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Kobe Bryant.

Clock Dodgers Podcast - Motivation | Fantasy Football | Comedy | Pop Culture

17:29 min | 6 months ago

Kobe Bryant.

"January twenty six twenty twenty started like any regular regular day divide didn't feel different incense nothing weird in the air woke up normally worked like normal but I came across a headline on my phone while a pitcher of coby Bryan on someone's instagram story. I didn't it didn't have any significance. I didn't understand why was there. It didn't matter. I just thought somebody was posting. Koby Bryant I then seen a headline from TMZ that said Kobe Bryant Laker Star had died in a helicopter accident in California and My mind couldn't process that that statement it didn't make sense. It didn't didn't seem real. I am I immediately went to twitter. CNN places. I look for news to be there quickly that I could trust as seen nothing except TMZ so my mind in and not being able to totally totally believe what I was reading from TMZ. I call my wife I said. Can you please check the news check. Check the Internet and tell me if you see anything about Kobe. Bryant Dan in a helicopter accident and she of course is you know. Shock doesn't understand what's happening but she's checking and she doesn't see anything other than the TMZ thing and you know. Hello Sir. People start to talk about it on twitter Other outlets news outlet start to report and so we come to grips with this idea that it has to be true. That what we're reading you know is not some hoax. It's not some false report. It's not some miss case of mistaken. Identity is real and you have this punched in the gut type. Feeling this This this this Situation like nine eleven or other tragic deaths. Yes where you know where you are the minute it happens. You won't ever forget the situation you were in And there's so much the process here. There's so much to unfold old. There's so much to you know. Appeal back on this and and it will continue to happen as the days go on the weeks. Go on the months go on the years. Go on We'll continue to know more more about why something like this happened How we feel about it? How we process they It is beautiful to see. All the people posting videos writing articles doing podcasts While tragic it's beautiful to see the impact Koby made the impact that we all strive to make but mostly and typically fall short If I find comfort in the loss of Kobe Bryant is that he made that impact that he died knowing he was one of the greatest to ever do what he did. There is no question about that I know Kobe knew that There was debates constantly. MJ or Kobe. Lebron Koby greatest ever do and most championships. How do they matter Those conversations don't happen without you know in that person knowing that those conversations are happening on a daily basis he. He knew his importance. He knew he was loved. He knew he mattered a he knew he made an impact. I Find Comfort in that the part that gets me to the second the part that destroys me every time I think about it the part that breaks me down and makes me cry is the thought of his daughter. Zhijie beating the helicopter with him as apparent death for us. This is not the ultimate fear. The ultimate fear is the loss of our child to see justice. Er Child struggle. Oh or lose hearts but to imagine an invasion you know the the the the moments Dell would at the end and what he must've processed would his his his baby girl. is is unbearable. It's is unbearable for me. I didn't know Koby Bryant. I'm not his friend and He didn't he didn't impact my life. from a personal experience for many that we're hearing from I'm I I didn't have that luxury But he's still destroys me. Every time I think about it I I understand that life is fragile. I understand understand that it's is so easy to come and go We all must die but it's hard to pitcher tragic understand tragic deaths. I take these moments. You know. I do these podcasts for the listeners of course But also for myself because I need I use these moments to self reflect to remind myself I love my kids. Anyone who knows me knows that literally every thought of my day day is my kid. I do everything for my kids and you decision I make is about my kids So I I use these like as As someone who loves his kids to death I have three boys. I don't have any daughters. I know it's you know maybe a little different to some people have raised daughters instead of boys But I I always I I do think to myself you know if I die tomorrow and I think about this all the time if something tragic does happen to me by Dina car accident you know. Whatever her are my kids prepared like Di di Di do my best and I love them enough that I- instill confidence enough that I tell them that I did? I explain how to be a leader as much as I could that I show it as an example Did I did I did. I put them in a position to to take care of themselves and I you know I like like to believe that I do i. I try every day I worked so hard To do that and to to imagine you know what he what. Kobe went through in those final final moments. It wasn't about Kobe Kobe. Kobe was okay with Kobe. Diana was even thought it was his daughter. I don't even question that and yes there. Were other other people on this helicopter. It's horrible whole family's mother father daughter mother and daughter the pilot the the The mother who wasn't on there what her husband and kids who now have to deal with this. I think about Kobe's wife. I think about the families who have to carry this burden and I know you know the world has an outpouring of love for them and I hope that that helps in some small way but I know it it ultimately comes down to them. They have to live the rest of their live with this right and that survivor guilt is real. It's not it's not it's not. It's not something that we just make up that we just talk about that has to be almost as bad as the one who leave us because you feel guilty that they went and you didn't and I'm sure you know I'm sure. Kobe was aware the dangers of finding a helicopter. I'm sure something him and his wife disgust and like I said he made such an impact and I'm sure he was well aware of the risk was taken and and I find comfort in that I find comfort in the outpouring of love for him and that he was aware that before he left when Nipsy died nipsy hustle. I hurt because I didn't know if he knew the way the love the way the world loved him the impact he made. I knew he N- new in some way but I don't know if he knew all the way we Kobe I find some and comfort in the fact that he knew all the way But I hurt when I think about his daughter. The the the The impact. She doesn't get to make that she didn't get to finish yes And there's no way to make sense of this. All I can try to do is live better because of it love of harder work harder and do everything in my power. She tried to better myself. I can't erase what happened. I can't change what happened. I can't turn back. We all thought Kobe Bryant would one day be an old Kobe Bryant and he'd be entering the hall of fame. He would continue to exchanged lives and he's still going to change. Lives is still gonNA matter. He still matters. But just you know from a different way Thank you everybody who's written beautiful articles Creative video sharing their moments and experiences with Kobe podcast cash acted a great podcast talking about him. And how we deal with these kind of moments because people that shock that someone who had issues with Kobe and he breaks it down beautifully on his podcast and how it works and how that whole situation developed an and most importantly this moment again as a reminder to him you know to to love harder There's just so much and again like I said this. This episode is fifteen minute break is not you know selfishly for me in a way because I can't stop thinking about it I can't stop replanning in my head. You see the horrible video that gets shared you constantly keep being reminded minded about it and I just as a father. Just rips me up. It just rips me off. But I'm not here for the Goofy Shit with the people that wanted to debate Kobe's he's you know Where he ranks? I'm not here for the Goofy Shit. I'm not here for the people who WanNa make jokes when there's no joke to be made. I'm not here for that that I'm not here for that stupid Shit I'm here to celebrate. Kobe's life celebrate his daughter's life to celebrate the people's lives who were are on that plane and helicopter. Excuse me and you know I I feel like the most important thing we can do in moments limits of tragedy like this an unexpected tragedy. Because when it's death right like if if someone is older or they're sick for a long time I'm not saying death is easier for us to deal with them but it softens the blow a little bit because I feel like we kind of we kinda feel it coming right but in situations like this. That reminds us that life is is so delicate that just going to work and coming home is a win matters. Twenty minutes in the car with get your kids matters we so were. I'm so quick I can't even say we have to say I'm speaking for myself. I'm so quick to handed tablet or a phone or play music or whatever and I should be having conversations in those moments more and I just WanNa make sure that you know if something tragic happens to me that I I uh I did right. I did the best I could. I don't WanNa fall short. I don't Wanna I I had this mentality where like nipsy. Russell died his albums. One of the greatest albums ever to me but before he died. I didn't give it all the opportunity to play it like I literally almost every day now but before I wasn't because I thought I had forever. I thought nipsy had forever. I thought his music had forever. I was wrong and it's the same thing with Kobe. That's why you're seeing all the beautiful videos and and all this stuff and don't let people stop you from consuming. That don't let people stop appear from talking about Kobe saying well. You weren't talking about before you. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter. Kobe do what he did so we would talk about him now. Gary V O. He says that you. It doesn't matter what you achieve in life in the money you end up with and all this cost of matters is how many people would show up to your funeral. The whole world's initial jacoby funeral whether whether in person on TV online they're gonNA watch. They're gonNA care he won. He did everything right and we we watched a man go from a kid leaving high school to the NBA. And we've seen mistakes and challenges in him. You know rise over those. It says it was a beautiful life whether it was cut short he still achieve so much in that life and it's just tragic for everybody of all the families involved his daughter it literally tears tares in me every time. I'm not ashamed to say I cry about it. I'm not ashamed to say destroys me. I'm not I'm not ashamed to say that it can accomplish a great deal of my a day. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm GonNa work harder because of it. I'm not ashamed to say that I could always do better and moments like these unfortunately remind us yes. We shouldn't need to be kicked in the butt and be reminded to do these things but is how it works. Sometimes life is busy. Life is crazy but we can't let let things get in the way of the fact that we have to make an impact that we have to love hard but we have to get over shit son tunnels to be great. It's on us to have that. Mamba mentality is great seeing the stuff that he did and the way he lived SP- beautiful and it's horrible to hear about the other people and himself from the daughter and there's so much there that we didn't get to play out out we never know Lighthouse GonNa play out so again. I guess it's important to make this episode. Not just for you guys not just for those listening. Not just for someone randomly in you know whatever town or country as any here this but from my self as a reminder to to do better doesn't mean we're bad it doesn't mean we're not good enough. We always go a little harder. We do do not be so bothered by the little things appreciate more. I get mad had so easily. Alad hate see been so easily just love super hard. Love is important. Bust our ASS. Closest thing our declare from Kobe he had so many clips could've pulled from Merle. Oh continue to use but I WANNA end on this note. Thank you to Kobe for everything. He Accomplished Mahar and everything goes out to his family recipes. His everyone aboard. Not Just Koby and I hope that somehow his family has the strength. I know they will and shots. That's all you guys. Anyone listening right now. I just know that you matter is so important so someone told me that in passing one time I talked about on the show. They just said you matter so randomly I just WanNa a you know to to to pass over you matter. Let's all five little bit Kobe. Inas Issues Mama mentality. I love you guys. I hope this helped in some way. I know it helped me as always be kind. Be Great keep dodging means a team. With what about individually for you got one more to check could take that to the bank. The guys go out and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and be like and you gotTa have a bull you gotta have. A boy may ask somebody carry on the tradition. The legacy just like oh I got. This humphry. Tom Enjoy life is life is too short to to get bogged down. It'd be discouraged or you have to keep moving. Keep going per watt smile and just keep all. How do you WanNa be remember what what matters is to you and his whole discussion of what you want people to think of That you L.. It's I've always said that I wanted to be remembered as a player didn't waste a moment today and I felt extremely bless the guy giving time the same time. I didn't take take you for granted six year old boy and deeply in love with Sofa. Marceau ooh

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Death of Kobe Bryant

The Current

09:01 min | 6 months ago

Death of Kobe Bryant

"In the fall of nineteen ninety eight an elderly woman known as the Cat Lady went missing. She had a very Very Distinctive Silhouette and very recognizable. When so you're walking into town a handkerchief on her hair long overcoat like somebody that lived on the street? All police could find were thirty. Thirty cats shot dead. I always knew something happened to her disadvantage like that uncover the cat lady case from CBC ABC podcasts. This is a CBC podcast Galloway. This is podcast from the January. Twenty seventh edition of the current a Toronto Raptors been attributed up. There's a twenty four second shot clock and of course Kobe Bryant wore number twenty four and I wonder if that is what is happening in in honor of him. Twenty four second shot clock expired remarkable scene yesterday at the beginning of Toronto Raptors game the Raptors in the San Antonio Spurs pay tribute to NBA Great. Kobe Bryant Bryant running down the twenty four second shot clock in honor of the number that he wore twenty four. Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. In California yesterday eight other people including including his daughter were also killed Gomez. Kelly has written about Kobe Bryant extensively over the years and he's with me in studio now. Good morning morning. How would you describe Kobe? Bryant has a basketball go. I would say a brilliant an incredibly brilliant but complicated figure transformative I think the modern NBA. And I'm not talking about the tactics of the way they play but the way the NBA carries itself. It's dominance throughout the world is perhaps the world's most fascinating league a lot of that is down to him. Why what what did he do? There are other superstar superstar. Certainly what did he do. That was transforming. I would suggest that the thing that Ryan did that. You know it's hard not to call them Koby The thing that Kobe did that other other players couldn't do is that he brought this mercurial persona this need to attract attention on and off the court and a sort of arrogance the translated with fans in a way that mere play couldn't I think the way I put it. Today's he was social media before there was social media. He was a person that used the price us who berated his teammates who castigated his opponents who was against everyone tilted every windmill and people found that fascinating and the important important thing of course is that he could back it up. He was probably the most brilliant player of his generation fascinating. backstory grew up in a basketball family and grew up in Europe before he moved back to North America. who was Kobe? Bryant and in that context in that context Kobe Bryant was a a child that was bred for greatness whose parents had decided in his youth he would be special in some way. That wasn't necessarily basketball. But it turned out that weighs father play professionally overseas. He was home schooled and so when he arrived. Eddie arrived with this incredible cockiness and self assuredness that people really hadn't seen before he was able to display in a bunch of different languages. -solutely was multi-lingual. You know it was pointed out that he could have got a scholarship the US based on his academics not as athletics so he was someone someone who was bred for greatness and carried that through like never seemed to lose that self belief even when we know forget it wobbled at the beginning wasn't quite the player. He was initially advertised as he had to grow into that role and came in straight from high. I school that's exactly right. He was one of the last to do it. His career there are people in Canada who will remember higher low point in which he scored eighty one points against the Toronto Raptors. What did that tell you what he was capable of that he could? It was two things that happen there I to score eighty. One Point is insane in that game he took forty six shots. The Raptors total so about ten players to seventy six so we. He didn't lack for self belief. That was the thing is that most players will never score that automatics. Most players will not take that many shots and they will try passing off at some point but he just felt he was in a rhythm and kept going later. He called that he didn't talk about The physical physical need of doing it. He's talked at his feet of the imagination. That only he could imagine so big to score eighty one point in the imagination of basketball fans. And you saw this yesterday not just social media but if you talk to basketball fans of a generation of his generation he was the greatest player he mean to Tabasco ball players and fans of the current generation. Because there's Michael Jordan and there's Larry Bird and there's there's a long list of of extraordinary players but in that generation. He seemed special. Well the thing is I think McKee Kobe. Bryant had a Shakespearean Art to his careers is three. Kobe's there's the initial Kobe that wins the first championships and becomes you. Know the the the rising star in the NBA NBA. The new Michael Jordan. Probably the second best shooting garden history after Jordan. Then there is the sex assault accusation at which point his reputation is brought low understandably. Then there is kind of a dark koby period after that when he becomes quite embittered and retreats into himself and then there's that necessarily third arc mark when he becomes the elder statesman that went on for quite a while. That's the player I think. Players of this generation remember when he became a kinder gentler. Koby he he was still. You still could kick against the pricks many hot too. But he was the sort of person that took people under his wing and was more open to new players as you mentioned at the height of his success success. He's accused of sexual assault. He's arrested never tried Settled a civil suit related to this out of court. The story was that this would have destroyed his His career now if this had happened now in the era of me to in an era of heightened awareness around sexual assault That he would have never come back he did come back. And how do you rebuild his his career and his image. After the I think the thing that athletes the advantage. If that's the word we WANNA use that. Athletes athletes have in. This is that you know whereas other careers when something like this happen necessarily stop athlete. There's a huge investment in them. Their career continues because they're under contract in most cases. And so you have your way to play your way out of it fairly or unfairly and people have very strong opinions on that but because he continued to be great and because he continued to win and championships later on people simply forgave is the right word they simply move past it. How does that count the legacy that you see him leaving? It certainly complicates his legacy. I think that's where people to say to themselves At this comes down to I would think an art versus the artist question. I think thank you can appreciate the art without necessarily endorsing every single thing about the artist. There is a view that is shared that The statistics don't define his legacy gacy in some ways that he had all the numbers. But that isn't the full picture. No I think that's absolutely true because it is what we think people will remember about Kobe. Bryant a generation ration- from now is not that he was the fourth leading score of all time or the five championships are the remarkable eighteenth street. All Star Games What it is? The Person Colby. Oh be encouraged players in the NBA. I think writ large to be more themselves to be more honest In the media. But what they thought was going on on to be crueler which people are always attracted to. I mean nobody. Nobody was crueler to his teammates. Think coby Bryan people loved it and also also to see themselves as something more than basketball in sports standards. He was a renaissance man. This guy spoke Italian. He played the piano. Appreciate it art. He was probably the first north. American can athlete that gave people permission to like soccer because he was such a big fan of it. So this is someone that was a lot more than what he did on the court beyond. The numbers is heartbreaking video. That's been circulating regulating Of Kobe Bryant on Jimmy Kimmel show speaking about his daughter who was also killed in the helicopter crash yesterday talking about how she was a basketball player and and when people came up on the street and talk to him he looked at her in some ways as furthering his legacy What does that tell you about who he was as a person people say that that not just? There's a father better. Somebody who became an advocate for women in sport. Yeah in a massive AD. Could he'd recently said that he thought women should be playing in the NBA. Not at some future point but right now this is someone who saw himself. He was raised as a legacy. That was the entire point of his of his child obviously wanted to carry that on. He didn't see his greatness. I I think is imbued entirely in himself. which a lot of a lot of great people do he saw? That is a generational patrimony that he was going to pass on. Call Paul Callan. It's good to have you here. Thank you good to be. Call Kelly as a columnist with the Globe and Mail for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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378: Kobe Bryant on Cold Calling

Daily Sales Tips

02:05 min | 6 months ago

378: Kobe Bryant on Cold Calling

"You're listening to the daily sales tips. PODCAST I'm your host Scott Ingram. This is part two of a little three part tribute you to Kobe. Bryant started yesterday in tip number three seventy seven unfortunately. I don't have the audio of this but the crazy thing is I didn't even have have to look for this quote. It was sitting right in the middle of an article that I had pulled up. There's a link to that article. Daily sales dot tips forward slash three. He's seventy eight titled this one quote from Kobe. Bryant is all you need to know about his success and the quote is this. I'll just cold call. People absolutely absolutely. I'll just cold call. People pick their brain and stuff some of the questions that I'll ask. We'll seem really really simple stupid. Quite honestly for them. But what if I don't know I don't know you have to ask. I'll just do that. I'll just ask questions. And I want to know more about how they build their businesses and how they run their companies unease and how they see the world. There's been a lot written about Kobe's Mamba mentality but this is pretty epic. This might just be the greatest cold. Hold calling mentality. I've ever heard of course it's probably a little easier to get people like Oprah Winfrey Johnny to take your call when your name is Kobe Bryant but I think the lesson stance here. It is one more time. I'll just cold call people absolutely. I'll just cold call people and pick their brain about stuff. Some of the questions that I'll ask will seem really really simple and stupid. Quite honestly for them. But if I don't know I don't know you. You have to ask all just do that. I'll just ask questions. And I want to know more about how they build their businesses and how they run their companies and how they see the world tomorrow. I'll share one last clip from Kobe about legacy. That just absolutely speaks to me and I hope it speaks to you. Come on back tomorrow to hear that. Thanks thanks for listening.

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 139: This Is For You, Kobe Bryant

GSMC Entertainment Podcast

46:46 min | 6 months ago

GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 139: This Is For You, Kobe Bryant

"The girl but the day. Just be one without your Hollywood Vince. Golden state media concepts. That are ten podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive use of pop culture Hello and welcome to GMC entertainment podcast brought brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am your house. Cynthia and happy Monday. I I don't really know high I I want to start off this podcast As I'm sure most of you have already received the news and you guys could tell by The title of today's episode I'm Kinda like in a sombre mood. I'm not as cheery and happy as I normally normally am and I'm sure many of you also feel the same way and unless who live under a rock. You probably know exactly what I'm talking about I I mean yesterday morning. Something extremely tragic and shop shocking happened. I was at the. La Fit Expo over the weekend. I was at the Los Angeles Convention Center. And I noticed thought everybody was wearing Lakers jerseys and and specifically Kobe Bryant stirs and it was a lot more than normal and I started questioned. Why there were so many Guests at the Convention concentre wearing his Jersey. And that's when I overheard someone who came up to our booth and mentioned Koby Bryant passed away and again. I'm I'm in the middle of working at the expo and I overheard then I was like why it like no. I didn't believe it and I check my phone and I see multiple messages from my friends. I see my mom texted me. I see my boyfriend. Texted me all asking me telling me if I've I've heard of the tragic news of Kobe Bryant and Mike Okay why and I and then that's when I found out in the middle of working at this convention center where I'm supposed to be happy and in a good mood in a cheerful mood. The Kobe Bryant had passed. And I still can't believe it and I'm still shook and the title honestly didn't even know how I wanted to start off this podcast on McKay like I feel like everyone still kind of in that somber mood today and I know that totally when I found that out like it affected my mood completely I went and a complete one eighty I was like whoa the world kind of stopped for a second I feel like melodic view are going to remember exactly the time and place what you were doing where you were when you found out this tragic news Sunday Sunday morning yesterday I think the whole world stopped when they found this out that you know this. NBA Legend Kobe Bryant and his thirteen eighteen year old daughter G G BRYANT PASTA WAY IN A fatal helicopter crash I mean the whole world is mourning has dead and I know we're all kind of in the same boat. You don't even have to be a basketball fan or a sports fan. He was a superstar. Everybody knew who Kobe Bryant was like you. You hear his name Kobe unity know who he was and he was a very respected man You know had really great family values. He was a family man. And that's just even more respectable. Even after his after he retired his post basketball life and all the amazing work he he was doing so I'm still like shook and I don't know if you guys can even tell by like how shaky my voice was. I usually or how shaky my voice is currently. I usually never get to connected with a celebrity's death or like a death you know to I never feel to Saad over a death that about a person who I never knew personally like. Even when Michael Jackson passed I was sad. Of course. It's always you know not good news when someone has passed away but I didn't feel that like deep connection to him and I didn't really look up to him in that way maybe not sense. Why was it to Saad? And this is the first celebrities death breath if you will where I actually had like I got teary eyed and like I feel like my heart so heavy and it's so hard for me to even talk about this right now because it's just like like such a terrible lake stories. Such a terrible ending to such an amazing human being and Kobe. Bryant was only forty one years old guys like he's still young and he still had so much work ahead of him. I feel like his career was still I mean if he he's been peaking but but like I just knew there was so much more potential. There's so much more good he was going to be putting out into this world and for those of you. Who Don't know not only did Kobe? Toby Bryant and his very young daughter Digi Bryant pass and this fatal accident. There were nine people on board two of those being Kobe Bryant Angie NJIT Bryant and no one survived the crash. There were three families involved brief families on board one of whom were G. One was a Jiji's he's teammate. And her parents and the pilot as well and the only passengers as of right now who have been identified in this accident. are Colby Colby and g g the rest are unidentified and this is just so tragic. I mean they were. They usually take Helicopters everywhere a Kobe Bryant and his family live in Newport beach which is an Orange County California and they were fine two thousand oaks for A. They were traveling to a basketball. The game and this is when they the helicopter there are riding in crashed into and crashed and literally burst into flames in the hills. Above cal calabasas California and like Isaac is still stuttering. 'cause it's just so hard to believe in like as I still haven't really processed I feel like this is just not real The L. A. Sheriff's office says there were visibility issues but the cause of the crash has not officially been determined and they will still be further investigating this issue Which is why they have asked people in the surrounding area to make sure they stay? Stay clear off those roads so that investigators and police and everybody who's involved in the investigation can easily access The area of where the incident took a place and it was. This is so shocking to me If you guys have seen there's a video circling around I found it on twitter. I don't know if it's like posted on the On instagram or wherever but I know was on twitter. There were hikers and cyclists On that road in the calabasses Bassus mountains and there were witnesses who saw this terrible incident and recorded it. I mean they obviously didn't know that it was Kobe Bryant Ryan but they saw when I was reading the reports. These hikers heard it helicopter too close for comfort coming towards not really towards they just saw the it was slowly lowering and lowering closer to the mountain so they recorded it and the video was just so appalling it really. I'm still shook it looked straight out of a movie scene. If you have seen the video of their crash rush then you know how shocking it is because it doesn't even look real like so the helicopters flying and something like falls but you. I can't tell what it is. It's kind of pixelated in the video so something falls out of the helicopter and once that object flies out of helicopter. The helicopter starts spinning so fast like spinning so fast and it crashes and literally burst into flames like explodes and and there's just so much fire and smoke like even the people who recording gassed and started crying again. Not knowing that it was Kobe Bryant Ryan and his daughter and I. It's just so shocking. It really struck me when I saw that video like I i. That's when real tears are coming out because because like this is just so crazy unbelievable heartbreaking. I cannot even believe it again. It doesn't look real if you see the video literally. Looks like it's out of a movie scene and I just what is the most heartbreaking part for me is knowing what were Kobe's and Gee gees last moments together. You know like their last moments in that helicopter. They're spinning and they're literally just falling going to their deaths and they all know that like how what were their last moments each other how was he comforting. Her could even come for her like she could. He probably didn't couldn't even say like everything's going to be okay or you know like because he probably knew like this is going going to just end badly. We're early falling toward docile. Just like those last moments together Gijon. Kobe like breaks my heart. And that's what really gets me choked dubbed just thinking about the G. G.. She's thirteen and she was literally becoming the next like female Kobe Bryant and you know their chemistry Hammet street us. Father and daughter was so beautiful to watch there was a video circling around Twitter also a couple months ago where Kobe Bryant took Hook G. G. TO A. Wnba women's basketball game and he was kind of giving her pointers and he was coaching her and like really showing her the game and it was just there what came came to be a mean is now like we look on not video now and it's like something so beautiful to watch because they have such a special connection with one another and their love for the game for the game of basketball was so just touching and like the fact that they both left this world together and out of all his daughters. She's the one who looks identical twin. Like she looks he. She's a copy and paste of Kobe Bryant. And it's just so sad and and I cannot cannot imagine what Vanessa Bryant and the rest of the family is going through and even the family of the other seven the people who perished in the accident as well like I just cannot wrap around my mind around what they're going through their emotions how they found out about the news news. I read somewhere that Vanessa Bryant and the and the oldest sister Natalia they found out through social media and I feel it's just the worst. That's one of the cons social media as they don't respect the families you know of the ones whose parish it's like you have to find out their social media like what happened. I've been to your loved one so I'm GonNa take a quick break here and when we come back. I'm GonNa talk about more of this incident. Hi I'm Greg. I'm the the CEO and founder of Silver Recovery Center. If you're struggling with alcohol math heroin pills. We can help you. We treat you in a way that's going to help you want to stay and want to do it. 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Okay hello and welcome back to TSMC entertainment thirteen podcast and I'm going to continue discussing Again the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant and his daughter gee-gee Bryant as I was sitting in the previous segment they Experience a fatal helicopter accident in Calabasas and again it's still so shocking. Walking and I found out was that work at the L. A. Fit Expo and another crazy thing too is I was in la when this happened and for those of you who don't know were. I'm familiar with away. The Convention Center I was I is right next literally across the street from the staple center and downtown was crazy. When I love the Convention Center there was a memorial service at Staples Center right outside and there were so many people walking and I actually went to his memorial service so I went there and everybody's wearing his Jersey people have flowers so many people are crying like and for the amount of the huge crowd that I was in? Everybody was so quiet like nobody was talking all over. La Downtown La. It was just like bellboy not billboards but the buildings had Kobe's picture on it. Some were saying we love you. Kobe and gee-gee another one said Mamba forever and I was like taking pictures And it was just such A. I don't even know what that moment because it was like okay. I was at this great event and at this great event I found out this terrible news and Like I was just like a mix of emotions and I still am and it was just crazy for me to experience that in La the day Eva's passing at his home his second home at Staples Center like all hit me. It was just all so much like I had to leave the memorial service because it was getting I was just getting too emotional like I was like. Oh my goodness I feel I feel his presence there and it is crazy it was just really really crazy. I'm it is I quickly mentioned in the previous segment. Even you know. Many sports fans in basketball fans admired his work on the court for but she was also very respected and very admired For his work off the court and after Kobe. Bryant's death this Sunday His short film has oscar-nominated Oscar. Winning short film. Dear basketball was super hard and difficult to watch online online. But is now viewable for free on the Internet Greenwich Studios The NBA Stars Multimedia Production Company Buzney made the Academy Award Winning Film Dear Basketball now available for free This Monday afternoon on dear basketball DOT COM website. And the meal. And if you guys haven't seen this short film it's like probably like a two three minute film Dear basketball is based on a poem that Koby Bryant row in November of two thousand fifteen to announce his retirement. So it's a year before his atonement and they'll the poem was published by Kobe Bryant by the player's Tribune which is a website that features first person accounts by pro athletes. And you know we we. I know when that video first released in two thousand fifteen we all were Celik. Oh no like. We obviously didn't want him to retire because everyone loved he was a beast on the core. A and again he was just super respected like he was a superstar. And now we have that Award Academy Award winning video to look back on and reflect. And Oh my God just like all the emotions like all these waterworks. At coming I watched the video and again I just got teary eye. Because like he's just so oh inspiring in every aspect and the NBA also has postponed the Lakers and clippers game. That was scheduled for Tuesday. which just tomorrow so they postponed? Obviously the the decision was made out of respect for the Lakers organization. which you know? They're deeply grieving. Even the tragic loss of this Lakers legend His daughter as well gee-gee Jonah and the seven other people who were involved in the helicopter crash Josh And like I was I was. I'm continuing to say his post basketball. Life has made him a legend on and off the court. Like he's he's just I respect him so much and as you're such a tragic as close to tragedy like I'm still at a loss for words. This is heartbreaking You know he even. He opened the Mamba Sports Academy training facility to help athletes improve on an overseas a series of sports fantasy children's book because he says that he just loves telling stories and he loves handing those tools that he wished he had growing up he. He loves handing those tools rules to the youth. And you know just inspiring them to be better and I just really admired all of his work on enough core 'em. This is even a setback for women's basketball. I mean since his retirement in two thousand Sixteen Koby Bryant has been boosting and supporting women's basketball and the WNBA in general you know from taking has his daughter's like Dj to Wnba Games to coaching his daughter. The basketball Kobe Bryant was setting the stage to become an invaluable contributor in arena. That needed support. Because I mean as we all know just women's sports in general doesn't get too much spotlight for one. They don't even get paid nearly as much or equivalent to men's lends a sports and I love the Kobe. Bryant was you know. Here's this. Powerful male figures sports figure who uses his voice to lift women's basketball and uses platform to shed light on them and be like. Hey you know. These women need to be treated is equal to men's sports and I love the he was in stealing those amazing values that Mamba mentality down to his daughter as as well and to g-gender threats just as whole story is so twisted because G G was literally she had so much potential like she was just starting to peak and women's basketball and the ED. WNBA was starting to look at her as well she had amazing highlights. I mean she was truly truly going to be carrying out the legacy of Kobe Bryant and I love to I mean obviously now with tragedy laws. There's so many interviews news pass interviews at Kobe. Bryant has done that resurfacing to kind of highlight. What a wonderful person he has been or has been in the forty one years of his life life and one of those being someone asked him or he was talking on this show about how people always coming go to him like man? You need a boy like we need to have a a son to carry out your legacy and how he and Kobe Bryant explained like I got gee-gee Jiji's got this. She's got it down. She's is going to be the one carrying out my legacy. You know in terms of basketball. He has four daughters and another. Just so heartbreaking. Taking thing is that he just had a baby with Vanessa Bryant like less than a year ago I think the youngest one Capri Kobe Bryant. She's six or seven seven months and now she's going to have to grow up not really knowing her father nor her sister and she also are they also have like a four year old baby girl and Taller. There's just so heartbreaking the truly is again my heart is so heavy talking about this and Dan even more because I experience like I was in La. When I got the news I was right next to the staple center? I went to the memorial service where it all just felt very real for for me and raw and my heart just goes out to everybody WHO's affected by this tragic laws family members friends of Kobe Bryant and the other two families also involved I mean is just really so so sad all over instagram Oliver Social Media every post that I see I'm scrolling that Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant and my boyfriend's a diehard Lakers fan but more clubby fan and same with my uncle and I can't even imagine also like that was like your Colby Bryant was you know a lot of people's favorite a player especially Athletes like a lot of athletes looked up to him and he like the people that he meant toward really without you hem even knowing the end is just such a tragedy like a truly truly is and again I just want to say. I want to dedicate this whole episode to him to to Kobe Bryant. May he rest in peace and rest. Imperative is as walls his daughter. And I'm I'm going to cut into another quick break when we come back I will be talking about this. Year is twenty. Twenty Grammy's tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen causing and here this out. There's a podcast network. That covers you just about everything that you've been searched. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than our podcast bliss with with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build. That podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. WWW DOT GS MC podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play Hey guys and welcome back T. GMC entertainment podcast. That was a much much needed break on my end. That was a lot of heavy stuff that I was talking about and I literally felt like I was Gonna get choked up and I'm like I'm not up on a start crying on this podcast sir. I I know you guys don't WanNa hear me AK cry. John Means like cry in Spanish. But Yeah I'm about to do that to you guys I WANNA move onto a more Celebratory no a happier. No and I want to talk about this year's twenty twenty grammy's which again this was also just really crazy for me because says I was at the Convention Center Staple Center is right next to me again. That was Kobe. Bryant's home by was also the day that he passed. The day of the Grammy's the Grammy's was held at the staple center so there was chaos in downtown alright and it was even crazier. They got to experience that by the way I saw ditty which is crazy. I saw daddy at Staples Center yesterday. It was grammy. So it's like it was really a lot of things things happening yesterday in l. a. m. like I just said so this year sixty second Grammy Award show took place This past Sunday yesterday at Staples Center honor in La. And I WANNA I share with the all like some of my favorite moments most memorable moments of the grammy's and then I'll move move on to some of the winners the recipients of the Knight's and I WANNA start off with Liz so Liz oh she opened the show. What the performance for or two songs? 'cause I love you and Truth Hurts and let me just save. This was my first time ever watching Lazaro Lazaro perform live and I loved every single second of it I was entertained from start to finish like. She's she's truly unique and unapologetically herself and I respect her so much for that. So Schieffer's comes out wearing being a long black sparkley ground. She looks very elegant. She's center stage and she first starts off saying tonight is for you Kobe and then she performs her song 'cause I love you and she doesn't like an and then she doesn't amazingly fast outfit outfit changed so after she's done performing that first song Ballerinas in GLOWNA DR N glow in the dark outfits. Come out mind you this is probably twenty Queenie. Second intermission. The Lights shut down the ballerinas come out in their glowing glow in the dark outfit. Twenty seconds the lights turned on and Liz. Oh isn't a completely different outfit. She changes into this like sparkley jumpsuit. But I was like she probably was wearing underneath the gallon but it was super super amazingly fast. How she changed? I was like Whoa. WHOA I was caught off guard and my favorite part of her performance that I actually like tackled and laughed out loud was only going to have to see the video? So she's like in the middle performing truth hurts a flute. uh-huh okay a flu comes down from the middle of nowhere it came from the blue comes down from the ceiling. She grabs it and she starts playing find the flu. which by the way? She's so talented with the instrument. She starts playing that flu and in the middle of her. She likes stops as she goes. And she yells period period. For those of you. Who Don't understand like what that is like period is almost like a statement? Now it's like this thing going around social media It it originated from city girls. There this rap duo for Miami and they're always in a period and you say it with attitude after you're saying something like I'm GonNa give you an example so say you're talking to somebody and you're trying to make a point and okay here we go to girl's talking one girl dumps or breaks up with her boyfriend and she rants about how She's going to live her best life after him and then she goes period. That's kind of like you know period like what is ending statement made my point point. Prove it so that's what period means and I was so funny how Lezoux SCR Y'all's gals that in the middle of a performance. While she's playing the flue she takes it breath. She's like period out of nowhere. And again I just. She's unapologetically herself. And you can't hate her for that. Even though people to hate it for that and I was amazed. She's an amazing performer with a vocal range instrumentally talented and and all I love her energy and people cannot hate only allow people hate on her for her size but she got stamina okay to be performing. She put on like one hour shows and to be dancing and to have that vocal range on to have that presence on stage that takes a lot of stamina and a lot of work works so I applaud Lezo. I love that. She opened the grammy's She's she's just killing it. She's speaking right now. I'm living for Lonzo and another another one. Another one of my favorite moments of the grammys was also a performance by Alicia keys and by boys to men they also performed after Lazaro and they open the show in the most precious and thoughtful way they also dedicated their performance to Kobe. Bryant and their their Their performance was definitely more somber Not as a high energy is Lonzo and they definitely got their message across Their message was on point. They're singing was on point and it sounded beautiful booze also just so sad odd There were people crying. When the camera panned to some of the audience members over w who got teary eyed I definitely got teary eyed? Watching the video I had to pause. Recycle let me collect myself before I continue watching the video by was definitely more of a somber attitude So it was. Yeah it was definitely sad like just almost felt like there was just like a dark cloud hovering over the grammys because A. K.. Here they are you're there in staple center in La. The day. Kobe Bryant dies and in his home. You know in his basketball home. So there's definitely like you. It's like you're happy but you can't be too happy because it's like something. Just tragic just happens was definitely just like A. WE'RE EAR NOT WEIRD SOMBER DARK cloud hovering over the grammy's And another one of my favorite moments favorite moment of mine from the grammys Was Billy Porter's outfit but more specifically has had and have you guys haven't seen I want you to stop this. Go Watch watch or go on twitter or go on Google type in billy porter. Grammy's outfit so you understand what I'm talking about. Because his outfit was everything I I named him best dressed for this year's twenty twenty Grammy Awards. His hat inspired a whole lot of memes. So he arrived on the grammy's red carpet wearing a hat a sparkled. Blue Hat that matches Sparkley blue outfit. Okay and APP breath and this hat at. I look to feature like a standard like fringe love but it turned out to be a motorized curtain. Okay so imagine. Imagine a blue sparkley hat like. I don't even know what those are called. They're kind of like an right now. It's their kind of long. I'm describing a well. You guys are probably always in like what are you talking about. But there's a fringe all along the hat and it literally opens up and the he opened the curtain for or the cameras and then he would close it when it's done and I know I'm probably not describing as well as I could be. So that's what I'm saying. Google it right now billy Porter Grammy's outfit the and you'll know what I'm talking about and get a good laugh because it was just iconic that outfit Sto funny another one of the most memorable moments of the grammys was Arianna Arianna Grandes massive dress. Also like she was literally swimming in that dress. Okay it was funny because I saw this on twitter were goes. It's a a picture of the grammy's like all the audience members and you can easily spot Arianna Guerande in the crowd and it goes Arianna Arianna grenade taking up fifty percent of the seats. Because that's how huge her dress was. It was like massive Definitely the center of attention attention. The Grammy's She gave she was giving me like Cinderella Disney Princess Vibes. That's what I got when I was you know when I was looking at pictures of her at the grammys But she looked gorgeous. I sure but she definitely was giving me like Cinderella Vibes as she was working. The red carpet So yeah those are definitely my most favorite memorable moments and have you watched the grammys. I'm sure those were also your favorites. So it was Lozano's Lozada's opening performance. It was Alicia keys and Bob Boys to men tribute to Kobe Bryant. And it was belly porter's outfit outfit and Arianna grenades outfit as well and again. I'M GONNA cut into another break and when I come back. I'm going to dive in into some of the winners of this year's Twenty Twenty Grammy Awards Golden State media concepts. Bring you book review. You can I haven for book rooms of all ages and the widest John Rose from mystery to memoirs romance to Comedy Fantasy. A seat sci-fi if you love to read this is a podcast leave. It's the Golden State media concepts book review PODCASTS Yeah Hello and welcome back to GSM ST entertainment podcast. And let's get back to the program here and I wanNA share with the guys now. Some of the winners of this year's twenty twenty grammy awards shows there are over eighty four cowdery categories stories. I will not go through every single one because the list is endless They truly like award everybody in in every Genre Contemporary Jazz Gospel you name it. They got it. They got an award So I'm just GonNa pull kind of more of the mainstream mm-hmm awards what was trending on twitter. What making the headlines? So that's really what I'm GONNA be covering and I'm GonNa Start with this first. One so record. Good of the year was awarded to eighteen year. Old Young Star Belly Irish for her record. Bad Guy. This is beating Lizardo. Low gnaws X. Arianna Arianna `Grande her Khalid Post Malone is sway lease so record of the year belly Irish. This happens to be one of the so. There's four top categories. He's at the grammys record of the year album of the year song of the year and best new artist those are like the top four main categories his. And guess what your girl young belly. Irish won all four categories guys record of the year album of the year song of the year. Best new artist. Aw once swept by belly Irish which is crazy. She made history by I for one dethroning Taylor swift as the youngest album of the year. When at the grammys but not only that billy also made history no no one? Since Christopher Cross and nineteen ninety-one has swept all four major categories in the same year and since Nineteen eighty-one twenty. Now now twenty twenty belly island now holds the crown for that so she was definitely the biggest winner of the night and to be eighteen to win. All four major categories. I mean. That's huge. So major congratulations to billy island. What's amazing to be You know to be making history in that way and for winning all four major categories and one night. So congratulations civility Irish if you listen to this and now moving on to best pop solo performance. This was awarded to Liz. Though for truth hurts after watching her opening performance mance For this year's grammys. I'm not surprised she took home this award for best pop performance because that woman could definitely give a show she so entertaining meaning and for best pop duo group performance. This was won by Lola's x featuring billy ray Cyrus for their hit single Ole town town road the remix. Now I feel like Jonas brothers should have won this Not that LIL GNAWS X. is a bad performer. Summer but I'm just a fan of the Jonas brothers a definitely of your like if you grew up in my generation like high school musical camp rock phase. You feel me like we grew up watching the Jonas brothers present. They were like the guy so again. You could probably people may disagree with me but I love the journalist Brennan Jonas brothers and I think they should've went okay and for best pop vocal album belly Irish for her album when we all fall asleep. Where do we go so she took home home? The most awards for Grammy's not only won all four major categories. But she wants she took home. Five grammys last night. Amazing really is and for best alternative music album. This was won by vampire weekend for their album. Father of the bride best rb performance midst one by under impact featuring Andre Three thousand for their performance for come home best rb Song kind of like songwriter. They give it to. This one was prizing for me. This kind of shocked me a little bit this was given to. PJ more in for his song. Stay so Chris. Brown's should have won this. Okay let me just say that Chris Brown song. No guidance was a nominated for this specific category as well for best rb. A song. Chris Brown did not win. He actually didn't win any grimy last night but I think for this specific song he definitely should have one when no guidance came out last year last summer Mer that was like the it song for twenty nine hundred these summer anthem and it was playing everywhere in clubs Everywhere the radio they still do. It's a hit song so I'm surprised that it took it home for that. Category and for best are MB album. It it was won by Anderson Pock for his album. Ventura this is him beating. BJ The Chicago Kid Ella. My lucky day MPG more it. I love elyse album. I think she should have wine. I care like I said every no one's ever gonNA be happy with the results including myself now. This one I loved. I loved For Best rap performance this was won by icon nipsy hustle featuring roddy rich and hit boy for their song racks. The middle. This was also up against the baby. Cardi B. J. Cole others nipsy Russell Want to post Humus awards so he won best rap performance and best rap song with a DJ cow and John London for their song higher so it was like a lot of There's been a lot of tragedies did you use I mean last year we lost nipsy Russell again. I remember vividly where I was I it was like a chill Sunday. I was chilling at home and I got the news. I thought on twitter and then Kobe. Bryant's you know yesterday so at the end of their performance. Dj Paladin John Legend performed higher at the grammys And the grammies was actress supposed to pay tribute to nipsy household but they also ended up adding and ending the performance with the tribute tribute to Kobe. So the hard you know a picture of nipsy hustle and alongside him Kobe and also one of my favorite moments and when are most like touching being heartfelt moment seeing to legends to icons you know to icons gone too soon as a really crazy really emotional national night for everybody in that arena at Staples Center and for best rap album. It was given to tyler the creator for his Album Gore. I really hope I'm saying that right. A Gore ideal are. This is his first grammy win. So congratulations out of the Creator I believe this was the tough category because I think all of the nominated albums end. This specific category had a chance of winning Twenty twenty one. Savage Edge was nominated meek mill for his album championships dream dream bill for his album. And revenge of the dreamers. Three all of them were Graham. A fan of all three the Project so I think any of these I would have been pleased with. They would've won pretty. It's been a pretty good year for rap music I would say I am for best rap song. It was awarded to twenty one savage featuring j Cole for their hit single a lot. I I love that song and for best reggae album. Will I love reggae. Best reggae album was awarded to coffee for his album enrapture. I wonder if there's an award show where they just dedicated. Just to like reggae afrobeat music. I feel like there's there's not any award show dedicated that specific genre. I mean we have the soul train awards which dedicated to mainly our NBC so music smell. Psalm Lamis I cannot speak on my goodness Saum Use Music and Gospel Music and then we have Like the awards and all all these other John Rose kind of have their own thing even for country feel like Reggae afrobeat music really and I would love to see if one day someone creates eighteen awards show for them. Because I'm a fan of that genre of music I love island is So I'm glad that they were also included for the grammy's and for for a best music film of course. I'm not even questioning this. I might even surprise by the recipient of this award. It's our girl. Will the Queen Queen Bee beyond say for the film homecoming on Netflix. Go check it out if you haven't seen it and for best music video. This is the very last award I will be sharing with. The guys best music video was given to low gnaws acts between billy ray Cyrus for again and their hit single old town road remix so a lot of great wins on Billy Billy. I definitely was came up with the big W for the night with five total. Grammy wins and out of those five four of them being out of the major categories. And as I said earlier The though the Naiad in unexpected dark cloud overhead with the recent news of basketball legend Kobe. Bryant's passing Alicia Keys. You know she was a host at least a keys and many other performers came through with both respectful tributes and still L. Celebratory Vibes His Jersey's numbers eight and twenty. Four were illuminated all night long and the staple center and I know oh I know his presence was definitely felt in that arena especially sends. The Grammy Awards did take place and Kobe. Second Home Staples Senator. You know he really belt. That's like where in here celebrating music and the house were Kobe. Belt made memories like Oh my goodness so again. I dedicate this entire episode to Kobe. Bryant his family to G G Bryant my heart my prayers everything going going out to those affected by this tragedy by this loss. And you guys. That's going to wrap up today's episode. 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Mourning Kobe Bryant

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Mourning Kobe Bryant

"Is like a bad dream is so sudden readiness. So surreal I I. I honestly don't. I don't know what to say. You know recipes because we weren't man. One of the greatest Lakers element today. Eh Mourning the death of basketball legend. Kobe Bryant from wondering athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm the Davidson. It's Monday January. Twenty seven and this is the lead it felt like something was Gulshan users pass. Don't matter because I had never seen anything like that. This isn't a story it stays with you so beat the. We're here to talk about the tragic. Death breath of former Lakers star. Kobe Bryant who died in a helicopter crash yesterday along with we believe eight other people. So let's start with what what we know happened on Sunday morning people living in Calabasas a town west of La heard a loud noise one person. Jason said they heard the sound of helicopter blades and then allowed impact and then people saw a fire erupt and the L. A. County Fire Department received nine one one call at nine forty seven. AM local time about brushfire and a potential helicopter down and CALABASAS. Is this town that sort of spills. Dell's up on the side of the Santa Monica Mountains. Like you said about thirty miles northwest of downtown. La and the crash happened in a pretty hard to reach mountainous area near. You're there. Yeah it's it's the sort of woodsy terrain it's it's prone to brushfires and they've had problems with fires there for some time including a really big fire. There air in two thousand eighteen at a news conference Sunday afternoon. Daryl odds be a spokesperson for the La County Fire Department said that they dispatched a really really large crew of people in response to the crash and the fire. The loss of this county fire department initial response was fifteen pieces of apparatus. Fifty six personnel that consisted of paramedics catching company. Heavy rescue truck company hand crews the aircraft in a chief officer to oversee the incident but he said that the emergency responders did not find anyone alive at the scene of the crash Russian. They did a search of the area for survivors. Unfortunately all the survivors bore were determined to have the parish. And we also don't want to read into this too much because the cause of the crash is still being investigated but there was some really dense fog in los dangerous on Sunday. I actually was talking about it with someone on Sunday morning before we even heard about the crash. Yeah it's it's definitely something that is being talked about As a potential contributing factor in the crash and flights were delayed due to dense fog at LAX. On Saturday. But again we'll have to wait and see what the the investigation finds and so at the time that we're now speaking late Sunday night Los Angeles time. We believe that there were nine people on board the helicopter. Yeah at that Sunday Sunday afternoon. News Conference. Sheriff Alex Villanova made reference to a flight manifest basically a list of passengers on board an aircraft as achieve indicated. There were no survivors. We haven't manifests indicates that there was nine people on board the aircraft. The pilot plus eight individuals There arose the white speculation who had entities are however it is entirely inappropriate right now to identify anyone by name until the corner has made identification advocation through their very delivered profits. And they've made made enough -cation six again and there was this pretty remarkable moment where the sheriff called out out. TMZ apparently reporting that. Kobe Bryant had died and hinting that they broke that story before the Bryant family had been notified ride and it'd be extremely disrespectful to understand that your low one of these terrorists and learn about it from TMZ that is just wholly all the inappropriate. So we're not going to be going there. We're going to wait to the quarter desert job and we're assisting the families of those who believe there had been impacted and it's a IT'S A. It's a tough process but at this point multiple sources have confirmed a number of deaths two different media outlets so let's talk about Who We know was on that helicopter so Kobe Bryant who is forty one years old and his thirteen year old daughter? Jonah also known as G G. Jj was a young basketball player. Who is very much her father's daughter? She had his drive and his determination and she was very much the heir to the Bryant Basketball Mantle. You know Kobe had four daughters and G G would very famously say that. He didn't need a son to carry on his legacy that she would do that. And he talked talked about that on. The Jimmy. Kimmel show one time. Do you think your daughter Might WanNa play WNBA. She does for sure she this kid man happy we great man. The best thing the best thing that happened to go out and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me. It'd be like you gotTa have a boy you gotTa have a boy somebody carry on a tradition the legacy. She's like oh I got this. Aw got this. And he'd often be seen sitting with G. G. courtside analyzing the game with her in his daughter in the building breaking down the game. I Love I love this For multiple reasons great to have of course. Kobe Bryant his daughter here. But you could tell. Now he's sitting right near us but he's been breaking down. The chilton time to his daughter was a basketball player herself in that the beautiful awful thing. He was her coach you know. He coached her on her travel team and they were on their way to a game at Kobe's Mamba Sports Academy when when their helicopter crashed. And it's been reported that three of the other people on board were a baseball coach named John Kelly. His wife Kerry and their daughter Eliza Who was on the same basketball team as Kobe? Daughter Jonah. John is the one we know the most about so far. Yeah John Altobelli. Was College Baseball Baseball coach. He coached at Orange Coast College. For Twenty seven years he won four state titles and more than seven hundred games and from all accounts. He was the kind of coach who who truly put his players. I who who treated them like family. ESPN's Jeff Passan chalked. Jeff McNeil plays for the New York mets and had played for Altobelli Valley in the Cape Cod League and McNeill said quote. He's one of the main reasons I'm still playing professional baseball. And John Kerry altobelli reportedly have two surviving surviving children. Yes a teenage daughter Alexis and an adult son. Jj who is now a scout with the Boston Red Sox and Sunday night a local local news affiliate reported that another passenger on this helicopter was Christina. Moser would we know about her at this early point in time. She was an assistant basketball coach at harbor day school and Orange County. Her husband Matt posted on his facebook. Page saying that their family is devastated. Asking for privacy for himself in his children and we should note that Dr Jonathan Lucas. The chief medical examiner for the county of Los Angeles spoke Sunday night and said that they're in the process of recovering and identifying the bodies. But that that could take multiple days potentially given how difficult that is to access the crash site and the NTSB the National Transportation Safety Board is currently investigating the cause of this crash and so it could be that as of now there has not been unofficial statement from the Bryant family or from the Lakers. So there's still a lot we don't know oh but the reactions from the basketball world and really the entire world have really been pretty incredible and very emotional yeah they have NBA. Commissioner Adam. Silver called Kobe quote one of the most extraordinary players in the history of our game and cited his five. NBA Championships. Two Thousand Nine League. MVP Eighteen all star selections and two Olympic gold medals. Magic Johnson called Kobe the greatest Laker of all time and shack who won three championships with Kobe and his forever entwined with him tweeted about his heartbreak. His teammates they won three championships together. She kilo. Neil there's no words to express the pain I'm going through with this tragedy of losing my niece gee-gee and my brother Koby Bryan. I love you and you'll be missed my condolences Sousse go out to the Bryant. Family and Doc rivers the clippers. Coach got very choked up in front of reporters when he was asked about Kobe shortly after he got the news. I don't have a lot to say. The news is just devastating to everybody. Who Noah you know? And you know he just he meant it means a a lot to me. Obviously you know we also saw NBA teams throughout the League. Honor Koby during games and this has been happening all all around the League every team I possession taking a twenty four second shot clock violations as an Omagh the Kobe Bryant number twenty four. I mean Kobe was such a transcendent. Sports figure everyone has been weighing in former president. Barack Obama tweeted needed his condolences writing. Kobe was a legend on the court. And just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second. ACT TO LOSE Jonah. His daughter is is even more heartbreaking to us as parents Michelle and I send love and prayers to Vanessa and the entire Bryant family on an unthinkable day. The President President President trump also tweeting this afternoon. This is terrible news and you know. Sports didn't stop yesterday. We saw tributes being paid to him at at things like the pro bowl and and inside the staple center last night at the Grammys Alicia keys pay tribute as well and we're literally standing here heartbroken in the house that Kobe Bryant built so Ah You and our producer. Chris Segal went to the staple center on Sunday afternoon. Just a few hours after the crash. What was the scene like down there? You know we. We got there fairly early in the morning right after we heard the news break and people were still assembling and it was strangely. Quiet there is something heavy about the quietness at this place that you know it's La live. It's right in front of Staple Center. It's a lively outdoor space where there's usually music and people congregating and there were for all the people that were there there was no sound and also because the grammy's were happening there there. You know you saw this mix of people who were morning and who were in Lakers jerseys with people who were also morning but in sequined gowns and there was just something thing bizarre and completely surreal about the atmosphere there. There is this powerful moment where Kobe's image finally appears on a video screen. Lean at the Microsoft Center at the Xbox Plaza and people just started cheering and applauding. And what are the people that you spoke with down there have to say while we met this guy named Gabriel Pariahs who had shown up with this the big wreath of flowers of course of purple and white flowers and the crowd kind of started to gather when he walked in with this wreath and he. He's he set it up on this wooden stand and I just. I wanted to know about his his motivation. What compelled you to make this flower? Arrangement Spin angeline all my life so I need to come show something even though it was like the worst time to do it but kind of like pay my respects to go and and where were you when you heard the news in Hollywood. How's driving home full over in downtown and I heard about it so when I had the first meteorite away so there was a woman named Andrea sipping belly? Waugh's who at first was too emotional. Talk to me frankly Sushi kind of deferred word to her partner but eventually she did tell me about what Koby meant to her and particularly her and her family he was my idol growing up. I mean I mean. Ever since I was young my dad had me watching him play and we had all these jerseys and he was true to La and he was just part of our home and so for him to go. It's just hard times like this. I think a lot of people just I wanna make something of their families. Or you'RE GONNA you're GonNa Hug your dad extra tight museum. Yeah I mean my whole family. Every laker game there were like forty many of us. That would watch together at our house in Baldwin Park. And I think we're all morning right now so Just goes to show you that anything can happen. And you just I have to live in the presence so Which is pretty for his family and his daughters at this? And there is this guy named Bobby Jimenez who was holding holding his daughter his his baby girl and you know he was sobbing and and at one point exclaimed out in the crowd and kissed her on the cheek and he had clearly been inspired fired by Kobe. His daughter's grown inspire me do never heard to Ooh how he loved. His daughters is how I got. I went to the book. Signing my daughter meet him in Newport Duda society. It's overwhelming. I can't believe do man. I don't miss this. Make no sense. He was everything thing to me. He was everything I was playing baseball. My Dad's with me to a basketball game. I saw Kobe. That was it. It was a route equipped baseball and I went straight to basketball and I played. I played it all the way up until torme. CEO This dude is everything to me. It makes like man's make no sense and people flooding in in in their purple and gold and a lot of people brought their kids. A lot of people just wanted to share this moment with their children their family and their people hugging and crying and and just holding onto their loved. Ones didn't really know what to do with themselves. You know there are some people who die. Hi where do you remember where you were when you heard that they died and Kobe. Bryant is his one of those people. Thank you for your reporting on this. And we'll talk more about Kobe and take a look back at his remarkable life and career. You're in tomorrow's episode. Thanks for listening tomorrow.

