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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

02:34 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"Emit the sentence afterwards which contradicts the proposition. Then that's really lean more than just a mistake. An honest mistake. I'd have to sigh as you read it. You'd think these are these are intentional. I'm here knife. Forgiveness for bruce pascoe. Now he's personal circumstances or whatever. But i can certainly say that. He purposefully lift stuff air because things that were relevant that was sawed boss saw i'd in the material he was reading. He would take the part that suited his argument and leave out the pot. The didn't sivvy's argument. And if what what if the he's an alternative view of maybe some of that which would be that. If you're quoting a set la who is unreliable who may be interested in taking some of that land anyway and is therefore i allow a visit lamont right something that says it's pretty impressive. What these average from people have done. But of course i still get to have the land because you know it's not that then i can forgive some a choice of quoting the. I did not sickened trying to pint. True history of indigenous people. You within cy. Oh well his given this other thing. Which i discount for these reasons but but it's not let honest. Well clearly us. He's not he's not going to be historical tastes like he's supposed to be. This is not meant to be a work of fiction so just fiction. If he's quoting something it's not meant to be a work of fiction. But it is indeed when you when you take bits and pieces and do i. Mitt relevant things that cy a contrary view. It's not being intellectually honest with the reader. It's like it's like these people who grab one line out of out of an anti covid lockdown report and completely out of context inci. That's the that's what the report says am. You didn't read the report. It says something else that short of situation. Yeah i k- and and i'm not..

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

04:38 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"To accept the sorts of things because it then cast doubt on things that might be legitimate. So that's one reason why i think. Yeah i. i'm with you. That against seems to me to be a bit of a out note. Throw the hall. Throw the baby out with the boss. Bathwater kind of approach though and i can understand that someone like andrew ball would tiktok's approach because now you've got one post in that we can point to and say. Look an aboriginal person physically climbs to be aboriginal. that was code out and therefore everything they sites wrong. But i don. I think a lot of outreach to everything else and the news you know even covid vaccine news in some some. It's a true some. it's a false. We have to sift it all went out. So if he's if he's sort of covid report of some sort and it was wrong about something you'd want that to be known like if whatever the issue might the blood blood clotting law infection rights or death. Rides metallica rights. Thing you'd be you'd be came to to for example. Identify ms truth but still be in five of a whole bunch of things but to be able to decide. We'll actually ends particular point. That's not right. Sure but on still in five only other thing to take that example. If we imagine we went back to something. Norman swan seeding march two thousand and twenty which was based on best evidence. We have time and turned out not to be true based on license evidence and we vincit moment trump. No-one sworn can't be trusted. Because of that one thing that he said via which was disproved then i think we give doing selves a big disservice because overall moments one has been very level right exactly but norman swung was acting on the advice of the time and he could say well. Here's the reports was getting an. He's hell i kind of this conclusion. Whereas the problem with pass cowie's a has clearly grabbed and created a fiction from things and he hasn't been honest in his in his use of explorers accounts and and his his research. He hasn't hey he could with him. We could say you went honest when you're looking at that intellectually. At least you not intellectually honest in the wii presented that material. We're now on the other hand believing the aboriginal experts that are coming out and saying we have evidence. That is different here. That also shows that aboriginal people have a rich culture. They have a lot of knowledge. They have an equal claim to the land right. Yeah yeah absolutely. So the positive about indigenous law and get they. What gets my thesis. Here is the way bruce pascoe. The experts can now disagree or agree to disagree or have different different opinions but what. It's don is changed the narrative in public to to really introduce a much logic awareness of the the an acceptance of the fact that aboriginal people had this lodge reach tradition. What format tixx. We're gonna have a big argument between breeze pesco warm hand trying to side but tiki resources and other people's a. particular sources. But we no longer it looks to me like the andrew bolts of the world have no no longer arguing that the average people have no culture. It's sounds a little bit today. Like signing somebody presenting something. That's wrong is providing a service because it's opening up the debate and we now have a debate that we didn't have before and to me. That's like we should be grateful for anti vaccine because we're having a debate about whether vaccines are good. Not to me to me..

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

05:49 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"Doesn't necessarily follow so anyway. Have a really and see if it changes your mind. Object sort of skim through what. It's kind of sign but and yeah it's so why pulled away banging on about it because to me. It was an obvious distortion of the facts. And to me there was i. I consider myself on the left. Obviously and this is one of those issues where people on the left feel own tribe. I must be dark emu supporter. No no you can actually look at topics and pick and choose and make your own mind up and even on the podcast of the interview of the personal persons to people. Isn't it work together to write that book. Yes yeah mostly one but yes. Yeah and they were saying like when document book. They started talking about the debate and they just said that there wasn't one actually wasn't a debate. Bruce pascoe released. His book won an award da. So it's not just a case of we weren't actually presented with anything contrary and everything. It's just a case of being left. Who weren't actually presented really with anything contrary to what it was then. I know that we might have been polly sensitive to in. But like i was saying to you before the podcast like since that book's been released has been up a lot of noise. It's been out of for media. Watched a whole range of things discussing it so Yeah i have to concede on this Yes in media awards be persuaded. Which is i think a good thing. So saudis interesting and certainly. It's a very readable criticism. But it's not just a criticism of doc amy eight. It pints in a really attractive picture. Indigenous peoples locked stalls water. They were that why and how it should be celebrated not this fight celebration of this foul of this might up agricultural society that he was trying to really shoehorn indigenous culture into a western idea. Quite insulting really. If you're pro indigenous people you.

