like, you know, we played into pool. That's one of the things Marco Polo or any doses. Whatever you wanna call them. We're trying to find the guys who do it best. The QB's are the most successful are the ones who can ide- who the liability is in the secondary. Don't let us watch them be mean to. Don't thrown at them. Throw an atom thrown at them. All right. Great stuff Bucky Brooks. Excellent stuff despite the mean-spirited talk their mean-spirited. Do you think do you really think that that Josh Rosen? Mike get traded. That would be a weird thing to do. I don't think. So I don't think the train. Yeah. But something that's on the next day or so to come to calm down because his he'll get his feelings hurt. That's right. Well, rap sheet is already saying that the cardinals are insiders are saying it's not gonna happen. But yeah, when someone has to make a statement, this is guy we love him. We building around it audit other stuff. I mean, imagine if those guys came and after I got the EMMY, and they didn't say non we this is shit show even bugged integrates filling. And like you wanna hear that you won't be. I wouldn't eat. Well, reassures even though you've somehow jumping time machine to pay me of is it back in the seventies. The seventies. What that means the Porteous family? I I know what the party. I know what happened in the seventies. What I'll I have some connection to it. I don't know just decor. Everything just everything or it. Just reminds me of the seventies. Are you mad that your shirts not up there? 'cause we can we can change that. If that's what if that's what this means spirited attack is I didn't even know until you pointed out didn't know that don't have. I don't have a shirt up to Willie in a Brown jersey. He's a Browns legend Willie mcginest. Yes. He played for the Browns. You know that he left his other team. And then went and played for the Browns. Does he know that he is a Browns jersey? No, please don't tell him. Look this your browser. Yes. Sean O'Hare and clear. What is you Chano O'Hare has mustard on it because he wants when he was a rookie. When in at halftime of a game ahead a hot dog and had a Weiner. He had the hit Weiner sauce. Intercessory asti. All right. What do you want me to call it? This is sounds perverse. All right. Listen. Oscar Mayer was good enough. Oskar myers. Good enough for damage Shak. Either way. O'hare went into the the trainer. He said. I'm really hungry. Can you get me something to eat in the equipment, man? He said go-to stall number three and he Madam in their delivered him a Weiner. And he gave mustard packets. That's that's a nice that's going the extra mile by the by the guy, and they'll hair is. Well, you know, what if I want to enjoy it? I'm gonna enjoy it all the way. So he tried to do the mustard, and it's grade. And then he and then he walked. Any walks out of the stone. You walks out of the stall. And who's the only other person standing there in the bathroom head coach, Chris Paul? Palm. Wow. Chris Palmer, and and a c. O'hara made eye contact with Chris Palmer, did you shook his head no hair says I knew I wasn't going to be playing. That's true. But listen, that's all rear view mirror stuff. We can look ahead together. If Brooks needs his Bucky back, we should put that up there. Just so we could see the the full name on the back of the jury. The buffalo one yet the name. But keep choices who's the first pick in the draft. I picking let's get your first pick. Let's get the one I overall pick knock draft. And then we're done, Nick. Both would be the first Nick by still all the questions all the stuff. It's going to make difference. He'll still be the dude. Arizona coroner's. They have to get a pass rusher. All right, Buckey Brookshire. You're going to the senior bowl coming up next weekend. And then I'm going to the senior bowl. You can check all the coverage out on NFL network. How about that, you know? And look I did like that. And the other thing I would like to see this is the time of the year. Wow. Listen, I would like to see you know, what I think about the loser Bill that would that would really jazz. We've talked about this the two teams by record play each other in between the title games and the Super Bowl. And then the winner that game gets the first overall pick makes it more interesting doesn't it trying to do like a soccer like Premier League when they? Yeah. You're playing down or something like that. Like, wow, that's relegating. This this is more positive 'cause if you win a game if you're a bum team and you win the game. Now, you get the first overall pick. So you're playing for something and people say the cynic say, yeah. But why would a quarterback who if the best player available is a QB in the draft. Why would the QB try to play? Well. Well, then that's something as the head coach, you got to figure out gotta work that out if you're the head coach this creative about you. I also would like to see your connected, the NFL and college football. Maybe you could connect these dots and bring back the great college football stars against the defending Super Bowl champs over a good. Do what about if we did the worst team in the NFL against college football all star? In January, wouldn't that be a fun? What would be in favor of bringing back? The superstars. I've been I've been talking with people online about the superstars it's your mind in the seventies. You're the one who just said you wanted imag why they're started clever. How would you do in the who would win the superstars if we did it here at the NFL media? Are they Reggie Bush would probably win it. He looks like he's really Reggie Bush. He takes a long time to get ready. He looks like he's in. And when you see him come in. It's an ordeal coup would win you or DJ Daniel, Jeremiah he played college quarterback man defendant. What the things are. Yeah. We'd like to think that I would win. Who do you think would win me or Greg Rosenthal does tough? Now, you've salted me this stuff one. Oh, stop. It is a tennis guy. What are you talking about? He's like a little collar Murray. Oh, stop it that now now you've gone too far because I know I like to have fun, but sometimes. Competition because I know I've seen you throw it. He tell you there. 'cause this. Oh, I start right before the season. I was throwing passes to eighty four Antonio Brown. That's maybe what started the whole dust up is like the surface. We get a QB like damage check. That guy's got it. I like that left. I like it. You missed it up. What did I mess up? You ruined the fabric of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tell you stories I want to hear more about that. But we'll cut it off here because we've got two months before the trade deadline actually, just because it's everybody else's way. And then will he be on the Steelers in September of twenty nineteen jersey? He's out. Yeah. I think so he's gonna be in the bay area. I for Cisco. Hey, listen. I when I'm pushing I'm trying to work out with David Carr is a deal that we get two of those first round picks. And we'll send you eighty four all of a sudden Derek Carr why? Because Gruden doesn't want them a Kyle Shanahan, Gandel juice. All right either way. We'll see I also think time heals most wounds, and I think if they laid out that you might be like, all right? I agree. I don't know what promise. Threw the ball at them. It has nothing. The fact that you know, shoot a boy you so untrustworthy. Juju is the number one receiver this disrespectful. I mean, come up. Are you really going to do that? Yes. Really is all right now, I have to ask one more question disrespectful. He disrespected it's also disrespectful to not show up for the for the last regular season. Also to ball at me. Call me out in front of my buddies. I mean front of your have a little more tact. I mean. Marie with the back and forth of like moving the goalposts. Is they say about what's allowed seventy today. You wear it every day you ever, you jersey you act like I'm not critical thing. I always make excuses for absolute you and all the Pittsburgh people go on him that man to do just never the ultimate past. I have. I mean, how could you possibly say that after the number of conversations we've had over the years? Yeah. But you don't say publicly though, I do too. And I absolutely do at one and two the thing that I say recently out or even said around the draft went after Mason Rudolph was picked rods burger such team as he doesn't comport him. So does he doesn't comport himself like a franchise quarterback who but my pushback on? That is always who does who does right far Brett farve is the only Guy Roux AB, Philip rivers who all the guys love and all the guys are gonna follow in this raw movie. Tom Brady, really, Tom are you positive? He's he's the one who had Jimmy Garoppolo traded away boon. That's that's exactly right. This time that goes, but. Burger isn't competing when he's like why are you drafting my backup? They're all like that. They're all like that Tom Brady he doesn't bad mouth teammates. But his wife does ROY come on say this is what I'm talking about. I can poke holes and all these Oba what about this guy. What about you know, that his wife's independent woman? I'm. Rogers Aaron Rodgers a leader of men. That's what he does. He's he's a raw raw guy come on guys. Excited when he does the discount. I'd say you prove my point with with with your with your casual sarcasm improve any point. You just did you agree with me without agreeing with me issue quarterbacks issue. He's coming to nominated. It's gonna be an issue when he's putting on a goal jacket. I don't disagree with. You is an imperfect soul who put on a go jacket. When team is short. Ooh. Offense lineman. Canes. Does those only guys wants to get paid outside him you notice I get a contract extension cover. I thought he was gonna retire thought. He's worried about his health and sellers. Sellers, selling ready, but breath. Hey, happen, whom I don't know if I would be twenty million who. Okay. Well, listen, another great Joe Montana. He didn't like he didn't like the situation in San Francisco either. As it turns out every every every NFL starting quarterback. It's a weird thing. They all have big egos. What a funny thing they're paid twenties of millions of dollars anyway spaghetti and MVP again again with this crap damasec, it's because he Bucky you see you can't make this about Dave. It's Bucky poked at me, and I had the defendants Eddie you was again doing that Rothlisberger stuff right there like you pointed to it just own up and be like, what is my fault, Iran, long, etc. Cetera. Bring to the team in just like, you Bucky Bucky wasn't Blackie's bookies making me go. I don't make you this your show. You know, what maybe it's into love. Anyway, it's I who's learned. Burger is a role model, and I have copied his behaviour to my detriment to the detriment of my audience. And I apologize for that. Yes. Eddie spaghetti. You have something to say, I enjoyed Bucky go twenty. Lucky? He's not going to be here. And it was. Still going to be here. Then what it was enjoyable when we're waiting Morita Tuesday was enjoyable and not waiting waiting for you to sprint ankle. So I can so I can. You're welcome anytime. Let's get on that Bucky Brooks jersey thing. Let's get we'll put we'll get that up there. Nineteen Seventy-three four seventy three twenty two up there though. Can we get one either from the pack was I don't wanna be like high maintenance. But can I get a twenty two? No, I like the Bucky Brooks Eighty-one wanted twenty two was you can plainly. See you don't get to make the choice. Twenty two was the Heisman up to what do you mean? Why we did that like eight years ago, we do to highs. What was the Heisman race? We used to do and digital. Yeah. That's right. Say Bucky Brooks members is roots. Dave, save my NFL media. Hey stream every NFL playoff game live on your mobile or tablet through the NFL or Yahoo sports app. Check it out. This is anywhere you go. By the way, I'm going with my little boy to a Pittsburgh Penguins vs LA kings hockey game on Saturday night. And so I will I will be using this very twenty first century technology to enjoy the second half of the Rams Cowboys game that the Rams are gonna win as I told you earlier, but could listen to Bucky either way, that's it for buck. And now, let's get to number fifty five Cleveland Browns legend and beyond to here. A deep dive on Lynn Swann's USC. But but before that though patriots chargers mcginnis choose. Dave dinner that don't. Dave. All right. Let's get to it. Now. It's this week's addition of flake it or Megan presented his always by head and shoulders and regular here on the segment, and and on the DSP it is Cleveland Browns legend as they hire their new head coach, Freddie kitchens. Also, he toiled up in New England for the for the patriots won a ring or three ish. Also USC also. Yeah, USC we'll see if we have some time for an update on that. That's flu. Boy, that's a bad one. We're feeling good about yourself. Why do I allow already in attack now aimed attack mode? I'm listen believe me you and I have mutual shame on this one. Because while Europe patriots guy in a USC guy. You don't like to see Liam gods who also a Cleveland guy. But yeah, you're so you're feeling good there. But also on the other side of things you have you have Lynn Swann, kind of whatever whatever went on with cliff Kingsbury and everything where Lynch. Swan toil in the NFL wide receivers wearing black and gold, not exactly distinguishing themselves for good things in twenty nine hundred. So far any who let's not talk about the have nots. Let's talk about the have shall we? And I want to focus on that patriots game. It's a fascinating one. Of course, we always I mean what else is new. The patriots are into the divisional round coming off by here and in ED's fill rivers and his pals. After a what I would call very impressive victory. It was against ball. Yeah. Well, because I keep calling it I called the ravens in the in the last six weeks or so a knuckleball in a world of fastball taking I took the San Diego Chargers and a close are the Los Angeles chargers plan that game, but Los Angeles chargers did well, you know, what let's start there. So Gado, I don't like that a lot of good good. Any of you guys high five and through the glass ity? Here's what I want to do with this one. We don't know what the weather is going to be willing to be co or lifelock. Or so that's not a big game day morning be on the lookout for fifty five up there and his his old neck of the woods, their act slapping us. It's willy and all that kind of. Gonna talk to coach ballot. Check when you're up. We'll talk to everybody. I got friends on both sides. Daytime like win a big playoff game Bill. Ballot. Check is like, hey willy. Let's about come in before the game. We'll talk for that. But that's why I went announce mortar noth- to notice stay out of the way. Like, I was a plate. So I get it. You don't wanna talk to a bunch of seems like day, get me. I would go to long in the converse about saying you don't want to be a distraction, even with Tom. I'll come give them a hug, we'll talk for quick minute. And I'm out like get ready for the game this ballot. Check say like, I know I have to get ready to put my cutoff sweatshirt on and all that kind of stuff but quickly Willie. How's everything going back in LA for you? We don't talk about. We'll just talk about. Hey, good meals lately, really quick on the opponent's. How you feel the day? What's going on? How's the family real quick? And got a big a day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, coach. I see you at that. Again. Would you ever listen, you were you're one of the tent ball guys from the from the start of the dynasty? Thirty. And obviously ballot. Check speaks very flatteringly about Willie McGuinness. Would you have the temerity? And does he have the interest for you to say to him an hour two hours before the game to say like, hey, coach, not for nothing. But I noticed this about Phil rivers. He'll take for Mason right game day, fifteen seconds before the gays. I right. If it'll help if it makes sense is something he probably already knows. And it'll be like, yeah. I thought about that. Or I saw that good point. You know what I mean? Like, I think the great is information, the take would you ever say to him? Like if I were you Josh mcdaniels I wouldn't throw as much today. That's too big a note. I wouldn't say if I were you these guys are well equipped. And they have a game plan in place. They they know all the do's and don'ts. That's the difference between you and me. I'd be like if if it were me, this is what I would do every like. We don't care who you are. And we don't know your name. Please leave the premises for. We have the thirties. Come and get you. All right. I wanna talk about about the chargers I have been saying since before the season that this team is headed to the Super Bowl by record the second best team in the AFC even better than the team there. Visiting up in New England this weekend. Let's see if we can divide flavored or make it who is the key to this game by identifying as the game raps up. They'll say the MVP this one is fill in the blank. We'll start with Philip rivers. Is he the MVP this game? Could be I think quarterback plays is crucial. We saw that in a few games. We saw Dallas game. We saw against Baltimore Philip rivers. But to me the MVP of that game against Baltimore with Philip rivers was the defense because of what they were able to do to you know, Lamar Jackson. Remember, they went up twelve nothing. They couldn't get in the end zone for a while. And if you had any offense on the other side of the ball. Ball. It would have been a different outcome, but they didn't. And then Phillip make good decisions to finish. And he made some key throws down the line of finished. But it was a tight game up until then, but I will say now you're not going to Lamar Jackson. You're going against Tom Brady. A lot of people's been very critical of this play in the last few weeks. He will come out on fire. He will come out on a win this game at all costs. So now quarterback play is crucial on the other side. You do have a running game. You do have a lot of weapons on the outside. But you're going to have to play at a certain level at a place where the patriots are not used to losing. And you're not used to winning. Well, I mean, yeah, I the QB is significant on some level. No matter what pro football game you're talking about. There's no way not the 2017 Jaguars. Not the twenty eighteen ravens not anybody immune to at some point game. Your guy has to be able to make throw or a few Sorella story. I won't say he needs to go in and score for. But he needs to go in and make critical place. So so Philip rivers. You're gonna say flake it is not going to be the MVP of this game. I'm saying, he's not okay. Let's go to the other side of that number twelve then coming out on fire. Tom Brady, why do you say he's gonna when you say he's going to be motivated the play. Well, I think he will play really well right now, I don't think it's going to all come down at Tom Brady either. I think defense is going to have a big part in this. The patriots defense. I think would Tom we've seen a variety of defy. I mean of offense the last few weeks, I think it's going to come down to how to backs play. I think it's going to come down to guys like Daryl Patterson, the wild marred, who's not the big name guy who's very critical, and what they do authencity Philip door set that guy was taken over for Josh, Gordon. So I think it'll be more of a role player type thing versus the guys that we're used to seeing going out making plays a quarterbacks going to have to be solid. But. There's going to be -tunities Foote's guys that get the ball in space to make place especially in special teams. What could do Patterson? That's big. We saw big that wasn't a Dallas game. So I will say the defense and role players in my opinion are the guys who really really need to step up. Yeah. You know, you, and I have talked about this for I would say the last six eight weeks. Maybe is that the emergence of number twenty six Sony. Michelle, it seems as though it's not a secret. Everybody knows now that they're giving the ball to the cave is back to he's a really like him in a lot of different situation. He like him on that we'll and stuff and managing white. They give him. Play all the bags will play and they'll have different roles. Well, handful for I mean, listen everybody all have a make it or we call. It you call. I mean, listen, we can get to the end of the novel right here want to are you saying twelve year MVP of the game? No, okay. All right. We press on then. Let's talk about who we were just who. I just mentioned there number twenty six Sony. Michelle the rookie. This has a poor man's equivalents to John Elway with getting over on with Terrell Davis a little bit or Peyton Manning leaning on his defense is Tom Brady. No disrespect. It's not that people have been. I wanted you save over very critical of his play very critical of the same him. Gronk all the guys. He's forty forty one. That's I mean, he doesn't look the same wanna league MVP lesser. Okay. But but you it's doesn't matter. We can use age. Yes. We can Willie. You know that I do a half a season of or five games probably of not playing. Well means it's because of your age. Bad sound silly? But you could play well like the first eight games. And then go say, okay. So perfect example. Is it drew Brees age the reason why he didn't play? Well, the last four weeks at a season we didn't play well in Dallas. Maybe we're talking in VP though, he's an MVP race him that mom's. Well, well, first of all patrimonial, Jay Z envy. No. I'm just saying. I hear you this conversation. Right. You broke a record this year. Another record. I hear you. But but as a best Kapoor's you in the league, correct me if I'm wrong what I've said for quite some time. Now is it sounds weird to say out loud? But it is it doesn't seem like boy, he's slowly we said that too. Not looking it's like a one day. They're really good. Then the next day there you said at two years ago, and then he was the Super Bowl. Okay. I'm just asking the, you know, better than I do about Grady. I wanna see it before I say it though like you can't you can't be the Super Bowl in VP win the Super Bowl, and then be the MVP and break Super Bowl records in the passing game. And all that and say, oh you fell off last year. You were the league in BP and still broke records and lost in the Super Bowl. But bow records in the passing game. He's fallen off this year couple of games. Like, I look at players not just Tom players all across the league and base base that evaluation off a production versus nonproduction if you have a couple bag games. I still think Drew's wanted to best. I'm not gonna look at two games out of sixteen or three games in say. Oh, man. I think it's his age. He just fell off. I'm looking like, hey teams made adjustments. He didn't play. Well, this is why. Play. Well, and didn't look good. But he still drew Brees. I mean, that's all I'm saying, look if if we're talking about if we're going back to what we've done the last couple years and making a finger bet on whether or not Tom Brady's gonna be good or bad. I'm going to go with these going to be good. If I have a digit on the line over it, however matters, though, if you put your heart on money up somebody say put your check one way or the other you have no choice where you put your check with Brady. But what's next? I'm just saying for the record. My eyeballs are working, and I can see that he doesn't like taking some hits. Nobody likes to. I know. But you know, what I'm saying likes taking hit, you know, he like a take earlier he's getting rid of it who likes taking hits. He's always led the league in the ball out quick. I'm just ASO. That's not Sony, Michelle. That's it. We're talking about now Sodhi Michelle game MVP. Yes. Or no, low almost say he's flaking to I'm going to say he's because with this all. Offense, and the defense that they're playing against they're going to lean on a lot of different components. I don't think it'll just be we're going to hand Sony ball forty five times. That's not it James is going to have fifteen to twenty touches. He's he's pretty he's pretty special. He's he's gotten the best of all tree from New England. Which is we gotta save you a little bit for the no we're going to run you. We're gonna pass it to you. Then when he went weeks without much usage. Look gotta keep you there for the most Jays it's been the constant. On anything with this offense all the way down alive from week one through week seventeen. He's been the constant James white look at it. Check it out. Okay. So not Sony, Michelle. But are you headed Mangalore of his share? Yeah. I'll go I go more three months. Go one. Okay. So we're gonna have it giving it to a position group. New England Patriots running back. So the game MVP could use that flamy for the offense of side. Let me let me throw this at you. It's going to be cold. It may snow. We're not positive about that either way. Here's the easy thing to say, well man Foxborough, and that's not good for the L A for the pretty boys to have to go up there and play a game we Jared Goff and the Rams struggle in Chicago, while he'll let me tell you what I what I figured out this information's available to anybody Google's. If you got that on your computers. You can look this up and confirm it. Melvin Gordon is a Wisconsin native. Justin Jackson is the Chicago land native both toiled in the big ten air. Go both are impervious to frigid conditions. Not it's not going to undo them. Like, I don't like the cold. I can't make it in this com. Calabria boy what. The charges have went into Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Right. There you go into Pittsburgh and winning a Baltimore all those places are warm pretty warm. I would say no, they're not. Well, they didn't they didn't. I mean, they want oddly on their won all three. But what are very Pittsburgh? Didn't shouldn't have can't really talking about. Pittsburgh pointing out that that's an asterisk. But all right. The weather right cold an environment hostile. Remember that? I you know, what what also the other question. I have for you is how much does it matter that Anthony Lynn knows why what ballot? Check wants to do defensively. I don't know because it's not Bella check. It's more Josh. And those in those game plans or game specific from week to week. So there's a lot of things that he may assault against the jets. You saw a lot of passing because that's something they needed to sharpen up. See they go into week seventeen starters played all the way through pretty much, and they know they. There are certain aspects to their game they needed to work on authencity. We saw a lot of passing. That's what they need to sharp. They knew they'd have to wait two week Lael is that what is that what they're doing? Or do they try to create because it would seem like the film? So you have to prepare. I was gonna say Maine. That's I was gonna say you may see how many teams I mean, first of all you have to be in the luxurious position of knowing that you that the game doesn't really matter that much to you based on where you're seeing. No you had to win because if you would lost you probably would have got the two seat. Right. But they can they can simultaneously like you say put stuff on film. Do you are you aware that most teams do that to some? Let's say some teams I wouldn't say all the teams they should because now you went out for it. Right. When I'm sitting in the defense of we've gone on all these different packages that we got to prepare for we mainly see a quarter of this. We only see have. But we gotta take time out of practice, which the luxury of having a by allows you to do that. But we gotta take. Time and put periods into practice to go over all this crap. Yeah. I completely get it. Well, that's also why I always say if I were a head coach if it were me, I think someone once said if if it were me when I would do in building a team, I would not have an identical quarterback. I get the reason why you would want a close facsimile, you're starting QB. So if he gets hurt you just throw the next guy in don't skip a beat guy. Just keep doing. I'd rather have the curve ball on the bench. And just be and say like, oh, he's hurt. Philadelphia. You just mentioned the Philadelphia scenario. No, that's athletic. Yeah. I guess that's kinda. Yeah. That's true. Right there statue. But can fro it you're not giving them a chance in Nola this weekend. Are you? I don't I'm picking the saints. But I'm not I'm not counting them off. I kinda am are you. Well, when you whip but team it's not like they beat them. They shame them. And Marie Jones. Drew says, oh, well, that's put a chip on the eagle shoulder. Now, they're going to go down. There was something to prove not when you get whipped. Like that the result of camping that different. We'll say the regular season doesn't really matter because this is a different team than they are. Now, I'm sure Jay do said that but you're not going to go into Mercedes Benz stadium. The Superdome and score sixteen points and think you're gonna come out of there with a win. Right. Not happening. Yeah. They're gonna well. Definitely they'll have to turn that in element things up. And and lastly, then so you've named the three headed monster of the patriots in the backfield as your MVP, but I want to throw one more at you hear Agra to VP's. I can tell you that now by looking at your list. Okay. Melvin Ingram was dynamite. Anyone who's followed? The. Chargers for any amount of time has known that he is kind of their defensive X-factor factor when he's been healthy over the last five years he is he is consistently dominant. And for whatever reason he slipped through the cracks. But as soon as Joey Bosa arrived, suddenly now, they had the two towers to go and get you, and that's really dangerous and in that cold and say what you want forty-one Brady or anybody else to your point doesn't wanna get hit under those conditions. If those guys are getting after them that's going to be bad. And then the other thing is to Casey Hayward is who's he gonna lock up Julian Edelman the figure it's not a good match up. Now is more of outside a quarter. Al guy is more of outside and then Derwin James traveled through corners. I don't know if they'll do that. They could you know, still got HOGAN still got gras who do you pick on? If you're if you're God Ray when you got James too. So you got a guy that can cover certain receivers and tied ends soon. He has to look at. Eighty seven a little bit Cogan. He can cover all those guys dimes. Why all the talk? Can I tell you something? I think for all the talk of you know, and it will build as gametime approaches old man river's versus Tom terrific and all that kind of stuff. I think this one comes down to rookie V rookie Derwin James v Sony. Michelle whoever wins out one they're going to have James up in the box right to try and take away twenty six plays everywhere. Right. That's what they did against. I mean, I know it's better. He's a better guy in the box. He can cover too. He could play up high. He could play single high or played down in a box. But the other safety of a die or Jenkins. They can't they're not as good in in the boxes. They're not as physical. Okay. Give me your other MVP. Then yet another one here. Oh, so if so if the chargers win, the MVP will be the the to pass rush. Oh because they're going to have to play great in the running game to stop that. And then they're going to have to be able to affect the. Pocket constantly, you know. So and understanding that. The teams that were successful this year. We're able to do that. I wonder if the chargers will say, you know, what gronk is look so ineffective at this point James Derwin, James your responsibility in this one takeaway, James white space. That's going right. That seems smarter than me. I take my chances with gronk looking like, he's look Philadelphia. Did that in the SuperBowl a bit they use Malcolm Dinkins to play against James white a lot? I mean, we've how many games have. We watched Tom Brady with that swing pass James wider whoever else, and they have a state slowly over the course of sixty minutes sweet feet on his Instagram. Sweet feats. That's another good little storyline. Wisconsin v. Wisconsin running backs they're Melvin Gordon and James white. Dear friends. Lastly, real quick Willie. What do you think is that what you're emotion when you hear? We're just talking about one game the one game I listened. I'd love to hear your pig. Oh, just say. We're just going to pick on one game. No, go ahead. You're picking the saints by how manning taking the saints? I don't have points. I'll say about Tim point. I got two points. I double digit win the Kansas City game. I think Kansas City pulls us out by touchdown. I think I think they I think they jump ahead as has been there formula this year. But I bet you Andrew luck tries to rally him hold on to win. It defense is different. What Houston back in the lineup. Well, like, we talked about offer airlines now default, you know, they come duos they tied for first and sex would default and Chris Jones Chris Jones is the guy we nobody talks about when you add Houston. That's going to mean. He's going to have some opportunity to get the lead. Yeah. I'll even though the colts. Out. Right, right. Jump out on the play defense to haul man if they if it all lines and play defense, they're going to get. So that stadium is going to be such a have such a negative if they fall behind it. And you're it's it's not like the Texans crowd. It's totally different. It's totally different foul behind though. These are faithful people who've waited fifty years for a return to the Super Bowl. They're going to be so nervous. If things go wrong, and then it'll permeate down to the sideline low not out behind, Dan. It'll be spooky loud. And it'll be all quiet in there. Okay. So let's let's round that out here, then who will your? So you got the chief survive in. So the chiefs hosting the patriots by your pick here doing super boy of championship yet. We just in this weekend division around what we just said we only pick one game then there's this weekend. All right. Well, so then pick the what remiss in the NFC game here in Los Angeles. Cowboys Rams choose the Rams have been a little disrespected I over the worst of two or three weeks and they've been hearing about everybody else. And how bad is defense is and how Jerry Gotha struggled in. You know, Wade Phillips has been listening. It's been taking shot as defenseman taking the shot Shaq McVeigh's been at the podium a little different last few weeks. You can see that it's bothering them in God's like that go to work, and he motivates and he's getting these guys ears. Hey, we gotta represent there at all. I. Completely agree with everything you said about that one. Are you surprised Josh mcdaniels isn't moving or you think he's just hanging in waiting for right beat situation, which could probably be worrying Foxborough. Whenever bills ready. It's at your prediction. I don't know. It has to be a great situation of Papa. And I mean, not just team wise and quarterback wise, but front office wise, he's going to have to have some. Ability to to to make moves upstairs because that's what he's used to seeing in that. That's what works you gotta have say, you know, you gotta have influence you gotta be able to maneuver you got you gotta be able to choose the groceries. I came up with that by myself insured made that one is hurt that for the first. I know it's a neat way to put it into perspective, social metaphor. And lastly, so what do you think about cliff Kingsbury, first of all, I guess who knows anything? But it is weird that he had a losing record in college. And it wasn't over one season. Offense was good though. I know, but it was a protracted time relatively speaking that he was there didn't turn them into a winner rise handsome. I guess now you can lose in can lose in college and be a hot commodity as head coach in the NFL. What we'll see we'll I will say this. It's it's like in my opinion with kings bearing a lot of these other coaches, and everybody's making his comparison to McVay first of all let's get off of that. There's not a lot of McVeigh's out there. Also understand the structure McVeigh came into was a good situation. Okay. You got less need up top with the guys. I worked in the building that understand. And that had put a team a pretty damn good team together that Sean McVay came into show McVeigh's has a beautiful football mine. Right. But he had helped he had assistance got a defensive coordinator right of veteran knowledgeable winning defensive coordinator that you don't have to cross the line and even worry about what's going on over there in between plays at the half. None of that. He's got it. And you talent at the running back and they did a good job of stairs of bringing another talent where they need it left tackle center. They bought in Cup. Got rid of Watkins who hadn't played wasn't really there. They bought robber woods. They did a good job of bringing another talent. When he got there. And he came up with a great system offensively to cater to a developing quarterback who still learning how to diagnose disguises protections going through everything you do walking up to the line and knowing where to go at the football. We seen them struggle. But he's learning. He's not there yet. But you gotta God. It's got the training wheels on that's helping you really good guy. So I think it's a perfect situation. Acts yourself this. If Kingsbury can go into the cardinal situation and turn that into a playoff team in how many years it's not happening next year. I promise you that. Well, I mean, I I also now think that people that we get distracted situate- situation. And what everybody else is why when Sean McVay came through on the next Sean McVay, everybody's going. No, I was gonna say is the colts didn't want Frank, right? They wanted your guy Josh mcdaniels, and they wind up, and and this was a team that almost nobody. But by the way, you were in with us. In the precinct. We said let's make a bold prediction a one team. That's going to get to the postseason and James Jones said the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. Isn't that a mate? That's pretty good. That's a good call by him. It's a it's a solid team. You said the titans the dig into the playoffs. They would have one game away. Yeah. I don't know about that. I can't always be right? All right. I'm just I'm just making a point about that now. But the emoji. Well, no, I mean, I don't think that it's off the table that anything down the winner. Go home. I mean, the colts will I hear you. It's not like the dominated his vision. Wish teams tied to put the Steelers the six seed, and they would have beaten the Texans last week are back to the still anywhere. This was a good show. This our conversation very strong nicely done fifty five travel safe. Enjoy your visit back to your second home. They're up in up in the New England third home. I thought Cleveland was most. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. Forget I forget myself as SE Cleveland in New England. You did. Oh, that's not what you did. You went. You went to you went to USC. Then you went to the patriots for a while. Then you went to the Brun over to recognize the patriots as my first inefficient home. You always say Cleveland. I I don't know that jersey right there. I see behind. That's all that's what I'm reacting to when I look at the jerseys back here. It's a Cleveland Brown. Yeah. Right. So that that's kinda my first home in here. I mean, that's what it makes me think it's the top of brain kind of. Thing. I see the orange fifty five. How do you think about Freddie, kitchens too? By the way, they like him good for them that they like him. But are the Browns to be trusted to you think? So from what I've heard the guys that I talked to upstairs, they think they got their man, we'll see really talked to John Dorsey. Say you talked to talk to guys upstairs. Yeah. But hey, did you tell John Dorsey if I were you is record look at his record who kinks kitchens winning? It's got a winning record his team. Greg Williams team wasn't it. It was his team. He's got the head coach his team think about it. Yeah. That tells you everything tells you, by the way, I think is first order business was like, yeah. I definitely want the head coaching gig one thing though, the other guys gotta go. I can't have them here. You can't by the way, they had to let him go actually because they couldn't say like he and we wanna keep both. You just you gotta flip titles. You're now the head coach. Now, you're the coordinator. Yeah. You couldn't really do that good times Willie mcginest like I say safe travels. Enjoy enjoy the game. I suspect it will be a chargers victory as I already mentioned there. We shall see either way. That's it for this week's edition of flake it or make it presented by head and shoulders. All right. Great stuff from fifty five and double that for number twenty two slash eighty Bucky Brooks great insights for the divisional round upcoming tell all your friends what you just heard. You don't even have to give Bucky or Willie credit for it. Just take full credit? Like, I've been thinking about this, and you can break it down seem super wise. That's why you listen to the Dave damage. Schick football program will be back for you. After the division around in front of the championship round the gate. You're right for those games until then NFL dot com slash DP. Go check out Daves of thunder. Go check out the good sports segment on the Adam Corolla show. 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647. Bucky Brooks' Mock Draft 1.0