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Kobe Bryant 1978-2020

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Kobe Bryant 1978-2020

"Hello it's Dan lebatardshow GonNa do something a little different off of the news this week. With South Beach sessions sessions over the weekend. I spent a lot of time in phone conversations with my friends and with people I care about after Kobe. Bryant's death just reaching out because because there was something about everything that happened there that made me want to tell the people that I care about that I love them and Ed's part of Lebatardshow friends is and the things that we do around here. We just like talking to our friends and so I want to have the conversation with three folks from ESPN who know this. Kobe Bryant story not unlike conversation. I might have with them over the phone When Kobe Bryant passed so let's begin among the three people with Rachel Chill Nichols? I've known her for a long time. We've all grown up. The three of us have grown up with Kobe. Bryant in our careers and Rachel Nichols having come from in south Florida can tell you a little bit about how complicated this man was but how interested he was an curious he was in learning and getting better from a real human human emotional connection. So let's start with Rachel Nichols Rachel this outpouring that we're seeing all over America. I'm I'm taken aback by it when my colleagues are sobbing or broken on air where I can see that. No one is faking insincere sadness. There's just a morning throughout basketball as if a piece of basketball has died. I think it feels that way. I keep saying you can't tell the story the NBA without Kobe Bryant Orient Their shelby. Ten people on that list. I could say that about but it goes further than that right. You can't tell the story of Los Angeles an entire city without Kobe Bryant He. He wore that across his chest and was the most visible person who represented Los Angeles for more than two decades. He a landmark like the Hollywood sign here and and this is a city that has obviously gone through some things right and has had different identities and and he was the face that let people feel good about themselves else here Phil together and unified in a way. That has sometimes been a real problem in the city. He meant so much to so many people but it goes beyond US good ball or even beyond one of the largest cities in the country. If you think about all the people who had Kobe Bryant come into their lives in one way or another other even if it was just on the television. How many people can't say yeah? Kobe Bryant was on when this was happening. He is a fixture of American life. She's part of everyone's life even people who weren't sports fans and I think they have this be so sudden and just so implausible in the moment moment as the news went around yesterday morning. That's part of why you're seeing all. This is that that he was an essential thread in the fabric whether you're just talking about MBA with. You're just talking talking about California or you're just talking pain. American in the last two or three decades and left has gone. Rachel helped me navigate a bit of a minefield here. Because you're speaking of of him in Saint Louis terms. Many people are listening to this or watching our televisions and there's a mythology ising about him. That is really defying buying him today. And there's also a sexual assault settlement that is part of his story and had him at the center of perhaps losing his freedom. I'm curious how we juxtaposed. How are we supposed to reconcile those two things? I think it's two parts. One thing is to realize that I'm not sure that everyone's talking about him instinctively terms. There's a big difference between saying. Oh my God. He was just such a big part of everything and such a presence and he was a perfectionist misery with sunny in this way or or anything like that but that doesn't mean that he was the same He had parts in his life. That were very troubling. And I don't like to say mistake because I don't think something like sexual assault don't falls into that category but just because somebody wasn't a saint because they weren't perfect doesn't mean that their loss isn't something that leaves gaping hole so I think that's kind of the first part of that and then the second part of it is the actual assault itself. None of us know what happened in that room. We I know that the two people affected had their lives changed We know they both had different versions. We know that there is no criminal conviction but there wasn't a civil court settlement and that also a public apology from Kobe. Bryant and I know that in the years after that one of the things that was very important to him was being different toward women. I not sitting here to tell you that that makes up for anything that happened in that room that night. But I can't tell you it was important to him and you could see it in in his private interactions but you could also see an his public interactions he became one of the most vocal advocates for the WNBA. Not just as a sport but in the treatment of women as as equals who deserve to play the game the same way anyone else that obviously the way that he put his daughters front and center not as being my daughter's but being their own people Who are going to have these individual lives and it's part of what makes of course talking about his daughter? John is so tragic We saw Kobe do that with different parts of mistakes that he made throughout his life because he wasn't a saint and again I'm I'm using stakes in different ways now for different things he got trouble with the NBA for a homophobic slur. uh-huh and really worked after that to approach his attitude Both in word and indeed differently toward people who may be affected by when he said things like that he made some comments about Trayvon Martin. jemele Hill wrote beautifully about this Really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and he got more educated on that and then in subsequent ears spoke out very eloquently on matters of police brutality and the way that Young black males are treated in this country so I just don't think it's the same thing to say. That people are are reeling over the loss of Kobe and talking about his outsized impact on the game in American Life and saying he was he he was definitely not a saint I don't think any of US far. And what I do ask is not that they can never be redeemed but that they try to be redeemed and I saw Kobe's trying to be redeemed and a lot of different ways for different parts of his life. That he would go back and do differently if he could. We can't go back in time but we can try to do better and I saw him several times trying to better in a lot of ways what we saw him grow up right like we can. We don't have to eulogize him in terms that are two sparkling cling but we got to see him grow up into a man who did some learning the picture at the end. Rachel is of him being committed family man and and that had to be a hell hole for them to navigate in their relationship. His family life seeming to fall apart with that sexual assault settlement. Vanessa's famously sleep through out of the House through his clothes on the street. But you know people as you said people work through things You're married now Dan. I'm sure you know. Every marriage ages different and has different challenges and part of the beauty of marriage is working through the hard stuff not just the guy loves it lovely stuff and you know they were married for two decades they were able able to do it and had four children and I just kind of the pain. If you're Vanessa Bryant Wareham this morning and realizing everything that happened yesterday is real. I can't I can't fathom it. I just can't Rachel as the first thing I thought of. It was the very first thing that I thought of after the shock subsided. Like Oh my God that poor woman right I mean I just I will say you said. Oh my colleagues on the air crying. I was reduced to tears several times while having to talk about on television yesterday. And it was Jonah. The did it for me I Will Miss Kobe terribly. I have known Kobe half my life. I met him twenty three years ago when I was a young reporter. He was rookie told the story. A bunch over the years because it meant so much to me. Then you knew me then. I was a young woman and time where young women were not super. Welcome still in a lot of locker rooms. I had a hard time. Sometimes I'm getting players even coaches to answer my questions and talk to me and I went to go do a story in Los Angeles on her work you name Koby Bryant and not only did he make time for me you know. We sat on a bench for forty five minutes and talked and I ended up telling him a little bit about what was going on with me and who I was and he told me about how on that makers teams. He was not welcome with open arms by the veterans and they are not thrilled with this kid from high school. Getting all this crazy attention member the brandy stuff all sorts of stuff and they felt like. Hey we're the lakers. Were the ones entitled to all of that and then we definitely some hazing. Making Fun of young was and and just sort of not him and things and we're talking about kind of how discouraging all of that felt sometimes to reach the thing. That was your goal and these people you admired so much. Not having them want you there and she he just sort of looked at me at the end of the interview and the you know what we're GONNA be alright. He said they had no idea what's coming. And I will always remember that and did use that over and over again through the years so I will miss Kobe so much. He also lived a very full life. He lived in people's lifetimes in forty one years and so while his is an extreme tragedy. The person who didn't get to live her life is Gina. The person that just breaks me every time I think about it. Is this thirteen year old girl. WHO found her voice in getting to play sports? She really loved all the the reasons that young girls should have equal opportunities to play sports and get their hands dirty to know what it's like to be on a team and win and move. She was just at the beginning of all of that and I've met her several times smart and funny and Sassy in could take the wind out of Kobe no problem that is the tragedy. I can't get I can't get passed. It and the other kid died on that plane and the mother and father and families every single one of those nine people they have so many people miss them. And it's it's something's going to take a long time not to feel really robbed out. You Love Basketball. Oh but it seems to me that this one reached you more as a parent. Yeah I mean you know. That's that's that's who Kobe was and his last couple of years and because I live in Los Angeles List I get to see and experience him as that I saw him a month and a half ago and he did this thing that parents do. Oh he grabbed me by the arm and maybe look at pictures in his phone of his baby. Because you know she was five and a half months older four-month-old we're oh my God. She's changed so much that she was born like all of the stuff. It's devastating because this is something that we all spend the we talk about talking about and we'll we'll have a lot Conversations about it and I'm sure at the All Star game and we'll talk about it a lot When the hall of fame ceremony comes install? It was supposed to be Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett needed to create greatest hall of fame class in the history of basketball and instead you imagine what Kobe speech would have been like. We'll never hear the speech so we will talk about. And then we'll talk about him through the years but Vanessa Bryant and those other three girls. They're going to have to wake up every day and miss that and yeah. That's the hardest to think about a Rachel. I appreciate your time you you do it in a really heartfelt way way and your journalism is impeccable like you you really did Speak Well on the behalf of everybody involved with the NBA in your feelings feelings but beyond that like your personal connection to Kobe. Bryant really came through like it was. It was obvious that you guys developed a very strong fair journalistic relationship Asian ship and that you grew admire him and his curiosities and how we grew. Yeah I mean look. People need to have a front row seat to some of these athletes slides or Cobian. Dan There's so many people you can say that of You you watch you watch them change and again. No one's the saint He certainly not a saint but I watched him do things that were good and I watch things that were terrible and I watched him try to get better after that. And and that's the biggest thing I ever want. Someone and I saw can try and I saw it and do it. I appreciate your perspective. Always thank you our thanks to Rachel Nichols. I've been a little surprised at how moved people. Keep getting when they talk about this stuff. How much it hurts them in ways that they can't even talk their way through it? Even the most professional people are thanks to Rachel Nichols for continuing to go down a path half that no parent ever wants to thank of Let's bring in now. A menial Hassen. He's worked in Basketball Front Office of the sons and on the West Coast and he he really loves basketball. As you know a mean knows basketball I mean those basketball. He picks everything wrong. But I mean those basketball. So let's talk to amino acid asked in a little bit about Kobe. Connection to all things basketball I mean during the local hour is a good year as broke down crying talking about Kobe. Bryant your reaction as someone who loves basketball and sees him as a symbol like how. How deep does is this one cut? Because I've been a little surprised by the outpouring even understanding where it comes from. You Know I. It's tough because because Kobe and I roughly the same age we have four kids Three we graduated high school the same year so there are a a lot of parallels between him and I in terms of our experiences growing up. As fans of basketballs people consume soon basketball so it hit me pretty hard knowing that this is this is a appear in life obviously not appear in basketball ascot ball and knowing this is someone that I both washes a fan and then watched as a competitor you know gain planning against them and then watch does is Immediate Person Analyst The other part of it really hurts And then I'll tell you that yesterday when I got the news out with I'd already done three hours of radio. I was going home and I had to go back to the studio and we did three hours a live radio. All the news is coming out and it's trickling in. I kept it together and then one time I lost it on. Air was when I found out that his daughter was was an accident. And the other Curls who are teammates as well for whatever you WANNA say about Kobe Bryant in an es forty one is tragically young to pass away but on some level he got to live his dream. Dream was to be an NBA player to be a great NBA player. When he got to do that yes she has new dreams? And I'm going to go on to do other things. Another is not the least of which father and shepherding his children into their dreams. GD Didn't get a a chance to do that. And I look at my kids and You know as heartbroken I would be that they had to lose me or their mother one hundred times broken down and I can't imagine what she's going through right now. That is one of the things that I imagined is is uniting people across the country in a way that is pretty seismic Is How many parents can identify with the horror of of all of that. Because of your first thoughts end up going to Vanessa and what her day was like if indeed she got the news from TMZ as the L. A. County Sheriff says and then she learns that her father her husband and her child are gone. I got to imagine that what's happening here to a lot of people. Outside of sports is making the parenting connection. Yeah and then it'd be honest with you. When you have definitely shifted this thing into a different zone of Greece for most people especially those about did not know him personally away but I I gotta tell you passing would like doing? The first news came out that it was him added battery action that transcended Basketball Sports. I had a friend WHO's not asking us. NBA Fan who was at a Brunch at a restaurant in New York and she told me the moment. The Moose came across the entire restaurant on at the same time. You see people. Pick up their phones and gas and You know kind of being shock and you know. That's that's that's that's pretty tough when you jump off the sports page and and and you enter mainstream news. This is who he was he was iconic and I think for even people weren't sports fans they knew who he was. And why why do you think thank. Why do you think that is? Because he is another champion like he is across sports. We have five time champions. Why that with him? We talked about this before Dan About the cult of personality of the you know the kind of Cathedral of Cova me that he built where people exalted him As more as more than more than just the basketball player and certainly more than Whatever place he has in basketball history I I think it was an incredible marketing job. That in life serve them well and and in debt as made him Like I said an international symbol and icon And I think part the Dan is tragic way it went. You know he didn't Guy Sleep he didn't pass away. You know Do the illness. He died in a helicopter talker crash. You're my friend. You know one of my group chats. He's overshadowed the mode of transportation. You talk about helicopters from now until the end of time people are the first thing. Don't think about Kobe by. And and that's that's a pretty strong statement if you think about it. I'm wondering as I chronicle this. I'm wondering what has even felt close to this because this ends up feeling when you start walking around and see all all these people down here for the Super Bowl and you run into them. And they're sort of Ashen face their ashen-faced as if they lost themselves a loved one In a way that is is pretty overwhelming. It's hard. It's hard to ignore the way that that has hit people in the face. But as you look at the at the Lakers as historic franchise as enduring surviving Magic Johnson's AIDS crisis as him pushing out Shaquille O'Neal to make that his is town forever. His town in a way. The Lebron James can't even take over that town is wait for euro two what he meant specifically to Los Angeles because I know Miami's had similar feelings for for Dwayne Wade but they got to see him grow up. They've they actually got to see him. Go from a teenager like a lot out of us did from a teenager to allege I think. That's that's it on the light Dwayne Wade who showed up twenty two twenty three years old with a kid right. He's already kind of lived life on some level Unlike even Magic Johnson showed up at a twenty year old You know Kobe was a title l.. Plays in eighteen years old on a team full of Goldman and went from not playing at all to starting in an all star game before he was even studying for his zone team to obviously being one of the greatest players. Ever put on that uniform. And what you what you're looking at is a guy who became a man in every sense of the work got married to an La a girl at his kids where he's the family and put that entire career twenty win a years of which in La at some point he not from Italy. He's not from Philly he's from La. And I think that's a in different kinds of dynamic when you think about The you that that embracement of a city as or an area I guess because you you lived in Orange County In business this is my home. Going way doesn't have that His first wife wasn't up of Miami from Miami Miami embraces the wing way. But it's it's not the same because it didn't have that full incubation that you have and you think what about you or formative experiences what's made you into who you are. Adult things happen with teenagers. Sixteen and twenty one and three out of those five years he spent in Los Angeles so I think that's part of it and I think obviously you know incredibly successful and again a A personality kind of a personnel. That we'd like to admire right. In general we like to admire the ultimate competitor. Like my the no excuses that we like it my the I hold my teammates to a higher standard even when my teammates is one of the greatest centers of all time. I'm still going to hold him. The highest and these are the traits that we attribute with leadership leadership and with With success in regardless of feel that we're talking about and in a town that cherishes success probably more than any in this country You know people resonate and react to that and You know I can tell you that area right outside across from staples Abelson where they had the grammys. So people can get across the street to the all congregating what they call Microsoft Square with your little area between the ESPN building and And the Microsoft here it was nothing but people not not Hollywood not people from from a Beverly Hills but the the actual people in Los Angeles can you explain to people in a way that they can understand encapsulated whether it's in an anecdote or some other way his will because it is really unusual in sports to get a guy and I think Michael Jordan is the only one we would put in this category to get a guy who was was simply known as being more willful than everyone else I believe it was sports. Season receiving the championship eastern a lot of people remember. He started the season with a broken right hand as shooting hand was in his gas. And you have to do everything left handed and so He beckoned over or to one of his team. Is John Tele. Stan was a stand out college for right. He was a four year player in him and coby would have been around the same age to play reports and then proceeds to play left handed. Not Hey you gotta make these left-handed shopped John. Kelly you shoot whatever shot you WANNA shoot and I'll shoot a too but I gotta to. I take my hat beat them. It's just it's an insane amount of competitive drive right. We think about someone who who should not be doing this activity activity let alone Doing it competitively and doing it to a point where he beat eight four year college standout and NBA pro- And then if you WANNA take it a step further other I think the most iconic moment is the day he ruptured his Achilles you know in the NBA. You GotTa if you don't keep the free throws you can't stay in the game it'd be leave did did injury and someone else for your out of the game. He's ruptured Achilles honestly not coming back into the game but he he literally picks Tilles up through his growth skin Habeb. Ot Line makes both free throws and then get taken out of the game and then the final part is afterwards the words in the locker room. believe it was Eric Drinkers of bleach. Report asked him is this last time. We've seen Kobe Bryant GonNa play and Kobe's you know took a the moment they said. Yeah Yeah I'll be back. This is an end to me but you could tell you the motion shaken and later on. He said that quote was kind of what made him really pushing. Lose Rehab to to try and come back. That second story was better than the first one. A horror story against four year college player. I really felt like you remembered at in the middle of that story that you had a better second store. I think that's what happens. All right. Thank you very much appreciate your perspective as always thanks to a mean El Hass in there for spending some time with us before we get to our final guest on this matter or he said I know who has gone from Miami to Los Angeles Ellis and is very much and was very much Kobe guy before we do that. Let's tell the people who's sponsoring this this week. Mike please it's brought to you by Ziprecruiter hirings challenging but if there is one place where you can go. We're hiring simple fast. And smart and growing businesses connect qualified candidates cafe all tourists. COO DYLAN MOSKOWITZ experienced. How challenging hiring can be after unsuccessfully searching for director of coffee for his organic coffee company but then he switched to Ziprecruiter and so an immediate difference and you can too by signing up for free at Ziprecruiter DOT com slash beach? Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. It finds them for you. 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So we've really enjoyed fooling around with those sideline interviews and horizontal has been someone you see all over the jump all over the NBA coverage that we have here on ESPN. And I wanted to talk to him a little bit about what. He's learned about Kobe since getting to Los Angeles and seeing how deeply rooted his roots were in Los Angeles. So let's talk to her or he sodano about that. He grew up with Dwayne way. During this era of basketball. In Miami with Dwayne Wade he had that connection and where basically Saddam's entire time in Miami all the winning the only winning was Dwayne Wade and so then he moves to Los Angeles and it felt like he was becoming a Kobe guy and it felt strange to us in Miami to watch this transformation. What what Voodoo Did He sprinkle in your face that made you be somehow both a wave guy and a copy got fatherhood man. That's what happened. I think that that was the difference. I got here right right after he retired so the only Kobe I got to see regularly outside of the few times covered him over. The years was the Fatherhood Kobe. And I think that that just struck a chord with me having been a new father and just kinda seeing how he was a different person right like it was just a different chapter in his life where he wasn't the maniacal intense guy he was on the floor with with his kids he was gentle. It was a different side Than I had ever seen in the opportunity to cover him and I. That's that's where it was and so the humanity of Kobe reached you or you just too syrupy softy because you have your own kids now and so you're the one who changed He might change some but you changed as well or right. Yeah no question. I think it's absolutely both of those things. I think that all of this stuff is buried in that. Like you know you always hear stories about like you know once you have kids it'll all be different and you know you think when you're single or you're just you know married with you don't have kids or whatever and then it happens and then yeah syrupy happens regularly like way more regularly than You think and that's why when when this thing happened yesterday All I could could think about was the kids and then when I found out that those that his daughter and the kids were on there. I'm then my mind goes to a place like Oh my God. What what? What were those last few moments like when when this thing when he knew for sure like this is not going to work out how do you how do you comfort? They're they're like what do you think what do you do. How do you react what do you say do you say anything like? That's all that's been swirling in my head for the last whatever it's been twenty four hours the final moments right because because it's hard to move around that one. What how? How does it feel to know? You're about to die with the most helpless feeling in the world that you can't save your child's life life right like I'm sure in his own mind like it's like you know take me not them right like if that's possible that's probably the only now you're talking about split seconds right right like that's what you're probably thinking right like do you do you do you hold her. Do you grab her like you. Hold her hand. You hug her do you tire. Everything's GonNa be okay and and and probably lie in that situation like man like just what you have to just like mentally have to deal with in a couple of split seconds had got to be just ridiculous. Can you explain to us the connection with Los Angeles because you've got Magic Johnson conquering HIV And at at one point Laker fans thinking he was going to die young Looking at Kobe Brian and saying he's the greatest Laker of all time. Lebron gets there. He can't be Kobe. It's always gonNA be Kobe City Koby pushed checkout and it remained his city. Can you explain the link between that city and that guy I can and here here. There's more layers to this right. So what I would say is first of all Much like you referenced. Earlier dwayne Wade and Miami. La Shaw. Kobe grow up like literally get here a wiry eighteen year old or whatever it was youngest player to ever play in the NBA at that particular moment and go from the kid who who airboats Shots against the Utah Jazz to winning championships. And have you know some of the highest of highs and and and by the way have some of the lowest of lows and stumble right personally and professionally and endure all of that and overcome. I'm all of that and then still find himself at the top of the mountain again after shack despite all the stuff that had happened professionally and personally and he is as interwoven into the fabric of this community. Unlike any other athlete and over four years that I've been able to absolutely ascertain like there's no doubt about that and there's a great story in the La Times today Gustavo Yano I know wrote a story about his impact on the Latino community. Who pronounced the hell out of that? My friend you you please do that again just for for the people listening Mustafa boost our Yano of the La Times. I felt like he did it better. The first time Okay Gustavo okay wrote a story story about how Kobe connected with the Latin community. Obviously you know Vanessa is the daughter of Mexican immigrants and I You know that so. The story talks about how she I took him when they were dating to. This restaurant is Mexican restaurant in her old neighborhood in Orange County and how he would go there and he that's where he really learned to speak Spanish and he would watch novellas with his wife and his mother-in-law and and you know Salvador he got in there and just like he was constantly working on that stuff because he was always challenging himself right so I think like things like that right. You hear those types of stories but I do think it's as crazy as this is gonna sound like the whole Mumbai mentality thing like that's the thing here like that is something that he has done. That has allowed people who grew up watching him or watch him. You know as adults They allow that to. It's something that they can apply to their own life and sensibilities like you know the way they look at it as they look at it this way they look at it as you know. I'm a sales sales guy. I gotta be focused. I gotta have the sounds crazy. What you're saying sounds crazy? You're saying you've adopted the the mom of the count. I am not not joking when I tell you that that the town is absolutely adopted. The Mama mentality. I know that you of all people would think that's why it's ridiculous. No No. It's not that it's wild. I know we need to be celebrating. braiding Kobe right now. But that's ridiculous that says that Los Angeles is ridiculous It says it fell in love with someone. I think. That's what it is. You know what I mean me like. He stole their hearts. And I think that just history right like all that stuff people they relate to him on that kind of human level level that they can apply that mentality those sensibilities to their everyday life. I I'm not joking when I say that. That is something regardless of who you talk to. He connects rich. Poor Black White Hispanic Asian. You name it. They love him for that and in the immigrant community specifically they love of him because of the work ethic. You know this right like your parents come here. Come to. The United States is Cuban. Exiles you know they work their ass off right. They don't know days. Offer that kind of stuff to give the best life they can't that's his work ethic it's why the immigrant community specifically is super attached to them like he actually referenced the Latino Community But the immigrant community specifically In his farewell speech I his last game like he talked about like the connection. He has with people. Here is unlike anything. I've seen anywhere else. I you know I know plenty of people in New York and Derek. JETER is their guy but it's not like that. It's not like this dwayne wait. It's not like this like this Dan. I'm telling you is different because it hits different layers and different levels as ridiculous as it may sound and that is absolutely the case. I'm not disputing the last part of what you said. Just the idea. Though that he would be a bit of God in terms of imparting upon on others the wisdom to have better success in their work lives That makes him a bit of a Tony Robbins on top of everything else. Sure I guess you could say that. But that's he you know he believes that you know what I mean. I I mean I I don't know if Tony Robbins believes that are not maybe does But Kobe sure is held it. I don't think there's any doubt. Do you have any stories that you've enjoyed above all others from fellow players in the last couple of in the last forty eight hours. Oh man let me think Just you know a lot of the stuff that I've gotten. Is this stuff about how he kind of. I don't WanNa does. He changed but how he had a different view and perspective near the end of his basketball career and it went from. I'm an assassin assassin. And I'm going to kill you and I'm GonNa take you out no matter what. And just the passion to win and the defiance to being more open to being collaborative motive and kind of training guys and working with young guys from a basketball perspective. That was what I got a lot of right like. I was at the game in New Orleans yesterday yesterday. And Lonzo Ball Brandon Ingram. Josh Hart who never played with him they missed him in some cases by a couple years but at least by one season in one one of their cases but he was around enough and invited them to work out and train like they felt like he was still a huge part of their life and they were broken at points before that game yesterday like Alvin Gentry David Griffin both talk to me about how they had to really console those guys a couple of weeks ago. We did a game with Jamal. Murray Mavericks Nuggets and we might them up and in that session. He was talking to us about working out with Kobe. Kobe really became a teacher later on. And as you talk to a lot of the guys jrue holiday was another guy. We talked to yesterday Jason Tatum Worked worked out with him. Another young guy like that is kind of the thing that you that I gathered the most that he went from being the assassin to being the guy to willing to impart art wisdom which wasn't always necessarily the case early on or had good talking to you. Thank you for making the time. Buddy appreciate The look from the other side because you really only use all its stuff in Miami and so when you're saying it's bigger than that bigger than anything you have seen People can understand a little better. What the connection is you? You gotta be anytime our thanks to Jorges sodano thanks to everybody. Who helped put this together? Meal Hassen and Rachel Nichols also Roy. Oy and Mike and so we should advertise Mr Crepe before we do that. What did you guys think of all that you guys worn out or you guys just just unbelievably tired and emotionally drained? Not The greatest start to the week obviously but I thought that You hit the right tone. Not that many people care what I think are are you just bringing us around. Did tell you how great you are. yes. I was hoping that. That's what you guys would do before revealing to the people why they should listen to Mr Credit. Yes how great was that. was that great. No that's not what I was asking you guys. I was just asking you why you look so broken like both of you look like. You're just crushed. Yeah this is Anytime something like this happens you view your own mortality mortality. Roy and I both have daughters and Obviously something about you changes when that happens and you just put yourself in those shoes and you can't help but Have your heartbroken a little bit a lot. A bit for the family and for a as I hate to even relive it. We've mentioned it a couple times about those final moments moments on that helicopter and what a squirming around when they thought what father must feel in in that moment. It's just it's it's a horrible. Thanks Claire for a very long time to the point where she was actually pushing me off her. Yeah I got to hold my daughter for seven seconds before I needed to do the next. ESPN I guess. We needed to talk to the next seven insiders. All right well tell the people what's going on with mystery crate during Super Bowl. We'll mystery crate right. Now is a mystery to to us at time of recording where prepping to go to media night as a unit. That's pretty cool. So if you want to hear montage of like seven second question and six second answers from the left guard of the San Francisco Forty this is GonNa be good though so you guys are going to be the wacky show that goes to media day. We're just GONNA ended up being shying get pushed out of the way by the people that are really wacky. I've got a great story for you regarding all of this super bowl stuff before we get to anymore mystery crate talk hankers area as the Brock Meyer character. At one of these news conferences went up to Golden Tate and and say Like clapped his hands and said Hey I know you. You're the winner. In that adult category of porn film Golden Holden Jane and Golden Tate just stared at him. And so you guys are GonNa do stuff like that heating turned the corner was like. was that the camera guy. From God's new Super Bowl Media Day no I mean I. I don't even know if we want to promote it because we I don't know if we're going to use this but we have a bunch of content opportunities that radio row so it's going to be a fun super bowl themed last week. We've bounced back last week. Was the beginning of what seemed team does Oh was a mental health breakdown this week. We're going to rise above and put out something. I don't even WANNA say proud of but we're GONNA put out something but it starts art super bowl week after the last mystery crate when you were short-circuiting and it seemed like your life was coming apart then. Kobe Bryant dies. And then you get swallowed for twenty see four hours by all things content relate. It doesn't stop and the Super Bowl is here in the party starts and you don't even know right now if you're Dj for Shaquille O'Neal's party anymore. Do Are you doing what I was actually doing it if we want to put yourself were you when you learn the news. I was preparing for Shaq's T- Fun House which I'm DJ. And like. I just ran downstairs in stunned. Silence I said. I just said like Kobe to my wife and then like after after. I digested all the news and stopped my rehearsal. I haven't even gone back and I was like. I wonder if this is even happening. I can't even imagine like someone like Shaq Shaq and Kobe. It's like Batman Robin. It's Word Association Association. What he must feel? I was taking my wife's car in to be serviced and the guy working on the car told me that Koga died. That's what happened and you told man and you told me right before I sent it up the chain Bristol to get that verve. That's Roy Really did. I was surprised. You gotta pay attention. Whenever Roy sent you a text I mean honestly like this mechanic should be on the beaten? Give some competition. I guess back road.

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Wiki Women: Kimberly Bryant

The Good News Podcast

03:01 min | 11 months ago

Wiki Women: Kimberly Bryant

"I'm calling your host of the good news podcasts and I'm neil the other host the good news podcast is your source for Good News Fun Stories Auditory Delight and Sonic Joy on today's episode where giving you guys another one of the wiki women entries as we've mentioned before the show. Wikipedia is one of the most popular websites in the world. It can get over thirty. The million views a day but studies have found that between eighty four and ninety one percent of the editors are male so there's a lot a lot of entries in there about men because they're written by men so women saw this. There's more women editors on Wikipedia now to showcase we men and women's achievements I'm GonNa tell you guys about Kimberly Bryant so Kimberly Emberley Bryant is an African American electronical engineer most notably Bryant founded Black Girls Code in two thousand and eleven black girls code. It is a training course that teaches basic programming concepts two black girls who were underrepresented in technology careers additionally the organization offers offers programs in coding as well as website robot in Mobile Application Building African American women make up less than three percent of the workforce in the the tech industry and black girl codes fights to change and improve this percentage for the better organization has a major goal of teaching a million girls of Color Dr to Code by Twenty Forty in twenty fourteen Bryant was the recipient of Smithsonian Magazine's American Ingenuity Award for social progress as of this recording black girls code has reached more than eight thousand young women in fifteen chapters around the world. Are you interested interested. Do you WANNA learn more. Do you know a little girl who wants to learn stem checkout. Black Girls Code Dot Com. Thanks for listening. Do you have good news incredible or maybe WANNA. Tell L. is a joke or idea excellent email us at hello at the good news podcast dot f. m. or leave us a voicemail at seven three two one seven zero one five six you can also tweet us at the Good News Pot and follow us on instagram too and if you love the good news podcast had cast think about supporting us on our patriarch page. Most of our music is by Paddington bear the.

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Remembering Kobe Bryant

Titus & Tate

1:12:33 hr | 6 months ago

Remembering Kobe Bryant

"Up to date is a Kobe Bryant troop. That is what we were deciding to do. We're recording this Monday night. It is about seven. PM Pacific Time here here. If you're listening to this it's probably already Tuesday and at this point it's probably been forty eight hours since the news broke and you know people are different tastes some people will probably are are over it for lack of a better term. Some people have already processed at moving on and I don't WanNa hear another podcast about Kobe. Brian for you know they've already scratched. which if you're one of those people that's okay we understand? That's not what we're trying to do here. We're not trying to I don't know I don't know we're not trying to do whatever that is. We're not trying to gain a big audience with the show. What we are trying to do is the show exists because Tate night love basketball? We've that's it's fundamental to our beans. We both grew up loving basketball and the show is supposed to be extension of our love basketball and so every time we come in to record a show we want to talk about the things in the world of basketball that are on our minds and and this is literally the only thing on my mind. There's nothing else that I care about. I don't care what college games happened this week. I don't care anything else Kobe. Bryant's the only thing. Oh my mind you'll be the only thing on my mind for a very long time so we talked it over we were. We were wondering how much we should devote to Kobe. How much we should break down the Baylor Florida game And we just decided. We're GONNA talk Kobe. We're GONNA talk about the Mamba himself. The Black Mama the guy that you and I we both in la for for a while. Now we've seen gene how things work in Los Angeles. Los Angeles Lakers swinging on right now and again. That goes back to two thousand with that Lakers team. You said you were young Shack van at that point. So yeah there. There's a lot of connective tissue here. Mitch Kupchak was GM. The Lakers my whole life growing up with Carolina Guy. So I'd always have an affinity for the Lakers even though I didn't necessarily like the Lakers and being in La delay for this tragedy for this moment where we lost such an icon. And I don't use that term lightly Kobe Bryant ascended to a different different level. And a lot of different realms and a lot of different fields and what we WANNA do is show that in the field of basketball in this beautiful game. Kobe Bryant is an icon of class and he deserves that type of respect yet. And listen. We understand that You know the the news of Kobe. Bryant's passing happens. The world is not turning to titus and say we want. We've got to hear these two guys take. We understand that that is not what's happening. We understand that we are. This is not some sort of performance thing thing. We're trying to pretend like we're more torn up than anyone else or anything like that op. Art Show is always just been It's been us it's been an authentic thing and I don't know this is all that we can talk literally the only thing we talked about. So it's either this or no show and we feel like it'd be therapeutic to talk through this. That's where we're going to do today. This is our twenty four second violation. And this is a second violation. This is exactly doing exactly hang Hamas who did so much for a school. That's it though. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about Kobe Bryant today but I would he durham. Oh It's Monday night here in Los Angeles we're going to first of all. I should say that tate has notes for the first time we've ever done a podcast and all the years I've been two or three years. Whatever it is? Let's just say forty four feels like four years. This is the first time you've never had any notes in front of you. I have the fewest amount of notes. I've ever had the only reason jot anything down just so I'm not completely scattered rain because I have a tendency to to be that way. We just wanted to make this like as authentic and genuine and whatever else as possible and like I said. It's it's sort of therapy for us. And I guess I want to start their tape because wh- what is crazy to me about. This is that we obviously. You never met Kobe Brian. I I've I've I mean not yet I feel like I'm not with him seen a movie. I'd never met the man I I did I. I liked him as a basketball player will get into that a little bit like the impact. It had on us because we're both kind of of the Kobe generation so to speak. But you know I would never have classified Koby as like an icon or an idol in my life or anything like that and I like so many the people and just completely devastated. And it's so weird because like the rational part of your brain kicks in and you're you almost WANNA shame yourself for this and you want to say like what what am I doing here. Why am I being so emotional for man? I don't know for a man who is just like a celebrity and you know had no direct impact on my life life but then you think about it morning like he kind of did have an impact on my life is such an inspiration to so many people So like that to me was WAS CRAZY BECAUSE I I. I guess. Let's start here like where where were you what. How did you hear? The news was shocked as I was Yeah it's a really weird conversation because in the morning that it will which is Sunday morning here in Los Angeles. It was the night before I was driving on the PCH and The person I'm riding in the car with there's very foggy night right we drive on the PCH. And I'm saying allowed. This is very dangerous. I cannot see you know ten yards in front of me or whatever it may be but you say things offhand right you just have this passing moment and then the next morning I was in Malibu and I heard sirens about you know little shade before ten o'clock in the morning and you know there was some complaints about the sirens and that they were all over and it was kind of like another day live. You're living on crazy now. They all you hear it all the time. It's sort of like a big city and then go from there. It's like ten thirty. I'm Brian. I'm sitting there and I'm talking and then on twitter obviously and this is unfortunately thing how these things work I see. TMZ breaking and it says. Kobe Bryant has died in a helicopter accident. And then it gets wipes. And I have this like two-minute to minute period of this. You know. There's not many moments in life where you almost just feel like a sense of just like wait of just just frozen. Yeah it was and I didn't say anything to the person that was sitting there with me. And then she she actually said what's going on. Are you okay. Something happened like as if it was a family member or something like that and I didn't WanNa say anything 'cause you don't WanNa Start and say this tragic anything happened before it's confirmed I reached out to a friend of mine who was close to the family And he calls me ten minutes later confirmed the news and I don't you know like tears like you said we're we feel very removed from the situation so being brought to tears is something that's not not necessarily a one to one in the situation at least it just struck me in that moment to have that reaction because I don't feel you talk about not having knows I don't feel prepared. I feel the most repaired yet. The most unprepared. I remember felt to do something ever in front of a microphone because I feel like I should be fifty years old. I should be a seasonal media a professional and then I should be talking about the passing of Kobe. Bryant right you should be at that place and the fact that that hit me and I knew that we were going to have to talk about about him this way and and have this conversation for someone that had so much life ahead. I think that was what really hurts. And that's what that moment so huge. It's it's a it it just so I'll I'll give my story I. I woke up Sunday. It was it was fog as well and I noted how foggy it was as well. It was which which is a weird thing to say in L. A. Because a lot of people like what what Kinda Day was. It was actually foggy in. It was enough so that people would mention fan. Wow it's really foggy. Yeah we Who the buddy I was with wanted to go to get brunch He he was he he I remember he said to me the fog. I love the fog. I love going to the beach when it's foggy and it's so foggy out and I was like your first of all. That's bizarre never heard anyone ever say that if you WANNA go grab a bite by the beach because it's so foggy that's cool and so we went there we were at the Venezuelan for those of you know l. a. it's got a semi popular spot. We're at the whaler eating eating breakfast. I put on the Maryland. Game in Indiana was up seven or something like five minutes left. They were down nine at half time they come back. It was a ton of fun. Get the texts from my buddy. Keller you know he said Oh my God. Kobe Bryant died. And if you know anything about Keller you know that like he's never had a serious thought and his life he's never once said anything serious so like I don't get the joke I don't understand. I'm sure it's funny. I don't understand it and I'm watching you and I have time for this And then the timeout happens. Time inside pull out my phone. I get on twitter at the same thing that you and you see it and all those phrases that people use for for for things like when when Kanye took Taylor Swift's via may my jaw dropped. I've win and you use these phrases showstopper or whatever. Yeah and it's not actually it's not actually Java android Camman went onstage and to go to war stuff like that all those phrases you understand like where they come from in that moment because that was my jaw was open. I think it was open for like twenty minutes. My Buddy was trying to talk through with me because I showed him the tweet. Kobe's is dead in. I didn't say a word. Just had my jaw drop. I I look up our much. Time later Indiana lost. I had no idea how it happens. I was in a fog for lack of a better term And and the weirdest thing for me was watching. I've never had this experience before my life. I met the whaler. And there's a there's a handful of people there and and just watching the entire room kinda learn independently but also at the exact same time to watch that phenomenon happen It was so crazy and everyone has had the same reaction. I think it's just because like Kobe was bulletproof. You know what I mean like. He's a guy that you saw. He was supposed to be Bill Russell going going to all of these games and thirty forty years handing out the the MVP trophies. He was the elder statesmen. All of these things that everyone's been saying as the the past forty eight hours of happened and all these people are in their tributes and kind of saying that making the same point in our main And and that's what was so shocking to me is like this was not a guy. This was a guy who who had everything in his life was like down to a science and he had he was very calculated with everything. And I mean I sat there and I really thought about it and if I was like making a list of of people I would be more shocked to see pass away like I could probably count on one hand the number of people just because I know it was a freak accident and helicopters. They don't have prejudice when they go down. It doesn't matter how healthy you are anything like that. You're talking about a guy that's has. Hundreds of millions of dollars is is so eloquent and well educated did for not going to college. He's one of those educated. He's got to be one of those educated non college attended guys ever like all the markers like if you're writing if you're an underwriter for a for a life insurance policy you would look at Kobe. Bryant's life and you'd be like that guy is rock solid like there's nothing that could take that guy down and it's a freak accident. I think think for me. At least that's what made this so heavy. was I mean I. There are three things that played into a one. Is You have the grief the normal grief that happens. When a celebrity dies you prince dies and it's like I love that man's music? I don't know much about him but like that pain. I feel like I know but I know I don't know him. Whatever whatever then you throw in the circumstances of this which is a a completely freak accident probably avoidable in some ways like if you really I mean obviously if you could do it over probably not gonna fly the helicopter in that weather and then on top of that? The children his daughter the other children involved all of that just makes it absolutely soul-crushing and then the third one is and we were talking about this before four it. It sort of trickles triggers like an existential crisis. Because I think and I'll just speak for myself but I I assume I'm not alone in this that when you look at a guy like Kobe like I said he's so like ironclad and just feels like a guy that that nothing can take him down and and tally when the day and yeah and you know you get told all your whole life you're like life is precious cherish every moment whatever whatever But those sorts of things always seem to happen. When you know your your your grandma passed away and someone says cherish every moment i? Yeah but at the same time grandma was kind of old. Or there's always like it never fully clicks in your brain. You know what I mean. There's always like some part of you that caveat got to get you out of that. I hear what you're saying life sort of it. It doesn't whatever and to have this. This is just a punch in the face lake. No I'm telling you it doesn't matter what you have. It doesn't matter how rich you are because you know it's like us that that aren't multimillionaires. Used assume like once you get to a certain level of life once you have hundreds of millions of dollars you can insulate it yourself from tragedy you you can just throw money at anything and that was kind of my reaction when it happened is I had the same thought like like you think Tracy Morgan. When he gets in the car wreck back you think David Ortiz being shot like stuff like that where you see a celebrity is in peril and his life is in danger but then they they worked through through it and then they're fine not fine but you know they're back and that's kind of was my first reaction even Lamar Odom where it's like you hear the first story but then there's like the the second iteration you expect like even someone said to me that morning after it had the phone call night had confirmed it wasn't reported yet and I'm sitting there you know basically like like you said a ghost? I'm not really like say anything. I'm just sitting there like all my phone just kind of looking at the last time that I had had anything. Kobe Bryant related. Like in my like my my camera with all my photos. So I'm going through all this stuff just like see where was and it was in two thousand eighteen and AS Roma sitting there and this whole conversation is breaking out. I heard another table next to us and they're like Kobe. Kobe got in a helicopter accident but they said it is. If like you're saying he's GONNA be. I will be fine. He got an accident he will be okay. There was not the second dripping of the news with this. There is no. He's an accident. He's in critical condition and then he passes away two days later. It was just like you're going through your day you're on twitter. Or whatever whatever you're scrolling through and and and people are tweeting nonsense and terrible memes and all that and then all of a sudden. There's a tweet Kobe. Bryant's dead. There's no there's no buffer is like we're here now we're over here and it was just. Yeah I mean that's how my brain process it was like Shirley he's not dead surely he's just going to go to the hospital. They're gonNA do whatever the magic like whenever you're rich whatever it is they do they sprinkle money on the guy or whatever the problem with the they're gonNA give them the celebrity medicine. Make them all better and rehab. Whatever is problems are an nine or ten months? He's GonNa come out of Lakers game and waving crowds going to go crazy and and he's going to be back and that's what's going to happen that's how it has to happen because that's how I my brain has always processed like has to happen that way and so to see a story like no. That's not how it happened. He's dead he was alive. Snap a finger now. He's not it's over it's permanent. It's it's very very sobering. And Yeah I think that's what factors into for you know at least as for. Maybe I shouldn't speak for everyone else but I've noticed that that that's a that's an interesting thing about all this. Is that so many people do seem to to share that sentiment. That like I wasn't wasn't necessarily the biggest Kobe fan or they have all these things. But it's like my God this absolutely correct me and did meet so like I couldn't believe a man like I. I was with my friend I go home to. I was like keeping it all together as digest the news and all that the second I got home and I was by myself I started bawling my eyes out and I ah even as I'm crying I'm like what am I doing. I don't understand what's happening but it was just like a raw emotion of of everything and I don't know it's it's been it's been crazy and I think I think this is the first person that I can kind of remember an sports vein at least in my lifetime where it didn't feel like it was like you said he was art class like he was a kid. I got detailing Jordan's Milivoje exactly like that's it wasn't that was our guy that's everyone is. This is Kobe Bryant. We all know Kobe Bryant. I've seen all the to me like Kobe. Derrick jeeter tiger woods. We're all in this class at Reich. These three guys are untouchable. They're invincible for whatever whatever reason. I don't understand how it works. I don't understand how Tiger Woods can be on sixteen in Augusta and ship it in. I don't understand. Tiger Woods can like break his back in half and like a lot of airplanes and win the master and then all of a sudden yeah. He's fine and you've wanted the and understand how Kobe Bryant everything could seemingly fall apart the way they do it is because they are immortal. That's how he does it in the resurrection of Kobe. Bryant's career from when he goes from eight to twenty four and he comes back and he could have theoretically won three straight. Titles of await works out differently in these little moments and for Kobe. Brian to see him It's it's our guy we see him go like I remember when Dale Earnhardt Jr.. When that happened I remember that? They'll senior Dell Dell senior died in two two thousand one. I remember being like ten years old was and I remember watching sports center that night and when they said that you know it was the whatever was like he hit his head against the wall and it was the brain in injury and then he had actually passed away. Like my mom and dad had turned off sportscenter because they didn't want to deal with the fact that that was actually reality. And I remember before that when Payne Stewart won the the US Open at Pinehurst. We all watch pain win than his plane went down And it was like that and it was gone and those are the only sports moments I remember just thinking like I it. It was H- he had that visceral reaction. This is reality. And they're gone but this one is so much more so than I don't even know how to explain that the oldest not it's not useful to rank more hits. I remember just trying to contextualize it and even like you said the earnhardt thing was. I vividly remember. That was at a Pacer game that day and they came on the the jumbotron breaking news at the at the patriots as the last lap. Daytona right yeah yeah yeah he hit the wall in a uh but for that one even like it. Maybe I'll miss remembering but like the initial story wasn't that he was dead stories. That is is in Iraq is taken to the hospital. Everyone's hope deals okay and then reports come out and it's like Dale Earnhardt's in serious condition or whatever it is like Oh damn prayers for Dale and then you find out that he died select not that it makes it any you know. I'm not comparing it. But it's like they're sort of like a progression of the story and with the Kobe thing was like no. It was the first thing you heard anything was I hadn't thought about Kobe. Bryant and thought about it because the Brown book the record but I had no thought on like what Kobe Bryant was doing with his day on Sunday and he'll be very first. The very first thought I had of him doing his day was when I learned that he had passed away. And it's crazy to think that the thing how how quickly that will happen. You're talking about how we were. We were Koby kids. I am wearing my An old most people are listening to this but I am wearing my authentic. I think it's what does that eleonore. What that logo is to be on the inside to? They'll say the WHO forty visits such throwback I`Ma MMA at the risk of making this about me that's what that's a big criticism of media people when people is like your until eulogizing people and you make it too much about yourself Kobe to me like the reason. This is authentic. I had this back in. I bought this ninety nine. Two thousand whatever was right when the Lakers about three zero I was I was a massive zip kid when I was little. And I've talked about this a little bit before my origin story and basketball's that basically I hit puberty like four years before all of my peers. which is how I got on a ut with commonly only known in the first place which is it explains my entire life? Finally hit puberty than I I'm not taught you're not listening to me talk right now so when I was little I was a big that makes sense and I love shack for that reason because I thought I was shacking. Yeah all my friends came up to my nipples at at the highest point My second friend it was up to my nipples probably and I was just like Dunkin kids on seven foot Ramsey's so when she got traded to the Lakers. I just went all in on the Lakers. Because I thought this is. This is why I watch shack lose Jordan. All those years and then he gets swept by allies one in the finals. And then he goes to the Lakers and I was like all right. I think he's going to do it at the lake. I WANNA see Shack when it tied all that kind gotta stuff very quickly. He gets to L. At the same time. Kobe does very quickly. Kobe became not my favorite player but like the guy I wanted to be like. I stopped I. I watched like every Laker game those on TV this is even before they started winning. Titles this was like ninety. Six Ninety seven ninety eight the spurs were beaten Dunkin's and Robinson birth. I'm watching all the Lakers Games. And I'm like Shakespeare expert my favorite player all these years. But my dad coby so fun. Kobe's the coolest guy on earth. Yours is so cool With the FRO and the attitude and he was he was. Yeah Michael I was a little too young I mean I got the tail end of Jordan all that but I wasn't along for the whole Jordan ride like my brother was so my brother is all in Jordan Shaq and Kobe became my guys and Kobe's were the first pair of shoes I actually bought My whole basketball life. I only wore like chuck's and Adidas Superstars and the first pair of of of signature shoes that my parents bought for me for the I think they were called the KGB. twos eight or something. Yeah I was like fifth grade. They bought me the Kobi's and I love them so much that I would take them to school. And and for P. Class I would change out of whatever sneakers. I'd worn to school it. It was like Mr Roger Situation where he takes off once on another. I already had like basketball shoes on. And I would take those off and put the Kobe's on and my teacher started calling me Kobe. He's a friend friend of my dad's to this day. P teacher still knows the first name I ever got. My life was colby to this day. My Pe teacher still calls me covy. He'll ask my database. Hey how how's how's Kobe. Doin' my dad's a great moved out to L. A.. Whatever whatever it's like this little thing again I don't mean to like make this about me or whatever but that's just like my dad was telling me about that and I I was? I was like balm is I don't know what's going on I don't know I don't know where that story's going no I just I. It's a Kobe Kobe. It was the coolest guy on earth to the kids of our age and a lot of people. He you know didn't resonate. A lot of people went straight from Jordan to WHO Lebron in terms of like. They're the guys they love the most and that's the weirdest thing is like Kobe was never. I would never say that. He was my favorite player in the League. But he was always always always always the coolest one hundred percent. If I could like emulate anybody. I wanted to be like Kobe but I hope I showed better like Lebron better but like Kobe's definitely cooler than that both both okay. I think you made the perfect point. which is what I wanted to make about? Kobe and the system comes back to like this whole conversation about the greats basketball. And what we do with all these subjective conversation position and the reason why all that's an issue and it's kind of wild that something. This sobering can lead to this realization for a lot of people but Koby always considered the middle child which is basically like Michael Jordan. Ordinance Marsha James Cindy Kobe's Jan yen. All Kobe talked about all the time was Michael. Michael Michael always wanted into here and talk about was. I'm going to be the Michael and like you said you grew up being shack fan which led to be in a Kobe Fan. 'cause they're on the same team. They did the three peat for me. I ahead all older cousins. I'm the youngest and everyone is a Michael Jordan Fan. Michael Jordan Went Carolina. We all love Michael Jordan and Kobe. Bryant was this eighteen year old brash kid coming out of Philadelphia and he was saying not only did he not only was he going to be the greatest of all time but he was going to be the greatest of all time without doing the one thing that that everyone at the time. Thought you had to do which is get the coastline of a blue blood. Go to go to college basketball and get Duke or North Carolina Kansas Kentucky. You ever may be not to say oh. That guy knows how to play the game of basketball. He's going to be a great star. Sort of like you know Vince. Carter in around the same age as Kobe and they were. You know right around the same line so to me Vince. Carter was the coolest and I loved. Vince Carter so there was every single reason for me to not like Kobe Bryant. In fact I didn't WanNa like Kobe Bryant but the thing that a never made me feel anything towards Kobe. Bryant other than respect is the Kobe Bryant talked all that talk which you said was being cool I remember the dunk contest. brandies over there like throwing them the Tin Tin. You know like you know. They're dating at the time and Kobe's doing all that you know talk and all that talk. And he was brash. He was Kobe he was whatever but he backed it up. Always backed up and and it was and it wasn't a Braggadocio way of backing it up. It was more of Lake. This guy told you day one. I am going to be the greatest and then he didn't just sit around and flounder. He went to the gym every single day I saw Alan Iverson is a little tribute. He was first time. COVINA had dinner. Ninety six thousand nine hundred seven whatever their rookie year so we're sitting Now were chatting and he asked me what I'm GonNa do later and I'm like I'm go the club like basically invited him out the gun and Kobe's like that's cool. I'm Jim Wright and Kobe in his mind is like Alan Iverson is probably more talented than me naturally more gifted maybe but I'm going to work every single person. which is the craziest thing about this? Whole stories that Colby we lived life like he sees every single day like a maniac and some people would say he was psychotic about how he craziest thing to me is that he you know maybe privilege isn't the right word but it's not like he? He was born the son of a great player. Brian on the sixers yeah. He's like friends with Kareem abdul-jabbar Kobe. His background is not it does not suggest like a guy who has to who has the grind and him or like all of that like you you could very easily be in his position and be like no. I'm good I'm already like one of the best high school the players. I just got drafted to the Lakers. On you know he was so translates to. We don't even view him as a second generation player like one of the knocks. You get on a Klay Thompson or Steph. Curry is that they were ingratiated. Aided in assistant right Kobe some level was an in fact him being over in Italy and having this reverend subculture and having the ability to speak Serbian dirty words like talk junk to people like these are the things that Kobe Bryant obsess over. And that to me is why he was so different because every day was a challenge to prove everybody everybody wrong and to prove what he said to be true which is like he may have talked at early on his career but then Kobe walked into the Max every single day and was a maniac about it. I mean Teresa ingredients on this morning he was like I had a lower back. Soreness in one of our games in Kobe came down. Hit Him in the back and he said I just want to test your back in engines. It's the same thing and Kobe was wired in a different way. He said I'M GONNA be I'm Jay and he pretty much was was that's incredible and if he had won three in a row. We we talk about this to each other all fares. Kobe wins in two thousand eight and he has six titles and he did it and he took the brig just like Jordan did switch to switch numbers like thousands leg version of Michael Jordan. Basically you're talking about his work ethic and and I want to like expand on that to have a larger discussion about Being in La In his importance to L. A.. And and I'm probably the wrong guy to speak on this. I I moved out here about a year ago. Go almost exactly I lived here. I didn't live here. I come out here for months at a time for a few years. There said I'd be here like two or three months and then go back back to Ohio for six months and then come back out for So I I've been around a little bit but I've been out here permanently for about a year and one thing that stood out even before for Sunday is just how much people love Kobe. And I know this is not new breaking news by any means but It was crazy I went to the Barber Arbor for like six months. This this place in Culver City in the barber we had the exact same conversation because he never remembered that I kept coming like he just completely forgot he thought it was my first time and every time and every time he would hit with the where you from Bro and I'd say Ohio anybody. How do you feel about the brand that I was like you know? He's a great player. Like it's Kinda weird that he left Ohio uh-huh and like Ohio's cool with it but you know bring titled Ohio so like People Know How really love him and he was like I don't I don't i. Don't mess with the Brun I was like. Are you Lakers. A love Lakers acres but all muscle Lebron and then I remember the first time was getting my haircut there. Why and he explained the whole thing like Kobe Kobe city this will always be a Kobe city the Bryan thinks he can NBA Kobe? He'll never be Kobe. And that was my introduction to that so then I started paying more attention to that. You're driving around L. A.. And and just talking to other Laker fans you know and it's so crazy because if you live out here and you have any sort of social circle whatsoever and that an and you're into sports I guarantee you know somebody who's who who thinks of Kobe Bryant as God. There's somebody in that circle that loves Kobe. Bryant and I think when you're on the outside looking in and this was certainly the case Romy me living in Ohio. It was always a little head scratching and I know people like everyone. Involved with the Lakers. Magic himself calls Kobe. The greatest leaker not even just 'cause he passed away like we were just watching his final game name those being broadcast on. ESPN Tonight and magic calls him the greatest Laker then and everyone calls the greatest leader. If you're on the outside you're not from La you're not a Laker fan and like this is absurd. Shack was top five lists. That don't even have they don't have koby on and it's so absurd. And there's this disconnect of people who loved Kobe and always did and people who who like I mean he's a good player but like what's the big deal about him and I I'm not gonNA pretend to like make a connection and tried to explain Again I'm not. I'm not a lifelong La residents. I'M NOT GONNA speak for those people but I don't know if I was if I was to guess I would say the one thing that stood out to me being here for your is that L. A. is a much more blue collar city than I realized I think the perception of L. A.'s glitz and glamour obviously all the celebrities all that there are millions and millions of blue collar. People here who are just like busting their ass This this is very much a city it has and have nots. And they are far more have nots live in the city and the have nots love and they guy like Kobe Bryant and they're like that is a guy who I mean he was born. You could argue. He was born into privilege but like he. He outworked that reputation that that that of being a kid that was born on third like maybe that could be true but he works so damn hard that like you you would never throw that in his face you would never say Kobe. Bryant was good because of who has father was And I think that's admirable to to to people that's why I mean the head to be like what the what the the the big draw was for him like just he always always always was willing willing to to work even when he didn't necessarily have that was ingrained in his DNA in resonated with people. You mentioned his last night they had the promo video like basically the tribute video which you know watching washing now is even more eerie. You know than than I could even imagine. Jack Nicholson at the end of the video. He says thank you Brian. You've been the biggest star in La for the past twenty years. And I think I think that's the way to sum up in a in a town of stars in the town. Where every single big name? If you make it you're GONNA go to L. A.. I'm even if you make New York you know you're gonNA eventually make this big hopped l. a. and you're the big movie star. Whatever Kobe Bryant was still bigger than everyone if Kanye West to sit in a room with lady Gaga and Kobe Bryant walks in La? They're getting up and saying coach. Brian this is going to be a huge thing for me. And I think the Grammy's being in staple center last night I mean it was almost too. Surreal also surrealist. Yeah in in in for Liz. Come out and open the show up and you know just to say rest in peace Kobe Bryant and then Felicia keys the whole tribute for them to show his Jersey's lit up in the rafters and to have this whole moment for Kobe Bryant. It still doesn't really sink in it. It still is not something to be exactly. It still feels as I'm watching all the coverage Even today like so so I thought like Sunday I would process it all and just just kind of like sit there with my mouth open. Just be like what what has happened. Be Emotional all that kind of stuff planned today. When I woke up first of all I was I was playing on waking up and just like forgetting it happened or like being told us a dream or something like that and the very I thought I had my woke up? It was like Kobe. This is unbelievable. I couldn't believe in and I was like you know what I'm not going to be said I was crying yesterday. And we've already been over that like that was a weird emotion to the be so emotional. I'M GONNA try to celebrate today I'm GonNa try to watch all of these highlight videos and all this stuff and and that spilled over. I was watching all the stuff on youtube unless built over me. Turn on my TV. And I'm watching every outlet on earth and It's it's so wild to see all of the characters in sports media that exists. We this is an industry One thing that's happened from this is you've learned real quick Sudesh chicken. Who Does it in this business? Because the the guys who you know are are ham it up every day very somber and I guess you could say that about us. I'm not I usually make Dick Jokes on the show. I'm not really doing that right now. so I was watching all that and and even as watching it and I know what happened I I still dislike. Feel like I'm just watching his final game like I'm still feel like it's just all of these. Networks are just showing all this stuff because Kobe Bryant just retired and and I'm like the. There's there's a part of my brain that's like we get a guys. He's not playing basketball anymore. The Guy didn't die and then you're like no. He did die. Oh my God he really actually died But that's that's where my mind kept going is like he can't actually be dead but I think again. I think this is like a general sentiment. You can't envision a world where Kobe Bryant is not alive and Kobe Bryant is not an NBA. Kobe Bryant is not an elder statesman in the NBA. Mentoring during all these kids that are coming into the League That was his destiny and that was not even NBA just like basketball at large. I think one of the more fascinating things about him and and certainly why the basketball world is like so torn up is not just that he was a great player. Great players come and go. We're Kobe falls on the list of the best player. Ever in the top. Twenty five. Who Really Cares But there will be played better than Kobe. Bryant that come along that some say they're already in the NBA. Whatever what was so cool about him was he was one of those those guys that that if you if you are invested in basketball as much as you and I are and I'm not quite enough to the NBA Hall of famers? I'm just saying we are very much basketball guys and have been her whole life. There's this affinity for the game quote unquote and it's all about the game and we made jokes about this with Rick Pitino and When he was defending himself from all scandals he would always say like? I never cheated the game and and that's just like A. There's a common thread between everyone who whose life whose livelihood is basketball is this this Appreciation preserving the game of teaching the game. The game is so important and Kobe was a guy who who understood that who just like live that who when he retired variously could have taken his money and ran. Dan Could've done whatever you wanted to do. But it was all about the game and he passed away doing that like he wanted to go into his daughters game. He he's paying four hundred coaches daughters not yet. Yeah and this was always like in that that to me is not an insignificant detail. I think like we were watching this tonight. I wrote this down this one note. I WanNa make sure I had because we were watching the final game that was playing there on. ESPN and magic is the speech before the game starts and in his speech one of the very first thing he said is Kobe. Bryant is never cheated the game so this is this is what I made Kevin Durant says. Thank you for everything you've done for. The game of Basketball Steph says. Kobe has had a huge impact on the game. And the game is in a much better place because of what you've done and these are just the over and over and fill called him in embassador about this was before he passed away. This is his final game That he ever played an MBA. That kind of stuff a a is is it it matters in why it resonates so much. Why all these young guys that are in the NBA? That didn't necessarily play with Kobe. And I I know. We had a lot of relationships with a lot of the guys but some of them there was just like and they're still torn up because it's not just their idol. It's like their mentor as well. And it's this ambassador for basketball all that that you know if if Kobe Bryant could have been commissioner and then be in no one would have better night and if you would brian it'd be Magic Johnson. Standing in the middle of Yes yes center congratulating someone else twenty years writers. You know twenty years from now that is who is supposed to be. He's supposed to be the next man he's supposed to be the next ambassador for the Lakers and I think thank you talked about. He could have taken his ball and gone home and just let it be if there was any reason to do that. It's because Lebron James came to the Lakers right. It took that that it took took his throne quoting the one now and instead of doing that and being that way which I'm I'm the biggest Michael Jordan fan probably around honestly like got low Michael Jordan. I don't say anything bad about him Mug. which would would not have done that? If if Kobe Bryant on the Chicago Bulls and tried to take his throne but koby sitting front row they right. He's stepping up Lebron on because again. It's about the game because again I think the biggest knock on Kobe's the biggest miss I. I think a lot of people that are great. There is always misconceptions about who they are. And what their motivations relations are and I think the biggest misconception about Kobe. Bryant's motivations were that. They were selfish and they were not so they were. Never retrospect and this is probably the biggest air the media people made and and I'm sure they're reflecting and thinking this is is yeah. They weren't selfish. They were again for the game. This is why like the whole beef with shack like when it happened. I was shack guy so I was like you know I'm signed Michelle Akers the heat and I was like yeah. I probably didn't love Kobe at that time But looking back you're like of course the shack. Kobe like to give anything less than your best. Is Steve Prefontaine to anything. Less than your best is a sacrifice of the gift that was Kobe's mentality if shacks mentality is like I'm already the greatest variety one titles. I WanNa have some fun. I'M GONNA make some movies. I'M GONNA make rap albums. I'm GONNA on enjoy celebrity status. Kobe was like I'm I play the game. I I respect the game. That's all I care about and a lot of ways durant's that way right now and and I think it's interesting that that I mean I don't know if this is the foreign to make that point but like the ranch strikes me in the same way that people hate him so much and and he's he's so vilified for for you know could join in the war you're beginning selfish decision for making selfish decision. And it's about him getting the ring whereas like he's been consistent with his approach the whole time he's like I just love the game and like going into the warriors wasn't about necessarily winning her ring. Warriors made him fall back in love with basketball. Yeah it was about basketball worry. He was the game in which is why I found it fascinating that even in that goodbye. That was the one the one comment that durant had was. Thank you for everything you've done for the game because durant has has the similar makeup of like my life is the game of basketball and always will the and and Kobe was that way which is why it wasn't. NBA Basketball his. His breach to colleges is shocking. His impact on the college game his impact on Women's and basketball like obviously with his daughters but to see all the tributes pouring in from all the women's programs around the country and it's not just because of his daughter. You know like I don't think I don't think you can. In in Oregon was torn up by the Oregon Oregon State Game I saw and I'm probably missing some others. There's been so much stuff to consume these last couple of today's but I don't think that was exclusively because his daughter was a good player. I think that was just in Kobe. Bryant DNA that he wanted to to make the game of basketball at all levels all all genders all everything International at home whatever whatever it is the game of basketball matter greatly to this man and he was going to give his life to it and he ultimately really did and I think I was talking about people viewing Kobe selfish. And I think I'm the biggest culprit of that because I remember two thousand two when they were going for the three peat. I did now with the Lakers. To get a three peat. Because I thought that was very special and immortalized with my yard and he had done it. You know the first time around ninety one nine two nine three then came back and did a good ninety six ninety seven ninety eight and when Kobe was going for that the fourth game. They're going for this week. The Nets are not great. You know what I mean. They're just happy to be here at this point. And the fourth game he comes in a full Michael Jordan Jordan. He's wearing a Michael Jordan jerseys or in Chicago Wolves everything and at the time I found that you know I'm ten years old or whatever I was and I and and I was hurt by that because I thought that he was trying to say like I am him now and what if you look back what has been after the game of basketball to twenty sixteen since. He's left half the game and what Kobe is done and what he said after that. We're talking about the fact that he respected the way that Michael Jordan was able to be that much of a competitor to be Michael Jordan to the green that he wanted to idolize that person. And it's so funny. I was watching that footage behind the scenes and Kobe's wearing the stuff in there after the game and shack says to him. He's like it's about time you put on Your Jersey Ray and Co we just starts laughing says about that time. He's like smoking cigars and he's had a little moment and it's like 'cause Kobe Bryant wasn't doing he was wearing the join orange because he was trying to think about Kobe Bryant. At that moment he was wearing a because he was like my idol. Who I saw new this to be a champion? I have this moment now. I made it to this point. I want to pay homage to him into the game that we are here. We are the next iteration with the baton has been passed to us. And that obviously doesn't trigger with you and your you view him as like an enemy or whatever and I was pulling for the nets at the time but then seeing that moment checks into that him to him seeing his reaction it was almost like you finally got the Pat on the back. You know what I like is if he'd been waiting for shack say that to him right 'cause they were obviously running mates shocking for the second chip lily points at. Kobe won times. Like that's the reason we won this shape. Yeah he's the one that's running this team. It's not me even though he's probably the best player on the team but koby he loved the game will Michael Did and he wanted to be that. I mean maybe a silver lie. Yeah I mean this is again like there are no silver lining. This is horrible. It's devastating all that kind of stuff but It would be cool if a lesson we could all learn from this is like stop ranking players. Who gives who cares who cares who cares really? We don't we don't need to sort through. I think he'll be was better that he shouldn't have won the MVP in two thousand six. You know what I mean. It's like who came out like the lesson you learn is like all these guys generally do just love the gate like Lebron Kobe Hobie Jordan. Maybe they do care. Maybe the but I don't think they do. I really generally don't think that the Kobe Bryant cares whether he thought of is better than Michael Jordan or Lebron. Brian James I really don't i. I think. Kobe Bryant cared about. I'm going to give everything I have to this game for. As long as I'm on this earth and however people won't see my legacy I'll l.. Leave that to them. I don't care I'm I wanNA know that I gave it my all and And he respects like like you said like he obviously allies Jordan. He wanted to be Jordan. He said I'm going to be my onshore. Basically and he did become Michael Jordan as as close as anyone's ever come to Michael Jordan all the way down to the mannerisms of the way and it felt dizziness at the time. But in as you look back and you see Z.. Everything it's like no. This guy was literally studying. Michael Tracy McGrady told this whole story. It was like when he met Kobe when they were younger. He went to his house with Joe and everyone and he was like. We're watching 'EM J. taped together. And he's that I've never seen someone start like rewinding to go back to play and you look at him. I was wrong with this guy and like Kobe's watching tape. When he's supposed is be watched right 'cause he was that infatuated with the idea of being great and now he and now he feels that felt that way by the Brun? There's no part of him. That's lakes. Screw this kid. That's taken over my franchise and whatever and the same is true of Jordan to both of those guys like Jordan is and I mean I think as fans you just you just assume that all of these guys guys hate each other and and but but as it turns out the fans care way more Colson patriots fans care way more about Tom Brady versus paid man in the Tom. Brady Payton Manning I've ever ever cared. They've both just like you know like we're happy to the great who they're both like. Joe Montana whatever I did not WANNA play. Yeah Yeah Yeah what it comes down to this day bird magic. WHO's better like neither one of those guys cares? WHO's better they they they will both you know and I know people probably listen to this? And they're like you can't. I actually believe that I guarantee that Jordan wants to. I don't I don't necessarily think that's true to be honest with you. I think Jordan probably quite like of course they're going to talk trash of course if you got all those guys is on the court at the same time. They're going to think that they're the best but as far as like keeping them up at night. There's no way there's no way that like Michael Jordan is losing sleep saying like is Lebron James. Going going to take over my legacy as the greatest ever know it. It's it's it's stupid it's stupid it's a waste of time for everyone and when you see today and you had this conversation now it does seem completely like a waste of time. I kinda WanNa talk about the told you about the Kobe. Bean and middle child. It's kind of funny. 'cause like Michael's a black cat Kobe's the black Mamba Ombu and then Harrison. Barnes is the Black Falcon. Those those those are the those are the three black nicknames that they got black cap like Mama blog and hair call to the Black Falcon. Yes when he was check this fact check it. This was like coming out of high school. This was like in. Kobe gave him the cosign. Any war Kobe's at Carolina. Much to the Chagrin of Michael Jordan. Every single time. We saw that team he would say. Take Them Damn said. The Harrison Barnes and I sail is to say Kobe Bryant was the Black Mamba. For the reason that you never know Mama was going to strike a mama's not provoked a Mamba just strikes. Yeah and Kobe. Bryant's entire career was kind of like that. You couldn't really believe that he became what he said he was going to become. You couldn't believe that in these moments and these crunch time moments that he genuinely wanted the basketball and you go back and you study who Kobe. Bryant was his meditation and there's a lot the people that are going to get freaked out by this whole conversation right now but the quantum field exists right. We live in. Let's go there. Yeah this is the three dimensional round we live in and there is the fifth dimension and many more dimensions. If you in your mind can create it and Kobe. Bryant is one of those people you read his Reno interviews with them from the ninety s because I just wanted to see how much this man was. Basically a prognosticator Peter for his entire career saying I want to hit this benchmark. I wouldn't do that. He said he wanted me the greatest all sort of all time. He leads the All Star game in points like all the time. Vp All starve. All this sort of to start predicting this stuff you would talk about interviews and I'm not saying that Kobe. Bryant is a ascended to a different realm of reality. I'm not saying that he is in a different different field The quantum field does exist of course but he may have at times he may have ascended to a different level because Gilbert Arenas told his amazing story in two thousand six he worked out with Kobe Bryant and he said he stole all of his moves. Right he was like a left that practice. And he's and he's like Kobe Bryant stole my Moussaoui's mad and he said he came back the next day Eh and Kobe Bryant was doing all of his moves to him and he was like getting more frustrating. He's like this guy's doing he's like beating me as me right. He's he's recognize me and it was all a mental game amen. Kobe's mind and that's like that to me is like the brain of into Kobe. Bryant's brain in his mind in his mental makeup. It may be board than Michael Jordan's like my Jordan was so straight-forward like I just WanNa win. I'm Dick Michael Jordan Vault inside the box. I'm GonNa beat this guy I'm GonNa go on this site dimensions. Yeah he'll be was a fifth dimensional thinkers and the fifth dimension which is saying which is why we thought is immortal. Yes because all all these things that you just explained like like would who who who who. Who does this like possible? It's all I know. That's why I was dismissing. Even when Kobe in two thousand was an eight when they lost the Celtics and he said they were gonNA come back and win a title the next year I was telling you I was like I thought that was there. One shot like I was like. Oh Yeah it's it's back back the Mamba Mentality did. It's I will say this like I probably rolled my eyes. Like as the Mama mentality was taken off was was the snarky est years of my life. 'cause I was in my early twenty S. Everything is the dumbest thing on earth. The South Park the episode. Where everything is this crap? Remember when stand sues everything that was that was metering the Italians and as I've gotten older and and look back on it all and everything like the one crazy lesson about Kobe Bryant that I take from from everything that his approach to the game approach to life. All that kind of stuff was was a lesson that I learned way too late in life. And I'm I'm only thirty two. I'm not super old but I wish I would have known this when I was younger. which is the process is so much more important to focus on than the result and he was always that way where he like? I said his goal wasn't necessarily he. He's he's not I don't I don't think it consumed him to be the greatest of all time and in the sense of like if I'm not the greatest of all time among the failure well he was more focused on. I'M GONNA wake up today and I'm GonNa Bust my ass to be as good as I can possibly the B. and I'm GonNa do that tomorrow and I'm going to the next day and I'm GonNa live my entire life. I'm more focused on the process and however it shakes out. I can't control that. I can't control what the results are. Which is why I think you so fearless when he took last second shots? 'CAUSE HE's like I've prepared myself to get to this point whether it goes into not is ultimately not up to me at this point. I'm GONNA shoot it. I I've I've done all the work. If the result is not the end result that I wanted. I'm not going to focus on that because tomorrow if we if this shot kicks us out of the playoff tomorrow. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be working and when the next next opportunity comes on we'll be ready for that one and this was something that that in my life. I was the exact opposite. I was the guy who I would much rather take a class for example school and get an a plus and not exert ounce of effort than like a B. plus learn a ton of stuff and and and you know feel fulfilled from whatever that experience. This was And I don't know that's like something I will take with me. Not just like I've I've been trying to like really think that way in my life and Kobe I'm not going to pretend I'm like I have Kobe pictures on my wall. And he's like an inspiration in my life but that certainly is that approach People who do that. I admire so greatly because I don't know that's like the Big Gillespie I would i. I give the people and I know we have a lot of like younger listeners. In High School and college kids so I don I don't mean to be your parents lecturing here but that is that is something that I think. it's super super important in the younger. You learn that that that success is not measured by the end result. Like don't don't look like did I. Did I cheat. Don't all set. Don't make your goal like this. This definitive thing. I don't think this is my view maker goal like to honestly try your best and it sounds so stupid and hacky coming from you know usually when you hear. It's your third grade teacher like just try your best and follow your dreams and all that. But as I've gotten older I see how true that is that the the process if you to stay true to the process success zest will come and go. But in the end you'll you'll figure it out and everything will click and your legacy whatever that may be. Leave that up to others to decide. Because you'll know that that you you know when it's all said and done you you gave it all yet. My response agreed one hundred percent of that but the funniest thing I can think about what the Kobe situation in the conversation around. Kobe is like every single person. Whenever you're lying right and someone calls you on it? The first thing you do is try to explain what happened which is to say that you lied. And you're gonNa tell tell Y Y you're gonNA defend what you said. That's not a lie. Here's what and with Kobe. Bryant my favorite thing about him since he left the game of basketball in two thousand sixteen is every single the time he would sit down and they would ask him GonNa come back lovie. You're gonNA come back yet. You'RE GONNA do this Lebron's come and you WANNA play. Lebron you do this. He'd never wavered in the sense that it wasn't even a thought and I think a lot of times guys will hanging up. Even you know Michael Jordan did this. He hung it up and then he sat around and he said I don't know what to do with myself. I need to come back to the game of basketball. Kobe Bryant had exerted so much effort and expanded every single ounce of himself on the basketball court that he knew there was nothing else. There's nothing else and I don't know how many people we've had that in the sports world that has been so content at the end but that point it would be very easy for him to say. Okay Michael had six. I had five live. I have to keep going until I get into. But that wasn't that's what I'm saying. It's not that's a results oriented way of thinking about it is like I have to win as many titles as Michael Well did or else. I'm a failure the Mamba mentality in my eyes. The Way I interpret the moment holiday is don't look at the titles that's that's the byproduct that is not the that that is not what you are trying to do. Is Dimensional results three-dimensional. Yes do the five dimensional focus on the process. Give it your all and when you're out you're out that's it's it and it's over and whether you one zero titles or five or twelve It's irrelevant because you did. All of that is left to chance to certain extent it matters like what franchise as you drafted to who your teammates are all sorts of factors factor into how many titles you win All that stuff. You can't control to certain extent you. Could you know as much as people I think one player can win basketball games. That's not true. There's a lot of outside forces that go into that. What would there are no outside forces go into is is the effort you exert every day like how much? You're devoting your life to this purpose. You've you're striving to achieve And he was consistent with that every step of the way as you said even in all star are games which is like honestly that you can boil his legacy down to that is like the guy busted his all star All Star Games because he he doesn't know any other way he's like I'm out here. I'M GONNA kill everybody because that's what I do and I don't I can't I can't take plays off. It's not my DNA any never has any never will and I'll tell you this like the Charlotte. Hornets drafted Kobe Bryant thirteenth overall. If Kobe Bryant go onto the Charlotte Hornets. I don't know if you won five championships. I don't know what the the end result would have been but I don't think the Charlotte Hornets would have sold the franchise. I don't I will tell you this like Kobe. Bryant was that much of a transcendent person in the building around around other people. And that is why. You've seen the Lakers. They can't even really they've been really put out a full response yet because there's so many people in the building that don't view Kobe Bryant as the superstar player on the the court you. Kobe Bryant Kobe going around the office. Hopes dabbing up. Who So until you hear this about people that that I know plenty of people in this industry. True that that don't let didn't love Kobe. And then they meet him and they're like he's the most charismatic guy like the guy when you over so easily and he would answer for the Shit you would column on. Yeah like that was the thing with Kobe. He would like when Tracy McGrady says he came down L. Mode being my sore bag Kobe's laughing. He's like yeah he's like. I just want to see if your back was okay. Okay like that old ribbing and like Luke donkeys early in the year and I know this is more new age stuff but he was like speaking Serbian with Kobe. Kobe Bryant was so much of an ambassador of basketball globally. The vast this guy is so big in Italy that their morning him an entire country in Italy like you you think about Kobe in North Carolina. How Big Yoda's like in China? I mean this is like they're losing an assault. Real Madrid was like today practice at a moment of silence. A goal for in two thousand four celebration. I mean just the reach of this man and I. It's I feel like it became a book like a joke at times. You know like it was more fun because every wants to poke fun at everyone especially Geico because he is so self serious. Yeah the reason that he was so self serious was because there were not as often as my look at the away two thousand eight at the Olympics in Beijing. The rest of the team is younger. Dwayne Lebron guys and you can tell that they're like trying to get there like older friend Kobe in on the game and he's just kind of like what you thought you thought you know. I I think I I shouldn't say you. I thought at times it was performance. I thought like coby was again what he's supposed to he was. He knew that the cameras in his face. And he's trying to be Jordan. Because this is like Jordan would straight face. I'm GONNA have a straight face and as the years go by again. He's just consistent no matter what the thing he's talking about his was daughters. I basketball team. And he's got that same like fire in his eyes as he talks about that. You realize Oh my God this is just this way this is just how he's wired. It's it's incredible. I remember one of those times. We were at dinner dinner With Roy Hibbert and we ask them about Kobe practice and it was the infamous Kobe. Like he's yelling at Mitch Cup Jack. He's like gets. Give these bums Outta here. You know in two thousand fourteen year. Wasn't there terrible that they're gonNA get Diangelo Russel in the draft next year. And he's basically spending the entire practice young emiss- cryptic about how terrible Jordan Hill and the rest. The team is you know. He's like Jordan. Clarkson terrible nick youngster. He's like putting everybody out and just saying their garbage their bombs like I came in practice with these guys and a lot of people were saying. Oh he knew the cameras were there where he knew cup was there. He's doing this. Offer the cameras and then we asked Roy Hibbert he was like no. That's just Kobe. This is every single day. Pretty Light Day you know for what he usually would say he probably toned it down because the cameras and that pretty much speaks volume to who Kobe was and he also again going back to the whole middle child thing. He got the Jordan generation to do the Lebron generation like without Kobe Bryant and without Tim Duncan those two guys together they're the NBA does not survive. Say That magic and bird were able to come in the seventies and make that happen. been like they were the bridge years and you think of them as bridge years. But they're now they're beautiful games. Spurs Lakers Robbery General Unbelievable in the Kings in the early two thousand thousands of trailblazer. All these games and moments that Kobe like he had so many he had nine lives. I mean he was just like all over the place and everything time you kinda thought this might be the end. Even when he toured the killers in two thousand twelve against the warriors and he cares. Barnes Black Falcon Garden Him and he goes and shoots the free throws. I didn't think this is the last ever Koby Compete for championships. Kogo go back. The next year is finally find a way always who knows. Oh man it's it's brew it's been crazy just like drive around L. A. Today and a little bit yesterday just driving past murals and Again like it being in. La for is wild. I can't yeah I don't know what the experiences outside of. La I don't maybe it's the same maybe people in other cities it's the same GonNa but there's definitely like a somber mood you see people wearing his. I must have seen thirty Kobe jerseys today. I didn't really do anything kind of set my apartment. Go out take Moses on a walk and you'd see people it's it's it's I I don't know I. I was speechless for the longest time. I don't think it's ever really gonNA sit in sink in But I I don't know maybe there are lessons to learn from this like the the the craziest thing is like the NBA's playing games. And I was talking to one friend about this like I can't believe they were playing games. They Koga would want them to play and I was like. Yeah but I get like Kobe. Kobe mentality would be like playthrough. Like whatever just always play like wouldn't cope also want his friends to like the people that I love him to not be like torn up to by Franco's now Kobe won. You tell them to stop crying. I mean man up and get your ass out there and play was that he was like damn true. Sounds like you were Chris. Paul was at practice. And he's like I can't planet is game like Coby Brown like you know. Get your ass up there. Yeah what are you trying about how he's always been and that's why you talk about forty one years right. I mean twenty of those twenty or forty one years respect in the national almost half his life or in the NBA Which means it was public for all of us to watch but the of all the things that he did in those forty one years I mean that is a full life in forty one in years has made won an Oscar? This man has a sports academy already set up. This man has his Jersey Jersey's retired. This is getting inducted in the hall of fame this year. All of these things that that all came together in that have already been checked off. I it just makes it all even more surreal. Because you just can't believe even watching the final game. It felt like like it was a professional four Kobe Bryant. It's crazy to think of what society the world. What what were you missed out on because you know that they were saying that at the final game like whatever you do next is you're going to have the black mom rheumatology? You're going to be great at it like you said he's been out of out of basketball for almost four years yet. Barely anytime at all is already won an Oscar Who the hell knows what the next thirty years of Kobe? Bryant's life what he would have done. A impact he would have had just gotTa underscores like people are not resources you know I think like you People human beings are not trees in a forest where one gets cut down your like. Who Cares we'll just play another one That's why the losses so devastating is. Because is I think. Most people who've been paying attention realized that Kobe Bryant wasn't just a guy who scored a lot of points and and stuck his bottom jen out or bottom teeth out when in when he hit big shots and that was all he was like. Most people are paying attention realize that humanity lost like a very very valuable asset. And you can't get that back you. I can't replicate it. There will be other great people in this world who will do great things. There will never be another Koby Bryant who Just was wired the way he was and and had the impact impact he had on so many people and I think that's what really sinks in and socks and there's really no other way to put a sock so there's no other way to put it. I I feel like just moving forward into like what is the legacy of Kobe. Bryant those conversations and we talked about this. I mean that is for the hall of fame. That is four right now. It it still Grievances still grieving. It's still you know us trying to piece together and put together. What is the Kobe Bryant? Who He was and where he was at the stage in life and bringing back to the Black Mamba mentality? I think that that mentality actually had shifted a bunch and I think and I'll say this because you're talking about De Koby WanNa be the goat or have six. I think in two thousand the six. Have you talked to Kobe. Bryant absolutely one hundred percent. You're probably right. There's no if ands or buts about that. Probably in his mind because he was so locked in on this larger vision but since he left the game of basketball a lot of people leave and they don't know what to do with themselves he completely dedicated himself to his family. From what we've seen any completely was all in on Gee's career and I think knows much as this is a Kobe Bryant. podcast the basketball podcast and as much as Kobe. Bryant is an ambassador for the game of basketball men's basketball. He was an even bigger ambassador for the game of women's basketball and with G. G. and with Kobe and with the idea that Kobe was the biggest cosign of the WNBA. They just got this huge raise. For All the players and G G was Wanting to play a Yukon we've seen the Yukon Tennessee rivalry tried to get sparked backup and women's basketball. There were all these dominoes. Were falling the right way for you. Know Kobe Kobe g g the Ma all this sort of stuff and I don't think that it will be lost if that makes it and if anything it may be a complete wave from this because everyone everyone that met g g a friend of mine. His son was friends with G G. She was like Kobe. She was charismatic. She was different she played. I'd like him. She talked like him she they had. They're all little handshakes and moments and in meaningful things and I think no. There were nine people that were lost in a helicopter crash. And we don't want to lose sight of that that but the game of basketball itself gee-gee Bryant and Kobe Bryant both together what they will do and represent for the game of basketball. I think will ascend anything like we've seen quite some time. Yeah Yeah and I do believe that. my my thought on. It is I I've spoken publicly many times about my my I battle with depression and mental illness. And all that. There's one book to change my life and it's not A. It's a pretty famous book. If if you're well read a Mansard for meaning it was written by frink Viktor Frankl. I'm sure you've heard of it. There is a Holocaust survivor for those who don't know go by the book. Go read the book if you haven't if thirty times go read it again. It's it's the the best book I've ever read by far and Viktor Frankl is a Holocaust survivor. And he's writing about like basically. The premise of the book is like what is it at that that made him not give up on on struggles in life and you're facing just unbelievable diversity and you still continue to See the light at the end of the tunnel. What is in that that keeps us going? And his his thesis ultimate these. There are three things in life that that gives us purpose and one is love and loving people around you and finding an nurturing those relationships the other is your work creating things and and pour yourself into into to contributing to society and all that kind of stuff and the third is courage in times of difficulty and in his instance that would be the Holocaust and for me. I felt like if you can. If you can do any one of those things you have a purpose. In life and you can find fulfillment through any one of those avenues. Whether it's just like if your if your father just love your son or daughter and like that in and of itself is enough to keep you going everyday. Kobe Bryant to me did all three and he did it. With every ounce what's of of energy and determination that he had I mean and a lot of ways he didn't have a ton of struggles in life. He was rich kid and all that kind of stuff but you almost like created his own struggles. He would put like his own obstacles in front of him and he would say this is something that that is important to me to have that drive to to overcome these obstacles That was just how it was wired like his work and the obstacle part of it. We're sort of one of the same but He he had the three headed approach to that. I mean he loved his family as as we know it was that was well documented. How much she loved? The the family has his work is unparalleled And and his courage in the time of struggle so many times so many guys that kills thanks very easy to pack it in. He knew he had more in the thank. You came back I don't know how many guys would have done that at that age But but that's just how he was wired and that is why to me will be his legacy and I find it fascinating and not coincidental incidental. That when when so many people were remembered him yesterday and today and all that You didn't see a lot of people talk about Kobe and say like that. was you know like we're GonNa Miss. Kobe won five titles. We're GONNA Miss Kobe because he had thirty thousand plus points will mess up. Some of those people didn't even realize how much he had because his none of it matters because ultimately your legacy in this life is the love that you give along the way and this man loved his family. He loved the game of basketball. He loves those around him And that will continue on forever and that is true. All of us I think part of me would like as I was going through my existential crisis. Part of this whole this whole process as you look around and you you you wonder why world isn't stopping and a lot of ways it was like an are circles it was the world stopped but the world at large doesn't stop we could well. We're GONNA leave this podcast studio. We're GONNA drive around Los Angeles and they're gonna the people that are just trying to go to their job and get home to their kids and I I literally today a breakfast It had been twenty four hours since the news broke. I was sitting the table over. A woman was on her phone own and she said across from the Guy and she dropped her Georgios. Oh my God. Kobe die and the guy was like. What are you talking about yes? You're not paying attention new. She's like I had no idea and It kind of like like I'm sitting there thinking. How could nobody had any idea? This is the world should stop. We should all. We should cancel all everything not just basketball games like literally. Cancel everything this is monumental but the world doesn't stop and I think that becomes overwhelming because for me at first it was overwhelming. Because you think like if this guy guide doesn't ascend to a level that that All of society kind of stops pauses in reflects than what hoped though I have as just a lowly guy than I I am but then it becomes like free and when you realize that like you don't need to worry about all this stuff you don't need to worry about like if I acquire a certain level of wealth there're certain level of status in society. Then I will be like God like and the whole world revolves around me. That's impossible. You can't do that. You'll never be able to do that life. So instead of trying to acquire that stuff start focusing on the stuff that matters which is the love of the people around you and all that kind of stuff and I don't know if this was. I don't know if that was the the right time for for monologue but that is that is my lasting memories of Kobe. And why I don't think anyone it's a coincidence. That people weren't really focusing on the basketball part as much as they were focusing on his love for his daughter. His his all of his other stuff is Mama mentality. All that kind of stuff is ultimately. What's going to be his legacy and Kobe Bryant? Every single day when I remember he was on interview one time he said my goal of every single day is to be better. I wake up every that'd be better and that's exactly the approach. They took to everything and everything you just said I completely agree with within it is honestly It is one of the biggest tragedies of my entire life Just from everything. We've talked about here but just seeing and in living and being a part of this moment Kobe Bryant will never be forgotten Kobe. Brian will always be larger than life. Kobe Bryant was larger than life when he was here. I think that is is one thing as you reflect on Kobe Bryant you realized how large he was and how great he was and how much he was able to take a game. This is just a game just a game. You're putting a ball through a metal ring. It's supposed to game and to take that and extrapolate it out into life into find those relationships those love that love that Eddie found and all these other things I do find it very beautiful I think back to I was involved with this program called. NCA first team. And I talked about it on an older rations podcast. I think I was talking about trae young at the time when when I brought this up the used to say this this mantra over and over in this program when I was in high school run by the. NCAA was basically like his program to help a As I said I pretty before everyone else when I was in eighth grade I was considered to be. They looked at me and they identified me as a guy that was going to be a big time. Recruit they big swing and missile. Oh now on but The program was basically take all all these eighth graders that are going to be big time recruits. We're GONNA nurture them through high school. Make sure they don't through things up in the mantra the stuck with me and we'll stick with the rest of my life us basketball. Do not let basketball US you And that that just resonated with me forever. It's it's it's why I'm here right now because I I I was not very good at basketball eventually But I knew how to use it to Kinda get where I needed to go. That was Kobe Bryant. He's like used basketball but at the same time he poured just it's as much as he was taken away from the game and using it to like impact people outside of 'cause as you said it just for putting a ball through a metal ring yet you have people all over the world and morning And it's not because they love his fadeaway jump shot that is not why people are upset and sad about this It goes way beyond that and I don't know it sucks. It's it's a terrible okay. I will say this date. I'm not a betting man but I do wanna put every dime. I own on the Lakers title because the NBA is going to find a way there's Lebron ad can't find away the NBA will find. There's only two alternatives. I remember the last thing Takubo hadn't said to let Kobe said he was. It's time to win a championship. Janas deleted all the social the media after this moment with no one's heard anything from Jaanus. Basically Jaanus or the Lakers who is going to be more fueled by Kobe but whoever wins the championship we'll be discussing the Kobe. Bryant legend Kobe Bryant Story and You know I think that that will live on for a lot longer than a lot of us anything else before we hit it all we can get some shutouts and close out so we need to. I JUST WANNA shout out trae young. You mentioned him and him wearing number eight I it just more of all of the acts our down the basketball court trae young number eight G. G. saying that trae young was her favorite player on a basketball court and for him to go out and drive forty five points and had this amazing game. I know it's really hard to play under the circumstances but that's what Kobe. Who Won't we talked about that earlier? Coby Bryan watching and saw that game. Kobe Bryant's prouder trae young. And and I think there's the that's just one iteration of how many people you know Kinda stepped up and said I wanNA honor this man who made me fall in love with the game that we all love. And that's why you have to appreciate cope. I I don't really have anything else to say. I think I I left the Kobe would be proud of me. I left it all I under- percent Mama. metality this podcast. I had nothing else to say. Yeah we'll be back on Friday back to regularly scheduled Dick Jokes and and what have you and breakdowns of games between one thousand nine hundred the quote unquote amateur people. Being used people being used by basketball we will get back to that table. Dues PAC twelve update. Yes that it'll be on. Friday will bring it back on Friday but yeah we just wanted to. I don't know Kobe is he's an icon will be suck. So that's so you guys ready.

