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07-28-21 Book of the Month: Healer of the Water Monster by Brian Young

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07-28-21 Book of the Month: Healer of the Water Monster by Brian Young

"Support for this program by fairbanks alaska the golden heart city go see gold-panners game visit downtown art galleries or drive out to cina hot springs exploring your home state. Is the kovic safe way to enjoy the summer. Welcome to native america calling from studio eight six minnesota pueblo. I'm tara gatewood humor. The water monster is dna author. Wine young's debut novel the book centers around nathan in urban deny youth who encounters a whole being while visiting his grandmother on her traditional lands of the nova who nations. He is lead on a journey that truly tests his bravery get ready for our book of the month. Or we'll visit with fine to hear more about healthy to dream into a novel. National native news is next stay tuned. this is national native news. I mean antonio gonzales vice president. Kamala harris hosted a native vote discussion. Tuesday with tribal leaders and voting advocates in opening remarks harris mentioned barriers including lack of access to polls harris says the administration is listening to tribes. Here's part of her remarks which aired on c. span we've been engaged consultation with the leaders in recognition of the government to government relationship and in recognition therefore of the need to consult with these leaders to make sure that whatever it is that we are doing to fix the problem it is formed by the leaders tells artifact caracal leaders and advocates from five states. Took part in the meeting. The yukon cuscak quim delta and western alaska is the second largest region in the us without access to high speed internet. But not for long as kyi. Uk's great kim reports one try but plans to beam down broadband speeds from space the current state of internet access and the white cay delta is abysmal. Three hundred dollars a month by internet service a hundred times slower than what's offered in many u. s. cities so the accuracy native community a y k delta tribe decided to take matters into its own hands using newly launched satellites akio plans to install broadband internet by november of this year tribal chief mike williams senior is excited for all the ways. Broadband could change life. Enac improve their quality of life in all areas healthcare education economic development and other services like. We're so excited about catching up to the digital world. Low earth orbit or leo satellites will beam. Internet service into the satellites are owned one web last month. One web announced ahead launched enough satellites to provide service to all of alaska. Accurate says that will more than double. Internet speeds have a higher data cap and cost less than the current option other tribes in the white cay. Delta are following ac lied about half the tribes in the region have joined a consortium that will help them set up the same internet system in their community as they're planning on paying for it with the federal grant that has nearly one billion dollars available for tribes to expand broadband access. The deadline to apply is september. First in bethel. I'm greg cam. This year's class of crow reservation rookie. Firefighters montana were sent to their first place the same day. They graduated training school. Taylor stagner has more the buffalo pastor fire earlier this month became a training ground crow firefighting rookies to test out newly learned skills. How fireworks chemically different approaches to fighting fire. And how to stay safe. We're all part of the curriculum. Carl big hair ran the rookie school and says the opportunity for hands on experience was an excellent way to test what they learned over the week of training for them to experience a whole thing actually decline right buyer. They care says he sees the need for more firefighters in the near future especially as fire season is expected to become more intense as summer continues last year. The reservation had twenty one rookie firefighters this year only seven second year. Firefighter de shauna. Anderson said that while there are fewer workers this year. She's really impressed with their quality. I feel like more of them are more determined to firefight and i see them more on the line billing to dig lie and then get things done and i feel like this fire. Season is a lot hotter than last year for national native news. I'm taylor stagner and demand tony out gonzales. National native news is produced by broadcast corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting support by the center for indigenous cancer research at roswell park comprehensive cancer center dedicated to cancer research medicine and cancer care for indigenous population. The no charge online risk assessment tool is available at roswell park dot org slash assess me. This show is supported by the fx original series reservation dogs from sterling harjo and tyco. It reservation dogs follows the adventures of four indigenous teens rural oklahoma preservation dogs streaming august ninth exclusively fx on hulu native voice. One the native american radio network. This is native america calling. I'm tara gatewood joining you live from my homeland. Assure with dewi. Healer of the water monster is a book that we are going to jump in today. It is by deny author. Brian young and it calls upon a traditional story but there is an added flair to it. And we're going to hear from our author today just The protei took but the story follows a young man who returns to the nam-ho nation to visit his elder and while he's there not only does he get to reconnect with his family and his language. He also connects with a special being. We're going to hear about an everyone that is tied to that one being and today we are gonna get insights into when books are created by native authors. The opportunity that it is giving to readers so we'll get into all of that today and we also hope that you will join us too. You can give us a ring. The number is one eight hundred nine nine. Six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native and the first ten callers to make it on air to share their thoughts or their questions will receive a complimentary copy of healer of the water monster. A courtesy of harpercollins children's books so again if you'd like to join us one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight is how you get into the conversation and right now. We're in a fort defiance arizona to brian young. Who joins us today brian. Thank you for joining us and please feel free to further introduce yourself Thank you for the space. Yeah tissue can't though she's an aide bryan young initia- cut cheating or the name bush's gene toward a dutch call. Eight thousand dollars Cotija go team teams slim It dan Corgi dj brooklyn michigan. Hi everyone my name is. Brian young i am an enrolled member of the navajo nation. I am originally from the forty five sam area but i currently live in brooklyn new york and again. Thank you for having me. On the show brian. There is so much we can explore in this book. But let's go ahead and give them some of the setting. What would you like to share. Sending things up Well first and foremost is a middle grade novel and the civic subset of waie or young adult. I have heard several people referred to as an adult but Middle grade is a little bit younger than young adults. So the target demographic is sixth to eighth grade or ten to thirteen and a while. I did write it specifically for young navajo readers. I was hoping that the book would be able to reach a broader audience older and also non-native audience. And so there's a big invitation into all this Continue yeah and i guess. Plots of nonsense Nathan is an eleven year old. Deny a ski or young man and he grew. He lives in fort for defense. Fourteen points. nathan live in phoenix arizona. And he is sent to. His paternal grandmother's mobile home trailers sites just north of truck new mexico and in the book that area has been in a drought for about thirty years and his nellie or his paternal grandmother lives without running water or the trysofi because of how far away from the towns and infrastructure. She just doesn't have access to those and then in addition to Being conscious of water conservation. Nathan is doing a science experiment And he was comparing the water consumption of traditional heirloom corn kernels that his nali had received from her grandmother versus store bought corn kernels and is during this time that he gets lost in the desert at night and comes across a water monster and for now the we have our hygiene bachan that or are merging story or a creation mythology and mortar. Monsters are in the third world and in my authors. Don't i specifically make sure to say that water in all the navajo stories like mortar monsters. Do not come up into the fourth round but this is my fictional addition to do the creation mythology nice. Say that is false. The first people the first beings into the fourth role and the into the time that we are in right now. And so nathan comes across a water monster and in my book in this fictional setup. I say that water monsters protect bodies of water such as lakes rivers and they with their songs are able to sing down the rain and they are pretty much like water deities and this particular water monster has been sick for thirty years and because of his sickness. He hasn't been able to sing any of the rain songs thereby causing the drought in the area and and in exchange for helping nathan get out of the desert nathan agrees to find out what is sickening the water monster and hopefully he'll him from ever is causing him pain and there is a lot that you end up bringing up about you know of course Living in a community Having mixed families in there there's just so much Explored in in the different pages that you have provided to us and brian free you. What's your hope on on this book in who it'll reach from the very beginning. My hope my biggest dream was that young navajo. Readers would be able to see themselves in the story. I grew up. very voracious reader and in fact libraries. Where one of my first Babysitters because my mom when she took me to gallop who had kind of dropped me off at the library. I would just spend hours upon hours looking at books reading books and i just entertain myself with whatever i found so stories were always a huge important part of my youth and growing up but the books that i was reading the movies that i was watching the video games. I was playing. Had no native american protagonists. We were always secondary at best or we were treated as environments. And we were always stereotypes. We were always boring feathers. We were always speaking broken english. And i did not identify with what was available at that time and growing up like I was a huge fan of the harry potter series attended like book releases. Midnight book releases watched all the movies in theaters. I remember one of my friends saying like reading those books. Only white people get to go to that school and that kind of just stuck with me and painted my reading experience not just with harry potter but with other books and book series. I was reading about there. Were no native characters and at age are just kind of looking for reflections of yourself. And whatever you're doing. And i wasn't finding that so with my book. Healer of the water monster. I'm hoping to provide that reflection and in providing that reflection i'm also hoping to say to young navajo kids on the reservation in urban environments. That you too can be protectionist. You too can be our hero. And i feel that as a message that all all native kids not just now the host Need to hear especially at that age range between ten and thirteen where there's a lot of milestones that they are crossing as young adult. Sure there's a lot of things that the four men in that age range and showing this character as the hero. I think really is exciting and something that you also do. Brian in terms of traditional stories. A lot of times they are passed on In in they create the space that we connect to traditionally a and what you have done with this kind of blending. You are basically. It seems that you are telling these young individuals that you belong in this space is well You're connected to this. You know traditional circle By by even putting a young man you know having conversations making friends With holy beings in i'd like for you to just expand on that about taking that approach Well it wasn't such a radical idea to have a navajo protagonist in my because in some ways. I was already doing that with. The books are reading. When i discovered i can find any representations of myself is the author wasn't providing no concrete details of the characters i was inserting navajos anywhere. I could even when my mom would buy me like coloring books. I was coloring all the characters the same shade of brown. I was at so in that way. I guess i was in digitizing the contents around me but when it comes to blending both traditional and modern it didn't that also was not as radical idea to me because as a person who. I got my bachelor's degree young and my master's i am kinda living in those two Atmospheres not Stratosphere of journal and it doesn't it's not a he's be participating in both. There is a little bit. Never doable and presenting the brace in the west and brian hint type brian. We gotta go to break here and He's actually going to read some of this book for us coming up right after the break and i know you don't wanna miss that but i do wanna remind you. It is our july book of the month. And if you'd like to join us. Talk directly to brian you can call in at one. Eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. We have ten bucks to share with you today Courtesy of harpercollins children's books full nicer. Open you gotta make it on air though one. Eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight is a number go ahead and give us a ring and you can ask your questions to brian's ready. The remains of nine children who returned to the rosebud to trolling nearly one hundred and forty years after they were buried at the carlisle indian school in pennsylvania remains of another alaskan eater. Person was also turned. We'll learn about the journey to bring these relatives home. The next native america calling support by roswell park who know tribal communities face persistent challenges in health equity such as cancer and higher death rates the centre for indigenous cancer research at roswell park. Comprehensive cancer center is dedicated to advancing cancer research that will lead to translatable science medicine and cancer care for indigenous populations worldwide. Are you at high risk for cancer. A no charge online assessment tool is available at roswell park dot org slash assists me. Thanks for tuning. In to native america calling interrogate would from a subtle pueblo and it is july book of the month this month. We have invited. Brian young to join us. He is danny author. The name of his book is healer of the water monster and again that invitation. Is there for you. if you'd like to join us. Go ahead and dial in one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight is the number and we are also going away ten copies of the book to get one. You just gotta make it on air Dialing now you like to join us. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight and brian attorney to you. Take us deeper into the book. I know there's a section that you're excited to read of course. Of course this is chapter. Two after nathan has been dropped off his knowledge place in east kinda very uncomfortable having trouble sleeping and so this and pop of pink twenty six nelly said. It's okay not to be comfortable out here. She must offense. Nathan's lack of enthusiasm. It's tough living and not everyone finds it relaxing nila. We have a long summer and to keep attitude. It's gonna be even longer shown a be patient. Give it time for me okay. Nowy making said in the kettle started whistling nathan inserted a sprig of lavender into sage leads into it. Are your friends working on their projects over the summer team. No just me. Oh what are they doing to cough wesley. Going to summer camp. While stephen going on some family vacation to disneyland or disney world. What about your other friends. That question stung nathan. Didn't really have any other friends. Leslie in stephen. We're the only ones who didn't call him butterball. He folded his arms over his stomach and wish they would go away. The tea should be ready and they can thought he poured steaming liquid into the monks and only had brought out really blue on the t in her cup. Took a sip and grinned Silicon hook cost. Come over here. Pulled him closer to her. He rested his head on her soft shoulder and she continued to small not only inhale deeply and said so. Look all the phone nathan salt means star and she cleaned up with your lips in the navajo way. Each and every song has a story behind it. That's a lot of stories. They said knowing chuckled. Yes only had medicine men medicine. Women are able to remember each and every story touchy say that the phone seeing the stories to each other and wants to know their stories. They'll send to you as well. Nathan look at the scar at the star at the sky and stared at the milky way. Question do they think to you. Sometimes i'm gonna pay real good good attention eastern she. If you pay tension you'll notice things to out here away from the big city. The holy beings have a much easier time connecting with us sometimes like little cheese wearing turquoise necklaces. She smelled at him. Respect them and let them do those things. Well we do ours. Normally nathan would have shut off always comment but he had seen that footprint and the horn food war a turquoise necklace noli continue once you earn the stories should know you realize that the brighter the star the bigger the story and in my heart. I believe your story is going to be as big as the sun nathan recipes head against her shoulder again not only always knew what to say to make him feel right about himself. Perhaps these next two weren't going to be that bad. I will stop right there in there. You have it bryan young. He read to you straight from his new book. His debut novel healer of the water monster if you'd like to talk with him directly. We sure hope you'll dial in. Give us a ring at one. Eight hundred nine six two eight four eight. that's also one eight hundred nine nine native. Let's go ahead and go to the phone lines and give away our first book. June is on the line in albuquerque. New mexico listening in on. Unm thanks for giving us a ring. Go head you're connected to brian yacht. The hey brian thank you so much for reading writing this book. I look forward to reading it. I lived out on the reservation for a number of years at sweetwater arizona. Water haulers came every day and until then. I had no idea what a hardship it was for so many people to have water and we take it for granted. It's like gold. And i do everything i can to educate people and hope i can use your book as a source of debt and help heal the water munster. Thank you thank you for your call june again. If you'd like to join us one eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number plenty of books. Left to share with you in brian. Any unitel june. Yeah thank you for that comment Part of my experiences growing up in cleaning my grandparents. My muslims oj. Maternal grandparents had cattle on bigger. She and the and we would have to haul water for them to drink. Water in knoxville. Area is border landlocked. And there's no water there so a lot of Nathan struggles with You know living without water mirror my experiences at that time at that age june. Thank you for your call and brian. Water plays a really big role in many many of the moments in the book. And i'm your also teaching us about some of the land to and even contamination and how it can hurt you know such special beings and not only family members Tucked me a little bit about weaving in you know. Some history of what has happened to the land in challenges to clean water. Anything you wanna share brian. of course well definitely Being indigenous implies that there is an inherent relationship in the land that the mountains are wholly Ab not there are holy being either live there or did an important bent there as a young kid. When my grandma. And grandpa and i were traveling looking for cows they often put to hill. And say that's where certain holy being resides or in a valley. That's where the warrior twins thought this monster so growing up like that. There was a tens ability to the creation stories to the traditional story. There was a real that i grew up with and with healer of the water monster. I approached it in the same way. I imagine what it would be like if those creation stories continued from when they ended but didn't and they just kept on going and they kept going into our current modern times and especially with our history of being a resource nation in that a lot of our interactions with the united states government has been for resources such as coal I feel that that has to be brought up. That has to be part of the conversation. We're talking about land the health of the land and i feel that's why a lot of non navajo authors. Who wants to use the culture forgets that. In addition to the traditional stories they are pegged to the land in. The land has a history. The land has a lived experience. If you are going to evoke the traditional stories the holy being you have to pay homage to what they are have endured back in those traditional stories and are currently enduring are modern times with those resource extractions and with healer. The water monster. I don't mind toilet too much but there is That conversation of what affects are happening. Not only to the land from those sorts extractions but what is happening to those holy beings. Because as i as i said earlier a certain holy being lived on that mountain. So if you were to dig into that amount and how does it not only affect the trees. The animals houses affect the holy being that lives in that mountain. And think putting these together is really important in. We know a lot of people grow up with this kind of education. And maybe some what he just said stirred something up in you and you'd like share some thoughts with him. You can give us a ring. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is number bryan. Young is with us. Today he's our featured author and we're talking about the book healer of the water monster. Let's go ahead and take another call. We have indra who is on the line in arizona tuned in on ku. Why i i think she's a copy. Thanks giving us a ring year on here bryan young. It's a blessing to Hear your voice today and i'm shipping up because it It's it's really difficult to find someone who knows our creation story and our creations. Theories are often are young ones are are not are not here with us. And and they're easy to the tv to see the tv and The latest music which are native songs have have no connections with. It's just a blessing to hear someone that that has the education on our creation story answers about it to get it out there. 'cause that's our younger ones me that needs to be educate on our on our history. Thank you very well. Thank you for your call and brian anti you wanna tell her. Thank you thank you so much for that. I definitely feel a lot of our kids. Have the opportunity to learn the stories and find value in them. I definitely sounds value in the traditional stories and the teachings that they imparting on me. And i feel if it wasn't for haji naboth and the warrior twins stories. I wouldn't have enabled to get through my education experience at yale and columbia. Thank you for that indeed end now we go to malachi whose in wit springs new mexico tuned in on cagey lp. Thanks for giving us a ring. Go ahead you're on air. Yes i would like to like how you said earlier that you somewhere like somewhere near for defiance and you used to visit the library i would like to ask if you would like go back to like. Take a big visit back to. They got libraries and like read a book. You wrote like this book right now. sign other books and just like give away other books. That thank you mallika. Thanks for reaching out brian. Go ahead yes that is in the works. I do to cova. My publicist doesn't want to do any in person events so a largely i have been doing a lot of virtual events but as things progress and numbers go down and as covert starts to become more contained. I do intend on coming back to the net pakeha navajo homelands and surrounding areas. Interact more with people but as of right now. My publicist isn't very active. Because of the cove situation in brian. I'm also told that malachi is a young reader. Anything you wanna tell him specifically read read read reading is gonna take you so far and you can also be a hero. You are not worthless. You can be a hero of the story. Thank you for that and again malachi calling more good to hear your voice. Let's go to another caller. We have think it's madeleine in albuquerque new mexico tuned in on 'em. Thanks for giving us room go ahead. You're on air. Hi brian Madeleine here commuting. santa fe to albuquerque. And i'm just listening to the radio. And i feel so happy that i got to hear about the story and your future strode and i feel so grateful that we are all having opportunity to be heroes and water protectors and i wanted to ask you. If you have any illustrations that go along with your book okay right not to have anything illustration for the book is as the right now. Currently just a middle grade novel about three hundred sixty pages but Szanto ba- gate did the artwork for the cover and it is astonishing is stunning and beautiful. And anything beyond i could have ever imagined. I'm so thankful for szanto contribution to healer of the water mobster. Meddling thank you for your call and again lanes are open. Join us one. Eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. We have six books left and something that Malcolm made me. Think of and and i know you're very passionate about access to good reads Access to books by indigenous authors too and bryan tucked me. More about this of of your one day dream of giving good access to our young readers especially there in the nomination or innovative nations. Well okay i have been exceedingly. Blessed to be have been published by one of the big four one of the big publishers in the world. Harpercollins heart drum is an imprint of harpercollins and with that there are so many resources that smaller publishing houses don't really have access to such as You know getting into bookstores. Such as barnes and noble. And i have been kind of going across the south west albuquerque phoenix flagstaff. And i happen seeing Healer of the water monster on those book store shelves. And that's been a lovely amazing experience for me. That was one of my goals. Was having my book on barnes and noble but i i have been Uncovering is that these. Big cities have access to the stories but the navajo nation didn't the chaos and the people living on their don't have that same access. It's not as readily readily accessible. Because they have to travel to these big border towns where there is Like an indie bookstore. Or there is a barnes and noble or the only other option. Assume haven't mail. And because of that. I know that there are a number of navajo young readers that aren't getting being able to get getting exposed to it so i'm trying to do right. Now is find on a structure an infrastructure of distribution to directly on the keio and that's been Kind of challenge. But hopefully what. I'm learning and what i'm doing will provide a pathway for future navajo authors. Who wants to write for young navajo ears that they'd be able to use this infrastructure that i'm hoping to find well i'm excited to hear you know what would becomes of all that Very exciting to be talking with bryan young today. He is our featured author of the name. His debut novel is healer of the war. Munster if you'd like to talk with him directly now's the time to dial in. We have a handful of books to share with you. When you share your comments on air and of course ask your questions to Go ahead give us a ring. One eight hundred nine six eight. Four eight is the number. We'll learn more about some of the other characters that move this story today But again we're ready to hear from you. Go ahead and dial us now. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. I look forward to hearing from you. Smoking gave me. Copd which makes it harder and are for me to breathe. Have a tip for you. If your doctor gives you five years to live spend it talking with your grandchildren explained to him. That your grandpa's not gonna be around anymore to share his wisdom. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I'm running out of time. Copd makes it harder and harder to breathe and can cause death. You can quit for free. Help call one eight hundred quit now. A message from the centers for disease control and prevention. Thanks for tuning. Into native. America calling interrogate would and in the book. Healer the water monster. The main character nathan faces a lot of things and he's also very brave in that bravery Gives him a journey of a lifetime and he also does some figuring out in any figures out that his self worth is worth a lot and that kind of story Is something that often. We like to share with our young people. They have a lot of war That we need you that your life is important and when we have books matt do this and also invite in a native space. What do you think that does for our youth. And if you're a young reader what do you think about. That gives us a ring. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. The author of this book is with us. Brian young and brian. i got another caller. Who would liked to talk with you. So let's go ahead and bring him in. We have a lane in dosing new mexico tuned in on casey. I e thinks. Reach out your connected to brian. Get afternoon Brian this is elaine. I'm very interested in a copy of the book. Because i have several grandchildren ranging from thirteen to two years old and i'd like a copy of it for them and i like to see for i can purchase one or have a copy and i'm very proud and amazed that you have written this story and i can't wait to read it elaine. Thanks for reaching out in. You know what you're one of our tents. A one will definitely be coming directly to you and brian of course if there our listeners who do want to know how to connect with you in the book. Where did they find it so. Of course i have my author website. Brian l. young dot com and i am pretty active on facebook Bryan young or be young right w. r. i t. e. s. Also on instagram at be young rights again b. y. o. u. n. g. w. our it es and occasionally on twitter Be young and this is where i. I couldn't get the screen name. So it's like we trust so Yeah being rights as already claims and so it's like trust or something like that be why Oh u. n. g. w. r. i t. r. e. s. I believe is how on twitter right. Well there you go Happy reading in lane in when you're young people get there is in this book If you want to write a review or have them rights review were always open ears on that you can always reach out to us. Comments at native america calling dot com. Let's go ahead and say hello to another one of our caller. Celeste is an albuquerque. New mexico tune in on k. Unm celeste. thanks for giving us a ring. Go ahead you're on the air. Hi i'm really interested in story. And i Tutor kids through the oasis program in albuquerque. And although it's not specifically for natives. I really try to bring different cultural ideas to anglo and hispanic kids as well and i would love to help get your book into schools and school library and get it to you acis library and just get it out there to more children. I think it's wonderful. What you're writing. Sounds great celeste. Thank you for that and we. Now go to jessica who in leech. Lake minnesota tuned into day. Jessica thank you for giving us a ring go ahead. You're connected to brian. I just wanted to make a comment. i was. I'm very thankful for your program today. i just wanted to say that i had a i had a calling in my heart to drive To the rotter protects your camp it was By for falls. And i have no idea. Sorry but i'm just. I'm just driving and listening to the program and it makes me feel it i. I don't know words to explain it. But it's really great hearing Everything and the topic and it all just really helps helps my soul to hear things like this. So thank you move jessica. Sounds like a lot of things connecting for you Wish you safe. Travels and brian eighty. You wanna tell either. Jessica or celeste. Yeah thank you so much for being receptive to nathan and his journey yet there. There's a lot of emotions to the topics that are being discussed in my book. Typically with No dapple was pretty high. When i was doing another revision and selling it to Publishing houses so this is a very current topic of water protection in water conservation. And i definitely feel that Having a broad exposure to different cultures and different Mindsets and philosophies help children Become more compassionate and ready to tackle on a whole plethora of challenging topics. Indeed and even one of your characters ties directly due to some of this standing up for the environments enough for the water Tell us more about this special character. Go ahead brian. Which one talking about data protest okay. The mother character. Her name is janet She actually doesn't play as much of a role as i wanted her to. In this book but she does participate in Protests but i can say i am working on the follow up or sequel to healer of the water monster and janet does play a much bigger role in this upcoming story. Well there you go listeners. Stay tuned in brian You know there are a couple of other characters that bryan calls on To you know that that very significant stories and bring about other issues in other Topics that you know being able to present something like this is is opening a lot Anything you wanna share about the other characters. We meet in the book definitely i. I'd love to talk about uncle jet because his story and his hewing also mirrors pond with who is the water monsters journey towards health as well uncle jets. is nathan's father's younger brother and in the navajo way that relationship Nathan would referred to uncle as sadda- or no. Yeah she's my my younger father and uncle would refer to nathan as my son so with that punk. Jack is a former marine who had served overseas and in my initial draft. I had uncle jet as a veteran of the iraqi freedom tour but my editor suggested that i not reference the iraqi freedom tour because that would peg the story to a very specific time in very specific place and she said that if i weren't to peg it in that way then future generations could Easily attach or attach more easily to that story line of Alcoholic or substance dependence family member and so i thought about the future generations and made that compromise of okay if your kids because you know a lot of native kids encounter family members friends who are suffering from substance dependency. So i wanted to be able to open that storylines future generations as well and in addition to healing the water monster nathan takes it upon himself to convince uncle jets to participate in a ceremony or any way ceremony to help combat some of the habits and negative emotions that he brought upon himself while serving across the ocean. And you know. His journey is is also about Considering all options to heal in you make a big you know or or it comes up a lot of other things that we have to do this and always find it interesting that some of the healing is coming from Support from family. And you know the different programs that we have done Talking about this people who are living with addiction in their journey and we talk about that supports circle in and it was really great to just kind of see How we also. We've our young people into this and again you said that the young person is the hero in all of this so i'm allowed going on in a no. There are more people who like to chat with you so you know what. Let's go back to the phone lines We're going to go ahead and go to run. Who's an albuquerque new mexico listening in on. Kfi am run. Thanks for reaching out your on air high employees taking my call. I just gotta say that This is a wonderful adaptation of of what you actually have experienced through your lifetime and it's it's touching in the back that you know you grew up that by and know quite a bit of how people Especially who people not in particular but young people as a whole in protein life and what has all obstacles and definitely definitely addiction is one of them and what you've taken these subjects and part of your life experiences and transferred them into something people can actually identify with and i guess my main question would be have you considered or thought about maybe making a video or a movie of of that type of of Experiences you know. I know it. It's it's so great in and its own a. I would imagine a lot. Younger people could really identify if you were to think of Adopt india storyline to a movie production. Run he is so ready for this question. Brian go ahead for someone. Say this Actually healer the water monster started off as a to our future links scripts I was living in albuquerque new mexico at the time working in the native film industry and at that time a lot of us were working for free on each other's movies as like directors producers actors. Anything and everything. And i kind of gravitated towards the scriptwriting but whenever we would approach executive producers are people with finances or the ability to finance their movies at that time we were encountering this prejudice notion that there is no native audience there are no markets for native voices so when i was writing the first draft of healer of the water monster i knew that i would be encountering that wall again at racist mentality that there's no market for native stories and so that is actually why i decided to a book and needed to get an msa from columbia university in creative writing so that i could learn how to write a book and not script but yes long story short. This is kind of my overall plan with healer of the water. Monster is to demonstrate that there is indeed a market for native voices hashtag navajo voice hashtag own voices and in addition to demonstrating that. Hopefully if this book is successful enough. I can use the money from the book to produce on my own film interpretation of this story. Because that's how i envisioned at first but again A lot of it just comes down to the power and finances of who can produce a movie because they aren't very affordable they're very expensive productions so and with this story is like i feel that do justice. I'm going to need a lot of money. So long story. Short yes It is in my career plans to eventually do film. Cinematic interpretation of the wall monster. Brian net is really excited. Ron hey thanks for asking that in just considering the conversation we just had yesterday where You know reservation. Dogs is premiering and you know. It's it's there and we're going to see how much of a pool a native story story brings in and we already kind of got a prelude to that too With rutherford falls another program that we took a look at In there making a second season they got the green light. And and we know how this works to you know There's got to be an interest if if people are going to invest in a second season In so rather for rutherford falls got their second one in so brian at think we are definitely interesting. Times of seeing this is a reality of seeing yes native stories are what people wanna hear One read wanna see very interesting l. Let's take another call. We got jin in athens. Texas tuned in online things are going to serene jin real quick your thoughts. Thank you sir. Appreciate you taking my call A cherokee activist living in east texas. I've lived other places and been activism many years. I love that Brian is writing for the youngsters to become Activists and i want to congratulate him for getting on the bookshelves. Barnes and noble and yet it's even more important getting the books to read so that's awesome but in listening to I'd like to encourage him to and he probably will. Anyway have audio books. Because when i'm reading a nave authors Are listening to a native authors own voice. it's very important to me whether it's cherokee are in scott mama day or it. I like it in in their reading their own shirt. You know a lot. Lot opens up when you get to hear from that author directly and brian. Thanks for reading for us today to. I'm real quick anything. You wanna leave us with anything you wanna tell jin. Real quick yes. There is already an audiobook. Version of healer of water monster by sean taylor corvette identifies with the blackfoot nation. And we spent a week working together with me. 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Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Chapter 13 The Jedi

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Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Chapter 13 The Jedi

"Hello everyone and welcome slash on daily for friday november. Twenty second twenty twenty on today's episode Spoiler filled discussion on the fifth episode of disney. Plus the mandalorian season two entitled the djeddai this slash on editor in chief. Peter surata in his podcasts slash. Home weekend editor right omen in special guest from star wars insider star wars dot com. The full podcast and all site called slash com. Bryan young Hey how's it going okay so before we get into this episode. Wasn't upset guys. We have a ton of Things to catch up on some feedback and updates from last week's episode so It's going to be a longer episode than even our normal long episodes. Okay so last week. I mentioned that there was some rumblings that those troopers at the end of the last episode could be dark troopers and Brian i think you have a confirmation. Yes so if you go to the audio description version of the episode the audio text voice. There says that they are indeed. Dirk troopers ya In that basically is the virgin. For i guess a blind or hard of seeing. Yes that's just one of the audio tracks available on on disney plus which is which is really great service and now. I'm going to have to start watching that way as well like i watch it the first time without anything and then the second time with subtitles and then the third time with subtitles and audiotex description. And it'll just offer more information. But i you know they. They are dark troopers. It would have been nice if we could have just gotten one close up that would that would make us feel that that because i think that would have been a hell of a real reveal. It felt like one of those things. I was supposed to be a reveal and then i like catcher looked at me and she was like what are those you know. I don't know what those are. So they look big black stormtroopers They're not death troopers. yeah i like you that. Watch watch the episode with the subtitle on so they can get have bits and pieces that you don't really get from just the audio you you'll get character names that are not never spoken ever on the show So in and getting correct spellings helps when you're trying to cram review really fast. You also get some analogy on Baby yoda's like what his coups and stuff sometimes like. He gets like a what they're going for even like you know it's most of the time obvious but sometimes like you know i. It's more specific. In what what he's saying there's one when he was there was episode where he was the diner. It said in brackets demands. Whiskey which would probably mentioned. brad's kidding. I i was wearing watching last week's episode and one thing. I forgot to talk about really quick. I just love the the world building in the show. Even though like we've seen like ravines like star wars before i love it. This is like a wada. Ravine like had like a whittal like pathway of lava. And of course it's on the varroa which is like a lotta planet but The the production designer they are the art design of this like the show is just great and something. I didn't even notice the first two times. I was watching that host chase sequence so Another thing. I think we forgot to mention last week By forgot to mention. I didn't even notice it until you know. It three times and then someone was like oh did you see that thing in the background was like no in navarro. There is a statue of iddi eleven. Did you guys see that. Yeah i caught. I caught people posting about that and went back and looked at it when i went back and looked for shirt man. What do you think about. The statue. I mean is that we just made like you know. Obviously he killed himself in service of saving the planet right well. Is it saving the planet or is it saving grief. Who's now the magistrate of that town and can put statues up of whatever he wants fair. Enough yeah. Let's talk about the t shirt man. So that's another thing. We didn't notice in the background. On one of the scenes there is a crew member. Those wearing a tee shirt and jeans and sneakers can be seen like peeking off from the left side of the screen. This has since been corrected like yeah. Yeah you can't see it anymore. You just have to hear the tales or see the you know. Some people have screen shots and memes My my funniest one was An artist basically took that little sliver of the krimmer side of the the his body and imagined what an alien creature could look like. That might have. That is the front of its face. So they they they explain to non canon that that's actually just like this weird looking alien creature and it's not like a guy and james i kind of love. The nerdiness of bats Someone else wrote in pointed out that In the classroom scene oh Last week i mentioned the classroom took place in the cantina brian. You said i was wrong. I said i said. I didn't think it was and then re watching it. It's pretty obvious that it is well. So much for our star wars an expert. I guess you know it's it's it's demanding having to watch these so quickly and then turn over like all kinds of cogent analysis right job. You do a great job. I was pretty sure it was because of the line of mando was like there's some line about like the turned this into that kind of thing but i was not quite sure But someone wrote in that one of the kids. One of the girls in the classroom has raised trademark hairstyle. I picked up on that. But it didn't i mean there's a lot of multi bund hair people just in star wars so it feels like it's lost a little bit of its specialness. I guess to to point out every time somebody has buns in their hair multibeam to hire people new band name called it But it isn't ray because the timelines don't match up with the agent stuff like that. It's just You know i mean. I guess people around the galaxy. That's like common air. Yeah well and this'll blow people's minds but this is actually a planet called navarro and not jackou hard to tell with auto sand is around. Well i mean to be fair ryan i. I'm not gonna argue you point but like you know there are things called league loft cats which are local the lawful and now now they're like everywhere star wars galaxy siamese cats in america. You also want to get into the fact that those were two cats. Oh were they okay. Well we'll get to that when we get there. He did we mention the thing from before with With the tank and the stuff where people thought. Oh smoke link. Yeah let's give into that. Yeah let's talk about that. So in the tank there was some failed experiments of this clone. Whatever they were doing the 'em count from the child. And some people think that these are like the predecessors of smoke yet. 'cause there was an image that was going around with that. Showed where you could see one of the heads and had a scar very similar to the one that you see Both on smoke when he is you know in the last year i also want what appears to be a failed version of snow in the tank that we see at the beginning of riser skywalker. When paul patine says you know. I am smoking and i mean that's something that we have raised as a possibility but people have actually gone back and picked out. The notes of snakes. Musical cues in in the score for those moments in this episode. I sincerely sincerely hope that it is more of a subtle thing. Become the driving force of. Oh let's let's like deeply. Explain all of this stuff. 'cause like i know like brian much before but how you know who it is that they've loni has done some interesting things that give a better context or like make a little bit less I dunno sheep like certain aspects of the star wars movies that feel like they don't really fit in well end like a lot of i've people obviously think you know Return things like that. And the rise of skywalker are something that maybe need a little bit of like ret conning were not necessarily pulling back order more explanation exactly and so by but i hope that this is more so just like a very subtle thing so that it's like. Oh so here's maybe where the origins that came from. It's not like purely going to be like an in depth explanation as this is how that'll happen. I don't think we'll get an in depth explanation. But i think especially since march gideon is after this child i met a koreans medical orients however you pronounce it And i think this show is partially like one of the sub of the show is showing. How the you know the the crumbles of the empire is going to become the first order. Would you agree on that brian. I don't actually think so At this point in time line race loan and armitage hawks or tax general. Hawks says dad have already gone to the unknown regions to start building that power base and start working In earnest on star killer which was a program that palpitation had already put together. But after jack who that main remnant of the imperials left and they left very specifically with all of that stuff to the unknown regions. And i think that the reveal at the end of this new episode of chapter thirteen the jet. I actually gives us a better clue. Of whom off gideon might actually be working with her four and what that power base is there and that they might not be related to the first order at all and what they're really doing is setting up the seeds for heir to the empire or in heir to the empire likes story with iran coming back with his with his fleet. Now we'll talk about that later upset when he gets up point But it's an interesting thought Let's talk about the the macaroni machines. Mccoy owns macaronesian. Macaroni president. i hate the pronunciation of both the okay Macaroni that's how you pronounce it right. Yeah i'm getting it right So pointed out that they could be blue milk macron's which makes me like them a little bit more well. It's kinda of like weirded out. I was like why do we have this. This food from earth in the star wars galaxy but now that they're blue milk macaroni. And then maybe that makes them more star wars. According to williams sonoma they are called navarro enemies and up to fifty dollars if you want. Twelve of them yeah. That's such a disappointing. We talked about this but like i'm kind of disappointed with the creativity that name they could at that price they could have been called canto bites but they're not from canto i mean they're they're macron's they're not from star wars either that the thing i'm wondering about is like a kid. He must have like. I know he's in the public school system. He's like being taught in like a converted. Cantina where people used to get drunk but somehow gets enough credits to buy these these very expensive Navarro nominees from a williams-sonoma. His parents fifty bucks fans are empire supporters. At the money. I will say is expensive as they are. I have seen some macken shops that sell single single. Macaroni like four or five bucks each. So if you're getting twelve for fifty bucks. It's i'm not gonna say it's a deal. It's not a deal. Yeah i mean. I feel like there's there's a difference between getting fresh from like a nice bakery as opposed to getting them. You know shit from williams sonoma for fifty dollars. would you like some macron's with your with your spatula order. I will say this i. I actually ordered these because we're going to video on ordinary adventures about them so i can I act you would fund and you told me brad already spent fifty bucks is. I'm not going to spend one hundred dollars. You better send me one next day air. So i can. I can talk about a daily. I am the food guy by. We'll say this when when you order them on williams-sonoma it actually tells you that like This order is non refundable because you're actually placing a order for a product. That's going to be made made for you like it's basically made on demand so it isn't like a prepackaged thing not to say that it's like a fresh macaroni on the you'd get from like you know expensive store noticed. There was something in the notes to on the product page. They do ship it either frozen or chilled depending on the time of the year. So maybe that comes into the consideration of the cost in also makes it seem really Arrogant of them to think that they're going to be shipping them through another season. By that time there's going to be another interesting space food from star wars. That people will be hooked on okay What else do we talk about. I'm pulling up my notes here The see what else you mentioned a lot of the smoke stuff. So i'm going over that they're okay. There has been a report recently that the mandalorian spinoff show Is going to focus on bobo fats. this comes from reliable origins. I'm not going to say that it's true but there's Some people supposedly casts on this project jordan vulgar in sofia thatcher From the one hundred in chicago med Who might have supporting roles So there's that. I just wanted to mention that just You know because you know happened last week. Even though i don't think we report outs mccown because We need a little bits more credibility before report something And the other thing. I wanted to mention was. Sasha banks She recently had interviewer. She confirmed that chapter. Eleven is our own wing mandalorian season two appearance. So that she she says the straight out that that's the only time we're going to see her that season so What does that mean. Brian do like are. We not gonna see book on the season. I mean i. I still feel like we're building toward an an ending. That's that's going to pit bull raton moth gideon but where You know sasha banks is character is is anybody's guess maybe maybe boca raton sends her off in some direction or another. There's something else to do. Or we see her with just her helmet on and it was a stunt performer. Like brandon wayne might do for You know the mandalorian himself because she doesn't feature with lines in any of the roles and You know as a producer doing that sort of thing with masked characters seems reasonable. I also want us to save money. Alpha wonder if they're going to slow roll at too because Giancarlo esposito mention a while back that like there would be you know answers or like Certain new things down the road that wouldn't be revealed until like third or fourth season so i wonder if they're just doing a thing where like they're they're just like setting the stage for things to happen later on won't necessarily get like a huge confrontation by the end of the season because clearly the emphasis is still on mando in the child because even with this episodes reveal of brain back asuka. It's clear that it's like they're not intending her to stick around and keep continuing to pop up a lot on mandalorian could be something that is you know. Also setting up for a potential spinoff Something like that But yeah. I wonder if they're going to let play longer than just you just the season i think it just goes against what i was anticipating. Gerrad this like. I dunno sneaking suspicion that like the last episode of the season that the night owls were gonna come to the rescue like in a dire moment or something like that like i. I felt like that's what they were being set up for but maybe they were just being set up at for the season to send men though on his way to define the jedinak so If you would like to read about Katie offs approach to playing catan in live action. You can read our interview that we had with her from earlier this week. Okay i'll link that in the show note another article. I think you might depend this week. Brad was that disney announced the second season of the gallery series. Yes also disney. The technically disney announces except disney in the us. Didn't i don't know if they were trying to keep it secret. What but apparently disney australia Tease one of the titles. That's coming to disney. Plus in december is a second season mandalorian documentary series. And it's supposed to start on christmas day. Which is the week after The the second season finale of season to wear. Oh well that's good to know. Because i really enjoyed the first season of disney gallery. I just hope it's like actually people around the table and not like ones zoom because they feel like that's a that's harder to have like real conversations right shot the The impression i got. When i was listening to them talking in that first season that they shot it pretty early on like Maybe maybe like almost immediately after they were done shooting the first season so i think that they probably would have had enough time to get out of the way before any pandemic hasn't even if if if not i wouldn't be surprised if they were shot in a very socially distanced way too. Yeah i'm not sure if a lot of people out there don't know this or not but usually because of scheduling to get like all these people in a room together usually when you like record an audio commentary for dvd or any of the like feature s or something that they're real usually shot alongside either the production of the film or tv show or at the junket so way before you end up seeing it on the home video release. Yeah and i definitely get the impression get mandalorian gallery season. One was shot sort of concurrently with what they were doing on set for the first season and season two did wrap shooting before everybody got locked down so i wouldn't be surprised if if yeah it it looked just like season one. Okay so we got a couple of emails here. Wanted to read really quickly and from washington d. c. in brad asked whether every member of iota species speaks backwards the same way. Yoda does while. I'm not aware of any legends material that included yellow speaking. I immediately thought of master van dr from nature of the old republic He has yet as vocal style. He played by tom. Kaine who voices. Yoda in coin. Wars all video games But there's an employee seemed backwards. Referencing grammar so they have it so there are well. I guess he's not cannon though right now he he wouldn't be he wouldn't be cannon. We'll talk about more or not cannon knights of their old republic stuff through this episode to. I'm sure going to be. i'm kidding. so yeah But i i. I read a really interesting take from a linguist about this and they said that like the way people speak really has to do with their formative years and their accents and things they pick up from the people who raise them in or and if grow gu You know picked this up from iota that would be a possibility during some of those formative years although it seems like some of his memories hazy but it seems more likely that he would pick up a a verbal style. More like the mandalorian if that's who he sort of imprinting on his at wor yeah. I think that's fair enough David from socal rates in the yesterday watching star wars episode to attack of the clones with my daughter. When she asked me why does iota have regular human is one baby. Yoda is are solid black. The only thing i could come up with was maybe because baby. Yoda hasn't reached puberty yet. Actually wanted to pose that question. You guys that. I remember where i picked this up but a humans is stay the same size From birth to when they grow up which is why babies is look a lot more fuller as well. And so i from what i can gather. Probably because of that is that iota is just baby. Yoda the child is just so small. That is you. Don't see the white around his his people in the color of as i The same way that you do iota. I like that theory brian. Do you have any other possible. We've only met like literally to other representatives of the species like anything could be possible the same way like you know. Every time we see new tweet licks. They're in different colors right like maybe they've got different is According to different regions that they grew up in or like however the hell boss nass and jar jar part of the same species. Yeah fair enough okay. I think we've gone almost Over twenty minutes or almost twenty five minutes here guys. We have not gotten to the episode. So let's let's start things out with our brief thoughts on season two episode five. I'll give you my thoughts. This season has been unreal. This like i liked season. One of the men wearing. But i feel like the season is like taking it up multiple multiple times better. I i want to be you just comparing things. But i've just loved almost every single. I've loved every episode of the season. i love doing more star. Wars lore. I i'm here for and it's not just like you know big cuts the mainstream fans will recognize there's like Like you said. Brian stuff from like mates. The older republic stuff from comic books stuff from rebels and clone wars that. I think interestingly enough. I think a lot of people are going to be watching this and then be like. Oh i'm going to go. you know. Now give this animated series a chance. I wanna know you know. With ron and asuka is so i i don't know i i'm i guess most of all. I was impressed by the shot. Compositions of this episode like it felt very curse our i'm brian. I'm sure you're gonna be talking about that later. and i am really impressed by baloney who directed two episodes of last season. I know i said the same thing of a brace styles. howard but I was really unimpressed. Like i am a big fan of phony. What he is done in the animated series. I think he's a phenomenal I think You know what he is able to do with visual storytelling in mythical storytelling is just like you know amazing. But i was freely unimpressed with him as a live action director in the first i think he did the pilot episode. Or you know those called the mandalorian and he did the other upset where they went to tattooing like if felt like the worst case scenario of like putting too many fan inside fan things in there But this is like by far in credit like this. This feels like the work of a different live action director. I'm really will. Maybe they switch do second unit director. Yeah but it wrong in saying that it feels like like night and day compared to his first season efforts. No i felt very much the same way. And i don't know if that's because he was a little bit more unsure of himself in live action in foxborough was kinda holding the reins a little bit more of this felt much more unfiltered baloney. This felt very much You know having conversations with the guy over the years it has his sort of interesting fingerprints of filmmaking. And inspirations on it as well as that mark of stuff that that he was into. Because of george lucas or You know it's baloney. Baloney told me once in an interview. That like the way you talk to george. Lucas is by talking through other movies and referencing other movies And i think that. That's part of the language of star wars. And i think that in those first episodes that he did it was just sort of generic rather than the things that made him really passionate about film star wars. And i think all that's on display here in this episode. I i love the concept that like george lucas. It's almost like an alien who visited earth and he's only able to communicate through like cinema references that it would not surprise me at all What did you think of this episode. Brian i really enjoyed it. I was really surprised by the fact that they didn't really hold the surprises. I was sort of shocked that we got a soak as quickly as we did. And how that whole situation played out was it felt very you know like when you talk about what you wanted a good storytelling. That feels surprising but inevitable. That's kind of how this felt. It was know everything had built to this moment So far But it was still managed. It was still managed to You know surprise. And yeah the filmmaking was just it was really good and i really love all the kurasawa in it's got so much thrown a blood in you jimbo that it just. It just made me happy in those ways brad. Your thoughts on this said yeah. This was a fantastic episode. You know and Much in the same way that when the the introduction of polka thanh into live action came about it's a similar thing here with a soak. I feel like you. You don't really need to have seen cone wars Or even star wars rebels to get full on you know why she's important You know where where she's at in you know star wars canon and whatnot like even if you just understand the you know the the very basic you know idea of the fact that she was once of apprentice. That's really all you need to know for like some of the things she says to have significance. You don't need this tech history. It will definitely make it better for you if you do. Go watch those things. But i like how they're they're digging into. You know the the deeper star wars mythos and other things beyond the movies but they're not required viewing for the more casual star wars fan. I think Probably appreciate that too. Yeah it was just. It's so cool to see her in In live action. And to see how. You know mandatory intersects with You know other parts of the star wars universe. There's a lot of crazy huge revelations here and like he said peter the shot quarterly like there are multiple shots. Here that are just. They look like paintings. They look gorgeous Especially as some of the the darker. Night-time stuff it's Yeah it's it's a very well-made episode. I was also impressed. By felonious improvement over the quality of the previous episodes. He directed And real quickly before. We get any emails about this. Because now i i was on the dummy. If i don't correct this the thing about is not growing isn't accurate apparent. Apparently it's it's it's a very popular like thought. I guess i don't know where it came from is do growth when your baby and then they significantly around puberty which is probably why that email was phrased that way but i made sure to look that up because i was like because i knew i'd heard it before but i had to make sure it was accurate and i both do grow so now while i'm still because i just believed you like ooh that's like that's crazy. Okay let's get into. I guess let's get into this week's episode. Let's do the beat by beat thing. I think we talked By the way this episode forty six minutes long so i like doing more longer episodes. The season So this episode begins Though armed gongs are ringing. People running We see this very Imperialist egion inspired city But you know through the lens of star wars. Actually yeah brian. Do you want to talk about the inspiration of like the city that we're seeing here. The city and the whole planet really feel very much like kershaw was thrown of blood especially with sort of the the broken trees in the missed that you see especially in the beginning when the witches arrive in that retelling of macbeth but it has the the city itself. Looks very much like the city in your jimbo. But with the the ralph macoris sorta domes everywhere and so it looks like it's pulled right out of You know if if if ralph macquarie were designing kurosawa's star wars. That's really the the vibe that it gets across the whole city and the planet. It's kind of interesting because didn't rise. A skywalker have like one of the planet's there was supposed to be kinda cursed our inspired. Jimmy jimmy was and it does have those sorts of Japanese flourishes to it in the same way. But i think i think it's more effective here to be honest. Yeah and i'm a fan of reading skywalker. And i actually think that this is way more effective doing that Okay so as you said. Brian soak it shows up within the first couple seconds. The this episode takes out some scout guards in a forest which looks like it hasn't been alive for years and she using to white sabers and a bad ass fashion First of all. I'm i'm surprised like you that they just you know they just gave us her like reta right off the bat. They didn't make make us wait for. I guess they did because they mentioned two ago. But yeah. I'm surprised that This also confirms My scoop that rosario dawson was going to be playing soka which many boys told me i was wrong making stuff up and turns out. I was not I'm not. I'm not mad. I'm not bitter but I guess let's talk about rosario dawson as a soka In what you guys thought of her. Because i i think she looks like the like. She looks like a soka. When when i reported the story that rosario is going to be playing the character the Some fan backlash because Well there's two different types of backlash but some van backlash because people love eksteen who voices the character in cohen wars and rebels and They were disappointed that she wasn't going to be the voice of a soak in this live action series. And at the time. I was like no. Let's let's see what resort rosario could actress. I'll say as rosario looks the part and she looks like i'm not mad at her. A live action asuka. I am missing voice a little bit. You yeah no i. I definitely felt that disconnect to where it's like oh cool it's a soco and then as soon as he starts talking it's like oh it's only sort of a soka and i think they smooth that out or they tried to smooth that out with a couple of different things i i think it was really great to hear notes of a circus music in the score especially as as ludwick goeransson like Or however you pronounce it i i'll i'll work on figuring out how to pronounce it because i feel like we'll talk about him a lot over the course of more of these but it's really haunting. How he's able to sort of insert her herbert of the score and the way her dialogue is written is very much. The way the dialogue would be written for ashley eckstein. But there's just something different about it. And i don't know i can't tell if that's just because ashley is so tied to the character that i'm wishing for that and that's the only way i've ever experienced the character or if it's because i'm just you know just not used to it yet and if we get more of rosario dawson as a soka that i'll become accustomed to it and be able to separate between the two but this being the first taste. It just feels a little awkward brad. What did you think of as long as a rosario. yeah. I liked her most and honestly like i. Obviously you know the the difference invoice can be rather jarring but i think you know what works is that you know. A lot of time has passed since you know we have seen this. Okay in the star. Wars timeline. And i feel like she would be caring herself. A little bit differently Things happen. And there's i think there's more of a A calm confidence in in a soka that may be has taken hold over the years After all the things that have happened. And i think that reserved performance. I think it is a lens well to that idea and i also do wonder not to discredit actually seen in any way whatsoever. If the reason they went with someone like rosario instead of actually seen is because of it can be challenging for somebody who has only voiced a character in animation to make the jump to live action in my interview with katie sack off. I talked to her about this. And she mentioned How how much more challenging. It was than she thought it would be to play a time in live action. Because she's not able to move Physically the same way to get to the doing what. She's doing her lines and expressing herself because She's very expressive person. Katie staff office but for boca. Thanh like you. She can't move around in the same way to get you know the right inflection. On certain lines to you know to put that emotion into it and so she has to be stoic in her movement and much more subdued than she might be few reporting lines in a sound booth so i do wonder if you know no matter how gifted an actress actually invoice if maybe that's something. She thought she wouldn't be able to do physically as the as the character and that reside doesn't presence was more imposing in confidence and i wonder if part of it too is. That socha is very Coded as a person of color and putting red paint on a white actress might have smacked a not. I not anywhere near as much black face but might have smacked something that it's like. Hey this is a part that that looked designed to after a person of of ethnicity in that. Maybe maybe actually wouldn't fit it that way. I don't necessarily think that ashley. Ashley probably could have done it. But you know there's probably a thousand reasons that they decided to go the way they did. You don't think i don't know to meet. Seems like it's it's all about physicality in like maybe her not being like tall enough or imposing an. I mean if that were like she seemed like such a nice person. I've met her so many times i like. She's such a great person but like i'm not sure on screen like she would lose bad ass jet i even. I even seen senior celebration when she holds like the to asuka white sabers and stuff and the poses rape like. When you put her next other people she might seem a lot small. I mean. I guess she sees a lot smaller in the clone wars. I mean that's that's that's true but at the same time if that were i think if that were the big issue than because obviously i think it's it's not just as getting those moves are having the the intimidation but like it's their physical acting. You don't realize it is a big part of the of the performance. And so i maybe her her appearance in general. I think what. Brian says Too but like if it were just about her size. And i think that you know then. Tom cruise wouldn't be movie star exactly. Yeah good point I i also think well what do you think of like didn't why didn't they replace. Rosario voice with daschle's voice probably would've just been weird. Yeah it might be strange. And i'm not sure report win. Four or anna. Yeah yeah. I can't imagine ashley saying no to anything A soaker related to be honest But it could also be. I mean like but they've done that with ray park the entire time he's been around but ray park is not the quality of of actor that rosario dawson is either. Yeah i think. We're gonna look like i mean i think this is just jarring czar. I look at her. And i guess it visually i think she is a soak. I think it's just the the audio the voice that's a little bit. I will say too. Is that there is something that is a little bit clumsy here and there about how they translate her movement into live action. Because and i think this is just because the limited limitation of between live action animation. Because the way a soak moves in clone. Wars is superhuman in a way even even more. So than how did i move in other star wars movies With their quick jumps and stuff like that and there were a couple of instances in a sequence when she was like meant to move swiftly in nimbly where it felt kind of like. That's not really what soak it does or how she moves specifically there's one weird thing where she liked takes a quick step up a wall to like kind of get the upper hand on a bad guy. But it's like. She didn't get much height on the person to be necessary. I noticed that as well Okay so the guards can't see her but she's constantly ahead of them out the magistrate demands she quotes showing yourself. Jet is what she yells out Now this is the character played by diana. we you know. Santo and I'm not sure if you guys know this. But she hasn't been in many movies or shows She's better known for her stunt. She's she trained. Rosa salazar for Alita battle angel. She was murdered. Chose stunt double and face off of by wings double while west She was stunt person on blade She's probably sh- she's a daughter of a guy named dan. Enough santo Which i'm probably pronouncing the last name wrong. I apologize who is a well known martial arts instructor. And he's the training partner of bruce lee so though we in her name is actually because she is the goddaughter a bruce lee so she is Martial arts royalty in a way which is kind of interesting This is like i think her. I like big role in a mainstream thing. Some wondering how that happened. I'm sure we'll learn the story later on. But okay one thing one thing i really would love to point out and get your to your take on it but did either of you feel very same. Ramey evil dead two in some of those sequences of her hunting those scout guards in the forest that in predator. And yeah it was like Yeah totally yeah it was. It was yeah it was very very cool the way they did the where she was almost like a jet. I ninja away It's interesting that a soak doesn't deny the title of jet when its proposed are like here and later when mando mentions that. It's not like i dunno. I what does this mean brian like. She's slowing to go along with it. I think arguing semantics about what it means to be a djeddai with the person that you're aiming to murder if necessary to get the information is probably a waste of your time but you'll notice that later when she's actually talking to dean jaren You know he says. I've been quested to take this this little one to the jed eye and she's like the jedi order fell a long time ago which to me said like none of us are jeter anymore like there's no such thing. Yeah no that's fair. Enough okay The magistrate says that she's been expecting her and she knows what she's she she asks a soka. How many wives is the knowledge. I possess worth worth you. And she threatens to kill hundreds asuka basically says under her role that she They're already suffering that she must surrender or meet the consequences. And that's when we get the title of reveal here Chapter thirteen titled the djeddai. Now i i think this one is pretty self explanatory but Bryant is title but a soka or is it about the child's no response. Oh no i. I got the impression it was about the djeddai. In general right lake as she's talking about how the order is fallen it and they're this story really and this again leads into those ideas from the last jedi. I that that how could by the time of raised time the jet. I have fallen so so down that rabbit hole of just being myth and i think this helps build some of that. And i think the jed i is is indicative. Sure it means her to some degree but i also think it has that added layer of meaning of that like especially. Yeah it's plural. Especially when she says like there aren't there aren't a lot of jet. I laughed as she sends them on the next phase of their quest. Okay so mando begins. Landing the razor crests the city of caliban in the on the fours planet. A planet of corvus These are new locations in the star wars galaxy The child seems to be more interested in the joystick knob using his powers unscrew it The ridgecrest lands in the dead forest. And we see some giant creatures in the background eating the trees Bryan have to ask you. Are these creatures new or something. We've seen maybe like the the animated series. I didn't recall seeing them And i couldn't find any in my in my quick sort of search this morning. Find anything about them. I'll keep looking into them. But i didn't. I didn't find anything Well they look cool also that much. Yeah so the head into town and there met at the gate by the guards in the head of security who i learned through subtitles is named elaine and played by michael biehn who is best known as a from aliens and you know played. Kyle recent terminator We haven't seen michael biehn in a long time. I looked this up. And i think his last mainstream role was maybe in grind house in two thousand seven. And that's not really a mainstream movie Maybe michael bay's the rock. So while i was i did an interview with him a few years ago and he seemed very focused on a trying to gain that That hollywood notoriety back but also really focused on doing his own movies. If you look at that string of movies he's in since then it's all really indie fair. That him he and his wife had been producing Okay okay. So mendez shows up. He says he's a hunter in the guild and the opened the gate for him Mid a walks in. That's when we see that like overhang that you're talking about that. Looks like the ralph mcquarry inspired. It almost looks like that. Gate for like jobless palace like From the macquarie concept art. I think right and i think we see something similar to it in force awakens. Am i wrong there No the gate is a little bit reminiscent of the one. Yeah nima outpost. The millennium falcon crashes through. Yeah manda walks through. The town passed odroid of some kind. Is this a of interest. Brian or so i. It's the same model is eighty eight. Which is the droid that tortures the gunk droid and return of the jet. I as i can tell. I'm sure it's like an updated model and some wikipedia wikipedia is going to be able to say actually in and push their the glass up their nose just like i just did But as far as i could tell it's the same make and model but there's nothing particularly special about that. droid okay. So he walks past him and he s a man helping to kids from some information He's interrupted by scout guard telling him the magistrate wants to speak with them and We see three prisoners or chained up to sticks the have rings around him. The shock them. I is there any reference to what they're going with here with these Prisoners so again. This this is very russula right like this is the you know. This is the star wars. Pg version of your enemies heads on spikes as you enter. The layer of the enemy totally So many enters this layer which is a water garden area. It's like a sci fi version of an old imperial easing water temple. I guess or something like that. The magistrate tries to hire mandate to kill agenda. That is bothering her. She explains the jeddah ancient enemy of mandal war and he says prices too high and she presents him with a spear made out of pure best car. That's the same material that makes up his armor. It's material that you'll find out later Even a lightsaber cannot penetrate. Is a spear something. We've seen in previous star wars canon. So i it's it's i thought that it could be as we see soka in the epilogue of rebels. She's carrying a staff about that height but and and for a long time through the episode. I thought that this might be that same staff before she lets the mandalorian go with it but it still could be. It still could be based on that But there's no. There's no specific history about it to to date. It could've just been an easy shorthand. Like hey how can we get this great martial artists to fight a soco with to light sabers and it'd be a fair fight. Well what if we give her a spear best guard right. It's same way like George lucas did that with the magna guards In revenge the seth Where it's just like well. How are they going to chose pose a bigger challenge for the jet. I like well. Let's just make it crackly. Electricity in that can beat off a lightsaber shore. Yeah i know in legends. There's something called a bevy regular. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong. But it's a traditional mandalorian. Spirit used for hunting. But i i'm not quite sure doesn't quite look the same and does also legend so it's probably not that She says he if he can kill the jet. I it's his. He's given the location of a soak and sent on his way I would. I just wanted to mention how beautiful this dead forest looks like this fog which cheats greens and yellows and blues What do you guys think of the art design of this like you know this rotting forest. At first i was a little a little frustrated because it felt like an easy way to make this episode. Cheaper worthy need much detail Till like to fill in the spaces and like it was the murkiness required a lot less. I guess background detail but the the smokiness the setting of it does create Quite a you know a stunning ambience. Especially you know as we see with How they did the lighting in this episode in particular especially nighttime scenes in just their spirits use of certain light sources whether it's know the moon or the little lantern that Whether it's mandatory focus is carrying around but Yeah it's the the forest itself especially the way like the dead trees branch out and everything. They were such gorgeous frame shots in this episode. That were helped. By the how cool the trees looked. And they created you know Framing around the characters and settings and whatnot. This is another Similarity to the rise skywalker. Where we saw the dead forest on mustafar in that opening sequence which i think now in canada's mustafar pablo said somewhere But they kind of take took out the The castle in the background. I know brian. E like looney is great on theme. And i think you have the reason for this location. Yeah like i think Well one of the things is is that it hearkens back a little bit too. Dagoba like sort of deadened degas but also Is really like yes. He's big on theme but he's also big on kurasawa and chris. Our really manages time of night and day and weather and Those sorts of background obvious elements to really heighten. The story and that was something that i really loved in felonious direction. Here is his mastery of that. Right like The most dramatic like the most dramatic lighting. That you could have set in reasonable times of day for you to have the conversations they wanna have right and and it just works really well but yeah i think also the the it it kind of tells the story about The area were asuka is is a little bit more lush than everywhere else like especially outside around the city and i think that speaks to sort of the life that she brings to things thematically There's just a lot of really cool stuff in there like that. That feels like it's intentional. Rather than just an accident like. I don't think there's any happy accidents. Insofar as the design of these i. I think i do wonder too. If it also shows how destructive the magistrates and the the people are being because there's overhead shot of the planet and it almost looks like It appears there that their fires burning that have destroyed this area because there's an area outside of the glowing ambrish region around it. That looks to be much more. Lush like you said Which is probably where you know. Soak it is and so it seems like maybe they're It's a subtle way of showing. How just how destructive these people have been. Yeah no. I think that's absolutely and it. It's now that i think about it. It's very princess modern. Okay which is. And now i feel like a fool for not actually tying all the princess modern okay stuff into my review is i'm talking about it but like The the woman. The magistrate is very much like the woman. In charge of iron town in that movie and a asuka was really based rooted in princess-mononoke. Okay and those ghibli films and princess and okay specifically is about that Interplay between industry and the natural world and asuka was supposed to be that The the lead character and prince modern okay was supposed to be the conduit between the two trying to understand it in the wolf children. That's all very felonious stuff. Yes okay Some mando arrives at the coordinates. We see. I didn't see this is the first time. But catcher pointed sets me. We actually see an owl in the trade. You think this is a sohka's all akon for Yeah so so that was something again that that I think i need to turn the brightness on my television because it just i meant almost like blend in with the tree after i saw it the second time like. It's almost like you see the out on it. Turns into the silhouette becomes like almost like a part of the trunk of the tree. And it's not as colorful as the always is in the in. The intimated series also might be the the darkness of the scene. So yeah so medo. Here's something in put. The child down as he investigates one of those creatures from before. But just as you know just an soak tax mendel fights back and mendizabal stop this attack by saying that bogotanos sent him but a soak is more interested in talking about that child. There it's now nighttime. In a circuit is sitting with the child in an almost meditative pose which we learn is. She's able to communicate with him through thought and here. We have one of our biggest reveals of the series of far so far. We finally learn baby. Yoda 's name. The child's name the bounties theme would everyone say In that is grow. So i wanted to hear brad. What is your first thoughts on the name groggy. I mean it's nice to have a name. You know the the going back and forth between baby. Yoda and the child is was getting a little tiresome. Especially considering how much you know He's being promoted and how often if they're right about him because of all the toys that are based on him so having name is nice that we can just refer to him as as grogan now on. Although i'm sure there are plenty of people who still refer to him as baby. Yoda as time goes on. Either you telling me that. When i buy t shirts for the mandalorian won't say the child on it will say that. Say the child every single t shirt that has like the childlike either. Says the bounty or the or worrying but like it can't just show the child. I don't know it's it's it's infuriating to me as a star wars fan like i. I'm personally like you know. My entire wardrobe is like starrewards shirts and it's like it seems like lucasfilm or disney or maybe maybe they found that the teachers don't sell as well if they don't put star wars on the net drives me crazy because if there's one thing i hate about t shirts that reference movies and tv shows it's when they have to slap the title on it like. I love the shirts. Where if you get it you get it like. I don't need you know. I assure that has Pleasure palace than have back to the future part two logo somewhere you know on the teacher to tell people you get it or you don't so That's that's really. I haven't seen any of those shirts. That actually say the child or the bounty on it. But i yeah i love him and i also love how he reacts. Every time he hears his name a few cute little cu that he does like. Yeah yeah no it was so good what do you think of the name brian I'm fine with the name like i was. I was really prepared for its to be anything in grow. Goose sounds as star wars use. Anything i was sort of expecting they might stick with the uae names. Because you've got iota and yadel and that's about it. But i'm really glad they didn't again. He's not the same as all the others. And so that that works and and like like brad said like it's just adorable every time the name gets said the puppet work in the sound design is so good around it that you forget that he's a puppet with you know matthew would behind him making sounds. I almost wonder like. I know before this series went to air Making star wars had a report That baloney and went to george lucas in were able this was before the first episode air That they went to george lucas and were able to get something that he's never wanted to provide. And that was a name for the species Now i'm wondering if if that is grow if we actually provided the name is is that his is actually his name. Could that be the name of the species i mean. We have plenty of other heritage referred to by their species. So it's certainly possible. But the fact that asuka was commute communing with him that i'm sure that she actually got his real name. Yeah and i do want to oregon say oh i was gonna say like it does also feel a little bit like grow- grew if you rearrange it in just the right way and squint. It's kind of like a you know. Maybe that's a reference to george especially in the way he used to move names around to reference people that he really liked or respected in training in star wars about that I should mention even though that this has nothing to do with. But gregory was actually a alcoholic beverage. Cape for dean. It's it's made attache. Demands is jit so the sales of that that alcoholic beverage probably gonna skyrocket. This name has been revealed. So that's that that is actually y. You're going to keep seeing the child on everything because they will have failed to capture the the licensing or the trademark on that word which is why all the sabakh dex they've sold are also sold under han solo card game or smuggling card game hate that. Yeah me too okay. I guess one last question about the name is now that we have a name. Do you think fans are gonna call. Start calling him grow or do you think we're still gonna see everybody call. Baby yoda or i mean. I guess i asked that because how many fans actually call mando din like gin. I i feel like i i i don't call. I just call sometimes. I always name. If i'm trying to vary up saying mando or mandalorian too much can get a little bit frustrating. But yeah i mean sort of probably be the same thing. I mean baby. Yoda will for our purposes will still be the best. Seo option as opposed to grow grow so yeah actually maybe grew who is more of a good seo option. Because like you know baby. Yoda is more Non rated now too much video. I okay. Anyways so we learned that grogan was trained at the jedi temple. Do we know what jedi temple. She's talking about here. Brian yes so this is she says the temple on khorasani the one that we've seen throughout the prequels and that and can skywalker marched on the on on the night of order sixty six. Yeah we learned that someone took him from the tempo and he was hidden and that then his memory became becomes murky. So i guess the question is who do. We think took him and hit him in this. I could possibly be. I think i think that's one of the biggest mysteries is. There's not a whole lot of djeddai that are off the map and that as we're learning more and more about djeddai that were hunted afterward. We're seeing them especially in the comics. Get more and more scarce as vader actually hunts them down Or they actually turn and try to hunt vader down like in the case of jakarta knew who actually did try to preserve as much of that jet legacy as she could and and created a small library on another planet that luke skywalker actually ends up stumbling upon Later after the battle of dorin probably the battle of jack who well So there's any number of jet. I that haven't had cannon deaths whether that's shock tea or or even giacosa new could have been responsible for that but there's there's plenty of candidates that might have been able to do it on the other hand it could be. You know a random djeddai that that worked in the nursery who'd pulled nursery duty. That was like well. If i've got to save one of these kids got to be this one ran But the other interesting thing and maybe this is getting too far into the weeds. Those generally nurseries where there were babies were typically off planet. That was one of the things. Cad bane was hunting for pal. Patine these kids He wanted to use them to turn into what became his inquisitorial and they weren't actually held on khorasani and i think the fact that he's been trained by a number of jet masters on correspond at the temple implies that it would be someone who had him in a one on one situation not necessarily as on because he'd needs to be Not older specifically but older in his maturity and his and whatnot but that this species might be a special case. I'm sorry i'm rambling. I get really excited about to say that. I don't trust you hostile new because she was very indignant about. They're not being a planet in the library and she's like oh well if it's not here it doesn't exist and it's like you just didn't do your job right. Yeah no she's i would. I would say that yes. She's terrible in the movie but read the comics. She's really cool in the The darth vader comics a the most recent innovation or no charles soul ones She's in i believe and they're just they're fantastic enough okay so a soco says that she's only known one other being like this and that is You know jedi master. Yoda I guess ed brings the question to me brian. Like did she not know of yandle so for one i. Yell was off the council and had gone on her own mission before the time of attack of the clones and attack of the clones happens before the clone wars and asuka isn't even a patio on until into the clone wars so yadda would have been off of course on away doing everything or whatever she was doing while asuka was still a young ling. And there's no. I mean there's there's tens of thousands of jeddah roaming the galaxy why she no yandle Who wasn't on the council at the time that she had gone through her. Her rankings It it makes sense to me that she wouldn't i thought about that too And i think that there's two reasons for it. There's that reason which is the in universe reason other reason where you didn't want a soka having to explain both of them in this scene like it's easier for just known iota other than going like oh wait. There was that other one yadda she was weird. Like you know what that or lancing. Oh yeah and also paves the way for us to potentially get a special edition of the prequels in which we have scenes in. Like attack of loans be Seen during the genus battle where we see attal skit shot by a battle. Droid or revenge. The we'll see a scene where like they put. They put you in the background of the scene. Anikin walks in and kills those young links but like someone reaches in quickly and describes in slowly walks away to mention. We were just having this conversation less than a minute ago. One of my friends texted me and said total bullshit that a circuit doesn't know who yadda lists funny that that just came up right now. Okay i do think this is a missed opportunity for her to say that. This looks like a baby. Yoda but whatever moving on. I'm not gonna she got as close to it as you needed to yeah Men admits that seen him use the force before she says that the jedi order. fell a long time ago in mendome insists that he needs her help She relents in will test him in the morning In the morning we see a so they use the force levitated rock to grow and almost like a dog asked him to return. Stone tour Instead of levitating it he drops to the ground Asuka senses that. There's fear much fear in grow gu He's hidden his abilities to survive all these years. But since is a connection with gorgon's mando and asked him to get him to do. It tries the same thing but with the joystick knob. That that corbu like you know his own fascinated with and not only does grew. Take it but it's like you know it's quickly comes down like not slowly like you know almost like a new like a bullet being fired or something I will say this i. I like how the show keeps on taking things that are. We thought were just like a thing in the first season in. It's like well. We're going to do more stuff with like the joystick knob. I thought was never gonna come back in any meaningful way in the series. But it's it's funny. How like you know. There's these cute moments a become setups for something later Dak so yeah. That's just good dishes. Good storytelling like not a wasted moment. If you can help it yeah Soka says he's grown grown a large attachment to him which is why she can't train him. She's seen what attachment can do and obviously she's talking about what happened with the anikin right. Yeah no she's absolutely talking about that. And i'll pawn. Rewatch is seeing sort of the pain in her forties. Voice in her is about that is heartbreaking especially considering the last thing that that we saw her do on the time line. Because i still think and we can talk about how i feel like. This would be placed on the timeline. The last thing we saw her do was fight. Vader and then get plucked out of there and then stranded on malik over again and so she's still very much nursing that hurt of realization that her master became darth vader for sure it also occurs me for the first time ever i. That's that grow goo in kenner. Probably were probably born around the same time. Yeah no this was something that like. Although the timeline is nebulous a little bit. And i don't think that will actually get a solid definitive answer in the canon until there's a reason for it because father has said you know five years after return of the jedi. He said three years after And i think it's just gonna be in that that range that three to five or even as many as seven years until the actual reason to pin down where exactly it happens on the timeline. But yeah if it's that five years after And we can take verner herzog at his word. Which i don't know why would trust that guy Then we would advocate. And yeah i know that anikin and and grow would have been aborted about the same time which would also imply that. He was born inside the republic. because you know quite on says mannequin. That had he been morning the republic we'd have identified him early and brought him in interesting So a so advises that he let gregor's abilities fade Menderes not interested in that admits that he was hired by the magistrate. To kill a guy he makes a deal with the soka to take the magistrate out if she'll help him So many mentions that. The magistrate has some each k seven assassin rates. And yeah we know about from cannon right or no from legends from legends. yeah The h k Assassin -joyed series h k. Stands for hunter killer and they appeared most prominently in the knights of the old republic video game h k forty. Seven is a droid that darth revenue built in the wake of the mandalorian wars. So they also have this sort of interesting tied to mand for but they haven't really up. They've they've been mentioned briefly in a couple of like video games sort of to to bring them into the canon or in a book here there. apparently grass the hut who luke skywalker encountered in the I think the jason errands marvel comic star. wars title owned a couple of series gladiator droids But we haven't really seen them on screen ever In the canon and this is sort of their debut it seems like the season. We're getting lots of nights over public references. Do you think vava's a big fan like flooding. Hasn't really use a lot of that stuff in rebels or anything right. My guest is father row probably played it over the weekend between season. One and season two. You might be right okay. So it's okay explains that the magistrate is actually someone named morgan elspeth and during the cold. War's her people were killed. She survived in anger. Fueled an industry. Which helped build the imperial starfleet she planned wondered plundered plundered worlds destroyed them in the process Do we know anything more about this character from the books animated series or video games. Or is this a new low. This is this is a new character and this ammo especially to plunder worlds to Feed the empire order to create star stories is something that we've seen in other places John jackson miller book that that introduced canaan inhere before rebels came out took place on a planet called gorse where they were doing the very same thing there where it was just like. We're plundering this world because we need x. mineral for the star destroyers and So that's that's a pretty common theme that we've been seeing in this new era of star wars The new era as they're trying to actually make sense of how much plunder the empire would require to build fleets and armies and navies and even the death star is largest that they they were able to. And i think this is just a a natural storytelling result of that and that would make sense to because i know john jackson miller conferred with baloney about the creation of that book. So it must be on flow. Mind somewhere yeah So soak wants to free. The prisoners mando says a mandalorian in jeddah. They'll never see us coming. Cut to the next scene. Where the asuka coming and they sound the alarm takes up the guards at the gates slaves street through the huge metal. Gong says anything that rolling with her sabre which is just a bad ass moment. the magistrate comes out in her soldiers flanking her she tells them to stand down I'm sure there's many cinematic references here right like this is kind of like the big western corral moments. It is i kind of especially with michael biehn involved. Got tombstone vibes from it but also the with the way. She's walking toward the camera. And the way she has the light sabers and the way the sort of the smoke rolls across the street and the wind picks up her cloak exactly like as she walks forward really did remind me of occur. Was your jimbo. the fight between the ronin and the other hired gun from one of the families. He's you know the the samurai with the pistol and the way the robes move in the way the wind picks up the dust kicks across the screen. It really did feel like you're jimbo for me with with a soka and the mandalorian both at alternate times sort of taking the Meath a role. So soka throws that mendez signet down indicating she's killed him. The magistrate orders regards killed the they fire at a as she balks. Fire with their. Saber runs across the rooftops The magistrate orders execution of the prisoners. Right as mando makes his entrance soak it takes out more guards as laying weeds. A few in hunt for the djeddai and There's cool shot of soka like whiting upper sabres behind the two guards and then cut to a wide shot and we hear screams and Around the time. We see what what i thought was a loft cat. But you're telling me it is not no so to cousin. Loft cats are very similar to cause first appeared in the clone wars and this was again day. Felonious trying to get a cats into star wars and so the two could cats first appeared and then loath cats sort of took over but those were native to low thawal and Toucas are sort of more widespread around the galaxy. And you can tell them. They've got bushier tails and more round heads at the look at screenshot of that Okay so wing comes face a faces okay. If it wasn't for his droid warriors you'd be dead. Meanwhile confronts the magistrate in the water garden area. she drops her robes Nights her savors. The magistrate comes with the best car sphere. And there's this bad as battle stance. I'd bread what did you think of this whole fight sequence for the most part. It's it's a good action sequence sits. I like how you know. There's this sort of is the the guards in the assassin droids moving through these very narrow streets alleyways giving you know soka the perfect opportunity to sneak around in pop up in slice through them and whatnot. But like i said before the i there were a couple moments where it felt like the swiftness of a soaker from the animated series What didn't translate action. Maybe partially because it's it's it's hard to do that. Like i mentioned the thing where she takes a hop. The wall does kind of flip to you know. Slice one of the The android or maybe. It's just one of the guards and then there's another one where there's a weird leap off a rooftop apple to avoid laser blasts. That felt kind. Just kind of clunky but for the most part you know it's like we talked about before this is definitely an improvement for day. Felonious for us. How shoots things and And then i liked the The way mando comes into it too in his his place in it at all is much more simple on the stuff we've seen him do before But obviously more on that as we get into the the the final battle as. What do you think of the asuka saber battle with Magistrate with her best spear and obviously can't cut through it as we've mentioned before and it also seems to me. I know this. Magistrate is kind of this bad ass person. Who's you know. Survived all these years in his like. But she's she's holding her own with a season djeddai. Is that believable. I mean it's i. I think so. I mean there's You look at someone like you know manda who is able to also hold his own against a tube and part of that is because of the armor that he has but also because of his combat skills and so if somebody like this who is clearly in the same vein of a samurai of well-trained warrior. Who has you know who's entire life is invested in survival in that way would have some skills to be able to stay alive You know in a fight. Like this and one thing i love about. This fight actually is a lot of lightsaber fights when we we've seen them between jeddah at least as far as recently rebels battles concern since they didn't have the same technological capabilities to have fast paced. Lightsaber fights in some of the early star. Wars movies is that This isn't like a you know a balls to the wall like fast pace. You know constantly hitting battle. There's a there's a very calculated approach that each of them have in this like they know each other skills and their. It's almost as like a a lightsaber battle. Meets a chess match where there's a lot of staring waiting for someone to make the right move knowing what that move might be You know it's it's it's still fast paced but it's not rapid like consistent hitting of the blade against the the spear and so. It's done very much in this vein of plenty of a samurai sword fights. We've we've seen before. This is definitely like consistent with with baloney to in the episode twin sons of rebels where we saw spoiler alert the end of mall He really designed that fight. Fight sequence around that same idea. Where mall and obi wan or sizing each other up and Mall comes in really. Hasn't learned anything. And obi wan is truly become the master and and in that he was very clearly referencing. Seven samurai with cues though. The master swordsman in his initial fight with the with the guy that that combine shimada tarshish. Moore's character sees and watches gosh just a waste. Like that guy's obviously better like this is this is the worst and This is very much that same thing where a soak is sort of making those masterful as few moves as she can until she realizes the fight is going to be a little bit more intense than that weighing asked mando. Who's gonna win. I kind of love the small. Talk that laying is having with minto during this whole sequence. It's like it's almost like he knows he's lost but he's like trying to by the time so that he could You know make his move which he tries to do in mando blasts them and takes them out. So that's the end of michael beans character in star wars I was a little disappointed in not michael biehn but like i i kind of like the idea of this character being self aware enough to know that what he's doing is necessarily worth risking his life for He's kind of just doing it to get by You know because he mentioned the. This is not one of those instances where we're ready to lay down our life for this And so i i would. I would be interested to see you know more of a hair popping up if there's a series or something that takes place before this to me yet know spent some more time with a character. I would also not be surprised if he's not dead. I mean like i. If darth maul could come back from getting cut in half in palestine comeback from getting thrown down a reactor shou- shafting blown up like this guy. Lang got shot in the somewhere like it was so fast like maybe his armor caught it and it just knocked him down and he crawls away off camera like that's totally believable. I mean of general grievous can still have his body parts inside a odroid body. You know what better person to come back as you know a killer robot. Yeah no that would be. That would be cool. No i think. I like the thing is i. Don't think either of a really joking here. I think it's totally possible. Michael beans just cool. And i really loved all the so much of a soka hunting him through those hallways felt like you know dave felony just going like i'm gonna make hicks fight an alien totally. Okay so the magistrate knocks one of focus light savers in the water Knocked spear out of her hand and has her checkmate and the man earlier helps. Mando take out a guard on the roof. By the way who is this man later we see him being like is he like he's being empower out. I was very confused. I've only seen this once. My assumption based on the storytelling was that he was the original magistrate and they were restoring him to power and that was why he was sort of taking care of those kids at the beginning where he was like. Hey don't talk to us. Like all of this is trouble. And he was trying to like protect everybody around his best he could while she was in charge and so when she's gone they sort of give him back his vestments at least that's the storytelling that implied to me. But i'll read it way too much into everything clearly. Hey or like an hour and a half into this fight course. of course we're gonna read too much into a soka asked the magistrate. Where is her master. And we finally get the big reveal of the episode or one of the bigger gills up. So i guess grow who is. Maybe the biggest reveal She's looking for grand. Admiral thron Brian why why would soka want to find. Thron on actually we. We should assume that people listening to this might not even know who thrown us. So i think thrown is one of those characters that sort of transcended just the hard core star wars fandom because when star wars was dead during what i think a lot of us call the dark times like after returning the jet i came out. There was like nothing coming out unless you were hard. Core and it was like the role. Playing game was the biggest thing but in nineteen ninety-one Delray star wars came out with a series of books that were billed as the sequel to star wars and they sold more copies than probably any star. Wars books I mean definitely ever had to date. But also i'm sure those books still so well and put them in the ranks of some of the highest selling star wars books ever made and they debuted on the new york times bestseller list. But those were timothy. John's heir to the empire books which introduced thron villain Four the heroes of the of the republicans they were trying to build the new republic thron was off the map somewhere in the unknown regions and he returns with the fleet with his imperials as well as an a crazed cloned jetta and he returns to try to take back the the the galaxy for the empire and he made it like all of that was de canonized anais when disney made the switch from legends but day phony worked in back in and thrown was a principal villain in star wars rebels and season three and season four and season three and season four. He fought specifically against the rebels That that we knew and loved there and including so as refrigerator and as refrigerator was A young jet. I in training that asuka had some dealings with and mentor to little bit as well as his master. Cain jairus and ezra was the person who was able to take thrown off the map for the empire because thrown was a brilliant strategist and thrown. was taken to the unknown regions by ezra and that became the quest that socha and sabine sort of went on after the war was to find azra who was last seen with throng I don't know if that's too long explanation. But hopefully i think that's fair like a we. We don't like at the end of rebels we don't know of thron was killed or ezra was killed. We just know that both of them missing right. So i guess my big this thing to me seemed not like a set of for future mandalorian stare storyline. This all seems to me like a up for spin off. Series starring asuka emeron. I definitely got that impression. I mean it's hard to watch every episode where it has this movie of the week. Feel where you're seeing a different cast of characters that could all have and support shows of their own because they have implied so much story so strongly especially after that earnings call with bob. Eiger saying like yeah. We're looking at expanding. The world of the mandalorian seeing what other shows could spin out of that and then looking every episode going like oh that could be a show that could be show. That could be a show like this feels like it more than most like boca thanh felt like it could be a show but this feels like it feels like they can't actually own. Oh you earlier. Made a comment that you think that moth gideon is not the end game here that like you think. He's reporting to brand admiral thrown. That could be the big bad of the series of that. I think it'd be. I think that could be. I think that absolutely could be. I could be wrong. But i mean as as we prove every week i can't be a lot but and i say that jokingly i mean like i could be wrong about about any of this stuff but i do think that mafia gideon seems to be fighting for something that he might be getting more orders from and if thrown is still sort of off. The map This could be building toward that heir to the empire style situation. But there's other information that we get later in the episode that we haven't gotten to that implies that this could be building up to something that could give us the canon version of heir to the empire. What do you think. I don't even know can't even connect the dots here so so Asuka sends jaren off to to the planet typhon. Yeah right entitled. Is the site of jedi temple that that is long thought to be one of the first jedi temples and she says put him put him up on the pedestal there at the peak of the mountain at the temple and he'll reach out and another jet. I might come looking for him quickly. Went off to the place for luke skywalker went to after that. That is definitely. This was one of the first and this was for a long time. Thought to be the first but ach to is absolutely as far as we know the first djeddai temple but this was definitely one of the first and one of the oldest and it's Wait a second okay. Go go ahead go ahead. Well i was going to say who is it in this period of time line. That's hunting around for all kinds of shit Lor santana no Luke skywalker yeah. Yeah so so luke skywalker going around intersecting with these characters doesn't seem so ridiculous especially at the point where like if soka tano in boca raton granddad will thrown or not off the table. Why would luke skywalker be. I mean you're right like okay. She she tells him to put him on a wears it See stone or something like that a seer. Stone like the. Yeah it's like just a in rebels you'll see a lot of these on the various temples that they visit but these are ways for them to communicate with other djeddai And this was how iota communicated with This was how iota communicated with. Ezra during that time And it's also how i know. It's the lego star wars holiday special. But it's also ray communicated with the ghost of iota in that show and so if if you know maybe maybe five no but it's candidate jason. The idea is still that that. Yoda's yoda's ghost can appear in those in those places to people that might be. Maybe didn't necessarily know him Is sort of like implied throughout the canon. So i mean maybe maybe he does get to see iota. Maybe he gets to see. Obi wan may you know we've got those. We've got those reports. That obi wan was on set for the mandalorian. Just to test out his costume. Yeah but maybe maybe. Maybe he's there on typhon who knows like as a ghost. I think the point is is that they've opened it up for anything to be possible. And one of those possibilities is thronged coming back and making life hell for the new republic another possibility is that luke skywalker or any of the ghosts of the past can come talk to grow or try to see if he would be willing to live that life of djeddai or he also gets a choice so i i don't know there's a lot of tantalizing possibilities about all of that That we just don't enough. We don't have enough information about what direction they're going head to know for sure we i want to talk about some specific context here because She says that if he while he's on this. I if i'm seeing stone if he reaches out through the force there's a chance a jet i will feel it and will come but she admits there not many left. That makes me think that it's not going to be a force gauche at i. This would have to be a jet. I that is still alive during this time period which is which is what i think leads me to luke. Yeah i. he's actively searching for that stuff. Yeah the only in. He's he's looking for the first temple. It's a chance that that could be the moment where he shows up. There is the moment where he's like on that pilgrimage to find that janae temple the only other. I think i think that's later. That's much later in the timeline where he's looking for the first jet. I temple to look for answers about ben after the destruction of his temple. That happens much later. Okay yes but this is still when he's seeking out artifacts of the jet. I in any knowledge that he can. And and that's where we see that in battlefront two after between return of the jedi in the battle of jackou When they're they're sort of when inferno squadron is burning those Places full of artifacts that palpitation had secured in luke shows up. And that's where he finds that compass right that's where he finds that compass and Further than that you know we see in in that comics. That giacosa new is in and she created that cash of djeddai knowledge and books and hala crohn's and whatnot. Luke stumbles upon that long after her. Death is well you know. Sort of leaving that Legacy for him so that we know in the canon from a whole bunch of other places he is seeking these things out to learn more about the And and kinda going on this walkabout bread. Let's rewind things for a second. Do you think that this whole asuka thron thing is a setup for its own series or. Do you think it's going to be part of the mandalorian. And who do you think should play thrown a live action. Wow that's a good question. That wasn't anticipated. I do think that this this does seem to be setting up for a spinoff for a soak just because this episode had had a fairly permanent finally to it and it would seem almost contrived a soco were to run into mandalorian again. Considering where his trajectory is headed and how resistant she was to wanting anything to do with training grow goo whatsoever and so i feel like her path definitely lies separate from mando's though it could obviously you know intersect again. Be when if their interests happened to align depending on whether thrown is the one guiding a mosque gideon or anything like that As for who should play thron. That is a very good question. I i mean If we if we hadn't already had mads mikkelsen in the star wars universe. That would have been my choice. Well can i. Can i offer his brother. Lars who provides the voice on star wars rebels. Is it really mad. Nicholson's brother yes. Oh wow that's awesome. Well then fuck you get him. Yeah that's that was that was my sulaimaniyah. That's awesome No i think that might be perfect casting right. They're making just bring him over like they did katie sack off. Yeah i'm all for that Okay i guess The question here is where is sabine at this time like. Where does this take place in. The time line is before Asuka goes and meets up with sabine to go on this journey to find. Ezra and i mean that's what i think and i'll tell you why i think that there's a few reasons one Just from a purely physical standpoint. Asakusa montreal's her head. Tails are lot shorter here than we see them win. Sabine when she meets to being on lasalle after the war in the epilogue the other thing is is that when a soak it does that she shrouded in white full oni. Is if if nothing else one of the biggest lord of the rings nerds ever and the colors that she wears are symbolic of things. And he's he's talked a lot about the inspiration of gandalf and gandalf the grey versus gandalf the white and how her lightsabres as she left the jet order. There's a really interesting story about how she got the white light sabers. And why they're white and it it. Sort of fits the medically into all of that as well. And when she shows up in the epilogue she is shrouded in white as though she sort of transcended. You know other iterations of herself in here. I think it's very purposeful. That felonious shrouds during gray And i think it has that gandalf. The grey gandalf the white implication. But i also wonder. I went back and rewatch the epilogue and included the video of it in my review on slash film. That when you go back and look at it they talk specifically about going back. And finding ezra and i get the impression that what this is is her trying to track down that information. I and she's probably working with boca thanh because this doesn't seem as though she's just been hanging out in this forest planet you know for a long time like they're actively working towards something bigger and if boca raton is working with mafia giddy air working toward taking the dark saber. Back from a muff. Gideon and asuka is going to You know russell. Up the information about the whereabouts of grand admiral thrown. That's part of what makes me connect those two in my head. Because why else would she be checking in with boca thanh about that. But my feeling is that what happens is that throng is going to lead her to ezra or give her an idea whereas we're is and that's when she goes and picks up sabine and they go off on their on their journey. So i think this is before that epilogue okay interesting Okay so a soak. It gives the best car sphere to mando as payment saying. This belongs with his kind It seems pretty obvious to me. That mando doesn't need any more new weapons. And i i think this is gonna eventually be melted down into armor for growth grow. Oh yeah this is totally like best car for grow. Yeah Okay so she asks for is and he says he's back at ship and we'll go get him Who else your thought that. This was going to be the moment where meno is gonna arrive back at the razor crafts and we were gonna find out that you've been captured by moth gideon. I didn't like i was i was i checked my watch and realize we were too close to the episode for that. So what did you think brad anticipating that. I didn't mean that. Because i was more so thinking about whether or not this was really going to be the moment that manda was going to say goodbye to the trial which made me kind of sad And so i was. I was just happy to see that that how it played out instead minot returns to the ship wakes up groggy and says it's time to say goodbye. There's some beautiful flute music here. you know. I've said the score. This season was not as bold as the first season. It felt like it felt like we'd big Kind of found his footing. I wanna say is not taking chances but it didn't. It felt like a like a singular thing where the first season felt like it was trying to do a bunch of different things In this episode in particular. I think it's His score work is phenomenal and had some moments. That are very different. Yeah i mean. I think that he's definitely found his grew for what the score is meant to be. But i think he's still playing around with those sounds that he brought to mandalorian in a very interesting way in particular. I think that the The track he composed for that assault on the imperial cargo shift. In the heiress episode was particularly cool. Had a lot of awesome orchestrations along with the industrial. Sounds that he's been using in this episode and here there was that nice touch of yoda's theme when asuka brought him up and then like you just said they they did like what is what's sounds like a a recorder version of the mandalorian theme as he returns Back to his ship. I really loved what he did. What what he. He did with bringing in a circus theme two or notes of that with with similar instruments. But this sort of this victory celebration. It reminded me a lot of of him. Interpreting a mix between the e walk celebration and the replacement for the walks celebration in return of the jedi In a really interesting way so like evoked it but it was it it was evocative of it but it didn't feel like it was copying it but it felt very much right in line with what he's been doing on this show and it's just Yeah i think he's been spreading his wings on it and of of all of the pieces. I think this episode has had some of the best music. Yeah agreed okay so grow goo is whining here. And that's according to the subtitles said actually wining Soka says medo is like a father to grow. Khushi can't train him. He insists that she made a promise in. He is holding your to it and this is when she tells him. But the planet tapan Teflon which has the ancient temple. We've talked about that This is that In any of the new. I know this was featured in legends i. It appeared in the two thousand seven novel. Darth bane To it was also in star. Wars sold republican. Is this the first time. It appears is in it tight. Thon actually appeared in the marvel comics. Vader in and dr afrah went there. Oh yeah she brings him there till a distract him or something and this is it's an ice planet also so that could have some clues to to where we're heading and maybe maybe the second episode isn't the only ice planet we're going to see this season okay so okay so We talked a lot about already. This the we do we all think it's going to be luke who shows himself your bread. You didn't pick up. I liked the idea. Even though i have been resistant to the series tying more into existing star wars lore and familiar things only because the threads have been laid so well for that to to make sense that It almost be disappointing if we didn't at least bump into him for a bit and i am considering how well they've done with Bogotanos asuka being in the season but not becoming primary focuses of the show still letting us follow mando story and having them. Just make these appearances. I i'm liking that the mandalorian isn't becoming overwhelmed or taken over by these characters but merely laying the seeds to have it blossom into something more that is not. Just you know a an isolated story about this. Bounty hunter does does have some kind of tie to larger events. Whether you know it is something star wars movies or creating something that can be as big as the star wars movies within a series of television shows and see for me. This is typical day phony where it's like something that i don't think i want. And he convinces me. That i need it. Yeah exactly. I mean that's how i'll be honest like it's i think that's something he learned from george though too because it was felonious. Who is doing that. Same thing on clone wars when georgia's like hey we're bringing it back. Darth maul and phony one going like no. That's that's a terrible idea. And then having to take that bold move and risk and make it as cool as it turned out to be And and honestly like malls one of the most interesting characters. All of star wars now because of that exploration. So i'm i'm on board for whatever they want to try to bring me i. I do want to acknowledge that there is some other possibilities here like it could be Cal from Fallen order he's alive. During this time period. I think right you know he could be. I mean the last thing we saw cal kostas was before alder on in the fallen order game so we don't know if he made it through. The rebellion at all is kick vista. Get killed. yeah he. He palpitation murdered him in revenge right. That's right yes right. He's part of that. Come into the plo. Koon agent colour and sixteen. Yeah i know we saw mace windu obviously meet his fate in revenge of the south by the there have been some rumors that there could be mace windu series. I know samuel jackson even appeared at celebration on video. Like basically insinuating that mace windu is not dead. Not that he has a you know the authority on that No thank you but I i bring this up because there is the these rumors that there's possibly a mace windu series which i don't think i'm from credible people so you know that said Mace windu did he killed jingo fat. So maybe that would give boba fett something to do if he wants to. Revenge for the person who killed his father. It's it's a possibility. I think if mace windu going to get a show like it's not like samuel jackson when you shave him actually ages so it could be set before the clone wars during the clone wars or whatever. But i'm the more we get into this though the more. I'm actually thinking that boba fett is coming back this i brian. This is one of the times. I think you're going to be wrong. Okay i'll bet money that we'll see fat By the end of the but you see like the further we get away from it. The less likely like how does he even fit like at this point with everything. They're setting up. I have a question. Yes do we think with all this like expanded university abilene that we're starting to do even more now that there's a chance that kyle qatar could be coming with the dark troopers darkness not only the triggers but considering the fact that the I think it's interesting. That the empire is doing these experiments with mclaren's and trying to give seemingly their troops many koreans and potentially making them four sensitive and tarnish character who is a force sensitive human. Who doesn't start at the jet. He defected stormtrooper. It'd be kind of interesting if they were able to introduce them as this character. Who has experimented on escaped from the empire and can grow into this interesting character and perhaps make good on the teases that we were given a fin potentially being djeddai at but actually follow through on it with a character similar to him. It's interesting kyle. Qatar in is one of those characters that that when rogue one was coming out there a lot of disappointment that it didn't seem as though he was involved because in the legends cannon. He was the one who stole the death star plans in those in those video games and he did become a jet. I and serve luke's jedi counsel and you know we'll the lightsaber and all that sorta stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if kyle qatar showed up but he was also like. Yeah like dark troopers were some of his biggest villains as he worked to to deal with all of that stuff Like nothing surprises me anymore. So i wouldn't be. I wouldn't be surprised. Okay so She says may the force be with you. They depart the score. Here's like more traditional star wars Soka smiles as we've that is the end of this episode of is there. Do you guys have any final thoughts before we get into some speculation. I think this was this was another. Yeah i think we covered everything. It was another solid entry. It referenced a lot of really cool things both in the star wars laura in cinema and I can't wait to see where we go next. What do we think is happening in the next episode. We're going to get a pit stop or are we going straight to the temple. Well here's a question what we have. Three episodes left the season the next episode. We don't know who directed at we do know that. A rick phoenix whom yama jawa family. You're you're always messing up. His last night rick correctly or close You'll find yeah. He did chapter fifteen so he did the second episode coming up. And then. I had heard that robert rodriguez directed the finale. But i'm not sure if that's true. I think that was confirmed. Because he didn't he post a photo from the same thing. He confirmed that. He's directing an episode. So it's either the next one or the finale. So who is the director here to know and is only did. He say he was only doing one episode. This season. her could he do another one he could. Anybody could but i think the only reason that they'd be keeping it secret is because it is. I mean it could be. Maybe it's ryan johnson and they just didn't want the press Okay so your question brad was. Are we going to see the temple in the next episode. I feel like that's too soon. Right i feel like it always mendoza sidetracked into some kind of mission that he needs to accomplish something to get him to the next thing or attacked by somebody. Yeah brian what do you think. I think it's possible. But i think that the bigger issue that's gone completely unaddressed. This episode was the tracker that moth gideon put on him. And that's gonna lead moth giddy and right asuka and if if he so chooses to go to corpus and if he doesn't if maybe off gideon's just sort of behind his footsteps in dogging them then maybe he goes to corpus and maybe there's some story there or maybe yeah they go straight to tighten and then that's where a confrontation happens. But i feel like gideon's like that's a slow burning fuse and i somehow don't think moth gideon's going to play that ship until more of the threads of the story have been put together and so my feeling is that we probably would get to tight on. He would call the djeddai. And whoever that is is going to factor into the finale. Just as i think boca tawil as a soak across as you know. You're saying maybe both that will like i really think that the finale is going to be a crescendo of all of the disparate threads. This this season has has set up. So i feel like they'd probably just be adding more threads as we head toward there. It is interesting as brad pointed out last week that we haven't seen there's no footage left that we have not seen. There's actually no news reports of you know they'll have this morning age. There's one image. What is one of the first image. I it was the it was the mando sort of at and i thought it was going to be this episode when i saw it to be honest. But it's the mando with a sort of like a local steed carrying the the gordon who's Who's bassinet behind him and it's sort of in a mountainous region and they're heading up to this place. That looks a little bit like you know. You might expect a jedi temple to look and it's it's just one single frame and I was half expecting it to to to pop up in this episode. But when it didn't i'd forgotten about it completely until you all just said that one of the trailers or is it just a still image. It's just it's just a still image Interesting we'll side from that still image. We know nothing of casting. I think all the big reveals that were reported like the book taunts or the. You know rosario dawson as soka like that stuff has come to pass. So i feel like the next three episodes. I really am in the dark of where this is headed do. Do you think we're gonna see any more of a soka this season. I mean like. I said i would not be surprised if we saw her. Still working with boca thanh although but then we don't have sasha banks but i guess she's not part of the night owls anyways irv no. She is a night owl. She is the of a acts wolves wolves or something whatever his name is but but like i said the if she's got her helmet on If she's got her helmet on they can have any old stunt person do that Okay guys i. I think we've probably gone long enough. We've actually this recorded. Episode think is almost the length of three times the actual episode. So i blame myself. Do you do either of you. Guys have any land speculation the upcoming three episodes of the season. I'm just excited to see what i get wrong. No honestly i really like being surprised. Yeah i'm excited to see what you get wrong to brian. Yeah but i'm when. I say i mean in a like a like a nice way tag mystic way totally. Yeah i know. I know okay. We'll put a link to brian's review that appeared on slashing dot com today in the show also put a wing to what you mentioned earlier brett. Second yeah yeah. Did she say anything. Like super like was there any big reveals of no she. She was tap dancing. The more the most interesting thing. I think to me was that i tried to get her to talk about holding the dark sabre without confirming that. It's her as boca thanh holding lightsaber. I asked her if she'd had held it as an actress and her response was. I honestly. don't remember which sounds like a lie to me. Because i feel like if you gonna hold the dark sabre. You're not gonna forget. Yeah she has a photo of photo on our phone somewhere. I'm assuming yeah so it's But yeah it's it's interesting interview. I was really interested in her her Discussion about How challenging she found it to bring Into live action. Just how much. More of a challenge it was than she had Had anticipated okay. Well we'll put links to both those stories. You can find more alva work. It's awesome dot com. You can find this podcast slash on daily published every weekday at three times a week now on apple. google overcast. Spotify all the popular podcasts apps. Please send us your feedback questions. 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With surge of delta variant, will downtowns become ghost towns again?

Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal

27:41 min | Last month

With surge of delta variant, will downtowns become ghost towns again?

"Everybody that's why. I know this last year and change has had a whole lot of unknown but one thing is for certain that your kids have questions about money. That honestly can be a little hard to answer lucky for you. We've got something just for that million brazilian the podcast for marketplace. That answers the questions. Your kids have about money. The easy ones the fun. Ones the head scratchers degree. Listen for the whole family and a whole new season is out now. Million brazilian helping dollars make more sense. Check it out. We will have the friday wrap of the economic week that was of course and then the end of the show. We'll take a trip to cape cod from american public media. This is marketplace in los angeles. I'm kai rozelle friday today. The thirtieth day of july good is always to have you along everybody. It has been a week in this economy. In case you hadn't noticed the fed met gross domestic product. Came out so much to talk about so little time. So let's go neil. Richardson is is at. Adp bryan young is at yahoo finance. Hey you to hike. So neil let me start with you and we're going to spend a little bit of time with chair powell and the federal reserve this afternoon. The first thing. I want to talk about is Pal saying in literally these words. We're not gonna raise rate while he didn't say we're not gonna raise rates. He said we will continue to be accommodated with our policy until we see substantial further progress. Those are his words toward their goals. Goals how much longer do you believe that is going to take. And we're talking lower unemployment and and you know inflation under control. Thick great thing about defining substantial further progresses. That it's a moving definition and that's exactly how the fed likes. It's not just powell. It's just how fed chairs talk is to give themselves maximum wiggle room to define what progresses as we continue down this path. I think they've met their inflation objective or well over the two percent target and so they have to use another word transitory to explain where we are in terms of progress but in terms of employment. I'm struck by what the fed said that we still have some ways to go some ground to cover. I believe it was the exact phrasing and we do About seven million people are still sidelined by the pandemic and those are the people who tend to be overly concentrated and low pay service sector jobs so the economy still has quite a bit of work to do to produce the further progress needed for the fed second mandate which is full employment. Bruno thought it was interesting. Mula gave this a nod was actually asked what he means. That i think is the first time he's been asked what he means by the word transitory and he said not that it's going to go away and everything's going to be back to normally said you know it's just inflation's gonna pause kind of where it is and it's not going to get worse and i thought that was worthy of note. Yeah and i was in that press conference. It's really interesting to see the fed chairman kind of jumble up his words when he was describing that. Because let's be honest here right for the millions and the majority of americans that don't spend their time trying to figure out the differences between inflation and price levels. It is complicated topic to address because inflation measures year over year changes there. Are these things like base effects when you're trying to measure current months against the depths of the pandemic a year ago where prices actually decline. So what he was trying to message to people was that when the fed says they feel inflation is going to be transitory. That doesn't mean that if you see something on the shelf that's twelve dollars. Today it was ten dollars for the pandemic that transitory means the price will go back down to ten or even lower than that. What it means is that they just wanna make sure. Inflation is at trend in that the slope of that price level changes not running away from them which again very difficult to try to communicate to the general public for sure. And i will bet you. There are millions of people out there. Who've been hearing powell and us and everybody else say transitory in and have thought yes she was going to be back to normal and that clearly is not what the german neela. I wanna ask you about something else. Powell said and it was in response to how long it's gonna take andrew. It's at that piece of tape. We're clearly on a path to a very strong labor market with high participation low employment high employment wages moving across the spectrum that that's that's the path that we're on and it shouldn't take that long in macroeconomic time to get their macro economic time. It evoked to me something like paleolithic and you know pre-cambrian and those just those eras were just long. And i i don't know what do you think well okay. That's a new. One on may be honest. But i'm just going to go back to. The great recession was a real recession. Not a pandemic driven downturn and so i think that's a good comparison for macroeconomic time because it took a full three years before we saw the unemployment rate dropped below eight percent. More well with that. We reached that marker pretty quickly but this is not like a typical recession so the words clearly on a path to the kind of strong performance in the labor market. I think is yet to be seen as we look at some of the soft barriers around working. Yes there's high job. Openings which pow referred to but we still have a lot of unemployed folks out there so what is what is the reason for the mismatch is it. Transitory like the price increases or something structural miss that has changed the complexion of the labor market. We still don't know precisely for sure how strong that labor market progress will be. We'll see next week. But that's something to keep an eye on we'd source super-quick when you say soft barriers to employment you mean stuff like the virus and childcare and kids not being in school and that kind of thing. Yeah and i don't mean to to relate. The soft berry but absolutely childcare having reliable full-time childcare has been a big barrier for some workers. And so we gotta make sure that's in place as the school year starts to really see fulsome recovery drudge. okay brian. A changing gears gross domestic product for the second quarter. Or i look at it. Came out six and a half percent below what people were expecting but a lot of the a lot of the coverage was you know were the economy's back to where it was in in sheer numerical terms before the recession but the catches were not really recovered right. No not at all. And i think that when we talk about the gdp print. We have to acknowledge that. Obviously that's a whole separate measure where economy is employment and gdp. Prince are not gonna necessarily tell the same story we know that disparate impact specifically on low income people of color in terms of the impact of specific pandemic but when it comes to gdp at least on that front. It looks like things are pretty good. So goods and services consumption return interesting to see a big shift towards services that actually had a five percent contribution to the change in real gdp but there were some weights on there. You mentioned it. Missed the streets estimates. They were expecting something like eight point. Four percent a one. Big reason was because of imports that hatch. They had a negative one. Percents rag on that top line and then inventories as well which does underscore the supply chain bottlenecks in suggests that maybe people would have been consuming more. If simply the more products out there to consume with those bottlenecks next so neela. We've got a story from sabrina and another one from lebanon on what the delta variant might do but let me just have in literally like ten seconds or are you worried or not worried about the delta variant in the economy not worried about a national shutdown in the same way that we saw last year. I do think there is cause for concern about an episodic or short-lived regional Retrenchment in the reopening. That could dampen some of the labor market momentum that we've seen to date brown same deal ten seconds. Go i think so. I mean when we talk about on. Just broadly what's been going on. I think that the economy is definitely a. It's in motion right now. I think that when we take a look at the the numbers next week. It'll really give us a better idea of what's going on fair enough brunch on yahoo finance richardson at adp. Thanks you too thank you. Thanks every weekend on wall street today. Mostly read but you know not remarkably so we'll have the details when we do the numbers all right so one other thing as i was talking about right at the end there would brian neil one other thing. That powell said that we wanted to dig into he said in essence every new wave of the virus has had less and less of an economic impact and while it certainly does hope. That's true with this. New wave was also obliged in this business to report it out. Marketplace's abry mentor. Has the big picture look at a recovery. Perhaps we don't know maybe at risk. We can't understand the economy without understanding the virus and this variant is a hard one to figure out. But here's some things we're learning i. It's far more contagious than the original. Second you can get it and spread it even if you're vaccinated but it is really unlikely to cause serious. Illness vaccinated people. I think the real concern this unvaccinated once melina is merely ever is head of life. Sciences research at ihs market so emerging evidence. Still but it seems to be pointing in the direction of who they should he say. Hi severi disease people unvaccinated so there are two ways. This could slow. The economy governments could restrict consumers again or consumers could restrict themselves. God lebanon is an economist with the conference board. He in general more hesitant to to go out and about and spend particularly older people. He says who spend disproportionately on certain industries think cruises for example some local governments have introduced mask mandates but so far not much more than that. Michelle meyer is head of. Us economics at bank of america. Really think of this more as bomb then a permanent destruction of growth largely because a decent number of people are fully vaccinated around fifty six percent of those age. Twelve up samuel scardino rex. Pathogen surveillance at the rockefeller foundation. He says we're still learning about delta. But we do know one thing for sure. The vaccines are still highly effective at preventing severe disease and death even against the delta burien so the vaccines are as important for the economy as they are for people's health in new york. I'm sabrina ashore for marketplace. Or it if that was the economic and epidemiological macro there is a micro version of the delta varian story to do as well and a lot of places workers have been trickling back into their offices since the beginning of the summer a handful of hybrid employees at a in new york for instance the occupancy rate for commercial office space in the second quarter was double what it was in q. One downtowns are actually starting to feel a little bit like downtown's again and then delta came along and google and lift indeed an apple or just some of the companies that have pushed back there back to the office plans twitter reopened for two weeks. And then shut down again. And here's the catch. All of those companies and thousands of other companies making similar decisions. All across the country are surrounded by businesses that depend on people actually coming to work marketplace met levin. Has that one real estate lawyer. Steve mcdonald has been fled building near downtown san francisco for thirty years. He loves his suite of offices. They're home attached to the place. 'cause i designed it and you know. Got the fancy tapestries fireplaces and stuff like that which is why at a meeting yesterday. His law partners approached him. Very delicately and They were kind of sensitively. Me we'll see. How do you feel about even up the whole place. When we talked to mcdonald's a few months ago he was still trying to sublet his extra office space. Now he's okay giving it up and the twenty three thousand a month in rent this gotten you know much less likely that we would return to twenty nine nine normalcy. Laurie albert is worried about that too. She covers the new york. Market for commercial real estate company cushman and wakefield. You know. I hope that it doesn't go back to what it was a year ago because you know it was. Things were progressing. Momentum was building and and hopefully that will continue to be the that a theme j. house has gotten pretty used to revolving office reopening dates. They manage coffee cultures. Just a block from twitter. San francisco headquarters. The company may expand its food menu to lure more local residents. But how says those tweets have the money to spend on their daily cup of coffee and pastry. So our business will do a lot better with that help. In the meantime house doesn't have to compete with the free gourmet coffee at twitter. I'm matt levin for marketplace. All right inflation now in a behavioral economics kind of way proctor and gamble reported earnings. This morning made plenty of money of course but the company said its costs are going up which means the prices p. and g. charges. You and me are going up to september. Probably general mills. And kimberly clark said essentially the same thing but consumers are only gonna pay so much for stuff before they cut back or start looking for cheaper alternatives and the challenge is marketplace merrill zegarra reports is working out exactly what that price point is. Yeah prices are going up on. Everything and sarah jowitt in california has noticed like it costs more to go out to dinner. You definitely have this idea in your head you know. I'm going to go to this restaurant. And it's generally this amount for us. But i generally get the same thing. I'm kinda boring that way. So she's been cutting back skipping the soda or the bigger entree but the key here is that she knew prices went up. A lot of this is driven by do people notice mark. Bergen is a marketing professor. At the university of minnesota's carlson school of management anything essential that we frequently purchase. We noticed a lot but for one time purchases or splurges. He says people pay less attention to price now. If someone needs an item like diapers or laundry detergent they probably won't forego it altogether but they can look for substitutes. Tim smith is. Ceo of the consulting firm wig loft pricing or biggest issue. That matters is how close is the substitute what. What is my alternative to bind that product. How people respond to price hikes depends on something else to how financially secure they feel. That's about their finances but also their expectations. Colorado resident me set. Flora sand is cutting back on whatever she can right now. Almost every aspect of the economy just seems like it's kind of slipping away from her fingers whether that's buying a house or looking for a new rental property or just day to day purchases with prices rising in her salary stagnant. She's nervous about the future. I'm maryelle zegarra for marketplace. We have a podcast. We have a podcast. We have a podcast. We have a podcast downloaded if you miss us on the air coming up. It's a golden rule. You're always open seven days a week and not so golden right now turns out but first let's do the numbers dow industrial's down one forty nine day about four tenths percent closed at thirty four thousand nine. Thirty five nasdaq down. One hundred five point seven tenths percent. Fourteen thousand six seven two s and p five hundred. Shed twenty three points about a half percent forty-three in ninety five for the five days. Gone by the dow gave back three tenths percent. The nasdaq slipped one and a tenth percent the s. p. five hundred off three tenths percent amazon dropped seven and a half percent today because late yesterday the online retailer posted worse than expected quarterly revenue for the first time in three years also issued week guidance for the third quarter bond prices went up the yield on the ten year treasury. Note down to one point two two percent. Why don't we keep hammering the tenure keep hammering the tenure. 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How a more of the country get access to better internet. What new jobs will artificial intelligence create or destroy and what tools will help us. Survive are already changing climate. We tell the stories behind the technology in our lives and every weekday. Our podcast brings you insight. You won't hear on the radio checkout marketplace tech. Wherever you get your podcasts. This is marketplace. I'm kai ryssdal has been as i've been harping on all week. A week of measurements in this economy and those measurements can give us some really good insights into the inner workings of this economy. The report on durable goods. The other day is a great example. The number of unfilled orders for durable goods was up in june for the fifth month in a statistical manifestation of all the port congestion and supply chain delays. You have been hearing about but maybe things are loosening up gretchen. Blau is our customs broker friend at logistics plus. She is in erie pennsylvania. We're seeing a lot. More shipments going into ports that we haven't used much in the past. We're seeing a lot in Vancouver and portland New york is always been busy and it still continues to be busy. It's not it's not a it's not as as la. Our ceo sent us an email with picture outside the porta belli On monday morning the basically had thirty one ships stocked up ready to unload. It's not only the ships trying to get in. It's the unloading. It's the chassis. It's the it's the truckers. There's just isn't enough manpower or to get the containers unloaded. Once they're here and then move them out of the poor and efficient manner trucking's kind of at a premium where it you know. We're we're paying above goral prices to actually get the trucks to go into the port if there is availability the companies here in the us that import different goods. They all understand. Oh yeah did supply chains all messed up right now. It's kind of roll your eyes and just deal with it type of thing. At this point the section three thousand tariffs are still around. And everyone's just kind of accepted that fact for a little while. No one likes them. But you know it's it's something that's being accepted and people are definitely going through everything with a fine toothcomb like what part of my my shipment is dutiable. At what rate is it. Dutiable in some cases still looking for different sourcing solutions so that they can avoid the china tariffs. So there's still a lot a lot of explanation involved We are smaller brokerage. That's the main way we try to have an advantage. So that people get a better understanding of all all of those aspects of importing. I like staying busy. Because i you know i. I don't want to sit around. You know looking for something to do. I've never had to do that here. And it's just gotten busier. It makes life interesting. Chaos is something i could do without with the pandemic But yeah i do like the business. The pandemic and the total chaos can go way though. Yes same gretchen. Blau our customs broker friend in erie pennsylvania crazy as this sands were kinda heading into the home stretch of summer. Kids are gonna start heading back to school in a couple of weeks labor day's around the corner and a lot of us are squeezing in some last minute vacations and about that. The vacations this with so many international travel restrictions still in place. Domestic travel has been booming great for tourist destinations. Right cape cod. For instance has been packed. But as marketplace's samantha fields reports for businesses and on the cape. You can have too much of a good thing in the summer on cape cod pretty much. Everything is open seven days a week. Restaurants shops bike rental places. It's the golden rule. You're always open seven days a week and you get as much staffs it takes to be open seven days a week. Peter noble runs idle times bike shop. Which has a few locations and he says demand for rentals. This year has been way up. Helmets logs yes. But he says it's been really hard to find enough staff so hard that he had to break the rule and keep one of his shops in wellesley closed. One day a week. That's the first time that's ever happened in the history of our business. Lots of businesses all around the cape or closed one or two days a week this year or have limited hours there are help wanted signs everywhere i think you know. Maybe we had a false sense of hope and expectation. After twenty twenty it would be smooth sailing and it's still challenging tracy berry hunt. Owns a restaurant called winslow's tavern in downtown wealthy. I think that was fries. Earth salad finding enough waitstaff and kitchen staff has been one of the biggest challenges for berry this summer but not the only one. The supply chain is huge. We have a major vendor who just completely pulled the plug. They don't have delivery out here. Food costs are up significantly so our labor costs most businesses on the cape have raised wages this year that winslow's from the fourteen fifteen dollar an hour range to the eighteen to twenty dollar an hour range and so berry hunt says she's also raised prices and some guests don't understand that she says some guests also don't understand why winslow's isn't doing oyster happy hour every day anymore. It's a beautiful day. Why cannot always right now while the bartenders on a break and we don't. We're not doing it this year. noticing that we're not serving until nine thirty and why why can't i have dinner at nine thirty almost every restaurant and business. It seems is understaffed this year. At the same time there are more tourists on the cape than ever mack. Hey owns max seafood. Which includes a bunch of restaurants and fish markets plus a motel and in past years. He says the motel would normally be around seventy five to eighty five percent full in the summer months this year. We're hovering in the ninety seven to one hundred percent occupancy rate so we're booked for the rest of the summer we've never ever seen that. Before and that his restaurants the volume of customers coming through is up thirty or forty percent over twenty nineteen hollywood special shirt breweries or reply to eliminates the. Are those a heretic them here at knacks on the pier in wellesley customers. Stand in line to order from a window and eat at picnic. Tables in the sand on the harbor standing in line has always been part of the experience here but in past summers. Hey says we used to be at peak volume for like an hour and a half and now we're at peak volume for five hours every days of busy saturday. It's so busy so often at all five of his restaurants that there comes a point pretty much every night now where they just have to cut off online orders and stop answering the phone. Something that used to happen. Maybe once or twice a year. It's really a rare phenomenon that we're going through and it's good in some ways but it's also incredibly stressful in other ways customers for the most part he says had been great patient understanding aware of at least some of the challenges are gonna ask probably forty to fifty times a day. How things are going and they all want to know how. How is the staffing issue. And i say we're in great shape where we have just enough workers but just enough is not enough and that's just enough for now. A lot of those workers are high school in college students. Who will be heading back to school in a few weeks. And if this fall is anything like last fall. The tourists will keep coming on cape cod. i'm samantha fields for marketplace. This final note on the way out today. A quick olympics update at a gender pay equity update all in one and i will pause briefly for a spoiler alert break talk and women's soccer scores. Just just wait. Just wait and hang on okay. So the women's team beat the netherlands today on a penalty. Kick shootout the semis or monday. That is the sport. The pay equity thing is this. We have told you. The women's team is suing. us soccer governing body. for pay discrimination. They have lost the first round. The women have the cases currently on appeal here. Though is the news. The men's national team has filed a brief in support of the women saying in relevant part that us soccer. And here's the quote and remember. This is the men saying. This has persistently treated the women as second class throughout the thirty five year. History of the women's national team. So there you go all right. We gotta go. Here is your moment of economic context. It's a quickie. Just because somebody's got to keep track to the list of companies requiring workers to be vaccinated at disney all salaried and non union employees have sixty days to get it done there in talks with the unions about the rest of the workers. Our theme music was composed by. Bj liederman marketplace's executive producers. Nancy forgotten cass. It is the managing director of news. I'm kai ryssdal. We will see him on. Everybody have yourselves a great weekend. All right this is apn.

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I Got Corona and a Manager (Feat. Bryan Yang)

Asian, Not Asian

44:43 min | 1 year ago

I Got Corona and a Manager (Feat. Bryan Yang)

"Ladies and gentlemen sees welcomed the host of the lockdown it's danger and number twelve. Okay everybody welcome back to another episode off the lockdown I. I'm your host Zack danger. I am number twelve okay today today. Today's May second. Are you embarrassed to say you're a robot naming a guest? Is that what's happening right now? It's it's it's you know what it is. It was kind of cool to have a robot name. When it was more apocalyptic and the weather was bad. But it's weird to have a robot name when there's birds in the sky and there's like Nice lies like number you know you're like that weird kid at don't call me by my slave name like come on. Bro. Yes and joining us. Today is a good friend. He's been on the pod multiple times. He's on the live podcast show. He's a he's a stand up comedian just like us. Just yes and Mike Road here that his biggest credit that he's got antibodies and we'll find out we'll find out more about that later but let's give it up for Brian. Yeah a good to see people who aren't my wife Asian faith and month all my God an Asian face. It's so important to see an Asian face basis. I wonder if that's a startup. Could do you know what I'm saying like Ordering Asian O. Rien faithful Asian facebook. Yeah come outside your apartment and just wave at you. And say hey. Let's go to a of your. I guess I guess yes. We have in the in the in terms of the lockdown lockdown era. I guessed and we wanted to get you. Obviously you're afraid of the POD you've been you've been you've been since the beginning and also you have an audio setup and that helps a lot. Yeah Yeah mainly yeah this holiday you have the Bluetooth Mike. So that's good do. Should we just get right into it? Mike I kind of do want to just get right into and we can always come back later. I know I know we're just like let's talk about comedy shows. Fuck that New Bryan. Young has got some shit. I gotta say I want. I want I wanted to come from you you you you were out for a little bit and we'll just start from the top. What happened man for sure so like we were talking off air? The last time I saw guys we were doing a show making fun of Corona virus. Literally two weeks after that. I got Kerr agree. Yeah I know you know what's so crazy. Corentin has made time meaningless right. That show was only two months ago and it feels like it was ten years ago long time ago man. You know my instagram from the pictures and it was the first week of March which will stand up comedian. We were a quiet place. We're just we're just hiding from the monster jokes anymore. So yeah like how did it feel when you first got it? Did you think? Oh this is okay or or and also where do you think you got it? Okay so my wife is a nurse and I feel like she gave it to me. I feel like she got it somewhere and then got it. She was only sick for three days so I was like. Oh great where young everything you hear on the news is like you know. If you're young it'll just you'll get it but they won't be that bad. It'll be like the flu so I was like okay. Fine I'll she'll she'll probably get me sick and I'll have it for three days as well and I just had a fever for ten days. That never went away. I was just like Oh my God. Yeah the sickest I've ever been in my whole life In just wouldn't get better so I was calling my doctor on the phone on and off for that week and they're like okay. You probably have it but you probably won't get tested even if you come to the hospital because you're so young they're just going to tell you the same thing we're telling you right now which is stay home and just rest and drink a lot of fluids and I was like okay but I felt really really sick so but they just kept telling me that so I just did that for basically a week and a half. But didn't you go to the hospital yes so on the tenth day? I call my doctor again because I was telling my wife like I can't live like this cabin fever for this stuff so bad so you have a cough and all did you have that. The to- thing you know. I'm talking about rash tow. It's it's like a discoloration of the to- that's like something. They think is a symptom. But I mean yeah. What are the other the tate the tasting girlfriend she had as you can chicken smell or taste anything for a little bit? Yeah so I lost my sense of smell and taste really weird Buddhist taste like cardboard. It's weird just nothing And then the the biggest thing for me was I had a fever and body aches like the worst. You feel like someone just punched you in every part of your body and then the shortness of breath basically by the tenth day. It was really really hard for me to breathe. Shit were you were you were like basically I found out at the hospital that my oxygen levels your oxygen levels are must be ninety nine hundred. That's the number that the normal oxygen levels are in your body mind went down all the way to eighty nine. Oh so sad. That's when they were like okay. We have to admit him because his symptoms are severe. Even though he's young so that's when I went to the Er and then was admitted to the hospital. They have do Your B Plus. But that's not bad ransom so when you're at the hospital what what was it like in the hospital was like a scene from contagion was a craziness. Was it like so there. I'd never been to. I'd never been admitted to a hospital like this before. Were like you're in a bed wearing a gown right so basically it is like contagion right now. The hospitals are madness basically They're super impacted. There are tons of people sick there. there are people like in beds in the hallway. 'cause there's not an all my God so I luckily got my own room initially just to wait to get my real room because there you have to wait for someone to leave and then you can get a real hospital room so I was in the Waiting Area and you have no idea what's going on because you're so sick so I was just sitting there for hours and then finally nurse came in and gave me a gown and told me what was going on that I would have to wait there for a few hours until I got my own room and so they transported me to the basement which was another holding area. That part was insane because as I was being transported down I saw them wheeling a dead body right to the most likely like okay as soon as somebody dies you can have their room. I was at a hopefully they. Hopefully they had met her and get released. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah so it was A. It was a stretcher with basically like a small box in a white sheet on top of the lake. A body saw in going down. That's crazy that's not a birthday cake for Schuermann. Wow No did you. Did you like the day like tests you at all? Or they were just like they looked at you and they're like you definitely have it. They did a x Ray in my lungs and they were immediately. Yeah your your lungs look exactly like what cove it is and then they did the Kobe test. Which is they? Take it. Like a q tip. That's this law. It's your brain right. They put it in your nose up. It feels like it's hitting the tip of your brain fuck inside. Don't they? Do it like twice up. H I only did it. Well thank God. It's so uncomfortable. Everything about coveted sucks man. The fever the body aches the test. Everything sucked are. They still do you know if they're still doing. I thought Bill Gates was saying you could just swab your nose now. Is that the case. I have no idea what the fuck mill gates is talking talk. You guys know you take the helicopter to the hospital building for you when you get there. Shut UP BILL ON. My wife is a nurse and cheese where she's working like on the front lines right so he said that there could be a vaccine for covet in nine months. And she's like there's no. There's probably no way that that's possible. that's crazy so easily like a year and a half to two years so I don't know he's he's a billionaire and I think he's just very optimistic but I have no idea. Yeah for me I mean I was just in the hospital three weeks ago and at that time. I think nothing has really changed. They testing was still like very limited. I Really WanNa test me at all. So I'm not sure about the swab being that he's talking about. So did I mean like what were you thinking where you think were you like real fray? I mean of course you must've been afraid but like you know like if anything is just like are you like what were you tweeting? What are you doing because you're sitting there and all you tattoo you're in the hospital and you should get a manager while your manager like. Hey this is the worst I've ever gotten. You know like fucking five so the manager thing because we were in quarantine. She had come. See Me to stand up in February and she was like you really funny. I'M GONNA keep my eye on you. And then we all went to Corentin and she was like. Oh Shit like your tweets have been like you know keeping me saying they're really funny and I had like a tweet goes viral. The one about if you can call this the Asian virus than we get to. Yeah that blew up and then she was like. Oh Shit look meeting so the cool thing. I will not cool. But the weird thing about corona virus is that your fever goes up and down so one day I would have like a hundred and four in another day weed. Go all the way back down to ninety nine. So Luckily Today. I had a skype meeting with her. My fever had gone down and I was like Oh shit. I'm getting better. I'm getting a manager Arrows. My birthday also. I had corona virus on my birthday in the hospital or we at home. I was in the hospital three days after my birthday but basically my birthday was like when he was getting really bad. Did you take the manager call from the hospital like in your Gal? No SO I? I got signed three four days before I wouldn't always this. Yeah so I got signed and then we were supposed to have another meeting and I had to email her and be like I'm in the hospital co vid and luckily like she's Super Nice. He's like around our age so she's really young and she's cool so she's like. Oh Shit like well. Let me know if you need anything. It was more than just like a we kind of connected right away. It was more than just like a business relationship. She was worried about mean like asking about my wife and stuff so that was cool. Yeah Yeah congrats on that. So I mean yeah like how. How how what were you thinking? What was going through your mind as you were like in the hospital. The first night was scary. Because you have no idea what's going on and they kind of just whisked me away. I I didn't even get to say bye to my wife. She took me to the yard and once said your severe they just put me in a wheelchair and then wheeled me away and then gave her some stuff to take home right and then she left and then I was in the hospital just buyers i. It was really weird and surreal and then basically I was just so out of it for that first week that I didn't feel anything. I was just unconscious. Basically did they give you stuff? Did they give you the stuff to sleep or or was there any water so I was put on a breathing tube immediately basically and then they put you on an Ivy and then they gave me Kalana pin just like chill me out so then that first week I was so sick and like pretty much medicated? To just be like zoned out you know do an iconic came to the Second Week. I was in the hospital You had you had this tweet. That was like talking about how you know. What are the symptoms for? Croatia is diarrhea. But you can't go along because you're two weeks so it's a lot of shitting yourself. Is that yeah is that true. Can you comment on? What happened there for sure? John Gaskin hard hitting questions. I mean this is comedy too. Okay yes so yeah basically. While I had a fever year St- It in something like twenty percent of Kobe patients. You experience diarrhea so I just hit the Jackpot like grass. I come in Las. Yeah I turn thirty two. At a week I had so You can't breathe and the weird thing about covert is any you. You don't realize when you're healthy. How much you need oxygen. Yeah talking you need. I couldn't talk just moving like moving. Your arm like this takes oxygen. You need a body to go into your blood so that you can move. So just I remember shifting to the side in my bed and all the oxygen leaving my body and gas craziness man. That's when I knew like this is really bad and then on top of that having diarrhea so you need to walk to the bathroom diarrhea right but then how can you walk when you can't breathe so I was basically holding my shit in in the hospital because I was scared to lose all the oxygen in my body so one night I really had to shit and I was connected to everything right. I'm clip can they? I mean Sheen I'm connected to an IV. So I take off my breathing tube and run to the bathroom as fast as I can. So I don't lose Oxygen Shit and I don't even have time to wipe my ass shows like if I did. I would pass out so I pulled up my pants and then go back into the bed. So there's just like Shell over me. Wendy and then the nurse had to come and like give me new clothes. They don't like if it was any other circumstance. I would be embarrassed but it was like dude. I'm so sick I don't even fuck like yeah so and then they had to give you like. There's no shower so they give you wipe so. I don't know it was so fucking crazy bro. And then one night because I told him I can't go to the bathroom. They gave me a Bedpan shit to the nurse literally helped me onto the Brian and I share in my daily role to one side. And they put it in that you roll back over. Yeah I don't yeah. Then they put your bed up and share and then she waits it away for C. Like looking at you. No no no they really come back. I can do. Actually she has a chart out and she's like come on. This is streaming on facebook that yeah man hospitals man. That's crazy bros. Oh okay but then that went on for a while like the kind of like shortness of breath could can't can't even can't even wipe because that would take too much energy. You know like that went on for a while. Then it did. It went on for about a week and a half and I remember once. I got strong enough in the hospital to go to the bathroom by myself. If I felt like I was climbing man. Just imagine not being able to take yourself to the bathroom. It's the worst pain like having the pee or poo right. You're just like buck. I can't make it now that I'm healthy. I appreciate being able to do stuff on my own so much. Like when you're at the mercy of someone who's there to help you. You really feel like so inadequate and helpless. It's so crazy to be healthy again and be able to to have autonomy so speaking of inadequate. Let's talk about your Dick Okay. So what happened. Then yeah what happened there. Okay so same thing right. You can't go to the bathroom so I'm peeing into this ball. I looked like kind of a water. They connected to your bed and it has a graduation so you can see how much you peeing because there. Are they ready to fifty? Am Checking Your pee to make sure because one of the symptoms of Kobe is kidney failure. So there's Oh yeah some people it shuts down all their oriented and that's how they die right So I was lucky. He just attack my lungs and they were able to clear that up with a antibiotics. So I'm paying into this thing in my wife's a nurse so she's like they're after. I left the hospital. She's like so. They cleaned your bottle like every three days right but I was. They were so busy. They didn't have time to really clean anything the way they would. If it was like a normal hospital stay so I paid into this filthy bottle for basically a week soon as I got out. I got a new T. I I got a urinary tract infection so I I had cove it got better and then immediately got a Uti once again. Because you're being this like dirty thing and the bacteria that must have gotten into your. How does that like was it getting to a point where like your your penis was touching liquid? European or something. It was just yeah. I think it's just like they didn't really clean. It's usually your dicks not touching anything right right right. And it's I think my dick was touching that worse than coveted. Because I just made my bladder fill full all the time. So now you've got a duty bottle dude. Yeah so. This is the sharing that story. That's nice of you to share that. I think I think I think my earlier but like again. Refer to one of your tweets. Because I wanna what's going on in your head you tweeted. You're like it's weird almost dying because you don't die you're just like I guess I'll eat a banana or something like that. What did you think you're going to die? And if so what was like? What were you thinking about man down morning that a tweeted that Was when all the doctors came to see me and they were like Whoa. You look away better today like we were really worried and really so when you're when you're really sick. I realize like you don't know I didn't know I was that close. And they'll tell you they didn't tell. I remember one night because they check on you every few hours so it's kind of like eight. Pm The night shift APM midnight and four. Am they come and check on you and I remember budget and usually the doctors don't check on late at night? It's just the nurses but one night like four doctors. I remember. We're hovering over me and they were talking about admitting means to the ICU. Oh I was just in the regular hospital but my oxygen levels are so low that okay. He's right on the edge for. Should we take him to the ICU? And then the doctor just put a surgical mask over my oxygen mask in that trap to the more oxygen as my o two levels so they were like okay. He doesn't need to go to the ICU. But they were like your immune system. Had A huge overreaction to the virus so it was just attacking everything in my body. Oh Shit and that's when they I think they were like he could possibly. I think it was like fifty fifty. I think it was a toss up. Michael I just got better for whatever reason the second week I just got better but that first week I think it was really bad. I couldn't talk. I couldn't breathe on my own. I have no idea what happened. What they gave me. Whatever antibiotics I was on but that second week I just remember every doctor coming into seeing Siemian they just call you by your last name. That's on your chart and your room and they're like gang you bad you look great now. Those are the worst. They said. They didn't use any scientific bro. But now it's good. Did one like nearly would've turned around only so that morning breakfast. The doctor came to see me and he was like Woo. You really bad last week like you're doing a lot better so that's when I tweeted that like. Yeah so weird to know that I could have died in that feeling and now I just have to like do Monday. Just like regular shit my breakfast. So it's like the most dramatic thing that could happen to you and then you just like well. I guess I just keep living. Yeah who do you think you have like a? Do you think a different. I know you're still recovering. Do you feel like you have a different perspective on like life or maybe just as disease immediate goals. Because it's his parents like yeah. You're posting all your sick outfits. Now you know it's pretty cool. Change fashionable shaved your head and they look good. I'm coming Mike I'm I I totally had a complete change on my entire outlook on life I I'm not scared to do anything anymore. I don't have as much self doubt like when you come that close to dying. You realize like how little things matter and how quickly things can be taken away so now. I'm like dude. If I have a dumb idea for pilot I'm GONNA fuck it and write it. I'm not going to be scared that some people are GonNa think it sucks or that you know. It's not the right fit for someone like I'm just going to do it. And I think a lot of that comes from the confidence of like also getting signed in that validation of like okay. I mean I don't know how you guys feel to me if you're a comedian New York and you get signed by one of the bigger talent companies. That means like you're doing it and doing well and in almost die. It's like dude. I have that validation. I know I'm one of the comics. That PEOPLE WANNA book and I just don't have like self doubt about anything anymore and that's like yeah. L. Fitted the day thing. I'm just like I'm in quarantine I'm bored. I like to wear clothes in his fucking do this. I don't have like self conscious behavior and I think awesome dude. I feel that you got signed by the manager. And then when when you were poop in yourself bro that was God signing you man. You're what's up? You look terrible but and you're shooting yourself but just what you bro. You know how many years on the end of this. Yeah it's funny. Yeah so okay. So speaking of like not being afraid of doing things anymore not being afraid to voice. Your opinions may be who you are. You had another tweet that I thought was so funny. I want to discuss and we can bleep this person's name later if you want but no. I I. Don't give them a five. This is the real warn Brian. Okay Well Okay. So this is okay. Let's let's start here. We're you know we're all joking about being steps and stuff but we all love comedy. We Miss Stand up and we WANNA keep doing comedy. Whatever shape or form that will exist in the near future right We do see a lot of people online. Who are Jonesing for some stage. Time Josie producing other comedy show and somebody recently. An owner of a club tweeted or like was a facebook status. That was like hey like what would it take for you guys to come back and do a show here again? Like what would you guys do it for six feet? Apart and a lot of comics were like the smart ones like it would take a vaccine. But the ones were like. I'd be happy to do anything. I'd wear masks whatever it has met. See whatever just giving crown. I'm Jonesing for comedy which I get the Spirit. But you took a screen shot of that on twitter. And you're like there wasn't even a joke. This is fucking stupid. People are dying comedies. Dumb go home or something like that. Yeah well in. I realized like obviously. We all live comedy. But when you die from this I think because a lot of people are dying but for a lot of people it hasn't affected them other than the quarantine and they don't know anyone who has gotten sick right right so I almost died. And it's like dude when you almost die. You're not thinking about stand up on your family all this shit. You didn't get to do like you're not thinking like oh I want to fucking go. Performance reformer in the quarantine. It's going to be the news. I'm not going to what the fuck instead insane to me. How don't take the seriously the? Here's an example right at my mother and father in law kind of weren't taking this seriously and then I got sick and now they take it more seriously than anyone I know. And that's what sucks about this thing because it's not like nine eleven where you see the tower coming down. It's invisible and basically these we'll just going to have to know someone who dies are almost dies before they take it seriously. It's so stupid. Like in the grand scheme of life stand up does not matter and we know this because right now. We're not doing standup okay. Shooting their pants. Because you know we're we're we're in survival mode right now as we should be for the greater good of humanity and wants things. Come back to normal. Then let's start to have that conversation of like. How do we hold public events now after this pandemic but to fuck and see that like three days after I get out of the hospital in almost dying? I'M GONNA use the dumbest Shit. I've yeah what do you what do you think have you done like an zoom shows. Like what do you think is GonNa Happen to stand up? We might have kind of talked about. I don't exude shows more than going new live stand for. Yeah Mike Mike is Actually pretty good at zoom shows. I I know what school do want. I'm Kinda good at them too. And I weirdly have done only two so far since I've gotten out of the hospital and got paid both times so I'm like one hundred percent rate I getting paid and then I was telling my wife. This is great. Like 'cause I just do my set and then I go right to the living room to hang out with her. I don't have to take the train in our home from Brooklyn Awesome. You know what's Kinda cool to? Is that If you get booked on more than one you can like immediately teleport to denote. That's like the cool thing is like one and then like oh where is it? It's in Australia. You're you're there you know we're all just like like bullshit. I don't know if I can go back to like the clubs. There's smoking I mean. Do we were. Yeah we were talking about that. It's like you know I think like all three of us are on. The same page is like yeah like that. We like comedy. I'm happy to do it in whatever shape or form that exists like some people. I think my friends who are still row dogs. You know I heard yesterday close friends. She was like a road. Dog is like trying to book dates for Twenty one right now. That's what she's doing and it's like that's I'm glad she's like keeping busy and stuff but it's like oh man like I don't know who's right but but when I heard that I was like. Oh that's not for me. I don't know if that's what I'm getting from all of this on. Yeah so I. I was booked on a lot of shows. Outta town this Spring Lake once the quarantine heaven. I was kind of happy because they didn't have to do these days because some of them were like in Minnesota and Wisconsin. And I'm like oh I'm so glad I don't have to go. The shows would have been fun but like I hate when. You're just there during the days like the hanger happening nothing to do during the day Yeah I think that's cool too that maybe wanting that's maybe nice to is like more of the money goes to the stand ups because like if there's not really like interface you know what I'm saying. The club has is like has its own business thing is trying to do and then like with the zoo trying to sell drinks exactly. They're trying to do all we got rent. Okay we got to pay for this zoom account which which it is but like you know it's not that much and then you know i. It's like a whole new shift. I mean are you trying to do other things now? You writing that dumb pilot or you like you know. You got like Mo posting more on Instagram tweets and shit like what else are you doing? Shift to like. Social media for me has totally. I've been like I tweeted a lot anyway but now I knew said not think I would be able to do those front facing character and I've started doing that more that's And you know like who knows what will happen with that. The two I've done have been pretty fun and then one kind of win by the one where I'm banging pots and pans saw. Yeah so I don't know I I'm GonNa just try to do comedy in whatever form I think like stand up to my first love and when we can go back to do it? I I just can't imagine how awesome that's GonNa feel like the CR- the crowds are going to be pretty crazy. Feel because everyone's been cooped up at home for so long Right now I think like it's gotTa be Mike you know like it's gotta be like MMA. I think you have to be versatile. Perform stand up. Can't be the only do stand up like that's kind of a weakness right now you also have to know how to write or do podcast or do front facing video on social media like you have to have a lot of facets to your game right now so now. That's what. I'm training those other areas that I wasn't when we were just all doing stand up all the time. Yeah I agree because I'm not a front. I never thought I was out face camera guy but like I mean might have been doing some shit. I made a funny SPA. There's also like there's a Brian Yang Way to do a front facing things so you don't have to go there and do that. Classic like I don't know you know how the twitter videos like cuts. You can still. You can do a Brian Yang version of that. That feels right for you. I think that like we're trying to figure out yet. Just like stand up is like you find your voice in that you play to your strength and I think the really popular ones now like Viktor are the ones where you're playing a character talking to the camera. Yeah I'm not good at that. So yeah you kind of take that form and use it to the best of your ability. So I'm kind of trying to do it the way I would do it for sure. Yeah the money thing is interesting because actually you should just do our show this Friday. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA book your gas. Combine your book because it's funny because like we've money wise like you're right like we have the making more money with the overhead is so low. There's nothing it's like twenty bucks a month or whatever additional thirty to allow multiple three hundred people on the shows. I've been doing They'll pay you and then they let you put your Venezuela and then people who like you just send you like five bucks. That's awesome to me. I'm telling you it's all it's all only fans now. You know it's all again we've basically you know what's funny is like porn has always been the big innovator for everything and we're following in the porn stars footsteps because now porn people like they don't just do porn they also have a twitch stream right they also like because they're playing. Vm's they got the only fans thing that got exclusive content for their fans. There are tweeting a lot doing. Yeah we're we're basically just like much dumber porn. Stars who make less money should have always been people and we should have just been doing whatever you know. Whoever has been doing for forever yes okay? So the race news today. Corentin news today Vice. Had this very serious shit on here so today. We thought we'd lighten the mood. This is silly article Vice. The headline reads petting the cat. Wrong and sixteen other ways. Our partners are trying to hurt us so the synopsis weeks of isolation have brought to light bunch of Bafflingly bafflingly bizarre habits. We never noticed about the people we love so people are confessing. Just weird things. They've knows about their partners. Now that now that they're together twenty four seven things. That really annoyed them. So for example somebody wrote from Austria. My boyfriend almonds by slowly nibbling on the end of one then shoving it gently into the side of his cheeks until his faces bursting with them like a cartoon squirrel. I hate it. I hate him. A guy like personal a personal example is like I didn't notice this because we were. We worked together for so long. I hate meritas. Work Foam Voice. I can't stand it because she does like the fake laugh and like just like her pitch goes up a little bit. That's not the way she talks in real life. It's not just a jargon thing it's just like her frequency just rubs my brain the wrong way. You know it's like it's a natural. It's just wanted to ask you about quarantine because you are to me. You're in a situation worse than having Cova Guy Suggests opened your relationship. God was only years for two years Brian. He's going to be cool. I was joking with Mike the other day about how the only way I could do. An open relationship now is like seeing that movie her. Okay so I would have to meet someone online. And then get her on the phone give air pods two marinas body and then. Maria would have to pretend that she's this other girl but I would be having sex. Maria Dow the only way to do it or like are you. Are you on pause? I'm not doing shit. No My strategy was always because I can't do the online right. I'm not an online guy. I don't have Brian Parks Space. I can't do online dating but like but like I ran do well at a show. Majorities afterwards bedrock game. But for me I don't even WanNa play the game. I don't have a shot. You know. That's funny. I crippled with the pipe. To the IT's like I'm like I'm like Steph Curry. Nba just like number three pointers wrong. That's funny yes. Yeah that's the way that Standups what I'm saying like 'cause like hot people I fail. They can send each other nudes. And then you're like. Oh Hey this is. This is an all time. Great time for hot people. It's amazing right but for us. We LIKE OUR STAND. Upset is our nudes you know. That's how people ever got. Girls was like being funny in Real Life. So now let's go. Let's go let's imagine like they're fucking awesome. We're all hanging out here on this podcast. The three the three six. That's funny guys. I think for operating unless we definitely went above and beyond a partner because Oh yeah harder. Percents I did WANNA follow up with that. So like is there you know. How's your wife? How's your wife do it? I mean she still working a lot is she like still she out. There luckily being in the healthcare field. She's busier than ever. So she's she's a nursing director and she's still going to school to get her doctorate so right now today she's volunteering and taking calls about Cova from New York resident so basically if you have symptoms or you think you have symptoms. You can call three one one and she's one of the nurses that will pick up and basically talk you through like what you need to do. So she's doing that right now but was saying she's using her fake phone voice. Aw Sick people. But it's driving me. Nuts dude I can't believe that she's volunteering even on her off time to help people and you're hanging out with us. This is sick. Be quiet because remember how many what's Mike what's this contagion? The game try to think of a game. I couldn't think of one it'll be fine and we or or you mean otherwise. I mean we might is gene doing anything. It's bothering. You guys. Perfect no perfect general. We're pretty good. The this isn't really anything I didn't know before I guess the thing a bug me she knows is that A lot of times. I'll have to like lock down into like because I'm trying to like you know some comedy thing or I'm trying to work on like What's it just work my day job and she'll be like okay. You're busy social like go. But then she'll keep talking to me. Do you know what I'm saying? Like she'll just keep light job. I'm working and she knows that she's like she. 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Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Chapter 12 "The Siege"

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Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Chapter 12 "The Siege"