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

13:38 min | 3 weeks ago

647. Bucky Brooks' Mock Draft 1.0

"And now move the sticks with daniel jeremiah and bucky brooks. What's up everybody. Welcome to move the sticks presented by castrol edge. Dj bookie back with you and buck. Always one of our favorite exercises. I think we've become more comfortable in the monitor. Maybe think early on when you had to do them. You get a little sensitive. All that's gone now. We just have fun with it year. Now it is all about having fun. And i think is an important. Reminder mod draft aren't necessarily how we see the players but more so how we take the anti that we get for some of these teams and transferred around and spit out how we may think these view. These teams may be players and just connects some of those dots. So what we're doing today is we're gonna go through. I mock draft of the year. Here we're going to go all the way through it from one all the way to thirty two Mix and some analysis and what our thoughts are on it. So let's get it started here. Bucky brooks mock draft one point over the twenty twenty one draft class. I pick goat jackson. Jaguars select trevor lawrence quarterback from clemson. I think this is a no brainer. Urban meyer only comes out of retirement to get the number. One overall pick and the quarterback that he thinks can provide a franchise. Trevor lawrence is dead guy. They welcome in duval and they started. Reveal right away with a franchise quarterback trevor lawrence working right. Now our buddy jordan palmer here to getting ready for the draft process and the really. I'm sure in short order will start trying to learn this. Urban meyer playbook in what that's gonna look like they're so to me that's a that's a no brainer. He's the first pick what happened now. The jets this is where the draft starts all. This is where the draft starts and this is where the controversy starts. I'm gonna go with the jets. Taking in feels out of ohio state and i think this is going to be really the major debate that we have the entire pre-draft process. Is it. just feels zack. Wilson in this scenario. I'm just saying joe. Douglas rubber saw. Maybe they want to build a little bit of a new school office with some of the stuff that they're bringing over from san francisco. Maybe they are for the athlete. Just feels oversight wilson but man is going to be a hot and heavy discussion the entire process. It's where the draft starts. And what does that mean. They they have to try. And look at sam darnold and compare him to these quarterbacks in the draft if they can't get something that they love for sam darnold turner in terms of draft. Pick compensation i could like. We talked about on the move is sticks podcast week i could see them sticking with sam darnold let him play for one more year while also having somebody like adjusted fields. Ready to go so give you another year to evaluate sam darnold. Maybe that stock goes up and you have a decision to make a lot of different ways to jets can go are how about number three bucks man. The miami dolphins every tough choice to make because they need to add a weapon to. It's i'm gonna go with. Jim march as wide receiver from lsu. And i know out of sight out of mind is easy to forget about him. When you turn on the tape man you see a dominant player. The size to me is why you leave for him over some of the other options at three i think being able to put your jason the field opposite devante parker to be by wide receivers. That can take it down the field. I think this helps to a tongue about lower. Become the flavor that we thought it would become last year when you select run after catch to what he gives you. If you're going to have to is your quarterback you need guys. That can really make magic happen. He's going to get the ball out quick a lot of lot of quick hitters. What can you do after the catch. I loved you marchesi all right. Keep it rolling. The atlanta falcons. Zack wilson quarterback from byu. Matt ryan is going to be there for twenty twenty one. But it's time to get the heir. Apparent in zack wilson. You get a guy with more firepower more athleticism to step into this office. When it's all ready to go with arthur smith and arthur smith's experience dealing with an athletic quarterback. I marcus mariota. A second and ryan tannehill. I think that enables him to get the best. Zack wilson. things that wilson could be a star down the road in atlanta. Give year bulk up a little bit. I think he finished the year at two eleven last year. Byu as he get to that to seventeen to eighteen type range just put a little bit more on his body durability mile and concern with this dude man he can. he can sling it all right. How about five cincinnati bengals. Let's go with police. You're ovens dako from oregon and this is one where i think. A team that traditionally sticks to the board. Whatever you've heard about top prospects throughout the offseason they tend to go with. Peninsula has been talked about for a year and a half has being a top tackle given the injury joe burrow. I think they lean towards the office tackle. And i think sewell. Is there pick huge upside absolutely huge upside and you think about the cincinnati bengals going back to the previous generation. Think about anthony munoz brought to the table. I don't think he's in that class buck. But you're hoping he'd develops to get somewhere close to that to protect joe burrow go on ford had. This is an interesting one here. How about the philadelphia. Eagles are into the philadelphia. Eagles are all and they want to revive resuscitate carson wentz career. So let's do about adding more weapons and contrary to popular belief is not a wide receiver. But how about pass catching cow pits from florida. The reason the surprise is because will what they already have tight ends. They have dallas it. He's ready to take over earth iffy lease but may a couch. Fits is a playmaker. And i think he is one of those guys that you just figured out you take him where these your hybrid wide receiver. It's at in. He just makes the game easier because all the things you need to do over the middle of feel he can do it. Think you see carson wentz improved. Because now he's still on inside the numbers instead of pushing out the numbers. Yeah it's gonna be fascinating to see what happens at the quarterback position we're thinking that carson wentz's back. I don't think anything's guaranteed That could indicate which way they go here to do. They look at this as a little bit of rebuilding process. Or do they think they can get. This turned around in a year. Kyle pits to me one of the three best players in the draft. So i love the talent no question. How about detroit. Detroit all in on jerry goal for the next two years. Because they're all then let's get them a playmaker they don't have any wide receivers the contract here by so let's go jalen water wide receiver from alabama. And i know everyone's like what about the about. They smith pop on a tape and remind yourself re familiarize yourself with jim waddell. Jim waller is an explosive playmaker. Guy that can take the top off. The defense can score from anywhere on the field. If you've rebuilding this office in rebuild them with the future mind you want to put some playmakers on the field. Because that's the way the game is a fastest player in college football. Who also is going to juice up your return game as well so i. I don't think that's Out of the realm of possibility. I remember last year at this time telling people are. We're having a conversation sent. Henry ruggs you end up. Consider having this conversation with these guys and up being the first white out off the board for all. Those dudes are carolina carolina. Panthers have hinted at wanting a new quarterback to get the program going on matt rule. Trae lance quarterback from north dakota state. The reason trae last works here is because you still have teddy bridgewater on contract. He still guaranteed enough money. Where you can keep him as the bridge quarterback and depend upon win trae. Lance is ready you then. Hand him the keys to the franchise. I think this is a win scenario for the carolina. Panthers they get the quarterback of the future while having a bridge quarterback help him along the way. And i think that's a no brainer. I liked right nine. Ever broncos denver broncos when we talk about it. You have to build your team to stop the candy chief. So you gotta get playmakers on the allen. Patrick sir tan from alabama vic. Fangio knows he has to have someone deck cover tyreek hill and these guys can't chiefs throughout their to me patrick. Certain is a little more refined than caleb farley alike but i could see either one of these guys being off the boy. Number nine yeah. It's a good debate between those two guys. Well you'd have to wait long. If you're caleb far you've got the next pick here in dallas cowboys. They can stop anybody in the passing game. So you need to find a way to get this done remember. Dang comes over as defensive coordinator. He wants to play with those long rangy corners. I think kayla farley is a perfect fit in this defense he's tough. He's athletic does a great job in his hands on the ball. I think he has a chance to be a guy that we talked about for a long time as shown on. Yeah i love him. I love his game. The physicality the ball awareness and ball skills down the field all right. Let's rip through eleven through fifteen here book. What he got. Eleven or fifteen number eleven new. Adjust a gregory russo. Edge rusher from miami. At twelve san francisco forty niners take. Jc horn quarterback from south carolina at thirteen. Los angeles chargers. Get a little hill for justin. Herbert racial slater offensive tackle from northwestern. F fourteen the minnesota vikings quitting pay edge rusher from michigan and f. Fifteen two new england pages take. Michael parsons linebacker from penn state. I wanna hit on those guys real quick. The giants will be interesting to see what they do in free agency because they've talked about getting some toys and some weapons offensively. Their track record has always been to go big. I so that's greg russo. Here the probably the best edge rusher in this year's draft class so that makes sense historically from dave gettleman standpoint but man they've talked about wanting to get some some skill on offense that will be definitely going back to what they've traditionally believe versus what they're saying now on the last one a jc horn to me when you look at the niners some age. They're in the secondary need to get younger a little more athletic in that group. I liked the jc hornbeck. Yeah jesse hahn gives him something. They're losing richard sherman. You don't know if for read is going to be able to come back you. Jc horn young dynamic player. I think he has the juice that you want on the perimeter. Or keep it rolling. Let's go where we go going. Sixteen through twenty where we got all right sixteen through twenty. Sixteen on cardinals. Devante smith from alabama. This is what you need. If you're those guys you have to kind of figure out a way to get it. Done as seventeen raiders jeremiah. Wazoo komo linebacker from notre dame eighteen ninety running back from alabama and nineteen the washington football team. They get their quarterback of the future and mag jones from alabama and ed twenty the bears allies avera tucker office guard tackle from the university of southern california. A couple of picks are interesting to me to me devante. Smith dropping a little bit. But we've talked about that with the frame that could cause him to slide a little bit man talk about having a receiving core there in arizona. Goodness gracious that'd be fun to watch and then the other one i think is fascinating. It's just mack. Jones go onto washington. I'm curious to see where he ultimately ends up. I have kind of more than that second round buck but man accurate efficient great decision maker. You love the work ethic. All the intangibles are off the charts. The question is is there. Enough is enough juice in his arm and his legs to warrant that. Yeah i think this is like the same thing when you talk about ron rivera. And what they wanna do and washington with their franchise. They won't guys that are cultural fits. Emag jones is work ethic intangibles. He's all of those things that they talk. They talk about and also just notice. I mean the washington fourteen they love alabama players turned down to alabama fleet when they've had a chance the mag jones because the player to the in the first round for the washington. That's a that's a good point there bucker. Let's go twenty one through twenty five indianapolis colts christian derek offensive tackle from virginia tech. Twenty two the tennessee. Titans aziz azure ari edge. Rusher from georgia at twenty. Three new york jets take travis. Ntn running back from clemson. Twenty four the pittsburgh steelers nick bolton linebacker from missouri and twenty five jacksonville jaguars christian bar more defensive tackle from alabama. Like what you did hear. Deira side of the colts make sense. You lose your left tackle to retirement with costanzo you go ahead and replace them right here with the twenty first pick. They do that with christian. Tarasov all right. How about twenty six to thirty twenty six thirty twenty six. The cleveland browns exerting collins linebacker from tulsa twenty seven. The baltimore ravens. Take one of the i think. He's underrated jalen phillips. Depressant lama from miami. Is someone that i am fascinated by him. Twenty eight the new orleans saints trevor. More safety from tcu at twenty nine. The green bay packers say jalen mayfield alignment from michigan and thirty the buffalo bills a carlos boogie bashing edge rusher from force. Yeah and i think jalen mayfield can play right. Tackle for the packers. Think he'd also slide inside and place them guard. They have a really good offensive line especially when they get yari back at him healthy but continued to add to that group. I'm all in on that one. I think he's a really really good football player our buck we've got two more picks to go here. Thirty one and thirty two tampa bay buccaneers. So that joseph aside edge rusher from university of texas at thirty two. The kansas city chiefs could darius tony wide receiver from florida. Yeah i love the kid. Area's tony pick there with the kansas city chiefs. All the different things he can do. Offensively put him in the slot. Put him out wide. You can even use him in the backfield. Use them in the return. Game the chiefs love creative playmakers. And that's what he brings to the table for an offense that has already rich. They get a little richer there with cadavers. Tony all right. That's going to do it for us today. It's been fun going through bucket. Mock draft one point. Oh hope you guys have enjoyed it as much as we have. Let us know. Get with us on on twitter at the six bucky brooks. Let us know what you like what you don't like leave a rating and review on apple. Podcast we appreciate those as well. That's gonna do it appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening to move. The sticks presented by castrol edge.

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Final Declarations, Scouting Speed & Skill

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

39:11 min | 2 years ago

Final Declarations, Scouting Speed & Skill

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks what's up everybody walking to move, the sticks DJ and Bucky coming to you live from all the way across the country, and in my I would say space hotel room with that wouldn't be honest here. Spacious intimate. Yes, hotel at the dawn says are the big pink lady here. Tampa Saint Pete I should say Saint Peter Saint Peterburg beach. The it's pretty low overcast it's a little rainy out there in southern California. So I think we won the weather so far. Yeah. We have is loophole. Chilly chilly. I'm dick practices at Tropicana field for for the east west shrine game. And then we'll be on our way to mobile for the senior bowl. We won't spend too much time talking about this game. This game is a look I hope you'll tune in and watch it a Saturday on NFL network. But this is more of your talking about day. Three guys. Buck, you know, fifth sixth seventh round picks for the most part when you have this many underclassmen declare it's a trickle down you've got one hundred twenty plus underclassmen. Then we've got the kids at the senior bowl, which is high profile ballgame. And then you've got the east west here in the NFL PA game. So this game used to be getting some third round picks. Maybe sprinkle in a second round pick every now and then in a bunch of four five six seven now, it's a little bit further on because of all these underclassmen. Yes. A little further on. But sometimes this game can still be the launching point for some of the guys that we've talked about in the throes. Josh Norman was the guy that played here. We saw Jimmy Garoppolo a last year. We saw guys going to the Pro Bowl for the Denver Broncos. Lindsey. Yes. This is a nice place. You're looking for the hidden gems the guys that maybe you overlooked on your first visit they come up here. They show up. They play will. They haven't op. Opportunity to certainly help themselves. So I am excited to see some of the lesson known names kinda make their way to ranks. We're going to have all you all your needs covered there on this game on the broadcast on Saturday at microcosm of the draft. Classes whole it's a good defensive line group when you look at the group down here. So we'll have a chance to talk about them on Saturday. And we'll go see some big time players down at the senior bowl next week. But let's get to these early declarations book, I want to get some NFL stuff in a minute. And I I also have a crossover conversation headed interesting plane flight sitting next to an executive from another sport and want to get into that. So we'll get to that. And just a little bit. But at the top here, gosh, I think one hundred twenty five was the number. I don't know if that's the official number but the number classmate is unreal. When they were used to be like fifty man, I just can't imagine trying to keep up with all down the classmate coming out, if you're a director or national scout and trying to can't do it the way that you're supposed to do it in and hold off awaiting. I think ten fall you have to do them into fall. You almost have to ask. To those around the program in the fall because there are so many underclassmen thing that has always been scary Iman, mind and dealing with underclassmen. You never got enough information. You always say, oh, we'll catch up. We'll get that not time. Not enough time to get the background info to really figure out the character, the football character, and they're more character just really figure out what the kid is. And so right now scouts are scrambling. They're hustling going all over the place making phone calls to liaison trying to figure out how they can come to put the finishing touches on these profiles so much to be determined. And so the combine for the underclassmen really becomes big because they really have to come to show themselves. Well, in terms of not only what they do on the field, the workouts. But how they come off because not a lot of runway when it comes to kinda evaluate he's before the draft. No question and the biggest name that announced very late in the process column. We've talked about color Mary plenty here on the podcast, but it was interesting Buckeye banks. To hear what you got. When I'm sitting the stands at east west praxis and sitting with general manager and talk with some other executives around the league. And I make a point. I don't know how you are on this. But when I when I want to get some information on quarterbacks, I I want to go talk the teams that have won. Because there's no reason for them to to lie to you, just the straight stimulus straight facts here. I said, you know, a franchise quarterback. They're not in that market Calamar. What do you think he goes have you seen him? And I go not in person not live. He's he's got explosive arm. I said the five nine thing is not not ideal question. But I think I can kind of he's a DJ not the height he might one hundred eighty five pounds. Russell Wilson you go back and look it up. But once they to fifteen maybe that thick billed. He's like, I just I don't see how he can hold up. So that was that's more for people every song about the height. But to me talking to folks today, it was all about the Bill. Don't know what what you got is. So funny because I had this conversation with a copay for scouts, and we were kinda holding co. That we were going onto Calum Murray thing, and they were talking about like, he's crazy. Like, why wouldn't he baseball? We're talking about the money and all those other things heavy. I've known him since I stand. What do you do like man, he is so small he's little I think he's about says my kid you look at them with two. To man, he's towering over he said. Then check Baker mayfield's Tomlin. Because maybe Baker tweeted out something about calamari. And he said looks like Baker looks like he towers over him. So then we're going through the conversation. You're like man, I don't know if I could ever do small quarterback like that. So then this is a team that has a franchise quarterback. I said, okay. Let's let's play this exercise I'll play against them. No. Let's play this exercise your team needs a quarterback. And let's just say, okay. Do I ask is this gone? Let's say drew lock is gone less even say Jones is. Okay. So here we are. And it's Cala marine will Greer who we take take our Murray? Right. So it's calamari who else. So I said worst-case we could say that. Let's take all the bigger stronger, Gazza, whatever let's take the so those three go who else is going before him. And I said you can't make it a reasonable case. Based on the player. Can we know you'll love? This. I had a conversation with someone this evening said we think about every talking about this Carla Marie? Everybody's a topic conversation. I said they calamari he said a watch a lot of players as fall to Kyle Murray's a second. Fastest dude. I watched this fall, I go really he goes only do facet and him. When he was throwing it to. It's so Hollywood. And so that's the unique thing, and I was telling him I was like because the guys like me you can't take a quarter a quarterback that is decimal. I say we can I said I used to think that we couldn't take a corner overpass Russia. Yeah. I used to think that we couldn't take maybe six foot quarterback at number one. I also thought that we couldn't take gored in the top ten. I said all those overrules are the door. I don't know what to think about the draft. And they're like, yeah. You write us. Look if we go by how a person plays. There's no doubt. He's one of the top players in college football. He's one of the top players in this class. It is really a matter of what are you comfortable with? And they said this to manage it. It really depends on what your comfort level is as a general manager, if you along tender gentleman's, you guess some security you don't mind swinging and missing if you miss him he said, but if you're one of those guys that gotta have got. Have you just got the job? He's like he's because if you miss it was like you should have known that he wasn't going to make. Whereas if in a stablishment guy does that okay swinging it, look we everything ebbs and flows. And we'll see where we are when we get closer to the draft. But I would say based off today at talking to folks it felt more like Kylo Murray was. Back in more like guys coming back into the bottom of the first we saw with the March ExCo third Schlesser. I don't think he's going to go on that top two and there's two or three. I don't think he's going to be in the in the mix for those guys is there's risk legitimate riskier. Hey, he'll play baseball at any point in time. Be it's not just the highest the bulk as we're talking about. So there there's some there's some risk now that being said it is a you're not choking up. You are you grip on the bottom of that barrel. And you are swinging for the fences you might hit it out of the park on him. You may hit it out the park. And so when we think about those teams, I think it'd be interesting to teams at the bottom of the first round teams that may not have an immediate need. Now a mission this team's name and almost say the New England Patriots. And the only reason I'll say that is because Tom Brady may have a year or two build Schick is established firmly establishes along team coach and Josh mcdaniels the office coordinator has kind of made this move before when he took Tim Tiba, which was kind of off to grit, and when you think about all the unique things and how the patriots really play because you obviously just saw them to Sunday. Talk about screens quicks. He can do all that stuff. Like in that off their one of the teams that met with Lincoln Riley, if I'm not mistaken, the patriots are Josh Daniels spent some time with his so is this something to consider one does seem. Everything I was told Tuesday love them. They love them at school. I mean it he's he's really good football player. I think is going to challenge. Whether we are still a Scana community values production and performance or do we value the potential end the traits? He believe if we talked about this five years ago, but can't lay we went had the discuss went ahead is conversation. He would have been a good little player. We would have talked about him in lier in the what we would have done is. They wanna be like this is a really good football player. We're gonna put them. Oh, six. Yeah. That's it. That was that. That was a discussion move on move on. It is it is really fascinating the other smother underclassmen, Alabama's seven dudes came out. And I have my top fifty that's coming out. And it's coming out next week. I've got it pretty much an order. I'm just finishing up the summaries right now, but Josh Abrahams gonna he might have a nose bleed so high on my list. Oh, man, there people that really really like him you're talking and they're talking. I'm talking about people that went in there early. Like, you know, like haven't done is you go into September. You don't get a chance to go back in and see him. So you like, yeah. I gave him like a second round. Great just based off what I saw early in the year of two or three games. But now you look at you like all right, this this is kind of tricky doing this on audio by buck. He's got great reactions. So I just pulled out my phone right now. Because when I was doing somebody else this play this play from Josh Jacobs. I'm sure he's not gonna carry the ball. He's not going to catch the ball. He's not going to touch the ball. I'm gonna let the play run Bucky. You can kind of do a little bit play by play. And you sell me what you see from Josh eggs there in the shotgun. And he's he's courts. Did her stakes? It the lead block. Wow. Look so on this is just a just a sweep a jet sweep Gacoms emotion. Two handed to the receiver coming around the corner Jacobs his lead blocking and he literally uproots defend the contact where does it start? Where the context starts. Look the defender ends up looking at. Look at bell four yards from selling the Gatland on the paint. He lands on the paint. And so anyone who was kinda bend around like if you've been into waiver when we talk about power cleans explosiveness twitch that video that little clip there just displays the explosiveness toughness and the physicality, and so when you look at the way that he performed in the in in the championship game when we saw him down the stretch, everyone talks about the other running back Damien it in the big the big sophomore kid from the bay area. Right. And then Jacobs comes steals thunder and Anna draft where we wonder if there's really going to be a legitimate number one running back. This guy goes to the top of the charts because his explosive potential makes him where he's kind of like having school back. I had this talk with a with an personnel executive. He goes I told him what I had on him. And he's like. Like what what is there? Not to like, I said, no, you know, what the negative is. Here's a negative. Oh, you didn't have luck. Harry's. Perfect Alba chimera. We learned that lesson. That's not a negative. That's positive that is true. On those tires and thing that was mystifying to both of us about Alvin Kamara to me, we both had first round grays on just what what are we missing when he's falling on drafter. His name hasn't been call. Like what what what did we miss? I've seen everything he can catch the ball out. He can do all the things that he was doing in New Orleans. He showed its innoc-. And so it was a big mystery. But I think the search for the next Alvin Kamara the next Christian McCaffrey the guy can do it. He is going to go, and he's going to he's going to be drafted a lot harder than most people expect no question of much other juniors. Here we have a chance to dig into those. As we go forward. We're going to have plenty of time to talk about all these underclassmen as we get towards the draft. I did this one comparison Devon white. I got a lot of roquan Smith. I like I like Devon white a lot and you'll find out on my list. I have a top fifteen players. But I thought roquan a little little something roquan had a little more snap to the more juicy up. Yeah. Yeah. So I heard that great player, really good. Player, but I have roquan over hurt hurt hurt a few different things him and the other guy that people said like people going to kind of pay him as dear a third round guy. Then I'm gonna get which means he's going to go in the second. If not the first who's at cavalry Lee's brother, hold up book. So he's in my top fifty. And he he's going to run four five five hold up. Let me give you let's see here. Let's just won't do a little reading session here. Let me I've been writing these. I've been right. My top fifty. So this gives me a chance to a book on tape because I've got I've got I believe I've already written him. Ridley let's find let's find Mr. Ridley here, by the way. Have you watched? The I put out a little video when you do you see the other tight in from Iowa? Oh, I know about it is possible to I will could have to go in the first round. Because Eckstein is he's he's he's assassin. He is a why me he is a inline in line side in. He is again that you wanna see attest to the tackle. He. All the dirty work. He also can kiss wall. Heath miller. He reminds me heath. So and and and it's true. Like, he's the old school tight end that everyone wanted from Mike Mark revolve role when I play we have marked Moore he is the big imposing presence at tied in debt can block in line. But also kissed ball down the field perfect tied in. All right. Let's Riley Ridley reading well. That's a lot of really good size very posh route runner lax and explosive Bursa released, but he understands how to set up defenders. He's very efficient at the top is route despite lacking top end, juicy create separation clean footwork in and out of the break point, very strong hands attacks ball highest point after the catch. He's tough, but last premier Burster looseness lack of production is a concern. But there are a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. Overall, Ridley is ready to contribute right away. Lacks ideal twits, but he consistently gets open has strong, reliable hands. And when I'm watching him, and when I'm reading them, and when I'm and I'm writing, and I'm sitting here going like I said a lot of these same things about a guy that's catching a billion balls for. Thomas now, it's funny that you brought that up kind of in the back. The scouts disguised is a carbon copy of Michael Thomas. He's physical. He creates seperation. Crazy. You make he can make plays in there. You have it. And you know, s cows we're always looking for cops. We're always trying to learn from mistakes man, if we miss all the first go around gonna try and get the second time we want to get it in the second time. And I think he's going to benefit from that. And so in a draft where the receivers are solid. But I don't know how many guys really really stand out. He may be a guy that you pay a I don't wanna go in the hawk out, and maybe I'll get them. But I think the more people look at him the more they go into appreciate what he is. And the more that we see Michael Thomas dominate from that inside positioned slot receiver. There's a real there's a there's a role for those guys. And so you'll see people khanate, I'll give you one more. Then we'll move on here. We were just talking about Devon white yet. So here's Devon white white thick sturdy frame possess. Prototype explosiveness playmaking skills against pass. And this one of the things I we always follow formulas. When writing reports we've done it forever. So people have a different way of doing it. So the one change I made a couple years ago the way I was kind of taught to do it. And I kinda got a groove. Was you wanna see give him a vision of the body type? What did you look like physically? Then I always did it from gonna break down from the run game in the past game. But as NFL game has changed if remind reports all of them are gonna start with how they do in the past game. And then I don't care. We're talking about Lyme linebackers lime whatever we're talking. Let's do what did they do? And then we'll get to what they do in the run game. So that's the formula us anyways, white six thirty frame possessed prototype, explosiveness playmaking skills against the pass as a speed. And Jill you cover tight ends down the field and closes space in hurry. When he's in sewn coverage, you can watch him against am just MIR's that tight and all over the place, timing and Bursa Blitzer wins. Majority of one on ones versus running back and pass protection against the run has sideline to sideline range, but he will get stuck on blocks. Once in gauged, good, not great instincts key. Read. But even when he's a half count lady makes up for with this place. Speed outstanding chest up tackler overall white has what teams are looking for the position the ability to run covering blitz. We talk about all time. I mean, that's the ability like we're going to see an here's why he is going to benefit you can talk about roquan Smith. But what we saw last year the impact of the second level Lyon late in Vandereycken Schiff Laden vendors dairies, Leonard even Tremain Edmonds all those guys were able to have immediate impacts coming in stepping in making big plays. And so we're seeing that there's a prototype with a blueprint for how those guys gonna have success satellites island chasers guys that can find a way to get to the quarterback on blitzes and guys who also can get their hands on the ball and covered they make plays the impact your defense when you're constantly on the go. There's not much time to think about upgrading your style or apartment. That's why you love getting a new box of awesome from be spoke post every month experience quality and unique products at box of off. Awesome dot com to get started. 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I want to say this name, but I know his name I don't wanna say it here. But he's a general manager in the National Hockey League. You know, me I don't anything about hockey. But he's he's obviously came up on the scouting side been around the game for a long time. And had it was fat. We just went back and forth asking him questions asking me questions. And I asked him I said has how is it changed with hockey because I know the rules there have changed as the rules have changed in the NFL which make it more offense a friendly has that affected you in the scout. Exciting said, yeah. So, you know, we used to always be looking for guys six three six four we used to have you know, if he was under a certain size. We wouldn't even look at him. He said that's out the window. He said really what it comes down to is. We just trying to find things speed in skill. And I thought man that is so true. And that is what the NFL games turned into speed and skill absolutely. Is this and you know, like? Teams will always look to the teams into four and a teams they may go to Super Bowl, and they will kinda make some determinations based off of those things. I think if we look at the teams that in the final four, and we'll we'll kind of move New England out of that. Because the outlier when you look at the Kansas City. Chiefs speed skill is certainly no question when you look at the LA Rams, absolutely and skill surly. Applies tie. Girly. Brandin cooks was those guys are explosive playmakers. The New Orleans Saints are a little different. This yield chimera provides a speed Ted Ginn has some speed, right? This skill. Port of Michael Thomas is a skilled question has a way to get you'd think about breezing way to heat works. Mark Ingram is a skilled running back. And so your nail really really focusing on those things, and I think it also applies to the way you look at their defense. Marshon Lattimore Cam, Jordan. The Gaz that are making plays are Gazzetta explosive. And they have a pants at skill. Something that jumps off the tape. Beit? Impress coverage being an off being a pass rusher. Those things apply. And now teams are finding ways light bay. We will take your skill set. And we put it on ourselves to figure out a way to maximize. So one of the thing that he was saying was said look real k on the hockey side with sacrificing some size. But you've gotta have you got special traits got some special traits. I said it's the same thing. We do the same thing football. If you're going to be undersized that means you gotta have exceptional speed or playing skills or something that makes you unique. You can't be small and slow. That's that's still the same. It's always been by was talking to another general manager today. And and I've I'm anxious to see when you when you get around and talk all these guys, I think we'll find same thing because I was trying to get to him. And I said, what's what's going to change this year? After what we saw this your. How's it going to personnel? How's it going to take the draft of free and seems like anything about that a little bit? And then we kept talk. Talking. And and he said he goes, you know, we we played we played some games this year where we played pretty good scored thirty points lost any said, we've got to find more playmakers. Gotta find more playmakers and other thing and I've had two or three different people. When you're talking about goals in the off season what you're trying to do to shape you roster. We have got to get faster on defense. It's the same. That's the that is the former it's what we talk about creating those twelve players and trying to hit those things playmakers. Playmakers playmakers. Thirty ain't good enough anymore. You got to try and get a team that can produce forty points. That's what your informant. It sounds ridiculous. But that's really what what teams are thinking three to four teams in a war. They're all there all four the four high scoring teams in the scores Eve's last weekend. Three of those teams have thirty or more points. You have to be able to score points and the best way to generate explosive plays. You have to have explosive athlete dynamic players with the ball hands and to create turnovers. Those guys need. To be they need to not only be able to catch the ball. But run fast knocked the ball out those kinds of things. And so the league continues to vote the league is changing as delete kind of becomes more wide open you need more than MC athletes. I think the guy that you had a chance to see each week Derwin James. Yes net we reflect on it despite the production should know. He should should've been a top ten Utah five to just on the explosive trace it's gonna benefit Gary this year, by the way, absolute he's big he's fast. He's physical. And you're like man, how did we miss on? It didn't have a great year yet. But you see it him. And if two guys wired, right, you're right. And watching the other big part and for sorry. Gary is absolutely going to head to conversation. Head people talking about just hoop at times dupe it. He's run like low four five six go sub four five and at that size. He's going to be done Emmett. We're talking about two hundred eighty pounds two hundred and eighty pounds a head people. Tell me let me kind of reminds me at just took was outside guy that could play inside packages and rush to pass from inside. And so as you look about decree tivi and people look at Aaron Donald and how he's able to dominate the game from inside the more. You can do and it brings me to another Gak Christian Wilkins who is candidate 'nigma from draft perspective in terms of what you do because he is a, wow, whoa. Player meeting. You see the wild place at into place later. You're like, whoa, back four bucks. You you want it. Let's get it. Here we go Christian Wilkins reading theater right here. A nice comfortable chair. You can't see about right now. Lounging my hotel room right now. Wilkins has solid size for the position. He's been a disruptive presence along the Clemson line throughout his career against the past quick feet and hands wins early in the down at his best when slanting and working through the blockers isn't a powerful bowl rusher. Don't yawn against the Rani's much better on the backside relies on quickness to slip does a good job of cut blocks on the front side. He'll casually get too high turn over all Wilkens says upside is a pass rusher in penetrated. But you'll have to live with some of the deficiencies at the point of attack. I mean, this what he is like you have to be able to work through live with some of that it's going to be ugly. Snaps you're gonna get dumped on case you you'll get down t's leave you wanting more. But you just see guys are flexible athletic, all I was talking to GM today. Just like we've got find interior pass rushers. She's like when we're playing against them. You can't get away from him. When I don't care. How great you are coming off the edge throw bodies at them. I can't do anything when they're inside. You don't want one. I mean, you saw at when Donald when charges played against Baltimore all those dudes inside. Waiver to put Melvin Ingram on ONA gore was helpless. I mean, it it it changes the game. So if you have someone that can attack the quarterback from a one technique or three ticks, Simmons sky high too. It is a game changer skipper Simmons from Mississippi State has a character stuff from high school teams sort through. But everything at the school at Mississippi State seems to have have been very positive there. So he's a name keep an eye on as well. All right, buck. We we have some NFL thoughts here. We've touched on it a little bit just with these games. I know you've got chance with we with Rhett. Did you do this read Nick foles? Nick, foles know. Out of the playoffs. New nickname still got some work for them. Just real quick. You know haven't been at that patriots chargers game. It was a masterful game plan by the patriots. Chargers. Just just kind of played that that soft coverage. And Tom Brady's eats eat malivert. Here's the thing. Most teams aren't patient enough and officiant enough an accurate enough to maintain those twelve fifteen play drives that guy is. And we've talked about it before and said it that's different role for him. So to me, I'd rather I'd rather. Hey, this go down. Let's go down swinging. Let's press up and if Tom Brady beach over the top, but those guys it happens. But I don't know. I liked likes charge challenge. A little bit more up front. You know, it is funny. Because like if you want to which version of the patients was going to show up. I mean, obviously you heard post game Tom Brady Saint we know everyone thinks we saw will shit down chip they chip. And you know, this is not the most talented version of the patriot. We say, but I'm been around long enough to remember in two thousand thousand one this was a team to David ped-. David givens enjoy. Brown. They didn't really have notable names on the outside. But they were teamed at collectively played are a really good version of complimentary football. They ran the ball our football and death by a million paper paper cuts screens and all that other stuff. And then they did enough on defense. And what I saw was man this team is kinda going full circle. And a heard someone talk about this and says like the patriots played a different level than everybody. In terms of they experiment doing the regular season to figure out how to be the best version of themselves in the playoffs. And they kinda get to the form of the last two weeks of the regular season. And then doing the playoffs. Like, this is how we have to play with the team that we've per presently constructed. We can't play the way we played in two thousand seven we can't photo ball all over the yard Nellis hone in do two things that we can do to win games. So they are difficult out in this is a game where Kansas City's the more talented team. But can't they not what we call. It the champion out. Can they knock the patriots out because I think is a tough task. For team that has been there and his very comfortable living in the championship game space. Here's one piece of advice for the Kansas City Chiefs, go back and look at every big play that you gave up this year because practice against it because they will adopt. It they will implement it. And they will call it. I'm sitting up there in the booth with Matt with with money and the patriots screaming. Oh, yeah. That was when the Pittsburgh game. It's got that. When they run to the play the Kansas City ran that when it gets. I mean, it's just like a collection. They go collect plays that that work. And I'm sitting here thinking just having been there for the chargers chiefs game. I'm like, oh, yeah. They're gonna see a lot of stack. They're gonna see a lot of stack, and they're gonna make them communicate and try and sort all that stuff out because they because they absolutely buses. So they're going to give things to make them communicate and figure out if Dave saw shifted. Can you handle the communication part of because we saw them in the charge game? They gave up a touchdown to point version simply on communication issue. So they're going to get its that is coming, and I've said this in people jumping my time line because I said look to one thing we know about the patriots. They're going to do their best to take away. Tarik? He'll Travis Kelsey they'll make the other guys beat them. All right. I'm sure they tried to first game. They did. But they'll make an even more concerted effort to make sure like in that game. I'll play a lot of cover one charge. Once they got up to man-to-man all all day. And they were like, we'll let you run it. Because we don't think as we talk about the pace indiscipline, you're not patient enough to live. Then I think that's how going for those that don't know. From quarterback's perspective. Trying to throw against two men is the worst. They just play trail technique and undercut everything because they've got they've got to over the top. It is hard to play against that. That's when that forty Niners defense was rolling with Justin Smith and all Smith and that team that went to the Super Bowl they lived in two man because they stop the run without having to drop a safety down. So they just played that as hard to play against that defense. Run the ball very hard to play against it. I pointing people back to the Pittsburgh game two pages played a few weeks ago. And even though they loss did a great job of containing Antonio Brown. Also slowdowns you Schuster. Jalen Samuels had a big game. And everyone was excited har- lives because news, I o you give. Yeah. Because the explosive plays come through the air through the ground. They kept the score down because they made them run it. They don't won't Kansas City to get the explosive plays because the explosive plays juice up the crowd. They're going to make Damian Williams be fact in this game. Talking to somebody not here was on the phone about a week or two ago and it was telling me about their defensive coordinator philosophy. And I thought it was fascinating. He said, look if if if you're getting people's you say like stay on four yards on first down stay on schedule. And he said look defensive coordinator, you don't carry until you start until you rip off some twelve and fourteen runs. He said if you run four yards on first down he said, he's not gonna just we're gonna keep our safety high until you prove you can get an explosive then we'll drop a safety down bomb a play. Hi, I'm I'm gonna give you can have your four yards. Whatever you want. The thought is eventually gonna get off schedule. Big place a blown assignment you have a penalty. You have something that kind of change. Oh, we got you. Yeah. Oh man, four yards. Like, I'm not drawing not gonna just I'm not going to get out of what I'm doing until you start running some explosive. I've heard people talk about her from defense coordinator say like we're going to stop the big passes. We're going to make you run the football. And if you can prove that you can run it, then we're dropping. It was just exactly what you're saying is to shift in in the way of thinking because everyone will always talk about even when you saw these old school coordinators, stop stop the run. Yeah. But it's a different version the way they've you. It is stopping explosive fronts. We're gonna stop explosive runs. Three four yards on first down. That's. Because most playcallers they won't the big stuff. They want to chunk place. Do you have enough patience to just nickel damn down to feel with the renegade? Most people don't other game there with the the eagles tip my cap the eagles. I thought that headed shaved. I mean, looking at this was the one that could get out of hand. In fact, all the other games seemed like they got him. This is the close one. In fact, they had a chance to win the game late off now for an unfortunate trap when you find out alshon Jeffery what he's playing through with with ribs and everything else. I mean that that is a the word grit is overused. Read the book, we've talked about it. But that football team. I think you got tip your cap that's greedy bunch and the saints in their fence green bunches well to be able to play your best and find a way to get a win. Yeah. I think that's the thing. I think. We've seen. We're seeing the four best teams in full in terms. I think we can confidently say these are the four best teams and football. They're here. For a reason you notice their flaws are not glaring either side of the wall. So we can talk about Kansas City their defense their defense tighten up, and they have what we talked about that you have to play in skill playmakers up front. We've seen just in Houston show up and make plays. You're seeing d Ford may place and they're getting timely contributions from the guys in the back end. And so it continued to be interesting to see how this goes back to the saints. And the Rams I think the part is gamed at his fascinating to me is the Rams have stumbled into what I think is the biggest factor in C, J Anderson CJ Wison, I have thoughts on that. Going AJ Anderson has given the Rams a unique thing they now have a big one two punch most time when you have one two punches you have a big back in a little back. A little back is assigned a role to catch the ball out the back. Field. Big back does the dirty work. But as C J Anderson and tiger -ly, they're very similar like they don't have to change our office just running downhill, and because the way they cooperate the backs into the passing. I talked to a renaissance coast today said look both running backs complain to pass because they're just check down gas. Todd Gurley is used for screens. But really they play action to run back ends up over the ball. He's like it's not like they're asking those running backs to be levian Bill type move all over he said, and you're getting two guys that are really really comfortable in design scheme. And he told me that what? People miss C, J Anderson last you get a thousand yards on a desert team, maybe twenty pounds, but he's hefty here. But he gained a thousand yards behind a Denver office that wasn't and so the toughness and stuff you're seeing is CJ Anderson run behind a good office of line is different. And so I think Sean McVeigh actually stumbled into a formula. They gave the Rams a better opportunity to win the Super Bowl than they were the way they were playing the middle to the end of the season. I think they found a recipe that they can take on the road win. And look I picked we both picked the Cowboys to win that game. But here's the thing. I thought okay with the perimeter run game that they like Todd Gurley there at that matches up with the linebackers for the Cowboys Cowboys and be able to scrape and get over there. Well, I didn't realize James the hammer was gonna come out and go right between the tackles and go, right, Adam. And they had no answer for that. No Asfour now. And I can't go back and think about the last time that we've seen a team have two Bax did interchange in play like that. Like, you just don't see it. I have to go back to when I was run into raiders to raise at Tyrone Wheatley, Zack Crockett, and and Charlie Gardiner. But you just don't see. I mean, we saw the falcons, you know. But again, they're kind of all this. But like new to bankers like, geez. Like it. It's a lot to have to deal with down after down those big bags. No, no doubt. Anyways. Well, it'll be fun to watch this this weekend here. I think we've got to great matchups. I think they're both kind of pick 'em games. It'll be fun. It'll be fun to to watch both rematch. Is right. So these guys know each other extremely well. I think coaching definitely matters when you get in this coaching differently matters. What will the Rams do because Thomas had a huge game over two hundred yards receiving really worked on Marcus Peters. But now big brothers back. Keep to leave comes back. Maybe he takes on that match up. We'll see chess batch will be fascinating to second. Go round. Got some good news for folks at home too. You can stream every f l playoff game live on your mobile or tablet through the NFL or Yahoo sports app. So you won't a a big game here this weekend. Buck anything else you want to get to before we get out here. Knock can't wait for dinner, by the way, you eat dinner little forty five minutes. Just take a nap took read a got some more reports. I got it right up. I don't know. They got a great group sandwich. Downstairs solid out of the. For sale. You don't think? So tonight. I don't know a little I don't want to have to cream parlor, and like some bagels or something any gonna do Chick-fil-A twice already down. Here we go all the ready. Are we going to go to the waffle house? That's we'll get to those. That's what we are. We thinking there's a Friday maybe somewhere, I can't peak too. So breakfast for dinner, though. Right. Not breakfast yet. That's the only way to do it. I'll man you took me you it'd been it had been a decade before I had been and then last year. Buck me there. I've been thinking about it ever since I can't wait to go back to Cracker Barrel to oh, they have credit the cracker. Oh my gosh. They're all over the place. You get the do you play the game. You figure out how to get down to the one t I loved it. I don't think I've ever done it. You've never played to try. I've played the game. I've never been able to get down to just the one t headed down to a size within. I forget to formula, you know, scouts his old school, but remember scouts used to go through there and pick up the books on tape because you could you could take the books on tape at Cracker Barrel driver and drop it off at another one old school scouting. Young guys about that. Nothing. Nothing about it. All right. That's going to force. Thanks for listening to move the sticks. Thanks for downloading subscribing. Check out all of our videos, NFL dot com slash empty s video YouTube dot com slash NFL. There's a real home Dinger of a mock draft. It's coming your way. Hundred drafts coming look out for that. Appreciate you guys. Listen, and we'll get you next time right here on Lewis sticks. Loading move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks for more. 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Divisional Round Takeaways