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Celebration Of Life: Kobe Bryant

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Celebration Of Life: Kobe Bryant

"There's crispy and then there's crispy try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy. What an emotional day. What a touching service. Hit all the right notes. Thank you so much to the Bryant family to the Lakers. Whoever everyone who had a hand in that just tremendous to watch a tribute to all the victims of that helicopter crash and of course to Kobe Bryant so close so many of our hearts we are here in Los Angeles and welcome back to our ESPN studios. I'm Rachel Nichols on here with Tracy McGrady Tracy the magnitude of what? We just saw the love for that man for his family. The bravery frankly a Vanessa Bryant to get up there and say what she said the so many emotions. It's so stirring. What stood out to you? I think Vanessa you know everything that she's been going through these last few weeks and to really get up on stage and show strength and speak in front of the twenty people that was in attendance in the mail out of watching around the world and to tell the stories of a little girl. Gee-gee Kobe. I mean that just showed that strengthen that courage that was amazing and just the personal stories too. I mean so much of the last few weeks has been about of course Kobe. The player how much influence he had a and all of his public life right and then people telling personal stories from that public life but we got to hear today that generally the Bacon. She Watch cupcake wars right. I mean all these little details that it matters right. The people that spoke today really did a great job painting the picture of Colby as a father as a player as a coach Gee-gee the things that she likes to do that. You know none of us knew about I mean they they did a great job of honoring Those two today just the personal touch out of the way through. Everybody giving their hearts really again. I'm going to go back to having courage and bravery to do it bare themselves on that stage and that's what that is Just spoke to everybody in that arena and all of us watching. Here's just what apportion a small portion of what they had to say about Kobe. Gee-gee and all of those affected today starting with Kobe's wife Gina's mother Vanessa. Kobe was the MVP OF GIRL. Dad's or MVP. He never left the toilet seat up. He always told the girls how beautiful and smart they are. He taught them how to be brave and how to keep pushing forward when things get half. Think any of us. Good of imagine this everywhere you go. Is HE GETS FACE IS NUMBER. Jeez face. He's number everywhere at every intersection. There are hundreds of murals painted by artist. Sewer inspired not because he's a basketball player but because Kobe was an artist to Kobe. Had Been Texting me from the helicopter. The girl in that text chain was that he was wanting to help so badly was Lexi. Altobelli the surviving daughter of coach. John Altobelli who was also on the helicopters. Kobe's last human act was ROIC. He wanted to use his platform to bless and shape. A young girls future. Hasn't Kobe done that for all of us? And not just in. La Across the country and Kobe's hometown Philadelphia in Italy in India. The Philippines China New York Phoenix Austin. For God's sake in places where he would be booed on the court. Kobe's missed even the Great Boston Celtics Bill. Russell wore number twenty four and a Lakers Jersey to yesterday's Game. Kobe retired from the NBA. He took over dropping off and picking up our girls from school since I was at home pregnant with Bianca and just recently home nursing Capri when Kobe was still playing. I used to show up an hour early to be the first in line of Pickup Natalia. Jonah from school and I told him he couldn't drop the ball. Once he took over he was late one time and we most definitely let him know that. I was never late so we showed up one hour and twenty minutes early after that he always knew there was room for improvement and wanted to do better. He happily did Carpool and enjoy spending time in the car with our girls. God knew they couldn't be on this earth without each other. He had to bring them home tab together. You take care of Archie got noni bbn cocoa. We're still the best team we love. And Miss You. Booboo Chichi both rest in peace and half finding heaven until we meet again one day. We love you both and miss you forever and always mommy and you see now. Some of the thousands who gathered today to honor Kobe Bryant exiting from the staple center and Tracy as I sat in that building one of the things that struck me so much was from up to the top row of the arena. The biggest a big name celebrities that were on the floor. He touched everybody right. Everyone felt he was a little bit. There's smell was icon. I mean his mentality the way he a game resonated with people in all walks of life. You know whether you're a plumber. Or whether you're a writer it doesn't matter Kobe mentality resonated with a lot of people and I think part of it was timing right. Kobe came in. I just saw the other day. He came in the year after they started. Mba DOT com. His career was at its height during the birth of facebook and twitter so he was global in a way that no star have been before he was able to touch people in all these countries away. No one had been able to do before and I think also one of the things with Kobes. I've been thinking about the past couple of weeks. Is we saw the work? Of course he was incredibly athletically gifted he was the son of an NBA player. But he wasn't born as an equal or someone who could copy Michael Jordan right. That was the work. And that's something that you've talked about that. He showed you how much work you had to do I knew Kobe was different. When we're eighteen nineteen years old Being in Disney and in Paris we went on a trip and I told you the story where I was going to work out to the weight room and he told me like what. Are you working out for win off season? You should have fun. We you know where we're at Disneyworld So come to find out this guy's in the gym working out and I'm looking at him like Bro. What what are you trying to do you ever played on? And so that whole trip to watch them from afar and watch how he worked in the detail that he worked at. I mean I learned so much from him his work getting way he was the work like he was the reason this this guy was the reason. I've never played pickup all in my career off season. You have a lot of guys that loves to play basketball pickup like mack. How many shots? You're going to get up in the pickup game. He was like what you need to do. Is Work on and develop your skills certain drills who certain drills by yourself or your trainer and and that's the way I trained my whole career and Damn I mean I mean it's just his work I mean is is unmatched. The kids just love. The game had a deep passion for it and You see what you know. We're honoring today and I think you know if you're a dishwasher. Who was waking up at four? Am You could relate to that right? I mean I just think that for so many people. That work was part of what tied Kobe to them? And then honestly just the fact that he's longevity that he was there for decades of people's lives and again I think that's what we're seeing today from celebrities like the on sale or Jennifer Lopez to Sabrina Ionescu. Right speaking so beautifully at that service He was there. He was the wallpaper of so many people's lives right. Yeah the when I look back and and just competing against him being around him where we're younger the discipline that it takes to reach the level that this man has were able to reach and things that he accomplished in his career. The ability to play through pain Sir Injuries just the commitment. To excellence is what he was all about and he he achieved and I think that's why a lot of us really related to Colby and and and really just looked up to him because of what he was able to his cement tally he was he. When you see guys like Kobe statement? He's different and he was. 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Let's see you drive through to get more out of practiced at participating. Mcdonald's for a limited time only breakfast single item at regular price. Wake up breakfast. We're back here in Los Angeles. Just after the memorial service for Kobe Anjana Bryant. I'm Rachel Nichols I am back with Tracy. Mcgrady Zach Lowe is now joining us. Zach you and I were watching together in the arena. What were your some of your biggest impression. I thought I think the thing that I will. Maybe remember the most was there was so much new footage of G G playing. I felt like we had seen the last the same five clips of GDP for the last month and there was so much footage of her and there was one in particular where you could tell. They were warming up for a game and she was practicing the footwork one by one all the Mambas proprietors and the footwork and then a lefty floater from the left baseline. It's like. Kobe is not messing around with the fundamentals. Then something Diana Toronto who is in Taza said about GDP really struck me. It's an could tell. Diana was very moved. She said you know G G at her age was was going through the very best time of ballplayers life just playing with your friends. Just plan to get better. No big stadiums no nothing no endorsements no career stuff to worry about basketball with your friends and that just that. Kinda hit me in the gut for some reason the way that she said. Because I hadn't really thought about it that way so I mean this this. This hits me even harder today Because I was supposed to be with Kobe this weekend and his girls. We played in the same tournament to where our first tournament was in Phoenix Arizona in December. And then I saw you know a few weeks before he passed at the academy and this past weekend we were supposed to be in Vegas and his girls is supposed to be out there. So you know me being on the sidelines. When I'm coaching I noticed when he walks in or fees watching my my kids play in. Just a moment on the sideline yesterday and just knowing that this weekend he was never walking through the door and it was just. It was hard for me to really except that my friend is gone. And I won't get opportunity to see him coaches girls in just the love that I've seen on his face every time I was around him. Doing those moments. It was just the the best in the happiest. I've seen Kobe's life at those times and I it's so striking I said this year. We walked out of the building. It's still does not feel real. I just sat through that entire service. It doesn't feel real. I still think in a month. Someone's going to say. Oh wait we had it wrong and yet you hear about these things and you see a windows more into his life. I feel the fact that he had Diana Terachi talk today. That Sabrina Ionescu spoke today that we saw so much of his love for G G and the way he coached her. That women and women's basketball were so front and center at the memorial service for one of the greatest basketball players to ever walk. The Earth is a legacy. He is going to leave because you hurt his wife. You've heard people talk about the fact that it was important to him to work in his retirement to create more love interest and attention for the women's game he wanted to make sure by the time G G got there that the stage was set for her and I think even just by today even posthumously the fact that he had so many people and that the people who loved him knew that it would be important to him to put that right. Front and center of his memorial is going to have a ripple effect. I think that in itself is going to influence the game the way that he wanted to. This man has inspired will pack impact. Plus all I mean me. Being a basketball player played fifteen years and I have kids that actually played a game and I know how kids are. My Son's like your dad played against a player like Kobe Bryant. But they don't WanNa listen to me and I've been trying over and over to get my kids to get in the gym with me right. My boys don't WanNa do that so after this this happened you know we. We lost Kobe and G G. I wanted my daughter to go train and I hired her trainer because you know from experience with my boys. They don't want to train with Daddy. So I hired Eric Trainer. An accident on on a day. I said Do you want to come and train? Today she was like no I was like. What do you want me to do it? She was absolutely and and from that moment. That's the first thing I thought about was Kobe. And Jesus like Damn. He's impacted me to help train my daughter and make her a better basketball player. You know it was really cool. And all the new footage I'd ever seen today. There was some overplaying defense and you could tell she liked it like she was getting she was getting up into people. And it's like that's cool that fierce. Some beautiful words said about John and Brian. Today I WANNA listen to a few of them right now. Judy was confident but not an an arrogant way. She loved helping and teaching other people things at school. She offered the boys basketball coaches to help. Give the boys basketball team. Some pointers like the triangle. Offense te she was very much like her daddy and that they both liked helping people learn new things in master them. They were great teachers. Judy was very sweet. She always made sure everyone was okay. She was our shepherd she always kept our family together. She loved family. Traditions family movie night and gave night on vacations. Were important to her. She always looked out for everyone. She was very much in tune with our feelings and wanted the best for us the same passion we all recognized in coby obviously G G inherited. Her skill was undeniable at an early age. I mean who has it's an array fadeaway jumper at eleven. Lebron barely got today. How many fathers are inspired by? Coby to be fathers to really be fathers the way of fathers close to be. She smiled all the time. It was game time. She was ready to kill her changed almost instantly. When the whistle blew I remember one time someone grabbed Jersey and she sort of just knock them down stepped right over him meaning. Kobe daddy other smiling and he goes. I don't know where she learned that from. I laughed and said I do. You can't teach dot and definitely not at her age. Kobe was right. She had it pouring out of such an emotional service. Janet Bryant spoke full Mandarin. She could speak and write mandarin and Spanish. I learned so much in the service so many cool things about her and I love that. I love that we got a little bit more personal touch both about her and Kobe. Because so much of what we've heard especially about. Gina was of course as a daughter right in relation to Kobe. And of course I mean she's still a teenager but I love the way so many of the speakers today humanized personalized her as her own young woman. I felt like that meant a tremendous amount and Kobe was the one who we were learning more about the relationship as the debt right. He's a father of a daughter that kind of thing and that warmth t mention that you guys were at these tournaments together. It was fascinating to me that you guys were so close earlier in your career you would come stay at his house in the summer two teenagers taking the NBA by storm together. Here's a year ahead of you giving you so much advice and then as you became competitors the way we know Kobe Bryant would do Kobe. Shut everything else out. You guys were of course still on good terms still friendly but not close in that way because nobody he was going against could be close to him and then in this last year the way your friendship reached an entirely new level as dad's was so amazing to me to watch. What does it mean to you to have that extra time with him in this entirely new way it meant admits everything Just to drive out to Orange County and watches girls practice and this is my first time really seeing him seeing him in a different light being around those girls the way he ran that the organization. I mean it was. It was like he ran like a NBA camp like a franchise With the trainers on staff and how they work how they prepare for Games. We go to these tournaments and just see how well coached. They are like Who made that? Thank you Gino was talking about. The the guy that you know wasn't able to be coached so here leading a group of young women and I mean when when I tell you watching them and and how well coached they were. It was just like a well oiled machines. Like you watch San Antonio Spurs. I mean. These girls were so disciplined so skilled triangle when she was like eight or nine is incredible in the triangles. Pretty tough to pick up a lot of the triangle stories. We heard were like half of the Kobe stories today. Were involved text messages at two thirty or three o'clock that I can tell you a whole thing going on with normal people are asleep. He he figured it out. I mean it's it's the second part of his life for me. He really figured it out and he was just putting his passionate toy and we can all see I mean he's he loves those girls. He loves his daughter in parade and her around and and just teaching hurt away. And for me personally. I got the opportunity to see her closing. She was on her way to greatness. Yeah I mean look. We've had this conversation a few times in the last few weeks. There's no reason she couldn't have been the best women's basketball player ever. We'll never know of course and the Goat Diana Ross spoke today but here's someone with Kobe Bryant jeans right so she had that going for her she was trained by the most sort of maniacal absolute best from an early age and picked up not only his athleticism but his determination. She was exposed to everything that modern basketball technology had to she was headed to Yukon as we heard Gino talk about today the best finishing school in the world for women's basketball players. And why not by the time she reached the WNBA could she not have been the best and the WNBA at that point would have been ready for her right the way it has so much more exposure now than it has in the past. It's hard not to see it and it's an opportunity lost and and part of such a great tragedy that we are reminded today. We're GONNA take a very quick break but coming up we will play with Shaq. Michael Jordan said about Kobe very moving words. That's next right here on the Joan Basketball season is eating up. Some teams are coming together while others falling behind they're driving momentum that will determine who raises the trophy at the end of the season. Goodyear knows that no matter what road were on movement is the key to unlocking our potential because growth isn't a straight line. It's a winding road. Traveling pursued a possibility. It's time to discover what possibilities lay ahead. Goodyear more driven. Welcome back to the jump. We are live here from Los Angeles just across the street from the Staples Center where the Memorial Koby and John. Bryant took place today really happy to be able to welcome Brian. Shaw Kobe's teammate. Friend and Brian. I can't even imagine what it was like. Just before the service as you guys were all gathering together and just sort of mixing what were you guys saying to each other. Well you know it was. It was an you. Try to find a silver lining in of this and so that part was nice because you got to see teammates and opponents. And what have you that and entertainers that you admire all come together And be able to just kind of connect and say hey we. We have to a better job of staying in contact with one another. We have to do a better job of bringing Arca kids who grew up together around each other and give an exposing them to all of this greatness that we're all around For me was the was the best part of it all You know to be able to You know just get back together you think about it. We spent so much time with each other while whether it was on the plane. The bus ride let alone plan to games and practices and going out to dinner a lot of times more time than we spent with our own families. And so you know. It's a shame that sometimes when you know when the game is over and you retired and moved on you know that it just stops and it shouldn't and so. I think that's something that this made everybody aware of and We're all going to be better because it is so striking to hear that from you guys. I've heard that from so many other players. We've course purchase kilo. Neil talk about the fact that he hasn't spoken to coby since Kobe's retirement couldn't believe in the crazy thing like he talks to shacks. Oh that stung me right. And I don't think it was out of some grudge. Obviously am I was there? That night of Kobe's retirement game shack with screamed the loudest for him. But you just you don't sometimes you just don't connect right. Well you know you you grow up and you know so you you take young Koby Young Shack and teammates and you're at a different stage in life and then you know you go through a fifteen twenty year career um you retire and then you you interest. Move On. You're doing business. You're watching your own kids and it takes away From the time that you spent with one another and I don't think there's anything this done on purpose. It's just something that naturally happens. And unfortunately it takes something like this to put everything in perspective and bring everybody back together and that's the beauty of one of the most moving things in the whole after the Kobe. Thing for me in regards to this shack on the TNT broadcast in the empty staple center kind of breaking down and looking at Ernie and chuck. Kenyans thing. I don't I don't call you guys enough. I don't text you guys. I don't spend time with you and like that's everyone gets busy in time. Just goes by and like you. Just don't really notice it happening absolutely in shock with so moving today Michael Jordan. Still moving some of the things they had to say. I want it to be the best big that I could be to do that. You had to put up with aggravation. The late night calls or the dumb questions to great bribe as I got the nokia-brand that he was just trying to be better person. A Better basketball player. We talked about business we talked about. We talked about everything and he was just trying to be a better person today. Kobe gain my respect. Was guys were complaining. Shed Kobe's not passing the ball. I said I'll talk to say Kobe. There's no team Kobe's but there's an emmy that is perfect. We will hear by the way a little bit more from Michael Jordan. Later I was so struck first of all the Michael Jordan spoke because those of us in basketball no that is such a rarity the NBA. All Star game was just in Chicago. He didn't speak publicly at that. He did a small video recording. That was it. I love the michaels talking about Kobe. Basically pestering him into having this relationship which is perfect and Kobe and Kobe deciding. I'm going to be this close to the man idolize growing up and he's going to make that happen whether it takes no matter how many phone calls anything like that is amazing and then of course. Michael Jordan bringing up the crying meeting was that was an Alzheimer as well. And you know what it did it it it humanized for all of us because we you know obviously everybody. You know admires Michael Jordan and to see him you know tears streaming down his face. It makes it okay for everybody else to let that emotion out and You know so that was I. I thought that that was awesome You know that he he got up there in front all those people and expressed himself and just let it let it flow. We all have to agree. We often more And we have to let it out and he made it okay. I thought it was just. I thought it was an all time moment for for basketball people. Because you know Michael's hall of fame speech whether you liked it because it was quintessential Michael or whether you you thought it was a little maybe off it it. It didn't leave the best taste in everybody's mouth. What are you liked it? Because it was not. This was everyone. I was curious when you got up there and and it was just. I really. Don't remember seeing Michael Jordan ever like that and it was something because of that and it was the exact right note and something. I think all of us will always remember graceful generous. Some things that again in his whole fame speech he had to be defiant right. He had to get in those final last flicks. There was none of that here and it was about that relationship. T- Mak can you explain to people even just explain to people a little bit how much? Kobe Bryant idolized Michael Jordan We used to be in the room and here have come fly with me Playground he will watch all these home videos of Michael Jordan and I just. I caught him like rewinding Certain moments of Michael. He walked he talked. He was just really studying. What Michael was doing. He was mimicking that. Like certain walks like Mike Walks. Then you know I was like what the Hell Are you doing? He was you know. You've like Dallas. Mike Guy I wanna be better to him and my career when it's all said and done and that's what he was shooting for like. Mike was the bar and he was shooting to be better than Michael Jordan. I'll be damned if he didn't come close to accomplishing absolutely so so specials. Echinacea you have to go the man who won three rings with Kobe. He's going to stay with us. Brian Shaw coming up. Please you stay with us. We will continue to celebrate the life and legacy of Kobe and Jon Brion. We'll be right back We talked about everything if he was just trying to be a better person. Now he's got me. I'll have to look at another crime. Mean for the Knicks. I told my wife I we're going to do this because they want to. See that for the next three or four years. Kobe Bryant a piece of media and as I look in this arena across the globe. A piece of you died. Well she wouldn't be hit. Those are the memories that we have to live with and we learn from. I promise you from this day forward. I will live with the memories in knowing a little brother that I tried to help in everywhere. I could please recipes little Michael Jordan. Another game winner talking about Kobe. We are here in Los Angeles celebrating life legacy Kobe Bryant. I'm Rachel Nichols here with Theresa. Mcgrady Brian Shaw Ramona. Shelburne is joining us. I love having all of you. Guys with me t MAC. You're most closely tied. The player who was with Kobe at his rise going and dueling against him for those scoring titles. Brian Union Kobe for three decades. You met him as a ten year old when you start playing against his father back in Italy Ramona. You covered Kobe for so long. What stuck out to you in that moral. You know what I thought I knew him pretty well. I heard so many new things today. So many new things like I. I can't tell you how hard I pushed Kobe. Tell me about his relationship with Michael Jordan. I mean I would always ask him like what Michael say. What am I. And he held that back like that was between them he would say know. We're close we went to lunch. We went to but he didn't say well Michael Said And it Kinda Kinda got because it was like wow. This man had so much more to him that we didn't all get even though we all saw so much of him and inspired Michael to speak the way today and to openly cry the way did was so striking tracy when you sit there and talk about the great of rates of the game and how we go from Michael Jordan to Kobe. And of course we saw so many of today's players in the audience as well today. How do you think that those guys are going to carry for with Kobe? Legacy because remember if you're twenty five years older younger in this country you never saw Michael Jordan. Playing a bulls uniform right. It's all youtube clips A think they understand the importance of Carrying this game for moving it for and that's what. Kobe wanted To treat the game well to go out and compete at the highest level Thing we got a taste of that son at Sunday's All Star game in that fourth quarter where? I've never really seen a competitive all-star game like that and I'm sure Koby had a lot to do with that his impact on his game high hosted game. That's why co you've heard it before I mean these younger guys that are plan now call. Was There Michael Jordan? And just his approaches mentality. Everybody can relate to that. It's hard to get to that level with this man reach in how disciplined he was and I think that's why a lot of us really resonate with Kobe Bryant young players. Ask You about Kobe. Bryant. His will his work ethic You know for the most part I got to connect with Paul George. my two years in Indian- Indiana and was just in his second season and he was You know cutting corners and I used to. I knew he grew up in the La area and so and that he was You know he idolized Kobe. And so I would always just kind of interject. You know number twenty four wouldn't be cutting corners. He'd be doing this. He'd be doing that and it got his attention and then he wanted to just started asking tons of questions about his work. Ethic is footwork. And what have you and so I was able to use that as motivation. And he uses it himself. Motivation motivation to To become more serious and become a consummate pro when it came to the game and so. I think that that's the biggest thing that you know you take from that and then you look at somebody today. Made a comment about when he would go to his daughters games and practices. And what have you? He he was like a shy kid when they were actually when she was playing he sat back. It wasn't about him. It was about her. He let her have her moment. Let the team have their moment and You know and I think that's that's that's priceless as well. You know you you you take from this. His relentlessness and his disciplined to his craft. He'd carry that over into after basketball and the things that he did and then we get to see it as an example. And let's face it. He he he got to be around. Chick hearn arguably one of the best Jerry West Phil Jackson and then the multitude of players that he played with and competed against like Michael Jordan. That yourself that he got exposure to all these things from a very young man and then having a father who played in the NBA as well and Expose him to culture and life outside of the of the US in Italy and so he had all of these things that he was you know kind of bubbling inside of him. That we're now seeing how you know how it the product in the result of it and that's the Nice thing like you said you talked about things that you learned today that you didn't know before so these you know and that was because he was exposed to all these different thinks you know. He grew up in Italy and he used to tell me about that. It's just different when you grew up going to the Sistine Chapel. Right like when you're to the Vatican. Okay I think that He. He had all of this worldliness to him but it also when we came back to the states like there was a period of time where he had a really hard time fitting in and basketball became his refuge. Basketball became the area that he could dominate. And I remember something radio. S Q said which some I've been thinking about a lot lately with with with him and the legacy and the way he lived his life Should you know you? You appreciate the grind right like every day when you get up like there's the parts that you love or the hard parts the parts that you love are the ones where you don't want to be working out of doing that. It takes so much focus and intention and disciplined to do something like that and I mean. How many times have you been that passionate about something in your life even for a month? This man did that every day and not just with basketball but then he had a whole nother set of passions after basketball and he was gonNA continue living that way and I'll never forget the day after scored sixty his last game. Okay so I've been working on this story. It was ready to go all I needed to write the ending and then he just completely blessed. I'm like I'm going to have to rewrite you. I can't believe you did that. And he was like laughing at me. We call the next day and I go so take me through. Okay what did you do after the game? He goes what we flew home. We landed we wa- we eat some pizza. We WATCH THE MOVIES. Everybody went to sleep. I think I made me went to sleep around three thirty in the morning and I go. And then what and he goes. I got up early. I went to church. I gotta work at it. Went to the office and I was like wait. No damehood have slept in you. You've just got done with twenty years like if there's one day you could have slept in but I think what it is that he was so intentional about the next phase of his life and really in anything. He did the plan for that. That's where gee-gee comes into play because hadn't Gee-gee loved the game of basketball hat that passion. Kobe would have been in office being creative writing books. We never would have seen this side of Kobe. And Its just G G brought that out. She brought him back to basketball with him in the last couple years because for a while seem sparks game. We wouldn't really see him. Laker Games Win Sima Basketball Games and then all of a sudden he started popping up at these. Nba Games. And I'm like call became back to us and he said Oh. Jeez you wanted to go. So that was an amazing gift that she gave. Yes pretty incredible. Brian thank you so much for joining us. Please stay with US olive. You will hear more from Vanessa. Bryant and others remember Kobe Angie. This is the jump I've been trying to come up with something positive to take away from this and It was hard because there isn't much but the best thing I think I was able to come up with. Is this gratitude. It seems to me that all we could do is be grateful for the time we had with them and for the time we have left with each other and that's all to RPG my brother. May You always remember to enjoy the road especially when it's a hard one love Kobe. Kobe wrote these words to me just a few months ago now. I realized that perhaps they were meant for us. All God knew they couldn't be on this earth without each other. He had to bring them home tab together. You take care of our got noni. Bbn COCOA. We're still the best team we love and miss you boo boo and Chichi both rest in peace and half finding heaven until we meet again one day we love you both and miss you throw and always mommy and that is when I fell apart during this. Ooh That was just so so moving and the strength of her to get up and do that again. Just someone I have my own kids. The idea of being able to talk about her daughter that way. Just I. I was very impressed with Vanessa Bryant today and I'm back here Rachel Nichols with Ramona Shelburne. Tracy McGrady what world of Vanessa Heaven in today's service. Oh this was all Vanessa. I mean this is everybody. I've spoken to since this happened. Said they've been in communication with Vanessa. This is this is what she wanted to be. This is she was. She was in charge of this. And you know you think like how could you be in charge of something this big dealing with such laws I don't know man but like I realized that she was talking like. I don't know that I've ever heard her speak like this before. I don't think she's given a lot of interviews over the years I used to see her in the press room a lot. I'm not the president of the outside the locker room and She'd be there with the kids. We'd say hello but Kobe was very protective of Vanessa. And the things that he would say About her to me was just like that was. She was more competitive than he is that she is the fire in their relationship. And you can see it there right like you know you you realize when somebody that you you thought you knew all of a sudden takes the stage like that and has does that kind of performance right. That was from the heart. It was tremendous Mac. You and your wife learn to spend time with an ESA and Kobe especially again at these tournaments and getting to see her. How'd you think she's going to push forward from here? I don't know I mean Thinks he's just gonNa lead those girls and and just continue to show incredible strength And just be there for them Beat the head of the household and you know from the looks up. Today she's She's a very strong woman and those girls Should be thankful for the mother that they have in the strength that she's she showed on that stage today and I think they'll be in good hands moving forward and I know you said he just this weekend. You're looking for him still. I think we're all going to be looking for him still that. That's something I felt in the last month when I G it doesn't feel real. I'm still looking for him. I'm still looking for him to pop up message. I'm still looking for him to pop up on the screen. I thought Jimmy Kimmel. That was so eloquent that his numbers everywhere everywhere everywhere everywhere. I go and get on a plane. I'll see Kobe jerseys Go to the tournament up. See Mamba stuff everywhere. I can't escape it and I don't want to and I think that that's something he's giving us as well. He is going to continue to be everywhere. Coby Bryan is going to be part of our lives. He's going to be part of the sport. He will certainly be part of the city. We're going to hear a lot about Kobe Bryant at the NBA finals this year. We'll hear certainly about him at the hall of fame ceremony where he will be inducted and we will hear about him from the players who will carry on his legacy. Kobe. Bryant Mentor. Isn't something that those of us who knew him early in his career. We thought he was going to be. But there's no question that was important to him and he will carry on in the guys who are playing in his name. Thank you to everyone who joined us today.

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Kobe Bryant, 13 year old daughter among nine killed in helicopter crash, Fans, players mourn Kobe Bryant following NBA legend's death

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Kobe Bryant, 13 year old daughter among nine killed in helicopter crash, Fans, players mourn Kobe Bryant following NBA legend's death

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NBA Titles two time Olympic gold medals a most valuable player award and even an Oscar the crash that took his life. What happened earlier today in the town of Calabasas just outside of Los Angeles and the cause is still under investigation but we expect to learn more shortly the National Transportation Safety Board the TSP? They will hold a briefing any moment as it sends investigators to the crash site. CNN is covering all angles. Those of this breaking news story. Let's start with our correspondent. Nick Watt he's live on the scene in Calabasas for us. Nick first of all. What are you learning about the crash? Well we'll if we know that the FAA is already on scene as you mentioned the NTSB on the way. I don't think we will get any official answers for quite some time but what we know from speaking to people in this area. Is that when the crash occurred earlier. This morning. This was a very foggy morning. Visibility would have been low. I spoke to a pilot friend of mine who said he decided not to fly today. Because of the visibility I also speaking to people who live here on on the other side of the valley from the crash. They say they heard a loud impact. which might suggest this was not a controlled landing gone wrong? This was something else so visibility visibility of course something being spoken but I must stress Wolf. We have no official indication. What we're seeing over at the crash scene there? There is still a little bit of smoke this. The crash ignited a brushfire on that hillside in the past twenty minutes. Or so we've seen the flashbulbs of cameras taking pictures of the sea. Now first responders had to deal with the fire. I while also trying to preserve this scene. But you know what Wolf here in Los Angeles. The how and the why are very second-rate at the moment Kobe Bryant is dead at forty one years old. That is what people care about here. I'm surrounded by hundreds of people many wearing Lakers jerseys. So I'm wearing Kobe. Bryant Jerseys one young man I spoke to said I'm still in disbelief. Denial he said Kobe. Bryant is who made me watch basket ball in the first place now. We have spoken to two parents who were waiting at Kobe's Mamba Sports Academy there's a tournament going on there this morning Kobe's team. His daughter seemed G G. They were supposed to be playing there at noon. Did Not make it now. We did just hear from the Sheriff Wolf confirming there. There were nine people on board eight plus the pilot. We know Kobe Bryant. We know his thirteen year. Old Daughter. gee-gee we've also learned from the Orange County Register newspaper that John Altobelli who was a baseball coach at Orange County. College was also on board. Note names beyond that and you know what will the sheriff summed it up. He said we're not going to give out any more names right now. All he said is God. Bless their souls wealth and our deepest deepest condolences to all all of those wonderful families indeed. Nick we'll get back to you. I want to show our viewers right now. A moment of silence held in Kobe. Bryant's honor at the Denver Nuggets game just a little while ago right as the tragic news first broke. Watch this ladies and Gentlemen Basketball fans a tragedy has befallen the world of basketball earlier today at the the age of forty one Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. In twenty seasons with the Lakers. Kobe was a seventeen time all all star two time. NBA Finals Mvp two-time Olympic gold medalist and five time NBA champion the NBA. And the game of basketball will mourn this loss together. Please join us in a moment of silence. Kobe Bryant rest in peace. Mamba Ombu very sad moment indeed joining us on the phone right right now. Kennedy Smith the former NBA Player of the Co host of the NBA on TNT. Our sister network. Kenny is I. I don't know what to say like so many millions aliens and millions of people all over the country and all over the world. It's so tragic and so sad. Tell us up first of all how you learn about this and what went through your mind. Take a while. We'll I I was in disbelief. Just like everyone else Shaath And just broke down much of two years I live in Los Angeles right now. my I have a basketball teams that play at the Mamba and we've practiced there so so I'm in that Jim four times a week that his facility Kobe's in there with his daughter hit his teams all the time you know the time I bet he's investing in to you know his family now so just chop and learned about it as I was driving towards home my daughter call me in disbelief instead. I hope you're sitting down because I have some news that you need to hear. And she told me what happened and I and I just stopped the car and shot and broke down in tears. Because it's just a tragic incident all around. I think your reaction was almost exactly the same as my reaction when my wife called me and gave me the news it was just so horrible. Tell us a little bit about Kobe. Bryant what will you remember. Must you know it's interesting. I think we've all we watched him as a basketball player. But this transformation that we're seeing in front of our eyes as a retired player you know is what I think. I'M GONNA remember most Because again he became and everyone can relate to soccer mob. He became the soccer dad. You know he basically. This is a corporal but his car pool was a helicopter so going to a game because most of us realize that our kids are never gonNA believe you know get a college scholarship then probably not GonNa be in the NBA or the WNBA which is spending this time with them and everything about his career was about him. Everything Kobe Bryant is Kobe. Bryant back commercials and this transformation and his retirement was all about highlight exempt. So that's what we all. I think that's former players try to achieve is like we know that a lot of our lives about us and he was now saying okay. Now I'm going to showcase my family as much as I can and you know through twitter and instagram could do easily now at everything was about them. And that's I think that's where it's hitting most of the players now because because that's the lights that they're trying trying to that he's trying to build that they're trying to build and we try to do and let's remember Kenny. What a great great great player? An amazing player Kobe Bryant was five time. NBA champion seventeen time all star two time. Olympic Gold Medalists D. You you have a favorite Kobe Bryant moment because there are so many wonderful moments So many you know as a as a fan because again you know our interactions were you know at most thirty minutes when I when I interacted with him You know and I'm also feeling for my my. Ah My my comrade Shaquille O'Neal I just I know how how much feel right now and I've talked. You know been texted him talking to him so I chill you know especially bath him more than anything so and as well as the families that's going on but my most memorable basketball moment I think it was when he hit a shot gets Phoenix and he pulls the Jersey to the side and he's like showing his heart And and the one thing that if if you recognize wolf like their people in the media in your profession I go you know they idolize big that maybe you you know. There's if people in certain areas the best of the best immolate copes like so all stars in our game emulate hip. Yeah he enjoyed and understand the the standard of what people do people. Don't say anything else. Well isn't it good. It's Kobe Bryant. He's the the next Kobe Bryant. or He's the next Jordan so he's the measuring stick for the position of what it is to be a a great basketball player and you you know he was a seventeen time. NBA All star went to the All Star Game Seventy Times. I think I know you were many of them. I think I was an all. I go every year to the league. The all-star Game I was in all of them and I remember specifically every single time wherever we are whether in New Orleans or Miami or Los Angeles Research ICAGO wherever the NBA. All Star weekend is taking place. Whatever Kobe Bryant was introduced it was a special moment for the twenty thousand or so fans who who were inside that arena? And you probably felt it as well without question because his his greatness was captivating astle astle fans but it could make opponents uncomfortable like and that that is very difficult to to have. Both you know a lot of times you know players players could be great but other other great players say well. He doesn't make me uncomfortable in terms of making replay differently. He's the only one of the few players in our the league in the history of the game that the great players he could make uncomfortable and You know he's you know again. He's talking about memories. I Ah Brockton when Hurricane Katrina hit and I I called him and I said Hey man I need you to come to play in a charity game. This is on a Monday wolf on Friday and Houston Texas to help the people with Hurricane Katrina. He says how many players had I said Koby We. Honestly you're the first person I called because I know if I get you everyone else. Who's GONNA come? And he said yes he says you know what tell everybody. I'm playing and he said tell him to strap up. Because I'M GONNA play for real and from there. I had twenty six players in less than twenty four hours. Say Yes because Kobe Bryant said yes I yeah it's it's especially when we're showing our viewers. Kenny live pictures outside the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Right now. People are gathering there. There's obviously a the big picture of Kobe in loving memory of Kobe Bryant It's hard to believe. Only forty one years old and he has passed. I mean it's shocking. To all of us I obviously got to meet him on a few occasions and he was such a wonderful special always so nice WHOA professionally as far as basketball is concerned? Where would you rank? I've clearly in the top five. But what do you think like I said it to you. Michael Jordan order a measuring stick of the position so You know there are people when when people say are you the next Jordan they say oh you the next Kobe and they used to say at one time. Are you the next Kareem abdul-jabbar those are Wilt Chamberlain. Those only four or five guys that you would hear maybe an Oscar Robertson Robison and. That's it you know next anything else. The only guys who could be the next because it goes into the most dynamic captivating cultivated players. Here's in the history of our game and He's GonNa be missed Rabat regard. We'll see a perfect person know at times. You know. We seem his flaws as well. Oh but in terms of what he did in terms of competition level and his in detail and his level of exodus and again the transformation into this I it's not about me anymore about my family this transformation that we were witnessing at the early stages of his retirement is what that I buy the most one final question before. I let you go We're getting ready mid February for the NBA. All Star game. It's going to be this year in Chicago. I'll be going there you'll be there. You'll be broadcasting. No doubt from there it's going to it's going to be a different. NBA All Star game. Because we've lost Kobe Bryant without question you know everything in the All star weekend. It's about celebratory. So I think that what we should also acknowledge it celebrators lice and not mourn his life as well so it could be a great fellow Pretoria weekend about all of the great things that he's done You know we can make everything about eight and twenty four so I don't know how you do it but everything should have a twenty four eight Motif to it being to it and just celebrate the life of a guy who carry the NBA on his back For like ten years or a decade or more It was the most known and and polarizing figure in the game gain around the world. Kenny Smith thanks so much for sharing some thoughts on this very very sad moment and I think you're absolutely right we. We will celebrate Kobe Bryant in the days weeks months and years to come especially in a couple of weeks at the NBA All Star game in Chicago. Thanks very much right right now. I want to bring in award winning sports broadcaster Bob Costas to get his reaction Baba I mean so sad. I don't know what you could say but Tell us how you yourself when you heard. The news that Kobe Bryant is thirteen year old daughter. Others were killed in this helicopter. Crash obviously an unspeakable tragedy Especially when children are involved in the bold face name is Kobe but there are eight others and not just his daughter beyond Kobean. Jonah there are seven others and it's a tremendous tragedy across the board. I thought back personally to the Kobe. Brian I met when he was eighteen years old. Fresh I shot of Highschool Lower Merion High School in Philadelphia where the gym and which is old high. School plays is now named after him. He had had an unusual usual youth for an NBA player his dad as you know had been an NBA player. Joe Jelly Bean Bryant. Who played with the seventy sixers teammate of Julius erving in the seventies and with a couple of other clubs and then he spent a good portion of his youth? Speaking of Kobe in Italy spoke fluent Italian he was more more mature. Eighteen year old and much more aware than most you would meet Nachos as an athlete but almost any eighteen year old in in any walk of life he was tremendously self-possessed tremendously aware and poised When I interviewed him for the first time at age eighteen and he was a superstar for star by the time he was in his early twenties? He didn't just have tremendous talent had presence. He had star quality and as Kenny Smith. Told you a moment ago yes he and fikile. O.`Neil were a nearly unstoppable unstoppable combination when they won three consecutive NBA Championships. But there there was always a feeling that he was one. A. And shock was the most dominant player in the game but then Kobe went on to lead the Lakers to two world championships. After shocking DOC ID departed for the Miami Heat and that was a statement. He wanted to make Kobe by. Everybody's testimony was always no matter what the accolades were no matter what the achievements were He. He was always pushing for something better and always measuring himself against perhaps in unattainable even for him standard what what made him such an exceptional player. Well you have to start with talent but then there's also dedication everyone who was close to him and I got an up close view for a long time when the NBA was on NBC for a good portion of his career through the early two thousands but even in later years? When I didn't see as much of him those who were following him covering him playing with an against him said that every off-season no matter what he had done he might have within the MVP or the scoring champion? He always came back having added something else to his repertoire. Having added some other move that would frustrate defenders offenders and I think as much as almost anything something that tells you the nature of him as a competitive athlete in twenty thirteen. He tore his Achilles at least ten. Then at this point he's already been in the League for more than fifteen years his hall of fame status as long since secured. They say he'll miss the better part of a year. He comes back in December of that year and barely a week. Later breaks a bone in his left knee. He's out until October of twenty fourteen fourteen and then he tears his rotator cuff almost anybody else at that advanced Bethlehem age with all the achievements. Already in place would have said. Okay okay fine. That's it but he put himself through a kind of athletic and rehabilitation hell to get back on the floor to make one final statement to play one final year to leave people with an image of Kobe. Bryant not hobbling around but scoring sixty points in his last game against the Utah Jazz. A- all of US watch that game with amazement. Indeed as you know Bob Kobe Bryant went straight to the NBA. Right out of high school only eighteen years old. Ah What's really amazing and it's pretty unusual. I think I don't know if you agree. He played for only one team all those years about twenty years. The Los Angeles Lakers. So what does that mean that he he stuck with one team for so many years. That's increasingly rare in pro sports and and it's something that people value the player who they attach to just one team. You think of CAL ripken with a Baltimore Orioles or Derek Jeeter. Who's now headed to the hall of fame with the Yankees? That's something important people. Tom Brady now contemplating where he will go next. It just seem. I'm a little odd if Tom Brady wears a uniform other than the Patriots just as it seems a little odd. Although it's just a footnote for Michael Jordan but to see him play for the Washington Wizards Wizards Kobe. Bryant never wore a uniform. Other than the Lakers. Which reminds me that he did wear two numbers for the Lakers? Eight and twenty. I four and I don't know if you heard about this wolf but at and at least one game and I'm told that it may happen in several. NBA Games tonight. The the raptors are playing the spurs tonight and on each team's first possession. They each intentionally took a twenty four second second violation they just stood and held the ball. Didn't attempt to score took a twenty four second violation but the raptors and the spurs to honor Kobe Bryant I and the number twenty four so it's really amazing before I let you go very quickly Bob because I know you're GonNa be busy all night and and hopefully you'll be back it with us But two time gold medal winner at the Olympic Games. And you've been to all those Olympic Games over the years what we the. NBA Hey has become so popular. Not only in the United States but all over the world right now and Kobe Bryant whether in Europe or Africa or Asia South America he's a household name in the modern history of the NBA. And this is to take nothing away from Kareem who kinda straddles both errors. I will or bill. Russell Bob cousy whoever preceded Oscar Robertson Jerry West in the modern history of the NBA. I think the most marketable the players and most internationally recognised players post Magic Johnson. And Larry Bird certainly been magic. Johnson Lebron James and Kobe Bryant and part of it is because Kobe is a unique name but he was one of a handful of one name athletes. You didn't need the last night everybody. Nobody knew who called me was as they know who. Lebron is really amazing. I've traveled all over the world and everybody obviously knew who he was. Everybody who loved basketball. So how many billions and millions of people around the world do Love Basketball Bob Costas. I know you're going to be sticking around. We'll continue our conversation. We're also getting reaction right now from around the world and this very tragic very sad breaking news the NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant among up nine people killed in a helicopter crash near Los Angeles more on his life in legacy. When we come back ever been knocked down you know suffered a setback fired left out? It happens it happens a Mike Bloomberg number middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job started a family boom fired at thirty nine. What did Mike do or a lot of us? Do we got backup up dove back in. He had idea design a new computer able to quench data processing information in a unique way he built it he sold it he built more. He sold more. He built a team. Built a company created twenty thousand jobs. Bloomberg is a doer. This is Michael. Douglas I played a president and movies. Movies this is real world. This is our world. Mike Bloomberg has takes to win unite the country find some common ground between Democrats and Republicans the kids and then lead the way a leadership. Mike will get it. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate from President. And I approve. This message paid paid for by Mike. Bloomberg Twenty Twenty National Transportation Safety Board is briefing reporters right now on this tragic helicopter crash. Let's listen structures and power plants and we already have a staff person from the regional office. onsite insight. We will also have two staff members from our family assistance team who will be working with the family delays another loved ones to help them get their resources that they need over the next couple of days months. We are leaving in a few minutes. I expect will arrive late tonight. We're likely to have a media briefing sometime tomorrow. Please monitor our twitter which is NTSB underscore newsroom for those announcements. I have time for a couple of quick questions. If you'll raise your hand State your name and your affiliation. What the question is what types of things will be looking for? Our team will be looking at The history of the pilots and whatever crew was on board will be looking at maintenance records of The helicopter Copter We will be looking at records of the of the owner and operator of the Hilla Copter and a number of other the things that we look at as part of the investigation You'd that's hard to tell The question is how How late will we be getting to work? We do have somebody who's on-scene or en route route from our Western Region Office and so when we get on scene we'll have to assess what we're able to do at that time I five Media on route forty nine people were killed two people. The question is how many people can be carried in the Sikorsky. Seventy six B. We are trying to figure out what the configuration of that helicopter is really just depends on the configuration. So that's something we're still trying to verify one more question is it. Typical descend eighteen and I should clarify. It's not a total total of eighteen investigators that includes our investigative staff that's There's the investigative staff support members. There are a couple for media relations. There's our family assistance team And I think that covers it. But it's typical for for any of our investigations. This does not change anything We this is just how we would respond to any investigation like does this. Type of helicopter have Blackbox that's something. We'll have to look at as part of the investigation. We're still on our way there so well thank you very much. All Right Jennifer Mendy board member the NTSB the National Transportation Safety Board. They're gonNA have a full scale investigation of this tragic. Horrific helicopter crash Kobe Bryant and eight others killed toby. Bryant only forty one years old old his thirteen year old daughter as well. Peter Goals is with us CNN aviation analyst former managing director of the NTSB. Peterson walk because through what is about to begin. Well they're going to land tonight. They'll probably do a quick tour of the site because they won't get there until after ten or eleven o'clock L. A. too on and they will make sure that the site is secure that any key pieces of equipment have not been damaged They're going to their family. Assistance Assistance Team is going to go into action and they are very skilled You know this is such a tough accident and You know the the they'll be important but tomorrow are mourning. The real work will begin. And they'll wanNA find out as member Hamady said they want to know the maintenance records to this plane the pilot qualifications nations. What was the weather like? What's the radar tracks? Show was any communication between the pilot and the ground. Tell us about this s seventy-six helicopter copter. You're familiar with it. I am news about There's over a thousand of them in use worldwide. They're used in a military setting they're used as air air ambulances and they're also you know the helicopter of choice for high end private use. I mean this is a dual engine. turbocharged helicopter opted. That has a very solid record so as far as you can remember off the top of your head. No previous major accidents. There have been. I think three that I was able to look up today. A but it certainly would would this number of of helicopters in the air. It's a it's a very positive record and you heard the question How many people can usually be seen in the helicopter like well? They use this helicopter for offshore the oil business for transferring crews out out to the rigs so you can get twelve to fifteen people into this Type helicopter depends on on. WHO's getting on but I don't think nine passengers would would be a away Wade issue for this this Powell? That was the issue whether in there were too many people on what you're saying there weren't brave. You probably not. You would look at the weather whether it's going to be an issue. I mean I've heard two different different reports on one that It was heavily fogged in early in the day. Some flights are being canceled. I've heard later that it was you know. Not Quite as heavy that there was over a mile visibility but certainly when it comes to helicopters flying at low altitude you're going to look at whether very careful the NTSB ESPN report. It'll take months until we get the final report right. Yes it's his will take a year to get the full report. They'll issue a preliminary report within thirty days. That will give us. I think A pretty good picture of way. The where the investigation is going. Peter Goals thank you very much for coming in always appreciate your expertise coming up. We're going to much more on our tragic breaking news on the death of the NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant much more right after this. Hey there it's poppy harlow the host of CNN's boss files podcast. Are you hungry. Have you ever had shake shack or latest. Episode is with the men behind the Burger business. Founder Danny Meyer and CEO Randy Randy Garate shake shack was born. If you didn't know as a hotdog cart in two thousand one and the whole thing actually started Danny. Meyer says by accident accident so we dive into that. What's the story behind? What is now a publicly traded company and what are they trying to do when it comes to equality eighty and wages and their experiment with four day workweeks also? Are they planning to offer plant based items on the menu. That is a big question. Also some of their favourite memories like when President Obama came to eat checkup boss files subscribed today today. Fans of Kobe Bryant are gathering right now outside Staples Center in Los Angeles. It's a place ace where Kobe Bryant had some of his greatest on the court achievements including five. NBA Championships with the Lakers. CNN correspondent. Paul vercammen is outside staple senator forest. He's joining us right now. Paul set the scene for us because there are a lot of sad fans over there right now. Yeah they're heartbroken in their here outside staples grammy's across the street. They've been breaking in the chance of Kobe Bryant. MVP and look at this family behind me. Liz and family have showed up all of them in Kobe. Bryant gear and Liz. Why would it? Kobe mean to you that you would come out in your regalia. Uh so Kobe. Brian represented my whole life since I was eight years old and you know up until he retired tired. He's been the Laker logo. The leaker person in Moran's local as a human. You know seeing all the things he went through with his wife we know what the whole infidelity CNN rise with all his championships. And all that I just saw the human him not only the player you no. I believe that he was a good man and I believe that it was such. It's such a tragic loss. You know my husband and I. He's he knows all the stats adding on like everything me thought him. As a man the man you know the human we super appreciate your time out many such sentiments being expressed breath here and also the LAKER nation. If you will Kareem abdul-jabbar Light Kobe Bryant five NBA Championships in that Laker Jersey. There's e six overall for Kareem Kareem. Had this to say about the Lakers. Now fallen superstar to family. Ah Want to send my most sincere and heartfelt of regrets and prayers and my thoughts are with you. Guys was an incredible family man then he loved his wife and daughters. He was incredible athlete and a leader in a lot of ways inspired all generation of young athletes. Kobe my thoughts. Would you absolutely rest in peace young men. This loss is. It's this article and let me sum up some of the tweets that have been flooding in former president. Barack Barack Obama Kobe was a legend on the court and just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second can act and again. I'll just sum up. These tweets many of them quite lengthy his teammates kilo. Neil of course Kobe and Shaquille O'Neal winning three straight NBA Championships. Gene chips coma. Kobe was so much more than an athlete. He was a family man. That was what we had most in common. We love our families. Whenever ever we got together I would hug his children like they were my own? And don't forget for a moment that Kobe and Shaq once said to be at tremendous odds on the Lakers curse and then the legend himself Michael Jordan. I'm in shock over the tragic news of Kobe's N. Jonah's passing. Words can't describe cried the pain. I'm feeling I loved Kobe. He was like a little brother to me. We used to talk often and now outside staples you can hear the chance of MVP. The fans thinking about Kobe Bryant and every treasured memory they had for him Los Angeles is heart sick but they're they're celebrating Kobe as well wolf not only in Los Angeles but all over the country indeed is so much of the World Paul Vercammen. Thank you very much for that report. WE'RE GONNA much more ahead of the breaking news of next. We'll talk to someone who interviewed Kobe Bryant very recently about life after basketball at his legendary career. Hey Everyone Andrew Aydin here host of the brand new podcast from H. L. N. down the hill. The Delphi murders. This is the story of Abigail Williams Liberty German German. They were typical teens into arts softball snapchat and in February of two thousand seventeen. They went for a hike on a warm day in Delphi. Indiana and and vanished nearly twenty four hours after that hike. Their bodies are found in the woods. They've been murdered and the police begin working a crime scene. They say A. They'll never unsee also found libby cellphone which has video and audio of the killer who three years later remains on the loose looks down the hill. The DELPHI murders begins on February fifth. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. Look at the live pictures right now outside the the Al Los Angeles Staples Center. That's the home of the Los Angeles Lakers were Kobe. Bryant played for some twenty seasons tragically very sadly died today day in a helicopter crash south together with his thirteen year old daughter and eight other people dead at the age unfortunately only forty one years old wanna bring rigging Ernie Johnson right now is the host of inside the NBA on TNT. Our Sister Network Ernie so sad. I don't know what you could tell us but you covered Kobe Bryant for so many years. What went through your mind when you heard this horrific news wolf? It was skill Columba. Lebron Yeah I was. I had been North Carolina speaking and was driving getting home just listening to music as I was driving and my song called. Eric told me you heard the news and I said what are you talking about me told me don't believe it and I And will that that hits me. Hardest is is just how a family shattered it's Johnston comprehensible and And again as I continued to drive on the night. Switch the radio go to the NBA station for them talking about it and it's just it's just incredible. I thought that I called Kenny. And I called Charles. I called Shack and and And it was pretty much the same kind of thing. Just justice The stunned reality that this had happened And Look we'll I wish I ahead magic words or I could say something to make better at something profound to say and I don't I'm just I'm just loss and and all of us are And to see at the age of forty one and a guy was so much going for him not just talking about basketball ascot ball skills. I'm just saying this guy gets it and had wonderful lands for his family and his daughters and And it's just very tell big because You know you you. Well you reported on him you covered him. You got to know him I met him on a few occasions over the years What impressed me so much was yes? He was one of the greatest basketball players. Ever one of the greatest athletes. It's ever but he was such a nice human being such a nice person a truly wonderful man and I wanted to speak a little bit about veteran. Well Ah the thing that that always stuck out to me about. Kobe was not just his ability to play the game but his ability to the game and when we when he announced his retirement and he was playing his last season. Nate the Lakers came through Atlanta. And we arranged to do a sit down at the team hotel and we talked about. You know who is a toughest guy who gave you the gave you the the toughest time defensively was there. Kobe stopper and that kind of thing but also we just talked about the mental aspect of the game and he said to be a success in this league you have to understand human nature as he put it to me that they said look you can execute on the floor till the cows come home but unless you know what makes a player lawyer tick. You're Never GonNa win a championship. And you don't hear talk like that Jerry off mathematics. It was really deep and it was very insightful and it just just gave you a glimpse into the kind of person that Koby Bryant was when he took the floor. Everybody wants to win out there wolf but those host who have the success that Cobra had take it to that next level somehow mentally and he was able to do that and and drive himself to always be always be better and he was the capital. That team When just to go back in fact it's ten years ago? Okay you remember the Lakers. We had the western conference finals on. TNT Lakers win the Western Conference finals. I'm doing the trophy. Presentation and on that Laker team was wrought our test who was for the first time in his life going to go to the NBA finals. And so as I I stood there in a commercial break and I'm ready to do this interview I was looking for Ron behind all these players. I was standing next to Kobe because he was going to be the guy I talked to. I and I said where's Ron Gobi. Says what do you need Ron for said. He's going to the finals for the first time I said I'd I'd love to talk to him about that and Kobe knowing what Ron was asked to save from time to time said No. You're not doing that. I said come on. This guy is going to the finals for the first time he says. No I look at Phil Jackson. I said Phil come on. He says that's the captain and so the only guy I've talked to. There was Kobe Bryant. And that told you the the sway. He held there the respect. He had there on that Laker team and he was going to do what he viewed as the best for that. Ah For that Organization for that team at that moment and that was he would be the spokesperson and didn't want anything to go up on anybody's bulletin board or anything else he was going to be the spokesman that day you know. I think I speak for a lot of fans out there. I'm a season ticket holder for the Washington Wizards our hometown team here in the nation's capital and whenever over these many years the Lakers would come to town and we knew Kobe Bryant would be playing not just me but twenty thousand fans at the that would come to a game We got so excited. We just took a look at Kobe. Bryant playing right here and I'm sure it was going on all over the country at every stadium where he showed up and if he played internationally in Olympic game or whatever the same thing was going to talk a little bit about what he meant for for the NBA fans. I think he had the ability wolf and not that many players have it. There were a few who do that. You can feel the electricity in the building and the buzz from the fans when he touches the ball. You know Michael Jordan had Kobe. Bryant had that there were certain superstars who who have have that effect. Because you're just waiting to see what he's going to come up with next. I remember before Kobe came in the league. I would watch some of these great showdown between Dominique Wilkins and Michael Jordan. And I'd see Michael Make some moves in the course of the game and you've seen him where you sit man. How does anybody do that? We'll never see that when Kobe Bryant came in the League you saw that all the time and he had Michael as a role model a guy to look at and say that's the level I wanna be at and so he gave you those sentences those same kind of highlights on a nightly basis. And I and again you can look at players like look my buddy Charles. Barkley Alan Iverson Russell Russell Westbrook Michael Kobi. And here's what you know for. Sure that if you'RE GONNA pay money to go to a game in which those guys were playing you're not gonNA get cheated. They are going to give you absolutely everything like with Charles. You knew you were going to be entertained. You know he might get a might go for twenty points twenty rebounds but he also might tackle the mascot make your son daughter laugh with Alan Iverson. You knew that he wasn't going to leave anything in the tank. Same same with a guy like Westbrook and coby same deal driven to win driven to excel and and fleshed with God given even abilities that that we're just jaw dropping. I'll see you in a couple of weeks or so at the NBA All star weekend. all-star game weekend weekend in Chicago Ernie. And you know I asked any Smith this. It's going to have the death of Kobe. Bryant will have an impact on that weekend wolf to lose David Stern and a longtime NBA. Commissioner Yeah Yeah in in this span of time Now it's going to have a very different feel in Chicago and it was one of these things to you. Know I've been watching the coverage. And then you know looking at social media and seeing I mean it's just heartbreaking wolf to see the players around the league and how they are just empty. Nobody can believe what's happened and I don't know how those guys were playing that airplane unless they are simply driven riven by look. This one's for Kobe because he had he had that he had such an impact on all those players coming up who would watch him and those who had the chance to play against him And now to see an all star weekend and I was we. Were just just talking about him the other day when we were announcing the starters on our show the other night because Lebron is voted to start her again and I said well that breaks a time for the all time most with Kobe Bryant and then Kobe Bryant last night passed for third on the all-time scoring list by Lebron James. So he's out out of the game but very much still in the game because he was so great and and hardly a night goes by where you don't bring him up for some reason you know Oh that you know this player now joins colby and this player in this player had do this or that in an NBA game so to go to Chicago. Bill where we celebrate this game and how much fun. It is. it's going to have a different field And when one of those things that I saw on twitter with somebody had posted draft night ninety six and I was working with Hugh Brown and Rick Pitino on that show and it had had our description of You know the the ready with the next big at. Here's David Stern announcing the Charlotte is drafting Kobe. Bryant and that took me back But it just seems like a blink. It just seems like that just happened. We were just announcing Kobe. Bryant's coming Manila League. And now here we are on this day shaking our heads and than employing in the wake of something that we just can't Caitlyn richly you make an important point We lost in the last few weeks. David Stern the longtime commissioner of the NBA. Kobe Bryant would you host what is one of the most special parts of NBA All Star game weekend and in Chicago this year the NBA Legends Brunch. It's going to take on a whole new impact as a result of these these two losses that all of us have have been going through over these today over the past. Few weeks As Usual Ernie. You're you're a great man. Thank you so much for joining us Look forward to seeing you in Chicago. It's he would want the players to play. He would want the All Star game to go on. That's his nature. You knew him a lot better than I did. But I'm sure he's he's watching and he's and he's He's happy that the game continues because that was so important to earn Johnson. Thank you so much for joining us in and prayers for his family to. It's I just can't even begin to think what they're going through. Thank you our deepest condolences to his wife and the kids and the whole family and his friends and may he rest in peace and as we say may as memory be a blessing. We'll be right back.