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

03:57 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"They call online. People didn't respond that way. Respect like fine. This is judy of fun. They didn't serve the injunction or still good. They might have been keeping the victory but the address it didn't get the injunction that's but it was on a technicality because he was just waiting to see whether the minister was more like Let me see How how far are against the applicants have not satisfied the court that it is probable that the minister will break the judy of k. In making a decision that not satisfied. Cool that i will have the opportunity to apply for injunctive relief. Like i think what he's getting his if she decides to allow the mine. Come and see me okay. So it's not good for the morning old. Climbing is victory in much the same way. The christian puerta was climbing. That's sort of. I can't slow. The next question is where the common citizens have a duty of care to him fact their fellow citizens well. There was that case of the guard with from new zealand. Who was a professional dancer. And he he had eids and he had unprotected sex with people and he was well there was actually a crime of he was done for a crossbody infective. Yes and he could clearly had been done for a form of negative negligence For for having unprotected sex when he knew he had eids so because they caused real harm. Yeah those people. Yeah so if you knew you had covid nineteen up from melbourne. You went into a nursing hyme and purposefully sneezed alive. The kitchen utensils just brought to a meal. You put could be an action against stop. Go out into the woods and already if you drive up. Three country new south lyon with active covid symptoms. That's where it gets more difficult them. Yes but yes okay. Tom still good in not endangered. The shark tank at all show docking. We've talked d'aquin in the past and this is where we lose a few of the lift friends here and this is one where i'm actually on your side on this. One pulled to a large extent. Saying doc emu of coups by bruce pascoe basically painting a picture of indigenous brothers being much more of an agricultural society than anyone else has ever climbed. Before and doc emu was a very very popular book and in a children's book which is seemingly in a curriculum in some schools. I think i..