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

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Divisional Round Takeaways

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to move vis stakes. DJ is out once again with the chargers who are now out of the playoffs division weekend is a wrap. This is well Nick foles kind of issue is out as well. So can I still call myself, Nick foles? Yeah. You can still book big foles was a drop away from being right back into Ming. Right. You're right, right. Louis. My man Bucky Brooks, and we are getting to our takeaways here from divisional weekend, which is now a rap and how many times have you filled out a March madness. Chuck all the way is unbelievable. Like is is really put this is what we wanted. I felt like in in the AFC you wanted to see the two best teams go you want to see the patriots and the want to see the chiefs going to have to go through the right of facets. And then in the NFC after Saturday night's game wants to Rams were in. I was like man, you know, like Rams and the saints rematch debt or Rams in eagles because the eagles and knock them off light. You had good games either way. And I think what is compelling. I thought someone tweeted out that these are the four top scoring offenses talk football and so going against the norm. In terms of where we've always talked about defense winning championships. Even though defense has shown up in the tournament the four most explosive offenses have made their way to championship round. And so now the best defense is that complement those offenses. We'll see who makes it to the super have you like defense a sucker. This is. Shift game offense rules and all right? We're going to get the takeaways here. Guys. I'm going to kick it off your book from the Rams Cowboys game two words ram governor center. I luck interstate putz into the. Thanks. C J power through the left side. It was seven sixteen ago. Put it on fifteen raise with the lease. Okay. So look this is a little bit of a a hat tip to the old. What is it the eighties Ramat Amazon radio? Yeah. Yes. So not only that. But we're talking about two Rams to one hundred rushing games Todd Gurley in C, J Anderson. First time that's happened in Rams franchise history. Together, they almost clips with air. Eric dickerson. Did the last time? These two teams met in the playoffs back in eighty five. Anyway, is was as impressive a rushing performance. As we've seen this postseason. A C J Anderson one of the two biggest in-season pickups this season, by the way, the other one Damian Williams with the chiefs is still in the mix as well. But I just thought the way that Sean McVay handed his game to his offensive line into his two were courses in the backfield. Thought was impressive show confidence in what they wanted to do. And they wore the Cowboys down, and then they knocked them out with aggressive timely calls by showing they including that down. Right. I really thought he was going to kick it especially after they tried to draw offsides. No. They just they go at it. And make it a to score ballgame with two touchdown lead. That was huge. And then on the flip side indomitable sue was huge and prevented the Cowboys from ramming Zeki Elliott down the Cowboys down the ramp sorts. I think this was you know, there was a lot of pressure on Sean McVay in this game after the Rams loss last year in the opening round. And I think the one thing that they were able to do is they stay true to their identity as much as the conversation has been the last couple of weeks about Shamanee and finding a Sean McVeigh clone elevating the play of the quarterback when you really look at the Rams the Rams are smashed off team. The Rams run the ball that they're all play action. But really they beat you up and. We can say that you know, he is this office of group guru and wizard. And he really is. Because what he has done is he has taken the Mike Shanahan cow Shanahan system and added his own little flavor to it. But at the end of the day, they still do the same things they go run to outside zone. And then they go throw play action. And when you look at two one hundred yard rushers CJ amps and Todd Gurley. They ran the ball early with the fecklessness. But then you go and you look deeper into stats Jerry Goff through fifty one percent of his passes play action. So when you think about the combination of the Yang of the Yang of oh, we run it. Then we we fake it. Then we throw it over your head. And they work over the middle of the field. The Rams are so problematic because they do a great job of making everything look alike, and they just put linebackers in a bind because the hitting you with the fat back the hit you would tug throwing it right behind you ear to all their wide receivers. It is a. A lot to prepare for. And I can't wait to see this office of show that we may get next week with the sanction and the Rams, but the Rams physicality toughest near building to run. The ball is thing that stood out to me. And their defense. Looked like the defense that we thought was finally show. Oh for sure. Yeah. I mean to do all that in to run it with that kind of success out eleven personnel. The whole time is is that much more impressive. So I guess on the flip side then for the Cowboys. It was the old standbys standing down in letting the Cowboys down look Zeke rain at twenty times for less than fifty yards. That's not a recipe for Cowboys win. We have given so much love to this. Cowboys defense to their young linebackers in particular late Vander, esh Jalen Smith. And then you throw Sean Lee back into the mix and like they had all three of them at their disposal. I don't know maybe that was to their detriment, but the lasting image. I'll have from those guys is Chris Rashard Choon. Them out on the bench. That's that's how I'll remember this. Linebacking corps that had been so prolific throughout this season. I mean, they were running and chasing instead of attacking in tackling. The one thing about it. And I can say this from having played against the oh Mike Shanahan system where they were running his own. It is really frustrating when they are locking you up and you can't get off. And when it happens early in the game because early in the game C, J Anderson, and so they went over hundred real early in those games. And when you're unable to stop the run there is nothing more than moralizing than having someone kinda cram it down your throat and for the Dallas Cowboys, they couldn't get off blocks. They couldn't have negative plays. And so because they couldn't dictate the terms on early downs Jerry golf man was comfortable when they were doing the play action passes. So yeah, they got beat at their own game. Because we thought based on their success against the Seattle Seahawks that they would be able to stop the run different kind of run right different kind of. Aims zone scheme that was a little different. And then all of the bills will cels fake gyp sweep the constant motion and shifting. They give you a lot to think about and they had a lot of success. Yeah. And the Cowboys D line had a ton of penetration against the Seahawks the wildcard game. It's just it's tough to kind of maneuver all that with all the things you mentioned that misdirection and then just zone scheme as it is so Cowboys they're not a winning team when they can't stop the run run the full. Yeah, they can dictate terms. They couldn't make this kind of game too. They want it. And actually it was funny because they wanted to take the game to the Rams and the fast into ram stick to them. They wanted to hit him in the mouth and run it said deck up and when you looked at deck early. I was like. I was like office is going to throwing passes or more Cooper made an impact on the game very early. But they can never get the run game on track in Dallas is a team that they want to keep the ball away from the offense. They couldn't do it. And as a result, they are nam packing and the Rams are going on. Indeed, they are. And we are moving on. Let's get to our next takeaway. But which got the patriots are chameleons turn to Michelle runs up the middle pushing. While just kidding. Hush through two quarters extra the extra surge. You know when you think about the New England Patriots. And I knew better we we we knew that this team was eventually going to show up in the tournament. But looking at this this team is kinda come full circle on the time Brady in the early two thousands. This was a team to really grinded the ball out. They had Antoine Smith and Corey Dillon, and they played a certain way the defense to carry them. And they found a way to win three out of four Super Bowls. Then in the middle of the two thousand Tom Brady kinda grows into being a playmaker. They thought all over the yard, and they win games in a spectacular fashion. And then then when we started looking at them they're back to the way, they started. Yep. They're a little more work a little more blue collar in terms of the way, they attacked the charges twenty one and twenty two personnel to backs one tied into backs two tight ends of very very physical. Then they kind of went through. And I've always felt this about the patriots. They kind of have a menu in a checklist they go through a list exploring probe. With the run game. Okay. Let's go empty and see if we can get you to quit game. Oh, this spread it out and throw some passes. And then when it's all going, and they just make it so hard and challenging for you to slow them now. Yeah. I mean, that's it again, I thought this would be a better game. I thought that I didn't think it's going their first four possessions. Didn't think it score touchdown on the first four possession. I think they would have more first downs than the chargers had total plays at the end of the first half twenty four to twenty four first downs in the first half. I mean, it was it was insane in and then the chargers while they had one answer with the Keenan Allen double move touchdown. They did not have consistent answers into me playoff football is about answers. And it's like, you know, Bella check is the ultimate solution, man. Ultimate solution in here. Here's what I think you have to tip your. Headed him, especially they've had so much success for such a long time. They literally can change styles week to week one week. You see him throw fifty times the next week? You're like, okay. Like if you play fantasy like all my guys are gonna have a big they never touch it. Form. Let's go, you know, and then how many? Jays white fin. Fifteen read five of the first drive, just deacon and Dunkin and just paper cutting them. And so with Tom Brady, he's had more success against Seattle style defense than anybody that I can recall in terms of taking the check down. They just stretch you from side to side the other vertical passing game. And then we saw Julian elements show up so going into the championship round you wondering. Okay, they only have two games left. Like who do you put your money off? And you've seen them do is so long that is just it's hard to go away from seeing the pages in the Super Bowl because we have seen them do this time and time again, I think honestly, I think James white is the most difficult weapon they have the game plan for now. Oh, I think so too. Yeah. I mean, I think he I mean, how do you even really you don't because so many places you can put him if somebody like he is their modern day. Kevin Faulk like they have always found a way to do it. It was Kevin Faulk. And for a while. It was Danny Woodhead. Now, James white is kind of shave. Savory like they have these backs that can kiss the ball out the backfield. They could split them all the way out and put him in empty formations. They're motion into the backfield. And do some things they just create so many problems for you. And then they changed the temple go fast and go slow to go big go small they give you a lot as a defense. And you simply don't have enough practice time to handle all of the different things that they throw at you. Yeah. Report out there at Thomas has helped was healthy today on Sunday as he has been since he kind of banged up his knee a little bit midseason it showed. He was studying thirty three or forty four on the neighbor just precision. I mean, one of the throat jewelry Nadal men down the middle late was maybe one of the best stores of seen from him the last half of the season. So look they got it all working. It's a matter of how you can how you deal with the backs. Can you stop the run game? I mean Sony Michelle had over one hundred and three touchdowns in the first half. So that's that's part of it. You know? And so looking at on the other side like with. Chargers. I think my biggest takeaway in watching them. They're not quite ready to take that next step. And the reason I say they're not ready is because as dominant as they looked against the Baltimore Ravens had a great game plan. You like to think that Gus Bradley had no that netted they put six and seven DB's on film that the patients were going to check that they're gonna have a counter that they needed to have something new that they hadn't seen the Kennedy. Just get them off the scent, and they didn't have anything and then they tried to zone them up and you can't really play zone against Tom Brady because he will always check out pardon me, pick your port. And then it took them awhile to settle in. And you know, the turnovers like the turnover and kicking AME really hurt them that was from desma king. Yeah. That was that was the gun puts allow them to kinda separate. And so the chargers put themselves in a nice position the advanced divisional round. But you still feel like came we really take this team seriously as a title contender because they just haven't been able to get over home. They may progress this year. But man, how many more years is Philip rivers. Have how many more years can't? We see them of get close. Not get over the top. Yeah. It was I felt like they they were taking a ton of deep shots, and they weren't hitting them. You don't feel if Phil Phillip does it like I feel like down the stretch he played so well for maybe the first eleven or twelve miles of the season, he was planted MVP level Puerto Rico. He was using the backs more than he ever had. He was allowing the offense to just kinda come to him. And then I felt like he gets in these things where he's trying to force the plays to happen. And I really think that the patriots used against him. We're gonna take away the depot make him dinky duck. And he just. Refused to play this credit me hit the cane Allen shot. Shoulda hit the mic William shot on the first drive. But Mike dropped it. He did make a couple of big third down catches. They they didn't run the ball at all. You know? Maybe I think you see Melvin Gordon out. There were two Don joys, you know. I it's hard when you have double knee on old-line braces on your knees as a running back. He had. The thing that one of the things that we're seeing balances necessary in these game because the balance gives you the opportunity to control the game. And kinda get the game on your terms. And however, you get to that balance where there's running early than throwing as a compliment or throwing early and get into the run you have to be able to run the ball all of the teams that are left have the ability to run the ball nothing. That is something that we have to look at when we're talking about these offices in these new head coaches the running game steel has to manage just how do you want to get there? And and that's a big key to sustaining drives. Which patriots? Did. I drive the first half went seven eleven I drive. They had in the second half was even longer about seven thirty. And that's also something I'm going to get to as we take you to our next takeaway into the game that just wrapped up Sunday evening saints and eagles where I'm going to tell you the dome field advantage doom. The underdogs and looms large. Gets off before the two minute warning days in the pocket throws. Children's killing ladder. The second interception of the game for jersey to the thirty four and better than any time this season saints take a photograph. You know, I thought it was fitting that it was Lattimore that came up with that pick because I do feel like he's the reason they got back in this game. So let me get back to the saints part here. So for the first quarter. It was all eagles right fourteen. But then, you know, Nick foles realizes he is mortal throws an interception to Marshon Lattimore which was under thrown by foles. But was still a great play by Lattimore absolutely in the. The saints got the crowd back into this one. And so there's two things you can't do if you're beating the saints. You have to step on the throat, you cannot open the window even a crack and let them back in number two you especially cannot let them back into a game at home because that crowd will take anything any positive twist, and then they will not shut up for the rest of the game. And you are you gotta deal with it. And the eagles couldn't deal with it. They the eagles. Let the saints scored twenty unanswered points. The fake punt was huge led to the score on that possession. And the now the crowds into a lather it stand up and get cronk and it's over and I'm telling you the saints had just got a touchdown. They were still down. And I was like, well, I mean felt like it was over at that point felt like they were at some point. They going to take the lead, and they were going to never let it up. You know now fire up the Gumbo. It's Marcus Peters rematch in the dome with all that thing with the Rams, but the two other things the in breaking routes with Michael Thomas, I guess Ron on stoppable. Yeah. I mean, like I like the bang eight like the funny thing we've talked about it. Another thing that is a common trait. These teams work the middle of the field. They work inside the numbers. They take the real estate that. Is there be it off play action or drew Brees Tom Brady work in the same those guys work in between the numbers, and they do a great job of taking advantage? What of what your weak spots are in zone in man. And Michael Thomas, yours some people debate. Whether he's the best receiving football. I would say he's not the best receiving football. But I will say that champagne does a great job of putting him in a position to dominate the game on the inside. He's a big slot receiver, which really he is doing the yo stuff that Jimmy Graham used to do he's big he's more physical than you little nickel corners. And so he is just mauling them at the line of scrimmage throughout the run. He creates seperation. He's a big target for drew Brees as Marcus Carlson, did to pack all Marcus Cole. It does what it is. It's exactly like that this team. More than any team that I watch third in thirteen third and sixteen third long might as well be third and short. It's third and manageable. There is no down in distance that is within with that is not within reach for this saints the saints offense. It just it every time drew Brees drops back to pass. If feels like I am going to be surprised if it's incomplete that's just that's just the way it is with them. I mean they worked to digs in the same. Yeah. Digs and seems they go down the same hit the digs the square your thought to a bunch of different players, and they always have the luxury of being able to fall back on their running backs. The best thing this Sean Payton has done the last couple of years. Mark Ingram Alvin Kamara putting those guys together because in Ingram. You got the punishing run who also can give you production in the screening an advocate, mar is really their second receiver. He is number two receiver out the backfield. He creates mismatches, but he also has the ability to run. Tough team. Like, I I can't say that the the most talented team left into tournament. But the way this Sean Payton uses his personnel is fantastic. And I think tastes them hill is a prime example of that way to keep him in enough to game about the shot. He threw it didn't count. He does a great job of maximizing his talent in there with the point where here's where the coaching takes over like the coaching takes over in the final four. You all of these coaches that are here. You can talk about their top coaches on both sides of the ball where this Sean McVay and Wade Phillips Bill Belichick, Josh mcdaniels. Yeah. You think about Sean Payton and what Dennis Allen has done with the defense. And then with the chiefs Andy Reid, Bob Sutton is kinda gotten his defense going, but Andy Reid Eric b enemy that office is so high powered coaching eight man, it it absolutely does. And so on the flip side while say about the eagles, you know, Phillies special season slips through their hands. And I don't just mean the all Sean Jeffrey drop that really sealed the defeat they were up fourteen nothing in they had a perfect first quarter. You could not have scripted a better start to this game for the eagles in New Orleans with. An opportunity to knock off the saints. But then, you know, the interception tip the scales in the saints favor and Phillies succumb to the momentum shifts. They had the saints on the ropes. They let them up. They let them off. They let a mistake change. The course of the game in the saints fed into it the fake punt. They score the touchdown. And then I'm telling you the third quarter. Eleven twenty nine de to drive that lasted eleven minutes in twelve and twenty nine seconds. Eighteen plays a hundred twelve yards actually gained. They scored twice on the tribe. One of them was calling back. And so here's what goes back to my point about the third and third and long or whatever. The rest of the league calls non favorable down a distance. They go second twenty second and twenty third and sixteen I in fifteen all of it. No problem for the drive killers were not drive into the saints. Filling me let him off the hook Philly. Let them off to hook. And it's just amazing how they were able to do it. And and and the saints being balanced and using play action and being able to kind of like the pages man, they come in and out of different personnel packages, and formations they stretch, you horizontally, and vertically just a very very tough out. And in this round you begin to see the injuries. Take the toll because they lost showed him rankings talk about an achilles tear. So he's not available on that front seven. Cam Jordan is kind of like a kind of like, the only do that you really really are concerned about and so can they on divas muster up enough, whether it be stopped a run or to get after the past to be able to effect a ramp team debts, not the wrong being thing. I how are you going to run this? We have to stop the run down his dad that is going to be today how they gonna stop to run how to get it down. Bucky take us home. The chiefs are still. Still the most explosive offense in football. Mahomes. Scrambling to the right side holding a puff thinking the far. Does he? Kansas city. No home runs. It in stretching out the football for the right? For the chiefs answer the black plug for a touchdown with a long dry touchdown. You know when when I look at this team. This team is is really a video game squad is the ultimate team that you could put together on Madden. They speed and explosiveness at all of the weapons on the outside of new parameter. Be tyreek hill Travis Kelsey Sammy Watkins now we have Damien Williams in the backfield. You have the ultimate quarterback in the treatment into gunslinger, Pat, Mahomes, he can throw it out the stadium. He can make plays from all different kinds of platforms. He is very aggressive yet. He takes care of the ball. And then you have the ultimate mastermind in play call in Andy Reid, an AB enemy in terms of what they're doing with the multiple shifts emotions the screen game that they use. They are creative. They do a great job of keeping their foot on the gas while also down the back. So the turnovers don't come. This is a team that is very challenging to defend and it looks like their defense may be good enough to get them there because they can play with the lead. You know? And this was I felt like this is the best we've seen that defense all year long, probably with the I mean, just is the best I've seen just in Houston in default in tandem this year in and then you throw Chris Jones in the middle and the interior and they've got the real potential to bother Tom Brady a lot more than the chargers did which I thought that they were going to do more of this week. It didn't end up happening. But I I was just I'm I'm consistently impressed with the chiefs. And I'm even more impressed with the fact that, you know, they pick up a guy a month ago, and Damian Williams and all of a sudden, you know, they even look more explosive in the run game. They do the more explosive in the run game. And the thing about what he is. He's a nice confident nice change of pace back. I still believe that you know, Kareem hunt gave them something that was a little different in terms of his physicality run the ball a little tougher inside. But you have to worry about. Oh, so much on the perimeter that man, we is an afterthought, but he's so explosive that he makes you pay for not to them, you're focused on tyreek hill and Travis kills Unisem. We walk as make some plays early. He did show up a big catch. So now, you okay, we need to corral this passing game. And endangering weaves is hitting. You pee it on on runs or screens or underneath plays. And so it is a lot to defend and the one thing that we can say for all these teams, I will say the pages are a little bit of the exception. Because their talent is a little different the multiplicity of how they play in how they get you. They can attack you so many different ways that they make it very difficult for the defensive coordinator to make choices on what are the most important things that we need to take away from this offense. And so I go back to what I mentioned before. And to me like playoff football seems like seems to me to be about what answers you have. Whether it's something that you're doing. That's not. Working. You know, what else can we find to kick start an offense or how do we respond to what a defense or to win? Another offense is doing to us. I mean, the chiefs to me showed answers they get the punt blocked which could have been a tied Turner in that game. And they came right back down like MAC and Mahomes scores the rushing touchdown bleed. Sammy Watkins that fumble in gave the ball to the colts in-chief territory and then edge rush comes around and forces the fumble on luck right away on the very next possessed. So like they answered adversity there. They found answers into me like Travis Kelsey is one of the best answers in all football because whether the whether you're taking away deep shots that tyreek hill coming up to stop the run. I mean like Chelsea's like he's like the the the perfect answer to anything because he's a mismatch on anybody. And that stuff that's difficult to deal with it is difficult to deal with. But if I'm the ended up as a still feel good about what we were able to accomplish this you we were able to bounce back from a one if. Five start. We made the playoffs. We kind of solidified our identity because we became more of a blue collar squad than a finesse thought around the yard team. The office of line looked like they are able to dominate at times. Andrew luck made it through the entire season. Without having a recurrent injury. Frank, right and quarterback appeared to be able to me excited onto right thing and Moreland MAC, you discover that you have a back but in bowing out where they bowed out. I think he gives Chris Ballard enough clarity rely. Okay. Look, we're solid. But for us to take the next step. We need to ask some more pieces. They're being conversations about maybe levian Bill would be fit there as a running back. Maybe they need to go and find another receiver or playmates we he'd be fit there both could use another perimeter. And so when you when you look at this team, and how they going they have an opportunity to stack some more draft picks on top of what they currently have on their foundation. If I'm Chris Ballard. I'm disappointed that we weren't able to go on. But I feel good about. Okay. Here's part two of the plan. They we put in place with Frank, right? We should have an opportunity to begin to dominate our division because they look like even with the Houston, Texas. They like a team that is on the rise. And that could give them an opportunity to come to Lord over the division, which gives them an opportunity to be one of those teams that we always talk about being into tournament where Andrew luck. No question about it and a little more edge rush. And this is a this is a real dangerous football team. And and that's going to be a fun division watch as well considering the run that the Texans had this year. In addition with the colts did so all right there, we go a little divisional round takeaway pod there. Now in the books, of course, all of our content NFL dot com slash Mt. S video we're going to have some championship game breakdowns. They're going to be there. Youtube dot com slash NFL, apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. DJ's back in the saddle later this week. It's been fun nine with you guys. And so we'll see you next time. Sure.

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Did the Dolphins find their version of Brett Favre?

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

44:24 min | 1 year ago

Did the Dolphins find their version of Brett Favre?