"Hello everyone and welcome slash on daily for friday november twentieth. Twenty twenty on today's episode. We're not a spoiler filled discussion about the fourth episode. Disney plus the middle or season two entitled the siege the slash editor in chief. Peter surata. Joining me out to podcasts. Slash home weekend editor roman. Hey that's me. Special guests from star wars insider star wars com the fullest this podcast and a little cycled slash com bryan young. It is my great pleasure to join you all okay. let's before we get into this episode let's let's talk about some some feedback we got from last week's episode I always get we get emails. We got comments and stuff and we'd just bring up this one had A lot less feedback than than usual but You know we were all praising bryce dallas howard last week with last week's episode her her direction not to take anything away from her and How good that episode was. But we did get a message for someone who wants to remain nameless saying that Are pointing out that sam. Hargrave was the second unit director of that last episode He did Stunts and second unit on films like an game deadpool. Two mcgahn in the accountant and not that we should take away from styles howard but also we should know that could of that talent was involved. Could i ask if if sam hargrave is the one who sent you this message. He was he was not but okay. No that's fair that's very can before. Can i like like maybe push back a little bit on this. Go for it go for it because like when a movie is bad or good no one ever goes like well that directors fine but really the second unit director like it's ma- i'm not saying the the listener everything falls on the director. Yes like. I'm not saying that this this smacks of sexism. It does a little bit. Where like if if like. Nobody said that j.j. Abrams second unit director. Rice skywalker. really dropped the ball. You know what i mean. Yeah like it wasn't his second unit director of female. It was the point is is that like i guess. The thing i'm saying is that when no one was praising a woman here in this case we're we're like oh she did great she did great and then somebody kinda ges elbows their ways way in and says like hey you know like she's great and all but there was this guy here behind the scenes who propped all that up for her sam hargraves. Great his stunt work is great but yeah that narrative i dunno it just smacks me there on a little bit. I i definitely see. That's why i was trying to present to in a a way out. I was yes. I could totally see that narrative. I don't think that's where the person who submitted this as someone within the film industry that like probably works with a lot of people on the out. I took it more of a a craft thing than a and i was great. Yeah so But yeah you're good point. That is a good point. You know when things are great you know when avengers endgame like when people are talking about how great the action isn't that like you know. Rarely do they point out. Sam hargrave right so it's the versa brother. So you have a good point brian. So but okay The other one point out is the axe wove. He was one of the middle oriented from west week's episode. We learn that. That was actually a a name that was created by george lucas while visiting sets so that the most george lucas name a scandal. What's axe it is. Although the most george lucas name would be like acsc Strongman you need to have like last name that tells you more about what they do actor. So that's the next toy. Yeah oh in chopping action. Do a guys can remember saturday. Talking about mandalorian. In one of the people in their named ziam Had a little funny bit of Speculation said They said do you think when soka finally meets up with the mandalorian in the child and mando asks her you know. Do you know where this child like anything about the child. Do you think soco will comment that. It looks like a baby. Yoda because she knows yoda right with. Would that be a funny way to comment on the phantom. Go there like this episode was written before the phantom knew about baby. Yoda that's true true Well you're talking about episode was we're gonna assume she's gonna appear in episode five but also. I think that everyone was onset though was still referring to him as baby. Yoda right. 'cause that's probably true. Yeah because they didn't have a species name or at least most people don't know it if they if they do know it yet so i just think it'd be a fun way to you know. Make a joke. That kind of canonize his baby. Yoda in a way. Not not that. Changes the child's named a baby. But it just be a funny like inside. Reference doesn't know who iota is like. Why do you keep calling it that. Who's iota the other thing. I saw on twitter jordan mason. He made a tweet said what if we eventually get a movie down the road that takes place three hundred years after the rise skywalker featuring a grown version of the child. Raising a new generation workers telling the stories of his mandalorian father and how they helped A unique the clans. Do you think we're ever going to get an adults baby. Yoda i think. It's pretty doubtful although it does make me wonder whether yoda's entire species Victory wonder what makes me makes me wonder. If yoda's entire species speaks backwards the same way that yoda's or you know because you have to wonder if it's going to be weird hearing another species because we never heard yellow talk Even though we've we've seen her but yeah that's That'd be it'll be interesting to see what different older version of your species would be like while i'm once it's able to actually talk and his like a baby but yeah did we ever fear yellow talking like expanded non canon now legends books or anything like that. We ever get any dialogue from yet. I can't think of any off the top of my head. I know she had some stories. But i can't remember if they were told is like someone else was relating them and i can't i. I will do some digging into that. Okay we'll report back next episode Okay let's get into this episode this episode four of season to the chapter twelve in the series It's thirty nine minutes. Long with that you know recap and the intro and the concept art and all that stuff so it's really like a thirty minute episode or so Carl weathers is the director he. He's directed a lot of like television over the years decorate brian. Yeah i mean. He got his start directing television doing a whole bunch of episodes of silk stockings. Which is an interesting place for him to start but been around film in the camera you know since the seventies so it's not a surprise he took that jump but at the mandalorian conference Press conference that that we were both at peter You remember him talking on the stage about how him getting offered. The part came with the caveat that he wanted to direct to because that was really the trajectory his career had been in and he was less interested in acting and more interested in directing and this episode was the result of that. This is easily the biggest thing that he's done to like looking back at his photography. Like this is crazy. Bigger than any other thing that he's he's worked on like the the biggest show. What is the biggest thing before this did it episode of the the new hawaii. Five o for cbs. I don't think i've ever seen anything directed by carl weathers. I will say after seeing this episode. I am impressed I mean there might be something to be said about this machine. That is the the mandalorian like you know like it. Seems like they're really in a groove and it might be. I don't wanna say easy to succeed in this venue but like i thought it was pretty impressive like he did a pretty good job. Of course you know. He made it fun and interesting and exciting even though it's another adventure of the week You know in terms of the story of progressives. The main mystery of what's mafia gideon's plan is and the hunt for baby. Yoda has some familiar. Beats kind of echoing. The original trilogy in ways Brad what did you think of this week's upset. Well i think it should be noted that the second unit director was silent episode. It was i. We talked last week. And i predicted that this would be a detour fernando that he needed to get a ship fix and i would probably end up going on some kind of a side mission with kara in grief. And that's exactly what what we get here But the great thing about it is that it's not entirely just another adventure of the week because we actually learn some cool stuff which will get you later that ties into the over arc of the child and what the empire wants with With it and that kind of thing so the this this had good action It developed a story in a way that was that was satisfying. And so i'm was It was one of those episodes where even though it was a pit stop. I think it was a valuable one. Brian what did you think. Yeah no. i'm really on board with that. This felt like the the trip to the gas station on the way you know in the middle of the road trip. Toward the final estimation the episode really had a lot of that classic star. Wars feel And i'm sure we'll talk more about this because there are images to a new hope empire an jet. I all through this episode. And i think that's where car weather sort of cut his teeth on star wars in the first place as a fan So that makes a lot of sense that he would sort of get this episode in that way but also like it just had this really fun. I put in my refute for slash film that he brought like this big grandpa energy to it right like end to end it. Just sort of permeates everything. Where it's exactly like i can imagine like watching reruns of mass with my grandfather like the it gave me that feeling right of like that that sort of generation in their take on star wars in a way that is really interesting. And we haven't got that with any other episodes as much. I think that that that's definitely fair Okay let's jump into this episode and go by it begins with a razor crafts. Having trouble baby eda's helping rewire the ship. But he doesn't quite understand mando's instructions and short circuits the power. Is it just me or does this feel like it's very like bb groot from guardians galaxy ira but also i think there's a little bit of an to haunt and chewy you know hans like no that one goes there. This one goes here kind of thing. And it's it's a. It's a cute scene watching him. Try to figure it out and be kind of confused simply him just looking back and forth. The wires is just such a delightful moment. Yeah no i got. I got more of a hot and she revived but also like when he's actually getting electrocuted. It reminded me a lot of that. Moment with george are infanta medicine. There's a surprising amount of fan of medicine. This episode two. Oh you're gonna have to point out some of that. Because i'm not sure i connected the dots there Okay so they need to go back to navarro for repair. So we're nevada a pat on the back here because we all guessed it. He wasn't going to corvus this episode. We're not gonna see soka this episode You know he got distracted again with another adventure of the week Mando is drinking some kind of like soup or something without taking off his mask which seems very difficult to me. I guess he won't even take off his mask in front of the child. Does this little. So i i guess my question here is is the rule bending beginning to start here i mean. I think we've talked before about. How wondering what he did when he had to eat when he was like in restaurants and things like that. And so it seems like at least in private his work around is lifting the helmet up slightly to to slurp that super bone broth Whatever it was so it seems like as long as he's not revealing any identifying marks that he can lift his helmet up enough that he can like either You know something or you know. Put a fork Up to his mouth and eat that way. I kind of love that. There's probably. I'm not sure if there's a writer on this. Obviously farrow is credited as the screener most of these episodes but i kind of feel like that one shot was there because someone asks forever like how does he eat right like i love it. They put that in there I think it could be to just him showing his increasing comfort with the child. Right like if you look at other scenes where he's out in public ordering food for the child. He's never taking any himself. He never even goes for the glass in season. One on sorgun when they bring him food he lets the child go out and play so he can take his mask off to eat So this i either. It's an acknowledgment that like well. I'm stuck with this kid and and it's my parents essentially its parent. I have to eat in front of it or it is him getting more lax with that. Especially after last episode seeing real mandalorian. 's doing doing things with their masks off. Maybe maybe that's having an influence on him. Yeah okay so we're back on navarro we see a bunch of aliens rating the former mandalorian layer and Brian these aliens look a little familiar. Yes so these are awkward. Finish these are the same species that pond babo was pond. Baba was the denizen of the star. Wars cantina in most eisley in a new hope And he was one of the two people that harassed luke and he's the one who got his arm cut off one of my favorite bits of trivia because of all the re-shoots from star wars their shots pond baba with like flipper hands but the close up that iconic close up of the arm. Getting cut off. Are the the cutoff arm. He has very pronounced harry fingers and so it. It spawned a whole lot of explanations as to why You know walrus men as they were referred to for a long time because that was how they sold his toy name. Right like boris man. And there's hammerhead and all those like. Yeah i love that. And so why. He had flippers in some shots but the insert shot had the the hands and all of these awkward finish. Have the big hairy hands and That's funny to me for whatever reason. So they're canonizing the hands. I guess instead. Well i mean. They've been canonized both ways right. And and so. I mean because there are very clearly shots of ponder baba with the flippers and the shot of his arm off on the floor has the hands. So maybe they were mittens. Who knows it's also interesting to note the variation in the appearance of their faces. Because i feel pond. Baba's face has always looked like he has to shave testicles hanging off of his face but if there's there's at least one in this gang here where like they appear to be bigger buck t. Even though they clearly aren't teeth but like their shape is a little it's a little more elongated and flat as opposed to being round and puffy. Yeah no definitely and we saw a little bit of that evolution in the prequels when they were appearing as senators in in phantom menace. And and attack of the clones. Okay so they're they almost killed. This creature is like a ferret like creature. Is that anything. We know brian. Not that. I could tell it did remind me sort of medically of the and i wonder if it'll end up in this way. But just the monkey and raiders of the lost ark. Where where it just started showing up and when it showed back up at the end of the episode. i'm like that things a spy Okay interesting okay. I could just be me being a silly though. It does have read is. Yeah that's always a bad. That's always a big tip. Well car dune arrives. And takes them all out because she's a bad ass and That's our only real defining character in my mind I i guess the armor as moved onto another planet or something. What do you guys think. Yeah i think that was a really careful. Bit of filmmaking actually As far as like we've been talking about over this season them telling stories with the design in the shots and seeing all of the mandalorian stuff sort of only ghosts of their I felt really implied that they had moved on and at the armor her the armor wasn't going to just leave all that stuff there but it could also very easily be taken as the armor was killed in that final fight where we saw them and whoever was left you know sold off all the best guard they could think they would find her body in this like the show her body or something. Well it seems like it'd been ransacked before they showed up. It looked like they were already. You know they were. This was their first moments setting up camp. Okay well car. Dune saves this for like creature gives them some food so we're now supposed to care about her right. I think there's a lot of ill will towards the actress that plays cardin like she's There's some did some controversy online race like in the last year. right and she's she's been tweeting some transphobic stuff and she's been also anti mask and she's been conspiracies. Yeah liking tweet from crazy. Right wing pundits on twitter. Yeah yeah in parlor I want to say. I didn't like her even in the first season before i knew any of that stuff But i do find it interesting. I go to a lot of targets and stuff like that. And i always look in the figure i'll in. I'm always curious to see like what figures are warming. The peg peg warmers and I think like the recent thing that i see it every single store i go to is cargo. No one wants the cartoon figures and there's usually like six of them is it the but the regular cartoon-figure or is it. The new credit collections cartoon figure critic collection. So yes i think that makes sense because the those that's new so those adjusted shelves so that might be why aaron kinda more but the fact that that that's left behind more often than the rest of the credit collection is still probably indicative. Because i have never seen the regular cartoon figure in stores Anywhere and could be. I don't know if it's because there was in short supply or it was. It was initially popular from the first season But yeah so i i. I don't know yeah okay. So we get the chapter titled the siege I don't think we need to really ask what this means. I think it's pretty self explanatory or do you have any like. Does it have any double meanings or anything well. I think the siege is very much a loaded term in insofar as the mandalorian and the siege of manned. Lor where but i i. I didn't really draw any significant connections to the siege of manda or It really just seems like it's on the surface with. There's a mandalorian siege in some stuff. So kara in grief carga meet mando in the child after they went on the planet we learned. That car is now a marshal in carga offers to fix his ship Let's hope that he does better than the mon calamari from the previous episode Navarro looks more like a bustling place. It looks like a good place to be where like we sound. We saw like last season like the the town square and stuff look very different The cantina has been turned into Is it the cantina cantina right. That's been turned into a school. I wasn't i didn't seem to me is the cantina. Cantina felt like a different building and that different building. I thought we'd seen sort of with still partially rubble because it had been decimated in the last. Oh yes last season. Maybe i'm wrong there. But they're basically have have created a school and there's a protocol droid ner teaching classroom of kids about the high bien way. What does the heidi and way. So the hardy and weighs one of the major hyperspace routes in the star wars galaxy. It's been around sort of like floating around in the canon for a long time There were the first mention of it in the new canon came in the clone wars. And it's been referenced quite a bit in all of the the books and the movies are the tv shows. And so it's it's not a surprise to get it when it's when it's You know a giant galactic history lesson but the heidi and is a huge major hyperspace route that connects One side of the galaxy with the other in really safe lanes of travel. There's a lot of other easter eggs in the protocol. Droids dialogue to that were a lot of fun. Yeah he's like teaching basic. I guess geography and politics of the galaxy here. Do you think it's more like this is just fun easter eggs or do you think some of this information is being set up to the audience for later. I don't think it's being set up for the audience. Because her voice like some of the information that would be the most interesting and useful for the audience for later her voices really Behind the the scene as it were and you almost don't even notice it unless you're watching the subtitles like her explaining the transfer of power in the galaxy from the old republic's capital of correspond to shandra. Ila is something that's important but but you can barely barely hear it. Yeah it almost seems to me like something that was written in the script that was going to be more audible and then like when they directed edited. It became like. oh this. is this more of a scene about mando. Leaving the child in classroom and You know baby. Yoda trying to convince the kid next to give him some of his food so listening to matt would talk about how he works. Sometimes listening to how the voice actors like the additional voice. Talent work i would one hundred percent not be surprised if carl weathers direction for the protocol droid was just to look like a teacher. And they'd worry about the dialogue later and then mack would as they were doing. All of their nerdy. Eighty are decided what that history lesson would be fair enough so baby. Yoda uses the force to steal the food from the child next him and it looks like the child just eating. Macaroni is macaroni. And i don't even look blue. Macaroni yeah like. I didn't know that macaranas were in the star wars galaxy. They've got space waffles. Why not space macaroni. Maybe they're setting this up for macaroni cart and galaxy's edge on these nights. I mean okay Mando by the way. This is another time. I know. I know it's kind of becoming comical at this point where we have like this thing. That is like one of the most wanted things in the galaxy and manages like because you know because the plot makes hard for him to carry iota The child everywhere like he just like leaves them with like strangers look wherever he goes to go off his. You know whatever he needs to go do but Whatever we we don't need the second guessed that in any way okay. So the mando is reunited with the blue alien that he captured in encased in carbonate from chapter one this the guy that was played by horatio sanz and he has a physical reaction of fear which is kinda cool also. So i'm curious about this. Maybe brian can shed some light on it but they keep calling me thrill and i i think. Isn't that the name of his race or species. Rather that's that's what we've been led to believe but he's also the first of the species that we've we've been introduced to so And since there aren't any like really official source books on an on star. Wars are on the mandalorian so far it can i. it could really easily be both. They could just be horribly racist and just keep referring to him by his beef yet. Because i looked this up because there's a line that That are i. Don't know if this. If i remember it has this character. But says if you've never seen a fledgling e throw evacuate their thorax. You're lucky guy. Trust me which would seem to imply that it is species. Yeah but and and who like so knowing the story the guys in the story group like i can very easily see pablo mats or even leland like spackling this by like. Oh they're calling him that because that's what they're they're like their entire species is collectivist and that's what they call themselves and each other and maybe he has some other name that nobody refers to but i mean it's the same thing as green cargo calling din jaren mando the whole time too. So maybe something like that. I mean i mean theoretically you could argue that he could be talking about himself in third person like it'd be like bride. You never want to see. a peterson. Ready to go to the bathroom right. That's that's yeah you're right guest. I mean yeah. You're you're right. You don't wanna see peterson to go to the bathroom In this is another example of a setup from first season of something that we thought would never come back. You know this character did you. Do you guys think we'd ever see him again. Not until. I saw the toys showing that he was coming back and the trailer he was in the trailer and i was like. Oh i guess horatio. sanz is back which is fine. He's funny. I think his timing and this is really interesting and i think they gave him one of the nerdy jokes which works i feel like i don't. We'll get to that later but i feel like i don't love the comic relief characters that they're introducing in the series. See i primarily the amy Amy's character from the first. Actually amy and the myth rawal. Although i'd like to eleven has kind of comedic and ways. Right i see. I don't know i. I like this because i feel like if the if anything you know with. The exception of characters like a baker things like that like star wars has always had mostly serious characters who are clearly either heroes or villains and so i think having characters like this they flesh out like just the the different personalities that are in the universe in a place like this like you're gonna have people who are like weasels who are scared of stuff and don't really wanna get into danger and are worried more about their lands better than they are about. You know helping out the people that he works for and that kind of thing so i think having these kinds of people especially when you're dealing in a place that has so much you know organized crime and things like that you it helps flesh out the you know the garage You know when you explain it that way. Brad it sounds good i think maybe for me. It's the execution of it. I don't know But okay we'll get into that later. thrall is that we're gonna call myth thrall. Yeah i guess again. That's what everybody else does. Yeah i just really don't want to see him. Evacuate its thorax. He had been doing accounting for grief cargo for many years and he made a run for it after stealing a bunch of credits Insinuated and now he you know he was captured by mando in return to him now. He's doing a lot to work off his debt. A lot of years many years Of debt and So repairs are gonna take a while at is explain to mando. Which by the way should we talk about that like. It's told to him that repairs. you're gonna take. Wha the razor crest is really crappy condition we we have seen it like. It's falling apart. It's being held by netting. That has been installed by monica maris and He's told that the repairs are gonna take a while to go off in this mission and you know by the end of the episode. He's like the ships fine. He leaves on his way. I think there's there's two things one i think. This is the inverse of the gag in season one where the was strip it in about forty seconds. Yeah i think the other thing is Pablo hidalgo sort of had the saying that he he. He said that you can't actually work out. How hyperspace subset base works in star wars because it works at the speed of the story so you can go as fast as slow as you need to in order to accommodate the story. And i'm thinking that they were looking at the repairs in the same way right like maybe that that that membes mechanic and that human mechanic just called in like people to come in and get it done as fast as possible so they could just get a quick lunch break there. You go and i want to say like i know people listening to this. Probably think i'm so hypercritical of the show. This isn't something that bothers me. But i thought it was worth bringing up help the same thing. That's why i put that in my review because it was like i could see people going like especially after they called out that it would take a while. Okay so they need. Mendez helped to take an old imperial base that is working at a skeleton crew It's on part of this planet. And this is actually. The base was the source of all those troopers though at the end of season. One If they can take out this base navarro could finally be free and possibly become a trade sector. So that's what it sounds very important to me The plan is to take out the reactor because that's what you always do in star wars and The myth thrall is unwilling to drive out to this base. He he really doesn't wanna grief keeps him in offering years office dat and mando see something above and jet packs up and Stormtrooper falses dab death. They enter the base. Going kind of fast forward through. I guess the takeaway here is it. Doesn't look like it has a skeleton crew that they were led to believe it. Was that grief convincing mando that had a skeleton crew or grief not no recovery. It's then he's on his genuine that there's more to it than that because when he explained the mission he c- he also seemed very convinced that it was it was basically they needed to destroy because otherwise the smugglers in the black marketeers would just pick it clean and then have a You know just a a really a field day with all of the stuff. They could sell on the black market and he wanted to cut that out as the magistrate of the system. So the myth. Ralph spots a mint traxler marauder which could fetch a lot on the black market if the basement going to be priced in the next Few minutes What is this so this is. This is an imperial troop transport which was the first toy that kenner produced. That wasn't in one of the movies and they're incredibly rare. And i had the used to be yet. Well they used to be they manufactured them again before Rebels because rebels sort of brought them back. I really feel like a like a. I feel like. I missed out on an opportunity. I had a chance to get one in. Its original box at like this estate sale. But i had to choose between that or a death star play. Set in de wit with the death star. But now i'm like you know that transports looking pretty good these days. They also brought it back as part of the vintage collection. Recently from the mandalorian. Yeah yeah so. It's getting a lot of play even though it sort of started as a joke but those original mint imperial troop transports. They go for a pretty penny and so him. Making a joke is a joke about the aftermarket of star wars collecting. So that's how i took it for sure that Okay so cartoon takes out an imperial officer. And they make their way to the heat. Shaft the find the reactor core The mithras complaining the whole time. Which i guess you guys find funny. I find a little bit annoying So like this whole scene. Like kind of seems reminiscent me of a new hope. You with like the yeah. Yeah i mean the design of the thing that he has to go climb out over on like it's just standard imperial like terrible user interface rate. Where it's just like we're gonna put you in mortal danger in order to do this really harmful thing to our base so You know we'll. We'll put the controls there to prevent sabotage. I'm not sure But yeah it's it's exactly like a new hope and the mando actually comes back to this spot later and has the stormtroopers sort of separating him from the from the over the chasm the same way luke laya did but instead of throwing the rope jumps on you know. He jumps away on his jet pack. Oh yeah for sure Okay so the myth all sets it to blow They make a run for it. They discover a tank with some kind of weird body in it and they realize that this isn't a military base but it is a laboratory. They they hook into a holographic transmission that was sent from dr pershing. Visit the doctor from season one Who's working for the hearner's the werner herzog character He is reporting on promising effects for an entire fortnight before the body rejected the blood. Waiting tech Castro's traffic who gave you sorry. I had the i've never a familiar Quote i highly doubt. We'll find a donor with higher. 'em count so he's talking about medical or. I don't think there's any other way to to to read that. So they're looking for me to koreans I think this is interesting because this clarifies a little bit of the endgame of mouth gideon rate so there had been some theories that the child by clone of of iota or something. Because you know that. Dr pershing had like the symbol on his costume about accounting symbol But this seems to indicate that the clone of the the the the endgame of them getting the child is to use his blood to harness the medical records yeah and then inject them into whatever was in that tube. And then i mean. I think one of the downsides of this episode that. They're not necessarily clear about what they're hinting at. Because there's so many different things in star wars. They could be like gideon trying to create a super soldier program. Is moth gideon working on the smoke program. Is this some extension of palpitation recreating as bodies. That produced his kid. That produce ray program There's all talk about all that. Nfl it's like it's like there's just so many different things that we can assume about this as a possibility that there's just it raises more questions than answers. I just think it's interesting that they don't want the child for the child. Dude i mean like they don't like see him as an asset in terms of like maybe we could use him against the new republic or whatever it seems clearly. It's just like the medical rains in his blood. Well i mean he is still a baby and so like i feel like they'd be waiting a long time for him to mature enough to the point where they could actually use him like an convert him to being you know an An asset of the empire. So that's probably just their best bet at this point well they could have cloned him because the cons like have a rapid aging or something did but So at least. I don't know there. There's a whole lot of stories about what happened when you clone djeddai and chlorine and timothy's on his heir to the empire books. The entire premise was that jurists Be off which is tim's pronunciation. I would never have any idea how to pronounce it any other way. But i've asked tim and that's how he pronounces it jurists. Cb off was a mad at a clone that was driven mad of djeddai and He had originally wanted to be a mad clone of hobe one in george lucas. Nixed that and then when they were working on attack of the clones you know somebody said well wider. Why don't you just clone. Why wouldn't you just want djeddai and lucas cryptic answer you know. And i'm paraphrasing. Here was just sort of like well. It doesn't work like that. So maybe they wouldn't be doing that for whatever reasons george lucas has built around the mythology of cloning and why that might be a bad idea. I mean that makes sense. So dr pershing recommends that they stop all experimentation because the volunteer will die if they proceed with the transfusion. I might be reading too much into the wording here but he does say volunteer like there's a particular volunteer not like volunteers will die. Like is there someone special that they might be four. That's what i wanna know. That's i mean that's part of that's part of all the information that adds up to like they could be talking about anybody like what if the volunteer is. One of those. Other palpitation clones. What if the volunteers is well. It's not giddying. But what if it's someone in gideon's purview. Somebody he has there on the ship. What if it's one of those soldiers that he has. What if it's tom from accounting brad. What do you think. Do you think i'm reading too much into him saying. There's a a volunteer volunteers. That was one thing that i was definitely very mysterious. And i i. I'm being just as curious about that. You know to. Because it's it's not clear. And so i i really don't know i think they're. They're leaving that to be mysterious okay. So they were only able to harvest a small amount of blood from the child and they would need a bigger sample to continue Learned that the transmission is a moth gideon in its days old so our heroes are now learning for the first time. The moth gideon survives. So you in your piece. brian For sasha dot com you theorized that maybe that day phony could be Maybe doing what he did. Rehabilitating the image of the prequels in the cone wars with with maybe like The thing about red skywalker. I think that could definitely be an unintended side effect. I think dave baloney. I don't know if dave baloney likes rise of skywalker or not. I wouldn't surprise me one way or the other. But i know he really loves the prequels but one thing about dave. The way i think is mind works. Is that with all that. Training from george lucas. He's able to like connect dots with things in really interesting ways and add context to stories after the fact that really makes them sing in ways that that we hadn't noticed or cared about before and so if this really is leading to snow in palpitation and those plans for rise of skywalker out. In the periphery of galaxy I think that it could have that effect. If that's really what the goal is here. I will say this. I think it. It doesn't really matter. What dave when he thinks of resin skywalker. Because what dave what matters with dave funny for me is the hugh of stars in i think Trying to elevate weak points in the saga is only beneficial for star. Wars right so Okay so Mendel jet packs back to the child because he's worried about him Grief dune in myth. All tried to escape the base before blows up the. There's a lot of that was a great moment from a new hope that Hearkens back to luke going back to try to save his aunt and uncle to which actually made me worry for the child for a minute. There like if giddins alive and he knows then okay. I'll go get the child right like it. Had that like if they trace the robots here they may have learned who they sold them to and that would lead them back home like it. It had that same energy to it and i really liked that. Yeah so cartoon gets in the traxler marauder and they use it to escape There's also speed bike chase sequence which i think is like one of the best shot like action sequences you know with grief meaning the turk guns in the purchase speeder bikes You know base round the vehicle crush into the rock wall. Kind of you know i. I don't want to keep on referencing indy. But it's kind of indie like and You know the last trooper begins to empower grenade which ends up being his own. Doing what did you guys think of this. Whole like speeder. Bike chase thing. Not fun if it's You know it's It's cool to see this vehicle using this way You know i. I love little details like this too because like It's cool seeing the targeting system that we've seen so many times in x wings entire fighters in the millennium falcon. You know it's it's the same technology that's spread across and so the the system inside the ship that uses. The station is very similar. Where you have to center the shift in the middle of so you can get the shot right on the money to take take typewriters and whatnot so It was also kind of amusing seeing it used on people when he completely blows apart that scout trooper but You know like you said it. It is very indiana jones. Feel to it. Especially since it's you know set in the middle of these these big cavernous. It's got this. I mean it definitely again goes back to a new hope to write like the escape from the death star with the four tie fighters It's one thing when it's the millennium falcon and you believe the millennium falcon can deal with those. But when it's this little transport you're like at they're screwed and so it it. It was really interesting when you shrink. The escape craft of the heroes. How those same four tie fighters can appear a lot more menacing. Can i take the second to sidetrack for like a quick moment Because i love speeder bikes. I love the scout troopers. And i want hasbro to create a a y. You know a life size replica of black series helmet of the scout trooper helmets like yesterday. I learned last night. That targets coming out with this helmet for captain cardinal. Is that the name of the character. He's from mike expire and fatima. I think it's only appeared in the bucks right. Yeah he's only appeared. He appeared in fatima and black fire. The novel and Yeah Well i think part of the reason they keep doing that is that they can just keep repainting. The same first order moltes that they already have read but but they've never released the first order helmet so to your point that this is probably a predecessor of them. They're probably going to release a white version of it as a strategy in this didn't they. I thought they know there was. There was one by a novus. But i don't think they ever. They released a original trilogy. Stormtrooper helmet but not a first order for for I could be wrong. But i'm pretty sure for For the force awakens they release kylo and po which are now sold out now sell for way more on. And you're right. They never made a black series stormtrooper home and that's very surprising. I dunno just surprises me. Like you know it's cool that a character from the books is getting this treatment. But i kind of want like i kind of smell. What's gonna happen here. And i smelled but like you know in a few months. I'm gonna see this on the the clearance end cap of in my target. You know selling for half the price because no kids. New who captain cardinal was like has real. Make me a scout trooper helmet like. They're now in mando. They're like playing a big pardon. Mando season one window to Make me a scotch. And it's funny to scout troopers are so recognizable that like. I have no idea how to quantify like how much star wars knowledge my five year. old has She doesn't pay that. Close attention to it as far as i can tell but we were watching this episode this morning and she looked at me as though i this would be the most relevant ori like new information i've ever had and she goes. You know what those are called. Those are scout troopers and for them to imprinted imprinted. They are so i loved. I really loved the moment where they're skiing down. It felt like a james bond movie like it was so cool. It was very cool. Yeah so i hope. One day. I just i want star wars stuff to sell in. Just see like this being another like you know Beg i think that like has ended up taking the bad. Like lessons or star. Wars toys aren't selling as much as they used to. When like you know the movies were coming out. It's like no. You created up helmet for a character that no one knows about. I mean well. Don't want to sound like subaru. Because i know there's fans of those novels but like you gotta admit that a lot less people read the novels and watch the movies or play the video games nerve watched. I wonder if there's a chance that maybe this was something that was actually intended to be a park exclusive. Could it doesn't have the galaxy I wonder if they're just doing what they can to sell it since you know one of the two galaxy locations isn't open so maybe this is their way to like maybe make some money off of what they have that. They're not going to sell the parks anytime soon. I definitely got that impression that like they were making money hand over fist. Selling that kind of stuff in the parks and now that even the one that is open is at such a diminished capacity that target doing galaxy's edge exclusives. Was you know the licensees needing to still set sell that stuff through. I'll say this them even annoyed. I'm taking us on even further sidetrack. I'm sorry but i'm even annoyed by hasbro in the products that they've created for galaxy such because they created a you know an exclusive captain cardinal Figure which i get. I get it. It's a repaint But in the figure that they created for earthers two other figures they created a honda which eventually gets sold and target and they created a wrecks and then they also created a mountain trooper. So there's this captain cardinal figure and there's a mountain trooper being sold in galaxy said that no one has ever seen before in galaxy's edge yet they don't make a vibe roddy figure they don't make a doc on dr figure they don't make a captain or lieutenant back figure out. No i'm just. I hope that we don't forget it. There's also a commander pyre figure which is another storm repaint the gold one. That also has the disney the galaxy's edge sticker slapped on okay. I'm sorry guys. I know we. It took us way off track air. We'll get back with episode. Tatra fighters are in pursuit. Grief does his best to take them out as Do of maneuvering and grief Finally takes one of them out in crashes it almost right on top of the ship The razor crest comes to the rescue takes the other ties at a child. Who is now still eating mac macaroni. And he's giggling taking them out hands like he's on a coaster. I feel like every episode like they're just printing money to make new fund go pops right and also in infinite memes. Yeah yes The okay so that show and then there's also we need the funk co pop where the child has barf out in blue vomit. He does get all over his robe middle wipes it off but it doesn't seem to come out and he's gonna watch or something It's an indication that the child's gonna get a new outfit which is going to lead to more toy sales. Also we'll see in a bath as well and so then they'll make a baby. Yoda and a bafta oregon say bryan. We'll also get an action figure with the stain on it Yeah yeah you're right okay. So manner takes off. His ship apparently been fixed in that amount of time. They wake left. Let's kaffa day Or paulsen hang lee is back as captain carson teva One of the dickhead new republic x wing speech cops always operating down and they. They weren't space cops. He's walking around a little pad of paper and like a big issue too as office officer. Yeah he's asking about the razor. His involvement in the happenings in grief denies that it was there. Since simone is way What role do we think. The new republic will have an upcoming episode. I was this was really interesting to me. Because this kind of further cemented the fact that almost republicans kind of not doing a great job with with what they're doing As far as like helping some of these places that need to end. Maybe it's just because there's a transfer of power between the empire and the rebel alliance taking over and with the new republican trying to clean up the mess of the empire which has various strong echoes of the things. That are happening right now. But i think it's interesting to note that like what grief does with navarro is. He's he builds this. You know they have school and they like to boost up the economy and things like that making things better and there is clearly this parallel of like these places that were left behind after they were taken over in the empire was there and they need infrastructure. You know you need to have those things built and it's it's things that You know america has infamously not done when they've taken out a dictator like saddam hussein or something like that and say they're going to help you know a certain nation but then don't stick around long enough to build infrastructure and help them you get to a place where they need to be to help their people and so there's a comment that grief makes here where he's talk. He's you know Takes a jab saying you know. Maybe you'll find yourself out here. You know again because the they don't ever come out that way unless something like this happens. And so i thought that was a really interesting jab at the the new republic. I got the impression though. Like i got two distinct impressions from different sort of showers of film in history. But i think part like to your point. Palpitation did have that sort of nero decree with operations cinder where he was literally burning down as much as he could at the point where he was presumed dead so that yeah exactly. The new republic would have to put out so many fires that they could never be successful as they would have been. Had there been a peaceful transfer of power which is startlingly relevant but also I really love how we're seeing marshal's like with those specific titles in these frontier towns because it really feels like the old west right win the strong central centralized american government. Was you know completely on the east coast. You know we. We call things the wild west at for a reason because it was just it was absurd out there and there was a different sort of law and a different sort of Jurisdiction for what the government was. And i really liked that. They're taking those cues for the new republic from that era of history and of film For the new republican these far-flung areas. I also like what this is saying about the larger galaxy. Like we always assume as kids when we watch. Return the jeddah and they win the battle of galvin. The arena that Wait of mixed up. Was the battle Return a chinar. I've gotten no sleep better indoor A new when they came out. I was like oh battle of indoor happened. That like you know everything is going to be happy in this galaxy. And obviously we've seen that that's not the case because they're still remnants of the empire that needs to be defeated but also like you know we learned from you know. The ancillary material of force awakens that you know General leia like about the. I thought that they like you know we're gonna this big threat like the new republic was like not willing to take action and she had the create this whole resistance to you know to do something about it so so it's like i. It's funny because you always think that there's a good guy like everything would be imperfect but it turns out everybody every political organization has its own problems. Yeah okay. So we see car dune Feeding the creature and the space cop tries to recruit her He believes that aren't isolated. Incidents here in something more is going on She's not interested in in helping him or telling him And he asked her older on heritage because he served there and says Did you lose anybody. What sort of rube does this like. Hey i know you're planet's destroyed but did you lose anyone in told me he was like i worked at the world trade center r biden. Go there nine. Eleven in my next question is like brian. Did you lose any friends or coworkers. Like who asked the question. Yeah no i well. Captain carson taybeh. Maybe that's just a tone-deaf nature of the police character caricature they've become I guess now that like we're delving like it is a good moment here but like i still don't want to care about her. I don't know why i do. You guys care. I mean i. I'm having a hard time. Separating the character from the from gina. Carano it at this point and so i'm carrying less and less because i every time i see her. I just think this is what we have to deal with but i. I don't know it's like she. She is a cool character but she she's mostly just cool and this helps a little bit. What is the the thing that he leaves behind that like. It looks like a badge. Has the rebel lion symbol on. What does it symbolize. So i did some research on it and there wasn't anything the the The alliance's medal of bravery was the one that we've seen in a new hope So we recognize that. The best thing i could come up with a real world. Analog is sort of a service medal that says that he served at alder on and so. This was one of those things that i was complaining about. A little bit about. Weather's is direction is that there's a few things that could have hit a lot harder. But they were a little muddy and knowing what that metal meant could have been one. And i really think it was his service medal for having served at alder on that he gives to her as at least a sign of acknowledgment or respect or that he just asked really insensitive question. I see i. I mean i guess that kind of makes sense but i feel like that's also the equivalent of like you know a a military soldier giving like their purple heart to somebody they just happened to learn you. Know had a relative who died in world war two. You know. I think like that means a lot to that person and so why would you give it to a complete stranger just because you acid insensitive question you know about well. I wonder if it's an insane. Well i wonder if his thing was just like it was it wasn't that he asked insensitive question. It was that he feels sorry for her loss and obviously she's not having a good time and maybe he's trying to pull her make her feel like she's welcome in in a way the her attitude is there anything. I wish this was better. Is there any. Is there any chance that it's just a bad representative of like we you know. We are the new republic. Unlike the they've adopted the lion symbol. And so just in case. You wanna be aerospace complex us. It had a little it had on the bottom of it the same way you see on like the sorts of that honor service in like military dress. Uniforms like the little color coding at the bottom. Because that's what it made me. Think of that service record. The problem is is that we can debate about all day all day about what we think. It is Because it wasn't clear. Yeah i'll say this. My first thought here was knowing. John farrow and he wrote this episode That he That i'm not sure if you know this If you work with jon favreau or you visit a set of his movie or you interview him. He gets like these challenge coins. He's obsessed with challenge coins in. He gives them out to anybody that either works for him. Or you know interviews him or whatever and he makes a new challenge coin for each production. He's working on and it's something that's meaningful to him if you talk to him like a whole story on it and i was wondering if maybe of something like that because challenge coins Their hugh come from like the militate. They're huge in the five hundred. I to am the rebel legion The fan costuming organizations and they're huge part of the culture of star wars fandom An and in the military so yeah. It could be a simple as that like. he's handing her the. Hey remember i served at alder on challenge coin and it should be said like people are probably wondering like why is that important or something but like you only get a certain amount of challenge coins when you're like you know in a fire department or you're in this like you know squad of troopers or whatever in giving one out like a kind of meaningful thing That said i'm not sure that that's what it is. I was also wondering maybe this is an actual badge that makes her a a real marshall on navarro. I mean it gives her some kind of real authority. Who many damn possibilities. that are all valid. Yeah i'm i think she she also does. She has some kind of like indicator that she's a marshall already from from grief doesn't she epochs way. I didn't even see that. Okay so An alien informs the imperial general that a device has been planted as requested and she says that he will be well rewarded in this new era. This isn't alien. We've seen earlier in the episode. He's one of the two people that grief told the to take care of the ship. And i didn't even notice that for a this this creature. This species is for mim ban which we saw first onscreen in solo star. Wars story and Recently installed squadrons. The leader of the squadron of rebel pilots is a member knees pilot. I i thought an interesting too because grief has a line when he tells the mechanics take care of the ship that is it's not quite like verbatim but it's reminiscent of orlando's line telling han is like my people will take care of it essentially and then it's but it's not grief that has you know betrayed his friends this time it's one of his mechanics who has put a tracking device on his ship. will note. There's no way it wouldn't make any sense at this point Okay so she informs gideon that a tracking began has been installed on the razor. Crass gideon is still invested in the asset. He says they quote will be ready. we pull out to reveal an army of these big black. I guess stormtrooper like things. They look bigger than nippy. A like crosses between death troopers tie fighter pilots. I felt in this moment. That i was like some kind of like thing that i should know like the i wasn't getting the reference but i'm after reading online. It doesn't seem like anybody clearly knows what this is just a like. Oh no there's a big his a big army of something yeah. It was like well. He's he's surely either that or he just really likes shiny tie pilot armor to be displayed properly on his star destroyer again. This is one of those little details where it's just it's a little money so it doesn't have that impact if they would have shown us and again i'm not interested in. I'm not saying that he should have spoon fed us but just giving us some view of of what we might be looking at her. Some context of what that might be later. I was waiting for like a full like a head on shot of like just clearly see what it is after you see the long line of them but then it didn't happen. There are some websites that there that are saying that these are dark tree. I i was actually just gonna say. I wonder if this is the legitimate opportunity to bring in dr troopers from the expanded universe. Yeah they were in the video game star wars dark forces which is now non configure. Okay they they. They're now considered non canon however they did appear in the mobile game star wars commander which is for some reasons cannon so maybe their candidate again According to kapadia dirk troopers are a kind of advanced shock trooper. Droid that the droids were designed under emperor Patine to be the next generation of stormtroopers however sabotaged manufacturing facilities forcing positive. Shut down production because yeah so Do you think these are. I mean that might make sense because it makes sense. Why all these like armor or like there. If if they're droids it makes sense why they're all like being charged or i'll say go ahead no go ahead. I also kind of got the distinct impression that this was something that was also tied directly to a lab rate. This was something that was tied directly to what it was they were hiding and why he wanted the asset. So badly yeah. That's what i was thinking too. That i think that's like this may be like a new breed of super soldier. I wonder if maybe they're trying to create four sensitive like four sensitive army. Yeah one of my friends. Message me with that. And i i did not get from. This wasn't Am i wrong. Brian in saying that george lucas originally an idea like stormtroopers ahead like force powers or imagine thinking of rav macoris concept painting with the that they had. That's probably what it is those early those early paintings. But i mean those early drafts stars. Were all over the place too. But i wouldn't if they were going back to the well of ralph mkhori on this. I think those those troopers would have been white though. Yeah okay well. We're going to find out a. I did see you think on inverse. Someone pointed out that the lab technician in the scene is wearing a coat with the insignia for the department of military research Which was first mentioned in the nineteen eighty nine star wars roleplaying game. So there you go Okay let's get into spec you. Do you have any final thoughts on this episode. I think it's it's adding up a lot of threads. Like i really really think. Although we're getting more of a movie of the week style for the season i really think it's. It's threatening a lot of really interesting ideas together so that we're going to get a really impactful last half of the season. This is our halfway point and it's built a lot. It's built a really solid foundation of how things can go wrong or intersect or come together and crash into opposition and. I think that this season is done that a lot. Better than last season did okay. Let's get into speculation We're going to see it so can next up serrated. It's ridden by funny. I think it's directed by different like we're gonna get her. Finally right. I i think so. I don't i really. Don't think dave baloney would have stepped in and this is what we saw last week to. Where like if we think we can all pat ourselves on the back for that right. We were never going to see a soco introduced in the carl weathers episode. It was going to be dave baloney and if she's around it's going to be next week or and and i could be wrong here but just in case it turns out to be real. I could be really seem really smart. A soak is not on the show and they cast they cast her and those things leak the same way they did. A mother with alfred hitchcock. And we're all thinking we're going to see mother. Is this villain or a soka here. Is this thing but a so gone. She's on her mission and it was a dead end and he's going to be trapped there with off gideon on his tail. I don't think you're on this one. Brian but i am either. But it's a possibility but it is interesting. Does bring something new to the dynamic. We knew that he was gonna go to the planet to find soka but now after this episode we know that unknowingly mando is bringing the imperials right to her. Right like he now has a tracking beacon. Not only are they after the child but maybe now that they see him. Meet up with a second. Maybe she's going to become another Important imperial targets. She's gonna chlorine in her blood. My guess is the meeting that they have the first meeting here is going to be. It's gonna be short short left. There's gonna be some stormtroopers that show up. Maybe those dark troopers or whatever. Brad what are you gonna happen. I yeah we talked about last week too about how assocham probably has some insight or how would have some concern about any cloning technology being brought back from from the prequel era. And so i feel like that's that will definitely have Some weight on her shoulders whether or not if she's just chilling somewhere you know or i guess depends on what a soak it is up to when he when mando finds her And whether or not you know there's this you know rejection of coming back to being caught up in all of this again or whatnot. But i i think it's it's interesting because If you go back and watch all the trailers we haven't seen any more footage from the episodes coming in the rest of this season we have exhausted. All of the footage that was shown footage that has been shown trailers has been played in these first four episodes so from here on out. We're completely in the dark with as far as anything to expect okay. I only have one last question that comes from this episode is. Why didn't if they were able to get that close to the child in this episode. Why didn't they just take the child on navarro. I don't think they realized like what happened was probably they said. Hey look out for this ship and if you see it. Install a tracking device and let us know. I don't think that they knew that the child was there until he reported to them right because she asks at the end like was the asset with him. And and that's when the member knees mechanic confirms that right so they don't even realize they don't even realize the child is until after the child is gone. Yeah is there any other speculation on what could be coming for us next episode or the second half of the season i think is there tying those threads together i right i think that I actually think that captain carson taybeh is going to play a bigger role in this. If the imperial show up at corvus and as there. She's probably got some connection to people in the new republic. And you know he's he's talking about. Hey something big is brewing out here and people don't necessarily know it. We might not get it this episode. But i do think this season is going to result in a space battle. I think it's gonna end up at a space battle where the new republic. And what's left of the imperial forces and the razor crest and asuka and whatever she's flying whether it's in the razor crest or whatever going to end up in a big conflict in space Because i think that they're threatening all of those things. Together i mean. I think that sounds right. So i think i think you might have that dead on. Okay that brings us to the end of today's slash. Someday you can find more alva workers less. I'm gonna come out link. Brian's review of this episode In the show notes if you want to see the air you wanna read that This podcast published on apple. Google overcast spotify. 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Stats & Eggs, 1/6: John Lynch is one step closer to immortality

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05:11 min | 9 months ago

Stats & Eggs, 1/6: John Lynch is one step closer to immortality

"Off donald what. Can i get you today. High shall have the quarter pounder with cheese extra muster nikola have a ten piece chicken mcnuggets into sites ranch please. The we've done this before meal. Get it at mcdonald's when he get to of your face for two six bucks limited time. Only prices and participation may vary single item at regular price rob's guerrero today is wednesday january six twenty twenty. One here's what's happening with your san francisco forty niners. There wasn't very much forty niners news yesterday other than the chargers becoming the fourth team to request an interview with defensive coordinator robert sala so i wanted to play a little more sound for you from earlier this week. There were so many good things to react to. And i couldn't squeeze it all in yesterday. So let's look beyond the quarterback. The niners have a ton of decisions to make this off season. And one of those is going to be about fullback. Kyle use check who got a little emotional when thinking about not being back with the team next year. Not totally. Sure what's ahead for me. I don't want it to be a sense of finality honestly i. It's just been a lot of emotions you know the past weeks and even you just ask in that. Zara gavin choked up. but just a lot that Will come into play here. And kyle. And i continue to have discussions. And he's made it very clear. Kyle john everybody that they want me here And i wanna be ear so you know. We're we're going to work towards that but you know free agency is a is a tricky thing and you know with the cap number being lowered so much. That's that's gonna come into play so you know it's just kind of a wait and see and let some pieces fall in place a common theme you'll notice today is how many guys say they want to stick around and be a part of this team. How many organizations that have lost at least ten games in three of the last four years have guys about not being on them next season. That is a testament to kyle shanahan and the culture. He's built another tough question will be what to do. With cornerback jason variet- variet- was among the best corners in the league this year but it was really the first time since twenty fifteen and he's managed to stay healthy for an extended period of time and when he spoke on monday he was asked about whether or not he wants to be back in san francisco. Come in here and seeing you know how they turn things around from me. Physically mentally It's kinda hard to you. Know not wanna come back. It's kind of hard not to want to see if we could work things out. Just because like i said it's a classic organization They've they've done a hell of a job with me throughout my time last year and throughout this year and so now that i'm healthy and i'm a level my body is you know it's definitely be a tough decision for sure. I would love to have him back. But how can the team afford to invest in someone. They're just so unsure about we just had a year where we couldn't count on guys to get on the field. Can you really put big bucks behind jason garrett and if you're jason brett can you take less money to stay in san francisco knowing this could be maybe the last contract you ever get in the nfl. Even if both sides want to get a deal done. I'm not sure it's going to happen. Because the forty niners can invest big dollars variet- and can't afford to take a team friendly deal at this point in his career. We always have something for you. Read something to watch and something. You might have missed something to read on this wednesday. Speaking of that forty nine or secondary there are nine players that could become free agents. This offseason if you'd like to get an idea of which of those players could leave in which could stay other than richard. Sherman is re jazz hangs article on niners nation dot com. Oh and he also threw in a look at the draft's top corners and safeties. For you to remember you can always check out patient dot com for the latest news and forty niners update something. I imagine you'll be doing frequently this off. Season something to watch. Congratulations or once again. In order for forty niners general manager. John lynch who was named one of the fifteen finalists for the pro football hall of fame. This is the eighth straight. Year lynch has gotten to this point in the process. The list will be voted on later this month and a maximum of five players will be chosen to make up the two thousand twenty one class of the pro football hall of fame. Unfortunately former forty niners patrick willis and bryan young did not make the cut something. You may have missed. The browns finally made the playoffs after eighteen years. But it may be a short-stay head coach. Kevin stefanski two additional members of the coaching staff and two players have tested positive for covid nineteen and will not be available for the afc wildcard game against the steelers sunday night. That is of course assuming. The game remains as scheduled according to nfl rules. Anyone testing positive must sit out at least ten days. Special teams coordinator might prefer will serve as the acting head coach and offensive coordinator. Alex van pelt is expected to call the offensive plays that's it for today's stats and eggs. Please rate review and subscribe to the niners nation. Podcast network for this show and all are great. Show stay tune later today. For the shannon plan with kyle posing on vorapin. I have a feeling we might get into a little bit of the forty niners twitter civil war that took place earlier this week by the way you can also tweet us at an podcast on twitter. I'm rob stats guerrero. We'll talk tomorrow.

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Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Episode 5 "The Gunslinger"

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38:19 min | 1 year ago

Spoiler Discussion: The Mandalorian Episode 5 "The Gunslinger"

"Hello everyone and welcome. Sasha daily for Friday December six two thousand nineteen on today's episode. We're in of spoiler. Filled discussion of the mandatory in episode episode five entitled the Gunslinger Does Slash Editor in chief. Peter Surata joining me in today's podcast slash weekend editor rat omen. Hey that's me okay. Let's let's get into it Bryan young couldn't join us today. I just spent a couple of days with him at Walt Disney world where I got to ride the new rise of the resistance ride at Galaxy's edge. I'll put a link in the show notes. If you want to see video of that it is incredible. The whole whole experience of it is somewhat between twenty and thirty minutes from like the pre show experiences to the right itself in the right is like the most highly elite technological. It is mind blowing so if you want to see some of that Go to the video. I'll link it in the show notes But let's let's talk talk about the mental worrying. Let's talk about mandatory in chapter five in this title entitled Gunslinger. This is directed by deflecting who directed the untitled pilot episode of the series by the way. Isn't that weird that the first episode didn't get a chapter title. I mean sure or do we think the chapter title. That's just the mental oriented. Yeah 'cause that's that's really what. It is interesting tradition that character. Yeah Okay so I you know I. I mentioned last week. I did a poll of what people thought was the best or the best episode assode. They're the worst episode and The one that people largely my twitter feed which is now totally scientific in accurate in every way Thought was the worst episode. Was the pilot episode directed by Dave Funny Even though I thought episode for was much much worse it. I think we talked to you last week. I think you said four was worse than the pilot. Yeah probably yeah. This is my least favorite episode. Yeah yeah so you know day phony coming back you know. I'm a huge fan of him from Star Wars rebels. You troubles as well right. Yes but I didn't stick with it very long because I didn't like it because I fell behind on it and just never had the time to get jobs but I but from what I saw I I did enjoy it. Yeah floaty is incredible incredible. You know he's a master of animation. He is You know he really feels like the next generation of George Lucas. Like you really has that mythology built into into him and I've been a fan of his work for some time and I've been so excited for him to get into live action. I I will say that you know that first episode felt like the a direct debut of someone who had never directed live action but it was pretty decent considering that that listen structural they view This episode I. I think he's a little bit better Although it seems like it's getting quite a divisive response across interweb so Brad what what did you think of this upset. I thought it was okay. I I wasn't in love with it. I kind of felt like it was doing a little too much of leaning into giving fans like home remember Tattoo. Lean member number. Moss is Louie Cantina. Here's here's some lines. You might remember from Star Wars too so it was. It was like every minute there were something they're like. Oh did you remember the do backs. Remember the Tuscan Raiders. Oh he has a higher ground. It was like a member berries episode of of the man to laureate which is so weird because Dave felonious totally not that kind of person or at least like in his previous his work. It's totally the opposite of what I expect from day phony. Yeah I don't know but it's I I think The the story was relatively interesting trusting even if it didn't really offer anything new. We've seen the the premise of bounty hunter joining forces with another only to be betrayed and And then the another another bounty coming in and creating problems and all that kind of thing so there wasn't anything new here but you know the fact that it is star wars still made it appealing and I think this might be the episode where we get the the most dialogue from the Mandal Laurean. Oh I didn't even think about that. Yeah because because he talks a lot in this episode yeah I would agree. There's probably too much fan. Service earned maybe just the bad kind of fan service like I don't think fan services necessarily bad blake. Some of this is bad I would say and I'm wondering I think we're GONNA probably disagree here because I know we've had disagreements on the topic in the past Brad but I think some of the the acting in this episode with I don't date phony is constantly castings of comedic comedic actors in his his work. Like you know in the first episode had a bunch of a couple comedy actors and I feel like it's just out of the tone of stars stars I mean there are comedic performances in Star Wars for sure I don't think Amy Sedaris is bad in this episode as well all as the you know the the port port guide. How are the port supervisor? Everyone a call it i. I think she is good. She's not being goofy necessarily If anything I was actually more disappointed and frustrated by the performance by Jake caravel. Who is bobby cannibals son He? He felt very wooden inexperienced like an experience so well yeah. But it's he's wanting to be inexperienced bounty hunters experience as an actor show Like he felt like he was reading his lines for the first time while they were shooting. So so yeah and I I liked the Bryant. He was that's how they keep this whole thing secret. Is they only hand. The script pages the actor right right before they're gonna read them. That's how episode five is going to attach Wayne and we. We had no idea about that. That's because that secrecy and honestly this part was that was more frustrating to me than the other fans service because the character. It's itself of this rookie. Bounty Hunter felt like something that came out of Fan Fan. Fiction likes like some some fan thought up all man. It'd be so cool. If I was a bounty hunter I teamed up with Amanda Lorraine and train them and and like I get to become a legend. You know we can talk a little bit more about that Later on while we go through episode I will say you know. Last week's episode was inspired. Heavily by seven to this week's episode is inspired a bit by The searchers and Bryan young who writes a weekly recap and review on slash on dot com talks. A bit about that in his piece. Link that in the show notes so you can read that there But yeah okay. Let's jump it till it's let's discuss This episode or actually before we discuss episode. I also agree with you that this episode like not much happens. And you know let's recap at the end this episode like what we learned where you know what progress but okay so this episode begins. The action is hot. The razor crest is being shot at There I guess for Zoom that the Guy Chasing the mini worrying is another bounty hunter. That is after baby yoga. Do you think that was my impression. Yeah he says I could bring you in warmer. I could bring you in cold in Midler in response. That's my line. So has the mental lauren become so infamous his like lines or being quoted elsewhere around the galaxy. I mean it would seem like his reputation precedes him in and the guy just trying to be cool by taking him in that way yeah so he stopped short and kills the attacker. I you you know. I guess we're not going to find anything out about this new bounty hunter because he's dead. I if Brian was here on asking what kind of shift he was fighting I couldn't recognize it but I'm sure you you have no idea what ship this was. No it seemed like it had like the shape the basic shape of an x wing with its s foils disclosed Or maybe even like a ninety five head-hunter yeah The character I apparently is named riot mar and he's played by a Rio. Hack Vert art but again. We'll never see him again. Actually yeah you know what that is not true. They'll probably be a comic book or a novel somewhere. They'll give the backstory of that guy so but we'll probably never see him again in this this series so Then we get the chapter name here. Chapter five is called the gunslinger and that brings us to the question that we ask every week. Who is the gunslinger? Is it the Middle Orien- is it touro. Is it Ming. Or is it the Guy Guy that we're gonNA see at the very end of this episode or is it all of them. I would say that it's probably all except the guy at the end since we don't really see if the end is a gunslinger so like those like boots jingle. What are those called L.? Now Christmas boots at Christmas boots. I'm sure that's what they're called Do Not right in now. We don't need to know Okay so here's the big shocker episode and We hear that most Eisley Tower saying he's cleared the land and we're like what So you know. Most Eisley is the home of Anakin Skywalker job with a high oiseaux so Beauvois The Sarawak Pet Oh in hiding place luke skywalker. Obi Wan Kanobi. It's it is the most legendary planet in all of the Star Wars mythology right. Yeah I mean that's that's actually where we're Hannigan Lou came from so that's where this whole thing started so the question is why tattooing. Why does this for episode bring him to attach wing? I feel like I they do you think. Is there enough story reason for him to be here or do you think it's like you know Dave Laney being like if I'm going to direct an episode of live action in Star Wars. I WanNa like film something on the side of the Cantina because I feel like I was going to Trek Star Wars. I'd be I'd be like you know. Maybe maybe he thinks he can get help there because it is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. So if he's looking for a place to find help or even hide out you know. Oh It's always interesting to me though. That like a place like Moss Eisley as where some people go to hide. But that's also where like the worst people are you would think would cause the most trouble for you so i. I've never early understood why it's considered to be his even for people like that. Yeah it doesn't make much sense As I said I don't hate fan service when it's done right and I think the problem here is that we randomly go end up at some planet that is you know you know the most iconic planet in Star Wars history and we're seeing all the creatures church and all the things in the you know the locations in it feel so coincidental and not enough unexpected. It's it's not like nick. It's like you said like if he was going to most is Lee because he needed to you know that that was a hive of scum and villainy and he needed to like you know you know get get that mission that I like. He's assigned to you. Know He needs to get some money for emission like that would make sense but like he just randomly winds there. I mean I I don't necessarily know that it it. I mean if it's random as opposed to like it being nearby and he knows he can get help there and I just feel something was a little off there there but okay. Let's move on from there. He Wins at a pad which looks like the same pad that the money Falcon was There but the it's thirty five this time instead of ninety four The you know the open air style that Han Solo parked Millennium Falcon in new. Hope So you know this is the first of many Nods to fan service that we're GONNA get in this episode the next which are some pit droids from the prequels that come out and The minority like yells that he doesn't want you know the droids working on his ship We get it. He doesn't like droids. I'm kind of. I'm kind of surprised that we didn't get the middleware in having to tell someone they didn't take off his mask and his episode right. Okay The central mechanic who is named pelly motto is played by. Amy Sedaris Paris. Where where would we know her from So she was on comedy central series. A while back called strangers with candy She's she's a pretty well known Comedian extremely funny and just one of those people who is constantly popping up in small character roles You you also probably see her around this time of year. Because she plays the secretary of James Cons Book Publishing Company any in Elf. Oh Yeah And you know like I mentioned before. Funny cast these comedic actors in Star Wars Parts. Like Horatio Xio. Horatio Sanz Horatio Sanz and Brian. Posadas was first episode. Yeah her character and performance. Warminster seems to me. You know I cut it like an I don't like it. I'll say this like the the tone of it seems a little to communicate to me but her look feels like something thing I would see like in the seventies or eighties movie or TV. Show like it looks like. She looks like Ripley Aliens. Yeah it almost looks like something like the e you walk movies and I. I'm not sure if that's an insult or a compliment. Yeah it'll be the field like a video game character in in a way but yeah I. It wasn't something that I dislike She tells him it's ships a massin. He offered her five hundred imperial credits to fix the ship as a down payment while he goes to look for some more money She she calls Awesome Awas Brat because you know we need more references and he sets out the fines more money and where is he gonNA find some more money in an under the table gig in most Eisley of course the most Eisley Cantina but before that we see the mandatory in walking through the main center most Eisley which is a really cool. It's cool to see this place. This famous place in Star Wars Canon The last time we saw it on screen in the live action films was as you know seven years prior And it looks like it hasn't changed that much on the outside. Although we do see that like he walk past like these stormtrooper helmets that are impaled which is a shot? They've shown in the trailer and it's a particularly cool piece of imagery in funny. He's he's really good at that kind of thing what do you think what do you think the shot is supposed to be telling us. It's just a tiny bit of world building. Yeah just continued the idea that the the empire doesn't have a stronghold on these kinds of places they used to you when stormtroopers were seen walking around to win back in Star Wars. A new hope you know. They were enforcers forces. They were like you know police and obviously they really don't have any strength there anymore. Yeah who knows one of those helmets could be like one of those. There's stormtroopers that was looking for the droits outside the Cantina last time and then a new hope for you and say are we going to say. Did you feel like the shot. When he walked into Mosley which which clearly echoes the shot of them? into Cantina rather a that of the walking towards the CANTINA. I felt like I think it was and I feel like you could tell that maybe be. That was one of those shots where they used that stagecraft technology for because I sincerely doubt they rebuilt that entire set. Oh I don't think they built any of this but Yeah Yeah I don't know I again. I WanNa see I wanna see it behind the scenes of that's wants this whole you know season hits there. I wish they would do some kind of demonstration and an invite press to light walk into a room where they've done it and show how it works. Yeah I mean season to a shooting now which we could go to that. They're being so secretive about that. I doubt that's going to happen. Okay so what happens that the mechanic almost shoots bb Iota The music in this episode feels like another. I will say I I. I like the music from this composer especially in in the series. He's but each episode feels like completely. Its own thing like the music in this episode. Almost sounds like it's from like an eighties movie Yeah there were. There was a couple couple times where I felt like the entire early. Fit with the the style of the show. Like Deputy it felt like he veered a a lot more into fanfare style. Stuff instead of the more tribal sounds we. We've been hearing and I'm sure that's intentional But I did feel a little bit off even though I still like the music. It didn't seem like it in the show as well as it has before. Yeah okay so we sent Moscow Eisley Cantina or the muscles of the spaceport. Looks pretty much the same okay. So the the most Eisley Cantina this is a you know icon place from Star Wars history. This where we were Han. Solo met Luke Skywalker. Obi Wan Kanobi cough arm in the most iconic of all grio yelled McClusky so Things have changed here. There's no droid skinner outside. There's now a droid bartender You know the droids were not allowed there before there's no band playing. It seems like it's quite empty. I'm not sure if that's because it's like you know in the morning or something. It's not like hopping place like Brad. What do you think has happened here? I it's a good question. Actually I hadn't really thought about that. The bar is definitely less lively. So I don't know maybe people feel like they don't have to hide as much moss isolate anymore because because the empire has fallen so maybe maybe people are just much more out and about and not really worried about Trying to stay hidden from the empire. See this this is like if you're going to return to the most Eisley Cantina and you're GonNa like do fans her this stuff. I wish they explored more like you. Now tell us something about you. Know twin tell it's like you know how is it changed in the fall of that. Not only the fall of the empire but also the fall of job of the hut who is kind of like in control of that region right like how has that affected the space port. And like I feel like we get none of that. I'm sure that that's going to becoming coming. Once we get introduced to Giancarlo ESPOSITO's character who we know is An officer from the Empire who is walking around with his own clan of of death troopers so I feel like that when whenever he shows up. That's going to be episode where we learn more about exactly what people who used to be part of the empire are doing and what their their state he is in the Galaxy for sure. Okay so he's looking for some work under the table and some guy named Toro Cal can and this is played by Jake The guy you mentioned before he's the son of actor Bobby But Bobby Valentine of all He has poked give him. He's he's looking to bring in Fiqh. Stand Shan't our know how to pronounce that basically it's the character played by Ming Nana. Win and What are your thoughts on her? As an actor she. She's kind of like completed with this role. She's kind of completed the Disney TRIFECTA. She voiced a Disney princess in Milan. she is in the marvel cinematic universe kind of agents shields and now she's in Star Wars like. What else is there for her to complete that like I guess picks early? Yeah but what are you. What are your thoughts on her? As an actress I think she was good in in this episode. She didn't have a lot to do she. Definitely just a quick of small guest star character I I've never been a huge fan of her as an actress. I feel like she can be a bit melodramatic a TV actress not an ad. I hate saying that because that sounds you know a generalization but especially since TV has changed so much. But I I would say television I was GonNa say I would say it feels a bit network Eh. which I know is still generalization because but but like you know I feel like the big dramatic stuff? That's on cable and premium cable. It usually typically is a step above like the network. He stuff But Yeah Okay so data shows that she's headed beyond the dunes see another reference Laurean says that she's a top mercer adversary and wants nothing of it Toro begs midler in It's his first job and he needs to succeed to get into the guild in basically offers up the entire amount of money In Mendel agrees I I. I know you mentioned this earlier that this is like the dynamic of a rookie in a season bounty hunter teaming up together. Something that we've seen before but I feel like I think this dynamic in this show could have been explored further but it seems very kind of like on the nose in the way they explored here Okay so mando returns to the ship in his scared that baby yoga is missing. He wakes bitty baby it up. Who is being looked after by? I the mechanic and Toro meets him outside with a couple speeder bikes Mando kind of gives look at what do you expect. This isn't Karelya They speed off and she looks down at bb. Yoda so these are like bikes. We've seen before four. This is another reference Almost the one that like anikin rides and attack of the clones The musicares sound very eighties. Movie Out Out in the middle of the sand dunes they spot some Tuscan raiders. You know another reference on some Banda's another reference The Raiders Toro and Mendel uses some sign language to talk them. This is the first time that we've seen a communication with Tuscan raiders As far as I know unless there's something in the animated side of Star Wars that I am forgetting. Yeah I think it is and George Lucas. I think kind of based a Tuscan raiders off of like native Americans and this kind of seems like an evolution of that which I guess is nowadays is probably would clean cracked but I I'm wondering you know. Is this a known version of sign language. Or is this like another you know star wars version of the but also. I'm wondering you know. Middle or end. Seems to know how to communicate with them. The Tuscan raiders are natives of tattooing. We we have never seen them off that planet they are only they only live on the in the desert of tattooing. So how does men men know how to communicate with them. I mean bounty hunters are usually pretty seasoned seasoned in a variety of cultures and dealing with a lot of different people. So I imagine over the years that he has learned to communicate with plenty of different species his But it could very well be something that is tied to a child. He learned growing up too. Yeah it just makes me wonder if he has passed and tattooing Or if that's even be explored I know the show has shown Jonah's the first off world jowls before the show there was never a Jolla. That was not on tattooing. So so maybe we'll find out that Tuscan raiders. Are you know. Were prevalent across the galaxy so Okay Mando offers was up. Toro's new noculars in exchange for passage across the land and they speed off to another isolated part of the sand dunes and they find ended due back with someone who has been down. He's on the ground Do you back another reference made it gets close to investigate. He turns the person over and finds another bounty hunter with beeping. Fob Do think this bounty hunter was after Babe Iota or was she was the after a minks character. That's a good question it could. It could be either or I feel like maybe more than likely it was probably for baby ODA because Toro had a puck for For for Phoenix so that I feel like that's probably indicative that there was only one person after that job. Yeah that's a good point like it's kind of established in the first episode that usually it's only one person's giving a puck for bounty. Yeah and it was very unusual. That a lot of people got pucks for baby etta So so okay In this guy's wearing a jacket almost looks like resistance like jacket which makes me wonder if I don't know how he's connected is connected to the rebel lions. I don't know I guess we'll never find out But Middle Oriane quickly realizes that this is like a set up of some sort art and I'm with all the references in this episode of. I was kind of surprised that he didn't say this. It's a trap. Yeah 'cause I mean why not so a sniper bullet from MK. Rifle hit Mando in the best car in Minot decides to wait until dark making moves than she has highgrounds. Hi grounds another reference We see Ming for the first time. She's under a mask. Is this like any kind. The Mask Leaf seen before and Star Wars Canon It does kind of resemble the masks that some of the inquisitors where But I can't imagine at this character has ties to the citizens really like it if anything. It's just another kind of bounty hunter gear that we've seen. There's been a lot of different kinds of bounty hunters with various kinds of armor and stuff like that. So that's really what this seems like. Yeah I I'll say that it looks cool in now that it's dark Toro tries wake up. And he's out in Toro pulls a gun on him a gunslinger and Minnows like are you done is a funny funny moment Windows plan is to ride towards her and use flash charges the blind tour The chargers interfere with her night vision. Helmet she has to take that off she hits Minto hits me speeder. And he goes flying She has his her sights on him. But Toro comes up from behind not so fast Hand combat fight. This feels very TV right. Yeah for sure. Yeah Mendel breaks breaks up the fight and she surrenders She's coughed in middle. Goes in search of our it and he goes in search with blaster She hasn't seen Mando a mandatory in a long time She mentioned something about an event happening on a planet Navarro. How and I don't know what she's talking about? But it seems very clear that she's talking about the event with all the men delorean's on that planet with Grieve Encargado that we saw in what episode three so finally get a name to that planet. That's Navarro which I think has appeared ever in Star Wars Canon A.. And so it's a new new planet. Mando wants to go find the do back. They saw and Torah says the hill watcher. which seems seems like a bad idea? he tells her that he tells him that she's no good test. DADS to keep her alive She offers him twice the amount of money for bounty bounty. which is the same thing that happened in the pilot episode? It almost feels like John Ever. Who's writing these like? Just three uses a lot of the same kind of like ideas bounty hunters. You know these things happen all the time. He's not interested because he wants entrance to the guild and she tells him that Mendoza Armor alone is worth much more in than her bounty and also if he brought the guild The trader his name name would be legendary because You know word of him in the baby have reached you know around the galaxy. Apparently How can we be sure that he's the one and she says that the word is not that he the word is? He has a child with him. So my question to you is how would people know this like how is word gun around the galaxy of like this the small little bounty mission. I mean you gotTa figure if that many bounty hunters have a fob. And they're trying to track this thing bounty hunters talk among each other and I'm sure that information about them is being passed around all over the Galaxy Eh She asked him to free her from the cuffs instead. He shooter leaves On a speeder. With the grand plans to bring Mando into the guild old This kind of a surprise right like I feel like when they were promoting the show there are promoting the Tekoa t was going to have a big role in that she was going to have a big role role in that This show is going to have some diversity to it and it feels like a lot of the like you know Bryan Ryan Young writes on the site that It's kind of like the old western shows where you have a person in just for one episode. They'd come in in like die like a big name or bigger name CELEB- actor But I it. Do you think it's a little bit disingenuous that we've been kind of promoted that like all these diverse cast and they're kind of like just come in or out like you know minutes later. No because I mean the rest of the cats that are still alive. It's still very much diverse. I mean Pedro. Pascal is a Chilean actor. Carl weathers is still alive as grief Carga. So there's there's a lot of other cast members still that are living so and and if the show is driven from Western. That's kind of the idea you know. Having this rotating thing with different actors popping up as guest stars some of them die some some appear and disappear maybe pop up later. We've talked about before how we probably haven't seen the last eleven so I hope so. It's a mando returns on you. You back finds her dead. He returns to town finds the speeder outside the mechanics Toro has her at gunpoint. It's holding baby. Yoda If they killed baby the other point I'd be like out But Toro basically you know monologues to use the term from incredible and and Mando uses this opportunity to get the upper hand and take tour out pelly tells Mendota take tore out the to Bigger Canyon which reference and be viewed as missing and but is found hiding behind something and she consoles him. I I do think that this relationship like on paper seems like cuter than it does in this episode like. It seems like she's like you're taking care of this baby but she's he's so woefully unaware of how much power this baby has in how you know. How much carrying that? The baby doesn't need sure but that's all that is also kind of what makes it amusing. And plus we do get a moment to where she calls out the mandate being like. You don't know what you're doing this is not. Let's take care of a kid like ensure Meno hint her a bunch of money. Where did he get this money? I I guess it would stand to reason that maybe he got it from the bounty for for Phoenix. Character Somehow Oh because he probably handed Phoenix character in no but Phoenix still there. Because did that in the true herb. Yeah I don't know that's a good question. It's very unclear The rage Chris Takes Off someone wearing a cape. It's Jingling Spurs. I think you'd call them on his boots. Almost like a cowboy comes up to me. His character cut to black so the question here or is is she dead like I think she's dead right. Yeah I feel like you would be offered. Survive that Then what does this character. Dr Want with her a chance that maybe this person was also after her and now will be going after the person Kelder who. Yeah who killed her. Because he's mad that he doesn't get to take them in Themself I I'm actually wondering if this character is going to be Giancarlo Jan Carlo Esposito's character because we do see that character wearing a cape in the trailer And he and he does have armor and Stefan Jeff on so I. I wouldn't be surprised if this is where we start heading in that direction that that was definitely my first thought and then my like fourth or fifth thought is could it be Bubba fat or could it be a guy who has fettes armor someone got it in aftermath the book. I don't think either of that's going to happen or at least not in the season Okay so we're at the end of this episode What I feel like one of my complaints points about this episode last couple episodes so little actually really happens like almost nothing we? I guess we have a new enemy in the form of of Fanatic right a new ally in the form of Kelly. We have this new mysterious steriods gunslinger. But it always seems like each of these episodes is like a pit stop episodic like just adventure I I kind of want the main thrust of the story line to be hitting more war of speed like I should be we should be punching it into you. Know a faster speed at this point. I've got and I. I think I feel like now that we have been teased. The arrival of MAFA Gideon Giancarlo esposito's character that that will be take us into this last leg episodes and I think that will be the overarching story. That helps Finish out the season. Is there any baby iota stuff in this episode that is going to be mean worthy. I feel like that was also also drops. I don't feel anything though. Is like super cute. Like in that had been a thing for the last few episodes like Ev. Every appearance of video is like just like adorable. Yeah he didn't really do anything particularly funny or remarkable in this one where you could turn it into a Mimi. No the closest thing is probably just seeing him. Just walk down the ship you know. The ships ramp. Yeah Anything we missed spread anything you want. Want to say about this episode I I don't think so I got I gotta say I one of the things I think that as far as just the General Fan services that kind of bold for them to put Toro in the same same seat that Han Solo was sitting in the CANTINA. Almost like they're trying to draw comparison between them and it's like now not today. 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Episode 25 Top Three Sibling Songs

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Episode 25 Top Three Sibling Songs

"Welcome to the planet l. p. podcasts. Kids this is the place where we drop the needle on a world of albums. I'm ted s. Were doing back riding shotgun with these john young. Hi john hey tajik getting the seat adjusted swamp comfortable riding shotgun with you. Want you to be comfortable is always important that you're comfortable as i like to remind listeners. From time time. John is the host of the ninety five three kyi morning show broadcasting from the city of vacaville california. He's been there since one thousand nine hundred nine me amusing traffic person at iheartmedia in san francisco but john and i met when we worked for the same company was called coast radio and they own three stations. He was at y that was one that they owned. And i was at the companies to other stations. Kk iq and kk. Devi now years ago. Portland based alpha media bought all three stations and now john is an alpha dog. While i've got heart. See what i did there with the ponds had heart. Well those are jobs but we started this podcast because we are such music fans who love talking about album's songs bands artists and even books about music and we're fans of interacting with you too on the socials. I'm on twitter at s. regarding that's t. a. s. r. e. g. a. d. o. Tennis forgotten on facebook and spotify. And i mentioned spotify because i've started putting together playlists of the songs we mentioned in our various episode. So you don't even really need a spotify count. You can still listen to the platelets by searching for them for free but if you do have spotify account follow me on their john. Where are you social. I am easy to find on twitter at j. c. y. Lcs w reach me on instagram. To on my insta- lcs w j y kind of inverted the whole thing there and on facebook. I'm just one of the billions of john. Young's ready to become your friend. You the same profile picture. All three of your socials or do you mix it up. I try to mix it up for a while. I was had masked pictures of all of me because we were trying to get those idiots out. There is still weren't following the mask mandates to do that. I'm not sure that my profile picture help that in any way but now i've tried to mix it up a little bit so you get a different version of john. Depending on which social media channel you prefer so in this episode john. And i are gonna talk about a common way. Many of us get introduced to a band or artists. And that's through. Our siblings are brothers and sisters whose taste in music may diverge from yours but well because they were so passionate about a song a group or an artist well kind of rubbed off on. You may be for better from maybe for worse and because this episode is about sibling songs just slap a label on it. John and i have invited to of our siblings onto the show to talk about our top three songs albums that we got hip to because of our siblings. Are you ready for this journey. John i am ready to talk to at least one of my siblings and not necessarily my favorite because i love both of them equally. That's very diplomatic of you. Okay let's pull the ripcord and parachute back to a time. When our brothers and sisters helped frame our musical taste arab brothers and sisters. They have such an influence over us in ways. We probably don't want to admit to ourselves but there's no doubting that sometimes sometimes they're taste in music. Oh well pretty good if not great so to kick start top. Three siblings songs john. Welcome our brothers. And i'll start the introductions with my brother. Steve s to aka steve fox. He's been in the radio industry since he was twelve years old. I'm not kidding. He's consistently worked in the broadcasting realm since that time and currently works as an announcer with katie radio in san francisco which is local. Npr affiliate he also works for the same company that john does at alpha media if you want to do the dog park for major hosting afternoons on ninety to one k. k. devi in walnut creek california he also runs his own streaming station called steve. Fox's old school which you can hear on iheartradio in tune in and i actually listened to on apple music which has both available the iheart and the tune in app john. How 'bout you introduce your brother from the same mother and father absolutely. I am stoked to introduce you to my brother bryan young a two years younger than me but as a squeezed a lot of life into his brief fifty something years here on the planet. He is currently a drummer. A singer songwriter for the rock band. Banger they tour all over the northern california area. in fact. i'm gonna try to squeeze the story out of my brother. How they played at san quinton doing an amazing show there for the inmates. That is still considered one of the coolest things that happened in northern california rock scene. Brian's been drummer with the number of prominent punk rock bands including the betis in orange county and snub nose in sacramento the ban that he was in before he Put together banger with some friends. Now brian and i have a chance to play music together over the years. A we're both drummers he's continued to drummer might drumming more suspect. Brian continues to do it all the time. And he's great at it. He's a great singer as well. Too great songwriter. And he's been a great brother to me since nineteen sixty seven. That sounds good. Brothers asked forgotten in young. Welcome to the planet. Lp podcast thank you. Thanks for having us okay. So let's get started with our number. Three's and our siblings songs and i should add. It could be albums bands or artists. So brian you drew the short straw. My friend you are. I and i didn't just get the short straw big john's brother. I guess i guess go first here as well so might number. Three is a a band that sort of joins forces from either side of the pond. The pretenders as you know what. I was young impressionable with music. We listen to a lot of hard rock in the seventies that sort of thing and i had a pension for that thinking that it had to be pretty bombastic to to get my attention and john started listening to the pretenders. I'm not exactly sure why maybe chrissie hinde probably just started looking at the album covers before even fracking the bad listening to it. It really kind of opened my eyes to sort of stripped down rock and roll that was engaging compelling even without having to be hit over the head with it when they did hit you over the head with a little bit like tattooed love boys or something bad. It really made a big impression than some of the heavier stuff that we were listening to his kids. What some of your favorite songs that. It's that i record. Right is at the one he introduced to. Yeah really just getting it out of the gate back when you buy an album because it looked cool and you are often rewarded and that was certainly at that first album despite every single track on it is near perfect. It's true it's it's from start to finish. There's there's not a bad track but what are the stand at once for you. I keep going back to tattooed. Love boys like led to the drum parts away that sort of has a circular part to try to learn that. Skip a beat. Every several measures always catches me a little off guard even listening to covers of it in how other people play the part. I've always been fascinated with that. Great point that drum part in tattooed love boys is amazing and weird and martin chambers. Who's also amazing and weird. Their drummer was another guy loved to follow. I think brian. And i both kind of vibe done the fact that this cool british dude with a pompadour was smiling beats that we're not typical of punk and hard rock bands at the time. He was innovative. And of course at james honeyman scott was just amazing and john. I had the opportunity to see the pretenders in san francisco when i first moved to northern california. I think we did that. Within the first few months i was here was a great show. Nineteen ninety-four. I want to say it was the cow palace. I could be wrong. I remembered the venue but we saw them that ninety four tour when they had that group that had put together the learning to crawl record for the most part before they had changed. Fifty different members and martin. Chambers was playing drums for them. At that time it was a great show so we did get to see him play. That was pretty amazing. The one thing about martin chambers drumming that stood out to me and i think tattooed love. Boys is is a definitely a great example but another song on that album. The weight also has kind of this weird rhythm to it. I'm sure it's a two and four. But i'm just not. I'm feeling a little more frenetic if you will. That's the word. I'm looking for both drummers. Did you notice that when you listen to that song that it just feels a little not only the temple fast but it just feels like. There's something slightly off. The actual beat in a way as a pair chambers and honeyman scott together would do that skipping a beat adding beat doing one measure of different types of your together with a little different than listening to for instance like john bottom jimmy page bottom play like a pretty straightforward foreign. It just didn't sound like it because of the alternate time signatures page replay against it. Which would make you think that the drums. you're playing something that they're not whereas listening to the pretenders they all skip that stuff together as a group. It's difficult to follow if you were expecting sort of the other way that those kind of skipped beats go together. My final point about martin chambers. He was also not considered an amazing drummer. In fact kristie hind fired him a couple of times from the band by quote not playing up to scratch which i just love that whole idea. He's not playing up to scratch so they can do so before we give him too much. Credit for being like super innovative. It may have been you know. Maybe he just wasn't one of those metronomic kinda drummers which of course is part of his charm and he's still playing today so he's got bullock's. All of you need you. But there was a point where people were kind of scratching their heads. Maybe he's not that good. It could also be that of thing. It was maybe a self taught innovation that no one else can really track. Good point this in you want the martin chambers sound. You're not gonna get from those other large. You're going to get from chambers copyright on it myself in the third person. I'm really serious. Exactly all right steven you to go your number three all right. This is gonna be a good one chicago. Go back to the early days of chicago. Not talking about you're the inspiration or anything like that but You thank you very much a track days. So my brother ray or should i say our brother ray. My he used to tease him a lot. And i think we eat tormented him way too much especially me. We had an eight track tape player was a real cool stereo that my dad bought that you could actually court on the eight track and i thought i wonder if this will work on the chicago. Eight track if i push record and say something so what happened was the last song and the track was feeling stronger every day and finally came to the end of the song and also you heard this tweak than i came on saying feeling stronger every day and edward so my brother was listening to it and and the next thing. I here's steve. I have to add one thing to that story my father. We didn't have paid your basic automobiles you know just to chevys but he was a physician so we finally splurged on a cadillac and it had an eight track tape in it. And so my oldest brother raise- driving around in the cadillac groove into chicago on the track suddenly feeling stronger every day's pulling into the driveway gooden into the garage starting to fade out. He's like is great and then all of a sudden you're steve on their stronger every day. Yeah steve you faster. That's exactly what was going through his mind. So washout steve was. That was that the chicago because they numbered every album. was that be chicago. Elmo's at a A greatest hits yeah. I think that was a greatest hits because we ordered that from what was house columbia house for a penny. I was part of that. That was part of that. Good story and okay. So chicago's feeling stronger every day but chicago in general reminds you of ray and and you got into the ban because of him right pretty much like i said the earlier chicago not the leg. All right john here you go number three number three. I'm going to divert attention to our sister susan. Brian and my younger sister. Who as brian is pointed out many times. And he's quite correct. She has better taste than both of us combined and kind of always did in a weird way although she's the one member of our family who's not a technical musician. My parents both were musicians. Brian i obviously our susan has a real good sense of what is hip long before brian. I got that sense. And i'm giving my sister credit for introducing me to nellie of all artists. We were celebrating susan's thirtieth birthday. This is in one thousand nine hundred nine. I'm assuming it's off of melis. I record which was country grammar which i think came out in that summer and the song ride with me which i still some that whole. I mean the ben z's i feel this roseville. I still kind of hear myself squeaking that out at her birthday party i demonstrated there and i gotta believe that i never would have had any connection to nelly at all had susan up playing that song over and over again and saying you guys gotta listens guys really hip from louisiana. The south hip hop rapper. But he's he's got this groove to him. I went out and bought his second record. Nellie ville which has hot in here. Which i still think is one of the coolest songs of the early two thousands. And it's because of my sisters susan that i had any interest in elliot and now i kind of have this passing like like i want to know as he is. He doing a reality show does he. Is he signed to a labels doing country music now. I became a fan because of her. So there wow deli. That's right you kind of throw curveballs at me. Sometimes with your choices. I remember when the chronic was one of your choices came up a couple of times and the chronic and but it seems like every piece of music or something. That really makes an impression on you comes with a story. And that's a good one. About how well the sibling really kinda shaped. Your musical tastes in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine right here. He started kyc. That's what i hear. And she she was able to do that. I know my brother's got other stories. Too of of introducing having susan introduce him to bands that by all rights he should have already introduced himself to but she was together so she we and who by the way. We'll celebrate a birthday. I know we're recording this on the twenty ninth of july her birthday tomorrow. Happy birthday susan. We love you. So little side. Listen to our podcast. A she s. She does as a matter of husband mike. So here's to them. Definitely nice stories. There susan okay. So keeping with sisters. My sister laura loves disco. She was that was her jam. Funk soul disco earth wind and fire is probably the one record or the one group that really reminds me of her. I mean she's into the teenyboppers stuff to andy gabe and the osbournes and stuff like that. But when earth wind and fire were super-popular in the disco era chewed often come home from school work and she'd put on some earth wind fire songs and just dance just dance. It was like a stress reliever for her. But stephen i would just kind of sit there and watch her dancing. She seemed so happy to be lost in this music. And when i started seventh grade we had school dances as you know. You probably had them to john and it didn't know how to dance very well so she showed me how to do. Some basic moves with like earth wind and fire songs and then progressive other moves. That were little. More advanced beginner disco. But it worked and i never had problems asking girls to dance. Because i wasn't embarrassed by my lack of rhythm on the dance floor. I wish older sister damn should've gotten the begged her for it. Man i needed so much help in that period of my life. The record that i really love by the band is their nineteen seventy seven album all in all and like many earth wind and fire records. It has this egyptian theme. It's almost sifi which i love. I love sci-fi stuff but it has solid and varied songs from start to finish. Of course there are some huge hits on this record. Serpentine fire and fantasy and jupiter was at the top of the charts. Peaked out at number three on the billboard. Hot one hundred triple platinum so telling folks to listen to nine hundred seventy seven earth when fire all in all. It's not much of a risk. You're not risking much. Listen to this record. So all in all from earth wind and fire from nine hundred seventy seven. That's my that's my sibling. pick thanks to laura. Thank you laura. What a great choice and a great band. Oh my gosh. I could go on. We could do an entire episode and we might could brian back to you number two number two for me in. Keep it with the sisters here. Younger sister susan. As john said she was a little cooler especially in high school and she helped me to a wide variety of things. Remember the yeah's album upstairs at eric's was one of them. That sort of the guys that eventually became erasure and then on the other end of the spectrum. Something kinda stuck with and have enjoyed ever since Banned from the sacramento area the cramps. Who she had all of that kind of stuff whether it was that. Sort of euro disco steph or the cramps. Which sort of horror psycho. Billy type of band before. That was really a thing. The album bad music for bad people was kind of a staple all kinds of good songs on it but band that i eventually got to see a number of times while they were still together and still all here including a couple of really fantastic. Halloween shows in in san francisco. And there's nothing quite like writing bart on the last train out in post cramps halloween. Get up with a few other dozen strangers in the same sort of condition. You're lucky to be alive. I'm lucky to be alive tracks on that record on that album. What would you what would you listen to some of your failed. I really like human fly was one that was really good. One of the things that was great by the cramps was humana covers. That they did. That's right and pick the last time. I saw them as sort of the warm up. Music at this is at the warfield in san francisco. They simply played the original versions of everything they cover. And i think we heard like thirty songs in the hour or so before. The show started really pretty cool bad music. For bad people was again one of those other things where you saw record cover for the first time with the big pompadour skull on the front you could. What is this like this possibly sound like looking at it than looking at the band lux interior poison ivy kind of thinking yourself like what could this possibly be and it was just kind of exploded at. You is really something. Also a earlier bands. Rock band didn't use a bass player for quite a bit of time. And sort of a progenitor just white stripes or black keys or something like all very troubling not light sounding but just very cutting sounding was was hit. I'm looking at the track listing of bad music for bad people. garbage man. New kind of kick love me can hardly stand it. She said my favorite title right. Now google muck google muck ladies and gentlemen that belongs on the playlist one way or another just to write it out. Yes out of any of those. That i mentioned of course even fly. You mentioned drug trained. Tv set and uranium rock. So awesome out of those giving another act. You'll come back okay. Yeah stephen back. Well since everybody's keeping with their sisters. I will go into the same thing my sister laura. She had a big influence. I would say she had a big influence on a lot of us in the family. So did my mom. But she's not my sibling. Lura was one that did introduce a lotta music to us and one of them. That really stuck and i still love to death. Is donna summer. I remember yesterday was the album. And so she played that over and over and while she was teaching ted how to dance. I don't know why. Never got into that. Because i can't dance that's why i'm i'm a. Dj the highlight of the album. Is i feel love and when you put their headphones on and listen to that song. The stereos is incredible on that. And so futuristic play that over and over again. It's the highlight of the album. Right there giorgio. Moroder is the one who was the mastermind. That song right and sexy song from what i remember. Yes yes it did. A lot of panning. There was a lot of panning going on from left to right on the making good use of the stereo field as they say. Yeah there was a lot of it was as well as regarded. I think that's love to love you. Baby i feel love. Didn't have that same kind of like you want to put that on. You know a poor stiff and you know sure ready. I don't know if it heavy moaning and grown okay. Listen i'm donna. Summer fanatic to. It's a great choice down even the rock side of donna. Summer which doesn't always get a lot of love. It gets it for me. Hot stuff's guitar part. Go ahead and learn that it'll take you six months She works hard for the money. I i could go on. i'm a. I'm a donna. Summer fan so. I'm relating big time so you feel the love only feel the love right. Now listen to feel love and you get that serve like stomas power chord progression on it which is really cool. It's also to me. Because i listened to tons and tons of covers. I love coverage staff. That's one of the songs where. I don't think i've heard a bad cover of it yet. You know sort of meaning. It's one of those songs that's kind of bulletproof and you can do all kinds of different stuff with it. And it still holds up pretty well brodsky. Beat did a cover of i feel love. It must've been like eighty four eighty five somewhere around there. Maybe a little bit later. That was really good too as you guys were talking about the covers i agree. I mean all the covers. I've heard that song were incredible. And i had a lot of big influence on those bands that decided to go ahead and cover it. I totally agree with john. And with all the other songs hot stuff and even into the eighties with works hard for the money and whatnot. She's awesome. I mean she's she is up there. Thank you laura. She's label mates with kiss to she was on casablanca records. Yes it was. I tried today too many times but she would. Never return my secretaries calls. You blame her. would you. Gene simmons i guess maybe he's charming and real life because cher liked morale for about a day and then she said you know if i could turn back time i would not date gene simmons. Wow that's a that's a landmine dating landmine. You're walking through all right john europe. I am with my number two pick here. I'm going to get brian a lot of credit. Because of his love upon because he described how the cramps and other bands my sister introduced him to eventually started to build this brian. Correct me if i'm wrong. But he would he moved away from sort of melodic seventies hard rock early eighties hard rock and really began to dive. Deep into punk and one of the band's orange county band both from southern orange county's where we grew up is agent orange. I didn't know much about them. Except their name was kind of provocative and I heard rumblings about this sort of surf punk sound. Oh taking the dick. Dale surf guitar sound and then putting it behind a punk speed beat with more intense bass guitar work ryan was the first one to introduce me to that sound and although i was still trending towards a cdc led zeppelin even deaf leopard or eighties rock. I thought that rocked harder. Brian forced me to look at that other end of it. These bands that were coming out of orange county clubs they didn't rely on pyrotechnics or awesome videos. Necessarily the way to get my attention. It was really about kind of kicking in the head a little bit and forcing you to listen based on kind of a combination of aggression and interesting style. Which is what. I think agent orange did. They're one of the many bands he he turned me. Onto in that vein. Bad religion black flag. I don't remember the melvin from southern california. But i know they were brothers are a lot of pants by brothers actually opened for over the years. I couldn't get rapid drumming vibe out of my own style. As i started to perform in my own original bands in in the early to mid eighties in orange county it was influenced directly by bands like agent orange. So thanks brian. I think that the first time. I heard them was on the rodney on the rock albums. With the second one that had brooke shields with the intro and that. I think i might be wrong but it was agent. Orange bloodstains was their song on that album. I think it came on right after brooke shields announced who she was and what she listens to rate. We're going to be playing with agent orange at the whisky of gogo in southern california in november nice friday november twelfth for the opening for them. That'll be pretty good. Gig brooke shields be opening for you. But whenever she's in la always listens to bangor. I can't tell you what it was kind of cool was the this guy's listening to had sort of a punk rock aesthetic. That was either informed by country music or bakersfield sound or surf music that was agent orange. And one of the most amazing things i've ever seen was a show that was agent. Orange headlining with the ventures as main support and opening the show was something called the wipeouts that sounded terrible. Very few of us were there before the show started and it started with about a dozen people sitting crosslegged on the floor waiting to see what the wipeouts were gonna be what they were going to do and it turns out it was mike palm and the rest of agent. Orange might the lead singer guitar player of the band and they gave a masterclass on the history of surf. Music playing traditional instruments for about forty minutes wound by the time they were finished. There was probably less than fifty people. There watching it and we just sat there and listened to him go through the traditional beginnings of surf music playing some very early electric guitars and tiny amps little drums and stuff and it was it was fascinating. I have to admit not knowing anything about agent orange so when i saw john's lists eyewitness listening to some of the music and while i don't know any songs the style of the music is very familiar to me because it was very much so cal style of punk and which i was listening to various bands back in the mid eighties. I would say at the time. Especially you know. Informed by by films like repo man and things like that that kinda got me into that genre so i recognize the style of it even though i don't know a lot of the songs. But they're pretty solid band so good peck. Yeah all right so onto me. I guess this is like introduce you now. At least please do john. Gentlemen ted has regarded with pick number two john. Thank you very much. It is abandoned. My oldest brother ray was really into the moody blues. And i've talked about this band a few times on this podcast. It's no surprise that i'm a fan of their music. They had massive adult contemporary hits the eighties and nineties. But it's their melodic folk and progressive rock stuff that they didn't sixties and seventies. That really did it for me. So it's difficult to pick a favorite record from that era they. It's called the course of seven era. Those with their course of albums. A few of my favorite songs would be sunset from days of future passed from nineteen sixty seven higher and higher from the album tour children's children's children that came out in eighteen sixty nine and the story in your eyes from every good boy deserves favor from nineteen seventy-one one and because you're are guitarist. John you would love the justin hayward he does on that opening guitar riff with that. He's got these. Velvety vocals earned his lyrics background vocals. Or great it's clear to me on this on why he became the de facto leader of his band because his songs were the most radio friendly. So that's is that is my pick fry the number who and now we get to the number once. He's once once an brian. You are up right. This is probably not going to be a surprise that i've got to give credit begin to john. This is an artist that i was very lukewarm to when i first started listening thinking at this time i was getting into heavier music in harder staff when john started listening. To a good deal of tom petty. I thought well that sounds okay. But it's a little light. It didn't really hit me over the head. This isn't that long ago but baby fifteen years ago. Something close to that. We started playing together. We started getting into a lot of the. Tom petty catalog at the time. We're covering at least two songs recovered you recommend and we covered mary. Jane mary jane and we also want to be close with us to close with something else i need to know. I need to know second record right and so learning to play. Those songs gave me a whole new appreciation for the songs for the songwriting for the way the band together and as i sort of got out a more so into the musical community either. Friends of mine are playing in bands covering songs. That kind of thing. Everybody universally loves tom. Petty heartbreakers and i started talking to people who were musical than i am. You know about why they like it and it almost invariably came down to how they operate together as a band. And it's always. It's been discussed many times. How as an actual working rock band. It's hard to find a group that performed better down to each player as a unit though sons. Lowy stick with me. Because i have such good memories of playing those songs for maybe thirty people at a winery or three hundred people at the creek walk in vacaville or playing the dixon mayfair or playing will be. We're playing small bars playing that to a bunch of drunks at two in the morning and i need to know everyone sing along. And it's a great song. You put a little mustard on it up. Hurt yourself and i think it's nice interesting because brian. You may not know this. But ted has had a love hate. Mostly hate relationship with tom and with justifiably for over concerns about some of the social connections early on in in. Tom petty's southern three. And that kind of thing. But i think it's interesting to hear somebody else who was not necessarily a huge fan. Find out why they liked it. Because ted has come around to a lot of the music including i think some of the songs we mentioned here so it's not impossible to convert a not necessarily petty crazy person into somebody's willing to look at them in a different light just like brian described steve any comments on brian's pick for tom is great. I mean tom petty. I agree sure it was a love hate with him but i think he was awesome. I mean all the way through really haven't had a problem with tom. Petty at all. I love him every time a song of his comes on blasted on the outlier here left sitting in the corner alone. I'll be over here. Guys hate non learning how to smoke on the water. Bye bye bye. All right steve. You're up well going back in time. I mean number one. Well comes from ted and it all started when the escape song came out by rupert holmes. Introducing what. I'm kidding really okay. No actually going way back. I mean when i was in high school doing a radio. Their dire straits came out and they came out with salt and swing. And i could not get enough of that forty five. I was and they're way ahead of their time at that time thinking about what came out. During that period of time in seventy eight seventy nine mata disco yeah definitely is either disco rock but what was dire straits. Then you really can categorize it somewhere in whatever category could be. You know. 'cause it was on its own or they were on their own. I should say but anyway as time went on ted and buying a bunch of those albums and I started getting into it and up to this day. I can't get enough of dire straits last night. It came on and i was like. That's it is dire straits. Because i was talking to ted earlier about something that he and i have in common as far as You know certain groups that we both love. And i was going to go with prince but but i was thinking there's something that's sticking out and what it is and it was dire straits industrial disease. Is this one song that sticks out from that album. Every time i hear that it always reminds me of ted sitting in what used to be our old house and we'd be playing all these songs he'd be doing mix tapes and And yeah it would come on and just get into it. It was fun to good song on one thing. I like about mark knopfler is. You don't need a big range vocal range to sing along with the dire straits songs against use to sort of like growl along if you want to. Even john could do it like china you walk. You do walk. Oh john your number one. I know kind of getting close to brian's time that he's got to leave us. So i want to be able to give my brother love while he's still on the line with us. My number one pick is. It's a genre that. Brian introduced me to melds a little bit into the to the punk genre that we talked about last. But it's the band social distortion and this is something that i think my brother and i really have commonality on. I'm borrowing from brian's influences. And i think sometimes he's borrowing for mine but we have our separate camps. Social distortion is the band. Were both in the same tent camping in the same campground if you can follow my drift here what brian loves about social distortion. I love about social distortion. The songwriting the three to four chord. That's all you need to tell a story mike. Nass who not only is the storyteller in the singer but also the lead guitar player. He plays a less. Paul which brian. I love that greedy. Nasty marshall stack kind of sound and this band. I think does the same things for me. That it does for bryant. That's why it's so special to me. Because in o'brien will listen to rush and he understands why they're good and he likes the beatles and not in the play along but they're not the bands that he identifies with an fantasizes about playing drums in where he and i would be perfectly comfortable being fill ins for anybody in the band. Social distortion. i'll just mention a couple of the songs that have stuck with me. Because they're simple. I feel like i could write social distortion song. And that's not to say that i'm a great songwriter. Their songwriting is great. They're just accessible for a guy who can play okay guitar and okay drums and feels like i can sing okay. Social distortion speaks to me. They're not so far up the mountaintop that i can't get there Songs like bad lock. I was wrong which is just one of my favorites. Mike necessarily snarky. He just the best a ball and chain which you probably heard on the radio up. I'm a big fan of of donnelly. Early social distortion records. Brian was playing a lot but in the ninety s and even today while they continue to tour that continued to be relevant. I appreciate that gift. He gave me because. That's one of those bands. Where he and i don't have to go. Yeah that's brian's band. Or that's john's bad. I feel like to some degree although it's more brian's it's kind of our bad concluding thoughts about social distortion kind of funny. I had thought that social distortion was similar to tom. Petty for me and one of those bands. I think sort of grew up and continue to mature audience. They sort of Habit trajectory that looks like they've never really to embarrass themselves. I find that going to a show watching them play in my fifties. I don't feel out of place there with any of the other people that are they're in their fifties and they're now one of the very very few bands that i've taken my two kids to so my boys have gone and we've done the thing where it's like. I'm taking my kids to see a band. I was into when i was their age. And but that it's a thing now it's generational thing right now. I guess that's what it is a brian. Thanks for hanging out with us. I know that you've gotta run. We're gonna continue with well at least my number one and some concluding thoughts but thanks for being on the planet opie podcast awesome. Thank you guys for having me. And i'll be listening. Love your brother and right love youtube. Not all right. I'll see you see it. Mom's for dinner. Yeah don't be late again. They'll be late again and remember to bring some beer. Mom loves mom. Stop shot getting the slits little little peek into the young family. Yeah only a little. That's all you can take believe me okay. So it was fun with brian to betty. Had to drop off the call. So but i i get to get to my number one which steve was influential in helping me shape my rush obsession. It did not start. And i've talked about this on the podcast before about with the first time i saw the band in nineteen eighty one on the moving pictures tour at the oakland coliseum. Rather i can trace it back to. When steve brought home a promo copy of permanent waves because he was the program director of his high school radio station he also got these promo copies and would sometimes bring them home. Permanent waves was one of those records. I knew nothing about rush. I don't think i've ever heard them on the radio at that point even though they were probably played on. fm rock. so i asked them has banned any good and he just sorta civil. Put it on and see for yourself so i did and from the opening riff of the spirit of radio as completely intrigued. Wow this is pretty busy. It's really good. And then i started reading the lyric sheet and then my head because the words getty lee was singing seemed so well. Let's just say it was above my nickel and dime vocabulary at the time. Okay so i had to get out a dictionary. And look up words. Like unobtrusive or elusive. Now remember. I'm like a c. plus b. minus student at this point in nineteen eighty. So my vocabulary was limited to. What your typical ninth grader would know. So the standout tracks of course are the spirit of radio and free will which have tracked one and two. But i really like some of the deeper cuts like on a new and the album closer. Which is this monster. Trak called natural science. This was the start of russia's ascendance to the realm of a-list acts and that ascendance would really solidify about a year later when they released moving pictures in nineteen eighty one. So i think steve for introducing me to rush by just randomly bringing home a promo copy of permanent waves but it turned me into a rush van because it introduced me to the band. And that was the first introduction. So thank you steve. Yeah thank you steve. Okay yeah i see. Let me roughest that. Just by saying you understand that you've turned into a monster and you've turned him into a monster in the best possible way because honestly although it can be trying to To have him give you a twenty page soliloquy on rush on rush you. You have a question about rush. There is no better person literally on the planet lp or the planet earth or our solar system to ask your brother. And we've got to give you now now. We know the origins now. We need to give steve the credit for that. You are welcome. And there's a story behind that of why it brought. The home is because at the time i was working at a c. station adult contemporary and it wasn't a rock station and it was called k ninety six and i took the album down the k ninety six and a plane the spirit of radio on there for the artists that they played on the station. At that point. we're skis. I mean you boss bags or something off rock stuff you name it. I mean steve warbirds. Okay yeah okay. So i really love to see you tonight. Little including andy. Kim in there to did you throw i mean him and all that schmaltzy stuff and then you throw on the spirit of radio and one more thing i was playing american. Top forty it was on the am the am fm station and on the am american top forty one off the format a little bit. Then i put on a free will between the coming up next the sex pistols. God save the queen on occasion. Andy gabe is one of the brothers. Give but not really a brothers and listen to him in just admitted banana baba tailgate standard. Surely gentleman who loved to play rock and roll. There's some weight knows each rush with a free will. Now we go to our long distance. Dedication from steve dear casey. I think i've created a monster with my brother. I introduced him to the canadian. Repower cheer rosh and he can't stop listening to them helped me casey. What do i do concerned in california. They're concerned i'm asked rating reality. That has to be a feature every week. You have to long distance dedication. I'm begging could you please place rupert holmes or something. Let's hear him of his russia. Oh screen problem in the best possible. I still have that record that you brought home from the station. Really i do. It's packed away. But there's something interesting about that record and this is going to get into something. That's probably going to know john. But i don't care. They misprinted the lyrics of free will on that particular pressing. They had to correct it later. But it's got incorrect lyrics on there so there's a one of a few i don't know how many did let's say it was the first ten thousand printings but the first ten thousand records and i'm just making a that number has hunting yeah. It's a collector's item. Definitely is definitely is. I like the way we ended that with. Casey kasem. Love it a bad casey kasem impersonation i would. I would actually give that a b. plus to a newsletter that was really are pretty. Well well delivered. God nice job. Well as we wrap up steve and i should say bryan. Who's not there anymore. But thanks for being on the planet lp podcasts and sharing some music and memories that just go to show you how much her siblings helped shape our musical tastes. Gotta just say with my brother not on the call with us right now but he was certainly nice enough to take a little time out of his day to do that. And brian really continues to push boundaries. That i sort of gave up on fifteen years ago. He still listens to new music. He's a lot like you ted. He's opened a new sounds new style and because he's talented enough to be able to do them. He continues to grow musically he still even though he's younger. He tends to be my older brother hero role so i'll take that appreciate him being on today. Yeah definitely steve. Yes thank you for coming on. I know this is your second appearance. So if you got three more to get to the five timers club and then you get a free jacket. Like yeah like steve martin did on. Snl part of the five timers club so you. could you got three more. You punch a little card and you on. Brian's been on once he gets on five times he gets a free jacket to all right. We'll see who wins. I'm not saying it's a free new jacket jacket. That i have laying around and i will give it to you very nice. Is it's very slimming. Because you send your brother lately cheese cheeseburger equipment and so skinny. Quit riding your are steve. Thanks so much. For being on the planet l. p. Podcast had fun. I had a great time. It was great talking about our siblings and also hearing john's family to super cool to talk with you again steve. I'm lucky enough to get the chance to work with you fairly frequently throughout the year. It's always a blast but this was kind of fun just to not have to talk about what katy perry song is coming up next how we're going to get the news. You know put together correctly but talk and music and talk and siblings. It's been a blast. It really was and john were brothers from other mothers. but it's uncanny how often are musical tastes kind of intersect. And it's always great chatting with you about music my friend i appreciate it ted and you know i'm just busting your chops about rush. I love to give you a little bit of a little bit of pu. You know if that's what brothers do even if they're from other mothers and fathers right very good one. I love you brother love you to. Hey and thank you. For listening to the planet lp podcast. John and i will be back soon to drop the needle on a world of albums and just remember some of the songs that were mentioned on. This podcast will be available on spotify premise. You can just follow me at ten so long for now.