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

08:17 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"All right talking to bruce pascoe the arizona daily star about what happened to shawn miller. Today was fired at arizona after a long run with the cats in tucson and frankly Like i said by the way they just marash just knocked out to meet johnson. That's it round to boom. Knocked him out got on top of him and just clubbed him to death. He's done so there. You go to champ wins. I'm stunned mafia. A horrible disqualification and then the main event was a disaster as well. Thank god turner channel down with it. Anyway bruce sorry about so. Here's the deal. I'm watching these fights. I got all this stuff going on while. We're doing the show. As i said before to you all these names the litany of names. Tommy lloyd kazak damon stoudamire miles simon et cetera et cetera. I don't believe to be honest with you eric. Musselman's going to get the job at arizona. He's got a great job at arkansas. I do not believe he's leading that quick to go there. It's not steve. Alford leaving new mexico. I don't believe frankly mark pope's getting that job either To be honest with you they remind me of a little bit of. I know sean millerton planners well i guess he did like what he transferred there or something like that when he was a kid. I can't remember. All i know is north carolina and they stay in the family. You know miller. Didn't he actually played here for pit arizona zone in a an a holiday tournament back in the early nineties and told us the story about how he'd just thought it was so cool he saw zona players leaving the game on their skateboards and it was seventy five and sunny and he was like damn. This is a great place. So that's why. I think that maybe had a little bit to do with why he took the job in the first place but But yet to speak to what you said actually just kinda wrote about some of the speculation some of those candidates in both pope and muscleman if you go back two years if they had a change with miller and twenty nineteen you know both of those guys were at mid major jobs. Doing really well. And we're we're gonna go. You knew they were gonna go to their next job and you know Muslim was at nevada and pope was that Utah valley and and both those guys got good jobs. And you're right. They appear pretty locked up right now. Pope just signed a deal through twenty six twenty seven then because as privacy. Don't we don't know the terms but you know those guys are pretty locked in. And i don't think that arizona has a lot more money if any to pay than what they're paying miller which was about two and a half million so you know and if you're gonna you know if you're gonna try and get an established accessible head coach. That's pretty tough to do. You might need three or four at least per year. The way things are going. Yeah well so let's then narrow it down do you believe that Did you write about tommy. Lloyd and start a and simon and simon would both take that job this minute. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean i think right tommy lloyd. The a question mark as to whether he would want it. And i mean there's some questions about whether you'd hire guy without being head coach a program like this but on the other hand you know there's there he's pretty he's pretty well regarded and he's been there for twenty years. And he's you know his recruiting of internationals tough to beat and this and that so it's it may be a question of him whether he'd wanna do that. He's already turned down. A number of turned away from. I should say a number of in a pretty good job from from what From what i've heard and then You're right stoudamire and You know assignment. I think you know. Even just passenger maybe. There's you know some buzz about him. He's a little guy who's you know. Been the head coach now at memphis and georgia tech and he has a great job there. you know and not a lot of press release buddies. He sees standards You know so he might be okay there but the you know who knows. Maybe he'd want to come back here. i don. I don't know about that but stoudamire you're right would be interesting. And you know he. He's probably the one guy who has the best combination of you know sort of history with this program as a player. He was an all american here. They went to the ninety four five four him and then he went on and You know have. The cree had the nba was nba rookie of the year And then and you. Europeans record isn't great but he took that program over. When they were you know having unsuitably sanctions and they you know. They're they have high academic standards. It's hard to get guys in there and they have to play with gonzaga and early. You know you're an and saint. Mary's and byu so at the best you're gonna be fourth in fact. He was coaching the year last year when they were for. So so. if you've kinda put it in perspective of what. He's up against their You know he's done pretty well and he's you know he's well liked here. The personable guy you know he. He's got nba experience. The cell and so you know he. He would seem to have a lot of qualifications as well. Yeah it sounds like everything you're saying it just leads me right to him that he's the guy that's the guy they're gonna hire. You can just feel it. can't you. well it seems like i mean. Certainly if you're going to go the direction of wanting somebody who has some tie your program. I would think so for sure. I mean i've heard a lot of tommy lloyd. The guy but it might be that. I don't again. I don't know if he wants it. And you know there's also we know in these kind of searches. Sometimes they're smokescreens out there. You don't really know who and everybody here thought football. They were gonna hire san jose state coach and and then they ended up hiring. A you know. An assistant from the patriots said martin jet fish so you know that sort of seemed to come out of nowhere so you know i guess you never know there could always be somebody lurking that. We don't know the one thing that i do think is you would think at this point. They're going to decide to make this decision to get rid of shawn miller this late that they must have somebody lined up at least a couple of people that they know will take it so i would imagine it'll be a short search because it may already be done behind the scenes. Let me ask you bruce Do you think that Arizona state and i'm not. I'm not suggesting anything with bobby. Hurley golan dares. On what. I'm asking you is do you think that he's like being well received in tempe or do you think his see this hot. Oh the hurley's You know i y- his. He was he. He's built that program up. I think he has a fair amount of equity this. They had a really disappointing finish this year. And but you know. I think also helps him that. It's sort of an asterisk year with with cova. Everybody knows that so you know there was a weird combination yet. Some really good talent as kind of a weird chemistry mix that just of appear to blow up on them and so and they had. They had a couple of kobe pauses. That didn't help things either. So you know i. I don't think he's on a on a hot seat there but certainly you know You know maybe you know down the road a little bit. If things don't don't turn around. But i think overall he's been pretty well received there. What did you think of Just your reaction to how badly archie failed at indiana. I mean honestly. I went to indiana and i have to say when when they hired him. I thought it was a good higher. Because he had done such a hell of a job at dayton in my opinion at amid right an amid major and he had been a forced there. But i honestly i have to say bruce. I think he may have been the worst basketball coach. I've ever seen at indiana. And i'm fifty six years old and i was i worked for bob knight so trust me when i tell you i've seen them all. He may have been the worst coach. I've ever seen in bloomington yet. You're closer way closer. Situation that i am. I just know. I know archie was here. Actually as san's though shit head coach the first couple years. I got to know him a little bit He seemed at both of them are pretty burs school x. Knows guys you know. Dad was a legend out. There in highschool western pennsylvania The thing about arts that always struck me those. He super super serious almost like all work. No play kinda guy and and..

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD

NewsRadio WIOD

02:55 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD

"And this one. This one is great guy named Bruce Pascoe. Uh, he's a little younger than us couple years and he stumbled upon his child could collection off hot wheels. His mom didn't throw him away like ours did 20 years ago. And since then He has amassed some of the most desirable hot wheels the company ever made. He has a pink beach bomb. VW bus One of five It's estimated. Had $150,000.0 my God for how Leo's Wow. Now that is not the priciest version of that bus. There are 23 window variants. You know the 23 window. VW bus is Is highly sought after and in the real world, too. But It's one of the rarest Rarest hot wheels. There is the 23 window variant and how we'll just $190,000. 100, almost $200,000. Oh, man. To go return on investment. Yes, they what with a 50 cents back then. Maybe. What a five bucks Now I don't I don't even know Um, I think I'm gonna start playing out with his car's right said I'd like to start buying them. I mean, yeah. How do you know what the next big thing is going to be All man? Why didn't I think of that? Let's see what's the most expensive How well car we could find on eBay right now. Well, that that's the they say that that's number one. Well, that's the priciest version of that vehicle. I don't know what the highest priced period is. Well, you know, there's got to be a serial number 000000001. Somewhere that you know, worth millions. But I don't know. I'm not. You know all that familiar with with that world. You know. So remember when Aston Martin, uh Built that first residential tower in Miami. And it was everybody thought. You know how cool it was. Well, now they're building. They're building one in New York 66 stories bigger than the one in Miami. And Was set in motion back in 2016. And there, you know, Ferrari did this portion to this and said to open In 2022 in Miami. Right along..