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's going on everybody? Here. We are now one week post draft officially on this Thursday. And we're almost done with half of the draft is to move the six podcast right Lewis in for DJ with my man Bucky Brooks ready to rock and roll here today still looking back at the draft though, Buckingham kind of excited. I know it probably a little extra work for you like going going. You know, we did our favorite players by round go. Yeah. Now that we've got the actual results. Let's go favorite picks by Ron will do that. And then kind of take a look at best offensive and defensive drafts too. Yeah. Is gonna be I think the big thing obviously doing Patas draft with you the run up to the draft so many conversations that we have about all these different players. And then you back in you go to draft day and draft weekend. And you realize how many plays you didn't talk about how many players. You didn't have a chance to talk about just because of the show dynamics of whatever you just don't get all the names in. And then there's a big names down there too. You know, what I mean, some big big names player we didn't. So we can try and touch all those guys that she'd have got a little Sean running up to the draft. But now they've been picked and Landon routines. We can talk about them for sure of speaking of shine. Guess I wanna start this episode though by talking about the shine wearing off of Josh Rosen and Arizona, and maybe left a little shiner based on the way they him leaving. Now, he is often Miami. And I wanna start this because you had an interesting take on this on the Colin coward show this week. So we're you said the dolphins might have found their version of Brett farve too. The Packers me the rationale here. Okay. So here's the rationale in early nineties ninety two right before I got I got to the Packers ninety five the Green Bay Packers where he. Were able to pull off a deal with the Atlanta Falcons for Brett Farr breath. Or if you've been a second round pick for the falcons for whatever reason his first year in Atlanta didn't go according to plan. He was available. Ron woolfe had always had his breath for thought he was one of the top players Cantu, kicked himself for not being able to make the move to get him. And so he traded form he brings him in. And he put them behind the magic man dommage. Cow. Ski was starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers breath forward to come in and come to learn and whenever he got his opportunity maybe he would be the starting quarterback. And so when I look at how breath are kind of worked his way to kind of pick himself up by the bootstraps finally was able to display the talent that a lot of people are seeing him under control grin. You saw a guy in evolve into a three-time MVP quarterback. God that was a Super Bowl winner. One of the best quarterbacks and football. And Josh Rosen. I think it goes without question that he is wanting more talented throwers that we've seen in the draft class last year. I think you could say he might have been the purest passer when it comes to being able to throw from the pocket and use all areas of the feel and those things the issue that is always around Josh two issues one durability because he was banged up and beat up most of his time at UCLA. And then the second was kind of Senate around his personality is he aloof how does he fit in a blend in with the locker room, what would his interactions be with coaches? And so because of that like this kind of been this weird thing that has surrounded him when it comes to evaluation like people aren't as high on Rosen as most people would when you just kind of looked at the tape. And so I believe he gets. Opportunity to do a career reset and go into Miami. I believe he jumps into a system that kind of plays to the strength of who he is person. And is a player meaning is a high Q system as one that you know, he play because around him he can get the ball out. He can do things. The office of line is improved from what he played behind. Great. But it's it's. Stat hurt to stand on TV last year. He was sex seventeen times on passes. There were two point five seconds or less in terms of release time. Insane. Unrolling rush rush free rushing lights like people not getting there. So he goes, and I think the coaching staff that will have the opportunity to work with him will fit. How he is. Jim call will be in the quarterback coach Chad O'Shea being the offensive coordinator coming from this system in New England, very cerebral system. A lot on the intelligence in the processing of the quarter of absolute Bryant flory's also coming from New England, and understanding that I just believe this will be a nice fit for him, and he'll have opportunity to show people. And if it hits like we think it may hit if he plays. Well, the grim the Miami Dolphins will have found a version of a starting quarterback for the next three years. They have on the cheap while they're able to build up the rest of their roster must like Green Bay was able to do in the mid nineties where they got Brett farve. And then after that they're able to put the pieces in place around him. I think in Miami. They may have an opportunity to do the same. By the way, just to finish up as you introduce the magic man to us. They're done dumb account. He's in for forty three hundred yards in one thousand nine hundred nine that's that was virtually unheard of back then also through twenty interceptions. Twenty seven touchdown twenty forty three hundred yards. There's a lot. He never threw for more than two thousand and his career after that the magic. Mobile. Oh, they still talk about talk about them. Updating. For them that weekend. When I was there last it was a pro bowler. Okay. I think that's a a Pro Bowl and he ninety two three hundred yards. He led the league in passing. Yeah. Prob- eighty nine. They went ten and six year. Okay. I think that's a great take on on Rosen. And in a roundabout way, I'm going to get to Rosen again here because some round me up on Twitter during the draft on Friday and get riled up easy. In fact, I'm probably I was telling kit this before you walked in. I'm probably the last person to engage in argument on to-, you give them a Twitter argument, but not not really a little bit. I just I got angered and my man Darren reveal. Sports is is sports action networks something like that. And so he puts out some good content sums content that I enjoy. And I and I usually appreciate it. This will be the wrong way tweeted on night two. Can't remember a draft in recent history. That was this boring. Little intrigue not that many college stars to wait for. And I was like man you're trying to ruin Christmas for me. Right. Don't do that. And so I had to quote tweet, and I had to just politely say could not disagree more. He then fired back and was like really share. What's been exciting tonight? And I was like, okay. I'm not going to do. I'm not I'm not I'm going to do it. I'm gonna do it. And so I was like, okay. I'm just going to do this one thing. And I'm a let it be. I'm not going to get in a prolonged battle here. So I said, okay Darren there is a trade scenario working itself out in real time up and down the draft board as we're going through round two. Hear that involves a player taking number ten overall. Just last year. This never happens. It is unprecedented. I mean, we're talking about the dolphins who emerged as the major sooner for Rosen had the forty eighth overall pick. It's the forty seventh pick in there's no trade yet. And then there's a trade, but it's the dolphins moving down to sixty two. So you're like, okay, they're buying themselves. A little more time to try to figure this thing out with Steve time. And and then eventually we get to sixty two and we learned that that is the trae pick. Right. And I'm like did that was exciting. That was really exciting. I mean, we're talking about a potential franchise quarterback traded. But we weren't sure they were actual deadlines in place here like because what if the dolphins made the picket forty-eight dinner, they interested are the cardinals interested in trading for third round pick. Is it over is Rosen going to stay now with Cuyler Murray, which is intriguing in and of itself. And so I left that there was like that's one piece of entry. I'm not even going to mention the fact that decay Metcalf. The darling. Of the Predrag runup fell out of the first round almost fell out of the second round Hussein your tackle was available in the second round. Who was going to be the next running back off the board, and drew where's drew lock to go who's going to be that fifth quarterback. I'm like guy there is intrigue all over the place here in round two. Just bothered me a little bit. But the Rosen thing was was the biggest for me Farda like there. Because I think and I think what is annoying for those of us that are like thousand people came to Nashville draft for the million watch for those this intimately involved in the drought. Not only that it outright s- NBA playoff game. Like the MBA is in the midst of their playoff tournament. And people are more intrigued to see names come off the draft board into watch be role in highlights. Like, that's basically what it is. And so for us, I think is is a little difficult when the casual fly by night fans kinda come in and come out and say, oh, there's no starpower when in essence what you're doing you. Watching a bunch of kids realize dreams is the culmination of a lot of our work for a lot of people their families and all that. And so what should be coronation, which should be a celebration a lot of criticism going on? And that is why and I'll say this going in. I feel bad about what happened after dinner Jones. Nhs was selected six overall by the New York Giants because regardless of how we felt or how people believe the Josh should have proceeded a whatever that was guys night. That was his special moment. The fact that he's had to hear booze and catcalls and all that other stuff from people around before he even stepped onto the field before even puts on jersey or anything to me that's not unfair. And I know we live in it's on Twitter and Instagram and people just critique and say anything and everything, but what I hope is. I hope that he has an opportunity to come to shove it and people because the I think is a better player than people give him credit for every Gossett. Whether we think he's six best player. I understood the rationale behind the move and we'll see plays out because ultimately everyone is going to be judged on how they play him perform on the field. I just wish that people would have taken a little time to let him enjoy his moment. You know what? But that's why they drafted him. Because in his own way. He's just going to brush that shoulder off. Yeah. I mean like, I get it. Yeah. You want everyone to give you a standing over? You know when you're the pick. You're the guy you're the quarterback the future quarterback of the New York Giants. But you know, what I think he's totally okay. With all understand. And I think he look David get them and has come out and try to defend the pick. And I don't think you really have to ultimately he'll defend it, by the way to deploy as an a team that you build around him. However, he did talk about the position of playing quarterback for the New York. Giants is different than others. You have to have the right stuff the right makeup. You can't be caught up in some of the other stuff, and I do know from our interactions with him and his family, it appears that Daniel has the right stuff mentally to be able to endure and handle it. And we're just gonna see how it plays out when they finally put the team around him and give him the ball, and in that light talking about Daniel Jones moment, and it's the last thing get to before we get to our favorite picks by round here. I've got a little credit to our producer Ryan yacht yesterday on path to the draft because he was watching round two of the draft intrigue that surrounded it and one of the most emotional moments was when Reggie Cobb son DeMarcus got to announce the forty nine or second round pick after Reggie had passed just that week of rather, suddenly, and you know, and rightly so that moment was about was about Reggie and a little tribute to him from from Charles Davis. But also in in that way, deebo Samuel didn't get his moment on the draft broadcast, and he deserved it. He was a high second round pick the forty Niners a good pick pick. We all really liked. And so Ryan had the good idea to kind of re reenact that that moment for him on path of the graph yesterday. So if you if you haven't seen that go check it out shirts on NFL dot com right now. But I thought that was really cool also on the side note. What do you guys think about having like Pat McAfee show up and kind of give w e? Reggie Wayne calling out the Tennessee titans. Reggie gonna give their three times though. It got a little. I also didn't realize they've only beaten the colts three of the last twenty times until he said that I didn't know that was that bad. I knew it was something domination domination. Reggie Reggie definitely sparked it up. I think you kind of just adds a new addition to the drought you guys go up. I do like that. I'm glad we didn't get ten different fly eagles fly chance. Like we did that second year in Philadelphia. It was stuck out a little bit old. But yeah, that stuff is really cool. I agree with you there kin. Let's let's jump into it here. Let's go favorite picks by round. You wanna lead us off with your favourite first round pick here Bucky favors round pick for me. The Pittsburgh Steelers selecting Devon Bush. Not only because they aggressively made a move up the board, which is not their style. But they gotta play they fit what they need in terms of style of play in difference maker this Pittsburgh Steelers defense has not been the same since Ryan. She's us unfortunate injury. They needed a guy that was an energetic playmaker. In the middle of defense. They needed someone who had their lettuces and to make plays against a run. But also cover it could add a little different element as a Blitzer Devin Bush is all of that. And when I'll watch him play. He reminds me of a still me he's tough. He's hard knows. He's blue collar. He brings all of that toughness that you have to have to play for them. So to me, I thought it was a great fit. And also think it was another step in the right direction for Mike Tomlin trying to reestablish the culture in that locker room. I agree with you. I think that's awesome. And you know, if you if you've identified your guy, go get him, go get him 'cause you don't get to be there. Don't wait, wait. Okay. My favorite first round pick. And this may come as a bit of a surprise. Is Titus Howard to Houston Texans with the twenty third pick? And so this the rational behind this one is I think there's a perception that when the eagles traded up and got in front of the Texans to take Andre Dillard who fell a little bit. We thought he might grow in the first fit for sixteen. That there was panic in the Texans draft room that they were like, oh Dillard's gone. What are we going to do? My gosh. Let's Titus Howard. And if you go to the Texans Instagram right now, and you go back a couple of days, and you look at Brian gain in control of that war room at the time. That selection was going to be made. It was impressive. He is standing up, and they have a pretty big war room of a lot of people in. There are some teams that have a smaller room, and he stood up there and gave the pitch for Titus Howard to the organization. He was like we are building this franchise around to Shawn Watson, we are building blocks around him to protect him. That is what this is all about tightest Howard passed the test at every turn from combine to the senior bowl to thirty visit to the workout. He is going to be a building block for us to accentuate, Sean Watson's talent. And he said it so calmly and so matter of factly, and then handed the phone over to. To Bill O'Brien who then said, we're building bodyguards for Shawn Watson, you are one of the bodyguards like it. And I was like, you know, what this is a team that was not, you know, this was not their second choice, and then cow McNair, the owner got up and was like we were hoping you were gonna slide to us, and you can say whatever you want about whether that was actually the case. But I thought it was really cool the rationale for the pick the idea behind the pick and you can evaluate whether you thought they missed out on Dillard and had to settle and I think I think that's the thing. And here's the tricky part about draft analysis by draft analysis as some point it has to go away from what you personally think about a player to a how did a team and the draft board or what do they visit this player doing? And so so much of the immediate knee-jerk reaction was oh they missed out. Andrea dill, but we don't even know if valued Andrea Diller like correct that debt is a thing that we don't know on our side. We speculate how these guys may be ranked on the board. But unless you're in the room, you really don't know how teams value or covet those guys until that's maybe get a little insight those posts drought phone calls. So if they believed that Titus out was a first round pick. If they believe he's the right guy for them. We'll see. But as you talked about him making the pitch that is how it typically goes down. You make the pitch you stand on to tape for you guy. You let everyone know here's why he fits us. Here's how he's going to help us. Here's the planet. We envisioned for him years two three and four and how the team will collectively grow with him. And so wasn't defending the pick. He was saying this is how we're building this team. Right. And look it we've talked about the quarterback and how you have to like build your team around a quarterback. And makes you that the quarterback has the things that he needs to floors and to Shawn Watson can't take the beaten that it took last year with all the leakage into the pocket. They have to short it up and make sure that he is able to kind of throw from grassy knoll. And so to go and get Titus out and into go back in the second round and get max sharpening, and they'll like you have to double down and make sure that he is protected. He gets what he needs and they got some other players to to help them. And so it is about this. So look, I'm I'm with it. Like, that's that's big on brand gain to come to have it because there shouldn't be panic in the draft room, and we'll shouldn't should be like the chiefs and ninety four deciding whether you're gonna take Greg Hiller. Mario bates. No. So anyway, that's a whole nother story, but we'll we'll go faster there. But I just I wanted to make that clear because I thought it was really neat. And I'm glad to Texans shared that on social media to. Okay, I'm excited about your favorite second round pick around to Dallas Cowboys tristen hill defensive tackle from central Florida. I love this pick for variety of reasons. Rod Mary Nellie had struck up a relationship with Tristan hill struck overlay ship to the point that he had. Tristen hill sign a work ethic. Contrast before the draft saying that if he comes to the Dallas Cowboys that he's going to meet the standards of performance that is expected of a Dallas cowboy to effort to energy the toughness, all of those things. And so to me I was like man dad is terrific. But then when you go back, and you look at the tape, and you watch tristen hill, you talk about a guy who was arguably the most talented player on the team, but they didn't start him. He's a backup player for whatever reason. He Anna coaches to staff didn't job, but rod Marinelli who has a long track record of maximizing the performance of guys that he coaches guess effort guy loves effort got demands effort an engineer from his guys. I think this is the perfect fit and Tristan hill could be a star Fidel, Scott, I'm with you on that for sure and I'll go to the Broncos pick their first pick of the second round Dalton riser offensive linemen because I he might play everywhere on their offensive line. It's gonna tackle in him might start out at guard has played center they lost Matt Paradis. But we're talking about a guy who could very well be a Pro Bowl offense of Lyman for the Broncos in area where they have been in dire. Need the last? I don't know five years. What is it is definitely going to be an all pro in their community. And you've seen the feature on path to the draft and on our draft coverage. In fact, it resonated so much with people that crashed his foundation's website reisner up dot com during our pre-draft show on night one. Like, that's that's how much this guy resonates with people. And I guarantee you that community is going to wrap their arms around him. And that's going to be a really nice match there. I feel like for riser who grew up in Wiggins Colorado about sixty miles outside of Denver. I mean is great. Did you get a chance to play in front of you right in front of everything? And look the ever steady. Evers? Did he is done away from to feel our TV commended it'd be great to have a Broncos community kind of elevate. What he's been able to do off to feel. And I think he's going to be a pretty good player on the field. Now route three which you got for me is interesting because the Chicago Bears landed David Montgomery from Iowa State. And I absolutely love this picking maybe maybe my favorite pick of the draft. And it's because it's because it's defeat. It is the match between a hybrid running back a guy who is a terrific runningback being able to run inside and outside. He can catch the ball out the backfield. He's tough as nails and shows an impasse protection in an offense. They Matt Nagy has built that really can make running back star player. We saw what they offense didn't Kansas City when Kareem hunt was playing it. And you think about a guy like David Montgomery having the same opportunities. I mean, I think this guy can be a fantastic play. And that doesn't take anything away from Tariq Owen who I think would be a supplemental or company. Please. But I believe this guy. David Montgomery could be kind of like a David joss type player for him. David Johnson from getting to wait at he's able to kind of get down and do things as a run an receiver. I think it's going to be an awesome Tanta back there. And to be honest with you, I didn't have a first round pick. The second round pick, David Montgomery, sir. I pick and it came in round three L believable that he's there for them and they were in under the radar. Honorable mention if you will best offenses draft for me, which we're going to get to here shortly with their pick of David Montgomery, and then Riley Ridley the that. I mean, those two really good offense players that you get in the middle rounds. They're my favorite third round pick though. I mean, it's it's the most patriot pick ever for sure she's win of it from Michigan the edge rusher going to the patriots, by the way that you know, he's he's related to Dave damasec, his mom and damaged X mom or cousins check showed at the picture yesterday at his bar. Mitzvah Greenwich says mom checks for mitzvah. Yeah. Does win of it. You know that I think he said he reached out the him. But he hasn't heard back yet. So it's been mentioned to my. But I don't know if he quite knows the whole story. You know, who Dave damasec is. You'd have to ask chase win of it. So I'm not sure. Okay. All right. We'll find it that we'll find out. But I mean, the key is a more athletic Rodney vich, and we saw how productive Robin individuals for the patriots. I mean, they're going to be able to do whatever they want with him. And he's going to be totally okay with it. In fact, I think the very first his very first action as a patriot was to say, I gotta check with coach to see if I can answer this. I mean, he's already right falls right in line. That you have to come to operate with great pig. Great fit kind of reminds me of Nicorette. So I I believe it absolutely works. Okay. What you got in round for round four airs on a cardinals taken Hakim Butler. Why resilient from Iowa State? We talked about it on path the other day. I believe that the cardinals have really kind of created a basketball team around calamari a mix us some guys that can fly down to wing some big guys that can post up and Hakim bull is the guy that is opposed to player that should be dominant player down in the red zone. His size his length is leaving ability. The fact that he also has enough speed to take the top off average twenty two yards per catch. His final season, I stayed. I just think this is a nice fit for them and for him to have an opportunity to learn behind layer FitzGerald, how to be a pro how to run rouse this should benefit him where I think he has an opportunity to being really really good player. I like this pick more than I like the Denney Isabella pick second round for the cardinals at wideout. I, you know, knowing they've already got Christian Kirk there. I I liked that. Now, you've got a guy in the outside here in Keene Butler that kind of gives you another one of those roles. So definitely like that pick picking the cardinals. I mean, you know, where I was going with my favorite pick. Mom, man. Wes, Martin ofensive linemen Indiana now going to go protect Wayne Haskins for the next ten years. I mean, come on a Guinea better not talking about a guy with almost forty bench reps. He will not get overpowered the interior. I'll just I'll just like one day I show up at work and there's a package for you right now. And I could only wish that is to candy. Candy striper candy-stripe fool, Indiana warm-up, did you can just walk around like pretending to be Bobby. Knight raised it a play there because you are at the heart believe it man, you better leaving. But in all honesty, I mean, we're talking about matchups rookie and rookie. I mean, west Martin and Dexter Lawrence going head to head here. Twice a year over the Redskins in the giants. Dumb excited. I'm excited for west. He's a good guy. He's a good player. Kind of like, Dan Feeney was definitely can get it done in the interior for the Redskins. So moving onto round five this. This was a bit of a shocker bidding. Bit of a shocker bit Biggs of rise. Cleveland Browns grabbing MAC Wilson linebacker from Alabama in the fifth round fifth row to throw MAC Watson guy that we had mocked initially a first round pick. And a lot of times we kind of settled day to Abia a second or third round pick the fact that he goes in the fifth round as surprising based on the way to do played at Alabama. We thought he could be a guy that would be a really really solid player in pass coverage thought he has some intriguing skills in terms of being able to run and chase. There was some Scotto Buddhism conversation about his fit, and maybe maturity those things. But he was too good of a player in my estimation. To to to make it to the fifth round Cleveland school, some up Cleveland, John Dorsey and Alonzo Highsmith and Elliott Wolff. Those guys value productive players out think devalue that Mak Wilson brings as a productive player that also has some versatility and some leadership skills and some awareness and instincts. He's going to have a chance to believe. But in the year, maybe kind of crack and sneak into the starting lineup. Look I again, I absolutely stunned that he lasted fifth round. What how about eighteen picks later? Final pick of the fifth round. A man coal Holcomb a tarheel from UNC come on going to the rise. I know. I'll try not to be a Homer because the risk is had two of my guys. They took Bryce love into fourth. Yeah. Yeah. Holcomb into fifth. And so what I decided I was going to excuse myself. I was going back up out of the Redskins and cloak, and I was gonna let go so that's why I didn't Bacall Hoke and going from Carolina into fifth round. Give you a bonus on now. Winter he goes agent it. Yeah. She kind of text me and told me that aid is a lot of buzz around. And we saw him at EastWest Ryan game. He played really. Well, did he tested they realize a high level? Okay. And so that's coming. That's cool and believe rich Eisen signed off our draft coverage by asking raise your hand. If you're on the monitor had a player picked in the draft DJ, if you're listening at home Bucky, and I are raising her hand. Oh, yeah. Has a high yours are not your hands are not raised. No. I'm surprised. Jalen more better drafted it. Next year. Maybe they can find. Let's move into around six who you got Tennessee titans. Oh, wait. I didn't get my round five. Oh. Get my body. I like this pick here money or a warrior from Penn State who kind of got the low down from from his head coach James Franklin when he's down at the senior bowl. And yeah, he gave him a ringing endorsement as you would expect from his head coach. But this is an interesting player for the lions I feel like this long big corner. Six almost six two or actually just over six hundred a half two hundred five pounds. Rainfall four seven at the combine nice move and chosen ball skills. Watching him. I'll tell he's pretty solid. He reminded me a lot of Richard Sherman. Yeah. In terms of his ability to to kind of saw shuffling play some zone coverage being able to play man he had that game clinching interception against deejays al-matar early in the year. And so good player. There you give them around five and especially in Detroit where they're trying to make over they mentality. When it comes to the toughness a good fit for him. So maybe you know, if you go back to patriots lower from talking about patriots in the mid west hair, Matt Patricia like to Leib ish in some qualities with with some physicality and some size there at corner put him out opposite dairy sleigh. It'll be an interesting pick there for the lines. I also liked them getting Austin Bryant, by the way in the round before that. On a good player. Underrated donate Clemson deal on really solid player. Move around six. David long. Yes. Tennessee titans. David long big two of defense plea to year linebacker from West Virginia. Another great pick because Mike is trying to do. He's trying to get enough players that can play on the edge. You can give him some pass rush ability to give them some blitz ability. David long can do those things I like his f- lettuces him his versatility kinda surprised that he made it all the way down here to the six round. But for the titans. Great pig. Great fit. I love that as well. I thought the titans made some some really good picks starting with Jeffrey Simmons number one overall for them. And then I also like the money Hooker in the fourth round, Wisconsin. What does it say about the big twelve though that they're big twelve different players? Six. It's not a good thing when they have balls flying all over the yard. But at some point they stopped somebody. And maybe it just we didn't look at we go back and look at the raiders picks. Here. Do you remember in the booth of the senior bowl two years ago may ox up there, and they bring Mason Rudolph in and may I ask is just crushing Mason Rudolph because of the big twelve defenses that he played against like he had any control. It's not his and I'm like, Mike, take it easy. Did Mike pick any big twelve defensive players. That's what I that's all. I want to know. Here we go. Max Crosby Johnson. I Quin Bill bell no writing. Nope. No, no, big twelve. So it didn't expand any. Makes sense my favorite sixth round pick. I got to meet him down at the manning passing academy trace McSorley out of Penn State to the ravens their last pick of the draft. They didn't have a seventh rounder. This was phenomenal. I I don't know where he's gonna play or how he's gonna play. But they're going to figure it out. I think so, you know, for me I love to pick a love what he does. I think it just as to this full commitment that they have to the read option game does go into with Lamar Jackson now in the quarterback room you have three quarterbacks wedding. This system trace McSorley? It was a guy that was recruited as a safety as well. As a cornerback as a quarterback coming out of high school. And so they have versatility that f- lettuce, isn't that toughness that he's been able to display it's a really really good fit in Baltimore. No question. And I think John Harbaugh was like, I don't know we met playing everywhere, you know. So that's I think that's a really cool weapon. Cool tool for you have their down at the bottom. End of the draft moving into around seventy going back to the Panthers which got here. I'm going back to the depends. I'm going with Terry Godwin from George. This is a five star year for Georgia receiver saw star crew coming out of high school the guy that also played baseball. So it speaks to his ball skills. But for what he could potentially do for the Carolina Panthers as a returner as another speed demon on the outside as they're beginning to remake this wide receiver core and put more speed on the field around Cam Newton. He's going to have an opportunity to compete and get a little spot weaking Ernst and time getting a rotation scouts, by the way. Look at that stuff. When you God own was a five school Byron coward. Of course, went to the fifth round with the patriots. He was a number one overall recruit does that factor in where scouts kind of look at that at least a little bit. So it's funny because I had this conversation. I had with Josh Snyder of the Seattle Seahawks. We're going back and forth. And I was telling my experiences at the opening, and I was like man if I was back in the business. I would encourage everybody to dig up those. Oh. Recruiting lists and just trying to figure out where did all the five stars. Go just to see. Because at some point the way the recruiting rankings are now guys don't typically miss. I would just like to track them down. And just kinda see where those guys are. Because I think it's at least taken a flyer on guys as a free agent to kinda see if they cause if dad enough talent at one point to be considered one of the guys in the country. There may be something that you're going to cover. That's interesting. So Georgia, Ohio State, really good wide receiver classes this year. And I'm going to go to Ohio State for my favorite seventh round pick, Mike Weber, boys. Ryan Weber was a guy who was eventually replaced in the feature role by JK Dobbins once once he got onto campus. But Webber was a productive player at Ohio State. And now he's going in where there's another productive Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott there with Dallas and just kind of bolstering that backfield a little bit. I think he could he could provide some nice depth there for him. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Can't provide some dip and with Zeke Elliott kind of nearing the end of his rookie contract. And there may be some conversation about how much they pay them. Do they pay them bringing on Mike Weber and also Tony pilot two guys that can maybe crack and fight and compete for the number two spot behind him. There's a future for those guys. We'll see how much of how much potential and production might wills able display in training camp and into free season. He's we'll get every opportunity to be into mix. No question. Okay. So that you don't want. Let's give while it was on the high state kick. Let me give one little bonus favorite priority free agent, Johnny Dixon, Johnny Dixon. I knew he had the sa- medical issues. Maybe we'll kept him out. But I was surprised him. I didn't take a seventh-round flyer on him especially after how how well he didn't approach routes as good specialty here, especially he's a good player fortunate. He'd been banged up a little bit during this time. But man, he's a good player came on like game buses and we're seeing now in the league twenty percent of the league is comprised of undrafted. Yeah. Look man, you need a chance. So we'll see if he gets his chance to make it. Okay. Let's move on and finish up. This episode by doing our best offenses in defensive drafts. So taking a look at the draft class as a whole and separating it out offense and defense finding out who had the best offensive draft class this year. Bookie who gets the nod for you. Then for me goes to the San Francisco forty Niners and Ephron mentioned deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd, cayden Smith, those guys to me, I think have a chance to be contributors for the forty eight one deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd, versatile playmakers guys that can give you all kinds of production under perimeter into passing game. Cadence myth is another from Stanford. I felt like was a little underrated. But I think he's going to have an opportunity we have seen Stanford has produced tied in after tied in when it comes to the league. I've recently been surpassed by Iowa because I had to personnel side ends became Smith is another in a long line of Stanford tight ends. They find a way to the league. We'll see if he's able to stay because if he sticks. This is a very very productive class for the forty Niners. That's a good one. And you get the punter. Mitch wish now ski which I think technically falls on the defensive side of things but could bail out the offense a little bit there. You'll give us a credit to. Okay, we'll give us a credit. All right. I'm going to say this is kind of interesting one for me. The eagles were my favorite offensive draft here. Number one. They trade up and get Andre Dillard, arguably the best tackle they get him at number twenty two does a good class. They come back and get miles Sanders. Who's definitely a top five running back this year say which one about the strength of this class as a whole, but a guy with really only one year tread on the tires, and it was a productive year after he got out of saquon Barkley shadow and Philly needs some backs. Yeah, they got Jordan Howard. But you know, they they run a stable Baxter there. And he could be another piece of that puzzle for him JJ or Sega Whiteside went talking. Red zone threats big time at fourteen touchdowns last year asked and answered we know he can get it done and put the ball in the paint. They're also like Clayton Thorson. You know, I'm a big Nate Sud field fan. So obviously our backup quarterback there and Philly, but Clayton really impressed me when he joined us on path to the draft. I think he is he's going to be a really good guy for that room. And kind of help them fill out that's going to be a really nice quarterback room there with wince Saad felt in Thorson. And so that really kind of caught my at four four hundred fix office of players. And I want to say is courtesy their next next man up. I mean in their position to take over for people that previous spot Audrey dealer for Jason Peters. Mal Sanders for Jordan Howard, anyway, Jay or so you'll Wieser potentially for. Agla all Sean, depending on how long that lasts so nice picks because it gives them a year to kind of Richard and put themselves in a position to carve out bigger roles. Okay. Let's flip to the defensive side of all what you got there. So I went with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and some of this is due to the quality of players day got. But also the depth in the number of defensive players that he took you talk about a team to to them count. One two three four five. We've of kicker six seven seven hundred eighty picks defensive guys Devon white is to head Lonner gives them automatic leader. In the middle of the defense. Then you get two Cornerbacks and Sean bunny Djamil dean fast explosive who have opportunities to kind of jump into makes and Todd Bowles defense. Anthony, Nelson kinda comes into the mix and interior Beck ner at the very end of the draft. So you talk about really committing all of the resources to try and improve. That defense does what Tempe book in Israel to do. So. They went to corners in the second round right dip. Dip. They went to corners in the second round last year Carlton Davis and j Stewart story. Oh, yeah. But and then you go back to Vernon Hargraves who they took three years ago. They take it five corners of the first two rows. And they don't feel good about the position to vote. That is the only way that you could come back and take those two. And you think you could make an argument that, you know, Todd Bowles may want something a little bit different out of that position. So they won't back differently. They want to build up to death or you may want to make it a very very competitive situation and see what transpires However, I can tell you. When you commit to second round pick those guys are going to be there. They're going to be there. And so my favorite defensive draft. This might come as a bit of a surprise the giants and look. Yeah. Maybe you to look. Honestly, go ahead. What's your saying? In in in looking at that. Because so much conversation has centered around Daniel Jones Lawrence. I don't know if people look beyond that at the rest of their class, and look, yeah, you can make an argument that you know, Dexter Lawrence might have been a little bit of a reach at seventeen to down player. Maybe they get a little more pass rush out of him and keep them on the field. But you know, you you you trade Damon Harrison last year snacks Arison. But I think you've got a nice another nice piece of that rotation there in Lawrence. And then you come back Danbury Baker who might be the best corner in the class. He might be might end up in a a really good starting cornerback for the giants. And then you come back. You don't have your second round. And you come back, and you get o'shane imminence as your Ed rusher because we know the sex through sex ABC's like a Yanni Ken Gakugei who kind of fell into that second third round rusher. Mold. So, you know, I think that's got potential to be a really good defensive draft. So it does have potential. So let's do this. Because we kind of did this on the show a lot of times. We'll be doing in clusters who would you rather have? And so you could have Daniel gills in o'shane Zimmer says or you could have Josh Allen. And we'll Greer who would you rather have? Because I tell you if you third world looking at quarterbacks, right? It was it was only rear we're looking at. We'll we're or went to four four. Ryan finley. So who are you more comfortable with when it comes down to it? And I think you like to say I got the quarterback that I want and I gotta pass rush who has a proven track record and the three four defense of being able to get to the quarterback. Maybe we came out on the top side of. Well, I think you would you know, if you follow DJ's logic. You would have to say it's Daniel Jones ins imminence rather than because you'd rather take the quarterback that you feel this about this. And I'm not saying pass rushers grow on trees. Like DJ was saying with the running backs the other day, but. Interesting over you've seen a number of patch versions come outside of the first round and have success. And so the odds would tell you that you more likely to find a Pash Russia didn't a quarterback outside of the first one. And that's pretty much going to do it for us. But sorry, I got slightly distracted when we were going through seventh round picks because of my tweet deck here it popped up in you can appreciate this coach Brooks Melba high school dropping football yet to draw from a they dropped from eleven man football. That means they're doing eight minutes able play people play eight man football Muslim school. They play. Really? This is a weird thing to look at. I thought that happened in like rural Minnesota Scott Ross Scott frost is right player who late and very rush. Rush. It'll be is the wolf was able to do it. Shapes. The different is a different kind of all some areas that participation is down. So you try and give yourself a fighting chance and eight men ball. I mean, you can get it done with twenty twenty five dudes trying to feeling I hear you look. It's your game though, surf out their mouth surfers arena bowl. So I guess this is our final week of the draft. You're going to be here on the podcast, obviously start transferring into the full on coach Brooks mode here pretty full on covert starting starting Monday really starting or some face to face to the program. So phase one we've been working out at six am the guys who've been getting up and working out and doing some stuff on the feeling into weight room. But we'll finally have some little mini practices for the next ten days. When we start on Monday. We'll go Monday to Friday Monday to Friday get those guys out there run around and do some fun stuff. And we'll kind of see. We have. And then we are back for final path of draft episode on Friday, make sure to tune in a lot of fun and games to send. But. But it's Friday Friday f block even have a production meeting. Join. I don't know. But we're gonna we're gonna finish it out for you. And remember, all your MTS, content and NFL all dot com. Video YouTube dot com slash NFL, apple podcasts. Thanks for hanging out with us here today. We're back next week moves six podcasts.

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2019 WR Prospect Deep Dive & NC States Finley & Bradbury join the show!

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

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2019 WR Prospect Deep Dive & NC States Finley & Bradbury join the show!