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Hour 1: The Life of Kobe Bryant

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Hour 1: The Life of Kobe Bryant

"Uh good morning this is get up on. Espn Mike Greenberg. Laura Rutledge and as you see. We have our whole crew ready to go to here. We will get into some super bowl coverage for you this morning with Bobby Carpenter and Bart Scott Timmy. LEGLER's delivers here. Richard Jefferson is here because obviously the entire world of sports continues to mourn the death of Kobe Bryant and all the others in the helicopter crash in the Los Angeles area on Sunday. We have the very latest on the crash for you now. National Transportation Safety Board investigators confirm that the pilot was trying to climb above a layer of clouds before plunging into a canyon near Calabasas on the outskirts of Los Angeles. All nine victims have now been identified including the pilot of the helicopter. ESPN has confirmed. He is fifty year old Arizona. He had two decades of experience and had flown Kobe Bryant several times before meanwhile the makeshift shift memorial outside the Staples Center continues to grow the NBA has postponed. Tonight's game there between the Lakers and the clippers and across the NBA teams continued tended to pay tribute to Kobe. Bryant in Detroit the Pistons Were Jerseys with the number twenty four on them former Laker. Larry Nance junior seen crying on the cavs bench and re you treated to the locker room to collect himself during the game before eventually returning in Minnesota the timber wolves took an eight second violation and put the ball all at the foul line where Kobe Past Jay on all time scoring list former laker coach in Kobe teammate. Luke Walton looking on and the timberwolves fans showing their respect respect and in Dallas. Luca Donncha. Who talked with Kobe just last month? We're Kobe sneakers. wrote the names of all the victims in the crash on his shoes before the game. Here's Donncha Chech- on everything that Kobe meant to him. It was very emotional down after the first quarter. That's they just snap it was. It was really hard to. Kobe was a trailblazer. He was someone that I I looked up to my entire childhood wanting to be like him wanting the hit the last shots like him not only as a basketball player but just seeing how he matched into as a father I think all of us on this court court are really strive to be like that in our second careers image. It keeps coming back to my head is the footage of of Kobe and his daughter at the Lakers game him about a month ago when she's asking him questions and he's pointing things out and think about how beautiful that scene was and how many how many incredible times times they had ahead of them. He lived his life to the fullest every single day. And he's an absolute inspiration and I'm Honored to be able to call myself his friend and his teammates and his brother and all those things that came with the years we spent together. Lebron James took to instagram last night to share his thoughts which read in part. I'm not ready but here I go man just sitting here trying to write something for this post but every time I try I began crying again just thinking about you. Niece G G and the Friendship Bond Brotherhood that we had. I literally just heard your voice Sunday morning morning before I let Philly to head back to. La Didn't think for one bit in a million years. That would be the last conversation we'd have. I'm heartbroken and devastated my brother man. I love you big Bro. My heart goes to Vanessa and the kids. I promise you continue your legacy man. You mean so much to us all here especially LAKER nation. And it's my responsibility to put this on my back and keep it going. Meanwhile Kobe's former teammate. Shaquille O'Neal spoke on his podcast. Now I'm not doing well sick. You're watching all highlights and just trying to remiss immunise. We still are the best Dur. Recreate it that's not GonNa Change but I wish is sixty or seventy and folks home on the show we could talk about the only with NSF to me is. I'm not going to be there. He's not GonNa be here when he walks into the hall of fame. I was just thinking about. Who is he going to call up to bring them in? Who's WHO's GonNa give a speech as you're gonNA call call Mike who it's not gonNA happen? I have a little brother but I really lost her brother yesterday. One of the many things about this that I've been thinking about the last day or two's is that in March at the final four. I guess the beginning of April is when they announced this year's class the hall of fame and he most certainly is going to be among those so this is the year that he will go into the hall of fame and one can only imagine what that ceremony is going to be like as he goes in now posthumously again timmy. Legs and Richard Jefferson in jail. Start with you. We've not had a chance to talk with you here. You're in La Guy you make your home there. You played against him in the finals playing for for the nets once upon a time. Just what are your thoughts today. It's been tough right and I'm not a person that's typically short for words but when you you know my parents are from Philly and growing up they enjoyed watching him. And then my kids who are addicted to bass won't even at five and when you see a five year old not fully processing. What's what's going on up into a seventy year old not processing? And that's the reach that he add people grew up watching and people loved him in so many different ways and so to have this and to see the impact of his daughter and all the other families there were you know entire families mom and dad and daughter lost in in the crash. And there's so many kids and so many people affected it's just it's hard to understand what's going on right now. You're telling us this morning and you and he shared among other things Common bond of having coached your kids that you did that and that you and he talked a lot about that and I know that's one of the things that's on your mind today. Yeah I think that's the thing that keeps haunting me that I can't escape escape. Is I think about as players professional athlete of the sacrifices you make in terms of your family the time commitment that you have to do that at at that level for that long. You're obsessed with the time. You're a kid you miss things and I'm not talking about birthdays and holidays because you could celebrate those things at a different day before you take attended attend a road trip. I'm talking about the little things being around your kids. You're eating cereal watching. TV and they say something funny being games things like that. You Miss Things so as careers winding down. You start to make that transition and you can't wait to make up for those things and to spend all that time with your family and when it comes to coaching I was is able to do that. I'm so blessed and some of the greatest memories I will have my entire life and they bond. I have with both of my children. I got to do that. I think about the car rides and the plane rides and the hotels and the practices practices and all of those tournaments. All of those things. The best part about it was we were doing it together. And so when I see the commitment that he had to make that happen for his daughter and the other kids with the academy that he opened up what haunts me is that I know how much he was looking forward to that phase of his life and he deserved to have if that's so much because of what he gave to the game and he's not going to be able to do that and that's the part that really wells up the emotion in me and I'm so grateful that I had the opportunity to do that with my kids and no no Kobe's looking forward to that same faced yesterday on I take molly. Rose asked a question that I think struck both of us. That was what was it about Kobe that it made all of us feel like we knew him in some way and inspired everybody. This glue that held people together. How would you answer that question? Well was it out and we watch them grow up you know everyone especially in. La with all the bright lights and there's a brotherhood of guys that go straight to the NBA. No different than guys at all come from Arizona. A- all come from North Carolina there's a brotherhood and so when you watch him at seventeen years will be one of the most dynamic athletes and the entire world watched him grow up in La and not only not only make mistakes but also go and work tirelessly and become a champion in an MVP. We watched his entire life almost like it was a reality the show in La so everyone is connected to him. And then you just watch the again the Oscars and the Hollywood walk of fame like he him in La were so interconnected but he also had roots you know on the east coast so it was just. There was so much about coby that just spread throughout. He was one of the first players to go. Go to China and say like Hey. I'm going to make my mark here and I'm going to help grow the game of basketball so internationally people are morning. I think you're onto something here. Two legs I tried to mention this yesterday. But there's just so many people that have so many different thoughts but in my Comparatively limited experience with him. He struck me. He's happier now in his life than he ever was when he was playing. I interviewed him probably fifteen times while he was playing and spent a couple of a few events with him afterwards. Were you spend some time away from everyone else and I think it's exactly what you're talking about that he had. He had done everything he set out to do. He had accomplished that and he was genuinely. A person says I had climbed that mountain. Now I'm looking to the next mountain and he didn't think that much about his past he really was looking forward to his future and it does all the things you were talking about among others. I mean he had all sorts of aspirations in the world of entertainment and many other business interests but it was this primarily is being with his family that I think brought him a lot of joy and delight of all the things that bother me about this that I think is what bothers me the most no question and I think you know you never know what your children are going going to fall in love with that you also loved. You don't know that neither do some to it and we'll see if they take to it so that have his daughter fall in love with something that he built his life around. I can't imagine how rewarding it was for him. How special that was? And that bond was for him and you think about guys on that level I think the process for him as a player a a lot of that is you know the exile of fear of failure and in some ways. You're more relieved not to fail. Then you get the joy out of winning when you get to this phase as your life. That's gone that's why we saw the content. He was how happy he was to make the transition to the next phase of his life because he gave everything he had never cheated it for a second second. Now it's let's pass it on now here and let me spend this time with my family in a very relaxed state of mind though fear of failure here and I think you know greatness tightness that's often the case so a little later this morning legs was telling us a story today that I want him to share here that you were playing pickup basketball with Kobe Bryant when he was fifteen years old and you were in the NBA so magnificent store and we will get to that but one of the overarching story. Lines here is that the Lakers were supposed to play tonight at home against the clippers. By now I'm sure. Are you aware that game has been postponed and I wanNA bring Adrian Origin Ascii here are NBA insider with that. Why did the League ultimately decided to postpone the game tonight? Greenie essentially essentially because the Lakers. Ask them if they could do that. And told the League and the clippers. We're not ready to play this game. We're not ready to host. What would really be an event of some magnitude So quickly after Kobe's passing the clippers acquiesced to this and the Lakers now will open up they'll play again on Friday against Portland on. ESPN and of course. The postponement date is made easier. Because it's two two teams in the same city who share the same arena. It's easier to find a date to play this game again. That doesn't disrupt their schedules all right. So there's that piece of it and as you say they will take to the court again on Friday and let me tell you have a piece on. ESPN DOT COM. That went up just a short time ago about coby being about your experiences with him. Is there one story from that. That you'd like to share Walgreen. I I just think in general for me I think the the the only real currency are in see. You have in a job like mine I think is the trust. People have in you to to tell their stories to perhaps share their information. And I would say when I became a full-time NBA reporter a in and around that time of two thousand seven two thousand and a a no one gave me more credibility in the league that I think Kobe did because we you know we built a professional relationship and he. He was willing to tell me his stories he was willing to talk to me and I really felt that that resonated for me for years and even even now he gave me credibility when. I'm not sure how much I had around In a Lotta ways he helped helped me build a career as an NBA. A writer. And I thought more about that here in the last couple of days. I think there's certainly a lot of other people who've who've impacted my career in that way but but none more than Kobe Bryant wanted. That's beautiful piece. I wo- JENN. Thank you very much. And obviously we'll continue to lean on you for the latest on all of these developments across the League in the meantime of course it is super bowl week in the NFL is standing in solidarity with their NBA counterparts. They honored Kobe. Bryant with a moment of silence prior to the start of Super Bowl fifty four is opening night at Marlins Park last night and Travis Kelsey of Kansas City was one of the many. NFL players that took time to remember Kobe Bryant. It's hard to put into words. Exactly actly how everyone feels. It felt like was mortar. Really and it feels unreal. That he's gone. I was in the dumps and then I just thought about what what he would tell me. You know what I mean. We'll tell me. Stop being a baby and man up and play it and do it in his honor and win this game forum. I'M GONNA go out there and try to play some dominating fall just like he won. Komo Mama mentality still live on other than my parents like us reason I played sports. Just his mindset is known the mob mentality and I wore the number twenty. Four in high school My freshman sophomore year because of him. I work Kobe Bryant basketball shoes because Kobe Bryant now I still watch videos on youtube day before games and just listen to them talk and and how he puts everything in perspective of being great on and off the field with his kids and his and his business ventures and then obviously his play and I mean it's a it's a tragedy prayers his family. He made a huge impact on my life for sure very few and far between are the athletes who have the kind of extraordinarily broad impact on the sports world world and beyond the Kobe. Bryant did and with that thought in mind we bring in our football crew this morning. Bobby Carpenter and Bart Scott and Bart. I'll start with you telling us this morning that that they were players and one in particular that you played with WHO. You always reminded you of Kobe Bryant. Well I mean I play with a lot of great players hall of Famers Rather Jonathan Ogden. Ed Re Derail Rivas eventually early. But that Ray Lewis mentality that leadership model when you talk about great players and guys who dare to be great but he was unapologetically you you know about his greatness in you can feel it every day and preparation the same thing that you see on Monday and Tuesday you see Sunday and that's when I think about Kobe Bryant. That's why I think about at the most because he forces you to raise your level to try and match them and it's hard as an athlete. We've all been good but those that are able to be great and able to lock in mentally mentally. It's hard to be able to to understand and admit to yourself that this guy just better than me and that you'll you just want to try and drift and and try and be as good as he is and that mob mentality is something that you know we all try and strive and put into our lives. Lobbying your career. Who did you play with reminded you of Coby so naturally looked at some of these great players? The guys that you've been around to excel. Who wanted to compete each and every day at everything into me you know? It's Tom Brady. I get New England and you all of a sudden you're experiencing a guy who is competing in July and competing in April and March like it's end of January where every single play matters. Everything you do is going to be examined in wanted to win every single situation it was treating it as such and come up to after the practice. Come up to you in the middle of the game or hey we need more of this. We need less of this. Yes we need to make sure that we're all on the same page pushing together and you can see those great players like that. They drive their teammates. They expect the most. I'll push that stuff out of them and you look at Kobe Bryant. When you see him he was one of the first guys to me? Being a contemporary of his playing basketball and other sports we got to watch him grow and you got to watch him go from the kitchen. The baggy suit getting drafted by the Hornets to becoming a global icon from a talent to a star and then ultimately like from a young man into a father. You're sitting there watching those things and watching that. Evolution is so impactful I think that's why his openness everybody felt like they knew so much more about an even people that he had never touched again. We will get to some football today. The Super Bowl this coming up on Sunday and Barton Bobby will break down some of the things about this matchup. That are intriguing. And we'RE GONNA the head down to Miami for the coverage of that but of course the coverage of Kobe and the crash continues. An investigators are still what we would describe as the beginning stages of their probe as they try how to figure out why exactly the helicopter carrying Kobe. Bryant and eight others did crash their focus right now is clearly on the fog and ABC News correspondent Tj. He Jay homes is with us again today from the crash site with the very latest good morning. TJ Man Machine Environment Greenie. Those are the three things. NTSB THE FBI says they're going to focus on this investigation and yes like you mentioned. You better believe whether it's going to be a big part of it so much. Talk about how foggy it was that morning. And the the investigators say they will answer the question of should. That pilot happened flying where he was at that time. The NTSB is on the ground this morning investigating the circumstances surrounding the helicopter crash that killed NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant his thirteen year old daughter. Zhanna and seven others saying weather is just one one of the many factors that may have contributed to this tragic accident and nine oh six. AM The helicopter left and Orange County airport and headed to a basketball game. In thousand OAKS WCHS at nine forty four witnesses report hearing a helicopter flying very low air. Traffic controllers informed the pilot. They can't detect him on radar to Echo Echo. Okay you're still low level for five following the time. Investigators say the helicopter did not have a black box and was not required to have have one but an IPAD was found among the wreckage which they believe was used for weather updates flight planning and tracking. We haven't obtained the IPAD yet. We know there was an IPAD PAT with four flight on it. There were other electronics on board That we're looking for in the records. One witness to Sunday's crash called nine one one after hearing a big thud tilling ABC News. The fog was thick as milk at the time. You can hear the helicopter anything. I can't see anything if I couldn't see it. And I'm looking directly. Got It. He he's not gonna be able to see anything on the ground the La County Coroner Special Operations Response Team resumed their work Monday on the calabashes mountainside to to recover the victims. Brian spoke about flying on helicopters as his preferred mode of transportation in a December twenty eighteen interview with Barstool sports saying it allowed him to spend more time with his daughters traffic. Start getting really really bad right now. Sitting in traffic I wanted missing like a school play because I was sitting in traffic in this distinguished. Came out only only the had to figure out a way rockets. Still Train and focus on the craft but still not compromise family ton. Kobe Bryant and his daughters Yanna died alongside aside basketball coach and mother of three Christina. mouser John and Kerrie ULTA belly were also on the flight with their daughter. Eliza Sarah Chester and her daughter Peyton were also on board and the pilot Eras Abyan who according to group three aviation was flying the aircraft investigators called this a quote devastating being accident scene with a debris field to football fields along with some debris down the hill. Some of it over the hill and Greenie. They are asking for the public's help. If you have pictures of the weather here that morning they would like those pictures send them to the. NTSB can help them pieces together but green. They say they are confident. They will find the cause of this accident. It's TJ home for the very latest. Thank you so much very much appreciate this today and we will take a short break is. We're just getting started this morning on get we will have much more on the life and the legacy of the Great Kobe. Kobe Bryant as we continue you're watching up on ESPN You ever been locked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. 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We have much more of our coverage on Kobe Bryant this morning his legacy in five minutes his love of the game a little later in the hour and we'll be live in Los Angeles off the top of our next hour our continuing coverage the passing of Kobe. Brian Rolls on just. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating. I was training experience. I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed. An out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars. Each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like a world class German blade factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering one hundred percent quality guarantee. 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I think that's a very powerful message to have in something that hopefully the players are now players that will come later Home choose to embody as well moments. That will live forever. Kobe Bryant and winning his his first championship in two thousand against the Pacers he at twenty six and ten in the decisive game. Six fast forward January two thousand six Kobe Bryant a career your high eighty one points against the raptors second most points scored by any player in any game in NBA history. Two thousand nine season after he was the MVP he wins the first of two titles without Shaquille O'Neal it was mvp of the finals that year and the following cemented himself as one of the all time greats and then of course legendarily sixty points in his final game in the last interview. I ever did with him just last year. I asked him how he thought he stacked up against the other. All Time Greats in the sports history this was. His answer is hard for people to believe. But I really don't care you know like I've moved on. You have a career. You do the best you can do. Twenty years I was very fortunate to play. And then you shelf. You're done move onto the next thing so now. I'm focused on these next twenty years and so those debates are entertaining. I'm sure so fun for people to engage on those engaging engage in those but for me personally. It doesn't matter when everyone gets into the is Lebron better than Kobe. Whatever it is and you hear it you cannot hear Oh shit like no reaction? Sure no I think the best way to explain. It is a typically. Do not engage in things that I cannot definitively win. I've asked those kinds of questions. I'm very fortunate to have been able to ask those kinds of questions to most of the greatest players of the last few generations and almost all of them try and tell you they really don't care where people stack them up against others. He's the only one who ever said that I believed it. Because he didn't want to talk about about his career he really was already on talking about other things and then you watch his actions. What were his actions? His actions were all about expanding the next generation ration- basketball players female male being there for his daughter and helping to coach her. He even openly said it. She brought me back into the game. I wasn't even watching basketball but because she had a love for it bonded us. Now if you don't have a if she's the one bring you back. That means that you were away and that was a very obvious is in real statement. And that's why I think everyone connected with. GD also so much one of the things that I want to do here the last two days and it's hard to do in the wake of what's happened is true celebrate celebrate how genuinely great a player he was. He may not have wanted to talk about it. But that doesn't mean that we can't and legs we were talking during the break and you. You made a comment. I thought was really interesting. Thing about there were a great athletes and their great fundamentally sound players and then there was Kobe Bryant and as you know when you played against these guys and rich this you could deal with ridiculous athlete and find a way to bait that person into maybe doing something. They weren't comfortable doing right and there were there were shortcuts. You could take to deal with that and they'll get me wrong. That was as a challenge in and of itself. And then you had the super fundamentally sound guy. But he wasn't gonNA blow by you. Were jump over you. Those guys represented a different kind of challenge to but again wasn't the type of thing where you got. Your heart rate was going up because of that then you have a guy like Kobe Bryant. who had to ridiculous athleticism freak athleticism combined with what I think might be the greatest footwork in the history of the game when you look at his ability to turn either shoulder to pivot off either foot to go either direction he had no weakness whatsoever whatsoever as a player when you combine the two things at one now? What you have is a nightmare on your hands? And that's what coby was to defend and the other thing Richard was an. Ah You know played ten years in the League and Michael Jordan won six titles during that time so I got to play against him to barely got Kobe at the very beginning of his career. But the one thing they did have in common they would only we to guys. I ever played against that. Never took a second off where they weren't thinking about going when they got so you can never relax. You couldn't turn your head for split-second I can make the slightest mistake. They were back cutting you. Every time they caught it. Their initial reaction was deterrent square. And try to go on you. I play a lot of hall of famers of some of those guys would take plays off or they spotted it up and watch somebody else play. You could take a breath not the case with the look. I prayed against Prime Kobe in MJ on his comeback. And when I tell you he was the first portion in Kobe. Bryant was the first person that when I play with their running fist up five down watch the back cut like he was like a free safety in their defense. So to your point when you combine signed the physical ability where he's one of the top three athletes when you combine the footwork and the technique and how hard he worked there and then you combine the mental ability to focus focus in and help his teammates. You were sitting out there and you are going against a one man machine and everything was built around him. What were your conversations like with your teammates before you? I've had to face cove like. How are you going to stop him? Well it was. Did you get some rest because you knew that it was going to be on both sides now. I was hope fortunate to play with Vince Carter for multiple years years and he always wanted that challenge. Kobe always it didn't matter if it was T- Mac and didn't matter who it was. He took that challenge. So against Vince. Carter he would go and just is trying. And so I had the fortune of having maybe the third best defender on me and if I ever got going all of a sudden switch in then. Kobe was going to be guarding me. And you looked at like okay. This is a sign of respect. This a sign of respect. He was like this moment with vans. I started on him. You're playing well so he was just constantly moving back and forth to whoever it was he felt. It was time to slow down or stop. We will have much more on Kobe as the day continues and of course the NBA season continues in this week our NBA Wednesday doubleheader. We'll we'll start in Brooklyn Kyrie in the natural host Andre Drummond and the Pistons at seven thirty Eastern. Then we'll go to the Rose City James Harden Russell Westbrook and the rockets taking on the Red Hot Dame Willard and the trailblazers coverage begins with Stephen as pre-game sportscenter seven eastern on ESPN and the ESPN APP. It has been a magical postseason postseason run for Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs as we get to super bowl here. He's thrown for eight touchdowns and no interceptions in to come from behind. Victories this postseason Travis. Atas Kelsey is tight. End Confident in his quarterback petting into the super bowl back on this stage. Now come on showtime time homes. Baby you know he's ready for. He's nonstop evolving his game. Taking it to the next level touchdowns or not. He helped us win a football game every single time. He touched the ball. I'm taking Pat Mahoney against against any quarterback in the national football league. Look obviously you're going to be confident in Patrick Mahomes. If he's record. Patrick Mahomes is confident in itself. There have been in some really talented quarterbacks who have not performed that well in super bowls is Patrick. Mahomes a guy that you would be concerned about that. The stage somehow being too big for embarked. I mean we just don't know right. We've seen great quarterback struggle in his game. This game is different than any other game that you play you. We're creatures have as athletes and we're used to doing things and going into schedule. You know everything about this game is completely different. You look at a lot of quarterbacks that come in and we think it's a foregone conclusion that mahomes gonNA come in and dominate. The problem is that's why we play the game. And you you need the San Francisco Forty niners to cooperate and you'll they are playing with house money. They're not supposed to win this game so they get to come in with a a a sense of relief. MAHOMES is not only plan for himself. But he's planning for Andy Reid legacy and when you put all that on top of you and you think about it in a moment if you come on and things it doesn't work out and you struggle. What do so interesting way to look at it but the video that you just saw there were both whole bunch of guys who are in? The Hall of Fame Franson Jim Kelly and Peyton manning all all of whom had some miserable days on super bowl Sunday as did of course Cam Newton against the threat of commonality amongst those was the great defense. Say we're facing so this San Francisco Defense Defense. I think we all think Patrick mahomes great player. He's not going to wilt he's not going to wilt but is the San Francisco defense enough to cause all kinds of problems. Their defense that causes problems for a lot of guys. They're gonNA cause issues but I don't think it's due to patent homes inexperienced Look at him one of the things that he's best that literally best asked in the. NFL is attacking zone defenses. He's absolutely phenomenal because of his accuracy because of his arm strength and because of his awareness and his ability to understand understand identified the zone. Get the ball out in an accurate and timely fashion and then also his ability to write for it in their beloved the they love the cover three defense and you see see drew brees taking advantage of it against San Francisco or against New San Francisco rather and then you see mahomes. He's going to be able to do a lot of those same methinks. The things he's a drew brees with the accuracy but he has a stronger at this point. He's still more athletic to get the ball out. But he's throwing his interceptions against the zone. Only one against man man to man. And that's what that's the problem because all it takes one tip ball. All it takes is one pick six and it changes total dynamic because it's so much pressure put on him because this is for all the marbles so if things don't go the way they do expect them to go on this San Francisco running game is able to step it up and to try and take possessions away. Then how does mahomed react. We don't know how mahomes gonNA react his teammates. All I know is look at this guy on third and fifteen down that no quarterback wants to be an ever that nobody wants to be in a situation where they can do whatever they you want rush rush seven dropped seven. Drop eight whatever it is. He excels in that situation. Better than anybody so I think the pressure gets him less than any other quarterback that we've seen after continues. Of course we will. We will continue getting you ready for the super bowl which is coming up this Sunday. We'll head down to Miami for some of that coverage tomorrow and the rest of the week in the meantime as as we continue this morning we will of course have much more on the life and the legacy of Kobe Bryant. Including if you do not see it yesterday Tracy McGrady's very emotional tribute to Kobe. Engine on the jump. We'll show you that after this. You're watching get up on. ESPN interesting creature. Inhabits the flat arid plains of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead. It's most agreeable and will not allow them to anything despite having having no brain function but when the bottle had. Here's how Geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone deal not not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer bobblehead easy you can get whiplash tributes to Kobe. Bryant extended to the game last night between UCONN and Team USA an exhibition where the Connecticut team set aside a seat for g g featured a photo of the pair on the scoreboard and observed a moment of silence. Meanwhile Tracy McGrady was very emotional yesterday when remembering her in particular. I'll sit there and watch and before the gate I'll go up and I'll give Zhijie hug and tell her to go out there and kill it. She's like don't worry about that. I'm MM COMERICA got this. And she was special she was built like Colby mannerisms everything I mean just to watch her play. It was like watching a young colby the mood she had a fadeaway convert to you so watching this girl and it it just looks like our dad out there and she's going to be special. It's tough to watch and we all all of us who are old enough to remember the legendary battles if you will between McGrady Kobe they were contemporaries. Areso came directly out of high school one year apart and obviously had that relationship that continued and now you made the point earlier this morning that it was through his daughter Gina that he really did come back to the game. I Richard. You said he had left. He retired he had sort of stepped away and he had so many other interests that it looked like he was moving to a totally different phase of his life and it was that relationship relationship that seems to have brought him back to basketball. I think when you're driven to that level of success a lot of times it more than even rejoicing in the success and the winning and everything else. You're you're driven even by a fear of failing and I think koby experienced and so as a result when you can finally relax take breath from that when you give everything to the game. You're you're focused. Turns to this right here and I I think about the you know the moments that I was able to before. It's enough to coach my kids and Man that countless tournaments in a game I coach both my children and the moments like this just being in a gym with Rebounding for them having fun with them at driving tournaments talking in the car getting ready for the games like all of those things like. That's what I look so forward to as a dad. Kobe obviously was getting into that phase. And he's right about sure he probably had no intention of going down that road with John and you have to wait to see is. Are My children going to take a loving of this game. The way that I did and once she did the bad obviously was clearly there and it was starting to get his juices flowing again for that. And what could she become. So I feel so so so sad that he won't mm could do experience that and to your point you look at how she started devolve as a player and then how he started to support her hero now he might have supported women's basketball. Aw Long before his daughter was it was a focal point for him in that space but she was a fan of so many people so all of a sudden send you would see him at Uconn basketball games you would see him going and watching. You Know Oregon play and he was constantly talking about women's basketball constantly talking about the US women's national national soccer team. He just started to support even more who his daughters were. And that's what made her and him so bonded and that's why the entire world got to watch him be a father to another future sport to another athlete and it was just the entire basketball community the tire female and male all sports world. We're all watching him. Grow up like we talked about was a reality show. He started at seventeen and we watched him do every aspect of his career including being a father her favorite for it NBA Player was trae. Young and just even seeing the impact that her loving trae has had on him and even before for all of this tragedy happened. I think it's incredible legs to just look at how that has become a part of this to all the people that not only her father affected acted but the G. G. has affected in her legacy. Yeah it's amazing you think about first of all how special you have to be as a young person to even embrace the sport when your parent is on that level thing about the pressure that comes with that and some of the things that you could run from and be afraid of because you're afraid of not living up to certain things so the thing that she had that quality at such a young age she wasn't going to run from it she was going to embrace it and she wanted to chase that and see how far I can go with this. I think that's something that athletes connect to when you see something special young person that has not only the talent. But they've got that equality that they're not not going to run from the light they're going to run to it and that is I think why Golly trae young and other athletes can really identify with her. And you see the reaction of Tracy McGrady and look at how he passed. It was going to her basketball game with a bunch of her teammates and friends and it was it. It's something that when you get to watch all of this go on and then you see how he passed it is. It's been something that's touched. Everyone in and me he personally. He has shown how to evolve even at in that transition in basketball. Right so after you're done retiring and you see him spending more time with his family. You See him coaching all of a sudden every guy. That's about to retire or hey. You've mirrored Kobe your whole life. And you see what he's doing now he is set an example for a father's everywhere and that's something that I commend him. And you know I it's going to be you know dearly missed in our next hour we have a lot more coverage of this including we're going to go live to Los Los Angeles off the top of the hour to look into what some of the Lakers plans are moving forward and there's much more to be said about this but of course Sunday is the super bowl and we will continue slowly but surely Shirley working our way towards that greeny the forty niners in the super bowl. They've scored a total of sixty four points. In their two victories. This post-season the running game has led the way as Jimmy Garoppolo. Their quarterback is only throwing the ball total of twenty seven times in the two wins Garoppolo. Cool with roller whatever it takes to win. We've won most of those games so as long as we're winning We passed the ball zero times rush for four hundred yards. And I'll be happy as a quarterback you WANNA throw it obviously but it's it's tough when you're running the ball for eight yards Kerry and just moving the sticks play after play. It's like do you really want to pass it and so you know I'm in that mindset whatever it takes to win and I felt like that my whole life and this is a team of guys like that like we do. It makes you tough to beat Jimmy. One Hell of quarterback he can throw them at the best of all. We don't have any any worries about G. Men are passing game. He's GonNa throw when we need to. We need to run the ball forty five times like I said. Throw the ball eight times. We will renew throw the ball. Forty Times run the ball ten times we will. So let's start with this. There's no team in the NFL that wouldn't sign up right now for only throwing eight passes. I beam running it as effectively as they did a week ago. Sunday and winning but there is I think think out there is skepticism. And I can see it on your face as we're listening to those conversations Bart about if the game winds up on the shoulders of San Francisco's quarterback whether that is a recipe. Happy that they can use to succeed. I mean I don't want to disrespect the two time superbowl champion which which is go for third super bowl but it's difficult right because we haven't seen. I'm not saying that he can't do it. We were talking about before we said. You know the first Super Bowl by Russell Wilson. He didn't do a lot. You think about Ben Rothlisberger. He didn't to allow his in his first super bowl. I'm not saying he can't do it but I'm saying I don't know about San Francisco. Wants to find out in the super bowl if he's capable of doing it if this run game stop down the field. Because he's not a drop back you'll set up you know Scam to fill the sages a rotating and started to pick you apart. He's a guy that ah you know understands. We're the holes in his own are off play action and being able to catch us open and his own. It's actually remarkable as we look at some of the moments that have not been spectacular for him in this post season again. His team has been comfortably ahead for the most part through these playoffs. So he hasn't had to do a lot but body at a time in which we analyze analyze practically every move every quarterback in the league makes down to the most microscopic detail. And here's a guy who's been around a while. He has the huge contract his team the Super Bowl and yet I feel like we know less about Jimmy Garoppolo a quarterback than we do practically any who was ever come into this game or not sign. No handsome is even with a little glistening there on the Super Bowl media day which is fantastic. Like he's only started for one season you know. We played five games against the big deal. It's hurt last year. They get Nick Bosa so maybe maybe into being the best for him when you look at what he's done this year they haven't asked him to do a ton but they did open. The Vikings game drove the ball down. The field. Looked good doing that. In one of the things that people people don't know he's pretty good at his second level throws between fifteen and twenty five yards one of the best in the NFL on the second level throats. One foot in the ground gets back find so he needs to get the ball to push it out of there so when he's able to do that he sees a clear vision Greenie. They're able to have success and so I look at training. Nobody's able the do that a little bit early on in the game to loosen up. I think that chiefs defense in allow him to throw allow the running game to get going so they don't get caught in a situation where they know exactly. What what they're gonNA do all right? You're shaking your head like develop trust Jimmy G.. I'm looking at my house man. 'cause I see barbecue chicken because you look at all those throws they're in between into numbers that tells me those. Are Our quarterback friendly throws. Can't he be accurate on the outside of the numbers and if I'm if I'm Kansas City I'm packing the middle of the field. I'm saying we'RE GONNA lose. WHO's GONNA be cuts? Jimmy Johns accurate. He's precise he's on his game. Looks that he's actually just as his inside so a lot of ducks sucks right. They're a Lotta defenders. Let him off the hook. We'll see what happens there more on the super bowl of course but coming up on get up much more on the life and legacy of Kobe Bryant as we continue to remember Tan Jonah and the victims of the helicopter crash GEICO presents doubly another voicemail from your roommate. I got some bad news. Someone broke into our apartment and they took your TV and your computer. But what's most upsetting. Is they took my water bottle. There it is. It's really worried trade for a second. 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Kobe Bryant dead at 41...Life is short

20 Minute Morning Show

07:17 min | 6 months ago

Kobe Bryant dead at 41...Life is short

"It was everybody before we start the twenty minute morning show. Let me tell you about anchor. If you've never heard of anchor this is the easiest way to make a podcast so let me explain Blaine. It's free there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or your computer anchors going to distribute your podcast for so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many more you can make money from podcasting with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast and one place so listen. Download the free APP right now or go to anchor dot. FM to get started and now stand by for the twenty minute morning show from our studios in Charlotte North Carolina. This is b.j Murphy on the twenty minute morning show for this Monday January twenty seventh. Everybody's still reeling from the death of Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant is dead at the age of forty one he he died in a helicopter crash. Flying over Calabasas California on his way to the basketball clinic that he and his daughter were running in. His daughter was a prolific athlete. She was in the plane as well. Gee Gee as she's known by and eight others were on the plane who perished and everybody cannot believe that Kobe Bryant is gone. I wrote this on my facebook page. I wanted to just say this briefly. Because how's the crew. We're going to get together and do an analysis on the life of Kobe Bryant. Later on in the twenty minute morning show For today once once we record but I said this Kobe Bryant is gone. His daughter is gone. His wife and remaining daughters are left left alone in this world. Brothers and sisters. I am a man who has lost. All of his family members like so many. I grieve often in the privacy of myself. The loss of life is heart-wrenching. The only thing we can do is to give each other the love that we deserve from one. Another that Kobe's death breath be a call for us to run into the arms of one another and serve each of 'em be humble and drop are false egos us before our time comes. We must learn from death. Death feeds life. If you understand have the courage to love. Even if people don't love you back this is the love Christ is trying to get us to challenge. People are fake love. Let's be real. He'll put another facebook post on. I wanted to read it to you as I was lying in embiid just looking scrolling through my phone I said as we born Kobe. Bryant's death. Let's remember that tomorrow's never promised to us. Yes we must spend our lives in the way of God and express our gift to the world like. Kobe did with his talent. All of us have a rendezvous with death less reflect on his death as a call to action for our own lives and then I put Hashtag time time and how we use it and the time and how we use it as exceedingly important because we do not know the day or time that the give of life will call it back and just like that. Kobe Bryant is gone just like that and the twinkling of an eye just like that. I wrote another post I want to share with you. I said life is short. Every moment you are alive is a sacred moment. Spend your time loving your moment. And God's universe and inspire others to bring the God inside of them out for the world to see Kobe. Bryant expressed his God hood in his life as a world class athlete. What will you give to the world tomorrow? Fill your life with truth and love for God has created for what God has created out of his mind. That's all of us when God takes good people away from us. He's doing something for the human to ponder and I put in quotes your lives are not your lives. They belong to me and I call interview back and the twinking in the twinkling of an eye to where it all began. This has got talking and then I said so again. Love is the best protection against the fear of death for love. Cast it out all fear. Don't be afraid to love. Love show show unimaginable. Love to your spouse your children in everybody that you come into contact with for you do not know when you're rendezvous would death will occur but when it does you can take the sting of death like a soldier and the army army of the Lord and that's what it's all about. It's about showing love to your fellow brothers and sisters every day Kobe. He is not here anymore but we are here and one day. You won't be here and yes I mean you know so shocking. When we got home yesterday afternoon my son was scrolling through his phone and he just just screamed out? No no no you know what's wrong. He said. Does it. Go on your phone going your phone and I want my facebook page and I post I saw was about the death breath of Kobe. Bryant so death is inevitable. I don't want to sound more on the podcast but we have to talk about it. But we're going to get more into it later with the group when we discuss The life and the death of Kobe Bryant one of the greatest it is athletes ever to walk the earth with the greatest work ethic of any athlete. There's been documented. I mean it's just his. His life is just incredible. You know a working out at three. Am Four am to get better and more proficient and put more distance distance between you and your contemporaries is just an outstanding work ethic that we should all follow Kobe. Bryant rest in peace brother. We're going to follow up on this podcast at just wanted to get something out to let you know that You know we own the Cason. Jason we want to express but God has put us of the life of Kobe Bryant and share some information. Not so see you on the next episode of the Twenty Minute Morning Show. We're GONNA get in-depth and talk about Kobe Bryant.