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Dans La T?te D'un Coureur

Dans La T?te D'un Coureur

04:47 min | 1 year ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Dans La T?te D'un Coureur

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Veterinary Podcast by the VetGurus

Veterinary Podcast by the VetGurus

06:25 min | 2 years ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on Veterinary Podcast by the VetGurus

"Spectrum but I found it I'm A bloody excellent and and it didn't appeal to me as much as I thought it might because when I first Considered reading it am. I was You know it's a very how well referenced book. There's a lodge number of references to ensure that the validity of the statements that might in the Boca a justifiable And I love that. You know evidence-based brushing I love science communication Being able to take data that Tom that might be a difficult to understand or difficult to interpret and making it a viable to a water audience. I'm end I'm this Autism you caught me on the Doc EMU The author Surprise me by making it. I'm very readable Bruce Pascoe Made it very very rateable and Tom and yeah I was was You know stuck to turn Learning about the things that are indigenous people did that when not hunter gatherer in nature that involved wide wide Ikea Agriculture? Maybe not in the foam that we as Europeans now. But Tom still in a valuable form nonetheless and dumb and I do think he's basic tenant that looking back in an understanding and learning and respecting that changes the way we view our country and my in some specific instances provide us with some ways to deal with some parts of the country in a better way will make sure that the linked to that bookmark and I will put it in the show night so everybody who is interested King. Click to that and perhaps Right it Deny whether it's available would auto just here in Australia. Not survivable worldwide definitely Excellent book all send you the link and are right at nine out of Ten Stars. Well not at a ten view that some sectional is nuts. I must admit I think of I'm just looking. I ever. I have five books at little side. Taibu And I'll probably read pots of all five at the marks on pep some multitasking. When I shouldn't be so once I finish one more of is in one of them. Has One new recommended box? Not GonNa talk about that. Nathan mentioned who it is that Tomlin's finish that one. Pat Saul Review it. You put podcast. Do you find it hard to breed. I struggle with them. A love rating But are really struggle with it as a veterinarian because I always feel like these that case on need to double check. That article Brandon wrote about that particular surgery topic on to refresh my memory about that. Always feel as a veterinarian. The amount of knowledge is available to me makes me and the amount of knowledge I need. Mike's makes me feel guilty. When Tom Often read things that are you know maybe for another purpose. I think what I try to do. Mike. I'm not that an my help or not. I'm probably to help. You is a try to force myself to have periods where I'll sit down and say okay to not. I'm going to read a bit of pipe and I'll sit down in my chair. Where the books next to it and try and rate a little bit and have that as a a not. When I read books or rate Lucia raid something maybe even call make And not have the telly on and not have The IPAD next to me and and have the fine of rage. I that see anyway. I tend to say forced or `isolation in the in the in the little corner where I ride a boat marks. I am and every time I might do that and I must admit I'm not doing it as regularly as I should I'm glad I did it because I think it sort of them. And get to you at writing a bit of literature or something a bit of a novel or whatever even if it's a technical journey journal it's getting sitting down and writing something rather than looking at the idiot box side and thoughts. I agree with you entirely and I think it is a bit of a are reckon. It is a bit of a veterinary Vitmain re specific problem on obstacle to a few that to struggle with this and most of us as will at as you And so we ought genuinely struggle with it. But I'll try and put your principles into place on and say I can't Get through a few more known veterinary a books to read. Excellent well with that. I think we have nighttime life to go. Let's jump into a couple of Well four new stories mark and I think you wanted to grab the first one and I think you might have a bit of a story about this. One was something about Fishy fishy something in the Irish in. Well not quite fish but You're gonNA talk about while Siam and I will Crunchies probably be insistently talking wiles for the next few months. This story is Of what the no way? We've gotten it from Brennan But I will look that up while you're chat. It's research from the National Institute of Standards and Technology and a strategy Griffith University Which looked at say wiles head? We know that Pregnant why do we need tonight? They pregnant knowing that wiles of pregnant. I'm helps us to form a better opinion of how the population is going. Because obviously you know us as Trans we know bet lift shifts and wrought shifts and if we can get an idea of pregnancy rights that can give us a good idea about tom about how these populations at changing and and even though humpback whales have made a pretty.