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks in for DJ today. Read Louis PB, you Bucky Brooks rocking and rolling in the studio DJ, you know, there's a lot of in for there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff still who said we have to start scrubbing his name office thing a lot of something. He's kind of like to sponsor, Mr. big time. You know? Geez. It's like the godfather, you know, he's like let you guys take everything. Just come here for the big moment. Got it all set up. You know, I mentioned I think last time I was in. I don't remember what was last week at, you know, the national shortage of Chick-fil-A based on DJ being on the road this long, but I was wrong. Apparently now that he has been in North Carolina was very into the Cracker Barrel circuit. Steal Cracker Barrel. Tweeted at us. We could use it a little little sponsorship deal ship. I'm sure they have life can lifetime gift cards or something like that. I could lifetime gift card. I need to get. Let's go. Let's go all the way pig if we're going to ask to a big ass small shoot for the stars here. Okay. So. Yeah. Deejays trembling back from visiting North Carolina, Duke and NC urges Duke and NC state. Right. And then of course, he decided not to go about didn't go see Chapel Hill. Yeah. Basketball school. Now. That's for sure. It's in it. Yeah. So let's talk Duke pro day. I because Dana Jones had a a really good workout. I thought it was right up there with the best. We've seen throwing session wise, not a lot of balls hit the ground absorbs actually feel like one of the only pro- days that we weren't a part of buck. The other obligations left out of that one. Yeah. But but look he I think he showed off, you know, they wanted an aggressive script. I think we saw that you got to see a little bit of his movement on his accuracy. And then kind of you know, maybe putting some of the arm strength questions to rest a little bit with how he drove the ball. Yeah. Thought he had a solid workout. I think the bigger thing is beyond the workout. With these workouts? I think it's very important that whoever scripting it is doing it trying to create a vision for the people that are watching trying to create something for oh this could be used. And I think with Daniel Jones, David cut cliff and staff at Duke did a really good job of creating dead vision of. Yeah. Okay. This is how we could play with him. We saw some movement stuff. We saw a lot of play action stuff. We saw him kind of finesse double layered in and even though their questions about maybe his arm strength and Kenny drive it. I think he did a good job of staying true to who. He is Ambien very very confident. Like this is how we're gonna play the game. So if I come to your team, if you we you play me like this. I can be a star player. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. And so I think he is a guy that man you get the right team around him. You do some things they kind of fitness wheelhouse. I think he can be a very successful. Yeah. Starting. Quarterback. I don't think there's nothing wrong with eight. If you were watching our coverage of the Duke pro day on NFL network. You saw a blue shirt believe gray hat. It was his quarterback coaches. Well, David Morris country. You've heard I think I talked to him here in an interview that we've played your own move the sticks down at the senior bowl. He's known Daniel for a long time was, you know, played a part in in actually getting him to Duke, and and his whole kind of background in story there. And you know, he said he wanted the aggressive script he wanted to show Daniel and command, which I thought was kind of interesting, you know, also kind of play down one of the story lines. That's out there that he's kind of a subdued guy. Maybe not, you know, the leader you would want from a quarterback. I think I think we can put all that stuff to rest here. I if you watched you saw him in command, he was directing traffic, you know, he was out there. You know, making sure right knew what they would they had to do and wanted to do. And and so like, I thought it was a thought it was a successful pro day for Daniel Jones down the road. NC state. We had just yesterday DJ. Was there a guy who's going to be our recurring guest on path to the draft? Every Monday six PM eastern right here on NFL network. You will hear from Ryan Finley buckle your number five quarterback. Really interesting guy started his career Boise state transferred. And and then ended up being a really successful and productive guidance. He stayed very productive player. I think the thing about Ryan Finley that is very very apparent very experience has a high football. Like you really understands the game in part due to his experience. He has a ton of experience playing a game at two different universities had a lot of success in NC state. Even though he was around the people, I think he kind of figured out how to play the game and a lot of people will here game manager and kind of view it as a bad word. I think Ryan Finley is a terrific gay manager. And I think he is going to be successful because he understands how to manage the game and in manage. The game. It is understanding went to make the right wrist and it call it risk assessment. Yeah. Okay. Here's where we are in the game. This is time at score. We're up are probably don't need to be aggressive with these throws. I can dump it down and let my playmakers work. Oh, we're down in need to be a little more aggressive affil- like with him. Ryan Finley understands how the play that game. And I think for so many quarterback they only can play one way I think he can ramp it up when he needs to in terms of his aggressiveness. But I think he understands how to play winning football. And for me. I would rather have a quarterback that understands how to play as your how to play complementary ball on offense to complement with the defense is doing and the like, and I think he is solid with that. And so he may not be a first round pick. But I could see somewhere in the second round a team that is looking for a down to last daughter would be very intrigued by what he brings. Yeah. No question. And look the battery mates. I if you will at NC state pretty darned good, Ryan Finley and then his center. Garrett bradberry. I mean barn non best center in the class. Right. Easy. Easy. Easy evaluation. Is he is he along the lines of some of the top centers? We've seen in previous classes, Billy price. Pat, L fine. Boy, you know, you go back Cody white hair was up there a couple of. Well, I think he's better than the first two guys asked him in like f- line and Billy price. I think he's a better player than those guys. I think he kind of falls into Cody why here to me? It was like a really good player. I thought hear was awesome. Yeah. Case state. I think he's in that that realm in that conversation. He's better player in Chicago to the thing about bradberry. What was so impressive? When you wash them into senior bowl leadership ability stood out his ability to come to dominate high level. Opponents stood out the fact that he has made a concerted effort to last two years. We started really trying to focus on practicing. Like, a pro I think it shows up in his play to me. He's a guy from day one. He's going to be able to understand all the responsibility to come along with playing the center. A position he's going to be able to take command of not only hold update unit and get those guys going and so for communication position. I think he's an ideal traffic up one that can get anyone lined up and going the right direction. I'd say solid looking guy too. I mean, that's not he's not a slob done that his he looks likely gifted dude winner. Yeah. He looks like a new school Senate. He's very in shape. He s strength. He's not one of those guys that is kind of making up for a lack of physical talent because he's super smart and he understands how to play positional ball. Now. He's a legitimate block at the point of attack. He can move people off to ball, but he still has a high IQ and has to communication skills that you look for. He looks like Mark step NAS key. If Stepnoski was three hundred pounds. Right. I mean, he was like to sixty I feel like, but bradberry is a lean mean center prospect here and going to be fun to watch him compete on Sundays. Okay. Getting back to Daniel Jones. We got the Mt. S three sixty series. Backed Wayne Haskins is already out you can check that out. But Daniel Jones will premiere on the three sixty series, Tuesday, April ninth. So that is on the way sure to check that out. Find out more about his path to getting Duke from Charlotte, Latin and all the guys and all the people who helped make his path to the draft possible. So looking forward to that one coming out here shortly also have some interviews as DJ was on the ground for NC states pro day there with quarterback Ryan Finley in the center gear bradberry. Let's get you those. I Ryan finish up your pro day here at NC state. How do you feel? It went really, well, I still going here got some guys working out. But it's gone. Really? Well, so far what were you trying to what the message you're looking to get out today with your performance? I think we just wanted to have a, you know, Chris Chris run through and just complete a lot of balls and kind of me personally show like it could zip it a little bit and throw it in there. So one of the things when I when I study on tape that jumps out is the anticipation that she possessed you get an environment. Like this with your guys it just little you were very comfortable getting the ball at your hand up. Nice and early. Yeah. I mean me step to cope and cover. We've been doing this for a long time. So it was fun to have us for back together for probably one of the last times. I'm sure in offseason, we'll get back together. But it was fun to just kind of one more time, you know, kind of in a game like atmosphere go out there and thought around so I was fun on. I'm not gonna ask you. What team you wanna go to nobody ever answers that question I wanted. But how about some players? You're looking forty the play in with or with playing against you. Give me any position. Just somebody. You thought about? About growing up saying I'm going to be on an NFL filled with this player. You gotta you have to give me a name. I'm not I'm not going to give you a name his. Here's what I'll I will give you. I think at this point, you know, with me having three years of whizzy stay in three years NC state. I know so many guys in the league. And I think it's fun to think about like the odds that I'll end up with one of those guys, you know, what I mean, one of the guys that's been here in the last four years one of the one of the guys that was at Boise state, or, you know, just somewhere along that lineage where there's so many teams where I feel like I'll I'll be able to reconnect with a guy. So I think that's what I'm looking forward to that was a very clever way of getting around that by the way, half of Voisey states rosters. Now, a Dallas cowboy. So I'm just gonna -ssume that you just said you're looking for either playing with their against the Dallas Cowboys. That's what I'm going to go where for show Dallas Cowboys. Do you have a lot of Boise guess? Yep. Tank, and and there's a bunch right? Great job. Today's great to see if good luck to the process. All right Garrett. Just give me your thoughts. Here. Pro day has come to a close at this is basically the close of your college football career on the grass. Yeah. Yeah. So it's good to get back in the indoor one last time workout my guys will last time chair, my teammates on it was good get close to it. So I look the try to get you guys through a nice little pace. They're kept a brisk pace, go onto the workout. How did it feel good? I mean, it's just they wanna see a little bit conditioning little bit offense of line skill skill works. So he's got shown what you've been doing the past few months pass five years. Really just a good accumulation of all the work you put in so fun is it to just be out here with your guys though, you know, you get a quarterback out here. And Ryan Finley a whole bunch of wide receivers this offense. It a lot of pieces are gonna have to replace it NC state. Yeah. Absolutely. Like, I said, it's it was awesome to get some work in one last time a big tea and her Jones to my roommate's offense of line. Guys have been with for for five years, Ryan, Finley and other roommate of mine good to see him do his thing out here. All the receivers. I mean, it's awesome. You just you love to see guys. Hard work pay off you live to see success with them right now. Because you've seen the hours they put in the off season with strength and conditioning staff. Just from the moment they got here. So most important question. I have for you is can I get a membership to the book club that that you guys? Have you gonna have to ask Ryan? That's all Ryan saying I'm in and I'm all about it and is good. We definitely picked up rain a lot in the past year just for a number of reasons. But that's right. You have to ask him about the membership thing. What's the name? What's the name for those that don't know the name of of the club? It was called extraordinary gentlemen. Ryan AJ coal kind of head hunted that thing, and it was awesome. It's just a good group of guys that we get together and hang out and review books and stuff like that. So I'm excited. I'm gonna force my way into this reading club. And I would try and get some of my colleagues at the network namely Lewis to join the club. But we're not sure he knows how to read care. So that's don't know if that's going to happen. There you go. I mean, I can read. Shoes they say Adidas. J jeez. I know this guy who has not who has not made it into the studio yet for path of the draft. I don't feel like he isn't gonna podcast in a year. I mean, isn't this like this is draft season? This is when this podcast was originated. Right. The people want to hear from him. He's awol. So maybe we're going to back nature. We'll see we'll be fine without. It's all good. Interesting thing, I think interesting discussion DJ ahead to opportunity get with those doing their pro day. I think a couple of days that are notable Mississippi State head their pro day this week and in talking to people that attended there were a little surprised at Montesquieu at worked out. But in talking to people around Swiss camp, they wanted to show that he not only could be the edged Russia that people have seen on in terms of being able to come after the quarterback, but they wanted to show three or four teams that he could drop and move around and potentially plan space. And so even though you would like to think that he had checked off all the boxes throughout the process. He wanted to kind of put the cherry on the Sunday by going out. She won't people that he had good movement skills off the edge. And by all accounts, here's pretty solid. We also Jonathan Abrams at their workout look number one safety. No more safeties downhill player. He's a guy to kind of reminds me of writing Harrison in terms of he brings degree in the toughness. He's going to be a God is fantastic around the box. He's been enforcer kind of first rounder. I think he's a first rounder. I think he's a firm. I think he gets into the first round. I think his ability to kind of be the enforcer against a run. And also against a pass is gonna make him be a guy that's in the conversation. The first round pick is Jeffrey Simmons too good of a player when healthy. And you know, are are you also comfortable enough with the off the field stuff to make him a first round pick. I think he's gonna be a border on borderline first round pick. Yeah. Meaning teams are going to have to think long and hard about do we make this big in the first round or do we wait? And can we get him in the second round is going to be open for business at the top of the second round. Because teams are gonna target him to give this significant savings for first round a second round. You get him at a value. Some people may look for that. But because everyone knows it he is devalue pick. I can see the bottom of the first round his name being called anywhere from twenty eight to thirty two. Sure. And I think that's interesting in the second round. I think that's a place where a lot of teams, you know, they will take a little bit of a risk. Ask on a guy with high in talent. Oh, for sure definitely want to get. We saw Linda Collins goad, the beginning of the second round, we saw miles Jack. We saw you know because he had the knee injury question. Then of course, Jalen Smith both second round picks years ago. You know, the patriots took rob gronkowski in the second round after he didn't even play his final year in college. You know, that those are some of those some of those spots where we typically see it. And I bet if he's not off the board by thirty two the cardinals are people are knocking down their doors at thirty three. So and that's the conversation because the conversation you have to have internally how much do I really want Simmons? If I really want him. I may have to jump up in the first round and make sure that I get together I want if not can I wait until the next day. Right. And hope does he still on the board? Esa tough one. I think he's super talented player. No injury. You don't want to talk to him player. Absolutely. And then at Florida Jakob ply Chauncey Gardner Johnson, a guy, I know you like, and then you tailor your top tackle. He's still you're taught Dak he's doing what? On tackle. Like there's nothing that he could do to hurt himself. He's talented. He is excellent balancing body control. Plays nasty moves people off the ball. He's terrific into the in. This day was big for Jakab polite and not even for what you need to do on the field. But could he represent himself better when he had an opportunity to sit down with scouts coaches and the like because he really hurt himself in a lot of it was due to how he interviewed at the combine their questions about his ability answers the question how confrontational he may have gotten. So you think about that? And he's he comes off as angry would do you wanna bring that kind of guaranteed you locker room? And so it was very important for him to communicate will communicate even better with the house in the coaches and show a willingness to come to buy into whatever people are selling. He does that he can come to help them. So, but he really hurt himself at the combine. That's interesting perspective, their anger, you know, is a question, but focused anger. We can deal with it. We liked that. All right. So look that's a look at some of the pro days we saw this week. Let's get into the main event here we're talking wide receiver. It's the main. This is the main event. All right. I've got a couple of categories here in a couple of guys let's start with. I who's probably the number one receiver in this class right now, he is the Greek God of receivers I've mentioned that before he eats up grass more and better than any receiver. I've seen in person in the last decade, and he is the top deep threat in this class. Am I wrong in Saint decay met these deep threat because he's big fasten physical you run a four three you run into four threes at us. You can wake up a lot of us. Then you go to the production. And you talk about a guy that is not as much there. But when he did catch it. They was going along his yours for kitchen average is robust you talking about. Twenty or twenty like this desk to kind of production that flips to feel the biggest thing for decay Metcalf. The player he is a vertical straight line speed everything. He does doesn't require a lot of route running. He just out runs people from a team perspective. You have to understand this is who he is. This is who he's going to continue to be. So don't ask him to be a traditional number one receiving because it won't work out. He is a talented take the top off to coverage playmaker. And you need to have another guy that can do the other stuff. He is a worker to. I mean, it's you know, I talked to a couple of people about him and his dad runs the show. Terrence Metcalf was offense Wyman league for for a long time. Also ole miss guy, and you know, I think he understands what it takes to be a pro. And I think that that's also something that's important in this category. Here talking about de que excited to watch him. And he's he's so much fun. I I remember just watching that. I believe it was the Texas Tech game. He was just flying up and down the field. You know? All right. So here's an interesting one for you. Because it'll take us a little bit further down the wide receiver list. If there's if you have one ball to throw in the red zone. You absolutely have to have it to win. Who and guy are you throwing out there to go up and get that ball to win. You to score you touchdown in that game. This is because there's so many post a player are some of those guys yet in this draft class Philip instead learn to kill Jerry. But but but but I'm going with JJ. Yes. Do it. Okay. Go away. So yes. And I think the thing about J J is the basketball background, obviously comes from a basketball, pedigree, mom and dad both were Hooper's both have distinguished careers. Both are known for being that he was a guy at South Carolina had done it. But when you wash them we'll tape got put together a season where he had fourteen touchdowns. And when you look at all the detached house feel like eleven of them where identical he entity be don't get it a corner. Quarterback. Oh, he's covered. But I'm at the word to him anyway. And he comes down with it his strength at the point of the kit is terrific. He fends off defenders and some people just understand it. I think he has a clean understanding of how to post defenders up put them on the back and make place makes them a dangerous weapon in your hall, man. And you know, you mentioned the basketball background his uncle's run. The Spanish national team the eighty eighty four Olympics. I mean, he he brings hoops to the field particularly in the end zone. Twenty eight total touchdowns for his career at Stanford. All state high school basketball. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Fun. Gotta watch down there in a red zone for. Sure. All right. Let's get to the slots here 'cause you can kind of make the argument there's two categories now for slots, right? There's the traditional slot. Maybe the Welker type. And then there's the big slot. Talked about those guys a little bit Cooper cups kind of in that conversation. Let's talk traditional slots to me describes DeVos Samuel. Oh it absolutely screams. He's built for it. He is a guy that basically when he has the ball in his hand. He runs around like running back yet. The speed the stop start quickness. The acceleration in bursts. He has all those things that would make him a terror in the slot. Yeah. And so. He booth. You know, you just trying to get him to let him work because he is also very tough to bring these mazes hand test player playmaker. I'll not love it. I mean, I think he'd be a great value slips up, you know, in a second round somewhere for for a team because he, you know, he's a guy catch the ball and win with it afterwards for sure any any other guys that fit that Bill for you, particularly. I mean, look, I think we talked about India's bell a lot. But he I mean, more the deep speed, right? This isn't what a speed is more the fascination with deep on this early dead. He's an amendola. Yeah. Walker type you just don't see guys that run fast vertically. Can I get out there over gentle situation? So it is interesting to see the buzz tied to him because he didn't WI wit at senior bowl. But in games hands a little bit of a question there as well. Right. You begin? So kinda take over. How about the big slots AJ Braun is got it stands. Out to me. But that's a big all of these big receivers. They we're talking about and cure, Harry AJ Brown. Someone else to jumps inside those two in particular. I think that could be terrific in the slut. Yeah. I was trying to figure out who else would. I'd like to see in the slot. Oh, our down. Did I would like to sleep? I would like to see Hakeem Butler work from the slot. He only works on the outside pretty much. I will say, but I would love to see him in the side just because of the size the length. He gives you basically a glorified tied in but with wide receiver attributes and so Perez. We could put in that gap. Paris campbell. This post up. Purse Campbell, certainly can jump and it's li-. He did it last season. But he's not a and he's more of what I call a playmaker. Get him the ball and let him go. And that's the we talked about this a little bit yesterday on path. I thought Curtis Conway mentioned it would kind of interesting off camera was like this. He's Alvin Kamara a little bit. You know, he doesn't have the high yards per reception like a decay Metcalf. Even though they have similar speed. He's more down at eleven. That's because you're getting him the ball closer to the line of scrimmage and let him go yet. Abobo screen is the nail rouse things that can let him touch it right away. Those that are things that you lean because you want him to showcase his exceptional running skills to create first downs and more. All right. I got another category for you. I like it big game player. Biggest plays in the biggest spots who rings that bell to meet Markey's rings, Bill Hollywood Hollywood Hollywood. I think is a big game plan. I know people will look at the last game that he played them when they lost. He was beat up a. Think without like the the hiccup without the injury. Yeah. I don't think that's the problem. I think his speed his explosiveness his Rodman ability very very similar to to Sean Jackson. He's just a dynamic player that you have to get the ball into his hands. And you want to get it to his hands. Give them a chance later in the game. When it's all on the line. Couple of guys I really loved as well. And I'm not sure what category they fit in right now. But they're there to my favorite guys. They're a little bit further down. We saw him at the senior bowl Keelan dos. UC Davis pop pop does peck. Yeah. What are we doing? I know we can't do that. Right. But he was a he was a fun guy to watch a mobile. Same thing for me with Alex Wesley northern Colorado. I thought he's really sudden at the top of his routes maybe a little bit stiff, but I mean thousand yard receiver back to back years in the Big Sky northern Colorado. And how about the the phone? Four hundred meter champ. Three times in the Big Sky. You're not going to run him out of gas. I mean, definitely definitely be tough to deal. So it's funny. You mentioned those guys. Yeah. There's it got it. I'm keeping my on Jalen hurt from having listed as well reason. I've keep my own him is because this guy was a very accomplished running back. There are people that fill like at some point. He was going to be a first round pick top running back. It's coming out. Yeah. He Desai's to remake himself. Yeah. Two years. He comes back. Does a great job putting up numbers? Yeah. Production. I can see a world where someone is like wait a minute you play tiny. And oh, it just brings about a new set of problems. They create with a gala debt on the few. Yeah. Tennessee to Baylor for heard. I mean that was a really interesting story about him on NFL dot com on the back to campus series. So check that out. I think a guy we both love Terry MacLaurin out of Ohio State. The blue-collar player got come in and contribute special team. But also as a candidate to be third or fourth wide receiver liked him. Love the speed loved feted. He's going to be a player somewhere somehow for for a team. No question. All right. I didn't get my big game player in the hundred fro look I mean, the biggest spots east is going to be there for you. I don't know where he's going to end up. But I feel like he's gonna stick around. All right. Here's one that's a little bit off the radar. And then I think we'll we'll finish it up on this one. But on this little category, maybe a sleeper receiver if you got one Bucky how about Damian sham peer nickel state, Lucas huge. My I mean, he's he's right. My backyard at archbishop Brummel high school and went to went to Nicholls state played for the colonels. He's a five ten one seventy guy, you know, had had some good production. They're they're not a a huge passing team. But how about the student is six five six on the three cone six five six hundred thirty cone thirty nine inch Vert? He was at the NFL PA collegiate bowl as well. I think he's a, you know, maybe a day three guy that could be kind of an interesting really really kind of explosive playmaker for team they go. There's one there's the good one. I got one for you. I'm gonna go out to Oregon. How about Dylan Mitchell from Oregon when I look at Dylan Mitchell on tape and having known him for a long time. But a like about him. He's a fantastic. Underrated playmaker. Got us terrific with the ball in his hands very competitive. And I think what you had a chance to see this us. He absolutely has the tools to be a guy that can be a number one receiver. I like the aggressiveness towards the ball at we runs row. So like the way that he takes short passes and tournament too big gains. And even though the Oregon offense is still a little quirky when it comes to the route running ability. Yeah, I just think he's going to be a gas at trying to China's he's kind of flown on find another radar a little bit. You know? And and look, I mean, we see. Plenty of an I don't know if he fits the priority free agent Bill but six seventh round something like that. I mean, we've seen plenty of guys make a contribution to their teams from that bet spot. So that's a little look deep dive on the receiver class in this year's draft. And that is going to do it for this edition of the move the sticks podcast now with Rhett Lewis in Bucky Brooks, check out all of our content and fell dot com slash GS video YouTube dot com slash NFL, apple podcasts wherever you get your podcast check and south. Download subscribe see next.

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Alabama, Ohio St & Missouri Pro Day Recap

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

35:48 min | 2 years ago

Alabama, Ohio St & Missouri Pro Day Recap

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks all busy week on the pro day, circuit is we welcome you to the latest edition of the move the sticks podcast Bucky Brooks in the house. I am the ghost Arete Louis the real rent Lewis died. In fact, waiting for drew lock to throw your. You're going to know for sure. What we experienced today with unlike anything I've ever experienced when it comes to a pro day we were in full hurry up. And wait all my goodness. I mean, people out there fans of the show that we're watching the pro day special today policies I t's to you that we were gonna have drew locks pro day coming up for two hours. I mean, really to plus he came on at about was one twenty five eastern time. I mean, you did a great job of and. Yeah, thanks, thanks. I do that all for you. A Java teasing. He's about to throw is going to throw trust me. He did. In fact there. We'll get to his pro day here in just a moment. In fact, that's why I am in fact in for Daniel, Jeremiah he has been out on the road. He is I assuming somewhere in between Columbia, Missouri and back here in LA. The biggest question though, is how much Chick-fil-A he's actually out of the road. It's it could get ugly. I mean because he'd likes to go real real simple, five minutes in and out throw that thing away. And then let's move on get back into the taste. That's that's what he's doing. Love deejay. Did a great job forced out on the road. And let's start with Dwayne Haskins is pro day we had that for your Wednesday right here in NFL network. Look, this was probably my favorite pro day that we've done thus far this season. It was it was a really impressive workout for Dwayne Haskins for a lot of different reasons. Hit some of those force right now, you know. You know, the has has always been a very impressive prospect like even though he's a one year star. But when you wash them on tape what he was able to do in the big ten fifty touchdowns eight hundred sections. So you knew he was really talented. But then when you watched him throw at the workout I think he came firmed all those things classic dropback passer agai with exceptional arm talent can make every throw and really make it very effortlessly. And then he what he tried to do with answer some of the questions about the subtle movement. Scans was interesting and the pocket disorder movements being able to stay within the pocket and doing those things and what I've said it would continue to say is he is traditional drawback pass it at has been a dominant player in our league for the last thirty years. His ability to make throws from the pocket is exactly what every office coordinator has always wanted. And I think when you look at him and how he plays the questions that you have is Kenny survive is going to be a sitting duck. And Secondly, how does that experience a lack of experience translate? Into performance early in his career. And I think at the pro day, I come away a little more convinced that he will be able to success right away. Because not only the talent. But I feel like he's a very mature charismatic leader who just kind of connects with his teammates. And then when you talk to people about how he's interviewed and what he's been able to display when it comes to work into board, many smart as it where he's April key when it comes to his I q I just think he is destined for stardom in the league. And I think the pro day workout gave you a glimpse at what he could be the next level twenty eight Ohio State record seven big ten records, including those fifty touchdown passes which breaks drew breezes. Big ten Mark out what she said back at Purdue look impressive all in one season. It's a with that comes a little extra scrutiny. Right. Would he have been able to stack that on top of one another and keep going in the other thing that you bring up with a guy with limited experiences? The leadership. How does he respond to the guys? And I thought Ryan day kinda helped. Answer that for us when he sat down with DJ after the Haskins workout in. So that he saw dean's leadership evolve. After he got more games under his belt. And the one thing that I'll say about him in just observing him in interviews going all the way back to the Super Bowl. And then seeing him talk to our guys they're after the workout comfortable in the spotlight and buck that is something that would play. Well, if in fact, the giants were sitting there number six who had pet Shurmur intendant -tendance if they decide to turn in the card with Haskins name on it because I think you have to be very comfortable with the personnel. Especially if you're the giants coming on the hills of whatever their reasons for getting rid of ODA Beckham junior. Yeah. The guy who's going to be the launch. Phase of the franchise has to be someone to kind of falls in line with maybe a little more conservative slant that the giants won't to take when it comes to being kind of the Bill of the ball and so- Dwayne Haskins. Believe cannot only him the spotlight. But I think he understands how to come. Do it when he needs to. So that he can maintain his focus on being the best football player. The best team leader that needs to be and not necessarily the Broadway star that everyone is kinda celebrating and doing those things in terms of the endorsements and the Alta feels stuff that he's a football focus guy. And that he's going to be the best player. Did he can be because go put the work in? Yeah. No question. And you know, he said, he's okay. If he is stranded by the giants was a giants fan growing up in New Jersey, okay? Sitting behind ally. Manning the giants have made quite clear is there guy right now for twenty nine this it I think Dwayne and thinking about the giants David get them and said something a few weeks ago. He talked about the Kim city model work, the will for Mahomes and a think what is I don't know if get them in his boxed into anything right now this point at number six, I think he could be swayed and convinced a maybe I do need to take a quarterback is options. Maybe or maybe you know, what I feel like the pass. Versus are going to give us more bang for the buck say what you want to about them not taking a quarterback last year saquon, the they hit on saquon Barkley was everything that we thought it would be. And so if they get another blue clear that bacon and maybe come back later and get the quarterback. How can you knock the plan? And so he just has to make a decision is to Wayne Haskins worthy of being a number six pig based on his personality and his game not likely Nick Bosa there at number six when the giants hit the clock certainly expecting him to be gone in the top five did not get to see him at the pro day, but lucky answered all the questions at the combine rate, and even though we only saw him in three games in his final year at Ohio State. You have any any issue with him passing on? No, no. Because that's why you should work at a common. You work at a comment because every every coach every scout in the league there in attendance. And so if you knock out your work at the combine, if you kinda check all the marks there's really no need for you to participate in pro day, and because we have seen I won't say a rash of injuries because we've seen a number of injuries pops of high profile gas. There's no need for him to put himself at risk. He shown everybody everything that he could display right now is just about him getting ready to get for get ready for training camp. And here's going on draft night. There's nothing else that he's gonna show it approach this ultimately gonna change his drafts. Still there talking with coaches and general managers in fact had dinner with the forty Niners contingent, including GM John Lynch night before the pro day, forty Niners owners of the number two overall pick and we've got the three sixty series coming back this year Bucky to buckeyes in fact. Leading off the three sixty series this year, we'll have doing Haskins three sixty Tuesday, March twenty sixth. And then we'll hear the story the full story on Bosa Tuesday, April second how about we get back in time a little bit Tuesday had thrown my analyst hat on for this one on NFL network. Do it had to do it as we gotta look at the Alabama. Pro no quarterback this year throwing that because early next year. Maybe we'll get to that. We'll get to that. But. Before we break down, the crimson tide prospects DJ there and Tuscaloosa was Kim Jones for NFL network on Tuesday, and they caught up with head coach Nick Sabin and projected first-round pick defensive tackle Quinton Williams. Along with Kim Jones pleased to be joined by the man who runs this place coach Nick Sabin coach. Thank you so much for taking some time for today. Good to be here. What's the feeling like on daylight today? It's almost feels like another graduation for these players. Well, I've certainly appreciate what all these guys have done to help us be successful. They've done a great job for us here. And we know it's a lot of them stream to have an opportunity to play to next level. So we'd like to help them every way that we can. So they get the best opportunity to have chance to play at the next level. And it's good to see, you know, all the people from the NFL here who are showing interest in these players, which is a good start form. Quinten Williams is a little bit of phenomenon to those of us who weren't around him for his whole career a one year guy. But what did you see from him? That led you to believe he could be this player. Well, we like wouldn't come out of high school. You know, he wasn't quite as big as a lot of the other guys that would be the so-called five star guy or whatever. And maybe that's why he didn't get recruited quite as highly as some others, but we thought because of his quickness in his athleticism. He could develop this kind of size and strength that he needed to be a very dominant player and actually played well for us prior to this year went sort of under the radar because he didn't play all that much. But we always thought he could be a really really good player, and he certainly didn't disappoint this year and had a fabulous year. Coach on the scouting side of things. I'm always intrigued by what you see going to the recruiting process, and you can look to some five star guys out on this field. But you mentioned Quinton and Josh Jacobs's another one that you guys found that wasn't recruited by everybody in the nation. If you're looking for those core values that you're looking for in a player. What are they? Well, we sort of define for every position. You know, what we're looking for from a critical factor standpoint. But character ability to communicate intelligence size and speed, and you know, sometimes guys meet our criteria. And they really I mean, we kind of go about it like the draft. Yeah. So it doesn't matter really how many stars they get or what everybody else thinks of them. This is recruiting an inexact science NFL draft is a bit of an exact science. So we've been fortunate to be able to see some guys and find some guys that turned out to be really good players that maybe got overlooked when you look at Clinton and Jona Williams and practices. How did they make each other better? Well, I think that's the number one thing if you talked to our players plan the league that they would tell you that the fact that our players get challenged every day by the guy they practice against, you know, Jonathan I don't know say my factor. Camera. It's every day for three years and Marlon Humphrey say I had cover art Cooper every day for three years. And because they were challenged in practice that really helped them improve as players, and I think those two guys would probably say very much the same coach getting a lot of the talent that these guys present. But from from a leadership standpoint, but was going to be difficult for you to replace in this group of guys we have out here right now. Well, I mean, there's quite a few guys in this group that would be hard to single out. Somebody who didn't set a good example who wasn't someone who the other players could emulate that you couldn't just point to say to like that guy doesn't it would almost be unfair to a lot of these guys to single one guy out because this was a a really special group Nick when it comes to Josh Jacobs. What would you tell the NFL about his work ethic and his versatility in particular? Well, they're not gonna find anybody. That's going to work any harder to try to be the best. Player that he can be. And we're talking about a guy that's blue collar. Now. He'll run the ball. He'll catch passes he'll play receiver. He'll run speed sweeps. Then he'll turn around and run down on a kick off and never never never take himself out of a special team. I mean, he was on three core special teams for us. And if we were head fifty six nothing he never asked to come out. So he's that kind of competitive character type of guy he's going to do the best. He can for his team. But from running back standpoint, you know, the guy can carried inside he can carry it outside. He's very quick. He's got power. He can run behind his pads, and he's an extremely good receiver, and he's very difficult to cover as third down back. So this guy's pretty complete. I'm a big fan of judge as well. He brings to the table coach. We saw you with with coach Bela. Check you guys go back forever chance to visit with an old friend like that. We were just curious talking with somebody's what was that conversation? It was going on that. There was a lot of conversation. We're old friends. So we have lots of stories to tell and you know, things that we both. Learned from that. We messed up in the past even when we were together, and we talked personally about our families. We talk about I was really close with his dad, and you know, we talk Balsam, and obviously it's important to. Get a good evaluation on players. So we talk about a lot of players as well. Sit on that conversation. The best coach in the history of college football talking to the best coach in the history of the NFL coach, thanks so much for your time. We thank you get a chance with Kim. To to welcome Quinn into the set quitting. Nice easy for you today. What went into the today to to stand on what you did the combine on just on I finger on I missed my finger doing the season had missed them legal in it. And so I didn't wanna just got it fixed at right out of the combined just want to injure anymore and things like that. By getting my stains too much and putting a lot of pressure on hitting things and different things. Like this trying to get rid of OTA's rookie minicamp and things like that after the draft. So I feel I did a lot of things impressive things at the combine and solidified myself in my position on the thing that I did on the field and bagged up my performance at the combine with my performance on the field. So. Let's be honest. You were outstanding. Combine you don't need to add to that. When you look at this draft. It's a great draft for the defense for the D line. Do you think you're the best player in this draft a lot of guys and his group? Like, crystal Wilkerson on this Lawrence all of a lot of guys who got great performance. But I feel like I have a lot of stuff on better. Those guys lot of attribute as good better than those guys accu- level. I no guys I feel like I wanted to base diva tackling his group I thought the most dominating player on tape that I watched this entire site each and every game you brought it. Now the question that's gonna come up is town here Alabama. This was the year where you took off. What's your answer to teams when they ask you about your previous years and a lack of production had the bag on guys who was better guys. Who's in the NFL I around guys, and I had to play my part playing here, the bam. You got a lot of great guys. You got a lot of NFL potential guys. A lot of guys who are great. Would they do? And you gotta play a role and win show opportunity. Come up with your decision to make the best opportunities. So this year, I knew Durant pain was leaving. And I knew the both DA's was coming back. So and I'll play at the time I wanted to get on the field. So I made that transition to gain the weight. Almost forty four five pounds. I went from two seventy two like three three hundred and something south light inet range. But gain the weight in play learned position on learn how to do different needs like dove attains sit in learn different things in inside and made the best of my opportunity. So how did you gain that amount of weight and keep your explosiveness and quickness coach Cochran, Amy man, like nutritious? I am bread right after I got talking about making that decision. I had went to coach Cockman first because he he wanted to play their way he knowing good player, and he cmih develops that came in. And I told him I but this season that wanted to tackle a nose guard. And he was like we can do it. Like, you gotta be disciplined, you gotta work at and all you. And then I'm gonna do it like this. We're going to play this year. So then I taught him is Amy 'cause you can't gain for the pounds of muscle. I had to say. Eat right Mace. I do a lot of things in my diet wise. So I can gain good fats and get on stay explosive things like that. Now, we have a bunch of general managers here teams chance reported that you met with with the giants. You have any other meeting set up a lotta times, they surround these pro days teams. Yeah. Me with a few things here today. You know? You know? Everybody's gonna find. But I really don't I really don't know exactly with teams right now. But I I will find out after the proceeds itself, but I know I'm gonna meet with a few teams. And I happen to me with him. I mean, I love talking about football little talking about life, and I'm really excited to start my during off in NFL, man. So like see here today, and I just got too excited. 'cause I'm like man, I play I got. So as I got see their team man he wanted to play on my other teams to see I'm playing I'm going fall. The science shoes leaving Alabama in address from Alabama and may potentially go play with him. So it's so cool like this whole process and I'm joined every bit. But I know I got a bigger picture here with Brickman camping in drafting this star my journal NFL. So before you joined us, we had a touching piece by. An interview with you. That was so well done and our colleague chase. Good bread. Also did a fantastic piece. A lot of it centered on your losing your mother when you were twelve what kind of impact has that left on your life. Not bad not in the negative way in the pas away. I know my mom taught me a lot of stuff not a fundamental stuff. A lot of these. I respect discipline on effort to do that. She was an educator so school came first. And then never left me. She left me where I use everyday everyday everyday life me being a celebrity of me being NFL prospect. I'm still going to school to get my degree because it is EMMY lie Emeka, my whole family educators things like that. And looking at like, people might think oh man, you want you to go make me I mean like that it really don't matter to me. I want to be the best person. I could be on a feeling all the feeling be the best person for my family. And this as good as them for the kids back in Birmingham who who had his who like people who had this process. It could have been his by. But then had nobody to lead them in the right way. Oh, yeah. For sure for sure. Yes. I for sure believe she leave me. Now. Like, there's everything everything she do everything. I do I think about women don't think about if I do these like even in even in like off the field and the Dr like what I need to do. You know, what I'm saying to be best person? I can be. She's proud for. Sure. No option. I see it in my grandma my grandma my grandma like educator. I so when she found out leaving school early. She took it hard because he know the process and stuff like that about leaving school early, and I'm gonna degree. But I was like man like this Curry's get a chance to go to the NFL. Well, I'm gonna let you go be with your teammates and watch the workout today last thing before we let you leave miss Amy helped you put on forty could you help me take off five shoe Prosser. I don't see we got a we had a player nine Brown a little weight problem. She man she own your like on you. This is on your way out the door is what probably I tried to allay. So I had a lot of different healthy things. So it'd be lamb Charles. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. It's interesting insight getting for both saving. I love Quentin Williams. I just like I wanna be a hug, you know, like this. He smiles his easy happy, dude. And I love there was a great back to campus series on an fell dot com where chase good bread wrote a really good piece on Quentin Williams talking about dealing with the wall of his mother to cancer when he was twelve years old and his brother Quincy's older brother talked about how you know. He's a guy in Quinton who will hold the door open for lady, Kip carrier bag groceries. If you've got a heavy box. He'll help you move it. And he gets all that from his mom. That's just the way he is. And then though, he flips the switch, and he becomes the monster that we saw this year. And ultimately, he's the right kind of player that every team wants. Meaning you want the gentleman that is perfect away from the field. But when he steps in between the lines he flips to switch, and he becomes a. Nasty disruptive player gathered is a force on the field. That is what Quinton Williams is. He is a nice fun loving guy. Like everything about him. He sounds like he's countries corn. He's a lovable big old teddy bear. But then there's something about when he was on daleks uniform, and he straps it up. He's a different guy. He is a temple center difference maker. He's a dominant player. And in fact, I think you can make the case that maybe he's the best player in the draft based on how he his dominated the game his final season. But I think the big thing that we have to look at when it comes to him when you picking that high up how what kind of impact will make overall in the passing game took about more so Doria sa- former Alabama crimson tide play went to overall one of four defensive linemen sits three that been drafted in the top three. Right. And so when when when you. Think about that. And what kind of impact Dr Maki as to Pro Bowl? A but typically if you selected in the top five you have to be able to impact the passing game and Ken Williams give you enough bang for the buck when it comes to second quarterback in disrupting the passing game to make it worthy of being a top two or three pick the two running backs. Probably the top two running backs in the draft right now. Depending on who you ask if they are for you. My correct Josh Jacobs, Damian Harris, we did not see jus- Jacobs at the combine was dealing with a little bit of an injury. He comes back runs. His forty four point six. Oh, I believe was the official time that enough for you to be a first-round pick. He's a tricky one. He's a tricky win for me because he's kind of been anointed up there. And I believe he benefits from the elven Kamara bounds advocate. Moore was a guy that should have been a first round. Pick wasn't picked in the first round goes into third around for whatever reason he I'll plays status. So everyone is looking for the next guy that has had success flash. But the production didn't necessarily match the talent. When you looked at the tape. Kamara was different though, because I think to production was you had to look to question that you had about him. He never tested on eighteen times in a game. When I look at Josh Jacobs justic never been over a thousand yards. Right. So we've kind of giving him the benefit of the doubt that he is going to be the store the next level. He's a first round pick. What happens when we start loading up touches the same type of what happens we start loading touches. And what happens when you're the man when everyone knows that you're the Rb one we handed to you. We're gonna drop. An extra defend into box. Can you survive and thrive in that environment? And I think there's a case to be made. I don't know because detract record isn't there's not enough history to say that he can do it. And so I'm a little worried I think to tell them when I talked to run back in a guy can do it all you heard Nick saving strong endorsement he talked about the guy being able to be three down back. He's tough. He's physical. He's a worker. He'll get on special teams do anything everything. Right. So I like to work ethic. But at some point you just wanna make sure that the production matches up in meets where he should be drafted to put that in into perspective two hundred fifty two career touches that's in the run game end in the past game for Josh Jacobs. And by comparison will talk another guy in this class. David Montgomery out of Ohio out of Iowa State two hundred fifty seven carries this year. So look, you know, there's just the sample size is a little bit different. When you go to Damian Harris, the thing that keeps keeps popping into my mind here. I think what the program I think Damian Harris or Josh you have Jesse Darnell Jefferson tailback, and then you have Damian Harris Ray Griffin starting tailback. You know what I mean? Like, he's the guy who started he tried him out there when they need the tough yards guy who can get it it between the tackles funny thing to me is he's he's the exact same measurable guy to Alvin Kamara, but they are different runners different run not as as explosive dynamic with the ball in his hands. But he's just what a co- kind of like a a blue-collar tough guy when it comes to run the ball the thing that is funny is how he's kind of been cast to the side head into the season. He was a guy that was universally celebrated as the number one running back in the class. I don't know what he did. Because he lost his job in some way at Alabama. But we've kind of thrown to the we really haven't had a discussion about dude. But he's been very very productive. And so he is upstaged because Josh Jacobs. Finished a year with the Bank. And I think it is almost like a fight where you kind of win on the cars because you get the little sugary Leonard flurry, right? Around and just with Josh Jacobson being but Damian Harris every good running back in his own, right? Ray griffin. Starting tailback love it. A quickly on Irv. Smith, look, his dad was one of my favorite saints mentioned this former first round pick of the New Orleans Saints believe is back in nineteen Ninety-three. Notre Dame went to brother Martin high school in New Orleans, and look he's a really good player. Right. Probably number three tight end. But does he do enough? Really, really? Well, he any leat enough pass catcher or an elite enough Platt past run blocker pass blocker to be a first round pick. I think so I think he's lied enough. I think he's he's kind of a mixed. He's a flex died in. I believe he blocked well enough to be able to hold his own on the edges, and he is enough athleticism to be difference maker over the middle to feel and what you're looking for the Tynan position now or guys that can create mismatches. I believe he can do to and come from Alabama. I think he's tough enough. He has been exposed to enough of the run game to be a factor when it comes to blocking. I am fine with earth myth being maybe the third tight, and it comes off toward but coming off the board in the first round Joan Williams, garter tackle, almost of tackle give them every opportunity until left tackle, you know, like semesters because I think now both tackles have to be effective, but probably he's better suited to play on the right side. And I got from he needs to be a guy that can can handle guess more of the base defensive end to get. It is not as if let it, but what defenses guys doing now the trick and putting their best pass rusher on this. So they can work against inferior tackle. But I think he's good enough. Give them every opportunity to play on the outside. If he fails move them inside to guard. But I think he can succeed at right tackle in the pros. Lastly, MAC Wilson. 'cause we didn't really see anything from downtown Thomson. Mac wilson. Interesting guy. Right. I mean, probably has more of the measurable 's that you would want from a linebacker in today's NFL a little bit bigger. Maybe even got this from an NFL coach said he kind of likes his speed and strengthen explosiveness maybe even a little bit more than the two Devon's Devin Bush. Okay. But you just don't see the impact that those two guys had from Mak Wilson. And so you're wondering like he kinda like into all right disag-. I Mak Wilson who sees a crack? Come and he's going to take this where the other two guys will do so on your own out in personnel playing personalities or little different look nastier, look grittier. But Wilson is an outstanding player against a ball. In terms of in coverage does great jogging his hands. He'll come now interceptions. He can draw he can flow to the ball all of those things just a different personality, though. And so how does that play immediate rooms when you meet them for the first time? How does the interview thing a lot of that? Will determine where he's drafted because the play speaks for himself. He's a very good player. I call him a b plus player and my estimates. He's a borderline first round player. The personality. I think he pushed him over the top on either way either. He's pushing into the first round or drop them out of the first round based on how you interact with the coaches on interviews. We talked about drew lock for about four hours today on NFL network. We we talked about a half hour lead up to just about four minutes. And how about four minutes, you got it. Drew lock gonna put it on the clock. Here we go. You gave him a B bookie laid out for me. Yeah. Give them a game. A on his pro day performance because he has some Mistrals. But regardless of what he did today. I think he's very intriguing prospect because man, he is outstanding physical tools. I mean, he's the height that you want. He has exceptional arm talent. He's a very good athlete. He can make big throws down to feel. He can make him off platform inside and outside the pocket. The thing that troubles. You about drew lock is inconsistency. You look into Lok completion percentage. He's under sixty four ski you don't like that. He does miss at times on that intermediate air. He wasn't standings to a lot of it today intermediate throws. And then when you watched approach workout he struggled a little bit in that that ten to eighteen yard. Area with those throws. But saying all of that if I am a team looking for your franchise quarterback. And if I have the luxury of having a ga- already in the building drew lock is the first guy that I'll be willing to sign up and take because his talent reminds me a lot of Matthew Stafford. And I think you get them right now where you don't have to rush into the feel. I believe you can teach them how to play the right way just watching how you progressed in the senior bowl from Monday to Saturday. You saw a guy who kind of understood when Jon Gruden was coming at him hard. He responded to it played will practice will. I liked this. So that's important point there. Yeah. Yeah. So when you think about the development potential that he has if you're able to redshirt him for year, or even more I think you have an opportunity to really uncover a really really talented player that becomes a long-term sort of for longtime. I'm with you there. And you know, we talked about range we talk about that a lot ceiling and floor on on path of the draft. Every Monday through Friday, six PM eastern time right here in NFL network. DC him getting past the Redskins at fifteen. It's what risk ins are thinking in how they love their gas currently on their roster. But I think the range for drew lot can be we've talked about Tam, but I'm dropping down a little bit fifteen to twenty eight from the Washington Redskins to LA charges. They're handful teams in between that could make moves to risk into fifteen the Oakland Raiders into twenty seven to make it move. You talk about the old guard when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. You talk about the New York Giants have another by today apple shirts at I mean, like those teams chargers have of mic. So I think he could be in play at the bottom of the first round by team. That has a veteran quarterback that is a year to away from kind of walking off into the sunset. Drew Brees would be a great game to get develop and see how he plays out. Lastly on this one I thought it was interesting. You compared in the Matthew Stafford Steve whites told us that drew lock mentioned the lions. Our team. He's meeting with oh doesn't surprise me. Here is why it doesn't surprise. The Detroit lines maybe ready to move all Matthew Stafford only because Matt Patricia wants to play a certain way. And if you think about the way the patriots played traditionally Tom Brady is one of those guys who was okay doing different things. He's older. Now, though, he'll run the ball. He doesn't my hand the ball off to the runningback twenty twenty five times he'll throw when he has throw. He doesn't have the put it all himself. I don't know if we can get Matthew Stafford to do that. Because Matthew Stafford is only one way for his entire career in Detroit. He's always headed all on him. Now, he's never really had the luxury of having a strong running game behind him. But when you look at the Detroit Lions doing the Detroit Lions are trying to play a little more old school traditional ball. They going get Dera Belva to be the new office coordinator Matt petitions talked about being able to run the football defensive coach wants to run it play. Good defense keeping score. Now control the game with the run. We'll Matthew Stafford sign. Yup. To do that. So if you can't get Matthew Stafford to do that. How about we go to the lab and make it Matthew Stafford clone that has similar traits? It said teach him how to play the game to quote, unquote, right way. I love Stafford. I mentioned today on our produce special. Stafford is still one of the guys that the manning stock about as the most impressive that has run through the mail. Super all summer. But I'm Mitch I talked to Archie this morning and said he was in love with the way the ball came out of drew lock hand. He didn't make the comparison. But I'm just I'm bringing that up because he was really impressed by him. So Matthew Stafford to top ten quarterback in the league right now. Right or well. I think you make argument I think like some people will say the SEC is some people say, no, he's not that's bowl last year. I was willing to say he was MVP until they come to wheels. Phil felt his last year. He got hurt. Remember, he got hurt. Yeah. I think the pink or the hand. Yeah. Because even then they finish Tennessee. Jim co was last year. Yeah. Ninety six seven at a winning record. And so he was playing really well until he got hurt. And so I mean you right Steph number they're not seven so Matthew staff. It was number one overall. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. So that's interesting. I think the Denver Broncos are interesting at number ten if. John Elway falls in love with a big arm. We seen that happen in the past with Paxton Lynch, right? We don't wanna make that mistake. Again. I'm not saying by any means that that drew lock Paxton. But it's it's fun. It's fun to play that game. And we shall see. 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David Morris of QB Country + Senior Bowl DE Interviews