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Gold Standard: 49ers legend Bryant Young joins the show!

Niners Nation

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Gold Standard: 49ers legend Bryant Young joins the show!

"What is good. Everybody welcome to episode eighteen of the gold standard podcast. I'm rob stats. Guerrero alongside me as always is levin black and lebanon. Today's a good day. Always a good day when you get to talk to a member of the all decade team from the nineteen nineties four time pro bowler the forty niners. All time sack leader. Mr brian young brian. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you for having. It's a thrill to be a part of your programming in looking forward to the next hour or so and just to go behind the curtain. A little bit here. I reached out to brian about a week ago and he said that he would love to do it in. Come on he was all for it. And we're so grateful. And i gotta tell you i was a little nervous because we were a week away and i have talked to a lot of athletes in the past who say that. They'll do something and then a week later something comes up or something happens and you don't hear from them. Sure enough at eight o'clock right when you were supposed to come on. Get a message from you. That you are all in unbelievable work by appreciate up trying to be matama word It's not always a meet. The request of many you know i've had the reverse happened to me where how committed to a show and and the date shows up. I get no call. No email to for the link so happens you know trying to be minimal word and meet someone to requests for sure. I guess i'll start with a simple one. That i always like to ask defensive lineman who is the one guy when you were playing that you wanted to get a hit on it. I feel like i might know the answer. Just based on the history of the niners back then but who is the one quarterback. You always wanted to get to all of them all of them for sure but you know often the the ones you saw often those who wanna get to most and then those that were in the your your conference as well like the green bay's brett farr was always one. That was really crafty. can really elusive a better than you want him to be. You got great legs but can escape and so you definitely want to get him down and get a good on. But i'll. I'll say all the quarterbacks anytime we get a chance to rush the quarterback you wanna make sure you get a hit on each one of them. I have always wanted to ask you this because you get drafted in nineteen ninety four and you go to the super team the team. That's all business. They're mad because the cowboys have beaten them. Two straight years. Jerry rice's on a mission. They're signing everybody in free agency like you come in as a rookie. Did you have any idea what you were getting into. At that point. I had an idea for sure. I knew that this was a really good team is not often to be drafted that high and go to a good team and so i was one of the very fortunate ones the blast one assay to be able to be in a like that and so I knew what was at stake a new that coming in at seven pig my services were required are the year really the big free agency year in things took off in a lotta guys were required all season and we had a good draft and so the guys that were drafted in gaza came as free agents along with the gaza have already been there You know we were. We were needed at each position. Every guy was accountable and so that was a role to play for you guys so i was. I was a very very excited about the role that i had and And men just took off you know. We had a really good start. Had a bump in a road against philli and then things turn a force against detroit and and interesting history. We take a big run. And then we're gonna play often. We went to super bowl and so it was a thrill a great ride And so just honored to be a part of that team. You mentioned the philly game. Let me just jump in real quick levin. Sorry to jump you. Steve young always talks about that game because he gets pulled by seaford and he has said that he wanted to fight. Somebody on the sideline when that happened. Do you remember that. And do you remember how histov steve young was at that point. Oh absolutely i think we lost like forty something. Maybe three or something like that. Twenty one to three something crazy like that but it was the game. was outreach. you know we came off a bye and you think we'd be rested but we just we just for some reason they can click. No silly they prepared you know they. They made way more plays than we did that day. And there was just a frustrating day for everybody. But for steve young to be the quarterback and not be able to finish the game in that manner To have some five even though the game was lopsided still wanted to be there have a fighting chance but because again it was it was outta reach. I think Pulling him and being smart not getting them Hurt was was the best thing to do. Think george made the right call net. Steve was pretty frustrated by that. And and who wouldn't want to be in there you know you don't want to come out and and you wanna fight. Which brother stood of bitter. In no matter how lopsided scores now some. I've always wanted to ask you. You won the super bowl in your rookie year. It was the niners fifth super bowl win in twelve years. Were you able to fully appreciate that super bowl. I would assume you taught you had to have. You're going to win more in your career. And you know never really materialized so as a rookie where you're able to really take all that in you know a did and this is no comparison but in some regarded as somewhat. Is you know A know the stakes are a lot higher in the nfl and we got a chance to play for championships in college in new stake and knowing that everybody each week were coming for us and and so your best was needed and so we play long seasons. I felt like In college prepared me for a long season and the plate At a championship caliber of play and so Coming in yard knew what was at stake knew what what what had been lost in previous years And so. I didn't have the struggle but i can appreciate what the struggle was as understood the magnitude of in the Of that year. And so yes. I do appreciate it because played guys. That did not have a chance to go to a super bowl. I rickey jackson You know we had a great career and you know it was his first super bowl in many other guys so i didn't take that for granted just knowing what was a stake knowing that you can play your whole career. Never get a chance opportunity to play in the super bowl so i didn't take for granted i definitely appreciated that year But in the same regard You hope every years that way and you have a chance to go back and repeat what she the success. You had a first year but he quickly found out is pretty tough know and so But definitely i do appreciate it. So before that game. Supposedly jerry rice and dion. Sanders had a little bit of a conversation before the super bowl. Some people say that they came to blows. Some people say didn't get that heat in a long time ago since one thousand nine hundred four bryant you can tell us the truth did jerry rice and dion sanders fight before the super bowl. They did not physically fighting however there were some words exchanged i will. I think this is well documented. You know You know. Jerry felt like He put his neck on the line to extend a curfew a week and it was a wednesday or something like that. It was a regular week at home in a curfew would have been quite different. Wouldn't have been the curfew but we're monrovia treated like a road game. But you're felt like he put his neck on an not everybody here to The the the rule and so jerry was pretty pissed off about it in the voices opinion and the voice dissipated as well and there are some words but there were no blows were exchanged That was a mutual respect. In terms of that you know you can have a disagreement but never get into a physical altercation. And so that's what you now. What was it like watching those to go at it in practice. I mean like we said it was your rookie year but you see two of the very best to ever do it going at it during practice and that was you know dionne. Mvp all that. i it was. It was something to watch Each guy were each guy was very Very critical about how they in detailed how they practice. They took their crafts. Very seriously It's it's no wonder when you look at guys. Like nigeria dion When they go out and break so many records Why they do the do the things they do when you look at what they do behind closed doors They practice you know with with a lot of With a lot of pride and so It was it was awesome the state as like that compete in practice in some friendly battles and it was iron shop iron and it was just great to see a two guys were one of the best guys that position Go at each other and make each other better. Dion only ended up staying the one year. It's it's kind of well known that he and jerry. Let's just say weren't the best of friends. Do you think they could have coexisted on the team for more than one year or do you think this was always kind of just the we're bringing in dion try and get the ring and then we'll figure it out afterwards kind of thing i think You know that season it was what it was and i think they could have coexisted. They did for year. That that those that they An ad they extending two words a ruined the relationship. But you know sometimes you you know. Brothers have disagreements and you move forward. You know you make up. And that's just what what it was at that time. And so i think had the money been right You know certainly hopefully been there if the money was right for him but he had a pretty lucrative bill to dallas and You know you had a chance to go there and pre careers. Well now. that's two hall of famers you played with. I want to talk about to other potential hall of famers likely to go in at some point that you played with later in your career. I i'll start with frank gore. You play his first three years. Where your last three years. How crazy is it to you to see him. Still out there and think he's now older than you were when you retire. I think so. This is a french sixteenth year. End so it's It's just remarkable of fried. Frank was ultra back player. You know as young as he was coming into in a lake he you know he was. A girl by clara wasn't Anything fancy about his game he grind. He was always grinding worked hard. He cared about what you know. What was what was important. And he asks the questions. is so it's no. It's no wonder that he's one. Plan this long in into Just you know still having a will to get it done so that got care so much about The game So much respect for game and he just you just lost the game in the allows plan. So i'm happy for A great teammate. A wish we have many more years together So i'm just really throw for for him in what he's been able to accomplish having you talk about. I was gonna jump ben row. Quick just the other one who you played. Your final year was his rookie year. And you could potentially be famers in the same classes as you're both semi-finalists i wanted to ask you. What was your first. Impression of patrick willis when he showed up Just an awesome talent. I mean just the guy that was just freakish. The nature fast Could cover your number three receiver He did make the Hit on he can make your right if you were. You know the gap and so Just a really talented guy And so you know. Patrick was So talented you know. I think you know coming in his first year You can you can see him trying to assert put himself in make himself a one of those long term players in the staple for the organization so he came in or part what he was asked to do and did it. Well in the man wouldn't exciting player to watch this wish. I have many more years with them. But the low plan with them had a great career and a moving forward for sure so as levin mentioned you are a semi finals for the pro football hall of fame. Like what is that like. Do you think about it or do you at this point. Now you've been here before so you're just waiting for the process to to move along It's it's quite an honor. I won't take it for granted at all You know to be in this position Not only once but not my second. Time is a sema foulis Took a while to get to this place in the know if it ever happened in hope. Does you know muslim ford. When i just have so much respect a regard for was that came before me other pave. The way to pioneers of the game The one who set the precedence of for each position it was just a quite an honor to be mentioned in the same breath as wanted. What the guys who are in this list currently in the guys that are have already been enshrined to be able to to be mentioned in a possibly a candidate to be trying to now saying that's is quite an onerous. I'm i'm in. I'm in shock and awe and this honor to be artists. This group in this franchise now having been semi finalist. Before do you. Do you have any sense of feeling almost helpless in trying to get yourself actually in the door as a hall of famer sodas. I would assume pretty much anybody that gets to the point. Where there are semi-finalist. They're already a great player and they would have to think they're deserving so but at the same time you don't really get to be part of the process. Do you have any sense of being helpless. In it you do get you do have a sense of being held helpless and and So you hope that your body working and what you did on feel Was enough and sometimes you know. People don't take into consideration some of the other things that people don't put as much importance on. And so those things need to be talked about as mundane or important as they may seem the important things need to be talked about when you have people that can advocate for you in that regard Your appreciative that because sometimes the important things can get lost and we have people that make those arguments in make. Bring them up. You see why you know some people that took a while for them to be where they are are war to be in a position to be enshrined so You know like. I said. I wish every person that's as partisan list In there will deserve in if it happens for me. It wasn't just because of me was soak many of the people that were part of this process although i did the work But certainly you know So many people supporting helped me along the way. And they're part of this whole thing as well so If it happens for me they're part is whole do. What are those important things that you would want. That advocate to mention a. You know just when you look at You know just the the hard down you know how you played. The run fit in iran to allow other players to make the plays. They're supposed to keep the guys. On the line of scrimmage and allow the safety or a linebacker or the corner to be a nurse it as opposed to being a freelance player. You know believe in being effective in and taking a shot at times but but being disciplined with the scheme of defense. And i think you look at it that way not only plan that way but also just the dirty. Play the the hard down. Just fight net fighting a double team and things like that those things though notice at times and then you look at the balance between rushing the passer and plant iran. You know I don't think you know that plan is. It's probably not as sexy as as as russian a passer. We know that sex. You know they tracked the those are the moneymakers That's important but you know you got to stop the run to rush the passer. And i think that's just as important so those things need to be talked about The balance you talk about you know just the complete player you wanna. You wanna make sure that the argument is therefore is the player as one-sided player or is impactful in both ways to run in the past in the first second third down player in doesn't impact game Both manners i used to work with a guy at nbc. Chris simms who always talks about. How especially defensive tackles but alignment in general can do a million things and basically he called it. F- the whole play up a not get a single stats on the stat sheet when someone looks at your career and sizes bryan young hall of famer. Well he had eighty nine and a half sacks and he made four pro bowls. That is such a small part of your career. How do we evaluate defensive. Lineman and guys like you because that doesn't tell how good of a player you are just by looking at saxon pro bowls doesn't i don't think it paints the whole picture. And and sometimes does not always the case and that's not always It doesn't all the pro bowl doesn't always. Id the the season that you had in. Sometimes it's not it's a little misleading and of again that's not to take anything away from their other players that that may be deserving And then you look at how how it's voted on and then sometimes the season it plays incident. You know when you're out there front and then the team is doing well. You know puts you out there a little bit more and so you have a microphone. Interface you're more visible in the attention. Is there and so those things are into. You have to be taken into consideration and then you know for me. As as a as a as a former player. I wasn't the most boisterous guy out whether not say a word. And just whip your tail the whole game and you come after the game of say manggarai game as opposed to trash talking and tell you what i'm gonna do and don't do thing so i'm a i'm a wall quietly. Would a big state and earn respect after earn respect during the course of the game and shake cigarette game now. I did want to ask while we're talking about hall of fame type stuff with you. Being a semi-finalist with patrick willis would mean to you to go in with another player who played their entire career with the forty niners. That does that mean a heck of a lot or just got you just want to get in. You know what it would be great if if that happened that way for sure For guy that. I played with for years than him to go on The success he had if it happens that way. That would be be awesome. But we we all know that don't always happen that way and so You know In due time hopefully happen for one or both of us you mentioned before about how your career is not just a credit to you. It's a credit to every coaches. You've had players teammates. I always want to ask this retired players. If you could suit up for one more game would you suit up for that game with your high school team your college team or warrior forty-nine teams man. That's a loaded question man. I mean 'cause Now i'm going to go way back. Okay well i'll say high school we. We remained the playoffs. But we were. I think we underachieve. We had some talent but we didn't some for some reason we did maximize all of our our. Our gifts on that team is so it was were. you know. Playoff team just couldn't get over the top now. College was special. Our senior class are are ninety. Four class was was so so special and man Just the relationships we had it was a it was a true. I mean this brotherhood aren't sharpening iron. And you know to this day we we stay in touch So you wish you had some of those games that you can go back and and redo over for sure that boston college game you know back in ninety three You know you wish you could do that over but you know It's a toss. We have so many great teams in san francisco as well. You know pick a year and assorted the ninety four season and we got some playoff ron's as well that you wish you can go back in play over again with those guys. That was a really nice way of not answering that question. You like that. You know you brought up notre dame i gotta ask you. A current event questioned the notre dame is very involved in. There's the whole it's a messed up season to begin with but there's a whole ohio state only has five games talking about changing the rules in the big ten so they can get the six game being the conference championship. If that were to happen they would likely get in the college playoffs at the expense of another team and team. A lot of people are thrown out. There is notre dame as a potential team that could fall out. Do you think it's fair. In that scenario for a high state to get in at six and when notre dame is tend to know if that were to happen. That's that's the hallway. And i was just talking to a friend about that the other day. Just number of games played in their the fourth seed right now and Man you know that's hard you know for a team to be ten in overseas six and all in the battles that they fought through There's gotta be a point system or high out of your way that you've got to be fair to the teams that start on time and then also you know it's no fault of those teams that started late You know that they didn't play as many games but they're doing well but at the same time you have to take Consideration you know although they can't control it they claimed however many games add But at the same time you've got to be fair to the number of games played in the number of wins so My my hat will go to notre dame for team that one or two team won the most games. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson. I while predicting demands with ease. The world is going hybrid with ibm. 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You know losing nobody to blame but yourself and and So a like the system like what they're doing now They could give each team today. A fighting chance to win a national championship as opposed to. It'd been voted on by writers and coaches. Now we don't like those ryder right there. The writers earn the good and the bad ones good. They're just generally. Do you think there are more people out there. Like notre dame or hate notre dame there you the love notre dame or view hate notre dame and. There's no in between as i could never figure it out and you know it is what it is you know. I think of the for some reason. And i'm not saying this in the haters comprising on hate that i said but when notre dame is doing well man college football is is different and that that's just a trend that i've noticed and so was just good to see notre dame having a great year credited. You know brian kelly. And his staff of for years recruiting and a culture that he's built there And then people behind us seeing. How have support the student athlete from a to z. This is a different team than when you look back. And compared to the team play alabama and the national championship game as is filled. The matchup afterward happened today on the score will be quite different in so So but my hats off to to this team and and really wishing well. Now let me ask you as somebody from the state of indiana who had multiple roommates in college from milwaukee south bend area. What's the biggest rivalry for notre dame for do do so. So purdue was in state for indiana for a minute. You know Michigan they cut ties and But the usc when that's been gone for a long time so they're number one. The usc michigan in michigan state. As well so say the longest run one is probably been uci. Believe syria aware. Those people never wanted to give the credit. They always said you know. That's the one that we always win. Who cares you know. It was always michigan or usc to them and now they kind of had a point except for a few years stretch their when drew brees playing ahead drew brees. And tell you what man it was. Drew brees was lighting up in college as now. did you just find a way to get bryant youngest. Say nice thing about like your whole goal for this for that line of question. No i actually did not expect the answer purdue. I'd like to move things over to the current. Niners if i could because the forty niners are playing washington this week and the big story line is going to be alex smith playing against his former team in the season where he's coming back from a just absolutely horrific injury and we're talking to one of the few people on the planet who actually have an idea of some of what alex smith went through because you also broke your leg. A similarly gruesome fashion. Have you had any communication with alex smith at all about that or coming back from that injury or anything Alex was Probably used a question. But i did reach out a text. incentive attacks and of course through Social media had communicated. His wife is all social media. So you know sent the message here. And there than kirkman house rooting for him But boy what a story. And i can identify with alex. A you know mine was similar but quite different. In the fact that alex had some complications in his life was endangered. Not only losing. His leg was life was in danger and so to overcome those tune in the d. warriors today. My hat is off to alex. Always knew to. Alex was one tough and In a war mentality but the siyam persevered through something like that I'm just elated. For what a what. An awesome story Just a just a comeback story. He has logo for comeback player. Two year for sure. I'll just give it to him now. Like just the even and and yeah doubt and an act number of guys that i can think of Jason barack his comeback story and him overcoming adversity and some of the setbacks he had in his career coming back planet. Great a good year in been rustler's burger do had a injury and then finished year in come back and Novel year but in that matchup alex and his team. They just did a great job in oxygene through. He tufted out as but those guys two are definitely deserving of that war but for alex is two year hap- since and then being able to come back and play the ways played. is just so phenomenal In my hats off thome. I'm rooting for him. In the again the as margot you also won the comeback player of the year award back in nineteen ninety nine. What does that award mean to you. It was more like a sensor relief to know that you got all the way back or is that like an award that you proudly display. That's up there with any other thing that you ever had in your career at this up there you know. That's that's a very important award for lots of reasons You know like. I mentioned my career was in jeopardy as well in in the had A setback i was in jeopardy of losing malaysia as well and so hasn't complication does in hospital for seventeen days and in again. Nothing like alex an infection in almost you know losing his life but certainly did have some some complications but to overcome that In rehab in all season and do some of the things that that really tested you know my my will play in my love for the game is an award that i hold up in high regard for any of the national awards for lower reasons for that. And then you know to just For all that you put into the game to overcome adversity and so it's As one that that i really is important to me and and saw never forget that award so absolutely That award in high regard sore people say oh. Bright young had a broken leg. He came back. Alex smith comes like for us. You're gone and then you come back but can you give people an idea of what you actually go through to get from the point where you're injured this injury and then you actually get back on the field like. I don't think people fully understand what you have to go through to get to that point. Yes so we mina had two hip fracture it and so So the debt night hosts pose surgeon next day and then had The be rushed to emergency surgery to take care of some of the elevated pressure My leg after the surgery so that they had a titanium titanium rod certainly my tibia in that state in there. That couldn't get that out a plate with that a- malate for for nine years that day is still in there And so two to not be able to walk for almost four months Kinda relearned you know some of those things some of the basics. Balancing all those things you know. It was pretty gruesome Just challenge me every day to the core Just some of the things that have to do. Indoor really was hard you know a lot of people That's not to take away from any anything From other injuries but you know other people go through some similar things but to have one the have that type of pain and then to the to have that type of rehab in it was not for the faint of heart for sure and Definitely tested My love for the game. You know my pride For sure it was a challenge for me I'd say you know having a supporter of the fans my team-mates for shore and then wanted to be interested in the locker room. it was. It was definitely motivation for me. And i had a great support system in my family as well so But it was a lot that went into that you know. It was a long process and quite frankly when i came back i went from november. Twenty eighth thanking november thirtieth or. Something like the to not playing anything away till the first week of that next season against jacksonville and so It was it was born to me not not having any preseason or any practice live in having one practice before aguado play. Live action game So i was real. You know kind of timid attender still learning in a little. Shell shock so. There's a lot of things that had the cup overcome only physically but the mental aspect of it Just to make sure that you know when a plant in cut it was gonna be okay. But i was around with tile. If i got touched i was going to be okay. as a lot went into that just the mental and the physical rehabilitation but really didn't start filling like myself into midway through season Have off to okay start. I would not a great star And then hit another geared the second half of the year and not s. When i really felt like myself in that first year back and so But to be able to win comeback player of the year and come back and play at a high level after a pretty bad injury like that l. So much wanted to that in the honor to be able to Come back and play the way i did. You are on the team in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. It was the year after the catch to the teams coming off at twelve and four year. Expectations were sky high. And then steve young gets hurt and everything. Kinda crumbled without the quarterback. So that kind of parlays into this year steam with the niners were expectations. Were sky high. Jimmy's been hurt and so as a player in the locker room. What is it like when your quarterback goes down. it's It's tough you know when when your quarterback is obviously out. You know as opposed to a sprained ankle. He's gonna be out for two three weeks but when he's out is i ocean okay. Let's let's hope that you know this guy that we brought in you know he's up for the task and It's it's you know it's quite different and so you you don't lose hope but but when you try to remain hopeful and for sure you that's why you have depth but certainly i think for jeff You know it was a learning curve for him in that first year when he came in and played and but when he got speed under in the in the negro that offense and he started owning it it was quite different there on out so this year forty niners happened to take defensive tackle in the draft to find kinlaw. Some people are critical of him. But i think he's looking better and better each week when you see the niners. Take a d. tackle in the first round your years. Kind of perk up a little bit and you kind of keep an eye on them you know. What do i look for any any tackle. That goes hi. I'm like okay. That what what is this young man and but certainly You know. I think he's had a good year and he's he's been gradually getting better He's a different player. Is not is not a aaron. Donald in terms of his twitchy nece his quickness. He's a strong player. A little bit of stryer he's got linked And so he's really. He's really finding his his niche in the game. And i think each week he's got better as some players. They develop at a different pace than others. And i think It'll be better for having gone through a year like this and You know looking forward to to what he what he what he do in this In his in his career now the guy who is supposed to be next to him has been out with nick bozo. Who wears your number. How much as a defensive tackle does that having a dominant defensive end help. Somebody like kinlaw is a rookie. Think thing have dominant inside. Guy helps an edge player if he asked me because now the revert because you could be a great outside rusher. But you're if you got if you've got a quarterback that stepping up in a pocket in that middle pressures changing right that fence line in the middle is not being pushed back That edge rusher is going to have a hard time. You know winning over top because this by step up be comfortable undocked. The ball downfield. Whatever and so. I think a good inside player can make a good outside player. Better you know it can make his job easier. When you got good inside pressure in guidance as dominant that could push the pocket. You don't have to be fancy dominant but you have to be effective push. Pocketing didn't That quarterback off the spot to move to the side to step step back a little further but don't allow them to step in the pocket. But i think a good inside. I can make a Quite frank quite frankly. Even better for sure yeah. How many times did we see that last year where both our ford would come flying off the edge. The quarterback tries to step up. And there's deforest buckner just as a giant wall there in the pocket just utterly collapses. Yeah i mean you. You have to twin towers and you go back to last year. The twin towers. And you know. They're effective inside at quarterbacks he's like he's you stand back at his drop spot or he's gonna be trying to bail to his left or right there when we have good insight that can take advantage of those opportunities. You know that that's a good front plan right there. Take us back to this spring when you heard deforest buckner trade news. What was your reaction when you heard that. He was actually being traded. Surprised but i understand surprise in the fact that a thought he'd be a guy that would be Potentially get a long term deal But i can understand. Be the business side of you know. Having a guy was two guys are coming up on long-term deals a multi Multi-year deals and says like how do you. How do you strike the balance while you can value in a trade and then you can go get a a younger less expensive a defensive player But but for sure make sure you know he's as or better than what you're trading away and so But no one expected injuries that they would have this year. Losing their ends in both bosa thomas and then D ford as well. Now i don't wanna put you on the spot. But i'm gonna put you on the spot 'cause doing i'll give you the out if you want the out but if you're the niners what would you do next year for order back. You know. that's a really good question My autism not the not the coach of methods. Yeah but see the fact that you didn't answer the question right away. the answer. no no. Here's you know what i'm gonna tell you like this. A healthy garoppolo rob lowe. A healthy forty nine or team is a winning team. It's a winning team. So i think i'm not sure what his record is know as a starter But certainly he's been healthy He's been effective and he's he's one In some think otherwise. A is time for them to move milan from him. But i think You gotta you gotta see were he is after he comes back and he's healthy and then make a decision from there. I think it's i mean it's obvious that quarterback has treated different from other positions right. If you're a defensive tackle and you're either struggling to play well or struggling to stay healthy. They replace you. It's not a big deal. they bring somebody in. They'll work is out during the week. And bring it in sir. If you're a quarterback all well we we. We don't treat that like other positions. We can't just replace you. You know just like that and we got to have a couple of meetings about it got to be a ton of media speculation if it was any other position on the field. I don't think there would be a question of whether or not to change your back. Absolutely because they're there's so much stop that goes into that position like this guys like you studied as guys is heated to lead your team. Not only from you know personality standpoint but most important a talent standpoint is a good leader on the field goal. Make plays that that he's supposed to make you want him to make in that offense and so Yeah the whatever was sexy about him you know when you brought him in and you if you paid them you know those those hopes are still alive. So there's that there's that hope still that drive you to say keep amana. We still believe in this guy but You know some people live by the or die. Brought ashore while bryant. We don't want take up too much time. We could keep you all night if you would if you let us but We'll let you go before we do. We just want to mention we want. Thank you very much for your time. 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Episode 181 - An Evolved View of Product Owners From Eric Hannan

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Episode 181 - An Evolved View of Product Owners From Eric Hannan

"I don't know what i'm saying. Narrow minded recollection. Exactly exactly. Welcome to the inter josh anderson. I'm bob galen yeah s tres. Boys and girls fathers and mothers dogs and cats. We've got a special guest today. Day day gives us a tease. Just say hello bob. hello bob. that's him onto the episode. Welcome to the medifast. I'm josh anderson. And i'm bob jalen and we have a special cast. We do could could voice come from the top okay so for for for those of you know. Everyone did listen to the previous episode. Yes we were talking about product owners and twenty twenty. How they've evolved over time. How our views have evolved on product owners. Bob just gave me the finger. And i brought up. A friend of ours was doing some pretty cool things with product owners and the role and how they were doing. I did a poor job. I think reacted really well. I was like a dog with a bull. so go cannon. The third voice that you hear is a friend of ours who was doing some cool stuff with product owner. Have absolutely boy. bob changes tune. No no i respect eric. For god's sakes. Eric has some notes that he may bring up. Bit later about wherever loads. Okay so eric was doing some cool things with product owners. He shared something with me. I tried to share it with bob in our product owner episode. I don't think i did a good job explaining it. So i said hey. We need to get eric in here to actually share the facts. Rather than me like paraphrasing and doing the telephone game and getting it wrong so he's here to educate some so on the evolution of product owners. This is a three way today. Yes it is it is we. We hardly ever have a three way. I know there have been like five in the entire history in like one hundred and eighty episodes. For god's sakes we're evolving. We're getting better. I think evolution is a word that will be consistent in today's keep grinding. Well and the reason is bob had some. How would you turn. Those arcades is critical critical. Fashion would facts okay out of. Wow seen perhaps elucidate. Maybe i was talking about the declaration of independence or something like that and i confused it with product owners. Maybe maybe okay so you did say your thoughts and young. Yeah okay so. I'm going to lay the groundwork then. I'll pass it off to you eric to elaborate on what i've done wrong or fix or anything so we're going exploring. Yeah yeah so. We're going to dig in and talk about their. There are other ways to do. The product owner role in air quotes as we've learned as we've grown and and as organization evolves. This is not something you should do with the brand new organization. That is not quite ready for yet. Ooh as eric maybe ponders yeah. So let's see. Maybe i shouldn't have sought to meet product owner but remember the last time we were also doing Like what's on your mind. It's twenty twenty. So i'm thinking like half the episode. We allow eric to pummel me right and and retire me We have some passionate whatever debate discussion but then maybe we open it up and get out of product owner land a little bit and see what's while he's here he had his mind on. What like what's what. What are you feeling about twenty. Twenty agile twenty twenty yeah patterns you like anti patterns. That have been around for a time. Would that be alright. Yeah there is definitely more to eric product owners. I know that. I know that's a great point. I'm so excited are cool okay. So let's dig into the product. Okay do you want me set the stage. You just want to run with it. Run with it. he's kind of. He's kind of an answer right. Do you want and then you answered. He's got a list. she's feeling is going to happen hard today. Yeah everybody's aware. Like oh this poor guy notes to get lost in the words that come. Okay so i am going to turn off bob's mike. While while you started talking i can do that. Okay eric the floor is yours. Well i guess the first thing i want to say is. This wasn't my idea. Loan like i did have a great team. That was working at trans. Look at the time so shout to them. I have the names. But i won't even drop because that would get cut anyway so there are a couple of problems we're trying to solve when we came up with this idea. One of the things that we saw we really wanted to get our peos or pm's wartime with the customer in the market. Bob just let the guy titles. I turned his microphone now. So he's moved distraction. He's he's so uncomfortable with somebody having airtime he's holding the space for me in a very. Yeah it is not a safe space. Yeah i think. I just made that up okay. It'll work that's fine anyway. Sounds good so we're trying to solve. We really wanted to get our pm's more time with the customer in the market. There's a lot of inside work which is obviously necessary and things that need to be done. We also saw a handoff between the peos and pm's and of course lean thinking men there. Anytime we see handoff waste. What can we do to many waste. And then the third thing that we saw this wasn't anything any bathroom with appears at all but we saw a lot of engineering teams. Going to the pm's because they want to learn more about the long-term vision. Where's this product going. What are the customer saying. Where's the market going and that's really a attributed to the type of engineers that gb hired. He did a great job of hiring those so we saw so many things happening and we said man. What is something that we could do. Could you make the distinction between pm. Peo- yes just just so in the context that you're talking to that so it's a pretty traditional split of pm's were responsible for the long-term vision more market development custom development. That kind of thing peos had more the short short-term vision so the three to six months you know how do i execute on that long term strategy so product manager external sort of product owner internally facing with some collaboration between them proper. Okay cool so. The idea came out of a group discussion one day. What happens if we would actually conflict the pm roll into single role in lvad engineer teams into the promises. So giving our pm's more time to actually get out into the market talk with customers due to market development. The competitive analysis do that kind of thing. Could we actually did that. Could that be an experiment that we could run and a couple of things that we knew that we would have to think about. One is okay if we're going to do that. Teams are going to slow down. We're adding work to their thing. So posses is gonna take it to right now. All we really have is a creation tracking feeler scrum. Track like we're doing scrum but we now need to add in some of these products these product discoveries you. Us research some technical. Discover that kind of thing. So we ended up doing was we. We did that. Inflation of the po. To the pm roles they became. Pm's we elevated the team and then we created what we call a dual track a dual discovery creation track. So while we're also developing. We were working on product scoring for the next thing coming up so the team was involved in the product. Discovery was the rise into that. Look ahead roughly. Yeah we. I would say probably probably three to six months okay. So it wasn't it wasn't like a sprint horizon. it was. It was like a three to six months horizons. Okay yeah we would've tried to keep a pretty decent backlog so we willis coming up. We wanted to give time for for the product story to happen to talk to customers. Talk to internal customers all the things that you'd have to do for a good release so if i said you got rid of you aggregated. Pm peo- role and they became trying to clarify like night. Parts of the role to the team inherit so peos became full. Pm's and the pm did nothing in the product. Space in the teams became a full fledged product under enroll. Or was there some. I'm trying to tease was overlap. I would say there is overlap right. It wasn't wasn't. We completely eliminated the po role. Because that means to your point that is dangerous but some of the things just taken from the scrim guy. This is actually from your article that you wrote on product management fellow clearly. Well this is actually shape from the scrum guide. So cool so this is going to be strong okay. Some of the other things they only know. I'm not gonna well. Actually i might go ahead. So appeal should clearly express product backlog items. We felt that was team. Should absolutely be able to do that. Order the items in the product backlogged best achieve goals emissions. This was turned into more of a collaboration. So we did. Discoveries teams would actually write stories right individual stories with acceptance criteria in collaboration with the product owner or the product manager. Excuse me And they would work on. What is the priority. So again it was. It was a big collaboration ensuring the value. The work developed team performs again. Because we're doing the product discovery. That was a joint effort. It was a team responsibility. Not solely a product owner responsibility so like sign off would be a team. Is that what we're like. There's a confirmation of value received right so team would confirm the value. The team would confirm the value and they would. They would still work with the product manager on that to make sure that we're missing anything. Worry about if. I can separate it. Right i confirm it. There's no separate and not that. I don't trust your team. But i would want an external voice in that. Okay go ahead. Oh he's into the notes with deep cuts on bob. Now these are just again. This is all got stuff in conversation about. I appreciate the clarity. You didn't are not picking on you know. I know i did a terrible job trying to explain this. That's why i'm trying. I'm trying to figure out what they were doing. Welcome to our diversity and inclusion minutes coal. We hear the king of kings of smooth transition transition. It's amazing we should do this for you. Wanna go first. You go first. You go first. You're already talking. So i don't have something i've done. Well i mean i'm i. This is like a prayer prayer thing. So i've been medicare's if you've been involved you know that i'm supporting a group in nigeria. That's teaching young ladies over there. They just they just finished their boot camp. They just graduation and someone got a job. I think at least one person got a job in the and these are for young women and that society who are entering the workplace so it was really exciting But i don't know if you heard that there was. There was a the young folks over there. Were having a Demonstration and the police in the military came up and was shooting at people and they killed them. And this is just. This was like three or four weeks ago and this is just in the news. Now so i think i mentioned it in cast but my heart is getting into that In fact one one young man. Who was helping this this girl that i work with this lady that i work with over there. He was killed he. He was doing like her marketing or something like that and he was killed. They were just shooting people. They were peacefully demonstrating and they just shot at them. So medicare's if there's anything you can do We talk about what josh and doing. If we can not lose sight of what's going on in nigeria. It's to it's twenty twenty and twenty twenty. One and peaceful demonstrations are getting shot and killed. And that's just unacceptable so anything you can do like post about it Check into a contribute to it but pray for for those folks over there. It's i sometimes don't realize how hard the world is. Sometimes i looked at the us and it's like our elections and things are hard people losing their lives around the world. So so that's what i've got so don't don't lose sight of africa of what's going on in nigeria. Yes so i just finished the so you want to talk about race book and it took me way longer than it should have but i really recommend that everybody read that or listen to it however you choose to consume books because it does talk about the privilege that we often so rarely value and understand the difference that it has made and it is an eye opener of a book for many reasons than one of the things. One of the chapters was about the intersection. -ality which is interesting term and the real challenge that women of color have people of color have a problem women of color. Have it even worse and how that even becomes a problem of like well. Hey were all black or we're all whatever and like. Hey we're all wrestling with the same thing. Well no like. I've got this and this and it's and it's hard and it's potentially harder so awareness of that. I recommend that book enough. It's it's making the rounds in my family. I just talked to my sixteen year old daughter. And i told her like you have to read this. My oldest son will be reading it soon. probably the next couple of years. She's like fourteen. So i'm going to let them understand the world a little bit better before hannam that book but it's but it's close. It's something that they need to understand. So the younger generation is more aware of that which is good. Thanks to social media. There's some good stuff that social media creates. It's not all good but i think that's something that it has educated the younger generation beyond just the school. They go to or the city that they live in because they see across the entire world is so there's that Last thing is i'm excited about the real changes that were making our hiring process to try and create more diversity in our company that like it. It's a thing. It's like a requirement for us where we are trying to drive changed with like this is not good enough. So there's there's there's good movement there that i am excited about so if if you're hiring talk to your hr partner or consultant or whoever it may be and just say. How can we get better at hiring more diverse candidates and it takes a lot more than that. Because i've been talking about this for months now and we have been very intentional about it but we're not there yet so like strap in get ready to roll because it's going to be battled but that's that's something that you can drive change if you're willing to to dedicate yourself to it very cool. Let's get back to the episode. Let's can i ask a question. Just like a foundational question. What was the problem. you're trying to solve with it. Sound like they were handful of things going on some positives that came out of it. Like what was the thing where you and your team said. We gotta fix this. I would say disempowered product owners where we had teen team members of very well intentioned in meaning going to pm's to get the long-term vision which rendered the product owners powerless and relegated. just advent of the backlog. I hear the stories that we have to do. Here's the order that we're going to do it in. No real are not not real no not a lot of ownership and autonomy the that they were doing so decided. Okay well how can we change this systematically so that we can see more empowerment autonomy and thus we came up with what if we can fleet the pm role and elevate the team into the problem. Space see i can see that. I didn't hear that when i explained when you to three hundred bucks. You're allowed to know i do all the but i didn't hear that that actually makes sense. I mean i've seen that problem a lot. I mean you had a choice. You have a choice of fixing it. Whatever that means right like empowering the peos and changing the system dynamics that way But also this is an interesting you could aggregate the roles and just make the team a little bit and and that to me would be a fair changes. Well now i get now. I get that cool. I like the congruent nature of that which is saying project product managers. Now take on the right you you own you own your this carrot caretakers vision anyway. So that's that's called the way it is an yeah. It sort of puts a little bit of a burden on them from from a system change perspective like a loose self-awareness thing on them. What what didn't work with this change or was it wonderfully magical any like we should have done this years ago. And here's why. I ask because there have been times where something like spotify comes out and people like we're doing spotify woo. They dislike blindly adopt things without really understanding it or really knowing what that means and the changes that they introduce into their system and like things get worse so there's a potential that somebody could. Here's like that's great idea. And it is a good idea but your organization has to be ready in healthy enough to make this happen so i wanna give people potential pitfalls potential challenges to this approach. So that if you decide to go in this direction your eyes wide open and not like this is like nirvana and nothing's ever gonna wrong when you know. Yeah that's a great question. So i think some of the things that we had to do one is we had to change the he volve the thinking of the development team that you're not just there to write code but you're there to solve problems and i really give jamie howard a ton of credit for how he hired engineers there he often would say. I'm not paying. Could i'm paying you to solve problems. And part of that. Solving problems looks like talking to customers. Going on customer visits doing your calls that kind of thing so broadening the scope of what. It means to be an engineer. Something we had to to teach we had to reinforce we had to make the budget for. Because if you're going to go visit customers you have to have the budget to people to do that. I think the other thing that i mentioned to is that slowdown in philosophy right. We had to educate the the business that. Hey we're making this change. We're gonna run this discovery creation track. Which of course. We didn't use those words but that means we're going to slow down a little bit because we're adding more work but the payoff is. We're going to have more more richer. Solutions which is great grammar. Authority was gonna. Hey you should hear some of the stuff that's is arma. You've listened so question that you're saying business were slowing down that often creates chaos and panic but you obviously had the partner that with like. Here's what you get that more richer thing. did that. Become a reality where you felt like the teams delivered a better product in my biased breen. Maybe revisionist history. I would love to say that we did. I know customer experience oftentimes to say. Hey you guys even know what our customers student now. The use the software. And i believe i heard less and less than that as these changes to cold. Okay so so that is a measure that you could do. Does your customer facing support team. Feel like you've built a product that more in sync with the user's needs and they get fewer and fewer calls about what the hell is this week long. I mean part of yep. Puerto ricans like how long it takes time. So what was the duration of this roughly just like holders or something. Yeah that's a good question. I would say we probably started this year to that. I was there and it was still going when i left two years later. So it's a two year so it's not a short duration. It's not a short duration and a lot. I mean this was all. Yeah so my reaction is almost like measure that over. Yeah we'll right. Yeah gen right just for learning curve and things like that if you're looking at customer support because that's the end of the tail. Yeah like a lagging metric. Yeah gotcha okay okay. So what other things in my notes. That i took and as i was thinking about this last night typing furiously as i recall the words. Some of bob's harsh words can we stop and crap. Yeah can we revisit. Some of those arrows that were slung your way he said no. He did preface it thing that this is all in love. But you're full of crap. He does that all the time. I had some loving crap thrown at it was it was steaming he He was like a dog with a bone that didn't want to give up the idea that he was right now. It was wrong and that i had a narrow view of product who while. I don't think that i actually spent time as a product owner while point in my career. Wow gosh say ma'am. I mean listening to to use reactions and you can hit me with. It's not. I don't wanna get too narrow view. Were or anything I didn't understand what you were doing. So now i do know i still have a worry i have. I have a twofold worry It's not judging. Let's say out of you know you do this so it's not pointing you have your own success right. You're in the context. But they'd say there's ten thousand people listening to this and ten thousand people did exactly the same thing. Sure so what would be concerned. Because you had you had the one concern. I have is not fixing the product owner product manager. Embrace your roles the way you should. We're going to write. We're gonna complaint the roles and do something else is so you could have. You could have fit not not you. But in general there is an option to to empower the product owner role. Yes right to empower the product overall. I i mean. I've seen in the entire world. I've seen that anti pattern but there are product owners in the world that are fully empowered and have a chris partnership of their product manager and their teams. Look at them as like there is not this skip skip level thing they look at that they're they're they're both sharing the vision they're both driving the vision And you xs happening. There and look ahead is happening there with the team so you could have taken that approach right or other people could take that approach. It's like so. I'm not suggesting not fix it or not. Adjust so so that thing And then the other concern. I have is i think i was talking about. This is just I i i was talking testers so i wasn't just talking about proud this notion of professionalism in the role what we're doing in you even you know like you. X is a discipline. I some of the best. You x folks. I've met i've done it for like ten years. I remember one lady who maybe territories even hired her. I forget her name But she had a phd user into designed. This is what she did. She was a professional. Should need to customer interviews. They had skills around that. It's a broad row. It's deep real. That's a profession development profession right back right testing profession product profession. And i i. I worry when when we ask a team to a win you're going to be the product owner so you're going to become product literate. It's not even just over work. Do they have the. Are they going to be the best damn products. There's this excellence of craft excellence of profession and we'll teams have duality of that doesn't make sense to do that. I've done something unintentionally similar but the key requirement. Who were the engineers was. We had to hire very intentionally with that mindset. And the time. I did it. I hired people that i had hired before so i knew their mindset was there and they already. They wanted to work like that. So i think you can do this with the right engineers. I think the hurdle is the larger you are the harder it will be to continually fine engineers. That operate like that. Now the larger you are. There's also a system that they plug into and they see. This is how it works. So i would be nervous about going big with this but if you do it well big than that engineer. That comes in is gonna look around like okay. This is how we do it. And just plug in and change their mindset and get rolling but it is. It's harder a think there's value in it. So it's one of those. Like you know casey at bad it's like you gripped bad and you swing and if you hit you knock it out of the park. But there's potential for a swing and a miss and there's a handful of variables if you think you have all those variables under control. I think you a little bit i. I'm with what you guys are saying. Yeah but then what are you what are like i have that joke your manager. You're a scrum master. You're a team member and you're tester. What are you right right. you're not you can't be all of those things. I out quiz you in all four of those areas and you will fail. You'll be mediocre mediocre. Maybe above average maybe mediocre. Because i'm 'cause my bar is the profession is the excellence of each one of those roles right so so when you're deluding yourself. What are you so what are those folks. Are they product owners or are they developers. What what. What do they learn. Where what do they have an affinity. For what books do they read. Write what technologies to they. Keep like i want people and misses a dinosaur arguably this is dinosaur view. I guess but. I want people to say i am this. Yeah right i'm not right. This is the core of the t shaped you know. What i'm this is i can do. I can wash cars i can. I can do little carpentry. Put fish food into in the jar but this is what. I have an affinity for right and i'm always going to be reading books in this area. This is where my passion is. And and what we're saying is i am. I am a deaf dipoto. Right i think the and i want you to. I want you to argue back in. I think for them. I've just i wanted identity. I want them to have. This is what i do. I'm sure refreshing live right. What i found is there are engineers who don't just wanna sling code. They want to deliver solutions to customer and they feel they do a better job the closer they are to the problem. They get frustrated when that problem is over there or somebody is being this. Translation layer. nobod- dude. I'm with you. Yeah so i am. Not saying coats on your professional development is very broad. But we're calling the modesto you right. No i wanted to develop. so what. what are they gonna come back to my question for both of you. What are they are. They a deep developer or the product owner. Are they both. What are they and on. Thomas superficial about a kick ass product owner whatever that kick ass developer which never never stops in a kick ass kicked developer. It does i them to do what. You're talking about not solutions. I don't want code writers. I want solution but kick ass pm. So i think. I have a frame for that for what you're saying and i'm really glad you brought that up the way that i framed it as i was thinking about this last night. And actually this is. We're doing a little bit of shift of this. In my current company to is the words that i've uses shifting from development teams to product teams so her historically a lot of the product work is usually usually is a strong word. I'm stereotyping realize it's not true everywhere. So let me say that before you get a whole bunch of responses but a lot times the product work is done in a black box. It's done outside of the teen right. And even up gaylon said this quadrant is truly externally facing either toward internal stakeholders or towards the outbound customer. Nowhere in this quadrant. That i speak about the agile or scrum team. This was bob swertz. What i'm what i'm proposing is effort by the way expected not easier than it went back in. What i'm proposing is that. I i agree with you. I want professional experienced kick ass product people. I think we absolutely need them. Not turn to minimize that role at all. It's a necessary role. But what i think. We needs to evolve to is product is a team sport. Much like development has become a team sport absolutely so. That's the idea of raising the team into the problem. Space is giving them more ownership and autonomy over that area of doing the product alongside of these skilled people. So you're getting these said in presentations. I don't know if i quoted in the book you'll tell me. I talked about a product owner in a lot of conference talks. I talked about the product owner. One of their prime jobs is to create many me's on the part of the teen challenge. So what they're doing is that i want that product mindset in the team now again. They're not becoming their many product owners because they don't have the time then you don't have the time it'd probably doesn't make the investment sense to turn them into product owners. We're talking about. But having that i looked product team having that awareness having that collaborative you. We're solving so as a team with the product owner or manage involved. We're solving customer problems. Right we're providing value absolutely okay. So we're aligned. I think. I think we are and and i withdraw all of those nasty cop to lately. It's on the internet. It's been downloaded thousands of times. Yes i've written on the walls in my office. It's my fuel from that. That's really all. I was trying to get at. Is this identity thing. It's it's the identity of this pre professionals. That's not so. Would you equate it to the quality assistance evolution where people are evolving away from cody assurance where they are the gate and this is a thing similar that it's like product assistance or something like that where you have that. Really hyper highly. Skilled highly trained product person that leads the charge and help support others. That are tried to bring up the quality thing the last time because i see a lot of people firing. They're rolling qa into the team but they're rolling superficial Qa into the team and then no and they're firing everyone else so there's no one else to do it and then they're like oh cube as being done in the team. I'm like no you have a gap. Now organizationally you have a choice you can. You can choose not to fill that. But i think that's short sighted. Bryan young is one of those. So it's it's not even it's the expertise on fighting. Yeah that's that's my biggest fear with celebrating something like this which we should because it's an interesting evolution is that someone upstream says I can get rid of a role. I can save some money. I can do with correct when in reality they blindly do that and make things harder where there's so much of a system that has to be set up for this to be successful that you didn't it didn't fire people right you. You gave them a different area to focus right. Cracked is even the multitasking. I've seen years ago. It's evolved away from this. But when in the early instances of scrum product managers became product owners. So they had both roles so is overloaded role and that was just incredibly common so these poor product and and if you look at product management product management is really if you look like pragmatic marketing and the the depth and breath of the role in big companies is frigging like a lot of stuff. Yeah do pricing. You do sales programs. You do a presentation stuff. The all externally facing stuff. So it's it's time consuming and then the cobbled together now your product owner to yeah and i also worry about that overload of the so. There's a professional nature of it. But it's you want people to do it. I don't mind if you could be a pm and a po in monroe and do a kick ass job on both sides than do it. But i see so if you yeah. I'm i'm in my role. I'm actually actively doing the opposite of of this because we had a single person trying to do all these things and we just. We aren't there so we need to have distinct product manager roles and distinct product owner roles and and make that a thing over time five years from now as we evolve as an organization. There's a potential that we could get to eric and his team were. But we're we're not there yet. We are doing the opposite to make sure we have consistency and clarity and and we actually create that healthy system that you had that you could say okay. Let's fine tune this with there are so many people that aren't in the fine tuning mode. It's like we just need to do the thing and do it well. I think that's hard enough to keyword that you said there is healthy system. The system that we had there was amazing. I it was. It was one of a kind and a lot of ways and i was super lucky to have that kind of environment where we could do those kinds of experiments and see new just took out of my mouth. I was gonna say kudos to you for running the experiment right or inspiring the experiment and try and the environment was safe for that as well right so so just i mean at the end of the i mean. Forget what josh or eric. Or bob says i mean run your yes listen to this but run your run your experiments in your domain and then if it's working who gives a rat's says if it's if it's working in your environment and your and what would be working i guess producing kick ass. Eli products from a customer point of view and having a little bit of joy doing it or something like that so yeah experimental and rapidly. Yeah what what are the problems that you're facing and what are different ways you can solve. It would probably require a little courage. We don't go there to some degree as well right. It's not just we use the experiment words sort of flippantly. Sometimes but i mean you had. This was an organizational adjustment right. Yeah this was a role adjustment. So that's a courageous experiment. So i beat you up a little bit. i'm yeah nicely nicely played. Can we move onto other. Bob wants to get away from this topic so anyway this topic so bad i have never seen bob not want to talk about something like this. I'm conflict the bird. I'm just roly-poly like the teddy bear and it's christmas time. I don't want to get into. Yeah thank you eric. Jeez so glad you did that. And we're trying to the fire it also. What else twenty. Twenty twenty to twenty twenty one even doing agile for a long term use chrome guide just came out scaling patterns. You've been in a new job. Your your purview. Is changing and shifting and stuff. What's on what's on your mind. Either things that you're proud of in our evolution or things. Just stick in your crawl. I emphasize the things it sticking. We just covered that for thirty minutes. Well no but other things touches surrounded. Oh if you wanna go to stick in the craw i mean. We could reopen the internal versus external coaches. And i sense a theme here is you're not healed yet argued you've got a gaping gill and move. Then you know. I actually do think about almost every day. You're kidding me but from a good from a good perspective so let's set the stage for everybody. That's listening that wasn't in this initial conversation. The two of you had. Because i've heard about it tangentially so this is a blog post. Okay so bob. Galen the writer. Do you want to read it. I wasn't prepared for this. It's so ingrained in my memory that so what did i. What did i say is this. Is this the pickling thing you can get pickled if you're inside too long. Yeah basically said inside coaches worth. Listen not kidding. You didn't say there's a there's a danger to inside so it's the thing you become you can be simulated by the culture right and you. You were at a very visceral reaction to that. Because i've i've been an internal coach my entire career So very visceral reaction. In my i was coming back at you with will as long as you're living out of your values then you have no fear. I remember that over coffee. It was like about. And i don't remember much. I can't remember where. I put my cup of coffee. This work but i do remember that we actually had this at agile. Twenty nine hundred. Here's something we we were at the same conference. So what i think about so now in a new organization. They have a wonderful agile environment. A lot of great things going on super super proud to be there. But i think about your statement a lot because there's a lot of things that i see in terms of. Oh man we could. I could challenges. I could challenge this. I can step in here do that and really weighing the okay. That was the cause and here. But if i don't do that in my just assimilate into the culture and allowing bad behavior to go so for me it's actually. It's actually been a really nice barometer of. Should i act or should i not act m. i. acquiescing to a problem or i. Sequentially addressing the problems in a specific order so that i don't change to meetings at one time. I mean there's a lot of variables. I one of my reactions. I think when i was when i was reading in that moment i had. I had attended a coaching breakfast here. Locally and this was a long a while back and a bunch of coaches from a accompany where feeling unempowered There these were consulting coaches so these were external a consulting firm into a company. They were internal coaches. They've been there for years but the consulting company itself was putting a lot of constraints on that like what they could and could not say so. They could down but they could not coach and from their point of view most of the role should they were. They were starting to get to impediments. Where most they were that. Most of their coaching should be upward right. And they were just caught in this sort of this this problem and and And then now now the politics of it. The air or the economics of it was forcing. It was tremendously changing their coaching coaching approach. And they were sad in. This is the backstory. What i what. I just realized i was just thinking. Why are they look. They i their body. Language was heads raining down and stuff and they really sorta grousing about it and i. My heart went out to him in a classic phones rookie. Sorry exactly exactly now so that that came up with that as well as what are these dynamics that you know if you could go imperfect what there's no there's no outside forces right you go in you read you coach right and then there's that's not realistic then there's all this nuance i've been there a long time. I've established relationships are ever consulting. And what is it. Start doing to your coaching I almost think you know a change of scenery sometimes you. It's almost the same argument. Mean we make with companies. Sure right you can be i. I don't know the question is. Have you ever been with a company too long. I can safely say. I've been at a company for too long. I waited too long. I only knew that. Later on. But i hung out too long. And it's the same thing if you get immersed you start compromising things so i'm going to do a very dangerous thing. I'm gonna agree with bob that hurts to say and the reason. I the reason. I'm willing to go. There is that i have no idea what you i'm waiting for. What what do i know i know. He sent a lot there. I am agreeing about the external versus internal. I think doing both has made a huge difference. In how i approach. The i'm with you when i stepped out and became an external coach. I felt this like. Because i knew i was there for a short period of time. I had to make a difference like right now. I couldn't play the long game. And i am the master of the long game. Like that's my thing. That's what i do. I say i'm like erosion i'm gonna win eventually right. Just you might not even know it but over time things are going to change. And that's the typical approach that i take but becoming an external coach. Change that for me and that has been. It's given me a much better balance. Where i would always play the long game. When their times were. I needed to just go in and be clinical and precise and just like nope changes now and that changed the way that i approach things. I still like like eric. Said i try and remind myself of that because now i'm not an external coach anymore so i try and have that which direction. Which way should i play this and having had the opportunity slash challenge to into the external coach. It gave me another tool in my tool belt that i can choose or choose not to use. It's not just internal external duration. Yes right so i'll go in. I i remember what's his name. Dan music he talks about open space agility and and there's a coach without so you do he has like a long arc hundred day or something like chunk so you go into an open space event invite people to come in like. This is an agile transformation. The team the leadership team comes up with. What what are we going to try. It could be tactics and things like that. And there's a hit and dan hangs out. There's a coach for that hundred days. But they're reminding but that's all these that coach leaves after one hundred days. Don't come back and then no plan another hundred days with another coach with another open space and they sort of bounce it that way. He's intentional with getting the hell out of dodge because it put it just it puts a reflection so it's a he's external but there's also how long do i have so it could be external and have five years. I'm playing the long game. That's going to influence me but very often. And that's what people don't realize with me. And i have to be careful to be patient sometimes and not be too aggressive but sometimes i'm only in there like a week or two weeks or three weeks if you had a three week interval which company imagined eight and you're seeing all staff and you wanna have the biggest impact that you can so its internal external Duration and i think that duration also plays a part in how you're received because if you're going to be there for a shorter period of time and the organization is at least receptive to you being there. They are already trying to keep her out the door. They're like okay eric. Give us everything. And they're open and they are more sponge like than if they know they've got you for the next infinity rather like. Oh yeah okay cool. We'll get there and maybe they choose not to really engage with you because you're not gone in an instant effectively right so i think there's there's some balance there's there there's something there. There's a little intensity with short duration. Yeah and i'm not. I don't think you're gonna be an internal shorter. Nazi suggesting if you know i'm gonna internally go for three months and external not all externals but there's something to be said for duration. Dan talks about it as an example only bringing it up as an example but he. He's like they start getting really scared. He says i usually send a reminder out with thirty days and then i have a counter countdown. Because vs like i am done. If you like what. I'm doing right. I'm walking out the door. So it's incumbent on you all pick my brain and things like that and it. It does change the dynamics. It does change the level of engagement. Sometimes so one thing that i think about in this actually gets another topic is kind of stuck in my craw. If you will is lasting change right is the you're nailing on all cylinders here you know and i'd like that when the so is the the you know the land and expand the the blitz. Krieger whatever you wanna call it. The short duration does that produce lasting change. And i'm sure there are. There are stories on both sides. I think the thing why. I've gone internal for my career. Besides affected a a chicken haven't done external coaching. Because of other reasons is that. I find that with these. With changes to the magnitude that we're talking about requires a boatload of trust and trust the old saying is earned in drops and lost in buckets and to create the systemic change that we're looking to create in organizations takes time it takes repetition. It tastes relationship building. And that's the part that i absolutely love. I love getting in there and building the trust seeing behavior change seeing the system improve on a day-to-day basis that but that lack of trust. I mean it's it's pervasive in in business. Which is is mind blowing to me that we have that. This fundamental thing is missing in a lot of places. It's it's a simple thing to think about but man. Is it hard to do in practice. I don't know if i'm not poking at trust on poking at like stickiness great psych the stickiness of a transformation. I don't know if if longevity like i did in internal and you know like agile stickiness you can be working with a change. Agent who leaves a mr bean crumbles right. And i so i can. I can be an it a place for five years. And i've seen mergers and acquisitions in an agile Out the window. So i don't know. I don't know if hanging your hat on stickiness whether it's internal external trust trust right right. I think i think one of the like the. I don't know the hardest thing is to create sticky agile transformation for any coach. And and you in very often. You're not even there like it. Wet what you were transload. I doubt whether translocated sticky now or in the way in two years from now is going to be sticky so so it's like sticky with the people. I guess what i'm trying to say is it's i. I don't try to hang my head on stickiness an organization because there's so many conditions. Where and i almost cried when i left eye contact you know merger and acquisition and they fired good people and it just. I mean i did cry i. It was just heartbreaking. What happened but then what what happened. So we'll be working as asian wasn't sticky. And if you can get that that's great but stickiness with the people is what stuck with me like did i influence people. There's still people that. I met there who were sticky agile to this day to their credit. I wonder react to that. So i don't know like i don't wanna hang that. Maybe you wanna hang that again you could say. My success is related to organizational stickiness. I'm going to be a wimp right. I'm not gonna tie my success to that. Because i it just it'll make me sad. Well i think it has to be nuance straight to your point. Take translate as an example. They do have an agile program. Today i know the people that are doing it and they do well for the organization is completely different. That's my point. A lot of people have left. People changed so that whole organization. It's not the same organised. Ceo's gone that change agents. go on. you're going again. I'm all i'm saying. Is that's the sustainability. I would bet. That's not the vision of agile now so so hanging our hat on that. I think it's a hard thing right. I think to your points the people right. I heard something a long time ago. Men movement or monument is it about the man is about the person is it a personality thing. Is that what they're building. It's just all about them. Is it a monument like a you know again more about what they've done their things or is it a movement. Are you inspiring people. Are you changing the way people think active behave on a daily basis to me that that is the most. That's that's what. I'm hanging my hat on right again. I'm not adverse to try to change an organization but it's it's fluid it's such it's so freaking fluid What do you have to say about that so i. I think all three of us have had the opportunity to create movements in organizations. That that we've been. And the reason i say that is because i can think of people that i've worked with the bob's worked with that eric has worked with that. Carry that same mindset forward that we helped create that maybe it's not all concentrated in that company where where you slash. We were together but they have taken that with them and they are now creating a mini movement in their company and so it started to spread. And i think the thing that's cool is that again. I've worked with somebody that each of you have worked with while creating that movement. And i see it and feel it and i understand that they were part of that. And that's that's that's the lasting success. That i try to hold onto is that are there others out there continuing to build the thing that we built together that it made a difference in their life and wherever they go. They're like we gotta do that again. Like how do we do that. How do we get more people. Think like that. How does that happen. That's the that's the success. That i look for because again. They're there and i don't like saying this. There are many variables that you can't control in an organization. I don't. I'm very uncomfortable with that. So i try and control as many variables as possible to prevent that but the reality is acquisitions. I know eric went through that. I've been through that bob's in things were rocking and rolling. And then like the earth change right under your feet and you like w f like how do i navigate out of this and again. I hate nothing more than being told. There's nothing you can do about it. But there were times where there really was nothing i could do about it but did that movement we create together last. So that's what. I'm really focusing on the solace of it right. It's not because you can. You can get depressed and say well. I had no effect in no push it off to the side. You had an effect on apple right. That's the sustainability part so organizational sustainability is sort of a nice to have to meet people sustainability like touching lives. That's that's something that that's being. Yeah well the two year horn a little bit. Maybe give you a bigger josh's hat are you'd have to compliment me for the next two years to make up for some bad decide argue but what are the things that we when i was at translate one of the things we talked about a lot was the i contact the astra if we knew if they came from i contact if they had it in their background. They were a solid agile practitioner. And that's not things. And no. I mean i see those people to this day and i'm amazed and it's the spirit of people that to me is is what this is about. You see someone who's grown from that so it's not just. Are they agile. But when you knew them and then they've taken it. And they've run with an things. And i see i see that all the time. I'm not all the time. But when i do see it. I'm very appreciative of that. Right thankful for being involved. In what else is in your. Could we have any other have. Do we have time. I think we should probably wrap it up. Wrap it up a solid hour here. We i feel like we need some kind of impactful like wrap up or something like that. Maybe like a pet peeve. What's freesty- oh my god hamilton style rap battle. What an you drop a beat. Remember brontosaurus right right. We just chew we just. You don't like to so. I have no idea. What the walking sores. Wow okay let's let's finish this thing. We are often. This is out of control. I gotta bob what do you after like either. A pet peeve I want us to wrap with something. Or what is our biggest vision for twenty because we have airy cured. Oh okay the year. Yeah so the. Eric what's our biggest Biggest hope for agile in twenty twenty. One biggest. Biggest pivot biggest. Hope i go. Because i have something that we accept that. The revision of the scrum guide is really a non issue. I've i've heard so much talk about you. And i am the guide. I went to the up in arms about it. No not just like frigate discussion. Yeah the webinars explaining it to recordings of it. Are you serious. Oh no it's streams watching having observations and let me let me do a poetic right to rap music of the scrum guide for how many decades that never existed like all those new version. Let's like so. I don't know if it's like trying to ensure help you eat charging for it. No charging for like an interpretation. It's it's out so i'm with you. Yeah i i hope like twenty twenty one to me is this guy becomes a non issue because it's clearly an issue right now and i don't understand arguing about it. Yeah and Because it has changed some things like the team. The added a product goal. So so if you haven't read there's there's there's just some changes yeah. I saw it changes. But they weren't no. It's the community is just desk insane right. I was even going so this never happens to me. Josh almost never happens to me all the hubbub and i was going to write a blog. Post 'cause you know. I'm always inspired the and i was going to write like an antibody post and i said screw it. I'm not even gonna then. I'm just contributing to the stupidity. So i stopped myself. I never stop myself from ready. Erica's has experienced that. No the scrum guide is just go. Get a light. Yeah and i get it. And there's changes cool. But i don't understand the fervor around the changes and to your point all of the discussion and dialogue and debate and webinars and all of the things like i. It's it's never happened before right so it has never happened before. And i don't know what's now it's the twenty fifth anniversary of scrum so in their releasing it sort of tied to that. So that's part of the hoopla but holy crap so that's us tag teaming. I just went that to go away. That is that is silly. Silly silly silly i and it's an evolution. It's like this is agile and your whining about the guy evolving right. It's a cheese eggs jerk really. Do you have something. i think. My hope you actually said it earlier. Something that's been mulling around my brain. A bit is coaching up. And i would love to see more agile. Practitioners have the courage to speak truth to power in a effective manner not in a uninformed a nuanced manner but in a way that promotes an effect tweets chief judge. Well if you're looking for tips and tricks on how to coach or up or how to speak truth to power. Bob and i have recorded multiple episodes of so there are resources out there. So take eric's guidance and go listen and then tell us what we missed what we got wrong and then we'll talk about. Maybe you and i tag him attack one. Eric hit like. I think like us strategic. We need to get better at doing that when you were talking. I also thought of software. And it's become i don't know if folks are self aware of the responsibility to do or that. They're not doing it. Like i see people who think they're coaching up. And they think they're speaking truth to power and they're not even coming close to speaking truth to power right so there's a self-awareness part of it as well. Yeah very cool. That's a nice way to spring forward. Okay so from beautiful downtown. Few cueva arena north carolina. Gosh i'm bob. Gaylon josh anderson. Shake and bake take care of your. Yeah eric we do that.