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

14:10 min | 2 years ago

"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"About stem. That's the thing signs with jobs are going to be in the future. I think things like design It's actually skills or someone we've talked about that course in Western civilization. That was controversial. Now I came across the syllabus but slashed not enough. I didn't think to bring it to them. Sorry I'll bring it next week. Rainsy Saint. Let's talk about it because I think it's highly relevant. Have you seen the syllabus Ni- but the problem with the rangy Santa I know the problem but listen. I think it's a course with teaching. Frankly it's having in the syllabus. The problem with the Ramsey Center is they want to control the coolest and side of the University here the teaches. Here's the course will control it and you just put you'll university stamp at the end of it too but that's that's not to say that what will be taught. We'll be suspect or or bad in any way. Maybe they just wanted to hire the people they thought were the best experts in each particular subject. Say Your time with that came with it. Wow happy for a universe you DECI. There's the building do you lock. We'll give you a rose named the part of the reason is because I've seen the rot which that has set in in the humanities university and they've been taken over by left-wing social justice warriors and I think it's about time. The universities had a bit more of a swing towards neutrality. The Ramsey Santa could conduct that course us the week where at the Ramsey Santa Education Center book guy. But what do they want they want to have the the impetus city whatever wacked on it. Well if you want that then you have to cede control to the Sydney University. Not What would would happen to the coast if they C- control to Sydney University if they don't value the Sydney University's involvement and they shouldn't be there if they like contrast you guys still negotiating with some clearly. Some universities are willing to take their money just quickly new topic Gulf Coast Young L. N. P. leader suspended so there was a video of these guys who are members of the L.. A who are at school. He's interviewing students in apply a clip from that. Say I have listened to this one. You you personally fed up with having all these sports stars standout stages and not singing the national anthem. They're putting their Australian jumper on. They're going to sing. The we've got to stop celebrating culture that couldn't even invent the body wheel for God's sake and say the interviewer baaqline backline McCain. He's chairman of the Gulf coast young nibbles was smiling as he's Mike and and his mighty. It was signed. That is some sort of young alien P volunteer of some sort and the guy who took the footage. They've all been suspended from your name. Pay Pending President's committee decision as to what to do with them and this is the Party of free speech man in do. What do you think of that? I think they should be able to say whatever the fuck they want. Frankly stupid enough to sign it citing insensitive wine and insensitive. Perhaps a little insensitive. I think would be a little insensitive but basically these guys were saying. They've had a gut full of being told how to respond to in a having our indigenous culture forced upon them at every single in public event. And they're saying look. Okay what's so great about it and it's about time somebody else. It wasn't a racist comment. I don't think accelerate they didn't say anything about people. They said culture recycling and so. Why shouldn't they make a comment about a culture? Yeah so it's just an ideology. What are basically commenting on it and well people might decide? Will you no longer a suitable later leader for us at the next opportunity. We're going to fight for somebody else. Want to actually ban them from the will to suspend them more discipline them. Ed Frankly Clinton was a little bit half hearted about what was going to happen to them. She didn't come out and say. Oh that's disgraceful. We've got to get rid of these people people you know because in her heart of hearts I think she agreed with them. Well there's also people that AIDS is who agree with that too I I found myself sympathizing with them. I have to say because I thought for goodness sake. It's about time and we've criticized indigenous culture on this program and and not criticizing the people we say no let's embrace the people but discard some of the defy. What's what's the word? I'm looking for the parts of the culture that are no longer relevant in the twenty first century. And I think that's what these guys were getting. There were saying we told old. We have to respect the Stone Age culture. That didn't invent the wheel. All they had was sticks that they threw it there. They Guy Mammals and seriously technologically. It was a Stein's culture. They might have been fun people and they are fine people. Why not just as fine as us? We embrace the people we reject the culture. It's like every ancestors were the same man. Sisters were were hunter gatherers and we we we discarded the culture as we develop technologically. It's not like we're we're shaming our ancestors by doing that. Can I tell you on halfway halfway. Through docking Yes and how is it going. I'm plenty of very interesting. Okay docking I have no idea why. So this is a book by Bruce Pascoe where he talks about indigenous civilization and he calls it civilization again again civilization. Well well the mine thing on finding is probably is in terms of their belief fish like some of the system. The head in terms of fishing great was quite ingenious winter hunting and gathering