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

26:15 min | 2 years ago

David Morris of QB Country + Senior Bowl DE Interviews

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks what's up everybody here from move ticks just got back for mobile, Alabama where we had a great week to reach senior bowl outstanding event of Nagy the wonderful job of hosting all thirty two teams. Go chance to see the raiders and the forty Niners coach their spots and Leonard up being a high scoring affair the fun afternoon out there in mobile, Alabama for Bucky it myself. Although during the week, it wasn't too mentio-. We had the PB you Lewis with the help gather, some interviews and on today's podcast. We're gonna rule some of those conversations we had some of them Bucky myself play a wreck was able to grab some guys, and we're gonna run that sound for you right now starting off with the man who's been coaching. Daniel Jones quarterback from Duke who ended up being the envy of the reach a senior bowl. David morrissey. Runs QB country down. Out of mobile, Alabama. And rep had a chance to catch up with. David Morris QB country who's gonna be training. Daniel Jones do quarterback in the run-up to the draft. And this is nothing new for you, though, you know, Daniel for a long time give us an idea of how that relationship started. And what it was like when you first laid your eyes on him as a quarterback. Yes. Oh, Daniel's been coming down here to mobile train and since he was a sophomore in high school. And you know, first time I saw him probably six two hundred seventy pound kid. And I think at the beginning of that year he was five eleven right. And so he's a kid that you know, now, he's six five he'll grow probably. But. Yeah. Known for a long time. I think the thing that that stands out as is just how Tuffy how competitive is he's he's a pro. He's a mature kid, but you know, just excited for him to be down here at the senior bowl. How do you? How would you describe the development from the time refers to him as a young kid in high school to where he is? Now, I mean preparing to. Perhaps be a first round pick in the NFL. Yeah. I mean, I think every year he's gotten better he's gotten stronger. He's got more confident. He he's been very well coached by pretty familiar with coach was my coach Beckett ole miss, but yeah, he's just prepared. You know, he's he's obviously declared early, but I think from standpoint of you know, kind of growing mentally growing gaining weight. He's got a little bigger every year. But I mean, he's really God that is played better. And better feel like every year when you mentioned coach cut, I mean, obviously, Peyton Manning aligning come to mind. What would you say are the traits of David cut cliff coach quarterback, and how does that manifest itself and Daniel? Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing that comes to mind would be prepared his quarterbacks are going to be prepared. He he expects a lot out of the quarterback. Coach cut puts a lot on the quarterbacks plate long play calls are going to be tough for new to Dana necessary. Early. I think he's used to call in fronts used to looking at contours of defenses, and and you know, making might calls and all that change of protection. So I think he's he's prepared. And I think he's a coach cut is is he lets, you know, just how special it is. And what honored is to play quarterback? So I think there's a respect for the game there. Yeah. Obviously, you know, having some of that manning influence as well how close they are with coach cut. I mean, how how would you describe their relationship? Obviously we've seen him down demanding passing academy this past summer. Just another kind of crucial piece to quarterback resume if you will to hang out with those guys a little bit. You know, I think it's been really cool for Daniel. Peyton always go back to to train into work with coach cut and in. It tells you a lot about coach cut, and and you know, just just how much they think of how you know. I still talk to coach often one of those things are a lean on him for advice or just kind of touch base here. And there I think there's a special bond that coach cut has with his quarterbacks, and obviously Eli and Peyton probably his favourite to probably though. Yeah. I think there's a neat thing going on there. You see any of those guys in Daniel do I mean, there's there's there's some Ella today annual. I was I was fortunate enough to be unfortunate enough to be. Yes. Second second. Oh key room football career. But it's your guy. Right. But no, I mean, I, you know, somewhat perceived as soft spoken, I think, you know, sometimes you could you could say, you know, what is the leadership style there? But, but you know, they're both two year three year captains on their teams in and they just have their own way of doing it, very confident guys. But they don't have to be the one talking in the room all the time. And I think Daniel has that. Well, there is in that is one of the perceptions of Daniel a quieter guy a little bit more reserved in, you know, maybe that's an alarm bell for some people looking for a quarterback to be that guy that goes out there like Baker Mayfield running around all over the place, but you know, in well, he comes out of that shell dundy. Absolutely. I mean, I think when he's in a meeting room when he's on the field when he's Lanta scrimmage. You see the you see the leadership you see the thord of kind of nature, you see the confidence and you see the comfort level there. And I think you know, there's not one way. To do it across NFL. There's there's there's different personalities throughout, you know, the quarterback rooms, and and I think Daniels very confident in his own style. And I think that's probably the most important thing. What are you working on with him right now in the next couple of weeks in the run-up to the draft? Yes. So so, you know, the first couple of weeks, we're kind kinda geared towards getting ready for the senior bowl and just trying to to try to cram a little obvious. The next phase will be combine. And and so have I guess about a month and kinda cramming and getting ready for the combine all the testing aspect interviews every day, you're trying to get a little better. And so you we're just trying to be more consistent and trying to get under center and doing doing the under center drives and and get used to the seven step game a little bit. But I mean, I think across the board. I've been just you know, hadn't been surprised at all to see just how how much Daniel, you know, kind of bought in and is working his tail off. So it's been fun mechanically in. And just from a fundamental standpoint. How'd you describe where he is right now to some of the other guys you think through it is really good coach cut is a mechanics guy. I think we work on mechanics just because it's part of part of the process know part of being a self evaluate or so I think you always want to be is sound as you can be. But I mean, you know, he's got great feet. He he works hard in his drops. I think I think we can, you know, get more consistent with with certain throws. And we're working at that. I mean, you're always working at that. And I mean, there's there's 'em VP guys in the NFL that that are trying to get better at that. So I think it never stops. But I mean, I think in general it's one of those things that, you know, we're we're kind of honing in on the combat and the different aspects of the process. What's his best throw his best throw outs? He does a great dig. He throws a great comeback. He's an athlete. He likes to be on the run one. Those are those are I'd call those money throws. Michael Thomas, run the day injure breeze. Puts it on the big time sticks throws third wall. That's where your who loves the dig in. I think I think that's probably his his throw kinda back to coach cod. I mean, you throw so many cross Arauz, you know, opposed to just basics kind of the deep dig and he had gotten into eighteen to twenty like we're doing now, but it's been really easy. And then on the talk about him is the thrower their athletically miss again. It's run for a returner yards in a game before. Yeah. I mean better than Eli. That is a little bit better. Right. That's not going to expect that kind of running element from him on the next level. Or is he capable of that kind of stuff? I mean, I think I think if you start paying attention to guys that are running around in the league at quarterback, it's hard to stay healthy. I think you'd probably like to not run around a lot. But I mean, he can get you out of a bad jam. Yeah. I mean, you hear people compare them a little bit to Carson Wentz athletically. I see that. Right. I mean, hopefully, you know, hopefully, one of those things he's competitor is a competitor. And so what you wanna do with competitors? Just no one to call it a call a player. I think that was it that was the horn on a Scone at a golden interview. Thanks buddy, David Morris QB countries for Daniel Jones. Great work, by Rhett. Get a chance to hear David Morris. Stocks is is really one of these guys. It's it's working with a lot of the top quarterbacks on a yearly basis. So great to get his his his perspective on Jones and look forward to further developing that relationship with him as we continue through the draft process and had a chance to catch up with a couple other players while we were down there. One of which was Boston College defensive end Zach Islan. Are joined by one of the toughest players in this year's draft last easing. Toughest players down here at the senior bowl Zach. How you doing good? Join it is fun. I appreciate taking some time for us here today. Let's start. Let's start out with the week. You've got this big week coming up at the senior bowl guys always trying to make a statement here. You wanna get your name out there? And it kinda let everybody know what you're all about. What are your goals? Yeah. I definitely want to prove you know, my toughness, and I played in the which is good football. But you know, the senior bowl is the best players in college football overall. So definitely wanna show that I could do against anybody. Not just you know, and in the ACC, and then also I want to show people that can rush the passer for many spot on the field. I think a lot of people are going to be insured with my versatility. And just really looking forward to, you know, proven the naysayers wrong, you're thinking about it like doing a self scale when you watch on what we say to your game. I think versatility is a big one like you can see from my sophomore through senior seasons. I've played everything from zero to a nine. But also, I feel like I able to mix in speed and power pretty well being to eighty five and also I feel pretty strong with my punch and my hands. And I have a good base. I'm not really getting night back by anyone really play against some really good interior guys tackles, everything, and I really hold my own against everyone play talking about pass rushers. A lot of time to talk about them pitchers have different pitches. If you had if you had to rate yourself, give me your best three pitches as a pass rush. Yeah. So I think I like the base everything off my power. I think once you have a guy, you know, really kind of when he's going backwards and I'm coming into eighty five full speed. A lot of guys are going to kind of knock. Mocked back, and they're gonna make sure the brace for it. And then throw in the touching go or the sizes IRS while they're leaning just a, you know, just get them going forward. Explain explain for those who listen don't know, aside, scissors, aside, scissors. He shoots his hands. And I just get the hands off. So I feel like I'm pretty good with my hands. I getting game away and then touching go. You know, try to show that show the power with one arm, and then he punches and I get it down. And just have been the corner. You seem pretty events in refined. When it comes to being able to talk about the techniques who are some of the guys that you looked at or maybe Pat in your game at what we don't answer because I'm gonna whisper his ear who you. Who's the first guy? So obviously JJ watt. That's always talking about scissors basis. School Joey too. But I coach Paschal Oni was my defensive line coach for the past. With my sophomore junior years, and he just came when he came to BC came straight from Houston. So I was always watching JJ film. And he's the best to do it. So you wanna learn from the best, and you know, kind of similar build similar size. You know, obviously is quite wealthy sell quite well. And you know, I have always go to get there. But you know, I think that's a good person to chase again, Joey Bosa. It was actually, you know, another guy. Yeah. No just watch a lot of his tape. And so those two guys really influenced me a lot chance during this week is a lot of people might not know all the meetings, you have with teams so ever meeting could take different out time some of them going to be five minutes. Probably not go more than fifteen twenty minutes with these teams, but takeaway behind the curtain a little bit. You know, what goes on in in terms of all it's just all the information. You gotta give these. Yeah. A lot of it is repetitive questions. But yeah. No. A lot about yourself. But a lot of scouts. You know, they came to practice goes. Actually had a lot of pro prospects of the new a lot about us. Just make sure you know, you're telling the truth and no red flags major red flags, and you know, my favorite parts when we started talking football. You know, watching old gain tape drawn up defenses. You know? That's I I love football. I love talking it. So that's my favorite part about it. So this game is a game where people really been able to elevate themselves when it comes to the draft. What are some of the things that you don't to prepare really dominate this week? Yes. Oh, my agent actually flew out. Chuck Smith pass rush specially route. Yeah. Yeah. And he's worked with, you know, von Miller Aaron Donald than I worked with him this this offseason and working with him again out and Zona where I'm training. He's we really I think we came up with a great plan really to how to tack it and going over film to is a big thing for me. I'm a big film guy. So going over, you know, watching, you know, Aaron Donald most recent another probably going to be place them inside watching more JJ watt film. Joey. Osa Carlos Dunlap, you know, guys. Like that just to see you know, what I'm doing. And also some self scout washing my best games in my worst game. See what worked with didn't work. So pick up a really good plan. I'm ready to use it as you look in the office of lime that you may go against Madonna. I did I did, you know, I actually wanted to guess a couple, and you know, I have plenty of Chris Lynn from tape because he. Yeah. I know going into one once. But yeah, I did watch you know, try and go on YouTube trying to find it the best go on Exo C scouting games. But that's just kind of. I've always felt if you prepare the best you can get at the end of the day. You can look yourself in the mirror. You know? I just got beat by someone better. You know, there's nothing else they could do. But once you leave that doubt. That's that's something. I just I can't go to sleep. You can tell us. I know you probably won't tell the teams you don't wanna take anybody off patriots fan. I'm not actually real. No, I grew up. Giants dolphin fans because I was right by New York so giants and they were winning the Super Bowl. Well, my mom was chillier for the dolphins. So my yeah. So, you know, had those are you were watching like ace Ventura as. She reference knows like she's. She was back in the eighties. Yeah. She she was doing it to pay for school and pay for you know, my grandmother's cancer treatments at the time. But yes, she both my parents, you know, we're really instrumental and have great stories and very blessed to have him. I love that was the last question for me. Let's get through your rookie year. It's a year from now you're looking back. What you want? We look -ccomplish your one. Yeah. I think I want to be, you know, more than a contributor. I wanna be an all pro guy. I think I have the potential to do that, you know, just seeing the guys who I've played against and how compared and seeing the success safe. Like the Quinn Nelson. The Bradley Chubb this year and herald, you know, it's all it was, you know, competition I feel like I'm on the same level and seeing that success. But also, you know, saying football goes as the D line goes team go so being on a successful D line. And, you know, bring success to that delighted hopefully, driving us to championship would be a really special way to start out enough ochre. I love it. I love. That's the right answer. I I love it. When you can find a way to get the ultimate team goal accomplished with also handling your business into the right answer. Thanks for your time. Thank you very much. Clean up your remote control clutter in time for the Super Bowl with control center by Kabo. That's C A V O plug in your streamer Soundsystem cable or satellite, even your game console and control center. 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Definitely brought the power when you look at him during the one on ones. He did not lie to us his first rep he did try and bowl rush. Trying show off that strengthen power that he possesses. It was good week for Boston College players down there. I thought Liz from the guard from Boston College had a great week of practice as well. So fun to watch those guys compete that gallon. Definitely a high effort player. No doubt about that chance to see that firsthand. Not player that flash during the week of practice. Outstanding game is Texas pass rusher. Charles men, who he was outstanding. And he is was a fun conversation for us as well. Here's our chat me, but you sat down with just remit. Remit are joined by Charles right now in Charles. I gotta start first question's very serious question for you. I know you had your phone out. So I won't go social media. I want what your favorite follow could we Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, who's favorite follow? My favorite follows fought. Like who do you follow that you following? So this is gotten him chief OB, he's a he's a comedian. I'm Nigerian so that's where the name calling from. He's not your and he's Larry do on the I stay into my culture. So he's really refunding. He keeps the comedy Sabra Coulter ABI. And if I need a laugh, I'll go right to the page. Chief who'd out chief chief underscore OB. Okay. In the your career takes obviously turn around. But you had a coaching change. What did you find out about yourself and having to deal with the coaching change and all sorts of kind of went with? So I mean, you know, people you have a cold and change coach change of how things are done. So you gotta debt. So you look at it as a businessman late and business people come people go, you got to learn how to depth in depth situations and be able to excel wherever situation so co strong, obviously recruited me be Puerto reason why came to Texas, but we didn't do what we need to do this for us. Keep a man like it's a will. Can you do me now kind of deal, especially UT? So they let them go and Bronco charm. Michael Jordan was a lot more of a business like this. I would doing things to the T very thought kind of thing. So that's how it was. And you got adapt to this. Or you're gonna left on the chain is like on the off. So it was and I think for me, it just showed me a help understand that you know, in business. We're gonna come and go, and you got to be open to to do whatever. And adapt to whatever situation things that come with. Let's get into you as a player here. Are you a lot of different things if you could choose one role for yourself where would you like the play? What would you like to do? I mean, obviously like versus USA meet and to get in question. But I feel like I could do whatever team or anybody would ask me feel like I need to do whatever I need to do contribute right away to inauguration. That's what I'll do. But when you prefer the for. I mean, so I'm very comfortable playing on the aids man, very comfortable playing defense van getting out there rushing. The quarterback, though, give me a three word of I have you as a passer just as a pass rusher. Describe you in a report three words you as a password or what are laying explosive dynamic go. And think about that. I was Ed the sugarbowl had a chance to watch you against that was a really big game. I've I came away thing that was really big game for your team. And for you personally. What was it about? Facing Georgia where you guys at so much to prove and we're so motivated to play a high level. So yeah, you know, you get the big to deal, and you get the SEC's here and everybody else's life trying to reach him or whatever. And just it's out there map people talk about George is going to be my fourteen plus Georgia fell like they were snubbed or whatever with the playoffs stuff. So they're gonna be there like trying to raise Rambus face. And we heard those things use that motivation to be like. Like, we're Texas big dogs to just go in the big toe them. So we came out there and just fire, my hair hair hair on fire saying and was high from snap. I not to the last man, we was just ready to go to put your scouting hat on here joined to scouts here. And let's do some scouting what talk about maybe the most electric player in college football Moore, you got a chance to see him twice. So I want a little evaluation on him. And maybe a comparison, which what you Kyla Murray in the guy he replaced and Baker Mayfield. So yeah, Carl I mean best play I've ever played against my life hands down dynamic with running the ball. And then also people might not give him as most credit, but you Can Tho that. So. Yeah. Book compare him to Baker Baker the bigger than run the ball. He did Baker is loose. So now you go back and watch our game. I mean Baker duck, some Saks Mead one. Fortunately to side was just got one. But he's a lucid tube. But not the love collard throwing I think they're right there with each other. They're both very accurate, trusted, they trust their arms crazy. But I think collars better because he can run that thing you feel this speed. Like a lot of times you ask defensive players. They know how fast somebody somebody say. Can you feel you feel his speed when you're onto feel Murray? Yeah. So the first time we played them is option play. And I had my job was sued slow play him. So he would pitch it and give everybody rally to the pitch, man. And so he when the option he's going to silence come pretty close, but not not too 'cause I'm playing them. And he seemed he don't keep it. But he was playing so slow. So he's lawyers. And then Bill. Do like lightning win by man, bro. I looked to my my db. Did you see this, man? Like he was literally right there. And then hit the Ceylon sofas bre. And then he's so good like tiptoeing gala, actually are extending the ball. High cares the ball. And also, do we're we're going to get some real do like, Mike Vickers, this this this awesome. Quote. I wanna know even more about it because you face them twice. How much did he change in the second game? From the first game didn't run as much. The second game was a lot more of their Trump pound the rock, and we did we did decent job of the run. But they're trying to throw that ball and move the park there. There are a lot more balanced than they were the first game. Last question for me. I want to get into your rookie season is getting ready to embark on your pro-career here. What your goals your one your rookie goals one? I mean, I just want contribute like a high level for whatever team blessing opportunity in the fell and pig. By them. So I want Bill contributor early level like early stage and making impediment team. And hopefully, we in some games the playoffs and get the low tastes how play football, isn't it? I like it before to watching compete this week at senior bowl do your best out there. And we'll catch you as you March on this draft towards this path towards draft this thing so most map. Is a fun young man to talk to at man, you about what you want your defensive to look like. Exactly would not up and enjoy getting his perspective on quarterbacks. I love talking to these players and get their ideas thoughts about their opponents down there on the field in the battle and used to find out who they are impressed by. And that was definitely strong words about Kyle Murray comparing him with what he saw from Baker Mayfield. So really enjoyed that conversation. Look forward to watching him as we head towards the NFL scouting combine. Well, that's gonna do it for us today. It was a fun week a jam packed week. We're trying to get our feet back underneath a back here in California after a great time down there in mobile, Alabama. But we will have plenty of Super Bowl talk. 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MNF recap of Packers' win & who is next year's San Francisco 49ers?

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

43:52 min | 1 year ago

MNF recap of Packers' win & who is next year's San Francisco 49ers?