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Spoiler Discussion: 'The Mandalorian' Chapter Two "The Child"

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Spoiler Discussion: 'The Mandalorian' Chapter Two "The Child"

"Hello everyone and welcome to slash home. Daily for Friday November Fifteenth Two Thousand Nineteen on. Today's episode we're GonNa have a spoiler discussion about the mandatory in chapter two. Do the second episode has hit Disney dive right into that. This is Lashanda editor in chief. Peter Surra during that his pockets of such weekend editor under Bret Owen. Hey let's me and unfortunately Bryan young can't join us today. But he will try to make future episodes of this because we know you like to hear his thoughts. What's but okay before we get into the spoilers for episode two I let's go over a brief reactions. Actions I oh what did you think of this upset. I thought it was great Again I I feel like there's the show is just a little too short. I don't know I I wanted. AH TO BE LONGER You know I I appreciate that. It's it's swift on some level and that there's no fat on it or anything but I I've been enjoying the show so much that I I wish there was more time for us to spend with it moves so fast and This episode particular with only twenty eight minutes and when you don't count the credits that are part of the running time. So so yeah I. I really like how they're developing this Story so far. And you know how you know. We're learning more about this baby iota. What's we're going to be calling it until we learn anything else to call it And it's yeah what what happens with that character in particular episode. It is rather intriguing. It raises a lot of questions about. I guess it's life like a it sounds and moves. You know like a baby but clearly understands things that are going on and as Force abilities gets that. We'll get I I will say this. I liked the second episode a lot more than I like the first episode. Not that I dislike the first episode. I do think some people had problems relating to that character in the first episode. So you know he is behind a mask. We don't learn much about him You know he doesn't say much He's just bad ass and I guess like verse upset. We're kind of mid to fall in love with him just because he's bad us and that that works for me Did Not work for my girlfriend. Kit Tra she She liked the episode. Didn't love of it and when I saw the second episode I was like Oh my God. She's GonNa flip her shit because she loves creatures I I knew that the relationship between between the baby and him was going to like I feel like that is what gets you care about him. The fact that he cares for this baby. There's like a relationship there and and I feel like now that that's introduced a lot more people I think are going to be on board with us The act you know what I and I said this on the water cooler up to You know let me first say that I love Dave Loney loves star Wars rebels. I think thinks he's a genius. He's he's a great storyteller The first steps of the main learning was his live action director Oriel debut and I think it is fantastic for a live action Director Oriel debut. But I don't think it's up a polished as polished of a piece of of live action filmmaking making as should have been for like maybe a pilot episode tone we. It's kind of a little bit all over the place and the action isn't Amazing But I think the second episode which is directed by Rick whom he our. I think it's how you pronounce it. he directed dope which we saw at Sundance. And I loved that film. If you have not seen dope go find seek that out. It's it's a great movie And I think this is just the feels like much more accomplished Piece of cinema so okay. Let's dive into let's Actually before we dive into it. Let's talk about things like you mentioned that this episode is like I think it's like twenty seven minutes long or twenty eight minutes long We were promised a alive action one hour episode series in like you know usually when you say that in the world of like premium television like HBO. Some of those episodes are Over an hour Should we be disappointed that this we're getting less than half of the half hour episodes. I don't know you know 'cause I you wonder if they ever explicitly said it was going to be our long episodes but part of me wonders. If maybe these first few episode is going to be kind of however long and they are because his jump ever wrote what like the first four episodes on SPEC before he ever ever even got Disney to listen to pitch so I wonder if once they finally order like He. He's like okay. Now I can flush this out right longer episodes. Maybe yeah I do know at the junk it at the press conference I think he said that. The episode were varied in length depending on what the story needed to be told. And that's something that we've seen with like streaming shows. I will say I've seen the third episode and I think the third episode probably around like thirty thirty five forty minutes so it doesn't get longer quite yet and I I will say in the third episode. I'm not going to spoil anything from the episodes. Don't you worry What time did this absolute watch last night on Disney Postino I don because I tried at midnight my time which was one? AM The eastern time and it was not available yet. Looks like what is midnight Pacific Time so it seems like a lot of marriage are GONNA be waiting up until midnight Pacific or you know three m eastern every Thursday night to catch this which is gonna be crazy but We're GONNA try to do these SPLUR- discussions on Fridays So that you can get your fix after you see the episode Okay let's let's dive into the actual episode Mandatory in his walking walking with the iota baby which I guess is what we're GonNa call her and our iota baby. Yeah He does that. Species does not have a name yet. Although it's rumored remember that George Lucas did give the species a name for the show so he probably will be finding that out at some point They are attacked by some creatures. They're still on this planet that he you know. He obtained the Yo to baby. On with a edgy eleven They're attacked by some creatures I Love I just love how like how this is filmed. You see like some shadows and it's just out of the men's view and he kind of looks that way we get a close to put them in that moment we get like a reflection of them jumping overhead. It's just like so perfect Who who are the scriptures dino the other trend oceans which are the exact same species of boss who is one of the bounty hunters who darth vader hired to find Hans Solo and everybody nobody else the empire strikes back? Yeah and In bad ass fashion the Mando takes you know takes out in short order and One of them drops one one of those beeper things which signals that they were also out for the same bounty right. Yeah that that that was interesting detail because obviously and show that mission died eleven. Looks like this is something that a lot of people are trying to get their hands on. Yeah Yeah for sure. I do want to point out that there's a lot more creatures in this upset. I think something that did Help Nope My girlfriend kicked trouble. Love this I do think for some people star. Wars is droids in creatures diving. Like that's interesting to me. 'cause like I like seeing the designs and the different kinds of creatures but I never like Oh Sweden new creature. Well I'm not even talking about like the big curcio like like the little frog things and like the job was like I feel the need more than humanistic like I mean. I guess there was a bunch of creatures in the background of like the the cantina shots in the first episode. But they're definitely they definitely play a much bigger role in this episode. Okay so Do you have anything to say about at the this action scene No it was. It was really well done I I am I liked it. I liked it a lot. I think that the the train oceans were pretty cool as far says villains are concerned. They're treated more like henchmen in this time. But I was just nice to see you know creatures like that inaction. Yeah and there's a close. Oh substance of your baby's face which just like too cute and Actually when I was at the world premiere this week Thorough in default. He told the story about how they were. Shooting scene With I assume the iota baby and Werner Herzog character which I guess may be spoiler. I don't know whatever they told it. So they were fine with it being out there and they were not willing to give any spoilers But they filmed the scene with Werner Herzog's character this Yo baby and While they were filming the scene they had to they were filming it with a puppet and then they would have to do shots where they took the puppet out and Film the same scene without the puppet in the pod So that they could replace it with a CG Iota baby and Werner Herzog Ugh. I guess asked him like why they're doing that. And they explained like you know they weren't sure the puppet would play you know perfectly on TV so they needed to have that option option to CG in like Hers Call Them Cowards. Would it would not allow them to do it. So during your seats they they were not allowed to use the the The plates or something so. I thought that was hilarious. That is hilarious Okay so we then see what do we see the We then see the main alluring logo and the reveal. The chapter two has a title the child which is fitting so far we had thought that each episode just going to be called chapter. Sure you know whatever number but they're actually gonNA have titles which is is cool Laureates fixing himself in the boy crawls out of his crib or we don't even know if it's a boy girl right. The baby crawls crab incomes towards them the music build and I think the audience is supposed to know something the man does not I know what was this baby does he have force. Does it have forced healing abilities. So that you're not the only thing to note here because As far as I know we haven't seen anybody use the force to like. He'll somebody who has a wound or a cut right. Yeah so that was interesting because please after the fight he got injured and he's trying to like he used some kind of like Welding device to like close the wound on his arm. And that's when the little the Little Baby Iota Oughta get comes out and walks over to him and puts his hand up like he's going to use force abilities but man it was just like you said just just picks up Dixon Mexicans crab and happens a couple all times too and it's like obviously that's interesting because it seemed like the man delorean doesn't know about the force or know that like that people still have those IOS abilities. Yeah we got to say that this is like three decades after you know the Janai were taken down side from Luke Skywalker who is just like a small part of one battle or you know battles like you know people were on the galaxy. Wouldn't know yeah the jet I have been gone. You know since Order Sixty six took the mountain. So it's been a while and you know we. This is obviously. He's between her and the German Force Awakens and by the Time Force Awakens comes around even Luke Skywalker. There's just regarded as a myth. Yeah you know you. You did mention Yoda like the baby is powers. We are revealed in this episode absurd side. I don't think we should like you know high talking about that yet. D- You mentioned. He's a baby with power so like it was just born with these pilots. We know what these abilities he is. Fifty years old so maybe he could have learned it over the fifty years. Yeah I mean just because he sounds like a baby and is so small doesn't necessarily early mean he. Yeah he's or this thing whether it's a girl or boy or anything Is a child. You know 'cause you're Yoda was very small all by comparison as an adult who was nine hundred years old. So yeah I mean fifty years is a long time for anybody so yeah I obviously stands to reason that this you know uh-huh creature knows what's happening around and knows when to use its abilities so it's obviously Cognizant yeah nothing you know. We didn't mention the last week when we we're going through this that Werner Herzog's character was okay with the bounty being returned dead with the doctor. Dr pershing was not what he really wanted it to be. You know this Yo baby what we found out to be this year to be wanted to be returned to live and even I g eleven was sent. Apparently it was given orders orders to bring in debt. Not even like if you can bring it in a live So I'm curious what you think about this. What do you think the motives here? If the if one of hers character wanted it dead. What could they do with a dead? I mean you could probably the examiner it and look at you. Know it and see how it's body operated autopsy style especially if you know since Since the first episode came out there's a little Camino clone facility reference to because the doctor has is wearing uniform the has the symbol that all the the FEC clones or jingle clones rather were wearing in attack of the clones targets partic- in the show. But there's like photos online where you can see on his shoulder shoulder. There's a patch which is the patch that all the cones for. Yeah so if I if this creature is somehow a clone whether it's a iota or of another creature of its species than they might be interested in examining at but a part of me wonders if maybe these people are just middlemen. They don't know what it is that they're getting like I do wonder if you even verner Herzog's or anyone who sent these bounty hunters out knows that this creature is a baby because all they know is that it's fifty years old so to to them that should be a full grown. You know creature man character woman. What have you and not something that seems like it's a child another thing? We didn't mention last week. That a friend of Mine Raza pointed out is Dr pershing is one of the first star wars characters that to wear glasses there are characters in the Star Wars Canon that we're goggles But I think aside from like maybe like the you walk adventure there is no characters wear glasses so that that's interesting to note. Yeah I never realized that okay. So let's let's move on because we're going on here They awake to find jowls or scavenging. The parts from the razor crest their ship. They don't awake to find it as they walk and make their journey back to ship from a distance. That is yeah is he. Jealous have completely lately torn apart his ship Middle starts taking out the little creatures using his pulse rifle which awesomely disintegrates them in place. I think that That imagery is very cool. Yeah made a jumps onto the side of the sand crawlers and tries to get As it tries to get away and The action scene here like the fall is so much bigger than I thought the series would ever get. Or maybe I thought like maybe the final the episode would get this level like it's really like this action taking place on the side of sand crawlers. Jaguars and the men were fighting in. There's also some nods here to Indiana agenda and the last crusade like the whole The only yeah when you boys the cliffside and like put himself up the side of the sand crawler and everything. What did do you think of this whole thing? Yeah it's a great sequence. The action is very very well done and even though it feels big you can tell how easy it would be for them to pull this off with a you know a a decent budget you know. the sand crawlers. Seems like it's practical for the most part you know. I don't know if they use miniatures or anything like that like they did when they shot you know The razer crashed in space. Using some of the old school original trilogy Filming Techniques But otherwise the rest of it is just close ups. I'm what you could easily have as a wall facade. You know that the mandatory in his climbing and and and things like that so I I really WanNa see a behind the scenes of a lot of this stuff to see how they pulled it off. Yeah I really WANNA know like they keep keep on talking about this technology. I've had friends that have been onset. That talked about how insane it was like all the sets were created using these projection. Like these not yeah projection. Led panels and that like it was a tavern described at the at the premiere as they were in a motion capture stage. This is actually filmed on the stage. Next to Avatar for those who don't know in Manhattan beach and it was on a motion capture stage in all the walls and things are like L. Louis d screens that are so high resolution that they look like real things. Now when I when I see this series when I see like Mando in Werner Herzog's the office all that stuff will practical to me but I'm assuming some of it isn't some of it's actually created in computer. which is I don't know I? I WANNA see a behind the scenes thing to see like exactly what is actually being created by the thing because Werner Herzog just like lost justice shit onstage saying how like it was the future of cinema and how you know actors now don't have to pretend they're somewhere and it seems like it's invisible. Toss I watch. I wonder I wonder if maybe it's just the kind of thing that they've been using lately. where the US projected screens like around the outside of spaceships hyperspace for space and stuff like that that I think it's bigger like from what I'm told? It's more than that is basically they have these screens surrounding a set as if they they were green screens. But it's so much more sophisticated because a the actors don't have to pretend what's around them they actually get to see it and be the environment can be manipulated deleted and changed depending on what kind of shot. They're getting and what they need to be to be. Seen yet. Fabric said that the like the cameras have motion tracking device on him so The screens what is shown on the screens is changed based on its position in Rome and it's generated in real time buy like these INVIDIA THE LA high end chipsets. Yeah Yeah so Yeah anyways okay. Back to the scene the scene involves made laurien taking out. The job was as we as they throw shit shit him and Fire Upon Him It's pretty cool. It's a it's a fun sequence. He finally makes it to the top of the crawler and They shoot him with what they're stun-guns or something all shooting at the same time. Yeah and he falls to the desert floor which honestly should have killed him but maybe the best car steel There's some padding in there or something I mean. That's no match for physics. Yeah who knows the gravity on this planet might be no. I don't know When when he wakes up The Hours are long gone. The tracks are in the sand and the membership has been completely destroyed. When I saw this at the Premiere I was like Holy Who Crap like? They built up the ship as being a big part of the series. Just like they built up I g eleven and it's completely gone in the second episode. I was like so so shocked. It was rather surprising to see how in disarray it was like panels missing from walls. No computer systems no weapons. It really was presented in a way that there was no way to recover it like it was not like like a few things were missing. Yeah anyways Midler and makes makes his way back to by the way we keep on saying Mandolin but this week Pedro Pascal the guy that plays the mandatory actually revealed the mandolins name. Yeah and this was in like an official electronic press kit interview that got sent out from Disney plus it seems to he just very candidly reveals. While he's the Laura not even prompted for his real name but he says it's Din Jaren which we're not sure how to pronounce it or not pronounce it but rather spell it because it star wars so you know like we had guesses ranging from like the first name being like d. y. and last name starting with J. or maybe a Z.. H. Depending depending pending because the sound could be either or so. We were waiting to see how when that name gets revealed and I would spell but the big thing there is like when you have a masked person and like the the Star Wars Universe where everything connects People are like oh it could be a fad could. Maybe there's a big reveal to you. Know who the character is being played underneath the mask. It seems like the the Mandalay interested in new character so rest assured mystery there. Yeah Okay so mid Laurean makes its way back to his nut. Fr- friends who is voiced by Nick. Nolte his home his homestead and he stuck on this planet This isn't by the way isn't tach Wayne. I think they mentioned what it is When he's given the bounty But I guess John was exists outside of tach wing and these I was actually look different. They have like different colored eyes and they They have dusty grey cloaks instead of the Brown cloak. So that's kind of cool Okay so he's back at the homestead And by the way this is the first bit of dialogue in this episode. I think it's eleven minutes into this episode Bryan young who wrote up the the review on Social Netcom mentions this the George. Lucas once said that the store shelves are basically silent movies. And they're designed the silent movies. The music has a very large role in carrying the story. More than it does wooden a normal movie This you know this is on full display here. This much much of this thirty minute. Episode is dialogue. So that's Kinda cool that the first You know bit of dialogue comes eleven minutes and The convinces him to trade with. The Dow was something that he doesn't think's going to happen and the the iota baby eats a frog. which is just adorable? Yeah he's playing within hopping around The while they're traveling to the jobless crawler Doug Dot says they don't the Arab I see them he's like they really don't like you for some reason. He says well I did disintegrate a couple of them and I feel like their relationship. The interaction between in those two. I like so much and I hope that's a bigger part of the series but now now okay so they finally get to. The job was He midler and gets rid of his his weapons or the actually or at least the weapons that they can see and they sit down and agree to terms They agree to trade the parts four were quote unquote the egg The child was start. Change sent shaping the egg. It almost reminds me that you walks in a way of how primitive the Of a race they are The same caller drops the middleware in in the baby off at the Muddy Valley where there is a whole whole This is where this creature were wearing. The Ed can be found the minore in Before entering the whole I I love how the learning does a check of his things like checks his gun blaster and he's like when I leave my house. I always do that check. I like do Wallet Keys. Take Laurie did before. Like at during this this dwelling. Yeah for sure it I just love little details like that and So so we we we just we just missed it but the one of my favorite parts of this episode is funny little moment after the job has decided they want him to get the egg for them because they're chatting it and the way they say it is two guys and a shot when you see the mandatory and inside the sand grower and he has to Crouch a little bit because it's made for how small the hours that was our yeah and and he's just sitting there and one of the judges turns and looks at them whether Dr Seuss. Yeah I think the cavity Havi in this episode works a lot better than it did in the first episode and not that I was bad in the first episode but feels more Star Wars. Yeah I should say Okay so he enters this big hole and he finds an eye opens up and it's creature This creature have we seen the scripture before are ever in Star Wars. You know not that. I know I didn't recognize this creature and there have been other creatures that have a horns protruding from them but not one that has like a big singular. Yeah and this and we should say that for a television show creature looks incredible like I'm assuming they're using the same technology and like visual effects. kind the people that like John Farrell used for jungle book and Lion King because it just looks unreal. I don't know if it's a match of of practical and CG or how they're doing it and The interesting thing about this seeing is it's a battle all seen between the mental oriented in this creature. But there's also this baby at play but he's in this pod that the mid wearing can kind of control and navigate out of the way of of the creature. Yeah and the the really gets his ASS kicked in this battle to. which was you know? We're so used to seeing the mandatory in be this bad ass person who comes out of a fight mostly horsely unscathed and this time you know we see that he is you know not this. You know invincible superhero because he gets. Es tossed around his arm or get smashed and it just really takes a beating. He's all muddy I. His armor was already a little bit destroy completely destroyed and He's hurt hurt and he's Getting dragged through the mud literally. It's nearly killed but in that moment The Yo to baby uses force powers I to hold the creature back owning the mandatory into this up into the air. Yeah Yeah So. That's that's that's a lot of weight there for the Little Guy Guy like him. Judging by its size you shouldn't so Okay so so. This is a big reveal. They you know you'll be behest powers is something that like. I assume everybody watching the show. Oh new from the moment that we saw an episode one right You know I don't know I'm not because I was kind of one of the big questions whether or not just because this character looks like a Yoda's Oh two species actually has forced abilities you know especially since he looks lives on like a baby. I like a lot of star. Wars fans would assume it because there's only been two of these creatures ever seen in. I think the star wars movies in both of them had force abilities so Like I wondering is this kyw species born with four civilities like are they just high in Medicare and I theorizing in our slack channel because we we have those rumors that George will provided a name for the species in my my going theory. And I'm not. I'm not sure I'm correct but I I like this theory. Is that the species he's name is going to be the wells. So you know star wars started as the journey of the wills and they've mentioned that like you know rogue one I feel like that'd he cool to have them as like this ancient species that basically there's so the rare and so few of them that exists in this galaxy so I think it's a fair theory. Yeah we'll find out Okay so the baby is completely exhausted. Falls Asleep Mid Laurien returns insane crawler just as they were about to leave a apparently. They didn't wait that long. Because the battle didn't seem like it took that long but who knows The JOWL is get their egg and we finally find out what they wanted it for. What did they WANNA for Pratt? One of the jobless slices the top open with a knife and just starts eating the orange view that's inside event and start crowding around him and reaching their hand into it and just like justice slapping it all over their face eating it as just wanted this delicacy st of Aig apparently Nestle Consi- assuming this yoke. Do you think this is just like a really expensive meal for them or do you think like this yolk in their culture like give them special powers or good luck I feel like it must be more than just a meal right. I I feel like maybe it's something that's super rare for them. You know like like a delicacy somewhere. They they very rarely some upon and very rarely can get because of how hard it is to you know. Defeat the creature in order to get them so I imagine it's just one of those things. Where are you know? Like legitimately like Faberge egg to them just one just one that they can eat. Yeah the Midler and says I'm surprised. You waited to the Matt Response. I'm surprised you took so long. Just loved the exchanges between these tier. They're just so good The ended up rebuilding the razor crest. Best in a montage again. By the way I wanted this montage to have an eighty s pop song so bad if it had just like with the metal welding and a hammer hitting if it really felt like a rocky mount yeah But I will say the music in this episode is incredible. I'm loving this music more and more like the music in that battle scene. I don't even know what instruments were being used. Or what like. It's just crazy like I in. It's crazy easy that he basically created a different score for each of these episodes like he's not just reusing playing upon themes blake. You know this is a film composer that is providing a new composition for each of these episodes and honestly I was Kinda surprised and maybe even impressed that 'cause I was anticipating paid in that moment when The Baby Yoda uses the force to stop the creature that when you see his hand it was going to do the ooh. Yeah yeah the they're using any of the Classic Star Wars names. Yeah it somehow feel star wars even if you'll so alien to star wars Okay so many Laurean asks the to become a crew member of his and the United States basically. He's worked his entire lifetime time to to be free of solid servitude He thanks him for bringing peace to the valley in my heart melts so I thought that was really Touching moment and obviously he says I have spoken which is just like the greatest the blind to come out of the series of our I just love that. He keeps on saying that Okay so many Gordon Leaves We assume that he's bringing the baby. Yoda Rhoda back to his home. World for the huge reward he's GonNa get from Werner Herzog As fighting through space. The baby wakes up in Cut the credits So that is the episode. Do you do you have anything that we didn't get to talk about in this. This spoiler discussion. No I don't let me so. I was expecting something else to happen before the end of the episode. Yeah yeah it was kind of a weird place to end it I will say this. I've seen the first three episodes and I feel like the first three episodes could have almost been a movie. That could have set up this show not saying that they were It feels weird to I. Guess the first episode is a natural endpoint like it really has that like that. Big reveal of the Babbio to this episode. It's it's kind of more. We're it's more of a leaves you with a not not a reveal by question like you know what is going to happen from here. Yeah Yeah like I anticipated like a a sudden a new ship. All of a sudden appear and like there's going to be a cliffhanger whereas like oh no you know who's after the the kid now but it was very calm thing that where he wakes up from being so tired and then there is the kind of each other all right. Well let's go for sure. Okay that brings us to the end of today's slash on daily bread. Where can people find more your work on line always on slash home dot com? 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Wearable/Implantable Nanotech Is Your New Normal & Experimental COVID Injections Are Its Fast-Track

The Last American Vagabond

2:31:51 hr | 7 months ago

Wearable/Implantable Nanotech Is Your New Normal & Experimental COVID Injections Are Its Fast-Track

"Doing welcome to the daily. Wrap up a concise show dedicated to bring you the most relevant independent news as we see it from the last twenty four hours a february sixth two thousand and twenty one. Thank you for joining me today. Doing this on a different platform today. Because i wanted to test out a new feature on this. I already see something that i dislike about it. But we're try to make this the best possible show every single day as we just talked about the other day a little bit better every single day always strive for and all we should strive for as being better than we were yesterday in every way we can try now today. We're going to talk about nanotechnology and kind of this development and how it's processed over how it's developed over the last so many. I mean over the decades but aggressively over the last so many years in a really quiet way and now is suddenly kind of disappeared in the conversation as it's being bill faster than ever right now which is very telling but also how the way. I made the title for the video. Today's intentional in a way to get people to reflexively think they know what that means. Except i don't mean what they think. I mean in most cases what what the title means. There is the idea of how the vaccine and the way it's being pushed out in the way it's being regulated and is creating the circumstance in every possible way that's driving in their justification and every in every other sense for why they're going to be pushing smart dust nanotechnology injectable no platforms all these things. That are fake news if you look anywhere on twitter but actively being built by darpa your government right now. So we're going to go over all of this and talk about smart dust in particular and why that is such an alarming concept and why it is interesting in regard to the concept of covid nineteen and what we just talked about yesterday and microsoft. Id twenty twenty and their digital id direction and how aggressively they were trying to drive for talking about how they would need some kind of event or some kind of convergence of circumstances to create. What's happening right now. That was in two thousand eighteen so we have to think about all of this december so start off today with a discussion about the censorship of people around this before we lead into the concept of prof usa now hopefully this show will actually be shorter than usual not necessarily short or short or long as can be. But i'm doing my best to keep these to certain topics as i talked about yesterday. But we're going to start off now. Did this before where you could tell me if you prefer seeing the whole time or not but what frustrates me. Is that the full screen view that just got updated with the new platform. But you know pluses and minuses. Hopefully it'll all be better once we get the platform. I'm working on in the very near future but back to see seeing me. I want to start off just to kind of shout out a great interview. I did this morning. With high impact flakes bryan young the title as you can see censorship domestic terrorism technocracy and really just a great conversation about how he was just censored yet again. His third backup channel. The links are right here for you. It's just a backup to his backup is now censored it's absurd and all a lot of we kinda. I'm going to touch on today in facts but it's a great discussion about censorship. And what's how it's happening and just a shout out. You should check that out. It's a it's a rock exclusive so you do in fact the iraqi account to see this video but it's free so she do so it's good. It's a good platform now on the note of censorship as we move forward. Vanessa pointed out as well as a lot of people on twitter today. Michael jordan was censored you know the the the the former pfizer exact. That knows this stuff. That's talking about what he knows because he's an expert in this field that they censored him. Why probably medical misinformation because you know twitter are the experts even over the. Phd's that have degrees in this field. You know used to call experts but now it's just to ever speak the loudest with a position of power. That's the experts today. But he was censored and voting enough. I was just watching and reading some of his threads in going. Wh whoa how is it. They've not gone after him yet. And of course. That doesn't mean i want them to know that they're going after anybody in this way myself included but i was just shocked that he saying a lot of truth and he's saying things that they don't want him to say and then of course then here it is we see him get censored. It's just pretty pathetic now. I've just into the comments right there for a second. There's a lot of discussion about who was involved and so on. But i can't actually confirm but here's his account and what's interesting by the way is it now says this account doesn't exist which i find interesting because if you look at the last american vagabond right now at ta vagabond. It says this account has been suspended indefinitely. Apparently because they've never even emailed me about what happened and instantly banned t lab too. When i tried to make it which is why i'm operating under a different pseudonym at this point most of you probably know what that is. But here are the culprits of the michael removal. She points out at least the that we can clearly see is these are people that are openly going yay. We did it. We got that person removed which is just incredible that we're at a point of the world where this is. What's okay but of course when it happens in another country. Oh look at those terrible people over there in the third world countries. That don't know how to manage and get free speech but of course if it's just we have no sense of ourselves. No we were so touchy with who we are as a country. Thank goodness here's hoping clear. Craig follows him. These are all people that are actively trying to get people removed for speaking on things that they're allowed to talk about. You know experts with degrees but the point of the finnish one is that this is a person another doctor who saying oh did i do this laughing about it as she points out that she did this that this doctor is in fact getting another of her better if you will in regard to degrees a phd removed. It's disgusting and this is. This is cheered on by the establishment. Right she's willing to act. You expose herself for being the last person anybody should ever go to for anything including a medical advice as somebody who is willing to throw all of that aside to get a pat on the head from the oligarchy. Good job anna year. Good you know you're you you do. What your government tells you. They want that they scream for that virtue. Signaling look at me. It's disgusting even if you disagree with him even if he's wrong it's disgusting but we all know that anybody honest knows this. Here's a tweet that was gonna share. Which is what triggered me to the idea that he is centered. Today he just recently shared this. I'd expect a very solid relationship between covid. Nineteen death next steps. would you. yeah and you know what. It's exactly what they were screaming about back before we had the full data. Saying your conspiracy theorist. Don't you know that there's going to be huge excess deaths. You know that will happen somehow psychic. I guess but guess what it didn't happen and other datas out and they're really quiet about why they were screaming along time ago. About how there'd be so many excess deaths why because the government was giving you little categorized little. Here's a two month period showing you access desk for march of last year. Oh look at a high. It is but then you look at the full year. Know it's no worse than other years before it and that's the point you point out the fact that easy to look up but because you do it in a way that makes you question vaccines deleted even a phd. But only because he saying right there there isn't there's no relationship between excess deaths an exit in numerous situations here. There's no correlation between the data. Nothing like he says. How can that be as they point out in some areas there's excess death but few covert nineteen deaths. That's got to be policy. Deaths lockdown shirley so as an expert with degrees. He's not allowed to even consider his own opinion to theorize based on what he knows. Nope that's the point telling you guys. You're only an expert in so far as you go along with the narrative that's it i mean that's why they're they're trying out pediatricians and oncologist and saying look. Tell us what you think about covid. Nineteen because the phd's better or all screaming that you're being deceived and this is what's actually happening as we talked about. Actually with brian today high impact flakes a real world. Scenario rogue medical. Police date is out of control according to james lyons wiler phd. Another one. speaking. Out about the truth. I recommend you follows account. He's constantly sharing important things but as he sharing you hear ontario dr demoted after criticizing government over pandemic understand that he's not giving medical advice. This is an individual who has a credential as a doctor so that gives him even more credence to speak on. These things is telling periods. Just simply saying i disagree with what the government is doing and that gets him demoted as a doctor. This is what it looks like when you live in a fascist state where the government is the doctor. That's what happens. It's a problem but see the people that want to allow this and continue to scream about your sensor those people. Because i like being told i'm right are the people that are driving this into the ground and are happy to let it happen right up until it swings back around then attacks them to which always happens but people like anna here will never ever understand that until it happens to them and they'll be the one like jordan sheridan screaming about how i can't believe happening after you just call for censorship for other people. It's it's pathetic but it's happening everywhere. This is what is happening to everybody speaking out and trying to inform you of the truth fight for them. Stand up for them. They're standing up for you now on the idea of what they're trying to get at here and trying to reveal to you that there are actually terrible things going on here that they're hiding from you and no i don't mean over. Nineteen is it. There is a lot going on here that they probably sense. But i sense that you probably sense. There is a lot happening around the sides of this. And that i think in fact are the main point of what all of this is whether or not. There's actually something happening in in the context of a virus. A covid nineteen. I think people like this are beginning to sense this and it's just like it just simply going. They're not doing. What's right. Dr saying that there's got be a lot there for them to challenge to know that they will be called out and attacked and i think it is stuff that we're beginning to find out about the direction that it's all going around it. Now why would doctors who were calling this out and saying this is wrong. Your actions are wrong. Like dr ridell saying look. I mean the actually remember. I had the video there. I didn't i didn't know that's actually the ending video. But dr the rebel. Excuse me is the one who was talking about how. He's there into baiting people and they know this is not right that they're operating under a paradigm that is false. That's he said that way. In the beginning of all of this the point is why would they be lying about all this stuff right. What's the end goal. A lot of people are asking that right. Why would they do that well. This is one obvious and easy to put together. Motive the world economic forum the great reset agenda twenty thirty all of these things needed some kind of catalyst as they told you as they talked about in this very article that i'm to briefly mentioned again. Did they needed something like this now. Maybe it happened organically or maybe it was pushed. It doesn't make a difference now. It's being used and what doesn't make a difference but in the context of this point doesn't make a difference because it's being used and driving it forward. This is from the world. Economic forum workplace disrupted five themes that will define the future of work. Now what. I find most interesting about this. And by the way. I want to reiterate the derrick rose had done some fantastic work with a lot of good people people. He works with at the conscious resistance. James corbett a lot of different people in regard to the greater reset. Please check it out. It's meant to be counterpoint. To what all of this is from the davos world economic forum the push for the greater reset. But what i find most interesting about this is how asserted. They're they're not there so they're not saying this is possibly future. What we think should happen or what you should do. They're saying this is the future. This is what will be doing with your life. And it's really alarming. The way that they stayed that now it says right here the future of the workplace will be digital. Understand that this is this the point of highlighting. That is italian with the and where it's been going this. Remember this article from two thousand eighteen. Eighty this looking at here is recent. This is from January fourteenth so middle last month. Now it says the future workplace we'll be digital and we know they've been building up for a very long time. Is that because it will be should be or we wanted to be or is it. Because they're just telling us it will be think of think of the the difference there the distinction between the two things. Now it is very important for all of us. It says to understand that. The new normal or next normal whitney our just talking about this. How can you the new normal the next normal this is just becoming meaningless if there was a normal that we're supposed to be going. There's only a normal not normal. There's not you can't the new normal the next normal the normal after that the three normal down the line. That's not how this works. But they want you to think like that so you forget about the fact that we never actually went back to normal. Which is the real point but as it says important for all of us to understand that the new normal or the next normal in the post covid era will be shaped more definitively by technology than any other force in the global theater. Today now again is that because it should be happening or because it just is or because they're just telling you that will and that's what they're making happen. I mean it makes a difference about what people in the country. And the world. Actually want whitney and i talked about this in regard to the legacy systems the idea that people like eric schmidt in the ai commission The a sea. I believe the commission on artificial intelligence is openly talked openly but amongst their circles talking about removing these systems. Things that americans are dependent upon the rely that we that are ubiquitous in our lives such as owning cars or any number of things. They're saying well we're just gonna do away with those legacy systems because those are hindering us from being better than china and when they say aas they mean them not us american people. So you're going to change your lives irrevocably to benefit their agendas in artificial intelligence now. It's not a hypothetical that's happening. Did you vote on that. Is eric schmidt and elected official. How does this operate when you're working with an unelected power structure. We're to see that build in front of us though public private partnerships it's slowly deep dissolving in front of us. Whatever we thought we had now it says every aspect of our lives for wellbeing to work and everything else in between. I love the we. It's weird that they say well being like. Think about that when you're talking about every aspect of your lives they're talking you would. You would think okay you know what your your your personal life your work life but then they say well being work so there including your feelings your internalized feeling your body your thoughts. So this is what they're getting at. This is the same thing as klaus. Schwab saying we're going to be blending are biological in our physical identities. They're telling you what they're doing. And yet p all we can get his people on twitter. Blue checks laughing and calling us crazy. And they're either that just pathetically out of the loop or out of touch or they're lying to you because they're doing it and saying we're doing this and then they go year so crazy for thinking. They're doing that now. Specifically the way people work and interact with their work places and the way companies operate will see tremendous changes now thinking about the change. Why is this because all of a sudden technology is just. It's developing that fast and why hasn't happened until now and or is it because of something like code nineteen and if that's the case by the way that's what they're saying if that's the case why is it how does covert nineteen redefine. All of these things. It really doesn't what they're saying is well as just a good opportunity and then it brings us back to the beginning of the point that they needed a convergence of events to drive in what they already wanted to happen. Just like the. I plan just like everybody else we've talked about. How can we not see how obvious that looks. Covert nineteen is giving us the opportunity. Sure it has nothing to do with climate. Change your technology or any of these things. But they're making it the case so we need to ask at the very least whether they're keeping this whole thing going as we can clearly see they are for this type of purpose now. There's a lot of options are points they make about. What will change the one of the ones that pointed out that we're most that stood out to me the most one they talk about gig economy platforms enabled by digital technologies are empowering individuals to take on short non. Now what's what insults bill insulting about. This is that they don't want gig economy. They don't want peer to peer that the illusion of that. The point is if you actually had some some sort of a an uber without the app right some kind of real scenario where i mean. You can have an app just not with decentralized part of it or you know airbnb were. You don't have to go through some kind of government or some kind of third party you just you taught you l. and you say hey. Here's some cash. That is the kind of person to person economy. That scares the hell out of them because they can't track it they can't watch it. They can control it. They can't profit from it so when you talk about gig economies. They're talking about the ones that they're putting in place to say. Here's a gig economy that they're completely controlling a movement strings behind and tracking everything you're doing within it. Real person to person economies cut out that middleman so it's interesting that they include that but it's a smart works work smarter use me. Work will become smarter as it says in quotes as artificial intelligence human machine. Co. collaboration will take over repetitive. And routine tasks yeah. Let's pretend like routine tasks will end up being collaborations. So you have a human over there. Patting the machine on the back. Continue to move that conveyor belt. That's a joke they insulting way to just. Yeah we're not gonna phase you out. We're not going to completely replace you. Even this makes you completely redundant. We'll just keep paying. Anyway it's a joke. They will completely as you out and they all know that. That's the point of this whole process. What's even more insulting as they later on. This article discussed the idea of what will happen to people. That don't have those jobs you can go off and do more things as it says actually right next to it freeing employees to focus on meaningful work that just say human machine collaboration. How is it freeing employees. It's it's they're contradictory. They want you to both simultaneously. Think don't worry you're not gonna lose your job but then also say but you get two free do more things and we'll pay you money to do nothing. That's what they're talking about now. It says i am confident that despite alarmist warnings and also just the idea of artificial intelligence should always be concerning to us but it says i am confident that despite the alarmists warnings artificial intelligence will directly or indirectly create more net new jobs than it will displace and provide additional headroom for human in genuity ushering in an era a new era of exponential innovation. Innovation is not what any of these people want. They want to control the direction. They don't want people with free thought and free. I don't know why. I'm blanking on the term for that free market to go out and you know just make things on their own is seldom to different people. They want a piece of that. That is why that's an illusion. What happens with artificial intelligence as more top down control. And that's what everybody anywhere understands. This will tell you including them by the way when it suits their interest and a different discussion. It will not continue. Won't make more jobs it'll crush ingenuity. It will create things for a small isolated group of powerful people. And that's not how it will have to be. But that's what is being built. And i'll make all make more points about that as we go forward and also the people in control of what is being built and what they clearly had done in the past right. It's all about the people driving the bus. Now it says work for planet. The twenty first century is hopefully going to go down in the history books as the era of sustainable economy. It's interesting that. I continue to point this out. The idea of sustainability sustainable development as now somehow synonymous with a very alarming sinister agenda and it is because they're using it but let's not forget that sustainability is exactly what we're fighting for just not in within their control sustainable in more in the the idea that you should be able to grow a garden in your front yard or collect reporter go out and do whatever you want in a way that you feel is most synergistic with the world but when they talk about sustainable economy they're talking about a top down control where you own nothing and they own everything and they make sure they tell you what to do. And that's best for everybody that's very simplified idea but this is what the greater idea will develop to it as we believe it now. It says i believe that. Companies communities and countries will rewire their policies and programs at scale to protect the planet and people alongside their need for profits. Jobs that drive. The sustainable way of life will therefore be at the center of the twenty first century will grow millions and who will be having those jobs with that. That's the point but it says Just lost my place. It's as technology and tech companies will advise create and enable these new jobs In the intersection of climate. Change that game from and public services as well as consumer products. I just well. Of course they're talking gonna work for planet. The idea here is that technology and tech companies. Windy coming so they're talking about this. The future of our planet and tech companies will be the ones advising the direct me. That's that's leadership. Why in the world would tech companies have any role in something like this. These are people with profit motives. That do things at your expense to benefit their shareholders. There's no reason in the world. These people should be seen as optimistic if in any way but that's how they're being painted. That scares me and it should scare you as well that to me tells me that they're people that they're the ones driving this bus when you can see. The president of the united states completely platform across the board while he's still the president. Maybe we should recognize. There's a power shift happening now. The pandemic has given us an excellent opportunity. It says as always to trans transition from designing workplaces for efficiency to deciding designing for effectiveness inclusion resilience and sustainability workplaces. Right so it's no longer about. Who's best for the job. It's about a bunch of other factors that they institute now yes. Things should matter in regard to whether people are unjustly giving people jobs. They don't deserve them like nepotism. Give to your son when they don't deserve the job should matter but the problem is when you start to say well. Everybody who hires at some point needs at least one son and one daughter will suddenly go wait a minute. That doesn't actually make sense right. And it doesn't make sense but of course when you start to talk about about races well then all of a sudden that the logic doesn't apply it's like biden's administration sure. Is it good that there are people that are good enough to have those positions that are in positions that are minorities even though it's weird that that discussion itself is racist. I keep saying that like a discuss that. It's a benefit that this person got there be even though they're black is racist and it's insulting to the people that you're suggesting that the lesser there and so getting their as good for you. It's crazy it should be based on the person who has the most married the most credentials for the job that whatever their race creed religion or anything. It's just so pathetic that means saying that is racist. even though it's the most inclusive possibly say we are living in this backward bizarro world where people screaming about. Anti fascism are screaming fascist. Things people screaming about anti-racism are screaming racist. Things it's ridiculous but that's always pointing out and so when you get to these positions when you get these powerful people plays framing it like that eat workplaces for effective inclusion and stay sane ability. It should be alarming trigger words for what they really actually are trying to accomplish. Now says it is imperative for all of us to realize that all this is not some far future crystal-gazing but rather change is already happening and accelerating. that is the point. It's happening now. It's already in the process as we telling you. Look at this crazy thing they're doing without anybody's without any real investment from the people and then twitter goes crazy dumb conspiracy theorists. They're telling you guys it is already underway and it's even going faster than before right now and this is the future of our world. Don't you think we should have a say in that. The problem is that you speak up about just general concerns like the doctor did. Maybe this isn't the right thing for you. Oh suddenly you're domestic terror. Suddenly you're conspiracy theorists putting everybody at risk that's what has been created and it's quite alarming never member in two thousand eighteen. This is microsoft's the two thousand twenty lions universal digital identification. And you were. They laid out exactly the plan for creating this kind of thing. Now you can. You don't have to believe this is necessarily one and the same but you have to acknowledge the reality that it opens up a window for using what's happening now to achieve the school now. This is the fundamental mission of creating a universal identification system that incorporates every person on the globe using modern technology and the support of various governments financial institutions and more is the goal is the goal hidden behind the humanitarian cause. Which seems to suggest that that's a a cover a beard not real but when forward just last part. I went over a lot more of this yesterday. But i want you to see just the last part to recognize this. It says digital identity should be with the person from birth to death and this getting into the next part. Recognize what that really means. Because i said last time you already have records that are attached to your name on any computer in the government. So what are they really talking about. They're talking about something that's on you in you. That does not go away that you can't toss aside or run from its in you right digital identity. That's attached to you like a computer chip. That's what we're talking about. That's what they're talking about. I'm not that's not my opinion. That's what we're talking about here. Now it says if the lack of digital identity under the current paradigm limits participation in the modern economy the lack of the same under a singular globally recognized system which is what they're trying to build. Which is what they're talking about could prevent participation entirely. Yep exactly the point. You will be ostracized. You'll be playing on the other word. I want to use a hate. I hate when i can't words banished. That's a good one that works but you will be kicked out of the society you rather just. You will be isolated. You won't be able to do anything in iraq. You won't be able to buy things go on a bus fly a plane. Anything without having conditions met in this case people thinking about the vaccine passport. That's where i see this going. But their point is simply that they have that power they could turn you off. If the alliance's goal is a globally recognized digital identity. And we're talking about the vaccine alliance. Id two thousand twenty or on both together. If that's the goal is globally recognized digital for everyone from birth to death it says what will become will that become a global mandate two thousand eighteen. We're talking about. How will it be enforced and by whom what happens those individuals who are unwilling to participate. Will there be persecuted. How end how will the implementation of identification evolved with technology beyond smartphones. Which will get into next will wearables. Implants aren't those fake news. Guess they weren't back in two thousand eighteen. Implants like those being used in sweden subways or some form of digital tattoo becoming the norm built around a single global identification standard. O- supported by microsoft. Who will govern this evolving global community especially since non-participants in this system would be unable to buy or sell goods or services. Here is something from nine months ago. Barreda partners with vile connect on wearable monitor for covid nineteen patients nursing homes interesting point at didn't nursing homes even to this point right now it is still problem. People are still and we'll get to that in the vaccine part of today there are there are kinds of examples of people in fact getting the vaccine and then dying but they claim it on something else or claimed on co claim. It's over nineteen or something else but in any case we're still seeing people die in like crazy is specifically nursing homes. Last time i checked we're talking about upwards of eighty percent of all deaths and i believe in most cases over ninety percent of those deaths are over eight years old to be clear what i said. There was over eighty percent of deaths in general or happening in nursing homes in new york. I think it was something. Like seventy nine percent or seventy something. I can't remember off top of my head but the vast majority are happening in nursing homes and of them. Most of them are over eighty. Which by the way when you factor that in it basically shows you that this isn't really happening but as so many other things do as well but nine months ago as you can see. Nine months ago they're talking about using these and by the way they did so the first thing we should be thinking about is how come. This didn't help them. Their point is well. This will help us monitor these people and make sure that they get sick. We can do something jump in so either didn't work or they did work and they didn't care. Now go through this and makes them more points as we go through it but recognize. This is exactly what they're telling us is not real the idea that they have some kind of implantable now. This is an in your body thing. It's minimally invasive it's barely it's the provision was even more but this has little things that go into your skin as recognizing the dangers presented by covert nineteen to the elderly and immuno compromised nine months ago in particular. The biomedical advanced research and development. Authority barda has partnered with vital connect. Which is this product to create a wearable monitor. That could provide early warning. Signs and improve patient outcomes so this is medical pre crime as well device known as the vista solution consists of four primary components the vital patch clinical grade biosensor evista tablet a vital cloud and the center. Central monitoring station sounds great nursing homes in particular. We'll be targeted. Love the word targeted for the devices granted continuous monitoring to guarantee early indications of health charge changes or at least to inform on cove nineteen changes remotely so it didn't so the point is will jumping the we'll get to our show you next. These things are were rolled out to some degree and nothing happened in fact this was the worst situation in any circumstance of all of us. Go for nineteen discussion. So did they gain information from that. Are we to believe that they have real time. Biometric data from every one of these people are in some cases that died during the situation. Couldn't we then be able to use that to find out what went wrong and what happened. I'm sure we could or whether it was something but how much you wanna bet. We'll never get to understand. This information will never get to see this information. Deliver even get talked about other than on the show but it says the us department of health and human services of course states that early indication of patient deterioration or cardiac arrhythmia. We'll give healthcare professionals the ability to intervene earlier improve the clinical management of patients. Now nine months ago surely that worked. Well obviously not so again remember. Either it worked and they didn't do anything with the information or didn't work at all and they didn't say anything and we're still pushing the idea of the same wearable monitors despite that so going forward now on july second we can recognize that it is continuing forward break so we're talking about the vital patch or a vital connect here it says barreda backs push for clinical great wearable to detect signs of over nineteen. So remember this. This wasn't a one off. This is another example of them continuing this push in july second. The biomedical advanced barreda has teamed with northwestern university. This time spinout song how to develop a clinical grade wearable for detecting and monitoring cova nineteen infections. The partners plan to file with the fda this month for marketing. Authorisation bartered described the device as a band aid sized wireless patch that sits at the base of the throat. Now here it says. The northwestern research referred to the vital connect which we were just talking about in their editorial but contend that there's room for another device designed for the same idea so now we can see that barda and your government are investing and working with multiple groups and this is not even talking about profuse which is another one in regards to creating these kind of biometric wearables remember. These are discussions. That are at if you talk about this on twitter. You're considered fake news. All being built specifically under the guise of covid nineteen now. Here's the actual vital connect twitter feed on this is back on may fifth says under the us fda. I always interesting. All these things are being given emergency use authorization despite the fact that. There's a lot of caveats to that that weren't being discussed which i'll probably get into a no show with the idea of such things like hydroxychloroquine in regard to the authorization of use for that. I probably have it right over here. But i don't want to search for i'll lose my place but the idea is that there's i showed you that link talking about how i'd roxie. Chloroquine have been approved for years decades as been used for years. I mean it's not the fact that it suddenly became something that i am i am. I don't wanna promote any big pharma drug. I think all of these things are dangerous but the point is that one more dangerous than anything else is just weird and obviously political but the point is under the idea of what your emergency use authorization actually is. I'm gonna drive me crazy. I just wanna find this. Look at that. it's right there. I one so here is stella. You guys recognize her from previous discussions in standing up and speaking out about the reality here as you can see. This is just a on a video sharing. But i talked about this already as it says. Hydroxy clerk was approved by the us fda nineteen fifty five. That's been used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Since then it's sold over the counter. In many countries as well characterized safety profile on. No no. I'm not advocating for use of any of this stuff. I'm i'm advocate for anything. But for anything that comes from pharmaceuticals and big pharma. My point is that that is a weird thing to see when wh- the way the media has portrayed this but what he's point but benz here's pointing out he says. Is it true that big pharma could not get an emergency authorization for vaccines if hydroxy corcoran and and and many other things had worked in the spring. Here's what he's saying. That's how i read this from the fda how about you know read with the says it's under section five six four of the the federal food drug and cosmetic act basically says the fda commissioner may allow unapproved medical products like. We're talking about what these vaccines for approved. Medical products to be used in emergency diagnose treat and everything else win. There are no adequate approved and available alternatives. Right so you could realistically argue. That means that they needed to make sure. It didn't work or didn't get used widely so that they could push and justify the emergency use for the vaccine. Isn't that interesting thought. Doesn't necessarily mean it's the case but realized that this is what we're talking about now that authorizing this for use at a time with an emergency authorization. Use a really pretending that there's no viable alternative for a a monitor. I mean think about that. There's there's a lot of really kind of loosey goosey actions happening here where there's no they're not following any guidelines or any regulation. They're just that they're just simply say. Hey we're we're in danger. You gotta pandemic going on so who cares about rules. How dare you talk about rules when people are dying right. That's the kind of mentality half and half of the believe that the other half no they're using it as an excuse but may fifth emergency use authorization so it is happening. That's important understand going forward. Fda announced vital paths may be effective. You know it's it's it's being pushed out in the world. Vital patch keeps tabs on this. I wanted to play for you now. That says the fda granted connect vital emergency use authorization in the fight against corona virus to monitor patients. Vital copd van horrors joins tyler mathisen on cnbc to discuss the technology and its applications. Now actually let me do this No i didn't let me just play it right here. So take a listen to what he has to say here. This is pretty alarming. Actually of our next guests company just received an emergency use authorization from the fda this week or its product to be used in the monitoring of patients with covid nineteen. We know in the chat if that's loud enough for you and explain what it is and how it works on our. He's the ceo of vital connect feeder. Welcome good to have you with us. Tell us about your product which is a monitoring act that can tell remotely lots of things about among other things. My heart sure sir. Thanks for having me in. It's a pleasure to be here Versus four we were star era of silicon valley far where technology meets medical device. And there's a big part to start with just what we were talking about. Just we're worried about this is a this is silicon valley suddenly getting involved in your healthcare. Good times really. Since two thousand eleven we have an inventing a biosensor since two thousand eleven right so this is definite why as it only suddenly been talked about. Now this is something that we used to talk about. Smart dust which will get into an admit. It was a discussion along time ago. It's been around for a decade. Why is it accurate. Why do people act like it's crazy conspiracy theory because there's something going on around all of this there's more happening here and the re if they could work on these things openly two thousand eleven and people like monsef salau in that hepburn can be aggressively forward on their direction for biomedical bio bio electric medicine bio implantable and all of a sudden they both it just gets quiet and both are now. Working on operation. Warp speed doesn't necessarily true anything but that's interesting and it. It begs the question. Where did all of this go not just these patches we're talking about all kinds of invasive things that are actively being worked on ultimately takes the observation abilities of an icu and we miniaturize it down to a biosensor about the size of a dime and dime sized. Biosensor is housed in a pack. Which by the way. I wanna point out you'll see in a moment. It's sort of ridiculous to me that these things are the size of a dime. It really is because we're going to. We're going to get you a moment here. We'll show you that for a decade. Now they've had things that are far more advanced. I would argue. That are far far far smaller. So is it only to slowly coax us into using these things right so we can get make it large and funky and and big on so we can feel comfortable with it. I a genuine question. Because i know that they could make these things way smaller right. Now which is a fixed automation body over their hearts and therefore we can monitor these patients remotely on back to a command center anywhere in the world. A command center like we you. We need to pick up on. The verbiage is being used here. Doctor does not. I mean dr can say whatever they want. He knows maybe was a doctor that used to be in the military but doctors don't usually say command center when they're talking about the observation of a patient they just just don't and here we're talking about a real world trackable information that feeds back to wherever they wanted to go. That's scary to me. So essentially what we're able to do is quarantine ovid nineteen patients safely from healthcare providers in other members of society that are not ovid nineteen Now ask whether that i mean. Obviously does you just quarantine. Didn't say by choice right so we're talking about people that get these to help them. But you're quarantined and this gets put on you then sound like it's your choice of provide them with the observational care. That would otherwise receive in oslo ensuring that we're watching for signs and symptoms of deterioration info sizing symptoms accelerates. The aren't really need hospitalization. We can quickly get them to the hostile smallest lightest biosensor available. I know that's not true. I didn't even pick up on that last time. That's simply false. I mean i'll i'll show it next. Isn't that revealing right. The fact that they have to say that means that they were lied to. By whoever is working on this or the media lab to you because they know the agenda as do not scare you away in any sense. That's freak flagrantly Dishonest it really is just thinking more about the. There's a couple of thing only go back. One point real quick of deterioration in emphasize. Symptoms accelerates the point where they need hospitalization we can quickly get them to the hostile. I'll i think ultimately that you you could acknowledge that having the ability to monitor somebody in an honest altruistic setting and not risk somebody getting whatever that's that makes sense like from from real from standpoint and zooming. That's the only thing that's happening here clearly. It's not that is something you and to be honest that you could say that's a good development but the problem is you can say that about a lot of different things technologies the way these things are used in most cases could be good or bad. It's about how they're applied right. And that's the thing to think about here lying about what they're using usually a good indication that they're not being honest so this is not for a hospital setting this is for people who are outside of a hospital. How does it communicate back. And and who who receives the notice that there may be a problem an atrial fibrillation or something like that. Go through cell phone or what. Sure so the The data is collected bowel center on the patch. It is said to relay which is either a tablet or a cellphone. Samsung tablet on which to me doesn't sound very secure to be honest right just relaying between your phone to somewhere else you know. Somebody can comment on that. But that just seems pretty. Sounds insecure and that information is sent to o'clock news on protective club. Now it's an amazon cloud then. We're all good guys. That's not been tied into every alarming thing we've ever talked about that cloud we can provide the access through a website. Url any healthcare provider can access that information either from the hospital. We offer the physician's office really anywhere in the world that they are as long as they have a pc cool so when they talk about this in your face. It'll be all about privacy forward but when they say that as i always point out they don't mean the doctors the government the people involved company silicon valley anybody else that just happens to have a p. c. They mean your neighbor n even then. I probably don't even believe that with the point is that this is always the case and they always play a shell game with the information to keep you thinking whatever it is they need to think. You're not scared away. So if i were having some kind of cardiac episode that would show up on a provider or a monitor a monitoring systems a device at the other end and they could either call you or call nine one one. If if the circumstances warranted this. I would gather is of particular interest for those individuals who have been or are being treated with a hydro cork winner. Cora quin which is the antimalarial drug of that is believed by some to have some usefulness here but also comes with some coronary risk. Am i right andre. As right so reason we received the immersive the emergency use authorization for two reasons number one. We are low patient monitoring technology that has the ability to monitor temperature. We've goten thermometer. number two patients respiratory rate we all know that ovid nineteen is largely a a respiratory virus in early the important or two which is the measurement of the level of oxygen and asia's bloodstream. Body posture fall detection activity. This goes way beyond monitoring your vitals understand that like that this goes. This is a real world tracking device. Which doesn't seem necessary. Unless you tied in with the alarm. The the agenda of today sat contact tracing and social distancing and you know the whole dig the thing together which is interesting because this was developed long before that and was even even the emergency authorization us was given before we got your point where this was so intense so clearly. They knew what they were doing. So we can measure the signs and symptoms of nineteen. However we all know that hydroxychloroquine is a is a blue straw throughout the united states and local. It's interesting that he said that. Because if you go through the feed of vital connect it's weird they keep bringing up hydroxychloroquine ought and even the way he made it sound. It made it sound like it was kind of suspicious. You know in this guy's well it's not like it's pretty common as you funny that even that happened between them drowsy. Chloroquine happens to have is what's known as a prolonged ut as a fancy name for irregular heartbeat in many patients that are getting the strub are at risk for a serious Irregular heartbeat. That could be fatal. We're the only technology available in the medical space that has the ability to monitor the signs and symptoms. What i find interesting here is that there may be italian for the justification for the emergency use for this under the hydroxychloroquine discussion. Might be worth digging in right there but the idea that this is. You know the complications from this drug. That may or may not have. That shouldn't have been used and trump bad guy kind of a thing. It's interesting right and for those watching right now. May just be tuning in for the first time to party. Illusion guys now trump supporter night not a supporter of any political party support. And i remember that. But interesting though i just thought about that but going forward on this a couple more points on their their stream the vital patches fix the patient's chest and constantly streaming key buydell data key vital signs. And then we have this. It says we are thrilled to partner with barda in an effort to improve patient outcomes and at for at risk patients. Here's the actual tweet. We are partnering with vital. Connects this barreda. Your government to test a wearable wireless device to continuously monitor as nursing home patients so again. Here's may twentieth. They're doing it right. They are using these to monitor patients in nursing homes. So where's all that data. What happened if eighty percent people died in nursing homes. Wouldn't we like to see how this all went down and on top of that doesn't mean that this was being used. Wow this going on. Why didn't they change what they were doing. Why aren't they changing it. Still people are still dying like crazy in these nursing homes in. We're acting like us totally nuts. Grove nineteen no. They are being killed by the now since of our government in this case. I'm beginning to wonder whether this was an experiment in patching them up with all these things letting this happen and monitoring them on the way down. I mean that's certainly a possibility. We've been tested on such similar situations in the past but going forward. I think it was only one more point on here just to show you. The this was an interesting one. The internet of things cybersecurity improvement act was recently approved by the house. And the senate all these internet of things. five g legislate all legislation's been happening quietly undercoat. Nineteen i the the video. I did on youtube over a million views deleted because they claimed i was lying about five g and all i pointed out was that trump quietly signed to five g bill under covid nineteen which was true and even forced to admit that but yeah the video is still gone. They don't care about the truth. The point is this is all happening and interesting point. That whitney was just talking about is that it's obvious that five g is a linchpin to the agenda right. There's a lot going on there without. That doesn't seem to operate the same way now. It says the vital connect applause this effort as it can raise the bar for security across healthcare for forty billion. So the idea that this is tied in with the same concept that you can't operate these things the way that they need to without the new five g. infrastructure and that's why there's clearly an aggressive effort to stifle any discussion about five gene. That way interesting. Isn't it now it styled see believe that was basically it. But i wanted to point out at the end of this year old. So here we are ending up Oh maybe it was the other one but so the point was just to show you that this is happening right. These are real things that are being rolled out your governments involved. There was another one that i was looking at In regard to another which was that here. We are profuse. Okay sorry i do. I just wanna make sure it wasn't missing something. There's an interesting point about profuse and win. their stream. stop slept brings us into the next point right so vital connect was being rolled out in may twenty twenty being used in regard to nursing homes being tested on people to be able to watch how they die. How they don't do anything about what they're dealing with. Whatever to monitor these people so remember in two thousand eighteen per future not vital connect but profuse the other the other thing. That's fake news conspiracy. Theories discussion is developing a family of tiny biosensors right the way smaller than that even in two thousand eighteen by the way so even that is an effort to miss inform you in a subtle way but just just a point is realize that this is happening. Two thousand eighteen for few sub. Here's refuses wireless injectable biosensor january. Twenty ninth twenty twenty this all you can see the development of this another profuse aspect as you can see in the next video. I'll show you. Is they call minimally invasive but in fact goes in your skin under your arm this part of it is just the thing used to read the information from the thing. That's under your skin course. That's all they ever show. You is the thing that you use on top so you think that it's just an outer out they're always trying to subtly deceive you now. This was in on may excuse me. March third twenty twenty profuse. An partners announce initiation of study to measure early signs of influenza through biosensor technology. Wait a minute why in the world win the middle of the biggest pandemic and a century. So we're told with this group decide to use this study. Influenza doesn't that seem sort of counterintuitive when literally everything else everywhere is directed to covid nineteen. It's almost like they didn't want to connect these things together right. Didn't want you to be like. Oh look professor and talking about over nineteen look. They're working. they're the same thing. Maybe that's why because understand that announcing this early measures of stop of early signs of influenza. It applies in the exact same way to covid nineteen so much. We'll just say early signs of virus detection. But i find it very telling that it was influenza. They wanted you thinking about in this case and then of course as we go forward and see that influenza just magically doesn't exist this year. isn't that funny purview. So health company is that is pioneering. The next generation of personalized medicine today announced the initiation of the study that will use the company's minimally invasive injectable biosensor technology. The lou may which is the name of the actual product oxygen platform as a a keep saying auction platform. Even though they're just they're literally talking about monitoring viruses as a platform to potentially assist in the early detection of influenza outbreaks. Guess what the study conducted at the imperial college. London isn't interesting. how they keep popping up. Throughout this whole process provide potential indicators of human response to infection or exposure to disease provide potential indicators of human response sort of monitoring you. The goal of this study is to is to develop an early. Nfl excuse me. Identification system to detect not only disease outbreaks but biological attacks and pandemics biological attacks so the point is in march. Perfuse a is using this or aiming to use this in regard to virus detection right so think about the mentality in the direction of where this is being aimed. We can see it. It's being built. Now here's the video so you could see what it actually looks like and actually showing you that this is in fact under the skin. Transformative science smart technology on the outside with various kings own inside a singing movie microsystems by provis. Lots of october medical grade on your part time continues through continuous data stream. Now the point is that. I've already read into this and a lot more. I think i've done this in a pass show but the idea is that this is they use this piece barrow back here. The us this piece to pull the data but they say themselves that this data can be pulled like vr of rfid chip basically by not not ship but through the tape technology. This can be remotely accessed. That was that was discussed and other other articles about this technology. I remember there's multiple versions and even going back to the beginning of the discussion. Remember that we're vital connect. There's also was this. One called sonic health. There's a lot of these. There's a lot of these different wearables that have been worked on back. This is two thousand twenty this one. This is from two thousand eighteen though the discussion for this or was here we go. It's it's always been developing and it's weird that this isn't being discussed as their openly doing this and talking about stopping the development of these viruses. Now here's mark injecting sensor under your skin could prevent your pandemic. so they'll quibble about. They were pushing this about cove. Nineteen that was the point as they show it right. I mean this is the as screaming influenza in their discussion their products and their documentation. But this was being directed of covid nineteen now going back to the profuse twitter. Feed one thing that. I find very very telling right going off of the dates. We're talking about here march third when when they started getting into this. Suddenly the twitter feed just died at least a m- within that month. There's only one more tweet after this on may fourth. That's it how does that make sense right now. It could be nothing. But i continue to recognize these. The absence here doing something. That is the i mean arguably being discussed is being discussed but arguably is being discussed is the most important thing that you know the future of our bio electric sensors and making sure we can fight off and and they're the one of the most important discussion points. Excuse me discussion points and technologies and tie back to all the right people and all the right places and that just blink out after may. I don't know about that. But i guess we'll find out what we as this goes forward but regardless of any of it for all those have been watching this whole time and going. That's all fake news. You're misrepresenting all of it. None of that's even as dangerous. You make it sound. Here is the actual reality smart dust. The idea of what these things actually are and what is really going on here. Now this we'll see if i get it without playing right off the best things we see. This is an expert speaking on this discussion now. Include this is actually video right here. You can't see it. I'm looking at the screen. But maker con alister allan and the inevitability of smart dust. Now this is an important discussion. That i hope you will pay. I hope you'll actually go through and listen to the whole thing. But i'm gonna play a cup just some parts of this and we'll go through listen to him but think about what he's saying here and how this relates to where we are now and what this means if this was an existence along time ago right if ten years ago you have the kind of stuff that you're seeing here showing you. This'll be in the video but these are salt. Crystals does that salt table salt next to the size of what these actual bio chips are the real size of them and he says this was years ago. So think about that in connection with the idea that the smallest biosensor possible for cutting edge technology for covid nineteen spacey's we see today are going away buttons. Oh and that's the point. It starts out with your set. The table is that he's talking about how what we're dealing with today. And this is exactly my point. That the the biosensor the refuses sensor is the is the intermediate step between what we're doing now and where they want us to be and what he's saying that these things are slowly going away and you'll see a picture of it your wearables. Your phone your headphones. You're you're nanno. Patch your perfuse patch. Even those things will eventually disappear in you or the world around you. That's the future and it always has been and they're making that the case now no matter what you think it's happening and we can all see it if you're just willing to recognize what's really going on buttons are great. The interfaces we see today are going away. Buttons buttons are a great hack. It's great you. I convention buttons in fact the whole desktop part competing paradigms. It's a great hack but it's going to go away and just look note the things we're talking about here. I mean even those themselves or you know the wearable watches the trackable the things to actually track your heart rate and then share that with people that you don't know about all kinds of things that will eventually go into being invisible pointing out the device computing behinds. Those interfaces aren't going to go away. they'd get up. Just become invisible. We're still essentially the banging the rocks together stage for this sort of stuff and you haven't really seen anything yet. So this is closer to the end of the vision. This powder size chip salt crystals. This is a small thing is something called. the i should point out the just as i think it's clear but in general is always good to point out that this is edited. Obviously it's a twelve minute. thirteen minute. Video cut it down for time. Obviously but Just know that so hopefully the full thing but no way my manipulating what he's saying chip from attach -i is the smallest commercially available. Rfid system in the world and can be pulse powered by radio waves. it doesn't require battery. You can literally stature for that point. Make sure there is a difference between the biosensors. We're talking about an rfid chips but in that same sense these there the idea that dime sized biosensors the smallest it can be is simply not true now is do you get the point. Let's keep watching stuff like dust or embedded into sheet to paper. And you're the really interesting thing about this. Technology is this was commercially released ten years ago so ten years ago. And we're really gonna pretend that ten years cents this by the way. This video is from two thousand fourteen. So we're talking about two thousand. Four is what he's talking about so from two thousand four to two thousand twenty one. Are we really gonna pretend like. They can't make something than a dime. So the inevitability of smart so what a smart dust. Well smartest of course isn't a new concept is the originated with darker back in the ninety s. Arpaio exactly right. Whitney and i have talked about this on shows and been censored as fake news literally been called on twitter as talking about conspiracy theories four talking about what darpa is literally building and showing it on their website. This world is broken. Cove ninety s broken this world. And in general purpose computing sensors wireless network networking all bundled up into millimeter scale sensor modes drifting in the air currents flex of computing power. Settling on your skin ingested monitoring you inside and you don't think that's possible. This is the michigan micro moult. It's a cubic millimeter in size and endeavoring the speaker before. Yes it runs an our on processor right. So what he's saying gone your body right runs on your body and this is what's so crazy about both chips. He showed and this one. This runs on a hill into it minutes but a bunch of different things that produced your vibration heat and so on and so these things don't need anything. But you as he said ingested the two thousand and four guys. I mean what would stop somebody from putting this out into the world a decade ago. We wouldn't even know about it. It's just it's incredible to think that and even in the discussion of vaccine and whether or not something would be in them. Which i can't prove there's no i haven't seen any evidence that verifiably says that. Yes there in these vaccines but could it happen. Of course it could. Could somebody do it without on the people. Of course it could so it should not be a crazy discussion but as we will know today most these things that are crazy. Discussions are in back ken to be or can be some of the most accurate discussions history shown that things like entrails and nsa spying on you and lithium and a a lithium might probably in your water to but fluoride in your water right. These are things that were absolute like looney tunes crazy stuff like go put on your tin foil hat kind of ridiculous mocking stuff. That is one hundred percent true that we know that. I mean think about how crazy it is to be in a world where florida your water is so dumb crazy that you should be committed and then years later. Oh it is in your water but it's for your own safety and we can't reconcile those things. Those same people can't come back and go wait a minute. Or did they really just admit that and then they act like it was normal and they didn't say you caught us. we lied. They act like they never lied. Like it's people are making people go crazy. It really is so we're talking about something like this or even whether or not it's something that could be put in you without knowing it. Remember that your government. The us government has experimented on you and people abroad. Unwittingly two hundred thirty one times. I've glee. i've said that so many times if you one times it's been admitted to the cdc has admitted this operation sea spray is always a good one to look up people died. They tested it on unwitting americans for their own benefit. But yeah Wouldn't happen today. Of course not computer. Data processing data storage calms and. It's probably as close to the true smart dust vision from the early days of come so far. Smart dot com. So think about the idea of say people hearing voices or manipulating people the idea of a targeted at individual right. These are things that i haven't really dove into on this channel. It's very deep topic. But think about that he. This is real. This is not a hypothetical discussion. This is old. This has the ability to have wireless comes. It's just it's just it's baffling. The this was two thousand four guys or other. Small ones were this. We're still talking about two thousand fourteen or before at the very least harvest energy from the environment around them and to communicate by mesh network and of course the energy is the key problem with can make the computing small. The energies hards. Sorry to keep stopping it. I know that this is actually a lot of stopping. But i just keep hearing this a mesh network. That means that these things are interconnectable. They're the things that are on your skin right. He's talking about the dust size particles that land on your skin. You breathe in your nose your mouth. It goes in your body. They can connect with each other right so that you and the other person next to you those they're mesh so they're communicating. They know where you are. They know where the other person is not. Close they argue. They know how you're feeling. They know if you're scared. I mean these are talking about the vibrations. This is alarming stuff. Yeah someone mentioned the voice of naruto. I think it's actually different sort of technology as more of like a direct being kind of thing but nonetheless. It's the same point right. This is stuff that people act are just absolutely out the out of the room and here he is telling you. It's at the very least absolutely possible. Somebody could choose to do that tomorrow. So how can it be fake news. Anyone that's actually taken a laptop per their cell phone apart. We'll know that the size of the board compared to the size of the batteries is big deal so think tiny solar cells power. I know that's not the only re- the whole bunch of other passive energy generation tate techniques vibration harvesting for instance already been scaled down quite nicely and the sort of my needs amounts of energy generator. Actually quite well suited to the my needs amount of power that this sort of thing needs and of course at least for medical or or bio- use the body heat is another obvious potential energy source after how much sunlight so you're going to get an inside into cranial. Bleeds made ourselves mechanical turks inside our own software where chat with ourselves. Mechanical turk inside other people's software. Isn't that interesting thing of cog right. You know the cobb in their machine. That's it's we're already there whether we realize it or not as he says we're we're cogs their machine like it's just it's just a good. It's a good way to think about it. And there are two ways that this could go and don't make mistaken thinking the decisions were making today with the into things aren't going to affect that. What are the architecture for smart. Dust works in peer to peer manner to make computing power and sensing available to individuals or whether the architectures and centralized command and control in a few hands. Exactly the only real questions. He will have access to sensors the computing power and to the data. The generates personally for one. I don't want world where the google smart dust in the microsoft smartvestor having a battle for my temperature reading on my skin. Think about that. I mean that is next level. That is one of the most. i mean. you're talking about the idea. and that's a very real world scenario. I mean think about. That's like that is the war of the future. If we're talking about a situation where in syria we had the cia and the was the cia and the f. Forget how it worked out. Well the state department. The cia in the state department both backing different groups in syria and differ points. They were fighting each other. So you've got the government funding different people and fighting each other. I mean it wasn't intentional right. You've got the assist and we're talking about the same idea. So now you've got google amazon vying for your data your biometrics and what if it comes to a point where they actually begin to make it a you know competitive thing where they're actually vying for that control and would they then make it some kind of offensive version. That could fight. that often. the more does that mean. Do they even consider what it will do to your body. Of course they don't right. This is the future of this and this is what is so crazy that nobody anywhere is talking about this and it's not tomorrow it's now it's currently being built currently used currently happening and they're making those decisions without us. They're building the world. We will be living in without any input from the people that they are the whole consent the governed and all if we actually realized we have all the power. That's why they're trying to take it away from us. That's what all this is really about. The diffusion computing into the environment will mean not just the competing is always available but also the competing office the possibilities of continuous monitoring and surveillance. This is the promise of the iot. It's the threat of the internet if things and we have to think those don't know the term we're talking about five gene right. The internet of things is the concept of five detect and going forward from there too. But that's that is the technology needed for this kind of interconnectivity of it means things like having smart everything smart tv smart couch smart armchair smart refrigerator and they all mash the all communicate and then think about how the smart dust on your body is communicating. Meshing with those as. Well all around you and anywhere you are at any moment. The data is being fed and monitoring walked and controlled. And the next thing. You got your door that says hey. You're going to be sick tomorrow. You gotta come with us. This is actually what they're talking about. That may sound crazy to some people except it's literally what is actually happening. They're actually talking about this concept of monitoring you and letting you know when and if you'll be sick this is not next week. It is not a year from now. It is happening real time. Air fleet are the architectures. We're putting together for these sort of these sort of things now because we will go there no matter what we decide one way or the other. They're taking you there. The first tenuous glimpse of this reaction to that when hugo ball nest and people panic about their data and privacy. I'm not quite sure why to google. Buying nest nest was collecting any more data than they were before. But that's what it took. Because google become concerned about right but the idea the point he's making there is that it's always been there. The problem is not the it's not. The problem is google as well as everything else. But it's not just google. It's not just amazon right. These are merely pieces of a larger game. The idea that nest is in existence. All should have been the right then. We should have been like no way too late though. Right what's google took it over and made it ubiquitous. will now. it's far too late. That's what he's saying now. Now is the time for us to do something about what they're trying to do tomorrow. Otherwise it'll be too late. Mainframes desktops to laptops to cell phones so your blood stream so literally blowing in the wind around you and the architectural choices we're making today to build. The internet of things are fundamentally going to affect the way those endpoint devices. The mature technology looks at the internet and the crypto currency the blockchain technology rather than the analogy. I make same idea right. These things i if we do not play a part. They're gonna they're building this regardless right. And i mean maybe we should try to stop it in general shirley certainly should but the point is in any case if we do not take control of these things that they're using to building control our lives. We won't have any say in how these things go forward. The internet is always the example if people had not turned the internet the way that we haven't used it as a way to communicate and free ourselves and fight back. Who knows what this would look like right now. Now the same thing with block jiang technology. That's where they're using this already and a lot of alarming ways but so too can we to fight back to use these things to catalog and in the ideas that if they were using these ledgers right now that were completely open for all of us to see we will be able to track the military spending. We'd be able to track every vote in regard to what actually happened in the election. They'll never do that though the only do it once. They control the way they can manipulate that technology because they're all corrupt scared about the way we're making some of those architectural choices about the internet of things so if you're a startup building internet of things things where if you're a bigger corporation if you are one of those huge consolidated conglomerates of huge corporations sit back think about the sort world you wanna live in because the choices you're making are going to change the world on right now as far as i'm concerned the internet of things people including myself here because i do a bunch of internet of things. Things aren't making good choices. Yup and that's the point guys. They're not making good choices right now. The question should i guess could be. Is that intentional. are they. Just clumsy are they just making mistakes. Green that's what they want you to think. But i think we know by now that that's simply not the case they're not making choices and in fact those choices are leading you full speed ahead in the direction that is giving them all the power and control over your body and there and these examples are literally everywhere everywhere now to today right things we talked about it all back before this and it's all hypothetical this is literally being discussed today february second but you know to not in not in not from a long time ago drops dystopia now. The of interesting point. If i had read this article to start people would act like it was crazy. They would have heard. This isn't like that so stupid. That's just a hypothetical sci fi futuristic. Accept the fact that i just showed you. These things have been in existence for decades right so drops of dystopia scientists develop wearable sensor that monitors your health via your tears Yet the profusely chip is a dime. And that's the smallest we can make it though trust me. Researchers at penn state university have developed a wearable sensor that can provide real time medical data on eye or mouth diseases by monitoring person's saliva or their tears. The professor at penn state university claims the device which employs micro or nanno scale technology could potentially revolutionize the monitoring treatment of certain health conditions. So how in the world can this be happening. Same old simultaneously. The guy can claim that these things are the best we can do. It's insulting and people buy it. Tiny wearable sensors placed near the tear. Ducts or mouth can monitor a patient's condition rapid continuous basis precluding the need to wait for laboratory results with the with the data viewable on a smartphone or mon a medical monitor in real time. Meaning they could track and watch. What's happening elsewhere now. This got way way. More crazier than i thought it would when i read this article right. This is why it's always important to read more than the headline. i couldn't this. I was like i had to re. I had to double check this. Like i'm thinking this this can't be right. It is the device. Purportedly not only collects data on the patient but it also medicate them as necessary via a micro needle deployed through the skin in the eye or the mouth. That's crazy not not be. It's crazy because of how act aggressively. They're trying to pretend like this is not happening so i guess it's just totally okay in normal to have a nanotechnology size like smart dust size thing that can be that can go in your tears or in your ear. I ducked that can simultaneously monitor your health and also deliver medicine. I mean that's incredible. not only. Is that just incredible feat of technology. But how is this being discussed. How is the ship. The smallest we can do how government continually lying about how this stuff doesn't even exist. And how is this. Not a very logical discussion to be had around. What's currently happening. Try talking about this on twitter tomorrow and see what they say. Midst credible now. It says quote through nanno to micro steel ports on the device the size the device that you can't even see that's on your i ducked we. Can we can probe the cell the cell because to deliver molecular drugs for treatment in a very efficient process at the cellular level. Now just me think about if that's possible. Think about the kind of thing we're talking about the with the vaccine and what these things could potentially do and what they could change them to do or even if we're talking about the way they talk about the are a vaccine. They actually talk about it. They call it a platform. They talk about it like it's computer program that can be updated and changed when new variant. But doesn't that also mean that could potentially be changed now or real. Now that's not how they're describing it but doesn't that seem to suggest the kind of technology or the release that it's possible. Yeah this is a lot of theorizing. Shouldn't we be allowed to do that. Based on what we can see in front of us not in the world today where you're only allowed to do what you're told and listen to the quote experts up until they say something different than they're not only not an expert anymore that we've talked to the new expert who's a wall and he's willing to say well they say right. So you're only an expert. You agree with the mainstream media. Isn't that funny. He also claims the device can afford access to gene and coating information on the cell so severely this is the size of a say possibly paving the way for a more targeted types of medicine than currently possible. So not only does it monitor. Your body monitor. Your vitals monitor your movement monitor. What's happening and how you feel. Well that's actually. I'm jumping point a little bit but we'll get to that next emotion but on top of that it can medicate you based on what they tell us happening. I guess we'll just have to trust them. But then on top of that even more it can actually monitor control and access and probe and deliver your coating information. Your gene information to whoever over needs it. You know people that are only doing it for your best interest. Of course a big controversy when people were gathering up all the dna information and yeah. I guess we don't care about that anymore. Now it says in kate in the case of dystopia and sounding technology. Oh excuse me. In case the dystopia technology has already gotten your alarm bells ringing the researchers guests who tech giant amazon and the us national institute of health nih to discuss large scale manufacturing and rolling out of what the scientists claim is a mature technology. So look at how that came around right. This thing just couldn't be real or must at least be fake. New sci-fi has gone from being the most next level thing that seems to contradict what they're telling us the best they can do to literally being built right now by amazon and then h help you to fight covid nineteen let that sink in while we're not even allowed to act like this is real or that they would dare us some kind of nanu implantable technology that aligns with the idea of fighting covid nineteen or vaccinations or medical treatment of any kind because any variation discussion is completely fake. According to the mainstream media. Oh as well right now february fourth two thousand twenty one in addition to everything else. We just said. New artificial intelligence can detect emotion with radiate with radio ways. So when we're talking about the kind of implantable that clearly utilize the kind of technology. Whatever the late this will eventually be want the idea that they can use this to to basically with the technology already your body detect how. You're feeling what you're thinking. I know that sounds crazy but there was. I read stuff five years ago. The talked about the way that they were using your waves in the way your brainwaves look to decide what kind of things you were feeling now. Think about where we are now deciding if they can actually read them. Decide what you're actually thinking. What like right down to ideas at the end of the day. This is all real world and we're pretending like this has no bearing on what they're building right now just like the guy just told us the choices they make now and are making now are building the world we're going to be living in and we don't have any say in this right now now on top of all of that. I just thought this was just the absurd cherry on top of everything talking about radio waves and being able to use this data to borrow bounce off in your implantable or whatever else you're wearing or will your your phone or anything at your smart device in your house. Amazon is now installing. Always on surveillance cameras in its delivery vans those vans that are everywhere all the time. I i see five five a day when i go out there everywhere. Yeah they're using that to spy on you now now. This is what you should sign this to be a part of something that's fighting back amazon's deliver vans are everywhere and they'll soon be watching you. Cbs cnbc just reported. That amazon is launching the largest corporate surveillance program in human history. Does it funny how it all comes together. The same people amazon right. we're talking about the. Don't forget who we just mentioned. Amazon is the giant amazon amazon. That the tech giant's use me is involved with building these tear-duct size medical advice gave it a reading. Medical can't talk to tiny devices that can give you medicine that can monitor your body and amazons building them and in the same time they're monitoring you all the time. This is not a coincidence. Guys this is interconnected. Here's another example of how this is happening everywhere. Not even just the united states police to use a network of a thousand and the shock. Ai cameras to spotlight a person's movements february second this year private amass private eye. Researchers have figured out a way to turn the vast network of cici tv cameras into one massive surveillance network which can target specific vehicle or person. Now and shack is the the Hindi handiwork for investigator gives new law enforcement. The ability is law enforcement. The ability to the camera feeds from thousand cici. Tv video cameras to track and individual person. This is an india but realized that we just talked about the amazon cameras being used as a i think it was the africa was the door one of those brands. Where you've got the doorbell cameras. They were being used by the authorities to monitor right. This is happening without your involvement without whether or not you even allow it. it's everywhere then realized that in two thousand and nineteen scientists proposed putting netto votes in our body to create goebel super brain. But it's fake news though. Don't forget that though. It's totally not happening. If you think you're crazy but in two thousand and nineteen. They were proposing that we do that with the things that didn't exist. Isn't that great. This is literally a point in the world where we can see the truth. We can see the lies. We can see the data science information and it's just a matter of whether you're willing to look past what they're telling you is happening and that's just wild to me. How can that be the only barrier. And how can people not choose to just look past it even for curiosity. How can this be happening in two thousand nine hundred nineteen. It can be happening because it's always been a plan. A drive an agenda. We've been seeing this built. And suddenly when it's coming to fruition to fruition just drops off the map profusely goes silent in the middle of last year. Everything just gets quiet and vaccines begin to roll out. A team has proposed using nano bots create the internet of thoughts. We're instant knowledge could be downloaded just by thinking it. An international team of scientists led by members of the uc berkeley and the institute for molecular manufacturing on place that exponential progress in nanotechnology nanomedicine artificial intelligence and compute computation will lead this century to the development of a human brain cloud interface. Psychic right. the what half a year six months before seven months before eight months before we're going. Yeah we we. We think that this next year we think that is going to be the year that all of this gets kick into right and certainly there were correct or maybe they knew something that we didn't how long until we have our global super brain of nano bots. Maybe happening right now. Certainly possible certainly something. We should be allowed to ask now. I'm not actually saying that. I believe i really don't actually think limos logic with put it this way if i had to put it percentage i would say i'm like forty percent off that there's something in these things sixty percent that they're using the process of this to drive us in that direction other i can. I can prove the ladder. I can prove you. That's clearly being used. But i cannot prove with facts in evidence that there's something in there so that's just you know me by now not can't i'm not gonna report that but i'm willing to entertain possibilities and based on what we're seeing here. Is it possible. is it possible. Of course it is beyond the shadow of doubt. It is possible so we should be allowed to talk about it. Ask whether it's possible whether they're doing it whether people might have a motivation to drive it forward and on that note about vaccines. Let's talk about how this is happening or actually excuse me there. Was this last point before we get into. That forgot that. I added this. This this is interesting. This is the kind of crossover between the nanotechnology. Is i keep telling you. I believe that. The covid nineteen is going to kind of get pulled in with some kind of foreign entity where they claim we've talked about the cyber pandemic. What comes up in this article. There's an interesting crossover between these things. And i you know. I'm just theorizing i leave it to you guys to consider what this means. But it's interesting to see the constant overlap with the capital and with magazine q in the domestic terrorism and how it all sort of ties back in with dr about pandemics february. First by the way. It's i don't know why in the world is as february eighth february. Six hundred makes sense but it's february first when this published. Here's what the article says and the you can read this for yourself. You wanna read the full thing. I just want to point out some points at night and then referenced the part that i found really telling. Interestingly though i this point that i hope people can take this to heart how we can take people. We are constantly being told their doing this. And iran's hacking that in there that's why we're responding. This is a clear example of what we know as a matter of fact happened. And i want you to this needs to reflect on covert nineteen on the way that they're conducting their attacks themselves the way they're conducting their military operations that we need to question whether they're behind a lot of things that are happening just like we see right here in two thousand ten a computer worm called stuxnet which we reported on created by the us and in operation pru approved by george w bush and continued by. Obama was discovered to have devastated. Iran's nuclear program. Now there were. Were you think about wrong or their program. That isn't a crime no matter what you think about that is a crime and it gets even worse when you remember how it actually went down now. It's says when the worm escaped. Joe biden then. The vice president suspected israel of hastening the program and breaking it of a bit. She said her allegedly quote. It's got to be the israelis now. Think about how crazy that is. How much in history we know this. We know israel attacked the us liberty as people on that ship. Continue to tell us today. We know that they stole nuclear technology from the us government. We know that they're involved with things like nine. Eleven and we have israeli massad agents admitting to be mossad agents that were caught by multiple people including forty by the mainstream media of celebrating while it was happening or any number of examples and all of these things. Get completely dismissed. And it's actually somehow racist to talk about these things. The point is that joe biden can say yep. They did that. We know they did. No one gets held accountable. There's no criminal action that this is is overtly offensive. And they're still doing it today. These criminals guys. These are the criminals and whether the judge of the world trump's obama's of the world or just at the mercy of a foreign government for whatever reason or they're working together it doesn't really matter in the context of this argument now says it infected a hundred countries so that's where it becomes a major crime because they did this and then it just hurt a lot of whether other people around the whole the whole process effect one hundred countries and tens of thousands of machines before it was stopped. So we're told quote somebody just used a new weapon in this weapon will not be put back in the box. Michael hayden former. Nsa director said that somebody was the united states. It has built a boomerang is incredible. We notice yet back then. They lied they still lie about it. If you really drive to it and the point is that he said he's real did it and they did it together and they made this thing and they are if that happened was iran. Volt do you know what the us will. Do you know what they would. Do you see it every day. So why aren't they held accountable. Now think about this in the context of what's happening with covert nineteen. Which happening with the kind of manipulations are doing to drive for this technology. And whether or not they would use something before they told us about it like this but coming down to the final part it says in the spring two thousand seventeen still unknown hackers calling themselves the shadow brokers. We've talked about infiltrated. The nsa's zero day archive a box of digital pick locks right so they have these things that they use to manipulate other countries. Remember the idea is that they know that they have the ability to commit cyberattacks commit any kind of digital attack and make leave the traces of somebody else to make it look like it was iran and yet we know that and we still just listened to them when they tell us or on this. Don't prove it. They walked into the cyber equivalent of fort knox and cleaned the place out. They stole cyber weapons and keys to the kingdom. I believe that was israel. I believe that's constantly what's happening here as that's been a classic kind of familiar situation between the us government and israel's government now says every second americans plugged into the internet a hundred and twenty seven. Excuse me hungry. Seven devices and twenty-seven every second from refrigerators to thermostats to library catalogs and bicycles now think about what that means when every single one of those things is connected to a smart to the internet of things to thoughts connected to the smart devices on your skin during the pandemic the infrastructures of testing care and vaccination development and distribution have all been attacked by the way. I don't really think that's the case they've said that. Sure but have. I mean there's been a lot of claims about things but most all of them have been verified. And the idea that this this is what it comes to the as they say right here. They've been attacked in what amounts to a cyber pandemic. That's an odd things. So you're claiming people there are solely cyberattacks that they can call it a pandemic but we didn't even feel it. It didn't change anything that seems like a forced effort to make us think about that. In march twenty as the federal government. I began to frame response to covid nineteen hackers attack the department of health human services. Now all of this comes down to the idea that they're building the narrative I think when it will be blamed on an attack before and country were. They attacked vaccine infrastructure. They attack the development of vaccines. They attack a place like fort dietrich and things get out and they blame it on the attack. Any number of these things would fall into the category of a cyber pandemic and these things that could be that could be used to justify lots of things that happen because vaccines lots of things that happen because of something that gets released lots of things that happen very number of reasons right and yet it can be easily said well. They just hacked us and they have the tools because they stole from us at says. The end the arrogant recklessness of the people who have been buying and selling the vulnerability of the rest of us like israel like the united states government's is not just part of an intelligence agency game. It has been ethos of wall street and the silicon valley for decades. Which is the huge point of this article. They are the people that have been doing this abusing it selling out taking what is ours and selling it as their own for decades. And now we're supposed to listen to tech companies advise the future of our world. They sure as hell want you to think so now this is. Npr saying the former director of cia is counter. Terrorism operation argues that counterinsurgency tactics like the one. They used in afghanistan iraq illegal occupations. Those countries are needed to fight the extremists who storm the capital now. They're saying that we need to use tactics. They claim they used on terrorists. When really we know there are people that they were funding and working with but this different story against. You didn't see that coming lot of the people that didn't listen to us. But we've been telling you for a long time. This was the point. It's directed at you know all of this will tie back in with the same thing we were just talking about as they drive this in to be the presence of whatever entity is driving this to happen in our country and then justifying what they inside of it but bring it into covert nineteen the vaccine discussion under the idea of what we just talked about with nanotechnology and everything else. Uk terrorism chief calls for a national debate on criminalizing doubts about covid nineteen vaccines so not even just doubts. Having concerns about something that should be concerning criminalizing. The idea that discussion of that. That is incredible alarming. Incredible but bring it into the vaccine. Let's make sure we understand why. That's so incredible. Five hundred one deaths ten thousand seven hundred and forty eight. Other injuries reported following covid. Nineteen vaccines latest. Cdc data shows as always doing a great job on the defender. Really keeping up on the information. But it's all here under conveyors. I've been keeping up on this as always my point before is that they'll tell you as archy junior. The defender actually made the point that less than one percent by their own. Admission gets reported less than one percent. Do the math in your head on what you're looking at right now so if it but the point is that that's why they set this system up so that they could dismiss it because they're gonna say well it's only reported we can't prove it. Well that's easy isn't it. And if we known her one percent well they just get well. We don't know for sure. Every time we see someone gets sick or get hurt from these things they go. Well we don't know for sure but of course if they die after a test from a pcr tests that has a huge false positive rate. They just guarantee that it's over. Nineteen for your safety of course and then completely contradict that logic by doing the opposite when it comes to these but we know there's more going on here here's an example scott care home. Tragedy has ten residents die. I'm sixty eight positive tests will at i. I found interesting. This article doesn't really get into what happened beforehand. So you're thinking what would have happened. How did they die. Ten residents have died from corona virus amid krona's outbreak. At the care home health chiefs identified a cluster of cases where sixty eight residents have been confirmed positive for the disease. You know using a pcr tests that has potentially ninety five percent false positive rate when using forty to forty five cycles special which most of this country is so take it for what will nhs five reported twenty five residents returned positive tests for the virus with forty three staff also infected now. The ten residents passed away. Or what. become interesting to me. The care home had been closed in new admissions last month after the cases were identified but has since reopened which is why is why are people set ways anybody putting more people into the homes as we're filling the beds of the people that are dying off exponential rate the guy we just talked about the guys they're dropping like flies and nobody wants to acknowledge this. Yeah we'll just keep reopening it letting back in and we just keep hyping up the numbers but says the any justice five health protection team in the five health and social care partnership work closely with the council's environmental health services to support the management of the care home and offer advice to prevent the spread of the virus. The care whole was closed to new admissions and has since been reopened. I think i didn't highlight that. A scott care whole worker has left in shock after her healthy husband died a week after testing positive for covid nineteen which also doesn't seem to make sense or can we're continuing to see all these closely tied vaccine related debts were suddenly they get vaccinated or they tested positive and they die. Two days later died later. None of that makes any sense when they didn't have any any symptoms and suddenly died judas. There doesn't even line up with what they're telling us has happened before but week later. Tested positive died who lived in He was from northern. Ireland had no previous health conditions. Living his family was stunned by the sudden death. The dad of one was just thirty eight years old to be on the mend after suffering from a cough his body was discovered at his home on saturday. The bingo worker had been taking taking lockdown very seriously and following guidance so much that he barely went outside even ordered in his food but yet somehow still happened anyway. Interesting context for you to understand. But here's what i found. When i dug further other stories reporting the full story. Ten people dead same discussion. Twenty five residents forty-three staff members. A total of twenty five residents tested positive. Forty three tested positive. That we're staff quote sadly ten people died after contracting covid nineteen and our thoughts are with loved ones even though we haven't proven that that's in fact what happened boy. We'll happily report like that on january thirteenth. Nhs five confirmed that the first round of cova vaccinations had been carried out in all the regions. It's funny how that's the last part of the story. It's interesting how they even the other story didn't even mention that they have been vaccinated before this happened. Isn't that funny. It's almost like i don't want you thinking about that. Anyone experiencing kobe symptoms regardless of how mild are being urged to immediately self isolate. Arrange a test. And that's the point. So you can have the sniffles. And they're isolate yourself. Go take a test and test. That tells you you're sick when usually you're not and then suddenly you think you have. It added as a confirmed case. That's what they're calling it. A confirmed case. Even though it's by no stretch of the imagination confirmed. But that's what's happening so everybody anywhere. That's even mildly thinking. They might be sick or even afraid they might be because you got contact with somebody. You thought was sick because they were told they're sick. Get the test. They're sick and on and on and on and on. And guess what this whole time being contact traced contract tracing everybody you people they bumped into everyone continues on forever but the point being ten people died after vaccinations were given. That's a true statement doesn't mean you can prove that they die because vaccines but how many times do we need to see a roll out of vaccinations in a place where they weren't really having an issue and then suddenly even more so before you even get to. that point. isn't the vaccine supposed to do something to help. It's almost like every time they get them and then it all happens and all does happen. Yeah people dying. Because they're old that's all we're getting that's all we're getting. Here's another example. Same scenario twenty to die after passing sto care home outbreak same idea. The number of deaths accounted for approximately a third a third of the entire living home. How often how likely do you think it is. That a third of the home will die at the same time frame. Doesn't that sound like there was an event that happened where they were all on the same kind of death. Cycle pace certainly does to me. But i guess that's just too logical we can only do based on what we can prove and of course they'll never really prove anything because they won't really looking for anything as a company. We are supporting the vaccine rollout. Our focus remains on supporting of the wellbeing of the residence. So yes the vaccine rule meaning they had been vaccinated and the rollout of taking place is as she added that quote protection from the vaccines takes time. So that's her saying yes. We know we've actually had them and then they died but it's because it takes time you just gotta let it set in. How many times skies. It's it's insulting and depressing that we're watching. These people get killed two to pretend that something like this where they're dying right afterward or was it. i swear i had another example that i just. I hope i didn't lose that tang. There's there's always have examples these people dying. Oh it's here. I must have put it too far down. That was supposed to be the next one. A healthy nineteen-year-old immediately racing heart shortness of breath after a second cova dose tests confirm myocarditis a heart inflammation. He's now in the icu. Here's what they have to say. Gosh i hate these. It's always it's always the ones you expect it refreshes. Who knows what they change this time. But there's the point was simply reading on jerusalem post saying that it inflammation remember the inflammation aspect that we. Dr pavlovsky talks about the idea that this is a very common thing that's being caused by these vaccines and it's not okay. Get will pretend like. We don't know for sure it happened instantly. He instantly got affected. But who knows. Maybe this refresh donnas again. Look at that quote. The fact symptoms started immediately at the vaccine raises suspicion that the reaction may have caused us. Yeah i so understand what. You're saying right there that that. Oh we'll see that's what they changed data. Incredible kosh drives me crazy. I've literally remember this highlighted the fact that they stated that there was a vaccine reaction. This see this is the kind of mainstream media. We're talking about guys. Do you see it alteration. Do you see an asterisk. Say we change what we said because it was incorrect. No they don't do that because they're not honest guys. They're not honest. none of them are. They're constantly trying to vie for your patrol of your what you think. The point is that there was a reported side effect. And they're just now claiming that well it. This is what it will change to the fact of the symptom or it was up. It was actually up here. That the inflammation was developed as a side. Effect of the vaccination has not been confirmed but it says the fact that the symptoms started immediately raises suspicion and immune logical reaction may have caused the inflammation quite a suspicion instantly right. I mean if you if you ate something instantly had a reaction. Would you then go on to be like. Gee maybe it was what i ate yesterday. I can't over sure this is pathetically stupid and just are playing on the ignorance or rather the willingness of people to not challenge the gospel of vaccines. The young man received treatment at at the center on sunday night before transferring when he received the second dose he had experienced an accelerated heartbeat along with shortness of breath and sharp pains that were radiating down his left arm. All normal according to the mainstream he took blood tests that revealed heart inflammation. That happened instantly after this. But we don't know for sure. God here's the point. He has no underlying medical conditions. None of this makes any sense but as we see as let's see yeah the points here we're saying we have not been confirmed. We don't know for sure. This whole article change by the way since i last read it. So i'm not even gonna try to push in and the point is that they're trying to again float the idea that well we don't know it could be anything but that's just ridiculous. It is really ridiculous. The argument should be most vaccine. But we're going to make sure we check in to cut cross out any other possibilities. That will be honest discussion the same way that they report that in any other way when you have in this case we have the obvious obvious tied to the vaccine that was just taken but what they do is they come out and go. Probably not the vaccine. But we're going to continue to look into it. That's not how that's dishonest to present this because the obvious marker link is that it just happened. That's right to see. This is so frustrating to me. That i have this stuff in here. Oh here we go. No that's right. I was still frustrated. I thought they changed the article. But let's just hope this point in any case so this is the idea we're talking about so people are having these reactions. They're trying to pretend like well who knows. It could be anything. But they're straight up telling you this is going to happen but what they're doing is trying to convince you that it's totally normal. Though the second covid nineteen shot is a rude awakening. Immune cells get side effects are just assigned protections kicking in as it should i hope that cathrine jae-woo and atlantic art are held legally liable for such medical misinformation. The fact that this is happening are screaming red waving flag of a concern that this should not be taken. Your body reacts way when things are not right you don't have streaming pain down your arm and huge rashes and medical would inflammation. This is just the way your immune system works. When's the last time you got sick and you had all these things happen. When you're fighting a virus this is not happening because of your immune system it's happening because of the genetic material as being pumped into your body. With lipid nanoparticles that are completely messing. They're causing pathogenic priming and causing antibody dependent enhancement. And causing all kinds of things the polyethylene glycol which is the name what we're talking about is causing kinds of allergic reactions. We all of this stuff is easily. Show him and all they can do is tell you. Don't worry it's just your immune system kicking in. It makes me sick i want. I want to talk to these people and let them know what a bad person they are or just how dumb they are to believe this stuff but as it says about two. Am on thursday morning. I woke to find my husband shivering beside me for hours. He had been tossing in bed exhausted but unable to sleep nursing chills and a fever and an agonizingly. Slow left arm. Sounds real healthy right. His teeth were chattering. His forehead was freckled with sweat. And i lay next to him clinching blank. After blanket around his arms. I felt an immense sense of relief. That's not a joke. All this misery was a sign that the immune cells in his body had been riled up by the second shot of a covid nineteen vaccine. And we're well on our way to guarding him from the future disease. I just was i by jaw. Dropped truly intent. I mean that is sickening. That they're trying to frame this as don't worry that you know you know this will hurt people. People will choose not to seek medical help because they think that that description of a that's the description of a virus that's a description of a horrifying z. Dealing with right not some passing thing. Because that's terrible. Let alone dying. We're seeing but no people will go. It's okay that i'm on. I'm on my deathbed here. Cheat teeth chattering sweating exhausted. Can't sleep shivers headaches. Sweating swelling hurting pain. And it's all good. Though it's only my immune system side effects are natural part of the vaccination process. They say no. It's actually not now. You can have some side effects right the idea that you can see some kind of reaction but saying just generally that quote side effects are a natural part so death is a side. Effect is a natural part bell's palsy. We've already seen is a side effect. Is that a natural part of the vaccine process. They're manipulating you in gross and wildly dishonest way but the to covert nineteen vaccines. She says cleared for emergency. Use the united states have already they he. She says already have reputations for raising the hackles of the immune system which translates to creating a really horrible situation for you multiple days of bedridden horrendous. Pain as we've that's what they told us days where you can't go to work in both companies clinical trials. At least a third of the volunteers ended up with symptoms. Such as headaches fatigue. Fever like my husband's were less common except that all what we're seeing they. Just keep pretending isn't happening though. We can't prove it so we won't talk about it like it's real dose number. Two is more likely to pack a punch. She says in large part because of the effects of the second shot build interactivity on the first. So because it's way worse the second time that's just a sign that your body's okay with it that's working for you like if the first one makes it is the first one in your body creates a problem. Then the second one comes in your body fights it even harder. Is that a sign that is right and okay or a sign that your body's going. What in the hell are you doing. My husband who's a neurological neurologist. At at yale newhaven hospital is one of any who had a worse experience with his second shot then his first which by the way what pretty much. Everybody's being told they're going to have but much like any other learning process in this one reputation. Repetition is key when hit with the second injection the immune system recognizes the onslaught and starts to take it even more seriously. That does not sound like a normal body this is that sounds like what your body does when this is a bad thing entering your body. The body's encore act uncomfortable though it may be is evidence that the immune system is solidifying its defenses. That's just i. You know what i'm gonna talk to somebody. I need to talk to overall gist about this. And get a straight up. Because i already hear these people talk i just. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist. But i can tell you based on what they have previously told us what i do understand about this. The everything about this feels wrong quote by the second vaccine. It's already amped up ready to go. There shouldn't be the other way around. Fortunately side effects resolved quickly not will again. That's if you're choosing to ignore the litany of side effects that you're pretending are happening whereas cove nineteen can bring on debilitating months long symptoms. That's not what i'm seeing and killed more than two million people. According to numbers that are obviously bloated by combining pneumonia flew by adding a pcr tests with massive false positives by putting d- certificates. That are not actually over nineteen deaths but sure. Let's just continue to cite these obviously bloated numbers because that's good journalism right but months long symptoms. Really like i've already seen the ideas that we have a lot of these asymmetric scenarios and a lot of these people. I mean look bob down anything forever but this. This information is far from certain to ensure safe passage of a into cells that axiom makers swath. The molecules in greasy bubbles called lipid nanoparticle. Yeah that sounds really good for your body. But the point is nanoparticles. The lipid nanoparticles. the polyethylene. glycol is causing four. Sure allergic reactions. Wikipedia says right there at seventy percent of the people in the in the world will have react. I mean it's it's a no brainer. People like james line wiler reached out to them before they made these and said this is dangerous. There's unsafe apoptosis in here. There's all kinds of things in. Nobody cared to listen once. They spot the nanoparticles. These cells dispatch molecular molecular alarms called cytokines that recruit other immune cells to the side of the injection. You or they create a cytokine storm that causes your body to attack itself. But you know who cares about that. The congregation get congregating cells. Spew out more side still flooding the rest of the body with signals that can seed system-wide symptoms such as fever and fatigue. So it sort of sounds like your body's attacking itself and they're going. Yeah it's okay it's your immune system. The itself might also tickle system simply because of how unusual looks. Yeah it might just take a reaction out of this is so wildly unscientific off the beaten path. They i don't. I don't even think they fully know what's happening for is going to happen. I should say the provocative nature of emo might help explain why madonna shot which contains three times as much of the genetic material advisors was linked to more effects in the clinical trials. You know what i hope. I'm i wonder if anybody out there thought of the same thing i did when i read that so before i move forward. The point is don't worry about these horrendous things that are obviously natural. It's all good. It's your immune system. That never happened before. But it's natural because we tell you it is okay but then moving forward. The provocative nature of this makes plain white has three times the genetic material. Excuse me the uk is talking about mixing these vaccines that has happened guys. They put it forward their own. Scientists came out and said that's really crazy they quote said they are trying to guess their way out of a problem. That was their experts from the uk government. And now they're doing it anyway. Launching the world. I tried mixing different. Covert vaccine's my. I was blown away by that. When i discussed the idea that they have different holding temperatures. Right they have different timeframes ruling. You're supposed to take the second dose then. Add on well just casually. The one has three times as much genetic material but go ahead and swim. Mix and match no big deal. That's not a joke guys and we're the ones being crazy. A trial is being launched in the uk to explore whether the difference of covid nineteen vaccine for the first second shot works. They're going to hurt. People is already have so same deal. We need to stop this happening in my opinion. And this is what we're continuing to see less less concern. Pregnant women may now receive the covid vaccine safely. Who says how do they know that. I guess they just made up their mind. You know why. I say that because there's no studies that show that and they'll tell you that we do not know should be the answer but they're telling you go ahead go and do it because well. We don't know that it's not safe. I'm not even kidding. That's actually what we're being. What's being said anybody who is pregnant getting the shot and he's is a bad person or completely swayed by the lies of their government. I mean i don't understand how you would ever even do. I don't understand what you would get vaccinated at all when you're pregnant. It just doesn't make sense because you don't know how it reacts with these things they don't test for this stuff. They'll tell you that they don't even test the combination of these vaccines that go into your child body. They don't test the with each other. How does that make sense the. Who on friday changed. Its advice for pregnant women considering over nineteen vaccine abandoning language opposing communication for most expected mothers unless they were at high risk. The idea was well. This is just that dangerous that that's not the case. Several experts in fact had expressed disappointment on thursday with their position. The experts noted that it was inconsistent with guidance. On the same issue from the us cdc. So now we got the cdc say one thing w. wait so and the other neither one of them have any guidance or any real research on this topic and they said well. This is going to confuse pregnant women looking for cleared by will. You don't say well it'll confuse them like every other thing they've done this whole time flipping back and forth and saying this and then saying that saying whoa this would counting and this won't count by the way here is the very person telling us that lockdowns don't actually work from the. Who and yet. They're still happening with a problem. We don't think about lockdowns. Isn't there very nationalistic. Lockdown our economy that it hits our gunman but it also means we are not buying stuff went trading with weaker economies. We are not just destroying our own jobs with destroying the jobs of all those that in the pura. Possible that expert to his. That seemed to me to be a reasonable point. Really important point by professor gupta. I want to say the game. We in the world health organization. Do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of controlling this virus. The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize regroup rebalance your resources protect your health while considering source did but buying large. We'd rather not do it. Just look about chapter the tourism industry for example main point being. We don't think this should be done the way it's being done now. We have to listen to the. Who you can't challenge the who up until they say what you don't like and then we just disregard. That's just like the dumbest thing i could possibly imagine and people are still going okay. What will we will be censored if we challenge them but they all just challenge them. Go totally make sense. You understand that all these countries are still are literally doing the opposite of what they just set that guys on the council the the board the group that considers these things and makes these agreements and makes these statements. They challenged what everybody's doing. So why do they get the challenge. Who the media the governments. Are they experts. I don it's just. It's so painfully apparent. How dishonest this whole damn thing is now going. Forward as several experts had expressed disappointment on thursday with their position. As i just read saying it's inconsistent. Still the point was seeing how other places they're just thinking sit cares a earlier version of the article state of the. Who had changed its guidance. Organization officials have since pointed out that the guidance has not been altered in the recommendations for these individual vaccines. Oh so they didn't actually change the guidance. They just changed. They said well based on what we know about the vaccine. We don't have any specific reason to believe there will be specific risks that would outweigh the benefits of the vaccine to pregnant women. But we're gonna we're gonna right on our website that you shouldn't it but we're going to say god do it though you're probably not endanger. Isn't that a perfect way to not be held accountable for the advice. You're giving yes but you're somehow allowing pregnant women to take a vaccine that has not been tested on pregnant women that's correct. The vaccines made by pfizer. Biotech madonna while they have not been tested on pregnant. Women have not shown any harmful effects in animal studies. Now i guess we're just going to have to take at face value that they used pregnant animals to test that and somehow then ticket face value that translates to exactly what we're dealing with in pregnant women but then also just recognize that that is not the right way to prove what we're talking about and the technology using the vaccines is generally known to be safe. They say that's not true. This has never been done before. What experts are you talking about. Oval never get to know the point. Is they're saying that or a vaccine. Technology has been known generally known to be safe. Why because of a rush study that wasn't completed and they even got emergency authorization use. That doesn't prove anything they're lying to. You just can't ever be more clear bothers me. I'm sure you can tell it's just it's unbelievable because this is happening because this is happening pregnant. Nurses fourteen weeks pregnant fully vaccinated. I've suffered a miscarriage fourteen and a half weeks. But i guess we can't prove it right can't prove can't prove that it was the vaccine and no one will ever find out her investigate. Let me just make sure you heard that. Sarah beltran ponds md. Fourteen weeks pregnant fully vaccinated. I got the cova back. Seen to protect myself my baby my family my patients and my community when it's available to you. I encourage you to do the same. Here it is. I've always been open about my mother. Who journey in medicine and it's with a heavy heart. I tell my med twitter family that suffered a miscarriage after fourteen and a half weeks. So half i mean half a week later days fourteen weeks and fourteen and a half weeks. She has a miscarriage vaccinated fourteen weeks. Fourteen and a half weeks has a miscarriage. That is what we're talking about. Nobody's discussing that. She won't say that. Why can't we this together. I mean it's a no brainer that it is not tested on pregnant women so when a pregnant woman gets the vaccine and days later loses her baby will but no. It's just not possible. It's fake news no matter what you say. I feel horrible for her because she was tricked and suada manipulated by the very people that are lying to her saying. Go ahead and do it. You're all good because people in this field today are convinced that they should listen. Blindly to the cdc in the who and the hhs an all of them. That's the problem x ray technician sixty years old. We've talked about him already. He was the one in the icu. Well he died x ray technician sixty years old who is excited to get the covert vaccine dies two days after getting second dose bad reaction including breathing difficulties. But officials say is cause of death is inconclusive. Of course we'll never know. Within hours. He was invented admitted to the er with breathing issues. His kidneys began to fail and was officially pronounced dead on january seventh. Like all of these random problems like we're just gonna pretend like it. Just all of a sudden happened kidney problems breathing issues out of nowhere but yeah it just must have been because he was old. Yeah sixty years old. He's probably gonna die soon anyway. All right this is the mentality. However within hours the father of three reportedly suffered apparent adverse reaction telling co workers that he had sharp pains in his stomach and was having difficulties breathing. His symptoms worsened is co workers. Walked over to the emergency room where he was placed a ventilator four hours after arriving gee i wonder what happened with his you're being placed on a ventilator when you're having breathing problems with this situation what does everybody told us so far. What does dr right l. told us it's not this operating in a false paradigms and this is not what we're being treated what we're trying to treat the ventilators and this situation have been shown to vastly kill the patient's doctor speaking out about everywhere and they're still doing it even to their own doctors which means that they don't know how to think outside what they're told to do. It's very sad. Two days later on january seventh he was transferred to understand. So he's ventilated. Two days later transferred to another hospital placed on it in a medically induced coma. His wife for shells uc took the register that took the register within hours. His kidneys started failing to be told the register before he was declared dead. Later that day family said he had high blood pressure was slightly overweight but otherwise had no underlying health conditions. The orange county coroner told said souks cause of death is currently inconclusive and further. Toxicology testing will take months to complete an are. We ever gonna even hear what they have to say. No if there is a correlation to the vaccine the office said it will notify the oc agency right not the news. Not the media not unite. Anybody they'll quietly tell somebody who will then quietly visor and it will get shoved away in the shelf somewhere in a statement to daily mail dot com is. Your spokesperson said. The company is aware of the death in investigating the matter. I mean just think about foreign policy in the way to do this. Saudi arabia were aware of the bus of children. That was murdered. And we're going to look into. It will investigate it thoroughly a week later. We investigate ourselves found herself not guilty. That's what we're this is the same thing. This is the new war. We're in the new phase of whatever. The world's becoming in these are the people. These are the same engineers of so social media social manipulation but in to finish opposites based on ongoing safety reviews performed by pfizer biotech and help with authorities the six gb two which is one we talked about already retains a positive benefit risk profile for the prevention of covid nineteen. Oh so in the face of your failure dying. They go well. It looks like it has a positive reaction based on our studies. So that's what we're gonna say serious adverse reactions including deaths that are unrelated to the vaccine are unfortunately likely to occur. What did they say. Serious adverse events adverse meaning. It'd be because by what we're dealing with including death but are unrelated that axiom. That doesn't make any sense. That is that is it intentionally manipulative statement. So you think adverse events like death or maybe normal or at the very least unrelated the vaccine even though there are serious adverse event. The dishonesty hurts. Me are unfortunately likely to occur at a similar rate as they would in the general population told you so a sixty year old person dies in probably gonna die anyway and and the been shown to give positive benefits based on our own trials that we fund it and we don't tell anybody about what we're good though. Sorry you're person died. But he was his fault because he didn't do it right or whatever they're they're constantly playing this game but they care about your family and your loved ones. Though now here i will include again for you guys to look through for yourselves. I mean i could probably update this right down. we'll find a bunch more. This is a constantly updating information database of all the tapping with these vaccines. This is what we're talking about. But i mean you can. You can scroll down and continue to see him. Forty five year. Old italian doctor in the prime of life in perfect health drops dead after pfizer vaccine drops. Dead thirty nine year old nurse forty two year old surgical technician also dead caster resident dies within hours of recent of of receiving pfizer vaccine protesting vaccine reports side effects. Health worker dies. After receiving the vaccine tamil conservancy worker dies at days after receiving the nineteen year old hospitalized after a second vaccine every single day. Many people are probably guys. This is happening every see. These are all this. Look at the dates on these heavy. I ever a second february. Third february third february third. The people are dying. All i mean this is crazy and nobody's reporting this stuff. Nobody but care about your lives though. And then we're supposed to wonder why the pentagon is telling you that. Unspecified numbers of troops are simply refusing the vaccine. They know that they've been tested on before and they don't wanna do it again. Healthcare pirker's healthcare workers people in health. Care homes minorities all these people that they're telling you they're all refusing this that's why they're pretending and creating scarcity so they don't say nobody wants this dangerous thing they act like it's it's an infrastructure problem and they're probably gonna blame trump for some reason people don't want to take this because they know it's dangerous we all see it and we need to be honest with ourselves. But they don't care what we think at the time points out. People who have not accepted vaccination offers cool get knocks on the door from council staff in an attempt to convince skeptics home by home to in the uk. But this is going to happen guys. We've already talked about this already. Shown you documentation about how people have to respond to this. But here's the point. I want you to remember highwire and general but they talked about this a lot. Reckon if you haven't watched his channel. I if you want he says you know is being required by an employer or school to receive a covid nineteen vaccine. I can't is offering to support legal action on your behalf to challenge the requirement. So anybody out there. That's in this position. Please take the time to read the link dive into this and ask for help. Because they'll help you. Here's the md you saying well. The government must act now to ensure that all national health services healthcare professionals currently making enormous sacrifices. Well i guess that's a bit of an assumption because i doubt everybody's making enormous sacrifices are exempt from covert nineteen related clinical negligence claims. Oh now we see why okay. So we're gonna just broadly say that everybody anywhere that the nurse or a medical professional is l. sacrificing everything for everybody all the time but the real point is we need to make sure that they're exempt from their choices or from liability for their choices by the way that's already basically happening. At least in the united states where the the nursing professionals that the infrastructure truck drivers anybody involved with the vaccine process is completely immune from liability by according to the hhs which is sickening. But in here we are in the uk and what they're what they're asking for that for for the individuals to be exempt from covid nineteen related clinical negligence claims. Why would they be asking that because there is a hell of a lot happening around treatment in regard to covid that is going to be later called out and they know that so instead of taking a stand being honest and going. I don't agree. This is the right thing. They'll just keep using into ventilators and killing people to the point when they changed their direction and then they can say well. I'm not accountable. Because i was just doing what i was told. Don't you love how i would just doing. What i was told somehow works today. Even though we have historical precedent for why. That's not allowed. Who cares. i was doing what i was told. I'm just following. What i'm i'm just an officer law doing. Tell me yeah while you violate our rights and violate the constitutional oath. But sure. just do what you're told. This is gross the emotional turmoil of being subject to lengthy clinical negligence proceedings. Do you understand of crazy. That is something we read this fully. The emotional turmoil of being subject to lengthy criminal clinical negligence proceedings long after the event can be deeply trauma traumatic experience. It is not uncommon for h. Staff subject to claim to suffer from mental health problems. So what you're talking about somebody committing negligence and we're gonna we're gonna go you. You have a mental problem because you're upset about how you accidentally killed somebody or how you accidentally cut someone's leg off in the wrong spot or negligence guys eight at the argument here. Is that when when something bad happens. That's not related to their actions. Will you could argue that and say well. They shouldn't be held accountable if it wasn't their fault but she's not asking for that she simply saying that going through a lengthy clinical negligence proceeding implying that. There's a proceeding that negligence is. The claim that you did something that people are saying. That was your fault and you hurt somebody. But god forbid it should be a long process and god forbid you should have to suffer from some anguish after you did something and hurt somebody that the whole reason. This is so funny to me is because they're just trying to paint these people as any other kind of hero. We've made today right that a that police or any these people. These medical doctors are cited their special class. You can't even insult them. Like the media there are. They're their own class allowed to insult the media. That's what this is. These people are not above you. But that's what they're trying to paint here every nurse as a hero. What about the one. That was just giving my grandma heroin until she died. Is that one hero to what about the one over here. That was stealing the opioids from that person. Is she a hero to yes. That's not everybody but they exist and we all know it so let's not be ignorant and continue to pretend like everybody anywhere in some group is all one thing that's called racist and of course it's funny how we're hypocrites everywhere returned today but to finish off it's all illusion. We should know that. By now the british medical journal is accusing the entire damn thing of corruption suppression of science and politicization. That is what the bird a british medical journal is calling out about covid nineteen in november thirteenth twenty twenty. How in the world can this happen in november of last year and nobody in the media talks about it. Let's finish off with this because this is an important note for you to view when good science is suppressed by the medical political complex. People die the title is possession. Corruption and suppression of science politicians and governments are suppressing science period. Just love how that starts out right that this is can you imagine again. I just love the analogy. Like take that sentence. Go on twitter share. I think politicians developments are. Suppressing science. people would go to town. Oh denier you anti vac sir. Just the british medical journal just stating in a casual fact because we know this all those morons on these platforms out there. That will completely regurgitate with told that is the lowest common denominator. That is the group that they radicalize up different different framing than i'm talking about. Magal them but you know you get them all worked up and they present them as the majority. That's what it is. They want you to look at them like the majority. But they're not they're the they're the ones that are the easiest manipulated that's why they're using them. Politicians and governments are oppressing science scientists being suppressed for political and financial gain covert nineteen has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale and is harmful to public health. It's baffling whereas anybody talking about this. That's huge. I mean that is chopping at the foundation of everything this is unleashed a state corruption. On grand scale that is harmful to public health. They're telling you that their treatment and their reactions around covert nineteen is in fact harming your health but no one wants to talk about that. Politicians in industry are responsible for their opportunistic embezzlement. They use the word embezzlement so to or scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical political complex can be manipulated. Emergency what a conspiracy theorist right sounds like exactly what i've been saying a time when it is even more important to safeguard science but uk's pandemic response provides at least four examples of suppression of science or scientists. Lost my place. Look i the membership. Research and deliver Deliberations of the scientific advisory group for emergencies otherwise known as sage. Who's been a key part of the manipulation here. They're telling you that. This group were initially secret until a press leak forced transparency. The leak revealed inappropriate involvement of government. Dad advisors in sage. You know the kind of thing that we've been warned about the insiders in the people the advocates who have a vested interest in certain things being driving government policy. The government shouldn't be involved with people who are supposed to be informing scientific direction. But that's what we're talking about while exposing underrepresentation from public health clinical care people. The point is does the this government and politics driving the direction which is exactly what the wwco admitted to about lockdowns. Or excuse me about masks pointblank saying or rather not denying the fact that they simply went ahead with the mandate for blob being reasons. That's what they said and yet here. We are being screened down because mouse working. Everybody knows it despite the science but says the incident relates. The incident relates to research published this week by the british medical journal which finds that the government procured an antibody tests that in real world tests falls well. Short of performance claims made by its manufacturers. What are you know now. We're onto the test manipulation and they're telling you that the government procured a test that they knew was not good enough but they did it anyway. I just i just can't stand how we're talking about this stuff every day and we're showing you the facts and were even pointing to. There's still people still. Don't buy it crazy. Researches researchers from public health england and collaborating institutions sensibly pushed to publish their study findings before the government committed to buying a million of these tests but were blocked by the health department and the prime minister's office so people who showed you that these tests weren't suited for the job tried to get their test out and they said look is it doesn't work and the health department said quiet. We don't want you to know it as a work. You shut up over there. We're trying to make money. Why was it important. To procure this product without due scrutiny. They ask question gillet. Nobody will ever know because nobody will ever really ask as if to prove a point. Public health england successfully attempted to block only the thing we just talked about block. The british medical journals press release about the research paper the british medical journal so the public health of england blocked the british medical journals. Press release about a study that showed their test didn't work. I wonder what they're trying to hide. Maybe the entire linchpin of the illusion of what's going on politicians often claim to follow the science but that is misleading. The british medical journal says adds an oversimplification. Science is rarely absolute uh-huh it rarely applies to every setting every population. It doesn't make sense to slavishly. Follow science evidence. A better approach is for politicians. The publicly appointed decision makers to be informed and guided by science when they decide policy for their public. What a novel approach right. You know involvement for the people that they're telling what to do but even the that approach retains public and professional trust only if science is available for scrutiny and free of political interference and if the system is transparent and not compromise by conflicts of interest. Crazy novel idea. Don't you think it's like it's almost. That's what they pretend we're doing but obviously that's not what's happening the. Uk's pandemic response relies too heavily on scientists and other government appointees with worrying competing interests. Well it's almost that we've heard this before including shareholders in companies that manufacture covid nineteen diagnostic treatments and back scenes. Oh what do you know by the way. Every one of these points is sourced right down here so you can read them for yourself fake news. Somebody i'm sure we'll make the claim regardless of where it comes around now says lost my point there's is i'm scrolling down. Let's see where were we vaccine shoot. I told lost my place full science but even their approach retains public professional. Trust only of science available scrutiny right. The uk's pandemic response relies too heavily scientists and other government appointees with worrying competing interests including shareholders. Already read that. Oh here was government appointees are able to ignore or cherry science. Don't you love that. I love that they call them out. This is the british medical journal calling out the media. The government's for cherry picking science. It just priceless of governor appointees are able to ignore or cherry pick science. Another form of misuse and indulge in anticompetitive practices that favor their own products and those of friends and associates. It's a crime. It's just crazy casually discussing this entire criminal organization that is government the first step or rather multiple garments the first step is full disclosure of competing interests from government politicians signs of advisers and appointees. Which will never happen. Such as the heads of tests and trace in view k. Diagnostic tests procurement and vaccine delivery. All of which there point is have complete obvious. Conflicts of interest. The next step is full. Transparency about decision making systems processes. And knowing who is accountable for what. That's not even close to what's happening today by the way all. This is no brainer stuff that anybody would be like. Yeah isn't that what already happens. Anybody that doesn't pay attention anyway. Individuals employed by government should ideally only work in areas unrelated to their competing interests. Of course right. They shouldn't work in the way in the position that they can possibly use to benefit their own profits. You have obviously but that's everywhere. But then they say well we have to because the field is so limited. But that's not true. Expertise is possible without competing interests. And by the way of showing you that the data's actually shows that there's it's obviously not true. They want the people. They know they can manipulate control and work with and that's why they keep them in the place and the just signed. Waivers say yeah. I know our rules that they can't work there but will sign the waiver. It says if such a strict rule becomes impractical minimum good practice is that people with competing interests. So this is what would happen if this is the case there in must not be involved in decisions on products and policies in which they have a financial interest. It's no brainer again. But people like monsef salau. We are at the key positions that then can benefit exactly who they're involved with. It's crazy. science is a good is. This science is a is a public good. It doesn't need to be followed blindly but it does need to be fairly considered importantly suppressing science whether by delaying publication cherry picking favourable research or gagging scientists. Think about that everywhere. Today is a danger to public health. Now they didn't say gagging scientists that are true or that are correct orion or that have certain fields no they had gagging scientists so people that are scientists that have their credentials. Have a right to speak about scientific matters even if you don't like what they're saying but they don't care so what the bmc jay is telling you is that what you're governments are doing by gagging though scientists is threatening your public health. Hopefully you can pick up on that. Politicization of science was enthusiastically. Deployed by some of history's worst autocrats and dictators exactly and it is now regrettably commonplace in democracies or places that pretend to be democracies the medical political complex tens toward suppression of science. That's interesting to aggrandize and enrich those in power. This sounds like a conspiracy document. Doesn't it and ask the powerful become more successful richer and further intoxicated with power the inconvenient truths of science are suppressed when good scientists suppressed. People die of course of course and we know this and just to finish off. Don't forget that so here. We are twenty twenty the british medical journal pointing this out that the problem with lobbyists and special interests in how they're controlling the direction and has nothing to do with what's right and safe and suppression of science and corruption. And all of this. It's almost like nobody's called this out before but you know as i pointed out the. Who among many others called it out all the way back in two thousand eleven and then of course they got rid of all the people that were daring to point out the truth and brought in people. Like tedros and said. Are you willing to do your told. Good now you're in position as it says to finish off. The repeated pandemic health scares caused by avian h five n one and a new h one n one human influenza virus are part of culture of fear worst case thinking replaced by balance replaced balanced risk assessment useless antivirals and irrational vaccine policies. Two thousand eleven the. Who said this in both pandemics of fear meaning not accurate not real fake pandemic because they called themselves the exaggerated claims of a severe pant. A public health threat stemmed primarily from disease advocacy by influenza experts. Which is exactly what the british medical journeys warning. British medical journal is warning about disease. Experts wish to capture public attention and sway resource allocation decisions in favor of their disease of interest. The key to responsible policy making is not bureaucracy but accountability and independence from interest groups. Decisions must be based on adaptive responses. To emerging problems not definitions. But this is where we are. So how was it the. Who point this out. Two thousand eleven the british medical journal report this out in november twenty twenty and nothing stops ours. The are these not literally the groups that were told to listen to the. Who the main scientific publication. What's happening. I thought we were trusting the science right. Apparently not apparently not apparently we're trusting whatever they tell us is the science and that is the point now today. I really want people to do to to revisit. The discussion of the nanotechnology point. I want people to continue to dive into what that means. And how real it is right now and see what you find. Reach out to me. Tell me what you're looking at here. Because i believe there's so much more going on around us that we're not seeing now at the very least hope people can recognize that it's absolutely real world not tomorrow night a week from now. It is literally being built literally being used now so we need to take action now like the guy warned about or will wake up tomorrow in the world that we can't control like as if we can control them thing now but a world that we won't have any input on going forward at the point. And if you're all you're gonna do is listen to all the propaganda outlets like the ones you can see their fox. Cnn the whole damn thing. Well you're gonna be swayed right into the way they want you to go. Don't think for yourselves. I mean it's really that simple. Take the time to think outside the box and ask the questions. Even the one that they're telling you crazy. I mean look. It doesn't mean you have to believe this. I mean that's the classic quote sign of intelligence being able to entertain the thought without accepting it. So when somebody when they tell you. what's your saying. Whatever there's micro chips in the vaccine you should stand back and go. I don't believe that if that's the case then go okay. Let's ask the question. Is it possible. Yes obviously possible. The technologies there people can do whatever they want. Sure it's possible okay. So then what point does it become completely crazy conspiracy theory if it's possible if they've done something like that before now understand. I'm not even trying to push the idea that i think that's happening. I think i made that clear. But it's about being open to asking the very things that they want you to believe are outside the realm of possibility because historically speaking those tend to be the things that happen next to think for yourselves. Thank you all for being here. I love you all as always question. Everything come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant The service we know baden fucking Were don't don't care thirty five. Thought love seen these before me up promptly. Everything i've seen in the last nine days all the things that just don't make sense. The patients i'm seeing on funding. Prove have led me to believe that kobe. Nineteen kids not this disease and that we are operating under a medical paradigm that is untrue will be built psalm multi monday night. 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Jesca Hoop, Brian Jungen, Oriel Sullivan and Jonathan Gershuny