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Kobe. Bean. Bryant

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Kobe. Bean. Bryant

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You're listening to Fox sports radio. Why is in Miami? This is the her wherever you may be and however you may be listening thing. I Heart Radio Fox. Sports radio an F. S. one joy Taylor to my side She has been a great deal of time. Here me far less but it remains and one of my favorite places in North America to visit will be here all week. We have a massive staff. We have people watching us off the left and the right the beach the Atlantic Ocean to our right. Thank you so much for stopping by and it's going to be an incredible week for us. Yes of course today is a bit more somber for everybody I learned of the news yesterday flying from Atlanta. And let me just start with this. I think I read everything you could read last night. Got Into my hotel room and a lot of US struggle to get my feet beneath me and I watched all the videos videos. There's a video out there of Michael Jordan and Kobe. How their games often mirrored each other? That is unbelievable. It is mesmerizing. But but I want you to think of this when Koby Bryant retire it this is it just blows me away. When Kobe Bryant retired he had been an the NBA player longer twenty years then he had not been an NBA player in his life? Seventeen years so colby colby of course grew up right in front of our eyes and when people grow up in front of our eyes we see all of it right. It's an imperfect life to give give you some framing on how much of Kobe's life he lived in front of our eyes. Nobody asks most eighteen year olds in nineteen year old to grow up with a camera. There were two different versions of Kobe and fill two different versions. There was the Shack Act Dynasty then. Kobe shot too much. And then there was the Pao Ghazal Dynasty there was the eighty one points. OMG and then the sixty points in the final game WTA H. There was the number eight Kobe. There was the number twenty four Kobe. There was the staples Kobe. There was the Forum Koby. There was the sort of skinny Kobe. They were more buff. Koby the Afro. The Ball Mamba Byron Scott was his team mate and then Byron Scott was his coach approach. And then Jerry Buss was his boss and then Jim bus was his boss and then in the genie bus with his boss. Those are the versions of Kobe. And we watched all of it from nineteen years. Ought nobody else asked Abba camera in front of them. Imperfect flawed and vulnerable. And I'll get to in a second but I think one of the things. I always appreciated created about Kobe and he learned this after a while. When Kobe broke in the league he was aloof? He couldn't go to the bars or the nightclubs and there were stories that he didn't connect with teammates. People may forget the shack in Kobe version. People really wanted shack to stay if you had to choose but Kobe learned from that he always evolved. He made mistakes but colby then started giving more of himself the the last ten to fifteen years. He gave a lot of himself. He went from teenager to teammate. A hard coach to a pleasure to coach to a doting father and the more koby gave of himself. The deeper. I felt the connection was it is hard to leave it out there when you're a public figure and Kobe did a lot and you saw all of it and there were times you loved him and there were times you didn't and there were times you scream for him but in a world we live in today which is to say. It's divided that says diplomatic blah. Matic is I can currently say America is divided. There are years ago. Somebody asked me if I wanted to host a political show and I said it was so talks like this was ten years ago so angry I said I'd rather be part of something that unites us and music and sports do it and and it's hard to explain the loss of Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson or Kobe. Bryant's you don't you can't really explain what they mean when they leave us too soon right. You're heartbroken you're shaking you cry. You're sick don't try to explain it to people because music and sports are really different. I have gone to concerts more than a dozen times of my life and sat or stood next do a total stranger. And I'm dancing and I'm singing and you don't want to hear it and I've gone to sporting events and sat similarly early next to a total stranger and I'm high fiving and I'm yelling and I'm emoting and a complete and utter wreck and only sports arts and music does that. They're the great unifier and Kobe. Bryant gave us for twenty years all these memories news and marks in our life. You don't have to your shaken I was. I am get in terms of Kobe's game Kobe to me of the forty years I've watched. NBA Basketball is the great artists. The canvas was empty each possession. He was a painter. He was more fluid than Jordan. Let's physically overpowering them the bronx but he was the artist so it was not a coincidence coincidence. When he left basketball he won an Oscar in Hollywood? That too colby at the end was but there was something incredibly relatable to Kobe Bryant. And it's not this way with all stars I may love my favorite band Rockstar. Dr Hip Hop Star Musician. But I don't always feel like I relate and sometimes the NBA feels like genetically. I mean I've seen guys in college that look like Julian Edelman or Mike Trout but NBA guys are six six six seven and six eight making jump and they can you may never ever ever the court or a field or diamond with anybody that plays and has the athletic ability of an NBA player DNA. Wise they're different the nuts right but koby in the end was very relatable there's fifty guys in the NBA now. That are just as athletic as Kobe. But what really connected to me was Mamba Mental first of all nobody's allowed to give themselves a nickname and it sticks the Kobe didn't stock. That was Kobe force of nature. But what Mamba mentality with telling was that even though he was a Laker and even though he was a celebrity and even though he had a net worth over three hundred million dollars the mama mentality. I was telling you it's about the work. Lebron James told a story yesterday is that when I first met. Kobe was fifteen. There's video you media. People can go find it and we sat in a gym and we all looked up to cope and Kobe just gotten to the NBA and he had a game that night in Philadelphia but earlier in the day there was some tournament and Kobe came and talked to Lebron. He didn't know who Lebron was. Nobody at fourteen fifteen did in. Kobe said if you want to be here. It's about the work and when guys give themselves nicknames. It's often about themselves but really. It was about what Kobe gave us. These markers there's and these moments and the work it hurts. It should no reasonable explain with with that. I'll take a break in Miami. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard. 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I feel like we're the tourism agency today. We're going to be selling condos always get a commission for it and Chris Broussard by good friend. Joins joins me Fox sports. NBA Analysts Rough Day. For All of us yesterday rough opening segment for me enjoy and everybody you know I was thinking about this Chris. Listen I want you to. I didn't give you a heads up on this but mostly the way it works for icons is that it can be messy. It could be Gretzky it could be brady. They become icons. It's a slow gradual process. We don't annoy them as icons until they're ready. Because of our deep love for Michael Jordan Michael Career was ending and Colby played and sounded so so much like him we annoyed Kobe an icon before he started for the Lakers. He made an all star team at nineteen right. He started an all-star game. He didn't start for the Lakers. So unfair is probably not the right context but Kobe's iconic hi. Connie career started before because of his artistry and the way he played and looked like. MJ We said your an icon. Let's go back to the early Kobe years. I don't I don't think people many don't remember. He sat on the bench. Didn't play right. He had a rough early. All Star are game. It was not easy for him early. He averaged seven points a game as a rookie. So Yo- POI- and I think the reason people elevated him so quickly I gotta be honest in the NBA may not like me saying this and this is probably not true but my feeling was that they put him in the All Star game before he really was ready as you say he wasn't starting for the NBA and if you looked at devoting. He wasn't wanted a starters until like the last week or so. And so so I kind of felt like you know what they gonNA put him in. They rushed him right right. And that's not the way it works for icon. No one. Before he was ready he was the first guard. I nine big man to come. Directly out of high school to the Pros May Have Been Moses Malone Bill Willoughby Darryl Dawkins and then in Kevin Garnett and so that was part of what people want they were rushing him and anyone that dunk contest his second year. Yes following. MJ when it right there. In Cleveland in front of the fifty greatest players of all time and I think when he really solidified himself as a great player and I think this followed him throughout his career with his clutch reputation was in the two thousand finals. He was in his fourth year in the League and game for the NBA Finals. He had hurt his ankle. He missed game. Three of the finals only played eight minutes in game two because he injured the ankle in that game game for their plan Indiana. It's a tight game shack fouls out with like three minutes. Left and the game is tight and Coby at twenty twenty one years old takes over his three big shots. They win the game. They go up three won. The series is all these twenty-one yes and that solidifies no matter how many game winners he may have missed. After that no matter how many times he passed he passed the ball. This shack for the big alleyoop when they beat Portland was their game. Savvy all right Darryl Robert Ory Derek Fisher. Hit some of the big shots for that Lakers championship team in that run but koby will be even if he may not have taken the big shot or may not have hit the big shot. He was solidified with a made man in terms of his reputation as the clutch player. You on that follows because Lebron no matter how many shots he may have hit because early in his career he would pass it off. People say he doesn't want him. Also Michael Jordan hit the big college shot at Carolina. So he came into the league with a reputation. This guy is clutch. Lebron statistically mystically has been but those early you know those first impressions right are very very powerful. You know there's so much of Kobe To me one of the things I got into this conversation the other day and we were talking about Zion and I said Zion feels feels like to me. He could be Dr J.. I don't think in Kobe got some of this. Kobe had referenced. Dr J. Dr J. Average twenty five game eight rebounds flaws in his game but there was a style and a goal to Dr J. Michael Jordan was relentless colby. Colby felt to me like he was the artist in the league. Like he could mimic some of Michael's but his game was more fluid. That's why I think he. He was held in not just his points but like a doctor. J. There is an iconic nature to his being his style colby had style style. Yes copy was cool. I totally agree with you. And I think Jordan game was graceful and pretty but that is part of Kobe's attraction action his game not to keep bringing up Lebron but he's compared to his game is prettier than Lebron. Yes okay much Morozov Mack. Truck Colby is is graceful. His dunks I think Kobe's wanted a greatest game dunkers ever people don't put him in that category but he has some game ducks that are fabulous silas powerful and graceful at the same time. He's what most people say. The best tough shotmaker. We've ever see how bought by far the most tough shot maker Acre of all time. So here's your game. Being pretty and graceful that is a part that's part of what made him an icon. Is People love the way. He looks looks where he makes a move. It looks great. He's like Michael Jackson. I might be able to mimic. Some of his movement is not GonNa look as good as when Michael Jackson does it because the way his body moves and His grace that's how it is. We call he can do the same move as another player and is GonNa look better when call now if you look what is fascinating about basketball. Think about Kareem Wilt Magic Shaq and Kobe Kobe. So wilt was the ultimate playboy. He loves Los Angeles. Kareem was aloof right almost times embarrassed. Paris biocides Frickley at times. Here comes magic. Totally embraced Los Angeles. I WanNa live amongst the stars. Colby Colby I'm going to go live in Orange County I will dabble in it but this is a basketball life and then Lebron from that comes is in more like magic and of his career that Kobe to me there were elements of Kobe. That were like Kareem and that he was really bright and very introspective. Hopi made a choice Chris to not live in Beverly Hills or Belair in. I think I'll just your thoughts on that. It's really interesting that Kobe chose to keep la right at bay until the end point I. That's a great comparison. The Korean because as you say a highly intelligent but aloof I think that hurt Kareem and his post NBA career. I think it hurt Kobe in his early career. That's that's the thing remember it. Kobe grew up. And I think you said earlier right before is from seventeen to thirty seven and maybe even forty years old he he was he grew up in front of us so we watched him and I remember approaching Kobe early in his career. And there was there was like a little social awkwardness shirt and maybe a little aloofness or whatever and then midway through his career as he got more comfortable in his own skin as he matured like the rest of us do except we don't have to do it in front the spotlight. You could see him getting more and more comfortable with the media more more comfortable making comments and things like that so he just matured appeared and grew Korean. We never really saw that. Yeah but Koby did do it and the thing that I actually think is going to be a big part. Kobe's Legacy Z.. As great as it was physically on the court I think mentally yes it is just as powerful if not more and the thing I take from him is whatever you do. Whatever he did he did it to be the best? He didn't have stepped on anything. He didn't do anything to be mediocre. He didn't do anything. Because because hey I'm Kobe Bryant. I can do it. It'll make money if his heart wasn't in it he didn't do it so when he played basketball it was all basketball. He wasn't in movies movies and and doing things like that. He was focused on basketball. Nadya rat but for the most part it was straight basketball. Yeah then once he moved on he took the he has done and then he took that obsessive Nece to other areas coaching his daughter. y'All kids basketball. His his short documentary or and that's why he could excel in everything he did. He excelled because he focused on that thing so when he left the league like you said he coaches his daughter. He did the details but he didn't have to be on every TV show broadcasting in common knowing the game. He could have easily he. He wasn't that many Laker Games. Because he's with his family. So I think people can learn from Nazi part of his legacy is whatever you do go. Full bore at that thing. Go all in or you're in the way and that was Kobe. Chris Broussard is joining us. It is great to have you here joy Taylor as well. We are in Miami Miami beach one of our favorite places. This is one of the most beautiful places in the world so as we go in and out of breaks for the next week. We'll be giving you these vistas in these views. I just want to show people who are dropping ping in. We are not working for the Chamber of Commerce although it will feel like that and we're so happy to be here and treated so well because they're getting jealous listen. It could be the beach into Chris. Bruce are joining us on the passing of Kobe. Bryant and Jonah his daughter and others in a tragic event yesterday eh one of the things. This is a it's so sudden and it's so painful and I use Whitney Houston Houston. Michael Jackson Kobe Bryant their taken too early. And we have all these moments in markers in life where we connected with so it's okay to cry. I got off the plane yesterday day and from Atlanta and I had a text from friends and I went and found my next gate I went in the back of a restaurant and wept. I had to be myself. What's that I got on my plane and I sat down and I was sitting where in the aisle so people were walking past me and I'm like they're going to know who I am? I'm crying closed my eyes and just and I thought all to myself you know. Get it together and I know this was twenty years of being in this guy's galaxy when you heard yesterday for the very very first time if I may Your initial thoughts the first to reach out to you in the reactions from Your uh-huh encyclopedia and your Rolodex. Just take me to the first four to five minutes of it. I was actually in the air myself. I was flying. That was on my way here through Chicago so I I was about to land. Is Chicago fifteen twenty minutes before we land already getting phone calls. Serve the same person or people calling me several times. I'm GonNa what's going on and then I get a text that just says. OMG from a good friend. Orrin G and I'm like Aztecs back a question mark and they say Kobe died. And I'm thinking it can't be Kobe Brian. I know of no other Kobe but it can't be Colby Bryant right and then I'd take Kobe Bryant Question Mark and they say you know the helicopter not and and I mean I almost cried myself. I mean I was distraught and I couldn't believe it yeah. It was like a punch to the GUT A- and and even to this moment when I really think of the final that Kobe is not coming back I feel that same. I'm feeling in my gut and so then you know you start texting. People people around the League related to the League and everybody has the same same reaction. They're devastated. They can't believe it. Is it true and let me throw this. Chris if I may we were talking about this earlier is that as many great players as the NBA has had and I. I'm old enough that I remember watching the Lakers. Seventy two with Gail Goodrich Jerry. West and Wilsonville Sharman coached team. That's aging myself millennials. I'm kind of old There's been about seven to eight players. Who have really craft after the image of the League? I think Dr J. Lo'd out. I think it's a very short list. I think it's magic and bird. I I think it's Michael. I think it's shack. Koby Lebron and Steph because of the three point shot. I have a very small list of people that when I think of the NBA and it style and its coolness and it's related to young people Kobe's like one of eight to me. Am I shor your doctor. Jay Is the first person that made basketball to me. I would go out and mimic him. In the made it cool. He was the first guy. There was a guy before him named Spencer Haywood. I'm going way too far back. That had some of the same qualities but I think Kobe's in that class. No I agree because to this generation and he is there Michael. Yes now whether you not you think Lebron better whatever Kobe's the guy they look at because as we said the grace the beauty of his game and we can't. We can't belittle this. He won five rings like we. That's one reason we say Jordan's the Goethe's he won six. We may who knows when the next time. We'll see a guy five rings SEF Scott. Three Lebron is arguably I believe the greatest we've ever seen he's got three in sixteen full seasons durant has to. I don't know when we'll see a guy be the best player or the second best player on his team and win five championships so Kobe is associated with grace with toughness with killer killer instinct and with Winnie. You can't get a better combination in that and I'll say this Colin and I won't criticize the NBA. If they don't do it I think think they'll handle it the right way in my opinion the NBA should retire. Kobe's number eight and number twenty four across the league totally totally agree. They've never here's the reason. None of their icons. None of their superstars has ever passed away in the prime of his life Moses Malone and Wilt Chamberlain I believe are the only MVP winners who aren't still alive. And they were in their sixties when they pass away which which most would look at as they okay lived a full life for the most part. This is the first icon in the NBA. That was cut short so early. And I think it's appropriate for them to honor him by retiring his Jersey throughout the league and an immediate induction into the hall of fame the NHL. If I recall did that for Gretzky ski there several steps there were like. What's the point of waiting for the right bag media induction into the hall of fame for Kobe and retired? The number and I know this is a time when we're all very emotional national and there's a lot of suggestions boasts feel right and baseline right to me. Chris I appreciate this tough day for you. We're really glad glad you're here. Thank you very spruce. Art Joy with the news. This is the headline news so the NBA World is mourning. The loss awesome Kobe. Bryant's and there were. Several games played last night out of raw emotion during those games. Doc Rivers Face Kobe many times in his coaching career and got very emotional talking about him yesterday. Just so many people he touched And you know it's looking at my young players there's an emotional. They are Eight nome and it just tells you how far is reach was though In this news for all of us sorry. I don't have a lot to say just up to go talk to a team. There's a lot of of raw emotions. Yesterday you could see allows guys crying before the game during the game. This really is one of those rare moments in life. Where as you said you know? We're in a divided society where we all not only the agree on something but we are all feeling the same thing put since very rare. You know you mentioned Jane Whitney and you know I think there's a lien in Prince and you know we not only not only remember them passing but where you were like how you experience it asking. Chris how did you find out and I mean when when I our producer Sam told me about it and I I didn't even think it was real I thought. TMZ been hacked or just it didn't feel real. 'cause he's superman right. It makes you feel they get this. This is Kobe is not possible and it brings you to a mortal place very quick and there's also his young daughter right with him and I think Bat Out as I went on social media yesterday It was the Gut Punch and then it got worse it got exponentially worse as we were getting more details details and then we find out about obviously the seven other people that were on the plane and you know obviously condolences. Go out to their families as well as devastating impact so many people but off the biggest perspective on all that and when someone that this iconic nature passes is you want to focus on the memories that they it gave you and what what it was about that inspired you in the first place mentioned. Mamba mentality it's something that will live on through generation. I saw honey badger. Yesterday the Kansas City achieves went there and he said it was really cool. He's like man. We all gave a little more when we play and they're big reason for that was Kobe. I loved other. Sports are reaching and they're like oh no no no. I watched Kobe as a football player. Like I he that Mama mentality is not a basketball thing. It's a lifestyle it's a lifestyle and and and you saw that I think it's It's meaningful that. His film was called their basketball right. Because it's he was really an artist and a poet no it and like you mentioned arts music sports or the great unifier. It's something that travels through all of us matter what our political opinions are where we're from in the world what language we speak. We can all relate to the emotion and the you know the highs and lows of sports in our and he really affected that many people feeling that yesterday and today so as you mentioned there's obviously waves throughout the sports world the news of Kobe's death actually broke right before the pro bowl kicked off yesterday in the players found many different ways to honor him throughout the day. Russell Wilson led a prayer and Kobe's honor before the game the NFC defense celebrated with Kobe's fadeaway jumper on the fields Davante onto Adams pointed to the sky and put number twenty four after touchdown catch and there was also a moment of silence for Kobe. At the two minute warning in the first half or so in some video a Europe them honoring Kobe yesterday and then fans broke the moment of silence. Actually by channing. Kobe where they did during the game so the AFC actually beat the NFC seeing the pro bowl thirty eight to thirty three the AFC glaze Campbell and by the way AFC yes Campbell ANC MVP NFC MVP. Wisdom are the Mark Jackson. Russell Wilson actually his starting quarterback spot to Ju- breeze. We'll talk about later because he is talking about retirement and finally we are. We're here in South Beach in Miami for the Super Bowl chiefs of forty niners and Andy. Reid we'll get his second chance at a super bowl win this weekend and many feel like a ring is the one one thing missing from his legacies impressive coaching resume. He's not so worried about that. He said instead he's focusing on the work he puts every day he spoke to our friend. Peter King about the three three. Am Start to his day. which I can relate to having done before it's calm? It's dark and then go into the building and I study then when I leave. It's dark. It's Tom and I go home and sleep and rest and then come back and do it again. That to me is what's real. That's what I enjoy. Everyone's going to have their opinion on whether you can or cannot coach everything else. It is what it is on the mentality there. No I mean. Listen if it doesn't matter if you're watching and you're an actor or you're working on the crew here or anything leaving any life. The process wins. Nick Sabin talks about the process. That sometimes you see the stars. And they're glamorous but if you get down to the nuts yes and bolts of all people public or not you gotta put in. The work and Kobe did that was joy with news. Coming up next. It's interesting. Kobe Bryant. Brian was the thirteenth pick in the NBA draft. And Patrick Mahomes was only the tents hence pick in the NFL draft. Both one was already asked and one is about to be asked to be the face of the League before their twenty five years old and the two Patrick in Kobe have some things in common. 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Top of next hour lot of guests here today Jay Glazer Curt Menefee a Jim Jackson Jason. Who played with Kobe Bryant? Trent dilfer a Monday again. This is the heard on Fox. Sports Radio Kobe Bryant was drafted thirteenth. And that just seems crazy right but he did not play college so you had to guess at some point you knew he was gifted. I've told the story before Tim Legler Blur a former. NBA Player once told me that he walked into a gym in Philadelphia. He was a member of the sixers. And said WHO's that kid. I've never seen him in the NBA. They said he's about to be a junior in high school. It's Kobe Bean Bryant so you can spot talent but koby and mahomes are being asked very quickly to be the face of the League because of our love affair with Michael Jordan and Kobe's game which often Mir Michael there were elements. Let's see I can remember interviewing very early in his life. He sounded like MJ. When I started being broadcast or I would mimic Bob Costas or somebody that I had great reverence for and then as Kobe aged his game became more of his game? But the League ask Colby very early early to be an icon. Michael was leaving. There was nobody really ready to take it and for advertisers and the style and the League and its advertisers advertisers and its fans anointed Kobe as the next guy and he was voted an all-star before he started as a Laker Patrick mahomes and remember M. J.. It was an out of the League but the end was near Similarly Brady is not out of the League but the end is near and Patrick Mahomes will will now be asked commercially ads. He'll be offered a lot of things to be the face of the League and I think in in both instances their dad's having been athletes is a big bonus. They watched the life before they live the life. I think to ask a nineteen year old or a twenty year old to be the face of his team but of a league is a daunting experience. But Koby I thought had a unique view of that world before we got in and I think mahomes same thing because of his father. And there's a temperament I like about Patrick Mahomes. I said this I have watched the NBA tried to make a variety of players the face of the League and they have swung and missed several times. I said it's not Zion's game that will make him a perfect face of believe that's not what it is. I don't think he's a magic a Lebron or Kobe. I don't but he has the temperament he is relatable and he's likable and he loves the game and he has fun on and he's a little flashy but he serious when it comes down to basketball and I I think Kobe and Mahomes have. That mahomes is is innocent yet. Experienced fun yet. Serious ad libs a lot but can play within the structure of a highly complex complex system and not only have the fathers of Kobe and Patrick mahomes given them a view of the life. I think this is also important. Those when my father was a divorce he left the house. My coaches became surrogate. Fathers in my high school St Bridgman High School football coach. Jim Con Miazga Basketball football coach. I think it's very advantageous to Kobe. That he very quickly inherited Adele. Harris was a grown-up and Phil Jackson kind kind of stoic cerebral mature coaches similarly Patrick. mahomes inherits Andy Reid. A stable workaholic. All IQ highly cerebral sort of STOIC personality. So you need some breaks to go your way when you become the face of a franchise. We've said this before for if Tom Brady doesn't end up New England. There's a different book. He would certainly be great but I really think it was important for Kobe. Mahomes when when I look mahomes temperament it's right the personalities right. He's fun but serious ad libs but can do complex can be silly really but feels like a twenty four year old grownup and I think his dad deserves credit. And I think the Andy Reid Jack Del Harris says he deserves credit to are very very important. When we ask twenty-three-year-old people? Kobe was nineteen. Hey be the face of the League. Remember Tom Brady. When he was winning super bowls in New England? Initially it was Bella. Check in the defense and the kicker I mean it was sort of like yeah we were winning with Brady. But that's not what Mahomes Mahomes is front auden center. He's GonNa Carry Kansas City and coby was front and Center wasn't about the coaching. It was about the kid so we're going to watch these experiences and I thought by and large Kobe handle it very well. Anybody that would have a camera on them and wealth very early would have stumbled and had bad moments. He he did. Let's let's not hide those Kobe's life was imperfect and Patrick Mahomes. We'll have some missteps. This is going to be okay. We don't ask our kids to be in front of the camera at eighteen nineteen years old but I really like what I see mahomes. I Like the Stability and his coaching coaching staff. This ability and his family. He played some college football. He was a three star prospect. He was a grinder he did not go to a football power. Texas tech offered no other big school. How did if you qualify that as a big school? It's in the big twelve so I think the NFL's in really really good hands. It's very difficult for these teams Steph. Curry has has this component. His Dad lived a life before Steph live the life so the warriors can feel very comfortable handing the franchise the staff and then essentially at some point handing the lead to him. We ask a lot of our music stars in our Hollywood stars and our love our athletic stars and occasionally when you're really gifted you're asked carry an industry and the first thing I look at Zion is not his game name. It's his temperament. He is really built to be the face of the League. If you watch him he really handles himself with grace and class for a kid. I wasn't nearly that mature Zion's age and so I think the NFL's in really good hands. And I've said this before about the. NFL The best athlete now. Don't play quarterback and so used to be quarterbacks dropped back and then gave the ball to the great athletes and they did a lot of the spectacular things now the quarterback the best athlete. He does the spectacular things. And that's very attractive to advertisers in fantasy fans. We're going to have multiple mega stars in football over the next twenty years at the quarterback position. They'll make the place. They won't need the backs and receivers and what I will look at with Lamar Jackson and Patrick mahomes homes or a Sam Darnold. Is that temperament not the game. Can you handle it because it is a lot to ask. I've said this before. I was a late bloomer. Were life there is no way you could have given me a franchise like Kobe. Bryant nineteen I was simply not ready for it I would have been motionlessly motionlessly. Forget physically emotionally overwhelmed. Mahomes is a baby but it feels right to me that he's got it. He's smart he's got all the elements he's got a great support system at home and remarkable support system with Andy Reid Doug Gottlieb who had a really interesting relationship with Kobe Bryant. Doug actually one time worked out. Had A tryout with the Lakers in Hawaii played some International Basketball College Basketball Great. I know it was incredibly painful for him. He had recently spent some time with Koby will be bright. We'll talk about that. We have Trent dilfer. Jay Glazer Curt Menefee on a Monday in beautiful Miami Beach. Thank you so much for joining us. One hour down our two next. It's the one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. Search her listen live or on demand whenever you'd like This live in Miami is the heard wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We're on iheartradio Fox. Sports Radio and F S One. Joy Taylor is joining me today. On a bit more Somber Day because of the passing of Kobe Bryant his daughter daughter and several others helicopter crash yesterday difficult for everybody myself included and we all kind of grieving unprocessed differently. I do appreciate you stopping by today. And we'll try to add context to it in a couple of minutes. I'm going to bring Doug Gottlieb. who had a really interesting relationship with Kobe? Kobe had respect for Doug had played the game a great college basketball player. And I want to talk about this. I've been covering sports for a long time. I'm joy and I I covered. I felt I look back at. You don't really know. Sometimes when history is happening I cover the Portland Trail Blazer Shack Colby Hobie series to this day I would argue Portland would have won the finals. Portland was a deeper team. Portland was a more athletic team but it felt it's inevitable. It was shacking Kobe. And the Allieu now is lauren part of history. I was right behind the basket and I remember after that basket looking looking at the general manager of the Blazers Bob Whitsitt and he gave me this. Look like we knew it was coming. It was just a minute left in game seven. It felt inevitable this. This was a very unique dynasty. There was no robin. This was to Batman both average twenty eight a game in two thousand one the NBA ranked shack is the best player and Kobe number two and it depended on the night. I always understood. This was the band that was not gonNa last forever. There was a a lot of criticism when they broke up. There was a lot of finger pointing and blame. You cannot have a great all-time band and to all all time lead singers. It is not designed for ten years M J in the Bulls needed a break and Scotty always relinquish the ball bald in the spotlight to Mj. Look how long magic and Kareem lasted because Kareem didn't like the spotlight. Mikhail relinquish the ball and the spotlight to bird. Although bird himself never really wanted it these two Shaq and Kobe were not designed to last twenty years years. It is the most unique dynasty. Ever you had the immovable interior force and the best next fledgling superstar on the perimeter. Kobe Bryant he was the closest thing to this day. Who Ever played like magic? So there were a lot of criticisms about the Kobe. re-check break-up but sometimes you just realize there are marriages that are not built to last is the greatest single basketball series. I've ever covered it. Was Everybody was star Phil Jackson and Kobe and Shack Rasheed Wallace Staples was newer these were Rockstar rockstar events. It was tug of war with one of the best. Probably the best team. I ever cover daily the Portland Trailblazers. Who went nine deep with the two greatest players? Whoever covered regularly Shack Koby and with that I bring on the Doug Fox Sports Radio Doug Gottlieb who know Kobe very well living down in Newport California Doug is joining joining us? Let's go into a little shack in Kobe. You a point guard so you were a natural distributor if you would have been at twenty eight point point again score. That's just going to be harder for you. Were there times when you talk to Kobe. Bryant Doug that he shared with you that listen man. It wasn't an easy and look and he was the one that was always in shape. He was the one that spent off seasons working on his game whereas shack check could have been the greatest player in the history of the NBA. Because he was so remarkably athletic and had speed athleticism of his size but check wanted to be shack in the yeah. They both wanted to movies and rap videos. Whatever but Kobe was hoping the off season adding to his game or shack would play his way into shape? And so I I. Yeah I think I think. Kobe sometimes caught the brunt of the criticism. Look I think. He carried a lot of burdens. I think somebody brought himself obviously for his behavior some abroad on himself because he wanted to be the next Jordan. Sure I remember when he got into the League. He talked like Mike he walked like my empathy. Damn played like yeah so last week we were discussing rushing ally manning and he like Harry the burden of the manning name right standing on its own as had a hell of a career compared to payden pains. Lot better big brothers. Lot a better. It's Kinda the same with Jordan Kobe. Right Kobe's never gonNa match-up Jordan. Plus he always had to have shack right right and the similarity is neither of them. Could win until they got Phil Jackson's their head coach and Phil. What have to manipulate would have to manipulate shack and then kind of be honest with Kobe because Kobe was so sees off the charts? Smart like five languages you know I mean as much as we rave about Lebron and even shacking business. Kobe's the same thing right like you guys do the same sports drink. He made two hundred million dollars on it. I don't think you make two hundred million dollars on so he's not really remarkable story but you're right. It's not as easy as hey you guys you guys go figure it out. It took a lot of cajoling from Phil Jackson and some trial and error in order to make it work. You know it's interesting. Doug I thought about this. You know your personality you become your personality. So Kareem was more aloof. Didn't did a little bit of Hollywood. It was an aeroplane magic magic. Just jumped right in. I am bronze more comfortable. Koby chose. Kobe lived in Belair but Kobe chose to live in Orange County and Iowa's theorized is he wanted to keep Hollywood at arm's length so we could say no and then at his on his terms he would run in and embrace ace it but you know he he did choose to be a little bit separate. Yes yeah a little bit like he's in Newport coast that is not a hop skip and a jump from staples center or from Meltsa Gunda where they practice you know. And that's why he had the MOM. The chopper was was to avoid traffic whether it's going to practice or go into to staples yeah like he was a bit of a recluse. Bruce Yeah Look I think today and yesterday while it's incredibly sad you mentioned Newport beach you know my my daughter knew Jonah but Elissa All the girls Peyton those the three players that died on board as well as you know. There's parents that that left behind as well so it's an absolute tragedy but Newport beach is not you went outs not la but he was he was kind of a recluse and if you think about the transformation and how we look at Kobe now and how he was viewed for the most part when he played remember we used to have discussions. Can you get another star to go play with Kobe because Kobe is always going to be Kobe right. Like he ran off coaches neck when he got married buried. His own. Parents didn't show up. Yeah obviously he had Colorado he was going to get a divorce and they got back together and now they have to to younger beautiful chiltern turn as well. He went from a guy who held onto long heck. His last contract was the big reason the Lakers so bad right right and it's not his fault that you know Jim bus gave him that deal when he had a torn Achilles tendon but he could have said like hey. I'm making plenty of money. Let's go out and get some other dude. He didn't because that's Kobe that's right. He's the ultimate competitor. Doc Rivers said it. Yesterday I've never competed against anybody like him. And you know what Doug in life often our strength is our biggest weakness are become become his rigidity but I will say this chloe's embraced for though. Yes now hope the Mama mentality now. It's Jason Tatum. Like how can I get more of this information information and Kyrie Irving and and you know college players female women's College players women. WNBA players come and talk to him because because that indelible will self confidence self belief as well as the work ethic tobacco up. There's two parts to it and that that by the way jordan-esque as well right. He had he had the self confidence but he also had the remarkable work ethic. And I think that's now been embraced where it wasn't when he was playing. Yeah I mean we really watch. Kobe grow up. I think he became much more of a giver later in life. You know like I think a lot of us in our twenties and thirties. We can be takers. Were looking for whether it's self preservation or stardom and that as we grow up and we have kids and we look at legacies legacies. I feel much closer to the older Kobe. I can relate to the older Kobe the parent Kobe. The the Hollywood the Ostra Kobe. The Vulnerable Koby. The often often injured Kobe. I felt really it. He ended his career human being yes. He became a human being. I mean think about it. He quit on his team. I remember the playoffs. When you shoot the basketball quit on his team he said I want to be traded? Get Me Outta here right. Chicago wouldn't come up. Lou All Dang to trade for Brian when the all time I cannot believe. You didn't trade for Kobe Brian. Otherwise he would have been a bull. Almost a clipper right. He was gonNA take my ball and go home right and yet here. He is end of his career and and the moments that we remember our Kobe shooting two free throws with a torn Achilles tendon which by the way buried in that memory. That team made the playoffs because of one dude alone Kobe Bryant will them into the playoffs and then his body just gave out towards phillies ten. Then he takes year off that you're off. I believe changed him at the time. I'm our daughters. Were in school together and he was. He was a constant presence around the kids serving lunches. And that's when he started to develop further plans for what he wanted to. I I would say you know obviously lost his life yesterday but he got his second life during that you're off work towards Achilles Tendon and then he came back and he wasn't good it wasn't I remember last year. If you're talking about you should come back and play in the playoffs and the Brian and he was like listen. Dude I'm done. No he told you that I have nothing left right. I didn't quit because I wanted to quit because my body I had in order to get ready for the sixty point game in Africa I move for a week. I was done but he did score sixty sixty in a real. NBA Game in his last game. It's really funny. I look at I think Peyton manning it was a little choppy in Denver. But you know when he was benched but he's segue brilliantly he is now the funniest pitch man in the world. Derek jeter the MARLINS hasn't been perfect but he moved into a player's Tribune which just got purchased It's very difficult. Celebrity is almost always a choppy ending. And I remember reading quote about Kobe. Bryant I'm Doug Gottlieb joining me here for the radio audience in Kobe said listen. I'm a really intense guy. I gotTA figure out the next next thing to take this obsessive nature and place it on that because I can't go half in on everything and I thought to myself. Oh my God. That's that's tough. That's a tough ask. But he did it and he really. He's had had an elegant segue to retirement. You take the team Mamba. Which of course they lost three players Gesture including his daughter Estar Jonah. How did that happen? Well he was doing mob for his oldest daughter's volleyball player and Jonah wanted to basketball team so she put her friends they got blown out. Got Blown out internal by like forty points so he pulled him at any tournament and he said we're going to practice five days a week for four months he hired a coach started running triangle angle and they turn around. They beat team this year by like eighty five points without pressing they just drilled them. He Poured His passion coaching correct. And and he has this book series which is going to come out. He has movies that are going to come out like it's really it's really interesting on how somebody who is so hyper focused on being the greatest basketball player ever could then transition and hyper focus on other things. But that's exactly what he's done. Look it's a complicated legacy when somebody dies. Tragically and seven seven other people outside of his and his daughter lose their lives. Like all we can think of is the people that are left behind the memories that we have it's complicated. It's not all pretty when you look at Kobe Bryant but the fact act that the fact that at the end of the day we're talking about how remarkable apparent he was. Our remarkably was in business l.. Marketable bright he was should only only be a life lesson to all of us that it's a long book man right it. Everyone's just a chapter and until that book is closed unfortunately his foes yesterday there's still chapters to be written think about the different quitting on the team the Colorado the WanNa be traded. Nobody's GonNa talk about that today rightfully so because he put he put the heart on the I when he when he doubted audited at the end of the sentence Doug Godly Duggar Fox sports radio. I love watching this video. Sorry for the radio audience. But this is a Kobe's home gym playing with Jonah. She actually by the way he may have mimicked Jordan. She was mimicking him. She had a couple of moves. Yeah listen he lived in incredibly. You're you're like this joys. Well incredibly disciplined life like like He. He can't play basketball anymore but he was getting up at four in the morning every morning going equinoxes and working out he told the story couple stories. He told a story where like tiger when he was in town. Salad work out there. And he's like I'll never forget one day guys next to me. He's benchpress she's got headphones on and I'm working out next to him and all of a sudden tigers on the other side and the guy sits up and takes his go up and look just some random equinoxes right so but but look ego. was there sure I mean Gore. He he straight up told me I could take Jordan. Mike knows he doesn't want any part of this great and I was like stop. And he's like you don't understand fullscale psychological warfare as like. What are you going to say to Michael Jordan I? He's everyone's talk trash to Michael Jordan. It didn't work. He's like I research. What do you mean said? Look his dad. Michael always had kind of a complex. About Larry Larry was only six feet tall. He always felt like his dad gave more loved. Larry because Larry wasn't as skilled whatever talking about Larry Column Larry talked about Al Dad. Love Larry More. I was like you would not do that. Goes absolutely it. Goes like this the books to fill would give you. We're talking about full-scale psychological warfare and I absolutely bought into it. Yeah got great stuff great having you on the show today thank you so much good to be here and of course joys GonNa be our tour guide for this entire winter clothes for weather. No no club scene during the week we got we belong. We're disciplined. We are disciplined. By the way I do have a diet. Red Bull and Belus Brussel strapped. 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It's a lot of intensity and it's a lot of physical powers lot of mental power. I think that's why it's so draining anti until shift gears after every event like oh I just ran the hurdles now have to think about hydrogen. How do I get as high up in the air as I can after? I just tried to run as fast as I can giving that much. Intensity and such contrasting events can can be really difficult listened to the only way through available now on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast. Okay Super Bowl Sunday. Make sure you're watching before kickoff for a pregame show you will not want to Miss Demi Levato. Dj Calendar Adams. Dan Shea an pit bull. And that's all before kick-off don't miss the Fox Super Bowl pre-game show can't wait for that by the way I was just looking up some Kobe Bryant numbers we talked about the Mama mentality. People always consider Michael Jordan a great defender. Kobe is actually tied for first nine. Nine time first team all defense so when you talk about. It's the process. It's the work you think about this cool suave stylistic offensive player higher in the history of the sport. Nobody is made all team defense more than Kobe. Brian it's amazing. That is a mentality. Defense offense is fun. Defense is working. Yes there's a lot of great players who didn't do it on the other end Kobe's tied for the most ever ever joy with the news on the new. This is the headline news. So there's been an outpouring of love for Coby Brian over the last twenty four hours his former teammate. Shaquille O'Neal tweeted. There's no words to express the pain I'm going through with this tragedy of losing my niece. GD and my brother. Kobe Bryant I love you and you will be missed. My condolences go out to the Bryant family right now and the families the other passengers on board. I'm sick right now. Magic had a lot to say on Koby be one of the things he tweeted was. He gave his knowledge time and talent to tutor so many at the youth level collegiate level an MBA and WNBA players. Words can't express US impact that he had on game of basketball. I know basketball fans all over the world will miss and especially the city of Los Angeles. We'd love you forever. Number Eight number twenty four and Michael Jordan released the statement he said. I am in shock over the tragic news of Kobe. Jonah's passing words. Can't describe the pain. I'm feeling I loved Kobe. He was like a little brother to me. We used to talk often and I will miss those conversations member stations very much. He was a fierce competitor. One of the greats of the game and a creative force. Kobe was also an amazing dad. Who loved the deeply and so great pride in his daughter's love of the game of Basketball Ali vet joins me in sending my deepest condolences? Vanessa the Lakers organization and basketball fans around the world. There was I mean it really. The whole world is something to say about we. We have some sound from the grammys. Last night they did a very nice tribute to Alicia keys. Talks about being in the House that Kobe built. They were as we live in Los Angeles. Those were in Miami now obviously but I can't even imagine what people in Los Angeles are going through and if you saw the scene at staples last night with all the fans. You're bringing flowers hours and they had a tribute outside of a stable sue him. I mean obviously Kobe allots who fans people all over the world but the city of Los Angeles is is hurting extremely deeply right now I have you know I mean our hearts with them. Obviously we both lived there. Mount Music and sports connect with us. I mean when when you listen to music it often is during sad times and it takes you to a different plays. Sports does the same thing. There are so many markers and moments that Kobe. I mean there are. People that have been Lakers season ticket. Holders they raise their kids through Kobe. They took their sons and daughters to watch koby and their relationship built through Kobe. So you don't have to explain a lot of people yesterday and social media or I can't explain how I feel. You don't have to know because we all are all feeling the exact same thing actively together we're experiencing and trying to find a way to express how we feel because even if you had never met Kobe and you've never even seen gene. Kobe play experience as a as a basketball fan. Or even if you got to know him after basketball it's just certain people throughout history have the ability ability to affect millions of people without ever meeting them. They're just giving that gift of inspiration have that it factor. Whatever it is that you want to call it that allows them to transcend generations and political lines? Where you're from or your gender or anything and just affect you on a deeper level so everything? Everyone's going through. We're all going to the same thing we're experiencing get together and Kobe was a great a risk taker he. I remember the L. A. Times he came out off-season anymore. This white outfit remember the hats. Yes and people but what is this. That was Kobe style. That was Kobe. Saying you're going to look at this and you're not gonNa see me in this. I always appreciate that about Kobe. When public public figures pointed out there and Kobe? Did you know he just. He's he's all timer he's he is the reflection and and the reaction at the grammys last night. Kobe transcends sports yes. Isn't that gone. So the chiefs are obviously happy with their choice of Patrick mahomes and the two thousand seventeen draft. You were just talking about this comparing Patrick mahomes and Kobe and putting the League on their back well. GM Brett Beach says he was actually sold on mahomes after a huge sixty six ten loss really the Iowa state in two thousand sixteen beat set. New homes was his guy but he had a little trouble convincing mincing coach. Andy Reid he said at one point that December I remember coach calling me into his office in showing me a Mel Kiper Todd mcshay mark first round and he said Your Guy's not even in the first or something they didn't have Patrick in the first round and I just said coach it's perfect. Don't worry you don't want him on these lists now. It sets US up perfect. It's perfect for us. So he actually had was eighteen of thirty six thousand nine yards one touchdowns and two interceptions in that game but he left the game early with a shoulder injury and he returned and beat said he was about to leave the game and he saw a homes warming up. And he's you know we're talking a lot about Mamba mentality today. You're respected did his resilience and that's what convinced him to take mums. By the way they just had a senior bowl in Mobile Alabama and Justin Herbert Place for Oregon and I had a general manager manager a month ago and he said I have a feeling the secret unjust in Herbert's GonNa come out at the senior bowl. Is that you watch some of these young players in football look ball joy. Sometimes you can hide talent half the League as undrafted right in basketball great players usually pop at about sixteen but the stories are mahomes the. NFL is filled full of those. Where you're trying to hide this kid down in the rural south or Texas that you know is great mahomes story is remember remember they? They traded up because they were petrified. Somebody was going to draft the classic. NFL Diamond in the rough drafted arguably the greatest quarterback quarterback of all time went in the sixth round. So there's plenty of examples of it. Thank you for that transition call. In Oregon quarterback Justin. Her helped the draft stock at the senior bowl this weekend. He was named both the practice player of the week for the South team. And the MVP of the game on Saturday look good. He led this out to an early early seven. Nothing lead completed. His first seven passes team ended up losing thirty four seventeen but he finished nine for twelve. Eighty three yards and a touchdown also ran for twenty two yards. It's starting some video of it now. The bengals Coaching Staff is actually coaching them. Yes well I don't think that that's going to sway them either. Way On on Joe Burrow He. He looked really good. He was also praised a lot for his leadership by teammates during the week. And Yeah so that's I mean that's part of the reason. Why if you're a the prospect like Justin? Herbert you WanNa play in the senior bowl get more tape out there. People are on the fence about where you know where you should go. Or if you're capable go out there and give a great performance and by the way the senior senior bowl is coached by NFL staff. So Cincinnati may not take him but there's a lot of friends around the League who know scouts for Cincinnati and they're saying in this is the NFL's a big family just in. Herbert did himself made himself a lot of money at the Rose Bowl and a lot of money at the senior choice joy with news. Well that's the news for stopping by heard line news. Do my favorite guys Fox. NFL Jay Glazer Curt Menefee brought to you. By Mercedes Eighties Benz come on up guys the best or nothing Jay Glazer and curt Menefee by the way. I've got to ask you about this guy's so curtain. Did you write this book is. Is this your book. Or is it Glazer's which one the Great Brady Heist. No no no. It's not a book. It's a show that we mentoring. It's a documentary on Fox before actually we. He came and broke most of the show. Hey count gets into research. Russia here was on your show. We who so by the way I want to watch this. So so it's this is when Tom Brady's Jersey you broke the story was stolen on your show. Thank you so you guys did a documentary on it and that it airs before a pre game shows. Actually it. Does I think we'll that's for four hosting this is your Oh. I'm just a Saturday Saturday at seven eastern. It's called the great. Thank you Sam the Great Brady Heist. How about you know? By the way remember is a wild day because right before we went on your show to broke different pieces of the news throughout you had video right and we had a couple of different videos. We add throughout the couple of days. But I remember when we originally I got the found. The person's name I I was up there with Eric shanks our boss in his office and we got the guy's name and right off the bat. I was like wait. Let's make sure this guy has nothing to do with the cartel because if he does not get as Jersey back sexy we got kids. Shall we immediately call some are. MVP veteran guys who were who were pretty high up during the intelligence field. I guess you should say just making sure because a reminder Jersey back it was after the Super Bowl in against against the Falcons in Houston and after the game his Jersey that was game worn disappeared. Zandi said a reporter had come in and caught him on camera and the J. broke down but a lot of people there. We're like what are you talking about. That's what had happened. After the Super Bowl. Comeback against the Falcons. Yeah this this guy who's an international reporter had been around for years and years and years stole. Brady's Jersey spoke to different superbowls it. Von Miller is home and actually I have on my phone through the FBI. All these pictures of stuff that was in the guy's house there's like Walter Payton Jerseys. There's medicos old Montana Jersey only different thing. But they only took von Miller helmet back and Brady's to jerseys and they left the rest of it. I don't know what the public doesn't trust the media a knife like people who are stealing Tom. Brady's Jersey Jay Glazer joining us so I'll start. It was some news yesterday. I did not watch the pro bowl because of the tragedy with Kobe Bryant. I was told by joy this morning about drew brees in retirement. Kurt Kurt put your hat on for a second. What is the story on that? Well I think it is as close to drew in Sean. Payton those guys down in New Orleans. It's anyone so I'll let him take it but I mean I don't know them. You really basically trying to decide whether or not he comes back for another year. His contract is up so if they come if he comes back I think he's been publican saying he's coming back to New Orleans or he's going to retire he's not gonna go and bounce around and do that kind of thing and I think people are wondering he's turned forty one years old this year. I think those five weeks off certainly benefited him but nothing. Nothing lasts forever so I think that this is a crossword for him as he tries to decide. Can I get in this for another couple of years while the saints will have a chance or is it time for me to go out you you know on top of it interesting so eli very nice tidy ending. I don't think there's a huge market for Philip rivers. I have suggested Tom should retire. He won't and now drew brees. The League is changing at quarterback it is becoming a very dynamic position you I think drew brees Tom and him both be feel emotionally emotionally. We one more year we can win a ring today. If I ask you about. Drew Brees Jay. Do you think he comes back. So drew's in a different position than anybody else. Giants have moved on Chameli. The charges moved on. Philip rivers. Brady has a choice. Where he's GONNA WANNA go breeze it saints or nobody and Sean Payton Jordan said yes he wants back Akis back like it's not a question is is just a question of what drew wants to do They do have their quarterback of the future on the roster to that quarterback he'll be taste mill chase him they believe is a franchise quarterback and especially you what Lamar Jackson has been able to do. So they think they have their but sean has been very very clear if drew wants it like we want drew drew. We still want you as long as drew wants to go so this isn't a situation like the other guys that were there kind of pushing them out the door. They're they're welcoming him with open arms. If he wants. I come back. Yeah there are very few quarterbacks in my life. I've said this before I always felt this. Russell Wilson feels. My sister doesn't love football. Fell in love with that because of Russell Wilson he is Seattle drew brees. Maybe more than any quarterback in my life feels like city which is ironic. Because he didn't start their savings. Yeah and they say that that city that franchise yes people forget when Hurricane Katrina happened it was all they were moving to San Antonio Tonio there there was no revival. There is no coming back. He came there instead of going to Miami. Obviously people have heard the story that the doctors in Miami says shoulders not good enough. He wound up. Not playing. There goes to New Orleans. The rest is history but he committed himself and his family did and became a part of rebuilding New Orleans. Not just from a football standpoint but from a city standpoint in that town that city I believe will forever be indebted to him no matter what he doesn't future at him and Steve Gleason is credible. What they did? And that was one of the selling points that Sean have for. Drouin drew one on his recruiting. visit if you will Sean knew how charitable drew so. They went and drove around to areas in need and Dan. He thought that he knew to be able to sell. It was the human factor the blessing factor that they thought droubi would would really kind of touch him to go to New Orleans and by the way. I want to also if I may segue into Tom Brady. There are a lot of reports and there's a lot of different. NFL Reporters Jay a great admiration for you. You are not in the volume business. You're in the accuracy business. I M right save for you kirk the the Tom I do believe though and I'm in the speculation business often because news breaks. I think Tom Story feels feels fluid to me. I have moved cross country four times and it made a decision in the very last day. I feel like with Tom. He has not made up his mind and yet. And there's a wife to consider and is it fluid because it feels fluid to me j absolutely people keep wanting an answer now free agency agency still a month and a half away a lot happens between now and then there's your look when Peyton manning went on his free agency tour. There's a lot of people thought he's going to go down to Tennessee. Because that's where I obviously tied in over there and there's so many different things that happened when he went down there. They gave Payton a playbook. They said Hey. Here's going to be our playbook we need you to learn it. When the broncos brought him in they said it was John Fox said we know? You're gonNA throw everything in Rehab. You decide the playbook it's your playbook so don't worry about that and that really Lee swayed him and go on a denver. You don't know what's going to happen between now and any of these visits and what happens behind the scenes you know. People are trying to speculate where he's going to go and there there is. He's not gonNA fit in everywhere because this is gonna be a lot of systems. He's not going to want to be part of it. Doesn't want to start off with a team. It's not not going anywhere rebuilding. He needs a winner. They're very few places that are winners right now. And I also think that I'm GonNa Situation also where if I've got control for the first time I'm GonNa wait the hatreds do you know. Maybe the Patriots go out and do something different than they've done in the past and they signed a free agent. They need some help office. Yeah if they signed the right pieces and and say hey. Can you come back for one more run. Then it's a much better situation to stay there than to go to. The chargers are some well trying to chase it. But if they don't do that then the door I think is open I. I do think it's fluid from that standpoint. Because he doesn't know what the offers are going to be. He doesn't know what the Patriots are going to do it. So there's a lot of moving pieces that I think people want answers to in January we. We probably won't have until March and he for decades is given. The Patriots are hometown discount. You know I don't know how much that's going to play a part in here because he's not gonNa have to but if I'm the chargers to just bizarre model ago here's a check and then all the comments you want to let us know I. I don't see if it's up to Robert Kraft money being the difference. I think if he comes back and says I want to come back. But here's the number. I cannot imagine now Valentine's different in story but I can't imagine craft moving on based off of money but I think there's so many other factors other than money is gonNA come down to buy the ad be remiss if I did not ask her. You are a California native Los Angeles. Jay Glazer Yourself. You have those remarkable performance centers you deal with athletes in training One of the things we discussed with Kobe Bryant today was his devotion and his passion and his work ethic. There are countless stories of people coming to the gym at six. AM and Kobe's leaving after a two hour workout. Whether it's Kobe or not you athletes you push athletes to the discomfort level. Constantly their breaking point I read so many stories last night night about Kobe literally out working the hardest guy in the gym and you see that from pro athletes regularly greatness is what you do when no one's watching and that's what Kobe did you know I would always tell these athletes they find out who the best and do more than that. It's pretty easy and you think it is. Do you think it's simple. Most of them aren't willing to do it. But but the bring up drew brees the time we walked in and on him on the Saints Facility at ten forty five at night. WHO's yelling one there and I looked at what are you doing? He's sometimes. I'm trying to be great as lonely and great line on. I told him I said I'm so stealing from Utah. But that's what makes Kobe different different. The drew brees is different but Kobe really took it to a different level. That's why so many there's so much respect when you have other athletes were and other great athletes who are going talk to you for advice for anything. What books do you read? What do you eat what do you do for sleep? That's when you know you're the best of the best and your you transcend everything incur absolute pleasure to see abol you guys to S- Under these circumstances we ought to end but it's a moment that everybody all around the country. They felt emotional now when they heard the news yesterday. And we kind of live in a world where we are in touch with celebrities. We feel we know them who they are who they are as people and especially after Kobe retired we felt. We got to know him even better than we did. I did when he was a player so I think it hit people. Maybe a little bit harder than we might have expected when you go. Its professed fest. Lathi bub-bubba because he did transcend all of sports. It's almost like you know you guys were talking about earlier. Maybe like a Michael Jackson. Someone where you didn't have to be a basketball fan to know Kobe. Bryant and the field attached to them and I think that's the reason because of the emotional attachment so many people had that it hit them hard yesterday. And you know it's been a Paul everywhere. We've been today whether whether it's here in South Beach in the hotel you out on the streets. There seems to be a mood. That's darkin over the entire country over the death of Kobe Bryant because people felt I don't know I go back to not get too deep. You know it's a poor my e Housman on an athlete dying young that I always go back to whenever you get to these moments and it's about how. Oh we see athletes as the enemy of youth and vibrancy and vitality and when they die when they're young it takes a piece of all of us away because there's that hope and there's that magic that we know is all gone but if you're an athlete at a certain level that legacy will always live on and it will carry on in the people that you touched touched people U- affected and I go back to that whenever I get moments like this because I think it's important to remember just because the body isn't here the spirit can still live on and and the impact that you can have on people not just Notley as an individual can still live on after. You're gone if you do the right things while you hear curt menefee very well. Also Jay Glazer. Thank you both fantasy. Both those welcome back in Miami is third. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific definitely winner. The thing about winter it's cold outside. GET COZY INSIDE CASPER DOT com code cozy ten percent off any purchase with a mattress. Today WANNA think everybody Chris Broussard. Doug Gottlieb Jay Glazer Curt Menefee. Jim Jackson joining us last hour played with Kobe. Treadmill for as well as great to have you in we were talking today I when I was a kid growing up my idols were not always sports figures Johnny Carson I watched Johnny Carson as a kid and I very early we watched. My sister was six years older than me so we didn't hang out together as I go into high school. She's out of high school so there were a lot of times when I'm watching TV. And that's how I got into radio. It was my companion. Johnny Carson was somebody. I watched that one of the things I always loved about. Johnny Carson was that his last show was one of his best shows. And when you age you don't have the ability or perhaps the stamina or energy to be great every night but for the late Johnny Carson to come into his last show and I remember watching how emotional and he brought on his favorite people and I talk. What a great way to close it for Kobe? Bryant Discourse Sixty points in his final game many athletes it ends very sloppy. Loppy you see Michael Jordan and a wizard jersey or Johnny Unionist Joe Namath. And here's Kobe against the Utah Jazz team. That was playing for or something score sixty in his final game. I can remember. My daughter is not a big sports fan and she like. Can we get tickets to that. And I'm like honey. That's the one game. It's GonNa be hard to get tickets right. It's really a remarkable achievement. I've said this about Lebron. His durability for Lebron has to be chapter two after chapter one is greatness. Koby really understand he had Johnny Carson Ability Eighty. He understood the moment you know Koby years ago. The Eastern Conference had lots of bad centers and you had shack so colby was very necessary. There were good centers in the West are vitas bonus so Kobe could play one one way against the West but when they got into the finals Phil Jackson had to ask Kobe. Listen I don't need forty from tonight. They don't have the bodies to defend shack so Kobe many times had to wrestle with this knowing that when the Lakers and shack played eastern teams feed it to shack. He'll get everybody in foul trouble and Kobe step back. It was against often those western rivals that had better senators that Kobe had to carry them. Shack would get in foul trouble shack. You couldn't wouldn't trust. He hit a free throw late so when when they're Derek jeter's greatness is amplified by the Yankees and who was around him but that adds a burden to Derrick jeeter. He came up in big spots in playoff games with runners on. Yes Derek jeter with the Yankees is greater than Derek jeter with the aides right and that payroll but there is a burden being with the Yankees and the expectations are high. You can say. We'll Kobe had shack and there's a burden burden with shack is that you were now expected to win. And the pressure was immense. This was a very rare combo deal. There were no robbins. It was Batman and Batman. They both average twenty eight game. Shack was considered number one and Kobe and the Lakers had a very difficult choice. They could not afford Ford. Both it was a gut wrenching decision and they chose Kobe because they felt Kobe was early to work late to leave body. You wouldn't at that point breakdown. It was a tough choice because shack was so wildly dominant and so incredibly popular. That and it was tough because you know shack went to Miami where he was going to win. Immediately and the Lakers knew it so I guess the message with Kobe is he was really a performer. who always knew when the pullback when to push and he kind of knew in the big moments but it was not always easy for him there was the PO- shack check Priya Saul. I remember Reading The Los Angeles Times and it was the letters to the editor of people. Were he's a ball hog. He shoots too much and I didn't Kobe learned from some missteps was shack. He had a much better. Start to the Ghazal. Relationship always felt POW his maturity a charity he was he was an older matured. Kobe and So there's just so much to his life so many angles on it. So many markers in moment okay. Our threes coming up. We're in Miami to down one to go beautiful sights and sounds of Miami beach. One more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. 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Xm Channel Eighty three UPS special. Thanks to our production staff and the people of Miami. I've I've been to multiple super bowls here. Joy Taylor's joining me. Nobody treats a better than Miami. It's a it's a melting pot of interesting personalities and people Seventy five five degree weather. No Super Bowl site. I'd rather be at in Los Angeles and Joy Taylor spent some time here in Los Angeles so that you have many special friends here. Yeah yeah well. I went to college here in Miami. I went to Barry University which is about fifteen twenty minutes up the ninety five and yeah I mean obviously my brother other played here for thirteen years of his fifteen year career Sullivan brother. Big Part of my on my life Miami is. I'm happy that we're here and I'm glad the Miami shooting. Well we have beautiful weather perfect. Oh just everything a beautiful here and I wanNA start the show. Obviously we are here for for the Super Bowl and I think the city of Miami for hosting us in the city of Los Angeles is dealing with something very difficult today and so we start our third hour talking about the passing of Kobe Bryant. I think I read everything you re last night. Got Into my hotel room and like a lot of US struggle to get my feet beneath me and I watched all the videos. There's a video out there of Michael Jordan and Kobe. There are games often mirrored each other. That is unbelievable. It is mesmerizing. But I want you to think of this. When Kobe Bryant retire retire this is it just blows me away when Kobe Bryant retired he had been an NBA player longer twenty years then he had not been an NBA player in his life? Seventeen so Kobe of course grew up right in front of our eyes and when people grow grow up in front of our eyes we see all of it right. It's an imperfect life to give you some framing on how much of Kobe's life elude lived in front of our eyes. Nobody asks most eighteen year old. Nineteen year old to grow up with a camera. There were two different versions of Kobe and fill two different versions. There was the shack dynasty then. Kobe shot too much. And then there was the Pao Ghazal Dynasty. There was the eighty one points o. m. g. and then the sixty points in the final an old game w. t. h.. There was the number eight Kobe. There was the number twenty four Koby. There was the staples Kobe. There was the forum Kobe. There was the sort of skinny Kobe. They were more buff Kobe. The Afro the ball. The Mamba Byron Scott was his team mate and then Byron Scott was his coach and Jerry Buss was his boss and then Jim bus was his boss and the genie bus with his boss. Those are the versions of Kobe. And we watched all of it from nineteen years. Ought nobody else asked Abba camera in front of them. Imperfect flawed Lod and vulnerable. And I'll get vulnerable in a second but I think one of the things. I always appreciated about Kobe. And he learned this after a while. When Kobi broke into the League he was aloof? He couldn't go to the bars or the nightclubs and our stories that he didn't connect with teammates. People may hey forget. The shack and Kobe version. People really wanted shack to stay. If you had to choose but Koby learned from that you'll is evolved. You made mistakes wchs but colby then started giving more of himself. The last ten to fifteen years. He gave a lot of himself. He went from teenager to teammate. Too hard coach to a pleasure to coach to a doting father and the more Kobe gave of of himself. The deeper I felt the connection was it is hard to leave it out there when you're a public figure and Kobe did a lot and you saw all of it and there were times you loved him and there were times you didn't and there were times you scream forum but in a world we live in today which is to I mean. I'll say it's divided that says diplomatic is I can currently say America is divided. There are years ago. Somebody asked me if I wanted to host a political show. I said it was so toxic. This was ten years ago so angry. I said I'd rather be part of something that unites us and music and sports do it. And it's hard to explain the loss of Whitney Houston Ore Michael Jackson or Kobe Bryant. You don't you can't really explain what they mean when they leave us too soon zone right. You're heartbroken you're shaking you cry. You'll weep you're sick. Don't try to explain it to people because music and sports are really different. I have gone on the concerts. More than a dozen times of my life and sat or stood next to a total stranger. And I'm dancing and I'm singing and you don't WanNa hear it and I've gone to sporting events and sat similarly next to a total stranger and I'm high fiving and a yelling and I'm emoting and a complete and utter rack and only sports and music does there. The great unifier and Kobe Bryant gave us for twenty years. All these memories and marks in our life you don't have to you're shaking. I was I am get in terms of Kobe's game Kobe to me of the forty years I've watched. NBA NBA. Basketball is great artist. The canvas was empty each possession. He was a painter. He was more fluid than Jordan. Let's physically overpowering them the Braun but he was the artist so it was not a coincidence when he left basketball he won an Oscar in Hollywood. Would that to Kobe at the end was but there was something incredibly relatable to Kobe Bryant. And it's not this way with all stars I may love my favorite band Rockstar hip hop star musician but I don't always feel like relate and sometimes the NBA feels like genetically. I mean I've seen guys in college that looked like Julian Edelman or Mike Trout but NBA guys are six six and six seven six eight making jump and they can. You may never ever ever be in a court or field or a diamond with anybody that plays blaze and has the athletic ability of an NBA player DNA wise. They're different than US right but koby in the end was very relatable symbol. There's fifty guys in the NBA. Now that are just as athletic as Kobe. But what really connected to me was Mamba Mamba Mental first of all. Nobody's allowed to give themselves a nickname and it sticks Kobe. Didn't it stuck. That was Koby Force of nature. But what mom and Talapity was telling was that even though he was a Laker and even though it was a celebrity and even had a net worth over three hundred million dollars. The Mama mentality was telling you it's about the work work. Lebron James told the story yesterday is that when I first met. Kobe was fifteen. There's video you media. People can go find it. And we SAT Donna. Jim and we all looked up to cope and Kobe just gotten out of the NBA and he had a game that night in Philadelphia but earlier in the day there was some tournament and Kobe came and talked to Lebron. He didn't know who Lebron was. Nobody at fourteen. Fifteen did and Kobe said if you want to be here it's about the work and when guys give themselves selves nicknames. It's often about themselves but really it was about what Kobe gave us. These markers and these moments and the work it hurts it should no reasonable explain and with that Trent dilfer around the corner. Thank you for letting us in your home today and on your radio soon be short. A catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern and Pacific on Fox sports radio F s one and the iheartradio APP capturing her heart. 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And I believe you're a Laker fan so for you yesterday I think I don't like to speak for others. I think we were all sick. Unshaken shook I mean it literally shocked me. I feel so awful obviously for all the people that Kobe influence in a positive way and I think the narratives last tonight. The story told him this morning of a fantastic talking about his legacy and more than just a basketball player but as a father the ones he left behind and that's where I heard so bad for him. Because I'm one of those we lost a son and he was five and we've dealt with loss and we know what that left behind feeling like and I feel so bad for the family family and It's just a tough time but I do appreciate how you opened the show. I appreciate some other friends in the media. How delicately they've handled no this last night and today and he was a great player but a great man? I was just at a volleyball tournament last spring. He was out you know he did the volleyball circuit to just I guided for thirteen. Thirteen years is a dad so invested as a parent. I love what Doug said about that year off from basketball where he regained his life as a parent. I thought that was so beautifully said by Doug and says a lot of layers to it and I think it's hard for a lot of people but it's not as hard for us. Obviously for his beautiful family weavers left behind. Yeah I was saying this in terms of icons Trent. We usually don't ask our icons to be icons before they're ready ready. Kobe was voted into an all star game. And didn't start for the Lakers and I can't think of another icon where we said you're going to be a face of the League league and he's not a starter but I think his dad had played the game so he saw the light before relived it. He also had very mature leadership. Del Harris is a real grownup in the Phil Jackson. Segue into Patrick Mahomes. His Dad was an athlete. He saw the life before he lived in. And I do look at Patrick and he is going to be asked asked to be the face of the leak very young and I want you to tell my audience I covered the buccaneers. When you were simply asked to be the face of of a losing franchise and how difficult is it? You were twenty three and how difficult for Kobe and Mahomes. They were asked to be the face of the lead. I think it's overwhelming. I think breaks many of us. I broke me early in my career. I wasn't ready for it And I had great parents earns and great mentors in my life and I still wasn't ready for emotionally. I do think there's a level of sophistication that Patrick has. Because of his his pedigree Kobe the same way That there are certain ones that just growing up. Were nothing's too big And so they can take on huge things. And being the face of a franchise in Patrick's gaze going to be. The face of the League is a huge deal. But I think because that's Fisa Gatien he had growing up he saw it at the highest levels levels US always exposed to it even the seventeen year old when you saw him at these camps and stuff. He's carried himself differently. And you're talking about Maho did you. Now you work with this stuff you saw on at seventeen. We thought it was going to baseball. I say this all the time swift we ever made in her absurd but we we were all convinced he was going to be a baseball player is is it. Because he was a freak I mean he was he was going to be a first round pick and baseball. Why would you turn that down? Then goes Texas tech to play football and it was kind of a head scratcher but you know. Obviously he made the right decision. He's killing it in football but most of us just carried himself You can see you walk into a room and there's guys that you know you can feel fielder energy. You can feel their presence. He's always been one of those guys and and I think that's why he's ready for something like this. And that's his great balance on the football field he's edgy. We need topping these fiery also loose and carefree and has fun and nothing seemed happy to him whereas remembers a young player sometimes just got heavy. It wasn't fun on any more. US Yeah you see. I've seen it narrowed rogers late in his career where it just gets heavy. I've seen it to a lot of great players. It's never heavy to Patrick Mahomes. It's still fun. It's still free but yet there's that Ed Razor's edge of of intensity as well now Jimmy Garoppolo is a different story. He comes into the League. Plays plays behind. A legend doesn't have to take many snaps. It's interesting mahomes and Jimmy Garoppolo. I in terms of ages are very close. Oh so we see Garoppolo feels so much older to us right Fi. You know Jimmy at all or people close to. What are you expect going into a game? I want you to take me from your career so Jimmy goes into a game facing this iconic kid. I would believe if I'm Jimmy with my running game and that sort of narrative I go in very loose to a game. Hey I'm the second best quarterback on television today. Do you few cents. Do you sense part of that. was that guy in every game Jimmy Johnson advantage in this game guys. PhD and winning with the Patriots. Let's and I think there's something to be said for that that. He sat there and watched Tom and his approach to winning more than any player in the history of football and got his PhD Indian that just by observation and was able to sit there and realize that the the game was one within the preparation. And I think that's where Jimmy will go into this. He understands his team has is better. They're more complete than than can see chief. Seen He's not trying to be a superhero. He's not GonNa try to be the MVP he's GonNa go try to do the same things he's done every game that's led them to a bunch two wins and I think that's the advance of forty niners have here. Is there a better football team. I don't think many people would doubt that they're playing against night conic player. Yeah and a the fastest man the NFL and really good tight end but outside of that. They're just they're an average football team. That has superstar power where the forty niners are a great foodball team. And I think Jimmy G. understands that is going to this thing in play that way and there's a freedom in that there's a freedom much like I had playing with the greatest defense in the history of football ball yourself there and you're just playing to win the game the same way when your last game. There's no bigger than any other game. Does you know you can lean on something so special. Let's talk about your Raven Super Super Bowl so I can remember a couple of huge throws you made in that game. But they didn't ask a ton of you similarly to Jimmy G. That said there's also also though the burden of Hey dilfer don't this up. Yeah so Jimmy. G. There's the burden we know Kyle Shanahan. It would love love him to throw twelve times. Did you feel going into that with the better roster in Baltimore though you wouldn't be asked to throw twenty eight times. Did you feel a little pressure to deliver on a historic defense. The press you feel is to not take chances and it's counter intuitive exhibits quarterback you grow up as the dude. The vase has always been your hands or aggressive by nature. You WanNa be a playmaker and then the hard thing about being a game manager is now all of a sudden. You your counterintuitive. The way you were brought up playing in the game and sometimes you make mistakes because you're trying to make mistakes. I don't WanNa make comparison between myself and Jimmy in this game though and I and I'll push back on one thing calling i. I don't think Holly wants to throw it twelve times. I think how wants to throw at thirty five times. I think Cowan put up a fifty spot in this game. They're going to have their way with the chiefs. Defense defense the chiefs either have to play the run or if they played the past. They're not good enough to play both in their same setup structures and Kyle's awesome master in these types of games calling games when okay. You're adjusting too much outside zone to the field. Great we have naked boot to the boundary with a three layer concept. And we're going to be able break contain contain and to build a drop back. Throw the quick game going. I think housing to come out really really aggressive with the past in this game and I think Jimmy has a chance if he just does his job. Well Kyle will set the table for him to have one of those great quarterback moments and by doing that more place more first downs. It's more possession. More runs at the end of the game so it may end up being a fifty fifty pass run game but I'll be shocked if they don't come out throwing the ball by the way. Did you enjoy super bowl week. I did IT'S A. It's a lonely week to handle it right because you you really have to separate yourself from the noise and this. It was twenty years ago. I had hair back. That was a bad kind of fake clooney thing. I had going on his transitional period of A- As twenty years ago now with all the noise of all the social media with all the awareness with all the media outlets. You really have to distance yourself from it a lot of guys take the. TV's out of the rooms. I did that. We stayed in the hotel. I've heard stories the same thing. Where you just kind of isolate yourself and hang out with your tribe because if you get out there and you start hearing it too much you start believing the hype? It can really take away from your mouth. Took your television Out Room took television out. Didn't watch a single thing then now they're also sustain horrible things about me motor my best friend. Steve Young said I sit back quarterbacking twenty years so this one of my best friends. I was trying to protect. My Egos Egos bit but I it's it's it's a valuable tool the more stuff you put in the more inputs. That aren't focused on how you're going to win this game the more weird narratives your hair in the more opinions. You're hearing it only can take away from what you're supposed to do on super bowl Sunday so I think it's a really good exercise for for players to do to eliminate themselves from social media from the TV from basically the noise of this week Winston Churchill said it's too bad. We waste youth on the young as has Kobe Bryant. I talked about this earlier. How he really became he went from a kind of aloof teenager? To a doting father. And I've known you for a long time. What's interesting about the Super Bowl? We have so many interesting. We have the young star Mahomes and Richard Sherman on the other end. There's a lot of a lot of good young players but for the older players. Your Ravens team had a handful of these not a lot of years left left. I I think that Richard Sherman influence in that locker room is a real thing. Heck yeah priceless. I think the two most things about this game or or what you just mentioned. Richard Sherman's influence in that locker room his narrative to his team the edge. He will keep the edge. He will create for that team. Because that's what would you want this week. You want that sharp edge. It's so easy to lose it to start pouring perfume on yourself to hearing all the good stuff and forgetting how you got there. Saving Richard will be the Team spokesman for that the moral authority of the locker room with Calm Ronnie Lott of the great niners. Which helped me segue into this? I think the second most interesting thing in this game is go back to the forty niners. Great teams played the Miami Dolphins and the Denver broncos in those super bowls. They were talking about Marino away. Just like we're talking about mahomes. Those were teams. Marino's dolphins elway's broncos at the forty niners smashed in those super bowls that our quarterback centric teams only. They didn't have the full depth of football team. They weren't whole they were carried by one player or a assortment assortment of superstar power. I think that's the chiefs I like the chiefs. I wanted to be a great super bowl but I'm looking at this thing on tape. And the forty niners. Excuse me this this could be like those. Forty niners wins and super bowls against the dolphins against the broncos work. It's out of hand early and it's really not even a game. Finally I did not watch the pro bowl all yesterday and it sounded like there were several storylines. One of them drew brees in retirement. He was really good so I think you should it play. I'm a believer. If you love something you're good at it keep doing. It is that over-simplistic. I don't know what we're talking about it honestly. I asked the producer behind the scenes. When he said we're GonNa talk about Jerusalem is going on drew brees? He might return. You're not gonNA retire. He's one of the best in the game. Still sure there's limitations as you get older absolutely but that's what you have great players around so great coaches around him. I'd still put them in the top. Five guys with two minutes left no football game gotta go in the game. So why would you leave the high your career. He's a great husband. He's a great father. East found a way to balance the whole thing. A lot of guys lose balanced. He drew never has He's super involved as communities. He's I mean he's counting the ultimate dude. I think a lot of NFL players say that he's kind of the best guy in the NFL Both as a player as a person. Why would you stop being that? Yeah Great Senior Man. All right thanks for having me. Trent dilfer by the way this Valentine's Day ditch the chocolate and roses give gift comfort. Tommy John Dot Com code owed her twenty percent off. Your first order and here is joy with the news. No turn on the news. This is the third line news. Well sticking with Jew breeze. He hasn't made a decision on his future yet. He is a free agent this year. And it's going to take some time to decide what he wants to do. I'm kind of just taking it moment at a time How would you like to take a little time? At the end of each season to reflect a little bit and also decompress and just kind of gather my family close and spend quality time with them and then once maybe mid February in the February rolls around. And we'll we'll make that final decision. It's kind of interesting the thought of retiring not even cross my mind until this at pro bowl practice last week he said at this stage of my career is not a given that. I'm coming back every year. When that time comes I'll always be a saint? So he's basically saying he's going to be a saint or he's going to retire. I think it was one of those things where you take. He deep breath. You take your requisite three weeks off and then you ask yourself because it's not playing right it's camp it's going back to who the OTAS and to me. I feel like with brees and Brady like Philip rivers a said. I've missed the game. I don't WanNA quit. I think brees has that I. I think there's a depth of love for the game and that's why I think it's really hard you know. Trenton told me this years ago joy he said you know some people. Football people love what football provides them right. Drew feels like he loves it also. Has this the loves competing. I guess just the way. The season finished for the saints. It didn't feel like it was done for. Drew brees but drew did have an injury in the middle of the season miss five weeks of the year so we don't know how his body is feeling. It was a hand injury though it wasn't as a catastrophic. I was shopping injury honestly. But you know he he did miss some time. You don't know how his body is going. There's there's always a different reason why people retire some times the game just lets you know you're retired urge options your body sometimes as you said it's camp it's the preparation. Do I want to go through another whole season of this. Sometimes it's just your family and you're just ready to spend more time with them but again I think just the way the saints season ended. I hadn't thought of drew brees is we're trying whereas Philip rivers. Were all retired him without him actually retire. And obviously Eli Manning getting just announce. He's retiring we know Tom. Brady's coming back for another year without the conversation also so well guess ups will let us know within the next couple of sometimes your body. Let's you know it's time to go. That's not the case withdrew. He can play. I don't it's not a kid play but baby has we don't know how he feels. Maybe that's why we don't know what the answer is. Why is even talking about that so there was a full slate of NBA Games? Yesterday after Kobe Bryant pass away in many of the teams pay tribute to the Lakers legend by starting the game with either twenty four seconds shot clock violations or eight second back court violations of the eight games yesterday. The only ones do not start with teams trading clock violations ends was the rockets against the nuggets and said they had a moment of silence before the tip off. We saw a lot of videos from from that game. Obviously a lot of the players were extremely emotional. Channel trae young being one of them were showing right now. He wore the number eight Jersey to start the game. He was the first player to have a forty five point. Double Double With under twenty five field goal all attempts against the wizards since Kobe. Bryant's on December seventeenth. Two thousand six TRAE specifically was very emotional yesterday. He tweeted that he was able to meet John. Murray and she'd only been three games this year in two of them were his and she told her told him that he was her flavored player to watch so he was obviously a sham. I am now very emotional average. NBA Players Twenty six so they were born in nineteen ninety-three. Kobe is there. MJ Absolutely. I don't know if I could have played yesterday for some of these players. There's I've totally conversations about whether the NBA should've cancelled games. You know in a lot of cases it's you know it's not that simple to just cancel a game the logistics behind it. You're not considering the thousands of workers that are there to work and the more that goes into it in cancelling games but I also heard from a lot of players say that there was no way they wouldn't play because Koby would have wanted them and I guess Carmel Shut. Yes Yeah Carmelo did say that in these moments obviously we were extremely emotional yesterday having to go and then work in play basketball of all things in that moment is obviously very stressful in Austin rivers. Talking about his mind wasn't there in the game which is totally understandable. But you know sometimes as we know. Sports can be very therapeutic as well but see them for playing through that and then finally. The grammys took place at the Staples Center yesterday and many stars paid tribute to Kobe Bryant throughout the show at least your keys opened the night with a touching speeds speech and then Dj Cala gave a shout-out to coby be at the end of the Nipsy Hustle Chevy performance. Here's some video of that and we're literally standing here heartbroken in in the House that Kobe Bryant built right now Kobe and his daughter Jonah. Uh and all of those that are that have been tragically lost today are in spirit there in our hearts and our prayers there in this building building and I would like to ask everybody said take a moment and just hold them inside of you recipes. Kobe Bryant the keys and boys and men also saying it's so hard to say goodbye yesterday. At the beginning of the show lizard dedicated her performance to Coby coby jerseys were lit around the arena. An in an obviously outside of the arena outside of staples there were thousands of fans from Los Angeles coming to bring flowers and showed some video that now and pay tribute Kobe bringing jerseys and candles and I'm sure US Angeles is is going through right now. As we all are are all over the world we both live in Los Angeles so we know the impact that Koby we bryant has on the city of Los Angeles is a very emotional day for everyone in Los Angeles from the outside. You see this massive entertainment payment capital but I have found in my travels. All cities are small towns Dallas Atlanta and. There are a handful of people that we grow with and Kobe. Bryant and Magic Johnson. More than any Lakers to me. Sort of embodied the spirit of the organization This is a tough day for a lot. The people but for the Los Angelenos who listen to our show and wash. It's a rough time absolutely and also talk about Los Angeles people. Think of just Hollywood ed and superstars and as we know it's so so much more massive than that Bryant. Kobe was just a part of the community. There I mean he wasn't even he wasn't even living near Staples Center as we know who's in Orange County so he really. He really covered the entire spectrum of of the area and there was a video out about a month ago. Sometimes you get fog in these beach communities and Newport about a month and a half ago Kobe there was a car accident and Colby had gotten out of his car and was directing traffic and an interception option intersection for all his neighbors who were struggling. Gobi was part of a newport. He was Los Angeles. He was Los Angeles joy with the news. Yeah well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by heard. Line News Jim Jackson a former NBA or for a decade and a half new colby. Colby played against him played with him. He'll be joining US coming up next well every night. Local police departments. They get calls all right across America hundreds of calls from burglar alarms the vast majority of the time. They have no idea whether the alarm is real. Is there a crime. Truly going on all the alarm company can tell you is the motion sensor went off. That's simplisafe home. Security is different. 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Yeah and they put in the work but the attention to detail. I think that separated Berated Colby Michael Guys of that ilk of how they perfected their sport. It's just like little things that he would dissect in practice practice when he's working out individually watch tate understanding how to create space. What did you do on the court? How guys it's going to defend him how he's going to defend people and he would incorporate that into his workout whether it was training shooting whatever it was it was real methodical but it had purpose to it? It's interesting you played against Michael and you played with and against Kobe Bryant. Kobe was a better defensive player than people. Give Him Credit for twelve times. All defensive team. We know about Michael's defensive prowess when they guarded you. You are dominating high-school College score and a very good NBA score them. Defending you were there. Similarities or differences similarities. Michael was probably a little bit stronger. Yeah Okay from that perspective but Koby what he tried to do is get up into you. Make you uncomfortable okay. I mean really get up into and a lot of times. He had help in the background play with Shag right so that gave a little bit more leverage to really take away. What a player that but it but it went back to? Here's what Michael and Kobe did so well. In a lot of great defensive players they understood the strengths of a player and they try to take that away okay now an MBA. I don't care who it is. It's tough to stop somebody individuals especially when you have talent even a great defensive player in the great because you're going to get so many touches guard Mike called. I don't care what you do eventually. They're going to get their points. Is this a matter. Can you make him less efficient. Kobe was type where he was. Great off off the ball defenders playing the passing lane but on the ball. He kinda just got up into you got more than you tried to force you to help fortune away from what you did well. That's what made him special defensively. You know it's the Kobe shack marriage. I said this earlier. I always kind of defended it when it broke up. It was a band with two lead singers. There was no robin. No I mean pippen always relinquish the final shot so did Mikhail. We saw little Steph and and K.. Hey D- But steph again really hoisted up in your team now. You Shaq and Kobe. In their primes. This was bound. Oh Not in my opinion what we got out of. It is more than we could ever hope for. But it's difficult when you look at the history of the game. Even when you had Oscar Oscar and Tarim. Oscar was a little bit older. Okay so you can quantify Earl Monroe Clyde frazier that both a little bit older. So they understood understood. Okay so would you shack and Colby. This is a dynamic with there was still relatively young. Even Shaq was older. He came out of my class in you. You know ninety two. So we haven't seen that dynamic where you had to Alpha males at the height of their careers twenty-eight game both that had to kind of get along with two different personality analogy you had one who loved to play was fun joking and shot you had the serious young God. It was all about winning in this. Take the job serious. And and you can't have any days off. And that was an interesting dynamic. But the Lynch pin today was having Phil Jackson to bring that merits together to make it work. You retired and you love. You have a deep passion for golf and cigars Kobe. I read a quote as he was moving into retirement. And he said I have to take my obsessive personality and just have to put it in another Bass and it became coaching thing in fatherhood. Talk about he transitioned very well almost a Derek jeter peyton manning segue into retirement. You had to do it. It's not as easy as as people think. No because here's a dynamic in sports in general enjoy you can relate to this Jason. It's a small percentage of guys that can can walk away from the game the way they don't care what sport it is small percent. It was extremely hard for Peyton. Manning the walkway despite what he accomplished in his career because he he was injured on the backside. Kobe was the same way because he even though he went on and said I'm a retired. He didn't go out the way he wanted because he was injured. So you got to keep that remind people say what you got all this money. You should just retired. That's it no you've been doing this your whole life and then all of a sudden a lot of times it just comes to an end right and you have no oh control over that this is something you know your customer in the summertime. We're now getting ready for training camp. That's your routine for twenty years. Then all of a sudden it comes to. I'm and it's just supposed to be like okay. I'm just GonNa go do something else. No so that's why the preparation part of when you're playing helps to transition a a lot more than I do believe Kobe. The last two years the immortality feeling of my career is coming to an end started to sink in because you saw it how. He reacted to his teammates. A lot. More if you watch him in his interviews he was a lot more open and giving and giving the giver at the end. But I will say this the things that gotta happen in his life prepared him for fatherhood and also that transition post basketball because within his stories and his animation animation there was filled with what happened to him and why he was Toby Bryant while he was playing so that prep tim for Jiting that Oscar Oscar because it was all deep feelings on what happened at how he prepared himself and how now he's a better father a better husband a better friend and because of the journey that he went through through the NBA. What do you think you run the NBA? Today you're Adam silver right. How do we immortalize Kobe right now? It has to be strategic because when something like this happens immediately you wanna put pen to paper and said we gotta do this but you have to make something that makes sense longterm not just for the short term. It's easy to have a memorial Koby today tomorrow David Stern but you gotta make sure once you immortalize them that this thing makes sense forever because of what their legacies thing leave behind and you gets to be able to do it justice you just can't give them something here to say okay. Yeah Kobe this is how we want to know. This has to be special because what we were able to witness and I and our caution people about this all the time and and use the brand as an example when greatness comes about you better embrace it in enjoy it. Thank you because there's not gonna be here for along so to have what we've been able to see in our lifetime the Tom Brady's the Joe Montana's the Jerry Rice's when you go to Wayne Gretzky's tiger woods the the list goes on but when you put that in a vacuum of all of the athletes it's a small few that really touches like that yes we can critique him yes that's our job right but embrace the greatness while we have it not when they leave you know and I think too many times we do yeah and music were very good at celebrating the greatness while it's on the radio while it's in the stadium and then television we tend to be a bit more competitive cynical and punitive Kobe's life was imperfect I will say this he was an icon by about nineteen to twenty. That's a lot to ask left. We made him an icon. We put on an all star team wasn't starter but you're not thinking about Kobe love. I love the people that Admire to be flawed. Okay because being flawed allows you to be human and the beauty about. Kobe is a he accepted. Those flaws goes with the best of he said. Yeah this is who I put it out there. I'll put it out there and those flaws made him who he is. What's going to be today before the death okay? A lot of people will go away from that and tried to hide something Kobe. Tell you flat out Nama Beata Best. I don't care who it is. I don't okay what you think shack. He didn't work hard. So what I'm all about champion. This is who I am. Yeah he didn't hide behind the stuff that happened in Colorado. You know what made him a better a father and husband. That's why local Bro. Well said Jim thanks. Jim Jackson well said caps Canadians today. Discover card key matchup folks discover matches all the cash. Back you've earned your first year automatically go to discover dot com slash cash back match millions getting cash back. We'll see tomorrow. How bunnies ARD marine? You may know from Chelsea lately or as Regina Sinclair on sociable. I want to tell you about my comedy. 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Remembering Kobe and Gianna Bryant