in day. It's not a civilization doesn't make it a civil and in terms of some of the huts and buildings kind of teepee log structures. Were Cli- sort. Sort of you. That sort of stuff were they widespread. I've I'm under the impression that if if they existed there were fairly rare but in terms of agriculture which is the one that really interested me and his ability to prove that I conducted some sort of agriculture. Is it's not convincing. And it's quite a while because as on rating if there's a foot night I'm then having to Vala the foot night and these are often the the diaries of explorers all what not and it's interesting a lot of it's online that you can just go in and give the diary of Mitchell and and go to the pied and stuff okay. So I'm finding that quite interesting. Actually looking at the at some stage probably in the new year visited. Yes yes so he's so far. I'm halfway through it. I'd say he's Irish decided and in terms of the agriculture and and he's also queering about. He's sort of suggesting that the main kind inhabited Australia. Yeah up to one hundred and twenty thousand years ago which is why beyond the DNA evidence sort of out of Africa theories that I've heard him so that yeah and he's quite most people sixty thousand saying he's feeling I get one of the reasons he's latched onto this audio of demonstrating that they had. Agriculture allegedly is that. He thinks that he thinks that gives them greater legitimacy as a culture in terms it was a greater equity as a culture and I get that well part of it he sang is that there was this theory out of England which was this in order to Cape Land. You know they would have lain grants. You had to improve the lane put structures on women. Greg crops do stuff at the lane in order to hold it. And and Hayes signed that one of the reasons why early settlers were What do the lane is was because there was not prove improvement of the land and he's Argument is will its falsity. It was. It was a false picture painted because it made it easier to say we're taking the slain because you're not using it so it was a deliberate cover up in a because it might be easier to tight land because under English law if you hadn't hadn't improved it then you had less inclined to it so legal. That's what he says is a motivation law. What he says it was a misrepresentation misrepresentation on its side quite interesting and I read to me? Dan always different rabbit halls. And I'll talk about it. In the in one of them was this lady who lived with indigenous tribes for bet forty years in Western Australia and I were really kind of desert remote culture and terrible things happening in this daisy. Yes yes did you read that. I've just read snippets. Yeah so that's in fact. I was going to order the book that was quite shocking but then I read this other one. There was French guy. who was I Cabin homeboy on a ship that got shipwrecked in New York and he ended up living with an indigenous community for seven years because tightening. Yeah I by the story. That pints is entirely different to the on the DNC bites obviously plentiful food. Keep your only Elliott just fishes almost jumping out of the race bike at a everywhere. Exactly so Say Big variation. There was convicted. Victoria wasn't the ugly will impact was Ni- buckling got anyway but well. He was in Victoria. He was an escaped convict. And he lived with the convicts for something like twenty indigenous in think. Not with convicts with the indigenous. Oh yes apparently he did. I thought because when we saw you've got accolades nineteenth. I know I'm not sure I why we say that. No but apparently he did he. He ran away from the prison. All the gods whoever he was with and he came across some indigenous people and I accepted him and he lived with him for quite a number of years and so he also lighter turn. Some point recorded his experiences in his impressions of the culture. Ryan okay. Well it's been a long one it because before we go to get a shot at someone who lives in wiles occurs Abigail. She's a first year pollute international politics student at the University of every list with ever risked worth probably and she has made it into and she has listened to us so much we are near in her top five on spotify. Absolutely thank you very much. Also thank you to a new patron wine who made a contribution via pipette. Thank you wine Christmas present requests from the listeners. So when you meeting with relatives or other people either the break in stock that news as in politics sex and religion. Whatever at some point could you please side? You know what I'm listening to this podcast. The fist in the velvet. Have you ever heard of it. And if they haven't then I'll tell we just say you really should listen to them. It's it's quite good innate to grab the person's fine fine the PODCAST APP and search for subscribe inside of them. There it is now. He's my favorite episode. Because at the point that you do it maybe the episode we just done. Wasn't that good. So just scroll through and say Look Episode Number Two hundred and twenty seven or whatever. That was a good one. I recommend you look at it so so if you are a fan of the podcast that I'd like you to give us for. Christmas is to introduce at least one person to the podcast. Gratifying Mike. Mike like their APP. Subscribe and Mike is very very good seduced absolutely whole bunch of new Russian subscribers. uh-huh by friends about this so I I'm expecting some comments a little bit tacky shoop to the Germany as maybe you can stop I'll say what I speak to your polish-speaking frame. I will see her. Probably tomorrow. 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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