Monocle 24: The Monocle Weekly

56:33 min | 2 years ago

Jesca Hoop, Brian Jungen, Oriel Sullivan and Jonathan Gershuny

"Hello, and welcome to the Monica Wiki or monocle twenty four. We've meet it was to share and August much Larry on today's show. We'll be meeting US musician, Jessica hoop, who's new album stone child, John was the turbulent times were all living in. We also be talking to Canadian artists. Brian Regan about his new show friendship. Enter, and we'll be meeting academics, Oreo Sullivan, and Jonathan Geshe any, who's new book, what we really do day looks to explain. Well, exactly that, that plays Monaco's Malcolm, Chagas chocolate, we'll be looking ahead to some of next week's news, as well right here on the Monaco weekly Monaco, twenty four. Hello, good. Good to have you back after your stint in New York. I was it? Yeah. It was really nice. I had a lovely couple of weeks there in the Big Apple do enjoy the bigger pool of because I'm very curious just being once in very quickly. Yeah. I don't mind taking a or to the Big Apple was, would you leave there? Yeah. Maybe one day not forever, though of not getting back, you know, got bumped from my flight has ever happened to you. Never happen, thankfully, thankfully, when they offered me. But then everything source it in yet. I was lucky. No way. Yeah. Well, you know, they do offer compensation. So if the opportunity comes up, and you came back for the heatwave, which is good ball me. I mean in a way because I mean the monocle team there in Madrid for the conference, apparently, temperatures reach forty degrees there, too hot there. Jinx gonna faint? I perhaps don't have so much words. Yeah. He's very, very English. Complexion has anyway with that said, maybe we should look ahead to what's coming up next week. I'm very curious and we have milk chocolate into Talis. Now welcome here to to the studio. I mean what's happening next week? I'm very curious what isn't happening? Exactly. The quality of life. Come exactly. I've got a real mix news hair. So first of all Russia's Vladimir Putin is going to Italy for state visits. He'll be Thursday and Friday and on the first date he will meet the pope. This is the third time he met by princes, and this potentially herald, a huge thorn relationships between the Catholic church and the Russian Orthodox church, which has been in the very famous schism for about a thousand. And Putin has been over the course of his twenty audience in office been trying to use religion as a way of creating a homogeneous Russian culture. Now, of course, Frantz represents a very different sort of ideology, but nonetheless, the same sort of tool for keeping people in place for creating the sort of homogeneous culture, which he thinks is integral to United Russia, under we have a sense of how they get on if I've met twice before ready. Does that famous photo, pope Francis meeting, Donald Trump is going to face, like thunder getaway waste is gonna pull for Putin? Well, I think they go on quite well, because Putin is more devout than Trump as I understand. And he technically leads more developed country, one can say, so, I guess, by front doesn't really care about his temporal sins as long as spiritually his child of Christ. And, and also pope Francis famously two hundred sixteen met the Russian Patrick Curiel, the first time, the rush Patrick in the pope of ever met. So this is. One of several steps believe, to a close proximity between the teachers where you take your next well to start the down the road on the move on street in eighteen thirty one a series of chess pieces, called the Louis chess pieces were discovered on an island in the UK, and another one is being discovered how amazing well rather had been purchased for five pounds by someone in Edinburgh is imposed on through the family. And now it is in southern as one piece that people didn't even know exist, while the others are in the hands of the British Museum, and the national museum of Scotland, I believe this one will be the I can actually go into private hands and the estimated prices, six hundred thousand to one million pounds, the lost piece, I feel like I read about this wasn't it hidden in some very unlikely. I feel like it was even a bedside table or something like that. Or am I just mixing? My recently discovered, I'm takes into one. Embellishing the store with somebody you like to anyone ever found a piece of treasure in the house. Iphone old magazines that are quite valuable. She chose to. Yeah. Only issue one of Monaco. Yeah. It's worth worth quite a long time. Two hundred paying a million pounds. Goes was nice bell. And the last thing is choose day. Weld, UFO day he believes in aliens, I do you do. I'm pretty sure Fernandez really serious face. The moods really changed in the studio. Absolutely. I mean, of course they exist. What's your view foes? I think there exist before this has reading by the famous Fermi paradox, which is really pilots. It says in, if there's so many planets and stars except trout, then observable universe wise and that, and now the intelligent life form some further digging suggest that there might be a great filter a barrier tools of lies Asians, that we could be in the price of hitting. So also as Asians, come some sort of point, and they go extinct, and I could potentially be ahead of us. So, in fact have been great civilizations in the past of space. Exactly. But never Vence enough to be able to communicate a famous your father gist. Roby williams. No. From tight that really's. He's. He is really into it. He went through a phase where he went bit. Mad and moved on to the desert in Arizona spent months months stains, the sky growing bed while I think we should do that on Tuesday, at least right? Do that. Yeah. Chevy. Very good story. Well now is, is that is that all that's all from me? What a generous helping thank you so much for joining us. You're listening to the Monaco weekly in a moment. We'll be hearing from Jessica hoop. Stay with us. Manchester-based California musician. Jessica hoop has been creating American inflected inquisitive records for over a decade she returned his mouth with new album stone child which tackles teams ranging from discrimination occurring her home nation to tax effects on the young Augustine. Matt with Jessica earlier to talk about the new songs. Shut in boys girlfriend experience and the call. Jessica, thank you so much for joining me to talk about your new album, stone child, and hopefully about much more as well. I will congratulations on the it's really fantastic. Thank you very much. And thanks for having me, and is a great pleasure. I read you say that you have a kind of identity crisis with every new catalog of songs that you produce, and I wondered first and foremost. What stone child you about your own identity? I'll I guess, probably that I'm never here or there. But just always somewhere in the middle. Stone child is a lot about transients. There's a threat of transients that runs through it and out of it in goodbye. They're at went there's a lot of letting go of people places things thoughts attitudes at cetera, but really people. But that's a big one. I, I have to let go of. People quite a lot. That's a very good question. I had never considered what it taught me. You know what it taught? Me taught me, I can write songs. Even if I'm really nervous about getting in say, I don't have any songs at the start if I sit down or if I go for a walk an ice, spend enough time at it song structuring, something, I know how to do a song melody and conveying, thought something that I trust I can do. And it comes with doubt, but the doubt is just that entry point. That's that measuring sticks that you put yourself up against or interested in the idea of trans on the you've had unconventional. Well, what is convention? You've lived a life up to this point continued to live. But it's taken you from the states over to the UK. And I know that this is the first item that you've recruited here, I think normally about to America. That's a record them. And I wondered in terms of. That kind of transients, and in times as well of your sort of connections, a folk music, how that shaped your songwriting how connected you fail to American folk. How connected you feel to English folk which is very different than how you kind of made between the two. Well, they're related and you can hear all focus related. But you can hear some of the old Gaelic Celtic British sensibilities when you listen to say music from the Ozarks you can hear in Americana music. I very much approached this lack. I wanted to strip other influences away and concentrate on folk singing, and there's particular songs that highlight that the song that's called footfall to the path for instance I put myself in this setting where perhaps I'm in a field. There's just a microphone out in the field or on a mountain top. From me. Every. I close, I think there's a certain kind of storytelling that rings, more resonant when you strip away other these other influences. I mean, I've carried around a lot of different genre type influences. But I just wanted to hone in more on folk this time to convey thoughts about Emma's Russa like a lovely wildness to folk music, I think his shed between the English the kind of American traditions. There's a way of stepping aside from yourself within this, this genre of old country or old folk music, where, if you like imagine what they're wearing the singing sounds a bit like that. Like rough fabrics, burlap whatever you know, but dispirited type of singing rather than necessarily refined. And I'm not sure I'm calm, Shing that necessarily. But that is it's an ingredient and what I. Mm producing are interested to hear you took about the kind of the burlap texture, 'cause I was wondering about, you know, be on music, what kind of influences you draw on from the arts from the world to put into songs. And so to hear you talk about something visual and textual, you know, I think that kind of resonance with this question a bit, do you look up Jeep from other media, g combine those as an influence into what you produce, I experience, then that way with music. My senses will cross I will write music from my senses. So they'll be an experience of smell or smell has a color. I don't necessarily see music in terms of color. But I hear it in terms of smell, and the smell has a hate that word smell, by the way. It's one of the worst words on better than ODA sent is about of the motor others is no smell. Worse. Yeah. But it has a scent and the scent has a color, the color has a physical feeling. So these things play part of it. And in the same exact way. Yes cooking. I'm always bringing cooking in to music and landscapes landscapes are asong has landscape. It has a natural landscape and you can see it very clearly, if, if you're listening in that way, the landscape. I mean, I guess that's one of the that's the kind of us aqui thing that I was wondering about the difference between the states and the UK. It's recorded into write music, especially Bristol, where you recruited this hour them, which has a landscape quite unlike anywhere else. I think on a rolling Welsh it's old feels very old reminds me of San Francisco actually strangely has a similar feeling much more. You probably won't know what I mean by this, but English. Compared to the Californian rolling hills but there's a similarity in its roughness. But then also and in the way that it rolls along a new recruiting with John Parrish. That's right. Who is a longtime collaborative PJ Harvey? That's an who was very uncompromising. I've read is is he is. Yes, I was thought you were talking about poly. Yeah. I think he's even self proclaimed. I think he called. I won't use the words he used. But when he knows he doesn't want something on there. He's going to put his foot down and in my position, I think there are a couple moments where that was hard for me. Because I'm like, but this was my work in this was my these were my ideas and, you know, he would call it. That's what they call killing your darlings. They were moments where he would take something I was attached to on the song. I thought that was making the song and he's. Saying the song is strong. It doesn't need that. And I'm more focused on the song without it. And I come to producer to, to hear things through their ears and to trust them and to take their guidance. And so there was a lot of trust resulted in positive marks some of the lyrics on this album, ready striking particularly at the start of old, fair father. More than I love. Try do shoes. She. Some of the lyrics Hera speaking to the politics of why that you may be having engaged with them before on other albums. Yes. That is true, if we're talking about old fear of father, or any of these subjects, they're really really I mean, they're tangles have been tangling themselves for since we route down history. But I like to write about things that kind of weasel their way into my brain and form an obsession and one thing that I find very curious is misogyny as it's perpetuated by female because it is not always, but it, it takes two to Tango. There's definitely a place was in this dysfunction that females participate in and in this song, the mother is competitive with her daughter because she feels insecure at home, and this is something you see a lot, you see it with women a lot when they're comp-. Edited with each other, because they feel insecure. And that's because they don't feel like they can get what they need on their own or whatever I thinking, we're going to be more accepting of each other a little bit of time goes by, and then they want to take away these rights, and these rights want allow discrimination etcetera etcetera. It's more about just watching the pendulum swinging, and what's really curious about that. Is that I'm positive that I'm correct? And how we should be treating each other and how we should share this earth. And then the other side of that is that they are positive that they're correct, and that they are positive out how we should be sharing this earth. They want, you know, over, it's okay to take over. It's okay to take away from others. So it's strange. I can't tell them that they're wrong because according to them, I'm wrong. So I you know what I mean I, I don't know how you reconcile those belief systems were does that mean for your songwriting when you come. To kind of engage with these themes, lyrically. Does it mean that you present them maybe without as much of a kind of polemic judgment? Now. My they're all very, clearly Wade, I definitely put in my vote. Absolutely is just a curious thing, belief. You know what I believe has a way of forming everything how my correct, if they're correct to our wanted to ask about mental ship, you famously what would some whites years ago, and I believe that he became a kind of mental in your sort of in the while with his partner become a mental in the early stages of your career. And I wondered how having had a mental certain in his case very significant in the musical world one, whether that has how how that has kind of, how that set you up, and whether it's something that you'll kind of engaging with as you make musicians, who are maybe earlier in that career. Than you. I would choose the word example, or because I wasn't necessarily sought out to be mentor d-. But by way of being together all of the time. They were example to me, and they also steered me in certain directions. Like telling me I had to get something done faster than six months. You know, to finish my one song. Ennio. Yeah. I find myself reflecting upon that quite a bit actually because I think I'm the same age now as they were when I met them, it was a long time ago. It was two lifetimes ago. And I have people who work with me. Now, sometimes we have interns, I have really young players who work with me, not that they would be looking up to me in the same way. But in the way that I have these years of experience and knowing what it was like to look up to someone else, and praying that I impart, good advice. And also in earnest and there's not much I wanna do in life in earnest. But one thing I do wanna do in earnest is pass on solid. Good advise, and help people chart, their course if I can just fun. You mentioned just there that it was. Lifetimes ago that you met. Yeah. Yeah, I wondered what your albums mean to you in the context of the passing of time. Do they serve as markers? They points at which you stop a new. I mean, I'm sure you're writing constantly. But when you bring together what you've written into a single kind of unit. Is that a moment when you're looking back, you're reflecting on what's happened since the last came out on how you've grown since the last came out, or you look into the future? Is it just a reflection? The present probably the ladder, because I have the very practical requirement of writing this many songs in this amount of time. And so it's like baking bread. You know, you have to put bread on the table. So you bake it, it's like that. And I'm not always writing I write and seasons. So when it's time to be on the stage. I'm not really writing. I can't do them at the same time. It's about cycles and seasons and. It's all very not that there isn't as romance to it. There is a romance in the way that I get to go off in these settings and muse and make music, which is a beautiful thing. So that is all kind of wrapped by a structure of need. Sill. Jessica hope they're speaking to August much Larry and just because new album stone child is out on the fifth of July this week, a now let's listen to another one from it. This is red white and black. Levin's. Two. While we. Take with his phone. His. Chain? The cool. Cut. Doc. Eighteen. 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He carved up a pair of nyc trainers into feather, like pieces to resemble Cheyenne style war. Bonnets monaco's. Well kitchens once the art gallery of on terrier and Toronto to learn more, it's pretty exhibition in their largest exhibition space at the GO. And I've been working with curator kitty, Scott and NGO team for over a year on this project. It's largely survey show of existing artwork. There's a few new pieces, including the namesake for the show friendship center, which is a basketball court that is based on drawings that I provided and the geo realized into a full size basketball court in the main gallery space and the basketball court in the gymnasium they've both been pretty consistent themes throughout your your careers artists wife. Yeah. My initial visits today GIO I had a chance to walk through the gallery spaces that I was going to be in and I remarked to kitty how they appeared like basketball are gymnasiums from schools, like most people would experience from the past two so that they lent themselves really architecturally and to those type. Environments, and that caught me thinking about community centers and friendship. Centres across Canada, friendship centres are largely for indigenous folks, that were created across the country in the fifties, as there is a large kind of movement of first nations folks off reserves, and into urban cities. So I've always kind of liked their presence in their history. And what they been for in Canada. So I wanted to do this, this kind of a tribute to that type of space. Tell me about your beginnings as an artist. Can you identify certain moment or time when sort of that at seed of wanting to become an artist was first planet? Yeah. I mean I was so interested in artists little kid. I was one of those kids that just kind of, like sat around and drew on everything, and I was kind of like, in my own world that I created, and I think my family recognized that and they were very encouraging. I was less. So I really thought. Being an artist was like something that, that you were bound to be, you know, starving or insane. So I kind of like resisted it for a long time, eventually I went to art school right out of high school. So let's jump back to the nineteen ninety s when you were working on prototype, for new understanding, your deconstructing sneakers and you're reassembling them to resemble first nations masks, how did that start in sort of what was your motivation behind the project? Then. I mean, that's the work that kind of put me on the map I first started, I guess, noticing that I was wanting to talk about my the genocide entity and kind of more abstract way let's say, but also I wanted to talk about just general indigenous identity in the country, and how those how a lot of people perceive for stations people and first nations art work at the time around in the late nineties, I was spending. Lot of time in New York City, and I kind of happened upon a exhibit at the Nike town store and they were showing all of their prototype. Sneakers in display cases like museum specimens. And so, I was also like earlier on that day, I was at the museum of natural history and looking at their collection of historic artwork from Canada, indigenous art work, and I saw I kind of make connections between. The, the way these objects are displayed in museums. And also how they're both become these kind of commodities. So I decided to try to work with these materials and merge these two different deceptive ideas, so, yeah, that's kind of where that started. I'd never really made objects before. So it was a real challenge, while your career has obviously shifted over the years. You've made quite consistent threat of working with found objects. Why is that method of making always appeal to you? Oh, I think there's many reasons I've stated in the past that I've seen how mind genus family kind of reuses and adapts materials and objects to other uses. And I think that's largely at economic reality for a lot of people just kind of ingenuity. And also I, I look at stuff in different way than most people, I think I look at how things come apart and how they fail in some ways, including objects and stuff. But I see like in Canadian tire whatever and there's some someone of liberating aspect when something is broken. Unfortunately, most people just throw stuff away, but I see something like a possibility. So there is like a kept seeing broken plastic patio stacking, chairs peat moss soon leg would break their impossible to fix. So people just Chuck them out. So, but I thought they look they became this completely different form, as soon as their use value was kind of removed from them, and you mentioned how you are visiting the museum of natural history. And you're observing, how first nations had really been commodified and how it was being displayed institutions galleries and museums. They've long function. Dads. I guess, prongs of colonization or research to see a change, there are these institutions starting to be really better about how they deal with first nations art, and how they split occurred away with that. Like I made three of them was very it was very exciting to work on that scale. And I also really enjoyed making them on site, I would be invited to have an exhibit typically at a public Alary around that time. So I would just go and I would find those chairs because they're available globally. And I would just make a new one on site. So that was kind of. Way of working at high adapted with that type of material. And you mentioned how you were visiting the museum of natural history. And you're observing, how first nations art had really been commodified, and how was being displayed institutions like galleries and museums, they've long functioned, as I guess, prongs of colonization a restarting to see a change. There are these institutions starting to be really better vote how they deal with first nations art, and how they display it. I think we're definitely seeing change and proceeding more not only traditional and historical indigenous art in fine art museums, where it should be rather than in science, museums. But we're seeing a lot more focus, especially in Canada on indigenous art. It's maybe a different story in the US. Down in the states. They're like, they're they have kind of in quotes Indian art market. That's very, very separate from contemporary, art. We don't really have that here. The closest thing we might have is in you at art history and, and market. But it's unique in Canada that we do have more involvement between the contemporary, art dialogue and indigenous artists in your career set of pretty consistent fascination with sport, you big sports fan. Everyone thinks that I'm the sports not. And I do pay attention. I enjoy watching sports by vastly prefer, live sports. I do watch televised sports. But, like how professional sports kind of function as a rule of this kind of collective ceremony? I societies. And I think that's very, very deep-rooted. And in humanity. And so I like how there's that unifying. And I see how that works on a much smaller scale with when I go to powwows or, or gatherings and digits gatherings. And I see how these different nations like celebrate and have their own language with with sport and dance. So it's much more blurred. I think and indigenous culture, there's like if you go to like northern games or whatever up in northern Canada. You see how things like dance and these unique very exports that they have created are very closely linked. Finally, what do you want visitors to feel at the exhibit? Is there anything that you're hoping for, for people to take away? Well, yeah. Minimum interested in how people interpret, my art work, but I. I was giving a tour to some indigenous youth at the geo the other day. And I, I remember being their age how I didn't know how to behave in an art museum. I was very intimidated by it, and I think I want my exit mission, be more welcoming and I want all sorts of people, but especially youth who really connect with the work. I made air Jordans. I want them to feel comfortable and kind of more free in the space. So, yeah, I don't know. 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Intelligent thought professors Jonathan guests Uni and Oriole Sullivan, that you're specialists in the fields of economics, Yala G and sociology of gender at University College London. And they're also the minds behind the wonderful tied to the -partment the center for time use research at UCLA. They've just published a new book, what we really do all day, and they join us now to tell some of their findings welcome to the monarchy Oreo, and Jonathan tells a bit more about the center for time, use research where did it all began. Well, I think I should let J on that over Janetta. I started collecting this data. I have to say in the later nineteen seventies for various reasons, basically, to try to understand this process, whereby economic activity got spun out of the economy and into the. Household. And you, you'd had these processes, whereby people instead of buying tickets on public transport them motorcars instead of going to the cinema televisions. Instead of going to laundry when washing machines, I was interested in that process, and I started collecting this data, I think I, I met Oriole in Essex university in the nineteen nineties, and we started to work together, the central time use research, actually only started, after I'd moved to Oxford University in the early part of this century, and Oreo joined us about twenty ten and we've been on ESL see economic and social research council designated research center since two thousand fourteen so we're a mix of sociologists, economists demographers and me do research on. Genda family structures. Different kinds of all the things we've been talking about information technology health wellbeing a whole range of different areas that it's possible to address using this particular kind of datum. How was the, the research process? I mean, how did you really find what people do all day? So research is based on a large nationally Representative sample of time, use diaries in which we ask people to complete. So we have the side of Dr as which we complete subjectively ourselves and we write down, lists of emotions and things, but this particular is based on activities. So else people record through the day. What they do every ten minutes, so that we end up with a complete record a twenty four hour an in this case, a two day record forty eight hour record every week and weekend of everything that people do through the day. Plus, who they're doing it with whether doing it. And how much they're enjoying it. We've been collecting this information for several decades. And in fact, before we started collecting that information, we actually lucky enough to find other people being collecting it for us. So the BBC audience research department actually collected dyers of the sort going back, the nineteenth is we were able to reconstruct, those daughters from nine hundred sixty one onwards, which gives us a more than fifty years of history of exactly this sort, maybe the rug would think of it. It's the exact opposite of want journalists often do, which is FOX pot. You find Mr. Jones of Cheam and you ask him what he's done. Well, this is Mr. average, you and it gives you a cross all sixty million of those Mr. Jones that gives you the average for the population in that year the average time they spend. Washing sweeping doing house where doing the jobs and or he'll have a question for me. Let's talk about some of the findings one that is quite surprising. The fact that we sleep more because, you know, I kind of had this idea that perhaps we're sleeping last and last because we, you know, there's technology everywhere there's so many things they were doing, but actually it's the opposite. Was that surprising for you? It is a surprising finding, yes. I think we expect because of a Li media interest in twenty four hour society. And as you say the rise of technological devices that mainly might be spending a lot more time. But we might have been sleeping where actually now on our computers. But in fact, when you look again, and this is the overall average, of course, you see that, that people are that doesn't seem to be very much change over a fifty year period in the amount of time that was spending in bed or spending in bed resting sleeping resting activities in bed. So. So it rather goes against that whole idea that life is speeding up, and we're we'll feeling much more rushed and getting Leslie pen we're doing more things and we don't really find that in the book, it's one of the surprising results from it if I may follow up as well. We've you Jonathan do you think are we having more pleasant days compared to the past, what would you think? Sorry, I know this is not a difficult question. Well, it's actually a question that we're very interested in. And unfortunately we've only gone this information about come people enjoy that time for the most recent survey for the twenty fifteen survey what we can do, though is identified the sorts of things that people do enjoy. We do know that those relative enjoyment of, of each ING out watching television doing the washing up the relativity of that pretty stable over time and what we. You can see is that there's been a small increase in doing some of the more pleasant activities, small increase in leisure time, the much smaller than people expected over historical time. And this morning crease in sleep, I have to say because turns out to be almost the most enjoyed activity, how much insight into into societies. Can you kind of gather from looking at how people spend their days? Well, you can certainly see, for example, in, in my own specialist area, which is in Ingende, you can see very clear differences in paid and unpaid work times for men and women. And you can also observe clear trends in those time, so groups of countries with Pabst, MU Genda traditional ideologies, where men do much less housework. And childcare whereas women do substantially more than in the UK, for example, we. Also of historical trends, such in, in certain countries, you see where women are increasingly entering the paid labor market have been entering paid labor market. I've lost fifty years. You see that they're doing much less unpaid work, which rather begs the question, who is doing the unpaid work, but among other more gender traditional countries that decline is not so evident. Yet, though, there are signs of perhaps, some catching up among men and more gender traditional societies particular, southern Europe, the Mediterranean countries in Spain initially, for example, to see that men are actually starting now to, to pull more weight on their figures are starting to look more similar to those of the liberal Anglo countries of UK and US, and the continental European countries those fines are extremely useful say, when you look, for example at a government, if you guys trying to, to work together with the UK government, you know. About the findings and how this could affect, you know, people in general. Yeah. We're actually collaborating, very actively with the, of the national statistics in the UK where we have got some clues about how the shape of the economy changes in particular. We've got very good evidence about how people use information technology and the web, as a software in general. And this is not very well, observed in, in conventional economic statistics gross national product doesn't really take account of the use that IT information technology and very sorts of software is put to in, in supplying people's once, and in making people feel happy of their impact on welfare. And what we doing is trying to help the s to develop St.. Cystic the better reflect the real sources of changes and wellbeing over historical time, on example of that is the way in which unpaid work has been brought into the calculations and we've shown that when you put on paid work when you actually cost it up, it's actually accounts for something like twenty five or a quarter of entire aggressed mystic product. So that's very valuable addition to a government's data provision to know exactly what the value of unpaid work. And similarly with the enjoyments overall enjoyment. You can total it up in the way that we've described from all individual. Dr is into a kind of aggregate measure of national wellbeing, and clearly that something that then can be put alongside measures economic conventional measures such as grace, national pro grace, domestic product does really interesting as well to think about the kind of shift if we take cooking, for example, which is. Maybe up until the nineties, or two thousands been definitely considered a chill. But which is kind of suddenly had the second wind England has discovered it's pallet so to speak. And there's been this ascendance in interest in food. How'd you stop mapping the transition of something, which would traditionally been considered unpaid labor into a hobby leisure? That's a really difficult question. The very best that we can do is look at the information we have about how people view that front activism, I've gone, and it's going to be much easier. Next time we collect this data, when we collect the enjoyment data again, and then we'll have a proper basis for looking to see how that's changing. I suspect you're absolutely right. That sentence of unpaid work well still work, but they're enjoying actually in ways they might not have been twenty or thirty. This is just speculation. Say the role that secre with some Jay's to set because I think, from a gender perspective, if you look at it from a gender perspective, then cooking is still very centrally something that women do. And it may be that men are starting to do more enjoyable kinds of cooking, perhaps that we can. And that is what we see in the data and that may well, be kind of leisure, Q patient. But the, the bulk of every day, family cooking is still done by women and it is still regarded as a chore. So I think there's a bit of a disjunction between, you know, this idea that we're all becoming much more aware of what we're eating, and we're starting by more expensive cooking equipment, and we're spending a lot of money on expensive. Cookbooks and cookware and watching all sorts of television programmes about cookery, but actually in terms of the time, spent cooking, the isn't a lot more time spent cooking. So that's not being reflected in, in what we actually do in our kitchens, and I should say, what women. Particularly to in their kitchens. And so, yes, there is this disjunction? Okay. But there is this disagreement and the disagreement really turns on how you sum up the experiences of different people in the society, and it is certainly the case that for certain sorts of people Auriol will tell you cooking is still just drudgery. But there are other people in the society food, cooking, actually pleasurable activity. Now how this balanced changes over historical time. That's the thing that we're trying to, to understand. It's not just cooking. I mean, the same thing applies to paid work. My job is really fun. I really enjoy doing it and quantum. Lots of people are in fun jobs now, but also lots of people are in French jobs, still, how does this change what the implications this inequality in the society? That's the sort of problem that we're trying to get round to understand one of the bits I found, particularly gratifying in this was the idea that actually watching telly with your family can be can be valuable shed family time, which I look forward to telling my mother as soon as we finish interview, anecdotally, you know, I remember it used to work with a guy who said the every Saturday, he would watch the Anton deck show with his family, and he likes it because it was the one TV show. He could get his whole family to sit down too much together. Otherwise, everyone was on this funds. This kind of optimizing Asian people physically present and sharing space, but without showing time and attention. And I wondered what your reflections on that a as kind of I mean, because that must be one of the real kind of substantive shifts that we've seen with introduction of personal devices that family time in the evening together has declined somewhat which suggests that an impact we can. We see that this less family television time together in the evenings. And what seems to have happened is everyone every family will know this, the children go off to their bedrooms, doing their own thing on their own devices. So the, the total family time hasn't actually changed very much. But that's sort of engaged family time does seem to have changed. On the other hand, watching television is a social activity, and I think Sunday, my parents strongly disapproved of watching television. But I think that what Shing television with family is actually one of those activities that people do positively enjoy as a social activity. And this is a really long term trend actually that the initial introduction of the new technologies into households from the thirties through to the seventies, didn't she generate a whole lot of new family interaction time when you have stories not justify. Families sitting around the radio listening to, you know, before television came along listening to the popular radio programs on Sundays, but also actually, the motorcar had the same sort of fact, you know, you went on a trip, and you had your children trapped on the back seat and a price that they really couldn't escape. And this, this is something that seems to be maybe a negative trend and it's bit difficult. See what's going to substitute to spin people back in two interaction to counteract to direct personal interaction to counteract this spinning out to indirect IT, mediated interruption. I was reading an article recently about and orlands in no way, the announced its plans to liberate so from the dictatorship of time, because it's just like that for twenty four hours a day, you know why we have coffees on the beach through in the morning, we want, and I wondered what your reflections is people who sort of so into. Timidly engaged with the mechanics of how people use that time on the clock. And on the kind of, you know, the, the way that foams in hotels together, we slaves to the clock. I'm not sure that we're slaves to the clock. I mean, I know that there is this long historical argument about the introduction of clock time and the way that before that we will live to coding to the agricultural seasons. I think you'd need to ask asleep scientist about the effects of having coffee on the beach. Because I suspect the would be something biological to say that actually we do have some sort of by riff make biological basis to functioning, and I think yes to go completely time free. Well I'd be interested to see the results. There's a long history of for Senate on this. The doesn't involve midnight sun involving the exact opposite it. Invokes burying individuals down coal mines for hundreds of days and seeing. And what comes out of this is a twenty six hour day. And there's this point you lots of evidence separate experiments. This people cycle round to something like twenty six hour day in the length of the day is believed the same length as the margin day and been used as the basis for speculation. Human beings, originally came from. I don't I don't buy that by that story, but I entirely agree with Oriole the biorhythms a tied to the day. And we can't really escape them. That was a nice show, isn't it Fe and find out what we do day? I thought it was quite an interesting research that they did there keep a diary of what we do. Yeah. Keep a nice dream diary. I'd be quite scared to find out how many actual minutes, I spend picking my nose or the minutes. We watch like stupid, videos, only internet. I know I know who both fly. Four hours of Instagram. I mean, I don't need to know that it relieves stress indeed. Well, and that's all for edition, five hundred twenty one of the Monica weekly today show is produced by tone hall. Our still manage Nora who the Monica Wiki we're back again next week. But for now it's goodbye from eastern on it was banned from meal much goodbye goodbye.

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Gold Standard: What does the offense look like with Deebo, Aiyuk & Mostert back?

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Gold Standard: What does the offense look like with Deebo, Aiyuk & Mostert back?

"From labra doodles to crow. Nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. Everybody welcome to episode seventeen of the gold standard dart. I'm doing a thing here. What happened did you just have a spasm now. Trying up on my phone up admitted i hit the. This goes my intro doing whole thing. I had a whole list of stuff. Plan is going to tell people to rate reviews. Subscribe to the podcast that they haven't done so already. And i'm not even gonna. I'm skipping your introduction. Because eleven black. We have a special announcement on the pot. I don't even know if you're aware of this a week from today pretty much. Almost the exact hour you and i are going to interview a possible hall of famer. Are you aware of this. How would i be aware of this when you didn't tell me building the drama. Are you aware of the secret. I haven't told you you. And i are going to talk to mr bryan young. Who has agreed to come on the podcast. We're gonna talk about possibly making the hall of fame the forty niners maybe a little notre dame who knows where we're going to go but it is going to happen a week from today mister bryant young on the pot or you know the notre dame part is coming up. I'm from indiana. And i'm not an notre dame fan so you know notre dame's gonna come up you just can't let it go Are you going to piss off young. No i would think he's pretty good natured about it and he would understand being having played in that the opponent. They've played more than anybody else. Why is it that whenever we have somebody on the pot it always goes back to your college affiliation. Maybe because the last two people we will have had on the pot after bryan. Young joins us will be both indiana connections. Apparently the world runs through indiana. Who knew i had no idea. Hey you pick 'em mr producer all right so we got a lot to get to today. We're gonna get levin has a beef with somebody so we're gonna get into their you have a beef with somebody named jackhammer which like you really know speaking of picking up. I guess you know how to pick them. So we're gonna get to your beef. We're gonna get to the news of the day about the forty niners heading to china and is coming off the covid. Nineteen listen what that means for the offense. And just i one real quick question. I wanna ask you at the end of the pod to about a possible dilemma. The forty niners could have down the road the last one or two games of the regular season. But let's start with the news of the day. The forty niners are in arizona day seemingly have some sort of system worked out or going to stay at the hotel. Kyle shanahan made it sound very sort of not business as usual but just like that. They had a plan that they were going to go down and try and execute. Do you think this is going to be a factor just this week or do you think it'll just feel like a regular road game. I think a feel like a regular road game. I mean this year. Nothing really feels like home. Game saw it. There's no fans it. It's a weird year. Almost feels like every game is a neutral site game so i don't think this will feel any different. Do you think it will feel different. When they're in week two and week three down there. No i really don't. It's just gonna feel like to me. I haven't really paid attention to being in levi. Because there's there's no fans there in the niners haven't even one at home this year. If i'm not mistaken so it it does a really that part of it does not really factor into me but that might be awesome. Because i don't live in the san francisco area era area and i think that might have an effect too. You know it's different when you live there. you feel. They lost because they're not around but in terms of you know when they play at home and they win or lose or whatever they go home and see their families and you know get back to their real life well then not gonna have that down there so for one week. I think you can do anything for a week. But when it's week two week three and then you get into possibly running into christmas like that's a whole different ball of wax. The christmas is a whole different ball of wax. A weeks to and i guess if you wanna attack on a third shouldn't affect them they've already done it this year and they almost. Every year i mean they. They spent two weeks away from home in the beginning of the year when they played the to new york games and they stayed in west virginia in between like this of all teams is the team that should be capable of dealing with this because then staying somewhere for two weeks happens almost every year now while that's true and they seemingly have had success when they've done that so hopefully it does carry over the other news of the day is that the covert reserve covid nineteen list as of right now. Eleven is empty. Everybody is off of it. Everybody is into the pool. And of course that includes brandon cou. I'm so excited to see. Because i felt like every time i got geared up to watch him something would happen. You would get hurt. He would go on to cogan list now. he's finally going to be there. And i'm excited. Because as you said he could be the best receiver. The forty niners half. Yeah and it's not just about him. We haven't really gotten to see and deebo together. They've kind of been in and out of the lineup at the same times and when they did play together. It was kind of early in the season when i was really getting going. So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens for the defense that has to face them because they are very much. A depot is going to be a nightmare in the underneath and is going to be a nightmare so the niners will finally have a one two punch really for the first time in the shanahan era. I mean they haven't really had a true one. Two punch i think since shannon came in terms of deep and short route receivers so that part of it will be interesting. Did you see what shanahan said he. He kind of. I don't know if he meant to or not but he said where the kobe outbreak kinda came from. He said that they were bonding. After the saints game and some people had dinner together was that it. Yeah he said. Almost all of the covid issues for them came there. Route was from a thirty minute after the new orleans game. He didn't say the players. I think it's pretty easy to figure out who the players were considering. Who was the first to go on the kobe list. But i i gotta say like how unprofessional. I think it would be the word i would use like. Come on the. You're being paid millions of dollars to not do that. This isn't a year like any other year. Going out to dinner in a different city with a bunch of i mean who who is there the brought it like it was just old player was already positive and he spread it at dinner. He was gonna probably spread it anyways. Share a locker room together. But there's something about going out in public that caused it like to me. That was unprofessional. When i saw that. I'm surprised it's not a bigger news item. It's for people because you know look we all get tired of having to live this sort of new normal and i know that the temptation is there to say. Well it's just a half hour you know. It's just a quick meal it's one time. It doesn't matter that the virus is relentless. The i've said this to friends and family mostly family because we seem to disagree. The virus does not care like for example. My daughter had. I've mentioned it last week. My daughter had to go to the emergency room because she had an allergic reaction. I could not go with my wife and my daughter to the emergency room. Because they're only letting one parent go. And i add some people that i knew that god bent out of shape about that because my wife was obviously upset and could have benefited from going with her. Well as i told them the virus doesn't care it's like oh you have an a crazy circumstance i won't infect you know that's not how it works like it will spread no matter what and so you can't ever relax basically and i think what happened is the forty niners players tried to relax a little bit and they got stung. Yeah and i mean. I don't think we really need to say anything more than what we've said. i mean. i called it unprofessional. And i i think that pretty much sums up. They cost the team some key players in games that they could have been useful. So let's look on the field now because you mentioned it. We haven't seen this combination often. We have only seen deebo most third and for two games this year. One was the miami game which is just a complete disaster. Thank you very much. Brian allen and the other one was the first rams game. And if you don't remember the forty niners put up. Twenty four points depot had touchdown touchdown. They had twenty four first downs in the game. They just dominated on offense. They converted almost fifty percent of their third downs. The head the ball for almost thirty eight minutes like do you think that is representative of what we're going to see going forward. Maybe not to that extent. I mean twenty four point certainly. They should have scored more in that game. Thirty eight minutes of time. Possession is a very rare thing to do. So i wouldn't say we're going to see that level of dominance but they should be back to being a really good offense. Even with kittle out in even with jimmy garoppolo out mean. We'll get into that whole topic a little bit later. But even with nick mullins in their those two weapons at receiving open. The door as does most kind of open. This offense up there the number two scoring offense last year and they've been nowhere near that this year so they should be getting closer to that level of last year. Do you think that's the biggest benefit is that now with. Iu and deibel and most of there. It requires even less of the quarterback than normal. And considering you know the situation the niners are interest affected. The chin has got all these options. Now nick mullins is not gonna be asked to to guide the team vertically down. The field certainly helps him in. Where would have nick. Mullins have been last game and where were the niners. Have been last game without the deebo. Samuel simple screen passes essentially. I mean without those molins. This probably doesn't finish that game. Okay i don't want to think about that. But how much different is the offense. Look when kendrick bourne. And richie james. Both of whom i think played pretty well this season. Now become your third and fourth wide receiver then instead of saying. Oh man we gotta start. Kendrick bourne richie. James now are saying. Oh great kendrick. Bourne and richie james on my three and four like it lengthens the whole sort of depth of the lineup. Right and i mean so now. A defense has to pick their poison. You know you cheat up against the ron to try to limit in the outside run scheme. You're gonna maybe get hit over the top by if cheat to the outside to try to stop the deebo screen games. I can hit you over the middle order. You run mustard over the middle. He's capable of catching passes as well. I think it opens pretty much. Everything up to where the defense has to play the entire field and we haven't really been able to see that because it's always been either. The run game is hampered because most out among others or depots out or are you out. This is going to be the first time that they really have levels of the offense capable at the same time. I remember you said after the packers game that you were impressed by richie james and you wanted to see more of richie. James do you still. Would you still play him over born. Because i feel at burns been pretty good this year especially on third down plays i think playing james and on the same side of the field creates an match up nightmare because of their speed and they're authentic ability so i'd like to see those to kind of run on the outside and maybe have james in the slot and see what happens there when they're when they're on the same side of the field together because there's so much speed and you know shannon's gonna you know doesn't mean they're gonna run route on the same side of the field. One of them will probably end up going over the middle but it stretches those safeties out and leaves them open to other areas. The i also wouldn't mind kendrick bourne. Deebo samuel on the other side of the field that arrangement to like that's a pretty beasley opposite end of the field. I mean those are two physical receivers and it also having those two stacked on the same side means if you end up running the ball and run to that side both of those players are pretty darn good blockers as a receiver go. Yeah you could almost do like an rpo bright and if the blocking sets up especially if kiddos back there if the blocking set up you handed off to most third and then if not you've got james and gone possible slants or hitches or whatever you wanna do on the other side of the field is possible. There's just one issue with that you you're trusting mullins to run in rpo. Mitch i if you want him making the critical decisions you just want him kind of going through the progressions in taking the mental aspect out of it what i hope most for this reconfiguration is that they don't run the ball so much on first down anymore. I feel like they're going to have more options. Now the constant running on. I don i feel like is because kyle is terrified of third and seven like that. He wants to avoid at all costs so he figures. If i could just run it on first down gain like two yards. That'll put in position where we don't have to gain a ton on second down and then we avoid third and long but now. I feel like maybe they won't do that as often. Maybe he'll be more to throw the ball and be a little bit more aggressive on offense it. It is certainly possible. Running on first down those sets up the play action. And i saw just today. Mullins is much much much better when passing out of play action I think he has a rating of one hundred eight. When in play action in down in the seventies when not play action. So you need to set up that play action and make it a real threat. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to run on first but the rudd has to still be a big part of the game plan to make that a real threat. Yeah that was actually a on our own akash on a open. Tweeted mullins with play action. Seventy one percent completion. Ten point one yards per attempt which leads the league. One eight passer rating without play action. He that sixty six percent completion point two yards per attempt and a seventy nine passer rating yet. So it's a big difference in your. You actually see similar numbers with jimmy garoppolo women. This offense is predicated on the play action being a real threat and that's the same exact case for the rams who run the same offense. I mean that's why when todd gurley was todd. Gurley goff was a much better quarterback because the teams had to account for that potential run so the play action goff was able to dominate. It's the same situation for the niners. do you think that shanahan knows what he has an already like. 'cause he seemed to evaluate guys pretty quickly and figures out what they're good at what they're not and how to use them has played a little. But you know he's still in many ways a rookie. Do you think shanahan knows what he has or do you think he sort of has to explore that a little bit. I think shanahan is irrelevant enough to think he has. He had what has turned out to be true at the draft and you saw that in his reaction. I mean i think shanahan is somebody that is overly confident in his own evaluations. So if he thought somebody was going to be a star and he turns out to be star. He thought that from day one if that makes sense so explain dante pettis well. That would be one that he was wrong. But i guarantee at the time in the draft. He was really excited and thought he was going to be a star. Yeah that's true. Somebody pointed out. The giants are three and since acquiring dante pettis. I'm just pointing that out. He's on the covert. I think but yeah. You're going to name that person or no. Definitely not so yeah. I'm i'm excited. I think they're going to be able to move the ball against buffalo kyle and akash on yesterday show pointed out that the bills are very vulnerable against the run which i mean that sets up perfectly for the forty niners everything you just said about the play action. I mean that's exactly what you would hope for. But i've been nervous about this game since it was on the schedule. Because it's josh allen. Who's a mobile quarterback. He can make some plays. And i think sean mcdermott is a good defensive head coach. Who's gonna he's gonna present some problems to kyle shanahan. I would much rather be facing sean. Mcveigh's defense than sean mcdermotts defense. I mean that's that's up for debate. But i will say that the niners. It's a situation than facing a keiler. Murray when facing josh. He doesn't have that crazy track speed. So if you're just not as aggressive in your pass rushes. I think that would serve better. Because josh allen doesn't have that freakish speed where he's going to run by you he's certainly got a good top end speed. He's just not lightning quick. So if you stay home and you don't over pursue trying to get the sack he's not going to have those running lanes and he's not the crazy athletes that's able to make something and get around the edge anyways. Can i throw out a crazy question. And i'm going to give you this opportunity. And i'm sure you're gonna take it but if i'm being an idiot feel free to call me an idiot. You know i will i exactly. I almost wonder if. I want to phrase this as carefully as possible to avoid being called an idiot like the forty niners. Pass rushers right now. They're not the kind of guys that win. Right off the snap of the ball and i think that's more of a benefit against a guy like josh allen like you're talking about because almost by default they're not gonna over pursue because they almost can't whereas if bo says in there like bosa wins so quickly he gets so deep in the pocket that sometimes it creates running lanes for running quarterbacks. Does that make sense at all. Yeah it does and we saw that last year like d. Ford is really bad about that. I mean he such a speed rush guy that if he doesn't get home it's a big problem because he's created a massive running lane because he's going to speed rush around the outside that is his move so it makes sense and yes maybe they are trying to stay home but it looks like it and i it sounds like a knock on those guys like kevin givens and kerry hyder like. They've been awesome like really really good. it's just a little different. They do it differently than than both did last year and then getting up the middle as a little bit different than givens blew up a play last week and right up the middle if you can penetrate up the middle quickly do it as fast as you can because it destroys the pocket. It's really the speed russia's around the outside that it doesn't do anything to the pocket and at the same time creates a massive running lane for a quarterback who can run so. That is really what i wanted to say about the offense what i'm expecting and hoping now that that i will be there with deebo i mentioned earlier. You have a beef with somebody. And i think that's gonna transition us we're gonna take a break but when we come back we're gonna get into levin's beef why. He's fighting with people on twitter and a possible dilemma. Forty niners could have if everything goes the way. We're all hoping it's going to go. At the end of the season. Espy nation presents. 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The problem is is grant is actually really smart and knows what he's doing when he says things like nick. Mullins is as good as jimmy garoppolo like. He did for a better part every year if not more than a year but he's smart and he actually says it correctly or in a way that doesn't isn't easily disproven and that was my issue with the tweet he put in a whole bunch of stats saying what the per game is jimmy garoppolo and nick mullins and put him in there thinking that it made it look like older nearly the same quarterback. Well if you actually look at it and use your brain you realize that the the stats he quoted which he purposely skewed by kind of picking how he chose what games to us but even with using his own numbers. It is a big difference in what it was. was jimmy. Basically throw point two touchdowns more per game than mullins doesn't sound big but he also throws point to less interceptions per game again doesn't sound big on the surface until you actually dig into it and run the numbers in a more advanced way than just simply looking at it and going. Oh look those numbers are pretty close. Point two touchdowns per game is three point two touchdowns over the course of season. So if you really break down. Which i did on twitter a touchdown six points and extra point is being made ninety four percent of the time since they moved it back so touchdown represents six point nine four points at the same time an interception. And there's been some really detailed studies into this is believed to represent essentially four point one points in a game so if you do the point two interceptions that's also three point two interceptions difference over the course of a sixteen game season. So if you do the math of those three point two touchdowns more the jimmy will throw and the three point. Two interceptions less than he'll throw from mullins. It ends up being almost thirty six points over the course of a season or more than two points per game. That is a significant difference. It doesn't look like it when you just look at it and go. Oh it's only point too but when you actually do the math of what it truly represents it is more than two points per game you know if the niners scored two points less per game. Last year they would have dropped from the number two offense to i think the number six offense it. It's a pretty big difference. That's swings games. I mean that's almost ten percent less points if you wanna put it that way. So that's a really long way of saying jimmy. Garoppolo is better than nick. Mullins and my right significantly and the real part. That really may annoyed me was his numbers. Were skewed if there's a really easy way to look at their numbers in a fair way he was using while i didn't count this game and they didn't count that game because you know Because well i kind of this game. He came in at halftime. But i don't count this game. Because he left at halftime blah blah blah and. It skewed the numbers in his favor. But if you just use the numbers they put up when they started just the starts so that it's fair. They started the game you know they. They got equals equal time. Nick mullins throws twenty one touchdowns in a season and nineteen interceptions. When you just use his starts garoppolo. Meanwhile throws twenty four touchdowns to thirteen interceptions. Jimmy is plus eleven touchdown interception ratio Nick is only plus two. That is a massive difference. Nick molin stats are year replaced. You don't even finish the season low stats are. You're good enough to keep starting. There's upgrade out there but we're not sure we can find one. I mean jimmy's numbers are. What got her bisky his bowl year not to compare him to trubisky because trubisky sucks budget is borderline pro bowl numbers. And i don't i hope i really do hope that most forty-nine fans by now realize that jimmy garoppolo is better. The nick mullins. That's not saying a lot by the way. Jimmy garoppolo is a highly paid quarterback. Nick mullins as an undrafted. Free agent. jimmy. Garoppolo should be better by nick mullins and frankly should be better than him by a significant margin so i mean i really hope that there are guys out there. That are saying that but this is the dilemma. I wanted to get to lead if everything goes the way forty niner fans. Hope we're going to get into the playoffs right and in order to do that. That means they're going to have to go either. Ten six or nine and seven. Well in order to do that. They're going to have to win games. So nick mullins is going to have to reel off. String here of victories. And then maybe hopefully jimmy garoppolo gets back for the final two games of the year against arizona and seattle. But if nick mullins has been winning all these games do you really wanna take them out and put jimmy back in there. I mean is that is not an easy decision or is there dilemma there. Yeah it's an easy decision. I mean nick. Moments is not looked. Good it'd be different if he was looking as good as jimmy was last year but he's not his looking like somebody that is overmatched every single game and only because his head coach kyle shanahan. Does he end up looking halfway decent by the end of the game. I mean he is. Somebody that i think is easily rattled. We have seen that in the game that he got pulled. Things didn't go his way. He had an early turnover. And he imploded. He's just not he he's a he's somebody you're happy davidge backup but he is not somebody. This is not a colin kaepernick. Alex smith situation to put it that way. So you don't think if if they you know beat the bills in the beaten the rams and then they beat washington and dallas that. There's going to be a significant chunk of fan base. That saying let him go. he's done well. Let's keep it rolling There might be a chunk of the fan base saying that. But i could care less there there. There's any time you get a large mass of people. There's going to be dumb people in that large mass of people. Anybody hussein. nick. Mullins should remain the starters simply because the team won when nick mullins is looking over matched every single game and nick mullins is not dominating the game so it's not even while the eye test shows that he's not very good even though we stats are he's not doing well like why. Like if nick mullins come down throws for five hundred yards over the next two weeks. I mean like each game total. Maybe you get into a conversation. But he's not going to do that. He's not keep -able of doing that. He is a limited quarterback who is decent as a backup. And that's it. I agree with you by the way. But i know the way that that these things swing and fans get seduced by quarterback wins even when they're not necessarily playing well so i think that is something that's gonna be. I least on the mind of the fans if we get to that point which obviously we're a long way to that The other quarterback thing that sort of popped up that seem to be picking up steam today. Wednesday as we record this is the idea of matt stafford and potentially being available and potentially winding up in san francisco and i don't know if that involves robert sala getting the lion's job and then doing his old team a solid. You know the mac nations would have to work out a certain way. But just in general hypothetically are you a stafford to the niners guy i would say your answer is going to be hell. No hell no is. Maybe just a touch strong. But i'm pretty close to hell no you. We've talked suffered on the show a couple times. I'm not a big stafford guy. Do i think he's better than jimmy yet. I think he's better than jimmy. But not a whole heck of a lot. He's not an elite quarterback if we can get stafford for a second round pick fine. I'm on board. But i have a feeling getting stafford means trading a first and maybe a second i or a first and a second on that. He's not that good. He's one of those guys that if you watch him play. Wow that guy's phenomenal. Because he looks the part but he's never wanna playoff game in eleven years. You wanna say well he. He's been with detroit. He hasn't had a good supporting cast. No he's had phenomenal receivers to throw to almost his entire career. He got calvin johnson to start with and they went from calvin johnson two in his prime golden tate who was really good and then marvin jones and golladay. Currently he's had really good receivers almost entire career. And we've seen plenty of elite quarterbacks in nfl history be able to at least win and get in the playoffs consistently and maybe win a playoff game here and there. Maybe not when a super bowl. But they're able to win consistently just because they have good receivers and they're an elite quarterback themselves. They don't need a big supporting cast. Staffer doesn't he doesn't win consistently and he doesn't put up eye-popping stats even though he has those receivers to throw to. He has to thirty touchdown seasons in eleven years. He's an above average quarterback. He's somebody that's in that. Like i would say six to eight range pretty solidly in there. While jimmy's more like in the eight to twelve range. I would say he certainly better than jimmy. So if the cost. isn't that much go for it. But i have a feeling the cost is going to be big. And i'm not on board when it's going to be a big cost. Everything hinges on the cost for sure. I clearly agree with you. i would. I mean two first round picks is insane first of all. He's thirty two years old. So i mean right there that throws up a red flag for me. I'm not giving up to. I for a thirty two year old guy but i think he's i think he's much better than jimmy garoppolo. I think he's his arm. Town is way better. He can make a whole first of all arms. Just flat out stronger than jimmy garoppolo. I had high tell me that he thought his arm was stronger than john. Elway coming into the league which is usually an all time. Good at that point so it's clearly better than garoppolo. I think he can throw them a bunch of different arm angles and still get it done. I think he's got a lot more armed talent than jimmy g. I understand that you haven't seen the same kind of success that you would hope for. But i mean the detroit. Lions franchise has largely been a dumpster fire for pretty much the entirety of my life. So i don't wanna hold it all against stafford. I think he would look way. Better in san francisco. I think he would know like just follow. Kyle's orders and i'm gonna look awesome so if the if the price was right i would be all for that one i i don't know but man i would certainly give up significant assets to get him. You know stafford. I'm not sure. I think yes physical tools. He's always been up there. There's a reason why he was a number one overall. Pick but i'm not sure he actually. I don't know. Because i i don't know how to put this. But he he's a gunslinger. And i don't know if kyle would like somebody that's going to overly force it. I think he likes somebody. That's extremely confident. And will make the throws without questioning them but stafford will turn it over and he does i think. Calvin johnson permanently altered him as a quarterback. He tries to bomb a deep all the time. Even when it's not necessarily open he's willing to throw the jump ball to his receiver and that's why his career completion percentage is not very good for current nfl standards. I think his career completion percentage is only right around sixty three percent that's below average in today's nfl. Yeah i mean. I agree with you. I think that they had a more vertical passing game. In because of calvin johnson and some of the other guys. They've had their. I think year with kyle and you'd see his completion percentage shoot through the roof by part of the reason that they were always throwing deep detroit because they are always freaking losing and they always had to throw. I mean i don't know. I'm a big circumstance guy affecting quarterbacks and i think him in a new circumstance would really change the kind of matt stafford that we saw i would rather have matt stafford than sam darnold. I'll tell you that if costs are the same certainly like look. I'm not dead set. I'm not somebody that really takes these deadset stances of no way in hell. I'm not dead set against effort. I am certainly probably on the very very low end in terms of how good i truly think stafford is. 'cause the consensus is oh. He's this truly elite quarterback and not just talking about among nine fans among a lot of people. I mean he's widely talked about. Oh my god. He's so good but then you actually look at it. And he's not. He's one of those people there because he has phenomenal armed talent. I think he gets overrated to a certain degree because people see that arm and see the occasional amazing throwing. Go crazy. Good but in terms of consistency. It's not quite there. That's probably fair criticism. I would agree with that. He could be more consistent. I think part of it is like when you have an arm. That's that good. You're not you don't really have to be consistent because it bails you out a lot and obviously when you get to the nfl. That's harder than it's ever been. But i think consistencies affair criticism at that point Yeah i saw some anonymous. Nfl executive said they would win a super bowl. They had matt stafford. And i don't necessarily disagree with that because they almost one one with jimmy and quite frankly probably should have won one with jimmy. I've already said he's better than jimmy. I don't disagree that if stafford came to shanahan that we could see a significant uptick in his stats. Because channahon gonna make his quarterbacks better. It is entirely possible that jimmy looks like an above average quarterback only because he's wishing to him. I mean it's entirely possible garoppolo. If he didn't land with shannahan would no longer be a starter in the nfl. Which is not the same as bad. I'm just saying he might be in reality. Maybe a little bit below average and shanahan prop up to above average. Which means you take somebody who's already a i would. I wouldn't even say he's above average. I would say stafford is good. He's just not quite great and he might take that good and make him great. Which you put a great quarterback in this system or on this team and they're super bowl favorites. Let me ask you this if you had to choose between matt stafford a quarterback next season or robert solid defensive coordinator next season which one you take a staffer really that surprises me. When in doubt in the nfl. Choose the quarterback. Yeah i guess there's too much unknown when it comes to quarterback there's too many who flop so if you're going the draft pick route. Yes zack. wilson looks great. Yeah trey lance looks. Great they flip. Yeah trevor lawrence looks great. Sometimes it doesn't work out as great as they look. It doesn't work out. it is what it is. I mean it's always a crapshoot in the draft and if you're choline for another vet i don't know if there's a better option out there in terms of the veteran due to amount paid and quality of play stafford might be the best veteran option. So when you're telling me that stafford might be the best realistic option for the forty niners. I'm gonna choose that over the defensive coordinator because there's plenty of options to get decent quarterback play or deep defensive coordinator. I should say yeah. I have a theory about the forty niners. Defensive coordinating spot to that. And i'm not going to dive into too much. 'cause ver- sort up against it here time but i think because of kyle shanahan upbringing if you dig into how. He came up as a coach. And how he learned sat and listened and sat in on some of the meetings that monte kiffin and some other people had. I don't think the forty niners will ever have a bad defensive coordinator. Because i think he knows so much about defense. He'll be able to sniff out the good from the bad so even if sala leaves an app to get a different guy in there. I'd still think they're going to be okay. They're never going to have a crap. Defensive coordinator just has the completely carry the load one night. Only that but kyle's as well connected as it comes. A lot of times who. The assistant coaches are all about the head coaching connections. And kyle's obviously born and bred in this game and has connections to just about every single coach in scheme you could imagine. I mean any kind of scheme. He has somebody who's connected to so whatever he wants he's going to be able to find somebody a quality. Do you think he has somewhere deep dark buried in the back of a desk drawer somewhere a list. Why okay if solid goes. Here's the next here's going to after that. Here's how i'm going to after that. He strikes me as the guy that doesn't need to write it down but he's got it he has air right yes. He has it in his head like he. He's he's strikes me as a guy that doesn't need the write it down like he has genius in his mind so you can just see it. Now he writes plays down because other people need to see it. Yeah i i feel. I feel like no matter what happens. He's never going to be overwhelmed. And i cannot say that. That's always been the case with forty niners coaches especially especially in recent history. I would say he's look kind of overwhelmed at times and games when the quarterback makes a really bad throw. I i think i mean you see him on the sideline jumping up and down. He seems overwhelmed with disgust. Like you can tell the moment. He's just like overwhelmed in that moment of me. The hell out of here. Because i i don't feel i dealing with this play anymore. Like it was so bad. Move on if you'd like to see that play and last week's game go to throw that mullins made the incompletion to jordan reed down. The left sideline where he overthrows read. It should have been an interception. It was dropped shanahan jumping up and down on the sidelines. And then he gives mullins like the big to hand wave he's got will harbaugh and then when it comes to the sign reactions. He's definitely very frustrated with the cards that he's been dealt with the quarterback position. I mean he came in first year. He was not going to have good. Quarterback play knew that with bringing in. Brian hoyer Punting that year when it came to quarterbacks then he locks into jimmy garoppolo his second year after he gets hurt and then the third year he finally gets decent play and the fourth year. They get hurt again like he. He's got to be frustrated because three out of four years one he in to injuries he also got another six year deal. So you know things are things are pretty good when kyle shanahan land. Yes i mean he he has been well taken care of Unlike lynch. But i feel like there's definitely a line in the sand that came with that new deal like much firmer. You had to wait on yours because we're making it clear you don't say like we know he didn't have final. Say but i do think. John lynch had a heavy hand in the making of this team and i feel like he's going to have less of a heavy hand going forward he i we say that now but i. I think that the front office is going to lose some people especially if solid gets hired. I think he's going to do a little rating of the staff so the destruction of the forty niners as an entire organization could be vastly different next year. I mean if i'm detroit i'm going. Hey robert solomon peter's how about you come as tandem. Yep they fired their gm on the same day as patricia for so they both openings. If i'm them. I look at the niners model and i say. Hey they have this young. Gm in waiting that everybody considers adam peters one of diguise guys ready to be gm and everybody considers robert silo one of the guys to head coach while why not bring them together and then i may take who knows who they take from the offensive staff to. I mean you know when you win a lot or when you win the way. The forty niners have one teams. Try to copy you in the best way to copy. You is to take the guys that helped create the thing. You're trying to copy so we'll see what happens. Oh go ahead london. I was just going to say you know. There's been a lot of talk of him taking one of the top off of assistance to be his. Oh see i think. That's a mistake. Defensive coaches who become head coaches should go with a proven offensive coordinator. You don't wanna guy learning on the job on the side of the ball that you don't know and we've seen that i mean. Look at vic fangio in denver. It didn't work out with him when he went and picked an unproven offense coordinator from the niners it. It didn't work like you. You don't want that you don't want somebody learning on the job. Doing the often coordinating for the first time. So i will say if i'm silo. I don't read the niners offensive staff that much there. You go leave us alone. Sala good luck if you get another job but leave us alone and we'll see what happens because in many ways this team is going to look different next year. I think so this. The end of the season is gonna be fascinating as we come down the stretch. But as i said on the instant reaction pot and i've said places we have relevant interesting football in december and given everything. That's happened this year. I don't think you can ask for anything more than that. That's gonna do it for this edition of the gold standard podcast and remind you again please. Rate review subscribe. We love ratings and reviews. If you leave us a question in your review. We'll be happy to read it. Answer it especially if you insult levin in the question that will guarantee that you get read on the air the the funhouse just sitting here thinking just don't rate us based upon rahm. We got a lot of other people in this network. I think the last review i read was all complimentary of me and not even a mention of you in the review on. Just yeah. yeah. I'm sure your wife created that account. I can neither confirm nor deny that hundred but anyway joining the game go niners. Good luck this week and hopefully we talk to you next week when we're six and six.