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Remembering Kobe and Gianna Bryant

"This is one A.. I'm Todd Willik in Washington. How are you and the rest of the country dealing with the tragic death of Kobe Bryant and his thirteen year? Old Daughter Jonah. They were among nine people who died Sunday after their helicopter. Copter crash near Calabasas California. Here's a call from Katy one of many of you who is devastated. By this week's news we look at the things that are in the column column of good versus on the negative and maintain his legendary status and the good that he's brought to others off the court and Dan after his retirement to the kids to the families to people around the world. People across the country are dealing with this tragic loss. Kobe Bryant was beloved by so many for his accomplishments and what he gave back to communities and to basketball a lot of people are also grappling with what to do when a beloved celebrity has a complicated past. What will Kobe? Bryant's enduring legacy look like and how should we memorialize public figures in their totality joining me now by phone Palo you get a staff writer for the ringer. A sports news site Palo. Welcome to one. Ed Thank you for having me a Brian Cashman. Esky is also here Brian. Brian is a sports writer. and Co host of the form club a Lakers podcast from ESPN LA seven. Ten Brian. Great to have you thank you reveling and also with us from Los Angeles Molly night. She's a journalist for the athletic and all online sports news publication. Molly great to have you as well. Thanks for having me Apollo. It's been about two days since Kobe. Bryant's sudden and tragic passing. What struck you about the public reaction now now that the public is maybe passed? That initial shock. I think especially here in Los Angeles you see the connection. He had built up with all these people you know. On Sunday I went to a couple of the murals that depict him celebrating. And you see all the people from all all different kinds of walks of life and all different kinds of areas of la coming to you know. Drop some flowers or some letters and candles and it's really for me at least you. I grew up here. But I'm not from your from Asaba. And you see people from of Latino people from all kinds of walks of life and and all of them having been brought together rather by the connection to Cobian and his career which you know if you think about it longer than most players I think really really resonated with multiple generations and is you talked to Angelenos around L. A. Paolo. What are some of the threads some of the recurring sentiments? That you here. is they remember Kobe. Yeah I think obviously everybody remembers the big moments you know the eighty one point game championships and and you know his buzzer readers. And all of that. But there's also a something I've been really interesting is there's A. There's a personal connection with a lot of people and I think people gravitate to a player like Steph curry these days because you know he plays the game with such joy Cho he kind of played it with this very hard nosed dedication and work. That came to really define him and I found that interesting. That people will still gravitated toward that founded related. Almost that that that hard work that he put in they felt like you know they felt like he inspired them to also do that in whatever their walk of life. Now Brian Kamensky. You cover the Lakers for people who didn't follow his career as closely as maybe a lot of people in Los Angeles remind mind a little bit about his dominance on the court his numbers. What kind of player was he? He was arguably the the the greatest score score of this generation after Michael Jordan You know he Just this weekend. Lebron James. Also playing for the Lakers past coby on the all time points points list To go from four four two thirds so now Kobe is ranked fourth all time in points scored he had five titles is all of which came in in a Lakers uniform. there are very few players of this or any other generation who have this sort of statistical a typical accomplishments. Who have the All Star appearances and the championships and all of these things he has an MVP award that? Kobe accumulated over. The course of of twenty years is a Laker. It's quite a legacy you know before. We continue talking about Kobe. Bryant and his legacy. We also want to honor the the memory of the other passengers aboard that helicopter on Sunday. Their names are Christina. Mazar a girls basketball coach in Orange County California. John Altobelli the head basketball coach at Orange Coast College. His wife Carrie Altobelli and their daughter Eliza altobelli player for the Mambas Sarah Chester her and her daughter Peyton and Ariza Byron Kobe. Bryant's private helicopter pilot Molly night you wrote one of the few individual tributes to GonNa Bryant Thirteen years old for the athletic. She seemed to have accomplished quite a lot in her young life. She did and it was important to me I understand her. Father was one of the most famous people in the world And when that happens when you have a famous parent I see it all the time in in in Los Angeles than I have. I have friends who famous parents often invisible people. You're you you walk into a room with your data your mom or your sibling in uh-huh Everyone started them in. No one looks at you or they only talk to you because they want to get to the famous person you're related to There's something that struck me about. How about this death when I was at the crash site in it was confirmed that the Gina was among those who were killed? I just thought you know I. I don't want hardy. Just be known as as Kobe. Bryant's daughter as CLETO collateral damage Even in the Kobe Bryant Death So I went researched earn. Yeah she was a fierce young basketball player she she loved it and I believe if she had the same DNA as Kobe wanted to be the esten. Just practising practising practising all the time I mean I think I think she absolutely could have achieved goals which were going to play University of Connecticut going and going onto Wnba. It's just it's just such a shame or grow only thirteen years old and I believe she needed to be eulogize remembered. It is as a person in her own right. Her goal to go to University of Connecticut. Dominant Women's Basketball Program in division. One molly the passengers aboard that chopper. Oppor were headed to a game for the Mamba. Sports Academy talk a little bit about that. Yeah so Kobe. Bryant is actually done doesn't quite a bit and he's he's got four daughters has been inspired Just to be a stay at home dad with them to get involved in youth sports in the Mamba Sports Academy we number park as a as a place where kids go and play basketball and there was a tournament I believe he started with one other person. There was a tournament over the weekend. They were there on Saturday. Played and everything was fine. He lives down in or he it's so weird to save lives in present tense His family lives his family. Lives down in South Orange County and it's quite a commute. Driving wise could take up to three hours to get out there and And so they okay. He decided along with Some other kids from Jiji's team and their parents to take a helicopter out there that day To who to join in with all the games were played. And I I know Jonah was was scheduled to play that day and I imagine the other children on on the helicopter were as as well though. It's just the idea that they were killed going to arrest tournament really hit me hard. I I grew up playing basketball. I heard from some of my teammates yesterday. Were you know when we from from when I was thirteen We're just talking about all the all the all the tournaments be committed to just how how devastating the says in two thousand Eighteen Bryant appeared on the podcast decor with the big cat and a rat. Here's Kobe Bryant talking about his love of helicopters copters and how he became a passenger. Tell us a little bit about your team your Newport beach and you you you take a helicopter walk us through it and why and how that started. A lot of people don't know that story. Yeah so my routine is always the same. I wake up four in the morning and I lift weights. You know really early five in the morning get home at about six thirty time. Wake up the kids for school after school activities all the fun stuff even on weekends but then traffic start getting really really bad right right and I was sitting in traffic. I wanted missing school play because I was sitting in traffic in this distinguished came out and I had to figure out a way rockets. Still trained in focus but still not compromise Burma's family time. And so that's when I looked into helicopters able to get down in back in fifteen minutes and that's when it started Palo. Kobe Bryant one of the people who can skip over L. A. Traffic by taking a helicopter instead of sitting on the freeway. What what's known at this point about conditions on Sunday? I I think you know looking seeing the reports. They're still investigating that but it seems like some you know I. I remember waking up on Sunday and seeing that there was soi even hearing all he would and and you know. I think there was a report that it might have been foggy in that might have possibly affected the flight. But yeah I it was. It was weird gloomy day. Like I said it just kind of carried on his ain't I didn't notice it the fall. I wondering you know near the mountains whether that was also something then you know was a factor in that all right Brian. We're going to take a pause in a minute but before we do just give me a sense of the reaction from around the league. Other athletes colleagues of Kobe Bryant. I think it's difficult to overstate the impact that Kobe hat on players He in the League for twenty twenty years. There are a lot of guys who play now who were playing against Kobe a few years ago when he retired but also the way he sort of inspired younger players in the way that they looked up to him as as a model in the same way that players Kobe generation might have looked at Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson Larry Bird and so the tributes around the League have been frequent. A A lot of players have of his friends of Miss Games because they just couldn't play The Lakers won't play tonight You know Tuesday night and their game against the clippers that that was postponed by the NBA. There's just deep levels of grief around the league. That's a Brian Cashman at ski from. ESPN LA seven ten. The Form Club podcast contributor the Athletic Paulo. You Getty's here and so as Molly night we're GonNa take pause and then talk about how Kobe Bryant will be remembered in his totality. I'm Todd's God's will you're listening to one A. from WMU and NPR support for this podcast and the following message come from Google from Connecticut to California from Mississippi to Minnesota millions of American businesses are using Google tools to grow online the grow with Google initiative of support small businesses by providing free digital skills workshops and one on one coaching in all fifty states helping businesses get online connect with new customers and work more productively actively learn more at Google dot com slash growl. What does it take to start something from nothing? And what does it take to actually build breath. I'm guy rise. Every week on how I built this speak with founders behind some of the most inspiring companies in the world how I built this from NPR. Listen sure with your friends. It's one I'm todd's Willik. We're talking about the legacy of Kobe. Bryant with PAGLIUGHI staff writer for the Ringer Brian Kamensky Co host of ESPN LA seven. Tenths the form podcast and molly night and journalist for the Athletic Kobe. Bryant could be a polarizing figure figure both as a player and celebrity in two thousand and three. He was charged with one count of Felony Assault. His accuser was a nineteen year old worker at the Colorado Hotel where Bryant was staying at the time he was twenty four. She declined to testify in the criminal case that came from the charge and then the charge was dropped. OPT Bryant settled civil case outside of court in two thousand and four with the woman for a non-disclosed amount of money. We heard from a few listeners. Who struggled to reconcile this part of Brian's past with the entirely positive attributes that are currently dominating the conversation I named Lauren calling from Minneapolis Minnesota calling about the story on Kobe? Bryant's legacy GonNa really hard and confusing few days processing this news news I was raped when I was nineteen. which is the same age Kobe? Bryant's accuser was in two thousand and three and so while it's very sad That this you know. Tragic accident happened that his daughter was on board. I also feel angry and confused that the predominant narrative is that he was this incredible athletes in person When there was just really dark side to us life so just trying to hold all of that and You know give give space for all those emotions. Thank you for your story Lauren. We also heard from a listener in Colorado who remembers watching Kobe. Bryant play in two thousand and three when Kobe became a star. I was athletic trainer for the women's basketball team at the University of Colorado. I was actually at a Laker game at the staple center when when they play. The Denver. Nuggets and Kobe actually arrived halfway through that game because he'd been in Colorado earlier that day with for legal proceedings he shows up to the big cheers. He he actually hits the game winning jumper to beat the nuggets. So I've always been a little conflicted about Kobe eventually. The cases the charges were dropped against him and and the more important part is that Kobe made an apology. I believe the girl and and what she says happened that day and part of the reason I believe her is because Kobe apologize and he acknowledged that he even though he considered what happened consensual. He could understand why she may have thought. It wasn't consensual. I do wish Kobe would would have been more public about speaking out against sexual assault and about consent because especially in this moment in era that we live in. It's still not completely understood instead. Rob tweeted this. It seems to me that Kobe. Bryant's trajectory and legacy was significantly altered by the rape incident. The settlement may have been distasteful to awesome but it appears to me that he truly made a sincere effort at redemption. Brian Cashman Eski. Have you heard similar responses from people. You've talked talk to about this complicated and difficult part of Kobe. Bryant's past and whether he truly made amends for it. Yeah I mean I think there are. There are are fans of Kobe and fans of the Lakers. Who who don't really want to think about it? I think there are other fans who think it's vitally important to to remember this and I and I do think it is something that is that is that is part of the story and part of the record of Kobe. Bryant and into ignore it Does a disservice to history. It does a disservice to accuracy I to me what I think is so significant is looking looking at how different things would have been When you compare you know two thousand three two thousand four and when the case was settled to what what what would it be now? And what are the prevailing attitudes. Now how would this trial have been handled. How the coverage would have been different You know the the his accuser user was treated very very harshly in the media and the way we talk about consent the way we talk about victims and accusers is much different out to the in in a in a more positive direction and I think the story Kobe Bryant would have been significantly different. Had this incident happened in in. You know fifteen years later what you do with that as a sports fan and as a Kobe fan is is difficult to quantify. Because you know in anything where we have sort of these tribal alignments of our favorite teams are our favorite politicians. Whoever might be? We are famous for COMP- compartmentalizing these sorts of things and taking the things that we don't like and kind of putting it in a box over here because we don't like to think about them But what you know what Kobe was accused of doing and what came of that is an important part of this story. That should be talked about and should be acknowledged even while also also acknowledging you know the work that he did with you know girls basketball and with his family and all these other things in the WNBA and you know what came of Kobe In in the years Follett. Let's hear from another one of YOU WANNA listeners on this issue of balancing Kobe. Bryant's legacy. Yes my name. Is Noah and I'm calling in reference to the Kobe Bryant question you asked about should you highlights the bad thing. Of course you know when an individual has done a lot of good and a lot of bad that encompasses who they are but don't buy it. We highlight one bad thing to overshadow all the good. Someone is done just this report it as it is. That's that's all. We want Kobe. Kobe was a legend Made a mistake and You know we're talking about philanthropy and what he's done and he was legacy Palo is you travel around. La talked angelenos about Kobe and get their memories in their overall impressions tower. They processing this duality. Are they do they talk to you about both things. There was man. There was one man who mentioned that you know in speaking to him and and in the way he framed it was that he thought that you know well that was an important part of his career which it is and when that couldn't be ignored and campy I did feel like from his perspective. He's Kobe had matured a lot and grown a lot. And you know I think Kobe's outside celebrity status and you you know welcomes this kind of careful. Study of his entire life you know the flaws and as well as the triumph and I think from people's perspectives. He had he had grown a line. He had matured. He he had seemed to you. Know become a different person from what from what happened in that moment even though at the time I believe that it was if you go back and look part of the reason he created this you know Black Mamba mentality. That came to be known as kind of his his his nickname was because he wanted to separate himself from was was really troubling situation. So I think people people are you know like like Brian says the dirt. They don't smoke them. Don't really want acknowledge it but you no. I think if you if you as a fan are that passionate about Kobe passionate about his wife and you know you you recognize any cherish. The great things he did. You can also welcome the maybe not criticism but the the The identifying of those tougher situations that that did happen the need to be knowledge. No it's not not just for the sake of remembering Kobe but also for the sake of victims and not specifically just African with victims across the country. I think it's incredibly important. To due process a celebrity in their legacy in its totality. I I hope that the culture is doing that. We're trying to do it here on one and I think it's the way to look at a person's percents contribution overall when you look at their life and they pass from us. We'll have a few more questions for my guests after a short break. Stay with us. This is one many of us have imaginary friends as children. But for some of us these invisible companions Indians. Don't go away. She was as real to me as my friend next to me this week on hidden brain from NPR. Back now to who are conversation about the legacy of Kobe Bryant a Brian Back to the court for just one second. There's an episode. I saw on social media that I just wanted to put to your a much bigger basketball ball fan than I am. I'm a baseball guy but I saw a video of a game where Kobe Bryant was on the cusp of sixty points and he was on the free throw line and he drained one for fifty nine and then when it was time for him to get a sixty point game. An opposing player on another team stepped stepped into the lane in so that if Kobe Bryant had missed sixty points he would get another shot. 'cause that's a violation. That was an image that it reflected how other players felt about him. and His dominance. Yeah this is actually from Kobe. Bryant's final game which was replayed Monday night on. ESPN I and We replayed it on our air. SPN La on the radio This this was his final point As a player and that player on the Utah Jazz Gordon Hayward and there are a lot of people who thought that he did that on purpose He has said Gordon Hayward has that wasn't intentional. He wasn't trying to get Kobe. Another free throw If he had missed But I love that story anyway. Because it does sort of show the respect that players had for for Bryant as as just this icon in basketball and what he was doing it thirty seven years old to score sixty points on in his final game. The the level of theater there and It just it felt so appropriate and I was at that game was one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen But it it it. He wasn't really trying to do anymore over. I don't think Koby would have wanted him to do it. fortunately he hit the free throw an so sixty. was you know untainted. In that way. He looked like like he was trying to give him another shot. But he says he wasn't. It's hard to tell but you know guys take a long time to take the free throws in the get impatient. Wait and go try to get a rebound. Let's close out our conversation about Kobe. Bryant by hearing from the Athlete himself. Here's Kobe Bryant reading dear basketball. It's a poem published by. Yeah the Players Tribune in twenty fifteen and adapted for an Oscar winning animated short by the same name. Listen the deer basketball From the moment I started rolling. My Dad's tube socks shooting imaginary game winning shots and the Great Western for. There's a new one thing was real. Fill in love with you love so deep. I gave you Offer from a mind embody to my spirit and so as a six year old boy and deeply in love Sir. I never saw the end of the tunnel only so myself. In the words of legendary Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant. Paul Getty is a staff writer for the Ringer Paolo. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me molly night with the ringer as well molly. We appreciate your time. Having me and Brian Cashman Eski sports writer and CO HOST OF ESPN LA seven. Ten the form club Brian. Thank you for your contributions will thank you this. This conversation was produced by station Brown and edited by Matthew Simonsen to learn more about them and the rest of the team visit our new website. The one eight dot org. This program comes to you from I'm W AMU part of American University in Washington it's distributed by NPR until we meet again. I'm todd's well thank you so much for listening. This is one the.

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Full Show LIVE from Miami (A Tribute to the Life of Kobe Bryant)

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Full Show LIVE from Miami (A Tribute to the Life of Kobe Bryant)

"The first things first. I'm John Wolf. This is Nick Right Chris for joining us this this morning. We are down here in Miami for Super Bowl Week. We came here to talk football but in life sometimes plans change and unfortunately today is one of those days. We are continuing to process the news of Kobe. Brian Steph his reach so much farther than just basketball as a father and husband has been an NBA legend and Oscar winner. So much more nick. I know this was hard on your was hard on every sports fan. How are you processing all of this morning? Now that you've that is second to let it sink in. Yeah I think processing is the right word and I don't think it sunk in I. This is the first one of these for me as far as unlike broussard. I had no personal relationship with Kobe. Bryant and I've never had had a celebrity death that registered with me the way I know so many have with other people. I remember the outpouring when Michael Jackson passed. Ask and I'll be totally candid. I didn't understand it. I understood people appreciated Newsweek and appreciated his career. But I didn't understand the grief reef people were feeling and now I do A. I am still in a stage of disbelief. Chris Chris I win. The news came across my twitter. Feed is I think was so many people I said. Well that's it can't be right and then as the news seemingly the only got sadder and sadder and it was confirmed and then we also know his thirteen year. Old Daughter passed away along with seven other people. I don't even know how to wrap my arms around it and I am in true shock that these it it Kobe Bryant Nineteen Seventy eight to twenty twenty that that we are not going to see Kobe Bryant sitting courtside Laker Games. When he's old and gray and that we're not going to get to see this next phase of his life that he seemed to be so excitedly embracing over the last few years of his retirement? uh-huh yeah like everyone. I mean. I was in shock. I was actually in the air when I found out I was flying to Chicago in in roots are here somebody at texted me. OMG and I shot back a question mark and they say Kobe dive and it just I was like this. Can't be Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant question mark and they said yeah and I began seeing other stuff because we were about to land in the news and it was like a gut cut punch and as you said I mean. I've seen tragedies. I was very little kid when Roberto Clemente died of a plane crash Thurman Munson. I was older and could understand when he died with the Yankees Magic Johnson when he came out got HIV people on a die. Hard order. Roy Halladay and more recently the great pitcher. But I haven't experienced anything like this in the world of Sports Ford in my lifetime. This is the most tragic for me that I've ever seen and there are a lot of reasons to be devastated but one was that Kobe. Head transition so smoothly to life after basketball which surprised me because because he has such tunnel vision as a player that I actually was one that thought he might have trouble transitioning because basketball was such so much a part of his is life and really was his life but he I mean I haven't seen a transition this new business ventures a venture capitalist won an Oscar. Oh for his movie dear basketball bestselling author for the Mamba Mentality Book and a family man a tremendous family win. That's why we didn't see as many laker games because he was spending time coaching his kids. Ironically the last time I saw him was about a year ago at the mall in Newport New Newport or beach where he lived and he was with his family and we spoke for about ten minutes he seems so comfortable and so just comfortable in life after basketball and so. That's one of the reasons of many. That is most devastating than me. All Jenna that the what Bruce Archer right there is was my immediate reaction. Once you start the process it is. There are certain guys who really do worry about wants as their careers over. No matter how much money you're famer accolades. They have. What will they do and will? They always be trying to who've reclaimed their athletic fame and I would have thought Kobe was going to be tops on that list because he was such an amazing competitor and he seemed to have a just a almost animalistic need to compete to defeat you to have there be some Scoreboard that he was on the top of but instead he went a totally different way. He embraced he totally room. Self into I would. It would appear the things. He may be always had a passion for but deprived himself of because he was so focused on singular greatness as a basketball a player and so he gets into films. He's always reading a different book and she gets his sports fixed through his daughters. And that's the part that for everyone to me is so jarring about it and it's a makes makes you honestly reconsider all your decisions. It makes you like all of us. I you know. Spend time away from our families for career. We're very focused on broussard. If I may your bi-coastal and I spent a year and and a half living in a different city than my wife and kids and going back and forth and it makes you think like is any it does any of it matter other than the things that actually matter and Gobi was finally getting to do the things for him actually matter and to have that stripped from him and selfishly for all of us to lose getting to see what the next fifty years of a savant a brilliant person I and that was trilingual person that could show the ability to get to the top of multiple fields. What he would've would've done the things he was already trying to do for women's basketball? It's it is a tragedy. Unlike I can remember in the sports world in my lifetime so for me I was at. I was at another network when the news of the Michael Jackson passing happen and I was just starting my career. When when when Princess Di Tragically killed those were the only two that I can remember that had such an incredible global reach but we didn't live really in the time of intense social media as we do now where you get the immediate impact of of how much he has coby Bryan has touched everyone? I mean far. I'm from just basketball. You scroll down any of your feeds and he has affected just about everyone and I know you both touched on it but my question to you is how much bigger it was. Kobe Bryant then just the basketball accolades which in and of itself are tremendously impressive. First of all basketball wise on a world stage he was as big as anyone anyone because in Asia he was arguably the biggest NBA player. There you know so yup basketball wise. I mean his impact is second to none and that includes does Michael Jordan and Lebron James as far as worldwide prominence and being a face of the game but Ko Nick Kamen touched a lot of athletes even if they go on to do some really good things after their playing career the best part at least to the public of their life life was going to be their sports career. I'm not sure that was going to be the case with Kobe. Bryant because he I mean he's I've been retired with three or four years three years and a half years and he's already done so many tremendous things and so what what he was going to do. Do I mean. I don't know if he would've ever delved into politics or whatever he obviously was intelligent enough was well respected enough to do things like that but he he was gonNA do some tremendous things off the court and again that is one of the things that makes us so tragic in my mind and and I don't know if this makes it Satur- or makes it I don't know more palatable. Probably somewhere in between when he was in the public you right in the public is Saturday night the night before because they were the Lakers were in Philly and Lebron passed him in the scoring list. And so what you saw from Kobe with his tweet after the game with Bill Flash in the LA Times wrote about today was. Kobe was truly at peace and was no longer engaging in the heavy stuff that I find myself engaging in all the time of this player versus player he was so confident and satisfied with what he had accomplished in basketball that that he had. I don't want to remove yourself from the fray but he was warning now just to lift others up and to move on to other phases. This is so you're glad he got that piece but it is for Kobe's family. The family of the other people on that airplane are earn helicopter for everyone. It is the type of thing and this is not going to be totally candidates three hours today. I just going to be. I don't know soul searching but aside but then I'll talk with bruce sort off the air about in that regard is a man of deep deep faith to be totally candid I. Am Not so much and is the type of thing that makes you question either. Like and that is the impact of something like this. You either say like how is this fair or this is where you grab someone's hand who has that type of faith and you say this is how you get through these types of things. God Willing I. I hope those those three other daughters and his wife have that support structure around. Because this is this is unbelievable. Well as you can imagine. The news has struck so many throughout the sports world. As well this from Shaquille O'Neal there are no words to express the pain. I'm going through now with at this tragic and sad moment of losing my niece G. G. and my friends my brother my partner in winning championships. Dude my homie. I love you and will miss. He will be missed. My condolences go out to the Bryant family and the families of the other passengers on board. I'm sick right now. He then added. Kobe was so much more than an athlete fleet. He was a family man. That was what we had most in common. We love our families. Whenever we got together I would hug his children like they were my own and he would embrace my hi kids like they were his his baby girl? Jonah was born on the same day as my youngest daughter. I miss you already brother. This is truly unbelievable. Everyone please escape the Brian's in your prayers rest in peace. We Talk About Physical Fitness Salat. But there's another side to the game that's just as important. I'm talking about mental fitness. Calm the number one APP for sleep and meditation has now teamed up with Lebron James to help. If you train your mind. 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We are here in Miami covering Super Bowl fifty four but we do continue to celebrate the life of Koby Bryant which has sidetracked us just a little bit today. This was the scene yesterday afternoon afternoon in Los Angeles. Within hours of the news of Kobe's tragic death fans began to gather outside the staple center countless current and former NBA be a players feeling just as lost as the fans. Here's Dwayne Wade. Today is is one of the saddest days in my lifetime. Uh seems like a bad bad dream. She's Waco from the nightmare in the same way about such a great. This is a great leader. Great champion the great person has coby coby. Nobody better a man though to place. These are the moments when you buy heart goes out to Kobe's family his daughter and there's no way around it stories so many moments that he's giving us we're so thankful for those moments per foot of the moment. Is there so it was one of my favorite players. I I've got to have a relationship. A friendship missile. Missive friendship. Many Times Kobe retired from game of basketball in a hole hole in in my wanting to play when I came into the chase them chased I wanted to be respected by him was level on new zone. So thank you man. You've all the memories we go ones and these tears we cry. It is not going to go. It's not leaving today. We've we've from now a month from now a year from now we ever ever miss you. Man You are legend icon. Your father your husband. Those were just some of your brother. Your friend thank you for being my friend. I love you brother. The raw emotion from everybody that Kobe has touched along the way. If we didn't already know yesterday showed us just how much Kobe to an entire generation of former and current players. Nick what is all of this reaction. Tell you about Kobe's legacy not just to the Lakers. which is just to the world bolt? Yeah this is something broussard talks about a lot easier. If you talk to current players they almost to a man. WHO's the guy? You looked up to Kobe. WHO's the guys from his era? WHO's the dumpster guard Kobe? Who's the and you can speak on this better than I can? But like she we all know he's one of the greatest players in NBA. History is one of the three greatest guards ever he is arguably the great the icon of the greatest franchise in NBA history and some people take sports history certainly in the last fifty years. Nobody's had more success in sports parts than the Los Angeles Lakers but and we could in some point today. I will go down the list of things he did from year. Four to year seventeen to culminating taking in the sixty point final game of his career which is just. You wouldn't believe it if it was in a sports movie you you wouldn't believe it you'd say rewrite the ending it's not it's too unbelievable. But the what do people say broussard. When they're in an office and they're shooting a piece of paper to a trash can Kobe and he truly transcended in a way that certain athletes? Even if you think they're higher on the all-time list that they never could dream of transcending. Yeah I mean you mentioned current players and current players and former players. You know a lot of times. We have the conversation and without out fail whenever I'm talking to players of either playing today or they were playing in the past. They say Kobe. Kobe got to be in that discussion. Why why are people more people talking about Cohen? I mean next how great he was. You mentioned you know the sixty points and his last game. which was so Kobe Brian to go out with a sixty point? Game the eighty one points for our generation that was like wilt Chamberlain's Chamberlain's one hundred point game and it's it may be the you know in Wilt Chamberlain Day and you look back at that that game and you know it became a concerted effort by his team to get him the basketball so we could score to one hundred points Kobe's eighty-one came in a competitive game. They were down fourteen points. I believe in the first half and he had to score to get them to win the game. You score fifty five in the second half so as a basketball player. His legacy is as is big as anyone's as great as anyone's but the thing about colby is that it goes like so. Many athletes defy the stereotype of what we think jockeys so many of them and particularly you know even an African American job colby defied those stereotypes more than anyone. He spoke five languages. He wasn't from the hood. He you know a lot of people think mentality the killer instinct that you got to be from a really rough often tough upbringing to have that type of mentality. Kobe's play professional basketball. Kobe grew up in Italy. It's degree yet. He had is tough and hard. Arnott's of a mentality as anybody as any athlete we've ever seen and I think his legacy as great as it is physically on the court. It is as much mental because the reason so many athletes say Kobe go. Conversation is because of that killer instinct and his ability to focus focus on whatever the task is was just incredible and we saw it in his post career to now. I'm done with basketball. Aw I'm focused on my media company. I'm focused on you. Know my books and my movies and all the things he was doing so mentally. He's he's one of the strongest athletes that we have ever seen. After this happened yesterday I went back to the hotel room and I just put on the TV. It didn't matter what channel you flipped on. This is what they were talking about. It seemed like Knick player after player coach after coach talked about just that his work ethic guy who so gifted and so talented would still. You'll be the first one of the gym. There were players talking about how they would come to play the Lakers and he'd be out there before the game practicing boo building up a sweat. Then go back and change and come come out and play the game and you wonder how someone who was so talented at their craff would want to spend so much more time at the crap which is what you're talking about. How we became came successful after basketball thing? Listen by regular human being standards. Kobe Bryant was a freak show athlete. I- MBA standards. He was not. It's great leaper. Mary fast but he wasn't overly tall she wasn't he was not physically dominant. And the reason you cannot be physically physically dominant and you're on the list that I was talking about is just like Michael Jordan. We had almost the exact same body specs. Just said a man. I am scared of no one. I am scared of no situation and I will work harder than you. Where what you think is hard work? I think it's the first workout of the day. And that is how you get to this. Level of greatness that is how in year seventeen contain. You're playing your seventy eighth out of eighty possible games in a season. You're averaging twenty seven points per game trying to drag a team that was well past its era into the postseason and have your Achilles pop on you and still get up and shoot those free throws right there are. There are so many moments in Kobe's career that if he were a fictitious character you would think well Zack's that's the scene of the movie but he had like five of the you you mentioned eighty one point game. She scored sixty two a few weeks. Earlier in three quarters was asked why you didn't go in stay in to try to go for eighty and he said I'll get another time and he and he did he hit those free throws the pop two killings he for his fifth championship which was such an important moment for him because this was as before he was to a different phase in his life and shack at forty at forty one that fifth. They're down three two in the finals. They win game six game seven he. He is just doesn't have his shot. So what does he do. It gets fifteen rebounds and plays great defense and then my final night life. Final Day like we talked about Babe Ruth calling his shot but in a fashion similar to Derrick jeeter hitting a home run. I three thousand or the walk call for his final game sixty Lena season he hadn't scored forty. It was twenty I those loose and they one of four and of course those things don't happen in real life and then by the way two years after I graduate Jews after I retire won won an Oscar and like that is that why his level of ICONOCLASM. If that's the word is going to be hard to be matched by any current. NBA Player no matter the levels on the court they achieved because yes he did it in a way and with a flair that we haven't seen since we're really proud zero taxes here to help this tax season making tax filing easier for you. They've made it their mission to give you all the tools and advice you need to get your taxes done with competence like making uploading Your W. Two as easy as taking a picture. Just use your phone or tablet to simply snap a picture of your W. Two then watcher information appear in the right place in your tax return. You can be sure your filing on your taxes correctly while at the same time making sure you're getting the best possible refund turbo tax. All people are tax people. We are back here. Live from Miami. We're here for Super Bowl fifty four today however we are remembering the life of Kobe. Brian who passed away at the age of forty one yesterday as you can imagine there was plenty of reaction around the league. Here was Kareem abdul-jabbar difficult so for me to put in words how I feel about the loss of Kobe Bryant as a young boy I met him when he was eleven. Twelve years old is friends with his dad. Joe We were a former adversaries. joepat played for the seventy sixers but he was a good friend and someone that I shared a friendship. And it's hard for me to understand now how this is affecting Joe and his wife so to always family I want to send my most sincere and heartfelt regrets and prayers and my thoughts are with you guys. It's an incredible family man. He loved his wife and daughters. He was incredible athlete and a leader. In a lot of ways he inspired a whole generation of young athletes. He was one of the first ones to leave high school. Come to the NBA and do soil dominating the game and becoming one of the best scores that the Los Angeles Lakers has ever seen. I had the privilege of being there when he scored his eighty me one point game and it was something that I will always remember as one of the highlights of the things that I learned and observed in sports Kobe. My thoughts would you absolutely rest in peace young men. This loss is it's just Orange Kareem abdul-jabbar on the passing of Kobe Bryant. We are now joined by Doug Godly Gottlieb when you heard the music jumped on at Redeye from La. You made sure you were here. What was your reaction when you heard about all of this? I mean I was Crestfallen. I've got to know Kobe. After his career we live in the same area. Our daughters from the school together for a couple years and one of the other families bellies John's a legendary junior college baseball families. That was yes and his wife Kerry and they they leave to kids Christina mousers a PE teacher their school. She leaves three kids. It's terrible local tragedy and Mike. My daughter my daughter's friend. Eliza was obviously on that plane so I yes. You're you're dealing with a thirteen year old daughters enough problems middle school mouth sudden. You're dealing with death and then it's it's Koby and I think you said it before Chris. The timing of what happened the night before. Like the Broncos even talked about Lebron really interesting kind of. Let us in that that back. When Kobe's playing the All Star game his hometown of Philadelphia he had Lebron he he and the? Brian Got Maverick Carter. They drove to go see him. Yeah and he was getting ready to play play Oak Hill the next day and gave his shoes and the broadmoor size too small to go from Lebron passing him in Philadelphia and becoming third. All time and Kobe has handled this so well. I guess well as you possibly can. And then pops up on your phone. Your daughter's autres crying and I know you don't know what's going on. And then you just understand the magnitude and I think the fact that we had cream Abdul Jabbar at they're like this is. NBA Stars ours are not like NFL stars and start seeing the live forever and you're still alive. There's there's gave out the NBA first MVP in nineteen fifty six as of yesterday morning only Wilt Chamberlain and Moses Malone were the NBP's that were not still with us and the fact that it's now three in Kobe's one of them. It speaks to that point. We were talking about this for the show. There's the Bill Russell seeming like bill. Russell seemed like the oldest man in the room for my entire higher life. And you still see him every NBA finals like you're absolutely Moses. Was Sudden Bi was older. But we thought we we're GONNA have fifty more years of Kobe Bryant in our lives and and Chris we've we've talked about this plan. A lot of people were worried about Kobe. Right if you has is KOBE CANNOT BE A. Gm Me coach his demands on people in terms. That work ethic is beyond what normal people are are really even capable of so we like what else and he did find he did find this. I mean he was really into coaching. The Mama girls like he's sending me videos of triangle and some of the drills they're doing they're practicing five days a week and then he had his empire but so my initial reaction. I was Crestfallen for all these Newport families and then you start to understand the magnitude of NBA superstars don't die and then and then the story itself. The whole thing is you cannot write a script like this from the airball his his freshman year in the playoffs year in the playoffs to becoming seen as the greatest closer you know the injuries. He's Colorado becoming this family man mom out and now having having an academy award like it's the most remarkable walkable tale I can think of for Mba player and unlike so many of his contemporaries gone way too soon. Bill classy longtime columnist for the La Times and his career de la times basically mirrored careers. Kobe's career with the Lakers. Last started two months before the first game and he wrote Yesterday in his column one of the lines was Co.. We does not die like this can't be true. Kobe doesn't die and we know he's a basketball. Ask a ball immortal but that was part of my thinking when when I heard the news like wait a minute. This can't be like Kobe. Bryant is one of those handful of players that you you just expected to always be there so always be in the fabric of sports and basketball. And I'm going to be like I think one of the things. I'm going to try to start. Applying more to my life is something that I look at Kobe. As having and that is co and I think anyone in any field of endeavor ever should learn this from colby he did nothing just for the heck of it. He did nothing just to get through it. Oh I've gotta do when it was when he play okay basketball it was. I'm playing to be the best ever or at least the best I can be. I remember seeing him when one of his new models of his sneaker would come out. You got my new shoe shoe yet. Or when amuse came out and showtime documentary we we used to email every so often and like he. He moved around around a bit as a kid. I moved around a bit as a kid. Sometimes we were both the only one of the few African Americans in our area so I taught you know we kind of talked a little a bit about that over email and he was like you're going to love the muse. That's because of that light. He was so he took so much pride in everything he did whether it was. He's he's shoes whether it was his game whether it was the stuffy did after off the court the the the showtime documentary and so on and so forth. I'm really we're going to try to apply that to my life. Don't be mediocre in anything. Always try to be the best I think. And I think it's a amazing lesson that a lot. A lot of people say and very few people actually do Co. we saw we had proof positive evidence. She was actually doing it by what he did. Post career but your point about what we wrote. Kobe doesn't die. I think this is one of the reasons. This is resonating so much. Because he's a global icon. You could argue the most popular player globally. BNB's ever had like you when we look at the NBA Today. And we we. We talked about it Friday four of the starting all stars Cameroon. Cameroon Greece Nigeria via Greece and Slovenia the way okay the NBA just became truly global. Game is in large part because those guys those kids grew up idolizing Kobe. But so there's that that part of it the other part of it is this it makes us all feel like could be us if Kobe Bryant can die in a helicopter crash along with his daughter in those seven other people that Doug had a relationship with and whose lives are just as valuable as Kobe's then there's any of us and it makes I think we all we all know we're going to die but none of us ever actually believe it or I think maybe but that's just me like you know it's true but it's hard to actually believe and then when you see Kobe Bryant died it's makes you. It makes all of us question question our own mortality. The popularity is fascinating. Because Chris. You'd probably test this. Most guys didn't like him when he played in his in his as prime he was not he didn't have a lot of friends in the NBA Laden his NBA career. He tried to start befriending guys and guys like what is the deal. Kobe where he's now l.. He's friendly Kobe or whatever but if you pull the current NBA players he's there Jordan Jordan. Right Iverson probably a close second and and maybe part of it is eighty and live with it. Whatever he's also you know he's going to go down as the last of the mid range guys the last of the ice? Oh guys you know. The he was a he's a very unique figure member he wanted out of. La was going to be traded. And then the you know the Bulls couldn't pull it off and he ends Zev reinvesting again Phil Jackson retirement after ripping them in a book pound. The whole thing is nuts and yet he's gone so he can't. We were left up to tell all these stories so we can do three hours of a show based solely on what Kobe. Brian did on the court. And how few people do we know who could reach the pinnacle of their craft craft. And yet we could spend hours and hours talking about what they did outside of the craft and I think that's what makes this such a unique individual and obviously such the tragic nasty. Yeah I mean again. I think his mental leg is the legacy he leaves for. People mentally is as big as the legacy. He's left physically and you mentioned like a lot of players. Made may not have liked him when he played. Kobe grew up so much differently than your average. NBA Player again in Italy. You Know He. He grew up there and then he was in the suburbs in Philadelphia and So He i. I saw him at least in my relationship with him earlier in his career. I don't know if he was as comfortable in his skin at least in that setting of the NBA because he drew up so differently Jordan. Right can he did the Best Jordan Imitation of any vegas. When he hit the game winner he did the thing and then it only seemed to me he later really post championships without shack that he decided instead of trying to be my best version of Michael Michael Jordan? I'm going to be my best version of Kobe. Bryant and that then turned into also off the court right it turned into winning and Academy Award and doing it was a succession of things remember before he tours Achilles Tendon keep that that was a terrible basketball team that he singlehandedly into the playoffs right that was his and then the year off that he was at that school with his daughter serving lunches and I thought that really it gave him time to think and think about what he wanted to next. And that's when he got applauded this whole strategy about being global financial icon and then he comes back and he wasn't very good but the sixty and the last night in the speech mob bowed. Is it's deteriorate. It's like Derek jeter those those two guys so that's a willow all right well. Yesterday's new sent shockwaves far beyond the world of basketball. Tom Brady saying we miss you already. Koby while Barack Obama said Kobe was a legend on the core and just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second. ACT TO LOSE. Jonah is even more heartbreaking to us as parents Michelle and I send love and prayers to Vanessa and the entire Brian family family on an unthinkable day. A life cut way too. Short I think's I live live from Miami F S One here for Super Bowl. Fifty four between the forty niners in chiefs but today we remember Kobe. Bryant who died tragically alongside light his thirteen year old daughter and seven others in a helicopter crash yesterday. And this was the scene yesterday when Lebron James got off the plane seemingly brought brought to tears by the news of Kobe tragic death just the night before Lebron past Kobe on the all time scoring list a milestone that truly meant the world to him him. Here's Lebron from Saturday. After passing Kobe on that scoring list. When I was a kid in high school I was growing up through the ranks? Kobe came into the League he was you know wasn't a dramatic comes straight from high school at that point in time to the NBA. But I was like wow seventeen or eighteen year old kid being to make that leap. And that's that's pretty damn cool and and as I started playing more ball and I was wondering at high school the things that he was doing on the floor you know admired and wanted to be a part of ABCD camp and he came and talked to all OUGHTA OUGHTA kids. That was there and I happened to be wanted to wanted to kiss. That was there and I was just. I was just listening. I was just trying to soak everything up. I could remember one thing. He said he was like if you want to try to be great it at it or want to be one of the grace you put the working. You know there's no substitution work and I was a fifteen year old kid at that can't you can actually find the footage of a And in two thousand and one I believe I was plan in New Jersey and the All Star game. If I'm not mistaken Yucca. Correct me it was in in Philly right. That Saturday Mia Maverick drove to the intercontinental downtown Philadelphia and he gave me period shoes which I ended up wearing that following night it was the railway blue. Kobe's I was fifteen and he was a fourteen hour in many ways and I'll sit and just talk to offer a little bit. He gave me the shoes. Iraq them in a game and it was the same night that we play. Oak Hill will against mellow and saw what he was able to do the very next night winning. MVP here in Philly. That same Matt Fowler Tonight as I got drafted. I'll still just admired him. You know seeing what he was able to accomplish championships having you know being early in his career where he learned from the Mrs Eddy had against the series against Utah and just use that as motivation and got better and better and better it to him winning multiple championships and continue to do our my school and and then competitors Just seeing in a work ethic the Work Ethic Daddy put into the game zero flaws off and zero. You backed off Omega Three. You take him up a little bit he can go around you he gives. You may arrange. She can post he can make free throws he zero flaws offensively and and that's something mired as well just being at a point where to defense will always be at bay where they can guard you all the way you just like. He was just immortal. Offensively because of your skillset and you're worth we take it down to two thousand eight would become to redeem their redeem team and it was a dream. Come true for me to be able to line up alongside of him just Amarna for so many years and him CNN from afar and then being able to be in practices with them and and you know me watching and learning so on. I mean is this is this is too much the story is just too much. It doesn't make sense. Let's just make a long story. Short here in the Lakers uniform in Philadelphia. Where he's from we're wanted to I I ever met him? gave me a shoes. He also is just surreal. It doesn't make no sense. The universe just push things things in your life and when you when you live in a right way or you just given everything to whatever you're doing things happen organically the interest not supposed to make sense but it just happens and and I'm happy just to be any conversation. We'll call we being Brian. It all time. Greatest basketball players ever play all time. Greatest Lakers the man got jerseys hanging up at staples center is just crazy. Such great insight into how much of an impact. Kobe had a whole generation of players. Again we should mention. This is twelve hours before Kobe. Guide for a yes. He had so much to say about. Just passing him on the Sporran this nick. Let's talk about the impact that Kobe did have a whole generation of other players are one zero zero in on one moment. Because I know both of these guys played college basketball. Doug played a little bit of pro basketball and Doug they will know Oh colby far better than I ever did but one very specific aspect and Lebron mentioned it there the redeem team two thousand eight. So let me take you back to two thousand eight where we are at that point in time Koby. It's the summer of. Oh A and Lebron is becoming Lubrani's Ronnie's just taking his team to the NBA Finals D.. Wade already won a championship more recently than Kobe had Carmelo was at the peak of his powers and the US had just been mortified on the international stage in Oh four and they are cruising through the Olympics and then they come come up against the Spain team. That's been together for a long time. That has pros on it. That really felt like we were the better team. And in that moment in that that fourth quarter of those Olympics Lebron Wade Mellow why Chris. Paul all those guys looked around around and said he's got this. Kobe got this. He's scored thirteen in the fourth quarter of that game she fouled out Rudy Fernandez. who was the other teams? And I I know what seems very specific but you still hear those guys reference that time around Koby and learning from him as far as what it takes to be a champion what it takes in those moments and those are his contemporaries much less young. The Luca's the neons and the guys who came after who didn't get to go honest played them a little bit but didn't really get to go up with all those guts. Well it's interesting. You bring bring that up. Because I think that's part of what Lebron has run into is we want to call it. The Mama mentality or basketball has always been my basketball has always been and the best player is taking the last shot no matter what. That's just the way it is. They always felt that way right. Larry Bird Magic Johnson. Michael Jordan. They never for we're at toby. Bryant never referred and even though probably his most famous play the Games now we check the thought is our perception whether it's reality or now is that he was a closures closer he was an unabashed Alpha. And that's one of the things that Lebron has we'll probably never live up up to because that's not how Lebron wired the Broncos more why has been more wired regards whether the stats nick bring out until you otherwise. He's more wired to take the right shot. Then make sure he's the guy who takes the shot right and that was the. That was the difference in Kobe. And I think that legend only grows with the mob mentality Talapity at how so many of these younger players Jason Tatum. Psychiatry Irving's come to him to study his game and work with him off season from Lebron's who we just saw all his age group down if they look at Kobe Bryant. Kobe had everything that young players would want to aspire to an what they would be impressed by. He doesn't get this type of publicity a lot. He's one of the greatest game dunkers we've ever seen. There's one where he does. In transition decision against another defender behind the back and then does a three sixty. I think it may have been against Denver. I was at mass. Where Garden remember Dr Jay's iconic layup up where you went from one side of the pain like you're saying so the other day I was at Madison Square Garden? We Koby did that against the Knicks. But don't be so that impresses the young people and then you ought to your point the closers mentality we all remember as a young guy. The airballs against Utah but when he we really got it done and I think solidified his reputation as a closer was the two thousand Finals Indiana. His fourth year in the League all right Shack Doc. Was the man on the team game four. They're up to one. Kobe was playing on a bad ankle. He had missed game three with an ankle injury shack foul. How would like three minutes left and Colby hits three bucks takes over as a twenty one year old that solidify no matter how many shots he may have may or missed going forward in the clutch that solidify his place as a closer and that Jenner to that younger generation? That's what they remember about Kobe. And you said you glossed over something and you said you know we all remember the airballs against Utah. I think there's an enormous percentage of audience who has no idea that ever had that in Kobe's first few years or in the playoffs she even as a literal teenager was like no I got it guys and he did. He missed them. I only bring that up. Today's say this for a lot of guys that would ruin them. As far as in those situations candidate Nick Anderson Amidst never never never end so Kobe teen took shots. That by the way. I don't believe to this day. Were drawn up for him. He was just like coach. I got it. Didn't just miss air balled old and still always believed. No no no no this is. This is my shot to take at you. Bring up his first championship in year. Four twenty one years old. You will that same playoff run. He has one of the most iconic plays in. NBA History. The Gupta Shack name seven against the Blazers and people. I guess rightfully look at those three years because shack when the finals MVP's shacks titles but you're you mentioned is first title title to one swing game of the series shack fouls out. Coby carries them the second title year to. He's twenty two years old. He averaged twenty nine a game right in that playoff golf run and scored forty eight in a closeout game of a playoff series. And then obviously third title what he did in the final three games against Sacramento Minto scoring thirty each game. So yeah. He had an unbelievable all-time teammate with shack. But they they don't win those titles with out Colbert Holbrooke but if you asked him and so I had. This is about a year and a half ago. He tax me. We've been trying to get together. Hey let's let's have some drinks at a place called hobby which is down in crystal cove and in near where he lives and we talked about a lot of topics. I mean just really amazing. The I opened like his desire to talk about anything. But you know look. Here's a guy who believed. He made all those shots. You didn't it. Didn't matter of fact actually made a low percentage of them in comparison to others but it was that mentality we had a conversation I swear to God he said You know Mike knows does he can't beat me. I was like out of here Dude Michael Jordan. It's like you used to try to drink so I was like each talk like Michael Jordan. That's because he knows full scale psychological warfare. I totally would do like I was like well how you take Mike. He's like well his dad love. Larry More you're like no you would not say yes full-scale size of a psychological warfare. He he was a brilliant human being so smart. No like you're you're sitting having conversations. Somebody comes up and speak Spanish. An insanely bilingual said the two weeks ago whenever it was that Lucas inbounding the ball. Lucas nineteen years old or just turned twenty. inbounding the ball. And here's someone behind him. Speaking Slovenian Annex Colby Colby S and speaking Slovenian like listen you know his I think one of his greatest contributions to basketball is he limited. The High Top myth high-top don't actually protect your ankles. So I asked about it. He goes man. That's a myth. Just going back to the to the seventies that Congress created created because they said they could protect your ankles more like he. He was literally brilliant and when left to his devices he didn't wasn't drugs and alcohol and it it became about business in about knowing all these things or about a tactician like look. You pointed out he wasn't he did have great games. He was not a freak. He did not have the first step EPA Jordan. You just did but he understood angles and pivoting and fan or footwork. And if you watch if you went to his daughter's practices when when you watch it was an incredible amount of detail put into footwork which everybody kind of glossed over. So he was a savant a bunch of different levels and I think that work work ethic is one of the great things that he's left for younger generation. All right again. The outpouring of emotion the reaction from fans and former players among the many statements is yesterday this from Bill Russell. She and I are absolutely shocked to hear the long of one of my favorite people and one of the best basketball mines in the history of the game. Our hearts and prayers to Vanessa and his girls Kobe Bryant. You were my biggest fan but I was yours. Rest in Peace Mumba. We're back here first. Things I live in Miami for Super Bowl fifty four but plans change. Today we are. Remembering the life of Kobe. Bryant it Kobe's love of basketball transcended his sport as evidenced by Brazilian soccer star Neymar who flashed the number twenty four after scoring goal last night just one of many international stars clearly touched by Kobe. Bryant's and we are now joined by sports illustrated senior writer. Chris Mannix Mannix Chris. Thanks so much for being with us. What was your reaction as you were watching hearing everything unfold yesterday just incredulous like anything else and you start to remember some of the experiences you had covering Kobe? Brian the experienced people told you about the very first memory that came to mind. Got Two thousand eighteen right. The Celtics are playing the cavaliers in the conference finals and Inbetween Games. Two and three. Kobe comes out with a detail L.. On Jason Tatum. And if you remember that there was like a a three day gap between Games two and three. That finals and Tatum said that he watched is that video. Like one hundred times just kept watching it over and over again and as the series went on so coaches would tell me that it seemed like tatum was was incorporating. Kobe's no real time and they would grumble about it. They would just say like. Could you do this in the off-season don't try to change. Your name came in the middle of the conference finals. So Dick Lebron's last Eastern Conference Championship. Some of it has to do with you know it's so it's so so funny you say that because and we can talk about this more later the one of the one of the legends of Kobe and one of the way he'll be remembered is his rivalries awards that he seemed to put aside well before his fans or the. Oh posing fans did the Kobe. Kobe versus Michael. Kobe versus is Lebron. And obviously when you say Lebron like I I have a long history of when you stack those two guys up and compare them statistically being on one side of the ledger but what no one can deny matter where they are is an Chris. Talks about this all the time is the actual players. Look to Kobe in a different light. I don't know if it's because Lebron seemed like someone who you couldn't immolate because so much of it was physicality because Kobe was so graceful so for whatever it was but for a lot of those players and I say this go with glowing respect for Kobe Brian. It was to their detriment. Because you can't if you try to paint like Picasso you're going to have a bunch of splotches on the wall and Kobe was the greatest greatest bad shot maker. Yes ever but if you're not Kobe you're just taking bad shots and so you joke joke like we saw it in real time. I don't think it's joking that tatum. All of a sudden within a series was like Kobe. Kobe could do it. But that's that's why he's one of the greatest players ever. I don't Kyri who left the stadium yesterday and couldn't play in. Love an idolizes Kobe. It's guys guys trying to mimic something. That seems like well if he could do it. Why can't I if he's bigger than Kyrie but he's not that much taller is not that much stronger? Oregon jumped at much higher. What because you're not coping? That's why can't do it and the game coby was able to take all the things was like well did figure out what he could do and couldn't do and build his game from there but that's a one of one historically like your. I can't say it'll never happen again but if it does it'll be another guy who turns into one of the ten greatest players. That's what happens when Michael Jordan. When he played everybody focused on `isolation basketball became involved after or during Jordan after him because guys trying to emulate what Michael Jordan could do and they couldn't do it could hurt their games hurt? The game of Basketball Kobe's legacy impact on the world of sports is unquestionably the killer instinct. And not that he was the first. But maybe because Michael Jordan and guys like that but maybe because technology had increased so much and he had become this icon in Asia Asia worldwide. That others before him couldn't maybe that's why but whether you call the killer instinct Mamba Mentality. I mean. Remember him you mentioned Utah. The air boss but remember him in the All Star game as a nineteen year old waving off. Carl Malone Carl Malone with a set of scream he waves him out huddle needed. I mean that type Saipem in Tallahassee Koby Bryant taken the last shot or later in an all star game challenging. Lebron Ri- ri- hitting after the Brian. You're getting more than a decade now. Twelve thirteen years later like the relentless competitiveness combined with the fearlessness. Is How you you become him. But I wasn't one all star game when Michael walked up to him and said don't do this tonight like this is not going to be just to see you. Try to go get thirty minutes. There might have been my last. It might have been one of the last one insured there on a larger scale. I think the Kobe is as responsible. Oh for the growth of the game. Globally any player ever. You know the nineteen ninety-two. Dream Team is widely viewed as the team. opened the door globally. So you you had some international players coming out of the NBA but it really created a viewership the NBA. It's never seen before and all those young kids while they. I started watching Michael those players in the nineties. They grew up watching Kobe. And in the late. One thousand nine hundred ninety s early two thousands. There was a vacuum for star players. When Michael Michael Left the stage it was Alan Iverson for a hot minute then it was? Tim Duncan maybe Kobe. That people started watching and as the game expanded to different areas of the globe to China with Ming in two thousand and three all across Europe over the decade later. They were watching Kobe Bryant. It was his jersey. They were buying it was him trying to emulate so this global behemoth that the NBA's become today is much Kobe's doing as anybody else. Do you think that is why do you think he had such a global reach more so oh then other players who were equally as way miss if you will you know. It's a great question because I've wondered the same thing because Kobe isn't from humble beginnings ginning like so many of the international players. I think part of it has to do with the fact he was the first high school pro. That wasn't a big like like Moses. Did it Kevin Garnett. Dated other key was the first guard to say. I'm going to go straight highschool to pro. Pardon me and I do wonder right. He asked Darryl Dawkins bill will. He was the first guy that wasn't just like well. I'm big enough all right and I do wonder if you're Joel embiid. Who doesn't pick up basketball to your almost a teenager near Cameroon? And you say okay. Well this guy is turned into. I'm I'm sure he thought the best player in the world came into the League when he was a teenager. I I'm bigger than everybody. Can people say I could be good at it. Why can't I You're that Mannix. Your point to me is as important as anyone that we made over. Three hours of the show is what makes the NBA A to me so special today. Is You have a guy who's going to win an MVP who's born in Slovenia. You have a guy who won the MVP he and his probably about to win another one. who was born in Greece is from Nigeria? You have a guy who might win an MVP. One day from Cameroon and a guy who I know is going to be on your. MVP Ballot Pascal CIOCCI. Who's also from camera? That does not happen. I believe without Kobe Bryant. She's not the only one I'm I'm not saying it's all him. But if you talk about human beings who has had the biggest impact on the NBA global reach. yao-ming is on that short list because of what he meant to the billion a billion five in China. Kobe is on that list alongside Michael Jordan. Like what they did because you talk about the Dream Team Jaanus was not born. Born Luca was negative seven when like the Dream Team for those guys. I'm older than all these guys and I was eight years old. When the Dream Team happened it was is this era that made them fall again and Joel embiid even said yesterday when he was reacting to all of this was watching Kobe those two thousand ten NBA finals? That made him say. Oh Oh I WANNA play basketball. I want to be like this guy. Welcome back to first things first. We are live. Live down here in Miami as we just like fans around the world are remembering and celebrating the life of Kobe Bryant. Who died tragically in a helicopter crash alongside his thirteen year old daughter and seven others yesterday? This was the scene yesterday at Staples Center as Lakers fans gathered to honor their fallen star. One of Kobe's biggest fans was another laker. Great Magic Johnson who took to twitter yesterday and said this my friend legend husband father. I son brother. Oscar winner and greatest Laker of all time is gone. It's hard to accept. Gobi was the leader of our game. A mentor to both male and female players Laker nation. The game of basketball and our city will never be the same without Kobe. Cookie and I are praying for Vanessa. He's beautiful daughters first. Natalia Bianca carry as well as his parents Joe and Pam and his sisters we will always be here for the Bryant. Family here is more more now. From Magic Johnson. People are going to miss his smile and and Just miss him because because Kobe or about in and Jim it was I thought he was going to live forever. I thought he was invincible. I thought he was. You Know He. He played like that he he walked like that he was just a confident. Young Man Jay West drafted him. I remember him telling us when he went one on one against Kobe. About against Michael Cooper that Colby was the next greatest clear. The Plan Z was seventy eighteen years old. He wasn't even eight eight and I'm not. What are you sure Jerry Jerry Right? He was spat on and Kobe's name synonymous with the LAKER franchise. As you know how much nick do you think. Kobe meant to the city of Los Angeles. Oh I the only thing I can compare it to his derrick jeeter New York. Tom Brady to the New England area. I don't even think Michael Jordan to Chicago because it kind of feels like the the whole country took different parts of ownership of Michael Jordan. You have Magic Johnson. There who one would argue that as far as guys guys who started their careers with the Lakers. Greatest Laker ever saying no. It's Kobe Bryant and the way Laker fans and the city of Los Angeles were so protective of him. Like we joke. Can we talk about. Were Laker fans happy. lebrons signed their the reason that was ever even. No question was because of the protective nature surrounding Kobe. which by the way did not always exist like that was was the when the Kobe and Shaq stuff was going on there? Were Laker fans who side. It was shacking. We're angry if they felt koby push shack out. But then over the next decade check aid that the year average thirty five and had the eighty one point game a couple years later when he wins his finally wins a league. MVP that a lot of people feel was long overdue. I do when they get to the finals. And then getting the back to back championships including beating the Celtics. Do he had like seven ACS. I mean you could save the Achilles hitting the free throws would have been his final act but then his actual final act on the court was the sixty point final game. Those are the things that you passed legend into God like status and you still live in Los Angeles. I spent some time out there when the Lakers were at their name. Dear and it was still the clippers could be the best team in the West and the Lakers were scuttling scuttling along route. Two twenty five wins and you go to any bar any LAKER game. You would have to ask them the game on and because Kobe was still playing. It was Kobe's last last year and so I don't think you can associate one person with one team more so than you do. Kobe Bryant with the Lakers. Your point the Lakers got one of the best players to ever play the game come into their team in his Prime Brian. And some of them defaced murals Weiss because the colby because there's no is. He's overtake or compete with Kobe. There is in a positive way. There's this call like following of Kobe fans in La mainly but also throughout the country that they're ready to fight you if you say. Somebody was better than combs. Brian Jordan leverage. How did he get that? He is look magic. Who like you said many would say the greatest Laker of all time? He says it's Colby. And here's why a lot of people would. I'd say it's Colby. He played twenty years with the Lakers. Magic only play twelve with the because of the HIV is career was cut short. But who else could you name Jerry. West only won one title in lost eight. Five claims started with the walkie wilt chamberlain. You know we want one time to play for other teams like Kobe's Laker Laker resume is the best laker resume of any player. And that's part of why he has this like that and in some ways it's completely completely improbable. I mean Chris you know this Kobe's run in. La Was Dirk. Nowitzki is in Dallas. Like pair. Were right or multiple times. He was gone like he demanded. I remember he talked to shack about this. Awhile back it oh four. He actually demanded to be traded. Oh seven I think that was the area almost almost walked to Chicago. Sign with the clippers so the fact that he survived twenty years. Is it probably the thing that I believe connects. The Kobe with the Lakers As much that does he is on a very short list of players that have had one era. One Championship era went through some some rocky times and that had another. I can't think of too many players that went through that. Look at the win. Totals in the middle of those Kobe. Years Thirty four wins. Forty five wins. Forty two wins and Kobe stuck around and was able to build another championship teams. We've seen guys Michael Bill Russell. Go on even Larry Bird going runs on one one era. These were two totally different eras net. Kobe participated in and led with the legs. I think that is forged the connection with that fan base well and he played twenty years. Just pick a number one through twenty and I'll tell you what happened that year. He doesn't make big number any number. You Want One through twenty twelve twelve. She won is beeping. They lose fine. They're back in the finals. But that's right after you're talking about when they're when when they're down I think he averaged thirty game in the playoffs that year. They lose two one. A man is best moments of his life. I assume they lose to the Boston. Celtics engaging bulb years but give me another give me one from early on five. So that's their second title and a year that people forget he averaged twenty nine a game in the regular season. He's An and in the postseason twenty ninety game in both of those and Ooh had forty eight. I think it was that your might have been the first was that year had forty the eight to close out there round two seres forty eight in the playoffs. She was twenty two years old like you can. There's not a year aside from eighteen. I'd have been in bad shape because that's the herbs recovering from the Achilles but every other year there's something to pull from even the years when they were down that's what he ever thirty five five and thirty one. That's when he had eighty one points a game after a few weeks prior scorned sixty two three quarters like eighties. And this is the and this. This is what I am going to struggle with for a long time I. I've spent a lot of my television radio career. Picking at him picking at what. What makes him not as great as Jordan or Lebron or whoever and it's because that well at least that's what I do that's what we do and we're ranking players listing and it's really who six and who's eight? It matters damage and deprived me. I think of until these last eighteen hours really appreciating holy. Look at what this guy did at every we step of the way another draw. We can't overlook with Kobe. Bryant is his game looked good. I mean it was. He was like Michael Jordan. The second I mean the Dunks the grace where wrangler better his game looks better than Lebron and say it's more. He's more graceful. He's he's a little bit way flows through the air and that's a big part of the draw as well because very few players have looked good is him when he does his thing on the court it was a draw for Michael Jordan and this is the most impactful thing you said to me Nick. One time we were talking about Lebron was. You don't have many years you have left with Lebron plane appreciate aide appreciate the time that you have left with him with. Tom Brady the only time that was ever said. Even close to anything was was towards the end with Kobe when you knew it was the end of Kobe plane and it was this. Appreciate what you're going to watch because you might not see something with this longevity this successful ever again and we really haven't for that to that degree well and I in Mannix like that. That's the that's the thing about. Sports is for Kobe his his time is a great great the player he was so great player in your seventeen eight US twenty seven game and they snapped his Achilles heel. Only add one more great moment and that of course was as great of a Mona's there's sixty sixty points in the final game but that's what makes this extra devastating is it did look like Oh. His Greatness Nisa basketball player might have ended a few years ago but what he's now going to do as either a coach with of his daughter as an advocate advocate for women's sports. This was something lost in the headlines last days he said I think there's a few WNBA players who play in the NBA and Mannix. I don't know how you read it. I read that less literal and more figurative to tried to inspire his daughter and others to say there is no ceiling. Don't just say you're going to be the best women's basketball player ever see how high you can climb that mountain and to have that taken away from all of us from those close to him. It's just unspeakable speak with his is. There's so many examples of that mindset. When he snapped at Achilles I remember talking to him and seeing other people talk to him as well about out he really believed he was going to be a better player after the Achilles injury? You really believed that his that his will could overcome anything so we would just take a redshirt year a year and a half or whatever it was and come back a stronger player now. Obviously didn't you can't recall from that type of injury. But the fact that he he wasn't just paying lip service to it he actually. We believed that he was going to be better player following probably the most devastating injury. NBA Player can suffer all morning long. We are continuing to hear the impact that Kobe had had amongst. So many this from Kobe's former head coach Phil Jackson. The crash was a tragedy for multiple families. My heart goes out so Vanessa and the families that lost loved ones. Kobe was chosen one special. In many ways to help people our relationship as coach player transcended the norm. He went beyond the veil. First things first live from Miami beach each for Super Bowl fifty four F S. One is here all week to preview an incredible match up between the forty niners and the chiefs but today we remember the life of the legendary. Kobe Bryant who died tragically in a helicopter crash alongside his thirteen year. Old Daughter. Jonah and seven others. The news hit many around the league. Hard here's Gregg Popovich. After this first game yesterday most importantly appreciate you all went in the locker room. Be Tonight. everybody's pretty emotional about the tragedy with Kobe and all of us know what a great player was but he wanted me on great playing. He was a competitor That is goes unmatched in. Its what made him As a player so attractive everybody. That focus That competitiveness that will to win and even more importantly than that We all feel a deep sense of loss for all of us in so many ways in so many millions of people loved him for so many different reasons It's just a tragic thing that there are no words that can describe How everybody feels about it so We all think about the family and mm-hmm process that they're going to be going through now. That's where it should be. You hear Gregg Popovich talk about his focus. Focus and Kobe's will and his drive. He had such a relentless pursuit for excellence in absolutely everything he did on the court. But you saw it later in life especially You know off the court is well. What was it about Kobe? Drive that enamored so many people don't I just think that that will to win. And but it's one thing every guy says they WANNA win right every says I want to win but who is actually willing to put in the time and put in the effort and improve your game. And that's what he did. He he was very Jordan light in that he went from being a driver by to make himself into a an elite perimeter shooter to making himself into a post up player. We had the Kobe Fade. Hey defender to he was. He was a great defender and he was he was adult right. He was just a great defender. I'm GonNa Guard your team's best player at the end. The game name which is what kind of basketball is always about right like baseball. The competitor leader always play shortstop and basketball. The Alpha takes the last shot. God is not afraid of missing and guard the other teams best player and that's who Kobe Bryant was which what's fascinating about is. That's the opposite of Jelly Bean. Joe By like he was this data right well no NBA player and then he played overseas. But he's seen as a guy who never really lived up to his potential right whereas Kobe. got every bit of juice Out of that orange. I don't think we brian is nearly as athletically. Talented Lebron James or even is Michael Jordan but he has been as successful as anyone since Jordan before Lebron or even more success in terms of championships then Lebron and I think it is that work ethic and that's the that's the Mama mentality which has now become embraced which As we all remember when he played it wasn't right he was selfish. Like gained seven against the Celtics when they won their last title was a disaster for him shooting the basics forty four I mean. He can't firing. I can't missing. Ron artest really helped him win the game but but it is. It's the will to win one of the things. He told me I had along with him sharing drinks and he said you know what wallace powder salt reputation for. He came to play for like soft soft. Spain soft goes to solve to win two titles. That's right and I think that's key demanded that of his teammates. He made no apologies for people out. It ran ran his best coach ever in retirement. Nearly got got check check got sent away nearly got him traded away but that was who he was he was wired and focus soup shipped to get as much out of himself and teams as possible and made no apologies. One of my favorite colby stories and this illustrates how much of a drive he had. He's in high school. I believe I believe he was a junior but he was either junior senior high school. And he used to work out with the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers John. Lucas was the coach. EAT HALF CO become in practice. Play Open Gym with the guys. And all that. So Vernon Maxwell was oil in the seventy sixers EH times. He wanted a toughest guys in the league touch he would go Jordan. Nike would challenge Michael Jordan physically. Okay haven the blues in their hero. Right one of the guys who can really check Michael so colby as a high school doc ID plays Vernon Maxwell one or one again. One of his guys elite. They're tied at nine okay and they get in each other's face face and they're arguing about to fight and John. Lucas just called off. The game had to stop it because they were gonNA fight and they didn't finish the game but that a high school kid it would have the guts and the audacity to challenge a guy who was just below an all star level in Vernon Maxwell and wanted a tougher guys in the league. League just illustrates. How much of a drive in the confidence that he had all magic talked about this when they made magic decide to draft? Kobe was a seventeen year old Kobe. Bryant going up against Michael Cooper now Michael Cooper admittedly was forty but it was a grown man who was a great defensive player in this league. Like that's what he was known for and gave him the blue chips. He Michael Cooper couldn't check seventeen year old Kobe. And that's what may Jerry West say. Whatever it takes we're GONNA get this guy and they you know he made? I mean I think you could make the argument. All things considered one of maybe the greatest trade in sports history post. Yeah Post Babe Ruth Vladivostok's with respective for Kobe Bryant in twenty years of Kobe Brian and five titles in seven appearances but what made him special on. The court is what we were seeing making special off the court. which is what Doug lose to? Everyone says they're hard worker. That's like the number one. Buzzword is a hard worker man most people are not most people do either the bare minimum to get through the day or just just enough to look like. They're working a little harder than they have to. It is delay rare breed. That is actually are hard worker. Kobe models is game. After Michael Michael Gets to one level doing that then says hey and key Malaysian. What can you teach me about footwork? That'll get me to the next level. Oh this this guy from Germany Dirk Doc League. MVP got this one footed fit. Why don't I incorporate bad and took that exact same approach you mentioned it when he blew was Achilles Kia that year off to kind of plot? I'M GONNA play for a few more years. But what am I going to do. And he had a plan and he drew. I'm going to figure out how to make movies movies how to do venture capital. I'm going to throw myself all in to whatever I'm doing and that part is inspired and that part is something that as you said we all can learn from that if you truly want any shock greatness at anything the level of focus it takes perfect. Sometimes we lose sight of where we list accomplishments but at least in the last year or two what you saw from Kobe as a father the dedication he important to helping coaching his daughter. What you saw on the sidelines with him at Laker Games? You should do this or pointing the fingers in the laughing. The effort that he poured into being a family man at least in the last couple of years were so heartwarming. That that's also. What makes this so tours? Achilles your utilities Achilles. The daughters were in school with with his Jonah and he was there all the time serving lunches. I think that that really changed. And then and then putting together I it was Mamba Volleyball and then it became for older daughter then basketball for for Jonah and he took a great a ton of pride in it to other players. Tragically died In in in the accident as well but he would send not just me other Basque videos. Check out what we're doing within triangle. You know we're evolving it or teach them how to pivot how to pass any. It's it's it's a fascinating tale right from the Jerry West making the draft day trade too early on the air ball in the playoffs to winning championships. The break-up Shack obviously all the stuff that happened off the court and then on the cord or fill goes way phil comes back but I think the bigger thing is he wasn't well liked socially really awkward. Maybe a little bit too smart little bit too worldly for the NBA specially post your remember. That was when we're trying to cut back on the hip hop hip hop the perception of the NBA. David Stern put in the dress code right. He didn't fit their now. You fast forward to forty one years old. And he's the most well respected as he's always been an light former NBA star and now he passed away to your point. I mean we saw him grow up in the spotlight like he was what seventeen in eighteen when he came into the League. Chile was thirty seven. He literally grew up in front of our eyes. And you could see the growth and maturity that anyone would have from the eighteen to thirty seven. Kobe Bryant like we've been talking about all morning so much bigger than just the game of basketball among the statements this from Dirk Nowitzki the on twitter. This is hitting me really hard. I will always remember coming home after game so I could watch you dominate the fourth quarter. You inspired so many around on the world including me you will always be missed. You will always be remembered. You will always be loved. Rest in peace with your Angel gee-gee deepest sympathies to Vanessa the the girls and all the friends and families of the lives lost today. It seems almost unfair fair that he was taken from us. Oh soon way too soon. Before he had a chance to do his second third fourth. Act that we all thought Nick we've been paying tribute Jacoby and his life for our entire show today. I want to give you a chance to give us your final thoughts. One of them's very personal. And the other I think can apply. I saw more of the personal one is i. I feel personally guilty for the manner in which. I've always discussed Kobe Kobe. Because he's such an icon and he was always involved lived in these some real some media created rivalries right. It was Kobe versus shack. And you picked aside shotgun. Kobe versus Jordan. I I know people might not believe it but I I was Jordan. Kobe versus Lebron. I obviously was a Lebron up to and including little. Do any of US know ten hours. Twelve hours thirteen hours before this tragic accident when Lebron past him and I couldn't even manage just to you know send out the tweet congratulating the Brown without a little bit of a big because it was a friendly sports rivalry but in building one person. We very often or very often tear someone down and you just find in in your head. Bollywood sports they're all nobody really unnecessary. And then he's gone and you look back on the career when you say this is one of the greatest athletes ever. This is someone who's on the court resume rivals just about anyone and was building something off the court that may was maybe going to rival or surpass any athlete off the court as far as winning the Oscar. And what what he was going to build and it will it always affect me and fans who never met Madam because of the power of his ability as personality in the way he handled himself especially this last phase of his career life and I still would. It says coby Bryan on the screen broussard. With the years it's simple to me doesn't feel totally real that we are talking about Kobe. Bryant in the past tense. Now Look I'm with you for your first statement about being critical of Kobe. That's the analytics age. Analytics looks at Kobe. Bryant's career and he wasn't that efficient. You know he shot the mid range ball and look. I don't care what your analytic six say. This guy was one of the greatest to ever do it and ten years from now five years from twenty years from now Dole put on. These guys is with the great analytic numbers ahead of Brian. All right this do was the truth period. Secondly I think I've full faith the NBA will handle this the right way and whatever they do will be great and I will not be critical of them. If they don't do this I would love to see them retire. You're both number eight and number twenty four nine talk to anybody with the NBA about this. I don't know if they're thinking about or it hasn't crossed their mind but league wide. I I would like to see them. Retired number eight and number twenty. Four Major League baseball retired. Jackie Robinson's number. which obviously he for a different reason but the NBA NBA? You've been making the point all day all morning Nick we have seen an NBA superstar. Pass away like this in the prime of of his life at the listen everyone that's ever won. The MVP is still with us except for wilt who died twenty years ago when he was older Moses who died suddenly but recipe's recipe's Moses was sixty and now koby every other one in VP's still alive so there's a solar so I think I think that's appropriate to retired tired Kobe. Bryant's number I'd love to see the NBA do it. And I just WanNa read one quote from Showtime specially did in Twenty fifteen. He said there's a choice that we have to make people as individuals if you want to be great at something. There's a choice you have to make. We all can be masters serves are crap. We have to make a choice. What I mean by that is there are inherent sacrifices that come along with that family time hanging out with friends being a great friend friend being a great son nephew whatever the case may be there are sacrifices that come along with making that decision and the absolute fool unfairness of this is Kobi knowingly made those sacrifices believing I'm going to get that time I'm back on the back end? I'm GONNA throw myself all into my daughters lives. I'm going to do all these things. And that's what he was doing. And that's what a lot of us were. We're really highly motivated group. People do it will all be worth it and you don't always have that time at the end and have that stolen from Koby we from his daughter from the seven other innocent people on that plane. It's unspeakably awful and for those close to your heart absolutely breaks explore. It is so well said crisper start. Thank you very much without a thing. That is going to do it for us here this morning. 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"Boys and girls welcome to another edition of the business of Sports with Andrew. Brandt workers ended as always always buy Bet online dot ag online sportsbook experts. They're the exclusive partner of podcast. One sports net use the Promo Code podcast. One received the fifty fifty percent sign of bones today bet online dot. AG quite a podcast for the music. You hear underscoring us from San Brand producer extraordinaire and of course my son John and I'm Andrew Brand I'm GonNa talk to Howard Bryant Howard from ESPN ESPN DOT com all about this cabinet workout and what went on enduring it and what has gone on since this is from the source. Howard was there at the workout in Atlanta talk to the pro cabinet supporters? The Anti Cabinet people that were there air and of course saw it all. Go down where it was moved from the NFL sponsor. Location of the Falcons facility all the way over to the other side of town much closer to the airport airport. By the way we're cabernet killed his own workout we'll go into all the machinations in that in the future and whether cabinet will ever be signed by an NFL team some interesting insights from Howard Bryant of Espn Dot Com and ESPN the magazine. Who's a fascinating read Novelist Book Writer. Someone I've talked to a lot On the PODCAST. Before Howard Brian. Coming up I rant about some news that just surfaced as record this on Thursday November twenty. First I in the much ballyhooed helmet swing by myles Garrett he appealed first of all I think the reason he appealed understand because law and appeals. Heels are all about precedent. There doesn't seem to be a precedent for an independent indefinite suspension for an act on field. One No matter what the act was. We haven't scene indefinite suspension. We saw a lengthy suspension for voluntary perfect but he has a history of violence on the field and that is not applicable. A couple here because myles Garrett doesn't have that history of suspensions and things like that so here we go myles Garrett has his appeal and the news is that comes out today from Adam Schefter. Via's peon is really a bit shocking. And it's something that's certainly drawing a lot of attention attention to try to give my thoughts here. That Mason Rudolph who was the quarterback who had his helmet pulled off who got a fight with myles Garrett who people thought should have been suspended because he kind of interested in trying to get myles Garrett helmet off. I is being accused of using a racial slur. How is he being accused of? That will evidently in the appeal hearing Maoz Garrett and or his attorneys told the NFL. That's what happened that this was a response to an inflammatory Statement obviously about racial slur. We don't know if it was the N.. Word or something else and of course we've got a statement from miles. I'm sorry Mason. Rudolph attorney saying it never ever happened. It was reckless. And now we have some Phil Pittsburgh steelers going on record saying they didn't see it here at. They believe their quarterback that it never happened so so here we are. What do I think well? I don't think it's safe to say it happened or safe to say didn't happen People know what goes on at the bottom of these piles in the middle of these fights. There's heated comments made. Maybe something was said that could be interpreted as a racial slur as I said we. I don't know if it was the N.. Word or something more direct or something less direct or something that could be misconstrued as a racial slur. I just look at did that film. Of course I was asleep but look at that film of that fight. There's bodies in there is people in there. They were steelers that pounced on there as well. We never heard about them hearing anything like that. Of course. They were supporting their quarterback. So all of this goes into the fact that we now have a plot twist on on this big fight will find out soon about myles Garrett and whether he gets the indefinite suspension beyond this year which. We don't know how long that will last or something shorter. I think probably go through the end of the year and then maybe the process brings it to an end after this year and he starts fresh next year. But we'll see and again. I guess my only comment here is there's going to be inflammatory reactions to this is going to be all over social media. And we're gonNA hear about this. Whether or not their denials myles Garrett can have to answer to this and talk about it. We're GONNA have microphones played. What did they hear talk? Talk to people around there but the bottom line is there's two sides every story and then there's the truth in between peers. I guess to be one of those situations now describing anything to myles Garrett or to Mason Rudolph but we have one player that believes he heard of racial slur. We have one player. WHO believes he? She said nothing to that effect and we know in the middle of that scrummed down there. There were probably things said beyond just fighting and not talking. So I'm guessing we have interpretations and again none of this is black and white. It's gray so with the gray area. We have this thing happened. That's my reaction to this so I wanted to get that out. There is going to be a lot developing after a record this about that. We're GONNA hear different sides of the story make your House Garrett eventually eventually Mason Rudolph his through his attorney saying nope didn't happen in. Its reckless for them to be accused of that. So we'll see now. Let's get to capture for Nick Because I think the story resonates I have talked about as I did throughout this podcast gave a whole rant on the podcast last week about this workout. That turned turned into a private workout. You know it sort of begs the question why capper. Nick never had a private workout on his own rather than the NFL setting it up. I wanted to get someone who is right on the scene in who really is a voice on these matters has been talking about cabinet writing about him for three years. That's Howard Bryant the eminent writer from ESPN the magazine and and the author of course on various TV shows it is p. n.. Someone I enjoyed talking to so Howard Brian from ESPN DOT com and ESPN the magazine. who was at the scene and of the workout and has talked eloquently insightful and thoughtfully about capture? Nick is my guest so without further ado new Howard Bryant of ESPN ESPN the magazine Howard. Great to have you as always in you were there. You were there at the workout Saturday. A at the Atlanta Falcons facility of course move to another location later. You were there for the cabinet workout. Take us through. It takes US inside the workout. The machinations that went on between the sides the NFL lawyers cabinets lowers the failed waiver signing. Give us a picture. Take US inside what happened. On on Saturday well nigh thoughts were I flew down to Atlanta on Friday and When in with this went into this with certain understandings about what it was going to be there has been no media access? We're supposed to be at three o'clock on Saturday out at flowery branch at the Falcons facility ability and so I had been mobilizing my plan to figure out okay. Well what am I gonNA get. If there's no access into closed practice. What could I possibly produce deuce? Why am I even hear that question? got into very quickly Saturday morning I go out there. I get there at ten o'clock which was about five nine hours before the workout was supposed to begin and already care were supporters and protesters out there and so there were three people out there who didn't support Kapernick. They were to people who did. And so. I did my eleven ten sportscenter hit and then immediately when I turn my phone back on there was a text message from a member of cavernous campus in Palmi Asap in. That was really that first conversation afterwards. Right at around eleven twenty eleven. Thirty was the first inkling that I was getting that. You know what something might be going sideways here by noontime. I'd gotten another call saying these negotiations aren't going well and what was happening interesting by that. Time was where there were three anti-capitalistic tapper nick protesters there. The number of people supporting Catholic head swelled out to fifty people and so it was really really interesting on opposite sides of the street things supporters on one side and the protesters on the other and they were just being hugely outnumbered. By one o'clock it was about a hundred and twenty people and Cabernet Cabinets fraternity either cap is. were out there and they were. They had go be shown up from all of these different locations on motorcycles. And everything else and it was really sort of interesting it was interesting socially to watch it to see all of these people on one time supporting according even then you've got these committed guys in the other but it also made me think about something else Andrew and it was how we deal with this standpoint. If it had been in the reverse I if there had been a hundred and fifty people out there against capital that would that would have been v story and especially when workout got moved. There were another two hundred people down at the Charles drew high school in Riverdale. And so if you had had three hundred plus people against him came out in full force. That's what we would have been talking about and it bothered me in some ways because I was thinking. Why isn't this support allowed to be an asset? Why aren't we talking about the fact that he actually does have support when we know that if he didn't it would have been priced at every? NFL executive would have used to say even no matter how much we liked him if he threw the ball. Johnny United this is simply just too much. Opposition can't take the risk and so that was a very interesting thing to see on on the ground firsthand by by one thirty one. Forty five the sources that I had had kept telling me. Keep your phone on Excuse me and keep your phone. Because something's happening by fifteen. It was clear this thing was going South and by twenty five. I received a phone call from member number of Catholics camp. That said here's the new address. Please pass it onto all of cap supporters. who were there? It's not going down and what was happening on the ground. While I was getting those text messages was you could see all the caravan of executives who were going to showing up for the showing up to the work they were are coming in all the different teams supposedly all twenty five teams according to what Conversation I had with the NFL today. All twenty nine said they were going to be there were there and then. Suddenly it didn't happen okay. Let's get to that so you're in touch with the cabinet camp. First of all towns me me as a lawyer. That's worked on both sides players and team that a this was held by the League not a team not an agent b. e whatever we'll talk about the waiver and the conditions and all those things but not buttoned up before Saturday Saturday right so what we're doing is something that just sort of you're saying they're negotiating and they're not getting done and there's obviously disputes. But this was still in play on Saturday hours before the scheduled workout. This was still in play as late as two fifteen ten minutes before the Cochran Ecksteen sent in a text message to the NFL lawyers the NFL office. Who by the way their representative was actually actually at flowery branch and gotta texted and says couldn't get it done? I talked to both sides on this in. What I was told was because I asked the same? I'd asked the same question with something. This high profile was something unique. But something this tense this much animosity nasty. But that's my history. Why would you go into this without having a deal nailed down? Why would you have a rolling negotiation up until the day Eh and part of the reason from what I was told on the? NFL side was that they thought speed was of the essence. They thought that it was interesting. And that were alrighty at week. Eleven and that this is you know that that let's do this the way we do this any other player you know you don't you don't stretch it out to a two or three week invent you just call the player in and you do the event and and yet they also acknowledge that this is an extraordinary circumstance. So I said well you. You can't really have it both ways can you can you. Can you treat it like any other player. But then also acknowledged the extraordinary nature of the situation. It just didn't work worked both ways of the capital team viewed the speed of this as an intimidation tactic. So you had to remember the bad blood that you've got here relationship wise sized whereas on the one hand the NFL is saying that no we thought speed was better. It benefited him. You've got the cabinet team saying there's no way speed benefited us it. It sounded like you were trying to rush us. Push into a corner to accept something with conditions. You knew that we couldn't accept. Why Howard? Why do you think I think this was happening? I said at the outset been around the league. Twenty five years never ever not once seen the league hold. An individual vigil player worked out hundred times by agents hundreds of times by teams every year by the League for three hundred college players but for an individual player. Why is this happening? Yeah my feeling that this is my feeling is that this is happening because I I I I feel like this was a sheer force of personality. Power moved by Roger. Goodell I think Roger Roger Goodell is recognized and I don't know if this is true or not but he's really the only one or somebody in his camper somebody after in the league. The office decided. But you know what I don't know how long I'M GONNA be in this job or however long I'm GonNa be in this job. I don't want this to be a legacy question for me. One of the things that I've been hearing over over and over again from the cabinet campus. This was dead they gave it CPR. They called us. So that tells you world at this called really came out of the blue somebody at the. NFL had decided that this was something you know. Talk about the feather in the cap to get this done on however when you listen to Jerry Jones quotes in the Dallas Morning News the other day you when you read those close very much. Sounds like the cart before the horse. How on Earth could did you put this in motion without getting buy in from the teams and you know like you talked about the speed? The hurry way to me. Where's the fire? No one's GONNA sign him in two thousand nine t no one signed for three years and all of a sudden it has to happen on a Saturday in November. When could have happened in on a Tuesday when teams are used? Used to work outs could have happened after the season around the super bowl around the combine. Get them in the program for Twenty Twenty I. I just don't get it I mean where's the fire on this we're whereas whereas the fire and no question about that no question about that and maybe from what I was told by some. NFL sources that there wasn't naive tae involved in that And now you've paid being the speed an I'm interested in signing and this is where I think the. NFL story tends to fall apart a little bit because they they know seed on this suddenly there was it was zero to one hundred type of move. It wasn't as so I mean no one had spoken to Colin Kaepernick in any sort of official capacity since the summer since July of two thousand seventeen when John Harbaugh and Colin Cabinet had a conversation And that was the last time in. NFL executives spoke to cap two and a half year two and a half years so to go from there to this and that doesn't even include the fact that you had a collusion settlement in February and the last time that the two sides had spoken in an official capacity was in February when the collusion settlement was reached. So so let me let me segue there. Sorry to interrupt the we have a collusion settlement. Settlement February's you reference. I'm a lawyer to me. A collusion settlement forestalls waves releases the NFL from future litigation nation. That's not what we're hearing now in that the waiver proposed on Saturday is something that would have released future litigation but I thought the collusion settlement. Do you have any insights on that. They don't and I'm trying to get those insights today Because I when I was on the phone with the with the NFL with one of their attorneys told me was. We had no idea none that you were going to you. Being the cavern at camp or that the average person could infer that that that waiver if that waiver claimed anything more than injury recovered anything anything more than injury on the other hand when you look at the two different components of that of that waiver the first paragraph where it talks talks about as a condition of employment or potential condition of employment and then to the paragraph in a paragraph seven. We're talking about you know any and all direct or indirect indirect. The those two things open up one question which is sitting Colin Down you the post workout interview and asking him point blank. Are you going to kneel back reopened the whole thing at least from the the debate that I've been having or that I've been told is between the NFL PA and the cabinet camp the NFL. PA says no kneeling has already protected so no one was going to ask him that question. Anyway the cabinet camp says well if somebody had asked him that question and he said yes of course I intend on kneeling and then that information gets out to all the eighteen drift. Any of the teams decided not to sign him then. Suddenly you have eight an actionable offense. Yeah I mean it just seems like can you ascribe that getting the waiver signed as a reason. What have this workout? Well I don't think so necessarily in the reason why I mean it could be like I said I I. That's not my area. I know that what I've been told by. The caffeine at camp is absolutely. That's a possibility absolutely that is a scenario and as lawyers. Here's we have to be prepared for every scenario. Even if that's not your intention unintended consequences happen all the time in the the. NFL's position is. That's that's preposterous. If we if if if a waiver claim like that was going to be we've got to protect us from collusion we would have done this two years ago right so you can't look at it that way. There's no that the intention of doing this was to have a reconciliation to try to get calling capita back on the field. That's that's what this was all about anything else. They rejected but three years. No teams so no teams they also send something thing else. Andrew that I thought was interesting too. which was you have to accept if we're GONNA talk about bad blood and we're GONNA talk about acrimony animosity and all of these other things that you have to consider the fact that we even open the door here that we've offered this as at least some sign of good faith and the point that they brought up up to was in two and a half years Yukon Cap? And you're team had never put on an open tryout either. You could have done this yourself for the last two and a half season. Then you didn't and you could have gauged the interest by hosting public free workout for anybody who wants to see you play and seeing throw and you didn't do that either. So this is another reason why people are questioning your desire to play and why we're talking about they're not you. Were actually serious about this weekend as well. Let's let's focus on that in our remaining time in terms of the the issue of does he wanNA play. DOES HE WANNA be a martyr. Does he want something beyond pure football. And I know you've been asked this I saw on. ESPN answering bring it about sort of A. I wouldn't say defiant attitude. Maybe you would call it that after the workout when his head and and the question is hey if no one's calling you for three years and you're really trying to get a job. A agree to the conditions they have for the workout and be be solicitous be demure B.'s. Almost submissive in your answers rather than defy it thoughts on that certainly and I think that I think that Colin Kaepernick. And you know this as well as I do as well as anybody paying attention to this he is such a mirror. He is such a reflection of where we are in this moment in time. Both nationally and individually and the the intellectual she will or philosophical conversation about whether or not to wear an inflammatory antagonize t shirts. Whatever essentially a job interview is is one thing and that is a good conversation to have maybe not to call any of us have made? Because we've never probably had that level of leverage took to potentially undermine ourselves like that that's one thing but the anger that people have had that he did that speaks to something else and the point that I see when I hear that. Is this idea that this is what we have to do. If you WANNA work worked for these guys you are an employee. No potential employees would do that. Who Do you think you are? Why do you think you could get away with that? And that is sort of a AH confounding an angering point that a lot of people have had where it's like well. This is proof that you're not serious. Who would who would sabotage themselves like that? My position on that is a little bit different. I look at it as we had characters all throughout sports. Jim McMahon was a character You know we've I've seen this. Wallace was a character. Draymond Green Dennis Rodman. We've had all these different wacky guys in the game who have had their politics or had their personalities. He's come out in. The world kept spinning. What is different about this? So different about this is it's black advocacy and it's black defiance. And and it's the subject matter. And it's so polarizing that you have this combination one of African American assertiveness which people don't like and to sort of this this balance this sort of anger of the balance between being an individual and being professional that okay. Even if you take the individualism individualism and you push it aside. It's not professional to antagonize potential employer. And that I I completely understand both of those elements but the point that I've tried to make is is that we know that Colin Kaepernick has support. We know that he can be an asset to a lot of folks we also know that the NFL is making an example of him so therefore my question has been what the NFL and what this story really need. It's a maverick at need than Al Davis at need somebody to just say you know what the world's GonNa Survive with you and your politics go out and throw some touchdowns downs for us and everything's GonNa be fine. The world will keep spinning I usually I. I've made the Dennis Rodman analogy. Why is Dennis Rodman in the hall of Fame Right now? Dennis Rodman the hall of fame because Phil Jackson's daddy and Michael Jordan and said we got this. Dennis can be dentist. He's GonNa be a great asset to us but he's GonNa be himself and it wasn't. My goodness was eating into submission because he didn't conform. He's still did his thing he's still gonNA check. His hair. Looked like a parrot every other game and he went out the thing. Why is this so disqualifying people I would say this? And this is a little pushback and I know but I'm not a scout. You're not a scout. We don't debate arm strength and movement skills and but he hasn't been a starter and no teams looking at a star. And everyone you've talked about in the in those examples bulls is a frontline plays players and I will put up with that Malcolm Jenkins etc for frontline players. But they won't put up for backup. And whether back Tim Tebow or Michael Sam or Colin Kaepernick. So there's the rub and it just struck me that you we saw it firsthand. Eighteen of the twenty five teams couldn't be bothered to go across town to watch him throw not only could they not be bothered to go across this town but they couldn't be bothered to go to the airport where they were flying out of because there's football field is right next to the airport. It was ten minutes away. Yeah I heard the new location was right right next to the airport. Right you have a new location was with the airport is in the same county. It's ten minutes away. They call it Atlanta airport but the airport is actually in Clayton County Alley which is where the football field was and believe ten minutes apart. So we're kind of where we started. Aren't we in tell me if we're not which is number. One kapernick hasn't waved his full rights. Whatever may becoming doc ever litigation wise and number two no one? No one's interested which is where we were too. Well Andrew I take a tiny bit more An a level of optimism in terms not optimism in terms of something that something's GonNa Happen for him but in terms of the actual story and movement. Well the one thing we do have is. You do have video right now. Is that no matter how we got there no matter who held the workout you actually do have footage of him dropping back and throwing. Footballs the professional level receivers. We do have that now so if somebody wants to get past all of the noise you know after a game or whatever they can sit down with their with their the glasses and sit and actually watch and see what they think. That's something that we didn't have a week ago today whether it goes anywhere whether anyone's actually looked at the footage Jeff Molly caverns agent Senate to all thirty two teams the day after on Sunday. That's another story but we do have something we do. Know if you are a talent evaluator you actually saw him. Throw a football and you can make a decision there last question in in trying to scratch our heads on why this happened. I I know we come up with some good theories Casey. I mean I've heard that theory that I mean for people don't know this relationship between the NFL and Jay busy when it happened. I said I get it for the NFL school. He's got cachet. He attracts an audience. They want but for Jay Z. I'm like why is he doing that. And he got pushback push-back that he didn't make supportive comments Colin Kaepernick. Is there anything to that relationship that precipitated this in your mind I think so. I don't think there's something to it because how to relationships get made. I'm I'm sure got a phone call was made between Jamesy and Roger Goodell and somebody you just look this would be. This would be a good gesture. High risk gesture absolutely big upside absolutely big downside. Absolutely but how do things did done. I can certainly see envision. Scenario where Jay Z is calling Roger Goodell L.. And saying. Listen I came in on your side here and I'm getting demolished by the black community. Something someone's gotTa try something and I think that what they did. I think that the entire notion that you could just treat Colin capital just another player to avoid the circus just to avoid. The distraction was a huge miscalculation. If that is to be believed. I think there's no way I said the minute you put on cabinets name on the free agent arrival list whether whether it's an individual team or whether it's an entire league workout it's going to be news. I think they had to deal with the fact that it was going to be news and just accept the fact that it wasn't sent a sideshow people. Keep calling circus and everything else. It wasn't it was it was a gathering you had a couple of people that didn't support him. You had a whole bunch of people who did it wasn't a riot. Nobody was yelling. It was just a whole bunch of people gathering to see something which actually when you think about it is is good for the League. People people were interested in this man. Did you get to talk to Hugh Jackson or any of the people that were supposed to run the workout. WHO DID NOT Travel Jackson? We weren't by by the time we were allowed to go into the facility area because we have been outside of the fence from eleven o'clock to two o'clock once the door once the doors whereas opened up the gates opened up for us to go in. I stayed outside because I was getting text messages from Collins. People saying something's up so I didn't WANNA have my car parked in all back. In in case there was another location so I never got a chance to go in and see anybody. And then of course Hugh Jackson went straight to the airport and left bottom line think he ever played in the NFL. I don't and the reason I don't think so is because cooler heads have have yet to prevail. Nobody has cut through this and I think the only way this is going to happen is if somebody decides to be a maverick and as you were saying are we mavericks rex for players. who weren't frontline players? I disagree with you from the standpoint that he's not a frontline player he's just not a frontline player. Now we remember we were saying the same thing thing about Michael Vick. Oh He's in prison for you. Know football for years turns turns out he was a frontline guy after all. I just think that we decided or that. The machine sports in the NFL has decided he's not a frontline guy. But there's a lot of people don't want him to be a frontline guy who knows you can come in get signed starter. Goes down there the same way Kevin Cobb did and there you go and Colin Kaepernick Christie's daughter again just don't know but somebody's gotta be the Maverick. If this is is going to happen in this call and have to give a little bit. The question is how much does he have to give in order for people to say. Look as the forward face of the franchise. We want you. You were going to accept you to be that guy with all the follow up. That's GONNA come with it. Would Colin Cabinet play the XFL or Canadian football league or does he see that. I think so. I don't think so I think the pay in the NFL too bad. And I think that the XFL probably doesn't pay very well either. And I don't think he feels like he's got a qualifier. I think he's he's like I belong in the NFL. And I'm not GonNa play me and I went so many you guys have been to a super bowl I mean how many of you have been to three straight. NFC Title Games. Yeah I'M A. I'm a packers former employees. Heff seen him as Kryptonite with that team. No no he what he did ended up in green tea. I mean he's he's a special talent but once again it goes back to this question in as a lawyer. I think you know this better than anybody. each side got to give to get to the Middle Right. You gotta give something and that something has not yet been reached now. You've you've talked to both sides. You talked about texts from both sides. NFL side and cabinets. That is the relationship beyond repair and European. I don't think so and the reason why I don't think so. It was because we're talking about two different relationships is their relationship between in tax lawyers in the NFL lawyers beyond repair note because their lawyers. They always talk you get. That works is their relationship broken between in Colin Kaepernick and Roger Goodell or even really have much of a relationship before that so in other words is could everything change if one owner comes up into say I need the Guy. It's the bengals called up and said hey we need a guy or Daniel Snyder Washington. Yeah then all of a sudden the relationship is twenty nine other teams or thirty one other teams it may not stand him but if that relationship changes so he's back so I I think the only way you can say that the relationship is dead is if you believe in collusion is if you believe that they all decided in lockstep. They're not GonNa do it if you think there's somebody in the league that has an open mind then things can change but let's also also not forget. He's thirty two years old. It's not gonNA last. It's not gonNA last forever. And I think people are sort of rightly or wrongly jumping on that that what he did against the packers and all those great things you talked about our ancient history right now And he's older play but we'll see I mean again. David tepper signed Eric Read. It could happen. It could happen and it could happen in a way that it and also it could happen. We've seen different types of stores and we've also seen where the game is going if you look at the fact that five of the top off into inches of the NFL. Or run by black quarterbacks in there all that meat option. It's not dead after all that you need an athlete back there and you need somebody back there who can play in the adjusted modern game. The question is going to be. Are we gonNA talk about him as a football the Paul player or are we going to talk about him as something else and also in. Who are we going to allow to be? The measure is the measure going to be eh the two guys with signs that say stand for the flag or the measure going to be the fact that he does have support and and someone everyone is willing to see whether or not he can play. As you're GonNa get the Michael Vick treatment where okay you get three and a half four weeks of hard protests and then life goes on in the go home and you play football or don't and I've said this couple of times our last question if he sat down with an owner gem and that owner. GM asked asked him are you. Can you be all about football. And we're not gonNA have any now again. The kneeling question is different. But can you be all about football and this is not going to be a statement in this is not going to be a movement. What do you think his answers? I think the answer is why. Are you asking Benita amputate myself. Why is it so important it goes back to that thing about advocacy in obedience? Wind it so important for you to tell me to imputation why. Why can't I be myself and still be all of it? But why are they. Why are we splitting down the middle and if I were an activists from Greenpeace or climate change would you be asked making the same ask of me? What is this really all about? And I think that is an excellent question and and I think it's a question question that needs to get turned around to the person asking. What is it that you don't want him to be? And why and that's the reason why he's such an inspiration for so so many people especially for so many black people who feel like you do have to amputate every single piece of yourself just to make it in this country. That's why he's the inspiration that he's not necessarily early willing to do that. And of course that also makes him the frustration with Stephen as of the world and all the black professionals out there that I know are like this is what we have to do. You know different. Yeah and I just think that hunters them and it's not it's not right but these these owners GM's four backups backups especially they want nameless faceless guys that folks some football because they're just not nameless faceless guy you should've never called Colin Kaepernick in the first place because he'll will never be nameless buffet. Well that's if you're already worrying I've gotta get into right right if you're at the stage of talking to him. Yeah beyond that. Yes that's correct. That's right Howard has been great taking us inside the pleasure and taking us All through these insights some perspective that only you have a really appreciate it and once you as a regular guest on the businesses sports podcast. Yeah colony thank you so much really. Hope enjoyed that thoughtful and insightful interview with Howard Bryant all about the cabinet workout the cabinet machinations between the lawyers. What happens next if he'll get? 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Remembering Kobe Bryant