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"bruce pascoe" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"Suburban Eastern Australia an environment that has the time evolved some extraordinarily early unique groups of Hamas happiness. But today we observe are small trial akin to a group of mic that gathered together together a top a small mound to watch question and discuss the current events of their city their country and their world at Blanche. Let's listen keenly and observe this group fondly known hours the Iron Fist and the velvet glove knees. He's like you said David where up to two hundred. And Twenty nine the fizz Velvet Glove podcast normally. There's three of US sitting around the table talking about the week's events but Scott has something on. He's quite secretive about what it was. So we'll guess about what happens. What's happened with Scott? But it's just you and me toward men. Welcome LCM twelve main. Thank you trevor. Glad to be here as always. It's good to have you as well. So what are we gonNA talk about this week O.. Oh Jeez show topics this week. I we. Well we're a little bit short like there's been some newsy things but nothing think particularly matey like obviously allows bobby's head up again and and George Pell and but really these things. There wasn't a lot decide that saying. I thought that we might revisit. A little bit of their indigenous episode who and discuss a few indigenous items that we didn't get to backing episode two hundred thirteen deep breath. Good Air Loins in and we'll tackle that one. Okay yeah I I couldn't think of a better name to have with me. It's sort of brings to mind some of the cliches about going into outer space. You know going with you have a full or something like that. Yeah so Say we're going to talk about indigence matters and rice and sort of extrapolate a few things from episode two hundred. Think so if you're listening to us for the first time or only recently started watching Al Fayed Ah Listening to FAA podcast. It's stop right now. And get backed up. So two hundred sitting over his Egmont Sti- talking about this and why they signed that why I told him about this in a lot of it must have been cavity. Nips two hundred thirteen that. WE'RE NOT GONNA go into you. Good idea if you have already got to that episode. I consider that episode to be one of our finest do in the actual statistics. It's performed one of the worst time you had to be at three hundred and forty five downloads and mice in Europe. Toby at four hundred saying probably because it was a racist. Yeah probably yeah. But then I've had some good feedback. We'd alike where people have said look. I didn't agree with everything you said but it was thought provoking and made me think about some things and that's gold to us do. Yeah and that's what we're about. We're about people people thinking about stuff and discussing it without you know fruit too rigid preconceptions which is or at least being able to shake the free conceptions around a little bit and Reexamine them although we were accused of holding preconceived ideas. We all have them say this subject to confirmation bias to indeed and it's not easy to get alternative voices to come on I. It's taunt factor. Actually Mike reaching out to people and getting them on is difficult. If you're if you tend to disagree with what we say and you live in the western suburbs of Brisbane and you want to join us on Tuesday nights. You're welcome to reach out to us. And we're more than happy to have another voice to provide a contrary point of view. It's not easy and it's not really putting people in the sky it's hard you'd sort of took over the top of each other. It's it's hard to sort of have the same vaud so we could have. Somebody could come into the studio so if he think he might disagree with us. More than most any live in the western suburbs of Brisbane in your valuable reach out to us We should try and sort of play. Devil's advocate a bit more than what we do. But it's not easy for example on this episode that we're GONNA be doing business matters it. It just wouldn't make sense for well what we're going to be doing is quoting stuff from people who disagree with US and providing a response response so there's the alternative you get the actual voice of that best. But you'll get their idea right well. Who knows where we'll end up? What rabbit holes? We'll we'll we'll give it a guy before we do. This is sort of a warm up just a loose nail limbs a little bit twelve made in the in the news this past week like we had will I am who was on a Qantas plein and he felt he was huddle dunboyne Qantas host easy and he then accused her of racism pretty readily accused of racism. I mean that seemed to be one of his first responses is to an altercation he had with her. He's some black American rapper of some sort. On the black eyed appeased. I think is the group. Isn't it rice with which is a fairly well established and popular. Yeah so on one side of the story is the hosting Qantas sign that she was destroying to get his attention and he had noise canceling earphones on. which didn't help? And he didn't like the it was handled inclined was a rice act by climbed she was very aggressive in that she only directed her aggression at people of Color. Put it So one of the things to come out of. That was the Veronica's couple of twins who you're also into China's died had an altercation on Qantas a couple of weeks ago and so as soon as I hit about the wheel I am thing they came out and said we support. You Will Ali'i I'm so the twin sisters climbed the flight attendant had clashed with lie. In is the sign woman who they previously clashed with interest to the Quanta said definitely the same one so an I demanded it will be retracted and the Veronica's said that he shouldn't retract. That's rely envoy shooting. We went there but we support him actually posted on twitter. I believe a photograph of the Qantas and the police officer who was sent to talk to him when it when the plane landed. It's pretty provocative. Isn't it posting on social media which goes potentially rod around the globe. A photograph of somebody who. He had a disagreement with doing her job. Yeah it is my thoughts on this hour. Have you seen the Veronica's no I've I've often cross my mind. I should have a listen to the music because I really have vertical idea while it's line so they look relatively what to me very white. I would have thought and I looked up and I've got ital- on the father's side is Italian Sahelian and what mother is not really what and of course they looked committee anyway but but really the fact that the same high sti praise according to the Veronica was rude and nasty to them and treated them poorly. I should have been proof that the host is not racist because Equal opportunity person in that he's attacked according. According