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The 12 farts of Rudy's Christmas, Christmas Cockeral, Chocolate auditing, Holy Boxer briefs

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The 12 farts of Rudy's Christmas, Christmas Cockeral, Chocolate auditing, Holy Boxer briefs

"Aw by butler yet again. And he believed that the the stamina stamina Second over the course of anti weekend. While you know what i didn't have i'm gonna make it through my hair and mera and as a wild hair up to date lagging. There's a cow hat today. Frost got to the head the calendar. It's is absolutely awful. I normally make myself look rather lovely atkins to my fresh fresh nebraska avid nice king para socks on starch death. Caller i mean. That's that's that's really what i do constantly when it when it comes to looking wonderful for you ladies mantlepieces fantastic to have you here. That is episode number. Four two and busy busy program today as we As we glorious sleigh ride into the custom season here and keep coming politics cheese some of the things that we may or may not be told me about. Today is rudy. Giuliani was cold. I mean this gentleman stars truly hated over the years and now he is faulting in front with a young lawyer in court and she lives out. -solutely disgusted we'll be looking at maybe possibly reenacting it. We did have saved the redhead for christmas savage into christmas. Some rascal is giving me some sort of level of shoudan freud. The course of the last week and game to let you know what that is. There's also a seven hundred million drug hole in thailand lavatory tena I don't even know after that. Really hiding drugs in the laboratory. I mean i don't even think dosimeter. Yet trump bleach with with kill the gems unscarred knows on the drugs lavatory. Also coming along the way here how offset sitting for long hours cycle can be so if you're sitting at a desk long amount of time then fidgeting apparently very good for you deep We discussed it and we discussed the christmas cockerel but the The top foodies. This christmas person. Why happiness keeps you bryan young and we never even covered the whole stilton prices because it gives kobe still to make is getting the blues plans crumble over kobe the stilton cheese the some of the rest professed restaurant christmas dinner boxes and i don't think we have does my dog love me or is he an f. adjusted food the greedy dorm of does get stock on intrinsic escape from this hatch Also counting the contents at quality street ten qualities readers. A candy with lots which loved goodies. Chocolate toffees talk soup coffee crimson. There as well for those who on skien on the air on the best selection which is toffee. All those little mosit- wrangles are absolutely delicious. We're also going to be having a game of historical tender a enigmatic english-eccentric will be popping along the way well during the course of the calls the program. Shane macgowan accents with poems at pronounced. Our accent required subtitles phrase crooked gulch. How did she's a snap. What is the least unhealthy option. And also we're going to be examining some of the worst christmas movies in the world. Could they be the best. So it's gonna be a cracker or crap this and we're going to be pulling an absolute delta crackle later on today With with this new feature. It's crackup all crackpot when it comes to a holiday movies at an identity how i think it's almost impossible to watch more than one. Hallmark holiday movie is like having is like having hot chocolate With karen malina and then you put marshmallows on top and and then squatty sugary cream. It's too much it's too much. Sugar is too much saccharin. Movie is too much to bat without down. Just a quick question feud lovelies out there Now i know back in the wartime will very christie and we use the donna salk. So if you go to hold on the song you would you would try to repair. It could won't gain these times with the thrifty times and we're trying to save money now. I'm just wondering is. Is there any anything out there where i can actually Repair hold in my under ruse. My boxer shorts might boxer briefs. Is it possible. Because i'm finding i. I just removed fifteen boxer shorts with all sorts of i mean some of these caverns would like like the grand canyon. The there was so many holes It was like the it was honestly like the black hole and they rule in my boxer shows. I have to throw away fifteen pass old in the crotch area i mean i don't i mean i'm innocent butler. A walk goes on when when when when his holes in the box issues. I mean this. Many i mean that could even wear them. I mean the gossip is split. There's so many holes. I mean you can't i can't even i mean it'd be decent to wear them. It really would be nederland. Weatherman covid mosque. Which i have done on occasion. I do a prefer thong at to a holy pair of boxer shorts When i say holy a not wholly as in holy christmas holiday christmas i'm talking about lots of that is almost like a piece of swiss cheese. Honestly seven hundred million drug hole in thailand was a lavatory cleaner. Clear the gotora mom. The thai government is admitted that eleven point five tons of chemical seized by anti-narcotics place a not drugs worth more than seven hundred million but hamas stain removers somsak fixing. The justice minister admitted that rather than twenty nine billion baht was seven hundred and fifty million pounds with ketamine. narcotics control. board is seed funders be five sacks of try sodium phosphate legal chemical uses food additives and cleaning agent. The mistake occurred off the seizure. The bags from a warehouse in thailand. This discovery is only the beginning. Said mr somsak as an unfortunate name. something leases bullets and the triumphant press conference there will be further investigations to seize. Ill-gotten gains connected to drug smuggling the chemical turned out to be a testing solution purple as does ketamine but thorough investigation revealed. The same effect is calls by try citing phosphate which is actually in laboratory cleaners as a city in regulation foods only sixty six of the forty five sacks of being checked and testing continues in the legal chemical case and Pounded could be being used haydn. Illicit one the authorities to recognize however that they've made an embarrassing era so they basically they basically see tons and tons of toilet duck that does basically what it is all that will the blue thing you put in the toilet that you can flush a million times and nepotism pez and makes the water. Blue is also sitting discretions. That's basically what the thai the thai police found stashed toilet basically Absolutely fantastic I wonder if they had to stash it plunges. Laura or rob a stiff toilet brushes. Well brush flu madame. So how to offset sitting the long hours cycling beer fidgets. I take up. Cycling blood to the legs is reduced. When we sit over time that can lead to stiff. Blood vessels hardening and narrowing of the arteries and the greater risk of heart disease although fit people not immune from these effects. Endurance exercise can help in one trial. Researches it huzzah university in tokyo. Compared a group of mel cyclists massimo and three hundred miles a week in the saddle with a group of men who did know endurance training to general daily activity of the sitting three hours. I just want to i. I mean i think for these cyclists out there. It'd be a more rigorous exercise if they instead of cycling on the path occasionally went up to the grass to let duggal. 'cause free without being ran over i mean they could give them even more exercise ravin. The broth Look to roy. And i have to move in a to ravenous hounds to the side and and let the cyclists pass anyway the drop in blood for a fruit. The Assery which runs the length of the leg was reduced in both groups while sitting but this was more significant in a non cyclist this suggests that germans actively limits the damage caused by sitting projected. Buryats also fidget. Wally said this isn't a problem for me on a big I have lance my pants. So i would have my pants if they have so many holes in the dance escape Breaks in sitting time shown to improve the body's glucose and insulin responses as well as a boost blood flow but even restless movements found to counteract with some of the harmful effects setting and also squatting. So is it except to scotland neil when watching tv executives scott in front of the tv identify as many discovered during lockdown as an easy way to spend the majority of the day sitting in lack of movement and slump in muscle metabolism have shown raisin risk of cardiovascular disease however nailing will squatting involves high levels of muscle activity than chess sitting. I mean i some bad knees as i would want to. Maybe have a cup of cushions other things. You like knee kneepads. You can get so if you only need a lot. Which you know as we wearing coded sounds a little bit like bullying school activity Loss of kneepads there. But so yeah. I mean i don't squatting maybe the i how. How long can you squat full. I mean what's the average squatted. Time i would. I would ask this question. But anyway the keys to fidget in a get the toes tingling and tinkling does get the hands move and get everything moving disfigured around a little bit. When you get back into the office you'll get some bravo strange. Looks i think slow ladies. Gentlemen let's introduce the christmas cawkell. This year has taught the foodi. Smoldering attack is perfect for now and the demand is already high every year I go through the same discussion about many because ms day. Somebody wants to turkey in wants. Goose disappoint you about the history of greece laser by the way this year. Though i hit on the perfect compromise a cocoa they give him chicken. It provides some of the drama and deeper flavors of generic cousin but without the threat of meeting with leftovers into march a typical three kilogram bird will say six and has tradition on the side and to the arrival of the token the sixteenth century. Caulker was a common side effects. The table i use was. I may not be loading alabama ocean packaging free range staff jail in. Uk said that demand already outstripped. Boston has even with a month ago. Tomko paseo turkeys in caucus on the family farm in bochum reports orders. The christmas cockrel are up eighty percent so it must be fun. You know the the christmas kach is is tasty in its pros early. Maybe didn't have to get it in the oven so early. You can have some resting time. That's robin icing christmas morning. You don't have to get the call of his quickly. As turkey was earliest tacky. I mean. Do you have the base the bird do you have to do to rebel sorts of oil in goodness in get that you know a nice oil oil up. The cockle is much as a turkey. These big questions when all told me about tough oh buds that has spent several years servicing hands in the family back yard. He's a male chickens and they're being killed at the customer maturity anything from fifteen to twenty six weeks The reward for the famous patients of the mesa by which is still beautifully moist with extra fat. So there we go extra fat oily. Bud very moist. Everyone's a winner. We're accustomed to be supremely land nemec chickens in our country The cocoon is a delicious fleshes firm. So you could offense smash talk. Wishes got real character. Described as gamy would describe game is sets but it's full of deeper flavors fuller and deeper for the christmas cockerel especially in the legs. An at the restaurants typically says abreast in the leg breast in the leg said he'd get the kaku talks breast and a nebraskan. Even be poached on the rare case. They might use water buffalo competing duck fat and the leg royston slowly home the heroes the hall would just salt and pepper and a few sprigs of time. That's when you know it's good quality so there you go. Let's let's try the christmas cockerel this and it's got natural moisture and you don't have to worry about basing it to an inch of his life. anybody's anybody tried to chris cox role this year old often. Let me know. Love also postcard you know i want to know is is is a tough old bird aura. Or is it more flavors and then okay so christmas continues on key common cauliflower cheese with still toolmakers get the blues. As christmas plans crumbled the covid for sensors at been stateless british christmas but the love of blue stilton. Cheese may need something else to come that with a glossy pull this year. Renowned is a village cheeses on account of blue veins and a long association with critic. Hunting bodies in the shires. Stoughton is facing a blue family after production stoppages caused by karenna virus lockdowns and then unpredictable into mom. I think a lot of shots may well find themselves in a position where rationing is going to be a strategy said. Jason hines a sales director. Neil young dare in london. While mass-produce supermarkets of stilton have proved less susceptible to the fluctuating demand gomez he would never consider doing that. Festive shop in us goes might be in for a shop croppies. The high end blue. Jesus have ended a miserable. You have trying to second-guess lockdown restrictions weeks in advance. When the first lockdown began in march many cheesemakers who are left large amounts stock summit defer cheese away. Oh my god furniture to bring it over the head. Loaded up on a horse and cart and bring me the blue vein stilton love it. The distinctive bang's generated by the penicillin. Forty mauled need at least eight weeks to develop cheeses destined for christmas consumption. This yet needed to produce by mid october concern over a second way of the virus with its height. Sorry i want to make a mountain out of cheese. Then have another locked down. Just we had jay snyder who uses traditional techniques to the distinctive blue cheese from unpasteurised milk at star shelton. A dairy not an share that would kneecap all sales. So since coming. Out of the lockdown the dairies trying to make up a shortfall diseases. Much possible it requires said he was sending this annual sales in the seven weeks leading up to christmas is still applies do route. British consumers may find alternatives lacking gorgonzola produce the netflix and had some problems briefly. Run a rockford. Cheese suggested that penicillin for himal might help combat covid nineteen so. I didn't know this people like spreading cheese alot. Like all these lucia things as a as a gif chosen in no time either hospital spread me spread blue cheese. Eleven me and i'll be fine. Maybe put me under the grill and white me out when i'm denise in any event Charlotte advise customers to get it in a game is still early. A really fine pieces still on the table chested also noted in a sonnet stilton cheese stilton thou should tradit- living at this hour. Inland has need of the. And so have i so. Somebody got me back in the week. A couple of weeks ago. I was talking about dog walking and the whole Of having to carry a dog poop bag for like two miles because there's no rubbish bins no trash cans anymore. They've been taken away so thinking about the stealthy move with this flicking wrist flicking the bag into escape construction skit. Nobody looking to subtly over the shoulder dropping a golf ball out of the rough dropping that into that skipping walking away quickly looking ahead looking back so my trash is picked up the other day and i noticed that Somebody fictive doke shit bag in deny trash into my rubbish rubbish. Be taken away. Somebody won't along with a dog so am i. rubbish bin out and flicks the excrement. The doggy poo poo into my so. I fate bitten in the bottom again after me. Joking about that sean. Freud has truly struck back in the champions so the big question is does my dog love me or she just in it for the food do dogs me or they in it for the kibble dogs have a range of complex emotions and conditions like us says philip to do she at the university of denver. We want to be careful not to recall. The dogs have to have human emotions for us to recognize them. So yes dogs. Cam lov as in certain sense of the word but we human still have to be half that we don't expect our pets to actual think like people the way god's function and think is very different to how humans do but in some ways to dishing explains their brains do work similarly to ask dog shan much the same neurological structures and use the same positive brain as people do when feeding love and affection. He cites a recent study. Done to see how dog sprang respond to the voices of the people in their lives. They found that when parts of the dog's brain light up when they hear that person all the same posture activated brains. When we have voices of people we love some experts argue. How however that we can't necessarily tribute near logic response to love. Unfortunately the field currently just doesn't have sophisticated enough methodologies to provide a definitive answer to the question however the answers we do have certainly indicate that dogs are capable of formed strong bonds with that with their own Studied the showing that when humans kudu adults oxytocin the love hormone is released into their bodies which means when we pet them. They're getting an amazing body. Snuggle high that when we snuggled in his also they're getting the same high research suggests that when we pedaled dogs kind of oxytocin feedback loop is created similar to the one created between child. So i mean we all the dogs parents basically. I've got two daughters. But then i've three hands as well george. The cali maggie to colby and jackson terrier ten. Jack loves mailing. is that sort of relationship. More likely seven. The garden of eden sometimes with nasty nipping a nasty bite in a sting in the town as well. I think but is is recognized. I mean dogs man's best friend and they all say absolutely wonderful companions. Okay so we have another little session of trump all trombone when we're looking at some of the probably the worst headline crimes of the week and essang if the trump or indeed a trombone so this week we We as always. We seem to have constant constant news about the about the loch ness monster. But this is more nessie news. Pint-size nessie living in wells could survive off. Eating sheep says research the sightings of the so-called tegel in tech rid Wakes back and dates back to nineteen seventy five over a seminar nessie looking creature on a much smaller scale. Tag is being spotted multiple times embolic wiles. The loch ness monster draws in thousands of torres. But it might not be the only based hiding in britain's deep water bay suburban with andy mcgraw has looked into seven chilling eyewitness accounts of and i'm fabian. Twelve foot long in wells lodges deepest lake. Bala lake in snowdonia National park the slashings techy of lynn ticket with a date back to nineteen seventy five or a seminary looking creature described greyish brown or black and cala and typically eight to twelve. Long mysterious item is believed to have one or two humps long neck. Roundish full-size head with crocodiles. Now sounds absolutely doesn't it. I think nessie could be swimming around a doing butterfly stroke with elvis elvis's law seat cited in law as well and lord lucan on a back with the best friend being a duck billed platypus. The next on trump trombone we have man council contents equality street ten and these people absolutely fuming a tweet showing the ratio of each raunchy chocolates inside the ten of quality street English candy is gone. Viral twitter racking up thirty thousand likes people left. Fiercely divided by the results. december's in touching distance. And that means that our diets go down the pan eighty percent chocolate without zero percent guilt. Advocaat is begin. A colon Caterpillar puts on santa's hat in preparation the big day and tens of chocolate provide round the clock snacking without the disappointment of among sunk. It inside for those who opt for ten of quality street might be left a bit frustrated after one. Chocolate fan counted the number of each variety. Inside lighting. The findings stephen hull a head of digital ally. Tv news found that. The tim contained title eighty-five chocolates. But just full. With the daphne most delicious. They're only four so there are only four of the green triangle which i mentioned earlier which is the best. The north set triangle. The karaoke up on the orange cream and toffee penny on the other hand Starting eleven so there's a camel the orange cream the toffee Pennies good eleven eleven only floor or the green triangles and caramel Aren't cream toffee penny. Were eleven so. I mean the great. The green triangle is is best but just full puzzles. Which is the the caramel chocolate covered caramel with a with a hazelnut inside and yet another a number eleven to the orange one so never type of orange chocolate there are eleven of those and he any titled at hashtag inquiry street without a doubt. Avas wanted to check the working for themselves. So take davis added disowned calculations to the report. Fan the purple ones in the green triangle. The game to be the lowest quantity and the chocolate strawberry to be the most beneficial the orange in the chocolate. Strobe resign bomani. They need to get rid of those. The chocolate audit left. Some raging is one replied. That's all kinds of wrong orange. Cream should be in the bloody mix let alone staging a bloody takeover is mike. Okay nyoni surprised by that. Blatty dolls off Anyway so a. I need a job being chocolate auditor for a stock. Probably the best jump in the world and one of them. I think people should be able to start an online sweet swapping candy triton you would swap you least favorite with another persons who might might be the favorite said the coffee cray will the orange swallow whatever it is could be. Somebody's five. It could be at least favorite so you start swapping them. They must be people. Just adore coffee creamed but hate the hate. The green triangles. That had the has to be out. So i i think we do it. Do it a chocolate or candy. Sweet swap shop and We we swap least favorites and find people. She actually dole those ones and installing swazis. So there we go. Thank you very much baby trump for that little interjection there. Yeah so right now anyway so next on drums trombone. We we. We look at the christmas tree. Wilton stock across mystery wilting. So let's Let's have figure around. How do you keep those needle from november to the end of december. Experts in has green goblin. Santa christmas shopping. Kolkata into reveal what you should be doing to keep. You'll tree looking as fresh as it did. When i bought it so in an attempt to spread the festive joys brits have been decking holes with many ornaments is deemed appropriate before delivering results resemble sounds grotto. There's nothing worse than the look of wilton christmas tree especially when we expect it and putting up a sooner atta keeping tree. Fresh and moist seems to be running to the boss keeping bring fresh moist but this is the tree not the Not the cockerel The whole holiday season can be a little bit tricky but not anymore ladies and gentlemen that with a hack that revived it can reach the pots that of cannot be reached. Something along those lines is the seven up. The seven up is apparently Apparently revitalizing will liza wilting. Decrepit flaccid trees other than checking your trees water level every day to make sure it's two inches of water at the base of the tree. Hanley's garden sentence. Christmas joel says that you should be watching with a with seven up. The fizzy lemon lime drink is a key to the hydrated to hydrating the tree three pots water in one pot. Seven expanding the method behind the madness godless at the sugar in the seventh will help feed the tree and keep it fresh and living longer. So the guy who said that. Keep coming cauliflower. Cheese isn't a useful. Podcast and gives you some top tips. I wonder though if the sugar would stock if the tree would start getting a sugar high would decrease dot spinning baubles bouncing and would they have the coal santer into performing evergreen exorcism and finally a coin removed for man's nose after being stuck in from oldham fifty s. A man finally his coin removed or coin removed from his off stuck for more than half a century The fifty nine year old on russia man was a just six when you wasted money into its right nostril too scared to tell it struck maverick bounded and later for got the man how you forget a coining up united is obeyed my case you could probably fit. You know maybe roller coins. The the mana pay apparently manage to live for the next fifty years unimpeded by the blockage until recently started pay at his right nostril. You went to the hospital in was given a scan which showed the unexpected albeit tennis. Nasal passage ronald stones in the nasal cavity formed around the coin. Constricting the ability to brave medicare data out at endoscopic surgery and a genuine sediq removing stones and retrieving the soviet. One cut that coin from his nose off to fifty three years. I wonder if it had to stalin on it. You know could have one of the great dictator. I mean you gotta let one those installing bomb something along those lines But i mean could you soak the coin. Incoming we talked about seven up but could the coining spunk lit up back to mint condition. I mean i do believe that. If i had a fortune i could use my usa as the snout safe. You know. keep keep money out there. And keep as bank of england Keep most of the bank of england at my nostrils on the docks naughty web. The currency would be bogey. All boga bitcoin day we have another enigmatic extension. So william archibald spooner is forever locked into history. The linguistic phenomena spinners is named often spooner ism involves accidental sometimes intentional swapping letters words vows and the sentence for example. Go and shake tower. Meaning go and take a shower. Spooner was a professor at oxford and he became so famous for spinner 'isms that people would attend his election. Just ahead make a mistake. He was not pleased about the publicity that surrounded him as he. The death is attitude softened gave interviews to the press. Scooting got his words wrong. You'll sound wrote to fuller professor to ask him to come to help them solve a problem at the end of the letter. He added the postscript that the matter had been resolved. I need come. Some spooner assumes attributed to spooner all maldini padam pioneers. Can i say to shoot colony. Modern the occupied can. I you seat lettuce. Plays are acids to the quarrel dane raise losses could do queen will have the hacks flung out flex out. There's enigmatically these executive audible. Spooner ho hulme. So some of the eagles at didn't make it into trump trombone. This week Uk's autism as own to wander wellman. Christmas tree bang display for his hundredth yet. A treat bolt by woolworths in nineteen twenty one tone to survive his bombs and eight house moves to become a treasured. Founded joke became a contender for the most owned or underwhelming festive In the land k. 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The company owner ramona via decided to moss pigs in september to reflect how the checks doubted for christmas this year. We used to have bows and flowers to them this year. But we've added vice mossy. We hope the next year we can decorate them. A little bit more cheerfully. According to the cost in the pigs bring good luck and happiness. The moss pig ornaments have proved so popular. Jakova said that Making little l. c.'s day. They've been a massive hit now. We're not doing anything else. But instead of making piglets out of gold in Inundate face moss. I wanted golden poke at the christmas to hang on my tree I wish i could By a few of them and And and and add socially distant troughs and socially distance di. I also wanted if you rub the golden pig on your i could get rid of. The stuff is on the. I and the modified mom finds malfunctioning. Frozen elsa make an x. Rated noises among showed a clip. The old noise coming from adult elsa frozen dole on tiktok and was horrified. 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Spoiler Discussion: WandaVision Episode 4 We Interrupt This Program

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Spoiler Discussion: WandaVision Episode 4 We Interrupt This Program

"Hello everyone welcome. Sasha daily for friday january twenty ninth twenty twenty one. Today's episode we're in have a spoiler failed discussion but one division episode. Four interrupt this program the slash on editor in chief. Peter surata entering out his podcasts slash. Home weekend editor omen. Hey that's me in special guest from the mcu fan show. We have sean gerber l. Everyone thank you. Peter and brad for having me on the mandalorian podcast. We have bryan young. Who i like to say is like the one of the smartest people i know In the star wars universe like he knows more about star wars than anybody else that i know and i feel like the counterpart to him in the marvel. Universe is you. I'm having to have you on here. Because i originally tried to get you on for the first couple of episodes. You're too busy for us but you know what. This is. A good episode. Have you on for. I think yeah. I'm really excited that it worked for this week. Because i figured as we get closer. We're not quite there yet. We're episode four of nine but as we're getting closer to the mid point of the season this is certainly when we expect the larger turning points. So i'm really excited to be part of this one and it was definitely a good one to talk about so very happy to be here with all these episodes we have the four segments will go into feedback from last week's episode Reaction and then we'll all fall that up with scene by scene breakdown and into our speculation so start things off with Things we have kind of learned Since we last recorded last week. someone On twitter pointed out tasks that the doctor who's actually named dr nielson. That's not something. We brought up on the podcasts. I know sean. I think he brought that up on your are also doing like one division breakdowns on yes So nielsen is the you know the the ratings they they track how many people are watching episodes on television or they were out. I feel like now a streaming. It's it's very hard to track that stuff but yeah so I think that name is not coincidental and someone pointed on twitter. That the doctor was headed to bermuda which is known have triangle that people have been trapped into an disappeared in brad. Any thoughts on that is is is that a is that there for a reason. Yeah i'm sure it's a fun little reference to what's happening i mean as we've as we've learned You know in these verse three episodes especially with things that happen in the fourth episode. I don't think there's much of anything in here. That is a coincidence that this is all every even the smallest details meticulously planned and like at least subtly referencing something china. I feel like i'm this podcast. We have been like we've been like full loss mode. Were like analyzing things in the background and stuff guy. And like sometimes i feel like in the first couple episodes. I felt like we might be over analyzing things and reading into things. Like we're looking at you know What's her name. Agnes yes yeah her name and how it spelt out. And maybe that's like another. You marvel character which will get into later. I'm sure You know we're making all these connections like hexagons like should we be looking into this and i feel like finally this road like feels like a vindication of sorts at at one point i I was worrying that we were becoming like the conspiracy theory people that were looking too far into things like did you feel that at all. When you were recapping these upsets on your podcast. Absolutely i mean. I was certainly worried that in doing these recaps thinking. I'm just being way too. Granular about this. And thinking that every single thing that's in the frame or spoken or looked at and just everything is a clue for something and obviously it's not gonna turn out that everything will have meant something significant over the course of the show but until this week it was really hard to narrow our focus. So you have to take all of it as we're just desperately trying to figure out what exactly is going on here and i mean we'll get into it when we talk about the episode in detail but even with something. They've given us to try to narrow our focus. I still don't know if that's enough for me to cancel out all these other theories that we've been thinking about for the past few weeks. I think kids out. Maybe a couple of i dunno. Well actually you had a lot more theories on your podcast One thing wanted mentioned is last week. We mentioned that they produce some Replicas of the rings that wanted envision had at the end of epa too and this week. They announced a replica. Of the stryker Watch that was in the episode. Three two two two yeah. So they're they're they seem to be way ahead of like the gravy train. Like i if you feel like mandalorian they. They didn't know what was coming in. This time they do. Well also feels kind of like season two of mandalorian though because they had it all prepped like they had their manno mondays series. So and obviously they had. I think greater partnership ahead of time with all of their licensees on this stuff for mando and the now for wanda vision. Because they've done that. They've taken mando mondays and now they have marble must haves for mondays. And it's going to be like this from now on with disney plus from juan division through falcon winter soldier. And i'm sure when the star wars series comeback it's going to be that to wow okay We got a lot of in the past week but to be honest with you. A lot of them have theories that either pan out or don't pan out in this episode. So they're probably not worth reading. So i apologize to all the people who wrote in but if you run a write in after seeing this upset with stuff we missed or theories or you know things you know. Just anything you have for us. Peter out slash on com as the email to do that to James from colorado springs wrote in. You wanted alert us That one division kind of echoes a very famous nineteen sixty one episode of the twilight zone. It's twilight zone episodes seventy-three it's a good life. I'm not sure if you guys have seen this. But i'm gonna read fr- from what james wrote here This brilliant piece of slow burn. Horror has a plot that potentially mirrors what is happening one division a boy with apparently godlike powers has pulled his hometown peaks ville ohio into an isolated reality trapping its inhabitants. In a universe at the mercy of his whims while trying to make a nice world for himself and others he commonly maims kills others in causes disasters through his interventions in his pocket. Reality because of this town folks prisoners and play things in anthony scenarios respond to every situation with feigned happiness describing every situation as good to void his anger or the risk that he'll cause even worse situation if he tries to fix his mistakes In one division this could explain the reactions of some of the other inhabitants of one divisions westview trapped in. This isolated town by grief-stricken wanda's reality warping powers. I think this is dead on right. Do you think sounds like the show. I'm watching. yeah it's definitely very similar also toward mentioning that. It's a good. Life was also remade for twilight zone the movie. Oh yeah yeah. I gotta go visit that that movie. I haven't seen that many years The last thing i wanted to mention is it seems like designing. It seems to me at least at disney has been kind of unconscionable in the response to these first few episodes. They're having like with mandalorian. I feel like we got nothing right like they. They're not showing us previews not giving us interviews with people but every week like there were offered like a new interview with the cast members and like this week like we got clips like that kind of like were a reveal of look. This isn't just going to be the sitcom if you guys are worried about this being a sitcom in your marvel fan this is gonna get more marvel. Keep keep on to this. Like i love the show. I'm not saying anything bad about the show. I feel like All three of us are in the bag here for for that. We're we're people that are supposed to love by also understand that there's probably people that teenagers twenty s. You know even early thirties. that haven't watched old sitcoms. You know didn't watch like i did and are probably like what is going on here like. Do you guys feel the same way that i do that. Like it seems like disney was kind of worried that they might be losing marvel fans with the first few episodes the clip in the sizzle. Reel that they put out thursday morning. It played a little desperate to me. It did i. And i'm usually on board with. I think disney's very smart about marketing. That they do. And kevin feige is always gushing about how wonderful of a job disney does marketing all of marvel studios stuff. But it did play like. They're a little worried. That people aren't on board with the sitcom idea in. Maybe you're worried that that's all that it is. But i also felt like it was redundant because the end of episode three shows you very clearly. I mean the end of episode one pulls back in shows who you know i. I don't know. I splurged from the episode but It pulls back and it does show that somebody else is watching something here that there's a world outside of this episode three makes that very very clear so i i don't know why felt the need to show as much as they did and and maybe i'm just assuming too much. Maybe this was the plan all along that they've already these they have their spots and what they're going to market and show when it's all been laid out well in advance and they're not reacting to the reaction online which is still mostly positive from what i've seen With respect to wanda vision But as of viewer who was already locked in ready to watch the show at midnight. Pacific time thursday night I could've done without that spot especially a couple of the visuals in it. Like the big board with idea of the different people in the town Could've done without that. But yeah i was a little confused. The why they were showing so much and not being not playing things closer to the vest. Yeah i've i've seen like complaints from people and it's usually just the more casual viewers. Who are like. They're probably not paying like tons attention to the marketing And like they're just waiting to see what happens and they want to avoid everything at all costs and i think that they're watching the show and there were like. Wow this is all it is like this is supposed to be a marvel. Show like people are saying that they were bored. And i think a lot of this also comes from people who aren't super familiar with like classic television and they'll understand what they're trying to do by opening the show like this and realized that those the the things in these few episodes make what's happening now that much more impactful and irie And suspenseful and mysterious you know and so the complaints are unwarranted. I the marketing definitely feels reactionary. But at the same time marvel does doing so maybe they assume that this was how they were going to play out the entire time. But hopefully hopefully people stop griping about it because now they're getting marvel side of what they really want so. Yeah i wonder if there's going to be like this kind of like Last djeddai kind of reaction to this where there's people that kind of like the sitcom aspect of the show and now that is going forum marvel. If they're gonna be like highlighted the way it was now the you know the people that we didn't like the common now like that it's you know full on mc you are like i. I wonder if there's going to be a by deals there. But as i hope not like this is what we've been told this coming the entire time. I know we have been told that this was a mash up. Classic sitcom and mcu epic and even paul bethany bless. His heart has been trying to tell us like the pacing of how this is gonna go. We're going to start in sitcom land and we're going to transition out of that but there's still plenty of sitcom left in this show. We know that we still have to go to the eighties. The nineties in the two thousands. There's plenty of sitcom clips from trailers and tv spots that we haven't seen yet so there's plenty more where the first three episodes came from. Okay we'll get into that later. Let's get into a brief thoughts. I'll give my quick brief thoughts. And i'll go to and brad But i you know this does feel more like a marvel movie albeit maybe Zanier supporting character storyline of marvel movie which some people may not like. It does feel very much. More marble anna. That's not meant. I guess that is a backhanded. Comp complement of sorts. but i. it's funny how the characters in the show are asking all the questions. We've been asking for the last few weeks and i love i love movies and tv shows that show event for multiple point of us in this. This does that and i. i didn't. I honestly didn't expect them to break the formula completely this early on so that was kind of surprising to me This is definitely the most cinematic episode of felt like marvel movie it. I know i complained a lot about the short length of the episodes of the first season of the mandalorian and the first few episodes of this season worked for me. I guess this is my one complaint worked for me because they were half hour sitcoms this episode because it was more cinematic and it was more. Marvel did feel little short to me being thirty minutes. But at don't know at the same time i i feel like those of us who have been analyzing episode. Probably didn't end up. Learning much from this upset was kind of vindication. Episode like vindicated. All stuff that we were thinking i show. What did you think about this upset. It's no surprise anybody. I love the episode. It is the mcu in all the best ways. It's no backhanded compliment from me. I love the way the this episode looked. i love the way that it felt And that's not like. I needed this reprieve from sitcom land. Because i love that too. I think they did a really great job. And this is actually usually the thing i hate. Tv shows is when they break formula. And you get the episode. That had seems to have nothing to do with the rest of the show or the main characters that you've been following that usually doesn't work for me In this case it did because they found ways to make it interesting and tie this into the bigger picture of the mcu and some really fascinating ways So i loved it and then as far as the length of the episode when it ended. I definitely had that reaction of on no way like you gotta be kidding me that this one is already over. But i don't know if that's because the episode really should have been longer or i just wanted it to be because i was enjoying it so much brad. What are your thoughts. yeah. I absolutely love this episode. Is i even appreciate you know that They went back to essentially before. You know the version of one division that they would end up watching began so that we could see exactly where this all started and get acquainted with The timeline and let's thing and i was also impressed by how good it looks even Being a tv show we saw. We've seen you know agents. Shield looked like network. Tv show that was trying to be set in the marley universe. But they didn't have the money to really bring it full tilt in here. The show looks expensive and it like it doesn't feel like they cut any corners by by any means yet it feels right in line with marvel's work You know arguments can be made for you know that. There's a little bit of like veering into marvel style. It feels like it adheres to a formula that lacks a certain. I don't know a tourist style. You know Just because marvel has as a very specific look for most of their movies even when they bring in directors with specific styles. But this i think the show itself is so stylish overall that you know that that's not really a problem for me if anything. It creates a proper delineation between the sitcom for reality that is happening on the show. That is wanda vision. And you know the real marvel cinematic universe okay. Let's get into the breakdown. Let's dive into it because we lots of talk about this week The title of this episode. Is we interrupt this program which is perfect. Yeah it's perfect actually makes me wonder if the next episode going to be a back to the regularly scheduled broadcast or something yeah The opening takes place at the end of the so. How awesome was this whole sequence. That opened like the the cold open of the show. I guess what you call it. What did you guys think. It was unbelievable. I loved it so much the way that they did. I mean the just speaking to the cinematic quality of visual effects. The way monica everybody else just re in that scene No disrespect agents of shield. I watched every episode. But yeah the visuals. They clearly spent more money on this than any effect. Shots like ever in agents of shield at least more of a showed up on screen. I don't know but it looked great. But it's also what it sold and it also kind of makes sense because this is the immediate reaction to people coming back from. The blip is it's the chaos of it it's the terror of the confusion of it the tragedy of it like this story for monica rambo that she dozed off while her mother was recovering from surgery. Thinking her mother was okay. Only a wake up and it's been five years in her Her mom has been gone for three of those years I think it sells when we talk about just the permanent effects of game in this permanent scar. That thanos left. 'cause for anybody who says well the events were able to undo it. They can't undo everything so much of this last forever and has tragic ramifications for so many people including monica rambo and so the way they brought all that together. It was staged incredibly well and just a terrific performance by tiana paris brad. Any thousands called opening. No this was really cool to see. Because i i think that after spider-man from a lot of us had questions as to even more so how this would affect you know just different parts of the world on you know from a small scale to a global scale as far as what you know. Half of the world's population coming back looks like in the kind of chaos it creates ended. It actually made me like interested. Like i would watch an entire mini series of them doing episodes of this a happening in various locations in the kind of yannick. Is you know like i feel like they They could do a like would feel like you know a typical network drama about this phenomenon and how it affects just normal people's lives not even superheroes Because it was just crazy to watch unfold. Everybody coming back and i'm sure there's even like hilarious things that would happen from this. I mean you have to imagine that maybe at some point. The blip there were probably two people being intimate with each other and they just disappeared and then all of a sudden they reappear in some stranger's bed because they moved into their house right. And i think it feels like the you know because far from home does play it for laughs like they. Show the marching band disappearing. They come back and one of them gets hit in the head with a ball and everything like and aunt may somebody thought the husband's mistress or whatever 'cause she reappeared like in her old apartment or whatever that was and what it also makes sense though because they clarify later in the episode. I mean obviously we see right here. This is the immediate aftermath. Wanda vision is actually taking place before spiderman. Far from home spiderman far from home is taken. They say it's eight months since the blip or people came back so that also makes sense why they're doing it for laughs when tragedy plus time equals comedy like people are probably more comfortable joking about eight months after the fact as opposed to immediately when it's happening when everybody's just focused on the chaos of everything it's still. It's still raises the question to me what happens to people who were like on planes or boats send. The explanation of that is That it's you know they call him smart halt for a reason so like in the the infinity styles in the mainstone is intuitive. Enough that it's know bring people back safely so don't bring a back in mid air. Kevin feige said that. Actually yeah. Yeah i was thinking that like what when she reappeared in that chair. Oh good thing. That chair was like an exact same part of that room because yeah it would have been bad if like she appeared in. The chair was on before No but i i. I really wish that there was a way for marvel. Maybe disney plus or something to explore this idea of the more because i think it is very compelling. There's a part of this episode later. On where monica walking into sword and you see on the screens like the celebrations around the world of all these people returning and so i don't know it just makes that bit of world building to meet doesn't feel like Like distant mountain kind of stuff. I know a drew mclean has coined that term just amend It's more of like stuff that i would like take spore so Know okay. Let's start at the beginning of the scene. It does start this black screen. And i'm not sure if you guys noticed. I had to put the subtitles on to like get this exactly. But there's a lot of voice quips From captain marvel. So there's like maria. Saying no i can't i can't leave monica and then monica's like mom. It's ok can stay grandma so there's a bunch of clips there calf nero says When they're hanging out kids they gave you the toughest one then lieutenant trouble so i guess that's probably all just there too key general audiences not us not the people that have been picking this apart. The beginning of this that this character is the little girl from captain marvel. I feel like that's more for us. I don't think the general audience remembers that carol. Danvers called monica rambo lieutenant trouble two years ago when they saw captain marvel. I mean unless they've been watching and maybe they have been rewatching after marvel and disney. Plus but i feel like that's the kind of thing where you know. I don't know if that immediately signals to the general viewer that this is monica rambo but it becomes fairly clear Soon after that. Yeah and i. I do think one thing that is very clear. Is the way that she reappears. Like just the special effects on the particles. I feel like everybody general audiences get that like they don't need to be told about the blip or that it was about the snap like they're like oh i know where i did. I mean like it's like instantly which is kinda cool yet. Those particles have that very unique. Look because you just remember the. I remember the audience. Reactions to the opening of endgame when hawkeye's daughter disappears When he turns around. And you just see those little particles floating away like everybody knows what that means and so to see that same visual consistency of those particles as now they're re materializing it was it worked really. Well okay sean. Urine marvel experts today at. We've known this characterised geraldine but she is really monica rambo What back story should we know about this character from the movies and comics as far as what you should know. I think what they want you to pay attention to from the movie perspective is that you know that conversation. Is you know monica sense of adventure in wanting to see that in her own mother in maria rambo but then also what she says at the end when she's like having the back and forth with nick fury like she can go to space like you know And she has been to space as we find out in this episode. So she's definitely been living out this dream in these goals that she was setting for herself back in one thousand nine hundred five. So there's that from the mcu perspective if we're looking at it from the marvel comics background. It gets very complicated. Because she's had like seventeen superhero identities is more like five or six but she's had quite a few including captain marvel. She was captain. Marvel comic books before carol long before carol. Danvers was ever captain marvel. But she's gone by other superhero identities. It looks like photon has the inside. Track to be her superhero identity from the comics into the mcu. Because that was her mom's call sign. And you see that again. Maria photon rambo in the picture of maria rambo in the lobby of sword. So it looks like that's the way they're going as opposed to pulsar or spectrum abbott. They have still giving her a captain rank She's a captain with sword. So really. That's the main i think. Think from the comic books that's worth paying attention to. She does have a superhero background. She's not an agent of shield or agent of sword. That's not really her role in marvel comics. She's a bona fide superhero. And i think that's the direction we're going here. Yeah and so far as we know her mother didn't have superpowers as far as we know and she don't even have superpowers at this moment. in time. depends on what moment we're talking about. Okay we'll get there later I knew you'd be on that train. John okay You know the chaos of this hospital like lobby or whatever. It is hallway. I was kind of thinking. Because she bumps into a person it would have been kind of cool if they could have like snuck in an easter egg for a future film or show of another character that came back from the blip. Did i mean like you would've been cool if like that person was actually someone. We realize that in another scene by think. it's probably too much production. Hassled that and i think it distracts you from the emotion that the scene is trying to achieve like it wants you to feel monaco's loss and you might miss that if you're thinking. Oh hey it's that guy what could be a character. We don't know yet true. I'm saying very true. What yeah Okay so i guess who interrupt that characters reappearance in his story okay. Anyways i'd dr harley is her mom's doctor. She informs her that her mom died of cancer ago. Two years after she got snapped away So this gives us a time line so this isn't twenty twenty three but it's further night in in that year then spiderman was spiderman and twenty twenty three. No spider man far from home presumably would have to be summer of twenty twenty four because it opens it their little in memoriam. Oh it we throw the news broadcast with betty. Brant says that it's been eight months since the blip so we've gone through an entire school year in far from home. This is immediately after. And then even where. Wanda vision picks up when we see monica sword. It's been three weeks since everybody returned so this is still like august. September twenty twenty three well ahead of spiderman far from home. It's interesting that we're going to spend a couple of years catching up where the timeline is. And point out though as timelines go even with marvel studios being involved sony spiderman movies or suspect as far as where they actually are placed. Because we'll all remember the eight years later title card from spiderman homecoming area so and here. We are eight months later. So the number eight doesn't work out well for timelines with these spiderman movies. So i don't know if we can fully trusted but for now wanna vision is happening months before far from home and they also will note that. It's kind of genius. That i mean they didn't know what what's going to happen in our world but it's kind of a genius set of circumstances that able to avoid ever addressing people in masks riled wide. They never have to address. I m mcu. I guess This leads us into mcu. Opening which jacob brought up during our first. How good it was here. That here in see that opening for the first time in a long time. But i feel like it's become the high weight of my week whenever that comes on like yes. It's time again It just keeps me so jazz. It's such a great fanfare. Okay so we now got a sword headquarters. The campus looks pretty big You're experts on who is sword in the comics. What do we need to know about them. So the name is actually different Sword in the comic books is essentially world observation response department In the mcu they are sentient weapon. Observation response division. There's no end and we swap world for weapon and department for division. I don't care about the deep part of it Why did we do that. I don't know. I mean it sounds like well. They're creating sentient weapons. That is what acting director hayward tells us Which was not part of swords purpose. When monica was there when she disappeared so why they changed the name. I'm not sure but it doesn't really matter to me. Ultimately it's still stands for the same still results in the acronym sword sword in the comic books is effectively space shield and it is very interesting that we say we have an acting director hayward who i don't even know if he's going to survive this series but that character doesn't really have any strong ties that i'm aware of comic books and i marvel wicked and i couldn't find anything that i missed so I don't know about that character in particular who knows for all. I know director. Hayward's scroll and that'll come up in secret invasion and really no idea. But this sean why is he acting director. What is it two or three years. After the death of of maria like shouldn't he now be director. I think i was also a little bit puzzled by that. But maybe it's because nobody likes him and wants to give him the job. It does now like the program has kind of been winding down like even he talks about it so it sounds like things just weren't moving at their normal pace during this five year period. So maybe that's what it is. The marvel comic fan in me says he's the acting director because the real director of sort is supposed to be a character named abigail brand. Who would pop up with you. Know her green hair and all I feel like that's a character. Who may be pops up at some point. I don't know maybe if they don't go. The superhero route with monica can be the director but even when monica hayward had that conversation about him being chosen to be acting director of monica knocking to play part in that. The conversation wasn't that it should be monica's just that she should have been involved in naming her mother's Replacement but anyway for my overly as usual long winded answer to this sort of space. Shield is what they are. Obviously they have terrestrial involve them in the because there is no earth-based shield in the mcu anymore. Yeah okay. let's talk about This guy tyler hayward as he said he is not a character from the comics. He's played by this actor named josh burg. Who when i looked him up. It said the first thing that said he was born in washington. Dc and. i honestly feel like you can feel that you can feel washington. Dc in his veins like he feels like he has appeared in many tv shows as an fbi agent or cop and You know why it feels like that. Because he has yuppies appeared in seventy. Tv shows over the last decade. Usually in one or two episodes as an fbi agent or cop At that point. I'd be like oh maybe sean is right. Maybe this is like a guy that's going to be in air furlough one or two episodes. He's not a major character. That said he has had major roles. He had a like a long lasting role in the show. Drop dead diva. He was in like fifty something episodes in he was. He hit a supporting character role in the show. Parenthood for one season so it could go either way But as you mentioned he's not a character from the comics but there. There is a character in agents of field with the last name hayward named brian hayward right and he's a super soldier created by the centipede project There's been a lot of like coincidental. Connections that agency. Shield the tv show. Which i know we've said to death is not connected with mcu. Kevin feige wasn't involved it all out by all accounts it is connected to the mcu but just not in like the way that the new marvel shows are like kevin feige was not meticulously planning. What happened on agents of shield and making it fit in fluidly with the marvel. Cinematic universe movies. They did what they could to make. It happen kind of ten. Generally to the events of the board only lasted for the first two seasons which actually lines up right to marvel studios split from the rest of marvel for any references in any of the marvel movies or tv. Show like the movies or tv shows that. Have referenced any lynnfield. The only thing that even comes close is in the speech. That vision gives and captain america's civil war when he talks about since tony stark became ironman in the eight years. Like the amount of you know. Threats has increased exponentially in superpower beings it's increased exponentially and there was a huge in human outbreak in agents of shield. But that's never really shown up in the mcu proper. And so i think agents of shield. The where where i place it now is. It's not in like the mcu prime time line but now that we're talking multi verse with the mcu with a lot of things that are going on if stuff. It's been announced for marvel studios that we know is going on at other studios. It definitely feels like there. Is this multi verse thing. Happening in agents of shield is part of a timeline. That's connected to the mcu but it's not the main one Just don't see that and even that flick shows them. assume i. although. I don't know the netflix shows may get a pass because who knows If kevin foggy brings charlie cox in his daredevil at some point maybe he will acknowledge that being part of the same timeline but even the netflix shows never interacted with agents of shield. Netflix shows were fairly isolated so they actually could be brought in and it would be easier to actually bring those shows in than agents of shield. Because there's a lot less that happened You know that you would have to try and account for as far as white and all this other stuff pop up in the mcu man. You have many many many many many in humans in agents of shield who are just never a part of the action in the mcu. So i don't really think agents of shield is true. It started out that way for the first few seasons but it diverged on its own path for sure it had. Its own branch to timeline. If we go into endgame logic and all of that stuff But as far as the the senate p. project and is that that's very early agents of shield which is when the ties were closer to the mcu proper but the timeline doesn't really work out because the sentient weapon creation. Part of it has been happening in the last five years Those first couple of seasons of agents of shield are well before infinity war in game. So i don't really know that that connection is lining up. It feels more coincidental than anything else. What about the blue hydra soap from the last step said. I don't buy it because there's no connection for wanda. These commercials are very clearly about just connected to wanda. Hydra is but not the soap and the soap. That everybody's talking abou doesn't even take place in a real thing in agents of shield. That happens inside. This thing called the framework. Which is this artificial intelligence reality that was created in. Yes it is an alternate reality thing wanna has no connection to that and she has no way of knowing that so p- in a reality that didn't exist in colson. Had to go had to start making his own. So i don't really think that lines up. That feels more coincidental to me than anything else. The main point of the of the commercial is hydra. And if we're tracking we actually are going in chronological order. If we're talking about wanda's history of trauma it started. I mean. I don't think it actually started their but the first story we ever got was a stark missile. And we get a star toaster that takes too long to go off in the very first commercial in the first episode. And then we go to striker who is hydra. But it's a much more specific thing. As far as him. Being the one who likely captured wanda and her brother was running the experiments on them with loki sceptre which housed of course the mind stone and then we go and then we expand out in a broader sense that it wasn't just struck her. It was this larger thing of hydra being a source of trauma for wanda. So i think that's what that really is what it is for me. I don't really think they're trying to you. Know all of the sudden. Throw a bone to agents of shield. Maybe they are. They're they're trying to be kind to show. After the fact that none of this reads that way definitively for me yet. Yeah i think you're right Okay so we see a plaque on the wall with monica's mother's face on it With the full time and We see you know we. We find out what has happened to. The astronaut training program has basically been. I guess abandoned because half people disappeared in other are afraid to go up there We see some familiar things in the background. Like we see quin jet being worked on It's cool to see the stuff on like a tv show hayward yeah he would reveal that they have pivoted to unmanned drone missions robotics nanotechnology in a i. He says sentient weapons like it says on the door. Monica says observation response not creation Hayward says the world is different now. It's faces filled with unexpected threats. So the thing. I wanted to post. You guys opposes brad. I because marvel cinematic universe has a long history of evil government officials who show up Do some some bad things. Remember like robert redford's character pierce alexander's. Yeah yeah so you know when. I see a guy like this. I'm like out. Maybe he's up to no get. Brad what do you think do we trust this guy. You know it's it's tough to say it's one of those things where you would think shield was infiltrated by hydro and was revealed to be this huge evil government organization that we wouldn't be so quick to trust another one but as we've also seen in the history of many governments countries including our own People aren't smart enough to avoid those situations and so you know a Perhaps there's a the hope here that maybe because things have expanded so much more as far as our knowledge of what's out there beyond earth in the universe that this is some you know a legitimate organization trying to help balance that you would hope that. Nick fury maybe has some hand nets You know i think the conversation about you know maybe even scroll involvement is interesting and you know could brings some nefarious activity could also just be something that actually helps us in the long run to have knowledge of what else is out there. So there's nothing that i see so far. That makes me distrust him. But you know comic. Books have also shown that a not beyond being fooled by these kinds of organizations. Yeah what do you think. Sean i mean. No disrespect to josh steinberg. I'm sure he's a quality individual but he just looks like a guy you can't trust in this show so of course that dude's up to no good. I think you know you see him throughout the show. He's dismissive of darcy. He's dismissive of jimmy. Woo and he's totally wrong when he's dismissive of jimmy. Woo 'cause we lose agent franklin also known as the beekeeper like we've we it's seems like this guy is in over his head and even there's that there's that look that monica gives him when they have this talk about. How awkward it is that. He's the acting director. We both kind of no. You're not qualified. But hey you were still there. After the blip so why not. He could just be an unqualified stupid. Personally could be incompetent. Not but i think there's a few things to kind of land on. I've mentioned obviously there's the possibility that doesn't even survive the end of this series. I'm sure he's going to be in more episodes but if he makes it out of this series of live instill in this role. It is interesting to see him mention Specific things like robotics and nanotech because that most recently in nanotech. We've heard tony stark talking about that lot. That's the last suits that we saw him using in infinity war in endgame and we know that we have this armor. Worst thing coming up that. It's people going after tony's technology and road. He's going to be battling against that. So maybe maybe sword will ultimately play a role in armor wars and maybe Josh standards director hayward may come up against rhody at some point. Although i think they'll probably find a bigger villain for that at some point but that's something worth keeping an eye on at least for now But it's definitely coming secret invasion coming up sto exactly and that's where the place. Yeah we're gonna have to replace some of these characters. Though we know scrawls at some point right jerry. True but here's my my one issue with that in advance with secret invasion very excited about the nick. Fury entails team up. Because i thought samuel jackson ben mendelsohn were great together and captain marvel and i'm totally happy to watch an entire show with them. But i kind of hope that there's not too much secret invasion stuff going on right here with sword right now because what i don't want it to be is a replay of winter soldier. Where now you have bad scrawls and sword standing in for hydra healed and just being that same thing all over again with these double agent. So i hope there's something more creative in unique about that but certainly you know secret invasion is going to be tied into this somehow okay. Let's dive back into that. Monica has been grounded due the protocol. Set up by her mother. In case anyone who has disappeared suddenly comes back which might my first feeling. I didn't really think about this. I was like oh. She thought about something like the possibility of the snap happening. Viewing i was like. Oh no she knows scrolls and she put that protocol into action so that if someone mysteriously comes back they could be a scrawl right. Maybe but is this really wanna maria guidelines or is that just what acting director here told monica. See this is the problem with unreliable narrator. Plus though i mean she she was around. You know when the blip happened. And so i imagine they probably had to put into place. Okay all these people are gone. Here's what has to happen if they come back. Oh yeah that could have been a protocol made after okay fair enough to in heave and says you know like the the positive take away from this which actually makes me trust him. Less is because he's talent he gives. Monica look on the bright side about being grounded is that it meant that. Her mom believes that she would come back. there's a few other things that are interesting. I liked it. They hear that soared has history that predates infinity war. And so maybe. This is indeed the organization because nick fury has been clearly working with government or organization or agency. That isn't actually shield With whoever the hell they're communicating with Another talking to klein. Who's the guy who you know stood up to run low and everybody else in winter soldier before they get blips in the post credits scene of avengers infinity war but this organization clearly has been around for some length of time. We're not sure exactly how long we just know that Maria is the one who supposedly built Built the place. I also like how the official term for the people who got blipped is the vanished. And that's something that they've carried forward because that's what they call them in the memorial. That scott visits in san francisco during vendors. So just those little bits. That don't really mean anything story. Wise but that sort of consistent continuity is much appreciated by this mcu nerd. Yeah i know. This probably means nothing. But there's like this big map behind his desk. It's almost like star map. It's like a circle. Probably maybe it could be like map of the galaxy but was watching this. So that was like whoa. What are they gonna make a replica from this episode. I don't like the or the but you've made me think of something else here. Though if that is a star map maybe the reason he's acting director is because he's never going to be the permanent director because nick fury is already out in that space mission. We saw spiderman far from home. And maybe nick. Fury is director when he's only acting director while nick theories offer. Why wouldn't he told her that. I don't know maybe he will or maybe she doesn't maybe he's got ulterior motives and that's why he doesn't want to say i don't know okay. Some monica has sent on a missing persons case. That is in new jersey. The fbi has requested the use of one of their imaging groans. just kinda funny to me because like fbi doesn't have their own drones use but whatever for a chaperone chaperone the drone so she goes there and she meets james wu who is with the fbi and we last saw in men to he was the character that was kind of keeping track of scott lang and interestingly did you notice t the the introduction here the cartridge oh absolutely yeah of course. I immediately thought of youtube. I'm sure you had a good chuckle. Yeah that was cool to see whoo present his business card using the same magic trick. That scott lang cottam so that was kinda fun. Yeah and he was having a tough time of it when he was first practicing in his office in ant man and the wasp so i'm glad to see that he's mastered it his. He's been working very diligently on his close up magic. Yes we've made me a yeah. It's a strong clue that he wasn't blipped. These ad time to your it out. I guess that that's probably right. That's probably because manteaux took place. Before noah took place after the snap right nah it takes place like concurrently with it. Get the yeah and then soon after the main story has gone we get the mid credit scene and we're gone or everybody else has gone but we must have still been there and had plenty of time to practice after. I watched this on a midnight when it hits on thursday friday morning for me. It's like four hours of research for this. Podcast like trying to put everything together. And i do go like twitter and see what people are talking about and stuff like that To see if anybody noticed anything that i didn't and one thing. I noticed that not many people are talking about here in particular is the missing person. Like it's like a thing that is just put out there of the reason. It's like the thing to get them there. And it's like not a big thing but to me. Maybe that missing person is a big part of this mystery. I think so. Yeah what do you think well. Because i feel like if if the missing person was just a reason to get jimmy. Woo new jersey and discover what's happening in west view. And that of course ultimately gets monica and sword involved and i feel like as they're going through this process of seeing people you. Id that witness in this episode and jimmy. Woo says that's my guy But they never mentioned it again. He just has got a witness setup down the road in west view in this morning it looked like he flew the coop. And then it's of course going through. They do also use that to illustrate the selective amnesia that some people have like. Nobody who knew this person had ever heard of him. And all of that. But i feel like you circle back to it and you just close that loop if the witness isn't supposed to mean anything later on down the road so at this point i it's i think more likely than not i'll probably end up being wrong but i i'm with you. I think this is actually gonna turn out to be someone significant in this story brad. Any thoughts on this one. I hadn't really thought about 'cause if anything. I just thought it was the gateway to them. You know just just simply discovering but it would be interesting if that was a character that did come back to be an integral part of figuring out even more happened or maybe even you know somebody who wanted to bring attention to the situation without being directly tied to it or something who knows. What was the actor. Actor was the person that's playing ralph on that big board I know agnes was not there. Yeah agnes is on the board. Just not identified. The which i think is obviously key for her character. But we'll talk about that. We wouldn't know if ralph was on the board. We've not seen ralph But there was no mystery person who was up on the board who were like. Who's that person we haven't seen it yet and to even guess that. That's ralph ralph. So far is just like the sitcom tropes of the deadbeat. That wife complains about. But i still feel like that could ultimately end up being an actual character in here Or maybe he's the missing person are the witness Yes okay we'll get to that later. Okay not only. Can he not find the missing person but he can't find anyone who knew him in. The local law enforcement claims that the town of west view doesn't even exist even though the sign is right behind them so can either of you explain to me what is going on here because there's a sign there. There's a town birthday not able to see it. Yeah their their mind has been warped in such a way that anything tied to westview Is now acknowledged as not existing. It's all any memory or reference to it has been completely wiped from anybody who was previously aware of early at least in that area. Right the an east view though. I think i think that's just the substitute for like the whatever knowledge was they are. Maybe about westview now. It's just east view. Yeah i think so too. I think each view is a stand in for westview. it's what replaces it for the people that it's been white from their minds and i think monica's on the right track when she says like why don't why can we see it and know that it exists and these other people can't and yet it's because they have previous tied to it And you could say that whoever's generating this reality which this episode offers an answer by the end of it that's part of the as part of how it's protected and that's part of how it's insulated from everything else. Is that the people who would come looking. Don't remember it so they're not gonna come look and they're not going to come look and also it's not just the town remember what jimmy says about his witness all of his known associates and relatives. They ha they act like. They said they had never heard of him. So it's not just the town that's disappeared. It's the people within it have effectively disappeared from the world. Did he say it. In in that Sex pronin. He did say he used he and him when describing the witness. Because i say agnes right. Yeah my i watch through. I actually thought on my. I watched i thought. Oh it's going to be dotty. Because he never see. He's not watching the tv when he appears he's calling on the radio But he does use he and him pronouns. Interesting okay now. I know that there's a lot of stuff dropped in the background here. Sometimes it's like an easter egg. Sometimes it's a Some kind of clue to let us in on something. I did notice that the cop cars numbered cop car. Nineteen sixty six which sounds to me like a year and i looked up that year out up. Marvel i look up any kind of character that could be possibly connected to this series. And i couldn't find anything though is introduced in nineteen sixty six other than the organization. Aim who. I know we've talked about in the past because there's these people in these yellow suits which i think that thing kind of dismiss later in this owed But what do you what do you make of nineteen sixty six. Is there anything. There is is a reference to anything now. I don't think so. I mean we see the number on the helicopter guinness fifty-seven which most likely a reference to avengers fifty seven. Where vision debuted. But i don't know anything as far as nineteen sixty six. That would be specific to this story. It just seems so specific right like why not be sixty six or okay Monica fires a sore drone into the town down the street and disappear into the energy field Pride was it you or was benn who predicted that this kind of thing but we thought it was going to be a real helicopter. Oem i mentioned that maybe that the helicopter she found what was going to be like. It's funny because i had a grasp essentially what the concept was just not that it was a a drone instead of a real helicopter. Yes the only thing that got me when you propose that theory is like what happens to the people inside. Do they become I liked that. I liked the explanation. Here so monarchy examines the energy field. And it's kind of like the Pixel ization on an old television set. And she gets sucked in to the world as we know The next scene introduces a reintroduces. Us to cat demings character. Darcy lewis from the movie. She's now doctor what she doctor before she was assist now. She was an intern intern. Yeah what do we know about this character because it's been a been a while since the films so. We know that. She was a reluctant intern. She wasn't going to die for like twelve college credits or something like she. I don't even think 'cause. I'm pretty sure if i remember correctly with or like she didn't even try to. She didn't even intentionally want to intern for jane. Like it just kind of ended up working out that way. She had no interest initially astrophysics She just ended up being an intern for an astrophysicist Clearly she gained some passion for it by working with jane. She's gone on to get her. Phd and everything time since we last saw her which good for her and she probably didn't get get Looked away right because that takes time to get a doctor exactly as she's had plenty of time to take her education seriously and pursue it all the way to receiving her phd. And i'm happy for darcy lewis and cat denny's been on that bandwagon since day one. Not everybody loved her in the foot in the door films. I always thought she was hilarious. and i'll always be grateful to hear from you so i think that she's an awesome character and i loved it now. She's gone from. She still comic relief that she was bringing in those thor films house space is still one of the best lines in the mcu. Even if it's thor the dark world that line cracks me up But now that she's getting to actually drive plot forward and and make one of the key discoveries out that i think could potentially be a very very big discovery not just in terms of the the for setting up tv But yeah. I love the role that darcy's playing in this series based on this episode. A lot of people did not like her. I've always liked cat. Danny ings and i always felt like she was like one of the better parts of the horror films and I feel like this episode for me e even with that i feel like it. Kind of redeems. Her character a bit more i. It's going to redeem her character. The series of gonna redeemer character in general audiences. Brad what do you think. What are your thoughts on darcy. I'm sean i. I actually always getting in. The movie is she. You know she brought him. Comedic relief fund was an enjoyable character. And i like them bringing a character like this into these shows and giving her a a more significant role you know beyond just being a bit more of a normal person among all these you know. Big sort of superhero characters and You know government authorities and whatnot. And so yeah. It's it's a cool character to have this but especially since the vibe that soared has you know in this series very similar to whenever there is an alien counter or something like that and trying to get devices to figure out what's going on and communicate with people and that kind of thing so it's it's it's fun having her okay so they've set up a whole tent city which has been set up on the perimeter of this energy field surrounding the town. Also very reminiscent of thor were cat innings debuted. Because that's what they had. Similar things set up around meal near. She's living the same same day over and over all about that tent life although she wasn't in the shield tent They were selling other stuff Music she just downloaded okay. So darcy noticed a bunch of cosmic microwave background radiation that st m. b. r. yet which contains a signal Waiter in the episode. They mentioned that. This kind of radiation dates back to the big bang Now the only thing establishing them to you that dates back to the big bang are a stones. So i'm it sounds like you have a theory here i might. My theory was going to be that one's powers derived from an infiniti. Sounds like maybe that's why is that. You're thinking totally. I think this is the marvel science of how this is happening. You know like this is it's accomplishing a couple things. It's how were they able to tune into it. Well that relic radiation. The cnbc are has. It actually is something that popped up old televisions. That was the static like inbetween channels in the background noise that you would get on an old tv back when antennas were more common after. Tv's so that's the way in order to be able to view it but how has this been generated and constructed in the first place. Yeah that if you're talking about radiation that dates back to the big bang because the tv signal isn't the only c. n. b. r. That's that's a signal that she detected within all of this radiation so when. I think it's clear if we're talking about these as wong says in infinity war you know the big bang it was it sent six elemental crystals hurtling through the virgin universe. One of those being the mind stone which just so happens to be what gave wanda her powers or perhaps unlocked wanda's powers Maybe she already had it to begin with which. I think this series will eventually answer for us. But yeah this is how she's doing it. Her mind stone enhanced or connected powers are what's creating this whole thing which i think we would have guessed anyway if if wanda was going to be the source of it. This is how it is. But i liked it. There is a more technical pseudoscience explanation for it That i think also points to other things happening when we're talking about other characters potentially getting powers about later. Okay i'll i'm on i'm on the wavelength think So she orders the old tv and they realize that On the tv with the signal they see a tv. Show starring wanda ambition. And one of the things i love about. This episode is like the characters upside the characters and sword or like justice confused as albemarle fans watching the first episode of this show Darcy questions allowed The vision is not blipped but dead. So they're like making that clear to audiences. Because i know when the show started i that was the question. We asked a lot like. Wait what did he die or was he blipped. no he died ice. Yeah so. I mean yeah. Let's talk about that later because there's some interesting stuff later with The wine the episode for me is jimmy. Woo asking. So you're saying the universe created a sitcom starring two vendors right. I love that Also they confirm my suspicion that the end of the credit seen for the first episode darcy watching the tv although it doesn't feel like they film that like congruent lay because like they tried to cut it into the scene of like. She's watching the end of the sitcom with what we do. And they're just like having fun with it. But then like the cmo we saw an episode one was like her writing in a journal and putting it down. Which is how it guest because all female hand yeah female hand has darcy but there are inconsistencies. Wanda's delivery of the word. No from the end of episode two is also different in in broadcast. We see them watching versus what we witnessed. I just chock that up to this is what they chose for editing purposes. I don't know that it's really supposed to mean anything that we're seeing these differences. Okay so they begin their investigation proper. Jimmy who is writing questions on the whiteboard Basically he's writing all the questions we've been asking on this podcast and they're doing what we've been doing for weeks it's great it's almost it's so weird it's like an inception of sorts of like watching the characters on the show analyze the show that we've been analyzing it doesn't make any more sense to them than it does to us i love it yes And they put some questions on there. The i like. I said earlier. That i actually thought like might be wake things that i was reaching lake. Like hexagons like they said why. The hexagon hexagon on sheep. Which is something i've like. Oh maybe that's just like a stylistic choice for the television show and like you know based off you know the gem visions had like you know. Maybe there's nothing more to that. Maybe that's like just a visual choice. But it seems like there is something there because they're putting these questions on board or the general audiences that don't have this podcast to be like. Here's the questions you should be concerning yourself with right. I mean. I think it's just because they're watching the exact same show that we did for the first three episodes and so they're figuring things with the same way that we are because they even have scrolls written on the board as a thing of like is. Is there something here involving them to you know. So there's right there obviously in in our same position because they're seeing exactly what we we saw for those first three episodes and they don't know what means something and what doesn't you know why a hexagon is that going to be important or is it ultimately no matter what shape is perimeter is. And don't we don't know we should mention that whatever you can find the perimeter five miles and they showed this like three d computer table thing. That looks cool because it looks like it's tech those made from iron man or vendors or something in it shows the perimeter being this energy field. That's in the shape of a hexagon. Were going gonna say. Brad fire so this This episode made me wonder More a thought that. I was thinking at the end of the third episode. Which is how the difference in how time is passing between the neighborhood and outside because we finally get to see monica physically thrown out of westview and it's daytime in west view but then when she when she flies out and lands in the middle of the tent city that source created. It's nighttime so how is there any downtime for wanda and the sitcom as opposed to what's happening outside or is it all happening. You know episode after episode only over the span of what would essentially for us be end for sword an hour and a half i think time and space is not working the same way in the bubble that is outside the bubble but i will say brad that this is a question. I'm like such a nerd about those kind of things. And i'm like wondering they're not like they're they're there for longer than a you know an hour and a half. Yeah there's a there's that quick shot we see of Of monica in the show but at a moment that we hadn't seen her yet in the show right. Yeah the conversation between agnes and wanda which looks like based on his pants and set during the sixties episode. But it's not a scene we saw during that episode so other things are happening. Like i guess the the show that we're seeing is a different edit than the one that sword is seeing for whatever reason but i think time is passing in a similar fashion. But it's not quite the same like everything so far in this reality seems to be day day. One was wednesday august twenty third on the calendar. Anyway and that was the day of the dinner party which also would have been the day that monica. I went in there. Even if she hadn't been fully cast because day one outside of that reality it begins in the morning in oakland with jimmy will not being able to track down his witness going. I mean a lot happened in that first day because he says this morning he lost his witness and by that same day. He's in new jersey and has already tipped off. Sword already received help in. Monica drove from wherever sword as to meet. Jimmy woo in new jersey. But it's twenty four hours later when When darcy arrives so that's basically day to Effectively but we also don't know how long reality was going on before jimmy. Woo notice that his witness was missing. But in the sitcom realities each thing seems to be a day the only thing that throws me off on that is during the seventies episode when vision thinks that wanda is going to have the babies on friday. She says that's three days from now Which it wouldn't be. As actually the seventies episode would be friday if each episode was a single day and this is really a very long way of me saying i don't know how time is working inside that reality. It's very very weird. It doesn't seem to be exactly the same as what's going on outside of it. But i also like how they explain the noises all those explosions and loud bangs in episode two was all these different drones that soared kept flying in there and just losing. Who didn't even think about that at smart I i guess for me. I am west concerned like how time works inside. The what are we going to call. Energy field bubble hexagon our now. You can just say inside westview westfield west you could call it last few I'm working like how they're how does the time that they're how are they using it outside of westfield what i what. I'm kind of concerned like so when episode ends. What happens after that like is it. Just off the air as there's just like fuzz or like does it replay that episode because at one point like they interact with episode words. Yes i think even on the board at says same time in space so yes. I think it's the same time in space. I think it's a question mark though it's their questioned. Same time and space. They don't know that's one of the questions trying to figure out in the same way they tried to identify. Why it's sitcoms why there's a hexagonal shape for this perimeter around westview. I the steering on a previous podcast. I'm not sure if you said the same theory on your podcast sean. I wanted to get your thoughts on this. I i'd theorized that while we're waiting while they were waiting for that bombed exploit or something that they like sitcom for on and they kept what kept her saying Why this is kind of that. We're gonna learn something like that. I i think the sitcom thing actually even happens before You know as. I don't know how they're still watching tv. I'm like after it. Totally imploded their apartment. Wherever at i do think though that this is the uae sitcoms. I i do believe that's definitely been A theory that talked about like. I i think this is in the same way that television and even the mcu in its own way offers escapism for people That's kind of what it was for. Wanda zemo says in civil war. That's cova was a failed state long before the avengers are ultra showed up so it wasn't a great safe place to live and so for wanda for wanda specifically but probably also pietro. This was safety. It was reruns of classic. American sitcoms that were being broadcast in sokoto via this is what safe and normal ideal. Life kind of feels like to wanda. So this is what. She's escaping into in creating and shaping this reality and obviously doing what she can to protect it and so i do think it's rooted in that while i don't know if they watched sitcoms while they were waiting for start missile to explode and thankfully never did. It wouldn't surprise me if we do get a moment. Where we see Wanda and pietro as kids. You know at that moment where the missile struck and maybe they are in the room with mom and dad who may or may not be the two actors who keep showing up in the commercials and that's when the for their watching sitcoms. When that first stark missile hits it wouldn't surprise me if that's the way it plays out in the show. I do think that all these questions and things on this board are not just questions that they have but are things that they want us to think about. The wide sitcoms is at the same time and space is vision alive Could it be the scrawls you know are the scrawls involved I think they want us to think that. Like are these people real people or this girls and then there's also a point where like saying we tried to communicate with them through what like phone digital and eventually lead up to later in this episode where darcy figures out a way but I do think that all of these things are things that they want us to as an audience to think about it's kind of like putting them on our radar in case for not. Oh yeah get smart enough to. I think everybody they should know that. Everybody's wondering these things. These are the obvious questions that relate to the show but it is kind of that way kind of like. We're seeing with the way they're experiencing the show they're experiencing it like we are so it's like yeah us too. I think is kind of the message of swords. Investigation in this Okay darcy starts putting names the cast of characters mr and mrs heart or actually todd and sharon davis a lotta these names on this. Actually all the names really don't have any connections to marvel characters or anything. I have noticed that. Sharon davis and john collins which are two of the names there are art directors on one vision. So fun tie in there. But did you notice anything that i didn't know. And the names that we get when they play the credits at the end of the seventies episode at when it just cuts away from wanda confronting geraldine slash monica. That's also people who work on the show See i i don't think there were actual marvel connections there. I think the main point is that these are actual people because we that was one of the questions that was being asked by all of us. Being speculated about is who are all of these people exactly in what is the nature of them. And it's like no they're just regular people who are somehow trapped in this. Yeah we should notice that the note that they all have new jersey licensed cards which leads me to believe that that they're probably just people that live there but To notable names missing from that list could daudi and agnes although is also the mailman on the mailmen to yet And i'm sure there's some people at that magic show in the town but right there weser character. So that doesn't like non speaking roles right But i think you could explain that. She hasn't appeared yet right. Yeah an appeared at that point And darcy even says When they're setting up the radio contact. Jimmy's not watching during that moment. Which is part of what he had me. Wondering if that was the witness before i went back and re listen to the dialogue and heard the pronouns but unless dotty uses male pronouns in reality i don't know but as far as That character she just hasn't come up yet in the episodes at that point in the investigation. So that might be why. She's not on the board. But i still think dottie is going to be a big deal maybe not as big of a deal as agnes but certainly agnes sticks out like the sore thumb because she's on the board and they can't identify her yet. Yeah and they finally realized that monica's in the show as you mentioned they see the sword drone toy which is in colored darcy theorizes that it became a toy to render useless I think he's right. It's also confirmed with the tether for beekeeper guy turns into just a jump rope with the Able to pull back after he goes through the barrier will not and not just the jump rope but but his entire appearance goes from being what is right would normally be a biohazard suits to a beekeeper who with including i-it's that's around him exactly. Yeah which you think isn't aim reference in a comic book way because there has met suits that they wear their often referred to as beekeepers. So i do think it's a little nod. But i don't think it's an. I don't think it's meant to suggest to us. That is back in the. Mcu aim was tied was tied in pretty closely with andre kilian and not so much larger thing although if we get more doc in the in the mc will will get a proper aim. I don't know yeah. That was iron. Three right yes So owen also. I was going to mention that. I esau the guy in the the has mat-su go into the sewers while it was raining and then obviously when he comes out the sewers in the show. It's not raining. But i think he. I think that's like a day later or sometime later. Right it's not. It's still not raining at that point. So because brad saying before the the timelines highway is a little bit different like she got thrown out. It was nighttime but yeah daytime in the world. So yeah i mean he goes in before they've even started watching the show and so It it took him a while to to get there and that could be another thing of time working differently. Like you know they didn't Monica winning their long before he did and it took a while for her to actually show up in the reality. So you know maybe when you cross through the barrier you don't immediately pop up in west view or even if you do takes while for you to actually get involved in the action okay. Darcy has this idea to mimic the frequency of the radio. Show to communicate with them. On screen will communicates with wanda at the poolside community meeting Which we kind of knew because we knew that was his voice. I feel like a lot of this show like this episode is confirming things that we suspected. Yeah but there is. It is interesting because from them. There end. seems like it doesn't work. Are they seeing a different cut. What do you think are they seeing a different cut of this actual moment for broadcasts as she like changing the broadcast. It definitely seemed we are. There is evidence of that Very quickly after that that something happens. Where there's there's some kind of cover up in that we don't see everything that happens in west view and that that happens in front of wanda so there's clearly some A quote unquote editing on the part of wanda as to what's being put out there. Which makes me wonder altogether why it's like this is something that's even being put out there in that formula. What what purpose does it serve. The why would she give anybody in opportunity to stumble upon this and potentially try to stop hurt which feeds on the idea that maybe she's not the only one involved in this the creation of the sitcom world because it would seem weird if she did something that would just give her up. You know But but yes so. So whether it's wanda that is missing with the actual signal or if it's somebody else you know it's that i think i don't know i don't know the the other thing i want to mention. Is that jump rope. That like i feel like we've all played with the jump rope of in quality of like what is it like fifties or sixties or seventies like. I know i had one or we had tons of those in my gym as a kid And i think the interesting thing here is not that it turns into jump rope but when they real the still wire back it The their they have the a piece of the jump rope in the the reality outside of west view which to me maybe signals. That there's a way to pull things out of the energy field. Well monica when she goes through it. She's wearing the same clothes she was wearing inside of it. So yeah whatever's inside. If it goes through the barrier can remain intact. Don't know that principle will apply to vision. That will remain to be seen but Yeah it definitely seems like Oh when you're going through the barrier you change but if you're coming out of it you it. Whatever it is the physical properties remain the same as as they were when they were inside. Westview i just thought of something. What what what. If what the bubble that surrounding westview isn't just a force field that keeps it separate from the mt. But what if it's the the like the has become a gateway to an alternate reality which is why vision is somehow back. And maybe they're like there is mind stone in that alternate reality that she used to bring vision back but only here in the middle of this neighborhood the middle of nowhere that be it that that is like one of the alternate earths that exists that she that she's living in definitely possible. I'm not even sure. If wanda needs a mind stone at this point like i feel as her powers almost superseded the mind stone like she used the mainstone against vision to push through the floor and like through the ground. All the way to the center of the earth. Just about at avengers compound and captain america's civil war So but yeah either either way. It's milestone stuff and the idea of it tapping into an alternate reality. I think is still something that has to be on the table here question. You pose though brad. Like if she's letting people see television show but she's censoring part of it like why. Let anybody see the show at all. Like i get why she would want to censor it because he doesn't want anybody to want to go in because they see people being harmed and people being endangered but if she's she could avoid that entire thing by not broadcasting her show yeah maybe she doesn't just wanna live in a television show. Maybe she wants to be a television star now. One of the thing about this is like who is controlling what things become when the enter this energy field to me. I don't feel like it doesn't seem like wanda is aware when something comes through the field. She didn't know geraldine was in there and she didn't know the plane until she found it so to me. It almost seems like it's it's a spell or What a which would do is put a hacks on something And the heck's is a hexagon. Am i reading too much into things whether or not it has to do with the hexagon. I don't know but it doesn't it tracks. Something is going on here. I don't know that it's i mean you could say that this reality. It's a thing where whoever set it up be wannabe agnes be somebody else that. It's just an automatic thing that as something comes through. It will be modified so that it does not break the reality that they are in and that may be all. I don't know that somebody is making an active choice. Like when agent franklin goes in somebody like hitting a button to be like. Who is this guy going to be. Got it beekeeper. Or is it just the thing that automatically happens yea automatic. One thing that i wonder about is if the whether is this just wanda's powers and if it's one is powers are these powers that came from the mind stone these powers maybe somehow came from the reality stone which is read like wanda's powers and has the ability to manipulate reality. And we've seen how that works when you know thanos. Tricked all the guardians of the galaxy into thinking that they were coming into Nowhere looking completely different. When it had already been destroyed by him he made. It looked like it was everything was fine and abandoned but hasn't that been destroyed directly will but the stone could be gone but if her powers potentially came from the reality stone than shoot would still have the abilities that stone might have provided her yet. We just haven't had a connection between her and the reality stone in the timeline though. Right yeah for sure. We haven't seen the stone that was in loki sector is the one. Obviously that would be there. The reason why powers may be read instead of any power associated with the mind zone which we've seen blue when it was inside the sceptre and then we see yellow energy is certainly one of the prevailing theories. That's out there. Is that the mind. Stone did not give wanda her powers. The mainstone merely unlocked the powers into the debt. Unlock the gene or some other m. You explanation for how. She has powers because we know. They experimented on a lot of people with loki sector and they all died except for one day pietro which points there was already something special within them at allow them to survive in in game powers. So i take. The red is being kind of a wand thing not necessarily a reality thing but yeah that is definitely the color of that stone and it does have some similar visual components to it sides the color. Okay let's get back to the episode. Darcy asset loud. Why are they switching decades. Can't just be for my enjoyment kennett now up until this moment switching decades thing i thought was just like it just made sense like you know the next day. Is this decade. The next day after that this decade and there's they're never gonna explain it and it's just like a a fun. tv thing to do with the show But when you have a character on the show asked the question out loud and and you can answer. That feels to me like there's some. This is a question we should be asking. It definitely is because wanda doesn't appear to be making a conscious choice when we transition from black and white to color at the end of episode to like as she surprised by it when she sees vision has changed from his head anyway from black and white to color and then as color washes over the reality. I mean we know from other pieces in clifton trailers and stuff that she does have the ability to manipulate things when she wants to but things are also happening when she's not deliberately choosing it so that's either her subconscious is powering things and she's not fully in control or she's not the only one who has the ability to drive this reality I think that's probably brad. Do you have any theories by. I think that. I think you've hit on. Probably the answer that it's not in her control. Yeah no i mean. We talked about that before about how it seems like things are happening that she's not aware of that. She's not controlling because obviously the neighbors are sometimes talking. And there's you know there's times when the people who are being controlled by her are trying to you know seemingly snap out of whatever transparent why they're being forced to act this way so as an aside from that there are obviously things that are happening. That aren't fully in in her control. So i i think that there is definitely some other influencing power end as we talked about before it all signs point to agnes probably being involved in that somehow against a wu and dorsey are basically watching this show. In geraldine says altron. They're all shocked as we were moment. the end of the seventies episode is basically out in d'arcy concludes that someone is censoring the broadcast Then we get to see what actually happened After that mentioned we see one angry. She says geraldine is not her friend. She is a stranger in an outsider. Who is here. She wants her to leave and center flying through not only her wall in the fences. That's rounder house. But many yards through the energy field wanted then fixes the damage with her magical powers Before gets vision because there's a bunch of stuff to occupy here. What do we think about this thought. Spread i mean in in what way i mean. Is this what you imagined happened. Oh yeah for sure. And that's mostly just. Because i i remembered exactly what happened in in the trailers and so they they they actually showed a shot of her flying out of the neighborhood and i think we talked about on the last episode because When we saw her flying. I i mentioned that. We hadn't seen the shot of her being thrown from the neighborhood during the day and i thought maybe she might go back in and get thrown out for a second time but this is where that truck comes from. Obviously yeah okay. So wander is admiring the babies when vision walks in the front door and asked where where's geraldine. This is the moment we saw before but when one looks at vision he looks like he died. He looks like The moment in infinity war when the infinity stone was ripped from his forehead in his face turned gray. He looks like that. And it's like so very shocked because we've seen this moment before it's not something we expect. You know it's very unexpected. Very very morbid in previous episodes of this podcast. I've asked if vision is maybe recovered data. Because they put some data in in the computer in kanda yet in the end if wanda was somehow interacting with them and kind of Emulation or something. Like that or if wanda was using a surrogate person to be vision like turning sewing imagining their vision kind of way. Cow kinda haikai wonder woman wonder woman nineteen eighty-four not quite yet. But you know imagine how that really bothers me about that okay. is but now now it seems creepy yes she interacting with her corpses. She like magically making her corpse the corpse of vision come alive and have sex with her. I mean i'm not sure if if that's necessarily the case at one point they do but but it's also it's sitcom also not you never know no but it didn't even walking and talking in these scenes for real. Yeah that's like. That's what i i don't. I don't know if she's using like his his body and making its move which would make it infinitely creepy or if that's just a flash that she has in her mind where she she were. It's just a memory. You know From trauma of seeing him in that in that way and because it's so showing that she slowly kind of lose control of of what she seeing. What's happening well. And he's not purely a puppet right because he's asking questions and being skeptical in ways that she doesn't want to be and so that's the part that i think is interesting with vision that he still clearly has some agency and this it's not like she is completely in control of him all the time and she even has this little conversation with him and yet the visual of dead vision from infinity war was startling. But it's also what it's also wanna response to it like. She looks away and this whole thing has been masking trauma burying it under. She doesn't actually look back up until he's back to being the vision that she wants expects to see but then the conversation that they have where vision knows the deal here. Whatever this is. This version of vision is knows what's going on. We don't have to stay here. We could go wherever we want and then she says no we can't this is our home and he asks are you sure. And then oh. Don't worry darling. I have everything under control like that exchange m. Maybe she's saying no. We can't go wherever we want. Because if we leave westview you're not alive. Your only alive inside here but vision still seems to be capable of having a lot of his own thoughts and making his own choices here. So he's not entirely a puppet. I don't know how exactly this is working. What are the theories is. It looked like sure he did save her work. At the end like when she saw corp exclave in infinity war she turns back around and hits a couple buttons on the screen so that she say a last save file and one on eyesafe my work and i'm not smarter sherry so i mean she definitely did yes. She totally did But then also like the part of vision. That's missing and this is the part. Where maybe wanda does have influence is the milestone. They establish infinity war though that he's not entirely the mind zone us tony. He's banner he's ultra. He's jarvis he's all of these things including the mind stone and if wanda is able to synthesize effects of the mine stone in order to create this reality she's also capable of synthesizing effects of the milestone to power so that allows him to have a big part of himself who he always was. But also this part that she's able to control and manipulate but it's it is it's not her being in full control of it. Her only controlling that one part of him last episode herb Tried to tell vision. Were all agnes stopped him and we were all kind of wondering what was he going to say was he gonna say trapped or was going to say dead. I know dead's more morbid. And i'm not sure how you follow up with that in a disney marvel show but But also one of the of the previous episode. I mentioned that westview doesn't sound to me like the name of a town but actually sounds to me like the name of psychiatric hospital and of course that line of thinking that that line of thinking. We're not going in that direction. I think that's been proven that she's not being she's not you know right controlled by like what i was. Thinking is not happening. But i was wondering. Maybe maybe westview isn't is maybe westview could be a morgue or cemetery were vision wise and she went to visit it. End somehow ended up turning it into the town. It's a town filled with dead people. I don't think so. Because i mean the the whole setup for this episode is that they've stumbled upon this town that no one. Is you know wherever members but there are obviously people who were living in it. And so i would think that they would probably notice a trend of like here all these people in this town but they all died years ago you know. They obviously have their driver's licenses able to figure out who who they are. So i'm sure that they were Has just taken over a neighborhood. That was very much a normal neighborhood before she came into it. Yeah all my theories are going to be good theories guys to be one interesting question of why this town. I mean. It certainly helps that. It's very small though. That is maybe part of the appeal. Is it needed to be big enough to have like that. Sitcom feel like the townfolk and all that make sense but it can't be so big that it's going to lead to a lot of questions eventually leads to questions anyway because it's still enough people that you're going to wonder about all these people who went missing but i don't think they're all dead anymore. I certainly had that thought i was like. Oh they all dead covenes. And this is purgatory. That's wanda has tapped into That theory seems to be shot. There are all alive in the only one who maybe is not alive is is vision. But then it does lead the question. Why westbound beside the the size of the town. We don't know that wanda's the one who chose it and even if she did we don't know that it was originally her idea. Maybe it's something that she was oriented. You know maybe somebody else pointed her in that direction and l. That somebody else might be agnes for all we know while she does tell vision that they can't go elsewhere. So why can't they move. Why can't you move this artificial reality somewhere else like. It seems like that'd be pretty easy. Maybe here if you could create a anywhere while we don't we also don't know how difficult it was to do this or in in how how taxing it is on her if she were to try to do it again especially if she had to get. Somebody's help to maybe do it. Also in the seen. Wanda i think pretty much confirms that. She's in control of this world. She doesn't confirm then. You know obviously the next scene where monaco wakes up having been thrown out of the energy field and she basically says to the audience into the sword and everything. It's all wanda Then we get a glimpse back inside. Westview wonder says vision. What should we watch tonight. And then there's this look envisions face yet which i couldn't quite like under stand water. What you was a weird look. So i do this thing were. Maybe you'd call it cheating in turn on the. There is an audio track. This called the audio description track. It's for. I think people that are they can't see well or wind in it. Not only has the audio of the show but it also describes what is happening on the show. And we've used that in the past in the mandalorian episodes where like has kind of given us clarity on stuff here. It says that vision has an uneasy walk. So if you're looking for the intention if you're looking at what it probably sidon scripts it was uneasy. Look yeah. I think it's not buying that wanda has everything under control. Yeah okay so the music starts playing it's jimi hendrix voodoo child. Which i think is not only cool. Because this is an awesome like what sixties or seventies kick ass song but these two basically just gave birth to twins the result of voodoo magic right. Is there anything else we should be looking at this. So interestingly enough the so there's the longer version of the song is buddha child and then the the the basically what you would call the radio edit is voodoo child in parentheses slight return which kind of seems like an interesting nod to also vision coming back but maybe only slightly but but yet using the song is not only cool just because you know reminiscent of time but just the the implications of title for shore. Yeah the lyrics that play over the credits is. The portion of the song were says. If i don't meet you no more in this world than i'll meet you in the next on me on the next one. Don't be late. don't be late so you could say. That's a little bit of wanda envisioning their relationship right. Now it's not very direct. But i think it's the energy of the song. Yes the witchcraft. That seemed to be involved in the creation of Of the twins. And that's also another thing like wanda didn't go into the reality. Wanting to have children. That was an idea that was planet in her head by agnes in it all involved a for the children talent show ritual that near the whole town dadi to give them an award afterwards. So there's still other witchcraft Stuff here that's why when monica says it's two lines. It's it's wanda followed by. It's all wanda. I believe the first line. Not the second one. I believe it's wanda. I don't believe it's literally all wanda i think that If it is. I'd probably be disappointed by that explanation. 'cause it's too obvious from the comic books with hausa them but it's also too early to give us such an oversimplified explanation and stick with it. This is episode. Four out of nine so I'm not totally believing that there's clearly other forces in play That are influencing wanda. Even if she thinks she has everything under control. Okay so they sit down in front of the tv envision uses the remote to turn it on in. Interestingly right now. The screen goes from wide-screen to four by three for the first time in this episode in alabama. I didn't even notice that. The the the points of the show were showing us like the seventies sitcom world weren't in the proper for by three aspect ratio. That's i think that's because much in the same way it happened in the previous episode when it widened is the ratio changes when we break the sitcoms reality whether it's by going into the real world of the marvel cinematic universe outside of the sitcom bubble or by seeing what is actually happening. That's not being aired on tv radio. I also think this might indicate that next next time when we have the next episode which. I'm speculating could be now. Back to our regularly scheduled programing. We're gonna be back to the sitcom format. yes i think. That's that's a very safe bet. Okay that leads us into our speculation segment so you guys both agree that next week. We're gonna get the ninety nineteen eighty s sitcom. Yeah but but what. I'm curious about now. Is now that we've flashed outside to what is happening with sword in the real world if we'll get more cross-cutting then changing back and forth because now that we know sort watching we will we get like analysis going back and forth in quote unquote real time as they're watching the show or will be a thing where we'll have another batch of episodes where we're just watching the same way that they are and then we'll have a whole other episode with back with sort again I do think that they are introducing this whole aspect ratio thing so that they can eventually get to the point that their inter cutting and we can easily tell what world were. I mean i guess you could tell from the production but it is also i- indicator of the the aspect ratio is well yeah What do you think shaun. D think next episode. Do you think will see an intercut or do you think will be a purely nineteeneighty to calm. I don't think it will be purely nineteen eighties i. I don't think you can peel back the curtain. Show us the other side and then make us forget about it for a week. I could be wrong. May only take a week for me to turn out to be wrong about that. But i feel like at this point we need to keep track of all the different things that are happening or at least the main plotlines that we have going here and so i do think that i don't know how they'll do it. Like it may not necessarily be cutting back and forth. They could just open with sword and going to the sitcom reality or start the succumb reality in the end with sword or they could have soared book ending a sitcom episode. Because the i do think the run times will evolve. I mean we've consistently had a half hour but maybe now we push to like thirty five or forty minutes where we still get a full length sitcom episode but it is book ended or it is intercut with some of the things going on with sword. But i don't. I don't think we're just gonna completely abandon sword and go back to Just be surely in com world the entire time for next week's episode. I'd be surprised if that's the result. And i think that will be if anything will happen is we'll start seeing more interruptions as wanda loses. Yeah throw or as sword starts to infiltrate more because like there's even. I know one of the things that's coming up. That was in like. I don't know if there's a trailer. Tv spy but in the eighties sitcom world. There's a part where agnes like seemingly kind of breaks character. Inches like Lately we just take it from the top and like why looks around. Confused like wait. What's going on and that's a big moment because in that. I think that's next week. Because i think that's eighties. Agnes is wearing her spandex. Yeah that happens and agnes does a similar trick that wanted an episode to with the rewind like take it back and so far. That's only thing that we've seen wanda do. We don't know who did that. Jump cut during the seventies episode. It was prob. Maybe it was wanda. Get another rewind but when vision was saying. I think something's wrong here but it shows that agnes has the has ability to manipulate this reality in ways. That are very similar. To what wanda has the ability to do which again flies in the face of that idea. That monica communicates at the end. Which is it's all wanda. That's still very honest from monica's perspective in her experience because she's only experienced the control of wanda this environment but in seems like there's at least one other player here and that other players agnes in will that part will be revealed next week. So who we think. Agnes is i mean. Do we think she's agatha harkness. I think so. Yeah it makes the most sense. I'm sure obviously it won't be as many marvel things taken from the comics. It will not be. You're not able to do a direct. Lift or adaptation of who agatha isn't what she does in the comics but that she will definitely be represented by this character for what she's doing and why i think that's that'll be a big reveal for sure Do we think mephisto into this at all. I know we've talked about this in the past Couple episodes with jacob but china. I wanted to hear what you thought of that theory. It's tough. I mean the evidence is there with you. Know when agnes even kind of acknowledges that when dadi says the devil's in the details. Bev and then agnes says that's not the only place he is so and agnes does appear to be genuinely terrified of something when herb is about to reveal to vision the truth of this world. What is agnes so scared. Love is that is she. Scared of what wanda's powers would be. Wanda is the one responsible for this. And and what that would unleash if people break this reality for wanda. Maybe it's my fist. Oh maybe it's the high evolutionary who also has ties to wanda her origins and everything in the comic books so it could. Those theories are still out. There feels a little less likely. Because of how much focus they're narrowing our focus on wanda I also feel like with agnes. It may be a combined thing where she's agatha harkness but in the version. She's also mephisto where she's also the high evolutionary and has may be playing the role that those characters have played his. You could say that. Agnes playing herb in that moment like agnes pretending that she's a victim just like all of them are but she's the one controlling this whole thing or she's the one who's controlling it just as much as want as if not more in that moment though doesn't like she controls them not to say anything but she plays it like. She's scared like she's begging him. As opposed to commanding him. She's not using this force will look towards him saying like you better not say it or i'm going to get you. It's more like please. Don't say this but again that could be a conn that the whole thing of like she doesn't want she's not telling the truth division or wanda but she's also not telling the truth to her or jones dadi or any of them although i still think dottie is also a witch because why is agnes that was also misdirect and this is why these theories go on forever as they all have different avenues. You can go down but that could be a misdirect to like body. Is the key to everything. And i tell you that that you don't look at me but it dotty did give the blessing before the pregnancy happened. So dadi is still worth keeping an eye on. And obviously everybody's watching agnes very closely. I'm also confused. Like i like this theory that they were trying to have them have children. But if i recall don't they have sex like don't go underneath covers beginning in the second episode before all this for the children's stuff comes about they do but it feels like first off. It's anatomically impossible for a synthesis to impregnate a human woman. So that's not happening. You don't think it happened in that incident. Okay now it's not a natural pregnancy. Like yes they do have to. They do need to have sex. Because agnes is obviously drawn. Agnes driving that in episode one. What about seduction techniques. So that is part of the process but to make sure that that sex results in a pregnancy. Everything else is for the children. Will i think it's for. Tommy and billy and the pregnancy doesn't happen until they are successful at the fundraiser and agnes is monitoring when you watch an episode to. She's looking closely at the crowd and she's actually even relieved when the crowd kind of buys the you know all the bullshit illusion glamour or selling that. They're not really power that this is all cheap. Magic agnes very kind of happy by that result and daddy does ultimately give them a the key to everything which may be bullshit. Maybe real Like in sorry. We're not using pg thirteen language on your podcast no But you can use a language blurb. If you want to steve rogers me but i think with this stuff with the blessing like the timing to me feels intentional. And i don't. They didn't just have a pregnancy when they woke up that morning. It's after everything that was supposedly for the children happened was successful so the bottom line is were kind of all on board the train thinking that this is all like the end goal is to have them have children that someone can steal in us to their own purposes. I mean that was sort of the comic book with me. So and so i mean it's complicated because the children were real and they weren't than they were again. It's weird but the you could say is the one who wants to children because she effectively is mefissa in the story or the she wants the children because she knows that somebody worse actually wants. The children and agnes is just trying to get them. I in order to help protect them because he knows the children are going to be here either way. Those questions are still. I think those questions are still out there and not totally resolved by the information. We got in this episode. Brad do you have any other speculation for a episodes Not not necessarily you speculation as far as what What i guess will happen but that we did see some interesting new things. Today in the episode promo Rather feels like a season promo for what's coming up on one division after today's episode elmont. Wait a second. Oh that i have not seen this. But i'm not i don't care about being spoiled Before he said there was one other thing. I want to get to in case. People don't want to know about that one last thing We didn't get to talk about. Sean was kind of insinuating that she got her powers. When she gets thrown out of west you might have might have. What are you. Well some of that is also partially formed by a clip of what's coming You know ahead in the season but but let's get into that okay. Yeah anybody wanna hear us. Talk about the the cup of upcoming episodes Tonight now thank you for listening. Okay go so it. Looks like wanda's undergoing kind of a medical check-up like i don't know if it's an mri or whatever it is that you could say. That's just for her head because it seems like Obviously when she was there she didn't have a full sense of who she was. And so maybe they're just checking her to make sure like okay But it wouldn't surprise me if this is how monica gets powers because she's gone through this thing and we know the mind. Stone has the ability to give or unlocked powers infinity stones in general have an ability to grant or unlock powers the mind stones. Not the only one captain marvel has her powers the the space stone with light speed engine so that could certainly be something and also i mean it is radiation and radiation has famously given marvel characters and other comic book characters powers for ever. So there is that part of it. there's also something that when they talk about the radiation getting larger and i have to credit Somebody who's part of my patriot community in one of my listeners. alex Who wrote this up when we were having a conversation about it the other day somebody else lives in new jersey and her name is kamala khan and she's an inhuman in the comics and that's how they explain her getting her powers. But if you're going to have some big growing radio radioactive event then yeah. This could be monica. Rambo getting her powers but this could be taking the place of the terrain cloud that gave kamala connor powers which there's no basis for in the mcu at this point or not the mc proper because they never did in humans from agents of shield. This could be something that reaches across further across the state and unlocked powers for kamala khan. And there's a connection for monica. Rambo and kamala khan joining carol. Danvers and captain marvel two. I mean i know. I'm blowing up the balloon too big and that's probably not what it is but these are. These are the things i spend my time thinking about. Hey i like these theories brad. What did you want to talk about in that upcoming preview. yeah. I was so busy preparing upset. I didn't get to watch. Yeah well so Earlier this week there was a a a a tease. That was meant to be for Episode four but the footage in. It wasn't just footage from episode for. And what one of the shots we specifically wrote about. Because it was so surprising and we hadn't seen anything before was From some kind of vehicle. That looked like it was going through the the colorful of force field that has Surrounding westview and so. We didn't know exactly what was what was happening there but the thanks to the new sneak peek. That was posted today. We know that it's a sword vehicle and it's ramming into the force field. It's not clear who's driving it or anything like that but clearly at some point somebody is going to get inside that vehicle and try ram through to get into westview in that vehicle and then on top of that Also dealing with the the age of the force field there's a shot of a vision not enclosed or anything in his normal avenger form Walking to the edge of the forest field and then there's a shot at him on the other side in the real world but he is like in the midst of collapsing to his knees and seemingly screaming in pain. so interesting things coming up on one of vision. How can vision exist outside of westview. I guess it really comes down to the question of what is vision right now. What are we looking at. What is this creature. Any of us. Have the answer to that one now. I mean the comics point in a direction where there was a point at which vision kind of lost who he was and so he was dead and he came back. And that's when you had white vision and so There's already kind of a little set up there with gray dead vision in the mcu from infinity war and that we got a peek of again in this episode so there is a world in which vision could be alive. As i said. I mean whether this is what's happening now where it happens later on down the line wanda perhaps using her mind stone abilities to synthesize the effect of the mind. Stone is as much as vision needs to be alive but if it's not fully the mind stone will he be back to being his full and complete true self and the comics. He wasn't when he came back at least not for a while and then eventually they figured it out so vision can have a future outside of westview. There is a comic book basis for it at the mcu version may be that. Yeah you may try to leave and and be completely unable to and and unable to survive outside of that. Hexagon you know as much as i like him as vision. Wanna see more vision. I really against them doing this thing where they keep bringing people back from the dead. I know that's a comic staple. But i feel like that's when i read comics. That always bothers me. 'cause there's no stakes in anything because someone can die and they can be brought back in any ridiculous way and if if they aren't gone forever. Then what's the point it if you can exist outside of this westview then why does he have to live in west you with her. Why can't they just live in the real world wanted. Don't forget when he walks out of that bubble. He seems to be collapsing as that. He probably can't survive outside. Of so i would imagine that that will will get an answer that he probably will be able to live if he walks away from whatever's happening inside this bubble i don't know if vision will make it out of west i. I do think that children will survive. I don't think they only live inside of westview. Otherwise why would anybody want them if they if their power and mere existence is limited to this area. Somebody else other than wanda wants. Those kids agnes and maybe somebody else as well. So i think the kids will ultimately end of course marvel comics. Tommy is speed billy as wiccan. They're young avengers. Marvel seems to be going in a young avengers champions sort of direction with all the young heroes are introducing. So they feel like they're feels like those characters are gonna make it out of here. Wanda will as well. We know she's going to go and doctor. Strange in the multi of madness but your vision is still a question mark. I'm okay with vision coming back if he is altered because there are stakes to it because like even if he was resurrected he's not fully resurrected not fully himself. But i do take that point of you know. You can't bring back everybody all the time. Yeah and i feel. Like if i think i i agree with that. I feel like vision. Can't make it out of this alive because as we talked about before i think jacob was the one who theorized this is that it would be you know a big deal if you know wanna lost vision again thinking he was able to have this happy ending with him and that might her into a spiral where she truly loses control and makes her the villain of doctor strange in the multi madness Yeah i think that's where we're headed But guys we. We've been recording for almost two hours now so four times the length of the episode that we were this has been the longest upset of a any for spoiler reaction by take partial credit for that congrats. Shine congrats now. 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'The Mandalorian' Spoiler Discussion Podcast