The Free Agents

29:00 min | 6 months ago

Remembering Kobe Bryant

"Well we have our emergency podcasts. For the worst possible reason Late Sunday night. We just got into the Knicks studio hair. I'm sure I'll you know Kobe. Bryant died in a helicopter crash today with this thirteen year. Old Daughter Order. Jonah also killed nine people total in the helicopter Crazy but you know. We've obviously had all Sunday afternoon. I'm sure you guys were watching. TV and seeing the you know the guys colleagues still with task of course former colleagues and those guys trying to wrap their head around this which is honestly is. It's it's doesn't feel real. I think that's fair to say you don't want it to be real of of course But now that we've had a little bit of time here throughout the day. Whoa what what are you even say to this? I don't know I. He was looking to with stunned silence at my fine just sort of refreshing because I saw come through. TM xenia thought. This doesn't feel right but it's coming from they. They legit account. And so you thinking like this is you sometimes see the celebrity deaths that a hoax is for whatever reason and just kind of thought that was gonNA eventually come mount someone saying this is a crazy stupid report. Nah that never happened In fact just went the other way more and more reputable sources kept reporting it and Very tough just to. It was stunning. It was stunning. There's only been a few moments. I think in life with something like that's happened. Michael Jackson dying. Probably the last time where it was. Just something you just couldn't even though people were saying it you hearing it you're reading it just didn't feel like it was actually happening while he's he's obviously He's larger than Life Right A. He's one of those few guys in the NBA that like impacts not only basketball football players but just the world at large like we got an email just now saying that I named my child. Kobe Bryant Obviously you guys on the floor. who had to play on Sunday or were thinking about the guy who is there Michael Jordan really? And that's you know after J it really. Okay was Kobe's era You know you can throw another couple of names in there but Kobe is the guy that impacted the the basketball world he impacted acted like there's guys like Neymar giving tribute to him today. Only a few days ago Novak Djokovic You know before he passed away was talking about what he was to to him and And to fans out there like he is he is like you bring Michael Jackson. Lee People are bringing up. You Know Princeton Princeton and to that effect and You know we were lucky. Enough to to be in the same auditorium is him and got got to interview him and how people were like chasing him and screaming and yelling and One woman yelling. Kobe touched me and That like he he had that sort of impact And he's just he I mean there's there's just not many people in the world like that and And he's just you you know we can. We can go on and on. I think about him off the floor. And and and this poor family. Obviously yeah. I've just been sick to my stomach mechanically. Since I saw the tweets coming across. I was like leave. Just seemed unbelievable that it had happened and then slowly but surely more and more details are trickling out and reports reports are being confirmed and then suddenly the Games are starting and you're seeing tributes all around the NBA. It's like you can't get away from Kobe was such a huge part of the NBA. Even having been retired for what four years basically you can already see the elder statesman role. He had taken on the what he meant to the players that are currently in league. Some of the guys obviously played against them. Since it was recently the Kobe was still a player and others like trae. Young are obviously very close to Kobe. taking the court wearing his uniform. They have He's even trae. Young has had a bond with Kobe daughter who was on the helicopter as well. And it's just it's just very sad added it makes you really realise how quickly life can be gone and how important it is to enjoy being with the people you're with when you're with them. Yeah I mean look it. It's it is it is crazy to me. I keep going up Kobe. Bryant's dead and then and then I go. Oh my God. His daughter was in the as it was in the helicopter to. It's it's the double punch to the Gut. Yeah I was. I was flying back today from New York and so I I wasn't maybe living in the moment with the whole twitter trying to figure it out. Is this real or not awesome when I land of course the phone just goes blue like you know. It wasn't just me to. Of course this guy beside me and the person in front of me you could tell everyone's like what what what is this and everybody's like is this real and everybody's trying to figure it out and it was like I've been sleeping so I felt like a dream a bad dream nightmare And then yeah trying to wrap your head around all day it's It's it shocking. It is and you said like trae young. We're number eight. The mavs just recently say they're going to retire retire number twenty four. Nobody Ever GonNa wear number twenty four for the mavs. I think I think the rest of the League is going to do that. I would be shocked actually if the NBA doesn't do that all the teams. Maybe not but it sucks to that you know he was. He was doing for the hall fame. I mean we're not we're Koby speech and the fact that just last night he was in the news to with Lebron this whole thing I would take him. Yeah like like there was so much talk. And and and Kobe's last tweet was basically signed a Lebron handing are handing over the next generation to you. And that's the thing about Kobe. Laker legend spent twenty years. There one everything you know not always like great times with the Lakers. He had his mind and say it. But in the end he persisted and he stayed with the franchise. And and you know when it was all said and done no-one spent more time at the Lakers than heated. And you know his his legacy is interesting because when when you look at the number right that he wore and then the number twenty four that he wore when they broke down the stats of what he achieved in both numbers. It was incredible. Just how identical at all was and and It's just shocking that he's not going to be around the game anymore because I loved seeing him as as a committed dad his daughters all of his daughters he was there practicing practicing and playing and trying to teach moves and coaching. And and you remember. He was disappointed when he's when he's daughters. Team finished sixth. Because you can just you can tell that he you know. Some people took that the wrong way but Kobe was trying to install that work ethic into his daughter. This young age and and I think that's the one thing that's consistent whether you liked. Kobe didn't like him. I think everybody in any sport sport respected he's worked with he was so determined to be the best and that's what a lot of people say. Kobe just worked and worked and worked. And it didn't matter what sport if you if you want it to be at his level. You hit the gym. You work hard and you have that determination. And I think that's why he did. Connect with so many athletes from around the world is the guy that everybody is chasing. Everybody's trying to be like he goes into the two thousand eight Olympic team and guys like Lebron and Wade and Chris Bosh and mellow we are watching Kobe. Just outworking everybody there. Despite the fact that at this time he's already got championships. He's already got an. MVP that kind of stuff and you can see from that moment forward Koby just became even more respected around the League as the guy who is the hardest worker basically since Michael Jordan. This generation's Michael Jordan like you're saying task and defining employer for the generation of guys that are in the League now because they were all trying to be as good as colby was and you know you might not think. Kobe was the greatest in the league at the time but he was still up there. A guy you at least had to bypass to become the greatest in the league. And I don't know I seeing him as dad I think is probably the best Kobe there was to see the advocacy. He had for the women's game how much he just loved getting to tutor his daughter and talk about his daughter and how much she loves playing basketball. That's something that but I relate to a lot and it's something that it's pretty sad that coby got four years of being a full-time dead. It is Rosett He navigated gated that that transition from being a professional athlete to to being a his post playing career which obviously included a lot of fatherhood. Extremely well you know from the outside looking in I. I can't imagine how hard that is because you know. I never competed at that level. I know we're just watching athletes. It doesn't go very well. He was somehow able to channel that that crazy crazy easy competitive edge competitive level that he had into being an incredible dad and And you mentioned about being supporting the WNBA and women's College basketball more. I I love that Jimmy Kimmel Clip That's going around. It's phenomenal about a Jonah. And how she wanted to take over the women's game and how special that is I want to play in the WNBA. She does for sure she the this kid man happy great man. The best thing that has to go out and and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and it'd be like you gotTa have a boy you gotTa have a boy. Somebody carry on the tradition the legacy just like. Oh I got this doc got this I know I hug my daughter. Pretty frigging hard today and I'm sure a lot of people are too because it just reaches so many people and and he attacked not not only did he. Transition transition want to being a father and like from you know from the social media world who the heck knows what's really happening with Kobe Bryant but that's all they posted about and and and not only did he attacked that'd be attacked his his his dreams and his wishes of of being a producer and and writing children's books and giving a crap about would he gave the crap about and really working at it. And so the work ethic like just transitioned from twenty years of being a basketball player to really being and I think they're the competitive edge kind of it kind of faded away in a in the basketball world like he wasn't. He didn't talk trash on twitter anymore but he he's just big up to everybody. He was so encouraging to everybody. You are going to be the MVP to Yannis and to everybody just so much support and and obviously players looked up to him in a major way and he was able to really to navigate that really well and still attack life and and like as former president. Barack Obama tweeted. He was legit on the court. Just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second act and as from from a very special person was a very special words because who the heck knows like you said. It's true three and a half years since he retired and he was able to accomplish a lot went an Oscar and and right kids books and and really attack life with what he wanted to do. He told how he wanted to be more than a basketball player when he retired. And a lot of guys say that but they don't sort of take on something else but Kobe did in these things. You're talking about here with the with the Oscar like he actually really tried his best and he put him put himself in a position to to back up his words like that and it would have been so easy for him to take a cushy Media Media Job coaching role somewhere. You know. He didn't need the money but he needed that stimulation. That basketball wasn't going to be able to give him any more and he wanted to try something something else ad in a in a different field and just had incredible success with it and you know he Again when you when you see transition into dead Kobe. That's something that you know. Some of us can relate to where you see like he you know he had some struggles as a deadlock. All of us through where it's like you know sleepless nights and and kids drive you crazy. But he was always there and determined to make sure because he missed out on much being a player that he wanted to not miss at anymore now that he was no longer. You know the guy who was committed to playing basketball for a living. Am I going too far saying like when you got the tax the tweet it felt like someone in your own family. Take your immediate reaction to it. Did to me and I don't know that that's just because of what the nature of what we've done we've made a basketball show for what near in fifteen years now. So he's an entire basically entire career. We've been watching his fans and then before and did the spiralling into the show. It's like you know we don't have a real connection with them. We did the video with them. And All all star weekend. You're right task. I was so much fun. Hawk hilarious task trying to get Kobe. Do apologized for scoring eighty-one against the Raptors But you know we didn't like we. We're talking to Kobe him on the show all the time stuff like that. But he's just because he's the one word guy it's always talking about him and and we talked go on forever to like. I talked about Kobe. Bryant in middle school with my friends I talked about him in college with that set of friends. I've talked about a lot with you. You guys since then. I had group texts this past week about. WHO's the greatest of all time? Michael Kobi or Lebron your. We'll never stop talking about Kobe. Bryant but we've been talking about him he's been part of our lives for twenty five years. Yeah definitely hits hard. I remember when he was first drafted and he came into the League. And I'd heard about these young guy out of high school athletic. I Don. His Dad used to play. This is ran ninety. Six Ninety seven so basketball at that point still wasn't mainstream Australia so you you know you saw clips on the news or wherever. I'M GONNA think. Geez pretty pretty athletic. This guy is like he he sort of looks like Jordan young Jordan there but you know a lot of guys can do that in the first couple of years. Will this guy be able to live up to it. And then it wasn't until the finals in two thousand against the Pacers were actually sore on that on the big stage him step up and he was only twenty twenty one then maybe twenty two but he like all of a sudden. This guy already is delivering the clock in the playoffs in the finals. On the road for the Lakers. Like we might actually have the next Jordan and had the Kufra. We looked cool. He was big he had he could throw down those dunks. He could hit the big shots but he also seemed to have that like. I'm way better than everyone else on the court. You know he had that swag and which I that something like that or like all today you heard every talking head saying the number one thing is like the competitive nature right. You just worked harder. This always blows my mind. And it's like all these guys in the NBA to make it to that level. They are working everybody else to get to that level but even at the most elite level of professional basketball there's another level level for the very few that these guys who've worked. Trust me harder than anyone you know to make it there in the first place or even going like. WHOA no? That's different. That's crazy crazy to me when you think about it. It's one thing for us to be like that's crazy but like they're they're they're and tasks point that's why he's been able was able to succeed away from basketball immediately as well to the just the drive to be the best at what he was doing. I saw a tweet from Jeff starts. WHO RUNS IN STREET CLOTHES ABOUT OUT? it's like an injury database. He was talking about an article. Brad for Baxter homes with doing on Cobain who say I WANNA I wanNA double check these injuries here. I got forty one. Sounds like a lot over twenty career to miss. Time for forty-one injuries the real number one hundred and forty one. Kobe played through one hundred and forty-one injuries while he was playing in the NBA. That's like insane. The guy took free throws with a torn Achilles. pinching it together so it wouldn't fall apart so you could actually walk off the court. The desire to be great and the desire to be mentioned ginned amongst the greatest of all time is insane for Kobe. And that's why we talk about him so much. Yeah and hopefully his legacy will be the Not Not just basketball. But I think he was. He was on his way to really affecting The women's game because he was Like as Rebecca Lobo tweeted today. Rebecca Lobo said No. NBA Player supported Wnba or women's college basketball more than Kobe attended games watched on TV coach next generation. We pray for his family family and I think he would have swung like whether you know John would have been a WNBA player. I think he would have swung it to to even bigger heights. I think that would have just been part of his legacy and hopefully it continues that way other legacy other than his three children which obviously will be a a huge part of it. I I just think that he he wasn't done and that's the sad thing like there was a lot more to be had other than his plan career. And that's that's uh-huh yeah I mean I saw a lot of people tweeting. This idea. Chris Mannix is one of them. You know I wonder what they will do it all star weekend right around the corner in Chicago. I think Chris says team Lebron. Maybe they're all wearing number eights and team is all wear number twenty four. That's that seems like a no brainer to do something like that You know a lot of people love that idea but yeah I I keep coming back like. We're not gonNA get the Kobe Hall of fame speech. We're not gonNA see the statue. The Kobe statue was him. When valiente install like those things like you put all that work for the twenty years and then it's like just taken from you like that in the helicopter crash? Yeah it's it's it's one of those moments where you try to find the right words but it doesn't seem that they're out there really you know it's just it's a feeling and it's an emotion than and It's you know we're GONNA go to bed tonight. Wake up in the morning and heart that this is not real and I It's funny remember Ten years ago I was just started working at the score and I was building a World Cup feature on the soccer World Cup and I was trying to get any stop. Plaza could the Lakers are in town in Toronto. So obviously everyone's trying to get Kobe Bryant and eat any didn't do any media before the game. After the game the Lakers lost but two points cubby. Cubby missed the game winner. That would a three point of the given the game and he missed that and In the scrum afterwards. Obviously everyone's just waiting for Kobe and he talked about it talked about the game he wasn't he wasn't Dannon. atty answered the questions. Yeah missed the shot or whatever Blah Blah Blah and afterwards. I was just standing there with the mark with the cameraman. And I'm like well. This says mom shot. This is my shot. Koby is right here if I want to try to get him. It's going to be right now and I just said. Excuse me Kobe. Something like that and I said I'm doing a feature on the World Cup of news time in Italy. Can I just ask you goes like Yeah Sherman and so Ryan Stratton was the camry. Get that Cameron right now. Right now and I just blurted leading out like five crazy questions to anything Bailey on the payroll at the school wasn't really sure you're not supposed to the Kobe. Great athlete did you ever try soccer. And he's like tried to be and then I said I was talking about Italy. I said what immediately edited. They got a chance he said Yeah. They're they're chance yet. But I'm going for America of course and then I said give me a score in Italian for the final. What does that mean said like USA neo was five nil and thanksgiving? I came home to to Roxana and I just like walked in the door. I said I can't believe I just got Kobe. I got him I got him. I have no idea has going to turn out. It's blurred some crazy. He stuff at him but he answered it and it was probably only ninety seconds but to me it was just like Oh my God i hit the Jackpot and At fortunately similar similar with us when we got him at all star weekend early days that Phoenix. Now there's two thousand ten Dallas Dallas. Yeah we're lucky to get him and a and very much likely I mean he. Kobe was extremely gracious but he had a young task smells yelling. I mean I was yelling yelling because it was extremely loud in that room but also because he had literally hundreds of screaming fans yelling at him. So even though I had a microphone in my hand and and it's supposed to take in your voice and amplify it. I yelled as loud as I could because I thought Kobe couldn't hear me. He was gracious basis. He was very very gracious. He was he was calm and handled my stupid questions. Not The Russians are stupid and dumb questions for sure. He handled them very well. I'm surprised he could hear what I was saying. I just nervous so sweaty. There was little it was February or January. It was freezing in Toronto. I was perspiring heavily in the locker room and I said this recently I think here on the podcast which is another reason. This is so weird. It's like when we started the show back in two thousand six. Fix You know. Mid January will the Kobe goes for eighty one against the raptors. Like a few days later I mean it was probably like the second thin show. We then we're talking about uh-huh percent right which is sort of just surreal Yeah no IT'S A it's a it's it sucks has no other way to put it. It's so sat is just damned. Damned depressing is what it is do you have. I mean just because we're like I like this. I'm glad we're doing this because talking to note and I don't I hope people are digging this as well but do you have a favorite Kobe like game or moment or like what will you when you. Somebody says Kobe ten years twenty years from now. Where will the angle right away? The first Kobe thing that I ever liked was the two thousand six playoffs against the sun's where he's part of the huge steel on Steve Nash. Half Courtney gums down and he hits the game tying shot with point seven left in regulation and it's like a floater. That somehow goes off the glass. Despite the fact that he's on the baseline I was like I don't know how all somebody makes. That shot let alone makes that shot at that moment of the game in the playoffs to send it to overtime like the touch. Just the fact that he had every single shot in the bag was amazing and onset over time wins the jump ball dribbles straight to spot straight to the Right Elbow pops. The game winning jumper from the free throw line pulled the jerseys of the side. This this was in eight days. And that's when I was like Koby's undeniable. He is undeniably great right now. Hey that's like a movie is exactly ran. It's quite like ushering assuring him. Yeah come right to your spot. Hit this perfect shot and make sure you hit your mark. You'RE GONNA WANNA be right on that ex- We got the shot set up for you right here and he just drains. It was awesome. Yeah that could be. You could statue. I think for him standing on the there's the classic on the thing with arms out Scott it definitely the jaw lower jaw out. I think A game or a moment. Well it's game. Four from two thousand finals against the paces shack fails adcose to overtime and Kobe hit three baskets in overtime in the last one is like a put backwards so it comes from underneath the backboard and sort of tipped it over his head. And then you're seeing being run over to the Lakers benches the pace call a timeout. and Kobe's got the Zaragoza Dan I got this. I got this again. Is Like this guy's twenty one and he's and he's composed already and they went three one up in the series and that was their first championship and Again a bit like like brought trailer saying like all right. Kobe's legit. That was the Miami familiar whereas like okay. This guy is is living up to the hype is going to be pretty exciting to see just had good. He can be when he was. The news broke that he was retiring and stuff like that and we were getting the goodbye. Kobe year there half year. Whatever it was like we were doing like top ten lists on the show and stuff like that and I remember? We did like the top ten games like Kobe Games. Like how much fun. We'd had like debating where everything goes and like what does it make the list and stuff like that but you said like there's definitely the one that team for like you said of two thousand finals. You got the game. Whenever says the sons the one thousand tons more obviously the game where he hit twelve threes guy was the one that he was not an amazing knocked down three threes in a game and an random January two thousand three game against the Sonics? MSG Sixty one the sixty two versus the mavs in the three three quarters which was wild and then of course eighty-one rappers tons on and on and on and they're so awesome. Eighty one for me because I never saw another human do it in the NBA and then no one wilted in the sixties. Obviously to one hundred but You know the eighty-one was special. Because it was it was Kobe. You know Kobe at its best I it was also sort of his downfall. The fact that he shot every single time and part of the reason why some people didn't like them but You know when you look back jacket the Waco played. Some people just can't do what he did even if they're miss shots some people just can't shoot that much. It's a little bit of the Russell Westbrook scenario that we that we're watching today and eighty one man. No one's done it so crazy that happens they were down onto the. I mean it was definitely getting some points there at the end when it was under each round win that game but they were down eighteen like in the third and he caught fire the the massive second half in that one obviously eighty one. You're going to have some massive ads for anyone. You had a few moments against the raptors to it. Actually there was a game in Toronto. Remember is another one where he had a big one at forty six after he said. Listen I only come to Canada once a year WANNA put on a show and it felt like he did that. I like that that it did mean something to because that was like Jordan type thing where I know that the kids in the stand this is the end again. They're ever going to see. I want to remember it and I and so we had that chairmanship quality about him. You know he he liked to put it on and you know in the All Star Games as well particularly those early years he liked he liked to show off in those those. MVP for sure. Speaking of that. This I remember. I found this quote when we were doing the whole. Kobe was retired and stuff. And I think it's just so perfect Michael Michael Rosenberg of SL. He said the NBA is appealing for two fundamental reasons. The artistry of the game itself and the personalities of the stars nobody of this generation honoration epitomised both like Kobe. Bryant spot on on the Lakers through like on the biggest market the biggest thing you know. That's that's the other thing to ought to live up to. That sort of a market is very very tough but he did anything else guys. I mean this we again. We're coming in here late on Sunday night will let us one. Of course breathe here on Monday. We got the. We'll get back into the swing of things. Don't you worry with daily podcast and stuff like that. And we got some specials coming up to But anything else to add. I mean I'm glad we did this. I am actually. I'm oddly feeling better than when we first sat down here. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just smiling and talking hoops so these guys and thinking about his his career Assad is at all is it. Does it brightens you up a little bit. Yeah I loved his final game as another the thing that it'll always stick with me the warriors were going for NBA history. They were going to win their seventy third game that game that same night and nobody cared. Everybody was watching Kobe. Take fifty shots even remember who he played. It was the jazz. Nobody cares about that either. He took fifty shots scored sixty points. You might think yeah fifty shots who cares sixty points. That's Kobe Bryant man. That was what a way to go out. What a perfect way for him to go out of the NBA taken as many shots as he wants it scoring sixty points and he joked about it saying you know people are telling me like like you shoot too much on tonight shoot? They started really hot too right like he was really efficient. I I if I did see the step right early in that game in that game. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. The jets had a late to in that one. Didn't I and yeah places going in the show. The three yeah. Everybody's obviously respecting the legend. And giving him you know another half foot of space as well just shots up a two for sure all right so Yeah we're GONNA call there. I mean look our deepest condolences or obviously going out to Vanessa the entire Bryant family. Everyone everyone the Lakers Lakers organization N._B._A.. In general but Yeah that's we'll we'll you'll hear from us a little bit later this week.