to the Veronica's story line white people as well as black people. Really the Veronica's shoot of coming out and said well let's the same high. St That was mean to us and so it couldn't have been racism because look at us. That's right now that look in the slightest bit non-european to me say ninety ninety. Pick that up. But that's what struck name was. Well she she couldn't be racist. Even story was true. Because you're not obviously black so it's just annoying that people play the race card so readily isn't it Rather than trying to figure out. Well what's your problem. You know what what have I done. Wrong now now it's dried up. The woman was racist yeah ties we said last week about woke nece. It's very easy to just come out and say racist throwing the left and everybody runs for cover. Don't they. I mean even some people were saying. We'll go on Qantas for standing up for the staff because it seems like everybody everybody just runs for cover including big corporations quite often. These Zinser accused of racism So anyway I'm not that way support racism. But it's just this whole this whole thing around. Racism like an accusation is as good as proof. Isn't it these days All the more reason why T- instead of using it liberally to an e went really really. Sure somebody's link license. Yeah anyway that was that story and I just spend Veronica's angle to it to be the interesting one from so. We're GONNA talk a little bit about Marcia Langton in a moment this this is a sort of a warm up on Maciel lengthened for listeners. Who aren't aware of Marty liked who? She's she's well-credentialled. Aboriginal home indigenous spokeswoman various issues and back in two thousand and twelve in her fourth boy lecture and she attacked Professor Flannery a distinguished scientist explorer a conservationist but his comments in East quarterly aside. Because he had said even underlie the governments with strong green bent national parks and otherwise Saif and he talked about how the Bligh government was D- exhibiting areas taking them out of the national park system and returning them back to traditional aboriginal and Marchisio wasn't happy because it was sort of an allegation that the indigenous people couldn't look after the land properly and he was saying I don't know when you gazetted as a National Park you've got even better protections so interesting yes and funding to take care of yes so she accused team of succumbing to the environmental campaign. Audiology that Australia's first people's are the enemies of night show. Well he said we've got me wrong. Mustn't be design. We've got a better chance of protecting these things as bad of a national pan. She might have objected. Because if it's gazetted National Park I don't really know but I'm just guessing maybe the rights of local indigenous people and not as great as they would be if it was handed back. I I think that was what she was. She wanted and Santa bound control of the land by digits people rather than state government. Yeah so anyway. I now the sort of racism. Racism style allegation mic drawer on a guy like that is God so but just getting back to indigenous care management of the land and the bushfires with head race in line. Like people reminding with good reason in the fall that we're having into the been pretty shocking. It was pretty standard practice for indigenous brothers and sisters at. It's just extremely well. No that that's what they deal with and I'm not criticizing knows perfectly legitimate thing to do for one hundred and but when you talk about the indigenous peoples traditional sort of custodianship of lane you do have to take into account a couple of things. One is the prior to their arrival. Onto this landmass there was a lot of lodge fairy animals. The disappeared at about the timeline digits. People appear because I'd never time to adapt so obviously the mall and that's pretty much look at some of them and the rest of them didn't adapt well to all lose their then the changing sort of education because because the indigenous people were Creating has everywhere and that was changing the vegetation in creating grass lanes that suited the smaller animals the kangaroos rather than the large animals. Where the beginning go? When there's a fire rising all around them in day can get barbecued indeed and and really eucalyptus were quite a small sort of part of ar vegetation saying upon their arrival and a short in historical historical terms a short time later eclipse everywhere fire resistant and ended well in fire conditions? So we've mentioned it before but sort out of the lead-up intertwined with a bunch of other. Things seems to be this assumption that indigenous people can do no environmental wrong and the similar thing happened in New Zealand of with our brothers and sisters across the wrong to marry extent. Well from what. I've read under the distinct impression that they're hunting of that. Very large bird rallied to its extinction. Right ethically reasonable wolfing today for hunter gatherers but this guy ran afterwards. So what magnificent manages the way the other thing is we're GonNa Talk About Canyon and in talking breeze Pasqua paints a picture of cultivated fields stretching as far as the eye can say mind boggling stuff really considering what we presumed to know about how the lifestyle and the economy of our indigenous brothers sisters so if true you that it again paints a picture of of quite substantial alteration of the Lance Guide that ninety was not for the better if if true so true. Yeah Yeah we'll get to that I he's done very well out of that. Book has new Bruce Pascoe. I mean I'm not suggesting US become wealthy. But it certainly only received a lot of positive coverage raw in the meteorite high in the chat room John Dismissing. He's finished driving these. Here's John Towards the end of the podcast. If you're able to hang in there we might get you discard being and tell us a story so just let me know. Johnny is going to work because John got involved with Labor Party not with religious nation. actum trying to pass a motion through his local brain. So hold onto. That would be good John. If you're able to get onto sky a little bit lighter we'll definitely definitely drawn hook you up right so back to L. Indigenous episode number two hundred and thirteen and as I mentioned please. If you have not listened to it listen to before listening to the rest of this on. Now we've got a listener Brahmin. He's terrific doc because Brahman disagrees with us on stuff and actually says why specifically she disagrees and gives Cajun reasons and we're happy with that and we asked for feedback and and she gives it to us so so at the time Bronwyn was the only person who had any decided that nobody else it has popped up and say anything specific about its Brahmins..

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