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks everybody what's going on Aj bucky here move the sticks are our football world is full right now buck I I it wasn't that long ago we're just waiting for the start of the football season a two or three year span and it happens fast and I think they're the latest example of that all right let's let's get into the game last night here lines packers packers one little controversy there twenty soon with the team building process to kind of watch how you expect certain teams to be when you look at them in the preseason or when you see what they acquire in the draft and I think there's some candidates to be next year's version of the forty niners team where they've got some good players they've had some bad luck this year could find themselves with a high pick and could have a three to twenty two obviously some hand to the face penalties that people in Detroit were none too pleased about on some key downs there but just your overall big picture take away from hit on some off the radar. NFL Head coaching candidates and then I was I was thinking about this when the forty niners a team last year that's picking up there in the top five the number two overall pick but the reason they were up there was because they were crushed with injuries you start with a quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo last year as as well as some other injuries so I felt like the talent was much better than the record to counter play to the stress of their squad and so now believe the assessments that we make about teams are more real and true because we've seen old as well as the football world and we we kind of answer this question or were seeking to answer this question why is there so much carryover in these two sports so many great Abbott and you can begin to Kinda separate the contenders from the pretenders just on the surface and so I think more teams are taken that approach and we're seeing teams begin it gets cranked up but in this episode today Buck we've got a little recap from the from the lines packers game which was very interesting to say the least a lot of topics to hit there fell players were also great basketball players so we're going to have some interesting conversations and dive into that topic can't wait for you guys to hear that episode once it's up and running once the basketball season a couple good moves in free agency your team can go from being lost in the wilderness to be in one of the teams that we talk about being a heavyweight contender in the league and you talk about being able to do it oh no doubt and it's so true when you look at what we've seen it's Kinda there's some fool's gold in the middle of some of these first three four weeks but now you're starting to see things China even what you're starting to realize what the identities really are for these football teams I I do want tease what's coming up not just on today's show get to that in a second but in the future with the start of the basket in free agency and then when you get a chance to watch them in the preseason and then when you see them actually play and I think we have reached a point now where the NFL is you a blueprint for how to rebuild this it took maybe a little log in some of US speculated but you are seeing that if you make the right moves in the draft and you supplement with all season really close we're GONNA have a we're gonNA have a special episode coming your way so be on the lookout for that where we're going to speak with a couple of folks that have a connection in the basketball balanced out meaning they not only can depend on number twelve Aaron Rodgers to do magical things and helped him win gains but they now have kind of decided to a quick turnaround yeah absolutely there's teams that are well positioned to count aspect so it'd be fun to have that conversation because you're right the San Francisco Forty niners have kind of laid out the visual evidence to kind of make some determinations on which teams between trending the right way and which teams need to make some significant moves to really help them get back on track that is better position to be a viable contender on a yearly basis When I look at the Green Bay packers they are team that has finally the real preseason differently the first four games that are regular season I really kind of fill out process when there were really into the meat of the season you kind of have an identity being this game and what you thought about the the controversy there look at a couple big big pitcher takeaways for me one I think the Green Bay packers have build a team the team that has the ability to run the ball we saw them run in a dominant fashion against the Detroit lions you still have Aaron Rodgers able to do special things that he talked about his unforeseen you put this on twitter the first four games of the regular season are meaningless they're really preseason games because you still trying to figure out your team because teams are treating Zabell to do but also their defense can keep the score down and give them opportunities and to that offense cranks up I can't say that in the past we can compete because they're taking some of the weight off of Roger Shoulder and allowing the team the entire team to be a big part of the winning game plan to work themselves back now they have a defense that is able to do that and it gives them to luxury of being able to commit to run into ball and grinding it out and taking some of the pressure off Aaron Rodgers and I think this is a better long-term plan with Aaron Rodgers getting older that over the next two or three years to packers will be able to continue to look at a Green Bay packers team and say if Aaron Rodgers didn't play great or if this offense didn't can hit the ground running from the beginning of the game that their defense could kind of keep it in play for them you know it's interesting one of the stats that I've always looked at have long felt was important versus sacks allowed you kind of look at that sack ratio there and they've done a nice job there of building up the fronts on both sides and this off season you talk about addressing a need and look there's different theories right bucks and this Green Bay packers team is plus seven right now eighteen sex on defense they've only allowed eleven on offense and to me I think that speaks to how you're built times you can say well we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA sprinkle our resources in different areas of the team are going to have a balance football team I thought man the Green Bay packers that we've got to be better upfront defensively and they unloaded they unloaded the checkbook they loaded with draft picks and they loaded up on that defensive front and I think it's it's plain as day it's having a big time impact absolutely able to be a difference maker Upfront and then the investments resources that they've committed to the back end those guys are showing up we're seeing they're young guys show up a man coverage and do those things and we'll talk about this later maybe we'll talk about a day maybe we talk about it down the line to be able to play effective coverage today's league ax covered but everyone is playing man the New England patriots being successful because they're playing man demand the Green Bay packers playing more men demand so there's some observers Lulu having a bigtime impact for them the way they play is just so different in terms of the way they used to play like on defense when I look at them on defense they play in particular set of skills? If you can't run I will find you and I will kill you yes and that's exactly what happens I we talk about Waldo right that's our whole thing we've been saying to be able to play man coverage there was very evident in that game we saw the Detroit lions walk up and play a ton of man to man they did it without pressure for man fronts corner but being able to play it from off you have a tougher time finding a way up the board because I think more teams are realizing the only way to stop this impressive slater quarterbacks I don't know if you if you look on that next Gen stats where they do the shot charts for quarterbacks yes it's funny man because if you look at a lot of teams that play corners on left and right Oh Jersey and know that that is out of the field that we're working on and I believe we talk about everything being cyclical just like we're seeing more teams go back for four or five years you'd better have a wall though out there because if you WanNa play man you got somebody that can't run they are going to identify him they are going to wear him out and I've seen as the way to evaluate DB's the Tampa to corner is going to go by the wayside and if you don't have the skills to be able to lock demand demand not only as a buffer run or been more difficult for an offense to get away with pick routes and routes I know you see you see it here and there but it's it's more difficult to get away from me the trend that I'm seeing man coverage what used to be Dj where people would play Banjo or switch coverage meaning dead if you have a crazy it is so crazy the way that is it is coming back around but yeah it's it's coming back four circle and is one of those things where we talked about it man I don't know how many times we have implored untold young athletes who are standing in the wide receiver line at your respect except I play I think I think too I think to the movie taken and I think of wide receivers before the snap saying I've spent a lot of time acquiring which calls to create favourable opportunities for the quarterback now I I think it's a great point and you look at the the way that the league just kind of circles all back around communication errors everyone knows exactly who they're on and it prevents the things that offense coordinator can do to manipulate those Banjo it's called too much so some of the some of the Beatles some of those men beaters that you have a little more difficult now because of the way that it gets called so closely on the interference and is in close proximity the corners Kinda back off in the guy that was lined up inside we take the first guy to shows inside the Gaddis on the outside we'll take the release off-season in summer learning how to fight through learning how to get a different levels because when you don't switch it actually plays to the defenses advantage because you're less likely to have these former and some of the analytics teams are going after select Agus no and I think the other part of this it's kind of interesting is that it's it's what back and studied them and first of all eliminate three because there's three kneel downs so really sixteen so you're talking about sixteen runs Lamar Jackson in this game sixteen athletes that can run and that are skilled at the process we'll have an opportunity to play those are the guys that have to play cornerback and so is huge opportunity out there for you you will see the shot chart and it's early illtyd and you say okay well I know who their corner they wanna go after I mean the whole shot chart is to one side or the other you look. Dj that is are playing in the league you gotTa make them too tight windows and only way you can do it as a man coverage if you can't run at the Corner Position Book You have a plan thirteen were designed quarterback runs some variation of zone read pretty much on all of them so thirteen of the sixteen were designed runs talking about interceptions being down and that's naturally going to happen because when you play more man to man your back is to the quarterback when you were defender but it's going to jail we're now what teams are doing because we see patients do this for years there's no switching whoever you're locked on your locked onto him and then you spend all of your time through any all ten times in those sixteen runs he was tackled to the ground okay so that to me is a formula that's not sustainable and I think it's fascinating for somebody like yourself who entered the league in the late nineties to look up and and turn on the tape and realize oh my gosh I feel like I've gotten a time machine so dominate fashion they're they're doing a good job of corral and Iran so they can unleash to pass rushers of late for the past versus that they've gone out and you talk about presses really zig area Smith he is he did not get hit on any of them because when you scramble you have open space everything's the defense has been able to expand as you're dropping back you can find space you can he does as we've seen for years Russell does a phenomenal job of protecting himself when he's a scrambler so I get I think you can sprinkle the league I stepped into the League that up late nineties that's how it was in practice when you had your scout team they were set up the guy who was the target he would wear the five ten to six one or two if you will walk yourself over the quarterback and if you will commit the time and energy to mastering the skills backpedaled a bit about on the aftermath the other day but I went back and when you watch those the Mark Jackson runs last week he ran right through Cincinnati bengals but there are nineteen Carey's so the ball like nine or ten times and I think maybe two of them were designed quarterback runs maybe two or three at the most but he used his athletic ability to scramble and of high school and you're the fifth sixth and seventh wide receiver on a team to play four watts if you would just walk on the other side of the line of scrimmage and on the defensive side of the ball I don't want to which topics for a second year book I wrote down here scrambling runs versus quarterback designed runs and the reside did that Talked look at the what do you had three scramble so now you're talking about just their past place he sees yardage he goes and gets on those three scrambles he he ran for fifty three yards I I definitely understand your worry and concern because if ten of those runs ended in tackled plays where you but I just look at the Formula Yearbook of thirteen design runs at sixteen and getting tackled to the ground ten times I do not think that's GonNa last year is taken to the ground I would worry about it I think some of it really though depends on the kind of tackles and how he was hit I think the one thing that Lamar win a couple of those designed quarterback runs throughout a game a couple of them to me I would say five would-be the number that I wouldn't want to go beyond and then I would encourage Lamar look tap your coats and say I would love to play cornerback in could you please teach me you have an advantage especially if you are one of those athletes that is right around six foot waken Dr Turner run playing the ball you have an opportunity not underplay beyond high school but you have an opportunity to be a top pick because you talked about what everyone is looking for Jackson has done he's done a better job of taking himself to the sideline a lot of times when you're going towards the silent you don't take as violent of a blow take some of these designed quarterback runs off your plate but we're going to encourage you man if you see if you're dropping back in UC space man don't hesitate go take it but just promise me you're going to protect yourself around the corner which are counted on runs that you like really this boils down to and I think we can throw Shawn Watson into the category does Shawn Watson closed they issue out a little more significant and violent what Baltimore has done is they've made him an edge runner they've made him an often old I'm just saying Look Russell Wilson if I'm the Baltimore Ravens that is my Northstar I mean that is the that is who I'm trying to emulate that's what I'm trying to build my offense around in case of emergency you break the glass and he does that he does it eight to ten times a game and it's very effective I just even when you're even on some of those rates to to back football or two tight end sets we're seeing the league comeback around and what teams are doing what office coordinators are doing and with the assistance of scouting the go runner they made him a sweep runner and what they've done is the plate running repeatedly against Cincinnati it was fake inside zone and then he's getting outside the tackle box a lot of times where he still tries to cut it up he's not running out of bounds and oh I'm just seeing when you get pulled back and your twisted and turned at that position in it then you can find grass or you can find the sideline you get down you can get out of balance you can you can protect yourself and when you go back and watch Russell Wilson I think this last game he ran ran hours. USC The counter Kinda come inside and they're more bigger bodies because you have the defensive linemen and you have the linebackers that are really used to dealing with running back so the Gastineau even wants fascinated with the ball but if you go play quarterback has to play go do it well that's I think that's a great message for youngsters out there go would poor and lead with two gas coming around the corner so he almost essentially was the president he had a secret service escorts As you would inside I think the other thing that the Baltimore Ravens have done in college you AC- quarterbacks run in between the tackles UC inside quarterback these quarterbacks in college and so we all are into room is to scouts and the coaches and the office coordinator I think is really important at the office coordinator way they're committed to him and the way they're committed to playing this way I love we love trace mcsorley I think still want to see a little bit of resurgence there the conversation that we probably should have about Cam Newton Cam Newton should be or could be when he returns we've seen the Carolina Panthers when I grow Baltimore Ravens have done a really good job of putting Lamar Jackson in a situation where he doesn't take the heavy blows and that is unable to him to be around Cam Newton to one that is now built around Christian McCaffrey McCaffrey to me is a franchise quarterback everything is about a we gotta figure out a way to get twenty to the ball added as dangerous but you're right nineteen runs are lot sixteen raw takes one and it only takes one buck and there's times where he gets bent and tugged and the camera turns we've been very successful with Chris McCaffrey Planning Certain Way Cam Newton however can't play like cow Allen's plate so do we have a conversation with Cam Newton debt when he's running this hour Watson's runs are primarily scrambles the touchdown run that he had to kind of win the game was impromptu run where look man go be an athlete a number that number may be eight eight to ten runs per game but you know if I say eight to ten that means look five desire quarterback runs and then he has his allotment will make a play and he avoided a big when he spun inside hours worried when he spotted he was going to meet up and spin into a smack but he just has it when we are evaluating the he's not good enough he's not accurate enough as a passer to effectively do that I am fascinated by what the Carolina panthers are going to do because is a conversation with the offers a quarter and the quarterback where the offense coordinator has to understand like look we would like to kind of keep his runs to grandma that he can throw in and then the conversation that you have with the quarterback is look get what you can get down or get out about one or the other but you cannot we're in the passing game you can count on him to deliver so when Cam Newton comes back my mind is what are we want this offense to look like wait to hear your answer on this one we've Seen Carolina Panthers win four games four games in a row we cal Allen at quarterback the offense is transformed to one that was built and everything around them or the complimentary pieces cow Allen has become the perfect joystick for norv Turner norv Turner Basti calls a play he plays video game at some point is going to end and we're fine with that is he willing to accept that or is he stuck in his ways and he's going to try to play the game by cow Allen where I don't WanNa see them man I don't want to say I don't think I think this offense hasn't been custom made for Lamar Jackson and I think this team has been custom built for Lamar Jackson I WANNA make sure I see Rivera well and your Ron Rivera shoes here you've got a relatively new owner your football games and save your job so I mean I feel like we're like right in the middle of it going on we're definitely in the mix I love it though I think this is fascinating I think is fascinating from our perspective where we are I imagine camps going to camps going to get his job back but Bach if they lose you know couple of games that'd be it'll be weird if he's healthy got hooked but I don't anticipate them you know waiting too long if things are not going well once he's reinserted into lineup because they've proven they have a formula that wins with Kyle I mean take it we don't want the extra yard we wanted to get as much as you can and these while we're on this topic I think he kind of brings us to we hadn't had this on the thing I think it brings us I won't bother to go here he and their account Allen is obliging Cam Newton however can't play that way Cam Newton can't be a joystick and he we see it every week Russell Wilson makes plays with his legs impact plays with his legs but it's just kind of more organic you know it's not it's not designed it's just organic and he just let's see who stands to running game that they're scrambling quarterback or to do a three quarterback plays in any tries to mirror what he did in college while protecting him we understand who you are you're basically a single wing quarterback UA dual threat and we're GONNA ride you to the wheels fall off meaning you don't run the ball you can do all of those things that you've done a lot of panthers and you're faced with this dilemma and let's just just know that Cam Newton is on the books next year for nine hundred million but only two of that is guaranteed okay so you're sitting here talk about your MVP quarterback legend to the Super Bowl can you have a conversation where you say either played this way or we have to play the other guy I have no idea what you do if you run sixteen weeks yeah you would you like to do there's always a risk with all these quarterbacks because we saw nick foles and some of these guys get into pocket but what you're trying to do is minimize risk with our no eighteen nineteen million surplus money potentially if you elect move on from cameo you look at the way this team is constructed you have Christopher after you have a defense that's playing lightsout you could have eighteen you know to play with if you move on from canute knowing that look how Allen has it ceiling I'm not saying they do so so here's here's the thing Jay so like let's imagine but let's let's let's put your the manage the Manage Union Mardi Hernia the what do you do well it's not even just that it's not even just that book it's you're dealing with a ticking time bomb because Cam Newton because of the way he mcallen is a franchise quarterback or anything like that but we have seen many teams have been really successful with a cheap quarterback and distributing the money to other areas comeback win football games show that you can win football games and stay healthy for the remaining stretch of the season because there are a whole host of reasons for them to move on and all the other quarterbacks like Russell Wilson and the like or do you value at less because the risk potentially may be greater because he how can play at his best would you be okay if I told you like look I can give you ten years of Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson at his best but in your so let's just say look okay so about that's about that time okay so now that we look Dj from a team building standpoint would you be okay like based on in changing his game he's not as impactful in playing in a new style and a new way to try and protect himself so I'M GONNA end up with a quarterback who if if he maybe in the third or fourth round so we can stockpile our team so that when we play this way we know school but these guys become more position players as opposed has to play a certain way for us to win games playing that way is gonNA put him in harm's way and I don't know he could be heard it could be one game two games a year you don't know when that time is coming but it's coming we're GonNa make him do something where he's not totally comfortable and hasn't been as effective and impactful any payment bunch of money so in my opinion there is pressure on Cam of it okay so that's the thing because I do think like what Tom Brady and drew brees and even Rothlisburger and rivers have done they've kinda seduced this the franchise quarterbacks or we saying a Lamar Jackson when you get older we're going to then ask you to change your style which isn't necessarily play to your strength well I look there's so many of these quarterbacks we see playing in their mid to late thirties that have been able to get multiple contracts. I don't know that we're going to get to that point in time okay so let's I mean we were way often this is about a nine ten year window to play this way and and I think he will get paid in line with some of those other premier quarterbacks on his next contract I just don't Lamar Jackson let's say like when you take a Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens are all and they said that they believe they can re- revolutionized the way that teams draft evaluating builder I position when we're trying to build a championship team each and every year I think that look for a long time we saw quarterbacks once they got into early thirties fell off thinking like the quarterback position has to be fifteen to twenty year position and I just wondered is at the right way to kind of think about the quarterback I think lamarcus throw it better than a lot of the dual threat quarterbacks come out your after your I think he's more advanced passer in the hope for me is that he's he's running and scrambling and if you value him at a lesser note does that mean every other year that we need to go and try and find a lesser version Lamar Jackson GonNa continue to grow and advance in that area or you end up having a situation where you Russell Wilson early on is isn't it moving around a little bit more than he is later in his career you're hoping is going to and there aren't quite as many for them to stay with them okay so I think that is a very valid point so I'm ago and I will say this because I think this will also pertain cliff and we saw their level play can just drop in a big way and now with the way these guys take care of their bodies these guys play from the pocket so they've been able to preserve themselves culture that you know also well we should be producing more talented quarterbacks colleges or thrown it more than they ever have so if the college game can keep giving you supply Vance I personally I'd like to Lamar Jackson's agent for his second contract that would not be as agent for his third because I think he is I think they will look at it and say we're just fascinated by this conversation so let's say that like say the now when we look at these athletes quarterbacks because Cam Newton is in year ten maybe I think he's in year ten on that but I don't I don't think there's anything wrong it's all going to be about what the College Games giving you you know with with the seven on seven culture the elite eleven teams in this vein so let's say Lamar Jackson as your quarterback and you're gonNA have to pay Lamar Jackson do you pay Lamar Jackson invaluable more Jackson like you value a Jerry Goff to me it has all to do with the supply that the college games giving you and I think you'll see teams because of the financial situation that could change in the next CBA but as it is right now position if they're not brady breeze rogers man is killing us like just imagine because we've seen this and and this is kind of relevant mark or yoga and Jameis Winston. Both of these franchises likely have to move on from that because the prospect of paying we'll call it an average quarterback twenty locker room when everyone is looking over saying this isn't even our best player and we're paying him to carry the French I just think it's hard I think the guy who has to me there's GonNa be for lack of a better phrase you're not going to have a gun to your head to continue to sign these quarterbacks into their mid thirties because there's going to be more coming down the pipeline but that's honey I'm surprised that we haven't heard a general manager going record and say that like hey look man this disposition because the money that we're we're sinking into the quarterback save that for for Thursday show But I do want to talk about off the radar head coaching candidates because I was thinking about this one of these names came up in a conversation the other day and then around Sean Payton who is Sean Payton tight with bill parcells he's a parcells disciple who's who is one of the main voices that all these I've got to okay all right ready how about we've seen cliff Kingsbury get fired as a college coach hired as a coordinator but off the radar like that would cliff Kingsbury esque were I think we would raise an eyebrow and go whoa hey never thought about that mater in the NFL but we have seen this league is obsessed with bright young offensive minds and it's about being around the right People Sean mcvay Doug Peterson in terms of the way the ball comes out Joe Brady is a very interesting candidate because you talked about the Sean Payton Connection who he's been touched by I do believe it could be a better long-term model to go that route as opposed to a man we just going to continue to pay to quarterback and just pay average quarterbacks a bunch of money to to hold I financially beneficial to try and use them up for that maybe give him that second contract you get to that nine ten year mark and then let's flip it over let's get no cheap one you know it is there but you know what owners go to when they're trying to get names for coaches bill parcells I'm just telling you there's somebody in nfl say he this system works it works at the NFL although we see it with the saints he's obviously completely transformed Lsu's team now we gotta make sure we pair them up with an experienced veteran defensive accord he place holders they might be having that discussion publicly but I guarantee you there haven't been privately and it's going to see who has the courage to be the first one to move on govern Sean Payton's one of those bright minds this guy's calling plays doing a phenomenal job so he's got scheme he's come from good culture that to me is or scramble to have a coordinator who has the knowledge of man whatever you give me a quarterback I can figure out a way to build an offense that so the courage to be like oh we're not paying like we're we're we're just move on we're just continued to cycle these out of course you're coaching has to be able to deal with a young quarterback and get them ready to play it's in Geo Brady the way he's turned around that Lsu offense now if you think about it Joe Brady or did he come from book before we went to Lsu coach at Mississippi state while he was at Penn state so he is seeing this Arpaio game and how to get your top running back off how to take your quarterback and a bit off the Raider I think people would say well what in the world how did that how did he go from coordinator Lsu to head coach in the NFL. I think that's where the future is headed man I really do I don't think that I came up with the other one but we kind of know who the names are you know who the coordinators are in the NFL the hot coordinators guys that have been head coaches before McCarthy's out there elevate is game that is something and you're right looks around him with the right defense coordinator and and that's a mandate is a terrific name in Utah no one has talked about him what he's Albertini Bridgewater that is a terrific guy to kind of be close to but also job brady was next to Joe Moorhead who was five thirty million dollars just because they take the snap how do you do you can't do that you can't do that well how how do you do it not only just looking at books how do you do in the morale and the USC and

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10 Takeaways from Week 16

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

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10 Takeaways from Week 16

"And now move the sticks. Ken Takeaways from week. Sixteen with Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks and read Louis. What's up everybody? Welcome to move the six presented by Aarp lucky redback with you a little takeaway podcast boys as a couple days before Christmas. It is before we get to the takeaways block. I need to ask you. Are you done with your shopping. My friend no not at all. I normally don't get started until Christmas Eve so I'm on I'm right I'm right on track. I kind of like to deal with the madness in the chaos of it also. I'll still got another day. I got another twenty four hours to make sure I get everything done. I'll get it done. Yeah I mean. We're basically sending on New Year's New Year's cards for Christmas so we were behind in the Christmas card game so everything is just kind of fallen a few steps steps behind here but yeah it. It's a little delayed. I'll say that first year of my life. I finished my Christmas shopping shopping done. I mean this is like three weeks ago boys three weeks. I've got all this time on my hands. Yes yes you are big black Friday myself on a little trip. I was what I would. No I was with my daughter and a little college visit and we had a little time before flight before we were gonNA come home and I said let's hit them all. Hit them all in the middle of the day there was nobody there Bing Bang boom done look this curve tag. Goals right died so we tend takeaways the eleven takeaways. You guys have a lot of shopping left to do but I'll start off with our our first takeaway here and that's the game I attended and the big takeaway there. Hey somehow some way the I got to say this right. The Oakland Raiders. Soon to be Las Vegas Raiders. Were still alive can take this opening drive in the second half into the end zone. Washy you did them. Fresh back touch zone touchdown readers opening drive third quarter staying alive. That's the theme. Today and raiders are staying alive so far all four other things that had to happen today happen to now. The raiders win this and they'll go to Denver mark with a chance to be succeed in the AFC. Wow Oh there you go brent musburger. He said it best. They're staying alive by the. Oh I got a chance to meet Brent Musburger for the first time nice gentleman so that was Kinda cool up there in the in the press box item on our Our pregame show their guys this game to me. Was Line of scrimmage game game and the raiders controlled the line of scrimmage. They run the ball a little bit. The chargers could not get any run game established whatsoever and the chargers decided they were gonNA play a lot of soft zone and and that was Christmas camp come early Derek Carr because he took one check down after another and move the ball right down the field You look at his drive thirty pretty. Yeah long drive to six yards at the time I mean just taking those all spot routes flat routes just one after another after another after another and they rack crackup some yards after catch and that was pretty much it. The chargers could not get anything going offensively. But Cleveland feral. He has one sack against the rest of the league this this year. He's got three and a half against the chargers. Joyce plan the bolts. Dj's funny you talked about the Ding Dong game. Derek Carr was excel excelling in when you look at the rate as office. Jon Gruden this is actually how he wants to play even though there's kind of this reputation that kind of precedes him about about being like this high powered offensive mind. He is really wants to run the ball. He wants having efficient passing game and he wants to control the ball and retain possession. And just were you out over time. I felt like this was a kind of game that embodied who he wants to rate is to be this year and going forward so you were talking about the the four things or Musburger was talking about the four things that needed to happen. In addition to the raiders winning over the chargers they needed Tennessee to lose check. They need Pittsburgh Berg to lose to the jets check. They need Cleveland. WHO's the ravens check? They need Jacksonville to lose to Atlanta Chit Chit Chat check now. There's still a few things things that need to happen. Let's just for the sake of being thorough run through that. Tennessee has to lose to Houston in week. Seventeen is that going to happen okay. Maybe let's see Pittsburgh needs to lose Baltimore. Rg Three quarterback and RG. Three right. Right okay it could happen INDIANAP- Baltimore still beat him. Okay Indianapolis needs to beat Jacksonville. Based on the way the team played in week sixteen. You'd say give the colts that one. Okay Oakland that needs to win in Denver. That's no given either Denver's defense has been playing well. And then because of strength of victory victory one of the following four things need to happen either the the lines need to beat the packers or tie them this. Having the a bears need to beat the Vikings or tie them This to the Patriots the Patriots need to beat the dolphins in Foxborough. Borough just happened that well I just wanted owned as a drama drama them on also. The chargers could beat or tie the chiefs if you want. Dj If you wanted to leave without one chiefs yeah so it'd be pretty cool but if you're rolling one right now. I don't see that happening. All of that is very doable. For the raiders which is kind of fun heading into week. Seventeen very doable man. Maybe pull out my old raiders t shirt because it into the play. Let's let's go biles like it. Sounds like it all right. It was funny. That's great it was a it was a fun fun. visit with Mayock by the way before the game and then take him at halftime techs after the ball game though and he said like I think he was like somehow some way still alive still ticking live to see another day here so I love it good for them. All right. Let's get to the next takeaway book. Patriots are revealed their playoff identity fourth and goal for the teen. The which is coming Allen running for his life lobster the back of the end zone. A man there and expect down it could bleep. KC Jackson breaks it up with a quarter of the end zone knocking it away from whole Beasley that should be enough to give it away. England patriots straight. AFC STEIDL man. The Patriots just continue to amaze me the way they kind of changed their identity Particularly to any you're going into the postseason They figured out that they need to run the ball Sony. Michelle was a major factor actor in this game against Buffalo. You almost have one hundred yards. You see him get twenty plus carries you see rex. burkhead come in and chip in a little bit and then in the passing game. It's either spread and shred with Tom. Brady way spreads amount empty formation. Ball comes out quick or they play action they take us down to feel this other pacers did it the year ago and it helped him win. The Super Bowl is the way they're going to do it this postseason because they know their defense their special teams will set them up for scoring opportunities Sunnis. They just know they need their offense to get to twenty four they get the twenty four points. I don't know if anyone is going to be able to beat them INFO sees boys. I I look look at it. I put together a little a little checklist here for the Patriots to win Games in the postseason with their current roster and the way they play Here we go New England run game as Bucky mentioned efficient efficient quick game sprinkle in trick play. That's coming at some point in time. They're going to win the turnover battle because they're going to protect it. They're going to try and take it away and then they're going GonNa have one impact special teams play. That might be a blocked. Kick Mukubi along return but just one impact play on special teams. And that's a checklist and they're pretty good about it man when they know they're formula and how they need to do it. They're pretty efficient getting that done. It's not easy on the eyes Rhett but they still have a former. They could march right back to the super. Both there's still not a ton of trust from Brady would seem outside battlement in the running backs but he's probably I mean it's for good reason it's probably their their best way. Their best path to victory on offense was watching a guy. Mike Giardi. You've taken a look at the game and you know Kinda the buggies points in time to throw the ball down the feel more than twenty yards in this game but the efficient short pass game the run game commitment. The big plays on defense. I mean if we've seen this type of game from the Patriots let's say from week ten to week. Sixteen which we really didn't I mean. Would there be as much doubt as there had been about the Patriots in the in recent weeks or does this not feel like the last four Super Bowl teams that they've lined up with to me. I think this is one thing. There was interesting to notice The commitment that you saw on the outside with the wide receivers in the blocking game you saw a couple times NICO- Harry get into with Davies Davies white and to me it can signify that okay. The Patriots are beginning to get their their postseason game face on the intensity the way they've finished the annoyance that you saw on the outside this is how the Patriots do it and so I'm a little worried if I'm the rest of the AFC the Patriots will have a by and they will only need two games to get to the Super Bowl. And that's a narrow it is. It's hard to envision them being put out before they get to the final game. Well we'll see what happens. This is a team that I know with all their experience. Head coach in the quarterback. I don't think anybody's too excited to play against the what's the number three takeaway. Well the young quarterbacks x are going to make the next decade of NFC East football exciting thirty Gold Shotgun Barclay. Paul's out signal takes the snap back to throw hooks winning. Over time second touchdown cat. For Joe Spiff touchdown down past in the ball game giants winning in overtime. Forty one thirty five so look let's leave back in Carson out of it here for or just a minute and focusing on that giants and Redskins game which not a ton of people did on a week sixteen Sunday with nothing on the line. But let's talk about Dwayne Haskins skin. Daniel Jones the future is on display here and with Daniel Jones in New York. It's bright man. I mean Guy Kid threw five touchdowns in. It's clear that he's a better player in the giants. They're a better team. Would Saquon Barkley is rolling in win the offensive staff commits to getting saquon Barkley Rolling and continuing to keep him going. It's really amazing to see what that team can do on offense get. Nobody was really playing a whole lot of defense in this game had pinned for one of the highest scoring games of the day before we even started on game. Day Live yesterday and didn't let us down but on the other side. How much do you love the steady improvement? Even if it's been a little methodical from Dwayne Haskins skin since he took over as started look. It wasn't pretty early but we're going to give him credit. He stood in there make some throws in. He's also showcased a little bit from time to time of some pocket mobility and some pocket pocket awareness there in look. It's just another piece of the process here in and then from Daniel Jones as well he started hot hitter Rut. Now he's GonNa work out of that as he's returned from injury and so with. This is another piece of evidence towards the thought process of play. You're young quarterback because because his best learning opportunities come on the field in real game situations than they do by sitting on the sidelines and learning. I feel like that's what these guys are telling us here. And and there's I think there's just a ton to build on with each of these guys and I was GonNa say let's go ahead and throw in the fact that you've got to top ten quarterbacks already in the division with less than four years of experience and Dak Prescott in Carson Wentz and there's no way we're GONNA see seven lost team win this division in the future but the cowboys and Eagles can't figure it out with Daqing Carson and and there's a good chance that these teams beat up on each other a lot in the future as well but at least we're going to have some fun watching these games. Well I look at it and you know the funny thing is offensively. Look at the redskins. It's the Ohio state connection right. You've got Haskins to McLaren the two exciting rookies. They know each other very well but man they've got got they've got to fix a defense and good thing for them. You get some offense to production out of your young quarterback you got some excitement there you still lose the game which is even better because you can go grab their teammate chase. Young with the second overall pick and let him be Kinda. The focal point trying to fix. This defense is a defense litter with Alabama players. They're getting ready to go. Get a Buckeye here. I can promise I promise you that this defense up but to to wrest point about the quarterback play in the NFC east. You have to be excited about it If I'm a giants Fisher have to be excited. Sided the prospect of pairing saquon Barkley with Daniel Jones for the long-term now fixed offensive line as more weapons on the outside. This offense can pop The the deciding factor for all of these teams going forward who can build a better defense who can build the best defense in the division that is ultimately going to be the team to kind of Lords over the division. But for the young quarterbacks excited about them all they've all have shown flashes of Brilliance Haskins Jones have been so surprising surprising. Probably suprisingly impressive and I think you have to feel good about. Both of their prospects would be a really good player going forward. Now what do you got next book. Carson wentz is a magician went bowling football whence comes back goes to sanders. He's ahead he's long. ooh Any slides escape engaged but this cables over staggers. There's quite a quality one. Consort the buses these ray we. We've talked about this repeatedly on path to the draft and other shows where a franchise quarterback taken in the top five is supposed to pre pour rabbits out of hats. What Carson Wentz did against the Dallas cowboys? He pulled a couple of rabbits out of the head because he was forced to play with one wide. Receiver a bunch of practice. Squad guys us the number two tied in and a rookie running back mouth since he was able to move this office up and down the field and inefficient visteon manner and so people are taking shots at people have said like A. We don't know this is the biggest game I think in that environment on this stage. Kinda the dillon with what he was dealing with. I think now more than ever if I'm the Philadelphia Eagles. I feel great about my franchise quarterback because he delivered any delivered in a magical way. Here's my analogy here guys When you have a young quarterback Buck we've talked about this for a long time having a young quarterback surrounding him with some veterans? When you have Sean Geoffrey you have some veteran guys around him? That is Deccan service like the training wheels. And what a training wheels do keep you from falling over and the help you get started in and kind of start that path but eventually if you want that bike to go at optimum speed I think you take the training wheels off and I think what we've seen here is when you get rid of it due to injury. A lot of these veteran voices are all gone. There's no Alshon Jeffery in his year. You know Nelson Agla Sean Jackson. This is just a bunch of young kids so what does that mean that means I'm Carson Wentz. I just worry about who's open in my ear. Tell me where I need to try and focus the ball the trust shifts from being on the players around him to being in him. And I think we've seen it with Russell Wilson. Look at how they ch they changed over that roster nope marshawn lynch all those veteran guys lonely started from scratch and all these well. Yeah apparently maybe coming back doc. But but at this point in time Russell Wilson a chance to grow. He became that guy with a bunch of young guys. And you saw him just kind of take that next leap. I think we're seeing Z.. And that is with Carson Wentz. And that's why I think this off season out with the old in with the new young speed talent around him and let Carson Wentz really be the captain of this ship ship. Sounds like that might be a complete overhaul at the wide receiver spot. But there's a good article in the Philly enquirer talking about Carson's interactions with his teammates. That after all of the reports suggesting testing that some of those interactions weren't always positive in that some teammates. Some voices inside that locker room were always pleased with how Carson went about his business but there were quotes in there from Jericho. James Whiteside from young players from veterans like Brandon Brooks as well talking about observing Carson interactions with players not only at the top of the roster but at the bottom. How always always treated Greg Ward? Just like he was in all Sean Jeffrey or a Nelson Galore or does Shawn Jackson. And this is the guy who's been on and off the roster and the practice squad sixteen in times since two thousand seventeen talking about Greg Ward how he was part of the crew that went to the seventy sixers game when Carson invited everybody little things like that that seemed to have taken hold now have halted some of those kind of questionable narratives that we had begun to see. And how those guys on the practice squad or part of that whole group that Carson brought down to Houston in the off season to train because he had made a concerted effort to work on his relationships ships with his teammates. Not just the ones at the top of the roster at the bottom and the last piece of it was on him and I thought this quote from Malcolm Jenkins was pretty important as well Malcolm said this I think at this is pointing year. He's trusting more guys to make more plays. I don't think he's trying to take it all on himself. Which says a lot considering he's out there and it sure sounds like the franchise quarterback we felt the Philadelphia? Eagles were getting when we're projecting him and when we were talking about him after the draft. So I think that's interesting as well. Well it's interesting to read I believe The two most important things in a team in terms of building a championship team trust and communication and what Carson Wentz has shown and demonstrated this year. He's definitely communicating with those guys. And I think it is really early and Dj knows stories that we used to hear when after you've been drafted the next they were thinking about going to get guys and he was on the road throw into everybody trying to develop these relationships with prospects before they even became eagle. So look what he's doing. We're practice squad guys. This is very comfortable to him. And because the young guys cow the they may look to him with reverence because he has the franchise quarterback is a different different standing one where he earns respect maybe to respect that he wasn't given from those veterans. I think this works out. I think this works out really really well for the eagles. Not only this this year but going forward because when they dismiss all those Oguz and a young guys come up it is a different ballgame Carson Wentz because now they're really locked in a connected last thing I think this team's going to go far. Go Ahead I. I don't think read. I don't think this team is going to be a real threat. And they had a chance to win a home game they maybe Seattle comes comes in there and beat up Seattle team. They get in the postseason they get through that first round. But this this is about the future and the development of Carson wentz going going out at a positive on and it's positive and that's encouraging on on the not so positive side. We gotta hit the cowboys here briefly. Look I think among other things Place election again will be something that's going to be talked about in this game. You know Ezekiel Gil Elliott again carries it just thirteen times but Amari Cooper not on the field for the final final heave Ho from Dak Prescott another another thing. I know. Dj You didn't. You didn't mind the play call there. It just didn't work out for them. But Cooper was frustrated with. I guess you could draw the conclusion as the scheme. Considering the away Philly was playing he had this to say to be honest. It wasn't anything to do with the chemistry or anything or Dacic Limited practice reps the way the eagles. DB's were playing the particular routes we were running for example in one of the routes. It was a curl I beat him. At the line of scrimmage and he was just sitting there under me when I had to turn around obviously in a girl you have to stop and he was right there we could have run more for deep routes. I feel like the goal ball was a good route to run tonight. But we didn't really get to. You know look that's just where the cowboys all right now. We're again talking about this and it's been a narrative all season long been a narrative podcast. It is but it is disappointing. I will say this to coach. The cowboys is broken. Broke and it needs to be fixed a couple of things. You can't have your star players sitting on the sideline As some of the choices were them by choice yeah tap it out asking the game in critical situations that can happen and then embiid games. Your biggest flaws are exposed. The cowboys Lack of coaching their lack of. Maybe maybe schematic ingenuity showed up. This is a game that they dallas cowboys should absolutely one based on who was available. This isn't a diamond on the coaching coaching staff. And what. They didn't get done all right. Let's move on here This one is going to be a quick one here. It's a simple one Cincinnati bengals officially on the clock. Wait faked Edward's e layer berle touchdown jomar tastes thirty three yard touchdown a pass for the Tigers. Well look it's going to be a decision for them to make we've talked about it already. But it's going to be joe borough versus chase young. We're GONNA have all spring. Bring to debate that so. I'm not going to do that right now but I do think it does. Provide some clarity there at the very top of the board and the one thing I would just say on Joe Borough and we can kind of move onto this jazz takeaway here. Well hold on a second I would say no. I want this real quick because we got to catch up but number one with with the Joe Borough. He's as eight different personality. If you go back Carson Palmer the quarterback this team for a very long time. Andy Dalton quarterback this team for a very long time. Both guys is a little more quiet. A little more reserved Joe Borough. I thinks God a little more fire in him now. Not taking anything away from those two quarterbacks to good quarterback Carson for awhile while great quarterback pro bowl quarterback but this is this will be a different personality for them at that position. Look all right. I won't spend a ton of time on it but I think Pick at thirty three. We'll be just as interesting really as as number one because this isn't a this is not a terrible roster. I mean if you just if you if you wanted for see I get healthy I get I get healthy. Let let's just say it depends on how you feel about Billy Sims and about Michael Jordan. up there on the offensive line Joan Williams. Maybe cordy Glenn comes back. It's not an awful group. They're Nixon running back recent. Aj Green Tyler boys a really good number two and then on Defense Geno Atkins has been as good as they come in the interior couple. Good cornerbacks there and you guys like Jessie Bates coming out. There there's some There's some pieces there. Same Hubbard's been ice player for them as well along the defensive line you know it could be. This could be a really fun draft not just at the very top but throughout for the Cincinnati Sanada Bangles. And then I'll say my piece all right. I'm okay with that. I think the biggest thing is you gotta make sure that you have to coach in place de can get everything out of their staff and I the thing that will be the biggest thing that they have to figure out. He's going to be there for a while because they believe in stability. I just wanted to Zack. Taylor can elevate the squad Without everything be imperfect that remains to be seen our guy snuck one draft and therefore you can get us back on track track The Ravens keep taking care of business. Empty Backfield Jackson out of the shotgun for opiates pressure. Coming Jackson hit lobs. To the end zone touchdown yeah Mark Andrews ad-lib to perfection from Jackson to ask drew and the Ravens Converts in a final minute of the opening half. This is a big game for the Baltimore Ravens because I thought this was a game that was going to test their maturity s title contenders Dade reeled off ten straight pride of this game they they get in and they're not playing their best game like they're having a tough time to struggling with the browns but at the end of the first half you saw them kind of pop a little bit. He's all the Mark Jackson. Make a couple of plays as you saw why he is. The ultimate three quarterback in the game look finished with three passing touchdowns he had one hundred yards rushing to thirty eight and this just the Lamar Jackson experience. Z. is a dynamic playmaker. And other. He's one of the. I mean he may be the main reasons why you can't discount them in any game because at any point he can make something happen and that is just something that the Baltimore Ravens can always hang their hat on. I got a quick win here. Dj and it's just the indictment on the browns men in the final ninety seconds of the first half the game completely flip the Ravens scored twice and the game was essentially over at that point. You allowed the Ravens to get into their rushing attack and just crush you in the second half. I know they tried to make a run at it but this game was over by the time they all ran into the locker room at the break and they came back out and the browns really didn't have a shot. The Fan the interesting thing to me. The browns six nine that is not a six and nine roster that that is at minimum a nine and six roster you could flip around with talent that they have there it just has not worked out form warm. The two things that stood out to me watching this tape Lamar's vision as a passer really seeing the full field and they have they have mismatches in the get your is you get your is in the wrong spot. Because they do so much offensively and then you're going to see guys running free and he finds them it doesn't matter starts on the right side of the field if they bust on the left side I don the far left side. He's being able to work all the way through progression seeing the whole field. And he's throwing the ball really well. So those are the things that stood out to me with Lamar and the other thing is just schematically book. I've never seen it happen so often. Where you see big is blocking little guys because you gotta get little guys on the field that match up with the speed and then you end up with Hayden hearst on the front side blocking Dinsdale award? I mean that's all I tweeted out. I still want to go over to the stadium and see if he's still blocking him. Because I mean it's just like Denzel Wards Fall to me is one hundred an eight pound corner. He's got a two hundred sixty pound tight end. I mean it's it's just a match ups they find a way to create in the past game and the run game. Yeah I think the best thing to happen to the Baltimore Ravens. It's actually. Was the charger game in the playoffs. A season ago because everyone thought that they could copy whether charges here but putting all those little. DB's on the field and what the Baltimore Ravens have discovered is look big versus little always an advantage at every point the twelve or thirteen personnel packages with two and three tight ends works for them. Then you add in a little option football then you add in the most explosive athlete and football player quarterback. It is just a handful. I wonder how long they can sustain the high level of play because they didn't get a bye Week in the postseason but right now there is good as it gets when it comes to being a complete team. All right I'll get us to our next takeaway here. And that is regards to the saints. If this was a sign of things to come for Alvin Kamara than the other. NFC contenders or a whole lot of trouble. Breeze under center here is going to get the snap on August twenty five twenty off to the Isis taught touchdown forty yards for Alvin. Kamara Camaro play that we've been missing out of hate. Okay with respect to Michael Thomas and we'll get there who to no one's surprise broke. Marvin Harrison arison single season receptions record sits at one forty five had a touchdown to boot in that game as well. Congratulations to Mike Thomas. But I need to get to this point here on Kamera because my friends friends back home in New Orleans are irrational saints. Fans they start comparing Alvin. Kamera's career that of Mario Bates his career who the second round on draft pick of the saints back in the Mid Ninety Day so who. He was first famous by the way for having his jaw. Broken by fellow teammate. Lorenzo Neal he then had one huge huge game against the Falcons back in ninety four and was anointed as the second coming of. I don't know at that point. Saints hadn't really had a great. It may George George Rogers George Rogers maybe so and then never really panned out. He was gone in New Orleans after three or four years. So here's the thing Alvin. Kamara hadn't scored a touchdown until yesterday since September. He scored two yesterday. One of the forty yard run and we started to see some of that explosion back and some that commitment getting him involved in the game plan where the saints have been rolling and they had really been counting or relying on camera like they had been in the past. I mean the guy had fourteen touchdowns a year ago just on the ground eighteen total so to see him only with three this year at one point. He's like Whoa. Whoa what's going on but now that spells trouble the me for the rest of the NFC playoff field? If you know that Michael Thomas is going to get his ten for one thirty five. In maybe a touchdown now you gotta deal with Kamera again in the backfield and in those matchup situations that Sean Payton can present so I thought that this was really really interesting. Game for the saints against the Titans here to find Alvin Kamera's groove thankfully. My friends didn't cut him from the saints Earlier in the season when they were so frustrated so look. I thought that's really interesting. You I do think is interesting about advocate. More finding his rhythm. I think he's the look. Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara and drew brees. They are basically the saints offense and everything kind of springs from them the fact that he finally put the ball in the pain. I think that bose will he has to be a big factor on offense. I think he has to be even bigger in the running game so they have their balance that they need so they can throw us to play action. Part of it that makes drew brees very dangerous as well. Well all right. I'll keep it moving here. Let's get to number eight on the takeaway list. Look I love the three. As much as everybody else I love a good dunk but sometimes you nice mid range game. And that's what Patrick Mahomes. I'm sure he had done in five for the change of the twelve. The bears no score big roughly outside the home full scramble. He's the town. Turn granted in from twelve yards a touchdown on their first drive of the game that was a third and five touchdown run four mahomes and showing again. He could make some plays with his legs. We've seen that throughout the year this year but to me the bigger takeaway when you study this game is the bears. PUT The free safety buck in the parking lot. I mean he was forty yards down the field they were. They were determined not to let the ball sale. Od Balls so when you watch this game. But they did not have A. They didn't have a player over twenty yards. They did not have a completion over twenty yards in this game which is not something. We're accustomed to seeing from the chiefs but they foursome awesome. The bears forced them to see if mahomes would be patient. And he there he was. I mean he was just carving them up in the middle of the field dig dig after dig. We had some you know fourteen fifteen eighteen yard completions but he showed some patients and I thought that was key. Because you figure out teams trying to say okay. We're not going to give up those big chunks. Can they be methodical. And I thought that the chiefs chiefs showed in this game absolutely they can defend you talking about the NBA methodical on offense. I think the reason it works is you can be methodical offense. When you're getting great performance in production from your defense and lost in the pet mahomes thing and Travis Kill C. and Tyreek Hill has been a defense that is beginning to really really come on and what I like about what spags is doing with this defenses? They are being aggressive. But they're being very very sound and what they're doing they're bringing pressure they're creating turnovers the last two games they have held their point opponents to three points each. That is something that we're not accustomed to seeing it from the Kansas City chiefs if they this kind of defensive effort this gives them a chance to really be title contenders when you have to think about playing Baltimore. In New England to get to the title Game Look Mahomes. uh-huh counting to ten as he ran off the field. That's one of the touchdowns. Everything was trolling. Look that's probably exactly how every bears fan has felt this year especially in that game watching trubisky and Mahomes. Here's where he don't Fall Ryan Pace for the whole trubisky thing trading up from three to to to make sure you get the guy you've identified as your as the guy you want as your starting quarterback as your future franchise quarterback in the next ten to fifteen years. I guess I don't I don't care about the trade trade. If you really felt like your bisky was going to be that guy because you know I guess having the careers that we've seen from Watson and Mahomes make you go. Oh Gosh not only do we not getting them but we also traded up to get him. Well look if he had turned out to have the career Watson them homes wouldn't be talking about the trade but they just identified the wrong guy. I mean that's that's that's that's what it comes down to trade be darned right there and at least that's where all the evidence has pointed thus far and it's just it's tough if you're Patrick mahomes though. If you're Patrick Mahomes I I laugh. Those funny did then count the tend to do I would you really you really wanna go play anywhere else. I mean you went with Andy that tyreek Hill Travis. Kelsey one of the best offensive lines in an in a division. That's just kind of so so I mean that was well Collingsworth shop. Say He's having fun but you know I didn't think I think it's personal. The fact that he has to look across the field and no they Mitchell trubisky was picked ahead of him. Yeah this kind of where he was in his feelings a little bit. He just kinda showing off a little trouble. I don't mind that Nelson. It was all good all right. I'll get a store next takeaway here and that is the seahawks are heading in the wrong direction. Second and seven on the twenty one out of Seattle on December shotgun snap. Murray looking over the middle still has the ball in the pocket steps up to run and it dumps it off the left second but catch made by fits the fifteen even runs left to the ties. To the end zone touchdown Tyler Murray threw the ball about a four the head of a and Larry Fitzgerald stab debt. And then did the rest us with speed scoring a touchdown to give the cardinals. The lead way to go Larry Fitzgerald one of three active players named the NFL. One hundred all time team. But I gotTa talk about Chandler Taylor Jones in this game because actually play in a fantasy football league where we still use individual defensive players instead of teen. You're one of those championship game. I'm playing against Chandler Jones. I look up I sees ten fantasy points in the first quarter like what the world is going on. I could see that game and looking up at the end. He's got twenty five points. Four sacks six tackles a forced fumble should have had another force fumble. I mean look demarco. Jones fifth round out of Ohio State last last year. Tough game right going up against Chandler's boy. Did they Miss Dwayne Brown and look I know that Chris Carson went out with a hip injury sorry. Cj prosise went out with an arm injury but man you gotta figure out something left tackle right now because that may be the biggest problem especially now that we've seen maybe maybe marshawn lynch coming back into the fold here that played a big role in Dj just to further illustrate it. It hasn't it hasn't just been because dwayne Brown has been out Russell. Wilson was sacked five times in this game. That's still four time. That's happened since week. Ten for the seahawks that he's been sacked five times so clearly something's been brewing you with their pass protection. A lot of that too russ. Russell runs himself into some of those. He ran himself into two or three of those sacks in that game so Some of that falls was on him. I I will say George fant. They've used six lineman a bunch. I wouldn't be surprised if they go back and try and use that they use it a lot more last year. Believe in studying them last year. So we'll probably see some of that but buck. I know this is going to be right in your wheelhouse so up on this because watching this game Kenyan drake twenty four for a buck sixty six two touchdowns else so just think about this. The Miami Dolphins. They're four and eleven right buck. Let's say what if they had a pro bowl wide receiver. ooh Jarvis Landry traded. What if they had a pro bowl left tackle Tunsil who they traded? What if they had a pro bowl free safety Mika Fitzpatrick who they traded? What is that Kenyan drake? Who's doing what he's doing on average about five yards a carry and right now with the highest rated passer is a national football league? It's Ryan Tannehill. So the Miami Dolphins they've collected a lot of picks but they don't need to draft good players buck. They've got a draft pro bowl players to replace all these guys that they've traded away a it is funny when you say that. Dj because everyone is fascinated behind behind door number two but they let a lot of good players. Go and I mean for for for whatever reason It worked for them in Miami but look is not a shortage of Good players they had. I think this thing we Kenyan. Drake is really fascinating native. Because with David Johnson it hadn't necessarily popped in his offense. Kenyan drake comes in and has become a dominant player. He's a free agent in Nettie. You'll have they will have to pay him. It will be interesting to see how this plays out but Kenyan drake is explosive in data. My and I'll say this this about cliff gainsbourg cliff Kingsbury has quickly figured out the NFL game because what they're doing on offense is problematic and he doesn't even have have a level players did he will have when they began to acquire guys specifically for no doubt all right. What's what's number ten bucks? Forty niners office continue. You just throw Garoppolo in. John Kill was left. He moster to as Wright express the broncos all GonNa throw a deep shot down the ooh Nelson will snap. It was house be has a down Robbie thirty four thirty one thing you you have to evaluate the forty niners. Not when they have their a game but when they have kind of like a B. B. Plus game because this wasn't a vintage San Francisco Forty niners officer performance but when it mattered. This offense may place. Jimmy Garoppolo converted a couple of third lawn. Situation is dead he had no business converting long fast that you saw two menu sanders. I mean he's talking about a third seventy like why on earth would he ever be open on this rap. Lust man he busted flew too far to the outside of his deep. But I think they give you the forty dollars. You feel good able to win a game when you don't have your best you don't have your best offensive performance. Jimmy Garoppolo is not playing at an a level and and they're able to win makes them dangerous because when they needed it they got it and you have to think the Jimmy G. can deliver these performances again but it matters in the postseason. I don't know what the forty niners I I liked the forty niners in the NFC Rhett but to me that just a little cause concern again. Give up over three hundred yards couple touchdowns sounds either the back end of that defense a little bit man. That's that's scares me a little bit with this forty niners team but they can go somehow go on the road. SEATTLE AGAINST A depleted seahawks hawks team and get that done. They'll be sitting there with the number one seed and everything will go through them. Yeah I love Jimmy Garoppolo make some big plays at the ends of Games here that we've seen in the last the last couple of weeks especially down the saints game in this one the big throw look I get. Sanders was open. You still going to throw you still got to find him and hit him. I think that's that is something that the forty niners will be able to reach back into their pocket in the postseason in pull out or maybe here in week. Seventeen is we've got. Maybe the biggest game of the season coming down to the final game of the season game to fifty six wchs which will feature the niners and seahawks up in Seattle. Signed me up twice for that one when you think about building a championship chip culture. What does that entail? You know the Culture House as we built it's built on love date national champion. The greatest form of motivation automation is the Brotherhood. Little things like trust are huge. I think focuses a great word and then I think you have to find guys come from programs. That require them focused. It's about about making sure they have a great experience and that they win. But it's in that key. Word is being consistent caring. What about the players caring about not only football was clearly defined what the missions and communicated on a day-to-day basis for me? It's making sure that the players understand number one that you care. I had never felt I coached. I felt I coach like this damn not determined determined by the game of football determined by WHO wants to win. I hope you you really enjoyed listening to a a little. Taste there of this episode. We're putting together for next week. We've had a chance to talk to so many of the key leaders and coaches around the country and we've had a chance to talk talk to them about building a culture leadership and we got some fascinating answers during those conversations. While we've just we've just taken out the gold right buck. We found that year old. That was in there. And we've put it all together and that's going to be our episode December thirtieth next week. You're going to get a chance to hear the best of all that all that. Yeah Yeah. They're they're from those coaches. I think one million three hundred sixty nine combined winds of the coaches that Promo Zane cake. That is going to be a fun one so I hope you guys will check that out next week. In the meantime Merry Christmas Christmas. Happy Holidays to all of you out there. Thank you for for spending some time with us here on. move the sticks We do appreciate it. Wish you a wonderful wonderful holiday a season. That's going to do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening to move the sticks presented by AARP. Thanks for downloading move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah. bucky brooks can rent Lewis for more goto. NFL dot com slash podcast