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Kobe Bryant, remembered

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Kobe Bryant, remembered

"What's up open floor globe this Bengal with the Washington Post? I am joined on the other line by Michael Pena of SP SP nation. Now Michael. We are speaking on Monday morning. Of course tragic news hit on Sunday Los Angeles Lakers legend Kobe Bryant and his daughter Jonah. Who was thirteen? Thirteen years old. Were both passengers in a helicopter that crashed near Calabasas California which is about thirty miles or so north west of Los Angelis both Kobe Bryant and his daughter. Jonah passed away as did the other seven passengers of the helicopter of course. Kobe was sort heard of legendarily known for flying the Kobe chopper around. La To beat traffic both during and after his career It's a horrible tragedy. I think that that speaks for itself. Michael I'm curious. I mean first of all. I'd like to ask for some bandwidth you know and some understanding from our listeners. We're trying to pick up the pieces after this. You know huge news event. I just like everyone else. I don't know about Michael but I'm running on very short sleep. It's been emotional High Stress Twenty four hours so bear with us here for a little bit scatter brained. If we're all over the map but Michael. I thought we would start sort of with the remembrance of Coby Okay Bryan. We'll dig into how you heard the news and what the reaction was around the league and everything else but I think just right off the top. What is your number one? Kobe Bryant memory memory from his career. Twenty years with the Los Angeles Lakers number four all time. NBA Score Five rings to finals. MVP's two Olympic gold medals. There's so much to pick from. What's your number one memory of Kobe? Bryant Man Ben this is it's it's so difficult to pin this down to just one thing I mean I grew up a some know this but I grew up a celtics. Fan and Kobe was especially once the Celtics started to be relevant and competitive in the late two thousands. Kobe was public enemy number. One and I I did not like him at all. I'll say that upfront Is this a case where public enemy number. One actually under sells it. I mean I feel like the animosity that rivalry specifically made made him the most polarizing guy in the sport. The most hated guy in Boston. I mean how far can we take this for sure I. It's it's tough to go beyond that at the time and from two thousand eight two thousand ten I mean I yeah I did not like him at all But you know looking looking back on it now. I mean I had so much fear. Every single time he had the by did not want him to shoot you know. Even in the six hundred twenty four game might did not want Kobe Bryant to shoot the ball. I was petrified of him. I exhaled every single time. He passed the ball or subbed out of the game. He was terrifying lying opponent. And that's bad news Michael because he liked to shoot and he urged shot early shot off and I don't think you're too much during his career where you're kind a hold your breath for twenty straight years. Yeah that's exactly that's exactly right And I mean doc rivers said it really well. Yesterday he was was just such a great opponent. And you know. I can't speak for Kobe or anything like that but I can. I would be willing to bet that his two thousand ten championship championship over the Celtics meant a lot more to him. Personally than the two thousand nine one over the Orlando Magic. It was just that it was a great rivalry It is forever lodged in my brain for a euphoric reasons and impossibly painful ones and You know speaking just in the context of basketball which is obviously not what we're here to discuss entirely That's what I kind of pops into my head. Just when I think about Coby O'Brian and and the different dimensions of who he was as a basketball player. Yeah if I remember back to his retirement tour I believe he did say that title was the most meaningful of the five for him because of the the heated nature of the robbery and I guess the revenge factor as well you know I have an interesting Prism on this. I think too because growing up in Portland Oregon. I mean the Lakers were sort of the the hated rival as well You know it might not be that same level as the national rivalry of the the Celtics and Lakers. But man you know. Big Market Small Market Hollywood versus hometown. I mean all that stuff was absolutely at play for Blazers fans growing up I did actually. I had another kind of layer to my relationship as as kind of a basketball fan with Kobe. Brian Brian especially early in his career. Because I was like personally offended. Anyone would try to be the next Michael Jordan right of course when we're all out in the you know the cul de sac doc or on the street or in the gym shooting turnarounds with our tongues out wearing twenty three in games. Everybody wanted to be the next Jordan right but I always felt like Kobe was just taking get too far. You know I I was such a devout Michael Jordan Fan. It was like he was this impostor who is this guy Who deigns to be like Michael Jordan? Wisey see challenging Michael Jordan and the All Star game doesn't he have respect for this guy and I think as his career evolved. He shed that connects Michael Jordan. Label fairly quickly I think the fact that he had the Shaquille O'Neal partnership was one step towards that I think You you know. Just the the longevity factor of how long he played canopy gave him his own lane as well And then you know. Of course Kobe was just. Kobe had his own personality. A It really came through with the Black Mamba Mentality. Stuff that You know he kind of pained his entire persona on late in his career. And that's really when I came around to Coby I. I moved to Los Angeles during his last year. And I was thinking yesterday how it like time in L. A. is all like you know. It's like before Kobe and after Kobe. It's like BBC at a D. right so it's like my first year in La was Kobe's last season. The retirement tour and I was completely transfixed I mean for years I had been kind of killing the Lakers overpaying on his contract what are they doing you know. Don't they realize that he's post Achilles adult they realize that he's not as efficient efficient as it used to be east shooting his team out of games. He's standing in the way of his teammates developing. But when you get down there and you understand the cult of personality. The size of the Lakers fan base the fact that he could go for forty and they would rather than anybody else take shot You realize you're kind of of in a different spot and I was just captivated more than anything by his personality. I think my number one memory of him well might have been depressed conferences where he was alternating tornadoes between like three different languages Italian Spanish and English at the drop of the hat and it was just like. Oh my God who is this guy like. How many professional athletes in America are able to to converse fluently with international media members? You know no problem whatsoever and make jokes and and like you know get positive reactions in three different languages but I remember the All star weekend in Toronto. His last all star game and remember he had been kind of giving all these tributes and and various things during his retirement tour but at all star weekend members of the foreign media came up and presented Koby with gifts right and this is like a huge breach of protocol as a media member. Not supposed to ask for self eased. You're not supposed to Ask for autographs. Certainly you're not supposed to bring like Italian soda. Unlike Fan art with Koby wearing like a Camo and you know swinging Samurai swords as like a goodbye present to Kobe and I was struck. You back on that moment because the APR people right there and they did not step in and it was awkward. And we're all kind of looking around snickering a little bit. Like oh you know. Don't these reporters quarters know what they're supposed to be doing. Kobe was so incredibly gracious In that moment he was just absolutely beaming and it was sort of like the. The League was allowing him to have this moment of global embrace On his goodbye tour whereas like hey these these reporters were almost stand ins for the millions of fans that he had in China millions of fans he had around Europe and Asia and everywhere else. who were sort of saying goodbye to him? I thought it was just a really touching moment. Captivate that kind of captured his impact on a lot of people. I mean love him or hate him. You know Kobe Bryant was the Kinda guy you love or hate it. He pulled emotions out of you. You there was not really any way for you to sit on the fence about him and he knew it and he leaned all the way into it And that's why he's you know perhaps APPs the most beloved La sports icon ever. And I think that's why at forty one years old. His death is so shocking in so stunning adding to people he had that personal connection in a way that very few athletes do. Yeah all that's really well said in Ben I mean my his last season was also so my first season actually covering a team. One specific team is a kind of like a beat writer. Hey what I mean Michael. Don't we judge it all in Kobe years in La 'cause you were in La there briefly so your your first year was Kobe's last year. Is that right. Yeah and so I can only speak to who who he was. During that one season it was from the most bizarre NBA season. I mean it was a hell of a way to cover a a basketball team. It was just you know from the Ngelo Russell Nick Young to just Roy. Hibbert Metta World Peace Lou Williams the characters in that locker room. Stop Right there Michael. Was it a basketball team or was this just the Kobe Bryant show because I remember it as being like Kobe Bryant and yes. He has teammates. But Not really. You know no it was all everything was catered to its Kobe that year. It's like come on like He. He didn't practice. There was still like no resentment from the teamates he made. Everybody knew what they signed up for that year. It was like should we develop the young guys. Now it's all about Kobe like his thirty seven years old is body's breaking down. It's all about Kobe. And and you know watching from afar I can understand why that was ludicrous but when you were there I remember like I think it was. It was In early January game against the sixers and this was the this was the process sixers so this was just. I can't even remember a single player who is on the floor for that team off. The top of on my head and staple center was sold out that night and it was like a Wednesday game like Co.. I don't know how many any points Kobe scored. But he did play and there were. MVP chance and there were Kobe chance and there was not an empty seat in the house and to contrast asked that with you know we just talked about John and his debut and how we were disappointed. PELICAN's fans for not showing up like at my respect level for Laker fans hands just went to a completely different area of the Galaxy when I attended that game and saw their love for him and what he meant to them and again I just want to go back and say like I can't I can't Look at Kobe from any other perspective than the season that I was up close with them And whenever you asked him a question and a post game press conference. I'm glad you brought up the the the multi lingual how he just went from one language to another as definitely as he did but another thing about him in those press conferences. That was so memorable to me. Any was every time you asked him a question not every time but at least for me he made you feel like you were it was just like you and him in the room and he was just speak he was he would stare straight into your soul answer the question with like such technical precision like it was just it was honestly a joy I learned so much that year ear from him just hearing him talk about basketball Waiting forty five minutes after games by his locker with just I mean you can't even imagine agean cameras the cameras that were there the you know. Everyone's bustling and and jostling to Kinda get a question and it was just like a sweaty sauna of postgame walk around like those those memories I will never ever forget. And that's the thing I mean. He was almost like this religious icon. His fans were devoted to him in a way that very few players kind of connect and I think the same deal kind of with the media. He was able to just put everybody under his spell and I think his critics despite CEO he was a little bit fake he was Hollywood. He was just manipulating everyone pulling the puppet strings but you go try to stand in his orbit ask ask him a question have him look deep into your soul. Understand that this guy knows more about basketball and has thought more Sort of heavy life topics then you probably we have and then he's going to explain it in very eloquent fashion and then you try not to be overwhelmed by that moment. I was right there with you. Michael I remember asking him a question about Alan Iverson complete throw wages softball type question Because Iverson was going into the hall of fame and this was that one of the all star weekends and Kobe went on for like four minutes. It's about a personal connections. Just telling all these stories and if I was supposed to be recording or or you know taking notes or whatever you can forget about it I was just staring deep into his eyes in like this is one of the greatest moments of my writing career and I think that you can talk to almost any NBA writer and they Who who spend time around him or ask some questions and they would have that exact same experience Michael? I want to ask you though because you're talking a lot about that final season. I believe I believe you were at his career finale. It was so funny because in the days leading up to that I was actually in that sports. Talk Radio position where it's like. I was in Portland and I had to choose to go. Watch the warriors win seventy three or do I go watch Kobe's final game and I basically had my pick sports illustrated with saying you know. Do whatever you WANNA I do and my reverence for Michael Jordan was so high and still list that I was like look. If someone's actually going to beat seventy two I need to be there. I need to to write this capping column to Salute Them. And you know bring back some of the Jordan memories in just witness it for myself. If we're seeing greatness on this level you know Michael I call myself. It's awful wind connoisseur right you know. I appreciate greatness I wanted to experienced personally. And wouldn't you know it. You know this moment that I thought was it's impossible to ever happen to seventy three wins never thought someone was going to beat the ninety six balls and wound up. Being the sub headline. This is the second biggest story of the day because Kobe overshadowed the greatest regular season of team of all time by scored sixty points odd fifty shots dropping. The microphone Just in sort of his entire career boil down to one night. I believe you made the Kobe choice. Rather than the warriors choice in my right I have the option but I did attend that game. Yes and I think honestly speaking like if I did have the option I would have. I would have chosen Kobe. Yeah I mean I boy. What a dummy? I was thirty seven but like you never like the whole season the emotion You know of basically that year but then also just all the other memories that you have koby they'll be leading into that final game. Nothing could have prepared you anyone for what he did. Sixty points fifty shots scored ten points in the last minute. Forty Five I. I actually re watched Large segments of that game this morning just because I think it's one of the most special things and people can criticize it for being inconsequential consequential and it was the seventeenth. Win of the season for the Lakers. So take that for what it is but it was. It was incredible. Like I don't care what anybody says I mean I I remember I remember so much about game but I was I was going back and re read my column from that night and I had this line in there It was A quote one on our before the opening tips staple center felt like a high school graduation blended with the prizefight inside the most exclusive church on the planet. And that's like what it was it was you looked to your right. There was snoop Dogg. You look to your left. There was Kanye you looked. There's Jay Z.. There's Kendrick Lamar. There's shack there's Derek Fisher. There's Lamar Odom like everyone. was there at every single time out. They played commemorative videos Of current players like Lebron Paul George and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving saying thank you to co be. It was just it was. Miraculously you know by the end. Down the stretch because the Lakers were down double digits for most of the game and cope. Who's just jacking up? Shots down the stretch I mean I remember just being overcome with emotion like A. My eyes were watering I couldn't I was so difficult to process what was happening It was the loudest arena. I've ever been in in my entire our life like when the Confetti was dropping just sitting there completely shook I couldn't move like it was it was such a scene and all real quick. All this is for the son of Bob cousy. I mean listen. Growing it's expanding these tearing up at staple center watching Kobe do his thing. Look Mike all say this by rule if you quote yourself on this podcast you're opening yourself up to a lot of potential jokes and wisecracks for me but that line you just put out. There was beautiful. I mean they had summarized it and the reason why I know it was beautiful is because I got goosebumps and I got jealous and started hating myself for not going to that so very well done. Thank you and But I just want to say like the game was amazing of course but like it was the pre-game and it was the post game. That was so so special like after it ends. He grabs the microphone. He thanks His teammates thanks Laker fans. He thanks Vanessa. His wife and and he does the infamous famous Mamba out kisses his fingertips drops the Mike and then the post game press conference you know normally at Staples Center there is a specific room for Post game in pre-game press conferences. And for this when they opened up this other segment of the arena. That is normally reserved for You know like an NBA finals game to accommodate all the media and it's like this giant cavernous room and it was packed with media members. and Kobe's presser was like about. I WANNA say like a half hour long and it felt like it would never end and when it finally did You know I was looking around. In several media members were standing and clapping which is like the Cardinal Sin of sports journalism. And in that moment I thought they were foolish and looking back. It's like almost jealous that I didn't do the same thing it's a it was just such a powerful powerful moment and our top of that people were angry they to get photos with him afterwards. Right I've seen some photos of longtime journalists going to hug him in basically salute him and say thank you for everything again very unusual but also in in out moment understandable. You mentioned how the Lakers only won seventeen games that year. I think for us as writers though I mean they went undefeated. Colby Obi after those games was just on fire all season law and the game was not on the court. The game was in those press this conferences where he is just dropping knowledge and wisdom and basically like test driving some of his theories that was gonNA wind up becoming his post career life right. You know the animation stories stories and inspirational books and the deer basketball note. It was like hey. He knew that maybe he was on his last legs on the court but from creativity standpoint he was just getting started. Did so as like I'm GONNA use these fifteen to twenty minute long. Press conferences after I shoot four for nineteen to just see what kind of a storyteller I really can be and you know like I said earlier. We were all eating it up now. Michael I said earlier. Maybe that all star weekend scene was my favorite Koby memory but the more I was thinking about it i. I do think that there's a strong contender. Maybe that was my favorite memory for his career. But last month Kobe Bryant braci on the to the Lakers vs Mavericks Game In late December at Staples Center. They sat courtside. And anytime Kobe's in the building you know. Since what's his retirement he gets the biggest OV- actions there there is right. I mean he is he is way more beloved and Lebron James. The crowd standing ovation. Anytime he's shown on the Jumbotron traumas just sort of this kind of right passage with Kobe. He was there with his daughter and I was very curious to to just get a sense for her because she's almost become this mythic. Like many Mamba. You know the Mamba. Sita where you know Lebron's talking about how she could grow up to be this. WNBA STAR and Kobe's he's invested so much time in in coaching her and You know setting up these tournaments and everything else and it was a similar personal final exploration for me when I did this story about Brawny James. Because you get these second and I think in her case third-generation basketball stars and they have everything everything at their disposal right. I mean all the privilege all the money all the wealth all the power all the connections that could potentially alter your personality audie. When you're a young kid are available to you? So what does that look like in a thirteen year old Young Woman and the sheer joy She had the smile on her face the fact that she was just almost overwhelmed to meet Luca Danni into posed for a photo with him and of course Kobe. Kobe step back and was the proud down. Wanted to take the photo with the two of them standing side-by-side it was remarkable from from Kobe as a father. But it was also just very telling to me of Yana as a young aspiring basketball player. You could tell there was nowhere on the globe. She would rather be than meeting. Luca Danni in that moment right. And I kept thinking and a Luca's only like six years older than her right. I mean it's it's crazy to even think about that but You know it was almost like she was looking towards him. We're looking towards some of these. NBA players players. Maybe like Kobe look towards Michael Jordan. When he was her age you know and you could just see the generational things playing out and she was so at ease And and had such a wide captivating smile. She was her father's daughter. I mean there's no question about it and you watch some of the highlights of her playing you. You can see some of his tendencies. I know people doing the side by side photos of of each of them biting their jerseys but it did remind me a lot of of brawny. You know it's like I I don't understand how these kids are so normal and so good Given the circumstances that they were brought up there's every opportunity for the for their personalities to kind of go. Oh you know one direction or the other and yet to me in that moment. She struck me as Exactly what I had hoped for. You know somebody who just lived breathed basketball and you know Michaelides. We're starting to talk about the right way is to honor Kobe. It's a complicated question Because it's so shocking. It's so stunning. There aren't a lot of precedents here. and certainly from the Lakers organization. I mean this is going to be something that hangs over the rest of their season. I mean this has been an absolute joy. Reid for the Lakers all year. There's no doubt they're going to devote you know this title. Oh push to him but you could see it with Lebron James's tears coming off the plane yesterday. This is going to hit them very very very hard at all levels of the organization on top of that he was supposed to go into the hall of fame this summer. The hall of fame induction is not going to be the same without him right even all star weekend coming up to me to a certain degree there's going to be Kind of tragic feeling hanging over what is usually a very festive. Event is just not going to be the same and I guess I'm already sort of emotionally bracing for that but I'm also trying to spin it forward in a way and here's my idea. Michael Tell me what you think outside of staple center as you know in a lot of our listeners. Know there's a lot of statues you guys Shaquille O'Neal dunking you've got criminal Dole Jabbar the bar with the skyhook. You've got magic leading the fast break. You've got Jerry West in the logo driving motion. Kobe obviously is going to get a statue you but I think that the best way to do this. If I was the Lakers I would put both Kobe Anjana in the statue. I would make it like the bean and gee-gee statue you and maybe they're sitting courtside and they're smiling watching the game and maybe there are some empty chairs next to them so fans can go sit down next them and maybe feel part of it but I think that had the defining characteristic of Kobe Bryant as a person as a player was his devotion to the game and you can see that and all sorts of different things the Achilles response the final night of his career the five titles even in some of the negative things like you know his split with Shaquille. O'Neal I mean he was just absolutely Louis. Devoted single-minded his view a basketball and he was unrelenting but I think his devotion to the sport came through most purely in his relationship with his daughter and I. I think that's the way that's the best way that I can think of to honor his memory. That's beautiful I couldn't agree any more And it's really I mean it. Just it shows a lot of his his growth over the years and You know this is someone who who else teammates Was a bit of a loner for the early parts of his career. Didn't have a lot of friends and One of his great legacies is is spreading the love of the game to his daughter and to countless others and that is to teach and to encourage. And so I think that would be really beautiful And I second everything that you said about. Just you know how the layers of this tragedy and how it'll hang overhead for I mean the rest of this season share but I I mean beyond that I I think I think they just have no comparison to how tragic this Michael let's Dig in a little bit just days. Yesterday I'm still here in New Orleans I I was preparing to watch my`son Williamson go against your Boston Celtics in an open floor head to head duel. When I heard the news and I had it just gotten back from a beautiful nature walk in the swamp I try to take a boat to or yesterday morning but got rained out? So I'm just kind of you know putzing around my hotel room When I start to see the you know the initial report and working to confirm it and you know going through all those journalistic layers putting together a story get down to the arena trying to find just the initial initial reactions from people I mean the arena especially among the team? Staffers and the media remembers was basically a wake or funeral. I mean that'd be the only thing that I could compare it to. I saw people crying for sure openly. you know players. We're having a hard time you know kind of forming complete sentences or You know fighting through tears as they talk. Same thing with Alvin gentry entry was doing his best to remain composed and Certainly he made a comment that you know there's basketball and then there's real life and this is real life I thought Brad Stevens tributes to Kobe were great. He mentioned how you know. His high school best friend had been recruited by Kobe's dads so we got a chance nice to see Kobe. Bryant play in an open gym at sixteen and his best friend came back and told Brad is the best sixteen year old play. I've ever seen in my entire life and that's pretty much out worked out. He also said that you know Celtics players and Celtics. Staffers were kind of surreptitiously trying to get Kobe. Bryant's autograph You know during his retirement mature You know the the last time through Boston which I thought you know coming from Boston. And that's like the ultimate respect right So you had everyone struggling ogling to sort of put this moment to words to go through the motions of playing a game And that was something that we saw around the league whether it was trae young wearing Kobe. Bryant's Jersey number and scoring forty five points Damian Lillard going offer the Portland Trailblazers named both. Those guys have always pointed to Kobe as kind of major influences or You know guys that they look up to throughout their career But I was just in a state of fog and to be honest the fog has lifted. I mean it's been a very very difficult. Twenty four hour period. I'm curious Michael. What was your day like yesterday And how you doing how you hold up. Yeah Yeah So yesterday there was a knicks nets game in New York where I live and I normally don't attend those just because because You know I mostly cover. Whoever is in town so I get to see for reporting reasons? I get to see the The Nets and the Knicks. Basically anytime I want so I usually sit those out and just kind of watch the NBA from my couch and there was a lot of action last night. So that was my plan and then when I got the news as a as I got a text from a friend of mine. Who's like did you hear about Kobe? And the first thing I thought of was the Kobe was going to come back to play for the Lakers. That's like before I went on twitter. That's like because this person texting me about Kobe. Not a normal thing so I knew it was a big deal and that's what I anticipated when I opened up twitter and then I saw the TMZ report. And like I was this. I was gutted in a way that I was not anticipating at all and I did not go to the game because I just could not be around other people people and so like you. I'm still processing this. It's still. It's still stunning. I was at the gym this morning. And watching highlights from Last night's action. And you know I'm on the treadmill and I see the trae young half court shot that goes in and it's like I'm almost getting choked up on the treadmill it's like it's It's just so much to try to process and you know. I think that some players yesterday they did not want to play. And you know one marcus. Morris was like why we should not have played the game. Some other people made statements about how all the A game should be cancelled. And I I I I agree with that. I think I see the the business aspect of it and you can't just tell fans Who have already showed up to an arena paid for tickets that the game has cancelled? I understand that and you know what we also were blessed with was the the commemorations the as you said the trae young wearing number eight You had the twenty four second shot clock violations and the eight eight second Half court backward violation brilliant by the way I mean just strokes of genius. Whoever came up with those I mean as a basketball guy? I did not even think of that. I didn't even conceive of it and to me that was. I mean that would hit hard. When when I heard saw that they were doing that out? That one blew my mind. That was just beautiful. So if you don't play the Games you don't get something like that and I I hear what you're saying though. I mean it was very very difficult position for the lead to be in especially from the timing standpoint because it's not like they add five hours before the tip off right there. Were these rolling tip-offs on Sunday where some early games and so you can't wanted you cancel all. Is it a case. By case you let the players decide what do you do ultimately I think your approach of staying away and I believe Kyrie Irving did the same thing too right and he leave the arena. Yes I mean to me and I made this point about Kyrie. At the beginning of the season I mean I think that that is an incredibly mature response. If you're dealing with grief if you need time and space rather than going through the motions rather than putting yourself on television where you know you're feeling sick to your stomach or nauseous or just like you don't feel like you should be there. I think that I kind of Tim. I had to carry. And he's in a unique situation because he's a superstar so he can sort sort of do what he wants to do but I hope he's not getting any criticism for that and I think that he actually sent a pretty good message without one. You know if you guys are struggling with tough news like like this whether it's about Kobe Bryant or someone in your family in you need time and space to get through it take it you know and hopefully your employer in in your company will support you on that Grief is just one of those things that gets to you in different ways and I can come in waves. You know it can. It can come and just Kinda stab your real quick nick Unpredictable can change your personality. Change your mood and it's so important to You know self reflect. I guess at that time and for he went through that with his grandfather last year he was very open about the impacts. And I think You know he said a really good example there from the League's perspective. I don't personally have a problem with the fact that they've played those games But I will be curious to just read the reporting here as it comes is out. How was the decision made Where people given the options or anything like that because some teams that took the court just didn't want to be there you know and they said that and they look that way and you know they'll never remember what happened on those courts because they were in a Fox sort of like the rest of us? Yeah one hundred percent I mean regardless regardless of. There's almost nothing. There is nothing that could have happened on the basketball court yesterday. That would ever be remembered beyond commemorating the death of Kobe and the tragic loss of life. Eight others hey. I'm Andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company. He called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience. I had buying razor blades. 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I mean I look certain players you know. Certainly Jordan certainly Bill Russell for me the Magic Johnson. you know would be above Kobe. I think Tim Duncan would be above Koby for sure. I think Shaquille O'Neal Might Uneven be above Kobe And you can go on with other players may be Kema Lajoie on some people would argue will chamberlain cream up dolch bar. I guess I'm curious when you're looking back with what we've described as kind of his major transition kind of going from hating the guy to sort of respecting the guy I to being moved by the guy to grieving his death. I mean what is his legacy. Do you think when we're talking about best players ever or when we're talking about kind of I've icons within basketball. Yeah I mean. That's a tough one. I just I remember just for so long Arguing doing about arguing with people who worshiped Koby Bryant who thought he was Either the best player in the world at any given time or deserving of the MVP or better than Lebron or whatever it may be. And I don't no not like the just like those things seem so Fruitless right now and you know if I tansel your question like yeah I agree with you with basically everything you just said. I think he's one of the fifteen best players who ever lived and I think he'll be remembered numbered for a lot more good and bad That he did on and off the floor and It's just a really complicated. Aided legacy that he leaves behind in so many different ways. There's a lot of good. There's a lot of bad and And on the court he was peerless in a lot of different ways that you can't really. I honestly think that if you are a player who is trying nine two he was either in the NBA or trying to get to the NBA You kind of view. Kobe in a different way than everybody else is just kind of on the sidelines. Watching the game name and so there's no question. Look I mean he might be top fifteen guys who was outsiders but I think among his peers right he is top five and he he might not be free you might not even he might not be four or five right. I mean I think he's right up there. Let me. Was the office Alpha the players player. I mean I think so. Many professional athletes view themselves in the same vein as a Kobe. Bryant right they want to be seen as clutch. They want to be seen as reliable. They want to be seen as sort sort of doing whatever it takes to win And I think even high level all star athletes would look at Kobe. And be like at this guy is different. He's willing to go farther and push his body further than I am like. He's he's he's just a maniac he's got a maniacal worth work ethic. That even stands is out compared to his contemporaries and so I do think he's going to be remembered a little bit differently within a player circles. Maybe then sort of outside outside circles. You're right to touch on the highs and lows of his career. I mean we can't take this podcast without mentioning the Colorado incident The sexual assault allegations allegations and in the suit civil suit settlement. That came out of that When you look back on that chapter of his career I do you think a lot of writers especially if you have spent time with him felt like that was almost like a turning point or maybe the turning point of his career where it's like? He realized he was no longer going going to be like Mike. This perfectly pristine hero figure and now he was going to need to embrace almost villain side of things Or the more polarizing polarizing side of things and just lean harder to like the Black Mamba mentality of. I'm this ruthless guy. Who's just going to stop at nothing to To win titles. And when you score points and and everything else I mean is is that how you view That chapter or do you look at it differently. I I suppose so uh-huh it's obviously a very dark time and there's a victim involved and it's really difficult to talk about and it's it's really difficult to have this entire conversation In the wake of such a tragic event glorifying someone who who was alleged to to do something like that? So I do think that post Colorado Colorado Kobe was definitely Leaning into the Not Not really caring at all what anyone thought about him. I think was the big takeaway from just those years. Afterwards when he was just so antagonizing and Phil Jackson writes about this in several books. I mean he successfully trolled even the Zen master right who arguably is one of the greatest trolls in NBA history and it was like He. He outflanked Zen master. And the troll. Game any yeah exactly. So I mean Phil Jackson basically said he was was uncomfortable during that season and didn't have a lot of good things to say about him so it's it's really difficult to process in the entirety of who he was and his entire life and the steps that he made he does a father afterwards. And I don't like it's just really difficult to judge. You know it's just really difficult. Yeah part of it is because we don't know the full story right Part of it is. We don't know all the details and It is a part of his legacy that is not going away and I think it's a part of his professional career. That cost him an awful lot of fans. Endorsement deals and everything else and I think for some Kobe. Bryant fans fans who would hope the Dow which is not mentioned here You know upon the sudden tragic and just kind of horrifying that he passed You know I think that's that's it's not quite right. I do think it needs to be discussed. It needs to be included in this conversation. Michael My last thought on all this as I was struggling to find sort of historical stoorikhel comparisons you know because I think people. Maybe we're going to like Princess di or Michael Jackson or or comparison points like that for Kobe when I was thinking talking about kind of sports The sports context the name that came to mind for me. Was Roberto Clemente and I just remember growing up as a kid. I used to read a bunch baseball books when I was a little kid. And he was kind of painted like the saint like figure. I mean here he is doing all this Puerto Rican sensation baseball player. Doing all this good work donating time and money to Central America and and You know other Third World countries have tried to improve those communities and he dies. I believe at thirty eight years old always remembered he had exactly three thousand hits. I think he was something like a fifteen time all star. Maybe an Koby obviously was in eighteen time. all-star they're similar ages when they passed Clemente dies in a plane crash. Kobe dies in a helicopter helicopter crash to me. I think that's the best Comparison point that we really have. I mean Major League Baseball wound up renaming it. Citizenship unshipped award. I think after him they inducted him into the hall of fame Essentially immediately and his spirit and kind of memory lived lived on for years and years and years and to this day. Really I mean I think most people have a certain image. If they've heard of Roberto Clemente they know what The name means something to them and I do think as we've just discussed you know. Kobe story is more complicated than that. You know I think that usually time. We'll sort sort of You know beef. Favorable to famous people and it will remember their best moments and maybe tend to forget or downplay their worst moments. So I'm not going to say. Hey that you know. Kobe is going to be remembered by everyone as a saint on that same level with Clemente. But I do think that that is the natural comparison comparison point here and growing up just trying to you know I was a little kid just trying to wrap my mind around the idea that you know such a baseball talent who could have been part of the sport for another thirty or forty years in some capacity whether it's managing her as an executive or scout. Or you know maybe that the head of a baseball federation I I country or whatever else The idea that that was cut short so early just really blew my mind and I feel the same way about Kobe. I mean this was supposed to be a guy who shows up and sits courtside SORTA like Bill Russell or Kareem or a Michael Jordan for decades to come And you know if nothing nothing else we knew that he was going to have his fingerprints and NTSB around ask ball because he was such a mythic and I- conic figure and that's just not going to happen and to me that's the the hardest the hardest part of this process. Yeah the most painful element of death is what could have been in a lot of instances and Roberto Clementes are really good parallel. Well I was when I was in the second grade. My First Little League team was the Pittsburgh Pirates and I knew very little about baseball at the time and So I did a little bit of research and tried to find the best Pittsburgh pirate was who ever lived and it was Roberto Clemente and so oh for a school project Later that year we had to dress up as a historical figure basically and I just wore my baseball uniform. Perform so your school. You've got a bunch of Thomas Jefferson's George Washington's and then Roberto Clemente Pena showed up. Basically that is this beautiful. Michael you live such a fascinating life. Whether it was Roberto Clemente or Dennis Rodman. I guess you hit your teen years. Then you went to the Rodman side of things exactly. Yeah it's two in the same really. Yeah so look. That's a beautiful. I think we should end it on that. I mean everyone can just take away this beautiful picture of Michael in his Pittsburgh pirates uniform celebrating the life of Roberto Clemente. And let's be honest. You know there's going to be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of young kids out there putting on the number eight point on the number twenty four and even Zahn Williamson last night said that he had both jerseys when he was a kid. You know in some ways Kobe's legacy is just getting started and that's wild to think about because we've known him in the public eye since he was a teenager taking brandy to prom and making the cover of sports illustrated high school American. And everything else. Michael Michael. Thanks so much for sharing memories walking us through your day yesterday And you know some of those great personal experiences that you described e-mailers. I know Oh Kobe Bryant connected with you one way or the other. Let us know. Open floor male edgy. MILL DOT COM open floor male edgy dot com. We'll pick up regularly scheduled programing Later this week I will be back in Los Angeles. The Lakers will play the clippers on Tuesday Certainly that will provide plenty to discuss thus when we get back and Michael I look forward to talking to you about all that Later this week for now you guys can go to apple podcasts and search for open floor. That's that's two words. 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Lakers Fast Break- Remembering Kobe Bryant with LakerTom

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Lakers Fast Break- Remembering Kobe Bryant with LakerTom

"The off all right. And we're back again with the Lakers fast-break podcast it's Gerald Gosford. Come right back at you here and we're still a morning Still has a very dark time for Los Angeles Lakers fans around the world at basketball all fans in general because we're still mourning the death of one of the greatest basketball players to ever play the Game Koby Bryant who passed away and helicopter crash crash along with his daughter. GD Aka Jonah and seven others in a helicopter crash in the Calabasas area in southern California and take what. It's been a dark time for a lot of people out there but we're we're all trying to get through it while trying to pull through together talking about. I think has helped a lot for for for a lot of people about their feelings about their memories about everything that they've gone on known about how they felt and what they've seen. What comes to Kobe Bryant and here today with me okay to talk more about what's going on? Not only for the Lakers past re podcast but for a special episode that they're presenting today on the Cuyahoga the Valley Radio Network and I cannot thank them enough for allowing this show to air on that Station and here with me today. Is the good friend indeed to talk about it. A man who I've come to know through this show and also through his awesome sight Laker Hollick's dot net. If you WANNA go ahead and talk more about Kobe your thoughts or feelings or memories. He's there's no better place I'd go than Laker Holliston net to be part of the conversation today. Allegra Dot net. I know him as Tom Wong and every show I start talking to him and know him as well as Laker. Tom and and Tom I'll tell you what it's dark time right now offers Laker fans. But we're going to have to pull on through. I think that Again Remember Day as bad as Sunday in longtime when I got the news of of the accident the the only thing I could do is say please God. No that can't happen. It was just such a tragic agic thing and then you get the different news of what's happening and so forth such a tragedy and and Koby was such a big part of everything EDA's Lakers that it's it's hard to. It's hard to handle the news on the site. It's dispense constant morning almost everybody that I know. Oh who is a diehard Lakers fan was really unable to talk without breaking down into tears yesterday for me. It was exceptionally it. Difficult because one of the things that I've really admired and respected Gobi. In the last few years is is embracing of his daughter playing basketball. I have two granddaughters. Both wear number twenty four both are playing. CYO and AAU basketball. I had games with each one of the the daughters yesterday And it was. You just had to remember. Kobe would've wanted everything to go on. He would've wild the games to continue which is why the NBA made their decision not to postpone the Games and but it was really hard to do that. It was hard it all talk about him. Michael Oh you have podcast yesterday and I don't know how you could have gotten through that. I'd guess Gerald I'm going to be honest with you at the beginning. I didn't know I was going to be able to pull through but talking talking to Tj. And I WANNA thank. TJ Johnston of voice from the underground also one of my regular hosts as well for for doing it. He was not up to it. I was not really up to it but you know by the way really helping each other out. I wasn't uneven shape to talk about it. Even I went down to tell my my wife about it and my voice was just breaking up and I just couldn't handle it Closest thing for me to ever have that happen again. You know. It's rare that that somebody can be so important in your life that you've never met personally that's you know one of your heroes and and for me. The closest thing was the death of JFK. Get remember anybody else other than JFK and Kobe. Bryant added that brought me to tears in part of it was part of it was not that you know I mean there's been a lot of people at heroes that I've had who've died of natural causes and so forth but this is just so tragic and the fact that is the fact that his daughter was on the plane and two of her teammates. Were on the plane. Thirteen year old girls Mike. Granddaughters are thirteen and fourteen My son and I suppose that each each other yesterday and just incomprehensible you just almost cannot believe it happened. It was like some bad nightmare movie that you won't be hope. Hope you wake up in the morning and it was just a movie Tell you a someone as well who has a daughter. Two daughters twelve and fourteen to to me was particularly frightening. Yeah I my wishes and prayers go out to his wife Vanessa. And the other three girls and his family and all of his friends his mother and father Just it. It's just so hard to take. All of us are broken up about it. Devastated still even to this day knowing him as a competitor as is that of nature that he had he would want us to pull through and tried to do it. We can't be the best individuals that we could be and move on remember. His name even remember his daughter and remember all those people that unfortunately perished in the crash and learn from this and hopefully we can become better people by remembering in. What may Kobe Bryant? So great and I was tremendous work ethic that he had I want to hear your thoughts on recollections of Kobe and what first endeared him to you when he first started out the Laker but maybe when he went to high school. You know like all diehard Laker fans. Were always watching every buddy buddy Comes on the scene and then I remember all the talk before the draft. That was coming out for high school. And here's his fabulous kid and so forth than I can still remember the the various news. Did this got him back then. It wasn't like it was today where you got the Internet. And you've got you know inside information nation coming from a hundred different places in locations it was you know I was hanging onto the radio listening to what was going on in hearing rumors at the Lakers might trade aid for Kobe Bryant and that he was coming out and I remember when I first heard announcement that he was drafted by the Charlotte. Hornets was like Oh no you know. And and and then shortly after that she get the news at the Lakers traded for him from that moment on I mean rollaway through the first two airballs in the first play that big playoff game where airball two straight shots in following his career as the as easy went through the years There's so many iconic moments in and for Hermes some of them are the traditional ones. The Eighty one point game the The past a shack against Portland. That was that was just I check stuff that down. That was after such. Yeah I was in. I was in the my. My daughter-in-law was giving birth earth to my grandson actually was she had had a problem with a gun at the hospital. A couple of months before he was actually born and we were all in the hospital in my son was obviously very worried. And I was very worried. My wife was air. My daughter-in-law was in the bed but we had the TV on with no sound and and we were watching the Portland game and everybody else out. Even my daughter law and that shot went through with just a just one of those moments just spectacular attacking her. I think maybe my favorite Kobe moment he was he was just something else in a way. It came back in the playoffs after shack allowed at diamond diamond. You're just go through all the way through the eighty one point games and the free throws after he tore his Achilles Tendon and such He really they became the heart and soul of the Los Angeles Lakers and even even more than that I think the heart and soul of basketball for that generation. He was has his. He was the goat of his generation. I don't think there's a doubt of it you know. Jordan was the goat before that Lebron the goat after that lots of candidates for WHO's is going to be the gold going forward but I've always felt that the goat basically was limited to each generation. Because he just can't compare the generations but what's what set. Kobe part really was just exactly what you said Gerald that just work ethic and in total refusal to accept that he couldn't do use something you know. He sat a stage. That you see guys like Lebron out of taking it to another whole level in science of taking care of your body and and and and really the ultimate of professional you know. I look back when when I played high school basketball and I asked to think I really worked on my game amen. I really had a good work ethic and so forth when you compare that to somebody like Kobe. Bryant really understand that that you are a total amateur. This was a guy who was really consumed with wanting to make sure that he was at the pinnacle of his profession And I think that's the thing that just sets him aside I again it goes back to me with the fact that I didn't have it. I had a son only and I coached him. And everything and I went through and I remember periods the Times where I used to complain to. My wife about how women's basketball was taking up too many pages in the La Times. And I you know and she basically told me you're gonNA be sorry for that some day when you have granddaughters and thank God. I've got two granddaughters and when I hear things like Gobi saying that he wasn't even watching the NBA after he retired he didn't even have as flip subscription delete past until d said that she wanted to him the sign up for League Basle astle she could watch the games and then he started watching the games with her and and started sharing this moment. Some there's at video about that about two weeks. You go where. He was at the Lakers game with his side and he was basically just pointing out things to her telling her all about the game. I thought about that yesterday. AM sitting up in the stands before my granddaughter's game and were scouting the team two teams that we are going to be playing in the next few weeks and I'm sitting there with Alexa and I'm telling arena analyst. Look at that plane at three zones they got somebody going down down the baseline in order to shift aside over go four on one on one side And all I can think of it. That moment was just Koby. GD sitting on the sidelines. Koby doing that exact same thing I was doing with my granddaughter. So it's you know so it's really you know Barack Obama said it best man Kobe's GonNa have another stage of his life and hopefully hopefully you. There's something out there that you get after you go through this life and whatever it is I know that he'll give everything for it. LEGENDS DON'T DIE legends. Do Not die and certainly his name will live on forever especially around basketball circles on anybody who ever picks up the basketball ever again will probably come to know the name Kobe Bryant and what he achieved and and how great he was over the course of his career. I mean the numbers speak for themselves. five-time time champion with the Los Angeles acres eighteen time all star fifteen time member of the all. NBA team twelve time member of the all defensive team most valuable player a two thousand eight. I mean eighty one point game which is the second biggest ever in a regular season game in history. You know those numbers are just they pop out at you and you know it was at just mentioned today that he's going to be enshrined this year into the hall of fame posthumously. I don't think there was ever a doubt about that. Being the fact that he's one of the greatest players to have ever played the game. I mean talk to me about the impact that he is made upon upon the game of basketball in your opinion about where he ranks upon the Pantheon of great players. And how special was it to be a part of viewing You know the the brilliant that was Bryant. It's kind of funny. The I'm older than most Laker fans that I see on the web and that I see even Laker all dot net and so my love basketball game back and when my first reason right became a Laker fan was because of Wilt Chamberlain. I was actually a wilt Chamberlain van much like a lot of people in In basketball today where Lebron James Fans and so when will change teams just like Lebron changed teams. I basically switch making so I was the San Francisco Warriors Fan and I was a Philadelphia. Seventy a sixers fan you know and you go down the line. And then Lo and behold growing up in southern California listening and watching chick hearn and watching every Lakers game because I love the game of basketball and at times rooting against the Lakers. Lo and behold gets traded to the Lakers. I wasn't exactly for me. That was just like the perfect thrill because I grew up basically emulated my game and I wanted to be Jerry West. Basically had jerry was jump shot. I fashioned everything that I did after Jerry West UNC. Kobe come around and the thing that's really amazing about Kobe. Is When you look up. Those stands at Staples Center. And you see that there are our two numbers retired number eight number twenty four and those were really for Koby. Bryant's number eight was just just peer. Ross Super Athlete. The the the the guy who could jump with Michael Jordan and good have every move that you could possibly make. An and Dan was just the Uber Athlete. The other worldly athlete and he was when he was young he would just make moves it would just astonish you from the pure athleticism And that was the shack and Kobe. Era You know the first two championships than any switch it around. Kobe gets a little older de changes. Number two twenty four and he's battling through through a whole different thing where he's still in Uber Athlete but there are the guys Out there that can outjump him out running and so forth and then the work ethic takes over and you see this guy who you know. It's like players talking about. I can't beat him to practice. You know I come to practice at six. And he's there I come to practice at five and he's air. I hear stories that he's there at four o'clock and he'd basically let work ethic replace all of that will athleticism. So you'd find out things things in you know some. I've had people ask me before. WHO's better number eight or number twenty four and we're seeing today in Lebron James the value of experience experience And how experience and savviness that you gather from having played a lot of years in a league and been in a lot of situations nations can actually make you a better player as you get older than when you were younger and your prime and so I thought twenty four was just just the superb Kobe Bryant at times moodier than the number eight Kobe Bryant and fighting against the whole analytics trend of of you don't take mid-range jumpers and yet that mid range jumper of Kobi's was always money in any even go down the line. You look at the last year that he played after after coming back from the Achilles and what of the sixty three points in his final game sixty sixty s makes me. That's that's just incomprehensible. How could he do that? How could a guy that old hemp lost a lot of athleticism because of that injury still go out there and put up sixty points now the tribute to just work ethic and determination is a guy who just would not quit? And that's the thing that I think. You have to admire about Kobe. That he was never down. You know you could. He might. He might not have been then as great as he was those last couple of years. But I still believe it'd be hadn't tourneys Achil- as we would have had a chance at going into those play offs and we would have been a team that nobody wanted to to to play against He had really brought us back and basically sacrificed his body to get the Lakers into the playoffs that year. Only to have it in tragically weekly. It's kind of a funny sometimes. you You wonder about people who die young. Who are tremendously talented highlighted? The James Dean Jimmy. I mean the list now is pretty long. I mean Monroe James Dean to you park notorious I g you know there's so many different names are now become so iconic Kurt cobain there's so many different iconic names now that have died so tragically and you know it's it's something that you know our society it's going to be of a they raise the states. They raise the awareness of those individuals. They pedicle predatory rises up underneath Become more maybe they'd be they become larger almost is bigger than they were during their the the years they they were alive so they become such icons in idols for many for years to follow and it just is something tremendous end to see and I have a feeling. The same thing is going to go for Kobe. Bryant a lot of people going to continue to idolize him and more people that are not even born yet more people that are not even aware of. Kobe are going to come to idolize him and everything that he stood for over the course of the many years to follow in many years to come. Because he's going to. You probably reached that status that many of those other fallen stars have as well On. I think it's well deserved copious case. Because he worked hard every single day that he was out there on the floor every single day even after you know out there on the floor in his retirement I mean coaching those girls. Earning with his Production Auction Company the Academy Award for basketball. Which is if you've seen? It is truly a highly recommended for something as far as viewing its concern. Even if if you're not a basketball fan it is very well done very well. Deserving of the Oscar and Academy Award and it just it just shows you the kind of dedication that he has to everything that he he puts him his mind into that he put his mind into. And I'm just so grateful for the time that that I was able to go ahead and witness and bear witness is to it actually my my daughter. Fourteen year old daughter. Her First Basketball memories are of Kobe's last game and she really didn't get into basketball until then and and it took Kobe's last game and the excitement that was generated then That was generated Dan for just for her to get into it. And now she's a big time Lakers fan and she follows it the quite closely and it's great to see that that it took Kobe's brilliant for for not only her also millions of fans around the world to become excited about about basketball gives us something as you and I. Tom Are a little bit on the older side. So we have a you know we. We caught that basketball bug so long ago. And and just seeing the Brennan's the Kobe help perpetuate that and those five championships that the Lakers have earned over. The course of this century has helped. Bring our love for the Lakers. Even more to say what. I'm so grateful for everything. Kobe's brought to the sport good. Kobe brought to our society. And the copay brought to our world. Just just truly incredible experience to be a witness to it. I cannot thinking of you know you know his efforts for for everything he did it it just it was just a privilege just to watch him play each and every game out wide. Just WanNa go ahead and say once again I want to thank everybody for watching and also that will be listening to this this on the Cuyahoga Valley Radio Network and also. Well the Lakers fast-break podcasts. Were on each week on wherever you get your podcasts Bezos. Well if you WANNA be a part of the conversation right now if you wanNA share your thoughts and your feelings now the best place to do it I know of his Laker Dot net. That's run by my good friend Laker. Tom Here's I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to talk to me today. But I wanna go into something about coby. And the whole the steak stieg the Black Mamba Mystique that he helped create and help perpetuate and just became a larger than life type type of thing. Tell me about your thoughts on the mom of mentality itself and and how that came about and how it just. It became such a big thing as far as making Kobe almost larger than life character. You not not only. Because of his play is outstanding his outstanding play on the basketball court but just his attitude. Is the mentality that that created that Mambo like attitude Kobe. Toby one of the one of the things that were really going to miss is we won't see what Kobe did was gonNA really do for his second act if you will just because his life was cut short but he had a great sense of marketing and a great sense of branding and I don't think there's any nickname. Ah Any player out there today. That's as good as Mama was Kobe and the way he explained it. You know how that was you know. That was the snake. It was the most dangerous thing and and the way that it's taken off and so forth i. I think there's no doubt that Koby had in his mind. This grand vision of becoming a mogul goal of really showing what you can do once. You've got celebrity in money and it's something. I think that Lebron is carried. I'm in learned from Kobe to so they had the whole concept of of Mamba. Just Mama mentality meaning that that that never quit in deadly. You're always you're always in the game no matter what you just don't stop. I think that that's an attitude that you I love sports. Because the very best athletes in the superstars the heroes that we craft out of sports and the guys that we buy jerseys and the and love and die with those are always the players who give everything to it and coby coby never did anything. half-hearted I mean you hear the stories about him playing monopoly with his kids in being ruthless bankrupting the girls in not refusing to make a deal. I'm when when it says that they own this much for landing on boardwalk and so forth he's just just a just a competitor period. You know you'd never see him you know and and it's it's just something that's really special about him and I think you know he had started to do that in his second career that he had developed this this sense of aesthetic in a sense of branding that was going to be part of all of the endeavor Z.. Still did and I think that Mama mentality you know. Even you know where he was at a the Mamba Academy where he was headed for that that tournament for the Games and you know to me. It goes back again to just tally. It embraced his daughters his daughters basketball career in her desire she wanted to be an WNBA player. Now you're a lot of criticism from the people at times about the Wnba about holiday snap got the attendance it's been being taken care of by the NBA But it's people with the vision like Kobe. Who really understand how important it becomes if you had a son that love basketball and in wanted to give everything and became inspired fire by that sport and by the heroes that he saw that sport? That's what Kobe was doing for girls. I see that in my granddaughter's girls and in the leagues teams that we play with. It's a mark that will be there as long as the legend of Kobe. Bryant is there an probably will last past it one of the things I wanted to ask you is since since you are the the guy behind laker holly dot net but you also have a lot of people that help you out with the site enter is basically if you want to be part of the conversation it is flaker Hollick's dot net under so much conversation going on so many people sharing their feelings or thoughts on their give me a sample or Gimme a baseline of what what people are feeling at this point in time the you know the dozens and dozens and dozens to hundreds of people that are sharing their grief at this point in time with everyone everyone else on Laker Hollick's dot net on the boards on the chat areas. Just Gimme the overall feeling of what you think is going on in the mindsets of by those people that are it just sharing their feelings and their thoughts on Laker dot net. It's been pretty much the same thing as you and I- Geralda I know there's it's been a lot of people who didn't go to work today. Just weren't ready to do that. Discussion on almost everything else. Nobody's even mentioned a trade. Nobody's even mentioned the game against the Clippers tomorrow night Everything is just about how shocked they are in just. A stressed and condolences is in wishes for Vanessa in other three daughters. And I mean he just had one of the girls is not even a year old And the the toughness of the situation. So it's it's been almost a just a complete stopping of everything as far as discussions nations of anything else goes People just recounting how you know lots of lots of stuff about your favorite moments with Gobi your favorite memories the Great Games the championships. I mean imagining the Lakers. As a franchise if we hadn't had Kobe Bryant we might have gone through the last twenty twenty years like the clippers and had no championships So everybody who's a Laker fan does a depth to that to the accomplishments moments that were spurred because of Kobe. East part of it you know. I mean I'm in the process of within the next thirty days. We're going to have a brand new site it out for Laker hotlinks dot net and one of the things that that I've decided is that the site is going to be dedicated to Kobe. Bryant Because everything thing. That's everything is the Lakers. Today I can point back to is has evolved and become because of Gobi Bryant and most of the fans on Laker Hollick's Alex Dot net are. Just die hard liquor diehard Kobe Bryant fans. So it's you know. They've embraced Lebron but but a sculptor who built staple center basically and built the brand. That has become the Lakers and built those memories that we all Cherry so If anybody's out there wants a place where they can go in and read genuine honest comments from everyday fans like you and I and and people who didn't know Kobe personally It's it's just something special I've got a friend who is on the site also and basically actually knows cobian knows most of the players Hollywood writer he emailed me in in basically was telling him that he's got a lot of friends in China and he said it's just incredible in China that this Kobe is is like the hero of the whole whole NBA. And I want to ask you about as well because his reach was worldwide just like NBA's reaches worldwide and a lot of people are mourning the death of David Stern recently as well because of his impact and how he brought the game worldwide. It was players like Michael Jordan was players like Kobe. Who expanded the game and and you could see the outpouring of love from all around the world? I mean Italy where he spent many years growing up is honoring him all week long with tributes and there's individuals out there all from all around even the Dallas Mavericks says no one will ever wear number twenty four again. That's a classy move. I know we talked about mark human and things he does with the Dallas Mavericks of Whatnot. But you know what. That's a classy move in and of itself nap that just tells you the respected. He had for Kobe Bryant. And just this outreach. From all around the world from from countries from individuals and fans dance from from as far away like you said China Australia Japan you name it. He had reached that. Virtually any other player out there has never never had before. Yeah that's totally true. I mean even look at it. We got a game with the clippers. Coming up one of the coaches that I've always respected a lot. Can't stand is Doc rivers That that interview with dog where he was in tears trying to talk about how important Gobi was the game and so forth It just it just trivializes. The springs the reality that that as much as we love it as much as week die and live and die with every win every loss. It's just a game man. It's just a gain koby might say differently early and maybe maybe after we're done with the morning can get back to life as a general will feel the same way again but is is it just reality dose that you know sometimes sometimes it is just a game when you compare it with certain things and there is a game on Tuesday against the clippers. I know it's going to be shown national television here in the United States and a lot of people are going to be looking forward to it. They were going to be looking forward to it. I know we were for other reasons right for obvious reasons but now the emotions are going to be running high and you know. Tell me in your opinion to tell me what you think the the you know the vibe you get from Laker Hollick son that it's going to be the type of emotions that's going to be around and the you know just how impactful full it will be come Tuesday for that game. I mean 'cause Donnelley's for another battle of L. A.. And of proving point for the Lakers team that we have now but also so it's going to be for most importantly. The first time that that the Lakers as publicly gets to honor copyright and and you know just basically the the world gets to see what the hell how the fans and especially Lebron who's been quiet and obviously the only images we have of is Lebron just breaking taking down you know as you know he. He flew down because the Lakers didn't find out until well they ask you found out when they were on the plane flying from Philadelphia so Lebron has basically been very distraught about it from from all reports. And what we've seen gene and just tell us the type of motion that you think everybody's GonNa have and feel when when come Tuesday night when they have such a momentous game. Coming up between the Lakers and the clippers. I think the game won't be Momentus if nothing else. I think the game basically will be attributed to go be in the sense that what's most important. I think is probably going to be the things that the players say about Kobe. Their opportunity to talk about their relationships with him. He's mentored a lot of the guys is around the league. In some of the guys on the Lakers The irony that this happens a day after Koby you know breaks after Lebron Breaks Kobe's record for number third most third most points scored in the NBA that we lose Koby Bryant You Know Day after Dwight Howard publicly asked Kobe to depart of his show when he goes into the dunk contest at thirty four years. Old Against Oughta these young legs. I just think how that's going to be now at what he might do to honor him. I think everybody's going to be breaking down all over again. Yeah I I think the game who wins the game is going to be a minor sideline to the tribute to Kobe. That's GONNA come from the fans from staple center. I wouldn't be surprised if every single person who showed up in that arena where twenty four a jersey. I can't even imagine what it's going to be like Gerald. I mean I mean. I know that you know it's people wanted how long it's GonNa take the world to get back to normal. You know at least for for basketball fans in general. Oh and Lakers fans primarily. It's going to take a little while before things get back down because it's going to be hard moving on without knowing that Kobe's there you know. Oh some form or fashion right there on sidelines right there you know on at near the court or even watching or commenting on twitter or anything like that. It's going going to be hard to know that he's not going to be there in some type of you know presence and because there's always been that presence of Kobe even with social media there's just been around the Lakers as far as it without presence you know even after he's retired and it's still there like you said when he took GD to the Games You know even recently still there people go out of the way to to say hi and players that just have truly modeled their game after a lot of things things that he did for instance Luca you know when he went in and spoke Luca in in his language and yeah there was colby. Oh be at trae young. who was just truly devastated because GDP had expressed to him about that? He was his that. She was his favourite Favorite current player and truly devastated trae young. And just the things that you see here about the love that people have for Kobe Brian and the mystique he has and the hold he had on the Lakers and also the the NBA as well just is truly going to be missed and the presence that he's not there that's going to be hard to overcome and the motions that they're going to be put displayed here in the not too distant future not only on Tuesday but going forward as the season gets you know obviously dedicated for the rest of the season and whatever the Lakers do is going to be a memory of him. It's going to be something that you know. It's going to be hard. You're going to wear heavy on. Not only the Lakers but the Lakers fans as well. I think that there's this may be a a crazy idea. Okay but in all of this. That's happened right now and you look at the situation and you think about what Colby would say in what Kobe would do. It wouldn't shock me if if the Lakers go on win at four Kobe. I actually think that there's some power behind that bought that colby no matter what you say about Kobe. There's very few guys who their entire hire career blood purple and gold didn't go to another team. You know were there and then still supported the team. After they retired most all seasons with one team. I believe him enter our twenty years. Correct Yep so I you know I. I think there's something behind. The sentiment is probably a sentiment that nobody wants to say right now at this moment and is probably too early but I do think there's something about when it Kobe that's going to grow slowly A.. And we'll be away the to take the. It would be a way to honor Kobe by taking what would what he would have done in that situation and turning it around from devastation to celebration. And I'm hoping that that's the way that the Lakers will take aac. And they will go out there and and in appreciation for everything that Kobe Bryant has done for the Lakers organization through his ears and through his great play. That they'll go out there and win one for him That's what my hope would be mine as well. My friend mind China's well once again. I'm talking to Tom Wong Aka Laker. Tom You can catch. He's doing whether or not it's his great articles on medium dot com but also as as well on his site Laker Hall extent net. I O everyone will get a chance to go ahead and check out Laker Hall. Ix Dot net and be part of the conversation seek. Express your love for Kobe. Express your feelings your memories and anything you want to go ahead and talk about Lakers wise on Laker Hollick's dot net or catch us every week. When we talk about the Lakers on the Lakers fast-break podcast? And I'll tell you what my friend is a lot of stuff going on a lot of emotions. A lot of things that are that are going on it just it. Yesterday was such such a heavy day for all of us. Just I felt it in my body. Felt that my chest and it was just so hard and I can't think of TJ Johnson for voice from the underground for speaking to me at length that it really helped me I was. We weren't sure we were going to go on. And we both weren't sure we're GONNA be able to speak thought that we're probably GONNA make fools out of ourselves on camera But we got through it and it was actually very therapeutic for all of us with you know. Yesterday was a tough day and you couldn't come on the air and I know you had coach girls and I wanted to know you have to get through the day saw. How did you get through the day yesterday who you know? As far as what things did you do. Who did you talk to you? And where did you go to find some solace in such a sad time like this while I was. It was kind of funny by the time. I I got the news in told my wife about it. We had to get ready to go to my granddaughter. MIA's game and I really didn't even Wanna a go at first. I just just sitting down in front of the computer trying to get the news trying to figure out what happened. I mean at that point in time before I left for the game in uh the the crazy dumb rumors that all four daughters died with him on the plane. were out there and I was trying to grapple with that you know then Rick Fox was an clocks supposed to be on there and you know it's you know I mean get the news right guys doesn't do any good to to the beat somebody else. When you create crazy rumors that just caused more pain people so you know in but then I and then I saw my wife took off with her car to go and and I left me here and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking about the whole thing and I said I just got I just got to go to me as game? I can't miss this game name so I jumped in the car and zoomed off and turn on CNN. You know just it's normally the station. I listened to when I'm in the car while CNN. It's not a single word about politics. Everything's about Kobe Bryant plane crash in so at least I at least I found out that it was only only a Ugh who was on the plane with Gobi. Although to to his two of her teammates were on the plane. You know you think about three thirteen eighteen year old girls who all love basketball and you know that just so tragic you know a pin one of the mothers in one one of the one of the great baseball coaches in southern cal in southern California junior college figs him and his wife where their daughter Just yes so tragic because I get to the game you know and in the Games getting ready to start and I'm watching the game you know and I see my son and you know on. He's got tears in his eyes and One of the girls one of the best players on the team had heard the news and had told my daughter told my granddaughter modern she told Her Dad and you know he grew up as a Kobe Fan. I mean it was just horrible. In that sense they won the game though they played extremely really well and then I added to go off to the second game with other granddaughter and we were GonNa Scout Two teams that we were playing. I got after the arena there in and saw lots of friends that I knew in guys who were referees and coaches in the Cyo and Talk to the other coaches loser. Because he had was there with his girls and we talked about the whole thing coby and his girls. I live in northern California. So there's there's like an island of Laker fans among all of the waiters fans. If he will but it helps it helps just to talk it out just does does help to talk it out except my problem was I couldn't really talk every time I tried to say something about it. My son would say something about it. Might Start to talk and I'd start to cry and I didn't I just you know I know I remember at the end of the game. Hugging both migrate At the end of each game hugged each of my granddaughters in Tears in my eyes just just the whole the whole thing that Colombian In those three girls with their parents were on the way to a game. Just the same as I was with. My you know in the car Dr and you had a car accident just like a helicopter accident back. I'd probably say that your chances of having an accident in the car were greater the chances of having an accident and he'll look after But just that that parallels between it just made me want to hang onto them and not let go of them you know. That was the biggest sense that I got a lot of the a lot of fans on Laker dot net. Very similar. Things you know. Make sure you hug your husband or your wife find a way to work because God knows whether you'll see him again and so you know for me I I I just wasn't I wasn't marginally capable of really talking about it any great extent. You know I really actually appreciate the chance to talk about it with you and I was just. I was just tool mostly overwrought yesterday. I just couldn't stop crying at by started. Crying was just in a in their Irina with you know coaching these girls goes on coby. COBY would've said you know. Let's play absolutely as described in my conversation with Tj down for voice from the underground yesterday. If Kobe were live right now he would probably slap all all of us collectively to say no at snap out of it. You know life goes on. There's a game on Tuesday. Laker fans have got to go ahead and and support their team. But you know at Laker fans are also going to go ahead and support their team by also supporting one of the greatest to ever played the game and You Know L. as we close out in the last fifteen minutes here of our show and again I want to thank everybody for watching. Thank everybody for listening to Laker's fastbreak hope you get a chance to go ahead and listen to more episodes that we've got on there all of our podcast networks. That are out there. If you have any questions please let us know at Laker's fastbreak on twitter. The Lakers fast-break at Yahoo Dot Com. or You just said it. As part of a five star review on Apple podcasts. I want to go ahead and to say you know. What is it about Kobe that that struck you? Most you know what is it about copays career that really just propelled him in your eyes to become one of the best that you've ever seen. I think that it's probably encapsulated with the Momma mentality. That from the time he came into the League in threw up those first two airballs in the playoffs to you know finishing his career with sixty point game is a guy who never quit was never intimidated. Aidid was never afraid. You could block his shot. You could block his dock but that would not in he had the ultimate the ultimate shooters shooters mentality that you never worried about the last shot. The next shot was going in so I think that level of confidence and backed by the fierce determination that he showed when he played the game was the first determination he showed as he prepared for the game. You hear the phrase Koby ask sometimes when players make moves in the court and so forth to me. Yeah the greatest compliment that anybody could give somebody in athletics today. or or an any endeavour today would be to say that there are work ethic and their effort their determination to their craft. Their commitment to their craft was Kobe esque. I think that's what stands out most to me. It's the thing that I use sometimes with my girls when I'm coaching him. That basically you know you don't WanNa quit never quit. It doesn't matter if you missed the last shop that doesn't matter. Don't cry over spilled milk. Just take the next shot. I congratulate them. I want every one of them to take a shot when they got the chance to shoot and Kobe was a guy who totally believed in that. You know One of the things that he would most angry about teammates was when they had an open shot. They didn't take that shot his APP. Just files everything up. You know you have to play with confidence and the only way you learn to do that is to learn to forget. Get what you make a mistake. Learn from it. Yes and don't make the same mistake again but you basically have to have to have some Mama mentality one of the things I wanted to ask you before we head on out and like I said we're in our final twelve minutes or so here on the Lakers fast-break podcasts. Is You know the those memories the most that stick out to you. I mean the games that you think really just defined Kobe and who he was as a player player. I want you to go ahead and describe I mean the easy answer is the eighty one point game and I saw that game first hand. I didn't see it on tape delay. I didn't see it on. You know I have. I've seen it. You know again in future recordings after that but I did see it live as it happened. I was privileged to see it and I saw the bruins right there up in person and but for me probably one of the most memo games was one of his worst games. Actually and that was against the Boston Celtics in game. Seven of the two thousand nights series and I as I was speaking to. TJ Johnson. A voice in the underground. What impressed me most was that he was awful? Shooting the ball for virtually virtually the entire game. He found other ways to help the team win. You know you hear it all the time about Alice Caruso about so many other players. There's Oh he does the little things he does everything else to help. The team win too poor to provide that platform and Kobe did exactly that he rebounded rebounded in double digits. He passed the ball efficiently. He got the you know. got to the open man. He played really hard defense against the Boston. Celtics at that point in time it truly impressed me that day to see that no matter how frustrated coby got with the shooting he never let the other parts of his game lead down down and to me I just thought that was just a tribute to the determination that he has and the wheel that he had in that game where it was truly one of the ugliest games you could probably that'd be see from a basketball standpoint something you probably would never show that as far as teaching offense to apply to any player out there but from defensive standpoint the point especially the defense and the effort of the team defense that Kobe displayed on that day. I think it was just something that it shows that Kobe was you know had more to this game and it had more to his game the just shooting that just going ahead and just filling it into the basket and be being at that point in time the third highest score of all time which was just recently passed on Saturday. Ironically by Lebron he had so much more his game that made him such an outstanding player. Yeah there's no doubt about data data. There's so many it's kind of ironic that a lot of people will remember Koby forest scoring only in l.. Forget about all of those all defensive team team honors and and the great passing ability the AD and And the fact that he do the dirty work in the little things when he couldn't couldn't make the big shots One of the things that I think is. I've always felt is really important in sports in probably in basketball more so than even than even baseball for sure in football. I mean in football. You got the right quarterback and baseball. You got the right pitcher. Those things are really important but in basketball there's is only five people on the court and when one of those people you know is the greatest player in the world. Who's going to give you every single thing you got in will answer every bell? That's going to happen that instills confidence in other players in the team. And it doesn't matter whether you're talking about the NBA finals whether you're you're talking about a girls Cyo Basketball Tournament or a game or just a pickup game down the street where there's four guys on each side and you're playing on on asphalt when you know you have the best player in the game it instills confidence in everybody else and I think that's what happened in that Celtics series Any other great players do the same thing you know that there's something about having the best player I've Seen Lebron too many times. I've seen the result of Lebron and being on a team inspire the team to play so much over their normal level. There's just a level of confidence you get Every single Guy Annette court nobody would have complained if Gobi taken the last shot in a game was a was a one point win. Or you're buying by one point and Gobi took that shot just because you knew that he was going to do the right thing that I mean his overall numbers maybe or just like every other star. NBA Player when it. It comes down to taking that last shot you know. The percentages aren't the greatest Lebron with with whoever you WANNA put 'em day whoever but the fact is he. He wanted that last shot and he wanted to take more than anyone else on the team. And the reason that you get to the point where you can take that last shot Very often is because even spire your teammates to play better That's the one thing that you know. You just can't bottle that type of breath that type of ferocity that that Iraq teammates can count on you and that the game is everything and he's going to give you one hundred eighty eighty percent every single time. He steps on the court That's one of the things that I admire about. Lebron James Need as he doesn't WanNa take it didn't doesn't WanNa take a night off. That may be foolish and some ways and at times we see the wear and tear Lebron's game and we have a bad game like we had the other night and and sometimes you saw that with Kobe to because he was not a guy who wanted to rest you know he was Kinda guys as what do you mean pulled me out of the game yet. Management was in his dictionary. It's not that's not the way you play the game. And that's no knock on an Paul George because I think both of those players have had career threatening injuries that it's it's as as it was said in a recent article I I read The clippers really have injury management management not load management. There's a difference there but Kobe was. You know he'll be was inspiration. Not only to the players not only to the fans listen in and Basketball lovers all over the world He was an inspiration mostly to the guys who played with him. You know because when you step on a court with him on your side side. There's there's a certain there's just a certain amount of swagger there that that just makes sense and I've I heard that word is as something that was really the ultimate description Kobe if anybody in a mama mentality epitomized anything the closest synonym in my book would have been swagger. Kobe really had the true swagger and he did everything behind it to make sure that if if his team was out there with him they would have that swagger to League championships. He earned that swagger every single bit of with Tom. It's just been so awesome to talk to you again. I want to thank everybody who has watched on all these tremendous facebook groups and I want to say a special thank you to not only Laker dot net but also while pop culture cosmos inside sports. LAKER's fastbreak Real Lakers fans worldwide. Lied Los Angeles Lakers fans born a Lakers fan. Dial Lakers fan all these facebook pages and all these facebook groups. I cannot thank you enough for allowing us to go ahead and express our thoughts on the greatness that is Kobe Bryant and allowing us to go ahead and elaborate in detail on his life and his legacy. And that's something I will ask you as our final question today is it explained to me in your best thoughts. The the legacy that Kobe Bryant will leave upon this earth or that he leaves upon this Earth at this time. I think the single word that you can put to it his greatness. That was never realized. I think that the unlike maybe Elvis who overstayed his time in the spotlight Koby really missed out on the second level of the second activists live is spotlight And I think the net in that sense the way that he'll be elevated on a pedestal along with James Dean Other other great heroes of America that that died before their time was up. Were always going to wonder how how what he would have done and what he would accomplished. But the trumark of it is is that the world is going to mourn the loss of one of the greatest basketball players and greatest athletes that we've ever seen and it's well deserved and I. I think that in the end we're going to see it. Avenue impact on this Lakers team. And I think it's almost as if you could expect Kobe to put one last tweet in there and say when it all for me because I think that's what's going to happen when the Lakers get back to playing basketball after a respectable time of of mourning. The loss of one of the greatest Lakers in the history of the game goodness than any better myself once again. I'm talking to Tom Wong long again. LAKER TOM IF YOU WANNA go ahead and share your thoughts. There's a great place to do it. And that's Laker Hollick's dot net whether having a conversation right right now and all the individuals that are there that so many people that are part of it that are sharing their thoughts and their memories and their love for Kobe Bryant. Go ahead and be part of conversation conversation today and all throughout the season at Laker Alex Dot net and again for us. We're the Lakers fast-break podcast. Hopefully he'll be able at some point in time. If you. I liked what you heard today give you know. Give us a listen to us. We're on each week on spotify. I apple podcasts anger. You know wherever you get your podcast Kostas type in the words Laker's fastbreak were there. And if you do we cannot thank you enough for doing so. And if you give us a five star review on Apple podcasts. That helps us become become more visible to Lakers fans out there. We'd be truly honored and humbled if you did but I'll tell you what it's it's been a rough time for everyone out there and I. I can't blame anybody anybody for having some hard time. Getting through this because it has been hard for all of us as Lakers and also basketball fans worldwide When one of the true greatest you just individuals to ever play the game? Kobe Bryant passes away in a helicopter crash but again we want to express our condolences. Not only to the Bryant family also expressed condolences to the all the families that lost loved ones in the in this tragic accident and as days go by you know the memories of all those individuals who perished in that tragic tragic helicopter crash there will not be forgotten their names their their lives will not be forgotten and I know by us all around the world we will never forget the legacy that is gonNa be Bryant and I think like we talked about earlier in the show is just going to become larger and larger than life in the years I to come Tom. Any last thoughts Alba you know. It's just been incredible. Talk India just I know you just want him. What share some last awesome final thoughts? Yeah I I have the same feelings that you do Gerald the All of our hopes and prayers go out to Vanessa and the rest of the rest of these kids Men The families of a the the other two girls on the flight as well as the pilot. It's such a tragedy. We don't know right now. What happened there You know and I just hope that I just hope that everything will be okay for those families in that they'll be able to recover and move forward and as Kobe would have wished pushed. The Games will go on life will go on will all move on So a few best thing to do is to hold onto and hugged Ogden. Love the people that you cherish and don't take them for granted you know every day appreciate what you have because it could be gone in a flash. That's so true. That's so very true again. I want to thank everybody for watching. Thanks so much. Everybody that's listening to this on the Lakers fast-break podcast podcast. Thank you so much to the Cuyahoga Valley Radio Network for airing. This special LAKER's fastbreak podcasts. And everyone out there keep the faith hug a loved one. Share your thoughts and just be strong because Kobe would want that way and you know as we remember Koby. We'll continue to do so for the years to come as one of the greatest to ever play. The game cannot thank Kobe enough for everything that he did while he was alive. And thank you so much for listening. Be a part of today's show. Right here on the Lakers.

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379: Kobe Bryant on Legacy

Daily Sales Tips

02:21 min | 6 months ago

379: Kobe Bryant on Legacy

"You're listening to the daily sales tips. PODCAST I'm your host Scott Ingram. Today is Super Bowl Sunday and I probably totally should be doing some type of super bowl related tip but honestly I'm just I'm not that into it this year as long as the red team wins. I'll be good instead dead. I'm going to wrap up my miniseries tribute to Kobe. Bryant that I started in hip three seventy seven. One of the main reasons I wanted to do this is because of how important legacy clearly was to Kobe. He talked about it a lot. And I can't tell you how much I connected with this particular quote. This comes from from part of a short segment that Kobe did on CNBC. And I'll have it linked to the full clip for you. At daily sales dot tips forward slash. Three seventy nine. Here's what he said playing basketball. The focus is always on winning winning championships winning championships winning championships now championships coming go right. He's going to be another team. That was another championship championship. Another player that with another MVP award but if you really want to create something that lasts generations you have to help inspire the next generation right and they treat something that generation will inspire the one behind them right and that's when you create something forever and that's what's most beautiful again. I can't tell you how much this resonated with me. As as I think about the sales success community in fact let me take this same idea and apply it to sales and see if it resonates with you being in sales. The focus is always on winning. Winning deals winning deals. Winning deals now deals come and go. There's going to be another competitor. That wins another deal. Another reseller that gets to the top of the leaderboard but if you really want to create something that lasts generations you have to help. Inspire the next generation and they create create something great and then that generation will inspire the one behind them right. And that's when you create something forever and that's what's most beautiful. Kobe clearly clearly inspired the next generation in so many ways. I hope you and I can work together through this show and this community to inspire the next generation of true sales professionals. Thanks for listening and come back tomorrow for another great sales tip.

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