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'The Mandalorian' Spoiler Discussion Podcast

"Hello everyone and welcome to slash daily for Tuesday November twelfth. Two Thousand Nineteen on today's episode weren't talk about Disney pluses the Mandal Laurean. We have seen the the first episode entitled Chapter One. And we're GONNA have a spoiler filled discussion about that joining me. PODCAST is slash home weekend editor her bread omen. Hey that's me in special guest Bryan Young. Who is from Star Wars Insider Star Wars Dot com in the fullest podcast? He reviewed viewed this episode for US ON SLASH DOT COM Thanks for joining US Brian. It is indeed my pleasure. I feel like you're The the best expert and Star Wars mythology that I know so. I'm glad to have you here with us. and It is my birthday so Glad Bob Egger decided to release Disney plus in the middle or in my birthday. I think yes so there's that Okay with let's get into it. Let's talk about our brief reactions. This all start things off and I think I do you know Brian and I both saw like a package of footage of you weeks backing. I had a reaction back then. Somme reactions kind of similar This is pretty incredible. It's it's it feels more like a spaghetti western a space Spaghetti Western than I guess Star War even if star wars could be described as that I think I saw someone online. Say It felt more Tony like firefly than Star Wars. But I don't think that's a bad thing Phony can be felt all over this from the humor to the action due to the you know how he chooses to drop in star wars mythology and I love the little tease at then. I'm very very intrigued. To wear the series is GonNa take us Brad what was your thoughts. I thought this was fantastic. It's pretty much exactly what I wanted from a show like this. I think that it really dig into the Seedier side of the Star Wars Universe especially In time after things. I'm very uncertain after the fall of the empire I like that. It has a different genre field and we used to star wars as opposed to just feeling lake general. All Star Wars in spirit I think this is where the future of style Star Wars lies. You know this is. This has the this The visual look and the aesthetic of the original star wars trilogy but had this John where that is distinctly Western within the galaxy of you know star wars characters and I like seeing you you know Jon favreau. And the various directors that are doing these episodes play in the Star Wars Universe. But do something that doesn't exactly feel like star wars but has elements that we've mall come to love and recognize the universe by the way that soundtrack it's like so much different than any other star wars soundtrack. I'm loving it Brian. What did you think? Think of the first episode so I was really nervous. I think I expressed this to you. When we watched some of this footage which was actually a lot of this episode that we saw they? I was really concerned that we were GONNA get to grady in too dark and too over the top with a what I would call the sensibility of a thirteen year olds. Idea of how. Cool Star Wars is. But I was really gratified as we watched the episode to see that it didn't take itself too seriously. That was all matched equally with a With a knowledge of the Lore and I respect for it but also with humor that was there. Were there were laugh out loud. Funny Moments I mean. I don't think I've ever seen more suicidal droid and and that was such good stuff and the ending Hook had me right. I was already picking up tones of of Lone Wolf and cub and this just It made me twice as interested in seeing the next episode. Were they left us off here. Yeah for sure I feel like I am noticing the the people there are some people that don't Lo- they like this. But they don't love this in the criticisms I'm generally being around is that the main character is like because he's underneath a mask that it's hard to relate with him it's you know. We're not seeing a person's face for not getting you know he's a mystery. We get a little bit of his origin. We'll talk about that later but I feel I like that. Is the one criticism that I'm seeing a lot on twitter from people actually even Kit Try watched With my girlfriend and she had some problems relating with this carrier. Why should I care about this character So there's that age should be acknowledged. Okay let's let's dive in because There's a lot of questions around this episode Let's start with Okay so the beginning of this episode involves mandatory in tracking a bounty. He goes to some icy planet. Any he gets this guy in a bar. That's as bad as fight. Were one of the guy gets ripped into by the the door. And there's that totally bad ass line. I can bring him bring you in warm or can bring you in cold The so there's this creature that health taxis with this musical instrument what what what is that brain. That's that's a coup as we I saw those in a new hope Garin Dan was the imperial spy that alerted the the empire. We're to the Millennium Falcon Docking Bay in most Eisley and That was the that was the first time we saw one of those creatures in star. Wars and I I don't really. I think we might have seen some in the background but nothing Major in some of the cartoons but This is the first time they've come back into the world of Star Wars. Is it like this episode. Has some weird comedy to it. I feel like These now that they are like basically the guy the hand the candles attacks. The outside of the Blasio is like the role. It's it's interesting that you've got like yeah like you've got that but also the fact that the guy he's hauling in his Horatio Sanz and the guy who's who's the taxi drivers Brian Pro Sane. Yeah I loved seeing like little bit parts played by Comedians like that. It was so fun to me. Yeah no it really was. But then you've got the added element where it's like. This is silly. But then as the story unfolds you realize what the man delorean's problem with droids is that he was a survivor of the clone wars and that his parents were sort of taken away by the separatist army. If you look in those shots of his parents you can see super battle droids. They're sort of terrorizing them and taking him Like taking them from him in that way and So when he says no droids it plays like a funny moment. But then it gets added dramatic relevance when you learn later more about him so I I really think that that's just great filmmaking having that stuff work on multiple levels even when it seems like it's just a joke on the surface I I actually. It was going to ask you about the droid a you know. Why did he not trust drives? Because the first car that's called speeder that's it's called is piloted by Dryden. He didn't want to get into it. I did not pick up on that Later on so I'm curious to hear what else you picked up on in that scene but we'll we'll get more that will be revealed. That flashback to you because there was There were better shots of what that flashback in the trailers that where it was clear that there were super battle droids and it moved much too fast. I think in this episode to really Pick up on that unless you were looking for. Yeah no it was definitely a frame by frame kind of situation to pick them up But I really loved like just just. It's really great screenwriting. Being I think on five rows part and great directing on felonious part or that you started with the scene of him saying he doesn't like droids and doesn't want to deal with them you. show the flashback. That if you're paying careful attention to you see that he's a survivor of an attack by the separatist droid army and then you have him forced to deal with I g eleven and by the time you hit that moment where I g eleven's going to Make his final move. It's almost like a turn again. That's both surprising surprising and inevitable about what he did with the droid. so that thread of his attitude about droids fits in with every like Throughout the entire piece it's it's barely noticeable that I run through and it's just it's really clever writing. Let's talk about this first. Bounty that is bringing in the Blue Guy I don't know his name offhand. I don't think he has a name. He's species he referred to as a myth. Aril throw a myth all it it seemed like this was establishing a setup. They he was going to be a big a bigger character in the series but quickly we find out that he gets you know frozen in carbonate and is dumped off for you know the bounty in. I felt like there was gonna be more to this relationship. Brad am I alone here I mean yeah I was wondering what kind of role he's GonNa play and why he was picking this person up but you as it goes on really it just seems just to set up the basically the the everyday life from someone like them into laureate and how he goes about getting his targets and then kind of thing. Yeah and we We get to see the VAC tube. I think it's called well. Yeah that's what he called it there. But it's been referred to as a refresher elsewhere in star wars. Yeah so We saw that in rebels or clone. Wars something it was. Rebels Wedge Antilles in an episode where chopper goes Chopper is hacked by Josh Gad. And not a character played by Josh Gad but just get just get no Josh Gad. Well he's the character's name is the controller. Yeah so he doesn't really. We have a name. But Josh Gad takes control of chopper and wedge needs to use the restroom and the droid the Marvin Marvin Marvin. The sad robot sort of droid comes in and interrupts wedge at the Refresher. That was way more detail about a bathroom and star wars than you needed so your yeah okay so he goes to meet Carl weathers character Greek freak our guy yet and actually in this in this Cantina Tina or restaurant. Whatever it is We see someone that looks like it could be constable zoo in the corner. Is that constables view. I would doubt it's council but it did look like accuse oh which is The species and they had a similar helmet. Interesting thing about that species. These were named after the Master swordsman character in Samurai. Oh I did not know that when she got me here for okay so they Car Weather's offers him imperial credits bureau. Credits do not what they used to be. He gets Calamari money instead and whether it's basically offer them this job that is off books that You know doesn't have a park. And Its high paying bounty We see the mandatory go through the marketplace we see some showers and some star wars stuff knocks on the door. And there's this I- droid thing thing that comes out that that's like the same thing that was in his palace I think he has the same dialogue. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same recordings either yet so so he goes in there and instantly we see that. There's some stormtroopers so I'm what they're guarding droid. Though there's a contract tried yes I love the gun trade. Well although the does look like it's been upgraded admit because it seemed like it had like a transparent like shell on its head instead of the usual. Just box droid style could call. Yeah I did notice that But the next thing we see is a bunch of stormtroopers garden Werner Herzog Character My question to you Brad. Are these storms. Are these storm troopers that have been you know the remnants of the empire collapsing or are these like guards that have just salvage Elvis. You know sor per gear. That's a good question I'd be willing to bet that they are probably real stormtroopers. Who in the fall of the empire? There are just trying to find whatever jobs they can doing. Protection for people becoming bodyguards or anything But it could stand the reason that they're also people who have salvage stormtrooper armor. I hadn't thought of that initially thought that they were just stormtroopers misplaced doing anything. They can to survive. I mean the armor is pretty like worn warn. beat up Does could this mean that Werner Herzog has ties to the empire. I willing to bet that more. So he's he's just hired these people as hired guns for as his bodyguards. He seems like the kind of person who maybe does that. But he does have that medallion. That has the the Galactic Empire sure The imperial symbol on it. So you know it's and he does appear to be at least working with somebody who may have ties to the empire. Yeah like at that second. A guy named Dr pershing comes out and there's a little bit of a scuffle What do you make of the brain Dr per-share has a uniform that. That's vaguely similar in style to imperial science officers that we saw in rogue one and With with mad. Man's Mickelson's Nicholson's character. And I do think these are these are all people who if they're not. I mean there is no empire but there are people who were there. With the empire and Herzog's mysterious nameless character hands him a brick and steel stamped with an imperial logo in it that was from. I'm the what they refer to as the great purge and by the way that seems like so remnant of like the Nazis stamping goes in in gold bars. Such such cool touch. It brings a lot of that in particular brings a lot of really high emotion. If you remember all the stuff with the mantle orientation in rebels and how they were treated and subjugated and almost killed in a genocide by the empire and the Mandalay had a really rough over the last twenty five years in galactic history. Let's talk about best car still for a second like why is best card steel so important. Well it can deflect blaster bolts and best guards steel armor according to Sabine ran and rebels every bit it was designed to Combat Jedi. Right like every bit of Amanda Laurean Armor was something that they came up with culturally when they were doing their expansive conquests tests the galaxy to combat. The jet is specifically. They were the only people who were foresee who worked for US users. That would stand toe to toe with. The jet is so that it's something that both has a cultural significance because they passed that armor down from generation to generation Sabin's best our steel armor. She was able to melted down and reshape it but she talks about how it's five hundred years old and has the the scars and ghosts of battle from it From from all of those people who owned it before her in it and So it's it's culturally significant and it's significant in the sense of the galaxy. See where it can stop a blaster bolt with no problem and a lightsaber with For for at least a minute at least a minute I- I'm just here to point out the bad ass lines. Stormtrooper say that we have you four to one and maybe Laurean says I like those odds just such will Star Wars Line Brad what did you think of Werner Herzog and in the show I love Werner Herzog in this show so much every single line he says sound so intimidating mid eating and you're just hanging on every single word. His voice is just incredible and this is like the perfect part for him to play. I I love it so much and I'm sure Dr Dr Dr pershing's GonNa come back into play after we find out what the bounty actually is at the end of this episode. But let's get that So we're in the streets again. We see Quirky monkey was being roasted while another is watching on Midler an interesting underground weyer for Mendel. Orients what is this this place. What do we think? I think this is some sort of outpost of of exiled mandatory. We heard about something like the great purge unfortunately where the cannon has left us as far as the man delorean's have been concerned is the empire had taken over and basically sort of In a in a World War One World War Two sort of situation they were taken over by a guy named Garcia Jackson who was sort of like their equivalent of pay Tan when he took over and was operating the French government the vichy government for the Nazis and so he was basically an imperial stooge Gar Saxon character and he didn't get dealt with until just before the offensive rogue one on the show rebels and then at that point they restored power at least culturally to Katie sack offs character Boca Tan. But but that was the last thing we saw that they were still struggling from overcoming the empire. We haven't seen anything about them in the Canon so far Since then so so this could be some exiled group. That still hasn't been able to come back because of the war or maybe something worse happened to mand lower We just don't know I liked it. There's other mandatory in the show for some reason. Show called the mandatory. I you it's going to be the only one that would be for a while so it's very A Woman Mendel Laurean. Who has like a helmet met at a looks like a golden medal will and has horns and cheese using the steel to create a shoulder pad for the Memoria Who is this? Do we know anything about her. The only thing we know about her is that her name She's played by an actress named Emily. Swallow the only guests. I can make aside from the fact that she sort of a mandatory and blacksmith. Is that the only other character. We've seen with horns on their helmet was Gar Saxon and that was when he was is working for mall when mall was nominally in charge of manslaughter. So in the candidates that's really the only other time we've seen horns like that on a mando window helmet and I don't know if that's going to tie back to mall or tie back to guard Saxons group of Mando's and that was something that was interesting. I ah I haven't heard the term signet that she uses. Yeah was going to ask you that because she asked him. It has been revealed. Like what what do you. What do you think that means? I think I think that means something like that would lead him to know who his house or his clan is and Because he he's what they call a foundling soundlink orphan and I think that The the revelation of that is probably going to factor in the show significantly. And maybe tie back to some of these other issues of the man does but But Yeah I think that that's what that cigarette is meant to imply. We also hear that the like the leftover best car steel will go to the foundling Z- Some wondering like Brad. What do you make of this like like are all the men delorean Laurean like orphans? Like what is like what is this It doesn't sound like they. All are because Mando kind of goes out of his way. Hey you know to say that to mention the fact that he was a foundling and he let you know Helping you in any way they can but it does seem like that Maybe manned Lawrence have become become kind of a place where orphans can can possibly go to me. You know make it easier to survive or or something like that like the maybe they almost almost like an orphanage teaches them how to take care of themselves. Do you think over this series. We're going to see the LAUREAN slowly build up his armor into all oh best guards steal. I thought that's what this implied. Yeah Yeah I mean. Depending on how this job goes to. They could turn out to be a lot easier. Supposed to get a whole container shipment of it right. I I have a feeling Brad. He's not GonNa get that container of steel but we'll see gases gases. Yes that's GONNA go south okay. So he flies to this mountainous desert planet Some alien creatures attack. They're called BLURBS. I have we seen them before Brian. We have so blurbs were mounts used by champs and Dula and a free ride off movement on Rilot I feel like a giant it nerd right part of Star Wars came in from. That's from rebels. Okay so we've seen them in rebels. I don't don't think this planet is rilot however but I really really really loved the look how it looked like it was a cracked sort of salt. Bed Zoomed up the thousand times that they were running across it was so cool looking. I really love this battle between him and the creature is like the creatures. Look this this show looks so big budget. It looked so like creatures. Look better than anything I've seen on television show I I don't know so if if they did part of it practical and then just use. CG to kind of like a touch it up a little bit but they. They were shots when they looked like they were real real practical creatures that maybe there was somebody like inside something controlling them. I want to see a behind the scenes of this Okay Moving on played by Nick Nolte Basically comes to the save he tracks them and It it's it's funny scene after all that make up And he basically says he's got to help them because he has never met a amend learned before for In he trained him how to ride He. He needs to ride a not to get to where he needs to go. I mean not able to work he. I need to get where he needs to go. So he's trading and notice a totally. That'd be fun and so he teaches them the Ride the Bloomberg. And it's kind of like there's this musical score the almost feels like a rocky movie but setting the Star Wars universe really digging it and and There's a a quick mention here when the minimum or does it like is like fuck this. I'm not going to ride a Bloomberg where he's like. Your ancestors rolled road the great myth or you could write a bird so that is the kind of awesome drop of Star Wars Canon. The I love from Dave Loney What is a myth? Or so you know the The skull emblem that everyone associates with with Boba. Fett that was in the original sort of can enter the expanded Universe Canon known as a myth or and that was a myth or skull during the legends reboot that was sort of erased knowing quite knew what they were called and no one sort of acknowledged that they might be Mitha Soars but they were beasts on mandal the Laura that the man delorean's at tamed and Getting them back in Canada. I think made a lot of people will will make a lot of people. Happy Because we haven't had a name for it and we. We weren't sure what to call it because there hasn't been any cannon reference and This is just a good thing. Okay so we're explained. There's there'll be no peace on this planet until these people that have occupied the space or gone So basically squeaky he he. He's helping him. He's helping the mandatory and get there because he wants to get rid of these people in the Middle Aaron shows up he also finds that I g eleven also shows up at the same time. This is the care so before before we get to that real quick though I wanna say the character was something something that almost took me out of it a little bit because and I'm on the fence about it still because because I don't think that the mouth movement was very good on and granted I think that that's probably intentional as a throwback to how the looked in the empire strikes back it just felt kind of Hokey to me sometimes when the character would talk and the mouth didn't quite work well with what the lines being sent and I also don't think that's Nick Nolte in that makeup I think he's just doing the voice. Yeah he's just doing the voice that's not. There was a different performer. I didn't know that he's much shorter. The Nick Nolte Yeah. He's much he's much shorter than everybody. Yeah that'd be g or something that I mean I. I'm pretty sure that was practical. At least because I it was kind of cookie in in that way and so I don't know I'm on the fence about it because I kind of liked the idea of them keeping it a little bit looking a little bit bad. I guess you could say because. Is it supposed to have that same field the original trilogy but it did feel awed at times with some of the lines that he was saying. No I agree okay. I G eleven shows up at the base base. He's also taking on this bounty. I G eleven is another bounty hundreds of droid bounty. Hunter voiced by Tako A.. T. WHO DRINKS WCHS a couple of episodes of the upcoming season and I will say this. We knew that he was going to be in this. We've seen footage and we knew that Taika Waititi was going to voice him and it was. I was expecting it to be more Taika like as I've seen in his previous movie. T- typically features features into his movies and. This was a little bit less than I was expecting. Brad I am I wrong No I kind of felt all the same with you. I was expecting it to have a little bit more Personality in that kind of liveliness. That takes care usually have but I think it's good that they probably wouldn't against those expectations speculations because it almost makes eleven funnier than maybe otherwise would have been you know I think if just a wisecracking bounty hunter droid then Dan. It would've been like Oh. Yeah that's that's funny. That's what we wanted to expect. But in this case he's he acts more like a robotic droid and the way he talks and the way he approaches is the mission and speaks with more of the like old school Scifi. Things What she's talking about affirmative agreeing things in a very practical protocol kind of way and especially once he starts choosing whether or not? He's going to self destruct like five or six times throughout this battle. That's that's hilarious. Yeah no I thought that. How is funny They agree to team up and split. The bounty. You know keeps on deciding if he's going to self destruct They're battling against these these people which I didn't know who they were but I had my subtitles on and the subtitles told us that they are nick. TWOS and Nikko. They are in the They were there sort of a race. That's been enslaved a lot. We've seen Djeddai. I think we're Nikko. One notable one was again a tighter. Rilot then I'm not sure how how How much that actually connects but The JEDI master. I'M GONNA die. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Gun D. or something like that but it was basically. I'm going to die He he served at the battle of Rye law in the clone wars and then the nicktator were enslaved in his palace and in the novel bloodline One with them Rin Riven D. which was a a a an underworld sort of mob boss? He was the one who and let Princess Laya know that she was a general or senator or Ghana at that point that she was revered among NATO people as hut slayer because his recordings of her choking Java had spread amongst their people. Okay so eventually. Mando gets the Gatling gun which has fun sequence of him taking out the nick to And they shoot their way through the door The sense L. I.. Form it's in the SMALLPO- they open the pod and it is a baby even though they were told they were after someone that was fifty years old I g he Levin speculates that Species age differently. Perhaps it could live many centuries as we know. This is A baby EP. Of the same species that iota is. We don't actually know the name of that species but would you know Yoda died. He was over nine hundred years old. So you they live a very long time and It's interesting here because this is one of the first rumors I had ever heard about. The middle are in like a year ago. I heard this was a story. Yeah about a bounty hunter. Who Goes in search for bounty and finds out that it's a child and decides not to return the bounty but I did not know it was a iota a creature it should also be noted that Making Star Wars reported. A I think a couple of weeks back that George. Lucas contributed to the Mandal Orient by providing some details on Yoda's species including a name in George. Lucas has always been kind of very cagey on giving any details on your other species. I even though like some people think there There is a species in the prequels. Called the Winnick's I think and some people. I thought that that was your two species. That is incorrect So what do we know here. What do we know about yet? Species The only thing we know about the species is that until this point there were two of them There was iota and also served on the council and That actually is what is the most interesting thing about this. If this is still a babe arms in a bassinet then and it's fifty years old that could could date this back to the point where this could be a force sensitive child who had been brought up in a nursery like we'd seen in the second first. Since second season now I think the second season of the clone wars and palpitation was after the jet are young wings that this could be some hold over from that because palpitation was interested in stealing those babies if this is some imperial plot to raise maybe another inquisitor or something like that that would be it really interesting and there's a lot of storytelling potential. They're just given the age of the of the infant. Yeah I'm wondering. If the species species is inherently very highly forced sensitive if they have a high Medicare and count Brad what are your thoughts. th this is the most intriguing. I think parts of me because I was like very surprised about when they showed the same because not only does it look cute but it's just like oh my gosh like what is this What is GONNA mean like? Why do they want this thing? You know what what what are they hope to do with it. You know the empire that wants it Yeah there's so many possibilities here as to where where this could could go and I'm I'm very excited to see like the direction the show heads with that kind of ending. Yeah it's very intriguing. We did mention on this podcast before that they refuse to show this whole episode the critics because they said there was a big spoiler that they I didn't want out. There were guessing. This is the spoiler but this doesn't really I don't think it's ties in a major way yet to the larger star wars Ah Cannon Some people are speculating. Could this young you could could this person be like iota son her daughter or even clone or I've not seen that speculation but yeah I think it's interesting simply because yeah it's weird because I I don't know why they made us hide it. Or why the hell screeners. Because it's a detail that we wouldn't have spoiled anyway because it's a cool reveal and if the very end of the episode you know so so the fact that they're holding back I don't know obviously has something big to do with the rest of the series but since we don't know what's happening there's really nothing that would would have been ruined by getting the screeners seniors out early. I agree but I think that there's some other elements to that they wanted to obscure. I think the having other man delorean's on the show is something they wanted to keep the something they did. Keep secret and all of the marketing and that could have been much one of the story points they were trying to avoid it because it seems like they were billing. The man delorean as this lone wolf. Who Works for himself and is capable of anything but then when you see the episode it seems seems pretty clear? He's handling all of his money back to the people of his culture which is a very different character than I think they were trying to sell in the marketing. So so where do we think this is GonNa go from here. So he finds this young child He's obviously not gonNA bring him back and get that best our steel I feel like he he feels you know. He's not a robot underneath that armor. He's a he has a heart So and and as an orphan is a fellow orphan I think he's got a lot of Feelings tied up in that. So where where do where do you guys think. This is going to take us lone wolf and cub man seriously. I mean all all the Great Star Wars movies in stories have been inspired by You know stuff like that. So th I mean you've you've made almost a career about writing about that kind of stuff so that makes complete sense well and it makes sense to So at the at that press event I got to do a roundtable with prone Bologna and the first thing I asked about was though cinematic connections and I I said you know. I'm picking up a lot of Kurasawa you Jimbo Leoni with a fistful of dollars and even some lone wolf and cub. And how was it. Matching the technology to those things and felonious and father or just sort of shared a look and then he he proceeded to steamroll over the specifics of the inspiration shank gave me a really general answer Of wish now in retrospect was like Oh my God actually hit upon something they were not prepared appeared in any way to talk about. Oh Yeah I think for sure Bread where do you think this is GonNa take us. Yeah I mean it's that's the the the best you know. I guess we have have really is that. It's very clearly that vibe You know the the works of you know curious. I'll have been influential on star wars since the inception of it with George Lucas. And so I think that Fabbro and feloniously Oh they definitely tapped into that and they wanted to push that even further and and tell a different kind of story in Star Wars even if it does feel familiar simply because of how much influence you know. Lone Wolf is cup has will. Wolf and cub has had I think there's probably still surprises in store. When I doubt it will follow that kind of story in the exact same way but that influence there is clearly clearly something that that will shape the rest of the series? We'll get at least an episode of that vibe. Yeah and by the way I I feel like they the Disney was in the right for not screening this episode for critics who were doing interviews because the interviews would all be about this Yoda creature in the Mendel were in you know hideout I don't understand why they're not giving critics a screener the day of and being like there's an embargo for midnight tonight or something like wouldn't wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if we'll get screeners for future episodes I think And and they did release screeners for this for for the press This morning so yeah but that was like like nine hours after it was available for everybody. Yeah the other thing. We gotTA talk about here. Is You know I g eleven was a big part of the marketing campaign like you can actually buy t shirts that just have I g eleven on it. In in this final moment of this episode Chapter One the men Laurean shoots. Iga Eleven Because I eleven what's going to kill the baby or or the fifty year old Young going So does that mean that. This is the end of TYCO's character in the show. I do wonder if he can be brought back you. Yeah may maybe that they they keep You know idea Levin's memory or something in a a data bank and he can be uploaded to any droid body and come back back. I think that'd be kind of cool. Actually if we keep getting Different versions of ideas or even just different I g droids happened to have his voice I think that gives something. That's interesting if Mandolin keeps encountering different versions of that but yeah it would be kind of weird if they use them and have all these action figures and stuff like that and they just kill off in the first deposition gentlemen. Might I remind you darth Maul. Yeah hours of of of content. This is forty minutes but by the way we should talk about that. I am shocked that this episode was like forty minutes long usually like nowadays. I feel like you know. Your game of thrones is like like fifty five minutes to an hour like do we think all the episodes are going to be this short. I I don't know I think Disney plus is going to let them tell tell the stories and the length of time that they have and I feel like that's something may talked about at the press conference we were at is that like they were able to fit it. The the length to the story without having to cut for commercial breaks and and stress out about things. And I think we're going to see that more and more generally streaming is the way we're going to see these shows at first that they're going to do the story they're going to cut it right even though the scripts might be the same amount of pages the The minute the run time is going to fluctuate. I know we're going long Brian. Do you have a few more minutes to talk with us. Yeah Yeah Okay I want to talk about the framing because this this episode begins with a New Star Wars brand opening. This looks kind of like how Marvel- opens with the Marvel studios like intro. The seems like a new thing probably won't see an episode nine. I'm assuming but we might see it on future star wars movies and shows and this shows us helmets shows US meter since. BB eight three three Po. Kylo are to an expert helmet stormtrooper new old new and then the Mendel Laurean fat helmet. What do you? What do you guys think about this? I love that star. Wars is finally getting kind of like a brand logo. Kinda like The Marvel Franchise has but I'm not sure helmets in like the colors of light. sabers reflecting often is the way to go. I mean if something they needed to come up with some branding and Who knows how long this lasts? I wasn't necessarily put off by it but I I was more excited to watch the mandatory and then I was to critique the opening logo. Yeah Brad any thoughts on the opening. Yeah I mean it's it's fine. I don't really know what else you would do to make it that much cooler. Short throughout the franchise history kind of like marvel dozen away. Ah directly copy that either But like yeah. I don't know I I feel like the Lucasville logo itself is enough you know and and like whenever anyone sees the Lucas logo show up before somebody like. Oh we're about to get something star wars or something that I don't care about The other thing I wanted to talk about is the end credits because credits have this. Like amazing. Bit of concept are from the episode. I hope I hope. They have new concept support for each end credit scene because it was so beautiful. Yeah no I really loved that. And it really highlighted The the Goeransson score which it I mean like I was going to sit there and just sort of enjoy the score no matter what but having that really cool concept art was Red and speaking score really quickly like I really love how it felt. Yeah there those moments of rocky but it felt like Goeransson was like was told. Give me give me. What would it what it would sound like if any oh Moriconi had been tasked with filling a galaxy far far away but with more electric instruments than just his normal Orchestra for sure I that score and I've Seen A. That's the other bit of criticism AC- online some people are turned off. It turned off by the score a little bit because I feel like it's so far away from John Williams in the traditional star wars score. What do you think bread? No I love the score and I actually think that lines right in with the spirit of the series at least from the first episode. Is that if something that feels like star wars but also starting to branch out got into its own thing and there are themes here that are remnant of star wars and your Kestrel arrangements that John Williams And Michael J. Aquino have have composed but what I liked that he's introduced. You know some tribal elements with regards to walk mandatory in scenes. And also that little extra kind of tack electronic touch that it makes it feel other-worldly and gives a sense that you know we're not in the same you know sect of the Star Wars Universe that we're we're used to playing in. Yeah and and because I was GONNA say if people dig this Kevin Costner. Who did the score for the scores for clone wars rebels Did a lot of work in that that that hinted at things like this and think Gore has sort of taken that ball and run with it. But that was definitely something that George had insisted on and felonious talked about how when George was working on those he said we need to bring this other worldly these other cultures and that those sorts of musical musical influences into Star Wars Baloney Comment that I think it was at that press conference that this is finally what he understood. Really what George meant when when they started putting in Goeransson scored two two Mandal Orient. Yeah it's been tasking and Lastly I I think if we're GONNA get all nerdy on this. We should acknowledge that there is no opening crawl for. I know that they've abandoned those for the Star Wars story movies. But we're not getting that here. They have been on the comic books in the Video Games Does that mean going forward. We're just going to abandon the opening crawl. I think it's going to be up to the filmmakers and the storytellers rate with Gareth Edwards. He talked a lot about how they debated back and forth about what would be best for the movie for Rogue One and I think it would really come down to if filmmaker feels that. It's right I feel like it would have been perfect for this show. That like. You're watching week to week and and in future episodes could easily be reminded of like you know where the story left off If feels like perfect for show I I understand and for the movies I I understand. You know giving the filmmakers the rain to choose if it's right for that story but I'm a little I. I miss the opening crawl. I feel like open part of Star Wars for me. I think that it's in this case. It's probably just too redundant you know because you're already watching week to week and people are keeping up on what's happening and there's not probably not going to be much time passage between episodes so there aren't a lot of gaps to fill and I think to use a scroll as like a recap APP like last week on the Mando Laurean just doesn't seem necessary and plus on top of that. The opening crawl itself takes like what like two to three minutes or something to do. You know so. I was only forty minutes for ads so they could've added some time on here but yeah I. I think that the week to week show. I don't think that it's necessary ready to do it. Okay that brings us to the end of today's podcast. I want to thank both of you for joining us Brian IF PEOPLE WANNA find more of your work They can they can indefinitely. Read the Mandolin piece that we have on the site today. I'll lincoln the nuts but where can people find it Right now I do a weekly roundup of stores news as for the sci-fi Channel And I'm doing I I'm reviewing all the episodes for for you all on film and You can find me at the full of six podcast or you can find me on twitter at Swank Mo Tron. Which I will I will talk to you about Star Wars? They're pretty much guaranteed Brad. Where can people find your work? Always on's last film Dot Com. You can also find me on twitter at Ethan Underscore Anderson and also so listen to my podcast called go flicks yourself F. L. I. X. available on I tunes another pod casting platforms and I'm curious what you guys think I know. 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The Larry Elder Show 08-17-21 Hr 1 TUEa

The Larry Elder Show

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The Larry Elder Show 08-17-21 Hr 1 TUEa

"Is podcast is a production of the salem podcast network for more podcast like this from courageous voices of conservative reason visit salem podcast network dot com. Carl thinker from florida is in college. Jackson is the reason that i was born. It's larryelder joe. With special guest. Carl jackson if not who crowd is your special guest host proud jacksonville in for the great elderski. The number to call in triple eight nine seven one. Seven two four three. That's triple eight nine seven one seven two four three. Of course there's plenty of news us. We're still dealing with the debacle bite into bockel in afghanistan. We'll get to that actually in a second hour. Our guest james of the heritage foundation will be joining us again in the second hour. So if you have any questions it may be a good time to Call in a triple eight nine. Seven one seven two four three three relief factor dot com studio our three. How dictators to power. I'm gonna give you seven steps of how they come to power. The left is really good with using psychology when it comes to getting what they want and i wanna speak to you about that and and you guys if you listened to me on filling in for larry elder you've heard me talk about this type of stuff before and strategies that you can take but it just wants you to understand what the left is doing. We're not dealing again Like i've said many times we're not dealing with. Your grandmothers are your grandfather's. Mammy and daddy's democrat party. They don't exist anymore. We're dealing with left wing radicals we're dealing with people that are that want to be socialists and in many cases some that want to be outright communist and we don't have leadership in washington dc. Joe biden is a complete and utter disaster whether we're talking about the economy whether we're talking about national security whether we're talking about. Kobe mitigation the guys that complete and utter disaster. And i know many of you voted for him because you Dislike trump and and listen. I can understand that but hopefully I would disagree with you but hopefully you can see that. This guy is an unmitigated disaster. He needs to be removed. Senator rick scott is floating the idea the twenty fifth amendment. Actually i think fifty senators fifty republican senators should be floating the idea of the twenty-fifth amendment but having said that i like to. I like to take you to a place called long beach california. I like to take you back to my days as some would say. But i want to say this. Keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eye on the prize. The leftist constantly bombarding us whether it's by messaging or whether it's the control that they're to impose an us via cova mitigations all i can say. Keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eye on the prize. Let me tell you what i mean. By that years ago. I used to play a lot of basketball. Used to play a lot of sports period basketball football baseball. You name it absolutely love sports. Grow to You know grew up watching sports playing sports. Not a lotta organiz fourth believe it or not Except for basketball but As far as football and baseball honestly i would just play with my boys in the hood if you will in all of us get really good because we played literally almost daily You know after school. Get our homework done and then go run up the street Play at the school playground. You know whatever it was in. Some of them were involved in organized sports so everybody would kind of get better which is real. It was real cool. All of us get better at sports and just hung out and kind of Learn how to stay safe in the streets together. It was when i think back on it. It was even though i wasn't the safest areas all the time it was cool to have so many boys that you knew hatch. You're back but one other things that was really cool. I also get away on the weekends and we would attend this church. It was the long beach congregation of the worldwide church. God and and they had this this thing with the youth and sports in the cool thing about it was you got to play sports with different people in different areas of california And i was obviously. I was in long beach actually. I didn't limit long beach at the time. I attended the long beach church and we when we played basketball. We were the long beach. Lions and there was always a rivalry with this church guarding grove. Church and i had some really good friends at the garden. grove church and it was always just good. I mean it was always a battle when we played those guys. There were other guys. There were other teams. The san diego team was escondido team and there there were other teams. I can't quite remember right now. To be honest with you but ultimately what would happen is we would always end up in the championship game every year against these guard and grow guys in the garden. Grove guys they were. They had a lot of guys. That played organized basketball. Including my buddy my boy. He's like my brother My my my mexican hombre Mark ortiz call him. He was like the mexican steph. Curry do shoot like nobody's business. So he was one of their top players. there was this other guy teddy. That was just big. And i mean. Just just don't get on people all that kind of stuff you know and then on my team. We were a bunch of misfits You know literally. We have some nerds on team. We have some gangsters on the team. We had some weiss that we're really good at a basketball that that played organized basketball basketball boy bryan young back in the day. Just really really good really talented. And it was kind of neat. When i think back on it. I look back on it and i was like you know what kind of like e. pluribus unum if you will from many one because we came together all these different backgrounds we came together was gangsters like i said it was nerds. There were normal kids. There were white right preppy kids and we all lived in different neighborhoods. We all attended different schools. But when we get on that court we one single team and it was one of the coolest feelings ever. And i loved going to play those sports and i love getting away because oftentimes i will get away from the troubles that bothered me at home and that just felt like a relief and it was so amazing that was so thankful for the opportunity. It wasn't like playing You know Ball on the streets though it was fun it was. it just wasn't like plan ball on the streets. it was just organize. It was cool. The the the the fans cheering the uniforms. I do have to say something about the uniform. You know back in the day. This was like the early nineties and we wore shorts. Today i mean back. Then i mean can you say daisy duke. So i wouldn't recommend that But but beyond that it was like a crate. A great experience. But what's best about all of that or what humor. What what what. What i can recollect is what i'm trying to say is how we came together. And how ultimately. We ended up winning a championship from team. We can never win it from so. Let me give you a little background. This garden grove team would beat us year in and year out every single year. They would beat us year in and year out because they had they just had better players all around. They meshed together better. They lived You know they could practice more together in in like i said. They played more organized. More of them. That played organized basketball. And although we were good a lot of us played street ball and stuff like that. We had a few played organized basketball. But it really was a challenge for all of us to mesh well but eventually and over time we mesh well and there was a coach. There were two coaches one. Jerry hackman one. Pete negri and i remember because i would think oh man. They took over for another coach. I can't even remember who the other coach was. And then they came in and they started implementing all of these new things but the new things were old things. The new things were the basics. The new things were the fundamentals. It was defense. It was blocking out. It was attacking the boards. It was driving to the baseline it was looking for your open man and we didn't buy intuitive for this was new to us. We were used to plant street bar. We're used to just taking the ball. One man taking the ball just drive into the whole one man taking the ball and just shoot they one man trying to show off and front of the others and we can never seem to win a championship but one year. The coach convinced us if you do. Abc and you will win if you box out if you block this guy if you if you kraut the boards if you play my zone defense if you pop out at the shooter if you block this guy out and lo and behold. We had been losing to these guys in the championship year after year after year after year but these white coaches. They came in with their new system that we didn't want to listen to at. I had a severe impact on us and they didn't do anything crazy. They didn't tell us to do anything out of the box. They didn't tell us to become magic. Johnson or michael jordan. They told us to go back to the basics. And i'll tell you why that's relevant after the break carl jackson will be back on the larry elder show. Larry elder here again with a message for anyone struggling with pain. Like i struggled with for years and of course i want you to know about relief. Factor the one hundred percent. Drug-free supplement that tens of thousands of now taking every day. Obviously i'm taking it every day. Because i like being out of pain but i know you may be skeptical just like i was but then i kept hearing about all the people who are no longer in pain so i decided to give it a try in fact. Listen to genesis story. How skeptical at first but because of the pain that i was having when i would substitute teach and have to climb stairs i have lower back hip and even knee pain and after about three weeks i found that i could climb stairs pain-free but it wasn't only pain-free i could do it step over step without holding on the railing. I'm really happy it. It makes me feel like i'm young again. That's relieffactor dot com or call. Eight hundred five hundred eighty three eighty four eight hundred five hundred eighty three eighty four. Where's the sage he saving california and now here's special. Guest carl jackson on the larry elder show. I let me tell you about food for the poor tropical depression. Grace is drenching haiti at this hour. Just three days. After the seven point two magnitude earthquake that caused over eighty four thousand homes to collapse. The situation on the ground really could not be worse as we hear in this report. Courtesy of nbc news the massive quake flapping buildings across haiti triggering landslides that cut off access. Some smaller communities families lost. Their homes are now sleeping on nearby soccer fields and now tropical storm grace's forecast to hit haiti bringing punishing rain. That could lead the flash flooding and do mudslides yet. Another blow to a country in crisis. And that's why i've posted a new help. Haiti banner at larryelder dot com. Please just click on the help. Haiti banner to join my other listeners. 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You guys have already been a blessing but we have an opportunity to step up and be an even even bigger blessing. So thank you. Okay so let me just returned to this story. And i promise you i'm going to make this relevant because i've been sitting here. Obviously we're all looking at the afghan situation in just the total to bockel. We're looking at the open borders. Even though msnbc and cnn aren't paying attention to him and try to ignore those particular stories. For some reason they're all fixated on afghanistan. I'm a. I'm i'm curious to ask a james carefu- know why that is At the at the top of the next hour. So that'll be really interesting. Make sure you stay tuned for that but it came to me and even out get caught up in this. Sometimes it's so frustrating. When we see our country and i believe intentionally and tension lee being destroyed by the by the administration and left within his administration whether susan rice. Whether it's ron clain whomever is pulling the puppet strings behind the scenes. I have i i have no idea. I have no idea but regardless i started thinking you know what the answer to saving this country is the constitution. That's never changed. That's never changed. So as i go back to long beach i go back to this championship. Game remember these coaches constantly drilling on the basics. They would make us to layup drills we would have to do so many layoffs. It was unbelievable. They would make us do free throw drills they would make us run up and down the court and do suicides more than we had ever done they would make a stand up against the war and i forget what it's called literally you have to Put get down in a in a seated position a squat. Thank you Just lean against the wall until your legs burned like heck we would have to do drills moving side to side to side for defense still learning to stay in front of the ball learning to cut off people and they just drilled that into us. They drilled that into us the pay six. Hey crashed the board. Hey box out constantly. The basics the basics the basics all the fancy stuff people wanting to be magic. Johnson people wanting to be michael jordan. All of that stuff. We still had element of that. Because you know asam brothers on the On the team like to be a little flashy sometimes but but overwhelmingly. We stuck to the basics. And you know what happened when we stuck to the basics after years and years and years of losing to that guarding road team. I'm sure if my boy marketeers listening he's still crying right now. But after years and years and years we finally one and it's because we went back to the basics. Are we going to save this united states of america. We're going to save this united states of america back to the basics. I've been thinking and i've been. I've often said that this is a we live in a post constitutional america and and it's true and we live in a post. I would say judeo christian america but it doesn't mean that those aren't the answers they were the answers before and they're still the answers now when you consider when when when you consider how far away we've gone from our constitution. How far we've walked away from our judeo christian value system you can see. This is what we get. This is the type of country that we get. the left isn't doing anything new. There answers always socialism their answers always communism. their answer is always division. Their answer is always more power but the reason why the united states of america is exceptional is because we have the constitution because we had founders that believed in judeo christian values system so in order to the country. We just have to go back to the constitution. We just have to go back to the basics amendment one congress you'll make no law respecting an establishment of religion. I would say the establishment of religion that the left is trying to impose on us is woke kness whether that's social justice warrior ism whether it's critical race theory. It's like a colt critical race theory. Officially named crp crap. On the larry elder show hat tip. China gave that to me. I gotta give him props. I was so congress will make no law respecting an establishment of religion. And we have these people in congress that are trying to impose critical race theory on all of us or prohibiting the free exercise thereof so people that have a judeo-christian mindset. They're trying to they're trying to censor people. That don't necessarily believe what they believe whether it's people like me whether it's christians like meet whether it's conservatives like me whether it's jews like dennis prager ben shapiro they're trying to censor us. Free speech is extremely important. How can we express our views. How can we persuade others. How can we connect with others. All we have to go back to the basics. We don't have to do anything. Fancy we just have to go back to the basics if we go back to the basics if we understand the pace if we understand the constitution if we understand our judeo christian heritage we will ultimately win this fight. There's no better place in the world to go. The united states of america is the best country. God has ever given man bar none bar. None afghanis catty taste. They didn't even get a taste of america. They got a taste of american troops and they were willing some of them to jump on an airplane and hang on to an airplane in the hopes of returning with americans. They just got a taste of america cans. They didn't get a taste of america. That's how great this nation is. It's not that we're better. We're not better people. But it's an exceptional nation because we have a constitution that skirted and judeo christian values guys. Let's go back to the basics if we go back to the basics will win. Stay tuned for more with guest host. Carl jackson on the larry elder show. The tunnel to towers foundation helps us keep our commitment to never forget larry elder here this year the foundation is honoring gold star and fallen first responder families with young children and catastrophically injured veterans and first responders with two hundred mortgage free homes chairman and ceo. 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The biden administration wants us to be distracted from the fact that they are in a failure. So they'll try to focus on things like january six. they'll try to focus their attention to trump. they literally blamed trump. despite the fact that biden is supposedly the commander in chief. They literally tried to blame trump for what's happening the debacle in afghanistan. It's it's unreal it's unreal. The man hasn't been in office for seven months. But somehow it's his fault. Somehow i guess joe biden forgot that. He's the commander in chief and he's he has the power. He has the authority to make decisions from that position. Just like he decided to destroy jobs on the xl pipeline by the way family member of mine was impacted by that. Thank you very much. Joe biden so just like he decided to do that. As president he could have easily decided to maintain order instability in afghanistan. Or come up with a better plan to evacuate. I'm not against leaving afghanistan. i just not against it. i am against and you've heard me say this. So this is nothing new. The way that had happened is a complete and utter disaster. So here's some breaking news. Biting of the binding administration is now telling americans that are trapped in afghanistan that it cannot guarantee their safety so the airport. greg. Abbott has cove it the media. I guarantee you will focus on that. The good news is there are therapeutics. As far as you know a greg. Avid is concern. My guess is they greg. Abbott will be fine but the media. I guarantee you will focus on this. Like no one's business. Meanwhile the administration is telling americans that are trapped inside of a hellhole. That they can't guarantee that they can get out. This is the commander in chief. This is this is. This is unreal. Shamu you we you play for me audio clip Audio clip eight. I want you guys to hear this from this former navy. Seal eric to you as a navy. Seal you're ready for all contingency plans. They were not ready for this. We put five thousand two theater. Ed another thousand yesterday just to get our people out to the airport. Now we gotta get tens of thousands out with one airstrip. This is worse than saigon. Nineteen seventy five. You're absolutely right tours. Afghanistan in two thousand and three thousand nine and unfortunately the biden administration is redefining. The word incompetence. You've got secretary of lincoln secretary austin. They need to continue their resignations right now. They're chairman at joint staff mile. He needs to go peel potatoes in the galley for about a month and then resigned. All these these folks primary duty is to advise the president of the united states diplomatic and military matters. Abjectly failed that the national security architecture. The united states of america is clearly broken right now. This is playing out in real time so people can't pretend like this isn't happening this. We truly understand now that the emperor has no clothes as a matter of fact. We don't even know if he's wearing clothes right now because he's disappeared from the public. So this so this is my question and this was the question that i posed see you last night. If he can't handle something this simple. Can he really fix the economy as he says all is he really going to be able to mitigate the wuhan virus as he claims. This guy is totally incompetent. This administration is totally incompetent. He's not the only recall. What secretary blinken and cut seven recall. What secretary blinken said less than a week ago and Whatever happens in afghanistan if there is a significant deterioration insecurity That could well happen. We discussed this before. I don't think it's going to be something that happens from a friday to a monday So i wouldn't necessarily a quite the departure of our forces In july august or by early september with some kind of immediate deterioration in the in the situation. Ooh wops boy. Was he wrong. Wasn't he are only job. Our only missing in afghanistan at this point. And i gotta admit it. I'm not sure that any of us realize how significant that twenty five hundred troops were in afghanistan and the job. They were joined. Twenty five hundred troops to keep that region stabilized for the sole purpose of making sure that the taliban could not harbor terrorists in that region. So much for that so much for that danke joe biden. Thank you comma harris. She was a part of this too. I know she's hiding but she was a part of this disaster too. Don't you forget. It is carl jackson and for larryelder will be back in a few while the sages away enjoy. The larry elder show with special guests. Carl jackson free speech lives here on. The larry elder show with special guests. Carl jackson i welcome back to the larry elder show the number to call triple eight nine seven one. Seven two four three. We're coming to you. Live from the relief factor dot com studio. All right so we've been talking about joe biden. That is a disaster by the way the taliban is putting off a putting up soft base. They're they're propagandists. You gotta understand this. Meanwhile they're popping caps and people along side of the road. They shot a guy that was on top of the kabul airport. Offense fencing or barricade the these guys are stone cold killers. These guys are stone cold killers. I understand that we don't want to be there. We don't wanna fight forever but this is a complete another disaster. Don't you dare think for a second these people these people. The taliban harbored isis. You guys remember isis. They harbored isis. They trained people trained in that area. This is unbelievable. We had one mission there one mission there and don't try to blame the troops. Get into this with james cardinal. Don't try to blame the afghanis i. I've even heard a lot of conservatives donate. don't try to blame the afghanis. What the hell. What are they supposed to do when you abandon them and abandoned all the logistical support. You have given them. What are they supposed to do. It is a total incomplete. Utter lie that these people didn't put up a fight. Sixty nine thousand of them died. Sixty nine thousand. You know what that means. More of them died annually. Then did american troops there they were fighting for. There's maybe we spoil them. I completely get it. I'm not trying to argue that. We should be there but it is a complete and utter lie for joe biden to say that the afghani soldiers just tucked their tails and ran. I'm sure some of them did once they figured out. The joe biden was so weak once. They figured out that they didn't have a a a planes. Once they figured out that they didn't have communications You kno