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582. Mike Mayock on Challenges of Evaluating With No Preseason

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582. Mike Mayock on Challenges of Evaluating With No Preseason

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up? Everybody DJ Bucky back here move the sticks buck how you doing. Good. We're getting close like seasons around the corner we're seeing all these moves. Cut Weekend is coming. So everyone is getting down I think is beginning to really feel like the season's about the off and I'm excited about yeah it's great man we are. Knocking on the door of the regular season and it finally starting to feel like normal. But, now you're gonNA have kind of that final roster cutdown, which is something we see each and every year coleman the waiver wire. See if you can upgrade the back end of your roster, a lot of teams will be doing that without the convenience of having seen these guys in the in the pre season. This is a topic actually going to touch on with our guest today Mike Mayock, general manager, the Las Vegas. Raiders going to join US get a chance to talk to Mike about some of the unique challenges that you face this year and in this period of time. Trying to trying to build your roster, but it does doesn't it feel like what the start of the season is crazy as everything's been over the last six months in the world that? kind of normal right now, like we're kinda getting that build up. For first game. A do think it feels normal. What was weird DJ, without like having preseason games and so so many other things like my body clock is just thrown out of whack to think that is Labor Day weekend coming up I had no sense of all this weekend because we haven't gone through the normal things that we normally would go through and we go through all these preseason games we were talking about college football. We see some college football kind of bubbling up and filtering out, and because of that we we just are off and so it would be great to get back into our normal routine with the NFL season in games and just kind of. Getting. Back to yeah and I think I'm allowed to announce us we are going to. Crank out our three podcasts a week like we've done during the fall in the past. So that's coming in and included in that is going to be our takeaway podcasts, which we will do Monday morning. After we've had a chance to watch the tape, we'll bring in our buddy. Lewis going to join us on that. So we can give you our takeaways from the. From the weekend and then and we'll get you to more podcasts throughout the week. So we also video show that's coming. So lots of six content coming your way you lost lousy mood sticks out so it should be fun. It should be exciting Let me and I'm excited just to see football I'm excited to see it. I got excited last weekend just watching the college game so I can't I can't even. Begin to fathom what I'm feel like. These NFL Games next we can I WANNA tease by the way, a I actually talked to you showed you the what the picture looks like. We've got to have some move. The six t shirts are going to be available for people that people been asked about that for a long time. So we finally got together with one of our buddies who's put together shirt for us able to get one of those it ended up turned out pretty good. So excited about that, but I want to get your thoughts. But before we get to mayock about a couple things that took place recently with running back, we had one a big time extension for the bengals. Joe Mixon, we had one who was cut and then has since already been signed and Leonard Fournette going staying in the state of Florida going from the Jags to the bucks just to your thoughts on those two moves. Yes. Was Interested in the the Joe Mixing Live for net conversation is one that is probably unique in terms of when you go look at these guys like to run bax headed in opposite directions but when you look at their numbers to nearly identical. Joe Mason has twenty nine, hundred rushing yards Leonard. Fournette has a little over twenty five hundred both, F two thousand Euro seasons, and and when when you look at them, they were candidate engines of their respective offices at their place. I think the difference is when I look at dinner for net like going all the way back Dj and I think is important for evaluators to do this. So, much of what can trap US and get us in trouble is falling in love with the name and really not closely scrutinizing the game. It was really easy to fall in love with Leonard. fournette very early at Lsu, because his sophomore season was spectacular nine, thousand, nine, hundred yards, twenty, two touchdowns when you turned on the tape, you saw him just running through everybody. He was everything that you wanted to see as an old school down here running back. However injuries lower body injuries either get up really believed like they've kind of taken their toll into running back in the national football league is still one that is very solid. One that can be a starter. But when you take someone at number four, overall you looking for specialness you looking for like someone who has the secret sauce and I can say he was very good last year I don't care what the number eleven hundred. Yards rushing seventy six catches out of the backfield litter for knit improved on areas that people have talked about. But you still didn't get the special quality that you look for whereas when I look at Joe Mixing Joe Mixing to me is a prototypical three. Now running back to everybody wants he's big he's fast he's physical his elusive he runs with power. He catches the ball out of the Backfield to me he is the prototypical. Be One that you wanted today's game and I just think that it's interesting to see these guys because the number was say that they're very similar but what you to tape I. Think there are some differences into play. I've got a little formula here and I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. I'm giving this to you because I wanna see this in buddies notebook by the way every week checkout notebook, NFL dot com slash bucky Brooks it's the most comprehensive. It's the best thing that you can take to get you kind of a full full image of what's going on. In the football world so this is free of charge book. If we look at running backs in these two prisons. Okay. Let's start with as runners. I as a play caller I, get you this much. Now what are you get me? Okay. So I get you get me I get you four yards with the design of the play. You get me what you do after the yards. I gave you so that to me and again once we I lay this out in the run game. In the past game, we can start running running backs through this through this formula. So I get you you get me that's Formula One. Formula Two in the past game. Are you the last option or are you the first option So are is everything taken away and okay I can dump it off to Leonard Fournette, and he's GonNa give me my six yards because everything else has been taken away or my designing offense to put winner for out in the route, and that is my first option because that's what you do with Alvin Kamara that's what you do at. Christian McCaffrey that's what you do a job Nixon. That's not to me Leonard Fournette. So when I look at what happened four net, he's getting yards that we're giving him. He's not giving me a lot of extra based off of what he does on his own and then when the passing game yeah. He's a functional last option. He's not a first option. I'm not designing place Leonard Fournette, the passing game. No I think that is a great point and is one of those things that A. Couple years ago we entered. We interviewed to Real Davis Hall of fame running back from the Denver. broncos. We talked about that system and we were talking about the Shanahan system and he said look the Shannon hand system is great. I'm certainly a beneficiary but the difference between good and great NS system. The good as it gets you four is what you get after that point and when I look. At dinner for net, there's nothing that I see. Consistently we make someone miss he runs over somebody. He turns a four year game into a tenure again when I look at Joe Mixing all tape Joe Mixing routinely does that because he didn't play behind a great office a lot but his ability into whole stuff star quickness to elude evade sometimes overpower people it's shows up down. After down after down, and then what you said into passing game I think can't be understated. It is one thing to be the first option where you're cleaned aside and play ball because I know my running back and be your nickelback, your linebacker. It is another thing to make all your place of check downs. Linda for net is a check down option JOE MIXING IS A. Play maker in the passing game that is the difference, and that is something that goes beyond naked eye and beyond just studying the stats just think it's fascinating to me just because if you just take any running back and kind of put him through that formula, it cuts through WHO's blocking for it cuts through kind of who the play color is. They're just those guys. In the quarterback position, we've kind of we've nailed that down in terms of trucks and trailers. There's the trucks that pull the offense and there's a trailers to get pulled by the offense. You could still win with those. You can win with running backs you can win with the last option running back in the passing game. But man sure a lot more fun a lot easier to win when you've got first option running backs in the passing game he does and I will say this because if you are a last option passing game guy, you need to be someone that gets more as a runner so dirty. Derrick, Henry, that's why Eric is the event. If if I'm going to pay cool I noted Dirk is not going to give me anything in the passing game would then he needs to be a plus player in the running game, and so I'm willing to concede a we're not gonna be able to throw to him, but he is such a good runner that McKay being one. Dimensional because we have to be one-dimensional when he's in the Backfield Yep and that's exactly what I was thinking of when I was thinking about the difference between Leonard Fournette who got cut their Ken who got paid and the differences in that I call him as runners dare can get you a lot more than the plays designed and he just does and look I know some people are Gonna I've seen Leonard Fournette, pop an eighty yard run here there. Yeah. Those are those are outliers. He's had a couple of those big runs, but it's not it's ability to turn those threes and fours into tens and twelve and fifteen I haven't really seen that throughout his career. Because the game is really played in fifteen to twenty yard bucks, Dj like the guys that are able to chew of those templates, your runs, those especially ones because consistently they're able to help us move the chains and you're right we count on the office of line in the perimeter block is to be able to ensure that running back and get three to four years. After that, it's on, you re purposely people unblocked a Leonard to quarterback is your regal go dig out the safety is you want one on the corner we expect you to be able to knock down or to defeat a cornerback when you have opportunities if you're not unable to do those things. I mean, like you're not a special player and that's the difference special players able to do that and when you draft somebody number four overall I expect you do that because that's why we're taking otherwise one just followed the tree and and take another late round guy to plug him in because redraft the top five to be someone that is a difference maker, a high end player, the last visual I'll give you. The passing game portion of this as look there's you're going to go to lunch with a friend. You've got the guy who you call first that's you WanNa go with you have a nice time. He might even pick up the check at least we're going to go Dutch, and then by the time he does he can't go. Then you kind of work your way down you might get the fourth option. We're still going to go have lunch. You'll probably have a good time what my first choice. That's kind of the way. Look these running backs in the passing game. Yeah that's the way you look at it and I think the interesting thing and looking at the Tampa Bay buccaneers because Bruce. Arians has said it the store in job is Rojas Ron Jones job he he's going to be to start Shama McCoy there, and then you have litter for net. How does all of that Mesh together? How do you keep all of those guys engaged in happy and doing what it is that you want to do and when I go back and Look at Bruce Areas Office I haven't really seen him play much with the Dow. He'll sledgehammer running back. David Johnson who thrived under him was a guy that could do it in the past. gave us more of a first option player. So it's an interesting mix up to see how this goes and if areas and Brian lift which have the ability to package certain things to allow Tom. Brady and Linda for knit to be on the field and be successful in an office. That has synergy what you need Leonard Fournette to do. If you're the bucks as you need to go out there and get leads, and then he can be kind of your four minute back just just finish games out grind out the yards, eat the clock and let's get the heck out of here I mean to me that's that's going to be his most valuable role there for that group. Yeah. He has to be the legare blunt that Tom Brady played with in new. England a lot in ace two tight ends. ARE WE GONNA wind up in our goal line sets and we're GONNA kind run the game out because Tom Brady is very good. I'll play action. It is a way that they were able to manufacture production for him in New England We'll just see if Leonard Fournette is right fit and if the buccaneers have the office of line to be able to do what it is that it may be envisioning when it comes on. See I'm interested to see how that will come together. I'm just excited about I. Don't know about you. I'm so sick of previewing I can't wait to review. Let's watch some games. Let's watch some tape sue WHO's playing well, and then actually have some concrete analysis instead of we think this might happen. This could happen like let's actually see these guys on the grass and get a chance to talk about and it's right around the corner man? I'm about with speculation I'm ready to to do some real evaluation data is. What is it a little less compensation little ranch that's where we're headed. That's where we're headed I want anymore. All right. Let's get to our conversation. We had with Mike Mayock the general manager of the LAS. Vegas. Raiders out a phenomenal job in his first draft. Excited to see his second draft class on the field this year to see how they come together led by Henry Rugs. But it was a great chance to catch up with Mike and really kind of go through the challenges of of. Running team during a pandemic where you don't have OTAS and off season and preseason games, all those different things it was great to catch up with him. So here's conversation with with the raiders. General Manager Mike Mayock. Bike first of all, how you doing. We're hanging in there. It's different kind of world and I'm very appreciative to number one have job and number two to say my my family's healthy. So I think you have to start right care. Yeah. We look at what's going on Mike. I this is there's no. There's no training manual for for what you've been through as a young general manager when you looking at going through pandemic and the now what's going on in the country and what's going on in the sports world I'm just curious who who you've You've drawn farmer who relied on trying to trying to figure this thing out. There's a couple of things, DJ number one, the message basically from after the combine when we're told to go home. was as much as. Most people in the football world don't like change. We've done certain things for honor ears in football. But the message I had to my scouts in continue to have is embrace change. Let's figure it out. We'll even know for our scouts are going to be allowed on the road this fall at this point in I in every single day, we talk about it's uncomfortable, but you got to embrace it and you gotta figure out ways to get your job done, and there are no excuses in as long as all thirty two teams are. Under the same sets of rules we're full we're fine with it. Let's go. You know that's all that really matters to me is the competitive equity and the other thing is in other some guys around the league that I trust lank and maybe we're not playing them this year and we get on Wigan on the call and just talk what are you doing how you doing it? Is there a better way to to figure this thing out? A little bit of that network also. You might because is such a different training camp and preseason agreeing drink gamp no preseason games. How are you guys trying to determine who? The best fifty three, fifty, five guys on the team when you really not able to see them game like situations and Buck I think that's probably the best question. In today's environment in you know when you start talking about the generic conversation of what do preseason games really mean for NFL teams and you know you need four and what we're feeling right now and what all the people around the league that I'm talking with are feeling right now is it's not just about the rookies in the College Asians about some of those first and second year guys that you've tried to develop within your building that haven't had the benefit now of an off season and you're hoping about the take a step forward and he can't watch him cover a kick off or a punt. And I've got this thing in my head I always call the go Nogo Syndrome. Some guys go guys when you covered off, there's a certain point where. Inside you're either going. Going, yes or guy, and we want go guys and it's harder to figure out. Go guys. Unless you're willing to replicate that outra practice field and I think one of the things that codes Gruden has been great with over the last week is just the conversation with me about what do you need to see? Who Do you need to see Alcan? We put them in situation so we can evaluate them better and I think John and the coaching staff have been awesome. Just trying to orchestrate situation so we can evaluate. I'm curious Mike Talk about evaluate your own team. This is the time of year, normally evaluate the back end of other roster. So what is the process like this year when you don't have access to see them live game action outside of what may pop up on social media or what is he made post? It. You really got to trust your your scouts evaluations in reports, and what happens is that more than ever the Collagen the pro side or melted together during this training camp you know usually bring the college guys get extra is during games. Let them right across check report. At this point. We've what we're trying to do is filter in all of our programs on guys that have been in the league. College Grays on guys that haven't been in the league and how you stack up what you're really talking about is the bottom end of your roster, but we all know how important that is. So we're spending an awful lot of time trying to get the right stack right filter were forcing our college pro guys the to Meld together on zoom calls and I'm real happy with the way we're stacking things up and. You. Know you get to the five three and who knows what's going to happen but you better have. A confirmation in your head of if somebody comes available, we're GonNa take you don't Mike I I love talking to you because I know you son of a high school coach and I just wonder if some of Your Dad's expertise in terms of building a team from his high school days because you don't have all the luxuries and you have to figure it out and be adaptable. I wonder if some of those lessons that you learn from him have helped, you adjust to being able to put together a team doing the pandemic, which is unlike anything we've ever seen. That's a cool question in. I M, my father son and. You know I've played quarterback and safety in honor and everything else for him for four years in two things. I would take away from my dad I think to this day one is we were a small school. Okay and every almost everybody played both ways in we didn't have time. To get guys in freshman program in a JV program by junior year like big school mentality you know they're ready to go if a kid could play as a freshman or sophomore my dad was throwing his right in there. Let's go in. That's kind of way I feel about young guys in this league don't WanNa roll them. You don't want to put them in bad situations, but I want to trust that we did a good job scouting them in I wanna fromm in situations where we get a chance for them to. Compete early, and that's important today salary cap world. You've got to continue to churn roster and bring young guys in your trust. You know that's number one and the second thing is just what my dad has told me since I was about twenty five years old trust your I got a good i. you know you follow me around everywhere every minute of every day while you were growing up, you've watched high school you've watched college watch NFL at the end of the day if you're gonNA make a mistake making your mistake. In I think that's really good advice. When you talk about throwing young guys on the field, you got a couple young receivers. You just drafted the house excited about when you got him and it seems by all accounts that they're they're doing really well, what what have you seen this far from from rugs in Edwards on on the practice field. Dj It's kind of a two edged sword here. Okay. On one side were knock on wood. We feel like we are who they hoped. We hoped they would be. Flying around Nick Sabin. Told me point blank you don't you're not gonNA have a kid work harder. He comes to practice every day with a walk on mentality and he's tough. He's been at gonorrhea jammer. We've seen all that. We embrace that with words really good hands. Better Outrun people understand tough as nails throw the Alabama table and if you WANNA question anybody's toughness. But what I'm trying to tell them end all our local press and everybody else's is you know what they haven't gotten off press wants a game. They they haven't done anything yet. We're. We're going to sit there and anoint them. And we're GONNA make them work for everything we're cautiously optimistic but at the end of the day, all the rookies in my mind haven't done anything yet and we gotta to be real careful about Pat Boone on on Bob saying. You know it's funny because when you talk about those wide receivers, your quarterback Derek Carr has been really a few minutes phrase. But when I look at the quarterback position understand the value you have we've had these conversations about the informs you have to really good quarterbacks in that room and even though Derek the starter you've invested in terms of developing markets. Mario. Why was it so important for you guys to really have multiple quarterbacks that can play in this league and why are you so committed to developing both guys? I think if you want to be a good football team, there's an argument to we made that you're only as good as your backup quarterback. You're one snap away in you're putting everybody at risk if there's a drastic reduction in talent. Putting the whole franchise at risk. So we are believers endure are we've we think dirks taken another step with John? This year I love what he did with her in the off season. He had anywhere from fifteen to forty guys working out with them. Almost every day we had a big group of guys in Vegas and I think. What's important to me as a kind of confirmed who Derek is on our team that all these guys are flying in from around the country to work out together and I'm talking about offense and defense dirk was orchestrating seven on seven in. In the off season immature carris in that breeds a a certain confidence in Camaraderie that you guys are both familiar with. and. So I feel like Dirks taking that next step and I wanted to see. In we also felt like John and I had a of with Marcus Mariota because what we did when we were both in television, we had him ranked in all the reps and time we spent with him. So we kind of felt like he brings a little bit different style to the table. You know he's a little bit more of a guy can use his legs. Around you can run different zone read stuff with them. So you can do different things with with Marcus. So we kind of feel like not only we're getting quality guy come in and play dark it's hurt but he also brings a different dimension to our offense. Selfish Question Mike How's my Guy Jonathan Abram doing? I. Think he's chomping at the bit as you would expect. And I think that he he needs to become a really good football player for us this year and we're counting on. You know my most championship teams are built on, win the division I. Then worry about the other stuff when you built your team do you feel like you're close to build a team that can compete and contend with entertainment a division? Well I mean that's a veiled reference to the world. Champ. They're pretty good. You know we all us? No they're pretty darn good and we we recognize that and I. I'm not giving out any secrets when when I tell you. Our goal was to get faster and more athletic on both sides of the ball over the last couple of years and I think we have now whether or not we've closed any gaps on anybody. What I everybody in our building were seven nine. Four last year. We should be chirping about anything else of getting better winning every frigging snap win win winning every meeting get a tiny bit better. Make it a force multiplier by the end of the season and you know back when we go down a player old team in Carolina will find Alabama were about ourselves on September thirteenth but I don't know anything beyond that. Mike is the last question. I'll let you run the most important question How many how many buffets have you hidden Vegas since you've moved back? Whenever you tell me their. Question I. Be Honest with you I know how to get from my rental to the facility. Back The answer is zero and more importantly. You you're out of there in time to get to your teatime Daniel because it sound well, your work ethic is gone into. Well well, the unfortunately, it's my golf game that's gone in the pooper that that's that's the problem is I got to get out there today I'm Repertoire Guy Charles Davis today with with the Tennessee ball's t shirt. But I don't want that on the Gulf growth because I want to get laughed at case anybody watches football so. You need to put a collar on that if. You. Don't know the golf courses that I play that Mike. Hey man it's. It's great to catch up looking forward to seeing you this fall when when the raiders come out to Los Angeles. We'll catch up soon appreciate you a stay healthy with your families and it's always great to catch up. Good. Luck guys. Mubarak is great to catch up with Mike. That's That's a tough job in a normal year. I can't imagine the stress that comes along with trying to navigate through this entire pandemic that we've been in the middle of an as well as what's going on in the world from social social justice standpoint. I mean that is a lot to handle as leader does a Lotta Hannah's leader, but you know what I feel like He. Finally settled into the job, he certainly feels like he has command over the job and he has a clear vision for how he wants to operate as a general manager and that has been laid out in his ability to give direction to a scouse, his ability to kind of make some of these picks. Obviously, he's having to do it in conjunction with working with Jon. GRUDEN. But I, feel like this team Canada has his his his his stamp of approval. Meaning the things that used to theorize and talk about when we all work together I kind of believe, I see with the raiders and so is good to see people really stick to their guns when it comes to visit for how football should be played when you begin to see their team reflective vision. That is when you see good things happen. Yeah. Again, you don't WanNa make somebody else's mistakes you WanNa make mistakes. So you have a vision what what You want to look go on execute that, and then whatever happens happens I think he's done that do want to remind everybody inspired by the ongoing conversations with players. NFL. has launched the NFL votes to empower improve our communities through exercising the right to vote join the NFL family by registering to vote today and make your voice heard this November visit nfl dot com slash votes to learn more also on reminds you that the hard knocks podcast hosted by our Buddy, Peter Schrager you can catch the final episode of hard knocks TV show that is Tuesday September eighth at ten PM Eastern on Hbo Shrugs, Wonderful Job. With that podcast, get some great guests on there to kind of recap what's going on with the charges in with the rams as well as some other football insight there from our buddy pete. So you can find that wherever you listen to podcasts. Any other thoughts here buck for this thing up numb in. Dj, we're just one step closer one step closer to the regular season kicking off I am excited and looking forward to next week the I did see on Apple podcast we are getting close to I think two thousand. Reviews or ranking rating something on there. There's a milestone out there so I want to thank everybody that's done that for us that's gone and left us a review or rating on Apple podcasts and Again, let us know some ideas. You might have what we can do to serve you guys better and let us know again who the best high school football. Player you've ever seen. We got some great names on their need to update that we'll do that next week we'll update that high school players but I want to thank everybody for that. All right. That's GONNA do for us. Thank you guys so much for hanging with us He's Bucky Brooks I'm Donald Jeremiah. See next time right here on move the sticks.

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